How Jeremy Lin’s True PG Mentality Helped the Hornets 13-4 Run Without Attempting a Single Shot

In this day and age of score-first, pass-second NBA Point Guards like Kyrie Irving, a healthy Derrick Rose, Damien Lillard, some Jeremy Lin fans ask if he is not better off as a backup PG because he has the true PG mentality of being pass-first, shoot-second point guards like Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, etc.

Just as Chris Paul and Rondo (who is a poor shooter but great passer) have a place as a starter in the NBA, Jeremy Lin also has a place as an NBA starter in the right system. The Hornets win against the Knicks offers a glimpse of Jeremy Lin’s ability as a true PG to make his teammates better without attempting a single shot since the Hornets was able to make 13-4 run to break open the 4th quarter by feeding Al Jefferson’s hot hands and picking up great defensive intensity winning Turnover battle (4-1).  When Kemba Walker checked in with 6:15 left, the offense stopped going to Big Al and focused too much on Kemba’s hot shooting. As the defensive energy also went down (losing TO battle 2-3), the Knicks made a 21-17 mini-run but it’s not enough as the Hornets won with a final score of 111-97.

This stark contrast of Lin and Kemba’s PG style offers an explanation why Lin’s court-vision can make his teammates better by feeding the hot hands (plus improving defensive hustles) even when he has shooting struggle (possibly due to elbow bursitis) but Kemba’s hot shooting may lead to offensive inefficiency and defensive letdown.

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Question: “How is Jeremy Lin better than Kemba as a Point Guard? Am I the only Lin fan who does not mind him off the bench?”

1. PG Definition
Check out the wiki definition of what PG responsibilities are:

Point Guards are expected to run the team’s offense by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right players at the right time. A point guard, like other player positions in basketball, specializes in certain skills. A point guard’s job is to create scoring opportunities for his/her team, or sometimes attack the basket.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_guard

Once we agree that a PG main responsibility are the following:
1. Control the ball and make sure it gets to the right players at the right time
2. Create scoring opportunities for his/her team, or sometimes attack the basket

then we can use a combination of eye-test, game analysis, statistics to answer this question.

2. Better PG? Better SG?
My short answer is JLin is a better pure PG because he can run the offense and distribute the ball to the right teammates even without scoring (i.e. Al Jefferson whose post-plays can’t be stopped by the Knicks, MWilliams 3, Hawes on fastbreak). Not all are recorded as assists, just like Hawes shot FTs when he got fouled on fastbreak.

This ability to make teammates better is very important since it’s the PG job to ensure teammates are involved on offense, which translate to them being involved in defense.

Kemba is a score first, pass second PG which is why he had limited success because he doesn’t create as many opportunities for his teammates. He actually fits the definition of a Shooting Guard more. And he’s a great scorer

3. Example of a true PG finding teammates with hot hands
Example: The Hornets made 13-4 run with JLin as the PG from the start of 4th quarter (81-72) even without him attempting a shot until Kemba checked in with 6:15 (94-76). After Kemba checked in, Knicks cut the deficit a bit with 21-17 run but it’s not enough as the Hornets won with a final score of 111-97

If you watched the game or look at the game log, you’ll understand why
1. The Hornets scored 6 out of 10 offensive possessions during the 13-4 run because JLin repeatedly fed the ball inside to Al Jefferson scoring 10 out of 13 pts. Hawes made 1-2 FT; Lamb had 2pts. JLin didn’t even attempt 1 shot
Defense: Hornets won the Turnover battle (4 vs 0)
2. After Kemba checked in with 6:15 left, the Hornets still scored 6 out of 10 possessions but defense suffered and Kemba did not feed Big Al inside (only 2pts off 1 JLin assist in this period). Kemba dominated the offense with 2 TOs, 2 out of 3 shots, 2 technical FTs.
Defense: Hornets lost the Turnover battle (2 vs 3)

From this example, you can understand the different PG mentality that JLin and Kemba had.
JLin feeds the hot hands of teammates first while Kemba feeds his own hot hands first.
JLin understood Big Al presents a huge matchup with Robin Lopez who couldn’t stop him at all so he kept going to Big Al. Lopez got ejected because he was finally frustrated unable to stop Big Al. Kemba on the other hand chose to keep scoring as an SG since he felt he got the hot hands (he probably remembered he needs to fulfill the #WinWithWalker campaign by scoring more)

JLin is a great PG and Kemba is a great SG trapped in a PG body.
That’s why JLin has a greater ceiling than Kemba in making his teammates better to accomplish more (big wins over Cavs, Spurs). Kemba can work with Lin (Raptors OT win) but too often he shoots too much (inefficiently) when he gets hot.

But the Hornets have invested in Kemba so JLin would need to find a team that needs him to be a true PG.
It’s just the NBA business.

Coach Clifford Comment on How Lin’s Game Can’t Be Measured with Statistics Only

Coach Clifford also confirmed that Jeremy Lin a much much better player with better shooting, defense & his game can’t measured by stats.

MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 79 vs BKN
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Why not?

  • DX

    2nd, not bad.

  • Rick Johnson

    What To Do With Ish Smith?

    http://hoopshabit.com/2016/04/07/philadelphia-76ers-ish-smith/

    “But the market doesn’t have many point guard upgrades. Mike Conley represents the biggest upgrade, but I envision Conley to decline Philadelphia’s advances, spurning the Sixers to sign with a contender. Jeremy Lin is probably the best option here. The NBA Draft is where the Sixers might be able to find an upgrade, but not an immediate one.”

  • heart

    Third is a charm!

  • orLinaryjoe
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Watching the highlight, I see Noel is an underrated shot blocker and a PnR guy.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    One question, how often do you see the Hornet bigs win the opening tip-off?

  • golfhacker

    Hardly ever. Zeller has no hops.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Me neither.

  • Thanks 🙂
    Hopefully it helps all JLin fans and non-JLin fans to understand how JLin’s True PG mentality can make his team better by feeding the hot hands and increasing offensive/defensive intensity.

    He definitely as a higher ceiling than Kemba to empower his teammates and make the team better.
    That’s why he should have a chance to lead his own team. NBA will be shocked with more games like Spurs and Cavs wins!

  • JoeTeam

    No JLin game tonight, so we can root against HOU or watch the 2nd biggest game this season … GSW trying to keep the record chase alive, with Pops likely resting his players at GSW. Next GSW v SAS at San Antonio will be the really exciting game.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, the no-scoring runs JLin orchestrates tells us his game is maturing, and he has yet another quiver in his bow.

  • Linzen

    I see you are doing your homework already. 🙂

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No games and slow at work today. haha

  • Rick Johnson

    What about Embiid? Is he a Al Jefferson type of big or more athletic like a DeAndre Jordan type or a big Ed Davis? I like Ed Davis but always thought he was too small to go up with some of the big centers in the league.

  • Rick Johnson

    Root for TOR to beat ATL and CHI to beat MIA. Best opportunity to gain in standings.

  • JoeTeam

    good reminder! Guess I’m bored with the season to end, so I totally forgot we want JLin to go deep. Yes yes …

  • LAJane

    Thanks so much for putting the work in on this great analysis psalm234. The vid examples are so helpful! Really appreciate what you do!
    And all the other great mods too!! ♡

  • John Focker

    “Shoot-first PG” is such an oxymoron. And it’s sad that so many of the so-called basketball fans, some even claimed experts, fail to understand basic definition of the position. It is akin to explaining how to use knife and fork to someone at a Michelin-starred restaurant.

  • Linzen

    NICEEEEEEE!

  • Linzen

    Rooting for PHX & Devin Booker to have a monster game.
    Not sure if it is wise to chase the 73W for Warriors. They looked so tired in their last game. 🙁

  • LAJane

    LOL. Nice. I think it’s kinda the same with “stats”, by which most people mean just the basic box score. Oh well, let them eat with their fingers 🙂

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I didn’t know he’s even existed. He’s out all season.

  • John Focker

    …and not even the entire box score at that. Many don’t look past the scoring column, perhaps because they only mastered addition. FG% and other stats require understanding of division and percentage, which may be way past some people’s math proficiency.

  • I am The Jason

    Philly just needs to give Lin the keys to the kingdom and he will deliver some magic.

  • Rick Johnson

    Embiid looks like a good huge shot blocker, Alley Oops and good foot work in the post. Just needs to get healthy so he can play.

    https://youtu.be/P8_MDi2bZrU

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks @psalm234:disqus for the writeup on this. Hopefully fans will stop argue about this for the remaining of season and playoff games. My prayer for JLin is to find the right team/coach who doesn’t pay lip service with a starter job from next season on.

  • Rick Johnson

    Joy Jeng ‏@Loveforlife0323 1m1 minute ago
    m.k.k._ (IG):Absolutely Linsane 🏀❤
    (@JLin7 at #CHAatNYK)
    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/718223619558649857

  • Rick Johnson

    A real 7 footer that has hands and much more athleticly than stone hands Asik.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Best thing about this July is we still have a lot playoff from Lin coming up.

  • jolno

    At the end of the day, it’s the total stats as a TEAM that’s going to decide win or loss. Great players are capable and willing to sacrifice their own stats in order to make the total team stats better. However, such players are few and far between. What we often get though, are fake “great” players who got their SHINY stats at the expense of their teammates, and thus lowering their total team stats in the process.

    I think the most famous example is Kobe Bryant. Sub him out for another more team oriented shooting guard and we are looking at more championships for the Lakers instead of the five they’ve gotten in spite of Kobe’s losing ways. We are also very familiar with Harden and his stat-padding offense looking-only defense. Kemba is like a player who’s not as offensive talented as Harden but treats Lin better than Harden did. However, Kemba’s actual play on the court might be more damaging to his team’s winning than Harden. Look no further than Hornets’ team winning percentage prior to Lin’s arrival.

    In summary, fake “great” players are specialized in freezing their teammates out on offense to make their own offensive stats look better. The end results are often their teammates not trying as hard on defense and got no shooting touch when they sometimes received the hot potato pass from those ball hoggers. Unfortunately, many fans thought such players are “superstars” and their teams can’t survive without their “heroics”. Well, the NBA and the shoe company are very happy because they get to sell more overly expensive merchandises to those fans.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Feel bad for so many of those youngsters, Lin will move on.

  • JLin is in a good mood with cheeseburgers and arriving home late at 1:30am last night
    I bet he was happy being able to play PG to help the Hornets win. Oh yeah, the 3pt cross-over dagger too LOL
    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/718210193776107521

  • JLin and one big fan wearing his jersey
    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/718223619558649857

  • Rick Johnson

    They can follow him to his next team like we will.

  • Yes, such is the state of casual NBA fans who only read impressive individual stats but their lack of defense cause the team to lose. Harden is definitely the ambassador who opened up casual fans to the danger of lethal scoring with lazy defense 🙂

    I agree that Kemba is like a mini-Harden in terms of style and ability, although he’s quite good on the personal level.
    I see he tried to pass to JLin a few times.

    He does have limited court-vision so he goes with what he knows best to keep scoring. And he definitely wants to be the Top Dog. It’s funny and sad at the same time watching him getting so hot in scoring that he develops tunnel-vision not to distribute the ball.

    But it is what it is. It will be a good short-term partnership in this Hornets season.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    very nice write-up, psalm234! 5 Stars! A pleasant transaction! Would definitely buy from again!
    -since we can’t actually up-vote a thread itself, i give it my typical Positive eBay Feedback! 😀

  • Rick Johnson

    Remember this poor Knicks fan?

    https://youtu.be/yAcK6qG3CEs

    JLin later Skyped him:

    https://youtu.be/T0Yu-TiYmL4

  • Brent Yen

    LOL……

  • jimmyL

    There are great individual players like Allen Iverson, Vince Carter and Carmelo Anthony. They are not fake
    basketball is also entertainment at this level
    There are great team players like LeBron James, Steve Nash, Chris Paul
    Harden is like in-between he does have a lot of assists he did lead the team all the way to the conference final he was the real MVP last season.

  • Brent Yen

    IDK

  • heart

    Hope Lin’s elbow is better today. This angle looks bad. Didn’t we also saw him w/ a sock size left elbow before? God have mercy…

    https://twitter.com/dragon_wingz/status/717747153737625600

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    “He might come back one day…..” Dad

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    looks like i’ve awoken the beast…

  • jimmyL

    Kemba is more explosive than Harden
    Harden is a very efficient scorer in a sense because he gets to the line so many time where he shoots at 85+% hes a smart guy
    Kemba can’t dish out assists like Harden does

  • Rick Johnson

    Come back on another team and whip the Knicks …..

  • grover chang

    Let’s go Suns!!!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Kemba is better defender than Harden. i’ll give him that…

  • Rick Johnson

    Go Raptors and Bulls !!!

  • jolno

    I think one of the main differences between Kemba and Harden is that Kemba is sometimes willing to share the ball but he lacks the talent (vision, height, among others) to actually excel under team concept. On the other hand, Harden is more capable of playing winning basketball but he’s too lazy to play defense or do any proper cuts on offense without the ball. I still remember Harden playing well with Lin when he first got to Houston. He was even cutting without the ball to receive a Lin assist for an easy dunk. Too bad his head got too big soon after and the rest is history.

  • jimmyL

    that doesnt say much….

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    hey, i’m trying..

  • Niceee …:)
    thanks, fellow Linning Ebay-er!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    still got that Lin bobble head in watch list. waiting for the price to drop…

  • KL

    Great article @psalm234. If I may just add that for Lin, it goes beyond feeding the hot hand. He is very good at seeing mismatches and exploiting them.

    Also the QUALITY of Lin’s assists are elite. He does not get volume assists by handling the ball a lot. He does not simply pass to people who are open. He draws the defence and puts his team mates in the best position to score hence the high number of fouls by opponents and free throws that are earned. This also puts the team in the bonus. That is why Lin’s team ball is winning ball.

  • grover chang

    Last year Western conf finals teams in must win situations tonight. Warriors to make NBA history and Rockets to stay in playoff race.

  • kauaiblue

    Teah! Go psalm go!

  • kauaiblue

    Lol

  • jolno

    I guess I am kind of loose on my terminology here. My definition of great means great contribution to their team’s winning. I do not mean great entertainment wise nor great at 1-on-1.

  • rookie75094

    Let’s go ronnie price! ! ! Spank the Huston rockettes! !! Hehe.

  • sws94

    Great points. If a player gets fouled and get 2 FTs, it’s not called an assist but 2 FTs end up in 2 points or 3 in an +1 and made FT. And putting the team in the bonus is big, every foul becomes 2 FT attempts. Lin does a lot of hard work to make easy shots for others.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i actually liked the headofsnake. he’s a good teammate and plays with a lot of energy. can hit the open 3’s, too

  • KL

    Also the other team’s defence has to adjust. Guys get into foul trouble. Non-shooting fouls results in free throws. Big impact.

  • sws94

    Get the best shot. Great team work here.

  • HVJoy
  • james brown

    a slower version of stoudemiere..but with better handle and also injury prone?

  • JoeTeam

    they are in a mental rut … not sure how they can get out of it, so that’s gonna be a test for coaching. You are right, or maybe they can do 4-0 and go into playoffs mentally ready. Not sure what they need.

  • JoeTeam

    Pops just said on local TV he’s playing everyone tonight. If you love bball, it’s a game to watch.

  • JoeTeam

    what is psalm selling on ebay? Maybe I’ll buy one …

  • JoeTeam

    Went for a one day spring ski trip yesterday … 3 in-and-out stops. You know I was thinking about our boy Lin. My stomach isn’t working quite right yet.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Just want to remind everyone, Lin is still playing with one healthy ankle, bad shooting elbow and back pain. And still zero disappointment.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Which part of the country still has snow skiing in April?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Apparently also his shoulder. Saw there was an ice wrap on his shoulder as well. He had more injuries than anyone wanted to know.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Just watching the stat between Rox and Phoenix. Seem like it goes hand on hand. Interesting development there.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Wow, didn’t notice that on video either. Defense really takes a lot out of you.

  • CJSHYY

    Rox is really not good now… vs Sun it’s tie game? Hope Sun beat Rox today.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    If Miami wins the game against Chicago, seem like Hornets will stay at #6 probably until end of season.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Phoenix is 105 v Rox 103 with 5:58 left. So far I saw 2 pts differences between the two teams.

  • heart

    I thought I also saw a tweet picture sometimes ago of his inflamed left elbow somewhere too.

  • Thanks 🙂 JLin has improved his half-court offense since 2012 so he can probe and exploit mismatches very well now.
    His timing is impeccable in freezing the defenders and deliver the pass.

    And his ability to draw fouls is similar to Harden but yet different.
    Lin’s speed to go around his defender draws so many early fouls, which put teams in foul trouble/bonus as you correctly stated so they can’t defend so aggressively putting them at a disadvantage.

    Harden is more an expert to draw fouls with flawless theatrics when attacking the rim. The ref’s mind just can’t help to blow whistles when he cocked the head back upon contact. Even Lin has learned quite a few tricks from him.

    Lin is certainly becoming a more complete player 🙂

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I only thought the shoulder tapping was to support the elbow but maybe I was wrong since no one mentioned.

  • careful 🙂 we don’t have athlete’s stomach like JLin
    He will recover faster than us for sure

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes it showed in Joy’s tweets. JLin has this issue for a while. Shoulder one believes it has showed in Raptors game. Since I wasn’t able to watch much games in the past week or so, no idea when it happened.

  • Michael

    Even though I just woke up, I read every word. Love it.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW Can’t believe the game are so close between Toronto 86 vs Atlanta 88 with 1:00, Miami 85 vs Chicago 84 with 4:59, Phoenix 107 vs Rox 110 with 4:04

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    OK. Seem like Atlanta is going to pull a win from Toronto now.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • grover chang

    Suns take the lead. 113-110. Go Suns Go!!!

  • Win

    Go Suns!!!

  • DX

    yes, 115-110. Sun plays not bad, why only won 20 this year.

  • DX

    7 points lead and 1 minutes left. Suns is winning.

  • KWC

    miss the good old days of chandler alley oops

  • sport

    Any news of Lin draining that elbow yet?

  • sport

    Not the same watching him play homes games.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep Atlanta is winning. Seem like Miami is going to win. Definitely Suns is going to win. Great!

  • t8kit2dMAX

    Lmfao Houston

  • Lam

    YESSSS!!!!!! Rockets lose.

  • DX

    Sun win 124-115

  • Whitman Lam

    Miami and Atlanta are just better teams, they are finishing strong down the stretch.

  • Joe what do you know

    Rockets exploded again!!! Woohoo!!

  • sport

    Before that they need to seal the deal by firing Brown and hiring MDA as coach. So glad everything is solidifying before they make any offer for Lin so there’s no worry of snakes like Hinkie and Brown! I seriously hope Brown is gone before off season; he’s no different from those hater coaches and for sure won’t use Lin properly.

  • rookie75094

    Rockettes lose….yeah…

  • grover chang

    Rockets shoot 58%, but don’t score in final 3 minutes. End game with Suns on 12-0 run. Not clutch.

    No effort either. Out rebounded by 20 and 38 second chance points by the Suns.

    Rockets lose in a chorus of booos at home. Playoffs are unlikely.

  • Whitman Lam

    Rockets shot 57% and 42.4% from 3 …. yet they still lost. LOL !

  • sport

    Good, hope they will be out playoffs.

  • Whitman Lam

    But then they get to keep their draft pick.

  • Lefon Jang

    Atlanta is a good team. They’re a playoff team.

  • Lefon Jang

    They can pick all they want. Just don’t want to see them in the playoff.

  • heart

    Harden got his $. I will not be surprised if secretly he wants an early vacation. It’s a win-win situation for him.

  • Lefon Jang

    Their defense and their bench are the problem. Patrick Beverley is just a junkyard dog that’s out to hurt people. He plays no defense.

  • grover chang

    Clutch fans ready to get rid of Beverly. They admit he isn’t good.

  • t8kit2dMAX

    Dallas could afford to lose the next 2 games and still be in the playoffs and their last game is with the jazz maybe they’ll let the jazz win just to shove it down Houston’s throat

  • grover chang

    That’s priceless!

  • Yascar

    So did our old friend Harden break the record for season turnovers? I think he needed 3 more to tie. So ironic and such sweet revenge.

  • Steppen03

    Yeah…!
    Nice Going, Suns!
    Sweet….

  • heart

    Guys/gals, GSW vs Spurs game is up. All starters on both team are playing. It’s going to be good…

  • donsmacau

    Means that Popovich has given the orders to ruin the record for Kerr and the Warriors

  • sws94

    Probably will be Hornets vs. Atlanta. Whether it is Atlanta, Boston or Miami, all are tough teams. Hornets should try their best to beat Boston in their upcoming game. Don’t want to lose all 3 this season to them.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Harden got 3 turnovers tonight, giving him 366 for the year. Here are some stats for his years with the Rockets. The 2015-16 stats don’t include tonight’s game.
    __________

  • Yascar

    If he has 366 then he has tied the record. He will set a new one next game. This makes me happy. 😉

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Clippers have no reason to play their starters next game since they have no purpose to win. Plus it’s a sweet revenge from the Rockets for their last playoff.

  • Briiick

    Stud fabricating team doesn’t deserve a playoff spot.

  • I am The Jason

    Congrats to Lin, Ed Davis, Wesley Johnson, and possibly Jordan Hill for making the playoffs after their purgatory with the Lakers.

  • grover chang

    A laker fan on the radio noted how all these guys are playing better this year. Said it showed BS was a bad coach.

  • HVJoy

    Ha! They are all “Charmin Soft” escapees from the ruthless Tank commander Scott.

    Hornets, Trail Blazers, Clippers and Pacers — wonder if any will be in the 2nd round of Playoffs.

  • thanks, now you may go back to your beauty sleep lol

  • That’s a problem with the rise of Lillard, DRose. Westbrook (got better) and Curry find the right balance between facilitating and scoring.

    Then we have Harden dominating the ball and ruining his team as we speak :[
    And still the Hornets doesn’t mind to follow the blueprint

  • @Ananth_Pandian The 2015-2016 Rockets can be summed up with just this play
    https://twitter.com/Ananth_Pandian/status/718267030777040902

  • vincent

    warriors are killing the spurs tonight. Spurs need to play better defense and slow down the pace of the game if they want to beat GSW. Spurs are too old to keep up with them physically

  • CJSHYY
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I like josh.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Sorry Nick Young.

  • TTNN

    He is only 3 min away from last year’s total mins, and there are still 4 games to go. Well, HOU don’t have other means but rely on Harden.

    I’d like to see Morey got fired

  • DaBoss

    Psalm – thank you for the well thought out and clear explanations/examples of what makes Jeremy a true PG – great post and much appreciated!

  • John Focker

    The Hornets are in a bind, they look stupid either way, as it is:
    a) The Rox model is failing, but we’re already too deeply committed so let’s just stick to it anyways, or
    b) The Rox model is failing, but we’re not the Rox so who knows maybe it’ll work better for us.

  • you’re welcome 🙂 You @DaBoss:disqus

    Maybe some of us can do more dissection and game analysis as we have good games in the playoff!

  • John Focker

    BS and the word coach shouldn’t even be in the same sentence together, guy’s a disgrace to the sport.

  • rookie75094

    Once the rockettes are eliminated from the playoffs. ..we should post the hornet’s “clinched” pic and a rockettes “fail” pic with harden,Howard and beverly in cf to “utterly humiliate” that “number is clear” guy… hahaha

  • DaBoss

    I’ve been on the radio with ESPN 710 and KLAC 570 here in LA after their terrible loss to Utah. Let them know what we knew since last year – that he was a terrible coach, bad choice for Lakers, and needed to be fired ASAP. He is out of touch with the players, especially the young guys. Too old school and doesn’t know how or just refuses to develop players. BS made comments how it was unprofessional and unacceptable for players to not compete and lose by 48 points. I said BS needed to look in the mirror and apply those comments to himself before throwing his players under the bus.

  • JoeTeam

    I will take me a week to recover …

  • JoeTeam

    We had el nino this year in NorCal.

  • sws94

    The big game is Sunday at home. Either GSW wins and that gives them a good chance to break the record and they spoil Spurs home-win undefeated record, or Spurs win and keep the undefeated record and best GSW could do is tie the Bulls record.

  • JoeTeam

    that’s going to be an amazing game, if GSW win Sat. Back to back, pops knows that. Hope GSW beats mem early to rest starters, then the game of the decade!

  • jimmyL

    He’s probably making fun og Lin

  • jimmyL

    They can’t beat the warriors Need 5 Khawi Leonard
    outside of Leonard and LMA the rest too told or just too trash

  • jimmyL

    also 28.6 ppg 7.5apg 6.3 rpg
    as great as Harden is, the rest of the team is too trash for them to play well
    He needs help the rox shouldve kept Lin, Asik and Parsons

  • zxcvb

    Brett Brown angry at the Hinkie firing. Sounds like he’s gone too.
    https://twitter.com/sjnard/status/718123552617193473
    Enter MDA…

  • jimmyL

    Why so much hate for the Rockets?
    It’s only the clutch fans that was really bad
    the owner loved Lin

  • sws94

    He’s not a 2-way player, his effort is at times questionable. He played better with Lin. Lin injected that team with an energy they don’t have now. I watched the 21 point playoff game and some other Lin game highlights with Houston and Lin was just full of great energy. Beverley has energy, but it’s more tough-guy stuff and he’s not strong offensively.

  • wandertheglobe
  • cdblue10

    You weren’t a LIn fan of you didn’t know the history between the rockets and Lin

  • Joe what do you know

    I suggest replacing Bev with Morey. Bev was at least friendly to Lin when he was a Rocket. It was really the FO that failed Lin

  • JoeTeam

    ok,

    Jazz: Clippers, Denver, Dallas, Lakers 39-39
    Rox: LAL, Min, Sac 38 – 41
    Dallas: Mem, Clippers, Jazz, SAS 40 – 38

    Dallas wins 2, they are guaranteed in. Let’s say they do. D vs H = 2:2 this season, so tie gets complicated.

    Jazz then are key to kicking HOU out. H vs U = 2:2
    They need to win 3 of 4 to kick Hou out. If Hou only wins 2, UTA going 2-2 kicks Hou out!

    Let’s go Utah. Beat LAL, DEN, and one more. Or, maybe HOU loses to Min, because Towns + Rubio shut Curry down.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, that’s a guy who know he’s gone.

  • cdblue10

    Sorry Brown…that’s it!!!

  • sws94

    The announcers especially Drexler, the head coach and Sampson, some of the media, their starting the narrative Lin’s defense was poor, not a good place for Lin. Disrespected Lin by putting Anthony’s poster up in a Houston uniform wearing Lin’s number without telling him.

  • Lam

    lol, everyone hates the Rockets. They have a selfish superstar who flops at every chance and aided by the refs. A GM who sees his role players as no more that statistical trading cards. And of course what they did to Lin.

  • sws94

    This could be a 13 page PDF. He’s a disgrace.

  • Lam

    And to add one more point, they are reportedly excruciating to watch. But I disagree because their defence are good for laughs.

  • Rick Johnson

    HoopMixtape ‏@HoopMixOnly Mar 16
    Harden: I’m the best all around basketball player in the NBA.
    Steph Curry:

    https://twitter.com/HoopMixOnly/status/710315219705323520

  • JoeTeam

    Jeremy: People are saying Kemba is a great PG.
    Steph:

  • CJSHYY

    Brown sounds mad… maybe he’s just worry about his own future…..

  • Rick Johnson

    Howard Beck: “I’m seeing, I’m feeling the return of Linsanity”

    Howard Beck and Ric Bucher’s Bold Predictions Entering the 2016 NBA Playoffs http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2631065-howard-beck-and-ric-buchers-bold-predictions-entering-the-2016-nba-playoffs?

  • heart

    That’s why BBrown needs to go too!

  • CJSHYY

    Love Howard Beck. 🙂

  • jimmyL

    You can’t be super selfish and average 7.5assists per game
    It’s GMs job to trade players and all that to improve the team
    Even AI has been traded, only a very few players are not trading cards

  • heart

    Let’s pray for Linsanity 2.0 in the playoffs!

  • jimmyL

    Coaches didnt think he was their No.1 guy because they got Harden. The media got worse because so many people bugged them on twitter and everything Morey didnt like Lin though

  • jimmyL

    I do, Morey didnt like Lin

  • CJSHYY

    I really hope they can make it to Eastern Final.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think he will leave by himself.

  • sws94

    That wasn’t my problem with them. Harden is the number 1 guy. My problem with them was badmouthing him for no reason. McHale too often would say stupid things about Lin but didn’t balance it when Lin played great. Guys like Drexler would say Lin doesn’t look like he should be as fast as Wall. That’s an unacceptable statement. What does that mean? Lin looks fast, Wall looks fast. And so on and so on. There was just an ugly atmosphere, in my opinion, on that team and in that organization and I’m glad he left. Things weren’t great in LA either but that was more due to the coach and the way Kobe tends to get after awhile with most of his teammates. That’s one of the reason I don’t complain about Charlotte. It’s paradise compared to his last 2 destinations.

  • sws94

    I’m not sure Morey is into liking or disliking players. He sees them as pieces to move around.

  • blueCypher

    I hope so. Ill see how his minutes are after 1st playoff game

  • sws94

    I hope they get past the first round or deep into it. That would be an accomplishment. I just don’t think they are as good or as well coached as Atlanta, Miami and Boston, the teams they are likely to play to get all the way to playing the Cavs.

  • Dan Ang

    Wow, a co-sign from Howard Beck. Has Bleacher Report finally turn the corner on Jeremy Lin?

  • CJSHYY

    They deep they go they better for Lin in FA.

  • CJSHYY

    Howard Beck is in top position for BR & he’s a Lin supporter so….

  • Dan Ang

    Sure didn’t show it. Lin had a tenure there under his watch.
    From FO to coaches, announcers, reporters and fans…it’s like they resented Lin, but at the same time relied on him to play good basketball.

  • sws94

    Hope they go deep too. Just not sure they can. If Lin has big games, it’s great for him. More big games, the better. More games, more chances he can.

  • Dan Ang

    He sounds like a Rocket’s fan. Yep!

  • Dan Ang

    Now that Jeremy is not there, who are the fans booing now?

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I was very high on them but after watched vs Cav & Raptors … this team is not good. Just hope Lin can have great performance.

  • jimmyL

    Like any other GM

  • jimmyL

    resent is a strong word
    he was cheered at home

  • jimmyL

    He was treated like a role player sometimes they like u sometimes they dont
    In LA, he couldn’t stand up to Kobe and let him step all over him also they needed the pick

  • jimmyL

    and?

  • Dan Ang

    Noice!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How can’t you make fun of the guy go to playoff?

  • jimmyL

    I was a Rockets fan long before Lin became an NBA player
    I followed Yao Ming and the Rockets treated him with great respect and I will never forget that
    They are not a bad organization
    Lin might have had a bad experience there but that doesn’t make them evil or anything
    I thought Lin played well in Houston and that was one of the most talented teams
    The team just didnt think Lin was untradable so they dealt him, it happens sometimes

  • Dan Ang

    Also booed at home…in the playoff, at that. Crazy…i know. At least we agree about Les

  • Dan Ang

    I didn’t say the Rockets were evil. LOL…I said you are a Rockets fan and I am right and good for you!!!. Not sure you know who people feel about the Rockets on this site.

  • Guest

    Kemba can win ” Player benefits from the Most Improved Roster ” award, imo. Most Improved Roster that includes Jeremy Lin who is the X Factor of the Hornets.

  • sws94

    that looks really bad. He should take off tomorrow night, even if Batum can’t play.

  • yes, they should be able to take care of the Nets without him.
    Rest is #1 before playoff
    If not, something is seriously wrong with the Hornets

  • John Focker

    Bev’s a snake, an opportunist, and once starting he also became a fascist. Much much worse than CP25.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    My only comment to all these people is 天下烏鴉一般黑.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    For those who know more about Hawks, Celtics, Heats, which team(s) do you think Hornets may have trouble with and which team JLin can do better with his strengths. Can anyone do a little of analysis of these teams?

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • KL

    Sometimes the best way to rub it into your opponents’ faces is to do well and be happy.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Interesting! Didn’t read the content. Just what was put it here.
    https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/status/718372737706782720

  • grover chang

    Everyone with a rocket Jersey. But fit some reason Brewer and Terry get the bulk of the blame

  • FreeJLin

    Just born?haha!

  • donsmacau

    Philly is setting up Suns-east with the Colangelos and D’Antoni at helm
    http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2016/4/7/11383630/philly-is-setting-up-suns-east-with-the-colangelos-and-dantoni-at-helm
    “First the once-downtrodden Golden State Warriors built Suns-west to win an NBA championship…. Now it appears that the Philadelphia 76ers are building Suns-east to do it their own way.”

    “Now with Jerry, Bryan and Mike in place in Philly, we get to see what they can do next. Sure Mike is just the Assistant Head Coach to Brett Brown. But you know as well as I do that the Mike is not a “beta”. He’s an alpha. Just as Jerry is.”

  • Michael

    Lol at all these “superstars” who can’t get their team to the playoffs.

  • james brown

    depend on how coach think now!

  • james brown

    off an on coaurt, curry is so way way way away from the likes of harden and on a different planet from him!

  • james brown

    is it true that hinkie resigned to save his face before they fire him?

  • james brown

    no one to turn to now! of course he’s disappointed and fear of his position now!

  • james brown

    it was so clear to some of us here when coangelo and MDA entered the scene, but refused by those who seem lacking in fore sight and content themselves with what their eyes can see literally on a given time!

  • james brown

    fake friend..i think we call that kind of person a “user”?

  • james brown

    parson i the best of them all and should be their leader!

  • james brown

    les liked jlin, but being liked was not reflected on the way they treated a player…well we know who rockets player were part of jlin marginalization but other players remain friends with jlin..clutch fans is the worst!

  • CJSHYY

    Done for playoff… That’s great. Tyson had good game last night. Thank you Sun!!! LOL! Finally his team.

  • james brown

    what we can say at least, teams will have snakes and friends combined!

  • james brown

    well i understand the way one defended houston and some players there…he truly like that player unfortunately, he has not owned a personal forum to be truly talked about his greatness (except maybe klutchforum)

  • james brown

    good answer if you manage players as commodity and without respect..even he’s not their no 5 guy, one should consider how that player would react if they had sense of responsibility.. nobody wants to be treated as dirt, and they did it to jlin,and thats where disgust is coming from!

  • james brown

    compare to LA AND HOUSTON, hornets is a haven!

  • james brown

    tank commander is there so is the biggest ballhog fadeaway player! he was not a role player but a starter, but because he want to win and scott differs, he was unceremoniously been made a bench!

  • james brown

    maybe during yao’s term FO was not bad, but look at they are now. a fired coach trading tweets as against their player, and owner seems so angry that he doesn’t knowwhere to begin a rebuilt!

  • james brown

    i can see a player, a star player catered and protected by his team but still who wants to change team when an opportunity comes simply because he wants more..money!

  • cdblue10

    Philadelphia 76’ers announcer:At guard,6’3 from Harvard University #17 Jeeeeeeremyyyyyy LInnnnnnnn!!!!!!

  • Brent Yen

    Why 17? who is 7?

  • cdblue10

    Landry is 7,usually Lin will give away his number to a senior player on the team

  • Brent Yen

    Let’s trade Landry, shall we? LOL

  • cdblue10

    Veteran,a good voice in the locker room but who knows…

  • adele

    Feels like between h*** and purgatory to me.

  • Brent Yen

    Hornets may be the next team that enters the season with higher expectations but miss the playoff

  • cdblue10

    With half of their roster on the free agency,it’s like a rebuilding team next season

  • BobbyH

    Let it be. God has a plan, including the number thing…

  • Brent Yen

    LOLOL

  • Spot

    I’m sure he and Embiid will be one of the best duo NBA ever had.

    If D’Antoni is the coach, Gallinari could sign for Philadelphia.

  • cdblue10

    Wow,I didn’t realized that Gallo is D’Antoni’s priced player,that totally slipped on my mind,Gallo or Williams?hmnnn

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Ed Davis!

  • cdblue10

    He was already locked up for 3 years right?

  • new BKN game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g79-bkn-cha-game-thread/

    With 4 games left, the Hornets is currently at the 6th seed and 1.5 games behind the 3rd seed Atlanta Hawks. The Nets should be a winnable game but the absence of injured Nic Batum would certainly hurt the playoff preparation.

    – Jeremy Lin’s elbow bursitis may have impacted his shooting (2-9). He might be better off resting his swollen elbow but perhaps he would relish more chance playing together with Kemba to develop more chemistry before playoff starts

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s hope and pray JLin continue to hit his stride and carry the momentum to lead to big wins.
    http://i0.wp.com/www.jlinportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lin_LINE_LetsGo.jpg?resize=131%2C126

  • Brent Yen

    Woooohoooo

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    dunno the condition of his contract but it seems every player can be traded if a team wants him badly enough

  • lol

  • cdblue10

    True,76’ers has a lot of assets to deal with if they’re interested w/ a certain player

  • that’s very concerning but I guess they want All-Star, MIP recognition as a small market even when the Rockets model is on self-destruct mode

  • jimmyL

    I doubt it was for him
    CLutch fans are bad but rockets fan arent

  • jimmyL

    just his tone
    all those great players are missing the playoffs but he isnt is what hes trying to say

  • jimmyL

    I do, i think it’s blown out of portion

  • jimmyL

    They just catered to Harden
    FO wanted to trade Lin for sure though

  • jimmyL

    That happens all the time
    thats how role players are treated
    McHale did throw him under the bus a few times though

  • jimmyL

    Just because you are a starter doenst mean you are not a role player

  • JoeTeam

    v hard to read the tealeaves and build a track record on a forum, but yeah, that was a good call. Too many disparate opinions here. Yet, I don’t like to remind people “I said so on xyz date” because nobody does that i real life. Forums need some way to remind people what was said before, but then again, maybe it’s good this instant, no memory (Momento), thing.

  • John Focker

    The Spurs way is the right way, but sure let them try where others have failed, not complaining here. 🙂

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