Scorching Suns Burned the Hornets 111-102, My Epiphany on JLin

I was afraid this scenario would happen. After losing 9 straight games and embarrassingly only scored 22 pts in the 1st half of the last loss against the Lakers, the Suns came out hot shooting (unbelievably hot 57.6% 3pt shooting, 19-33) determined to win. I was watching the game in person behind the basketball rim so I couldn’t see all floor enough to make good analysis of plays but I was able to observe the change of momentums in the building. Here is a high-level summary of the game: 1st HALF

  • Jeremy had a quick start to score 13pts in the 1st quarter as he was able to drive to the rim at will
  • As Kemba rested at the bench with 3:21 left, JLin seemed to be in command having the ball in his hands as he scored 6pts
  • But the Suns has been hot from 3-point land. At half-time, the Suns shot an unbelievable 62% 3FG. The Hornets were not doing too bad with 42% but this was why the Suns led 8pts at 60-52.
  • The Hornets big men just couldn’t finish in the paint as Hawes missed easy layup (0-5 shooting, 0 pts) and Frank just couldn’t seem to finish (1-8, 3pts). The unreliable big men of Hornets have become a glaring weakness for this team
  • The bench performance was horrible

2nd HALF

  • The Hornets fought an uphill battle trying to chip in the lead to 5 pts (71-76) with 4:37 left in the 3rd quarter when JLin rested. JLin uncharacteristically missed 2 FTs but made a tough shot afterwards. He was playing OK with an assist but a TO. I thought Coach Clifford wanted to give more rest to JLin at this point.
  • The Hornets made a run to take over the lead with 80-78 with 1:34 left but the momentum shifted when Frank made a bad TurnOver losing the ball while doing a spin-move to dribble. It was really a bad unforced error. The Suns regained the momentum with 2 threes to retake the lead 86-85. It took the air of the Hornets as they thought they had taken the lead.
  • In the 4th quarter, the Suns made a quick 14-8 run with hot 3pt shooting ( 4  3pt shots) to extend the lead to 102-93. Frank missed 2 shots, JLin had 2 TOs, Hairston missed a 3 in this stretch. I couldn’t see the offense on the opposite half-court so I’m not sure what happened there
  • Zeller and Marvin Williams came in for JLin and Frank with 7:24 left.
  • Then each team scored 9-9 after the Suns timeout at 102-93 to finish the game at 111-102. The Hornets just couldn’t mount enough offense or defense to stop the Suns from scoring or making 3s. The offense looked disorganized with only Kemba dribble-drive, Marvin Williams post-up or Troy Daniels 3pt shots. It’s very hard to get wide-open shots.

Conclusion

  • I believe Coach Clifford went with the lineup that he thought gave the best momentum to try to catch up for the Suns. With ineffective big men in Frank and Hawes, it’s hard to finish strong inside. This is when Al Jefferson’s presence is being missed so much. I believe the Hornets would win this game with a healthy Al Jefferson inside.
  • It’s hard to beat a team when they shot 57.6% or 19-33 from 3pt-land. And the Hornets just couldn’t bother a determined Suns team tonight.
  • JLin looked excellent in the 1st quarter with the ball in his hands but I don’t know what happened in the 2nd half when he didn’t have the ball in his hands. Some TOs, uncharacteristic 2 missed FTs. I came away with a realization that Jeremy Lin needs to find his rhythm by having the ball in his hands. Yes, he can be a good off-the-ball shooting guard but that’s not his strength and it does affect his shooting rhythm and even organizing offense on some nights.
  • I will say this. I have an epiphany after watching this game: Jeremy Lin needs to be the main ball-handler in his next team at all cost. Otherwise, he looks very ordinary when his shooting doesn’t fall. JLin is a rhythm player and his shooting and offensive efficiency is very much affected by him dribbling the ball and being involved in the offense. That’s who he is and there’s nothing wrong with that. Linsanity happened that way with the ball in his hands. Who cares if he can’t be great by not handling the ball like Steve Nash did in the Lakers with Kobe as the main ball-handler? Players thrive because of their strength in the NBA. And there’s nothing wrong with leveraging one player’s strength when choosing a team or a coach.

I will post more details on the Q & A session tomorrow. Perhaps add videos and pictures in the next 1-2 days as they take time to process.

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  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Glad to be first on this report:-) Guess everyone is zzzzzzzzzzz in US:-)

  • sws94

    Thank you, psalm234.

  • Let me emphasize my #1 conclusion from watching this game

    I will say this. I have an EPIPHANY after watching this game: Jeremy Lin needs to be the main ball-handler in his next team at all cost.Otherwise, he looks very ordinary when his shooting doesn’t fall. JLin is a rhythm player and his shooting and offensive efficiency is very much affected by him dribbling the ball and being involved in the offense. That’s who he is and there’s nothing wrong with that. Linsanity happened that way with the ball in his hands. Who cares if he can’t be great by not handling the ball like Steve Nash did in the Lakers with Kobe as the main ball-handler? Players thrive because of their strength in the NBA. And there’s nothing wrong with leveraging one player’s strength when choosing a team or a coach.

    I will post more details on the Q & A session tomorrow. Perhaps add videos and pictures in the next 1-2 days as they take time to process.

  • Spot

    Well said!

  • blubell

    Thank you so much psalm! You must be tired. Get your well deserved sleep because we’ll be pressuring you to produce vids and pics tomorrow 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes you said it better than me. That’s what I tried to say over last thread with some kept on saying JLin wasn’t good in ballhandling. Anyday I’d rather watch JLin’s ball than Kemba ball.

  • I wished I could report that JLin had 25+pts to lead the Hornets to win having the ball in his hands after scoring 13pts in the 1st quarter *sigh*

    But it’s not meant to be in this game with such underperforming big men for a few games already.

    But I’m glad to learn that JLin can be Linsanity when he holds the ball in his hands. It was a glimpse of brilliance but I have no doubt Lin needs to be the PG/main ball-handler to reach the potential of his NBA career.

  • Brent Yen

    Arrrrrrrrrr…………..

  • Brent Yen

    Nice!

  • blubell

    Be nice, Brent 😛

  • yeah, I’m sooo very tired now but I thought I got things off my chest before I forget tomorrow =)

    I can assure you JLin is very humble, nice, appreciative in person that we can’t help liking and supporting the guy.
    There’s no denying he really appreciated his fans from the little things that he did and said.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes I agree. I’m convinced that with Kemba being the ballhog of Hornets and Cliff doesn’t trust JLin, Hornets isn’t for JLin as a long term. Now more than ever I’d like to see the reunion of MDA and JLin with MDA as the HC. Otherwise, we are only going to witness JLin games are fading away after the good first qtr repeatedly.

  • james brown

    thanks for that in-depth assessments of last game events… JLIN knew this things also and i’m sure thats part of who he will be come next season.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Wish I have a chance to meet him in person.

  • yes, we gotta pray that if MDA and JLin can reunite, it will bring the best out of them. I’m 200% convinced =)

    God willing it will happen!

  • james brown

    it’s not the TRUST issue here, but whoever FO is looking after with their players..KW is their designated cornerstone and being a PG, JLin has no reason to replace him even to dethrone him as the main PG for now.

  • someday, Melody, someday you will =)

  • JoeTeam

    Thanks, it’s what I was waiting for and worth the read. You can see the TOVs in replay now and decide for yourself if JLin was not given calls.

    Nice epiphany, now we know what JLin needs in professional support.

    To be positive then … I still think the clock ran out on CHA as soon as KW decided to play his end-game. It will always be that way, and I’m now seeing more your repeated postings about the bigs. Jeremy had no options inside when he got there. Seems to me a coach can tape some bandaids with the raw talent there.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    hehehe Thinking about maybe next year/following years when I can make it to Phoenix game when you present him with check again:-)

  • blubell

    I agree. I saw the same thing at the Jubilee Conference.
    So.. I’ll be at the Clippers game on Saturday with @LAJane. Thanks to @jackey for tickets. Looks like the seats are at the nosebleed section but hey its free and I’m not complaining 🙂 Hope Jeremy’s ankles heal up soon.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Then expect the long long report from u and @LAJane as well:-)

  • JoeTeam

    🙂 then let Lin pass onward and upward, and every time Lin plays CHA, they will hug him and lose the game with their chosen stars.

  • blubell

    Let me know when and maybe I’ll join you and psalm in Phoenix 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    It’s still the trust issue for me. If they trust JLin to do his part, then the results of games were so much different. THEY TRUST THE WRONG PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • enjoy the game to the fullest =)

  • blubell

    Do you know the if the Jeremy Only Lin Garden ladies will be there?

  • sws94

    I don’t think it’s that. I think Cliff has assigned roles. Kemba is the main ball handler, Batum runs the offense and facilitates because Cliff likes how he does it and Lin is another facilitator who spends time in the paint, is scrappy, and disrupts on both ends. It’s his 3 headed monster. Because Lin plays best with the ball, he ends up the most compromised and Kemba is in a position to play hero ball.

  • that would be soooo awesome!
    @disqus_3ojL2FVU9I:disqus would need to come too!
    Add Brent + all mods LOL

  • JoeTeam
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    OK. Not very good that it happens in January. Hopefully it will be some other times. Plan to go to Alaska cruise in my next trip to North America:-) Happen between Mid May til early September and there is no NBA game:-(

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That will be awesome! Guess I will be the oldest among all:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    No. Believe this is their last game, 6th game to watch. I can ask and see whether they are going.

  • james brown

    it is right now…KW can’t be touch, so you call the non playing for the first half a benching by cliff? it will never be effective because KW will be him and doesn’t want to change..i just hope that after ASG dream, he will do change for the better of Cliff, because right now, CLIFF can’t CLIP KW!

  • Maknusia

    You folks are lightning fast!!!!

  • blubell

    I will, especially since fellow die hard JLIN fan LAJane will be there too 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOL My prediction: Hornets might be hammered badly by Clippers this round. Don’t really care as long as JLin gets his stat.

  • Maknusia

    I would be still waiting for you to add some of the things what might come to light in your sleep! 🙂

    take a leave mate

  • james brown

    as an afterthought, it could be a trust issue…BUT factors do come in..JLIN being a rental and has OpTION next season, they better put their hope more with KW than JLIN because they don’t have guarantee that JLIN will sign with them later.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    hahahaha Actually it was 5 minutes passed when @psalm234:disqus first tweeted in Twitter. Didn’t think I’d be the first:-)

  • james brown

    they will be because they will find out the consequences of their action later!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Well, JLin is playing for the win formula but Cliff and Kemba aren’t. If any of them trust JLin, JLin will stay. I know he will want to as money has never been his main concern but more of playing time and his strengths.

  • Brent Yen

    Make no mistakes, CLT has been bad defensively all season. The hot shooting covered that. I do not know how Cliff got his reputation as a defensive coach….But I do not think Lin has improved much defensively, he just put more effort to it.

  • james brown

    yeah that;’s also my assessment..JLIn is already a good solid defensive player before, he just put more emphasis on it this season

  • Brent Yen

    Thanks Psalm for all the efforts put on this site, and to Lin’s Q&A. All hail Psalm

  • Brent Yen

    I liked Lin’s shooting motion now, over time it will come to be more consistent. As a player, on a temporary contract with a weird team. I like his improvements.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe this is what he needs to do in order to gain playing time. Agreed on defensive matters esp Cliff. Not only he isn’t good in defensive but also offensive. He is as bad as KM and BS; only different is he doesn’t throw players under the bus.

  • aras

    Good first half for jeremy in this game…Jeremy is a balldominant guard and Kemba is as well…but Kemba does not look for his teammates like a PG should…i hope that the turnover Lin had this game was because of his ankles.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOL Can stop laughing when I read “weird” team:-)

  • Maknusia

    All Hail @psalm234:disqus

  • Spot

    So finally Jeremy can win in Phoenix!!

  • Maknusia

    Great job on the report, @psalm234:disqus ..I cant imagine writing as detailed as you on a live game…unless I watch it on a replay. Bravo…hats off….Lin is just another…I had said this during Rox time…the only difference is, Lin makes better and sound plays (his court vision is above the charts) for his teammates compared to Harden. JH is better in getting to the line.

    I remember we made a table matrix then comparing both….it still remains…. Lin is better defensively as well.
    Unfortunately many Coaches dont see them gem in Lin. He is not an one on one player and Lin said it himself.

    Lin can be a Superstar if the FO trust and build a team around Jeremy!

    Again hat offs to your report

  • JoeTeam

    yep, Lin was v good in HOU, on D. It’s just the spin machine. He is improving too.

  • JoeTeam

    watch the Jun Liu highlights and you will see there was contact on 3 of the TOVs. No big deal if you wouldn’t call those. I might, especially because the ball shot out so radically on those. All JLin was missing was the Harden head snap.

  • aras

    Looked at the highlights. yeah i saw ronnie price hitting him on the hand on the drive the 2 others i dont know if i would call though. but its clear that he does not have full strength on those legs. if he did he would absorb it like he normally would.

  • JLin17Fan

    hornets lack of faith in Lins ability showed in this game… he was shooting very well in the first half but when he got a few TOS (most were actually fouls), the hornets got scared… and decided to lose without Lin and win with Lin…. MIND BLOWN… O_o

  • DX

    All because the hair. Lin should keep the 35 pts one.✌?

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, he can take a lot of contact usually. Whew here. Other sure us crzy.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes. It is a simple choice … give Lin the ball fir a few more Parsons and cha wins.

  • Michael

    I recommend @psalm234:disqus attend all Lin’s games to provide us with more quality reports.

  • Michael

    I sure won’t………wait til tomorrow I want em right now!

  • 1mtoldman

    good report. but i wouldn’t call it an “epiphany” just common knowledge that its best for lin and team to have the ball in his hands.

    what i dont understand is the inconsistency with when that is allowed to happen in charlotte. it seems random (but then so does most of cliff’s substitution patterns and team play generally).

    lin had a famously first quarter and looked dominant was dominant player on both teams; then (well this is waht i saw not at the game but with a good stream) when roberts came in the second quarter he completely froze lin out. in the first quarter walker for some reason unknown deffered to lin most or at least part of the time but when lin was in (only about 5 minutes) in the second quarter roberts completely isolated him.

    i dont remember if this was the time that lin was put back in with 2 fouls or not but at one point desperate for someone to shut down booker they put lin back in and he did completely shut booker down in the time he was in.

    then in the 3rd quarter: this time walker went back to iso i guess cause he only had 8 points in the first half, someone here said “walker will just shoot all the time now” and thats pretty much waht happened.

    walker sat a lot more than lin in the first half and again people speculated about that but i think it was just cliff knew he was way short on players and wanted to stagger minutes.

    still walker dont like sitting im sure and immediately cranked up iso my ball my ball time in second half.

    in the 3rd quarter and into the 4th quarter lin never really got any kind of burn with the ball; when walker was in w roberts roberts would fall to the 3 like lin does with batum and walker but when lin was in with roberts roberts went back to being the 1 and lin again fell to the 3 and then lin got a couple (mostly as said reffed out) turn overs and suddenly when he gets the ball now hes pressing because he hardly ever gets the ball (i think he only had maybe 3 shot opporutnities in the second half)

    and then he gets a couple more turnovers and what i dont get: the board here goes ballistiac anti lin; lins terrible lins dissapered lins no handles lin will never be any good.

    now some of that is parasites clinging on at the end who normally aren’t here but some of it is regular posters; wierd.

    lin had statsitically another good game; he got his when he could. more points than his average plus excellent shooting % and rebounds and assists.

    the bad decision making was for the most part not by lin but by the team in terms of coach and other players how they chose to fail to give him the same opportunity he got in the first quarter.

    i still dont know why randomly at times he’s alloowed to play and the rest not.

    the other “bench” players are showing themselves pretty bad. kaminsky is not there yet, hawes is never going to be there again, lamb has been replaced and i think correctly by daniels it seems tho that could change.

    zeller is ok at times but face it lin was as he has often done just making the “bench force” seem good when they were together for an extended time. now with injuires and wierd substitutions things are a mess.

    actually with this game: charlotte not phnx is now the team most in disarray. an thru that all and desptie tiger lin fans unhappiness with his last game or even his last 3 games (and obviously i think his ankle is not a hundred percent which contributes….my only concnern is cliff yanking lin after the large number of turnovers; not something often does and not something for fans to freak out about); his turnovers for the season are still way down. and they havne’t been any big deal for a long time, and you know actually theres no difference between a turnover and a missed field goal either way you just turn the ball back to the other team without scoring. and anybody else but lin has big turnovers no one cares….

    where was i….oh yes except for the concern about perhaps this pulling of lin after turnovers boding against the long run of finishing games and big minutes hes had; for now this is i think 8 strait games of minutes and points. and that hasn’t happened often in lins career since the original linsanity new york run of 10 or 12 games;

    so still looking good with the only concerns a. the ankle b. will this portend to him going back to reduced minutes and not given closing time once more players are available.

    we;ll see but fan negativity during end of game was excessive and not justified.

  • 1mtoldman

    quality reports are important to sleep watchers.

  • David Kim

    I saw Harden in Kemba’s defense. LOL

  • 1mtoldman

    i think its jakey. the winner of the “win a date with bluebell and la. jane” contest. (i forgot about that).

    wow that will be like what 3 games in a row with people from this board at lin games.

    a streak of its own.

    and i think leading the contest on this board for picking the lin performance (if that still exists)

    and basically a newbie; what a lucky guy.

  • 1mtoldman

    clips playing really well lately without superstar griffin.

  • Maknusia

    I guess thats fine its only human to have different opinion by some fans 😉

  • Maknusia

    Picture Time 🙂

  • Maknusia

    More…

  • Maknusia

    more more…

  • Maknusia

    Thats It for today…

  • Acbc

    I think that’s name calling…ban the troll, lol

  • Acbc

    Clifford is old style defensive coach who’d rather contest rim attempts and not give away second chances. The down turn is when kW started to do the ” lazy saving myself for playing 40 min on offence routine”. Any team that has feasted from the perimeter and transition offence has beaten Hornets. Old coach for an old game that has past its shelf life.

  • Acbc

    Idk, every time Pslams attends, Lin loses. He needs to bring Michael and put him to sleep there too to counter his jinx. Lol

  • Phillycheese

    Just watched the game again. Defensively they were pathetic. Lamb left his guy wide open at least three time. Lin left his guy wide open a couple of time. Frank kept sagging into the paint while his man, Teletovic, took uncontested threes. Kemba kept getting lost off dribble (not even picked) and this cause all sorts of breakdowns. On offense Kemba took a lot of questionable step backs a nd got blocked a few times. He had several wide open teammates but did not pass the ball. Seeing as how the bigs could not even finish little bunnies I don’t really blame Walker. Lin was on skates in the second half. Not sure what happened to Lin. Maybe the Suns were a little physical and got away with some contact, but Lin just looked bad dribbling. Hawes was pathetic, just pathetic. Cody hands must be really small as he has all sorts of issues corralling rebounds.

  • 1mtoldman

    lin now has a string of 9 strait games with double digit scoring something he’s only done 3 times before; the initial ny/linsanity run and twice the first year in houston.

    both sides of the lin story seem to deny that lins first year in houston was pretty darn good. 13/6 and an incredible last month. (that last month producing one of the two 1st year houston 9 game double digit scoring runs.)

  • Brent Yen

    In the beginning of the season, they were giving up corner threes and fast breaks to opponents at a really alarming rates. Kemba shooting better than he was, batum, and Lin’s 2nd unit pretty much were the only reason this team is around 500 now.

  • LinJa

    That’s why BF1 is so good, Lin is the PG and lamb thrives with a normal function team ball setting. Most players growing play with team ball style. Only in the NBA you got heroballhoggers. Lin needs to be ball dominant as PG either starting or bench whichever team he chooses.

  • Acbc

    Thanks, said most of what I wanted to say.

  • LinJa

    Kemba looks facier

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  • LinJa

    During cha home broadcast they showed Kemba’s ppg last month. They were bragging it was 28ppg and #2 top scorer. However they didn’t get a clue it’s the same time hornets began their losing streak. This may not be a direct cause to the losing streak, but it sure is a strong correlation to the hornets imploding. These media people can be clueless or blatantly trying to push Kemba to asg or just both.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL

  • Guest

    No, Hornets didn’t lose faith in Lin. They just wanted to push Kemba to ASG so the 1st half was to allow Lin to do his thing since it’s fan’s night for him. The remainder is for Kemba to chuck up shots.

  • Brent Yen

    It is not about the faith, it is about the pecking order….

  • Brent Yen
  • 1mtoldman

    the hoops habit best bargain contract article at top right side here not only lists lin as best bargain contract for hornets but also uses a photo of lin/curry for cover page on article. and says (among other things for those not bothering to link and tread thru all 31 pages) “he’s playing his way into a nice new contract this summer”.

    (also a nice handsome pic of lin from the suns game on the charlotte page).

  • Maknusia

    I like that idea!…that may be it!

  • Maknusia

    Thanks…good interview….at least it gave some perspective

  • sws94

    Clifford said the bench guys didn’t do a good job but he said Daniels and Roberts did well, so I guess he meant Lamb. He said the offense was good enough, not the defense. I didn’t get the feeling he was down on Lin for TOs, he didn’t really say anything about that.

  • CJSHYY

    From his post game interview? I think Lin’s ankle is still not good that’s why 3 of his TOs all due to slip..then lose the ball.

  • blubell

    Unfortunately, jakey can’t make it…

  • sws94

    Post game, yes. Lin’s ankle gets weaker more as the game goes on, I think it shows.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Because the Hornets don’t play in LA until Saturday, they spent last night in Phoenix and will be flying out around noon, local time.

    The game on Saturday, against the Clippers, is just after NOON (12:30) LA time, since the LA Kings have a hockey game at the Staples Center in the evening.

    If you’d like to see how the Staples Center gets converted from hockey to basketball, and back, here’s a time-lapsed video
    __________

  • heart

    Thanks for the video. Staples Stadium has lots of usage and much wear and tear. It must be so costly ($, time management, labor & materials) to keep changing constantly. That’s why LA market is so important to the NBA. Three NBA teams and one Hockey Team are located in different regions of CA but using the same stadium for game day. Additionally, the stadium also schedules concerts too.

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  • KHuang

    If Charlotte actually ran Clifford’s plays instead of relying solely on Kemba Walker’s low percentage Kobe iso bricking, Lin would actually be a superb starting SG averaging over 17 ppg.

  • KHuang

    Too many uncalled ref hits on Lin.

    When Lin gets knocked down on the dribble, that’s supposed to be a FOUL.

  • good analysis.

    agreed on the TOs although we couldn’t see at the time the Suns fouled Lin in Jun Liu’s highlight
    I wished Lin would be more demonstrative to make refs call go his way. I know it’s been frustrating for him since refs just swallowed their whistle a lot

  • About the epiphany, I think 1toldman is right that almost everyone knows Lin would be better being the main ball-handler. I just felt the urgency for next season that it should be the Top consideration for JLin team because it does affect all aspects of JLin game.

    – For example the TOs that were caused by Suns slapping the ball but refs didn’t call? It would go Lin’s way had he be scoring consistently since that’s the start treatment.

    – On these TOs, I think JLin sorta gave up not protesting the refs non-call but I think he should be more demonstrative to let refs know he clearly felt fouled because the next call might go his way.

    It’s frustrating to see Hornets big men can’t finish easy layup. Even my wife and son got frustrated seeing how they couldn’t muster consistent shooting. It’s pretty bad effort by the Hornets big men. They didn’t come ready to play at all. Lin was correct in his post-game comment.

    As fans pulling for Hornets win, it’s quite upsetting to see the minimal effort. I sensed there was not much urgency & they just went through the motion. As a fan, I probably wouldn’t go for pricey tickets for the disappointing effort. I like the effort by Lin, Kemba, Zeller but Frank and Hawes just didn’t show up or put up a fight last night. I still don’t like the predictable offense in the end by Kemba/Troy/MW. Too much 1-on-1 to succeed & not enough defense to stop the Suns

  • I got the sense that once the big men was inefficient to score, the team actually looked okay and hope for Kemba to help score. This team has become dysfunctional once Al Jefferson went down. Zeller couldn’t be consistent presence in scoring and Clifford allows Kemba offense to replace team-ball.

    It’s a difficult issue to solve. The Hornets need to find which big men will be reliable.
    They might not go to playoff if they can’t find the solution.
    It’s too much to expect the guards to keep scoring since they will be well covered by defense

  • KHuang

    If Kemba Walker actually ran Clifford’s offense, the big men would be in the right spots to catch the ball and make clean basketball plays.

  • KHuang

    If Kemba Walker actually ran Clifford’s offense, there would be no need for Lin to be the primary ballhandler because everybody would be running the plays and getting touches.

    Even if Lin were the primary ballhandler, Kemba Walker and Nicholas Batum would break the play just to selfishly shoot their own shots.

  • sws94

    He has to deal with what the refs are calling. They let a lot of physical play go. I thought he definitely drew a charge that wasn’t called.

    It’s like a pitcher and ump. If the ump calls the low ball strikes, keep going low. If he’s got a wide outside corner, continue to throw it there. But if you aren’t getting the calls, then pitch to other parts of the plate. Sometimes Lin needs to find other parts of the plate and in basketball that means use the mid-range shot more, shoot if they go under the pic, put up floaters or jumper further from the rim and try to avoid dribbling into traffic.

  • sws94

    Thanks. Hawes may still be injured. Frank just played poorly.

  • sws94

    You may have a point. When Kemba is off, the team ball looks pretty good. The bigs still don’t convert enough shots. However, the problem with the bench was it couldn’t do anything with the hot shooting of the Suns. Somehow, the Suns picked the day they played the Hornets to shoot lights out.

  • I have a slight suspicion that Kemba feels more comfortable with his ISO moves than making dangerous passes (for him) to those big men.

    Clifford should have asked Kemba to stick to the team offense.
    Too much 1-on-1 is killing his team and he might be too afraid to ask Kemba to change his game.

  • sws94

    Kemba is not a good passer. He can make some basic passes, but not really difficult ones that Lin makes or the moderately difficult ones Batum makes.

  • That could be true. Hawes practiced hard during shoot-around.

    Frank spent a bit too much time talking to Wisconsin fans on the crowd.
    As a rookie, he still has much to learn about his game preparation

  • CJSHYY

    Lin is still #8. Let’s keep voting….

    https://twitter.com/NBAAllStar/status/685160479807909889

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, JLin and SCurry don’t talk to fans before the game. They do sign autographs though, but that’s in their zone too, they don’t make eye contact.

  • JoeTeam

    the feeling comes from being concerned about stats. JLin makes the right bball plays, whether there is someone to catch it or not.

  • JoeTeam

    practice makes perfect 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    THIS!

  • JoeTeam

    the charge was blatant!

  • JoeTeam

    the shots wear off? Good, he needs to rest it no injections of cortisone please.

  • heart

    Ok. Batum is not on the list of top 10? He and KW will have to get voted in by Coaches. So they will continue to push for their stats for coaches’ justification.

  • JoeTeam

    they can always say injures, tough schedule, etc. but people who know bball and watched the games know what happened in winnable games down the stretch and understand things done early in the 4th and in reaction to the opponents moves affect how the 5 play during the last 4 mins. That’s what we need to focus on, because bball is not like football where each down is mostly a restart except for the patterns each coach / unit are experiencing. Bball is not just patterns, but without a mental reset, it flows quickly.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think so….I believe Kemba is the main key for Hornets this year bc Batum has not signed long team contract w Hornets yet. By vote it’s impossible for them only by coaches.

  • heart

    Lin STILL is the only reserve vote-getter to stay in the top 10 EC guards for All-Star 2016.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Ya! I hope he can make it to top 5…

  • spiderman

    If Clifford has to ask (rather than instruct) that doesn’t make him much of a coach. If Clifford is simply going by politics of MJ and Cho, then that doesn’t make them much of an owner and gm, respectively.

    It seems they have decided to sink or swim with Kemba, and sink they will.

    Only bright side for Lin is that he will move on (hopefully to a better team) in 4 months.

  • JoeTeam

    great post, you factor in the game flow with specific observations! Love it.

    I was ok with Lin sitting as someone else here posted. He needed 2 mins to think over his end-game plan, but Cliff only got him in v much in the end when kw already lost the game and it would take a miracle. I think that was less than 2 mins with 7 down.

    Cliff could have easily called Lin over to the sidelines to do a 10 sec chat, that’s the mark of a good coach handling his players. Lin was in no way being stubborn, so the penalty box was a little too hard to control game time left.

  • Acbc

    All I can say about the bigs is that they need to be taught how by repeatedly putting them into that situation. They are going to lose anyways with kemba ball, might as well build a proper foundation for next year. THIS IS AGAIN A FO AND COACHING ERROR.

    Coach Lin took a butterfingers Asik and bunny passed balls to him and taught him how to be passable as an offensive threat. Now he has regressed because Asik doesn’t get the same devlopmental push. A head coach has to have it all, long term goals, mid term and short term goals and merge them into a stepladder to building to a vision. All this while winning. That’s why it’s such a tough job. It takes creativity and self confidence to know that your vision is the right one to bring the team to a desired point in 2-5 years. Each game that goes by, you are either getting closer or falling behind.

    Clifford doesn’t have this ability. Bismark Biyomba is a very good example. He sat and rotted on the bench while AJ and KW was doubled downed. If Lin had worked with him, he’d a almost as good as Ed. Ed was a fouling machine himself until Lin’s middle linebacker leadership steadied him to play team D. And being well fed off PNR was an incentive to stick with Lin.

    This why I keep saying Lin is a transcendent player. He has a way off making people around transcend into positive self images of themselves.

  • MKG is one of the 1st Hornets to welcome Lin. Very nice guy
    I hope he’ll get a chance to play with JLin this season

    The Hornets can use some defense and Ws.

    https://twitter.com/SwarmnSting/status/685173331411116032

  • sws94

    Sometimes he’s a transcendent player. Sometimes he’s a complementary player. I think it’s time to look at areas where Lin needs to take to make the next step. It’s fine to shine up the shiny parts, but you have to address the weaker areas as well. Some of his mental game, decision-making, taking charge when needed, is still a work in progress. And it isn’t all on anyone else, some of it is within Jeremy.

  • sws94

    I hope if and when they play together, they have great chemistry. He’s a guy that can get Lin’s lobs and slam them in the basket. He has strong athleticism and great energy. I hope they gel.

  • sws94

    On a day-in, day-out basis, they don’t really have one. Batum has been great at elevating Cody. He looks for Cody, finds Cody, gets Cody buckets. But Cody with anyone else isn’t the same. Frank has it some nights, others he doesn’t. But Frank more and more is looking to create his own shots. Hawes doesn’t play like a big man, he’s very clumsy in the post and close to the basket. Tyler is constantly in foul trouble and not on the court much.

    Marv is pretty big but he’s more a jump shooting guy, not close to the basket player. Hawes and Cody can pass, especially Hawes, but Hawes has a poor feel for the game.

    They can set screens even if they aren’t great at rolling. They could at least start to set more screens to get some sort of offensive options going. That’s the direction to move in.

  • KHuang

    MKG will WORSEN the defense.

    He doesn’t have any basketball intelligence and is nowhere as athletic as people think.

  • KHuang

    Not a single one of those things is under Lin’s control right now.

    The Charlotte Hornets have become a bad Kobe team run by a bad Kobe wannabe who is intent on freezing everyone out.

    Whenever Lin is handed a real system with nonKobe players, he EXPLODES like he did in preseason when Walker and Batum and Jefferson were held off the court.

  • KHuang

    There is not a single player in the entire NBA that can win by being a one man iso like Walker is doing.

  • KHuang

    Lin gets the best stats BECAUSE he is unselfish and team oriented.

  • KHuang

    They won’t.

    MKG is too unskilled.

    Can’t shoot, can’t defend, can’t dribble, can’t pass. Super injury prone because he does not know how to play.

  • KHuang

    With this ugly iso offense by Walker, it wouldn’t matter if Kaminsky spent his pregame time glued to the playbook.

    Isoball puts everybody in bad positions, especially big men like Kaminsky.

  • sws94

    I disagree. What is not part of the Charlotte Hornets makeup is the toxicity in Houston and LA. Houston had toxic coaches for Lin in McHale and Sampson and Harden who gave no effort on defense yet was an SG playing PG.

    In Kobe, again, a toxic coach and a toxic player in Kobe who just had this way of saying be like me or I’ll make your life h***. He also was an SG playing PG or putting up a ton of shots.

    On so many teams you have shoot-happy people you need to deal with. Kemba is probably the most reasonable of these types. He’s not intent on freezing anyone out in my opinion. He’s playing that way due to bad habits and trying to be a hero because he knows Lin is injured, no Batum, and he’s taking it all upon himself to try to win the game for his team. It’s faulty, but that’s what he’s used to doing.

    What more I’m addressing is why Lin limits himself with driving where he could use his mid-range more. Why Lin doesn’t have a better read on how the refs are calling the game and make adjustments. It’s basically making adjustments, to the game situation, how he’s being defended and schemed against, his body with the injury, and what effective counters he can come up with due to these factors. We can’t always look at others and blame them. All teams have some player on there who may not go with the program. A player has to deal with it if he isn’t a “star” player.

    I actually think Lin’s dealt with that well but Lin isn’t going to explode like he did in preseason if he doesn’t use his mid-range shot. He used that more than the drive in preseason. Even if it doesn’t fall he still has to go with it. And he has to shoot more than 9 times in 20 minutes. He was on the floor without Kemba a lot of the 2nd quarter and didn’t score.

  • KHuang

    If Clifford doesn’t rein in Kemba Walker’s losing selfish play soon, Clifford could easily find himself FIRED like Kevin McHale was in Houston for refusing to hold James Harden accountable to teamball.

  • KHuang

    Wonderful analysis as always, but those big men cannot run that action because Kemba Walker refuses to run the plays.

  • sws94

    Can’t defend? Then where did the reputation of great defender come from? He does seem injury prone.

  • sws94

    Without Batum to keep Kemba in check, Lin needs to be healthy and then some plays could run through him. Neither is the case lately. And Batum when in wasn’t healthy. Batum, in my opinion, partially runs some of the plays.

  • KHuang

    Biyombo is a BUST with no basketball instincts or skills other than swatting like a soccer goalie at shots near the rim.

    If the Hornets did nothing but force Walker to run the offense, the entire Hornets team including Walker himself would play much better and win more with better stats.

  • sws94

    KHuang, are you saying Clifford has the offensive schemes but can’t reign in Kemba to run them yet puts Kemba out 40 minutes almost every game? What we haven’t seen yet is a game without Kemba. Remember the Houston games without Harden and why he started to get others on the team saying ball moves better without him. Since Marv said with the injuries no one should play hero ball, that could be a start.

    I don’t dislike Kemba and I recognize his shortcomings. His improved shooting is actually not helping the team sometimes. The more he scores, unless someone else also is scoring high, the less the team wins.

    As for psalm234’s epiphany, Lin is certainly a better player in rhythm and the ball in his hands. I think Clifford, if he has to have 3 facilitators and 2 on the court at all times, needs to better integrate Lin into the flow that even if he isn’t the PG, he has enough touches to establish a rhythm. Cliff’s failing now is not seeing that both Batum and Lin need to be in rhythm to play well. If they have TOs, they happen. But Lin also needs to be in the rhythm. Otherwise, even with Lin’s playing time and closing games, he may not want to stay with Charlotte if that doesn’t happen more. He needs to touch the ball on almost every possession.

  • KHuang

    The defensive reputation MKG has is utterly identical to Patrick Beverley’s alleged defensive prowess: an UTTER MYTH spun by clueless reporters and analysts that do not watch the games or follow the stats.

    Traditionally Charlotte has been a low scoring low speed team that has focused primarily on defense. While their team numbers historically have looked good, lost in the shuffle is that the Hornets were typically badly outscored. Good defense doesn’t mean anything if opponents are wildly outscoring the Hornets, and MKG is a huge part of that problem.

    And then there’s the durability issue. MKG has played only about 40% of the games available.

    MKG is a MANUFACTURED HYPE player who has “bust” written all over him. And we’ll see it once he returns.

  • 1mtoldman

    admittedly a small sample size but all one would really have to do for a snapshot would be watch the one game mkg played in at the start of the season and see how much better the team was without him.

  • While selecting pics, I’ll post 1 or 2 nice ones.

    Here’s a smiling JLin about to high-five Kemba before the game started (after hugging Tyson Chandler & hanging on the rim as a pre-game routine)

  • 1mtoldman

    there is zero chance kw makes the all star team. just looking at the list of names ahead of him he’s no where to be found and there are plenty of players there beyond the starters vote ins that either thru tradition or current success will be there ahead of walker.

    unless the nba were something like the mlb where each team is required to have a “representative” at the game. no way walker makes it (this year).

    doesn’t of course deter pushing stats for next year (when the game is in charlotte right?)

  • KHuang

    Great analysis.

    Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.

    Kemba Walker has become a bad James Harden clone who’s actually even more selfish and less effective than James Harden was in Houston.

    100% of the time, a bad iso low efficiency bricker like Walker or Harden is also a bad defensive player. Fortunately Harden has completely changed his ways because Jon Blair Bickerstaff has been pummelling him.

    Adding additional ballhandlers alongside Walker will not solve a thing. You could put Lebron, Durant, Duncan, and Curry on the court with Walker and STILL the Hornets would lose when Walker does his freezout iso no defense loserball.

    The only solution to the losing is for Clifford to bench Walker whenever Walker refuses to run the team game. But Clifford is TOO WEAK a coach to do that. And it’ll probably cost Clifford his job THIS season.

  • A nice picture of 2 ex-Knicks. JLin interacted a lot with Tyson of all Suns player before game.

  • sws94

    What happened in the 2Q? Kemba didn’t play much.

  • sws94

    OK, I’ll have to watch more. Beverley is more hype than substance for sure. He plays thug defense, not good fundamental defense.

  • Rick Johnson

    Decreased minutes for Kemba? I’ll believe it when I see it.

    https://twitter.com/BSimmons25/status/685190609913704448?s=09

  • TTNN

    exactly. 🙂

  • This reminds me of 1 thing why Clifford likes Hairston very much.

    Hairston was practicing his 3s & moves until sweat is dripping all over his body right until the shootaround was over.
    His talent might be limited but he’s a hard-worker. It show as he shot well 3-7 FGM( 2-5 3FGM) to score 13pts.
    His 1st 3 within 2 min of the 1st quarter was made from one of his practice spots.

    In contrast, Frank didn’t show the same urgency in the shoot-around although he practiced his 3s and some post-up moves. It was not long enough. No wonder he shot 1-8
    I like Frank but he needs to work harder.

    Unlike last season, JLin was practicing in the indoor court this time during shoot-around.
    But he was nice to come out to give signatures to his fans.
    Overall, I think he’s still not 100% yet. He seemed to try to rest his ankle by sitting down a lot during time-out.
    Last season, he seemed to always standing during time-out

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Only believe when I see it esp Kemba. If he plays more than 30 minutes, then Cliff’s words and trustworthiness are just as bad as BS.

  • LAJane

    Thank God for such an even-keeled post. Great observation and analysis. Those acid negative posts usually stay at their home on the “other site” 🙂 Thanks for some re-balancing fandom, and as usual I learned some things.

  • I am The Jason

    With J Lin with the 8th highest in ASG votes, I wonder if this is a reasoning for him minutes increase. Its makes you wonder.

  • tom

    I can almost guarantee you it is not and his minutes won’t increase
    The only players they are pushing are Kemba and Batum

  • tom

    He should like Lin too then

  • heart

    Yep. Voters have about 38 days including today to vote for their favorite players, and Hornets continue to push for NB and/or KW to be All-Star. We’ll see if they change course soon bc the losses are mounting quickly affecting team morale and effort.

    For my part, I’ll keep voting for Lin regardless to show my support. He’s still the only reserve to make the list of top 10 EC guards w/o much support from the org. The only time I saw was when he had 35pts from Raptors game.

  • Linzen

    I agree 100%.
    Coach just cannot instill his game plan (if it is really team ball). I remember one play in the 4th quarter where Kemba was double team while Troy was wild open. What did Kemba do? Brick a long 2.

    And, it is not just Kemba. I remember Brian Roberts was doing the same in the 2Q as well. No ball movement. He was just chucking up shots instead of running the offense. That’s when a lot of people here screaming for his head (hehehe).

    It looks more and more to me that Clifford is not very assertive as a coach. He can be very smart, but I don’t think he is assertive enough to be a complete coach. Has he ever bark at a player like pop if he’s not playing correctly? Maybe someone can remember?

  • Linzen

    Yeah, it looks to me he is a step or two slower than his usual self. I really hope he’s willing to take the next game off when Batum is back.

  • Bad news 🙁
    My memory card didn’t save the Q&A video when it ran out of memory.
    I will ask if there were people recording the Q&A

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here are Jeremy’s all star voting totals, over the years. The total for 2016 is listed as incomplete (inc.).

    He is recovering from his year in LA. As a percentage of the votes obtained by the “leader,” he is up to about 22%.

    See : http://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_2015_voting.html
    __________

  • KHuang

    Kemba actually passes to Hairston.

    Kemba doesn’t pass to Kaminsky.

  • KHuang

    Brian Roberts is a Kemba clone.

    They’re the same player with the same abilities and selfish tendencies.

    The only difference is Clifford gives Walker tons of leeway and doesn’t give Roberts any.

  • KHuang

    Increasing minutes will not help Lin’s game when he’s being deliberately frozen out by Kemba Walker.

    Increasing Lin’s USAGE is the key here.

    There is no NBA team that can win when one player is doing all the shooting and nobody else is, even if that player is hitting everything.

  • KHuang

    The worse Batum and Walker play, the more Clifford plays Lin to PROTECT them.

  • KHuang

    Clifford doesn’t have the guts to reduce Walker’s minutes when he goes rogue iso and refuses to play defense.

  • KHuang

    Batum doesn’t run the plays at all.

    He just tries to play two man isoball with Walker.

    If anything, Batum is playing hot potato with the ball. Instead of reading the court and making an intelligent read, he’s wildly tossing up bricks and firing turnovers and dribbling aimlessly. That’s because Batum doesn’t understand Clifford’s offense and has no clue how to play in it.

    Coach Clifford has this cockamanie notion that Batum can be a “Hidayet Turkoglu type point forward” from Dwight Howard’s Orlando days. But it won’t work because Charlotte doesn’t have two max contract big men in Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis, plus Turkoglu really wasn’t all that great in Orlando anyway!

  • KHuang

    Completely disagree.

    Though you consider Walker a team player, the actual on court production of Walker HOGGING the ball while playing zero defense has the Hornets reeling just like last season’s Lakers were.

    You are completely wrong about Walker not freezing Lin out. The hard stats indicate that Walker is TRYING HIS HARDEST to limit Lin’s touches.

    Walker is not the great player you insist he is and Lin is not the weakling you say he is. The stats and video and record do not support your views.

  • KHuang

    If Clifford decides to “punish” Lin for not playing hard enough defensively, reducing Lin’s minutes will guarantee that the Charlotte Hornets cannot even beat the last place 76ers.

  • sws94

    I’m not saying Lin is a weakling. He sometimes plays as a complementary player. Especially when on the court with Kemba and Batum. Kemba is certainly not great either. But Lin’s decisions in the 4th weren’t good. In fact it got him benched for one of the rare times in the season.

    In the Raptors game Lin and Kemba passed to each other. Kemba didn’t pass to Frank or Daniels either. I don’t think it is more freezing out than putting blinders on and him going into Kembaball, which is hero ball and when seeing players, not too many of them.

  • sws94

    I don’t think Clifford has any issue with Lin’s defensive play overall.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope he can get more vote than last season.

  • KHuang

    Correct.

    The problem with bad selfish iso players like Walker is that they cause other teammates to go iso themselves to save their own careers instead of just running the team’s offensive and defensive schemes.

    When a teams’s “star” like Walker refuses to play teamball, refuses to help his teammates, refuses to run the plays, and refuses to hustle, it KILLS the team’s dynamics.

    Right now the Charlotte Hornets are going through a very toxic loserball situation that is no different from Kobe Bryant and the Lakers last season. The only difference is that Clifford DOES have faith in Lin to the extent that Clifford is using Lin to try to cover up Walker’s problems. But there is a limit to what Lin can do, and not even Lin can save the Charlott Hornets from Walker’s bad losing isoball.

  • KHuang

    Agree as usual.

    I have absolutely no problems with the way Clifford uses Lin. Nothing Clifford has done specifically with Lin has bothered me. I was even OK with Lin coming off the bench for under 25 mpg.

    Clifford so far is the BEST coach Lin has had in the NBA, if one considers that D’Antoni quit soon after Linsanity broke out.

    My issue with Clifford is not with Lin. It’s with Walker and Batum.

  • DX

    Don’t know if there is limit for one IP one vote. If yes, need to use VPN to vote more.

  • BobbyH

    I doubt the non-us votes are ever counted.

  • KHuang

    Superb post.

    That said, “putting blinders on IS freezing guys out and breaking the offense”. Doesn’t matter the intent, but the IMPACT is very negative.

    Lin GOT HIT in the 4th quarter. He was illegally fouled and was wrongfully given turnovers. When Lin gets knocked around off the dribble, that is a FOUL. Even 10 day D league callups get that call in the 4th quarter, not Asian Lin. Bad refs are why Lin was knocked out of the 4th quarter last game, not bad play by Lin.

    Walker passed to Lin during the Raptors game because Toronto’s players had put handcuffs on everyone else. Besides, you are holding up the example of ONLY ONE GAME against an entire season of selfish Walker minus play suckitude.

    And as far as Lin being a “complementary player” goes, that’s not Lin’s call when Walker is hogging the ball on every play.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Hornets missing a Tyson type player.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Oh no. Do you remember any Q & A that are worthwhile to mention?

  • blubell

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY????????
    LOL jkjk
    Sorry to hear that. Oh well. You can just mention few things you remember.

  • heart

    Thanks.

    In 2015 All-Star Lin was 9th on the list of WC guards w/ 216,246 votes. This year, 2016, after the 2nd return he is 8th on the list of EC guards w/ 122,988 votes. Lin needs 93,258 or more votes to match or exceed last year’s votes. Last year’s conference was tough and he was in a bad situation, yet still got on top 10 list. This year the East got more competitive and he’s the only reserve to stay on 10 list after 2nd return. This speaks volumes to the power of Lin’s fan base! Let’s help him get recognized regardless if he makes it or not.

  • blubell

    I can’t believe Rondo received more votes than Jeremy… something is not right.

  • KHuang

    Of course.

    All Star voting is about as realistic as the popular vote during US presidential elections.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Can’t agree more. NOP Cliff has no gut in telling his “stars” to play teamball!!!!

  • heart

    Sorry Psalm. That happened to me once before and I’ve tried not to forget to bring back up to any important occasions since.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Hope Lin can get more votes this year.

  • Acbc

    From hoops rumour

    “Raptors center Bismack Biyombo has stepped up his play while filling in for Jonas Valanciunas, and the player is also beginning to find his niche in the league after being labeled a disappointment during his time in Charlotte, Jessica Patton of The Toronto Sun writes. “I think he understands now too who he is and what he is,” coach Dwane Casey told Patton. “He’s a rebounder and a defender. He doesn’t have to worry about scoring. He’s an opportunity scorer. [Before] everyone was kind of ‘ah, he can’t catch the ball, he can’t do that, he can’t do this,’ and they were concentrating on what he couldn’t do rather than what he can do.”

    Discussing the pressure being a lottery pick placed on Biyombo, Casey said, “It’s tough, but again there is no shame in having a role as an elite defender and an elite rebounder in the league. As long as Bismack is playing the way he is playing and playing with that confidence, you can erase seven, two, three, 10 [draft number] or whatever, he’s going to have an impact on the game.” The 23-year-old was the No. 7 overall pick back in the 2011 NBA draft.”

  • rookie75094

    Zeller and Chandler should swap jerseys…lol

  • sws94

    I know he was hit a few times on plays being called TOs. That’s the problem. A Sun, I forget who, went barreling into him for a sure charge that wasn’t called in the first half. A number of times he was hit, not called. So, what does that tell Lin. He’s not getting calls. That’s why he needed to figure out a different way to attack, like shoot jumpers or something, call for a pic and shoot over them, something different. He wasn’t getting the calls.

    Walker/Lin Toronto games shows it’s not impossible for Lin and Walker to play well together. There’s no doubt Cliff is going to run the two of them together. And, I’m not sure, but Batum may miss more games too and Lin and Walker will play together without him.

  • sws94

    Some serious game face on Lin and Chandler.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    All of Lin’s points in the first quarter was due to him being super aggressive and totally dominating the defense. He was getting into the paint and scoring pretty much at will. If he wasn’t able to score, his ability to draw the defense led to some nice passes which the bigs could not capitalize on.

    Knowing this, it doesn’t make sense to me why Coach then plays Lin at the 2 spot and has Brian Roberts playing point. A lot of the times when the Suns caught up was when Roberts was at PG. Why not play Lin at PG with Lamb playing SG which seemed to work in the past. If the coach was unhappy with Lamb, why not try out Troy Daniels at SG.

    Most of Lin’s turnovers were due to him being super aggressive, reading the pick and roll perfectly and getting into the paint where he was actually trying to create. These were not silly turnovers in my opinion like Batum or Walker in prior games making bad passes. Lin was actually successfully getting into the paint at will every time he was in the game. Instead of having Lin attack the paint at the end of the 4th, they relied on Kemba taking and missing bad shots.

    For a coach that said in the past that a good team has set rotations regardless of whether a certain player is playing well or not, the rotations so far have been totally unpredictable.

  • KL

    Jeremy’s +/- has been a bit out of whack these past few games. This is an unreliable stat overall, especially in the short term. Nevertheless, over the long course of Lin’s career, he is always a net positive on the floor, even with very bad teams. So I am giving Lin the benefit of the doubt for his recent poor +/-.

    I think coach has been trying to plug Lin into a lot of different situations recently, and that has affected Lin’s rhythm and it is hard to play teamball with a constantly changing cast. In the game that I watched in Washington, one of the last few times we still had Bench Force 1 (BF1), it was clear that BF1 had structure in their offence and defence, with Lin barking out orders.

    Unfortunately, Kemba does not take instructions from Lin (Lin doesn’t even try to tell him what to do). I have not seen any signs that Clifford can contain Kemba, (like yelling at him or something).

    When Kemba became a full time starter in 2012-2013 after his rookie season, Charlotte had a 21-61 record! In 2013-2014, Charlotte improved to 43-39 but in 2014-2015 they regressed to 33-49. Kemba is just not a winner or a leader at the NBA level.

    So I can actually accept that (due to politics) giving Lin less than 25 minutes and letting him lead the bench was the best chance for the Hornets to win.

    However, Clifford has now departed from that plan, perhaps because Al is injured and the starters need more scoring or maybe for some other reason.

    Another problem is that whilst teamball is contagious, selfishball is also contagious. This is very obvious with Kaminsky. With Bench Force 1 there is no need to force shots cause you can move the ball around without fear that it will never get back to you. I have played with ball hogs before and it is very frustrating. You never feel that if you move the ball and keep making cuts you will be rewarded with an easy basket. Kemba has infected the entire team with selfishball.

    Kemba’s effort on defence has also waned. He was better much earlier in the season. I think his higher FG% and winning record has gotten to his head.

    I know we are trying to minimize criticisms of team mates but I have to describe what I see.

  • JoeTeam

    WINNING is the BEST stat!

  • tom

    Lins punished for TOs

  • tom

    Not sure if Clifford sees Lin that way

  • Yascar

    Oh no. Oh well. Thanks for trying. 🙁

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Don’t know if it’s the coach or Hornets’ 7 footers are so useless. I hate it every time Hawes or Kaminsky shooting long range even when it hit nothing but net. They’re useless in the paint from both ends.

  • tom

    I think criticism is fine if its fair
    Name calling is prohibited

    Kemba is trying way too hard sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt
    I see no teamball anymore everyones trying to get theirs when they get the ball Lin too sometimes
    it is contagious
    in that sense, Kemba is the true leader of this team lol

  • tom

    I would add zeller and williams to that list too but to a lesser degree

  • tom

    Rondo has been in the league longer, got a ring as a core member and has been good this season so far

  • tom

    NBA fans are way smarter than Trump supporters

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    At least Zeller and William are fighting in the paint unlike the other 2 always step backward to the 3 point line waiting for Lin to pass the ball. Because of that, Lin attacks the rim alone being triple double team with no man inside to pass to.

  • heart

    When there’s a void of structure, chaos will take its place. That’s what we have been seeing w/ the offense/defense lately… Knowing his character, Lin (w/ an injured ankle) is doing his part carrying out coach’s order to the best of his ability.

  • james brown

    now you are seeing what i am saying all along during our conversation then..it was not evident to you back then for you are so highly positive about Cliff. But saying now that JLIN MAY NOT want to stay with Charlotte eventhough PT and closing game exists, that was my opinion earlier because USAGE is MUCH MORE important than time or even with being a closer.

    JLIN is a PG at heart because he wants to involve the team and being unselfish want his teammates to excel..

    Being SG , he needs touches that KW can’t provide because he also wants to hold the ball not because he needs to facilitate but to make himself open for a shot. KW can’t move without the ball and he’s not trying to change his ways. I could see him during the game asking the ball from everybody everytime except when evident play ensues for other player (like plays drawn for JLIN) for he stays with the corner too just like lin do most of the time.

    and true enough till now, JLIN’s corner is now thinking what happens NEXT…(of course its not on Jlin’s minds right now for he has people who can do that to him for the time being)

  • james brown

    Zeller is 7 footer too, isn’t it?

  • 1mtoldman

    zeller has actually been much improved lately (probably just due to more pt)–and williams has been consistent all season. they’re both ok. not anything more. hawes/kaminsky another story.

  • james brown

    its like having Hill (lakers before) who loves pick and pop!

  • james brown

    tank is still a rook, so passable for now..while hawes is a good teammate, but player inside, he can’t rebound offense nor be as an intimidating as possible on defensive side of the game.

  • 1mtoldman

    i dont think hes doing anything different than hes ever done (kemba)–just hes hitting more shots now and therefore scoring more. and that 6 game stretch of 40 minute plus games is now past, so even his minutes are in line with his history.

    as far has his “winning record”. this season walkers productivity just in terms of big games scoring is not correlating one way or the other to hornet wins or losses. he has a big game they win about 50% of the time; he doens’t have a big game they win about 50% of the time.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That’s why I don’t trust any words from Cliff anymore. He is the same to me with BS except he doesn’t throw players under the bus.

  • KL

    Honestly I don’t see Kemba as a malicious person. He just does not know any better.

  • sws94

    I’m positive about Cliff. I don’t think he’s on any level of Scott or McHale. I think he’s much more intelligent about dealing with his players and understanding their game. Does that mean that I think he’s a perfect coach? No. Does he have shortcomings? Yes. But he’s giving Lin opportunities and showing belief in him and maybe helping some areas of his game that previous coaches have not done.

    Being a PG is more than being unselfish and wanting teammates to excel. I still think Lin’s suspect handles at times is what holds back coaches and his teammates from fully embracing him as a PG. You also need to have a certain command on the court. Lin has it to some degree, but deferring to a ball-dominant player, which he still does, is something the best PGs do not do. I still think Lin is a combo guard, a facilitator at times that likes to get his teammates going. However, Lin is truly a fine scorer and is a better facilitator when his shot is falling.

    I think you and others try to read too much into what Lin may be thinking. His team will look at business options, but that’s what teams do. What I am hearing from Lin is that his priorities are changing in life, basketball is put into a proper perspective, and that more guides him that what has guided him in the past and brought him struggles. How that is manifested is beyond my guess and I think anyone else’s. I don’t see a point in looking beyond this year. This is an important season for and to Lin and he definitely has to do well in Charlotte to help himself, whatever he decides when the season ends. So from the next game on, I want to see Lin do well. When April comes, then I think of next. Not that much until.

    I’m not hear to talk that much about Kemba or to try to make him this team’s person holding back Lin. I think the NBA is full of divas that hog the ball. And they’ve been around since I can remember. Kemba is a mild form of that in my opinion and a decent guy. I don’t love his game, but Lin could have a far worse ballhog to deal with.

  • sws94

    I agree. In fact, I think Kemba is a decent guy just used to doing it one way and it’s hard for him to change that.

  • occupatio

    I agree.

    It IS hard for him to change. Since it is not as simple as Kemba choosing to play different, I think that is all the more reason why Charlotte will not work out for Lin.

  • occupatio

    Yes. But, realistically, how much teamball is Kemba really capable of playing?

    It’s also a matter of skill set. When Kam doesnt pass to an open man, I wonder why he doesnt pass it. But when Kemba doesnt pass to an open man, I wonder whether he even sees it.

  • Briiick

    Letting KW take 20+ shots per game must be instructed from above Cliff. Even an average fan who has played BB before knows it’s going to destroy team morale and interest in defense.

  • occupatio

    given the big dropoff of lin votes in the lakers season during 2015, the downward trend isnt surprising.

    in other words, lin wont be getting as many votes as he did in 2013. its simple been trending down since then.

    (there is no reason for NBA to skew the 2015 numbers because lin was not close to winning an all-star spot anyway; that looks like the real deal.)

    lin will never never reach back to 2013 level of votes until he becomes a starter again.

  • blubell
  • james brown

    just reacting to this one sir..hope this is not too much thinking of JLIN’s future…and i quote:
    “But Lin also needs to be in the rhythm. Otherwise, even with Lin’s
    playing time and closing games, he may not want to stay with Charlotte
    if that doesn’t happen more”

    …and i am Not TRYING Too HARD to think about this…you are just less than us maybe, that’s why you think we do?

    I am just speaking my one cents worth and reading what others had spoken.

  • DX

    That’s not healthy.;)

  • sws94

    Yes, as he is here now and that could be a factor. Why does so much of the board think of the next situation? Because he doesn’t have the ball in his hands as much as he could so he can’t produce as much. That’s true. But the next situation may or may not be better. We are hoping it is. We’re not sure that it’ll be next season though a lot of people hope it is. I think Lin may be tired of new cities, teammates, systems, etc. And now he has a lot of playing time left to make the most of this situation (providing he stays healthy).

  • james brown

    and even with MKG last season, where does hornets stand?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    In my opinion, the Hornets are too much of a “jump shooting” team …This is where I think Al Jefferson helps them a bit.

    Their big are way too small..Zeller has the body of a power forward…William is slimmer and should be a taller small forward.

    My solution is to start Tyler and Zeller together and start Marvin at the 3..than Lin and Kemba as guards….This team has no presence in the paint.

  • Brent Yen

    Simple thing, the longer Lin is away from that 3 weeks in NYK, the less vote he will get

  • james brown

    all maybe’s but accepted too..just saying that it might or might not happen but surely a good deal to talk about while waiting for it to happen and NOT fret about the person whose telling it, isn’t it…

    let’s focus on the opinion itself and NOT the Manner of Thinking of the people here, can we…(Why does so much of the board think of the next situation?) let the talks be lose and free because we have no right questioning the thought process of others even though its within the boundary of permissible discussion..

    again ..thanks for the good input!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    This is his cheat day. He is allowed several times per year.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Only if you don’t burn it off as he does.

  • blubell

    In that case, I’ll cheat too and make the trip to In&Out tonight 🙂

  • blubell
  • Brent Yen

    I think it is the matter of style…..the current build, they should have to play faster…they are playing like AL is on the floor while AL is not

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL My dietitian told me I could cheat once in a little while. I behaved quite well for over a year and then with all the more downs than ups in the past year, I lost control of my self discipline:-( Found that it was harder to be self-discipline in food intake in US than here in Australia but still it was pretty bad this day:-(

  • blubell

    At work, we have interns coming in from Korea. They are usually slim when they arrive but gain about 10-15lbs by the time they leave after a year. They then lose it quickly once they are back in Korea. US restaurant and fast food are definitely not healthy and hard to lose the pounds. LOL

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Tell me about it. I gained over 25lbs when I stayed for about 14 months during 2006-2007. Took me about a year to lose 15lbs and another year to lose all that plus more with self-discipline exercise. When I returned to Brisbane, it was getting worse gradually and was out of control again in stressful work life. Was able to lose again because of health and was pretty good until after radiation. Dealing with so many different fronts of unwellness last year finally losing battle again. Now it’s getting harder to return to former self:-(

  • blubell

    Yup. The struggle is real 🙁

  • jakey

    That is the emptiest In-n-out I’ve ever seen haha

  • heart

    When Lin was trying to get into the paint to create, Hornets bigs didn’t follow his lead playing PnR to clear the paint for him (lure opponent bigs out of the way). They were basically standing and watching instead of moving along w/him. To me, that was why there was so much congestion in the lane. The opponent bigs were able to just focus on blocking and defending Lin’s path while their guards focused on stealing the rock from Lin.

  • blubell

    True. They’re usually packed even at midnight!

  • Briiick

    Agreed. But I feel that the one who offered him the fat contract keeps reminding Cliff to boost his stats.

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep. At times I really don’t know what causes the unwellness. Guess combination of having cancer, operations, treatments, peril menopause doesn’t do any good to my body that has already had many chronic health issues to begin with. I also know general anesthetics do affect my wellbeing greatly even when I was younger. With aging plus having 3 in less than months are really a killer. It affected and still affect me. Gaining weight is the last of my many concerns for a while:-( Feel like giving up at times:-( Anyway, stay healthy is the most of all. No health, nothing can be accomplished. That’s what I learn from my journey plus many others including JLin.

  • blubell
  • DX

    Lin? Not bad to Nets.

  • sws94

    No. It wouldn’t be for Lin. And Lin to Nets is bad. They aren’t a good team and they are dysfunctional.

  • BobbyH

    Only if Hornets gave up the season already to trade Lin. But at this point, I doubt. Could be SG/SF is shorted handed. Some injury status we don’t know?

  • DX

    If Lin can start and play PnR with Lopez, it may could make into playoff.

  • sws94

    They aren’t a playoff team. They are one of the worst in the division. They are in 14th place. Hornets have a better chance and I don’t think they’ve shown any interest at all in trading Lin.

  • Maknusia

    hmmm another conspiracy…I think we need to send @disqus_3ojL2FVU9I:disqus with you next year…first the check and then the video…what else?!!! tapping my foot…tok tok tok

  • blubell
  • Maknusia

    true in a way…that Kemba doesnt pass much…but among his passes, FK receives more passes than most other in the team

    In fact he is the third highest recipient

  • donsmacau

    JLIN certainly could be part of a trade to Nets if Cho has come to terms with Hornets not making playoffs. Unfortunately there is zero chance JLIN would stay with the Nets as he has a player opt-out imo http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/1/2/10700542/article as they are the most screwed up franchise in the NBA currently with no redeeming value to JLIN’s career.

    Thus JLIN would not be included in this trade.

    JLIN to Sixers!

  • DX

    At least Nets is better than 76ers now. Close to Bucks, Pelicans, and Wolves.

  • DX

    There is no chance for Lin will go to Sixers.

  • donsmacau

    Well, I guess that’s your opinion.
    If you’re that adamant, you’ll be in for a shocker.

    Before the Feb trade deadline a multiplayer trade with Sixers will happen; if not then by next season – bank on it.

  • cdblue10

    Lin going to Nets if that happen can probably reach the playoff,Nets have legitimate players better than Hornets if they have a premier guard

  • donsmacau

    If you have been watching the Brooklyn Nets this year, then not sure how you could honestly say Nets have a chance for playoffs with that team and those players, coaches and management.

  • DX

    I don’t understand why make you guys certain Lin will go to 76ers? because MDA or something else?

  • CJSHYY

    Something wrong w Batum?

  • donsmacau

    Predominantly because MDA and Colangelo are the center of power with 76ers.
    Additionally, only two Point Guards ever ran MDA’s system without flaw Nash/JLIN.
    Thirdly, Sixers need a starting PG and won’t risk another uncoachable, skill-lacking, egotistical chance at a player that MDA cannot trust if JLIN is available.

    And JLIN would be available.

  • donsmacau

    Batum and Clifford, think Batum is a point guard.

    Bogdonavic is a wing shooter.

  • cdblue10

    Nets has a better players than Hornets,they’re not just used the right way and they don’t have a legitimate PG to run a good offense.A Joe Johnson,Thaddeus Young Brook Lopez w/ healthy Jarett Jack,Bargnani and Wayne Ellington is a group of veterans that are capable to play and reach the playoff if played the right way.This team has defense,length and athleticism to compete if they have the right guard to lead this team.

  • donsmacau

    Would be career suicide for JLIN at Nets because GM Billy King and coach Lionel Hollin are acknowledged as the worst in the NBA at this point (which is probably one reason Cho wants to take advantage with Bogdonavic), the situation would be no better for JLIN than with Hornets and in probability could be a lot worse.

    Doesn’t matter whether Nets promise JLIN fair shot at starting – their word cannot be trusted.

  • cdblue10

    Lin has all the options after this year and there are a lot of things that he can’t control.If he will be traded then he will just make the best out of it ,same with his situation now w/ Hornets but if he will be traded to Nets he has nothing to lose.

  • golfhacker

    What will be vital to Lin’s career going forward is having a coach that believes in him. There’s only one coach out there who fits that category – Mike D’Antoni. And just to reiterate Psalm’s “epiphany”, the only chance Jeremy can fulfil his potential is to be the starting PG on a team, with a coach that isn’t afraid of politics and has the full support and trust of the front office. Going the to Sixers with Colangelo and D’Antoni there would be nirvana for Jeremy. And would be nirvana for Lin fans as well.

  • DX

    Frist, MDA isn’t the head coach. He hasn’t worked with Lin for 3,4 years. Lin maybe a candidate, but not the only choice.

    Second, Lin is 27 now, we all know why he chose Hornets. If Lin choose 76ers, it will be another gambling.

    Last is just my feeling. Lin’s decision is usually unguessable. Just like to Rockets, to Lakers, to Hornets. 76ers is just too easy to guess which it hardly happen.

  • donsmacau

    Well if JLIN goes Nets in trade then they will have to promise him that he will be the starter, because that is what MDA of Sixers will promise JLIN.

    If Nets cannot promise him a starting job, then JLIN exercises his player option without question to head to Sixers.

    Seems as if the Nets fans generally want JLIN though, sorry to disappoint them. http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/1/7/10733468/charlotte-hornets-interested-in-bojan-bogdanovic

  • donsmacau

    First, MDA is the second most powerful employee of the Sixers not named Colangelo. http://articles.philly.com/2015-12-21/sports/69189311_1_brett-brown-thad-young-sixers

    Second, Point Guards in the NBA do not peak until 30 years old so JLIN age is perfect.

    Third, JLIN designed an artificially low contract with Hornets so that when his starting opportunity arrives that Hornets cannot prevent him from seizing – this is what he planned.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They need PG, J Jack out. Lin goes NY.

  • donsmacau

    If he goes to Brooklyn, they have him for just the remainder of the season before he opts out to head to Sixers.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    To help Lin & Co?

  • donsmacau

    JLIN & Co need wing shooters, don’t have anybody who can shoot that doesn’t also believe they need to be the ball-dominant ball handler.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I don’t understand the first part “a 10-D contract to Elliot Williams.” What is 10-D and who is Elliot Williams???

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I thought Lin has been a corner shooter?

  • Rick Johnson

    10 day contract

  • donsmacau

    JLIN should be point guard, I was referring to Nic Batum.

  • DX

    OK, how about let’s make more interesting?

    If Lin goes to 76ers next season, I will donate $100 to Jlinportal.

    If Lin doesn’t go to 76ers, you donate $100.

    We can ask @psalm234:disqus as witness.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I’d rather have him go so he can play his natural position.

  • Briiick

    B.Bogdanovic to back up Batum ?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Should have.

  • donsmacau

    How about $1 million?

  • Briiick

    Batum could demand the max and Hornets perhaps don’t offer much higher than KW’s contract.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Wonder what the Nets asked back?

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe Lamb can’t play anymore or for a while so they need SG for bench.

  • sport

    Doesn’t matter, MDA has real power in 76ers which is why they started winning again right after they hired him! He was hired to mold the team and give input on how the team should be run.

  • CJSHYY

    They will offer Batum’s salary higher than Kemba. MKG is higher than Kemba.

  • JoeTeam

    good point but not sure it matters to KW if Al is on the floor or not.

  • sws94

    Lin isn’t mentioned at all in any of this.

  • sws94

    They are better than the young 76ers. Yes.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No he wasn’t. However, Bojan is cheap contract and also a starter. They need PG, very high possibility Lin was mentioned.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The Hornets are building the team around Kemba so do not think that Lin is untouchable especially in recent games. If Cho and MJ are looking for fire power, Bojan is the Nets’ starting SG with cheap contract (similar to Lin). I would not be surprised if Lin was mentioned in return because the Nets do need a PG.

  • bolero

    d antoni is rumor to go back to suns..

  • TTNN

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/1/7/10733468/charlotte-hornets-interested-in-bojan-bogdanovic

    Nets fans were speculating about Lin there. LOL

    No way Hornets will trade Lin for this guy though. Lin is cheaper, and this guy is not even shooting better than Lin

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin can reunite with Ellington.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin is not much cheaper (about $1 mil) and I wouldn’t absolutely say no. If they both need something, they will have to give up something. They can package here and there to make it happen if they want it bad enough. Both teams are in desperate to improve.

  • sws94

    It makes 0 sense for the Hornets to trade Lin. They need Lin and unless they have someone who can play the level of D Lin can as well as facilitate, and Bojan certainly isn’t that type of player, then this trade would involve others. On the Hornets boards they think Roberts or PJ. Not somebody with Lin’s talent.

  • TTNN

    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/1/7/10730396/charlotte-hornets-miscommunication-gives-up-dagger-to-p-j-tucker

    At the hive had a case study for defense, and then I take a careful look, and was really disappointed to the way Kemba was defending. so I posted to the end of this article.

    I took a loot of couple of 3pt shot made by Sun yesterday, people were picking on Lamb, he was making mistakes because he was over helping, but at least he was trying. I get more and more annoyed by Kemba’s defense now.

    BTW, Lin was late in some 3s yesterday, but I looked at it, those are not his fault, Dainel was equally clueless as Lamb, and he totally overhelped and left his man widely open, and Lin had to defend at the last second…

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Regardless of what we think, Lin is still an under-size SG therefore easily getting into foul trouble when guarding a bigger guy.

    It might not happen but if both teams wanted bad enough, there’s always something else can be done.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It was the Suns one of those nights, they just couldn’t miss any 3pt attempted, no matter who the guard was

  • bolero

    must be the bowling trip. lol

  • Yeah, no way Hornets will trade Lin as he’s the best defender with MKG out when 100% healthy

    I’m not impressed with Bogdanovic, Hornets desperately need a shot-blocker/rebounder/banger inside.
    BTW, JLin Garden ladies mentioned how nice you are =)

  • gasparthe2nd

    It’s beginning to seem to me, being how the Hornets are playing Kemba and others (to the downplaying of Lin), AND how much better the ‘6ers have been playing recently, that Lin may just opt to return to d’Antoni.

  • Rick Johnson

    This is what I suspected causing those turnovers. Players know they can get away with fouling Lin without getting called. It’s probably in league wide scouting reports.

    https://twitter.com/romelo/status/685301610633797632?s=09

  • Brewkowski

    Gawd, I hope so.

  • KHuang

    PERFECT TRADE.

    A nonAsian for an Asian. Performance doesnmt matter.

    Get it done!

  • JT

    smh 閉嘴. I am all for positivity, just not being delusional and I thought you are one of the better posters

  • TTNN

    LOL, because I did not tell them who I am? haha……

  • KHuang

    Actually, it would be insane for the Hornets NOT to trade Lin.

    He’s the 3rd string PG in pay and is universally reviled by front offices around the league.

    Lin is not a player the Hornets intend to keep anyway.

  • KHuang

    Here comes the latest Jeremy Lin replacement.

  • KHuang

    It’s the coach.

    When Walker is ditching the offense in order to jack bricks, it completely stops the Hornets’ motion and spacing.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • KHuang

    On the other site, Lin haters constantly crow that Lin “can’t dribble” and “is turnover prone” and “is soft”.

    Lin haters blame Lin for ref cheating.

  • KHuang

    Kemba Walker is being TARGETED by opposing offenses.

    Everybody knows that since he refuses to put up a fight defensively, it throws the other four Hornets out of whack defensively.

  • KHuang

    You’re definitely right from a sheerly basketball standpoint, but trades are often made WITHOUT basketball production in mind.

  • KHuang

    Lin’s foul trouble is NOT from guys running circles around him and shootig over him.

    Lin’s foul trouble is strictly from lying cheating racist NBA refs who allow opponents to handcheck and bodycheck Lin but call phantom fouls on Lin when he’s on defense.

  • KHuang

    Lin and Tyler for Bogdanovic.

    The salaries would match, I think.

    The Hornets would be ejecting their two most hated players, though Hornets fans are NOT the ones doing the hating. Hornets fans have been wonderfully appreciative of both Lin and Hansbrough.

  • KHuang

    Were Lin the PG and Kemba Walker not playing, the Hornets would have completely stopped the Suns and would have won by 20.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Bench does not seem to follow lin when he plays pg like earlier in the season. Everyone iso.

  • occupatio

    there’s always a Price to pay. =)

  • Briiick

    This would help KW’s All Star prospect better than letting him take KB’s shots every game.

  • occupatio

    Thadeus Young, Brook Lopez, Thomas Robinson are all bigs Lin can play with.

    would be cool.

    and we can finally use the silly pun Brook-Lin

  • JoeTeam

    BoBo lol.

  • occupatio

    i dont see how any rational person in the charlotte org can think that kemba has a chance to make the All-stars, even with the coach’s vote. ive never taken seriously that theory about charlotte’s agenda

  • KHuang

    If a 3 way trade with Phx were executed, it would be Bojan and Bogan Bogdanovic.

    Boob1 and Boob2

  • occupatio

    i dont think cliff would want to trade Lin, but it’s possible the FO might. that’s where my hope lies.

  • Briiick

    I suspect this is the beginning of a two-year stud fabricating project, targeting the All Star game in 2017 when Hornets are the host.

  • occupatio

    On Nets, Lin would be starting PG with no serious competition from Larkin and that 3rd string Sloan guy. And he would have solid bigs to play with. It’d be wonderful.

  • Hm, it’s possible but what would be the FO motive to trade Lin.

    Unless they can get someone more valuable to help to go to playoff, Lin’s marketability & defense/playmaking/Kemba insurance is hard to replace.

    It’s very small chance IMO

  • Briiick

    If their goal of making KW look like an All Star is more important, then it makes more sense to trade Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    I can’t discuss trades without yearning, so I try not to because it’s ugly for me to yearn lol.

  • occupatio

    the main rationale would be that the team isnt going anywhere this year, and lin will not stay next year anyway, so its better to get something for him before he walks.

    due to the MKG and Jefferson injuries, and the current team record and where its trending, the FO could decide that this season is a lost year (ie, no serious run at the playoffs). I do not think that conclusion is unreasonable, esp with the key injuries.

    If the season is considered ‘lost’, then it’s about acquiring assets. lin would not come back next year anyway. they already have their 2 main playmakers in kemba and batum.

  • JoeTeam

    hmmm … will they be better than M&Ms? (M Morrises)

  • JoeTeam

    It would be nice because both Nets GSW games were fun to watch. JLin could step in for Jack and it would be a fun 40 games.

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t understand the point of ASG. I got it for Harden because he got paid more if he made it, but normally, it’s a boring weekend for me a competition fan, and I would guess most players would like to have a few days off instead of schlepping to the city and having to do events. Dunno …

  • Lin is actually helping KW to be an All-Star to serve as a decoy so teams can’t double-team Kemba.
    And Kemba and Lin actually get a long very well so the team chemistry is not a big problem.

    No jealousy to the extent of what Harden & Kobe had in previous teams

  • guest

    If a team is able to get Lin because they are willing to trade for him, maybe he can be in the same position Lamb is in with the Hornets.

  • JoeTeam

    I trust you psalm, but how can anyone deny that there were winnable games that were iso’d away?

  • guest

    I mean Batum.

  • KHuang

    Yes, and also better than the Tragic brothers.

  • KHuang

    Urk, it’s possible for Lin to be traded to yet another team where Lin’s forced to play out of position the way Batum currently is.

  • occupatio

    if im the opposing coach, i would not double-team kemba. id just let him shoot as much as he wants.

    seriously, aside from trapping kemba on PnR, no teams actually double-team him. opposing teams dont take him seriously. thats why kemba will surely not win the coach’s vote for All-Star.

  • PPP

    If they sense that lin wont re-sign with them after the season, then it may make sense in the FO perspective (agreed that clifford may not want to trade lin). They uprade their wing position with a cheap contract for 2 years at only 3.4m each. With the way they are playing now, its difficult for them to sneak into the playoff even when batum comes back from injury.

    So Lin + Hairston may work for both sides. Ideally nets fire Hollins and get MDA as head coach.

    On can dream, haha.

  • Acbc

    This is what I think as well. In fact, I’m sure it’s in everyone’s scouting now to stop the ball from getting to anyone else and let Kemba shoot the team down with his chucking.

  • Hope

    Wow, is this really happening, lin back to nyc?

  • sws94

    Lakers lead led by Russell.

  • sws94

    Not at all. It’s a trade rumor that doesn’t involve Lin’s name.

  • sws94

    Also Batum insurance.

  • Acbc

    Like it already.

  • That’s a plausible scenario if the Hornets gave up the season & want to trade Lin for some assets before he walks away for nothing.

    But I would also wonder if the Hornets as a franchise would trade Lin against his wish since Cho and Clifford ‘woo-ed’ JLin to come to Hornets. Unless JLin sees the Hornets went back on their words regarding his role, he probably would prefer to finish the season as a Hornet trying to go to the playoff.
    If it were the Rockets and Morey, I have no doubt they’d trade JLin as an asset.

    Also I wonder if the new asset would outweigh some marketing benefits of having JLin in Charlotte.
    Pete Guelli definitely kept track of China NBA subscribers, greeted JLin fans personally. Lin’s presence has been no doubt good for Charlotte.

    But I guess we’d have to wait and see if the Hornets would give up on their season or not.

  • cdblue10

    Being delusional is different from looking at the bigger picture.Hornets is not far different from Nets right now,they’re even out of the playoff picture at this moment.If you think that Lin will become a better player in Hornets uniform will just make you a misinformed people who thinks he will succeed in Hornets.If Lin will be traded in Nets he will get more opportunity since he has no competition in PG position.Nets right now is near bottom in Eastern conference so there is no other way to look at this team but everything would be an improvement whether they would reach the playoff or not.Now tell me,would you want him in Hornets that wouldn’t reach the playoff and being the 5th option or you want him in a team where he has a better chance to succeed?After you think it better,tell me I’m delusional.

  • sws94

    Russell may be hurt after scoring on a drive.

  • I checked the Nets is 2nd to last in the Eastern Conference with 10-25 record.
    Man, I wonder why Lionel Hollins is not on the hot seat yet.

    In the unlikeliest chance of Lin becoming a Brooklyn Nets, he would definitely rejuvenate NY crowd to give their season something to cheer about!

  • sws94

    Seems ok, turned his ankle. He tried to play and now is headed towards the locker room.

  • Briiick

    The fun of being an NBA owner is not only making money, but also owning (or making) stars.

  • sws94

    While Lakers made their run, Kobe sat. He isn’t in the closing lineup, the Lakers are trying to win the game with him on the bench. And Kobe had a good game.

  • sws94

    Just a tradition and big show now. It’s all NBA promotion.

  • TTNN

    I feel that so strong in that GSW game, feels like GSW just play Draymond/Curry pick and roll, and Kemba just give it up all the time.

  • JoeTeam

    I guess so, but why bother if they are not bonafide. Joe Lacob is having more fun than MJ?

  • JoeTeam

    Rondo, clean strip from behind unlike Price or Tucker, and then JClarkson tackles DMC low and injures him. Refs did their job. Different than last night.

  • Warren

    Jeremy Lin Has More All-Star Votes Than Dwight Howard, Damian Lillard
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/jeremy-lin-star-votes-dwight-howard-damian-lillard-2351853.html

  • sws94

    Kings win but great comeback by Russell and the young guys while Kobe sat. Rondo played great. Cousins turned his ankle too but seems like he’s ok.

  • Briiick

    Yeah I voted today.

  • JoeTeam

    JC looking very bad on that, stripped and then talking Cousins – could have been a knee hit going down like that.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too.

  • Briiick

    KW doesn’t seem to have an ego as bad as Harden, but the FO find only Lin in the top 10 from the 2nd round vote count and may feel competitive towards him as a rental.

  • tom

    those people will ruin what once was a great country
    I hope trump gets elected so all the talent will flow into canada and other countries

  • TTNN
  • tom

    Lin is a t 2m/yr they cant get any decent player back at that price range lol

  • tom

    I sincerely think Cho wants the best for Lin
    Although he doesnt make it obvious but I think he’s a Lin fan

  • oh, it’s the real world so even when Kemba and Lin have great chemistry, I’m sure Kemba would still want to be the Top Dog in order to win.

    Either Kemba’s limitation in playmaking limit his ability to play team-ball or he was just so used to be the focal point of offense in the past 2 years.

    It’s too bad there is no reliable PnR big like Ed Davis that can give the Hornets a real weapon to have Lin run PnR. Lin’s strength is really handicapped without a real big man who can finish and be in synch with him. Over the years, only Ed Davis and Tyson Chandler can really have great chemistry with Lin.

  • that might be possible; I’m sure they realize their losing record now is probably not going to send anyone to All-Star *sigh*

    I feel like Lin is stuck in the Hornets without a real partner to run PnR.
    It’s a definitely a transition year to rehab his Lakers year destroyed by BScott

  • tom

    Conley isnt out for long though right?

  • yup, Lin remains the steal of the year for any NBA team!

  • tom

    They know Lin is very popular because of his heritage
    They don’t need to feel competitive towards Lin

  • tom

    Its a fun weekend
    Players have fun relaxed

  • occupatio

    i dont follow what youre asking. are you saying griz will waive eliot williams?

  • tom

    Cho isnt stupid enough to trade him now
    If they are gonna do anything big, this is their year
    They will never be able to sign someone of Lins calibre at 2mil and a team with so much potential w/o bigs
    if Clif cant at least make the first round some what competitve he needs to be fired

  • tom

    Hornets also want to sign him

  • tom

    Not sure why the Hornets are going for Eliot WIlliams or Bojanivc, they have enough guards they need bigs who can do the dirty work and play good defense in other words one with touchness
    all those bigs are soft and lazy or unskilled(zeller and williams)
    they should be looking to trade for a big
    Clifford really is clueless maybe my man Cho needs a sanity check too

  • occupatio

    with MKG out, Al gone, and the remaining bigs all being sub-par, and I dont see how this team can ‘do anything big’ this year.

    and why sign bobo if they already have daniels? does bobo play D?

  • tom

    Davis not skilled enough he is where he belongs, a career back up
    They should go for a Howard

  • Rocky

    Very nice in-depth digging. The video helps a lot! Thanks for the analytical report, as usual.

  • TTNN

    some one was reported Hornets getting him

  • tom

    Thats what im saying, cliffrod is clueless
    bobo is overrated

  • occupatio

    well, grizz would have to waive him first, right?

  • occupatio

    i totally agree. the team needs a better PF or C, not more guards.

    but even if cliff got another big, he would not know how to use him anyway.

    this team is going nowhere.

  • tom

    Not with Clifford
    My man Cho needs to step in and talk some sense into this incompetent coach
    He does seem to like Lin a lot though to be fair

  • occupatio

    but an eliot or boj signing would make more sense if they are trading lin. otherwise, its redundant with current roster.

  • JoeTeam

    wasn’t it said that D12 does not like to come out for PnR?

  • occupatio

    lin would agree to go to brooklyn. why wouldnt he? the nets would become Lin’s team. thats a rare rare opportunity.

  • tom

    10-25 might be the reason why Lin wouldnt go
    they wont make the play offs

  • tom

    Does he have a choice now?

  • Briiick

    Lin and Zeller did PnR pretty well in the preseason games. One speculation I found from another site is that Cliff doesn’t want to run PnR because otherwise KW could have taken 30 shots every game instead of 20 shots he has been doing now.

  • occupatio

    if hornets were seeded right now, then the nets’ record would be a real concern. but hornets are out of the top 8 in east and falling.

    anyway, career-wise, nets would be the wise move.
    1. he could put up very good numbers on the nets;
    2. the bigs would complement lin well;
    3. it would give ‘starter’ status back to lin, otherwise he will always be perceived as a backup player, like he is now.

    lin could still leave the nets next year. he doesnt have to stay with them. its just a stepping-stone.

    the big downside regarding nets is that franchise is doomed due to their contracts and lack of picks. but does anyone here seriously think that Cliff and Kemba can take a team deep into the playoffs even with an upgraded roster?

    I certainly don’t. maybe lin thinks cliff and kemba can, but he would be silly to think that.

  • tom

    The nets are a bad team and those guys only care about themselves Lin will just end up watching them iso like on the lakers and wont put up too good of stats
    even if he does and the team holds a losing record, wont really help him that much

  • occupatio

    who is ISO-ing besides johnson? i dont think thats a huge issue.
    being the STARTER next to a volume shooting SG is better than being a BACKUP to a volume shooting PG.

  • occupatio

    the whole discussion about PnR on this team is pointless because of cliff. aside from the sorry screens that the bigs set, another issue is cliff’s failure to utilize the third teammate not directly involved in the PnR but is the release valve. cliff does not know how to use the third guy at all, and thats why his PnR sets will always be limited.

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Howard???!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me????!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is one of the last bigs that I want JLin to have teammate with again.

  • tom

    why not? hes athletic
    plays good D, tough, has good hands, a good PnR roller and he can rebound better than any of the big they have right now

  • tom

    The whole team is selfish

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I haven’t seen him do any PnR when JLin played in Rox. Howard definitely isn’t PnR player. I was so disappointed after the season began. That was my first year that I was able to watch live games.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Can’t agree more. Cliff is definitely clueless in how to execute games. Very very disappointed in him. He is good in theory only but in actual games, he is totally clueless.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I vote JLin in 4 different ways each day:-) Only miss a couple days due to commitments that prevented me from voting.

  • occupatio

    jarrett jack was selfish. if the ‘PG’ is like that, of course the rest of the team would be. it could change with lin at PG.

  • Feb 8 Chinese New Year celebration is planned.
    It will be a home game vs the Bulls.

    It might further lessen the chance for any possible trade.
    Note: JLin Garden members informed me that Lin’s jersey was the #1 seller in the Hornets gift shop.

    JLin is already a marketing All-Star for the Hornets =D

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/685353425131839489

  • Maknusia

    Wish they had done that last season

  • you have a point. And wasn’t Lionel Hollins rumored to be a possible destination for 2015-16 season along with the Hornets (reported by Greg), although as a backup PG

    http://en.yibada.com/articles/32400/20150512/nba-free-agency-rumors-jeremy-lin-to-brooklyn-nets-isn-t-far-fetched-scenario.htm

    But Greg from Sportige also had this to say later

    Brooklyn Nets – Deron Williams, Jarrett Jack and now also Steve Blake, although he might be moved on, who knows. Jeremy Lin would be an upgrade for them, but for a team that can’t run and with a rather uncreative head coach in Lionel Hollins, this doesn’t really make sense.

  • Maknusia

    They might be tanking hence Hollins might be doing a good job?

  • Spot

    Hollins’ way of play doesn’t suit much for Jeremy.

    I like the destination, not the coach.

  • Maknusia

    Personally I dont buy into the idea, that CHA is running current plays to make him ASG. Yes ASG is every one’s and Organization wishlist, but I dont think it has anything to do with current CHA’s situation

  • JoeTeam

    I guess if he’s happier and willing to try, he would win a ring with it.

  • MoominFloren

    urgh the poster design…..

  • james brown

    maybe for JLIn trade with possible big from grizz or pick?

  • Spot

    So cyberx on Clutchfans wrote a trade involving Jack for Lawson and Terry was in place before Jarrett’s injury.

    Who knows? Maybe Jeremy back to NY is really a possibility. But I don’t like Hollins, though.

    My dream scenario would be a 3 team trade who would bring Ed Davis and Jeremy back together again. Obviously with MDA as coach. Jeremy and MDA have an unfinished business in NY …

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Just saw a report from that GS Warriors was thinking about getting JLin because of the injury of Curry. LOLOLOL So many trade rumors and/or speculations that are flying around. Not getting any hope of being traded until end of season. JLin is going to make the decision then.

  • Spot

    It could also be Jeremy’s agent who is trying to keep Lin’s value high

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Nop. The article was based on the speculation from fanside article. Doubt there is any substance from the article.

  • KHuang

    Right now the Charlotte Hornets are playing worse than the Nets because of endless iso selfish loserball.

    At least on the Nets, Lin might have SOME chance to play teamball unlike Charlotte where Lin has NO chance.

  • KHuang

    Right now Charlotte is even worse.

  • KHuang

    But on the court, it’s obvious that Kemba has a BIG problem with Lin.

    Kemba hates Lin as much as Kobe and Melo and Harden did.

    The actual game production shows Kemba to be feuding with Lin.

  • KHuang

    Actually, Kemba seems to have a WORSE ego than Harden.

    At least Harden had enough basketball sense to rely on Lin every now and then.

    Walker doesn’t have that, nor is Walker as good a player as Harden was.

  • KHuang

    But they DO feel competitive anyway.

  • KHuang

    Ed Davis was actually an unrealistic pipedream because Byron Scott refused to play him much with Lin.

    Tyson Chandler was good, but that didn’t even last half a season.

    Preseason showed that Lin had more than ample big man quality when Charlotte actually ran its offense instead of isoing it away with Kemba Walker selfishness.

  • KHuang

    Because Lin is just a RENTAL and the Hornets want more scoring from the bench if Batum walks and brick handed injury prone MKG is the starting SF.

  • 1mtoldman

    a recent report talk sports show on line i think says hollins will be the first nba coach to be fired.

  • KHuang

    The team doesn’t need more big men or guards.

    It needs to corral Kemba Walker and prevent him from playing loser isoball.

  • KHuang

    The Nets would have to get rid of iso Joe Johnson too, especially since the Nets have long been sick of his selfish play.

  • 1mtoldman

    i agree with u in this sense; ask these two question–what would happen to lins minutes if they get boj and batum is healthy (and eventually mkg is back this year) and lin is not traded but perhaps even more importantly for all parties involved, who else besides lin do the hornets have to trade that they would be willing to trade that the nets would have any interest in?

  • 1mtoldman

    well you’ve always got hope. (in your name).

  • 1mtoldman

    hollins is on the hot seat as i noted above just yesterday or day before major sports talk program says he will be first nba coach to be fired.

  • 1mtoldman

    yer an ugly yearner?

  • 1mtoldman

    there would be no reason to actually get bojo and keep lin tho; then lin’s utility would be pretty much zero. right now he’s basically subbing for hairston and taking minutes that were lambs before they gave up on lamb. (and w batum being out).

    get bojo to replace lamb batum back and mkg eventually and lin becomes entirely redundant.

    he was supposedly brought in (lin) to be back up point guard but the irony is he never gets to be point guard.

    either walker or batum is on the court with lin all the time and after the one game without batum when lin went off since then even now roberts becomes the third point guard (after walker and batum)–

    so if lin is a backup 2/3 with bojo and batum and eventually mkg back well i already said it…..

    more importantly: what else do the hornets have the nets would have interest in that the hornets would be willing to give up.

    the only players the hornets have of any possible use to anyone are jefferson, walker, batum, mkg and lin

    jefferson the nets have no need for, walker batum and mkg are untouchable, that just leaves lin.

    all that being said: i see the whole thing as just rumor, i dont think lin will be traded at all

  • 1mtoldman

    daniels was just temporary fill in cause they give up on lamb. bojo would be replacing the temporary daniels replacemnt of lamb.

    they dont have any respsect of daniels. (hornets).

  • 1mtoldman

    that too. (again lamb is dog housed and they have no respect for daniels).

  • 1mtoldman

    well i think you got one part right: nets will fire hollins regardless.

  • 1mtoldman

    If Joe Johnson doesn’t get moved at the deadline, he’s seen as a prime candidate for a buyout.

    – via Sporting News

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Can you link to this article?…Is it recent…..

    Lin clearly had stated that GSW wanted to sign him but he wanted bigger role.

  • wandertheglobe

    I think more like Brian Roberts & filler for Bojan. He got good size 6’8″ for a SG, similar to Batum.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep this is published earlier this morning. The link is:

    外媒稱勇士有意「哈佛小子」 林書豪恐加盟衛冕軍
    http://www.dongtw.com/nba/nba-news/20160108/000265007.html

  • Thanks to Anli Shin from JLin Garden who had a partial recording of the Q&A session =)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Just finished listening myself. Pretty good but seem like a few words that I wasn’t able to catch despite of relistening. Don’t know that my listening skills are going downhill so badly. Will try to listen again tomorrow when I’m more coherent:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Brent Yen

    I still do not get why ppl say this….I think only Hornets was Lin’s “decision”

  • Some great questions:
    1 What age JLin might retire?
    2 Will JLin become a pastor one day?
    3 How is JLin faith affecting his basketball performance?
    4 How did he stay grounded during Linsanity run?
    5. How does it feel to be Asian in a predominantly African-American/Caucasian sport? (4:30)
    6. Other than Mike D’Antoni, who are 2 other coaches that impacted you in your career?
    7. While he can have great nights (Start, 6 3pters/12asts) or so-so nights (Do Not Start, 4pts/2asts), what are Bible verses to help him through tough times ? (6:15)
    Hornets assistant told them they have to go soon (6:45)

    8. Aside from being a gym rat, what other off-court things does JLin like? (8:15)
    JLin shares embarrassing things
    9. What is the greatest prank you ever pulled? (9:15)

  • sws94

    I don’t either. And the more I read Hornets boards the more this is just a feeling at Lin forums. Basically, this is the way Kemba plays and has played for a long time. It has nothing to do with Lin or anyone else. It’s all Kemba. The good Kemba was earlier in the year when he did it less, probably because Batum did the facilitating. The bad Kemba has resurfaced. Probably because Batum was injured and now sitting.

  • tom

    These scrubs arent gonna be of any use

  • tom

    How so?

  • tom

    Still got a better chance of making the play offs

  • tom

    Jack isnt that bad

  • tom

    He is lol he just didnt wanna do it because he wanted to be able to do more than PnR

  • In light of JLin’s comment of NBA player need to be great at 1 thing & work on weakness not to be a liability, it’s interesting to note that the once 10th draft pick Jimmer Fredette (1 KHuang favorite player) is toiling in the Knicks D-League attempting an NBA comeback.

    This comment is very telling.
    “Jimmer should be able to provide an offensive punch off the bench for an NBA team,” one longtime NBA scout said. “His defense has improved and he has become a better teammate.

    His 38% career 3FGM average in the NBA is not bad but I guess he had defensive issues & bad chemistry with his teammates.

    It’s great to realize that JLin’s strength is not only driving to the rim, PnR but also his ability to connect with teammates plus much improved defense.

    https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/685492740797403137

  • KHuang

    True – but Charlotte needs to replace Lin somehow.

  • KHuang

    It would probably have no impact whatsoever on Lin’s minutes because Lin is the only perimeter player on the Hornets who can protect other players.

  • KHuang

    Not necessarily

  • KHuang

    Walker and Batum are working actively to FREEZE LIN OUT, according to the numbers of how Lin does with and without them.

  • KHuang

    There are tons of NBA players with worse defense than Jimmer Fredette.

    The only reason Jimmer is not in the NBA is because he’s a small white guard perceived as unathletic who’s actually not that small and tested out as being more athletic than most NBA players.

    Also, Jimmer’s problem in Sacramento and NOP was that he OUTPLAYED everyone in front of him when given more than 15 minutes a game.

    If the Knicks took Fredette and started him, it would be JIMMERSANITY that wouldn’t be that far off Linsanity.

  • KHuang

    It’s just standard clueless media inventive wishful thinking, just like the silly rumors about Lin to Chicago for Hinrich that was based on a single fan comment in a Bulls discussion board.

    For REAL rumors, hoopshype and NBA.com are far more accurate.

    Right now the Bogdanovic possiblity is being formally reported by those two sites.

  • Acbc

    While it is true that all elite athletes need to improve, most would rather tweak what they already have and just add little pieces that suits their play. Mostly it’s a mental and emotional barrier that gets in the way of improvements. For many, actually improved aspects of their game never gets used because, they’d immediately under game pressure, revert to what they’ve always done to be “successful”, which may be defined by their own imaginations. For some it’s just getting to be on a roster, others to be a starter, others to be an all star and up. When they’ve reach that goal, most people start to protect instead of pushing further. This is why you see team stars like KW, Melo, etc….mentally refusing to change.

    It takes a certain mindset to be a “process player”. First and foremost, you’d need inordinate amounts of faith in your ability to trust in a process that could make you break through every level of being “successful” and not sit back and dig in at being a star. We have fans that think Lin is already at his limits as a player. Can you imagine the kinds of thoughts he has in his mind, the constant doubts in the guise of “love”?

    A process player is one that goes out each day and reviews what he’s done that’s good and bad and make them BOTH better! Not the mistakes only, but everything better. That’s the true divide for greatness.

    It’s actually fundamentally a religious process common in all faiths. ” be the best you can be…each day and defeat your past self each day”! One day you’ll look up and you’ve won the NBA title or become a great parent. Defeating yourself everyday is the hardest thing you’ll ever do because it never stops. That’s why even when you’ve become that great person, the next day you’ll wake up and ask what can I do to be better.

    One reason Lin keeps improving is that he welcomes that challenge and thrives on it. While most NBA starters tend to be improving consistency and limiting mistakes. Fans get so upset about Lin’s “boneheaded” mistakes, playing out of control, pushing too hard, but in many cases, he’s daring to try to do something that can change the course of a game or to stop an opponent’s run, or simply get the defence to contract and expand and open up lanes. Process players don’t look at failures as definition of who they are, they see it as a lesson to be learned, a calculated risk made, and a timing to be remembered.

    When you look at guys like kW and Jimmer, they’ve held on so tightly to what got them there that they don’t dare to lift one leg to unbalance themselves in order to take a step. They worry so much about falling flat on their face that they are frozen in time.

  • I think he lost confidence in 14-15 season that he hit 18.8% 3FGM

    I’d like to see him come back to the NBA to see if he can be the next JJ Redick

  • DX

    This is a Taiwan website and very short article base on writer’s personal thinking.

  • DX

    Agreed. I can do better.

  • DX

    Me three.

  • blubell
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  • blubell
  • tom

    I dont think they are out to freeze Lin out

  • tom

    they are 15 games below 500 thats big

  • Greg calls it right again
    ” better basketball, ability and decisions should be expected from Kemba Walker and the man who should be controlling him, Steve Clifford.”

    https://twitter.com/Sportige/status/685456623834382336

  • rookie75094

    Do it like the knicks….up to 1 billion dollars… hehe

  • LAJane

    I think you’re generally right about the scouts. It constantly amazes me the limited perspective and maybe even lack of diligence that “professionals” get away with.

  • Rick Johnson

    I guess JLin is above embellishing the contact like Harden: throw back the head and arms up and yelling.

  • blubell

    @LaJane and I will be attending the Clippers game tomorrow and would appreciate advice/tips for arrival time, parking, shoot around, etc from those who have attended games at the Staple Center.
    Thank you in advance!

  • LAJane

    Excellent post. Years ago studying comparative religion I got interested in the Islamic concept of “jihad”. Its arabic meaning is ‘striving, struggling, persevering’. Its original religious intent and meaning was entirely spiritual and had absolutely nothing to do with politics or evangelizing. It meant exactly that INNER struggle to, as you say, “…defeat your past self each day”. In that very particular sense it had the connotation of a “holy war”, an inner developmental one. This is quite difficult simply because it requires persistent attention and courage, as you so well describe. Too much work for most, which is why that meaning gets perverted into something external and its personal aspect gets set aside and even attacked. For some, this is effortful but not the unpleasantness of “work”…it’s fascinating, compelling, empowering. The Lins of the world.

  • 1mtoldman

    some between games positive lin numbers and trends.

    the season thus far in terms of lins minutes/scoring can be divided i beleive roughly thusly:

    oct.: 2 games fit more accurately with the preseason in terms of lins minutes/scoring .

    putting those out of the way then we find progressive month to month improvement in both categories to date to wit:

    nov. 22 minutes/10 points pg

    dec. 29 minutes/13 points pg

    jan. 31 minutes/14 points pg

    the interesting thing is: lin points per minute are consistent over the entire period; ie. each month his points per minute are almost identical. (so much for his “inconsistency”).

    the next thing is: if lins’ current jan points per game were set against season long league-wide #s he would be 15th in the league among points guards. and 15th in the league among shooting guards. (with only 3 or 4 individuals in each category having fewer minutes to produce those numbers than lin.)

    one summary note then would be: should lin be able to continue to get these kinds of minutes one could with some degree of certainty project continued top 10- 20 by position scoring numbers forward.

    additionally and interestingly his minutes per game, 2 pt % 3 pt % effective fg% for the season and his points per game for the month of jan. are pretty much exactly the same as his season numbers with the knicks (the linsanity season).

    and of course mentioned before but finally worth noting here again: currently on a string of 9 consecutive double digit scoring games, only the 4th such of his career and the first since his first season in houston.

  • donsmacau

    Does anyone know how the interviewer prompted the subject of Mike D’Antoni, the video starts after the had already been speaking of MDA?

    Other notable comment was JLIN asked who are 2 coaches who have been most influential apart from D’Antoni and JLIN brought up his High School coach and a middle school coach.

    But did not mention Steve Clifford, the coach who lied when he promised JLIN that the Hornets would have JLIN as the backup point guard to Kemba. JLIN rarely plays point guard behind the superstars.

  • JoeTeam

    guess so, everybody sort of looks odd when they are beyond hope (pun).

  • JoeTeam

    and the anti-Lin posts are matching your curve, an odd inverse correlation.

  • donsmacau

    I’m sorry but regardless of what the literal translation of “jihad” in arabic states, the notion that originally it was some benign religious spiritual struggle is false. Same with the word “Islam” meaning peace.

    Because the Hadiths which illuminate the Quran speak of Jihad nearly 200 times all in the context of warfare – religious warfare against unbelievers. The caliphs til modern times have also used jihad as war against infidels. Of course there were mild periods in Islam where a scholar may have used the more spiritual meaning but infrequently.

  • occupatio

    “additionally and interestingly his minutes per game, 2 pt % 3 pt %
    effective fg% for the season and his points per game for the month of
    jan. are pretty much exactly the same as his season numbers with the
    knicks (the linsanity season).”

    so its taken 3 seasons to get back to %s of the knicks season. thats kinda sad. esp since his 3P% was not notably good to begin with.

  • JoeTeam

  • JoeTeam

    Article about David Lee too … where JLin is at is not at the top of th pecking order, there is still some injustice in how he’s treated by refs and teams, but overall, he’s still on a hopeful trajectory in bball and definitely as a young man.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/david-lee-on-his-boston-benchings—by-no-means-am-i-accepting-193125150.html

  • Uh-Oh

    Have a great time!

  • heart

    Enjoy! Where will you be sitting?

  • Uh-Oh

    Haha. Maybe they thought it will be nice to match the picture.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, to grow, one has to accept at first being a baby, then being a teen getting ordered around, then just an average person. Amadeus the movie: Salieri by F Murray Abraham said, “I am the patron saint of mediocrity …”

    To be nothing and then average means one day one can be great again. That is what life requires of us, to break it down and go for the infinite.

    Another thing here is a rather long but interesting youtube, where in the end, Vsauce connects why the neanderthals went extinct and why mankind continues to solve problems – it is this expansion to the infinite that gives our species a way forward.

    https://youtu.be/ffUnNaQTfZE?t=17m30s

  • JoeTeam

    You are still a JF fan!

  • heart

    @psalm234, since you were at the Q&A session in Phoenix, could you tell us: 1) What prompted Lin to say “D’Atoni, that’s my guy”, at the beginning of the video? 2) Elaborate or continue his answer about issue AA facing today which was cut off in the middle. Thank You.

  • yes, the interviewer mentioned that he just interviewed MDA a few days back and he mentioned how he enjoyed coaching JLin. So the video caught the last part that JLin reciprocated by saying MDA is his guy 😀

    Too bad my video didn’t get saved 🙁 Maybe there will be others

  • 1) yes, the interviewer mentioned that he just interviewed MDA a few days back and he mentioned how he enjoyed coaching JLin. So the video caught the last part that JLin reciprocated by saying MDA is his guy 😀

    2) I think he just expanded that there is a lot of stereotypes that he’d like to show it’s not true. Sorry I don’t quite remember the whole thing as I was preparing for the check presentation.

    Too bad my video didn’t get saved 🙁 Maybe there will be others

  • blubell

    Thanks! The seats are way up there so I’m not sure how much we’ll be able to see. But we’ll report nonetheless 🙂
    We got the tickets for free from @jakey but unfortunately he is not able to attend 🙁

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Thanks for the question.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Thanks for the answer.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    “D’Atoni, that’s my guy”

    Their reunion is just a matter of when.

  • Enjoy it! We want 500+words report =)

    Maybe someone here can give tips on watching shoot-around, getting signatures at the visitors tunnel, etc

  • blubell

    I’m not as articulate as Jane so you should look forward to Jane’s report 😛

  • Love MDA’s answer on Nov 2012 about what made JLin explode during Lakers practice session
    “Tough kid, tough (to read?), unselfish, great teammates, … got overlooked, very athletic, gets better as the game goes on, … very good basketball player”
    https://youtu.be/mDTjCgVGgXo?t=45s

  • donsmacau

    This is the best quote from the above video:

    Reporter:”..there were so few periods that you actually got to run your stuff with guys that made sense in your system…”

    MDA: “…you know what it does, it gave me more confidence as a coach, you waver, you take some hits, you start doubting things but Jeremy put everything back in order and makes me go forward.”

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin needs MDA as much as MDA needs Lin. They both have unfinished business together.

  • Rick Johnson

    Could GSW be looking for JLIn to help their bench? If by Feb 15th Hornets out of contention and know JLin isn’t resigning they may trade him for picks for next year or someone they could use next year or something.

    https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/685551768382521344

    https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/685551997269884929

    https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/685552329114828800

  • JC

    Too bad. Cause Char wont give him up and next year, JLin does not want 15 minutes of playing time. Good to dream but this speculation is a waste of time.

  • awesome!
    If JLin managed to restore MDA’s faith in his own system, Mike knows he needs JLin to bring out the best of his system.

    Love how both gushes about each others’ intelligence

  • Linzen

    OMG! When can we see JLin play for MDA again? When!?!!!!?

  • Rick Johnson

    If Charlotte keeps losing and out of playoff contention they might trade him. They know he is going to opt out of that second year player option.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    If I am not wrong, the best thing about this video was he’s coaching the Lakers at the time.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    15 min with a great chance to win a ring? I’d dream it any day especially nothing special about his current situation.

  • heart

    Still enjoy seeing Jeremy in live action. That’s very nice of @jakey.

  • sws94

    I altered this to maybe get past the filters.

    On the game next Wednesday I really wish Lin was healthy. Don’t know how he’ll be then but I’d just love to see Lin block Teague’s shot just to shut up Dominique Wilkens. I’m going to endure listening to Atlanta’s broadcast in the hope Lin has a good game, zips by Teague and others but at least just gets one good block on Teague. Teague is a very good player but Wilkens’s comments are very annoying and he’s so persistent and repetitive about “Lin can’t guard Teague” it’s disgusting.

    Come to think of it, even if Lin blocks Teague Wilkens would go, Teague didn’t get his usual elevation so Lin got lucky. No hope for someone like Wilkins. Even if Lin scores 30 Wilkens would say it was because the defense didn’t clamp down on him.

  • Linzen

    Yeah, I vote 2 ways each day too.
    That’s why I think these numbers are funky… :((((

  • donsmacau

    My other favorite quote from D’Antoni back with Knicks : ” [JLIN] plays point guard with a rhyme and a reason”.

    I remember at the time hearing that and thinking, If I were the other point guards on that team (or who have played for MDA) what am I thinking that D’Antoni thinks about me? … that I play point guard with no rhyme and no reason? haha

  • JoeTeam

    GSW are juggling their salary caps for next year. Not sure there is a place for JLin but would love to see it for the ring. And JLin can help seal GSW as a dynasty like LAL or CHI. Not sure he will love the low mins, but he will love being in the Bay, being with a team oriented style, and winning.

  • 1mtoldman

    the point you reference was not my primary point hence “addtionally”..and your comment “taken 3 seasons to get back to”.. would be inaccurate.

    various numbers inbetween would go beyond the new york numbers.

    my purpose in adding this illustration was to suggest that lins time in new york is considered “linsane” and now not but in several signficant categories seasonally and currently his numbers now are equal to what they were then.

    nothing sad about that.

  • 1mtoldman

    objection. calls for WILD speculation. the nets rumor at least was based on a somewhat confirmed expressed interest from the hornets in acquiring bojo.

    i haven’t seen anything to approach that level of any gsw similar inquiry from gsw about lin.

  • TTNN

    if he want to be in GSW, he would be there this summer already.

    If GSW get rid of Livingston, and have a three guard rotation of Curry/Thompson/Lin, that will be fun. Unfortunately, Livingston still have some years on his contract.

  • TTNN

    I don’t think Hornets are that interested in picks. they historically don’t draft well, so they value those picks less. And for Lin’s price, hard to get somebody useful there.

  • Rick Johnson

    But if by Feb 18 the Hornets playing Kemba ISO-ball are out of the playoff running and they know JLin will walk after this season what do they have to lose?

  • 1mtoldman

    its fairly common for home team broadcasters to say something along those lines; wilkens isn’t the only one to say “lin can’t guard…(whoever)”

    on the other hand the phnx announcers in the first quarter when lin was dominating where highly complimentary of lin more so than his own broadcasters have been in the past (and that is also not uncommon).

    i guess tho maybe among lin fans wilkens is the most famous for this.

  • TTNN

    they would think they will have MKG back and they might still have a run out of them. To trade Lin you might end up with some unwanted salary that take up a player space. If you are not gain anything, why do it? they are not going to do it for Lin.

  • 1mtoldman

    i think it is possible if lins minutes have declined. if they are what they have been for the month of jan and really since when is it i believe the 5th of dec. then no they wouldn’t consider moving him but if he has become as extraneous to the team as he was in nov. i think yes possible.

    and mostly that (i believe) woud be determined by who else (example bojo) they mite bring in previously. tho it has been suggested lins minutes would not decline with that addition i believe they would, that lins addtional minutes have primarily been taken from lamb who fell out of favor and that if bojo was brought in and retook those minutes they would fall from lin’s.

    of course all this is just speculation.

  • John Focker

    This is nothing compared to running Nokia, once the world’s largest cellphone manufacturer, into the ground and still get a high paying job at Microsoft afterwards.

  • 1mtoldman

    i dont feel its in lins interest to be traded mid season would just further cement an image as an Ish smith type journeyman.

    and as i have (largely unsuccessfully it seems) attempted to point out in various posts lin’s current situation as it has evolved for him at present, ie. progressively thru the season and especially within the last 16 games or so and certainly the month of jan have produced lin production on par with some of the best of his career. a favorable example to present as testament to his utility to other teams this off season.

  • 1mtoldman

    gee the last thing i want to do is get into a debate about religion or politics here but just to cast a vote; i cast with l.a. jane here.

    my understanding of religious history would support her view rather than yours.

    and thats all id have to say about that.

  • JoeTeam

    gsw were interested in JLin before they signed Shaun, before LAL, but at that time if you recall, Rox were holding on hard to JLin and so they went with other options that ended up with Shaun. Then Bosh happened, and JLin was released into Ronin-sphere.

  • Rick Johnson

    I didn’t see any rumors before Charlotte happened either. So lack of rumors doesn’t mean anything.

  • yeah, I listened to him once and got really agitated with such unprofessionalism.
    He wasn’t announcing, more like being a taunting bully.

    Niq and other haters are not worth our time. When the time is right, the haters will be silenced with JLin’s on-court performance

  • 1mtoldman

    elliott williams who was originally rumored to be signing with the hornets and then rumored to be signing with the grizzlies has actually signed with the grizzlies. on a 10 day contract. as rumored.

    i beleive this rumor appeared only for the purpose melody finding out what a 10 day contract means (as to who elliott williams is, that’s something we will probably never know).

  • rookie75094

    F!!!! niq… hehe

  • sws94

    psalm234, I know this intellectually. And he’s not. But Lin doing well while he announces would be sweet. He bugs me more than Clyde Drexler. Clyde was more stupid, he’s trash talking and bullying.

  • sws94

    I’ve found many of them backing off from than notion now. No one is as bad as Nique that I’ve listened to.

  • blubell

    Dominique seems to be the worst of them all. Stacy King was bad too but now compliments Jeremy more than not.

  • blubell

    I’ll probably get escorted out of the arena if I did that tho… lol

  • JoeTeam

    and Shaun is really playing well this year. He can’t change the mojo of the team like JLin can, but he can do great stops and keep the momentum from fading. What I like about JLin with GSW would be – he can help the 2nd unit accelerate or change a downward mojo. This year we don’t see many cases where it’s needed, but think of it this way … at some point, nobody cares about stats for Curry and KT, so they will want Curry, KT, Bogut, DGreen, to have many games where they can rest in the 4th. So far, Curry, KT, DGreen have had to come out in the endgame.

    This endgame need is bad for GSW, because:

    1. Bogut was hurt 2 yrs ago going into the playoffs playing extra mins when MJ stated he was on minutes restriction.

    2. KT was hurt with ankle sprain in the closing minutes earlier this season.

    3. Curry coming back in late with that shin bruise… he was knocked last game through contact with Hibbert iirc. So, if they lose Curry for a dozen games, the dynasty is at risk.

    So, I see JLin being able to help GSW. Just a fan of both.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Like Lin shut up this guy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obi362u6jHQ

  • Rick Johnson

    Charlotte Hornets PR‏@HornetsPR

    INJURY REPORT: @hornets Nic Batum (R toe sprain) is QUESTIONABLE. Al Jefferson (knee) & MKG (shoulder) are OUT at @LAClippers tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/685589523628175361

  • wu kong

    It is entertainment… I am sad that there are so many people entertained by this… but that is all it is. This has nothing to do with intellectual discourse. Sadly this ‘entertainment’ is what passed for even news these days.

  • CJSHYY

    Good. Lin is no longer in injury list. Lamb too? I guess Batum very likely will play tomorrow bc Cliff can’t get one more L…..

  • rookie75094

    Hopefully Jlin is fully heal and not because hornets is desperate to play him

  • heart

    Exactly!

  • Acbc

    Every time I listen to him trash talk Lin, I just try to repeat to myself his name “Dom-niq, Dom-niq, Dom-niq….dum niq!” Yeah that’s it “Dum niq” is his real name.

  • lol

  • yeah, Niq just made himself look foolish with his hatred.
    I remember a non Lin fan asked what Lin did to him, maybe stole his lunch money or something 😀

  • I think the In-N-Out did the trick.

    More power to In-N-Out! lol

  • Arsenium12 .

    So, Elliot Williams is going to the Grizzlies and Ryan Hollins is being released to make room for him.

    Hollins is the guy who kicked Jeremy during a Rockets – Clippers game (Feb 13, 2013). This is from the LA Times :

    “After snatching the ball from Hollins during the second quarter of Wednesday night’s game at Staples Center, Lin was fouled by Clippers forward Lamar Odom. As he was falling to the floor, Lin was then kicked in the stomach by Hollins, who immediately raised both hands in an attempt somehow to prove his innocence … . Oddly enough, the refs didn’t fall for it and called a flagrant 1 on Hollins.”
    __________
    https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/685181589966336000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • JoeTeam

    wouldn’t that be an adventure lol (after JLin sits, of course – you wouldn’t mind missing the ISO end maybe).

  • CJSHYY

    I think he’s OK now otherwise he will be on the injury list.

  • 1mtoldman

    oh cliff will get a lot more than one more L, i assure you.

  • heart

    Didn’t he also step on Lin’s leg? That guy, Ryan Hollins, was acting thuggish against Lin. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Zu-RaPqgc

  • 1mtoldman

    yeah someone said thats not healthy but you can’t be healthy without being happy and lin said he went to eat burger when he is unhappy; in the photo then he is happy seeing the burger, hence happy and thus permitting healthy again.

  • 1mtoldman

    info-tainment.

  • heart

    Yea, I saw that and was questioning myself. If he’s not happy w/the current ‘losing’ situation and his own injury and all…

  • gum

    Hollins should have been kicked out of NBA at that time but it is never too late!

  • heart

    What also upset me at the time was that McHale didn’t stand up for Lin after witnessed such assault on the court? It was so blatant that refs had to act! Lin was not as vocal as now. Now Lin has to stand up for himself if he gets that kind of assault!

  • Yascar

    Oh wow have a great time!

  • blubell

    You know it’s bad when a Hawks fan who was not a Lin fan says that.

  • blubell

    Clippers played really dirty in that game. Jeremy was kicked, stepped on, you name it.

  • gum

    I feel so glad McHail is no longer with the Rockets. I always thought he was not the man of principle and dignity. Jeremy endured a lot under this coach, for sure.

  • blubell

    It wasn’t just McHale. His teammates weren’t all that vocal either.

  • Yascar

    What goes around finally came around. That man does not deserve to be in the NBA or any other league.

  • heart

    Very true.

  • zxcvb

    Lin has already roasted the Hawks and Teague repeateadly, even with the Lakers! Wilkens will bash Lin no matter what. Lin could play PG and drop 30 and ‘Nique would say he “got lucky” or that the Hawks were “tired.”

    Long story short: just laugh off the racists. They never change.

  • zxcvb

    If Brett Brown somehow keeps his job in Philly, I could see MDA and Lin reuniting in Brooklyn next season.

    Hollins and King are lame ducks and the Nets have no 1st rd draft picks until 2019 (can’t tank). No good trade assets either. Brooklyn has been after Lin twice before but King wanted to stick with D-Will.

  • Rick Johnson

    Charlotte HornetsVerified account
    ‏@hornets
    Practice in LA ??
    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/685609150722736128

  • tom

    Wilkins is irrelevant like, who cares lol
    I like Clyde he was such a good player still use him a lot in 2k
    but they dont seem to like Lin a lot

  • yes, there are reasons why Clippers are hated in the NBA

    From the physical specimen that is Blake Griffin flopping, to the out-of-sight trickery from Chris Paul that borders on dirty, to Doc Rivers’ incessant need to work the refs, the Clippers bother just about everybody.

    <a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2600907-why-everyone-in-the-nba-hates-the-clippers&quot;“Why Everyone in the NBA Hates the Los Angeles Clippers”

  • JoeTeam

    Just a bit on the post game vid in PHX … I love JLin’s tone. Very different than the post-game talks at GSW his first yr at Rox. He’s low key, fluid, and open, like at the Jubilee event that BB posted before.

    So nice to see him getting free of the bball media machine.

    Thanks! everyone. The tone is very cool.

  • That’s a real possibility if the Nets plan to fire Hollins.
    I mean what better way to stick it to the Knicks by having MDA & Linsanity happen in Brooklyn Nets =)

  • JoeTeam

    Per JLin in that interview:

    Biggest talent = playmaking. Yep. Full marks. Competitive advantage. Calling all fans, focus on what he says about himself that is true to your observation.

    Biggest things facing Asian Americans: perceptions of us and self perceptions… calling all fans rise up and cheer our playa lol …

  • Acbc

    The evil is not in the word, it’s in the human misuse of the words. Any religion has experienced organizations turn words, verses, passages and use it to control weak minded believers into doing their misdeeds. No religion is innocent of this becuase intrinsically, if you can rule their minds, you can get them to do the ugliest things. The Christians had their crusades too.

  • donsmacau

    Crusades ended 1000 years ago. Islam’s crusades continue every year in THIS Century.

    The ideas of the religion matters, please look up Jainism and explain how a fundamentalist Jain could get a weak minded Jain believer to do misdeeds.

  • donsmacau

    Brett Brown despite getting an extension might not last another 18 months.

    Attraction of Sixers is precisely that Head of Basketball Ops, Colangelo and D’Antoni are close friends. After MDA at Knicks, every coach and organization from Mike Woodson/NY to Clifford/CHA has not lived up to promises made on how they would use JLIN.

    If MDA were to move to Brooklyn, he would have no power and while the Nets Russian owner might be trustworthy, it’s unlikely. If JLIN were to go to Sixers, MDA and Colangelo could promise JLIN a starting Point Guard job — no other NBA team would/could do that.

  • rookie75094

    Can’t expect haters to have Jlin back…more like stabbing his back… F all them racist haters.

  • JoeTeam

    it’s good that some people never forget:

    https://youtu.be/wRnSnfiUI54?t=16s

  • rookie75094

    Jlin with MDA in philly is a match made in basketball heaven…but Brooklyn could be basketball redemption for Jlin…just imagine jimmy dolan have to put up with Linsanity in Brooklyn. ..oh yeah.

  • John Focker

    More specifically, stick it to Dolan and Melo.

  • John Focker

    Karma worked its way, and this is Hollins’ turn.

  • John Focker

    McHale was as much a puppet as BS is, they’re ultimately irrelevant and inconsequential. That being said, I wish BS stays in LA forever for that very reason.

  • John Focker

    While speaking of Khan, y’all should definitely check this one out:

  • blubell

    We need to come up with a nick name for you too, Joe 🙂

  • rookie75094

    Joe “cool”

  • JoeTeam

    ROTFL ! very good share!

  • JoeTeam

    oh oh, I’m in trouble … ah well, let it pass, life is good.

  • webattorney

    It’s different with Dominique. He’s not just criticizing or being snide about it; he openly hates Lin. He’s the Clutch of announcers. I don’t mind at all if someone criticizes Lin’s BB plays in the same manner as the announcer criticizes other players’ bad plays or skills, but Dominique seems to take delight in cutting down Lin. That’s totally unprofessional of the dumbo.

  • JoeTeam

    Oops, I’m not cool enough, self perception thing lol.

    That would be Snoopy from my gen. I understand he’s been out of favor recently, with pundits saying he’s in his own world fighting the Red Baron but now the heirs are trying to make a Peanuts resurgence, so they are doing PR on Snoopy again.

  • blubell

    Hmmm… JoeTroublemaker LOL
    You call me BB and I’ll call you JT?

  • yup, that’ll be very accurate!

  • JoeTeam

    As you like, I’m aok anyway because it’s about the heart of things I’m striving for. I just mean to be appreciative of all that you do to keep things moving here it’s a good place.

    I went on the other site recently and I really like Ten Ten and some others, but then I read some dude threatening another with physical harm, and the same ol’ stuff about Lin needs to do this or that to appease the poster’s ego, and it was demoralizing to say the least. Then I read GDLA say we are a bunch of do gooders and Christians here, and good for some straddlers to say they like this site but were not Christian.

    Anyway, all that is to say it’s nice, this psalm vision to have a positive place, and thanks to you. That’s what I mean with I say BB or BB8, the warmth and appreciation.

  • heart

    Appreciate your thoughts.

  • JoeTeam

    how long will Melo stay in NY? I would think Dolan can come back, it’s Melo that is fading and he will be holding onto it more. He never had his finger on the brass ring lol, or better yet, with Lin he had it but he let it go.

  • John Focker

    Melo gave up on the ring long ago, it’s the greens that he’s chasing, and he’s pretty successful.

  • JoeTeam

    ah and that NYC lifestyle I get it – it’s pretty high end.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Hornets just need Ed Davis or Tyson Chandler who can catch the ball down low and stuff it home often enough.

  • John Focker

    Getting steamy here…

  • lol

  • John Focker

    Unfortunately this is the trend in the league, chase the easy and quick buck and flair instead of working hard for the ever elusive trophy.

  • blubell

    Oh, I don’t mind you calling me BB at all, Joe. I was just teasing you 🙂
    My favorite parts were scene with BB8, who is loyal and efficient. So I know you meant it well and with love. You are one of my favorite posters here!

  • spiderman

    Ten Ten offers some great insights there…. He should post here too

  • occupatio

    Call me baby…

  • rookie75094

    Babyback………….ribs

  • blubell

    This is crazy. I just met you. Call me maybe. lol

  • blubell

    Just re-posting my earlier post…

    @LAJane and I will be attending the Clippers game tomorrow and would appreciate advice/tips for arrival time, parking, shoot around, etc from those who have attended games at the Staple Center.
    Thank you in advance!”

  • spiderman

    You’ve seen the new movie, right?

    Peanuts is cool

  • GoJLin!

    If JLIN continue to get these kinds of minutes, the result is encouraged; out of 33 games Lin played this season, his current stat is 12.0 pts,3.1 asts,3.2 Reb, 0.7 STL, & 0.7 BS with 43.0% FGM-A, 32.7% 3PM-A, & 77.1% FTM. But when Lin play >25 min (20 games), he averaged 14.4 Pts & 3.3 Asst; when Lin play >30 min (8 games), he averaged 16.4 Pts & 3.5 Asts. Hope continue this train, Lin will get better stats for his next contract. Wish JLIN stay Healthy & be happy!

  • LAJane

    Yikes…in the hot seat now ;p We’ll put forth our best duo effort!

  • LinMad

    Nic injured his toe again today…

  • GoJLin!

    BB is cute; sounds like a happy roadrunner my husband & I met at Big Bend National Park!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Can’t wait to read your report. Don’t think I will even have any chance to look at the stat until the game is all over hours later:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW really??? How do you know?

  • John Focker

    A Google search yielded various reports.

    Here’s Yahoo! Sports: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4487/

    “Nicolas Batum (toe) is questionable to play against the Clippers on Saturday.
    8 hours ago Rotoworld “

  • LinMad

    Second all star returns. Lin is still at #8. Nic Batum is not in top 10 anymore. Reggie Jackson took his spot.

    Guards

    1 Dwyane Wade (Mia) 562,558
    2 Kyrie Irving (Cle) 271,094
    3 Kyle Lowry (Tor) 242,276
    4 Jimmy Butler (Chi) 220,429
    5 John Wall (Was) 207,274
    6 DeMar DeRozan (Tor) 170,539
    7 Derrick Rose (Chi) 159,787
    8 Jeremy Lin (Cha) 122,988
    9 Isaiah Thomas (Bos) 87,452
    10 Reggie Jackson (Det) 44,525

  • LinMad

    Cliff’s practice interview today on hornets.com but they are not sure if he can play tomorrow.

  • LinMad

    In Lin’s Q&A at Phoenix, did he name OKC as one of the top 3 teams in the West? OKC is a Eastern team.

  • Acbc

    Knowing how bad his ankles are, I’d say he plays soccer running around like c3p0. But he can sure talk a good game in a lot of alien languages. Lol

  • John Focker

    Totally rigged, Jeremy’s China votes alone would’ve topped Wade’s.

  • Dorothy

    Exactly. Especially this year they can vote via WeiBo and QQ. There is absolutely NO WAY Lin has only 123K votes. I almost feel no point to keep voting for Lin since NBA is going to rigged it anyway…

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    JLin’s right ankle is iced after practice. Precaution measure???!!!!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    BTW, UCLA was one of Lin’s school choice.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Absolutely yes. If he’s hurt he wouldn’t be around.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    We know but the coach lied to him. Hence he ended with going to Harvard.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    ok. Thanks to confirm.

  • heart

    His right ankle still wraps in ice. Hope it’s ok for tomorrow. Pray that Lin heals quickly.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They all either lied or ignored Lin. Now we all know God has a plan.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    NBA dirty deed really “kills” the essence of sportmanship.

  • kauaiblue

    Hatvard better… he he…

  • sport

    Is that why Hornets are looking to trade for another player?

  • blubell

    Haha. Thanks. I was waiting for your input.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I don’t know why you guys care so much about having Lin play in an all-star game in which he shouldn’t be playing in.

    Lin is not playing like an all-star at the current moment…I frankly hope some of those China fan are truly voting for other players because Lin should not be in this game…Maybe they indeed have a lot of knowledge of who is deserving and who isn’t…Fact is Lin hasn’t done enough to play in an all-star.

  • aras

    Lin being in the all star would hurt his career.

  • sport

    I didn’t know Colangelo and MDA are close friends that will make things even better because MDA always had to fight with the front office. Now MDA can focus more on basketball instead of dealing with politics (Knicks & Lakers)

  • sport

    Sorry but when will it be Walker’s turn to be on that list? Notice how Batum and Al were 2 of the 3 starting players Cliff ran the offense with and now both are down. Only way Lin gets to lead the team is if Walker is out temporarily.

  • Dorothy

    It is for which players we want to see in the all-star game. It is a popularity contest.

  • Dorothy

    Huh? Please do not bother to reply.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    OK. Thanks for the info. Don’t listen to Cliff anymore.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    What a dedicated JLin’s fan artist:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Same mind. I’d better deleted mine then:-)

  • wu kong

    then you should not vote for him. but I will continue. It is a popularity contest. good lord Kobe is getting voted in and what you think he is ‘all star material’ right now??

  • 1mtoldman

    la lin fans wake up and a little help here; you should never make a lady have to ask twice.

  • DX

    Very good work!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    You nail it!!!!!!!!!

  • tom

    Don’t think so
    Chinese fans aren’t as crazy about Lin as they were about Yao
    If Lin wasn’t Asian, he still wouldn’t even make top 10 so it still shows his popularity in China

  • tom

    He got trashed too for getting voted the last 2 years

  • 1mtoldman

    when i tried to get people from there to come over here i got banned over there (weird because i wasn’t posting there anyway, just only to do that).

    why are we talking about that site anyway? to me its like talking about clutchfans.

  • 1mtoldman

    as far as im concerned shes “our bluebell”.

  • tom

    Other players will hate him more
    and people won’t take asian fans seriously anymore

  • 1mtoldman

    kobe is not only getting voted in he is getting way more votes than anyone else; so yes of course its a fan favorite thing: its almost irrelevant to current perfromance (as kobe is by all statistical accounts one of a handfull of the worst full time players in the league now).

  • DX

    I have followed Lin’s WeiBo and WeChat. He doesn’t ask fans voting for him. If he did, there will be huge numbers vote.

  • 1mtoldman

    that.

  • blubell

    Awwe, thanks, you’re such a gentleman 🙂
    It’s ok we can just wing it. Not a big problem.

  • LinJa

    My burning emotions predicts jlin will go linsane with 20pt+ 5 ast+ next game … Pure gut feeling! Go jlin!!!

  • tom

    Agreed.
    We should just let Lin play without any distraction

  • sws94

    In all fairness, and I don’t like Kobe or his game much, he’s in there for lifetime achievement in the NBA. Wade is almost the same thing. He’s not playing on the level he did when he was a number 1 all-star 2 guard.

  • blubell

    I hope to witness that live tomorrow 🙂

  • 1mtoldman

    knicks could be good now if they would do as one writer suggested and get rid of melo and build around porzingis (porzingod as his fans call him). and as all new york fans keep crying for: get a point guard.

    could have beat spurs in sa. tonite but melo isod himself into a triple team on the last possesion down one and then had to toss to a closely guarded teammate way in the corner to try a desperation 3.

    kp with 28 and i think 11 2nite. knicks have certainly retooled to credibility faster than the lakers who have to wait as kupchak admitted for the kobe farewell train to complete its tour before they can go ahead as a franchise.

  • sws94

    It’s how you view it. If it is popularity, then fans should vote for who they like. If it is that he’s played like an all-star, then not for this season. He hasn’t been an all-star for many seasons to get a “default” one either. My understanding is those voting for him are doing it out of popularity.

  • sws94

    That’s possible. He was on his way to a high 20 point game if he had sustained what he did in the first quarter. His ankle gave out and others tried to take over the scoring.

  • John Focker

    1) All-Star isn’t merit-based, it’s popularity contest. Otherwise Kobe wouldn’t even crack top 10 this year.
    2) Whether we want Lin in the ASG and and the league rigging votes are two separate issues.

    For the record, I don’t give a cr*p about ASG as I haven’t watched in over 15 years. What bothers me is the way the league short changes Lin in so many ways, from refs to stats to voting…

  • wu kong

    it is just about who do you want to see play. I personally want to see JLin. so that is my vote. EOM

  • tom

    Usually the players who get voted in are well deserving
    You are popular because you play well
    and only 10 players get voted in
    rest are up to the coaches
    so its really whos deserving
    Even my man Yao wasnt deserving some of the years

  • wu kong

    then it is your right to NOT vote for JLin. I will keep voting how I please. free country.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Kobe vote is for what he’s done during his entire career…But I agree that he shouldn’t be in it based on his current statistics…but at least Kobe has had an all-of-fame career, unlike Jeremy…Kobe is arguably a top 10 NBA player of all-time..Lin will probably never come near Kobe’s accomplishment, and that’s coming from a guy that doesn’t like Kobe at all.

    There’s absolutely no case to have Lin play in this game..Other players would hate Lin for even being there…I don’t understand why Lin fan would want to put him in such an uncomfortable environment where people would look at him in total hatred because he kept more deserving players out.

    I do believe that if Lin were to miraculously be voted in, he would must likely withdraw himself out so that he doesn’t have to face the real all-stars players who probably would make him feel like he doesn’t belong alongside them.

  • John Focker

    That the ASG is merit-based is a myth, even the league itself promotes it as popularity contest.

  • Arsenium12 .

    XU Weixin is an artist and professor at Renmin University, in China. He has had shows at a locations in the States such as the University of Michigan. They described him as “one of the foremost portrait artists in contemporary China.” He is “well known for his black-and-white portraits of historical figures.”

    See : http://events.umich.edu/event/8157

    Here is an example of his work.
    __________

  • tom

    Lin usually goes off when I’m out missing the game
    I’ll try to miss the game for you tm lol

  • John Focker

    In all fairness Jeremy Lin gets trashed even for breathing among certain circles.

  • sws94

    I’m not voting for him. I think all-stars should be for all-stars in the 4 major sports. Lin should relax himself and prepare for coming back strong post -ASB as he usually does.

  • tom

    I never told you not to

  • 1mtoldman

    warriors already put up 101 on portland with 2 minutes left in the 3rd.

  • tom

    what do you mean by merit based

  • sws94

    I think so to. Thank the fans but withdraw himself.

  • John Focker

    Vote for current-season performance, as opposed to fame, status and/or PAST achievement.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Exactly..I also don’t like Kobe, but he’s arguably a top 10 player of all-time…His votes are for his career accomplishment.

    On the other hand, Lin has no case to make for himself….With the exception of Linsanity year which was 2 months, you can’t really make a case for Lin at all.

    Lin best year was 13ppg and 6 assist..not bad at all…but still not all-star numbers….

    Lin would need to be at 15-17ppg and at least 7-8 assist…Anyone who gets in with 12ppg and 3 assist would get serious backlash…I seriously don’t understand why Lin fan would want to put him in such a difficult situation where he would have to explain how did he made it to the all-star with such statistics.

  • Charlie Sun

    What’s the correlation between JLin’s hair and team wins? I feel like there’s something there…

    In all seriousness, looking back now, should JLin have signed with the Mavericks? He would have been the starter. Yes, he would not have been paid. But if this team’s bigs are not a good fit for JLin and KW takes away his touches… then what was accomplished going here?

  • John Focker

    Haven’t been there in a looooong time. My red line was the un-moderated racist remarks.

    Can’t give @psalm234 enough credit for having the foresight of creating a safe haven for civilized Lin fans.

  • spiderman

    He gave him curly hair ! Lol

  • tom

    People need to understand
    Kobe getting voted in is different from Lin getting voted in
    He still hasn’t got enough accolades to be voted in no matter what
    It is popularity contest but to a certain degree

  • John Focker

    With Kemba’s matador D, it’s very unlikely that he gets injured. He’s only in the game to shoot, not to sacrifice his body for the team. Jeremy learned some of his good D from Jared Jeffries, whereas Kemba learned Harden D.

  • tom

    its the combination of all if those

  • JoeTeam

    baby …

  • JoeTeam

    I think so, he’s finger coach and a bball brain. Low key.

  • JoeTeam

    the culture there is definitely allowed, and I would think the more arguments, the more page views etc.

  • Uh-Oh

    Are you serious? Lol.
    Do you think other players will love him more if he is not in all star?
    Last year he is not in the all star, does that change anything?
    Do you think people will take you seriously if he is not in all star?
    Do you really care what other strangers look at you?
    Are you really that worry about people not taking you seriously as an Asian fan?

  • JoeTeam

    yes, me too, maybe first time this season or 2x. I did see some good posts there and saw Ten Ten so anyway, this is a cool place so here I am.

  • JoeTeam

    Cool. Loyal, efficient, and fast! Thanks for the fav, I will try to live up to it sis.

    BB8 then ha ha. I like it too, and I think I’m going to buy one for my son but I think I’ll wait until I make some dosh. I bet they will be collector toys in 30 yrs. So buy 2, one to sell in 30 yrs and one to play with all year until it breaks.

  • It’s hard to speculate what went wrong with the Mavs negotiation when JLin team decided it was not the best alternative in the off-season. I remember 1 Mavs fan blamed JLin for not coming there on Facebook and JLin responded by saying, “Don’t believe things that you read on the Internet” so there’s definitely more background story not being told to the general public.

    So far we only knew JLin team declined the MEM option that offer 3-yr contract because he’ll be tied down there with low-contract as a backup PG in a slow-pace system in his peak years 27-30 yrs old. We don’t know what was offered to JLin by the Mavs.

    It’s interesting to note that Barea was going to be signed with $2.8 M room exception for 2 yrs but then signed $16M/4yr contract once Deandre Jordan went back to the Clippers.

    Is it possible that JLin didn’t want a low offer for 3-4 years? Maybe or maybe not.

    But I trust JLin team made the best decision at the time to go to the Hornets. It’s still not over yet. JLin can still have opportunities in the next 57 games and/or the playoff games to increase his market value to find a better deal next season.

  • JoeTeam

    Good posts, yep behind the scenes action is hard to guess.

  • JoeTeam

    They got a good big.

  • JoeTeam

    The refs decided to slow him down.

  • JoeTeam

    We’re gonna need a game dossier if you are taking the night off.

  • John Focker

    Yeah, it’s never a 100% unless it comes straight from the dragon’s mouth. (Jeremy’s Chinese Zodiac is Dragon)

  • JoeTeam

    Wooden.

  • John Focker

    POIDH.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That’s so true. That’s why I don’t bother to speculate on which and what.

  • JoeTeam

    Chinese fans from China are no different than u.s. fans. They love the superstars. Lin gets his own lane that he does not get here.

  • JoeTeam

    RICE that thang!

  • JoeTeam

    I’m not sure it’s rigged, maybe China fans are sort of busy with the stock market or some other thing. I haven’t lived there, but I would think NBA is a pastime for them like Champions League, so maybe they are waiting until Linsanity 3.0 to get involved. I mean, brands are so popular in China NBA has to do a bit of selling to get JLin China fans back on the hunt.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, Kobe getting voted in is why I don’t pay attention to ASG except for it being a nice break for people. When obvious non-deserving players are no longer at the ASG, then I’m Lin!

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    C3PO … not my guy. He’s kind of you fussy. Hmmm … I want to be Charlie Brown, yes.

  • JoeTeam

    well, 30×15=450. There’s bound to be many there who are in it for the wrong reasons. I bet most of the journeymen are good guys who just want to make a living and ball.

  • tom

    nope im not worried cuz im not voting
    it is what it is
    he doesnt make it thinhs will stay where they are
    if he does make it he wil be hated

  • heart

    Rice works?

  • blubell

    Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation

  • JoeTeam

    Hey blubell … here’s a tip for tomorrow night … you and LA Jane can buy 2 power balls, win the lotto!

  • heart

    Thanks.

  • blubell

    Wow. Still no winner? Never bought lotto before… well, only as a group at work. Isn’t it over $500M now?

  • Maybe we can buy as a group then we buy a team to hire both JLin and MDA 😀

  • blubell

    I think we need more than $500M to buy a team but I like where you’re going with this. It’s a start. Haha.

  • Nice gut feeling!
    I think the 13pts quarter is also a preview so I’d go with 21pts 3asts as the high ceiling since the bigs still haven’t woken up yet =)

  • yeah, after tax it will be even lower so minority ownership then =)
    76ers is going to be on sale, I heard LOL

  • blubell

    I’ll plaster the Clippers game thread with pics! LOL

  • Happy people around JLin at UCLA today.
    This guy has a knack of making people feel good around him!

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/685651481861595137

  • JoeTeam

    Joe Lacob I thin only put up $25m. The rest was his syndicate. You gonna lead it if you win? ha ha.

  • JoeTeam

    we can share 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    you got until 5 or 6pm.

  • yeah, we’ll make it work ..haha

  • JoeTeam

    I would think right now he needs lots of elevation. Prob past elevation stage.

    Oh, and if you ever get hurt on a joint, a bag of frozen peas or corn works great.

  • JoeTeam
  • Best Bargain Contract for the Hornets is none other than JLin

    https://twitter.com/HoopsHabit/status/685264700603416576

  • blubell

    Ok so pay me via paypal and I’ll buy the lotto… that is if you trust me. lol.

  • Check out the last paragraph

    Charlotte Hornets: Jeremy Lin

    2015-16 Salary: $2.1 million
    2016-17 Salary: $2.2 million (player option)

    Honorable Mention: Kemba Walker

    We’re going to cheat a little bit here, which might feel a tad egregious for the Kemba Walker fans who’d point out that the Charlotte Hornets‘ starting point guard is posting a career best shooting line of .435/.354/.849 on a reasonable $12 million salary. But even if Jeremy Lin has a player option for next season, how could we NOT go with the guy having major bench impact while playing on a $2 million salary?

    Try as he (and his ever-changing, always entertaining hairstyles) might, Lin hasn’t quite reached peak levels of Linsanity in Charlotte. But he’s still averaging 12.0 points, 3.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 26.1 minutes per game, and his Per 36 Minutes numbers are as good as they’ve been since his breakout season in New York.

    Those pining for Lin to take over the starting job should probably pump the brakes, but he’s playing his way into a nice new contract this summer. Here’s hoping this mutually beneficial fit lasts past this season if he opts out and becomes able to sign with anyone.

  • yes, yes.. let’s get the contract ready
    I’ll search for free template tomorrow LOL

    We should also offer JLin part ownership so he feels part of the group 😀

  • LAJane

    From your mouth to God’s ears, as the saying goes 🙂

  • LinJa

    Linsanity is due! He will get this epic game

  • John Focker

    I’d expect nothing less! 🙂

  • John Focker

    A “reasonable” 12M doesn’t sound as such when Curry only gets 11.37M.

  • John Focker

    A cool 800M. Too bad it still ain’t enough to buy us an NBA team and let Lin run it.

  • John Focker

    There lies the problem. Many good ballers become journeymen, while greedy “volume shooters” seeking money and fame are coddled and rewarded by the league, and become rich superstars.

  • John Focker

    Hardly true. Additionally, fancy =/= effective. Jason “White Chocolate” Williams was plenty fancy, but it led him nowhere.

  • Good contrast with Curry.

    Perhaps they should really take into account $M/# of wins, $M/Net Rating/Min to measure how good is the bargain for a player.

    But Curry, Kemba, Harden get paid by their scoring ability; hopefully next off-season JLin will add more arsenal to his scoring skills. NBA definitely rewards scoring as #1 factor to get paid.

    First thing first, reunite with MDA :] Everything will fall into place

  • LinJa

    Kemba is bad, the NBA thinks he’s an awesome player worthy of praise, yet is an avg guard compared to Lin. Kemba only looks fancier on offense , meanwhile lacking in standard NBA de wife schemes and also linsanity screen plan thst result in bunch of points

  • Briiick

    I got a feeling that Mavs managed to have a very small cap room left before even working on an offer for Lin. I viewed it as an insult to Lin regardless any informal agreement between them.

  • DaBoss

    Hey blubell! I usually park at El Cholo restaurant on S. Flower St. – close enough of a walk to Staples (about 5minutes) and you can get out easily enough onto Flower St. rather than Figueroa St. (which can be a pain with heavy traffic esp after games). I think it’s $20 for parking there. You can find pkg lots farther away from Staples for $15. Doors for general public open 1hr 15min before game time – so 11:15am for tomorrow’s game. Hope that helps and have a great time! 🙂

  • John Focker

    In a way MDA is like the Jeremy Lin of NBA coaches. He designs an awesome offensive scheme, but it no longer fits a league that’s obsessed with “volume shooting” heroball that stops ball motion more often than not. When 2007 Suns almost made their big break in 2007, but was cheated out of their championship with “the missing Game 5”. MDA had been searching for the right team since 2008, but ran into two of the biggest ballhogs in contemporary NBA: Melo and Kobe (Jeremy took an extra stop in HOU), the latter costing him any further NBA HC job. I’m positive he’s still looking for redemption.

    MDA and Jeremy are really birds of a feather.

  • John Focker

    Given the choice, I would seriously pick Jarrett Jack over Kemba.

  • blubell

    Thank you so much! You’re DaBosss 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    heh heh, who here is God? never mind me, I am not blasphemy-ing.

  • Dorothy

    OK, I just read an article about Jordan Clarkson and it reminded me he has huge fan base in Philippines (with 98M population and huge bball country). He did not even make the top 10 all-star (the #10 is Lillard with 81K votes). There is NO WAY Clarkson got lower than 81K votes from Philippines. All-star votes is definitely rigged, I have no doubt about it now.

  • JoeTeam

    This is why I like Shaun, though I’d love it if JLin had his chance. JLin will get there, look at Shaun’s 9 teams and this:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14528153

  • kauaiblue

    Charlotte is doomed with walker and batum…

  • kauaiblue

    Great post john focker, he gets cheated andbi truly dont understand why… doesnt nba want diversity and money he generates

  • kauaiblue

    Have fun!

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah baby yeah!

  • occupatio

    simple question: do you think lin’s all-star votes from the LA season are real or rigged?

  • spiderman

    Funny how all types of personal attacks and bravado are allowed there, but heaven forbid that one suggest that another JLin site is available. It reveals the insecurity of site owner

  • John Focker

    Batum still has flexibility left in him, plus he won’t be around beyond this year. I doubt that he’s happy with Kemba’s hogging style.

  • 1mtoldman

    well i may not know any more about this than you but i know a little bit about basketball in the philippines and i dont think clarkson actually has a “huge fan base” in the philippines, probably because he has never identified with (i think this has been discussed here before in the past) to a great extent the part of his heritage that is philippine.

    this is not surprising. there are a number of american athletes who are half or less than half asian of some sort who dont “look asian” who dont.

    i dont think general fans in the philippines are for the most part aware of clarkson as a “filipino”.

    i have seen a fair number of lin shirts there and american players who play there or in asia are known (blatche, marbury) as well as of course the stars. (kobe, lebron,…. i once saw derrick rose speaking at the mall of asia promoting something).

    anyway to sum in philippines basketball is huge but fans are fans of pretty much the same players fans are here.

    because for the most part clarkson has not identified himself with and he has not been identified by his partial asian heritage as far as i know there wouldn’t be a significant national identity vote for clarkson as there is for say pachulala (sp). from georgia. (i think).

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  • 1mtoldman

    i doubt that he’s happy playing out of position.

  • 1mtoldman

    as ive tried (unsuccessfully it seems) to point out in numerous pieces lin’s “scoring” has been on par lately with the best points of his career.

    pretty much any way you choose. by being forced out of his “natural” position at 1 he has had to adapt and tho his assists are the victim his scoring is the beneficiary.

    (as long as he would continue the minutes trend that has been for the last 16 games. after the last game however when he was pulled and not returned after his “turnovers” that may be in question, and i would think even more so once batum returns and especially if bojo would be acquired, but others disagree with that last).

  • 1mtoldman

    good post.

  • 1mtoldman

    as long as he gets his in and out burgers. can’t be happy without that. (or so it would appear from previous evidence here).

  • 1mtoldman

    there’s no reason to assume lin would be the starter. deron williams is performing as a top 20 point guard statistically now as the starter and when he went down the 2nd greatest player in the history of latin america j.j. barea put up 20+ nights in his stead: then there’s devin harris and fatty felton.

    the mavs (and i have attempted to point this out previously) have for some time (and this was part of the problem why rondo didn’t work out and even while he was there) used a multiple point guard system.

    the plus for lin would have been yes some burn at point guard which he doesn’t get (for the most part in charlotte) but the minus would be he would be fighting for minutes all the time with a glut of pg’s.

  • 1mtoldman

    ha. in the past would have no idea what yer talking about but thanks to sophie p and to a lesser extent someone else whos “handle” ive forgot in the more recent past i now know these things.

  • 1mtoldman

    no doubt you’ll have more sucesses than the conspiracy challenged he who shall not be named last game.

  • 1mtoldman

    main “tip” for “our bluebell”: dont forget the time of the game. its a weird time i think. (and dont trust the countdown thing on here its often wrong).

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    After so many days of rest, I hope Lin is 100% and starts picking up what’s left last time playing with Walker and scoring 35 points. Walker needs to distribute the ball more even when he’s got a hot hand in shooting his jump shots. He needs to bring his teammates together to play.

  • aras

    it’s the truth it would. he is not playing at an all star level how would it look for him in the future if he got to play the all star game because his fans got him there? would you not rather Lin having to produce at an all star level to be there?

  • aras

    IF Lin makes it to the all star game it would be the most undeserving all star player in the game probably ever thats the truth. Lin has the talent to be an all star its about finding the right system for him and he has to be the PG. but If lin got to the all star game it would do more harm than good for him.

  • John Focker

    Kemba doesn’t “need” to do anything other than to take care of himself. It’s the Hornets who “need” him to do his “real” primary job as a PG, rather than to focus on the stat-padding side business Kemba’s currently 100% devoted to.

  • KHuang

    Were Lin not Asian, he’d be a $10 million player minimum.

  • John Focker

    …under the current cap. 15M or better under new cap.

  • KHuang

    Totally disagree.

    As a Suns fan, I followed that Shaq team closely.

    What did the Suns in was NOT Shaq.

    No, what did the Suns in was Grant Hill having an APPENDECTOMY and rushing back only two weeks after his surgery!

    That season, Grant Hill was “Grant Hill” before the surgery but became a HOBBLED SCRUB who opponents lit up and who couldn’t score.

    D’Antoni’s error was playing Hill as the starting SF instead of 6th man of the year Boris Diaw who was KILLING IT at SF as an overpowering post up Xavier McDaniel type guy who routinely scored 20+ ppg against overmatched small forwards.

    The Suns would have gone further had Diaw started and Hill sat. D’Antoni, Kerr, and Hill were to blame for that.

  • KHuang

    Walker GOT BURNED by Lin’s 35.

    Walker will try his hardest to make sure Lin cannot score that much ever again.

  • KHuang

    best bargain in the damn league.

    What other $2 million player not on a rookie contract is producing like this?

  • John Focker

    That was at least the second burn, first being OT win vs Kings. Sure stole a lot of thunder from Kemba.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Hornets will then see the distance from Playoff increases for sure.
    It’s a must that this team needs to go to playoff this season.

  • KHuang

    Walker alone dooms the Hornets.

  • KHuang

    Curry signed that contract when he was an INJURY PRONE weakling whose Warriors were not winning and when Joe Lacob had not yet transformed the team to protect him.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin gets paid less than Brian Roberts.

  • John Focker

    Kemba does a mighty fine job of running Charlotte team into the ground, Bobcats or Hornets. Doesn’t need any help from Batum to do it either.

  • KHuang

    I consider Lin’s “natural position” to be either a 1 or 2.

    But what Lin’s been playing since Linsanity is NEITHER a 1 not 2.

    Lin’s current position is a ZERO in that he’s a point guard who doesn’t get to play point and a shooting guard who doesn’t get to shoot.

  • John Focker

    Hence he’s the REAL bargain. Next year will be his contract year at only 12.1M, just in time for the new cap. I’m calling 18M or better.

    For Kemba to be considered a good bargain, he’d have to be in the 7M to 8M range, just a tad above Beverley.

  • KHuang

    Lin is TRENDING UPWARDS.

    Like I’ve said for the last 3 seasons, Lin is the only guard in the NBA who can FLOURISH despite his hater teammates freezing him out.

    Lin ballhawks, scoops up loose balls, plays tremendous defense, and sets up plays with nonhater teammates.

    Lin’s already starting to score big. As soon as his nonKembaBatum teammates fully realize that they can save their own careers by playing through Lin, that’s when Lin’s numbers will really explode. Happens ever season around the All Star Break, as that’s how long it takes for teammates to realize that Lin’s their only hope.

  • KHuang

    Walker’s selfish isoball and utter refusal to play defense are causing a TEAM MUTINY among the Charlotte Hornets players.

    Nobody is going to exert hard for Walker when he refuses to pass to them and them screams at them for not covering his man defensively.

    Ironically, the only guy still trying to save Walker is the one guy Walker is trying to eject: LIN!

  • John Focker

    Admittedly you have the advantage here, for I was SOOOOooo upset by the “missing Game 5” that I quit NBA again (first time was after 1998 Finals, started watching again because of Nash-craze in Phoenix). Not familiar with the Hill episode (and truly appreciate your insight), but still think losing Marion and bring Shaq were both minuses. Did occasionally catch glimpses of Shaq “trying” to catch up with the pace: he couldn’t.

  • KHuang

    EVERY team in the NBA, including the Hornets, would much rather have nonAsian Brian Roberts than Jeremy Lin.

  • KHuang

    Curry was paid fairly.

    Had Curry not played on powerful well run Golden State, right now he’d be an injury prone no defense selfish shooting player who barely scores double figures.

  • Acbc

    Charlotte is doomed,
    With Walker and Batum
    It’ll happen soon
    When Linsanity resumes
    Take Sixers to the moon.

  • John Focker

    Agree without reservations. Small-minded people only think of themselves, and miss out on bigger win-win-win opportunities (Ballhog, Lin and team) that ultimately benefit EVERYONE.

  • John Focker

    To illustrate how good Lin is and how tough he is mentally, one needs to look no further than the current situation of Ty Lawson.

  • KHuang

    I followed that Suns team very closely, so I know more about that Suns team than anybody including ex GM Steve Kerr.

    Before the Shaq trade, any team with a semi competent big man was WRECKING Shawn Marion in the middle. Good ol Al Jefferson would AVERAGE 30 points and 20 rebounds against the Suns, and the Suns lost every time. Sure the Suns looked fancy and beat bad teams, but every team with a decent big man (including losing teams) easily crushed the wimpy Suns.

    When Shaq arrived, that completely stopped the inside bleeding. Suddenly the Suns had a rebounding advantage and guys like Jefferson were no longer averaging 30 and 20. The Suns ran better because they got defensive boards and Amare Stoudemire went into full beast mode because Shaq commanded so much attention on both ends.

    But the Hill failure UTTERLY DOOMED the Suns. He was even worse defensively than James Harden and Kemba Walker and Kobe Bryant were with Lin. And Hill was utterly worthless offensively, scoring well under 10 points a game despite him being a career double figure scorer long AFTER that season!

    Hill being hobbled meant the Suns were playing 4 on 5, and Shaq unfairly took the blame for everything since nobody in the “establishment” dared question Hill. But Hill STUNK!

  • John Focker

    I think Curry could’ve broken out a year (or two) sooner if Monta Ellis wasn’t getting in the way.

  • KHuang

    Stupid Kemba Walker would get BETTER scoring stats AND would win more if he just ran Clifford’s damn offense and played Clifford’s trapping defense.

  • KHuang

    Yes – though Lawson is coming around as JB Bickerstaff brutally shames James Harden via the media into playing winning team basketball.

  • John Focker

    Wow thanks for taking the time to compile this very enlightening writeup. I guess I’ve wrongly blamed Shaq this whole time. Do you think the Hill disaster could’ve been foreseen (and avoided) or just plain bad luck?

    Also, I can’t imagine how upset you must’ve been when Suns were eliminated due to the missing game 5 (was it Bowen who kicked Nash in the ‘nads?). I wasn’t a long-time Suns fan but even then it upset me enough to quit watching.

  • KHuang

    Another thing that clueless media haters conveniently forgot was that in the following season, the Suns were doing great early with Shaq until
    Amare Stoudemire WENT DOWN FOR THE SEASON with that knee injury.

    Everybody blamed Shaq even though Shaq played GREAT and made the All Star Team while keeping the battered Suns at around .500.

    I as a Phx resident HATED how the national media unfairly criticized Shaq for the failures caused by not just injuries to Hill and Shaq but by BAD DRAFTING (drafted scrub Robin Lopez over stud Roy Hibbert, a move that I bitterly complained about on NBA.com’s forum with trolls taunting me for believing in Hibbert who eventually becaude an All Star).

    Speaking of Hibbert, the Suns should have paid attention to me when I was proclaiming him a “great player” on NBA.com’s forum. People trolled me for that, but the Suns would have had a Amare Shaq Diaw Hibbert frontcourt. That would have been too much for even the powerful Spurs with Duncan and Lakers with Gasol and Bynum and Odom to handle.

  • John Focker

    Bickerstaff must either have some serious backbone, or he knows he’s not the permanent solution thus he’s having this IDGAF attitude. 🙂

    Either way, it’s a good chance for Harden to be instilled with some sense of humility. Dude’s spoiled rotten by Morey.

  • John Focker

    For what it’s worth, I always thought you’re the Ed Weiland in the forum, despite our occasional differences in opinion, most notably Ed Davis vs Hornets’ bigs (minus Tyler, Clifford doesn’t play him enough so small sample).

  • John Focker

    True, and that was convincingly shown in the preseason (and even in some regular season games), when stats didn’t count and Kemba didn’t feel threatened. I’ve always wondered why Charlotte fans were so pessimistic about making the playoffs, despite Hornets’ flash of brilliance in the preseason. But now I know it’s because they’ve watched Kemba for too long and know him all too well.

  • donsmacau

    KHuang is Absolutely Correct

    JLIN’s Raptor game made Kemba/Batum/MJ get a wake up call.

    Kemba/Batum/FO will NEVER allow JLIN to take over a game like that again.

    Never again will they allow JLIN’s number to be repeatedly called, have plays run JLIN, allow JLIN to get into a quick rhythm facilitating good team play and maintain the rhythm all game to see JLIN explode like that and overshadow the superstars again.

    They believe Kemba is the All-Star and do whatever it takes to make that happen.

  • John Focker

    Though it’s REALLY hard to completely contain Lin. For as much as the Rox hated Lin, he still found a way to get a triple-double in 29 minutes, from the bench no less.

  • KHuang

    The Hill disaster could have been COMPLETELY AVOIDED, and that’s what utterly enraged me as a longtime NBA viewer.

    Hill came back two weeks after the appendectomy. Anybody who’s had such a surgery knows that it actually takes 6 weeks MINIMUM to truly recover from that, and that’s without NBA athletes slamming into that recovering patient.

    What the Suns should have done was place Hill on the injured list for about two months and THEN brought him back for the playoffs bit by bit. Sure it would have hurt the standings, but Hill playing hurt the Suns anyway AND caused him to be still injured for the playoffs. IMPATIENCE is what did the Suns in, then and now.

    Actually, I as a Suns fan was not in the least bit upset when Bowen kicked Nash into the stands.

    While I have always HATED Bruce Bowen and considered him a cheap dirty unskilled thug whose All Defense reputation was a SHAM because opposing players never had trouble scoring on him (an exact PJ Hairston clone is what Bowen was), I didn’t really hold the Steve Nash thing against him because that’s “natural gamesmanship” to me.

    No, what enraged me was Diaw and Stoudemire STUPIDLY coming off the bench to aid Nash when league rules openly banned that. Those two fools were rightfully suspended.

    I as a Suns fan plainly
    knew that the Suns were no match for the machinelike Spurs with Duncan in his prime. I knew that D’Antoni’s refusal to run inside play against anybody would do the Suns in against power teams like Duncan’s Spurs. I never believed that those nonShaq Suns would have beaten the Spurs or the Lakers or any team with a half decent big man. Even if Diaw and Stoudemire had not been suspended, I seriously doubt that the final outcome would have been any different because the Spurs were toying with the Suns for the previous games!

  • donsmacau

    Goes back to what KHuang said, JLIN over time collects sympathizers who know what he can do and will look for him occasionally.

  • KHuang

    Thanks, though I know much more about the NBA than Ed Weiland does.

  • John Focker

    For the short time that I’ve watched Hairston play, he didn’t strike me as dirty at all, so I’m gonna guess you were referring to his overrated D.

    Respect for being fair and viewing the whole incident objective despite being clearly a Suns fan. I still optimistically think Suns had a shot and “could’ve” taken it, but that’s obviously a complete toss-up now.

  • John Focker

    Aww c’mon…now you’re just being nit-picky. 🙂

  • KHuang

    I don’t think Clifford has THE GUTS to restrain Walker from refusing to run the team’s offense.

    Clifford has had Kemba Walker stinking up the Hornets for 3 seasons already.

    If anything, there will be MORE reliance on Walker which means MORE losing and BIGGER defeats.

  • KHuang

    It’s LINPOSSIBLE to contain a truly great player like Lin.

    Every single team Lin has played on, including Lin’s rookie Warriors, has found that out the hard way.

  • KHuang

    When players eventually realize that they can save their own careers by playing through Lin, that’s when Lin’s numbers rise exponentially.

    And given that Lin’s numbers are already excellent, an exponential rise means NEAR LINSANITY numbers anytime now.

  • John Focker

    So true. Lin even led the lowly LA Djangos to defeat the great GSW during Kobe’s absence, truly astonishing as BS kept Lin’s best PNR partner Ed away, so Jeremy basically led the likes of Ellington, Clarkson, Wes Johnson, Jordan Hill, Ronnie Price, Sacre and Kelly(!) into beating last year’s NBA champions. (I won’t dog on Boozer and Swaggy as they were serviceable and Lin-allies.)

    IMHO, it was no less amazing than the original Linsanity.

  • KHuang

    Bickerstaff is a battle tested NBA veteran coach who knows not just how to handle bad superstars like Harden, but also bad front office jerks like Daryl Morey.

    He has the Rockets playing teamball, and when they don’t he says things like “Our players did not respect the game”. Then the reporters swarm the culprits like James Harden and demand explanations which cause Harden to hem and haw.

  • KHuang

    There were A LOT of Lakers and Houston games like that.

    Linsanity never ended for me.

  • John Focker

    Players need to look at Landry Field and Steve Novak and figure out: “Hmm, I can make a really sweet new contract off this guy!”

  • KHuang

    Not likely.

    Curry was injury prone at the time and likely didn’t have his PEDs optimized.

  • KHuang

    Had the Suns gotten lucky and somehow beaten the Spurs, they’d have lost anyway in the later rounds.

    Hairston is indeed not dirty. I was just saying that Bruce Bowen has the exact same skillset as Hairston PLUS Bowen was crazy dirty.

    NBA refs let Bowen go because though his dirty play regularly injured opponents, Bowen was simply not good enough to be more than the PJ Hairston player he always was.

  • KHuang

    Nitpicky is why I know the NBA!

  • John Focker

    Yes, but the victory over GSW was the most irrefutable evidence in the face of haters.

    It’s the brilliant games in between the many McHale/Harden and KoBS bully sessions that kept me watching all the games. If it was tough for me to endure watching the BS (pun) from the comfort of my home, I couldn’t imagine how it must’ve been for Lin and his family.

  • KHuang

    Or Ronnie Price, Jeremy Lamb, Wayne Ellington, Jordan Hill, Wes Johnson, and Ed Davis.

  • Dorothy

    I read the comments of the article and EVERYONE was defending Clarkson. Then I read these comments and realized why so. (When Lin was still with Lakers I remember reading that once Clarkson realized his Philippines inherit could be beneficial for him he started reconnecting to Philippines.)

    “I recently moved from Canada to the Philippines for missionary work and was so confused as to why Jordan Clarkson was on advertisements everywhere for things like phones etc. I had forgot he is half filipino. He doesn’t look like it. He is a superstar here lol”

    “Yup, I go to the Philippines for vacation every December and June (3 months total) because that is my native country and I have a lot of family back there. He really is a big star in the Philippines. I believe he was supposed to play for our national team in the FIBA Asia Tournament last year but his dad didn’t allow it because he could’ve gotten injured and it would cost him his contract year. I believe we would’ve won the FIBA Asia’s and qualified for the Olympics if he was in the national team because we placed 2nd without Clarkson lol. Big Filipino community here in the Bay Area and we all support Clarkson with the Lakers.”

    “It’s the biggest sport in the Philippines, dude! NBA is really big there. Lots of Warriors, Lakers and OKC fans out there. We could make a big push in the international scene if only we had the height lol but at least Filipinos play with a lot of passion and heart which took them to 2nd place in FIBA Asia.”

    Here is the article, if anyone is interested.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2606227-jordan-clarkson-has-proved-his-talent-but-not-his-free-agency-price-tag

  • John Focker

    Though your point may well be valid, 81K is simply too low a threshold NOT to surpass.

  • Dorothy

    I knew it was rigged when Lin was at LA, but in China I believe FB is banned and IG is not popular, so I gave it some doubt. But this year, China fans can use Weibo and QQ, there is no way, Lin only got 122 votes so far. PLUS Clarkson has Philippines the whole country backs him up and could not have more than 81K votes. All-star vote is definitely rigged. I have no doubt at all now. This is how sick NBA is. They want to be more popular in China so they added WeiBo and QQ this year to attract Chinese, but NBA discard their votes secretly. NBA should hire a public accounting firm to monitor their votes to have some credibility.

  • John Focker

    Why even bother with the accounting firm. The league doesn’t even care when their refs blatantly cheat with literally millions of fans watching. NBA has little to no credibility left, except for the most casual of fans and the very young who have yet figured things out.

  • Dorothy

    LOL, good point.

  • John Focker

    Hawes and most recently Kaminsky have lost their long range. Kemba’s selfish play has disrupted everyone on the offense and taken them out of rhythm. I think they’ve lost their cool and are playing upset.

  • David Kim

     is what Kemba is doing winning
    Basketball? The complete or efficient player at point guard that translates into winning games and getting you into the playoffs??? H*** no. You guys always list what he does and completely ignore the things a winning point guard does do. It makes you feel good to make a point but here we are again out of the playoffs.

    Defense.. Help d. Lol. On ball d average when hes hustling bc of his height. Stopping oposing point guard penetration. Bad. Post up and iso d. Lol. Transition d good. Trapping d. Ok. To below aveage bc of his height. Kemba overall nightly gives up what he puts out. He contains no one bc hes a shrimp. This is huge in crunch bc you cant get stops bc of him in part.. This will never change.

    Offense. Volume shooter. Terrible assists at the rim point guard. So he doesnt make mates better. Bc he cant get them layups. This is huge and the biggest problem w his game. A point gd that cant make teamates better should never start. Period. Lin should start.

    No lobs.no backbdoors. No alley oops. No wrap arounds. No skip passes. No drive and kicks. No pockect passes. These are all layups missing from the offense. Mo came and activated the same guys kemba could not. The very same guys!!!!! Its used to be no shooters. No bigs. But all that is here now and his assists reamain the same.

    You need a guy like mo who dimes and hits the three but also plays d. He made the team go. At least stop the selfish forces at the rack and volume shooting..

    So lets add it up : no assists at the rim. Makes no one better. D is poor to acerage. Volume shooter. The guy has. Mj on speedial. Both should get as far away from each other as pissible. No one respects Kemba like the fanbase does. The writers dont. Coaches dont. He cant play off the ball and impairs the ball from moving side to side which is winning ball in the nba now. Keep loving him. I told yall from day one what he was. Injuries. Lol. At full bore who are you getting by w this guy? Wall ? Kyrie ? Teague? Lowry? Jennings/ jackson. And theres more to come..

    by Brooklyn123netts on 01.07.16 8:10pm
    up reply

    I like this comment from atthehive

  • Acbc

    Sorry JT, if you become Charlie Brown, I’ll have to learn to talk Charlie Brown….”woo wah woom woom wah wag”

    Okay BB8 for Bluebell and CB8 for you then.

  • kauaiblue

    I like that!! It brought a tear to my eye… lol

  • kauaiblue

    Agreed. I noticed his defense is unbelievably bad… i thought hed be able to defend bv hes fast… batum is slower than tractor trailer… and he sukks at setting up offense…

  • kauaiblue

    They both r bad… what kind of offense is this?

  • KHuang

    Yes.

    Nobody outside Walker and Batum, Lin included, knows when to pass or shoot.

    The Charlotte Hornets are playing like a bad pickup team.

  • CJSHYY
  • John Focker

    Just had a conversation with my dad this morning (evening in LA). I think that playing proper basketball Hornets should be 28-7 (top in EC, 3rd overall), my dad gave a more conservative 25-10 (2nd in EC, 4th overall). Even going by my dad’s estimate, Kembaball cost Hornets at least 8 wins already.

  • donsmacau

    Amen Brother, Preach it…

    To expect them to see the light is near impossible at this point. Kemba scores but on an ungodly number of shots to the detriment of almost every other part of the game for his team.

    Bottom line — Kemba does not deliver WINS

  • 1mtoldman

    here’s a link with maybe some info for “our bluebell” (some mite not apply but some mite).

    the main thing is WAKE UP. its a noon hour game in l.a.

    12:30 (i never know if thats am or pm but noon-ish).

    http://ladateideas.com/staples-center/

  • TTNN

    yes, I get more and more frustrated with Clifford in that area. Especially the past two games. The way he called out Lamb and benched him, but Walker was way worse than Lamb for the past two games, he was quiting early, cheat in defense, but coach don’t hold walker accountable.

    yesterday’s post practice interview, Kemba saying people need to help, in the whole team, he is only one should not emphasis on that. He has been rely on help to cheat in defense, initiate the defensive break down early, that a good team go more than 2-3 passes will for sure expose that.

  • Teak

    Lou Williams 6’1″ yet he’s the SG of the Lakers. Kemba at the same height can play the same position too so that Lin can play point.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol i thought games at 7 thx

  • TK Wong

    Yes!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    You speculating that everyone in Philippine is a Clarkson fan….but even if they were all his fan, maybe they feel he is not deserving to go to the all-star…Has that ever enter in your calculation.

    It’s the same for Lin…Maybe many of his fan are fair minded and truly believe Lin does not deserve to be an all-star.

    I’m a big fan just like everyone on here, but I reject any attempt to get Lin in the all-star game simply because I truly feel he does not deserve such accolade…Not every single Lin fan believe he should be an all-star.

  • blubell
  • And 76ers is #20 at NBA Teams 2014 Worth estimated at $420M LOL

    #20: Philadelphia 76ers – $420 million
    #21: Toronto Raptors – $400 million
    #22: Detroit Pistons – $400 million
    #23: Washington Wizards – $400 million

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/the-most-valuable-nba-teams/

  • tom

    Tipoff in 3 hours?

  • tom

    damn 3:30pm im so happy

  • tom

    AI boosted their worth by himself

  • Dorothy

    I agree some fans like you feel their player does not “deserve” to be All-Star, but I think there are more crazy fans like me that is why I am sure now absolute sure NBA rigged the all-star results.
    My experience is the non-western countries all have very strong “nationalism” sentiment, and they want to see their countryman shine at western countries and will all out support them. Like I never watched a complete NBA game before Lin, LOL

  • sws94

    It’s not totally true. He does some back doors, pocket passes, drive and kicks, just not as many as he should. I don’t know what the big deal is, you don’t see much of that from Irving, Rose and other types of similar PGs. Wall and Westbrook are scorers that have learned how to become assists guys, but still are scorers. Kemba is 2 years younger. We can only hope that he does to for his sake. But nothing is going to change much now. For now, Batum helps Kemba does that more and hopefully when Lin plays with Kemba, when Lin gets healthier he’ll look for Lin more. That’s all we can hope for.

  • sws94

    He’s not going to be close to 100 percent. Word is his back also is acting up some on him. Best we can hope for is that the ankle doesn’t limit him as much and that his shot is falling so he won’t need to drive as much as he’s been. But 100 percent won’t come until maybe after the ASB or at least, Lin’s ankle/back not bothering him that much.

  • sws94

    After the last game Kemba said he wasn’t playing good defense, not keeping his man in front of him. And I hope that Marv talked to Kemba about playing hero ball. I really think Marv made that general comment to talk mostly about Kemba. Although I think Frank is doing some of that as well. I think Marv, PJ, Lin and Cody are trying to play team ball. Kemba, Roberts, Lamb at times are playing heroball, but Roberts doesn’t play that much in general. He is playing more the last few games but probably wouldn’t play as much if Lin was healthier.

  • sws94

    No way Curry barely scores double figures. His ability to shoot the ball in a split seconds off the dribble from distance and his getting in rhythm and he only needs to hit 3 shots to get 9 points. The rest will come. That’s insane to think he wouldn’t score in double figures.

    Curry is an amazing talent, at least offensively, and he’s going to the hall of fame as one of the best shooters in the game ever. Maybe the best shooter. He has injuries for sure, but his talent is way above most offensive players in the league. He’s very special. I’m not a huge Curry fan either, for some reason I don’t enjoy watching him as much as some others here.

  • new game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g36-cha-lac-game-thread/

    For the first time in a few games, Jeremy Lin is not listed as probable due to his ankle injury.

    The 13pts in 1 quarter during the Suns game gave hope of his improved mobility.

    This is another tough game against the Clippers who owns the current longest winning streak at 7, tied with the Spurs.

    Let’s go, JLin!

  • JoeTeam

    But you can be Linus …

  • LinMad

    if i win this, I’m writing a $5 mln check to Jlinfoundation and flying him to my mansion to cook me a meal.

  • LinMad

    this game is not on lp?