Jeremy Lin: 1st in PPG and FG% among 2016 NBA FA PG Starter Stats

Hoops Hype recently released 2016 NBA Free Agent Point Guard rankings with Jeremy Lin as the 3rd ranked PG  behind Mike Conley and Rajon Rondo. His rank was climbing up after his strong performance to close the season and in the playoff.

But how does Jeremy Lin compare statistically in the Top 10 FA PGs when they start? Who should be the most desirable Free Agent based on their starter stats?

Here is the 2015-16 starter stats for these Top 10 FA PGs comparing their Points/game, Assists/game and shooting efficiency (FG%, 3FG%, TS%, FT%) plus the number of games and minutes/game
201516 Lin FA PGsNot surprisingly, Jeremy Lin is ranked:

  • 1st in Points/Game, FG% and
  • 2nd in 3FG% and TS% (True Shooting %)

His 4.8 ast/gm is ranked 7th which is understandable since he often played Shooting Guard (63% according to Nylon Calculus stats) next to Kemba Walker as the primary PG in the Hornets

This confirms that Jeremy Lin is arguably the Top 1 or 2 as the Free Agent PG in 2016 and he has higher ceiling since he only played Point Guard position 37% of the time.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes

  • DX

    No

  • BobbyH

    Yes, 3rd

  • zxcvb

    No question he’s elite when used properly. Lesser backups like Reggie Jackson, Dragic and Lowry were given endless chances to succeed with the ball in their hands, but Lin has never had that chance since MDA in New York.

    But after Lin’s big game performances this year, especially against the Cavs, Spurs and in the playoffs, it looks like that’s going to change. I’m hoping to hear some words from Kenny Atkinson in the coming days, weeks now that Hawks are out.

  • Joe what do you know

    Did Lin really started 13 games this season? Wow it felt way less than that for me. And you know it’s a sad situation when you see Felton starting way more than Lin…

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The one reason that Lin’s assist rate goes down is because of coach Clifford. He would rather his PG to brick his shots than turning the ball over with a pass. There is no one in the Hornets team that can catch and make the basket like Ed Davis or Tyson Chandler. Frank Kaminsky is not that reliable after he received Lin’s pass. When you add these together, Lin doesn’t get the assists that he deserves.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Does anyone have the list of games that Lin started. Lin started to play against Raptors, Cavaliers and more.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I think Kemba and Batum were out in those 13 games.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    what happened to Loretta Tang’s post? was i the only person to see it.. spooky

  • David Kim

    Linsanity 2.0 coming soon!!!!!!!

  • CJSHYY
  • Brent Yen

    Only one game was as a PG tho

  • CJSHYY

    Almost forgot about Lawson is also FA….

    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/729483025306673152

  • DrewBear2

    I posted this a while ago in another thread:

    Jeremy started 13 games this season. He replaced Nic 11 times, Kemba & Cody once each.

    November 20, 2015 Philadelphia 76ers: replaced Cody in the starting lineup, blowout win.
    29 minutes, 9 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists

    December 17, 2015 Toronto Raptors: replaced Nic, won by 10 points in overtime. Linsanity! Player of the Game.
    47 minutes, 35 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists

    January 2, 2016 OKC: replaced Nic, lost by 19.
    34 minutes, 15 points, 1 rebounds, 4 assists

    January 4, 2016 GSW: replaced Nic, lost by 10.
    31 minutes, 11 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assists

    January 6, 2016 Phoenix Suns: replaced Nic, lost by 9.
    29 minutes, 15 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists

    January 9, 2016 LAC: replaced Nic, lost by 14.
    41 minutes, 26 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists

    January 22, 2016 Orlando Magic: replaced Nic, won by 4.
    30 minutes, 7 points, 1 rebounds, 4 assists

    January 23, 2016 Knicks: replaced Nic, won by 13. Player of the Game? Kemba also had a good game.
    40 minutes, 26 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists

    January 25, 2016 Sacramento Kings: replaced Nic, won by 1 double overtime. Double-double. Player of the Game? Kemba also had a good game.
    50 minutes, 20 points, 7 rebounds, 11 assists

    January 31, 2016 Lakers: replaced Nic, won by 19
    22 minutes, 6 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists

    February 3, 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers: replaced Kemba, won by 9. Linsanity! Player of the Game.
    32 minutes, 24 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists

    April 5, 2016 Toronto Raptors: replaced Nic, won by 6. Linsanity? Player of the Game. This is the second time this season Jeremy had success against Toronto.
    40 minutes, 21 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists

    April 13, 2016 Orlando Magic: Final game of the regular season, replaced Nic, blowout win.
    21 minutes, 10 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists

  • Brent Yen

    Who?

  • CJSHYY

    Ty Lawson.

  • Arsenium12 .

    This is from basketball-reference.com … Click to enlarge.
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  • John Focker

    Ty Lawson’s stock went down dramatically after playing next to Harden. People don’t appreciate Lin nearly enough for playing as well as he did (and surviving both Harden AND Beverley) during his tenure with HOU.

  • CJSHYY

    Really upset OKC will win this game 4. smh!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Brent Yen’s humor LOL

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I bet no PG wants to go to Rox plays next to Harden…. smh!

  • alain gervais

    Spurs play a ton of iso ball. They’ve change a ton.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Maybe bc big three are too old so…. plus KD got more calls…

    https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/729485925349244928

  • alain gervais

    I miss the fast pace everyone touch the ball spurs.

  • CJSHYY

    Spurs played so well in game 1 after that Aldridge became the focus for the team…. I started to worry maybe OKC will beat Spurs? NO…. hope not….

  • John Focker

    Refs stole G2 from Spurs, much like they did G2 from Clippers last year.

  • John Focker

    Daryl Morey’s PG Sematary…Part 3.

  • Lin Dunn

    NBA TV comment that signing Ty Lawson was a big mistake by Rox. Lawson and Rondo had the most chaos and drama among the top PGs listed.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. Spurs should be 3-1 not 2-2 now. Maybe NBA likes to have at least game 6 not game 4 to end of this series.

  • CJSHYY

    Cav also played well in this year’s playoff… maybe they really have chance to get the ring.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i think they have to because TP is getting too slow and they have LMA to fall back to for iso

  • CJSHYY

    TP played well in game 3 & 4. But Duncan & Ginobili were pretty much no show….

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Great Let me summarize:

    After the first start when Nic and Kemba running the show with a blowout win against the weakest team in NBA, Lin started without Nic and became the star of the game against the mighty Raptors.
    After that from Jan 2 – 9, the team lost 4 straight games with Lin replacing Nic against 3 strong teams, OKC, GSW, LAC in full strength, then Phoenix.

    Then from Jan 22 – 31, the team won the next 4 games with Lin replacing Nic against teams Magic, Knicks, Kings and Lakers. Lin was the star of the games against Knicks and Kings.

    Then Lin replaced Kemba and won against the Cavaliers convincingly on Feb 3.
    April 5, Lin helped the Hornets win convincingly against Raptors with 7 assists and 21 points.
    Then the last game against Magic was a blowout win.

    Conclusion: At the end of the season, once Lin got used to starting, it’s all wins against teams like
    Magic (2), Knicks, Kings, Lakers, Cavaliers, & Raptors.

    The win-loss record is 9-4. Pretty interesting with only 4 losses between Jan 2 – 9.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Against the Cavaliers.

  • sws94
  • CJSHYY

    This is funny. I really think PJ did a very lousy job for NYK.

    https://twitter.com/DaBigTyme/status/729036334950535168

  • CJSHYY

    Check this for fun….What Mark Zuckerberg talked about his SMALL com…LOL!

    https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/727171681211535360

  • John Focker

    I’m 100% certain that Ty Lawson thought as much of his choice to go with the Rox, now that his career is in semi-ruins.

  • james brown

    revisiting linsanity first game and what asst coach Atkinson did say regarding the first game lin play ..
    https://youtu.be/2GZofgm4OwA

  • CJSHYY

    He should have his press conference w Nets soon.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    Poor Joerger from now on has to deal w Cousins….

  • zxcvb

    Well, he IS going back to New York. Gotta go back to that NYC style.

    #BrookLin

  • freemind

    ‘The win-loss record is 9-4. Pretty interesting with only 4 losses between Jan 2 – 9’

    Lin did not play 12/30 & 1/1 due to ankle injury so he was playing thru injury in those 4 games between 1/2-1/9…. who knows what the outcome could be if he was injury free.

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Like Linsanity period? I like this clean cut style.

  • Acbc

    As some have stated correctly, the Curry effect on the shooting of other PGs this year has made it better than ever. Is it just our eye test or is it something else?

    When I said
    “I know my shots will be better next year”. How does Lin know this? He believes it, trusts in its process, feel it take in muscle memory. It must always come from that belief or under stress of play, coaches and fans, he’d have given up on that new shooting form long ago.”
    It is just like the Curry effect.

    Once upon a time the 4 minute mike was considered unbreakable even dangerous to a human body. No one could do it until someone did and then the following year many others did it too. Why? They be,I even it was possible. Once the impossible is shown to be possible, the mental cage we lock our potentials in is broken and we become that new measure.

    This is why great athletes have not just good physical attributes, they have mental strength as well to believe beyond what others tell them their limits are. It’s Lin’s ability to believe that makes him so tough mentally in high pressure situations. It’s that incredible mental strength to withstand what everyone tells you you are and to keep faith in the dreams of who you want to be.

    It must begin with a belief, an absolute self belief.

  • joy

    No, that’s from last year! I don’t think Lin will be back to this hair style. It looks out of date – to me. LOL

  • CJSHYY

    Last year…. Really?

  • joy

    He posted it on his fb on Mother’s day last year. Haha

  • CJSHYY

    I thought he really had hair cut…. LOL!

  • JFirst

    I’m still hoping that the Warriors win the championship, but this is an interesting read on the Cavs’ recent success:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/2670/kevin-love-leads-cavs-into-the-conference-finals-with-tyronn-lues-talk-on-his-mind

    “[I] just said, ‘Kevin, Kyrie [Irving] and Bron (LeBron James), each night you guys got to know what to expect out of each other,'” Lue recalled. “‘Until you all do that, we aren’t going to be able to win.’

    “And I said, ‘Kevin, you got to be more aggressive. Tell LeBron, I’m a bad m—–f—– too, so throw me the ball.’ Be aggressive. Run the floor. If you’re open, we got to throw you the ball. You got to demand the basketball and I said, ‘Score the ball and be aggressive.'”

    However, the KEY here is, as Love said: “Ty has played with, and had to go against, a lot of bad m—-f——. So to get that, especially from your head coach, it’s a lot of confidence.”

    Hope Jeremy gets full coach support and confidence in his next team!

  • JFirst

    I don’t remember which year, but it’s definitely an old one. I remember the cotton candy 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I really think Cav played well in playoff this year… I hope it’s either GSW or Spurs win the ring this year. But I am worry about Spurs now…. hope they can beat OKC for next 2 games.

    https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/729498222314455040

  • joy

    The most recent hairstyle! Who knows maybe he’ll have a new style in the coming Asia trip. 🙂 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1b515f07827dacf91f2e7959203ccce0601532f856beec4631529a6318ae105.jpg

  • JFirst

    Doubt he will cut it until he (they) get to whatever hairstyle the group is aiming for. It would be anti-climactic if he were to just lop it off lol

  • JFirst

    Skip is so hang up on “star calls.” I just want fair calls …

  • JFirst

    sorry. can’t help laughing. you should view and review everything brent writes with suspicion lol

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    man, this makes me wanna rewatch Linanity games

  • steven ko

    biggest mistake for Lawson is to forgo his 13 million player option for next season to allow the trade to H-town. dude could have stayed in Denver and opted in for next season and get paid…

  • Rick Johnson

    infinity88 ‏@linfinity88 4h4 hours ago

    @JLin7 is back to California. He loves wearing socks & #adidas sandals to walk around… lol 📸: Walter R

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/729510593372127235

  • JLin Fan from Australia

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    I want to emphasize “positively” bringing together JLin fans. Even if you aren’t obviously breaking any site rules but if your posts are too negatives, your post will be deleted and/or you will be banned as well.

    So, this is the ONLY and LAST warning to all posters. If we, any mod, see any poster that doesn’t respect the vision nor the site rules: http://www.jlinportal.com/website-rules-must-read/, with no further warning and/or any mercy, we either delete the post and/or ban the poster for good.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Daryl Morey’s saga is soon be a thing in the past after his buddy buddy Sam Hinkie got fired. His stock is falling falling. Last I heard about him is Rockets is interviewing MDA as the coach of Rockets.

  • james brown

    i’m watching the jazz game now and jlin first game as a starter pg and loving nyk fans loved him..though with many TO, coach MDA kept jeremy inside to control the game..this game was without melo and stoudemire playing.

  • Kwok Wai Lai
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The one thing that makes Lin special is he completely dominates a game with all his teammates involved. He fires up the team. Of course the coach didn’t allow him to do it often enough last season and it’s not his fault.

  • John Focker

    Yes, the mods have been generous to a fault, and while civilized fans behave themselves for the most part, many have abused your generosity and walked all over you. If anything this hammer came along a bit late, but better late than never.
    Power to the MODS!!!

  • John Focker

    Many hints (or poking fun) in this photo:
    1) “Net” behind him at a unnatural angle for shooting hoops, placement obviously intentional.
    2) Crazy hair an homage to Iverson’s? (Sixers)
    3) “Two” choices come FA, or “Twenty million” a year for the next contract?

    I’m sure he knows what kind of rumors are floating around, and is having a good laugh at our expense. 🙂

  • John Focker

    MDA applying for Rox is PR stunt/fluff. Morey must be desperate.

  • zxcvb

    As a starter this year, Lin shot 46% from 3 on nearly 4 attempts per game. That’s outstanding. During preseason, Lin was flat-out dazzling with his jumper — stepback, behind-the-back, midrange, long-range. His form is fine.

    Lin won’t make excuses, but it’s clear what the only real “problem” is: he’s a rhythm shooter and needs the ball in his hands. There’s always room for improvement, but I’m not worried about his shot (nor is Jeremy!). I’m only worried about him getting the fair chance that he’s earned at least twice now.

  • FC

    Is there a way to make this post sticky as a reminder?

  • Brent Yen

    I have already featured it….but that’s about it. Disqus is not really a fully featured forum format.

  • zxcvb

    Not exactly “proof,” but it goes against MDA taking over in Philly:
    https://twitter.com/sixers/status/729634082351624197

    Vast majority of draft lottery reps aren’t coaches, so Bryan Colangelo didn’t have to pick him. Quick Google search shows that Brian Shaw, who got fired in 2015, attended the draft lottery in 2014. But he still got 50+ games into the next season.

    Brooklyn was and is my favorite landing spot for Lin and this is pushing me further in that direction. Bryan is pumping the brakes on his dad’s plan. Guess he doesn’t want to be “the bad guy.”

  • vincent

    come on…. best case scenario then MDA becomes associate head coach for the nets lol

  • BobbyH

    Too many chefs in the kitchen.

  • freemind

    ‘Jeremy Lin knows what his fans think. How could he not? They bark complaints about his coaches and teammates at him daily on Twitter and Facebook ………Any choice he makes carries with it the burden of a massive fan base — beyond the rabid hundreds, he has a following across the globe’

    https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/729667921753079808

  • Arsenium12 .
  • CJSHYY

    I hope MDA can get the Pacers HC job.

  • Brent Yen

    LMAO…..so poorly written

  • freemind

    besides the exit interviews they have no fresh Lin news so what do they do? snoop out social media for news 🙂

  • Brent Yen

    Well deserved

  • BobbyH

    Yep, shuffling Lin’s words around to fulfill his own premises.

  • Michael

    Coming from you that would make me cry if I was that writer..lol.

  • Barry Allen

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  • Barry Allen

    Mods are great here, keep most of the trolls out.

  • Barry Allen

    I don’t agree. The Hornets are a fringe playoff team at best, mainly because of the way they play Lin, and overused Kemba’s low FG% and lack of defense.

    Put Lin with 4 decent players and he will get them to the Playoffs easily playing team ball.

  • David Kim

    Both nets and sixers have good players. They can make playoff with lin

  • Maknusia

    —-plus——————————————————–

  • Barry Allen

    Not much you can do with Melo in the middle there.

    He did make a good decision with Porzingis tho.

  • Maknusia

    @Dinoneseus:disqus must have been the culprit …making all this ruckus and chaos while I was away!

  • Maknusia

    Jeremy Lin Works Out With Kenny Atkinson Pre-Game (Miami)

  • Maknusia

    Another video of his off season workout with Phil Wagner, Kenny Atkinson, and Doc Scheppler

    Jeremy Lin – Episode 2 The Offseason

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets was a lousy team last season. They just has delusion about themselves now. LOL!

  • Maknusia

    I think they had a good team (that includes Lin)…but agree they are delusional if they dont maintain the core team for next season

  • Brent Yen

    The whole article sounds like he assume this team will be as good without Lin.

  • Brent Yen

    lmao

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think this team will be good next season bc just look at how they vs Heat in game 7 can tell….Plus Batum is not even sure will come back. I think he maybe will not be back either.

  • CJSHYY

    This guy just use Lin to get the click. Don’t do it for him. Trash.

  • Brent Yen

    Since Lin will be gone and at least CLT was good to Lin somewhat……I probably will just forget about them anyway..lol

  • Brent Yen

    He was actually one of the better. More positive toward Lin. I guess we will just criticize his points, not himself.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t agree more.

  • Jamie

    Nice, this year he deserved it.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’m not sure about Sixers making the playoff even with Lin.

    I think Nets would have the much better chance to make it with Lin because they have a top center that can score and can also block shots.

    They also have a good shooter in Bogdanovic at Sg who can shoot like Steve Novak….

    Hollis-Jefferson is already a decent defender at 21, but needs to improve his outside shot.

    So the Nets have better players so if Lin has a choice, I’d rather he pick Nets…..Sixers are way too young and guys like Okafor and Noel will clog the middle and hinder Lin’s drive to the basket.

  • freemind
  • Maknusia

    yup…no dispute there! 🙂

  • Jamie

    yah yah keep making excused and enjoy your long summer next year

  • freemind

    Google Fun Fact.
    Jeremy Lin ranked #44 in top searched athletes April 2016.
    Jeremy Lin peaked at #1 spot (month)
    Jeremy Lin ranked top 10 past 3 months

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Seems Lin will have more options. Lin should go to the team that is willing to pay him most. His position will be secured with the amount of salary received.. This is the rule of NBA. Your salary determines your role in the team. Then next is your performance to make good with the salary.

  • Maknusia

    Unless its a tanking team…lol

  • 22cents

    With a torn meniscus and still playing?
    That is not a smart move for a professional athlete.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s that what Lin had back to NYK…?

  • Brent Yen

    I would say that only applies to the big 3 of the team. Exhibition A: Lin’s HOU stint. Exhibition B: Lamb this yr

  • Brent Yen

    You can get into playoff if you can run very fast. However, once entered the playoff…it is another story.

  • xeroid

    He probably torn it in game 6, and Clifford played him in game 7?

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe that’s why they played so bad in game 7 bc they wanted to end of this season ASAP? Sure can’t let Lin take them to ECF….

  • Maknusia

    meniscus are not too bad for short term game unlike torn ligament…but it still disrupts when one stop and go or had cooled down

  • Maknusia

    yup…the severity is different

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin won’t be happy if he is not given the minutes and the role of making plays. The only insurance of that is a much higher salary for multi-years. For teams which want his service bad enough will give him the resources and opportunities to succeed. He won’t be treated like the dispensable with huge salary.

    The only option for him is to go for the highest bidder with the best coaching staff that will allow to run plays centered on him.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Exactly..Lin was able to average 13ppg on his first year with Harden and than averaged 12.ppg on his second year and that’s while coming off the bench for half that year.

    So when you compare Lin’s 2 years to Lawson, it makes Lin a super-star…But hey, Rockets fan deserve it since they felt Lin was their biggest problem and couldn’t wait to get rid of him.

  • CJSHYY

    So Kemba’s condition is mind?

  • Maknusia

    not sure,…..since it was not mentioned…but its the same knee that he had previous surgery on

  • takeme2cruz

    Both KW and Batum should have sat out game 6 or limited minutes.

  • CJSHYY

    I see. I really think he should take a rest & let Lin to in charge but this is NBA. He sure wanted to secure his position…. but if that happened for 2nd time…. not good sign then, just IMO.

  • Maknusia

    it wouldnt be his call…the med team and coaching staff decides collectively

    Lin had the same thing as well….only when the swelling was severe, did they announce it….even that was not immediate, its only after letting him to rest couple of days and during the re-trial, he felt sharp pain although the swellings reduced.

  • Maknusia

    the interesting predicament now would be …having a good backup PG would get higher priority….

  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The prerequisite for consistent performance is a consistent role and minutes that Lin hasn’t received.

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe bc they end of playoff now.

  • CJSHYY

    Team always ask you to play & have the surgery after season end. But I think Lin is right to not play bc he’s health for 4 years.

  • takeme2cruz

    so was last year.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Kemba really tried hard to hold on to his starting spot.

  • Jamie

    Not too sure about that
    the whole team put on.
    There were other players who were more deserving

  • 22cents

    Honestly, I am fine with this article. The only issue is that he made an assumption that the Hornet is a playoff contender as a enticing factor for Lin. I have a different opinion on that.

    Through Lin’s career, he had never been given the key. Houston was the closest one until JH’s signing. Then, the rest is history. I am not sure whether Net will be a playoff team if Lin sign with them. But I do believe Lin can improve Net’s chance to be in playoff. Belief is a strong biased opinion, ^_^. So, do not quote me on that.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Brett Brown only has one year to prove himself and is extremely unlikely that he could hold on his job more than that. Will MDA leave the sixers?

  • takeme2cruz

    Like Harden?

  • PPP
  • Arsenium12 .

    DON’T PANIC. THIS PICTURE IS 4 YEARS OLD.

    It’s when Jeremy was in hospital for his knee surgery.
    __________

  • CJSHYY

    76 is really full of young players….

    https://twitter.com/zesty_76ers/status/729716637650329600

  • JoeTeam

    rear view mirror.

  • real-dsb

    wow, didn’t know that. I guess Lawson was thinking, with free agency coming up, I’m going to go on a championship contending team, help them get to the Conf Finals, raise my stock, and get paid with the new salary cap!

    Little did he know… lol

  • real-dsb

    That’s the first that comes to mind when I hear Atkinson, the image of him bashing Lin with the pads during practice!

    Out of context quote: “Atkinson loves to bash Jeremy Lin!” LOL

  • real-dsb

    good, no MDA in Sac

  • real-dsb

    yeah, what is the deal with the hoop? That looks like a real metal hoop, an old one. Maybe it’s a sentimental hoop, like from his high school or something when they upgraded the gym.

  • real-dsb

    Yeah, I actually thought his form looked better this year. No wasted movement in lower legs.

  • real-dsb

    What is Chinatown Boyz anyways? Is it some clothing brand? They sure are getting a lot of free publicity from Lin’s fan posts.

  • donsmacau

    One reason Colangelo has not fired Brett Brown yet is their European draft pick Dario Saric only speaks with Coach Brown. Now Colangelo goes to meet Saric and build personal connection.

    Every coach fired this season had a better record than Coach Brett Brown of Sixers 10-72 record —- Scott Brooks, Vogel, Blatt, Bickerstaff, Karl, Joerger, Wittman, BScott, Hollins,Hornacek, Fisher, McHale fired for a 4-7 start

    Sixers have every reason to fire Brown but just waiting for the proper time – and install MDA.

    If MDA does not accept any coaching job with other teams but stays on the Sixers team, guarantee he will be next head coach.

  • Arsenium12 .

    RC Buford totaled 77 points and received nine of 29 first-place votes from a panel of fellow team basketball executives throughout the NBA. Executives were awarded five points for each first-place vote, three points for each second-place vote and one point for each third-place vote.
    __________
    https://twitter.com/spurs/status/729702617631199232

  • Rocky

    This explains why Clifford wanted to lose Game 7! Walker might have played through injury in game 7. Clifford did not want to let Lin to play to win for game 7 and proceed to round 2. If Walker cannot handle round 2 for his injury, Hornets may as well just exit early. Hornets knew perfectly that Hornets will have good chance to have more wins down the road, if Lin was allowed to play like Games 3, 4 and 5. But, that would only help Lin to pump up his market value, no benefit to Hornets. That’s why Clifford was not upset in Game 7 postgame interview. MJ did not look unhappy either. Knew something sneaky was going on!

  • real-dsb

    I’ll also ask for all to refrain from attempting to moderate other users (see Rule 6) by calling them out or labeling them as trolls. I know you’re trying to help, but actually it just fuels the toxic environment and people even get hit by friendly crossfire.

    Think of those times that someone at work/school accidentally sent an email to huge mailing list. Someone will reply all asking why they got the email. Then more people reply all to tell everyone to stop replying all. In the end, it only made the situation worse and everyone got hundreds of emails. If everyone just ignored the original message, you’d only have 1 message to delete.

    So if you see a post that you feel is against the rules or spirit, flag it and *ignore* it. Don’t respond to the post. It’s only going to snowball and make things worse.

  • real-dsb

    That’s why the Curry and the Warriors are so special. Obviously Curry takes the most shots and handles the ball the most, but at the same time, the whole team is involved and engaged.

    Completely opposite of iso ball where one player does their thing and the other 4 stand around and watch.

  • takeme2cruz

    …plus fire him would cost the team estimated $10 plus mil. His contract just got extended by former GM.

  • donsmacau

    Not sure how much Brown makes per year, but it’s hard to believe they’d lose that much if they canned him for the balance of his deal.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I thought why Colangelo said he’s OK w Brown as coach moving forward… his boss didn’t want to fired Brown$$$

  • real-dsb

    The only question is how many voters did not vote Curry as 1st.

    Last year, the tally was Curry 100, Harden 25, James 5.

    http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/Kia-2014-15-MVP-Voting-Ballot-Results.pdf

  • David Kim

    Is brooks a good P&R player?

    The Brook-Lin pick and roll will look nice in Brooklyn.

    by NH Nets Fan on 05.09.16 12:01pm

  • alain gervais

    Thats the question. I saw a question about his PNR defense

  • rookie75094

    Jlin will not be happy to learned that the bugs didn’t play to win and wasted an opportunity to go to the ecf….I am really hate the bugs now.

  • rookie75094

    There is a hater call NY king or something….spewing false info about Jlin overthere

  • alain gervais

    It wasn’t about Lin is was about broke lopez and his PNR defense

  • rookie75094

    I know…I wasnot referring to Lopez pnr….just saying there is a hater spewing false info overthere

  • alain gervais

    Well it doesn’t matter. Trolls are trolls.

  • rookie75094

    Yeah..

  • freemind

    Yes the interest should dip now that playoff is over for him
    Overall it’s still very impressive to be top 50 search athletes.
    Cam Newton ranked #50 Ernie Els#43 Dwyane Wade #42

  • jolno

    There is an ongoing rumor that Daryl Morey will be fired soon. It is likely the result of the Rockets trying to lure premium coaches who would only take the job if given complete control of the team roster. If the firing truly materializes, it will be further justice served because Morey tried hard to destroy Lin’s NBA career and he almost succeeded as evidenced by Lin’s lack of options during last year’s free agency. Fortunately, now Lin is at a much better position with many intriguing options to choose from after taking a huge pay cut to rebuild his image in Charlotte while Morey is likely on the way out!

  • takeme2cruz

    There’s always a bad apple in every tree.

  • freemind

    GSW continued pounding even with Curry out. That’s the way the team is supposed to operate. Oh wait, I forgot this was Kw’s team LOL

  • CJSHYY

    I want Morey to be fired but I also want him to stay w Harden forever…LOL!

  • rookie75094

    Morey is a dead ringer for the governor character in the walking dead. …the governor got killed in the show….I hope Morey career get the same in real life..
    Hehe

  • webattorney

    Cliff rode Kemba like a Secretariat and the same thing happened. I could never tell he was injured. Must have been a very small torn meniscus since he’s activities to resume BB activities in early July. That’s quick.

  • webattorney

    Harsh.

  • Whitman Lam

    Great, Morey can take his puppet mouthpiece David “Clutch” Hardisty with him. THE NUMBERS ARE CLEAR …. YOUR TEAM IS BUILT AROUND A LAZY FAKE SUPERSTAR HARDEN …. YOU’RE FIRED, GTFO OF HERE !

  • Arsenium12 .

    Dave Joerger has an agreement in principle with the Sacramento Kings to become the team’s new head coach, sources told ESPN’s Marc Spears. Joerger agreed to a four-year deal worth $16 million, and the fourth year of the contract is a team option, according to sources.
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/729746353425911808

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Fast…. Pacers…. MDA now.

  • sws94

    Lin and Wade having words (Wade playing dirty)

  • real-dsb

    Kemba supposedly injured his knee a month ago, and apparently it was not serious enough to risk doing more damage, just a pain tolerance issue.

    Wow, can you imagine how the season may have turned out if Kemba had decided to get surgery earlier? I can’t blame Kemba for playing through it though, with Lin playing as well he did as a starter.

    https://twitter.com/QCHspencer/status/729713330089250820

  • Uh-Oh

    Chinatown boyz is a group of boyz who live at this great place with many great food call Chinatown. One day they have an idea of creating something that, without speaking people automatically know they live at Chinatown, hence the shirt. It’s a way to show the pride of being a Chinatown boyz.

    I wont surprised if they also have Chinatown girlz too. That will be awesome.

  • Uh-Oh

    This pic looks very young and fresh. The hair now is more of mature and cool. Less gel would be better. But maybe that’s his intention. To keep away people from touching.

  • sws94

    There must be degrees of this because when Lin tore his, back in NY Linsanity days, it affected his on-court minutes and then he was shut down by the team. I get the feeling that Charlotte will have players play through serious injury and Lin has as well because they knew Batum is injury prone (and played poorly through injury). Lin used a lot of message therapy I think.

  • Uh-Oh

    NO. It’s not from high school. It’s from when he started to play basketball with his dad when he’s five.

  • real-dsb

    Yes, there are different degrees of torn meniscus. Being as tough as Lin is, I’m sure he would have put off surgery when he was with the Knicks if it was only a pain tolerance issue and there was no risk of further damage to the knee.

  • Kirk

    Hey there fellas,

    I want to commend the folks that run this forum; it’s a great place. I just want to share some thoughts I had.

    There are some good folk(s) here who want JLin to remain a backup on the hornets. The reasoning given is that he is a slasher, not a real point guard and thus has to come off the bench; a bad decision maker. That he will be exposed without Kemba on the court with Kemba making decisions. That Lin plays best as an instinctive player, and is prone to overthinking. That the hornets have a unique nucleus of teammates and Lin needs good teammates in order to thrive.

    It is okay to believe this. It is perfectly fine to post about this.

    What is NOT okay is for these posters to CHASTISE AND CHIDE everyone else for not believing this. And they tell us openly to stop thinking that Lin should leave; that by doing so we are thinking narrowly. That we are hanging on to a pipe dream and false hope.Or, that this is not what Lin wants. Lin is “happiest” in Charlotte.

    With all due respect, you don’t know what Lin wants anymore than we know what Lin wants. You cannot claim a monopoly on Jlin’s thoughts, which is what you are doing, time and time again, by claiming your version of what Lin thinks is correct and ours is false.

    Furthermore, is is NOT YOUR PLACE TO TELL US NOT TO HOPE. I will quote the “Shawshank Redemption” about hope: “Remember, Red, hope is good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies”. You can’t be so risk averse that you never leave your house for fear of tripping outside. Similarly, you can’t be so risk averse that you chide us for wanting Jlin to leave.

    Furthermore, this argument, to me at least, is wrong on the merits. Recall this: After the Spurs beat the Warriors in a Saturday night game at the end of the regular season, many pundits were saying that this was THE BEST REGULAR SEASON GAME OF ALL TIME, BETWEEN TWO OF THE BEST TEAMS EVER.

    Well, a Lin-led team beat the Spurs the next game, because Kemba and Batum’s decision-making was a flaming hot mess. Lin is only turned to as a decision maker out of desperation (a seven point first quarter) or injury (the playoffs).

    This notion that Lin overthinks was started by Byron Scott last year. It shouldn’t be repeated as dogma. Lin is often relegated to the role of a”space player”, and he constantly has to fight his freeze-outs to become a decision maker. This to me, is part of Lin’s perceived “overthinking”. Lin fighting his freezeouts to take charge. We shouldn’t be repeating this false mantra.

    Recall also, that a bench lineup of JLin, Swaggy P, Boozer, Jordan Hill, and Wayne Ellington, was one of the best units and the best bench in the NBA last year. There is nothing unique about Lin’s Hornets lineup. I actually liked this lineup from the Lakers much more, even without Ed Davis. And these teammates loved JLin. Jlin is a likable guy. Watching the bench guys coalesce around JLin was a beautiful sight last year. The bond they had was incredible and just as good, if not better than the bond JLin has this year. You saw Nick Young tweet about how inspired he was to watch JLin carve up the Heat. Is that not a good friend?

    There is something beautiful about watching the greats play sports. It is a privilege for me to watch Drew Brees, quarterback of the Saints carve up a defense and throw for 400 yards. Well, this didn’t have to happen. Drew Brees, after a successful stint on the Chargers, was about to be replaced by Phillip Rivers, a young hotshot qb. Brees was short, only 6′. Brees had a ton of doubters who said he wasn’t good enough to start. Brees didn’t decide to stick around, start for another year or two, and mentor Rivers, which would’ve been the ‘safer’ option.

    No, he left, went to the Saints, and became one of the best QBs in history.

    Jlin, in my book, is a Steve Nash-Jason Kidd hybrid, just as good as both those two. How depressing would it be, if instead, we is fans, want him to only be a sparkplug sixth man.

  • psalm234

    Jeremy Lin 2015-2016 Season Mix

  • Uh-Oh

    I have to use a Calculator to find out what year is that, going backward 12 years. Wow! 2004! Both Mark and I were so young in 2004! Now we both aged.what a sad rewind to me.

  • donsmacau

    I was thinking the exact same and posted this on a different fansite:
    ——————————–
    Anyone else feel robbed besides JLIN?

    Had Kemba done the right thing and had meniscus repair surgery on his knee in the month before, then this would have happened:

    1) JLIN would have not allowed stupid losses to Denver, Detroit, Dallas etc…

    2) JLIN would have ensured that the Hornets be solid 3 seed with home-court advantage.

    3) JLIN would have led a ROUT of the Miami Heat

    4) JLIN would be in the 2nd round playing the Raptors and leading a second consecutive series win.

  • Uh-Oh

    You want a coffee and a brownie for your well written?
    I only have a huge problem with them when the folk(s) keep repeating this “back up bench” talk over and over and over and over.

  • psalm234

    yes, there are 2 positives:
    1. Kemba definitely fought hard by only missing 1 regular season game after missing 20 games the previous season to secure his starter status.
    2. Lin gets freedom to find his coach and his own team in a bigger market

    I’m content for good but not the best results in the Hornets season

  • DX

    Let the Lin rumors begin … as if they hadn’t already started

    Adi Joseph of The Sporting News writes Monday morning that if Lin wants a big contract, a starting job, his most likely destinations are Philadelphia and Brooklyn. …

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/5/9/11639636/let-the-lin-rumors-begin-as-if-they-hadnt-already-started

  • sws94

    Here’s some more info on it. It doesn’t seem to be of the same nature as Lin’s back in 2012.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article76518672.html#storylink=cpy

  • JJ Hui

    Exactly! You speak everything from my mouth! Also when one keeps saying the false thing over and over and repeating it over and over people will start believing it even though was totally false! Hitler did that too to start a propaganda!
    Thank you and this is the best post since a long long time!

  • Lin Dunn

    Seriously doubt that is true. Torn menisus is serious. Steph Curry had a grade 1 and that sideline him for more than 2 wks

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    mmmh which teams still need HC? I’m lost in knowing which and what anymore.
    https://twitter.com/SacramentoKings/status/729767907366973440

  • gasparthe2nd

    nice choice of music. sniff sniff…. almost want to cry.

  • Lin Dunn

    Nets priority is still Conley. But every team wants Conley, so there is a good chance Nets will offer Lin I hope. So when will the HC give his first news conference, now that Hawks is out of playoff, he shouldn’t have much business to wrap up

  • JoeTeam

    hey very nice post, in tone and what you are saying that I agree with. Where have you been as your disqus is fairly new and you have a good sense of the longterm discussion on JLin. Welcome!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    My take is Kemba was so fear to lose for his profile in the team that he played thru his injury. To me it isn’t a heroic act. Yes, I celebrate that JLin is out of Charlotte. I don’t think I can bear to watch more games if he stays in Charlotte. Everything is all good now.

  • real-dsb

    Here’s a source that seems to be updated.

    Currently open: HOU, IND, MEM, NYK

    http://www.sacbee.com/sports/article76408617.html

  • Briiick

    Couch of slow offense for the Big.

  • JoeTeam

    I agree with you. A torn meniscus can lead to a bigger tear. They go in and make a round hole at the end of the tear to stop it from tearing further. Yep, it’s a short procedure and you can be up and walking in 1-2 days, but playing bball? No way for awhile lots of rehab.

  • Spot

    I think if Sixers want Jeremy for real, they will get him.

    Jeremy already told he’s tired of big market and plus looks like Jerry Colangelo is a devout Christian as well.

    It only depends on what they want to do. Obviously Jeremy will choose his best option.

  • real-dsb

    I would think that Conley would prefer a team with better playoff chances at this point in his career.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks!

  • Spot

    So Kemba was that scared that Jeremy took spotlights in his abscence, again?

  • Uh-Oh

    Where? Of course, hiding somewhere lurking.

  • JoeTeam

    see above. To me a meniscus tear is either serious or not, based on if it can tear more. 0 or 1. So it probably wasn’t a big deal. Minor cleanup for KW right now. I doubt if he could have cut on it without tearing it further if it were serious. I’m no doc, so I could be all wrong – anybody here know ?

  • JoeTeam

    Not every lurker has bad intent. Call them read-only members.

  • Uh-Oh

    What’s the difference? Lurker and read-only members? I loke being call lurker instead.

  • gasparthe2nd

    Hey! I enjoyed reading your whole essay : ) Sure, Lin has been oppressed and exploited (you know what I mean); We’ve seen this man perform amazelin stuff, typical of a high calibre point guard, to win the games…and then get benched. A tragic saga, as I see it.

    HeL! yeah!! Get out of Charlotte, LIn! He is worthy of leading any team that’s ready to follow. I’ve been convinced since the LINSANITY days and then I see LinsaNITY again and again.

    Continue on your journey Lin [he’s got plenty of money]; turn the Nets or the 76’ers or even the Spurs, Warriors or whomever into winners. That’s what he is, A WINNER. An adept winner. You want to start, Mr. Lin. Then GO FOR IT. Your fans will NOT be disappointed.

  • steven ko

    Yeah, he left too much money on the table at Denver

  • freemind

    Just read bonnell’s piece in CharlotteObs on KW surgery… he ended the article with “Batum and Lin both want to be back and no doubt Walker is lobbying for their return in free agency ”

    ………………Nooooooooooooooo!

    Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article76587142.html#storylink=c

  • sws94

    He may. He’s a year older than Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    Here is why there is a difference:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker

  • Uh-Oh

    Ohhhh
    “In Internet culture, a lurker is typically a member of an online community or PLN who observes, but does not actively participate.”

    I m correct.

  • kittyhead

    The key is how he deals with Cousins or he will be fired next summer…as well.

  • HY C
  • kittyhead

    I remember he underwent the same surgery last year. Maybe the same knee? If would be very bad if Hornets let/ask players to play with this injury…smh

  • zxcvb

    No indication of that. Conley makes no sense for them, especially since Marks is in charge. And Nets make no sense for Conley as a rebuilding team. I can see them interested in Teague or Schroder because of Atkinson, but they don’t have the trade assets to get them.

  • zxcvb

    Partial tear can mean anything depending on its severity. During Linsanity, Lin played on a meniscus tear for weeks before having surgery. It just kept getting a tiny bit worse every game.

    Even then, he probably could have played longer before surgery if his financial future wasn’t at stake.

  • JoeTeam

    in one dimension, yes. There is a lot more and lurker can be derogatory.

  • Lin Dunn

    Just read the article then scroll down and read another article “Now that Joeger is out do we i.e. the Nets have a better chance of landing Conley.

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/5/8/11634124/NBA-Mike-Conley-Free-Agency-2016-Grizzlies-Fire-Dave-Joerger-Brooklyn-Nets

  • zxcvb

    No, I’ve read that already. Just fan speculation ignoring actual statements and common sense. You should check this out from Woj himself:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-woj-report–pelican-problems-132654855.html

    “The Nets new General Manager Sean Marks understands that big game hunting is a fruitless pursuit for the Nets until they’ve established a culture with a new coach and a real identity… Marks is determined to find value on the market this summer. Find some singles and doubles before he tries to go out and hit home runs.”

    Signing 15/6 Conley for $20M+ per year after an Achilles injury is not consistent with that approach.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    “NOT YOUR PLACE TO TELL US NOT TO HOPE”
    i like this quote. it says it all

  • Uh-Oh

    FINE. Read-Only-Member.

  • Whitman Lam

    Conley will take many days, even weeks to decide where he wants to go. Because that’s what top free agents do, they wait it out for the best contract offer. They care nothing about how it affects their team building process, like when Deandre Jordan screwed over the Dallas Mavericks at the last second.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lets hope so. I like the idea of Jlin starting as PG at Nets

  • Linzen

    My thought exactly. They are probably still playing and leading Raptors 3-1.

  • freemind

    “When I’m done playing, one of the things I want to do is to make the world a better place. And there’s no better way than to really look into tech, because society’s becoming extremely digital,” says Jeremy Lin.

    New interview? dated 5/10 12am
    http://www.philstar.com/health-and-family/2016/05/10/1581500/jeremy-lin-were-all-playing-together-and-were-playing-right-way

  • real-dsb

    I’m guessing it was conducted before the playoffs started.

    “The Hornets are in the play-offs! How do you see the team in the postseason?”

  • freemind

    Good catch…that make sense now. He was in the zone with his “unselfishness, team chemistry” response. No doubt tho he truly enjoy playing with his teammates.

  • DX

    Wondering why May 10, it’s Philippine time.

  • sws94

    Yes. I was thinking that he was injured in those Jan games. It was when both he and Batum were injured and he ended up playing most of the games injured for Batum. The Philly game he started with both Kemba and Batum and didn’t have that much usage. It was mostly an Alfense game where he scored 26 points and took 19 shots. Lamb played 30 minutes in that game. It was a blowout as stated.

  • CJSHYY

    I think what Lin said he likes his teammates & this team bc they bought into his team ball theory (some of the games….) that he preached since Rox…. too bad, game 6 changed…. smh!

    “It’s night and day to a lot of other organizations. I compare this team to my high school team, in terms of guys totally buying in. We didn’t have a superstar in high school, but we were able to have success just playing team basketball and doing it the right way,” Lin said.

  • CJSHYY

    Looks like only Pacers will have chance for MDA….

  • sws94

    So I should ignore this post, right? smh.

  • CJSHYY
  • spiderman

    Shaqtin a Fool highlights of Harden’s matador defense should be fresh in his mind.

  • KHuang

    Dave Joerger literally was unemployed for one week!

  • Joe what do you know

    He probably would like a court side seat for the live entertainment rather than looking through a tv screen…. 😏

  • KHuang

    If I recall, Jeremy Lin held Mike Conley SCORELESS over an entire game.

  • KHuang

    I suspect Dave Joerger will get along well with DeMarcus Cousins –

    but the Kings will not win more games because Cousins is out of shape and also because the Kings have no backcourt especially when Rondo is on the court stinking up games with what I call “selfish assists” (pass only to Cousins, freeze everyone else out).

  • I am The Jason

    More like a weekend. Fired on Saturday and hired on Monday.

  • CJSHYY

    When he’s in Lakers?

  • KHuang

    I think it was when Lin was with the Rockets.

    I don’t remember, I could be wrong.

  • KHuang

    I think that the main appeal for Sacramento hiring him is AFFORDABILITY –

    they are still paying George Karl a ton of money, and that’s not even accounting for Karl’s assistants who were also fired.

  • Joe what do you know

    👏🏻 clear, concise and straight on the point. I wish all the posts here are as objective as yours.

  • KHuang

    And Teague and Schroeder don’t want to play for a LOSER unless they get the full maxxed out max.

  • CJSHYY

    lucky or unlucky – Cousins….LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    Why made you think Dave will get along well w Cousins? He’s really hard to deal w….

  • real-dsb

    If I were a national network commentator, I wouldn’t leave my gig to be a head coach. You get paid millions to watch and talk about basketball without any pressure of getting wins, dealing with entitled superstars, and in most cases getting fired before fulfilling your contract.

  • I am The Jason

    You get a standing ovation for this post.

  • CJSHYY

    TNT will welcome him back if he’s out of Rox as HC….LOL!

  • sws94

    I agree. But I guess some miss the challenge and thrill of it even with those headaches 🙂

    But some don’t. I don’t know about basketball but in football Cowher for example, who won the superball with the Steelers, never left the booth. He’s with JB and those guys.

  • sws94

    Vid produces an error message for me.

  • I am The Jason

    I feel J Lin destination depends on where Mike Conley will sign. Once that domino falls, teams will open up their checkbooks for Lin. I can see Lin getting a contract in the range of what Monte Ellis got from the Pacers which is $48-$50 million for 4 yrs. If Lin wants to continue this super bench player (aka 6th man aka starter in a bench role), he may opt to stay in Charlotte. Charlotte was so much better from an outside pov than Houston and LA.

    That being said, I hope to see Lin in Brooklyn next season. They have no 1st rd draft picks until 2019 so building team chemistry with the talent they have will be somewhat easy, I hope. Also I want Lin to stick it to the Knicks and Melo for forcing him out. Philly would be cool but if they get the number 1 pick in the draft, they will draft a PG.

  • spiderman

    Really hope for a high salary wherever he chooses

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! That shows how this team value & respect you.

  • donsmacau

    Should Philly draft a player they wish to turn into an NBA PG, there is simply no chance Colangelos/MDA (if you know the history of these men) would ever allow a rookie PG to start – Philly guarantee will get a free agent PG and they will make a play for JLIN.

  • TTNN

    Not really, I feel there are teams not necessary want to spend a Max on Conley, that could go to Lin without really care Conley’s location.

    Those are the teams that are not targeting to go to finals, or they might be limited by their cap space, or they have more holes to fill than PG position.

    The team do not wait for Conley’s decision might get an edge to go to the second choice first, that way they show their willingness with the said player. Just like Raptors signed Lowry while all the other guys were waiting for DH12’s decision.

    So, you never know.

    BTW, I don’t think Nets will after Conley, that’s a team not ready to after a max player yet. (They are not attractive enough either.)

  • TTNN

    I heard this class was pretty thin in guards.

  • donsmacau

    Frankly with the way Grizzlies GM spoke about doing whatever it takes to keep Conley, I will shocked if Conley leaves Memphis.

  • donsmacau

    True, there is speculation some teams want to turn Simmons into a PG; this rarely works well in the NBA.

  • Cycloben

    Yes, Jeremy should not sacrifice pay for a “starter” promise. In other words, “starter” discount is just as bad as an Asian discount.

  • TTNN

    I have seen this before though, before playoff started.

  • Cycloben

    Exactly. Never trust the words of serpents. Money talks.

  • TTNN

    I thought MEM will take IND’s coach

  • JoeTeam

    what’s smh supposed to mean why so emotional? You might read this post and agree with the things you are ok with and disagree with what you don’t agree with. These days, there’s no guarantee anyone is talking for real because of the anxiety before FA happens. Happy day, is what I say.

  • JoeTeam

    wouldn’t that be nice? So many dinner convos would be easier … you know what I mean, friends who don’t watch bball spewing stuff from SAS from years ago. ah …

  • JoeTeam

    well, not for Rox. For CHA maybe, depending on keys given. etc.

  • takeme2cruz

    Nets have just ended the relationship of mistaken superstar max players Dwill and Johnson. They would be crazy to start a new max especially he’s still in rehab.

    My guess, Lin will get offer $34 mil ($10, $11, $12 all with change) for 3 years with Atkinson on the phone.

  • real-dsb

    Done!

  • JoeTeam

    I would love to see more given the salary cap increase. He certainly has stats to prove his value.

  • real-dsb

    yeah, the article just says “Updated May 10”. Maybe corrected something in the article. Or just self-bumped it for views =)

  • takeme2cruz

    I believe it should be more, but he has just come out as a backup player. If that the case hope he will get 3rd year option.

  • takeme2cruz

    Show me the $$$. haha.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    with condition that he doesn’t “lose” the starting job, ever

  • JoeTeam

    This will all be over in 60 days or less. I’m good just to chit chat a bit and keep watching the playoffs. Who knows … I just hope for a bigger package for JLin for waiting it out this year. So good he’s going into summer healthy. Look at others: KW, Whiteside, Griff, CP23, … could have been anything and all the investment would be at risk. So good where Jlin and fans are at now.

  • real-dsb

    Yes, but at the same time, money doesn’t guarantee being treated fairly.

    Lakers were paying Lin $15M ($8M cap) to be their starter, yet Lin only started 30 games and only had 25.8 mpg.

    CHA paid Lin $2M and told Lin he’d be coming off the bench. Yet Lin started 13 games and had 26.3 mpg.

    So yes, I hope for Lin to get a fat contract, but I won’t assume that he’s the entrenched starter for the entire season (depending the team he goes to).

  • takeme2cruz

    We can trust Atkinson because Lin does.

  • I am The Jason

    That’s too low for Lin. Lin should get anything in the range of what Kemba, Monte, or even Rubio gets. With the spike in the salary cap, $50 million would not be a burden to the cap

  • takeme2cruz

    I’m with you.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s low but not too low.

  • Uh-Oh

    And walks too

  • real-dsb

    Yes, please. Everyone should just ignore posts that they don’t like. Use that Collapse button.

  • sws94

    I agree and it is how I feel. After all of the he starts he doesn’t stuff, I’m jaded on the NBA in how he’ll be treated on any team regardless of how things initially look. I agree with you, the money doesn’t guarantee how he’ll be used. Hoping for Atkinson or MDA seems like a better bet, but there is so, so much more I think he has to consider.

  • takeme2cruz

    MDA once was one of the league high profile head coach. Look at him now after the bad PR from Los Angeles especially by Magic and Kobe. He couldn’t even get a HC job from any under .500 team.

    Considering Lin is lucky, thanks for many loses and injuries especially in the 1st half of the season when they were under .500 out of playoff picture and of course the 0-2 in playoff. Lin shined when Clifford was in desperate moments.

  • I am The Jason

    Its really low for a starting pg. If Lin was coming off the bench then I would be cool with your numbers.

  • sws94

    Yes, I’m good.

  • JoeTeam

    MDA was sitting it out collecting his contract, so I don’t feel sorry for him. He’ll get a good gig soon enough.

  • real-dsb

    Unless the Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace leaves Memphis! Rumors that he was looking to leave MEM.

    http://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2016/5/7/11616626/report-grizzlies-gm-chris-wallace-pursued-kings-front-office-position

  • takeme2cruz

    Oh no, I would never talk about other people wealth, just basketball.

  • sws94

    I’m fine, nothing directed toward you, JoeTeam. My happy thought for the day is looking at all of the injuries that occurred this regular season and playoffs, I’m happy that Lin stayed relatively healthy and performed great in the playoffs.

    Cheers!

  • takeme2cruz

    There are starters making less than $10 mil.

  • zxcvb

    I don’t think Conley and Lin have much effect on each other. Conley is looking for a max contract and a contender. The teams that will sign Lin and let him start are very limited — Nets and Sixers. Neither of those teams are remotely sensible landing spots for Conley. And if they want Lin, then they will offer and Lin would immediately accept.

    Also, from a $$$ point of view, Conley would be wise to let a guy like Lin sign first and say, “I’m better than Lin! Pay me max!” While Lin would be smart to sign early before Conley, so he can’t be low-balled (“Conley got 18M per, so Lin should only get 10M per”).

    Now, if the Nets and Sixers DON’T offer, then Lin will have to wait for Conley and others to see what the best situation is (Memphis if Conley leaves? Spurs as their 6th man?). Hopefully, it won’t come to that though.

  • takeme2cruz

    Go Raptors, I can’t stand Wade.

  • Lin Dunn

    There are only 7 days in July to shuffle all this.

  • sws94

    I think some other teams may emerge that want Lin to start. Really, FA hasn’t started yet. We’re in the fire/hire coaches stage. Then some trades may happen with the FA signing. Lots of other opportunities may come up for Lin and Conley both.

  • zxcvb

    6 days technically (July 1st-6th). All the more reason things will move quickly.

  • Lin Dunn

    So how does this FA thing work. Lets say Nets is offering Lin 30 mil 3 yr as starting PG 7/1/16 at 9 am, Lin will just accept?

  • real-dsb

    None of the post-Jackson Lakers coaches currently have a head coaching job.

  • zxcvb

    Although 4yr/60M would be fair under the new cap…life ain’t fair. Lin has always been hosed and until he gets a chance to prove himself for 82 games, he will continue to be hosed.

    4yr/48M seems logical. Maybe Lin will go for 3 years with an opt-out if they only offer 10M per.

  • Whitman Lam

    And overpaid Dragic.

  • real-dsb

    How the FA realistically works is that there are lots of “informal” (under the table) discussions between the teams and agents before July 1. They agree to terms in principle, then Woj tweets about it before July 1. On July 1, they sign the official contract.

    Well, that’s for the big names. Then the dominoes start to fall from there.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah, he can accept right away and it’ll be “agreed upon” and reported.

    However, you can’t formally sign the actual contract until *after* that 6-day period. As we saw with the Deandre Jordan situation last year, you can technically back out since nothing’s signed. NBA decided to shorten the moratorium this year to speed up the process.

  • Briiick

    Agreed. While Conley is a level above Harden, KW etc in in terms of winning BB, Lin is a very creative PG and I don’t think Conley is better than Lin given a fair system to each. I think some managers also like to see other managers value Conley so much higher, LOL.

  • real-dsb

    I used to be a fan of Wade early in his career, but later I didn’t like his style anymore.

  • John Focker

    Apparently, neither can the Canadians.

    Wade’s shots during Canadian anthem spark some outrage
    http://www.nba.com/2016/news/05/08/dwyane-wade-shooting-during-canadian-anthem-sparks-outrage.ap/

  • sws94

    He’s still a great player. Too much dirty stuff. But he’s an all-time great and he’s having a solid game tonight.

  • takeme2cruz

    Disgrace.

  • JoeTeam

    btw, go back to Reagan?

  • joy

    “Lin shined when Clifford was in desperate moments.” Hmmm… this sentence sounds a bit pathetic to me. I wish Lin will never again have to wait for this kind of opportunity to shine.

  • takeme2cruz

    hahaha, always.

  • John Focker

    Wade’s response to the incident was akin to fueling the fire, REALLY disrespectful.

  • Jamie

    Yah he used to be amazing but LeBron ruined it

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, cruz is gone now, come back reagan did more.

  • Jamie

    To be fair, the Tor players were doing the same too. They are not Canadian after all

  • takeme2cruz

    Money he’s over class, decency he’s underclass.

  • alain gervais

    go heat

  • Maknusia

    It seems SCurry might be available today to play?!

  • Jamie

    Wade is ai
    Whiteside pisses me off and Dragic overrated and overpaid

  • takeme2cruz

    He’s their guest. He represents the country.

  • takeme2cruz

    He’s out but not gone.

  • Jamie

    Yep Harden made a strong case too

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Off the bench.

  • real-dsb

    The TOR players were too? I saw the video, they stopped shooting when the anthem began.

  • sws94

    He had to change his game due to injuries. Plus, he’s 34 now.

    Wade changed his status to make LeBron the top player on Miami after he joined.

  • Jamie

    Yep, very disrespectful and he tried to justify it after didnt even apologize
    but same should go for the raptors players too
    these NBA players are disrespectful in general

  • John Focker

    I think it was vs Jazz’s Tinsley (0-2), not Conley.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400488911

    Lin also held Calderon scoreless (0-8) in the previous game vs. Mavs.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400488898

    This is why the Lin has bad D propaganda is so stupid and asinine.

  • John Focker

    Yeah, for the likes of Ish Smith, Canaan and Bev, non of whom hold quarter of a stick compared to Lin.

  • Jamie

    That’s what my friends who were at the game said but wade tried to justiy his action

  • sws94

    Makes sense, coming back from injury. He may even be on a minute restriction but I’m not sure.

  • Jamie

    Yah wasnt fun to watch

  • sws94

    That’s horrible. He should apologize.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s what the danger of the internet, lies and excuses are spreading. Must be from Wade’s people.

  • sws94

    They had a lot of problems at first playing with each other. Now, it’s back to Wade’s team after they got 2 rings together.

  • John Focker

    Even if true, two (or more) wrongs don’t make a right. Pointing at other speeders never saved anyone from a speeding ticket.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • sws94

    Did he not hold Kemba to 0 as well? Either 0 or very, very low scoring.

  • Jamie

    Why are there so many articles suggesting Lin wants to come back?
    I really don’t want him back with Charlotte
    Not under Clifford, whom I consider quite…. no adjustment not much better than McHale really
    about the same as Dwayne Casey who I think is very incompetent

  • takeme2cruz

    I haven’t seen one.

  • John Focker

    It’s strategic, many probes and weather balloons.

  • Jamie

    so annoying

  • Jamie

    google jeremy lin

  • real-dsb

    Here’s the video clip. The last TOR player to shoot a shot happened at “Oh, Ca…”.

  • Jamie

    and they were still moving around

  • Jamie

    not a lie at all

  • takeme2cruz

    Can’t shine if you’re not on the floor. Can’t shine if you don’t have the ball.

  • takeme2cruz

    You’re not lying, you just accidently repeat their lie.

  • CJSHYY

    They all base on what he said from exit interview…. lots of reporters didn’t even know what Lin said in his FB about FA…. Don’t worry about it. I don’t think he will go back.

  • John Focker

    Kemba lost many games against Jeremy’s teams, but he always took care of himself before the team, so he always got his even if he had to do it via volume.

  • real-dsb

    Because Lin answered the Hornets reporters: “I definitely want to play with these guys and for this coach. No question in my mind that I’m interested in coming back.” So the writers took it literally.

    Of course, he’s just being polite and PC. It’s not like Lin going to be rude and say, “No way I’m coming back here.” Technically, he’s still under contract with the Hornets.

  • CJSHYY

    Raptors became better or Heat became worst…? How come Heat has hard time to beat Raptors??

  • Jamie

    I’d rather he said that
    the way Clifford benched him in game 7 was nothing but disrespect

  • CJSHYY

    This statement sounds like PR for this team … you know helped them to get more players to come to Hornets….

  • Jamie

    cuz derosan the super selfish villian is off the court
    and nah both are bad charlotee couldve easily beat both if clifford wasnt such a bad coach

  • sws94

    Yes, but I seem to remember PFV talking about how Lin held him to either 0 or very few points one game.

  • sws94

    Heat mIssing Whiteside. DeRozan is on the bench late 4Q.

  • CJSHYY

    Raptors don’t have their C either….

  • JoeTeam

    on that point, you are right in that I heard on NPR those parties have now gotten a decades worth of mailing lists that they can sell for profit over and over to maintain their political clout. That was regarding Ben Carson when he dropped out.

  • sws94

    Yep. But they still look like they are rebounding better.

  • joy

    I know that. I meant I hope he’ll soon meet a coach who won’t wait till desperate moments to let him shine.

  • Jamie

    derosan so selfish Raptors fans really hate him

  • CJSHYY

    True. Deng as C? Heat is going to loss.

  • John Focker

    Aye aye, Captain!

  • John Focker

    I checked all of Jeremy’s post-Linsanity games vs Walker, and couldn’t find such game. Closest I found was 13 pts vs. Knicks towards end of 2011/12 season.

  • Jason

    Kenny Smith likes Lin. Rockets are going to China this summer. Hopefully, Lin does not sign with the Rockets no matter what they offer him. He should be wise enough not to join any team that’s going to China in the preseason. It’s all politics if the Rockets go after him. Don’t do it, JLin!

  • CJSHYY

    OT. Wade really plays well even at his age.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t like Rox & don’t want Lin go back to Rox either.

  • sws94

    Agree. Never go back. I find that place toxic.

  • sws94

    He’s not impressive in the playoffs. To much ISO and makes mistakes late in games.

  • sws94

    OK, guess I was mistaken.

  • sws94

    Wade incredible, Miami wins. GSW has only 2 points and are down 16-2.

  • sws94

    Here comes Curry.

  • sws94

    25 minutes for Curry.

  • alain gervais

    yup

  • alain gervais

    The biggest issue with the rox is harden who likes attention and gets jealous and the fan club who hates lin. Lol at the same time loves lin since they still follow Lin

  • takeme2cruz

    This Curry reminded me of Batum, did the lying Clifford say Batum will only play 7 or 9 min max on each half on game 6 and 7?

  • JoeTeam

    Somehow I don’t think of Batum when I’m seeing Curry.

  • takeme2cruz

    According to Clifford, Batum is their quarterback. Injury situation, that’s all. Nothing else similar between them.

  • JoeTeam

    I’m just kidding with you 🙂 We gotta bring the fun back to this site.

  • CJSHYY

    W/O Curry, GSW don’t play well…. they need him.

  • takeme2cruz

    The Blazers so far saw something most people didn’t. Lost Aldridge, traded Batum and they compete better this season.

  • JoeTeam

    lol takeme2 … Steph on the bike reminds me of Lin.

  • Steppen03

    I don’t mind the Heat take this series in six. WE almost won against them – Shows ppl that JL7 & Hornets, esp. Lin, were no joke. Let Hornets team be the only team that won three straight games against Heat.
    This Is It! Will stop talking about the past from now on and only look forward to the future.

  • takeme2cruz

    Now that’s very similar.

  • joy

    And Morey too. They lied to Lin and said he’ll be the face of the franchise then next thing was they signed Harden.

  • Steppen03

    Better Not! If $$ = Respects from org. and coach then we should hope JL7 get his contract like Reggie Jackson’s. Hope JL7 will get his Big Contract and Starting Role.

  • sws94

    Stuff like that happens. Putting Anthony in Lin’s uniform without telling him just shows how classless they are.

  • real-dsb

    Nah, reminds me more of Rodman. :p

  • Steppen03

    Why so little $$$ for Lin ??
    Reggie Jackson didn’t proved much before his Big break. If teams are truly invested in him (making him a starter) then I do see the big contract, $72M /4 yr.

  • real-dsb

    Yeah, based on Jackson example, it’s reasonable… If NBA free agency was fair.

  • sws94

    Livingston didn’t deserve to be ejected from the game. That’s wrong on the ref’s part. You have to let a player let out some steam in the playoffs.

  • JoeTeam

    They are trying to decide the series.

  • sport

    No Bosh and Whiteside with an old Wade, not going to go far.

  • sws94

    Just not right. Refs shouldn’t be able to do that.

  • HVJoy

    He was hit on the face by the opponent. No foul call. (reminding me of Lin!) He had a word with the ref and was ejected in 2 sec.

    The refs wants the Raptors to win.

  • DaBoss

    Thanks for a great, great post. Couldn’t have said it any better, Kirk!

  • sport

    GSW needs Steph badly, his absence shows how much better he makes the team.

  • JoeTeam

    in general, yes. But, don’t forget the team did ok in playoff bball for 4 games at least. So they just aren’t as consistent emotionally without Steph. Liv going after ref was dumb. But the ref was unfair – too much ego by the ref. It’s tough out there.

  • JoeTeam

    was it reggie j who suggested they have penalties for refs being bad? I think they should have say 30% more refs. Then change the pay structure – if you ref, you get paid more, if you sit the bench, you get paid less. Then the refs are picked by some kind of performance measure. Right now there is no real cost to being unfair or incompetent.

    I mean, look at how much time they gave to the DGreen flagrant foul review. They NEVER did that for JLin.

  • sport

    Seriously hope Steph will be healed enough to beat upcoming teams, he’s the only reason why I even look forward to the playoffs. It’d be horrible to beat Bulls record and NOT win a Championship just cause their best player went down.

  • HVJoy

    The refs really want the Raptors to win.

    Livingston was hit on the face by the opponent. No foul call. (reminding me of Lin!) He had a word with the ref and was ejected in 2 seconds!

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, I didn’t even think his first thing was that bad. Is there a rule you cannot talk to a ref during live action play? Ok, if so, the 1T. 2Ts crazy. Doesn’t SL have to sit next game then? He’s been really good on D and midrange to control game tempo. Refs really trying to make an impact.

  • JoeTeam

    I can almost agree, only because when he’s on the court, GSW play with such joy.

    He’s having trouble with his 3s. Interesting how his midranges are doing fine. That says how hard it would be for JLin to play 18 mins straight and hit 3s like the old days on Rox where he didn’t have to do that much and his rotations were better planned with rest.

  • CJSHYY

    Cav really plays well now so afraid they will beat GSW in final….

  • JoeTeam

    GSW have 2 more to get there. Long journey and KT might get his shot back. KT is really off these 2 games.

  • CJSHYY

    KT didn’t shoot as well as past… but Love & Irving shoot well now…. Cav really plays well compare to last season in playoff….

  • JoeTeam

    yes, if we get there (GSW), then it will be more fun than last year’s boxing match. Last year CLE had 2 guys out too. These next few weeks will be v exciting bball.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope it’s GSW or Spurs win the ring… but now I am worry about Spurs too. Hope they can beat OKC…..

  • sws94

    Those are good suggestions. They need to come up with something because the ref performance is truly suspect and uneven with players and teams.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, I really want it to be Spurs v GSW … I hate the way every year we have to see the finals as anticlimactic. I they would seed the entire NBA rather then by conference.

  • sws94

    Livingston has a good reputation for his on the court behavior. He was fouled, the ref missed it. It’s playoff competition where emotion is strong and Livingston was just stating his case. It’s OK to give him a T but to throw him out so quickly was wrong. That’s not acceptable. GSW has a right to be mad about that.

  • takeme2cruz

    Spurs and Warriors in Western final. Lock that.

  • Jamie

    The Blazers are soooooo lucky they are not this good and Lillard is a superstar a top 5 PG but hes not gonna beat the warriors

  • Jamie

    If Steph aint 100% they will beat the warriors.
    They are a really good team especially when JR is shooting well

  • Jamie

    the Blazers
    refs want the raptors to lose lol

  • Jamie

    Reggie was very young
    Lin will get 10-12m/year

  • Jamie

    If Harden is willing to share the ball, I’d be all for it and Beverley needs to go.
    If Lin goes, must be a starter 35+mpg 15+shots per game

  • CJSHYY

    Love is doing well too…

  • Jamie

    ugh I hate love so overrated

  • HVJoy

    You are right. Thank you. I stand corrected. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I know his D is not good but he shoot 8 3P yesterday….??? No wonder LBJ likes him more now. LOL!

  • JoeTeam

    Steph is playing amazingly well for being injured, what 4 or 5 games out.

  • Jamie

    Yah i dont like how the refs call completely according to their propaganda its all politics and gambling
    there’s no fairness in the NBA anymore

  • sport

    Same here, GSW has way better players even with Curry not 100%.

  • sport

    Yes glad he went to the paint, 0-7 at the 3, hope he gets going towards the end.

  • HVJoy

    Keeping fingers crossed that he doesn’t re-injure himself.

  • Jamie

    Yah but the bigs need to play good D and grab the rebounds
    3p is a plus but…love aways to me is a player who plays for his stats

  • joy

    Absolutely MVP!!

  • Jamie

    GSW should be sweeping them
    clippers shouldve swept them too
    this is so irritating

  • JoeTeam

    his freebies are going in. 2 of them where flares off the screen, and normally he twists his body to get stable. It’s possible his MCL isn’t strong enough to take that twist going up to stabilize the body.

  • JoeTeam

    first lead!

  • sport

    Yup! GSW making the right plays and finding the open Thompson for 3s!

  • Jamie

    GSW, please dont let Lillard be any cockier

  • JoeTeam

    rushing it too, not valuing every possession that they earn on D. Green amazing in the paint on D and O.

  • JoeTeam

    This!

    I could be mad at Lilliard, but then I remember his total dis of Bev and I can live with him playing well but losing to GSW lol.

  • sport

    True, Green is contributing on both ends!

  • sport

    Hope GSW takes this momentum and creates a big lead!

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Feel the same way…

  • joy

    I wonder how many Curry’s fans there tonight. 🙂

  • joy

    That block on Plumlee was huge. So fun to watch!

  • JoeTeam

    every bball fan loves curry because he carried us through the terrible elections season.

  • HVJoy

    Seeing Ed Davis shooting free throws made me miss the other half of LED: J Lin!

  • Jamie

    god i love how gsw with so much talent dont rely on so many isos, everyone moves everyone has a chance
    at least when they lose, its a really bad day cant really blame them for playing the right way
    this is so much better than kema ball, lowry ball and derosan ball those were so ugly
    incompetent coaches like clifford and casey just cant see it

  • sport

    Pretty sure most of the audience are there to see GSW.

  • sport

    This is how you give confidence to your best player have them come in last second just to take the last shot, not come in for “defense” (Lin).

  • HVJoy

    hahaha

  • joy

    Haha~

  • JoeTeam

    and when Steph is in, nobody worries about stats – just how to win this game. Just keep shooting until you get a 3, Steph! This team is great to watch because you don’t ever feel like anyone is going for a stat.

  • Jamie

    in cliffords mind Lin is their 5th best player

  • Jamie

    makes one realize how unintelligent of a player kemba is
    such low BBIQ

  • JoeTeam

    ok, Aminu and Plumlee with 4 fouls.

  • JoeTeam

    batum, too. anyone on CHA who doesn’t work for a better shot. Or, work to get someone going. Looking away from Lin is one way that team shows they don’t care as much about winning as getting their box scores.

  • freemind

    That contract must be inked in blood. LOL even that I don’t trust above scenario will ever change.

  • Jamie

    yep all of them were selfish even marvin williams
    they dont try to get anyone going
    i dont know how Lin enjoyed playing with those ppl

  • JoeTeam

    relatively, it was better than before (kobe, harden, melo JR)

  • Jamie

    La was a joke
    Houston was okay imo NY wasnt too bad either
    Kemba was way too predictable

  • sport

    Curry about to get hot after that long 2, book it!!

  • JoeTeam

    I got it Danno.

  • Jamie

    Lin on the warroirs could prolly avg like 11p 4a 3r in 19-22mins
    they are too good

  • sport

    off court they are probably good people on court it’s everyone for themselves.

  • Jamie

    Lin gotta get nasty too lol sometimes

  • sport

    19 mins? on GSW he’d only get 11 mins probably. When MKG was healthy Lin barely got 15 mins with Hornets!

  • JoeTeam

    I would love to see Lin on GSW because then they could have real firepower on 2nd team. Right now 2nd team is v good, but Lin has proven his 2nd units are the best in the league. For Lin to get good $ and good mins and deep playoff run, I can live with it. Lucky for Lin, GSW won’t have $ for him so he’ll be a starter somewhere :0

  • Jamie

    well assuming no shawn livingston and lins the back up pg/sg

  • Jamie

    really hope so and teamball
    no iso ball Lin isnt a very good iso guy either

  • JoeTeam

    he’s ok. His ISO is first step. He does ok on post-up backdowns.

  • joy

    Clifford says you don’t really know a player until you’ve personally coached him. Here’s what Clifford learned in one season of coaching Lin – “He’s a much better defender than I realized. He’s physical, he’s very confident and a very good competitor.”

    The only nice thing Clifford said about Lin when season ended was, “He’s a much better defender than I realized.” I thought he knows Lin well. It turned out Lin trusts him more than he trusts Lin. smh

  • sport

    Darn, Blazers knocking down 3s late in the game. GSW better wake up!

  • sport

    Except Steve Kerr doesn’t like Lin and with such a loaded team Lin would see much minutes for sure. Not to mention they treated him badly when they first got him, never go back to a team who treated you bad.

  • Jamie

    the only good iso guys are Durant, Paul George and maybe Harden and Kyrie
    Kemba is horrible
    I have very high standards for iso guys

  • Maknusia

    Portland are draining 3s to remain in the game…

  • Jamie

    Not really man, Lin was undrafted i understand what they did

  • JoeTeam

    JLin’s ISO is fine. When he has the ball facing his man, he can score at will.

  • JoeTeam

    Yeah Steph for 3.

  • joy

    Curry’s 1st 3 finally!

  • real-dsb

    Curry made his first 3 now

  • psalm234

    Curry checked back in and started cookin’ 3

    Good game here 🙂

  • real-dsb

    Kept his streak alive

  • Maknusia

    he must feel good with that 3…go SCurry

  • sws94

    He has a lot of moves revealed on his 15-16 highlight video. He just needs to remember to dip into his bag of tricks and is usually more effective when his shot is falling. Thing with Lin is, a lot of times a much bigger defender and multiple defenders are put on him.

  • sport

    refs want Blazers to win, that was a flop not offensive foul! Curry’s 2nd 3 should’ve counted!

  • JoeTeam

    I do think refs are calling this team POR.

  • sws94

    Lillard is a big-time scorer but doesn’t make his teammates better. He’s another scoring PG type, Curry is better at involving his teammates. With Davis, Lillard could do more with him. But Lillard makes clutch 4Q shots.

  • JoeTeam

    the problem is, on CHA, if he start to volume score, the team gets antsy. Look on GSW … they celebrate when KT is hot. They feed the hot hand. Same with Curry, even Mo Buckets. Everybody gets to be a hotshot on GSW, no hard feelings. On CHA, it’s a weird culture. Only KW or Batum get to jack shots.

  • sws94

    Well it sure looks like home-cooking at the very least.

  • sws94

    Al, another designated scorer.

  • JoeTeam

    Al passed to Lin when he couldn’t back his man down.

  • Maknusia

    foul game coming up

  • sws94

    Good thing Curry was reactivated this game. If GSW wins, it’s because they did.

  • sws94

    Al wasn’t bad. He’d find Lin on cuts as well. It’s his D that was terrible.

  • sws94

    So what should Kerr do now? I wouldn’t chance playing Curry too many more minutes. You have to think long-term.

  • Maknusia

    OT!!!! gonna be interesting

  • sws94

    They have Livingston.

  • Maknusia

    The thing is we really dont know his condition…

  • real-dsb

    didn’t like the iso by Curry

  • CJSHYY

    But Green has 5 fouls.

  • sws94

    25 minutes was the original plan off of the bench. He’s exceeded that with the Livingston ejection. Now it is going into OT. 5 more minutes, roll the dice.

  • sport

    aww OT? GSW and Curry please make it quick!

  • JoeTeam

    he had a v good look, his normal high glass works.

  • sws94

    Looked like a broken play.

  • joy

    What a game!

  • sws94

    Curry 5 points already in OT.

  • joy

    This is such a close game. Curry may want to stay on the court…

  • sws94

    Blazers are playing well. Another 2 for Curry.

  • sport

    The Curry Show in OT !!! WOOT!

  • sws94

    9 in OT for Curry.

  • sws94

    Curry is unreal. 12 points in OT.

  • Maknusia

    here comes the 3s

  • joy

    OMG! He’s the only one that is scoring!

  • sport

    CURRY!!!!!!! That 3 pointer totally did it! He’s BACK!!!!

  • real-dsb

    I think Curry missed the final shot in regulation on purpose LOL

  • JoeTeam

    effin’ unreal.

  • Maknusia

    could have been for the Quarter?!

  • psalm234

    Curry scored 12 straight points in the OT.
    Simply Amazing!

    123-118

  • HVJoy

    the Warriors bench response was hilarious!

  • JoeTeam

    he’s my JLin surrogate all season. I watch CHA play ugly bball, then I watch GSW and Curry is Lin to me. That’s how this season went.

  • sws94

    A little different response to that Harden made shot, lol.

  • psalm234

    He looked at Lillard and McCollum 42-43 min and said, “I got THIS!”
    LOL

  • sws94

    Curry 35 points.

  • real-dsb

    and an off reb!

  • psalm234

    Amazing to see how Curry can score with array of moves, offensive rebound, 3s, etc.

  • real-dsb

    that was incredible defense by KT on Lillard

  • JoeTeam

    At will, psalm. A champion!

  • sws94

    He sure did and he’s scored 12 points so far. 15 points, hit another 3.

  • real-dsb

    that was sickkkkkk

  • Maknusia

    The differentiator!

  • sws94

    Curry is MVP. One of the most incredible players I’ve ever watched.

  • JoeTeam

    fever sick!

  • sport

    Curry the man!!! He your face cocky Lillard! 3-1 GSW, Blazers can pack their bags for next game tonight!

  • real-dsb

    I don’t think Curry should be doing jumping hip checks lol

  • psalm234

    He worked so hard at it .. Gotta tip our hat off to him 🙂
    Total Domination

  • JoeTeam

    so glad you are not missing this game … a great game.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I doubt that and frankly, I wouldn’t want to find out…I want to see Lin play for more than 25 minutes.

    Also, Kerr was one of many who were annoyed at all the attention Lin was getting during Linsanity days as a Knicks.

  • real-dsb

    this should be 17 for Curry in OT

  • real-dsb

    a poor man’s Jeremy Lin =p

  • Maknusia

    Phew…What A Game!!!

  • Briiick

    Lillard is a very clutch volume shooter, but Curry is at another level.

  • sport

    40 points in 37 mins and coming back for the first time from injury! All Curry in OT right out the game just sick!

  • HVJoy

    !

  • real-dsb

    9 reb, 8 ast, almost a triple double

  • joy

    No doubt, Curry is the STAR tonight. Nearly triple double!

  • sport

    Loser hero ball and cocky too, don’t like him!

  • HVJoy

    “The game that’s worth staying up for!”

    What an impressive show Curry put up!

  • JoeTeam

    phew is right!

  • real-dsb

    17 pts in OT is all time NBA record for OT

  • sport

    Amazing OT show, offensive rebound put back, layup, 3s, everything!

  • Briiick

    Never like these “volume shooters”, almost equal to stat padders.

  • CJSHYY

    Curry is incredible.

  • HVJoy

    Curry makes it seem “so effortless” – TNT commentator.

  • sport

    And he made it seem so effortless, entire game I was worried more for his health. Still hope Steve rest Curry more for next game, he looks great better safe than sorry.

  • joy

    Feel bad for Lillard. He was the star before Curry got fire!

  • joy

    He’s Cusanity in OT!! 🙂

  • Briiick

    9-30

  • sport

    selfish iso player 9-30 says it all just like Kemba!

  • CJSHYY

    Indeed.

  • sport

    Too bad JLin’s 3 point shooting isn’t as good as Curry’s. He’s better at the rim and on d but really need to get his 3 point going with this quicker release form.

  • real-dsb

    usually needs to be underhand, and higher up the glass! 🙂

  • sws94

    Steff takes a lot of shots, but he makes huge ones and passes to his team mates a lot. Lillard doesn’t see his team mates well or pass to them well. He’s a scorer, not much of a facilitator or floor general.

  • JoeTeam

    Nobody shoots 3s as well as Curry. JLin did ok in HOU. He’ll have another year of good 3s.

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    I love it when he does it with the left and then marches back looking at this left hand.

  • CJSHYY
  • joy

    That’s right. He was. I don’t think he’ll trust Lin if there’s prejudge there.

  • HVJoy

    Your secret is out – GSW + Curry therapy for CHA ugly bball trauma. Lol.

  • sws94

    It’s not only that he just hits 3 pointers. He has all of the incredible moves and creates shots off of those moves off the dribble. That’s the thing that truly sets him apart. And he can drive to the hole and pass with either hand very well at any time in motion.

  • Briiick

    When Lin was at the driver’s seat, Rox blew out GSW almost breaking a record.

  • joy

    The only reason GSW signed Lin was to attract Asian market. They didn’t value him at all.

  • Maknusia

    he will he will…rest assured 😉

  • JoeTeam

    it’s true … that’s now I survived getting knocked down some days by CHA, looking to relax from work stress. Curry therapy, and I don’t feel guilty at all because it’s the way JLin wanted to play his whole career. Those 2 being friends helps a lot.

  • Maknusia

    Lin shoots off dribble well compared to his catch and shoot

  • Maknusia

    That has nothing to do with kerr….just saying 😉

  • Uh-Oh

    人啊,顺风顺水的时候,意气风发,就是这样无法阻挡。I hope Jeremy lin’s time will come like this soon.

  • CJSHYY

    I am happy for Curry but also feel upset by why Lin was so bad luck…. when he’s in Rox, GSW & Curry was not that good. But Curry got his coach & whole team behind him…. he is really improved a lot…. I hope Lin can have his playing time & freedom on court next season.

  • Uh-Oh

    Haha. You and I just have the same thought.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Curry didn’t shoot well in 1st half but like TP said took w 20 shots he will get his rhythm… Of course, Curry is really great shooter.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I saw they played live back then but now….

  • HVJoy

    Smart way to overcome post CHA game blues! Also it’s great to see “good guy” win. I wish there were a GSW and Curry in NY. LOL.

  • sws94

    Lin will shine. I always say that. And he has some. But brighter to come. It’ll look different from Curry’s but if he stays healthy, he will.

  • HVJoy

    His time will come.

  • JoeTeam

    each person has his/her own journey.it’s all good.

  • JoeTeam

    barkley said this was amazing, 2.5 quarters back from injury in playoffs to get that OT performance.

  • JoeTeam

    I was there!

  • sport

    Hopefully next season will finally be the team and coach Lin can settle down in!

  • CJSHYY

    I think after took so many shots, he got his rhythm back. He’s really great shooter. Amazing!

  • real-dsb

    “The only reason GSW signed Lin was to attract Asian market. They didn’t value him at all.”

    I’m sure marketing was part of the reason, but it was not the main reason GSW signed Lin. Joe Lacob personally believed in Lin’s basketball skills and potential. But he was being a “good” owner and not micromanaging his coach (Keith Smart) and GM (Larry Riley). He let Smart do his thing and then evaluate his performance at the end of the year. Smart and Riley were the ones who didn’t believe in Lin.

    Then after the season he hired Jerry West as another team executive, and West did not believe in Lin either. In their attempt to lure DeAndre Jordan, he cut Lin to gain some cap space. (So that makes 2 times that DeAndre indirectly screwed over Lin).

  • JoeTeam

    If you are a Knicks fan, you still have to suffer until Melo leaves lol. sry.

  • CJSHYY

    Really hope so. It’s about time… so unfair…. smh!

  • JoeTeam

    Joe Lacob’s son pushed Joe for it because he played against JLin in Palo Alto leagues.

  • JoeTeam

    Postgame: Curry said he got frustrated with the missed layup to win the game in regulation, so he went for it in OT. Also said he felt his knee, but it didn’t hurt. Was off his feet for first week, then worked really hard his last 4 days.

    He ended it by saying he was amazed he had the confidence to go out and play that way.

    On Barnes’ 3 to tie, reporters asked how he could trust him because Barnes hadn’t shot well. “Confidence is contagious” That’s what JLin and Curry instill in their team – they keep giving them the chance to Win. Remember CLee’s winning shot? In motion pass back from Lin, when Lee was shooting poorly.

    Amazing Curry, Amazing guys.

  • sws94

    Or do like I do. Don’t follow the Knicks until Melo leaves.

    Oh yeah, there were a few weeks when some guy name Jeremy Lin was playing, I was a fan then.

  • HVJoy

    You said it. Sigh.

  • Michael

    If you can’t “feel” your knees that’s actually very serious.

  • sport

    Think you mean he was touching his knee and it didn’t hurt? Not feeling his knee does not sound good.

  • CJSHYY

    Happy for GSW to get the win but also very surprised to see Portland could play that well w/o three good players on the team-Aldridge, Matthews, & Batum.

  • JoeTeam

    basketball hugs then, bro code.

  • Michael

    Which is weird cause Batum left to play with Kemba??

  • JoeTeam

    or maybe watch Porz grow into ADavis Jr.

  • CJSHYY
  • sport

    Curry went 16-32 in only 37min way better than Lillard’s 9-30.

  • Maknusia

    lol…lost of word….for sure…the way he was shooting…crazy

  • joy

    Thanks for the info. That shows you how the coach and GM play big part of this. The Rockets is another example. Lin’s NBA career is much challenging than other players I’d say.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Even Lillard got more than 30 pts but 1/3 from FT.

  • CJSHYY

    He’s & it’s hard to guard him too.

  • sport

    LOL too funny!

  • JoeTeam

    I was amazed at their shooting and their backcourt. Aminu too.

    GSW made a lot of rushed plays. If there’s a weakness, it’s the ‘circus play’ mentality that Kerr always says they have to keep under control. Time after time, a good stop or steal and then a rushed handle for TOV.

  • CJSHYY

    Aminu is good. I really think Cuban has no brain to let him walked…..

  • JoeTeam

    The question was if he felt his knee bothering him during the game. The way he said it was he felt his knee, but it didn’t hurt. So what he meant was he could feel the injury, but it didn’t hurt and then he went on to say he would be working on it tomorrow with trainers and would do that throughout the playoffs.

  • JoeTeam

    Awake and we can feel our knees lol. !

  • JoeTeam

    he cooked his defenders in the last 2 minutes to turn it up about 100 degrees. JLin does not have those handles, he does it differently. I can’t wait to see Lin handle last 2 minutes again. Both are winners, one does it by cooking (Chef Curry) and the other does it by Linning!

  • sws94

    Yes. Different, but I love to watch Win Lin.

  • sport

    Batum is 1 year rental, doubt he’d sign with Hornets.

  • sws94

    Porz is the future.

  • Rick Johnson
  • psalm234

    JLin tweeted props to Curry and Lillard
    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/729910282001092608

  • psalm234
  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    kobe and harden shouldn’t have been an all-star

  • JoeTeam

    JLin is a nice guy lol

  • Brent Yen

    He is friend of both……

  • Maknusia

    lol…curry is cooking?!

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m not so nice though haha

  • Maknusia

    Both are his friends

  • Maknusia

    first half Lebron, second half Steph

  • Steppen03

    SC30 & GS Warriors – Please Two-Peat… I’ve been rooting for the entire season. Finals MVP = SC30 or Klay.
    Props to Cavs tho – they’re shooting really well and Two Sweeps – that’s really good. Same like the Heat (made more 3’s than Hornets). Cavs Vs GS is going to be a real battle.

  • Maknusia

    Stephen Curry Full Highlights 2016 WCSF Game 4 at Blazers – AMAZING 40 Pts, 17 in OT, He’s BACK!

  • Maknusia

    Lin is pretty close to KOPA….he had evaluated well couple of Lin’s game and how its best to use him

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Mark Cuban is not known for making sound decision. Here Parsons Chandler is going to opt out. How much he had invested on that dude?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    What a jerk!

  • CJSHYY
  • Maknusia

    wow…..true gentleman and sportsmanship

  • CJSHYY

    Bc Curry is that good now… you have to admit that….

  • David Kim

    Maybe he is best shooter of all time?

  • grover chang

    He says what Lebron knows but could not say. The whole season lebron has been chasing curry. Lebrons mood effects his team’s mood. Now that curry is back on the scene I expect the cavs to go into another funk.

    Each big moment curry has, I think lebron and the cavs will feel more rushed.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t wait to see GSW vs Cav in final bc this year Cav really plays well in playoff maybe bc Love & Irving are back.

  • CJSHYY
  • Jamie

    not at will
    when they pack the pain he cant do much
    Lin doesnt take contested shots and his jumper is still a bit inconsistent
    he’s more of a 5 on 5 player than an iso player

  • Maknusia

    there is no denying how good SCurry is!

  • lleepar

    Curry is great. He also is given the luxury of shooting through a dry spell to get in rhythm. JLin often isn’t given the chance to find his rhythm if he doesn’t come off the bench hot and produce immediately. This article says Curry missed his first NINE 3’s.
    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241850/Stephen-Curry-Misses-First-Nine-3s-Scores-17-In-Overtime

  • Maknusia

    I was just reading couple of report…hmmmm….he went for a plasma treatment…thats kinda worrying….really hope nothing serious and doesn’t require surgery

  • Maknusia

    There is no point in comparing…both are in different system and situation…Jeremy is doing what he could given his situation

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Curry has playing time & unlimited shoot # on court but if you are a bench player no… Just like what TParker said… ” it’s our job, even if we get three shots, four shots, we have to make them. That’s a tough life. For me, I used to get 15 or 20 shots, so I got time to get a rhythm. When you get four shots, you have to make them. “

  • lleepar

    I think Tony Parker correctly sums up JLin’s situation, and I also agree that Curry’s situation and JLin’s situation are not comparable. That said, JLin’s stats are being compared and ranked among all PGs in various message boards across the internet. When he falls short in the numbers, the posters never seem to take into account that he’s playing SG a large part of the time, and that he isn’t given the luxury of getting into rhythm that the starters are given.

  • CJSHYY

    Agree. TParker got his 15 to 20 shots back after the complain…. Hope Lin can have his time soon.

  • sws94

    He played off-guard almost 70 percent last season, ran point about 30 percent. Overall I think Lin shoots less than some other players. There are few times Lin gets in the 15-20 FGA range even as a starter. Other players tend to keep putting them up.

    There are those in the league that see him as a 2-position guard and others as primarily a PG. How he’s used I think in the future depends on how the organization sees him and what he agrees to with them.

  • Jamie

    LeBron is a better overall player
    He’s better than curry in almost all aspects but shooting Curry’s shooting is just too good

  • Jamie

    He and Lillard are friends?

  • Jamie

    Harden deserved it but Kobe yah…he has way too many fans in asia
    Lillard over Klay it should be
    but it was also his last season
    Lillard wil makeit next year

  • sws94

    I agree.

  • DX

    Knicks Rumors: Jeremy Lin would bring ‘immediate value’ to New York

    Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/122407/20160510/knicks-rumors-jeremy-lin-bring-immediate-value-new-york.htm#ixzz48GyW10ot

  • JoeTeam

    what;s plasma treatment do? I can look it up, just if you know something unique.

  • Phillycheese

    But look who’s on Lillard’s team. Not much except for Mccullum.

  • JoeTeam

    His ISO is fine in context of a team game. Yes, he does not want to take the team on his back. If you watched Steph last night, he got his scoring spurt with others. Draymond said he took over OT, as did everyone. Yet, Draymond gave him one great screen from a baby feed 3, and also a feed on the fast break layup.

  • JoeTeam

    everyone is not so nice taken off context, sometimes … it’s a % think like FG% lol.

  • JoeTeam

    this is true and you need a team that wants output from each other. .

    Last night with Curry, every single fan and team mate and coaching wanted Steph to score and be ‘back’ and he came back in last 2 mins and OT as the desire would. We just gotta look for the team that JLin picks, and hope they want what he wants.

  • JoeTeam

    when did TP say that?

  • JoeTeam

    wow, when did he say that? In his post game? Good guy, called out Bev on national TV, then this. I wouldn’t blame him for playing indiv game. He and CJ were good, as was Aminu. Their team game just doesn’t have enough to outplay a clicking GSW. It gets close because GSW beats themselves with terrible TOVs and early shots. That’s what Kerr is saying when he says “circus plays”

  • JoeTeam

    good observation, I’ve never thought of that!

  • JoeTeam

    brent, time to send the kids?

  • CJSHYY

    What did he say about PB?

  • JoeTeam

  • real-dsb

    Probably through the Adidas connection.

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Finally someone dare to speak out about PB… that’s not D more like harassment. Calvin Murphy wants his job so bad in Rox or what… smh!

  • takeme2cruz

    Who the heck is yibada (popup Ads all over the place, stay away)? Does he write his opinions from mom’s basement? Even worse, called his opinions Knicks Rumors?

  • takeme2cruz

    I missed the rivalry time like Lakers vs Celtics or Bulls vs Knicks or Knicks vs Miami etc….This day you don hear players and coaches expressed their true feeling toward their opponent anymore.

  • Lefon Jang

    Steph was 5/16 from the 3s. That’s only 31%. If Lin’s allowed to take 16 shots from beyond the arc I’m sure he gets 30pts a game. Lin needs to be a starter to get the minutes to begin with, and the offense has to run through him regardless he’s point or off guard.

  • real-dsb

    Curry winning MVP was a foregone conclusion. But being unanimous was surprising, given that there’s always one voter who will dissent just for the sake of making it non-unanimous. Not even Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem, etc got unanimous votes.

    And it’s not because there wasn’t another worthy MVP candidate. Leonard had an MVP worthy season if it weren’t for Curry.

    A future 2-time MVP’s opinion of Jeremy back in 2011:
    https://twitter.com/StephenCurry30/status/145309263886163968

  • sws94

    I know Davis is there and is doing pretty well. Overall, I think his team could benefit from more ball-movement and Lillard setting up team mates up more.

  • lleepar

    Parker was talking about his own situation. Buy CJSHYY applied it to JLin’s situation, and I agree it’s applicable. You can read Parker’s quote near the end of the following article …
    http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-offense-seeks-higher-participation-rates-7395947.php

  • CJSHYY

    I totally agree Lin needs to be a starter bc as a bench… your playing time is too short for you to get into rhythm…and if you don’t make the 3 or 4 shots you will not see the ball again.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK will not bring Lin back. PJ only wants his triangle system ….they don’t need Lin. Not good fit either.

  • psalm234

    @DavidWorlock
    8 of the top 10 vote getters in the @NBA MVP voting played multiple seasons of college basketball.

    https://twitter.com/DavidWorlock/status/730073699559280641

  • psalm234

    Total MVP Voting Points
    Harden and Lowry look a bit out of place
    https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/730069244243787778

  • real-dsb

    I’m just surprised one rogue voter didn’t cast a vote for Kobe LOL

  • sws94

    I’d put Draymond above Westbrook and all under him.

  • donsmacau

    Recall that JLIN said in his post that he couldn’t bear to watch playoff games after Clifford un-surreptitiously denied JLIN the chance to close Miami Heat in Gm 6 & 7…

    … this says that JLIN is beginning to resolve the pain, moving forward and can return to watching playoff games.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m surprised that Chris Paul has fallen behind so much.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s interesting to note that the only game that Kemba Walker missed last season was the game against the Cavaliers, the only team that Walker has never won. In comparison, Nic Batum the other play maker has missed lots more games than Kemba. Walker played in 81 out of 82 games and averaged 35.6 minutes. Now we’re told that he had torn his meniscus. I’m amazed at the minutes that he had played last season. What could amaze me more is Lin actually help the Hornets took the game from Cavaliers.

    That I can say is Lin as the backup of Walker would definitely start more games if Walker rested more often.

  • JoeTeam

    thanks!

  • Phillycheese

    That was what many were saying. Kemba should have played 32 min and not 36. Lin would then get the 16 min that Kemba is not on the floor plus some time playing alongside him to get to around 24 min.

  • JoeTeam

    That was 2 yrs ago … just before the playoffs, maybe.

  • JoeTeam

    LOL Harden … might as well put JLin on that list everybody with zeros. Next year! 5th on list … jk

  • JoeTeam

    that is a great point! I believe too many kids are skipping out on what college can give them … for just cash. I know there could be big injuries, but nothing like gaining team experience.

  • JoeTeam

    I love the Steph / Lin relationship. I wish everyone here would love it too, as I have gotten some blowback from people who think just because Steph is doing great and a good guy, that it somehow takes something away from JLin. Actually, I think i really is good they are good friends off the court and social media, where they would ne ne with his daughter and have a drink before a game (in bay area, in yr 1 of Rox).

  • sws94

    Curry came in as a bench player last night. This is why I say starting or not doesn’t matter, it all boils down to minutes and involvement. And I’m all for Lin getting the proper minutes and involvement. But not minutes without involvement.

    The whole issue is starting being tied to minutes/involvement. Take that away, it doesn’t matter.

  • real-dsb

    Award winning writer Gene Luen Yang is writing a nonfiction graphic novel about a California basketball team with an Asian American player who upsets perennial powerhouse Mater Dei to win the state championship!

    Sound familiar? Alas, it’s about Bishop O’Dowd 2014-15 team. =) Maybe next book Yang can write a prequel about Palo Alto 2005-06 team. =)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2016/05/07/exclusive-gene-luen-yang-to-publish-his-first-nonfiction-graphic-novel-ever-dragon-hoops-in-2018/

  • spiderman

    Calvin Murphy is obviously not too bright

  • JoeTeam

    the step cooking show at 4:15

  • JoeTeam

    Lebron has to win to remain on top. If he loses, he’s relevant but lost his chance to the next generation. Such is life …

  • JoeTeam

    I didn’t even bother listening to CM because Lilliard was just to real …

  • real-dsb

    Honestly though, Harden deserved some non-1st place votes for MVP this year (based on how MVP voters usually vote). His numbers were even higher this year than last year when he was 2nd place MVP (more pts, ast, reb). MVP votes tend to go to ball dominant players who score a lot of points.

    What hurt Harden in the MVP voting was how far below expectations the Rockets performed. So it was good that the voters recognized that.

  • JoeTeam

    I disagree lol.

  • real-dsb

    who’s the other besides LeBron that didn’t play multiple years of college?

  • spiderman

    The more Lin is tied to great team players the better. Curry always seems to have a great attitude toward Lin, which should be the norm. Not sure why any fan should feel threatened by that

  • JoeTeam

    Curry coming in as bench player does not prove your point. He was the needed star coming back into a tough game to test out his knee. He did say after that it was really hard to get started off the bench (we don’t give Lin enough credit here).

    Later when SL was ejected, there was no choice. The team needed Steph to get going, and they had to get him going or lose. He was I think 0-9 on 3s, rusty. Then he hit his first 3 with 4 min to go, then started cooking chef style with 2 mins go to. He missed what he normally easily makes for a game winning layup. He said in interviews later what got him going in the OT was him being really mad at missing that layup.

    So:

    1. He was a starter getting planned minutes to come back from a risky injury
    2. SL ejected, so he had to get up to 37 mins from planned 25
    3. Whole team worked hard to get him going, and they kept at it holding close until 2 mins in reg. Then Steph got hot and took over.

    JLin NEVER gets that treatment, because he’s not a starter. Nobody else would challenge Steph once he made a couple. If JLin gets hot, coming off the bench, KW or Batum would not really support that, and you know that by no teamwork with JLin. And then Cliff benches him too.

  • JoeTeam

    I know, right? But it happens on the boards.

  • JoeTeam

    No soup for Harden!, bro. He doesn’t play D, isn’t a good team leader, etc. The MVP is supposed to include a guy who makes his team better. It’s not just about the scoring. He made his team really bad, so the press just voted against that kind of team leader.

  • JoeTeam

    kinda expected, everyone has to work on what is trending. Great share, though.

  • JoeTeam

    evaluating people’s choices rather than what one is born with are more interesting ways to discriminate good vs bad.

  • sws94

    If you don’t tie in minutes/involvement with starting, starting doesn’t matter. That’s the point. Of course, the team/coach all have to buy-in to whoever gets the minutes whenever they enter the game.

    Lin need not be anything but counted on with the right minutes/involvement to make his mark. That’s why he’s had strong games both starting and off the bench.

  • sws94

    Team Lillard. I often liked Murphy because he seemed to be pro-Lin but I think he’s being ridiculous here. It’s not that era and Beverley was being excessive.

  • sws94

    Cavaliers weren’t a winning team and LeBron came in and brought them to the finals. I don’t know if any other player in the NBA could do that. LeBron has the defense/rebounding to go along with the playmaking and go-to scoring combo that I think is overall tops in the game.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Morey couldn’t do anything about it this year.

  • Jamie

    Durant needs to leave WB lol
    hes a much better player but WB way too selfish

  • Jamie

    Harden did play well this year

  • Jamie

    stats do matter to a lot of people
    he moved the ball better this year and he didnt receive and 1st place votes
    he still deserves some recognition the rockets were a mess this season and many injuries Harden is the only one who played they wouldnt have made the playoffs w/o him

  • vincent

    at 1:14 Jeremy brings up Kenny atkinson. Im now on board for Lin to Brooklin over 76ers lol

  • Lin Dunn

    Lets hope for a Lin/ Atkinson reunion soon

  • real-dsb

    Keremy AtLINson

  • Lin Dunn

    Has anyone seen this vid on Lin’s all 79 three pointers 2015-2016? Over the course of ~ 80 games (I believe he sat out at least one game due to injury), that is about one three pointer per game. How is this STAT comparing to other backup combo guards in the league?

  • vincent

    wow joseph lin plays similiar to jeremy pick and roll all day baby

  • BobbyH

    Lin sounded very raw and shy and cute. It was probably his first post game with media.

  • real-dsb

    cool, anyone know where to find his or the league’s stats?

  • real-dsb

    One thing I’m paying attention to is the draft, because teams that draft a PG in the top 10 will not need Lin’s services. (Or even if they did want a veteran PG to start the season, it’s only to hand the reins over to the rookie when he’s ready, probably mid season.)

    https://twitter.com/jlinposts/status/730175135869624320

  • Uh-Oh

    NO

  • Rick Johnson

    Steph Curry selling his house. That back yard tree house (image 4) is in JLin’s “How to Fit in the NBA” video so looks like it was filmed at Steph’s house:

    http://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Steph-Curry-puts-Orinda-home-on-market-for-3-895-7444269.php#photo-10020984

    https://youtu.be/izB8P8oyhJk?t=4m2s

  • real-dsb

    nice find!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Allen Lu (JLin’s cousin)’s comments this in his FB: Naturally there are two top plays where Jeremy gets hammered w/o calls. smile emoticon For top plays/games I’d also add in there the San Antonio game where Jeremy carried Charlotte on his back to victory as well as some from the playoff series against Miami.
    https://www.facebook.com/nba/videos/10153992374228463/

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Uh-Oh

    Lovely!

  • kauaiblue

    Psalm, can we get rid of charlotte colors? Jk…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOL You really can’t wait to get rid of Hornets for good:-) Guess we have to wait until JLin signs with a new team in July. Too much of hassles. Bear with this until then; about 2 months to go.

  • BobbyH

    I don’t mind having a interim summer color.

  • John Focker

    One of the few downsides of Jeremy leaving the Hornets is the broken hearts of his many extremely adorable junior fans in Charlotte.

  • John Focker

    Speaking of which, Sixers would make a better choice. If Jeremy went to Brooklyn, this site will literally become black and white! LOL

  • steven ko

    Very impressed with baby Lin’s ability to go right. he didn’t have that ability when he first started playing in the SBL

  • zxcvb

    In the mean time, let’s go with some neutral colors like, say, black and white…

  • sws94

    Looks related to Jeremy, has his own style. More wiry than Jeremy. More 3s, his big man looks like he has a good shot from range.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    LOL NETS

  • sport

    Technically that average is misleading for many games Kemba play more than 40+ minutes just to stat pad! So did Kemba actually get injured? Why didn’t the Hornets say anything?

  • sport

    Why? I appreciate both players for their skills.

  • sport

    Disagree, Curry has amazing dribbling and ball handling skills and his shooting is just a video-game. No doubt Curry’s the best player of this era! Lebron couldn’t even 3 peat with his Heat team and ditched them the moment things went bad. His overrated Cavs won’t bring him another ring unless they get lucky. So glad that hype and premature talk about Lebron “Legacy” is over!

  • sport

    No doubt Lebron now sees Curry as a rival! Too bad there’s no way he can chase Curry’s 3 point shooting skills who can also get to the rim with his amazing dribbles and ball handling, he has fast agility due to his physique!

  • sport

    Don’t like Lillard cause he’s too cocky but he speaks the truth.

  • sport

    So glad Steph’s back, only reason why Playoffs are exciting and worth watching without having to stomach volume shooters who bricks iso after iso!

  • BobbyH
  • kauaiblue

    CANNOT WAIT for him to get outta there… how about orange and brown for the time being… jk… lol

  • kauaiblue

    lol!

  • kauaiblue

    He’s the only other player other than JLin that i would pay to see! or watch on tv for that matter…

  • grover chang

    You may have stumbled on the best way to beat the warriors. Force curry to be iso and let him take all the shots. Don’t let his teammates score. See if his legs have the stamina to score 70. Let his teammates go cold and become disinterested in defense.
    Warrior slogan is ” strength in numbers “. Shrink that number to just one.

  • kauaiblue

    exceelent colors… wink wink…

  • takeme2cruz
  • sws94

    won’t work. The ball goes through D Green as well as Curry and their whole system has counters for loading up on Curry.

  • grover chang

    I saw curry bring the ball up. Don’t load up on him. Let him score and be the only one that touches the ball. You won’t stop him from scoring anyways. See if he had the stamina to keep shooting jump shots.

    On offense make him run through screens or have someone post up on him. The goal is by end of game his legs are tired from shooting and running. And his teammates have gone cold.

    It’s like an ambush. The conventional game didn’t work 73 times in the regular season. Time to do something completely different.

  • Dan Ang

    Wow, imagine the Lin bros in the NBA together! Keep grindin’ JoLin

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Man, look at how Pop is shewing Tony Parker…I truly don’t want Lin to be playing for Pop and the Spurs…Pop would go crazy on Lin and I doubt he’d let Lin play through mistakes and turnovers.

  • sport

    You realize that once Curry makes 1 shot or 2 he’s not going to miss AT ALL like those volume shooters. Those 3 pointers will create a crazy lead before the other team even has a chance. Also Curry isn’t the selfish type player so he will move the ball no matter what.

  • kauaiblue

    Calvin Murphy was always complimentary of JLin…

  • sws94

    Spurs are in trouble. Down 4 with only a few seconds left. LMA bad game. Spurs got too old, needed to change some players this year.

  • takeme2cruz

    This is the worst officiating ever. This new young group makes me miss the older one. Horrible NBA refs.

  • sws94

    RWB travelled. But Spurs haven’t executed down the stretch.

  • sws94

    Thunder up 3-2 in the series. Spurs better figure out something. And they are going back to OKC.

  • takeme2cruz

    That was a foul by Kawhi.

  • alain gervais

    duncan and parker should retire. Parker less so but he got maybe 2 years…maybe. I think at this point he is a back up

  • zxcvb

    Kawhi made a huge mistake. Instead of committing the obvious, hard foul, he tried to go for the Harden-swipe steal. So he didn’t get the call on the light contact. Then LMA got confused and watched Russ get all the way to the rim before fouling weakly for the and-one.

    Sad to say but the Big 3 might have run their course. I hope they come back and give GSW a series, but OKC has too many young, athletic bodies to throw at them. That’s how Lin engineered that epic comeback — just bludgeoned them with speed and strength. Can’t outsmart the Spurs, but they can be punished physically now.

  • Lin Dunn

    Wow that half court shot. Who is his shooting coach

  • sws94

    Duncan and Ginobili. Parker has good years left in him. But he needs another PG to play big minutes and have his minutes reduced. Mills isn’t the answer. And what Ginobili used to do to run the show when Parker sat he can’t do anymore.

  • David Kim
  • alain gervais

    It sucks their core is old. in the playoffs people play big minutes. So the stellar bench cant help

  • PPP

    looks like TD is gonna retire after the season. Sign Lin to start and move Parker to play off the bench. Trade Mills if they could but not easy. Sign Biyambo to protect the rim and got rebounds. Not sure if they have cap space to do it though.

  • Jamie

    Maybe. GSW is a very good team but curry without them, if curry had what Lebron had, that team would not be as good as GSW or the bulls
    Curry is a great player in his very own way but Lebron is a more complete player and physically talented. He will go down as one of the greatest players to ever play the game Curry might too but on an indivisual level, LeBron is way superior
    LeBron’s Legacy will not be over
    LeBron never had a team thats as good as the Bulls or GSW

  • John Focker

    Yes, they should figure out what kind of credit card the refs take. G2 was as crooked as the Leaning Tower of Pisa, especially those final moments.

  • sws94

    Not going to happen. I think if he goes to the Spurs, he doesn’t start, he replaces Ginobili. He does both relieve Parker for much of the game and bring the penetration and facilitation GInobili used to bring. I agree about bring another big man. They have no answer to Kanter.

  • alain gervais

    If chandler parson and dwight goes to dallas should Lin follow??

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    if Lin had signed with the Spurs instead of the Hornets, he’d be sitting real pretty right now. would probably overtaken TP as the starting point guard by this time. the Spurs need Lin

  • Maknusia

    Here’s a look at some of the more memorable MVP voting results in NBA history:

    ———

    2015-16: Stephen Curry gets all 131 first-place votes to become the NBA’s first unanimous MVP.

    2012-13: LeBron James got 120 of 121 first-place votes. The other went to Carmelo Anthony, who finished third. Kevin Durant took second, with no first-place nod.

    2004-05: Steve Nash’s first of two straight MVPs comes in a close race over Shaquille O’Neal. Nash got 65 first-place votes, O’Neal 58.

    2003-04: Kevin Garnett was within three votes of being the first unanimous MVP. He got 120, while Jermaine O’Neal got two (finishing third) and Peja Stojakovic got one (finishing fourth). Runner-up Tim Duncan got no first-place votes.

    2001-02: Tim Duncan won without a majority of the first-place votes. He got 57 of the 126 cast, while Jason Kidd gets 45, Shaquille O’Neal gets 15, Tracy McGrady gets seven, and Kobe Bryant and Gary Payton get one apiece.

    1999-2000: Shaquille O’Neal got 120 of 121 first-place votes. The other went to Allen Iverson, and he only finished seventh.

    1998-99: A trio of big men emerged as the favorites, and Karl Malone got the award after pulling in 44 first-place votes — enough to narrowly edge Alonzo Mourning (36) and Tim Duncan (30).

    1996-97: Michael Jordan beat Karl Malone in the NBA Finals that year, but not the MVP race. Malone got 63 first-place votes to help him edge runner-up Jordan, who got 52.

    1995-96: Michael Jordan got 109 of 113 first-place votes to win in a runaway, but not a unanimous decision. Anfernee Hardaway was the first-place pick of two voters (he finished third), while Hakeem Olajuwon (fourth) and Karl Malone (seventh) got single first-place votes.

    1989-90: Charles Barkley got more first-place votes than anyone else but didn’t get enough points to win. He finished second to Magic Johnson, who got 27 first-place votes. Barkley got 38, Michael Jordan (21 first-place votes) finished third — and four other players got at least one first-place nod.

    1985-86: For the second straight year, Larry Bird came five votes short of sweeping the voting. He was a runaway winner with 73 first-place votes, and Dominique Wilkins got the other five.

    1984-85: Larry Bird took 73 of the 78 first-place votes, the other five split between runner-up Magic Johnson (one), No. 5 Terry Cummings (two) and No. 6 Michael Jordan (two).

    1982-83: Moses Malone got 69 of 75 first-place selections, the other six going to No. 2 Larry Bird (one), No. 3 Magic Johnson (two) and No. 5 Julius Erving (three).

    1980-81: Julius Erving edged Larry Bird, with nine players around the league getting a vote from someone as MVP. Erving got 28 and Bird got 20.

    1977-78: In a year where 14 players got an MVP vote, Bill Walton (96) nipped George Gervin (80.5) for top honors.

    1975-76: One of the league’s all-time great MVP races, with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (52 first-place votes) edging runner-up Bob McAdoo (47) and third-place Dave Cowens (48) for the award. In all, 15 players got a first-place vote and 30 appeared somewhere on voters’ ballots.

    1969-70: Willis Reed scored 10 fewer points per game than Jerry West, but averaged nearly 10 more rebounds and was rewarded. Reed got 61 first-place votes, West got 51 and Reed took the trophy.

    1961-62: Wilt Chamberlain averaged 50.4 points, scored 100 in a single game — and didn’t win. He was second to Bill Russell, who got 51 first-place votes. Chamberlain finished second overall, but still had fewer first-place picks (nine) than Russell and even third-place finisher Oscar Robertson (13).

    1957-58: Bill Russell narrowly got the MVP pick over Dolph Schayes. Russell got 33 first-place votes, Schayes — who averaged 8.3 more points than Russell, but 8.5 fewer rebounds that season — 25.

    1956-57: Bob Cousy got just 36.5 percent of the vote and won anyway with 31 MVP votes. In all, 12 players got MVP votes.

  • sws94

    I don’t like either of them next to Lin. It’s just like Houston with no Harden and Parsons and Dwight older with health issues.

  • Jamie

    OKC is all iso but they somwhow beat the spurs.
    That’s how great Kevin Durant is. He’s the only player who can win the game for his team playing iso all day
    No other player in the league can.
    Watching low BBIQ CLifford, Kemba and Batum play ugly basketball was painful

  • alain gervais

    The issue is spurs have no money

  • sws94

    Westbrook, 35/9/11. Westbrook was huge in this game. And I don’t even care for him that much.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    forget replacing Manu on the bench. the starters aren’t playing Spurs ball with TP getting too slow/old and not getting to the rim. they need Lin to replace TP at the starting point guard position

  • John Focker

    CP25 considers himself Melo Jr., wants to play “point forward”.

  • sws94

    Ugh.

  • PPP

    If that’s the case, I would rather him joining the Nets assuming as starting pg. Unless the Spurs offer him like 10m per to replace Parker after may be 2 years.

    Parker really can’t guard anyone.

  • zxcvb

    No way. They’re both divas who only look out for themselves. I’m sure they’re nice and friendly off the court, but they don’t gel with Lin on the court. Parsons wants to be a ball-dominant SF and Dwight refuses to run PnR.

  • sws94

    They could do that, but I don’t think they would. I’m not against it.

  • alain gervais

    Take away harden and jones who also handle the ball Parson handlingg the ball sometime would be ok

  • Briiick

    How is Miller doing ?

  • Jamie

    He’s too self centred and he’s holding durant back
    He has no business taking 30 shots

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    OKC are simply a better at ISO than the Spurs. the Spurs can’t play their offense with TP getting to slow/old and can’t drive to the hole so the whole team has to play iso and they’re just not as good as OKC playing iso

  • alain gervais

    Dallas has a great coach. He only has 2.8 assist. HE doesn’t hold the ball a ton anymore. Watching Dallas games he doesn’t play like he did in Rox

  • sws94

    If you want to see playoff basketball with Lin’s best chance to go deepest in the playoffs, it’s the Spurs. If you want to see Lin have more opportunities to put up bigger stats, if Atkinson is something like MDA, and we don’t know exactly what type of system he runs, then it’s Nets. But there will be more teams that will offer Lin a starting PG position IMO.

  • PPP

    we don’t know Spurs actually were interested in the first place last summer though.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Mills doing what Mills do best.. just a backup caliber player

  • alain gervais

    Yes he does

  • zxcvb

    Spurs is the “worst case scenario” that I wouldn’t hate. If he can’t get a starting job anywhere, then being the 6th man for a soon-retiring Parker is okay. He could help them win a title and take over in another year.

  • alain gervais

    He is a freak. Saying that he isn’t a PG

  • CJSHYY

    I am so upset now why Spurs lose the game…. smh! I hate RW & OKC. Why they won this one… really worry about Spurs will loss this series.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yeah, they had already spent all of their money on LMA and got lucky with David West on the cheap. they didn’t think Lin would sign for $2 Mil or that would have been much better than West at $2 Mil

  • sws94

    Dwight Howard is doing a good job on Inside the NBA.

  • CJSHYY

    NO, CP wants to in charge the ball… he thinks himself it’s the face of Mav’s future… None.

  • John Focker

    IIRC, Pops openly dissed D’Antoni’s offensive system in the past. Lin’s likely off the list just by association.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    maybe, but they still gotta recognize talent, fit, and character. Lin fits them like a glove

  • CJSHYY

    No playing time for him as usual.

  • alain gervais

    Mavs coach doesn’t allow that style of play..

  • zxcvb

    Carlisle is great, but Cuban’s actions last year raise major red flags. Choosing broken down D-Will over Lin and signing post-injury Wes Matthews for 17M per year??? Brooklyn and even Philly would rank waaaay ahead of Dallas in my mind.

    Now, if the only options are starting in Dallas with Parsons/Dwight and being 6th man for the Spurs…then that’s a decision worth debating.

  • CJSHYY

    Cuban likes CP. Mavs coach has to do it no matter he likes it or not…. None. Mav is bad place to land. Plus DW maybe will stay too.

  • John Focker

    Agreed on 2.5 out of 3. Talent and character for sure, fit remains to be seen…

  • sws94

    Dwight addressing playing in Houston. Says he likes being involved. Always interested in the game. When he takes himself out of the game, it’s own him. Didn’t answer the question about playing with Harden.

  • alain gervais

    philly h*** no but yea brooklyn is good idea. Still dallas got in the playoffs with that team is crazy. Drill average 14 points in dallas. What could Lin do in the system. Id say a lot. The issue is money

  • alain gervais

    i watch dallas play. HE doesn’t play Point forward. He has 2.8 assist a game. Batum has 5 assist a game. In dallas he is straight shooting forward

  • Briiick

    Now that people realize how important Parker-prime is to Pop’s system, as much as TD.

  • sws94

    Why are posters so big on Brooklyn? Atkinson’s coaching style and system are a complete unknown and there’s nothing really spectacular about the team’s personnel.

    Looking at Lin in the playoffs, I would hope he goes deep as possible next year. I don’t see that happening in Brooklyn. In fact, if they made the playoffs and win a few games that would be a big lift to them.

  • PPP

    Not really just put up bigger stats for lin but wants him to play freely with trust from the coach. Nets went to the playoff 2 seasons ago with two deinterested player in Deron Williams and Joe Johnson.

    The Nets have 2 young players in RHJ (rookie last season) and Gilpatrick (undrafted) I really like. With Lin at the helm, they have a chance to sneak in to the 8th spot.

    For Spurs, it all depends on how much they offer if not for a starting spot. If something like a MLE, he could be just a back up like Mills which I do not like. But who knows.

  • alain gervais

    third worst in the nba. so yea. I think Lin will look for a team in the playoffs or just out. Brooklyn would have to sign a few people first.

  • alain gervais

    Dwight broke his nose?

  • sws94

    But are we assuming that Atkinson is something like MDA? IMO, that’s an unknown. How he is as a head coach remains to be seen.

    I’m more thinking of the playoffs and how Lin made a big splash with his excellent play this post-season. I’d love to see him go deep into the playoffs, not maybe get into the 8th spot. If Lin can somehow find a way to play to his strengths, get the involvement and minutes he deserves, on a team that is likely to go deep into the playoffs, I more lean to that team. And that’s even though I’d be able to go to the Brooklyn games to watch him a few games in the season.

  • Jamie

    They are way too talented to lose to the spurs

  • PPP

    they have traded their big man (forgot his name) to make room for LMA. they needed a back up big than a back up pg. they believed Mills may be enough. They won a ring with Mills as a back up.

  • sws94

    And still the coach’s style and effectiveness is a big question mark? He may be fantastic, he may struggle. Who knows?

  • Jamie

    OKC too athletic for them
    they need a new younger faster PG

  • Cycloben

    If they are offering Jeremy the most, why not? There is no certainty in the nba, because at any time the front office might demote Jeremy, no matter what the coach says. So Jeremy might as well take the most cash.

  • sws94

    I don’t see anything wrong with his nose.

  • alain gervais

    Lin with Carlisle would be greta. He would teach Lin alot

  • Jamie

    Lin Matthews Parsons Dirk DH12
    not bad but will Lin be able to take even 10shots a game?
    and this team is pretty similar to the portland trailblazers last season

  • vincent

    spurs could have won if aldridge showed up. so incredibly frustrating to watch

  • sws94

    I agree with that. I more lean toward the established coach. And I also lean toward the systems that run more like Spurs/GSW. One assistant coach I have faith in is Bill Walton taking over for the Lakers. I’m curious to see how he’ll do with them and the system they’ll run. I expect a huge improvement over the tank commander.

  • Jamie

    He shouldnt be their 1st option

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    exactly! agreed. they need to play Spurs offense and that requires a younger faster PG who can get to the hole and open up the whole floor for the crisp passing

  • PPP

    true that no body knows about Ackinson can be a good hc (complete difference from an assistant coach. No one even know whether he wants Lin as his starting pg. But if he does, its the chance for Lin.

    If he is just looking for playing deep in the playoffs or even win a ring, Warriors a much better chance to win one. Shaun Livingston is a free agent and he may leave for more money.

  • Jamie

    Melo didnt play point forward he just likes to iso

  • alain gervais

    Bulls would be interesting if he is a starter. Still beggars cant be chooser. Lin needs a starting job first. He cant talk his way into a starting spot on a chip team. Unless they don’t have a lot of money. So a team like Brooklyn or phyla maybe the choice. Maybe milwakee.

  • PPP

    btw, re to the system that Atkinson is running most likely the P&R. I read it somewhere but can’t remember. May be in NetsDaily.

  • John Focker

    Sure, 100M/4yr then we’ll talk. But I don’t see it happening.

  • John Focker

    I’m actually higher on Sixer than Nets, if it makes you feel any better… 🙂

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree that Brooklyn would be a better destination for Lin because he’d be higher in the pecking order as for how many shots he takes and how much will he handle the ball.

    In Dallas, they still have PG’s like Barea, Felton and Harris that Carlistle love to play but my guess is if they get Lin, one of these guys will have to leave and Carlistle also love to play 2 PG line-up, so my guess is Lin still gets to play much more than in Charlotte.

    I would still worry about the amount of shots Lin would get with too many people in front of him..You’d have Norwitzki, Parson, Howard and $17M man Wesley Matthews.

  • alain gervais

    Im really really low on them

  • CaliUSMC

    Spurs looked old and slow. Need some Lin in their rotation!!

  • John Focker

    Ain’t diversity great? LOL

  • PPP

    May be its just me. I like it if it comes true. Simply because Carlisle, a great coach, better than Doc Rivers. IMHO.

    But having said that, assume Lin is the starting pg with a big contract. haha

  • Cycloben

    I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

  • grover chang

    Duncan, Parker, ginobli >> Aldridge, Leonard

  • grover chang

    I see what you are doing. Vote up.

  • John Focker

    “Playing point” almost synonymous with ISO these days (because of the ball-hogging nature), when not many can actually do the job. Just look at Kemba!

  • John Focker

    You must’ve missed last July…

  • grover chang

    He may hog the ball but love watching Westbrook play because it’s like watching a superhero.

  • Cycloben

    You must have missed your English lessons, because you can not write more than one snide nondescript sentence.

  • Briiick

    When they are two years younger.

  • sws94

    PG’s function/role is changing. Basketball is changing. A lot of scoring is coming form that position now and some PG type of functions are now going to PF types like Draymond Green. Look at many of the big PGs, Irving, Lillard, Westbrook, Curry, all are big scorers and only Curry really does a lot of facilitating. Westbrook dishes off of aggressiveness, sometimes he gets a lot of assists.

  • sws94

    I get that!

  • spiderman

    You mean Luke right?

  • alain gervais

    The more i think about it. The top option is Brooklyn. Thats his best shot of being the guy or a top 3 option. Sixers is there as well. I do believe dallas is up there still He won’t get a ton of shots. Its best that Lin goes to a bad to ok team with promise. Milwaukee is also interesting. I’m very wary of a Harden situation. so too much stars is an issue. I don’t know if Lin cares about that. Looking at the way he thinks. He will look for a team like the hornets who was just out of the playoffs or just in. Good players. just missing a pg. Dallas and brooklyn is there. Still i wanna know why brooklyn lost so much. 11 games worse then the knick is bad. Lin may think so as well. Lin may take less money for a team like dallas or bulls if he starts. Even Milwaukee over brooklyn.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    People, including myself want to see Lin finally get a chance to start and get a full 30mpg…Brooklynn does have Brook Lopez who’s a top 5 center but I agree that they need a bit more…Brook and Lopez is not enough.

    If I were them, I’d trade Thad Young and try to replace him with s stretch-4…They already have Bogdanovic who’s a very good shooter and can play either the 2 or 3…

    I’d consider signing Marvin Williams and slide him at the 4 and try to duplicate what Charlotte did which was simple..shoot more 3 and play defense.

    Brooklynn already have a center that is already better than what Charlotte has + they could have Marvin at 4 and Lin running PnR with Lopez…I think they’d have a chance to make the playoff and possibly go deep.

    C:Lopez
    PF: Marvin
    SF:Hollis-Jefferson
    SG: Bogdanovic
    PG: Lin

    Not bad…Hollis-Jefferson is supposed to be a defensive wing…kind of like the Brooklynn MKG,..that’s at least what they sees him as, but he’s not really not a good shooter, but hope that he’s at least better than MKG there.

    Larkin is decent back-up PG and that’s about it as for their bench….Maybe they should consider signing Hawes too..

    At the very least, Lin could have a few of his teammates there and Brooklynn could try to replicate the way Charlotte played last year.

  • Cycloben

    Too bad they don’t BELIEVE!!!

  • Cycloben

    They better come up with a good offer. I do not want Jeremy to take a big discount just for the promise of a starting position. No to “starter discount” and “Asian discount”.

  • alain gervais

    He probably would have to take a little less then on other teams

  • alain gervais

    Im think a discount would be 8-10 million. On a bad team like brooklyn its 11-13

  • PPP

    I guess Lin won’t mind to take little less (depends on how much less though) it they commit to him to start. I just like Carlisle the way he coached and the way he treated his players.

  • Jamie

    Point forward is like greek freak
    SF that handles the ball and dish out assits

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Interesting…Why are you higher on the Sixers?….Nets is the better team and gives Lin the better chance to win right away.

    Sixers have too many big men and they’d clog the middle for Lin drive…and they are way too young right now to expect them to win anything….

    My fear is that even Lin puts up decent stats like 15ppg and 6 assist, people would say he’s simply putting okay stats on a bad team.

  • Jamie

    That’s horrible perimeter defence
    Bogdanovic is so unathletic Hollis_jeff is a scrub
    They will have a hard time scoring

  • Cycloben

    I have a feeling all the teams will try to lowball Jeremy. It’s like Khuang said, nobody believes in the Asian guy.

    Hopefully the nets will believe.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Hollis is suppose to be a good defender..His defensive statistic looks pretty good for a rookie and he has decent size at 6’7…But I agree that you shouldn’t count this guy to score too many points…Maybe Lin could make him better.

  • alain gervais

    We will have to wait and see. A lot of interest so far.1 month and a haif a way

  • alain gervais

    It would be a good idea to have a page of all the rumors. Was looking for the mavs rumor on Lin couldn’t find it.

  • sport

    They should’ve traded or benched Parker after his no show at last year’s playoffs but they are too loyal and stuck with their “old stars” These old stars are now dragging them down. With Lin they would’ve cruised through teams even as 1 year rental.

  • sws94

    Charlotte had the right idea and not a bad system. IMO, where Cliff went very wrong is over-playing Batum and Walker, being too high on Batum, and not integrating Lin enough or playing him enough minutes with proper involvement. But Charlotte was very deep, doesn’t seem Nets are as deep.

  • PPP

    Ideally, i would replace Williams with Ryan Anderson, a better 3p shooter and bigger. After that, sign Courtney Lee to start as 2 back up by Bog.

  • sport

    No because KD’s the best shooter on the team! Westbrook is a another volume shooter taking away shots from his teammates that’s why OKC will never make it far to playoffs again.

  • sws94

    That’s exactly what they’ll say. He’s a backup or a starter on a bad team. But, after awhile, what they say has to become so much noise.

  • PPP

    you won’t hear many rumors until the Draft.

  • vincent

    the spurs of 2 years ago were the most fun to watch. They moved the ball MUCH more, much less iso plays and patty mills and Danny green actually knocked down some shots consistently

  • sws94

    Lin can’t take Nets deep into the playoffs, if he takes them into the playoffs at all. Curry has Green and Klay. Lebron has Love and Kyrie. You need one or two great players even if you are one of the best in basketball along with you to take a team deep into the playoffs.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Ryan Anderson at 4 and Lee at 2 definitely sound better, with Bog coming off the bench..They’d probably want to start Hollis for wing defense.

    Lopez
    Anderson
    Jefferson
    Lee
    Lin

    bench: Larkin, Bognadovic

    That do sound better since Anderson could easily give you 15ppg and he can shoot 3s and stretch the floor…He’s an upgrade to Marvin William.

    I’m not sure whether Anderson would want to sign with the Nets..He will get offer to start at big money $10M+…I’m not sure why New Orleans didn’t trade him to at least get something back.

  • real-dsb

    Would you rather Lin take a higher offer from a team that wants Lin to come off the bench than a lower offer from a team that promises Lin to start?

  • sport

    You think any team that has a star guard already will allow Lin to lead as PG?! Lin needs to lead his own team to playoffs and prove himself as a star 1st! With respect other stars will be willing to team up with him!

  • sws94

    What does that have to do with my post? If Lin is leading PG on the Nets, you still need two great players with him. That’s what Steff and LeBron have.

  • real-dsb

    Nets are in eastern conf, it’s possible.

  • sport

    What you’re suggesting is for Lin to go to a team with at at least another great player but no team will allow the Asian guy to shine if they already have a “star”. That’s why Lin needs to bring his team to playoffs by himself 1st then with the respect and investment from FO he will be safe to recruit an unselfish star to join him!

  • sws94

    As are the Cavs. Eastern conference was the most competitive. Nets I think could at best squeak out 8th but then they play the Cavs and you need answers to the firepower they have in LeBron, Kyrie, Love and then shooters like JR Smith. They also have a good bench now at least with Frye and Delly.

  • sws94

    I said nothing like that in the post. I’m talking about if he were to go to the Nets, he’d need other strong players to get deep in the playoffs.

  • sport

    Yet Lin let a Kemba-less Hornets with only Batum, and MKG to win against a fully loaded Cavs! Far as I’m concern neither Batum or MKG are “stars” good players but no way close to stars.

  • sws94

    You need a tough defender. That’s where Marvin is better. And he can set decent screens for Lin as well. And rebound. And block some shots. At least have Marv as a high-minute 2nd team player then.

  • real-dsb

    Lol at first I thought TD was Toney Douglas!

  • sport

    Hornets aren’t that much better, they were a bottom team before Lin and Batum and even then Batum was absent against most of the toughest teams and certainly didn’t post great stats. Lin’s best talent is getting all 5 players to be scoring threats on the court, just let him lead his own team in the Eastern conference to see how far they can go first.

  • donsmacau

    Please disregard any posters claiming that Nets cannot make a playoff run.

    Any student of JLIN’s history should know, JLIN specializes in taking a group of no name/scrubs and make them play as a TEAM. JLIN can make any team better to the point that if they have motivation, perseverance and desire – they will WIN. JLIN would take Nets or Sixers to playoff (perhaps a low seed 7th-8th)

    All of these NO-NAMES had career stats with JLIN:
    Steve Novak
    Ed Davis
    Iman Shumpert
    Omer Asik
    Landry Fields
    Spencer Hawes
    Jeremy Lamb
    Tyson Chandler

    (its easier to make a list of players who DID NOT play better under JLIN)

  • TTNN

    wow, don’t know how you could make that claim. Nets has almost 40M in cap space, and you don’t even know what’s going to happen in the off season, and you already killed their playoff run…..

    Hey, you think Hornets will be a playoff team again next season?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    baby steps. besides, but Lin doesn’t really need star players. he just needs competent teammates and coaching staff. Lin is different from Curry and Lebron. those guys can completely take over games by themselves. Lin is more of a puppet master or a maestro if you will. or better yet, he’s like a quarterback of the team

  • sws94

    Hornets lost first round with a very deep team. I don’t know where you are going but LeBron and Curry are the MVP and runner up in the game of basketball and I wrote they needed other great players to get deep into the playoffs. This isn’t saying Lin isn’t capable of anything you’ve said, I agree. But the playoffs are difficult to advance in and they have help with 2 all-star players besides them. I’m thinking Lin would need the same thing as those great players.

  • sws94

    If the Nets could get 2 great players with him. Currently they do not. My point is, that’s what they’d need. And I gave 2 examples of the best basketball players in the game having that.

  • John Focker

    Yes the PG’s function/role is changing, but why has it been changing, and does it HAVE TO change? IMHO it has to do with many of today’s PG’s not having the court vision and ability to direct a structured offense, so they can only resort to ISO plays.

    Now, Nash scored bundles (especially in his prime), as does Curry, and they LEAD their team towards wins instead of CARRYING them. I have little issue with WD as he DOES look to empower teammates and has crazy assist numbers IN ADDITION to his own crazy scoring.

    My beef is with ISO-heavy streetball-style PGs that can neither carry nor lead, such as Irving and Kemba Walker. All they do is artificially pump up their stats at the detriment of the teams.

  • Alan

    What did Charlotte say about their own team before Lin came? They said something along the line that other than kemba + al, the rest of the team cannot do any good or make any shots. Their starters were bad but bench was even worst before Lin came.

    In NYK, Lin helped turn novak into the best shooter of that season…. we are talking about novak… someone who could never ever create his own shot consistently. How about the random pairing of Ed davis? When Lin have the rare chance to pair up with Ed, they were very hard to stop. Lin also elevated hornets bench. For example, when al or cody plays with starters, they both tends to do worst than coming off the bench with Lin playing.

    Lin just needs his team mate to work with him and he will make a gem out of them. I agree that Lin needs hard working player and decent players to go far. Sometimes talent is not the problem, rather the chemistry + unselfishness is the key to unlock player’s ceiling. Lin helps elevate, explore and bring out the best in them, as long as they are not selfish iso players aka play with heart, take what the defense gives and not force any issues.

  • Briiick

    Except a few real winners such as Curry, LBJ and Lin, the difference between NBA players is much smaller than what the difference of their contract sizes suggests.

  • sws94

    It’s hard to say what brought about the type of PGs we see today. Just feel like the systems some teams are going to are now changing to reflect that style of PG and now PF play.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    my favorite fit with Lin are Ed Davis, Tyson Chandler, and Iman Shumpert

  • Mr Chuckles

    One step at a time. Lin as starting PG, takes Nets TO the playoffs. Maybe even win a round and establishes himself as The Man. Then add some good players around him the following year and do even more damage.

  • TTNN

    I totally could not get your points from your original post.

    I can easily give you an example: Trailblazer, when they let 4 starters go, and get in players like Ed Davis, did yo ever think they will make playoff? Now look where they are?

    There are 16 teams goes to playoff, and 8 of them will go to second round, you pick the top two teams as example and say Lin will never get to that stage, that’s just MISLEADING.

  • sws94

    Sounds possible. But yes, get to the playoffs for the first round and win some games the first go-round. That’s pretty much what Charlotte did this year.

  • Mr Chuckles

    Yup. Important though to establish himself as the PG. Otherwise you add some chucker like Harden the same time Lin arrives and … well … we’ve seen that before.

  • sws94

    Deep into the playoffs. That means round 3 IMO. Didn’t say they can’t make the playoffs at all. I’m not sure what the Nets are at this point. And it is one of my “hometown” teams.

    Blazers have done a good job. I did think they would make the playoffs and go a round or two.

  • zxcvb

    Tyson has played with CP3 and J-Kidd, but the highest FG% he ever had was in 2012 with Jeremy Lin .

  • Kirk

    We can’t say that it’s impossible for a Jlin-led Nets team not to do well in the playoffs. None of us knows.

    But what being a fan of JLin has taught me is you never bet against him. And I don’t buy this notion that teams need stars. Look at the Hawks or even the Spurs (before Kawhi was a star). That’s how Daryl Morey thinks, and stars are great, but teamball to me is most important. I watched the Spurs beat GSW. i thought it would be impossible for the Hornets to win the next game. Everyone did.

    The Lakers bench was putting up some great numbers a couple seasons back, no stars there.

    Anyway, it’s all conjecture, but I definitely wouldn’t say impossible.

  • TTNN

    uh, still don’t get your point. So you think Lin from Hornets bench can carry the team to go deep into playoff? I thought you are okay for Lin to stay in Hornets. If you are satisfied with Hornets with what they are, why you have to ask Nets to go deep into playoff?

    I don’t see your point and I don’t see your logic. Who said Nets will go deep, and what’s wrong if Nets can not go deep? Do you demand Lin have to carry the team by himself to go deep, otherwise he should not go to that team?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    lakers bench with Lin/Ed Davis/Ellington/SwaggyP was more like a super bench in my eyes. they could easily be a playoffs team as a starting unit. forgot to mention, that lineup without Lin is a scrub lineup though

  • Kirk

    Yeah, they were putting up some insane numbers, if I recall. Not to glorify Jlin’s time on that team, lol, but they were a great unit.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    glorify away!

  • sws94

    I don’t demand anything. Just going along with the Nets notions like others here and how far they could possibly go in the playoffs. I had discussions with others about wanting to see Lin go deep into the playoffs and why I would favor seeing Lin go to another team that would possibly give him the best opportunity to do so.

    The main thing is, I support Lin’s choice whatever it is and wish him happiness and great success with that choice. Even if it is staying with the Hornets however unlikely that looks now.

  • John Focker

    A little history lesson here.

    2003/04 Phoenix Suns 29-53 (13th in WC)
    2004/05 Phoenix Suns 62-20 (1st in WC)

    The right players under the right systems with appropriate chemistry can do wonders.

    Not saying that Nets will be great next year, but making bold predictions before FA ends is simply unwise.

  • Alan

    The differences between lin and the likes of iso of harden, kemba, melo, and such is that lin helps elevate his teammates. What are stars and superstars? a player that is given unlimited opportunities to prove they are the best.

    Lin gives this chance to his team mate, Lin study and understand what’s best for each teammate and help play to their strength. If 3 point shooting is your strength, Lin will ensure you get enough of 3 point touches throughout the game. If your strength is P&R, then Lin will drive to lane and setup for an easy shot. Lin provide his teammate unlimited amount of opportunities to work on their strength.

    Note the Lin effect, everyone plays better around him because they know Lin understands what their strength are. Which is why iso like kemba, will never understand why. Kemba scores 40 points and ask his team mate, why are you guys sucking so bad? (the truth is, because you never play to our aka his teammate’s strength) Whereas when lin scores 40, he gets the WIN most of the time with most of his team mates stepping up BIG.

    ISO ball force issues, does not take what defense gives you, this will back fire very often as you have to take tougher shots that does not necessary count or worth more points. 2 point shot wont count for more when you have to shoot them over a wall of players vs when you have an easy layup. 3 point shot wont worth more just because you throw it from full court or when you have someone on top of you guarding.

  • TTNN

    I just want to point out that you constantly apply double standard. When you are talking about situations you are less favor of (Nets in this case), you would raise your standard a notch, and when you are talking about situations you are favor of (Hornets you talked before), you would drop your standard a notch. And when people confront you, you would blur what you were talking about, and add “my point is” which was never mentioned in your original post until you were questioned.

    There is a reason you get a lot of people against you, since you were never consistent.

    Just my 2 cents,

  • Acbc

    As the rules of this site gives us guidelines to follow and respect opinions. I will offer mine as well.

    In life, you can either walk bravely into the future of unmarked trails only following the dreams written in the start kite nights, or you can choose to walk backwards into a safe tomorrow following the lead of others guiding you. If you choose to be great, you cannot be a follower.

    Equally, there are those who would want to tell you at every turn their opinions that you’re not good enough to lead, that you are talented enough to make it on you’re own, that you should seek the safety of others. Then there are those who choose to build you up and add to your self esteem and be a supporter of whatever you want to reach for.

    When someone dares to dream, don’t snuff out that little fire of self belief with your cold shower of doubt. That’s my opinion.

  • Kirk

    Ha! thanks.

  • sws94

    It’s a simple post that compares what Lin would need to take a team deep into the playoffs and I gave two examples of the best in basketball having the all-star team mates to help them get there. I feel it remains a simple post and I’m puzzled by your reaction to be honest.

  • Kirk

    I just found an old LA Times Article with the headline “Jeremy Lin, Nick Young hope to return to Lakers next season”.(Sorry for not posting it; I’m really bad with disqus, but it’s easy to find. Now, it is possible, that JLin wants to come back to Charlotte, but sports figures are always diplomatic, their media training teaches them this. Just saying these desires to return didn’t mean anything last time, and don’t give me at least any more certainty this time.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20150415-story.html

    just copy and paste the link. not like twitter where you copy the time

  • Kirk

    Thanks. Really like this forum, and thanks for the welcome the other day. Not sure if I have time to become a regular; I just had a lot of thoughts I wanted to share the other day, and I do come here often to read up on the latest on JLin. Well, at least I am a regular tonight.

  • zxcvb

    I think we’re all finally beyond that. Some panicky fans wouldn’t let it go, but Jeremy’s Facebook post removed any remaining doubts. He’s going to choose the best chance to shine. End of story.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    that was an excellent first post. hope you post regularly or when ever possible. could always use another voice of reason!

  • PPP

    As a fan of Lin, I would like to remind myself that what are the Lin’s goals as a NBA player which he had said repeatedly himself:

    1. to be an consistent role player, checked.
    2. to start in the NBA, will be achieved this off season, at least for me.
    3. to be an all star, tbd
    4. to win a championship (being a core player of the team), tbd.

    What we want him to do are moot but fun to argue.

    Agree to disagree, haha.

  • martan267

    Thank you for always defending JLin’s capabilities. It just seems that no matter the evidence that JLin demonstrates about his ability to WIN with a team of non-stars, there continues to be the those that keep saying that JLin needs other “stars” to be able to win. Here are the facts:
    1. Hornets were not able to win BIG games without him (Spurs, Cavs, Raptors). So, the “stars” need JLin, not the other way around.
    2. Broke records that have been around for YEARS (beat Cavs/ Lebron, won Playoff game, etc)
    3. Non-stars have greatly improved stats (including Kemba)

    We could go on with his impact to other teams, but that would take too long.

    Please keep on posting as you have been to continue the fight against the derogatory views about what JLin can actually do.

    Also, I support why JLin should start since he’s EXPLICITLY have said that he wants to start. I don’t know why certain posters here keep saying we don’t know what he wants… He’s said it!!

    I appreciate all that you do!!

  • TTNN

    “Lin can’t take Nets deep into the playoffs, if he takes them into the playoffs at all.”

    I have problem with your this kind of simple post. Since you could say that to CP3, you could say that AI Horford, you could say that James Harden, and you could say that to pretty much everyone in the league. So, what’s your point of Lin can’t take Nets deep into playoffs?

    It is pretty simple here too.

  • Kirk

    Well, I appreciate that, thank you.

  • Ben Johnson

    Let us hope that Bron wins the championship this year…if he does that, he probably bolts to Los Angeles for all the marketing opportunities, haha

  • Maknusia

    Hi Martan…understand your pain point..when we see views that differs from majority fan’s view….but we need to respect Every Lin Fan’s view as well.

    We are all part of the same family but with different views, but the end goal is to see Lin being happy where ever he goes and succeeds as he dreamt.

    Let us ALL respect all views while disagreeing politely

  • sport

    Hornets lost first round while marginalizing Lin and stat padding Kemba! Lin was not starting PG and for every game he came in from the bench with his touches and minutes limited 27-32 for only 2 games the rest he was not allowed to shine. The last game he only had 19 minutes while Kemba went for 36!

  • sws94

    And you’ve said so. OK. Moving on then.

  • real-dsb

    He’s already started 183 games (equivalent of 2.2 seasons), so he’s already accomplished #2.

    #3 is definitely do-able. If he had his starter stats from this year, he would have been an all-star.

  • sws94

    4 is the tough one. You just have to be on the right team at the right time to win a championship.

    I hope so. I know if he gets the chance, he’ll be a huge part of helping his team get that championship.

  • takeme2cruz

    That one or even two players are now in the Nets roster. They just wait for Lin to complete the whole package.

  • JoeTeam

    ok !

  • PPP

    here you go. playoffs.

  • JoeTeam

    to each’s own. I’ve never been a fan of Harden except when he was on OKC because that was his job – to come in and score points and make sure 2nd unit beats opponent’s 2nd unit. Since he tried to be number 1, he hurt the team game in Rox so that’s why I’m not a fan.

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t think so.

  • JoeTeam

    I hope Morey is out of the league soon because he doesn’t have enough humility to lead strong people.

  • sport

    Yes that was what everyone was looking forward to but never happened because of BS! In fact I was looking forward to Lin x Young back court! Young might like taking iso shots but he only took at most 15-17 shot attempts which is the average FGA starters take! Compared to Harden, Kemba, and Lamb, Young didn’t ball hog or tried to be “PG”. Also compared to Kemba who’s obviously fake, Young was never “jealous” of Lin. His recent tweets about Lin also show he’s a genuine guy. When was the last time you saw Kemba post a praise about Lin? In fact if Young can get out of Lakers I seriously hope he will team up with Lin if he’s going to Nets (Young disliked MDA).

  • Maknusia

    Welcome Kirk…no worries…just post when you are free….and to share your thoughts and news

  • JoeTeam

    yep, you guys forced me to listen to it and he sounded illogical.

  • Kirk

    Nick Young: KHuang’s favorite shooting guard that JLin has ever played with.

  • Maknusia

    Good one…never say never! 🙂

  • martan267

    Thanks Acbc… Always bring thoughtful comments and very insightful. Your description is how I have seen JLin live his life. He has never settled for the safe route.

    An example, he could have chosen Stanford ( a perennial top collegiate basketball team) as a walk on and maybe he would have played a little bit as a backup of a backup. Instead, he chose Harvard, a non- contender to play for since he was told he’d get to play more and be a starter/significant member of the team. In the years that he played, Harvard improved greatly in Wins and JLin was considered a top player in his division.

    JLin will always choose “the road less traveled” and follow his dream of his own team vs. the safety of an established team where he is just a minor cog in the wheel…

    Taken from his FB letter, you witness this desire to push his limits and “walk bravely into the future of unmarked trails”.
    “This past year was a step in the right direction, but I know there’s another level I can get to. So as I approach the off-season, I will keep working on my game. Next year my jumper will be way better. I will come back a much better player….For free agency, I will seek out every opportunity that gives me the greatest chance to be the best player I can be. I believe I’m just getting started. I have more to give and more to accomplish. “

  • JoeTeam

    I get that you are looking at it differently. A lot of people just don’t think JLin as a bench player gives him the rights to lead, that he deserves.

    I happen to agree, that JLin needs to start to get to his next level. You cannot have the authority as COO or CFO if you are supporting a weak CEO and the board and company wants to hide that fact. The COO or CFO end up with all the work, no authority to keep it easy, and the ball never comes to you easy. It’s a way to die young …

  • sport

    Me too! Loved his energy on the court and his fun loving personality! Although he likes joking I remember right after coming back from injury Young was already shooting very well without missing a beat! It showed he’s serious about training and the game without being a egotistic douche like most players!

  • PPP

    one step at a time.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I do feel making the playoff with Charlotte made it more enjoyable this year and I also believe Lin enjoyed his teammates much more than his Laker teammates, specially Kobe Bryant… although this is a bit easier when you’re winning. When you’re losing, everybody is a bit moodier.

    Of course, my preference is for Lin to leave Charlotte because the return of MKG means less minutes for Lin as shooting-guard, but I wouldn’t shocked if he re-sign with Charlotte. My hope is Lin only consider re-signing if he he’s not offered a starting-job.

    If he’s offered a starting spot, he has to go…No excuse to remain in Charlotte to only play between 15-18 minute per game..even if it’s the sixers….My preference is the Nets or Dallas if Deron William and Fat Felton leaves for free agency…Lin would have to be promised the chance to start too.

  • Maknusia

    yup…baby step counts 😉

  • Kirk

    He and JLin have something in common: Both were ciriticized for their defense by Byron Scott. It is amazing to me how the words of one coach carry so much weight, and Young’s reputation really took a hit. One think I thank Clifford for is praising JLin’s defense.

    imo, if Bryron Scott criticizes a player’s defense, he is probably a good defender!

  • JoeTeam

    I disagree. Lebron is not better than Curry.

  • Kirk

    Yeah, this was a good year, relative to the previous ones. But we’re hoping there is more and better to come!

  • Kirk

    Yeah! Bonell said that it was impossible for the Hornets to push the series deep after the first two losses. Honestly, i thought so too. And look what happened.

  • JoeTeam

    now that’s why I come here — Disneyland. So many rides, and your posts are the Pirates of the Caribbean!

  • JoeTeam

    Martan …

    The Road Less Traveled is by M Scott Peck and is about love in a Christian context. He followed it up with a book called People of the Lie, about human evil (wantonly taking the spirit of others).

    The Road Not Taken is where that title comes from, by Robert Frost. Check it out it is very good.

  • sws94

    I’m redefining the bench thing. As the way that it is thought of here, I want nothing to do with Lin playing like that. As the way that it can be for some players, Lin would distinguish himself very well. The advantage to starting (literally, without anything attached) is setting the tone right away. The advantage to entering the game later is making your presence known and changing a sagging direction of a team, charging it up. I’ve seen Lin do both extraordinarily well and am intrigued with both possibilities, not just one.

    Starting Lin and having him stand in the corner while the “star” players touch the ball most has happened in his career. That’s the “caveat” I have putting too much into starting to have Lin to have the best opportunity to play his game. Involvement and minutes is what he needs.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Brook Lopez is somewhat of a star…I think Lin could help him make the all-star next year, if he signs with them and is allow to run a lot of PnR.

    But beside Lopez, they have nobody so I’m not sure Brook-Lin is enough…They need other pieces to help Brook-Lin….Someone suggested signing Ryan Anderson who would be perfect as a stretch-4.

    I don’t like Thad Young at 4 because he’s more of a conventional power-forward that do not stretch the floor + he’s a tweener PF at 6’8.

    Ryan Anderson, Marvin Williams and Courtney Lee would be good signings for the Nets.

  • martan267

    Thanks for the tip! I had gotten that line from Frost’s poem but didn’t know about Scott Peck’s book with the phrase as the title.

    Appreciate it!

  • sws94

    Yes, of course, lol.

  • Kirk

    Thanks!

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    No doubt in my mind Lin can take any team to playoff if they allow him to do what he can do on court. Just look at how lousy Hornets became this season…. Haha! As for Championship, it will not be next season unless he’s back to GSW. But he’s only 27, Kidd got his ring after 35, right… still pretty of time. No worry.

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, how did you find that? lol.

  • CJSHYY
  • sport

    Should’ve said something when Lin was there instead of trying to be “buddies” with Harden.

  • JoeTeam

    That book helped a lot of people over the decades. It was a great nod to Robert Frost. I try to share the value of each line of thinking every chance I get because it’s so hard to find good things to read theses days. This forum is my McDonalds ha ha.

  • CJSHYY

    During that time he’s under contract ….. not anymore now…..

  • sport

    Too bad Lin never said anything after leaving Houston even after what he went through.

  • CJSHYY

    I think D12 & Lin are good friend so it’s good idea if they become teammates again… just not sure it will be in Nets or not. I know how high almost all the Lin’s fans are on Nets now (read so many tweets talked about this….) but I still want to see what Kenny Atkinson says about this team…. since most of the hype about Lin to Nets all from NY media….

  • sport

    I’m for Nets only because Kenny Atkinson supported Lin before Lin-sanity and trained with him even before MDA. Whether not Nets FO and GM have the mind-set is another thing. We never thought Lin would go to Hornets out of no where so who knows.

  • CJSHYY

    I know you are one of the passionate Nets supporters, haha!

  • sport

    Pretty sure Nick Young wants out of Lakers, wonder if they will waive him so he can choose the team he wants. He’s a nice teammate and feel his talents and potential are wasted with Lakers. Maybe that tweet was his way of saying he won’t mind teaming up with Lin next season? I hope they still keep in contact.

  • CJSHYY

    Nick Young? Really?

  • Singapore BB Fan

    D-Howard + JLin to Dallas Mav ….anyone?

  • sport

    He’s a good SG but definitely needs a good PG and coach to really bring out his potential. For the 1-2 games he got to play with Lin they both scored in 20+ points. And he certainly doesn’t try to be PG nor take 30 shots a game, at most only 15-17 which is actually the average starters take! He was willing move and allow Lin get him open shots when they played together while also creating his own shots. Not to mention his defense is far better than Lamb, Harden, and Kemba without the ego.

  • CJSHYY

    If no CP.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Young is also very funny guy. Image Lin+D12+Young…. that will be fun. Haha!

  • sport

    LOL Exactly what I’ve been trying to say in my last posts Lin-D12-Young (PG, C, SG)

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Yea, for sure CP will be gone…

  • sport

    Dallas still has Dirk and DWill who are too old. Mavs aren’t going anywhere.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope he back to Rox w Harden & his beloved Morey ….

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I read they will give DW extend contract?? Cuban always made wrong choice. smh!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    What tweet did Nick Young send?

  • Lefon Jang

    The Road Less Traveled was more along the line of Buddhism. At that time Scott Peck was a Buddhist but he later became a Christian. That book has a lot of influence from Buddhism in particular on pain and suffering, even though it’s a psychology book.

  • Vintage

    To be fair, Lin stated these goals when he was a lot younger. I’m sure he’s already realized by now that life isn’t a linear track, and that’s why he can handle the ups and downs so well and leave these types of goals up to God.

    That being said, as long as he can keep up his worth ethic, I believe him and Steph will be in a league of their own within a couple of years. Had he been given the keys to run the offense of his teams consistently throughout his NBA career he would probably be there already. Nevertheless, lack of team support was never going to stop him in the long term.

    I hope he goes to Brooklyn, because that’s where I’m going in a couple months…

  • John Focker

    May I remind you that’s EXACTLY what the doofus(es) at ESPN said about the Hornets before season started.

    Jeremy would’ve taken the Hornets all the way to ECF if not for team (league) politics NOT ALLOWING him to play sufficient role when it mattered most. In fact he had to be LITERALLY taken out of the game for the Hornets to lose.

    I am really wearing thin of hearing “Lin fans” harp about “Lin can’t do this” and “Lin can’t do that”. I hear enough of that from the Lin haters, and if I really crave it all I have to do is to go to Clutchfans instead of here. What is being a Lin fan all about if not to have faith in his ability to elevate ANYONE and EVERYONE on his team (as long as allowed by coach/GM/team)?

    I’m sure people said Nash couldn’t take a 29-53 Suns deep into the playoffs, right before he took them to the WCF in 2004.

  • Rick Johnson

    #1: I think he said “rotation player” not “role player”

  • John Focker

    Welcome! Fully enjoyed your first post, while you may be new here you’ve already shown enough to be a great new addition to the community.

    Oh, and I’m so glad your handle is Kirk (and not Shatner). 🙂

  • John Focker

    What would be the meaning of success if not to aim high? If Jeremy was one to settle for the easier path, compromise, and mediocrity, he would’ve never entered the NBA to begin with. How some have managed to lose sight of this fundamental is befuddling.

  • John Focker

    It’s disrespectful to forget that Lin makes it a career to prove doubters wrong. Yet the doubters never learn.

  • PPP

    You are correct, my bad.

  • PPP

    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst,.

  • Morlock O

    hope for Lin to go to Nets with Dwight or Tyson chandler

  • PPP

    He will have a big leap after he gets to start as a pg. Haha.

    Lets go.

  • spiderman

    Howard is fools gold. He’s talented, but does not know how to effectively use it or lead a team.

  • Acbc

    Lol, now I’m a Big Mac? Haha. Thanks for that exchange, I’ll look those books up. Robert frost is one of my favorite poets.

  • Acbc

    Jlin is an inspiration to all of us and ” he bravely goes where no Asian has ever gone before”, lol

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • steven ko

    The fact that Tim Duncan is facing elimination, the happiest person has to be…Kobe

  • Michael

    He contradicts himself a lot, and doesn’t seem to know exactly who he is and what he has to do, it’s unfortunate.

  • Michael

    Or maybe he said he likes “role playing…”

  • Michael

    Love Timmy.

  • donsmacau

    Minority views espoused by the same consistent posters are well tolerated here, and that is their right as owners of the site.

    Contrast to a Hornet’s team fansite, where those similar posts for example, which might run contrary to the words of the team or stated desires of the players would receive short patience by their moderators.

    JLIN has a unique story rooted in overcoming the doubters and the small minority of posters who constantly DOUBT JLIN’s capabilities remind all of us what JLIN had/has to deal with in his life. That reminder allows us to each in a small way rededicate ourselves to assist in the fight that JLIN has had to fight since middle school enduring taunts on the floor from his doubters.

    And we gladly step up for JLIN in the face of doubt.

  • wu kong

    oh my Newbie to GOT?!?! hope he has managed to not see any spoilers. And that first season… Whoa! not exactly family friendly viewing!!!… Hope his mom is not in the room for most of the season… can you say Awkward!

  • wandertheglobe

    I agree.

  • CJSHYY

    Not popular now or wait for CP to come back???

    https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/730232143951990784

  • sws94

    This isn’t a slight to Jeremy Lin at all.

    To now make this comment on a level of Clutchfans or say it is doubting is over the top. It’s not Lin that I’m not crazy about, it’s the Nets. And I’m dealing with what they are as of now.

    What I said is realistic and I’m trying to be realistic vs. saying that Lin could do more than LeBron or Curry did. In fact, can’t you even see I used two of the greatest in basketball not only of this era but perhaps in basketball history to make my point?

    If people are going to predict Lin becomes a Net or push that much for it, and none of us knew Lin would go to the Hornets, then maybe a more grounded view of what Lin can do and to dare say that all players, including Lin, may have some limitations due to factors due to him being just one of a team, isn’t that outrageous.

    You need a combination of factors to get deep into the playoffs, this isn’t all about one player no matter how great he may be. As you know it is a long, hard grind and coaches and teams have to come together in the right way to make this happen. You also have to look at the overall competition for that time. I’ve watched basketball over 4 decades and the best players play the game in a variety of eras and such. There is some context to my comments.

  • HVJoy

    Well said. I agree fully that Double Standard was applied consistently by the poster.

    “There is a reason you get a lot of people against you, since you were never consistent.” 👍

  • HVJoy

    Thank you for this brief, yet to-the-point post.

  • Jamie

    29-7.5-6 if thats not playing well, nobody in the league played well this year

  • Jamie

    That’s not true. The rox hasnt missed the playoffs since Harden took over and he did take them to conf finals last year. Harden was too selfish when Lin was there. He’s getting better but needs a coach to tame him talent is there

  • takeme2cruz

    He gonna get hooked.

  • donsmacau

    In the midst of a thorough ode to reasons why JLIN should remain on Hornets by AttheHive, the writer interestingly inserts JUST two vine videos both “demonstrating bad plays” by JLIN (PJ fault on handoff) … writer spent hundreds of words trying to convince himself and his readers that JLIN should resign, yet makes a point that JLIN has deficiencies – laughable.

    “If the money is right, Lin almost certainly will be back in Charlotte for 2016-17 and beyond.” – this final quote demonstrates how badly the writer and the Hornets misjudge and misunderstand JLIN’s priorities

    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/5/11/11639500/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets-2015-2016-season-review

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t Click for them… No news & this is blog for Hornets so what else can they say… same old staff…. smh! Like some Lin’s fans said don’t even bother to leave comments now….

  • sws94

    The article is pro-Lin back to the Hornets in the same capacity as last season. It’s a mostly positive piece on him as a Hornet, the two examples given of Lin’s mistake said they can happen to any player and weren’t egregious.

    I thought on SB Nation anyone could write articles.

  • CJSHYY
  • Chopz

    Sulu from Star Trek already has gone where no asian has gone before : )

    Thats right jlin, u chase ur dreams. If you would’ve listened to everybody tell u no, u would have stopped playing at elementary school.

  • Briiick

    LOL, Hornets’ mouthpieces will run out of things to write after Lin leaves.

  • CJSHYY
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  • Kirk

    Thanks, I appreciate it!

  • HVJoy

    Knicks has the MSG, Nets has the YES TV network to broadcast games.

    It’s convenient to be NBA fans in NY. The million-dollar question: is Lin coming back to NY?

  • CJSHYY

    Hope can get some infor from this press conference.

  • sws94

    YES is blocked out to Comcast users still in the NYC and NY/NJ areas. No Yankees or Nets games can be watched.

  • HVJoy

    Yes. Btw, I enjoy all news, information and photos of Lin and NBA you brought here continuously.

    Thank you.

  • CJSHYY

    We all his fans. 🙂

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    My issue with this piece is that they’ve ignore the fact that Lin’s role as a Hornets is likely to be diminished with MKG returning from injury.

    This piece seems to hint that Lin would be smart to re-sign with Charlotte and ignore any other offers …Of course, they are Hornets fan so they’d love Lin to not even entertain other more lucrative offers with bigger role, but I wished they would have brough the fact that he may not receive the same amount of minutes since MKG is one of the key building block of the franchise.

    My hope is that Jeremy and his agent are able to see the negative side of returning as a Hornets.

  • CJSHYY
  • takeme2cruz

    Thank you BrookLin activist.

  • CJSHYY

    Really want to know what he’s going to say…. haha!

  • lleepar

    The Hornets are not going to have a budget for any quality backup point guard, much less one like JLin who can step in for the starter and lead the team to a victory over a team like the Cavs. Instead, they’re going to cripple their budget for years to come with a max player who’ll stunt the team’s financial flexibility like Melo, Harden, Kobe who will give them points, but not wins. Most of the Hornets fans seem to think JLin is best suited to “give another discount” — and merely wait for Kemba’s knee to give out again (a likelihood far greater when he won’t have someone like JLin to count on for help). Oh, well. Yet another team who’ll only realize what they’ve lost too late. Back to mediocracy for them next year.

  • Maknusia

    I think its worth a read 🙂

  • alain gervais
  • cdblue10

    I don’t think Rambis would want Lin to be his PG….but if Knicks will acquire Blatt as their HC then Knicks is a possibility for Lin where he can play his game.

  • alain gervais

    I know Lin doesn’t want to play in the triangle. Still would rather carmelo elsewhere. Knicks deserve better (not dolan)

  • Briiick

    Melo is going to keep Knicks at the bottom as long as Dolan likes to pay him.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope so but I believe more likely it’s PJ will be fired.

  • grover chang

    Just human nature to write something like this. Defensive mechanisms. Pretty sure deep down he knows Lin will leave and it will be a big loss.

  • JoeTeam

    I guess we disagree completely. I was clear that JLin saved both playoff runs when he was on Rox. This year, they made it on the last day. That was well written about.

  • JoeTeam

    that’s box score. You’re welcome to it. Nobody on Rox was happy this year, and that’s ball-dominance for you that lasted years.

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    People of the Lie has some very nice ideas it it, to separate human evil as a choice vs evil outside of us. Humans want to blame things on evil outside of our control, but that 2nd book, far less read, is where we are accountable for our actions and to each other. The first one is quite an eye opener, to explore the upside of humanity. The 2nd one is even more an eye opener, to help sort through how to cope with all the bad we observe and have to work through daily.

  • takeme2cruz

    Smart move by the NBA.

  • JoeTeam

    Nice post, I had forgotten a lot and I need to re-read it through the eyes of a guy who forgot things and also learned more. Thank you bro …

  • JoeTeam

    good, now he can pundit and tell stories and his income is safe!

  • JoeTeam

    ok, now I have to start watching GOT.

  • JoeTeam

    D12 is always set up for awkward convos by the press.

  • real-dsb

    i see what you’re doing lol

  • real-dsb

    what is ESPN’s “new NBA initiative with China”?

  • TTNN

    well, that’s Hornets fan wishful thinking. Hard to blame them want to have Lin on their team though.

  • real-dsb

    that is quite some arrogant humblebrag there 😉

  • real-dsb

    Yeah, that was weird that the only vine videos were for 2 bad plays when actually 95% of the article was all positive about Lin.

    “this final quote demonstrates how badly the writer and the Hornets misjudge and misunderstand JLIN’s priorities”

    Why crush the hopes and dreams of Hornets fans? 😉

  • sws94

    Stodemire/Nash all stars, Joe Johnson and Marion were on that 04-05 Suns team. Also Q Richardson. Take Lin out of this and my point is that a bunch of great players are needed, at least 2, in most cases to get deep into the playoffs. Jordan had Pippin, Garnett did not get out of the first round I believe until he joined Allen/Pierce and also had Rondo at point. Most of the time it is you need a tandem of more than one excellent player and often all-star players together.

    There are plenty bold predictions made here. Some of them are repeated and rather strong. If predictions are made, they are hypotheticals, and hypotheticals are debatable.

  • CJSHYY

    New dept? I don’t know… you can ask him on tweet. He’s nice.

  • real-dsb

    LOL, without your explanation, I thought Kingsroad was some Korean drama when takeme2 wrote, “He gonna get hooked”

  • sws94

    It’s a season review and a kind of plea to bring Lin back there. All of the players are getting them from various writers.

  • real-dsb

    Not a fan of Dwight + Lin.

  • real-dsb

    “I thought on SB Nation anyone could write articles.”

    They have a few official writers, and then they also have Fanposts, which can be written by anyone.

  • sws94

    OK, thanks.

  • takeme2cruz

    Let Gogo answer to atthehive,

    https://youtu.be/JWxhqkQmi0s?t=14

  • wu kong

    just thought I would share. Pat Beverley former teammate of JLin having a rather rude convo on Twitter with an ESPN analyst… Man I really do not like this guy. His playing style and his public persona just radiates ‘Ignorant Thug’ https://twitter.com/patbev21/status/730447308974854145

  • wu kong

    it is must see tv. Also if you read at all… these books are some of the best.

  • Uh-Oh

    I have Doctor and patient in mind

  • Cycloben

    Seems like a Jeremy click bait. Pretend to write positively about him but backstab him a little. I wouldn’t give them one single click.

    As for the idea that Jeremy must discount “for the team, man!!!” No, just no. Don’t discount for a team that would rather throw away game 7 instead of letting you shine.

  • Cycloben

    Not gonna happen. Melo knows the knicks are the only team dumb enough to think he is gold, and not fool’s gold.

  • Cycloben

    Next stop, offer Jeremy at least $13 million.

  • John Focker

    Such a classless act, he’s no gentleman.

  • Cycloben

    Lol, he must have a lot of spare time now the rockets are no longer in contention. By the way, why is he still in the nba?

  • I am The Jason

    To be fair, Jemele Hill can be annoying

  • Cycloben

    Lol, he must have a lot of spare time now the rockets are no longer in contention. By the way, why is he still in the nba? The Rockets must truly believe their propaganda that “Jeremy was outplayed”.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I do feel that Phil deserve to be fire for trying to shove this triangle offense down people’s throat…the problem with this offense is that it limits the knicks from hiring coaches who aren’t used to it.

    Not only that, but it also limits the type of players you can sign to play for the Knicks…

    I think they should get rid of Phil and trade Melo anthony.

  • John Focker

    Stoudamire, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion and Barbossa were all part of the 29-53 team, same coach too.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_Phoenix_Suns_season

    It was Nash the genius PG who chained them all together, optimized their potential and made them shine like their hidden inner stars. Like I said previously, long and dexterous fingers are NOTHING with a good, solid palm to hold them together.

    Btw, don’t think Scottie appreciates you misspelling his last name. 🙂

  • sws94

    But my central point is there, John. It’s more than just one of them to turn things around. The ingredients were all there. It is very rare, just one great player or one great leader on a team leads a team to a dramatically different record that gets deep into the playoffs.

  • TTNN

    Patrick just try to attack attention.

  • Acbc

    I’ll have to think about this concept. What’s your opinion?

  • John Focker

    I hear what you’re saying. But remember that most NBA players are extremely talented and may very likely have unrealized potential UNTIL they find the right coach/system that takes advantage of those talents. The Nash example is an extreme one in which ALL the stars (pun) are correctly lined up. But it is the precise same magic that makes Lin special: the ability to identify and optimize each and every teammate’s strong suit. Omer Asik would not have been anywhere near as successful if it wasn’t for Lin. Yes, Lin could not change those stone hands, but he did maximize Asik’s potential. Case in point, Landry Fields and Steve Novak looked like quite the stars during Linsanity, but what happened to them now?

    It’s not that I’m advocating for Lin going to the Nets, I’m not. I prefer the Sixers for reasons that are too lengthy and would detract from our current discussion. And truth be told I am skeptic about Brook Lopez and Thaddeus Young’s playing style being compatible with Lin’s preferred offense. The point that I’m trying to make is NOT to convince anyone that the Nets is an optimal destination, but to say that it would not be prudent to discount any possibility when it comes to Lin. Other than Tyson Chandler and the aged and injured Stoudamire, the Linsanity core crew was anything BUT stellar. Jeffries was an underrated blue-collar D guy, Landry Fields had problems with his jumpers, Shumper was hurt, Bibby couldn’t really play anymore, does anyone even remember who Billy (now Henry) Walker?

    If a green Lin was able to run THAT squad into the playoffs, who knows what a seasoned and improved Lin could do with the Nets? Additionally, the FA hasn’t even started yet, so who knows which players the Nets will bring to Brooklyn, maybe the next undiscovered Ed Davis? Bottom line is, never prematurely discount a team that Lin is part of (he even led the sorry Lakers to beat fully-staffed GSW when given the rare full control), especially one that does not yet have the roster finalized.

  • Acbc

    Yes that’s right! I want to believe…

  • Mr Chuckles

    Actually, he was just responding to a question, I believe, about how he has changed the game. I watched the entire presentation ceremony. No arrogance to be found in Curry.

  • PPP

    what about time warner?

  • real-dsb

    Draft combine underway. Currently the top ranked PGs are

    Kris Dunn
    Tyler Ulis
    Demetrius Jackson
    Dejounte Murray
    Melo Trimble

    Dunn, Ulis, Jackson are likely to go in the first round. Ulis was measured 5’8.75″ at the combine, so prob 5’10” with shoes!

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/point-guards

  • Rick Johnson

    Why don’t they suggest Batum discount for the team?

  • donsmacau

    These are interesting prospects but in the NBA it is rare for a rookie PG to start.

    In the current era, we have All-Star point guards like Derrick Rose and Damian Lillard who started and in the past Hall of Famers like Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas but it’s still quite rare. For example even Russell Westbrook did not start for most of his rookie year. Kemba only started in his rookie year due to late injury of D.J. Augustine. (Injury is probably the single largest reason rookie PGs get a start)

    Certain teams/coaches simply will not start a rookie/young player at the critical point guard spot, the FOs of both Sixers and Nets I believe are solidly included in that camp.
    If either team drafts a 1st round PG from that list (which many in that list will be lucky if they make the 15 man cut, they will be 2nd or 3rd string until they prove they can learn to be an NBA PG).

  • donsmacau

    Batum’s highest value is to the Hornets owing to Kemba’s lack of facilitation skills. Thus almost any other team would not offer what CHA would, so if Batum were to really shop himself around; he’d probably realize his market value isn’t max to any other team. If that is the case, if he wanted to “help the team” he ought to take a discount.

  • wandertheglobe

    Why would anyone give Beverley any attention is beyond me.

  • wandertheglobe

    Hmm…Chen speaks fluent Mandarin. Very interesting and good for him. Hopefully, he’s now free to say what on his mind about the NBA and its treatment of JLin.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    D’angelo started the season as a starter for the Lakers..I may be wrong on that but I believe he did start in the Lakers first game..

    Byron Scott did benched him at some point but I believe he did start the season as a starter.

    Emmanuel Mudiay of the Denver Nuggets also started the season as a starter.

    D’Angelo was picked #2 and Mudiay #7…After these 2, I don’t think there were any other high rated PG.

    Whenever a guard is picked so high, I’d say top 3, it is must likely he will start.

  • wandertheglobe

    haha…Howard wants to collect his easy $20M+, then go into FA in 2017 with an even bigger cap.

  • real-dsb

    every situation is different of course, but I’d say if PG is drafted in top 10, he’s probably going to be the starter by the end of the season.

  • sws94

    Great post. Some really good points there.

    My feeling is Lin needs more than what the Nets currently have. Just isn’t enough there yet. What will happen in FA with any team is of course, to be determined. And it is very much in the realm of possibilities that some really good players can join the Nets that would play well with JLin.

    Linsanity era was a perfect storm, the type of players he had there just really worked with him very well (until Anthony came back). I don’t know what the next one is but, IMO, it won’t look like the NYC experience but I do believe there can be another at least a near-perfect storm for him.

    Lin has a lot of different systems under his belt and I’m more leaning toward Lin get with really great players and pick up things from them in practice and seasoned coaches that will place demands on him that will ultimately lead him to his highest level yet. Someone like Kobe/Nash was the idea that didn’t pan out (not the coach of course) and Kobe mentors no one really. Nash wasn’t there. Oh well.

    I like the idea of Lin deep into the playoffs based on how comfortable, determined, and effective he was this playoffs against a team he had struggled with in the past. I like that it is the big platform where players leave their mark. Therefore, I’m more inclined to go with teams that have the ingredients that can go deep into the playoffs (as of now). That doesn’t mean I don’t want to see him in a place where his game can grow. The bottom line is I see Lin as a winner and agree he can make others winners. And winning in the playoffs is where the biggest winning takes place.

    So, I pass on the Nets for that reason. What I saw from them last year, I picture Lin with them, and I guess I don’t see what other portal members are seeing. I like Lin on the Pelicans as starting PG or maybe Spurs as a high-level usage replacement for Manu who can start for Parker when he needs it and maybe replace Parker down the road. But really, there is still a lot more to come in terms of mutual interest between Lin and some teams that haven’t surfaced yet as possibilities for him.

  • Arsenium12 .

    The Raptors fan jerseys for the game tonight with the Heat, at the Air Canada Centre.

    YYZ is the IATA code for the Toronto (Pearson International) airport.
    __________

  • real-dsb

    like Dirk or Duncan did.

  • real-dsb

    very cool design!

  • sws94

    They did that at a similar age? I was under the impression they were older and later in their careers when they did.

  • real-dsb

    PGs drafted in the Top 10 Overall and the # of starts in their rookie year:

    48 D’Angelo Russell (2015 #2)
    66 Mudiay (2015 #7)
    41 Exum (2014 #5)
    38 Smart (2014 #6)
    63 Elfrid Payton (2014 #10)
    44 Oladipo (2013 #2)
    68 Trey Burke (2013 #9)
    0 McCollum (2013 #10)

    The only Top 10 overall PG in the past 3 drafts not to start in their rookie year was McCollum.

  • real-dsb

    oh right, not a fair comparison since Batum is 27 and Dirk and Duncan were way older.

  • real-dsb

    If a PG is drafted in top 10 overall, he’s almost certain to start significant number of games in his rookie year. Bottom half of 1st round, probably not.

    Kris Dunn is ranked by CBS as #4 overall prospect (of all positions), so he’s almost certain to go in Top 10. If Sixers don’t get one of the top 2-3 picks, it’s possible they may draft Dunn as their PG of the future.

    I don’t think the Nets have any picks this year until 2nd round (55th overall), so they’re out of the picture.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Just like what Rose said (Lin’s big fan from NY) Batum has 14 pt average as a starter. Lin has 18 pt average when he starts. What is the big deal about Batum ??? That’s my question

  • MomentousPetey

    The vines were unnecessary

  • sport

    That way duncan doesn’t have a chance to surpass the number of rings he has.

  • DrewBear2

    I think competition from a rookie is probably pretty low on the lists of concerns Jeremy will have with any organization he joins. Regardless how much a team commits to playing him initially, he (as do most NBA players) will still need to continuously prove himself. I doubt Jeremy worries about competing with a rookie.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    If it’s a young PG picked in the top 3 spot of the draft, I think Lin should stay away..

    No team draft a PG so high in the draft and let him rot on the bench for an older player for too long..This player may not start, but the plan is to eventually groom him into a starter.

    I wouldn’t want Lin to simply be a guy that’s keeping a young PG spot warm until he takes over.

    Lin would be under a lot of pressure to not only produce, but to win because the minutes there’s no chance to make it into the playoff, everyone will be demanding for the young PG to get more playing time so he can develop.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    That’s a very good list…I can remember that most of these guys on your list started at some point.

    Trey Burke is probably the only one that has probably lost a bit of his appeal but my guess is he started at some point.

    Exum suffered a season-ending injury but Utah is still high on him, so my guess is when he’s back from injury, he will eventually get his chance..He’s still young at 20.

    Logic states that if you draft a player that high, your plan is to eventually start him and make him your PG of the future…In this age, lottery picks tend to start right away.

  • donsmacau

    Where are they now?

    D’Angelo Russell – inconsistent but predominanty SG rather than PG
    Emmanuel Mudiay – bona fide starting PG
    Dante Exum – missed entire 2nd season injury
    Marcus Smart – bench player
    Elfrid Payton – struggling after promising rookie starter
    Victor Oladipo – bench player (mostly SG not PG)
    Trey Burke – bench 3rd string; Jazz don’t want nxt season

    So yes some see action but the history of success is a mixed bag at best, many wash out after their rookie starts and like Mudiay you can get lucky and one will remain a solid consistent starter.

  • Joe what do you know

    Valar Morghulis…

  • sws94

    Oladipo is a major player averaging 33 minutes per game. He’s a strong combo guard at 6 foot 4 and 210 pounds.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2527963/victor-oladipo

  • donsmacau

    Bench player

  • sws94

    33 mpg. 16 PPG. Major player.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Jeremy Lin’s future depends on his goals
    http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/charlotte-hornets/jeremy-lin-future-depends-goals/

    Jeremy Lin is looking for the opportunity that offers him the greatest chance to become the best player he can be. This statement can be interpreted in different ways, but based on his past experiences, it is not a stretch to think the announcement means one of two things.

    Either Lin wants to be a starter, or he wants to play for a contending team. The delineation between the two choices exists because of the abundance of All-Star worthy point guards in the league. If Lin wants to compete and win, it will most likely be as a sixth man.

    If he wants to be a starter, his future lies with a rebuilding (and probably irrelevant) team.

    Statistically, Lin appears to be the best player he can be as a point guard and the main ball handler. According to Nylon Calculus, as a point guard where he played a little over one-third of his minutes this season, Lin averaged 18.6 points, 4.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, and 1.4 steals per 36 minutes.

    As a shooting guard, he just isn’t as effective. His numbers diminished in his move to an off-ball role. Obviously, this didn’t’ stop Lin from being a key member of the rotation and contributor to Charlotte’s unexpected postseason berth, but the numbers suggest that he may be better off being the dominant ball handler on whatever team he lands on.

    Putting aside Lin’s stats and possible wishes, a return to Charlotte seems improbable. The Hornets have an unusual number of important free agents, and Lin doesn’t seem to be a top priority for the franchise despite his role in their turnaround campaign. Much of Charlotte’s cap space looks to be spent in re-signing swingman Nicolas Batum and power forward Marvin Williams.

    General manager Rich Cho has even mentioned acquiring a rim protector to defend the paint. That doesn’t leave much money for Lin, who opted out of his contract where he was slated to make a little over $2 million next season. Though money doesn’t seem to be the chief motivator for Lin, it’s a reality that he’ll be seeking a pay raise. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Lin makes Buzz City his home for a few more years, but the evidence doesn’t seem to favor it.

    Keeping in mind Charlotte’s current predicament, if Lin does leave Charlotte for a starting job, two candidates stand out among the league: the Philadelphia 76ers and the Brooklyn Nets.

    He has a history with both organizations’ coaching staffs. Mike D’Antoni, Lin’s coach from the Linsanity days, is now the associate head coach in Philadelphia while Kenny Atkinson, D’Antoni’s former assistant during Lin’s run with the New York Knicks, is the new coach of the Nets.

    Along with the relationships, both teams are in desperate need of a veteran point guard. The current guard situation for the 76ers and Nets is less than ideal. They would benefit from Lin’s playmaking and
    experience. The only hiccup to these scenarios is the fact that Lin would be relegating himself to teams that have no immediate hope of contending.

    Clearly this is an outsider’s view, so I can’t pretend to know what drives Lin. Though if it is a choice between becoming a starter or being on a contender, then it comes to what he believes is most important: recognition or relevance.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Not much of new info in this article at all. Guess this is very slow time in term of news.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW JLin! You really know how to sleep the day away:-)
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/730577133307711488

  • donsmacau

    Sleep is the single best process to recover from INJURY assuming a balanced diet rich in meats.

  • BobbyH

    Probably finished all GOT season 1 and 2 in one night.

  • martan267

    I think Bonnell would have been right had the planets not aligned in such a way where Batum got injured and JLin was then given the chance to play his game. It would have been 4 losses straight.

    God does work in mysterious ways….

  • Acbc

    I agree, Curry is a class act.

  • takeme2cruz

    It has to be.

  • Acbc

    When Steve Nash was traded to Dallas, the fans used to boo him because they had no faith in a white kid from Canada would turn the Mavs around. Donny Nelson kept encouraging him and helped him to fit in with Dirk because both were considered to be unauthentic white foreigners that had no business playing in the NBA.

    Within a couple of years, Nash totally changed the fans around by leading them into playoffs and even with contention. At the end of his contract, Mark Cuban never even bothered to offer Nash a contract saying that Nash was too old and injury prone.

    Jerry Colangleo, then president and owner of the Suns personally brought out a full court press on Nash to resign with the Suns. He personally visited him in Dallas and offered Nash a 5 year max contract. MDA had just taken over the head coaching post midway through the previous season and the rest was history.

    This is why I believe in the Sixers are the best choice for Lin. Colangelo and MDA have been friends for a long time and both have experienced a resurgence of their teams and careers by a PG of the caliber of Steve Nash. MDA clearly know this well with Linsanity. Colangelo probably knows this as well since Nash has a personal relationship with Lin as well. With the president of Sixers on board and MDA coaching, there is little chance that office politics will rear its ugly head the way it’s been for Lin since NYC. Lin’s talent will be then allowed to shine.

    With the Nets, we may run into a bad owner lie Dolan, Buss and Cuban, a bad GM like Morey, or bad coaches like every one Lin’s ever had except for MDA. It’s clear that the best choice for Lin is to join the Sixers next season.

  • Kirk

    Yes! JLin was the X factor in those wins and was able to lead a team to victory against very improbable odds. After those first two losses, nobody in the media thought the Hornets were going anywhere. After all, the Hornets haven’t been winning at all in the playoffs in recent memory. Had Batum not come back their odds of winning the series would’ve been much greater imo.

    JLin always can achieve the improbable, and we can’t ever count out Jlin and a synchronized group of players playing teamball.

  • KHuang

    BIG TIME LOSER

    minor player

  • sport

    There’s also a chance that the Colangelos are not high on Lin. Both have great coaches who supported Lin before or during Linsanity. It really boils down to how much money they offer Lin. Can’t say you “respect” a player and then low ball him. If Sixers offers Lin the Max contract just like what Jerry Colangelo did with Nash then no doubt they are the best team for him.

  • KHuang

    I doubt that the Colangelos think Lin can play in the NBA.

    Why isn’t Lin on the USA Select Team when there are guys worse than him that get invited?

  • Jamie

    Harden was a huge part of making the play offs too

  • Jamie

    They still made the play offs
    and harden had crazy stats
    Was an awful season overall but still cant discredit his work

  • Jamie

    PG position is too stacked

  • Jamie

    except MDA is not the head coach yet
    until then, sixers arent the best landing spot for Lin

  • Jamie

    None of them will be able to produce yet at the NBA level
    I would still take Lin over any of them

  • HVJoy

    That was intersting history of how Nash became top PG. Thank you.

    I hope Lin would join Nets for selfish reason – it would be much easier to see his game live. Kenny Atkinson had helped Lin before Linsanity happened. With him at the helm, would the Nets coaching staff be the right coaches for Lin in your opinion?

  • Jamie

    Scrub
    Beverley is all hype
    will be gone soon
    Rockets need to hire MDA and sign back Lin
    Let Lin and Harden destroy the splash brothers!

  • alain gervais

    sixers have been terrible for 15 years now. They are the example of bad. Free agent run away from them

  • alain gervais

    Dantoni may leave. If so the sixers drop way below a bunch of teams. Brooklyn is my number one at the moment

  • Maknusia

    WoW…good game from Raptors beating Heats (99-91) for a 3-2 series

  • Maknusia

    On the other end…..Blazers are matching GSW….they are shooting great from the 3s!

  • sport

    For two quarters Curry just comes off the bench to knock down an off dribble 3 to end the quarter that’s just amazing! Just quick dribbles for enough separation then bang. Thompson also carrying the team this game with his 30 point game and 16 pt quarter.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I have a funny feeling Lin next team will be an unexpected pick…Right now, everyone believe it’s either Nets or Sixers.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if a dark horse team offers Lin a starting spot.

    Below are a few dark horse teams that could offer Lin the chance to start.

    Dallas Mavericks: They’d have to let Deron Williams leave and maybe Felton or Harris would also have to leave.

    Indiana Pacers: With their disappointing exit out of the playoff, I could see Larry Bird reshuffling the line-up..George Hill and Monta Ellis did not have good year as starter..Ellis only averaged 13ppg while Hill only averaged 12ppg…I could see Bird trading one of the two and signing Lin.

    Orlando Magic: Their young PG, Efrid Payton hasn’t really improved that much during his second year, He only averaged 10ppg although he did register decent assist. 6.4 per game. Today’s PG needs to score more and I could see Skiles wanting to sign a more experience PG like Lin and bring Payton off the bench..Skiles will be under pressure to win next year.
    Lin should not sign there unless he’s offered the starting job from the start.

    Milwaukee Bucks: I get the sense that Jason Kidd is running out of patience with Carter-Williams so Lin could be a great replacement..Kidd will also be under a bit of pressure to improve from the disappointing year of not making the playoff.
    The negative for Lin signing with the Bucks is the fact that Bucks wants to play the Greek-freak as their main PG.

    NY Knicks: If thy can’t acquire guys like Conley or Rondo, I could see them being force to offer Lin a contract. Of course, Melo is still there + they run this triangle offense which doesn’t really suit Lin that well.

    Chicago Bulls: I could see Hoiberg wanting to run a fast-paced 2PG line-up with Rose-Lin. I’m not sure Lin should entertain such a plan since Rose can be as ball-dominant as Walker, but if he’s offered the chance to start, that’d be better than his role in Charlotte. Lin should only join Bulls if he’s starting.

  • sws94

    Almost everyone (believes Nets or Sixers) 🙂

    Why not any of the teams you mentioned. I have no clue whatsoever where he’ll end up.

  • Maknusia

    KT has been almost perfect in today’s game!

  • sws94

    He’s having a Huge game. Curry’s relatively quiet tonight.

  • Maknusia

    still…he has 11 AST……guess he is heating up….

  • Maknusia

    Curry with a clutch 3!

  • sws94

    Curry. clutch. Simply amazing.

  • sport

    Geez Curry’s shot looks like he just throws it up at times and it just automatically goes in.

  • sport

    Curry’s been clutch this entire game can sit and just come in final seconds to knock down a 3s!

  • Maknusia

    yes…he has varies shooting styles…sometimes its really mind boggling…

  • sws94

    LIllard has had a very strong playoffs.

  • JFirst

    Gillard missed. GSW !

  • sws94

    Blazers played very well. Even though they went down in 5 games, they played very competitively and hard.

  • Maknusia

    I would also add…Blazers been really playing well in the playoffs…

  • sport

    Selfish volume shooter not impressed, doesn’t get his teammates involved just goes for his own shots. Blazers are never going anywhere with this hero ball player.

  • sws94

    Too bad Davis struggles at the line. Good to see him in the playoffs, he played pretty well. Of course, I think he played way better in tandem with JLin.

  • Briiick

    7-24, another under 30% shooting night.

  • sport

    Right? his shooting form does vary depending on whether he takes a step back jumper or just shooting a contested shot. Especially those off dribble clutch shots it really looks like he’s just throwing it up with his underhand and it goes in without being blocked.

  • vincent

    Lin would be perfect for the spurs. Man Lin’s dribble drive penetration would help get the spurs playing like they used to. SInce tony parker is slower now he can’t dis the ball out so they are forced to play more Iso’s.

  • sport

    See what I mean? These volume shooters takes close to 30 shots while barely making 1/4 of them. Blazers were dumb to keep Lillard when they should’ve built around Aldridge.

  • Maknusia

    lol…you really dislike him….anyways…their system is molded such a way…

    first option is DL
    2nd CM
    3rd/4rd AM/MH

    From the bench its
    Crabbe/Henderson

  • gandychan

    Respect McCollum. Dude went back for his senior year even though he was a high draft prospect. 4 year players come out much more NBA ready.

  • Maknusia

    real video game guy!

  • sport

    Lillard is no different from guys like Harden and Kemba yet it’s obvious many teams are dumb enough to build around them.

  • sport

    Spurs need to retire their old big 3 already, Parker hasn’t been effective since last season’s playoffs. Make Parker come off the bench . Sign Lin with a big contract to make Lin, Kawhi and Aldridge their new big 3.

  • sws94

    Parker is 34, not 39 and 40 like Ginobili and Duncan. Parker is playing well, he has plenty of good years left.

    Spurs biggest star player now is Kawhi Leonard, not the old big 3 anymore. And Aldridge is their big scorer.

  • vincent

    parker can’t do what he did in 2013-2014 same with ginobili. those two were the pinnacle of their offense. man I dont think ive ever seen higher level of basketball when they blew out miami in 5

  • sws94

    His game has changed but he isn’t retirement age or level of play at all. He’s still an effective player Ginobili is a shell of himself as is Tim. Those 4 or 5 years difference in age between Parker and Tim/Manu make a big difference.

  • vincent

    I wonder how the 13-14 spurs that blew out miami would do against these warriors

  • CJSHYY

    They have to beat OKC first. I am really worry bc Spurs players are too old compare to OKC…. I want Spurs to win not OKC. smh!

    https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/730412501414744064

  • Hans

    KHuang. I’m in Scottsdale for a conference until Sat. Do you have time or are you interested for a meet up ???

  • Maknusia

    unfortunately thats how NBA teams are build….in majority

  • JoeTeam

    Ok, I guess that’s some summer reading if I ever get a chance to relax.

  • JoeTeam

    I like the ability to separate out human foibles from that which is outside of us, in the spirit or luck or karma realm. That way, we are accountable and can hold each other accountable to what is basically good/bad behavior. The way Peck defines it, it’s so clear – wanton destruction of another’s spirit. Well, that then is a pretty good extension of the Golden Rule, and a very useful/important extension. JMHO, though. Thanks for asking.

  • JoeTeam

    meeee toooo!

  • Maknusia

    meeee threee!…but its gonna be tough…I guess

  • vincent

    I def want the spurs to win, but i feel like okc has a better chance to beat golen state.

  • CaliUSMC

    I heard he’s a real life-p****. It’s kind of known amongst Koreans in LA.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the point is, they aren’t playing SPURS BASKETBALL with a slower/older Parker. so whether Parker is playing well or not individually is not the point. Spurs have always played great team basketball until now. when you’re dealing with the Spurs, you should think in terms of team play. don’t think like how the general fans do these days with all the star player talks

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    you are correct about Rose’s style being similar to Walker’s. what’s worst is his defense.. it’s like Harden. if Lin joins the Bulls, i’d hope Rose gets traded. the biggest reason i’d want Lin to play for the Bulls would be Lin/Butler backcourt tandem

  • sws94

    Actually, it’s not all on Parker though. The crisp ball movement had to do with Timmy, Manu, Tony feeding everyone and each other, not just Tony. The addition of Aldridge and more focus on Kawhi has changed skill sets so the Spurs go more towards the post-up skills of Aldridge and one-on-one skills of Kawhi to generate more of their offense. The addition of Lin would have some more ball-movement, but still a degree of Aldridge post-up and Kawhi breaking down defenders.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m not disagreeing about Duncan and Manu being too old because they are. and yes, i’d also agree with you about Parker still having a few more years left. what you’re missing is, he doesn’t have a few more years as the starting point guard for the Spurs to win it all

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • sws94

    I’m aware you are suggesting that and it would big a huge help to the Spurs. I just think the Spurs aren’t looking to replace him at PG and if Lin were to join the Spurs, he’d play like Manu did. I’m not sure how much Pop would play him though. I think, since he’s played so well against the Spurs throughout his career, Pop certainly knows what an A Lin game looks like and how he can be a big part of wins for his team. I do agree, Parker needs a faster, better penetrating guard to help him out while he plays his more mid-range, mid-speed game now. Also Lin’s better D would help them.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    JLin, you really make me so hungry now:-)
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/730588465436360704

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the Spurs have Leonard and LMA now. they need a prime Parker to take them all the way. the starting point guard who can constantly break down the defense with his dribble penetration is absolutely vital to the Spurs offense scheme. i think Pop knows what his immediate needs are and will try to address it this off-season. if he does try to get Lin, i’ll bet you anything, it isn’t to play the Manu role

  • sws94

    I’ll take Lin going to the Spurs in either Parker or Manu role. But I guess we’ll agree to disagree on how Pop would use him. If the Spurs were to choose Lin as their starting PG, that’s a win-win for almost all Lin fans.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it just makes more sense to me for Pop to start Lin if he picks him up this offseason. the problem is $$ though because Lin’s value has gone up due to his own play this season and the cap space. plus the Spurs have spent all of their $$ last season on LMA

  • JoeTeam

    yes, but let’s see if Pops can figure it out.

  • vincent

    the spurs choke in tight situations. I.e miami in 2013, LA clippers last year and then this year they choked 3 games away all of which they shoulda won. I really want them to win, but they have to step it up. Aldridge needs to make some shots

  • Steppen03

    Reply to SWS:
    FIRST, why are we even debating about JL7’s ability to take his team deep into the playoff for next season ?? Advancing in the playoffs depends on many things. What we should focus on right now is: Will JL7 able to lead his team (regardless of teammates) to make playoffs ? YES, Definitely! That’s It. If he can do just that he’s proven himself that he’s one of the top PGs in the league. And that’s the Focus. It’s not about winning a chip – Thats a much longer process – Just look at LBJ and SC30’s history.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    Portland played way better than I thought….. I think GSW will have hard fight w Cav this year(in final) … In fact, if OKC really beat Spurs… It’s going to be another tough fight w OKC too. GSW is good but somehow still not strong enough in someway……???

    https://twitter.com/Money23Green/status/730678696546197505

  • Brent Yen

    Funny, a team lost LMA and it played better. A team got LMA, and it played worse.

  • CJSHYY

    Ha! Interesting….. Maybe bc LMA needs ISO …. Spurs changes the way they used to play….?? Still hope Spurs can beat OKC.

  • Briiick

    CC: MDA

  • PPP

    A perfet team for Lin and MDA. Young and energetic with a very good center. Instant playoff team with great potential, better than the Nets IMO.

  • Jamie

    The spurs did not get worst after getting LMA, that’s just not true. They still had 67wins
    and okc is just too good with durant back.

  • Jamie

    Payton starting Oladipo needs the ball too
    Lin will have simillar role to charlotte if not less

  • Jamie

    wouldnt say the blazers got better either they had more wins and higher seed last year as well

  • PPP

    Thing can change if MDA is the HC.

  • PPP

    IMO, the Orlando Magic is the perfect team for MDA + Lin but….

    https://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins/status/730766353708265472?s=09

    Screw that, haha.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Ha, I had posted a list of teams that aren’t the Nets or Sixers that could be Lin’s next team…In my list of dark horse team, I listed Orlando Magic and how Efrid Payton, their second-year PG did not improved much and the possibility that Skiles might want to get someone else since he’ll be under a bit of pressure to win more game next year.

    Now, we hear that Skiles probably had disagreement with management on Payton’s future…Not surprised…Watching Payton this year was underwhelming….

    For a young guys, he’s good defender but he has a lot of work to do on the defensive-side of the ball.

  • CJSHYY

    Really like Robin….haha! Totally agree w him, of course. I think if game 7 Kemba was not playing…. now Hornets will be vs Raptors.

    https://twitter.com/PeteStopTire/status/730778165681872898

  • sws94

    Lin with Oladipo? Don’t think that’ll work. Too many similarities in their game and IMO, Oladipo would be pushed over Lin as he’s a big bigger, younger and would be considered more athletic (more over the rim type of player). As of now he averages 33 minutes a game compared to last year’s Lin averaging 26-27.

  • DX

    Jeremy Lin gives the Charlotte Hornets the most bang for their buck

    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/5/11/11639500/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets-2015-2016-season-review

  • PPP

    Lin will get 35 min+ if MDA is the head coach.. Otherwise, agree with you.

  • PPP

    Thought Payton was a rookie? I may be wrong.

  • sws94

    MDA played Lin many minutes out of necessity. There was no viable alternative to relieve Lin of all of those minutes on that Knicks team at the time he coached Lin. If he had them would Lin have played less is something I can’t answer.

  • PPP

    You play your pg heavy mins when the game is close. With this young team, there will be a lot of close games and they need Lin to lead them to win.

  • james brown

    easy answer for that because its history, before linsanity, MDA was ready to accept new pg for nyk because he has no idea who jlin was, but after that 8 games wherein nyk got the win, MDA for sure found the hard facts that jlin deceptively play differently on practice and actual games, but he knew as MDA pointed out that jlin has a great character and has perseverance and dedication towards his games.

    right now, MDA always specify when asked on all his previous interview on how he likes the reunion but no opportunity yet.

  • DX

    As more people said Lin should go to Nets or 76ers, have more feeling which this won’t happen.

    Jeremy Lin’s future depends on his goals

    http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/charlotte-hornets/jeremy-lin-future-depends-goals/

  • sws94

    I’m just leery of team mates that can do what Lin is known for (slashing to the basket, strong defense and hustle). My instinct is saying LIn and Dipo have a potential for overlap and competing for minutes and he’s younger. They have potential for playing well together too. It’s hard to predict chemistry. ‘Dipo recently turned 24 and some think he is a superstar in the making.

  • james brown

    IMO…JLIN will definitely want to re-tracked his dream…roll player first, then become a starter, and when such factors were there it will be an already set for a championship…his being a starter is not for his experience only but a step towards that dream championship…

    so right now, he’s looking for a team that will give him the opportunity to be their starting PG and if that is in place, such team will work on his next goal which is the championship.We know that JLIN can make a team a contender as evidenced by history whatever team he’s been (except team with agenda to tank)

    and that is my take!

  • PPP

    In Lin we trust.

  • psalm234

    Reddit Nets fans are assessing their fans interest in JLin
    Very positive comments
    https://twitter.com/NetsViews/status/730735167686492160

  • psalm234

    Good comment(s):

    – I’ll pay Lin top Lin price. He’s amazing and is a joy to watch. We didn’t have much of that this season
    – Yes…I love to have Lin. I want him to go Linsane and make Knicks fan cry.
    – Lin is NOT a career bench player. He has played 183 games as starter, including a full season as a starter playing for Rockets (without missing a single game), and 186 games from the bench, so it’s almost 50:50
    His stats
    As starter: 14.2/ 5.7/ 3.1 (pt/assist/reb), FG%/3P%=44.1/36.1 From bench: 9.2/3.1/2.5, 41.9/32.2

    From the stat you can tell he is actually a significantly better player as a starter. His reputation as a bench guy is to a large extent artificially created in Houston because Rockets FO wants Harden to handle the ball all the time, and they can’t find a way to solve the conflict with another ball-dominant PG on the same court (see what happened to Ty Lawson, turning into a pedestrian when playing along with Harden). The only solution they came up is to push Lin to the bench. Not that it’s wrong from the team perspective, but they should have made it clear it’s not about Lin’s inability to be a good starter. Instead they put a stigma on him that he’s just a bench guy. This is quite unfair to Lin imho

  • sws94

    Skiles is a good coach. He may get a new head coaching job soon.

  • CJSHYY

    First one sounds like Nets fan but second one …. Lin’s fan…Haha!

  • psalm234

    Or a Nets fan who simply wants to make Knicks fans cry 🙂

  • sws94

    I think Lin tends to pour out some of where he is in his journey in his testimonials. This can happen on an upcoming trip. I personally don’t think it is a good idea to keep going back to what he said in the Linsanity movie. I think then is then, now is now, Lin will share some of how he feels about basketball and beyond which may give us clues on how he proceeds. But he likely will not say what teams he is considering, at best, maybe describe the type of team he’s looking for.

  • CJSHYY

    Now media & fans are ready…. next it’s up to Nets FO… really want to know what Kenny Atkinson is going to say…. I bet someone will bring up Lin in press conference for question…

  • psalm234

    I read Nets FO led by Sean Marks would be secretive in their strategy just like the Spurs so they would probably give non-answers to any FA/draft questions. That’s probably the right approach to help their negotiation

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Oh! Then Mon’s press conference probably just really intro Kenny Atkinson then….

  • sws94

    Can you please repost the Nets press conference with the link to the web site for Comcast users? If you can, thanks much.

  • sws94

    Oh, it’s Monday. For some reason I thought today. Maybe, it can be made a feature post on Monday.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    Thanks!

  • webattorney

    People can do whatever they want as long as Mod says otherwise. If not breaking any rules, that’s fine.

  • webattorney

    I think you should give at least one warning for posters who are not used to this site’s rules. Two strikes rule.

  • webattorney

    Yes, I rather read differing views presented in a respectful manner rather than similar views as my own presented in a hateful manner. I enjoy reading views which differ from mine as long as they are presented in a respectful manner or playful manner.

  • webattorney

    “Lurker” seems sinister. Lol As if you are lurking to do damage.

  • wu kong

    interesting info form nylon calculus site: http://nyloncalculus.com/2016/05/12/revisiting-preseason-highly-plausible-projections/

    Revisiting Preseason Highly Plausible Projections

    Posted on May 12, 2016 by Andrew Johnson

    Basically he looks at his predicted wins and then looks at the actual wins … interesting numbers:
    CHA was predicted to win 38 pre-season ( this means with MKG)… actual wins of 48
    HOU was predicted to win 52 Pre-season actual wins 41
    more at link if interested…

    chart :

  • wandertheglobe

    Magic roster has lots of PGs. Also, looks like Evan Fournier is pissed about Skiles leaving. He twitted some 4 letters word about it.

  • wandertheglobe

    LOL…they lost Batum as well and gotten better. Granted Batum had a bad year before leaving Portland.

  • TTNN

    they did take advantage of some of the West team ski dived, like Rockets, Mavs, etc., and Obviously what happen in Clipprs helped a lot too.

  • 22cents

    Ha Ha.
    Yes from fan’s base.
    NO from FO POV.

    Do not get me wrong. I want Lin as a starter. But I bet the Net FO will be evaluating every possible scenario before the make up their mind.

    I believe (a strong word) Lin will get a nod from the Net. ^_^

  • Briiick

    Harden is overrated, Lin is underrated.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This year was his second year in the league..Next year will be his third.

    He’s a sound defender with good steals stats but very raw when it comes to offense and scoring the ball.

    The Magic FO are hoping he’s a young Rondo who could develop similar strait.

  • Kirk

    Hey Webattorney,

    No doubt they can, and I value multiple viewpoints. What I don’t value is the condescending tone of a lot of these posts: claiming that everyone else is being unwise, impractical, and worst of all, arguing for something Lin doesn’t want by even mentioning Brooklyn or Philly. This comes of as a God complex, as these posts claim monopoly on what JLin thinks and very subtly mock and criticize everyone for thinking something else.

    I am even cool with posters saying JLin sucks. But it’s not okay in my book to say that posters who want JLIn to start are being foolish and not doing what JLin wants. And to repeat this ad nauseum. Talk about JLin, don’t make it about the posters.

    What wound up happenings that many posters got angry by all the condescension and fired back with insults. They got banned, or their posts deleted. Some posters like Dorothy have left this forum entirely.

    I could sense a lot of pent-up frustration on this forum and just wanted to articulate it, that is all. Obviously, 31 people have agreed so I am on to something.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy should be doing stuff like this. He’s smart, insightful and articulate. Maybe when he gets to be a starter …

    via ESPN …
    Boston Celtics point guard Isaiah Thomas will serve as a guest analyst on ESPN’s NBA Countdown [a pregame show] during Games 3 and 4 of the Eastern Conference finals.

  • kauaiblue

    Lol… someone from here!

  • John Focker

    Definitely, and they would’ve seeded higher.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Lin sure can do 10 times better than IT.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    Pop will make adjustments. I hope they play from ahead. Good luck, Spurs.

  • CJSHYY

    Sure hope Spurs can win tonight. So nervous.

  • sws94

    Yeah, I’m a little nervous too. Especially because they are playing in OKC>

  • spiderman

    ESPN bias

  • psalm234

    Jeff Hornacek rumors for Pacers and Magic HC opening
    https://twitter.com/NBCSports/status/730839400557350912

  • spiderman

    Nets fans and management would not be too bright if they did not want Lin as a starter.

  • psalm234

    MDA odds to be the Pacer Head Coach on May 6: 3/1
    (tied with Brian Shaw)

    https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/728638207512981505

  • CJSHYY

    Pacers is really low key… it’s more than one week now why there’s no news on any progress at all??

  • sws94

    Real possibility then of him signing there then. Shaw doesn’t have the success of MDA, not even close. His players didn’t respond well to him as a coach. Not sure why his odds are so good.

  • donsmacau

    Little to No possibility of MDA signing with Sixers.

    My theory has not waivered, MDA will be rumored/even interview for Head jobs but will not be hired/accept any position with another team. Consistent with Colangelos’ desire to install MDA when the environment suits this action.
    ————————————
    “Jeff Hornacek To Pacers?”
    http://hoopshype.com/storyline/jeff-hornacek-to-pacers/
    “The Pacers also are believed to be strongly considering former Suns coach Jeff Hornacek, who has emerged on the short list of early candidates for Orlando, according to two people in the coaching industry.”

  • PPP

    Thanks

  • Cycloben

    Truth.

  • Cycloben

    This reminds me again why I hate the Rockets so much.

  • Lin Dunn

    Hi
    If you scroll down there is a short clip of Lin talking about his parents making his favorite dishes. One of the dishes looks like shredded cabbage dye in orange. Does anyone know what dish is that? Thanks

  • Steppen03

    Spurs needs to lose in order to make drastic change regarding starting pg position. Not that I want them to lose but OKC is underestimated all year – They’re as explosive as GS. Not only KD & RW – the team is real deal if they tighten up.

  • Spot

    Do you think the Colangelos will let MDA leave? Even Brian was in pole to be Nets’ GM.

    I still don’t believe it if I don’t see it

  • Spot

    Shaw was Vogel’s assistant couple of years ago.

  • sws94

    Thanks, great point.

  • wow, in the comments, some hornets fans saying they’d be okay with trading away kemba and letting lin be starting pg.

  • Uh-Oh

    If my eyes are ok, I believe that’s carrot.

  • Spot
  • grover chang

    Bird said he respected McHale too much to have him under him as coach. I guess he doesn’t respect these guys.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    In fact. it won’t be a bad idea that the Thunder represents the West. Cavaliers’ meanest opposition in the Final should be the healthy Thunder.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks, I prefer the ribs

  • Jamie

    doubtful
    they are sold on payton and other young guys

  • Jamie

    yep they were lucky

  • K

    Yam Congee?

  • spiderman

    Lin gave them the most bang, regardless of buck. He was Hornets most impactful player

  • takeme2cruz

    I believe those are shredded carrot and Asian garlic chive pancake.

  • DX

    That will be cool. But it barely happen as Rockets trade Harden or Knicks trade Melo.

  • psalm234

    I don’t blame Bird for wanting to avoid firing his ex-teammate McHale if it doesn’t work

  • psalm234

    Nate @JonesontheNBA wonder if Pop might use JLin as a wild weapon
    https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA/status/730859610878279680

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    not sure what a wild weapon is or if Pop is even that kind of coach but i’ve always believed Lin is a perfect successor to Parker. Lin, Leonard, LMA will be the Triple-L(insanity) of Death!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    that’s shows how professional Bird is. he doesn’t want McHale to work for him because he doesn’t want to show favoritism which he knows would lead to problems

  • alain gervais

    Spurscould use Lin in twoo ways. one as a Ginobli replacement. Two as a parker prodigy. Still Lin fans will lose there mind over pop. He will get in lins face. He will scream at lin. On live tv. Im ok with it. Was ok with cliff doing it. Some here won’t. Im still not sure Spurs can afford Lin.

  • wu kong

    if it is happening to all the players. no ‘cornerstone’, star treatment then I do not believe we Lin fans will ‘lose our minds’. I believe what makes most of us angry is the unfair treatments… the excellent play by JLin resulting in LESS time on the floor not more. The terrible play by other players and no sitting on the bench, no yelling to get your act together. I have seen Pop get onto Duncan when he deserved it. Have you ever seen Harden, Melo, Kobe, or Kemba get straight up yelled at? Lose play time because they are playing poorly?

  • NONONO

    If Lin has to be a backup and he still wants to play competitive basketball , them Spurs would be the best choice.
    I believe Lin will find a starting job.

  • grover chang

    Spurs need Lin more then he needs them. Give Lin a team with no diva, a shooter, and a big who could PNR. That team could go deep in the playoffs.

    Basically he needed rockets minus harden and Lakers minus BS/Kobe.

  • alain gervais

    Some will still get mad

  • Uh-Oh

    Don’t think so. I have a very good instinct.

  • DX

    ‘The Charlotte Hornets Meet With Daniel Hamilton of UCONN’ via @fansided

    http://swarmandsting.com/?p=40988

  • alain gervais

    Spurscould use Lin in twoo ways. one as a Ginobli replacement. Two as a parker prodigy. Still some Lin fans will not be happy by the way pop coaches. He will get in lins face. He will scream at lin. On live tv. Im ok with it. Was ok with cliff doing it. Some here won’t. Im still not sure Spurs can afford Lin.

  • psalm234

    Yes, at this juncture of Lin’s career, he needs a lot of PT because he proved his starter stats efficiency are better than the bench stats’

    In 2-3 years from now, not many will offer JLin a starting role if he stays as a backup.
    He’ll be seen as a career backup PG

  • alain gervais

    Poor choice of words. I apologize. I hope you are right. I hope the make a move for Lin. As I’ve said More bidders more better

  • alain gervais

    If he goes to the spurs as the heir to parker?? would you be ok with it?? How much money do the spurs have?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    hornets and their obsession with uconn players. sad

  • BobbyH

    Or the whole 76ers team with bunch of rookies.

  • psalm234

    it depends if Lin is the clear heir and he has at least 25+mpg
    Spurs is a loyal org; I think they will give Patty Mills a chance to be starter or lot more PT than Lin since he was a key player in their championship runs.

    I love the Spurs but I think it’s better if Lin is the clear starter for 2-3 years to establish he’s a proven starter who can lead a team. Lin needs 32+mpg to show what he can do. I don’t know if Spurs in 2016-17 is the right place.

    I’m afraid Lin won’t get a lot of PT as a Spurs next season and we’ll be in the same predicament as Lin fans wishing he can show what he can do :[

  • sws94

    Go Timmy!

  • John Focker

    More accurately, congee with shredded sweet potato.

  • CJSHYY

    Duncan plays well so far.

  • alain gervais

    I was thinking about something. Yea its scary to have Lin in another Lakers situation but it has to be remembered Lin had no choice in the matter. If you look at Late bloomers. They go to bad teams. Kyle lowry raptors was a bad team when he was there. Tragic and Isaiah thomas the suns was a bad team. Lin will not be given a starting job on a playoff team. He hasn’t proven it yet. Those teams are also too risky, They simply have too much option. If you even look at datum he went from portland a play off team to hornets who was not. Lin needs to take that risk. He has to once again bet on himself. It takes some luck but not really. To me brooklyn is the clear choice. Sixers is close second. I was worried at their losing ways but I’m betting on Lin. Lakers wasn’t Lins choice. They didn’t have the right players, coach, or front office. Bulls if they give Lin the starting job. Dallas 4th on my list.

  • sws94

    Our own TTNN made this chart or at least posted it to the atthehive comment section on Lin in the playoffs (Jeremy Lin article comment section).

    It boils down to the minutes *with* the touches which I call involvement. Whatever team he’s on, starting or high-usage 6th man, that’s what I want to see from Lin. But I also want to see him on a winner, in the playoffs the next season and beyond.

    Spurs means playoffs. But does it mean the crucial minutes and touches? I don’t know.

  • sws94

    Great to see. Hope he gets lots of points tonight.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Perfectly agree with your Patty Mills statement…..Patty will start ahead of Lin simply out of loyalty…and Pop is familiar with him.

    Pop would really scream at Lin a lot and would not let Lin play through mistake..I’m almost sure of that..Pop is a great coach but he’s an out of control screamer..I would hate to see Lin get screamed at on TV every damn game.

    And as far as I’m concern, Lin should not even consider the Spurs until Parker retire because if he goes there now, he still will be behind Parker and Mill at PG…Maybe Lin could get some time at SG but that wouldn’t be enough minutes to make it worthwhile.

  • alain gervais

    I posted my response on top lol

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Totally agree….I’d rather see Lin start in a bad team than be a bench player on a team like Spurs/Cavs…He will never get enough minutes or enough credit in those teams anyway.

    Lin is 27 so he needs to move now..If he’s offered the chance to start, he has to grab it and try to put up some numbers.

    Even if it doesn’t work out for Lin, Lin can go back to being a back-up for a great team when he’s older..But now, he still has too much to prove to ignore the rare chance of starting in this league.

    I’d rather Lin get his chance to start for Nets or the Mavs but I’d accept the Sixers as the last option.

  • alain gervais

    pop- as soon as we substituted it went to cr@p

  • sws94

    Manu is done. Sad. As you could figure out he was one of my favorite players in his prime and he would have throwback games. Don’t think he’s capable of those anymore.

  • alain gervais

    father time is undefeated

  • sws94

    Yes.

  • james brown

    if he will be a back up there, less money will be offered to him, with no definite assurance of his PT and usage, unless Pop got the MDA Experience!

  • james brown

    kind words to say that i don’t want my team to be a mess with your coaching ways!LOL..

  • sws94

    OKC is overwhelming the Spurs with speed and rebounds. Not looking good for the Spurs.

  • KHuang

    Like I’ve written for the last 5 seasons, the Spurs are NOTHING without Tim Duncan being a one man team.

  • KHuang

    I seriously doubt that Popovich thinks Lin is good enough to play in the NBA.

    Popovich was all obsessed by Jason Kidd years ago – and Kidd would have been a TERRIBLE fit because Kidd could not shoot.

    Meanwhile we have a BETTER Jason Kidd in Jeremy Lin (stronger, faster, tougher, more fundamentally sound, and much better scoring than Kidd), but nobody wants the Asian guy even if he drops 38 and 29 against the Spurs.

  • sws94

    The same Lin he said was spectacular, they couldn’t stop him? I don’t know how he could not think Lin was good enough to play in the NBA. He’s had really strong games against the Spurs for a few seasons now including tying his scoring record at 38 points against them.

  • KHuang

    If Popovich had though Lin was capable of making the NBA, Lin would have saved the Spurs against OKC.

  • Briiick

    Isn’t Pop going to retire along with TD ?

  • KHuang

    They refused to offer Lin a contract.

    $2 million was deemed too much for the Spurs to pay Lin.

  • KHuang

    We’ll see.

    Though I am a Spurs fan, I don’t worship Popovich like most NBA fans do.

    Popovich is a superstar only coach, but it just so happens that his superstar is the NBA’s most unselfish player in Tim Duncan.

    Duncan is the real coach of the Spurs, not Popovich.

  • KHuang

    No team that properly utilizes Lin stays bad for long.

    Lin would easily have the last place Sixers deep in the Eastern Conference playoffs even if the Sixers added no additional players.

  • KHuang

    Popovich wouldn’t even let Lin make the roster.

  • KHuang

    No way.

    Lin is the one player the Spurs DON’T WANT

  • KHuang

    Those guys are NOT GOOD ENOUGH to play teamball with Lin.

    Lin would siphon the defenses away, but those guys wouldn’t be able to capitalize on the softer defenses.

  • takeme2cruz

    Aldridge is lost out there. He’s ball stopper, missed shots and can’t guard PnR.

  • Briiick

    I do think Pop has his system though because his former assistants are becoming HCs and are duplicating Spurs’ success to some extend.

  • sws94

    Durant for 3. Bang. That’s how it has gone for the Spurs. 55-31. Spurs were awful.

  • sws94

    Leonard absolutely would IMO. LMA is a Melo-like player, kind of an ISO guy but Lin could get him shots as well if he worked with him. Leonard would.

  • Briiick

    Spurs are done, now it’s Lin’s time.

  • sws94

    What does that mean? Lin is done too (for the season).

  • KHuang

    The Spurs run a simple modern day spread offense with 3 out 2 in.

    The difference between this season and previous seasons is that if the Spurs offense failed, the Spurs could throw it to the NBA’s most unstoppable weapon in Tim Duncan for 2 points.

    Other teams without a Duncan (i.e. the historically bad 76ers with ex Spurs assistant Brett Brown) are finding out that there’s only one Tim Duncan.

  • alain gervais

    I think he is talking about Lin way of playing being the future. Right now curry ball is dominating

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    hush. u’ve always hated on the Spurs. stubborn KHuang

  • sws94

    Lin is playing in whatever system he’s in. Spurs system is fine, they just got old.

  • Briiick

    I was not optimistic about it when they got Adridge, thought he is not as good as what his stats suggest.

  • Jamie

    Their backcourt is horrible
    Popovich is a fool thinking they could get way with that backcourt

  • Jamie

    Spurs needed a scorer and he’s it

  • joy

    Spurs look really bad tonight so far. They are not the Spurs I see early this season. What’s matter, guys?

  • CJSHYY

    I am too upset now…. what happens w Spurs?? smh!

  • Jamie

    OKC too athletic
    Spurs too old
    Horrible backcourt D-League level backcourt
    LMA needs to toughen up on D
    Popovich is not as great anymore

  • Jamie

    sounds sacarstic
    and cant see pop and lin get along

  • sws94

    They fell apart in a surprising way. It’s tough to watch.

  • Briiick

    I am surprised that Mills has only played 4 minutes, thought he wasn’t bad at all.

  • joy

    Let’s go Spurs! Don’t lose your heart!

  • Jamie

    He’s not good enough either
    They have no one in backcourt

  • Jamie

    Popovich shouldnt have paid Green 10m/year big mistake
    Lin-Lee could be a good backcourt for them but oh well Popovich is kind of blind at the point of his career

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    My guess is Pop forces Parker, Genobili and Duncan to retire after this embarrassing game….Spurs needs to move-on from their old stars and bring some fresh faces.

    Even if Lin doesn’t end up a Spurs as their main PG, if the PG spot opens up, it creates more starting PG spot available for everyone…My biggest concern is other players will crowd out Lin for a startint PG spot.

    Guys like Teague and Rubio may be available via trade and this could be even harder for Lin to grab a starting spot.

  • sws94

    Ginobili has nothing. smh.

  • zxcvb

    To be fair, Pop says the same thing. He was asked the secret of his success and he said, “Tim Duncan.”

  • Briiick

    It’s their loss as long as Lin finds a starting PG job. Lin has a track record to make his teammates better, make them play like stars—-so there is no need for some overrated “stars” to join and pad their stats.

  • zxcvb

    Green had an awful season, but he’s not the problem. Put him next to a PG like Lin, and Danny Green will play like a 10M/year player. He’s there to defend and catch-and-shoot 3s, but Parker can no longer collapse a defense like he used to. Neither can Manu.

    Ironically, Spurs had a very good chance to beat the Warriors, but the Thunder just bludgeoned them with athleticism. Westbrook being slightly less unselfish after Game 3 (where he took 31 shots despite being cold and KD being hot) pushed them over the edge.

  • alain gervais

    They are just too old. Everything else is ok. they just won 67 games

  • CJSHYY

    I know…. Can’t believe why they played so bad today… I am done w the game. smh!

  • joy

    Does anyone know if this is Duncan and Manu’s last season?

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    Duncan has 19 points. What a champion! I don’t know if this run will get them back but at least they are fighting back.

  • alain gervais

    Its expected. conley is the top pg in free agency. deservedly so

  • sws94

    Hang in there. They have it down to 15. Duncan has 19 points. Never give up. Remember what Lin did to the Spurs!

  • zxcvb

    No announcements, but Manu is probably retiring. He said he was contemplating it last season, and he looks spent. Duncan is close but it’s 50/50. Probably retires if he wins a title, but that doesn’t look so good right now. He’s quiet but a competitor…not sure he wants to go down like this.

    Parker has less in the tank than Duncan even though he’s younger. But general consensus is that he’ll definitely come back and probably play another year after that. But who knows? He looks really old out there.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope so but I really don’t have confidence Spurs can win this game.

  • sws94

    The momentum has turned some. At least it’s interesting now. And it is great to see Duncan get 19.

  • CJSHYY

    He’s still good even at 40.

  • Jamie

    They never had a chance at defeating the warriors

  • Jamie

    too old and cant move
    did well in regular season

  • alain gervais

    He got blocked clean there.

  • Acbc

    No, he deserves nothing in my books. He’s given it by a league that shuts out Lin from even being in the running.

  • joy

    Thanks. I guess tonight’s game will probably help them make the decision.

  • TTNN

    uh….. your book don’t count…. sorry

  • joy

    Pop keeps Duncan on the court till the end.

  • Briiick

    Face saved.

  • Acbc

    Uh….I don’t need you to tell what counts or not….sorry

  • Acbc

    What truly is amazing is how Lin keeps kicking the Spurs and yet they will turn a blind eye to his talents.

  • Briiick

    Parker deserves more credit than is given to the fluid offense for which Spurs used to be known. Pop could just retire with the GDP.

  • HVJoy

    It is anyone’s guess.

    Both ESPN SportsCenter and NBA GameTime had pundits talked about if Duncan would retire after this R2 G6. The commentators had different opinions whether Duncan just played his final game in his long illustrious NBA career.

  • CJSHYY
  • John Focker

    My personal read is that Pops, a discounter of D’Antoni’s run-n-gun system, dismisses Lin by association. Kind of like a faction issue.

  • sws94

    I think Duncan still has something left. It’s just hard after 82 regular season games and then on to the intense playoffs to have the energy to play at the level you need to at his age. He may come back next season and play lower minutes.

    Manu looks done. My favorite player for so many years, especially the long-haired prime Ginobili had not much magic this season left in his body. I don’t think it makes sense for him to come back next season. But he’s made his mark.

    Parker looks good. He’ll be fine for a few more years. His mid-range shot is now his bread and butter.

    Aldridge doesn’t fit with the Spurs. He’s too much a post-up ISO ball-stopping type of player.

    Leonard has to work a bit at being the go-to guy, making those shots he puts up. He’s getting there. He’ll be one of the best players in the game in a year or two. He’s very close to it now.

    Pop sort of pulled things out of the hat tonight. Whatever game plan he had fell apart. But, there was a bit of a comeback in the 4th.

  • sws94

    But Lin did great against his team engineering wins in McHale and Clifford’s systems. That association is now 4 years back. And really, it was very brief if very noticeable.

  • alain gervais

    They didn’t have the money last year. Im not sure they will next

  • John Focker

    I doubt that the taste of Linsanity washes away so easily. In a sense it’s like garlic. LOL

  • sws94

    OK. But it was a different flavor that really took it to them and beat them 🙂

  • HVJoy

    The taste of Linsanity is like garlic … for a garlic lover. 🙂 It lingers on and on.

    The fragrance of Linsanity is like an unforgettable French perfume … for me. 🙂

  • PETE B

    or maybe pops just isnt media freindly enough for reporters who will ask about Lin. Hes grumpy and media averse at times

  • vincent

    lin could work in san antonio. My only issue would be his minutes. if the spurs decide to keep parker and mills, then what would happen to lin? theres no way Lin should settle for a shooting guard position again

  • CJSHYY

    If they really want you they will find the money for you. So I totally agree money just show how much this team value you.

  • joy

    The fragrance of Linsanity is still there. We’ve smelled it several times this season. 🙂

  • 22cents

    When TD retired, the spur will no longer the spur we used to root for.

    So, I am not sure that I want Lin to be there.

  • joy

    The head coach is really the key. Like some of the earlier comments said, I’m not sure either if Pop will treat Lin fairly if Lin joins them. Unless Pop is retire too then it’ll be a total different situation.

  • CJSHYY
  • Guest

    For a little Taiwanese woman, you can be very abrasive and rude. You must have a few mutations.

  • CJSHYY
  • Guest

    Ginobili also had one of his family jewels blown up this season (ouch!!!). If that doesn’t convince him to retire, nothing will.

  • Guest

    They may yet go after him Mr. acbc. They may yet.

  • Uh-Oh

    I think you misread her.

  • Spot

    Exactly

  • Spot

    Aldridge is selfish.
    Leonard is superselfish.
    Spurs were born and will die with Tim Duncan.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Uh-Oh

    I mean I don’t feel such tone you said in the post. I shouldnt say you misread either.

  • Spot

    Agree

  • Spot

    Exactly.

  • JoeTeam

    All of a sudden, KD is looking much stronger to get his ring. Hmmm … nah. But yeah, I guess KD and RW are going to be tough covers for GSW.

  • John Focker

    Spurs were good even before Tim Duncan’s arrival. David Robinson set an excellent role model for Duncan to follow, while handing off the baton. To say that the Spurs were born with Duncan would be disrespectful to Robinson.

  • joy

    I’m sure Green and KT can stop them. 🙂

  • Maknusia
  • Maknusia

    Thats gonna be one heck of a series!

    I wish the final would be redesigned to have 4 teams and go with that….even loosing at conference finals, they still get a go at playoff finals and no easy team from a weak conference would be able to go for a playoff final’s …final 😉

  • zxcvb

    If Brooklyn offers at least 10M per year, Lin should accept immediately. That’s by far the best situation with the greatest possibility to shine and the least possibility of being swindled with a surprise trade or draftee.

    I listened to Woj’s podcast with Sean Marks from February, and Marks talked about the importance of high character guys and off-court chemistry more than any other GM or coach I’ve ever heard. It was basically half of his 40m interview. Talk is cheap, but he sounds like the opposite of Morey, who only talked about raw stats and how chemistry is overrated.

  • Cycloben

    I say no to Jeremy taking a discount just for the promise of a starting position, aka a “starter” discount. That is just as bad as an “Asian” discount.

    If Brooklyn wants his services, they need to cough up what Jeremy is truly worth.

  • Steppen03

    I don’t like JL7 to be on the Spurs coming season… Unless Spurs offers him max contract $15+ mil per and starting role. The Spurs should have sign Lin as Ginobili’s role this season… Just want JL7 to have his own team to run and it ain’t going to be the Spurs… maybe down the road, just not now. Too many teams turned their backs on JL7… Well, I have a lot to look forward to this coming season – JL7 and his team taking Top 6 seed – at the least even as Sixers or Nets.

  • Acbc

    Back in the first year with Lin starting for the Rockets just after Linsanity, there were many favourable articles about Lin,s style of play. One of them was a comparison to Westbrook and how both of them had an attack mentality that smashed defences and wrecked coverages. They were the “masters of chaos” the “destroyer of space time” and the “wrecking ball of any defences”.

    The Spurs lost is a reminder of how if you start to believe too much in the praise of others, those others will run you over. Pop simply showed a disrespect for adjustments by others to their vaulted ball movements and system. Alderidge compounded that by being a poor piece that didn’t help that movement.

    How the Spurs lost this series could be traced to how they lost to Lin and the Hornets. They were killing the Hornets starters and embarrassing them until Lin subbed in and ran them over with his speed and athleticism. Lin and Westbrook are the wrecking balls of any defence. Their ability to penetrate into the paint made the Spurs look slow and displayed in full view how old and slow they were.

    This is why the NBA fails so badly to promote the beautiful complete game of basketball and instead cheapens it to showboating and empty calories of fake superstars. Offence is easy to see, ball movement is easy on your own body, making others chase the ball doesn’t require young legs. That’s why they lost. Their old bodies just didn’t have it to chase down balls or Westbrook. Lin has always shown that he could make them look slow. Lin is Russell Westbrook with brains, that’s how scary good Lin is. LINSANITY is Westbrook with brains.

    Lin made a perfect 4 for 4 3s against the Spurs that Hornets game while attacking the rim and kicking out to perimeter guys for wide open 3s. Spurs had no answers for Lin because of his athleticism and speed smashing the interior defence opened up the outside shots and on top of that Lin was shooting well from the outside.

    Offence is never enough to win championships. Defence is how you build a winning team. Winning isn’t about scoring as many points as you can, it’s scoring enough while holding your opponents down below their average. Lin has killed Parker over the years shutting him down completely. Offence you can compete with talent, defence is all physicality, athleticism, toughness and desire. It’s in defence that age can and will make an obvious difference. Spurs lost on that difference.

  • Steppen03

    Big $$ = More Respects. Why offer so little when you truly value him ?? Bigger paycheck = Bigget role. Don’t think of Hou – not everyone is like Morey & Harden.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Seem like JLin will have his Asia trip in early-mid June. His testimony in Taiwan will be on 11 June.
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/731089296292122624

  • grover chang

    If Duncan comes back it will be for a two year deal with second year option. He doesn’t want a goodbye tour like Kobe.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Some background …

    The Kaohsiung Cultural Center (Chinese: 高雄市文化中心; pinyin: Gāoxióngshì Wénhuà Zhōngxīn) is a cultural center located in Lingya District of Kaohsiung, Taiwan. It was founded by the city government in 1981. The main building of the center is a complex of two concert halls, many galleries, and a library.

    The main building is 13,884 m2, the main audience hall located in the center called 至德堂 seats an audience of 1672. The next largest hall 至善廳 seats 483 people. The cultural center is accessible within walking distance South from Cultural Center Station of the Kaohsiung MRT.

    See : http://arts.cultural-china.com/en/102Arts13548.html
    __________

  • grover chang

    Love your posts. The comparison of Lin and Westbrook is a good one. Lin is smarter then Westbrook but not as athletic. And to Westbrook credit he is freaky athletic and this season got a lot smarter.

    GSW vs OKC. Curry vs Westbrook is going to be interesting.

  • martan267

    Great analysis, as always, Acbc! It’s been said before just recently at the other site by @GoodDayLA about his ability to drive and attack. Although I don’t agree with everything he said, his talent to get in the paint, to drive and attack is an elite skill in the NBA.

    “GoodDayLA
    6 days ago
    My belief has always been that Lin has one singular talent, that he is a 1 trick pony. But that talent is extraordinary even at the NBA level.

    What Lin fans mistake is that I mean it in a derogatory way. Rather, Lin’s pick and roll and driving attack is probably the best in the entire NBA. No, Lin is no high jumper, not the strongest attacker, but his mixture of skill makes him the best attacking force that continually puts pressure on the defense play after freaking play.

    What he lacked during LInsanity was refinement of that skill which he now has more of though it’s undeveloped since he’s been used as a scrub off the bench for 3 seasons now in a limited role.

    Kenny the JET Smith has properly identified that skill and which is why he’s so high on Lin. The Jet sees what I see.”

    I recall back in 2012 when Robin Lunberg, a radio sports talk show host, so very much wanted the Knicks to re-sign Lin because he saw this elite skill that Lin has, even back then, raw though it might have been, which is the ability to get into the paint, to be able to attack the rim with speed and athleticism.

    Only a couple of years ago, Lin was number two, only behind Lebron in made baskets by driving to the rim.

    It is why he has the third highest number of fouls, when the flagrant foul calls were being discussed earlier this year. He gets fouled because he is too fast for opponent defenses to get in front of his attack.

    JLin is as athletic as Westbrook and I disagree with other posters that Westbrook is a better point guard than JLin, my opinion.

  • Brent Yen

    Nice find!

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Just read tweet about Spurs needs PG but from their fans comments can tell… no mentioned about Lin at all. (that 3 mentioned about Lin all his own fans.). They name Teague, Schröder, Conley, DW, Rondo….

  • Brent Yen

    I have a slightly different view on defense. I think defense wins championship is correct but in a sense that a good D team means a team with good discipline and desire. It is actually discipline that wins the championship

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I don’t think Lin should go to Texas and play basketball there for whatever teams they have.

  • CJSHYY

    Why?

  • David Kim

    NBA Rumors: Jeremy Lin, Ryan Anderson to San Antonio, Spurs look to go younger in 2016 free agency

    Justin Gloria – May 13, 2016
    NBA Rumors: Jeremy Lin, Ryan Anderson to San Antonio, Spurs look to go younger in 2016 free agency

    The San Antonio Spurs lost to West rivals Oklahoma City Thunder in six games in the Western Conference semifinals series to end their season on a disappointing note. NBA rumors will now surround the veteran team as they look to add new and younger pieces in 2016 free agency like Jeremy Lin and Ryan Anderson.

    Top free agents like Kevin Durant, DeMar DeRozan and Al Horford will most likely demand maximum contracts and the Spurs’ budget may not be enough to land them but San Antonio management can still target role players with hopes to replace the aging Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. Duncan and Ginobili will most likely retire after they got exposed in the OKC series while Parker may still be good but could be better in a back-up point guard role.

    Jeremy Lin and Ryan Anderson are role players that will not demand a lucrative contract like Durant, Horford and other top free agents.

    Lin has recently stated that he is opting out of the final year of his contract with the Charlotte Hornets. Lin added that he is happy in Charlotte and wants to resign with the team. However, if the Spurs aggressively try to sign him in free agency, the Asian-American guard will have to consider as it is hard to pass up on the opportunity of playing under coaching great Greg Popovich at San Antonio.

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    Anderson is an unrestricted free agent and free to sign with any other NBA team although he could also stay with the New Orleans Pelicans featuring star big man Anthony Davis. However, at 28 years old he is in his prime and may want to sign with a team that is contending for the title.

    I dont agree that lin is a role player.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Haters everywhere there.

  • 22cents

    “Jeremy Lin and Ryan Anderson are role players that will not demand a lucrative contract like Durant, Horford and other top free agents.”

    Lin may not demand “lucrative” contract but Lin wants to be a “key” player , not a “role” player.
    Just with this sentence, Lin has minimal chance to be there.

    TD is one of the best power forward who knows when, how and where to “pass” the ball.

    Also, when TD retire, I am very dubious that the Spur will be the same team ball Spur we like.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    and it’s started…

  • HVJoy

    Let the rumor mill start churning… The more, the merrier! 🙂

  • Acbc

    I agree and it’s the hardest thing to teach. Like that Flagrant 1 that Westbrook (?) got away with near the end. That was totally uncalled for and undisciplined. Had he been ejected, they could have lost the game. In fact I was surprised he wasn’t considering it was as bad as the Durant flagrant 2 he received.

    A lot of people think mental toughness is fearless desire, but it’s not. It’s the ability to remain calm to control the levels of adrenaline and emotions. It’s discipline that Westbrook (?) lacked when he hard fouled to the head on a clear open drive by Green (?). At that point in the game with a lead, you just cannot risk taking yourself out by a stupid foul.

  • CJSHYY

    He wants to go to Nets too? He’s 27 like Lin.

    https://twitter.com/Teague0/status/730771486051569664

  • sws94

    Sometimes a player will congratulate a former assistant coach on a head-coach position. He may or may not be interested in the team, however.

  • CJSHYY

    But only saw his tweet from Hawks player… plus Schröder was the one to the end vs Cav not him. Rumor always said Schröder will replace him.

  • Acbc

    IMO, Lin’s greatest gift is his ability is his mental game. No one walks the high wire of death defying heights of pressure like Lin has done time and time again. He simply wills his team to victory. His second greatest gift is his PNR attack the rim.

    Lin is the quarterback that doesn’t just makes great plays for his running backs and receivers, it’s his brain that calmly calls the right play to anticipate what the defence will give him that makes him so good. As a PG, Lin’s ability to involve his teammates and make them look good is totally underrated. Lin find his teammates best skills and sets them up to do exactly those skills at the exact locations they like to do it from.

  • sws94

    That could happen, yes.

  • Lin Dunn

    Teague is not a free agent this summer

  • Acbc

    3s vs 2s will be the difference IMO. I want GSW to win it all…fingers crossed.

  • Lin Dunn

    Even if Ginobli leaves, spurs have Parker and Mills.

  • CJSHYY

    They can trade him if they really want him. It seems people more high on him than Lin in general.

  • Lin Dunn

    What do the Nets have to trade? They won’t trade Brook or Thaddes for Teague

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think Parker still can play….

  • Lin Dunn

    I am all for Lin to go to Spurs in 3 yrs. By then he will hopefully establish himself as an elite PG starter. TP may retire and Lin will replace him. I think there is a higher chance for Lin to get his ring with Spurs than the Nets. No one knows the future that is just my ideals

  • sws94

    He could potentially get a big role but it wouldn’t be the role Lin fans want to see for him. He could be the Ginobili replacement and relieve Parker as well (Lin is considered more of a combo guard by many in the league, not just a PG). He could spot start for Parker and play alongside Parker or Mills. Or not. It all depends on how Pop would want to use him. He may have up and down minutes just like he does now and the same range of 15 to 50 minutes when all is said and done. And he’d do it on a team in transition where the biggest player is a post-up ball stopper and no longer the greatest power forward that ever played.

    Aldridge changes the dynamics of the Spurs in a negative way IMO.

  • Lin Dunn

    I believe one of the conditions that Aldridge to sign with Spurs is for Pop to be HC for another 4 yrs

  • Rick Johnson

    Max & Marcellus + Scoop Jackson: 13:00 Max says Spurs should get Jeremy Lin rather than Conley

    Says Patty Mills can’t get penetration

    5/11/16 hr2 Starting at 13:00

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=15511832

  • sws94

    I think they are changing. They seem to want Durant. That makes them a different type of team than they’ve been. Pop will then adjust his system probably to fit Durant/Aldridge if he can get Durant. It would be a very superstar-headed team of Durant/Aldridge/Leonard. I don’t care for Lin on a team like that.

  • Brent Yen

    Yes sir!

  • CJSHYY

    They said Lin can come off the bench & can play 1 or 2… & he can start too….

  • Rick Johnson

    He could learn from Tony Parker but I think will eventually be starting much of season as TP slowing down.

  • sws94

    I’m not seeing it. WB is like the Charles Barkley of PGs. He’s an angry, fierce, almost bullying type of competitor. I respect his talent but don’t really care for his style of play. Lin is a more active, tough, probing, slashing player looking to get teammates going more. I find them quite dissimilar.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But the fan didn’t seem as high as the hosts… maybe the only reason he likes about this suggestion it’s Lin cost less.

  • sws94

    That’s what he did last year. I lot of commentators and fans think the same. They don’t think PG first like is discussed in Lin fan sites. They think more versatile guard off the bench and how he can influence a game that way.

  • sws94

    Lin could have won the Spurs the series if he replaced Ginobili in that series. That’s my opinion. And he should get paid for how big he can impact a team, however they choose to use him. At least $9 million.

  • CJSHYY

    I know…. to fans in SA, they don’t think Lin as their top choice to replace TP… they name players like Conley, Teague, Schröder, even DW & Rondo….but Lin….

  • takeme2cruz

    Scoop Jackson sounded like a Lin doubter and facts don’t matter with him. He concerned Lin defense? WTH?

  • CJSHYY

    SA will not pay him high salary. I really don’t think he will go to Spurs next season no matter it’s for TP or Ginobili.

  • sws94

    Well, that’s their loss. None of those players seem as fit for the team as Lin. Maybe Schröder but he’s not as mature and developed or strong as Lin. DW and Rondo are horrible for them. Teague and Conley are mid-speed PGs, Conley is better because he has great instincts and makes few mistakes on the court. But he’s not that dynamic.

  • takeme2cruz

    Why would Lin go the Spurs to continue to play backup?

  • martan267

    Oh I definitely agree with you on that! I was focusing on his physical abilities. That goes without saying that his mental abilities are top notch, from his toughness to deal with the pressures both on and off court and his innate leadership and influence so that a team of disparate personalities and skills can somehow coalesce to go for one goal, one mindset, and that is to WIN!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I bet they didn’t even watch his games in Hornets that much this season…. all they had image about Lin still so so player w bad D….

  • sws94

    That’s plain stupid at this point. Anyone who says that is clueless about Lin and shouldn’t utter that anymore.

  • sws94

    Idea is to go to a strong playoff contending team to go deep in the playoffs. Does he want to do that? I have no idea. I think his testimony may tell us more of where he’s at when he touches on basketball.

  • takeme2cruz

    Unfortunately that clueless opinion on national radio is spreading.

  • Rick Johnson

    Max rebutted him on that, said he’s an underrated defender.

  • sws94

    I don’t know where he’s going. All of the teams we talk about are those that have a need that Lin could fill. Which one Lin chooses is the great mystery IMO.

  • sws94

    Not much anyone can do if people want to be ignorant. Cliff has said that’s not the case, Lin showed in playoffs that’s not the case. So if that’s what some people want to believe, it’s their choice.

  • sws94

    And the thing is, Parker was never known for his defense.

  • sws94

    Yes! Very much underrated.

  • CJSHYY

    I mean the other guy.

  • Rick Johnson

    Jeremy Lin #6:

    John Schuhmann
    ‏@johnschuhmann
    Biggest On-off court NetRtg differential in the playoffs. Kyle Lowry tops among guys still playing:

    https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/731123876973948929

  • takeme2cruz

    Well, the more teams show interest in Lin the better. Hope he’ll make the wisest decision.

  • sws94

    Yes. And when Duncan joined they were the “twin towers”.

  • takeme2cruz

    awesome numbers for Lin despite bad coaching in rotation and touch.

  • DrewBear2

    Backup to a starter who is approaching the end of his career. There would be a clear line of succession. More importantly, Jeremy would be joining one of the best organizations in basketball.

  • DrewBear2

    I doubt Popovich cares what the fans think.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s what we all thought last season with the Hornets didn’t we? I am talking about #2 position.

  • sws94

    I think Lin should be 6th man if he plays off the bench. Not a bench unit guy type of bench player. I find that unacceptable and a waste of his talent if he is a 18-20 minutes backup PG. Most on Houston and Charlotte, he was a 6th man. And he should close a significant amount of games if possible.

    Or he can go with starter even if it is on a weak team in the hope of help making them respectable to as far as he can help make them. It’s up to him to choose his way.

  • Rick Johnson

    Clifford is no Popovich. Spurs don’t have an agenda to promote superstars.

  • takeme2cruz

    Sending the 5-ring champ to the bench for newbie is much more impossible.

  • donsmacau

    January 26, 2016 …”Every player wants to start” – JLIN

    April 13, 2016 …“Does that mean I don’t want to start or whatever? Everybody wants to start and be the man, me included.”

    May 5, 2016 …”For free agency, I will seek out every opportunity that gives me the greatest chance to be the best player I can be.”

    Now, what evidence from JLIN do you have — to support any of the JLIN to bench comments you incessantly provide to this forum?

  • donsmacau

    There is no reason for JLIN to go to Spurs as a backup.
    JLIN is 27 years old and will absolutely join a new (likely non-elite) team as starting point guard. At 27 this is the right time to instill in the NBA that you are a starter.

    Therefore apart from lack of any bona fide chatter apart from speculative rumors in the blogosphere, there rightly is near zero chance JLIN goes to Spurs as a backup or otherwise.

  • DrewBear2

    My recollection is Jeremy’s main role was to back up Kemba. But there was never any talk about succeeding Kemba, who is younger, as starting PG. If Jeremy goes to the Spurs, I imagine it would be primarily to back up Parker at PG. Tony is much older (in basketball terms) and peaked (in terms of playing time) years ago.

  • Jamie

    He just said Lin should be a 6th man if he is coming off the bench.
    He didnt say anything about Lin wanting to come of the bench or anything

  • Jamie

    If he goes, gotta be a starter but I have this feeling Popovich won’t like Lin very much
    So, I’d rather other teams as a starter and more featured in the offense

  • donsmacau

    And one day’s pigs will fly – that is the same likelihood.

  • sws94

    He ended up coming in the game for Lee or Batum more than Kemba and playing a lot of minutes with Kemba. I think the end stats were Lin at SG 70 percent, PG 30 percent. Not exactly a backup PG.

    There is a possibility that Lin would split time at PG and SG on a new team since he was used effectively that way on the Hornets.

  • DrewBear2

    “Every player wants to start” is one of those sports cliches like “take it one game at a time” or “it’s all about the team”. There is no doubt that becoming a starting PG is one of Jeremy’s main goals (remember he achieved this in 2012), but so is winning a championship. We just have no way of knowing which goal is more important or how much more important.

    All other things being equal (which it never is), my wild guess is that Jeremy would rather play backup to an aging Tony Parker on a team with a chance at a championship vs start on a 76ers team that will struggle to even make the playoffs anytime soon. Just a guess, which is all we’re doing here.

  • alain gervais

    im not against the spurs move or the bulls. Both are looking for successors to their current PG. Although i would go there unless I’m sure I’m the successor and the coach and i have a good standing. If my choice is between Spurs and Bulls ill take the bulls.

  • takeme2cruz

    I have that feeling too but I might be wrong.

  • alain gervais

    If theres any team that can get the most out of Lin its the spurs. More interesting. Spurs have no one who can drive. That whole game by the spurs was missing a Lin type of player

  • takeme2cruz

    Last season everyone had a chance to get Lin for cheap and as a backup. That’s over now.

  • alain gervais

    Ginaobli is done. Lin will either play a ton at PG or SG. Danny green struggled this past year

  • donsmacau

    Give it up – you’ve lost – JLIN is going to his new starting PG job and Hornets back to OBLIVION.

    The truth is – JLIN’s true fans, who are students of his history, words and interviews have a MUCH Better understanding of JLIN’s goals and objectives than YOU do.

    Since you selectively believe word JLIN says (apart from his politically correct Exit interviews)…

    … why don’t you present EVEN ONE QUOTE from JLIN that supports your contention that he wants what you desire for him?

  • alain gerva