Hornets Won in 2OT behind Kemba 52pts; JLin Played PG

The Hornets Won in 2OT behind a hot shooting Kemba (52pts) 124-119 vs Utah Jazz

  • JLin played great to orchestrate offense to find his teammates
  • He finished with 9pts/5asts/6rebs/1stl/1TO in 36min; shooting 4-6 FGM (1-1 3FGM)

Adi Joseph also talked to JLin on Saturday about his shooting struggles. He’s committed to shoot more and better with the more fluid shooting form. And he believes he hasn’t peaked yet. https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/689156633134546944

MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 42 vs OKC
  • cshot

    FIRST!

  • cshot

    SECOND

  • cshot

    and THIRD! lol ill stop spamming

  • DX

    3rd, why someone takes 2 places.

  • heart

    Don’t like what happened today. Game could have been won sooner if the ball is shared.

  • cshot

    not the only one. it sucked

  • blubell
  • Briiick

    The change Cliff called for is: KW gets the Point back from Batum, and shoots more !

  • blubell

    I wanted a W today but.. *sigh*

  • CJSHYY

    How come I feel Lin didn’t want to take the shot in OT? He really didn’t take any shot…

  • cali7

    Back to the 90s…

  • heart

    Lin had attempted 6 freaking shots in 36:30, while playing mostly defense to cover another ball hogger so he can get his own scoring??? You’re not a Backup for heaven’s sake. Please God let Lin lead his own team next season!!!!

  • I am The Jason

    Kemba deserves the game ball today. 52 pts is a huge accomplishment even though the game should have ended in the 1st OT if Kemba saw an open Lin under the basket by himself.

  • CJSHYY

    He will not have his own team but just hope he can be part of top 3 players.

  • Guest

    He only deserves it id the game ended w/o OT.

  • blubell
  • heart

    I don’t think Batum is happy either. He only got 10pts playing 47:26min.

  • Briiick

    Yeah it’s not worth it.

  • Briiick

    Hornets won’t offer him much higher than Kemba.

  • xeroid

    Lin knew his limits and didn’t force anything, his ankle still won’t be totally recovered until All Star break and rest.

  • Briiick

    Did you see Lin’s hair ? That told us that he was not allowed to do much in offense today.

  • heart

    The freaking Hornets media were promoting KW the whole time this game. Not even a word about Lin’s D. Sorry, I’m not happy for Lin!

  • Epie

    I think he’s also being careful and selective with his shots. He knows something’s little off and he’s working on it according to his interview. He’s giving all he can on D though.

  • Spot

    Kemba’s 52 will just give him an excuse to shoot more

    #ISOrnets #notgoingtoplayoff #escapefromCharlotte

  • Briiick

    The hair could signal that he was only given a very small role in offense.

  • I am The Jason

    They are trying to promote Kemba for the All Star game even though a “bench player” has the most votes on their team.

  • DX

    I am not happy with Lin’s stat. But Lin shows his hard working and team first spirit. And he will keep close the games. You want he get more PT, that’s what he is trying to do. For Lin, 1st team win, 2nd play time, 3rd own stat.

  • Acbc

    This game will be the death nail to the Hornets season. KW will hog the ball even more now and take the team on yet another long losing streak.

    There is a linear causality to this type of team dynamics that leads to more and more selfishness. That’s just how players will react. They’ll all start to look to stat pad their own in order to rise to the top of the pecking order. Bad coaching, and chemistry, bad team culture.

  • Briiick

    Then vote for Lin !

  • DX

    Batum will leave if keep play like this.

  • blubell
  • DX

    No postgame coach interview? couldn’t find the link.

  • blubell
  • heart

    Kam made 2 crucial inbound mistakes today. Didn’t he? I noticed that he didn’t pass much to Lin today.

  • DX

    thanks

  • blubell
  • heart

    I did. Thanks to your vote too.

  • Epie

    Never admits his mistakes. Bad coach.

  • rookie75094

    Kemba 52 points game is a blessing in disguise…it will make easier for the hornets to trade Jlin.

  • LinMad

    r we tanking?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW! I totally miss the game. Didn’t know that the game played so early my time:-) Well, guess I didn’t miss much by just reading what I’ve read on this thread.

  • LinMad

    Didn’t Michael Jordan say in his pep talk the other day that there are no superstars on this team? Why did Kemba shoot so much?

  • LinMad

    they want to keep Lin. He’s their only defender that actually works hard on defense.

  • JoeTeam

    he didn’t give up any shots … just when he got the ball, he was bailing them out or it wasn’t organized, so he got doubled. A couple of times, he was hit and no call.

  • blubell
  • heart

    I’m upset that he got either bailout shots or got trapped and the help didn’t come quickly enough so he had to give up the ball. He didn’t want to waste possessions like other teammates so he didn’t shoot. However, he didn’t get the ball early in the clock to create shots for himself only for others, SMH.

  • blubell
  • David Kim

    Ish smith 8-28 , 16assts, 16pts ,4 TO in 44mins.

    What would happen Lin is allowed to shoot 28 times? Lin would average 30pts.

    28shots and 16assts means ball was in smith’s hands most of time? Right?

    Lin should reunion with MDA next year.

  • Acbc

    Clifford and FO is trying to phase out Lin. Too bad for him, there’s no one who can defend like Lin.

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    this is true … I am always looking for box score chances for Lin, and you are right. Nobody moved so he had to give up the ball when had they moved, JLin was in control. You could tell he was in control of the game by the sliver of chances where he got the ball to MW, then LW on that wide open lane in regulation (where KW was fouled). If NBA does not see this talent in scouting, then it’s 2x, and then there is a loss of one of the top PGs in the game.

  • JoeTeam

    The difference between a KW boxscore fest and any for GSW:

    For GSW, the other teammates are involved, and they all celebrate. And it is in the flow of their winning game. And everyone is cheering so it’s hard not to be inspired by them as a team of men, no matter who you are.

  • LinMad

    This was Kemba’s night. His mom was there to cheer for him. I don’t think he planned on ISOing, it just happened. If anything, it’s coach’s mistake for not drawing more plays and getting others involved. But it worked out. There were a few things I didn’t like in this game that could have lost the game for us. Not just Kemba ISOing but like Frank inbounding.

  • tom

    If he was allowed 28shots a game
    hed score at least 36

  • Linzen

    This picture is kind of sad… Jeremy just standing at the corner… watching…

  • Briiick

    Hornets invested heavily into KW right before this
    season and they are caught in a dooming stock. The only thing they can
    do now is to pad his stats and make him look like a real one in order to
    sell to the clueless fans who aren’t keen enough to recognize the
    connection between a losing streak and KW’s defenseless volume shooting.

  • tom

    LOL Byron Scott

  • blubell
  • fatbob

    16 assists, wow. Too bad he can’t shoot

  • Linzen

    Colangelo, please just use your Jadi mind trick, or whatever, and get Cho to trade Smith for JLin straight up.

  • LinMad

    lol I kind of agree but a W is a W. I think Lin is happy for it.

  • LinMad

    I don’t think Hornets FO wants Kemba to ISO. Even MJ said that their are no superstars on this team and that we have to play like a team. However, coach Cliff is not very good at playing team ball or managing Kemba.

  • CJSHYY

    I think probably for last push for ASG.

  • DX

    Just notice, PJ 19 min. 0 pts.

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t think it’s for Lin otherwise he would not let Lin close the game today.

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t think it’s about Lin otherwise Cliff would not let Lin closed the game today.

  • Acbc

    How many games did Kemba ISO lose before this one???? The fans that say we should give Kemba credit just don’t get it. If a player needs a sample size of a dozen games to win a couple of games by his heroball, then it is not a good thing when he has one great game. Kemba is killing the team for constantly trying to be the hero by repeatedly shooting his team in the foot.

    It’s not that we don’t want to give him credit, it’s because he is having a great game only once in 5.

  • JoeTeam

    I tend to sense it’s less odds than 20%.

  • blubell

    You just described Linsanity 🙂

  • blubell

    Hmmm. No wonder why he doesn’t pass to JLin. lol
    https://twitter.com/FSKPart3/status/689224670416076800

  • DX

    Dad? what this mean? Blood relationship?

  • Acbc

    We need 1mtoldman to help us on this. Where are you? We need your input!

  • JoeTeam

    “Son, show some pride in your dad.” Frank Kaminsky II
    “Ditto” Frank Kaminsky Jr.
    “Dittwo.” Frank Kaminsky Sr.

  • JoeTeam

    I get to see it on GSW, lol. I go back to that pic of JLin and Steph having a beer in season 1 of Rox.

  • heart

    Post game Cliff: Kept talking about caring defense more to get offense. ‘We care about offense too much.’ Really? Sounding like BS!

  • JoeTeam

    Is he trying to gently focus the press on Lin’s great game? … hmmm … nah, can’t be.

  • Lin played well within the system when I watched the first 3 quarters. Nothing new to add, Lin’s D was terrific and shooting 4-6 isn’t too bad either. Didn’t catch the 4th and overtime but I do agree with a lot of you that Kemba is playing way too much hero ball. He seemed to have lost believe in his team mates because of the loses of late and this is not good for the team and especially for Lin. If this continue things can get ugly, hopefully Cliff can keep Kemba in check, but I have my doubts.

    My new article on Lin. It may get worst before they get better. Thanks for your supports as always and hope you all enjoy :D.
    http://jhaposts.com/2016/01/18/it-may-get-worst-before-it-gets-better/

  • CJSHYY

    My Dad?! smh! So it’s about ASG today. smh!

  • sws94

    Isn’t his mom usually at his games?

  • JoeTeam

    Hey J Ha, I think his shot is not consistent because his role is not consistent and he cannot ge tin rhythm. 4Q and 2OTs today for example. He only got touches on bailouts, and you can’t do much with that. It was amazing how it calmed it down and may some key plays when he got the touches. One time he was hit on a successful blow-by, and he had to bail out but nobody moved open for him to reset. This is a hard season to track his shot progress. The one 3 he had, have a look at how beautiful it was. Almost blew out the ceiling lights, jk.

  • sws94

    He was hot. When Lin was in with him at first he was looking for Kemba to take shots as well. Feeding the hot hand. He did force too many though and missed Lin for a game winning layup.

  • sws94

    He did before the game.

  • blubell

    I wouldn’t take it seriously. Kaminsky is just joking.

  • Arsenium12 .

    When Kemba has taken 20 or more shots this year (before today), the Hornets have won 3 games and lost 5.

    See graphic below, from basketball-reference.com. Click to enlarge.
    __________

  • MoominFloren

    Didn’t watch the game, so what’s the change that the coach mentioned last game? Kemba will take all the shots? Lin only allowed to shoot 6 times in this game?!? I thought MJ said we gotta play teamball couple days ago…..

  • TTNN

    might be some kind of rookie hazing. Remember last year rookie was asked to call certain player certain name. Looks like Kemba is the one who trick Kaminsky a lot. He made Kaminsky to hold the Lin sign from Jeremy Lin Garden in China.

  • Fevers End

    I hope Lin breaks Kemba’s record during the last game of the season. I don’t blame Kemba for wanting to score more because his parents was there, but I will blame him for almost costing them the game several times.

  • sws94

    He took 6 shots because that’s how many he thought the defense gave him tonight. I don’t think the coaching staff has limited how many shots he can take.

  • Nope I don’t recall Kemba being out hurt. It was Batum with the toe injury. Lin’s shot over the course of the season has been inconsistent. Today he shot well. But in general this season he is yet to find his shot. He needs to hit those open looks regardless of his role imo, last year with the Lakers his role was even more inconsistent and he shot a career best % from 3pt range. Not every player has the luxury to get themselves into rhythm but I understand where you’re coming from Joe. We just want him to shoot well and play well and be appreciated by his team :D.

  • jolno

    This game is a perfect example of a horrible process producing a good result (win). If there were other alternative universes and this game was played close to infinite many times, the Hornets would likely lose more often than not. In fact, the Hornets have only won 33.3% of their games since Kemba joined the team (not counting this season). Just because someone could potentially win a lottery does not make buying lottery tickets for a living a good strategy. Well, the end of the season (or even trading deadline) couldn’t come soon enough for Lin to finally escape from yet another ISO happy team.

  • grover chang

    Frank is starting to feel like a Chandler parson. He enjoys the fame. He is on NBA radio year one show where they follow a rookie. He is active on social media and talked about Lin. He learned fast if you mention Lin your post gets a lot of attention. But he sounded a little resentful to me on how famous Lin is. He did say Lin is a wonderful teammate.

    Frank maybe jealous of Lin. But at least Parson knew how to use Lin to make him look good on the court. Parson has not been the same in Dallas, even with a good pg like D Will.

  • CJSHYY

    NO, he needs to please Kemba bc he will stay w this team. Make your star teammate happy it’s part of NBA culture.

  • tom

    It was Kemba show even Batum didnt take too many

  • blubell

    He is also young.

  • CJSHYY

    He’s another CP. smh!

  • tom

    disgusting calling another man their dad

  • kauaiblue

    Agreed. It is also boring to watch. I dont even watch the games anymore. That wouldve been unthinkable 2 years ago!

  • tom

    250 ish?

  • aras

    so i just came back from work to see lin only shot 6 times…in 36 minutes. now i have not seen the game but can someone give an unbiased analysis of how he played.

  • kauaiblue

    Wierd.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Why all the final inbound plays were done by Kaminsky who’s not a good passer? And Lin wasn’t any part of them? 2 were forced to call timeout, 1 was turnover, 1 was saved by Lin (almost turnover). Clifford is an overrated head coach.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Be polite when you ask someone to give you a report.

  • BobbyH

    It tool 2 OT to win over the lowly Jazz with Walkers shoot out of the light at Home court.

    Just imagine for the coming road games would be like. It is going to be long and ugly and heavy iso. 6 road games and 1 home games in the remaining January. Good luck with hero ball.

  • kauaiblue

    He doesn’t have to plan for isoing. it’s engrained, he doesn’t have to even think about… and the coaches allow it… fk this team…

  • CJSHYY

    It’s so weird. Why Jazz didn’t double team on Kemba? They just let him took the shots as he wish….If it’s Lin they would do it in 2nd half?

  • sws94

    So? Lin has taken a bunch of shots in some games and Batum even more. It was Kemba’s show as you said but thinking that Batum or Lin has limited shots sounds strange to me.

  • blubell
  • aras

    what did i say that was not friendly? all i asked was an analysis of Lin without namecalling any other players. sorry if you took it the wrong way.

    Edit: So how did he do?

  • sws94

    There was a 4th quarter defensive collapse and offensive lack of execution. They were well ahead and gave up the lead. The the two OTs were tough. Guys were running out of gas.

  • Hope

    Kw was smart in 2nd ot to let lin run the point in last few critical possession while they’re leading by 2. Or else

  • Epie

    Clifford said he’s training Kaminsky and he’s the best option he has.

  • Ben Johnson

    The Jazz are a pathetic 6-14 on the road, a 30% winning percentage…Hornets played like Garbage tonight and got lucky in spite of Kemba’s chucking

  • BobbyH

    Yes, or else.

  • sws94

    I don’t know about unbiased but Lin looked to set up hot players and really made it a mission to play tough D. Again he was put on someone way taller in Hood but he held his own. He did really well cooling off Hayward who wasn’t missing in the first half.

    Lin didn’t shoot much and didn’t always look steady on his feet. He also didn’t have his usual speed. But he played point with the 2nd unit and had Batum with him. Batum wasn’t good, lots of bad passes. Lin’s passing was better, he looked to set up Kaminsky who was scoring.

    Lin didn’t play too much in the first half but 3 or 4 minutes of the 3rd then all of the 4th and 2 OTs. He made huge hustle plays and facilitated a pass to Cody leading into 2 FTs that mattered. But it was those hustle plays that kept the team in the game especially when Batum fumbled an imbounds pass and Lin tracked it down and got a pass off to Kemba by the sidelines when he was double-teamed. I think it was a game-saving play.

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe it’s coach’s idea not KW. But I am glad they finally won bc I don’t want to see another OT.

  • John Focker

    Translation: someone had money on the Jazz. 😉

  • aras

    Thanks for the analysis sws great stuff. was he injured? was it the ankle because i saw that he was 4/6 why the heck would you just stop shooting ? was he passive on the offensive?

  • Spot

    If this will happen everybody will be happy. With Bryan Colangelo GM and MDA coach, obviously.

  • Ben Johnson

    I’m praying for it pal…Ish given the green light to jack up 28 shots today, imagine what JLin would do with such freedom?

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. I didn’t get why… same mistake again & again but Cliff seemed to be OK?!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    PFV’s comment

  • sws94

    He can play on his ankle, he can move. But he doesn’t accelerate fast as usual, doesn’t change direction as well, and his top speed isn’t as fast. He wasn’t really passive on offense, he was more on the weak side and didn’t get that many touches. Most of his touches, something good happened. He didn’t shoot a lot because Utah tended to swarm him.

  • Linzen

    Still haven’t watched the game…
    But Jeremy, why did you shoot only 6 times? 6 times in 36 mins???
    I thought you want to shoot better and shoot more? 🙁

  • aras

    thanks for the info! good to see Lin had a good game overall.

  • blubell
  • Epie

    Ok, let me rephrase for you then, “Key” mistakes. Thought you would know since you follow all threads.

  • BobbyH

    Ball was not in his hand most of the time. Even so, the defense closed in and the Jazz bigs were waiting.

  • sws94

    He said it was an indictment on him that the team hasn’t improved. That’s taking responsibility.

  • JoeTeam

    He was gassed, and yep maybe Cliff yelled over give it to Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    lol, perdition vs prediction might be a freudian slip.

  • Linzen

    When someone else shoots 34 times… yeah it is hard to get the ball… sigh.

  • LAJane

    what impolite?

  • JoeTeam

    more than what sw said below, he could have scored more but:
    1 pass from Batum to a wide open JLin cut … Batum threw it out of bounds. Announcers called it a v bad pass.

    The other you see in this thread – wide open Lin under the basket for the win with no pass from KW.

    On one play, he blew by defender and got hit hard, so he pulled out and tried to reset, but nobody moved to him and he was trapped for about 5+ seconds there they had to call a TO. That could have been another 3 at the rim, no ref.

    It was that kind of 4Q and 2OTs. He just didn’t get the ball much.

  • JoeTeam

    It wasn’t even like people gave him the ball to shoot. He would just hold it and hold it until he had a shot. People saying he played great … now many people on this thread have played with a guy like that and just wanted to throw up your hands and walk off the court? I raise my hand.

  • Linzen

    You know. Part of me really want Lin to force some shots. Just chuck some threes.
    But then that’s not the JLin I know and admire…

  • blubell

    Haha. Good catch but he might be right in this context.

  • Pete Roces

    Just watch how ugly Cleveland plays with ISO LBJ heroballing 90% of the time and compare them to GSW and Spurs. Which one is worth watching? Basketball is a team sport, its not an individual sport!

  • JoeTeam

    that’s why it was so good. Maybe the right social response is:

    I see what you did there.

  • JoeTeam

    Ha! That’s my treadmill plan!

  • grover chang

    “I have a dream that one day… little black boys and little black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.” MLK

  • Linzen

    two hands way UP!

  • JoeTeam

    me too. me too and just waiting for the next season yet again.

    The thing about Lin is, he can get zero to 10 pts so fast, … this season the Kemba-hog ball is what’s stopping him. Last year, Kobe was not on the court all the time.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Jeremy played the fifth most minutes. Four starters played over 40+ minutes and then Jeremy is next with 37 minutes.
    Five assists with just 1 TO but he made also 1 steal to compensate for the lost possession.,
    Jeremy has also collected 6 rebounds in the game.
    Jeremy’s development as a player excels. Think of what he can do when he’s the top choice in the team. His stats will be off the chart.

    Honestly Lin is a very important player for this team. Plus, the bench only scored 29 points for this game out of 124 points. You gotta be kidding!

    Harrison didn’t play to my disappointment. Troy Daniels only played 14 minutes! Roberts none. The Hornets needs help in the back court badly because Jeremy Lin can only play PG or SG but not both on the court. The team needs another SG that can shoot the ball or another PG who can run plays efficiently, that is not Roberts.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Hero ball!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    No mention of the Asian boys.

  • rookie75094

    The jazz knew kemba never gonna pass that’s why they let Jlin run free…smh

  • grover chang

    I took out the part of the quote that said this was kids in Alabama. Don’t think there was any Asian’s in Alabama back then. But I get your gist.

  • rookie75094

    Sooo…Asians are also being discriminated by white and blacks?….hmmm

  • DX

    I will watch how can 1 vs 5.

  • DX

    Good thinking, but never going to happen.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Could you see the improvement of Jeremy Lin as a basketball player? If you let him play like in the days in NY, Lin will flourish again as the top NBA PG. He can now break the offense with or without the ball.
    New Hairsanity Mix

    Old Linsanity Mix

  • sws94

    This was around 1968 USA. It was a different world then. Asians weren’t even referred to as Asian then. MLK was talking about specific wrongs against a specific group of people but his vision was getting broader. He called Vietnamese brown people and was against the war for example.

  • blubell
  • grover chang

    Sometimes I feel the focus on MLK day is too African American because he was African American. Which misses the point and minimizes how great MLK was.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Unbiased?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You already preempted attacking and given warning to people when you want a favor from them, that’s not cool.

  • LinMad

    umm this is from the last game not today’s..

  • Acbc

    Lin’s injury to his ankle has slowed him down. Speed muscles create quickness.

    The ankles are like the wrists in that way. If you can’t use the ankles to the maximum range of motiion, your not going to be able to create speed.

    Lin’s so good that even on a bad ankle, he’s better than everyone else on defence.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    So…..this game is about two things: a win in double OT against the “mighty” (read: this is sarcasm) Jazz and Kemba’s volume shooting?

    I’d rather watch the the JLin highlights.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Let’s compare Batum vs Lin; unfairly, of course!
    Lin 37 minutes 5 assists 1 steal 1 TO 6 rebounds 9 points 4-6 and 1-1 3P
    Batum 47 minutes 4 assists 1 steal 5 TOs 9 rebounds 10 points 4-12 and 2-5 3P
    Lin is absolutely a steal paid less than Roberts sitting at the bench.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Your report is bias, Lin played 37 min but scored only 9 pts, that’s bad for a SG.

    (Sarcasm). Who set the standard of biased or unbiased?

  • MoominFloren

    Or can we trade the coach? Clifford + Ewing for MDA = Linsanity 2.0

  • Briiick

    Didn’t you notice his hair style which contained all info about shot allowance.

  • LinMad

    There was this one play I really liked about Lin when he guarded 3 different players (2 at perimeter and 1 inside) while everyone else was inside watching. Lin puts a lot of effort into defense. That play he guarded both the left and right side of the court. If the other players put more effort into D like Lin does, maybe Lin can attack the basket more.

  • LinMad

    I think everyone knows Lin at $2M is a steal. It’s borderline discrimination. Coaches brought his value down by utilizing him wrong and putting scrubs in front of him.

  • donsmacau

    Every game as the quarters progress you can see JLIN’s motion affected by the ankle.

    The ankle affects his shot too – the longer the shot the more force needed to generate the distance/arc, power generated from the legs; legs need ankles for lift — so makes sense the 3pt shots affected severely.

    Tonight he played 37 minutes he will need all the time he can get to recover and try to rehab the ankle.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Playing like the starter minutes.

  • LinMad

    I think Hornets fans want Lin to tweet about voting Kemba to all star game. Batum and Frank already did. Do you think Lin should?

    Tbh, I don’t think it will help Kemba. It’s too late. Also, ASG is for fan favorites not just for players with good stats.

  • DX

    Cliff is taking advantage from Lin. Don’t worry it will make them pay.

  • sport

    When I saw the headline I knew Walker must’ve played 40+ minutes and chucked many shots. 16 out of 34 shots! That is crazy and exactly why they went into Double OT against a low team like the Jazz. Hornets trying hard to promote Walker as a fake star. I hope no one’s dumb enough to buy into it.

  • sport

    If you want to talk about unfair, Walker played 46 minutes shot 16 out of 34 times which is way he got 50+ points! If Lin was allowed those minutes he’d be hitting 70 points already!

  • donsmacau

    Batum seeks a Max deal from the Hornets and rookie Frank probably wants to stay in Charlotte.

    Hornets know that JLIN will opt-out of his contract and JLIN knows that too – moreover JLIN plays with Kemba every day and integrity states that Kemba’s not All-star calibre in deed or popularity.

    See no problem with JLIN not tweeting something he thinks isn’t cognitively honest. Plus no downside to not tweeting, he won’t be a Hornet next season.

  • DX

    Don’t worry. Kemba has been promoted many years not just now.

  • Barry Allen

    By now Kemba should be used to coming up short.

  • MorlockO

    15 free throws! harden like

  • Briiick

    This is like an institute stuck in a doomed IPO tries to hype it and sell to the little ones.

  • donsmacau

    When you demand the ball like Harden and Kemba, then you are the one who gets fouled and goes to the line.

  • Barry Allen

    By now Kemba should be used to coming up short…

  • Hope

    Maybe cliff will let lin run the pg last 5 minutes in 4q from now on.

  • Barry Allen

    We can only Hope.

  • sport

    Without the green light to take shots nor handle the ball as PG.

  • @blubel posted this before the game. I included it in the article above.

    Adi Joseph also talked to JLin on Saturday about his shooting struggles. He’s committed to shoot more and better with the more fluid shooting form. And he believes he hasn’t peaked yet.

    https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/689156633134546944

  • donsmacau

    When Cliff gave JLIN”s minutes to Troy Daniels in the first half – I thought Clifford has finally lost his mind but Cliff reverted to his senses to still have JLIN close out the games.

    Had he allowed Daniels to close out the game with his (lack of) Bball IQ, this would have been a loss.

  • heart

    They still want coaches to vote him in.

  • Hope

    See mj in the back slouching.

  • today was 4/6, 1/1 3pt, so pretty good. but yeah, he needs to shoot well with consistency. i believe he can do it, but it’ll take a little time.

  • heart

    It’s over the fence not on the border.

  • yes, the ankle injuries kinda messed up a bit with his shooting consistency
    I believe he was shooting well before the Lakers game that he injured his right ankle

  • JoeTeam

    I watched it … if they had inbounded to JLin or attempted to move the ball around, maybe 8 of those FTs go to Lin and others. Mainly Lin because I remember a few times KW kept the ball to get the end-game foul so he could increase his FTs. Once when Lin was next to him wide open.

  • sws94

    It’s the 1960s. A different time completely. And as I said, he expanded to include the Vietnamese. That’s going beyond African-Americans or Americans in general. He was still very young when he was assassinated and growing.

    From http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2014/01/martin_luther_king_jrs_opposit.html
    “For those who ask the question, “Aren’t you a civil rights leader?” and thereby mean to exclude me from the movement for peace, I have this further answer. In 1957 when a group of us formed the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, we chose as our motto: “To save the soul of America.” We were convinced that we could not limit our vision to certain rights for black people…”

  • JoeTeam

    Well. watching GSW lead CLE by over 20 pts is a mind cleansing thing, from the ugly iso ball of KW. The team spirit is so great, you think of LeBron being KW. So frustrated he shoved Curry to the floor and rightly got called for it. Mozkov diving on Curry’s knees, getting called. TThompson 4 fouls in 7 mins. Team ball rules.

  • LinMad

    well if he doesn’t tweet I hope Hornets FO doesn’t penalize him and make assumption that he’s not in it for the long run. I don’t remember Lin promoting any other NBA player for ASG in the past.

  • The ankle injury that JLin suffered in Lakers 12/28 game definitely affected JLin’s shooting and ability to finish his drives

    Check out his FG% and 3FG% in Dec and Jan:
    Dec: 45.2% FGM, 36.8% 3FGM
    Jan: 41.1% FGM, 23.5% 3FGM

    The ankle is still not 100% yet but he looked better on-court today

  • sws94

    I don’t know about the jump shot, maybe driving off of the legs, but it certainly limits his ability to cut and accelerate around defenders and gives him the speed to finish around the basket.

  • sws94

    Agreed. It probably won’t not get enough rest until the ASB. Hopefully after, he gets much of his speed and explosiveness back.

  • sport

    Of course, right now Lin’s trying to get his 3s and shooting like his best friend Steph Curry, less jumping, lower and quicker release point. That way he’d be harder to defend and make more shots! Hopefully by end of this season his new form will finally click in and be automatic!

  • sws94

    Read my first sentence. Didn’t claim it was unbiased.

  • LinMad

    Here’s an idea:
    Lin will tweet about voting Kemba into ASG only if Dell Curry ask Stephen Curry to train Lin on shooting 3s. WIN-WIN situation.

  • sport

    Pretty sure Steph already gave Lin advice during off season since they’re friends. And I don’t think Lin should help promote Kemba who doesn’t deserve to be in ASG with his volume shooting!

  • yup, his hard work will eventually payoff!
    Let’s hope there’s any playoff chance

  • LinMad

    ya some of the moves Lin made this season looks Curry-like

  • JoeTeam

    when JLin went to do the nae nae with Riley.

  • JoeTeam

    GSW CLE half 70-44. Was up 30 until they sort of faded last minute.

    If JLin were Delly, he still would not have to put up with as much ISO ball from LeBron. Yet you see how outclassed an unbalanced team is to a balanced team. We’re over analyzing the JLin situation. He’s just on an awfully coached team. The system is wrong for him. He’s never going to jack up shots, it’s just not him.

  • MJ gave a pat to the back of JLin’s head after the game.
    The GOAT definitely knew JLin’s contribution to secure the win, especially his smart play with Zeller resulting in 2 FTs to give 3pts lead (120-117). It won’t show up in the boxscore but JLin’s playmaking was crucial today

    Trey Burke scored 9 out of 11pts in the 2OT. Kemba’s missing D almost gave the game away.

  • MoominFloren

    Just check the game report from hornets.com, Lin is NOT included at all! A 2M guy who does all the dirty works not even worth to be mentioned once?!?!?!?

  • sport

    Lin should really learn about Curry’s practice/pregame routine for every game! All those crazy cross over moves and far away 3s looks like he’s showing off but he actually uses them in the game!

  • tom

    Nope he doesnt get included in anything anymore
    no lin in highlights

  • yes, OTOH we might expect Kemba to cool off post-ASB after playing so heavy min in the All-Star push.
    Similar to how Kyle Lowry cooled off last season post-ASB

  • Steppen03

    Glad JL7 had a good shooting and the team won. Let’s Go on a roll now!
    Let’s Go, Warriors – Beatdown the healthy Cavs.

  • sws94

    I think MJ likes Lin. I thought I saw MJ react to that pass, have to see the replay. He did react to something Lin did, I’m not sure which play specifically though.

    Kemba highly favors offense, not like Marv or Lin that give their all on both O and D.

  • sport

    Only 9 points in 37 minutes and only took 6 shots, not much to really talk about. Lin should really take it on himself to take more iso shots when teammates like Batum and Walker are chucking and hogging the ball! Not sure why he doesn’t do that when that happens!

  • donsmacau

    Kemba missing open men and his general sloppy play at crunch time almost gave the game away.

    Kemba’s own quote “”I’m a little upset actually. I made all the mistakes that kept these guys in the game.” tell’s much of the story.

  • tom

    Just another reason why he didnt take many shots
    Theres only one ball to go around when someones superhot other people dont take as many shots so yah Both Batum and Lin took a back seat tonight it is what it is

  • donsmacau

    MJ likes that JLIN can sell shoes and other Jordan paraphernalia in China and Asia. Not genuine.

  • sws94

    Game report? I looked at the highlights and the first highlight features Lin to Kaminsky for a little post move to an inside score by Kaminsky.

  • JoeTeam

    not really, Lin needed to be in the game else they would have lost. That in itself merits a line in any game report. It’s there on tape.

  • sws94

    I think maybe listen to PFV’s video. They don’t win this game without Lin. It’s not all scoring or anything on the box score. That’s why Lin played 2 OTs and was in there in the closing minutes. He mattered that much.

  • heart

    Observations:
    1) Near the end of every quarter and in 2 OTs, KW was the one who had most or all of the ball possessions each time to get foul calls for FTs. The guy was focused solely on offense to get his 50pts tonight.
    2) Cliff’s Post game claim is ALL TALK. He keeps allowing KW to focus on scoring yet while he keeps harping on defense to the media. Opposite of reality…
    3) Lin didn’t even crack a smile the whole time playing tonight. Playing w/o a single shot attempt for points in the crunch time or in 2OTs is cheap labor exploitation (to me)! It does not sit well w/me.

  • JoeTeam

    I wanted them to end the half 30 up.

  • sport

    Except in basketball most only care about whether you had high scoring and the point really is to make baskets.

  • JoeTeam

    whew, safe to list to PFV this time lol. Thanks.

  • donsmacau

    Nobody scored much nor took many shots. Look at the box scores of anyone not named Kemba Walker. When one man has the ball enough to score 50+ points, then nobody else had the ball in their hands.

  • JoeTeam

    I believe the term used on us is coolie. Dictionary says it’s a Hindi term for slave.

  • JoeTeam

    well true to the masses of people who watch bball on TV. For those who pay to go to games, mostly they get the flow of the game. TV is where the money comes in from, though.

  • JoeTeam

    16/34 … that means 18 turnovers by Brent math. (Trolling Brent! come out and play).

  • sport

    Playing with a volume shooting teammate can’t be fun. But instead of being mad, Lin should’ve just taken his own shots as well and forget about team ball when things like that happen every season! No one’s telling him to not shoot when allowing Walker to chuck shots!

  • donsmacau

    Walker was calling for the ball on EVERY play. If the man is hot (and Kemba always thinks he’s hot even if he’s cold) then you pass him the ball – Cliff way.

  • JoeTeam

    well. Even Cody drove in from the elbow once and that was a ball given by Lin. So yeah, I agree, take at least 5 more shots there.

  • sport

    True even Batum suffered but Williams and Kaminsky both made 19 and 17 points taking 8 and 12 shots each! The least Lin could’ve done is take his rightful 15 shot attempts!

  • Steppen03

    He does. JL7 did it, just not tonight. I prefer him to play in the flow of game and get a higher %fg. Maybe he’s still not 100% healthy.

  • sport

    No that’s why Lin should ignore teammates when that happens instead of always passing when they ask for the ball! He’s too nice and lenient that way! He has the right to not pass and look to score or pass to someone else!

  • sport

    JLin is Adidas not Nike so Lin isn’t selling any shoes for MJ’s Jordan brand! If JLin was part of Jordan brand you can bet he’d be show cased like Walker. Acquiring JLin was mainly for those pre-season games in China to promote Hornets especially when they started Lin for the 2nd game in China against Clippers but never planned to start him during regular season!

  • leeda harun

    I missed this game. still waiting for highlights

  • donsmacau

    Not sure Steve Clifford nor Kemba would look to highly on that sort of obstinance. Fast way to losing playing time imo.

  • leeda harun

    Wow 2 OT needed for this game

  • sport

    Lin’s one year rental, nothing to lose, and without Lin they will just keep losing with their iso ball (seriously). In fact Lin could’ve done the same thing last year since he had nothing to lose just shoot more and play whatever the way he wants and take his own shots!

  • occupatio

    the word is actually from chinese

  • donsmacau

    Good point, my bad — JLIN helps sell Charlotte Hornets merchandise then to fill MJ coffers.

  • leeda harun

    to do that… We need everyone to play team ball and stays healthy.

  • cdblue10

    Observation on this game:Get off from this team and opt out because this is not your home,come back to New York and reunite with MDA.tsk,tsk,tsk!!!

  • donsmacau

    Don’t see the usual defense of Kemba going on here that I would have normally expected from a Kemba led Win from the Kemba defenders.

    It was ugly and touch-and-go but I will acknowledge that a win-is-a-win and though I still don’t believe Kemba is “clutch” normally (and this season proves that point) cannot deny that he was integral in winning this game, that makes this game and the Lakers.

    This game was winnable until halfway through 3rd Q when the “you live by the Kemba turns to you die by the Kemba”

    Regardless, congrats to Kemba and the supporting cast who prevented a win from turning into another loss.

  • sport

    LOL No New York is never happening with Dolan and Melo still there. MDA and 76ers.

  • cdblue10

    Nets would be a possible destination.

  • JoeTeam

    that’s what my apple dictionary said. Is it cantonese? I’m not familiar with mandarin words for coolie.

  • donsmacau

    Most likely with Sixers and MDA but D’Antoni did have an interview I saw today or yesterday where he did not discount coaching for Brooklyn.

  • JoeTeam

    I can go with that, it’s something he has to be aware of. Anti-coolie moves.

  • @JLin7 celebrated 2OT Win with HS teammates #Paly

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/689272611474288641

  • JoeTeam

    GSW so much space they can run the same pnr no problem each time. I feel better watching team work.

  • cdblue10

    I still believe that Lin and MDA would reunite each other and MDA would be the lead coach not associate.

  • donsmacau

    Well even if it is the Sixers, despite the Brown extension the thought in Philly is that Brown only lasts 18 more months as Head Coach.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Don’t know where yet but not there in Charlotte.

  • cdblue10

    Game will be easier for him next year because his defense improves tremendously whether it is in Nets or somewhere else.PG Lin…the 4 players????

  • MoominFloren

    But Lamb was got mentioned even not playing a minute…..

  • Epie

    Maybe not shoes, but Lin is his marketing machine. MJ will probably get more value out of Lin that way than selling shoes.

  • leeda harun

    It is not that easy..nothing is certain.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The remained games for this month is ugly, not sure if they can even beat the Lakers with the way Kemba “the man” offense/zero D.

  • JoeTeam

    Warriors 16/33 on 3s, against the top team in the East. Look like Kemba’s best day?

  • NONONO

    What exactly Clifford made changes for today’s win?

  • sws94

    It’s not even competitive. Boring. Cleveland at home gets blown out.

  • Acbc

    I know, where’s our favorite one liner Brent! Lol

  • Let JLin orchestrate offense in both OT enough so Hornets can secure the win while Kemba’s man scored 9 out of 11 2OT pts.

    If Jazz can execute better (Hayward not stepping out-of-bound on fouled 3), this would’ve been a loss

    Here’s a good acknowledgement of JLin contribution in the AtTheHive game summary

    Jeremy Lin had a very nice stretch of offensive play toward the end of the game, including both overtimes.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    More Kemba and more Batum.

  • LAJane

    Hahaha….just about sliding off the chair 🙂 We’ll never know, but…I really wonder what thoughts slide through his brain. For sure he’s made a commitment to Kemba, and probably likes him because he seems to be a nice enough guy. But he’s got to shake his head sometimes, don’t you think? How could you avoid the inconvenient thought that you’re doubling down on a poor hand.

  • TTNN

    For both overtime, Kemba take 10 FGA of the total 15 FGA from the team. There are only 2 assist for the whole team in both OT, and both were from Lin.

    It is pretty much all Kemba.

  • TTNN

    苦力

  • LinMad

    we barely beat them last time around. It looks ugly when no one is playing defense and just trading buckets. Even today’s game, the team had horrible defense besides Lin. We’re not going to shut anyone down if majority of our players just focus on offense.

  • Maknusia

    lol…Etymologically its not conclusive…but most likely its an Indian word…anyways, whats for sure its an Asian word 😉

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/coolie
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coolie

  • sws94

    Houston vs. LA Clippers and Redick. Should be interesting.

  • sws94

    Redick with 9 already.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The improvement in Philly is obviously in offense more than defense. In the past, they weren’t able to score enough. Now they are blowing somebody out.

  • kauaiblue

    U got that right blue!

  • JoeTeam

    I see, thanks!

  • Hope

    He’s thinking, this guy has no vision to be the oh.

  • JoeTeam

    guess both … chinese always has good adaptations. may fav are the celeb names. they’re a hoot sometimes.

  • JoeTeam

    no way to go far with that

  • Maknusia

    exactly

  • JoeTeam

    4th was 2nd and deep bench practicing bricks no one had competing mindset. still, the ball moved to the open man, vs kw ball.

  • ra

    where is the highlights

  • tom

    Less Lin more starters

  • donsmacau

    Appears to me that Troy was given much of JLIN’s minutes in the first half by Clifford as the Major Change; as JLIN only had 10min or so and would have tracked whole game 20-22 min.
    Likely, the second half should have been similar but possibly was altered by Hornets losing a large lead, necessitating JLIN to play into the stretch as a close game you want more experience/brains (same for overtime of course). This is why JLIN ended up with 37 minutes.

  • jeremylin17

    im gonna be honest, but I actually think that lin was a better fit in Houston than in Charlotte. Despite being mistreated, Lin was able to play at the point and his teammates would set a lot more picks for him. Also the big men were much better.

  • grover chang

    Even the Lakers had better bigs. ED, Hill, Boozer. The Hornet bigs are soft like Charmin.

  • james brown

    well, that to say is like crying over a spilled milk..

    what he needs to do is to concentrate making himself better on all occassions/scenario so his game can come out blazing whenever it is needed in a way that it will be needed.

    mistreatment will never be better than freedom!

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin’s Rox game it’s a lot more fun to watch than Hornets. Right now his game or should I say Hornets it’s boring to watch… I really want this season to end ASAP. Even sometimes I wish they can make it to playoff. LOL!

  • grover chang

    Boring is right. I know I’m exaggerating, but it FEELs like Lin just plays defense, fights to get the ball, and then hands it over to Batum or Kemba.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! NO more fun games from him anymore since he didn’t play that much as a real PG. Not many news about him either… Just Boring.

  • jlinfan7

    its so frustrating but atleast hes not being mistreated. man even in houston Lin had more opportunities. Imagine that In HOUSTON playing alongside JAMES HARDEN

  • On other news, JJ Redick has hit 8-9 3s with 5 min left in the 3rd quarter vs Rockets which is his career high.
    NBA Record is 12

    https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/689313324547358720

  • CJSHYY

    That’s how I feel… I still remember how good Lin’s first game as a Lakers vs Clippers… that’s fun to watch… but not from Hornets. smh!

  • BTW Harden is guarding Redick

  • jlinfan7

    I feel like its almost worse for lin playing point guard on this team because his teammates don’t set picks for him. Lin needs to get some confidence like during Linsanity and call the plays when hes playing the point. Like waving people off and calling the big men to set some screens.

  • jlinfan7

    also when lin plays at the 2 he tends to shoot the ball a lot more for the most part.

  • Rockets had better big men to play PnR with JLin.
    So it suits JLin’s strength more.

    Lin can’t do many PnR with hapless big men in the Hornets so it limits his game.
    But he shows his versatility in defense, orchestrating offense enough
    He definitely gives more open space for Kemba to operate.

    But Clifford gave him more credit than McHale ever did so it might help him more next season to get more offers.
    And Kemba didn’t hate or be jealous of Lin like Harden did (throwing chair incident in 1 playoff game)

    So there are pros and cons.

  • zxcvb

    Lin played great all-around…just got frozen out more than usual. Part of that was Kemba having a career scoring game, but frankly, the Hornets still have the same problems as before. The poor record will continue unless Lin is more involved.

    When your “star” gets 52 pts and you barely win…something is wrong. It shouldn’t take 2 OT to beat the Jazz at home. Kemba doesn’t create offense, he absorbs it. Other guys go cold as he hogs and doesn’t get back on defense. The team always plays best when the ball is moving and Lin is distributing.

    Fool’s gold win tonight, but Lin looked like his ankle was no longer bothering him much. So that’s good. Still hoping for a trade to Philly or Brooklyn, though. It’s boring watching Lin do all the dirty work and get no shots even when he’s hot.

  • CJSHYY

    I think today was set up for Kemba to get good stats for last push to ASG. He got hot so he just ISO even more than usual…smh!

  • adele

    Lin can probably do that also with Harden guarding him.

  • adele

    True but Mchale is just a bully as a coach and Morey is a deceiving GM. Still not a good environment for Lin with Harden as a team mate even if Mchale is not around anymore.

  • chaelsonnen

    im not going to say I’ve lost faith in Lin because I haven’t. Being Asian American I am very proud of everything that he has accomplished. What I will say though is that I am starting to lose faith in the NBA. It seems like the same thing happens every year, Lin will be traded to another team and will be the team’s best offensive option, but the coach cannot let Linsanity happen and decides to give the reigns to some substandard point guard (Ronnie Price, Kemba Walker, Pat Beverley).

    Also I’ve lost faith in the refs in the NBA because JLin draws so much contact and barely gets any whistle calls. The only way I see things going well for JLin are if he reunites with MDA. I am praying this happens or that I am wrong and another coach will finally recognize Lin’s talents

  • zxcvb

    It’s so pathetic watching teams campaign for All-Star votes. Everyone is doing it now. Kemba won’t come close either way. Ironically, the only Hornet who could ever be elected is Lin. Give him 34mpg and 15 FGA and he’s an instant starter with his global popularity.

  • adele

    Maybe in the open, Cliffords words can have an impact to some franchise but his stats does not follow. It’s on the average with the type of role Clifford gave him. Im not sure if Clifford’s statements will convert into a big fat contract next year.

  • It’s hard to see Lin being used as Tony Allen in this team, although it shows off his versatility

    I really hope JLin can be reunited with MDA, whether in 76ers or Nets or another team.
    They need each other to achieve their maximum potential in the NBA.

    I’m guessing next season since trade is less likely.
    Lin’s versatility means Kemba and Batum get better stats *sigh*

    Now I wonder who JLin thought he’d play PnR with in the Hornets last summer. The big men are so horrible to finish.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree & I think league also knows about it… these big number really means nothing to me now bc he’s the one who took all the shots & just like one man show…. Really pathetic in deed. smh!

  • adele

    FEELS like? Not just that! It’s what Lin has to do in this team.

  • at least JLin had record 9 3pters as a career high =)

  • adele

    Not mistreated? I think indirectly he is.

  • blubell

  • CJSHYY

    When Lance was in his contract year 2 years ago? He used to be the player who had the most tri double…. look at him now… all they need it’s the ball in their hand & chance…

  • adele

    Plus when you listen to the broadcasters in Hornets, it’s always Kemba this, Walker that. Co captain of the losing team…?

  • yess.. finally Jun Liu highlights =)
    thx!

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t hear anyone said Lin is good in D….I don’t like the idea for Lin to use on D purpose. In fact, hate it. smh!

  • james brown

    i think one good thing at a time for JLIN…this is the first time JLIN has chosen a team he likes and not because of a trade or the other team did not matched the offer…the order of battle right now after hornets is to make sure that all negotiations that is made verbally should be part and parcel of the contract.

    if MDA wants him and Jlin wants to reunite with the coach, then we will see something better for JLIN .He is Better now as a player than his NYK days!

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t listen to Hornets feed for a long time bc they are too fake to me. LOL! Plus I want to know what the other teams really think about Lin now.

  • adele

    Hope the Brooklyn Nets will look into the MDA-Lin reunion. Please make it happen. I promise I will watch every actual game.

  • adele

    We need to have a strong force and energy in our mind flow. Who knows? These thoughts will reach into the FO of the Nets decision makers.

  • I expect post-ASB JLin’s stats will be better when he’s 100% healthy like he always did.

    In this team riddled with injuries, Lin will get more opportunities.
    Kemba and Batum will slow down after so many 40+ min games

  • John Focker

    I posted something short on udn.com to shut a hater up (yes, they exist aplenty in Taiwan), and saw someone respond with a link to a nice Taiwanese Lin fan site http://www.isay.tw. It is in blog format and very well written, not just on analyzing the games, but also what happens in the league in terms of historical background and behind the scenes look. So if you can read Chinese this is a must-check-out site.

    The post-game piece written proposed a very interesting theory: that the Hornets are shopping Gordon Hayward and wanted to showcase Kemba for a trade scenario after Hayward (and maybe throw in Batum for Alec Burks + Favors if lucky). The piece gave some background on how CHA is stuck on Al’s contract and subsequently Kemba’s, and gave example of Corey Brewer scoring 51 pts on Harden (which landed him the Rox job) and Mo Williams’ 52 point game (which got him to CHA).

    The theory does indeed hold more water than CHA pushing Kemba for all Star, seeing how there’s very little time left for voting and Kemba’s not even in top ten. Additionally, the piece mentioned how MJ’s facial expression is not of someone who’s impressed. If you and I here could tell that the game should’ve been won during regulation (or at the very least in the first OT), surely MJ can see it on court.

    There’s still one month left and things may get very interesting. Will keep fingers crossed on the Kemba trade.

  • CJSHYY

    I sure hope so but MKG maybe will be back after that too…. not sure how many min Lin can get when MKG back?

  • Maknusia

    hmmm interesting… and here is a quote from NBA report

    A few minutes into the game, Hornets forward Marvin Williams had an inkling Walker was on the verge of something big.

    “Marvin told me, `You’re going to get a 50 ball tonight,”‘ Walker said. “I didn’t pay no attention actually until he told me again after the game. He was right. He called it.”

    Walker made 16 of 34 shots from the field, including 6 of 11 3-pointers. He was 14 of 15 on free throws in
    breaking the team mark of 48 points set by Glen Rice on March 6, 1997, in an overtime win against Boston.

    “I just tried to make the best plays possible. When I had my shot, I tried to be aggressive, take them and make them,” he said.

    Walker’s previous career best was 42 points, set in a Dec. 27, 2014, loss to Orlando.

    Walkerscored 18 points in the first quarter, hitting three 3s. His foul shooting in the finals of double overtime helped seal the win.

  • MoominFloren

    I follow the isay site since last year, the host wrote many good pieces indeed

  • MoominFloren

    Yea I hated Hill’s standing jumper and weak defense last year…… but now I realize Hill >>>>> any hornets bigs

  • adele

    True. Plus if they won’t make it in the play offs, they might decide to tank to get picks.

  • adele

    Yes and will get the same contract as Reddick. Always a back up.

  • CJSHYY

    Sure hope not… All I want for Lin right now it’s get good stats. smh!

  • adele

    I’m not sure if you noticed Kemba’s reaction on the last few seconds of the second OT, he was trying to act like a coach in the huddle and Lin probably disagreed and Kemba was not happy with Lin at that time. I don’t know if Kemba is not jealous of Lin at all. Maybe all his team mates are jealous of him even considering that he had all the votes that compared to them.

  • jeremylin17

    yeah but it paints a better picture than what clyde drexler started.

  • zxcvb

    Hornets signed Hayward to an offer sheet in 2014 (Utah matched), so it’s not impossible. But I don’t know. Utah likes Gordon more than CHA likes Kemba. So if they want a PG, I think they’d rather trade Favors or even Gobert (Withey is impressing). Also, I don’t see MJ/Cho/Cliff putting that much faith in Lin, even though he deserves it.

    I hope the wild theory is correct, but for now, I’m still hoping/counting on an MDA reunion next season.

  • adele

    Still the same banana Psalm.

  • zxcvb

    I think he thought he’d play pick-and-pop with Hawes and Frank. But Hawes has lost his shooting touch and Frank is pretty selfish and always trying to drive.

  • zxcvb

    Happens to so many players and yet people still doubt that Lin can be a legit starting PG.

  • John Focker

    Hayward will definitely opt out, so Utah can either get Kemba or let Hayward walk for nothing. Hornets may not have much faith in Lin being starting PG, but it’s clear as day that Kemba starting isn’t exactly going places either. At this point the season’s lost, and Hornets might be eyeing next season with Hayward onboard. Not saying it WILL happen, just that it’s not crazily outlandish. Plus Hornets might let Burks handle the ball.

    Wishful thinking for sure, but stranger things have happened so like I said, fingers crossed (more like intertwined by now).

  • John Focker

    Hayward will definitely opt out, so Utah can either get Kemba or let Hayward walk for nothing. Hornets may not have much faith in Lin being starting PG, but it’s clear as day that Kemba starting isn’t exactly going places either. At this point the season’s lost, and Hornets might be eyeing next season with Hayward onboard. Not saying it WILL happen, just that it’s not crazily outlandish. Plus Hornets might let Burks handle the ball.

    Wishful thinking for sure, but stranger things have happened so like I said, fingers crossed (more like intertwined by now).

  • JoeTeam

    Refresh to see 2 decisions by KW that prolonged the game and his scoring streak. Then 2 decisions by Lin that won the game.

    1. KW no pass to open Lin ending regulation – look at Lin’s wide open lane:

  • JoeTeam

    2. KW no pass to open Lin in OT1 end – this is the one where Lin was eventually wide open under the basket, but KW frittered the chance away for his own shot as in regulation. See how much time there was as the play developed. JLin was open for a full 4 seconds.

  • JoeTeam

    3. JLin to open 2OT. This is why he got the ball – created separation with a side open MW 3. Before that, JLin had really held his dribble and people on his back, under pressure.

  • JoeTeam

    4. Finally, this one iced it. Cody is about to brick it, but makes 2 FTs for the win.

  • JoeTeam

    5. Bonus – this is JLin threading the pass to KW to get 2 FTs for KW … see the difference in his vision and passing skillz vs KW. No question JLin made the plays that won the game for CHA. We just wish some other players would make these plays for JLin.

  • TTNN

    Hayward plays the same position as Batum and doing it better, don’t see how Hornets could get him from Utah. No way Utah will trade Hayward for Walker.

  • Interesting trade speculation to discuss the possibility of Hornets to sell high on Kemba.

    I did some research on Gordon Hayward trade scenario & saw Raja Bell suggestion to trade away Gordon since he’s really not #1 option in a team. But the downside are:
    1. Utah seems to like Gordon as the #1 weapon. He suits the face of the franchise of the Mormon state.
    2. And they might not want Kemba since Trey Burke scored so easily on Kemba with 9 out of 11 pts in the 2nd OT period.

    Hornets might be stuck with Kemba as Gordon is stuck with Utah.

    The trade scenario that might be likely to happen is JLin to 76ers.
    We say the trade rumor of Ty Law to 76ers from Houston. But if I were MDA, I’d rather get JLin either now or in the off-season when he becomes a Head Coach somewhere. Who’d want Ty who got a lot of DUI risk and a shorter PG than Lin?
    As @occupatio:disqus suggested, Lin for draft picks might be possible if Hornets gave up on the season and would like to get an asset before JLin walks away in the summer.

    We might have to wait until off-season for possible MDA/JLin reunion since MDA would want to secure a Head Coach position somewhere with JLin as his ace card. I wonder if Nets would give him a chance.

  • John Focker

    2016-2017 will be Hayward’s last season before opting out, so Jazz have him for one more year and then he walks. Kemba’s contract is until 2019. Surely Jazz can wait and see who’s available on the trading block next year, but this is why Hornets is wooing them with Walker’s 52pts tonight so that Jazz’d fall for it.

    While Lin to wherever MDA is sounds great, letting Lin run the Hornets for the remainder of the season to show what he can do would do wonders for his new contract.

  • Even if JLin is no longer a Hornet next season, I respect Pete Guelli, the Hornets Marketing VP
    He credited JLin as part of unsung heroes, highlighting his defense on Rodney Hood

    @PeteGuelli Unsung heroes. @FSKPart3 with efficient 17 pts. Marvin with big hustle plays & @JLin7 w/ 9pts 5asst 6 reb & holds Hood to 4 of 17 shooting.
    https://twitter.com/PeteGuelli/status/689263518751670273

  • TTNN

    Kemba made two more mistakes right before this. First is that he did not ran back with his man for defense, he only pay attention to the ball, and lost his man at the corner, and that results in the corner 3 which tie the game. Then after he got the in bound, he did not call the time out, and he did not organize the offense either, just ran into a hero ball to chuck up a 1 on 3 contested mid range.

  • JoeTeam

    You are right, it is on the highlights. So great to see and read calls like yours.

  • JoeTeam

    The unsung JLin D series in the endgame – pics … hit refresh:

  • JoeTeam

    reb

  • JoeTeam

    stopping penetration forcing the abort.

  • JoeTeam

    Knocking the reb to kw:

  • JoeTeam

    forcing a brick:

  • JoeTeam

    fighting a screen and teaming with Cody to force a key brick on the last possession

  • TTNN

    the last Utah offense, Kemba was lost early before the pick, and Cody again messed up the P&R defense, he totally lost his man empty under the basket, and go all the way out of the 3pt line, Kemba did not switch thus one screen from Lin’s man blocked both Cody and Kemba. But Lin was smart enough to switch and stop the driving lane of the ball handler, and notice how far out he have to shoot the 3, and Lin came out to contest it.

    If Lin did not step out, that will be sure an open 3, or empty 2 under the basket. Lin’s excellent read here really helped the team.

  • JoeTeam

    2 more key offensive plays:

    1. Getting it to MW to stay in contact during OT1

  • JoeTeam

    This is where inbound to Batum was intercepted by Hayward. See how open JLin was …

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, refresh to see your call in a picture. I love it it’s all hear for everyone to see. That is why I really liked JLin’s play today, all of these and it.

  • TTNN

    Wow, time could really faint memories…… Lin don’t get picks in Houston, he has to drive by people by himself. Yes, there is good big man but they don’t really go out and set picks. And he was camped at the corner and don’t get to play PG that much either.

    Plus, he got trashed by HOU writers and fans, and his coaches and the team commentators.

  • maybe so .. pick-and-pop like last season with Boozer/Jordan Hill
    but at least Ed Davis and Wes Johnson can finish strong so there’s balance.

    The Hornets roster for big men is so horrible that none can finish strong regularly.

    Frank is trying to develop himself to be Point-Center so there’s uncertainty.
    At least JLin tried to get him going to roll more to basket in this Jazz game.
    Maybe he can be the reliable big to pick-and-roll

  • oh, really? I haven’t seen it
    I’ll check tomorrow if there’s something more than common disagreement

  • I hope Lin’s stats would improve in post ASB

  • CJSHYY

    He should. He knew who made all these game plan for Hornets… Ya! Lin sure will not stay w Hornets next season. Pete is nice guy indeed.

  • TTNN

    Lin might not be used the best offensively in this team, but he definitely was used to his strength defensively in this team. Coach Clifford relied on Lin defensively a lot on his capability to read the offense. So that’s the biggest plus so far I see Lin in this team.

  • TTNN

    Utah could easily re-work a deal with Hayward after that, they have his bird right, and the team have plenty of space to re-sign him. Hayward will for sure opt out his contract, but there is no incentive for him to go to Hornets. By that time, Hornets is not a better team than Utah, Utah had a lot of young talent and Hornets has only Kaminsky.

  • This was brilliant with a GREAT SAVE followed by threading a NEEDLE PASS to Kemba who got fouled.
    And all the decision-making happened in the span of 2-3 seconds before Jazz can react much

  • Yes, Kemba was so into tunnel-vision of 50+ scoring.
    Hardly a championship PG with obvious defensive lapses.

    It’s like watching mini-Harden who’s not as selfish but with worse passing skills

  • Darin Tanaka

    Thomas said he doesn't take all-star voting seriously. "I mean, you see a guy like Jeremy Lin getting a lot of votes…"— Mark Murphy (@Murf56) January 19, 2016

  • John Focker

    True on re-working deal with Hayward, which is why CHA is trying really hard to polish and shine their fool’s gold. If (a big if) Utah is tricked into trading, then Hayward really has no say in the matter. After that it’s up to CHA on how to woo him into staying. 🙂

  • Spot

    Problem is you get the votes!!

    Someday these players will eat their words, RACISTS!!

  • LAJane

    I kind of doubt Lin has to be especially showcased for his value anymore…I think his value is already clear. I do feel like Charlotte has finally killed off all the old false memes. Now it’s a matter of appropriate slots available and shoving pieces around and calculating timing and money. It’s not just who thinks well of him but do the chess pieces all fit. Lots of interesting and possible/believable scenarios floating around.

  • John Focker

    Comments were made on http://www.isay.tw that despite MJ being stern-faced (arguably turned off by Kemba’s ISO plays hurting the game), he clapped at Jeremy’s three-pointer, and at a later point patted his head. Did anyone catch these things happening? The interpretation was that MJ was more content with Jeremy’s teamball style than chuck-fest.

    Also, someone made a really funny comment: “Jeremy should shape his hair to look like the basket.” (So that Kemba would pass to him thinking he’s shooting)

  • bolero

    nah. MJ was a #1 isoballer..

  • Fevers End

    I saw the three pointer part, but I’m not sure if it was because of Jeremy. Kemba drove in the middle and dished it out to Lin because he was getting trapped.

  • LAJane

    Whenever I hear a big ppg number, the first thing that goes through my mind is “Yeah, but did that win the game”, and often it did not. Previous high was 42 points – in a loss. And it came very close to being 51 points in a loss tonight. Those kinds of individual numbers usually mean team ball was weak. The NBA plays up the hero numbers because it seems so many fans don’t seem to know or be interested in anything beyond that. Can another team be dazzled enough by that to trade for him if it doesn’t get his team into the playoffs?

  • deesee5

    But he was a dam good isoballer! Besides he made plenty of passes too. He’s a good all around player. That’s why he is considered the GOAT.

  • LAJane

    LOL. snort

  • Yascar

    The arrogance… I hope Jeremy kills him on court next time.

  • John Focker

    Word. This was what Tracy McGrady was doing in Magic, and it took him nowhere.

  • John Focker

    Thugs of a feather with Mayweather.

    Wait, that rhymes! LOL

  • TK Wong

    This was pretty obvious that Lin was open for a layup if KW had passed the ball . If rematch the game can see Clifford rubbing his eyes in disbelief that KW did not make the pass and game was going into another OT session risking a loss.

  • TK Wong

    Good analysis

  • zxcvb

    Very possible he walks. There’s heavy speculation that Hayward wants to reunite with Stevens in Boston. Makes a lot of sense and the media wouldn’t hate him if he left to re-join his old coach.

  • zxcvb

    Hey, I agree with Kemba proving himself incapable — even today, in his “career” game, he barely beat the sub-.500 Jazz. Lin has done way more with less shots when allowed to lead.

  • TK Wong

    Despite his record-breaking scoring KW’s decisions kept jeporizing the team’s chances to secure the win. And on other hand JLin’s decisions although not showing up on the stat sheet and earning him personal glory did indeed enable the team to win tonight’s game. He’s all about the team win – big respect to Jeremy.

  • zxcvb

    Lin: “And you see a guy like Isaiah Thomas starting…”

  • Spot

    He already did it several times.

  • zxcvb

    He played in a different era, though. The illegal defense (no zone) era. Iso-ball was a valid strategy. Also, playing in the triangle meant a ton of movement and passing, even if he took (and made) a ton of shots.

    I have no idea what MJ’s mindset is, but Cliff seems to like Kemba a lot. As does Cho, who gave him a quick extension last year 3 games into the season. I did see MJ look dismayed when Kemba didn’t get back on defense after a bucket, leading to a game-tying 3 by Burke.

  • TK Wong

    JLin’s defensive reads and making adjustments
    were just as important as scoring points to enable the team to win.

  • zxcvb

    That interpretation seems like a reach, but I do think MJ appreciates Lin’s hustle on both ends of the court. MJ, the ultimate offensive superstar, still played aggressive defense. But most of today’s biggest stars (e.g. Curry and Harden) don’t bother playing much D at all. They leave that to others.

  • Spot

    Lin stats will improve when he’ll have a coach who calls plays for him.

  • Lin Win

    He’s with Mayweather’s crew so I’m not surprised.

  • Barry Allen

    That’s cos Jordan was so dominant, he could get past the whole team and still score. Jordan was also a great 2 way player.

    Out of everyone in the NBA at the moment, none of them come close to Jordan’s offensive dominance, hence they can hurt the team when they try to do that.

  • MoominFloren

    This is what a PR & marketing professional should do. Appreciate he does take time to reply fans tweets

  • JLin Fan from Australia

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  • JLin Fan from Australia

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    Chinese New Year celebration NBA promotion
    http://xw.qq.com/chinanba/20160118060124

  • Maknusia

    lol…not sure if you were from MJ era…it was just phenomenon to watch him play even on a bad night!

    BTW…he was not simply named for All-Defensive First Team…more so…for nine times!!!

    Even at this age check out his stance!

  • KL

    I have always wondered about MJ’s real stand. Cho and Clifford were quick to label Lin as a backup. On the other hand, MJ said that Lin was their biggest acquisition. I know most people here are sceptical and claim that it was said for China marketing purposes. Still MJ went into some details.

    “We just got Jeremy Lin, who I think is going to be our biggest acquisition. His penetration, his shooting capability, his point guard savvy, he can really pass the basketball, his energy about the game of basketball something.” 

    The narrative about Lin was that he was just a spark scorer off the bench and not a real point guard. It seems that MJ sees things differently from the mainstream.

    Also that MJ had to give the prep talk on teamball. Couldn’t Clifford have done that?

    MJ was more of a team player than he is given credit for. The isoball hero is more marketing myth. MJ had FG% above 50% for many seasons. Also the Bulls were a top defensive team during his time there.

    I think MJ wants to avoid being known as a meddlesome owner. But I really wonder if MJ has different views than Cho and Clifford.

  • Maknusia

    Some Pictures

  • Maknusia

    Thats All

  • JoeTeam

    Curry plays great d

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin then made a 3 out of nothing.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This is exactly why I’ve always felt Lin should not play in the all-star game…Eventhough it’s a fan driven thing, the large majority of players would get very annoy watching Lin play in such a game because he’s not an All-Star..at least, not yet.

    You’d see players like Lebron, Durant and even Curry who is good friend with Lin, make comment questioning Lin making it to the All-Star.

    I do believe that if Lin were to be voted in, there’d be so much criticism toward the system that the NBA would probably change it and make it more of a statistics-based system instead of fan based.

    At the end of the day, I don’t think all the hate is worth it for Lin..I’m confident he won’t make it…The only people voting for him are hard-core Lin fan…I don’t believe there’s enough of them, even in China..I’m sure not everyone in China is a hard core Lin fan to the point they’d vote for him even with inferior stats than many other NBA PG…They’d just look like unfair homers.

    I, myself is a Lin fan, but I feel he doesn’t deserve to play in such a game because his stats aren’t there..I’d rather see Lin make the ASG based on merit instead of making it because he has a lot of fan in China who doesn’t care whether his stats are good enough in compare to other NBA players.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Cody screwed up another Jeremy assist.

  • zxcvb

    ??? Klay and Bogut cover for him every possession.

    Curry is an amazing one-way player, but he’s only an offensive factor. Lebron is a two-way superstar.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Just amazed how many blown assists that Charlotte made by Cody alone.

  • grover chang

    I thought the same thing. The pep talk Jordan gave and the way he truly played team ball and defense is opposite of how Hornets play under walker.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree…I thought it was a Hawes problem, but Cody has not been good at finishing these assisted shots…At least, he tries to dunk it in compare to Hawes who wants to lay it up…Cody is simply too slow to go up and dunk..Takes it too long to go up and that allows the center time to block his dunk.

    How many assisted pass by Lin has Cody/Hawes and Frank blown?….Lin lost at least 3 easy-under-the-basket assist yesterday and it’s very annoying.

  • BobbyH

    You got me. Haha. Wrong fingers moved too fast over another.

    Blubell got it right too. In some ways, it is indeed heading into perdition if Hornets plays like this, serving hero-ball.

  • LinJa

    I’m an MJ fan, as GOAT, he has always had unique vision and perspective about the game. I don’t doubt his quote about Lin benefits his team for promotional purposes. However, that being said, it doesn’t make him a liar. What he said about Lin is probably his honest opinion. I think MJ sees that Lin a good player with strong potential. We know this of Lin, so did MJ.

    So now the question is, why not continue to prop Lin up? Well there’s the contract. Lin may be looking for other teams next year. The PG slot is filled already. Kemba is sufficient for hornets. With the right pieces in hornets, Kemba will take hornets to the playoffs. Lin is not that piece because Lin has to be a backup to fit with Kemba.

    We saw Lin started a few games and lost. Our observation concludes that this is because Lin has to play pg. there’s only one ball. Kemba can’t be SG, bad Def, too small etc.

    If MJ sees above, I wouldn’t invest in Lin either. Simply there’s no proper opportunity for Lin unless Lin wants to be a back up PG. Maybe Cliff can figure out how Lin can be ginobli. But I doubt it, this team is not Spurs and they do not have the culture. Batum and Kemba has selfish tendencies. Though batum has been playing less Ido lately.

  • LinJa

    All the bigs are mediocre. Can’t catch, can’t rebound, can’t defend, can’t set picks. Frank has potential. The bigs are only good at shooting when they’re hot lol

  • Yascar

    I know what you’re saying but players commenting on other players on something like this is arrogant and unnecessary, particularly because the NBA itself set up the stupid system to begin with. If Thomas had higher votes, I can guarantee he would praise the voting system. Commenting on someone else’s votes is just trite. He didn’t have to mention Lin by name, but he did.

  • sws94

    MJ said he benefitted the team for marketing purposes? What was the context and where did he say this?

  • sws94

    He gets more picks in Charlotte than he did in Houston. And he didn’t play PG much in Houston because Harden played 38-40 minutes a game. How can we forget that? Houston was a better team, had more talent. Lin’s usage was very irregular, especially in season 2.

  • LinJa

    I meant that I have no doubt The team benefitted from MJs quote in terms of marketing. I did not say MJ made statement that explicit states he benefits from Lin as a marketing piece.

  • LinJa

    I was referring to MJ quote in preseason stating that Lin may be the hornets biggest acquisition.

  • sws94

    That was about his game, his ability to penetrate, etc.

  • LinJa

    Yes I know. I didn’t say Mj made a statement that he benefitted from Lin as a marketing tool

  • sws94

    I think fans can enjoy Lin’s game and what he brings to the game in his own way without needing to elevate him to all-star status when his play this season doesn’t support consideration for it. Nor does his career numbers. It’s more than popularity, it’s on the court play or career play. It’s a big distraction and regular NBA fans wonder why his name is there.

    IT didn’t need to mention Lin’s name but whatever. He’s played well. But he didn’t need to mention Lin’s name.

  • CJSHYY

    Who is Thomas?

  • Phillycheese

    Utah has Burke and Exum, don’t need anymore PGs.

  • CJSHYY

    What did KD & Curry said about Lin? I didn’t see any comments from them?

  • Maknusia

    This is the actual quote..it can be interpreted many ways

    “People send it to me,” Thomas said Monday night after scoring 20 points
    in his team’s 118-113 loss to the Dallas Mavericks. “So I’m not going
    to lie, I do see it. I don’t (get frustrated) because the voting is a
    popularity contest. No disrespect but you’ve got guys like Jeremy Lin
    getting a lot of votes. I can’t do nothing about that. It is what it is
    when it comes to the voting part. But hopefully the coaches give it to
    me.”

  • Maknusia

    Boston Celtics guard Isaiah Thomas

  • sws94

    Lin is an example. It’s not that big a deal really. It’s an all-star game, exhibition game. It’s not that important in my opinion. He’s not taking fan votes seriously and he shouldn’t.

  • sws94

    Hayward better than Batum? Not so sure about that. I’ve seen Hayward play well and not so well, just like Batum.

  • CJSHYY

    Thank you for the full quote… that’s the key point… the voting is a popularity contest. The reporter always tried to stir thing up…. So nothing wrong to vote for Lin bc it’s about popularity contest.

  • donsmacau

    Racism Against JLIN Still Alive & Thriving : Isiah Thomas Publicly Disses JLIN on All-Star Voting

    ““The voting is a popularity contest. I mean, no disrespect, you got guys like Jeremy Lin getting a lot of votes.” 3 hours ago – via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach in NBA

    JLIN the only Asian-American player in the National BlackBasketball Association is the only player who has been both publicly criticized for getting a big contract (Carmelo Anthony, JR Smith) and now only player ever publicly criticized for getting votes (Isiah Thomas)

    Anyone who believes JLIN is not still and continually a target of racism in the NBA — you are living in a fantasyland.

  • Phillycheese

    Hill was a selfish jump shooter. Lousy screens. No thanks.

  • donsmacau

    Who believes that MJ thinks JLIN is a more important Acquisition than Batum?

    If you do, then you can believe that MJ was honest on what he said about JLIN.

    I don’t believe MJ thinks JLIN was more important than Batum and MJ will prove that when he offers Batum a huge contract.

  • Phillycheese

    Lin would have played 27 min without the 10 min of overtime, not 22 min.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree that Thomas should had not thrown Lin’s name out there…He should had been smart enough to understand Lin name is only there because he’s an International star, so his votes doesn’t say much about how well he’s played.

    On the other hand, I can see how some NBA players may get annoyed, specially if Lin makes it before guys like Thomas or even Kemba( I don’t believe Lin will make it which is good)

    I believe the NBA would secretly remove just enough votes away from Lin so he doesn’t make it…and frankly, I’d support them doing so to protect Lin, himself.

    Can you imagine the huge media fiasco this would create if Lin makes it..ESPN and every sports news outfit that covers the NBA would be talking about it and wondering how in the world Lin made it while Kemba, Thomas or others did not….Even guys Like Kyrie who’s been hurt for the most part this year, should get in way ahead of Lin because of their pedigree as perennial all stars.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Today was a set back for the Hornets. Unless someone on the team has a direct conversation with Kemba about his tendencies, I am afraid this team is stuck here for a looong time…

  • CJSHYY

    ASG vote is end so I think Hornets maybe will try to play more team ball now if they still try to make it to playoff.

  • adele

    Last night against Cleveland, he defended kyrie Irving and he wasn’t able to score when Steph guarded him.

  • adele

    Correct

  • Phillycheese

    Do we really care what midget Thomas has to say. Professional jealousy is rife. NBA is blacks do inated sport, controlled by old white men. Until more Asian owners come onboard, not much will change. There are certainly lots of rich Asians who can buy into American sports and entertainment industries and force change.

  • sws94

    Curry’s D is improving and he gives much more effort than Harden does.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Maybe. But what I saw today was really concerning – how many of us would agree to do what our boss (a boss we adore and look up to) said 4 days ago, and revert so drastically to our old ways so soon! I think this pattern is clear to me now… I’ve seen it many times before… these bad habits that Kemba has developed might not change so easily. I think it will require the Boss, or the coach, or the players to speak to him directly about his team killing tendencies. Many times over, as he reverts to his old habits from time to time.

  • sws94

    LeBron is one of the best overall players ever. Curry is one of the best shooters ever.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think anything wrong for Lin got the votes bc NBA put all the players on the list. I don’t know why Mav’s reporter would talk to Thomas about this? Tried to make the headline for Lin? smh! Thomas got good stats bc he’s a starter w lots of min & ball in his hand. Ya! He did play well. But so what? Lots of NBA players did so …

  • adele

    Really? We know that Lin is a great player if given the chance. So how can he not given a chance to showcase his talent even just in the all star. The reason why its a popularity is because at some point in his games he showed star performance and as a fan, you should believe in your heart that he is a star and we enjoy watching him play his game of basketball in a regular season, in play offs and in the all star games. Lin even in his last interview is asking his fans to vote for him. Is that too much to ask from somebody who claims to be a fan? What does being a fan mean to you? Just somebody who criticize his mistakes and put it in a blog?

  • sws94

    Being a fan means being supportive of Lin. But it doesn’t have to mean being unrealistic or that everyone has the same view/interpretation of him on a fanboard.

  • CJSHYY

    MJ is the one who will decide fight for playoff or pick… if they don’t want to fight then maybe Kemba will continue to ISO game. I sure hope not.

  • donsmacau

    Reporter didn’t raise JLIN’s name – Thomas pick JLIN as the example to use. Not anything to do with the reporter. Pick the Asian guy as example but not a black guy.

  • CJSHYY

    I know reporter didn’t bring Lin’s name but why they had to ask Thomas about ASG vote….? If they didn’t ask the question then he wouldn’t talk about it.

  • sws94

    In yesterday’s game, Marv wanted him to shoot and score 50. Lin came in and got the ball to him for him to shoot. Kemba was on fire. Feeling it. If he does this when he’s shooting poorly then we should complain more about him. Kemba shot a little too much in the 4th and some in OT where he could have passed but his biggest problem was his defensive lapses and he admitted to mistakes he made right after the game in his on-the-court postgame interview.

  • rookie75094

    Yup he patted Jlin on the head as he walked past MJ. I have lp.

  • donsmacau

    They ask him what he thinks about making the ASG or not making the game because his votes are low. Perfectly reasonable qustion to ask of any good player.

    Thomas made it about JLIN all by himself.

  • sws94

    It’s a player’s opinion and some players namedrop. I have no idea what this has to do with Lin being Asian. If Lin had the numbers to support an ASB position then we can complain. But it is a now starting PG having a strong season saying a 6th man combo guard with just OK numbers getting that many fan votes shouldn’t be taken seriously. I don’t think it is an example of what you site. There are other examples. I don’t see it here.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But it’s weird. He’s not their player why they even cared about it… I really think ever since Lin didn’t go to Mav… they were not that friendly to Lin anymore…

    But it’s true Thomas also feel upset w his good stats why he got so low votes… (that means he’s not popular…) … Talk about Lin, I think that’s his OS from his heart…. smh!

  • donsmacau

    Mav reporter did not say one word about JLIN he only ask Thomas do Thomas want to go to ASG.
    Mavs NEVER said the name Jeremy Lin at all.

    Only ONE man said JLIN name and that is Thomas.

  • rookie75094

    And stay healthy for his next true team

  • Phillycheese

    There are 448 other players he could have name dropped, why pick the one guy that stands out. If you truly believe there was not dissing intended, your head is stuck in the sand too long. The all star game is for fans and fans want to see Lin play. That is reflected in the votes. All these people complaining about Lin only getting in because of his Asian fan base … Do Asian fans worth less than American fans? Rhetorical quest, don’t need to answer.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    Lol Kemba is the better point guard 52 points 9 assists and 8 rebound on around 46% shooting. Lin doesn’t have to be a all star he isn’t he is a solid 6th man or starter on a bad team. Kemba is a allstar

  • BobbyH

    You don’t get it is PERSONAL.

  • Maknusia

    I think we are getting a little carried away here…JL is at 8th and IT is had 9th, so obviously he would name Lin

  • stevesmithisgawd

    Kemba is by far better than J lin stop pumping up somone who can’t handle himself on the court. all of you claiming racism should know the hornets have 5 white players.

  • KHuang

    I personally agree with Isaiah Thomas.

    In my opinion, Lin is not an All Star this season.

    While I absolutely believe that Lin is a fantastic All NBA 1st team talent who plays like an All NBA 1st team player against all opponents, the simple hard truth is that Lin is not featured on this Charlotte team because Clifford encourages Walker to freeze Lin out.

    Lin is allowed to do about 30% of what he is capable of. There is no question in my mind that he would do Linsanity every game and be the frontrunner for MVP if he were allowed. But Lin is NOT ALLOWED to play his game, and thus the Hornets lose.

    Lin will be a true All Star the instant his next NBA team gets over his SKIN COLOR.

  • Phillycheese

    I paid $86 for league pass not to watch Thomas or Kemba, but to watch Lin. I would say I am a lot more invested than some American fan who watches NBA on free tv.

  • donsmacau

    Do you think we should subtract all of JLIN’s All-Star votes because he is not good enough?

    Should we subtract Kyrie Irvings All-STar votes since he only played a few gms this injury year and had avg. stats?

  • KHuang

    What you smokin?

    Lin is a backup SG, not a PG.

    Besides, Lin has historically kicked Walker’s butt and is STILL doing it in daily practices and games.

    Oh yeah. Don’t forget that Lin was a seasonlong starter on the Houston Rockets that made the playoffs in the powerful Western Conference 3 seasons ago. So STOP LYING that Lin cannot start for a good team because hard stats DEBUNK your Lin hate.

    Get your stats fixed. THEN come back here and flame Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    I know. But why they asked Thomas about ASG at all? Mav is not even in EC team. They should care more about their DW will make it to ASG not Thomas.

  • KHuang

    This team needs to GO DOWN for the losing to stop.

    The best way for the team to go down is for Walker to brick this team into selfish ballhog losses.

  • Phillycheese

    Not obvious to me. He could have said Kobe, who is having a sucky season performance wise and is 1 overall. But Thomas is too chickensh1t to call out the Black Mamba. Much easier to pick on the Asian dude. Typical playground behaviour. Here’s a hint, right or not he could have just shut his trap.

  • Acbc

    If my memory serves me correctly, IT is part of the Mayweather crew. They’ve always been vocal about how Lin was a hyped media invention. It doesn’t surprise me that IT singled out Lin just becuase he’s pissed by the fact that Lin’s more popular than him.

  • Phoenix Rising

    bws94, my point is this – I remember when my head coach would scold me and tell me to change a bad habit. I would never dare to defy my head coach just 4 days later. Most of us wouldn’t. A small minority would, because they did not take the words coming out of the head coach’s mouth seriously. That was a different situation because my coach had all the power, and would simply bench bad defaulters for entire months at a stretch.

    This is not only about today’s game, it is a long running pattern that has become obvious to me, punctuated by his behavior this game. The results were good, his shooting was hot, but the stickiness of his habits became apparent to me today

  • Phillycheese

    Sws dun get it.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. I really hate Mav now. So weird. IT played so many games why only Mav’s reporter cared so much about he will make it to ASG or not?

  • KHuang

    So what if it is?

    Lin has NEVER needed “personal” to BULLY wimpy little Isaiah Thomas in NBA games.

  • fatbob

    lol did you upvote yourself? Sorry but kemba walker is NOT an allstar, he is way too inconsistent, ALOT of games he shoots like 20% from the field. He has talent though, by next season he could finally break out if the other players on the team, like batum and lin give him their trust and don’t leave hornets.

  • donsmacau

    Believe me that will happen and soon. “Walker to brick this team into selfish ballhog losses”

  • KHuang

    The only thing I don’t agree with sws about is that Lin’s voting isn’t about Lin being Asian.

    It VERY MUCH IS, and that is a GOOD THING.

  • Phillycheese

    Thomas is an idjit, not a wimp. He’s pretty fearless going to the hole, and pretty fearless namedropping JLin.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    Lin fans cannot take a little discussion lol I was a pretty big lin fan back in the day on havard and the knicks but now he is not better than Kemba there is a reason he has been benched on every nba team. Jeremy’s per 36 is worse than kembas normal stats and in the offseason you guys complained about kemba 38% shooting but now that he is shooting 42% he has one up on Lin

  • KHuang

    Well, Walker DID make the All Star game two seasons ago when he played decent team basketball in his contract year.

    But since Walker got his contract, he has PLAYED LIKE CRAP.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    Lin can be a great sixth man on a nba squad.

  • fatbob

    wow…didnt know he made the all star game, thats crazy lol

  • KHuang

    Your posts are GETTING DUMBER.

    Lin’s not featured on this Charlotte team.

    Besides, Lin is BLASTING Walker in +/-.

    Please STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF by ignoring the stats. You are making a very poor case for Lin hate.

  • Phillycheese

    Mayweather owes his entire wealth to the media created aura of a man who backpeddles for a living. If Mayweather was a fighter (and not the wife beating type fighter) and not a runner I’d have more respect for him.

  • KHuang

    Actually, Walker was GOOD that year.

    He averaged around 17 and the Hornets won 44 games and made the playoffs.

    But since then, the Hornets have fallen off sharply.

    Walker has it in him to play clean team basketball. But he REFUSES to, and that’s why I hate his game.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    Not a hater i’ve been on this site for awhile.

  • Phoenix Rising

    What are you talking about? We love a little, or a lot of discussion as well 🙂 Just as long as the other party remains civil. Its not so funny (or civil) when someone starts a discussion by laughing out loud in your face.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    It seems the only people who claim Lin should start are people on this board. Nuff said

  • KHuang

    You trolls just don’t get how Lin has ALREADY EXCELLED as a seasonlong starter.

    Mindlessly repeating things won’t make the past go away.

  • KHuang

    Then STOP ACTING like a troll hater with dumbass wrong stats and debunkable hate.

    If you act like a troll, you get treated like one.

  • KHuang

    In actual games, Lin has indeed made Thomas look like a WIMP.

    Lin is a nightmare matchup for Thomas because he’s bigger and stronger and more hoopssmart than Thomas.

    Thomas historically plays very poorly against Lin.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    J lin is not the most consistant player either my friend.. Theres a reason why Kemba starts and its not racism or the franchise or Kembas contract. J lin was paid more than Pat Bev and got benched Even when lin started all 82 games he just averaged 2 more assists and 6 less points than kemba on similar shooting avgs

  • fatbob

    kobe isn’t a true allstar this season, neither is kyrie irving. Dwayne Wade is having a good season, but shouldn’t be allstar. AllStar votes aren’t only about talent, its also about popularity. IT can complain all he wants, but hes not getting votes because fans don’t like him.

  • Acbc

    Curry plays D within the team. People that don’t understand that will see how He defends as weak as he funnels players to his bigs or teammates. Team defence is not about stops so much as redirection and shunting offence to do things they don’t want to do, making them uncomfortable and using the dimensions of the court to trap people.

  • Phillycheese

    Still the team took 2 ot to get passed Utah. hornets were at home too. I thought Hornets would lose this game because they usually do when heroball is played. But its all good. Team won and kemba got his stats.

  • Maknusia

    Could be…whatever it is…we shouldnt get carried away with it…

  • Maknusia

    who knows…at times reporters do talk to visiting players as well.

    here is the full article
    http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/01/boston_celtics_isaiah_thomas_t_1.html

  • fatbob

    lin didn’t start and lose in any game?? He was never a starting PG on the hornets,so we can’t say anything.

  • Maknusia

    comeon Khuang you know the rules here…lets not get personal

  • donsmacau

    Based on what metric is Kemba a (consummate volume shooter) an All-Star?

    It certainly isn’t based on WINS that Kemba has carried for this team 2-10 last run (Lakers,Jazz) while Kemba is responsible for shooting the team to at least four Losses if not eight.

  • heart

    @psalm234 and Mods, why is my other comment in pending? Please check… Thanks.

  • Maknusia

    WHy do you feel its wrong to call Lin to start?

  • donsmacau

    Go read Atthehive, read comments last night after game and never saw so many comments advocating for JLIN to start.

  • fatbob

    now every asian on earth will burn isaiah thomas name in their brain, along with byron scott, kobe bryant and MDA

  • Maknusia

    gimme a moment…lemme check

  • Maknusia

    it should fine now….not sure…why Disqus didnt like it

  • fatbob

    hayward is a better scorer than batum, probably plays better D, but is a worse facilitator.

  • sws94

    They are there for career achievements (Wade, Kobe), not for this season. They’ve been all-stars. Irving is a perrenial all star. You don’t have to vote for him this season but in his career, he’s one. I don’t know why this flashy all-star game is so important to so many fans of Lin. Lin needs to rest, not be involved in that pageantry and show-off display. When Lin performs like an all-star he’ll go and nobody will question him. If he goes now, casual NBA fans and perhaps players will ask why he’s there. And that’s not because he’s Asian or they don’t respect his game.

  • donsmacau

    Any team or Coach with integrity would come out and defend a Black man on their team who was disrespected by opponents for getting VOTES.

    Steve Clifford who depends on JLIN to do all the dirty work on his team and close games because he needs a dependable Brain on the floor — you will hear from him and the Hornets Organization NOT ONE PEEP to stand up for his player

  • donsmacau

    And how do you explain Kyrie Irving then?

  • sws94

    I think that’s the way most NBA coaches/scouts etc. see him.

  • sws94

    It’s not that big a deal. It’s one guy using Lin as an example. I think it’s not even worth talking about that much. I think we’re giving IT too much attention.

    Why should Cliff care about what IT said about the all-star game? That’s not practical.

  • fatbob

    i disagree, lin would do well in the allstar game, he is a solid 2 way player that would help the east alot! So you admit then, allstar is for popularity and not talent? Kobe is retiring this season, and yeah alot of fans want to see him in the allstar game, I get it and im actually fine with it. But way too much politics in my opinion. If kobe is honest with himself, he knows he does not deserve the allstar, same story with kyrie irving. Does Dwayne Wade deserve the #1 fan votes because of what he did 10 years ago? Then you look at jeremy lin, who is having a great season so far for the hornets and has become a TWO WAY player, which in the nba is a very rare thing, and you have to question if the votes he got is more worthy than a guy like isaih thomas, or dwayne wade.

  • donsmacau

    You know what if say a guy like David Lee (white guy )said about Andre Drummond (black guy) what Thomas said about JLIN.

    … The amount of Hate that would befall David Lee would almost run him out of the NBA.

    Godforbid if JLIN said anything like that.

  • fatbob

    yes, inconsistent guys are not MVP’s or allstars, thanks for agreeing finally. Kemba isn’t an allstar

  • KHuang

    I am SWATTED.

    happily back down.

  • KHuang

    But I’m on this board and I’ve been crowing for Lin NOT to start.

    It’s not that Lin’s worse than Walker and Batum, it’s the reality of the toxic team politics.

    Even though Maknusia has happily warned me, I am not incorrect when I write that fans here are NOT pushing for Lin to start even though he statistically is better than Walker.

  • sws94

    I don’t see anything racial here. If IT has some racist issues that’s his stupidity and problem. But just saying Lin’s name as a basketball player as an example of a player getting votes is his opinion about fan votes in the all-star game.

  • KHuang

    Incorrect stuff should be called out.

  • sws94

    I didn’t say it was popularity. I said Kobe and Wade are career all-star players. They are both HOF-caliber players. You can’t compare them to Lin, they are on a much higher level. They go to the all-star game based on their careers over season. There may be some popularity there, but it is based on accomplishment as well.

  • donsmacau

    Completely racial.
    No doubt that it is racial.

    NBA is a black industry (75% players, increasingly more black announcers, coaches, refs even ownership)

    Because it is a BLACK industry people who are Black conclude there is no repercussion for being politically incorrect but if you ARE NOT Black you must tread carefully.

    Take a look at what happened to Danny Ferry, career ended by merely reading a report.

  • sws94

    How many times was he an all-star? I don’t like his game but he puts up big numbers and that’s what things are based on.

  • KHuang

    ???

    Lin has shot better, defended better, won more, and WRECKED Walker in head to head matchups.

    Lin’s been a low usage player and STILL he crushes Walker historically.

    Lin’s been doing this since college.

  • sws94

    That’s your opinion that what IT said is racial. But there’s nothing racial in his comment.

  • donsmacau

    And that’s your opinion and it happens to be wrong.

  • sws94

    Because you’re the arbiter about what’s right and wrong in the world. OK. That’s pretty arrogant.

  • Phillycheese

    When a guy starts off with “No disrespect…” he is disrespecting. When he says “To be honest with you …” means he was lying all the other times. When he say says “to be frank…” he doesn’t mean Kaminsky.

  • donsmacau

    You can defend Haters of the only Asian-American player in the NBA (Clarkson is black).
    You can close your eyes, cover your ears.
    … fact remains JLIN is under sustained racism in the NBA it ebbs and flows – like the flow with IT, but it’s always there – regardless whether you DEEM it’s there in your fantasy world.

  • Phillycheese

    Actually you are both entitled to your opinions. It seems you also exhibit some arrogance, mixed in with a tinge of self-righteousness. But hey, that’s just my opinion. Why do I have visions of poodles racing to and fro in my mind?

  • heart

    Exactly! Read my comment which was in pending from 2hrs ago.

  • sws94

    I think he’s better now in some ways after watching him the full season. He’s better at getting to the paint because he uses the hesitation move better. He’s not necessarily better at finishing but he’s improved in that regard. He’s better at getting to spots on the court and getting his shot off or sometimes creating for a team mate. He is way better at handles. His jump shot has improved to the point where he shoots it better than Lin this season.

    Lin is way way better at defense. He just bodies up better. Lin is way way better at passing, Kemba is rather poor at passing. Lin is way better at court vision. Lin has more hustle in him, can make huge scrappy plays. In some ways, Lin is the better PG by quite a bit. He’s just let down by his ball handling skills and somewhat predictable offensive game.

    What are ball handling skills? Lin is fine in the open court where he has space to maneuver and get through players. That’s not the problem. It’s in the half-court when he is pressured, he is slowed down considerably, momentarily loses control of the ball, is forced to pick up the dribble. That’s where he needs to improve. If he did that, plus worked more on one-on-one moves and using his mid-range and floaters, then he’s a quality starter for any team. But he needs to do that do be one. Even with Kemba’s subpar PG skills, his ball-handling skills are so important, that he is judged a quality player.

  • sws94

    Fair enough, no one is perfect.

  • Phillycheese

    I agree, you’re not perfect. Why do you bother when others get bothered? Seriously, just let people let off some steam. It’s all good in the end – Hornets win, Kemba gets the stats.

  • sws94

    Does anyone even watch the ASB game? I think Lin won’t get a chance to get stronger on his ankle until after ASB. It’s a nice time for him to recharge and I hope all of us do here. Myself included.

  • With MKG cleared for full-contact practice, he might return soon (post All-Star Break?)
    I expect Hairston will go back to bench as Hornets is eager to see Kemba/Batum/MKG dynamics

    https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/689493527571464193

  • rookie75094

    Just rewatch the Linsanity documentary. ..still awsome and inspiring.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Hornets has high hope on MKG but I doubt what he can do for them right after recover from the injury….? Just hope Lin will get good stats w the min he gets.

  • sws94

    Might be the end of Lin in the closing squad. We’ll see. However, Lin may get chemistry with MKG as well. Hairston won’t help the bench.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes, that’s the end of Lin in the closing squad. Lin will get 22 mpg. All we can hope now is when Lin is on the floor, Clifford will sit Kemba to let Lin play 100% PG with no corner standing.

  • sws94

    Don’t want to jump the gun. MKG is 6’7″, Marvin is 6’9″. Lin has some advantages in how he draw fouls and is a playmaker. MKG is not a playmaker nor is Marvin and neither draws fouls like Lin does. I think Lin will get more than 22 minutes regardless, but that’s up to Cliff.

  • BobbyH

    Would it be that the real intention of Hornets FO/MJ is to trade Walker away, giving Walker the offense key to pump up his stats before trade deadline?

    An interesting article from isay.tw, suggesting that Hornets was showcasing Walkers to Jazz, trying to get Hayward in return. Very interesting analysis as it detailed how Hornets FO wanted Hayward and how their relationship went back to 2014. The game fully exposed Hornets true aim, as the article claimed, that allowed Walker to shot a crazy 34 shots. Even refs were drumming.

    Though it might be far stretched, but hey, you never know until you know.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    There will be a few games here and there Lin in closing game but I don’t see it happening very often like recent weeks. The lineup will be too small: Zeller, MKG, Batum, Lin, Kemba but we never know Cliff.

  • Phillycheese

    Charlotte is not a hotbed for NBA star players. They’re better off getting the marginalised players and molding them into a team, rather than chase stars. Generally Kemba is a good guy, good teammate. Takes responsibility for almost costing them the game – gave up two uncontested threes with his unwise collapsing into the paint, and that foul on a three pointer at the end. Kemba played great yesterday, no argument from me, if you looked at the overall picture. It’s tough to score 50+ so let’s not dismiss it, especially when people still point to Lin’s 38 against the Lakers and Spurs.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Please, many sites here in the US are bad enough about baseless rumor or trade fantasy.

    Do we really need the Oversea?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They’re lucky got away with a win at home from another bad team.

  • donsmacau

    Let KEMBA score points and shoot 30+ FGA every night if it helps them get Kemba Traded.
    Kemba’s 52 points certainly reverberated around the NBA front offices last night and I’m sure some executives took notice.

    For me, I’m a firm believer that JLIN is leaving Charlotte next season for a Starting PG role in the NBA so I have no vested interest, however I would like to see the best for the remaining players and believe firmly that Kemba is not the solution but will always keep the Hornets from going anywhere.

    Keep shooting Kemba, putting up volume stats on volume shots will get him noticed by some team.

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang

    LOL. Lin is the better basketball player. If Walker shoots 20% his team is losing. If Lin is shooting 20 %, he has his defense, rebounding, and play making available to him and his team is winning. If Lin and Walker have bad shooting nights, which everyone has (not named curry) who would you want on the court?

  • grover chang

    Also add Lin was starting pg for playoff knicks, and Lin started a large portion of his second season with the Rockets because Bev was, as usual, injured. So as a main pg Lin made the playoffs 3 years in a row. The one year he has not made the playoffs he was not allowed to be the pg. When Lin is the pg, the team makes the playoffs. That is Linsane.

  • Epie

    I don’t see any discussions happening here. Maybe you need to learn how to initiate a legit conversation that doesn’t start with LOL. You are just a troll.

  • grover chang

    I think Lin in the all star game would be exciting. No just because I am a Lin fan, but Lin would actually play some defense which would be contagious. And then whenever he gets the ball, the other team would pick up their game because they don’t want to be embarrassed by the ASIAN guy. The all star may even be a competitive game if Lin stays on the court.

  • Other NBA News:

    @BleacherReport LeBron’s face after Steph Curry ripped him last night

    https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/689467802101506048

  • NONONO

    priceless

  • NONONO

    on the background, Lin just scored.

  • grover chang

    Hard to be sad for a man who has everything. But I’m glad lebron got his two championships. I cant imagine the misery right now if he was still searching for a championship trophy. Does not seem like he will win it this year.

  • NONONO

    Last two games, Lin was guarding 6″8 SGs. Utah Hood shot 23% yesterday vs 41% for the season.

  • CJSHYY

    For FT practice?

  • Kevin Ding wrote that LeBron becomes irrelevant after the Cavs got blown out by the champ GSW last night.

    LBJ himself is the ultimate unselfish guy but Love’s lack of defense, non-trustworthy character of JR Smith derail the team’s success.

    It’s great that teamball and team chemistry is winning because it will increase the market value of JLin. More teams like Hawks & GSW have followed Spurs teamball approach to continue winning.

    https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/689502853547732993

  • DanCohen

    Zammm… I thought it was written long ago, but it’s today’s date, 12 hours ago and you guys haven’t link it yet.
    Now you see he can be mentally tougho.

    https://newsela.com/articles/jeremylin-oped/id/14244/

  • CJSHYY

    Lin did very good on Hood. Middleton was hot that night. Even Batum was the same high like him couldn’t guard him either.

  • LBJ on paper has the physical and mental talent to be more successful than MJ but he only has won 2 rings out of 6 Finals appearance.

    It shows that the supporting teammates are very important to win rings because it’s still a team-sport.
    The team chemistry and characters of his CLE team fall short of his Heat championship teams

  • thanks, this says “By Jeremy Lin, adapted by Newsela staff”

    I wonder if it’s based on recent JLin’s interview on bullying as part of White House initiative.
    It’s still nice and more complete version of the Youtube video

  • Nice work to have JLin Foundation Reading Challenge for Charlotte schools.
    The winner will get a visit from JLin himself.

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/689513393732980736

  • grover chang

    Thank you. Became a Lin fan because of his basketball, but became a bigger fan because of his faith and character.

  • NONONO

    It looks like Hornets have all their hopes on MKG’s return. He has almost 0% on 3pt. but great (?) on defense. What do you think?

  • Spot

    If LBJ is unselfish, Jeremy is Saint Francis of Assisi.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t know anything about him at all. But from the video he showed in practice… I don’t think he’s ready for O & D yet.

  • Spot

    Hopefully Jeremy will be traded soon

  • Acbc

    There is a kind of idiotic yin yang to the way Clifford runs the team with Lin and kW. kW saves his energy on defence so that he can focus on offence. Meanwhile, Lin is made to stand in the corner on offence, so basically he’s saving his energy for defence. Lol

    The sad thing is that this means the hornets are playing 4 vs 5 on bothe offence and defence. When you look at it this way, it’s no wonder the hornets are losing.

  • blubell

    Assisi was a nice town to visit. Not too crowded compared to other touristy areas in Italy.

  • NONONO

    I just looked the 2014-2015 stats, Mo did much better than Kemba. Mo then toke 2m deal and played for cle. It is Kemba’s team. They will live or die with his style – iso. You can tell Lin will leave Hornets.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Only MKG has 7.6 RPG. All other Hornets are under 7. How bad the Hornets’ bigs are.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    According to Acbc, the Hornets will then play 4 vs 5 on both offense and defense with MKG and Walker. Anytime, you play Walker, the team would be 4 on 5 in defense. Anytime you play MKG, it would be 4 on 5 in offense. MKG would take the role of Lin and Lin probably won’t play much at all with the first unit.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Two is better than one.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Hairston is at least a marginal NBA player better than Roberts or Daniels. With him on the bench, the 2nd unit has Lin, Lamb, Hairston, Hawes, and Kaminsky. The team would become 10 deep every night. Even when one of them is injured, the team can still compete. Would Lin get 30+ minutes as he has done lately. My answer is negative. Lin won’t be given the starter minutes.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Clifford has no choice but to play the stars of the game. Note how he has been using Batum and Walker. Same treatment for MKG.

  • DanCohen

    hey anyone comment on this.. why is houston still there (and most linfan’s archnememis, harden?).
    curry is in there too..

    what is this about??? why he picked those 2?

  • jolno

    Great, now hopefully they will trade Lin away now that they get their perceived defensive stopper back to cover up for Kemba and Batum. Just look at Kemba and MKG’s contract and you know Clifford will play MKG more than 40 minutes pretty soon. There is simply no need for Jeremy now. Kemba and Batum can combine for 50 FGA every night with MKG playing his defensive only role LOL.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s from NBA not by Lin. I don’t know why Rox is still there? Maybe bc Yao Ming.

  • DanCohen

    ooooh good point.

  • DanCohen

    but what about curry?

  • CJSHYY

    He’s the hot star right now.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    When European players like Porzingis start getting their share of NBA, the league would be moving away from being dominated by one ethnicity. So far Porzingis has played better than Okafor; as Porzingis is a better all around player. As the league is moving away from traditional low posting game and more towards GSW style of play, Porzingis will take a bigger role than Okafor.

  • jolno

    Kemba was drafted by the Hornets with the 9th pick and he’s become their designated “homegrown star”. How can a journey man like Mo overtake Kemba’s fame? This season we have a very similar situation with Lin instead of Mo, so yeah, I agree with you that it’s very likely that Lin will leave the Hornets after the season if he wasn’t traded away earlier.

  • TTNN

    MKG’s shooting form is funny

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Well, it depends on the role assigned to the players. You can never tell until one of them is injured, the other takes his place.

  • gasparthe2nd

    Perhaps because Curry is truly a good friend of Lin. I agree with the Rox/Yao Ming theory.

  • jolno

    I tried to project the minutes distribution with MKG coming back soon.
    PG: Kemba (40) 8 minutes left
    SG: Batum (32) 16 minutes left
    SF: MKG (40) Batum (8)
    PF: Marvin (28) Frank (20)
    C: Zeller (33) Hawes (15)

    So there are like 24 minutes of playing time left for Lin, Hairston, and Lamb. Since Hairston and Lamb don’t even play PG, at least one of them will become DNP-CD. Hairston probably will sit because of Lamb’s contract. But how many minutes will Lamb play? If Lamb plays at all, it’ll be hard for Lin to crack even 20 minutes of playing time. I guess we will see what happens soon.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The role of PG is given to Walker and Lin is used like a one year rental. Your comparison isn’t fair.
    As to Walker’s ability to defend, I seriously doubt it. PGs of the opposition scoring on Walker as easy as Walker scoring on them. Plus Walker is not the pass first PG like Rubio. He tends to shoot first. Put Lin on him, his scoring will diminish quickly. I am so glad that Walker isn’t Curry. If you put Walker to Lin’s role, his productivity would go south soon.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, this is what I see but I don’t see x’s and o’s because I’ve never been coached in bball. When it happens live action and if we see all this because of live sports experiences, where player spirit and movement is more important than static box scores, … well, that’s where JLin’s play comes alive instead of being on cardboard.

  • JoeTeam

    oh., I needed to refresh to see that you posted the image. Thanks! If kw played like Lin, he would be contesting from the shooter’s right but Cody yes, Cody is way out of position.

  • JoeTeam

    yes sir! You close out the gaps and force a pass or corner/sideline trap and you trust your teammates to weave in behind you.

  • JoeTeam

    it was funny!

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t agree by far. Curry is 2 ways. LeBron travels and pushes people down. He also says he’s the best player in the world, lol. I’m just sayin’, we don’t have to agree.

  • Acbc

    Jeremy is the patron saint of assists! I think you’re right Spot.

  • JoeTeam

    great share. NBA is promoting Harden, JLin, and Curry. Future of Chinese fans by their quantitative analysis, I guess. Great to see Kobe the angry guy not here. Also missing LeBron, KD I’m sure those guys have great numbers.

  • JoeTeam

    yes that’s it, Rox has a fan base there.

  • JoeTeam

    because China fans are like us, really love the winner who nice.

  • JoeTeam

    with all the misses above good player stats as TOVs. That is, if a guy is shooting 35% and should be shooting 40-50% (inside dunks), that estate 5-15% are TOVs. Not to mention the lack of assists … grinds a team down to no gas in the tank in last 3 mins, because of no spirit.

  • JoeTeam

    psalm, you missed LeBron shoving Curry down. That was questionable character at the very least …

  • JoeTeam

    agree.

  • JoeTeam

    humble brag, jk, I’m traveling the world with you lol.

  • Acbc

    That’s amazingly sad.

  • JoeTeam

    EXCELLENT defense by Steph!

  • JoeTeam

    I hope you are right.

  • JoeTeam

    it’s funny how human nature is like that, nobody wants to be called on bad behavior so they self call and reveal their bad behavior lol. I guess that’s what great poker players take advantage of …

  • Dorothy

    but look at the map, ROX is the most hated NBA team in China LOL
    http://nextimpulsesports.com/2014/07/31/results-hated-nba-teams-state-poll-shock/

  • JoeTeam

    You are the master of the inside play, going with the flow rather than pulling a turn and burn.

  • JoeTeam

    oh, ok, I stand corrected thx. Amazing, coming here you learn every day.

  • CaliUSMC

    He needs it lol

  • Acbc

    The simple logic that misses are almost TOs is lost to most people. The hidden truth is that simply making a basket or missing a basket is about making better use of that possession. Therefore a good miss is not the same as an ISO miss.

    We know that Lin’s passes to bigs tend to go as a miss basket, lol. But, it’s a good miss in the long term development of the team. An ISO miss without invoking any other teammate serves no one else but the shooter and makes it much easier for opponents to defend as game progresses. This type of miss becomes a net negative on so many levels.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Houston has always been a strong active Asian market promotion team since Yao Ming.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, just like in your beloved Tennis, you are trying for the % score and stop. Each stop and score is worth 2x the value of 2 scores and a stop. Trading baskets us useful if you are feeling out the momentum, which JLin does well. KW has no clue what he’s doing in a series of plays, or even in one possession. If you aren’t sussing out the team flow, then trading baskets without a brain on top of it is just getting the team closer to the end with exhaustion.

    I hope that helps all fans here too, this convo that I get in you, because we have far too many posts about spot info in-game or after the game.

    Beautiful games have structure that comes alive. That is why I loves seeing JLin’s leadership because he creates beautiful games with all the paint brushes. Life is like that too … I’d better get back to it now ha ha.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Interesting…So with MKG back, Lin will surely lose minutes…My guess is Kemba doesn’t play 40…probably around 32-35 for Kemba since Cliff will have to find decent minutes for Lin.

  • oh I didn’t see that one yet

  • that might just happen :]
    Let’s hope 76ers offer some 2nd-round draft pick for the underutilized JLin

  • Spot

    LOL!!

  • Spot

    It’s a small town. It’s famous just because of Saint Francis.

  • spiderman

    The DIRTINESS of the nba delegitimizes “star” status. I think the nba all-star game (and all-star status) should be eliminated altogether.

    An all-dirt game would be more fitting.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    When was this commercial taped?..Is that very recent?

  • DX

    MKG will start around 20 MPG since need to catch up and don’t want to hurt again.

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    Dude it was really really egregious. LeBron saying he’s the best in the world was really passive aggressive on steph. This one was physical violence and started the dirty play yesterday and I’m glad gsw gave them their deserved spanking. Childish men with money and power.

  • John Focker

    Kemba career FG 40%, Jeremy Lin 43.6%. Some all star who shoots worse than sixth man in the corner.

    Trivia: What is the other term for volume shooter?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    This is why people should hate reading headline. Full quote wasn’t bad and actually good.

    “We got beat up on our home floor tonight,” Kevin Love said. “I think a lot of things went wrong, a lot of things we need to clean up in our preparation, but I think they’re the better team right now. We have a lot of things to get better at. That’s going to take a lot of guys looking themselves in the mirror and it all starts with our leader (James) over there and dwindles on down.”

  • JoeTeam

    What does that mean? Media don’t dare challenge LeBron so I can only guess by my own observations. That he’s too entitled, etc andnot as good as the hype.

  • blubell

    Haha. It was a school trip when I studied abroad in Rome and not at all in my travel list for Italy. But is well known place for art history major like me 🙂

  • Rick Johnson

    SLAM: Stephen Curry, James Harden, Jeremy Lin Help the NBA Celebrate Chinese New Year (VIDEO)Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/media/slam-tv/stephen-curry-james-harden-jeremy-lin-help-the-nba-celebrate-chinese-new-year/#sZZwvm8L281Dmrlf.99

    “In the opener of a five-game showcase, LeBron James and the reigning Eastern Conference champion Cavaliers will visit Lin and the Hornets on Wednesday, Feb. 3 at 7 p.m. ET on Tencent”

    I hope they instruct the refs to not swallow their whistles when Lin gets fouled like they usually do or its going to P-off a lot of Chinese viewers.

  • donsmacau

    That tweet is markedly different in tone and emphasis from what Kevin Love actually said.

    The person who tweeted that is basically a rabble rousing fraud of a journalist.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Exactly. Media malpractice again.

  • JoeTeam

    Wow, that’s goodd for the soul. Italy is amazing if you get in rich with the growth of civilized man.

    We in the west americas have such a short yet impactful track record.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Does everyone here know League Pass now offering free trial until 01-24? (Just a reminder)

  • JoeTeam

    And call.the dirty plays else jlin will get injured by wwf slams to the wood, knee dives, and blindside hits … all done to gsw last night and called.

  • JoeTeam

    Buy three post asg special.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Mainly because the NBA is not so smart. Rox in commercial because their shirts are red and would make a good Chinese commercial? Yao Ming might be an influencer.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Great graphic find!

  • blubell

    I’m glad I studied abroad while in college. I thought this could be my only chance to see the world and for free (well almost free) since school was paying for my education!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How much?

  • CJSHYY
  • tom

    Definitely Yao Ming
    Yao and the Rockets always and forever

  • tom

    They LOVE Kobe too

  • tom

    MKG is way overrated by the Hornets fans because he was a 2nd overall pick.

  • Arsenium12 .

    For those interested, here is the NBA’s Chinese New Year promo from last year. Largely the same group; Lin, Harden, Curry, with Dwyane Wade, too.
    __________

  • jolno

    I forgot to mention that my projection is after MKG is fully back to his pre-injury condition. Either way, Lin’s minutes will likely go down as a result. We just don’t know by how much.

  • Sophie Paris

    I remember that one ^^

  • Singapore BB Fan

    “and very smart” LOL. What?! It’s just a practice session.

  • blubell

    Why Harden again?

  • Singapore BB Fan

    You need some bad guys in a movie to make it more interesting.

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    grrr … ha ha.

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    I think half price.

  • JoeTeam

    there are many more chances! Here’s to all of our indiv and collective futures.

  • blubell
  • CaliUSMC

    no-one cares!!

  • Acbc

    Let’s see if he can do it 5 more times this year, then we’ll care.

  • BobbyH

    Na, na. Statistically it is not possible. It took 2 OT. Even so, it would be all losses and actually few of us would care.

  • John Focker

    Translation: tooting my own horn sure is fun!

  • DX

    Is this lion with Mohawk too?

  • LinMad

  • fatbob

    yes, it puts kobe’s 81 point game into perspective, doesn’t it?

  • heart

    From his heart his mouth speaks. Now we know exactly how IT thinks and feels about Lin. Jealousy Much!

    Exact quote of Isaiah Thomas talking about Lin and All-Star voting, he said: “So I’m not going to lie, I do see it. I don’t (get frustrated) because the voting is a popularity contest. No disrespect but you’ve got guys like Jeremy Lin getting a lot of votes. I can’t do nothing about that. It is what it is when it comes to the voting part. But hopefully the coaches give it to me.” Link:http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/01/boston_celtics_isaiah_thomas_t_1.html

  • fatbob

    lol, im pretty sure harden doesn’t like curry much. At same time harden likes lin and vice versa, curry likes lin and vice versa.

  • BobbyH

    IT needs to get a number. The hate line is long.

  • heart

    Yep! I had long suspect his jealousy towards Lin. Now we have solid proof. That’s why IT and probably KW also wants coaches to vote them in all-star. That was one of the major reasons why KW iso’d almost the entire game last night. He took 34 shots alone out of team total 88 shots. So much for team ball… Action speaks louder than words….

  • grover chang

    When is the trade deadline? Maybe I could pick myself up dreaming of Lin going to a better team. Somehow the hornets are more boring then the Lakers last season.

  • CJSHYY

    I think IT should really think about why he’s so unpopular bc he’s starting PG for Celtics… So what his stats is better than Lin ….that’s all about playing time & chance to take more shots… just look at Ish can tell…. I hope he will not get in. smh!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Every time when IT played against Jeremy, he had a hard time and below average performance. From time to time, Lin has proved that he’s a better player than IT. Jeremy is a much better defender and simply took the ball out of IT’s hand or blocked his shot. Jeremy has made IT miss lots of shots that he could have made against other PGs. IT won’t get the votes from coaches neither. The East has so many better PGs than IT. IT started for Boston and didn’t even start for Phoenix. Saying IT deserves to be All-star is a fallacy. He hasn’t proved he could,.

  • heart

    IT reveals hist heart about Lin. Now we know… Lin should know it too.

  • Pete Roces

    IT is nothing but garbage all about himself just like the rest out there.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope Lin read this news so he will do his best to beat him next time they meet.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Ish Smith now has better value than IT.

  • heart

    I think he took a ‘cheap’ shot at Lin, IMO.

  • heart

    He thinks he’s better than Lin, that’s why he had the audacity to bring out Lin, IMO.

  • heart

    Me too.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Kemba needs to pass more the get teammates involved. The teammates weren’t cold at all. They were all shooting well, by and large. Lin was shooting 4 out of 6. The only 3 pointer that Lin scored was from a desperate last ditch pass from Kemba who was trapped and whose alternative was either a TO or a possible assist; not much a choice.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! This summer Lin will get starting PG job to a team IT always wanted… Will see.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin this year has shown his versatility and his value as a combo guard, an unselfish PG, and a competitive SG.

  • heart

    When the scores were tie at 108, Hornets had the last possession to win the game. Lin was open and right under the basket for an easy lay up, YET KW didn’t pass and wanted to take the glory winning shot. But he botched the jumper and caused the 2nd OT (if I remember correctly). His Selfishness was on display last night.

  • CJSHYY

    I think part of the reason Lin is #8 & he’s #9. IT thinks he’s starting PG but Lin is only a backup… smh!

  • Linzen

    Well IT, how do you like them apples?!!

  • heart

    That’s his thinking. IMO, either IT does not realize or want to validate that Lin too has the skills and ability of a starting PG, which was ‘taken’ from him while he was in Rox. Lin has not had the opportunity to reclaim his rightful place yet!

  • MoominFloren

    haha right

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! It’s OK this summer will change that…

  • Dorothy

    I find it hilarious. In my mind Lin’s real vote is probably 10 times more than what NBA wants us to believe.

  • heart

    Me too. I don’t know how it could be less than 200,000 votes? Especially this year, Lin has very positive press than last year and China votes should have gotten Lin to the top. God knows the truth. I’ve settled to be content for now, as long as Lin remains in to 10 at the same or higher position for this year.

  • blubell
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    http://swarmandsting.com/2016/01/18/jeremy-lins-versatility-is-paying-off-for-the-charlotte-hornets/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network by Jerry Stephens 1d ago

    Jeremy Lin has shown just how valuable he is to the Charlotte Hornets this season by excelling in every role that the team has asked of him…He is a dependable scoring option off of the bench for the team and a player that can create shots for others as well…If Jeremy is asked to score, he scores. If he is asked to defend a tough offensive player, he defends, If he is asked to be a playmaker and create for others, he creates. If he is asked to be a secondary player and knock down tough shots, he does just that…Lin’s defense has been a nice surprise for the team this season as he has a 99.1 defense rating on the year which is good enough for fourth best on the Charlotte Hornets…Jeremy is third on the team in assists this season. He has the second highest plus/minus with +1.7. He takes the second most free throw attempts per game on the team with 4.0 attempts per game. He also draws 4.5 fouls on average per game which is the best average on the team

    Lin’s toughness has been tested this season but he has responded by playing through ankle injuries for about a month now.

    Lin has been trusted to play alongside Kemba and Batum late in games. Jeremy has had some huge games for the Hornets this season and has even won some games for his team. He is much more than just a bench player or a sixth man for this team. He is a versatile guard that can play a multitude of roles for Charlotte.

  • blubell
  • Arsenium12 .

    It’s funny how all of them have Jeremy’s hairstyle.

  • Yascar

    Well this is it right there. The NBA is quite happy to use Lin’s ethnicity and popularity to promote themselves then everyone cries foul when fan votes for Jeremy are high.

    I mean, they encourage fans to vote for their favorite. Then they backtrack and say “oh no only the ones that deserve to go should go to our almighty best of the best all star game.”

    They are trying to have their cake and eat it too. And Jeremy, because of who he is and what he represents, is caught in the middle through no fault of his own.

    I would rather that Jeremy become an All Star through merit – for me, the ultimate would be if the coaches chose him too. But no one – not coaches, fellow players and fans – can question Jeremy’s inclusion if he gets in through fan voting. Jeremy has had enough discrimination as it is. It is not fair to single him out at every turn because the NBA itself set it up that way. If they change the rules then fine. But until then, everyone in that league should shut up about it already.

  • Uh-Oh

    Khuang is right this time!
    What an annoying troll who’s posts are still here and the rules don’t apply to this troll. Pfff…

  • blubell

    Which answers who the real hero is for this little guy 🙂

  • DX

    Like triplets 🙂

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    an undersized one trick pony; i.e.

  • JoeTeam

    If he weren’t singlehandedly causing the demise of a team of good young men, I’d almost like the guy with that lovely smile.

  • LAJane

    Well yes, and I guess why not. Still…fun for YOU. Don’t forget what you said first, dude, ’cause it’s your only hope of really growing into those big shoes you want to wear: “I’m a little upset actually. I made all the mistakes that kept these guys in the game.”

  • LinMad

    must have been filmed in a green room

  • LinMad

    im curious how many votes did Kemba get for ASG

  • LinMad

    I honestly feel that the NBA rigged Lin’s vote. He should have more than that. In preseason, we saw the Lin fans at that China stadium. How many fans fit in there? 50,000? If half of them voted everyday like we did Lin would probably be top 3 by now. And that’s not even entire China and Taiwan and other Asian countries.

  • TK Wong

    great observation

  • Promo Sports World

    With MKG coming back we will see how Coach plays Jeremy in terms of minutes.

    Now I see the losers here as being: Hairston and Marvin but with Batum playing more shooting guard Jeremy could lose 5-6 mins a game…

    Or

    Hornets go super small with MKG playing the 4 or 5 ala Draymond green sans the jump shot of course

    Hoping cliff stays true to Jeremy and will give him a fair shot to be still used as strong contributor to the team

  • blubell

    I didn’t know there are 3 versions of this…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhjm8vZ56_4

  • John Focker

    Son Goku…obviously. LOL

  • John Focker

    February 18 3PM ET.

  • Acbc

    There is no point with arguing against people who want to see the glass half empty. You and I want to see Lin at his max potential. These people want to believe Lin as the numbers he’s produced. It doesn’t matter to them how or why that happened, how Lawson was the proof of how they managed to artificially suporessed Lin’s numbers. Yes we know Lin has been marginalized and made to look ordinary, but they just see that Lin is now ordinary. All we can do is wait for next year when Lin reunites with MDA and create history again.

  • John Focker

    I liked the last one with the spinning rice bowls! Kind of sucks that Lin, being the only guy with Chinese descent, didn’t get more line(s) for…the CHINESE NEW YEAR!

  • grover chang

    Tough schedule for OKC. Playing in Denver tonight, then fly out to Charlotte to play Hornets tomorrow night. Those guys will be gassed. Should be an easy win for Walker and company. Walker should own Westbrook tomorrow.

  • your son’s voltaire

    harden cookin it even off court

  • BobbyH

    Wait until 4Q.

  • sws94

    OKC against Hornets is a home game for OKC.

  • donsmacau

    Not sure if your post is meant to be sarcastic…

    OKC has beat the Hornets 10 games in a row most of them blowouts.
    OKC saw what Kemba did and will be prepared.
    Kemba thinks he’s on a roll, hot streak – most likely they will shut Kemba down. Prepare to see Kemba have a franchise record again of BA (Blocks Against)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Among all, I like the third one the best:-) Cute cute JLin anyday anytime:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Can’t agree more. All JLin fans that really supports JLin are very disgusted about NBA. Many of us only watch NBA because of JLin. Once JLin is out of NBA, I’m gone for good. Meanwhile I will continue to support JLin in whatever and whichever that I can.

  • LAJane

    lol

  • grover chang

    Are you referring to a 4th quarter comeback like this one 3 years ago by Lin to Win the game. Although Lin at that time had better bigs in DMO and Asik. The bearded guy next to him wasn’t bad either for 40+ points.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    With the support of Hornets organization all out, he is not in top 10 and no support from Hornets, JLin is in top 10 despite of how dirty NBA is. That says all how I feel about Hornets and NBA.

  • Rick Johnson

    linspiredinca‏@linspiredinca

    @JLin7 baby bro Joseph @Joelinsta now with Mohawk also.

    https://twitter.com/linspiredinca/status/689671261320908801

  • such a good game. his shot there was pretty good and fast. i really hope his new form finally kicks in and that it is indeed an improvement.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Put away your Wishkey. You had a little more than you should.

  • JoeTeam

    While we are waiting for tomorra (that’s Aussie for tomorrow), here’s a nice vid from Coach Nick.

    It furthers the discussion on hop vs 1-2 that we had over the past week. It also highlights just how good GSW and Clips coaching is vs CHA.

    Some of you who know x’s and o’s may be able to help me understand what CHA are doing, but just on the face of it, I agree with everyone who sees a lack of this sort of stuff – there’s nothing like this set up for JLin, and with Kemba only maybe using one screen and then freelancing from there, I don’t see how CHA can compete over the long haul.

    Am I mssing something guys/gals? If I’m not, can we please stop knocking JLin here about being passive, bad shot, not enough shots, etc etc? I mean, he’s just not on a well coached team, because they do have good enough talent to do a LOT better. The physical mistakes we take with the territory. The mental and team mistakes – that’s on coaching staff.

    Another thing we can do to clean up this site is to actually take some of the highlight vids and start our opinions around those as vid we can all refer to. That way, we all learn a bit more and we can stop the trolls faster without disagreement around the facts that are easy to see by everyone. It really helps with people like Occupatio and TTNN breakdown the plays with their opinions. It’s advancing us even as this team takes us back. Let’s make this a knowledgeable bball fan site too, in addition to being positive.

  • tom

    Not at all
    OKC is just too good for CHA

  • JoeTeam

    every Asian in sports now needs 4″ height adjustment, how smart of JLin to create this ‘don’t touch me’ Force.

  • KHuang

    Y’know, sophisticated basketball analysis like what you did is BEYOND THE SCOPE of most basketball fans including Lin fans.

    So we all just have to live with varying levels of expertise in terms of fan opinions of Lin.

    Personally, I love Steve Clifford’s plays. Too bad the Hornets with Kemba REFUSE to run them. It isn’t that Walker cannot run the plays, it’s that he doesn’t want any of his teammates to score more than him. Even Nicholas Batum is now being frozen out.

    Lin’s done as much as anybody humanly could under extremely limited freezout conditions. My opinion is deeply unpopular among both Lin fans and Lin haters alike, but I know enough x’s and o’s to fully recognize and even predict what’s happening.

  • JoeTeam

    YES, I agree about Lin having done his best. The beautiful part is, he keeps improving his game each week in this system. I am hoping to SEE some of those sets you refer to, that Cliff has but KW won’t execute. I think CHA needs them to win and get back to top 8.

    If we can create a culture here where we value BBIQ, then people here will rise to the community.

    Because I have never played coached bball, I rely on what I’m good at. So, I look at the structure of the game, the team flows, and what a few possessions do in context with game challenges. In that way, I can see how when JLin gets PG, he’s puzzling through it and also in that way, I’m bitterly disappointed when the rock is taken from him right when the momentum is building. And, I am never mad at him when he doesn’t choose to shoot because I know he’s there trying to figure out how to string stops and get team points to catch up or pull away. I do however share cringe moments when Lin misfires, I’m human.

    When I played gym ball, I was not the best on the court, but I could put 2 and 2 together to keep the team’s intensity up to win most times, because I tracked how we did as a group. I think that’s what JLin does way better than any of us, and also others who are PG.

    That’s not so sophisticated, it just asks us all to understand this is a team game of streaks, ebbs and flows, and a great coach has a lot to do with how an indiv or a team does. And it asks us to talk about things here that are more what the good players experience, rather than keep harping about each outing and how the box scores aren’t good enough.

    That said, I am really wondering … what is GSW going to do with Luke? I mean, for sure he’s gone at the end of this season if something isn’t done to keep him. Maybe Kerr and Luke will be co-coaches LOL.

  • John Focker

    While I don’t claim to have expert level understanding of advanced analyses, I DID notice a glimpse of Clifford’s system in the preseason (sans politics), hence the upvote. 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    Do tell do tell … what can he do to reign in this loss machine?

  • John Focker

    Go go Iblock…er, I mean Ibaka!

  • KHuang

    You’re still operating at a basketball level of intelligence that is too high for even most NBA head coaches to understand.

    Thus it is IMPOSSIBLE to improve on the culture here. This forum is already as smart and as well read and as thoroughly moderated as a NBA forum could humanly be.

    I see what Clifford’s offense is supposed to look like. If Walker weren’t there, Clifford’s offense looks like a cross between Byron Scott’s Princeton offense (the actual Princeton that Lin was wonderfully running in Lakers preseason, not the ugly iso crap that Scott did in the regular season) and the Spurs flex cutting system with its baseline and north south sideline motion.

    When Lin is running the PG, Lin’s teammates cut in and out as he advances the ball upcourt. Then Lin curls around high screens that randomly come up high (the Princeton component) while looking for baseline cutters (the Spurs flex). So far, the only team that has successfully slowed (not stopped) Lin’s bench with Lin at PG was Memphis whose dirty players grab and shove Charlotte’s players as they screen and cut. And Memphis lost anyway.

    Lin makes any system work, including Clifford’s fancy but intuitive system. Too bad Walker and Batum and Jefferson refuse to run it.

    As far as Kerr and Walton go, I really don’t think it matters who coaches the Warriors. They simply have too much firepower, especially off the bench.

  • JoeTeam

    Another thing about Coach Nick: Notice how he’s now offering incentives in the NBA app for game tix at $10 off (code = COACH)? With 250k followers, I’m surprised it makes a dent for the NBA. Maybe it’s a standard affiliate program.

    This is good news for Coach Nick, as I think he mostly has great breakdowns. I’ve been disappointed in him not following and supporting Lin, esp with the easy-to-refute false narratives that have been proven wrong over time in many ways. Maybe to get into institutional bball and be able to be in that affiliate community, he has to be conservative. Too bad.

  • sport

    You can certainly add all 3 present/past Suns PGs. Bledsoe, Dragic, and Isisah Thomas all are jealous and dislikes Lin! Remember how Bledsoe pushed Lin even after the foul and Lin stared him down? If it was any other player pushed like that, he would’ve gotten in Bledsoe’s face for sure and Technicals would’ve been given to both players! Remember how Dragic or his brother said he should be in the All Star and said Lin got votes because of his race? Whenever Lin sees these 3 PGs he should definitely make it a point to embarrass and out score them!

  • KHuang

    There is a realistic way that won’t work that well, and then there is an unrealistic way that will work great.

    Realistic way: ABANDON the Clifford offense entirely and just do selfish loser isoball all game like the Lakers do under Byron Scott. That might win one game out of every four. You’d have to eject Lin off the team to fully play iso, and Walker and Batum would be thrilled with Lin being kicked out. So would I.

    Unrealistic: any coaching strategy by Clifford to force the team to run his plays.

  • KHuang

    I can’t say that I’ve agreed with much Coach Nick has said over the years.

  • KHuang

    You also got to see it in the Atlanta game.

    That is the ONLY time this entire regular season that the Charlotte Hornets fully obeyed Clifford’s coaching.

  • sport

    If JLin was averaging 20+ PPG or 30+ PPG like Curry I’m sure his votes won’t be questioned but Lin’s playing as a backup PG and only averaging 12 PPG which is very low. All stars needs to have high stats or high stats in history like Kobe who’s about to retire. It’s really up to Lin to not be so stubborn, change his mindset about the game, and really look to score every chance he gets!

  • JoeTeam

    Now you are operating at a BBIQ level well above mine 🙂 !!! but I can see your point. I hope you will point out highlight plays for me as it comes down the pike, so I can really understand what you say and we can up our knowledge here.

    On Lin, ok, so you are saying watch his PG stretches and that is the true CHA system. Got it. I’ve been noticing some good off ball and ball movement when he has a few series, and I was wondering if that’s basic or sophisticated. I’ll watch for this in future games where Lin gets more minutes as PG. Last game, I felt there wasn’t enough, except those very few key PG moments in the 2 OTs. I’ll rewatch those.

    You’ve always been v welcoming of newbies on any forum I’ve read you in, and I think it’s easy to create a culture where people feel welcomed to learn from each other without having to get into arguments that mean we need to have false authority on our posts. That sort of grinds is down, so I’ll start with … let me learn from you and everyone.

    On GSW bench, I would prefer to see JLin replace Barbosa and Clark. I know I know … not enough minutes. Just being selfish … and wanting a ring for Lin like yesterday.

  • John Focker

    If the theory of Hornets seeking Kemba/Hayward trade holds any water, they will continue to let Kemba run amok until either the trade or the trade deadline.

  • JoeTeam

    Ah, good call. What can I say in return? I hope for unrealistic outcomes ? lol.

  • JoeTeam

    I hope it is a real strategy else we are in for over 40 games of ups and downs.

  • markie_kram

    lol at hardens defense

  • sport

    They love whoever can score the best or are hot favorites so of course they love Curry, Lebron, and used to love D Rose the most (probably not anymore).

  • JoeTeam

    Well, ok. He seems to know what he’s saying. I have no clue so I can’t tell who’s great from who’s not. Maybe Coach Nick is easy to listen to. Some folks have linked coaching vids that are just unwatchable (bad sound, rambling, etc.)

  • JoeTeam

    oh yeah, I forgot to mention that, I smiled a lot as a lin fan in seeing that.

  • KHuang

    Actually, I’ve been OK with Harden’s defense this season.

    Coach Jon Blair Bickerstaff has BASHED Harden into defending.

    When Harden doesn’t defend or play hard, Bickerstaff taunts the Rockets (and thus Harden) as “not having respect for the game”. It’s a working strategy.

  • John Focker

    Yeah, but only because MJ spoke. Plus it only lasted all but one game. How sad.

  • John Focker

    Personally, I’ve secretly wished that McHale and BS would stay with Rox and Lakers forever. They’ve both done great damage to Jeremy’s career and deserve to rot.

  • John Focker

    We’re now at the altitude of 36,000 ft. Passengers may now unbuckle their seatbelts. LOL

  • John Focker

    Which is why I’m not sorry to see Bledsoe hurt, Dragic marginalized by Wade, and IT lagging behind Jeremy in ASG votes. Karma may not always be punctual, but it never stands anyone up.

  • KHuang

    A critical basketball textbook for me is the “NBA Coaches Playbook” that diagrams plays and strategies.

    Each chapter is authored by a NBA coach. For example, Phil Jackson wrote a chapter on the triangle offense that makes the triangle very easy to run and understand.

    Lin does CLASSIC textbook cuts right out of the NBA Coaches Playbook. It’s why Clifford plays him and not Lamb or Batum. Only Lin has enough SG skill to run the sets as diagrammed.

    Lin’s TEXTBOOK skills are not understood even by the majority of Lin fans and certainly not by NBA head coaches who have stunned me with their lack of knowledge. Lin fans don’t realize how gifted Lin is to be able to run both 1 and 2 action with equal proficiency. In today’s watered down early entry NBA, there are too many players like Walker who can’t even run plays from the 1 let alone from the 2

    This incredible playrunning that Lin does would make him a POOR FIT for Golden State. Lin’s intelligent cuts and screens would mess up the Curry Thompson shooting hierarchy, thus blowing up the team .

  • John Focker

    In reality he’s playing backup SG who regularly gets frozen out.

  • KHuang

    You’re actually more knowledgeable about basketball than Coach Nick is.

  • sws94

    He isn’t looking to score that much. As a starting PG, his PPG may not be that much different. Maybe 14 PPG, maybe 15, not much more. And in some offenses, the assists are shared. So Lin in a PG-centric offense racks up the assists, but not in a shared assists offense.

  • KHuang

    No, I’m not operating at a level above you.

    One thing to understand is this:

    Just because Lin catches the ball on the perimeter and gets an assist for another player doesn’t mean he’s “playing point guard”.

    If Lin were truly playing point guard, he’d be orchestrating the offense and not simply taking advantage to the few shots Walker and Batum grant Lin. We do see Lin doing that early in the 2nd quarter and throughout the 4th.

  • sws94

    Yes, KHuang, until they go rogue. With Lin running the offense, unfortunately, Lamb and Hawes go rogue. And Batum is in there now more too compromising the “directional” aspect of it. However, Lin wants someone like Batum in there to stabilize it. But I like Marv more as he helps Lin keep guys in order. Frank is beginning to go rogue also. I think that’s why BF1, even when it is together, doesn’t look like it did earlier when Lamb, Frank didn’t try to do too much. In the last game Lin got smart and made plays for Frank. That’s when Frank looked his best.

    Hawes is actually a decent passer. But anything else he tries to do is truly ugly. If the guys don’t go rogue, Cliff’s offense isn’t bad at all.

  • TTNN

    the first game Batum was out, Lin got 35 pt game was not bad either there.

  • John Focker

    With Kemba doing what he’s doing, it’s hard for things NOT to spin out of control and turn into “every man for himself” situation. Can’t completely blame the guys for going rogue.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, there is not room on GSW for JLin on the first team. There’s also no room on GSW for Kevin Durant, that rumor being around. Just like you say, it would wreak havoc in the shooting hierarchy.

    I am looking at it like this – if he has to be on 2nd unit, why not be on the team that whups CLE every time?

    Right now, GSW needs Curry and KT to create separation, because Livingston, Iggy, and others on 2nd unit cannot generate the drive to spread the lead or claw back. But anyway, it’s just pipe dream because the stars would have had to align already.

  • John Focker

    …which led to Kemba freezing Lin out even more afterwards. smh

  • JoeTeam

    Yup, that’s what I mean when I say I watch his PG, those shifts where he’s in control. Weirdly, he doesn’t get those possessions consistently because sometimes, Cliff messes with it and puts KW back in well before JLin establishes some flow.

  • sws94

    I meant the times where Kemba is off. Usually, Lin comes on and Kemba plays with him a few minutes, then Kemba sits and Lin gets to run the team. Usually Batum will come in after a few minutes. This is when there is a 2nd unit, in a lot of games there wasn’t one. And not when Roberts comes in because they let him run point and Lin plays the “Batum” role.

  • JoeTeam

    Marv! elous. Agree totally with your post. Frank … they all get it from the Kemba fever.

  • JoeTeam

    so I see the patterns too, in rotations, and that’s what’s got me confused. What does Cliff mean by doing all this? He’s losing and it’s too late to be experimenting. He has plenty of tape, a whole staff …

  • sws94

    He seems to have this idea of having 2 of Kemba, Batum and Lin on the floor at all times, 3 to close games. I have no idea why he ever plays Roberts. He makes a nice play every once in a blue moon, I’d rather go with Daniels for short stints.

  • JoeTeam

    While my ego wants to accept this with grace, I know that is not true. I will however stand up to say if there is a team, I’m likely to be a good contributor. Thanks bro, now let’s go back to hacking each other lol.

    Speaking of that, what did you think of LeBron last night leading the anger train by slamming Steph to the wood. Then Mozkov dove on Steph’s knees and acted all innocent. Finally, JR body shots Barnes, and is ejected. CLE my goodness …

  • sws94

    Cliff breaks flows. It’s like it’s predetermined sometimes when guys will come in. I’ve seen Lin get into a flow and then come out. Other guys too. That’s one of the many areas Cliff needs to improve in.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, I recall Roberts had one respectable game, but Daniels has that ability to close gaps or spread leads with his v good 3 (if he doesn’t try to do too much too).

  • JoeTeam

    So are you saying he keeps his pre game plan pretty much on point? BTW, I like your posts too, I think we disagreed here and there but you talk bball and I like it!

  • sws94

    Not Kuang but LeBron looks intimidated and scared by GSW. He knows he doesn’t have that great a team and they are no contest for GSW. They aren’t for the Spurs either.

    LeBron at heart is probably not a punk. He’s just resorting to trying to thug because he has no defense to GSW.

  • sws94

    Yeah, probably much of it. Thanks, JoeTeam. I like your posts as well.

  • sws94

    Kemba scored 27 in that game. They worked together well…for that game. Kemba’s freezing out is just Kemba being Kemba. He actually gave Lin the ball in one of the OTs to run the play in the last game. Ended up in what should have been an and-1 to Cody but he didn’t finish of course. But he did knock down the FTs.

  • Brewkowski

    You know what, you’re right about hornets being more biting than last year’s lakers. Didn’t think of it but I agree.

  • JoeTeam

    Yeah, I don’t think LeBron is a bad guy, he just needs to take a step back and assess what his legacy will be now that the young guys coming up have created a strong river where he’s no longer in command. He can do it, he has the skills and years left. He has to start talking humbly to start. Here’s what Love said, and the article says Love’s body language is not as harsh as his words seem to indicate:

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-love-lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-golden-state-warriors-011916

  • JoeTeam

    Dang, yet another book I owe to my education.

  • This tweet exchange by Rudy Gobert (Jazz) and Nikola Vujecic (Magic) is very interesting.
    Who is Gobert thinking about being a stat-hog but hurts the team?
    It was today at 6:51pm and Utah didn’t play a game today.

    @rudygobert27
    You can have good stats but hurt your team… numbers do lie sometimes. #onlypeoplethatknowthegameunderstandthat

    NikolaVucevic
    @rudygobert27 I think you should tell us who you’re talking about like a real man would

    ‏@rudygobert27
    @NikolaVucevic Your teammate i think he had that ugly ponytail

    https://twitter.com/NikolaVucevic/status/689658058864246784

  • sws94

    It’s unprofessional for both of these guys to be doing a public back and forth. I agree with what he says, just not going about it this way.

  • I think they’re friends and joked around (Gobert made a friendly dig on his Eurocup teammate Fournier)

    But he might be referring to Hassan Whiteside who had good stats in a Heat loss vs the Bucks 79-91
    Hassan Whiteside MIA 23 PTS, 18 REB, 1 AST

  • fatbob

    meh, it is one game and the cavs are a really good team. Don’t know what happened, but it doesn’t mean anything

  • Nice stats of JLin +50 vs Isaiah Thomas -8 in a head-to-head games since 2012

    https://twitter.com/TeddyAndJohanna/status/689586558672834560

  • fatbob

    hornets are @okc, so there goes your theory

  • Spot

    Take that, Thomas

  • I cry at this fact that Suns lone win in 15 games was against the Hornets, while they lost to non-playoff teams (Lakers/76ers/Wolves/Nuggets) :[

    https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/689683010623504384

  • sws94

    OK, didn’t know they were joking around.

  • sws94

    Everything is fast there. His first step speed is noticeable. I hope Lin’s ankle fully heals after the ASB. He also needs to shoot better. Here his jumper is working.

  • sport

    I disagree, you like selling Lin short all the time! As backup SG with limited minutes, he’s already at 12 PPG, with 35mins and starter PG Lin would be averaging 20+ points without question! Just hope MDA reunion will bring out Lins true star PG stats!

  • james brown

    LOL!!!!! served “IT” well.

  • james brown

    but “IT” isn’t…its a disgrace to call out a player who doesn’t even pose a harm against him.

  • Warren

    Watch: Jeremy Lin, Stephen Curry, James Harden Star In Chinese New Year TV Spot
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/watch-jeremy-lin-stephen-curry-james-harden-star-chinese-new-year-tv-spot-2353580.html

  • adele

    True. Thank you. Just want to make them see the reason but with these kind of people, maybe it’s a waste of time and energy.

  • adele

    If Kemba will not be voted by the coaches for the all star, they might trade him. If he will be voted, they will hold on to him. Hornets is hungry for a star in their franchise.

  • deesee5

    If Cliff truly want’s to win more, why don’t he bench the players for disobeying him? Take control of the situation, I mean. What they were doing worked against Atlanta. Besides, if Cliff benched Kemba for example, i’m sure Lin would do fine running the show, playing right, and leading to victory, right? He’s gonna want to do this because all this losing will eventually cost him his job, in which I heard was in jeopardy at one point.

  • deesee5

    MJ needs to speak again. Scream at their faces. Punch em in the eye like he did to Kerr. That’ll teach em!

  • your son’s voltaire

    i think he’s referring to Kemba haha

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is some info on the NBA Coaches Playbook. This title was mentioned in a thread below by KHuang. It’s available through Amazon. Mike D’Antoni has a chapter.

    See : http://www.amazon.com/NBA-Coaches-Playbook-Techniques-Teaching/dp/0736063552

    __________

    NBA Coaches Playbook
    Techniques, Tactics, and Teaching Points
    By National Basketball Coaches Association

    Short Description : Great coaching improves and adds dimension to any player’s game. NBA Coaches Playbook combines tips and strategies from some of the NBA’s top coaches: Phil Jackson, Mike D’Antoni, Mike Dunleavy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and many others so you can use their knowledge to help your own players and team improve and achieve greater success on the court.

    Contents

    Part I: Individual Offense

    Chapter 1. Shooting Techniques / Hal Wissel
    Chapter 2. Perimeter Moves / Stan Van Gundy
    Chapter 3. Post Moves / Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    Chapter 4. Screens and Screen Plays / Phil Johnson

    Part II: Team Offense

    Chapter 5. Attacking Offense / Avery Johnson
    Chapter 6. Triangle Offense / Phil Jackson and Tex Winter
    Chapter 7. Princeton Offense / Eddie Jordan and Pete Carril
    Chapter 8. Flex Offense / Ruben Magnano

    Part III: Fast Break

    Chapter 9. Fast-Break Principles / George Karl and Doug Moe
    Chapter 10. Primary and Secondary Breaks / Mike D’Antoni, Alvin Gentry, and Marc Iavaroni

    Part IV: Special Plays

    Chapter 11. High-Percentage Plays / Lionel Hollins
    Chapter 12. Out-of-Bounds Plays / Brendan Malone
    Chapter 13. Last-Second Scoring Plays / Dave Wohl

    Part V: Individual and Team Defense

    Chapter 14. On-the-Ball Pressure / Mike Fratello
    Chapter 15. Full-Court Pressure / Jim O’Brien
    Chapter 16. Defensive Strategies / Del Harris

    Part VI: Coaching Essentials

    Chapter 17. Productive Practices / Lawrence Frank
    Chapter 18. Game Preparation / Mike Dunleavy and Jim Eyen
    Chapter 19. Player Development / Kevin Eastman
    Chapter 20. Player and Coach Motivation / Scott Skiles and John Bach
    Chapter 21. Modern Conditioning Methods / Rich Dalatri

  • heart

    @psalm234:disqusand Mods, I have an old comment in pending since yesterday. Please release the pending. Thank you.

  • heart

    Thank you. The comment is still in pending after I correct a grammar. Please check again. Thanks.

  • Maknusia

    most likely the entired chain of replies had been disapproved, hence your comments had gone together

  • heart

    Yesterday, you released it once and it was ok. Then once I corrected a grammar, then it was put on hold again. Is there a way to release it again? Thank you.

  • Maknusia

    you can check again..as i said…that thread had been unapproved, hence chances of yours going MIA is highly likely…thats disqus’s behavior

  • heart

    OK. Then it’s not my comment then. Thanks. It still shows “Pending” though.

  • Acbc

    Clifford appears to runs a 4 out, 1 post motion offence that’s suppose to open up the middle for PNR plays. The problem is that the QB of this offence is always running a quarterback draw and not using his running backs or wide receivers. The system sets up nicely for a true PG/QB to PNR and either attack the rim or kick out to the 4 guys set to shoot in the perimeter. I haven’t seen any “hammer” plays set for SG for an easy open 3. Why? Because kW keeps calling his own number.

  • heart

    So true. Lin is playing as SG yet has not received many passes from KW the PG.

  • KHuang

    I’ve read that book from cover to cover, looking at all the plays.

    That was long before Lin even entered the NBA.

    The information in that book is not entirely current, but I’d say about 85% of the book is still utilized today.

    Keep in mind that today’s NBA players who almost are universally early entrant youngsters who hardly played in college are INCAPABLE of running these plays. Guys like Lin and Hansbrough and Kaminsky and Lamb who can actually run a play all the way through with all the options done are shockingly rare. Usually guys that can do that have names like “Curry” or “Duncan”, which is where Lin and those guys would be if they were allowed to play their games.

    I’ve long said that if I could invent a perfect point guard that sprung right out of the NBA Coaches’ Playbook, it would be Jeremy Lin and nobody else.

  • KHuang

    On the other forum, there’s a FLAME WAR going on about how trolls are crowing that this statistic is “not real”.

  • KHuang

    The Hornets rarely run Clifford’s offense.

    Batum and Walker are strictly low IQ iso players.

    In a misguided and suicidal attempt to please those two wannabe stars, Clifford is ABANDONING his own playcalling to appease them. The result is losing, losing, and more losing.

    Clifford will find out that sticking with Walker and Batum will put his job in jeopardy THIS season.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Thanks for the added perspective, KHuang.

  • KHuang

    Now when it comes to individual basketball skills, this is the ULTIMATE video for Lin fans to watch:

    For Lin fans who haven’t watched basketball 30 years ago, Red Auerbach is the legendary Boston Celtics coach and president who was the NBA’s biggest influence in the 20th century.

    Auerbach’s favorite player was Hall of Famer Larry Bird, and Bird stars in this video.

    Lin fans seeking to learn how the game should be played should watch this video in its entirety. Lin does pretty much everything in this video, other than Bird’s side shooting unorthodox shot that Lin actually learned from Lin’s father. Bird’s shooting form is used by all time greats like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Adrian Dantley, and Lin during Linsanity.

    Last season with the Lakers, Lin shot the Bird form because Lin was kinda banged up at the end of the season. That’s what resulted in Lin’s whopping 19 PER.

    As of late, Lin’s been returning to that Larry Bird Michael Jordan shot form with BRILLIANT results.

  • donsmacau

    Realize that Clifford has NO PLAYCALLING, never has and never will have.

    Clifford has his offensive sets that he throws out there and hopes the players make smart decisions — THAT is all Clifford has ever had.

    Clifford DOES NOT run specific plays, one reason he has so much DIFFICULTY getting the ball inbounds. Most Clifford says is “let’s get the ball to X” and then a player might run a simple pick to try to get that person open — THAT is all.

    Clifford is probably one the worst offensive minds in the NBA at this time.

  • KHuang

    You’re welcome.

    In the NBA, there are TONS of guys who have the physical ability to play in the league. Every year, there are more players with NBA physical ability than there are draft spots or even NBA roster spots.

    But guys that can CORRECTLY RUN PLAYS UNDER PRESSURE? You literally can count them on one hand, and you’re lucky if you even can do it with one finger in most draft years.

    So when Lin came around with his blatantly obvious NBA physical ELITE ability AND his blatantly obvious playrunning skills, I proclaimed him a “can’t miss” in 2012 before Linsanity much to the lasting anger of the anti Lin hate trolls that STILL want him out of the NBA entirely because of his race.

    What makes Lin extra special is that not only can he run plays from the 1 spot as well as or better than any point guard in today’s game, Lin can also switch to the 2 and run those plays. Now that you’re looking at that book, you can see how vastly different the 1 and 2 move. What Lin’s doing is literally like a top NBA passing quarterback switching into running back and catching full field touchdown passes. There isn’t anybody in today’s game even among the NBA All Stars that can run either the 1 or 2 equally well at an All Star level like Lin can.

  • KHuang

    In truth, Lin is playing NEITHER point guard nor shooting guard.

    Lin’s a point guard who’s not allowed to pass and a shooting guard who’s not allowed to shoot.

    Lin’s not a 1 or 2 on Charlotte. He’s a ZERO.

  • donsmacau

    In the past, JLIN seemed to always have the opportunity to let his basketball performances do the talking against blowhards like Isiah Thomas,

    Unfortunately, the way JLIN is marginalized and shut out on this team — his opportunities to let his play do the talking are severely limited.

    Good thing JLIN moving to his starting PG position for next contract.

  • KHuang

    Anytime players illegally slam each other in the NBA, it’s just GAMESMANSHIP to try to knock the winning player out of the playmaking that’s killing the slammer.

    Lin gets slammed the most out of anybody because Lin’s usually KILLING his opponents.

  • KHuang

    The Cavs are a really good team, the Warriors are a GREAT team.

    So the Cavs resort to physical violence to try to get the Warriors so angry that the Warriors won’t run their plays. But that only makes the Warriors focus more and run their plays better.

  • Maknusia

    I dont think its zero…else he would be DNPed…Numbers shows he is 4/5th option

  • KHuang

    Because Clifford mistakenly thinks that sucking up to Walker and Batum will prevent Clifford from being fired.

    Clifford will learn the hard way that if he doesn’t win because he refuses to use his good players, Clifford will be FIRED ANYWAY and Walker and Batum will be the first to be happy when Clifford leaves.

  • KHuang

    Lamb and Hawes DO NOT GO ROGUE.

    They are running the plays in the flow, and they shoot and score big ONLY when Lin’s running the offense for them to flow in. That’s why Lamb is shooting 46% at a blistering shooting pace.

    Batum is TOTALLY DESTABILIZING to Clifford’s offense. Batum cannot make good decisions (hence all the turnovers), takes the ball away from Lin selfishly, and ruins the cuts. This is why Batum STINKS when Lin’s running the bench.

    You like the iso done by Walker and Batum. But the Hornets STINK because of that iso that you like.

  • KHuang

    I totally disagree with sws94’s unquestioning admiration of Batum and utter trashing of Bench Force One, Lin included.

  • KHuang

    It’s obvious what Clifford is doing.

    He’s trying to kiss up to Walker and Batum by having them control everything, and he’ll sacrifice Lin and the entire team and the entire season to do it.

  • KHuang

    If Lin does too well, Walker and Batum get ANGRY.

    Yet Clifford cannot yank Lin off the court the way Clifford did earlier this season when Walker and Batum got angry at Linsanity. That’s because Walker and Batum have NO CHANCE AT WINNING without Lin in there with them.

    Clifford’s weakminded compromise is to play them all and hope that Lin gets frozen out while also playing bonecrushing defense and siphoning defenses away from Walker and Batum. But it’s FAILING because Walker and Batum are isoing the team to loss after loss.

  • KHuang

    Clifford has elected over the last 20 games or so to RELIEVE Lin of true playmaking duty so that the Hornets stick to the iso loser scheme.

    It’s all about playing Walker and Batum iso loser basketball, even if the Hornets can never win.

  • new OKC game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g42-cha-okc-game-thread/

    It’s another tough match on the road against the OKC Thunder who beat them handily at home 109-90

    – Both are in the opposite end of winnings streak: OKC is 8W-2L and Hornets is 2L-8W
    – OKC has 5 winning streak
    – Will the Hornets allow Kemba to be another high scorer following his 52 pts despite lacking necessary defense (allowing Trey Burke to score 9 out of 11 Jazz pts in OT2)? Or will they resort to team-ball in order to give them a better chance to win?

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s pray and hope that gets to be 100% healthy soon and will have a chance to be the playmaker to help the Hornets to win

  • KHuang

    Pose harm?

    Based on the stats, Jeremy Lin poses REAL HARM to Isaiah Thomas!

  • KHuang

    Clifford’s real offense is what we saw in preseason:

    point guard up high, big men cutting in and out from the low post to the high post, wings cutting baseline and curling around the big men.

    When Lin is running PG, this is how Bench Force One plays. And they DOMINATE.

    But the iso loserball that Kemba Walker plays? That’s simply an offense where Kemba randomly dribbles around and fires shots wildly from anywhere.

    As Walker becomes more and more selfish, he’s throwing the other guys on the team out of whack in their positioning due to his out of control dribbling and utter refusal to respect the spacing of his 4 teammates. That’s why NOBODY can get a good shot when Walker’s on the court.

    The guy suffering the most from Walker’s selfishness is NOT LIN. Lin, after all, is the absolute best in the NBA at succeeding wildly while playing off a hate filled selfish loser ballhog for the last 4 seasons. No, the guy suffering the most is NICHOLAS BATUM who’s passing and driving lanes are being totally wrecked by Walker’s out of control selfish random shufflings all over the court.

    Batum has been playing terribly for quite some time now, long before his injury. He’s being frozen out by Walker too!

    Now it’s a Walker vs Batum issue, not a Walker and Batum vs Lin and Lamb issue.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Well spoken, Huang. I agree with you 100%
    Clifford used the versatility of Lin to fill loopholes in his offense and defense. Lin does it automatically on defense and offense. When everything fails, Lin will take charge creating space and digs in for the team scoring, defending and play-making.

  • deesee5

    Lol wth. If I was Cliff, I’d think winning is more important. Winning = job security for him. If he really believes Lin can do the job, he would let him run the show. He knows he can do it HIS way because Lin would follow through. Right? The heck with Kemba, and Batum if they ain’t gonna listen and cost you the victory.

  • KHuang

    No it won’t.

    Walker and Batum don’t fear MJ at all.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It sure passes the eye test.
    From time to time, you saw Lin brokeup IT’s play, blocked his shot, stole the ball or simply took it from his hand while IT was driving to the hoop.

  • KHuang

    Roberts plays when Jeremy Lamb is injured and Lin’s needed to provide SG minutes off the bench.

    However, Clifford has started to move away from Roberts to Troy Daniels.

    Either way, the results are disastrous because Nicholas Batum who’s now the backup PG is INCAPABLE of running the offense with Roberts or Lin or Daniels at SG.

  • KHuang

    The only reason GSW can create separation with Curry (NOT Thompson) is because the REFS give Curry so much illegal dirty play that he gets away with.

    Nobody in the entire NBA slaps, shoves, trips, bumps, and holds players illegally like Stephen Curry does.

    Take all that illegal ref garbage away from Curry and we’d be looking at a frail limited weak guard who’d struggle to score 14 a game.

  • KHuang

    Great post.

  • KHuang

    More importantly than Lebron’s attitude, Lebron needs to work on his FUNDAMENTALS.

    He has to learn to be more than an iso player, albeit he is an UNSELFISH iso player.

    If Lebron had better fundamentals, the Cavs would be a stronger team.

    Coach David Blatt and even the Cavs players are moaning about the Cavs lacking fundamentals.

  • adele

    Very good analysis Khuang.

  • adele

    Thats why he concentrate on the defense. Its not that his shot is off, his position and role is not certain. This must be tough for him but still making the best out of it.

  • sws94

    I don’t agree with you that Batum’s style is ISO. Walker’s style is create his own shots, maybe ISO to a degree. Lamb certainly goes rogue. He often over dribbles and tries to create beyond his capabilities. Hawes tries to work in the post and ends up throwing what looks like a cross between a hook shot and a floater that rarely goes in.

    Batum, a lot of the time, is not holding on to the ball as long as Walker or even Lin, so that’s not ISO. ISO is isolating a matchup, an offensive player against a defensive one while everyone else looks at him. But Batum is looking mostly to pass the ball. He’ll shoot sometimes,. But I can’t say he’s shoot first. I find him looking to pass to Cody or a big man, and sometimes not connecting and turning the ball over on bad passes. And I also think Lin approves of Batum in the 2nd unit and working off of him.

  • sws94

    He seems an alternate to me. He’s an alternate facilitator for when defenses load up on Nic or Kemba, or a go-through in terms of we’re covered, give it to Lin, he’ll give it back to us. Sometimes, he’s featured briefly. But just sometimes. He’s a guard and a defensive presence asked to guard the toughest man close to his size, or much taller as evidenced in recent games. I think Clifford likes that he draws a lot of moving pick foul/TOs/penalties. That’s very useful for late-quarter/game situations. He’s also good at drawing charges.

  • grover chang

    What is more insane to me about catering to Walker is nationally no one cares. Maybe… I mean a strong maybe the casual Hornet fan cares about Walker. But nationally the regular nba fan does not know who walker is. I hear people in conversation occ still say Charlotte Bobcats. That is how out of tune people are with Charlotte.

    Before Lin, did many of us closely follow the hornets? Why cater to Walker when he isn’t a star. Ironically the most recognized name on the hornets that people know is MICHAEL JORDAN (but he is reitred) the second most recognized name is JEREMY LIN (but he is on the bench).

  • deesee5

    Charlotte is a boring city. Not a lot of people there, or any casual NBA fan cares about that team. Check this list out. They have the “lowest fan base”. http://fantasysportsadvice.sportsblog.com/posts/1250762/nba__ranking_all_30_nba_teams_by_fan_base.html

  • deesee5

    After looking through that list i’m surprised Portland got 3. The city itself got some awesome fans, but nationally I dont think they’re as popular. I would think NYK is above them. NYK is a big market team. LAL, Bulls, Knicks, Celtics are the most universally popular teams in my eye. The least is def Charlotte. That I can agree with! Lol

  • JoeTeam

    I relate to what you post by reacting badly to comments about him ‘taking the team on his back.” I think he does too much of that, and if he can’t have a balanced team, he won’t ascent to the top that he so desires. Maybe CLE just needs to get a stronger set of contributors and coaching staff, dunno and don’t really follow it.

  • JoeTeam

    aw, I can’t go with that, I love Curry so more power to him if there exists an idea of superstar calls.

  • JoeTeam

    this seems true.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, he’s trying to win with Lin doing servant work for the planned stars, or the ones who demand special treatment above their skills, performance.

  • JoeTeam

    I didn’t get he loves Batum. I will look out for unfair admiration ha ha.