Game 4 Chicago Bulls vs Brooklyn Nets: “Back to BrookLin Pick-and-Roll”

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3 Dec 19:30
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Time to kickoff
1 days, 14 hours, 49 minutes

A formidable Chicago Bulls (2-0) team is visiting the Brooklyn Nets (1-2) who just lost a close game on the road against the Bucks. The Bulls have beaten the Celtics and the Pacers behind strong games by Dwayne Wade (18ppg), Jimmy Butler (20ppg), Rajon Rondo (11asts/gm) and Doug McDermott (14ppg). Brook will also match up against his twin brother, Robin Lopez.

The good news is Brook Lopez will be back after 1 game of rest so we can expect the great dynamics of Pick-and-roll with Jeremy Lin will continue to grow. Despite the emphasis on motion offense, it is encouraging to see Coach Atkinson’s willingness to adapt using Pick-and-Roll (PnR) offense by employing 46.6% PnR for Jeremy so far after Game 3.

After 1 day rest, Jeremy’s shooting should be back close to his 46% FG  in Game 1-2 before poor shooting(25% FG) in Game 2 due to fatigue of back-to-back games. In the past few seasons, Jeremy has shown the ability to bounce back strong after a bad game. Nevertheless, his ability to empower his team would still be there as evident with 12pts/1oasts in the Bucks game.

It will be a tough challenge to beat the veteran experience of DWade, Rondo and Butler but if any of them had an off-game, the Nets can take advantage by maintaining a high pace of offense and good 3pt shooting to tire the Bulls out. The Nets haven’t had good 3FG% (32.1%) so they are due for a good shooting at home.

Let’s hope and pray the Nets will continue their formula of success, play gritty basketball together as a team, and finish the game healthy! It is unknown if Vasquez (ankle) and Foye (hamstring, doubtful status) are healthy enough to play.

Let’s go, JLin and the Nets! You Can Do It!

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  • 1mtoldman

    the boys are back in town–thin lizzy

  • Maknusia

    Old Moon Madness

  • 1mtoldman

    when i was 21 i looked pretty much like the lead guitarist here; think i had that guitar…maybe i still do.

  • Arsenium12 .

    They seem to get along well ….
    __________
    https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls/status/792842896340684800

  • 1mtoldman
  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy doesn’t often get annoyed. Here he’s having words with Dwyane Wade during last years’ playoffs, following Wade’s illegal screen.
    __________

  • CJSHYY

    Good news. They will change again soon.

  • 1mtoldman

    veteran nets fans say brook always does especially well playing against robin.

  • KHuang

    I wish the Nets could ship out RHJ and other players for Nerlens Noel.

    Noel would instantly give the Nets a major dose of athleticism and youth.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Lol… been calling this all summer that the analysts clearly don’t do any research on the Nets. And now they’re rating the Nets higher exactly like I expected.

  • freemind

    did they writeup about the correction or did they just quietly change it so not to appear a fool later?

  • occupatio

    it wasnt even a screen hehe. just straight pushing into lin.

  • lleepar
  • psalm234

    I think Wade didn’t expect the nice-guy Lin to stand up to him and having some words with him (not exactly jawing yet)
    Wade wanted to shove to play mind-games with Jeremy to throw him off his game, since Wade got beat a few times.

    I think Wade respected Lin more afterwards.

  • CJSHYY
  • LAJane

    Jeremy thinks rumbling is a big waste of energy, but when it comes to it he does NOT back down. If Wade insists on jawing, then Jeremy turns right back at him. Amused me “muchly” the comment in that great Slam article posted last thread about him “point-guarding the $hi!” out of the escape room game. And his comment about running the show being his natural place. Be it bball or gaming, he just compelled to organize a WIN. Reminded me of those immature testosterone-addled posters last couple of years who complained he wasn’t “Alpha” enough. Jeremy is the very MEANING of Alpha – laser focused, patient like a cobra and with the same striking speed when the opportunity shows itself, always self-observing, secured in a deep spiritual awareness. If they can really jell and have injury- free luck, I think he can lead this rag-bag mix-n-match team to impressive success…but whatever happens, his trajectory as a human being continues to be such an inspiring and thrilling ride.

    Fangirl bigly?

  • Dan Ang

    Powerful thread graphic….its hyping me up, big time!!!

  • Click Click

    Here is the promo for tonight’s game again:

    https://twitter.com/C_L_I_C_K/status/792740043802705921

    GET HYPED

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  • psalm234

    “So the #Nets shot up 5 spots to 25th in @ESPNSteinLine’s power rankings”

    The prize for beating the projected #4-seed Pacers: moving up from #30 to #25.
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17935177/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-2-rankings
    https://twitter.com/nedough/status/793130437912788992

  • Arsenium12 .
  • While Wade definitely has had his share of beef with players over the years, I don’t think he was trying to play mind-games with Lin on the rough screen. He was “getting back” at Lin for what he thought was Lin trying to diss him at the 0:33 second mark of the video.

    I doubt Lin was trying to start anything, but he runs past Wade and nudges him slightly after blowing by him for the score. Wade looks at the ref immediately afterwards and is like “Are you serious?” The ref doesn’t make a call addressing that action, rather calls Lin for delay of game for touching the ball after the basket. So Wade sees his grievance as unaddressed and reacts the very next play. The whole thing was a misunderstanding.

  • Dan Ang

    Did the announcer screamed “Lincredible” at 0:07?

  • Click Click

  • Dan Ang

    Uh oh…don’t play like a deer in headlights now!!!

  • Click Click

    He said in the interview today that he had hand-me-downs of Bambi costumes…

    And people tried arguing with me that Lin’s family was wealthy and affluent when he was a kid.

  • Steppen03

    LET’S GO, NETS!!!
    Looking forward to strong play from BrookLin & every Nets players. #HoldOurFront

  • 1mtoldman

    fangirl bigly? isn’t that the rapper nick young is dating now?

  • 1mtoldman

    this.

  • spiderman

    Honestly couldn’t care less about ESPNs rankings.
    A chimp could probably do a better job

  • 1mtoldman

    funny.

  • Michael

    There is no other player that I worry about Lin playing against more than Dwayne Wade…
    He is one of the best 2 guards in the NBA and one of the most dirtiest and reckless players.
    All I hope for is Lin to stay healthy.

  • aggressiveplayer

    DWade isn’t really reckless, but he sure is dirty. I’m also pretty sure Lin is on Wade’s bad side so that makes things worse.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Why don’t the Nets have all their interviews with the players up on nba.com like most teams do?

  • Vincent

    lin always shoots very well after a poor performance.. i expect a 25 and 7 performance tonight!

  • MEL LIN

    This is basketball not MMA. So I wouldn’t be too worried about it.

  • KHuang

    There’s NOTHING to worry about.

    Lin is the toughest guard in the NBA, it’s more about opponents worrying about him than the other way around!

    Besides, the Nets have their three headed shooting guard hellhound in JoBogSkil. Wade and Butler will have their hands full battling the best SG rotation in the NBA!

  • LAJane

    LOL. Our ex-very-own SwaggyP? Is there another rapper fangirling him now? Since rapper Iggy Azalea is gone and his ex-wife just had his second child? He doesn’t need any more fangirl biglys 🙂

  • Rick James

    doesn’t matter who Lin plays against, he should play aggressively. If DWade shoves Lin, he should trip that old man up on the next play…maybe stick out a foot at the right moment. DWade is a HOF and a great player, but he is a not a good person by any measure. When wade is on the court, Lin shouldn’t expect him to play like a gentleman either. I think Lin has his number though…we saw that in game 7 last season. Hopefully the nets crush the bulls and puts Wade in his place.

  • Rick James

    man that was awesome! LOL! I see why wade did the hard check on Lin though…we see lin get frustrated and threw the ball back into the crowd after his layup. He got a foul call on that for delay of game, but for Wade it wasn’t enough. Like I said, Lin needs to get his revenge on him tonight!!

  • Rick James

    identical twins always get along well with each other. The Markief brothers of the nba are the exact same way.

  • Rick James

    funny video I found while watching that lin clip:

  • Lin Dunn

    Who is arguing with you?

  • rookie75094

    Let’s go JLin!!!!! Spank the Chicago kobe steaks!!!!

  • Chopz

    Thats Ms. Jane if ur Nasty 🙂

  • LAJane

    Yes “toughest guard”, and the routine double and triple teaming on him proves who is worrying about who.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You could rest sured that Wade would play dirty tonight. As he got older, that is the edge he wanted; superstar calling from the ref. In a word, he feels he needs that to compete with younger players.

  • psalm234

    Very fascinating David vs Goliath strategy between 169lbs vs 600+ fighters.

    What an expected ending!
    Thanks for sharing

  • PETE B

    It’s ok we have scola

  • 1mtoldman

    gamblers elsewhere point out the nets have between the spread in all 3 games; so if you bet the nets all 3 games you win.

    spread tonite is: 6

    nets have beaten the spread comfortably in all 3 games. (tho the spread keeps shrinking).

  • Spot

    Ed Davis

  • psalm234

    NBA History of Lopez Twin-Brothers

    Over the course of his career, Brook has averaged 18.3 points, 7.4 rebounds, 1.4 assists, and 1.7 blocks per game. He was named an All-Star in 2013 as well as an NBA All-Rookie First Team member in his rookie season.
    Over his less impressive campaign, Robin has managed 8.5 points, 5.4 rebounds, 0.6 assists, and 1.2 blocks per game.

    It would not be surprising to see emotions flare between these two, as they did last year when the two competed. “I hope to really give it to Robin,’’ said Brook following last year’s game against his brother. “He was kind of making me mad out there.’’ Brook ended up beating his brother, but the matchup was very edgy.

    https://twitter.com/NetsBlogFS/status/793121623624839168

  • pistolpete

    I’m worried with Vasquez out KA will play Whitehead too much. The rookie is just not ready for prime time. Play SKil as backup PG instead.

  • 1mtoldman

    noel is miles more diverse game and of course much younger; and of course the 6ers want to move him.

    only question would be his health. (not sure if there are still issues there or not but seem to be with all the philly bigs).

  • LAJane

    Yikes! LOL

  • 1mtoldman

    i agree with this; i mean the general concept of letting skil play as pg some as well as 2.

    rotate the players who are playing the best. where’s that 8 man rotation someone posted on a previous thread: that looked good to me. (it was using the players with best PER to date).

    kilpatrick has played 25 games with the nets and put up double digit scoring in in 22 of those games (and only played 30 minutes or more 3 times!).

  • psalm234

    wow, @NBA is also getting hyped with Butler’s Bulls vs JLin’s Nets matchup

    @NBA
    Jimmy & the @chicagobulls visit Jeremy & the @BrooklynNets 7:30pm/et @NBATV! #KiaTipOff16 #CHIatBKN
    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/793203495939805184

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Nets just needs to play fast. There is no way the Bulls can catch up with them.
    Again the weak link is ….Jefferson.

  • 1mtoldman

    kurt helin at nbc sports has nets up to 22 in ranks; thats the highest. but everyone has them at least 26 after almost everyone having them 30th to start the season. (from netsdaily)

  • Rick James

    haha yeah…I thought the little guy was going to be crushed for sure…looks like a japanese video, they love these crazy fight scenarios.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    We also have RHJ, sigh!

  • Click Click
  • psalm234

    I was also thinking that’s the most effective strategy to tire out a 34-yr old vet like DWade

  • blueCypher

    Im really curious as to how lin will perform in back to backs this whole season. The 2nd game of back to backs. The nets have 14 back to backs right ? I wonder is there a stat site for players performance in back to backs.

  • 1mtoldman

    speaking of strategy; overall rondo is such a one dimensional player i would think it helps yer defensive thinking; you know he doesn’t want to drive to draw fouls (only 2 fta’s per game); he doens’t want to shoot (fewer fga’s than any starting pg but rubio) and he can’t shoot anyway (shooting a fabulous 21% so far)–all he wants to do is get assists.

  • psalm234

    I’m curious to find out what Lin meant by “finding something to throw them off, make it difficult in the defensive end, throw them off their rhythm” in the pre-game interview.

    My guess is Coach KA would ask RHJ to use his athleticism to deny DWade to get the ball in his sweet spots that he can easily drive to the rim or have wide-open shots so it really throws off his rhythm.

  • CJSHYY
  • blueCypher

    A couple of contract extensions / signings today. Lin deal looking more and more like a steal

  • CJSHYY
  • Epie

    I hope RHJ doesn’t get pushed by Wade 😛

  • Mr Chuckles

    I hate it when games are on NBA TV. I pay for league pass but then get blacked out. This is already the second time in four games the Nets are on NBA TV.

  • blueCypher

    ? What was the first ?

  • psalm234

    ESPN or basketball-reference has the Split stats showing X-days of rest.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/linje01/splits/2016

    For the Hornets 2015-16, Lin’s 3pt shooting % was the worst with 0 days of rest (27.3%) and 3+days of rest (21.4%)
    But surprisingly, Lin’s FG% with 0 days of rest was the best at 47.2%

    It’s too early too tell from 1 game but it looked like Lin would adjust well over the season.
    I had no doubt if there’s more stability with Brook’s presence in Game 3, his FG% would be higher due to better looks.

    See the attached image
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8170622e85960b0c96ac9d006b05299944ee50a64538a535e16af16610582b3.png

  • psalm234

    great point by Robin. The Nets need another playmaker so defense can’t focus too much on Lin

    But RHJ might be needed to defend DWade

  • psalm234

    RHJ is bigger; hopefully he pushes back lol

  • psalm234

    true, I’m sure all Nets players will be instructed to leave Rondo wide-open to dare him to shoot =)

    33.3% FG and 25% 3FG so far

  • blueCypher

    There is a pregame show on nbatv at 4pm pacific.

  • psalm234

    lol .. JHam wants to tame the Bulls/Vikings

  • PETE B

    rondo wade jimmy butler
    lin skil / rhj / bog

  • Yura

    I like the picture they used for Lin 👍

  • Mr Chuckles

    My mistake. I was thinking of one of the preseason games. I still hate NBA TV. If you are paying the NBA for games, why should NBA TV be blacked out? It isn’t like it is on another company’s network like ESPN or TNT.

  • psalm234

    I like it so much I used it for my Disqus and Twitter profile pic.
    The Linsanity warrior scream is so cool! 😎

  • Arsenium12 .

    Luis being very gracious and shaking hands …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/793216890361569281

  • blueCypher

    Ya the blackout thing is dumb

  • Joe what do you know

    Skipped my morning golf round for this game. Put on a good show for me Nets!

  • psalm234

    haha.. I wish =)

  • CaliUSMC

    Not sure if this has been posted. New ESPN Power Rankings for the week.

    25. Brooklyn Nets
    2016-17 record: 1-2
    Previous ranking: 30

    Kudos to Jeremy Lin, Kenny Atkinson, Sean Marks, et al. The Nets, widely billed as the league’s worst team and favored in Las Vegas to be the last team on the NBA map to win a game this season, outscored the Pacers by a heady 31-15 in the fourth quarter Friday night to claim a W that (ever so briefly) hiked Brooklyn to the heights of .500. These are the same Pacers, yes, who are such a trendy pick to make a run at a top-four spot and home-court advantage in the first round of the East playoffs.

  • psalm234

    NBA leaders in 4th-quarter scoring:

    1) @BrooklynNets – 34.0 PPG
    T-2) Thunder, Magic – 31.7 PPG
    4) Hawks – 31.5 PPG
    https://twitter.com/YESNetwork/status/793130719870644224

  • 1mtoldman

    yep. one ranking, nbc sports maybe (see posts below) has them as high as 22.

  • 1mtoldman

    hmm stats im looking at has rondo at only 21% as i have above; have 25% for 3 tho same.

  • 1mtoldman

    do nets have a mascot? (what would a “net” mascot look like?)–robin lopez is famous for has assaults on mascots.

  • heart

    Agree. It’s so obvious for most observers that first unit needs more offense… We’ll see if SM and KA make it happen or let politics rule as usual since RHJ is their draft pick. They’ve been promoting him since preseason.

  • Win

    I am hoping KA finally see the big picture that this team is a possible playoff team. I am very tire of the player development strategy that cost us Game 1 and Game 3. We would have been 3-0.

  • PETE B
  • KHuang

    RHJ is a FAKE defensive player, that’s the one guy that SHOULD NOT be guarding Wade!

  • Arsenium12 .
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    any good stream??…My league pass does not have the game because it’s on NBA TV

  • Click Click
  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    I still disagree with that strategy. But there’s no reason why Lin can’t play with Skil many minutes in the game. I still think Skil is best used as a strong penetrating scoring explosive force on the second unit. Because when the perimeter shots don’t fall on that unit, he’s the only one really that can provide that.

    I think it’s much more important to have him in with Lin at strategic points in the game, during runs, end of halves and games, that it is to start the first and third quarters. I understand the reasoning of his point. And I agree with someone else handling the ball to take pressure off of Lin. It should be RHJ but he’s horrible at handling the ball. Bogs will have to handle the ball some.

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  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    stream?

  • cshot

    yes floaters plz lol

  • tee

    isnt butler a guard?

  • PETE B

    skil and harris is 6 th men , whitehead backup PG , Scola Hamilton bench bigs
    reserves CMC bennet

  • grover chang

    Hmm. Top 16. You are in the playoffs.

  • Click Click
  • psalm234

    Noone above 30 min except @JLin7
    Coach Atkinson wants a deep team like #Spurs

  • Linning is winning

    go lin!

  • Click Click
  • Win

    But I do love the adjustment KA had made for game 2 and game 3. Go Nets! Go KA!

  • Click Click

    Balanced minutes distribution. Kenny has a plan and he’s sticking with it.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    any stream?

  • Click Click
  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    anyone got slingtv blue and know if the game is showing?

  • Win

    I have a feeling that Bulter is gonna abuse Bog….

  • Click Click

    Both teams off to a good start.

  • Chipdip

    thanks!

  • Epie
  • psalm234

    What a leaner by Lin!
    22222

  • psalm234

    RHJ to Bojan 333

    Great ball movement!

  • Click Click

    RHJ making some bad shots…

  • psalm234

    Good D by RHJ to cause DWade to miss

  • Click Click

    Lin blows past Rondo!

  • Lefon Jang

    Nice take!!!

  • Click Click

    This isn’t good. Bulls are red hot right now…

  • sws94

    Bulls hot shooting.

  • CaliUSMC

    Lin 2 to’s already??

  • Lefon Jang

    Terrible defense

  • cshot

    trevor needs to roll harder

  • aras

    dude man cmon he gets 2 To too early in a game for gods sake.

  • sws94

    One was a miscommunication, the other a solid, veteran play by Rondo on a pass out.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Our defense is terrible right now

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Bulls can take any shot they want …. smh!

  • Lefon Jang

    Bulls get wide open shots!

  • sws94

    Shrug them off. I think Lin should attack and shoot, not attack and pass. Bulls are reading it.

  • CaliUSMC

    are they trapping/doubleteaming him at all?

  • Michael

    2nd one was bookers problem, why did he cut and then stop halfway…

  • sws94

    Not yet, no.

  • CaliUSMC

    ok thanks

  • Lefon Jang

    I’m beginning to appreciate Cliffo’s defense…

  • psalm234

    no worries.. miscommunication w/ Booker who stopped to roll

    as long as Lin’s aggressive to score or pass, it’s good

  • blueCypher

    Ya, uncontested looks

  • aras

    i think he should to the same hope kenny wont take him out

  • psalm234

    true, Rondo can be dangerous to deflect passes with his long arms

  • sws94

    Lin steals it from Wade. That makes up for a TO.

  • psalm234

    Lin stole DWade’s ball

  • webattorney

    Wow, defense with so many holes.

  • rabit1111

    Needs to slow down. Nice dish there !!!

  • psalm234

    Lin’s assist to Harris
    11-18

  • Click Click

    Nets are off sync

  • Win

    RHJ cant buy a shot. JH!!!!

  • rabit1111

    What kinda offense was that.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin’s the only guy closed out on shooter

  • SeaKing33

    Yea why does he always have to shoot after he gets the pass…move the ball…

  • Click Click

    Another nice pull up jumper!

  • rabit1111

    Our boy is aggressive

  • Win

    Nice D by Lin!

  • psalm234

    Great example of Lin’s complete game,

    1 steal, 1 assist, 1 foul-drawn by Harris in a span of 3 seconds

  • rabit1111

    Why did Harris shoot that

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin on fire

  • Click Click

    Uh oh, Whitehead is in.

  • sws94

    RHJ looks pitiful on O.

  • Click Click

    RHJ needs to stop taking shots and stick with easy layups.

  • I am The Jason

    Lin has the ball and the team just watching. Give Lin some screens, make some cuts. Don’t just camp out on the 3 pt line.

  • psalm234

    Lin’s jumper is so smooth
    13-22

    4pts/1ast/1stl in 8 min

  • webattorney

    D. Wade playing like a star even at his old age.

  • rabit1111

    Everyone is playing like street ball

  • Win

    Omg RHJ, 0-3, 1 TO.

  • psalm234

    Nets Transition D got exploited by Bulls for easy points

  • YESYESYES

    RHJ should be benched if he cannot improve after 3 bad games

  • Win

    KA should be the starter!

  • Win

    I mean Klip.

  • CaliUSMC

    whitehead and rhj = garbage

  • psalm234

    Way too many easy transition points for the Bulls

  • zxcvb

    No one but Lin can score tonight. RHJ is really hurting them — not doing anything out there on either end.

  • rabit1111

    What was whitehead thinking about going for an air floater.

  • Win

    WTH was that Whitehead?

  • Lefon Jang

    airball on a layup

  • aras

    Lin has to score this game screw all else

  • cshot

    whitehead is out of control

  • Win

    Lol.

  • zxcvb

    Lin has the hot hand tonight. He has to take over and shoot 20+ times.

  • cshot

    j has 6 points?

  • Yura

    🙁

  • YESYESYES

    Nets has bad situation for backup pg

  • rabit1111

    The D is horrible.

  • gandychan

    What happened to motion offense? Why is there so much ISO ball from whitehead and rhj?

  • psalm234

    Bulls are making all the shots & exploited Nets weak transition defense 🙁

    Hope they cool off soon

  • YESYESYES

    Whitehead and RHJ are very careless, totally out of control

  • james brown

    KA needs to see RJH is not making it the minutes given him…let him practice more for his minutes to gain.

  • negsintheair

    C’mon AK, if you want to win, please give Lin more play time!!

  • james brown

    nets has no urgency today?

  • webattorney

    I think RHJ is bad until I see Bennett play. Lol

  • Lefon Jang

    Those are uncontested shots.

  • kauaiblue

    This group is bad,,.

  • james brown

    LOL

  • rabit1111

    With all the open shots they are getting I don’t think their % will drop

  • CaliUSMC

    i can’t watch this omg lol

  • webattorney

    Then Whitehead. Three stooges.

  • Win

    Bulls have a deep bench too.

  • Click Click

    Lin and Booker back.

  • webattorney

    I am telling u. Shouldn’t compare this group to Knicks role players during Linsanity.

  • Click Click

    Lin with a 3!!! He’s hot tonight!

  • CJSHYY

    KA sucks. This Motion system is not working. smh!

  • Lefon Jang

    not much rest there for Lin!

  • psalm234

    very true :[

  • CaliUSMC

    4-4 lets go

  • Epie

    Sigh.. Whitehead still playing on my feed lol

  • negsintheair

    Net will loose ugly today!

  • Win

    I can’t believe I am missing Foye so much.

  • JoeTeam

    crazy Mulan hair … 3!!!

  • Win

    Lin 3!!!!!!!

  • zxcvb

    Lin ON FIRE tonight. Making up for last game.

  • Click Click

    Lin got fouled. They can’t stop him tonight!

  • psalm234

    WHOA.. Lin had no hesitation on that 3!!

  • webattorney

    It’s like a pro team vs. a good HS team.

  • Click Click

    Lin with 11 points!

  • Win

    omg 35 pts 1st qtr

  • CaliUSMC

    LIN LAYUP

  • SeaKing33

    Lin is carrying this whole team…so frustrating

  • Win

    Wade 3 pts has improved a lot this season.

  • Lefon Jang

    except the last one lol

  • Win

    38 Pts. Our D is terrible.

  • sws94

    Changed my mind. Start with Skil. I almost want to send RHJ to the D-league at this point.

  • zxcvb

    Lin probably should have shot that last one instead of passing to Scola. He can’t miss right now.

  • rabit1111

    Not going to help I feel no one else can hit a shot. What happen to the grittiness of this team. No effort on the D at alll.

  • Chipdip

    One guy from the Nets to play against the Bulls! Ain’t gonna to work…

  • sws94

    He has to play some point. He’s already scored a bunch. It was a good shot and look for Scola, he missed it.

  • psalm234

    Lin excellent drive and layup over 6’10” Mirotic!

    11pts/1ast/2 rebs/1stl in 9 min of Q1

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    at least is HOT

  • sws94

    He’s on fire. Looks great.

  • zxcvb

    There were 4 fouls though — next one would have sent him to the line.

  • sport

    Geez Bulls acquiring the younger Robin Lopez (brother of Brook Lopez) and Wade improved them tremendously! I just got back home, was listening to the live audio and they are playing lights out! It’s a good thing Lin’s competing and making shots but he will have to take more shots and playing his mind out to win. This is going to be a tough game. Bulls are a better team than Pacers for sure!

  • CaliUSMC

    Will Lin get a new career high tonight?

  • sws94

    Good point!

  • rabit1111

    This game will be over by 3rd quarter

  • cshot

    jeremys the only one doing good :/ god dam. of course rondo and wade have to be shooting lights out lol

  • Yura

    Only if the rest of the team can play better. Haven’t seen any Booker action yet..

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin’s 5/5

  • Win

    40 pts night baby along with 10 assist.

  • james brown

    he’s not making all effort to make his shots viable..no grit yet and determination. needs to practice and has immersion to change his attitude.LOL!

  • pistolpete

    Can’t understand KA’s love of Whitehead

  • webattorney

    RHJ, Whitehead and Bennett — worse than 3 stooges.

  • Yura

    Think positive!

  • GoJLin!

    With 5/5 & 1/1; 100% PG%!

  • Win

    I have been saying starting Skil over RHJ.

  • aras

    Lin needs to rest dude

  • Click Click

    Wow, Nets can’t buy a basket tonight… other than Lin of course.

  • webattorney

    Game almost over. Nets’ D has many holes like Nets.

  • james brown

    no one is moving and screening him..4 players were bird watching!

  • LAJane

    Re KHuang on guys with undeveloped fundamentals, yet again!…both Whitehead and RHJ are very young, both had to have big expectations for themselves because of all the high school honors, both left college two years early. Lin had exceptional emotional maturity at their age, prolly because of the obstacles he faced. They don’t have that…too young, over-eager. Even if they think they want to buy in to KA/Lin team concept, I doubt they know how to do that. It’s going to take hella patience to develop those boys. I think they are going to be an issue the whole season, imho.

  • CaliUSMC

    I really don’t mind if Lin takes 20fga’s tonight. lol

  • psalm234

    Good drive by Booker
    2 FTs

  • rabit1111

    Wow. They have to capitalize these turnovers.

  • sport

    Lin knows how good this Bulls team is just by the deficit! Have to be aggressive and make his shots.

  • rabit1111

    Omg. What the **** was that. 3 chances to make a shot right at the basket.

  • aras

    wow..yeah we are losing this one

  • JoeTeam

    seems they are playing without calm.

  • Win

    The Bulls is good. Real good this year.

  • I am The Jason

    That last sequence by the nets was just shameful. 3 players under the basket and still could not score.

  • pistolpete

    Play SKil at pg dude

  • zxcvb

    Lin got hammered…no call. And his teammates can’t make anything tonight.

  • Lefon Jang

    3 chippie and no one can make one

  • CaliUSMC

    gonna eat some halloween candy and watch westworld. later yall -_-

  • cshot

    damn that no call. that was bad

  • sport

    Yes it’s ridiculous, 3 guys, 3 shots and still no basket. Would rather they took the shot back out.

  • rabit1111

    Everyone need to effing calm down. KA needs to settle everyone down.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah. It’s a long game and Lin has a hot hand tonight. Just need to settle down and focus on defense.

  • zxcvb

    No 50/50 calls on the road…no 50/50 calls at home.

  • pistolpete

    Where is Brook?

  • psalm234

    Nets D got a little better to start Q2 but offense has a hiccup..

    Defense need to hold
    23-40

  • Win

    Omg. Ham…

  • rabit1111

    Yeah. Effing pathetic. Sorry for the language but just got to say it

  • cshot

    like really… mirotic gets wiiiiiiiide open 3s? this defense

  • Win

    I like Klip’s spirit!!!

  • zxcvb

    Rolled his ankle…luckily that’s not a big problem. Just need some tape and a rest.

  • psalm234

    ouch, JHam rolled his ankle :{

  • GoJLin!

    JLin 2nd STL! (1STL, 1 AST within 10 sec)! Go LIN Go!

  • rabit1111

    There u go. Play within the system. Booker with a steal. Now play some D

  • Win

    We are ice cold.

  • Win

    Nice pass!

  • zxcvb

    Lin hustling like h*** despite no calls.

  • LAJane

    As always!

  • zxcvb

    Alright, some energy here!

  • psalm234

    another great Lin steal leading to his assist to Bojan’s DUNK!

  • psalm234

    D-FENCE chants! let’s gooo

  • zxcvb

    Bulls on fire…Nets only have Lin.

  • sws94

    Lopez has nothing tonight.

  • aras

    this is rough man

  • kauaiblue

    What’s going on? Lopez non existent… no one can shoot other than our boy…

  • zxcvb

    No one but Lin can do anything tonight. Lin is the entire offense and defense.

  • cshot

    just stat pad j -_____- this defense is horrendous

  • Win

    This is what happen when you sit a starter on the 3rd game of the season….

  • rabit1111

    Brook is short on his shot. I think KA needs no adjust for the second half. Slow it down and get brook involve more. Can’t be like a track meet out there

  • Click Click

    Lin is going to have to play 40 minutes this game…

  • JoeTeam

    Lin’s going to get good stats tonight, but they will lose. We wanted him to start, and how it’s going to be hard to watch sometimes.

  • psalm234

    I have to admit the Bulls is a really good team, better than Celtics and Pacers

    Many playmakers, great ball movement within Hoiberg’s system

  • JoeTeam

    yes, slow it down, but they have to work out who to play against this more talented team.

  • james brown

    you can’t play slow now because of the deficit…

  • cshot

    need to get brook going with some active pnrs

  • zxcvb

    Well, let’s see what happens…it’s a looooong game.

  • aras

    price you pay when you go to a team like this.. he should statpad as all h*** this season

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lin playing serious minutes in this game. i hope you worry worts are happy LOL

  • Win

    Call a few post up plays for Brook.

  • Chipdip

    the Nets need more than Lin that can play at the NBA level

  • rabit1111

    If play some D then it should be fine

  • JoeTeam

    I’m with you, it would be good to get him on the side of – that guy is good, but his team let him down. You know, the press thing.

  • psalm234

    Nets might lose but this Bulls is definitely better than Celtics and Pacers..

  • grover chang

    Any PNR

  • Win

    Triple Double pls…

  • webattorney

    Hopefully Nets will not be behind Philly after 3rd quarter.

  • JoeTeam

    I’ll go with you, if KA gets this team to stop playing like chickens without heads.

  • james brown

    their defense is atrocious and can’t trade basket and eat time too.

    they need fast bucks and in strings to be able to have a slim chance of winning

  • zxcvb

    Lin with a breather.

  • zxcvb

    Kenny is great at inbounds plays out of timeouts.

  • psalm234

    only if the Nets can keep it close..

    hoping the Nets can be within 12 pts at the end of Q2

  • CJSHYY

    He needs that bc in 2nd half probably will play long min….

  • Win

    Gibson is really good. Hope we can get him.

  • kauaiblue

    is this team that bad?

  • zxcvb

    Probably come back in this quarter once they’re in the bonus.

  • rabit1111

    Omg. What a terrible possession. Brook needs to post up instead of camping out at the 3 pt line.

  • zxcvb

    No. CHI is on fire with their long jumpers and Nets are cold except Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    Ask KA… his Motion system… smh!

  • LAJane

    Thanks for the talk-me-down 🙂

  • sws94

    OK, Brook may be getting into a groove now.

  • rabit1111

    There U go brook. See what I mean. Calm down And dump to brook.

  • cshot

    whitehead should not be allowed to attack lol. just pass

  • Michael

    He should go white-ahead and do that…

  • psalm234

    Excellent vet move by Brook to initiate contact on Gibson who’s too close
    And-1!

  • LAJane

    Should he go stand in the D-leage and mature? Would that help?

  • Click Click

    Whitehead out, Lin back in. He’s so not ready for NBA.

  • GoJLin!

    JLin play 15 min so far, with 11 Pts (5/7, 1/2, 0/0). 2R, 2A, & 2 STL; every minute he is contributing! Stay Healthy!

  • Win

    Tooooo raw….

  • zxcvb

    Canaan on fire…bad luck for the Nets.

  • Michael

    Lol not sure if standing would help…But some of these players seem to lack basic skills.

  • rabit1111

    D is really bad. So many open shots

  • psalm234

    yeah, being a rookie he’s not used to the fast pace yet…

    Need D-League experience

  • cshot

    lol you kidding? when you’re getting killed by canaan…..thats really really bad news

  • psalm234

    yes, #1 weakness for the Nets

  • JoeTeam

    yep, need to calm down and get some stops. Yep, trading baskets not good down so much against a more talented team. Chicago are long … KA needs to put on his thinking cap.

  • blueCypher

    Bulls seem like they are making every shot. The looks are wide open.

  • Win

    Yup. Not sure why they leave Canaan open on the second 3pts shot he made.

  • zxcvb

    Just bad luck there. Rebound bounces long…Canaan happens to be standing at the 3pt line.

  • YESYESYES

    i thought Lin had 4 assists. 2 only ?

  • cshot

    he takes way too many contested shots. he needs to operate the offense.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin may only play 25 minutes tonight if they don’t bring the game closer

  • Howan Cheung

    Nets can’t shoot tonight. Also the bulls play really good and so much talent

  • rabit1111

    Hmmmm. Wonder why that is. Our D is terrible

  • Jedi

    Darn it, just drink the sprite already!! Annoying ad.

  • psalm234
  • zxcvb

    Alright, Lin needs to take over. Force the refs to make some damn calls.

  • pistolpete

    Nobody can make a shot

  • blueCypher

    D is bad. Still, I expect the bulls to “cool” off a bit in the 2nd half

  • Sophie Paris

    Need a big 2nd half and make every shot

  • james brown

    even rondo knows that thats why he’s doubling Brooks after the pass

  • Alaingrvis

    canaan looking like a star

  • Click Click

    Lin to Harris 3!

  • cshot

    so careless….. my goodness

  • YESYESYES

    Wake up!

  • zxcvb

    It’s like Lin is playing with D-Leaguers.

  • CJSHYY

    Who?

  • Click Click

    Lin got hit in the eye by Gibson! ><

  • Lefon Jang

    making chicken salads out of chicken sh*ts

  • blueCypher

    Holy, grab a rebound.

  • zxcvb

    Terrible defense by Booker…can’t even get that board that bounced right to him.

  • zxcvb

    Booker is playing terribly…maybe he’s still banged up from the other night.

  • Click Click

    Lin took a charging!

  • cshot

    free throws plz jeremy

  • zxcvb

    BTW, Butler has been on Lin since the first few minutes.

  • LAJane

    One of his specialties…

  • psalm234

    Man, Lin’s still wincing .. Hope his eye is okay

  • Click Click

    Lin with a drive! 14 points now!

  • Win

    RHJ us soooooo bad.

  • zxcvb

    He’s hard to watch. Missed that layup by 3ft

  • psalm234

    Great help defense by Lin on Butler

  • aras

    Nice lin

  • Bulldog

    His PER is 1!!!!

  • blueCypher

    RHJ tries to make plays , usually drives, but he just does not have the touch.

  • zxcvb

    Guess the eye is okay.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin should run a session on defense

  • psalm234

    Man, Booker feet briefly landed on Lin’s chest on the ground

  • kauaiblue

    not a good last shot…

  • Win

    Lin took too long.

  • zxcvb

    Lin should have shot the pull-up 2.

  • cshot

    that wasnt too pretty by lin but its aight

  • YESYESYES

    Why RHJ is on the court at all?

  • cshot

    defensive purposes really… he cant make a shot to save his life

  • kauaiblue

    19 points after horrendous play by nets and superb shooting by bulls… there is a chance…

  • james brown

    he has only one speed with reckless abandon!

  • zxcvb

    Basketball is a looooong game guys. Just need a good 3rd quarter and a great 4th quarter.

  • blueCypher

    Whitehead is making me wish for Vasquez to come back sooner

  • Yura

    He should’ve taken the last shot.

  • GoJLin!

    End of 2nd Quarter; Lin 18 min, 14 Pts (6/8, 1/2, 1/2) 2R, 3A, & 2 STL; wonderful helper!

  • Michael

    sigh if only that were true, his defense is….trick or treating.

  • kauaiblue

    he is terrible…

  • YESYESYES

    4 games combined fewer than 10 pts. OMG

  • aras

    hes gotta use floaters they are seriously there aaaall the time

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    man, Bog and RHJ has low basketball iq on offense

  • LAJane

    I don’t think RHJ and Whitehead realize how much they’re still owned by their high-school star mentalities. Maturity isn’t easy, and it isn’t quick. My vote is for D-league.

  • webattorney

    RHJ plays BB like a football player. Maybe he should have played football instead.

  • blueCypher

    Yup, if they can cut the lead down to about 10 points heading into the 4th quarter they have a shot.

  • psalm234

    JLin with 14pts/3asts/2rebs/2stls/2tos in 19 min at the half

    Down 44-65, Nets D can’t allow wide-open shots to have any chance to cut the lead

  • zxcvb

    He’s not even getting rebounds or steals. Or picking up fouls by playing physical defense. Soft on both ends.

  • james brown

    sometimes one skillset is just limited that how much you juice it, little liquid comes out on it!

  • kauaiblue

    there’s a chance… bulls were hitting everything…

  • Chipdip

    The GM of the Nets (Mark) please bring in better players… please

  • CJSHYY

    Why his teammates all failed to make the shots today??

  • blueCypher

    They were certainly hot, but Nets helped them by playing terrible defense.

  • Briiick

    Saw it, scary.

  • webattorney

    Bulls will not play as badly as Nets did because they have Wade and vets.

  • SeaKing33

    Yeah at least attempt the shot…it’s not like Lin didn’t give him enough time…man these guys really need to step it up.

  • CJSHYY

    Send the tweets to Nets..lol

  • aras

    man not gonna Lie this make me actually miss Charlotte days the games were close. this is some rough chittttt….

  • blueCypher

    Cut down RHJ minutes , give to Skilpatrick.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lin is carrying my fantasy league

  • zxcvb

    Conditioning not great early in the season. Even Lin needed a day off to recover.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    h3ll no

  • Briiick

    even when Lin is off the ball…

  • cshot

    i feel yah but im happy that lin gets to take charge. get to see a lot more lin than terrible kemba isos

  • BobbyH

    None available. Only can turn under stone.

  • webattorney

    Games were close, but Nets seem to be always behind and needing to rally.

  • HVJoy

    because… it’s the night of ghost and goblins? lol

  • Chipdip

    🙁

  • cshot

    plz!

  • blueCypher

    How many minutes for Brook Lopez that half. Are they trying to limit his minutes this game ?

  • webattorney

    Lin needs to go off for 40 points in this game.

  • cshot

    hope jham is ok. and i miss randy lol

  • sws94

    Well, that team had more depth and talent. Lin is developing his full game here, it’s just, there will be games like this where the Nets are totally outclassed. But, there’s still another half to go. Can’t be any worse than the first half.

  • sport

    You do realize this is a completely different Bulls team than last season right? They got rid of a lot of their players and are rebuilding!

  • BobbyH

    No offense, no mo, no p&r, no movement. Most street balls,

  • blueCypher

    Randy and – gulp – Vasquez are missed 🙂

  • Win

    Ehhh. Not really. At least Lin is the starting PG.

  • YESYESYES

    It seems i have to stick with my original goal for Nets – 2 wins for the first 10 games . 3 for next 10 and 3 or 4 for the rest of season.

  • webattorney

    I think Nets would be willing to pay Canaan $15 Mill per year. Lol

  • guest

    They need to go small ball. With outside shooters.

  • I am The Jason

    This team does not set many screens, they don’t move around the court. The just stand around the 3 pt line or iso when they get the ball On defense, all the players converge on the Bulls player going to the basket leaving more Bulls players open for uncontested shots. Only Lin is playing smart. The rest are having a brain fart.

  • Win

    And they already play with chemistry

  • james brown

    they can easily spot on on who to guard and nets will crumble..even Brooks was missing.

  • webattorney

    I said Nets’ record will be 30 at best.

  • GoJLin!

    Lopez play 16 min, not bad on min, 9 Pts but with 0 Rebounds!

  • sport

    Nope I get to see Lin take 16 shots per game with starter minutes. I don’t miss the ball hog, iso players at all!

  • james brown

    wade told the team, just guard or double JLIN and nets will fall

  • Bulldog

    RHJ can’t do anaything on the court.

  • zxcvb

    He’s a 3&D guy who can’t shoot 3s or play D.

  • Guezt

    Nets are still in preseason form.
    Look at the bright side, they can only get better

  • james brown

    RHJ is just ATROCIOUS!

  • YESYESYES

    30 is better than most people have expected.

  • sport

    Home announcers said Brook had several surgeries in the past on both legs? Said they might limit his minutes for healthy or trade. The way they said it made it sound like Lopez might seriously be traded.

  • Briiick

    This is the result of giving too much freedom to rookies, they lose focus. Motion offense should only be played occasionally for this team.

  • Chipdip

    haha… painful process … painful

  • webattorney

    20 (last year) + 10 games more due to Lin effect = 30.

  • james brown

    but where was his defense? even his rebound were also missing!

  • Howan Cheung

    In soccer we say that everyone can defend, supoose this doesn’t hold up in basketball. It is like watching a slaughter

  • blueCypher

    Offensively , he basically has nothing. Defensively , I guess he is solid but he’s not close to elite level

  • heart

    And no one created for him. He had to do it on his own. Nets fall into Bulls hand by playing fast pace. This motion offense is making everyone work very hard for their points. The offense, spacing and positioning are all out of sync. No one knows who to pass to bc everyone is moving around so much. No court vision. No defense either.

  • james brown

    still missing in action

  • Bulldog

    He even can’t grab the rebounds.

  • BobbyH

    If they play like tonight. But they can get better, if only if. Everyone needs to step up.

  • webattorney

    Wade, Gibson, Butler etc. are not going to panic; they are going to milk the clock and take decent shots.

  • Win

    Lol.

  • webattorney

    If they play like tonight, Nets record will be less than 20.

  • sport

    He should not start period. Play Kilpatrick as starter to see what he can do! Technically that’s what we should’ve been doing Preseason!

  • tee

    he doesnt even try to get rebounds!

  • I am The Jason

    Who said he is a 3&D player????

  • Click Click

    It was an ugly 1st half, but I think a lot of people are overreacting again…

  • Win

    Bulls have blowed out the Pacers by 17 pts. It is just normal that we are having a hard time against them.

  • Michael

    I know I am.

  • james brown

    nets to play fast, because they don’t ahve the luxury of time. The motion offense has no motion and tehy are not moving thats why.Lin need to make his own shot because no one is moving to position themselves better

  • Yura

    Please pleaseeeeee make a come back please!!!!

  • Win

    I am not.

  • sport

    LOL down by 21 points by 1st half, this is not overeating. Anymore and it’d be a blowout!

  • Win

    But Bulls have blow out the Pacers as well.

  • Bulldog

    He has no D and no 3s. Just bad plays after bad plays.

  • blueCypher

    Make a run to cut it down to 10 by 4th quarter , and we’re all good 🙂

  • james brown

    they play lousy and with 21 margin…come on..they need energy and then maybe!

  • sport

    It’s obvious the Bulls are miles better than the Pacers. They are a tough team to beat. Getting rid of all their old players and D Rose while getting Wade and new young players was the smartest decision ever!

  • Yura

    Why isn’t booker hustling?

  • Bulldog

    RDJ gave wade an easy one.

  • Chipdip

    Hope Lopez will play like a big centre!

  • sport

    Holy smokes Booker went up high and intercepted that Alley-Opp!

  • Win

    I like how Booker plays, even he is missing some open shots.

  • Michael

    He has no D…

  • GoJLin!

    Yes! With Lin’s 4th Ast!

  • aras

    YOU SERIOUS YOU GIVE LIN THAT TURNOVER?

  • cshot

    omg thats a to on lin?????

  • sport

    They also gave Lin, Lopez’s turnover at the beginning of the game!

  • Win

    They are double team Brook.

  • zxcvb

    That was a terrible handoff, Lin never even had possession.

  • Howan Cheung

    time for more shooting training for the whole team

  • GoJLin!

    After that TO, Lin STL 2 STL 🙂

  • cshot

    jeremy doing freaking everythign. he needs help from this stinky team

  • zxcvb

    Lin is a steal machine.

  • sport

    Nice steal by Lin. They will need a miracle to turn this game around. Score looking like a blow out.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    man, Bog..

  • aras

    can someone complain to the nba to take of that dumb as TO?

  • occupatio

    how many steals?

  • YESYESYES

    Lin should take over the control

  • GoJLin!

    So far 4 steals

  • sport

    Awesome rebound and put back. I’m so glad we have a monster in Brook Lopez!

  • Michael

    Give that TO to the record booth.

  • Michael

    Shall we call him “The man of Steal”…

  • zxcvb

    Alright, under 20…that’s a start.

  • kauaiblue

    Still a chance…

  • aggressiveplayer

    Lin may have 3 turnovers but he has 4 steals.

  • sport

    Coach need to makre more plays for both Lin and Lopez. Lopez always makes his shots at the post! Teams can’t guard him not even his younger brother!

  • Yura

    I have a feeling they’re going to get close.

  • zxcvb

    Only 2 really and another was Booker’s fault (Kenny even benched him for it).

  • Howan Cheung

    hope they start their furiuous catchup right now

  • blueCypher

    Indeed ,

  • blueCypher

    They may need to play Lopez more in the 2nd half

  • sport

    Lin was unfairly given Booker’s TO. Booker was the one who made the bad pass even the announcer said “BOoker TO” but the box score gave it to LiN!

  • BobbyH

    Nothing goes Nets way

  • zxcvb

    Lin not getting any calls.

  • GoJLin!

    Plus 4 AST & 14 Pts, 2R!

  • sws94

    Bogs is cutting nicely but doesn’t finish well. Lin fouled by Lopez on that drive.

  • zxcvb

    Bojan…oy vey.

  • kauaiblue

    rhj is useless…

  • sport

    Sit Bog, he doesn’t have it tonight…oh coach made the sub before I could finish typing. Thumbs up for KA!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Bog has messed up 4-5 of Lin’s assists

  • Win

    That was a foul on Robin. Smh.

  • sport

    So glad he’s benched. KA should seriously try Lin x Kilpatrick. Also where is Scola?

  • Bulldog

    Play Harris and SKil

  • GoJLin!

    No surprise, Lin’s name always associated with UNFAIRLY Calls.

  • sws94

    RHJ with another dumb play.

  • sport

    Completely agree!

  • cshot

    gg

  • sport

    Take out RHJ!!!

  • aras

    My god rondae…

  • Win

    Whitehead and RHJ……………..

  • Yura

    Again! Lol

  • SeaKing33

    Lol how does a PG have such little handle…whitehead

  • kauaiblue

    this team sucks…

  • blueCypher

    Whitehead is unable to dribble ?

  • tee

    omg whitehead crossed himself out haha

  • Vincent

    Put lin back in

  • Howan Cheung

    nothing goes our way tonight. hard to watch

  • Alaingrvis

    So many nets taking bad shots especailly rhj

  • aras

    Lin prob wont play anymore….damn

  • cshot

    rondae has proven to me nothing. god dam

  • sport

    This is so ugly. Who was at the scoring table besides Kilpatrick? If I was KA I’d bench RHJ for the rest of the game and also never start him again! He just doesn’t have it can’t defend, can’t score.

  • BobbyH

    Announcer said this is a learning tape game of what shots should take and what shots should not.

  • Alaingrvis

    Im starting to sour on the idea of rhj starting.

  • Vincent

    Come on get lin back in there

  • sport

    You kidding right? Many of us were already saying RHJ should not be starting since preseason! Start Kilpatrick or Harris!!! RHJ hasn’t had any bright spots, he makes Vasquez’s 3 pointers look like highlights!

  • kauaiblue

    this offense looks like crap motion…

  • Bulldog

    Bench RHJ. He is just wondering on the court. KA, what are you thinking.

  • SeaKing33

    There doing there own thing…not looking for the “great” shots…no passion on defense…impatient and forcing, not follow throughing their shots

  • Yura

    The one day I call in sick to watch a weekday game and I’m depressed lol.

  • SeaKing33

    Whitehead sit down.

  • Win

    Put Lin back in for double double pls.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    this game is making me sick

  • sport

    Should ask why was RHJ starting in the 1st place. Dude is not a starter can’t do anything and doesn’t affect the game!

  • kauaiblue

    of course… lol… hope you feel better…

  • Vincent

    Lin needs to get his twenty points

  • Win

    Lol. Better luck next time.

  • sport

    Are Lin and Brook going to come in before 3rd quarter ends?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lin + Butler would have been so awesome. i was lobbying for this all offseason but Lin wouldn’t listen

  • grover chang

    Fratello just said this is teaching moment to review tape and teach guys what is a bad shot.

  • Vincent

    Lol

  • sport

    Lin would not start on the Bulls. He’d be playing from the bench! I’d rather Lin have his own team and starting!

  • grover chang

    Missed first half. But I don’t see PNR with Lin.

  • Michael

    Thanks for the chuckle 😛

  • aras

    See im afraid this will be the problem…Lin might get to start here but majority of the games might be blowouts thus making him sit very long

  • CJSHYY

    Today it’s Motion system

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    we don’t know that he won’t start. Fred loves Lin’s game

  • Vincent

    Exactly

  • kauaiblue

    lets bench rhj and whitehead…

  • grover chang

    You mean NO-tion offense. I thought Atkinson learned his lesson.

  • HVJoy

    Nets’ shooting is off tonight. So frustrating.

  • sport

    Could just be PR talk. Pop also praised Lin but never offered him anything during off season. Many coaches dislike Lin. Having KA as coach is a blessing for Lin, someone who allows him the green light to shoot and lead the team!

  • kauaiblue

    Scola looks like he is running with boots on…

  • zxcvb

    Lin will adjust. He’s still trying to set guys up when he’s hot.

    From this game on, I think we’ll see Lin take over much earlier.

  • I am The Jason

    I can’t watch this massacre anymore. I’m switching to the Hawks/Kings game.

  • Vincent

    Lin def not coming back lmao damnit

  • sport

    We will need Mr. 4th quarter to play lights out to have any chance for a come back.

  • Illbe

    Motion system puts Lin in the corner 🙁

  • CJSHYY

    No need to….

  • cshot

    this sucks. i wanted more lin

  • aras

    dude its over

  • CJSHYY

    No….

  • Win

    KA should put Lin and try different up and see what is work….

  • Bulldog

    Loss in this way is so deppressing.

  • sport

    Yet Wade is still coming back in while KA is resting all his starters.

  • Vincent

    If lin coulda been the man on the hornets they would be third seed

  • JoeTeam

    Ok, time to go trick-or-treating — Go Lin!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    missed it but did Scola just blocked McDermott’s face again?

  • Vincent

    Lin payedgood tho no?

  • aras

    This what people wanted? Lin playing on a team who cant create a thing on their own? its comedy

  • sport

    LOL Scola the rebound machine but all these game are shooting bricks. It’s so awful! Why isn’t Lin in with Scola during 2nd unit?!!

  • kauaiblue

    what is the appeal of whitehead and rhj??

  • Michael

    Guilty as charged?

  • aggressiveplayer

    It’s almost impossible to come back from this.

  • kauaiblue

    JLIn and Lopez did not pnr once this game…

  • Alaingrvis

    Im not sure if the motion offense can work with these players. High PNR Lin now.Speed up the game

  • zxcvb

    Better than sitting on the bench and scoring 8p most nights.

  • sport

    Need to ask KA that cause I also want to know they are horrible! Harris and Kilpatrick are the ones who deserves the start and minutes!

  • CJSHYY

    That’s not what KA wants… he wants Motion system no PnR.

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way….

  • HVJoy

    93-66 end of 3Q. 🙁
    Can Nets overcome the deficit in 4Q?

  • kauaiblue

    whatever this offense is, it’s not working!

  • sws94

    The Nets weren’t defined yet. I think the team could use Crabbe and Johnson. Would have been a different team with them.

  • Michael

    10 3’s and 10 stops will do it…. well not really.

  • Yura

    We have hope 🙂

  • cshot

    not almost. it is impossible lol

  • aras

    absolutely would

  • sport

    KA still stubborn about the motion offense, just give it up. PnR and Post ups are the way to go!!

  • GoJLin!

    If KA let LIN play P&R, may be we will be closer…

  • kauaiblue

    That’s it?? i bought tickets for rockets… he better not bench him in the whole 4th…

  • TVN

    The team lacks talent. Other than Lin and Lopez, there’s not anyone else I’d want on my roster if I’m the GM.

    All that said, the Bulls are good. I thought they would have an issue with shooting from the perimeter, but their bench is loaded with good shooters.

  • HVJoy

    I am trying my best to remain positive.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But if they still continue to play Motion… dead end.

  • kauaiblue

    What is KA doing??

  • sport

    Lin and Lopez PnR and Post moves will do it.

  • Alaingrvis

    Thats it for Lin

  • HVJoy

    Lol

  • Acbc

    If you go to sleep, I’m sure they’ll come back and win, lol

  • zxcvb

    Bulls playing their starters…Kenny going with bench guys.

  • sport

    Starters are probably done for the game sadly 🙁

  • YESYESYES

    Nets no chance to win 20 games if RHL keep playing like this in the first 4 games.

  • Briiick

    Rookies need discipline and responsibility. You give them too much freedom, they don’t know what to do and show you their lower bound under pressure.

  • james brown

    the problem right now is that after being given a creation to shoot, they can’t convert a dime…frustrating. Jlin can score much here but still opt to involve everybody even they cant handle the pressure of a conversion.

    why is “Yes” seems tv coverage of Bulls? they seems interested in lifting the bulls rather than the nets. Halftime, they showcase the bulls rather than the nets?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lopez rebounds like a guard (a very small one)

  • sport

    RHJ should be benched with limited minutes. Someone please knock some sense into coach Kenny Atkinson!

  • zxcvb

    Lin should have taken over when he was 5/5. Instead, he tried to set guys up and they bricked everything. I would complain about Lin being yanked early, but we saw in the Milwaukee game that fatigue IS a factor early in the season.

  • Win

    Put Lin back in already!!!!!!!

  • guest

    get Lin back in there for One more Run, if it fails, then pull him. Come on COACH!

  • sport

    It’s not fatigue, KA went back to motion offense with Lin and Lopez left out to dry again.

  • Steppen03

    Can JLin7 please play entire 4th quarter. I believe in miracles!

  • Bulldog

    Whitehead and RHJ are back. Garbage time!!!

  • kauaiblue

    Actually, glad JLin is out in this blowout… KA is trying to shield him from unnecessary minutes…

  • james brown

    Johnson is just a waste too with the money offered, he doesn’t clearly deserved the price tag. crabbe is also stinking or just average

  • Michael

    I used to wonder why a lot of coaches didn’t play rookies even though they were more talented than the rotation players. This is probably why.

  • Vincent

    Is lin def done

  • kauaiblue

    What a waste… i rushed home from work again…

  • YESYESYES

    It is garbage time, let RHJ clean up his mess.

  • guest

    yeah and shielding him from Wins. Kerr puts in Stephen Curry. Knows that games are about runs.

  • sws94

    Lin could work with their talents, and Johnson is better than Vazquez and Whitehead.

  • occupatio

    blowouts never stopped harden from getting his stat padding.

  • Win

    Only 22 pts. We might have a chance if we play Lin.

  • sport

    It’s a blowout and Wade’s still playing, your point?

  • kauaiblue

    well, we know that org and coach were morons…

  • GoJLin!

    At least to close the Gap; Wade still playing!

  • Win

    I just cant understand KA…

  • kauaiblue

    With this team, not gonna make a difference… but i agree that KA is botching this up…

  • zxcvb

    No. I’m talking about sitting out this 4Q.

  • TVN

    Neither Harris or Kilpatrick are good enough either.

  • Alaingrvis

    Atkinson coaches weird sometimes. why is the second unit facing off with wade

  • cshot

    crowd cheering for dwade lol. embarrassing stuff

  • sport

    Exactly it’s a blowout yet Wade still in there to seal the win. KA should not give up this early!

  • aggressiveplayer

    The fans are cheering for Wade.. this is just sad

  • BobbyH

    Practice

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    save Lin for the next game against the Pistons. i’m betting that game

  • cshot

    lol for the love of god give mccolough (i dont know how to spell his last name lol) a start over rondae

  • kauaiblue

    It’s a hopeless cause… no need to put jlin in there… i think KA has a plan, albeit a highly flawed one… as for wade, i woulda taken him out… he is old and its early in the season… that’s my point…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    yeah. i like McCullough for his length and defense

  • kauaiblue

    what is ka thinking??

  • guest

    Atkinson is killing me. Atkinson does not have the mental fortitude to want to win. Lin has orchestrated every win so far that Nets had. If it wasn’t for the off shooting (he has trouble with deep fade away shots) vs Bucks, they would have won.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Resting Brook for a winnable game against the Bucks was such a mistake…it’s one thing to do it against Warriors or Cleveland, but not a winnable game.

    Brook is not even playing 30 minutes..I’m not liking what they are doing at all…It looks like they clearly don’t care about winning when they should because they do not have their own draft pick and their current crop of young players should be in the D-league.

    Hamilton is not a center..He’s a PF…RHJ hasn’t shown me enough potential to even be in an NBA roster.

    Please, do not put yourself at a disadvantage for winnable games.

  • GoJLin!

    Chris McCullough, so hard to spell, just called him CMC.

  • guest

    What coach besides Byron Scott quits on his team at the beginning of the 4th quarter?!!

  • YESYESYES

    Save Lin, Booker, Brook’s energy for next 2 games

  • Alaingrvis

    Atkinson gave up a long time ago

  • Alaingrvis

    Just to lose again

  • YESYESYES

    RHJ looks like 3rd unit player

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Can Kenny put Lin and Brook in so they can at least get some chemistry….They have played so few minutes together, specially Lopez…Let Lopez play man….I’m already deeply getting frustrated with Kenny.

  • guest

    Basically the COACH is saying we are not good enough to make a come back. That Jeremy can’t make a come back. Instead of game film, they need to all watch Linsanity and Hornets games against Cleveland and come back from behind Spurs game.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    AB isn’t a basketball player. i don’t know how he got into the league let alone became the #1 pick

  • Win

    Way to early…..

  • cshot

    he relies way too much on his broke jumper. he needs to get down and dirty

  • Briiick

    When a team gets blown out in the first quarter, it is mostly due to lack of defense. KA needs to hold his players responsible for it. A nice HC won’t get it done.

  • Win

    At least put Lin in to try different lineups.

  • BobbyH

    Something fishy about Brook. I think either he is injured or he is already in a trade not announced

  • guest

    The motion offense hasn’t been doing anything. It’s Lin’s play making that has been saving this team.

  • james brown

    but not with that price tag..next year, they can get better players with the right tag on them. they are better without them right now. but some players on the roster needs to weed out like RJH, Scola is abit slow and aged now, Vasquez, injury prone..trade levert and a good center. when Trade comes in, they have to move if their possibility.

    right now..they can’t compete if their shots aren’t falling in.

  • SeaKing33

    As frustrating this is, let’s all have faith in KA. To be honest, Jlin wouldn’t want to play for anyone else. He’s here because of KA. It’s game 4, long season ahead of them.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    even in the paint, he misses. he’s probably the worst finisher in the league

  • sport

    And Lopez’s post moves are unstoppable! Why is coach not allowing them to playing their game?! The motion offense doesn’t work! Just give it up already!

  • cshot

    lol what did i just say. bennett is that big man at the rec that only takes jumpers and is terrible at it

  • Epie

    So tired of this motion “sickness” stuff. drop it already. jeez.

  • james brown

    well KA wants to involve everybody and has no intention on riding with Lins ability to score

  • aggressiveplayer

    At least Bennett got a slam

  • kauaiblue

    me too.. this is terrible entertainment…

  • sport

    They’ve been losing since preseason, this is not “ok”. The only game they won was 2nd regular season game. Losing this they will be 1-3.

  • aras

    The nets dont have the Talent to compete against teams seriously They have Lin and booker THATS IT get over it Lin cant turn this train wreck around seriously no one can be happy if he averages 15/7 because this team has ZERO talent absolutely nothing,

  • guest

    nor his ability to play make. He goes away from everything that works. Heck, let’s not even play Lin in the 4th quarter. What the heck is that?!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    AB’s dunks are his only reliable shot

  • Alaingrvis

    Im done watching. Atkinson again takes Lin out the lead goes up. He then
    tries the third lineup who do ok for a little then he never brings Lin
    back in. Weird coaching. Players in our third unit wont win games on 99.9999999999 percent of the time

  • BobbyH

    The system has its merits. It is the execution. Disciplines need to put in place for those break it or lazy to get to spot.

  • james brown

    injury might be making him inoperative to his full potentials

  • sws94

    Bad combo of shots not falling and poor defense. Marks has a lot of work to do with this team. But Brook really has only played well in one game. I don’t know what’s up with him.

  • james brown

    not only looks but he is!

  • Win

    Same here., I don’t mind them losing. But why take Lin out so soon?

  • Steppen03

    Honestly, its Impossible to come back in the 4th against this team. The Bulls is probably a Top 4 EC team – I’ve underestimated them. If guys are missing shots – there’s not much you can do about it… JLin7 should’ve went on tear in the 3rd AND the 4th – it’s a league of stars – he have to play like one to power this team. Then again, it’s one more game to learn from – Can’t win them all. We just have to win the next 5 games.

  • guest

    I’m done with watching Atkinson coach!

  • CJSHYY

    He gave up already…. if he continues to do so I think his boss will give him up soon.

  • Briiick

    The losing streak is not painful enough yet for the the HC to quit his system. He will learn it the hard way and never make the same mistake again.

  • Epie

    Of course it has merits, but why use it as primary. They should stick with what they do best, and gradually experiment with it.

  • BobbyH

    Spurs? It took years for Spurs to be contened.

  • Epie

    Nets?

  • guest

    He could have let Lin open the 4th and see if they could get on a hot run. Lin can stop the clock, draw fouls, and score per/min. With a couple good stops and a few shots from the other players from Lin’s passes and Lin’s defensive playmaking. He should of given him one last chance. But to not play him…come on!

  • sws94

    The team needs work. Lin doesn’t win games without others executing and the whole team playing defense.

  • james brown

    he gives up to fast? if he wants to imbibed a “never say die” attitude, he should start immediately!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Bulls got so much better just by eliminating Rose from their lineup

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This is exactly my opinion..They probably have a trade lined-up for the trading dead-line and their main priority is to keep him healthy, thus limiting his playing time as much as possible.

    They clearly aren’t trying to win games man…That really sucks…To rest one of your key player against the Buck..a win there would have really giving them a good head start…Now, they’re 1-3 and already in a hole.

  • Briiick

    Well said.

  • SeaKing33

    Well, this is suppose to be a 21 win team. We are the only who thinks otherwise, and should still put our faith in this line up. This will be a play-off team, mark my words!

  • ty

    Lin can’t even get the star treatment and a chance to stat pad, a bit..

  • Steppen03

    It’s JUST ONE GAME!!!
    Move on. It’s the road down the line. We will lose … sooner or later. And we will win some…

  • grover chang

    Why is high PNR such a sin?

  • HVJoy

    He gave up before 4Q.
    Lin (23) and all starters (except RHS 28) played less than 24 min.

  • zxcvb

    I would bash Kenny, but we all saw how tired Lin looked on Saturday.

    Need to build up strength as the season goes on. Most guys in the league are looking sluggish (even PED Wade was only 5-13 today despite playing against the Nets bench).

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Let Lin pad his stats…Put Lin back in!

  • cshot

    we need foye badly.

  • cshot

    anyone know when foye should be avail? i think he was practicing today

  • guest

    It’s a disgrace. Nets fans need to question the coaching and put pressure on him to play his starters reasonably. To call Garbage time at the beginning of the 4th or earlier. It’s a disgrace!

  • BobbyH

    2018

  • zxcvb

    He really is important. Even though his stats are low, he makes the right pass and gets Lin the ball.

  • occupatio

    many times you could see lin hijacked the motion offense by cutting back to the middle (to get the bal back) after passing the ball. he has to do that to impact the game within the motion framework. right now, its more a hindrance than something that plays to his strengths.

  • DX

    For what?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    anyone have SlingTV? i can’t seem to find any NBA games on it…

  • Geoffrey

    for his fans!

  • james brown

    he’s not a spring chicken anymore..injury will come and go with him. I Just hope that nets practice finishing better on the rim next time.

  • sport

    It’s hindering both Lin and Lopez! This motion offense doesn’t play to their strengths at all! We won game 2 because of their PnR and Lopez’s post ups! Why is coach so stubborn to bring something that doesn’t work!!

  • DX

    I am his fan, would rather he rest and stay health than play in garbage time.

  • Lefon Jang

    5 – 31 in 3s ! Stop shooting !!!

  • cshot

    lol im not going to say anything bad about kenny until deeper in the season, but i will say this…..motion offense only works when you have knock down 3 point shooters. the nets, are not that.

  • james brown

    he will be out next year. he isn’t really trying and Lazy on defense….

  • sport

    Lopez and Scola didn’t get to pad stats either. Just forget it, it’s a blow out. Better for Lin, Scola, and Lopez to chat on the bench and figure out how to make adjustments.

  • Alaingrvis

    I dislike two thing about atkinsons coaching style. One he doesnt stagger the minutes of Lin and Lopez.This is what most “good teams” do. Much more talented teams mind you. So Atkinson trusting alot of players to handle the ball and take shot that we all know wont go in. Unless its in rhythm and we are leading. The bench are front runners. If the starters are doing well they will as well. If not its over they will make it worse. Rhj shouldn’t handle the ball ever. Again we have a multi ball handler system when we really only have one true ball handler on the team. Maybe bog and Kil can do their own thing but thats it. Everyone else should never iso.I mean never. It will always be a miss. Too much bad shots and bad defense……..This has the potentail to be a looooonnngggg season.

  • guest

    Lin has great instincts to get the ball to the right players that are heating up or have mismatches. He can’t do that when everyone is just jacking up crap!

  • sws94

    I agree. Once it got out of hand, the right thing to do is sit your best players.

  • zxcvb

    Lin IS the team. Whenever they go away from him for even a minute, it’s a total disaster. Even last game, Lin was ice cold from the field, but his passing and defense made it a nail-biter.

    From now on, Lin needs to be more selfish. He had the hot hand tonight, but stopped shooting to set guys up. That’s okay — he’s trying to be a leader. But it’s already clear that his teammates can’t deliver most nights. Kenny and Jeremy must adjust.

    Lin needs to be the Nets’ Westbrook. Just take over every night from the opening tip. Don’t shoot 40 times, but maybe 20.

  • sport

    Stop shooting so many bricks! Players should be taking a variety of mid range 2s and cutting to the basket. KA have none of those!

  • james brown

    all the game right now is on Kennt Atkinson, Losing and winning. His principle and adjustments are so evident and needs to be developed also. I hope they brought in a consultant coach just for Kenny’s development too!

  • sws94

    They lost 3 out of 4 regular season and 5 out of 6 preseason games.

  • Win

    KA should at least try at the beginning of 4th qtr by putting Lin back in. Maybe be Brook as well.

  • Alaingrvis

    Too many ill advised shots. This team takes far to many threes when it is unnecessary and odd looking layups.

  • james brown

    take out RJH in that line up and put some other player who hustle, they will be competitive.

  • Lefon Jang

    OK from now on 5 passes before you shoot…

  • 1mtoldman

    historically its been no lin no win here its no lin total embarassment.

  • 1mtoldman

    the nets bench players ie. non-starters took 22 3 point shots, made 2.

  • Briiick

    I believe almost any NBA player can knock down a 3 given an open position. The problem is this “motion offense” barely breaks a sweat of the opponent let along creates a good open position.

  • zxcvb

    I feel bad for the ticketholders. They didn’t even get an entertaining loss. Lin will at least make things fun and high scoring.

  • james brown

    yeah but this is a BAD Precedents!

    Preseason was nothing but regular games counts.

  • sport

    Lin x Lopez is the team whenever KA insist on his motion offense and not allow them to play PnR or post ups it hurts the team! You’d think KA would learn his lesson with the game 2 win but nope!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    To be fair, they do have enough shooters, but they aren’t starting + all their 3Point shooters are terrible defenders.

  • Alaingrvis

    We need to play less players. Play some players like lin heavy minutes.

  • 1mtoldman

    how bout 20 out of 22 misses for the non-starters. ouch.

  • DX

    KA has no confidence for saving this game.

  • Briiick

    Massaging pass doesn’t hurt.

  • Alaingrvis

    Either lin plays heavy minutes or we wait for these players develop. 2nd one will take a while

  • 1mtoldman

    yes someone here posted a 8 man tight rotation. that makes sense. most nba teams only play 8 to 9 guys serious minutes.

    you can’t do s.a. style here with the limited number of quality players.

  • james brown

    But if he’s experimenting, why not try to see what Jlin can provide on this scenario with the nets roster now?

  • sport

    We need to stop taking so many 3s, only Lin, Scola, Bog, Harris, Kilpatrick, Hamilton, and sometimes Lopez should be taking 3s!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lin is 28 bro and some of the young guys they have here do not have high potential.

  • Lefon Jang

    I’m here to watch Lin, not some d-leagues play garbage time.

  • Win

    That’s exactly the problem. Team can easily make a run and found themselves still in then game. No Coaches will give up the games at the beginning of 4th qtr…..

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no hugs for Bogs

  • YESYESYES

    Such depressed game. Although Lin has 60%FG and 50% 3pts with assists and 4 steals.

  • Yura

    They had lots of Bulls fans there. Loud fans!

  • FreetheMind

    Tough game to watch. Nets could not put a ball into the ocean. It would not matter if Lin played 48 mins and made every single shot. Nets need another player that can step up and take some pressure off Lin.

  • 1mtoldman

    my opinion and this is only an opinion has been and remains: lin will put up great stats and re-establish himself in the eyes of the non-lin fan as a quality nba starter.

    but this team will not be good.

  • Win

    Otherwise we can give up every single game in the beginning of 4th qtr. Smh.

  • Alaingrvis

    Also Lin taking a back seat on offense to some really bad players. He needs to take the ball. For a while ther Lin tried PNR and when the doubled he passed. I know he doesnt want to foure anything but we may need him to force and take this team to where they need to go.

  • Alaingrvis

    Jimmy butler and kobe and harden just take the ball and do what they do sometimes. Im afraid Lin will have to do that

  • David Kim

    i feel bad for the people who went to watch the game…pretty poor game…

  • Win

    Losing the game is not depressing. Watching KA give up the game so early is.

  • This was an ugly game overall. Here’s the highlights of JLin, and some lowlights of the team. 🙁
    Atkinson needs to somehow extract much better defensive effort from this team.

  • zxcvb

    It’s early, so he’s trying to set guys up. Also, Kenny doesn’t want to overplay Lin since it’s early.

    I admit Kenny was “right” in managing Lin’s minutes — the Bucks game showed that Lin isn’t it midseason form yet. That goes for most guys in the league, but especially Lin who plays HARD on both ends every night.

  • james brown

    seem will no longer develop here like Bennet, etc…RJH is just like a train without a destination. when he handles the ball, he’s looking immediately to shoot just like Bogs.CMC is waste right now just like whitehead (prefer Beech over him)..so many wasted slots for so little skills they have.

    of course, maybe after 4 years they might change into a more better players than today..LOL

  • DX

    To be fair, today’s loss is mainly on starters, beside Lin, all others played bad. 5-31 on 3s, that’s sucks.

  • james brown

    Kenny needs to change also his culture!

  • james brown

    agree! needs for him to man up his development too!

  • Win

    Yeah. Because KA is not even try to compete anymore once they were down by 20.

  • MEL LIN

    btw guys that black referee today doesn’t like Lin, the skinny and ugly one

  • Briiick

    KA needs to program the rookies before letting them play motion street ball. Disciplines must be enfoced like a reflex in practices.

  • sws94

    4 games is 6 nights is too many at the start of the season. Lin’s tough game was the 3rd in 4 nights.

  • grover chang

    I think half the crowd were bulls fans. So they seemed happy.

  • zxcvb

    Thanks for the team lowlights as well. Ha. From now one, Lin needs to be taking a lot more shots…even Brook looks helpless out there.

  • james brown

    just like Lin, haters need to see lin have a great stats and also winning games, if not then they will continue to say he’s nothing

  • zxcvb

    He also got banged up in the final preseason game and home opener.

  • james brown

    KA will not allow, evident by his words previously.

  • Yura

    lol :>

  • Win

    KA really need to stop this resting Brook, players development BS aside. He should put their best lineup out there and compete every single night. Isn’t this is what Brooklyn all about? If you want to develop a player do it in D-League. If a player need to rest just 3 days into the regular season then trade them!!!!!

  • Briiick

    I hope KA had gotten sick of the motion offense as he gave up early in this game.

  • cshot

    May need to develop the stsrters more instead of d league players

  • Win

    KA really need to stop this resting Brook, players development BS aside. He should put their best lineup out there and compete every single night. Isn’t this is what Brooklyn all about? If you want to develop a player do it in D-League. If a player need to rest just 3 days into the regular season then trade them!!!!!

  • james brown

    so will be the team if they keep on losing just like the 3rd quarters let down..Kenny will just give up and let 3rd stringers developed..Bad attitude as a team spirit!

  • Epie

    OMG 2:34 Lin needs to check his body. That doesn’t look good.

  • HVJoy

    Brook had 2 blocks in 22 min. PT!

  • kauaiblue

    what is going on?? nets gonna lose fans’ interest…

  • Briiick

    KA will get to the stage when he has nothing more important than a win.

  • Win

    Because they are not competing. They gave up the game at the end of 3rd to beginning of the 4th. No fans will like that…..

  • I am The Jason

    First, this team offense needs to run through Lin and Lopez. This motion offense needs to go. Having every players jacking up 3’s is killing this team. Shoot some 2’s. It still some points. This part of analytics I hate. You cannot have 15 quarterbacks. Lin pass the ball and most of the time is does not come back to him. Once he pass it to his teammate, they start an ill advise iso play. Bogs and Hollis are the main culprits. Second, defense non existence, When Lin is your best defender, something is wrong. Third, can we please get some screens and cuts. Kenny is calling this motion offense but no one is actually moving. They are just stand on the perimeter. The talent is there for this team to compete. The coaching needs to adjust to their skill sets and not try to make them something they are not ie Kyle Korver. Not every player was meant to shoot 3’s. Can we have some mid range game ,please.

  • kauaiblue

    that’s on the coach… he just gave up!

  • grover chang

    The No-tion offense critics are out again and I’m with you guys. I was so upbeat after game 2 where you saw a mix of the Brook-Lin PNR. IIRC they did not run this play. Where is that stat where it says Nets run 45% PNR? I like to know how much PNR Lin gets to run with Brook.

    Why is it a bad thing to run Brook-Lin PNR? You are putting your two best players at an advantage on offense at the same time. If neither of them scores then maybe you at least get the Bulls in foul trouble. The Bulls were aggressive on defense. If they were in foul trouble they might have to back off on defense.

  • Win

    That’s still doesn’t give you an excuse not to compete. The normal pattern is Lin and Brook will come back into the game around the 2 minutes mark of 3rd qtr.

  • Win

    Exactly!

  • guest

    During Halftime, coach Atkinson told Jeremy to get the other guys going. So instead of scoring, Jeremy kept passing the ball. COACH Atkinson…please let Jeremy play his game, especially when NOBODY else was doing anything.
    Unfortunately, Lin is their best player in all categories except for maybe the 3 with Harris and Bog, right there.
    Let Lin, drive to paint and dish out to Harris and Bog, with giving occasional PnR’s to Booker and Hamilton, and Post ups to Lopez. What more do we need than this besides defense?

  • Win

    KA really did said that to Lin?

  • kauaiblue

    wake up KA! JLin is your floor general… let him command!

  • Briiick

    Rookie HC likes to put their “system” above their players. I remember McHale used to do that too, asking Lin to make the simple pass, quite similar to this motion offense albeit in a different name.

  • grover chang

    “Not every player was meant to shoot 3’s.” Rick Fox said the same thing in the post game show. He was just shaking his head. Having guys who can’t shoot 3s just shoot 3s all day is bad basketball. 3 pt shots 5-31 at 16%. I don’t need to be an analytic expert to know that is not a good basketball decision.

  • Steppen03

    If this is MDA’s offense JLin7 would have 28+pt & 8ast. C’mon, KA – have to go PnR and Iso.

  • norah mackenzie

    i think that lin needs to decide what to do on the floor – he is there to win not to only listen to his coach. sometimes one has to be rough and tough and be selfish – the nets players can play but whether they were terrified of the bulls i don’t know

  • guest

    No, but Lin stopped taking shots in the 3rd quarter. Kenny doesn’t like when Lin has a shooting guard mentality, even if Lin is their best all-around scorer. He wants Lin to Pass, but when nobody is hitting their shots and he is on fire. Start setting him up, not the others.

  • james brown

    because they know Lin is an abiding players , but with the likes of Harden and Kobe, coaches clipped!

  • Alaingrvis

    how do you know?

  • Briiick

    He will when he has lost enough games.

  • Win

    I see. I don’t mind Lin take less shot, but he gotta be on the floor and be the general.

  • MEL LIN

    whitehead is not ready he is still a rookie but his nerves was so bad that he was dribbling himself out of bounce.

  • MEL LIN

    I hope one day KA will just let Lin be lin and play his game with brook. Hopefully not too late.

  • Win

    Again KA, if you wanna to develop a player, send them to D-League!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • guest

    sorry, i’m speculating based on how Lin changed his gameplay in the 3rd. Due to that it became a blowout because nobody else could score, so then he couldn’t even get back in the game to be the difference maker we know that he is.

  • james brown

    that will be BAD!

  • grover chang

    Someone else made a good point. If you want to develop guys then send them to the D-league. There is no crime in that. Whitehead needs more seasoning.

  • Win

    Lin only played 24 mins. Minutes wise KA is worst than Cliff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MEL LIN

    problem is they don’t have enough players due to injuries. Not sure if they can trade some players. I just need a big that can block and defend

  • james brown

    he tries to let almost all players night in and night out, even when they need to make a comeback.

  • guest

    Yes, he needs to be the general but KA needs to let him setup the play so he can get it back for a shot or something else. They needed to set up plays for him, not everyone else.

  • Win

    It will work if you have deep bench, all we have is a D-League bench.

  • MEL LIN

    rookie coach wants to please everyone

  • aras

    DUDE they got blown out

  • grover chang

    KA loves Lin. BS hated Lin. But somehow Lin plays the same. No PNR. Scoring a lot is frowned upon. Limited minutes. How did we get here?

  • james brown

    yeah, isaw how JLIn seems reluctant to shoot the ball and always trying to make the necessary pass or assist, always on the 3rd quarter?

  • grover chang

    He could’ve let him finish the third or start the fourth to see if there was a chance.

  • MEL LIN

    Jeremy won’t be too happy tonight.

  • Win

    There is no way KA should give up the game at the end of 3rd. He should still put Lin or even Brook back in around the 2 mins mark of the 3rd qtr.

  • MEL LIN

    I agree. Instead of putting a circus show of whitehead dribbling the ball out of bounce

  • guest

    I really think it was from Atkinson. Because if Atkinson would have given Lin the green light. He would have come out aggressive to score.

  • MEL LIN

    Next game against detroit is it homecourt or not?

  • james brown

    and that’s the problem there..players always think that even though they are not playing well, coach will give them still the chance , so Grit will wane because of complacency.

  • grover chang

    home wednesday. home friday vs hornets.

  • guest

    Well said. haha

  • Win

    Any NBA team can make a run and yes even the Nets. Therefore by giving up the game at the end of 3rd just make me sick. And I am sure a lot of fans will be too. I don’t mind the Nets are losing games as long as we put our best lineup out there and compete every night.

  • MEL LIN

    that bucks game was a waste could have won that one making it 2-2

  • MEL LIN

    ah thanks. they need to wake up and let Lin be the man.

  • james brown

    that’s a better way of seeing if they still have a chance to comeback, if not, give up and develop.

  • grover chang

    True. Human nature. If I’m rewarded the same for a good job vs a bad job, why try hard?

  • guest

    We need to get Carlos Boozer. At least he can pick n pop and scream real loud. Lin and Boozer had chemistry.

  • MEL LIN

    Problem with KA I heard was that he is stubborn like Lin. So guess what motion offense all the way

  • james brown

    too much LOve; too much hate???as they say too much of everything is also bad…

  • guest

    also rebound.

  • MEL LIN

    lol scream real loud yeah true

  • heart

    Stubbornness, inflexible, inexperience and rookie coaching mentality? Focus on developing instead of winning? Does not recognize talents? Keep doing the same thing but expecting different result? etc.

  • Win

    Why can we get MDA or even George Karl??? Why KA? Spurs style? please understand our bench is not nearly as good as Spurs. This is like TANKING FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God I am piss!!!!!!!!

  • guest

    vet minimum, Marks make it happen.

  • grover chang

    Best pushing from the back NBA player ever. LOL. I love Boozer. He had a great sense of humor. I think he is probably too old now and hasn’t played a whole season now.

  • Win

    Damn Cliff I miss you. Lol.

  • james brown

    and maybe , that’s their dis-agreement? they have 2 differing points of view on how to play the game!

  • MEL LIN

    I don’t miss him. MDA I do.

  • Win

    At least Cliff play Lin 40 mins…

  • guest

    LOL, yeah, he did push a lot of people in the back. Used to hate that stupid foul he did all the time.

  • grover chang

    acbc is a coach so I respect his opinion when he said Cliff was a bad coach. But if that is the case he is the closest thing to a normal coach Lin has had since MDA. sigh.

  • MEL LIN

    why can’t we get some good players.

  • Goodday

    are u kidding.. did u watch the games last year??

  • Win

    He was, but maybe is all because of the order from the front office or even MJ.

  • Goodday

    guest, why don’t u register for an account?

  • Win

    Every single one. I hate Cliff too as he always try to make KW looks good.

  • sws94

    I don’t agree with that. Cliff has his blind spots, but he’s an effective coach. Atkinson may turn out to be a good coach.

  • Win

    The only games I have missed was the Lakers year. I can’t stand BS at all. Oh yeah and, ball hog KB.

  • james brown

    when and how often?

  • Win

    I gotta give credit to Cliff’s defense. And when Cliff wanna win, he played Lin. So still a lot better than BS.

  • heart

    It was obvious to me since preseason. I had questioned KA’s PT minutes distribution and someone
    questioned my take sometime ago. Thus far, it’s getting clearer after each game that KA’s plan is to distribute equal PT among all players. So far Lin is the only one who can get 30+ only in games that Nets have a chance to win since he’s obviously is the best player on the team.

  • Win

    OT against King. Not that often. 🙂

  • Steppen03

    Good 14pt 1st half wasted! KA need to ride JL7 like freakin’ Sacretariet once a while and give him a chance to be a superstar. Lead by example. Lin7 himself have to take charge of the offense too in the 3rd – 0pt, zero 3pter attempted, got layups blocked – KA need to tell Lin to carry the team (or give him the chance instead of swinging around and bricks by others off night).

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Yeah, I also didn’t like Clifford at all, specially with the foolish decision of starting Hairston.

    I also do not like what I see fom Kenny so far….He threw the game in the 3rd quarter and did not even put Lin back in at the start of the fourth to see whether they had 1 last run in them when they were down by about 22.

  • grover chang

    Lin was a one year rental that became integral because of injuries. But I don’t recall Clifford promising anything that he didn’t fulfill. He said you will be the back up pg in a modern offense and he was. Never spoke badly and praised Lin’s defense repeatedly.

    Atkinson said he would let Lin play his brand of basketball. He forgot to add rarely.

  • tee

    lmao

  • james brown

    KA will play him more often, but the problem is that he is so fast on giving up games for teams development purposes!

  • Win

    That’s what I meant. Couldn’t agreed more. No way he should give up the game at he end of 3rd!!!!!!

  • sws94

    I have it. You’ll find the Nets on YES. And that’s all I need it for.

  • grover chang

    Hey Hornets are 2-1, where a lot of us said they would fall apart without LIn. Nets 1-3. Just saying.

  • CJSHYY

    Any comment from coach after today’s game?

  • james brown

    [Atkinson said he would let Lin play his brand of basketball. He forgot to add rarely]………….or “NOT YET”!!!

  • Win

    1-3 thanks to KA. We could have been 3-1 or 2-2.

  • Sundown

    He’s no longer part of the league.

  • MEL LIN

    we should be 2-2. Bucks game is winnable. Even a dumb person knows to take the easy ones and leave the harder ones later. Don’t have to be harvard grad to figure that out.

  • Win

    Don’t wanna hear it. It was so sick that he didn’t put Lin or even Brook back in around the 2 mins mark of 3rd qtr to see if we might steal this one.

  • webattorney

    KA thinks this is a D League. Lol

  • grover chang

    soo true

  • Brent Yen

    lol….

  • Sundown

    Gotta have someone on the bench.

  • webattorney

    At the same time, small consolation I will in all likelihood win a $5k bet that Nets will not make playoff.

  • CJSHYY

    Somehow KA’s mind is not ready to be a HC yet… his is still in developing players first… smh!

  • Win

    KA is like a rookie trying to do too damn much!!!!!!! We do have a D League team. If he continues to give up games at he end of 3rd qtr, Nets will be losing a lot of fans. Most of the fans don’t mind their team is losing game, but the absolutely hate their team or coach is not evening trying to compete.

  • CJSHYY
  • BobbyH

    1 bad game and all of sudden, blames come in wave at KA. Where were all the praises after game 2? Let the team play till year end and see what happens.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too.

  • Briiick

    I am afraid his coaching so far hasn’t elevated from D-league yet. He needs to learn fast or loses his job soon.

  • james brown

    Brooks obviously can’t play too much..booker needs to play more time. skil has to get ample opportunity to play with JLIN, bogs/harris needs to share until one learns to position themselves better; Hamilton ,scola needs to share brooks spared time.

    Ka needs to abandoned his defeatist attitude in lieu of his developmental mindset. He needs to change quickly from being and Assistant Coach to a full blown Head Coach who thinks winning first attitude!

  • james brown

    no blames but obvious critics on how he handles defeat!

  • Win

    He made an adjustment. That was good. Then he made a mistake by resting Brook which cost us game 3. And now he gave up the game around the end of 3 qtr which Lin was suppose to come in to the game.

  • webattorney

    I think he thinks every player can be developed like he did with Lin.

  • james brown

    then , what was your solution if there’s any?

  • heart

    Paraphrasing: KA said the injury of Vasquez & Foye does not have any affects (on the rotation)?or something like that according to my understanding… He also said that he will continue to play Whitehead, MC, etc. for development purpose…

  • Win

    Media talks. He has no clue…

  • Geoffrey

    Lin gets to spend his prime years mentoring Whitehead and Kilpatrick. Yay!

  • BobbyH

    A mistake or a political move, that we don’t know. Just look forward, don’t look back. Fall and get back and move on.

  • Briiick

    He regressed back to the soft motion offense.

  • Vincent

    what kenny atkinson doesnt understand is that a guy like lin who can score points in such bursts will GIVE his teammates much needed energy… so Kenny should be encouraging lin to continue to score when he can.. lin has great judgement and knows when to pass when he is in scoring mode as well

  • Win

    Omg. I am having a headache now….

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    to be fair, I was always on a “wait-mode’ with Kenny, so I’ve never been praising him too highly..I didn’t like his use of preseason and didn’t like the way they were dealing with him even then.

  • james brown

    No..

    slow and always pop instead of rolling..so many nets players doing that already, except the HOWL!.

  • I am The Jason

    This team has been playing like this since preseason. Game 2 was an anomaly because they have not played like that since. Resting Lopez was head scratching against the Bucks. Giving all the players the green light to shoot 3’s is wrong. There offense is basically standing on the perimeter jacking up 3’s. I’m not even going to talk about the defense.

  • MEL LIN

    yeah that’s part of the deal. Not sure if Lin knew about this. He knew that his team is one of the weakest but at the same time he took that chance to lead his own team due to discrimination.

  • Win

    As a fan, we just wanna see our team compete night in and night out. Not resting their franchise player in the 3rd game of the season. He can play Brook less. But not sitting out.

  • BobbyH

    All great minds have controversial moves that draw heavy critics. I am not saying KA is that yet. I will wait until how the trade deadline unfold.

  • webattorney

    They played the same way, except good teams will not allow Nets to come back from 15 points deficit. Against Detroit, they will probably lose by 10 points.

  • james brown

    they almost LOVE standing waiting for their 3’s!!!LOL

  • heart

    Exactly! He seems to always take Lin out when he’s about to get hot. And he keeps on insisting Lin passing the ball instead of allowing him to score instinctively.

  • Vincent

    im still wondering how in the world the nets beat the pacers… oh i remember now coach atkinson allowed lin to be lin playing him in PNR all night.. I just dont understand when any coach besides mda will let lin play his game..

  • MEL LIN

    I just want to say it is not easy to be a Lin fan. Things don’t go his way most of the time. + (

  • Vincent

    if kA coached OKC, westbrook would be playing maybe 5 minutes each game

  • james brown

    LOL

  • CJSHYY

    Game 2 it’s Lin’s game not KA’s Motion but KA wants to continue his Motion system that’s why…..

  • aras

    Thank you finally someone.

  • Win

    Haha.. And then Westbrook will get him fired.

  • Win

    And Lin played 30+ mins.

  • MEL LIN

    too much motion offense that whitehead lost the ball.

  • webattorney

    Only thing I wanted to see in this type of game is to see Lin go off for 40. I can’t even see that with Nets.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Well, at least, Lin was able to raise his FG% to 42% and his 3Point to 33%…average efficiency.

  • Briiick

    Rookie coach wants to win HIS way. Hope he can shake it off with enough loses.

  • Win

    Tbh, I have been watching NBA for more than 15 years and I can’t recall any coach had give up the game at the end of 3rd when they were down by 20 points. So whatever.

  • MEL LIN

    what bugs me is lin’s FT.

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly. So if we can’t win then use the time to develop rookie…??? I don’t like it. His motion system is not working.

  • webattorney

    He hardly can make 2 FTs in a row. Inexcusable. Come on Lin. You need to raise FT shooting to 85%.

  • aras

    worst part about his game…they were terrible in charlotte aswell if i remember

  • james brown

    In an interview and a video, Jeremy Lin tells Abe Schwadron of SLAM about just good it feels to be the Nets starting point guard.

    “To have this role, I’m so excited I can’t even really explain
    just how happy I am. There’s days where after we work out or play pickup
    or whatever, I’m just like, Man, it feels natural. I’m a leader. I’m a
    starting point guard. I run the show—and that’s something I’ve done my
    whole life on the court. So the last few years playing in a backup
    position, to me, that’s not who I was created to be as a player, that’s
    not natural. I feel like I wanna be the guy in the front. I wanna be the
    guy leading the charge, and I feel that here.”

  • MEL LIN

    when he was with knicks it was automatic.

  • Vincent

    well he had 80% which should be his absolute minimum

  • heart

    I missed heard the injury part. Sorry. But the other part is still true. He will continue to play the rookies to develop them.

  • Briiick

    Give KA a few more games/loses to try his system. I still think he is a smart man.

  • Vincent

    when he was with the knicks he got to the lin reapetedly because their offense allowed lin to wreak havoc in the paint.. here he hardly drives

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think he’s a smart coach at all. Nice & good person indeed.

  • james brown

    thinking too much while shooting FT? KA’s making Jeremy think much and not lets loose because of other players development

  • MEL LIN

    not sure if you guys remember he would smirk before he shoots when he was with the lakers like he is trying to relax.

  • Vincent

    i will give kenny 10 games before i full make my judgement as him as a coach. he has made numerous coaching errors, but he is a rookie and can learn from his mistakes.. however, when is enough enough.. only time will tell now

  • webattorney

    Lin and Brook not given a chance to work together.

  • Win

    Well, is not like we have any other choices.

  • Vincent

    haha good point

  • MEL LIN

    I just have a feeling that they will be shopping brook.

  • Win

    Same here. Which I will think it will be another mistake.

  • james brown

    right now, he has to learn to “Never to give up easily”!

  • Win

    So true…

  • Dongmen

    Motion is fine. However, nets dont have that kind of personnel. Hope KA realize that and adjust, the sooner the better.

  • Vincent

    lol the only game they won was when they played together.. i dont understand why they dont use them together more.. i thought kenny was known to be a pick and roll guru where is that at? lin had 20 and 9 which is very good..

  • james brown

    yeah if and when they don’t trade lopez for a true center also.

  • Vincent

    yes.. he did this the entire pre season…

  • MEL LIN

    why? if you watch Yes network promo it’s all about Lin rarely brook.

  • spiderman

    If true, KA needs to quickly decide whether he wants to be a developmental coach or head coach. Head coaches don’t sacrifice wins for “development”.

  • CJSHYY

    I think they probably want to trade Brook bc he’s not fit into their Motion system that’s why …..

  • Vincent

    idk hopefull kenny was just going by trial and error again.. maybe he thought the motion offense would work.. ive heard of 3rd times a charm, but never 8th times a charm…

  • MEL LIN

    I suspect they will try to get more motion players to make more motion and more motion…… and without a center blocking the basket. =)

  • Vincent

    its crazy tho.. because brook and lin were wreaking havoc on the pacers who are a very good team.. arguably better than the bulls …

  • james brown

    KA played them together but in a “motion Offense” settings, though i can see Jlin’s trying his best for a PnR with lopez but Brooks almost always POP not roll on some occassions.

  • MEL LIN

    I am glad there’s a site like Jlinportal for us to vent our frustrations.

  • CJSHYY

    I know but this coach didn’t like that… he wants his own Motion system…..smh!

  • Vincent

    also rhj should not be starting.. maybe put foye at the 2 and bog at the 3

  • Vincent

    lol yeah cuz if we spam the nets facebook page, the nets fans will hate lin and his fans just like houston lol

  • MEL LIN

    why do you think it’s not happening there now? lol

  • james brown

    worse defense possible with no definite rebounder. most of Nets players doesn’t know how to boxed out opponents during rebounds

  • MEL LIN

    they need some quality players one or two good ones.

  • Vincent

    yeah lol we have all learned from being on the rockets and then the lakers.. i think by the time lin was on the hornets most of his fans stopped venting on facebook haha which is why charlotte loved him

  • james brown

    couldn’t agree more!

  • Vincent

    could have really used crabbe or tyler

  • Dorothy

    I think I finally understand why NBA players mostly only care about their own stats because they have no control what kind of team, coach, teammates they will have. The best way to secure their career is have good stats. Our poor boy, always has something/somebody goes against him.

  • MEL LIN

    yep just like the buck’s game

  • TTNN

    One thing I’m happy is that more and more people feel the same way as me now, I have been wondering why people say RHJ is good at defense since pre-season. Good that I’m not that wrong. LOL

  • Vincent

    i would love to get trevor ariza.. can knock down 3’s and plays awesome defense basically hes a poor mans kawhi leonard

  • Vincent

    butler destroyed rhj tonight

  • james brown

    hype!

  • Win

    I don’t hate any players cuz is not like star players wanna play for the Nets. I am also ok with motion offense as it is only the 4th game into the season so they might improve. The only only problem I have with KA is why he give up the game so early? And why he rest Brook, you can play him like 10-15 mins and let him do some damage from his post up game and change the tempo a little bit if needed to.

  • heart

    I spoke up since preseason.

  • TTNN

    not just tonight though…..

  • TTNN

    shake hands

  • Vincent

    a guy like spencer hawes would actually work well in the motion offense

  • TTNN

    not really, he is super slow

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    That’s not going to happen, specially when they’ve made questionable decision that can be perceived as them already tanking the season.

    RHJ will remain the starter since they aren’t prioritizing winning games and it makes sens to let RHJ play if you don’t care about winning games at the moment…..No team that wants to win every games, rest their key player like Lopez.

  • Vincent

    i know lol im saying tonight he got especially destroyed

  • MEL LIN

    yes. but not overpay them

  • james brown

    i also can see trevor as the right ingredient for nets success

  • Vincent

    yes, but he can knock down 3’s. he had good chem with lin

  • james brown

    not that paycheck. that money will give the 2 a BIG EGO!

  • TTNN

    and he could not finish better than Lopez

  • Briiick

    The NBA trend now is to have a fast rebound/defense center, and Brook is not.

  • Vincent

    man having trevor boker and lopez on the floor is not a recipe for successs in the motion offense.. the only reason why it worked against the pacers is because KA played lin style basketball and let lin run PNR with both of them… booker is not gonna make 3’s and lopez will make maybe a few

  • MEL LIN

    I will take hawes over bennett super slow and useless number one pick

  • Vincent

    your right, but in this offense he would be better

  • TTNN

    uh, his 3s is not as good as Hamilton, and he could not finish as good as Lopez, and it is disaster if he put the ball on the floor, only good is he could pass.

  • james brown

    so whats the motivation for losing then?

  • guest

    I don’t think RHJ was a name Lin gave either as, “surprising a lot of people this season,” like Kilpatrick. And I was really surprised he didn’t mention RHJ.

  • MEL LIN

    as evidence by booker shooting 3’s today miss after miss.

  • HY C

    I’m more worried about JLin being stepped on by his own teammate than this loss or KA’s coaching. Does anyone know if he is OK?

  • TTNN

    he is bad in P&R defense, pretty much what you don’t like Lopez, he will be the same, what you likes about Lopez, he doesn’t have it

  • heart

    Isn’t this goes against what he preaches in preseason–Players dictate the system. Now it seems like the reverse.

  • Vincent

    as evidence since the PRESEASON lol.. and i dont mind that at all lol.. but kenny needs to realize his personnel and make adjustments.. he already did vs the pacers, but it seems he has too much pride in his offense and wants to win his way

  • james brown

    booker is tailored in a JLIN brand of play, not motion offense system

  • MEL LIN

    this is sad that we can only talk about players like hawes = (

  • grover chang

    Someone should stop Lin mad. He keeps posting criticism about Lin on Nets daily

  • Vincent

    booker and lin PNR is awesome man.. trevor looked like a super star playing with lin

  • guest

    The whole team looked more comfortable letting Lin play PnR than the Motion-Offense. People think its been a mixture of both, but I think PnR, high screens, and Lopez post-ups have been there best offense scheme. Even the other players seem to know where to be and how to play.

  • TTNN

    IC, I missed tonight’s game, only listen in, have not watch it yet. I will need to collect some courage to watch it, LOL, need some mental preparation before I start to watch it.

  • MEL LIN

    correct stubborn like Lin.

  • james brown

    can’t you raise a bit higher on your players selection..LOL!

  • heart

    Said same thing in preseason– ‘KA gives up easily’.

  • TTNN

    I still think when Foye is healthy, he will play with Lin, you need that second ball handler on the floor with Lin so team could not just double him straight out. So far he is the best ball handler on the team…..

  • MEL LIN

    he is fine. he got good abs

  • james brown

    his options i guess

  • Vincent

    if kenny wants his team to shoot 3’s what better way than having lin play high pnr? lin either scores, passes to the big man, or if the paint gets clogged, lin can find the open man for 3.. its simple as that.. but ive said this before just passing the ball around the perimeter without penetration will not get a man open for 3.. plus it takes up so much time off the shot clock that they always chuck up a desperate 3

  • MEL LIN

    yeah i agree. hawes come on.

  • Vincent

    correction*

  • Vincent

    lol im just frustrated man, but hawes and lin played wel together in charlotte

  • MEL LIN

    KA needs to review the film against Pacers and see what was working for the team.

  • Vincent

    hahaha.. hawes is way better than half the nets roster

  • james brown

    esp Harris who needs time to better position himself for a catch and shoot 3..with motion, Harris has no good form to shoot

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    you guys keep saying play the PNR, play the PNR. but who is a capable PNR Big on the team? not Lopez that’s for sure

  • grover chang

    I’m crying a little inside for Lin. I don’t think things are going as imagined. There is no show for him to take charge of.

  • Vincent

    lopez is fine, they did it against the pacers.. what about booker.. lin makes booker look like a super star

  • blueCypher

    Ya. Keep it simple. Either high pnr with lin or dump it in to lopez

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lopez played post up against Big Al on the Pacers. there’s no more Big Al’s for Lopez to beat up on

  • ViNuyork

    thanks we switch our Monday tickets for Friday game with the hornets…hopefully, they would do better

  • MEL LIN

    true. that’s what makes it sad.

  • blueCypher

    When is foye coming back. He gives this team an essential need

  • james brown

    pls, just watch the highlights….LOL!

  • Vincent

    so lopez just magically averaged 20 points the last couple seasons?

  • james brown

    NBA teams can easily beat the NETS by just preparing to guard JLIN and pray that KA use the motion offense still..LOL!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    if losing all those years is what you’re aiming for..

  • Epie

    Looks like it was on the upper chest. Looked really bad.

  • Vincent

    lol.. please.. lopez was and still is the only bright spot on the nets aside from lin.. they should start using their assets instead of hiding them

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the game has evolved. his slow low post game is extinct. he doesn’t fit this offense at all

  • Vincent

    smh.. everyone in the starting lineup doesnt fit this offense except lin.. look at our roster manb we have booker rhj and lopez none of which can shoot 3’s so why not play to our teams strengths..

  • BobbyH

    Game 1 and game 4 are so alike except that bench brought back game 1 in Q4. KA seemed gave up to let the rookie developed (which I don’t agree. I would rather the starting lineup developed more time together).

    Game 4 the game already semi-gone in 3Q where 20+ deficit is too much. Plus the cold shooting across the board. 3Q late when whitehead took over, suddenly everyone wanted to play street balls.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m telling you they can’t play the PNR without a capable pnr big

  • grover chang

    His low post game is effective if he gets it low. You want shots at the rim. When he gets it high and away from the rim is when defenses are able to collapse on him.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no doubt he’s got a nice low post game but people are complaining about Kenny not running the PNR enough which requires Lopez to be good at which he isn’t

  • heart

    Bingo! Teams are doing just that! KA is not adjusting to protect Lin. He’s trying to develop his rookies via his ‘motion offense’ system at the expense of Lin and Lopez, IMO.

  • Vincent

    did u not hear me.. booker can

  • blueCypher

    They are catching detroit on the 2nd game of a back to back.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Booker is a step up from Lopez but still not very good. you wouldn’t want to run that all day. and what’s up with the attitude?

  • Vincent

    i dont have an attitude.. your just not listening, but we can agree to disagree dont want to argue anymore

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    “lol”, “smh”.. you say these yet your reply to my statement that the team doesn’t have a capable pnr big was “Lopez was and stil the only bright spot”… and i haven’t even given you fit for that

  • Briiick

    Agreed. KA is not putting much effort in developing PnR offense centered at Lin, taking it as a given and only using it to stop a losing streak caused by the motion offense. I bet in the next game there will be more PnR with Lin.

  • grover chang

    Well. I guess they could rest Lin. He has logged the most minutes on the team after four games. J/K

  • BobbyH

    Not this winnable game. If Lin needs rest, maybe next B2B.

    Edit: Take it back. Next B2B is against Knicks. He must play.

  • MEL LIN

    No rest. He should play. He is the star player- he should be able to handle it.

  • Vincent

    relax.. who else on the team is better than lopez aside from lin?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    so you’re saying run Lopez low post game? if so, that doesn’t fit the Net’s offensive scheme at all

  • Ace Pagoda

    I quit watching the game when it looked like JLin was going to sit. The game was almost too horrible to watch. But I did watch 3+ quarters and while it was terrible and KA is catching a lot of flack for “giving up” too soon I think he made a conscious decision to know that BKN was not going to win against Chicago- at least not this time around. Since I decided to give it 20 games and then re-evaluate I find myself enjoying the beginning of Jin’s career in BKN much more. What did we expect? Did we really think JLin was going to make BKN 4-0 out of the gate with this team? With a new and rookie coach? With almost all new players? With a handicapped roster? Be real folks. Painful though it may seem, enjoy the journey. There have already been ups and downs and it is only 4 games! Chicago is a tough, veteran team with a real beast in D. Wade and Jimmy Butler. They are a deep team. BKN did not match up at all except with JLin. I am getting the feeling that KA, rookie coach though he is, will do a good job with what he has. He is trying to feel what he has. He is giving himself some games to find out the character and talent of this team. He knows only JLin. For as bad as Whiteside looked most of the times there were a few flashes of good play. I thought he did a decent job on defense on staying in front of his man. He is fast and agile and may prove to be a defensive stopper. He was certainly no worse than Vasquez. RHL though, he is pretty rough. He has no real game. It is hard to see why BKN drafted him w/o any offensive skills. Harris had his moments. I think BKN will be an interesting team to watch develop and I trust enough in Jin’s judgment enough to believe that he sees something positive developing.

  • Vincent

    no we should bench lin and lopez the entire game.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    lol. back to square one. thanks for the circling argument though

  • Vincent

    likewise

  • Briiick

    Well said. As long as Lin is starting there is hope.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    so again, i ask how are the Nets gonna run keep running PNR all game long when Lopez isn’t a good PNR big? i’m still waiting for your solution to this..

  • Steppen03

    NOW, overpaying Crabbe & Tyler Johnson got my APRROVAL!!!

  • webattorney

    I have no problem with your attitude; in fact, it’s laudable, and I agree. However, I did not agree with some who predicted FOR SURE that Nets would make the playoff. Let me repeat, I have no problem with people who hope and think it might be possible for Nets to make the playoff, but I do think it’s a reach when some people say Nets will make the playoff FOR SURE as if making playoff with a new team with non-super star teammates is an easy thing to do. This Nets team would have done a heck of job if it can win 30 games this season IMO. This is why I made my $5K bet with a poster who was CERTAIN that Nets would make the playoff this season. Had he merely said he hoped that Nets would make the playoff, or that there was a possibility that Nets would make the playoff, I would not have made the bet.

  • Steppen03

    Will NEVER doubt Marks/KA – They trusted JLin7 afterall. And they’re smart enough to go after Crabbe & Johnson.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Yup and this is my problem here…It’s easier to guard Lin when you have 2 guys on the floor who can’t shoot in RHJ/Booker.

  • webattorney

    In other words, KA;s goal this season is to develop players and gel his team instead of throwing everything to try to make the playoff. I think his approach is Nets will play his way, and if Nets happen to win, that’s fine. If not, that’s fine also. I think realistically, KA will try to make a playoff run next year after several trades and gelling.

  • Vincent

    lol do u want to keep going on and on about this.. lopez is a proven pnr big.. he played it with lin against indiana.. booker did as well against pacers and bucks.. lin made booker look awesome those two games.. where was that tonight. now u answer my question how the heck are we supposed to play motion offense with booker, lopez and rhj on the floor at the same time?

  • webattorney

    Are they playing well now? Don’t really follow NBA.

  • webattorney

    IMO RHL and Bennett are pretty bad and will not even do all that well in D League.

  • sport

    I think you mean “lose” his way because he hasn’t won a single game with his motion offense! The only win was through Lin PnR and Lopez’s post ups! Yet he still insist on going away from their strengths!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    well you still don’t get it so i’ll have to hammer it into you, again. lol. in the Pacers game, Lopez didn’t exactly play pnr. he played mostly POST UP against Big Al (not exactly a great defender). the Nets won’t be facing a sad defending big man like him for a while. and again, you wouldn’t want to play PNR with Booker all game long because he’s just a mediocre pnr big. right now, i have no issue with Kenny because he doesn’t exactly have the personnel to run a fast pace offense

  • I was one of the supporters of going after Crabbe and especially Tyler Johnson back in the summer. It’s still very early in the season, but so far both guys have been performing better than their prior season (which also has been an improvement over their first and second season, respectively).

    They would be a huge improvement over Kilpatrick, who would be taking over Whitehead’s role instead. If the Nets had Crabbe at SG and Johnson off the bench, they still lose tonight given how weak they are inside, but I believe they would have easily won against the Bucks and perhaps stolen the first game in Boston. Perimeter defense would much less of an issue.

  • Vincent

    ok were done here you just ignored everythin i just said.

  • webattorney

    Ha, ha. I am trying to be respectful. Or in other words, Nets can try to play like Hawks or Spurs, but they ain’t Hawks or Spurs. At best, they will be a poor imitation as the team is constructed right now.

  • Grace

    Have a stiff drink first.

  • sport

    No way Booker can shoot inside and play PnR with Lin. Did you forget his amazing dunks in game 2? Or how he jumped and intercepted that alley opp that was going to happen if he didnt? RHJ is the one who needs to sit on the bench.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’m sorry but if you think Lopez is a proven pnr big, then i don’t know what else to say…

  • Ace Pagoda

    With the personnel KA has I don’t think he has any choice but to develop what he has and try to make them better over the season. Who knows, maybe if he is good enough at it they will start to win games later on. After all, he does have JLin as the catalyst. If BKN had gotten Johnson from Miami or Crabbe from Portland we would be looking at a different situation but given that BKN is an entirely new team it still would have taken time to develop though the chances of success would have been greater and faster. The Nets have cap room, they can sign other players, the right players. At the All Star break is when other teams are going to reassess their personnel, their chances, their cap space and the bottom tier teams with some good players will think about the next draft. If BKN is smart as others say Marks is then there is a long way to go. As long as JLin is there great things can happen and it will be interesting to see how this story develops. To go into depth of despair at this early stage only ruins the journey.

  • webattorney

    Uhh . . . some did think Nets would be 4-0. Or at least 2-2. I personally think Nets did not fare too badly if they can go 5 wins and 15 losses in first 20 games.

  • sport

    If that’s the case how come Pacers had zero answer for him and Lopez posted 25 points and was unstoppable when Atkinson went to him frequently in game 2. All these loses happened when KA went away from Lin and Lopez’s PnR and Post plays!

  • psalm234

    I agree.

    It is important to have the right expectations. Bulls is a more mature team in age and Fred Hoiberg was hired as a coach a year ago so he had a head-start to install his system for the Bulls. Even then the Bulls had a disappointing 2015-16 season due to adjustment, Noah not fitting in, DRose’s injury, etc.

    The addition of DWade and Rondo as vets can only help them to be a much improved team. I was surprised to see how well they execute, hit every open shots that they deflated the Nets team.

    I hope the 30-pt blowout serves as a wake-up call to the Nets that they really need to get serious with defense if they want to compete this season. I hope they show clips on how open those 3pt shooters and lanes to the rim. That’s the only way the young Nets would realize the urgency of playing team defense. Coach KA needs to yell more like Pop to the experienced Spurs when they blow defensive assignments.

    But I do expect at least the first 10 seasons to be ugly and a lot of ups and downs.
    The Pacers game was the nice surprise but there would be games like tonight when the Nets’ lack of defense is thoroughly exposed. They tried to fight back but they couldn’t get a stop at all. It was quite ugly when defense is missing.

  • sport

    Lopez and Boozer can both play the PnR. It’s KA who doesn’t want to play the PnR or have post plays!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    there’s a difference between PNR and simply POSTING UP. in the Pacers game Lopez mostly played post up against a very poor defender (Big Al). how many teams will the Nets face with that kind of interior defense?

  • webattorney

    Psalm, Nets were also down after 3rd quarter against Pacers. If they are to win more, they have to break out of this cycle of falling behind every game. First game against Celtics was close mainly because Celtics just took it easy and played dumb when they had a big lead in 4th. Actually, Nets could be 0-4 instead of 1-3, so it’s not too bad.

  • Ace Pagoda

    I was one of the early optimists who was hoping for “Linsanity” 2. But that “hope” has passed now that we can see how raw the personnel is. Since we are all JLin fans here and believe he is a special talent we can enjoy the unfolding story over the course of the season and just maybe we will get a pleasant surprise.

  • norah mackenzie

    if he wanted to “develop” the players and not win then why on earth are we wasting our time? ( speaking for myself ) – he had pre season games to see which players are good to play – he had the pacers and the bucks and the celtics and now the bulls – wtf is he doing? if i can see who are a good solid group with zero experience then why can’t kenny see that? do all the players need to be motivated every single game because from what i saw only lin was playing his heart out. wtf happened to the rest of the team? who played so well against the bucks and the pacers – did they fall asleep ?

  • Ace Pagoda

    BKN does not have near the talent as ATL or SAS. But they do utilize a similar system so maybe the system isn’t so bad with better people. Looks like maybe Dwight Howard has found a home in ATL.

  • sport

    Al barely had any minutes in the Pacers game he was playing backup. Pacers went triple team on Lopez and they still couldn’t guard him. That’s why Lin had so much space to shoot mid range jumpers. Bulls also couldn’t guard Lopez in this game yet coach limited his minutes again. PnR or Posting Up are both the main reason Nets won game 2. You want your best players to score 20+ points to win. Resting Lopez and barely playing him with Lin when they clicked in game 2 just doesn’t make sense.

  • Briiick

    The HC needs to hold the players responsible in defense, rewarding good defender with more PT and play sets, punishing the bad player with less PT. Talking doesn’t work for defense.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Maybe those who were not motivated will not be in BKN next month. With such raw personnel what choice does he have but to “develop” them?

  • sport

    Unlike Nets, ATL and SAS use mainly PnR offense. Motion offense is just a small part of their style. What Kenny Atkinson is trying to due is just motion offense completely without screens, PnR, cutting players which means no offense at all. It just doesn’t work like that.

  • Ace Pagoda

    And will NEVER doubt Jin’s decision to go with KA and Marks. Works both ways so should work out over time.

  • psalm234

    true, loose defense has been the recurring weakness in the past 4 games. I don’t know why they lost focus in the 3rd quarter and why it happened throughout the game today.

    The lack of focus on defense was just hidden behind the strong 4th quarter run. With this blowout, the Nets would have to dig deep and accept they need to fix it very soon if they don’t want this to happen again.

    Let’s hope the whole team realizes that. Otherwise we could have 20 ugly games, not just 10 ugly ones

  • webattorney

    I agree 100%. Just saying thinking Nets would make playoff this season is not something I would bet on. I am not at all in despair because I expected 0-4 start. I am impressed that Nets won one game out of 4 games! Highly impressed. I repeat, I am not sad or in despair.

  • webattorney

    Rockets should have passed to Dwight more. Too Harden-centric. Dwight never had a chance.

  • psalm234

    correct .. Coach KA definitely needs to keep them accountable on defense.
    That’s the only way it will work. I’m curious how he will get the message across

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lopez was able to dominate Big Al early on and so the Pacers had to double team him which (as you’ve pointed out) freed up the shooters. but that was just against the Pacers and especially against Big Al. i didn’t see him dominate the Bulls at all. he was awful early on against Robin. he got going a bit later on but the game was already over at the half

  • webattorney

    Now that you mention it, you are right. It’s not even the same system. Lol KA’s system is a Communist version of the same system.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Agreed. That is a job for the front office. But I think it is way to early for teams to think about trading their players until they have a chance to see what they have. I think BKN pretty much knows what it has, who they would trade. But who is available at this point?

  • webattorney

    I am already pleasantly surprised that Nets won 1 out of 4 games. I expect Nets to win 5 or less games in first 20 games not because I am pessimistic but because that’s the way I see it.

  • Steppen03

    Theyre not very good but they’re not very bad. Even the Hornets last season have losses like this. Pretty much most teams will have losses like this. Again, I don’t judge them by couple ugly games… Who can ?? It’s a NEW team, NEW coach, NEW system… But I still believe they can go 5-5 for first 10 games, 10-10 for first 20. At worst. JLin7 NEED to be more in Control and ball dominant.

  • Briiick

    I remember people used to criticize McHale’s offense similar to that. Maybe over-simplification is the common mistake rookie coaches tend to make.

  • Ace Pagoda

    It has always been hard for me to see how professional athletes at this highest level of basketball could not be motivated to give their best. How else can they expect to stay at this level and improve their lot in life. No, I think it has to be something else, like fear of failure or something like that

  • stam

    I missed the game but it looks like Lin’s shooting improved again and he got 4 STEALS. The team may not have won but it sounds like KA was responsible for that based on the comments.

  • webattorney

    Not now. Later when opportunities come up. And after this year. Like I said, this season is not the one where they will or can make a playoff run.

  • heart

    It’s a developmental year. It’s not just one or two game evaluations. KA said eventually he wants them to “close” games if I heard correctly @mark 2:51. Also, @ 3:21, he does not think w/ Vasquez & Foye being out has any effects on “changing things up”???
    https://soundcloud.com/netsdailysounds/kenny-atkinson-bulls

  • webattorney

    I don’t judge; I just think it’s more likely Nets will not win more than 30 games. Am I certain? No. Would I make a bet on it? Maybe. But I will certainly be willing to bet big money that Nets will not make playoff this year. In other words, I keep my mind open and observe, and have my beliefs of what this team can most likely achieve.

  • webattorney

    One continuing trend is that Nets fell behind after 3 quarters by 10 or more points in all 4 games; that’s something they have to avoid if they want to win more games. I guess when others saw Nets grit etc in trying to rally, I saw how easily Nets fell behind after 3 quarters and put themselves in a nasty position of having to rally like hel*.

    For once, I would like to see Nets with a lead after 3 quarters and see if they can hold onto the lead.

  • Steppen03

    I would bet against you. I have 110% faith that JLin7’s Nets will make the playoffs – not as 8th seed but 6th-7th at the least. Its ONLY 4 games and they have been close for 3 games. So, YEAH! Hehe… I’ve said it before the season – JL7 can carry any team to the playoff. Bank it.

  • webattorney

    I do wonder how Lin would have fared with A. Davis in Pelicans though. Towns guy in MN and A. Davis in Pelicans — I knew they would be stars immediately. I want Lin to play with at least a very talented star. I consider Brook a limited NEAR star.

  • Steppen03

    Believe it! JLin will carry this team to playoff 6th-7th. Developing players for a playoff run NOT just for trading (there’s no value there). There’s only value IF the players get into playoffs.

  • webattorney

    Bucks and Pacers were a level below Bulls IMO. I don’t think Bucks would make playoff. Pacers also might not make playoff. Bulls and Detroit will make playoff.

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah i know but giving up against any team sd be a big no no

  • Geoffrey

    if Nets ever go down by 20 again going into the 4th quarter, one can expect more player development substitutions by the head coach.

  • CJSHYY

    From Lin…

    “Consistently, we were out-competed,’’ said Jeremy Lin, who had 14 points. “We didn’t have that normal pop, that normal explosiveness, that hunger we normally have on the defensive end. Actually, just in general we didn’t have that normal spirit or energy we play with. … Everybody came out flat.

    “Honestly, if we don’t come out with energy you could have the best players in the world and it won’t matter. If you don’t play hard in this league, you’ll get embarrassed every night.”

  • webattorney

    Since I already made a $5K bet with another poster, I will extend $1K bet offer to you. You can make a check available to J Lin Foundation. Lol I will give you 8th seed.

  • webattorney

    KA gave up against Celtics and Bulls. Right or wrong moves but he did. It was purely luck that the bench started hitting shots and Celtics forgot to take them seriously during the winding minutes.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Funny I was thinking of that earlier. He would have been with Davis and NOLA certainly has a better roster. Asik is there but so is Jrue Holiday who they signed for big money so JLin did not have a place there. However Holiday is injured now but we did not know that then. This is the kind of roster of vets and talent that JLin could have made better than they are. He would fit very well in Gentry’s system. Gentry of course was a protege of MDA and would have loved a free wheeler PG like JLin. I wonder if maybe the fit of an Asian in NOLA was not a good fit and part of the consideration. In the end though I think JLin just wanted to be with KA and build something in NY.

  • webattorney

    The way I see Eastern Conf, I think Bucks will not make playoff and Pacers will be fighting for 8th spot.

  • webattorney

    Too tired from playing catch-up in all 4 games, or coming close to winning against Bucks but falling short?

  • Ace Pagoda

    Problem is if a player fails to play defense who is there to replace him? BKN just thin on talent. How can you not be motivated to go all out when you are fighting for your professional life?

  • webattorney

    Bingo.

  • hchao

    KA said in last game’s post-game press that their focus at the moment is still experiemnting with different combinations and let their young guys develop & gain more experience. I think he will only let Lin play more P&R for the game he wants to win.

  • sport

    Actually this game alone is enough for coach to reconsider his starters and go back to what “worked” (PnR and Post ups). I’m pretty sure we all agree Kilpatrick or Harris should get a chance to start over RHJ. RHJ’s had his fair share of chances to start and he blew it every time. He hasn’t had 1 bright spot in the games (including preseason). Even Vasquez had that hot hand 3 pointer stint before he was injured to help us win game 2. RHJ just needs to go to the bench.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Chicago looked awfully good, better than I thought they would be with Wade, Butler and Rondo. But I think the big piece for them was Robin Lope to stabilize the center! Like you said, Noah did not fit in and actually neither did Rose IMO. This is another case of a coach wanting to install a system with the wrong personnel. I thought Chicago was an ideal place for JLine because of Hoiberg’s desire to push the ball up the floor and attack, something Rose did not really do. I look for the first 20 games to be ugly, lots of ups and downs, then some personnel changes. If KA is going to play Lopez at the perimeter and have him shoot 3’s then they might as well trade him. JLin played good D with 4 steals. He was the only Net to look like an NBA player.

  • kittyhead

    Feel like Lin is quite mad.@@

  • KHuang

    Stopping Lin has not worked successfully.

    Stopping RHJ and Booker and Whitehead HAS worked.

  • sport

    Can Nets still trade players or waive them? If so I hope he waves the right personnel like Anthony Bennett. If coach wants to develop players why not give Chris McCullough more minutes? We are in need of a great PF to back up Lopez who seems to be on minutes restriction every game.

  • KHuang

    Somewhat disagree.

    Crabbe would have not been better than Bogdan, Joe, or Sean.

    Johnson would be an upgrade at PG over Vasquez and Whitehead.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    Those players are terrible, Bennett not so much.

  • hchao

    Exactly! RHJ has been playing recklessly and shooting is very bad (actually non-existent) even when wide open. He does not belong in starters, but the problem is Nets does not have any other more suitable SF in his place with better defense. They desperately need a couple of 3D SFs.

  • sport

    There’s a reason why even with the big contract offers, their teams matched Nets’ offer.

  • psalm234

    Let’s focus on the POSITIVES of the game for JLin and the Nets.
    Otherwise, we lose hope and can’t see any good things going forward.
    You may add more if it’s not listed here…

    JLIN’s Positives:
    1. Once again, he proved he can bounce back from a poor shooting game with excellent all-around game. With fresh legs, Lin looked unstoppable shooting 60% FG (6-10) and 50% 3FG (1-2) to finish with 14pts/4asts/4steals/2rebs/3tos in only 24 min
    He could have scored more if he wanted to stat-pad but like a good PG wanting to win, he tried to empower his team. He could’ve had 2-3 more assists easily if his teammates can finish well.
    As Lin’s fans, we know this so we get the credit, too 😄

    2. Improved Season Stats after a strong Game 4
    FG%: from 38.1% to 42.3%
    3FG%: from 31.3% to 33.3%

    3. Strong defense
    Lin recorded the season-high 4 steals (Wade, Mirotic, Butler, Rondo) for himself and the Nets.
    His 2015-16 season high was 5 (2 times) and his career high
    His career high steal is 6 (2 times) during his first 2012-13 Rockets season as a starter.
    Note: Lin’s steal contributed to 1 out of 5 TOs by Wade

    NETS’ Positives:
    1. The lack of focus on defense was exposed and emphasized in a 30pt blowout
    It’s embarrassing to the Nets but coaches will get their attention when they insist on players to show consistent effort in defense. Players have pride so they wouldn’t want to get embarrassed again (hopefully). For now, their focus on defense was truly inconsistent.
    2. Motion Offense doesn’t work well with this personnel, especially against high-seed playoff teams.
    Coaches would have to plan for more Brook-Lin PnR if they want to win (or not get embarrassed) vs good teams like Cavs, Celtics, Miami.

    Again, it is important to have the realistic expectations for a newly-assembled team like the Nets in the first 10-15 games. There will be a lot of ugly games and glimpses of brilliance; the victories will be sweeter after they go through these tough struggles. Hopefully it will be sooner than later.

    I still stick to my range of 30-45Wins for the season if most are healthy. Also my 4W-6L prediction in the first 10 games.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Bennett needs to visit a sports psychologist. He needs to get a mean streak, get mad, fight for his professional life. He has the body and the skills. Its in his head. If he came out with a monster game, 25 pos, 10 RB and 2 or 3 blocks that might do it to instill some confidence. He just seems to lack confidence. If he could PnR with JLin, set HARD screens and roll HARD to the basket like Tyson Chandler he will have found a calling. RHL just looked lost. I felt sorry for him.

  • psalm234

    Based on the last game vs the Nets, it’s probably correct.

    But some teams might improve more than others after the first 10-15 games

  • CJSHYY

    I think KA needs to watch film his Motion system has lots of problems that he needs to fix it. He can’t always think…. we can use the chance for developing….??? smh! I am glad Lin is back to NY again w good person as his coach but KA needs to do his homework a lot better.

  • sport

    Ok google listed Bog as SF? Which means KA has been playing two SFs which doesn’t really make sense?! I rather have a SG in Joe Harris or Kilpatrick to start along side Lin! Kilpatrick definitely has the speed to get to the rim and share some ball handling with Lin. They can even play off of each other if Kilpatrick can pass to Lin for him to cut to the basketball or vice-versa. Lin’s offense expands when he works with another guard who can set him up to score in different positions. I think Scola can do that too but unfortunately KA doesn’t want to start him. Scola also can’t lead the bench on his own and needs major help.

  • psalm234

    Just for fun, guess if you remember what the 2015-16 Hornets record was in the first 10 games and 40 games before they finished with 48W-34L?

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    2015-16 Hornet Season
    First 10 games: 5W-5W
    First 20 games: 12W-8L (7-3)
    First 30 games: 17W-13L (5-5)
    First 40 games: 18W-22L (1Win-9Losses, 7 game losing streak)
    First 50 games: 24W-26L (6-4)
    First 60 games: 32W-28L (8-2 run, Courtney Lee was traded)
    First 70 games: 40W-30L (8-2 run)
    All 82 games: 48W-34L (8-4)

  • sws94

    I think 4-6 for the first 10 is realistic. I think low 30s win might be it for this season based on, beyond Brook, Lin and Booker, the players are too raw. I was hoping RHJ was better. Of course, that’s not cast in stone and we don’t know how much Kenny will improve this team. I an NOT against his offense or even his substitution. I actually believe he has a plan and a clue of how to improve this team.

  • psalm234

    it’s tough to guess how Coach KA will adjust on offense. But the glaring issue is definitely the horrid defense now.

    I was hoping for more Brook-Lin and Book-Lin PnR but the defense just turned things upside-down. I figure the #1 issue to prioritize would be defense. Hope they fix it quickly. Otherwise, fans will lose interest watching blowout games.

  • sws94

    KA said offense will lag behind defense. And right now, defensive woes are far more pronounced than offensive ones.

  • psalm234

    Just for fun, guess if you remember what the 2015-16 Hornets record was in the first 10 games and 40 games before they finished with 48W-34L?

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    2015-16 Hornet Season
    First 10 games: 5W-5W
    First 20 games: 12W-8L (7-3)
    First 30 games: 17W-13L (5-5)
    First 40 games: 18W-22L (1Win-9Losses, 7 game losing streak)
    First 50 games: 24W-26L (6-4)
    First 60 games: 32W-28L (8-2 run, Courtney Lee was traded)
    First 70 games: 40W-30L (8-2 run)
    All 82 games: 48W-34L (8-4)

  • psalm234

    Currently, the Nets defense is very offensive to watch lol 😅

  • CJSHYY

    Just from NY Post… their #2 & #3 PG are all not working… #2 injury all the time… #3 Whitehead just said he’s not ready for this level yet… so Our GM needs to work something…. smh!

  • ProLin

    I don’t think it was THAT bad.. it’s very simply that the team as a whole except for Lin can’t shoot the 3 worth a damn. 17% for the entire team? Many of which are known 3pt shooters? Nah, this is just one of those nights. I think they kinda knew it so KA rests Lin/Brook a lot and just see if the gang can bounce back.. well, they didn’t. If they shoot the 3 as well as the Bulls this would be a close game. So yeah, just one of those games. Some guys in the team has to git gud fast. Lin is back in great shooting form so some rest is good. I think this is another learning game and hopefully we’ll rarely see such a stinker again.

  • psalm234

    SKil is more ready to be PG/SG for the 2nd unit

    Whitehead just makes too many mistakes being a rookie, not used to the NBA speed which is very common problem. Jeremy also experienced it.
    After 10 games it should be clear that he’s not ready. He can be deactivated and be sent to D-League to get more PT

  • sport

    Why not try letting the SGs like Kilpatrick and Harris play as PG as well? Nowadays so many SGs play as PGs anyway. Again these should’ve been what preseason was about yet KA never experimented with. They handle the ball and play better than the PGs this team has minus Lin. I think Lin needs a SG along side him.

  • Steppen03

    To other good posters here,
    I’m not writing this team off from the playoff. I have to see 20-25 games before I’m writing them off. This IS JLin7’s team and there will be improvements every week. They just fought real hard for past 3 games, so I will take 3-1, 3 good games to 1 “flat” game. And to Web Attorney: counting them off from the playoff is the easy, safe bet. The real bet, the big bet is counting them MAKING the playoff. JLin7 will lead them to the playoff. Bank it! I’ll be here.

  • sport

    I’d like to see SKil and/or Harris feeding Lin a the 2 guard position for a tripel threat situation like last year’s Hornets and vice versa. Again these are things that should’ve been experimented in preseason. A 2/3 guard line up should’ve also been experimented.

  • Maknusia

    ditto….hahaha…thats the leader who is educating the young rookies NBA is no joke….either you come in prepared (mentally and physically) or not…there is no middle ground

  • Maknusia

    lol…if the initial pieces planned were here, the whole mechanics and strategy would have changed. NETS got to do with what they have…its a long season and the scoring from both bench and starters are needed thru out the quarters.

    Most importantly the defensive mindset need to be set

  • CJSHYY
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  • psalm234

    Honestly, I was thinking Brook-Lin PnR would be regular staple for my 4-6 prediction but Brook’s plantar fascitis added offensive inconsistency. But on the other hand, the bench can get really hot in the 4th quarters so that was a nice surprise.

    So 4-6 can still happen if the rest of players are still healthy.

    RHJ’s inconsistency also bothers me a bit but it’s possible he is still getting used to this motion offense. There were times when he showed flashes of his athleticism but it is very inconsistent. For the Nets sake, hopefully he shows more consistency after 10-15 games

  • takeme2cruz

    True lin fans don’t count them off? They just want the coach to stop wasting the season for his nonsense experiment.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’m not sure Marks and Kenny are prioritizing winning games…I don’t think this is something that’s first in their mind..They want to develop first so guys like whitehead will see more time than he should and they also want to set the motion offense in stone, so instead of mixing things up that fit their best player strength, they will rather lose just to highlight the motion offense.

  • psalm234

    One of the few good defensive plays by the Nets tonight.

    I enjoy watching Brook swatting DWade’s layup (plus his reaction)
    https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/793254346892910592

  • Win

    Exactly, To KA,

    1) You don’t rest your starter 3 games into the regular season unless you have a deep bench. Stop acting we are the Spurs cuz we are not.

    2) You are here to compete and try to win in a regular season game instead of develop raw players and weird experiments. Just look at the Knicks during Linsanity. All the star players were hurts except Tyson and yet they still able to beat a lot of playoff teams because they played their best lineup and heavy minutes.

    3) Not competing and develop raw players in a regular season game = tanking which is what most of the fans hated the most.

    4) You are tanking for nothing, nothing at all!

  • spiderman
  • Win

    If so, it is the same as tanking which is worst than the 76ers as at least they were ranking for something. We are tanking for nothing.

  • Win

    I have no problem with the roster as I have mentioned before, is not like a lot of players want to play for the Nets. The problem is the coaching and the Minute management. KA made an adjustment on game 2 which was encouraging. But this game show he is the type that give up the game too easily and to often looking for develop super raw player like Whitehead.

  • CJSHYY

    I think KA shouldn’t waste player like Lin’s prime time to develop his rookie….Plus Lin said before vs Celtics game… he hates rebuild….he wants it now…

  • Win

    The funniest part was yeah it is a blow out game and yet, Wade and Butler still played more minutes than Lin and Brook. Smh.

  • Win

    The problem I have with KA is even we are in rebuild mode, we still should try our best to compete and try to win every night. If you wanna develop a player, send them to D-League, that what Long Island Nets are for.

  • webattorney

    Not really. Most here were saying playoff or close to it. I was in the minority viewpoint here.

  • webattorney

    If Nets are able to match Hornets’ record through first 20 games, they are still in the playoff hunt.

  • Dorothy

    Why is it so painful to be a Lin fan? Finally Lin is back to be a starter, but now the coach/FO cares more about developing bench players. If coach keeps giving away games, not even Lin can save their box office. As a Lin fan, I can not see myself spending money to watch Lin being misused.

  • Sueki

    developing players is part of his agenda

  • zxcvb

    Though it’s frustrating for fans, I actually understand Kenny’s low MPG when I think about it. They’re evaluating guys for the rotation and/or for trade, and even Lin isn’t in midseason form yet (MIL game showed that).

    When Lin is fresh and healthy through the winter and spring, we’ll all be thankful they watched his minutes early on. How much of a bummer would it be to see Lin hurt himself playing 36-38mpg in a November loss? Remember MDA “riding him like Secretariat”?

  • Brent Yen

    Let’s hope so…:P

  • KHuang

    It’s a lot more of a bummer to NOT see Lin because nobody thinks he’s tough enough to play 38 minutes!

    In truth, Lin could easily play 38 mpg.

  • zxcvb

    He can and should eventually. But right now, it seems a lot of guys around the league aren’t fully in shape.

    I admit I was surprised and wrong about Saturday. I thought he’d be fresh and loose because it was early in the season, but he clearly had tired legs on the 2nd night of a back-to-back.

  • PETE B

    Every guy on this roster is a coaching challenge EVERY GUY 1 -15
    KA works hard but this Motion offense don’t work and the roster is the challenge
    Why can’t MO be built off of lins and Lopez strengths first? What about bogs? He shoots well so let’s get him in a position to score easily. This is coaching. When does Lin get to control the offense and call his plays? If not it’s going to be a terrible season
    bulls exposed the truth of the matter I’m glad for the NBA reality check
    The celtics game was the same but some luck made it hidden

  • KHuang

    If Vasquez had not predictably gone down with an injury, Lin’s tired legs would not have been so tired.

  • Steppen03

    We don’t know what Coach KA is trying to do or thinking. I will give him the benefits of the doubt. He’s a smart man – and he do knows his players limitations. I will give him a bit more time… There’s no rush… As much as I hated losing I will be patience at this moment.

  • Steppen03

    That’s what I’m saying… If they went 4-0 I’m very happy but doesn’t mean a thing down the road if they’re going to stink it up later. I’m very happy if they went 1-3 or 2-5 or 3-6 but they will end up 10-10 down to road. We shall see… But one thing for sure, JL7 will lead them some great victories.

  • hchao

    I think Brook is madder. Brook:
    “It was just poor energy right from the start. You know, obviously there’s no excuse for the way we played, you know, it’s contageous. We need our first group come out with right inensity and right energy..we just were flat–especially defensively, honestly…falling apart..points of the first quarter were not acceptable. …I think we just made too many unnecessary unforced turnovers. We’re just pretty careless with the ball, you know..just just all around. Again, you know, our first unit didn’t set the right tone coming out both offensively and defensively.”
    http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=1210475083

    (look at his face: I think he’s really really mad.)

  • occupatio

    the pinned highlight vid is hilarious. includes the eyesore lowlights by the benchers

  • Pistolpete

    Strongly disagree about every guy being a coaching challenge. Lin is a coaches delight. Agree with the rest of your post.

  • Spot

    Ok, who tells Jeremy to have braids throughout the season? =)

    Jokes apart, Nets really needs to fix defense and bench some players who can’t produce on both side of the floor.

    I hope they could find a good trade for Ed Davis.

  • KL

    I feel that RHJ is a fraud on both ends. Sorry for saying it in such a harsh way. Even if he is a good “individual defender” any team that runs proper plays will expose his lack of team defence. RHJ’s lack of offence also allows the defence to key in on Lin and Lopez. I know what it is like to play with a team mate with no offence. Sigh.

    Still I understand that politics always gets in the way. RHJ was hyped up last season. If he does not start he might sulk and not put in the effort. So coach Atkinson has a challenge on hand. I hope RHJ improves but it is painful to watch now. Maybe Lin can bring out the best in him.

    At the same time I think we should not over react. The Bulls were lousy last season because of Rose. Now that they have unloaded him they will be one of the better teams in the East.

  • David Kim

    Even though its a good system(motion offense), its not a good system if players doesn’t fit into the system well. Atkinson preaching motion offense sounds like phil preaching triangle offense. They both had suceeded those systems with right people. When Booker (open man) shoot 3s, i wasn’t confident whether he will make.. MDA’s system without lin or Nash can be a bad system for some players..

    I still belive they can make playoffs or win at least 35 wins.. I think Atkinson will make adjustment if they keep losing like this…
    A good coach always does it…i am not saying he is already a good coach but i believe he will be a good coach with more experiences…They gotta play better D too.
    I have a little concern about Bogs defense..

  • heart

    Lin is truly wise beyond his years. Lin’s teammates and the coaching staff need to take heed of Lin’s advice:

    “Honestly, I’m fine with learning the lessons as long as we learn from them. That’s my thing is if we have to keep re-learning lessons, then to me, we’re not taking advantage of these opportunities ’cause I think that is what failure is. I think failure is an opportunity to grow and an opportunity to learn. And as long as we’re hungry to do that, I think that in the long run, we’ll be ok.”

  • Spot

    Problem is he doesn’t have a decent shoot so team can collapse in the paint, blockin’ the BrookLin pnr.

    That’s why KA needs to bench him in my opinion.

  • Spot

    Some things must change and some players too.

    But they can, agree.

  • Spot

    Braids are the answer =)

  • heart

    Thanks. You make me laugh. But I think he’s directing his answers to them. He has applied those principles in his life and NBA career. Very wise advice for anyone really…

  • grover chang

    Chicago seemed to have an initial plan to unload Rose and Noah. That was done and then Wade fell in their laps unexpectedly. After that they just seemed to slap whatever talent was available like Rondo. I thought they would be bad with no plan except gather talent, but they have made it work.

  • grover chang

    You make too much sense. I actually was hoping for playoffs and even 50 wins before the season. I feel foolish now. I was basing my thoughts on Lin and that the coaching would play in a standard fashion. I didn’t expect him to play his starters limited minutes, in a system that does not fit them, and even sit lopez for rest?! KA is not doing things the traditional way. If he did with a pg like Lin and a center like Lopez they would be good.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    His PER tells you the whole story. After 4 games as a starter, his PER is 0.07

  • Arsenium12 .

    An inspiring video from the organization “One Day’s Wages”. Jeremy will be working with one of their campaigns, the “Girls Empowerment Fund.”

    Jeremy will be donating “one game’s wages” to the campaign as well as giving $100 for every 3 pointer he makes. Fans are also encouraged to donate to the campaign. See : https://give.onedayswages.org/campaign/jeremy-lins-one-games-wages/c102612
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  • Vincent

    even the spurs feed kawhi leonard and aldridge more so than their other players..

  • BobbyH

    Just some observations for the past 4 games. Analysis wise, not criticism.

    I think KA picks games to experiment. They (exclude Lin)
    probably have an overall win target (maybe 30-41 wins) but at the same
    time they want to develop the scheme (MO) like Spurs. It is OK to develop young players in meaningless quarters. But with responsibilities for the fans, you need to try to compete for the win, especially on the home court. I think this is a
    risky move if you develop players in real games as you might lose fans.
    See last night fans cheering for Wade because there is nothing to cheer
    for Nets. My point is too much Whitehead in critical quarters.

    Not
    enough talents (like shots won’t fall all night and poor 3pts % for the past 4 games), not everyone buys in
    (evident on the court for the past 4 games, RHJ, Whitehead, Bogs, Vásquez, who
    often either broke the play or lazy to get to spot) and defense issues.
    Those are challenges facing KA and Mark.

    KA has to make adjustments, for sure. Otherwise the loss is inevitable and the pressure will be mounting. I can see his face last night that he was not happy in 2Q/3Q when the game slip away. I hope he is not stubborn enough to keep doing this weird rotations/experiments for too long. Though it was only 4 games, but you got to get better every step going forward. Other teams are getting better too.

    A note about Brook. The scenario surrounding Brook is not normal. Benched in starting 3Q in the first game of the season? Rest in the 3rd game of the season? low minutes played? Not much post and P&R with Lin? I think something is cooking (or as the Hornets rumor, it is already cooked). They might have a minutes/game mandate for Brook for the purpose of trading. If you are Marks, and you talked to KA about long term Spurs like scheme, you want a mobile center that can defend and shoot 3. Brook is too slow and his prime is declining. Why not shop him and get a first round pick when his value is still decent?

    This is what I would expect. For the first 20 games, KA will keep experimenting the MO scheme (not necessarily developing players. There is a difference) with target games to play to win (like game 2). Once trades got settled. he will begin to stick to fixed rotations and scheme to begin the real development for the team as a group with fixed roles and with realistic goals.

    Just my 2cents.

  • HVJoy

    True – “wisdom beyond his years”!

    The G4 loss might be the worst defeat in his basketball career. Hopefully Nets players, and coaches, grow and learn from this painful failure.

  • heart

    Lin is not a coaching challenge. It’s the coaching that is a challenge to Lin!

  • Ray Lam

    Man I was hyped for the game last night. I got out of the train and ran home to make it back right in time for the tip off. Then it was all downhill from there. Rondae and Whitehead need to be sent down to the E league. I don’t know how RHJ is even in the starting line up. Kilpatrick needs to start. Brook needs to STOP shooting 3s . This was just terrible to watch. I don’t even know if Lebron could do much with this group.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Nets’ PER

    Jeremy Lin 21.57
    Trevor Booker 20.79
    Bojan Bogdanovic 19.92
    Luis Scola 19.65
    Brook Lopez 16.55

    Sean Kilpatrick 17.73
    Justin Hamilton 14.92
    Anthony Bennett 11.78
    Joe Harris 10.29

    Randy Foye 7.6
    Greivis Vasquez 4.69

    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 0.07

  • CJSHYY

    Too bad his coach & teammates are not …. smh!

  • sws94

    Pelicans didn’t want to pay. AD is great, gets injured a lot however,. But Lin and AD together would be quite a pair.

  • Whitman Lam

    Nets need to start playing like a meritocracy. Stop giving RHJ and Bennett so many minutes “just because” of their drafting rank or their hype. Minutes should be earned, and they have not shown they deserve it from their lack of offense and defense.

  • CJSHYY

    I really like this fan said from the other side……. he(KA) himself needs to develop to be a coach.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope see something different on Wed game.

  • David Kim

    Atkinson does see some positives going forward.

    “We’re going to play [the young players], and it’s a great experience for Isaiah, Chris [McCullough], Anthony Bennett, for those guys to get in these types of games,” Atkinson said. “It’s part of their development, and as they get more experience they’ll step it up in closer games.”

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    I’ll be at Wednesday’s game against the Pistons with pretty good seats. I’ll let you know what I perceive and observe. BTW, I found out that one of my friends who grew up in LI grew up with the Akins boys (KA was one of 8 boys!). What a small world.

  • Ray Lam

    Development? Isn’t that what the D in D league stands for?

  • DanCohen

    no.. they need to fix their 3 point shooting. They do that.. they win. case close.

  • DanCohen

    $100 bucks for every 3 pointer he makes.. hmmm will he start missing them!? hahahaahha or maybe is that why he missing them!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! What else can he say….? His mind set is not as a winning coach yet. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    So weird. I check D12 in Hawks. He didn’t take 3P shot why KA asked Lopez to do so?

  • DanCohen

    that’s why it’s NEVER good.. to hype anyone up. Let them play normally at first
    and let performance dictate.. that’s how it should be. Otherwise politics at play instead of bball at play. They did that with lin in the past as in lin has to perform to play while certain others stars don’t because it’s established. But if they use that performance dictate, they nba will be completely a different game and level. But nope.. someone like john wall is 1st pick, but they still losing.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    We should hope Lin can explode for a 35 point game very soon or I fear a long losing streak coming, thanks to Kenny for resting Lopez for the very winnable Buck game.

    Nets could really use a Linsanity game against detroit to help them get a win against Detroit on the next game.

  • DanCohen

    Zamm straight.
    Especially when they say .. play them like chess.. not checkers. All pieces have their specialty moves in chess where every one has the same moves in checkers. Love that analogy.

  • BobbyH

    How about donating $500 if he misses? 😉

  • heart

    Bc Coach Bud is playing DH’s strengths. He using DH’s strengths to win games.

  • DanCohen

    And high % shots is BASED on each players skill level and comfort zone.
    If someone like brooks, keep shooting 3s when his chess move method is in the post, why have him shoot 3s. He can say get 60% chance of getting 2s in than 20 percent of 3s. The math is 0.60 x 2 = 1.2 or 12 points expectancy in 10 chances.
    While
    0.20 x 3 = .6 or 6 points in 10 chances.
    Which one will you pick.

    Same with booker or rhj.

  • Win

    You don’t do that in a regular season game, if you wanna develop players, send them to D-League

  • takeme2cruz

    It’s not about game lost, it’s about team vision and that vision reminds me of when Lin was in LA, tanking to develop their youths.

  • Win

    LA tank for a reason = draft pick. We tank for no reason and no reason at all.

  • DanCohen

    that won’t happen unless he is super efficient as kA like regular distribution of ball momvement and not hardenlike shoot first hogger.

  • DanCohen

    KA should get Dirk then instead of lopze.

  • webattorney

    Drummond will have a field day against soft Nets. One big man like Drummond, Nets can compete against most teams. I don’t really blame KA for losses because he’s doing some things well. Maybe he feels Nets have the best chance to win during second half of this season when most teams will be tired out.

  • heart

    I sense that but didn’t want to compare or believe it. But I have to say, so many similarities have surfaced, especially when I heard KA insisted Lin facilitating instead of scoring first after they won the first preseason game. Don’t want to compare KA to BS, but that was exactly what BS said after Lin won a game using PnR w/ Ed Davis, Boozer, Jordan Hill…The players were so happy and celebrated their first win in a long while, but they got scolded after that. After the first regular season win using PnR w/ Lopez, instead of continuing the momentum, KA ‘rested’ Lopez.

  • webattorney

    Just put your best defender on Lin and try to trap him and ball pressure him to slow him down. That is how I would play Nets. Give Brooks his 3s all day.

  • CJSHYY

    I sure hope not…. I really think KA is not a good coach yet… he’s nice guy or good friend of Lin but that doesn’t mean he can be a good coach. He just has no idea what to do yet…. smh!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lin need to be more like Harden…just shoot first Lin and run PnR.

    Harden is averaging 26 and 10 assist..I think Lin could do similar under MDA system.

  • webattorney

    KA should have rested Brook for the game against Bulls instead. I would allow younger players to play more against teams that Nets will not beat such as Spurs, Cavs, GSW, Raptors etc.

  • DanCohen

    he can’t.. that’s one reason why KA chose him because lin tends to be unselfish and is ‘coachable’

  • Rick James

    who are you going to give those minutes to then? Vasquez, Scola, Foye?

  • Rick James

    the team is just bad, nothing to do with FO or coach

  • Ray Lam

    I think Lin needs to almost have an Allen Iverson kind of mindset. It’s one thing if he’s passing to capable guys but only a couple of these guys are capable of doing damage.

  • heart

    Does KA makes any adjustments or draw up any plays? The way that he implements the current ‘motion offense’ is so predictable. He wants each player to create his own offense by either 3 or drive. Only a few times that we saw any pnr being used is w/ Lin. I think Lin is implementing that himself w/ whomever he can get to follow his lead. Other than that, we don’t see any creativity from any plays from other players…

  • Ray Lam

    Yeah lets see how many rebounds he will get tomorrow. I say 18.

  • Ray Lam

    Brook Lopez has been in the NBA for about a decade now. He has never been a 3 point shooter ever but now KA wants him to shoot 3s???? Also, I have to say it again. RHJ is just horrific to watch.

  • DanCohen

    that is going against what lin .. he likes to develop raw players too.

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t watch Hawks game… KA’s Motion system looks like Hawks O system?

  • Ray Lam

    I know. I can only dream.

  • takeme2cruz

    You’re right, it’s just so similar.

  • KHuang

    Hand the minutes over to Lopez, Lin, Bogdanovic, and all the other guys BARELY PLAYING 24 MPG.

  • Maknusia

    Jeremy Lin 林書豪─ 2016.10.31 Nets vs Bulls

    By jay910221 4:09min

  • Click Click

    Best Lin highlights:

  • Maknusia

    Jeremy Lin Highlights 20161101 Bulls VS Nets

    By LIN LONG 6:19min

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lopez should had rolled toward the rim at 0:23.

  • Click Click

    Look, it was an ugly game for sure, and on national TV, but people need to stay calm and not overreact. I’ve said countless times that it will take at least 1-2 months for this team to gel. We’re not even a month into it, since this brand new team first started playing against actual NBA teams. It will take time and patience… and unfortunately, ugly games like this one for this team to get used to playing with each other, where we’ll finally see their full potential on the court.

    It’s painfully obvious that Kenny doesn’t care about winning or losing most of these early games of the season. He cares more about building team unity and development instead. The only game where he truly unleashed Brook-Lin was in the home opener, where he had a suite full of family members there (as well as Mama Lin), as well as an arena full of die-hard Nets fans that needed to see the Nets win their first game.

    Kenny gives everybody the green light to shoot to build their confidence. This is actually counterproductive though. Not only does this bad gameplan lose games, it also kills what little confidence players have when they keep chucking up bad shot after bad shot, just because they’re told they need to keep shooting, no matter what happens. RHJ and Whitehead combined for 4 of 18 FG and made their first baskets in the 4th quarter against the Bulls bench. Brook and Booker should not be camped out at the 3-point line and taking 3s either. That’s not their game. Bennett kept chucking up 3s, going 1 for 5. Although Kilpatrick can shoot, he was ice cold last night, going 0 for 6 at the 3. Same with Harris, 1 for 5 at the 3.

    I don’t mind guys like Harris or Bog chucking 3s, because shooting are their strengths. But if they’re having an off night, stop giving them a green light to keep shooting. Lin was ice cold against the Bucks, but he kept chucking up shots as well. It’s a terrible strategy to allow your players to shoot your team out of games.

    I’m not going to blame last night’s game fully on Kenny though. Nets simply didn’t come out prepared to play, other than Lin and Bog. I do blame Kenny for throwing in the towel and giving up halfway through the 3rd quarter, resting his starters for the rest of the game and allowing the Bulls to embarrass the Nets on their home court on live national TV. This is not competitive “Brooklyn Grit” basketball they keep reminding the fans about.

  • Click Click

    I also want to remind people that Lin’s stats are looking very good (other than 3P% and FT%) through 4 games:

    https://i.sli.mg/6aPVhX.jpg

    He hasn’t even been unleashed in 3 out of 4 games.

  • sws94

    imo, in the spirit of what D’Antoni did for Lin, let him play through mistakes, I, as a Lin fan, am not going to harp on or judge KA harshly by his mistakes. He’s trying to do the motion offense and it is working at times. There are several times I’ve seen in games the ball movement was crisp and led to an open shot. There is a good amount of PnR that I saw and multiple screens. The idea is to play team ball and incorporate Brook and Lin’s strengths into that. Lin is ultra-flexible. He’s not a strictly PnR point guard anymore and hasn’t been for a long time. He can also play effectively off-ball and at times, play the 2 if the Nets had a decent PG. At times. Mostly, he’s playing PG. This is what we wanted. And no, it’s not going to look like D’Antoni. Atkinson is not a PnR coach. And I accept that. It’s going to look like Atkinson’s system. I don’t find it reasonable to expect KA to do everything right. KA is also sort of out of the box with Lin’s playing time and substitutions which leads to Lin being removed form the game when it seems he was warming up. But, I like out of the box, and in the long-term, the way Lin plays with taking hard charges, dealing with hard picks when playing defense, being swarmed and taking hard hits on drives and such, those extra minutes rest in shorter playing time periods could mean the difference between Lin playing on bad ankles and a sore back in February vs. less sore or minimal wear. So, there is a bigger picture than the games at hand.

    Then KA is the coach for the entire team. He has to figure out what to do with the mess that is RHJ. He has to develop two good looking players in Hamilton and Harris. He has to use Bogs as effectively as possible. He has to figure out how to deal with Brook’s feet, and I’m convinced his foot injury, whether one foot or both, is a factor. He has to see if Whitehead can be developed on the NBA level or needs to go to the D league. He has to refine Skil’s game, because SKil will be a big part of the team. And, in the offense he wants to play, the whole team matters.

    But, getting the guys to play strong defense and smart defense is the biggest challenge. Trying to figure out when to rest them and what combinations in what part of the game against the game against the opponent matchups on the floor is a challenge to any coach. He’s going to make errors. Let him. That’s part of KA’s development as a coach. He may also need to play a different closing lineup than starting one. You need the best defenders, but also guys who can execute a play and finish Lin’s passes inside. Or, can hit free throws if the guy gets fouled. So, there’s a lot to it.

    This season things will improve and progress at an unpredictable rate. Lin is now a leader and will get the role and minutes he deserves and thrives on. But the team has serious issues. So, there will be growing pains and really ugly, hard-to-watch games in the process. But, it is a process.

  • DanCohen

    that’s only hindsight.
    it might more sense to play against the bulls because of his brother there.
    Back to back I understand and make sense.
    So it doesn’t make sense if he rests lopez against the bulls. which is a better team then the bucks which rhymes with you know what.

  • DanCohen

    all in da first half..
    image in hit that open 3.. that would be 17 points and 4 assists.. all in the 1st half.

  • DanCohen

    he is better than a 16 and 6 player.
    17 and 8 if those teammates shots start falling.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • Click Click

    That’s why I used per 36 stats. He’s been a 20/8 player thus far, but because Kenny played him less than 30 minutes per game on average, he isn’t getting the stats that actual starters around the league has.

  • sws94

    Lin has the most minutes of anyone on the team. He didn’t play over 30 minutes last night because of a blowout. He was on a pace to play about 34. I think Lin will play 32 minutes a game as the season goes on.

    I think it’s possible Lin will get between 15.5 to 16.8 PPG and about 6 to 7 assists on average. Assists depend on how well guys can finish. And a lot of guys don’t finish so well on this team. But some nights, they do. Points? How much does Lin look to score? The balance coach may want is something like Lin at 15 to 16 PPG, and Lin is the type of player to deliver what the coach wants. Lin, in general, does not jack up shots the way a Lillard, Westbrook, and even Curry does.

  • DanCohen

    oh boy.. well, shows that he really cares.

  • grover chang

    As the late great Michael Jackson once Sung.

    I’m gonna make a change, for once in my life
    It’s gonna feel real good, gonna make a difference
    Gonna make it right…

    I’m starting with the man in the mirror
    I’m asking him to change his ways

    The players don’t have to change for Atkinson. Atkinson needs to change for his players.

  • Arsenium12 .

    As requested by some, I think, earlier in this thread …
    __________

    https://twitter.com/TaylorRooks/status/793516977591574528

  • DanCohen

    hahahahahah
    so they are being superstitious now.

  • Ray Lam

    Here’s how to address it. Bench RHJ, tell Brook to stop shooting 3s and order Lin and lopez to implement more pnr. Also tell Brook to grab a freakin rebound!

  • Ray Lam

    Too bad his stats will be ignored by everyone NOT a Lin fan because of the losses beginning to pile up.

  • Ray Lam

    His numbers would be better if KA played Lin 35 minutes a game regardless of how bad the team is doing.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    The motion offense works…Just not with the players we have on this team.

    Motion offense only works when they can spread the floor. The floor can only be spread when there is the threat of
    shooters who can shoot the ball. In our starting lineup, we have 3 out of 5 who can’t shoot the ball. I cringe every time
    I see Booker, RHJ or Brook take a shot from outside. The problem is, you need RHJ and Booker in for defense.

    There is an argument to be made that Harris or Kilpatrick should be inserted into the starting lineup. The problem with that is, even with them in the second unit, the bench already has a hard time scoring. Can you imagine putting RHJ in the second unit? They would really have a hard time scoring then.

    I don’t mind having RHJ in the starting lineup as long as he is in there for defense only. Coach needs to put limitations on him. Even if he is open for an outside shot, I would rather he pass to Jeremy for a higher percentage shot instead.
    It’s still very early in the season and it seems the coach is still experimenting with lineups and giving everyone a chance.

    Lastly, it’s very difficult watching Whitehead play. Not sure what we will do with our backup point guard situation.

  • Grace

    Why do “people need to stay calm and not overreact?” Will something terrible happen if fans voice their disgust at the product the Brooklyn Nets are putting on the court? I’m sure JLin is “stubbornly” trying to get Kenny to fix what is obviously broken, but having fan support in the form of outrage expressed on social media can only help him make his case.

    What needs to be fixed? Kenny needs to start his best lineup, give them starter minutes and not throw in the towel before half-time. That means that a player like RHJ who is averaging 2 pts/game and whose PER is essentially 0 should be benched, not played 30 minutes. Players who can shoot like Lin, Bogie, Harris and Hamilton should take 3 pointers but others should not! Only Lin should be allowed to create. Lin should run PnR plays with the bigs. Post-up plays should be run for Lopez. Etc.

    Fixing these glaring flaws will result in a team that is competitive or at least fun to watch every game. Another season of Lin in his prime should not be wasted.

  • Ray Lam

    Dennis Rodman had a better offensive game than RHJ.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    I agree. RHJ is very hard to watch. He should not have a green light to shoot. It’s just a wasted possession.

    Booker should stop shooting 3s as well. While we are at it, we should take away Brook’s green light from the 3 point line as well. =)

  • Ray Lam

    It makes me wonder what the heck was RHJ doing in the off season? He has to be working on his jumper or something. It looks like he just started playing bball.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    Even if Lin and Lopez implement more pnr, we have to remember which teammates he has to kick it out to in case the pnr fails. It’s Booker, RHJ, and Bogs. Makes me want to cry. Haha

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    I didn’t get to see him last season but I was surprised to learn that he’s apparently supposed to be the “future” of this team. I know he’s known for his defense, but is his defense that amazing to compensate for his lack of offense? I don’t think so.

  • BobbyH
  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    I would Love for Lin’s stats to be higher. But the last thing I would want is for even a possibility of Lin being injured in garbage time.

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    I agree. Everyone needs more defined roles. Booker, Brook and RHJ should no longer have a green light to shoot b/c its essentially a wasted possession. The problem is, with defined roles, I think that is no longer a “Motion Offense” then. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan at all of the Motion Offense for these players, but I don’t think Kenny wants to give up on it yet.

  • Ray Lam

    Bingo!

  • Steppen03

    I agree. We’ll see what happens in next 5 games. Players should develop in practice, in D-league – and not taking 10-15min of valuable game time and lost the game. But on the flip side – we have to be more patience because playing heavy minutes on main starters will wear them out. Theres no short cut here – the weaknesses will be exposed sooner or later. The Nets have to play through mistakes and learn from it.

  • FrankW

    How do you remove the banner with the facebook, twitter, printer, email icons partially blocking the pages on this site?

  • SK

    BENCH RHJ

  • KHuang

    But the Nets are NOT playing heavy minutes on starters.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Brian Heyman is a sports reporter for Newsday (newsday.com) …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/bheyman99/status/793516825237741570
    https://twitter.com/bheyman99/status/793528132397592580

  • aggressiveplayer

    It’s honestly a learning process and KA is trying to gather information about it and figure out what will work and what won’t.

  • GoJLin!

    Have good time to cheer for JLin! Hope KA allow some P&R play for Lin, “Pistons” is a winnable game if everyone took the lessons learned.

  • fungch1218

    Anyone see this clip at 4:30?? It is terrible.

  • aggressiveplayer

    And to do that it’s a trial and error process. We try a modern NBA offense, and then see who can fit into this playstyle. For those who don’t fit, we modify the game for them. Either that or if they’re not part of the longer term plans, they won’t be on the Nets in the long term.

  • CaliUSMC

    I’m expecting 20/8. 16/6 is unacceptable.

  • Click Click

    You can go crazy and overreact, I couldn’t care less what some of you people do. It’s just silly to be outraged and flip out on social media at a team without the talent of most other NBA teams to be what fans want them to be… especially because it hasn’t even been a month since they’ve played together as a team.

    I’ve already stated what needs to be fixed and I’ve said many times that RHJ shouldn’t be in the starting lineup. I’ve also said that motion offense isn’t working with the personnel and lineup Kenny puts out there. I’ve said that Brook-Lin PnR needs to be the main weapon. I’ve stated my displeasure of Kenny’s decision making. However, I’m not going to lash out at Kenny or Lin’s teammates. I’m going to be patient and realistic with my expectations for this team.

    By the way, it was Lin’s own decision to come to Brooklyn, knowing full well it’s a complete rebuild. If he didn’t want to waste his prime years on a rebuilding team, he shouldn’t have gone to Brooklyn. I fully support Lin’s decision to be a Net, even though I wanted him to go to a competitive team like the Spurs in the off season if he wanted to be a playoff / championship contender in his prime years. Most people here disagreed and wanted him in Brooklyn, Houston, New York, etc. instead.

  • Click Click
  • takeme2cruz

    No one should be overreacted after 4 games of 82 game season. Every Lin fan should be panic when coach’s vision is to put winning as secondary to young players development. KA forgot that he’s the head coach now, development is what he used to do and what Dleague is for.

  • Click Click

    Byron Scott tanked the Lakers to get them picks, not to develop players. Every Laker, rookie and vet alike, were all thrown under the bus by BS. It wasn’t development.

    Nets aren’t tanking. Kenny is trying to make these players into something they’re not (yet), but he’s not tanking. He’s simply not worried about wins or losses at this point of the season. If he continues to do what he’s doing in the next 2 months after D-League has begun, then everyone can start to panic.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    PFV’s comments on the game

  • CJSHYY
  • Grace
  • I am The Jason

    You pretty much summed up my displeasure with the Nets right now. They are still doing the same ill advised schemes that have plague them during the preseason. The offense needs to run through Lin. Everyone should NOT have a green light to shoot a 3. I was disappointed in the Bucks game because it was winnable but the coach “rested” Lopez 3 games into the season. Last night was a disaster. Lin was the only bright spot. Plays are not being setup. Very little screens are being set. Its like they are not playing as a team.

    Before the season began, their were people happy we did not get Tyler Johnson and Crabbe because they had bigger contracts than Lin. That’s a head scratcher for me. Those two additions would have made this team fun and possibly playoff bound this season. Now we are stuck with a broken down Vasquez and “not ready” Whitehead

    But what irks me the most and probably most in here is that KA threw in the towel in the 3rd qtr. That is unexceptable.

  • spiderman

    LOL

  • psalm234

    new thread
    After a 30-pt Blowout Loss to the Bulls, the Nets Defense is a Glaring Weakness
    http://www.jlinportal.com/the-nets-need-to-find-defense/
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/793550669563039744

  • Steppen03

    Click Click,
    I really don’t think JL7 getting on board knowing its a “losing season or rebuild,” but rather he agreed to put forth the best product on the court every night. I think he is on board to win and make a playoff push. THATS really the only way. They have no draft picks and no quality FA is looking at the Nets as a place to land. But if they can make playoff and then some more people, FA will look at the Nets more closely.

  • HY C

    10 “seasons”?

  • Spot

    Yahoo!!!

  • psalm234

    haha, 10 games… but it sure feels like seasons waiting until 10 games are over

  • psalm234

    yeah, even in the more mature Hornets team they had to go through “journeys” of ups and down.

    We know JLin will be able to find a way to lead and inspire this team given enough time

  • psalm234

    yes, Hornets were a much more mature team. They benefit greatly by having Lin as a part-time ball distributor to facilitate great ball movement.

    Nets would certainly have more growing pain. But my point was even as a more mature team, Hornets were struggling to master the defense. It certainly takes time to play good-to-great D