Jeremy Lin Samurai Bun Hairstyle, Injury Concern and All-Star Voting

Jeremy Lin sportednew Samurai-Bun hairstyle (credit to @wukong) & contributed with 5pts/2asts in a Hornets blowout against an outmatched Heat team.

He started well with 2-2 shooting then missed 2 3-point shots (one which DWade’s foul was not called by the referee). But he curiously missed 2 FTs, upon which he rested on the bench. Is there an injury concern? Nathan Gottlieb made a good observation in that same video above that JLin grimaced when doing ball-handling drill, which is not normal. Along with an acupuncturist from Taiwan (Mr. Lo) who was flown from Taiwan, I’d say we have a valid concern that his back or something else has been  bothering JLin and affected his shooting performance. https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674986644492173312

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  • blubell

    1st 🙂

  • Williams on Lin (BFF?)
    – He’s a really cool dude, and on-and-off the court he’s an incredibly smart guy, too.
    – he’s a really cool guy. But, yeah, when there’s a question in the room everybody’s cutting eyes at Jeremy.
    -Williams confirms Jeremy Lin’s earlier claim that guys on the team are always asking him questions, like what time zone they’re in.
    -Williams on Lin hair: I told him I like the mohawk, but it’s getting long for him so it’s hard to keep it up there.
    -Williams says he’ll monitor Jeremy Lin’s playing style with the new haircut; he’s gotta keep playing well.

    https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/675006908361809920

    https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/675007009062801408

  • CJSHYY

    MW will be FA next summer?

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • sws94

    Thanks.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Worst hairstyle…LOL!

  • real-dsb

    Yet another prediction that Lin fans here have accurately predicted. Since summer, many people here predicted the eventual hairstyle that Lin was alluding would be the undercut. I had hoped that it would not be the undercut + top knot/man bun, but it is what it is. =p

  • real-dsb

    only 39 days left! =) http://vote.nba.com/

  • linfan

    I don’t totally agree. The Mohawk was a mess, but, like this fledgling bun, that was just a transition on the way to some ultimate, envisioned hairstyle. Exactly what that will be we don’t know yet, but we think JLin has something definite in mind, but needs longer hair to implement. The hair style will unfold as the season unfolds, and, I hope, it will be complete before the season ends. I thought this one looked better than the Mohawk, which was very ragged in recent days.

  • real-dsb

    I’m going to make a bold prediction and predict that Steph Curry will be the league’s top vote getter. You heard it here first LOL

  • linfan

    I’m thinking undercut plus rope down the back. That could be disastrous because opposing players could grab the rope as Lin flashes on by them!

  • blubell

    I heard it in my head first 😛

  • Briiick

    Let’s vote for Lin, fellow Lin fans !
    I know his team is marginalizing his role and stats relative to some other chosen players, but we Lin fans have seen this for too many seasons to fall for the con.
    Vote for the difference maker, not the stat padder !

  • blubell

    Jeffries has a rival… who will be Jeremy’s ultimate NBA Big Bro? lol

  • sws94

    Hair is much more organized and clean now, showing a new place and force for Lin. He does seem a little injured, may affect his shot and explosiveness. I can’t predict these games, the Grindhouse style isn’t working so well for Memphis so maybe Charlotte does well. One of these games, it won’t be Batum leading but someone else. Not sure who but could be Lin in one of them.

  • sws94

    Jeffries is the original. MW is just subbing for now, lol.

  • blubell

    True. Nothing can replace Linsanity cast 🙂

  • 1mtoldman

    yes

  • 1mtoldman

    actually kobe could be the top vote getter (dont be surprised) they’ve moved him to front court position on the ballot so doesn’t have to compete with curry/harden/westbrook/etc.

    and his farewell tour is boosting ticket prices thru the roof. (actually sporting news already a couple weeks ago headlined: “who joins kobe on western all stars?”)

  • 1mtoldman

    you see typical nba players are such morons they dont know the time of day; they have to ask a “haw-vawd” grad.

  • CJSHYY

    Kobe sure will be in no matter how he plays now bc it’s his last time in ASG. Plus he & Lakers do have lots of fans.

  • pandaboy99

    How do people know lin flew his acupucturist over?

  • LinMad

    I just voted for Lin, Walker and Zeller and I got lazy so I just submitted those 3

  • Spot

    Uh uh, look what I found about Jerry Colangelo (from Wikipedia):

    Colangelo is a Christian. Colangelo has spoken about his faith saying, “The first priority in life is to have that relationship with Jesus Christ. So your faith is number one. … God [has] a plan for my life. You know, the way I’ve tried to live my life is I have this platform, it was given to me by the Lord. And He’s blessed me with a lot of things. And someday I’m going to be held accountable with what I did with those things.”

    Very similar to someone we know well. Please God, please…

  • LinMad

    cause they have pics of him and his acupucturist in America?

  • Spot

    Lin Thomas Williams Lee Kaminsky

  • Rick Johnson

    Joy Jeng
    ‏@Loveforlife0323
    friia_strength (IG): @JLin7 killing the hex bar & jeremylamb1 going hard on the bench! #grindneverstops #hardwork

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/675060510874861568

  • kjch

    Is joy friends with jlin? How does she get insider photos lol

  • CJSHYY

    From friia_strength (IG)

  • kjch

    Ohhh ok that explains it. Thx

  • Joe what do you know

    I’m sure he’s aiming for this hairstyle…
    999pt/999ast….

  • David Kim

    i really want him to bring Lin and MDA!!!!!

  • JoeTeam

    He cannot grow that stach and beard, lol.

  • wu kong

    Fob. Fresh off the boat. Rather racist IMHO

  • I can’t say it any better.
    NBA All-Star is designed to generate excitement over your favorite players.
    They want fans to debate who deserve it and who don’t it.

    Many Lin fans would not vote for him for the All-Star ballots but I will because I want to support him.
    I asked myself a question: “If I were JLin, would I appreciate my fans voting for me?” I think the answer is yes.

    He might not make it even as a backup All-Star but it will tell people that JLin is still hugely popular.
    It’s an entertainment biz after all.

    https://twitter.com/AmFinallyHere/status/675096326560980992

  • heart

    Are you also David K. poster on the other site?

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Lin don’t have good stats but we as fans should try our best to support him on vote. I will vote for him everyday. Hope fans on this side can also support him.

  • Dorothy

    Definitely, I have no doubt Lin wants us to vote for him. Who would not?

  • jakey

    Hmm is that going to help his back? Lamb with one shoe on haha

  • CJSHYY

    Of course.

  • Dorothy

    Just voted for Lin and Marvin Williams (since he is really nice to Lin)
    Do you know how to vote via FB and text? Could not find it this year.

  • David Kim

    No

  • Briiick

    And I don’t think a lot of stat padders deserve it either, no matter how much their organizations try to hype them.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I voted for MW too. He’s the nice to Lin.

  • 1mtoldman

    there’s an idea lets have a all star game based who are the nice people.

  • CJSHYY

    He played well & I like him. ASG it’s about who you want to see!

  • heart

    For text: “Text the player’s last name to 6-9-6-2-2 (“MYNBA”).” According to this link (scroll down for other ways):

    http://www.nba.com/2015/news/12/10/2016-all-star-ballot-official-release/

  • heart

    Thanks. So many similar names, just wonder.

  • 1mtoldman

    hmm ok who do i want to see?:

    (let me see)

    lin, love, porzingod, isaiah thomas, paul george

    dirk, curry, derrick favors, rudy gobert, will barton (best player no one every heard of)

  • blubell

    Ask your family and friends to vote for Jeremy. If they don’t do it willingly, steal their phone 😛

  • heart

    I have asked them to vote for Lin. My family is 100% pro-Lin.

  • Dorothy

    Will do LOL

  • blubell

    You have an awesome family 🙂

  • heart

    Yep. Thank God.

  • rookie75094

    Voted…here is nba performance prediction in the altar game…NBA.COM/STATS
    NBA All-Star Game 2016 Predictor

    Your 2016 NBA All-Star Voting Selections
    Projected NBA All-Star Game 2016 stats for your selection
    WEST
    EAST

    LAMB , JEREMY
    EAST / CHA / GUARD
    PTS REB AST STL
    0 4 0 0

    JEFFERSON , AL
    EAST / CHA / FRONTCOURT
    PTS REB AST STL
    2 5 1 0

    LIN , JEREMY
    EAST / CHA / GUARD
    PTS REB AST STL
    11 2 1 1

    WILLIAMS , MARVIN
    EAST / CHA / FRONTCOURT
    PTS REB AST STL
    4 6 1 0

    ZELLER , CODY
    EAST / CHA / FRONTCOURT
    PTS REB AST STL
    8 4 0 0
    Vote again tomorrow and see how the NBA All-Star Game 2016 could play out!

  • real-dsb

    all-star voting key dates:

    Dec 10 2:00pm ET – voting starts
    Dec 25 – 1st update
    Jan 7 – 2nd update
    Jan 14 – 3rd update
    Jan 18 11:59:59pm ET – voting ends
    Jan 21 7:00pm ET – announced on TNT

    http://www.nba.com/2015/news/12/10/2016-all-star-ballot-official-release/index.html

  • real-dsb

    Anyone figure out how to vote on NBA mobile app?

    I looked through the NBA mobile app and did not see where to vote.

  • real-dsb

    If the ASG were a true roster of the best performing players at their positions, then I probably wouldn’t vote for Lin until he earned it.

    But the ASG is just an exhibition of popular players, so Lin definitely deserves to be voted for in that category.

  • real-dsb

    Haha, true, Kobe will get a ton of votes because it’s his swan year. So I could see him being #2 overall behind Curry. But I predict Curry gets the most all-star votes of all-time this year. (Partially because they keep expanding voting methods).

  • TTNN

    look at the dumb bell size Lamb had, I want to check what his strength number in 2K, that’s considerable smaller than what Lin used to bench…..

  • 1. Do you know that Lin & Lamb are ranked 3rd and 4th in Highest Net Rating for Guards in the Eastern Conference (min 15 games)? (refresh for pics)

    Link: http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=GP*GE*15&Conference=East&PlayerPosition=G

    2. In case people say they have good Net Rating for outscoring bench players, check out the Net Rating of EC guards in the 4th Quarter during crucial time to win games:

    Batum is #1, Lin #5 and Kemba #10

    Link: http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=GP*GE*15&Conference=East&PlayerPosition=G&Period=4

  • sws94

    Here’s a Charlotte’s fans perspective of Lin so far. I think it is fair. Master Ichiro on GM:

    Lin – B
    He’s been inefficient like Batum and like Lamb from 3 but he commands attention on the court. His inside outside game opens up the floor and he’s been positive for Cody, Frank and Lamb. He is a huge upgrade over Brian Roberts and hopefully his minutes will help relieve Kemba of a heavy workload. The team plays so much better when Kemba has high energy. Lin is also a clutch performer. He makes some unlikely shots and gets to the rack better than anyone on the team, can draw fouls and make smart plays. I hope he’s content as a backup PG and we re-sign him.

  • occupatio

    who cares. i dont even know why you bother.

  • rookie75094

    No he won’t be content and hornet won’t resign him

  • CJSHYY

    They want to sign him but he will not stay…

  • CJSHYY

    BTW, why don’t you tell him if as a backup why Lin should stay here not GSW w maybe few rings in the future?

  • rookie75094

    Jlin will have the hornets crying by the end of the season

  • CJSHYY

    Plus back to bay area w his family…

  • sws94

    Who cares? Well, you get a not exclusive Lin fan’s perspective on Lin’s contributions. I think it is good to notice they see he is clutch. That’s a quality that more than we notice. It’s also good to hear how they feel he’s blending with the team. The stuff at the end is less important to me about being content as a PG more than the qualities they are noticing of Lin as a team player. Because, Lin is a team player although sometimes we focus more on his individual stats (for good reason, because we want him in a good position to play more in the future).

  • LinMad

    I think he was positive for Hawes too. He makes Hawes look really good.

  • sws94

    I’m not focusing on the backup part. I’m focusing on what this Charlotte fan notices about Lin’s play for his team.

  • rookie75094

    Jlin made Everyone looks good

  • CJSHYY

    I know that’s their wish which will not come true for sure. They are nice to Lin so far… forget where… but Cliff said Lin will be a starting PG in the league… I think even Cliff knew Lin will not stay.

  • rookie75094

    Then you should explain that before posting it

  • sws94

    I cross that bridge later. Right now, he’s in Charlotte. I’m not going past this season.

  • sws94

    No need, take what you want. I don’t care really. If all people want to see is the “backup” part, a word I don’t even agree with, then fine. I think he is the organizer of the 2nd unit and plays from off of the bench. If people want to call that “backup” then, fine. But I just see Lin as coming into the game later and making contributions that way.

  • rookie75094

    You are right …back up is the word Lin fans see..
    .and we don’t like it!

  • sws94

    I don’t call Ginobilii or Iggy backup players. I think they are great players coming off of the bench. And I’m not thinking of next season, this one is only 1/4 through.

  • CJSHYY

    Well, since that fan talked about next season. Anyway, If they continue to play Lin’s team ball then I think Lin will pick up his stats in the future.

  • sws94

    He’s thinking for the team, yes. I’m following the team Lin is on so I’m just thinking of Lin growing in his usage on this team. Next season I’m following wherever Lin goes, Charlotte if he stays, other team if he doesn’t. But now I’m not thinking about next season.

  • rookie75094

    The difference is that they were starters in their prime….where as Jlin is in his prime right now

  • jeremy

    He seems to be content
    Team is winning so this is better than starting for a losing team

  • jeremy

    Ginobili is great sure not sure about Iggy being a great player
    He’s good but not great

  • sws94

    I’m not worried about that. If Lin can lead benches and be the best at it, and that’s all he can do in today’s NBA, at least he’ll have that distinction. I want to see Lin be a factor in winning games. That’s why I like that he has a chance to close here.

  • rookie75094

    Agreed

  • CJSHYY

    Now they play his team ball hope next will be his game then??? If so Lin really gets what he asked for it.

  • rookie75094

    I am ok with his role right now…but no way he will come back to the hornet for the same role

  • Guest

    Why do you spend so much time subtly posting comments to devalue JLin? What’s your motive? Whom you do work for?

  • rookie75094

    At the moment. ..maybe..long term goals….don’t think so

  • sws94

    That’s a bad question and too personally wrapped up in one poster. It’s very silly actually.

  • rookie75094

    Who to say Jlin won’t turn the team into a winning one….I have fact to back that up.

  • Guest

    I’m bot content with this 3rd or 4th rankings.
    As far as I’m concerned, JLin is capable of No 1 ranking.
    JLin fans nowadays have the mediocre achiever mentality..sad.

  • Guest

    As I can see, you have personal agendas posting here.
    You always justify JLin marginalization and happy to have him backup mediocre players.

  • jeremy

    what fact?
    It’s just very unlikely
    Not many people can turn a losing team into a winning one all by themselves
    common sense

  • sws94

    I don’t care about your opinion. Obviously I don’t think he’s being marginalized and I think he’s in a decent situation now and am hoping he does great where he is so he’s reasonably happy with the decision he made to join this club. I wish him to the make the best of it and to communicate well with his coach in his usage while on this team, however long that will be and will be of his choosing hopefully.

  • John Focker

    That’s actually not a bad view from someone who’s NOT a Lin fan (who in all likelihood hasn’t followed through Lin’s struggles in non-optimal circumstances during the last three years, and therefore isn’t as informed as we are in all things Lin).

  • rookie75094

    At the moment I am ok with that…..but only at the moment..hehe

  • sws94

    Most Hornets fans I read are pleased with Lin. And they know he can do better and think he will. I’m glad to see that.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin’s ultimate goal is to spread the word of God especially to China through basketball. You don’t do that as a backup player on a small town team. I doubt most people in China have even heard of Charlotte before Lin went there.

  • blubell

    It just gives you the ballot link which is the same as voting online.

  • sws94

    I don’t think any. Not Curry, LeBron, no one can. It’s a team sport and all great players need help.

  • rookie75094

    You must have not been aound Feb 4 2012 and 3 weeks after that….that’s my fact…better yet go rent linsanity

  • sws94

    They will now. And maybe this is where he needs to be right now. I can’t know that.

  • heart

    I believe Cliff said that in his press interview on media day before the opening of preseason. See how things changed 180 degree after preseason.

  • sws94

    That winning streak was all it was. The team erased that by going on a losing streak almost as long and MDA was gone when Anthony mutinied against him along with JR Smith.

  • John Focker

    I can (or sure hope) everyone here thinks Lin IS starter material, if not STAR PG. However, the damage from Rox/Lakers is very real, and it takes time to heal. Hornets fans appreciating him as a bench is a baby step in the right direction, however small, it is still 100x better than KKKlutchfans vitriol and Lakers’ mockery.

  • rookie75094

    Still that is the fact that backed my statement….he turn a losing team into a winning one…. you can’t dispute that

  • sws94

    He was a missing piece and led to a magical win streak. The Knicks were losing and Lin was a difference maker of historic proportions. That’s true. Now, over a season without the other pieces and great coach is another challenge.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No, they don’t have the say if whether or not they want to resign. Please get the fact straight.

  • John Focker

    I REALLY think the ASG ballot gets rigged. SERIOUSLY.

  • occupatio

    it certainly is. as in, the rules about whose votes count change according to the ‘needs’ of each year.

  • rookie75094

    Who to say the bad teams don’t have the pieces or a good coach….maybe Jlin is the missing piece for them to be good….as you stated above….thanks for backing up my point.

  • John Focker

    Lin’s votes last year made ZERO sense as China votes alone would’ve wiped everyone else’s. They were either completely omitted, or multiplied by a factor of 0.05 or something.

  • sws94

    Lin is in the game if they weren’t. I don’t really watch it, I don’t enjoy it. Not the dunk stuff either. Sometimes the rookies game is entertaining.

  • sws94

    If a player wants to take that chance, they can. But Lin had a miserable time on the losing Lakers. They looked like they had the pieces. Teams like the Nets and sixers don’t look great now and the 76rs have a losing culture and maybe a rookie with an attitude (hope he improves, hasn’t started off well).

  • occupatio

    im not making it up about the rules changing either. there was that one year in which the nba allowed votes by tweet, and then it changed the rules about which would count and which wouldnt midway through, when the publicly documented tweet numbers were making it obvious that lin should have gotten more votes than would be eventually counted.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    5 more days, anything can happen around the league.

  • John Focker

    Agree with you completely. Have not watched ASG in at least 15 years…

  • John Focker

    Starts in 5 more days, ends in February. Will be an interesting two months: better Lin treatment would indicate intention to retain him, or just trade. Good weather balloon for Lin’s market value in the next offseason even if not traded.

  • sws94

    I think Lin is the not so secret secret weapon on the Hornets. For most of the game, he just plays like a regular player. Defends, hustles, etc. sets up players, knocks down or drives for a few shots and plays it kind of coy when he’s on with Batum and Kemba. But then when the defenses are keyed in on Kemba and Batum, if Clifford has him on the floor later in games, he goes into Hairsanity mode and knocks down big shots or makes great plays for teammates or leads a transition/lob thereby breaking the back of the opposing team. I think that’s the strategy Clifford may see. Having 3 facilitators on the court is tricky (I know we don’t consider Kemba one but he’s a ball handler that can draw defenses so he is one). One of the guys has to play decoy and mostly, it’s Lin. I think that’s where the Hornets may be heading offensively for Lin so long as the others are scoring. When others aren’t scoring, then Lin plays a bigger role throughout the game. That’s my theory.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The way things are going, it’s very hard for the Hornets to trade Lin but everyone is for sale.

  • rookie75094

    The difference is the tankers wanted to lose….where as the Nets and hopefully the 76ers now ….wanted to win but cant….you are trying to compare apple to oranges.

  • Dan Cohen

    if you have to choose one below , which one will it be:

    lin playing for 13 minutes, but gets 12 and 4 but team wins to playoffs
    or
    lin playing for 30 minutes but gets 4 and 4 but team is a loser.

  • John Focker

    For a possibly expiring 2M contract (2nd year player option)? It should logically be a very EASY (low risk) trade. If anything it would be the Hornets who are unwilling to part with such a good deal.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He won’t get 4 and 4 if play 30 min, that’s question didn’t make sense.

  • rookie75094

    I chose Jlin play 30 minutes gets 20 and 10 and team goes to the playoff and win whole thing

  • John Focker

    Lin playing 30 minutes, gets 19/7 nightly, and takes Hornets to NBA Finals. Doh! LOL

  • John Focker

    Depends on freezer settings…

  • Dan Cohen

    it happened before..in houston.. ok.. I give it to you 5 5 5..yes that happened before

  • sws94

    But doing it intentionally or not, Lin doesn’t like losing. It seems to get to him.

  • Dan Cohen

    and I know someone will say this answer because I will be the one saying the same thing..
    BUT it’s a question to test how you want lin to play.

    starter..and more minutes but less stats
    or
    less is moore.. better stats.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not the contract term, it’s his effectiveness when on the floor, Hornet has to get something very good in return.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    One game Dan. But I know what you’re saying.

  • rookie75094

    And that is THE reason Jlin will try to turn the losing into winning regardless what team he is playing with and ..I rather see him trying to do that as a starter

  • heart

    And they probably still want him to resign his second year at 2M as a ‘backup’ of course. What a deal for them?

  • DX

    What will happen for Lin is:

    Play 30 minutes as starters for some bottom teams, get 20/8.

    Play 20 minutes as bench in play-off teams, get 12/4.

    Play 10 minutes for champion team, get 6/2.

    I will choose the 1st one.

  • jeremy

    I didnt follow him then
    but it was a miracle
    thats why Lin became a sensation
    and the team had talent and they werent trying to lose

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Dreaming.

  • jeremy

    Lakers last year Lin didnt make them a wiining team so…

  • heart

    Yep. But that’s what Hornets fans are buying in. See their IQ?

  • rookie75094

    I want the cake aND eat it too

  • rookie75094

    1st one because bottom team will become a top team

  • sws94

    And anything can happen anywhere. Where he goes may tank too for the draft pick. Honestly, I think Lin likes winning teams even if he plays less. But that’s my guess, I don’t know if he said that specifically.

  • Rick Johnson

    Hornets might do it to get someone they think they need more long term. Maybe a rim protecting athletic big?

  • rookie75094

    Just because you didn’t follow him…doesn’t make it not a fact to back up my statement

  • rookie75094

    Read below jeremy….I don’t know if you deserve that name…lol

  • rookie75094

    I do know he specific ly said he wants to be a starter…then win the chip.

  • sws94

    That’s in a perfect world. What he’ll ultimately do with the NBA realities being what they are may not be that.

  • Guest

    Missing the most important data, what is his salary???

  • sport

    If Lin gets to lead his own team as PG with 32+ minutes every game that “bottom” will be a contending team!

  • sws94

    Hornets haven’t buzzed anything about trading anyone yet. So, it’s all kind of just idle trade talk here that isn’t based on what the Hornets may seem to want to do. I think they are happy with Lin, not looking for any movement there and will wait to off-season going forward at his position. Playing both 1 and 2 effectively and defending helps Lin wherever he goes or if he decides to stay put.

  • Rick Johnson
  • jeremy

    its a fact but doesnt back it up it was 3 years ago and Lin didnt turn it around with the lakers
    so theres that

  • rookie75094

    I know that….you stated you think Jlin like to play with a winning team what ever the role……where I know he does wants to win and be a starter while doing the winning…and the second part is only possible when Jlin turn losing team in to a winning one

  • Briiick

    Shorter hands are more powerful, LOL.

  • Rick Johnson
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    2 not 1 (from twitter)

  • jeremy

    I think you are the one who needs to read
    I already NY wasnt trying to lose and Lakers were so Lin being on a losing team thats trying to lose is not gonna be better than right now
    You deserve your name LOL

  • jeremy

    Players wanna win
    why do u think Tmac left Houston and Vince left Toronto?

  • sport

    LOL don’t know why I found this to be funny since it’s obviously not intentional but oh well too bad for Blake.

  • Briiick

    It would be laughable if Morey can’t pump an All Star from Rox this season.

  • rookie75094

    Like said below the lakers are trying to lose …Jlin can’t change that situation….so the laker is not a valid point to support your argument. ..I rest my case

  • jeremy

    Harden will get in no matter what

  • jeremy

    Thats what I said, rookie
    Learn to read and think before you talk.

  • rookie75094

    Did I say Jlin didn’t want to win….stick to the topic
    Smh

  • sws94

    I think to really turn around a losing team you need to crack the whip. Lin is not a crack the whip type from what I’ve seen. And I don’t think Lin is the player he was in 2012 in his approach. In 2012 he was raw and very aggressive. Now he’s more controlled and picks his spots.

  • jeremy

    You said he wanted to be a starter then win
    but i was saying in general
    thats why i said players did I say Lin?
    your critical thinking skills are pretty primitive

  • rookie75094

    You are the one stated Jlin can’t change the lakers implying Jlin is not capable…hence my point lakers can’t be change …not because Jlin is not capable but because they are trying to lose….are you trying to troll me?

  • real-dsb

    too bad for Blake? I’d say too bad for Gibson! =)

  • rookie75094

    I am happy to discuss with you without the name calling….r you a troll?

  • sws94

    There’s no more a player that wants to get guys to win than Kobe. He couldn’t turn it around. And when he played with Lin, what could Lin do? It’s funny that people here want to see Lin start yet mostly, outside of NY and the first season in Houston, Lin has played better with the bench. On the Hornets, Lin plays better with the bench than with the starters. It’s not who he is guarding because I’ve found he guards starters as well as bench players.

  • sws94

    Careful or the mods will warn you. Please remember the spirit of the forum guidelines. Thanks.

  • real-dsb

    Oh, you mean if you go to “Latest” section, the link that takes you to vote.nba.com?

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe and Curry will take the starters guard spots. Harden would have to be selected by the coaches. Compete with Lillard, Westbrook, Thompson, CP3,

  • sws94

    You’re fine, you are in the spirit of the forum. This is a good discussion if we stay on the topic and not get personal. But you’re fine.

  • rookie75094

    I stop reading after the first comment….kobe doesn’t care about winning last year..he just want to break records.

  • CJSHYY

    Kobe is a SF now.

  • rookie75094

    I know I am….don’t know about Jeremy though….

  • sws94

    I think he does, it’s sort of in his crazy DNA. He’s very stat driven and selfish also. Now, he’s just wanting to yield his power knowing his coach isn’t going to challenge him and then soak in all the Thank you Kobe stuff for his career at most arenas. But Lin didn’t do things the way Kobe wanted and Kobe turned on Lin. That’s not the stuff Lin needs. And losing brings out the worse in players. Okafor is not handling it well. I don’t think Lin with a losing team is something Lin feels he wants to tolerate in his life now based on some of what he’s said.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Boy would I like to crack the whip on your hiney.
    Watch me whip it. What me nae nae. Watch me watch me!

  • GUEST a

    So agree with you!!!!

  • rookie75094

    fair enough… I still think Jlin is more than capable of turning a losing g situation into a winning one…whereever that is as long as he get to be the starter

  • sws94

    I’m watching you get flagged. That’s about all. Self-control isn’t your forte, is it?

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh wow, you’re right.

  • Rick Johnson

    Isn’t Paul Pressey a little old to be on the NBA All Star Ballot?

  • sws94

    See, I think Lin is a winner. He is a clutch player, he hustles, leaves it all out there on the court. He has that in him. But I think he is a winning piece and his personality is that he doesn’t want to be “the man”. He just about said that in his testimonies in China, how it weighed on him with Houston. He does have a lot of leadership on court. But Lin, plus another big piece, can make a team a winning team, a playoff team if not quite a championship team.

  • please refrain from hurling personal insults.

    It breaks the site rules:
    http://www.jlinportal.com/website-rules-must-read/

    thank you

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I get flagged; you get flogged. Deal?

    I have many fortes.

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! I like Fisher… Looks like PJ really don’t like Melo…LOL!

    https://twitter.com/happypappy3434/status/675039018329968641

  • It’s good that Hornets fans recognize JLin’s contribution so far:
    “He makes some unlikely shots and gets to the rack better than anyone on the team, can draw fouls and make smart plays.”

    They certainly have hope that he can be content as a backup PG but most of them know JLin signed essentially a 1 yr-cheap deal to check the market value in the new NBA salary cap.

    I believe JLin and his team will test the market at the end of the season to see which team offers the best package to help him accomplish his dreams (starter, All-Star, championship). Whether he stays or not, we simply have to wait.

    For now, I root for JLin to have great role to help Hornets advance deep in the playoff. It’s a win-win scenario.
    JLin picked the right team and coach to increase his market value this year. His shooting will get better soon.

  • CJSHYY

    So very likely Harden will make it for backcourt. smh!

  • sws94

    That’s a coach. Byron say that to Kobe? Never. That’s why Kobe liked Fisher. He told Kobe stuff he didn’t want to hear. In Kobe’s way of thinking, that’s inspiring and that’s what he feeds off of. A certain level of confrontation.

  • Acbc

    This again is a flawed logic. What you assume is that Ginobilli likes come in off bench. I’ll bet any money that Ginobili doesn’t like it. He’d rather start. He accepts his role because he’s old and can’t keep up with the youngsters anymore. That’s just euphemistically saying he’s not good enough as a starter. Even Iggy complained about his backup role.

    If Lin was in a different situation where he gets ball in hand for 25 minutes a game maybe he’d be less of a backup bench player, but he doesn’t. Why that is debatable now because there are extenuating reasons that could be the cause for how much Kemba and Batum dominates the handling of the ball. Once the trade season expires and the all star game is over, we’ll know precisely what Clifford and CHO wants from Lin.

    If Lin’s role remains the same, then I’ll have to give up on Hornets as a possible home for Lin. The reasons I have already spelled out. If a coach and FO has already decided for you what your limits are, then they are not themselves elite as coaches and management teams.

    It’s the difference between old style hierarchical managements to the new Silicon Valley parallel management style.

    “One of the greatest advantages of adopting a parallel learning structure is that it brings underutilized but talented employees to the forefront. In traditional bureaucratic business’ hierarchy structures, some employees may not feel motivated to put their best ideas out there, for fear of a supervisor “stealing” credit or because they feel the company doesn’t compensate them well enough for a wholehearted creative contribution. By contrast, a parallel learning structure gives credit where it’s due, and employees who frequently contribute to the group learning environment are in a perfect position for performance incentive rewards, be it a raise or a promotion.”

    When I look at Clifford’s style of coaching, it appears more and more hierarchical in nature. That system structure is like a pyramid of building blocks to support the top blocks. Lin may never be more than the bottom blocks of that system.

  • I guess we have confirmation from Frank that MJ said “Good game and @JLin7 Nice Hair”?
    Can anyone verify the article from Taiwan?

    If yes, it’s good that MJ appreciated JLin’s contribution in the blowout game.

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/675150756085956609

  • sws94

    I’m following the rules and am not interested in someone’s petty vendettas on a poster they don’t approve of. You follow the rules, I don’t care. I have every confidence I didn’t break anything so flag all of my posts if you see fit.

  • wu kong
  • wu kong

    Haha. Exactly the same post at the same time !

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    You mean there’s no hope of ever getting rid of you? ?????

  • hehe, great minds think alike! =)

    What MJ said to Lin is quite important.
    The GOAT owner!

  • sws94

    Maybe it is flawed. Maybe not. I see Lin making a case to the league as an outstanding player coming off of the bench simply because he’s been the constant on 3 teams of the top benches of the team. As a starter, he doesn’t do as much especially with ball-dominant players. But he also has made a case of being a strong impact player that can change games while being clutch. That’s a quality I think the league knows of as well. So, he may end up with somewhat less PT as a bench player, but doesn’t have to be much less. I truly pay less importance to starting than most posters here and I won’t change that. Now, Lin may very well want to or need to start at some point in his career. That’s his choice. I only know that when Lin says so but he chose to go to a team that had an established point guard at least for this season.

  • sws94

    Talk topic or don’t talk to me. It’s as simple as that.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He said Adidas suck, wear Jordan.

  • sws94

    Hate to do this psalm but I’ve had enough with Jeremiah. I flagged his offending post. Maybe you can say a word to this. If I’m out of line, I’ll make sure to stay within the spirit of the rules in my posts going forward.

  • haha .. gotta love Google Translate on JLin’s hair 2010-15 evolution

    – Nerd head
    – fifth head obediently
    – airplane handsome head
    – scribing head-thirds
    – The Angry Mohawks
    – What is “Mawei Rind”?

    http://www.appledaily.com.tw/appledaily/article/sports/20151211/36948365/

  • your son’s voltaire

    i’d say the man-bun is affecting his shooting

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    It’s as simple as that. That’s one of Byron’s favorite expressions. There have now been quite a few posts complaining about how your Lin slander has made this site unpleasant. And they’ve received a lot of upvotes. But you don’t care. You need to spread your gospel on both fan sites. It you at least had a sense of humor maybe you’d be a bit less taoyan.

  • please refrain from attacking the person.

    Just focus on the content of the post if you disagree.
    All Lin fans are welcome here.

    Some might be okay if JLin stays as a backup. I disagree but I can respect that.

  • I asked him to refrain from attacking the person, just focus on the post.

    I think many misinterpret your post so it’s good to clarify ahead of time to avoid misunderstanding. Just my 2cents

  • sws94

    psalm234 has given you instruction. What you say about how others feel about me is of no interest to me. There are all types of Lin fans, I hope you can accept that some day.

  • MJ would loooove to have JLin wearing Air Jordan
    He’s so into biz now

  • sws94

    Thank you. Will try to do so in future posts.

  • I wanted to to comment that despite not being featured as the primary PG, JLin still helped a lot with high Net Rating.

    It would be good justification for All-Star Vote or at least to show his values in winning, especially in the 4th quarter

    We need to broadcast it in twitter so many know JLin is clutch and helps to win based on NBA.com/stats

  • yes, true statement

  • Steppen03

    Exactly =)
    IF Lin is leading the Sixers or Nets (worst teams) – the team will be “average” at worst, middle of the pact, from Seed 14-15 to Seed 9-10 OR 8th seed – playoff bound. I would pick this option – him playing 35+ mpg and leader. If he’s stuck on this Hornets team then this team CAN be Hornets VS Cavs in EC Finals. CCliff have to unleash JL7 for 22+ mpg and help him get into a good rhythm in order for them to make it there.
    Should AL coming off bench ?? The team does better without him at this point. Like David Lee in GS last season …. Hornets need to win big and AL can be the problem….

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Ok psalm. I will refrain. ? But she irks me. She iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirks me! And I don’t have the patience or energy to keep refuting all of her nasty posts.

  • DX

    It pretty much same as before.

  • Dan Cohen

    hahahahaha like minds think a like.

  • Briiick

    If MJ finds a starting role for Lin in this team (which he deserves) and make him feel happy, he will be richer.

  • occupatio

    Quoted for truth:

    “If a coach and FO has already decided for you what your limits are,
    then they are not themselves elite as coaches and management teams.”

  • There are 2 possible ways to do so but let’s see if MJ really wants to invest in JLin as part of the Hornets future.

  • james brown

    i hope so too and i see some sign that cliff’s might be heading for that too. Saw the last game that the ball is now rotating and being passed unlike the previous games wherein 2 to 3 players only touch the ball at 4 to 5 minutes stretch..with the last 2 games, Jeremy had a consistent sub pattern and i do hope it last not because JLIn is making his shots but because he’s vital for cliffs play agenda.

    I don’t mind Jlin having low stats with the team winning and winning the right way. No ball hog team is fun to watch because it caters to all players at every given game. KW must buy in with this system for it to work and when Al Jeff comes back must reinvent himself to adapt to the new system and the team must not come back to that ISO plays all the time.

    There must be a balance on who to take the ball and who to shoot and who to deliver the goods when the chips are down, and i see JLIN will one of them but still waiting for it to happen fully!

  • james brown

    its a done deal when the trading chips is so tempting to pass on….like Melo ..or howard or cousins perhaps? (just random sample testing!)

  • sport

    AL had injury and won’t be playing already, he not a problem anymore. I see Walker and Batum’s selfish playing and icing out Lin being a problems especially Walker!

  • JoeTeam

    Yep. In slow mo that looked much worse than the jlin hair pull by kidd

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Byron was hand picked by Kobe to be his personal nanny. If Byron said something like that to Kobe it would be like cutting off his own head. Fisher and PJ OTOH are trying to win games. They are not dependent on Melo for their own survival. You really have no clue about the dynamics of the NBA.

  • CJSHYY

    Did MJ say Good game to Frank or Lin?

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    And furthermore, anyone who really confronts Kobe such as Swaggy, D’Angelo, etc gets DNPed or shipped out. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • Charlie S

    I’m sure MJ has seen all the footage (college till now) of the players on his team. I wonder what he thinks of JLin.

  • jeremy

    Well shes the one who started it but noted

  • Dan Cohen

    how are you so surio?

  • jeremy

    Yeah he will get it
    Thompson and CP3 will miss out most likely

  • Hope

    Trivia: who has the most points in first 5 starts?

  • jeremy

    You are the one who started it

  • james brown

    i like to share this excerpts from JLINTEL”

    Hornets at Crossroad, Last Call before You miss Lin

    Posted on December 9, 2015 by chirico

    not promoting it but sharing the contents of the thought!

    “why many Lin fans find his game is so fun, exciting to watch? Part of it
    may be due to many of his play is fast paces, but out side of the box,
    there is one more trait in his game, that is creativity. He is so
    creative in a way that he had revolutionized pro basketball. Many of us
    could not imagine how could he thought of such a play for him and his
    teammates.”

    “Jeremy Lin has made himself all around basketball player as many of us
    witnessed. On pretty much all counts, He is clearly the best and most
    efficient combo guard on Hornets roaster, regardless of his pay grade”

    ” Imagine where Hornets may be if Lin is unleashed. Hornets are at the
    crossroad in deciding whether or not to change its long terms strategy
    to start embracing and making Jeremy as part of their long term picture.”

    and to add another quote from same piece that maybe the first impression hornets has during the thought process of JLIN acquisition:

    “Make him fit or you pass it, a crossroad challenge to Hornet

    It appeared Hornets stole Lin this season was simply using him as a
    consultant in order to help grow young players, improve outside shooting
    threat, and perhaps put some pressure onto Walker in hope that he
    improves his “PG skills.” It seemed successful so far, but what may have
    surprised Hornets FO were the facts that besides his stellar defensive
    effort since the beginning of this season, whenever Lin involved more
    and given more chance to run the offense, Hornets were playing as if
    they are close cousin of Golden State Warriors.”

  • Hope

    Trivia: who has the most assists in first 5 starts?

  • jeremy

    hes not that type of player to me right now
    he was phenomenal in 2nd year hou thou he hasnt beem that player for some time
    thats all

  • jeremy

    I’m sure MJ has better things to do but we all know MJ isnt anti Lin

  • james brown

    not anymore if we are going to base it during their last game . ball passing were evident and no hero ball/ball hog player present. hope to have this kind of system developed and remains. Players can change too!!!

  • jeremy

    he deserves it thou still
    No SG in the west is playing better than him

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Acbc

    Debate you’re points or fold the comments. If you just attack people like this, you just attack you’re own credibility instead.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    As someone said before Lin is a glue guy and I agree 100%. In Asian talks NBA video, Lin said he learned the best trick from different players, that’s why even though his shooting is not like Curry, his defense is not like Bowen and his dribbling is not like CP3 but he has them all. He has what it takes to be a great player if given a chance. Lin is no backup PG if you watch and compare to others PGs in the league today, including the very PG he serves as backup now.

    I hope whatever he planned is working for him so far with this team. But if anyone think this is what he wanted or the team treated him well and this is all he asked, you’re so wrong about his goal and ambition. I would suggest you to rewatch his Linsanity documentary again and again.

  • Acbc

    We are definately getting close to that crossroad when Hornets must decide if they can accommodate Lin’s ability on their roster. Play him or lose him…it’s that simple.

  • Dan Cohen

    see it’s all entertainment and nba politics

  • lol Dirk traveled through a hop-scotch box
    I guess once you’re a star, you can do this

    https://twitter.com/Shaqtin_A_Fool/status/674958355341967360

  • Dan Cohen

    duh

  • Dan Cohen

    duh..

  • Dan Cohen

    superstar noncall

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    You mean like how you told takemeback2thereaganyears to STFU? I see.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This is really the only way Lin gets a chance to validate himself….go to a team like Philly or Brooklyn nets…I know many Lin fan think these team are beneath Lin, but those are really the only option for Lin to play a lot.

    Lin needs a team that doesn’t have an establish PG in place…I’d put Knicks in that category…But even these team tend to prefer to develop their young player.

    The Kicks probably told Lin “No” because they wanted to develop Galloway and Grant…Both of them probably would never be better than Lin…My hope is Knicks come to their senses and bring Lin back next year.

  • Briiick

    Well said. The game against GSW is a wake-up call for the top brains in Hornets, exposing the skill levels between KW and Curry.

  • ICYMI Great job @disqus_Qw9GaYTag0:disqus as usual compiling the FG% and impact of Batum/Kemba on bench plus Lin/Lamb on starters!

    https://twitter.com/22NN4/status/675013607529271296

  • golfhacker

    NBA has no integrity.

  • grover chang

    Thank you for the link. He organized the data very well and I agree with the conclusion that players do better when Batum plays. I’m surprised he did not mention the same about Lin. The tables show Batum helps the team but it also showed Lin helped the team but the writer did not write that in his conclusion.

  • CJSHYY
  • Uh-Oh

    Haha.ˊ_>ˋ Do as I do. Scroll over and do the selective reading. Too much to read these days. if you read something you dislike, roll your eyes and say “WHATEVER” to yourself. Don’t want to read too much crap that will put myself in bad mood.

  • Rzo Vlade

    “The shooting percentage maybe isn’t there,’’ Fisher said of Anthony’s numbers. “But overall it’s a collective energy from our group. That’s the biggest issue. The shooting will always go up and down. For Melo, it’s not any different. You got to find ways to do winning things when it’s not going so well, when the stats aren’t going for you.

    melo + calderon for jlin and jlamb and kminsky

  • occupatio

    this supports what I said previously:

    replace lin with kemba in the 2nd unit, and the bench certainly gets worse.

    replace kemba with lin in the 1st unit, and they dont get worse, but probably improve.

    overall conclusion: this team doesn’t need kemba to do so much; his role should be lessened in order to benefit the team.

  • Rick Johnson

    I was comparing lineups with Lin & no Walker the lineups look pretty impressive with big double digit NetRtg. Then look at lineups with Kemba & no Lin it isn’t nearly as impressive and the positive ones mostly have Jefferson. Now you take away Jefferson and it looks pretty bad. If this pans out in these games without Jefferson it will be apparent that Kemba not a very effective PG:

  • sws94

    Rondo just made a strong dunk. Don’t see that often.

  • Briiick

    I find that Kemba is almost always a negative contribution when he is added to a lineup.

  • Joe what do you know

    Wait in line Jon, plenty of good stylists in Asia who understand Asian hairstyle.

  • CJSHYY

    Rondo show case for NYK?

  • occupatio

    and more pointedly, the only benefit of having kemba on the team is so that the inferior roberts doesn’t play.
    but as it is now, he is doing too much. if kemba’s minutes and role were halved, the team gets better.

    if lin is removed, the team collapses. because the bench is gone and that’s what’s been winning games. Look at their NetRtg: it vastly exceeds the starters.

  • sws94

    I think he’s happy in Sacramento.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so.

  • Briiick

    I thought so too from the tables. Hornets’ player evaluation is way off.

  • occupatio

    yet, you will hear sws94 go on and on about how good kemba is and how consistent he is.

    what kemba has been consistent about is elevate himself at the cost of the team. and unfortunately, i dont think its just a choice he makes. hes incapable of being otherwise.

  • Warren
  • sws94

    You’re mistaken. Kemba is playing better than ever, but he’s not my favorite type of PG. I like Nash, Lin, Stockton, Magic, players like that over the shoot a lot guys like Kemba. Kemba passes more than he used to, maybe more than we give him credit for. He’s also had some clutch to him, but so does Lin. And I do think that Clifford wants Kemba/Batum/Lin closing games more often than not.

    I do think in the Kings game, Kemba’s scoring was needed. In the Knicks game that I saw live, his scoring and play didn’t help bring the Hornets the W and they lost.

    I think Kemba is a decent guy but he’s not one of my favorite players by any means.

  • occupatio

    kemba has been shooting very well this season — which is both good and bad. the bad is that it hides his limited effectiveness in terms of overall team performance. at some pt, playing too much kemba gets diminishing returns and hurts the team. it has already been past that point.

    certainly, or in high likelihood, kemba’s shooting percentages will normalize towards his career averages. when that happens — and it already happening — the negative effect of his outsized role and minutes will become more obvious. i think it is already obvious but it will be even more so.

    hopefully cliff can see it. but im doubtful. so far, he sees the best in kemba but not the best in lin.

  • Briiick

    Yeah a lot of clueless fans are easily fooled by stat padding and stud fabricating (that is the motivation for stats padding), but advanced stats are a moving target that fake studs can’t easily manipulate, because they calculate the correlation of personal stats with wins.

  • sws94

    It’ll normalize, I agree. And I don’t know what Cliff will do but I hope he at least doesn’t put Kemba in with Lin as much as he has been and they mostly play in the last periods of halves, games or both in OT.

    Team stats are supporting having Lin used more in tandem with whoever works well with him on those stats and Kemba less.

  • Rick Johnson

    Interesting podcast with Jeff Van Gundy. Thinks Hornets are actually better without MKG and they caught a break when he was injured: At 40:00 talks about who can come out and challenge Cav’s from the east. Doing better without Jefferson. At around 46:30 talks about they caught a break when MKG went out because it improved their offense without hurting their defense much:

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14330983

  • JJ Hui

    True Lin fans will support Lin unconditionally!

  • occupatio

    thanks for the link. JVG is my favorite commentator.

  • TTNN

    most obviously when Kemba was playing with the bench, he was taking 32% USG%, he shoot very well, and shoot efficiently, but both Lin and Lamb got a hit, and results in a much less NetRtg. Perfect example of certain player could be great individually, but not helping the team.

  • John Focker

    Not just without MKG, Al missing out also unclogs the lane and speeds up the game.

  • MorlockO

    I dont agree with him… MKG’s injury totally messed up the rotation… and his offense is totally underrated… just his athleticism alone makes him a threat offensively. plus he had an improved jumper…

  • blubell
  • occupatio

    the podcast shows zach’s biases again: he has mostly pretended that Lin is not in the NBA for years. you can be sure that if he talks about the hornets, he will never consider lin’s contribution.

    at the beginning of the season, he said with MKG out, the team will certainly suck because all their wing players are net negative (ie bad) in defense.

    we all know lin has been a good and underrated defender. zach won’t acknowledge it though. he will credit clifford as the coach and chalk it up to something vague like ‘team defense’ which doesn’t explain it all.

  • Rick Johnson

    BBALLBREAKDOWN
    ‏@bballbreakdown
    Chuck: “If Kobe wants to get into television, one of us is gonna get fired.”

    https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/675203382336995328

  • DX

    Please don’t judge my nephew. He is 12 years old Lin fan. 😉

  • occupatio

    one thing’s for sure, i hope you stop with your ‘lin should only get more minutes when he proves himself.’ meanwhile, when lesser players like kemba get the keys handed to them even if it hurts the team, no questions asked. you just perpetuate that double standard for lin.

  • bolero
  • james brown

    and bench doesn’t includes KW.or Batum….so almost most of the game that separation were big, the second unit was the one who bailed the team out and few games need to elevate more because the starters sucks on that games. Inserting Batum on the second unit even for a short time makes the line up more formidable, but bench per se has already proven capable and becomes the top 10 best bench in the nba…inserting KW with the bench had shown that it only disrupt the flow of the bench because he takes away the engine that runs the bench- JLIN!

  • Rick Johnson

    Also shows that JLin’s is #9 with eFG% 51.8 and Kemba’s is #15 with eFG% 47.5%.

  • sws94

    It’s not my double standard, it’s how it works in many jobs. There’s a difference between my thinking and what the NBA and coaches may be looking for. As of now, yes, Lin went through a period of proving some things. My thinking that is right or wrong has nothing to do with what’s done in practice in the NBA. But I think Lin’s proven enough now, it is more getting chemistry with most of the team and Kemba’s the tough one in my opinion.

  • Rick Johnson

    Playing more with NBA Stats 5 – man lineups and compared same lineups using Lin vs Walker with no Jefferson. Pretty striking the differences. Pretty much what we have always know. JLin makes other players better if he has the ball in his hands. The difference is striking without Jefferson because they are no longer playing slow ball pass to Jefferson in the post.

    http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612766/lineups/advanced/?CF=GROUP_NAME*NE*Jefferson%7CMIN*G*5&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

  • LAJane

    It’s TMZ that sucks. (can I say that? against rules? it’s TMZ after all…)

  • LAJane

    wish I didn’t have to agree.

  • james brown

    sure it will be hard and maybe the last to gel with JLIN is KW because kemba needs to readjust his playing style to suit team ball..still with his own ISO but lesser to make the team cohesive and fun to watch…looking at him during previous games reminded me of Harden who only pass when he has no shot most of the time and leave only a handful of seconds to avoid TO…last game seems to show theres a change that changes can happen still.

  • Briiick

    The 6th lineup is a winner.

  • sws94

    Harden hasn’t changed 🙁

    Kemba isn’t as severe, but can he change? I’m not sure.

  • 1mtoldman

    oh i absolutely agree with this i mean its obviously a small sample size but just (if one could) watch (or remember) the (what was it one game?) mkg played; before and after he went down.

    no comparison. offense much more fluid. dead in the water with mkg and jefferson. much better w/0 jefferson yes but sometimes he can be useful for short spurts depending on who they’re playing but even before he went down (jefferson) they were getting away from using him much.

    but mkg yeah much better. and if you think lins minutes/useage/how used are bad now as one hornets site poster said: “if mkg were here lin wouldn’t be getting more than 15 minutes”.

  • 1mtoldman

    hornets fans knew that before the season started but seem to have forgotten it since hes shooting well for the first time in his carreer (wonder what the cause could be?) and the team is winning.

  • 1mtoldman

    they’d never do it; (knicks i mean)–but what i suggested earlier was a 3-way with melo going to l.a. (oh besides lala would never settle for the provinces of charlotte town); l.a. (suits lala) and some youngsters from la to charlotte and uh lets say lin, marvin and hawes (salary dump with hawes) to ny or actually originally i had al. yeah al. then dont have to pay him next time.

  • 1mtoldman

    you have some tough opposition here but channel that “gipper” spirit and keep up the good fight for truth justice and the american way.

  • adele

    But they have to put him in. Hornets need an all star vote for Kemba. No matter what we think, Kemba is a Hornets star this season. Sigh! It could have been Lin had they let him shine.

  • adele

    Yes, Kemba stats are fabricated. The Hornets organization are really intent on making him an all star. If you listen to the Hornets commentators and check their website, you can see and hear the constant promotion for Kemba.

  • adele

    Agree!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    That’s exactly what I’ve been telling folks here…If MKG is here, Lin would not even get to play 15 minutes.

    This is must likely a 1 year thing for Lin in Charlotte because once MKG is back, he will only play the back-up minutes that Kemba is resting…that would be like 12-13 minutes since Kemba plays 35mpg most night.

  • adele

    And what does that tell you about this organization? Luck might be on their side right now because Lin is such a very nice person, but lin is smarter this time (I hope and pray) and knows when to make his right decision when the time comes.

  • A guest

    He is not a fan !

  • Phillycheese

    You replied to yourself, so you’re saying you don’t know what you are talking about?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I tend to agree that it is likely that Kemba won’t keep up the high FG% and 3point%…and it will be interesting to see what Cliff does if it goes down….Does he cut down Kemba’s minutes by a few minutes per average, which is what we’ve been asking and let Lin get the additional 3-4 minutes per game.

    So far, Lin has been as good, if not better, than Kemba defensively….At worst, I don’t see a clear advantage for neither defensively…so right now, Kemba shooting % is what’s really driving his heavy minutes per game…I still feel Clifford should keep Kemba’s minutes at 31-32 on most night…even on nights when he’s shooting well because he doesn’t make his teammates better by dishing dimes.

  • TTNN
  • TTNN

    and Lin only had 30% time as P&R ball handler and Kemba has 47%.

  • james brown

    he sure did play the right way the last game..i think if he wanted really to win, he has to buy the new system but he has to understand that it entails a little sacrifice for it will affect his playing style for sure, but the profit will be generate high on him too!!!

  • TTNN

    Kemba was like this last season before his injury.

    They always thought if Kemba could shoot efficiently, the team will be good. But they forgot that this team is now way better than last season, thus Kemba has to change his playing style to help.Anytime Kemba is tryiing to take it ovr, he is stopping the flow of his teammates.

  • Brewkowski

    I don’t know… my hypothesis is that Lin did that with Kobe during games after the “piss on hydrant” game, running plays, passing the ball, etc and Kobe resented being told how to play the game by Lin.

  • Yascar
  • Singapore BB Fan

    Wow. Reliable info?

  • Yascar

    I don’t know for sure. My understanding is this guy is a reporter from Taiwan. He seems legit. Maybe our friends based in Taiwan know more about him?

  • james brown

    jLIN mentioned that they offered him 3 years contract but he declined it..JLIn confirmed it during some interviews before.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Lin’s Dad said so.

  • NONONO

    It tells me Bulls need PnR pg. Rose needs to go.

  • Acbc

    To a certain degree we can argue for both ways of thinking. What appears on the surface isn’t necessarily what’s going on. We’ll need a bigger sample size to know for sure what’s driving this Kemba-centric offence.

    The surface correlation is that Kemba is doing well because of usage rate and ball in hand. Kemba is the quarterback that controls the flow of the offence, ergo, he manipulates his own stats AND others. Our major criticism of Clifford’s offence is that he exhibits a kind of trickle down ideology in the way Kemba controls who scores and when. This is a debatable point that could go on forever. Depending on who you are a fan of, you’ll argue either way. What is disturbing to me and most of Lin fans is when the game is in hand, why does Clifford insist on continuing this Kemba-centric flow? It serves no other purpose except to make Walker more of a star. This is why I think something MUST be driving this type of wasteful time management for overall bench strength. It absolutely makes no sense to me, if you ASSUME that Clifford is an intelligent coach.

    Lin fans all know that if Lin had ball in hand to control the flow of scoring, everyone would get equitable touches and everyone participates in being multiple threats on offence. This is why multiple great coaches WILL go out of their way to take the ball out of his hands. They know how dangerous it is to let the Lin express come through carrying the whole team along. Walker is a direct recipient of that focus on Lin. A coach will gamble on Walker because they can calculate what his scoring could bring by himself. With Lin however, he is always an X factor with multiple prongs of attack, PLUS his own masters of chaos PG attack.

    It is what it is. In a couple of months time, we will know what’s going on for sure and we’ll know who is right about Clifford and Kemba.

  • NONONO
  • NONONO

    I think he might have got more than 2 offers (around 5 MIL+/- 1M). But he wants a bigger role (it means he could contribute more to the team ) ,instead of more money . He toke 2M with some promises from Clifford. I hope Clifford kept his promises.

  • Dorothy

    If using computer, we can also vote via Google search (to double the votes for Lin)
    Of course, there are Tweeter, FB, text, IG, even WeiBuo this year.

  • Chopz

    The “Lin Express”, i like it. Choo choo.

  • sws94

    There’s one thing, though. I saw Isiah Thomas last night on TNT talk about Rondo and why he didn’t like Dallas. Dallas was a system team, Rondo had to get the ball and run a system. George Karl gives Rondo the freedom to call what he wants. Kenny Smith showed how team mates will get out and run when Rondo gets the ball, that doesn’t happen much in Charlotte. Only occasionally.

    So Lin would still have to get the freedom to call his own plays and not have them relayed to him by the coaching staff. I’m not sure that’s the case. Kemba may due to the amount of time he’s been with Clifford.
    There may still be a process of Lin given the green light to call most of the plays. Batum? I think he may get to call the plays as Clifford trusts his instincts probably more than Kemba’s and at this point in the season, Lin’s as well.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    FUTHERMORE, I’m tired of trying to educate the dimwits who fall for the fake, ridiculous Kobe mythology put forth by Kobe and perpetuated by the MS sports media.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I believe it’s one of the top six teams lin mentioned it. Must be a lot more money so that’s why they wanted team option.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    FLOGGED! with an “o” not an “a.” smh

  • Dorothy

    Is this coming out now or it has been out sometime? Is Lin camp trying to remind C&C their promises to Lin?

  • Rick Johnson

    Perhaps Lin didn’t want to play that slow grind type game

  • sws94

    Agree.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Cliff convinced Lin that by giving a discount he could have a much bigger role than just backup PG. He would get a lot of minutes by also playing SG and he would have the potential to start or at least be sixth man who always finishes. Cliff also promised to run a lot of PnR plays for Lin at both positions. Instead Lin gets none of that: Not a starter. Low minutes. No Pnr big to work with. Hardly gets to run the point. Is mostly ignored by KW and NB. Often does not finish. Expected to play lock-down defense which may be why he injured his back.

    That’s why choosing the Hornets was a mistake. He gave a discount hoping to get more but ended up with much less than what a backup PG gets.

  • Dorothy

    I have been posting on Hornets FB that if they keep marginalize Lin like Rockets did, Hornets will follow Rockets steps to be the most hated NBA team in Asia by the end of this season.

  • heart

    Couldn’t say it any better. Unless Hornets change their course for the better of Lin, we have to keep repeating these Hornets ‘unfilled promises’ to let the world know and let the records be shown so that they cannot change the history of this season’s event in the future.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Hmm. My message to them (although I only post here) would be that the Hornets will not reach their full potential if they keep marginalizing Lin. For sure they already lost 2 games by not playing Lin correctly: Bulls and Cavs. They can go all the way to the Finals, but they have to let Lin play for at least 30 minutes with Lin being the sole PG for 15 minutes of those minutes.

  • heart

    Guys/gals, another easy way to vote is via google search NBA All Star Hornets Team
    1. Sign in to your google acct.
    2. Search on google for Hornets Team. All Hornets players pictures show up
    3. Click on the picture of players you want and submit.
    ***I clicked on Lin picture and press SUBMIT.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=NBA+Vote+All-Star&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=NBA+Vote+hornets&vtst=C4-202391-1

  • jeremy

    Couldnt agree more, he is not getting any of that.
    but team is winning and whatever Clifford is doing is working so can’t really blame Clifford
    a back up PG on a winning team is still better than a tanking team
    it’s a pity Lin is not given the reign to the 2nd unit like other teams back up PG but oh well what can you do? team is doing too well

  • Dorothy

    yes, this is even easier than go to nba webpage to vote, but I do both, + text + FB + my kids’ text + my kids computers + my kids FB LOL
    oh, and I set up an alarm on my phone, so that ever 24 hours, I will vote

  • jeremy

    they are 2nd in the east thou thats pretty impressive already
    but as a lin fan its no fun

  • sws94

    That doesn’t help Lin at all.

  • jeremy

    I dont think the Rockets are the most hated in Asia just because of Yao.

  • rookie75094

    You are one dedicated Jlin fan. .kudos

  • Dorothy

    look at the map, it was from July 2014, there is none for 2015, otherwise, I believe Lakers would replace Rockets.
    http://nextimpulsesports.com/2014/07/31/results-hated-nba-teams-state-poll-shock/

  • sws94

    There are no unfilled promises. The word promise wasn’t used for Lin. That’s a very specific word and intention and unless someone can find that in any exchanges with Lin and anyone in the Hornets organization, that it should not be used.

  • Dorothy

    depends on 1) how it was worded 2) how one defines “help”. The definition of help from a true Lin fan maybe different from others…

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    2nd and 8th seed are only separated by 1/2 game.

  • heart

    To the post below: Since my first post on this board, I caught onto your views right away in regards to Lin. Please don’t tell me what words I can and cannot use.

  • blubell

    I was about to post this too!
    I have couple of google accounts so I voted twice 🙂

  • Whitman Lam

    How do you vote with QQ?

  • Dorothy

    I actually don’t think I am a “fan”. I am never a fan of any celebrity in my life. Lin is the first celebrity I ever “support”. Like when I went to Charlotte to have Lin’s signature, I really did not care whether i own an item with Lin’s signature or not. I cared more about how many people showed up there to show his new team his market value. I see my kids in Lin and try to support Lin and fight the discrimination Lin faces.

  • Dorothy

    click QQ icon, the instruction will become for QQ

    http://vote.nba.com/howto/

  • blubell

    I agree. I “support” him as fellow brother in Christ.

  • sws94

    Lin’s fans are awesome but overzealous at times. Have to be careful with team sites especially when team is winning and exceeding expectations.

  • blubell
  • Dorothy

    webattorney, I am calling you out. I am waiting for you to donate to JLinFoundation and see if I can beat you again this year. No pressure though 🙂

  • sws94

    I’m not telling you anything. If you say he had promises and can’t produce what that word means, then it isn’t the right word. Promise is something that means you will do what you said you’ll do. Saying we plan to do something with you is different, as plans can change as situations are fluid. I simply asked anyone using that word to show it because you often use it in the position that Clifford lied to Lin and misled him. I don’t think anything was “promised” to Lin.

  • jeremy

    Yah doing that will only get fans more and more annoyed with Lin

  • Dorothy

    No, I only posted when the team lost and marginalized Lin. No worry, I am seasoned with this type of things 🙂

  • blubell

    Yes.

  • adele

    I salute you. I’m the same way.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    How do you know the word “promise” wasn’t used? Were you siting at the table with Cliff and Lin or listening in on their private telephone conversations? For all we know the word promise was used. We know that according to what Lin has divulged to the public, Coach Clifford said, “He will play faster and many PNRs.”

    Lin: He knows clearly how I like to play. He and I talked for 2 or 3 times on the phone, about 2 or 3 hours total. When I joined the Hornets, he and I (and sws94) had dinner together. We talked for another 2 hours, so altogether we’ve talked for about 5 hours. He really likes me a lot, so I appreciate it so much and I feel this is a great choice. He emphasized if I play well and the team needs me to start, then he wouldn’t limit me to a bench player. The coach also said he will let me play with Kemba for a long time and even if I don’t play well in Charlotte, he will give me a lot of room to play with mistakes. When the coach said we will play more PNRs next season, I asked him why they didn’t play much last season. He told me to look at the players they got this year. Most of them are good at shooting 3s. When the shooting is great, that will create a lot of space, leading to more PNRs. The Hornets said they need 2 players who are great at PNRs, one is Kemba and I can play PNRs with him when we are on court together. Then by talking on the phone, I think Coach Clifford really understands me, and he will play faster and many PNRs.

  • adele

    I love your assertive efforts. Thank you.

  • adele

    Keep it up Dorothy. I second your opinion.

  • adele

    Heart, my advise, just disregard the comment he makes and you will have a peaceful blogging experience.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    So you know the word promised was not used and you know he only said he PLANS to use JLin according to his strengths. How do you know all these details? In any case you’re worse than Humpty Dumpty when it comes to words. Backup, second string, bench player are not worse than starter in your opinion. Those words can mean anything you like. But promise! Lin wasn’t promised anything! Only plans which can always change! Lin agreed to sign for a discount because he believed Cliff’s “promises” whether or not that word was used explicitly. Lin trusted Cliff would tread him fairly and not just decide to change plans without any regard to Lin’s interests. There is no doubt that Lin feels his trust was betrayed.

  • Rick Johnson

    Nathan Gottlieb
    ‏@zukovka
    Good story by Carlos Diaz who makes the case Lin being wasted when playing with Kemba. http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-east/southeast/charlotte-hornets/hornets-jeremy-line-kemba-walker-lineups-playing-together/
    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/675381665041092608

  • sws94

    Great article. This is how to present to the Hornets to use Lin more and have him create more for Kemba and others when they play together.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    More and more people starting to see what most Lin’s fans have been saying since weeks ago.

  • sws94

    “There is no doubt that Lin feels his trust was betrayed”

    Based on what? His latest interview doesn’t convey that. He says some of what was discussed is being implemented and it is a process of the two learning more about each other in having more implemented.

  • Briiick

    Kemba can play with Lin as demonstrated in preseason games. I think the problem is he has been competitive towards Lin since the season started and iced out Lin.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    When stats do matter.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think with Jefferson out it will be more apparent Kemba needs to share the ball. The 5 man lineups with Kemba without Jefferson don’t look very good with the current bigs.

  • Briiick

    I am glad Kemba did pass to Lin during last game but he needs to learn from Lin and does a lot more.

  • linfan

    Yes, but Clifford knows that Lin is one of his best defenders and has publicly said so.

  • sws94

    The team hasn’t needed him to start but once but may as the season progresses. As of now, he does more with the 2nd unit than the first. The game is fluid, some of these concepts are in play, others not as much. It depends on Kemba too how much he can play. Others have noticed Lin has had mistake-filled games yet closed the games anyway.

    To me, this is a case of you wanting something now you aren’t seeing and extracting that Lin is maybe less satisfied than he may be. Also asking me what is not is a specious argument. If you state a word was used, then show it. You haven’t done so. You are speculating it may have been used which doesn’t support that word being used.

  • sws94

    I just hope they have leads in most games. Because when they don’t, Kemba shoots more. That’s what he’s used to doing. Sometimes you have to be the go-to guy and score and Kemba isn’t always wrong to do that but it is a delicate balance of having it become the Kemba show vs. involving your team mates. And the Kemba/Lin usage with Lin setting up Kemba at times has really yet to develop. It’s happening with Batum.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    We’ve seen it many times in Houston playing along side with Harden, Lin can shoot but I hate his catch and shoot unless clock ran out.

  • sws94

    I don’t totally agree. Lin shot better in preseason. I don’t know if it is competitiveness or just plain old Kemba habits of not involving team mates and Lin is one of them.

  • Hope

    We know jlin will heat up really soon. What will be the excuse then for not starting him over kw? Id like to see team making him an important piece and treat him fairly. After all, most points and most assists in first 5 starts in the HISTORY of the association. He should deserve 1 chance.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    You’re reading comprehension is barely detectable. Based on Lin’s enthusiastic expectations for this season vs. the reality.

    And based on his latest interview, you declared, “Lin has spoken!” You are a fool. Lin is extremely diplomatic and he needs to make the best of his bad situation. Lin would never use the media to express his grievances in public. Let me translate for you:

    “some of what was discussed is being implemented and it is a process of the two learning more about each other in having more implemented.”

    which means:

    “Cliff has broken almost all of his promises to me. But I keep reminding him and cajoling with the hope that he’ll have the decency to fulfill at least some of the commitments he made before I signed.”

    Now do you understand?

  • Hope

    20+/10/30+

  • sws94

    How many times do you have to be warned to stop with the personal attacks? Get self control or I will aggressively pursue the mods to take action against you like a few days ban. The personal stuff has to end. If you can’t disagree with me about things then you prove that you can’t follow the simple guidelines of this board.

    Being insulting to me is not going to make me see things your way. We can even agree to disagree. But stop with the condescension and insults please.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    We can’t expect them to start JLin at PG over Kemba. That is really asking too much and that was never “promised.” What they can do is start him at SG or at the very least let him average 30 mpg with 15 min as the sole PG when Kemba is off the court.

  • Hope

    Is that going to be the EXCUSE (the never promised)?

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Go ahead. “aggressively pursue the mods”

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    As said by Lin, his goal is not to replace Kemba but to play along side with him. Starting PJ is out of mind.

  • JLin will shoot better soon when/if any nagging back issues go away.

    As for starting over KW, it’s probably not realistic because:
    1. Rich Cho announced after signing that JLin will anchor the bench;
    2. Essentially 1-yr $2.3M deal vs. Kemba’s $48M/4yr deal.
    Hornets will not devalue their investment in Kemba (even if in the unlikeliest chance to trade Kemba, they have to start him to inflate stats)

    The best scenario for JLin this season is to get noticed during deep playoff run so his market value will increase significantly next season. JLin rightfully declined low-backup 3-yr ($3-4M/yr for 3 yrs) at Memphis because he believes he can get more offer in the new NBA salary cap next season.

    JLin might start a few games if Kemba is not available or even contribute significantly during some playoff wins.
    That would be good expectations for JLin fans.

  • sws94

    Yes, and he’ll be in the OT lineup if the games come to that. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t be. Lin, Kemba, Batum, then maybe Lamb or Marvin and Cody. That’s if the team stays as it is.

    Lin would have started if Kemba didn’t play 2 games ago.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    You really cannot read. I told you they made commitments to Lin before he signed whether the word “promise” was used explicitly or not. The team does need him to start because they have lost very winnable games (such as Cavs and Bulls) by not playing Lin enough. They most certainly do not need PJ to start, do they?

  • Rick Johnson

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    Hoverboards, selfies, architecture and lots of love from fans. My photos from our trip to China http://www.theplayerstribune.com/troy-daniels-hornets-china-trip/ … @playerstribune
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  • sws94

    Why should I respond to someone who says you can not read? Post flagged.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    That would require demoting Kemba. Lin doesn’t even want that. If they just did half of what they promised we would all be in Linsanity heaven!

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    That’s great! I post for those who can understand.

  • True, JLin will get his chances.

    I’m glad he has figured out what will earn him 25+min PT (9-10FGAs, great defense, rebounding)
    Once he’s comfortable and 100% healthy, he’ll hit his stride in his shooting.
    Can’t wait when it happens!

  • sws94

    His shooting may be improving a little bit now. I’m not sure what’s wrong with him but I hope he gets healthier soon. Not affecting his D much, but it is his offense.

  • The challenge has been thrown =)

    @webattorney:disqus , I know you’re clutch under pressure just like JLin.

    You can give your best!

    #WorthyCause #FriendlyCompetition

  • Well-said, I also don’t know what to do with JLin’s signature on jersey & etc.

    I think many of us just want to support him because he’s such an important role model for the next generation. Persevering and triumphing over this discrimination would be important lessons for our kids and even us

  • Uh-Oh

    Time to log in my Twitter account that only use during certain time of the year. Hehehe~~~ˊ_>ˋ

  • heart

    Thank you Adele.

  • NONONO

    We all believe Lin would do much better when he was given better chance (role and minutes) . But Hornets is at much better position (#2) than their Owner/FO/coaches/players/fans expected. I am sure they are satisfied with making playoff this year and try to be the top team next year with MKG and maybe AL trade. I wonder Clifford or someone who has more the control would care about any promise to Lin at all. I hope they realize that Lin is the key part of the success, and they are still only one game away from #8,

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    A lot of people seem to think that since the Hornets are in second place, they have no reason to change a thing. But if you look at the standings, there are about 11 teams that are really neck and neck. If a team like the Hornets goes on a short losing streak it will soon find itself at the bottom of the barrel. There are at least two lost games that would have been won is JLin was allowed to close and perhaps several more if Lin were used with max efficiency.

    I think the biggest argument for the Hornets to use Lin more effectively is based on their performance against elite teams. When the Hornets faced the Spurs and the Warriors, they were not even competitive. And it’s not good enough to play Lin more only “when needed.” To compete against the Warriors, the Hornets need to be using Lin effectively on a regular basis so the teamwork and team chemistry will be at the highest possible level.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    .5 game from 8.

  • Sundown

    Nathan and Carlos are also Lin fans. No controversy brewing anywhere in the general NBA world.

  • I’m suspecting he has chronic lower back injury after seeing him grimacing in the video above.
    I remember watching him in person doing the drill pregames without problems last season.

    If yes, it makes sense that his shooting in the 2nd half has been worse after the back is tightened.
    We’re speculating here but it’s weird that he consistently shot well in 1st half when he checked in then got worse. Sitting too long on bench probably didn’t help the back to be warm

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Exactly. 3 1/2 games from oblivion.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    ….and 61 games more to play.

  • heart

    Me too.

  • Rick Johnson

    Mike Trudell‏@MikeTrudell

    Here’s the special Lakers version of Monopoly created to give as a gift to Lakers season ticket holders: https://instagram.com/p/_JCKJQy78y/

    https://twitter.com/mtg_law_etc/status/675386981304524800

  • Briiick

    Agreed. The real challenge (thus the opportunity for Lin to shine) will come in the 2nd half of the season, when the defense tightens up and all teams try to find a way through the small exit.

  • CJSHYY
  • Briiick

    The Winner.

  • real-dsb

    20 min, 10 ast, 30 pts, yes!

  • Acbc

    That’s not a function of the system IMO. It has more to do with the age of the team and that Dirk is too old to run. The second reason is that Karl likes an up tempo game and also they are a young team.

  • Rzo Vlade

    whats the fuse about someones hair or style……are those thing affecting their lives thats why they are so into it………

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Based on Lin’s enthusiastic expectations for this season vs. the reality.

    And based on his latest interview, you declared, “Lin has spoken!” Lin is extremely diplomatic and he needs to make the best of his bad situation. Lin would never use the media to express his grievances in public. Let me translate for you:

    “some of what was discussed is being implemented and it is a process of the two learning more about each other in having more implemented.”

    which means:

    “Cliff has broken almost all of his promises to me. But I keep reminding him and cajoling with the hope that he’ll have the decency to fulfill at least some of the commitments he made before I signed.”

    Now do you understand?

  • sws94

    I’m not answering to you understand? That’s condescending. There’s no need for us to discuss Clifford anymore, I don’t agree with your stand, won’t, and no amount of your condescending comments will make me do so. It shouldn’t be that important to you whether I agree with you or not.

  • Rick Johnson

    No MDA to Phili to reunite with Lin next year then?

    https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/675423712229916673

  • Hope

    How about the nets

  • DX

    Maybe MDA will go to Lakers.

  • NONONO

    Lin has no chance to play major role in Hornets. With one more top 5 pick, I think Lin can help 76ers make playoffs in one or two seasons. Lin does need a coach. He needs freedom to play his style.

  • Briiick

    I guess the owner still wants to tank because they have been making a lot of money (paid by the league – low salary cost) at the expense of the league because no one wants to watch 76ers. The league can’t stand being taken advantage of like that, what a joke NBA.

  • Spot

    Yep. No Philly then. Or at least not with MDA

  • LinMad
  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Calm down Sws94. You’re becoming unhinged. That was NOT a new comment. That was the same old comment with the parts about you being a fool with bad reading comprehension edited out. And as I posted a long time ago, I know you are close-minded and not worth talking to. I post not for your benefit but too counter your slanderous propaganda.

    BTW, do you remember upvoting this comment?

    “We get that you hate Clifford already. You repeated over and over again and over again. Shut the f up already.”

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/jlinportal/g19_chi_cha_game_thread/#comment-2395519510

    Doesn’t it seem hypocritical of you to upvote such a comment but you want to aggressively pursue the mods about my defense of JLin?

  • new MEM game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g22-mem-cha-game-thread/

    1. Was it the suspected back injury that that affected JLin’s shooting in the 2nd half lately? Or was it even the Samurai-Bun hairstyle? Let’s hope JLin stays healthy to be comfortable shooting 9-10 shots and play his defense in order to get 25+min of playing time

    2. Hornets is #2 in the East but a loss could send them back to #7 so this game is very important in the competitive Eastern Conference where #8 is only 1.5 game behind #1

    Interestingly, JLin will face Memphis Grizzlies who offered him 3-yr contract (without player option, possibly in $3-4M range) that he declined. 2-yr contract with player option is more appealing due to higher NBA salary cap next season. It’s smart for JLin to decline the offer, especially in a slow pace system like the Grizzlies.

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s continue to shoot at least 8FG & 4 FT attempts. Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens

  • spiderman

    lol

  • A guest

    Same here. We support lin because of the decrimination. He has No others to support him. Only us.

  • adele

    I know. But I just disregard him a long time ago. He responded to my blogs but I don’t bother to respond nor read on something that I don’t have any interest to begin with.