P6 NY Knicks vs BKN Nets: The Final Tuneup

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As we near the start of the season game (Oct 26th), this game provides a different perspective to test as much as possible with the actual starting lineups. It will be interesting to see the lineup and rotations that Coach Kenny Atkinson would employ.

After the last cut, we are also going to see a 16 man squad before NETS finalize their 15 man team for the season.

So would the last preseason resemble the regular-season rotation after the roster is cut to 16? It sounds like Coach Atkinson wants to see more regular-season rotations, although he still wants to see Jeremy plays with different guys.  It would be the final tune-up before the Nets opens the regular season on the road against the Boston Celtics in only 6 more days (Oct 26)

“I think I’m going to look more at our regular-season rotations. I still want to get some other guys some time … but I definitely want to see our regular rotation for longer stretches,’’ Atkinson said. “We obviously want those guys playing together a lot, but we also want to see Jeremy with different guys.

And it’s good to know Lin relishes the motion offense so he doesn’t have to play Pick-and-Roll everytime. It will only help him and the Nets to be more unpredictable to the opposing defense by having variety of offensive options.

The motion offense appears to have agreed with Lin so far. He’s averaging 15.5 points on torrid .606 shooting and .471 from 3-point range, with a team-high 18 assists.

“I’m much better than where I was in training camp last year in terms of my shot,” Lin said. “I’m more confident in it.

“A lot of times you’d see me passing it up or hesitating; but here I’m shooting every open 3, and that gives me more space to be able to drive the ball. It allows me to be able to play where I don’t have to be the one playing pick-and-roll every time. I can find space on the weak side and be a threat in a different way.”

We might see the starters to play between 25-30 min so it won’t stretch them too much. If Jeremy plays more with the 2nd team (i.e. Joe Harris, Kilpatrick, Justin Hamilton, etc.), he would have more minutes than other starters. Grievis Vasquez would need to regain his playing form sooner than later so he can allow Jeremy to rest during gametime. A win against the in-town rival and healthy players would be the ultimate outcome to build the confidence for the young Brooklyn Nets team but the NY Knicks would not go down easily even during a preseason game. Let’s keep them in our well-wishes and prayers.

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s go, Nets!

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  • 1mtoldman

    someone asked and it was delivered…now where’s brent? with a (just a) word.

  • heart

    hope alive!

  • Chipdip

    Lin to win!

  • KHuang

    I hope Atkinson plays Lin and Vasquez together this game.

    Vasquez needs to be SHOCKED into playing better.

    This disinterested lackadaisical lack of effort in Vasquez, that has absolutely nothing to do with his injury. Vasquez is simply not competing because he is NOT MOTIVATED. There’s no need for him to fight hard for his job when he knows that he’s receiving tons of undeserved minutes despite being badly outplayed by Yogi and the training camp cut Gutierrez.

    Let Linstructor greyhound Vasquez this game, maybe that’ll teach Vasquez that he needs to simply PLAY HARDER if he’s gonna be on this up and coming Nets team.

  • 1mtoldman

    btw another preseason stat note: lin is #1 in shooting % among all qualified (minimum reached shots/playing time) guards.

  • swijayas

    Let’s hope this carries to the regular season, justifying Lin to be an all start & help bringing Nets to the unexpected play-off

  • psalm234

    I don’t think it’s necessarily low motivation by Vasquez. Most likely, it’s confidence issues not trusting the surgically-repaired ankle.

    When I saw him blowing an easy layup in one game, I noticed he might be hesitant due to hard contact. I think with time, he’ll trust his body and play well. Hopefully it will be in Nov-Dec timeframe and not Jan-Feb

  • Maknusia

    Sadly I’m gonna miss this game…..so keep the updates coming during game thread…you guys will be my eye! 🙂

  • Maknusia

    yup…remember when JLin came back from surgery, it took him till Jan to get his body fully on game mode

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Maknusia

    Thanks….its throws better perspective as well

    quote

    Iso plays are extinct… thankfully.

  • Pistolpete

    Hopefully if the game is close KA will finish the game with the starting unit. It would be great for team morale to get a win entering the regular season. I’ve been very unimpressed with Whitehead so far but he may develop in the D league. At any rate I think he’s had his chance and if KA is going to evaluate point guards any more I hope Yogi gets some time. I did watch Yogi in preseason and was not impressed but I hear (wasn’t able to watch most preseason games) he played well. So he probably deserves some more burn. Anyhow I’m psyched to watch the game tonight on NBA tv. Go Nets!

  • Pistolpete

    I meant I watched Yogi in the summer league.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    We don’t know if it works because we haven’t seen it yet!

  • psalm234

    Good article
    @ringer When there’s blood in the streets, buy land: It’s a great time to make the Nets your new favorite team. @bdetrick

    The 2016–17 Brooklyn Nets are the expansion team they never took the time to be four years ago. Your New Brooklyn Nets are bad, likable, and hopeful. Expectations, bloated salaries, and empty promises from Russian oligarchs are gone.

    https://twitter.com/ringer/status/789106423905001472

  • David Kim

    “I’m definitely not a systems guy,” said Atkinson. “I just love Mike D’antoni’s offense, love it. You know, in a beautiful world, spreading the court like that, that would be utopia but I think I’m intelligent enough to understand your players, your players’ strengths — and I’m still discovering our roster — and if that means slowing the ball down and pounding it inside and that’s best for our team and best for our roster, that’s what we’re going to do.”

  • Vincent

    Lol he knows his players strengths then he should play mda style offense. Lin ran mdas style offense better than anyone except MAYBE nash

  • DanCohen

    Don’t really get it.. Brook lopez is on da nets the longest and he is pretty
    good player. (underrated). But why is he not the franchise player..
    or is he.. or more like co-captain of the team? Seems like all article
    is saying this is lin’s team.. but shouldn’t this be brook’s team since
    he is good and been there the longest? Sometimes they market them
    both.. but many use lin as da face when talking about nets.. is it
    because he is also new acquicistion?

  • Rick James

    Let’s beat the Knicks!!

  • KHuang

    Nash had healthy max contract players in their prime to run D’Antoni’s offense with, Lin had broken down old malcontents and minimum wagers.

    Nash would not have put up Linsanity numbers with Lin’s Knick roster.

  • HVJoy
  • KHuang

    But Lin played SUPER HARD and still had multiple Linsanity level performances in that span.

    Vasquez, he’s conserving his energy because he wants to make sure he’s well paced. But this deliberate laziness is dragging the entire team down.

    I want to see Vasquez play much harder. He’s not going to get in better shape by strolling. Lin will get Vasquez to attack!

  • KHuang

    Well, I do hope that the Nets run SOME iso for Brook Lopez.

    The Spurs and Hawks routinely did this with Tim Duncan and Al Horford, so it’s not as if Atkinson is unfamiliar with post up iso tactics.

    Iso through Lopez doesn’t necessarily mean a selfish bricked miss against two defenders.

  • aggressiveplayer

    They’re both the face of the franchise. One thing that should be noted is that Brook is not really the leader type of guy. He’s pretty quiet and sort of a passive dude. If he were really vocal like a Lebron James or Damian Lillard he would probably be the more clear cut face of the franchise. Also from a marketing perspective, they should make Lin the face of the franchise as well.

  • spiderman

    Agree – it’s a strength he should use.
    Would have effect of getting opposing big men in foul trouble

  • Acbc

    I have no worries about Lin this season. Think back to December 17 vs Raptors when Lin scored 35 as shooting guard with Walker on the floor. Even in the motion offence, Lin will get his because if they want to win, they’ll need Lin to put up the numbers.

    Lin is too good a complete player to be silenced. Only the coach and politics can do that. The Nets need Lin to win and build a new culture and foundation. Like many have said, there’s zero chance they’ll tank because they’ve got no draft picks. They need to build from within and trades.

    The problem with taking the ball out of Lin’s hand is that he can’t be as effective in helping his teammates to get their ideal shots. In terms of developing a stronger team, Lin needs to be” coach Lin”. His own numbers will suffer but the team would become better in the long run. If we want Lin to have a chance of winning anything with the Nets, we may need to suffer through some growing pains.

  • aggressiveplayer

    On Saturday, Hollis-Jefferson remained in the gym long after practice, firing up 3s from various spots around the arc. After bonking several off the rim, he drained four in a row and exaggeratedly fanned himself as he jogged to the next launching point. Atkinson is encouraging him to take those shots in games. “He was 0–2 the other night, but the two he took were wide open,” said Atkinson. “I put my arm around him and said, ‘Take the next one, take the next one.’ I think that’s how you develop. I saw Marcus Smart last year, and he was shooting 19 percent, and they kept letting him shoot it. Then the playoffs come and Marcus Smart starts lighting us up.”

    Great paragraph from The Ringer.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    This is Dantoni style coaching where you let your players play through mistakes and build their confidence. This is exactly the type of coach Jeremy will excel with. I remember McHale would take Jeremy out after making just 1 turnover.

  • Steppen03

    There were trade rumors about Lopez but I don’t believe an ounce of it. Lopez is a solid player on a competitive team. The reason for the rumor is people “think” so lowly of this Nets team. That said, JLin have to be the franchise leader because he’s the “elite” point guard – not some 2nd tier player like most the league think he is. Also, he will be the highest scoring player on this team averaging around 24-26pt per game per 35min.

  • DanCohen

    well. harden is soon to be seeno.

  • Acbc

    This what all good coaches do

  • takeme2cruz

    Clifford to Lin “the next time you miss, you sit”

  • DanCohen

    how many thinks that brandon jennings will want to show up lin ..due to that snafu in the offseason.
    That’s where I’m afraid injuries might happen (knocko on woodio)

  • spiderman

    Is Billy Walker available for Nets?
    Always considered him significantly underrated

  • aggressiveplayer

    Nets have one of the roughest schedules.. projected 5 extra losses than they should have.. Man this sucks considering we’re already projected as one of the worst teams in the league. Hopefully Kenny & Nets staff will help to accomodate for this somehow.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Arsenium12 .

    Some very nice video of a Nets’ scrimmage …
    __________

    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/789160525531754496

  • 1mtoldman

    depending on which wikipedia heading you wish to believe he’s either currently playing in croatia or last played in the philippines.

  • psalm234

    @NYPost_Berman
    “#Nets looking to play regular-season rotation.
    #Knicks looking to play regular-season rotation – save for no Rose.
    Sounds like a night.”
    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/789204210407530497

  • Rick James

    I don’t know who you are but I like your name.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Photo of Jeremy, in the bottom-right of the montage …
    _________
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/789219347369635840

  • 1mtoldman

    fivethirtyeight preseason predictions have nets with worst record (as most) but do have them over on vegas odds with 23 wins.

  • Rick James

    23 wins is worst record? Hm, last season 76ers won 15 games total am I right? Lakers were not much better, I think they won something like 20 games.

  • 1mtoldman

    sixers won only 10; lakers only 17 but yes this particular prediction model (and really all this site does primarily is predict things from various theoretic models) has the nets the fewest wins at 23.

  • Rick James

    so these guys are predicting the 6ers jump from 10 wins to more than 23 in a single season? Thats a bit crazy, considering how their new draft pick ben simmons is injured and the team is still full of rookies. Lakers might do a bit better, they got a few good players and especially their new coach Luke Walton has a lot of potential. These models though are pretty weak…basketball is a team sport and statistics end up being useless in such cases where anything can happen.

  • blueCypher

    Jarret Jack got waived by Atlanta.

  • Vincent

    Your missing my point lol. Why wouldnt kenny want to run some mda type offense when he has lin who is the perfect pg to run it

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    he couldn’t laugh now.

  • Kwok Wai Lai
  • psalm234

    @NBATV: How will @JLin7 fit in with the @BrooklynNets?
    https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/789227049596493826

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Feel bad for him.

  • 1mtoldman

    i think more than half of last seasons nets roster probably wont be on an nba team come opening day.

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! Didn’t know that…..

  • CJSHYY

    I am sure Lin will fit in very well.

  • 1mtoldman

    donald sloan (china) henry sims (just waived by utah) thomas robinson (trying to make cut with lakers) willie reed (might make heat roster with bosh n.a.) shane larkin (euroleague) sergev kerasav (russia) markel brown (think the cavs just cut him) andrea baragnani (euroleague) and of course jack (just waived by atlanta)

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Thanks for the infor….It’s not easy to survive in NBA.

  • 1mtoldman

    im not arsenium the lin-cyclopedia but i do what i can.

  • Lin Dunn

    is Malcolm Delaney playing in Atlanta?

  • 1mtoldman

    they cut jarret jack and ex lin teammate ryan kelly but the most updated training camp roster/depth chart i can find shows delaney as backup point guard. still there.

  • psalm234

    Interestingly, Foye starts at SG instead of Bogdanovic.
    Not exactly the expected starting rotation
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/789235724524609536

  • psalm234

    Gotta love Robin 🙂

    @robinlundberg
    Knicks play the Nets tonight? Best point guard in NY still Jeremy Lin.
    https://twitter.com/robinlundberg/status/789235925930930176

  • 1mtoldman

    its been the starting rotation most of preseason hasn’t it?

    to quote a poster on a nets fan board: “lin, foye, rhj, booker, lopez. atkinson seems comfortable with this lineup thats been trotted out so far.”

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    wow, I guess Foye will be the starter…I disagree with that but hey…I simply don’t see what Kenny sees in Foye to make him the starter.

    Yes, he can handle the ball a bit, but I frankly haven’t seen the benefit out of it..Foye has been bad in these preseason games and don’t tell me it’s just preseason because he’s a 33 year old who is coming off the worst year of his career.

    Can’t expect him to give you much.

  • psalm234

    Lin’s 18 straight 3s in shootaround is not too shabby
    He wants this Knicks game 🙂

    https://twitter.com/_bk_chino/status/789232137383845889

  • spiderman

    I think the better question is: How will the Nets team fit in with Jeremy Lin?

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. Lin wants to get this W. Melo didn’t play yesterday. So I guess he saved his energy for today… interesting to see who will win the game today.

  • CJSHYY
  • psalm234

    Perhaps, defensively Foye is better than Bojan and Foye got a nice chemistry with Lin.
    I haven’t seen much of Lin & Bojan playing together.

    It’s a bit weird because if the rumor is true Bojan might get traded in Feb, he’ll need to start and play lots of PT to increase his values

    My guess is Coach KA wants to see if this lineup can shock the Knicks right off the gate w/ better defense

  • Joe what do you know

    I guess because no one can win games all by themselves. You need the TEAM to perform up to their potential as an unit. As a coach of a TEAM, you need to figure out a way to have MOST of your players perform up to par and not just ONE particular player. We as Lin fans would naturally question Kenny’s intention for not adopting MDA’s offense system because we care about Lin’s performance more than any other players on the team. But Kenny isn’t just Lin’a coach. He is responsible for the entire team. So even if Lin is performing at 120% under MDA system, if the rest of the team hasn’t figured a way to elevate their play at the same time, the games will still be lost. Plus we don’t know what the situation truly is behind the scene so let’s just wait it out a bit.

  • psalm234

    yes, both team wants this badly

  • heart

    Psalm. Up for prayers @7:17!

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah… still dont believe… although commentary is much better than before…

  • psalm234

    true

    It’s just that we heard so much about Bojan getting a lot of rest due to summer Olympics but we still expect him to start in the regular season. So Coach KA might simply stick with his best starting lineup in the preseason

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang

    Starting line up is not the best players. Harris and Hamilton should be out there.

  • blueCypher

    Good stream ?

  • kauaiblue

    knicks are bad.. we better beat them!

  • blueCypher

    All I’m looking at is the chemistry of the rotation players , especially the starting unit.

  • kauaiblue

    yeah, sounds good…

  • james brown

    unless fall from the want the nets to win, let us focus more on the teams development

  • blueCypher

    Interesting, the Knicks are not starting Jennings even with Rose out.

  • blueCypher

    And, please, no one get hurt 🙂

  • psalm234

    oh yes… Lin’s drive and And-1!
    Sasha can’t keep up with him

  • fungch1218

    any live stream? pls

  • psalm234
  • Epie

    wow go nets! smooth

  • psalm234

    Lin’s assist to RHJ 3!!
    6-2

  • blueCypher

    Uh oh, Uh oh. Brook Lopez – more assertive 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    Looking good so far…

  • psalm234

    Lopez muscled it in. And-1!

    Nets having their way in early game 🙂
    9-2

  • CJSHYY

    Melo can’t make any shot yet… lol

  • fungch1218

    thanks x 99999

  • psalm234

    Booker just drove in for an easy layup
    11-2

  • blueCypher

    I like dumping it in to Lopez in the low post to mix it up

  • psalm234

    Lin got hit, no call..
    He’s going to get mad here

  • cshot

    just started tuning in. hows our boy doing?

  • stam

    this is on the brooklyn court too.. the unfair officiating has started for lin already.

  • psalm234

    he might need to pull Harden head-move to start getting some calls here

  • psalm234

    Lin left-handed scoop … 2222!

    15-12

  • Chipdip

    Lin for the win!

  • sport

    Just checked it not to long ago, who started the game?

  • Mr Chuckles

    Lin has 3 turnovers already? What happened? 2-3 fg and 3 ast are nice.

  • Chipdip

    What a play by Lin!

  • spiderman

    fingers crossed. Vasquez in

  • psalm234

    LOL Melo stole from RHJ,
    Lin stole it back from him

    RHJ for easy 2!

  • sport

    LOL Lin totally showing up Melo pursuing that steal after the ball was loss by teammate! Awesome!

  • golfhacker

    Lin picks Melo’s pocket and gets assist!

  • blueCypher

    This Hamilton dude is just a solid pro, enough said 🙂

  • psalm234

    Lin, the Melo pick-pocket, is smiling widely as he earns his rest at the bench 😀

  • Win

    Scola defends worry me….

  • zxcvb

    No biggie. Travel. Bad handoff by Lopez. Hit in the mouth (no call).

    He’s beasting so far! Want to see a jumper though…

  • blueCypher

    I think in the regular season, after Lin makes a steal play like that late in the quarter, Atkinson will not pull him out right away

  • Vincent

    refs def bbotched one call

  • sport

    LOL didn’t know RHJ was the one who made the shot, my streaming quickly is horrible.

  • sport

    Anyone have HD streaming quality? Mine is horrible!

  • Vincent

    lol he played long this quarter

  • Win

    Bogdanovic forcing too many shots….

  • Goodday

    thanks psalm, better than nothing 🙂

  • Vincent

    shoulda been fouled no?

  • TVN

    Nets have a big hole at the SG spot. Maybe LeVert is the answer, but that won’t come until maybe mid-season or so.

  • stam

    agreed. TO could have been prevented if he had waited for his team to regroup.

  • sport

    D Rose not playing yet both team are level in points. Wonder how it would be when D Rose is back being Point.

  • Peter Truong

    Miss read sorry lol

  • Win

    I thinks is good defense by Lee.

  • Vincent

    ah my stream was lagging a bit

  • cshot

    boggie is looking pretty bad? idk why hes taking such forced shots

  • blueCypher

    Melo is the biggest tease. He is a gifted offensive player, but whenever the ball goes to him everyone just watches.

  • Spyckie

    His decision making this game is not right. He did not triple threat for the 3 and his drives are not “crafty”, which is what he needs to get them off.

  • tee

    yeah… not liking his iso drives.. seen it too many times now..

  • james brown

    NO.he forced it instead of passing the ball..he believe on himself too much but just making ZERO!!!need to chill and let the game come to him.

  • psalm234

    haha .. you can tell Lin was very happy with himself, especially when he assisted RHJ to score!

  • sport

    Volume shooter and selfish player what do you expect? They are used to not being passed the ball that’s why they stand there.

  • Spyckie

    looking to create for himself but can’t. He needs to rely on craftiness or strength, not speed, which he is trying to right now

  • james brown

    noticed it since the first preseason game.

  • stam

    Coach is still not playing regular rotations, brook only played 4 mins.

  • tee

    yeah man. seems so selfish. not liking his style of play.. seems to be me first

  • psalm234

    This MeloStoleRJH-LinStoleMelo-LinAssistedRHJ sequence made Lin giddy going to the bench to rest LOL

    4:05 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson makes layup (Jeremy Lin assists) 14 – 17
    4:09 Carmelo Anthony bad pass (Jeremy Lin steals) 14 – 15
    4:13 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson bad pass (Carmelo Anthony steals) 14 – 15

  • Win

    Melo plays the entire qtr.

  • blueCypher

    Ya, that three bricked badly

  • sport

    Good he will be gassed by the end and Lin will seal the deal!

  • stam

    Don’t tell me Grevis thought he was lin with that drive lol

  • Spyckie

    Hamilton is GREAT at finding the open shot.

  • blueCypher

    The bench play though, not giving me hope

  • psalm234

    The 2nd team has noone to penetrate inside so it’s hard for 3pt shooters to get enough spacing

  • cshot

    more knicks fans at barclays? lol

  • Spyckie

    that last play was really nice, except for the stepping out of bounds.

  • stam

    Wow vasquez.. damn that was a good 3 pt. Too bad out of bounds.

  • psalm234

    but stepped out of bound :{

    Vasquez can make those 3s

  • Vincent

    lead evaporates once lin is out lol whats new

  • TVN

    This unit is slow and lacks athleticism.

  • sport

    You know KA is finally serious when he’s standing up and yelling out instructions to the team.

  • Win

    What a dumb foul…

  • stam

    thank goodness it was 2pt not 3pts

  • Spyckie

    was the result of a decision by scola to swarm the ball handler up top

  • sport

    Nets will have to do better, Knicks aren’t even that good of a team.

  • HVJoy

    Positive thinking!

  • blueCypher

    KA is gonna lose his hair trying to figure out what to do with the bench 🙂

  • cshot

    randy helping out the bench is a little bit easier on the eyes lol

  • sport

    Play Lin more and have him lead 2nd unit a bit? lol

  • psalm234

    good challenges but Foye needs to learn not to foul.

    I saw Kilpatrick with the same hustle but fouled 3pt shooter hard in the previous game

  • Spyckie

    haha yeah. To be fair, it was bench versus starters for a lot of it.

  • Goodday

    can someone plz tell me who started the game??

  • Spyckie

    Lin Foye RHJ Booker Lopez

  • psalm234

    he can break down the defense quite well .. so it’s not so slow-footed 😀

  • Goodday

    i see, thanks~

  • sport

    Technically it wasn’t much of a lead and the score has been pretty equal through the game.

  • james brown

    maybe that’s why KA is not so keen on him in the starter position because of his mindset?

  • CJSHYY

    Why Lopez plays so less min?

  • james brown

    he wants to prove too much!

  • Goodday

    i wanted to ask that too, haha

  • chan c

    Any good Livestream , plsss..?

  • sport

    Thanks, I also wanted to know who started.

  • psalm234

    JHam for 3!!!
    27-24

  • sport
  • blueCypher

    Hamilton impressing me by the minute

  • chan c

    Thanks! :))

  • CJSHYY

    Vasquez can’t make the shot yet but good in AS.

  • Spyckie

    Love his shot selection and off ball decision making.

  • psalm234

    JHam starts to look like Steve Novak from afar 🙂

  • blueCypher

    Is it Sean Kilpatrick’s rest day ?

  • sport

    Better version of Novak.

  • psalm234

    Harris for 3!
    30-29

  • psalm234

    yes, more athletic and taller
    hopefully as clutch in big games

  • Win

    But also not very good on D.

  • psalm234

    thanks, I’ll feature it

  • Vincent

    put lin back in

  • Spyckie

    Skil and Bennett in.

    Vasquez Booker Skil Bennett Harris

  • psalm234

    yes, just a little better than Novak in D

  • Goodday

    its preseason still

  • HVJoy

    Returned home at the end of 1Q. The game is blocked on NBA channel without LP, not shown on YES channel (why?), fortunately broadcast on MSG channel. Our 2nd unit is doing well!

  • CJSHYY
  • psalm234

    Good penetration by Vasquez for a layup
    He’s regaining form …

    *phew* thank God for JLin’s sake 🙂

  • blueCypher

    LOL, anything to give us hope 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Finally…

  • Goodday

    commentators are from Knicks right?

  • james brown

    still pre season and bench playing cohesive now..testing bennet again. ham is making his shots..so far so good.NYK wants to win because melo played almost all of first quarter..LOL!

  • FrankW

    right

  • james brown

    yeah..MSG!

  • psalm234

    give us anything, layup, FTs lol

  • kauaiblue

    yes, they love jlin…

  • cdblue10

    Vasquez is getting his groove

  • Rick James

    I recognize the voice of one of the knicks commentators from linsanity days.

  • Rick James

    more knicks fans than nets fans in barclay

  • psalm234

    Gotta love Melo’s reaction looking at the ref, “Ref, you’ll let him steal from me after I made a steal?”
    then jogging to see the easy score

  • blueCypher

    Heh, is Lin done for the half ?

  • Win

    Scola was like guiding Jenning to drive that lane. LOL

  • cdblue10

    Harris is continue giving havoc for Knicks

  • HVJoy

    Lin just checked in!

  • psalm234

    Harris shooting stroke is so pure

  • cdblue10

    Harris is pretty sharp

  • Win

    I see no different yet from this game to any other preseason game.

  • stam

    why does brook play so little? shouldn’t he be practicing with Lin?

  • Goodday

    j lin in

  • Epie

    HARRIS!

  • Win

    Harris!

  • psalm234

    JLin in with 6:50 left in Q2
    39-37

  • psalm234

    wow, Harris can be the Nets’ 6th Man

  • Rick James

    refs playing for the knicks

  • negsintheair

    Is my impression or there are more knicks fans at the Barclays.

  • HVJoy

    oops… 3rd TO for Lin

  • psalm234

    Jennings tried to shake Lin but gave up

  • stam

    4th TO

  • HVJoy

    exactly!

  • psalm234

    Good challenge by Lin to cause a missed 3

  • stam

    They should set some screens for Lin…

  • Rick James

    yep pretty bad TO. Lin always plays a bit nervous against knicks.

  • Vincent

    come on lin lol its obvious turnover when there are 3 guys packing the lane

  • DX

    4 TO already, really bad, even for pregame.

  • james brown

    thats ok because he’s trying to create and be aggressive…he’s a bit cozy still with his game though effective.

  • blueCypher

    choppy stream, anyone got a good one ?

  • cshot

    jeremy needs to improve those handles lol so he can play with the ball.

  • Vincent

    mines choppy also 🙁

  • james brown

    show off..not a high character player!

  • stam

    I think he’s just getting hacked and no calls..

  • Rick James

    unfortunately LP is blacked out for me….dumb knicks games are always like this.

  • Vincent

    your right hes not used to be the main ball handler

  • cshot

    my stream is bad :/ hopefully it wasnt too much of carelessness

  • james brown

    its part of the game..just this game, and he already fixed it so for now let it be.

  • Rick James

    hes not playing his regular self, he doesn’t have such bad handles normally. Im guessing just a case of nerves.

  • Epie

    http://baltak.com/nba3.php will delete it in..few min

  • stam
  • cdblue10

    4th to for Lin

  • psalm234

    1 was a hit that didn’t get called
    there’s another hit but wasn’t sure

    but yes, the ball-handling TO can be cleaned up

  • Vincent

    another one?

  • cdblue10

    Pass too early

  • kauaiblue

    wheres lopez?

  • Vincent

    whats going on lol

  • cshot

    ok that was bogs fault lol

  • cdblue10

    Assist for Lin to scola

  • cdblue10

    Bogs from the ballpark

  • psalm234

    yup, but 5th TO is attributed to Lin

  • Rick Johnson

    Bogonovich from Cury range.

  • Vincent

    lol lets stop haha 5 turnovers isnt anones fault but lins

  • HVJoy

    he made up with a long 3 from mid-court!

  • GoJLin!

    2Q, (05:02) – BKN – Lin Turnover : Bad Pass (5 TO) 🙁

  • cdblue10

    6 pts 5 to not bad

  • Rick James

    ugh…thats awful lol

  • KL

    5 TOs but 10 point lead. The power of Jeremy Lin.

  • HVJoy

    big lead! 2Q 3:15 50-41 Nets

  • psalm234

    Lin 5th assist to Bog’s 3 from way downtown

  • cdblue10

    Fishing foul from Lin another FT’s

  • zxcvb

    Motion offense causing messy TOs, but Lin smacking the Knicks around!

  • Win

    It’s ok, the TO is really because of they haven’t play together in a game a lot. It will be better when the season goes on.

  • cdblue10

    8pts

  • Rick James

    lool, awful jump by lin there on melo!

  • cdblue10

    Nice lay up by RHJ

  • LinMadd

    man my feed is lagging so hard

  • psalm234

    Lin’s vet move got him 2 more FTs!

  • Win

    He jumped forward, why complain as it was a foul!

  • cdblue10

    54-43 Nets

  • GoJLin!

    At least he got 5 Assist to cover the TO 🙂

  • Goodday

    jlin tipped off lopez rebound, lol

  • zxcvb

    Lin beasting despite a confused motion offense.

    I wanna see the 3, though. Make or miss, just shoot it!

  • Vincent

    i think lin just needs to get used to driving again

  • sport

    Lin and Lopez high five after that defensive play to keep Knicks from scoring! Now if only they can have more plays together as a 1-2 punch.

  • Goodday

    I feel Lin is a bit nervous playing as a Net against Knicks. Hope by 2nd half he will be more of himself

  • psalm234

    Lin 8pts/6asts/5tos/1stl and the best +/- at +12

    Nets up 11pts at 54-43
    2:29 remaining in Q2

  • stam

    I was just about to post that he might be a bit nervous… but the coach hasn’t pulled him out even with 5 TO

  • cshot

    lol even with those TOs?

  • zxcvb

    I don’t think so. His TOs aren’t forced. Just messy motion offense and a travel.

  • james brown

    i take it coz they are leading..he’s now turning his engine and aggressiveness comes with it!just like MDA had said, he doesn’t mind the TO if its because of his making a play!

  • AL

    also this one HD http://baltak.com/nba3.php

  • psalm234

    he giveth and he taketh lol

  • DX

    I think Lin is tied when vs. Knicks.

  • Rick James

    nets playing great defense though

  • cdblue10

    Another to for Lin,Melo lay up on the other side

  • psalm234

    great effort.. I’m so glad to see that
    will translate to Ws in the regular season

  • HVJoy

    Nets lead down to 4 (57-53) 2Q 33.0

  • cdblue10

    Lee for the buzzer beater

  • CJSHYY

    What’s wrong w Nets… no score anymore…

  • kauaiblue

    he is not looking too smooth out there…

  • HVJoy

    Lee’s 2 points cut the lead to 2
    end of 1Q 57-55 Nets

  • blueCypher

    LOL, knicks fans cheering

  • Goodday

    JLin is a bit tense, just loosen up he will be fine in the 2nd half

  • sport

    JLin definitely doesn’t want to lose to the Knicks that’s why he’s tense.

  • Vincent

    i havent seen look this jitter before

  • cdblue10

    His TO’s is coming from jump passes,he just needs to adjust in the 2nd half

  • Goodday

    or he’s just getting used to being the Man in the nba. by Opening Game he will be even more loose

  • stam

    Don’t know why he is, the coach made him the man and he’s allowed to play with 6 TO, he needs to relax and just play his game.

  • GoJLin!

    Better news: End of 2nd Q, 57-53 Nets Win

  • Alaingrvis

    Soon bad choices with the ball mostly after a double from what I’ve seen… i just came from school and saw the last 5 minutes

  • DX

    Watch this game like season starts already.

  • Goodday

    ya, totally how i feel. in the previous few games, he seems very relaxed, today he’s a bit butterflyry~ lol

  • psalm234

    Man, this is the only time I hope Lin won’t reach triple-double
    8pts/6asts/6tos at half-time

  • Goodday

    ya, both teams seem to play for real

  • Rick James

    relax, people have bad games. This is one of lins bad games. Nothing more nothing less…we all knew Lin would have the occasional stinker.

  • james brown

    its just the first half…JLIN can be jittery yet smooth when the time arises and needed by the team…with the score, NYK almost complete line up, i can see now that they are contending for more Wins!

    Just curious why Bog seems lazy on defense(no defense)

  • Rick James

    I wouldn’t mind it lol!

  • Vincent

    lin usually will make bad mistakes from tiem to time, but never nervous

  • Goodday

    lopez needs to say in the paint… i’m still not used to seeing 7-footers beyond the arc…

  • sport

    Melo vs Lin rivalvy and Knicks vs Nets rivalry.

  • HVJoy

    Funny though – Nets shoots better than Knicks stat-wise (56% – 47% FG%)

  • cshot

    b jennings is like that 13 year old at your rec that thinks hes the sht. gaaaa idk why he annoys me so much haha

  • sport

    3 pointers are important now so Lopez being able to hit 3s is crucial.

  • james brown

    i’ll take it if they win!

  • HVJoy

    check the box score again – 57-55
    (my mistake – should’ve been 1st half, not 1Q)

  • Rick James

    I remember same thing happened to Lin last preseason with the hornets. He was playing amazing in preseason for the first few games, and near the end he kind of got nervous and his game went down the toilet for a while. Hopefully he adjusts much faster this time around

  • psalm234

    “Jeremy Lin cuts right down the middle of the paint for two.
    #Nets #JeremyLin”
    https://twitter.com/EliteSportsNY/status/789257444136394752

  • zxcvb

    Except he’s having a good game. Only thing is preseason TOs in a motion offense. Every other area is great.

  • cdblue10

    Lin’s speed and aggressiveness keep Knicks on their feet

  • psalm234

    Lin’s assist to Bojan deep 3 from way downtown
    https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/789263673856524288

  • kauaiblue

    not bad other than tos…

  • james brown

    defense is already on him….NYK wants to stop jeremy at all cost.

  • Goodday

    it’s after this layup, the whole Knicks team start to take away Lin’s layups in the paint

  • Rick James

    sigh…some times people need to take off their LIN glasses. This is definitely not one of lins better games. Its only half time and he has already gotten 3 times the number of turnovers he normally makes.

  • zxcvb

    Motion offense still looks weak and messy. Lin needs to take a lot more shots instead of (over)passing to teammates who aren’t there or can’t make shots.

  • Goodday

    i cheered out loud after it went in, lol

  • Vincent

    the spacing needs to be better for lin to drive. when lin played under mda he got to the rim at will

  • TVN

    Not too worried since it’s preseason. The thing with turnovers is while you like seeing Lin be aggressive, the unforced ones need to be limited. The Nets have 7 fewer shot attempts than the Knicks. They outplayed them by a lot, but are only up 2.

  • zxcvb

    Who cares? Harden and Curry and Wall make TOs, no one cares.

    They’re winning the game with Lin scoring 8p on 4 FGA and 6 dimes.

  • james brown

    that should bog must do, set himself up and stop trying to create! and more DEFENSE!

  • Vincent

    yes, but he can’t just keep recklessly drive to the paint

  • Rick James

    true enough, if Lin can score 32ppg, I will forgive his TO’s.

  • Steppen03

    He’s NOT going to have any more bad games – Tis NOT Hou, LA, Char. Will have a so-so quarter but not a so-so game. He will find his “touch” in 30+ min.

  • zxcvb

    Only 1 or 2 are forced. The rest are miscommunication and a travel. Yawn. Even fans kill Lin for TOs while every other in the player in the NBA can make 8-10 TOs and it doesn’t matter if they win.

  • Rick James

    ummm…let me ask you something. Do you consider Lin as a human? Or do you consider him to be some kind of perfect being?

  • zxcvb

    Scoreboard.

  • james brown

    no, its just that we are giving him long leash because he deserves NOT to be blame for creating plays for the team!

  • HVJoy

    It’s alright – Lin is a starter, the Star starter. 🙂
    We don’t have to worry that he would be benched.

  • kauaiblue

    anyone see any lin jerseys out there?

  • zxcvb

    No! He should be selfish and take 20 shots in a preseason game!

  • Goodday

    anyone at Barklay centre right now????

  • Rick James

    nobody is blaming Lin. Like I said, he is human and he will have his good games and his bad games just like any other player in the league. He will bounce back in the 2nd half, or if not, then in the regular season.

  • psalm234

    “HALFTIME: #Nets with the 57-55 lead over the #Knicks after two.”
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/789265809755570181

  • blueCypher

    The Celtics are gonna treat Lin like he was Steph Curry opening night

  • Vincent

    the nets need to contain noah, melo and lee

  • zxcvb

    He’s trying to set guys up.

  • james brown

    i see him as a human being thats why i see also the errors and his mistakes and not make it as a hindrance for him to reach his goal every game!

  • Alaingrvis

    motion offense will take some time to get used to. Also chemistry is off. Player not used to other players. Growing pains ….Growing pains

  • Goodday

    no, just let Melo play 1-on-1. they need to keep Noah and Prozinka off the boards

  • james brown

    obviously at this time.

  • psalm234

    Brad Stevens knows the Celtics needs to stop Lin.
    Hope the motion offense will help to confuse them

  • GoJLin!

    Strange, ye, at Play by Play, 00:28.3 NYK – Baker Pullup Jump shot: Made (2 PTS); 51-57, then at 00:00.8, NYK – Lee Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS), 53-57, then End of 2nd Quarter; the total score board stay 53 to 57 up to just now to change to 55 to 57. But the detail step by step still stay the same 🙁 sorry, too confuse!

  • Vincent

    mmaybe if kenny had used his real lineups in the beginning we wouldnt have that problem lol

  • spiderman

    a definite double standard.
    tiger-fans

  • Goodday

    2nd half starting!

  • Goodday

    GO LIN!

  • Steppen03

    Bull crap!
    Even great players have those…. Stop bringing up last season’s stuffs.

  • Rick James

    I see him the same way. On days that he isn’t playing so well, it will be up to his team mates to step up and support him from behind.

  • MKL

    Yeah, the player movement looked off. Lin is looking for cutters and players are not moving. Lin is better off looking to shoot instead of forcing into defenders.

  • cdblue10

    3333

  • Rick James

    sweet!! go LIN!!

  • Goodday

    Nets are playing for real now, Lopez posting up twice.

  • Win

    Randy is too slow… Why can Lee join the Nets.

  • zxcvb

    Jittery game by Lin. That 3 should have been a 4, but his TOs cost him 1pt.

  • Chipdip

    Lin 3!

  • psalm234

    it’s too bad Lee joins the Knicks.
    He’s a good player

  • blueCypher

    Celtics have a lot of back court guys that can D up,

  • Briiick

    Lin Lin Lin

  • HVJoy

    3Q 9:23 60-60

  • Rick James

    he got paid, I don’t blame him.

  • kauaiblue

    is brooklin gonna be thing?

  • Steppen03

    He’s human that’s why there’ll be TOs and low scoring – but in course of an entire game he will get his 18-28pt depending … Just like any all-stars, superstars …. I don’t see the errors. That’s normal.

  • cdblue10

    Lopez is too slow for Noah and keep forcing his shots

  • blueCypher

    Some of Lopez’ moves are awkward as h*** …

  • Goodday

    Noah is a pretty good post defender

  • HVJoy

    3Q 8:37 64-63 Nets

  • Win

    Lopez playing style is just very very awkward…..

  • cdblue10

    Lin to foye for 3

  • HVJoy

    3Q 7:48 67-65 Nets

  • kauaiblue

    is brook lopez good?

  • kauaiblue

    who made the assist when hamilton went in for dunk?

  • Goodday

    man, strange as it sounds, but i am liking this team already man. power of JLIN!

  • Briiick

    Lin assisted.

  • kauaiblue

    that’s the spirit!

  • cdblue10

    Lin always throw those kind of passes

  • blueCypher

    I assume it was Lin, it wasnt shown on tv

  • HVJoy

    He is hurting us! 🙁

  • zxcvb

    Motion offense just doesn’t work with this crew.

    Whenever Lin is in charge, they beat whoever they’re facing, Celtics or Knicks. When they go with the motion offense, Lin gets stats but they don’t win.

  • psalm234

    Lin’s 8th assist to Foye 3
    67-65

  • Spyckie

    He’s always been awkward. Dominant but awkward. Noah is playing him strong – Lopez might be rusty because he hasn’t had real competition in a long time.

  • zxcvb

    Lin. The “jittery” guy having a “bad game.”

  • Goodday

    i feel such a connection with the Nets already, and the season is not yet starting!!!

  • GoJLin!

    3Q, 7:48 BKN – Foye 3pt Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Lin (8 AST) ; JLIN near double/double

  • heart

    So cute the little girl dancing w/ Lin’s #7 jersey!

  • james brown

    maybe thats why Foye is is in starting position and bogs NOT!,,foye doesn’t force but wait and is not hungry to score unlike bogs who always wants to prove he can shoot with no defense!

  • psalm234

    he has good arsenal of offensive moves
    but he’s still not used to this motion offense.

    Post-up offense is what he’s comfortable now, and pick-and-pop with JLin

  • sport

    I agree because Motion offense takes the ball out of Lin’s hands and it also doesn’t utilize Lopez properly he’s been a non factor when he should be 2nd option after Lin!

  • james brown

    LOL!!!

  • Rick James

    if lin gets 4 more TO’s and 2 more assists he can get the triple double

  • Win

    Yeah, I follow him a little bit when Yi was with the Nets. But it seem he still plays the same after so many years…..

  • zxcvb

    It would work with a deeper roster, but Nets don’t have that. Almost no progress with the motion offense this preseason. Can’t even crush the Knicks with it.

  • cdblue10

    Lopez is keep bricking his shots

  • cdblue10

    Nice post up play by Scola

  • Chipdip

    CEntre, please go inside!!!

  • zxcvb

    Brook still rusty. Fast pace is just not his style.

  • stam

    Brook missed at point blank range man… missed assist for lin

  • psalm234

    weird, usually he makes that

    almost Lin’s 9th assist

  • cdblue10

    He needs to clean those gimmes

  • Spyckie

    Agreed. He is not playing comfortable out there.

  • stam

    7 TOs for lin…

  • Vincent

    that wasnt a travel

  • GoJLin!

    okay, he got 8 Assist to cover it 🙂

  • Rick James

    only 3 more!

  • cdblue10

    Geez Lin don’t show those beautiful passes

  • Spyckie

    yeah it’s not a problem for them… yet

  • psalm234

    Beautiful feed by Lin to Scola to Harris

  • stam

    Yo these refs man.. they are so biased against lin.

  • james brown

    no one on NETS are Rolling during the initial plays..all wants to shoot 3?????

  • Briiick

    linsanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rick James

    vasquez is playing amazing.

  • Epie

    what happened lol

  • Win

    What a pass!!!!!

  • Spyckie

    he is playing much better than the rest of preseason.

  • sws94

    Great pass. Yes.

  • cdblue10

    Lin almost played the whole 3 Q,he played good this time in spite of the to

  • kauaiblue

    whats up with lopez?

  • HVJoy

    Lin out 3Q 3:35 (75-72 Nets)

  • blueCypher

    I need a video of that bounce pass

  • psalm234

    “Surgical precision pass by Lin!” Clyde

    What a beautiful full-court bounce pass by Lin to Bojan for an easy layup”

  • Briiick

    Lin takes a break finally.

  • stam

    how is that a foul… i saw Bog put his hands up…

  • Alaingrvis

    idk haven’t been on all preseason but also hasn’t played much. maybe rust

  • Spyckie

    Trying too much. Lopez is a rhythm player, not playing in rhythm.

  • zxcvb

    One dime short of a double-double! He was in passing mode these past 3 games, but that motion offense isn’t working.

    Aggressive, shoot-first Lin is the best option for this team. Kenny gave his teammates a chance, but it didn’t work.

  • Briiick

    Lin enabled a 5-point run.

  • kauaiblue

    hope KA finds a way to make this team a running one… that’s makes jlin exciting…

  • CaliUSMC

    wait why does lin have 7toS!?

  • cshot

    Most impressive net other than Lin: JOE HARRIS!!! love the guy

  • cdblue10

    He traveled

  • zxcvb

    Preseason overpassing in a sloppy motion offense. And 2 travels!

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin is over passing and not shooting enough. Still need to find a nice mix.

  • GoJLin!

    Not bad, 23 min, 11Pts (3/5, 1/1, 4/5); 9 Ast, 2 Stl with +4; Wish he get double/double and Nets WIN this game!

  • stam

    2 travels, 1 was a no call when he was wacked

  • Rick James

    8 TO

  • Vincent

    lin is mr. 4th quarter 🙂 he will score when needed

  • cdblue10

    He will get 3ple double and a win…lol

  • stam

    lol you predicting another one?

  • sport

    Some great assists by Lin but not his best offensive game, definitely tense. Still not enough Lin and Lopez plays. It doesn’t feel like coach is going to play Lopez much, not enough plays for him. You have a 7 footer yet you’re not using him probably in the paint so frustrating.

  • Alaingrvis

    Yea thats a major flaw. Growing pains though

  • zxcvb

    He got one sitting on the bench? Whoa!

  • Rick James

    I want 10 TO, so he get triple double

  • Alaingrvis

    Not much of a prediction lol

  • Rick James

    no…just a bad game lol

  • stam

    LOL

  • sws94

    The Nets have 3 point shooters. The don’t have PnR players.

  • zxcvb

    Not tense, just overpassing. Probably because it’s preseason and they REALLY want to make that motion offense work. It’s not working because no one but Lin can score reliably. Harris and Vazquez look good tonight, though.

  • grover chang

    I recall in Houston, Lin had a higher winning percentage as his TOs were higher.

  • Vincent

    im worried about lopez not playing much

  • sws94

    Yup, that’s the black mark on this game. Well, let him get them out of his system in preseason.

  • Rick James

    good point. 3 point shooters are born, but PnR players can be trained in my opinion

  • cdblue10

    He’s not in regular season form yet

  • Spyckie

    Motion offense is working with:
    Hamilton – finds spots
    Harris – strong cuts
    Foye – good extra passes
    Booker – PnR

    Bog – long range 3s

    Vasquez – looks faster

    Not working with:
    Lopez, Bog, Skil

  • Chipdip

    Is Lopez not well? He did not play too much in the preseason games

  • sport

    Same here! What’s going on?! Lopez is a great post player and there’s no plays for him! Not enough PnR with Lin either! Not even Pick and Pop!

  • kauaiblue

    bennett is terrible!

  • blueCypher

    Jennings is WAY too show-boaty.

  • stam

    I think bennet was hacked that time.

  • Vincent

    damn i want to win this game!

  • Spyckie

    Hamilton.. as much as I love his offense, he is not a good rebounder…

  • zxcvb

    Agree. Even without making shots, Foye “gets it.”Lopez and Bogs…not so much.

  • kauaiblue

    wow, this second team loses it quick…

  • cdblue10

    Our bigs are soft as charmin

  • Win

    Can’t box out, can’t rebound.

  • 7iger

    Some of Knicks starters still in

  • kauaiblue

    looks like both teams are trying to win this… hope brook and lin come in to save the day…

  • Vincent

    courtney lee has killed them all night

  • blueCypher

    The bench gives me no hope. They will either lose the lead or put us in a deeper hole !

  • kauaiblue

    anthony is playing lots of minutes…

  • sport

    Nets bench is just bad no one stands out as the leader when Scola’s not playing.

  • Win

    O’Quinn is killing us with his offensive rebound.

  • stam

    I’m afraid that i may need to prepare myself for a poor season. Lin needs to shoot a bit more. 5 shots in 24 mins of play is pretty bad.

  • Vincent

    imagine the score without lin lol

  • kauaiblue

    they need to stop shooting 3s…

  • cdblue10

    This 2nd unit is building a palace with their bricks

  • Vincent

    he has 11 and 9 im fine with that he wil lscore when needed

  • blueCypher

    lol, indeed they are

  • kauaiblue

    terrible rebounding…

  • Spyckie

    We need Brook or Booker on the court at all times for rebounding… Hamilton is 0 for 4 on defensive rebounds which is just unexcusable. The amount of second chance points is embarrassing.

  • Michael

    He fit’s the Knicks.

  • james brown

    so much in love with the 3!!!

  • zxcvb

    Normal in preseason. Lin will be shooting a lot more in real games.

  • Rick James

    the Lin/Vasquez combo seems like a good lineup. KA needs to keep experimenting.

  • Win

    Omg Hamilton is super soft!!!!!!!!!

  • stam

    LOL

  • sport

    Knicks extending their lead with the Nets bench. Lin better come out looking to score!

  • Spyckie

    has been all preseason

  • cdblue10

    Knicks are taking this game too seriously

  • HVJoy

    13-0 run by Knicks before end of 3Q 🙁
    87-78 Knicks

  • Vincent

    lol i remember when lin had 18 points 11 dimes against timberwolves and byron benched lin for 1 turnover lol so thankful those days are over!

  • blueCypher

    KA , needs to put Foye in the 2nd unit , or something. Vasquez is not ready

  • stam

    why isn’t that a foul? why does oquinn get to hammer kilpatrick like that? did the time expire?

  • sport

    It’s the Lin vs Melo affect.

  • Michael

    The Ref’s expired.

  • Rick James

    no need to state the obvious, everyone already knows this as a common sense by now. The issue is figuring out a way to plug the hole.

  • sport

    It was a flagrant but ref’s probably think “time expired” whatever.

  • kauaiblue

    are there any jlin jerseys out there?

  • Rick James

    time expired / pre season

  • GoJLin!

    Their starter still in vs Nets bench; NYK starters (CA, KP, JN, Lee, Vuj) play 29, 21, 20, 28, 14 minutes; our starts only play 17, 16, 13, 13, & 23 minutes.

  • cdblue10

    Lin took it to Melo 2x although he traveled on the 1st ISO but he reclaimed it to the line for the 2nd try .I think he’s also taking this personally

  • stam

    Brook played only 14 mins.. what the heck is going on?

  • Rick James

    lol yeah. They don’t want to lose to the nets, it would look bad for NYC.

  • Turing

    Not as long as this coach has a ard on for the motion offense. smh

  • 7iger

    So it is ok to hurt someone?

  • sport

    Lin still not back in?!

  • Vincent

    damn are the nets gonna put lin back in

  • Rick James

    it looks bad but it wasn’t a big deal. Most contact in nba is usually soft…its not like NFL.

  • HVJoy

    you are right.

  • sport

    Ask the coach! I Hate this too! KA doesn’t know how to use Lopez properly! Lin should say something.

  • Briiick

    I like the idea that Knicks win all the preseason games and Nets even out the result against Knicks by the end of the season.

  • zxcvb

    Lin still resting…done for the night? He showed everything he needed to this preseason.

    Drives, 3s, passes, defense, clutch plays, unselfish floor leadership.

  • Rick James

    pre season, give lin some rest and put him back in with 6-7 mins left depending on the score

  • kauaiblue

    getting blown out by the knicks?

  • 7iger

    Easy for u to say

  • kauaiblue

    this offense sucks…

  • sport

    Where are the starters?!

  • Vincent

    no lin no win

  • Alaingrvis

    Nets spacing is not good as well

  • Spyckie

    I haven’t seen a single net besides Lin score through contact.

  • Vincent

    wide open bricks

  • Vincent

    at least let lopeez play a bit more

  • blueCypher

    Oh man, Lin gonna have to play really heavy minutes

  • Rick James

    if this was regular season, id probably be making as big a deal of this as you. Id be calling for pitchforks against Quinn.

  • sport

    He’s not even playing right now, not sure what coach is thinking. Does he want to lose this game?

  • Vincent

    omg seriously we really need to stop shooting so many threes we are not golden state or san antonio

  • stam

    Build a tower with the bricks.

  • Rick James

    building the empire state building

  • Spyckie

    open threes are not the problem – it’s the lack of inside finishing ability that is.

  • sws94

    Team looks terrible now. This bench doesn’t look promising.

  • Epie

    Man.. Lin can easily turn this game around, what’s up with this ND. Always negative.

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/789276435320082434

  • grover chang

    If KA can’t figure out how to use a talent like Lopez then that is a coaching mistake. He is new to being a head coach. I hope he is more flexible and learns how to use Lopez. Nets need his production.

  • Vincent

    lmao

  • psalm234

    Both lineups are quite cringe-worthy
    so many TOs

  • Alaingrvis

    Not starters are in, for both teams

  • Michael

    Them 3’s aren’t falling but let’s face it, can any of them create a better shot?

  • Vincent

    lin will play 48 minutes a night lol

  • james brown

    he’s up on the air..so in turn he’s more at risk than the one below…let go because its outside of game time

  • sport

    Nets needs a 6th man badly, no one is leading the 2nd unit. If only they could get someone like Nick Young but on this team he’d be a starter.

  • psalm234

    This bench came alive in the 1st hafl when Coach KA inserted Foye as the penetrator

    Wonder why he doesn’t do the same in the 2nd half

  • Turing

    Coach just wants motion offense…forget about the team/players. smh

  • MKL

    Nets bench is sucking away my will to live. They are that bad.

  • Vincent

    i thought bog would have filled that role but i guess not

  • Rick James

    LOL!! Netsdaily is awesome

  • Vincent

    ka should just put lin back in now

  • blueCypher

    Need foye in that 2nd unit. Vasquez does not work.

  • sport

    From what I’ve seen tonight, no way, not with those forced shots.

  • cshot

    think starters are done?

  • Spyckie

    Foye has enough speed to guard the speedy guys.

  • Vincent

    appears to be so.. if it gets past 6 min mark they are done forsure

  • Epie

    OK, I kinda agree now lol

  • sport

    Lin, Foye, Scola can all take turn leading 2nd unit. So far coach haven’t allowed Lin to lead 2nd unit not sure why.

  • Rick James

    what the heck!! I want lin to get at least double double tonight…what is KA thinking??

  • kauaiblue

    lopez in and no jlin? what is ka thinking?

  • psalm234

    When motion-offense induces motion-sickness 🙁

    The bench needs to play better

  • zxcvb

    When Lin is in, they compete or beat every team they’ve faced.
    When Lin is out, they get crushed by every team.

    The motion offense experiment failed. They gave it every chance, but only Lin seems comfortable with it. The team looks great just playing simple PnR, run-the-floor offense. Time to wave the white flag for now, Kenny.

  • MKL

    Kenny is frustrating with his development attitude. Nets are getting punked.

  • stam

    lol it runs way better with Lin making the plays…

  • Rick James

    lopez in

  • Spyckie

    chill please. It’s still preseason

  • Rick James

    lol!

  • Vincent

    come on put lin in

  • guest

    Lin

  • Spyckie

    Scola Lopez – horns?

  • sport

    Totally agree! this motion offense is horrible!!

  • Turing

    Not..obviously
    I seriously hav mt doubts abot ka.

  • Michael

    Scola is like Parsons lol never takes the first shot, always has to do the fake.

  • MKL

    Scola with 15 dribbles is not MOTION OFFENSE. DO NOT WANT!

  • Rick James

    scola moving 2.5 km/ hr full speed

  • Vincent

    liN! in

  • Vincent

    lin for the win

  • guest

    No Motion Offense! Lin for the Win!

  • cdblue10

    And 1 by Lin

  • HVJoy

    4Q 6:45

  • Turing

    Times awastn to continu the rediculos experiment that hasnt workd…ever.

  • zxcvb

    Another and-1 for Lin.

  • Vincent

    nice hockey assist

  • guest

    Lin led, cuts lead to 6 in 1 minute of play.

  • sport

    Lin and 1 woohoo!!!

  • grover chang

    Sign Steve Blake. He is available. The bench needs a pg for direction.

  • psalm234

    Great penetration by Lin to break down D, followed by kickout leading to Bog wide-open 3

  • cdblue10

    2ft’s for Lin

  • Epie

    Well NO PF for Lin tonight. That’s good.

  • zxcvb

    I hope this is all Kenny trying to show Lin’s teammates that he’s THE MAN on this team.

  • cdblue10

    96-92

  • Michael

    My Lin is still shooting free throws….

  • zxcvb

    Noticed that…almost no fouls this preseason. Just last game and that was almost “on purpose.”

  • sport

    Come on Lin make these FTs!

  • grover chang

    No. Lin naturally has shown he is the man on every team he has played for.

  • cdblue10

    Another 2ft’s for Lin

  • cshot

    lit patching up the wound as soon as hes in

  • zxcvb

    No way! No one wanted to let him shine more than once a week or so.

  • cdblue10

    Make just 1 ft

  • Rick James

    lol lin so damn good makes the team look totally different as soon as he checks in.

  • psalm234

    Lin’s one Mean-Driving-FT-Machine

    5 FTs in 43 seconds

  • cdblue10

    Crazy

  • HVJoy

    missed 1st ft 🙁

  • Spyckie

    TOTALLY!

    Ok back to being calm.

  • Briiick

    Lin is turning the tide again !

  • HVJoy

    you can say that again!

  • Alaingrvis

    4-6 17 points out of 6 shots lol how does that work

  • Spyckie

    that’s Lin’s game 🙂

  • Vincent

    come on line lets make a 3 and get one more assist… then get 3 more turn overs

  • Goodday

    JLIN is amazing. Mr. 4th Quarter!

  • Epie

    Hmmm.. Lin should try that Lady’s hair..

  • Rick James

    LOL! I agree with the TO’s, as long as he still wins the game..

  • cdblue10

    I hope RHJ will turn up like Derozan lite at least

  • sport

    Lopez contributing on defense even without many plays called for him! Lopez and Lin can totally be the Timmy and Parker on this team but KA needs to throw away the Motion Offense! We are not GSW! Bench threw so many bricks it was just torturing watching them!

  • Vincent

    maybe they can get big enuf lead that it will be garbage time to’s lol

  • 7iger

    This team is totally different when Lin is in

  • stam

    We can’t have lin playing 40 mins… sigh we need a better bench

  • cdblue10

    8 to’s for Lin

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin forced it there

  • Vincent

    yess having lopez shoot 3s is infuriating

  • kauaiblue

    he should have taken a short jumper…

  • Vincent

    he will make some, but he needs to be inside

  • Rick James

    good good! only 2 more

  • Spyckie

    I honestly think the weak link was Bennett tonight. It was 4v5 with him on the court.

    I don’t think his career is over though. Personally I was really shy when I was 23, took me until 25-26 before I found my desire to compete.

  • Vincent

    omg lin…

  • Turing

    Agree…Agree…

  • HVJoy

    It’s OK if Net wins!

  • cdblue10

    Another and 1

  • zxcvb

    Gonna see a lot of those!

  • Rick James

    well, knicks are pulling away

  • cdblue10

    Assist to Lopez and 1

  • sport

    Another and 1 for lin! He totally wants the win!

  • Alaingrvis

    Brook—-Linnn

  • Chipdip

    Lin needs some good players to play as teammates

  • guest

    Lin said, “Enough, I’m taking over!”

  • cdblue10

    102-98

  • zxcvb

    20/10 in 26m…”fans” still complaining about TOs, lol.

  • CaliUSMC

    Umm I stopped watching at the end of 3rd.. Now he has 20? O_O

  • psalm234

    Lin with the last 9 pts for the Nets
    96-102

  • sport

    LOL Lopez with the and ! Lin and Lopez 1 2 punch!!

  • Alaingrvis

    RHJ can be reckless

  • psalm234

    he likes his FTs very much lol

  • guest

    That is why nobody else should be taking the ball up!

  • kauaiblue

    just give it to jlin to decide what to do… rhj reversed the momentum…

  • mara

    Both teams taking this game seriously, Brooklyn needs to win this though!

  • cdblue10

    Lin is tripled team now yet fouled again

  • blueCypher

    Ok, take the starters out now lol

  • zxcvb

    Missed FT! That’s my only complaint about Lin this game and preseason. Come on, man.

  • Alaingrvis

    Lead is just too much to overcome

  • Alaingrvis

    8 TOV

  • Rick James

    yeah, the defense and the stupid decisions are hurting the team

  • stam

    he did it on purpose to try to give it to his teamate for the score

  • Spyckie

    Brook take it to your man!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Nets need to play some better defense. Can’t just keep trading baskets.

  • cdblue10

    Marks get your connection with Spurs and grab Aldridge

  • zxcvb

    21/10, bro. Go complain about Harden’s 8 TOs the other night.

  • cdblue10

    Lin for 333333

  • Rick Johnson

    WOOOO 3!!!!

  • Spyckie

    Wow. Lin has taken like 80% of the shots this quarter.

  • Epie

    YAY

  • mara

    Lin is vying for All Star!!

  • psalm234

    Lin 333333!!!

  • Alaingrvis

    lol

  • Rick James

    Lin is a ONE MAN TEAM!! LOL @nets!!

  • kauaiblue

    KA needs to just give jlin total control… he will win…

  • HVJoy

    24 pts, 10 asts!

  • Alaingrvis

    lol true true.

  • sport

    Finally Lin with the 3!

  • zxcvb

    Fearless with the jumper!

  • Goodday

    man, LIN wants this game. I bet coach kenny wants this one too

  • blueCypher

    Is KA just not showing his hand – that is, to let Lin go wild

  • guest

    All they have to do is have all his teammates set picks off the ball and let Lin do the rest. Forget about passing the ball! haha

  • Michael

    No no no lets’ all focus on the missed free throws and turnovers shall we? lol

  • mara

    Wow, double-double, woot!

  • cdblue10

    I hope they’ll get Aldridge…Trade Lopez and someone else I’m good with that

  • Vincent

    lin doesnt even look happy about that 3 lol hes like god damn my team sucks

  • Alaingrvis

    A lot more PNr and the offense looks much better. IDK about the motion offense its just not smooth for this team. Maybe best to mix the PNr in with it to ease Lin and Brook into it

  • stam

    “Get the f out the way!”

  • aggressiveplayer

    He definitely looks like he doesn’t want to lose AT ALL

  • sport

    Glad Lin didn’t hesitate even though he missed the previous 3 pointer.

  • HVJoy

    wish his teammates would share the scoring load.

  • psalm234

    Coach KA wants his team to learn to overcome a big lead

    Let’s go, Nets! Linning time!!!

  • Rick James

    think of it this way…if lin had 5 TOs instead of 10, nets would have a comfortable lead right now

  • zxcvb

    24/10 in 27 minutes…Linsane.

  • stam

    Give lin some screens and see how he will kill it

  • Rick James

    umm team or Lin?? Man, this is so bad

  • Vintage

    Lin’s leading by example. Everyone’s gotta start raising their effort level.

  • sport

    Comes on we know Lin hasn’t been playing his best offense this game! He’s his harshest critique. Also the bench is horrible. Lopez also not utilized properly. Motion game forced on the team when it doesn’t work!

  • psalm234

    His team is 80% Lin .. so yeah lol

  • HVJoy

    What turnover? Lol
    Hope Nets wins, then all TO’s are forgiven/forgotten

  • zxcvb

    Come on, Brook.

  • stam

    hope lin didn’t get hurt.

  • blueCypher

    Can they take out the starters now

  • zxcvb

    Damn…hope that didn’t hurt him.

  • Rick James

    yeah…knicks don’t even care, none of their starters are playing.

  • aggressiveplayer

    PLEASE LIN DONT BE HURT

  • Rick Johnson

    Nets need better defense to actually win games.

  • Rick James

    RHJ!! Im expecting great things from him!

  • Goodday

    how come booker is not playing.

  • stam

    yeah agreed.

  • zxcvb

    Staying out there…looks okay.

  • sport

    I hope Lin’s knee isn’t hurt 🙁

  • Goodday

    yea.. was scared for LIN

  • blueCypher

    Do not get hurt Lin , this game is meaningless.

  • sport

    All players want to “stay out there”. They better give him some scans to make sure he’s fine.

  • psalm234

    The Nets defense is still not good enough to overcome a big lead.
    Offensive possessions are also not well-executed yet

  • JoeTeam

    Foye jacks a 3 when Lin is wide open on the wing.

  • Rick James

    this team is different by hornets in one big way. Their defense is awful. Defense leads to offense, unfortunately nets are horrible on defense. Hornets are completely different level on the defensive end compared to the nets.

  • stam

    He’s got strength, speed, and heart but he needs to improve his ability to finish

  • zxcvb

    Would have checked him out after the 3.

  • zxcvb

    Not in preseason. Guys usually check out if there’s even a minor issue.

  • Rick James

    his defense has potential. Long athletic and good instincts.

  • sport

    Big improvement from the forced shots we’ve seen previously. He’s got the heart to win and succeed for sure.

  • zxcvb

    Lin out. Hope it’s just because it’s preseason and not because of the knee.

  • Spyckie

    Probably both.

  • Rick James

    JH!!

  • Epie

    Could be both

  • Alaingrvis

    All the starters was taken out. Smart move

  • stam

    sorry wrong number

  • blueCypher

    Yup

  • sport

    Why did KA pull the starters?! They could’ve won this?!

  • Vincent

    wow lol why the heck did he drive

  • Spyckie

    Not worth the injury and preseason.

  • HVJoy

    Lin played 29 min for this game, the most of all Nets. 🙁

  • sport

    Worried about Lin hope he’s fine. 🙁

  • guest

    Rookie mistake. He’ll get better.

  • joy

    What’s wrong with his knee?

  • stam

    Definetly not worth it but we got to see Lin’s fire and his ability to change the tide of the game as he has in the past.

  • Michael

    I’m just kidding, plus very few led directly to fastbreak points.

  • golfhacker

    That is what you call efficient!

  • Vincent

    i think he is ok it didnt look that bad tbh

  • sport

    Missed that play what happened?

  • Goodday

    good game

  • Vincent

    i didnt see the play either, but he wasnt limping that badly

  • Goodday

    hope LIN is fine. it’s probably just a knee-to-knee bump.

  • stam

    Lin has 2.67 points per shot this game.

  • 7iger

    Don’t think they want to play overtime for a preseason game

  • Vincent

    the nets could really use a chandler parsons or trevor ariza type player

  • sport

    Good, just heard the announcer said something about his knee and I got worried.

  • tee

    did someone say that? haha

  • Goodday

    you have that in RHJ

  • zxcvb

    He looks fine, but anything with the knees always make me jump.

  • Vincent

    not really rhj cant score like they can

  • sport

    Lin’s finally got to lead his own team. Don’t want him to get injured right now.

  • Vincent

    ariza can shoot the 3 at a high percentage

  • james brown

    all they want was an easy basket of 3, so jlin showed then 2’s were good too if you try a little more…bench has no will to defend and not scrambling for lose balls..maybe they know they will not be cut?LOL!

  • Michael

    He’s a better dancer though..

  • JoeTeam

    I just watched the last 7 mins … this team doesn’t look like it can hold a fun, and I wonder how it will do against good teams … glad to see lin in the 20s and double double ! Too bad about the TOVs, anyone see the whole game and can share about those?

  • heart

    Another bad 3Q subbing, letting momentum turned in favor of opponents!

  • Dan Ang

    Should have kicked out to Harris. He was hot. Anyways, rookie got that mistake out the way. Won’t happen again.

  • HVJoy

    Nets did not get a W over Knicks… we will hear about Lin’s TO’s from NY sports media.

  • MEL LIN

    totally agree. If the plan was to win. Let your starters have time to make it happen.

  • james brown

    i saw some on that of Beech, but unfortunately, he was not given much chance..anyway..

  • zxcvb

    24/10 in 30m! Harden made 7 and 8 TOs this preseason…not a peep about that.

  • james brown

    and i think much efficient with little or less efforts

  • sport

    1. Starters were subbed in too late 2. Starters were taken out when they were trying to win the game towards the end.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Lin’s turnovers were not the sole reason of the loss. It was also the terrible performance by the bench.

  • MEL LIN

    yes it will be all over the news tomorrow. That’s ok… regular season will be different. But nets 2nd team is so bad. No rebound at all. They need to make some changes

  • MEL LIN

    I can see why Bennett is out of the NBA

  • blueCypher

    I am a little worried about that knee. I think he is okay he played through it.

  • LW

    Bright side of this embarrassing loss at home, Lin outscored Carmelo with the same minutes.

  • Dan Ang

    Hoping that’s every game, sans TOs

  • xeroid

    Need better chemistry, a couple of turnovers were drives where no foul was called, a couple the teammates didn’t move to anticipated position, need more familiarity with regular teammates and each others movements.

  • zxcvb

    Lin’s TOs were under control. He only made 2 the whole 2nd half because he was in “win mode.” First half was preseason motion-offense mode…sloppy force-feeding.

  • MEL LIN

    agree with 1. 2. they should be taken out it’s too far of a lead

  • Briiick

    and half of his FGAs.

  • Alaingrvis

    I blame the TOVs mostly in poor spacing and lack of chemistry. So i won’t bring it up again

  • zxcvb

    Notice how he only had 2 in the second half (and one was a dubious travel).

    Just trying to get guys involved early on, esp. since it’s preseason.

  • james brown

    Lin showed everybody that he can carry the team if he is needed, but lin also believes that it takes 5 man to win a game!

  • grover chang

    Praying his knee is okay and God give him a good, healthy season.

  • sws94

    Because he’s still not looking to win the game, just play the starters more. In a regular season games, the subbing should change. If it doesn’t, that’s a problem. For now, he’s in preseason form.

  • MEL LIN

    I agree totally. Coaches need to make some changes. If he is your star protect your star

  • HVJoy

    I agree, but Knicks mouthpiece-media will criticize/attack Lin on this.

  • sport

    Their bench is unwatchable with no leader. Don’t get why Lin and Lopez can’t take turns leading the bench. Lopez’ minutes are way too low. Does KA think he’s Tim Duncan?! He’s not that old.

  • rookie75094

    The hogden name is not worthy for comparison to JLin

  • CJSHYY

    I am not worry. He only got 2 TO in 2nd half.

  • Michael

    So you are “turning over” a new leaf?

  • heart

    Yep. Don’t want this bad 3Q be the trend for regular season. For 6 preseason games straight, this was the trend.

  • MEL LIN

    Jeremy really needs to work on his free throws. There’s a reason why it is free.

  • Chipdip

    TOs from preseason games are ok… not good but ok.

  • Alaingrvis

    Vasques idk i would cut him. -15 is terrible. Jenning would run pass him with ease. Id rather start a rookie. Or have Lin play with the bench or Lopez.

  • Alaingrvis

    exactly……..

  • james brown

    i think he and yogi will be cut..no sense in paying those player who can’t really give his best..yogi needs to be in the dleague to harness his bbiq!

  • sport

    His FTs haven’t been great for a while. Gotta get those FTs to 90%. Teams would rather foul him than let him get the layup. He needs to make them pay!

  • Dan Ang

    Lol.

  • kauaiblue

    what is this offense? im watching msg post game and the announcers were like things are coming around… nets look really messy out there… what is the deal with lopez?

  • Alaingrvis

    The offense is not meshing at all.

  • kauaiblue

    agreed. he is a liability.

  • MEL LIN

    I remember when he was a knick it was automatic

  • james brown

    foye needs to play with the bench and let harris do the SG starters (bog is a bit BALLHOG and too stubborn)..let vasquez be with foye or be the 3rd string guard.

  • kauaiblue

    looks really bad… like my ymca team… too many 3s!

  • james brown

    Bench..Lopez, seems not that interested yet???

  • Alaingrvis

    Coach will have to mix PNr and Post ups for Lopez assuming he gets going( He missed some easy shots), to help the offense out a bit. The nets look like a fish out of water.

  • Dan Ang

    Just let it all out! lol

  • sport

    They got worst after his new shooting form too. Yes they used to be automatic but they haven’t been for a long time.

  • kauaiblue

    yeah, whats his deal? is he going to be traded or something?

  • Michael

    Meaning it looks like the Knicks offense…

  • MEL LIN

    can we have someone with combination of booker and hamilton in one

  • kauaiblue

    ha, sorry but i am so excited and this team looks like crap except for our boy…

  • sport

    I hope Lin and Lopez talks to KA about it. Lopez needs to be featured as much as Lin. These are the “stars” of the team!

  • kauaiblue

    lol… losing to the knicks? oye

  • Alaingrvis

    Kilpatrick is absent on the bench. I don’t know whats wrong with him. I thought he was better then this. If he keeps getting out played by harris and Hamilton then he cant be the sixth man.

  • Briiick

    10 for 13 isn’t bad.

  • Dan Ang

    We will find out the real offense soon. Mr 4th quarter sat at the crucial moment, so it could have been a Lin Win.

  • james brown

    just need for Ham to be a little bit angrier and gritty esp during defense…

  • Alaingrvis

    Foye is purely a passer. It would help but who can score on their own. This is the issue with Kilpatrick. He is there to score and he is not doing it

  • Michael

    Wouldn’t his name become hook……no I will not be banned.

  • Steppen03

    Great game overall!
    The starters will play more in regular season to close out. Give Greivis couple regular games before I have Foye running the 2nd unit. Is there another backup pg out there for us to shop ? No just GV but Brook needs to step up. Where’s the tough backup center ?

  • MEL LIN

    I know. Last year he was great. Now he is playing like a rookie

  • james brown

    KA was looking for combination as harris is now given the chance to show what he can do..he can be a starter SG and place foye as bench PG for a while since vasquez expeiment isn’t working.

  • MEL LIN

    dirty mind

  • Michael

    Unacceptable…if he hit 23 out of 13 they’d win.

  • Alaingrvis

    what I’m saying i was like 12 ppg from him is a lock. 3 ppg is a question for him.

  • Alaingrvis
  • sport

    Booker should be the backup center but he wasn’t playing with the bench. KA’s lineup needs change. starters need to be mixed in with the bench cause they are horrible! Lin and Scola should help with 2nd unit!

  • Michael

    Why two?

  • Alaingrvis

    Seems about right 3 or more is a drag 1 is too little 2 is just perfect lol

  • MEL LIN

    this is first game brook and lin played together for a longer time. see all the miss communication between them. what do they think that the chemistry will happen overnight?

  • GoJLin!

    Yes, at least JLIN got 10 Assists to cover his 8 TO, look Melo got 3 Assist with 4 TO. They both play 29 minutes, JLIN got 24 Pts (6/9, 2/3, 10/13), but Melo got 21 Pts (8/18, 3/6, 2/2).

  • james brown

    scola’s game today were forced and no rhythm. hope its changes when regular games starts

  • CJSHYY
  • Michael

    Lol At least you have a reason behind your number.

  • sport

    Blame KA for barely playing Lopez and not allowing PnR between them for the entire pre-season!

  • MEL LIN

    hightlights please

  • james brown

    probably lost at where KA wants him to be? hope he and Kenny can worked things out regarding KA’s expectation on him…his passes to Jlin were all OFF????

  • Vincent

    its strange man the nets look way more in sync their first pre season game

  • stam

    NOt sure if full motion offense was in place then. but i’m not bball expert

  • james brown

    foye can be with Bog and Kill,hamillton and booker

  • GoJLin!

    I think last year they got 8 preseason games. 8 minus 6 equal to 2 🙂

  • MEL LIN

    totally agree. If that’s is your secret weapon wouldn’t you want to perfect it first before you try your 3 point schemes.

  • Alaingrvis

    it was a bit looserlol yea but this game seem more real. It felt like a real game. I notice lin was not driving hard.

  • highlights for Lin’s final preseason game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZXplSBRckk&feature=youtu.be

  • Vincent

    lin tried but was too jittery

  • Briiick

    KA worried a bit too much about other players.

  • Yura

    Wow, I was just looking for your highlights 🙂 right on time! Thanks

  • Alaingrvis

    Late was more PNr which worked a lot better.

  • HVJoy

    You have a good point there. Nets lost in the rebounding game.

    defense rebounds: Nets 30, Knicks 35
    offense rebounds: Nets 6, Knicks 11

  • joy

    Or perhaps KA is too optimistic about BrookLin’s chemistry.

  • Alaingrvis

    your right

  • Alaingrvis

    Were do we get post game interviews

  • HVJoy

    Tiger fan alert! Lol.

  • grover chang

    Amazing SpeedofLin. Thank you.

  • joy

    If that’s true, then that’s terrible mentality. They better correct them before it’s too late.

  • Briiick

    KA knows that Lin is the best guard for the BIG better than anyone else, so I am not worried.

  • Vincent

    yeah much much better lol

  • joy

    No worries. He knows that.

  • MEL LIN

    yeah thanks

  • Alaingrvis
  • Alaingrvis
  • norah mackenzie

    I think the nets played well – and this is a good start – the final score was very competitive and personally I am proud of the team – at least it wasn’t a loss of 20 points etc

  • Rick James

    they need 82 more games to be ready LOL

  • Alaingrvis

    I did notice last year Lin Was not asked to do much passing. Mostly to score. He is trying to pass first rather then just doing it

  • Rick James

    he has great passing ability..he showed alot of potential in flashes. Unfortunately his defense is just so damn bad its laughable.

  • guest

    If he wasn’t in two mode, the game wouldn’t have been close.

  • Alaingrvis
  • Turing

    Seriosly…they would hav lost bt a larger margin if he onlybpassd. Com on ka…ur a better coach than this…arent u?

  • grover chang

    LOL, true. In two mode out of necessity.

  • Rick James

    Harris might turn out to be a steal. He shot incredibly well! Hopefully he turns into the next steve novak.

  • heart

    What does he mean by “2 mode”??? Isn’t that good in this motion offense? KA should be thankful that Lin can still score w/ everyone has equal touches of the rock in this offense and not lots of pnr w/ his partner Lopez or drawn up plays for him or Lopez. The spacing and passing in this offense need adjustments. Don’t understand his statements…

  • Turing

    Not accordg to ka….smh.

  • Briiick

    KA didn’t care losing the preseason game.

  • Maknusia

    FT 10-13…is fine, right?

  • joy

    At this stage, Lin needs to stay on 2 mode otherwise they’ll be blown out in every game.

  • Rick James

    its too bad they don’t show the TO’s as well, I would love to see where he made the mistakes. I don’t want to watch the whole game either

  • norah mackenzie

    I am no basketball expert but they all seemed to gel a lot more –

  • joy

    But Lin cares I’m sure.

  • grover chang

    I’m sorry. Waiting to get better is unnecessary. You have Jeremy Lin. The Nets could win now if you go Lin-ball. We all know it. I know KA is a new coach and I’m being inpatient. But I and many of us know what Lin could do if you play to his strengths.

  • guest

    Right now, Lin is the only one making the motion offense even look functional. I’m not liking the direction Atkinson is going with this approach of using Lin as just a passing Point Guard when his teammates cannot score or create plays. The Motion Offense is so predictable. D grade, for Atkinson’s coaching in the preseason.
    These are NBA players with Veterans. Don’t put the blame on the players trying to learn the motion offense. They only shoot 3’s off the Motion offense. Ugh. Not liking what is coming out of Atkinson’s mouth right now.

  • GoJLin!

    He also play a lot PG mode, at least 10 Assists, may be more if bench can shoot better. He is a combo G, so play both when necessary! Just pray he can stay healthy!

  • norah mackenzie

    For all the people on this forum my personal opinion is that this last game proved that the nets are coming together as a team and i think we sd all be proud of that. Of course there are still lots of areas for improvement but i think the team did well for this last game.

  • sws94

    Lin is a 1.5 and that’s how he should play. He played better in the second half.

  • Alaingrvis

    One big issue for Lin is know when to shoot and when to pass. What i took from Atkinson is His scoring came easy and smooth but his passing was more like a sg. It was a bit forced. That what i saw myself . although the motion offense is not working that well, i think atkinsons thinks its Lins job to set the motion offense. It has looked better in games before. So Lin will have a huge impact on the motion offense and its effectiveness.

  • grover chang

    I’m starting to think Atkinson has a warped sensitivity for the
    little guy. He wants a egalitarian system where all the players are
    equal. The only way such a system works in society and in basketball is
    if all the players play to the lowest common denominator. In other
    words they will all be equal as teammates if they all equally suck.
    Then KA will be happy.

    The problem is Atkinson
    has a superstar and can’t reign him in because Lin thrives in any system
    you place him in. I hope KA isn’t too stubborn and starts to dislike
    Lin for outshining the rest of the team. Maybe the only reason KA was
    partial to Lin in the beginning was because he was the little guy at the
    time.

  • Alaingrvis

    Thats not true

  • Alaingrvis

    Atkinson was the one who worked with Lin individually before Linsanity. Im sure he didn’t do it for Lin to fit in on the knicks

  • heart

    Doesn’t KA see that the reason Nets stay competitive was Lin’s scoring? Lin can pass as much as KA wants but if his teammates don’t score, there won’t by any assists for Lin and without Lin scoring then Nets might face blow out after blow out every game. Not happy w/ his statement tonight.

  • grover chang

    KA gets his jollys in taking someone raw and developing them into a good player. But what will he do when there is nothing to develop and the player, i.e. Lin, is already good.

  • zxcvb

    Loved listening to Clyde Frazier again. “Surgical precision by Lin!” “Lin…shrewd, clever, slick!”

  • Alaingrvis

    Lin can still develop

  • Alaingrvis

    Loved that. My favorite broadcaster

  • MKL

    I don’t mind KA telling Lin to pass. It’s when Lin has to force passes to players that are not at their spots or lazy cutting that’s the issue.

  • norah mackenzie

    atkinson is a new coach and he needs and wants to win more than anything else. this is his chance and if he is that stupid which i dont think he is then he deserves to lose. this team can do better than people project esp with lin at its pg. and i know that lin wants to win more than anything else not only for himself but for every single person who has insulted and degraded and ignored him over the seasons. if anyone thinks that he will allow kenny to do his best to tank i certainly dont

  • grover chang

    True, but then I would be a tiger fan asking an A student to become an A+ student.

  • zxcvb

    Most fun by far. I also like the guys in Toronto and Washington.

    The worst? Atlanta and Houston. I don’t mind Boston as much as others because I find Heinsohn to be funny in his crotchety-ness.

  • Alaingrvis

    He hasn’t been an everyday starter in a while nor an allstar nor a 1st team NBA. Lin has heights to go and accomplish

  • Alaingrvis

    Toronto ones are terrified of Lin

  • zxcvb

    They’re just great to listen to in general, even when Lin isn’t playing them. Dominique Wilkins in Atlanta is hands-down the worst in the business. A boring total homer who is borderline illiterate.

  • joy

    Unfortunately there’s not enough preseason games for us to develop and improve, this includes KA too. Sigh!

  • aggressiveplayer

    I can see the Nets taking a small step coming together after this match, but man.. that bench..

  • grover chang

    My point isn’t that KA would purposely tank. This is not BS all over again. KA is a development coach. He visualized a team that would be bad with undeveloped talent. He would take that talent with veteran leadership and make it grow into a competitive team. Therefore his image of this season was to D-E-V-E-L-O-P and Lin was to help him with that. So by focusing on raising his worse players up, he is not raising his best players (Brook-Lin) up. BS did the same thing but on purpose to lose. KA is at risk of doing the same thing unintentionally.

    I used the analogy of the teacher ignoring her smarter kids education because they know everything already and working on the other students in the class who are struggling. Doesn’t help the smarter kids.

  • guest

    Atkinson is not infallible. When he puts his system over the strengths of the players, especially with this roster, doesn’t bode well for the season. When the Nets did score, most was not due to the Motion offense. The defenses were already set and the Nets players were set in their standard positions.

  • zxcvb

    He’s trying to coach the way he learned in Atlanta, the Spurs way Coach Bud learned from Pop.

    Problem is that he doesn’t have the talent to do that. He’s so nice/inspirational that he thinks he can teach anyone, but only a few guys are really getting it. Foye gets it, but Foye can’t score. Bogs can score, but he doesn’t get it.

    Only Lin and maybe Harris seem to get it AND succeed in the “egalitarian” motion offense.

  • aggressiveplayer

    His shots seem to be way off, he gets juked HARD on defense, commits bad fouls, not much of a finishing ability. I was high on Kilpatrick before but now I’m not so sure =/ On the bright side he can still fix these things during the season.

  • stam

    absolutely, this leads to TOs. Let him shoot anytime he wants, he makes the team much better when he makes the decision. Asking him to pass more just messes with his instincts.

  • joy

    Sure. But it seems the BIG needs another six preseason games to get himself ready. He better plays harder in the coming real games.

  • grover chang

    If KA doesn’t make Lopez look good, that is a huge coaching fail. GM job to get talent. Coaches job is to use it.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Interviews with Jeremy, Brook, and Kenny. Sorry for the lousy graphic …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/789297632908828672

  • MKL

    KA should let Lin dictate the pace. I would say that Lin has excellent instincts on passing.

  • joy

    Perhaps you should look at closely on his 10 assists then.

  • norah mackenzie

    i guess you are right – but if he does that then sadly it will be another wasted season for lin

  • Click Click

    Jeremy Lin is #13 in PPG and #15 Per 36 PPG During Preseason
    Per 36 = 26.6 PTS / 8.7 AST / 2.2 STL / 61.9% FG / 50% 3P

    https://i.sli.mg/UuJ3np.jpg

    https://i.sli.mg/pwfcUy.png

    https://i.sli.mg/PGBLcz.png

  • Yura

    Agreed

  • joy

    Thanks. Lin’s steal from Melo made my day. lol

  • Click Click
  • Yura

    I didn’t know James Harden had the ability to get those assists..

  • zxcvb

    Lin was 5 out of 5 in his preseason games — ranging from very good to super-elite. And he did so in a different way each game, depending on what was required/asked of him.

    A+ preseason for Lin…and he played mostly in a balanced motion offense.

  • joy

    Knicks #31 is really a pain. Someone should screen for Lin from him. 🙁

  • zxcvb

    Winnable if Lin plays 38 minutes and they play more straight-up PnR.

  • Spyckie

    Preseason. What a ride. A lot of bad basketball, but a lot of unnecessary bad basketball as well.

    We saw what we needed from the Dleague players. Maybe saw a little too much from them, but I am willing to let that slide because it was a gamble to see if any of them would break out. Yogi, Bennett, CMC, Whitehead will all be sent down.

    The Nets will be playing 10 or 11 players. Lin, Foye, Vasquez, RHJ, Skil, Bog, Harris, Scola, Brook, Hamilton, Booker. This is a solid lineup with Scola, Vasquez, Foye, Lin, Booker, Brook as vets and Skil, RHJ, Harris, Bog, Hamilton looking to improve their game.

    My biggest takeaway is optimism that the Nets can be competitive. Take out some of those lineups that have glaring weaknesses and you can really win some games out there.

    The biggest problem with the Nets is their lack of flexibility. They don’t have any 2 way players besides Lin, and that’s a huge issue because it means some lineups are just outright terrible and will lose you games.

    First, they lack depth at rebounding. Brook, Booker, RHJ, and Scola are average rebounders but no one is dominant in this area and some people are real holes.

    We saw in this game a lineup of Hamilton, Bennett and Bog as the big men down low. They gave 4 second chances to the Knicks IN A ROW. That is inexcusable and a big part of why we lost the lead and got down in a 10 point hole.

    Short story, we need Booker, Brook or RHJ on the court at all times to stem our rebounding woes.

    Second, they lack foot speed. Foye and Lin are the fastest out there, and they need to be on the court whenever there is a small fast pg out there.

    Third, they lack playmakers. Vasquez and Lin are the only ones that can run an offense.

    In short they have a lot of lineups on paper that can really get taken advantage of, and need to stick with the few lineups that could work well:

    Disaster combinations we’ve seen:
    No Speed – Vasquez | Harris | Bog
    Hamilton against any stronger center
    No Playmaking – Bog | Harris | Skil
    RHJ at the 2 clogging up the space

    This seems to be the starting lineup, and I like it because it is very balanced. Has little weaknesses.
    Lin | Foye | RHJ | Booker | Brook

    The Nets winning games is very much dependent on the lineups that they play. If they can find those situations to make their 1 way players competitive by minimizing their weaknesses, they can find their wins.

    The trick is sneaking in sub-optimal lineups at times where they won’t put the starters in a hole. And that is quite a feat – we’ve seen in the game blow wide open in a matter of minutes with the bad lineups out there.

    Lin had a fantastic preseason, as usual. He hates to lose – you could really see it in the last quarter of the game.

  • joy

    That’s the reason why Lin works so hard this summer to improve his shot. As a leader, he should be excel in both. I only hope he doesn’t overdo himself.

  • joy

    Last year his role was SG, not PG (probably a few times when Kemba’s out).

  • guest

    Watching the game again and noticing Lin dribbling high while driving or probing. He needs to get back to working on his handles.

  • cshot

    i agree. i’ve always said this and ended up getting lots of hate for it but i stand firm to this. His handles just arent quite what they should be as a PG. he needs to spend like a summer on really really focusing on his handles and dribble moves. it would open up soooo many things for him. Saying this as a loyal Lin fan guys dont kill me lol

  • sport

    Lopez would have to play 30+ minutes too and yes straight up PnR! No more motion offense nonsense.

  • sport

    Must be the MDA PnR offense.

  • MEL LIN

    I agree.

  • guest

    100% Lin fan. We saw him improve his handles after working on it and saw it was a lot tighter last season. But it looks like he’s been focusing on his shooting and not ingraining his new dribbling skill sets. Like changing his shot, repetition, repetition with his dribbling skills.

  • joy

    Thanks for the insights! You should be KA’s advisor. 🙂

  • MEL LIN

    add free throw to it please

  • cshot

    now that his shot seems to be falling and improved, someone set him up with appointments with dribble2much and the professor lol. man it would be freaking awesome to see jeremy do some of the moves curry does

  • cshot

    his freethrows have been so up and down… frustrating at times

  • InfiniteWisdom

    What on earth did i just watch? the team looked HORRIBLE out there… what was up with the rotations? still experimenting? this team is doomed before the all star break…

    Lin: he was pretty wild out there today. i dunno what happened. he was aggressive, but got no help. poor handles, poor chemistry. 8 TO is way too many. and that 4th quarter was LOL. he even got a lil injured trying to win a meaningless game vs the knicks 3rd string. really?

    Brook: so many threes. why? this will kill us…. he looked good in the first half, mediocre in the 2nd half. still played only 20 mins. guess we werent trying real rotations after all…

    Foye: i thought he was ok. didnt do much, but also didnt hurt us.

    RHJ: his d on melo was real good. hit a 3. good job.

    Booker: where was he all game? why play him only 15 mins? did he get hurt or kenny resting him? obviously he made our team competitive in the 1st half. didnt play the 2nd half i think and we lost cuz of it.

    TRASHquez: is pure unadultered TRASH. i cant take it anymore. he’s sooooo slow. the 2nd unit got KILLED. his +/- was a team worst -15. can we please stop this madness and sit him? play foye and skil on the 2nd unit. we dont need him. he’s a net negative every game. he wont get better. no more excuses….

    Bog: it’s not the olympics anymore. he’s got to go against NBA players now. his lack of speed is a KILLER… ugh… he’s best used as a spot shooter. and in that case i’d rather have harris.

    Harris: the hidden GEM of our team. not a great player but plays within himself, sound fundamentals, plays hard on d even if he’s not that great at it, and a SNIPER from 3. needs more minutes…

    Hamilton: very disappointed in him tonight. open all night and only sank one 3. let o’quinn abuse him in the 2nd half. sigh…

    Bennett: he is officially approaching trashquez level. cant finish at the rim, it’s like any slight contact stops him. settles for brick 3s way too much. adds nothing to the roster.

    Skil: i think he’s getting screwed on this team. instead of him being a co-ballhandler on the second unit, he barely gets minutes. then when he’s in he has to play with trashquez. and all he does is stand in the corner. i think he should play with foye and should be a 1-2 punch on the 2nd unit… he’s had his problems, but at least he’s aggressive and is waaay better than trashquez….

    scola: invisible out there tonight. oddly enough, he’s one of the teams best 3 pt shooters yet had no attempts tonight.

    the second unit is pure garbage. no ballhandlers and all gunners jacking up 3’s… they severely need a guy like lin to organize them. instead they have trashquez who plays solid no TO pg, but he cant force the opponent to play defense, doesnt attack with speed, cant shoot. and his d is atrocious. jennings flew by him with ease. the team is in SERIOUS trouble with the 2nd unit.

    if this team is going to get more than 20 wins they need big minutes from the starters. lin and brook for offense. lin, rhj, booker for defense. foye needs to play some with starters and a LOT with bench. harris needs minutes with starters. and i also think SKil needs minutes with starters. not a coincidence his best game was when he played with lin and the starters on that 2nd boston game. last but not least we still missing a defensive shot blocking big. i think hanilton is nice as afloor spacing 5, but he got bodied by o’quinn of all people. that’s got to be fixed….

  • sport

    Pretty sure JLin did more crossovers and dribbling last season not sure where that went.

  • cshot

    i guess motion offense gets rid of his chances to do so as well

  • sport

    No PnR either. :/

  • MEL LIN

    noticed there were a lot of knicks fans inside the arena

  • Alaingrvis

    https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/789299711387766784 Lopez still needs some adjusting. He has looksed ok to there albeit in 15 minute per game. He needs to get the rust off.

  • MEL LIN

    he should go ask Mark price for advice

  • sport

    Coach should’ve played Lopez more, not sure why he was benching him so much. Lopez should be a no.1/2 option yet he barely played preseason games. :/

  • mara
  • guest

    No way was this offense like the previous 5 preseason games. It’s like Atkinson abandoned the Motion Offense. Unless I’m not really understanding motion offense. We wasted 5 preseason games instead of building Brook-Lin chemistry. Lopez needs to touch the ball a lot more, and not from the 3. Right now, this team looks like Briick-Lyn. Come on Coach!

  • MEL LIN

    he needs to cut his hair by opening night

  • cshot

    Well im still gonna have hope. Brook said in his post interv that they are purposely avoiding to do the PNR with jeremy bc they r confident in it. Want to establish motion offense better

  • Yura

    NO why?!

  • mara

    Dunno if he’ll do that…

  • sport

    Not from the TOs I’ve seen when JLin tried to pass to Lopez and vice-versa! They need actual game playing time together not just practice.

  • sport

    I agree that pony tail should go bring back the mohawk.

  • Yura

    I just watched the highlights and yea, it seemed like Lin worked his butt off while his team mates didn’t do much. The Knicks looked great – their passes, chemistry, everything… this is coming from me who knows nothing about basketball..

  • kauaiblue

    Is his knee ok?

  • guest

    This offense was not even uptempo. The inbound always took too long to give the ball the Lin. You can see Lin, just wanting to take off, but instead, hopping up and down until the inbound finally gets him the ball. The bigs do not want to run. That is why they take their time giving him the ball. Let’s get some Bigs who will run, rebound, and do the dirty work. When I see Lin boxing out the opponents Bigs better than ours…?

  • InfiniteWisdom

    i agree the starters are a well balanced lineup. if they could play 48 minutes a night, we’d be a sure thing for the playoffs. however the bench is a DISASTER. i cant think of any combination of bench players that makes up a palatable lineup. and if kenny takes some guys out of the starters and plays them with the bench, then BOTH lineups go down the toilet. we lack talent so much i think it’ll come down to how long can the starters sit out. can the bench just try to keep the game close…

  • InfiniteWisdom

    well people asked for more pnr and less motion and this was the result… ISOS!!!! isos everywhere…. they didnt play as a team tonight. i think they need to keep the motion offense but have plays where the ball ends up in lin’s hands. pnr or iso while people just stand there is like watching harden play. tons of points, tons of TO’s, one man show….

  • psalm234

    let’s not cut the ponytail yet.
    There’s a theory that it might help his excellent 3pt-shooting by providing rhythm and Linstant feedback 🙂

  • guest

    I’m concerned that Lopez doesn’t even look good in the post. What is going on with him? Anyone have any insight, besides not being used to this offense? He should still be able to dominate from the post. Unless he is not as good as I thought he was. Al Jefferson’s foot work in the post looks better.

  • zxcvb

    Just listened to the postgame interview — sounds fine (whew!). At the very end, the Taiwanese reporter asked him about the ice on his leg and Lin said it was just his usual ice-packs, nothing special.

  • Sunn

    I do agree his handles aren’t up to the par like Chris paul and curry, but i firmly believe his turnovers are result of him forcing to set plays and at sometimes rushing into it. To be honest I wasn’t as satisfied with his performance today even though his number states otherwise, and believe me i have watched every single game of his since the linsanity days. i know he can score lights out and that never was a doubt and he will win games for his team because of his competitive nature and his skills, but sometimes I think he needs to relax a little and not force himself to make plays when its not there so the TO don’t show up on the stats sheet and his handles won’t look so bad either. I still think he is not mentally there prepared that he his the point guard and the leader of the Nets after everything he went through in his career and to finally be accepted as what he always believed he was a point guard and a leader in every team he is been on. I truly believe as time progresses we will see hime more comfortable and his TO will come down.Like lIn always said his game is more mental than anything else and we all know when he is comfortable there no force stopping lin.

  • Steppen03

    Still not too concerned about the offense. I need to see the first 5 games in regular to place judgement. Coach KA should be smart enough to make changes accordingly. I think Brook Lopez is smart enough and skilled enough to put up good numbers. But we do need “every players” to contribute at the 3pt line. Main thing is: LET JLIN runs the team – put the ball in his hand when you want to get stops and score.

  • Steppen03

    Definitely should attempt 5-6 threes in regular games … Like a SC30.

  • Steppen03

    Think KA want to give him more time adjusting…. as well see other guys more.

  • psalm234

    Brook is still getting used to the motion offense system.
    Coach KA reiterated the need to find a balance of motion offense, PnR, and post-ups.

    I think we should expect the 1st 15-20 games to be a learning process for the rotations and mastering the balance of those 3 systems. It’s quite different with the Hornets preseason with a lot of players who learned Clifford’s system in 2-3 seasons already.
    We might see games when different players have up-and-down performance while Lin has to be the player to carry the team.
    Defense and the bench strength will be key factors if they’ll be competitive or not.

    Brook Lopez, who had another uncomfortable game in the motion offense, talked about getting used to the system.

    “It is definitely something I am not used to,” said the Nets center who finished with 12 points on 4-of-11 shooting. “This preseason has been a great advantage and tool and have been scrimmaging in practice as well so it is something I have been seeing every day now so I am definitely getting more and more comfortable with it.

    “I think it is just getting used to the personal difference and finding that balance like I have been mentioning a lot. Just knowing obviously Jeremy is very strong in the pick-and-roll and a lot of guys fit best in a motion –dribble, drive, kick it out– system and finding a balance in those three things with those two in the post-ups.”

    “I think we’ve made progress,” Kenny Atkinson said of the preseason. “And that’s going to be our message all year, progress, development, improvement.”
    Link: http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/20/13354128/nets-finish-preseason-with-116-111-loss-to-knicks

  • psalm234

    good headline by @BrooklynNets

    @BrooklynNets: #Nets got a big boost from Lin on Thursday night, but it wasn’t enough:
    http://www.nba.com/nets/news/2016/10/20/nets-close-preseason-loss-knicks
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/789316409444753408

  • blueCypher

    How is that knee, nothing reported means it’s okay ?

  • psalm234

    Post-game audio from JLin, Brook, Coach KA at Netsdaily
    https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/789306016152166400

  • cshot

    Listen above. Hes fine

  • psalm234
  • Steppen03

    It’s just ONE game with high TOs, folks. We KNOW JLin7 better than this ! He’s ready for the challenges ahead but it’s NOT a smooth ride. What matters is he’ll keep getting better and help grab wins.

  • psalm234
  • psalm234

    JLin’s takeaways:
    1 We have to get stops consistently. Defensively, we need to be more on the string(?)
    2. Should be fine scoring the ball; we know how to score the ball

    We need to hang our hats on being really tight on defense, but that takes time. No group ever just showed up

  • InfiniteWisdom

    he’s better turning and facing up. he’s not good back to the basket.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    i agree. he should never stop attacking, but he needs to trust his shot and pull up for a jumper once in a while. he forces it too much sometimes, trying to get all the way to the rim, instead of being content he got past his own defender and should pull up/floater, etc. tonight he was driving 1 on 5 on some possessions. i think a lot of his TOs are uncalled fouls, but tonight he also had poor handles and travels which compounded into 8 TO’s…

  • ViNuyork

    we were in Barclay tonight…..just some observations…
    1. for those who will go to Barclay center next time..if you wanna go inside Barclay faster than 45 min….do not line up in front….line up at the back of the stadium–the line’s shorter and faster…we were lucky a traffic guard advised us while we were going to cross the street to Barclay

    2. Nets have to do something with their fan base…I thought we were at MSG…there were more Knicks fans than Brooklynettes as they call themselves…there was just a lil portion in barclay were a small group of Net fans who called themselves Brooklyn brigade who were cheering…..we were actually surrounded mostly by knicks fans who were louder

    3. Nets should have included Courtney. Lee when they recruited Jeremy…..Jlin needs help ….I’m not very sure with his team mates…..he had to carry this team in this game ….he was the only crafty one …….

  • blueCypher

    KA has some head-scratching decisions to make about that 2nd unit. Otherwise, he’s gonna have to play Lin like close 40 mins lol

  • psalm234

    my guess is Foye needs to play with the 2nd unit because he’s the only one other than Lin who can penetrate consistently.
    Skilpatrick is not comfortable with the system yet, Vasquez and LaVert are not 100% or healthy yet

  • psalm234

    a glimpse of @JLin7 innate court-vision
    idk how he retrieved the ball, saw the hole, threaded the pass full-court ..all in a split-second
    https://twitter.com/kietchayla/status/789324616334315520

  • joy

    Lin demonstrated what it means of ‘playing harder’ tonight. I expect to see the same spirit from other players in the coming games.

  • CJSHYY

    Lin’s long pass is back…. haha!

  • psalm234

    QB-style!
    After the 10th loop, I can see Melo tried to swipe at the ball and gave up lol

  • norah mackenzie

    courtney lee was offered a huge contract with the knicks so there was no way he wd be going to the nets – abt 50 million plus

  • norah mackenzie

    short hair will balance everything – yin and yang etc

  • joy

    No worries. I believe Lin knows KA better than you. It’s a process and is too early to make such a quick judgement on KA.

  • blueCypher

    Ya, Vasquez is not ready . He should only be playing spot minutes. Randy Foye in the 2nd unit makes sense cause he is a playmaker/ball handler.

  • psalm234

    Folks, we need to pray, hope & wish for JLin’s health

    After looking at this GIF, this could’ve been a lot worse 🙁
    Thank God he’s okay! @heart:disqus, we’ll keep it up
    http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/mw690/6233c39dgw1f8zor2s6vng20h90b31l2.gif

  • blueCypher

    Ya, hope nothing negative comes out of this in the next few days

  • psalm234

    yes, let’s hope so

  • blueCypher

    Nothing was reported post game so I assume he’s fine

  • Arsenium12 .

    I saw an astonishing pass from Lin today. I was watching some highlights of a game against Toronto, played on Apr. 2, 2014. He got the ball from Omer Asik near his free throw line (upper photo) and made a chest pass to Chandler Parsons right by the Raptors’ basket (lower photo). The pass was so precise, all Parsons had to do was dunk it.
    __________
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/254ba97cde4589593f663d46ab952455dd04f4fced41049c5c4d5bc0e3c97078.jpg

  • heart

    Baker #31 got beaten by Lin on many possessions so I believed he extended his knee to Lin’s knee on purpose for pay back. Ref #46 was standing there in front of the action, did he call foul on Baker? Didn’t see the ref use his whistle…

  • Whitman Lam

    Yeah, and Knicks gave CLee a 4-year contract, and he’s already in his 30’s.

  • joy

    Lin needs to be very careful and stay away this guy (Knicks #31 ) next time. He’s a wild animal.

  • psalm234

    I remember that moment 🙂
    God willing, we’ll see a lot more long-passes this season!

  • spiderman

    dopey ref is like “good play”

  • zxcvb

    Wasn’t as bad as I thought. The contact happened while his leg was in the air, so it didn’t absorb most of the hit.

    He should definitely be extra careful this season, even if it means giving up a couple buckets by playing looser defense. This team WITH Lin is capable of winning 40+ games. This team WITHOUT Lin would challenge the all-time record for fewest wins.

  • Geoffrey

    believe Lin got Charlie horsed.

  • TVN

    Agree with pretty much everything you wrote. On good nights, this team can be competitive. 2-guard spot is a big hole on this team. Harris is the best option if he can consistently play like he did tonight.

  • joy

    Relax! Give Lin time to adjust back to his original role, get into the new system, and develop the chemistry with his teammates, even with the coach. Right now he has so many things in his head and to digest (imagine his pressure). He will continue make mistakes which is part of the process. I think we should all expect Lin with a total new perspective this season!

  • Geoffrey

    24 pts on 9 shots is ridiculously efficient! thought Lin’s ex-teammate C Lee also had a good game getting 15 pts on 8 shots…

  • joy

    The Nets could have signed C Lee. He’s unselfish player too. I wonder why they skip him.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Even the NBA put out a highlight reel for Jeremy after last night’s game …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/789345486582927360

  • joy

    They better do that. Lin absolutely deserves it!!

  • joy

    Here is the steal from Melo.

    https://vine.co/v/5wJbAnqDJdU

  • aggressiveplayer

    My analysis of the preseason:

    I think we’re decent or okay offensively. Our main concern is defense.
    Despite articles saying the Net’s season is determined by how well Lin plays, I think it’s the opposite. I think Lin is in for a big year, but I think his teammates need to step up in order for them to surprise people. Specifically, I think these teammates are the X factors:

    Justin Hamilton: Probably the most important player for the Net’s success. I thought he was quite good in the beginning of preseason, but now I think he’s lacking defensively. Hamilton is 7’0″ and a lot of the defensive responsibility is up to him. The Nets are lacking in rebounding and rim protection, and if they want to improve in those aspects it all starts with Hamilton. Of course other players can contribute, but they don’t have the height advantage that Hamilton does.

    Brook Lopez: He has a lot he needs to work on in this system. Like Hamilton, he needs to rebound better and defend better. Lopez needs to be quicker and not let guys blow by him as easily. For offensive, he needs to either adjust to the motion offense system or the Nets needs to find a balance that would help bring out his game.

    Greivis Vasquez: There’s no way he should continue playing like he did in preseason. He looks way too slow for both defense and offense. He doesn’t have any quickness or ball handling for any sort of penetration to back up Lin. He needs to tighten up on defense or get other teammates to help him.

    Sean Kilpatrick/Bojan Bogdanovic: We need reliable shooting guards. Kilpatrick needs to stop fouling jump shooters. He gets blown by way too easily, probably even worse than Vasquez. Kilpatrick still isn’t finding his stroke and just looks horrible overall. Kilpatrick might find his stroke soon enough but there may be worries about him defensively that won’t be fixed. Bojan looks more solid on defense and offense. Both Kilpatrick and Bojan need to learn how to finish at the rim, but I notice that Bojan seems to hold the ball a bit too much and wastes time on the shot clock. He needs to learn to either drive or shoot the ball when he has no one to pass to. Others could also move around a bit more to help him move the ball.

    In summary, the Net’s main problem is defense in rebounding, rim protection (bench), and transition defense. We look like we’re doing a good job of causing turnovers for the other team, so that’s a positive. On offense, my biggest knock is we seriously lack personnel that can help penetrate into the paint. That can be compensated for by ball movement and cuts but it would be preferable if we had a secondary player to penetrate besides Lin.

  • fungch1218

    too risky at his age.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Also, for everyone still worrying about not having PnRs with Jeremy Lin, Brook has said he’s “very confident” with it, and that the Nets are just trying to find the right balance of PnRs, motion offense, etc at the moment. So don’t worry! The PnR will be there as we go further along the season.

  • Geoffrey

    cost too much

  • Epie
  • Michael

    Melo’s first reaction was to turn around and blame his teammate for not warning him.

  • occupatio

    which ‘back’ entrance did you use? there is more than one according to their website.

    http://www.barclayscenter.com/getting-here/barclays-center-guide

  • Trish1217

    This is the reason why we want him to start. He deserves this kind of official recognition. He’s not gonna get this coming off the bench.

  • joy

    Guess who’s next to him? Courtney Lee. 🙂
    Lin run through between them while Melo taking the ball carelessly.
    Lin always surprises his fans. Haha~

  • ViNuyork

    they only opened 2– front (box office) and the back by Dean St and atlantic….

  • ViNuyork

    well, C Lee and Jlin were both really good last night…d Hornets must miss them

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    because under the same circumstances, he is way better than most NBA players.

  • mara

    Prayers are upcoming for our boy as always:)

  • Maknusia

    lol…Luis thought the throw was intended for him

  • Maknusia

    Great passes there!

  • Maknusia

    not sure if Lin highlights had been posted…justin case…
    by FreeDawkins

  • Maknusia

    Jeremy Lin Highlights – 10/20 Knicks at Nets

    By Speed of Lin

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I like this game highlights better which shows the pace and flow of the game.

  • Maknusia

    Blaiyan is back

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin is explosive in his speed dashing right between Lee and Melo. Lee didn’t have time to warn anyone and not even himself.

  • 1mtoldman

    updated preseason stats (minimum 5 games)

    scoring top 10 in order allowing for ties

    harden, durant, klay thompson, lillard, cousins, fournier, russell, kat (karl anthony towns), enes kanter, lin, curry, jabari parker

    assists top 10 in order allowing for ties

    harden, paul, tim frazier (no) rondo, westbrook, dragic, dellavedova, sergio rodriguez (phil), lin, rubio

    harden and lin only ones top 10 in both points per game and assists per game

    field goal % backcourt players (min 15 ppg)
    lin #1 (2nd overall to only cousins)

    seq (scoring efficiency quotient)–ppg factored in terms of ppm and pps–minimum 15 ppg

    overall in order: lin, cousins, durant, thompson, harden
    backcourt in order: lin, thompson, harden, curry, lillard
    frontcourt in order: cousins, durant, kawhi leonard, kat, kanter

    conclusion: to date preseason lin along with harden and cousins have been the most dominant offensive players, lin and harden in terms of multiple volumes, lin and cousins in terms of efficiency.

  • rookie75094

    Uh oh…this ali guy is about to get Click-Clicked… hehe

  • TTNN

    Lee don’t want to come. Lee was a Nets before…….

  • grover chang

    Two words still bother me after this preseason. Development and process. These are words of losing, rebuilding teams who main focus is not winning. There is no development if younger “bad” players do not play. There is little winning if development and rebuilding is the focus.

    If Brook Lopez continues to be ignored and then eventually traded then Lin wasn’t brought in to win but to teach. That means losing. 🙁

  • AL

    where to see post intvw?

  • David Kim

    https://youtu.be/FJ0hA3GUaQ8

    jin Liu’s highlights always good..

  • David Kim

    Coach should let Lopez more pnr with Lin and some post ups.. Nets needs Lopez score more than those pre season games.. I think coach will do that..

  • KL

    I understand your concern. It looks like Atkinson wants to implement an idealised system. It looks to be a higher priority than winning right now. We should wait till the regular season before further judgment. But even if our worst fears come true it may just mean that winning is deferred.

  • sws94

    He needs to work with the handles he has. He doesn’t have great handles, I’ve said this a long time as well. In open space, Lin is shifty and has slick handles. In traffic, he doesn’t have the same ability. It comes down to decision-making. He has to try not to get into situations where he’s vulnerable. And you’re right, some dribbling basics he solved last year he’s reverted to. But, I don’t think it’s a big deal and quickly fixable. He improved his handles last season and he hasn’t lost that ability.

  • BobbyH

    The context of this AK speech is for preseason. Let’s see if this carries into regular season. If so, we need to be concerned.

    Just for this game, I can tell that Lin wanted to win. But AK has his own view, which is understandable.

  • sws94

    I think you make good points. You don’t go from a combo guard to a point guard over night. I expected a transition period. And as the season progresses, they’ll be bumps in the road where he’ll look shaky. I think he has a tendency to drive too much and then look to pass. As he develops, he’ll look to make better passes from the paint. Most of Lin’s great passes are in the open court or the paint after dribble-drive penetration, not so much pocket passes or mid-range passes. That’s what he needs to develop more.

  • heart

    What if the rumor Lopez or Bogs are on the trading block is true? There must be some reasons why things don’t seem to make sense. Lopez is not running pnr w/ Lin or being utilized his best strengths in preseason games as much as we’ve seen. And either Bogs or Harris are not starting but are in the 2nd unit together? Both have similar skills. Wouldn’t you want to build around your players’ strengths as he has indicated prior to preseason? At this rate who knows what KA is thinking. He made two questionable statements about Lin that made most of us scratching our heads… I give him the benefit of the doubt for now since it’s his 1st time coaching in the NBA. We’ll see how the regular season unfolds and a clearer picture will eventually surface.

  • CJSHYY

    Got this from the other side… I am OK w Lin’s TO…. one game no big deal.

    James Harden & Jeremy Lin are only 2 players to be in top 10 of both assists and scoring.

    And for those complaining about JLIN’s turnovers – Harden is leading overall first in pre-season turnovers.

  • sws94

    RHJ read that beautifully. He peeked at Lin, knew he was going to get the steal, then ran down the court to receive Lin’s pass. Nice teamwork.

  • David Kim

    So foye is starter?

  • KHuang

    If those two are on the trading block, that means the Nets are DOOMED.

  • KHuang

    Unfortunately yes.

    Foye doesn’t produce, so he starts.

  • BobbyH

    Thanks for the info. How about parking?

  • KHuang

    I could even forgive Atkinson playing youngsters like RHJ, Whitehead, and CMC.

    But to try to make Scola and Booker and Vasquez superstars despite their failing broken down play, that is totally wrong.

    Everything that is conventionally done in the NBA, Atkinson is rebelling against.

  • David Kim

    Which player you guys want to see as a starting SG?
    1) foye
    2) Bogs
    3) Harris
    4) kilpatrick

  • KHuang

    Don’t worry about Hamilton.

    He’s getting in better shape every game.

    Once he fully gets in shape, he’ll become one of the best centers in the NBA.

  • joy

    The 2nd and 3rd TO should be fouled by the opponent. The ref did’t make the call.

  • Arsenium12 .

    One thing to keep in mind, going forward, is that the Nets still have $15 million in cap space. Here are the teams with cap space remaining …
    __________
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff07b11ab55f78f7a3af527329cded50cc79a83ee36dfc2d9a16562cece13188.jpg

  • KHuang

    Harris, he’s EARNED IT.

  • joy

    Definitely not kilpatrick.

  • sws94

    This team is in its infancy with Coach Atkinson. It is a process and many of his guys are developing. That’s what he’s known for: developing players. The preseason is for evaluation, not winning, just experimentation and evaluation. Nothing is set in stone and nothing has happened yet. The team needs to play a few weeks before we’ll get a better sense of the how this coach coaches.

    But, as with any team, he has a team to coach. Lin and Lopez are leaders and will carry a lot of weight, but the team plays defense, the team has different guys with different strengths to be utilized, the bench needs a lot of work, and so on and so on.

    I wanted Lin to win and wanted him on the Pelicans. But he’s here on the Nets. It’s what the vast majority of the fans here wanted. And the season has yet to begin. These games aren’t real games. They begin next Wednesday. So, I’ll see you then.

  • psalm234

    The green color of JLin’s preseason shooting chart is very soothing

    @MikeSGallagher
    Jeremy Lin finished the preseason with 17.2 points per game on a beautiful 77.3 TS%. Linsanity back?
    https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/status/789300148081876993

  • psalm234

    Foye was quite good & gave some life to the 2nd team in the 1st half last night being the only one who can penetrate. So he might need to help them out.

    Pretty much only Lin and Foye can penetrate consistently.
    Now I see why Sean Marks desperately wants to get Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe.

  • psalm234

    Foye might be needed to help the 2nd team so ideally Harris or Bog will help.
    Harris can cut to the rim more effectively than Bog but Bog might need to start for potential trade purpose or to keep him motivated.

    Coach KA will have quite a homework on the SG position for the starters and reserve teams

  • webattorney

    I saw what you saw after first preseason game. Nothing after first game changed my mind.

  • David Kim

    Yes foye needs to help second team..
    I will go for bogs too

  • webattorney

    I have been saying this for long time. But his handle is fine when he goes forward.

  • CJSHYY

    This highlight is good. Lin is fast….

    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/789345486582927360

  • psalm234

    Brook Lopez is ranked #4 for players with the highest odds to be traded at 7/4
    Coach KA would need to prioritize getting him going offensively in the first 10-15 games so the odds won’t get bigger

    https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/789491251737395200

  • joy

    Well, he should because he turned over the ball to Melo in the first place then Lin stole it back. He still has a lot to learn.

  • joy

    Someone put up the interview earlier or you can go to the Nets website to listen it.

  • heart

    We should know Lin by now that he wants to win any time he plays. And every time he plays he gives his best effort into every game, but good result is also dependent the coaching. We’ve seen Lin was able to read and make adjustment in every game, but we’ve yet to see the coaching adjusted. That’s the concern going into the regular season…

  • psalm234

    It’s good to note that Lin and Melo exchanged low-fives after Melo fouled him on the drive, raised his hand to acknowledge his foul and exchanged low-fives. Lin also returned with backside-slap.

    [mark 7:22] on Jun Liu’s highlights
    https://youtu.be/FJ0hA3GUaQ8?t=7m22s

  • sws94

    Yes, good observation!

  • Bulldog

    Harris has played so well in these games. He is my pick.

  • Bulldog

    Don’t think DA’s Harden playing PG experiment going to work. Harden has played almost 30 minutes every game in the pre-season. I can smell Morey’s star making plan.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I really think Melo is not that bad …. Compare to Harden….

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Luis Scola at the age of 36 moves like a wild cat. He’s quick!

  • psalm234

    What do you think of what Coach KA tries to do with balancing motion offense, PnR and post-ups?
    If Brook is still not comfortable w/ motion offense, he’ll be forced to run some plays to get Brook involved

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    at this kind of tempo heaven no! 40 minutes would be like 60 minutes.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Morey never gave up to send Harden to be MVP… smh!

  • BobbyH

    If last game has any indication, I think Nets can be competitive. They played competitively for three quarters. Some let down in 3Q allows the game slip away.

    As many posters state here. defense and rebounds are the main issue. But defense (help and team defense) can be taught and learned and improved. I am more concerned with Brook, which he is supposed to be one of the top centers in the league. I don’t see that in the 5 games he played. Either the pace is not fitting him or he was taking a stride in preseason. he was constantly out of position or was not finding the right timing for rolling, if he attempted to roll.

    The best they can do is to take what they have and make the best of it and compete in every night. Play hard and compete. Even with less win, they will earn respects. My expectation after 6 preseason games has reduced to 32 win from 41 win. Worse case, Lin will get his number. Just stay healthy and as AK said, progress and development, as a team.

    If they can reach playoff, it is because every player on the team steps up and play heart out night in and night out. For the past 6 games, I only see a few doing that.

    Well, at least we get to see Lin leads a team and constantly having highlights of his crafty scoring and passing. Oh boy, I love his two drive from the left last game. That’s quite impressive, compared to his young Linsanity.

  • grover chang

    What is KA view point? If he is focused on improving with the side effect of winning some games, then that is going to conflict with Lin.

    Lin focus is winning first with the side effect of guys improving under his direction.

    So far KA does believe in Lin but their picture of how the season should unfold is coming from opposite directions.

  • grover chang

    I love that Lin is starting and playing well. I’m enjoying watching him play. BUT I still feel this team should have a winning record. Lin teams win. The losing is unnecessary. If they lose then that’s a coaching mistake.

    BUT if KA coaches a losing season I understand since he is new to this but will be sad for a wasted season. Just like I was sad for the unnecessary tanking with the Lakers, Hornets not advancing, Rockets not advance past blazers. Every instance were coaching mistakes. Missed opportunities. Lin ain’t getting younger.

  • sws94

    I’m still waiting for the regular season to see. In the preseason, Brook seemed to focus on taking 3s and only did a few post-ups. I didn’t see much PnR. At this point, I don’t see any natural chemistry with Brook and Lin, the type we saw with say Psycho T, Ed Davis, or even with say, Hamilton, on this team. I think Brook is adjusting to KA and the new personnel. He said so in his post-game comments.

  • BobbyH

    Yes, AK also plays a factor into winning or not. If he is so stubborn about development that not utilizing talents on the court to win games, then we can call it a wasted season. But at least Lin will restore his rightfully position as a starting PG,

  • ProLin

    I love the fact that Lin got his stats even when he played very badly. When the coach trusts him, he still delivers even after bad performance. 8 TO is bad, and I know he’s beating himself over it, but let that sink-in: He got 24/10 out of this “off” game! If his teammates drained more shots and he played a bit more minutes, THEY COULD HAVE WON THIS ONE. If 24/10 is Lin on a bad day…. watch out NBA.

  • ProLin

    both are full of ego, Harden is over 9000.

  • JFirst

    Is this new news? Brooklyn Nets announce they have waived Yogi Ferrell (Jeff Goodman@ESPN)

  • Derek Kong

    A quick fix. to Nets problems is picking up Steve Blake from the Wires. If they really want to spend for a quality one – there is Mario Chalmers. Unfortunately, there is a lack of PF available. Only Josh Smith who has an attitude problem. There is also Chris Kaman and Tyler Hansborough. I am sure Khuang would love Tyler.

  • grover chang

    Agreed its not a total loss if they have a losing season. Will still be nice to see Lin play starting pg for a team. The losing will just suck. I’m sure it will feel a lot worst for Lin.

  • grover chang

    LOL. I love the idea of Blake as well. But you add Blake and Hansborough to Lopez, Hamilton, Harris, Scola, Bog. Is this the whitest team in the NBA?

  • Guest

    Nets should resign chase budinger

  • Derek Kong

    For what? Our worse position is sub PG and PF.

  • 1mtoldman

    whats being lost in the debate over …various things is the incredible preseason #s lin put up; there are a dozen ways to dice it (forget the 8 turnovers in one game completley irrelevant)–the scoring #s both in terms of efficiency and overall volume are just ridiculous.

    #1 fg % among guards
    along with harden only 2 top 10 in scoring and assists
    projected out to 34 minutes (along w harden) to go over 20/8 per game something has only been done by 4 players in last ten years in regular season
    #1 in overall scoring effiiciency (as determined by formula of ppg in relation to fga’s and minutes)

    there was no reason to assume lin would do this or just take it for granted but it doesn’t seem to be a big deal to his fans as well as his detractors, for some reason.

    but if you look at and parse properly the #s: on individual performance lin (in terms of general expectations as well as actual results) is the story of the nba in pre-season.

    its hard to figure out what this guy would have to do to get unequivocal positive attention from both his fans and the general public.

  • Derek Kong

    Lopez is part african american

  • grover chang

    Yeah. There was enough cream in that coffee that I lumped him in with the white guys.

  • grover chang

    Lin looks awesome. But as long as there is losing, even in preseason, the players, team, or coach will be questioned and criticized. It will only get worse in the regular season if the losses pile up.

    That’s just how it works. Stats aside, the biggest stat is win-loss record. Lin could get MVP numbers and I won’t be surprised. I also won’t be surprised if people ignore MVP numbers if the Nets are losing.

    I love Lin because even with bad stats in a game, Lin can win.

  • ProLin

    The TO came from the fact that Lin has to get used to being double teamed again. He’ll get better as the season rolls along.

  • aggressiveplayer

    KA isn’t trying to make the vets into superstars?

  • CaliUSMC

    pfft- I don’t buy it. He’s still a two-faced punk to me.

  • TVN

    Steve Blake is done. Chalmers would be nice if he’s healthy, but he probably wants to play for a contender.

    Kaman and Hansbrough don’t help a major problem the Nets’ big have–lack of athleticism and defensive presence.

  • PETE B

    I think lins shot is better bc hes not so bulked up ss last year

  • psalm234

    Knicks waive Lou Amundson, four others to keep Ron Baker

    Baker would be the 3rd-string PG to back up DRose and Jennings.
    Baker tried to play Lin tough last night & almost caused injury.
    Lin needs to be careful if the youngster tried to prove himself next time.

    But 6’9″ PF Admundson might help the Nets with rebounding dept but he’s 33
    https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/789557933692465153

  • TVN

    Brook is part Cuban, not African American.

  • sws94

    Throw them away. That’s what Lin said in his post-game interview. He even mentioned last season he had great preseason numbers and didn’t start the season well. The real numbers and real season begins Wednesday where Lin will face much more competitive schemes designed to stop him. I’m feeling good about him, and hopefully his preseason form will continue into the regular season.

  • PETE B

    Harden mda is something i like

  • sws94

    Chalmers probably wouldn’t want to back Lin up and I don’t know if he’s a high-character guy.

  • Derek Kong

    I remember somewhere that Lou and Jeremy go way back. He was a member of their bible study during Linsanity. They need to waive someone though – who would they realistically waive I don’t know. They love Bennett too much.

  • sws94

    It’s preseason. Coaches don’t play preseason to win or lose. Let’s hope for better results as the regular season gets underway. Fingers crossed.

  • PETE B

    This freaking team needs to man up and fight for wins its not going to be easy i can tell u that

  • PETE B

    Is lin injured im hoping that. He s ok

  • heart

    Baker was undrafted from Wichita State in 2016. Knicks probably liked how he tailed Lin tightly last night and wanted to use him to bother Lin during regular season. Don’t like what he did to Lin last night!

  • psalm234

    good point, there isn’t much space in the roster
    23-yr old Bennet is a reclamation project being ex-#1 draft pick

    PF depth are Booker/Scola/JHam/Bennet/McCullough

    Defense and rebounding is the critical need. I just looked at the preseason stats, it’s pretty bad the Nets are close to the bottom

  • psalm234

    Lin is going to a podcast in New Jersey with Randy Foye
    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/789562437997432832

  • MEL LIN

    i would waive bennett and Vasquez and pick up lou and mo williams. They are older but they are way better.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy is arranging to have 200 middle-school students attend a game …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/789561954335621121

  • MEL LIN

    yeah can they waive bennet ??

  • KHuang

    Blake would help – as long as Atkinson played him over Vasquez.

    The other players – including my man Tyler Hansbrough – would not help because Vasquez’s utter lazy indifference on both ends of the court is messing up the entire Nets team and not just the bench.

  • KHuang

    The defense and rebounds are sour because Foye and Vasquez and RHJ got murdered as usual.

  • KHuang

    Less Foye, less Vasquez.

    That alone will help the Nets win much more.

  • grover chang

    Lin is such a good guy.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Sooo much traffic going to NJ from Brooklyn on a Friday rainy afternoon during rush hour. Now wonder he’s snapchatting.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Wow. Jericho is like my next door neighbor. I asked the Nets about bringing middle school kids from the school where I am a PTA president. There’s 900 kids in that school. Perhaps, I need to have the kids use JLin as incentive and work on “mutual respect” project and twit him. Wheels turning . . .

  • psalm234

    Nets gave AB $2.1M/2yr contract so they would at least want to see if he can compete in the regular season, or until Feb trade deadline

  • I am The Jason

    Blake is slower than Vasquez. The Nets shouldn’t even be looking his way.

  • MEL LIN

    the answer is no. Just waive him and give him 2 million.

  • psalm234

    Both haven’t played quite well in the preseason but Foye is the only one other than Lin to be a threat to attack the rim.
    He somewhat helped the 2nd team to play better by giving more space for the shooters last night. Harris is good but not off-the-dribble to create as a playmaker. He still needs PG so he can make cuts or shoot 3s.

    Who else other than Foye and Lin can be a threat to penetrate?
    And Whitehead is not ready to be a backup PG, Vasquez is still the best backup PG although he seemed slow.
    He started hitting 3s last night (1-2); another one was waived for stepping out-of-bounds.

  • psalm234

    Isaiah Whitehead shared the nice personalized headset that JLin provided for teammates?
    That’s one good and generous leader there!

    @IsaiahW_15: Big Bro Looked Out 🙌🏿🔥 @JLin7
    https://twitter.com/IsaiahW_15/status/789563416809791490

  • aggressiveplayer

    Wow, Jeremy Lin is an amazing leader. I want to add the f word in front of leader as an adjective for extra emphasis but I know it’s against the rules, haha

  • psalm234

    haha.. f for fun is okay 🙂

  • grover chang

    Lin one of the best teammates. Good influence on the younger players.

  • ProLin

    well he is a millionaire these things are not too expensive. QBs in NFL buys his linemen Rolex gold watches.

  • aggressiveplayer

    It’s not expensive but it’s the thought that counts. Rolex watches are also a bit too much in my opinion.

  • ProLin

    no it’s great, it’s what vets and team leader should do. JLin is just showing he’s true leader of the team. Notice the young guys are calling him big bro a lot.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    too much pushing and shuffling. Those should be called.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea I’m really liking JLin as the leader of the team much more than just a bench player.

  • CJSHYY
  • Sundown

    Great editing on those highlights.

  • grover chang

    Love it! Not just the Nets but “Jeremy Lin and the reloaded Nets.” Lin gets top billing.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! He finally has his own team now. Haha!

  • KHuang

    Vasquez flat out stinks, he’s getting murdered because of his disinterested lazy play, he’s dragging the whole team down with him, he has not earned the right to play, he’ll likely retire midseason due to injury anyway.

    Foye has never been an effective basketball penetrator (or guard for that matter) in the NBA even when he was younger. And now that he’s older, he’s even less effective.

    Cutting Yogi Ferrell will badly hurt the Nets because he was the only effective PG other than Lin.

    If I were the Nets coach, I’d figure out a way to platoon Lin’s minutes such that Foye and Vasquez alternate playing bench minutes for brief spells. That way, Lin would keep both the Nets bench and starters alive through whole game but still get rest when needed.

  • KHuang

    But Baker, like the rest of the NBA, had absolutely no success in even slowing down Lin let alone stopping Lin.

    Even the double and triple teams had no effect on Lin.

  • KHuang

    It’s not because of that.

    It’s because Lin’s actually being looked to by his teammates for shooting, though Kenny Atkinson keeps trying to prevent Lin from shooting.

  • KHuang

    NOBODY is slower than Vasquez.

    Vasquez, he’s not even trying out there. He’s in the wrong defensive posture (standing straight up), he’s giving up when he’s routinely beaten off the dribble, he’s not driving the ball.

    At least Steve Blake will give an all out effort while also being much physically healthier than the broken down Vasquez.

  • psalm234

    Top +/- leader for Brooklyn #Nets in 2016-17 preseason
    1 @JLin7 +4.2
    2 Foye +3.6
    3 Ferrel +0.7
    4 Brook -0.4
    5 JHam -1.4
    min 2 gms @nbastats
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/789624971832143872

  • Pistolpete

    Nets got killed by Knicks backup big man O’Quinn yesterday in the 3rd Q. They desperately need a big who can play defense for the 2nd unit. They have a glut of shooters who are not good at defense such as SKil, Harris, Bojan. Maybe they can make a trade.

  • psalm234

    Bottom 5 of +/- are:
    1 Jorge -10
    2 Bogdanovic -9.2
    3 Vasquez -8.4
    4 Scola -6.4
    5 Kilpatrick -6.3

  • KHuang

    It’s not the Nets big men that are the problem.

    It’s GREIVIS VASQUEZ playing no defense and standing around disinterested like he’s a James Harden wannabe.

    An unskilled big man like O’Quinn doesn’t get shots and rebounds and paint position without the Nets big men being constantly forced out of position to cover Vasquez’s man when Vasquez lazily lets opposing point guards penetrate into the paint. Kyle O’Quinn is not THAT good.

    Simply benching Vasquez out of the rotation for being an unmotivated lazy defender who also refuses to drive to the rim on offense, that would COMPLETELY SOLVE the Nets bench defense by itself.

  • blueCypher

    Great that Lin played very well in the preseason. It is a good indication that he is ready. But as he said we can “throw that out the window” . Only a few days until the real thing starts 🙂

  • Pistolpete

    Vasquez did a good job running the offense yesterday – 8 assists in limited minutes but got killed by Jennings on defense. Why don’t the Nets have Vaquez guard the shooting guard instead of a lightning fast Jennings? Vasquez is 6’6″ so he has the height. I looked at a replay of the game and O’Quin killed the Nets in other ways not just the penetration of Jennings. They definitely need an athletic big for defense and rebounding. What if Booker or Brook gets hurt? Scola is old, Hamilton can’t play defense and Bennet is just bad. No depth up front but they have a ton of shooting guard/small forwards.

    Also why on earth is Foye starting?? I hope that experiment ends soon! Should be Bojan or Harris. They’re running a 3 point office with only one starter who can make a decent percentage.

  • heart

    In the past seasons, we saw some have stopped Lin by tripping him, pulling his hair, upper cutting his face, snapping or hitting his head backward, etc. And you saw what Baker did to Lin last night…

  • Ace Pagoda

    If Marks and KA are as smart as some make them out to be I have to believe they are looking ahead. Preseason is over, KA did what he did. He and Marks know their limitations. They will now go into the regular season to see how BKN plays real basketball. With their cap space they can keep an eye open for good players from teams who will be early losers (Charlotte and JLamb?) who want to dump salary (JLamb $7M). JLamb would be great with JLin and now you can let go Foye and Bojan because Harris would make a very capable #2 SG. I like Tyler Hansbrough too who can be had now for almost nothing. Imagine him and Brook in the middle- talk about clogging it up with big bodies! Or Tyler and Hamilton.But unless Vasquez has been “resting” during the preseason on purpose backup PG will be a real problem because the bench will squander any lead the starters can build. There is absolutely no dynamic to the BKN bench w/o Jlin

  • ViNuyork

    don’t use barclay parking….expensive..check parkwhiz.com ..or…. if you have the patience to drive around the residential neighborhood and willing to walk 3-5 blocks, then you might find free parking…we were able to find free parking

  • Ace Pagoda

    This is why teams need an enforcer who will enforce. Psycho T could fit that description and I think be a better, more productive PF than Booker, Scola or Bennett. Don’t forget at Indy he was a double-double nightly.

  • ViNuyork

    we noticed inside the brcley center that dat blondy dude was quite aggressive…he was physically hustling JLin everytime he was guarding him

  • Ace Pagoda

    If it is true that KA is keeping JLin from shooting then KA is as wrong as any of the previous coaches except MDA. When JLin is in and playing his game great things happen. When he plays to the motion offense it plays into the other teams hands. One has to accept that JLin is almost a genius at playing basketball and smarter than any of his coaches thus far except MDA who belatedly was forced to recognize Jin’s genius.

  • Ace Pagoda

    I would love Psycho T too. It wasn’t long ago he was a 20-2- machine for Indy and he would bring needed toughness to the team, toughness which only JLin thus far has exhibited.

  • norah mackenzie

    foye is worth it – he has heart and can manage the court – vasquez sd be dumped for good cos he is no asset

  • norah mackenzie

    harris or foye

  • norah mackenzie

    and he has a beard which makes it worse –

  • norah mackenzie

    i think it is a wonderful idea to get harden to play PG – for other teams

  • norah mackenzie

    they have to do their best

  • Vincent

    wow unbelievable! finally we have been waiting for this.. win or lose lin will have a phenomenal year..

  • sport

    Dwight did that with the Rockets, giving a Rolex to all the players including Lin.

  • grover chang

    MDAs great trait is being a big enough man to want Lin to take over.

  • sport

    So it was Baker? Not surprised by Knicks trying to keep a guy who almost injured Lin! Hope his knee is fine and next time Lin needs to play smarter and be careful. He’s finally got his own team, need to stay healthy for all 3 seasons.

  • Steppen03

    And on one of the biggest stage… To think some of us were considering The Sixers not too long ago… Yeah, The Nets!!!

  • Steppen03

    Yeah, but what’s DH’s salary compared to JL7’s – it’s day and night.

  • Yura

    Then who will replace them?

  • spiderman

    Actually Tyler would help much in rebounding and defense. He also sets good screens

  • spiderman

    Lol

  • psalm234

    @WojVerticalNBA
    Sources: Houston guard Patrick Beverley will undergo a minor surgical scope on his left knee early next week. He’s expected to miss 3 weeks.
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/789685301216239616

  • Arsenium12 .

    In the last 3 seasons, Beverley didn’t play in 63 of the regular season games.

    In two of the seasons he didn’t play in 26 games, and in one he didn’t play in 11. That’s a lot of down-time.

  • Barry Allen

    Who is going to bring them water now? 🙁 Get better soon Bev, they need you!

  • psalm234

    his reckless brand of defensive style might be catching up to him.
    it looked good but is not necessarily very effective

  • joy

    Wow! That’s so nice of him. I assume this would be the first project in NY held by his foundation. He almost started his foundation in NY and run by his sister-in law if Knicks offered him a contract in 2012.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Having Vasquez guard the SG is a good idea…..He’s way too slow to guard quick PG.

  • KHuang

    If Vasquez guarded the shooting guard, it would still result in the Nets getting killed defensively because Vasquez wouldn’t even try to defend the 2 guard anyway.

  • KHuang

    Nobody likes Tyler Hansbrough more than I do.

    But he wouldn’t fit because:

    1) Vasquez’s utter refusal to play defense would still get Hansbrough burned from having to also guard Vasquez’s man

    2) Atkinson would hate Hansbrough for scoring too much and playing too aggressively.

  • KHuang

    Lin will.

    Platoon Foye and Vasquez against each other as backup 1

  • KHuang

    Physically overmatched in the NBA.

  • Derek Kong

    Father is black but from Cuba. Look it up

  • Derek Kong

    He is half black (Cuban African father).

  • aggressiveplayer

    I don’t know if you guys remember, but a while back there was an ESPN article saying we had one of the league’s toughest schedules. I think our schedule might be tough but I just checked. We only have 14 back to back games. This is the fewest you can possibly get which is good because back to backs raise the potential for injury. We don’t want our players injured. On the flip side of things, we don’t get as many 2-3 days rest which can be exhausting for the team and cause us to play poorly later in the season. Thoughts?

  • blueCypher

    What is their criteria for a bad schedule ?

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think they look at opponents played, number of back to backs, number of 2-3 days rest, travel time, etc.

  • blueCypher

    Looking at last season’s preseason standings , the Cavs were 1-7 and Mavs 0-7 . Both made the playoffs .

  • psalm234

    watch the highlights & steal on Melo from a different angle

    @BballCrazy: No one wanted to give it to him, so he took it! #Respect
    Jeremy Lin #Nets

    #BballCrazy 💥↗️
    Song #BballCrazy via Spotify “Calvin Terrel”
    https://twitter.com/BballCrazy/status/789656577896656896

  • CJSHYY

    I like this highlight too.

  • psalm234

    @uuords: Jeremy Lin has thrown some slick passes this preseason
    https://twitter.com/uuords/status/789540633769873408

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think we’re in a different situation than them though. We’re rebuilding, they’re not. Also, how much did their starters actually play?

  • grover chang

    Bird has the best quote on schedules. A reporter asked him about their tough schedule. He picked the schedule up, looked at it, and said, “41 home games and 41 away games. Seems fair to me.” LOL

  • psalm234

    I still have a glimpse of hope since I remembered how good Vasquez can be when he’s healthy. IMO the Nets might give him time 3-4 months until the Feb trade deadline

  • psalm234

    being a bubble to be waived, I’m sure he wanted to make an impression to stay in the team. But that one play was dangerous

  • aggressiveplayer

    Haha funny way to look at it but all schedules were not created equal sadly =/

  • Win

    Couldn’t agreed more.

  • blueCypher

    Point taken. Although i think the nets can overahieve like the mavs did

  • psalm234

    Some said the Nets potentially has the toughest schedule but this is an interesting chart on how often an NBA team gets more rest than the opponent. The Nets is ranked #6 with 27 games more rest, 23 less, 32 even

    ‏@bbdoolittle This is one of the favorite charts from my NBA schedule parser.
    How often does each team play with more or less rest than an opponent?
    https://twitter.com/bbdoolittle/status/763886410772262912

  • guest

    Not sure if we are going to see much PnR. In 2nd quarter with 4:40 left, Lin came off a pick with Scola and shot a jumper that he missed. Kenny raised his hands in disbelief and turned back to one of the other coaches. They’ll review it, but I don’t think Kenny likes that the of play. He prefers Lin to pass the ball.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Dam, that’s great news to hear then. I don’t think the Net’s schedule is too bad at all anymore.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Just went to find a video of this. Hmm it’s hard to say what exactly he’s upset about and why. But based on his comments it probably is because he didn’t pass the ball. It looks like Bojan was wide open. Not sure why coach had that expression though off one bad play.

  • hchao

    Out of the 2 million only $1,015,696 is guaranteed, so I believe if they cut AB they only need to give him $1,015,696.

  • guest

    Yeah, Lin had an open shot, unless Atkinson would have preferred the possible three.

  • guest

    Any update on Caris Levert? He may be the missing piece!!

  • aggressiveplayer

    Actually it wasn’t really an open shot for him. I mean it was a doable shot but not a good or great shot.

  • Vincent

    It doesnt make sense man his teammates missed wide open shots all night

  • Barry Allen
  • joy

    Lets look at Lin’s 8 TOs in last night’s game. 2&3 s/b fouls by the opponent.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_jgVauGsoOk

  • Guest

    We will hear from Mc Hale: Jeremy is still playing wild and reckless

  • Arsenium12 .
  • joy
  • Arsenium12 .

    [Joe] Harris [has] “been training camp’s most pleasant surprise in the eyes of Kenny Atkinson, showing up a shooter’s confidence, an ideal quality in the head coach’s motion offense.”
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/789822148424728576

  • BobbyH

    Thanks

  • Ace Pagoda

    Your arguments don’t take anything away from the value of TH but they do point to a blind spot in KA coaching. KA would rather go against his strong defense philosophy by allowing Vasquez to be a weak link. The opposite of TH scoring too much and playing too aggressively would be not scoring at all and being passive- not a winning way. Early on it seems KA, like other coaches, wants to do things “his way”. If and when “his way” fails we have to hope that he will grow like his players and find the “right way” (winning) to play. From what I have seen when JLin runs the team on the floor his ways good things happen. When he runs the coaches preferred motion offense his talent is diluted and the team suffers. I figure if KA is indeed a good and smart coach and BKN does poorly in the first 20 games then he makes the necessary adjustments and BKN can be all it can be. The way he is using Lopez to this point seems to be diluting Lopez’ talent and the NBA is all about talent. We did not get a chance to see it in Charlotte but I think TH/JLin pnr would be a winner.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Magic Johnson played wild and reckless. This is what set the other team back on its heels.

  • grover chang

    Love to see this guy as the starting shooting guard. Foye could be the point guard for the bench.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Sundown

    Great interview with Lin. And great fashion choice by interviewer.

  • grover chang

    What’s wrong with Blake? He would seem a good addition to not only Nets but a lot of teams at pg.

  • occupatio

    vasquez has been trash.

  • heart

    I saw glimpses of TH & JL pnr whenever Cliff gives TH some PT. TH knows where and when to roll to catch Lin’s pass. TH can also shoot 3s and rebound. Hopefully, a team would sign him if not Nets.

  • heart

    In my eyes, PB’s defensive style is like window dressing. It’s his reputation that was promoted by Rox/McHale/Morey that had elevated his stature in the League. So he acts the part. An astute player who examines Bev’s moves carefully can out hustle him on the floor. Just watch their knees in the process!

  • sws94

    Anyone know why the Hornets play 8 preseason games and the Nets 6? The Nets could use another preseason game or 2 imo.

  • Arsenium12 .

    I’m not sure why he couldn’t catch on with another team. I saw an article from Fox Sports Australia saying that he was “holding out for another season in the NBA” and that he “scrimmaged with the Portland Trail Blazers before training camp began, and was even open to taking a coaching job.”

    He’s going to be 37 next February. Maybe that was a factor.

    See : http://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nbl/nbl-nba-veteran-steve-blake-signs-with-sydney-kings-as-import-player/news-story/643da3541a97a7210f60c446dbef1c05

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think it’s randomly 6-8. I also think 6 is a good amount. Although more time on the court is better, I hear 8 games is harder manage because guys have less time to practice.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Like I said, it’s hard to know what exactly Kenny is thinking. Maybe he was upset Jeremy wasted possessions that could have been used to practice motion offense. I don’t know, but let’s not jump to conclusions.

  • Acbc

    I just cannot understand how obsessed some fans are about winning. It’s not all it’s made out to be. The prime example is Harden and Morey. These guys are exactly why trying for wins without the rest of the team is not good for team building. Why Houston will never amount to anything but a regular season team.

    Do we really want Lin to be the Harden of Nets? Will it mean anything by the team feeding him the ball for 35-40 minutes per game and scoring 30-40 points while everyone else stands around and wait for scraps. They can win just like Houston does but also lose just as Houston does when it counts the most. You cannot create a team culture if support players are allowed to lose their skills from atrophy. Sure, Lin can play like that and win but for how long? He could injure himself and the Nets would be in much more dire straights.

    For goodness sake, Atkinson is not some socialist trying to bring the Nets down by playing down to the lowest common denominator. Marks and Atkinson is building a solid foundation that supports the top players. It’s like a pyramid of multiple layers of talent all playing up to their own potentials. Unlike Morey and harden, they build a towering single penthouse sitting on stilts with no foundation. That’s why they fall every year when typhoon ends season hits.

    LOOK AT POP AND HOW HE MANAGES RESOURCES! He is the best because he understands what it means to win and to PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME TO WIN. By developing his strong bench, he was able to conserve his Stars energy. He deliberately toss away BTB games by sitting all the stars, who does that! It takes effort, time, patience and most importantly FAITH.

    The toughest part of the equation is that fans, sponsors and even players want to win. Asking them to be patient is like taking a soother out of a baby’s mouth. They hate losing. Trust me, coaches hate losing too. They don’t get to that level by being BS.

    I gave Clifford till Christmas last year to prove me right and he failed like all the other coaches for Lin. So far, what we’ve seen is like night and day difference and Lin is respected and treated as a team leader. Let’s all focus on the positive and have a little faith. I’m going to watch this season with my fingers crossed till the trade deadline.

    The best example I have is my favourite tennis player of all time, Justine Henin. She is a 7 times grandslam champion and she stands at no more than 5’6″ tall. In order for her to beat the big babes of grandslam champions, she had to go big or go home. It was so frustrating to see her lose to weak low rank players by over hitting when a safe shot would have done it during her first few years on tour. It was only later when she started to beat all the big babes of tennis that I realized how and why she played the way she did.

    Henin had to played very close to the edge in order to compete with girls that were bigger and stronger than she was. It took many years for her to learn to control that edge. It took real guts to lose by throwing away matches while over hitting. She taught me that her size was no excuse to accept anything less than being a grandslam champion. She forced herself to be the most mentally tough clutch player out there. She forced herself to become the most fearless in tight moments to go for her shot. SHE GAMBLED ON HERSELF BY PAYING THE SHORT TERM PRICE OF LOSSES.

    In a way, Steff Curry is a little like that. He’s not especially fast or athletic. He was not a great jumper or tough or even quick. He was not going to beat the likes of Lebron or Duncan with the level of his physical gifts. To beat them he had to change the game and made those big guys come outside to play his game. Curry created the deadliest and quickest shot, a stroke so accurate and dependable that he could shoot from anywhere. He couldn’t attack the rim the way Russell Westbrook or Lin can so he created his own way. Curry has changed the game by making it a must for all players to be as good a shooter as he is. It took him time to become that player.

    Was it worthwhile for Lin to change his shot with Doc? It’s now finally paying off some dividends.

    There are athletes that wants to win. These athletes could played badly (like Harden usually does) and still win if the opponents are playing slightly worst than they are. Then there are athletes that wants to become the very best. They build themselves up to beat the very best and takes no short cuts to it. They are never satisfied by wins. They are only satisfied with process. Wins are merely markers of that process.

    The Nets can win easily 35-40 games by just riding Lin and Lopez. BUT they will never be any better for next year in terms of beating the Cavs. To beat the Cavs, they need a very strong bench. Marks and Atkinson is gambling on the future and betting on his players to improve to become like “Bench force Lin”. IMO, it’s a future well worth paying the short term pain for.

  • Steppen03

    You NEVER know what this JLin-led team can do… 30-50 wins – depends on players breaking out. I will bet on 40 wins.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Thank you!!! This is a breath of fresh air after reading all the negativity recently. Winning now is NOT the priority, we have to BUILD. We all know this is a big year for Lin and we’re tired of everyone putting him down but we HAVE to be patient. We’ll be successful eventually.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yes, but the priority isn’t to win now. This is why Atkinson isn’t just going let Lin unleash all day. Other guys need a chance. He’ll get his time, but we’re working on different things to help improve our game. We’re building for the future and I feel like a lot of people here fail to understand that.

  • Steppen03

    Honestly, we shouldn’t hate on the guy… He was a good teammate of JLin7. My hate reserves for Morey/McHale – the puppet masters. This Will be the LAST time I going to bring them up. It’s NOT worth my time mentioning them. Focus on this season and future.

  • occupatio

    it is decided by the club i believe.

  • Steppen03

    I BEG to DIFFER. KA don’t care about the preseason losses – why should he ?? why should we ?? That’s NOT going to happen in the regular season. The Nets cannot tank. The Nets can only compete real hard every single game and take it from there. “Players development or Rebuilding” means Make Players play Above their capabilities or projected capabilities. It Is about Losing games.

  • Steppen03

    It is NOT about losing games.
    We should know about our boy better. JLin7 didn’t signed up to lose games and have a mediocre season. Where’s the excitement in that ? for the Nets franchise ? for the players’ pride ? We cannot just “all talk” and NOT walk the talk. Players development is Only good IF they Win games. Losing is Not fun for everybody!

  • Steppen03

    If they go out there and leave everything on the court and end up with only 20 wins then so be it. I will take it! Developing players is not about telling them to go out there and play Soft OR giving them a pass for losing games. Marks/KA want to see progress – and that “progress” should only means WINS.

  • blueCypher

    I think it does not really matter. They are not seeing the actual defenses and intensity anyways. I think they should shorten the preseason and stretch out the regular season so there is no back to backs and such.

  • Steppen03

    That’s TRUE. But what’s true for this Nets Team ?? Will all players (besides JLin, RHJ ) be back the next season ?? What’s truth in there ?? These vets have a lot mileage in them – Scola, Foye, Greivis – I doubt that they’ll be back next season. Winning Now is Not A Negative thing. It Is Negative because people Don’t think we can win. And I’m talking about playoff bound Not title bound – BIG difference. The Rockets’ into Title bound.

  • psalm234

    FYI I’m working to release an article with analysis of Brooklyn Nets preseason stats ranking, specifically on the starters and reserves. What’s the good and the bad? It’s very fascinating results 🙂

    Just stay tuned 😃
    https://media0.giphy.com/media/wpoLqr5FT1sY0/200w_d.gif

  • Spot

    Reserves will not play 20 minutes in regular season. And if they can’t produce, they’ll be benched.

    I’m not worried.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I mean of course winning is good for the players confidence and things like that. But I’m just saying that we’re not focusing all our efforts on getting as many wins as we can. Winning is going to be a byproduct. If we see improvement and we win, great. If we don’t, that fine because we’re still improving.

    The focus is different. If we wanted to win as many games as possible this season, we’d probably utilize Lin and Brook by using isos and post ups for Brook and PnR for Lin. But we’re not trying to win as many games as possible, hence why we’re going with motion offense and helping other guys get a chance to shine as well. It’s a sacrifice and a balance. We’re building a foundation so we can win as many games as possible in the future.

  • aggressiveplayer

    What I think when people want to win now is that we should play our strengths and try to get to the playoffs. That’s NOT what we should do. We need to learn new things, improve and invest for the future by giving time to players to get used to playing a modern NBA style of offense and defense. If we just stick to what we’re good at (which is not NBA modern) and play that for the entire season and beyond, how good will we be in the future? The answer is not very. We’re going to get left behind in the dust. Rather, i’d just look at the season like this: if we get into the playoffs, great. If we don’t, that’s okay as long as we’re getting better every day.

    This is why I HIGHLY disagree with placing so much emphasis on winning now and trying to get into the playoffs.

  • aggressiveplayer

    May I ask what kind of stats?

  • Steppen03

    What strengths ?? Do we have enough strengths to carry us to 4th, 5th seed or 8th seed ?? If so, USE IT!

  • blueCypher

    First game is like the ultimate test for lin. Celtics have defensive minded guards and they are surely gonna trap him and try to get the ball out of his hands.

  • Steppen03

    Point Is: We have ZERO strength. That’s why people said what they see – the Nets – WORST team in the NBA, ranked 30th or 29th.

  • Steppen03

    The STRENGTH of this Nets team is Motion offense, free-flowing mixed with PnR mixed with some system. We don’t have enough talents (besides JLin7 and Brook) on this team to make playoffs. So, we have to create “talents” to make playoffs OR try to win as much as possible. Objective, of course, is the playoffs. If we’re a “good” team then we can try to get some talented players to join JL7.

  • Steppen03

    Yeah, they will try… My bet is on the Nets win. Will need a good Greivis for 10-15min.

  • grover chang

    I really hope you are right. I’m one of the loudest skeptics of KA during the preseason. My expectations were more of a traditional Lin led offense with high PNRs and shooters spaced out. Such a system to me would be playing to Lin and Brooks strengths which KA had alluded to earlier.

    He told Lin he would let Lin play his game. He also said he would play to his players strength. Over time he gives the air of the opposite where he seems dogmatic to make the players fit the system. I expect any system any coach throws out, Lin will adapt and produce. I have faith in Lin. I do not have faith in some of his teammates. A motion offense is like a read and react offense where everyone is a point guard. I’m not sure if all the players are smart enough to read or have the talent and skill to react on what they read.

    I also find this motion offense downright stupid to make Lopez play. You take the best player near the rim away from it and you also take your seven footer away for offensive rebounds. Lopez is the Nets only proven talent, and whatever “process” is going on here should have the coaching staff being considerate of Lopez.

    The comparison for wanting Lin ball to like wanting Harden ball is not a fair analogy. Harden ball is complete isolation with totally freezing other players out. Lin ball does have Lin at the center but he gets everyone touches and involved. And yes Lin ball means if Lin is out then the team will not do well, but given this roster that is any system KA chooses to use. A system is important but I don’t care if you have the smartest system in the league. Systems don’t win by themselves. You need talent. Lin’s talent is being used but Brooks is not.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Which is why we’re doing the latter. We don’t have enough talents so we’re trying to make talents. Winning as much as possible won’t necessarily help bring out talents.

  • Steppen03

    You can only create “talents” for so long. It’s NOT real talent. JLin7 is Real talent. PBev – is a one year “talent”. Why the Spurs have guys come and go … We develop them so they can be good this season – help win games. Not everybody is coming back the next season – unless this is a 50+ win team.

  • Steppen03

    Absolutely!
    KA is smart enough to make adjustments according to his best players. Motion offense is good. I have no problem with this system – because Both JL7 and Brook can thrive – just need more time. But I highly doubted that KA shut off the PnR… It will take some time. Again, we need to see for first 10 games. This offense is help others not named BrookLin.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think an important point to note, however, is that Lin’s performance is not all up to him. It’s also based on whether his teammates are in the right positions and are moving/cutting correctly, setting screens properly, etc.

    Also, I think a key guy to note is Avery Bradley. He is known to give even the best guards some trouble and I think the Celtics will place him on Lin which will be difficult to deal with. However, placing Bradley on Lin should create a mismatch for our SG to take advantage of theoretically.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I doubt Foye can take advantage of any defensive mismatch against Thomas and this will probably be an issue for the Nets. Celtics can hide Thomas by simply putting Bradley on Lin without paying any price of having Thomas guard a slightly taller Foye.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Brook Lopez has already said that at the moment, they’re trying to find the right balance between motion O, PnR, post-ups, etc. It’s going to take some time for these adjustments.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea those were my thoughts exactly as well, which is why I said theoretically. Too bad we don’t have a solid starting SG =/

  • aggressiveplayer

    Most likely the vets probably won’t be coming back next season. However, we are going to be developing guys like Whitehead, RHJ, Caris LeVert, Joe Harris and even Lopez and Lin some more. We’re not developing talents for GV, Scola or Foye for the long term.

  • blueCypher

    Avery bradley on lin is a sure bet. I thomas is too small. Looking at their roster they can put bradley , smart, green, rozier, maybe even rookie brown. All are athletic guards

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea, I think it’s going to be difficult for Lin and the Nets unless whoever is SG can step up and take advantage of Isaiah. I think Joe Harris or Bojan might be a better to start than Foye for this game.

  • Steppen03

    Then why are you keep implying that this is player development and not about wins ?? There’s nothing wrong with motion offense/PnR/others add in offense. Why did you say it’s not about winning now. It Is about winning now that Lopez has to change his game to compliment other players on the team. That’s the only way the team can win – everybody work together. And progress is measure by wins (or close to winning, being competitive). When you said it’s not about winning – you’re sending the wrong message because it implies not being competitive.

  • Steppen03

    It doesn’t matter. Look back at the Lakers game Vs Celtics… Honestly, JLin has seen and been through it all. They cannot stop him. Both can play the same card.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Everything you stated sound good and all and I don’t really disagree with it in general, but Don’t forget that Lin is 28, not 21, so he’s inside his prime and I’m sure he would like to win as soon as possible….

    The development and patience part of the equation when it comes to the Nets, may not benefit him that much…Years have been wasted on Houston, Lakers and Hornets as a bench player, so now, I’m sure Lin is anxious to finally get things rolling.

    If the Nets gets off to a terrible start, even if Lin is producing decent stats, the media will still blame it on Lin, for sure and how Brooklyn need to find someone else at PG.

    Lin, himself, is on a trial year…If he doesn’t do well enough and improves the Nets significantly from last year, Brooklyn might sign another PG next summer, when the PG market will be much deeper.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think you misunderstand the term winning now. Winning now, in our situation, means to focus a majority of our efforts at winning all the games. Development would therefore just be on the side and not a primary focus. We have it the other way around. Development is our primary focus, and winning is a byproduct.

    I think you’re just referring more to being competitive (and we will compete) as opposed to winning now. By your definition, every team that isn’t tanking should be “winning now.” But that’s not the case. Rebuilding teams like the TWolves and Bucks aren’t “winning now.” They’re trying to be develop like us, and they’ll also compete like us.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The one thing that I disagree with Atkinson so far is by not using a bit more of the preseason games to establish some early chemistry/rappor with Brook-Lin PnR.

    Even some in the media are puzzled by that and not having Brook play a bit more minutes alongside Lin to find out whether both players are even compatible running PnR….Some are even suggesting it could be that they really want to trade Lopez and are afraid he may get hurt thus bringing down his trade value a bit.

    after losing 5 straight, the one good news that I can take from this preseason games is that with Brook playing 30 minutes per game when regular season starts, that would diminish a bit, the playing time of Hamilton, Scola and Bennett, thus improving the inside defense and rebounding

  • aggressiveplayer

    To be honest I think there’s just not enough time to do so. We had to evaluate 20 guys, many of who are new. Also, Brook mentioned he was “very confident” in the PnR anyway, so I’m not too worried. It’s not too difficult of a thing to get.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The way I’d set it up is to start either Bojan or Harris and hide him by telling him to guard Jae Crowder….Than I would move RHJ on Bradley…Lin on Thomas….You don’t want Bogs or Harris guarding B radley.

    At that point, a 6’3 Bradley will have to guard a taller Bojan or RHJ who are both about 6’6/6’8…Bojan can post up a smaller Bradley and he could surely shoot over him easily….RHJ aggressiveness could also create a bit of a mismatch for Bradley there.

  • sws94

    I don’t know about Lin being in a trial year. I think Lin decided to go with KA, and have the responsibilities he has now in being a leader knowing that the team will take awhile to win. If Lin wanted to win over having more responsibilities and a bigger role on a team, he would have chosen a playoff contender but had a lesser role.

    I don’t think the media will blame the Nets woes solely on Lin. Maybe Lin, Lopez and KA will be given a “report card” by the media, but, that goes with the territory, especially in New York City.

  • sws94

    But, grover. KA wasn’t defined as having any system going in. That’s why we had to see what his system was before knowing what type of offense Lin would be part of. In the summer league, the offense looked like a Spurs/Atlanta Hawks hybrid. In preseason, it still looks that way but Lin said other things would be mixed in. Lopez said they are practicing the motion offense with other things and looking for a balance. KA doesn’t want to be predictable and overly reliant on Lin and Lopez (although it may turn out he may need to be).

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yea I’d do this exactly too. We’ll see what Kenny does on Wednesday.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lin is 28…that is the HUGE caveat here..All these talks about development and being patience, would had been fine if Lin was 21-24.

    Brooklyn doesn’t have its top draft pick, for the next 2 years, so they have to go for it…If they were so h*** bent of being patient and culture, might as well play some young kids instead of Vasquez/Foye/Scola…See what you have in the kids if you don’t want to prioritize winning now.

    So the whole thing makes absolutely no sense when I hear people talk about development and culture and how winning is not important…..Go tell that to Lin….Lin will never say he wants to win now, but privately, he probably will try his best to carry this team because he knows he will take heavy hits from the media if this Brooklyn team stinks.

  • sws94

    I don’t know about a Nets win. Celtics are a top East playoff team, they play well together, have more collective talent and this game counts. I want to see a competitive game, and it would be great if the Nets get an opening day victory over such an opponent, but I expect the Celtics to not take the Nets lightly and they may even take the approach of let Lopez and Lin get there points, but shut down everyone else. It’ll be interesting to see how their coach plays the game.

    Also, Lin needs to not get in foul trouble. The last game they played, Lin had too many fouls.

  • sws94

    Lin handles Bradley’s pressure well from games I remember. Longer, taller defenders, like K. Leonard, give him problems.

  • Steppen03

    I’ll stand on: JL7 will carry the team to victory. He’s as dynamic as “LBJ or Magic” if there’s an “opening”. We shall see.

  • Win

    We have a big hole on our bigs, none can rebound or defense well.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lin wanted to start and win… unfortunately, he couldn’t find such a team, so obviously, he understood he needed to establish himself first as a starter….From my understanding, he did consider the Pelicans, but probably understood he was unlikely to start there.

    Lin may accept the fact that this NETS team may not be good enough to win much this year, but I’m convince he ill try everything in his power to win games and defy expectation…That would be huge for him if he could get Brooklyn to win more games than expected or even make the 8th spot of the playoff, which is not too farfetch.

  • blueCypher

    Ya. I only have faith in booker in rebounding . They get killed on the boards

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yes, Lin is 28 and we all want him to win as much as he can and as soon as he can because these are his prime years, but he’s just not in the situation to do so.

    The Nets still are h*** bent of being patient and culture. The reason why those vets were signed is because the youngins need veterans to help guide and teach them.

    No one said winning isn’t important, it’s pretty important. Like I keep saying, winning is going to have to be a byproduct. As much as Lin wants to win, right now there’s still a priority on development. He can still prove his worth this season and try to carry as hard as possible though.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I haven’t really paid too much attention to Bradley vs Lin, but from what I can recall Lin can sort of handle it but he struggles a bit at the same time. And to be fair, Kawhi would give almost anyone problems.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    disagree…every other team can find some time for their key players to get their feet wet a bit….we’re talking about getting him to average what Lin averaged as for minutes, not 30mpg.

    But hey, I simply disagree with the way he used these games…Even members of the media were making noise about it, so it’s not the ridiculous claim that you want it to be seen.

  • blueCypher

    Lopez can only win out the rebounds that are coming to him, just on his size. He does not have active feet to be a beast rebounder

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Fully agree with everything you stated here…When Lin signed with the Nets, I was also under the assumption that Lin will finally play under a similar system that he did during Linsanity and than we started hearing how Kenny don’t want to do too much PnR.

    Kenny rhetorics reminds me a lot of Byron Scotts talking point about not wanting to run too many PnR and that Lin would have to live with less of that…That always surprised me since Lin’s strenhg was PnR, yet the coach is going out there saying he doesn’t want to run it much.

    The good news is that Lin is more versatile and rounded player now, and while the system is not built to make use of his strength, Lin has still looked good….Let’s hope this continues during the regular season.

  • Steppen03

    Ok. But still, I will keep saying winning now – because I believe the Nets can make it to postseason. So, win now! Haha…

  • sws94

    Yeah, his competitive will can drive him to try to win as many games as possible. I mean, he was really trying to win that last preseason game. It’s just Lin and Lopez aren’t quite enough to beat most teams. But maybe a Harris can emerge, and Lin can find ways to get RHJ or Skil going. Problem is defense, rebounding.

  • sws94

    The team can score. The defense is the issue. And rebounding.

  • psalm234

    new thread/article
    http://www.jlinportal.com/ranking-nets-16-17-preseason-stats/
    Note: Also introducing new STATS page where you can dynamically sort stats http://www.jlinportal.com/stats/

    2016-17 Preseason Stats: “Ranking The Good & the Bad of Brooklyn #Nets”
    Hint: starters are 👍in shooting, REB is 👍
    http://www.jlinportal.com/ranking-nets-16-17-preseason-stats/
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/789987035410862080

  • sws94

    Absolutely, regarding Kawhi. But Lin just sort of outruns and stays strong against Bradley. Even getting him in foul trouble at times.

  • sws94

    I don’t now, it’s strange how Lopez was used and how little he played. I wonder if he has a slight injury. He’s had foot issues, planter facitis, and maybe the coach was just playing it safe with him.

  • aggressiveplayer

    That I’m not sure about and I agree that it’s a bit strange.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I really hope they fix their issues fast. The faster they fix it, the better chance we have of making it to the playoffs. I’m not expecting playoffs, but that’s where I can see them being if they improve as much as I expect them to.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    agree with you bro..I also don’t like all the talk of “winning is not the priority”..That sound like a cap out to accept losing..this is what all tanking team says, but problem is Brooklyn don’t even have their draft pick to make use of the tank.

    Again, if you don’t want to prioritize winning, than why not let Yogi, Whitehead and their other C and C level proper play..Let them get in the rotation instead of Vasquez, Scola, Foye…That’s what team who don’t to to prioritize win does..they do it to tank because they know these weaker players gives them a lesser chance to win.

    Win Now Please..At least, do everything possible to put this current roster in the best possible way to WIN!!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Well, he did remove all the starters on the final play to install Yogi and the second unit…that was bizarre, specially when you stated they were trying to win the last game, but yet, removing Lin and other starter who were able to make the game competitive in the final 4 minutes.

    That would had been a perfect moment to draw up a final shot for Lin or a 3 point shooter, so to get ready for the real thing in regular season…Instead, Yogi was in and Lin was out…I get Hamilton for Lopez since he’s a better 3 point shooter and you needed 3points, but don’t get Yogi for Lin.

    I guess that was the “development first instead of Win” stuff…Did we really had to see Yogi there?…Is that really going to help his development instead of suing this final play to set up the last shot for a key player.

    Don’t want to make a big deal out of it since it was a preseason game, but man, I will lose it if Kenny takes this approach into the regular season…All the talk about winning not being important is starting to irritate me.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    at the 1:27 minute mark of the video, Lin could had simply gone up for the lay-up instead of stopping and being called for a travel.

    You that clip alone, you could see why it’s so hard to keep Lin out of the lane…he gets very low and uses his shoulder well to boost his momentum ahead of the defender….If Lin had taking the last step and gone up for the lay-up, Melo would had not had a chance to block it.

    Stop the video at 1:27 and you could see the momentum Lin had created and space pen for the lay-up..Melo would had contested but Lin probably would had finished it and be fouled.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The second nit is shooting too many 3’s and that’s because you have too many shooters on the second unit while the first unit have too many guys who can’t shoot the 3’s……The way to fix that is to move one of your good 3 point shooter into the starting unit and have Foye play with the second unit.

  • psalm234

    yes, also because noone can drive consistently to the rim in the 2nd unit so they just ended up moving the ball around to shoot 3s, a lot of times well-covered so they didn’t hit good 3FG%

    On the other hand, Lin’s hot-shooting 3FG% at 50% made the starters to have the 3rd rank among all starters. That’s truly impressive. If they put Joe Harris at the starting lineup, it’s going to be such lethal weapon!

  • Acbc

    This is the part where faith comes in. As a coach, I work with someone to bring about a destiny they desire. To do that, they may have to ignore their strengths. ( as Sampras had to when he abandoned his best double backhand to work on tools he needed to win Wimbledon.)

    Do you remember last year when people were saying that Al Jefferson was useless as a PNR partner. So what that he wasn’t that great at it? He and Lin were a deadly pair. Yes, Clifford made sure to limit Lin’s scoring but talent was there to create the necessary chemistry to PNR.

    IMO, Atkinson has the utmost faith in the 2 most talented players on his team to work it out on the fly. It’s the weaker players that needs the most time and effort to get up to speed.

    The fact Atkinson put in the second unit to finish games is a deliberate attempt to forge some strength in their metal. Most of these guys never see the end game or have their hearts pounding while making split second decisions. One day, they may be needed for their own “Steve Kerr” moment.

  • TVN

    Father black Cuban, not “African-American”. I’ve known about Lopez since he was a sophomore at San Joaquin Memorial High in Fresno.