Preseason Game 3: Atlanta Hawks vs OKC Thunder

psalm234 October 7, 2018 Game Thread 77

Jeremy Lin (rest) is one of five Hawks players that will be out for the third preseason game. This could very well be part of the Return to Play protocol that he needs to follow in coming back from injury.

An @emoryhealthcare injury report for tomorrow's game:

Justin Anderson: Out
Dewayne Dedmon: Out
Daniel Hamilton: Out
John Collins (left ankle soreness): Out
Jeremy Lin (rest): Out pic.twitter.com/oJ4EwEhx2G

— Atlanta Hawks (@ATLHawks) October 6, 2018

77 Comments

1mtoldman October 7, 2018, 1:36 pm

virtually all veteran players on all teams are sat for “rest’ in one or more preseason ga mes regardless of “return to play protocol”.
sws94 October 7, 2018, 1:45 pm

It’s the smart thing to do. Lin will play in Wednesday’s game.
sport October 7, 2018, 1:46 pm

Hopefully it really is for rest. Hawks don’t look good either way. Just want Lin to get 18-20pts every game. Playoffs? Lol Unless Lin gives a Nash-like MVP performance, not a chance.

Really didn’t like JLin’s shooting form last game. Whenever he does the two arm flare instead of standard one hand up his shots don’t fall. The one hand up would’ve given those 3s the extra strength to go in.
HVJoy October 7, 2018, 2:33 pm

It may be good for Lin to get a “veteran rest” in this preseason game vs. the Thunder.

It is a pity that it is a game broadcast on the NBA TV. ☹️ This fan thinks it is always good for Lin to have more visibility.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/collins-lin-out-for-hawks-exhibition-against-thunder/4xgM5MEIOCp499w1V4NXaN/
linthezone October 7, 2018, 2:47 pm

Any chance you could give it a “rest”? 🙂
linthezone October 7, 2018, 2:51 pm

From these tweets, JLin seems to be relaxed. A bit relieved that is it truly for “rest”. (Personally, detest boxing and fights. Blood sports. There’s enough violence in the NBA. LOL.)

And good to know JLin is starting to bond with new teammates.

https://twitter.com/PopoChung7/status/1048867034187018240

https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/1048791045335666688
linthezone October 7, 2018, 2:52 pm

JLin’s tweet was from after Game 1. Glad he’s in a good place right now.

https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/1047227639113691136
sport October 7, 2018, 3:33 pm

Sorry for the negativity….just gets more depressing every year.
sws94 October 7, 2018, 4:13 pm

I’m not watching the game. I guess not many here are either.
InfiniteWisdom October 7, 2018, 5:22 pm

this team sucks. first quarter they actually looked pretty good. had the lead even. no westbrook of course but still… then from 2nd quarter on it was the same crap. more 3’s chucked this game but still mindless drives to the rim leading to poor offense. defense of course is a joke. it’s ugly to watch.
sws94 October 7, 2018, 7:52 pm

I hope things improve. But I think they won’t but so much. The Nets were far better.

This cements my opinion of I think Lin is much better off on a contender. He’s 30. He can help a contender go deeper into the playoffs for many years. If not, if he’s rent a Jeremy, let him do it on different contenders. I think of the Hawks team as his getting back to basketball with hopefully no major injuries season.
Mad Rantings of a Boiling Frog October 7, 2018, 11:34 pm

Luck Adjusted Net Ratings:

https://twitter.com/bbstats/status/1048204803149639681
Kwok Wai Lai October 8, 2018, 1:05 am

Lin will make his own destiny.
linthezone October 8, 2018, 1:08 am

Whoooosh! This went over my head….what is context? (Just see that the Hawks and Nets are about the same.)
linthezone October 8, 2018, 1:10 am

Sunday afternoon. No Lin. Maybe watch on LP later.
linthezone October 8, 2018, 1:19 am

Not seeing anything in the link? Did I miss something?

I was like 98% glad he was sitting this one out. OKC Steven Adams and Paul George can play mean, they tried to flatten Dinwiddie last year. Too soon for Lin to deal with those guys.

As far as visibility. The OKC game narrative was all about Dennis Schroder traded from Atlanta. And Trae Young’s return to where he played high school and college ball. So, this game wouldn’t have done anything for Lin anyway.

But there was 2% of me that felt that, IF LIN IS OKAY, he could use more minutes on the court to get back into the feel and rhythm of an NBA game. Even if at half-speed.
linthezone October 8, 2018, 1:29 am

Look at it this way. We weathered through not seeing Lin for a whole year. Instead, cheering for Joe Harris. We weathered through cheering for Watanabe in summer league. And then being mad about Lin getting traded.

But the fact that, after such a serious injury, Lin is even out there playing for a team. He’s NOT out of the League. He’s RUNNING, and dribbling a basketball, and making layups. That is amazing!

We just gotta hang in there a little longer. And see how it goes.
linthezone October 8, 2018, 2:12 am

Missed the game. Will try to catch it on LP later.

Here’s a re-post of a little bit of the offense that Lloyd Pierce said he wants to run.

“…We obviously want to get out and run and score before the defense gets set. So, we’re measuring everything with our first 3 steps…How quickly can we react to turnovers, makes, and misses….When we have to play in the half-court, it’s body and ball movement. I’m going to keep preaching body and ball movement….We want 3’s. We want the right 3’s. We want uncontested 3’s, we want corner 3’s, we want 3’s that are in the flow of what we’re trying to do.”

Serious question. What do you think is their problem? What should they do to improve?

Is it the system itself? Because that seems to be how most teams want to play these days. Or is it because of lack of talent to fit the system? Or just bad execution?

I think part of the problem is that they’ve got rookies and second year guys out there playing against established and experienced playoff caliber teams. (Pelicans, Grizzlies, Thunder.)

And they’ve got guys like Bembry, Dorsey, trying to make the rotation, so they’re playing for their stats.

It’s a very young team, and it’s pre-season. Last, but not least, they don’t have Lin at 100% out there.

Sounds like the Nets from the Brook-Lin season when Lin was out with his hamstrings. Once Lin came back as leader, things got more organized and they played better and started winning.

Well, like we already discussed in the previous thread. For Lin’s sake. He stays healthy. Gets good minutes on court. Plays great and leads. The Hawks give him respect and re-sign him. If not, he will try to find another team.
linthezone October 8, 2018, 2:18 am

Oh, and here’s what Kevin Chouinard said about Bembry. (Chouinard obviously hasn’t seen the healthy Lin play.)

“Bembry’s the fastest Hawk. I don’t want him easing up in transition because he doesn’t see bodies with him. Want him to attack, even 1-on-2 and trust that bodies are filling in behind him.”

https://twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/1049022602260430850
Mad Rantings of a Boiling Frog October 8, 2018, 9:36 am

I think that tweeter is just trying to determine how much of the difference between 1) actual team won loss record, and 2) projected wins based upon Net Rating is attributable to consistently explainable reasons (e. g. “clutchness?) vs. how much is due to truly random statistical noise (“luck”).
HVJoy October 8, 2018, 2:15 pm

How Gordon Hayward Got Assist From Jeremy Lin During Hardest Part Of Recovery

https://nesn.com/2018/10/how-gordon-hayward-got-assist-from-jeremy-lin-during-hardest-part-of-recovery/
donsmacau October 8, 2018, 3:44 pm

1. After 5 years of futility, Phoenix Suns owner fired his GM today, reportedly the last straw was inability to land starting quality Point Guard — sounds like the owner wants a winning team

2. Dejounte Murray starting PG San Antonio Spurs injured, out for season.

— and JLIN needs a new home. Please have your agent contact either team.

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Without JLIN in the lineup the Hawks registered 25 turnovers at OKC, ridiculous.

My thoughts: JLIN needs to be given complete control of the 2nd unit so that Atlanta’s Bench can dominate opposing teams on both offense and defense (ala BenchForceOne in CHA), if the bench plays well then Schlenk/L.Pierce must deal with the constant pressure and embarrassment of obvious tanking.
sport October 8, 2018, 8:29 pm

See! I knew I wasn’t crazy when I hoped for a JLinxHayward teamup! PGxPF and both are the nice guys of the league! Make it happen Hayward! JLin as PG, Irving at SG, and Hayward as PF!
sport October 8, 2018, 8:35 pm

Spurs yes, Suns no that’s a forever incompetent messed up franchise.
InfiniteWisdom October 8, 2018, 9:14 pm

it’s a little bit of everything you said. the system itself, or what they are trying to do is very much dantoni style moreyball. 3’s, layups, ft’s, fast pace, transition, etc.

BUT you have this team of rookies and young players that can’t REALLY shoot and are way too inexperienced to actually win games. it ends up looking very ugly.

there is motion or pnr to start the play but it invariably ends up in a drive into traffic. if it was curry and the defender goes under the screen, it’s a surefire 3. this team? not enough shooters to do that. trae maybe but he looks overwhelmed out there. they double him and he’s short so it’s a bad combo. he’s been mainly going for floaters or passing. he needs to learn how to chuck more 3’s if he can. if not, then he’ll bust. i personally think he needs lin to draw defenders away. the longer pierce doesnt allow this, the worse trae will play.

also even if their youth and athleticism allow them to get by their defender, they get to the rim and force things leading to bad shots, bad passes, TO’s, etc. they have no experience to do otherwise. bembry is the #1 offender here. absolute tunnel vision. poor bbiq.

all in all this is what a development tank looks like. they need to figure this out themselves on the floor. that’s why pierce doesnt care if they play bad. they need to learn. this does lin, baze, dedmon, etc no favors but they’re all trade bait anyways…
InfiniteWisdom October 8, 2018, 9:17 pm

bembry is the antithesis of team ball. i dont understand why people can’t see this. he’s horrible if you actually want to win… welp i guess i answered my own question….
Briiick October 8, 2018, 9:28 pm

Tanking, giving up winning for players’ training, giving up winning for the future…
These make managers’ job easier and last longer.
Acbc October 8, 2018, 11:08 pm

Btw, there’s a branch of mathematics that deals with randomness and chance. I bought a book about it recently in a used book store but I haven’t gotten around to read it yet. I bought it mainly becuase I was flipping pages and notice references to Daniel Kahneman, Nobel laureate and author of “Thinking fast and slow”. Baseball uses basic probability math to set up defences or match players. It would surprise me if they have a mathematician in their bullpen to study the randomness of chance to advance their win column.
Kwok Wai Lai October 8, 2018, 11:11 pm

Talents like Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, Jeremy Lin, Kawhi Leonard, Jokic etc don’t come from tanking.
linthezone October 9, 2018, 12:56 am

Okay, got it, I think. lol. Thanks.

So, when Dinwiddie hit that winning shot (a flip/chuck, hoping to draw foul) last year in Detroit, to me that was more luck. (no way to do it again if he tried?)

Vs. when Lin hit that winner in Toronto, that was clutch. (reproducible, skill under pressure.)
linthezone October 9, 2018, 1:02 am

Even if give Bembry benefit of the doubt, that he’s just following Hawks’ game plan to attack the defense (which is what Chouinard is implying). There is definitely an issue with Decision Making. Bemby doing a bad job of it so far.
linthezone October 9, 2018, 1:35 am

This is again where it reminds me of the Nets. Last year, they were 2nd in the league with 3PA, but 20th in 3P%. Just chucking 3’s but terrible at it. (Harris being the exception, and Crabbe better after all-stars.)

Believe it or not. Through this preseason Hawks (3 games), Nets (2 games), the Hawks are shooting more 3’s than the Nets, but are hitting a better %. Like Pierce said, their shot selection on 3’s have to be better. That may be part of what Trae Young has to learn.

Pierce seems to acknowledge the turnover problem. His quote after game 2.

I agree BBIQ is important. Experience will help improve. But, it’s an instinctive feel for the game, can’t always “learn” that. Lin’s BBIQ is up there.

When Lin gets back to play at a high level, he will definitely settle things down and it will be less chaotic. Like you said, if that makes Lin look good but becomes trade bait, so be it.

https://twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/1048408195402817541
linthezone October 9, 2018, 1:56 am

Those two days were horrible. Now, finally some acknowledgement, prompted by Hayward, of Lin’s injury and his recovery.

Many reports and stories about other players’ and their recoveries. (See Hayward and Cousins.) Not a word about Lin. I guess in a way, it’s better under the radar. As long as Lin stays well. (Why do they put the qualifier “veteran” in there? It somehow always sounds dismissive. But at least it’s not “journeyman guard”. LOL.)

Here’s Lin again showing his own empathy for Hayward. And despite all the publicity and how gruesome Hayward’s injury looked. Lin’s actual injury was medically much worse (from what I read).

https://twitter.com/linspiredinca/status/1048415120953552902
linthezone October 9, 2018, 1:58 am

Trivia. They almost played together. Hornets almost had Gordon (2014), the year before Lin signed.

“The Charlotte Hornets and restricted free agent Gordon Hayward have agreed to a four-year offer sheet at the projected maximum of $63 million that Hayward signed Thursday.”

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11193887/gordon-hayward-charlotte-hornets-agree-63-million-offer-sheet
linthezone October 9, 2018, 2:39 am

I’m all for JLin finding a new home, as long as he’s valued and respected, and allowed to play his game, and lead. Starting would be fantastic. On a team that wants to win would be fantastic. Is that asking for too much? LOL.

Don’t know enough about the Suns. I imagine @Psalm would have some thoughts on this. I know he has said in the past, (Sport too) that they’re just a bad organization.

Besides giving Devin Booker the max extension, will Lin have enough good players around him? Tyson still there. Just added Ariza and Ryan Anderson. Older guys. They also have a new head coach. Are they really ready to start winning?

The Spurs. Hmmmm. Also an old (age) team. With both Murray and Lonnie Walker (their 2018 draft pick) out for season, some Internet chatter saying they may tank, the way they did to draft Duncan, in order to get Zion Williamson. Will Popovich tank with Aldridge and DeRozan in their prime? And Rudy Gay? Will Lin ever get the ball back if he passes to one of these guys?

I don’t know. The Spurs had plenty of chances to get Lin, when he was healthy. As far as we know, never made a play to get him. Now? When he’s still recovering?

Don’t mean to put a damper on things. Just hoping Lin’s next stop, wherever it is, will be a happier and a more permanent one.
linthezone October 9, 2018, 3:07 am

Kevin Chouinard posted some Advanced Stats for the Hawks so far. He’s highlighting the Net Ratings.
I know I’m biased but IMO, stats in pre-season are meaningless. All kinds of different lineups and matchups between the team and opponents.

What I find interesting are the usage %. Not surprisingly, Young is the highest on the team. Followed by Collins and Bembry and Dorsey. Also check out his EFG and TS %.

Lin leads in pace. Which is what Pierce wants.

Again, it’s only pre-season. So, take with a lots of salt.

I’m also adding sortable link.

https://twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/1049458865765580800

https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=PACE&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Pre%20Season&TeamID=1610612737
linthezone October 9, 2018, 3:13 am

Lloyd Pierce making the guys work on improving defense. Teaching the rookie. Sounds like he means business. Surprised the Hawks released this. (Some shots of Lin mixed in.)

https://twitter.com/HawksOnFSSE/status/1049394051898859520
sport October 9, 2018, 6:44 am

Can still happen, though not sure how much weight Hayward has in terms of signing and starting players on his team.
Kwok Wai Lai October 9, 2018, 7:46 am

Most important of all, the team needs him.
MEL LIN October 9, 2018, 11:49 am

He needs to get out of Atlanta asap…..he is wasting his time there
zxcvb October 9, 2018, 2:16 pm

Pierce seems reasonable, but I agree that tanking will limit Jeremy’s role regardless.

Even if he comes off the bench in San Antonio, that’s a good place to be. Pop is a great coach and Lin will be part of a winning playoff team. Suns are a mess, but that’s probably where he’d get the most minutes.
zxcvb October 9, 2018, 2:22 pm

Lin’s next preseason game is against the Spurs. That could end up being an audition.
MEL LIN October 9, 2018, 2:33 pm

I am praying for Lin to get traded to a good team. Atlanta is horrible.
psalm234 October 9, 2018, 7:38 pm

Good article commenting that JLin’s absence in preseason game might have resulted in ATL committing 28 TOs

John Collins (left ankle soreness) and Jeremy Lin (rest) did not play and it was the latter’s absence that might have created what ended up being the biggest issue for the Hawks in the contest. Atlanta committed 28 turnovers which lead to 33 points on subsequent Thunder possessions. To put that in perspective, a team had 25 or more turnovers just 10 times all of last season.
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Having missed Friday’s game due to illness, Taurean Prince returned to the starting lineup and was solid in 29 minutes of action. He managed 13 points on ten shooting possessions. He added five rebounds and four assists.

With Lin being ruled out, Jaylen Adams got extended play as the backup point guard. He hit three of his five attempts from beyond the three-point line to accumulate nine points. But he struggled defensively in his effort to contain former Hawks’ point guard Dennis Schroder, who managed 20 points on 15 shooting possessions, as well as veteran backup Raymond Felton.
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https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2018/10/8/17949610/atlanta-hawks-preseason-oklahoma-city-thunder-defense-rebounding-trae-young-dennis-schroder-video
psalm234 October 9, 2018, 7:45 pm

yeah, the Hawks would feel like heaven compared to the Suns 🙂 so we should pass
It’s really a mess, GM getting fired, the organization not being forthcoming of what caused Devin Booker’s broken hand, the tanking, etc.

At least, the GM and the coach in the Hawks knew about JLin from their GSW days. The Suns won’t have anyone in JLin’s corner except for Tyson Chandler but he’s just one of the players.
Acbc October 9, 2018, 11:01 pm

I’m so tired of pinning our hopes on road signs and markers like these articles. We did that for so long with all of Lin’s past teams only to be disappointed by their ultimate actions. We might as well be reading tea leaves or chicken bones because that’s almost as accurate as any of our guesses. While I appreciate that they have good things to say about Lin, I’m so PTSD now that I will just wait to see what each day will bring for Lin. I’m sure Lin is doing the exact thing as well.
webattorney October 10, 2018, 1:00 am

Don’t see why Hawks needs to play motion offense when they have a PG who can control tempo and pass to open players. I always thought motion offense was ideal when all players can pass/score or the team Jason good PG who can control the team.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 1:17 am

Peachtreehoops. So far, tries to be objective on Lin analysis. My objection has been the generally wrong narrative about Lin’s defense.

Some other good solid analytical articles, using videos to support their points. Their articles lean more towards reporting Hawks news. More podcasts, and not so many written articles. Not much “click-bait”. (From this perspective, much much better than Nets Daily.)

But, I’m pretty sure JLinPortal has more posters than Peachtreehoops. It seems like always the few same commenters over there. Even less than At the Hive with the Hornets.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 1:22 am

Not saying Atlanta is ideal. I too hope it’s not another wasted year.

But, for now. This season. Which team do you think he should go to? And how should he get there?
linthezone October 10, 2018, 1:28 am

Know how you feel. Can’t trust front offices and agendas. Lin knows he can’t trust them either.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 1:51 am

Maybe it’s an “audition” for his health. But I’m not convinced that the Spurs would be ideal either. I don’t see Lin fitting with their current team/system. Aldridge, DeRozan, Gay. ISO players.

Like I posted earlier. As far as we know, the Spurs have never shown any interest in Lin. Not when he was fully healthy. Not when he was shutting down Tony Parker. Not when he was beating them. Maybe now, because they are desperate?

Let’s say Lin gets them to the playoffs. What happens next year? Patty Mills is still there. Murray comes back. Would the Spurs move Lin to 6th man, and really give him the same respect as they gave Ginobili?

Or will Lin end up being another rental? And have to move on to his TENTH team?
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:11 am

Thanks for your perspective. Yes, seems like we should pass.

On paper, it sounds good because the Suns are saying they need a starting point guard. MAYBE if they are finally ready to try to start winning. If so, Lin’s the guy.

But wouldn’t want Lin getting caught in a volatile organization either. With a lot of changes and shuffling around. Once they get a new GM, will they change coaches again? Will players get traded? Will they get rid of the vets signed by the old regime, and try to re-build again around Booker? Yup, quite a mess.

Sigh.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:15 am

Yes, seems like the Hawks do need Lin. FOR NOW. And Lin needs the Hawks right now too. To rebuild his own value.

So, it might be a mutually beneficial relationship. At least for the short term.

How many times will we have to repeat. Let’s see what happens.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:18 am

I hate tanking. But some teams. Look at the Lakers and the Knicks. As bad and horrible as they’ve been. They never seem to lose fans.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:27 am

And I thought we were the only ones who can’t let Linsanity go.

“Former New York Knicks star, Amar’e Stoudemire, looked back on the Linsanity era of 2012 when Jeremy Lin became an overnight star at Madison Square Garden…..Already over six years passed, “Linsanity” remains a recurring conversation with the Knicks. It lasted in the blink of an eye, as a movement that overtook the NBA for not even half a season, but the impact holds strong in September 2018.”

https://dailyknicks.com/2018/09/29/new-york-knicks-amare-stoudemire-reminisces-linsanity/
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:32 am

See, another one…..albeit a reprise of previous post by Seth Rosenthal.

“Jeremy Lin is back from his season-ending injury in 2017! We wish Linsanity never left.”

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/1047566166380699651
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:36 am

NBA TV – Season preview of the Hawks. Can’t find the full episode on line. No mention of Lin in this clip.

“What kind of influence will Lloyd Pierce have on the Hawks?” – who the heck is the analyst sitting with Caron Butler?

https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/1049429041499975681
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:40 am

For the people who want Lin to go to Spurs. Other players have already been injured. Is Murray the only one out for the season? (I know the Spurs rookie Lonnie Walker is also out for season.)

JLin reaching out and showing support to Dejounte Murray.

https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/1049771310065377280
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:44 am

Kevin Chouinard with more videos of practice. Lin made his shots. Just need the rhythm back on court.

https://twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/1049714102992596992

https://twitter.com/KLChouinard/status/1049712753693331456
linthezone October 10, 2018, 2:45 am

Lin officially off “rest”. Should be playing.

https://twitter.com/ATLHawks/status/1049766547722592261
Kwok Wai Lai October 10, 2018, 4:10 am

I don’t want Lin to go to teams without good trainers. Nets is notorious in getting it’s players injured. The Spurs is not much better. The Sixers is plagued with serious injuries. GS has had good trainers.
Kwok Wai Lai October 10, 2018, 7:56 am

Watching a team throwing away games isn’t entertaining.
Acbc October 10, 2018, 8:40 am

IMO, the PnR is the first rudimentary lesson in bball IQ. Kids that play iso learn the first lesson on “teamwork” by playing with one other person. The beauty of PnR is that it creates separation while creating a mismatch forcing a small guard to switch to cover the big, while the lumbering big has to cover the speedy attacking guard. It’s a real “AHA” moment when they realize a teammate is useful to create scoring opportunities. The triangle is one extra person added to the mix loading up on one half side of the court. The typical PnR offence runs straight up the middle creating the most variables and options for a good PG to create. Motion offence is more like chess, whereas the PnR is more like fluid dynamics, it wants to flow naturally taking everyone with them. This is why a great pg can make a bunch rookies and bench players look like world beaters. This was how Lin made the Knicks a winning team with just Chandler. Lin can make any team look good, even the Nets. The big question is what will the Hawks do with Lin. If they even allow Lin to lead the second unit like in Charlotte, the results will be a winning season.
Kwok Wai Lai October 10, 2018, 8:49 am

Lin can make a difference in this team when he gets back his form. If Lin doesn’t there is nothing for us to say. It wouldn’t matter which team Lin is going to be in, Lin has to be at least as good as he was. If Lin does gets his game back, he can help whichever team he is in.
Kwok Wai Lai October 10, 2018, 8:58 am

I have confidence Lin is healthy and he will work himself back Once he does that, he will make an impact to this team. He will take over because there is really no contest in this team.
Mad Rantings of a Boiling Frog October 10, 2018, 9:50 am

“The Spurs are not looking to acquire another guard.

San Antonio lost projected starter Dejounte Murray for all of 2018-19 after he suffered a torn ACL in a preseason game this weekend while first-round pick Lonnie Walker will miss the start of the season because of a meniscus tear.

The Spurs, however, aren’t planning to add a backcourt player in a trade or sign a free agent, according to a report from The Athletic, which cites unidentified league sources .

San Antonio will instead replace Murray in the starting lineup with Derrick White and use veteran Patty Mills off the bench, the report says.”

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-news-san-antonio-spurs-not-planning-acquire-guard-after-dejounte-murray-injury-tony-parker-patty-mills-derrick-white/3r3npvsns691r5gyzjccab7f

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(good news in that hopefully Lin doesn’t get too aggressive / competitive this game and risk injury so soon into upcoming season)
Mad Rantings of a Boiling Frog October 10, 2018, 10:34 am

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Acbc October 10, 2018, 11:15 am

Lol, whether Lin plays or not, the haters will make some slandering remark. It’s a double standard all minorities carry. Like how the Asian sidekicks on Hawaii 5O were expected to be a draw in viewership and yet not be a star. So the argument against Lin not playing for not stirring up the hornets nest of Social media holds no water.

Injuries will happen even if he sits out these “worthless” games. The difference is that these types of games allows Lin to really take it easy without worrying about losing a game because of lack of effort. Lin is a 100% kind of player and we know even if he plays 15 minutes in a real game, he’s going to go all out. That’s the kind of guy Lin is. Playing these games allows him to acclimate to a slightly higher demand on his joints and muscles. What’s really needed for Lin is a very gradual transition into real game play. To me, this small baby step is exactly what Lin needs to take baby steps forward.
Acbc October 10, 2018, 1:04 pm

They keep trying to hammer the propaganda that Linsanity was a fluke. It’s the most annoying thing that the media blindly parrot the same old lie. Lin’s usage was greatly reduced by Woodson to make the office flow through Melo. It’s how the media wants to frame Linsanity’s end to make the Knicks look better for letting a great player go. Meanwhile the fans and their re old shows otherwise. It sickens me to read garbage by dressing it up as roses.
zxcvb October 10, 2018, 2:12 pm

We’ll see. Teams say whatever is advantageous to them. Spurs don’t want to look desperate, but if Derrick White can’t handle the role, you can be sure they will look to upgrade by the deadline.

But first Jeremy must prove that he’s fully recovered. And that might take another few weeks. He’s finishing nifty layups at the rim, which is good, but his leg strength isn’t there yet (missing jumpers). Even after pain is gone and mobility is back, full muscle strength takes time to return.
gum October 10, 2018, 4:00 pm

I subscribed ONE TEAM NBA LEAGUE pass. Can anyone tell me how to watch Hawk/Spurs game this evening?
MEL LIN October 10, 2018, 5:56 pm

I can tell you how…but I need your account name and password
linthezone October 10, 2018, 6:28 pm

For pre-season, NBA League Pass supposed to be free on TV.

If you are streaming on computer or mobile devices. Depends on how you purchased LP.

Go to NBA.com. Click on tonight’s schedule. Find the Hawks/Spurs game. Click on “watch”. There should be options, depending on how/where you purchased LP. Login as applicable.

Hope that helps! Hope JLin has a great game, health and Bball wise!
linthezone October 10, 2018, 6:40 pm

Yes, many segments of sports media, especially ESPN, will NEVER give Lin his due.

But, surprisingly, many still appreciate what Lin can bring. (Howard Beck, Howard Megdal, Chris Baldwin, New York Times, Robin Lundberg, etal.) I didn’t take this particular article too negatively. (I try to never bring negative articles here.)

As the author indicated, the fact that Knicks fans are still talking about Linsanity 6 years later just shows how much fond remembrances they have of that time. Many of them still hate that the Knicks let Lin go.
linthezone October 10, 2018, 6:42 pm

YES, TOTALLY. As long as Lin is healthy, we have no doubts about what he brings.

Whether teams appreciate him and give him respect because of NBA politics. Well, that’s another story.
gum October 10, 2018, 10:04 pm

Thank you Mel Lin…I am traveling now and did not bring my little book where I keep all the pass words…Unfortunately, I do not remember what it was!
gum October 10, 2018, 10:05 pm

Thank you Linthezone…I was able to watch the game!

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