Lin Was Underutilized, Hornets Lost by 33 Points in Game 7

Screen Shot 2016-05-02 at 1.21.42 AMHow did this embarrassing 33-pts blowout in Game 7 happen?

  • Why did the Hornets not put up a more competitive fight in a Do-Or-Die game?
  • Why did Coach Clifford go away from the Kemba/Lin penetration that has worked so well throughout the series and was the sole reason for the 3-game wins in Game 3-5? Why did Lin only play 19 minutes in the biggest game of the series although he shot well at 50% FGM (4-8) and proved to be a threat with an And-1 play in the 1st quarter? Besides Lin, only Lee played well by shooting 63% FGM(5-8). Kemba chose the worst game to shoot 19% (3-18) after his spectacular 37 pts performance in Game 6.
  • Why did Clifford choose to go with Batum as playmaker who aggravated his high-ankle injury in Game 6? Even when Batum was healthy in Game 1-2, it resulted in a combined 42pts blowout! Kemba/Batum playmaking in Game 1-2 was not a good matchup vs the Heat but why did Clifford stubbornly go back to them? Was someone in the Front Office afraid Batum will leave in the Free Agency so Cliff was ordered to play him despite his injured ankle?
  • Did Coach Spoelstra from the Heat succeed in discouraging Clifford to attack with their best weapon in Kemba/Lin dribble-drive?

So many questions to be answered but Game 7 blowout was certainly not the way Hornets fans and players want to go out with a whimper.

Lack of Coach’s Faith and Role Diminish Jeremy Lin’s Chance to Resign with the Hornets

Put yourself in Jeremy Lin’s shoes before Game 7 and you know you’re the difference maker in the series because you rank 2nd in the Net Points with +14, meaning that you outscored the Heat by +14 in all 6 games. Batum and Kemba were in the bottom two with -60 and -45. Ouch!

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You feel good that you will be needed in Game 7 because you proved you helped the Hornets get 3 wins with a combined +40

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But then Coach only played you 19 min even when you shot very well with 50% FG (4-8).

You’re dazed, confused and feel disoriented because it’s unfathomable. You want to help your teammates win so much.

But at the end of the day, you probably tell yourself that NBA is a cruel business after all. It does not matter if you are a difference maker and can help the Hornets celebrate advancing to the semifinal of the Eastern Conference against the Raptors. You are not the primary playmaker in this team. Kemba and Batum have been designated as the main playmakers by the organization so they need to be the playmakers. And you can’t help them even if they have off-games. Winning is not the most important thing even if the fans want it to be. Winning with the right personnel will make the right people look good in the Front Office.

You need to move on. You can stay next season as a backup PG/SG since you love your teammates but you may only play 24 min/game with 10.6pts/2.6asts as a reserve with 30% 3FG. Maybe even fewer minutes after MKG is back.

But other teams might appreciate your 35 min/game starter performance with 17.5pts/4.8asts with 46% 3FG and offer you a starting Point Guard position.

Which one will you choose? It’s really a no-brainer. It would be …

Game 7 Jeremy Lin Highlights

  • Linja

    In His hand!

  • LW

    A picture tell a thousand words. This is what Lin won’t say to public. Hornets is about marketing Kemba, not about winning. And so Lin won’t be part of it anymore.

    Thank you #BuzzCity Jeremy Lin(@jlin7)張貼的相片 於 2016 年 5月 月 1 7:30下午 PDT 張貼

  • Acbc

    For many years now I’ve been saying that jeremy Lin is a very special once in a generation player. Many people think I’m a crazy over the top LOF. I will try to explain my criteria of how I came to that conclusion.

    As a coach, it’s easy to recognize physical talent. It’s there in front of you’re eyes as you see them perform their skills. It’s there when you see them learn with incredible speed the changes you help them make to become better skilled. The physical is sooooo easy to teach in comparison to the inner game of the player’s psycological make up.

    After watching the Hornets lose miserably with Lin on the bench, I can say with certainty that this psychological between Lin and everyone else in the NBA is light years in comparison. Having just physical skills only prepares you to meet the bridge between your self imposed mental cage of beliefs of who you are and the person you dream of becoming on the other side of that bridge.

    We all have these cages. Some of us lock ourselves away in bad relationships, others in bad jobs, some by over bearing parents or siblings. Then there’s our inability to break out of the jail we put ourselves into by multiple neurotic fears of failure, of standing out, of making a a scene of even success.

    As a coach, I’ve had a couple of talented player that failed to cross over that bridge and break out of their own personal cages. That’s why coaches like John Wooden and Phil Jackson are so special. They push the right buttons in abstinent players to unleash them from their own cages.

    Lin however has a limitless ability to break beyond his situations. We all know that Lin admires Naruto. In one of the episodes, Naruto asked his sensei to allow him to cross a “bridge” by himself to do battle with an overwhelming enemy. Naruto recognized correctly that this battle represented a battle to break his own self beliefs of who he is or could be. He needed to prove to himself his own self worth.

    Lin did this again and again in his career. Against Portland and against the Heat. When the team was down and out, Lin crossed that bridge and made good his own promise. In comparison, Harden and Kemba failed miserably. In fact, I’d say that Kemba and Clifford were so afraid of what laid on the other side of that bridge that they didn’t dare to take one step of that bridge.

    Fear of winning is made up of the fear of added pressures to meet. Once crossed over, they must address all the demons of self doubt that they don’t have to while safe on this side of the bridge. This is the same answer abused wives give when after decades of abuse they break mentally and fight back with often violence and murderous intent. The door is wide open for these people to walk out, but they can’t because they are locked within a mental cage of their own fears. Watching Kemba and Clifford, Cho and MJ nakedly reveal on national tv gave me no satisfaction. As a team, they failed to collectively want success more than what’s safe and known. They simply choked in the brightest moment. They are not alone, Toronto Raptors almost lost yet another first rounder because of how badly both Kyke Lowrey and DeRozen have shot. Finally after 3 years of chances, DeRozen finally crossed that bridge by scoring 30 to help take down the Pacers.

    Having the physical gifts to play is good. Having the ability to take those skills to the roof tops of death defying bridge crossings is soooo much better. This is why Lin is to me a once in a generation player. His guts and mental toughness is off the charts when the lights are the brightest. Only the rarest of athletes have that ability and they are all recognized by one name, Jordan, Tiger, Gretzgy, Pele, Ali, Bolt. They have the talent to be great and they back it up with the mental fortitude to make it happen. If Lin is ever unleashed by a FO, I’d expect his name will stand beside these great athletes at the end of his career.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

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  • LW

    Tks!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I don’t see the tweet when I refresh it. Give it another go.

  • Spot

    I knew Charlotte was all about appealing their stars.

    They’re convinced adding a C like Howard or Whiteside will make them contender. They will see what the truth is.

    They think a lineup with

    Kemba
    Batum
    MKG
    Kaminski
    Howard/Whiteside

    Can win a Championship. They will be out of play-off next year.

  • David Kim

    Howard: Jeremy! I am coming..
    Lin: Good luck.. I am leaving..
    Howard:😅😂

  • kittyhead

    Somehow Hornets are so obsessed with Batum, which makes me think they want to replicate how the Magic played with DH. The roster of Walker+Batum+MKG+DH look great on paper.

  • Brent Yen

    It is simple, you ask someone to do something that he can not really do. You fail.

  • lleepar

    I’ve had a night’s sleep now, and I’m still scratching my head about why Lin played less than twenty minutes in such a pivotal game. Kemba was struggling. Lin couldn’t have done worse. In fact, Lin was contributing — to the extent he was allowed. Why was he kept on the bench?
    .
    I know there’s a lot of suspicions about the motives of the coach and the front office. But another thing occurred to me overnight. Another big NBA power structure involves the sports agents. Do Batum and Kemba have the same agent? If so, last night could be as simple as the Hornets getting the message that, if they want Batum to re-sign, they’re gone to have to showcase both of the agent’s players in game seven — and let them control the ball. Same agent? Yes? No?

  • David Kim

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    Also, heard ESPN reporter (recent) say he thinks Jeremy Lin may get like $12-14M/year next year with a team like Brooklyn.
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  • Brent Yen

    What a season! Although it ended badly. If we review what was the goal that Lin seeks before signing with the Hornets.
    1. He wants to have a rehab season
    2. He wants to be able to play his way

    He busted his a$$ off to do that, besides all the hard work,
    1. he has changed his shots (for the better).
    2. he has changed the way he handles the ball.

    Now the 1st goal is undoubtedly achieved.
    The 2nd goal was….not really in his control….at least he got his moments.

    Also he was able to
    1. change the perception somewhat on his D.
    2. change the perception from a solid back up/3rd guard, to one of the best backup/starter.

    This is a successful season for JLin, and I am looking forward to his next season.

  • joyce ward

    I was listening to a Hornets broadcast this morning and it is amazing how Lin is not even credited for the season wins/and season series. It’s like they are handpicking the callers that don’t bring up lin. LOL

  • Brent Yen

    LOL….they think like that all they want….Lin has moved on

  • joyce ward

    Also, they know that they can’t afford lin.

  • Brent Yen

    They do not really want him at that price anyway. Lin is simply not their top priority in FA

  • CJSHYY

    I think from yesterday Cliff didn’t even try to let Lin helped them to win can tell… he knew he will not stay so he just used their future lineup to vs Heat & see what will happen in 3Q…. If you listen to what Cliff said in his post game interview. They seemed to be happy for what they did so far. It’s not 0-4…??? Anyway, finally end w this team. Move on for FA.

  • freemind

    two of them are injury prone, one retract into cocoon during big game . one is harden wannabe. i think DH is alright but would he want to be back to a ball hog ?

  • CJSHYY

    Bc they want to keep Batum that’s why he got all the freedom on court & act as #1 guy for this team now. I am not sure DH will pick Hornets or not bc not really know how hot he will be in this FA. But I think he sure will talk to Lin before he sign w Hornets if that really happen.

  • Guest

    I think that cliff has picked the easy way out to protect himself. If he played Lin and Hornets loose Cliff will be blamed all summer for poor Coaching. Now he played the “best” players and the team lost, he can say that the roster is not good enough.

  • CJSHYY

    I know I read comments from Taiwan’s fans all said why Hornets didn’t seem to care about this game? No good reb, D on Heat? They kept feeding Frank who didn’t make the shots… this is playoff, game 7? They were not that serious to win this game or what?

  • CJSHYY

    If you listen to what he said in his post game interview… he didn’t look mad or upset… more like we had good season & just didn’t reb well…. when asked why Kemba & Frank didn’t guard Dragic well…unbelievable he talked about Whiteside for more than 1 min? Just didn’t direct answer what you asked….? Weird team?

  • Acbc

    Hi Melody
    My post from this morning has been put into pending. I have no idea why. Can you please release it.
    Thanks

  • BobbyH

    Different agents. But I think you got a point about a higher power structure NBA. This game 7 is so wired in so many ways.

    1. Cliff is happy with the result not being 0-4. Even before game, he thought the refs were fair. In playoff games coach wanted every single advantage to advance, not complying to opponent’s tactic.
    2. Since game 6, refs calls were favoring Heat mostly targeting at Lin (offensive fouls)
    3. MJ seemed calm though not pleased in Q3 when the team was behind 22 pts, as if he knew the outcome already.
    4. When Lin came back in Q3 to start a mini run, it seems to me that Ref was trying best to make sure the 28pts come back against Spurs won’t happen again. That was a repeat of Q4 in game 6 with Lin’s offensive fouls that making sure to reduce Lin’s impact. In game 6 and game 7, as if Lin was against Heat, refs and his own coach.

    The whole game 7, it seems that the script is already written from the start. Well, just my suspense theory. It is just so weird as JoeTeam also noticed.

    Maybe there is some agreements involving all start event next year to be held in Charlotte. Maybe there are some unknown parties involved for the interests that can’t be revealed. If that is the case, Linsanity is indeed killed by this higher power structure/groups, twice.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Did I predict that it’s going to be a blowout of the Hornets by the Heat?
    The Hornets essentially went back to game 1 and 2.
    They’re afraid of success with Linsanity.
    Their order is to win with Kemba or else. The final result is or else; a complete blowout: a preview of their next season.

  • kittyhead

    I feel so sorry for Lin to play for a coach who didnt have confidence in the team to win at all…but only tried hard to make Batum happy.

  • joyce ward

    We all know now that Clifford is a lip service coward. They will give Batum the max and he will be injured through must of next season. I will put money on that. KW skills will always be limited as a PG. He doesn’t want to add to his skills.. He will get hurt next year, and then who is their backup PG. I see disaster all over this Hornets team next season.

  • KHuang

    Like I have said all season long, Clifford DOES NOT CARE about winning or losing.

    He only wants to kiss up to Walker and Batum while ejecting Lin.

  • KHuang

    They don’t want him back at only $2 million either.

    Lin’s too disruptive because he keeps outplaying Walker and Batum.

  • freemind

    NB and KW ought to know what was going on all this while and I wonder if they had just mislead Lin along to help in their selfish goals.

  • joyce ward

    That is why they will always be a bottom feeding team in the NBA that will never win an NBA championship.

  • CJSHYY

    I think more for Kemba. This is his team. Somehow I feel Batum will end up like D12 in Rox. Before you sign you are the guy but after …. this is Kemba’s team. Ya! I am upset by what they treated Lin in game 7. Bc I believe they sure promised Lin big playing time or role before game 7 that’s why Lin said ” this is the biggest game of my life…” But yesterday… nothing… Well, really hate this team. Just move on for FA. Exit interview today?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It doesn’t take much intelligence to see what’s coming in game 7.
    Their motto is to win with Kemba at all cost or else.
    Any success with Lin will make the team look bad next season. The coach, the GM and the owner are much ahead of themselves. How could their players play with any energy with game plan that’s destined to fail. No way, Jose.

  • joyce ward

    You know, this was actually a win/win for Lin being on this team. He actually got to play his game without help from the coaches and team mates, by just figuring out strategies to beat his opponent. Lin will have many offers in the coming FA. Can you imagine the heights that lin could accomplish if he had a coach/team mates that want to win.

  • CJSHYY

    Totally agree w ” Clifford is a lip service coward.” He’s doing whatever his boss asked him to do on court. Batum is good player but just not worthy for Max… Well, MJ is willing to pay for it why not…? LOL! I don’t think they will make it to playoff next season.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think so.

  • KHuang

    I posted this on the other site:

    Kudos for Cody Zeller for RETALIATING against Dwayne Wade’s dirty play.

    Zeller shoved Wade after the trashtalk Wade did against Lin. Unfortunately it happened while Lin was making a basket!

    I forgive Zeller because he GOT EVEN with Wade on Lin’s behalf.

  • KHuang

    That unit will lose 50 games.

  • kittyhead

    I dont think Walker would feel happy while he was abused poorly by Dragic without any help…lol Wonder if Lin would opt out after the exit interview?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    What’s comical about this game is Lin was tied with Walker with 9 points.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Next season, they would have no excuse with Lin gone and the team fall.

  • Brent Yen

    And it seems like Walker tried to get that 4th FGM…..but never could…LOL

  • freemind

    Agree with your observation. Even Hornets media and press release were all scripted. recall the news prior to playoff “KW NB Hornets twin engines”, G1&2 gameplan with future lineup etc . Unfortunately there is greater plan up there beyond anyone manipulation that resulted in G3&4 and Lin opportunity to showcase his incredible play that turn the series around. Many has seen, it wasn’t one game it was two games in a row and away game too. The impossible happened. So feared by TPTB and yes, they indeed killed Linsanity once again.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    My favourite

  • Acbc

    Hey Brent, if you are still a mod, can you release a post in pending for me.
    Thanks

  • freemind

    Not exactly surprised. The Charlotte news can’t seems to embrace highlighting asian in good light. In regular season, Lin was never mentioned in 90% of the wins. He was never highlighted in “players that matter” . I disliked such blatant media bias with no objective reported. The few time they embraced Lin was during G3&4 wins but of course it’s KW piece with him as a supporting cast.

  • CJSHYY

    He said we will get better or stronger … sounds just like Harden. smh! I hope he can option out ASAP.

  • CJSHYY

    CP is FA again… No wonder he said he will not mind back to Rox. Hope he do back to Rox.

    https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/727137637820067840

  • Brent Yen

    That long post? I thought it is already there

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Sorry I didn’t see this until now. Didn’t see any post from you that hasn’t been approved. Maybe another mod has done the task. Please check!

  • adele

    Thanks for this message. Very nice! Like Lin, you’re a rare and special type breed.

  • grover chang

    I seriously think you should write a sports psychology book. You have coaching credentials. I would be interested in reading it.

  • lleepar

    The Hornets may have dissed JLin by giving him less than 20 minutes, but they weren’t doing Kemba any favors either. They seemed content to grind their “franchise face” right into the ground without giving him any help. In his depleted state, Kemba could have had a serious injury. It’s weird how they’d rather let Kemba be embarrassed in a pivotal televised game — than risk giving Lin a showcase opportunity.

  • wu kong
  • kittyhead

    This guy is eager for money and power…Hope Cuban re-signs him with max money again…lol

  • wu kong

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/727148198066814977

    “This has been the most fun I’ve had. Proud to go to battle with these guys.” @hornets Jeremy Lin

  • CJSHYY

    Good it’s really today.

  • wu kong

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/727148321299664896

    “I definitely want to play with these guys and for this coach. No question in my mind that I’m interested in coming back.” @hornets J Lin

  • lleepar

    Question: Can teams that are no longer in the NBA play-off hunt make trades now, or do they have to wait until the season is over? When trading starts, it might give us a little more idea what various teams have in mind — and what could be JLin’s best future situation.

  • CJSHYY

    What? Real? or PR?

  • wu kong

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727148614414266368

    “I’ve never seen a group of guys at the professional level, 1-15, get along so well the entire season.” pic.twitter.com/AZv57r5QBZ

  • wu kong

    gotta say it. do not burn bridges… too professional and too much of a good guy sometimes… but he is what he is.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so… NBA do teach players how to say correct answer for PR. LOL!

  • guest

    Never says never.

  • wu kong

    INTERESTED in coming back… at right price and right role….

  • kittyhead

    only interested…not a very passionate word…lol

  • wu kong
  • I am The Jason

    Even more of reason for Brooklyn and Philly to raise their offering price for Lin

  • lleepar

    That’s JLin putting the ball squarely in the Hornets’ court. He had to say something like that in order to see if the Hornets will even make him a decent contract offer.

  • wu kong

    PC wording… but the hornets people and bloggers running with it…

  • GoJLin!

    The power of Bible Study! What else can you say? Too bad, Clifford and front office did not join the study or they might change their mind 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    But it’s odd why Hornets tweet didn’t put this statement? Maybe the reporter asked him about the team & coach… still think it’s PR answer. Love said so about LBJ too.

  • Briiick

    This makes what Hornets did in the 6th and 7th games look worse.

  • Sesshie

    I’m personally glad that the season is over. Hornets apparently thought they had overachieved with making the playoffs and avoided a sweep. They chose not to reach for the real stars and settled for their grounded stars. JLin accomplished what he aimed to do from the beginning, using the Hornets as a platform to show that he’s a starting PG that could lead a team to win through his excellent skills and team play. He was able to lead wins against top teams in the regular season, the win against the Spurs in a dramatic fashion, and broke Hornets’ losing record against Lebron. He was able to impose his will on winning in the playoff games that he was allowed freedom to play, the only playoff games that the Hornets had won. JLin was always prepared and ready to take on an important role to help the team win. It was the Hornets that was unprepared for what JLin could do when they signed him. It’s time for JLin to get back his starting PG job that was unfairly stripped from him by the Rockets. Let’s see which teams are smart enough to recruit him as their starting PG. Free agency here we go!

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin said the same about the lakers and bscott

  • Epie

    NOOOO

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe he said the same. Did he say the same in Rox second season?

  • Sesshie

    How wrong would it sound if he said otherwise. “No question in my mind that I’m not coming back. Good riddance to the team and loser coach”. 😛

  • alain gervais

    Lin may return. May feel this group of guys is special and they could do great thing together. It wouldn’t surprise me.

  • alain gervais

    Well he still didn’t have to say what he said

  • KHuang

    That’s really not saying a lot, considering that all of Lin’s teams SELF DESTRUCTED due to infighting.

  • Sesshie

    There was no reason to say that in the second season. He had contract with the Rockets for three years. But he did voice some displeasure after the Rockets put Melo in his jersey during their free agency recruitment.

  • Sesshie

    Considering his experience with Melo, Harden, and Kobe’s teams, that’s not much of a compliment 😛

  • takeme2cruz

    He never was a free agent while in Houston

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Almost all the players said so… like last season w Love, even he couldn’t get along w LBJ & still said the same PR statement… Right answer.

  • Sesshie

    That would have been this past season. The Hornets proved that they couldn’t even let him help them reach the second round of the playoffs.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. I never saw any player said they hate this team or don’t want to come back….

  • alain gervais

    Hornets was not a playoff team last year. Had a playoff win drought for 15 years. It’d definitely different. Still i hope he goes to a place he can start. With that being said Lin is unpredictable. So we will find out in 2 months

  • Chipdip

    NO!!!! PLEASE

  • Win

    No no no please. After the Hornets has disrespected you like that and you still wanna go back to them?

  • Win

    Clifford and the way the org is run????

    They don’t have a star and the pretend they have one or two which is a fake star. If the coach can play them under the same standard then I have no problem Lin is going back. But no, the are double standard as h***!!!

    Why go back?????????????????

  • cdblue10

    I don’t know if this is the best response for this but Lin is just being Lin,he knows that some teams will offer more money and better role so that’s the fine line of getting over and being nice

  • Win

    From yesterday me to today me.

  • kittyhead

    Just read this…This is a Taiwanese reporter’s twitter account…
    I think he has good relationship with papa Lin?

    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/726883538604163072

  • CJSHYY

    Clam down. If you interview a job even you don’t like the com what would you say? ” I love this job & com….” That’s the way it’s….

  • KHuang

    Relax.

    Lin’s just doing “PLAYER SPEAK”.

    That’s when a player says what he’s expected to say without really saying anything.

    Come free agency, we’ll see what Lin DOES.

  • freemind

    Could this be separate question asked by another report ?? Marvin and Al’s I want to return was quoted and tweeted but not Lin’s. Or could it be if they didnt tweet it and if FO decide not to bring Lin back, fans will assume that he didn’t want to come back??

  • KHuang

    He can return – but he will be REPLACED.

  • alain gervais

    Idk what will happen. in 2 month we will know

  • freemind

    I hope he will exercise his player option and let them bring him back at a fair market contract value

  • alain gervais

    Its always good to have multiple bidders

  • Win

    Ok Guys. I just jointed Disqus. Honestly, ever since my space, I have stop all the social media as I really don’t have time for that.

  • freemind

    Great. I just want him to exercise his player option and see what is available out there. may the best team win his service.

  • David Kim

    Most of players would say that they are interested in coming back because its always better to get more offers to negotiate contract.

  • Win

    oh cool, now I can give thumb up / like, etc.

  • wu kong

    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/727159622570647553 @JLin7 Jeremy Lin got angry at Dwyane Wade’s rough push at 5:12 & 5:00 left 3Q G7.

  • Win

    I surely hope so. I will give up NBA if Ling sign with the Hornets next season.

  • KHuang

    The instant Lin opts out, the Hornets will quickly
    move to replace him with either a rookie PG or a more expensive lesser producing veteran.

  • takeme2cruz

    Great, so the closest source to Jeremy knows he gonna opt out. To me that’s step 1.

  • KHuang

    Even if Lin is forced to return because nobody in the NBA thinks he can play, he’ll be REPLACED THEN WAIVED off the Charlotte roster.

  • Kudos to @zxcvb:disqus who had the foresight to say last night not to be alarmed if Lin would say

    zxcvb • 9 hours ago
    http://www.jlinportal.com/playoff-round-1-game-7-cha-mia-game-thread/#comment-2653363330

    PSA: Don’t be alarmed if Lin says that he “would love to return” to Charlotte in the coming weeks.

    He said the same thing about the Lakers last year (ha!). It’s total BS. Simple professionalism and nothing more. He is 100% leaving, whether it’s for Brooklyn, Philly or elsewhere.

    As a free agent, it is Negotiation 101 to maximize competitors for your services. It is also good to take the high road and praise everything about your team. Makes you look like a great teammate (which Jeremy is) and burns no bridges with the team’s coaches, execs and players. It’s just common sense.

  • Win

    Hate this pretty boy. Not a real friend of Lin.

  • takeme2cruz

    Exactly psalm, you never bad mouth your former job in your resume.

  • I didn’t get to see this game until middle of 3rd quarter. When I turned on the TV, I was not surprised at all that the Hornets were getting blown out. It would have been shocking to me if the Hornets won game 7. Even though I didn’t watch most of the game, I’m guessing that Cliff messed up pretty badly. Lin’s stat line looks fine given his limited minutes. I’m guessing Cliff should have played Lin more and used Lin at PG more. Oh well.

    IF there is a silver lining to this loss it is this. If the Hornets had won, I think they would have likely gone onto the Eastern Conference Finals. There would be a lot of talk about how the Hornets should keep the unit in tact and Lin will get a lot of pressure from teammates/organization to stay. Lin, being a team player, MAY be tempted to re-sign with the Hornets as a backup PG and stay on a “contending” team. This would be a big mistake, because it’s clear that Cliff doesn’t like Lin’s offensive game and Lin’s minutes would be further reduced with MKG coming back next season. So the Hornets losing gives me even more confidence than I already had that Lin will find another home next season. I hope he does and I hope that it is with the Nets/Atkinson.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. PR statement. Who will say NO I will not coming back. I hate this coach & team? LOL!

  • Win

    It would surprise the heck out of me though.

    Please don’t do this.

  • freemind

    I’ll just say good luck to them next season.
    I think any team would love to have Lin at that 2mil price and if that is what it result to, Lin will know that Gods plan is working in other ways. I know it’s tough to be a journeyman and probably why Lin would prefer to return to Hornet if a fair value. So what is fair? imo he may accept a $7mil as same backup role but of course I rather he take up a starting role or a more consistent PG role with another team.

  • freemind

    He said this during the Lakers exit interview
    “However, when asked point blank if he would like to return, Lin said, “Yea.”

  • wu kong
  • yeah, credit to @zxcvb:disqus
    We have many intelligent and seasoned NBA fans here.

    With only 30 NBA teams as employers, players can’t badmouth teams to burn bridges.
    Any offer would help to drive up the bidding war LOL

  • alain gervais

    Its still an issue financially. Marvin, Lin, datum all will get a bigger contract. Hornets would have to drop a few players. So until you see Lamb and hawes traded i wouldn’t get too worried

  • alain gervais

    ooohhh boooyyyyy

  • wu kong

    being diplomatic is one thing… come on dude!! seriously?!?! surely he means discount on what he should be paid. he is barely paid as it is….

  • alain gervais

    If you taking a discount then datum has too as well

  • Win

    I do know that was a PR talk and yes unfortunately you gotta take like that (fake) in this world.

    But what worry me is Lin wanna go back to Hornets because of his teammates. That what worry me the most.

    🙁

  • Win

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • takeme2cruz

    He said he would take a discount or he was asked by reporter would he take a discount?

  • alain gervais
  • alain gervais
  • KHuang

    Relax.

    The price has to be right.

  • alain gervais
  • KHuang

    That’s not Lin’s call.

  • Good .. Lin had a “poker face”

    But the discount comment is not necessary even if he’s spiteful about the 19min last night. To lose bargaining power is not good.

    Maybe he heard interest from the Nets and 76ers and wants to play along with the Hornets by being extra nice before spurning them. That’d be cold 🙂

  • alain gervais

    Kinda is . He is a free agent

  • Win

    Exactly what I am worry about. He like his teammates so much so he don’t even care how the coach and the team mistreated him.

  • KHuang

    It’s really no different anywhere else.

    In the NBA, teammates rarely get along.

  • alain gervais

    Lin completely made this free agency boring. We know what he want. Still It isn’t set in stone

  • alain gervais

    Poker face more like. See my card if you want

  • KHuang

    Stop freaking out.

    A “pay cut” might be accepting $12 million instead of $13.

    You are new to the NBA, so you need to understand that Lin has actually SAID NOTHING.

    Wait till formal contracts are handed out at July 1.

  • Win

    I love Lin but sometime I really think he is too nice or even soft?

  • freemind

    ok our boy wants to settle down and start a family 🙂

  • I believe Lin is smart enough to know he won’t get much PT next season, especially after the 19min treatment in the crucial Game 7.

  • alain gervais

    Of course it will be 10-12 million. Atleast thats my hope if its a pay cut

  • KHuang

    If other teams want Lin and will pay him properly, the Hornets would be hard pressed to keep him and Lin would have a hard time staying.

    Lin is loyal, but he’s still a NBA player who will go to the right team.

  • alain gervais

    Given how he has shown his want to return to hornets. Other teams would have to wow him in money and trust to get him

  • KHuang

    STOP.

    You are FREAKING OUT NEEDLESSLY.

    Lin has actually said very little.

    And you will learn that what players say are not the same as what players DO.

  • CJSHYY
  • Win

    I really really hope you are right on this.

  • Brent Yen

    He is right

  • KHuang

    The Hornets need to wow Lin too.

  • Win

    Finally I see something I wanna see.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    I have been following the NBA much longer than Lin has been alive.

    I AM RIGHT.

  • alain gervais

    A discount is still more then what Lamb makes

  • Win

    Lol. I don’t you have been following NBA longer than I do to be honest.

  • alain gervais
  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think he will be back. After read Batum’s statement he’s not for sure yet… Good. Hope both are out of Hornets.

  • Win

    I think I am much much older than you are. To a point it may surprise you.

  • joyce ward

    Exactly, lin is being smart because he said that to test his value on the market and see what. Other teams are willing to pay amd ehat kind of role will hr play om another team. I also think that lin and his teammates talked about sstaying together

  • lleepar

    “Asked Batum what’s his determining factor: ‘Who’s returning on this team, who’s coming back on this team.'”
    .
    I wonder who Batum has in mind …

  • alain gervais

    https://twitter.com/rodboone/status/727157053177913344
    Looks like they all want to be back. Al will sign a veteran minimum

  • mara

    Feeling positive that Batum will opt out and Jeremy will stay as a starter with a huge contract. Oh my, hopefully he’ll be bound to Brooklyn and will be fun to listen to Robin L. night and day:)

  • KHuang

    Batum is regarded as a max contract player despite having a very average
    game.

    Like all players, he’s hoping that a big time winner like GSW or SAS will offer him a multiyear max.

    Like Lin whose free agency is uncertain, Batum’s is uncertain. But at least the Hornets want Batum. The Hornets sure don’t
    want Lin.

  • Win

    Stay, please stay Batum. 5 year + max contract!

  • Brent Yen

    You need to get rid of that LAL jersey…..lol jk

  • CJSHYY

    His family are in LA… LOL!

  • kittyhead

    Speechless…discount means 1m is ok?= =; someone needs to wake him up…….

  • KHuang

    That’s NOT THE POINT.

    I have watched DECADES of free agency. I know how NBA free agency works.

    Right now, Lin is very conscious of the fact that NOBODY WANTS HIM because he’s Asian.

    But even so, he will still likely test free agency by opting out.

    If Lin wanted to stay at
    all costs, he’d tell the press that he’s opting in no matter what and then do it.

  • mara

    Haha… ok sure:)

  • Ok, Lin loves his teammates but does he love them enough to watch them play from the bench a lot next season?

    The easy and comfortable thing would be stay, but does he really want to be great?

    Jeremy Lin: “You don’t become great by doing what’s easy or comfortable.” Jan 11, 2016

  • takeme2cruz

    The Hornets will try to resign Batum and Lee first. Meanwhile everything lin said today will become meaningless.

  • Win

    That exactly the point. If I am much older than you and have been following NBA longer than you, do you think I don’t know about the drama, trick, talks, etc during FA?

  • KHuang

    ALL “player speak” in the NBA is meaningless.

    Contracts are managed between lawyers and lawyers.

  • KHuang

    Lin will go where he is wanted and paid properly.

  • CJSHYY

    Al really wants to come back.

  • Win

    I honestly I am old enough to be your dad. No offense. Just trying to make a point that I am a old dude.

  • KHuang

    NO WAY.

    Batum seeks his max deal,
    and Charlotte wants to give it to him.

    It is doubtful that Batum would get a max anywhere else.

    Meanwhile, other teams need to step up and pay Lin proper $ as befits a nonAsian player of his statistical achievement.

  • Absolutely. I see the fire and the desire in Lin to be great.
    Most importantly he will play for a coach who believes in him.

    Noone can say Cliff believes in him by playing him for 19min after Lin won him 3 games.

  • KHuang

    Sure!

  • KHuang

    I doubt you’ve followed the NBA as closely as I have – otherwise you wouldn’t be freaking about needlessly about Lin’s MEANINGLESS player speak.

  • Win

    Let me reply u up there.

  • Unless other NBA teams offer to pay him more or start him 🙂

    Very typical response in exit interview by seasoned NBA players.

  • David Kim

    What if his formal coaches(ankinson and MDA) tell lin that he will start and get pay 10-14mils with right system? Will he still stay in hornets ? Dont think so.. But i understand lin is tired of moving though.

  • KHuang

    Lin seeks STABILITY.

    But stability will not come with the Hornets at a low salary.

    Lin will find that out over the next few weeks.

  • KHuang

    No player would turn down good money and a starting position to be a disliked bench scrub.

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin is in his prime, choosing to play multiple more seassons behind Kemba and Lee will erase his goal as starter forever.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL….very true

  • mara

    I want Jeremy to be in Brooklyn!!!!! lol

  • heart
  • KHuang

    Look, I’m not trolling or even criticizing you.

    I understand your unhappiness at Lin’s quotes. That’s understandable and expected.

    But if you have followed the NBA as closely as you say you have, then you know that ALL players say they want to stay with a team but usually end up going elsewhere.

    Even in Lin’s career, he’s already sone this twice. He said he wanted to stay with the Mavs and Lakers, but he ended up moving on anyway.

    Go by what Lin DOES, not what he SAYS.

  • wu kong
  • David Kim

    But he care about starting

  • takeme2cruz

    Go to NY, his endorsement will go to the roof.

  • KHuang

    Me too

  • wu kong

    dang Khuang… you can say the same thing just not so abrupt man.

  • I love this response by Lin 🙂

    He was willing to come to Hornets in 2015 to find the best situation … on-court
    Translation: He’d still be willing to find the best on-court situation in 2016, in the Hornets or somewhere else.
    https://twitter.com/rodboone/status/727167146912940033

  • KHuang

    Think whatever you want.

    The bottom line is that “player speak” DOES NOT MATTER.

  • BobbyH

    Get a bird in hand first before seeking out a hawk. You got to have insurance first before exploiting what is out there.

  • KHuang

    I already tried.

  • Brent Yen

    Exactly

  • freemind

    Did I miss Lee interview? Didn’t see it posted on Hornets twitter. In order of post Kemba Lin Al Mar Hawes Cody Nic Frank Cliff.

  • Win

    Guys and Girls,

    As KHuang said, those are all PR talks and a normal player would be able to tell there is not room for them in Hornets.

    However, Is Lin we are talking about. Who have a strong believe in Jesus (No offense but I think people who believe in Jesus are mostly super nice people and I luv them),

    I believe Lin is the type that are not greedy and doesn’t have big ego or ambition like other normal NBA players. As Lin said, he got paid early in his career so money is not a factor to him. And he has finally found a team that he can enjoy playing with which he never found in his entire career.

    Based on the above, I think I have a right to be freak out a little. Just a little though.

    Again, I have nothing against people who believe in Jesus. And I actually like them are lot as they are mostly very nice, warm, caring people.

    Cheers!

  • Ben Johnson

    Yeah, too bad he was lied to and defrauded by this organization…too bad for them!!!

  • KHuang

    The general rule in the NBA is that a player should NEVER opt out of a contract without a new contract already in place.

    JR Smith did this and was nearly burned this offseason. He thought he was going to get tons of offers, and he was surprised that nobody offered him anything. But the Cavs rescued him with a good deal.

    That said, I think that Lin should just opt out even without a contract. He’s being paid too little next season to hold onto his current deal.

  • HVJoy

    Thank you, Zxcvb, for the warning.

    Lin was typically polite and diplomatic.

  • KHuang

    Good post.

    No argument from me here.

    I disregard anything that any player says, and I go strictly by what they DO.

  • Win

    Another word, If Lin is not a Jesus believer, then I wouldn’t worry about it at all.

  • heart

    Yep, Lin minutes and role will be reduced even more if he stays. God forbids…

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727161895174569984
    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727160949992382465

  • alain gervais

    We’ve followed Lin for a while. What Lin said down there. Is the truth. Lin is pretty blunt in the offseason. Lins never been a pr type of person. When he does its pretty fake. I can tell he doesn’t feel that. HE usually says otherwise in the offseason or during his china trip. Anyways. Lins intention don’t mean its will happen. We will see

  • Win

    Thank you very much. Again, please excuse my English if any of you feel offensive about my POV on the God.

    I have full respect to the god and people whom believe in him.

  • KHuang

    I saw no offenses in your post.

  • alain gervais

    This is very smart thing to do still. Lin is a man of his words. Those words down there was not hollow. If Lin doesn’t return its likely charlottes doing. Not freeing up enough space for him. Balls in charlottes court

  • CJSHYY

    He finally tried something to clear Lin’s bad D name for him.

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727165928488628228

  • wu kong

    I so hope this is part of a long broad FA strategy. And not just exhaustion and disappointment talking

  • Win

    Tks buddy.

    🙂

  • takeme2cruz

    Lol

  • Win

    Now this is exactly what PR talks mean.

  • Win

    Wow. Now I can edit too. Cool!

  • KHuang

    Courtney Lee was brought in to replace Lin’s SG minutes.

    Now the Hornets need to find a PG to replace Lin’s PG minutes (Raymond Felton).

    The Hornets need to execute the acquisition of a backup PG quickly, if they are to have hopes of dissuading Lin to return to the team.

  • heart

    We Lin fans know this. Remember this post later on and refute anyone that dis barrage on Lin’s D.

  • KHuang

    They gotta PAY HIM TOO.

    Lin’s agents will see to that.

  • KHuang

    COACH SPEAK by Clifford.

    If Lin were as good defensively as Clifford said, Lin would have played a lot more.

  • LW

    Lin meant it would have to be perfect for that to happen, and we all know the world is far from perfect.

  • DX

    Still remember you said “No team will give an offer to Lin next season”. Still count? 🙂

  • alain gervais

    I agree anything less then 10 million is a slap in the face. Lamb is getting 7 million. He didn’t play in the playoffs. Lin deserve at least 10 million.

  • alain gervais

    Edit what?

  • CJSHYY

    I know it’s PR for Lin but I take it. Hope they can repeat it in National TV.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    It is VERY RARE for Lin to receive ANY positive publicity at all.

  • KHuang

    A “pay cut” could be $11 million down to $10 million for Lin.

  • KHuang

    Your English is just fine too.

  • Win

    Haha. Thanks. Very nice of you buddy!

  • heart
  • Win

    my post. Just signed up for Disqus

  • BobbyH

    Yep, just look at game 7, 3/16 18.75% performance.

  • Ray Lam

    COUGH B*LLSH*T COUGH!

  • CJSHYY

    ASG push so early? smh!

  • Brent Yen

    He pretty much only had one good game in the entire series

  • 22cents

    He is doing his job to catering KW. In the league, star play can fir a coach.

    I do not blame him doing this. I just wish that Lin can find a coach really use him correctly.

  • David Kim

    Gotta ask lin if he is okay to play less than 20mins with MKG coming back next season…

  • haha… no worries

    Just because Lin as a Christian is not greedy and nice, it doesn’t mean his #1 goal is to play with nice teammates. Since his HS years, his goal was to play for a coach who believes in him.

    I believe that supersedes the desire to play with nice teammates.
    If Lin doesn’t believe Cliff has faith in him and uses his strength, he will do the hard thing to fulfill his God-given potential.

    Besides, moving to different team will mean more players will hear about God’s Words and join his Bible Studies LOL

  • heart

    I’ve becoming more jaded w/ the NBA after this season. If Lin does not get starting role offers, it will confirm my suspicion and it will be ashamed. This article talks about ‘Subliminal Perception’ in regards to Lin. One has to ask why and where does this ‘subliminal perception or reception come from? It’s from the heart filled w/ (you place your choice of words here.)
    https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/the-stereotypical-subliminal-perception-of-jeremy-lin/

  • alain gervais

    Lol it was always there.

  • wu kong
  • Win

    Haha. Well said. Totally agreed and I hope you are right.

    🙂

  • yeah, I want to hear the complete interview to see how the questions were phrased and how Lin tried to address them with his usual Lin-speak to be polite but honest

  • alain gervais

    exactly or 13 to 12

  • John Focker

    Was Cliff on Saturday Night Live?

  • John Focker

    If the goal is to hate, they’ll find a reason regardless.

  • Win

    Yup. But you gotta sign up in order to be able to edit. I have been posting as a guest.

  • alain gervais

    Ohh i see.

  • DX

    Top 10 play time or more shoot?

  • Win

    Oh here you are G. Good morning. And tks for the support on the discussion with JimmyL yesterday.

    🙂

  • wu kong

    Hi… all is good. your welcome.

  • Jedi

    He forgot G.O.A.T at being blocked in playoffs.

  • webattorney

    Just not as good as C. Lee — Cliff was thinking as he spoke.

  • CJSHYY

    No one wants to come so Kemba is the king in this team. Of course they have to everything they can to make him happy. No blame him just can’t stand it. LOL!

  • Win

    Or the Ninja Turtle, D Will.

  • CJSHYY

    No need to care about these blog… bc you just waste your time. Forget about them. Move on for FA.

  • Jedi

    Utter rubbish. If Jeremy wasn’t supported by his fervent fans, he would be bullied even more. The fact that we’re so vocal makes them write more carefully, even if it’s subconscious.

  • zxcvb

    Like I’ve said a thousand times, it’s all PR. He said the same things about the Lakers (LOL).
    “No question in my mind that I’m interested in coming back.”
    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/727148321299664896

  • wu kong

    just ended it… blocked moving on… https://twitter.com/monkeyes2/status/727177240660856833

  • John Focker

    Thanks for the reminder, did Kemba set a new record?

  • alain gervais

    He didn’t say it with this type of convection. Also as soon as he went to china. We heard otherwise. He said He wanted to play in another offense. That lakers didn’t first him. Lin is usually honest and blunt

  • heart

    Why bring in the fans? All the players have fans,including those propped-up stars have more fans. Gabrielle Union, spouse of Dwade, has millions of fans, and she riled up her fan base when she complained to the NBA on her husband’s behalf after Game 5. Heat fans riled up and complained along. What did Hornets fan base and Hornets bloggers do what after watching Lin got mauled by these pampered propped-up stars? They harp on Lin’s fans and don’t do anything to help him until Lin fans did. Lin fans are the only ones making our voice heard on behalf o Lin. SMH!

  • don’t bother with rude condescending & unprofessional people

    it’s not worth our time 🙂
    It’s bad enough they have to live with themselves all the time

  • Barry Allen

    It’s always smart to start a bidding war for your services. The more bidders the better.

  • DX

    Why most Lin fans want Lin leave Hornets? it’s not they don’t approve the improvement in Hornets, it’s because they believe Lin can do better than this. Lin should have his own team as starting PG and make the playoff. It will never happen in Hornets. We all can see, Cliff, Kemba even most Hornets fans are very happy they made playoff this year and not 0-4 like extra bonus. But Lin fans are very unset because their goal is at least 2nd round or ECF.

  • zxcvb

    1) Yes, he did. He said he’d “absolutely” love to come back to the Lakers.
    2) We’ll probably hear otherwise on his upcoming China trip. This is the day after the Game 7 loss. Every player is saying the same thing: “I love these guys. Most fun I’ve had. Love to come back.”

  • wu kong

    i blocked and muted them… done…

  • Kudos to you, man!

    You had the foresight he’d say it in the next coming weeks.
    It turns out to be the next day LOL

  • webattorney

    Yes, still count. Lol

  • very-well done!

  • Jedi

    I’m actually not sure lol. But he was blocked 23 times from what I read here yesterday.

  • webattorney

    He never said he would return even with a discount. Lol

  • alain gervais

    I didn’t say he never said it. So i don’t get why you say yes as if i said no.. He just didn’t say this much about the laker and how he loved being there. Anyways this is pointless. Free agency is in 2 month. I want Lin to start but at the end of the day he will do what he may. Lin has always been unpredictable so i will wait and see

  • CJSHYY

    These’re all PR… if he wants to come back to Hornets why these statements didn’t show up in their official tweet. only this… Hornets knew more than us…. no need to post it bc it will not happen.

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727148614414266368

  • Phoenix Rising

    I hunted it down for you guys. Lin during lakers exit interview –

    On his status as an unrestricted free agent: “I
    know how fast things change in this league. There were times when I
    thought I would never be a part of this league.” Lin added that
    returning to the Lakers is a possibility: “I’m not ruling anything out,
    and I don’t know where I’m going to be next year.”

    So clearly his
    statements this year are more positive towards Hornets. And to be fair
    the Hornets have been more positive towards him, than the lakers. I
    don’t think he is lying, can’t close any doors till an offer is in hand,
    i guess.

  • zxcvb

    I forgot that there’s always an immediate post-playoff/season interview.

    Everyone always overreacts to standard PR statements. According to media statements, every player ever is staying on their team for the rest of their careers!

  • freemind

    hehe Lin fans are super smart and analytical. debate with facts and data .. they can’t keep up their lies so take the easy way name calling blame way out.

  • alain gervais

    We will see july 1 is not that far away

  • Barry Allen

    It’s because they played Lin 19 minutes in a crucial Game 7 where he was shooting 50%.

    Meanwhile, Walker get 36 minutes, goes 3/16, and shoots the Hornets out of the game.

  • alain gervais

    Thank you i knew Lin was just being kind with the lakers. This year its more then that. Lin cant hide his emotions. He tends to wear them on his sleeve

  • DX

    We can see how upset Lin looks. He has been many times in playoff and 1 round isn’t his goal for sure.

  • CJSHYY

    True. I still believe he will not back.

  • Barry Allen

    Nah, Lin won’t play 2nd fiddle in a team that got kicked out in the first round, where he was marginalized in game 7 shooting 50%. It’s just not going to happen.

  • Barry Allen

    Lin is a winner,he hates to lose no matter what. He won’t be smiling in a loss, unlike some others.

  • zxcvb

    “That’s definitely an option for me to consider,” Lin said. “I’m here. I
    love the city. I love the fans. I’m comfortable. I would definitely
    consider it for sure if that’s an option.”

  • alain gervais

    Look i want him to start as well. Lin is the one who said what he said

  • cshot

    Jeremy Lin is a warrior. I don’t think he’ll settle with being a back up to Kemba for another long@ss season only to watch bricks fall from the sky. Like a lot of you mentioned, I think he’s just being overly polite and generous to the organization. He’s not the guy to pout and bash the team. He even freaking said that he would love to play for the lakers again last season. If for some strange strange strange reason he DOES sign with the hornets again, I don’t know if I’ll have the strength to watch his games. Its so frustrating seeing him misused and benched. His minutes are only going to get shorter with Batum (likely to resign), Kemba, MKG, and Courtney Lee (Likely to resign as well) in the rotation. Playoff game 7 said A WHOLE LOT about cliff and the way he views Jeremy. In the meantime, I’m not too worried and think he’ll get better offers and opportunities from a lot of other teams this FA. Praying for the best for Jeremy

  • Ben Johnson

    Basically, Jlin paid the hornets organization 6 million this year to have cliff speak well about.his defense

  • heart

    I think he’s waiting to see who else out there will bid for his service and provide him better offers like most players do. But in Lin’s case, he’s definitely is being treated w/ a double standards. There’s a ‘glass ceiling’ being placed on him. Don’t know which owners & coaches will have the guts to give him an opportunity to start. We’re hoping it’s Atkinson or D’Atoni, but they’re not owners. One is new and the other is Assistant HC. So, the odds are still stacked against Lin… Prayers and Hope are all we can do. We’ll see. Read this article:https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/the-stereotypical-subliminal-perception-of-jeremy-lin/

  • CJSHYY

    I agree what Cliff did for Lin the most it’s to clear his bad D name.

  • alain gervais

    Its like saying yea i would return to this job i hate because i love the building and i love workers. Well thats great but do you love the job?? or working for your boss?? Its not really saying much and far more politics then this year

  • cshot

    lol barely.

  • Barry Allen

    Miami v Charlotte – Game 7….Kemba Walker 3/16 FG 18.75% FG%

    ’nuff said.

  • David Kim

    I might watch some games but i dont think i will buy league pass.. Lol

  • cshot

    just watch the highlights afterwards i guess, if he does good haha.

  • wandertheglobe

    Ransom money for his next big contract. 🙂

  • zxcvb

    Do you think he was actually “comfortable” in LA with Byron Scott?

  • FreetheMind

    Lin needs to opt out ASAP to make it CLEAR he is considering all options. Chandler Parsons did right away and I think Lin should do the same. There is no way in h*** he should settle as a backup player when he should be a starter unless it is a role where he can be guaranteed 30 mins a game as the 6th man. Playing backup to Kemba for another season would be an insult when Lin is the better PG.

  • Barry Allen

    If Lin does resign with the Hornets for a pay cut, I won’t be keeping much track of his games anymore. Just too painful to watch him being marginalized.

  • zxcvb

    Every year it’s the same. Lin is “definitely” staying in New York. He’s “definitely” having a long career in Houston. He’s “definitely” considering staying in LA. Now he’s “definitely” interested in staying in Charlotte.

    “Definitely” “Absolutely” It’s the same words every year. And he always leaves.

    Go by actions not PR statements, even when it comes to Jeremy. He’s always polite and professional. There’s nothing to gain and everything to lose by not playing the PR game. Notice how Cliff is being nice too, talking about his defense.

    He’s 100% gone if Brooklyn or Philly/MDA calls. But why reduce your leverage and say you’re looking to leave?

  • alain gervais

    Look at what he said. there are periods between each i love. He also never said i am comfortable here or with the lakers or playing for b.scott. HE just said i am comfortable

  • David Kim

    did coach talk only defense about Lin?

    Charlotte Hornets
    Charlotte Hornets – Verified account ‏@hornets

    “He’s in his prime. I’ve never been around many guys that have the size, skill & basketball IQ that he has.” -Coach Cliff on @nicolas88batum

  • rookie75094

    And that game is a loss…hehe

  • xeroid

    All those fears that Lin will resign with Hornets are totally unwarranted. Lin is intelligent, he will discuss the situation with his family, his team, and advisers during the next 2 months. There is no real hurry to op out immediately. Lin is a gentleman in the truest sense of the word. He may harbor disappointments, but he will not trash others to make his point. I suspect he will go to Brooklyn or Philadelphia, or even Chicago, now that there was a rumor that Bulls might dump Rose to Brooklyn and pursue Lin.

  • zxcvb

    Look at what he said today: “No question in my mind that I’m interested in coming back.”

    No commitment at all. Players say the same stuff over and over again.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! At least from Hornets tweet… I think Cliff knew Lin will not stay… the other day when one reporter asked him to sign Lin in FA, Cliff said ” I hope so.” that’s it.

  • zxcvb

    People always panic over nothing. I posted a “PSA” last night because I knew this was going to happen — it happens every year with every free agent including Jeremy. But NBA fans never learn, here or elsewhere.

  • HVJoy

    Well said. Lin gives a diplomatic as well as strategic answer!!

  • zxcvb

    The man never said a bad word about Byron Scott! That says everything.

  • alain gervais

    look you don’t want him to return. I get it. He may. He may not. We will see. I get why he may want to return. Uncertainty of a new team and coach and locker room. Its a bit tough. Still we will see. I want him to start. I want him to have his own team. We will see

  • David Kim

    The decision will be different before and after offers from other teams including hornets.

  • zxcvb

    Just don’t be fooled by the same PR statements he makes every year. You’re using punctuation from media tweets as “secret clues”…

  • alain gervais

    What will happen will happen regardless what we hope for.

  • heart

    Cliff offers very few and sparing compliments to Lin throughout the season and even in exit interview. Cliff said Lin’s a “good defender”, “can battle in the post”, “he’s physical”. ONE good compliment for Lin to sum up how Cliff saw and used Lin for the entire season. DEFENSE. So it’s Not much of a compliment for Lin comparing to what Cliff had been showering NB, KW w/ all the undeserving praises and credits for this season. So no matter how Lin does, doubters and odds are stacked against him. SMH!

  • wandertheglobe

    Overated!

  • HVJoy

    Good for you! Thumbs up!

  • donsmacau

    Final Tally Folks KEMBA the UNDISPUTED CHAMPION of 2016 Playoffs:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2016.html
    What an awesome achievement! His mama must be proud!

    Field Goals Missed
    1. Kemba Walker ▪ CHO 97
    2. DeMar DeRozan ▪ TOR 94
    3. Damian Lillard ▪ POR 90
    4. Kevin Durant ▪ OKC 83
    5. Isaiah Thomas ▪ BOS 72

    Field Goal Attempts
    1. Kemba Walker ▪ CHO 153
    2. Damian Lillard ▪ POR 141
    3. DeMar DeRozan ▪ TOR 138
    4. Kevin Durant ▪ OKC 132
    5. Paul George ▪ IND 123

  • heart

    Yep. He paid them to have play time. Read my comment above. It’s not much of a compliment from Cliff though. That’s summed up how Cliff used and saw Lin all season-DEFENSE.

  • james brown

    he mention before that he was willing to comeback to all the team he did sign before..even said he talk to nyk before and love houston?not burning bridges is a sign he’s on top of everything!

  • heart

    Thanks. Yet, these TV and radio show hosts including the coaches don’t mention these stats. ‘PROPPED-UP’ stars indeed!

  • CJSHYY

    I agree w Interested in…. sounds more like polite, PR…..

  • wandertheglobe

    As noted by many here…

    Free agents almost always talk like they're staying right after season https://t.co/siEZnn2MJ0— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) May 2, 2016

  • Win

    Of cause he wanna stay. Who doesn’t? You are favored by the coach regardless on your performance, set to get paid max in the next 5 years.

    Please stay as long as you want.

  • alain gervais

    Ofcouse but like he said. Players are saying more then they have to

  • I believe Lin has said the key words about what he seeks in the Free Agency:
    “best On-Court situation” means his PG/SG role, minutes and how coach uses him

    Lin loves his #Hornets teammates But it’s about finding best #OnCourtSituation
    It could be CHA/BKN/PHI

    https://twitter.com/rodboone/status/727167146912940033

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/727191700087562242

  • takeme2cruz

    Either cliff has small brain memory or he just cheap shot at Lillard and Aldridge.

  • CJSHYY

    Well, this is from Hornets but Batum also said this…

    https://twitter.com/rodboone/status/727161154817019904

  • HVJoy

    Great twit! You speak the minds of most of us here.

    BTW, the write-up for this thread is another great piece! The title for the thread is the best! Thank you.

  • cdblue10

    JLin won’t be respected if he comes back to Hornets with the same price tag.And that TAG will stick with him FOREVER.

  • takeme2cruz

    No matter what price tag, he would lose respect if he chooses to play back up for kw.

  • HVJoy

    Don’t worry. It will not likely happen.

    Judging from history (what he said during exit interviews for the past seasons in Houston and LA), Lin will not return to Hornets unless a starter position is offered to him with a matching salary.

  • travis

    brooklyn might sign dwight howard, to pair with lin, they tried to trade brook for him in 2012

  • travis

    and imagine marvin williams joins them too, they would just need a decent sg and sf to be top 3 in the east

  • Phoenix Rising

    Well, one positive is that this year, after a long time, the mainstream media has praised him and his offensive skills. Especially in the playoffs. Maybe that will balance the odds a little bit. Hope for the best 🙂

  • wandertheglobe

    According to McHale, DH12 has a bad back. IMHO, he’s at the end of his career, a shell of his former self. He doesn’t seem like a smart player and can’t shoot FTs, very one dimensional. Frankly, smart GMs would not throw money at him. I would take B Lopez or Ed Davis over Howard. Rockets fans are hoping that he’d opt-out of his $20M+ option.

  • Linzen

    So Batum is gone, because Jeremy is gone. 🙂
    Batman(um) in Brooklin confirmed!!!!!

  • travis

    i disagree

  • Phoenix Rising

    Well McHale is probably biased because Howard had him fired. No proof, just my guess based on everything I have read this year.

    Not saying Howard is perfect, but he is a very good match to Lin.

  • cdblue10

    I agree!!!

  • cdblue10

    I hope his agents will work night and days this time until they get the best deal they’ll get.

  • You’re welcome 🙂

    Most of us follow what JLin has been saying about “all NBA players want to start” repeatedly, “Greatness does not come by choosing easy or comfortable things” so it’s really not hard to notice a pattern of what he aspires to do in his career

    As for the title, I try to think what we need to remember about Game 7 a year from now to summarize what happened.

    It’s really about Cliff blowing his chance to earn Lin’s trust & earning 33pts blowout as a result LOL

  • HVJoy

    Same here! 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I was surprised Batum said so bc in the past he always said why not coach likes me….

  • DX

    Not favor with DH, would rather a younger and better PnR big like ED plays with Lin.

  • freemind

    Nic has this to say “I think it’s a little bit of everything – the coaching staff, the organization, the city and the players, too,” . Notice the order mentioned. The first two lacking mention in Lin’s interviews throughout the year Lin unless asked.

  • james brown

    harden was the culprit of mchale firing, not dwight.

  • wandertheglobe

    Howard could sue McHale if it were untrue. Howard doesn’t like PNR, he hated MDA’s system. He doesn’t set hard screen like Ed Davis or Tyson Chandler. I never liked him even when he was in Orlando. He just doesn’t have the BB IQ or the intensity like Shaq or some the the better Centers.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I must state I’m getting a bit worried Lin may re-sign with Charlotte and give them a discount…..Lin recently stated he loves this team and would love to come back…

    Man, I just hope he’s just being diplomatic and nice here because he’s been telling us all year how much he loves these guys and I’m frankly beginning to think he will actually come back because he believe this team could go further.

    I just hope Lin take into account his role and playing time before re-signing…With MKG back, his minutes will be sliced, specially if they bring Lee back too.

    Or maybe Lin is not sure whether he will actually get a bigger role from a new team so he’s simply protecting his spot in the Charlotte roster in case no one offers him a deal….I’m sure he was a bit snake-bit last year when everyone thought Dallas was ready to offer him a deal and than pulled out on him for Deron Williams…Maybe Lin is simply very weary about all these talks about him getting $10+mil offer sheats to sign.

    It remain to be seen whether teams like Net or Sixers will actually bid for Lin…Sixer could easily draft a PG with their lottery pick while Nets could try to sign Rondo or Conley and this could leave Lin in the cold, once again, with no team to call home.

  • james brown

    like always, jeremy lin’s words get buzzzz to the hilt..lots of hornets fans wished jlin be back but as backup to their fav player. they know it makes it easier for kemba to be an allstar if team always win thats why they like lin for he bring in win after win, (what kemba can’t!)

  • travis

    he hated playing with kobe he didnt hate playing in the system

  • freemind

    more important question : does kemba wants lin back? or does he gets his input ?
    more like he is probably conflicted – to win or let go of the one that shines brighter than him. He tend to look the aggressor in all their together on court pics.

  • CJSHYY

    KW said he wants everyone to come back… something like that… you know PR statement you have to say it no matter it’s real from your OS or not. LOL!

  • Phoenix Rising

    Harden loved McHale… He had a coach who would center the team’s entire offense around him, and gave him a free pass on defense. On the other hand, now we are learning how pissed off Howard has been with this organization, and their reluctance to change Harden’s behavior.

    And then there is the tweet/messages from McHale’s wife that Morey betrayed him. Makes me think this was a move made to keep Howard relaxed, make him think they were going to try and change the offense.

    But you could be right, why do you think it was Harden?

  • wandertheglobe
  • james brown

    he know politics too and understand it well. though he’s not reading all things in the internet, but his family and friends does. AJ rafael is his friend and he’s vocal on what cliff’s did this season. his parent knows whats best for jlin. Jeremy has enough of moral support unlike some players. he acknowledge his fan base and come FA time , his decision will be the best for him and for his fans!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Like Tim Bontemps said. Free agents almost always talk like they’re staying right after season.

  • james brown

    kemba has his coach for his protection.

  • CJSHYY

    & his boss.

  • james brown

    dwight has no power before and now as compare to harden..think it over, if harden like mchale very much, why was there no resistance from him when he was replaced? he played well after the firing and seems not bothered by it, while dwights performance dwindled and decreased…

  • Phoenix Rising

    Probably because they were losing… Morey convinced him that keeping Howard happy is in his best interests. I agree, in comparison Howard has less power… But in absolute terms he was the 2nd most powerful “superstar” on the team

  • jolno

    Notice how quickly Lin stopped talking about how well the coach is using him on the court once the actual regular season started. I still remember about reading articles about the main reason Lin signed so little in Charlotte is because he would like to play in a system where he is correctly utilized. After the Rockets and Lakers experience, Lin knew all about the dirty politics in the NBA. This is precisely why he insisted on the opt-out clause because he knew chances are the Hornets will be exactly like his previous experiences, i.e. fake promises.

    Well, just try to contrast Batum and Lin’s exit press sessions. Batum was talking about how this is the first time in his career that he’s utilized the way he wanted while Lin kept talking about how he likes his teammates and stuff like that. But Jeremy, how do you like the way you’re being used ON THE COURT? Lin only threw in a subtle hint in that he’s not afraid to change teams (like him coming to Charlotte in the first place) if he can have a chance at better treatment ON THE COURT. I think it’s extremely likely that Lin will leave if a starting opportunity is presented to him let it be the Nets or Sixers. As for the Hornets, they can enjoy hosting the ASG manufacturing “top-10 PG now” Kemba while missing the playoffs again.

  • wandertheglobe

    I’m pretty sure if teams come knocking with starting position (read Nets/Sixers), even if Charlotte offers more money, I think Lin will bolt.

  • Mr Chuckles

    This makes me vomit in my mouth a little.

  • JLin Exit Interview

    I probably will create a new thread on this later
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/727211547060097024

  • Yuyang Deng

    Strongly agree, it’s all PR stuff for now, it is still early for Lin to know where would be better for him. Just like how Lin first thought he would sign with Mavericks, and then all of a sudden signed with Hornet. Actions speaks louder than words, based on Lin’s body language and emotions shown in Game 7, I can tell he is done with this team and he wants to move on

  • LinMad

    it already sounds like he has his mind made to move on.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    So do you think all this talk about offering Charlotte a discount to return is simply Lin being diplomatic and if he’s offered a starting spot on another team, he will take it?

    Some of Lin’s quote are very strong when it comes to re-signing with Charlotte…Last year, he had stated he wouldn’t mind coming back to play for the Lakers but we all knew than that the Lakers didn’t want Lin back.

    Now, it looks like Lin is saying coming back to play for Charlotte is his preference and if Charlotte wants him back, Lin will be back.

    Man, I must say that I will be very disappointed with Lin if he comes back..Let’s hope he takes a few weeks to think this through…Maybe he’s not aware that he will not get 25mpg next year…Maybe someone needs to tweet it to him…Doesn’t Lin care about playing time?

  • alain gervais

    I was thinking the opposite

  • Yuyang Deng

    we should all have faith in Lin. He is gonna follow his heart and that’s the most important, remember what he said in Linsanity film

    Jeremy Lin: “I always told myself, my progression is gonna be become a rotation player, become starting point guard, and then win an NBA championship. And people are definitely gonna laugh when they hear that. You know, they’re not gonna be laughing if it actually happens.” — Linsanity (2013)

    I’m sure his goal to be a starting point guard never wavers and through his tremendous performance in this playoff series, he definitely deserves to start in next season!

    In Lin we trust, he is and always will be a winner!

  • LinMad

    ok I didn’t finish watching lol. At the start it sounded that way. He won’t give a definite answer but he said he does want to come back.

  • What’s clear from the bleary eyes and somber tone was the disappointment from losing Game 6 and 7

    All the polite replies were automatic but genuine about the positives playing with the Hornets.

    But yes, when he talked about “Cliff didn’t lie but what he said came true this year”, he seemed to talk in the past tense about the limited role in the Hornets this year. He didn’t talk about the excitement of coming back to be stronger, etc.

  • Steppen03

    No Way! JL7 will not be coming back to Hornets. #1) he’s been thru it and now knows what Hornets can and cannot offer. #2) more opportunities this coming FA. #3) worst scenario – even if no starting job avail. JL7 is better off elsewhere than Hornets – at least he’s the 2nd option versus the 3rd option in Charlotte.

  • LinMad

    I think he is looking to sort everythign out before signing with them next year. He probably wants to know if he’ll play a bigger role next year for the Hornets or not. Also, if Batum doesn’t sign or if Hornets dont’ want to sign him, that actually isnt that bad if Hornets can find a big man who can PnR with Lin.

  • Win

    Did JLin said “The last hurts”?

  • alain gervais

    He looks broken up for the loss. He said cliff will talk to him and others later. About the future. He also said Cliff has been very honest and everything he promised him was true. He did say he took a little time adjusting to playing different roles because players got hurt or playing verses different teams would make his minutes go from 15 to 50 but all in all cliff kept his promise

  • I don’t think he has made his mind yet.

    But I’m glad he clarified that he understands $$ is important in team’s investment. although personally it’s not that important for him

    He’s not gullible. This part was not reported in the many Hornets tweets LOL

  • Win

    And did he looks like he was crying a little?

  • alain gervais

    He didn’t say his role was limited just all over the place. Lin is very blunt. He does seem to want to come back. He also said he didn’t think about free agency yet. Or talk to his agent about it. He also said cliff will call him to talk about it at another time

  • LinMad

    I think he’s tired of bouncing around. But I feel that if another organization dangle something over his head that is much more better, he might get it.

    It’s still unclear what Hornets want to do. I say, if they keep most of their bigs + Batum, Lin should leave. If they discard some of their bigs and Batum and they promise that they will get guys that compliment him, he should stay. Im just tired of seeing the guards Kemba and Lin getting zero screens. They also need more rebounds.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I hope you are right but the quote that he made this morning are really troubling to all of us who would like him to be gone…..I’m a very worried Lin fan because Lin will play less next year with MKG back. He will only play Kemba’s back-up minutes which is like 12 minutes since Kemba averaged 36 minutes this year.

    Let’s pray Lin’s agent could knock a bit of sense into him.

  • I thought it’s good that Lin said what Cliff promised was true (about the off-the-bench role with occasional starts) so his fans won’t accuse Cliff as a liar.

    But again, there was no commendation that he loves how Cliff coaches him that he wants to go back playing for him. He understood about the limited role in the Hornets

  • LinMad

    I feel like if Hornets let Batum go, they can keep Lin and find other guys too using Batum’s salary. I don’t think Batum is worth anywhere near $27 million a year. Give Lin $14 mln and you can also bring 2 more guys in at $6-7 mln with Batum’s salary. It will give Hornets lots of breathing space if they let Batum go.

  • Win

    Well, JLin got one thing right. Salary does mean much to him but salary also = to the respect at the same time.

  • alain gervais

    He mention the playing 15 minute to 50. He did say it was an “adjustment”.

  • He definitely didn’t say “limited role” to the reporters because it would be impolite and not classy.

    I think it’s too early to conclude anything from this interview 1 day after Game 7 loss.

    He’s clearly disappointed and he correctly said all the right things to want to come back to the Hornets. I don’t expect anything less.

    Without knowing all future offers from other teams, Lin scored an A+ in the exit interview with the Hornets to say all the right things.

  • LinMad

    The real issue on Hornets is that they have too much depth. They need to let go of a few players who threaten to take Lin’s minutes at PG/SG. The only one I can think of is Batum. Not only does Lin have to co-exist with Kemba but with Batum also. And we’ve seen how horrible that lineup is when all 3 are together. They all look confused. If Hornets go for Batum 100% with a max contract, Lin should bounce immediately. That means Hornets won’t be looking to build the bench around Lin. They just want Kemba/Batum to babysit the bench next season and dig into everyone’s minutes. I still don’t know why they signed Lamb for $21 mln and didn’t even play him.

  • alain gervais

    He was very forthcoming and logical.

  • wandertheglobe

    I think reporters love to interview Lin. He always gives articulate and genuine answers.

  • CJSHYY

    OMG, I just watched his interview & I thought he’s going back to Lakers. But I started to worry & sort of believe his talk is not PR to me after saw this video. I am going to depress if he stays….. smh!

  • Win

    Same here. I am afraid he is willing to sacrifice his role and $ because of how he was enjoying playing with his teammates and the friendships he has. Which a normal NBA PLAYER WILL NOT DO.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t believe this… He’s too emotion person…

  • Win

    Good people always end up to be the one who sacrifices.

    🙁

  • CJSHYY

    I am too upset now. It’s not PR w this talk he’s not getting other offers….

  • Win

    Me now…..

  • Win

    I think it was only a PR talks on Clifford.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Man, this sounds like he really REALLY wants to come back…So sad to hear how emotional he sounded…It felt like he’s begging the Hornets to take him back.

    Maybe Lin knows something we don’t. Maybe he feels that no team will offer him the chance to start with large contract so he’s trying hard to protect his roster spot with the Hornets.

  • Briiick

    Don’t need to over analyze what Lin said now. He is a very intelligent guy. Thank all fans who want to make a decision for him, LOL.

  • vincent

    I honestly don’t think Lin will be coming back to Charlotte. Remember there was an interview with Doc Scheppler saing that he didn’t like the situation Lin was in this year. It seems like there is a pecking order in which people take their shots starting with Kemba and Lin was lke the 6th option. So I believe Doc will talk with Lin a lot about this and would definitely be enough to convince him from returning to Charlotte.

  • Acbc

    It’s very curious that people choose the wrong products for themselves. Choosing Kemba over Lin makes very little logical sense. To this point I had written this little piece on addiction and the psychology of consumerism 8 days ago. Hope you don’t mind my repeating it as it seems even more appropriate now more than ever.

    ” I’m reading a book call “Buy…ology” . It’s about the science behind how marketers get us to buy their stuff.

    Right in the beginning of the book, they sighted a study of the effectiveness of negative advertising on consumer use of cigarettes. The huge skull and bones labels on the cigarettes did nothing to deter smoking. Scientists use brain scan to measure brain activity to note reaction of participants.

    The bottom line, even though the smokers knew it was bad for them, they couldn’t stop. They all repeated to say the right things. They said they knew the health risks, they knew the financial costs, the stigma, etc. They saw the ugly pictures on the label but still smoked.

    HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

    It turned out that these people’s brain activity spiked even more desire to smoke with every admission of self inflicted danger. INSTEAD IF DETERRING THE ACTVITY, IT STIMULATED AND ELAVATED THE DRIVE TO SMOKE!

    KEMBA IS A CANCEROUS DRUG TO THE HORNETS. LIN IS THE WARNING LABEL THAT PROMISES A CURE. THE MORE WE SHOW THEM THE TRUTH, THE MORE THEY WANT TO SMOKE KEMBARETTES.”

  • CJSHYY

    It’s so weird… He didn’t look happy but all the talked about stays… But these talk it’s not PR to me. Don’t get it…. ???

  • FreetheMind

    Just saw this article: http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets-free-agency-050216

    I seriously hope Lin is not this bad at negotiations. Why negotiate against yourself before the free agency? Lin should state that yeah sure he wants to stay if he has a more defined role and get paid the right amount. Money is not the most important but money is also the determining factor for respect. If he is paid chump change, he will be a bench player that only get to play when they got no one else available. I feel like these comments are career suicide comments.

  • FreetheMind

    Only way I can see Lin stays if Batum also take a huge discount to stay. No way Lin should stay if Batum gets the max and expect him to take a huge discount. That’s just insulting. Batum is not a better player than JLIN.

  • CJSHYY

    Check the video. Tell me what you think? I am too shock to see that now… smh!

  • wandertheglobe

    This was an emotional interview a day after losing G7. I would give him a few days to digest, talk to family, agents and decide on his future. I wouldn’t quickly jump into a conclusion that Charlotte is the only place Lin will consider.

    Also, Charlotte media have been reporting that Lin is willing to come back at a discount. Unless I missed it, no where on the interview I heard Lin said that. I thought Lin said something like – He came to CLT at a discount to find the right fit. But pay is also important on how the organization value him. So, the buzz now is Lin will come back on a discount based on Charlotte writers?

  • 22cents

    Honestly, the decision will be made by Lin and his team. Even if Lin wants to stay, his team will try to convince him. That is why Lin signed less money with hornet last summer. Lin is in emotion mode now. When the dust settle down, a clear picture will emerge.

    What Lin said does not matter. What is matter is “What will happen in the summer”.

    A good leader needs to listen to his team. Lin is a good leader.

  • Briiick

    I don’t watch or listen to people that closely. PR is cheap.

  • Win

    No matter what, I would like to see at least 10 mils per years and a multiple years contract.

  • Howan Cheung

    At least on the clippers Lin will be on a contender. Don’t like Chris Paul, but on the Hornets team Lin will be even more misused next year I fear.

  • wandertheglobe

    Lemmings spreading false narrative?

    I listened to the interview, unless I missed it, no where on the interview I heard Lin said that. I thought Lin said something like – He came to CLT at a discount to find the right fit. But pay is also important on how the organization value him. So, the buzz now is Lin will come back on a discount based on Charlotte writers?

  • Acbc

    In negotiation, it’s often necessary to disarm first then proceed on common grounds. It’s not a fight that should ever bring in emotions. A good negotiator gets most of what he wants but always leave some crumbs for the other party to save face.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I was wondering the same thing…Why is he showing his card so blatantly…He basically said he wouldn’t mind coming back at a discount…Who says stuff like this? specially when your playing time will not even be guaranty to hit 15mpg.

    I’m getting increasingly frustrated with Lin. Let’s hope a team can come in and give him a deal he can’t refuse.

  • heart

    Just watched the Lin’s exit interview video, you can tell Lin is speaking in a very emotional state and he looks physically fatigue. His bleary eyes tell me that he took the loss hard and he values friendships and relationships. The thought of losing or advancing to the next round is still on his mind. The thought of not potentially be able to hang around and play with this season’s teammates are tearing him apart emotionally. He needs some time to get away from this situation before speaking. I blame his manager for not helping or giving him good advice before speaking to the press. His family and friends should also give him some advice to not say too much right. When you’re in this type of emotional state like loosing a loved one, you’re very vulnerable and can make bad decision. I don’t like what I heard and I hope God will grant him wisdom and rest to see through this…

  • PPP

    he doesn’t need to protect his roster spot if he really afraid of losing it. He just simply opt in his 2nd year.

  • David Kim

    Lin doesnt look happy…

  • CJSHYY

    What do you think his talk?

  • Sesshie

    He’s probably emotional after saying goodbye to his teammates. He has developed a few good friendships in Hornets but it’s also time to move on. It’s like graduation from high school or college. I’m sure he will consider all offers before making his decision.

  • Win

    It is really not that complicated to be honest. It is all about how JLin value things.

    If Lin value the friendships, chemistry, and happiness over his dream, $, starting position, etc. Then please don’t be surprised to see Lin back with the Hornets.

    If it was all PR talk and he is still chasing his dream, then Lin will be sign elsewhere.

  • Sesshie

    We shall see. Summer is still a few months away. I’m confident that whatever choice JLin choose would be in his mind the best thing to do.

  • freemind

    definitely emotional after G7 lost. He said cold bloody and going for the kill in one sentence LOL . with this mental competitiveness in mind, hard to see him continue in this role tho?

  • Win

    Same here. Is his life and I 100% respect whatever his decision is.

  • wandertheglobe

    I agree. It’s always hard to leave a good situation. But give him time to digest, talk to family, agents and think clearly. I’m sure he’ll make a right decision what’s best for Jeremy Lin. As fans, we want him to get away from Charlotte as soon as possible and we want Lin to say what we wanted to hear, that’ll never happen. Lin is smart.

  • cdblue10

    But this is inviting more haters if he chooses to go to another team next year since he already said that he definitely wants to come back,He put himself in a position that’s hard to negotiate in increasing his value.Big contract means value and value will get him respect to play a better role in the league.

  • Win

    Big contract maybe mean value to you but might not be for JLin.

    Is like, some people value $ is the most important thing. Some value Love over money. Etc, etc.

    And don’t get me wrong. I do wanna see JLin as a starting PG next season.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Exactly. Even he said he wanted to stay but…. What do you think?

  • cdblue10

    I understand where you coming from but this is cut throat league and it just doesn’t work that way

  • Win

    Agreed. But good people always end up to be the one who sacrifices.

  • cdblue10

    Well I think Lin is just being Lin

  • wandertheglobe

    Right. I don’t think he’ll settle either. Emotional fans reaction on emotional Lin. The sky is falling and that’s not always the case.

  • Win

    I hope he is a more business type person = all BS on what he said in the exit interview and he is already planning how can he get a starting PG position.

    Hehehe.

  • 22cents

    Lin said that he will definitely come back?

    As what? A Hornet or a different uniform?

  • CJSHYY

    I know I don’t get what’s w him? He wants to play his team ball so badly so he agreed to pay cut…?? Kemba is more & more like Harden now what made Lin thinks Kemba will agree to do it. smh!

  • Honestly, the only way JLin comes back to the Hornets is if they offer to start him and there are no better offers out there.

    Lin might be emotional 1-day after the loss but he’s been adamant about wanting to start repeatedly this season.

  • 22cents

    Agreed! What he said now does not count. What he sign this summer will count!

  • gasparthe2nd

    Sometimes retreating (or seeming to give way) would put others off guard. Lin may naturally enjoy being with the hornets and seems not to be demanding; but other teams (perhaps the Bulls or the NYNets, for instance) may need and pay good money for a PG of Lin’s calibre.

    So, the bidding may commence soon enough (if it hasn’t already). No STRESS. Lin loves the hornets, or so he says, and hence may those teams that value Lin’s expertise BID. Hornets included. And may the best (paying) team win!! [Lin, that is]

  • Lin’s agent can call Nets/76ers GMs who read the “Lin Will Give Discount To Stay with the Hornets” headline and says, “Lin really likes it there. You really need to up your offer if you seriously want him to come”

  • Win

    I hope so as I really want to see JLin as a starting PG next season.

    NO MORE BACK UP!!!!!!!!!!

  • BobbyH

    Lin mentioned several points in the exit interview:

    1, He will opt out and possibly to get a long term deal, that he will talk to his agents.
    2. Money is not important, but it is important in terms of how much the organization invests.

    Actually I am glad that Lin made these 2 points. Lin understands $$ means respect in this league. So Lin will not take the discount to play anywhere else. But would Hornets has the same thought value on Lin even if Lin is willing to take $32M/4 year? I doubt. As long as there are other offers on the table even if it is not starting, Lin is a goner.

  • GameWatcher

    If Thunders get sweeped by SAS, Clippers is just another playoff fodder teams.

  • Win

    Haha. Good one. Better pay me Nets/76ers…

  • Win

    Number 2 is the most important point. Yeah Lin is rich and don’t value $ as important. But at the same time $ = Respect and that exactly he is looking for.

    Good sign. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    Do you think there will be a starting position for Lin in Hornets?

  • DX

    Be honest, Hornets won’t put Lin on top list and Lin won’t put Hornets on top list too.

  • I give free tips to Roger Montgomery 🙂
    Feel free to support by retweeting it LOL
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/727236241486278656

  • freemind

    Being lead of the bible study group for the past year and the thought of possibility not being with his fellow mates again might have resulted to how he responded and how he repeated talk about his teammates being the best.

  • Win

    Nope. Not a chance. Not even if Batum leave.

  • FreetheMind

    One way I can see Lin stays with the Hornets if Batum signs elsewhere. In that case, Hornets will have Kemba, Lin, Lee, and Lamb as main guards. They can keep MKG at SF. Frankly, it will solve a lot of issues. I keep hearing Batum is top priority so if he does sign for max, Lin needs to bail.

  • Only if Batum leaves so Lin can be SG

    But if 76ers & Nets offer better freedom as a PG, it’s “Hasta La Vista, baby” 🙂

  • heart

    1. Adding to my earlier post– I’m very disappointed to hear Lin said that he wants to return to Hornets and willing take less money. 2. I give him a pass for now. Bc Lin is speaking in an emotional state and from his own point of view w/o knowing all the facts of what will happen. That is what kind of offers, in terms of $, role & minutes Hornets will give him the 2nd time around. Will all his teammates be back? Doubt it. Chemistry and culture can change when the likes like NB likely will get max and KW w/ lesser pg skills, who only plays for stats and is the face of the franchise. KW will want to increase his stature this coming season even more when the All-Star Game will be in Charlotte–More money, more publicity, and more envy will play even a bigger part in this coming season. Not to forget, MKG will be back. CLee will be playing behind MKG if he stays, thus he gave a very diplomatic answer when asked in post game 5 (I think). He said he understands that this is a business and if both sides agree then he would want to return.
    3. Perhaps Lin is being realistic, he may realize or know it before all of us that NBA is a good old-boy network, and they might not want an AA NBA player to be the face of any franchise. If this is the case, his agent needs to do a better job for him.
    4. Perhaps Lin had changed his goal. If he did, he needs to tell his fans. If not, Lin, you are better than these guys, please stop putting yourself down and please move on from this org. to fulfill your dream and potential.

  • Win

    I would say Clifford will play Lee as SG before Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so but I doubt he will listen to his agent. Lin had strong mind about his own opinion…. He really wants everything to go w his team ball theory.

  • BobbyH

    The team ball theory has to have everyone from top to bottom to buy in like Spurs and GSW. I am sorry, not Hornets.

  • JoeTeam

    Hey everyone, relax. This is just the first positioning that ends with his management team playing a key role.

    No big deal what he said today. It’s just market signaling, like, it’s GO Time.

  • JoeTeam

    you stud, you know what it is. This btw is also the easiest way to get a true ring from CHA, to start soft. His set point for speedy negotiations is to know where his first offer truly stands minute 1. Lots of gambits to come, and thankfully, we will not know of any of it as it would break the website lol.

  • CJSHYY

    I rewatch his interview again. I think he’s serious not PR talk…. He’s a very emotion person so if they agree to continue play his team ball then he really will stay…. seems not care about position or playing time anymore at least for now…

  • JoeTeam

    aw, hug to the nice kid. Me, a tough dad with a soft heart.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s exactly how I feel… but Lin seems to be happy w what they gave it to him so far? Really don’t get it…?

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t think so lol. If they can’t buy a bucket during 2 tough games, it’s a think bench.

  • LinMad

    I think Lin knows he’ll be getting some big offers this off season. Stating to the media that he wants to stay in Charlotte makes other teams willing to offer him even bigger bucks to get him away from that organization. I expect $20 mln/year

  • CJSHYY

    20 M? I thought he can get 12 M but I want him out of Hornets…

  • Win

    Sorry if I offend anyone but I found it EXTREMELY FUNNY that there are people still believe Batum deserve a max contract.

    IMO, he does but ONLY TO THE HORNETS……………

  • DX

    Is free agency starting on July 1st? Fortunately, still have 2 months.

  • LinMad

    From his season performances and playoffs, he is no where near max. He got injured so many times this season and it was over small stuff like his toe. Besides MKG and Al, he was probably third most injury proned player on this team who rested the third most games in the season.

    I can’t remember any big games he had this season. He probably had a very few but I can’t remember them at all. It’s strange because for someone who might be getting max contract, shouldn’t he be having games that are memorable? The only things I can remember of Batum this season are the games where he did get like 11 assists but at the same time, he’s had games where he had 9-11 turnovers.

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  • Linzen

    Don’t be disappointed. Our boy really values the friendship he has built here. And, I believe that extends to the coaching staff as well (e.g. Silas). That’s very admirable.
    Comparing with Lakers, Rockets and Knicks, Hornets really has been a paradise. But, it doesn’t mean his next team can’t be better.
    I don’t think (at least I hope not) he has changed his goal. But now, he is certainly presented with some dilemma… leave this group of friends to pursuit his dream/goal?

    I think he will leave!

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  • Briiick

    Yeah. It takes some effort to sort out the gems. If one really likes to over analyze graduation speeches, better focuses on the right words.

  • cdblue10

    Exactly what I am talking about!!!!!

  • Linzen

    BTW, when can agents call prospective team? Is there a rule governing this?
    If not, you should pick up your phone NOW, Roger!

  • freemind

    Even Nylon Calculus writer agrees . need to twt to Lins agent

    https://twitter.com/bbstats/status/727189797308092417

  • JoeTeam

    Here’s an anchor point to the exit interview that psalm posted. From a guy who’s seen a lot of teams going for broke, and really focusing on the EQ of teams and people:

    1. I don’t think JLin was emo in a way that weakened him. In fact, he was genuine and it strengthened his stand
    2. He talked about 2 cracks at the win and needing to be “cold blooded, step on the neck, and going for the kill” and it doesn’t come around too often – that’s the perspective of a champion. If you want to play around all day walking it into a goal, or if you just want to strike it to score, the latter is what makes champions. The former are good players.
    3. clear framework – disappointed but no regrets. That’s a strong boy!
    4. loves his teammates – that is what he’s signaling everyone who wants him. We will love each other.
    5. “So you wanna be part of this core then for years to come?” “Yeah, I would love to”. “We’ll see” That means he will try if they meet his terms.
    6. Also his focus on all 15 team members caring and doing things together … yes, that is hard to find.
    7. Amazingly powerful interview, setting himself up for many options!

    I think if he gets promised as a Slash brother, he’s there. If not, then he’s heading to riskier waters. We’d be happy but I would love to see him play with a better set of bigs, and a less ISO guard partner.

    Be happy fellow fans … Jlin did not let you down, he took it to the rim yet again!

  • vincent

    batum is a good role player who has been given the best possible role he’ll ever find with Charlotte. He is NOT a max player he is a slightly above average player. Kemba is a great scorer, but his play is detrimental to the team. However, Charlotte has built Kemba up to be their STAR player, which he obviously is not. Batum is a max player to Charlotte because he is given a pretty big role, but also because no other max Small forward would ever want to play alongside Kemba. Chandler Parsons for example is a much better player than Batum IMO, but would never want the role Batum is in alongside Kemba.

  • alain gervais

    Btw it was reported then Lin would take a discount but HE didn’t exactly say that. He just said he doesn’t care about money/ but also that money show respect.

  • Darin Tanaka

    Don’t let any of this “I want to be back next year” talk fool you. The NBA is a business and Lin of all people is smart enough to know this. In fact he’s quoted as saying “Money is important because it shows the teams investment in you”, so no way he’s taking a discount in the prime of his career.

    My opinion on Lin saying that he would come back for a discount is that he wants other teams to know that they better pony up big amounts of money if they want to pry him away from the Hornets. Based on everything he’s said, imo he’s definitely looking to leave but wants teams to spend a large amount of money so he’ll have a guaranteed starting spot.

  • Briiick

    Thanks for translating it !

  • JJ Hui

    Even though you dont need the money bcause you have too much, but highest pay means respect and the coach respect you and afraid you fired him! Now you got this right, Jlin!

  • Linzen

    Yup, strong drive to the rim without any fear! 👆🏻
    I think he really treasures all his teammates & coach Silas. But, I don’t think he will give up his dream (he didn’t do it for Parsons for what it’s worth) just because of this.

  • yes, it was presumptuous for the CHA reporters to say Lin will take a discount without mentioning that $$ shows respect and investment

    They want JLin to resign so badly as a backup PG to the Hornets.
    Deep down they know Lin helps Kemba to star.
    But Lin can win big games (Cavs/Spurs) that Kemba can’t.
    They know it makes no sense for JLin to stay behind Kemba’s shadow if teams offer starting PGs

    It’s called desperate-journalism

  • JoeTeam

    I read this as: If JLin comes back, I’m back.

  • JJ Hui

    Sorry if i offend anyone But I FOUND IT EXTREMELY FUNNY that even though Batum is 27 years old and same age with Lin (born in 1988) he runs like old grandpa, he is too slow!

  • alain gervais

    Well he kinda insinuated he would take less money. They should of wrote it as the truth. Maybe some one ask if he would take a discount and he said yea money don’t matter but later on said it did because it shows respect. Again Lin was clearly thinking on his feet because he on one hand said i don’t care about many then said it matter for respect. Anyways its clear lins want to return but hasn’t really though about it that deeply yet. He probably just begin today

  • Linzen

    Batum is certainly NOT a max contract player.
    And a max contract doesn’t guarantee his return to Hornets either. He says the driving factor is who is “COMING BACK”.

    We all know KW and MKG are definitely back. So, they are NOT important in NB’s POV. So, if they are not that important, who is/are? By bet is his locker room neighbour. 🙂

  • Briiick

    Yeah, they wish Lin continues to do the heavy weight lifting while KW harvests the credit.

  • zxcvb

    Yep. He gets to come off as a team player while letting teams know they have to PRY him away. Not just offer a starting spot for cheap.

  • alain gervais

    Well he kinda insinuated he would take less money. They should of wrote it as the truth. Maybe some one ask if he would take a discount and he said yea money don’t matter but later on said it did because it shows respect. Again Lin was clearly thinking on his feet because he on one hand said i don’t care about money then said it matter for respect. Anyways its clear lins want to return but hasn’t really thought about it that deeply yet. He probably just begin today

  • zxcvb

    “…if that could happen” LOL. That says it all.

  • takeme2cruz

    He will never trust Clifford ever again.

  • Rick Johnson

    Exactly, agree wholeheartedly. From the clip I didn’t actually hear him say would come back at a discount as some reporter reported but could have been off tape or could have been that reporters wishful listening that distorted the report.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Honestly speaking, I don’t wish another season of frustration supporting this bunch of Hornets next season. If JLin wishes to stay (which I doubt) playing backup to Kemba then I may reduce watching NBA and move on.

  • Rick Johnson

    I’d like to now if they asked Batum if he’d come back at a discount? If not why ask it of Lin but not Batum?

  • JoeTeam

    nah, he paid that to college some amazing victories and battle tape, vetted by fans and NBA pundits alike. Cliff didn’t do anything except run his normal job.

  • JJ Hui

    Come back as a starter and 15 million a year, or else nooooooo!

  • Dan Ang

    Let them talk…bottom line, Lin’s agent aint doing his job if JLin isn’t paid $$$ next season.

  • heart

    Chandler wants to get paid even more. That guy is full of it!

  • JoeTeam

    well, he said clearly that Cliff delivered what he promised and he also deliver what he promised Cliff. So, I don’t think it’s a reframe to get into a weak position – I think he’s just saying Cliff owes it to him to negotiate in good faith because they respected each other’s wishes in the current deal that he’s about to opt out on.

  • JJ Hui

    He should say ” i take one step at a time and now is too early to decide anything because everything is not sure at this time.”

  • JoeTeam

    If you read what Batum said, he and JLin are saying the same thing. If certain players are there, meaning the team is the thing, then they will stay. I wonder if both of them want KW there? When you read about both of them saying this was their chance, do they see KW’s role in blowing it? I know Batum did not play well in the last game, but really, it’s not why they lost. They lost because KW had no sense of how to control either of the last 2 games. Last game, he just collapsed and became a crazy streetballer, getting rejected in midrange. I’ve never even seen a guy get rejected midrange in gym ball.

  • BobbyH

    Lin specifically used to word “lie” to clarify the situation. So that implies Lin is still not happy with the development of his roles, which should be more, even though that falls into what Cliff had promised.

  • BobbyH

    You meant both Batum/Lin won’t come back if KW is there?

  • CJSHYY

    I thought Batum sounds like he wants Lin to come back so he will be back… nothing to do w KW?

  • takeme2cruz

    To me that’s just talk.

  • BobbyH

    It is still too early. It is only day 1 and still have 59 days to go. Anything can happen.

  • JoeTeam

    ok, I gotta rewatch that because I didn’t hear him use the lie word. Did he say something like Cliff didn’t lie to him? If so, he’s alluding to the possibility that Cliff told him a white lie or fooled him with a gray-area promise. What did you mean?

  • JoeTeam

    Well, maybe I don’t speak JLin as well as I think. But ya, I’m trying to help calm the knee-jerk responses because Jlin really was just opening up the business discussions and everything is based on what his managers may advise. “I still have to talk to my managers” = this is just a first shot over the bow and if things aren’t dealt with in a win/win, I will tell my dogs to bark and bite.

  • BobbyH

    Why Lin bring up the word of “lie”? That means the expectations from both sides WERE not on the same page. After some closed-door discussions, Lin and Cliff were clear on the role Lin should play.

    That’s my take.

  • heart

    That’s why I said his manager and family should have given him advice prior to this press interview. He’s still emotional and remiss of what could have been w/ Game 7 loss. Cliff lost that game when they had a chance, but he played politics instead of focused on winning. He deliberately bench Lin in Game 6 & 7. To think that Lin would want to play for Cliff again makes my head hurt. I pray God will take him to a better situation than he can ever imagined to fulfill his destiny.

  • rookie75094

    Just like the old coolies railroad days….doing all the hard work without getting credit for it and with minimal pay at that… I hate these bugs!!

  • sws94

    He’s talking to the Hornets media but I’ve come to the conclusions that on Lin sites, we place priorities that are popular here and put them on Lin and don’t always read Lin very well. I hope we have respect for his choice and continue to support him because, he may end up on the Hornets for another season or more.

  • JoeTeam

    Ha ha I see it now … Lin hears the question, licks his lips knowingly (yeah baby, a sweet question) and says, “Yeah, you know, he’s not one to sugarcoat or really lie to you …” everything else is Charlie Brown wa wa wa ..

    Nice catch, BobbyH. So yeah, you know, JLin feels there has been lies for Cliff to repair. Good good catch, bro!

    4:45 sec:
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2016/05/02/1462212273508-Exit-Interview—Jeremy-Lin.mp4-491582

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  • Yascar

    I was just about to say that. It’s his life and his choices. And he’s a fine young man with the right outlook on life. He’ll make a decision that is best for him and his family, and we’re just along for the ride. You gotta admit, it’s been a heck of a journey so far.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, but both of them stated it was their chance. So, if they are both highlighting this, who blew it? I think they aren’t too happy with the KW ISO.

  • JoeTeam

    Not sure it’s get rid of KW, but it’s … let’s fix this thing that caused us not to ‘put a foot on the neck’ etc.

  • spiderman

    Still looking for an Asian discount

  • BobbyH

    He is happy off court. Not on court.

  • takeme2cruz

    At the highest stock rating now, if Lin wants to commit a career suicidal, why should fans support him to go such a path?

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I don’t get it. Why Lin said he’s happy to stay here? Kemba ISO will be more & more now…?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s up to Hornets to make an offer now. Less money means less from $$$$. Certainly not less from what he’s making now Teams will not hesitate to offer Lin a better role and pay for Lin’s service now.

  • CJSHYY

    Did you watch the video? What do you think?

  • sws94

    You can disagree with him. But it is his life, career, journey and we are fans.

  • webattorney

    As an example, many Lin fans felt that Cliff or Cho lied to him about his PT and the way he would be played. But in his exist interview Lin reiterated several times that there was no false expectation and Cliff did what he said. Consistent with what I thought, so no surprise there for me.

    Nothing about discount in the exist interview video I saw. Maybe he said it somewhere else. Weird.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    If they offered $21m/3 years for Jeremy Lamb, how much more should they offer for Lin?

  • alain gervais

    What he said made me feel a disturbance in the force. Still it is his choice

  • BobbyH

    Lin is definitely not happy for his on court role. If you listen to interview carefully, he mentioned more than once “on the court” and the killer mode for game 6 and game 7. That means Lin still wants NBA championship badly, not just staying in this team with nowhere to go in the playoff and be content and surrounded with friendship and false love from organization and local media. Nah, nah, nah.

    Even if Lin has the slighted thought of staying, his agents won’t allow, not to mention his inner group, which is basically the whole people with experience and wisdom. Especially when Lin brought up the $$ and respect, I think Lin will leave.

  • sws94

    It’s how he feels now. He’s fresh off of the playoffs, season and as I thought, hasn’t given much thought to FA because he was enjoying the season and focused on the playoffs. I think he expressed how he feels now. And we’ll see if any of that changes in later interviews as he has more time away from the end of the season and teammates.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    People should read him his right.

  • CJSHYY

    W this talk like that do you think other teams still will talk to him?

  • CJSHYY

    I am shock…. I always thought he will back to Lakers.

  • takeme2cruz

    Noooo. it can’t be. All this time I thought what’s his is mine too.

  • webattorney

    No usage of “lie” word to accuse Cliff. JoeTeam is interpreting it correctly.

  • alain gervais

    For me it was Booklyn or NY but i am bias because i am from there lol

  • donsmacau

    I’ve come to the conclusion that on Hornets sites they are so irrationally desperate to keep JLIN as a backup on their bench that they will hear anything that makes them feel better about what they think will happen.

    I hope we have respect for JLIN’s choice because he will end up in a different uniform within 2 months.

  • webattorney

    Lin not accusing anyone. Lin not happy but not saying he was lied to either. He has no complaint regarding this year. As for next year, it’s another issue.

  • BobbyH

    I think there is only 1% that MJ will trade KW and keep Lin/Batum and maybe lure Howard. But it takes lots of guts to do that. We don’t know the politics dynamics there. But I would be pleasantly surprise if MJ do that.

  • CJSHYY

    But after watched that video… I think he’s serious not PR at all. What do you think?

  • webattorney

    Maybe same here but in opposite direction. People will hear what they want to hear.

  • Linzen

    I agree. The $ will certainly be higher. But, I think the most important thing to Lin (and all of us actually) is whether he will start and play a more important role. Sitting on the bench with under 20 minutes playtime just doesn’t do it.
    And yes, I am really optimistic about this off season. A lot of teams will knock on the door offering better role and $.

  • webattorney

    What the video and go with what YOU think. That’s the best approach. I watched and I am confident that he will consider everything and that he believes the money is important in that it indicates how much the team values him.

  • Yes, we do have concerned fans who want the best for him.
    Lin’s family and friends probably will give him a lot of advice.

    But at the end of the day, I hope all of us would respect his choice whatever it might be (i.e. Nets/76ers/Hornets starter or backup) because it’s his career and life.

    As fans we can only express our support. It should never be about us living vicariously through his life that we become upset if he doesn’t make the same choices that we would do.
    That won’t be healthy 🙂

    We can only respectfully discuss our opinions to learn from one another and hope for the best for JLin.

  • JoeTeam

    I see it that he can’t fix that problem in the press. They had 2 games where they were doing great, that Cliff complimented the 2 way and it did look like JLin too them there and KW was able to finish it out (with JLin focusing on D). The that got broken because MIA adjusted, and KW and Cliff collapsed to ISO loser style, which we all know but they did it anyway.

  • alain gervais

    What he said wasn’t coherent so no not pr at all. For pr they have to stay on massage. To say money don’t matter 3 time then it does matter. Yea he was really thinking about it for the first or second time after the season

  • CJSHYY

    Anyone saw Cliff’s interview? I somehow don’t see Hornets was expect Lin would say he wanted to stay before today’s interview…?

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin is not stupid, he got what he wanted in Charlotte to play cheap to rebuild his image. Now he should be back in business to go where he will get paid and started.

  • very well said 🙂

    I’ve been thoroughly enjoying JLin’s season so far. Some flashes of Linsanity as a teaser for the rest of the NBA to rehabilitate his credibility that was damaged during the Lakers tanking season.

    Let’s hope for the best for JLin

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so… but he’s very emotional person…. ????

  • donsmacau

    Thoughts on JLIN’s exit interview – major takeaways

    1) JLIN still in pain over his lack of usage/misuse in Games 6 & 7 and RESENTFULLNESS shows through his polite veneer “Just gotta be cold blooded … and step on their necks when we get the chance … in this league it’s about going for the kill and we didnt do that..” —- Jeremy Lin Exit Interview 1:45

    2) JLIN has “honestly not thought about free agency” – Points 1) & 2) were spoken from the heart and genuine

    3) Everything else was politically correct fluff meant to not burn bridges, no different than saying “staying with Lakers is a definite probable choice” – all the talk of salary discounts, teammates, Clifford was rote political speak.

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin hardly say any bad thing in public. He even said he would come back to the Lakers.

  • CJSHYY

    Made me feel better. I am really shock & upset bc I don’t like Hornets. So down now.

  • takeme2cruz

    “honestly not thought about free agency” aka DO NOT ask me again. I won’t tell you.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s different this time.

  • JoeTeam

    I think BobbyH has a point because Lin said this: “Yeah, you know, he’s not one to sugarcoat or really lie to you …”

    “really lie” ha ha. So he caught himself and sold the honor to each other thing.

    There has to be fixes for them not to lose again like this, so that’s where there is room to get a deal done, if they agree to improve on how they completely blew 2 changes to win a big series against a team that was indeed on the ropes. You win 3 in a row, take a home game in one of this, … you are in command.

    This fail was totally on Cliff and KW, and the whole team knows it. I am guessing MJ being a champ, he knows it too. The fly in the wall inside CHA would be very busy these weeks ahead.

  • takeme2cruz

    The same situation.

  • donsmacau

    This is not the face of someone happy – this is the face of a person wondering why he (as the best player in the Hornets Playoffs) is watching from the bench while the coach insists on playing Starter scrubs and Bench scrubs in a Game 7 and losing by 30 points.

    http://www.jlinportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-02-at-1.21.42-AM.png

  • CJSHYY

    I know & I can’t believe he said he likes here???

  • donsmacau

    All political speak and everyone but a Hornets fan knows it.

  • sws94

    Yes. They may offer him big money to sign with them if they really want him. There aren’t that many good veteran PGs with FA and Lin is known to be a great teammate and utterly professional.

  • JoeTeam

    KW is fixable, as in the 3 games they won. He started to try to own the ISO in late Game 5, and thank goodness Lin got enough of a lead. If Cliff could coach KW, he can improve and get further.

    It’s funny, how naive the press is with quoting KW’s bad game and 31 pts in Game 6. That was just stupid. Also fans who tweet like that. They don’t understand how bball is won and lost. It’s not in the points, it’s in the team game and doing your job well and inspiring the team game that is seconds ahead of the opponent.

  • Acbc

    Lol, I “stud”..y you my friend!

  • Spot

    Hopefully Sixers

  • sws94

    Very fair and classy comments as always, psalm.

  • takeme2cruz

    It’s called a peaceful divorce.

  • sws94

    lol.

  • David Kim

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets-free-agency-050216

    This is obligatory rhetoric that’s more packed with emotion than common sense. If Lin does in fact take less money to stay with Charlotte, it’d be admirable. But he’s a valuable backup point guard about to enter a seller’s marketplace.

    The salary cap will rise to $92 million (at least), and several teams in need of a speedy ball-handler who can get to the free-throw line and live in the paint will throw serious money in Lin’s direction—including the Hornets.

    Money isn’t everything, but don’t read too much into what he says in an exit interview: No matter what, Lin is getting paid.

  • Spot

    If Jeremy finds a place where he can start and play his basketball will sign elsewhere.

    Otherwise he will stay in Charlotte.

  • Michael

    It’s that “Deep down” that concerns me.

  • alain gervais

    “This is obligatory rhetoric that’s more packed with emotion than common sense” this is very true

  • donsmacau

    Zero chance he stays in Charlotte; be out of the NBA before he ever comes back to CHA as a player – truly believe this.

  • CJSHYY

    I somehow got the feeling that Hornets didn’t expect Lin to say he wants to stay… today Cliff only talked about Batum for FA…..

  • donsmacau

    Because Cho/MJ/Clifford already have been sent signals by JLIN/Agents that he is not staying.

    JLIN is too polite for their jaded dispositions.

  • takeme2cruz

    When he declares opting out, everything he said today about coming back to the Hornets goes to the garbage.

  • heart

    Sorry guys, all I can say is Lin should not have said too much while he’s still in an emotional state. His mind is still on the loss of Game 7. His eyes tell you that he’s emotional when he speaks about teammates and coaches.

    Lin should know that his goal and Hornets’ goal don’t match. Cliff and Hornets don’t care about winning Game 6 & 7. They have different goals. They’re just happy to be in the playoffs. That’s why Lin needs to lead a team to be in the driver seat, to fulfill his own dream and goal. He can’t do that by being KW backup and coached by Cliff who clearly practices favoritism and politics.

    Anyhow, we won’t know until he signs on the dotted line. He needs to take a vacation for now. Let’s just pray for him that God will give him wisdom and guidance to make the right decision.
    @00:51: Reporter: “you want to come back to play with these guys in the future?”

    @00:52, Lin: “I definitely want to play w/ these guys, this coach, I mean you bounce around alot…in terms of my experience, I didn’t have another situation…and the… the loss hurts, man… the loss hurts.”

    @1:23, Lin: “I’ve been thinking about it a lot, but if you’d asked if I’d be interested in coming back. No question in my mind, a resounding yes in my mind. I’d be definitely very interested in coming back.”
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2016/05/02/1462212273508-Exit-Interview—Jeremy-Lin.mp4-491582

  • David Kim

    Hornets trying to pay max to Batum but asking lin to pay cut… It shows how much hornets respect Lin..

  • CJSHYY

    I know they were high on to keep Lin w that CBS interview … but after that Raptors game they took it off then started to promote Batum… so my guess Lin turned them down. But today Lin said he wanted to stay…???

  • Linzen

    Can anyone tell me what Lin means by “fringe guy” at the end of his interview? Was he talking about the past?

    This concerns me a lot… why would he describe himself as a fringe guy? I know he is not “The Guy” right now, but settled to say he is just a fringe guy? Am I reading too much into what he is saying? lol

  • takeme2cruz

    Another good point to cross off Charlotte.

  • donsmacau

    Said same after Lakers

  • heart

    At the bottom of the pole or least priority guy on the roster, like the 15th guy on the roster.

  • John Focker

    Lin’s a winner, and the Hornets weren’t playing to win, plain and simple.

  • Linzen

    But now, he is not the least priority guy on the roster. Why would he say that?

  • donsmacau

    Because he had an objective agreeing to a $2.1million per year contract that many of his fans could not understand;
    JLIN was making the point that though he was making the salary of a “fringe player” that he in fact is NOT a “fringe player” but an excellent player.

  • CJSHYY

    I’ve been thinking about it a lot…. That really not joking at all.

  • True, the whole reason Lin took a short-term deal with the Hornets was because he can opt out to test the Free Agency in the new $92+M salary cap. He declined on Memphis 4-yr backup PG deal so he won’t be trapped in a cheap contract for the next few years.

    He bet on himself and won as he showed flashes of Linsanity with big wins (Spurs/Cavs) plus being the MVP of the playoff series to give Hornets 3 wins averaging 12.4 pts in only 27 mpg. Plus being the FT scoring machine to push the Heat to the brink of elimination.

    He will certainly opt out and see what’s the best on-court situation for his career.
    He had the foresight to choose the Hornets to help his FA values so I will trust him to make another good decision in the upcoming FA, whatever it might be

  • Linzen

    Oh I see… I thought he was thinking he becomes a “fringe player” now…
    Ok, all good. THANKS!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Not going to worry. This is Day 1 into FA after playoff. JLin hasn’t had time to ponder upon FA…… JLin won’t break any bridge with any teams even Lakers last year. So…… Things will become clearer in June.

  • takeme2cruz

    When you go buy a new car, one of the best negotiation is to tell your salesman you still love your old, beat up, broken down car and love to go back to drive it.

  • donsmacau

    Heart you misinterpreted 1:23 .

    When JLIN said “I’ve been thinking about it for while” referred back to the game 6 & 7 losses. NOT about thinking about coming back to Charlotte – this is very clear on the video.

  • BobbyH

    This I agree. I didn’t interprete as Lin accusing Cliff or something. But why Lin used the word “lie”? That is an interesting question.

  • CJSHYY

    Thank you.

  • LOL

  • sws94

    Agree with the first part, totally. Not the second part. Also noticed that Al and Marvin’s interviews sounded a lot like Lin’s.

  • zxcvb

    “very interested”

    He’s gone.

  • donsmacau

    Completely agree.
    Clifford knew the formula for a win and decided to abandon the formula and go with what did NOT win one game in the playoffs in 8 attempts (Kemba & A). (4 attempts for Batum)

  • heart

    But that just to emphasize Lin’s priority is not about $, but about play time and his role on court. However, his talks today has mixed messages. Pray that God will lead him to a better situation than this one to fulfill his goal/dream. We’ll know soon enough.

  • CJSHYY

    Why?

  • zxcvb

    I already knew Lin was leaving, but I just watched the actual video and it’s even more clear now.

    First thing he says is: “I’m gonna remember the friendships, the memories…” And then he catches himself and goes into PR mode. No matter what the reporter asks/tries to spin, Jeremy never once says “yes, I will resign.” He always says: “That would be great” “I’d love that” All non-committal PR responses…YAWN.

    But I get why people are overanalyzing. After that godawful Game 7, we all want to turn the page and talk FREE AGENCY.

  • donsmacau

    The question WHY?

    … Why could have been asked after the Knicks season and after the Lakers season but also after the last 5 JLIN exit interviews – I guarantee you would have heard the same gracious words of praise each and every time.

  • Infini

    A question to those that are saying Jeremy was “emotional,” do you people actually know him personally or have some inside knowledge?

    Or are you maybe projecting your own insecurities onto his actions?

    In psychology, this is commonly know as the Fundamental Attribution Error:

    In social psychology, the fundamental attribution error, also known as the correspondence bias or attribution effect, is the tendency for people to place an undue emphasis on internal characteristics (personality) to explain someone else’s behavior in a given situation rather than considering the situation’s external factors.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

  • To be fair, Lin does love his buddies riding in the car.

    Maybe not so much about being squeezed in the backseat
    Or the car mechanic who doesn’t trust him enough to start the engine 🙂

    Hopefully he gets to be happy getting ample time behind the driver’s seat soon

    https://49.media.tumblr.com/5debbede1fa05013b5b614f3e0ccd535/tumblr_n29s4mLnec1qcga5ro1_500.gif

  • zxcvb

    Right now, Brooklyn/Philly has the power. They can lowball Lin because they KNOW he’s desperate to start and prove himself. Heck, I’d lowball Lin if I were as GM. That’s my job.

    Lin has to make it look like he’s torn between all options. It’s Negotiation 101.

  • donsmacau

    Absolutely, JLIN has been through 5 other exit interviews in his career and you will NEVER see him save anything but the best about his teammates, the coach, the front office and staff.

    Hornets exit interview is just part of the business and JLIN treated it as such for the 6th time.

  • zxcvb

    That’s what makes him a great team player. To his credit, Clifford scratched his back in return, praising Lin’s defense. Clifford is possibly the most respected defensive coach in the league, so that’s legit praise.

  • takeme2cruz

    They’re crazy if they low ball him. Both teams are in desperate to make noise in playoff. They both will make most of their money back with Lin ads in big market.

  • donsmacau

    Desperation is not good for the psyche. Wishing against the inevitable just puts you in an even worse position when it doesn’t come to pass – focus your energy on getting Brian Roberts back (or whatever other backup you want) so that when the shock happens you’re not left holding the bag.

    Hornets back to 33-49 and missing the playoffs under Cliff/Kemba for next 5 yrears.

  • Acbc

    What does popularity have to do with facts? Are you such a self hater that you’d yourself would choose to sit on the bench while you watch other’s play like crap in the most important game of your life? Do you disrespect Lin so much even think for a second that he enjoyed being kicked in the gut? Shouldn’t you be at least a little pissed at the treatment Lin received at the hands of an organization that makes his contributions meaningless?
    Obviously our popular opinion is so beneath you’re self esteem that you think you know Lin better than any of us. You’re guess is just a guess like the rest of us. But you’re insinuation is that our popular feelings makes it a something sinister. Smh

  • takeme2cruz

    Indeed, if Lin does not pursue for staring role now he never will. His prime does not last forever.

  • alain gervais

    Saying he was emotional is a stretch. Maybe unprepared to his own words. HE hasn’t really though about it. So what he said was mostly emotions but agains saying he was emotional is a stretch

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so. When I read the tweets on what he said I was so sure it’s PR talk… but w this video so shock to me. He sounded so serious about it…

  • Linzen

    Our prayer indeed.
    Actually, I even hope that he will re-unite with some good friends in another team. You know, the like of MW, DMo, Tyson Chandler,… actually I don’t even mind Batum. I think he is a good teammate.

  • make sure you refresh to see Kermit & Foggy having a good time driving 🙂

  • donsmacau

    Perhaps if JLIN has a 15 year NBA career, that after hearing the same speech end 15 times that you might get used to the words and not so shock you.

  • takeme2cruz

    Thanks, I did.

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe I am too upset by the news…. wish it’s July now.

  • heart

    That’s what I said. He’s been thinking about the loss of game 6 & &. So his mind and answers are based in that frame of mind.

  • takeme2cruz

    By the way, that should be game 7. Lin on the driver side and midget flog is his passenger.

  • Ido can be too blunt at times but he has ways with words 🙂
    https://twitter.com/IdoAmir/status/727270008842256384

  • heart

    “Or are you maybe projecting your own insecurities onto his actions?” No MAS there! Not projecting anything. Say it the way I see or sense it!

  • takeme2cruz

    I kind of love his too blunt now.

  • Linzen

    So Lin should say, “I love Hornets, I really do…”

  • donsmacau

    Ok – thank you.

    I just wanted to make clear to people who did not listen to interview that JLIN was NOT saying he was “thinking for a long time about coming back to Charlotte.”

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Starting lineup? LOL!

  • Win

    Hi Sws,

    Just wanna see if you still disagreed with me about how Clifford has disrespected Lin on the last 2 minutes of game 6 and game 7. Not debating, just wanna hear your thought.

  • sws94

    I’ve not commented on game 7. Overall, if Lin feels he’s had the best time of his career with the Hornets, then that’s something I’m listening to and think he’s sincere about.

  • donsmacau

    For sure this announcement will happen all next season.

  • David Kim

    whenever i go to watch lin’s game, i always missed the starting line up announcement.
    when he was in knicks, it was really cool…

  • let’s be nice now 🙂 no name-calling
    It’s the car mechanic’s fault for Game 7 blunder

  • sws94

    I wouldn’t use that word, but I wasn’t happy with Lin’s usage in Game 7.

  • Win

    Fair enough. Good to see you are back .

    🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That’s my take when I heard it as well. He talked about in the past. Of course this season/team was the best in his career…. I didn’t hear that he has committed himself for Hornets. He hasn’t thought about next season…. He would need to talk to his agent…..

    My take is I just wait until his Asia trip (June), we will know more then.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN’s Asia trip is the earliest he’s every set – this is due to preparation for the shortened window in early JULY for Free Agency from the DeAndre Jordan fiasco last season.

    … early July we sign new contract as starting point guard for his new team (some CHA fans think he signs again lol)

  • takeme2cruz

    I just thought that’s the word Lin used too. But corrected anyway.

  • Linzen

    Good about the Lin part…
    But Robin is not even playing for Brooklyn…
    https://twitter.com/PeteStopTire/status/727203749073031168

  • Steppen03

    Welcome to the offseason, fellas =). Tho I’m still rooting for: GS > Spurs > OKC; Cavs > Hawks. Repeat: GS Warriors in Six.
    NO… This time around I don’t think org will try to lowball JL7 for a cheap contract. This time JL7’s agent have some serious ammo for chick-chat.
    There ARE teams out there willing to take a risk with Lin. Believe me, the team that Lin chose will have a Linsanity-type season coming their way. JL7 is a superstar (to me…) and he will play like one – 25pt & 8ast. I know he will continue to work hard this offseason and refine his shooting stroke.
    Am I excited ?? H*** YA!!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    According to Pincus, some can opt out now and some can opt out by 22 June 2016. Still have no idea about JLin’s case. Anyone knows???
    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/727235557974151168

  • vincent

    Lin must be a starting PG next season. Im hoping for 76ers or Nets, but also have heard rumors about Bulls and Memphis. All those options are better than Charlotte.

  • CJSHYY

    I am more clam down now. I was so upset about the news. But after talked to my friend, I feel much better now. He said Lin sounded so eager to tell everyone how much he likes this team bc of players & coaches. Sounds like PR for the team to get players from FA…. Just like his interview w CBS last year. Also helped to clear the name for the Cliff. Lin specially said what coach promised him it’s true…. you know lots of fans are mad at Cliff….He thinks it’s PR.

  • Eric Pincus provided the Team salary summary.
    And @linspired asked him when JLin can opt out.
    Answer: June 22, 2016

    I will add it to the JLinPortal timer countdown

    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/727235557974151168

    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/724856819869474816

  • CJSHYY

    CP already option out.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    My desire/prayer for JLin is there are teams with HC who really really trusts him to be THE PG for the organization and let him play his games + at least 12+ millions contract that he can choose from in FA. If Hornets offer that to him, then so be it. No way I would want him to be a backup player with min pay again.

  • vincent

    Obviously pay has a lot to do with how well respected a player is. However, Lin was given a very nice contract in Houston and was NOT the main option. So my hopes are Lin finds a good team like 76ers or Nets that will not screw him over

  • Lolikoi

    He might go to a team we never thought of like last time

  • vincent

    if he does he better go to a team that makes him a starting point guard. He should NOT settle for a sixth man spot no matter what he is promised.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Honestly I hear between the lines of what’s not being said…. My impression of the exit interview is his mind is still on the losses and not on FA at all.

    As I followed JLin closely for almost 4 years, we know JLin will never ever speak badly about anyone even those I dislike immensely — KB, BS, KM, JH, Melo ……. For this Hornets, obviously it’s day and night as compared to teams/orgs that he was with. Of course, this was what he felt. He is the one with those characters for 6 seasons.

    Another take is JLin will never ever break the bridge between any possibilities. So, it’s just JLin we know. We sure will hear more in his Asia trip if not prior to that.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Anyone here knows whether agents get a cut (or commission) from the negotiated salary of a player? Let’s say JLin’s agent is better off if he can negotiate for a more lucrative wage instead of a mere $2m.

  • vincent

    Lin is very humble and never trashes his coaches despite being thrown under the bus by his former coaches I.E Byron Scott and Kevin Mchale. Cliff has definitely helped Lin in terms of Praising him towards Media, but still has yelled at Lin, which was uncalled for cuz he would NEVER dare yell at Kemba

  • Steppen03

    Already said before… If Hornets don’t sign Batum and make Kemba/Lin duo legit then I will say yes (only if there’s No starting role but I highly doubt it.) If solely for backup PG – JL7 should not go back to Hornets – not as the 3rd-4th option. Find a place where he’s the 1st or 2nd option – that’s it.

  • takeme2cruz

    They earn by commission.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes I know. Few has already opted out. We will hear more about JLin when he has time to relax (however long he needs it) and then he is ready to think about next step. My guess is the earliest we will know about his decision will be end of May/early June.

    One thing I’m so sure he will opt out is he plans his Asia trip in June so that he is more ready for FA this time. He has already anticipated of his FA a while ago. Hornets is just one of the teams he and his team will consider in the next 58 days.

    In the mean time, teams can talk to his teams about their offer while JLin is taking time off.

  • Linzen

    What if it is GSW or SAS? Just wondering.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Doubt this will happen.

  • vincent

    I mean thats better than Hornets, but if he doesn’t take a starting spot now his image in the NBA will always be that of a backup PG

  • sws94

    He said I don’t like moving. Doesn’t like boxes. And why does Marvin and Lin’s interview sound so much alike? I hear a theme in a lot of players on that team that said, we have unfinished business together and although FA is what it is, we’d like to do it all together next season. I hear a collective idea from many Hornets players, not just from Lin.

  • Linzen

    I agree… just day dreaming… 🙂
    TBH, I don’t even know if it is better for JLin to go to GSW or SAS. Part of me REALLY want him to start.

  • Cycloben

    Jeremy needs to take the max money, period, because hornets is the 4th team that we had predicted that might treat him fairly, and the disrespect happened again, so let’s just say this is not our first rodeo.

    I don’t think Jeremy will ever get the respect, so he’d best take the max money because none of these serpents can be trusted.

  • Linzen

    Actually, those teams are great and they are the best chances for Lin to win a chip. However, I am with you on him being a starter.
    Year, REALLY want him to start and be THE MAN.

  • zxcvb

    Not that it wasn’t guaranteed to happen, but Lin already said he’s opting out during the interview.

  • Cycloben

    He needs to take max money, period. No matter what he is promised, because he has no control over these serpent coaches and gms.

  • vincent

    Yes, if Lin proves he can be a capable starter for at least 2 years I have no problem with him joining the Spurs. I just want him to show the world what he is capable of and remind them of what Linsanity is

  • zxcvb

    Memphis is the wild card to me. Conley may indeed leave and Memphis offered Lin last year, so there’s definitely interest. Gotta be even more this year after his “rehab” season in Charlotte.

    Also, Dave Joerger seems like a great coach, making the playoffs despite injuries to his top 2 players. He also seems like a really nice, caring, emotional dude. Not a guaranteed match like Lin and MDA/Atkinson, but I think they’re similar minds. He’s not an “old school” guy like Clifford, very much a younger, new generation coach.

  • Cycloben

    exactly, no more friggin’ asian discounts!!! If he’s gonna ride the pine, he’s gonna ride it with a giant wallet in his back pocket!!!

  • vincent

    thats why Lin going to the nets or 76ers is his best bet. MDA will absolutely not disrespect Lin as he has constantly praised him. Kenny atkinson has a strong connection with Lin as well. Also Lin going back to New York will be good for his image. New York Loves Lin and I doubt they would disrespect lin like he was disrespected in LA and HOU

  • zxcvb

    Best Destinations for Lin:

    1) Brooklyn. Self-explanatory.
    2) Philly. Maybe #1 if MDA replaces Brown.
    3) Memphis. If Conley leaves.
    4) Spurs. Replacing Manu or even Parker in ’17-’18.

    Until we hear other rumors, those are the only “acceptable” options in my mind. All are fine with me, though starting for Atkinson or MDA is obviously the dream scenario (and very possible ones).

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Thanks. So it makes more sense for his agent to negotiate a better deal.

  • vincent

    Im with you 100%. I think MDA would be much more stable. We all know what MDA is capable of. However, we have no idea what type of offense Atkninson likes to play regardless of how good his connection is with Lin. However, it seems unlikely that he would misuse Lin, but just for stability sake I want MDA and Lin reunion.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah, MDA is definitely a more known quantity. Automatic fit. But unless he’s actually the head coach — and no announcement has been made or even rumored imminent — I’m sticking with Brooklyn. Philly has great picks and trade assets, so they could also pull a fast one on Lin. Nets don’t have other options, so if they sign him, they’ll use him.

  • vincent

    this is true. However, if MDA does become head coach I don’t see any way that Philly pulls a fast one on Lin. MDA knows how valuable Lin is and has a great relationship with COleangelo so he has a lot of pull with the sixers

  • zxcvb

    Good point. I’ll be waiting on that announcement. Very possible that Bryan is just waiting for the right moment (he took a LOT of heat for usurping Hinkie and getting a job from his dad).

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, I hate watching the anointed ones play like crap while I sit the bench. That I have experienced in life, being Chinese or being uninformed on the adze-kissing thing. On the other hand, I find it really interesting to get a sense that KW and Cliff don’t have the brass to know when they have the brass ring in their reach, and they are afraid to take it. JLin said it all – it only comes around once in awhile, and you have to put your foot on the neck. What a choice of words for a guy like him – he knows when it’s time to dunk or spike or strike. I am counting on him to have the killer instinct on some team as a starter to try to take down GSW. I love GSW and Steph, but the league needs competition, and Steph needs a guard to challenge him for his career span.

  • vincent

    lol Im so tired of speculating I want to fastforward to next season already lol

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    add GSW into the mix. they went after him last off season so there’s no doubt they will try again this off season
    also, Chicago

  • @BSimmons25
    J Lin will be foolish to not opt out for more money.
    Hawes/Lee/lamb/Zeller makes more than him….#BigNo
    https://twitter.com/BSimmons25/status/727281240370348032

  • takeme2cruz

    Love 1, 2 and 3. Hate 4th.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Not sure how true this rumor is. Fun for speculation:-)
    https://twitter.com/hoopscritic/status/727274001651916804

  • CJSHYY

    Pacers?

  • Linzen

    hmmmm interesting. Doesn’t sound bad with Walton as HC.
    But, who is Kellerman? Legit?

  • zxcvb

    Don’t love it either, but as a “worst case scenario” I can live with it. Guaranteed rings and very possible starting job within a year or two.

  • rookie75094

    No…don’t want Jlin backing up that punk russell.

  • Rick Johnson

    Sixer’s better lock down MDA before he walks.

  • JoeTeam

    Luke will need a PG like Lin, because he knows what Steph gives to GSW. I’m not saying Lin is as good a shooter as Steph – just saying you need a guard that changes the game when he’s in, and not in an solo way.

  • Linzen

    He will be gone by draft night.

  • zxcvb

    I don’t think Lin would consider it (beyond using it as leverage). He has no chance at starting in GSW ever. SAS and CHI at least have a possibility.

  • Rick Johnson

    Max Kellerman just opining or actually some inside rumor?

  • rookie75094

    If that’s the case then maybe…Lakers must guarantee starting point for Jlin….but I still want MDA first and Atkinson second.

  • zxcvb

    MDA’s reps are going to put pressure on Philly to promote him or else. It’s clear that Jerry Colangelo wanted MDA to take over but Bryan is dragging his feet.

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    unfortunately, I agree with you and judging by how amazingly well JLin play against a tough Heat D, I really want to see him start and put 35-40 mins on the floor next season. This is it … before he’s 30, I’d love to see him get to a place where he can own his own destiny in the NBA.

  • CJSHYY

    I always thought Lin will back to Lakers this summer. W this new coach it’s really good for him.

  • Rick Johnson

    Add Bulls to the mix. Rumors of trading Rose’s expiring contract. Someone who could play better alongside Butler

    http://www.sportsrageous.com/rumors/nba-rumors-jeremy-lin-will-join-the-chicago-bulls-next-season/19872/

    However, there will surely be lots of team looking for a veteran point guard in the upcoming off-season, including the Chicago Bulls. Despite having Derrick Rose in their team, the Bulls were having a hard time getting the full potential of Rose for having multiple injuries so they might consider trading him to give the team a chance to sign another franchise player.

    Jeremy Lin can be a good fit with the Chicago Bulls especially with the fast paced offense by the Bulls coach Fred Hoiberg. Also, Lin can be a good combination with Jimmy Butler to lead the team’s offense.

    If the Bulls choose to free Rose, signing Lin together with another superstar free agent will not be a problem since they will be having a huge salary cap.

  • spiderman

    Enjoy the present lol
    Haven’t you seen Click (the movie)?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    The more offers JLin receives, the better he can make the right decision. Maybe there are some more offers that we won’t hear about until he chooses it like Hornets.

  • Linzen

    That would be my preference too.
    Too bad there is no news from Philly. The suspense is killing me, and today is just the first day… How many days to FA again? 🙁

  • Linzen

    Add Chicago Bulls to the mix. Like some “experts” are saying, all NBA teams would love to have JLin on the roster now.

  • spiderman

    I wonder if they could write that into a contract — like “player must start every game and play at least 30 minutes, unless player cannot due to injury, illness, or suspension”

  • wandertheglobe

    Kemba knows Lin is not coming back from his blog post today.

    “I’m hoping we’re able to bring our whole team back – that would be lovely, but that might only be in a perfect world. Thanks to the business side of this league, sometimes that doesn’t happen. It might be hard to bring some guys back because we had guys that played well and other teams might want them. Hopefully we can get the majority of this team back because it was a pleasure playing with these guys.”

    http://www.nba.com/hornets/kemba-walker-2015-16-blog

  • wandertheglobe

    That means they will trade away either Clarkson or Russell, then make either one a SG and have Lin running the Point. I’m sure Lin would love to go back to LA minus Kobe and BS.

  • wandertheglobe

    LakersNation says one of them will be traded. Makes sense…

    http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-may-need-to-trade-young-talent-to-fill-holes/2016/05/01/

  • Briiick

    KW is a cool guy, though I don’t think he can help his team win games in today’s NBA.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    da Bulls are an interesting prospect. i like Butler. he’s a true 2-way player just like Lin. if Lin joins him in the backcourt and is allowed to play as a true point guard, they’d be unstoppable. i’m gonna have to rewatch a few Bulls games to confirm my own thoughts about Butler before i wish Lin to join him

  • kauaiblue

    easy for the annointed one to say these niceties…

  • JoeTeam

    To me his best skill is his layups in traffic. This shot isn’t that great now that I’ve been spoiled by Steph and KT. His midrange is not as reliable under pressure as Shaun Livingston. LOL, I think his set shots are not even as good as Mo Buckets. So ya, unless a team will give him 30 shots AND play perfect D, good transition, etc making the rest of a team’s game perfect (JLin style), he’s not going to produce wins.

    So then, what’s an owner to do? MJ could have a good team if he keeps everyone except KW, and Cliff maybe.

  • wandertheglobe

    Dennis Schroder reminds me of JLin. He drives to the basket fearlessly. Atlanta matches up well with the Cavs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they upset the Cavs.

  • alain gervais

    A young version. Very little defense. But in 4 year he could be deadly

  • Steppen03

    The Coach AND BIG Contract are the determining factors.

  • Mr Chuckles

    It is amazing how the Hornets can’t see how building a team around KW just doesn’t work.

  • Mr Chuckles

    No way. They will make Lin the backup to Russell. So not gonna happen.

  • JoeTeam

    USA Today ranks CHA Game 5 best. I would have said games 3 and 4, because 5 featured a fading KW ISO game that was really frustrating to watch.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/playoffs/2016/05/02/nba-playoffs-first-round-hornets-heat-pacers-raptors/83817852/

  • alain gervais

    Charlotte HornetsCharlotte Hornets

    Current: Over the cap and hard capped

    Projected 2016-17 Cap Space: $0-$42.2 million

    Exceptions: TBD, $646,260 Trade (expiring 6/25/16), $548,000 Trade (expiring 6/26/16)

    Draft Picks: 22nd

    Acquisitions: None

    Roster count: Six guaranteed, one non-guaranteed; one player option

    Non-Guaranteed Salaries: Aaron Harrison ($874,636)

    Options: Jeremy Lin ($2,235,255 — player)

    Cap Holds: Al Jefferson ($20,250,000 — Bird), Nicolas Batum ($19,687,959 — Bird), Marvin Williams ($9,100,000 — Early Bird), Courtney Lee ($10,782,500 — Bird), Troy Daniels ($1,215,696, Restricted — Bird), Jorge Gutierrez ($1,215,696, Restricted — Non-Bird), Tyler Hansbrough ($980,431 — Non-Bird), Jeffrey Taylor ($980,431 — Bird), Jason Maxiell ($980,431 — Non-Bird)

    Datum at 19 million and Lee at 10 million. Lin has to get more then lee. 10 million is too low

  • JoeTeam

    he he, let’s go Lin, most important part of the season is starting (pun):

    http://2paragraphs.com/2016/05/jeremy-lin-defense-may-mean-he-played-his-last-game-as-a-hornet/

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Great!! The more the merrier:-)

  • Mr Chuckles

    Also, getting max or high money puts more pressure on the team to start him.

  • Mr Chuckles

    It sounds like he has to opt out by June 22nd. Is that how you read it?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Teams that JLin might be landed in coming seasons from rumors are:
    1. Sixers
    2. Nets
    3. Bulls
    4. Lakers
    5. Grizzlies
    6. Hornets
    7.

  • alain gervais

    Where would he fit on the bulls?

  • Briiick

    MJ is a poor talent picker and worse, he refuses to change his mind once he has made a poor bet.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m liking the Bulls more and more each day. Jimmy Butler is everything a point guard like Lin can ever ask for as a backcourt partner. he’s a true 2-way player, doesn’t hog the ball, smart, helps out on defense, and is a great off the ball player

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Rose was the clear weak link on the Bulls last year. i’m certain they will trade him if he doesn’t have a no-trade clause in his contract.. hoping

  • alain gervais

    The Bulls were fully prepared to draft a point guard last June before Bobby Portis unexpectedly slipped to them at No. 22. Those plans likely will be put back in motion this summer, either to safeguard against Rose’s departure in 2017 free agency or perhaps to move Rose to off guard and Butler back to small forward.

    Though this option has yet to be set in stone, the legitimacy of this plan makes little sense if adopted as a full time strategy.

    Suppose the Bulls were to move Jimmy Butler to small forward to accommodate Rose’s presence at shooting guard, in order to facilitate this transformation, several assets would need to be used to acquire both a starting point guard who fits next to Chicago’s current backcourt, but also several backup guards to support the Bulls’ bench unit.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-bulls-confidential/2016/04/derrick-rose-the-shooting-guard/

    Rajon Rondo will be available, as will Deron Williams. Once great, perennial All-Stars, like Rose, both have succumb to injuries that have claimed their best days. Combo guards such as Jordan Clarkson, Jeremy Lin and Brandon Jennings are also set to test the market, though none represent a starting fit next to Butler and Rose.

  • LW

    Just remember, all the talk of where Lin is going to go remain meaningless without an actual offer.

  • alain gervais

    Bulls is interesting. we will see

  • zxcvb

    – Magic Johnson

  • BobbyH

    LOL, still obsessed with big names that are fading.

  • zxcvb

    As long as Rose is still there, I don’t like Chicago. Injuries might allow Lin to start, but that’s it. He may get a phone call and his agent can use that as leverage, but Bulls seem like a long shot. They’d just want Lin to play the same role he did for Charlotte.

  • alain gervais

    Yea i notice that This was before Lin in the playoffs. Also a fan site so don’t take it seriously. Lin, Rose, butler is interesting

  • kauaiblue

    He’s not coming back… no way… he is pizzed… i like what he said about being paid relatively low… watch out next year… i like this jlin… come out guns blazing…

  • alain gervais

    suppose the Bulls were to move Jimmy Butler to small forward to accommodate Rose’s presence at shooting guard, in order to facilitate this transformation, several assets would need to be used to acquire both a starting point guard who fits next to Chicago’s current backcourt, but also several backup guards to support the Bulls’ bench unit.

  • james brown

    then, what are they? SG? JC is the better sg than russel, though both like to be a pg and hog the ball including randle!

  • zxcvb

    He’d make a good 6th man. Instant offense and tough shot making. Other than that, he’s not a winning player and certainly not a PG who makes others better.

  • Lately, Butler surprisingly had a bad rep of becoming a diva that his teammates don’t like

    https://hoopshabit.com/2016/04/26/chicago-bulls-strange-case-jimmy-butler/

    Recently, Sam Smith revealed that the 26-year-old has a “colossal ego.”

    “He’s really kind of full of himself. He hangs around with Mark Wahlberg, the actor, and lets us know about that a lot. He goes around to premieres or whatever. He announced before the season that he’s the leader of the team and guys are looking around going, ‘What are you talking about?’ It’s a really weird dynamic. He doesn’t like to socialize with the other players. Back in November they had a team bonding thing. They all chartered a bus and went up to wine country for the day. The only one who didn’t go was Jimmy.”

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    can’t believe the Bulls didn’t make the playoffs with their roster. they have Bulter / Gasol / Mirotic / Gibson / McDermoot – all of them are unselfish team players. i really think Rose have been their weak link because he doesn’t get the team involved and his defense is bad

  • alain gervais

    They had major injury issues

  • zxcvb

    Rose can’t play SG. Terrible jumper (29-30% every year from 3) and certainly not catch and shoot.

    There’s no way in heck two established “stars” like Butler and Rose would let Lin lead. And they’re both ball-handlers.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yeah. oh and off injuries making it difficult to build chemistry

  • sport

    Doesn’t mean they’ll let Lin play his game and lead the team as PG. Bulls FO doesn’t know what they’re doing and so long as Rose is there forget it. They will marginalize him just like the Hornets to prevent him from outshining the stars.

  • alain gervais

    These are the options. Let all the teams negotiate Lin will choose his favorite. He may still go back to the hornets anyways. He will do what he wants

  • wandertheglobe

    BS and Kobe created a ball hog culture. Luke will install team basketball.

  • alain gervais

    Id say it would be a good bet Rose miss at least 30 plus games

  • takeme2cruz

    Off season: free agencies, picks and trades are all hot topic for fans to do all the talks.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m not too concern about what he does off the court because his work ethics and competitiveness is off the charts. nothing like Harden type off the court issues

  • sport

    Not so sure about this new coach they hired. Knowing Lakers they’d probably be chasing the big FAs.

  • kauaiblue

    I would love to see JLin be more Machiavellian, without being a jerk…

  • alain gervais

    Lin may run away from stuff like this. He wants a good locker room. Bulls had locker room issues

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    even without Lin talks, the Bulls must resolve their issue with Rose’s chemistry with Butler and the whole team. they have a bunch of team players that are being underutilized due to Rose’s shortcomings

  • Briiick

    How interested Bulls are depends on the offer.

  • alain gervais

    If i was Lin i would be where of another Rox or LAL situations. Too many young player means they are selfish and won’t to get theres. Too many stars mean they have weak egos. Sixers, bulls, brooklyn all fit these issues . brooklyn the least. If Lin leaves brooklyn is by far my favorite

  • alain gervais

    I just read they had locker room issue. I would tell Lin to beware of this situation

  • zxcvb

    The coaches and teammates that like Lin are the ones who like that he ISN’T two-faced and scheming. MDA wants to reunite with Lin because he’s a great player who won’t stab him in the back like Melo.

  • kauaiblue

    A good coach and owner is what I would love to see for once…

  • sport

    For now Nets seems like the best options unless 76ers hire MDA. Once that is official then next step would be MDA recruiting Lin.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    just as we’re discussing it, there are already rumors of Lin joining the Chicago Bulls next season..

    http://www.sportsrageous.com/rumors/nba-rumors-jeremy-lin-will-join-the-chicago-bulls-next-season/19872/

  • alain gervais

    Lin may be looking for a hornets type of locker room. Its very rare. as all the hornets players said.

  • kauaiblue

    That’s why we all love him… there is a difference here… don’t need to be overly nice… can look out for your own interests… without being a jerk…

  • kauaiblue

    please no hornets next year… lol

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. After I talked to my friend. I think Lin talk more like PR bc if he really wants to come back then why Cliff didn’t say anything about his FA only talked about Batum.

  • alain gervais

    HE will do what he wants

  • zxcvb

    I’m sure he does. He got paid 25M off of 20 games in NY and rehabbed his image in CHA with a 1yr deal just as the free agent market is ripe — not many PGs and the cap is rising big time. Even better, Atkinson and MDA are both on the table. Not bad for the undrafted Asian guy from Harvard.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    that’s old news. i’ve just rewatched a recent Bulls vs Hawks game and don’t notice any chemistry issues on the court with Bulter. he’s so unselfish. and i hardly see him handling the ball do any dumb plays

  • sport

    Nope he’s leaving his options open. Better to not burn bridges.

  • Bearness

    Lin needs a good coach that believes in him as a starter, and an athletic big man to run pick and rolls with. Then, Lin will be an all-star. Such easy formula, yet so hard for Lin to find it in NBA.

  • alain gervais

    ok ill take your word but We not want another Rox situation

  • kauaiblue

    ok, ok … geesh

  • alain gervais

    2 months is too long.

  • zxcvb

    Beware content farm articles. Neither rumors nor informed speculation.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    watching some more Bulls games to confirm but i like what i see already. Butler is the direct opposite of Harden

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    some good info we can get out of it though. like perhaps the Hornets want to keep Marv instead of Lin. and Fred Hoiberg wants to implement a fast-pace offense which he can’t really do with Rose there

  • Rick Johnson

    https://twitter.com/MavericksViews/status/727313245367848960

    Is this what happened to Dallas?:

    [–]J9XXX 0 points 3 days ago

    I’ve read that Cuban said “no DeAndre, no Lin”. I’m guessing Cuban said don’t bother getting Lin if they can’t get DeAndre. I also recall Cuban wanting to tank but Carlisle not accepting it.

  • JoeTeam

    that’s a team cancer.

  • alain gervais

    More bidder more better lmao

  • CJSHYY

    I read somewhere said they are going to resign w DW.

  • alain gervais

    He is way too old.

  • sws94

    Doesn’t sound like what Lin wants in a teammate, especially a star player. I’ve heard this too. Shame, good player. Maybe when he matures he’ll grow out of it. Hopefully.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    gotta love the retweets from fans on clifford’s quote

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/727165928488628228

  • John Focker

    Batum at 19M is hilarious. Guy always disappears, literally, when the going gets tough. Yeah, those toe and ankle injuries are incredibly good on timing.

  • freemind

    They sure want him back alright but at the old price. pffffft!

  • alain gervais

    19 million is the lowest he can make btw.

  • CJSHYY

    Cuban likes him.

  • John Focker

    The more bidders the better, of course. But Lakers’ situation still muddy pending resolution of the Jeanie/Jimmy power struggle.

  • Rick Johnson

    https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/726120017218121728

    Williams will be among the top point guards available in free agency this summer. Mike Conley is clearly the premier free agent at the position, with Williams in a group that includes Rajon Rondo, Jeremy Lin and restricted free agent Jordan Clarkson.

  • Bulldog

    I have to give Steve Clifford compliments. He was apparently forced to play Kemba and Kamin by MJ and P Ewing. Even Nic had 29 minutes even with such a bad performance. I think he wanted to demonstrate MJ and FO Kemba is Not the one around whom they should build a team. He put Kemba on the court 2 whole games. They lost, no matter how hard Kemba had tried. He just doesn’t have it in him.

    FO push him to send Kemba to All-Star, most improved player of the year, play-off hero. None of them came down to the reality. Dragic outplayed Kemba easily. Kemba’s iso so predictable, not got anyone involved. Clifford did this to show MJ that he is wrong about Kemba and Batum. Everyone has recognized that Lin gave the Hornets three wins.

    I respect Steve Clifford not playing Lin in this doomed Kemba game 7. He didn’t want Lin to get hurt. Make him immune to the blowout loss and heading FA healthy. He might fail to deliver what he promised to Lin. But I genuinely think it not 100% up to him. He was also to prepare MJ to foresee the next season’s fall in the Hornest with this game. You want me to play Kemba and Kaminsky duo, well, this is what you will get.

    Lin is a big FA this summer. This was a great season for him. The Knicks, the Rockets, the Lakers and the next season Hornets won’t have a spot in the playoffs. People is starting to realize how unique Lin as a player.

  • CJSHYY
  • John Focker

    For the old price under the NEW salary cap, they can get good ol’ Ronnie Price…or an even older Mark Price.

  • John Focker

    As hilarious as Dragic’s max. Neither ever accomplished anything significant in the league.

  • Rick Johnson

    That ran through my mind also as I watched game 7, Kemba getting torched over and over again by Dragic. But anything but speculation that this is what Cliff was doing?

  • John Focker

    31 and injury prone, not the same player anymore.

  • freemind

    They gonna sign Jorge and Troy so they alright have a backup backup plan

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin wasting no time to get out of Charlotte.

  • CJSHYY

    I know I don’t know why he’s #2? smh!

  • freemind

    Where is CLee interview? did he just bolt off from the locker ??

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Ya! Can’t wait to get out of NC.

  • Rick Johnson

    Said grouped. Not in a particular order. I’d say Lin should be #2 but actually I really don’t know much about Conley. Everyone says he’s #1 FA PG but is he really that good?

  • sws94

    He has the second longest interview. He said similar to other players, wants most of the team back next year.

  • freemind

    any link? hornet did not tweet or quoted him.

  • Joe what do you know

    Everybody has their own speculations to what’s behind closed doors. But what’s important is that Lin is indeed entering the FA healthy, and his year in Charlotte proves to be beneficial for his market value. I think as Lin supporters, we should celebrate the good situation ahead for Lin. Whatever the reasons a certain person has to make certain decision and do certain thing, is all part of God’s grand scheme for Lin. I’m grateful for what lies ahead for Jeremy.

  • HVJoy

    or, good ol’ Brian Roberts.

  • sws94

    It’s with the other exit videos on the charlotte hornets video page. It’s right after Lin’s.

    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2016/05/02/1462212273508-Exit-Interview—Jeremy-Lin.mp4-491582

  • Briiick

    Agreed. Cliff is also a Yes-man but he is better than Lin’s previous two coaches in LAL and Rox.

  • Briiick

    Conley had been good but his team was 0:4 in the playoffs, so not any more.

  • John Focker

    Troy’s a backcourt version of Novak, Jorge’s 3rd string like Ronnie, Kemba’s 2nd string PG starting. So the predicament is to find starting-level PG who’ll play 2nd string for peanut shells under new cap. Good luck.

  • 22cents

    It is like a movie production. We all know that 2nd movie usually is worse than the 3rd one. The 3rd one is worse then the 2nd one….and etc. But the Hollywood is still doing that. Why? They believed that it is a safe bet than pour in money for no name movies.

  • HVJoy

    I don’t know if Coach Clifford “protected” Lin from injury by playing him only 19 minutes in the G7 loss. But, I am really thankful that Lin is entering Free Agency relatively healthy.

    Whatever team Lin chooses eventually to “take his talent to”, I will be supportive of his decision and him as always. In the meantime, I will enjoy reading all the rumors, speculations and news reports about his new NBA home.

  • HVJoy

    the Sandal Brothers 🙂

  • takeme2cruz

    Home sweet home.

  • John Focker

    Eagle eyes! LOL

  • HVJoy

    I wish. Actually 4-eyed. 🙁

    Thank God for contact lenses. 🙂

  • CJSHYY
  • heart

    Yes, I remember reading this.

  • Rick Johnson

    Did he even play in the playoffs? I though he was injured?

  • TTNN

    He is good, he is not a scoring PG, but he started to score more.

  • DX

    Nets has 67% votes.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    why is Lakers even a choice?

  • MomentousPetey

    sws94 has always been suspect

  • A fan got stranded at Charlotte and saw Lin at the airport.
    Going back home to CA? Red-eye flight?
    https://twitter.com/theajanga/status/727324079322202112

  • Steppen03

    Good read! It could be…
    For what’s worth, CCliff do not hold all the cards and JL7 enjoyed a very good, positive season. We may be too harsh on CCliff. I will take all my hate back – #1) It’s already over. #2) Hornets media & CCliff have been very positive.

  • John Focker

    @CJSHYY beat you by an hour… 🙂

  • haha.. I’ll delete it then

  • Red-eye flight?
    Maybe Lin got huge discount flying out of Charlotte with night flight 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Jeremy Lin: 2015-2016 season with the Charlotte Hornets was ‘the most fun I have had’ in the NBA
    http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/20160502/st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/gG1drciePV

    CHARLOTTE — Four years ago, Jeremy Lin was at the center
    of the NBA universe. During “Linsanity,” the D-League call-up captured
    the nation’s attention out of nowhere in the biggest basketball city in
    America. He knocked down a 3-pointer to beat the Toronto Raptors at the
    buzzer, averaged 14.6 points and 6.2 assists on the year, and helped the
    Knicks to the playoffs.
    After fighting just to
    make a roster before “Linsanity” – Jeremy Lin became a superstar
    instantly. Basketball fans had fun with the rags-to-riches story, and
    Knicks fans were having the most fun they’d experienced since the Larry
    Johnson, Allan Houston and Latrell Sprewell era.
    But
    the most fun Jeremy Lin’s had? That was this past season, in his first
    year with the Charlotte Hornets, according to the point guard.
    “This
    was the most fun I have had in my six years (in the NBA) by far. It’s
    not even close in terms of being around a good group of guys (and) a
    coaching staff that really cares. I’ve learned so much about the game of
    basketball, especially on the defensive end. I’m just going to remember
    a lot of the friendships and the memories,” Lin said.
    The
    Hornets’ season ended on a down note, with a demoralizing 106-73 loss
    to the Miami Heat on Sunday. But despite the disappointing ending, Lin
    said he appreciates the camaraderie the Hornets built, starting with the
    team’s trip to China in October and ending with the franchise’s first
    playoff victory in more than a decade.
    “You
    bounce around a lot like I have, you see a lot of different
    organizations and there is definitely a lot of good things I can
    appreciate about this one in terms of my experience that I didn’t have
    in other situations,” he said. “The loss (to the Heat) hurts man. The
    loss hurts. I will be thinking about it for a while. If you asked me
    would I be interested in coming back, there’s no question in my mind,
    it’s a resounding yes, I would be very interested in coming back.”
    Lin
    has a $2.2 million player option for the 2016-2017 season, but between
    his strong performance coupled with the NBA’s rising salary cap, he’s
    likely to opt out to become a free agent – joining Nicolas Batum,
    Courtney Lee, Al Jefferson and Marvin Williams.
    “Jeremy
    Lin, you could argue in many ways had the best year of his career.
    Maybe not efficiently, but in terms of playing offense, playing
    defense,” said Charlotte coach Steve Clifford.
    Lin
    came off the bench in 65 of the Hornets’ 78 games this season,
    averaging 11.7 points per game and 3.0 assists. Even without a starting
    role, he said he appreciated that Clifford “never sugarcoated” anything
    heading into the year. After a six-year career with five different NBA
    franchises, Lin believes he’s found a fit.
    He
    said they money is important because it reflects how much an NBA team
    values the player – and Lin knows from personal experience players with
    lower salaries are more likely to be reduced to fringe roles, but that
    doesn’t mean he’ll chase a big contract at the expense of a good
    situation.
    “My biggest thing is I want to have
    fun and I want to be happy. Obviously, this is all relative to NBA
    salaries. But I’ve been paid on the lower end and had a blast. And I’ve
    been paid on the higher end and not enjoyed it at all. So, for me, going
    into my seventh year, money has never been the most important thing,”
    he said.
    Lin hasn’t always had this perspective.
    Early in his career, he was an undrafted player bouncing from the NBA
    to the D-League doing everything he could just to make it into the NBA.
    Then, all of a sudden, he was among the most famous faces in the league.
    Since
    then, he’s been on a 54-win Houston Rockets team and a 21-win Los
    Angeles Lakers team. He’s experienced the full spectrum of the NBA in
    his six years – different cities, situations, locker rooms and levels of
    stardom. Yet when he compares this Charlotte Hornets team to another
    he’s played with, he goes back to his high school team, a group with no
    superstars that found a level of chemistry that can be so hard to
    predict or sustain.
    “I’ve never seen a group of
    guys at the professional level – one through 15 – get along with each
    other. It wouldn’t be uncommon to see all 15 of us doing something
    together. That’s really, really rare,” he said.

  • TTNN

    He called out his coach to the media, that wouldn’t be a good player on the team

  • Maknusia

    Thanks…that do give some perspective…I guess…we could only wait and see how the FA unfolds…..As long as Jeremy is happy….I will be happy for him as well. Go Lin and grab those stars!

  • DaBoss

    They were actually talking about him on Max and Marcellus – in fact talked about Courtney Lee, Nic Batum, and Jeremy going to Lakers – pie in the sky talk. Said Jeremy would be excellent as a backup. No thanks – an insult to be back up to a player like DA Russell or Clarkson. No way.

  • Yes, it’s Lin’s turn to grab those stars 🙂
    Those stars have been grabbing Lin too much .. plus shoving + elbowing

  • JoeTeam

    Magic talk about mentoring russell and Mitch talk about needing a pg means Clark could be on the bubble. Who knows if press info is right.

  • CJSHYY

    In fact, I don’t think they really like Russell but they just couldn’t trade him. Here is what Mitch said about these two.

    https://twitter.com/billoram/status/721055578898845696

  • CJSHYY

    JC will be SG. Not sure about Russell?

  • CJSHYY

    I think what FO had in mind were different from media.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i like Magic but he’s so wrong if he thinks a player of Lin’s caliber in his prime is gonna take on a mentoring role for the Lakers. you get someone who is 36 years old to do that

  • DaBoss

    Yes – these guys were just talking the way sports radio does – their wish list. But really don’t like them categorizing Jeremy as an excellent backup pg.

  • Acbc

    You only want to hear what you want to believe. Bleed a little for Lin and maybe I’ll listen to you.

    Springsteen said it best about “the poets down here who stand back and let it all be and when they finally reach for their moment, they only wound up wounded, not even dead”. Lin is too brave to stand back and let it all be…

  • Hope

    It makes sense now y Boss screwed Housht Morey eel over during his free agency couple years ago.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin will be starting PG not backup for Lakers.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Butler is ultra competitive and wasn’t afraid to speak up when things aren’t going well. i commended him when he called out the whole team (probably wanted to call out just Rose but couldn’t). Rose was taking easy in practice and it carried over on the courts but Fred didn’t do anything about it. if you can catch some of the replays, watch Rose on the defensive end, he’s just like Harden

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, that’s very disrespectful because any bball commentator knows JLin’s real story. The facts have been out there forever.

  • DaBoss

    I really hope he will choose to be a starter. I understand he loved his time in Charlotte, but who knows which players are really coming back for sure – except Kemba and a couple others. The roster could be very different than this past year.

  • CJSHYY

    I found out LA media seem to be out of touch w rest of NBA teams. They only care LA teams. Unlike NY media.

  • JoeTeam

    the article I read was Magic wanted to mentor Russell, so that means Clark is out if the other article about Mitch saying he doesn’t think either is a PG. So that means one of them is SG. Not sure, it’s just to attract discussion, these articles I guess.

  • John Focker

    Byron Scott Says He ‘Was A Little Blindsided’ By Firing
    http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-byron-scott-says-he-was-a-little-blindsided-by-firing/2016/05/02/

    Lakers fans were more than blindsided by tanking…for TWO YEARS! And now rejoicing that BS is gone, obviously.

  • JoeTeam

    ok, then Magic will have to mentor Russell some other way ha ha.

  • DaBoss

    B Scott – continues to be out of touch with reality

  • JoeTeam

    ah thanks! So, anyway, I wouldn’t mind JLin starting for Luke because that goes back to Bill Walton and UCLA and Coach Wooden, which JLin stands for. But, it’ll take a lot of things falling into place. It would be very Linteresting if Luke can make a bold statement picking his moves fast.

  • Chopz

    Thats how clueless byron scott is. 2 of the worst seasons ever and you think you’re safe?

  • CJSHYY

    I was very upset when I saw Lin’s interview but after talked w few friends. We came up w that talk it’s more PR. I believe he do like his teammates but doubt he really will stay. Anyway, he will know what’s best for him. We will know in July.

  • John Focker

    Guys, I just realized that Bev’s 4-year 23M contract is a “decreasing” one, and from 2nd year on under the new salary cap, he’d be averaging UNDER 6M. Not a sign of respect from the Rox…and I LOVE IT!!!

    This is gonna be great contrast when Lin gets a healthy contract this summer…June 22 can’t come soon enough!

  • CJSHYY

    I believe they wanted to trade Russell but no team wanted him before trade dateline. They do want to keep JC as SG. He said he will be back.

  • Mr Chuckles

    So he was pulling a “long-con” all year. Even yelling at Lin exclusively during the season? Sorry, not buying it. He just wasn’t a good enough coach to look at the performances objectively and make the proper adjustments to get the ball in the hands of the only player who could make the games competitive.

  • Briiick

    I don’t mind a 17M/yr contract as a “backup”.

  • CJSHYY

    In fact, I always believe Lin will back to Lakers this summer until this morning exit interview made me so upset…. LOL! Well, Luke’s GSW style will match Lin’s wish the most. They also will improve their roster a lot in this FA so Lakers will become hot team again. It’s brand name team, lots of players like it.

  • PETE B
  • Briiick

    Magic doesn’t own any share of LAL if I remember correctly.

  • sws94

    Unbelievable.

  • In this forum, we’d like to be positive so I’d like to show appreciation to Coach Clifford in 2015-16 season
    (even if he’s not a perfect coach for Jeremy).

    I’ll do my Top 3:
    1. Cliff allowed Lin to be the hero (along with Kemba) to earn praises from national media in Game 3-5 win to increase his FA values
    Kenny Smith: “Linsanity! He was the key to the win in Game 5” plus a great TNT half-time presentation of Lin’s PG ability
    Isiah Thomas, Shaq, Ernie referred to a flash of Linsanity and his importance for Hornets to win games.
    2. Cliff helped to rebuild Lin’s reputation as strong defender with repeated praises in the media
    3. Finally, Cliff (or FO decision) giving Lin only 19 min in the biggest Game 7 despite shooting well would likely bring a dose of reality that Lin’s role will not be allowed to shine above Kemba/Batum/Frank. Any thoughts of Lin wanting to stay with his great teammates and finding home in Charlotte because coaches trust him when it matters most are most likely dashed. Doc Scheppler’s interview comment about there’s a certain pecking order of shots in Charlotte is proven true.

    If Cliff trusted Lin in Game 6 to help Kemba to win with defense on Wade and drawing FTs to go to the 2nd round vs Raptors, I can see Lin will be tempted to stay in Charlotte with a restructured 2-3 yr salary because of the great camaraderie.

    The lack of trust by Cliff (and FO) in Game 6 and 7 probably is a blessing in disguise for Lin.

    He’s freed to find his next home when he is at his peak age of 27 years old.
    And someday we can look back and really express our gratitude to Cliff for his belief, or lack thereof.

    Thank you, Cliff!

    http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/495534004-jeremy-lin-of-the-charlotte-hornets-gets-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXmuHDd85hRKfbCyM8lmY%2FHvU1bxsOpbYIsjfcZui9FsgZTNrv76bBMplsgE5k%2BuMzN%2FKE6nUtnFItYKu85Ianry1l9xe6zMiBpGEBqTeTJwe
    http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Steve-Clifford-Jeremy-Lin-e1448808213912.jpg

  • John Focker

    Truth comes out after Kobe and BS leave.

  • DX

    Well said.

  • Briiick

    Yes. When the dust settles, we find that Lin has achieved his goal of proving himself again with the 1+1 contract. Cliff has saved his own job while giving Lin limited yet precious opportunity.

  • Joe what do you know

    Byron Scott for Oscar!

  • Briiick

    I won’t be too surprised if Lin makes more than Harden next season.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin will get around 12M to 15M. More than Harden probably not….

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Finally crystal clear again. LOL!

  • John Focker

    Harden will make 16.7M next year, I’d be happy with anything 15M+. Though chances are @CJSHYY is probably correct with the 12M-15M range.

  • Briiick

    Become a King please.

  • John Focker

    The Jeremy stats polls haven’t been as fun these last two years, with Jeremy being jerked around in terms of PT and ball-handling (especially with the Lakers). With the advent of a new team that would potentially entrust Jeremy with starter PG duties, we can finally look forward to regular stats poll fun!

  • JJ Hui

    Where you got your Clifford’s information from? You made it up?

  • Briiick

    I used to predict that Rox fought for the 8th spot this season when Morey thought they went for the rings, LOL.

  • Maknusia

    indeed…lol

  • John Focker

    I read a similar analysis from the guy who correctly predicted Jeremy’s explosion vs. Spurs.

    Clifford was traumatized from the Mo Williams incident last year (singing Mo’s praises and p*ssing off ESM), and was walking on thin ice with Front Office prior to the extension, as Ewing has always eyed the HC position. It’s no coincidence that he made the “listen to HOFers” remark prior to G3.

    I was not a fan of Clifford, but after reading the analysis I truly believe that it’s the owner behind all this. It’s truly not that hard to believe that the guy who signed Kemba to represent his brand is actually pushing to showcase Kemba.

  • CJSHYY
  • Grace

    When fans say JLin is just being polite/nice in his exit interview or it’s just a PR move or he said the same thing last year with the Lakers (not really the same). In effect the fans are also saying JLin is insincere, not telling the whole truth – which is VERY WRONG and is VERY BAD for his reputation.

  • Maknusia

    yup….its gonna be one tough battle…OKC is hungry as well

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think it means insincere. Just like what Tim Bontemps said. Free agents almost always talk like they’re staying right after season.

  • sws94

    I just see another opportunity to repeat the Houston/Laker fiasco. Starter one day, not the next. Why is everyone so convinced that the next time is a charm? It’s still the NBA with its biases and business objectives whatever team that is out there. And why are we downplaying that Lin may be happy where he is? Genuinely happy.

    New team doesn’t mean working out for the best. And Lin basically said he’s tired of going to new teams. Lin, going on 28 next season, may actually value more stability and general enjoyment at his job more than another opportunity somewhere else for something that may go sour again (he now has experiences to draw from).

  • JJ Hui

    ESM? What is this?

  • Grace

    JLin is a Christian – not like all the other free agents. And he prides himself for being transparent/true to himself/ what you see is what you get.

  • Maknusia

    yup…its NBA…anything is possible….but keeping the hope positive is good thing too 🙂

  • John Focker

    Now that Kobe’s gone, Cousins is the next deserving diva. BS can get job via Vlade Divac connection.

  • sws94

    There are players all saying the same thing. Listen to Al, Marv, Lin and Courtney Lee’s interviews and the comments are very similar (also Kemba’s, who isn’t a free agent). They think the group of players are special, they had a ton of fun with these guys and think the team needs to try again going with much of the same guys. I don’t believe this is PR at all. I believe that sentiment is genuine. I think it is they are still very attached to the situation, and may then think more business and options in time, but right now I think they are all genuine about wanting this team to stay together.

  • sws94

    As is Marvin. Listen to both of their interviews. They say much of the same things and I think both are genuine and true to themselves.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree they do like the time they stay together.

  • LinMad

    The most hilarious comment I saw ….

    I’d like to see us do something like

    Batum – $72M/4yrs

    Marv – $18M/3yrs

    Lee – $15M/2yrs

    Big Al – $12M/2yrs

    Lin (will probably play out contract since he says he doesn’t care about money and doesn’t want to move again. If he does well next year, we can talk)

    Trade Lamb for a mid-late 1st and a couple 2nds

    That should leave us with enough room to go after an impact big on defense (Festus/Zaza/Whiteside)

    Who do you think you are? I am!!!

    by Ocracoma on May 2, 2016 | 8:24 PM up reply

  • Michael

    No court vision.

  • sws94

    My focus is on what Lin wants. Not anyone else. Him. And right now I’m so pleased to hear he had a fun season and can understand why he wants that in the future. How much it will all work with his teammates is to be seen but I for one am not so eager for him to chance being miserable again somewhere else because it *seems* right. I also think he me feel he and his teammates have unfinished business and that’s to go back and go deeper in the playoffs.

  • CJSHYY

    I already saw Chinese newspaper said Money is not important for Lin’s FA from Taiwan…..No one talked about what Lin said money also show how the team value you….

  • Grace

    I think they meant what they said but it’s not a done deal – so many factors/people involved.

  • LinMad

    They didn’t hear him say the other part of it.

  • freemind

    He did not speak ill of anyone. He is sincere when he said he enjoyed and had most fun year and playing with his teammates. He is sincere when he said he wants to return (however he will not broadcast his conditions on return: salary/role etc) so whatever he said is true. how it turn out eventually is conditional on the negotiation. If both party do not agree, they part ways in peace

  • sws94

    Right. It’s just how they feel now and I think it is genuine. May change indeed in time.

  • Maknusia

    yup true….i do believe the teammates were true to each other…..

  • CJSHYY

    I know…. smh!

  • Grace

    I agree.

  • Michael

    I read Morey is not important…(chuckles)

  • I think it’s good for JLin as a Christian to focus on the positives of team chemistry and genuine interest to consider coming back to the Hornets without making a commitment, especially one day after the disappointing loss.

    Even if JLin has disappointment of not playing more time in Game 7 even when he deserved to, it’s not a good time and place to be brutally honest with the reporter by criticizing coaches or refs.

    FA decision can wait until July so it’s good to maintain good relationship by emphasizing all good things in the Hornets team 1-15

  • John Focker

    There’s nothing wrong with preparing for the worst, as long as one does not forget to always hope for the best.

    Btw, the ice bucket challenge is no longer trendy. 🙂

  • Brent Yen

    You should post this on a forum for Jokes….LOL

  • Michael

    Hi Brent, and I am not stalking you.

  • Michael

    Sorry just bored that this season is over…well technically not yet.

  • John Focker

    That’s your version of how Jeremy feels which may, or may not, be what he truly feels. It’s pointless to argue until Jeremy’s own actions speak the truth. Until then your hypothesis is just as good, or as bad, as anyone else’s.

  • wandertheglobe

    He wants a chance to interview with Kings and Rox….love it.

  • John Focker

    Enes Kanter – $70M/4yrs…just saying…

  • Whitman Lam

    Beverley isn’t being paid for his leadership skills, and at the time, the coaches intention was to make him backup for Ty Lawson.

  • wandertheglobe

    Max and Marcellus are Lin fans. They said Lin to back up Russell or Clarkson? Dream on…

  • sws94

    I’m pretty much going with what he says. If and when Lin says otherwise, I’ll go with that.

  • Grace

    I fully support what JLin did and I believe he was sincere. I just wish the fans would be careful and not stain his reputation.

  • Whitman Lam

    Kanter is worth every dollar. His defense and rebounding is Top 10 in the league, and he comes off the bench !

  • JoeTeam

    not sure, I guess so. He talks like he’s an insider though.

  • sws94

    I don’t know about game 7, I think he’s upset at about losing game 6. I only saw the 2nd half of game 7 and things got out of hand way too quickly in the 3Q. I was left wanting to hear Cliff explain Lin’s short minutes but no one really asked him about it.

  • JoeTeam

    Luke can’t go meet with LAL owners now, because of focus on the playoffs that will go many many weeks if GSW are on track. So, the LAL conjecture will be all wild until Luke gets his head sync’d with LAL. It’s an interesting opportunity for Lin …

  • wandertheglobe

    I missed Lin by a couple days, I just passed through CLT on Sunday.

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, but I think Lin would take less that is respectable for starter, and more national press, better quality and dollar endorsement deals. We need a guy like Lin selling ideas and stuff … tired of the Khardasians lol you know what I mean.

  • JoeTeam

    if you are a LAL fan, then think about Luke and his platform, GSW, and who Luke would want on his ideal team. Let us know … I don’t know LAL team anymore just NYoung.

  • JoeTeam

    some are legit opinions, and some are just illogical.

  • John Focker

    Excel Sports Management, who have Kemba, Al, Cody, Lamb, and Tyler under their wings.

  • John Focker

    Right, because brutal honesty in burning bridges by saying “BS s*cks b*llz I’m never coming back to stinkin’ Lakers” is SOOOOOoooo professional and politically correct.

    Some people really need to hear what they’re saying before they just spurt the words out. Think McFly, think!!! (not at Grace)

  • JoeTeam

    it’s all good in negotiations …

  • John Focker

    I’m possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that in no way with any amount of uncertainty that I undeniably do or do not know where BS shouldn’t probably be interviewing, if that indeed wasn’t where he isn’t. Even if he wasn’t at where I knew he was.

  • Phoenix Rising

    I think you meant offense.

  • JoeTeam

    You just take what Lin makes and subtract that from what Harden makes because he spends so much. So it’s ok, it’s who concentrates their capital to do good they way they believe it should be used. Money … it’s easy to know you can’t take it with you, but it’s harder to understand how to use it to do good.

  • Grace

    context of the above message — fans are using every excuse just to make their point that JLin will not sign with the Hornets and it’s starting to affect people’s impression of JLin’s character. It’s fine if it’s just “crazy” Lin fans but it’s not ok to insinuate that JLin is not telling the entire truth.

  • sws94

    I don’t think he deserves to be on any coaching staff as an assistant and he should never even think of being a head coach.

  • Whitman Lam

    He’s a decent shot blocker.

  • John Focker

    I believe that he genuinely likes his teammates, so that part is true and sincere. Now whether Hornets can give him what he pursues (starting PG role and/or contract salary), that’s a different story. And this is the part where people digress, whether the “coming back to Hornets” part is PR talk or has actual substance.

  • John Focker

    That was my point, Enes for $70M/4yrs while Asian discount $4.xM/2yrs. Surely Jeremy gets a huge pay raise this summer, but I doubt he’d get as much…even as a starter.

  • John Focker

    I don’t think BS deserves to be coaching, but I do think spoiled rotten Harden or Cousins deserve someone like BS. LOL

    PS: I’m disappointed that you ignored my Shrek reference…

  • Phoenix Rising

    0.7 blocks per 36 mins…

  • Mr Chuckles

    I hope it goes 7 (Spurs winning). My home team is GSW so give Curry time and tire out the old Spurs.

  • CJSHYY
  • Brent Yen

    lol….just woke up?

  • okay, you reminded me I need to get started to see who won the poll this year 🙂
    I’ll start tomorrow

  • CJSHYY

    Center always paid more than PG.

  • CJSHYY
  • james brown

    i think other lost the appetite for hope and settle for what now is giving them. it is so hard for others to see that somewhere out there are opportunity ready to be taken only if he allowed himself a little step forward than stopping because of fear of the unknown!

    our opinion here sometimes reflect who we are as a person so be careful on what we speak ans say..

    #justmyopinion!

  • Spot

    Wow! I’m not the only one, so! LOL!

  • Jedi

    Sorry I didn’t play. I sucked at it so bad cos I’m always optimistic for Lin, and kept getting burned.

  • Jedi

    I guess it doesn’t matter to the Hornets fans that they are greatly underpaying Lin for his services. It’s like…let’s exploit him until he leaves kinda attitude. Well, that’s why us fans have Jeremy’s back and they are not fond of us. Cos we point out their collective bad attitude.

  • Joe what do you know

    And I’m sure my boss is going to give me a Lamborghini for Christmas this year….

  • John Focker

    We all did, with the way he was in and out for Roberts, PJ, Lamb, etc. we never knew what was coming next.

  • CJSHYY
  • Jedi

    If this is true, it changes a lot of things.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t agree more.

  • steven ko

    ESPN LA high on Batum and Horford. JLin around 8:30…http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=15449019

  • james brown

    deception unfold…liar to the max! what do they gain if they edit it to look jlin decided to comeback only to be refuted by jlins correct statements

  • This is a very sensible analysis by a Hornets fan

    It’s gonna be tough to bring everyone back

    Guys may take discounts to stay, but they’re not going to take significantly less. 20-30% discount is one thing, but 50% – not happening. If Brooklyn or Philly offer Lin a starting job and 12 million – I doubt he’d stay in Charlotte as a backup for 6 million. This may be his last shot at a big payday and possibly experience running his own team. Marvin is the type of versatile stretchy 3 & D PF that teams are looking for. He has early bird rights and the Hornets can’t go over the cap and pay him much more than what he’s already making (I think they can pay him ~12m max). If GSW let Barnes walk (he turned down 16m/per over 4 years) they might try to replace him with Marvin. If you’re Marvin, how do you turn down that opportunity? I don’t see him taking less than $10m after a great regular season. Al Jefferson wants to stay and Clifford loves him, but is he willing to come back on a mid-level deal? There’s a lot of teams that want 3 & D wings, so Courtney Lee will probably have several teams interested. How willing is he to come back and split time in the backcourt with Batum/MKG/Lin/Lamb?

    So yeah, guys like Courtney Lee and Jeremy Lin are probably tired of bouncing around from team to team. Sticking with a team and playing with a group and coach they like does factor into decisions. But nothing is guaranteed. They could take a discount to stay and end up getting traded to a bad situation. Clifford could get fired (stranger things have happened) and Byron Scott could replace him. You have to look out for yourself. If they do stay, they will probably structure their contracts with trade kickers and player options to protect themselves.

    Even with no new additions, it will be tough to bring everyone back. Any scenario involving a big free agent will undoubtedly mean most of those guys won’t be returning. I don’t know MJ’s appetite for going over the cap and into the tax for a team that (realistically) can be really, really good but not quite championship caliber (ie. Raptors) but even then, under current CBA rules it’s going to be difficult.

    by johnny_33

  • TTNN

    LOL, that’s just business. You should go check Marvin’s exit interview He was all about how he love this team, how he want to come back, and then one reporter ask him about whether he would like to take a discount to play back in Hornets, he go with “that’s business, and I will have to talk to my agent about it…” LOL, nicest guy Marvin, can’t blame him.

  • Michael

    so add another 15 minutes and he will get 1 whole block….unfortunately that is 51 minutes.

  • Michael

    Sounded quite straight forward to me, right now it’s just time for the warrior to get some well deserved rest. Listened to Cliffs interview…the guy is waaaaay too high on Batum lol.

  • Maknusia

    This was mentioned is some articles…I guess…here is what he said

    “Honestly, money has never been the most important thing. Money is important because it shows how a team values you. But beyond that I don’t care all that much about money. Me coming here (for slightly more than $2 million a season) showed that.”

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article75213027.html

  • fungch1218

    Reason why Lin’s 2nd year in HOU is better than this year in CHA?

    1. Better FG%, 3PT% and Assists. (FG 44.6%, TS% 57.2% and FT 82.3% career high)

    2. Lin got his 1st Triple Doubles.
    3. Lin closed games more than he closed in CHA
    4. HOU had better rebounders and PnR finishers.
    5. More play time, HOU 28.9mins , CHA 26.3mins
    6. More games as starter, HOU 33games, CHA 13games

    Problem is, Harden was a bad defender and McHale was a bad coach.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Is JLin leaving for Taiwan?

  • John Focker

    And pros this year:

    1) Got major credit for beating Raptors (35pts), Cavs (in Kemba absence), and 23pt-reversal of Spurs.
    2) Washed bad-D propaganda by Morey and minions.
    3) Saved G3, G4, and G5 and got major kudos, unlike HOU’s rhetoric “Lin cost us the series” when in fact he saved it.
    4) Hornets fans LOVED him, as opposed to Rox forums trashing him with racist material, text and graphics.
    5) CHA did not give #7 jersey to prospects for next year.
    6) CHA wants him to stay, not dumping him to a tanking team.

    Can’t have a balanced dialogue without presenting both sides. 🙂

  • Rick Johnson

    As a backup point guard, no thanks.

  • John Focker

    Gotta love CHA fans, they are so even-keeled, civilized, and intelligent. Especially compared to…(fill in the blank).

  • Phoenix Rising

    Saw this pic, and thought of sharing it with you. Don’t know why 😛

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Don’t believe so. Most likely going back to SF.

  • Michael

    me (╯°益°)╯彡┻━┻

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    short shorts?

  • Dan Ang

    Backup is a bad word!

  • Dan Ang

    Man, Joseph looks like a guy you can get wasted with!

  • Dan Ang

    Love the last line!

  • Dan Ang

    Hahah thats a lot of change for a bench playa!

  • Dan Ang

    Too much yapping…all I want to read/see/ or hear is what fun things Jeremy Lin is doing in the off season.

  • Cycloben

    Just take the max money, Jeremy. Do not listen to any promises from coaches and gms. If worse comes to worst, you will be sitting on the pine at 12 mil per instead of 2 mil per.

    No more asian discounts.

  • Cycloben

    Yeah, tired of all the disrespect and politics. It is time to party and spend some of that 2 mil asian discount.

  • Cycloben

    thanks for the laugh, man. this boy is delusional.

  • Linsurance

    Jeremy Lin said he “absolutely” wants to return to @hornets. Said he’d even take a discount and this season was most fun he’s had in @nba via RodBoone on Twitter

  • Cycloben

    l9ol what?

  • Dan Ang

    Yep, JLin needs to get lit when he comes back to Cali.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I sadly agree a bit with you…..Lin’s statement went beyond what he stated about the Lakers but even than, I do feel Lin would had not minded returning to the Lakers if they really wanted him back…At the end of the day, Scott didn’t want Lin because he felt he was soft and they already had their eyes on either signing Rondo or drafting a PG.

    I’m still hoping a new team like Net, Utah or even Grizzlies will make it hard on Lin to stay with Charlotte by offering him a starting job and large contract….I’m also pretty sure Charlotte will only take Lin back if he’s willing to play well under his market value….At this point, Lin will have no choice but to leave and go elsewhere.

  • KL

    Hey are you the guy that wants Lin to stay as a backup in the Hornets for the minimum? Hence your handle implying that Lin should be insurance for Kemba…

  • kittyhead

    You had better watch the video first…

  • Barry Allen

    I’ve heard this one, doesn’t it start with…. ‘An Irishman a nun and a Leprechaun walk into bar………..’?

  • Linsurance

    I’m just saying a Lin Quote.
    And Lin is no insurance for Kemba, Where was Lin game 6???

  • Barry Allen

    No way Lin will play out his contract. Wherever he goes, he will still opt out. That part is a no brainer.

  • donsmacau

    Here’s a couple more JLIN quotes, “I think money’s important because it shows the team’s investment in you…how they value you” and “honestly haven’t thought about free agency yet”

  • Maknusia

    lol….I guess…most of us just want Jeremy to be happy wherever he decide to go….and if Hornets gives him a fair deal to Lin’s liking…then why not

  • Linsurance

    Why are ya’ll doubting Jeremy wants to stay? Do you guys personally know him?

    Maybe Jeremy does not think he is a All-Star caliber player like you all do.

    All he said is he wants to stay in Charlotte

    He gets to play around starters minutes and seems to love his teamates.

  • freemind

    When you said “new team doesn’t mean working out for the best” “fiasco” that’s kind of pessimistic view of Lin current ability to make best decision for himself. He learnt from past of what he doesn’t like and no doubt in my mind he would make the best decision for him.

    Earlier this year he posted on FB : ‘You don’t become great by doing what’s easy or comfortable.’ and in recent April interview “Everybody wants to start and be the man, me included” he said that twice in two different interviews. He is at his prime, he should explore available offers and find a match. Well that includes team Hornet in which he openly said he will return. What wasn’t mentioned was the terms.. a BIG IF the terms and conditions aligns. If Hornets does not make him an acceptable offer comparable to his value (even with charitable teammate discount he is willing to accept), or Hornets intent all along was for him to ride out his contract. It clearly implies Lin needs to bolt FAST. He already said in his interview $$=>investment=>value.

    Also there is no guarantee his teammates return to Hornets. Maybe they have some form of understanding that they will return if somehow the same team were kept together Marv/Al/Nic/Lee/Lin but realistically this ain’t happening

  • BobbyH

    Personally I don’t really like Hornets FO. Even if Lin opt out and ask for a long term deal, we don’t know if Horents FO would do a Mav like last year. Horents don’t value that much in Lin (just look at the usage of game 7). They can get a replaceable bench PG from the market. Besides, if you are a bench warmer, you are replaceable. Just look at where Lamb is now.

    Just be careful. Teammate and friendship is priority. But if you work for a corporate and have great co-workers to work with, but with a lousy job function and a bad boss and yes-mouth manager that won’t recognize your contribution and utilize your talents, would you be happy?

  • Barry Allen

    I think the main gist of it is, nothing is set in stone and Lin is a smart and classy guy who won’t burn bridges or intentionally make people (or organizations) look bad for no reason. Negotiations will be the next step, you never know what he is looking for…. starting PG role, to play less of a backup role and more PG/distributor. Also, he said he never charted a time course to return to play for a particular franchise (maybe he meant in the future as a main PG).

    Even if he doesn’t sign with Charlotte, it does not mean anything he said is untrue. He will probably look at all the offers and evaluate them. Sure he may like to return, but there may be other offers that are better, or he may think of returning down the line instead. Also, whatever he said is at a certain point, feelings and perspectives change with time.

    You don’t have to lie to be polite, just not be rude.

  • zxcvb

    “So we’ll see. But I’m definitely interested in coming back.”

    Yawn. Same PR stuff as last year, only nicer. He’s gone if Brooklyn/Philly/whoever offer a starting gig. But there’s no need to burn bridges or not support teammates until then. Lin is always classy and professional.

  • kittyhead

    You dont watch the video and put words into Lin’s mouth…enough saying…smh

  • BobbyH

    He is just trolling

  • CJSHYY
  • Acbc

    Boy, you’re name says it all! Linsurance is what Lin is to the Hornets. I guess you must really want Lin to be a backup non entity to use that as your call handle, lol

  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The FO would love to hear Lin planning to opt out but on the contrary, Lin has put them into as awful situation as they their worst enemy could have put them into. How could they respond? The FO knows damn well they threw away game 6 and 7 to avoid overachieving and their effort could only be justified if Lin starts telling everybody he would opt out. The FO must hate Lin ever more.

  • Acbc

    This reminds so much of how abused wives all stay with their bad husbands because they’re too afraid of what worst scenario they might wind up in. Sure it’s stable, sure they may get kicked once in awhile, but it’s a roof over the head.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    $ speaks the kind of respect in deploying you. Lin must take the most $$$ he could get. Then he would get the most respectable role that he wants.

  • K

    “if that’s an option”

  • BobbyH

    Yes, the move from Lin, intentional or not, has indeed put Hornets FO in an awkward position. If Lin opts out, which he will as stated in exit interview, and FO has priorities (Batum/Center/MW), and left with not much in cap, then whose fault would be if the deal is never be done? Remember, Lin said signing the long term deal is the perfect situation. But what is perfect situation for both ends in terms of $$$. He also said in the very end of the interview that a player without much $$ invested from the team can be cut anytime. Just think about it. Lin is sincere but at the same time business savvy.

  • james brown

    yeah, hornets will be lin’s insurance just in case….he doesn’t see the market yet but he has still hornets bridge, for now no reason to burn it , because there was no bad blood there.(jlin’s opinion on all his teammates)

  • james brown

    not because jlin said he will give discounts means he will give his service for free…his contract for 2mil with hornets is still binding until he opt out (which he will to up his market price). he gave hornets a free taste of what he can offer, now is the time for hornets to pay, not to ask for another discount because jlin also knew that investment value determines that one player is needed and wanted

  • Brewkowski

    Lol, he couldn’t wait to leave. I guess I would too.

  • Brewkowski

    Next year’s roster may be very different.

  • Maknusia

    lol…matching sandals

  • Bulldog

    Jimmy Butler is another ballhog SG.

  • Maknusia

    friends and family…who wouldn’t…and need some fresh air as well

  • Bulldog

    Good strategy. No more Asia discount.

  • Brent Yen

    We need to slow down, still 2 months until FA….at this rate…..we probably will become the “source” of some rumors very soon…LOL

  • Maknusia

    lol…probably its already happening?! hmmm

  • JJ Hui

    So MJ is not that smart to get a short guy to represent his NBA brand! Jlin never play for MJ from now on unless Lin is the one who represent MJ’s brand! MJ didnt want the AA to outshine his race, period!

  • CJSHYY

    That’s the way it’s before FA really starts every year. LOL!

  • CJSHYY
  • freemind

    In the meantime let’s shop 🙂 got notified that Jlin past season crazy light boost 2.0 shoes are on sale for ~US$40. Well this is the Adidas China so grab yourself a pair if in that region
    http://www.adidas.com.cn/s84908

    The new boost 2.5 is onsite with a cool banner !
    http://www.adidas.com.cn/campaign/crazylight

  • Brent Yen

    Too bad, not in China. But I have a Jlin Lakers shoe…I guess I will wait for a few more years

  • Epie

    Exceeded Linsurance benefit limit 30 games ago. Kemba claimed too many times.

  • Michael

    shoe?…what happened to the other one?

  • CJSHYY
  • Michael

    Lol I like the way you describe them getting a PG from the market, like picking up a turnip.

  • freemind
  • Maknusia

  • CJSHYY

    RW pushed Ginobili that should be foul….? What’s wrong w Ref?

  • BobbyH

    It is a Win/Win. We will never get bored and the site has hits. And we will definitely become the secret sauce. LOLOL

  • Michael

    Wonder who will go on the fishing trip with him?

  • Maknusia

    Is that the new Sauce’s name? “WinWIn” lolz

  • BobbyH

    Those blind refs, blinded by $$$

  • BobbyH

    You talking about Win/Win 1010 AM radio in NYC?

  • 22cents

    It is not enough. He was expected to “do” well while on the bench. ^_^.

    Everything is Lin’s fault. Ha Ha.

  • grover chang

    Bird wanted to play small. Vogel changed back to playing bigger line up. So Vogel out. Could kindve see why Cliff, BS, McHale are so spineless. How many of us would give up millions of dollars for one players career.

  • Brent Yen

    Some sleeper took it….

  • Brent Yen
  • donsmacau

    Blacks are the first to demand affirmative action – but what about for even more historically discriminated groups like Asian-American?
    ———————————————-
    Stephen A. Smith thinks the NBA should adopt a “Rooney Rule,” the NFL rule that requires National Football League teams to interview minority [Black] candidates for head coaching and senior football operation jobs. On the day [Brooklyn Nets Sean] Marks was hired, here’s what Smith had to say…

    “Just to make sure if nothing else that black candidates are being interviewed for these jobs and more importantly that we know who they are. when they are interviewed so we can stop hearing about these other names coming out nowhere that never happen to be black. At least get us in the mix where we start seeing guys –there’s a plethora of assistant coaches out there, there are a plethora of basketball minds out there, guys who are assistants under the GM… These names need to be heard.”

  • Maknusia

    20151216 Hornets vs Magic Jeremy Lin fancam

  • Maknusia

    always fun to rewatch! 🙂

  • donsmacau

    Informative Interview:

    Bobby Marks thinks that Charlotte will need to get all of their other free agents signed first before addressing JLIN because JLIN’s deal requires pure cap space and by then they will have lost time as everyone seeking point guards will have given JLIN an offer already.

    Chris Mannix, “[Jeremy Lin] was really good for them … losing him would be a body blow”

  • HVJoy

    hahaha

  • Maknusia

    you sure not referring to WinLin

    http://www.winlin.com/aImg/26483.jpg?1462290847

  • HVJoy

    No, Lin-Win is the name of the new Sauce. 🙂

  • HVJoy

    Allright, you win. WinLin it is. I don’t have a cool picture for Lin-Win Sauce to compete with you. Lol.

  • Maknusia

    Yeah…I tried searching as well..nothin came close…

    http://www.millermicro.com/060110WinLin.jpg

  • JoeTeam

    so cool, given where JLin is negotiating from, CHA would not provide him a good basis either so FA will be all up to the skill of his negations team. Go Lin’s Team.

  • Kudos to Lin Italian fans who made video tribute for Jeremy!
    @Spot:disqus, are you 1 of them?

    @Danjiele
    @JLin7 https://www.facebook.com/soloveranba/videos/vb.506057746233549/553103264862330/?type=2&theater … Hi Jeremy, this is our tribute to you man! (We’re Italians). Hope you’ll like it 🙂 We love you <3

    https://twitter.com/Danjiele/status/727172980678209537

  • JoeTeam

    JLin says, “Be still …”

    So, may I make a suggestion?

    Psalm, it would be v nice while we wait for this site to poll some key predictions so we know what everyone is thinking and later can compare to what really happens. We want to start scoring ourselves, so we can see if we really know what is real.

    Like …

    How many offers will JLin get? Seems like a soup of opinion to me, and I’d like to know what happens and how wise our people are.

    You know, more foundation stuff that answers questions about how we view JLin and can be checked off and calibrated later. One question per poll.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if this site got 80-90% of major debate topics right … it’s the wisdom of the crowds that the web can give back.

  • JoeTeam

    thanks Dan – when I was younger, I didn’t thing money was a good thing to strive for given I was raised in the immigrant class so we learned to value money as a sustenance thing. One couldn’t count on it being there, so you just always suspected if you were faced with a choice to make money or be loyal to each other.

    Now that I am older, I would ethically take any amount that I earned, move it off the risk table, and then worry about how to use it wisely for the good. It’s not just giving it away. It’s more useful sometimes to use it to inspire people to start a snowball, that is all you need to do, and great communities spawn from the initial use of the money. Things like club teams, businesses that do good, contributing to a lasting endowment, and of course, the traditional charity on it’s annual fund drive. The use of the monies are infinite, and I think JLin gets that.

    I don’t see him living a life of hedonism, so it’s nice to see him win resources from the world.

  • I think that’s a great idea and we can expand it by having a season recap first (JLin starter/reserve stats, PG/SG stats difference, Playoff MVP based on NetPoints) so people have informed decisions before voting if Lin should stay or move, be a combo PG/SG guard or PG, starter/backup, etc.

  • Even better if we finish with this season recap, we can do Google Hangout interview with JLin to ask him what he thinks about them 🙂 Ask him & his family to vote LOL

  • Sophie Paris

    Lin is always politically correct… His agents will talk to him xD

  • JoeTeam

    that would be cool, and if you can say 100, 500, or 1200 fans said this, is this true?

    Just keep it very high level and foundational so we can judge and make our choices accountable to remove all the wailing at the wall.

  • that would certainly be fun. And I can wear different Lin’s hairstyle(+glasses!) throughout the interview to throw him off 🙂

    Now if only I can find extra time to do so hehe..

  • CJSHYY
  • alain gervais

    Statistically speaking. White women was the group mostly helped by affirmative action

  • occupatio

    youre funny brent

  • alain gervais
  • alain gervais

    Last year i though JLiin waited too long because of the deandre and mavs situation. Please don’t wait too long again for everyone to sign because of the hornets. Hornets don’t have the cap space for lin. They will have to make some. That will take too long

  • kauaiblue

    Race is STILL the main factor in prejudice and disparate treatmemt… racism is STILL alive and kicking here in the good ol us of a…

  • alain gervais

    Harvard’s general counsel, Robert Iuliano, said the university “has demonstrated a strong record of recruiting and admitting Asian American students”, and pointed out that the percentage of admissions had increased from just over 17% to 21% in the last decade – much higher than the proportion of Asian Americans in the US population.

    This wouldn’t happen with out affirmative action. Those school in the 50’s wouldn’t allow any minorities or women

  • It’s a good idea if teams are willing to commit early to Lin this season.
    Last year was so bad because Lin didn’t have much FA value after the Lakers tanking season that he had to wait for all big players (DeAndre, LMA) to be done deals.

    It’ll be interesting if Nets and 76ers (Memphis/Bulls) would make it a priority to resign Lin early so it would snow-ball to other teams making their bids. That would be the best-case scenario

    JLin’s Hornets MVP playoff performance and Spurs/Celtics/Cavs performance really made national media put a spotlight on him by using “flash of Linsanity” words repeatedly.

  • kauaiblue

    Well, the anti discrimunations of the 1960s helped… ur right… women and racial minoroties get utterly screwed… i still believe that harvard totally screws asian students regardless of their red herring argument regarding population percentages… if u deserve to get in, u cant artificially shut them out… bs crep from harvard, princeton and other ivy league schools… asian students need to SUE…

  • alain gervais

    Lin wants to go back to hornets but the more i look at it. It puts him at a disadvantage. The guy below said 6 million lol Lamb gets 7 million next year. Thats not happening. Everything points to Lin being the odd man out. I just hope Lin is sensible and don’t try to force himself back to the hornets. The issue is hornets know if Lin leaves they won’t be nearly as good. H*** maybe hornets go for dwight. Lin can leave then.

  • heart
  • Spot

    They’re trolls, don’t believe them.

    I watched their page and they just make fun of Lin.

  • alain gervais

    I understand

  • alain gervais

    Batum will never be an allstar. He is just not popular enough

  • It’s really bizarre to follow the discussion that assumes Lin would resign with $6M, less than $7M Lamb who Cliff didn’t even trust towards the end of season and playoff.

    Some Hornets fans focused too much on “Lin would take a discount” while ignoring “but $$ shows team commitment” from Lin’s interview.

    If we go by Lin’s interview, Hornets offering less than $7-8M would be way below market value & not showing team commitment.

    Even if Dwight “I Hate PnR and Want to Post like Olajuwon” Howard signs with Hornets, we’ll hear more about the new Dynamic Duo of Kemba/Howard. Lin would stay as a shadow just like in Houston.
    I don’t see Lin want to relive that nightmare

  • CJSHYY

    That’s part of the deal if Batum comes back to Hornets they will try to push him to ASG.

  • His clutch numbers are really bad.
    He should stay as a great SF than this TO-prone SG (in simple passing)

  • alain gervais

    Dwight back is bad. He isn’t the same players. too me anything less then 10 million is way too low remember 8 million is 5 million last year

  • alain gervais

    10 million is 8 million last year. Thats way too low

  • It’s definitely Hornets pitch to make him an All-Star so Batum will resign with them.

  • yes, if Brooklyn offers $12M, $10M is a good discount
    Not too low to make it easy for teams to trade Lin

    I don’t think Hornets is willing to pay $10M for Lin to be backup PG/SG

  • heart

    He makes several crucial TOs and slow when he initiates the offense. Opponents are catching up to reading his offense initiation. Lately, I’ve seen lots of interceptions on his pass.

  • Briiick

    Cliff should push KW ahead of Batum, don’t you agree ?

  • CJSHYY

    KW got his chance this season already … ASG first then MIP later…

  • heart

    Cliff wants NB to carry the play making load off KW, so KW can score. KW’s height issue default him into a pg role, but he’s really a sg first mentality. So NB & KW roles are reversed due to size.

  • Rick Johnson
  • Rick Johnson

    Chicago Sports News ‏@ChiSportUpdates 20h20 hours ago

    One name that I’m hearing that the #Bulls really like is Jeremy Lin.

    https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/727272172289298433

  • CJSHYY

    Last Dec. Already had rumor that Bulls wanted Lin….

  • CJSHYY

    I think so…:)

  • spiderman

    Let them back it up with $$.

  • KHuang

    Would be a good fit.

    Derrick Rose might be the “starter”, but Lin would play major minutes.

    The problem is that Jimmy Butler has become an iso ballhog. That’s what’s killed the Bulls this year.

  • heart
  • The glaring weakness is definitely on the long passes that are either too slow (lazy passes) or telegraphed passes that are so easily intercepted.

    Batum just didn’t look natural being the primary playmaker. He’s a good a secondary playmaker as an SF in Portland but not for one to initiate offense as a PG

    Kemba/Batum look OK against bad teams but just didn’t work against playoff-caliber teams.
    That’s way the duo almost never won big games.

    Too many wasted possessions with Kemba’s volume shooting and lack of Batum’s playmaking

  • alain gervais

    They are also thinking of playing Rose as a sg because he isn’t a real PG

  • takeme2cruz

    the more “likes” Jeremy Lin the better.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Rose will likely be traded and Butler is no ball hog

  • alain gervais

    HE will be gone by next year so It don’t matter. He was talking about the 2017 free agency in 2015 lol

  • KHuang

    Lin would easily have the Bulls back in the playoffs.

  • KHuang

    Lin and Butler would be the best backcourt in the East and #2 behind Curry and Thompson.

  • I really think Fred Hoiberg’s system suits well with JLin.
    He might be interested to gauge Lin’s interest

    Lin with the Bulls vs MJ’s Hornets would hurt MJ so much next season LOL

  • Rick Johnson

    Chicago Bulls Fans

    ‏@BullsViews

    #ChicagoBulls #Bulls You guys were right, we should have got Jeremy Lin

    https://twitter.com/BullsViews/status/727023088009928704

  • takeme2cruz

    Wow, I think so too.

  • takeme2cruz

    Rose is in his last season with the Bulls. Anything can happen.

  • takeme2cruz

    More will come out to admit wrong.

  • Rick Johnson

    Does Butler have a Prima Dona star attitude? Heard there is team chemistry issues with some stars not being held accountable.

  • Briiick

    Same can be said to Knicks if Lin joins Nets.

  • freemind

    Just saying .. both Nic and Lin has the same career avg at 11.7 ppg. Also for season avg, his TOV is 2.9 and Lins is 1.9. Why one is worth so much more beats me ?!?!
    all I can say is that he has a darn good agent that is selling the crap out of him

  • KHuang

    Yes, a prima donna attitude is what Butler has.

    Then again, Butler ACTUALLY PRODUCES.

    I can’t stand guys like Kobe and Walker and Harden and Anthony who have bad attitudes but do not produce.

  • takeme2cruz

    Click on link to read fans complaining why didn’t we (the Bulls) try to get Lin instead of Brooks?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    he demands a lot from his coach and teammates and called them out last year because of poor practice. they don’t like him much. i guess you can call that Prima Dona star attitude *shrug*. but that’s the kind of star player you’d want Lin to play with not the Harden, Kobe, Melo type

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes, if Lin and Butler can build chemistry and get a good rim protecting, PnR big, some 3pt shooters it could be a contending team.

  • Briiick

    The real downside of the duo is that the real high impact players never get to touch the ball.

  • Rick Johnson

    How about Lin / Butler / Howard ? Everyone thought Gasol was washed up on the Lakers but then reemerged on the Bulls. Or perhaps Festus Ezeli would be cheaper and better.

    https://twitter.com/BobbyPortisNews/status/726551720692568064

  • Rick Johnson

    Or how about Lin / Butler / Whiteside:

    https://twitter.com/digitaljournal/status/727350480486195201

  • man, can you imagine the amount of daily NY media coverage? 😀

  • alain gervais

    post it on top

  • takeme2cruz

    Heat and Hornets series, best players from each side were Whiteside and Lin.

  • alain gervais
  • heart

    You don’t hear Hornets media or national media harping on NB’s TOs. Cliff purposely avoids mentioning NB’s TOs in any of his interviews. Whichever narrative the owner/management/coach want the public to hear/know about they will use the media to bring it to the public. Constant repetitions or deliberate silence is the power of the media being orchestrated behind the scene by the powerful…

  • Rick Johnson

    That would be a formidable core.

  • alain gervais

    This won’t happen

  • takeme2cruz

    More rumors will come out meaning less and less and less chance going back to Charlotte.

  • Briiick

    Good news!

  • David Kim

    According to the source, Butler considers Rose a friend, but “doesn’t have a lot of respect for his work ethic.’’ In Butler’s mind, Rose was considered the face of the franchise, and if the face of the franchise wasn’t busting his butt in practice every day, especially last season, what was the message to the rest of the team?

  • alain gervais

    They don’t have the money. They would have to trade Lamb and hawes

  • takeme2cruz

    I would say the same in May last year if Lin would sign with the Hornets for 2 mil.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin is a super hard worker. May mesh well with Butler who plays both ends of the court.

  • alain gervais

    Its unlikely. Heat will do what ever to keep him

  • takeme2cruz

    Lol, most fans and media in Charlotte want Lin to come back with pay cut.

  • alain gervais

    10 million is a pay cut

  • Rick Johnson

    Rose on last year of contract, they may be trying to unload Rose who hasn’t been able to reliably stay on the court and tentative when he is on the court. Question is who would take his big contract. The 76ers / Hinklie dumping ground of bad contracts is probably closed now.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yup. when i head that news last year, i was thinking this guy is really competitive and speaks his mind. but a lot of people turned on him for it, including the whole locker room, media and fans. at that time, i believe the hornets were losing a bunch of games and clifford was starting to really marginalize Lin. i thought if only Lin had someone like Butler who isn’t afraid to speak up against cliffod and how he’s running things..

  • Cycloben

    Can somebody please tell me why batum is worth $24 million per year? He does not impress me one bit.

  • takeme2cruz

    Not that simple, Wade is also a free agent next season. They both can cost them easily $35 mil at least next season.

  • alain gervais

    This offseason looks much more interesting then last year lol

  • takeme2cruz

    Nope I read it was 5. They want Batum to get max

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    same reason Parsons is being paid $15+ mil per year. dumb league

  • alain gervais

    Lin- Ha…..Good luck with that buddy

  • takeme2cruz

    Agree, especially Lin’s stocks getting very high.

  • Cycloben

    the average fan / rube is so dumb …

  • takeme2cruz

    Cuban.

  • alain gervais

    Thats how charlotte view him. He is already getting 15 mill now. Thats 19 million next year to begin with. He played better then in portland. so yea.

  • CJSHYY

    He’s ranking #2 SF in this FA. Like it or not lots of teams want him….???

  • David Kim

    Because there is no better option…super star would not come to Hornets

  • Rick Johnson

    Anybody post this yet? Make you kind of sad breaking up a close group but that’s the NBA.

    https://youtu.be/RkYweOdDZ8g

  • takeme2cruz

    Best answer.

  • Rick Johnson

    So much money chasing so few players. It is unprecedented. People are still tossing around old numbers, I think they will be shocked at some of the contracts that are going to be coming out.

  • takeme2cruz

    Regardless, I hope Hornets will give Batum a long term max contract.

  • Rick Johnson

    Me too, so when they don’t make the playoffs next year they will realize how important Lin was to the team.

  • David Kim

    SHAANMASALA’S BLOG

    CHICAGO BULLS, NBA

    JEREMY LIN, JIMMY BUTLER TO JOIN FORCES?

    May 02, 2016image descriptionby Shaan

    Sam Sharpe-USA TODAY Sports

    It was a great season for the Charlotte Hornets and their fans, even though it ended in a bitter, ugly, 33 point defeat to Dwyane Wade’s Miami Heat. Jeremy Lin has played excellent basketball all season long, and is expected to opt out of his current contract with the Hornets and test the free agent market. Jeremy Lin gets a ton of criticism for not being the player he once was during his rise to fame with the New York Knicks, a period of his career known as ‘Linsanity’. But people around the NBA need to open their eyes. Jeremy Lin is an excellent point guard, and he’s still fairly young, has a ton of potential, and averaged a nice 12 points and 3 assists in only about 25 minutes off the bench.

    Is Jeremy Lin the answer to Chicago’s point guard problem? The oft-injured Rose is too unpredictable to count on, and after so many injuries, he is not the player he once was. He’s not an all-star anymore, a ghost of the youngest MVP in league history. The Bulls don’t have point guard depth off of the bench. Aaron Brooks is a streaky shooter that didn’t do much for Chicago this year, and he is aging fast. After trading Kirk Hinrich away to Atlanta this season, the Bulls were left with no true point guard off of the bench. He will be an unrestricted free agent this summer, and the Bulls should let him go. With Pau Gasol most likely leaving for greener pastures elsewhere, the Bulls should target Jeremy Lin.

    No disrespect to Derrick Rose, but not only do I think the Bulls should sign Jeremy Lin, I think he should start alongside Butler (if he’s not traded). I really don’t know if Derrick Rose’s ego would be able to swallow coming off of the bench, but if he wants his team to be the best that it can be, Rose should come off the bench. Rose’s and Butler’s chemistry issues have been well documented, and they have plagued the Bulls all season long. One has to come off the bench, or one has to leave, is the current buzz coming out of Chicago right now, and if Rose is traded away, which I think would be an ill-advised trade, because of the pieces that the Bulls may or may not get back, things would be a h*** of a lot easier for Butler to completely take over, and with a point guard like Lin running the offense, the Bulls could make a return to contender status.

  • alain gervais

    Lins value just keeps going up and his isn’t even playing basketball anymore

  • takeme2cruz
  • alain gervais

    Im happy Lin gain a ton of new friends. Im happy Lin learned so much last year but Lin has to relies his own goal to start and be a star. He may not like the locker room. He may not Know exactly how the next team will treat him. Still HE must go to another team. I think Lin saying so much he want to stay in charlotte shows he know its likely not to happen. They cant afford him. They cant play him consistently. MKG returns next year. Where will he play and when. He must get a chance to start. HE isn’t getting any younger. The time is now or never. if he sings a 3-4 year deal with charlotte he will be 31 by then. Lin know he cant return to charlotte. Still i would use charlotte in negotiations. Act like a team must pry you away from charlotte. Get a big contract and a starting position. Yesterday brooklyn was my favorite. Now its chicago. They will be in the playoffs. They have enough money to get maybe dwight as well. ITs too good of an opportunity to skip.

  • David Kim

    if the writer Shaan writes about hornets, he would’ve said that kemba should come off the bench…LOL

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I like this…. “No disrespect to Derrick Rose, but not only do I think the Bulls should sign Jeremy Lin, I think he should start alongside Butler (if he’s not traded).”

  • Briiick

    so that they don’t have $$ left to sign real winners.

  • CJSHYY

    This playoff helped him a lot. Too bad, if Hornets didn’t let Kemba ISO in game 6 they maybe in round 2 now.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t agree more on this statement. “Lin has to relies his own goal to start and be a star.”

  • alain gervais

    If he lead them to a win in game 7 he would of gotten a max contract lol. Cant let that happen

  • takeme2cruz

    lol.

  • Briiick

    Click, click, click …..

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I thought… before game 7 Lin said “This might be the biggest game of my life…” I guess Cliff sure wanted Lin do play big role in this game… but NO… he only got 19 min? So weird, they would rather loss than let Lin played? Still don’t think this is the team for his peak career to stay…It’s Kemba’s team not going to change anything for Lin. Discount or not.

  • Rick Johnson

    Bulls need a rim protector. Ezeli? Whiteside? Howard? Biyombo?

    https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/727491494592933888

  • Steppen03

    Well, my guess is if teams are seriously interested in making JL7 their “star” then they will have to jump on him asap when FA begins. That’s how I look at it: get your cornerstone first then build pieces around him. I like Bulls, Sixers, Nets, Grizz, Pacers. I believe teams have to show a genuine commitment to Lin as early as possible. As for Lin, he just have to weigh in all the variables.
    So yeah, at the end, I’m fine with the Hornets org and CCliff – for giving JL7 some lincredible games – directly or indirectly doesn’t matter because they did not said any bad about Lin.

  • donsmacau

    If Noah can still play after injury he would fit that role.

  • Jeremy Lin’s love for his teammates are truly undeniable in these clips,
    But NBA biz would separate teammates due many team demands as Kemba blogged.

    I hope Lee and Hawes might be able to play with JLin in the future

  • donsmacau

    Top 20 undrafted NBA players
    http://hoopshype.com/2016/04/30/top-20-undrafted-nba-players/#slideIdslide-0
    1. Jeremy Lin………………….11. Timofey Mozgov
    2. Kent Bazemore ………… …12. Tyler Johnson
    3. Wesley Matthews ………… 13. Jose Manuel Calderon
    4. Mirza Teletovic ……………..14. Joe Ingles
    5. Jose Juan Barea ………… 15. Lance Thomas
    6. Robert Covington …………16. Alan Anderson
    7. Ishmael Smith ………………17. Sean Kilpatrick
    8. Aron Baynes ………………..18. Anthony Morrow
    9. Matthew Dellavedova ……19. Boban Marjanovic
    10. Langston Galloway …… .20. Seth Curry

  • Epie

    lol Big Al-ephant my favorite 😛

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Chicago Bulls is an interesting destination, but would that still happen with Rose still there?

    Some Bulls fan on their fan-site were complaining about how the Bulls could had signed Lin to be a back-up to Rose instead of having a guy like Brooks.

    At the very least, Lin would probably start quite a few games since Rose is so injury prone and his status has taken a dive in Chicago to the point that many people expect the Bulls to trade him.

    Bulls would definitely be a good destination if they trade Rose…But even if they don’t you can still have a small-ball line up of Lin/Rose/Butler.

    I think the Bulls are probably the best team for Lin if he wants a chance to make it into the playoff and Hoiberg plays a fast pace offense.

  • alain gervais

    Bulls want to make rose an off guard. Also rose talked about 12017 free agency in 2015. He might get traded.Anyways he will by gone after 1 year

  • Epie

    I’ve noticed something funny. Some news sites are using Jeremy Lin’s name in their article to click bait. This NFL article from NBC has nothing to do with Jeremy and they put his full name in the middle of article lol. I’m not even going to link it here.

  • JoeTeam

    we got time, as it’s a b-still time

  • Win

    I have said a millions time that Lin issue in Hornets is not his teammate but Clifford.

    It is ok to have different kind of teammate and yes even a player like Kemba. It is up the coach how to utilize the players.

    It is definitely ok to have a true PG like Lin and and ISO player like Kemba on the floor and we have seen many many teams does it. The ISO player doesn’t have to be PG or SG, it can be SF or even PF like Lamarcus Aldridge. It is up to the coach how to use them on the right time and how often.

    On top of it, game 6 and game 7 and almost entire season long until the big come from behind win all Spurs, Steve Clifford has been (disrespected, miss used or whatever you wanna name it) on Lin. There is no way Lin should play for the Hornets if Clifford is still the head coach of this team.

    Whoever defend Clifford then I will say this to them; NO YOU ARE WRONG!!!

    Now back to the Bulls, not sure if it is a good choice, you have a full of ego so called star Jimmy Butler in the team. This guy is full of #@&^#(*^ and I am pretty sure he doesn’t even have a big heart like Kemba whom have shown he is willing to share the spot light with Lin. I don’t like this guy from the very start and it show after he got paid by a big contract which he has been acting like a JERK!!!

  • Win

    Don’t wanna see Lin sign with Bulls at all!

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Win

    Only if Hornets fire Clifford which I am sure not going to happen now but it will happen in the very near future.

    A double standard coach can never win.

    Book it.

  • CJSHYY

    MJ likes Cliff he just got the extension. He will stay w Hornets few more years to come.

  • yes, Kemba/Batum duo resulted in jump-shooting team in Game 1-2, 7 and magnificent blowout losses.

    Still, the Hornets FO turn a blind eye on it.
    Simply amazing indeed

  • Win

    True but contract offered to the Coaches is a little different compare to he contract for players. Some contract for Coach is not a guarantee contract. And even if it is a guaranteed contract, we have seen many many coaches got fired that still have time left in their guaranteed contract.

    For example, like Brett Brown of the 76ers who still have 3 years left with the 76ers, I have a feeling he will be fire either in the middle of next season or right after next season.

    Another example is Byron Scott, he got fire even he still have time left in his contract.

  • Win

    But but but, Parsons is different, he also is a pretty boy….. WHO CAN’T PLAY.

    LOL.

  • Spot

    It’s between Nets or Sixers. Lin wants to start.

  • Win

    By the way, I saw a poster compare Lin to Naruto.

    So I wanna share my thoughts.

    I wish Lin can be like Akuma! Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill all the NBA bias Coaches and fake stars!!!!!!!!!!

  • donsmacau

    I share your view on Clifford as JLIN’s coach and understand that it may not be the most popular opinion, clearly many posters have some gratitude for Clifford.

    Clifford, on balance has been a net-negative for JLIN. Clifford has primary discretion in how JLIN was utilized, he promised JLIN that he would be Kemba’s backup – in fact JLIN spent less than 15% of his minutes as backup and real backups were Batum, BRob.

    I believe Clifford’s agenda from the very beginning was to allow Hornets stars to shine while utilizing JLIN’s wonderful skills to win un-winnable games but masquerade the wins as superstar wins.

    Additionally, just as JLIN worked hard to improve his ambidexterity & turnovers – JLIN by himself also improved his own defense not because of anything Clifford taught.

    My gratitude is more with Cho giving JLIN a chance on a non-tanking, Byron Scott-less team. But after the signing, Cho fell in line with Clifford.

  • Win

    Well, I am not sure what Clifford has promised Lin, All I saw was Clifford whether have Brain Robert to be a PG even when Kemba was not on the floor. Enough said.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Clifford is just doing what the FO wants.

  • takeme2cruz

    The point is more teams will show high interest in Lin so that’s good.

  • Yes, I don’t know if it’s Cho or Cliff but their goal is to have JLin help Kemba/Batum as the designated stars to succeed but not at the risk of minimizing Kemba/Batum as playmakers.

    Imagine their shock when Lin led the team to upset the Cavs in Kemba’s absence.
    That’s why the order is quickly restored with Lin getting 16 min in the following game so there’s no controversy if Lin should be the lead PG

    It’s pretty amazing to think that winning is not #1 priority in the NBA.
    Having the GM/coach look good with their decisions and keeping designated stars happy is important to save their jobs

    But I’m thankful that Hornets pass on Lin because they already have Kemba.
    It’s better that way. Lin and Hornets helped each other in this 2015-16 season.

  • Win

    Agreed. Possible and maybe even what MJ wants.

  • Win

    I strongly believe Lin was signed because of the 2 preseason game in China.

    NBA = business…..

    Therefore, no gratitude from me to Cho, Clifford, Hornets or even MJ.

  • alain gervais

    Every team has its issue. Lin needs to start and minutes. Everything else don’t matter.

  • Win

    Agreed. But do you think if Lin out shined JB and JB will just sit there and play team ball with Lin???

    It is gonna end up like a bad situation in the Rockets.

    I believe JB is a mini Kobe and is not as famous.

  • alain gervais

    Bulter was a role player for 4-5 year on the bulls. I don’t think he cares mostly because he will get his shots. Will be treated as the star. Lin just need his 10-13 shots and 30 minutes.

  • Win

    Bulter has been acting like a big shot, calling out coach, claimed as a team leader, etc. Do you really want Lin to play with a player like that?

    What if the front office support Bulter and down play Lin again??????

  • alain gervais

    Its kinda bad but I’m getting to a point while i was open minded when Lin said he wanted to stay in charlotte. If he does ill be quite disappointed. Its time for Lin to be steve nash. Nash started until he blew up. While lin had some opportunity. It was inconsistent

  • Win

    Guys, please remember that Lin got to played BECAUSE OF THE INJURIES OF MKG AND BATUM.

    CLIFFORD HAS STARTED PJ AND LET BRIAN ROBERT HANDLE THE PG WAS A SIGN THAT HE DOESN”T THINK HIGH ON LIN AT ALL! ON TOP OF THAT, ONCE MKG WAS OUT FOR SEASON AGAIN, THEY IMMEDITATELY SIGNED AND STARTED LEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • alain gervais

    Its a fair concern. My thing is People like winning. Lin just wins lol. Give him the minutes and 10-13 shots a game is all he needs. He cant take every shot. Id rather take the chance of Lin starting and maybe butler don’t sharee the ball the him not starting and KEmba and datum don’t sharee the ball. Starting still has more opportunity

  • alain gervais

    The more i think about it. The worse i like returning to the hornets. Lins value is high right now. Time to start

  • takeme2cruz

    Remembered and well documented.

  • PPP

    im amazed that why people worries what lin may decide. Are you gonna doubting him whenever he make a decision that’s not in your liking?

    Come on guys, in Lin we trust. Leave your worries to god, for god’s sake. lol.

  • Win

    Please tell the “PEOPLE LIKE WINNING” to Steve Clifford and the Hornets.

  • Win

    100% agreed. I wanna see Lin start as a PG so bad.

  • alain gervais

    lmao fair point. Lin will have to get the most out of the team he can get. Money is respect. Hopefully Chicago shows how much they want him

  • Linzen

    Hey guys, I have a few minutes… so kind of daydreaming here… but what do you think about JLin to NOP?
    – Jrue Holiday is injury prone & UFA next year
    – Erin Gordon & Norris Cole are UFA this summer
    – Alvin Gentry is running a fast pace offence
    – PNR with AD!!!!!!
    http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2016/05/grading_the_new_orleans_pelica_7.html

    They really NEED a JLin kind of PG. 🙂

  • Win

    Ehhh. Not worry but discussing and having fun with it.

    Of cause it is up to Lin. I believe no one here will thinks our opinions will effect Lin’s decisions. Relax….

  • alain gervais

    Remember game 5 i think. Lin had a great game. Did an interview with reporters. They ask lin a question and he answered being a back up you must score. If not you won’t play much. It shows he doesn’t like coming off the bench even when thing were going great. Lol only enough he predicted game 6 and 7

  • Win

    Yeah I remember. He said it indirectly that he actually wanted to start.

  • alain gervais

    HE will be a free agent in 2017

  • alain gervais

    yup.

  • Linzen

    Who? AD? I thought he just signed a massive extension, no?

  • PPP

    thanks but im relaxed but just can’t help myself worrying about guys worrying about lin, haha.

  • alain gervais

    jrue holliday

  • Win

    Haha. I see. Honestly, I will watch his game and his game only where ever he play with. Even if he end up in a team in China or Taiwan.

  • Win

    PNR with AD will kill for sure!

  • PPP

    thumbs up.//

  • Linzen

    Yeah, he is. The thing is that he is injury prone… and on heavy minute restriction. Toney Douglas needed to start quite a number of games this season. lol

  • alain gervais

    Id rather Lin back to hornets then that team. They would be way down the list.

  • Linzen

    If they can resign Anderson. They can PNR & PNP all the way to the Western Conference Final!!!

  • Win

    Yeah. I guess Bulls is not a bad choice if the coach and front office support Lin to be honest. Let see, only 2 more months to go.

  • I actually wasn’t surprised at all after watching the interview.

    Lin was so disappointed after the loss (and not playing much) the previous night.
    So it’s less than 24 hours so he truly felt how much he and his teammates fought.
    No doubt they were thinking they can advance to Round 2 after coming back home leading 3-2 so it made it hurt more.

    That’s why he emphasized the teamwork, camaraderie and the fight the whole team experienced together.
    He wanted to express how much his teammates meant to him.
    But it’s good that he brought up the $ amount also represents how much team invests in him as a disclaimer.

    Even Kemba was blunt in his blog to say he loves his teammates but know the biz side will make teams want to recruit them. Lin gained the most attention in the playoff series so he knew Lin is most likely gone.
    But I respect Kemba being genuine as a teammate. Yes, he won’t defer to Lin and he’s limited in playmaking but the way he told Lin to be “aggressive, aggressive, aggressive”, he really wanted Lin to help the team to win.

    I’m not worried 1 interview will erase the facts that Lin has said at least twice this season about “all NBA players want to start” and going back to the past 2 seasons. If Lin keeps bringing it up in the next few interviews to work out a deal with the Hornets then I would think Lin might have a change of mind about being ok not to start.

  • Linzen

    haha no problem… like I said it’s just me daydreaming here… 🙂

  • Win

    Yeah. I like Anderson a lot, his 3 pts game, etc. NO is a pretty good choice imo.

  • alain gervais

    HE brought up coming off the bench in game 5 stating bench players have to produce or not play. Right next to kemba. So yea i think he wants to start.

  • Win

    LOL. We are all daydreaming at this point.

    🙂

  • alain gervais

    2 months feels forever

  • I predict after Lin added #westcostbestcoast hashtag to his In-N-Out burger, Lakers and Kings will have more Lin rumors LOL

  • alain gervais

    Still the more bidder the more better lmao

  • Linzen

    Amen!!!!!!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    he was actually calling out the work ethics of the Bulls and yes, i want that in a player. he’s a true leader and 2-way player like Lin. he received a lot of unwarranted criticism for it but i commend him for speaking out. this was a time when clifford was beginning to really marginalize Lin and i had wished that Lin spoke out like Butler did

  • yes, he fully realized the leash for bench player is so short.
    You don’t produce points, you sit

    Even when you produced points efficiently in Game 7, you still sit LOL

  • grover chang

    I’m starting to think having Lin be a journeyman in the NBA maybe how God wants to use Lin. He is like a disciple conducting missionary work from team to team, city to city.

    He had to spend two years with Houston because they needed the extra help. LOL.

  • alain gervais

    lmao. Game 7 was great because i thought if they won and used lin or lost and used Lin his desire to return would be very high. Once he thinks about how game 6 and mostly 7 went he will relies they could of used him but didn’t because he isn’t trusted like that. He must be tired of digging people out of holes. Tired of doing so much and getting so little. beating the cavs only to play 15 minutes. Again he mention playing 50 minutes then 50 minutes form game to game. So he is very aware of this

  • sws94

    Why would Clifford get fired? The team hasn’t won playoff games in years and won 3 this season. The locker room is harmonious. The players are saying good things about him. The media had him as a potential COY candidate. The only reason why Blatt got fired is a star player got him fired. The situation isn’t liked that in Charlotte.

  • alain gervais

    Game 7 was great because i thought if they won and used lin or lost and used Lin his desire to return would be very high. Once he thinks about how game 6 and mostly 7 went he will relies they could of used him but didn’t because he isn’t trusted like that. He must be tired of digging people out of holes. Tired of doing so much and getting so little. beating the cavs only to play 15 minutes. Again he mention playing 50 minutes then 50 minutes form game to game. So he is very aware of this

  • Linzen

    Thanks for the reminder! 😡

  • zxcvb

    Can’t trust Gentry, who’s been a terrible head coach so far.

    Only MDA and Atkinson can be trusted. Maaaybe Joerger if those two don’t pan out, but even that’s a risk.

  • Win

    I think it was purely because he is an Asian.

  • Win

    You have a point there. I also believe what Lin really need this season is a coach and the front office who believe in him.

    It is just very hard to be an Asian in the NBA.

  • grover chang

    Well he will always be Asian. Therefore, won’t be surprised then if he never finds a team to call home. 🙁

  • Win

    We’ll see. Only time can tell.

    🙂

  • donsmacau

    Clifford would have perhaps 1-2 seasons where he will be expected to get into the playoffs, he will NOT MEET the goal of playoffs either of those years.

    At that point Cliff’s job will be under pressure. At the end of the day it is about WINs and if you go backward in this business – you lose your job.

  • Linzen

    Never really follow Gentry. Wasn’t he MDA’s assistant back in Suns? I thought his poof result is because of the numerous injuries.
    But, I agree with Win, Lin needs a coach and a FO who believe in him.

  • Win

    I am really not sure about this. I don’t think that high on Bulter. Not at all.

    P.S. Kobe was once a work ethics too.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the series reflected exactly what happened during regular season. i’m happy Lin seized the opportunity and played out of his mind when Batum went down just like during the regular season. but when Batum came back, it was pretty much guaranteed the Hornets would lose. and if they did beat the Heats, they’d get humiliated by Raptors so in a way i’m glad it ended especially with Lin being the best player in the series

  • If anyone is interested to listen to HiveTalkLive talk about exit interviews

    https://twitter.com/HiveTalkLive/status/727628891054034944

  • Summary:
    – Giving Batum max is a must to make him stay at Charlotte

  • alain gervais

    They want to the lineup the got blown out in the first 2 games and goes what happened???

  • takeme2cruz

    Thanks but no thanks.

  • takeme2cruz

    Please give him.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i can only handle In-N-Outs just once per month. they’re good but there’s something about their sauce or the oil they use that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. now, Smashburgers is Excellent!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    coachkilla!

  • alain gervais

    They are saying They cant sign Lin. They also said MArv will be gone. They may go for mario chalmers or seth curry

  • Win

    Thanks. But I kinda hate them. So bias….

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Kobe was always a ball hog. Butler was always a system / team player. you want great work ethics and leadership on a team player like Butler / Lin. trust me on this

  • takeme2cruz

    Their job is to sway public opinion for the organization before actual happening.

  • sws94

    Nobody knows.

  • alain gervais

    They have a ton of free agents. They simply cant keep all of them. They said maybe lin for less then 10 million but they cant afford him

  • heart

    I think David Walker is the one who’s saying it may be Lin’s last big pay day? Is that right? Anyone?

  • alain gervais

    Hornets will get gutted this year

  • sws94

    Lin may be the 2nd most desirable. We just have to see how it pans out.

  • HiveTalkLive guys are quite fair.
    They’re different than some AtTheHive writers

    Keep refreshing to see some good comments that I summarized

  • Win

    🙂

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    games 1&2 was just like game 6&7. actually game 7 was just like game 1 except Batum wasn’t as lucky in game 7

  • takeme2cruz

    Is Lin the same guy gave them their first playoff win since 2002 and 3 straght?

  • alain gervais

    They mentioned that but said Its other teams will offer him more

  • Win

    Oic, I thought they are the same as AeTheHive.

    Tks!

  • sws94

    They may. But how will Lin respond? That’s what we don’t know. One just said Lin is a high priority.

  • alain gervais

    They will give datum max

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m completely done with all things hornets and hives except honeybees 😀

  • takeme2cruz

    pls, I hope so.

  • Win

    Problem is Lin is not a priority for Clifford at all.

  • TTNN

    Seth Curry is a good choice.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN as an unrestricted free agent without bird rights would directly impact the salary cap, thus CHA must leave JLIN as last priority – by then JLIN has already finalized his new team deal.

  • alain gervais

    They are saying Lin is a high priority but he is just too expensive.

  • sws94

    He may take less. Batum wants many of the key guys back. At least, that’s what he’s saying now. I think it all boils down is if in a few more weeks they still say they want most back and guys find ways business-wise to try to make it happen, maybe at least Lin and Marv will come back. And it also depends on a big they want.

  • TTNN

    what’s wrong with atthehive?

  • donsmacau

    Seth Curry is Brian Roberts with the same height and same shot – perhaps Curry has a better brain.

  • sws94

    I haven’t seen him play much.

  • sws94

    Don’t agree. I wouldn’t go by the last game.

  • donsmacau

    Ask the atthehive posters what is wrong with a JLIN fan site and then you have the answer to your question, “what’s wrong with atthehive?”

  • sws94

    We have no idea how expensive he is. That’s to be seen.

  • alain gervais

    They also mention jorden said he would pay luxury tax if we are a top 4 team. Which we was this year. top 10 both offense and defense

  • sws94

    I don’t think so. I think there may be some new additions, but there is a big push for continuity.

  • takeme2cruz

    Why not the most important game of the season?

  • alain gervais

    ITs looking like Hornets may need to pay the luxury tax.

  • ok, here is the summary. Very fair comments on Lin’s projected $10M salary + huge playoff performance.
    I always like HiveTalkLive guys; passionate but fair BB junkies

    Summary
    – Giving Batum max is a must to make him stay at Charlotte
    – JLin has interest but money is an issue. He has put himself in $10M range so it’s hard to bring him back. If Lin is under $10M, it’s okay to pursue him
    – Lee is hard to retain because he also wants to start
    – Lin is #2 priority after Batum because Kemba/Lin impact was huge. Lin is super valuable especially in the playoff

  • Win

    Again, I wish a 5 years plus / MAX Contract.

    Hehehe.

  • donsmacau

    For sure is the case, I expect Marv and JLIN gone. As an experiment go and review the impact Marvin had on the starters and JLIN had on the benchforce and that will give an idea of how bad Hornets get gutted next season without both.

  • Win

    I went by the whole season.

  • sws94

    I have no idea what was going on with Cliff in that game but I think Lin is a priority for the Hornets. He brings a lot of buzz to that team as well as part of a lot of huge wins. I think we should actually hear from Cliff, Jordan and Cho before assuming anything about how they really feel about him going forward with their team.

  • Win

    Doesn’t matter, No trust, no respect = No Clifford = No Hornets.

    Plain and simple.

  • TTNN

    Batum never said he will take less. Also he said depends on who will be back. Not he asked for everyone to come back.

  • occupatio

    good pts

  • takeme2cruz

    When Lin is a starting pg with another team, he will have a much easier time to guard smaller pg around the league.

  • TTNN

    that’s not true. You have a week to discuss contract before anybody signing.

  • donsmacau

    Two most important games of the season Game 6 & 7 both CLOSEOUT games.
    JLIN had 5 fouls not 6 fouls.

  • donsmacau

    After Hornets come to agreement with all the other players they wish to sign, it is unclear that they will have anything left beyond a MLE for JLIN.

  • sws94

    He played big minutes in many of the biggest games this season. And Lin played big minutes in some of the biggest games in the season and playoffs throughout the season. Lin was one of the big players on the team, without a doubt the most important player off of the bench and that’s how Cliff used him.

  • Win

    Is getting hot in herre~~~~~

    And I like it!

    😛

  • takeme2cruz

    That would be bored to death this off season. Speculation the future based on last season is fun thing to do here too.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Butler and Lin backcourt will shut everyone down. and offensively, Lin will get to handle the ball 80% of the time since Butler has no intention of handling the ball.. he’s excellent off the ball

  • donsmacau

    Look forward to JLIN leading his team into CHA and JLIN on Kemba just like he did in practice all season.

  • sws94

    As long as we realize we know nothing and things will happen in ways that we probably couldn’t even think of.

  • Linzen

    Smaller PG usually presents a different problem for Lin… speed. But with good team defence, they should be easily contained.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes game 6 Lin deserved to close game. Game 7 Lin deserved to play before starters gave the lead to 20 points.

  • sws94

    There’s trust, respect, it’s just for some weird reason Cliff thinks Batum is much more than he is. Batum is OK, but Cliff doesn’t see that he’s not the gamer Lin and I think Kemba are.

  • donsmacau

    We have theories this season some are correct and some from some posters are very very wrong. but it is what is required – speculate on a fan site.

  • TTNN

    so if they want to sign Lin, they will need to do that before other player signed.

  • Win

    Do we really have to debate about this? It is so obvious that Clifford doesn’t think high on Lin.

    It almost like sayin Trump is not a racist. Lol.

  • TTNN

    I thought he shoots better

  • donsmacau

    they won’t

  • sws94

    6 is debatable. That was Lin’s only substandard game and he was not in a good groove although I may have brought him in anyway to close the game. 7 yes. But 7 was a fiasco in the 2nd half. Cliff turned in a dreadful coaching performance that game.

  • takeme2cruz

    Speculation is what we don’t know for sure. And there’s no limit of what anyone can or can’t think of.

  • donsmacau

    Brian Roberts upped his shooting this CHA season, not sure what happened after trade.

  • sws94

    I don’t agree with that. But we don’t have to debate. Cliff doesn’t trust Lamb, Daniels, Tyler, those guys he doesn’t trust IMO, hence, he doesn’t play them. Cliff playing Lin critical junctures in most games says he trusts him IMO (even if it wasn’t every game).

  • sws94

    But they can’t come back if he takes max. So, we’ll see.

  • Findersam

    One thing that concerns me is that they will play two preseason games against the Rockets in China- October 9th and 12th. If they brought JLin in, hopefully it wouldn’t be just for marketing. (I think I’m having trust issues with the NBA. Lol)

  • TTNN

    I didn’t say they will.

  • takeme2cruz

    Debatable is when Batum was 100% healthy and he was the reason they won 3 straight games.

  • TTNN

    oh, you are so wrong. Batum taking max has nothing to do with other FA signing. He took less, and you still can not use those money on other FA.

  • Win

    I am gonna bet you. If Lin sign with the Hornets next season, I will then donate $50.00 to JLin Portal or JLIN Foundation.

    On the other hand, if Lin sign with another team, then you will have to donate $10.00

    Just a friendly bet. You down?

  • lleepar

    JLin’s former teams keep imploding …
    https://twitter.com/sportingnews/status/727578504150179842

  • sws94

    psalm, I truly believe if Lin still wants to be a Hornet when the time comes, and not swayed by any other offer or better position he can get than on the Hornets, he’ll sign for less than $10 million, maybe short term. I think the key is how he feels in time. He’s too soon after the season in the exit interview to really know what he’ll do. When he has some distance from it how he’ll feel then will determine what he does for next season.

    I don’t agree about Lee and think Marvin may be 2nd or 3rd priority (those 2 positions are tough between Lin and Marv). MKG puts Lee in the 2nd unit.

  • donsmacau

    Batum in 4 games = all LOSSes
    Batum out 3 games = all WINs

    Wish that were just the exception but another top 5 regular sesaon win Batum out Raptors = Win

  • sws94

    If MJ wants to do it, he’ll go ahead and do it.

  • sws94

    No surprise. Harden needs to get his act together.

  • grover chang

    Fair given Lins age. Give him a contract during his prime. Why would people pay him more after his prime.

  • sws94

    They get screens he’ll have to keep bumping in to. And defenses will put big guys on Lin. At least the good ones will.

  • donsmacau

    Oh how wrong and desperate this is – laughable.

  • sws94

    Stay respectful for once in your life.

  • sws94

    Why not?

  • Linzen

    If JLin thinks 1 second he will come back to Hornet, I hope mama Lin will smack some sense into him. He needs to start! hahahaha

  • sws94

    No. I’m going over how I think Lin feels now vs. what could happen. Since none of us got that he’d go to Charlotte last season, none of us knows a thing. We are just stating what we’d like more than anything else. I’m prepared for him to go to Charlotte and if he doesn’t, I truly hope where he goes works out for him and he finds the joy in playing again he found with Charlotte.

  • donsmacau

    I called your words desperate, wrong and laughable… while today on a different forum you called ME “disgusting” based on nothing that I had written which were all topical, respectful and concise not even close to anything which transgressed any rules.

    If you wish I can post the entire thread for you to confirm what you typed?

  • sws94

    Don’t agree. He’ll go where he goes and I accept it and I don’t know how Mama Lin feels, but I think if she knows in her heart he’s found happiness in Charlotte, she’ll be happy he’s going back.

  • Linzen

    True. He can then swing the ball to the mismatch person… You know, the one who is guarded by the small guy. Or, JLin can post these PG up all day long!

  • sws94

    Lin doesn’t post much. Maybe he’ll do more next season.

  • Win

    I know you want Lin to resign with Hornets. I kinda want to see that too. However, Clifford think high on Batum, Lee, Kemba and during the middle of the season even PJ and Brain Robert.

    You heard what Clifford said in the interviews, you saw what he did during games. I have been living in this world long enough to tell you, Clifford DOESN’T THINK LIN IS DA MAN.

    Maybe he is right or maybe not. But as a Lin fans, heck no I don’t wanna see Lin play for Clifford ever again.

  • sws94

    No argument from me there.

  • sws94

    No, it’s not that. But I’m really feeling the point Lin is making about being tired of moving from one city to the next, one team to the next. And it is a universal thing that when we find co-workers, a management team that we enjoy working with, and enjoy our workplace, that can mean a lot more than getting our “dream jobs” and dealing with terrible co-workers and such that make going to work miserable. That’s a basic thing I get that Lin is expressing.

    This isn’t even that much about basketball on that level.

    OTOH, I want to see Lin on the court at least 28 minutes a night and I’m not in love with the basketball situation in Charlotte that much. It’s just, you just don’t know what there is elsewhere and I totally don’t expect ANYWHERE to be ideal on NBA teams. But if it were to satisfy Lin, that’s what is most important.

  • takeme2cruz

    If Lin takes less money and nonstarter position to come back to Charlotte to be marginalized by Clifford again, his agents, psalm and I will personally fly to his mother house demanding him to surrender his Harvard degree.

  • Win

    Kinda agreed.

    I have also said it yesterday. It is all about how Lin value things.

    If he value the friendship, happiness, etc over his dream, starting position, etc; then he will sign with the Hornets.

    If he is still chasing his dream and the starting PG position, then he will sign else where.

    Really no body knows at this point. So let us all just enjoy it. Part of the NBA.

    🙂

  • PETE B

    Ready for July know what I mean

  • sws94

    I think Lin wants to go into the playoffs as deep as possible. He’s started. I think we forget that. And having the experience of starting and then being replaced by a journeyman must have a big impact on him.

    After that, he goes into the playoffs and makes noise for himself in helping a team he has a bond with. Will he want to do that again with same team or another team? I don’t know. I think right now Lin is back home and trying to get back to some post playoff time to himself before tackling FA again. And I think he may even be tired of doing that.

  • Briiick

    Another 6th man is stat-padded as a star and doing his things to a team.

  • Linzen

    But, mama Lin is tiger mom… kidding.
    Truth is I trust that Lin’s family know all about his dream & goals, and how he feels about playing in Hornets (and all previous teams).
    You can be right that they are happy as long as Lin is happy. But family should also provide guidance at the right time. I am sure they know when to push their son to new height in his career.
    One thing I totally agree with you is that wherever he goes, I would accept it.

  • sws94

    Does Lin think this?

  • sws94

    I’m fine with it because I think Lin needs some time to just relax and do silly family stuff, hang with friends, play Dota, etc. Then it’s FA time again and I don’t know if he enjoys that process or not.

  • Steppen03

    I have respects for you SWS94 as to all other posters here. We’re here because we have One Same belief: JL7 is a very good NBA player and likeable person. If I’m living in Charlotte or close by I probably would want JL7 to stay as Hornets too … But I do care more about his career than anything else… #1) He needs to be a starter – That’s what he wants and deservedly so. #2) He want to be an All-Stars & go to the distance – He’s a great competitor and deservedly so. With those info – The Hornets can’t offer him those. The Hornets can still be a good team without JL7. Any other team with the addition of JL7 will “automatically” be on a good team – JL7 is a great leader. He can be an All-Stars. He can be a superstar. He just need his own team to prove it. 25pt & 8ast is reachable.

  • LinMad

    This is why having a star like Jeremy Lin is perfect for a team. Lin cares about making plays for others and can get everyone on board.

  • sws94

    I responded to Win. I heard Lin say things that really has more to do with human factors opposed to basketball. How much it’ll hold up to, I don’t know. But if you look down on my views of Charlotte for Lin, it’s more to do with Lin’s spirit and soul vs. basketball reasons.

    I don’t really agree Lin has to be a star or superstar. What I think he is is a winner, a high impact player, an exciting guy to watch, a team player, and a great ambassador for all of the work he does including in the NBA. A star player has a mentality I think may be different than Lin’s. I’m not sure he wants that star player role. I think he shied away from it during LInsanity, really didn’t like all the attention he got, and just wants to go out there and help his team win in whatever capacity he can on a team that he feels good about.

  • heart

    Remember this quote when someone harp on Lin why he’s not shooting or taking more shots, teams have designated offensive options. Paraphrased former Rockets Assistant Coach, Kevin Sampson– Offense is not a democratic option!

    “Monday through Wednesday, the team goes through their offensive plays. First option, second option … when we had the Twin Towers, here’s what we’re going to do,” Reid said. “But come game night (they) have one guy holding the ball and the others are like, ‘Where are we going to have dinner at tonight?’” http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/ex-rocket-bashes-james-harden-only-cares-about-himself/1078kcxuzgu531fp27iw29t2gi

  • sws94

    That’s fair. I think Lin gets opportunities. It keeps happening and for a reason. He has to follow the guidance that is right for him, and it isn’t human guidance.

  • cdblue10

    Lin is locked for PG position next year and for those who doubt it will just going to get disappointed.

  • I found HTL guys to be very reasonable.
    Again, fans would make conjecture and speculate based on the latest news or recent playoff performance.

    While it’s definitely up to JLin, it’s definitely a difficult choice to turn down starting offers with $12M+ salary. They also had a good point that Lee would want to start.
    IMO if Nic resigns, Lin will be gone since there’s not enough playmaking there.
    Lin might stay to start next to Kemba but again MDA and Atkinson might offer a better system to suit Lin’s strength. That’s a tough choice for Lin to stay knowing he has repeatedly stated he wants to start

    I understand your preference for JLin to stay as a Hornet but there’s greater likelihood JLin will take the best starting PG for job stability and bigger role/min that Lin and all NBA players desire.
    Have you seen the video and links?
    http://www.jlinportal.com/special-jeremy-lin-news-links/

    They brought up all good arguments that this could be the last big offer for Lin.
    It wouldn’t be a good career choice to stay as a backup PG with limited min even with $8-9M/year

  • Win

    As I have mentioned before, I agreed with most of you comments.

    But only except the comments on Clifford.

    Keep scratching Cliff, keep on scratching. LOL.

  • takeme2cruz
  • sws94

    I don’t think people really understand my posts about Lin with the Hornets. It’s not the Hornets per se. I don’t like a lot of basketball things they do but I do like they went 7 games in the playoffs. I don’t think Batum is as good as Cliff thinks he is. Kemba will always be ball-dominant and Lin may not even close as much as I’d like him to on the Hornets. It’s really the sense of being happy doing your work. Truly happy. Lin wasn’t happy in his previous stints. And he’s stressed that very point so much this season that I think it is something very fundamental and maybe an utmost priority to him. And we can think of all of the basketball reasons that Lin could accomplish more, but the real essence is does Lin want happiness in contributing to the grind of a season in a pleasant situation or does he want to risk that for a expanding role that could include headaches? That’s TBD. By Lin and his team.

    I just want to make it clear, while I like Marvin especially and some of the Hornets, the basketball they play doesn’t suit some of Lin’s strengths nor does he facilitate enough for my liking. It’s the other stuff that I’m hearing from Lin I’m weighing and I’m not sure how much of that will influence him in time to resign with Hornets or not. Basketball-wise, I’d love Lin to have more PnRs, more facilitation whether starting or 6th man (no backup PG role is acceptable IMO) the kind of fun stuff we saw with Ed Davis and him, and Tyson Chandler ,and his football passes and fast break stuff and lobs. I miss seeing that in Charlotte.

  • I think he moved up in Top FA PG list in 2016?
    Wasn’t he below Deron before at #4?

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes he was but not anymore.

  • Pete Roces

    Lin will leave Hornets if he can’t start as PG, so any chance of him staying, none, zero, nada, since Clifford the stupid baldie will not start him as a PG, and let KW be the SG. There is nothing to discuss, no way Lin will stay unless all other teams reject him, then he may consider.

  • cdblue10

    He might be #1 with the teams that need him

  • Pete Roces

    Some ppl here just want Lin to be a backup forever. smh…a true Lin fan will never insist that, Lin is one of the top PGs of NBA if only NBA is not racist and want to recognize him. Sad but true, only Atkinson, MDA will bring us closer to LInsanity again, no other way around.

  • Steppen03

    Let’s just say CCliff likes and trusted Lin so much that he truly, secretly, want Lin to succeed by letting him go to be a leader on another team. Nay, tough love… Not holding him back

  • takeme2cruz

    Despite being 3rd but he’s the hottest pg available one because of his recent success. Conley is injured and old, Rondo is too locker room cancerous.

  • cdblue10

    As I can see,some posters were already integrated themselves as part of Hornets community and theirs nothing wrong with that but they need to set themselves aside since they will be considered as a 2nd hand poster here.Hornets fans ruminate Lin fans as a 2nd citizen on their site and should be treated them accordingly w/ same repercussion.

  • Win

    Me today. 🙂

  • Epie

    Say something bad about Kemba, you get perma-banned. Talk about Lin, you get yelled “this is Hornets forum”, talk about Lin one more time, you get banned. I got banned for talking about Kemba when he was having a bad day. All I said was, please sit Kemba. I got perma-banned. Basically, their belief is Lin is an inconsistent bench player and Hornets are where it is because of Kemba.

  • I think we all want JLin to be happy and find joy in his career.
    He found some of that in Charlotte in having great chemistry with teammates but he was also not happy with his backup role & limited min. We also didn’t heart “coach really believed in me and really know how he used me” which was the biggest part of what attracted him to come to the Hornets.

    Saying “coach did what he said/promised” (paraphrasing) really fell short of happiness that he expressed in July 2015 interview.

    My personal take is he didn’t blame Cliff because he knew Cho or other FO don’t want him to outshine Kemba/Batum or even Frank in Game 7. But he was disappointed.

    That’s why I inclined to think Lin knew he has to find happiness in another place although he liked his teammates. I can’t imagine he’s happy and content not playing a big part in Game 7 after being the hero in Game 3-5. When that happened, I think that’s the deal-breaker.

    But we’ll have fun analyzing how things transpire in the next 2 months 🙂

  • That’s great!

    It’s a testament how JLin’s heroic playoff performance really increases his FA value.

  • cdblue10

    Exactly.

  • freemind

    ‘Harden set an NBA record for most turnovers in a single season with 370 (4.6 per game).’ LOL no scrap goat this time

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it benefited Kemba greatly which is why some of his fans want Lin to back him up forever

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    mmmhhhhhhhhh So, Whiteside is out of season???!!!!!!!
    https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/727654412748005376

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Nop. He is “okay.” Post this info doesn’t mean I like Whiteside at all.
    https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/727655229412519936

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    c’mon. Lin ain’t stupid continue to be misused and abused by clifford. this is his chance to escape this nightmare

  • freemind

    Lin enjoys playing with the team, the team is why and the only reason why he would consider playing with Hornets. If the original team is not together and he doesn’t get to start. Then why does he need to give discount or put further consideration.

  • Win

    Damn you Whiteside, why can you hurt yourself a little bit earliler like game 1 of the Hornets / Heat Series??? SMH.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • heart
  • james brown

    this is the truth..it may disregard reason with others opinion, but this may be the last nail in the coffin..
    “I can’t imagine he’s happy and content not playing a big part in Game 7
    after being the hero in Game 3-5. When that happened, I think that’s the
    deal-breaker.”.

    being with friend you like doesn’t mean you’ll stay if you have other opportunity that can also be important to you..jlin know ithis is business, though he hates going from one team to another, finding your true home is the priority. forcing it will result in further turmoil. the windows of opportunity is now a factor on his decisions further.

  • Win

    As I have mentioned before, if we can invent a hardwood floor that can kinda absorb the water like 50%, we will be very very rich.

  • takeme2cruz

    Shame of you Clifford and Batum. This should be you vs the Raptors now.

  • Win

    Corner Stone! Corner Stone yo!!!

  • I think the majority of Lin fans know JLin would be happiest playing his God-given talent as a PG, smiling like in NY 2012 under a coach who truly believes in his ability and allows him to make many mistakes.

    Some Lin fans see how happy Lin is with his teammates in the Hornets and listen to how much much Lin hates moving around so they thought it’s better for Lin to stay. Teammates are important for happiness but knowing JLin’s goals to be a starter and All-Star, I think roles & minutes have higher priority over good teammates.

    I would hope we extend patience to some Lin fans who have differing opinions.
    In July, Lin and his team would definitely make the best choice for his career.

  • Rick Johnson

    Rondo such a limited player. Don’t think he should be #2. I’m sure he isn’t #2 on Dallas’s list.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    as expected, Dragic goes back to poor shooting (currently 0-5) against an average defender

  • Win

    Tragic Goran~~~

  • Yes, JLin’s career goals haven’t changed from
    1. Starter
    2. All-Star
    3. Championships
    so it’s easy to understand that starter and minutes are very important priorities, more than best friends and teammates since players have no control how the team will keep or let go of players

  • takeme2cruz

    Not even top 10 in Dallas.

  • takeme2cruz

    Whiteside is back.

  • james brown

    they can’t discuss anything with jlin unless they’re finished with their priority…remember the deandre jordan’s case and jlin on mavs?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i guess Tragic is Slovenian for garden lizard

  • ok, let’s not wish injury to any players 🙂

    It’s a no-no since we don’t want people to wish the same for JLin

  • james brown

    they will not because they place jeremy at the last of their priority, otherwise they will announce to the wlo nba they will retain jlin by hook or by crook..that will discourage others unless another morey comes in!

  • Win

    Wait wait wait, but he can dish out assist like crazy, it is not his fault that he can’t shoot 3, can’t shoot FT, can’t shoot mid range and a super hothead…

    🙂

  • vincent

    Lin’s coach doc needs to slap some sense into Lin if Lin wants to go back to Charlotte. Doc stated himself he didn’t like Lin’s situation in Charlotte

  • james brown

    precisely!!!

  • takeme2cruz

    Tom Thibodeau is in charge of the Wolves, a longer shot but what chance would you see an offer from them too?

  • Win

    Only if they trade Rubio. Another overrated PG.

  • takeme2cruz

    so overrated.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    gotta give Doc Scheppler credit. he was absolutely correct about Lin’s shooting and situation in Charlotte. Lin would be smart to listen to Doc Scheppler

  • Rick Johnson

    Hope he gets his shooting all straightened out and comes out on fire next season.

  • cdblue10

    Wolves would be a very very good team in the next 2 years and that will speed up next season if they will get Lin and play him w/ no politics.I don’t think Thibs cater to superstar players ,I think he’s a coach that only concern about a winning environment and if they consider Lin to be their starting PG,as a fan, I would be glad to watch him in Timberwolves next season.

  • takeme2cruz

    I wouldn’t mind either.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i like Thib because he’s a great defensive coach unlike those other coaches who are only “defensive coaches” by name like mchale, byron, woodson, and clifford. but, i don’t really think Lin’s game fit Thib’s slow half court offensive scheme

  • cdblue10

    Bulls actually played high octane basketball when DRose was still healthy

  • Steppen03

    Without Whiteside the Heat will lose to Raptors. I favor Heat with Whiteside 4-2 but now… Yikes. People have to calm down… JL7 will not be in Hornets uni next season. One smart team will offer JL7 max contract – $18M per.

  • james brown

    well a little team karma for being a whiner rathen than just playing ball!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it seemed fast only because Rose scored a lot. Rose was a dynamic scorer when healthy but he didn’t really involved his teammates much. it wasn’t really a fast pace offense per se

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Curse of the Playoff. Whiteside may be out for the series.

  • alain gervais

    He came back in. He is ok

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Thank God!

  • Steppen03

    Let’s not go there about CCliff. We should give him respects. It’s a team sport. They made it like I predicted it. Now, CCliff may be smarter than you know – maybe he want JL7 to find success – and he well knows that’s not gonna happen if playing behind KW & NB. So, I have to give CCliff credit for sitting JL7 in G6 & 7 to showcase Lin’s true value (to other teams) – Lin knows how to win as validated in G3-5. So, thank you, CCliff & Hornets.

  • Win

    Good. 🙂

    So Heat have no excuse when they lose to the Raps.

  • Win

    Ok. Sorry.

  • cdblue10

    I agree with DRose not being a team oriented player but IMO Thibs is a cerebral coach and he can adjust to his players,they just can’t advance during his tenure in Bulls because Heat was just a better team compare against them

  • james brown

    think jlin should be the top pg this FA… conley can’t raise the game of memphies, but for that team, he’s priority, so his fa is just for pay raise…he’s just like kw with lots of PT and high usage….as for rondo, jlin is a better player offensively and defensively now…rondo is no longer the present.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    respect is earned. clifford hasn’t earn any of my respect. in fact, he’s lost a lot of Lin fan’s respect

  • donsmacau

    Clifford is a below average to terrible coach, and if you doubt… then let us meet again at this time next season after the departure of JLIN and Marvin allow Clifford to show his true coaching ability.

    Hornets will miss playoffs next season and probably for the next several.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no need to revisit in the future. the regular season and playoffs already proved it over and over again

  • Win

    Ehhh. I think Steppen03 is just being sarcastic.

  • Steppen03

    JL7 will find good teammates wherever he goes. His happiness and joy for teamball is infectious. I don’t worry about teammates – it’s the coach and culture, org. and Max contract. I want him to be valued as a top PG, as a leader otherwise that team will have no chance for true contention.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    that’s how i read it, too. thanks to clifford for sitting Lin in game 6 & 7.. because that showed how bad the team is without Lin. i think

  • alain gervais

    i usually like what you say but Less he n 10 million short time is the opposite of what lin said. He want to fin a long term home. Where ever he signs it will be long term. under 10 million is too long

  • alain gervais

    Lin want to be a star no question.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    there’s no doubt that Thibs is excellent coach. i don’t mind Lin playing for him so i wouldn’t cross him off the list but imo there are a few other coaches/teams i have ahead of him in terms of offensive style and personnel

  • Steppen03

    Yes, that’s fine. But… This is his dream …to be in the NBA …to be a starter …to help his team achieve goals. And he can’t do those if he’s Not a starter, Not an All-Stars. He IS an All-Star caliber player and he Deserves a chance to run his own team and help them achieve goals. Playing as a Ginobili type of role is not going to help his career. Maybe he can do that few years from now but Now it’s the time to be the 1st option. Because he can.

  • cdblue10

    How about Lin for Toronto?Fans love him at Air Canada

  • Steppen03

    Win or lose, it’s a team sport and quality players. If Hornets don’t make it next season, all I can say is: Well, they don’t have JL7. But not coaching…

  • Rick Johnson