Hornets Got Torched by the Heat with No TeamBall and Defense; Shaq Said Lin Needs Double-Figures for the Hornets To Win

The bad news from the 32pt Hornets 91-123 loss was the rude awakening by the experienced Heat team that the type of (no) defense and no (teamball) should never be displayed again. The good news is the game was mercifully over.

Jeremy Lin played well in his limited role as the 3rd playmaker behind Batum and Kemba to finish with 9P🏀3A🏀2R(2/4 FG) in 25 min. He displayed his playoff experience by driving inside and baited fouls to draw FTs (5-6) efficiently. Oddly he had the team high 3 assists, more than a combined 2 assists from Batum and Kemba.

The Hornets were completely overwhelmed by the Heat:

1. No defense
Hornets got outrebounded 28-42 by the Heat. All season long, the Hornets big men were unable to rebound well and they were no match for Hassan Whiteside who had 21pts/11rebs with 9-11 shooting. The Heat overpowered the Hornets with 14-7 offensive rebounding advantage. Will Coach Clifford call Tyler Hansbrough to counter with toughness and rebounding? Or he will wait until the Hornets are down 0-3?

2. No TeamBall
The Hornets had much fewer assists 11-27 than the Heat. This was more than Luol Dieng, Whiteside, Wade getting hot shooting but they played as a team. Dragic and Wade combined for 17 assists while Kemba and Batum combined for a measly 2 assists (in 32 min and 40min). Lin finished with a team high 3 assists in 25 min. Batum would need to play like the primary facilitator and not for the upcoming Free Agency. Kemba needs to trust that ball movement would help to get a win.

3. Bad Starter Lineup
Hornets starters were outscored in a combined 27-45 in 1st and 3rd quarter before any substitutes came in.
(15-28 in Q1 & 12-17 in Q3). Will the starting lineup change? Possibly not until Hornets are down 0-2 or 0-3. But the Hornets desperately need a reliable big man who can slow down Whiteside inside. Will Clifford try Big Al or Tyler Hansbrough? Only time will tell.
Jeremy Lin would need to be more involved in the Hornets offense as the main playmaker because he can help the Hornets to play an unselfish team-ball by finding open teammates and facilitating ball movement. Shaq O’Neal also indicated that Lin would need to be in double-figures (10+pts) for the Hornets to win.

MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game X vs ???
  • GameWatcher

    First!

  • I am The Jason

    It seems the Hornets decimated any dreams of them making it to Cleveland for the Conference Finals.

  • JJ Hui

    3rd!!!

  • JoeTeam

    or, maybe it’s just now clear how badly the team is coached. We’ve been living off moments of greatness where a combo of JLin playing well, other teams coming not prepared, JLin matched to great challenges, etc. have fooled us into thinking this team has potential. But, coached as is, it has none. I’m sure JLin knows that and that is why he’s happily serving out his 1 yr.

    So now we just need to see how badly Hornets want to win, and if they don’t, everyone moving ahead to talk about summer FA – they are right.

  • 热情的lychee

    forth!

  • JoeTeam

    nice writeup, psalms. There is definitely room to adjust and come back to the mean, and my conclusion is it’s a long shot to advance now. KW ball is really not going to work, so they would have to do something like Kerr did to listen to the video guy … put Iggy on LeBron and go small. Is there such an openness to obvious ideas in CHA FO, and if so, will they do it? We know it will work, because JLin has led CHA to wins against SAS, CLE, TOR, and I think BOS.

    Happy week!

  • Phillycheese

    shaq is right, more shots Lin.

  • sws94

    I’m no fan of Kerr’s devaluing Lin as a player (he did so a lot as an announcer), but he’s a really solid coach. Clifford is not as daring or open-minded nor can he strategically match move for move with the better coaches. He can get the guys to play hard, but he overuses some guys while underutilizing others. Funny thing is he’s done both to Lin. Over-used him in minutes when any big player he can step in for is injured yet underutilized his facilitation and ability to run the fast-break masterfully.

    I do think that it is accurate to say JLin led the way against SAS, CLE, TOR and BOS as well as the Knicks a few games. That’s another area Cliff has yet to really exploit.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, that’s ancient history. He was paid to be smarter than anyone else and to make us smarter. Now he’s paid to win and keep a dynasty forming. I bet if the situation were right for JLin, he’d be an excellent coach for Lin. Only, I don’t see it being right, so Kerr is always going to have to coach against Lin for at least the next set of contract cycles.

    Yes, Kerr was more open than Cliff. That’s what I mean, it doesn’t look good for CHA, and yet, the answer is so obvious to us. Every practice, put Lin in the game and talk about ball movement and winning as a team. Encourage KW to look at the tape when he still scored big, unguarded, because JLin was pulling triple coverage. Etc.

    Yes, we need Cliff to live in those game tapes (SAS, CLE, TOR, BOS, NYK) to see in his own minds eye how it can be done.

  • CJSHYY

    Not sure how reliable this news is but if it’s true then…. ?

    https://twitter.com/kc1nyk/status/722185058057064448

  • Rick Johnson

    If you look at the on / off court stats:

    Walker
    On Court NetRtg -50.4
    Off Court NetRtg -4.9

    http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612766/onoffcourt/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1

    So in other words they were almost fairly matched with Kemba out but getting blown away when he’s in. Kind of matched what I was seeing.

  • PPP

    ??? Atkinson?

  • kittyhead

    It’s weird Shaq mentioned Lin twice though I think Lin did well on both ends in his limited role.

  • Rick Johnson

    He must not be that secure in his job as coach of the 76ers if he’s looking for other jobs. Also could mean Nets were trying to recruit him away from the 76ers too I guess. Wouldn’t a team usually ask another teams FO if they could talk to their active coach? 76ers must have given them permission to talk to him then. Plot thickens.

  • takeme2cruz

    Baseless nonsense report.

  • I am The Jason

    Shaq knows who the real x-factor is for this team.

  • I am The Jason

    Only way Brett Brown could have been in the mix is if he does not have a head coaching job. Currently he has one. Sound like someone is stirring the pot in Philly.

  • Phillycheese

    Miami is full of big guards. I think Hornets should definitely play Lin more minutes and Kemba fewer. Unkess Kemba is shooting well, his defense is limited against Miami. He’s just too short and nit good getting through picks. Lin should start if you ask me, with Kemba coming off the bench with Al.

  • occupatio

    kemba is a nobody against good defensive teams. we seen it in the regular season. hes only good for padding against bad and mediocre teams.

    anyway, the heat are a bad matchup for hornets period. at nearly every position, they have the advantage.

  • CaliUSMC

    I like Shaq even more after this!

  • i love that after everything said about Kemba, the last line of the video, Shaq sneaks/throws in the “and Jeremy Lin has to get in double figures.”

  • kauaiblue

    Shaq mentioning jlin twice… knows what hes talking about… i really like kenny smith but his assessment that walker has to shoot MORE is dubious…

  • Yascar

    Has this been posted? It appears Lin turned down Nets before. https://twitter.com/zesty_hornets/status/722193499605573632

  • Linzen

    Hustle stats from last game… not sure if TTNN has already posted here…
    https://twitter.com/22NN4/status/721861440995352576

  • zxcvb

    Whoa. Very interesting. I can see why Lin turned it down — Hollins was NOT the coach for him and Nets MLE offer would have been for 3 years. CHA had the opt-out and 2016 summer is much better for Jeremy with few PGs on the market and a potential MDA reunion (and now Atkinson).

    Great to know the Nets were still interested in Lin. There were reports in previous seasons about front office guys wanting him but Billy King saying no. This is the first time it’s been reported that they talked to him last summer, though. Lin’s dad said that 7-9 teams called him. I guess Nets were in there too.

    NY media and fans are really beating the drum for “Brook-Lin.” Let’s hope it comes true. At least if MDA isn’t the head coach in Philly.

  • Yascar

    I think you’re right about Hollins. That might have been a disaster for him this year. But next year? I don’t know. I’m beginning to believe. I like that they’re not all raw rookies in there and they’ve just hired a good coach. Let’s see what happens.

  • real-dsb

    Every Hornet player and coach should be spending all their time from now to Wed analyzing film. They got exploited and outschemed big time in Game 1. Hornets need to figure out their defensive teamwork.

    The Hornets beat the Heat in Miami just a month ago. Same starters/players. The main difference is that in the regular season game, CHA had +5 rebounding and -7 less turnovers than MIA.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400828901

    Each game can often have a totally different flow, so it’s entirely possible for the Hornets to be more even with MIA in Game 2. Let’s go Lin!

  • zxcvb

    As long as they have come competent veteran bigs, and they do in Lopex and Lopez, I’m happy. Even young guys like Kilpatrick and Bogdanovic can be good with Lin feeding them easy 3s.

    Lin prefers to play without star egos anyway. Once he establishes himself under Atkinson, then they can bring in another quality player to take them to the next level. For now, it’s all about Lin getting a fair chance and bringing Nets back to respectability.

  • zxcvb

    If there were any evidence to suggest that Cliff makes adjustments, then I’d be optimistic. But man, it’s the same story all season long. He sticks with his favorites, his plans, no matter what.

  • Nolimitation

    For some strange reason I rather Cliff just bench Lin or have him play garbage time throughout the remaining series. This way all the other coaches plus media can still have the remaining perception of Lin beating Spurs, Cavs, etc during the regular season. Then they can say why didn’t you utilize Lin in the playoffs. Its much better perception than Lin standing around for 25 mins, which could damage his brand little more.

  • DX

    Understand what you mean, but Lin need chance not just eat history.

  • Alain Gervais

    They actually change a ton. Including the starting line up and tempo. They also are playing slower. The playoffs often comedown to players who can creat there own shot and shot for others. Hornets have 2 in Lin and datum. Batum wasn’t passing much. Lin didn’t play much.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    We know this for the whole season. No surprise there at all.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    He even said that in postgame. So, no hope there. 3 more games for me to endure Hornets. That’s it!

  • heart
  • zxcvb

    I expect Lin will get ONE chance to play his game this series (just like the POR/HOU series). That’ll help his profile. Until then, he should 1) Stay healthy 2) Stay efficient if underused 3) Stay ready for his “takeover” game.

  • LinMad

    still buzzing I see. Probably going to be talked about throughout playoffs.

  • takeme2cruz

    …refuse to admit.

  • LinMad

    of course they won’t admit it.

  • LinMad

    If Lin does well in that one chance, Cliff may have to play Lin the same way the rest of the series if it’s the only chance they have to win.

  • heart

    Glad the author said it straight up in his title. Keeping tab on this then later we can also contact these authors for future stories on Lin.

  • zxcvb

    Lin beat the Cavs w/o Kemba, but when Kemba came back, it was all Kemba Ball in the next Cavs game.

  • LinMad

    Charlotte didn’t want to give Whiteside a chance? If Whiteside was on this team this season…

  • DrewBear2

    The articles are good, but the greater impact will be from ESPN and other commentators talking about anything remotely flagrant during the playoffs. The negative side effect is the refs are pissed at being called out and won’t be giving Lin any of the marginal calls. At least one of the offensive fouls he received yesterday was questionable and he got called for a fairly lame foul on the defensive end.

  • LinMad

    After losing that badly in game 1, everyone should be going to the optional Hornets practice…not just Lin or whoever was there.
    https://twitter.com/JustinVerrier/status/722130169108901888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • sws94

    Disagree. What did Lin do in the Boston game so many posters didn’t want him to play in? Had one of the most dynamic, incredible 19 point 4 steal quarters he’s had in his career. If he’s out there he can strike at any time. He doesn’t need anything other than that window to open just that bit and he gets it going. He doesn’t need to rest on any recent laurels. Create more magic, take that gamble. High risk. High reward. That’s the Lin way that I know of.

  • sws94

    All barriers can be broken. Kemba, no Kemba, no barrier is insurmountable. We don’t know when he’ll strike but he’s struck with Kemba on the court, Batum on the court, sometimes both. Let him play and when the time and all things are right, he’ll strike.

  • heart

    That’s why we all need to document on the tic-tac and phantom fouls from now on. That should be for another video. It could be called—Retaliation of the refs for tic-tac/phantom fouls….

  • DrewBear2

    Clifford has already stated he will not be making knee-jerk changes after one game. We can speculate on why the first game was such a blowout, but no one doubts that the Hornets as a whole played way below their capabilities and the Heat were just smoking hot. If the Hornets can somehow squeeze out a win in game 2, the whole storyline for this series does a 180º turn.

  • DrewBear2

    In one of the articles the lady who posted that video said she has enough material for another video. I’d rather she stick with the truly flagrant fouls and not waste time on things like Terry pushing.

    It’s useless to try and document phantom fouls. The superstars are going to get those calls during the regular season, but not as much during the playoffs. This is a separate matter and should not be confused with the malicious cheap shots that could seriously injure a player.

  • LinMad
  • Whitman Lam

    Lots of teams passed on Whiteside, even the Rockets who I grudgingly admit can recognize untapped potential in bottom of the barrel players.

  • vincent

    no! lol i live in Philly

  • heart

    The Terry’s shove brings light to the ‘thuggish’ attitude (like some would say) and draws out the question that is obvious to some but not talked about.

  • Nolimitation

    And yet he gets called for ticky tack fouls against him.

  • DrewBear2

    Was there any doubt this off-season was going to be interesting for JLin fans? Sounds like a good move for the new GM.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/17984/hawks-players-detail-why-nets-hire-of-kenny-atkinson-is-a-slam-dunk

  • heart

    http://sportige.com/charlotte-hornets-miami-heat-jeremy-lin-steve-clifford-kemba-walker-al-jefferson-94708/
    Greg Owens summed up Game 1, Heat vs Hornets, 4/17/2016, in this excerpted quote:
    “But Clifford doesn’t change, and no one seemed to be in a mood to share the ball. Dwyane Wade bullied Lin to the basket three times while no help in the form of double teams or some bigger player coming to help and protect the basket was in sight.”

  • DrewBear2

    Again, another fight for another day. The reason that video is so compelling is the obviousness of those flagrant fouls. Keep hammering on the vicious nature of these fouls on Jeremy. Focus on this one thing and hopefully Lin gets some measure of protection for the rest of his career.

    Edit: Just to be clear, I agree with your points. I simply think it’s better to focus on one topic at a time when trying to make a case to the broad public and the NBA bigwigs.

  • LinMad

    Zeller, Al and Frank got manhandled on rebounds/defense and decided to focus on offense only.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yeah but he’s now a lot more than 5mil

  • guest

    Lin needs to play a lot more in this series. He provides better help defense in the paint against Whiteside while having the speed to challenge perimeter shooters. Unless Kemba can play better help defense, this series is over. Also the PnR defense is horrible. Batum leaves the big man to double on the shorter guards. Without Jeremy to orchestrate the defense, this team is lost. Watch the next couple games how Lin will orchestrate even if he doesn’t get the ball as much. These are the intangibles that don’t show up on the stats, except as wins! I think he will step up and be more vocal! Last games of the season, he was pointing, yelling, anticipating plays, a Leader! That’s what it’s going to take to beat the Heat.

  • John Focker

    The real X-Factor is Kemba: the less he touches the ball the more likely Hornets are to win.

  • takeme2cruz

    Expecting game 2 will be different. Not because Cliff wants to but has to. He will unleash Lin just like how he’s desperate need to get a win from any elite team.

  • heart

    Agree. I’m just talking about collecting data for future use which can only help if need be. Ye, we should focus on the flagrant topic now, but if the refs retaliate to stop Lin’s games by calling tic-tac/phantom fouls then we will have to address that at a later or at the right time. Timing is everything. For now, the momentum is on the flagrant foul, so it helps to deter the players from ‘roughing up’ Lin, but they will also find other ways to stop Lin’s game knowing that the refs will side w/ them. Case in point: To me, Lin received 2 bogus offensive fouls from Deng and Winslow in game 1 vs Heat. Those cost him 2TOs in his stat.

  • Durant shooting at 6/29 right now… that’s even worse than Kobe!

  • sws94

    21/11 for Felton. Never know what will happen in a game. Good for Felton for his big game tonight. Mavs may even win. And this is after a blowout loss. That’s why we can’t count Charlotte out.

  • CJSHYY

    Mav plays well vs OKC. I really cheer for Felton. He plays good today. Hope Mav can get this win. 81:81 w 57 sec left

  • sws94

    83-81 Mavs. now.

  • sws94

    Durant can’t buy a basket tonight. Crazy. 85-81 now. Mavs seem to want it more tonight.

  • CJSHYY

    I know. I am so happy for him!!!

  • sws94

    Clutch 3 for Durant. Throw up enough one is bound to go in.

  • Whitman Lam

    Mavs playing their style of slow paced basketball. Keeping a fast, athletic ream in check.

  • heart

    Let’s hope so. Usually after 2 losses, Cliff wants a win. Yesterday was so embarrassing I hope he would want to redeem quicker or else he will be exiting the playoffs after 4 straight losses. No matter what, I pray that Lin will get good stat for the rest of the series, God’s willing.

  • 7/32 is nothing to be proud of… but he made it when it mattered!

  • sws94

    Felton totally chokes missing 2 FTs. Adams shot may not be good. Mavs might win after the review.

    Mavs win.

  • sws94

    It’s pretty bad. But, the best players have those types of nights.

  • sws94

    OK, Felton is upset at himself for missing the FTs. He should be.

  • CJSHYY

    I thought he failed the hard work for tonight. Glad they won!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! So glad he got this won. Saw Cuban hug him.

  • sws94

    Let’s see if Harden bounces back from last game. no Curry tonight for GSW.

  • sws94

    He played great, don’t know what happened on those FTs.

  • CJSHYY

    I know I was so upset…. Don’t want OKC won. Plus Felton really played very well tonight. Really happy for him. Now hope Rox loss again.

  • CJSHYY

    Matthew guarded him well. Cuban 18 m finally work.

  • sws94

    Rockets look terrible so far. Harden’s defense is, well, what defense?

  • sws94

    They look well on their way to losing again. They look awful so far.

  • sws94

    He’s a really great defender.

  • JJ Hui

    Please help me! Thanks in advance!
    I couldnt log in Jlinportal site profile and this keeps coming up!

  • sws94

    Rockets doing better now. But, GSW is just cruising.

  • Briiick

    Rox’s playoff star has always been Josh Smith, who is Harden ?

  • kauaiblue

    Why? Felton is a chump. He baf mouthed jlin… And mavs didnt treat our boy well…

  • NONONO

    It looks like a lot of discussions about Lin joining Brooklyn next season.

  • NONONO

    “I think we could start Lin from day 1, and he would fall right in the same tier as guys like Goran Dragic, Jeff Teague, Jrue Holiday and Reggie Jackson.

    From there, he’s better than a handful of other starters in the league, and can keep up with any of the top superstars on a hot night. What’s not to like? Heck with stop, gap. He’s 27 years old. I’d be fine keeping him around for a long time.

    A few years ago Houston started him 82 games, Pre-Dwight Howard. He put up 13 points and 6 assists. Could that grow to an efficient 15 and 8? If he can average something close to that the rest of his career he can retire in Brooklyn.

    Who am I kidding, people don’t retire in Brooklyn. They move to NJ then Florida.

    Check out my Fanpost, “The Flush”…

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2015/6/11/8768347/the-flush-with-coach-joe

    by Coach Joe on Apr 18, 2016 | 10:15 PM reply”

  • NONONO

    If the starters dig a -15 pts hole again in 1st quarter, Lin would play 30 mins.

  • JoeTeam

    Lol harden can’t get to the rim with left guarded. Much less hou fouling without steph on the floor.

  • james brown

    that’s the problem with hornets (as well as with BS, in lakers), jlin needs to look for that windows of opportunity because its not there for him as freely given by cliff. he is needed as a limited role player and not part of the main as when cliff feels the pressure.

    but saying that, his presence and time can give him the chance to get that opportunity. he needs to work, and WORK HARD!

    just like SHAQ said> jlin needs to commad his offensive game to get the hornets the win!

  • james brown

    ref will always be blind if they opt to!

  • james brown

    better than sulking, make yourself better..thinking is with coach and execution is in the players!

  • sws94

    I think limited role player is a HUGE exaggeration. Lin may not get over 30 minutes a night like some others, but he plays a big role on the team. I think he is absolutely considered one of the main players, just like Marvin and Cody and Al are. Even more than Al to be honest.

  • sws94

    James, a limited role player is someone like Daniels or Hawes. Lin is a 6th man. A guy who can change the energy of the game and takeover both scoring and facilitating. On the Hornets boards Lin is considered at least by some of the fair-minded posters as one of the major players along with Batum, Kemba and Marv.

  • takeme2cruz

    For the integrity of the game, NBA should fire most of their refs. Maybe they should start with the top, Adam Silver.

  • sws94

    Harden is playing a Harden game. 16 points, 12 from the FT line.

  • John Focker

    Why fire them? It took years of polishing for them to work smoothly with Vegas!

  • takeme2cruz

    What I meant was for the integrity of the game not sin city.

  • John Focker

    So Vegas called and Harden is getting body hair whistles again…

  • james brown

    the windows are not there..cliff limit him to the point because kw needs all the point..limited because he’s a PG and second a SG and not the other way around..cliff needs to see and act on it, but right now, he’s just seeing it but no action. playoff game, batum and kw holding the ball more and lee making it as if another pg comes except for jlin.

    he reinvent himself if that what you mean..6th man, aljeff comes first than lin? granting but not agreeing, 6th man is a role player, plain and simple!

  • John Focker

    In all fairness, you did not specify which GAME. 🙂

  • takeme2cruz

    That shows those refs are a joke.

  • takeme2cruz

    all

  • james brown

    marv is a starter for cliff even during the first game start..code was grown into cliff mind because Al was not working and subject of a trade that din not happened. but jlin was never a starter for cliff!

  • John Focker

    Sigh, you’re having such a slow day.

  • heart

    Harden didn’t redeem himself like someone said on the other site, the refs did for the last game for not giving Harden bogus fouls.

  • takeme2cruz

    yeah, at least 2 3-point shot fouls were lousy.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    If Dallas Mavericks can make do with Delvin Harris, Raymond Felton etc, think what they can do with Jeremy Lin.
    I’m sure the head coach there know what they need to make the team a contender. Of course Mark Cuban is not basketball smart but his GM and head coach are better than those of most teams.

    Another choice for Jeremy Lin next season should be the MAVERICKS.

    Based on the posting here, I would think Jeremy could be recruited heavily by the 76ers, Nets and Mavericks next season because they all have one thing in common: not much draft choices. However Dallas has a weakness in their capspace. They have already given a fat contract to Wes Matthews, the ex-teammate of Nick Batum. Chandler Parsons also took up lots of the cap space but they do have up and coming young talents and underrated team players.

    As time go, we would know more teams that may need Lin’s service to take their team to the next level for them to survive in the ever competitive league.

  • Win

    Was on a trip but did able to watched most of the game.

    If you guys remember, I have mentioned countless times before the seeding was set that Heats is the worst match up for the Hornets out of the entire eastern playoff teams . As I have predicted, Whiteside has gave the Hornets all kind of problem on both ends of the floor. If Heats can dominated the board like this every single game in this series, Hornets is gonna have a major problem to even win one game out of this series.

    The Hornets didn’t shot particularly good or bad in this game except Marvin. Honestly I don’t think it will makes a big different even if Lin played as PG or have more touches. Hornets have total of 28 rebounds but five of them came from the garbage time. So at one point Heats are out rebound Hornets by 41-23. I really doubt any team can win if they got out rebounded like that and gave up 56 points in paint.

    Below is a few extra thoughts after game one.

    1) Hornets doesn’t really have a rim protector but they are still very good on the defensive end the entire season because Clifford has utilized the quickness of our guards/wings for help defense down low and expect our guards/wings can recover to the shooter once the other team kick out the ball. However, credit to Erik Spoelstra, instead of kick the ball out, he has chosen to have Whiteside to used his power and athleticism to score over the big or the help defense (Lin, Lee) in a pick and roll. Amare did the same in few possessions.

    2) Whiteside is a bad match up for Cody. Both players are very athletic but Whiteside is 20+ lbs over Cody. Maybe we can start Al instead of Cody as I think Whiteside actually will have some problem to handle the “Alfense”. This way maybe we are able to get Whiteside in foul trouble early. Maybe we can even throw a curveball by playing Tyler Hansbrough for a few minutes to irritate Whiteside a bit.

    3) Deng was hot and there is really nothing you can do about it. However I don’t believe he will have the same performance every night.

    4) I actually think Lin was doing ok this game. Yes he didn’t shot the ball much but still able to get to the line and have 3 assist which was a team high surprisingly. Also it is not Lin false that Wade can score over him. Wade is 20 lbs heavier than Lin and it is hard to guard him when Wade is posting up on Lin. Help defense have to come before Wade getting close to the basket.

    5) Kemba is the usual self which is not very effective on the defensive end but really the entire team were bad on the defensive end.

    6) Lee just got outplayed on the defensive end and a held the ball too long in few possessions. Maybe because it is a playoff game so he wants to show people that he is more than a 3 & D player?

    7) Total of 11 assist??? This is not the usual Hornets basketball and they better make adjustment if they wanna even win one game in this series.

    8) Marvin was bad at both end of the floor. Hopefully he can bounce back the next game.

    I hope Clifford able to make adjustment on Whiteside which I believe it was the biggest problem in game 1 as otherwise Hornets might get sweep once again in the first round. And that’s not good for Lin in the up coming FA neither.

  • CJSHYY

    Agree. smh!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Whatever Clifford said, the first game blew up right on his face. He knows that if he does poorly in the playoff, his job could be in jeopardy soon. There are precedent case that coaches who couldn’t do well in the playoff get fired.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Morey knows so little about basketball that he is behind in all aspects of the modern basketball game. Just look at how D12 and the beard, his prized possessions, get him a hole that he has no chance of getting out of it.

  • sws94

    OK, I guess they want to watch him go to the line. He’s really not playing that well. But it’s a typical Harden game.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Yeah, Brett Brown has absolutely achieved nothing in NBA. What makes people think that he’s a contender for the job is beyond common sense.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    LOL Adam Silver is trying to push the betting of basketball games.

  • Rick Johnson
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A fake superstar pushing by Morey and the media alone. Now Sam Hinkie is out, the next to fall is no-Morey.

  • CJSHYY

    Alex already said Morey will stay… I think I want Morey & Harden tie together in Rox for next 10 years.

  • John Focker

    Shaq’s on a roll, I’ve never liked him much but now I’m a fan. 🙂

  • 22cents

    Just because he said Lin should be the man! Ha Ha.

    I never liked Shaq when he was in LA. But I dislike Kobe more.

  • John Focker

    I think Kobe’s the grand champion of jerks in the NBA, title unchallenged.

  • JoeTeam

    he pretty much dove at 45 degrees to get a 3 foul off Clark … terrible ref.

  • james brown

    “Honestly I don’t think it will makes a big different even if Lin played as PG or have more touches.”…i honestly say i DISAGREE with these words simply because, knowing JLIN well, he already PROVEN he can change the scenario of the game if given the chance,

    “Hornets might get sweep once again in the first round. And that’s not good for Lin in the up coming FA neither.”…..
    if he was the main PG and main guy, jlin FA will never be good because he has proven he can’t carry the team..

    but he’s not, and he’s bench right now with good stat as a starter..whatever happened on this playoff, other teams already looking at the possibility of jlin on their team, and thats GOOD for his coming FA!

  • james brown

    i think barkley and shaq are all jerks..but good players indeed!

    kobe…good riddance.

  • Win

    Haha. I am not sure even a PG Lin can overcome 56 points in da paints and 18 out rebounded. But I have no doubt at all the Lin is a starting PG in this league.

    As far as FA agent is concern, no doubt Lin will draw A LOT OF INTEREST FROM A LOT OF TEAMS FOR SURE! What I meant was it will be even better and more convincing if Hornets can do good in da playoff.

  • Win
  • CJSHYY

    NBA will not let anyone to question Ref authority power. I heard from commentators said Stan told his players don’t expect any foul call from LBJ he can do whatever he wants….

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    @psalm213 Please check your email with the title “Still Too Flagrant Not to Call.v5.” Discard the rest from me:-)

  • Dan Ang

    NY always has LIn’s back!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Look at the big money players of the Mavericks in descending order.

    Wes Matthews $16,407,500
    Chandler Parsons $15,361,500
    Dirk Nowitzki $8,333,334
    Deron Williams $5,378,974
    Zaza Pachulia $5,200,000
    J.J. Barea $4,290,000
    Delvin Harris $4,053,446
    Raymond Felton $3,950,313
    David Lee $2,085,671
    Justin Anderson $1,449,000
    JaVale McGee $1,270,964
    Jeremy Evans $1,100,602
    Charlie Villanueva $947,276
    Dwight Powell $845,059
    Salah Mejri $525,093

    The players that played in the game that they prevailed over the Thunders according to minutes played in descending order.

    R. Felton 42 minutes 21 points 11 rebounds 3 assists 1 steal 4 TOs (8th in salary)
    D. Nowitzki 38 minutes 17 points 4 rebounds 1 assist 2 TO (3rd in salary)
    W. Matthews 36 minutes 6 points 6 rebounds 1 assist 2 steal (1st in salary)
    S. Mejri 28 minutes 12 points 3 rebounds 3 blocks 1 assist (15th in salary)
    D. Williams 26 minutes 13 points 1 rebound 5 assists 4 TOs (4th in salary)
    D. Harris 26 minutes 8 points 7 rebounds 2 assists 2 steals (7th in salary)
    Z. Pachulia 20 minutes 2 points 6 rebounds 1 steal (5th in salary)
    J. Anderson 14 minutes 6 points 5 rebounds 1 assist 1 steal 1 block 1 TO (10th in salary)
    D. Powell 10 minutes 0 point 2 rebounds 1 TO (14th in salary)
    The rest DNP.
    Assuming 9 players rotation.
    3 players were played despite they were paid beyond they top 9 paid players.
    2nd, 6th, 9th paid players did not play at all in the playoff game.

    Their highest paid player Wes Matthews played a very mediocre game.

    Their next highest paid player did not play at all.

    This is a summary for the Dallas roster based on their last victory over the mighty Thunder. Team like this shouldn’t be in the playoff at all.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I agree. Houston deserve to have both for the next decade. I’m surprised that the Rockets can go to the playoff at all next season.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Inside The NBA: Heat Blow Out Hornets
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG9IEIYTYMk

  • zxcvb

    Lin, Lopez, Young, Bogdanovic and Kilpatrick are all about the same age. 27, 28, 27, 27, 26. Bazemore is 26 too.

    That group could gel quickly next year. Old enough to play smart, but young enough to be in their prime. All have something to prove and there’s no selfish big ego “stars.”

  • Win

    Agreed. Way way better than 76ers.

  • zxcvb

    Even if MDA is coach (may not happen), I worry about the Sixers. Lin can make any group work, but their core is so young, I suspect Bryan Colangelo and ownership want a young PG (e.g. Dunn or Schroder) to grow with.

  • Win

    Yup. I have mentioned many many times that 76ers have so many immature young players who have a lot of off court issue such as Noel, Okafor, etc.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Does 76er need a leader or just a prospect? This is the real question. I would think the team needs a leader like Lin right now more than anything.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Before trade dateline the rumor said they want Schroder.

  • Dan Ang

    Brutal!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Kemba Walker has never been a leader for the team in big games this season.

  • zxcvb

    I agree that they need a leader at PG and so would MDA (and Jerry Colangelo). But it’s unclear what Bryan and ownership think. They extend Brown (which Jerry didn’t want) and now they say they’re keeping Brown…for now. Bryan may try his own blueprint instead of doing what Daddy wanted.

  • zxcvb

    Hasn’t beat a top team all season! He actually has a lifetime 0% winning percentage against Lebron’s teams (MIA or CLE). All four elite wins this year were Lin-led (CLE, @TOR, SAS, blowout of SAS).

    MJ letting Cliff and Cho run his team into the ground.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Bryan would be in big trouble if the team improves significantly next season. They need veteran players to lead the young wolves.

  • Dan Ang

    Jeremy Lin looked really quick in Game 1, despite what the score was, he played his brand of basketball…no hesitation.
    The Heat are afraid of him so expect them to try their best to contain him.
    Shaqin’ the Foo is funny but Shaq is no fool. He knows JLin is the X-Factor!!!

  • zxcvb

    They could also draft a PG prospect. So many picks/assets.

  • Ben Johnson

    absolutely, he looked as fast as ever yesterday, was really suprised

  • got it 🙂 done

  • Dan Ang

    I know….makes me think that his injuries are all part of the chess game.

  • DrewBear2

    But this season the Hornets played beyond anyone’s expectations. Management extended Clifford’s contract mid-season in light of that performance. They won 48 (!!!) games when most people were predicting 30 games, and zero chance of making the playoffs, after MKG was injured. Whatever happens in these playoffs, Cliff’s job is safe for at least another season.

    I’m not sure where all this severe criticism of Clifford comes from. Jeremy is not a starter, yet he played the 4th highest minutes this season. Kemba had a crazy year. There was no reasonable way to bench someone playing at that level for 90% of the games without alienating the rest of the players. And it wouldn’t have gotten past either Cho or Jordan.

    Game 1 was lost because the players didn’t bring enough intensity early. It’s tough enough to recover during the regular season, but almost impossible during the playoffs. But that’s on the players, not the coaching staff.

  • Ben Johnson

    Wait, JLin didn’t play well??? He had the ball in his hands for all of 18 total seconds, hard to have a 30pt/10ast game with that type of usage

  • james brown

    hornets needs a leader right now, and jlin can lead, thats for sure and those deficit will never happen if the lead knows how to make things happen, thats for sure..

    about the FA, all things can help especially a good playoff, but right now, he has already shown how good he is and the playoff can only sweeten it a little!

  • james brown

    no ego yet, but sometimes, winning got to the head of some…jlin must be their centerpiece so that jealousy will not happen for he knows when to let other shine ahead of him!

  • james brown

    lol! they all think that one MUST win a game by just standing there and have no touches otherwise he is a dud!(jlin only)

  • sws94

    I think they are real. Just, had a good day. Treatment worked.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    They only care about stats… Lin didn’t get doubt digit… smh!

  • sws94

    Classless and stupid. That’s why he’s disliked. He looked so stupid doing that.

  • james brown

    what was he thinking? sorry, didn’t watch it!

  • CJSHYY

    Now I know why Kerr didn’t want Curry to play today bc I think what PB did must be from top’s order…. smh!

  • james brown

    why, pls enlighten me?

  • sws94

    Maybe he should be suspended for a year.

  • CJSHYY

    They want Curry to get injury….

  • Spot

    Nash wasn’t young when he signed for Suns.

  • Spot

    Jeremy better stay out of New York. Knicks will be big in a season or two.

    They will put Melo, Paul, James and Wade all together.

  • vincent

    My only concern with lin going to brooklin is how the coach runs his offense. I know lin likes him a lot, but That doesnt mean the coach is gonna base the offense around lin. For esample mda will base the offense around him with pnr and pick and pops will kenny do this

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Pat reminds me of that little monkey in the zoo. He’s so outclassed.

  • zxcvb

    Lin doesn’t need the offense “based around him.” He just needs an offense where he doesn’t stand in the corner as a Derek Fisher-style PG. If Atkinson simply gives him Teague’s role in Atlanta, that would be fine. Brooklyn doesn’t have as many weapons as the Hawks, so he’d probably get more touches than that.

  • CJSHYY

    I think most of Lin’s fans just so happy someone nice to Lin became HC & that maybe a good chance for Lin….

  • vincent

    Thats true. Its crazy lin had 13 and 6 playingn alongside harden

  • Ben Johnson

    Have never seen this before on any level, guy is the opposite of a professional

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    NBA Free Agency 2016: Point Guards
    http://hoopshype.com/2016/03/05/nba-free-agency-2016-point-guards/

    Jeremy is listed as the 4th. Putting Rondo and Jordon Clarkson ahead of Jeremy is a bonehead decision. Rondo is against the trend in Modern basketball and his attitude would turn away many teams. Jordon Clarkson is just a prospect and you couldn’t make him the starting point guard for any team. Mike Conley is locked into resigning with the Grizzles. D. Williams is over the hill.

    The best available PG in 2016 is none but Jeremy Lin.

  • james brown

    for as long as they can make jlin as nothing, they will do that just to trash him!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There are not many teams who would use a point guard like Jeremy Lin. Brooklyn and Philadelphia must the be on the top of the list.

  • Ben Johnson

    That’s pretty much equivalent to 20/10 playing alongside somebody like Bradley Beal or Kyle Korver

  • Ben Johnson

    I think it’s been established that Clarkson is not an NBA level PG…he’s a prospect SG who’s decent at scoring, with no court vision, rebounding, or defense…and newest reports are that Conley will be actively exploring free agency, no guarantees he will stick around

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2633786-mike-conley-latest-news-rumors-speculation-on-pgs-future-with-grizzlies

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Most commentators are stupid.

  • sws94

    Don’t get the fascination with two of the worst teams in the league. I want Lin to go to a winner personally, not losers.

  • Rick Johnson

    SAS could probably use a PG. Parker isn’t going to play for ever

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I look at the situation differently. Most teams have already had their PGs locked in for years. There are no room for others. Brooklyn and Philadelphia are two teams that don’t have experienced PG to run the team and other teams have already had their PGs locked in for years.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    SAS doesn’t have cap space to sign Lin at all.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There aren’t too much rooms for starting PGs in the league. Should Conley leave Memphis, Lin should be their leading candidate to fill the spot.

  • MorlockO

    they didn’t even show clarkson’s assist stat lol

  • Rick Johnson
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Coaching staffs are responsible to prepare the team for the matches.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Adidas must have been out of its mind to spend so much money on Harden.

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin would be the 3rd because he would bring out the beast out of Howard.

  • jimmyL

    what did shaq say about Lin?

  • Rick Johnson

    Houston fans starting to open their eyes?

    https://twitter.com/ImranKidwai/status/722301360922701824

  • jimmyL

    Harden is popular why not

  • Max

    Clueless !
    Jeremy Lin is the BEST player if he’s given the chance to play his natural position.

  • Steppen03

    Winners are teams that maximize JL7 to the fullest – a starting gig to run the team. Then and only then that the entire NBA will give this very good BB player some respects. Be on a winning team playing 2nd fiddle don’t open doors (not in JL7’s case, for some others maybe but never for him). Be the one that Turned a losing team into a competitive team will.

  • Steppen03

    said JL7 has been the double digit guy too. He needs to play well too in order for the Hornets to win. Pretty much, Shaq knows how important JL7’s role is.

  • Rick Johnson

    NBA TV ✔ ‎@NBATV
    Who said you can’t play defense on a guy shooting free throws?? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
    10:09 PM – 18 Apr 2016
    https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/722290953386663936

  • jimmyL

    Nice, Shaq knows his stuff
    Definitely the best centre to ever play the game

  • Rick Johnson

    Knicks were losers before Linsanity.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Not for long.

  • Steppen03

    Only a starting gig is priority – on any teams beside Lakers & Rox. Can’t be backup forever… It’s time to break out and be the leader again … if there’s an opportunity.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Agree. Lin shouldn’t sign with any team until the starting job is offered.

  • Steppen03

    Four seasons playing second fiddle is enough. Like many other players that have broke out that are not as good as JL7. People will not believe it – they have to be shown.

  • John Focker

    For all those who say Lin isn’t good enough for starting PG position, two words will shut them up:

    Isaiah Canaan

    If anyone says Lin isn’t as good, they seriously need to be b***hslapped.

  • Rick Johnson

    Maybe the character of the GM is the problem:

    https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/722292731926589440

  • John Focker

    Stupid is as stupid does. Surely woo’d the stupid fans who went “wow, that’s great defense and dedication!”

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Ouch! What a hectic fine!! Funny to see some people wanted Lin to complain/criticize refs for his non fragrant calls. Such ignorant people of not knowing what JLin has to endure with with this biased, dirty, racism org. He even got fine for just stomping his feet. No wonder he had to give up talking to refs after this. He had a better thing to do while he was playing….
    https://twitter.com/thereddoors/status/722360176729317376

  • Wonder
  • cdblue10

    Guys…Do you think Lin will have more touches next game?

  • sport

    Wining teams will not give reigns to Lin! Lin needs to build his team without any stars.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Noticeably there are people who have been trying to diss Lin. Did Clarkson ever turn over 20 points deficit and score 29 points to win a game for his team against the mighty Spurs? Mind you, the Spurs has arguably the best defense player in the league in Kwahi Leonard.

  • CJSHYY

    So stats matter… anyway, don’t want Lin to settle in 6th man. So it’s OK w me.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin will make his team a winner.

  • heart

    He’s showing everyone that he’s living up to his Thuggish reputation!

  • Tux

    That’s 110% defense effort 😂

  • cdblue10

    BrookLin ……BrookLin….BrookLin

  • spiderman

    No sympathy for Houston for all their hate. And I hope they give Beverly a max contract

  • KL

    After seeing what Lin has achieved in Charlotte, I think Lin can go anywhere, play in any system and turn things around. It has always been politics holding him back. As long as he gets to start and gets the minutes he will excel and the team will do well. I don’t think he really needs a good coach cause Lin is a coach on the floor. However having high character team mates would probably help.

  • CJSHYY

    Read somewhere said Atkinson maybe wants to have Hawks PG comes to Nets. Teague or Schroede for his rebuild… I know lots of Lin’s fans & NY media push hard for Lin….Not really sure Nets will be as high on Lin as us.

  • spiderman

    Agree, but good coaching will be critical. Cliff is an example of a not good coach

  • cdblue10

    Teague and Schroeder is still in contract in Atlanta,they will get paid as soon as their contract ends,they won’t go anywhere

  • Sesshie

    If JLin is plugged into KW’s usage and role, I think even Clifford could handle it. Just give JLin the minutes and get out of the way.

  • CJSHYY

    Before trade dateline, rumors were both can be traded…. anyway, from what Nets gave Lin’s contract last summer. I don’t think they are high on him at all. Can this new coach has the power to request his favor PG? Not sure. Plus we don’t even know he wants Lin to be his PG???

  • cdblue10

    New York wants Lin,as early as this and their media is already humming…I’m pretty sure someone is throwing money to get this kind of attention.

  • KL

    Remember Jeremy grabbing the clipboard and drawing the play for McHale?

  • CJSHYY

    The NY media all from that group of reporters like Lin to start w… I like them & I believe Lin will be a star again if he really back to NY. But NYK is out. Nets ….still big ???

  • cdblue10

    If FO and the coach are in the same page,they can acquire who they want,I don’t think they will be in rebuild mode,they don’t have picks in years to come,they want to win now as anybody else

  • CJSHYY

    I read the statement said they are in rebuild.

  • cdblue10

    NY media knows that it’s critical to get an attention from
    Linn as`early as this since 76’ers is just around the corner

  • cdblue10

    If they will trade,Lopez and Young then I would believe that they’re in rebuild mode

  • Dan cohen

    So what is an example of good coach..
    Many ppl here and there say he is not a good coach, but no one really defines good coach,

    You guys say spo and rick is a good coach. But what if he doesn’t use lin at all, will that be a good coach or bad coach, even if they are winning? Get the point I’m getting at. Spo doesn’t have lin, but they are winning.

    Kerr to me can’t tell because his team was stack. So is Kerr a good coach if he plays lin, and bad coach if he plays livingston and they won?

  • Alain Gervais
  • CJSHYY

    Of course. Lin is #8 in the list. W only NY media is not enough for his vote…..

  • Dan cohen

    so he wins 8th man of then year!!!!

  • CJSHYY
  • Lefon Jang

    His rotations are pedictable. He doesn’t make any adjustment. He continued to play Kaminsky on Luo Deng when the faster Williams was a better choice. He had no answer for the most fundamental P&R defense. He was out coached by Spo. You tell me, is he a good coach?

  • Dan cohen

    That I know already. But if he uses lin as kw.. is he a good coach doing the same exact thing.

  • cdblue10

    Troll better…

  • Lefon Jang

    That’s beside the point. The point is he failed to make in-game adjustment. Taking Lee out and play Lin would be a better option.

  • Spot

    All the attentions Jeremy is having, I think comes from Jerry Colangelo, who got ties everywhere.

    Jerry Colangelo made spreading the news Nets wanted his son, Bryan, which was probably false.

    So he pushed Lin for the 6th man Award.

    I prefer Jeremy in Philadelphia than Brooklyn. But, if nothing happens in Philly, it’s good Nets are interested.

  • Dan Ang

    Of course they are, just adding intrigue to a boring Monday.

  • wandertheglobe

    2nd place voters for Lin.
    Keith Pompey Philadelphia Inquirer
    Rick Bonnell Charlotte Observer
    Sam Smith Bulls.com
    Steve Aschburner NBA.com
    Rod Beard Detroit News
    Paul Jones TSN 1050/Sportsnet 590 The Fan
    Joel Meyers Fox Sports New Orleans

    3rd place voters for Lin.
    Eric Hasseltine 92.9 FM ESPN/680 AM ESPN
    Walt Frazier MSG Network
    David Wesley Fox Sports New Orleans
    Dave Johnson 106.7 The Fan
    Chris Carrino WFAN (660)
    Brian Mahoney Associated Press

    Rick Bonnell the supposedly Lin’s hater voted 2nd for Lin, but Hornets own announcers, Dell Curry and Eric Collins Hornets Radio didn’t even vote for Lin.

  • Dan cohen

    Actually that is true.. taking lee out and play lin..even if lin is not a focal point. But lin doesn’t have lee’s armspan I dont’ think.

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe they are not able to vote? Walt Frazier only vote for Lin in 3rd place? Really surrpised. Rick Bonnell put Lin in 2nd place.

  • wandertheglobe

    I don’t think they are restricted. David Wesley Fox Sports New Orleans voted for Ryan Anderson of the Pelicans.

  • Dan cohen

    at this point.. nets might be better… mda tends to overuse his main guy (look at kobe).
    plus net’s owner are russia businessman.. They don’t seem to have the American’s ego of implanted subconsciousness that blacks and whites are better players. So that should help. (+1) Also I don’t know about sean marks.. as that is a question mark.(+1 or 0 or -1) But kenny, there is no need to explain.. (+1)

    so right now it’s plus 2 for lin.

    With 76ers? colangelo, even though there are ties with mda, they still have this ego implanted in their head from american culture. So it’s pretty much even or plus 1 for lin on that team.

  • pandaboy99

    The way Clifford plays lin he can only be 7th man of the year, cuz Al is 6th off the bench.

  • Lefon Jang

    When they’re down by that many points it’s the offense that they needed. Having Lin on the floor would give them a spark on offense. Beside Lee didn’t play that much better defense anyway. Lin was aggressive in attacking the paint.

  • DrewBear2

    See the list. Curry voted for Iguodala, Kanter & Crawford. Collins voted for Thompson, Davis & Kanter.

    Jeremy’s problem this year was consistency. Yes, he was a huge impact on several important games, but he had more games where he struggled. He did well and the Hornets would not have been where they are without him. I really doubt he even thinks about this award.

  • Dan cohen

    I’m not trolling, I’m wondering.. it’s a question I asked everywhere… even to neutral people who are not lin fans.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. His biggest problem is not he can’t do it. It’s when he will do it. To most reporters, they don’t follow him or care what’s the problem in the team….. People don’t really trust him bc he can bring in big game but more w 2, 4, 6, …. pts games. They don’t know what he will do today. 2 or 20…. ? That’s why they don’t seem to high on him at all.

  • cdblue10

    I’ll bite …what if the coach use their time and usage better if he’s really dedicated to winnings?Let Walker play for the 1st 8 mins then sub Lin in for the last 4 mins to be the PG UNTIL 6 mins of the 2nd Q and let Walker again sub in for the last 6mins .Is that gonna affect Walker’s effectivity if he’ll implement that or why not go with the best match up available?I believe that Lin and Walker have different skill sets and they can be effective if used properly.

  • Dan cohen

    One thing many people also forget .. it’s might not even be cliffords probbob. It’s the players themselves. Cliff should tell them to:

    PASS DA DAM BALL! Also you want to get paid!? Play in the FINALS.. 1st round and 2nd round doesn’t mean squat.

    Now then they will play teamball instead of iso stats.. but when the finals comes, they dead with iso stats hahahahahahaa

  • DrewBear2

    “…best performing player for his team coming off the bench as a substitute…”

    It doesn’t matter if the player is the first sub to enter the game. Lin had the 4th highest number of minutes on the entire team. Obviously Clifford thought he was the most valuable player off the Hornets’ bench. But coaches don’t get a vote for this award.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think Lin even care or really want to get this 6thMOY bc he wants to start… I have mix feeling about it too…. I want him to get something but also don’t want him to settle in this 6th man… OK w me. It’s done now.

  • I am The Jason

    I have to agree with this. Early in the season Lin led the 2nd unit. Then Clifford decided to have either Kemba or Batum play with the 2nd unit limiting Lin’s role. I am not surprise he did not win the award.

  • Michael

    Where can I order the jersey? lol

  • CJSHYY

    Stats is the key… w Crawford has the most high stats on the list, of course lots of reporters would vote for him.

  • HVJoy

    Yes, if coach’s desire for winning (after the humiliating loss in G1) trumps politics (of promoting the franchise star at any cost).

  • Michael

    Jason Terry approves…shaqtin a FOOL material.

  • Michael

    His basketball IQ is literally off the charts…waaayy off.

  • DrewBear2

    This award is sort of like a beauty contest. I think there are ~130 “judges” on the panel of sportswriters and broadcasters. I’ll bet a lot depends on which players they actually see perform on a regular basis.

  • Phillycheese

    Rick Carlise is a great coach. Anyone that can will that team to win over OKC is a great coach. If Boston can beat Atlanta without Bradley will get my vote too.

  • Dan Ang

    Bad move Bonnell, should have voted Lin for 1st. If he wins you win, simple.

  • Dan Ang

    Nice graphic, now add the mohawk and its fierce!!!

  • Dan cohen

    well, see all these are almost like hindsight. What if they won this game.. hypothetically. Then we won’t have this convo.

    See logically speaking.. cliff has been using them this way for more than half of the season and it seems to work esp their good asg record.
    So of course he will use the same thing in the playoffs. If he doesn’t and suddenly switch AND STILL loses, he and others will start saying why not stick to what works.

    It’s almost like trading systems where a bad week doesn ‘t mean the system is not working… just it’s a bad week.. next week it will be good since you have a track record that it works much more than not.
    It’s until after a certain n number of times when you start to tweak it as you realize it’s not working.

    Now, for this 1st game, I can’t blame him. I have to blame playas for wanting to get stats for their future contracts. How can the highest assist number be 3 from a bench playa!? Cliff might be saying the same thing as mchale = move the ball. But will they? All the movement going into big Al.

    People here and other site said the same thing about having lin as the pg and they will have a better chance to win. that is lin fan speaking or hornets fan frustration speak.. not logically speaking. Again it comes back to that 82 season logic. He haven’t been using lin as pg and they have the 3rd best after asg record. If they didn’t have that good of a record and cliff still play the same, then he is a bad coach definitely. Btw, those spurs killer games, toronto games where lin was pg is too small sample for them.. They will not try it UNLESS kw is hurt. (even if say lin does well, lin, on this team is a bench player..and that might not be on the coach, but the gm or owners and we don’t know).

    That is why I’m asking ppl what do you mean he is a bad coach. The definitions unbiasely? Because everywhere not just here who are lin fans will say lin has to be pg to win and if cliff does that then he is a good coach. If he doesn’t play lin, he is a bad coach. How? So if lin happens to be on the heats team and he doesn’t play, but heat is winning, so is spo a bad coach? So if lin is playing and they lose, is spok a good coach or bad coach. Coaching is not revolving around lin. Coaching is knowing how to put who to defend and adjust regardless of lin. Now some b-tch about cliff putting lin on wade.

    But dude..have you guys think about maybe cliff did that on purpose because he thinks lin is a better defender (he kept saying lin’s defense is underrated). So if lin wasn’t on wade and someone else like lee on wade and wade scores, some of you here and there will say oh, cliff should’ve put lin on wade and b-tch about cliff thinking lin is not a good defender then!.. It’s ALL HINDSIGHT!

    Now, I will expect to see adjustment made in this 2nd game because playoffs is a shorted season, otherwise, cliff is a bad coach. I’m gving cliff 1 game to learn.

    amen.

  • sws94

    There are other teams. Pelicans, others. Limiting it to two hand-selected teams Lin may not be interested in is setting yourself up for big disappointments. Make them two options, fine, but making them the two most likely options I think is a mistake.

  • sws94

    Yes. It’s gravy if he gets it. The fact that he’s recognized is enough for me. I don’t really care about the award due to who is voting.

  • sws94

    Jamal Crawford wins 6th MOY.

  • sws94

    Jamal Crawford has won the NBA’s 6th Man of the Year Award.

    Crawford had 341 points (51 first place votes), beating out Andre Iguodala, who had 288 points (33 first place votes).

    Finishing third was Enes Kanter with 182 points (19 first place votes), followed by Will Barton with 158 points (15 first place votes).

    don’t see yet where Lin finished.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i hate clifford

  • Dan cohen

    yeah, but see lin hasn’t done much ‘craziness’ to even win th 6moy.. I would be surprise he did. But 11 and 3 and 3?
    come on.. that’s not killer big stats to warrant 6moy.

  • sws94

    He was in the consideration which is fine. He finished 7th. I would have liked Iggy to get it. I think his overall play won more games than Crawford’s.

  • Dan cohen

    he was a contender, but his single digit games, his shooting woes and standing in da corner killed his chances.

    he could’ve gotten 13 points average easily if he can get his 3 to be on par with at least last year’s percentage.

  • BobbyH

    Seriously the players mentioned in 6MOY, let them play in Cliff’s 6th man spot and see how they perform. Coach decides if a player even can have the chance to maximize ones potential.

    A role that is from time to time changed from PG to SG to SF to none above standing in the corner with no ball coming. See any can strive with that role.

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  • Dan cohen

    you put cp in lin’s current role.. see what happens.

  • sws94

    Lin will hopefully work at putting together a strong season where he has fewer of the single digit games. But if he’s in the running for 6th MOY even with some struggles, that shows some are paying attention to the impact he has on games.

  • jimmyL

    he will be around for a long time

  • sws94

    Kemba said that Clifford had a great plan and the players didn’t follow or execute it. He put blame on the players. It’s a new day, anyway. Mavs loss badly to OKC and came back and won the next game. On to the next game.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    he’d turn into cliff paul

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  • DrewBear2

    Exactly! Their goal is to win one game in Miami. Just imagine the comments if they pull out a win in game 2. You know everyone will praise Clifford’s coaching skills, right? Yeah, right. 😉

    Seriously, though…I’m betting all the coaches and all the players are striving to figuring out a way to win the next game. No single person in this organization deserves ALL the credit or ALL the blame.

  • grover chang

    Should’ve kept Lin or Dragic or Lowry etc. Morey doesn’t know how to stop himself.

  • DrewBear2

    Thanks for posting this. I did a quick search and couldn’t find it. Just as a side note: after all these years and people still can’t figure out a way to properly format a list with columns?

  • takeme2cruz

    The same chance to have an Asian man to be the US Commander in chief and to have the hatred media voting for Lin to win anything. Crawford and Lin are very close in stats even though Crawford has much better usage.

    The Clippers and OKC would still be a great team with or without Crawford or Enes Kanter but we can’t say that about the Hornets without Lin. They were trash last season. Having said that, just look at those players Lin got beaten out like Ryan Anderson and Will Barton whose team couldn’t make playoff. Andre Iguodala is having his worst career ppg (7)……

  • takeme2cruz

    Home town Charlotte Bonnell didn’t even vote for Lin as 1st.

  • HVJoy

    “We didn’t do much except getting to the foul line.” – Lin on G1.

  • orLinaryjoe

    6th Man of the Year: Jeremy Lin Wasn’t Robbed, Jamal Crawford Doesn’t Deserve It.
    Lin came in 7th for 6th man. What a joke.

    “Handing the Sixth Man of the Year award to Jamal Crawoford for the third time in his career suggests the people voting for it haven’t been watching a lot of basketball this season. I’m not sure Jeremy Lin did enough to win it, but it probably should have gone to someone else…

    Crawford, who sometimes does more harm than good to the Clippers due to his narrow contribution and zero attempt at helping on defense, finished only 61st among players who started 40 games or less and played 65 games or more this season. He was sixth in scoring, declining from last season. Crawford declining and playing worse than he did in previous seasons for the Clippers, when he was more deserving of the award (and won it) shouldn’t be a factor in the voting process. Bottom line? Someone else should have gotten it. PER, win shares, scoring. Crawford isn’t close to the top in any of these. More than anything, it feels like a lazy pick and not trying too hard to think about who actually deserves it.

    Lin driving to the basket

    And in connection to more current events, Lin shouldn’t be on the bench when the Hornets play the Miami Heat in game 2 of their first round payoff series. I doublt Clifford doesn’t make any adjustments at all. I also doubt he suddenly changed his mind about Kemba Walker being the way to win the next game and this series. The punch to the gut the Hornets received against the Heat, exposing almost every flaw they have as a team and in this specific matchup, especially with their current lineup, might not have been enough.”

    http://sportige.com/sixth-man-of-the-year-award-jeremy-lin-jamal-crawford-charlotte-hornets-94737/

  • orLinaryjoe

    Comon, Iggy shoulda won.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I said…. weird. I think they will have big come back game on Wed. Lin didn’t seem to worry about game 1 lose…

  • heart

    Found out who voted Lin 1st place for Sixth Man Award– Sherman Hamilton. Thank you Mr. Hamilton!

  • CJSHYY

    Dell Curry didn’t even vote for him…

  • takeme2cruz

    Shame on him.

  • CJSHYY

    Let’s think he consider Lin is a starter….LOL!

  • takeme2cruz

    Shameful, it took a Canadian to do the right thing.

  • takeme2cruz

    They do not want to help to set him up for a big payday.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Jeremy Lin's 1st place vote of Sixth Man of the Year is from @shermanhamilton of NBA TV Canada https://t.co/2uc1jjQIKW— Dennis Ginobili (@manu77728) April 19, 2016

    .

  • orLinaryjoe

    He’s not a believer

  • Dan cohen

    because like I said all the time to yall.. americans have this big ego and stereotype implanted in them that asians can’t play.

    no offense to asians.. but it’s da fact of this stereotype.
    why else only a CANADIAN voted him 1st place.

  • DrewBear2

    Morey at least had the foresight to grab Lin with that 3-year, $25 million contract. The initial plan was to build the team around Jeremy and other young players. That all changed when they were able to get Harden.

    Morey’s been GM for 9 years. Last season’s deep playoff run bought him time, but this season likely has the owner seriously thinking about a new GM. But who knows what a billionaire owner really thinks.

  • cdblue10

    Regular season was already a history,even Heat changed their lineup to put Whiteside on the starting lineup to start their campaign in the best possible way to win….So using your own logic…SPO can adjust to win but Cliff just want to cruise playing the series.

  • james brown

    so thats why they don’t promote him…only KW deserved to be their man!!!

  • heart

    NOTE: Dell Curry, Hornets Commentator did NOT vote for Jeremy Lin. His votes recorded as follows:
    Dell Curry,Fox Sports Carolinas/SportSouth, 1st- Iguodala, Andre–GS; 2nd-Kanter, Enes–OKC; 3rd-Crawford, Jamal–LAC

  • james brown

    maybe try jlin also with other team prospects for fairness sake..LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    All western conference players?

  • james brown

    can’t expect them to vote because all season long, thety just give little praise for jlin.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Sherman Hamilton seems to be a smart dude, lol

  • Dan cohen

    well, iggy does deserve it..
    lin.. not yet.. his shooting woes killed him.

  • james brown

    well its biased voting, what do we expect when even hornets people doesnt see lin as deserving with the award!

  • heart

    At least Rick Bonnell voted for Lin as 2nd runner up. Give credit to him!
    Rick Bonnell,Charlotte Observer, 1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC;2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA;3rd-Schroder, Dennis–ATL

  • CJSHYY

    I was surprised bc he’s normally not high on Lin…

  • donsmacau

    Nicklaus Denning, perhaps most astute & analytical Charlotte fansite reporter compare his Clifford to JLIN articles, lol.

    When Clifford controls the GAMEPLAN
    ———————————–
    How the Heat Broke Down Charlotte’s Defense in Game 1
    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/4/18/11449742/the-miami-heat-broke-down-charlottes-pick-and-roll-defense-in-nba-playoffs-2016

    When JLIN controls the GAMEPLAN
    ———————————–
    How Jeremy Lin’s playmaking broke down the Cleveland Cavaliers
    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/2/5/10919372/how-jeremy-lins-playmaking-broke-down-the-cleveland-cavaliers

    Jeremy Lin has stepped up just as the Charlotte Hornets needed him to against Spurs & Nets
    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/3/24/11296232/jeremy-lin-has-stepped-up-just-as-the-charlotte-hornets-needed-him-to
    “Riding his play, the Hornets managed to come back, take the lead, and get away with their most improbable win of the season.”

  • CJSHYY
  • Sophie Paris

    Lin ofc

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  • DrewBear2

    I’m pretty sure Dell is a fan of Jeremy’s and wants him to do well. His son (you know, the ‘other’ Curry) played with Jeremy for most of the 2010-11 season. He’s seen Jeremy play more than most of the other panelists, so he’s seen the great games…and the bad games.

    Dell was a bench player for nearly all of his 16-year NBA career and won the 6th Man award once. I’d say he understands better than most what makes a great 6th man. By all accounts I’ve ever read, his integrity is undisputed. I trust that he voted his conscience.

  • Dan cohen

    horniets are screwed. forget about lin being pg.. spok even has a plan for him => respect is a double edge sword.

  • sws94

    I would say so also. Just because he didn’t vote for Lin doesn’t mean he doesn’t believe in his game or like him as a player. I have a high opinion of Dell.

  • Dan cohen

    yeah, but remember whiteside was injured. It’s recently that he is fine. If he wasn’t injured.. he might’ve continue to play so it wasn’t really spok ‘adjustment’ in a way.

  • sws94

    Al’s a good guy. He said the team played well without him and in a player’s career roles change. He’s happy to be on a team to get into the playoffs and advance hopefully. He’ll accept any role. He said the team wasn’t mentally ready the last game. These comments are from his practice interview today.

  • heart

    Once again, thank you Sherman Hamilton from NBA TV Canada for voting Lin 1st place. Noting & crediting reporters/writers voted for Lin. Note: #s before * indicating the voters’ Sixth Man Award placement:
    3*>Rick Bonnell, Charlotte Observer, 1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA; 3rd-Schroder, Dennis — ATL
    3*>Brian Mahoney, Associated Press, 1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Iguodala, Andre–GS; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy — CHA
    3*>Chris Carrino, WFAN (660),1st-Iguodala, Andre–GS; 2nd-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy — CHA
    3*>Dave Johnson, 106.7 The Fan,1st-Crawford,Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Iguodala, Andre–GS; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy — CHA
    3*>David Wesley, Fox Sports New Orleans,1st-Barton, Will–DEN; 2nd-Anderson, Ryan–NOP; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy — CHA
    3*>Eric Hasseltine, 92.9 FM ESPN/680 AM ESPN,1st- Anderson, Ryan–NOP Crawford; 2nd-Jamal–LAC; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA
    3*>Jason Jackson, Fox Sports Sun, Crawford, 1st-Jamal — LAC; 2nd-Kanter, Enes — OKC; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy — CHA
    2*>Joel Meyers, Fox Sports New Orleans,1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC;2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA; 3rd- Iguodala, Andre–GS
    2*>Keith Pompey, Philadelphia Inquirer, 1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA;3rd-Turner, Evan–BOS
    2*>Paul Jones, TSN 1050/Sportsnet 590 The Fan,1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA; 3rd-Kanter, Enes–OKC
    2*>Sam Smith, Bulls.com,1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA; 3rd-Barton, Will–DEN
    1*>Sherman Hamilton, NBA TV Canada, 1st-Lin, Jeremy — CHA; 2nd-Kanter, Enes — OKC; 3rd- Barton, Will — DEN
    2*>Steve Aschburner, NBA.com,1s-Kanter, Enes–OKC; 2nd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA; 3rd-Crawford, Jamal–LAC
    3*>Walt Frazier, MSG Network,1st-Crawford, Jamal–LAC; 2nd-Barton, Will–DEN; 3rd-Lin, Jeremy–CHA

  • Dan cohen

    I personaly don’t think lin should’ve won 6moy, but at least he was voted 2nd place among all these by some.

  • real-dsb

    easy to filter spreadsheet of vote tally (in google sheet format instead of a hard to filter PDF): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jmBcy9AQeYHMWeh4Emv-JkDPWh1geA_JfLf0wQjfh7M/edit#gid=206780702

  • real-dsb

    nice to see from love from Walt Frazier, Knicks commentator!

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  • JoeTeam

    I don’t blame him, Iggy is pretty astounding. Just coming off injury, he and Livingston were key to a Curry-less thrashing of Harden-style Rox. And I’ll give him the bias because his son’s teammate … what’s the bias for other voters?

  • heart

    Lin does not care about this award so do I. I still want to see which reporters even consider Lin’s for the award. I noted that Dell Curry didn’t even voted for Lin!

  • JoeTeam

    you got that right … Canada took in Asians during a time where they aren’t just slaves or coolies working the railroads. US have a layer in society for Asians that go back to the 1800s. If you don’t believe me, then just note all the rhetoric that goes back centuries around other minorities. I’m guessing the pre-HK takeover immigration to Canada with the $1m price tag helps the view of Canadians on Asians in their own society. Vancouver I hear is a hoppin’ town.

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  • zxcvb

    Oh please. Iggy and Livingston have much worse stats (7/3/4, 6/3/2) and they got tons of votes. And they can’t take over a game like Lin can. I’m not even saying Lin deserved it (don’t really care much), but even on paper, he was deserving as most candidates. And in terms of impact he was second to none.

  • CJSHYY
  • zxcvb

    Good! Don’t think MDA was ever going back anyway. Probably just a ploy to put pressure on the Sixers.

  • zxcvb

    It’s nice to see Lin being recognized as an impact player. 14 different media members put him on their ballot despite Lin being handcuffed most games. He’s improved his reputation this season and he might just reunite with MDA or Atkinson this summer. That’s when the real Lin can get a chance to shine…

  • KHuang

    I like Al Jefferson.

    He and Lin were carrying the Hornets. Everyone else was either too inexperienced or too selfish.

  • real-dsb

    I was honestly surprised to see him get 14 votes (more than 10% of the voters put him on their ballot)

  • Grace

    Nice article on how the Heat won game 1:
    http://www.nba.com/heat/newsrecap/shutting-supply

  • zxcvb

    I think those epic games against the Cavs, Spurs and Celts (who usually dominate CHA) really garnered him attention. Very few players in the league — starter or reserve — can take over games like that.

  • sws94

    They seemed scared. Al even said some teammates may have had butterflies.

  • DrewBear2

    “Miami posted an Offensive Rating of 142.6 that was not only their season-high but also the most efficient game in franchise history.”

    Miami had an historical game. Tip ‘o the hat to them. This is the playoffs and they stepped it up big time. The Hornets know they need to play better defense. If they do that, they know the Heat won’t be that hot again.

    I’m repeating myself, but if the Hornets win game 2, the whole story line going back to Charlotte changes completely. No one will talk about the game 1 blowout. It’ll all be how the Heat are in trouble. (That won’t be true either, but that’s how the headlines will run.)

    Most people see this series going 6 or 7 games. Yet so many are in panic and crying for drastic changes after a single game. Be calm. Play on!

  • spiderman

    Look forward to seeing Lin as an exceptional coach in the future!

    I’m sure “Linstructor” does a lot of coaching already…

  • spiderman

    Woodson would be more insurance that Sacramento would not make playoffs for years to come

  • DrewBear2

    Yes! It’s those flashes of brilliance that must have some around the league thinking “what if?”. Of course 1 of 10 games at that level won’t be good enough if he gets the chance to start at PG. I believe he can meet that challenge. The question is whether a GM & coach somewhere thinks he can.

  • grover chang

    Planning on making a stop in Vancouver just for the Chinese food. Heard it was very good. Any suggestions.

  • Jedi

    You got hundreds of places to choose from…and also variety from different regions of China. So you have to sort that out.

  • grover chang

    Ok best place for dimsum and best place for spicy beef noodles. My two favs.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The charlotte Miami game should had been tonight…Don’t know why this game was on 2 day rest since this specific game started on Sunday…You’d think they’d move it for tonight while the teams who opened the playoff on Saturday would be on 2 days rest.

  • donsmacau

    For every team who posts a record high Offensive Rating in a game…

    … there is a Coach who supervises a team who posts a deplorable record low Defensive Rating

  • xeroid

    It’s not a question of blow out loss, but of adjustments and counters. Mav and Raptors did after losing game 1. If Clifford continues to play iso Kemba and Batum, then I am not Optimistic. He has to utilize Lin more and direct Kemba to pass to Lin when they play together, rather than Lin standing in the corner not touching the ball, because all season long I have yet seen kemba pass to Lin as a first choice.

  • donsmacau

    Kemba said that Clifford’s gameplan was “awesome” but the team did not execute the plan.
    Clifford in his post-game interview said essentially the same and ruled out the idea of lineup changes. Moreover we have witnessed all season long Clifford is resistant to “adjustments” unless forced by injury.

    “Not optimistic” that encapsulates probably the feeling of many JLIN fans that Clifford will allow him to lead this team, which is likely the only chance they have at winning.

  • sws94

    I agree. I think it was bad scheduling to make the Heat/Hornets wait an additional night to play.

  • Fellow JLin fans, please help to email this follow-up letter to the NBA
    http://www.jlinportal.com/too-flagrant-retrospection/
    Note: You may share via Twitter/FB/Email/Reddit, etc. sharing button at the bottom of the post.
    Or simply retweet JLinPortal tweet below
    Chinese translation is provided for online reading

    #TeamFlagrant wants to help JLin fans to appreciate NBA timely response but also to show concern regarding NBA response that JLin Flagrant Fouls were not even reviewed as they clearly qualified under NBA own FF rules.
    We want to bring attention to many media exposure questioning NBA response and almost 3M views hits of English+Chinese youtube video. The final goal of the letter is to show Concern for NBA Players’ Safety and Hope for Better NBA Officiating

    While we can expect NBA will not overturn their decision in fear of embarrassing the refs giving preferential treatment to stars (Kobe/Melo/Harden) to get away with FFs without a single review, the letter will serve as a huge concern for JLin’s future safety and other non-star players which can jeopardize their NBA career if NBA doesn’t protect them.

    IMO NBA will certainly want to avoid more negative attention by asking refs to be careful with hard/flagrant fouls to avoid further embarrassment.
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/722537913951518720

  • Here’s an outline of the letter for those who can’t read for long 🙂

    Dear Mr. Bernstein,

    Thank you for your response to our letter to Commissioner Silver, referring to the non-calls on fouls committed on Jeremy Lin.

    While we appreciate your timely response, we feel that you have not addressed our concerns. You referred to a set of criteria used in review. We have carefully studied the very same criteria prior to writing to Mr. Silver and specifically chose video evidence that met those criteria. We have arrived at different conclusions from yours.

    Furthermore, NBA fans and pundits with no particular interest in Jeremy Lin have offered the same reaction to ours. We would like to believe that this warrants a more active and interested response from the stewards of the sport that we all enjoy. We are disappointed that your initial letter feels perfunctory and dismissive.

    Please allow us to expound with the following points:

    1. NBA Flagrant Fouls Criteria Necessitating Review

    2. Professional Guidance from Former NBA Referee; Agreement from other Fans; Media Opinion

    3. Our reaction to NBA’s April 16 Response to the New York Times Article (citing ESPN’s Tom Haberstroh)

    4. Concerns for NBA Players’ Safety and Hope for Better NBA Officiating

    We recognize that the NBA continues to reach out to wider audiences and has probably the most diverse fan base in professional sports. This diversity probably reflects best in Jeremy Lin’s fan base. As such, we would like to believe that the NBA will take our concerns seriously.

    The game and its participants will benefit from your recognition of this issue and any potential reforms as a result.

    This video and the Chinese subtitled-version have reached close to three million views in total. It has raised an unprecedented level of awareness and interest. Fans have expressed concern that if these conditions remained unaddressed, the safety of all players will be at risk.

    Given these worries, the reaction among fans has been almost universally shock and dismay that the league has chosen to respond to our protest with seeming dismissiveness.

    We make our case on the basis that interest and care should be directed not just to Jeremy, but ultimately for the protection and welfare of every player, and to uphold the integrity and fairness that should be integral to one of the world’s premier sport.

    Yours sincerely,

    NBA Fans

  • On the letter, well done and well written!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    very well written. and best of all, it doesn’t have any hint of overly fanboism 😀

  • JoeTeam

    I’m in Bay Area, so dunno … just know that Victoria and Buchart Gardens is amazing, from when I went there as a kid. Happy Trip!

  • Full credit goes to many great faithful Lin fans who spent sleepless nights working on it 🙂
    @yascar:disqus, Melody, KP Chan, Jenny, Fonda and Steve P who provided Chinese translation plus many more

    They really care how seriously NBA will make changes because these FFs can jeopardize Lin’s NBA career and many other non-star players who are on the receiving end of star players who got away with star treatment. It’s just not right NBA allows stars to get away with such violence without repercussion.

  • Great job by #TeamFlagrant indeed 🙂

    Wait until you see the awesome 2nd video to be released by Jackjack
    Stay tuned. It will come to your nearest Youtube 🙂

  • JLin and Kenny Atkinson in 2012.
    Will we see a similar scene in July 2016?
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/722431482313084935

  • heart

    Will all this be on video to spread the news? Have you as (Jlinportal) send these to those major news outlets that responded to the first viral video? Thanks.

  • not yet.. the video is not yet ready.
    They’re still working hard on it

  • heart

    We need to send this letter to the news sites that have responded to our first complaint/video. It’ll be nice if we could get the letter and video out at the same time. Thanks for all the hard work. The letter read very professional. Glad that you have the Chinese version also.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    sweet! jackjack has killer computer graphics skillz

  • sws94

    Not into Sixers or Nets. Sorry. Lin is in the playoffs now on a team that won 46 games. The Sixers won 10 and the Nets 21. Neither one of these teams seem that likely to be in the playoffs. It seems the criterion here for Lin’s next choice is coach. I think that may be a mistake. I know both teams may also offer him starting PG. That’s a bigger draw. But still, 10 and 21 wins on a team where Lin, a highly competitive player that loves winning and hates losing, may make him take a pass on both of them.

    I know the argument some may say is Lin leads team and improves it. In my observations, that depends on a lot of conditions and him having at least some tools around him as he is a 5 on 5 player. Nothing is impossible but it seems highly improbable to me. And that’s no slight on Lin. It just takes awhile to turn teams in the bottom standings to teams in the higher standings and I really don’t know if it is worth that risk to Lin. I team winning 30 something wins is a better proposition to go to the post-season. And maybe one of them has a starting PG slot for Lin.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    this year has been a nightmare. looking forward to next year with Lin in either a Sixers or Nets uni

  • sws94

    That’s where we disagree. This year has been pure paradise compared to the tanking ugly year of the Lakers. This year has Lin in the running for 6th MOY and people actually noticing he is strong on defense. And plenty have noticed his great games against the Spurs and Cavs as well. And he did some of this in front of the GOAT, Michael Jordan. It’s not been a nightmare at all IMO.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    paradise for Kemba who benefited greatly from Lin’s help on both ends of the floor. LOL

  • sws94

    Only thinking about Lin. Just Lin. It’s Lin that did these things I mentioned.

  • rookie75094

    It may not be a nightmare but it not exactly heaven either…just doesn’t feel good to see Jlin being grossly misused by the coach

  • KWC

    I think “nightmare” is exaggerated. To me, it is “not ideal but an improvement”.

  • sws94

    It’s not heaven. Compared to LA, it is. But, he’s still accomplished a lot of positives during the time in Charlotte. Plus, he seems happier there than in Houston or LA.

  • freemind

    They shared a hug when Hornets met Hawks back in Oct

  • donsmacau

    Once again, we need to set the record straight from the propaganda – and I’m more than happy to oblige.

    – Repeatedly, JLIN has taken inconspicuous, unremarkable players on squad after squad and turned them into feared rosters. Multiple examples including early this season, JLIN’s benchforce was the most effective lineup in the league.

    – Other teams have talent surrounding JLIN. Sixers raw, athletic, enthusiastic youngsters. Nets wily veterans. Hornets are a team who fell behind by 27pts to Spurs and allowed 41pts to Heat – these 2 games indicate your CHA team is far from elite.

    – 10, 21 win teams indicate for at least year ONE, there is very little pressure for JLIN, either to meet expectations or likely exceed them

    – Ultimately JLIN has verbalized his desire to start and despite all your standard obfuscation & false rationalization, nothing changes his own words.

    – Destinations where there are TRUSTED mentors invariably are significantly preferred over a team of strangers in the FO/Coaching staff making empty promises. You love speaking to JLIN using MDA as a crutch. Couldn’t be further from the case – mentors and players have been successful throughout pro sports for decades.

  • rookie75094

    Comparing Charlotte to LA or Houston is like comparing death by firing squad to death by lion pit….. just a bit quicker and less painful.

  • Alain Gervais

    neither its been pretty good overall not great but pretty good. Lins reputation has gone up. Im happy. Btw Lin averaging 14 ppg on the hornets as a back up would get him more praise and money then 17 ppg on a team getting 30 wins. I would have to see the moves Brooklyn and Sixers make. Anyways its good having option. That way you leverage both and get more money

  • heart
  • CJSHYY

    For 6th man?

  • Michael

    I’m a shameful Canadian…I mean Canadian.

  • JoeTeam

    Great job, you all!

  • JoeTeam

    Nice!

  • Michael

    #TeamFlagrant sounds like the Bad Boy Pistons.

  • Epie

    It’s simple, Jeremy wants to be a starter, Cliff will NOT start him no matter what “According to ESPN, Clifford will not promote
    Lin over Kemba Walker or Courtney Lee. Clifford stated that Lin has
    been utilized off the bench the entire regular season, so he’s going to
    be in that role for the rest of the season.” And there were more than few times where Lin indirectly show his dissatisfaction with his current situation. Yes, he is happy with his teammates, but that doesn’t mean he is happy with his current situation at Charlotte. Remember when BF1 was a thing? Cliff used to pull out Lin when he got hot. And Cliff called timeouts, stopping the momentum. It was really weird why he would stop his own team’s winning momentum. I know sws94 wants him to stay at Char and don’t mind Lin to be a bench player, which I respect as a different opinion, but I think we need to find out first what Lin wants to do and be respectful of his choice. Just a thought.

  • LinMad

    did Lin lose 6MOY?

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Crawford got it again.

  • LinMad

    I think Lin got to start in more games in LA than Charlotte. That’s one of the complaints I have. I felt that Lin was marginalized many times this season like previous seasons. Lin could have started multiple times this season but there was always a mysterious reason why he didn’t. When PJ was traded, I was hoping Lin could start but then it was Lee. If anything, Lin fans felt disrespected cause a new comer to the team who didn’t really play with us long or helped us make the playoffs as much as Lin did, got the starting role. I know Lee and PJ were placeholders for MKG but when MKG is out for the entire season, it would make more sense to start Lin. I actually like how Lin started the other day with Kemba, but he got to rest earlier to so he can help lead the 2nd unit.

  • JJ Hui

    Lin needs to leave this team ASAP! Lin already said he likes to start, so NO as a Hornets backup!

  • donsmacau

    Honestly, in NBA, there exists no popularity contest based award that JLIN can win, All-Star, 6MOY, etc… based on the way the NBA is currently comprised and the position it takes on Asians (e.g. Asian ASG votes, Asian Flagrants)

    But I’m alright with JLIN losing the popularity contests – because he Wins GAMES for teams who allow him to lead,

  • LinMad

    so will MDA hook up with the Nets as assistant coach?

  • I am The Jason

    Charlotte is paradise compared to LA. Houston is reaping what it sowed. Charlotte could have been better but it is miles better than the misery of Lin’s past destinations

  • DX

    Hornets hasn’t been in playoff for many years since Lin joined. So don’t care how bad the team Lin will join. The most important thing is:

    1st, no tanking.
    2nd, Lin is starting PG.
    3rd, 30+ PT.

  • takeme2cruz

    As usual, Dennis Schroder comes in, George Teague sits his butt down. Why can’t Cliff do that to KW?

  • cdblue10

    Lin needs to start to dispel once in for all about the thoughts about him that he’s inconsistent,not good enough to be a starting PG and Linsanity was a fluke.And the best way to prove it is to do it with a losing team,

  • JJ Hui

    Yes, Lin will leave Charlotte bcause Coach Clifford will not start him and he knows! This year is a stepping stone for Lin.

  • FrankW

    How is Crawford as a starter or is he a bench player only?

  • cdblue10

    My thought exactly

  • Epie

    Incapable of “change”

  • heart

    And Teague was on fire too but the coach still sit him to allow Schroder to run the point. Schroder also gets to call for screen.

  • LinMad

    a coach that actually calls time out and make adjustments is a good coach. A coach that plays players to their strengths is a good coach. A good coach doesn’t experiment with lineups throughout the entire season. A good coach doesn’t pick favorites based on player salary or marginalize players who have potential to make a big impact on games.

  • zxcvb

    As far as I’m concerned he “won” — 14 media members put him on their ballot (and CHA play-by-play guys didn’t even vote for him). I honestly thought he’d be ignored almost completely.

    Lin is in so much better position this summer than last. Brook-Lin with Atkinson or an MDA reunion in Philly is an increasingly real possibility.

  • sws94

    In other words, I don’t like your opinion, mine is right and always right. LOL. Predictable overreaction.

  • LinMad

    Beverly just wants the fame, he’ll do anything for some attention

  • JoeTeam
  • LinMad

    JC has always played more like an SG than a PG.

  • NONONO

    VERY VERY GOOD POINTS. LIN will get his best value in either nets or 76ers – starter, pg, leader, fan base, food, fun, the lastly a lot of money for him to do good things.

  • NONONO

    I just voted myself on this too.

  • TTNN

    Maybe not nightmare, but still far from paradise though. LOL, that’s too much.

  • LinMad

    I wonder if Cliff continues to play iso basketball in game #2 and we lose badly again, by game #3 at Charlotte, MJ rally the team again and give Cliff a call. Give them all a pep talk again about how this team has no heroes/superstars and we have to play for each other. AKA, give Lin the ball so he can involve everyone.

  • CJSHYY
  • LinMad

    I remember I posted on Lakersnation that Lakers were dumb for letting go their top 4 players last season which included Jeremy Lin. The stats showed that they were top 4 on the team and the Kobe fans/Lakers fans didn’t believe me.

    Wesley Johnson, Jeremy Lin, Jordan Hill and Ed Davis were their core players.

  • donsmacau

    Why not for once, just set aside your hurt feelings and self righteousness, and try to discuss the merits of the points I raised in rebutting your hypothesis?

  • sws94

    “compared to LA” in other words, big improvement.

  • Sundown

    Several 6MOY candidates there.

  • sws94

    It’s an opinion. It doesn’t match yours. That’s all and that’s all. Bye, Don.

  • DrewBear2

    Correction: the Hornets were in the playoffs 2 years ago during Clifford’s first season as head coach. The defending champions Heat swept the series.

    Jeremy played a very important part in the success of this year’s team. But so did Kemba, Nic & Marvin, who all had career years. It’s not reasonable to think Lin alone can turn around teams like the 76ers or Nets.

  • LinMad

    If they allowed Chinese reporters to vote for 6MOY, Lin would have won fairly.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Thumbs down

  • sws94

    Only fair if they aren’t favoring him for reasons other than basketball ones.

  • LinMadd

    nope cause we all know Crawford shouldn’t have won. It shoudl have been Iggy or Lin or someone who actually improves the team when their on the floor.

  • sws94

    Iggy would be my choice.

  • DrewBear2

    Jeremy has repeatedly said that this is the most enjoyable season he’s played in the NBA. His teammates are a big reason that’s true. I don’t know if this has been posted before, but here’s something Jeremy wrote that shows his appreciation for his fellow Hornets: https://www.reddit.com/r/charlottehornets/comments/4ey6k1?

  • sws94

    For some reason, NBATV, which I don’t usually get, is working for me tonight. I hope it does tomorrow night. If it hasn’t worked for you, you may want to check tomorrow to see if it does before going to one of the unreliable free feeds. Maybe they’ve made it accessible for people only for the playoffs, I’m not sure.

  • Jedi

    Hmm, my suggestion is for you to yelp it. Then you can find a budget that fits you, and also read the reviews.

  • sws94

    Yes, it’s been posted. Thanks.

  • spiderman

    To me, it doesn’t seem like a prestigious award, especially from a dirt-plagued league.
    Lin would simply be happy to be playing with a good coach, self-less team-mates, and a real drive toward championship

  • gandychan

    The main problem is you can’t watch nbatv from a mobile device. It’s super annoying

  • DrewBear2

    Towards the end of the 3rd quarter Teague has played 23:43 and Schroder 11:02. That ratio is a bit worse than Kemba/Jeremy.

  • cdblue10

    Who is intrigue for Lin playing in Utah?

  • TTNN

    me….

  • TTNN

    So, games on TNT not necessary means they are on TNT overtime?

  • cdblue10

    Their team is actually suited for Lin,it’s ready to make a stride next season,they only need a reliable PG.It’s a possible choice if everything didn’t work out.I’m intrigue too.

  • TTNN

    everything looks good there, just I was hoping he would go to a big market team. 🙂 Also not sure whether they would commit to him or not. But that is a up and coming team, with good FO and good coach, good technology too. Oh, I like their radio guy too, very knowledgeable.

  • cdblue10

    Good to have choices this coming FA,Nets is a big market now since they’re in NY and they have a ton of cap space too.It’s going to be a very interesting FA season.

  • guest

    So a guy that finished the season as a -7.2, meaning his team was 7.2 points better without him on the floor won 6th Man of the Year?Really?— Corey Mrozinski (@CoreyMrozinski) April 19, 2016

  • spiderman

    Spot on follow-up letter referenced above!
    Someone posted a link to NBA flagrant foul videos (which were tame in comparison to Lin’s fouls). As they say, pictures are worth a thousand words. I’d suggest that those videos also be referenced next to Lin’s videos.

  • MorlockO

    Hornets was a bad team before Lin.

  • MorlockO

    Without Lin, they wont be having their career years… they needed lin as a catalyst to the new offense… without lin they will be back to Kemba iso…

  • Michael

    Crawford is the default choice every year. If you didn’t do your research, just pick Crawford.

  • MorlockO

    Rick bonnel sucks to be quite honest….

  • MorlockO

    Crawford was not deserving of this award this year…

  • grover chang

    They aren’t strangers to the pick and roll.

  • MorlockO

    does not matter his stats, Lin will never win any of these PressAnalysts voting games… they still can’t stand an asian winning this award….

  • Linnnn

    on the left

  • sws94

    They won 30 something, not 21 or 10. My last part says a team winning 30 something seems more possible to be a playoff contender than those with such low wins last season.

  • kauaiblue

    Psalm, excellent excellent excellent letter… they can’t ignore us… the word “dismissive” is exactly what they have been… unbelievable… go team go! Bravo!

  • John Focker

    Then Crawford will be 6MOY until he retires. The media guys who DON’T do research outnumbers the ones who do.

  • John Focker

    They weren’t tanking, either. Not sure I appreciate your lack of faith in Jeremy, it appears that you’ve forgotten how Linsanity came about. The Knicks were well on their way to a 20+ win season until Lin propelled them into the playoffs.

    Ye of little faith.

  • takeme2cruz

    To be fair, I don’t think Jordan Farmar ever played under BS.

  • Loretta Tang

    Great letter. Heart’s suggestion to sent 2nd video with the letter will make a strong case no matter where the package is distributed. Is it possible to include CBS on your mailing list? Reasons:

    1. Charlie Rose interviewed Jeremy on April 7, 2013.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/linsanity-jeremy-lins-rise-to-stardom/

    2. On April 18, 2016 CBS reported on Stan Van Grundy’s complaint of officiating bias http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25558552/playoff-buzz-welcome-back-to-the-postseason-stan-van-grumpy

    “ Now, when coaches, media or fans allege officiating bias, the league responds with the great equalizer: data. Last week, in response to a New York Times story about a fan who compiled a series of video clips that seemed to demonstrate that Charlotte Hornets guard Jeremy Lin does not draw flagrant fouls the way he should, the league responded thusly: …….”

    BTW, is the clip of Lebron holding Jeremy included in the second video?

    It is no easy task to push for safe working environment. We have faith and hope.

  • james brown

    history forgotten by some and no playoff either for them before! they were too a scrub team, thats why the overhaul for changes, if some couldn’t accept it and believing all will remain just they are, it has no tomorrow to look unto!

  • MorlockO

    They just had the best record in the last 11 years at least… and now they are a contender to beat miami heat and be a dark horse in the playoffs…

  • John Focker

    NOT coincidentally, Kemba has a career BECAUSE Batum and Lin doing the blue-collar D on his behalf, and creating spacing, so that he could chuck to his heart’s content with plenty of comfort. Let’s not reverse cause and effect here.

  • james brown

    if they had the same roster and no changes and got to the playoff just like now, then i belive that 30 win says something, but they did the necessary changes and overhaul, thats why they are who they are now..a scrub team before but contender now…so other team facing same predicament can change too..but with a LOW foresight one will never see that

  • Steppen03

    I’m fine with Crawford. Sixth-Man is not meant for JL7. He’s an All Stars PG. No big deal…!! Was Reggie Jackson ? Was Bledsoe ? Was Brandon Knight ?

  • Steppen03

    What!?? Hornets is in the playoff and Sixers/Nets are not ?? We are talking about “next” season. Well… Sixers/Nets are in the playoff is because JL7 is not on their team. Stop saying they’re bad – Do they have an All Star PG ??

  • DrewBear2

    Did you know you can hit the down arrow button to vote the post down? I don’t think it’ll do anything unless there’s an up vote to negate, but just FYI.

  • Steppen03

    What is your opinion, then ??
    That JL7 is not good enough to turn a losing team into a winning team? That JL7 is not an All Star caliber pg ? That JL7 needs to remain as a bench player, relying on others, on a very good team in order to get to the playoff ??
    I’m sorry. Yes, I’m right and you’re wrong. I don’t even care if his team (led by Lin) makes the playoff as long as he’s got a full season to show what he’s made of – a ninth seed is just fine as long he’s running the show.

  • DrewBear2

    When everyone is playing like a real team, then of course there’s a synergy that helps everyone perform better. I agree this is one of those unmeasurable positives Jeremy brings to the team; it doesn’t show up on the stats page. But it’s not a one-way street. Jeremy is also clearly benefiting from playing with such a group. That’s why he’s having so much fun playing with these guys.

    You all are trying to make it sound like everything good that happens is to Jeremy’s credit and everything negative is due to the coach or another player. Try to be reasonable. Jeremy is human and not perfect.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes and Byron Scott put them all on the bench. As Clyde Frazier said: Lakers playing their best players from the bench, looks like some shenanigans going on.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    If Nets offers him the starting spot, he has to take it…My guess is the starting spot will also come with more money….so if he’s offered the starting PG job with more money than Hornets, Lin should go..It is as simple as that.

    We know money may not be Lin main priority, but I’m sure he could not reject the chance to be part of team’s core player.

    With the Hornets, he will never be that with Kemba/MKG/Batum being the trio there……It’s about which team values him the most and don’t forget that the Nets do have a top 5 center in Brooks Lopez..I could see Lin and Brooks developing a very nice partnership together.

  • I like this point here, how part of this is for the protection of nonstar players from star players. A number of people have given the response, “Oh, well, that’s Kobe, he’s a star player, so that explains it.” Well, maybe that’s even a bigger problem, that MANY nonstar players can’t be protected from star players.

    yeah, I liked that point. It also protects from the response, “Oh, this happens to other players all the time!” As you have mentioned, “That’s part of the problem!!”

  • NONONO

    People watched the game know KW was just too small and too passive on the defense.

  • real-dsb

    correct, I just found that out too

  • DrewBear2

    I would argue that Kemba & Nic fed off each other. Plus they both had Marvin playing his best season ever as the glue to that starting group. Jeremy provided that extra boost that allowed the team to win 48 games. Remove either Nic or Jeremy and the Hornets struggle to make the playoffs.

    I really don’t get all the negativity towards Clifford, Kemba & Nic. This was a great team effort and Jeremy has repeatedly given thanks to God that he’s in this situation this year.

  • sws94

    But why only Nets or Sixers? With so many things that may develop over the summer, trades, signings, personnel movements, a team that’s not even on our radar may be the better option for him. I think it’s all too early to be seriously considering any team to be honest. And I think those losing teams are what they are unless they get a bunch of winning players. And that’ll be determined over the summer. As it stands now, I don’t find them to be attractive options based on their losing and how much I think Lin dislikes losing. My major point is let’s not discount how much losing and winning may play into the equation when the time comes.

    In the meantime, he loves his teammates and wants to accomplish at least going as deep into the playoffs as possible. And that’s all I’m hearing from him. I think he wants this season to go on as long as possible and it’s interesting to see how much many of his fans here seem to just jump past the playoffs and see him on the next team. And he may not have given much thought to that at all yet.

  • DaBoss

    Psalm, just saw the new letter addressed to Mr. Bernstein. Just a suggestion to send the letter to Adam Silver not Adam Bernstein. My daughter’s good friend knows Adam Bernstein very well – he is a 23 year old NBA employee who does not have the power to change anything – and actually doesn’t really like his job. Hope its not too late to change it.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree with you that he will take into account whether the team can win…But he will also take into account playing time and the chance to at the very least, compete for a starting spot….With the Hornets, he’s only viewed as a reserve no matter how well he plays..For me, that’s very depressing, specially when you take into account the fact that he’s 27, not Jamal Crawford who is 36.

    Lin didn’t get any offer to start last summer, but the possibility may be there this summer…

    Lin is young at 27 and has a lot to prove..He wasn’t happy when he lost his starting spot in Houston and than with the Lakers, so we know he has a preference to start since he stated so recently..He’s a team player and will do whatever the coach demands from him with no complaint, but if it’s up to him, he’d rather start.

    Lin will not go play for GS or Spurs simply because he will win there..Are you really winning if you’re only getting 15mpg…..

    I’d rather Lin go test himself with teams like Nets and Sixers and find out whether he could re-ignite Linsanity again…This is the dream of most Lin fan, including myself and that is more possible if he gets the chance to start.

    The reason why so many here, including me, wants to see Lin with Brooklynn is because it’s one of very few teams that need a starting PG…they were also interested in Lin the past summer but Lin asked for 5M so they moved on.

  • Thank you, great idea!
    I’ll relay it to the team so they can decided if it should be directed to Adam Silver

  • DrewBear2

    Jeremy understands that his performance during the playoffs will be the biggest factor in the offers he receives in the off-season. He had a good regular season with flashes of brilliance. By his own admission he struggled with his shooting and it resulted in obvious inconsistency. If he can contribute significantly to the Hornets advancing in the playoffs, many more people in decision-making positions will give serious consideration to offering him a contract.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I was about to state exactly that…When Linsanity came about, it was with Carmelo and Stoutmire injured…..No on expected a rookie to lead this Knicks roster to 8 straight wins

  • DaBoss

    No worries. I sent an email to you with some other info too.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    omg! james harden plays for the hornets??
    https://youtu.be/gZnkAOA61wI

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I totally agree with you…While Lin was clearly told he would not start because of Kemba/MKG/Batum, this situation changed when MKG got hurt.

    At that point, I thought Clifford should had given Lin the nod to at least see how he does and Clifford did not even give it any thoughts….Instead, he went with PJ Hairtson.

    Starting PJ ahead of Lin was where Clifford lost me and many other Lin fan….That tells you he can only see Lin as a bench player no matter what…That can’t be good for a player that is 27.

  • TTNN

    LOL, AI

  • DrewBear2

    “…no playoff either for them before!”

    Before when? It’s easy to look up these historical records.
    2014-15: 33-49, no playoffs
    2013-14: 43-39, lost in the 1st round of playoffs

    Management was clearly disappointed with last season and made significant changes. That’s to their credit. Jeremy was one of those changes. But to credit Jeremy with 100% of the reason for this year’s success is unfair to others who contributed.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Batum looked worst to me. both Batum and Big Al imitated Harden’s Matador D

  • DrewBear2

    You may not agree, but there was sound reasoning behind Clifford’s decision. The bench needs a PG. If Jeremy starts alongside Kemba, who takes over for the 2nd group when the starters rest? Also consider the size disadvantage a Kemba/Jeremy backcourt presents.

    The fact is that the PG rotation 1-2 punch of Kemba & Jeremy was a huge factor in why this team succeeded beyond expectations. You can disagree all you want, but you can’t deny success.

  • real-dsb

    Here is the official schedule (scroll to bottom):

    https://www.facebook.com/NBAONTNT/app/1461998647452044/

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Batum is so over rated as a defender…He looks as lazy as Harden on defense.

  • james brown

    did i say 100% for jlin credit? changes did wonders for the team. jlin sacrifice was evident because he is a team player. i am here because i follow jeremy in details and i can see and saw how he helped the team..i am not KW fan, thats FOR SURE, but look at KW when pressured as before and let see KW doing free because he can do everything even with less D. they know KW can’t bring ther bacon alone so they got jlin on their mind even before the last summer as evident by cliff’s words.

    all helped ! but some here say that a non playoff tean is a scrub and always a scrub team will never be true. changes will change them. and thats my point here..hornets though not playoff bound before made the stride and become playoff contender..which may happen too to sixers and nets! we shouldn’t under estimate some nba teams just because we don’t like them!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    what is Batum doing? Lin gets chewed out, benched
    https://youtu.be/_peIfH9cOLY

  • Steppen03

    I don’t talk the “small” about KW – look at I. Thomas ? It’s the entire offense, playmaking, etc… CCliff is to be blame.

  • FrankW

    Carlos Boozer’s playoff average was 17.1 points, 11.1 rebounds. Plays well with Lin, could have used him in game 1.

  • sws94

    No. Not at all. But there was also a 7 game losing streak, a Carmelo revolt and a coach saying good-bye. It turned out to be a very strange roller-coaster ride. Linsanity was not a season-long thing, it was a few weeks.

  • sws94

    I’m not saying that, james. I’m saying the timetable for turning around a dismally, not a bad, a dismally performing team like the Sixers, or a not at all good performing team like the Nets, is often years, not the next season. I’m staying steadfast, grounded and practical on that. I didn’t say impossible, I said more improbable and something that I don’t know if Lin wants to gamble on.

  • FrankW

    Ronnie Price was ok in my books, wasn’t his fault started over Lin. BS used him and then glued him to the bench for the last half of the season.

  • sws94

    Yes, the playoffs can be a big factor in Lin going forward, however he wants to. We have 3 more guaranteed games. That’s it. With each win, comes another one.

  • John Focker

    I’ll say this about Ronnie Price: he’s very “creative” in his D. 🙂

    A colleague from Utah who followed Ronnie Price since college even admitted that Ronnie Price simply wasn’t very good.

  • FrankW

    May not be a good player, but he is a good guy. Shouldn’t hate on him because of BS.

  • sws94

    I see GSW and the Sixers on the opposite side of an extreme. One would be Lin going to a team just to be in a championship and the other maybe starting and leading a team that needs time to mature and learn how to win. Somewhere in-between that may be the better option.

    Last year is done to me. This year, is a whole new realm of possibilities. And he has a different type of season behind him.

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  • DrewBear2

    You didn’t use the phrase “100% credit to JLin”, but you continue to discount any contribution from Kemba while attributing Kemba’s success to Jeremy’s presence and influence. Kemba worked hard last summer to improve his shot and how often have you heard Jeremy praise Kemba for his humility and leadership on the team? Yet I sense severe disdain and disrespect for anything Kemba did. That’s just wrong, man!

    You did say “…no playoff either for them before!”, which is clearly incorrect. Even last year’s 33-49 record is way better than the 76ers & Nets seasons this year. And don’t forget that the previous season the Hornets went 43-39, not far off from this season’s 48-34. The fact is the Hornets organization is in no way comparable to either the 76ers or Nets….certainly far from a “scrub team”. (Is it really necessary to use such distasteful and disrespectful language?)

    We’re all JLin fans here. We want him to get the credit and opportunities he’s earned. But that doesn’t mean we need to bash and stomp all over his coach and teammates, especially when it’s so clear he respects and enjoys this particular group of people.

  • John Focker

    It was only a few weeks because Melo returned from his “crotch injury” and got D’Antoni fired. If Melo was out for the season and D’Antoni had his ways, Linsanity would’ve continued for much longer.

    I find your sudden lack of faith in Lin very curious, as if your account got hijacked by someone else.

  • DrewBear2

    I agree these 3 players create space for each other. Kemba’s defense is similar to Jeremy’s in that neither gets enough credit. Obviously Jeremy is bigger and stronger, but Kemba’s quickness gets him a lot of steals. They both hustle for team rebounds when the big guys have blocked out their counterparts.

    Did Jeremy help Kemba more than Kemba help Jeremy? Who knows? How do you even begin to measure that? The point is they don’t begrudge the other’s success and gladly cheer each other on. This team’s chemistry is fantastic, which is why Jeremy is having a blast playing here.

  • MorlockO

    No negativity, I just believe that without lin, Hornets would not have reached the playoffs, specially with the number of injuries they had this year…

    I believe they would make the playoffs even if they didn’t have Nic or Walker…

  • MorlockO

    Thomas is a better shooter, faster, better ball handler and craftier than kemba… I Thomas would eat kemba on a one on one… not even that high on Thomas in their first place, because they have the same problem with defense…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    begging to be screened
    https://youtu.be/Z4yh9J75Wco

  • sws94

    I have more faith in Lin than I think a lot of people do. I think Lin just needs to play with no crutches. He doesn’t need D’Antoni, doesn’t need to start, nor does he need to be a PG in order to shine in my opinion. So you are way off base if you think I have a lack of faith in Lin. And note, I’m not saying I don’t want him to be a starting PG, I’m saying he doesn’t *need* that to shine.

    I think people have their favorite coaches, not teams, coaches, they want to see Lin with and that’s why the interest in the Sixers and Nets. If D’Antoni had nothing to do with the Sixers and the new development with the Nets with Atkinson hadn’t happened, I’d think the opinions about those teams wouldn’t be so high.

    I’m in NY, followed the Knicks for over 40 years, and remember quite well the up and down feelings during Linsanity. Going out just to find fellow New Yorkers to watch Lin play and us just being awed by not only him, but the spirit and uplifting feeling he brought to his teammate and the whole MSG. But also the letdown with the losing streak, Carmelo’s acting up and ultimately D’Antoni being forced out by the diva that is Anthony. It was short and sweet, not a season’s worth of what he experienced with LA and Charlotte and 2 seasons worth with Houston. Maybe Linsanity lasts longer with D’Antoni or not, I don’t know. Anthony was the star of the team, at least he made that he had to be, and that determined what happened to D’Antoni.

  • DrewBear2

    Well, there’s no way to know “what might have been” if this or that had happened. All I know is there were many people who contributed to the Hornets’ success. Jeremy played a very important part and I was thrilled to see his breakout games against the Spurs, Cavs, Raptors and Celtics. But I’m also certain that Jeremy would be the first to say that even those were team wins and point out specific players who made critical contributions.

  • KL

    Jamal Crawford’s win for 6MOY should not be surprising to us. These “journalists” are the same guys who voted Kemba Walker as Eastern Conference player of the week (twice if I am not mistaken).

  • your son’s legendary voltaire
  • sws94

    Kemba had some great scoring weeks with a decent amount of assists and his team won most of those games. No reason for him not to get it a few weeks. Overall, Kemba had a strong year in areas he is strong at (scoring mostly).

  • DrewBear2

    Is this necessary? Do you really believe Jeremy doesn’t have plenty of clips where he messed up? Why not just show highlights of Jeremy’s best plays?

  • Rick Johnson

    Bleacher ReportVerified account

    ‏@BleacherReport

    No chill, @NBAonTNT. #NotNecessary

    https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/722650142910869504

  • sws94

    OK, the team had a lot of defensive breakdowns. They’ve watched film. They have pride and want to win. I think they’ll have a better effort next game.

  • sws94

    Is this for real? Yikes 🙂

  • KL

    Kemba has had a career year and he is a good scorer. And frankly I do not have much personal animosity against Kemba. However, my point was that the media always looks at scoring as the main criteria for most awards.

  • John Focker

    OK, so now your views on Lin are more important than those of Lin himself! Lin openly stated that he wants to start and be a crucial part of a team to goes the distance. Surely as the great Knicks fan AND Lin fan you remember THAT!

    Hornets go beyond not giving Jeremy crutches, because they’re putting the f*ing shackles on him. How’s standing in the corner NOT a waste of his PG talents? He’s the ONLY one to lead a team to come back from 20+ pts deficit versus Duncan era Spurs…in the WHOLE NBA! And you want him to be content on the bench playing second fiddle to Kemba, the great leader who led the Bobcats to 18 and 23 consecutive losses?!

    By your theory, Jeremy should be able to play GREAT without a compatible coach, so why don’t we send him back to Lakers to play for BS? Surely he must still shine by your standards. Curry did not have a chance to shine until ballhog Ellis was shipped out and then the compatible coach Kerr was brought in. So now Jeremy must achieve far more…play under incompatible coach, from the bench without primary PG ballhandling, and shoot the lights out from the corner in the rare event that some scrubs fall off the mouth of Kemba and Batum.

    I finally see why certain commenters treat you the way they do…you’re basically giving Lin himself the middle finger to what goals he has set, in favor of what YOU and apparently YOU ALONE deem appropriate for him. Jeremy’s own objectives be d4mned.

  • sws94

    What a ridiculous overreaction. Respect my opinion on Lin or don’t. If you don’t, and this applies to ALL in this forum or ANY other, I WON’T RESPECT yours.

    There is too much emotional attachment here regarding this starting or not that it is completely absurd. Saying a player is great enough to be great starting or not shouldn’t have so many people getting all indignant all the time because that’s my position. I’m putting him as stronger than you are because you are saying he starts to be great, I’m saying he’s great regardless. That’s something that should not be so hard for people to understand, you just don’t want to accept a fan has that view but too bad. I do.

    I’m not changing it. So don’t respond to me, ANY OF YOU, if you can’t accept that.

  • sws94

    I agree, there is far more. I liked Iggy because he impacts his team with his defense, leadership, sometimes scoring, and energy. Same for Lin, but he does it in a different way. Crawford isn’t as multi-dimensional from what I’ve seen.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Hello. Are you in the the wrong forum?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    go ahead and make your own videos!

  • John Focker

    I don’t think anyone here has a “personal” animosity against Kemba. For all we know the guy could be great off the court. However, as a PG, he’s incompetent in structuring the offense and as bad as Harden on defense (whether that’s due to lack of ability or willingness is arguable). Many Lin fans, if not Hornets fans as well, are upset with him because he is NOT clutch yet insists on heroball during clutch moments, costing the Hornets AT LEAST 15 games that were won or winnable. Hornets should’ve been TOP SEED in the EC, second seed at worst, sans Kemba’s antics.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    this is an individual cheating his teammates on the defensive side

  • sws94

    Maybe he is. Maybe I am too. If Lin forums want to bash others to elevate Lin and force majority view onto posters who think different that they form a clique and you’re not in it, then maybe this Lin forum needs to do some self-examination. Because that’s not a very positive atmosphere to be in.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    what makes you think anyone is bashing other players to elevate Lin? i’m just posting some very selfish defensive plays

  • John Focker

    My apologies for the extra dose of abrasiveness, was perhaps uncalled for and needed to dial down a notch. Considered deleting or editing but didn’t want to alter on what transpired after you had already responded.

    Just don’t understand why you consider Jeremy seeking a relatively more ideal environment (not even “favorable”, just fair like most other non-Asian players have it), as he’s had enough adversity to overcome without his own team creating more. Kemba’s best D all year has been on Jeremy, and Clifford was his worst handicap. An even playing field shouldn’t be too much to ask for when the league itself and the army of biased refs are more than enough to weigh him down. Sure, Clifford and Kemba haven’t acted like BS and Kobe, but that’s really not saying much, if at all. Going from F environment to one that is C+ doesn’t hurt, but Jeremy’s not one who aims low, and neither are we.

    As fans we wanna see Jeremy soar with both wings deployed, not with one tied up.

  • KL

    Yeah, I agree with your points. Kemba seems like a nice enough guy. I have personal animosity against Harden and Beverly though. Haha.

  • John Focker

    Oh, but please let me join you on those two, ESPECIALLY Bev.

    Harden was spoiled but I blame it more on Morey’s scheming. Beverley, on the other hand, let the circumstances get to his head and started acting like an a**h*le. According to one Chinese reporter, when Bev first got called back to the league, he was very polite and nice to everyone. After he usurped the starting PG position, he got progressively more c*cky, and in one instance mocked Chinese reporters not realizing that the reporter was in the room. In another instance, he threw a fit at D12, totally thinking he’s hot stuff on the team when he’s just Harden’s pet D guy.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Calm down. Calm down. “bash” is too strong a word to use here.
    Just watched a vid clip showing some messed up defense that’s all.

  • james brown

    that i don’t know either why some seems deemed avoiding? favorable opportunity rather that reinvent himself just to cater for a coach who doesn’t see him as a starter for his team!

  • John Focker

    Truth be told, Batum’s done a lot more ballhandling than Kemba had, yet people don’t pile on Batum, despite the many dumb TOs. This is because Batum passes to Jeremy when he’s open, not always but often enough. When it comes to Kemba, 9 out of 10 he will pass the ball to the side where Jeremy isn’t at. EVERY SINGLE GAME. Don’t just take my words for it though, you’re welcome to check.

  • sws94

    Fair enough, and I apologize to you as well.

    I think and hope that when the summer comes, there is a clearer picture of the best options for Lin and Lin will specify what he’s looking to find the next season or 2 or 3.

    I want to see Jeremy soar too. I like seeing his efforts going into winning. That’s why Linsanity was so great. His stats were great, his points and assists, but he also won. I think he’s a true winner. And that’s really why I like an idea of him finding first what he really wants and second, the best way he can soar and win.

  • james brown

    i used this term because other pointed it that some teams are, if not playoff bound, they see it as scrub team,,,their comment, not mine..

    you forgot top read the last part of my post?…
    “but some here say that a non playoff team is a [scrub] and always a scrub
    team…. will never be true. changes will change them. and thats my point
    here..hornets though not playoff bound before made the stride and become
    playoff contender..which may happen too to sixers and nets! we
    shouldn’t under estimate some nba teams just because we don’t like them!”

  • sws94

    My problem with Batum is not passing the ball to the weak side. That’s where Lin is when he’s in the corner quite often. Not only Batum, but Batum is an experienced enough player to look for Lin on the weak side. When he’s near Lin, he tends to pass to him and he does find Lin when he cuts. Mostly, I think Batum looks for Cody and to get it into the big man in the paint. He has too many TOs, and he may commit a crucial one in the playoffs.

  • james brown

    and who can say a lottery team now cannot go full blast and become contender tomorrow if given proper management..its all about management, and those teams were poor because they had bad ones, but now being renewed and overhauled to compete!

  • sws94

    It’s possible, may have happened in a small percentage of cases, however I think the probability and gamble of that may not make sense to Lin. We’ll see. Maybe there will be better options. It’ll all play out when the time comes.

  • KL

    Wow what a sorry lot they are.

  • sws94

    John, thanks for taking the high road. I appreciate it.

  • sws94

    He mocked Chinese reporters? That’s disgusting.

  • sws94

    Good enough. And it is bad defense.

  • John Focker

    The Chinese reporter actually asked him: “Were you talking about me?” and things got real awkward, and Bev shut his mouth. He’s not the only one either, Cousins once mocked Lin in front of teammates and reporters, to the point that his own Kings teammates felt it was awkward, which is why I’ve always opposed to Lin going to Sacramento.

  • real-dsb

    ESPN’s forecast panel called it: They voted that Iguodala *should* win, but that Crawford *would* win.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15217077/nba-mvp-rookie-year-coach-year-sixth-man-award-predictions-espn-forecast

  • sws94

    Thanks. I was aware of Cousins but not Beverley. And Beverley said he was Lin’s friend. I’m disgusted with him and a lot of what I’ve seen from him.

  • John Focker

    Classy of you as well in accepting my apology. Didn’t want the frustration getting the best of me. Like Psalm said, if Jeremy visited it’d be the last thing he wants to see. Peace.

  • james brown

    LOL..maybe he liked them too that’s why he’s a bit frustrated when some poster make fun what seems obvious?

  • james brown

    obviously..as if he let the opponent player drive to the goal uncontested?

  • sws94

    I overreacted to you. And let’s make psalm proud. He works so hard at this forum. I’m glad we worked this out.

  • John Focker

    Bev once said Lin’s his brother from another mother, and then it was anything but. When Rox played Lakers Bev was busy bumping fists or something with Kobe, perhaps seeking acknowledgment as starting PG, while COMPLETELY ignoring Lin. A total hypocrite through and through.

  • sws94

    I remember that. It was pathetic. Lin is a class guy, so no real loss to him.

  • Joe what do you know

    I like what I’m seeing…

  • John Focker

    I have zero beef with Batum, and even understand the TOs since he’s playing out of his natural position (really an SF playing PG, point forward if you will). He works hard and does not slack off on D and is fair to Jeremy on the court. And fair is good enough for me, and even asking for being favorable.

    The only enigma was his mid-season slump. I’ve often wondered whether it had something to do with the team catering too much to Kemba.

  • LinMad

    When Lin stopped helping on Whiteside or the interior D, everything looks so much worse. The Hornets bigs are just watching everyone get to the basket and the Heat bigs have a free pass to the basket. Dunks, layups, etc. This is why sometimes I feel Cliff chews Lin up for the wrong reasons. Sure Whiteside made a layup on Lin but that’s cause Batum lost his guy. Sure Lin got beat by Wade twice, but at least he contested the shots and was in front of Wade. No one came to help. You need 2 guys when Wade is driving in. Our bigs don’t even contest shots. I think Lee and Lin were some of the top guys on the Hornets who contested the most shots in game 1.

  • John Focker

    Classy of you as well in accepting my apology. Didn’t want the frustration getting the best of me. Like Psalm said, if Jeremy visited it’d be the last thing he wants to see. Peace.

  • LinMad

    yep I was lost when PJ started over Lin. I was disrespected when Lee started over Lin later in the season.

  • John Focker

    B/R really upping their game!

  • John Focker

    There’s a good reason SFs don’t handle the ball: size. While Kemba’s too short (claims 6’1″, though more likely 5’11.5″) for PG, Batum’s a bit too tall (6’8″). Most players his size cannot handle primary PG duty well, which is why there’s only one Magic Johnson (6’9″).

  • John Focker

    You’ll have the chance to make Psalm proud by providing post-game reports should Lin moves to BrookLin this offseason. 🙂

    I’m usually stationed abroad so can’t watch the games live. Was seriously considering going to the Shenzhen game in the preseason, but was too tied up with work and my young girls.

  • JJ Hui

    Not only that, Kemba always LOOKED and PASSED to the other side from Lin even though Lin was wide open ALL THE TIMES for at least 77 games out of 82 games in this whole season!!!
    Why and what to like about him? I was saying he was a likeable person in the preseason, from beginning to the end of the season not only I dislike him and anyone has any or a little bitty bit of common sense will tell Lin to leave ASAP from this toxic environment!!!

  • Linsurance

    Not clutch he leads the league in points in the final two minutes

  • Michael

    You spelled athlete wrong…

  • Linsurance

    Can’t wait for Lin to be on one of the worst teams in the NBA next year, but atleast he’ll start

  • Princess_Liv

    Got this Brooklyn cap last Xmas eve. My hunch was telling me Lin might be on Brooklyn Nets’ jersey playing for his favorite HC

    *.*/

  • Bulldog

    Just sent the email out. Thank you for writing the letter. It speaks out everything in my chest.

  • John Focker

    Yes, but he chucks the games from a W to an L. Points alone don’t mean jack if the games are lost because of chucking/stat-padding. In fact, I’ve seen him chuck to his heart’s content against opponents’ third stringers, on numerous occasions, after blowout win’s been established. That does NOT mean clutch.

  • CJSHYY

    Team can improve, 4 years ago, GSW couldn’t even make it to playoff.

  • heart

    IMO, when the NBA used other stats to compare to Lin’s stats for not getting flagrant foul calls, they have misdirected the argument and ignored the real and obvious issue. One has to ask did other players receive the same violent hits that Lin did to warrant flagrant fouls??? And if they did, we all would have heard about them by now, wouldn’t we?… And of course, the bystander observers will oblige….Listen to these guys talk and you’ll get the gist… Is this the typical ‘dismissive’ attitude that the media in general have of Lin? Pervasive thoughts in the media? Starting around mark 14:00 and ending around 19:00.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/hang_up_and_listen/2016/04/hang_up_and_listen_on_kobe_bryant_hard_fouls_against_jeremy_lin_the_rams.html

  • JJ Hui

    I guess we can let go the Lebron non whacking holding, otherwise we Lin fans will make more enermies. Steve Nash holding Lin too in one of the very exciting games when Nash was in LA Lakers. I like Nash because he is Lin’s good friend, he is kind and helpful to Lin.

  • Bulldog

    A lot of players are arrogant and inpolite since they usually are the best ones in their school teams. Coaches, sport agent and team scouts satisfy them with words and special treatment.
    Few teens can learn how to treat others properly and repect teammates under that kind of circumstance. Most of the superstars, especially those skipping colledges right to the NBA, are selfish, cruel bullies. LBJ, Kobe, KG….
    Lin, on the other hand, are the opposite of them. That’s why we love him as a talented player and a person.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    I think GSW will let Houston take game 4. So they can beat the daylight out of Rockets at GSW home turf in Game 5.

  • JJ Hui

    1000% agree!

  • Think of it as a chance for JLin to prove himself
    (if he decides to go to a bad non-tanking team)

    He believes he can start by saying “All NBA players want to start repeatedly”
    And he proved it by averaging 17.5pts/4.6asts with 46% 3FG, even when he wasn’t the main PG.
    And most importantly, he can lead the Hornets to win big games (Spurs, Cavs, Raptors, Celtics) that they had no business of winning.

    I believe JLin has the ability to turn around a bad team (with savvy FO moves) to reach playoff in 2 seasons.
    He’s 27. He would probably get 2-3 years in his peak to prove that how far he can lead a team to maximize his potential.
    He can always be a reserve when he’s 30-34

    The guy bet on himself this year and proved it big time. Will NBA teams give him a chance to start?
    It’s time to find out.

  • new game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/playoff-round-1-game-2-cha-mia-game-thread/

    The 2nd game of Playoff is here.
    – How will the Hornets respond to a 32-pt embarrassing blowout due to bad defense (outrebounded 28-42) and selfish teamball (lost assist battle 11-27)?
    – How will the Hornets solve the puzzle of Whiteside dominating inside? Al can give some trouble on offensive end to cause Whiteside to pick up quick fouls (2 in Game 1) but he’s also too slow on defensive end
    – Will Batum and Kemba play more teamball to have more than 1 assist each? Will JLin play more as playmaker with Batum and Kemba on the floor to ensure ball movement and team-ball?

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s hope and pray JLin can solve the trapping defense of Miami Heat and helps the Hornets to play teamball to pull an upset on a road game.

    http://i0.wp.com/www.jlinportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lin_LINE_LetsGo.jpg?resize=131%2C126

  • takeme2cruz

    Like he did last year joining the Hornets

  • DrewBear2

    I visit this site because I’ve found it to be a good source of Lin-related information. I participate in the forum because I enjoy the enthusiasm of my fellow Jeremy supporters.

    I’ve participated in online discussions for many years and understand how easily civil conversation turns into flame wars. I know there will always be some of that in any forum, but it looked like this might be a place where such crud was kept at a minimum.

    Like sws94 said, maybe this is the wrong forum for me. If rudeness and inane chit-chat annoys me enough, then I’ll simply stop reading certain commenters.

  • DrewBear2

    Bash is exactly the right word. And “bash others to elevate Lin” is exactly the kind of broad sentiment that shows certain Lin fans to be biased and unfair. It’s like hearing a Little League parent constantly criticizing other people’s kids, while totally denying the glaring faults of their own kid.

  • HVJoy

    Please remember this is a Lin fan site. It is fun, informative and well-moderated in my opinion.

    As a recent poster, I found fellow posters and moderators friendly and knowledgeable. I was moved and impressed with the collective ardent support they have for Lin. The continuous waves of media reports of the non-call flagrant fouls situation Lin faces in NBA is the most recent testament to the support and dedication of Lin fans to the inspiring young athlete.

    I don’t understand your accusation of “rudeness” and “insane chit-chat” of this site. It is uncalled for and insulting. Besides, your repeated use of “flashes of brilliance” to describe Lin’s regular season performance annoys me enough, I’ll simply stop reading your comments.

  • Ja Ja

    me too

  • DrewBear2

    Just in case you haven’t stopped reading my comments yet…

    There are so many posts here, I understand if you missed some of the rude comments. But they’re really not hard to find. As for inane (not insane) comments, I was referring to the frequent complaining about this coach or that player not making Jeremy the center of their universe.

    Why does “flashes of brilliance” annoy you? Jeremy has publicly and repeatedly stated that he has been struggling with his (re-engineered) shot this year. Despite those struggles, he’s had some absolutely mind-blowing performances against some of the very best teams in the league. But that level of brilliant play was not sustained.

    I know the general opinion here will be that Jeremy was not given the opportunity to play at that level consistently. Clifford mismanaged his playing time or Kemba didn’t pass to him or something else. Although I’ve noticed instances where I wish different coaching/player decisions had been made, I simply do not see this anti-Jeremy conspiracy with either the Hornets coaching staff or players.

  • DrewBear2

    You miss the point. I have no interest in highlighting Jeremy’s mistakes. I just don’t understand people who get a kick out of laughing at other player’s mistakes. These are professional athletes competing against other pro athletes. They all, Jeremy included, make embarassing blunders. I’m sure NBA players watch film of their mistakes and try to learn, but that’s not what is happening here. These videos and the subsequent mocking of players are not constructive. As I suggested before, why not post clips of Jeremy’s great plays?

  • Brewkowski

    If kw or Lin is not producing or executing the plays or playing adequate defense and his man is lighting him up then as a coach you need to make adjustments. Ultimate goal is to win, maximize the abilities and capabilities of your players, optimize them based on their skills, make in game adjustments, teach them. Can’t ignore all that for political reasons.

  • Brewkowski

    Like the karda$hian’$

  • Darin Tanaka

    I would love for Lin to play for the Jazz. They have a ton of talented players. However I don’t think Utah will want him. They are pretty invested in Mack, Exum, Neto. However those players are not PGs at all and are the primary reason Utah is a sub-500 team despite having Hayward, Favors, and Gobert.

  • Steppen03

    YES! We can’t wait…
    Good leaders lead a winning team. Look at Rockets – they’re in the C. Finals last season ??? People underestimate team personnels, chemistry, and leadership. JL7 leading a team = playoff contention. If Harden can lead the Rox to 8th seed in his first starting gig – So can Jeremy Lin!

  • Steppen03

    No Need. The sooner it’s over the sooner the Warriors can get some rest.

  • NONONO

    KW is just too weak on D

  • NONONO

    KW and Lee just weak on defense!!!

  • MorlockO

    lol Of course lin will say that, he is a nice person… I’m not… lol quite easy to see what might have been. just look at the offense when lin is not in the game…