Hornets Outlasted the Kings in 2OT; Lin Scored Double-Double

The Hornets outlasted the Kings and Damarcus Cousins in 2OT 129-128

  • Jeremy Lin finished with 20pts, 11asts, 7 rebs in 50 min, possibly the longest minutes he ever played in a game. He scored double-double with the highest number of assists as a Hornets this season.
  • With all legs tired, Lin inbounded to a Troy Daniels who launched a deep 3 giving Lin his 11th assist.
  • Troy finished with a career high 28pts/7rebs with 8-11 3pt shooting, coming up clutch in the last seconds.
  • Damarcus Cousins was unstoppable scoring 56 pts but fouled out in the 2OT period

MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 46 vs UTA
  • blubell
  • DX

    2rd, Lin played 50 minutes. Wow

  • NONONO

    happy to be 2nd today

  • stam

    I still count 2-3 phantom calls on Lin/

  • DX

    Sorry, brzone award for you.

  • Ben Johnson

    “Troy Daniels, howdoyadooooo!”

  • blubell
  • Ben Johnson

    Oh the bench, JLamb must be thinking “oh S!@%, my minutes are gonna go down even more, ugh…

  • Gotta love how cool Troy looked after draining a deep 3..
    “Leave me alone.. I can do this all day long” =D

  • NONONO

    still happy – for Lin and Lin fans

  • Briiick

    Lin tries hard to find the bright spots of his teammates if he is allowed to facilitate, too bad.

  • wandertheglobe

    Lin: Troy, I made you famous once. This time I’m going to make you some money on your next contract.

  • He’s there to stay =)
    Lin can get lots of assists off him for sure

  • nodomo

    Since Hornets have back-to-back game, we won’t get to hear from Cliff why Kemba didn’t run the right play after Daniels put it out there for the world to hear

  • nodomo

    So many Lin highlights tonight it might be a while for video to show up. Lin had some BEAUTIFUL assists earlier in the game tonight

  • CaliUSMC

    What a stud…

  • blubell
  • wandertheglobe

    Kemba had a chance to be the hero tonight, but he choke on the FT.

  • Hope

    Q: y is kw pg of this team?

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Of all the highlighters, I’m collecting Jun Liu’s. Must be a while before s/he puts up.#HighlightsWaitingGame

  • NONONO

    Clifford is just unbelievable stubborn.

  • JoeTeam

    next game is 27th in UT, right?

  • Hope

    Almost 25/10. Let’s get that next game

  • JoeTeam

    Walt Clyde: “The should take Lin out for dinner for that …”

  • guest

    Rajon Rondo – 20 ast

  • JoeTeam

    that’s how a pro does it.

  • LinMad

    Sharing this here from the old thread:

    I just don’t like how Lin got yelled at by Cliff for that one TO while we were still ahead. Then Kemba makes a bunch of dumb plays like driving in early on the last possession in the 4th instead of running the clock down and losing the ball. And all those ISO plays that missed. Not running the play properly for Troy Daniels. He’s fine with all that but not fine with one TO by Lin? If it wasn’t for Lin…where would this team be in regards to team basketball? Would we have 5 players in double digits?

    I also don’t remember Batum getting yelled at for having 9 and 10 TO games. Looks like Lin is the scapegoat for this team.

    Also after Lin got yelled at, there was pretty much zero plays for Lin. He was iced out by Cliff.

  • Dan Ang

    Just review the last few games. He might make you mad this game but he’ll be the main component if the Hornets wants to make the Playoffs.

  • blubell

    Cousins 56 points but doesn’t mean much when you lose.

  • wandertheglobe

    Lin made Novak and Landry some doughs. He’ll do the same for Troy if he gets some floor time.

  • Alain Gervais

    Cliff yelling at Lin is like a teacher to a student. The fact that Cliff don’t correct Kemba is a bad thing

  • Barry Allen

    Now if they let Lin play PG more he will pile up the double doubles and the team will win more games.

  • Dan Ang

    Nice

  • CaliUSMC

    If you’re referring to Cliffs last post game interview about not playing as good. He was referring to Hairston.

  • NONONO

    5:4 in 2nd OT?? when was Lin’s last shot? He was iced by Clifford for 15mins

  • blubell
  • cdblue10

    Game observation:don’t resign on this team Jeremy

  • Hope

    I vote for Lin+mda any day now. Lin has no hope on this team.

  • Dan Ang

    56 points is a big deal tho. Gotta give him credit where credit is due.

  • LinMad

    oh maybe you’re right.

  • grover chang

    Tonight was a face off of the western and eastern conference players of the week, Cousins and Walker. They both scored a lot of points and they both lost.

  • Hope

    Agree!

  • wandertheglobe

    Yeah, double standard. Everyone else but Kemba.

  • John Focker

    You’re right on that Kemba’s incorrigible.

  • CaliUSMC

    Lol at first I thought he was talking about Lin too, but I replayed it and listened carefully. Either way Cliff is still a clown.

  • John Focker

    Hornets will be showcasing Kemba again, expect 25+ FGA.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Cousins was a different, much differ.

  • Alain Gervais

    no cousin played great. The kings are just bad at defense. DMC need anger management thats about it

  • Ben Johnson

    http://bkref.com/tiny/oQWAO

    In the 9 games as a starter, JLin has put up 18.44pts/4.33asts/3.44rbs
    on 58.1% TS…the only other 3 players in the league to put up these
    numbers are Curry, Durant, and Harden…

  • LinMad

    Well it’s good cause Lin learns from his mistakes and improves himself. He’s a much better defender now. I just don’t like how heated he got. I don’t see him get as heated to anyone else but Lin.

    Ya he yells at PJ sometimes but not to the point he has smoke coming out his ears like he does with Lin. And this is after the fact Lin had a double double, carrying the team on his back.

  • CaliUSMC

    It’s even more impressive when a center does it… he dominated… shaq style

  • sport

    All 3 games Lin started!

  • Epie

    So 3-0 so far with Lin starting 😛

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin always puts up stats when starting so this isn’t new.

  • zxcvb

    Cousins was elite. Walker was total garbage.

    Lucky for Charlotte, they have Jeremy Lin. Even on a sore ankle, he wins the game on both ends. Daniels, Hawes were beneficiaries tonight of Lin’s PG play (when allowed to touch the ball).

  • Hope

    With good ankle. Yes

  • DX

    1 chance? At least 3 timeshe can finish the game, but he missed.

  • blubell

    It is but the loss somewhat diminishes it. Better to win than lose when you’re having a career game.

  • Alain Gervais

    I will say if Lin ever cracks the starting Lineup in charlotte. He will Likely average 36 minutes. Cliff really plays Lin a lot. The only coach to do that was DNA.

  • sport

    Are you high? Main chucker sure, main component? Hornets would’ve won easily with teamball and Lin as PG without Walker’s iso and chucking 28/30+ shots every game!

  • Alain Gervais

    *36

  • Barry Allen

    Cousin played very well.

    Walker was 5-25 (20% FG%). That’s not well.

  • NONONO

    i said earlier, “statistically, Kemba shot 25, Hornets lost, Lin shot 15+ Hornets won.” Today’s stats is just fun – Kemba shot 25 – Hornets was supposed to loss. But Lin shot 19, so Hornets just made it by 1 point.

  • pero_square

    Literally putting money in people’s pockets. All they have to do is buy in, give him the key, and let him drive.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol against a better team this is a lost all the way

  • LinMad

    The fact that some Hornets fans say Kemba is carrying this team on his back is ridiculous. The only one carrying this team on his back is Lin. He plays for the team. He wants you to shoot it. He wants you to get that easy bucket from him. He made Hawes look good. He made Tyler look good. He made Zeller look good. He made PJ look good. He made Troy look good. MW look good. And also Lamb (remember those alley oops?). There is a reason why so many players want to play with Lin. The ones that never got their chance/opportunity.

    He wants to take that elbow to the face for the team. He’ll take a charge from a big guy without even thinking twice.

    And he gets paid $2M only.

  • CJSHYY

    Walker almost lose this game. I really don’t like his game even he got the big number. smh!

  • DX

    Maybe if Kemba leave.

  • sport

    Let them be happy for now, once Lin’s gone Hornets will revert back to loser ball.

  • NONONO

    Kings is much better team compares to Hornets (4 starters injured)

  • LinMad

    i was about to say…16 only?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Don’t forget, King won 5,6 games straight and they beat the Clippers and Thunders.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol

  • Epie

    And ATH uses Kemba’s photo for the win thread. lol.

  • CaliUSMC

    Rondo 7pts-10rebs-20 asts. Lol.

  • Ben Johnson

    yeah, that’s pathetic…you wanna use Daniels, that’s fine…but Kemba? gimme a break

  • Alain Gervais

    Yea i meant a better defensive team

  • NONONO

    it was very bad game since 6 mins mark on 4th quarter. There was only one good play since then – Lin assisted and Troy made it in final seconds!

  • sport

    Cousin was elite, never seen him play like this before. I think having a great assisting PG in Rondo helps him a lot!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lins stats upside down lol

  • blubell

    Triple double wasted. haha.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin 7 rebound 11 assist 20 points

  • blubell

    Saw that. Anyone but Kemba would have been nice… why not Daniels?

  • sws94

    He went crazy on PJ in the prior game. It wasn’t anything major. Just the usual coach getting on a player a little. Lin is a big boy and was probably yelling at himself more than Cliff was.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    We can just LOL

  • NONONO

    true, it is very very lucky to win

  • heart

    So now we all know that KW skirted Cliff’s play and took it upon himself to be the hero for the last winning shot, but it turned out unsuccessful. I want to know the success/failure ratio rate of KW last winning shot since the beginning of the season? KW missed jumpers, 3s, layups and made critical turnovers in OTs. KW caused 2 OTs and almost lost the game. NOT once we saw Cliff yelled at him. Yet we saw Cliff yelled at Lin after one TO driving to split defense to the basket.

  • CJSHYY

    I know. Started from 3Q Lin helped the team to win then Walker came in & tried to take over the game by ISO himself ….hope to get the credit for the win. smh!

  • LinMad

    what a horrible way to celebrate a win that was all blood and sweat from the bench, role players and Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    good mention … though Rondo organized a distraction to cause Kemba to brick the winning FT, I was really glad that Sac had him in the key plays because you could see there’s not way he’s going to shoot even if he gets a nice midrange. That’s what bought CHA so much clock during those key stops. Rondo would get somewhat open and then pull back and reset the play. Whew!

  • CaliUSMC

    Rondo is just a hilarious player to me.. A few years ago, I remember watching him stealing the ball and was wide open for the free layup. But he’s such an assist w*ore that he gave it up and passed it behind him for the guy to shoot a 3. I was like really? Lol

  • Ben Johnson

    Hypothetically speaking…if JLin and the rest of the Hornets, minus Kemba, played against Kemba and the rest of the Hornets, minus Jeremy…what would be the outcome? I say that Jeremy would win 7 out of 10 times

  • sws94

    Rondo revealed a limitation. On the last play he didn’t want to take the shot himself and passed it off to Collison for a very contested shot. A more complete player, like Paul, takes that shot. Rondo is great a assists, but not a good scorer.

  • Alain Gervais

    It depends is Batum controlling the ball with kemba.

  • sport

    These last 2 games shows Lin’s on a whole new level already. Even not as PG, he’s able to make shots and assists as long as he gets touches! If he was PG for his own team imagine what his stats would look like? Lin needs a GM who will designate him as the upcoming star!

  • JoeTeam

    worried he’d brick, but I would think that’s what you gotta do esp with a good shooter.

  • leeda harun

    Wow…what a win..so tense

  • blubell

    Insecurity with his shooting.

  • sws94

    Don’t worry about the yelling. Lin played the most minutes. KW played very poorly even though his stats are good. Lin had a fantastic game. The last 2 games Lin has played great. And he looks better physically.

  • CJSHYY

    Rondo can’t shoot that’s why Collison was on for shooting.

  • CaliUSMC

    You dont understand… he was already at the free throw line.. 3 or 4 more steps.. easy lay up lol

  • Ben Johnson

    Only the 14th time this year that a player has played over 50 minutes in a game 😀

  • Alain Gervais

    wow

  • sws94

    Might not be that much different. Touches matter more than PG or SG. There were more screens set for him and he didn’t hesitate.

  • blubell

    I’m not worried but that’s not the point. We don’t really see him yelling at Kemba.

  • JoeTeam

    Yeah, I know but you see Lin and others on GSW doing the kick out to a great shooter in Curry. Lin does it because he’s organized.

  • pero_square

    Good question. 28 pts and the clutch trey.

    Franchise player ha…smh

    Kemba seems like a nice dude off the court but he really need to evolve his game and adapt to his team more.

  • sport

    That’s why no teams want Rondo and why he’s faded after Celtics Big 3 ended. PGs needs to look to score 1st like Curry to be elite! Assists don’t mean anything if you can’t score.

  • Ben Johnson

    Jeremy is 1 of 10 players this year to put up 20/11/7…most of the others are all-stars

    http://bkref.com/tiny/q6chi

  • sws94

    He went ballistic on PJ the previous game. I don’t care if he yells at Kemba. Sometimes coaches will yell at guys he knows can take it and it makes them play better. Because Cliff played Lin over 50 minutes, it shows how much he trusts him. Pop yells at all of his players, some coaches only h*** at some of them. And really, it wasn’t that bad.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    We know for a fact that Kemba has a big ego just like Hardin and KB but just he doesn’t show in person–smile and soft talk. However, I’ve stopped buying Kemba soon after the season began. His games talk the loudest!

  • CaliUSMC

    Lin’s averaging 14.6pts / 3.5asts / for the month of January. Lets gOO

  • nodomo

    if it wasn’t for a couple of bogus fouls on Lin on rebound plays, he would’ve almost had a triple double 20/11/9

  • leeda harun

    Nice..:-)

  • sws94

    He’s a terrible team mate also.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    If Jeremy plays with other Hornets players – 10 out of 10 times.
    If Jeremy plays with Daniels, Williams, and Hansbrough – 10 out of 10 times
    There might be a mutiny because other players will try to edge out Daniels,Williams and Hansbrough to play with Jeremy.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Your root for Cliff won’t buy him a cent to me. This just shows how double standard he is.

  • NONONO

    “Re: GT: Hornets @ Kings Mon Jan 25 10PM EST
    Unread post#728 » by KM6 » 7 minutes ago

    Sauce_Castillo wrote:

    Kemba probably in the locker room rn trying to convince everyone the eye poke was what won the game

    Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

    Ironically, the eye poke was the best defense Kemba played all night.”

  • Rick Johnson

    Wow:

    SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 23m23 minutes ago

    The Warriors just destroyed the Cavs, Bulls, and Spurs by 30+ Pts each in last 8 days.

    https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/691874638041911296

  • sport

    Nope because Lin plays better with ball in his hands and gets to control the offense without being iced out! In both games, Lin was iced out, if not he’d get 30+ points easily with at triple double already!

  • sws94

    He puts Lin out there, closes with him, I hear him saying great Jeremy during the game. So what if he yells at him sometimes? That’s what coaches do. Most of the time, he’s not chewing Lin out near as much as other players. And what he does with Kemba, I don’t care about. It’s not important to me. His treatment of Lin is good.

  • blubell

    Don’t care if he yells at Kemba too and not trying to make this a big deal but I wonder if Clifford holds Kemba accountable for anything. I understand he is the “captain” and the coach wants to empower him but there is a limit.

  • pero_square

    Here you go

  • LinMad

    they’re in another league

  • JoeTeam

    Dynasty …

  • heart

    It seems like everyone can see through his game that he’s just filling stat sheet. Lin was the one that got the team involved tonight, so they got their shooting stride and playing w/ confidence. KW almost lost it for everyone, SMH!

  • CJSHYY

    They will get the ring this season again.

  • sport

    If Warriors stay together they might be able to achieve 6 rings with two 3 peats!

  • sws94

    Well, I don’t know. I’m feeling great about Lin. Kemba played poorly and he sat a long time too when the 2nd unit brought the team back. I think the fact that Lin played more in this game says something.

  • CJSHYY

    I am surprised to see Spurs played so bad vs GSW.

  • CaliUSMC

  • Epie

    Wow already.. thanks!

  • sport

    Spurs are old compared to GSW and need to find younger players to lead already. Parker, Manu, and Duncan are just too old and needs to retire.

  • LinMad

    ya Kemba can be likable if he was a team basketball PG.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin is averaging 15 .6 points in 12 shots 5 assist 4 rebounds 3 % .462 fg% 458 playing 37 minutes per game

  • Alain Gervais

    last 5 games

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I know. I’ve been screaming my tops off at Cliff and Kemba soon after Kemba checked in 4th qtr. It went extremely ugly–all Kemba heroball after JLin had that last TO. I literally want Hornets to lose the game as I was sick in watching his ugly heroball. So glad that JLin helped to win the game in the last possession to Troy Daniels.

  • sws94

    Parker is much younger than Manu and Duncan. He’s not a young player but he’s not really old either.

  • leeda harun

    Thanks a lot.

  • Dan Ang

    You have to look at the big picture. Kemba was off tonight, but he’s proven that he could carry the team when they needed it. This is not a knock on Lin.

  • NONONO

    Three things I like this game #1 Lin first double double this season (under very limited plays set by the coach ), #2 Hornets win (with Lin’s final assist), #3 – the most important one – Lin elbowed Cousins (what , on Cousins???). I know it was not intentional. But some players need to think twice if they tried to intentionally hurt him again.

  • JoeTeam

    Curry actually is pretty calm, he can be hot or he can let others be hot. He just steps up whenever he needs to for the team to gain separation or come back, and he has no problem pushing the tempo even to TOVs.

  • sws94

    He wasn’t iced out in this game. Through most of regulation he was featured and played through. He got tired in the OT and Kemba played heroball, but most of the game Lin was the featured facilitator.

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    They had too many turnovers that caused the game to get away form them. Early on it was calm and you could see if SAS stayed in their game, it would be close. But, mental breakdown and GSW did their thang.

  • CaliUSMC

    I want to see a replay of that. Lin needs to throw more of those lol

  • blubell

    Thanks. Will feature this until longer or Jun Liu’s highlights come out 🙂

  • grover chang

    🙁

  • sport

    From last 2 years you can tell Parker’s old and isn’t as effective offensively anymore. I truly think Spurs needs a new young PG who can shoot 3s if they ever want to win a Championship again.

  • CaliUSMC

    Let me have my 3mins of fame.. Thanks :d

  • sws94

    They started off just as poorly as the regular starters with him. Lin turned the game around with the 2nd unit, as usual. However, in the 3rd, Lin was featured and they had a huge scoring game. Yes, Hawes got hot, but Lin just got into an assists groove.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You don’t put your head inside the traffic and expect not to be hit. Cousins knew and used to get the benefit of the whistle blown so….

  • Dan Ang

    Depends, a King’s fan would disagree. I think Cousins will sleep well with his first career 50 plus game. He just joined the 2016 50 points club with company like Curry, Butler and Kemba.

  • NONONO

    If you look his expressions, you can tell Lin was really turned on and even a bit mean during the game (before iced in OTs).

  • zxcvb

    Kemba hogging: Lin started 1-5, 2a

    Lin playing PG: Lin goes 6-8, 7a

    Kemba hogging again: Lin finishes 1-6, 2a

  • blubell

    Of course. Credit for posting within one minute of upload… that was fast!

  • sport

    Lets hope so but they all reverted to iso Kemba-ball and keep away from Lin during the end of 4th and the entire OTs after Lin made the 1st jumper in OT1. That kind of selfishness and following Kemba’s lead even though Lin helped them with the assists, teamball, and playmaking is the same as Rockets which is just sick!

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • John Focker

    KembaISO is Jeremy’s Kryptonite! LOL

  • Ben Johnson

    yeah, I mean, if JLin was playing SG next to Chris Paul or Rondo, he would be getting WAY more good looks…Kemba is like the last PG you want feeding you the ball, his court vision is extremely limited

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin has been playing like a double digit million dollar player.

    Even if with $8 mil a year it would be still a steal.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Fact, I rest my case.

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Epie

    What about this? 🙁

    https://vine.co/v/iiHd6jvJLqW

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I’m awared this isn’t this game but I’m still feeling agitated by Kemba heroball.
    https://twitter.com/ale95italy/status/690084332782915584

  • blubell
  • Alain Gervais

    Lin seemed really tired. don’t know if he had the legs for anything late.. Still would rather more of PG Lin

  • blubell
  • NONONO

    it is funny

  • sport

    Nah these stars just choose to ignore teammates and go for their own stats and iso plays!

  • CJSHYY

    This is not new… smh!

  • zxcvb

    Don’t think those guys would share with the Asian guy either, though they obviously have 1000 IQ points on Kemba.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Wow is it cold in Cali? Papa Lin seems to be wearing a thicker-than-usual jacket.

  • NONONO

    Lin’s 11 passes seem to help every teammates score.

  • blubell

    Norcal is probably cold. It was warm in SoCal.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba is such a horrible PG with no court vision at all…maybe he honestly didn’t see it.

  • Rick Johnson

    If he just held the ball Belinelli could hold it and get a jump ball. By thrashing about like that he got the foul.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! You do need down jacket. LOL!

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JoeTeam

    it’s been good, rain so overcast warms up the lands. Keeps the cold of space from coming down.

  • KHuang

    It amazes me how after every good game, the other forum is ENGULFED IN FLAME WARS with hate trolls running amok firing personal insults at Lin fans.

  • blubell

    Did the refs rob Jeremy of an assist and a steal?

  • bolero
  • zxcvb

    Should have had more, statkeeper cheated him twice.

    He basically had a bucket or assist every possession he handled the ball.

  • KHuang

    No Lin = no Troy.

    Lin with the near triple double is the MVP by far.

  • Epie

    OH wow.. looking at the last play, is it just me, it looks like traveling, glad no one caught it.

  • nodomo

    He doesn’t. When he drives, his head is always down, looking at the ground

  • KHuang

    Ironically, I’d spend LESS time there if the trolls didn’t continually try to flame me off the board.

  • Rick Johnson

    45 degree’s F in Sacramento.

  • sport

    That’s why most of us moved over to this website with mods doing their jobs 🙂

  • sws94

    He played so-called PG for Houston and was like a ball boy. Bring the ball up, pass it to Harden, or Parsons, never see it again. At least he’s having screens in place for him here. He played just like a PG. It doesn’t matter. He can get assists and points as long as he gets the ball or gets it back. And if Cliff has plays called for Lin, it doesn’t matter if he’s PG or SG.

  • Lam

    Lol , Lin fans sometimes molly coddle him too much. Clifford’s been fair to lin. He just need to get Kemba to play team ball more often else the team won’t make it to playoffs.

  • JoeTeam

    yup.

  • Ben Johnson

    Yeah KHuang, I’m done with that site, so many Trojan Trolls over there pretending to be JLin fans, it’s too much

  • sws94

    Parker is still good. He just plays differently now. 33 is much younger than 39 in basketball and sports. Serena Williams is dominating her sport. How old is she?

  • Dan Ang

    Pops keeping it OG with the suede loafers. #SWAG

  • zxcvb

    Lin was the clear MVP tonight, no contest. Troy did a great job as a pure shooter, but Lin was the reason there was a game to win. Scoring, passing, defense, intangible plays…he got guys like Troy and Hawes going with teamball.

    If anything, Hawes gets my silver medal. Anytime a 7ft center hits 3s like that, it causes havoc.

  • NONONO

    yes. he always used first 16 seconds before attack, and first 20 secs before pass

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe it was 2 asts and a steal.

  • gotta love Psycho T GIF fighting to keep the ball like a little kid LOL
    https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JIeTmLCzK9BAFX2/giphy.gif

  • IsabeliJane*17

    He needs more playing time with Jeremy to get his offensive groove moving.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol

  • zxcvb

    Can’t stop Cousins! He’s elite inside and on a tear. Hawes at least gave effort and fouled out.

  • blubell

    Classic Psycho T. Glad he is our psycho. lol.

  • Lam

    I’m beginning to think his isoing is pathological. He can’t help it! Needs to see a shrink.

  • Dan Ang

    Kid’s got heart!

  • Ben Johnson

    oh yeah, he traveled, hehe

  • zxcvb

    Need more of that energy inside and less of Kemba outside.

  • leeda harun

    A proud dad. Keep up the good work Lin

  • Spot

    OK.

  • JoeTeam

    in watching the first highlights, it’s clear I missed the real game JLin played. He really did a great job. I saw the 4th and 2 OTs, having to watch the SAS shellacking and couldn’t believe my eyes. Then I came here and the ISO by Kemba nearly hurt my eyes as much as he hurt Rudy’s. I hope Rudy is ok, … for me, Kemba ISO is worst than Harden because at least Harden sometimes shared a series. KW keeps it for himself every.single.time.

  • TTNN

    smart move so he got the foul call for him, and not get into jump ball situation.

  • Epie

    Getting my upvote for understanding the rules finally 🙂

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

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  • Alain Gervais

    every sing time. I honestly don’t remember one time he passed it in the late second but to be honest. He doest create that type of space for others like Lin does. He is usually open but really no one else. He just doesn’t have that type of skills

  • JoeTeam

    um, easy. he had about 5 seconds on that play to get the ball to Lin, who was open for about 4.8 of those seconds. If it’s that hard, he shouldn’t be a starting PG in one of 30 qualified ‘best teams’ in the world.

  • Alain Gervais

    Kemba doesn’t have the skills for that pass

  • KHuang

    I cannot.

    With my Asian screenname, I get challenged to fights and stuff.

    The trolls would do better in eliminating me if they played nice with me and let me trickle my way over here!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Missed this play. So Hansbrough did get a player to commit a foul on him.

  • JoeTeam

    Yup. tape don’t lie.

  • Alain Gervais

    He doesn’t have the skills to make that pass. He just doesn’t. He is what he is. Passing cant be taught

  • KHuang

    That site is SO POLLUTED.

    So many Trojans over there are TERRIFIED of coming here because they cannot post without flaming people.

  • there’s brilliance in the psycho-shake move =D

  • JoeTeam

    he had about 5 seconds to get it to Lin, and if that’s too hard, he should be coaching 5 year olds.

  • LinJa

    5/25 and missed the clutch FT to win the game in 4th. Kembrick is horrid. Lin and Troy saved hornets. Like cliffs fire defending Lin on bad ref night. NBA politics exposed! The end. This is just insanity, the bad kind for hornets. Glad Lin keeps proving front office and NBA you can’t hide legit Iron Will of JLin.
    Hornets keeps doing the same thing expecting different results. You put the game ball on Kemba, u lose!

  • KHuang

    When I say that Kemba Walker REFUSES TO RUN CLIFFORD’S PLAYS, this kind of dumb selfish play is what I am talking about.

  • Alain Gervais

    He doesn’t have the PG skills. He doesn’t have the vision. Ive seen him enough to know. It has to be a easy pass or else he won’t see it or he simply doesn’t know how to make that pass. If he passed that i think it would’ve been a tov. Fast break the other way

  • blubell

    He played well today, boxing out,hustling, and PnR with Jeremy. He just need more PT

  • TTNN

    also a rebound, the last one at the regulation was Lin’s rebound, but count as team rebound…..

  • KHuang

    I would too, but the TROLLS anchor me there.

    I don’t want to back down to them, so I won’t give them the satisfaction of eliminating me off that forum.

  • Epie

    Did superb job boxing out

  • JoeTeam

    yes

  • TTNN

    and yet he don’t get to touch the ball in both OT.

  • nodomo

    When Kemba drives, his head is usually down looking at the floor

  • Maknusia

    Oh my…I have been missing some good games here.

    Glad Hornets won….Lin been instrumental on these Wins.

    Hope CC and FO take notice and would entrust Lin to be the PG more.

    There was a good article on it yesterday…not sure if it was posted…will post later…once I find it

    GO LIN…mute the Haters

  • KHuang

    Well, Daniels is no rookie.

    So many veterans RESENT Lin telling them how to play, even though Lin is merely trying to make his guys better!

  • sws94

    Yup.

  • Spot

    Kemba is not bad. He’s just selfish. Someone in Hornets’ FO should tell him to stop playing like that.

    It’s not only for Jeremy but other players (past, present and future) who plays with him.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Well, I counted all the games that I watched. JLin was robbed at least 3-5 in different stats every game. The corrupted, biased NBA is at work at all times on JLin. Despite of all robbing, JLin’s stat is still good.

  • Maknusia

    Wish Lin got his triple double today….almost almost….mark it… he will get it by EOS…if his minutes remains

  • KHuang

    Not likely.

    Lin’s trending upwards.

  • KHuang

    It’s TOO LATE for sabotage to hurt Lin.

    Lin’s teammates outside of Walker and Batum now are placing their full faith in Lin.

  • blubell

    Give the mods time to handle it. As the rule says. Do not attempt to moderate the board or other posters yourself.

  • Maknusia

    KHuang The Boss!!! 😉

  • KHuang

    Lin’s still just a one year rental –

    but WHAT A RENTAL!

  • Dan Ang

    I’m really impress jlinportal does not have advertisements. There’s more traffic here that the Interstate 5 at 5pm.

  • I still don’t know how Lin can make that nifty pass through Cousins’ hands to Hawes at 40-48 for the dunk

    You can’t really teach that instinct. Linstinctive pass!

  • Spot

    We, like Jeremy, only care about one stat: W.

    Nevermind and let other so called stars to pump their numbers and lose games.

  • KHuang

    20 10 is flat out GOOD

  • TTNN

    20 11

  • LinJa

    Not bad but great talent. but he is a horrible team player. Great player can use his talent and leadership to create team ball and be the reason to win. This is not Kemba. Can’t stand diva ball players

  • JoeTeam

    Like I said,if he could not make that pass, he should sit.

  • Epie

    I see 7 advertisement blocks.. which I don’t mind 😛

  • JoeTeam

    so he should not start at an NBA team.

  • no wonder he walked away after the big shot… perhaps hoping the ref won’t call it LOL

  • heart

    I think FO is the CORE problem. Their directive is passed down to Cliff and their narrative is regurgitated by their media. They’re supporting the ‘wrong’ guy. See what I mean:

  • LinJa

    Awesome in my book

  • blubell

    Only big in CHA to do so consistently. He does need to stay out of foul trouble.

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  • Maknusia

    ex-Rockets doing their thing…..it would have been sweet is Casspi was here as well with Lin

  • TTNN

    there are there though. More in the other site.

  • Alain Gervais

    well

  • LinJa

    Team captain is to blame as well. If Kemba can just defer Just a little bit, a little bit, the hornets would easily squeeze into playoffs

  • sws94

    He played over 50 minutes. Next game is Utah. Thin air. We’ll see what happens but the combo of all those minutes and thin air may weigh in. Lin is looking like post-ASB Lin early this season.

  • Spot

    I know. That’s why I say he’s not bad but he’s too selfish to carry on a team.

    Hopefully one day he’ll understand

  • LinJa

    Kobe’s fault lol, he creates false idols

  • blubell

    I thought so too.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    It isn’t that I care about other “stars.” I’m more talking about how JLin actual stat was robbed by NBA scorekeepers in every game. JLin did have those stats but scorekeepers gave it to others.

  • Dan Ang

    You are right, I forgot I have an ad blocker on.

  • blubell

    Haha. “Calm down, look cool, walk away”

  • LinJa

    Not to hurt Lin, but NBA rep for ignorant and gullible fans

  • LinJa

    Likely, they’ll freeze Lin and get no touches

  • Dan Ang

    Like a free SUV upgrade at Enterprise?

  • blubell

    Too bad Jeremy is the only one capable of making critical passes, including inbound passes.

  • LinJa

    Jlinportal ads crashes my chrome…

  • Jeff Wu from Sac State got a chance to watch the brilliance of his idol, JLin, in person

    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/691891992872259584

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Is Utah in highland?? Thought only Denver is. To me, it seems Utah is pretty flat when I traveled there yrs ago.

  • JoeTeam

    That was an amazing pass, 52 sec in the first highlights posted here. Amazing. Sort of the opposite of a nutmeg, ball inches above DMC’s head he had not way to stop it.

  • Rick Johnson

    How about the one where JLin draws 3 bigs and the ball magically appears in Hansbroughs hands behind them for the open dunk.

  • blubell
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Naw, I think Kemba is simply a selfish player..Anyone could had made that pass here…He just enjoy being the hero and getting all the praise…he doesn’t want to share it with anyone.

    I now do not want Lin to remain in Charlotte beyond this year…Kemba is way too selfish….

    It is clear that Lin is the better facilitator and should be running the point while Kemba should be playing off the all.

  • Briiick

    No way. MJ isn’t going to admit that he drafted a poor PG and put a big contract at the wrong place.

  • JoeTeam

    Can’t wait to see the Jun Liu highlights. Wish youtube had a slo mo feature.

  • And he passed it with such a great timing, on the way down
    Crazy good!

  • CJSHYY

    Lin gave him the tickets… LOL!

  • blubell

    And they were right about Jeremy being the game changer https://twitter.com/linspiredinca/status/691892498512351232

  • Alain Gervais

    He is selfish as well but he also doesn’t have the vision. Which makes his passing even worse.

  • LinJa

    Physical limitations, he’s too short. Same with Lin, he’s a not an NBA player…he’s Asian ;P

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Agree…emba always never passes unless he’s completely forced to give it up.

  • Spot

    I know but we can’t do nothing about that til Lin will get his team.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Of course. Who else???!!!! 🙂 JLin met him few years ago in Taiwan.

  • JoeTeam

    yep — I was watching the back and fort GSW and SAS and sorry I missed the game. But you can see JLin had some game flow going. That was great. By the time I switched back, it was pretty much Kemba get my stats time. Someone posted a tweet, and it’s true … great game heading to win in reg. until some dumb guy decided to pad his own stats. That attempted layup against 2 bigs and chase, when JLin was on that same side wide open … that was the epitome of selfish street pickup ball.

  • Maknusia

    Santa Ana!!!!

  • heart

    Of course, he knows he has MJ/FO support, so he can keep on isoing to get stats for their justification. I’ve seen enough for 43 games now, is that KW does not have great PG court vision nor great passing skills like a starter pg should have. Yet Hornets keep puffing him up…

  • blubell

    Traffic starts 4 to 7 🙁

  • Maknusia

    yup!…no complains there…just being greedy!

  • JoeTeam

    yes, well it’s a tough situation for everyone.

  • Alain Gervais

    Kemba Cant start on a playoff team. Thats why Charlotte got Lin and Batum. Players who can pass. Like green for Gsw who is better at passing then Curry. The problem is he isn’t an efficient scorer.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • TTNN

    Both are.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • TTNN

    LOL, Lin cut his dad out from the background.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JoeTeam

    Curry passes pretty dgood … you aren’t going to win this one. Kemba just doesn’t pass because, like someone posted of a tweet, he’s just some dumb guy who decides to go for his own stats. It’s right there on tape.

  • blubell

    You’re breaking the site rule as well. Just move on and please let the mods handle it.

  • JoeTeam

    because many coaches went to the BSc and McH school of coaching.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • TTNN

    yeah, Kemba shot 1-7 in both OT together, Lin 1-2, don’t even get the ball much.

  • Alain Gervais

    He is ok. green is still a better passer. iggy is ok as well. The bigs can also pass. Play is ok. The point is that type of system i think Kemba would do good in. Still too inefficient and selfish

  • JoeTeam

    please handle it. 🙂 Hairston hug to Daniels.

  • blubell

    Oh gosh, they have school for bad coaching? lol

  • Briiick

    Why did a guy shooting under 40% for his career get rewarded a contract bigger than Curry’s ?

  • Whitman Lam

    Because going 5-25 and getting blocked 3 times is soooo clutch.

  • 808JL7

    Pretty cute.

  • KJ

    In the last few games, noticed that Jeremy’s body is not square to the basket. His right side is leading. Is he adjusting his shooting form to account for the missed shots I the previous games?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    My only conclusion for Kemba: The excuses that fans give Kemba are getting too long to appreciate his games at all.

  • KHuang

    Lin KILLS the Jazz in both away and home games.

    The Jazz cannot physically match up with Lin.

  • KHuang

    Fans aren’t gullible, but NBA FRONT OFFICES are.

  • JoeTeam

    Huh? Kemba would not be anywhere near GSW system. They got rid of Monte right quick. They had to choose between a shot at Jordan or releasing Lin. They’ve regretted it, even going as far as wanting to get Lin but ‘settled’ for Livingston because Lin was locked up by Rox. But what a find in Liv … he’s so good, did you see him dominate SAS tonight? Amazing. Nope, no place for Kemba on GSW.

    To your GSW bigs passing, did you see Bogut’s no look behind the back lead pass to KT tonight? Announcers highlighted it. Made KT chase it around the corner to a straight open run to the basket.

  • KHuang

    More like ordering a McDonald’s Happy Meal and getting filet mignon inside.

  • LinJa

    Not all fans are gullible, but there are gullible fans.

  • JoeTeam

    It may be run by Morey and some college grad statisticians.

    LOL, Pop said of tonight’s loss … “I’m glad my GM was not in the locker room else I’d be fired.”

  • Rick Johnson

    Undefeated with Hawes as a starter too.

  • JoeTeam

    Curry’s is coming this year, I think.

  • KHuang

    Yes.

    Lin’s BACK to using Linsanity style shooting – with Linsanity level results.

    This is the NBA form that Lin’s dad taught him.

    Lin’s boss Michael Jordan used this form. If it’s good enough for Jordan, it’s good enough for Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    But somehow it has a much higher arc.

  • KHuang

    Because Walker is overpriced on a small market team and Curry didn’t become “Curry” until Joe Lacob brought in Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes, and ESPECIALLY Andrew Bogut.

  • JoeTeam

    Good one! Sometimes people talkin’ and talkin’ the game is over. Won by Lin.

  • blubell

    He’s such a boss.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe this pic is different that the other player pic.

  • Alain Gervais

    His insanity style was more flat

  • blubell

    Look how happy the team is for Daniels. Kinda reminds you of Linsanity.
    https://twitter.com/NBAcom/status/691897022337695744

  • JoeTeam

    JLamb looking pretty stalky there lol.

  • Alain Gervais

    i agree I’m just saying Hornets want to replicate them. Because lets face it there is only one Curry. Kemba is still a pretty good player. They have to get the most out of him. that scheme would

  • blubell

    He always looks like that though… when he’s not looking sleepy… lol.

  • Whitman Lam

    No, Kemba looks straight at the rim when he drives, only looking to score.

  • blubell
  • sometimes chrome crashes jlinportal .. so we’re about even :}

  • JoeTeam

    Whew, what a bbal night. GSW SAS finally matched up. Then this bruiser of a finish.

    I really liked:

    1. DMC fouling out. It was David and Goliath, with PsychoT, Hawes, MW fouled out and no choice to go small ball. Karl was pulling DMC on D to avoid his 6th foul, and KW and Cliff were too dumb to attack him for the 6th when they could. JLin even had a chance, but he was trying to get a clean score by a teammate so he didn’t. I was saying Go Lin, attack DMC!

    Seemed whenever JLin forayed, it was from a different set so he didn’t have as clean a run at DMC. So I was really glad to see Kam try to hold his own, almost doing it, and then taking an elbow to the chin to get the job done. Not that I like elbows to people’s chin, but that was a relief to see DMC out.

    2. Without DMC, Rondo really had fewer choices, and he was too scared to shoot though he was good enough to get through initial D.

    3. KW poking Rudy Gay in the eye … that was so bad. KW is really low skill except he probably played ISO his whole life. I mean, most people don’t foul the 3. Most people who foul the 3 hit someone’s hands on the release. Or, they get up in the air and a Harden like move is pulled, jumping into them when they come down. JLin does that. But, fingers poking into a face? That is low skill bball.

    4. The Daniels 3s … wow. Did you notice how in the final few series, out of TO, the play started with KW and then released to JLin? I felt then … ok, Cliff said it’s on Lin. We just need a good shot and the game’s gonna end now. Before that, every ball KW had, we were probably all thinking … how many more stops before we score a winner, this isn’t going to work.

    David and Goliath, Kam, Daniels, Hawes, PJ, and Lin they did it! No cred to Kemba, he forced all the OTs.

  • JoeTeam

    Wonder how much that costs, Sac is only 2 hrs away. GSW v CHA is impossible to afford for the common man.

  • real-dsb

    Because Kemba’s too short to play SG. Listed at 6’1″ (5’11.5″ without shoes).

  • What an excellent picture capturing JLin’s intent to attack the rim!

  • JoeTeam

    heh heh. Marchand Beast Mode.

  • blubell

    Chrome vs jlinportal. Epic…

  • Ouch, Rudy Gay suffered corneal abrasion after Kemba’s poke

    https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/691897974226554880

  • JoeTeam

    Like someone said, different class. Jlin belongs in that class. It’s like JLin has to travel with the rest of us to get to his seat at the table that has been set, someday.

    Kemba … he might well not be coachable, or maybe he needs a stronger coach. I think Kerr and his system (Luke) have improved over what MJax did for Curry. But I still don’t think Kemba is near as good as even Liv. Liv makes a lot of great D and O plays, including getting his own when needed. Kemba may be at the barbosa level, but I think barbosa is more experienced.

    Curry, the thing about him is he’s so nice and I see him with his family and I know he’s for real. A lot of celebs you know they are not real with their families, you know what I mean. It’s something good for all of us, amazing people who treat others with integrity (Lin, Curry, Arthur Ash, etc. I put them on the same class). Good to hold on to, to respect.

  • blubell
  • heart

    KW’s dirty play… That’s really bad for Rudy Gay. Anything to do w/ cornea is really scary…

  • JoeTeam

    lucky eye surface regenerates fast, fastest skin regen in the body according to link below. I think your tongue regenerates fast too.

    That’s still was a nasty play by Kemba, very nasty and unskilled.

    https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/54445-how-long-does-it-take-my-cornea-to-grow-back

  • real-dsb

    most likely Christmas gift from Jeremy =)

  • Lefon Jang

    OK Lin is not a PG but so what. He had 20 pts and 11 assists. He took 19 shots so you can’t say he’s not getting the touches. In the third quarter just about every play run through Lin. On top of that he played 50 mins! What more do you want from a coach? I personally think Clifford is very fair to Lin. If your definition of a PG is bringing the ball down the floor then he’s not a PG. Other than that he sure plays like one to me. Here’s what the Kings commentators said at the end of the second quarter (about 50s left when Kemba missed the jumper): “Just a miserable first half for the Eastern conference player of the week. He’s 1 of 9 but they got Jeremy Lin who is making up for it. He’s more than making up for it, he has been as good as Kemba has been bad.” You don’t think other coaches are noticing Lin? Whether he re-signs with the Hornets or not is beside the point. The point is Clifford is giving Lin a chance to showcase himself. At the end of all this is a big contract waiting for him. Show me the money!

  • Lin was huge to lead the team in the 3rd quarter for 13pt-swing for 3pt lead
    I hope Hornets fans and Clifford will be able to see teamball is the way to win.
    Kemba needs to get on-board even in the 4th quarter

    https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/691841361335681024

  • KHuang

    There may be a big contract waiting for Lin, yes.

    It may not be in the NBA or even America next season.

    I don’t think any NBA team other than Charlotte thinks that Lin is capable of playing in the NBA right now.

  • real-dsb

    Alley oop for Lin dunk. Still waiting for that seminal event of Lin’s NBA career. =)

  • Lam

    luckily it was not Lin’s hair…

  • real-dsb

    Lin always knows who to get the ball to. When I read that Troy Daniels made the game winning shot, I already knew who passed him the ball. =)

  • KHuang

    Had they done that the whole game, Hornets would have won by at least 20.

  • JoeTeam

    Good to see you post!

  • JoeTeam

    As consensus, Hornets are now 4-0 on OT. I think 2 of them were caused by Kemba. What of the other 2?

  • KHuang

    Lin had some Doc Scheppler girl form with the improper foot placement in him during Linsanity.

    But now, Lin’s ALL NBA in his new solid technique that he’s still getting used to.

    Now Lin’s able to bend his knees more when shooting, and that’s greatly improved his game.

  • It’s true that Lin’s getting chances from Clifford to orchestrate offense & increase his market value although Clifford also allowed Kemba to override it in crunch time to help his cause to push for All-Star selection by coaches.

    It’s a mixed situation that Lin’s getting some chances w/o making Kemba look bad.
    It would be Hornets loss not to win with teamball with Lin as the PG in the long-term.
    They have sealed their fate with Kemba and appears to be unwilling to change.

    But it’s okay. I guess JLin is destined to play in a bigger market.

  • blubell
  • I bet George Karl is thinking how nice JLin looked in 2 times beating his team =)
    And MDA is busy texting Lin to audition to rest his legs to be a Secretariat next season

  • blubell

    Well hello there stranger! 🙂

  • real-dsb

    Confirmed that this was Lin’s career high minutes played in a game. Can you guess his previous high game? (I couldn’t without looking it up)
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    .
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    49 minutes HOU vs PHI. Yes, the nine 3-ptr , 34 pt, 11 ast game!

    http://bkref.com/tiny/qFumv

  • blubell
  • JoeTeam

    I know you’ve said this in the past. I wouldn’t call Doc Sheppler’s coaching “girl form”, though there is a vid with his high school girls showing the form. It’s gender neutral, and I believe he thinks so.

    I know you’ve said in the past it’s about the hips. I don’t happen to agree with that kind of way to ascribe it.

  • blubell

    Oh, I thought it was one of the Toronto games. Forgot PHI game was an OT.

  • good to see ya =)
    I remember Lin was so exhausted in that 76ers game that he regretted he can’t play tougher D

    That means Lin’s conditioning is even better this season since he can still run tough D at the 50th minutes!

  • JoeTeam

    DMC would like to feast for more than 56 points someday, getting more than 20 dimes from JLin.

  • blubell

    Too bad DMC doesn’t like Jeremy, who always frustrates him.

  • No doubt about it 😎

  • JoeTeam

    Well, his loss I guess. Very few players can do a nice ally pop.

  • Barry Allen

    Wow, Hornets are above Knicks now! Nice!

  • Maknusia

    Yup both are and some others…this would give some light

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001792.html

  • Barry Allen

    Look at Lin attacking the two Gay Cousins.

  • Alain Gervais

  • adele

    No questions asked your honor

  • blubell

    Highlights from Jun Liu 🙂

  • blubell
  • adele

    Not with Clifford coaching. This game is very important for both of them. Kemba is very jealous of Lin.

  • adele

    Selfish is bad.

  • deesee5

    If they are team mates he’d be fine getting dimes from Lin. I’m all for Lin in Sacramento 🙂

  • Maknusia

    I dont mind KW doing hero ball, there is are no options….but then you have good to great players surrounding him, he should trust his teammates and feed them…CC need to step in to address

  • Maknusia

    Actually thats the other option for Lin…if he decides to leave CHA, be could also find team with good PG who passes to make their living….Lin could fit just right for SG and a second combo guard

  • KL

    With this win the Hornets have more wins now (22 wins) than the Lakers won for the whole of last season (21 wins). Even if there is nothing else, at least Lin can be happy about this.

  • adele

    Only after Kemba get his stats.

  • adele

    He is allowed now because the asg voting is done. And he still shouts at Lin if he makes mistakes not on Kemba and Batum. Think about being fair.

  • adele

    We need to be positive Khuang. I understand what you mean but God works in mysterious ways.

  • adele

    Yes yes yes

  • Maknusia

    wow…that is a long long video….its been awhile since I listed to Paul’s video…which I thought it either had become a short or medium version only…anyways he is a great Lin fan….immaterial we agree or disagree to his pov

  • Maknusia

    I feel its okay for Coach to shout at his players…thats his role as well…..as for KW…maybe we are not seeing it on our streams

  • Maknusia

    totally disagree…will see as season ends

  • Maknusia

    triple yes 😉

  • Maknusia

    Charlotte Hornets’ Jeremy Lin Proved Too Hard To Handle for Former Team New York Knicks -by Jeff Harris

    They may be his former teammates but Jeremy Lin is constantly proving that the New York Knicks made a wrong decision in letting him go four years ago. How so? Well, he just went on to beat the entire Knicks team in his every move with team high 26 points along with Hornets superstar Kemba Walker.

    Becoming famous during his Knicks’ Linsanity days, Jeremy Lin may have found a home with the Charlotte Hornets, sharing scoring responsibility alongside their first option, Walker. This after the team decided not to field Nicolas Batum and Jeremy Lamb, giving Lin even more playing time – 40 minutes.

    Once a Scorer, Always a Scorer – Just Put the Ball on His Hand

    But the scorer that he is, Jeremy Lin proves that when he has the ball, he can do whatever he wants to – scoring in penetration or jump shot, dishing out five assists or even getting five rebounds – that’s how he developed into some a potential firepower for the Hornets.

    “Jeremy Lin has played on teams where he has started for the majority of the year,” Hornets coach Steve Clifford said as quoted by News Day. “I think the guys that have had those roles before are a big advantage because they have done it before.”

    ”We need to rack up some wins and keep playing together, regardless of who’s not playing,” Kemba Walker said as posted by Yahoo Sports. ”We’ve got guys who are very capable of stepping up and making plays. Hopefully, we’re able to keep doing it.”

    Jeremy Lin Delegated as Hornets Starting Shooting Guard

    As Andrew Snyder of Hoops Habit said, “If the Hornets are going to start stringing together wins and make a push for the playoffs, Lin is going to have to be a huge part of that. With all the injuries plaguing the the team, Lin is clearly Charlotte’s second-best player at the moment. Until Batum returns, Lin’s role in the offense needs to mirror this performance against the Knicks.”

    Snyder added, “He’s the type of scorer that can change the game when he gets hot and the type of passer that makes the game easier for his teammates. The only other players on the Hornets roster that can do that are Walker and the currently hobbled Batum.”

    And with Batum out, it looks like we’re going to see Jeremy Lin’s minute to rise.

  • KHuang

    Then why didn’t Karl and the Kings easily pick up Lin this summer?

  • KHuang

    Just because Lin might not be in the NBA much longer doesn’t mean that he’s not doing God’s way.

  • KHuang

    Even if Lin is forced to stay because nobody wants him, Charlotte will replace Lin’s roster spot with either a clueless rookie draft pick or a veteran bench PG who earns more and produces far less than Lin does.

    Expect Lin to be phased out next season,even if he has to stay for another $2 million.

  • rookie75094

    Walker “is a type of passers that makes the game easier for his teammates. “…. laughable…smh

  • KHuang

    “Lin is the 2nd best player”?

    The numbers don’t support that view.

    Lin’s +/- is badly dragged down by Walker’s terrible play.

  • KHuang

    The trend will continue.

    Even when Batum returns, Lin’s teammates outside of Walker have fully placed their trust in Lin.

    I’ve been writing all season that Lin’s output would be completely dependent on how much his nonWalker nonBatum teammates learned to play off Lin for their own shots and defense.

  • KHuang

    Clifford shouting at Lin and the “role players” HELPS the role players play more teamball and produce more.

    Clifford being terrified of criticizing Walker and Batum for their terrible selfish mistake filled play HURTS Walker and Batum’s production.

  • Hope

    Bad article

  • KHuang

    Lin beat the Knicks “along with Walker”?

    SILLY.

    After Walker’s brick filled 7-25, the only reason I’m not bombing this article is because it is a pro Lin article.

  • KHuang

    That’s if PHI wants Lin at all, which I kinda doubt because of Sam Hinkie’s refusal to sign free agents and especially star searching Jerry Colangelo who I suspect doesn’t think Lin is good enough to play in the NBA.

  • KHuang

    Too bad it was Gay and not Melo that Walker hit.

    Then again, Walker’s always been a step slow.

  • KHuang

    It’s not just the hips.

    It’s also the wrist, elbow, and shoulder placement.

    Lin has been shooting curveballs until now.

    Right now, we are watching the best jump shooting in Lin’s career.

    As long as he doesn’t take too many 3s off the soft dribble, he’ll raise his percentages.

  • KHuang

    Oh yes, it’s called the NBA illegal defense era of no zones.

  • KHuang

    That has not stopped Lin from GETTING HIS this season.

  • BobbyH

    It seems to me that there are some NBA power-play to pump up Walker, either for ASG or for other unknown reasons.

    MJ team must did some behind the scene works to get NBA and refs to collaborate. Just look at the calls favored Walkers last game all game (especially the last call in 4Q that Walker should have won the game with FT, how was that a foul) at the expense of Lin getting non-calls. And the past few games lately with the calls and plays for Walker. You will see what I meant.

    It was luck that Hornets won the game. Where was the luck coming from? Laboring Under Correct Knowledge, from teammates minus Walker and the incompetent coach that can not stand up to the fake star, letting him almost losing the game. Just watching the smile from the coach after 2OT win make me wanting to vomit.

    I am wondering what was in Batum’s mind when he experience this time and time first hand. I doubt he will sign with Hornets, knowing that there is always a star-wannabe in the team that kills the chance in winning. (Well, if Batum is rational)

    But I am grateful that Lin showed up with team-ball, a sharp contrast to the heavy iso hero-ball. It shows vividly in this remarkable game:. 3Qs of Linsanity vs 1Q and 2 OT of hero street ball. Men and queens with reasonable sense can see it.

    I don’t foresee Lin will get much chance than this game from now on because of political agenda. Unless something substantial surfaces. Just stay healthy and play your brand of games, Lin. You will find your permanent home.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree Walker had become another Harden now for FT… Well, w/o the FT he only made 11 pts.

  • Maknusia

    lol…I didnt watch the game… but we cant just dish KW….because just having him together with Lin diversifies the offensive threat.

    And yes, I do agree KW need to be more intelligent in understanding teamball and not chucking shots for the sake to shooting.

    Having said that…that doesnt make the article a bad one

  • Acbc

    Totally disagree again. His present form is so much better than his old form. It’s so much more efficient off the hop using his body more to shoot that “girlie shot” you speak of. If that’s a girlie form then Curry is a girlie star.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I really suspect that Sam Hinkie will stay in his job for long. This could be his last NBA JOB and he would be forced out soon after what 76ers has gone through in the last 3 seasons. Sam Hinkie is bad news for the entire league.

  • My theory after watching Karl & Cousins saga last offseason plus ownership is owner wants big name PG to keep Cousins happy & Rondo was it despite DAL drama.

    Lin’s stats was ruined by Lakers tanking season so really not many teams had him in the radar.

    The only good news we know for sure about who wants Lin now is the Hornets, Grizzlies even rumored Nets for backup PG last offseason and finally MDA who was quoted recently of looking forward to be coaching Lin when he has a chance.

    If MDA becomes HC, I see it as Lin’s best chance to be a star again

  • Acbc

    You’re negativity is way beyond reason. We already know that Hinkie and his coach are basically lame ducks. The league office is desperate to get rid of that chapter of tanking and replace it with a new winning tradition. What we see already is that MDA is running the show with reacquirering a real PG to help change the culture. MDA is on very friendly terms with Lin and they text one another from time to time. Why would you think that they don’t want someone that fits their system perfectly? They know that with Lin next year, they can win at least 50 games. I fully expect MDA and Lin to reunite next year somewhere.

  • didn’t watch the game, but it bothers me that p.j. didn’t give lin the ball when lin went to get the ball from him. (i saw someone post this.) is that true? what was the context there?

    were teammates IN GENERAL (not just kemba) icing out lin? why would they do that when Lin brought them so far with so many assists? were the lin-friendly teammates all on the bench?

    lots of questions. =)

    glad to see that his 3-pointer seems to be back… last two games, it’s been pretty decent.

  • wandertheglobe

    They already have the elephant in the house called Rondo. Who likes to play with Rondo? Boogie man. Karl was already on shaky ground with Divac for his clashes with Boogie. Even if he liked Lin, I don’t think he has much weight in the matter.

  • BobbyH

    It could be that the play was for Walker. But who knows. Like the last play in OT1, Troy singled-out Walker not sticking to the play. Questions that can not be answered outside the locker room.

  • CJSHYY

    I think that’s all from coach’s order. Like in 3Q why everyone all passed the ball to Lin & let him run O bc coach said so… (not bc all the sudden they all like Lin so much… ) in late 4Q it’s all Kemba… that’s not new…That’s the way it’s.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Still half a season to go. Last 3 months have only been an upswing for Lin, every month has been better for him. Lets see.

    Stop scaring us KHuang! 😛

  • golfhacker
  • sws94

    Griffin hurts or breaks his hand in an altercation with a Clipper’s staff member. Some of these NBA players need to grow up and get it together.

  • heart

    At mark 5:25 on Jun’s video above, where Lin got called for the bogus foul for elbowing DMC while protecting the ball on the floor. After he got up, I like how Lin stood firm and faced up to DMC head on. The refs and players got in between them and DMC backed down. Lin has to do this more when he knows that he’s in the right, especially when he gets hit on the face and head. Having said that, DMC is a talented big man. He could have become superstar long ago if he has Lin as PG on his team.

  • Linzen

    Thanks for the article.
    Superstar Walker?!??!! 😒😡

  • Linzen

    Really easy… they just stand around and watch. lol

  • JoeTeam

    okay!!! More scoring we love.

  • JoeTeam

    but poking someone in the eye on a challenge? That’s more than slow lol.

  • heart

    Reply to DanCohen– (somehow I cannot reply to you directly. So here’s my reply.). Exactly! That’s what I said and meant. Lin didn’t have to say or do anything, just sternly face the perpetrator. Lin knows better NOT to take the first swing, and I know he won’t. That may have been the first time I’ve seen Lin had done that…

  • Winner

    Jeremy Lin how u do dis? #CHAatSAC
    Vine by Hive Talk Live

    https://vine.co/v/iiw7712l5mK

  • real-dsb

    Demarcus should know a thing or two about throwing elbows. Except Lin’s was just trying to protect the ball and his space. Cousins’ was not.

    https://streamable.com/iymp

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Omri Casspi: Not THIS again!

    THIS is the best screen Jeremy could get from the Hornets bigs.

  • real-dsb

    That’s disappointing. I thought Griffin was a high character guy. Turns out he’s another Kevin Garnett (who sucker punched a teammate in the mouth and chipped his tooth because the scrub was scoring on him during practice. Garnett also punched teammate Wally Szczerbiak in the head before).

  • KHuang

    probably another ROID RAGE incident.

  • this requires a big who will roll to the basket. nice job hansborough! you can imagine other scenarios where the big doesn’t roll like he’s supposed to and then lin gets stuck, gets a turnover, and then gets blamed.

    i think he also ran a nice pick n roll w/hawes earlier in the game, which was great, since hawes always seems to prefer the pick n pop. maybe the bigs are learning! (bigs that can roll AND that can shoot 3s is deadly…)

  • KHuang

    No agenda from Jordan other than to pump his one possible All Star player into the game.

  • KHuang

    Actually, positivity is beyond reason if one thinks about it.

    We have NO INDICATIONS that ANY team wants Lin, including this Hornets team which views Lin as strictly a one year rental.

  • KHuang

    MY POINT EXACTLY.

    Lin is not on the Kings because they did not want him.

  • KHuang

    “Ruined?”

    Marco Belinelli who had a scrub game against Lin averaged less points and stats than Lin, yet he’s earning $7 million to Lin’s $2.

    The Kings under Karl could have got a younger cheaper better bigger stats player than Belinelli by getting Lin at less than 1/3 the cost, but they REFUSED because the Kings don’t deem Lin worthy of a NBA contract.

  • real-dsb

    that’s how a PG gets the ball to the wide open teammate under the basket while being double teamed.

  • KHuang

    Not just Cousins’ loss.

    The WHOLE Sacramento franchise’s loss.

    That team sure could use Lin to reverse their endless losing.

  • KHuang

    1) Dribble in
    2) Draw a triple team
    3) Pass to the wide open Hansbrough cutting to the basket or pass to the wide open Kaminsky on the 3 pt line.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Higher percentage of making it with a cutting Hansbrough than an open Kaminsky. Koufos simply gave up there.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Come on man..just stop it…Can we enjoy this great game by Lin without reverting to conspiracy theory??…wow!

    As a Lin fan, I wasn’t happy by how the Hornets completely ignored Lin in the 2 OTs but I’m glad Lin had a great game anyway…..

    Saying that, I think Lin should not re-sign with the Hornets…Kemba is simply too selfish and Clifford is unable or too afraid to tell Kemba to stop hugging the ball during crunch time.

    It’s amazing how he always get the ball during cluch time eventhough he’s not shooting that well.

    Lin has started some charity stuff in the Charlotte community and I just hope this is not a precursor for him to get too comfortable and stay…I really worry that he may stay for the sake of continuity…That’s his 4th team and he might feel that he need a bit of familiarity.

    If Lin can keep his stats up, he should get a few starting gigs with some other teams…so I just hope he doesn’t get too comfortable in Charlotte.

  • Linzen

    I remember at the begin of the season, Clifford yelled at big Al about a missed defence assignment. Big Al got really mad and screamed back at him. I remember Clifford backed down right away… and I think he lost his control over his team since then.

    I guess he doesn’t want to be yelled back by Walker, Batum or big Al… sigh…

  • Linzen

    Exactly!
    Hawes, Cody and Frank, please take note. That’s how you roll with JLin.

  • BobbyH

    Just watched Lin’s reaction once T got the ball. he turned back to defense without looking.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    That PnR was his answer to Rudy Gay blocking his shot earlier in the play. Right back at yah, Rudy!

  • DX

    Hawes and Frank usually stay and wait to shoot 3.

  • BobbyH

    Well, just watched X-Files. Can’t help …

    The truth is still out there.

  • BobbyH

    Was there a Kings post game? Can’t find any from NBA. Wondering what Karl had said if there is one.

  • heart

    Knew that Hans know how to play PnR. He can thrive w/Lin like any other bigs, but better. Only if he gets consistent PT. Lin makes his teammates better. Haven’t seen KW make any notable passes (only easy ones) to any of his teammates. Probably, that’s one of the reasons, they have to take it upon themselves to score. No setting up for easy basket from KW.

  • sws94

    Tyler properly rolled. That’s key also. Great play. Lin took his time too, totally under control.

  • sws94

    That was a great play by Rudy. Lin’s move was a wow move, but Rudy stayed with it got up and blocked it.

  • Briiick

    Cliff doesn’t play Hans much because he is the only one who can PnR dangerously well with Lin, which will make KW look like a scrub.

  • Rick Johnson

    20%? Is this supposed to reflect well on Kemba?

    https://twitter.com/nbastats/status/692048252078788608

  • halfguard

    which situation was worse LA or HOU? where do you want to see lin go next year?

  • CaliUSMC

    Lin wasn’t even looking at DMC.. he was looking at the ref. DMC was looking at Lin. It was kind of awkward. ha

  • Dan Ang

    Cousins was waiting for Lin to say something then pounce, but of course Lin is too smart for that. A tech would not be economical for a Econ major.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    What’s yours?

  • CaliUSMC

    I think Cousins knows that Lin wont do anything though. He knew it was pointless lol

  • Dan Ang

    He might not like Lin, but he respects his game!

  • Dan Ang

    Lin looka yoked out in that picture. Got me feeling all sorts of way.

  • Things that make u go , “Hmm, so it’s not Kemba who helped the Hornets won over Cousins & the Kings”

    In the battle of EC vs WC player of the week, Hornets offense is more balanced.

    Kings can’t score well after Cousins fouled out

  • Professor Lin used his A++ geometry knowledge to find a passing angle between 2 tall trees 😄

  • Lefon Jang

    The more I watched that last play the more I’m convinced that the play was drew up for Troy Daniels. Kemba cut to the corner without any urgency. Clearly he’s just a decoy.

  • DX

    Jeremy Lin interview post game ‪#‎CHA at SAC‬

  • travis

    LA

  • CaliUSMC

    SPURS

  • donsmacau

    Reporter: “Do you prefer your role being like a starter or bench for this team?”
    JLIN: “Every player wants to start”

    Occasionally an odd meme floats around the blogosphere that JLIN is content to be a backup scrub bench player for Hornets team.

    You heard it from JLIN’s mouth himself – please put that fallacy to rest wherever you hear it.

  • BobbyH

    Whichever MDA coaches.

  • blubell

    Jeremy said it in HOU as well when he was asked about Beverly starting ahead of him.

  • blubell

    Jeremy was never in a situation where he had to stood firm despite the hits he’s received from other players. Just laughing it off (foul from Kobe and Carmelo) was sufficient but last night situation with DMC was different and standing his ground was the right thing to do. I don’t think DMC was expecting Jeremy to do that.

  • DX

    Didn’t find the coach’s interview. But from the players, they were really sad. Indeed, Hornets injured 4 main players and fouled out 3 bigs, still won. No excuse for Queens. 🙂

    Cousins not satisfied even after scoring 56 points

    Casspi’s reaction after tough 2OT loss to the Hornets

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    that’s a stupid question.

  • blubell

    Come on, guys! There is nothing wrong being Queens. If you want to insult the Kings, call them false Kings or something…

  • donsmacau

    Not sure it’s so stupid.

    Personally have been told repeatedly that JLIN likes to be a bench scrub for a playoff team that treats him fairly compared with his past teams – so that question and JLIN’s answer clears the air.

    We can argue whether the Hornets are a playoff team or not, but the idea peddled by many Hornets fans that JLIN is happy with a Ginobelli-like role is false and now it’s unequivocal.

  • DX

    No offense, I like queens.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin’s usg% is 22.1 so far this year and I think it’ll be higher. It’s his second highest usg% in comparison to all other years (the highest was 28.1 during Linsanity in NY).

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    whoever told you that’s their opinion not Lin. Lin wants to start but when he was treated badly in the first weeks of the season, people got frustrated. Now is a different story but wait till the Hornets get back Batum and MKG then we’ll find out.

  • David Kim

    Re: GT: Hornets @ Kings Mon Jan 25 10PM EST

    Post#785 » by fatlever » less than a minute ago

    W/out cheating, anyone want to guess who holds the franchise record for most games with 25 or more field goal attempts?

    1. Rice (15)

    2. Kemba (13)

    3. Chapman (10)

    4. Jefferson/LJohnson (9)

    6. Jackson (8)

    *Kemba now holds the distinction of having the lowest made field goals (5) for any player in franchise history with more than 25 attempts, breaking his previous record from his rookie year when he shot 6-for-26 vs the Bucks.

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang

    Looks like Lin is saying to Daniels. ” I’ll start the play and you finish it. ”

    Then Daniels says, ” h*** yeah!”

    And kemba behind Daniels is saying,
    ” hey guys, don’t forget about me?!”

  • grover chang

    Like a Boss!

  • orLinaryjoe

    Kemba: “Need to rub some of that mojo onto me!”

  • blubell

    I know 🙂

  • blubell
  • That’s A+ answer due to proven Linsanity 👍😀

  • blubell

    Please observe the rules and do not attack other posters.

  • blubell
  • bolero

    Blake is always nice to Lin..

  • Do you know that Lin’s 11 asts:
    – is the season high as a Hornet exceeding previous high of 7?
    – is more than Kemba season high of 9?
    – ties his season high in LAL and HOU in the past 3 yrs?
    – is 3 away from his career high of 14 as a Knick in 2012?

    And finally, it could easily be 14+ if he had 5 more min as the main playmaker?

    LinsA+nity 2016 is much better than Linsanity 2012 despite not being in MDA system … Yet 😄🏀💪🏻

  • Lefon Jang

    The odd meme floating around is probably from what Lin said when he was asked whether he would be a starter for the Lakers, “There’s a possibility, but again I think one of the things that I have learned in Houston is not necessarily that. Watching the way the Spurs did, and watching what Ginobili did, I just think starting is great but that’s a lot lower on my priority list now that I’ve been through it.”

  • donsmacau

    That quote was made when Steve Nash future Hall of Famer was still the Lakers PG, nobody starts over a healthy Nash, JLIn was simply being realistic and diplomatic with that quote.

  • blubell

    So Batum hasn’t had more than 9 assists? Interesting that no one had double double with assists.
    Just imagine Jeremy playing full time PG. He would easily get 14 assists and triple double here and there 🙂
    EDIT: Oops, I realized you only mentioned Kemba’s assists not Batum.

  • KHuang

    Houston worse – they deliberately disrespected him.

    I’d like Lin to go to a team like New Jersey that would presumably have a nonhater coach that would allow Lin to play point guard as a starter.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I was wondering why Lin didn’t get the assist for PJ Hairston goal-tending FG?

    Have you guys emailed the league about this?

  • blubell

    Ok, thats what I thought.

  • sws94

    He mostly praised Daniels. Daniels deserved it. 28 points is great. His shooting really gave them a lift and they don’t win without him. Of course, Lin drove the big 3rd quarter and just played a great game. Hawes and Marv also made big 3s.

  • blubell
  • sws94

    It’ll really be Linsanity if he can have say 7 out of 11 more of these 20 point scoring games and get at least 5 assists in the next 11 or so games. He’s played Linsane games for the Hornets, but hasn’t really strung them together. The last 2 are the start of something? Might be tough tonight, after 50 minutes playing in Utah will be tough.

  • halfguard

    LA first off from a basketball stand point was horrible, but based on the way lin was treated Houston was way worse. I hope he reunites with Mike D’antoni and becomes a starting point guard.

  • DX

    Or prove yourself right.

  • sws94

    11 assists 3x.

    Lin and Batum just need to touch the ball to get assists. Calling them PG, SG, SF really doesn’t matter. Lin probably can’t get that many with Batum on the floor however.

  • Acbc

    That’s ast record is just sad. This team is so bad on so many levels.

  • nodomo

    Lin had 2 rebounds that were called fouls. One was bogus and one was him jumping over Cousins on the floor for the rebound. Had he gotten those, he would’ve had almost a triple double 20/11/9.

  • Acbc

    I’d rather have queens than the joker jacks we have on Hornets. Lol

  • donsmacau

    JLIN’s ANKLE is NOT FULLY HEALED

    From the Pulse radio interview today on Kings gm (at 2:20):
    “at some point my ankle was kinda giving me issues, and that’s really where I was feeling it…it was getting really really sore…”

    Said still doing physical therapy on the ankle, having 3 sessions of therapy today.

    For those of us keeping track, the ankle has been bad now since Dec. 29th.

  • Linzen

    Exactly!
    … I want to be at the end of the bench just collecting cheques… lol

  • CJSHYY

    So it’s still not good yet… But right now they don’t have enough players so he can’t possible to take a break then… I hate he played that long min. smh!

  • so that might be why they weren’t running the game through him.

  • donsmacau

    I know I’m in the minority view, but if he had to get 3 therapy sessions on the ankle today… he should rest the ankle and sit out the Jazz gm.

    Risking permanent ankle weakness or worse. Stephon Curry at last count has had some 11+ ankle injuries — once you have a severe sprain, the ankle is never the same.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so but I doubt Cliff will let Lin rest unless Lamb can play….

  • james brown

    isn’t it so sinister to think Coach Cliff thought of having JLIN play hurt or to say force him jeremy to play? or it is maybe that JLIN wants to play because we know Jeremy’s character for he wants to help the team much.

  • Alain Gervais

    The fact that Lin is playing like this and is not 100 percent is crazy

  • blubell

    Hawes was finally making 3s and Marvin played well despite the wrist injury. Great team win.

  • Alain Gervais

    players usually play throng ankle sprains. The injury is just very nagging because it stays for a while and can get worse a any given time. Wade would always get those injuries and play through it. Sometimes he would just take a week if or so to heal but luckily the allstar break is not far away

  • blubell
  • donsmacau

    My imagination of the conversations:

    Clifford: We really need you JLIN on defense tonight.
    JLIN: Ok coach still pretty sore but if you really need me, I’ll try to go.

    Clifford: Batum want to give you all the time you need, you’re our superstar and we want you happy.
    Batum: Thanks coach, organization really makes me feel at home; will keep that in mind contract time.

    Clifford: Lamb no pressing need for you tonight
    Lamb: Alright coach, I won’t rush – still not 100%

  • james brown

    players play their injuries some of the times, but to say a Coach FORCED players to play even they know the players is hurting is as sinister as making the player risking their profession by a permanent injuries? i know they have people who decide who to play or who should not play, but coach Cliff or all coach for that matter has no power to decide to play a hurting player , but he can ask a Player who is hurt NOT to PLay.

  • donsmacau

    Examine Kemba’s memory & sincerity to his own words..

    1. JAZZ 52pt gm 2OT
    “You know, I basically made all the mistakes down the stretch to keep these guys in the game. As one of the best players on this team, I can’t make those mistakes. So I’m a little upset with myself right now.”

    2. KNICKS 7-25 shooting
    “deja vu” tried to shoot team to loss

    3. KINGS 5-25 shooting
    “it’s like deja vu all over again” nearly isoheros team to loss (multiple times)

    That’s a total of 12-50 shooting in two games and not surprised to see 17-75 after next.

  • CJSHYY

    I wouldn’t say it’s force but more ask him to do it.

  • JoeTeam

    like waves, if he doesn’t play, heh heh, iso kemba will come and be the style for another 10 games. Lin has his finger in the dike.

  • JoeTeam

    that’s focus-in-da-zone for ya!

  • JoeTeam

    did you mean it’s a Hornets season hight also? Nice if so.

  • JoeTeam

    “Let me go on record that how we finish games isn’t very impressive, but we’ll take it.” how i hear it.

  • JoeTeam

    thx for the update.

  • aras

    Man i just gotta throw this out there out of respect for demarcus cousins even though its a Lin forum…Rarely do you see a player like that who burns so much for the game and has that much passion…yeah he might get out of control at times but man i would have loved to have a guy like that on my team and on Lins team…

  • CaliUSMC

    Modern Rasheed Wallace/Dennis Rodman hybrid

  • Barry Allen

    Kemba’s future actions on the court will speak louder than words. He can’t keep having 5-25 shooting games and playing hero ball down the stretch. It’s hurting the team and almost lost them the last game.

  • LinMad

    I put half the blame on coach. Coach should have smoke coming out his ears when he sees Kemba ISOing down the stretch. Especially when he’s not making them.

  • MoominFloren

    Yeah Cousins is the only player I voted for ASG other than Lin.

  • LinMad

    Cousins is like the Lebron of the West.

  • LinMad

    Tyler with the proper screen.

  • LinMad

    thats what he always do. He will run back on D once hes done with O.

  • your son’s voltaire

    not sure y it wouldnt be ok here. but i was thinking the same bout him as a player. would b an excellent teammate for Lin

  • sws94

    So talented. But he has to exercise better self-control. If he can do that, he’s one of the best in the game.

  • zxcvb

    Thank Klueless Kemba for causing so many OT games that Lin could have won by the 3rd quarter.

  • sport

    Compared to previous seasons, Cousin’s “anger management” and impact on the game has improved; I mean 50+ points without chucking is crazy! But I will give credit to Rondo too. Cousins now has a great assisting PG to get him good looks!

  • Whitman Lam

    No team in the NBA is even close to challenging the Warriors this year for the championship.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • aras

    yeah thats true rondo is a big difference for this team.. but what i do love about rondo in this team is that he is the one trying to calm cousins down when he gets mad..that to me is the big difference with rondo on that team.

  • blubell
  • sport

    Wow, and Spo was the coach that got him two 2 rings! But I do wonder when did Lebron try getting Spoletra fired, before the rings or after? If it was before then I understand but after then that’s just cold and unacceptable!

  • jolno

    https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/samaki-walker-says-kobe-bryant-once-sucker-punched-him-over–100-213438549.html

    Well, can’t really say I am surprised about this. It’s actually kind of sad how some “superstar” can get away with something like this.

  • John Focker

    Not unlike the Lin-Ed situation under BS.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Glad to hear.

    That may also mean that if Lin were to be offered a starting gigs elsewhere, he will surely leave.

    My fear is that the Hornets may convince Lin to stay and tell him he’ll get good minutes even when coming off the bench…I hope Jeremy doesn’t buy into this…With MKG and Batum and Lamb, his minutes will diminish.

    Nets, Sixers and Knicks could use a PG like Lin.

  • Whitman Lam

    I just received a Reply e-mail from the NBA Stats department:

    Hi Whitman-

    We will forward your observations to the department responsible for reviewing plays. If they feel they have incorrectly assigned the statistic to the wrong player, a correction will be made.

    If there are any further questions, concerns or feedback, please feel free to reply back, and I’ll do my best to answer accordingly. Thank you for trying the new NBA.com/Stats and/or NBA.com/DLeague/Stats!

    Regards,
    NBA Stats

    D-League Stats

    Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 2:45 AM

    To: NBAStats

    Subject: Uncredited Assists in New York Knicks @ Charlotte Hornets game 01/23/16

    Dear NBA,

    I’m a longtime NBA fan and League Pass subscriber who was watching the game and following the NBA website box score, I want to report some Stat Errors.

    Game: January 24, 2016 New York Knicks at Charlotte Hornets game started at 7:00 PM ET

    2 Assists in the game were not credited to Hornets #7 Jeremy Lin .

    Missing Assist 1: @ 9:27 mark in the 2nd Quarter , #7 Jeremy Lin passes the ball to #44 Frank Kaminsky for the layup and the foul for the And One basket (2 Points)

    Missing Assist 2: @ 8:43 mark in the 2nd Quarter , #7 Jeremy Lin passes the ball to #22 Brian Roberts for the Pullup Jump Shot made (2 Points)

    Please add these 2 Assists to the box score.

    Jeremy Lin should have a total of 7 Assists, not 5 Assists for the game.

    Thank you for your hard work, let me know if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,
    Whitman

  • sport

    And no team will be for quite a while. Lebron’s team is too busy playing power game instead of winning a championship and he’s also getting old. His “legacy” window is closing fast on him. If GSW 3 peats which is highly likely, it’d be Curry’s legacy! In fact Curry’s already the new golden boy of NBA with an actual humble and down to earth personality! So glad good guys like Curry are finally the no.1 player and team over cocky ones like Kobe and Lebron!

  • donsmacau

    Excellent! Hope they follow through, if they aren’t totally biased the changes should be apparent to anyone in the NBA

  • blubell

    Great! Perhaps you can send another email to NBA regarding last night’s uncredited assists, rebounds, and steal 🙂

  • LinMad

    it was uncredited assists in NY vs CHA? I thought SAC vs CHA.

  • Whitman Lam

    Yes, but those play through injury games are usually in the playoffs in an elimination game. Most players do not try to risk it on a regular season game.

  • Whitman Lam

    It was from the previous game, I sent the e-mail on Sunday.

  • heart

    Is this the email address you used: NBASTATS@NBA.com? Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

  • sport

    And there you have it fans, NO Lin will not settle as bench player! His goal has and will always be to be a starter, all-star, and then championship! If Lin reunites with MDA, Linsanity will break loose!

  • sport

    The team with MDA on it, nothing else!

  • Rick Johnson

    LOL Popovich:

    Marc J. SpearsVerified account

    ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

    Popovich: “I’m glad my general manager wasn’t in my locker room or I might’ve gotten fired.”

    https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/691864990698049536

  • Whitman Lam

    Yes, that’s the e-mail I sent it to.

  • heart

    Thanks.

  • Brent Yen

    Troll King Pop

  • Brent Yen

    THanks! Nice work!

  • blubell

    Haha. Takes one to know one? 😛

  • blubell

    Heart, do you know exactly what stats are missing from last night?

  • Rick Johnson

    Looks like on NBA Official’s review Daniels should have been called for traveling and the winning shot shouldn’t have counted:

    http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/01/L2M-CHA-SAC-1-25-16.pdf

    But earlier with 00:25.6 left in the first overtime Cousins got a shooting foul and free throws that he shouldn’t have because Kaminiski didn’t foul him so the right team won.

  • Brent Yen

    you mean you know that is trollish, right?

  • heart

    I’ve to check to see if Lin was credited for assist on PJ’s goal-tending basket.

  • John Focker

    Nothing screams “quality officiating” quite like back-to-back bad calls that affect the outcome of the game.

  • LinMad

    Even they reviewed the whole game, probably 4+ missed calls on Lin. They need a bigger review center with like 100 employees.

  • Rick Johnson

    Byron Scott threatening a fan?

    https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/692112740543041537

    Then using the old “someone hacked my Instagram account excuse”

  • Rick Johnson

    Bleacher ReportVerified account

    ‏@BleacherReport

    Unreleased footage of Blake Griffin hurting his hand

    https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/692133154820222976

  • LinMad

    Is Byron’s girl half Asian or full Asian?

  • DX

    Also there was a steal missed.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, sitting Duncan and losing by 30 is quite a troll to set up the playoffs. Next game, he’s going to give SAS a taste but still lose?

  • JoeTeam

    Sport, times have changed and things move faster now with the internet and population growth. What I love about GSW having the chance to create a dynasty is that nobody on GSW are going to have a TV show to all hail their greatness and announce career choices.

    I want JLin to be a part of this new change in the NBA too, and hopefully JLin can get his rings too in the next 5. So, there’s little room for LeBron if it’s me doing the cheering.

  • Acbc

    Mchale gave the last shot to Parsons in regulation and he failed. Lin made the first 3 in OT as if to say to Mchale, I would have made that corner 3 for the win.

    It’s amazing how stupid these coaches are.

  • donsmacau

    If this is for real, then could be the end of the road finally for Byron Scott.

    Byron Scott the worst Coach in the NBA today, the worst Coach in the history of the Lakers franchise and a testament to Jason Kidd to get as far as he did in NJ with Scott as coach — thus Byron Scott gets my vote for possibly worst coach in the history of the NBA.

  • yellowshadow

    i hope you guys arent seriously thinking pop was gonna show all his cards before the playoffs. why do you think duncan sat?

  • Acbc

    I don’t agree. IMO, it’s very bad when coaches show favouritism. If you scream at one player you must also scream at all players.

  • grover chang

    Griffins fractured HAND
    Lebrons has a HAND in getting blatt fired
    Anthony Davis HANDS on his head after a concussion
    Warriors HANDS over Spurs worse loss of the season.

    NBA with busy hands this week.

  • your son’s voltaire

    half or full, i got zero respect for those types

  • Alain Gervais

    why is that comment toward me bro? the guys above said Cliff is trying to hurt lin. I said this injury can be played thru and usually is. Lin has played thru this before.

  • your son’s voltaire

    edit: nvm

  • John Focker

    Only Jojo fans will get this…The Hand!

  • your son’s voltaire

    how did he know that LBJ got Blatt fired when he’s Miami’s part owner and not CLE’s part owner? must still be bitter. but either way, this star driven league make me sick

  • Acbc

    Agreed. Pop is so cagey that I wouldn’t put it pass him to just play ropey dope like Ali while scouting GSW to see what he needs to do to beat them in the playoffs.

  • it’s getting harder to predict Lin’s stats.
    I got 21pts/5asts and he got 20pts/11asts

    but I’m glad to be wrong =)

    Kemba needs Lin’s help to win to get All-Star votes.. so I’m thinking 8+ assists again for Lin to work in 4 quarters before Kemba becomes hero in the 4th

  • John Focker

    I’d rather miss all 82 stat polls if it means Linsanity games more often than not. 🙂

  • donsmacau

    Kemba’s chance at this stage is solely the coaches votes.

    Problem for Kemba is the last two showcase games he has gone a combined 12-50 shooting – not enough to impress anyone contemplating All-Star.

    Personal feeling is he has zero chance at this point.

  • Dan Ang

    You the WhitMan!

  • John Focker

    Kemba’s been in the league 4 years, and during two of those he led the Bobcats to an 18 and a 23 game losing streak. Coaches are well aware of his tendencies and true worth. Just like Corey Brewer’s 51-point game, people know it’s only a blip rather than the norm. As much as I want Kemba gone, and as hard as Hornets are trying to shop him, I’m not optimistic about anyone being duped unless there’s a new tanking team in town. But even then, you can tank for far cheaper than Kemba. smh

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah, it’s hard to unload Kemba because of his contract and the fact that he’s undersized and shoots at a low FG%.

    He’s also not a great passer.

    He’s been a starter the whole year at the PG spot and only managed to hit 9 assists once. Lin hit 11 assists last game.

  • John Focker

    I used to think that MJ and Co. got duped on Kemba, but read somewhere else that Kemba and Al have the same agent/agency, which used Al’s contract to leverage Kemba’s. In either case it shows poor decision-making from the higher ups. Al was good but not worth getting stuck with Kemba for 4yr/48M, unless perhaps if he’s playing at Akeem level (he’s obviously not).

  • Phillycheese

    They missed a goaltending on Lin’s layup.

  • CaliUSMC

    yuP

  • sws94

    Lin is a physically tough NBA-level athlete that plays through an immense amount of pain. He has a mindset of play if possible like most crazy athletes have. Where are people getting notions that Lin is being made to play. He wants to be out there helping his team and most highest level athletes, like Lin is, have to taken off the field/court/ice by medical staff not to play. His ankle sprain is the type that many BB players get and he’s obviously better some days on it than others. Last 2 games, he wasn’t 100 percent on it, and it may have been sore, but was able to play well on it.

  • sws94

    Nothing new. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird had coaches fired. I don’t know who Katz is or if he is reputable, or if he has any ax to grind with LBJ, but star players have more power than even good coaches. Harden got McHale fired. It happens.

  • CaliUSMC

    I’ve fractured my right hand like that before during my younger party days (I was very very very intoxicated).
    As you know a correct punch is suppose to make to contact with your index/middle finger… My punch landed incorrectly where the pinky/ring finger had almost a 90degree bend. It’s commonly known as a ‘boxers fracture’ on the 4th/5th metacarpal. If surgery is not required he’s going to have a to wear a cast thats going to make him look like wolverine for a good few months. So, he tore a quad and now fractured his hand lol. Hello pain killers!

  • james brown

    kinda immature in some ways..temperamental, maybe he’s a loner.LOL!

  • james brown

    rondo seems a nice fellow and Matured as a player now.

  • Phillycheese

    Do an over under for points and assists.

  • occupatio

    dont forget that brewer’s 51 pt game was with harden ‘guarding’ him. that shouldnt even count hah.

  • Uh-Oh

    Lol. Why? As a coach he may be a really an awful one, but maybe as a bf he’s very generous and caring to his gf. Who knows.

  • John Focker

    Good argument but poor example at the end. McHale is more of a puppet of Morey’s than a real coach, much less a good one. Magic and Bird might’ve gotten “a” coach fired, but Lebron’s on a roll here, 3rd coach fired, IIRC.

  • sport

    He’s fallen from “stardom” for many years now sure hope he’s matured.

  • John Focker

    Generally speaking, if a person is behaving like a poor excuse as a human being, chances of that person being nice in other capacities ain’t all that great.

  • John Focker

    “Kemba just isnt good enough, I’m sorry thats the hard truth”

    Why are you sorry? Except for KembaSanity and one of the two Lin Win’s, it’s pretty much a consensus here that Kemba sucks as a PG and is too short as an SG.

  • John Focker

    Got one just like it punching an eucalyptus tree once, two hairline fractures and two metacarpal dislocations. In cast for bit over a month, still hurts if I rotate a door k*** the wrong way.

  • your son’s voltaire

    at least he’s got Stephanie Ready’s help with all this “captain” talk

  • MorlockO

    He gave lin a dirty look… so no for cousins for me…

  • John Focker

    Irving can’t lead his team into greatness, but he’s a very good ISO player, Kemba’s good at neither. If Lin wasn’t Asian he’d be the starting PG and Kemba the backup.

  • John Focker

    Got one just like it punching an eucalyptus tree once, two hairline fractures and two metacarpal dislocations. In cast for bit over a month, still hurts if I rotate a door k*** the wrong way.

  • your son’s voltaire

    yeah, i bet. generous cus he got the $$. gold diggers, hooking up for fame or status, whatever it is.. just very typical of those types

  • John Focker

    In retrospect, entirely possible that T-Wolves were trying to unload Brewer, and lookie here Corey is with the Rox! I think Hornets trying to pull the same stunt here, but it’s more tricky with 12M players that don’t perform as such.

  • aras

    i would have given a look like that as well if i got elbowed in the face…its in the heat of the game..lots of emotions adrenaline i have done the same thing when someone did that to me. Cousins is an emotional player.

  • Acbc

    I’ve often compared Lin to an ultimate fighter using all of his teammates like the legs and knees that can kick, the head that can head butt or elbows that can smash someone’s face. Then we have Clifford and Kemba like a welterweight boxer that can only use their pillowed gloves to try to knockout and opponent. With KW, Clifford can only use his one good right arm and nothing else. It’s not even a fair fight when they play a team like the GSWs that are basically using all their arms and legs to beat up the one good arm that Clifford is using. How can someone be so dumb and stuck in the past.

    The way Kemba ISO is exactly like a boxer trying to punch out someone with one good arm and not involve the rest of the fighting tools available. They become useless and atrophied. When an opponent is using every asset they have to fight, you are basically playing shorthanded.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    If you want to be a really good troll, emulate Popovich’s style

  • james brown

    just expounded on what you’re saying with respect to the injury issue and CJSHYY comments on cliff’s forced playing JLIN…chill.:P

  • John Focker

    T-Wolves trying to unload Brewer, and lookie here Corey is with the Rox! I think Hornets trying to pull the same stunt here, but it’s more tricky with 12M players.

  • james brown

    good point and also except when the team really needs the win!

  • Right on 👍😎

  • james brown

    person whoa re looking at his own mirror can’t see what you described most of the time, and if they do see it, they vehemently denied it to themselves to the bone, UNLESS he is open to changes!

  • Rick Johnson

    Pretty much what g (@monkeyes2) has been saying:

    2paragraphs: Jeremy Lin Secret Revealed — Big Minutes Is Key

    https://2paragraphs.com/2016/01/jeremy-lin-secret-revealed-big-minutes-is-key/

    Jeremy Lin has tantalized fans with how he’d perform given adequate minutes on the floor. Last night in the Hornets thrilling 129-128 OT victory over the Kings, he gave one very positive answer. Lin scored 20 points on efficient shooting (8-of-19, 50% from 3-points) while dishing 11 assists and grabbing eight boards. What’s the key to Lin’s success?

    The control factor in the Jeremy Lin experiment continues to be minutes. When you add minutes to Lin’s stat line, you get more from Lin as a player. In the Kings win, Lin played 50 minutes — more than any other Hornet. It was a game filled with gaudy statistics. On the Kings side, Damarcus Cousins had 56 points and was only stopped by his sixth foul. Rajon Rondo had 20 assists and ten boards. For Charlotte, Troy Daniels lit up for 28 points on scorching hot shooting, going 8-of-11 from three.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Which situation was worse: same level of WORST for me.

    Where do you want to see Lin go next year: A championship contender.

  • CaliUSMC

    DMC 3-16 tonight lol

  • Acbc

    Kemba is a dinosaur in the modern game for PGs. There’s so many better PGs that can score AND PASS. Kemba is a undersize SG handling the ball in order to set himself up for scoring. He hells no one else on his team. That’s just not good enough today. A PG needs to a quarterback that can run and scramble.

  • Acbc

    That’s basically 25 lay ups. Lol

  • John Focker

    It’s a tough business! LOL

  • John Focker

    He’s dog-tired after fouling out not one…not two, but three Hornets’ bigs last night. Schedule loss.

    Blazers: Thanks for the 2OT last night, Kemba!

  • Uh-Oh

    Forget what movie, but it kinda goes like this the line :” he might not be a good person, but he’s a great dad.”

  • khomphuong2

    Not Lin related

    Kobe Bryant makes Larry Nance JR sit on the floor. 😂🐐 https://t.co/TqRlzHDHgK— NBA SKITS (@NBA_Skits) January 27, 2016

  • Acbc

    As a tennis coach, I’ve often told my students that when they go for dumb low percentage winners, they are basically opening themselves up to making errors that punches them out of the match. If Kemba was an ultimate fighter, he’d be punched out so often, he’d learn very quickly. It’s too bad they can’t learn by getting kicked or elbowed instead.

  • TTNN

    Just look at the highlight, and start to realize how selfish Kemba was to break the play at the end of OT1, that bring the whole team to go through second overtime.

    https://j.gifs.com/82ME62.gif

    This is first overtime. Kemba suppose to run to the corner and bring his defender over, and you can see Kaminsky set up a screen for Daniel, and you could see how open Daniel is when he run up, but because Kembe refuse to go down, so his defender is in the way that Lin could not safely pass the ball over to Daniel. Kemba was well defended, with a guy stick to him, but he just push back and ran feet back from 3pt line to have space. Lin had no choice but to pass over to him, and he had no space and barely get the ball off his hand, that’s a horrible shot. Meanwhile, Daniel was totally open with a screen set for him. And with Daniel totally hot that game and with Kemba not shooting well, I just don’t understand how he would go against coach, and totally break up the play. Not sure how his teammates feel.

    https://j.gifs.com/G6M8v3.gif

    Now this is the play at the end of OT2, exactly the same play, Kemba this time ran out of the way, and bring his defender out of the way, now you can see how open the passing lane it is for Lin to pass to Daniel, however, since this is the second time to run this play, Daniel did not have as big a separation, but he still nailed it. Gosh, I really did not realize how selfish Kemba behaved in this play.

  • John Focker

    Whew, long way of saying denial! 🙂

  • Ben Johnson

    So, Jeremy’s 18.4pts/4.3asts/58.1%TS as a starting SG would rank as 8th, 5th, and 7th in the league for all SGs, respectively…quite simply, he’s been a top 5 SG in the league as a starter

  • james brown

    too harsh!LOL!

    the fallacy of saying so many words of a “one worded opinion” has the notion of being fair and subtle and will make a better impression on the minds of those opinions target, not to mention non combative!

  • your son’s voltaire

    u watch too many movies

  • John Focker

    “Not sure how his teammates feel”

    Daniels-san was pretty expressive about how he felt: “I knew I was going to get the shot. I was open on the last one. Kemba ran the play wrong. But it’s all good.”

  • james brown

    KW wanted badly to be the HERO even against his coaches wishes!

  • your son’s voltaire

    doubt it. kemba is a typical nba darling. high draft pick, scores a lot, has moves that make you go ‘wow’, and a ‘star’. he can miss 20 shots in a row and then hit the game winner and still be the hero.. a case in point if he hadn’t missed that FT to win it last night. that’s the kind of league this is

  • your son’s voltaire

    wow. nice work! they ran the exact same play except the second one shows kemba actually cooperating

    #exposed

  • TTNN

    He is not happy there for sure. Coach trusted him, but Kemba don’t want to give him the chance. Lucky they got the second chance to run that play to close the game, otherwise, Daniel will never got this opportunity to prove himself.

  • grover chang

    pretty sure Lin was disgusted with Kemba. I thought Lin walked off after the buzzer with disgusted body language. I didn’t realize the extent of Lin’s disgust until now. When Khaung says Kemba breaks the offense this is what he probably means. How many times a game does Kemba do this. He is holding the team hostage since he is the point guard and has the ball in his hands. I am surprised someone doesn’t pull a Griffin and punch him in the face.

    I thought Kemba was annoying but now I am moved to irritated. He is ruining this team by not being part of it. He walks around smiling like he is doing the team a favor. He could say the right things. He could think he thinks the right things. But what he does is what he really believes. Selfish.

    Thanks for the great post.

  • sws94

    Then you aren’t going to like a lot of players. To Cousins, Lin is the guy wearing the other uniform. I don’t think it’s anything personal as it isn’t something lingering. Just two competitors going at each other.

  • sws94

    He’s not particularly nice from what I hear.

  • your son’s voltaire

    this should be posted in the kemba thread on realgm’s hornets forum

  • John Focker

    Hornets got very lucky because the second time Collison fought through Kaminsky, giving Daniels a lot less space and time to release a longer shot (compared to the first OT’s execution that Kemba sabotaged).

    BTW, awesome presentation and crystal clear explanation. Really appreciate it.

  • sws94

    I don’t agree with that. Kemba is very similar to other scoring PGs like Westbrook, Wall, Rose and Irving. He is not as skilled as they are, but the scoring PG is less the dinosaur than the Rondo and to an extent Paul type of PG. Westbrook and Wall have expanded their games somewhat to assisting. I think the passing PG is a throwback more than the scoring one. Curry is a scoring PG. In many offenses, the role of facilitator is being shared too, like in GSW Draymond Green does a lot of facilitating.

    Lin actually is a hybrid of the scoring PG and the PnR PG. The criticism of Lin was he needed the ball in his hands to be effective. That’s going away now as he needs to be more in the flow, but doesn’t constantly have to control the ball.

  • sws94

    Irving is like a better Kemba. Not really a team player though. More one-on-one razzle dazzle, shake-and-bake type with a good jump shot.

  • TTNN

    Well, Lin was asked about Kemba break up the play, and according to Lin, “it is all good”, LOL.

    Here is the link for Lin’s interview.

    http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=131&c=1291&f=5215023

  • MorlockO

    Why do I need to like a lot of players? most of them are a bunch of punks. I support duncan and steph curry…

    you already got the call in your favor… you don’t need to try and intimidate the guy who accidentally elbowed you… do that to me and I’m just going to punch you in the nose and try my hardest to break it… what cousins did is total disrespect… he was clearly looking for a fight… it didn’t break in a fight because lin is a nice guy… and he didnt escalate the matter… if it was another guy like matt barnes, what will be a full on fight…

  • wu kong

    yep

  • wu kong

    this is excellent work!

  • sws94

    Does everything fall down to Lin being Asian? I don’t think that’s the reason myself. I think Lin’s flexibility and sometimes not as razzle-dazzle ball handling is it. Kemba in a groove can score. Come on. He scored 50 and 40 in the same week. He can put the ball in the basket. Sometimes efficiently, sometimes very inefficiently.

    Lin really isn’t a backup even though he’s called one at times or a “sub” or “reserve”. He’s a 6th man now.

  • sws94

    Exactly. But some nights he is as good as anyone offensively. Not defensively.

  • sws94

    He’s undersized for the 2. Lin is playing alt 1. Combo. That flexibility makes him valuable. I’m away from Lin is a PG. I don’t think that. I think he’s a creator/facilitator and a combo guard. I think that’s what folks here have in mind as a PG but Lin doesn’t really play like a conventional PG or even a shoot-first one.

  • John Focker

    Lin’s gotten better in the SG role because of mistreatment in the last three years. He’s now a more versatile player as a result. But his strength is still Nash-style PG and it’s his greatest asset to any team willing to give him a chance. Probably not a good idea to advertise heavily as SG unless PG bridges are completely annihilated.

    Selling as combo guard, as sws94 suggested, may be a good idea.

  • sws94

    If someone giving you a dirty look is going to cause you to punch him, then you don’t belong in professional sports. You stay professional. Some players are punks, some are far from it in all sports.

  • occupatio

    i suspected as much, but didnt get it until you pointed it out. love your posts. thanks.

  • John Focker

    From what Daniels said, he was pretty disgusted as well. Fairly sure Kemba has lost the team. Marvin/Hawes/PJ all having great career moments and season highs with Lin at the helm, whereas KembaISO freezes out everyone else. Batum/Lamb must be sick with Kemba too as both suffer in stats as result of Kemba hogging.

  • MorlockO

    errmmm obviously I don’t belong to professional sports. else I won’t be posting here.

    did you actually see the play? or you just talking? that is not just ordinary dirty look… that is actually looking for a fight look… you do not come towering over me with a look that wants to fight me. bumping me with your chest.. you do that and you get a fight…

  • John Focker

    So happy Mavs beat the Lakers. For one Sixers are now only 1.5 games behind Lakers, and also Mavs get to stay in front of the Rox. Not a fan of Mavs either but hate toxic Rox more.

  • MorlockO

    the point is, I do not respect cousins because of what he did to lin… not too sure why you are so defensive about that…

    I respect you if you give respect to other people… does not matter what your emotional state is… you just give proper respect period…

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lin’s ceiling? Nash
    kemba’s ceiling? IT (the current one)

  • John Focker

    Or just IT (the racist one), friend of Mayweather’s. The Pistons’ IT gave Lin ample praises.

  • John Focker

    He gets close (70+% of peak Nash) when he’s allowed to, just hasn’t been allowed to play PG very often in the last 3.5 years.

  • TTNN

    so if you think Lin is not PG, or don’t play like a PG, what do you call Kemba? What he is?

  • John Focker

    Not EVERYTHING, but in 90% of the cases, absolutely. The “eye-test” does indeed exist like it or not (even for Caucasian players). Heck, David Stern himself commented that Lin’s career’s been affected by ethnicity.

    How many times has Lin been short-changed by non-calls? Even when he bleeds he doesn’t get it. Almost a third of his so-called TOs are fouls not called. His assist stats get shortchanged all the time, and there were some instances where other players’ TOs were counted as his.

    Any non-Asian player with his numbers and who won HS CA State champs would’ve gotten full basketball scholarship for college, and drafted in first round. Any non-Asian player who lit up John Wall would’ve caused a sensation.

    If Lin led a team to 18 and 23 straight losses, he would’ve been crucified. But in Kemba’s case, he gets 12M/yr (more than Curry). Sure, Kemba “volume shot” 52 and 40 points, but often at the detriment of the team and chemistry. Never mind the 12-50 during the last two games.

    Kemba’s a streaky volume shooter at best, but don’t take my word for it, check his FG% year by year: 36.6 42.3 39.3 38.5 42.5, so that groove sure don’t come very often. Artificially raised numbers are more reflective of F/O agenda (ASG, trade, etc.) than the player’s true talent.

    Apologies if I come across a bit abrasive here, but I’m growing fairly frustrated with Kemba apologists (not referring to you) and false narratives about Lin’s TOs and handle and not going left and all that garbage. It’ll always be a skewed comparison when the playing field isn’t even leveled (coddled superstar beyond accountability vs. perennial shortchanged underdog.)

  • sws94

    I think Lin is a distributing, playmaking guard who sets up his facilitation and own scoring off his dribble/drive penetration. Kemba is a shoot-first PG like Rose, Irving, that type but not as skilled. Kemba’s height, ball-handling make him suited for PG but his lack of passing skills, court-vision makes his limited to ball-handling skills and needing a facilitator (on Charlotte Batum or Lin) on the floor to help him. Kemba is not a complete PG until he learns how to run plays for the team and not revert to creating just for himself the majority of the time in crunch time and other parts of the game.

  • TTNN

    so Lin do all the distributing, playmaking, facilitation, dribble drive penetration and yet you don’t want to call him PG, and Kemba shoot-first, lack of passing skill, court-vision, and could only handle the ball, and you still think he suite for PG, and IS a PG now.

    Then can you tell me what is your definition of PG?

  • sws94

    But it may just be Lin doesn’t have the status of a star player. How was Yao treated? There needs to be more Asians in the NBA for me to say, look, as a group Asians are always treated badly. I suspect there are some refs that may have a bias because of race but some may just have a bias for some other reason. Star players get star calls, Lin isn’t the only one in the NBA that doesn’t get calls he should get.

    Lin may not play PG because NBA coaching staffs feel he’s so versatile that he’s better used a different way. It’s as simple as that. Not everyone sees Lin the way his fans sees him. Especially in the NBA.

    Kemba has improved his shot and has been more efficient. I don’t know why this board talks about Kemba so much. I seriously don’t need to dislike Kemba. I know his shortcomings I think, but I don’t think he’s against Lin more than I think he has bad habits and can’t see but so wide. But he does what he does sometimes very well. And it’s up to the coaching staff to get him to play better team ball. Charlotte fans are just as annoyed with him as anyone else but he has some ability beyond just being a volume shooter. He does some things very well and other things very poorly.

    Lin is playing a lot of minutes, is playing crunch time for the most part, sometimes guards the toughest guy on the opposing team during crunch time. That’s respect from the coach. I think that’s being overlooked here because we want to see Cliff use Lin as a PG more. Well, he probably won’t. We can only hope he uses Lin to facilitate like he did 3Q in the last game. The results were great. And it really doesn’t matter if he is called PG or SG or SF or whatever. He was given the ball by Kemba as the featured facilitator and he did great things with it. I hope to see that happen more.

  • sws94

    That’s the thing, it’s clear on some teams, blurry on others. A PG used to be the one to call out plays, direct guys on the floor, run PnR etc. but that’s now expanding to more than one guy that may do that. I think a lot of people think a PG is the player with the best ball-handling skills and usually one of the shortest or the shortest players. Or the PG is the guy that initiates the offense. But on some teams, that’s not always the case. Cleveland, it’s LeBron a lot. Miami, it’s Wade. And while Steff on GSW initiates offense, sometimes it flows through Green. In D’Antoni’s system, or the way Rondo or Paul play, the PG has the ball in his hands more than other players. In other systems, they don’t.

    On Charlotte, when it is Kemba/Batum, Kemba has the ball a lot but it goes through Batum a lot. It’s more Kemba has it a lot when Lin is with him, but that wasn’t the case 3Q of the King’s game. Lin played more the Batum role and it ran through Lin. So Lin is combo. Sometimes the ball goes through him, sometimes he initiates with Kemba and Roberts off, and sometimes he’s a 3rd facilitator with Kemba and Batum on the floor. When Phoenix had 3 guards, Bledsoe brought the ball up and Dragic played more of a 2, but they’d alternate so it was hard to tell who was the 2 or 1 sometimes once Bledsoe brought the ball up.

  • sws94

    He’s seen as a smaller Ginobili by much of the league (but they call him a “backup”. Fans here and elsewhere see him as a D’Antoni style PG but much of the league sees him as Ginobili. Ginobili in his prime was a dynamic, winning player. So that is not an insult, don’t know why fans here think it is. It’s a big compliment if you aren’t stuck into Lin has to be a Nash-like PG definition of him. I think he has some Nash and some Ginobili but a lot of Lin and he’s significantly different than both.

  • sws94

    I think it is the heat of the moment, I hate the opponent, attitude Cousins take. It’s not against Lin personally, he’s not only the opponent, but one that is hurting your team. Off the court, he’s fine. On the court, he’s the enemy.

    I have issues with dirty plays and I don’t like Cousins flopping and losing control. But a dirty look is absolutely nothing but part of the game. I think Cousins may even respect that Lin can take hard hits and get back up. I don’t know, but he sure knows Lin can help beat his team.

  • sws94

    Of course I saw it. Nothing to fight over. It’s part of basketball. Lin handled it fine. Lin’s a tough guy with a mild manner. Fighting/posturing would be counterproductive to his team and really, Lin would let down the team by going into some immature macho stance in this situation. Lin let his game beat the other team, and that’s the best way to handle it.

  • Halfguard

    Last time lin played this many minutes was his second year in houston against the 76ers. Lin played 49 minutes and finished with 34 points and 11 assists.

  • TTNN

    I’m asking you what’s YOUR definition of PG, when you say Lin is not a PG, but Kemba is one. So what definition you used to make that conclusion.

    Just tell me where you draw the line that Lin get out of PG category and Kemba stay in. Has nothing to do with Batum or other team or other player, I’m asking only your definition.

  • occupatio

    you wrote a lot without saying much of anything.

  • TTNN

    LOL, you are too sharp

  • sws94

    Really, the Nash, Stockton, Magic, J Kidd type. But that’s another era. I can only answer you like I did before because the definition is expanding now. I don’t have my own, I go by how guys were used in the NBA through my time watching them. Kemba isn’t a 2 guard due to his height and really not playing off of the ball like a 2 guard. He’s not so versatile. He’s then used as an incomplete PG. Lin has both qualities of today’s NBA, so he’s a combo guard.

  • sws94

    whatever.

  • sws94

    Not really. Just has his own opinion on things. We all do.

  • sws94

    Here’s something I want you to think about. I’m happy for Lin because he’s become more effective playing with ball-dominant players. I believe they are in every team. I don’t wish to critique or talk about Kemba so much. It isn’t his forum.

  • Whitman Lam

    I really don’t care about the Western conference anymore since Lin is on the East Coast now. I DO want to see Houston get swept by the Warriors or the Spurs in the 1st Round of the playoffs, and Mavs helped keep the Rox in their place tonight with a win over the Lakers. Lin is a better point guard than Clarkson AND Russell combined.

  • TTNN

    So because Kemba was starting at 1(that’s how he was used), even he is not capable of doing what 1 is needed to do, you consider him PG. Because Lin was used at 2, was asked to play off ball, even he is way better in play making, passing, set up his teammate, you would like to claim he is not a PG, and you think he should not be played as PG, since he is not.

    You know what, I don’t really care your definition of PG, I just want you to realize your ridiculous logic that you can’t even explain yourself and you are hella double standard.

  • TTNN

    Has nothing to do with Kemba, I’m having problem with your logic and double standard.

  • MorlockO

    that is beyond the point, aras said he respects Demarcus cousins… I don’t because of his attitude towards lin… that is my point… nothing about lin… nothing about professionalism… nothing about the team…

  • james brown

    its so hard for others to admit and say JLIN is good at being a PG and second a SG, because they themselves doesn’t want to define it, but they can easyly define other player because they got no hold on them…

    Yes your question is easy to answer..JLIN is a PG first and good SG if needed and called for that position as well as KW is a PG, but NOT GOOD at PG because he lacks some good qualities of a PG so he is stuck at ONLY being a PG, but can never be a SG because of his height.

  • james brown

    good point!

  • sws94

    What is the double standard? I don’t care that much about PG vs. SG. As long as he facilitates, what do I care what position they call it or when he gets the ball. He has to play with Batum and Kemba. Only thing I care about is he takes that situation, picks his spots, helps his team win doing what he’s assigned.

  • james brown

    so goes the saying….when one starts to compare, you need to define, but when discussing only one thing, it applies to that thing only!

  • sws94

    Lin has some issues as main PG. Specifically his advancing the ball under pressure. That’s the one area that is a major weakness for Lin as PG. If he has open space, he’s great. But as a half-court primary ball handler, he’s vulnerable.

    Lin can distribute from whatever position he plays therefore I say the PG/SG isn’t that important and he actually saves energy and can be more effective as a combo (not SG or PG, combo).

  • TTNN

    so with Kemba, you are pretty tolerant that because he has limitation of height and he could handling the ball, so he could be called a PG. With Lin, you don’t consider height, and don’t consider Lin within the team still have good ball handling than most of the other players, but, since he is not the best ball handler, he could not be called PG, even he could perform all the other tasks way better than a lot of PG in this league.

    You could tell all other no-position stuff to fuzz it, but your logic and double standard is pretty clear.

  • LAJane

    Well, what is he gonna say anyway. Daniels can say it because he’s not the polarizing one-year rental with the worldwide fan base. Lin say something like that and it’d be disrupting on a whole other level. He’s come too far rehabbing his sabotaged rep to get involved in anything like that. Plus can you imagine the earful he’d get from Mama Lin?

  • sws94

    So maybe he meant Cousins’s skills. Don’t know. Cousins is very skilled.

  • TTNN

    What double standard? When talking about Kemba, you are inclusive, so Kemba just need to meet one aspect (ball handling and short) to be inclusive as PG, and when you talking about Lin, you are exclusive, so Lin just need to have one unmet aspect (ball handling under pressure) to be exclusive as a PG. And you don’t call that double standard?

  • TTNN

    yeah, but there are opinions more people agrees on, and there are opinions less people agrees on.

  • james brown

    i know what you mean but the point raise was, can we not call JLIN a PG then though he can be an SG also if needed on that position, just as you branded KW as a PG only because of his height limitation…Kw is a PG only player while JLIN can be a PG or SG because of his versatility and his height.

    its not semantics but better definition of each players position when inside the court..if no position was made each game, such gamer will be a CHAOS!

  • TTNN

    LOL, we started with you came here claim Lin is not a PG. I have problem with your claim and have a bigger problem with how you derived that claim.

    And you even get our main disagreement wrong.

  • james brown

    that’s why i said “nice fellow and Matured as a PLAYER” not as a person!

  • MorlockO

    if you don’t know then why are you replying and arguing for him?

  • sws94

    I don’t care what he’s called. If he facilitates, play makes, plays to his strength, you can call him a GIDG (get it done guard). It doesn’t matter. Use Lin to his strengths as a playmaker and you elevate the whole team. That was clear in the 3Q of the King’s game.

  • sws94

    Doesn’t matter to me. My opinion is what I’ve observed and thought out and I’m not afraid to go against majority opinion anywhere. It’s not validated by anything other than than the careful thought I put into it. IF someone has a stronger thought process and proves me wrong, great. But all I hear is PG vs. SG and they are just terms. What people do on the court goes beyond those position definitions and they are in flux anyway.

  • sws94

    I didn’t say that. I said he is a combo guard. Combo guards play multi-positions. Of course he can play PG and does, but he doesn’t have to play it only to be a weapon on this team. He’s not just a PG, he can play other positions as well and that’s why Cliff values him.

  • sws94

    OK.

  • blubell

    Not a basketball expert but to me Kemba hasn’t faced the ball pressure that Jeremy receives so I disagree that Kemba can handle ball pressure better than Jeremy. Also, poor passer being a ball handler seems like a bad idea. Kemba should just shoot and let Jeremy be the primary ball handler seeing that Jeremy is a better passer. This would limit Kemba’s iso plays and we would see better ball movement.

  • sws94

    I’ve seen him get rattled by ball pressure. But he’s more directional and gets rid of the ball faster. The thing that will make Lin a better ball handler is to sense the traps earlier and get rid of the ball and make the defense pay for trapping. Kemba’s crossovers and behind the back stuff is tighter. His footwork is more controlled. He’s generally less bothered and quicker up the court under full court pressure also. Of course he’s not perfect and has had the ball stolen from him. He’s not the best ball handler in the league, but he’s one of the better ones.

  • TTNN

    well, your first sentence is enough, I’m amazed you could simply deny it like that.

    If you are truly feel it is not important to you regarding PG,SG,CG, why would you to claim Lin is not PG, but Kemba is one? You never give me a definition how you separate those two, and claim that’s not important to you, yet, you are more than happy to call Lin to SG or CG, but fix Kemba as PG.

  • TTNN

    “He’s undersized for the 2. Lin is playing alt 1. Combo. That flexibility makes him valuable. I’m away from Lin is a PG. I don’t think that. I think he’s a creator/facilitator and a combo guard. I think that’s what folks here have in mind as a PG but Lin doesn’t really play like a conventional PG or even a shoot-first one .”

    Your own word.

    “Lin doesn’t really play like a conventional PG or even a shoot-first one”
    “Lin doesn’t really play like a conventional PG or even a shoot-first one”
    “Lin doesn’t really play like a conventional PG or even a shoot-first one”

    Important quote need to quote three times. LOL.

  • sws94

    I don’t and I’ve explained it enough times already.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I think he will make it based on his huge scoring nights.

  • james brown

    there’s a big difference when you’re a PG and a SG(in its truest sense of the position and Role), that’s why it is called that way..definition of roles and there’s seeming advantage of being a PG than a SG..you can see this advantage to KW way..he has always 2 options, to pass or to shoot beginning bringing the ball downcourt…the only chance an SG can do and perform is when the ball has been passed to him..either way if the PG shoots everytime, then the SG needs only to defend and rebound.(limited), but a PG is very important because f you have a PG like JLIN, team will be involved because he always thinks to facilitate first before shooting the ball (and that’s a better PG i believe so)

    Kings game, JLIn was the PG there even KW brings the ball down and KW became a non performing SG/default PG because he’s not in the flow of the game. and that’s ideally a team should play the game (hybrid Princeton and P&R plays). it will benefited KW in the long run because if he moves and goes with the flow of the play, he can be the 2nd or best be the first option of plays because the ball will comeback definitely.

  • sws94

    And? Why is it so important to so many of you what I think regarding Lin as PG or SG? I agree with people that he should facilitate over Kemba and is way superior at it. I only think Kemba is better at ball handling and maybe one-on-one moves to create his own shot. And?

    People can take different approaches to essentially what is the same thing.

  • TTNN

    “we started with you came here claim Lin is not a PG. I have problem with your claim and have a bigger problem with how you derived that claim.

    And you even get our main disagreement wrong.”

    My words.

    “And you even get our main disagreement wrong.”
    “And you even get our main disagreement wrong.”
    “And you even get our main disagreement wrong.”

    Important quotes need to repeat three times.

  • sws94

    I’m sorry but you don’t remember the games Lin brought the ball up and gave it to Harden? Or Lin bringing up the ball and giving it to Kobe or someone else and never getting it back? It’s not that simple as PG or SG. It all depends on touches more than any designation of PG or SG. As PG that was the complaint on the Lin boards. He brings it up and never sees it again. In fact, he brought it up, gave it to Harden or Kobe and went to the corner.

    Lin wasn’t any position other than facilitator on the court in the game and officially SG. All these distinctions of PG vs. SG mean nothing to me and they won’t mean anything to me. You can all disagree, good. But that’s my position on it.

  • sws94

    That’s a misinterpretation. He’s expanded beyond any position. That’s how I see him now. He’s a guard, a facilitating guard. If you need him to play PG, he does it great, especially in an open court. SG, he can do much of the same things if given the touches. I’m not stuck on the PG/SG thing, it doesn’t matter. Touches and integration into the offense with him leading it a good amount of time matters. Don’t care WHAT you call him on the court if that happens.

    Lin has a very different style of working things out. A probing style or dribble/drive style so he doesn’t look like a conventional PG or SG in my eyes. But he’s great at the Lin style when in rhythm, so who cares about those designations really? I don’t.

  • TTNN

    I have problem with your double standard, period.

    You use one standard for players whose name is not Lin, and you use a way higher standard on Lin. PG or SG is only one example.

    I have big problem with that.

  • james brown

    real sense meant real function..harden doesn’t pass or if he did at the last seconds, he always ask the ball from their designated ball carrier, and we saw that JLIN was not the PG then as being used during NYK…and why was that happened, because the COACH SAYS SO..we all know McHale dictates how JLIN do his job, no freedom..he can only do HIS THING, when fast break opportunity comes or when Harden was injured…then JLIN became the REAL PG during Houston days!

    Kings game was like houston game, JLIN being the SG and facilitates differently from harden (as KW was the PG- just like JLIN in houston)because he make plays and he pass the ball before thinking to shoot.

  • sws94

    That makes no sense. I’m not here to compare Lin to anyone but what I’ve seen his best level of play is. He’s in a situation with a structure, and like any worker has to deal with the limitations of that structure in how he’s being utilized as well as with his “coworkers”.

    I’m here because Lin has me watching basketball again after years of hating the Knicks with Melo as the “star”. Lin brought a wonderful feeling to a team and city that is special and it’s the city I’m from. Where I’ve watched basketball since the 1960s. While that time is now history, Lin is still working his magic but in a different context. That’s what I care most about.

    Let’s move on. Nothing more to say about this and I’m not changing my position.

  • TTNN

    “if given touches”, that’s the key. We all know when Lin play SG, whether he got touches all depends on PG’s mood.

    Look, there is no way Lin play SG better than PG, he has size advantage at PG, but lost that playing SG. He has his strength with transition offense, and he find people quicker in transition, you lost all that opportunity when that initial couple of seconds he don’t have the ball. He is good at directing traffic, you don’t get to do as SG.

    If you don’t want to call that PG/SG, you could change to whatever name that is, but consider the position, the role and the opponent Lin is guarding, whatever position Lin is playing now is not the best way of using Lin, Lin is more effective used as primary ball handler, (if you don’t want to call that role as PG), which he is not currently used that way. And he is not even a secondary ball handler when Batum is healthy.

  • sport

    I hope something has finally clicked in Lin and he will continue to take 17+ shots every game even he’s forced to the bench again! He’s an efficient scorer and if he wants to be seen as a starter those are the number of shots he should take every game to average 20+ points for an entire season! For star PGs 15 is the average number of shots taken! There have been too many games these past seasons where he only took 6-9 shots and that’s below average which shows in his low 10-12 PPG. No coach or GM (besides MDA?) would start him without the stats to support their argument due to all the bias against him!

  • pero_square

    Cliff not willing to buck the system by going against the wishes of his star player. Look at MDA. He tried to do the right thing in NY and LA and lost his job twice. Blatt tried to stand up to LBJ and now he’s gone too. There’s just too much money at stake so they play it safe. It takes a Popovich/Doc Rivers/Phil type with the pedigree and backing from FO to rein in their franchise players. It’s all about managing ego and frankly most NBA coaches are pretty crap at it.

  • sws94

    If he gets screens, he works from those. Lin being guarded by bigger guards makes him better.

    I believe all disadvantages forces you to work harder and turn them into advantages. So Lin is improving as an offensive player dealing with longer defenders. As PG you can put anyone on him. Pop put Leonard on him, I’ve seen Iggy play Lin when he played PG. If Lin starts penetrating, you put your best defender on him. You could call Lin a center, it wouldn’t matter. Best defender on him. Or at least a better defender on your team.

    As PG, Jeremy Lintel wrote Lin was a “ball boy” in Houston. We saw MUCH bigger misuse of Lin in Houston and LA. What saved Houston is they played fast sometimes where Lin could go crazy. But he played off-ball there too the second season and off-ball to Harden the first season.

    In Charlotte, he plays and he’s able to create even better skills the way he is utilized. That’s the way it is. Wherever Lin goes, he may never get to utilize all of his strengths because the star players are a higher priority. We may not love this, but that’s the way it is. Lin, in Charlotte, is becoming a better all-around player even if he’s not utilized to his full capacity. And that’s good.

  • sws94

    Pop has agreeable players. And rings.

  • JoeTeam

    me too, great post TTNN.

  • JoeTeam

    great post ttnn!

  • JoeTeam

    this is TTNN’s work based on Daniels’ own interview. Not KHuang’s work, and I like what KHuang posts too.

  • Lam

    And don’t let them cower you into silence. I enjoy your thoughts even if I don’t agree with all of them. Else this place will only be a Lin adulation forum.

  • JoeTeam

    because JLin needs time to figure out and break down the defense.

  • JoeTeam

    you gotta tell us how Ronda R is coming back … I don’t really like her as a celeb, I’d rather admire her as an athlete.

  • JoeTeam

    good poestry!

  • JoeTeam

    stud!

  • JoeTeam

    how about the end of regulation rebound, was that in time ? He did shot it up but not sure if the buzzer had gone off.

  • blubell

  • JoeTeam

    Some Jun Liu highlight screens, refresh to see:

    First one: NBA should give JLin another Rebound and see the fouling hand in there, 0.6 sec foul time on the clock going to 0.4. Regulation, baby! Hey, if Lillard can score in less than a sec, that foul and Reb should have been called.

    1st is when Lin got his hand on it 0.6 sec.

  • JoeTeam

    now see when JLin shoots it … he’s clearly being fouled, and he’s clearly shooting because it’s now 0.4 sec.

    Lin is not only a heads up player, he was robbed the WINNNN!!!

  • JoeTeam

    This highlight cut off when announcer said it was a jump ball, but this was called a loose ball foul on Lin. Lin has every right to go for it at this point DMC does not have control.

  • JoeTeam

    Now, see DMC momentum roll into JLin’s leg and how Lin has to dive over him to get safe? How is that a foul by Lin? (ignore this repeat pic, it’s the following one – I don’t know how to delete extra pics.)

  • JoeTeam

    oops, I meant to post this pic to show the DMC roll into Lin. (don’t know how to delete the other re-pic.)

    Notice DMC relative to that Kings crown. He rolled his hips back about 2ft, and rechecking, it was his dive momentum not a dirty play. Notice the ball is moving forward only about 1′ and Jlin is now extended over the crown to jump over and protect his knees from being twisted. This isn’t a foul, right? Ball’s still not in DMC’s control. Just checked play-by-play, Lin got called for this. Loose ball foul. Anyone know the rule?

  • JoeTeam

    This illustrates OT1 end when TTNN did that excellent analysis. The pic is at the time right when KW should have been in the corner. This backs up TTNN’s gif that is going by pretty fast. Daniels is going to meet the pass at the shooting position, and you can see clearly Kam has a great screen set. In fact, Daniels can’t come toward Lin because KW is right there as TTNN pointed out. That’s a much harder 3 where he’s running to.

  • JoeTeam

    This is the same play in OT2, just a fraction later, and now you see what TTNN was saying, that the screen was not as tight. KW is in the right place, and Daniels is catching the pass at the shooting position that was drawn up for both OTs.

  • JoeTeam

    Here’s another, just fractions before, in case you think this is the same in-play-time-stamp as the pic 2 above for OT1. TTNN was 100% right, and this all comes from one small statement by Daniels KW didn’t rung the play right “… it’s all good.”

  • JoeTeam

    PS,this is why JLin has long hair – he looks great diving for the ball, there’s speed lines on his head.

  • Barry Allen

    It did look like a foul but sometimes they may not call that in the last .4.

  • Acbc

    Sixers clobbered the Suns last night. MDA is starting to get them playing team ball.

  • JoeTeam

    Sure, that’s realistic let’s be idealistic lol.

  • Acbc

    They need backing of their GMs and FO. That’s why MDA with Sixers is so ideal. Jerry is a no nonsense guy, always has been and league office put him there for a reason. The NBA wants badly to wipe the stain of Hinkie’s tanking crap for good. Jerry was an owner and has the power of the league behind him. MDA has that kind of power now as well. Lin with the Sixers is so perfect it’s almost by some unearthly design. Call it Devine intervention, but Lin has the opportunity to do something really great next year with the Sixers.

  • Brent Yen

    not gonna happen…..i mean 17+

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Acbc

    Just remember how SAS lost 4 to Rox in regular season. Pop is too smart and he’s not using these games to do anything else but testing what he needs to do come playoffs.

    I used to do that in my prime against other top players in the club in fun matches. I don’t throw the matches as much as probe and test attacks and counters. Play and watch for tendency. There’s nothing better than matching your skills against others in real time. Watching films or scouting can be misleading. Knowing what you can do and can’t do is the key to putting together a winning strategy.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    MDA has done an excellent job for 76ers winning again. If they want Jeremy, they should think about getting Coach Silas too.

  • JoeTeam

    You definitely need to coach more, here lol.

  • JoeTeam

    Kemba, stay in the corner you put Jeremy in all the ISO times. How do you like them apples?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Troy Daniels actually traveled by moving his pivot foot before making the last shot,. It’s lucky that Hornets wasn’t called for that.

  • Weifang

    interesting finding there, I didn’t notice that at all. any other experts can explain the rule? can that hop be considered 3-step layup?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Before MDA joined 76er, the won-loss record was 1-30.
    After that it was 6-9.
    I don’t think Brett Brown was such a good coach at all. At least try to get a win for your team, coach but you only give the team a win in 31 tries.

  • Maknusia

    Just to share how Spurs operates..

    The fact is, the history is there,” West told Yahoo Sports. “You’re not going to question it. You’ve got guys like Tim, who is basically a coach. You’ve got Manu, who is basically a coach. Tony is basically a coach. They know this stuff. They know this system. They know Pop. We lean on those guys first. Then we just look to them for direction.

    “They’re not complaining. If Tim doesn’t get the ball, he doesn’t say anything. Some nights, Manu may be the distributor. Tony may be the distributor. If those guys accept it, you’ve got no choice. You just understand: That’s the way it works.”

    And works. And works. And works. All these years, all these incarnations and, yes, this franchise has evolved. Yet the Spurs’ way is unchanged.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs–evolution-includes-same-brilliant-level-of-dominance-231013698.html

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    DeMarcus Cousins: NBA shouldn’t choose All-Star starters by fan vote.
    The problem is he totally ignores who is footing his paycheck!

  • Maknusia

    lol

  • Uh-Oh

    You speak like sws94 is the only reasonable voice here. All else just adulation towards Lin. If you think people here are like that, then don’t hanging on then.

  • Maknusia

    lol…lets not be picky here…he just meant its merrier with diversity of thoughts and view

  • Uh-Oh

    Lol. Hahaha. I get what you said there. 戏如人生,人生如戏。one can only live one life, so need movies to experience and taste other kinds of life. :)

  • Uh-Oh

    OK! FINE!
    HAVE A GREAT DAY, SIR!

  • KHuang

    Yup.

    Now you guys are seeing EXACTLY what I’m seeing.

    Walker is a CANCER who is deliberately trying to knock out his teammates.

  • KHuang

    Kemba does that on EVERY play.

  • BobbyH

    Kudos to Troy Daniels singling out Walker breaking the play in OT1.

    You just don’t know how many broken plays by Walker since game 1. Cliff/Walker are losing the locker room for sure. It is like a mini Lakers situation all over again, except that Lin has the chance to play his games.

  • TTNN

    He also wasn’t credited for the rebound here, they credited as team rebound……..

  • TTNN

    3pt layup? that’s a jumper

  • Phillycheese

    Just like sometimes they don’t call the travel.

  • Phillycheese

    I take exception to your assertion to ‘all of you’. Address TTNN as he has done to you, as an individual. That is ironic, since you so readily tell posters not to rile the natives at realgm, yet you seem to be doing the same here. You actions are definitely the highest form of trolling.

  • DX

    Just hope geting better after Kemba’s all star dream and play off closing.

  • Phillycheese

    Cliff yelled at Hairston for coming towards Roberts and breaking up a play in the previous game in the first half. Yet at a much more crucial time out of a time out, no less, says not a peep when Kemba does the same. Am I the only one seeing a double std here?

  • Phillycheese

    You can say what you want about Kemba’s weaknessesbut he is undoubtably a competitor. He cares and hates to lose. Very admiable qualities. Youdon’t lead your team to Ncaa championship without that. Lets bot turn this into a Lin vs Kemba issue.

  • sws94

    all of you that take the PG over SG position. My 2nd sentence said “a lot of you” and it is a lot of people that express a similar opinion here. And saying someone is a troll isn’t cool unless they are actually trolling. Stating and defending one’s perspective is that only.

  • KHuang

    Everybody sees the double standard.

    If Clifford keeps it up, he’ll LOSE THE TEAM and GET FIRED the way Mchale did in Houston.

  • BobbyH

    Hope so. I think that’s the plan by the FO.

  • KHuang

    Koufos came over to stop the DEADLY GUY in Lin.

  • Acbc

    That’s why coach Lin is so special.

  • Brent Yen

    Let’s why some ppl think he is weak/naive…LOL

  • KHuang

    I seriously doubt any changes will be made.

  • KHuang

    I predict that the Hornets can win this game.

    It’ll go down to the wire, maybe overtime. But the Hornets ought to be able to win.

    Kemba Walker is the Hornets’ biggest opponent. His ballhogging and playbreaking badly hurts the Hornets, even when he is hitting shots or getting assists. When guys are not in the right spots because Walker is breaking the gameplan, it makes the game much harder.

    That said, Jeremy Lin has been a lifelong thorn in Utah’s side. Their guards are not quick enough to get past Lin and their forwards are not strong enough to overpower Lin. Lin will GET HIS, especially now that he’s an extremely rugged and superquick small forward playing against less rugged and slower small forwards.

    The only player that can prevent Lin from attacking the rim and dishing out to wide open teammates is Kemba Walker, but even Walker’s defense on Lin cannot fully hold Lin down anymore.

    Speaking of defense, I’d like to see Lin guard Gordon Hayward. Hayward has been wayward with the Hornets, scoring in the 30s against Hairston. Clifford is increasing his trust in Lin’s defense against small forwards, so I’d like to see Lin take on Hayward. I have no doubt that Lin can guard Hayward without fouling.

  • Alain Gervais

    Refs should never make that call

  • KHuang

    Ever since Walker entered the NBA, I’ve always viewed him as a player who had the fundamentals to play teamball and knew how to run plays properly.

    This season, though, I’ve started to change that opinion.

    Kemba Walker simply doesn’t have good team fundamentals.

    Unlike his college teammate Lamb who entered the NBA fully schooled in fundamentals, Walker seems to be unable to make basic court reads. He literally misses them every time.

    Still, it is on him and Clifford to at least TRY to run the plays. Nowadays, Walker doesn’t even do that. And that’s why I hate his game.

  • DX

    Kemba will play teamball if put him under Pop. Right now, he keep going the wrong way, but did get good stat. for himself and no blame from Coach & GM. Why not ISO? Same as Kobe and Harden.

  • sws94

    Teague being shopped? Atlanta is looking to deal him and Knicks may be interested.

  • CJSHYY

    Where did you get this news?

  • PPP
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It makes perfect sense for ATL to trade one of them since their contract will expire at the same time and I’m sure you can’t sign both of them.

    I think Schroeder could start in this league + he’s young so has potential to improve beyond what he is now.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree with you..It’s unlikely to happen “consistently”….When Lin is hot, Clifford will call more plays for him..when he’s not, there won’t be as many play callin for him.

    Also, Kemba being a shoot-first PG makes it a bit difficult…Even when Kemba was very cold, he still managed to take 25 shots, so there not too many shot left for others…..The good news was that Daniel, Hawes, Marvin and Lin made their shots at a high %…If it wasn’t for that, the Hornets would have lost because of Kemba bad shooting night.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is Lin going for the Nash’s long hair look?…Always enjoyed watching Nash long hair flopped behind his back as he sped toward the lane for a lay-up.

    Lin game is also increasingly looking like Nash….Nash didn’t have Kemba-Walker fancy dribbling moves, but he knew how to use the PnR but importantly, he had a pure jump shots…This is really what Lin needs…a very consistent jump shot to be like Nash.

  • CJSHYY
  • JAD2456

    @parentofan8thgrader psalm234
    Hi, everyone,
    1. I finally finished the list and videos of the Nonsense Fouls/Non-calls on Lin.
    I put the list in the thread, Jeremy Lin NBA Missed Stats & Non-Calls.
    http://www.jlinportal.com/jeremy-lin-nba-missed-stats/
    Please take a look ! If you have found other fouls are not listed there or any suggestions, please let me know.

    2. I put the most blatant and brutal five flagrant/hard foul non-calls (The Brutal Five) in one video. They also have their individual video from various uploaders, so I created a Playlist for all the fouls on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnteRc9IDNTcYfmawJSeGhh0_jBP-avsz. You can see them in the above thread I mentioned.

    Here is the Brutal Five video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyKOp9fwb0

    4/25/2014 Rockets Playoff G3 @ Trail Blazers: OT @4:02 – Lin got hammered in the head by Aldridge and fell down hard => Just a common foul, not even a Flagrant 1.
    Based on NBA Video Rulebook, this should be at least a Flagrant foul Penalty 1 (Contact to the head & Contact to opponent’s face). http://videorulebook.nba.com/rule/flagrant-foul-penalty-1/

    10/31/2014 vs Clippers: 4Q @4:06 – DeAndre Jordan hammered Lin with lots of body contact on the drive, Jordan should be fouled out (6th foul) => Non-call + DeAdre Jordan got a block!

    12/28/2015 vs Lakers: 2Q @0:22 – Kobe Bryant smashed Lin in the face and the neck, Lin fell down => Not a flagrant foul, just a common foul. The refs didn’t even review that play.

    1/9/2016 @ Clippers: 4Q @10:14 – Jeremy Lin got hit in the face (nose bleed) by Wesley Johnson and also got fouled by Jamal Crawford on the drive => Non-call at all.

    1/23/2016 vs Knicks: 2Q @3:57 – Carmelo Anthony gave Lin an uppercut slap in the face. => Not a flagrant foul, just a common foul.

    Parent of Lots of Kids, please write a letter about this! We’ll count on you to stop the brutal abuse on Lin by the NBA refs. Thank you!

  • blubell
  • BobbyH

    Great works. My respect for your diligent efforts !!!

    Are these 2 videos the same?

  • JoeTeam

    “If Tim doesn’t get the ball, he doesn’t say anything.”

  • Alain Gervais

    Jeremy Lin is ranked 275 in the league in salary http://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/

  • JoeTeam

    Maybe, or maybe they should make calls according to the rules. You see, it’s pretty clear because the buzzer had not gone off, JLin was jumping toward the ball and yet without even coming down for a rejump, he’s leaning backwards. It was clear to me there was non-cylindrical contact watching it from TV angle why not the ref right in that pic frame? (see the game thread). Idealistic = following the rules. Bbball has vid. Even rugby now has vid for years. Only soccer does not have vid. These days, you walk down the street and there’s vid. This isn’t a risky call, it’s physics and vid. Ya, you are right, I understand.

  • blubell

    Please “Be Polite & Be Respectful” per our site rule.
    He was not trying to spread rumors but merely asking for other’s input.

  • blubell

    Does that make Tim passive as well? LOL.

  • blubell
  • Alain Gervais

    i don’t want the refs to decide the winner in the end. Players every year wine about contact late in game. Too bad. Make the shot. This is the way the NBA has always been. Lin dint make the shot. Game over move on. Unless the foul was egregious. Move along folks nothing here to see.

  • new UTA game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g46-cha-uta-game-thread/

    JLin has hit his stride to orchestrate team-offense with 11 assists to help the Hornets get 3 winning streak but Kemba ISOs dominated the 4th quarter and OT at the expense of team-ball. It’s good that JLin can connect with a hot-shooting Troy Daniels for the winning 3pt shot in the 2nd OT

    -Will JLin be allowed to continue to orchestrate the offense so the Hornets can play a winning team-ball?

    -Will Kemba take over in the 4th quarter to play hero-ball?

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s pray and hope that gets to be 100% healthy soon and will have a chance to be the playmaker to help the Hornets to win

  • JoeTeam

    wouldn’t that have been glory had he made that shot yes.

  • blubell

    @JAD2456:disqus can you re-post this on the new thread? I’ll feature it so more people can see it.

  • JoeTeam

    lol. you spell it out. Let’s have fun, let’s just say now TDuncan is passive aggressive and see how many people disagree 🙂 Flamers on the boards have called Lin passive aggressive too as false narrative.

  • Alain Gervais

    I’ve been waiting since the toronto game during insanity. I didn’t notice how selfish so called stars are. If Kemba borderline allstar player can break plays like that and get no reaction from the coach then I completely understand why harden was a diva. Why he doesn’t play defense. Kemba is haif the player harden is. Kemba has the hornets in his control.

  • jakey

    The only notable pass I remember from KW was the bounce pass to Lin for an easy bucket.

  • great job w/the video!

    i still think there’s reason to think that melo went for the ball.

    i think it’s worth posting jason kidd’s hair grab.

  • JoeTeam

    So let’s just call this thread one to look for those moments of glory and inspiration and call it a GOOD Day! lol, nod to KHuang.

    Yes, many people in positions of power do not do their job and make life v hard for people under their authority to even function right. This happens in families, companies, teams. My thing is if people have responsibility and authority, they must use it well for the greater good. The opposite, responsibility without authority, that’s a tough place to be. So I’m happy if JLin does not take responsibility, and yet he does even at his $2m.

  • heart

    Yep. That was when Lin had a clear cut to the basket. KW had no choice bc he was trapped in the corner. We saw that coming. However, the one that Lin passed to Hansborough, we didn’t know if he was going to shoot it or pass after it had happened so quickly. He bounced passed the rock to Hans in a very narrow space between two defenders. That’s why I like Hans’ PnR. He moved to where he needed knowing that Lin could shoot instead of passing to him. And he could tip the rock back in if need be.

  • JoeTeam

    Heh heh, afterthought, that makes Lin as good as TDuncan, as least from the confidence perspective.

  • wu kong

    the Carmelo upper cut was not even a foul on Carmelo but Afflalo…http://www.nba.com/games/20160123/NYKCHA/gameinfo.html#Q2

  • heart

    Very good find. Thank you.

  • adele

    He knows Lin won’t scream back at him.

  • adele

    He will still be in the nba Khuang, he can be a good assistant coach and later a head coach or a gm

  • Linzen

    You are so right… but sometimes I wish he would… 🙂

  • JAD2456

    Thanks for pointing that out! I really missed it. I’ve made corrections to the list and added some comment to the video. Thanks!
    The non-call on Carmelo really angers me more now.