Preseason4 BOS Celtics vs BKN Nets: Missing Brook-Lin PnR

After 2 consecutive losses on the road with Lin or Brook taking turn to rest, the Brooklyn Nets is going to face Boston Celtics in the next 2 games at home (Oct 13) and the road (Oct 17). These are interesting matchups since 9 days later (Oct 26), the Nets will meet the Celtics on the road in their 1st regular season in a game that really matters.

Coach Atkinson would certainly want to see which lineup would match up well against the Celtics starters and reserves without giving up much of their game plans. On the other side, fans would undoubtedly love to see a heavy dose of Brook-Lin pick-and-roll (PnR) to build their chemistry in game environment. Motion offense have been heavily featured in the first three preseason games in order to create a team identitybut Brook-Lin PnR would be in high demand once the season starts so it is time to practice them in real-game situation in the last 3 games.

But it’s unknown if Coach Atkinson still wants to evaluate more players (Yogi Ferrel, Mockevicius, Jorge) before deciding who will go to the D-League.

Another area of concern is the Nets defense who gave up a 20-3 run in the 3rd quarter after Lin rested with 6:05 left. A line-up of Whitehead/Kilpatrick/Scola/Bogdanovic/Bennet was completely outmatched by the Heat starters.

While it is understandable that the coaching staff want to evaluate the final 15-man roster, it is important to establish game chemistry with consistent lineup of the starters especially in the 3 remaining games.

Let’s hope and pray that JLin and the Nets continue to play well and both teams have good health.  Let’s go, JLin! Let’s go, Nets!

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  • your son’s legendary voltaire
  • Maknusia

    BrookLin

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  • aggressiveplayer

    I have a much better feeling about tomorrow’s game

  • MorlockO

    Still a narrow minded fool though… thinking that 20.5 wins is fair…

  • Maknusia

    I will take it…anything thats said in positive manner…it gives better vibe,,,

  • Maknusia

    narrow minded is fine…calling him fool…you know the rules…btw welcome back long time no see

  • Maknusia

    BTW, the last game against heat…’nothing but nets’ had an article grading players…

    checkit out here
    http://www.jlinportal.com/preseason3-bkn-nets-vs-mia-heat-finding-15-man-roster/#comment-2948065245

  • spiderman

    If McHale learned anything about Lin, it is that he is difference-maker.
    McHale has obviously not learned much

  • occupatio

    mchale can’t say something straight positive about lin without embedding it in criticism. a lot of it was putting him down, sprinkled with ‘praise’.

    and worst of all, mchale thinks lin’s performance on the rockets has nothing to do with the particular expectations and put-downs he directed at lin. yes, lin has improved since then, but it’s also bc clifford and atkinson saw more value in lin than mchale did. people can rise to your expectations, or, as in mchale’s case, sink down to them.

  • Maknusia

    not disagreeing there…I think he just dont understand Lin’s game…basically not a sound coach

  • occupatio

    kerr is a good coach and he too has trashed lin in the past whenever he was the commentator, nitpicking random things instead of focusing on lin’s strengths. mchale is not some weird exception in terms of how he perceives lin; mchale is close to the common baseline instead of being some outlier viewpoint.

  • joy

    Sorry, I didn’t get it. What’s ‘ham’ to do with Lin?

  • spiderman

    reference to hamilton

  • occupatio

    RHJ and Booker got Cs.
    they have prolly disappointed me the most in preseason. i was expecting more from them.
    RHJ’s defensive impact has been overstated, and booker has missed so many gimmes that he shows a lack of finishing touch around the rim. he’s also made some weird decisions like trying to alley-oop with one hand (and biffing it) when he could have perfectly caught the ball with both hands.

  • real-dsb

    thanks so much psalm for the great writeups! I’ve been too busy with work and life to participate much in the forum, but I am definitely still reading all your writeups and following Lin’s every game. Looking forward to a breakthrough season!

  • joy

    It’s interesting to see the writer to compare McHale’s comments to Lin’s.
    I like the ending with Lin’s quote and it makes me believe the Nets will overachieve at the end of the season and surprise everyone!

    “Yeah, that’s fair,” Lin said. “When struggles or trials come, it makes everything even more of a make-it or break-it situation where either you come together or you fall apart.

    “Usually it’s one of those two. They either come together or completely fall apart. And that depends on character, culture, coaching, players, all that.”

  • sport

    I’m skeptical on Kerr being a good coach, he just has a great loaded team with an amazing scorer in Curry. To not make any adjustments after losing or after Bogut went down was unacceptable. Popovich would be what I call a good coach who never gave any negative comments about Lin. Pop actually praised Lin for the first time last season after a great game against the Spurs.

  • joy

    McHale’s never believed in Lin and didn’t even bother to develop his potential nor appreciate his talents. He thinks Linsanity is just a flare. To me, he’s just a talker, the same type of coach as Bryan Scott.

  • MorlockO

    sorry forgot about that…. yeah glad to be back… I thought basketball season will never start…

  • aggressiveplayer

    Kerr had some very questionable rotations last year. He played Ezeli way too much when he wasn’t contributing and just being a liability out there. Varejao also wasn’t doing great, he should have given Barbosa and Speights more opportunities but didn’t until it was too late.

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  • Maknusia

    yeah…same here…it was tuff killin time….finally being here…feeling great…..cheers mate

  • 1mtoldman

    nba preseason scoring leaders:

    NBA LEADERS

    Scoring

    SCORING PER GAME
    PLAYER POS TEAM GP MPG PPG
    Devin Booker SG PHO 4 25.2 21.5
    Enes Kanter C OKC 2 27.7 21.3
    Damian Lillard PG POR 3 24.3 21.3
    James Harden SG HOU 4 29.8 21.0
    Hassan Whiteside C MIA 3 24.0 19.3
    Klay Thompson SG GS 3 21.7 19.0
    Jeremy Lin PG BKN 2 20.5 18.5
    Kevin Durant SF GS 3 23.0 18.3
    Jusuf Nurkic C DEN 3 27.0 18.0
    Victor Oladipo SG OKC 3 29.3 17.7

    source: nba stats -cbs sports.com

  • Arsenium12 .

    For someone who seemed, at first, to be quite affable, McHale showed himself to be surprisingly judgmental and loathe to take responsibility when there were problems. It was always somebody else’s fault. That’s why he’s not a good coach and it colours his work as an analyst.

  • joy

    I see. I hope Lin likes ham. 😂😂😂

  • psalm234

    welcome back 🙂 totally understand where you’re coming from.
    Let’s get ready for the Linsanity fever soon 💥 🏀

  • Acbc

    There’s been lots of talk about how Atkinson needs to win in order to build a winning tradition, that winning sort of breeds winning.

    IMO, this doesn’t apply to lower rank teams trying to get out of cellar. It takes talent to compete in the pros. You need skills and great athletes in order to get wins. Look at it in another way, no college them or D league team can’t beat an NBA team. No coach can change a team like that into a winning team in a month. It takes years. .

    This is why coach Lin was making TOs to elevate fumble finger Asik into a serviceable offensive threat. Wins don’t happen just because you want it, you need to learn in order to win. Mchale would chastise Lin for having the vision to build towards a championship. Mchale built a team instead to win the regular season.

    One of the best sports story is of how Pete Sampras worked so hard to win Wimbledon. As a junior, he had a great 2 handed backhand. His coach asked him what his goal in tennis was and he quickly answered that he wanted to win Wimbledon. Pete Fisher told Sampras that he then must give up his favourite double backhand shot and change to a single hand backhand. Sampras was told to charge the net when he could barely look over it. Sampras didn’t win any major junior events because Fisher kept playing him against older kids. The USTA proclaimed that Sampras was groomed for failure, that Sampras will never amount to anything. Sampras rarely if ever beat Michael Chang as a junior but soon after he turned pro, he never lost to Chang again.

    Losing is a great way to learn. That’s why there is a preseason. It’s not about earning credits, it’s about doing meaningful reps and homework before the real exams come. That’s also why there’s no such thing as garbage time either. Only fools waste valuable game time just because the game is completely won or lost. Every valuable minute adds to the 10,000 hours you need to hone a skill, and none is more intense or invaluable as game minutes.

    Sampras deliberately lost in order to learn where to improve. He tested himself daily by forcing himself to meet even greater challenges until there were no more to challenge him. THATS REAL WINNING. Only fools go out of their way to beat up on easier opponents. They are fooling themselves into believing that winning breeds winning.

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  • psalm234

    JLin is ranked #7 scorer at 18.5 ppg with the fewest min/game.

    He’s be Top 2 with Klay using per36 min. Quite impressive!

  • KHuang

    But some guys like Booker and RHJ and Vasquez don’t have ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT in their game.

    Then trying to learn from losing with those guys ends up bringing down the entire franchise.

  • KHuang

    I’d give them Fs both for getting destroyed on both ends of the court.

  • KHuang

    Yes.

    Lopez and Hamilton will come with a much fiercer attitude and a more physical game.

    But RHJ and Booker and Vasquez will continue to regress due to their lack of talent.

  • 1mtoldman

    dont pretend to be good in math but think lin would be #1 (just among these top 10 scorers) with lillard/thompson roughly tied for 2nd. (im just going by points per minute quickly calculated from eyeballing what appears to be the best possibility).

    obviously ultra small sample size but so what. as that famous saying now we hear every day especially from nba players: “it is what it is”. iiwii i spoz sophie would say.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    How could a hall of framer round up kissing the rear end of James Harden?

  • 1mtoldman

    there seems to be more buzz both from fans posting and sites that project depth charts for foye as the starting two.

    thoughts?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Just Lin.

  • norah mackenzie

    in the first game against the pistons foye was acting as the PG and lin as the SG i think – foye was passing to lin a lot – and he wd be a good backup

  • Yura

    Agreed. He’s doing this for the media. That’s all.

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  • Yura

    Hahaha, 👍

  • KHuang

    That worked GREAT –

    and it’ll still work.

    I have been saying for the last 5 seasons that I’d rather Lin be passed to for shots than for Lin to try to forcefeed shots into lesser capable players.

  • KHuang

    Sounds good to me.

    I feel that Lin is deadlier as a SG than as a PG.

  • KHuang

    If McHale had praised Lin like that when McHale was with the Rockets, they’d have won the championship by now.

  • KHuang

    McHale doesn’t even know that Lin is COACH KILLAH!!!

  • psalm234

    your math is good! Klay has lesser pts/min rate than Lin.

    yes, people will argue that these are only 2 preseason games. But it shows Lin’s scoring ability with his hot 3pt shooting will be on par with these stars!. Let’s hope Lin’s confidence with his 3s will propel him to new stratosphere this season! I like seeing how the Nets shoot so many 3s so far

  • Vincent

    Another mda in full support of lin lol

  • takeme2cruz

    What a Class Act Coach who never afraid of saying the truth.

  • takeme2cruz

    Foye can be a big surprise.

  • Click Click

    This game is still fresh in Stevens’ mind:

  • takeme2cruz

    This preseason, Lin hasn’t played the way he took over the game like he did in that game.

  • Click Click

    I know it’s preseason. I didn’t say Lin has played all-out like that game.

  • Click Click

    What Can Jeremy Lin Do Back in New York?

    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/what-can-jeremy-lin-do-back-in-new-york

    But the talents that made him an elite player that season in New York didn’t disappear during his subsequent four years in the NBA wilderness. He wasn’t some shooter who lucked into a hot streak; both his shooting percentage and his accuracy from three have remained consistent. He just needed to find a system that worked for him, like he did in Charlotte last year.

    “Some people like my game, some people don’t. Some people have certain vision for what a point guard should be, others have a different vision,” Lin, now 28, said late last month. “So I go coach to coach, and there’s such a different expectation, even though people should know what they’re going to get. I mean, I’m the same player.”

    Expectations for this season are low; Vegas has them winning around 21 games again, and Nylon Calculus has them winning 27. But if Lin and the Nets manage to exceed them, it will focus attention on the Nets like nothing has since their move to Brooklyn, or really during the decades they spent in New Jersey, either. A New York sports editor once told me his Brooklyn Nets stories were less frequently read than his golf stories. He didn’t mean it as a compliment.

    Lin insists he’s a better player now than when he called Madison Square Garden home. He’s been hard at work on his shot—he rightly pointed out that the more of a threat his midrange and three become, the easier it becomes for him to get to the basket as defenders commit earlier.

    “For me, I think I’m progressing,” Lin said. “I know I’m a better player. I may not have shown that statistically, but again, a lot of that is role, and system, and how much the ball’s in your hands. But I know I’ve been putting in work for the last four to five years, since New York, and I know that hasn’t gone to waste…. I just want to see how great I can be.”

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  • takeme2cruz

    Relax. Just my comment to the highlight.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Lin doesn’t seem to have much trouble, on offense, getting by Isaiah Thomas.

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    Lin doesn’t seem to have much trouble, on offense, getting by Boston Celtics.

    FIFY

  • grover chang

    McHale is covering his butt again. When Linsanity happened after he cut Lin, he said no one could predict Lin would be this good.

    After Lin explodes this season, McHale could say Lin is a better player then he was in Houston that’s why he looks good. Not that McHale didn’t know how to use Lin.

    Weak. Weak. McHale just watching out for himself to let people know it’s not his fault Lin was not linsanity in Houston.

  • MEL LIN

    look at Harris = )

  • PETE B

    I’m in Brooklyn today any free tickets to the game out there?

  • Click Click

    I wonder if certain players and teams make fake injury excuses just so they don’t have to play preseason games, either because of laziness or fear of injuring themselves due to past history of injuries…

    https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/786603136492244992

  • cdblue10

    Lin,Lopez,Bogs,Scola,Harris,Hamilton,Foye,Bennett,Killpatrick.

  • cdblue10

    I think if AK will put RHJ as #2 solely for a defensive purposes since he got athleticism,length and speed,Nets will be more effective rather than playing him as SF.Scratch Booker he will be eaten alive by a lot of PF.

  • Click Click

    I really hope Atkinson gives Brook-Lin ample playtime together tonight. They really need to start gelling against NBA competition before regular season starts.

  • Click Click

    It must be so annoying for Westbrook having to deal with the media constantly prodding him and baiting him to say things that will cause drama. He’s finally had enough of it…

    https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/786602083482865664

  • freemind

    the power of Lin : the ability to make the irrelevant …suddenly relevant again …abet momentarily lol

  • Weifang

    My educated wild guesses: I think sitting Lin or Brook experiment is over. Atkinson probably wants to see who can step up as a starter if Lin or Brook goes down or stopped by other teams. It seems this coach is quite different than others, he is more thinking about systems rather than individuals. Brook Lin will gel sooner or later, the deciding factor for this team is other players. Especially Lin, you cannot ask more from him right now. No other NBA players can offer more than what Lin can offer for this position. If I were the coach, I would worry more about how other players gel than how Lin gels with others.

  • Click Click

    They’re already game planning to stop Lin… in preseason.

    https://twitter.com/celtics/status/786621956841811969

  • CaliUSMC

    Lol at Stevens response. He’s definitely scared of Linsanity 2.0

  • pandaboy99

    LOL I love stevens. hes a lin fan

  • misleading title… it was really coach stevens that talked about lin, and isaiah thomas barely said anything about lin.

  • Click Click

    If Boston didn’t have IT, he and Ainge would’ve done everything possible to land Lin.

  • CaliUSMC

    From what I remember I don’t think Ainge cared for Lin.. him and his dumb twin McHale would toss Lin to the curb.

  • pandaboy99

    Its not a coicidence the best coaches in the league are the ones that note lin as a threat

  • freemind

    Isaiah trying hard not to mention Lin by name.. lol. we’ll see if he still thinks he is more deserving of AS

  • Click Click

    They’re honest about it in their assessment too. I think most coaches in the league know how good Lin can be if you give him the ball, but not many are willing to admit it publicly.

  • Weifang

    he is just more honest than most other coaches.

  • CaliUSMC

    Edit: article arleady posted :-}

  • Click Click

    He would care if Boston didn’t have a good PG already. IMO IT is overrated, but he is good.

    Ainge knows Boston has a huge Asian community, is where Lin attended college, and Stevens would convince him to acquire Lin.

    Of course, this is all just hypothetical and speculation. None of it matters. I also would not want to root for Boston because I really dislike their fans. One of the worst fanbases in the league, besides Heat, Rockets, Knicks fans.

  • CaliUSMC

    Lol Isaiah.. just another Mayweather groupie.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Oh, wow. You posted this here at about the same time I posted this on JLin7, haha. Great minds think alike.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Brad Stevens, Greg Popovich… Both great coaches

  • 22cents

    Time has changed. In the old days, Ainge and McHale’s strategy might work. Zone defense was not allowed then. Now, it is. It significantly changed the way to deal with the games.

    They were good at their time. But time has changed. I would not say they are dumb. They just could not move with the trend.

  • freemind

    …. cause that would be admitting all them millionaire execs and expert scouts being wrong.. way wrong.

  • Click Click

    … cause that would be admitting the NBA is a racist league.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I agree. It was so cringy to watch this because they seem to keep pressing and asking questions about Durant that don’t really matter.. Let it go man.

  • Click Click

    I don’t know what to do tonight. I have to watch both the Nets game and opening night of New York Rangers hockey. I guess I will stream the Nets on my PC and watch Rangers on my TV because MSG streaming quality sucks.

  • pero_square

    Well, water under the bridge now and McHale got his comeuppance for his deeds.

  • MKL

    Anyone have cliffs notes?

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  • Arsenium12 .

    The cultural impact of Linsanity …

    On October 6, 2016, the NYU Department of Social & Cultural Analysis (New York University) held a panel discussion on “the LINSANITY sensation,” to encourage an honest discussion about race, sports and marketing. The panel included, among others, Jonathan Yi, an award-winning HBO documentary filmmaker of East of Main Street, Jay Caspian Kang, NY Times Magazine columnist, and Ursula Liang director, producer, and cinematographer. Ms. Liang has worked for the New York Times, ESPN The Magazine, and Asia Pacific Forum.
    __________
    https://twitter.com/clairebearry/status/784179521083826176

  • Acbc

    IMO, no one at that level is totally unresponsive to coaching. It’s more often fear of losing what little they’ve got that got them there.

    So whose fault is it if these types of players wash out? Assistant coaches are there to help these indivual cases. Even Mchale could be useful as a coach for teaching post moves. The problem with Mchale is that he fails the first step as a coach by projecting his own belief and personal bias on a players potentials.

    I keep bring up poker as an example because a great coach has to have real poker skills. A top poker player will never dismiss a deuce as useless card in a deck, they will find use for them eventually in a flush or straight. Mchale as a poker player would try to blame luck and bad cards. Every player on a team has their own strengths and weaknesses. It’s up to a coach to use them to their best ability while their on the team.

    I know you will never change your mind on Bismark Biyomba but he’s one of those case where continued effort to self improvement along with a perfect fit that brings out his usefulness turned him into a valuable asset. It’s up to coaches to do that. That’s why there’s great coaches that keep the same players and envelop them and day traders like Morey who thinks players can’t be more than what they are.

  • Click Click

    Don’t agree with everything said (especially by the interviewer), but Robin Lundberg says a lot of good things about Lin as usual:

  • MKL

    Good interview. TY for posting.

  • Rick James

    When is game time?

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Crazy that JH has already played about 30 min in preseason games. Definitely not playing defensive is able to cope with that kind of minutes.

    Glad that JLin hasn’t played that many minutes in preseason games…. No need to go all out for preseason games…. Continue to work on more “weapons” to fire in regular games… Expect good will show up in regular seasons. Hope I can witness it soon:-)

  • CJSHYY

    4:30 PT

  • Rick James

    thanks!

  • Rick James

    this game will be a big test for Lin and the nets. If they can beat or at least keep up with the projected 2nd best team in the east, then I think the nets will be alright.

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  • psalm234

    So only LeVert won’t play.
    Hope Brook-Lin will give BOS starters some headache

    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Lewis/status/786686704753188864

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  • zxcvb

    Another game with Foye next to Lin instead of Bojan. Hmm.

  • blueCypher

    Their thinking is probably it gives another ball-handler playmaker in the lineup

  • Click Click

    Bojan is still being rested. He played way too much this summer.

  • takeme2cruz

    Showtime.

  • psalm234

    Rumor has it Bojan might get traded mid-season so it makes sense to test this lineup, just in case

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Just watch he turns over the ball to Jeremy will make you laugh.

  • Click Click

    Rumor has it Brook is going to be traded… for the past 8 years. :p

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  • psalm234

    That one won’t happen since Brook helped to recruit Lin 🙂
    And Brook has been very loyal to the Nets .

    Except for LeBron, of course lol

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  • grover chang

    😡 Not happy with that line up.

  • pandaboy99

    its great not having to wait for the first quarter to end before lin comes in.. its good to be a starter.

  • heart

    @Psalm and anyone, @7:17pm we will in unison pray for Lin and his team for safety, health and team success. Shoot for the stars, Lin!

  • KHuang

    Nets starters IN TROUBLE.

    Lin better play BIG to prevent a Charlotte Hornets style 1st quarter starter deficit.

  • linfan

    I can’t watch the game tonight on my League Pass subscription because it is televised locally in my area (New England Sports).
    Is there any other way I can watch it (that is reasonably safe, that is)?

  • Lin Dunn

    tough choice

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  • james brown

    thanks,

  • blueCypher

    So this is the commentating duo for YES ?

  • CJSHYY

    Seem to be nice & fair so far. Haha!

  • sport

    Anyone know whether nets game/ NBA games show on Comcast for free?

  • Win

    Why is everyone bring the ball up themselves?

  • Epie

    It looked like Hornets play

  • Win

    Lol. Yup.

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  • Vincent

    idk why brook isnt setting any screens for lin

  • kauaiblue

    Rhj is the new kobe…

  • Vincent

    man holis jefferson doesnt see any teammates al he sees is the rim..btw hes bad

  • kauaiblue

    I thought jlin is supposed to be the full time pg?

  • Vincent

    great rhj made a shot well hes taken the last 5 so eventually he’ll make one

  • Parent of Lots of Kids
  • kauaiblue

    Nice!!

  • Vincent

    lol

  • Win

    Lin!

  • kauaiblue

    They arent passing to him when they get rebounds, and jeremyisnt demanding it… rhj just ignores him… lol

  • kauaiblue

    How does he look? Report please!

  • Vincent

    rhj doesnt deserve to be on this team.. khuang was right hes god awful

  • stam

    Did i see IT on the floor? lol

  • Click Click

    Nets’ 3-point shooting is off right now. Hopefully they get it going.

  • Epie

    Starts with Lin!

  • Win

    Another nice drive!

  • Epie

    Wow.. beautiful move Lopez!

  • freemind
  • Vincent

    the ball actually moves without rhj!

  • stam

    Bog for 3!

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s a good seat.

  • Vincent

    idk why bog doesnt start

  • blueCypher

    Brook Lopez has really good low post moves. I like the idea of the Nets mixing it up with him and Lin

  • Vincent

    yes brook and lin are going to be their major weapons this season obviously

  • blueCypher

    Horford is a good player , but I just don’t buy him as the impact player to put the Celtics over the top

  • Joe what do you know

    Very apparent Vasquez can’t orchestrate the bench offence. Every minute he’s on the floor is making his stock value drop…

  • Click Click

    Good quarter. Contribution from everybody and good D. Gotta keep up this play….

  • blueCypher

    I think they are gonna take a hard look at making Randy Foye the back up pg for the 2nd unit

  • TVN

    He’s better than Sullinger or anyone else they had last season, but I agree.

  • Joe what do you know

    Yes I agree. I was hoping Vas can find a way back to his normal self but I think he’s pretty much thrown that opportunity away.

  • NONONO

    I did not realize Nets has so many big size players, most of them are good shooters

  • cdblue10

    where are you watching guys?

  • Vincent

    put lin back in

  • Vincent

    sportshunter.eu

  • NONONO

    The coach tries to find someone can play good pg and sg when Lin sits

  • NONONO

    Booker is good

  • kauaiblue

    Rhj needs to sit…

  • Joe what do you know

    That’s it I think Vasquez experiment has ended for me. He 100% can’t be Lin’a backup…

  • sport

    Why isn’t Lin in?

  • blueCypher

    I’m inclined to agree. He is 3rd stringer point guard imo

  • Vincent

    lol no he needs to play 48 minutes

  • NONONO

    Booker 80% fg.

  • Alaingrvis

    Just came back from class. Hows it going for Lin and the team?

  • sport

    Vasquez out bye bye!

  • CJSHYY

    Bc he’s sure for starter. No need to worry.

  • Click Click

    Booker is dominating this game. Lin should’ve been on the court out there.

  • cdblue10

    thanks

  • sport

    Doesn’t matter, Lin needs more minutes with Lopez to gel. We haven’t seen any PnR experiment for preseason getting worried.

  • Joe what do you know

    That was my opinion after last game. But right now I’m starting to think he might not even deserve a roster spot.

  • blueCypher

    Slide Bog into the starting line up and have Randy Foye play back up pg

  • blueCypher

    I’ve been giving him the benefit of the doubt because of his injury, but he does not look good out there.

  • NONONO

    who could be a good backup pg for Nets? i do not want to see Lin play ave 40 mins.

  • Vincent

    ok thats it where is lin

  • Alaingrvis

    Lopez looks good

  • Joe what do you know

    I would say Harris @ SG and Bog @ SF and we’d have pretty scary firepower on offense. However I’m not so sure about our D with that lineup.

  • Alaingrvis

    Bog cant pass

  • sport

    Lin needs to get back in there this team is boring without him.

  • pandaboy99

    i think atkinson really doesnt want to play lin cuz he knows if he gets injured theres no hope for anything.

  • Epie

    Lin In!

  • Joe what do you know

    TO fest now… SMH

  • kauaiblue

    No.brook lin?

  • kauaiblue

    I know! Theyre so slow!

  • Click Click

    Lin’s off tonight, but he’s always got the drive whenever his shot isn’t going in.

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe they try out Brook w 2nd unit….

  • Alaingrvis

    can the nets be without one on the court at all times

  • Alaingrvis

    minutes may be staggered

  • Alaingrvis

    He is 2-4 lol off night??

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t think he’s really off just try to let other players get more shooting chance.

  • pandaboy99

    bennet is a liabilty

  • stam

    yeah FTs a bit off, he may get the next 4 in though

  • Alaingrvis

    He shows promise though

  • sport

    Lin’s off night for sure, not shooting. Atkinson still with his weird and inconsistent subs of random people….Please don’t let it be like this during regular season. Lin hasn’t been able to play with the same set of players and it does effect his game.

  • Epie

    This.. but he just brings up and give to someone. He’s done that when he feels his “off”

  • blueCypher

    Lin has only attempted 4 shots, seems he is intent on moving the ball instead of looking to score

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! That’s what I thought…

  • pandaboy99

    he just doesnt play like he has strength

  • sport

    No Lin looks frustrated after that time out.

  • Joe what do you know

    He’s trying to involve his teammates but the other guys aren’t helping his causes much…. HELP ME, HELP YOU!!

  • Win

    Lin defense is kinda off too.

  • sport

    Dislike when he does that got FTs when going to the rim but nothing else.

  • sport

    Yes Lin does look a bit slow, even Scola is moving faster than him, what’s going on? I hope he isn’t injured.

  • Alaingrvis

    He is a bit small for his position

  • CJSHYY

    Bc his teammates are not doing well in D. Also not really shoot well either.

  • Vincent

    lin go stand in the corner – kenny

  • HVJoy

    Is Lin playing with the 2nd group?

  • kauaiblue

    There is no motion in this motin offense…

  • Click Click

    Yes, his shot is off. 0 for 2 3P, 2 for 4 FT. I’m not saying he sucks tonight, just that he’s off so far.

  • Click Click

    Battle for the ball was funny to watch. Nice hustle.

  • Joe what do you know

    Scola’s overhead pass…👍

  • kauaiblue

    It woulda bee funny if jlin just barrelled into thomas…

  • kauaiblue

    Jlin looks bored…

  • Win

    Maybe he injured his ankle in the previous game?

  • Click Click

    Pretty good half. Nets always have a good 1st half, but lousy 3rd Q last 2 games. Hopefully they come out ready to play this time.

  • cdblue10

    Nice game so far

  • sport

    Loved down the floor hustle, but seriously Nets needs to be more aggressive and bring that hunger and intensity they are playing way too laid back. Where are the fast breaks and running?

  • kauaiblue

    They look so slow!

  • sport

    Yes and they have some young guys so it doesn’t make sense! Even Lin’s slower with Scola running way faster than him down half court a few times. Is it cause of coach’s motion offense? Does it not fit the team? I hope Lin speaks up because something doesn’t fit right now.

  • CJSHYY
  • GoJLin!

    Brook: 13 Min, 4/9 FG, 0/0 FT, 2 R, 0 A, 0 S, +- 1
    JLIN: 13 Min, 2/4 FG, 4/6 FT, 1 R, 2 A, 1 S, +- 7
    Go JLIN! Go Brook-Lin! Go Net!

  • sport

    What good is the name when he haven’t seen Brook-Lin together on the court at all? Coach doesn’t have any plays from what I’ve seen.

  • james brown

    too early to be so pessimist?

    enjoy the game and you will see the beauty of it!

  • Win

    Luv that! They need to play together more.

  • kauaiblue

    Totally agree… there is no motion n this motion offense… take advantage of jlin’s speed and strengths!

  • james brown

    some players are more hungrier than the other..what drains the energy was the inability to convert easy basket.

  • Alaingrvis

    Remember its not how you start(2-4 is good even if he is 0-2 from three) but how you finish

  • Click Click

    Boston went 4 for 17 and we went 3 for 17 at the 3-point line. Both teams are shooting so badly. But both teams have played very good defense and hustling hard.

  • Click Click

    Honestly, I’m just ignoring the overly critical posts. Too many people nitpick every play, every lineup, every shot, and blame players for every little mistake they make.

  • james brown

    LOL!!!got you bro and hope everybody see your way.

    needs to observe but not too over critical because it will lose the savor of the games..that’s my take.

  • Click Click

    Nice transition 3 from Lin to Foye.

  • Click Click

    Wow Booker with da 3! He’s amazing tonight!

  • GoJLin!

    Because Coach knew they can play together; Atkinson: “We’re still looking to play different combinations. Getting guys looks. Building towards the regular season.” I guess we just have to wait until regular season to see the Brook-Lin P&R.

  • Click Click

    NICE Lin to RHJ!

  • kauaiblue

    Wth?? Booker needs to pass it to jlin… instead, he turns it over…

  • Win

    I really really hate. He did it like 2 or 3 times already.

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin needs to be more agressive

  • stam

    That was such a bs foul

  • Click Click

    With all of the whining to the refs by IT and Horford, refs are calling every little thing against Nets now.

  • kauaiblue

    Rhj is a black hole… iso every time!

  • takeme2cruz

    1st pnr

  • Alaingrvis

    Nice pass to lopez

  • kauaiblue

    What is jlin the leader of? This is like hornets offense…

  • Vincent

    it seems like lin doesnt want the ball

  • Vincent

    i think a lot of lin’s “passiveness” comes from not geting any screens

  • Click Click

    LOL Brook with da 3!

  • kauaiblue

    Full time pg?

  • Click Click

    They’re trapping Lin now…

  • sport

    Lin’s definitely frustrated also not taking shots.

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin has no lanes

  • sport

    Why does Lin pass the ball and then run to the corner? How is this different from previous teams? Then the ball goes the other way and doesn’t come back to him?

  • Spyckie

    Pretty sure they’re just trying to see what else people can do.

  • HVJoy

    3Q 5:35 Lin only had only 5 fga, 8 pts, but 5 assists!

  • Joe what do you know

    Hmm… the Celtics are getting very physical to Lin…. Stevens learning something from Spo…

  • kauaiblue

    Exactly! Its almost worse than in charlotte!

  • Alaingrvis

    If everyteam takes away Lin PNr …..houston we have a problem

  • Vincent

    its on lin to do something honestly tho

  • stam

    Lin’s 3pt is off tonight

  • sport

    This offense is not working at all. I hope Lin and Atkinson talks about adjusting this because both Lin and Lopez aren’t fully featured in the offense enough!!

  • kauaiblue

    What is the offensive scheme?

  • sws94

    Shots off but he’s still playing well. It won’t fall every night. Bradley is a tough defender and Lin is not rattled by him.

  • Vincent

    yes lin is getting trapped, but hes hardly getting any screens to attack off of

  • Click Click

    Man, everyone missing 3s tonight.

  • sport

    Supposedly motion offense but…it just looks like teammates just go for shots after 1-2 passes very bland no movement. The offense just doesn’t fit the team! Atkinson needs to stop being stubborn and just go for PnR. Can’t take this anymore.

  • Joe what do you know

    Boston is just playing physical and very tight D on Lin… Stevens isn’t taking anything for granted. He knows they have to shut Lin down and he’s trying to do it at all cost.

  • Rick James

    lin is getting smothered by 2 players sometimes 3 whenever he touches the ball. That is the main weakness of the nets..a #2 that is a good ball handler and a legitimate offensive threat.

  • kauaiblue

    Totally agree. This.offense looks.horrible… jlin barely touches the ball after passing it…

  • Vincent

    man this is so frustrating

  • Click Click

    Bog!

  • Click Click

    YES Bennett!!!

  • stam

    Lin might be done for the night

  • sport

    Is Lin done for tonight? Feels like things get worst each game….Atkinson needs to stop being blind to his players skills. No PnR with Lin and Lopez and not featuring them as the main offense is a waste!!

  • kauaiblue

    No one can run with jlin…

  • sport

    More like no one’s willing to run! Coach needs to address that! Lin’s best when playing fast breaks!

  • joy

    Yeah, start from Lin. Hehe

  • Rick James

    they might need to run a 2 pg system

  • Vincent

    yeah idk whats going on, but im starting to get worried honestly… no screens. lin gives up the ball after half court and never gets it back.. I mean he does need to try to get open, but i hate watching him playl ike this its like houston all over again

  • kauaiblue

    Right! Looks.pretty chaotic and not.smooth…

  • kauaiblue

    I know… its worse than.charlotte…

  • Alaingrvis

    Its clogged

  • guest

    What the h*** is this crap!

  • Joe what do you know

    Scola is trying his hardest to imitate Parsons with his silly pump fakes when he’s wide open outside 3pt line… 😂

  • kauaiblue

    This is jeremy lin team?? He never gets the ball after passing it…

  • zxcvb

    Yawn. Dull, sloppy defensive game tonight. A lot of overpassing and missed passes. Lin did well despite being cold with his jumper (he was due for an offnight). Great passes that were seldom converted but still has 5 dimes in 21m and scored efficiently though not many looks (8p on 5 shots). +5 net rating as well against a top team focusing on him.

    No one but Lin and Foye can really pass, so I don’t know if this motion offense is going to work. No Brook-Lin PnR yet…I guess Kenny is saving that for the real games! Boston was ugly too tonight (IT: 4-12, 0 assists; Bradley: 3-12, 0 assists).

  • Vincent

    so why cant they play pick and pop then?

  • sport

    It’s really ugly like there’s no offense they are passing but everyone just playing for themselves no screens no PnR. The motion offense gets worst every game!

  • cshot

    lin out for good tonight?

  • kauaiblue

    Juat a lot of outside shooting…

  • Rick James

    scola is playing great

  • Alaingrvis

    While Lin is playing really good if nets ever want to see him to the foullest they have to find a way to get him open lanes

  • Vincent

    yup.. it looked good in their first game, but thats it its been bad ever since

  • Click Click

    Dang, Boston starting to pull away now…

  • Click Click

    Back down by 3.

  • Joe what do you know

    Yes on an overall scale. But he really should’ve taken those open 3s. It’s not like that he can’t shoot.

  • Vincent

    i honestly thought kenny would understand lin best, but it seems like he doesnt know how to use him at all

  • sport

    Really? Kenny purposely played Lin with Brook tonight yet they were both rarely featured in the offense! Whenever Lin passes the selfish players just goes for their own shot instead of trying to find other guys! Only Lin and Lopez are unselfish making extra passes! Yet somehow they are not featured together where ball goes through them the most?! Coach needs to make that statement you need them to leader just passing the ball doesn’t mean things will happen if you don’t make plays for them!

  • james brown

    well with 2 or 3 TO….maybe handling too many fake shots?LOL!!!

  • Spyckie

    you said this many times already, we get it.

  • kauaiblue

    Seems that way! Another misleading excitement?

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin only attempted to shoot 5 times, does it tell you anything? Relax, they are not trying to win. They are trying to see their roster so they make a complete team when the season starts.

  • kauaiblue

    Wow, this team is boring…

  • james brown

    but isn’t this comment too early or your expectation that early?

  • Click Click

    Yeah, people are always overreacting in here. It’s so annoying.

  • Rick James

    any team without lin is boring for lin fans

  • Alaingrvis

    they will figure it out . give it time

  • takeme2cruz

    I try to ignore it.

  • Rick James

    for a 45 year old he is doing great

  • sport

    Both Lopez and Lin sitting together looking puzzled. :/ Yea I’m not sure what coach is doing either.

  • Vincent

    i apologize, it is only preseason i shouldn’t overreact

  • heart

    Another bad 3Q of ill-subbing and momentum turn in favor of opponents.

  • Click Click

    Me too. I might just avoid this place for game threads.

  • james brown

    no space to fulfill those…must address first the spacing before one can happen. and Brooks cant /don’t slide for a roll and prefer the Pop yet at this time.

  • cdblue10

    I hate motion offense

  • kauaiblue

    Ok

  • sport

    Even with Lin it was bad! What’s with Lin running to the side after a pass? How is this different from Houston, Lakers, Hornets?

  • joy

    Maybe the real game starts from 4Q. We’ll see.

  • kauaiblue

    Well, even wit lin in there, it seemed.slow and boring…

  • takeme2cruz

    No, we need you for bringing us what’s out there.

  • kauaiblue

    I know! It was.surreal!

  • Rick James

    yeah, he wasnt doing much

  • cshot

    chill pill. its preseason. lets start panicking at least 10 games in regular season lol

  • Alaingrvis

    Jeremy on an off night is + 5 highest on the team. Bench is an issue

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah, boring…

  • Click Click

    Lin back in for the 4th.

  • Click Click

    Lin with da steal!

  • james brown

    ..LOL

  • Rick James

    lin is human, he is relying on team mates…unfortunately he doesn’t have much options

  • takeme2cruz

    Slow down, mine has delay and still in commercial. lol

  • kauaiblue

    No brook?

  • Click Click

    LOL yeah, my stream is far behind but my TV is way ahead of any stream.

  • sport

    Scola needs to start working on both ends!! What I’ve been saying? Scola needs to start with Lin!

  • Joe what do you know

    Here you go Luis. That’s right you can shoot that 3. Well done!

  • Click Click

    OMG Lin is creating for everybody.

  • Briiick

    Lin is turning the tide.

  • sport

    Calling it right now, Lopez, Lin, and Scola must start! Unselfish players!

  • Click Click

    Lin and Scola leading a run on the Celtics!

  • Win

    Well. One thing I know so far about Nets is, yes they will complete at their hardest every night and I luv it!!!

  • zxcvb

    Can Lin get a double-double tonight?

  • Joe what do you know

    And the assists for Lin just keeps piling up. I’m loving this

  • sport

    Scola with the light 1 handed dunk!! Woot!

  • kauaiblue

    Is this hornets or rox?

  • zxcvb

    Man, Bennett just doesn’t look good.

  • sport

    Lineup is working, Lin, Scola, Lopez, Foye to start…don’t like Booker seems like a selfish player who goes for his own shots instead of making extra passes. He’s good for defense but…

  • aggressiveplayer

    I’m really starting to like Scola. Didn’t like him before but wow is he playing well.

  • Joe what do you know

    He’s alright. Needs some more work. Still quite rough but I think he can be developed.

  • HVJoy

    Lin had 2 assists in 2 minutes!

  • takeme2cruz

    Brook, if you stand on the 3 point line, shoot the damn ball.

  • Rick James

    nothing like seeing a 70 year old scola dunk on a transition bucket

  • kauaiblue

    Lol

  • sport

    Where have you been? Join the club! Scola to start! Loved him since game one! Perfect teammate for Lin and Lopez. Scores on 1 end, taking charge on the other end!!

  • zxcvb

    Seems like the NBA is just too fast for him.

  • sport

    lol He made it look easy too!!

  • Epie

    Lin with +11

  • aggressiveplayer

    I’ve seen his playoff games with the Raptors. It wasn’t pretty. But he’s changed my mind.

  • kauaiblue

    No brook? Wth?

  • kauaiblue

    What kind of offense is this??

  • Click Click

    Man, Booker is a man possessed tonight. And SKil with da 3!

  • Joe what do you know

    Good to see things are coming together tonight. Stay hungry Nets

  • Click Click

    Nets’ D is keeping them in this game.

  • HVJoy

    Booker has a double-double – 11 pts 10 reb.

  • Click Click

    Lin with da drive and 1!

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin is off but playing smart

  • Joe what do you know

    I feel pretty good about both of our PFs. Hard working blue collar type of players. Kudos to them.

  • zxcvb

    Can’t shoot 63% every game!

  • Click Click

    Gotta admit, that wasn’t a foul, but I’ll take it!

  • Joe what do you know

    Lin AND 1!!!

  • zxcvb

    Lincredible drive. He can turn it up any time…but it’s preseason.

    Want to see a double-double!

  • sport

    Woo… a rare sight Lin scooping it all the way up with hang time!!

  • zxcvb

    Rare? Classic Lin move.

  • cshot

    i love kilpatrick. id rather have him start over rhondae lol

  • joy

    I don’t see Hamiton tonight. I wonder why.

  • Briiick

    Lin is a strong tank going to the basket.

  • kauaiblue

    why is he playing so many minutes… and without lopez? Arrgghh

  • sport

    Nah classic Lin is usually way faster with a layup without “scooping” it up. That was like slow motion lol.

  • Rick James

    celtics still playing their second unit

  • zxcvb

    Barely played the first 2 games. But he had big stats, so no one noticed!

  • kauaiblue

    Why is jlin in there?

  • takeme2cruz

    So is the Nets except Lin.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    They are playing hard. Lin is the Man here at Barclay.

  • Rick James

    because nets will get blown out without him

  • sport

    What’s with Lopez’s low minutes?

  • zxcvb

    Seen that move from Lin dozens of times.

  • cshot

    kenny wants to find the supporting cast that should roll with lin

  • zxcvb

    He doesn’t look comfy out there. And I guess they want to watch his health in preseason.

  • takeme2cruz

    To see who will play well with Lin so they can make the rotation.

  • Click Click

    OK, Lin’ done for the night. 26 minutes.

  • Briiick

    good point!

  • james brown

    that’s the obvious right now!

  • zxcvb

    Nice performance by Lin. This is what makes him special, not just great. Even when he’s off with his shot, he dominates with passing, defense, intangibles.

  • Click Click

    Didn’t have a good shooting night, butvLin had 7 assists and 2 steals. He was mainly looking to pass and create for others tonight.

  • Joe what do you know

    I think I’m gonna pray for Vasquez not to screw this up…

  • aggressiveplayer

    I definitely saw some 3 pointers he could have shot but he decided to just pass.

  • zxcvb

    12p on 3-7 FG is actually pretty good. Just not for this new super-saiyan Lin.

  • Epie

    he’s already -13

  • Briiick

    Lin sits now, having turned the tide with a team high +11.

  • Joe what do you know

    Doh! 😱

  • Maknusia

    hahaha…its trial time…..

  • james brown

    Booker seems given the go signal to bring the ball whenever he has the chance but most of the time he seems to like being much of a PG..LOL!

  • Alaingrvis

    Atkinson not playing the young guys….thank goodness

  • joy

    Yeah, but some of them were wide open. We’ll see the hesitation when he didn’t shoot well.

  • Click Click

    So this game’s plan by Kenny is to play his actual lineups for regular season. No experimenting with the D-Leaguers and fringe guys. He was still resting Brook and experimenting with lineups though.

  • Click Click

    Scola is hurt… got hit in his eye.

  • Rick James

    LOL!! WUT!!

  • stam

    i hope it heals quick

  • Click Click

    Pinky eye poke. He should be fine.

  • spiderman

    i like hunter

  • Joe what do you know

    So far I still don’t see any suitable candidates as solid backup for Lin. Not Vas, not Whitehead. Even Foye seems very very shaky…. still haven’t seen Yogi play so can’t say much about him. But looks like PG is going to be the weakest position on Nets roster…

  • Click Click

    SKil’s turning it up. Going HAM

  • sport

    Sean Kilpatrick very aggressive!

  • Click Click

    RHJ with a block!

  • Spyckie

    Bench vs starters is night and day. Bench needs a lot of help. I don’t think we can have a “bench lineup” – we’ll most likely need staggered minutes with an 8-9 man rotation.

    Lin/Lopez/Scola are playmakers/offense creators

    Bog, Harris are good stretch 3 ballers.

    Foye, RHJ, Booker can feed off of opportunities created but shouldn’t be creating.

    Bennett needs a lot of time still. In terms of play, he is still a very much a rookie. This is not his “last chance” IMO – he needs more time to develop.

    9 man rotation:
    Lin
    Foye
    Bog
    Harris
    RHJ
    Booker
    Scola
    Brook
    Hamilton

  • stam

    maybe that’s why he’s doing more of a motion offense because he doesn’t have 2 good pt guards.

  • sport

    Damn crazy block by Jefferson! Another keeper and hustler!

  • stam

    stat wise, Lin played better than isiah T in this game.

  • GoJLin!

    Booker 27 min, 11 pts (5/6), 12 R, 2A (4 TO), -2
    Scola 25 min, 14 pts (5/12), 11 R, 5A (4 TO), +7
    95 to 93; Go NET Go!

  • Joe what do you know

    As long as he doesn’t hold the ball more than 3 sec on offense, he’s an asset.

  • james brown

    TOO aggressive..every possession his only motive was to shoot the ball and not to pass

  • Click Click

    Close game…

  • Rick James

    why the heck are our guys playing so hard!!?? Its pre season, relax!!

  • joy

    Because we want to win!

  • james brown

    to impress the coach!

  • Epie

    Who wants to lose a game..

  • Click Click

    These refs just missed an out of bounds call on Boston…

  • Rick James

    well I want them to win too, but not at the expense of an injury. Skilpatrick jumped and landed pretty bad on the last play, really dumb to get injured in preseason.

  • joy

    Can’t play Scola too long. He’s tired.

  • GoJLin!

    JLin 26 min, 12 pts (3/7), 2R, 7A (2 TO), 2 stl, +11
    Be Happy, Be healthy! Go JLIN!

  • Rick James

    LOL! Its a great game so far though.

  • aggressiveplayer

    100% agree with this. KA shoulda took him out a long time ago

  • Joe what do you know

    Lol…. Vas Vas Vas….

  • Click Click

    Well, refs cost us the game with that blown call. Ball went out of bounds twice on Boston and he didn’t call anything…

  • Rick James

    I don’t mind losing a preseason game, in fact I prefer it if it means our team learns something.

  • james brown

    that’s wrong way on being aggressive..he plays without thinking…that’s why he lose some of the easy gimme…

  • Click Click

    Oh well, GG. Bad missed call.

  • kauaiblue

    Dont like this offense!

  • joy

    Just don’t understand what’s in KA’s mind.

  • Rick James

    im very happy with how nets played today, though it was only a pre season game, it was a great game!

  • sport

    Vasquez taking the last shot? Why? Dude is just awful!

  • spiderman

    coaches have a lot to think about

  • Joe what do you know

    Too bad… was pretty good and intense until 30s left…

  • takeme2cruz

    Glad it’s no overtime.

  • HVJoy

    Scola gets courtside post-game interview. very well spoken.

  • MKL

    Vasquez has a puchable face… just saying.

  • Click Click

    Yeah, preseason overtime is something no player wants.

  • Alaingrvis

    vasques is -14 geez

  • Epie

    Improvements, but no one was helping Lin. He didn’t have any help with screens. He had to do everything himself. Not happy about that, but good to see Nets playing hard.

  • joy

    I bet Lin wants to take down this game. Sigh.

  • sport

    hate it, no plays, no PnR, doesn’t feature main players, takes ball out of Lin’s hands. Atkinson seriously needs to add PnR. That’s 3 losses in a row not good for team’s confidence and emotions.

  • james brown

    its on the coaching staff..they need to be careful on how to plot their last seconds shots…

  • stam

    We need a better backup for jlin

  • Joe what do you know

    I think this game pretty much etched it in the stone about his roster spot being gone….

  • sport

    It’s been like that since 1 preseason game and it’s getting worst each game! Enough already, feature the PnR with Lin and Lopez as main offense!

  • Alaingrvis

    vasques shot makes no sense. Still 15 seconds left. That bench unit is bad. Starters will have to be mixed with them.

  • MKL

    They keep telling me Skil was good, but he has no touch inside or outside. He is a volume chucker.

  • JoeTeam

    21/1 then 12/7. Not bad, heading got a good stats season.

  • sport

    Best player of the game for sure.

  • aggressiveplayer

    We couldn’t really find an open man

  • Joe what do you know

    Plays like a rookie, thinks like a rookie….

  • joy

    Yeah, but he missed some important shots at the end.

  • Spyckie

    Alright – I’m going to say it. Skil hasn’t done anything to impress me. He hasn’t created a real shot for himself all preseason.

    Offensively he is worse than RHJ except he has a 3 point shot.

  • james brown

    coach need to tone him down or they are encouraging him to shoot freely? maybe it will change when regular season starts.

  • MKL

    Celtics left Vas wide open knowing he’ll miss. They were guarding Scola hard.

  • Spyckie

    Vasquez at the end showed us the same playmaking he’s showed all preseason. 🙂

  • HVJoy

    Are you at the game? Which teammate, do you think, has the best chemistry with Lin?

  • sport

    No brainer with Scola being the 3 point shooter on the floor.

  • Alaingrvis

    he only got 15 minutes so coach agrees with you

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m not so high on the over hyped kilpatrick and whitehead thoughout the preseason games so far

  • aggressiveplayer

    As much as I thought Kilpatrick was going to have a great season, I think you’re right. Dude showing that he cannot finish at the rim and he’s inconsistent at shooting the 3 ball.

  • MEL LIN

    I have the same feeling.

  • MKL

    Also, Bennett has terrible body language… he deflates on the court as the game progresses.

  • sport

    Yes bad body language, slow and out of shape too! Like seriously jogging down the court? Should be running right back, no hustle should be cut and not waste space.

  • Rick James

    I really really hope that the reason brook lopez isn’t playing much with lin is because atkinsons secret weapon pairing with Lin

  • Alaingrvis

    Vasques stats wise played ok. Coach seem to trust him more then Kilpatrick. His plus /minus is scary though

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yeah, i think Nets should cut their losses and let him walk. we need to make room for Yogi

  • Arsenium12 .

    Lin from a different angle
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/786722066166865920

  • Alaingrvis

    benett is ok. Talented misses some easy shot. Does get blocked often. Maybe his size for the PF position is the reason

  • Rick James

    yep, im happy seeing nets play hard on the defense. If they play up to their potential, the nets may possibly be a sleeper this season.

  • MEL LIN

    where’s lopez hahahaha

  • MKL

    Vas still has the injury recovery excuse. I’ve seen him played better before the injury. Question remains if he can recover his form.

  • Epie

    Wait, no CLICK tonight?

  • sport

    Can’t be helped since he was the best scorer on the floor, defense tightened on him. Might be different story in regular season games with the starters down the stretch.

  • Michael

    He is probably trying to edit Vasquez out of every frame…

  • Chris B.

    Brook is Lopez

  • Spyckie

    He looks like Lebron James going to the rim but then gets clobbered. I have no idea what to think. Like 90% of the shots he attempts I think strong moves and then he gets completely blocked. Like absolutely owned.

    Not sure if he just needs more experience or if he has just no danger sense of when he is going to get stuffed.

  • MKL

    Maybe he’s making a video.

  • Epie

    oh yeah, for sure 😛

  • Joe what do you know

    Lol😂 That is actually doing us all a big favour!

  • Michael

    If you see a black hole on the screen that’s him.

  • MEL LIN

    haha Brook is his first name = )

  • Rick James

    lol!

  • Alaingrvis

    Idk what we do about the second unit but it seems to fail every game in the third

  • sport

    Nets roster spots are limited, not sure if they have time to wait for him to recover. But so far he’s been awful.

  • Spyckie

    When we stop playing Vasquez and Bennett the bleeding will stop.

  • MEL LIN

    his defense was not good today. He almost fouled out.

  • sport

    ….Meanwhile both sat together looking dazed and confused… :/ I hope they talk to coach about this motion offense cause it’s not working.

  • Steppen03

    GREAT GAME!!!
    Considered that this Celtics team blowed out the Hornets in two games!
    Still have ways to go but it’s there on tape for the coaches and JLin to discuss!!!
    He’s the Leader now. He will have some Nice chatting with coaches and players.

  • Spyckie

    Agree, great game.

    I’m glad the coach is taking a hard look at these players and what they can do (sitting Lopez, running offense through Vasquez, Foye, Skil) – It gives a lot of clarity to what we can expect from these guys going forward.

  • Lin’s Highlights from tonight’s game, enjoy!

    https://youtu.be/Vvuc9_LQ1Ik

  • Spyckie

    You really are speed of Lin. Any future videos from other posters will be speed of Vasquez 😛

  • sport

    Will continue to miss 1st half due to work on weekdays so thanks! 😀

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin is really a matured player. He took what the defense gave him. 9 ft shots and 7 assist. He shouldn’t get in the lane to lay it up but made the most out of it

  • Epie

    Man.. at least 2 defenders on Lin

  • joy

    Everyone knows that’s the strongest weapon they have. The question is why he’s not using it.

  • Alaingrvis
  • Alaingrvis
  • Click Click

    They’ve already been using this image to promote the Nets for over a week:

    https://i.sli.mg/RvABQL.jpg

  • pandaboy99

    Only hope for this team is 40+ min lin

  • Elon Musk

    What was JLin’s stats tonight?

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    12/7 2 steals, 2 TOs 0-3 3pts. 6-9 FTs

  • Thanks, please subscribe if you’re enjoying the speed. I try to get highlights up within 15-20 minutes of the game ending so you can get a notification of when my videos are up if you don’t happen to be on this site.

  • Alaingrvis

    me as we because of college

  • Yura

    Wait, did we win?

  • HVJoy
  • Alaingrvis

    Netsdaily

    The offense:

    The Nets have averaged 33 3-point attempts in three preseason games thus far. Thursday night, they surpassed that and took 35. They made 10. On the flip side, they scored 40 points inside the paint and utilized the pick and roll game a little more. With Jeremy Lin on the bench, the offensive flow slows down mightily. And as we know by now, Kenny Atkinson wants an uptempo style of offense and without Lin; the Nets lose sight with Greivis Vasquez running the show.

    This might become an issue in the regular season.

  • Alaingrvis

    makes sense ok. Now it makes sense i though teams were defending it well.

  • Click Click

    Good game despite refs costing us the win with that bad no call when the ball went out of bounds on Boston twice. 3-point shooting was just bad tonight… kind of like last game.

    Lin’s shot was way off tonight, but he created for other players, had 7 assists, 2 steals, and 12 points. Booker dominated the boards and on defense. Very good game from Booker with his double-double. Bog is still being rested like Brook, but shot very efficiently. Can’t wait to see him in the starting lineup playing 30+ minutes a game soon.

    Scola had a good game tonight. Double-double with 5 assists. Got poked in the eye and probably played a bit too many minutes for a 36-year old in preseason. Scola made a lot of good, smart plays and hit 2 nice 3s.

    Kilpatrick was very aggressive and hustled all game. Still having some issues with finishing, but he’s looking confident. RHJ was aggressive too, but he’s ballhogging and not passing when he should be. Good defense and hustle tonight though, along with a nice block.

    Vasquez had a nice PnR play with Bennett, but other than that, these 2 were pretty bad tonight. Foye played decently and made some nice plays. Harris had a disappointing game at the 3-point line like Lin. He made good cuts and wasn’t bad on D though.

    Coach Kenny’s plan tonight was to play his actual lineups for regular season. No experimenting with the D-Leaguers and fringe guys. Still resting Brook and experimenting with lineups though. Overall, it was a good performance by the Nets,especially on the defensive end, against a better Celtics team. But 3-point shooting needs to improve.

  • Alaingrvis

    Fore may have to lead the second unit and start bog. Vasques cant run the second unit

  • sport

    Even with Lin the pace is still slow! No one’s running with Lin for fastbreak points!

  • Acbc

    Hey JT, long time bro. Nice to read you!

  • MEL LIN

    why would you not want to explore P & R Brook lin

  • sport

    Another coach who avoids the PnR?! Why?! This better be only for preseason.

  • Alaingrvis

    Coach said he is trying to set in the motion offense so not a lot of PNR yet. when that happens i bet the speed is better

  • HVJoy

    Inquiring minds want to know. 🙂

  • sport

    starting lineup?

  • Yura

    Thanks for your insight!

  • sport

    A lot of games will be loss if this doesn’t change soon! PnR needs to happen by regular season.

  • Vincent

    absolutely

  • Arsenium12 .
  • joy

    One of Lin’s best shots tonight!
    https://vine.co/v/5XQx77ArwIP

  • Monk

    I like the deliberate message showing Lin with the ball.

  • sws94

    I’m not sure Lopez is a PnR center. Lin played PnR with Hamilton in the last game. I don’t think KA is avoiding PnR with Lin, I think he’s playing to the strengths of Lopez, and Lin is skilled/flexible enough to adjust his game to fit Lopez’s strengths. It’s still pre-season, KA is still trying to find out what he has in RHJ and S Kilpatrick and others. He is a coach known for developing players, so the pre-season and maybe a good amount of the regular season will go into RHJ/Killpatrick development, and others.

  • Alaingrvis

    Lopez is actually known for his PNRs supposedly

  • Yura

    Can someone kindly explain what motion offense is. I get what Pick N Roll is but am very confused about motion offense.

  • Joe what do you know
  • Click Click
  • MEL LIN

    move the ball side to side, cut and attempt for layup if not no go pass out for three, screen- pick and pop

  • Alaingrvis

    It makes a lot of sense to force Lin and brook to play in the system because its new. PNR is easy to Lin and Lopez. So practice what you don’t know. I get what atkinson is doing

  • MEL LIN

    I think atkinson is trying to prove that his coaching makes a difference rather than just depending on their star players. Pride my friends

  • MEL LIN

    jlin need to nail those free throws. As a PG that should be automatic

  • Yura

    Thanks Click

  • guest

    The Motion offense is fine as it involves some picks and screens to free up a teammate in motion, but when Booker and Lopez sets picks or screens for Lin, they are not crashing to the net to draw the other player away from Lin nor providing an open man to pass to. Hopefully we see more in preseason, otherwise this may be a long 3 years under Kenny’s system.

  • sws94

    On the Nets board, they say he’s not a hard roller. We’ll see what develops with Lin/Lopez as the season unfolds. It’s still preseason. I think KA is thinking of the elements around Lin/Lopez, getting them to work, more than Lin/Lopez. I think he’s happy with Lin’s assists tonight. And if Lin hit a few perimeter shots and a few more FTs, he’s over 15 pts.

  • Win

    To be honest, I never follow the Nets after Yi left which was around 2010-2011. But I felt like Brook isn’t playing much different compare to how he had played 5-6 years ago. Awkward shot, slow, not really good at defense like his brother do. To me, the Brook today is no different than the Brook five years ago.

  • sws94

    3 years is a long time. A lot of changes in personnel can happen in that amount of time. As well as existing players improving. I think KA’s system is good. Now he has to figure out how to tweak it to the group he has, and get some bread and butter plays for his more skilled players like Lin, Lopez, and Scola.

  • guest

    Crashing to the net provides possible driving lanes as well because Lin will use the setter and player guarding them as a natural pick against the player guarding him.

  • Win

    IMO, Brook isn’t really good at PnR back then but his Jump shot was alright if I didn’t remembered it wrong.

  • Alaingrvis

    Kenny didn’t say no PNR that would make no sense. He just said he wants to “establish” the motion offense. PNR is already established in Lin and Lopez. Learning to play in a system allows you to learn other way to score. It really pus lopez and Lin no their toes

  • HVJoy

    Hopefully it’s because the coach believes motion offense will work for Nets like it did for Hawks previously.

    See Click’s post above.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I hope you’re right

  • Alaingrvis

    Yea players like ed davis are usually best for Lin. lopez seems athletic enough to do it. He has had some nice finishes. It will take a little time

  • JoeTeam

    Hiya … I’ve been busy with work and NBA has come on me like a Fall Cold … not ready for it. But it’s really nice to see JLin as a starter and hearing ppl talking about him as a starter. You were right! JLin has to start and so he is!

  • Click Click
  • GoJLin!

    Jlin helped them come back to the lead, Net almost win, but too bad, at 10.9 sec, Scola Jump Shot: Missed; at 7.9 sec, Booker Foul: (2 FTA), and BOS got those 2 FT; and at 2.9 sec, Vasquez 3pt Shot: Missed; so Net loss 97 to 100.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t agree more…. haha!

  • guest

    It worries me a little, even if it’s preseason, that they are not working on that aspect. You can only practice it so much behind the scenes, but when you’re playing against your own defensive schemes, does not mean it works in game. I’ve only seen a pick and pop with Lopez, where he gets to either shoot after a dump off from Lin, or drive to the net. Haven’t seen any PnR’s against other team defenses. 2 more games left. If we don’t see it then, it might be a rough start to the season.

  • Alaingrvis

    well we will see. Lopez seems more Like an athletic big al. We will see. Lin and al got it later in the year.

  • Click Click

    By the way, JHam did not play tonight at all for some reason. Kenny played Scola at the 5 instead.

  • Alaingrvis

    His defense an issue

  • guest

    100% agree!

  • Click Click

    Scola’s defense is worse at the 5.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Kenny says the PnR is definitely something he’d resort to maybe in clutch situations but right now he really wants to focus on the motion offense.

  • Alaingrvis

    idk i guess the veteran wins out just because of experience

  • Alaingrvis

    Lol using the PNR like a cheat code

  • Click Click

    Yeah, PnR is not an extremely difficult play to learn. Most of the Nets who run the PnR already know how to do it. Motion offense however, is very difficult because there are so many different sets and if even 1 person messes up, the play gets screwed up. Kenny wants to practice motion as much as possible before regular season starts. I doubt the Nets will be able to master half of the plays by the time regular season starts. It will take a while to get it all down.

  • GoJLin!

    Is tonight JHam’s off night? KA sit 2 players per night at preseason games.

  • Click Click

    Yeah, but he didn’t announce any players sitting out tonight. He sat out all D-Leaguers and camp invites plus JHam.

  • heart

    You and I and Vincent have the same worry. I guess KA is using the preseason game to establish offense schemes, phase by phase– motion first then pnr? Why not both at the same time against opponents in real game so he can collect more accurate data? It’s frustrating to see he keeps allowing the 3Q to go bad for four games straight.

  • guest

    Backwards thinking like Clifford. Let’s use something that works when we need it. Not like GSW who use it all the time for a 73-9 record.

  • heart

    Why would he only resort to use pnr in only clutch situations? It’s Lin’s bread and butter all day long, and it’s a winning strategy to win games. It’s one of the hardest offense to defend. They should practice pnr more to gel faster and to get more creative as they face different opponents.

  • Alaingrvis

    He didn’t say that. He just said the focus is to set the motion offense in

  • GoJLin!

    Ya, but I still hope Kenny can reward our patience by playing some PnR in the early regular season games.

  • guest

    It’s extremely difficult and that is why a lot of teams are not successful unless you have two quality players able to play. But again, Lin is unique because he plays off it and sees the whole floor. Not just the 2 players involved like other teams.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yup I didn’t say KA wouldn’t run PnR only in clutch situations. He just wants to get the motion offense right at the moment.

  • guest

    Like the motion offense, PnR has its own set of options depending on the players positioning on the floor and defense.

  • guest

    Don’t confuse PnR with a Give and go between two players although that is an option in PnR play. PnR makes defenses switch to help once the PnR set is established. Which opens up 3 pointers. Lin is a master of PnR.

  • CJSHYY

    Give them some RT & Click on this one… haha!

    https://twitter.com/YESNetwork/status/786720925081145344

  • aggressiveplayer

    Hearing this and Kenny’s explanation definitely helped me feel better about tonight’s loss. If the motion offense takes two months, so be it. I’m waiting patiently for the payout that comes with it.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Watching Lin play tonight from a really close seat, I realized how much faster he is up close. I was so proud to be his fan. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/637146def477b138551c8a3e3b48ad810b2c12e4c6edde294084ce2eb507939b.jpg

    A bunch of us, JLin fans from this site, met up at the game. Here’s a photo of us with Kevin from the Nets who goes out of his way to take care of Jeremy’s fans. He’s the reason I could offer free tickets at times to JLin fans. Thanks mods for connecting the fans. Email me if any fans need to connect with a real person at the Nets ticket department. I don’t work for the Nets but I will connect you to Kevin who really appreciates the fan base and the draw of Jeremy Lin.

  • joy

    “We definitely took a step forward in terms of defensive effort, in terms of urgency in terms of desperation,’’ said Jeremy Lin, who saw his team cough up the final six points to blow what seemed like a sure win. “I thought we played hard. That’s where it has to start for us. To be the hardest playing team, and from there we have a chance to win. That has to be our identity, has to be our everything.”

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/13/the-one-positive-the-nets-can-take-out-of-a-game-they-blew/

  • Click Click

    Nice! Are you the one completely decked out in Nets gear? :p

  • joy

    Haha, I was going to ask the same question.

  • Steppen03

    GREAT!!! Wish I could there with you guys!

  • Click Click

    I’m worse. I actually just bought a Lin t-shirt and Nets on-court pants after I promised myself to stop buying Lin/Nets gear. :/

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    well, you can’t just run pnr on every possession because it would tire Lin out and it would become too predictable. plus, Lopez isn’t much of a pnr big. AND, you wouldn’t want Kenny to just go out and say we’re going to run pnr to death because then teams will know exactly what we’re running even before the game starts. AND AND a lot of guys would feel left out and not give it all they’ve got – remember Melo? the pnr scheme isn’t very friendly to the SF position. it’s pretty much like saying the Point Guard and the PNR Big gets all of the plays which won’t sound too great to other players

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    No, I’m the one next to her bending down slightly.

  • Click Click

    Oh, disappointed in no Lin gear. :p

  • Rick Johnson

    Who else is in the picture?

  • heart

    No, he doesn’t have to say what he’s going to do. That’s unwise. But what he does reflects what he means and says. I’ll judge on his actions not words. I want Lin to succeed hence the question. What I saw tonight when Lin kept bringing up the ball, passed once, then went to stand in the corner gives me bad flashback of bad memory. Lin’s brother, Joseph, told us that Lin didn’t like to stand in the corner. Then I have a feeling that KA will use the rest of preseason games to practice motion offense…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    well, it is still preseason and that when it’s safe to try things out to see who can do what and in what kind of system. we all know there’s gonna be a lot of pnr’s but there has to be something to fall back on which is why Kenny is trying out the motion offense

  • Yura

    Then what about coaches like D’Antoni? Isn’t he known for running PnR? Doesn’t that make him a predictable coach?

  • heart

    My question is why doesn’t he incorporate both offenses playing against real opponents in real games so he can get more accurate data to review, and enhance chemistry at the same time. Teams are doing that right now. Chemistry, confidence and winning carry over to regular season…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it’s still preseason with a lot of young and lower tier players. can’t just expect them to run pnr all the time with this kind of personnel. Kenny is still feeling things out. remember, MDA was successful at running pnr with established teams when Nash and Lin ran it. Lin had a perfect group of guys for the pnr during Linsanity days. and MDA wasn’t very successful when he didn’t have the right personnel

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    still more preseason games to be played

  • Yura

    I get it now. Makes sense. 🙂

  • Mr Chuckles

    Oh funny, I thought you were a guy for some reason.

  • Yura

    I just watched the last few minutes. I thought his last play was very selfish.. or was he told to shoot?

  • Yura

    Yes, my thoughts EXACTLY. I thought it was selfish!

  • Yura

    Yup

  • cshot

    Completely agree. Dont panic yet guys lol

  • InfiniteWisdom

    Boy, what a confusing game today…. First quarter was the best quarter. i think we looked great. rebounding is a but of a problem but honestly, long rebounds are always gonna be tough. it’s just how the ball bounces. but we contested well, and lin shut IT down. then curiously they start the second quarter without lin? that unit suffered a bit, and by the time lin came in with the second unit, they were facing boston’s starters and that’s when it all went south. when lin was playing with that second unit, he wasnt the main guy. i pray to god that was by design. lin was very passive this game. i hope it was kenny telling him to let the others play to evaluate. but even after all that it was a close game. the 3rd was the usual in that i think the starters played well and then the bench collapse happened. the 4th was weird cuz boston already played their 3rd string and we had some starters out there trying to win a preseason game….

    quick player evals:

    lin: shot poorly today, even missing FT’s. got to he rim very easily. in general played very passively. not sure if kenny told him to let others shoot more. both him and brook took relatively few shots…

    foye: why is he still in the starting lineup? so much lineup experiments but never bogs starting?

    RHJ: took a step forward. attacked the rim, drew fouls.

    booker: again super solid. even hit a 3.

    brook: played very casually. hard to tell if this is the new offense or if kenny wants to evaluate others. if this is it, hard to imagine brook being a role player…

    vasquez: …ugh….

    bogs: played well in the short time he played.

    skil: not enough minutes for him again. i think kenny may not like his style of play.

    harris: sigh… couldnt shoot today. just one of those days

    scola: was great. only bad thing is tell him to post up more and drive less.

    bennett: this guy cant finish at all. i may have to admit im wrong cuz i see it now. this dude plays with no heart. does he want it even? or is he just collecting checks? dude legit got out rebounded by smart on one play…

    really missed hamilton today. all in all when it was starters vs starters we again held our ground vs supposedly the 2nd best team in the east. we’re gonna be all right.

  • james brown

    there were some instances during the fourth quarter of this game where Jlin tried to create using picks and no longer just giving ball after halfcourts. Its evident, KA instruction to make the motion offense works but it makes Jlin position a little left out on this because after 2 to 3 passes, kill and some other player tried to force their play to the basket. Motion offense is good in finding open players but it depends on where and how players position themselves.

  • Rick Johnson

    I like how IT ended up on the ground.

  • james brown

    it seems Lopez likes to Pick and Pop rather than to roll..He also like to create opening for himself rather than making opportunities for himself. evident on how he described the forthcoming season with him having more 3 on his arsenal

  • Steppen03

    THIS IS PRESEASON!!!
    Coach K is not trying to win games except maybe game #1 Vs Pistons. Trust in Coach K is like trust in JLin7 because coach wants success for JLin7 too.

  • heart

    Yep. Same thought. After passing around several rounds non-stop which eats up the clock, then often times the ball ends up w/ a player feet not yet set in place or not in their sweet spot to make good shot. Or when the ball ends up w/ the one who does not have court vision or skills to create own offense for themselves or others, they just drive into clogged lane or take contested shot. In addition, the one ends up with the ball may not have the feel of the game or bb iq to change momentum w/ the next play.

  • occupatio

    i have to say it is so refreshing and enjoyable to hear the team announcers so supportive of lin.
    on top of the fact that i liked the nets announcers to begin with.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    missing Eric Collins jokes already

  • occupatio

    haha. he had his good moments for sure. so goofy.

  • norah mackenzie

    i think that the nets played well and it was so close but kudos to the team

  • occupatio

    the tricky part is that the outlet pass SHOULD go to Lin in order to let him probe for opportunities in transition, but failing that, the motion offense dictates that he gives up the ball in the half court. in order for lin to get the first scoring opportunity in the motion offense, he would not be the first guy to probe in transition…

    no matter how well they run the motion offense, there remains this built-in problem to the situation.

  • joy

    Yeah, I watched it many times. 🙂

  • occupatio

    LOL

  • zxcvb

    Also, Celtics are projected to be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the East. And Lin had them winning when he was in, even against the starters. On a “cold” shooting night!

  • heart

    See my reply to James Brown. For sure, problems remain bc all players on the floor are being asked to execute similar duty but each player has different skill set….

  • james brown

    lets hope that come regular season, this will be corrected/sorted/worked out and used into perfection, otherwise this will be construed as stubbornness to use what is not working for the team.

  • james brown

    even the first game, it was evident that winning preseason game was not the plan but to see and experiment on how the rotation will be on the regular season. everybody wants to win and that includes all the players and coaches including Us. Lets hope that the soonest KA finds the combination he’s looking for, we will see rhythm on their games consistently.

  • orLinaryjoe

    So wishing I live in NY right now.

  • orLinaryjoe

    So refreshing not probe tweets to see if Lin will start!

  • heart

    And that would be disappointing bc KA said he lets the roster determines the system not the reverse. There is a reason why Lin repeatedly said PnR is one of his best strengths…He said it after game 1 interview.

  • joy

    For those who missed Lin’s post game interview in the locker room, here is part of it.

  • occupatio

    two things i want to say about the highlights.

    first, in lin’s first drive, once he gets his shoulders past thomas, he grabs thomas’ right hand with his offhand, to keep him from disrupting the dribble. he actually holds onto thomas’ hand like a whole second and lets go once he’s in the clear. wow, vet move. it’s the first time ive seen lin do this.

    and for the drive in which lin left thomas flat on his face (LOL) and goes for the reverse, not once does lin’s guide hand touch the ball. that was impressive.

  • KHuang

    The Nets’ SOLE problem?

    Atkinson doesn’t like it when any player other than Scola puts up too many shots.

    Never mind the fact that this is the NBA where the best shot usually is a forced one. Or that great scorers like Lopez and Bogdanovic and Harris and Hamilton and Lin need SHOT ATTEMPTS to make shots.

    Atkinson is preaching an equal opportunity offense where the Nets stars cater to the Nets nonscoring scrubs. Any high volume shooter who defies this gets BENCHED (i.e. Lin, Lopez, Harris, etc.)

    The less a player shoots, the more he plays for Atkinson. But NBA games are not won by brick laying scrubs shooting while hot shooting stars caddy them.

    Atkinson needs to learn that there is no such thing as “fairness” in the NBA, that you have your best chance of winning with your best scorers shooting as opposed to your worst scorers firing brick after brick.

  • Geoffrey

    main premise of motion offense: if you’re away from the ball, make sharp cuts and if you are close to the ball, set a screen away from the ball to free up a cutting teammate. sounds simple but very difficult to execute in fast game action.

  • heart

    Only two games left. I have a feeling KA insists on playing his motion offense experimentation w/ different line ups for the rest of preseason games. Constant changes in line up but only using one offense scheme to experiment? For four 4 straight game w/o Lin and Lopez pnr? You don’t worry but I am. It’s worrisome to me…

  • heart

    That is what I said “equal offense opportunity” for everyone or requiring everyone to execute similar duty, but not everyone has similar skill set or bb iq! What happens to “roster dictates system” not the reverse?

  • aggressiveplayer

    But it’s really just about whoever has the open look, which in theory should translate to efficient, high percentage shots. I know we’re disappointed and all, but I think I’m going to wait until January picks up then I’ll judge whether Atkinson implemented a successful system or not.

  • psalm234

    Jeremy Lin discusses pick and roll and motion offenses

  • occupatio

    there has been some nice execution in the motion offense. eg, lin hits harris at the top of the arc after he comes off an offball screen and gets another screen at the top. the timing on that was very nice. bogs could fill in for harris’ spot too.

    the motion offense really needs bogs with lin to really be impactful. so far, the lineups lin has played with hasnt really maximized what the motion offense can do bc the wing personnel isnt there.

  • occupatio

    was posted just below already

  • Brent Yen

    Motion offense requires fast reacting…..I like it, but they need to put line ups that fit it…

  • occupatio

    im hoping this is still experimental lineup stage. and that the later preseason games will start to show real lineups. thus far, it’s been wonky in terms of having the right parts around lin.

  • Spot

    It’s just preseason. Let’s wait meaningful games before jumping to conclusion.

  • psalm234

    Blaiyan highlights

    [0:40] Lin showed a great recovery after getting beat by IT on a drive to block his layup
    No more ‘deceptively quick’

  • Michael

    Saw that too, people used to think they could do whatever they wanted with Lin, because he didn’t protect himself enough. IT ended up on the floor today after one of Lin’s drives, well done.

  • psalm234

    ICYMI
    Full quote on Lin’s confidence in his team that they can compete with these NBA good teams

    The full context of @JLin7’s quote about the #Nets having more quality players than people realize.
    https://twitter.com/danclayt0n/status/786772031064961024

  • psalm234

    Thank you again for your hard work to coordinate the ticket purchases for Lin fans.
    Wish we could be there someday 🙂
    Everyone looks great! Where are the kids in the picture?

  • Brent Yen

    I think the imimpossible training helped a lot for both

  • Spot

    Maybe I am too optimistic but in my opinion Nets could be like Atlanta of 2 years ago.

    My only concern is if they are too young and waste too much energy in regular season.

    To me, in East, is Cleveland first, then Boston and then the Nets.

  • Brent Yen

    Let’s hope so….few games to go….seems good so far…..

  • Click Click

    Full HD 1080p / 60fps Highlights:

  • occupatio

    thanks for quality picture

  • occupatio

    what kind of training is that heh?

  • Brent Yen
  • occupatio

    hrm, when did lin do this?

  • joy

    Very true!

  • Sueki

    so you meant the good looking one 🙂

  • Steppen03

    I’m satisfied with us, The Nets, being #4-#5 EC. My take: 1) Cavs, 2) Raptors 3) Pacers 4) THE NETS. 5) Celtics.
    Even to be in #4 – we All from JLin7 ( 24-28pt & 8ast ). I believe he can deliver that. But we really need 2-3 great pieces to be fighting for #1 and #2. Overall, I like our chances. JLin7 will have many chances to be Mr. 4th Quarter.

  • hello

  • Steppen03

    But that’s where the “trusts” come into play… If you think they’re not good then … what team do you have ??

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    With their dad on the not so “close” seats!😀 We met met up a lounge during halftime so i had the kids stay in their seats. Too many to transport from the seats to another part of the arena through the crowd.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Welcome. Enjoy your time here.
    Please read this website rules: http://www.jlinportal.com/website-rules-must-read/

  • ok

  • xeroid

    Wait until season opens, it’s experiment right now. On regular season, both Lopez and Lin will be playing and shooting more and closing 4th quarter.

  • Maknusia

    Welcome…feel free to share your thoughts and/or anything on JLIN…cheers

  • Arsenium12 .

    For those who can read it, here’s Jeremy’s latest prayer request. Click to enlarge …
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    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/786881455636881410

  • KHuang

    NO WAY.

    Lin and Lopez won’t be permitted to win. I seriously doubt they’ll play much in the 4th quarter.

    Vasquez and Scola are the Nets’ new franchise players.

  • KHuang

    These ARE the real lineups.

    If anything, Lopez is in MORTAL DANGER of losing his starting position to Luis Scola.

    The better Lopez plays, the more he is benched.

  • KHuang

    This is NOT a motion offense that Atkinson is doing.

    It’s actually a FREEZOUT offense where the scorers are forcibly prevented from scoring.

  • KHuang

    NO.

    Preseason sets the tone for the regular season.

    Atkinson believes that the stars have to score less so that the scrubs can play more. It’s VERY CONSISTENT.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Here’s a read on Brooks. Waiting for this guy and Lin to play for real in reg season.
    Some hope:

    “The numbers back up Lopez’s multi-faceted game. Out of all NBA players, he’s recorded the third-most points out of pick-and-rolls, the second-most points on “cuts” (which includes baskets like dunks off dump-off passes at the rim), and the second-most points on post-ups. Those post-ups alone are a series of different moves: he’s comfortable spinning into the lane around defenders and pulling up in balance, hitting a defender with a series of rotations and jab-steps before splashing a fadeaway jumper, and has the touch to consistently finish shots through contact.
    Lopez’s 33-point game against the Pelicans at the end of January highlights his scoring diversity. In order: a put-back layup, a pick-and-pop jumper, a post-up on the right block into a layup, a spin move into the middle of the lane for a fadeaway jumper, a bank shot, a right hook, a cut for a statuesque dunk, a half-spin into a right-side leaner, a lurk for a layup, a pick-and-roll catch at the rim and-one, another right hook in the middle of the lane, and a cut for a two-hand slam to tie the game at 100. It was a full-package night.”

    http://thebrooklyngame.com/valuable-brook-lopez/

  • negsintheair

    IMO Atkinson already had a pre season play plan establish for each roster and for the team. I realized for JLin
    1 game: open pre season: all free but limited
    2 game: Jlin rest
    3 game: Jlin can’t play any PnR, he had find open men to shoot or shoot 3s
    4 game: Jlin can’t play any PnR and shoot limited 3s (in second half he was open for 3 but he passed ball) and he had to assist.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Anybody, jist of prayer?

  • orLinaryjoe

    Thought he had clean block.

  • orLinaryjoe

    No, no, no. Told you they were just holding back how good they are. They will surprise us in REGULAR season!

  • CJSHYY

    I believe Nets can play well. Just wait & see for regular season.

  • David Kim

    I am little concerning about hawks motion offense. In Brooks and coach’s interview, they will keep playing motion offense in regular season. In lin’s interview, he keeps saying there should be some nights of heavy PNR offense…
    I think both offense should be mixed..

    Vasquez is playing poorly now maybe because of surgery..? I think he might play better in PNR offense because he is not fast guy..

  • Maknusia

    Great Leadership there!

  • Vincent

    Relax guys this is just lockerroom talk. I know i was negative on atkinson earlier, but a lot of you guys are right its just pre season we have to see what happens in the first 5-10 games to make any judgement. After hearing lin and atkinsons interviews ihave more faith in their system.

  • gandychan

    Vasquez in his post game interview said this is just pre season and that he will be much better in the regular season. I sure hope so!

  • sws94

  • orLinaryjoe

    Post ups, good mid range, shot blocking. Must utilize his size and height, not so much on speed.

  • Michael

    He has a deceptively long hang-time and deceptively large hands.

  • psalm234

    Brooklyn Nets is all aboard the Lin AND-1 train

    The @JLin7 hustle in full force last night…AND 1. #Nets http://on.nba.com/2dRanat
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/786929586395226114

  • psalm234

    Our friend Greg from Sportige is correct.
    The Nets uptempo offense is heavily dependent on JLin. It proves his mettle as a leading PG in the NBA but a reliable backup PG would be needed so he can get some rests in the 82-game season (+ playoffs). Hope Vasquez find his playing form soon after the injury because Yogi and Whitehead are not ready yet

    [Sportige] Brooklyn Nets Hopelessly Dependent on Jeremy Lin
    http://sportige.com/brooklyn-nets-boston-celtics-jeremy-lin-kenny-atkinson-offense-defense-102612/
    But the most important thing is how the Nets play with Lin. The uptempo offense Atkinson keeps talking about exists, but only when Lin is playing. Shots aren’t forced as much. The ball moves. The players move. There’s a lot more pressure and flying around on defense. A lot more players get open looks. A lot more players set for open looks get the ball in the position they like and need. And it’s not just when Lin touches the ball, but it all begins with him setting a certain tone and pace, which fizzles away when he’s sitting on the bench, which has to be something Atkinson is worried about.

    Again, the loss (third in a row for the Nets) isn’t that big of a deal. The way the Nets seem to have this night & day look with Lin on/off the floor, is the thing to worry about, even if it’s flattering to Lin and proving a point about his worthiness as a leading point guard in this league.

  • psalm234

    Our friend Greg from Sportige is correct.
    The Nets uptempo offense is heavily dependent on JLin. It proves his mettle as a leading PG in the NBA but a reliable backup PG would be needed so he can get some rests in the 82-game season (+ playoffs). Hope Vasquez find his playing form soon after the injury because Yogi and Whitehead are simply not ready yet

    [Sportige] Brooklyn Nets Hopelessly Dependent on Jeremy Lin
    http://sportige.com/brooklyn-nets-boston-celtics-jeremy-lin-kenny-atkinson-offense-defense-102612/
    But the most important thing is how the Nets play with Lin. The uptempo offense Atkinson keeps talking about exists, but only when Lin is playing. Shots aren’t forced as much. The ball moves. The players move. There’s a lot more pressure and flying around on defense. A lot more players get open looks. A lot more players set for open looks get the ball in the position they like and need. And it’s not just when Lin touches the ball, but it all begins with him setting a certain tone and pace, which fizzles away when he’s sitting on the bench, which has to be something Atkinson is worried about.

    Again, the loss (third in a row for the Nets) isn’t that big of a deal. The way the Nets seem to have this night & day look with Lin on/off the floor, is the thing to worry about, even if it’s flattering to Lin and proving a point about his worthiness as a leading point guard in this league.

  • psalm234

    Prayer warriors, please pray for 7 items in the latest JLin’s prayer list

    How’s it going prayer warriors?

    I haven’t been great with sending out my prayer requests, but with most of my move to Brooklyn done and pre-season well on its way, it’s a perfect time to get back on this. So here we go:

    1 Thankful for an amazing summer. Highlights included the Asia trip, awesome summer of training (specifically in fully changing my shot to my new form), the birth of my nephew Jaden, signing with Brooklyn and getting quality time with my family/friends.
    2 Praise God for a chance to be healthy and play for the Brooklyn Nets. I’ve had a ton of fun being back in a position of leadership as the starting point guard of this team. It’s natural to me to be a leader and I feel most comfortable in this position, so Im extremely thankful for the chance to lead this team alongside Brook and Coach Kenny.
    3 Recently, I’ve committed to praying out loud (helps with my concentration during prayer) for 30 minutes a day and I’m thankful that my prayer life has taken a big jump forward. I enjoy praying for others more, prayer has become more natural and I feel closer to God through prayer.
    4 Please pray for this upcoming season. Not only that we would play well and far exceed expectations (which let’s just be honest, aren’t very high right now lol), but that there would be revival on our team. I’m hoping my teammates come to Christ, that lives are transformed and that we experience God’s power on AND off the court this season.
    5 Prayer that our team would gel quickly in terms of building friendships and learning how to play with each other well on the court. With many new players, many young players and a new coaching staff, we are all trying to figure things out on the fly due to lack of continuity from last year.
    6 Prayer for the US and the social justice issues, as well as the presidential campaign. I feel like this is a pivotal time for our country, and I pray that people would turn to Christ.
    7 Prayer for Ava Lee as she continues to fight cancer. For more on her story, check out my previous post.

    Thanks everybody!!

  • heart

    I feel like a broken record–>Don’t get me wrong, my prayer and hope is to see Lin and Kenny succeed together. That’s why when we see obvious weaknesses that need correction/change, we need to point them out. So the team can have a chance to be competitive given the talents surrounding Lin at the moment. Remember, this is KA’s first NBA coaching experience. He said that he will let the “roster dictates the system”, but thus far he’s insisting that players playing in”his system”. How many times we have heard Lin said PnR is one of his best strengths? He even repeated after game 1. So many things I want to say, but I reserve my full judgement until regular season.

  • heart

    Gist: Prayers are needed all around for the upcoming season, teammates, country, and health for Eva.

  • David Kim

    How about foye playing some minutes as a PG? Foye and Vasquez can share some minutes for backup PG.

  • norah mackenzie

    foye is better – i know that it is pre season but unless they clone vasquez before the regular season starts he really isnt impressing me imho.

  • Yura

    Makes no sense to me. Everyone in the Nets team are working their butt off in the pre season. So why is Vasquez the only one that will play “better” in the regular season? His work ethics is questionable.

  • Maknusia

    Up from the depths: How Jeremy Lin got back on point

    Exactly a year earlier, after a season gone wrong with the L.A. Lakers, Lin had no suitors.

    He felt the way he had felt before “Linsanity,” when he was simply trying to hang on for his NBA life. His joy for the game had evaporated.

    “I couldn’t even get the minimum from certain teams,” Lin said. “That showed me how low my market value was. Obviously, I was offended. I just couldn’t understand it.”

    The Nets had targeted Lin with their mini-midlevel exception, sources said, but according to Lin, “they were never legitimately a contender in terms of where I wanted to go.”

    Brooklyn wound up splitting its mini-midlevel between Shane Larkin and Wayne Ellington.

    Lin wanted to play in Dallas, but the Mavericks brought in former Nets guard Deron Williams after Brooklyn completed a buyout with the three-time All-Star point guard. Lin settled for a two-year, $4.3 million deal with the Charlotte Hornets, which included a second-year player option.

    “I could count so many players that had a higher market value and a higher contract. It was just like, ‘Wow,'” said Lin, who was the 246th-highest paid NBA player last season, according to ESPN contract data. “I didn’t realize that my value had dropped so much during my one season with the Lakers.”

    In Charlotte, however, Lin flourished. Empowered by a defined role (sparkplug reserve) and a coach (Steve Clifford) who believed in him, Lin revitalized his career and rediscovered his passion for basketball, helping the Hornets make the playoffs.

    “If you look at the season with the Hornets and my season with the Lakers, statistically, they’re pretty much the same,” Lin said. “And maybe it’s perception or whatever happened with the Lakers, and the fact that we were getting blown out on national TV consistently — I don’t know what it was. Was it fair? Do I think I’m worth more than that? Yeah, I think I’m worth more than the veteran’s minimum.”

    Lin proved as much with the Hornets. His value had been restored.

    Lin took three weeks to clear his mind after the Hornets were eliminated from the postseason, and then met with his co-agents, Jim Tanner and Roger Montgomery, before departing for a three-week trip to Asia.

    Re-signing with Charlotte was not an option because the Hornets did not own Lin’s Bird rights — which prohibited them from exceeding the salary cap to sign him — and needed to give raises to starters Nicolas Batum and Marvin Williams in order to keep them.

    Yet, as July 1, 2016 neared, after one season in Charlotte, Lin was drawing interest from other teams again. He said being a wanted man in free agency was “stressful, but a good stressful.”

    During the Nets’ meeting with Lin, which included Marks, Atkinson, other front-office people and franchise center Brook Lopez, the Nets made a compelling pitch featuring their ever-evolving system and culture.

    “We were showing the positives of playing out here,” Lopez said. “Obviously, he knows that firsthand from playing with the Knicks, but just how we can benefit from him and how he can benefit from us — that sort of symbiotic relationship. We just kept harping on the differences in our organization and the franchise as a whole from the top down.”

    Marks and Atkinson did most of the talking, Lopez said, but the Nets left unsure of where they stood, according to sources.

    Lin was highly intrigued about the possibility of teaming up with Pelicans star Anthony Davis and playing for Alvin Gentry in New Orleans’ D’Antoni-inspired offense, sources said. But the Pelicans weren’t willing to pay what the Nets were, paving the way for Lin’s return to New York.

    Brooklyn also made sure Lin knew he was their top priority, and they treated him that way, sources said. Lopez said Lin texted the center before making the move public.

    “It’s so huge for me, just having a guy who’s such a downhill driver,” said Lopez, the other half of Brook-Lin’s pick-and-roll tandem. “He draws so much attention that it makes it easier for everyone else on the floor since he’s such a willing passer.”

    “That’s kind of what I’ve been my whole life, is the starting point guard and the leader of the team, and for me to be back in that position, I’m just like, ‘Man, this is really cool.’ And it feels natural again. The last three years, I’ve kind of been a backup or lost in the mix. Here, everything just seems so much more clear.”

  • BobbyH

    During a timeout last game, I saw Lin and Atkinson each grasping a board. Did I see it wrong?

  • 1mtoldman

    the melo one seems to be going on and on in a continuing vendetta against slam magazine because in his view they ranked him too low in their top 50 player ratings.

    i dont get it. they ranked him 15th. there have been multiple other preseason nba player rankings and they all ranked anthony much lower than that!

    was he just not paying attention before? why this ongoing rant against the publication that has rated him the best yet this season as far as i know?

    maybe its because its the lowest they have ever rated him. but i mean obviously hes clearly past his prime @ 32.

    again: no one else has given him this much respect and yet keeps bashing the magazine saying among other things that it has lost all credibility. weird.

    also: another interesting headline related to knicks/melo, ” knicks, carmelo anthony sound naive to realities of derrick rose’s trial.”

    then of course there’s the “suicide” of the investigator who was the one that publicly announced an ongoing criminal investigation of rose.

    new york, new york that’s a …..of a town/

  • 1mtoldman

    all nets boards are ready to give vasquez the heaveho and the word that comes up the most often is “lazy”.

  • Click Click

    Just a distraction from the fact that DRose can’t even practice with the Knicks and that Noah is consistently injured. Their “superteam” is falling apart in preseason already. Plus, Melo is a salty, egotistical, vain individual. It’s really that simple of an explanation.

  • CJSHYY

    No, saw Atkinson bought a board to talk w Lin…. I think lots of game plan coach discuss w Lin….

  • spiderman

    Vasquez is a liability as this point.

  • spiderman

    He may still be recovering, but if he’s not ready, he’s not ready.
    Need to move on to someone who is ready

  • aggressiveplayer

    I’d say beyond first 5-10 games maybe even. I think we’ll get rolling in January.

  • Rick James

    I am dissapointed, frankly I was expecting a more rowdy group…ah well.

  • Vincent

    Agreed, but as a player it may take lin 5-10 games to adapt

  • CJSHYY
  • takeme2cruz

    Lol. Don’t tell me Lin didn’t read IT’s tweet last year about mocking Lin’s all-star voting number.

  • KHuang

    You’ll be proven WRONG.

  • KHuang

    That’s A LOT OF NEEDLESS LOSING until then.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea, maybe 5-10 games to adapt and more to become fully comfortable in it.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Got a link to that?

  • takeme2cruz

    My mistake, it’s his quote which was twitted out:

    “People send it to me,” Thomas said Monday night after scoring 20 points in his team’s 118-113 loss to the Dallas Mavericks. “So I’m not going to lie, I do see it. I don’t (get frustrated) because the voting is a popularity contest. No disrespect but you’ve got guys like Jeremy Lin getting a lot of votes. I can’t do nothing about that. It is what it is when it comes to the voting part. But hopefully the coaches give it to me.”

    http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/01/boston_celtics_isaiah_thomas_t_1.html

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  • aggressiveplayer

    I can see where he’s coming from, but dam.. I don’t think the “no offense” makes it any better.

  • Click Click

    People who preface their comments with “no offense,” or “no disrespect,” usually knows it’s offensive or disrespectful to say what they’re about to say.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes and very much singled Lin out.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Isaiah Thomas didn’t have a good game vs Lin yesterday, so there’s that.. On a cold shooting night for Lin too. If Lin can manhandle him again I think he’ll reconsider what he said last year 😉

  • kauaiblue

    Heh heh…

  • kauaiblue

    That was so offensive… thomas is a little man (in all senses)…

  • takeme2cruz

    We will a lot of those this season.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Slow day today.. not much Lin or Nets news/media

  • aggressiveplayer

    That aside, I hope Greivis Vasquez plays much better once the season starts like he says..

  • aggressiveplayer
  • David Kim

    Realgm, Reddit, Netsdaily… They all praise Lin…..
    This season will be really fun for not only Lin fans but also all the Nets fans…..

  • Click Click

    jlin7 Lunch time with Grandma!! She told me to shoot more lolll

  • freemind

    those are some giant rice bowl … or grandma knows best and that dry noodle in there 🙂

    his grandma lives in NY ??

  • Click Click

    Chinese takeout. Because it’s in Brooklyn, they get xiaolongbao (little dragon buns / soup pork dumplings) so easily. I’m jealous.

  • freemind

    many closet fans …secretly ‘haters’ tune in to spy on him too lol

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is Jeremy with his Grandma at his brother Josh’s wedding in 2011 ….
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    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d9ade659c85bc2354e38366632ba0a99344b43955a625b397a0823248ad7e36.jpg

  • Click Click

    He’s improved slightly, but his shot is still awful. However, I’m not going to bash him like others here. He’s obviously not going all-out in preseason because he doesn’t want to re-injure himself. Hopefully he regains his shape and form by the end of this month / next month. We need him to be a quality backup to Lin and lead the 2nd unit.

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  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea I’m hoping he regains his shape. He’s looked bad in preseason but that’s okay as long as he’s back and ready to roll again when the season comes along. I think January is where we should all start worrying if things still don’t look good.

  • takeme2cruz

    His mom kind of looks like her.

  • Chris B.

    Wish we have Jusf Nurkic of Denver. That guy is a beast on both ends of the court. Sean Mark should have spent more time scouting for guys like him overseas. Even a guy like Zubec of Lakers would make Nets a force inside.

  • TVN

    Nurkic was drafted 16th in 2014 and Zubac was an early 2nd Rounder in the last draft. The Nets didn’t have the means to get either player.

  • lleepar

    It’s great that Jeremy has been having good games. But I hope this finally is the year when he can have an occasional bad shooting game — and the basketball world won’t start in with their tiresome mantras about how it proves he not a starting caliber PG.

    I’ve had too many years watching starting PGs have occasional lousy shooting games, and it never seems to affect their reputation as a starter. John Wall only made one of his six free throw attempts last night, and he whiffed on all three of his 3PT attempts. It happens. I hope that, this year, Jeremy will be given the same benefits of the doubt.

  • Click Click

    We all know Lin and Lin fans held to a different, much higher standard, a double standard. Other players and fans get treated differently. I doubt that’ll change, but maybe Lin can finally prove that he’s a top-tier starting PG in the league this year.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    It looks like this is a takeaway meal either in JLin’s or his grandma’s. My guess is grandma’s place because of the utensils that are used:-)

    Yummy food!

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Yes she is. Believe she is a retired MD. She supported JLin when he studied in Harvard. My guess is at least the 4th year when his parents lost their jobs from recent interview.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    JLin also mentioned numerous times that they talked about game plans…… Just wonder how common it’s for a team leader talks to his hc about games…..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    In the final minute, the Nets was still ahead 97:94. Two fouls calls awarded the Celtics 4 FTs that they made it. Luis Scola missed once and Greivis Vasquez also missed two shots within that time span too.

    The coach, Atkinson, closed the game with Greivis Vasquez, Luis Scolor, Trevor Booker, Sean Kilpatrick, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson; clearly not a winning combination because none of them are good shooters. They couldn’t score.

    My conclusion would be that the PG held the ball too long and finally settled with two missing shots.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Not really sure if the plan was for Vasquez to take the shot but it looks like they actually couldn’t find an open man for the last shot.

  • Lin Dunn

    Is Jlin eating soup b/c that is a soup bowl in front of him. Is this the grand M who use her own money to put him through Harvard.

  • Click Click

    You forgot to mention the blown call by refs that led to the foul call. The ball clearly bounced out of bounds TWICE, last touched by the Celtics and it wasn’t called.

    Also, no player except D-Leaguers and fringe players trying to make the roster wants overtime in preseason. I’m not happy Nets lost last night, but I’m glad they didn’t tie it either.

  • Lin Dunn

    Soup pork dumpling, and he double down against soup?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Byron Scott really hurt his players’ future.

  • Click Click

    I let my xiao long bao cool down a bit before eating it. Some people bite into the skin and let the soup drain out if they don’t like it or think it’s too hot. It’s not actual soup, just some broth put into the bun / dumpling to make it juicy.

  • Click Click

    There’ no soup. Asians often eat rice and food in bowls. Bowls aren’t just for soup and noodles.

  • Lin Dunn

    Getting technical about what is soup. Jlin does not like hot liquid, even coffee. LOL

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Well this game might decide the future of Kilpatrick. He probably would be sent to the D-league soon. Atkinson could give the minutes to Harris instead.

  • lleepar
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    One thing that catches my eyes in the last game is the minutes that Trevor Booker is allowed to play. He played the most minutes for the team; 30 minutes. The next is Scolar’s 28 and Jeremy’s 27 minutes.

  • Alaingrvis

    Like i said yesterday. Foye either need to go to the bench or Lin and/or Lopez needs to be on court at all time. even then i think foye or Lin needs to be there as well.

  • freemind

    is this his way of announcing he is now officially with RocNation?

    https://shop.rocnation.com/hats/paper-plane-old-school-black-under-visor.html?color=#

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The top priority for the team is to find the best players to compete this season rather than developing those young players not ready to play at NBA level.

  • Steppen03

    In the entire course of a game, JLin7 will find answers to problems. He will NOT have “bad” games for this Nets team.
    As for this season, the main focus is: Winning games. Everything else is secondary.

  • spiderman

    I’d like to see Booker off the bench

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I also don’t understand all these talks about development instead of trying to win as many games as possible.

  • grover chang

    PNR maybe predictable but if the two guys running it are elite then you may predict the PNR but that doesn’t mean you will stop it. Why am I getting the sense from KA that PNR is a bad thing. It’s not. It’s a great play.

  • BobbyH

    Totally agree. His bad games are only those games not winning.

  • Steppen03

    “Development” is just a cover-up. The Nets, of course, want to win every games in the regular season. The signings of Crabbe and Tyler wasn’t a success. I don’t think the idea is for development at the expense of losing games. They cannot tank. JLin7 wouldn’t have signed for that!

  • JLin fan from Australia

  • Steppen03

    No. His bad games was when he’s on a short leash and misused. The Nets will not win 82 games – I can tell you that – BUT JLin7 will enjoyed every games.

  • lleepar

    This article proclaims that “Brook Lopez remains the face of the Nets’ franchise …” and I’m perfectly okay with someone claiming that. But that’s also why I’m still struggling to get a handle on the attitudes of a segment of the established Nets fan base towards BLo.

    When Jeremy first signed with the Nets in early July, the Nets fan base made sure us new fans understood that the Nets was Brook’s team and that he was the Nets’ best player. Many of them even allowed that they were glad to have Jeremy on board, given their limited options, and that “he’d do” until they could attract a “real” PG.

    But in that same environment, there seems to be a fair number of Nets fans who’d gladly trade Lopez for a couple of picks and some filler. I couldn’t be more dumbfounded by these posts if I’d wandered over to a Cavs forum and had fans wondering what they could get for Lebron. I just don’t get possible Lopez trade mentions by Net fans.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Interesting point about the RocNation hat … . He’s not listed on their site yet.
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    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d878a7b7648f647cb479f8548c9fb37804622d5f5ae7005ba3d5c3c2c0832ede.jpg

  • aggressiveplayer

    The Nets tried to do that with a “win now” mentality a few years ago. It didn’t turn out well. They NEED to develop young players in order to set themselves up for a successful future. It’s not entirely about winning now (although they’d like to) because the Nets need assets that they don’t have. The best way to gain assets is to build them up and spend wisely with your money.

  • lleepar

    We’ll see what the coach actually does the rest of the year. Right now, he seems to be exploring other scoring options. I’m okay with that, for now. If the team doesn’t have those other options, I’m afraid that Jeremy is going to have three defenders up in his jersey for whole games at a time. Opponents are probably going to do that anyway, but the coach has to have the ability to make the opponents pay a price for doing that.

  • heart

    I think the last shot was meant for Scola, but he passed to Vasquez bc he couldn’t get open looks. The drawn play and the players didn’t confuse the defenders enough to get open space for a good look. Very deflating ending!

  • Click Click
  • Steppen03

    Oh, no worries… Jeremy Lin will. Probably 25pt to 30pt. and the Win… Next game and First game in regular.

  • David Kim

    Lin said he and guard Greivis Vasquez love making pick-and-roll plays, but they also recognize the need to involve other shooters. “We understand that we need variety,” Lin said. “So, if we stay in the pick-and-roll, that becomes a little predictable. If we’re able to hit (opponents) from different angles, that’s really what I’m going for . . . Why not try to find something where we can put it all together? That’s the goal.”

  • Steppen03

    Simple truth: Biggest Ego. If you’re That good – you don’t have to care what others said about you. This is further proof of how Melo would react to JLin’s popularity.

  • zxcvb

    And he’s right. When the real games begin, they can always fall back on PnR. But for preseason, Kenny wants to work on the motion offense…which is ultimately the best and toughest system to defend.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here are Greg Anthony and, again, Isiah Thomas speaking quite highly of Jeremy, during last season …
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  • grover chang

    What’s RHJ doing? Watching him really ruins the game for me. Motion offense means you are suppose to adjust and make decisions. That means the players need to think. RHJ irritates me because he reads ” go ISO 1 on 3″. How is that part of the offense? Maybe he thinks he is Jeremy Lin and could pull those plays off. But he can’t. I really hope coaching makes him smarter.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    What shooters exactly?….Not on the starting line-up….and this is my problem…the motion offense is best utilized when you have 3-4 good shooters…the starting 5 will see only Lin as an average shooters IF Foye start.

    Booker, RHJ, Lopez and Foye aren’t known as shooters so passing the ball around to them on the perimeter makes no sense.

    Now, on the second unit, with Scola, Hamilton, Harris and Bojan, you could run such offense well.

  • aggressiveplayer

    But maybe coach asked him to just be aggressive during preseason and don’t worry too much about making the right play. Just be aggressive and review what he could have done better afterwards.

  • spiderman

    would like to seem him come off the bench with booker

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’ll admit that I’m getting a bit nervous about Kenny too and his massive obsession with this motion offense.

    I’m hoping that when regular season starts, we will see a greater mixture of PnR actions alongside the motion offense….I feel it doesn’t make sense to have a PnR point guard and Lin and a scoring big man like Lopez and not try to see whether they could be lethal.

    Lopez is not as athletic as Chandler or Davis, but I could see him and Lin work well together, but they need to at least see how it looks or even if they are compatible.

    We still do not know whether they could be great PnR partner because Kenny only wants to run motion offense with no shooters in the starting line-up.

    I’m beginning to think the only reason Kenny preferred Lin to Rando is because Lin would accept this type of offense more while Rando would rebel against it since he wants the ball in his hands 24/7.

  • Chris B.

    I really believe that the team and Jeremy purposely forced feed RHJ and asked him to be aggressive to slash and drive more as another ball handler on the first team. However, he is such a low BBIQ player and doesn’t realize that it doesn’t mean he should be driving against 5 defenders waiting for him when they are laying off him and daring him to shoot. He should be taking the shot or pass the ball instead of putting his head down and plow into 5 defenders just so that he can chuck off a wild shot.

  • grover chang

    Why it rubs me the wrong way. The motion offense means you are also taking in consideration of your teammates. You are working together. When he does selfish plays like that he looks inconsiderate.

    At least the other guys like Booker are trying to play together but just can’t always have the talent to finish. But at least he is being considerate.

    I don’t like the vibe I’m getting from RHJ. His rookie contract is up. He needs to get his points in the game to get the big contract later. That type of selfish attitude could destroy anything the Nets try to build and be contagious to other players.

    You stay unselfish and play together then Lin will be sure everyone has a big pay day.

  • Michael

    If I could agree with you more, we’d be twins. That’s my feeling every single time he touches the ball. he puts the ball on the floor the second he catches it.

  • Spyckie

    KA has a preset plan for subs. If you look at the minutes, they are spread out very evenly over people he wants to test out.

    He wants to see how lineups play together.

  • Michael

    He’s a superstar scoring talent…..whatever that means.

  • Spyckie

    This game’s first quarter defense was much better than the last two. They need the footspeed of Foye, RHJ and Booker to be able to rotate and make sure that Brook doesn’t get caught guarding the PnRs.

    Brook is not fast enough to switch, hedge, or trap so he zones. But it is difficult for him to step up and contest or he’ll get driven by. That’s fine if someone else has rotated down low to stop the drive but I don’t think we’re there yet. That requires much more coordination with the team to hit their defensive spots quickly.

  • Steppen03

    If JLin7 lead this Nets team to 40+ wins, this WILL even surprise the people in the Nets org including coaches and FO. With that said, Coach KA is not heading in to expect a “low” season.

  • Michael

    Noticed a lot of the retired true PG’s all think highly of Lin (add Nash and Kenny Smith int there)

  • 1mtoldman

    latest bleacher report rankings have hornets 8th overall in the nba 4th in the east only behind cleve, boston and toronto; suggest defensive improvement with hibbert/mkg will offset any lost offense.

  • takeme2cruz

    Lots of college interns write articles over there.

  • 1mtoldman

    marc stein says j.r. smith cavs have come to terms.

    meanwhile cavs resting their 10 top players playing what one writer called their “junior high” roster; running all over the bulls playing their regular rotation minus only butler.

  • 1mtoldman

    grant hughes billed as “NBA National Featured Columnist at Bleacher Report “

  • LAJane

    Hopefully the idea is encourage him to do what he thinks is his best so he has the chance to make those mistakes and get the learning experience in pre-season. For sure Atkinson will be reviewing the mistakes with him…doesn’t seem like the kind of coach that would just let it ride. Remains to be seen whether he learns or not. Seems like he might be one of those guys KHuang talks about who jump to the NBA before getting the full college grounding in fundamentals.

  • takeme2cruz

    Have you seen a movie advertising big name actor but only appears a few minutes? Yes that is what Grant does.

  • Acbc

    What this team has now is what players they’ve got. Building a high character team means that it falls on the high character team mates to help develop them. This is part of the culture of inclusive team building. It means you don’t give up on people. You make them better!

    IMO, winning for the sake of winning without the rest of the team means you aren’t building anymore. Morey would turn around and change players. The Spurs rarely get rid of draft picks and instead take years to build them. You just cannot take short cuts. Lin and Lopez realizes this.

    Atkinson knows that Lin learned to play PNR with Chandler overnight with no practice time together during linsanity. Playing with Lopez would be like riding a bike, it’s that easy. The big question is how do you build a fledgling team with 2 guys. Sure you can win 35-40 games riding them and maybe even risk injuring them. But that’s not team building. To Mae the Nets a viable contender, you need everyone to raise their level.

    IMO, THIS IS WHY ATKINSON IS MAKING THE SECOND TIER TEAMS WORK AND OVER FEEDING THEM THE BALL.

  • Arsenium12 .

    JR gets 4 years — $57 million
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    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/787091504833695746

  • Chris B.

    I just don’t think he is capable of learning. I have seen KA used RHJ as a point forward since summer league, and he still committing the same egregious mistakes by forcing himself to the rim with multiple defenders waiting for him. I would love to for him to be a Landry Field or Shumpert kinda players, but I think he has gotten enough chances. He could derail the season with his selfish plays if this keep up. He does have the physical tools, and Nets don’t have many options, but at some points, they have to quit with the experiment to avoid jeopardizing the season.

  • Click Click

    Nets’ biggest strength is the play they’re avoiding

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/nets-biggest-strength-is-the-play-theyre-avoiding/

    With a beleaguered bench and dodgy defense, Brook Lopez and Jeremy Lin running the pick-and-roll — Brook-Lin — is probably the one thing the Nets can count on this regular season.

    It’s also the one thing conspicuously absent this preseason. Lopez logged just 32 minutes through the first three preseason games — sitting out the second one — and the Nets essentially eschewed their prime pick-and-roll combo Thursday in favor of their continued crash course in coach Kenny Atkinson’s motion offense.

    “I really want to establish our motion offense, [not] come down and run a pick-and-roll every time,’’ Atkinson said. “Obviously, we’re going to need that in important times. But right now we’re trying to get the ball moving, trying to get the ball side to side, get everybody their touches. And Brook and Jeremy, they’re both going to have to learn to work within that dynamic.

    “When it’s crunch time we can think about drawing up special plays for them, or getting into a pick and roll with those two. But we’ve still got to progress with our offense, and that’s where we are right now. So we’re not going to rely on that, just run a 1-5 pick-and-roll every time down the court.”

    Atkinson has acknowledged the importance of that pick-and-roll combination, and likened it to an NFL team establishing the running game.

    But with Atkinson installing a motion offense akin to the one used in Atlanta, and with 15 of the 20 players in camp newcomers, he’s less concerned about a single bread-and-butter play they’re familiar with and more focused on getting them up to speed in a balanced offense they haven’t run.

    “Every game is going to have its own personality,’’ Lin said. “There are going to be some games where there’s going to be heavy pick-and-roll and there’s going to be some games where you’ve got to mix it up. But for us right now, we understand that we need variety, and we have so many different types of players, so if we stay in the pick-and-roll, at some point that becomes a little predictable.

    “If we’re able to hit them from a lot of different angles, that’s really what I’m going for. Obviously, if there’s one night where it’s working really well, we’ll go to it. But we have Brook back-to-the basket. We have shooters, Joe [Harris], Randy [Foye], Sean [Kilpatrick], coming off staggers. Then we have pick-and-roll guys, me and Greivis [Vasquez], who love making plays out of the pick-and-roll, so why not try to find something where we can put it all together? That’s kind of the goal.”

    Vasquez ran the pick-and-roll several times in Thursday’s 100-97 loss to the Celtics, including one for an Anthony Bennett dunk, Bennett’s only points in a 1-for-9 shooting night.

    But the pick-and-roll has always been the strongest part of Lin’s game, even going back to his Linsanity days in the Garden. And Lopez was fourth in the NBA in points scored (315) as the roll man in the pick-and-roll.

    Granted, Lopez’s efficiency didn’t measure up to his volume. The Nets’ star center was just 95th in shooting percentage (.491) and an even-worse 109th in points-per-possession (0.99). Brooklyn is banking on Lin being able to eventually help Lopez boost both of those figures — once the rest of the offense is down pat.

    “Yeah, no question. The process will definitely continue over the regular season as well,’’ Lopez said. “We have so many new bodies, new faces that we’re getting to know each other and know the system. We’re learning on the fly. But we have lots of intelligent, smart and selfless guys here, so we’re picking it up quick and we’re enjoying playing with each other.”

  • aggressiveplayer

    Great to hear Atkinson isn’t purposely avoiding the pick and roll. He just really wants the players to get the motion offense right. And I’m going to believe it’ll be deadly once all the players are flowing within the system.

  • Click Click

    Which is exactly what I said yesterday…

    Yeah, PnR is not an extremely difficult play to learn. Most of the Nets who run the PnR already know how to do it. Motion offense however, is very difficult because there are so many different sets and if even 1 person messes up, the play gets screwed up. Kenny wants to practice motion as much as possible before regular season starts. I doubt the Nets will be able to master half of the plays by the time regular season starts. It will take a while to get it all down.

    Too many people get all worked up and freak out just because Kenny isn’t doing what THEY want and expected him to do. Kenny doesn’t think nor operate like fans or even most coaches do. He’s got a plan and he’s sticking with that plan until it no longer works.

  • kauaiblue

    Was the playing schedule that KA would rest players 2 preseason games? If so, jlin would skip either celtics on monda or thursday against knicks… what do u think? Which game will he not play in?

  • Click Click

    Even Wall Street Journal is writing articles on Lin…

    Is New York on the Verge of a Second “Linsanity”?

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/is-new-york-on-the-verge-of-a-second-linsanity-1476487055

    If New Yorkers are willing to overemphasize a three-game sample while also ignoring the fact that the NBA preseason is relatively meaningless, then there’s some tremendous news afoot: Linsanity is back!

    After signing a three-year, $36 million contract with the Nets in July, Jeremy Lin is back in the city, where he became a breakout star during the second half of the Knicks’ tumultuous 2011-12 season. That season ended with knee surgery and an exit from New York. He’s played for three other franchises over the last four seasons, but in case anyone has forgotten the 28-year-old Harvard product, his first three preseason games with the Nets will serve notice that he’s still good and may actually be getting better.

    Per 36 minutes, he’s actually posting better numbers than he did between Feb. 4, 2012, when the days of “Linsanity” began with a 25-point performance in a win over the New Jersey Nets, through March 21 of that year, after which his numbers suffered along with his left knee.

    Granted, Lin has only been playing 22.7 minutes a game this preseason, and it hasn’t all been against starting-quality players. But this Lin is a more efficient player. Not only is he averaging 1.89 points per field-goal attempt—which would have ranked second in the NBA last season—but he’s reduced the number of his possessions that end in a turnover from 15.6% in 2011-12 to 11.5% in the preseason. And for a larger sample size, Lin turned the ball over on just 12.1% of possessions while serving as Charlotte’s sixth man last season.

    Some of Lin’s growth can certainly be attributed to his experience. Linsanity occurred in the nascent stages of a 23-year-old’s NBA career. But at the time, the Knicks were without an injured Carmelo Anthony, whose 11-game absence created the void that Lin filled.

    With the help of then-Knicks assistant Kenny Atkinson, who is now in his first season as head coach of the Nets, Lin turned himself into a lethal pick-and-roll guard in 2012. These days, Lin has a diversified game and he has looked comfortable in the Nets’ motion offense, both as a ballhandler and a spot-up shooter, making 7 of 14 three-point attempts.

    He may not be an international phenomenon anymore, but Lin looks like a valuable new piece for a Nets team coming off a 21-61 season.

    https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-AI438_NETS10_G_20161014191150.jpg

  • 1mtoldman

    this was my understanding also but i was corrected by other posters here that what he said was “2 players each game” not “rest players 2 preseason games”.

    ie. two different players each game not each player resting 2 games.

    if their corrections are correct (and they had direct quotes) then lin would not be rested again.

  • kauaiblue

    Ok, thanks!

  • takeme2cruz

    Atkinson is right. 82 games, 48 min per game, if pnr is all we do we’re dead last. Unpredictable 5 man moving offense is the way and it just needs to be done sufficiently.

  • 1mtoldman

    strange nite in the nba; just some random notes;

    bulls starters minus only butler get destoryed by the 3rd team cavs; eventually against the 4th team cavs (ie guys who will never be in the league) the bulls only then (still playing basically their rotation players) come back.

    magic reserves threaten to put up 50 points in one quarter on the pacers reserves; only failing when both teams put their starters back in and pacers come back, suggesting pacers lack depth.

    nuggets and warriors both teams playing basically starters; nuggets take warriors into o.t.

    and raptors bench trail at halftime to a unknown team from somewhere (only extensive digging would reveal it being a club team from argentina). suggesting equal lack of depth for raptors.

  • takeme2cruz

    Atkinson prepared lin for linsanity. Atkinson pushed MDA to play Lin. Atkinson all out to convince MarKS to get lin. If Atkinson does not know Lin, does not trust Lin, who does?

    I have full confidence in coach Atkinson even he’s just a rookie.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s why w or l in preseason does not tell all what we want to know.

  • Briiick

    Well said. Atkinson simply is testing strategies and players he may have to use in regular games, beginning with the most risky ones.

  • Click Click

    $57M/4Y, $14.25M/year. Greed wins out in the end.

    https://twitter.com/espnsteinline/status/787085968218087424

  • Click Click

    Sounds like preseason…

  • KL

    I got to see Isaiah Thomas eating dust in Jeremy Lin’s wake this preseason (quite literally). Honestly that is good enough for me already. Haha.

    Let Atkinson build for the future and keep Lin / Lopez healthy.

  • takeme2cruz

    No, that’s not the end. The end is yet to come.

  • Click Click

    Nets defense and motion offense kept the game close and very winnable last night against a superior (but overrated) Boston team… and that’s with an ice cold Lin, Harris, and majority of the team at the 3-point line.

    Kenny’s primary goal in preseason is to establish the defense and last night, the Nets played much better D than the 2 games prior. His secondary goal is to teach the complicated and extremely difficult to master motion offense to guys who haven’t played this type of offense their entire basketball career.

    PnR is easy for guys like Brook and Lin who have already mastered it, but has yet to gel together. Heck, even Vasquez and Bennett looked great running PnR last night when none of their shots were going in. PnR is the least of the Nets and Kenny’s concerns.

  • Click Click

    Mmm

  • cdblue10

    Why is it that Atkinson won’t play his best weapon???the PnR…

  • Yura

    “Jeremy Lin believed he was an NBA player” – He was born to be an NBA player!!! No one wanted to believe he was an NBA player because he’s Asian. He didn’t come from NOWHERE – no one wanted to give him a chance!

  • Briiick

    Testing those which may not work when games don’t count.

  • cdblue10

    He’s a smart man I hope he will finally unleash what Nets are made of…not the boring motion offense.

  • Briiick

    He is not alone, he has another smart man Lin on his side.

  • KL

    I think RHJ and Booker are going to start. Atkinson probably thinks Vasquez needs Scola and Kilpatrixk more than Lin needs them.

    At the same time I am hoping for 2 things:-
    1. That Lin and Lopez will stagger a bit so that Lin can play with Scola / Hamilton / Harris.
    2. That RHJ is a token starter who will get the least minutes of all the starters. Kinda like PJ Hairston.

  • Maknusia

    agreed…its all in good hand….as the season progresses we should she better coordination and cohesive plays

  • cdblue10

    I still need to see Lin and Lopez working together

  • Maknusia

    word

  • spiderman

    funny.

    coyote and roadrunner

  • Rick James

    cant believe JR gets a 15M/yr contract. Basically whatever lebron says goes in cleveland. Tristan Thompson wants a $100M contract. Cavs say no. Lebron starts whining to media, 1 month later TT gets his $100M contract. JR smith wants a $60M contract. Cavs say no. Lebron starts whining to media. 1 month later JR gets his $60M contract.

    Talk about diva treatment. The owner will pay up whatever to make LBJ happy also, just because LBJ brings in more money than any of the petty chump change TT/JR are making.

  • Whitman Lam

    No team plays 100% for Preseason unless it’s players on the verge of being cut. The veterans and guaranteed contacts don’t seem to care about winning.

  • Whitman Lam

    Omer Asík was the best PnR defending big man Lin ever played with.

  • norah mackenzie

    didn’t IT tweet abt lin?

  • norah mackenzie

    and people were talking abt lin’s salary as being too “high” –

  • norah mackenzie

    i think in the last game against the celtics they moved like a team

  • CaliUSMC

    what tweet?

  • norah mackenzie

    he tweeted because he wasn’t included in the all star game and he also said that ” no disrespect but guys like jeremy lin get a lot of votes” – maybe it isn’t a diss but why bring lin’s name into the tweet if thomas by himself isn’t chosen? whining

  • KL

    IT was definitely disrespecting Lin. Funny thing is that Lin has always dominated him.

  • Steppen03

    Something came to my mind. Of All the good coaches in the league, there’s ONLY TWO coaches that trusted JLin7. Of the 30 coaches – there’s only 2. Go Jeremy Lin! Have a MVP season!!!

  • norah mackenzie

    and nobody even helped him out when he was getting fouled so often – thanks clifford or scott and mchale

  • norah mackenzie

    well thomas is shorter and more annoying – even when lin was with the hornets it was funny to watch IT vs lin

  • norah mackenzie

    that should be a highlight when IT falls

  • norah mackenzie

    TT is now dating khloe k so it will be interesting to see how good he will be with her around – remember lamar odom? or kris humpries – all sucked dry by the kardashians

  • CJSHYY
  • takeme2cruz

    Sound like Al Sharpton.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    “guys like Jeremy Lin.. who destroys me every time we meet and makes my ankle hurt”

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    same here. in Atkinson we believe! i actually feel that Atkinson was more instrumental in the creation of Linsanity than MDA

  • Brent Yen

    Last yr

  • Rick Johnson

    At 0:21 IT was too short to see over Lin and Lin defending him caused him to TO to Booker when attempting the pass.

    https://youtu.be/sgL1YzP6sRk?list=PLe24jxEcf2fk3Wn29hajYUk6RFNCGkJIL

  • Rick Johnson

    Another angle from this video at 0:50 IT’s right foot kicks JLin’s left foot causing IT to fall to the ground. But even without that IT was already beat by JLin. Slow it down to 25% speed.

    https://youtu.be/LMIHt1kmoZM?list=PLe24jxEcf2fk3Wn29hajYUk6RFNCGkJIL

  • Click Click

    Yes, he hit Lin’s left foot, but he was already in the falling motion because of how badly Lin juked him to the left, then went right.

  • Click Click

    It wasn’t because IT was too short to see over Lin. It was because Lin slightly tipped the ball. If you watch closely, the ball changes direction and drops short of where IT wanted to pass it to. Also, he was rushing the pass because Lin forced him to.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes IT was already beat by that time and heading to the floor before he even hit Lopez, just made it look better ending up on the floor.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes, I think you’re right, Lin’s hands probably just slightly grazes it causing it to fly more forward and in front of where Horford was standing because otherwise that would have been a poor pass. These close alternative angle view show you a lot more of the little things Lin does you don’t notice at real time in the game.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Thoughts on the preseason so far –

    1) Impressed with what we have seen from the coach so far. Extra focus on defense, especially important since this is a young team (age and time together). Also like his strategy of establishing his motion offense. Honestly, Brook-Lin PnR would be very important for this team to get easier points through the regular season; but, being able to spread the effect of defenses attention on Brook and Lin to other team mates, may be as important given the play-making deficiency we’re seeing from other players. Added confidence for these guys, before start of season, is an added benefit. Still have question marks on his in-game coaching, which will only get answered through the season.

    2) Despite their young age, players on this team are missing that extra level of quickness and hustle, through most of the games. Very surprising (and disappointing) – Hope this is only because everyone on court is having to think too much, trying to get acclimatized to the new systems on both sides. If this continues through the entire season, this team won’t win a lot of games – players are gonna get traded, and some careers ended.

    2b) Why are so many players on this team, unable to convert at the rim?! Hope this is just a fluke!

    3) Brook is slower than anticipated. Maybe if he gets a better hang of the system and has more plays run for him, he will be
    quicker. He is too important for this team, and you can be certain that the system will be changed if he remains uncomfortable through the first month or two.

    4) I predicted Lin would score >20 points a season. You guys can check out my arguments in a featured post on an earlier thread. Preseason is not a good determinant of what goes on in the actual season, but Lin looks comfortable and his shot looks good so far. His averages per 36 mins are well over 20 points and with added pick n’roll plays, >20 points looks more and more probable in the regular season.

    5) This season is a breath of fresh air for Lin and the rest of us. Regardless of how well the team does, hope he gets the recognition he deserves as a starter. That would make us a happy lot, I’m sure 🙂

  • Michael

    Diss, Lin wasn’t even in the all star game. The only reasoning is that Lin doesn’t qualify for the all star game, yet he gets a lot of votes. If in his mind Lin was an all star-calibre player he probably wouldn’t mention the votes.

    It’s really spineless of him, he could have named someone in the all-star game that he feels he should replace, but he goes after the easy target.

  • Lin Dunn

    ?? about why young guys are not quick or do not hustle or why scoring so poor? Lack of talents. The talented young players like Ingram, Simmons, Kris Dunn etc are drafted to other teams. I hope Lin average >20 a game, I will be happy for 17/7

  • Phoenix Rising

    Agree with you, your point is undisputed. But I was referring to a possible lack of effort or court awareness, which hopefully is not the case for the sake of this team and Lin (and us :P).

  • Lin Dunn

    I hope their court awareness improve too. Maybe this is preseason and young guys are trying to prove that they belong to NBA. But then RhJ has been playing selfish, and he already made the cut.

  • FreetheMind

    No one on Celtics can guard Lin one on one.

  • 1mtoldman

    i would think booker more likely to be a token starter than rhj.

    rhj still has a untouchable vibe among vast majority of net fans as an “elite defender”; now of course fans dont dictate playing time, but thru summer league and preseason coaching staff seem to have encouraged him to have every opportunity to live up to that (imo) false narrative.

    there is some question tho among a few long time net fans if since rhj was a holdover dc from the previous regime that should he continue (again imo) to fail that opportunity that he could be at some point somewhat disposable.

    i think the lack of a healthy competent backup pg at this time will assure the staggering you suggest.

    perhaps at some point rhj will play himself down to where the “false narrative” (imo) about him will no longer be tenable and he could become that token starter.

    in any evident i would see booker/rhj both starting and playing starter minutes as not desireable.

  • 1mtoldman

    short and annoying. likes to take long walks on the beach. big fan of floyd mayweather. talks a lot.

  • freemind

    Atkinson is practicing the Art of War “don’t let the enemy figure out how to prepare” lol

  • 1mtoldman

    most important line here “basically whatever lebron says goes in cleveland”.

  • 1mtoldman

    harden had a run didn’t he? wasn’t that when rockets as a team stopped having a winning %?

  • 1mtoldman

    everything will be allrite in the end and if its not all rite its not the end.

  • KHuang

    It’s simply a lack of conditioning that comes only from playing in actual games.

    Don’t worry, all that will turn around very soon.

  • KHuang

    That’s pretty much true leaguewide.

  • KHuang

    Because Atkinson is so focused on defense, he’s not coaching the offensive sets needed to get the other three players to move aside for a Lopez Lin pick and roll.

  • KHuang

    RHJ and Booker will absolutely start and lead the Nets in minutes (30+ apiece).

    1. Lin will be kept with the starters, mostly because Atkinson needs him to pad RHJ and Booker’s stats

    2. RHJ will likely lead the starters in minutes, tying with Booker for team lead over Lin and Lopez.

  • KHuang

    Vasquez will play a lot, his slow moving methodical unaggressive lazy style is EXACTLY what Atkinson is looking for.

    Atkinson will cut into Lin’s minutes to provide for Vasquez, plus Vasquez will be PG with Lin at SG so that Lin can pad Vasquez’s stats.

  • Maknusia

    Looks like you have discounted CKA…lets see how the season progresses

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Phoenix Rising

    Hope so.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Acbc

    IMO, it’s not selfishness, it’s instinct. Knowing what the new coach wants is for him to be aggressive, every fibre in his being tells him to take it to the rim. That’s his idea of being aggressive. It’s totally counter intuitive for young players now to think aggressive play is to pass or pop and shoot. Passing away the ball especially is onious to them. It’s as if they lack the manhood to take charge. Kids have been taught for so long to be selfish and to ISO. This is the result.

    New instincts that reps and 100s even 1000s of reminders and corrections. This is why game time is so valuable. Knowing what to do means nothing when instinct makes you do the exact opposite.

  • spiderman

    Good point-
    Teams have always known about Lin’s PNR but have never been able to stop it. PNR inherently has an element of surprise.

  • spiderman

    Booker actually looks small on the court. Where’s the defensive anchor that coach alluded to?

  • Bob NYC

    Here are my videos from the Nets-Celtics pre-season game on Thursday.

  • grover chang

    If RHJ focuses on running/cutting and not iso drive I will be happy. His stats would be better and he would be helpful if he just stuck with that.

  • grover chang

    What? Why would KA want a slow pg? Then why recruit Lin?

  • Brent Yen

    Wooohooo

  • Maknusia

    Nice HD!!..good closeups…btw why the small short clips?

  • Bob NYC

    Actually my first time doing this. At first I tried taking still pics of JLin but the action was too fast so I decided to do videos instead – I could always pause and screen shot to get good still pics. However after I finished taping and viewing them all I said What The Heck and just posted the raw footage. Haha. Hope everyone enjoys them!

  • Rick James

    IT is a joke. I respect for him for getting so far in the nba while only being 5’9, but his attacks on lin are unforgivable to me as a lin fan :D. I lost count of the number of times that JLin smacked IT in basketball. Its not IT’s fault though, JLin is legitimately a great point guard, and most teams have trouble against Lin. IT thinks that Lin should play like a bum, a backup point guard. What he doesn’t understand is that Lin has been unfairly pidgeon holed into those types of roles due to stereotype/racism by coaches and players and that doesn’t represent Lin’s true basketball skills.

  • Maknusia

    cool…..yep this is way better than stills….keep it up

    I have not watched such short clips, but it do give detailed description of the play/run… thumbsup!

  • KHuang

    Because Vasquez plays a “safe” slow role player game that Atkinson can relate to.

    Lin is a SUPERSTAR, he makes superstar plays and puts up superstar production. ALL superstars make their coaches uncomfortable.

  • KHuang

    RHJ lacks the athleticism and court sense to improve his court awareness.

    As he soon will lead the Nets in minutes, the Nets have a very difficult task of playing around his minus production due to his utter lack of defense and offense.

    I’d have mercilessly cut him if I were coaching him.

  • KHuang

    Jeremy Lin is THE nightmare matchup for Isaiah Thomas.

    Lin is too big, too fast, and too skilled for Thomas. There is nothing absolutely Thomas can do against Lin.

    Also lost in the shuffle: Wildly overrated All Defense player Avery Bradley gets badly lit up by Lin too. Bradley is just as ineffective at guarding Lin as Thomas is.

    This is why Brad Stevens says Jeremy Lin “kills” the Celtics.

  • KHuang

    Won’t happen – the team is trying to forcefeed the selfish and clueless and unathletic RHJ into becoming the next Lebron.

  • KHuang

    It’s a MYTH.

    Multiple teams discovered the hard way that Booker is a 20 mpg player at best due to his lack of size, strength, speed, and hops.

    Whenever Booker olays, he is a serious defensive liability who cannot prevent opposing players from scoring double figures. He is the Patrick Beverley of starting power forwards.

  • KHuang

    No, it is a FAIR contract for a starting SG who scores double figures and plays relentless defense for a championship team!

    JR Smith is PROPERLY paid.

  • KHuang

    Those talented young high picks, they’re not all that great either.

    They’d hurt the Nets more than help them.

    They lack conditioning too.

  • Bob NYC

    Some of the clips a few minutes long.

  • Click Click

    Brooklyn Nets Preview

  • KHuang

    Here are the traditional halfcourt sets I’d like to see run for Brook Lopez:

    1) Double stack high: Booker and Lopez come out high to set a double screen, the opposition blitzes over the screen to get at Lin, Lopez cuts toward the rim and Booker flares to the 3 pt line. Foye and RHJ are active on the wings.

    2) 3/2 spread: 3 men high, 2 down low.

    3) UCLA: Lopez comes to the high side post, Lin dribbles behind Lopez. RHJ on the other side can cut along the baseline, Foye is on the perimeter, Booker is waiting down low on the other side of the rim.

    There are other traditional sets the Nets can use to involve Lopez more.

  • KHuang

    Why did you delete my post?

    It was not harmful.

  • Brent Yen

    How about just sit Lopez on the bench for 48 mins….jk ….jk…..I like the set you mentioned.

  • KHuang

    might as well, the way things are going

  • Brent Yen

    I am not too worried about how Lopez is offensively….I just hope he can fight for more rebounds….

  • Briiick

    It’s more like what kind of cards I have besides those I have to play in regular games.

  • KHuang

    Lopez won’t be included offensively until Atkinson stops forcefeeding Booker and RHJ and Scola.

    Lopez also cannot grab offensive rebounds if Atkinson keeps stationing him at the 3 pt line.

  • Brent Yen

    well Then….at least get some more rebounds……LOL

  • Vincent

    khuang atkinson will set screens for lin as the season goes on no need to worry

  • KHuang

    But if Lopez continues to be frozen out by Atkinson, Lopez’s man will keep scoring uncontrollably and there will be hardly any defensive rebounds to grab.

    It’s not that Lin is trying to freeze out Lopez or that Lopez is not shooting, it’s more than Atkinson’s motion offense is not putting Lopez in the best places to score.

  • KHuang

    I don’t think so.

    Watch.

  • Brent Yen

    It’s ok…..let’s watch the 1st 10 regular season games, the we can jump to conclusions…;-P

  • Vincent

    I think from recent interviews he saving their pick and roll for the regular season. I believe he picked lin for a reason. Atkinson has been known to be a pick and roll guru as some of the hawks players will say. Atkinson used the pitch of using the pick and roll to get lin to come over to the team. I dont think he would lie to him.. It wouldnt make sense for him not to use his biggest offensive weapon. LIn and lopez pick and roll is what this team will need to win games and it would be absolutely foolish to ignore that. But from rcent interviews it seems like he will go to the pick and roll once everyone is comfortable with the motion offense

  • Vincent

    i agree though it is upsetting that we haven’t seen any screens set.. it looks like houston all over again or even worse its like the lakers where byron told lin he didnt want him to use the pick and roll as it stunts ball movement. I still have faith in atkinson and won’t make any decisions on him until i see the season opener

  • Click Click

    You’re ridiculous. Booker is the best defensive player on the Nets and so far in preseason, he’s proved it. I don’t understand your crazy hatred for Booker, RHJ, and Vasquez. Almost everything you’ve said about them is so off-base, untrue, disgustingly hateful, and flat-out wrong.

  • Click Click

    Good thing you’re not a coach nor anybody who makes decisions on an NBA team.

    RHJ is one of the most athletic guys on the Nets, if not THE MOST athletic guy. You’re once again, completely wrong in your assessment of him and are just grasping at straws to bash him.

    RHJ’s shot is broken, but he’s trying to fix it. I have said this since Summer League. He is ballhogging, which is not a good sign, but maybe it’s because Kenny gives him the green light to be aggressive and attack the rim / take shots whenever he feels like it. This will most likely change during the regular season. RHJ won’t be featured as much on offense, but will still be aggressive, cutting to the rim when he gets the opportunity to.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Nice camera work! Clip 7, wow!

  • Click Click

    You’re once again making outlandish statements just because Kenny isn’t doing what YOU want him to do… IN PRESEASON. You’re absolutely nuts if you think Brook isn’t going to be included in the offense during the regular season. I’ve lost almost all respect I’ve had for you, KHuang. Very disappointed in your comments since preseason started.

  • norah mackenzie

    can we make rhj sit for that time as well – ?

  • norah mackenzie

    thanks for sharing much appreciated.

  • Click Click

    There’s a reason those guys are top lotto picks. They’re NBA-ready and are top-tier talents, given to teams that get rewarded in the stupid NBA system that rewards losers with the best young players.

  • Click Click
  • takeme2cruz

    That’s chemistry building right there.

  • grover chang

    I like your first set, which I think you are alluding to the horns offense. Lin and the Rockets offense thrived when McHale let Lin run this.

    With Horn’s Lin has screens set on both sides for him. But replace Booker with Hamilton. So Lin had the option to kick out to a 4 who could actually make a 3 pointer after the initial PNR with brook- Lin.

    I also like Horn offense because you could have two shooters parked at corner threes, and Lin is excellent now on deciding who is open to shoot after the initial PNR.

    IN SHORT: GIVE LIN THE BALL !!!! AND LET HIM WORK. WE DON’T NEED 5 PG. The other guys can’t make plays as well as Lin.

  • Click Click

    No more weekends off.

  • grover chang

    Lin, Harris, bog, Hamilton, Lopez with Horn set would be devastating.

  • Bob NYC

    Clips 5 and later are longer.

  • takeme2cruz

    Maybe.

  • Phoenix Rising

    1st and 3rd sets are winners. Lin has control, Brook can be 1/2 option to finish.
    I think set 2, is what nets were playing for large parts last season.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Yes, I like the idea of Hamilton! Shown himself to be a good 3 point shooter, and can run back quickly if opposing team rebounds.

  • takeme2cruz

    2, 3 and 4 are defense liability, can afford to have them 3 on floor together.

  • grover chang

    I don’t see a big difference on defense. Who this preseason looks like a big time stopper.. other then Lin.

  • takeme2cruz

    I like Booker. Harris n Bog shouldn’t be on together.

  • grover chang

    They really do have a nice practice facility. I would love just to play some games there one afternoon with the New York skyline in the back. Nice.

  • Click Click

    Booker is by far the best defensive player on the Nets. If you can’t recognize that or if you have unwarranted hatred for Booker like KHuang, then you haven’t been watching these games close enough.

    RHJ is also a very good defensive player, but he hasn’t performed up to his ability yet in preseason. He will soon enough.

  • Click Click
  • KHuang

    I was advocating Hamilton at starting 4 before the preseason began.

  • KHuang

    But Foye, RHJ, and Booker are getting BURNT UP WAY WORSE than Harris, Bogdanovic, and Hamilton.

  • Brent Yen

    He has his value, just has to be used correctly I guess…

  • KHuang

    Unwarranted hatred MY BUTT, Click Click.

    You wanna protect a MINUS PLAYER in Booker who has given away high double figures in points every single game, you go ahead and PRETEND that Booker is some sort of superstar.

    Booker is the power forward version of Patrick Beverley: a FAKE defensive player who CANNOT SCORE.

  • KHuang

    Nobody knows what that “value” is because there ISN’T ANY.

  • Brent Yen

    I hope that is not the case, because he is guaranteed to have minutes it seems.

  • Brent Yen

    Not really, many top picks did not pan out for other reasons.

  • sport

    😒 at least they still know who the 2 franchise players are, the way Brook has been benched and Lin’s utilized you’d think otherwise.

  • sport

    Glad someone else likes seeing Hamilton start.

  • KHuang

    I’m disappointed on you too, Click Click.

    Your unquestioning worshiping of Booker and RHJ and Vasquez is totally OFF, you should be ashamed of yourself for PRETENDING that they’re playing winning team basketball.

  • Click Click

    I don’t worship any player, not even Lin. I’m a truthful person and call it like it is. You on the other hand, have deep hatred for any player or coach you don’t deem worthy of your worship. You also make crazy, outlandish, ridiculous statements that has absolutely no foundation in reality. YOU should be ashamed of yourself. If I didn’t know you’re a Lin fan, I’d say you’re one of the biggest and most ridiculous trolls I’ve ever seen.

  • sport

    History tells me otherwise, preseason is usually how regular season will look like. Just hope both Lin and Lopez will speak with the coach because the offense isn’t tailoring to their best abilities. Sadly we won’t have such issues if MDA was coach. Don’t know why Nets didn’t hire him instead. Again what is it with Lin’s coach hating on PnR!!!

  • Click Click

    Once again, it’s preseason. Not sure why you and so many others are overreacting to games that Kenny doesn’t care about winning or losing. I’ve had to explain why way too many times, so I won’t even bother this time.

  • Click Click

    Preseason is NOT how regular season games will look like. Not sure where you’re coming up with this notion.

  • grover chang

    I’m not down on Booker defense. I’m just not as down on the other guys defense. Outside of Lin they all defend kindve so so to me.

  • KHuang

    It is the case – and he WILL get more minutes – and it WILL continue to HURT THE NETS BADLY.

  • sport

    I hope you’re right 3 more preseason games and it will be regular season. By then I hope we can finally see Lin and Lopez featured as main players!

  • Brent Yen

    really?….they are very different

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED.

    You got banned from
    Netsdaily for repeatedly firing personal attacks.

    You’re well on your way toward getting banned here too, TROLL.

  • Click Click

    Where did I ever say Booker is a superstar? I didn’t. That’s what people always say to me whenever I corner them with facts and evidence on Lin and they have nothing to come back at me with.

    You realize every single rotation player on the Nets except Lin and Foye are MINUS PLAYERS so far in preseason, right? That’s what happens when you lose 3 games in a row. Go ahead and check:

    http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612751/?t=brooklyn

    FYI Booker was +11 in the game the Nets won and he’s been +1.5 on home court. There goes another one of your lies that he’s been double digit minus player in every game.

    http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202344/stats/?p=trevor-booker

    LOL @ your fake defensive player comment. You’re supposedly a know-it-all basketball sage with decades of basketball-watching experience, yet you’re unwilling to recognize nor admit that Booker is by far the best defensive player on the Nets so far. You’ve lost all credibility and sanity, my friend.

  • cdblue10

    Grover that’s exactly my thought,Atkinson just need to let Lin orchestrate the offense with him and Lopez as the anchor and let the other pieces move to their sweet spot.

  • KHuang

    Lin can’t just “move” those players to sweet spots.

    Atkinson has to step in and make it happen.

    That’s why NBA teams pay millions of dollars to coaches to do.

  • Click Click

    LOL I got banned on NetsDaily because the owner couldn’t stand me proving him and his liberal ideology and propaganda wrong. Stop lying.

    Oh, and I won’t be banned from here. I’m not the one who’s been bashing Nets players constantly and making up lies and ridiculous claims all day, everyday like you. You contribute nothing here except your paranoia, extremely harsh unfair criticisms, and rantings about basketball players from 2 decades ago that nobody knows nor cares about, just to flaunt your supposed wealth of basketball-watching experience.

    P.S. Jimmer is better than Curry. ROFL

  • cdblue10

    I realized that but regular season is around the corner and the best time to assimilate Lin and Lopez strength is to incorporate that offense now.

  • Arsenium12 .

    A bit of background on Jeremy’s Grandma; she’s 91 and used to be a pediatrician …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/787312992303984640

  • sport

    This article make things look brighter. Hope that’s the case.

  • KHuang

    Every NBA team is different.

    What worked for the Hawks won’t work for the Nets because the personnel and situation are different.

    In truth, I’m not at all worried about pick and rolls from Lin’s perspective. He’s Linsanity, he’s gonna get monster stats no matter what.

    I just feel that the Lin Lopez pick and roll should be the PRIME focus for the Nets because it opens up the court for the 3 other starters that cannot score.

    I view a 2 man pick and roll as a 5 man play.

  • sport

    From the above article looks like Atkinson wants preseason to be crash course in motion offense. He doesn’t want to just do PnR for every play. Except why not play Lopez longer minutes? He needs to learn it too no?

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED AGAIN.

    I didn’t start the flaming today.

    YOU DID.

    I’ve been very respectful of your differences of opinion. But if you are not respectful of me, you give me no choice but to RETALIATE.

    We’ll fight much more, TROLL.

  • grover chang

    I actually have a nagging thought that outside of MDA, every relationship Lin has with a coach eventually goes sour. Why? Because Lin shows he is a better coach. He teaches the other guys the best way to win while playing on the court.

    The reason why MDA and Lin with together is because that is what MDA wants. He wants his pg to coach the team.

  • Arsenium12 .

    An Evening With Jeremy Lin

    Join Brooklyn Nets’ Point Guard Jeremy Lin at The TAG Heuer Boutique Launch

    Bloomingdales |
    E 59th St & Lexington Ave |
    Wednesday, October 19th, 2016
    6:00PM – 7:00PM

    We all know about Linsanity, well, now here is your chance to meet him! Jeremy Lin, a man known for his style both on and off the court, heads to midtown to help TAG Heuer launch their new boutique. Meet the Brooklyn Nets’ star and the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent to play in the NBA!

    See : https://pulsd.com/new-york/celebrities/bloomingdales/an-evening-with-jeremy-lin

  • KHuang

    Are you a moderator?

    Please get Click Click under control, tell him to stop flaming me.

  • KHuang

    Accurate assessment

  • Click Click

    I’ve given you every chance to relax and calm down. I’ve asked you nicely multiple times. Nothing works. All you do is constantly attack Nets players and the coach just because they’re not doing what you want. You’re a selfish, egotistical individual who has such a closed and demented mind, unwilling to take others advice nor be reasonable in your rantings.

    FYI I didn’t flame you. I merely pointed out facts and proved you wrong. You’re the one who is lashing out, typing in all caps, and acting like a madman. Nobody takes you seriously anymore, sorry to say.

  • Click Click

    Crying to a non-mod. Pathetic.

  • cdblue10

    Absolutely,Lopez will be one of the most integral part of this offense,familiarization for both Lin and Lopez are always important and Nets will just need to find that 3rd and 4th player to at least help them on their sets but playing the motion offense while these players are still trying to find their identity is a pitfall to their campaign.MOTION OFFENSE IS ONLY FOR THE WEAK PLAYERS who can’t make plays for themselves.

  • spiderman

    Like this line up

  • sport

    Motion offense only for the role players? Is that why Lopez hasn’t been playing much in preseason? Still this losing can’t be good for the team so I hope Atkinson will finally win the next 3 games by implementing PnR more.

  • blueCypher

    What is this. Like an autograph session or something

  • Vincent

    Quit the horse hockey both of you this is just locker room talk

  • Geoffrey

    just run the 1-4 spread for Lin at the end of games so Lin can tell his teammates what Kobe told him once : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yns1YjoGzd4

  • Geoffrey
  • Arsenium12 .

    No, sorry, I’m not a moderator …

  • Brent Yen

    Let’s not talk politics here..:-P

  • Vincent

    Sorry 🙁

  • Brent Yen

    You and Click just have to dial down….if you guys disagree with each other….it is fine…..no personal attacks…please..

  • Brent Yen

    it’s ok…:P

  • Arsenium12 .

    Yes, I think so. This is a TAG Heuer promotional event at Bloomingdale’s. Jeremy will probably be standing around talking to customers.

  • blueCypher

    So is lin a part of roc nation yet or what

  • Brent Yen

    What is a roc nation?

  • freemind

    Roger Montgomery, Lin’s agent, joined Roc Nation Sports own by JayZ. KD is also with Roc Nation

    http://sportsagentblog.com/2016/10/03/roger-montgomery-joins-roc-nation-sports/

  • spiderman

    AWESOME clips!!

    Front row seats

  • freemind

    Nice! Thank you.
    All I saw during the game was Lin’s hair in a flying ponytail.. just noticed that it started with a tight manbun tho 🙂

  • Brent Yen

    Oh…..I see…right….Somehow I was imagining roches and Rox

  • Bob NYC

    Actually 3rd row, but not complaining!

  • Arsenium12 .

    Kenny Atkinson on Isaiah Whitehead and Chris McCullough spending time in D-League: “I think that’s definitely in the plans.”
    __________

    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/787356492588523520

  • aggressiveplayer

    McCullough for sure needs some time in the D-League, and I guess Whitehead does too. 2 free roster spots until they get called up again.

  • joyce ward

    I have been watching the preseason Nets games and the team looks decent. I think the reason Lin/Lopez haven’t been playing together much is that Atkinson doesn’t wanted their play to be scouted during preseason. Also I think Lin/Lopeaz are playing a lot in practice together and they probably have their timing down. Atkinson did what coaches were suppose to do, evaluate your new players. Atkinson has already eliminated two players going to the D League. Also perhaps RHJ is not a ball hog, but maybe somebody fighting for their position. I think the coaches wanted Lin/Lopez to rest and let the other compete for their positions.

  • Yura

    He looks so happy 🙆

  • Lin Dunn

    That is a reversal for Whitehead, a couple of wks ago Kenny wanted to put him in lineup sonner b/c of Vasuez surgery recovery.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I still have great faith in Atkinson as a coach. I’m just going to give it some time. If by mid January things are still looking bleak then I would start to worry.

  • GoJLin!

    You got more credit than the Christian Post, they mess up the Grandma description. The author thought the picture is Lin’s grandma on his father-side. Well, he is loved by both of them anyway!

  • freemind
  • aggressiveplayer

    That’s something I’ve noted as well. Atkinson or someone said Whitehead looked great and would be in the lineup sooner than expected, but now it looks like that statement should be retracted. Also, I remember after summer league Atkinson said he thought McCullough did great or something along those lines, when in fact he looked sloppy (like you saw in preseason).

    I’m not hating on Atkinson, but those are some things to be wary of.

  • Steppen03

    I really CAN NOT believe there’s so much noise about KA’s system or what he’s trying to do in the preseason… Can us fans all just Relax and give our fullest support to the ONLY coach that offered JLin7 a starting role/franchise player. Right now, KA is the “best” coach in the league – surpassed coach Popovich, Kerr, whoever else – because he “got” Lin. The Nets media has not been any other than awesome towards Lin. So far, in the short amount of time – It’s has surpassed all my expectations for this organization and Nets team.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Well said. Let’s see what he can actually bring out of these guys after playing 2+ months in the real season.

  • guest

    Lin has made Coaches look better and have covered for their inefficiencies. Let’s not get it backwards. Even MDA, didn’t want to give him a shot, until he was forced too. Lin has surpassed everybody’s expectation in each system and position he’s been forced to play.

  • blueCypher

    Yes. Some people need to chill. I too do not want a predictable pnr all day everyday. You have to mix it up. As long as lin feels empowered then it is all good

  • guest

    Of course Atkinson will learn that he’ll need to Lean on Lin to make the right decisions. And I like Atkinson and feel this is the best opportunity Lin has had in his NBA career. They will make it work. Or, at least Lin the GENERAL will!

  • KHuang

    I shall happily do!

    Click Click is actually NOT a troll.

    I don’t even mind him disliking or disagreeing with me. I have no quarrel with him.

    I respect his posts and have no interest in fighting him. I want to adhere to community rules here.

  • KHuang

    I shall happily OBEY you!!!

  • freemind
  • KHuang

    But we are “fans”, which is short of FANATIC!

    My bluster over Atkinson’s methods, it has ZERO IMPACT on ANYTHING!

    I am a NOBODY, I know my place!!!

    that also gives me license to freak out HARMLESSLY

  • Rick James

    LOL @ locker room talk.

  • KHuang

    Joyce Ward, what two players are headed to the D League?

    Edit:
    NEVER MIND – I just saw Arsenium12’s post

  • KHuang

    Well, the D League is an EXCELLENT league with superb coaching and superb teamwork.

    CMC and Whitehead will learn much there and hopefully bounce back to the NBA strong.

  • KHuang

    Thanks

  • KHuang

    but TRUE

  • Rick James

    lets not bring about conspiracies against MDA here. He is still beloved by many lin fans, even if he backstabbed all of us by joining the rockets

  • guest

    it’s facts, not conspiracies.

  • KHuang

    Nah, MDA didn’t backstab anyone.

    He signed a multimillion dollar contract to be a head coach, nothing wrong with collecting $$$

  • Rick James

    MDA gave him a 2nd chance, even after Lin did bad on his first chance. Of course the reason Lin had the chance in the first place is because alot of players were injured, but its true that luck is also a part of life.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Atkinson doesn’t play favorites which is what I like about him. Many people here just want to see the PnR being utilized but I understand where Kenny Atkinson is coming from. I highly disagree with those people saying to just run PnR action for half the plays just because that’s what we’d be most effective at. We do need to practice the PnR with Brook and Lin, but right now it’s not a priority. I think Kenny Atkinson is right to want to get the motion offense correctly first because that’s the foundation for everything. Running the motion offense would strengthen and take advantage of Lin’s ability to read the defenses. Then he can get to specifics such as the PnR. Everybody needs touches and the ball needs to get moving. This system allows for players to not feel useless sitting in a corner with nobody passing to them and helps chemistry. In return, it motivates them to be more active on the defensive and offensive ends.

    I think this type of offense is what Russell Westbrook mentions as “10 times better than American offenses”.

  • Rick James

    thats true. Turning down a HC job would have been dumb, but that doesn’t stop alot of lin fans being upset about it. Especially the rockets of all teams.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I have huge respect for MDA because of how must he entrusted in Lin and gave him to confidence to do what he did.

  • KHuang

    RHJ is NOT a ball hog.

    He’s just a raw inexperienced player who doesn’t yet have a definable NBA skillset.

    The only time I’ve seen a raw athlete turn into a highly skilled player was when Michael Redd was drafted in the 2nd round as a pure athletic slasher but learned under Hall of Famer Ray Allen to become one of the most skilled guards ever.

  • guest

    There is no conspiracy againstMDA. I like how he supported Lin after he gave him a chance (and to this day) when the team was riddled with Injuries. Unlike McHale and Byron not giving Lin credit, where it was due.

  • KHuang

    Rick James, I’ve always believed that “loyalty” in business lasts only as long as the term of a contract.

  • Rick James

    fair enough. Business is business.

  • Steppen03

    Yes, I always said Lin “made” MDA. Just like Steve Nash made MDA. These are talented players – they CAN thrive under any coach that will empower them. Lin will do Very Well under KA (even McHale, even BScott – but he’s not empowered there)

  • KHuang

    Totally RIGHT about Atkinson.

    He’s not perfect, and nobody here is complaining about his coaching here more than me. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want him as Lin’s coach for the rest of Lin’s career!

    I want Atkinson to be not just the best coach to take Lin, but the best coach in the NBA.

  • KHuang

    chill

    deep breath

    chill

    deep breath

  • guest

    Agree, that’s how he picked apart Cleveland with the Hornets. Now the, come from behind Spurs game, from what I saw, he took the team on his backs.

  • guest

    And throughout his career, it’s not the only time that he did that when the coaches let him because they wanted the win.

  • guest

    Thanks for clarifying my point. Well said.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Sadly, some games wasn’t even exactly the coaches letting him. It was more like they were forced to play Lin (Kemba out when Lin started against the Cavs)

  • Steppen03

    Yes, I agree for most part. But you’re really don’t know who’s coming onto this site and we really dont want to give wrong impressions. I only said what I truly believe in my heart but at same time I want to keep things positive.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I thank you for posting what you said.

  • guest

    Exactly. Lin brings so much to any organization and now he’s getting his chance to not “Prove It” as so many pundits will say, but because he Earned It because of his All Star caliber work ethic and Basketball Talent. I am very excited for this year for him and the NETS organization and fan base!

  • KHuang

    I like Lin’s piano playing more than I like Lang Lang’s!

    Lang Lang is a GREAT player, he’s just not my style.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I know things aren’t looking too bright right now but I firmly believe the Nets can win over 35 this year if they just keep working and improving.

  • lleepar

    Some of you with Twitter accounts may want to retweet Lang Lang’s tweet to @brettyormark to alert the Nets marketing guru that he’ll have another international celebrity in the house for the game.

  • guest

    Agree!

  • guest

    Playoffs at least, however they go about doing it. I feel they are good enough to at least make that with Lin as the “General” of any team, for that matter.

  • guest

    McHale still to this day, do not give credit to Lin for “Linsanity”, like Brian. McHale was quoted, in the New York Post, “He’s not afraid of the big shot, not afraid of moment,’’ said McHale, now a TNT analyst. “He plays very close to the reckless side. That’s what makes him a good player. He still plays hard. I don’t think a lot will change. But he’s a better player than when I saw him, and he’s become content being Jeremy Lin, not Jeremy Linsanity.”

    Being content with being Jeremy Lin, not “Linsanity”. Just like Bryron saying that Linsanity will never happen again. Lin does not like “Linsanity” term because it defined a Celing of his capabilities. Not because of overhype due to media or ethnicity.

    Lin knows he’s BETTER than Linsanity where Byron and McHale feel like he needs to be OK with being an average player. Which Lin is not.

  • guest

    “like Byron”

  • I am The Jason

    This was a no brainer.

  • Rick James

    great post, especially about his cieling and floor. Lin in someways is better than his linsanity days. He doesn’t play recklessly like before and his turnovers as a result are much better. His shooting form is better, he has more energy and is stronger. His decision making has also improved. One thing that has declined for Lin, in my opinion is his hunger. Back in his linsanity days he was struggling to survive in the nba..we saw a desperate man play his heart out. Now the level of raw hunger has declined from before since he has already proven that he belongs in the nba, and has secured himself a nice role. On the other hand, I also think racism and stereotypes from media and other players still drives him.

    This is Lins dream, to be able to lead an nba team to great success and to ultimately win an nba championship. Even some of the greatest players of all time didn’t win nba chips.

  • Dorothy

    Amen

  • aggressiveplayer

    I definitely agree with the hunger part. It’s impossible to replicate the same hunger because he’s simply not in the same circumstances. That is not to say Lin doesn’t have any hunger at all, it’s just that the level of hunger was immense because of dire circumstances.

  • Lin Dunn

    Good idea on the marketing side. But music wise Lang Lang IMO does not have much musicality. Celebrity is a good word to describe him, it is all about him, not exactly faithful to the score, yes he strives to be a celebrity. I will take Yundi, Yuja Wang, Sa chen, Hao Zhang over Lang Lang anyday. I will even take Wang Lee Hom’s pianism ( who really is not a concert pianist) and is a world pop star over Lang.

  • guest

    We know that he’s experienced racism, but I think it’s beyond that now. Lin and his family didn’t start playing basketball thinking they were going to go against the odd’s of playing basketball to be the “Poster Child” of asian athletes in American Society.

    His dad loved the game. His dad didn’t see race or color, but the talents of NBA players and the excitement that basketball could bring. Lin sees NO color in basketball but x’s and o’s and the love for the game.

    In New York, with the NETS, the focus will be on his talents, rather than biased coaching due to personal; whether from experience, or subconscious racial patterns.

    That’s why Im excited for this Year. Jeremy will be in a place where he can feel like he is Jeremy. Like in Palo Alto, Harvard….now Brooklyn Nets!

    He’s taken upon himself to be a leading example for not just the asian population, but as a person. People need to stop bringing in the race card.

  • guest

    And I believe Charlotte Hornets were very fair. They have a plan Kemba Walker and that’s ok too.

  • Briiick

    I bet every NBA player looks highly skillful in the training camp. It’s the real competition that separates them.

  • Vincent

    imagine westbrook in mda offense.. he would put up like 40 a game lol

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Vincent Lee

    Great clips! Mind if I ask what you shot this on?

  • KHuang

    “Jeremy Lin” is a BETTER PLAYER than “Linsanity.”

  • Bob NYC

    Iphone 7. The original files 1080p are even better than these YouTube conversions.

  • guest

    100%

  • Chipdip

    Only preseason and also the first few games of the preseason… At this point, Atkinson is still a good coach. Go Lin Go!

  • spiderman

    Mid-january is a lot of patience lol.
    I believe in Atkinson too — a development coach at heart who genuinely seems to care for the holistic well-being of his players. I suspect he is allowing the not-so-refined players to learn and grow. He’s giving them a chance to understand & work on their weaknesses. This helps the team develop depth which will be beneficial in the longer run.

  • blueCypher

    You guys following other teams or players this season ? Excluding golden state since theyre a given

    Im lookin out for minnesota and that devin booker kid in phoenix

  • heart

    Wow, Good job. So clear and close to the action!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It seems to me that more has begun to jump on Jeremy Lin bandwagon to cover up the kind of injustice that they have delivered against him. Let’s not to be confused and make clear what they really are. You know, McHale would always kiss the rear of James Harden to keep his job. Of course, he lost his coaching job anyway; all for nothing. It’s MDA who is coaching McHale’s super star now.

  • CJSHYY
  • travis

    i think dangelo russell is in for a big year… byron scott held him back big time

  • 1mtoldman

    booker is leading the preseason in scoring but not really very efficient. lin is actually the most efficient scoring backcourt player in preseason by my simple quotient method. booker comes in 7th. (but i like booker, mentioned him last year).

    gallinari in denver is #1 overall; with griffin, cousins and durant only also ahead of lin for all players.

    i enjoy following statistics on all players/teams even in the some say “meaningless” preseason.

    as for minnesota zach lavine is another high scoring low efficiency scorer and really as long as the hold on the offensive zero of rubio i dont see how they can do much.

    (as to post below russell is another high scoring low efficiency scorer; interestingly last year the 3 kobe disciples in la. all were along with rose and kobe among the worst “points per shot” performers in the league–that would be russell, randle and clarkson).

  • FrankW

    JLin’s preseason 3 games:
    0.577 fg%, 0.500 3p%, 0.750 ft%
    Per 36 minutes:
    4.2 reb, 6.9 ast. 2.1 stl, 3.2 to, 25.9 pts

  • Vincent Lee

    The stabilization and focus tracking is truly impressive…

  • BobbyH

    Correction: 57M * (1-40% – 20%), Fed tax and agent fee and misc expense. 😉

  • Arsenium12 .

    Tonight at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, Beyoncé, Alicia Keys, Nicki Minaj, Ms. Lauryn Hill, Common, T.I. and many more take the stage as part of the all-star Tidal X: 1015 event, a charity concert that will raise money for the Robin Hood Foundation.
    __________
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/787501917442232322

  • grover chang

    bucks. Long and Fast. The Greek Freak may change the game. a 6’10” pg is ridiculous. Bucks with Jason Kidd coaching will be a tough team to beat. Very athletic.

  • grover chang

    I recall Mchale said Lin’ s ceiling was Linsanity and that it was not fair to expect him to reach that ceiling again. He said that the first preseason Lin was there. Lin did not have a chance, Harden or not, of being his best. McHale already self-prophesized that Lin would not be as good in Houston. At the time I was like WTF?!

  • grover chang

    On NBA radio preseason show the Hornet reporter even said that losing Lin was the biggest lost of the three: Lee, Jefferson, and Lin. The biggest surprise was that Lin could guard 2s. They did not expect Sessions to be able to guard the SG. The reporter went on to say they could not match Nets offer in money and the ability to start. So I get it that Walker is their starting pg. That is what it is.

    I’m still very thankful to Clifford and the Hornets for the rehab they provided for Lins career. Now we are here with Lin as a starting pg.

  • blueCypher

    Very good . But does this per 36 min thing have merit ? I find it a bit silly. We wil see the actual stats soon enough

  • swijayas

    It is still good to date.

    Ave 22.7 minutes:
    2.7 reb, 4.3 ast, 1.3 stl, 2.0 to, 1.3 pf, 16.3 pts

  • kittyhead

    Still wearing that cap…I think he follows RM joining the ROC NATION.Interesting.

  • Michael

    I like to think of it as during Linsanity he was playing on pure instinct, now it’s as much a mind game as it is physical to him.

  • Michael

    You are losing your touch.

  • FrankW

    How about this actually stats?
    “Lin has started 33 games in his career when Melo, Harden, Kemba or Batum were hurt. Most importantly, his teams went 23-10 in those 33 games, without their stars, a better record than when the stars were in the lineup — and that was true for each team. Second, only 8 of those 33 games were during Linsanity with the Knicks. The Linsanity games don’t look much different from the other 25 games, statistically. Finally, the stats themselves: 20.4 ppg, 6.4 apg, 3.7 rpg, 48% shooting, 44% 3-point shooting. Only 33 games, but wow” – from Powers 79, reddit.com

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    trade Lopez for ED + incentives thoughts?

  • blueCypher

    Ya im thinking so too.

  • TVN

    Portland would pay for Ed Davis’ plane ticket and drive him to the Airport.

    Is this really a serious proposal?

  • TVN

    Preseason is preseason. While not “meaningless” per se, taking too much from it is foolish. When the games actually start to count, It a different ball game.

  • aggressiveplayer

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/15/fired-up-greivis-vasquez-im-more-than-a-nets-leader/

    This article gives me more faith in Vasquez. He’s seriously motivated and I think the recent bad performances should spark a light for him. I think he’ll play with fire in the season.

  • guest

    It’s still funny to see the comments on Netsdaily. Net fans still don’t know what they have in Jeremy Lin. Their attitude with Lin will change and will start demanding the Nets organization to offer Lin a contract extensions. Most of them still think he is a place holder for a so called superstar in the future. Slightly better than previous point guards they’ve had.

  • spiderman

    Like the superstar they had in Deron Williams? Some people just cannot be helped

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yes, seriously. i said ED + incentives. ED is a better pnr big than Lopez. right now, the Nets have a dilemma with Lopez unable to play pnr effectively with Lin. i know it’s still preseason, but i don’t think Lopez will ever be as good as ED in playing pnr with Lin

  • gandychan

    The blazers have no cap space. Lopez’a contract is like 17 mil a year more than Ed’s. this is an impossible trade.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    “ED + incentives”. they can always clear cap space if think very highly of Lopez, they can throw in a player to make it work

  • norah mackenzie

    can someone please tell jeremy to take off that cap!!!!

  • norah mackenzie

    he sd give a percent to lebron though

  • norah mackenzie

    memphis/rockets/hawks – chandler/dantoni/howard – just want to see whether their big salaries are justified – though glad that howard is doing ok so far

  • norah mackenzie

    is ed davis available?

  • norah mackenzie

    i am reminded that no matter how good lin is there will always be doubters and haters so not surprising

  • norah mackenzie

    no – maybe a good trade but it will be unfair for those die hard nets who feel that lopez is their rock since he has been there for years – heart vs mind sort of trade –

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no player under contract is available until an organization make them available for trade or another organization requests them in a trade

  • norah mackenzie

    also in charlotte the big upsets against the cavs and the spurs was with lin as pg – first time it had happened

  • norah mackenzie

    mchale did that for harden and in the end both harden and howard booted out mchale and then harden got howard traded or chucked out. he wanted to be the superstar – like carmelo in knicks – maybe he will be more succcessful in getting the rockets into the nba finals who can say ? but he sd be held accountable for failing if they don’t get into the finals

  • guest

    I think Brook Lopez is the best center that Lin has played with. ED Davis was a great PnR partner, but Lopez is definitely the better all around player. His defense could be questionable, but I think with Kenny Atkinson’s defensive scheme and players, one in particular, Lin, will help him in the paint like he has with all centers that he’s played with improving Lopez’s defense. I’d like to see Atkinson give us a little taste of the PnR, but understand the process.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lopez is certainly a much better low post player than ED. that much i’d agree with. but ED is a much better pnr player both on offense and defense

  • Brent Yen

    Just remind them how D-will was playing in Nets…

  • Brent Yen

    Great!!, everyone is welcomed to share his/hers opinion. Just stay positive and be respectful… 😛

  • Brent Yen

    I am not losing my sleep tho…..

  • Maknusia

    touch by roach

  • KHuang

    Completely reasonable.

    NBA fans who don’t follow every Lin move like we do, they don’t realize how much he’s been restricted in the NBA by coach race hate.

    Now that preseason games have begun, the consensus on Netsdaily is that “Lin will fall down to earth” even though we Lin fans know that he’s actually a superstar level player who’s finally being (sorta) allowed to show it consistently.

    Lin’s play will convince people eventually.

  • KHuang

    NO WAY.

    Portland doesn’t have the assets to trade for Lopez, unless Damian Lillard were included WITH Ed Davis!

  • KHuang

    No, it isn’t.

    You of all people should know that on a discussion forum of NOBODYs (including you and me), there is no such thing as a “serious proposal”.

    So relax, have fun with it!

  • kittyhead

    Why? Is that pattern some kind of evil symbol? lol

  • KHuang

    The article actually caused me to lose more of what little faith I had in the first place.

    It’s not Vasquez’s superb attitude or solid prior career or barely solid performance last game that’s bothering me.

    It’s that “manageable” ankle.

    Right now, that ankle has literally been the Achilles Heel of the Nets bench. Vasquez cannot defend or explode off that bad ankle.

    If the ankle improves over the season, Vasquez’s play will improve with it.

  • KHuang

    The best players get scrutinized the most, good or bad.

    Lin is the most scrutinized player on the Nets.

  • KHuang

    Deron Williams started strong, had bursts of quality play where he was “Deron Williams”, and eventually broke down not just physically but mentally.

  • KHuang

    Fans (heck NBA front offices) don’t always understand when a player changes teams, that completely changes the circumstances that made that player perform a certain way for a previous franchise.

    I’d go so far to say that even if a player stays with same team for two seasons in a row, his role can completely change. Just look at Lin in Houston.

    There is nothing more tantalizing – or POTENTIALLY FATAL – than placing total hope in a former All Star who switches teams.

  • KHuang

    You’ll be proven wrong about Brook Lopez “never” being able to play great pick and roll with Lin.

    You’ll see.

  • KHuang

    Absolutely the per 36 has merit.

    Through these preseason games, opponents indeed have been trying to legitimately stop Lin despite it “just being preseason”. Nobody has even come close.

    With Lin’s deadly ability to move off the ball combining with his totally polished on the ball skills, there’s absolutely no way to prevent Lin from either scoring or passing to guys for wide open shots. All one can do is hope Lin or his teammates miss.

  • KHuang

    I follow the entire NBA every season.

    Lin occupies about 90% of my attention, but I follow other teams too.

    I’m keeping a close watch on Charlotte Bench Force 1/2 (not 1 since they lost their prime performer in Lin), as I believe in Jeremy Lamb and Frank Kaminsky and even Spencer Hawes. Those three learned from Linstructor how to play the right way and are carrying the Hornets.

    Though I am from Phoenix, I still have paid that terrible team absolutely no attention. Even with Devin Booker shooting great, the rest of the Suns are so poorly put together that I cannot bear watching or following them. I really dislike Coach Earl Watson because he doesn’t control his players, and I dislike the weakmindedness and lack of physical toughness that Suns team have. I’m a Suns HATER despite living in my beloved town of Phoenix.

  • KHuang

    Greek Freak doesn’t impress me in the least.

  • KHuang

    I do not.

    PJ Hairston and Courtney Lee are NOT better than Lin – and that badly hurt the Hornets all season long.

    Walker and Batum are not better than Lin either.

  • KHuang

    Those are LOW numbers compared to what Lin will likely do this season.

    Lin was STILL being frozen out in the majority of those games.

    Compared to Lin’s solid Nets numbers, they’re actually weak.

  • KHuang

    McHale is just a talking head, he’s now a coaching laughinstock for placing all his faith in James Harden iso.

    NOBODY takes McHale seriously, even when he’s “praising” Jeremy Lin. Nets fans certainly don’t.

  • KHuang

    Minnesota will not win.

    As long as they have Ricky Rubio starting, they will always be burnt up defensively because Rubio cannot score and thus puts no pressure on opponents to actually guard him.

    I also think that Tom Thibodeau over there has his hands full trying to coach the Wolves youngsters how to win.

  • KHuang

    You are one ROUGH CUSTOMER.

    I LIKE IT!!!

  • 1mtoldman

    there are all kinds of numbers. i think i replied to a previous post of yours with some numbers i like to use for preseason thus far; call it “basic scoring efficiency quotient”–updating after last nites games lin moves up further :

    still # 1 among backcourt players up to # 3 overall (from #5) behind only gallinari, cousins and ahead of durant and whiteside.

    of course its just preseason and some people say preseason doesn’t matter.

    still you look at this run of leading players i would not be surprised if they also do well this season (of course assuming injure does not derail):

    backcourt: lin, klay thompson, conley, lillard, harden in that order
    frontcourt: galllinari, cousins, durant, whiteside and blake griffin in that order.

    ill selectively update as preseason goes on. once regular season begins i switch to a more complex site based broader data but this seems a good indicator for scoring efficiency with limited sample; i dont think there is any credible defensive formula with small samples–actually i dont really think theres any credible numbers to assess individual player defense period. (just my opinion)

  • Epie

    So I was at a local HS cross country competition yesterday and over heard 3 coaches talking about NBA. One of them was a Lin fan lol. He talked about how he’s excited about Nets and Lin.

  • norah mackenzie

    been following the hornets as well – they want to trade sessions already – somehow i dont think batum and walker will work out – even marvin williams is having issues with 3s apparently –

  • norah mackenzie

    thanks i think

  • norah mackenzie

    i think lamb and frank will be the cornerstone of the hornets – and cody once he is actually playing – i saw the games the hornets were playing – it just seemed off

  • norah mackenzie

    dont like russell because of his name tbh

  • KHuang

    Marvin Williams was the 2015 version of Steve Novak.

    Now that Lin is gone, Williams has regressed to preLinimary levels.

    Kaminsky and Lamb already ARE the cornerstones of the Hornets, but Clifford is too dense to see it.

  • KHuang

    Cody Zeller lacks fundamentals.

    I don’t think he’ll be much more than what he already is: a poor man’s white modern Shawn Kemp who is strictly a dunker and rebounder.

    I follow Charlotte not because I want to see them fail (not that there’s anything wrong with Lin fans wishing that), but because I really like Kaminsky and Lamb’s fundamental soundness and athleticism and team approach.

  • norah mackenzie

    he doesnt seem to like lamb much – if marvin misses his 3s then he is just like every other player – and i dont see any of the new guys dominating that much either – guess i will have to see a game

  • KHuang

    Cool.

    What Lin is doing this preseason, this is Lin’s FLOOR.

    Lin will play MUCH BETTER throughout the season, not that Lin has done anything wrong or played poorly or lost games via bad play.

  • Michael

    So that’s why he went bald.

  • takeme2cruz

    The lies became the truth about Lin’s just a decent backup pg which kept repeating by his past coaches, was the reason nets fans said what they thought.

  • KHuang

    The JR Smith contract is VERY FAIR for a starting SG who plays major minutes and averages double figure scoring for a championship team.

    JR Smith was paid Courtney Lee money – and less than Portland’s bench players Allen Crabbe and Evan Turner. And JR Smith is better than all of them.

    I’m a JR Smith fan, he’s really turned his attitude and game around now that he’s gotten married and is stable. He’s no longer trying to carry teams by himself, he is content to stick with being a spot up shooter and rugged defender. Smith doesn’t have the athletic talent to do more than that.

  • Yura

    Yup. Regular people have no idea how much talent he has and what he can bring to the table. They’ve just heard of Linsanity and didn’t follow him after that – so it is completely understandable for them to think he was a one-hit wonder.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is why Kevin McHale has wasted no time to jump on the Lin’s bandwagon because he has told so many lies about Lin. His lies are going to be exposed. Lin is athletic and talented but he has experienced hardships that players of less talent don’t have. Players of less talent have been nurtured but Lin was dissed and trashed.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Agree 100%

  • Yura

    Not with the Nets. This is his time to prove everyone wrong.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Portland has swallowed the poisonous contract that the Nets has offered to Allen Crabbe and they offered expensive contract to Evan Turner. Their cap space is at stake and I doubt if they can offer enough for Brook Lopez.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    And Lin plays like a team player should with no interest in padding his stats.

  • spiderman

    Started to pull his hair out

  • Yura

    It’s crazy to think how much power these ‘star players’ have.

  • KHuang

    “Incentives?”

    Throw Damien Lillard and CJ McCollum in with Ed and THEN you MIGHT get the Nets to listen.

  • Dongmen

    I believe that many of you (asian) have experienced this in street court here in US, when you have a beautiful pass or dive for a ball, someone (white or black) in your team or the other side would say:jeremy lin!

  • KHuang

    Sure, throw in Damien Lillard and CJ McCollum AND a first round pick for Lopez and some of the nonLin Nets.

    The Nets would STILL turn that down, but at least you’d get their attention.

  • freemind
  • freemind

    .. forgot to link to article accompanying this pic : Nets Sneaky Perimeter Depth.
    http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-east/brooklyn-nets/nets-sneaky-perimeter-depth/

  • Arsenium12 .

    After the Nets’ practice today (Sunday)
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/787695780270333952

  • Arsenium12 .

    Atkinson adds that ‘We’re pushing him to defend better, rebound better,’ while noting that Bogdan is ‘shooting the ball well.’ #Nets
    __________

    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/787701533991374848

  • Rick James

    I miss the non hulk version of lin, the slightly fat version…this one is a bit intimidating lol.

  • Jang

    Is Lin playing tomorrow? Don’t want to get tickets if he’s sitting out the game. 💀💀

  • Arsenium12 .

    Kenny Atkinson on Sean Kilpatrick …
    — ‘We want him aggressive, we love him aggressive, but also, it’s gotta be within what we’re doing’
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/787710530521792512

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Arsenium12 .
  • Vincent

    i thought you were a spurs fan 🙁

  • Pistolpete

    The Nets offense looks heavily dependent on 3 point shooting this year. That’s fine but the lineup they’re starting in preseason of Lin, Foye, RHJ, Booker and Lopez doesn’t have enough consistent 3 pointer shooters. The team does have excellent 3 point swing shooters in Bojan and Harris however. For this reason I feel that either Bojan or Harris (preferrably Bojan) should start in place of Foye.

  • Joe what do you know

    Yes. And that way Foye can control the ball when Lin is resting.

  • Spot

    Actually Foye is a really good 3 point shooter. But he’s slow on defense, that’s the problem.

    What concerns me the most now is defence. Lin and Lopez will find a way to score don’t worry.

    Plus I remember Horford saying he never hit a 3 and he developed a lot under Atkinson.

    Keep the faith.

  • Spot

    Agree

  • Spot

    Agree. If he defends better, he will start for sure.

  • Spot

    I’d wait regular season to get tickets. This games really doesn’t mean a lot.

  • Briiick

    With an empowered Lin there is nothing that can’t be fixed in offense.

  • aggressiveplayer

    We have to improve in both areas but I feel right now we should be more concerned on defense.

  • aggressiveplayer

    But check out this quote from the article:

    “The last game was really productive for me, in terms of moving [my body]. I feel much better. I’m getting there. The next few games are going to help me. I’m happy where I’m at.”

    Even though he’s not 100% there, he’s working towards it and I’m thinking playing these preseason games is prepping him for it. It’s like how if you haven’t done running in a while, you’re not going to straight up try a marathon. You have to slowly ease your way into it, and this is what I think GV is doing.

  • Spot

    Problem is the ones who are great shooters are bad defenders. And viceversa.

    Offense would be heavily dependent on Lin and Lopez. Who could be a deadly combo.

  • heart

    Of course, BUT knowing HOW to getting into position to rebound and defend is based on individual bb iq and coaching! Atkinson needs to review tapes and show those bigs where and when to anticipate the rock to catch it.

  • aggressiveplayer

    It’s okay though. I have faith in Atkinson developing these guys. He’s part of the reason why the Hawks won 60 when nobody expected it that year.

  • Spot

    That’s why I have faith in the Nets.

    Lin and Lopez will be unstoppable but others must step up too.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    Once the regular season begins, Foye will continue to score single digits like he has this preseason and his entire career. He just doesn’t have the lift or speed to be more than that.

    Starting Foye puts tremendous defensive pressure on Lin. That’s not because Foye isn’t a willing or even capable defender, it’s because Foye not scoring doesn’t wear the opposing shooting guard out defensively. Foye doesn’t need to be guarded, and so opposing SGs will put up good numbers against the Nets the way Avery Bradley (normally a brick shooting chucker) did.

    At least with Bojan or Harris (or BOTH, which would be my preference), opponents actually have to exert energy guarding those guys. That takes away from what opponents do offensively.

    The best defense in the NBA is a good offense.

  • KHuang

    The defense DEEPLY concerns me because I regard it as an OFFENSE problem.

    With 3 nonscoring starters that don’t have to be defended, opponents can rest defensively and score like crazy. That’s what’s been happening the last 4 games.

  • Yura

    wow…..just wow

  • KHuang

    Disagree – I feel that offense needs to be focused on more.

    Opponents are relaxing on defense because RHJ, Booker, and Foye can’t score. And the same goes for the bench where Vasquez lazily strolls upcourt, putting no pressure whatsoever on the defense and leaving the powerful Nets bench scorers in the lurch on both ends of the court.

  • KHuang

    I DON’T LIKE THIS.

    Losing teams in the NBA always focus almost exclusively on defense and rebounding, ignoring their inability to put points on the scoreboard.

  • KHuang

    Disagree VIOLENTLY!!!

    Atkinson needs to install traditional sets in, ram the ball deep into opposing NBA defenses, force opponents to scramble wildly to guard the post such that the perimeter guys can move more freely and the offensive boards can be collected!!!

    DO NOT AGREE!!!

  • KHuang

    ???

    Two more games to figure out if Bojan Bogdanovic will keep BADLY OUTPLAYING RHJ exactly the same way Lin badly outplayed PJ Hairston and Courtney Lee last season???

    ABSOLUTELY DO NOT AGREE!!!

  • KHuang

    Lin has been the best conditioned guard in the NBA since 2013.

    Nobody else even comes close to him in conditioning.

  • KHuang

    Kilpatrick is a SCORER, he’ll come around.

    I’d like to see him with Lin as opposed to the slow moving unproductive Vasquez – Lin will get Kilpatrick more offensive separation and that’ll make Kilpatrick a much more efficient scorer and better defender.

  • KHuang

    Disagree.

    Bojan hasn’t played enough minutes for anybody to know if he can defend or not.

    He cannot be worse than RHJ who has been BADLY LIT UP.

    Bojan is a GREAT SCORER, he’s gonna get his points whether it’s the dynamic Lin or the lazy passive Vasquez as his PG.

  • KHuang

    A nontroll question for my man CLICK CLICK:

    Click Click, what do you think that the Nets coaching focus needs to be on?

    I think it should be on emphasizing the post more, on trying some of the incredible bench scorers like Harris and Bogdanovic and even Bennett as starters, on using more picks and screens to free up the awesome Nets shooters, on playing Lopez at least 30 mpg and running the offense directly through him.

    I ask you because despite our differences, I deeply respect your views and you seem diametrically opposed to what I wish for the Nets. I also think that if anybody can convince me that the current Nets direction is the right one, YOU CAN.

    What does your EXPERT OPINION think?

  • Sundown

    Indeed. His career 3P% is a couple of points higher than Lin’s.

  • KHuang

    I’d rather have a great shooter who is a mediocre defender than a bad shooter.

    I’ve NEVER seen a bad shooter that was a great defender, EVER in the NBA.

    That’s because in the NBA, a nonscorer who focuses on defense will allow his opponent to rest defensively and focus on scoring (damn I sound like a broken mp3 player). The defender ALWAYS gets lit up.

    All of the nonscoring “great defenders” I’ve seen – Maurice Cheeks, Avery Bradley, Tony Allen, Bruce Bowen, even early Joe Dumars, and even the great Dennis Johnson in many games – they were WILDLY OVERRATED defensively and could not get key stops or even play solid defense as opposing guards regularly ROASTED THEM on offense.

  • zxcvb

    Foye is starting right now because he’s the only one who can run the motion offense besides Lin. He has the experience/IQ to make the right decisions on the fly while younger guys struggle. I think there’s a real chance he starts at SG to begin the season.

    Bojan prefers to dominate the ball (like he did for Team Croatia), so he’d probably be best as a 6th man for now. I still think he might be traded. He’s in a contract year and won’t be happy coming off the bench after a big summer.

  • KHuang

    But the overall career low volume of his shooting and scoring output doesn’t warrant Foye being highlighted as a 3 point shooter for any team he’s ever played for, Nets included.

  • KHuang

    I’d LOVE IT if Bojan Bogdanovic dominated the ball as a starter!

    That would open the court up for Lin and Lopez to move more freely!

    It would also put tremendous pressure on opposing shooting guards to guard him, thus taking away from their energy and production on offense.

    I’ve followed Randy Foye for like the last 10 years since he was in summer league scoring 24 ppg (the highlight of his entire pro career) but was utterly unable to translate that into actual NBA success. After all these years of abject failure, he’s not gonna suddenly become a stud scorer who strikes fear into opposing defenses. He’s a guaranteed fail because he doesn’t have the raw athleticism to start in the NBA, and the Nets are already finding this out the hard way!

    I say START HIM, let Bojan play like Bojan, WIN TONS OF GAMES with him!!!

  • KHuang

    I don’t have faith in ANYBODY “developing” guys like RHJ or Booker or Vasquez or Foye.

    Other than the totally clueless and inexperienced RHJ who’s essentially playing his rookie season, those other players have demonstrated with multiple teams that they lack the athleticism and talent and court sense to “develop” any further!!!

  • KHuang

    Linsanity was just PRESEASON to me.

    Since that run, Lin’s had SO MANY MORE Linsanity level games that nobody but us Lin fans cares about.

    Jeremy Lin is right that he’s “no longer Linsanity”. He’s WAY BETTER!!!

  • zxcvb

    I’m not against Bojan in the starting lineup, but with Lin locked in the way he is, I want to see Jeremy shooting as much as possible. He’s not having any trouble scoring with only Brook or Hamilton to take pressure off him. Backup PG is weak as well right now and Bojan can be a secondary playmaker.

  • KHuang

    I have NO FAITH in Atkinson developing Booker and Vasquez and Foye because all of them repeatedly failed at being developed by different teams when they were younger and healthier!

  • zxcvb

    i.e. “We can always fall back on Brook-Lin PnR.”

  • occupatio

    FWIW, bogs said he didn’t care if he came off the bench or started. saying the right things at least.

  • KHuang

    Not YET Lin is having trouble scoring.

    Once the preseason ends and opponents clamp down on Lin off the ball, even his amazing ability to shake free of opposing defenses off the ball will be taken away.

    If Lin has too much defensive pressure on him because he’s got 3 (maybe 4) nonscorers in the starting lineup, it will take away Lin’s shots because opponents won’t fear being made to pay by Lin’s nonscoring teammates.

    Lin is the point guard, he can dictate how much Bogdanovic shoots. And Bogdanovic doesn’t strike me as a selfish freezout iso player like James Harden or Kemba Walker or Nicolas Batum or Kobe Bryant at all. Bogdanovic won’t force bad shots when Lin’s open, and he’s not gonna walk the ball upcourt and refuse to allow Lin to touch the ball.

    I view Bogdanovic more like a Nick Young or Jeremy Lamb or Steve Novak: a tremendous off the ball scorer who puts up great numbers AND peels defenses off Lin so that Lin himself can put up MVP level scoring and assist numbers!

  • zxcvb

    Defense will toughen during the regular season, but so will Lin! Lin is going about 50% right now. That late and-1 against Boston was the first time all preseason I saw Lin go full-blast on a drive.

    Playing PnR, Lin can dictate Bogdanovic’s touches. In a motion offense, he has much less control. Foye is humble enough to let Lin be in control. Bogdanovic has $$$ in his eyes (understandably).

    If they fall back on PnR (which limits their potential, but guarantees beating mediocre teams), then Bojan should definitely start.

  • KHuang

    But Bojan as secondary playmaker cannot erase opposing PGs singlehandedly destroying the bench by tearing into the slow UNINTERESTED Vasquez on both ends of the court.

  • zxcvb

    Lin has said similar things in the past, though. I don’t blame Bojan for wanting to start and shoot 15 times a game — this is probably the only huge contract he will ever get. But it’s something to think about going forward.

    Bogdanovic, RHJ, even Lopez are not Marks’ guys. Lin, Booker, Hamilton are his guys. Marks won’t hesitate to clean house a bit if the right offer comes along — just like he did with Thad Young (whom most people thought was staying).

  • occupatio

    perfect solution is that bogs starts but comes out early, and then re-enters with 2nd unit for instant offense, then closes game.

  • occupatio

    bogs cannot make a pocket pass out of PnR like foye can. and he has trouble driving to bucket when the defense isnt scrambled. so foye allows 1st unit to have two ball handlers and pnr players. bogs cant do that. his dribble is too high and exposed, and his ability to create for others is limited.

    witness bogs’ two jump-in-the-air turnover passes in last game. he got the usual double pindown screens of motion offense and caught the ball at the top of the arc, and if that shot was open, then perfect, but it wasnt, and he tried to drive and found himself cut off and jumped to pass. harris, who has been in the exact same situation, was at least sensible enough to back out of the drive and do a hand off to lin for a side PnR.

    bogs can get a shot off from three basically against anyone due to his height. that is good for instant offense.

  • zxcvb

    I’ll give Vazquez more time to recover. His track record speaks louder than his preseason crappiness — he’s a very good backup at least.

  • KHuang

    But Vasquez is BROKEN DOWN and NOT YET HEALED – and he played slow like this for previous teams too.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah, that could work. Kenny seems to have so-so opinion on his defense, though. For now, I’m gonna trust Kenny, especially since it’s just preseason and time for trying things out.

  • KHuang

    I’ll happily take those HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD mistakes from a double figure scoring STAR like Bogdanovic over the NO RISK NO REWARD career single digit bench nonscorer like Foye who is not helping Lin or the Nets any on the court.

    This is the NBA, low risk means low reward!

  • occupatio

    the foye versus bogs as starter debate — not much worth talking about really, bc kenny will probably experiment with each one, so we will get a better look at how it goes.

  • occupatio

    foye has some skills that bogs lacks.

  • KHuang

    Not worth talking about because Atkinson is UTTERLY COMMITTED to Bogdanovic off the bench.

  • KHuang

    Bogdanovic would put tremendous pressure on opposing defenses early, cause them to scramble to defend him whether he hits shots or not.

    That would reduce opposing offensive guards from scoring wildly against the Nets like they have been against the nonscoring Foye.

  • occupatio

    no one has committed to anything except you hehe

  • KHuang

    Whatever those skills are – and I’ve been following Foye MUCH LONGER than I’ve followed Lin – they have NEVER made a positive NBA impact for ANY team.

  • occupatio

    the lin-lopez pnr would benefit the most from a shooter as nearby outlet. bogs is best candidate, harris is second.

  • KHuang

    I agree with you saying that I’m committed on my stance (but will happily change my tune if Atkinson changes), but I do not agree with you that Atkinson has ANY intention of starting Bogdanovic.

    It absolutely will not happen this preseason, that’s for sure.

  • KHuang

    I’d love to have BOTH of them as starters, they’d have much more DEFENSIVE impact due to their SCORING than Foye and RHJ.

  • KHuang

    I do not agree at all with Kenny Atkinson’s belief that Rondae Hollis Jefferson is the better defender than Bojan Bogdanovic.

    Until RHJ starts actually GETTING STOPS, I will continue to view him as the Patrick Beverley DEFENSIVE SIEVE that he has been since entering the NBA.

  • Spot

    I think we should wait the first regular season game. These ones are meaningless.

    It’s just KA finding a good rotation, trying what schemes are good for the team and stuffs like that.

    After the 1st game, we will have an idea on what’s going on.

  • KHuang

    Sounds good!!!

    Thanks for answering!

  • Vincent

    I second that. I was extremely negative towards atkinson during the nets last preseason game, but I realize i just have to chill and have trust in KA. We wont know how good or bad the nets will be without watching the first 5-10 games first. Look at poppovich he could care less about winning in the PS, heck sometimes he doesnt even care about regular season games because he doesnt want to reveal his playoff strategy.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Well, Atkinson has already given fans a dose of tranquilizer before experimenting. We should at least give him the benefit of doubt. Experimenting with limitation in basketball talents is a tough deal. I agree that we should wait for the first regular season game. For the time being, find out the short end of the Nets and the sacrifices that Brook-Lin has made for the team.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Vasquez does feel pressure to perform, the season just hasn’t started yet.

    We need to focus on defense because in the past few games we’re still allowing too many points for the opponent team. Also, if we play good defense the offense will come to us.

  • Joe what do you know

    I’m certainly no expert but I would like to see more focus on developing our SF position, and finding a reliable backup PG. In my opinion our bigs are not too much of a worry, perhaps a bit weak at inside D but overall they look to be battle ready and can play some good, smart games. My worry is our SF in RHJ who doesn’t have a shooting touch and loves his ISO while possessing not much of ball handling skills. Bog, who can be another SF candidate can shoot but lacks defensive stopping ability and is not very athletic. In short, we have 2 SFs each with some major flaws in their games. I think this needs to be addressed ASAP. Would be good if we can combine and make them into a single awesome player…

  • BobbyH

    If AB steps it up, he could be the answer, political factors excluding.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    more pnr and less of what you mentioned especially the post scoring and no on Bennett starting. we don’t need another Lakers season

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i never said Lopez “never” will be able to great play pnr. i said he will never be as good as ED playing pnr with Lin

  • Joe what do you know

    Speaking of Thad, wouldn’t he be a good fit for this system if he is still around?

  • TTNN

    unless you question coach’s willingness to go to Lopez in regular season games, otherwise with Lopez, there is really no need to worry about emphasizing the post more, as that is a given.

    On the contrary, in pre-season, they should emphasis on the perimeter, and games from other role players. because if they could play well, they will open up the floor for Lopez and for Lin to operate.

    I liked coach Kenny’s way, start with the plays to get role player going. As if they start to install Lin and Lopez’s game, then all the other players will defer to them a lot more, then when real game starts, coach don’t really know how much he could rely on those role players when Lin or Lopez is not effective, or if they were focused.

    I was really encouraged by Bob’s courtside video, you could see that Lin and Lopez are really comfortable with each other, they were talking and communicating all the time. So I would not worry about their chemistry, when regular season starts, ball will naturally go to them a lot more than pre-season, you will get your post presence pretty soon.

  • james brown

    i agree that a player needs to be an effective scorer even though is just an average defender to command respect inside the court. That way it will lessen the burden on his teammates offensively because he will also be guarded on by the opponents.

  • james brown

    they don’t need development right now but i guess they need to be disciplined on their their craft. they can’t be great anymore but they CAN still be EFFICIENT on their skills!

    that is my hope because they of high character players in the first place. they can be advised and they know how to accept suggestions and command.

  • sport

    Totally agree! I’m seriously not high on RHJ he should be with 2nd unit! Both Bog & Harris should start!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Luis Scola, Joe Harris, Randy Foye, Justin Hamilton, and most of all Brook Lopez and Bojan Bogdanovic will become the reliable core competence of the Nets with the addition of Jeremy Lin. There are already 7 proven NBA level players on this team in the preseason.

    If Anthony Bennet and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson can make progress in this season, the Nets could contend for a playoff spot with or without those other young players.

    I for one would think this team needs more veterans than young players to win more games for this season. With the cap space this team has, they would have no trouble to attract free agents to jump on the wagon which help this team to be a contender long before the young and their draft arrive.

    Give Jorge Gutierrez and Chase Budinger a shot to make the team and send those young prospects to D-league where they truly belong. The point is to make the best team possible for the coming season and win now.

    Yeah I didn’t mention Greivis Vasquez because he hasn’t been a factor until now. Think what this team could be with the help of improving Greivis Vasquez, Anthony Bennet and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson in the later part of season.

  • Briiick

    Good point !

  • HVJoy
  • Guest

    Yes he should be playing.

  • Bob NYC

    Did anyone catch the Jeremy Lin interview at The New Yorker Festival on Oct 9, 2016? I attended and I taped about about 95% of the 1.5 hour interview. Most are audio only. Two are video. Part 2b has a very touching part where he reveals how his parents sacrificed for him.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    One can recognize how good is Lin by seeing how bad is Hornets now without Lin.

  • norah mackenzie

    what happened to the hornets?

  • Arsenium12 .

    Long article drawing on the quotes Bryan Fonseca tweeted earlier today
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/787859626112978944

  • norah mackenzie

    you forgot trevor booker – and even bennett – why hasnt jorge or chase or yogi been tried out as yet?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    They were almost perfect in their preseason games until the last game of the season with Lin. This time around they were clobbered real bad until the last game against the Timberwolves.

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah i know that – they only won their last game with the timberwolves

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The roster of
    Trevor Booker, Luis Scola, Joe Harris, Rande Foye, Justin Hamilton +
    Lin, Brook Lopez, Bojan Bogdanovic
    is respectable (5 good players; 3 stars).
    With the up and coming improving Greivis Vasquez, Anthony Bennet and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, this team could go a long way.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Guess what the Nets would be with
    Allen Crabbe and Tyler Johnson,
    the team could be awesome but Lin won’t be the center of attention as much. My compliment to Sean Marks, the GM.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is not even a fair comparison.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Wolves essentially gave the game to them by playing their star Karl-Anthony Town 20 minutes; probably the worst game of him so far.

  • blueCypher

    He would still be the center of attention , and the back up point guard Tyler Johnson would be better than Vasquez at this point.

  • occupatio

    we dont see what kilpatrick does in practice, so coaches see something different.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Have some faith, man. It’s only been 4 preseason games. From what I’ve heard Kilpatrick was huge for the Nets even though they didn’t play a full season with him. He’s shown nothing at the moment, but just be patient.

  • aggressiveplayer

    “Kilpatrick and Bogdanovic, like everyone else donning the black-and-white, are also striving to adjust to the new offense as quickly and as effectively as possible. Kilpatrick says that while the offense is ‘fun’ to execute, it still comes with a learning curve that’s going to take some time to adapt to. Net fans may or may not want to hear this, but there will be growing pains, and players are cognizant of this.

    ‘You’ve got to get adjusted to what coach wants and adjust to what fits the team, and I think that’s something that all of us are trying to do,’ he said. ‘I think everyone is trying to figure out what their spot is and how the offense works, how it benefits the team. When you have coach teaching us in film and us being able to find ways to help on the defensive end I think is something that we look at and say ‘this is something we need to be better on’ because it’s going to help us win games down the road. With him being as hard as he is on us when it does come to film, I think that’s something that we do need, I think it’s good for our program. We have to move with a sense of urgency especially if we want to win in this league.'”

    I think this is the most important part of the article. Tells us that yes, the Nets are going to need some time before things get flowing.

  • Maknusia

    Brooklyn Nets Weekly Roundup: Preseason “Week 2

    Not only did the Nets fall apart in crunch time, but the young guys never saw the floor. I would have much rather seen Isaiah Whitehead or Yogi Ferrell at point guard than Greivis Vasquez. Vasquez was easily the Nets’ weakest link Thursday night, having the lowest plus/minus on the team, with -14. He had weak defense and at the end of the game, did not help the Nets on offense either. With so many guards on the team, it would have made sense to take out Vasquez and play Whitehead or Ferrell.

    For the Nets to succeed in the regular season, they will need to play Jeremy Lin and Lopez more. Not only those two players, but Luis Scola and Trevor Booker have been solid for the Nets so far. If these veteran guys continue to play well, it could have a positive impact on the rest of the team.

  • spiderman

    A good offense IS good defense particularly if you can get them in foul trouble

  • norah mackenzie

    it will be interesting to see how the hornets get on with their new guys ( politically correct reply ) heh

  • Maknusia

    lol……hahaha

  • norah mackenzie

    I know that I should be nicer but tbh i just think for the millionth time that the hornets wd have been better off with lin though i am glad that he got his wish as a starter etc. i wanted spencer hawes to keep experimenting with the hairstyle now it is just so boring.

  • Maknusia

    yeah…I liked Hornets as well…as Lin did with Kemba and Williams…unfortunately they dont have any plans to make Lin as starter or make room for it…..its their lost…..Lets see how NETS gonna go thru the rebuild process…there are gonna be ups and downs…I’m up for it…since Jeremy is leading it…go BrookLin 😉

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The deal of signing Jeremy Lin with $36M received cynicism from black commentators telling us he made more money than Steve Curry. Of course they have never mentioned how much 29 years old Mike Conley got in the off-season deal; that was so much more than Curry.

    Who was that self-proclaimed black union guy?

  • norah mackenzie

    vincent goodwill? everyone else who thinks that they have a right to comment on jeremy lin – no mention of any other big salaries for pple who don’t deserve it ( cough cough chandler parsons/batum/williams ) sorry for being “mean” but sometimes it just rankles me that everyone likes to use lin as an excuse to bash the guy. no wonder he needs to wear the hat now

  • norah mackenzie

    tbh i expect lots of downs but i am prepared no matter what. i hate soup also so i am a diehard lin supporter

  • norah mackenzie

    curry’s contract was signed ages ago so to compare that and lin’s is so unfair

  • Joe what do you know

    #thisis2016

  • Barry Allen

    I never heard Davis utter a word when Lin was getting $2M a year. What a joke

  • BobbyH

    Any doubter Andrew Godnick: http://isportsweb.com/2016/10/16/bold-predictions-brooklyn-nets/

    His bold prediction: “After the first 20 games, the Nets will have at most five wins”

    It totally ignores the Lin factor. Never mentioned Lin in the article. Another lazy writer churning out words based on perception.

    Let’s see how he eats his words.

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah take note of these articles then we can bring it up again when the Nets surpass expectations.

  • KL

    Honestly I have no doubts about Atkinson as a player development coach. Everything he has done so far has been with a long term view.

    However I have yet to see him manage the details of rotations and Xs and Os. I guess we will have to wait and see. Honestly I there is nothing I would enjoy more than Jeremy busting out of the gates with a winning streak (let the revenge tour begin!).

    However I am also tempering expectations with patience. But the winning will happen. Even if Atkinson cannot figure it out Jeremy will figure things out sooner or later.

  • 1mtoldman

    hawes is leading the hornets in assists.

  • 1mtoldman

    no pho fo yo.

  • 1mtoldman

    i dont get the hat reference.

  • Maknusia

    Many still dont know what JL brings…….this season should prove em wrong

  • Maknusia

    There are folks who dont believe in JL’s capability, but that doesnt mean they are racist. Lets not bring in race into discussion unnecessarily. cheers

  • norah mackenzie

    a joke to say that with all the nonsense they keep saying abt lin no wonder he needs to wear a hat to ” stand tall” from the haters and doubters

  • Spot

    Yep. Jeremy will.

    Anyway Atkinson must change rotations cause 1)it’s the first year in charge of the Nets 2) cause few players were in last year roster.

    So that’s Year 0 for everyone. We must have patience and trust the process. We’ll never find a better coach for Jeremy than Atkinson.

  • Spot

    Crabbe would’ve been in place of RHJ and Johnson of Foye. Team would’ve been better but we don’t know if Johnson would’ve shared the ball with Jeremy. If they had chemistry, they would’ve been one of the best backcourt in NBA. If not the best.

  • Acbc

    When I went to my first college art school way back in the 70s, there was nothing taught but modern abstract art. It was a very reputable school with many historical artists on staff. Back then, everyone was so afraid of stifling creativity. They believe so much in innocence that no formal structured technical craft was ever taught. There were always good work done by students, but they lack the fundamentals to really create any significant works. They lack the real substance of “raison d’être”. These works were mere copies of how past artists rejected tradition in their own way. After all, modern art’s main thrust was deliberately tearing down the formal structure of the visual language, how can you know what to tear down if you’ve never learned what that structure was?

    Put it another way, you just can’t be a great jazz musician unless you’ve studied formal music. Jazz is similar to modern art in a way because the musicality is rooted in the formal foundations of music. The more modern and free form jazz becomes, the further it moves microscopically into the building blocks of music. THAT musicality requires your ears to adapt and grow into to really appreciate it. Jazz and modern art is really not aimed at the masses, it is aimed at its own participants. Artist and musicians understand intuitively the subtleties in the dissonance and where that sound or painterly form comes from.

    Soooooo, this is why Atkinson must teach the formal structure of motion offence. It’s a structured template from which chaos can be created; like a jazz masterpiece that starts with a reframe of the standard, then seemingly chaos ensues only to suddenly come back to its formal roots. Everyone must have a structure to start from. Without it, there can’t be art and there can’t be creativity.

    I used to compare Lins play to jazz a lot and this is why. Jazz musicians often make split second decisions on how a tune goes. It’s from knowing the basic formal structure that players can make intuitive adjustments. A concert on any given night can go in many directions simply because the audience’s vibe changes. These changes are felt by intuitions. It can only work if all band members move instantaneously in that direction. It’s magical and it is pure chemistry.

    At the highest form of basketball that Lin plays at, he also feels the subtle changes needed in a given set and makes split second decisions that takes it way from the structure. It’s only by knowing that structure that he can tear it apart and bring it back together. Linsanity was a thing of beauty in this ways. The PNR highlighted Lin’s immense capacity to create something out of nothing. That free form Lin created was why it worked. It was PNR time after time but it was also unpredictable and undefendable.

    IMO, this is why Khuang and I always knew that Lin is something special. He simply has the creative makeup to take the game to a new level. It is also why Mchale still thinks Lin is reckless because he cannot understand the free form complexity of Lins game. That also explains why BS and Clifford was clueless with Lin as well, how can these coaches know how to coach Lin when they can only understand “chopsticks”. They simply can’t comprehend the complexity of chaos. LIN IS THE MASTER OF CHAOS. That’s why there’s beauty in the way Lin plays.

  • Brent Yen

    Thank you~

  • Acbc

    You are my yin to my yang in how many words we use, lol

  • Brent Yen

    I think I used too many words, word is enough….LOL

  • heart

    He revealed himself to us as a LOH. What a double standard on display, he has the audacity to proclaim himself as a “union guy” insinuating to the audience at large that he’s for ‘equality’. But little that he knows, he had elevated Lin to Curry’s status when he made the salary comparison. He had to use the top name, Curry along w/ Lin’s name to disparage Lin’s stature. Shame on him!

  • 1mtoldman

    brent used to be the master of the one liner; he has thru further study no doubt purified himself to the point where he is now the master of the one word-er.

  • norah mackenzie

    this is because none of the coaches esp mchale know the art of subtlety – mchale has always been a ” in your face” sort of player – tough, rough etc – that is why he is a lousy coach because he is unable to appreciate a different style. But i think it is more than disliking lin as a player – he just dislikes him no matter what. Please excuse my directness – but when one already has pre judged a person ( hint hint ) nothing that player can do or say will ever change the coach’s mindset. he never trusted lin and it showed in all his coaching decisions- and he had his very obvious favs as well

  • kauaiblue

    Is he playing?

  • norah mackenzie

    WORD

  • norah mackenzie

    can i become a sports writer too? they never get their stories or facts right anyway and still get paid. any offers available?

  • norah mackenzie

    that is ok – i am in good company

  • norah mackenzie

    good for hawes

  • Brent Yen

    Word

  • heart
  • TVN

    It’s the preseason. Several teams have started and given extended minutes to guys that won’t be in their rotation in the regular season. This board seems to be clueless. If he’s doing this in the regular season, then there’s reason for concern.

  • lleepar
  • Brent Yen

    This board is not clueless….just some fans are concerned…..

  • ProLin

    the way I see it is, when Lin is ball-dominate, it will be Lin-ball. But if the Net’s going to win when Lin’s off or injured, motion offense will have to do due to the lessor talents. So they are just trying to make it work for everyone else. I have no problem with that.

  • ProLin

    I would think so since he’s already hae his off night.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy at shoot-around …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/788045308903120896

  • TVN

    That is clueless. This happens every preseason for every NBA team. It’s not even the regular season and some fans here are whining about this or that or the other. It’s ridiculous.

  • heart

    Just pointing out the obvious that everyone sees but not everyone is agreeing. KA had said he lets the ‘roster determines the system’, but we’ve seen the reverse thus far..Just saying
    https://twitter.com/JHAposts/status/788027202021515264

  • heart
  • Brent Yen

    That is far from clueless…..It is not like the whole roasters and coaches will be replaced on the season opener…..There is always some traces

  • psalm234

    new game thread
    Growing Chemistry, Defense, and Deep Bench
    http://www.jlinportal.com/p5-bkn-nets-vs-bos-celtics-growing-chemistry-defense-and-deep-bench/
    Coach Atkinson would probably want to keep some weapons like Brook-Lin PnR hidden against the Celtics because they will face them again in only 9 days in the 1st regular season game. Coach would love to steal Game 1 on the road against a projected high-seed playoff team to build his player’s confidence.

    Expect the starters to also play up to 25 min so it won’t stretch them too much. Keeping the players healthy and growing the chemistry of the 1st and 2nd team should be the #1 priority with only 2 preseason games left. Let’s keep them in our well-wishes and prayers.

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s go, Nets!
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/788055411152662529

  • spiderman

    Atkinson seems to be taking a long-term approach to the development of the Nets as a whole. The hope is that he won’t sacrifice the excitement of this season — now Lin’s prime — for the sake of development. The NBA is fundamentally entertainment with players always in flux (leaving and coming). As the floor general, The “Master of Chaos” will be able to help the Nets both develop its players and bring beauty out of the chaos.
    Excitement and wins should be reserved for NOW (when regular season begins). Lin can bring it, but if it’s muffled in ~player development, the motion offense will become wasted motion.

  • Acbc

    Yes Brent is the zen master of the “word”. You know you’ve done something good when he gives you the word, lol

    It’s been nice to see you posting again.

  • grover chang

    I don’t think clueless is the reason for all the chatter. We are talking about preseason games because we only have preseason games to talk about. We want to talk about Lin and the preseason games are all we got.

  • Rick James

    Excellent post. I also think that lin is great at making creative plays from chaotic situations. At same time I think lin has also refined his game, he has mastered a lot of the subtleties and knows how to find the gaps in defense or how to create them himself. That is a reason for his lower turnover rate the last few years. His decision making has improved and he looks more like a commander that is confident in himself. It’s natural in my opinion, he is a veteran now in his 8th year in the league.