G9 CHA @CHI Game Thread

After 2 hair-raising Hairsanity games, JLin looked determined to power up the bench with aggressive scoring, suffocating defense praised by Coach Clifford and clutch shots in the 4th quarter reminiscent of Linsanity run in 2012.

Will the starters stumble out of the gate again? Or will Kemba/Al find the shooting touch?
Jimmy Butler and the Bulls are mad for losing in a blowout loss and are ready to dish a sweet revenge in their own home court.
Will the Super Jeremy Brothers ready to spark the Hornets off the bench?

The real question is how well Coach Clifford make adjustment during the game?
Will Coach Clifford bring in the bench early if the starters struggle mightily like in the Knicks game (down 21pts in Q1 and Q3)?
Or also bring in the starters early if the bench struggled in Q3 against the Spurs?
The Hornets can’t afford losing games because the coaches are so late to make adjustment that opponents are up 10-15pts

Let’s hope JLin continues to regain his shooting touch (esp. 3pt shooting) back, perform shutdown defense and be the most lethal scorer by repeatedly going to the FT line.

Let’s go, JLin! Be your aggressive self!


Game link

  • http://goatd.net/ 

    • TTNN

      1st

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Second

    • kjch

      Super Jeremy brothers… I like it good job

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Kemba&Al will do well.

    • pandaboy99

      It was good to see jeremy drive more knowing his 3 pt shot was not falling last game. when he gets his touch back h*** be unstoppable.

    • sws94

      I think he only took one and it went in. His jumper seemed to be falling but he didn’t take that many of them.

    • NONONO

      Any news about Hornets?

    • Rick Johnson

      He has a definite size advantage over Aaron Brooks. He should be able to drive and shoot over him at will like he did the last time they played the Bulls.

    • KHuang

      I’ll bet that the Chicago Bulls flagrant foul Lin to bleed him.

    • CJSHYY

      No, please. But I think they will target him …. smh!

    • Let’s go, #SuperJeremyBrothers!
      Swarm those Bulls tonight! Buzzzz!
      https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/665270927018475520

    • NONONO

      Jeremy Lin needs to protect his hair which has been intimating, upset, annoy, threatening,,,his components.

    • Spot

      Whateverth!

    • NONONO

      Hornets #8, Rockets#9, Knicks #10, Lakers – #Bottom.

    • Rick Johnson

      Yeah. If they beat Chicago they would have same record 5 – 4 as Chicago but since they beat them they would move up above them. Would help if Indiana lost too. Then that would put them in 6th?

    • CJSHYY

      Rox #9? Wow! Harden is really good this season. LOL!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Rockets 7

    • Rick Johnson

      Didn’t they lose the to the pitiful Nets. The only game the Nets have won this season. LOL

    • NONONO

      9Rockets44.5005.03-22-32-14-4L110Suns44.5005.04-33-21-24-4W111Trail Blazers45.4445.54-42-32-24-5L312Grizzlies36.3336.51-51-22-43-6L413Kings27.2227.51-72-50-22-7W114Pelicans17.1258.01-41-30-41-7L115Lakers17.1258.00-40-31-41-7L3

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! I saw last few min of that game. Heard that 3 evil guys said something wrong w this team… ? It’s home game. LOL! Also saw Mc looks so miserable. Haha!

    • NONONO

      I do not know who to blame for Lakers bad performance this season after Lin left. Scott must blame every player except Kobe as usually. Kobe must say ever player is too soft except himself. I get it. Kobe is not soft. He is just too fragile – for 3 seasons.

    • Whitman Lam

      Zeller and Hawes have ankle injuries. Whether they play or not will be a game time decision.

    • NONONO

      No… we need Zeller. He is only Hornets big who knows how to play PnR.

    • CJSHYY

      I saw Hawes did some shooting today.

    • Adnan Ahsan

      18p 6r 5a 26min

    • Excellent article. More pressure to Coach Clifford for not starting Lin/Lamb or at least give more min

      https://twitter.com/nhawj44/status/665200982402445313

    • blubell

      Protect the hair at all cost! 🙂

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      No rumors, just opinion.

    • Rick Johnson

      Maybe Hansbrough will get a chance.

    • blubell

      Or more minutes for Kaminsky.

    • Rick Johnson

      Rest Hawes and Zeller bring in Hansbrough and Kaminsky?

    • Lx

      Blame the coach, I hope he stays. So the Lakers can remain the way they are.

    • Michael

      Congrats

    • Spot

      Paris in panic: already 18 deaths in a terroristic attack. Muslims again.

      Oh my God, hopefully Sophie is safe.

    • sws94

      I think Lin has double figures. Anything from 11-18. If more, I’ll be posting Linsanity or Hairsanity during the game. Depends on how many FTs he gets and/or if some 3s fall. He just has to keep playing great defense, I hear Clifford emphasizing that he wants that out of Lin. Take shots that are there, run the offense with authority, get out and run when possible, play strong D.

      I don’t think Clifford is that concerned about unit 2. He was, but not after the last 2 games. It’s the starters that need to right themselves.

    • Rick Johnson

      At least until 12/28 & 1/31/16 when the Hornets play the Lakers.

    • golfhacker

      26 now.

    • JW

      Not sure if it’s just the coach issue anymore. The FO really screw up LAL extremely. Looks like Jeanie Buss will be the sole decision maker for LAL soon, kicking out her brother.

    • Yascar

      This is bad.

    • NONONO

      I wish Jack Ma would bought Lakers next year and sign Lin as PG or head coach. Watch out, Steve Ballmer!

    • Dan Cohen

      You guys have to know that when lin does really well this year, other teams will look at him STILL AS A BENCH PLAYER.. because that is where he currently excels at as proof of his excellent off the bench play.

      He will not be a starting role on the other teams. Only way to do that is he gets to play pretty much more than half of the season as a starter and do well in it. Otherwise, no team will risk him as a starter. Get it? That is reality. Face it, eat it, chomp it, digest it, then finally accept it. Thank you

    • Spot

      40. And there are 60 in a local where there was a concert who are prisoners at the moment.

    • CaliUSMC

      wheres the stats poll man?

    • Dan Cohen

      how do u know it’s those muslimios?? did they say or is it yo assumption

    • DX

      Yes and No. Yes, he need to work much harder than starter since come from bench. No, other teams aren’t stupid which will see Lin’s ability. Especially, he close the game and lead the team.

    • Spot

      Yes. They said allah u akhbar when they were shooting people.

      40 people dead in stade de France where there was France Germany.

      People are on the pitch and players are still in locker rooms.

    • Dan Cohen

      Yes and no too. Only way for OTHERS to really see it, is when Lin does that in the playoffs.. not just the 1st round but the intense 2nd and 3rd round and finals. If he doesn’t get there, he is still consider an excellent bench player. Look at other bench players last year in the playoffs, are they starter now? No. That is the value they see at THEIR CURRENT position.

      Only way is that Lin STARTS and plays ‘linsanity and more’ continuously DEEP in the playoffs. Else they only see his biggest value off the bench. even the hornet radio said that this is his perfect situation, playing and leading off the bench while if he starts he might not be as good. That is what hornet’s radio say. I heard it. So it’s proof.

    • CaliUSMC

      So it’s a restaurant shooting and Futbol stadium explosion? Sad..

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Last thread: Postgame vs Knicks thread.

    • Rick Johnson

      Jeanie or Jim would have to be recorded making some racial remarks for them to give up the Lakers. They wouldn’t sell.

    • Sundown

      Agreed. I don’t think Sports World or Sportige opinion pieces put any pressure on Charlotte or the coach. If ESPN starts saying something, that would be different. But Lin would have to put at least a few more excellent games together before any national awareness of his play.

    • Spot

      And a local where there was a concert. Still 100 people there under 3 terrorists with kalashnikov

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Go to watch TV and any news outlets are reporting this live now. Even here in Brissie.

    • sws94

      That’s what I think. Can’t get hung up on when he starts, his minutes. He’s the guy that is hurting the opponents and they are noticing that for sure.

    • golfhacker

      American “metal” band is the performer. Eagles of Death Metal.

    • Spot

      Eagle of Death Metal. That’s the name of the band.

      Other shootings in Paris, elsewhere ….

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • this is so terrible :[ 100+ hostages in theatre
      I hope the SWAT team can save them.
      This is becoming such huge problems

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • Spot

      Thanks Melody

    • Spot

      https://youtu.be/EAjc0UF34wU

      A bomb during a football match. I don’t know what to say…

    • golfhacker

      Good to hear. Prayers to everyone there.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Welcome! Just thinking what would be the best way to find out how Sophie is doing. Then I tried it out in Twitter and she responded pretty fast. That’s great. Still feel horrible to those victims and family members.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • Let’s hope they can be saved soon 🙁
      It looks like it’s confirmed that these are ISIS-related attacks.
      Hoping & praying these evil people can be stopped soon

      https://twitter.com/MeijerHerman/status/665294289719685120

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Prayers to victims and family members of Paris attacks. Hopefully Batum is still able to focus on this game. Pray that his family is also ok as well as other French players and their families.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Yep definitely is Islamic extremists works. No doubt about that. The supporters also said Rome, London, Washington DC will be next. Hopefully all countries are more prepared and prevailed from further attacks.

    • Spot

      Oh my God……

    • This is so crazy. Countries need to go on the offensive to capture these evil people before they can attack again!

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Oh no. Hopefully the forces are able to do something fast.
      https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/665298393833451520

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Yes. Any kind of extremists that use religion as reason is bad news. Their mind is distorted in every sense.

    • SWAT team really can’t wait anymore. They have to stop these terrorists

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Yes. They need to. No time to play around. Those terrorists won’t stop until they are killed.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Sorry my mind is full of Paris attacks and not on the this game. I’m really concerned about what is happening in Paris.

    • Yascar

      As is the rest of the world Melody. This is terrible.

    • blubell

      No need to apologize. I hope this can be resolved soon.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Indeed, Horrible!

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Pray and hope so esp about the hostage situation. They are killing one by one. Can’t imagine how many more deaths before this is over.

    • sws94

      They live in major cities. Then one day they have coordinated attacks. This may not be ISIS. It might be al Qaeda. Nothing will be clear for days.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      I’m also getting the live report from BBC:
      http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

      The more I read, the more terrified I’m to all the victims and their family members.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • we are all very concerned and saddened :[
      This is affecting everyone because ISIS already made a global threat to DC, Rome, etc.

      I hope tightened security in all sports venues, theatres and many public places

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • Rick Johnson

      Kaminski or Hansbrough?

    • sws94

      That’s what I thought. The coordination looks like al Qaeda. ISIS is more local and brutal in areas they took over and in Syria.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • sws94

      Tsunami alert too. It’s a bad day. Definitely sport is put in perspective today.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Problem is they also attack restaurants. US situations maybe different. Probably all those places that you mentioned.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Read about 10 or so minutes ago, they cancelled the tsunami alert.

    • sws94

      OK, thanks.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Report: Police storm Paris concert hall where hostages held: security source

      #France deploys military personnel for #ParisAttack Up to 6 gunmen reported. Similarities with #Mumbai raid of 2008.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Paris attacks: eyewitness accounts
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34813570

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      They’re all the same to me, they’re all killers.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Both.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Sorry Socialism now I have to LOL. Worry about the border now?

      President Obama, did you hear that? They closed all the border.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • sws94

      Essentially yes. But knowing who did this has to alert intelligence to be on the watchout and take further measures. Hopefully heightened alerts will foil the next attempts.

    • Spot

      2 terrorists killed and people are starting to come out of there. Hopefully the majority are OK.

    • sws94

      Some of this may not be right. I was in New Jersey, near NYC when 9/11 happened and may of the news coming out turned out not to be true. While this is going on, some things may be right and some not. It will be hard to tell until well after the attacks are done with. Confirmed are 4 I think. There may be more attacks. Waiting for confirmation.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Good news.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • Joe what do you know

      Prayers be with Parisians….
      With the European refugee crisis, border security and public safety have really been compromised….
      Really wondering if there are any good solutions to this problem

    • Dan Cohen

      omg

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Good news for a while.

    • Great to hear that

    • Zeller Update: he’s out for this game
      https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/665310978125529088

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • sws94

      That means they’ve expanded their operations. That’s horrible.

    • Rick Johnson
    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Can’t let your guard down to neither one. Innocent people were murdered because “we try” to foil the next attempts.

    • CJSHYY

      This doesn’t sound like a compliment to me.

      https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/665314810645491712

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Nop. That’s why I didn’t even think about post here.

    • Alain Gervais

      Yes it is a complement. The bench players part is just stating the fact

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Did he mean by any start players?

    • John Focker

      Sore loser’s way to compliment.

      Pretty dumb actually, since it implies that “any two bench players in the league” can decimate the Bulls.

    • blubell

      The fact that they are talking about bench players is somewhat of a compliment.

    • GoodDayLA

      Just got to smash Bulls HARDER. Use that as locker room fire.

    • Rick Johnson

      He knows who he has to plan against.

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! Feel the same way. Then why there’s rumor about Bulls wants Lin…? smh!

    • blubell

      Trying to downplay their importance.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      BFMTV, Associated Press and Reuters report that the operation to storm the Bataclan is over.

      Various reports say two attackers have been killed.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Recap: what we know so far
      http://bbc.in/1MsTKXd via @BBCNews

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      That’s like saying those two models are as beautiful as any lady in the views.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • sws94

      It’s fine. He says worry about them. It’s almost like they are more worried about these guys than the starters. That’s an acknowledgement of who they think are the big weapons on Charlotte.

    • sws94

      We foil them. We know. I don’t think any Western intelligence knew of this operation.

    • 1mtoldman

      just trying to get back in here thru disqus issues.

    • blubell

      Welcome back 🙂

    • LAJane

      The need to outgas our stress about Jeremy not being regarded as highly as he deserves can be very strong. But this doesn’t help. What is it that you want from us here? Do you want us to voice negativity more actively? Do you us to stop speculating about the possibility of him ever starting, or ever being valued? What does eating and accepting mean to you? Do you want us to stop being fans, or….I don’t know…I don’t get it.

    • Dan Cohen

      wt- is wrong with these ppl?!

    • orLinaryjoe

      Bring back the sting

    • welcome back, @1mtoldman:disqus 🙂
      too bad we have this evil event in Paris :[

    • blubell

      Bzzz… Buzz city!

    • Dan Cohen

      Actually it’s stop specualting the possibility of him starting and to tame those crazy ones who will start rattling off and yelling obscene words to clifford and other who kept dissing on kemba. It doesn’t help lin as if someone read those will leak it to the locker room and destroy chemistry and then becaome another toxic houston.

    • orLinaryjoe

      Bad news day. Saw earlier, a double deck tour bus careening down the street. many hurt.

      http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Tour-bus-crashes-in-S-F-s-Union-Square-6630911.php#comments

    • LAJane

      Well OK, that’s quite good advice. But – “He will not be a starting role on the other teams…..finally accept it.” sounds like something else entirely. As if his ability and ambitions and our fandom are some kind of sad delusion. Which would be a sentiment for some other site than this one.

    • 1mtoldman

      ty

    • al

      The JJ stingers

    • 1mtoldman

      also ty

    • John Focker

      Welcome back.

      For a split second I thought you were typing Ty Lawson but was interrupted by “Disqus issues”.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • sws94

      That’s sad. Sounds like they didn’t save a lot of the hostages. 🙁

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • Joe what do you know

      I hope Nic plays well today for the people of Paris….

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Qui

    • John Focker

      If the Pacers fall to T-Wolves tonight and Hornets beat Bulls, Hornets will be at 6th in the EC.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • blubell

      Praying for Paris…

    • orLinaryjoe

      Want to see Lin dish it like White Chocolat too. From other site. Fun to watch.

      https://youtu.be/-izvBwrhqe8

      https://youtu.be/bYLSWceZhWk

    • 1mtoldman

      YOUNG WOLVES PACING GAME EARLY
      Minnesota’s trio of rising stars (Karl-Anthony Towns, Zach LaVine, Andrew Wiggins) have 19 of its 27 first quarter points as the Wolves lead the Pacers 27-24 after one quarter.

    • John Focker

      “Pacing” early… LOL

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      More problem in France: Fire at Calais migrant camp
      https://twitter.com/syndicalisms/status/665326649806880769

    • GoodDayLA

      by season’s end they will be #6 or better. Dont’ worry

    • blubell

      Lets hope the pups, I mean the Young Wolves, can keep it up 🙂

    • CJSHYY

      I think so too.

    • Joe what do you know

      Oh god… When will this nightmare stop?

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      French police are very impressive, could had been a lot worse.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      No idea. Saw this about half an hour ago but it’s confirmed now.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Any idea what it is?

    • John Focker

      That hardware is there for #5 or even better. My concern is over software algorithm. 🙂

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Sophia Paris, just say hi to us here so at least we know you’re ok.

    • blubell

      She tweeted earlier that she’s ok. Posted way down in the thread.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Oh good, she’s Lin fan family like us too.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      She is ok and at home. Waiting to watch game. She is in Twitter and communicates with several of us.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I’m not young. I’m slow sometime.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Good. I just don’t have twitter. Thanks.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      LOL That’s ok. I didn’t know much either. I only know where this town is because I was in Europe last year. We started our journey from London and entered Europe via this port town. Then I read the update news in Paris attacks and saw this news.

    • GoJLin!

      Hornets-Bulls Preview By JORDAN GARRETSON: “The Charlotte Hornets have won four of five behind improved offensive play, especially from their bench.”

    • blubell

      Thanks Melody for keeping us in the loop with everything today.

    • Sunny Sullenberger

      more than a hundred people killed in Paris.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You and blubell are my favorite, you guys are very impressive by bringing news and update here often so people like me don’t have to do all the hard work.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Oh my God.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Welcome. Didn’t expect to wake up from this horrific news. Happened as soon as I turned on my laptap. First thing I read was Japan earthquake and then all the Paris attacks news follow immediately.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      That’s a relief. Worry sick about her.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Thanks for the compliments. I want to do my part in supporting JLin:-)

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Evil terrorists are NOT crazy, they’re smart and well plan. We, free people, need to be more aggressive.

    • KHuang

      Hey, no other team even thinks Lin is good enough to be in the NBA let alone be a reserve or starter!

    • CJSHYY

      Bulls announcers are fired up about “revenge”.

    • JLin Fan from Australia
    • blubell

      *blushing* thanks! Glad to help fellow JLin fam 🙂

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Start with Sophia.

    • CaliUSMC

      I hope Batum has one heck of a game. Leggooo

    • cdblue10

      That’s sad.

    • Sundown

      Yep! Hopefully they’ll be disappointed. Stupid mistake by Roberts to get them riled up unnecessarily just to pad stats.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Hopefully the death roll stops right there. No more!!!!!
      https://twitter.com/bastibro/status/665335084287967232

    • Linzen

      Thank you Melody. Worried about her when heard about the news.
      Very impressed with the big global JLin family!!!!!!!!

    • Sundown

      Revenge! 🙂
      (Talking baskeball here…)

    • orLinaryjoe

      Mo 3!

    • blubell

      Foiled! 🙂

    • Lx

      I hope he isn’t selfish this game.

    • Linzen

      Really hope so.
      With everything going on in Paris, he may not be 100% focus… 🙁

    • cdblue10

      Bulls think this is a walk in the park…I don’t think so.

    • Sophie Paris

      I’m good thanks guys !! So nice of you. 😉

    • cdblue10

      Baboooom

    • CaliUSMC

      dude Batum is on fire

    • orLinaryjoe

      CHA 15 Bulls 11

    • Alain Gervais

      i don’t think they do lol not after last time 😉

    • cdblue10

      Great D tank

    • cdblue10

      And a floater

    • blubell

      Hairston has 2 fouls already. Time for the Jeremies 🙂

    • orLinaryjoe

      Kaminsky on

    • orLinaryjoe

      The boy band?

    • cdblue10

      Jefferson

    • Sundown

      Kaminskyanity!

    • BobbyH

      Starters playing good so far.

    • blubell

      I’m not even going to attempt to say that lol.

    • blubell

      The man band. lol

    • CaliUSMC

      Butler just drove pass Lamb for da easy dunK

    • cdblue10

      Kemba

    • blubell

      Where is JLin?

    • cdblue10

      Jeremy sighting

    • JLin is about to check in

    • CJSHYY

      Saw that….

    • 2:39 left in Q1.
      Let’s go, JLin!!!

    • CJSHYY

      Today is a little bit early… LOL!

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Kemba-Lamb is it working?

    • Let’s swarm the Bulls with lots of Hairsanity! Yeah!

    • Starters are losing a bit momentum so yeah…. Put the JLin engine in! lol

    • CJSHYY

      No, Lamb can’t get the ball, don’t know why keep let Kaminsky took th3 3P shot?

    • cdblue10

      A lot of individual scoring from Kemba so far

    • Whoops .. Kaminsky got a bad airball 🙁

    • blubell

      Hairy Hornets? lol

    • cdblue10

      Lin is the head of the dragon now for D

    • they predict trouble for JLin against Butler 🙂
      They didn’t watch the last game

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin on Butler

    • CaliUSMC

      lin playing good D against Butler

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! As SG again.

    • that announcer is about to be proven wrong

    • Sophie Paris

      All good Kwok thank you. Not at those attack places at all. I was in the champs elysees ^^’

    • JoeTeam

      announcers saying Jimmie Butler tough matchup for JLin. I’m seeing JLin do ok in boxing. Remember JLin handled Dirk.

    • blubell

      Is it Stacy King?

    • CaliUSMC

      Yeah Lol

    • JLin is really strong. Butler got boxed out close to the sideline!

    • cdblue10

      Kemba get the ball to Lin

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Why playing Walker for the whole Qtr?

    • CaliUSMC

      Kemba’s blowing it

    • CJSHYY

      Don’t like Kemba w Lin not pass ball to Lin.

    • cdblue10

      Take Kemba out

    • JoeTeam

      air ball first play after JLin in. Weak of Kemba.

    • blubell

      Sub out Walker so the JL’s can do their thing.

    • Alain Gervais

      Walker won’t let go of the ball

    • Sophie Paris

      Lin is no PG with Walker

    • blubell

      Sticky…

    • CaliUSMC

      Icky..

    • JoeTeam

      ha ha, the Lins Jeremy and Lamb.

    • blubell

      Yucky.

    • Clifford tried to get Kemba/Lin going but Kemba has to pass to JLin and vice versa.

      No ball movement 🙁

    • blubell

      I miss Clyde already 🙂

    • orLinaryjoe

      Mucky

    • heart

      Kemba wants his today. He’s not letting go of the ball freezing out Lin and Lamb.

    • Alain Gervais

      Wheres aaron brooks?

    • cdblue10

      Kemba is the PG/SG and everything else,want to redeemed himself from last game.Hi Sophie.

    • Kemba is still playing solo 🙁

    • BobbyH

      Yes, the ball either stop at Walker or the person next to him.

    • JoeTeam

      we will keep everything he says alive here and all year.

    • Alain Gervais

      Walker 8 shots in 1 quarter

    • Dorothy

      That is what I see, too.

    • sws94

      Yes, they have to work off of each other. Kemba is creating just for himself. Looks like he’s trying to shoot himself out of a slump and forcing things.

    • blubell

      hiding?

    • CJSHYY

      Too short to guard Lin so no playing time.

    • Glad you’re staying safe

    • heart

      Maybe being on the bench 4th qtr in the last game has something to do w/his ball stickiness today. He’s really taking everybody out of rhythm by doing that.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Cody Zeller is not playing.

    • Frank should’ve gotten that rebound.

    • Lam

      why is kemba still playing?

    • cdblue10

      A lot of individual basketball

    • John Focker

      TRYING to justify his paycheck…but accomplishing the opposite.

    • Too many one-on-one moves, not enough ball movement

    • Sundown

      Lamb d is awful.

    • JoeTeam

      ha ha just called Lamb Lin. Love it.

    • CaliUSMC

      Thought he said Limb..

    • blubell

      It’s that baaaad, eh?

    • cdblue10

      Nice pass wil

    • Finally, good possession with great ball movement

    • cdblue10

      Nice pass Lin

    • Lin steal!

    • CaliUSMC

      NICE STEAL LIN!

    • Alain Gervais

      stealLin

    • blubell

      Thief strikes again!

    • Too bad Lamb can’t convert the assist on fastbreak.
      2 FTs

    • Sundown

      Away announcers should just use numbers instead of names.

    • orLinaryjoe

      Lamb’s first 3 FTs.

    • John Focker

      Hairston 2PFs and zero stats in 6 min.

    • Hairston did pretty good challenging McDermott shot there

    • cdblue10

      What a stroke

    • blubell

      shots not falling today…

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Expect a barrage of angry Lin fans.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      I miss Zeller already.

    • Lx

      Im not too worry about it, he usually bounces right back.

    • Didn’t like Hawes turnaround sky hook 🙁

    • cshot

      how is lin doing so far? just started watching!

    • CaliUSMC

      0/3fg. shots are falling short

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Awkward or ugly is an understatement to describe it.

    • sws94

      Lin had fed Hawes. Hawes has to wake up. That was an easy assist.

    • Alain Gervais

      Great Defense. Offense hasn’t gotten started yet

    • zxcvb

      A little off the start the game. No problem. Just keep shooting.

      The only concern is minutes…won’t get to close if he doesn’t heat up soon. No margin of error for Lin.

    • Alain Gervais

      Hawes for some reason tipped it back to Lin which caused him to force a shot

    • zxcvb

      I thought Lin would make that shot, though. Usually does.

    • JoeTeam

      everyone worked it to SH and he bricked a corner 3.

    • sws94

      Right, he just rushed that shot. He didn’t intend to shoot it in the first place.

    • heart

      yep.

    • cdblue10

      It’s not a normal rotation,usually Lin gets the ball as soon he subs in Kemba just freezed them out

    • JJ Hui

      You are not talking about me right? Lol!

    • orLinaryjoe

      Shots not falling, but sky is?

    • heart

      So far Lamb gets to handle the ball and he’s doing that to get into rhythm. Hope Lin will do the same to get going w/his shots.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      For them, the sky will.

    • occupatio

      was that foul called on lin? on rose drive

    • Batum is in. Trying to recapture Batum/Lin/Lamb from last game

    • DRose fouled JLin away from the ball

    • zxcvb

      ??? Lin’s gotta shoot it there.

    • GoodDayLA

      damn from box score alone Lin is -6

    • DaVinci633

      hawes was clogging up the lane on that last play

    • didn’t see shotclock?
      very unusual

    • Alain Gervais

      Zeller not in there is causing Chemistry issues

    • zxcvb

      Yeah. But Lin’s jumper has gotten good enough he can make a tough J now.

    • zxcvb

      I think he actually might have been confused. Very casual.

    • noone cutting to the basket 🙁

    • DaVinci633

      Hawes is out after that poor offensive set

    • orLinaryjoe

      Then stop looking at it, lol

    • zxcvb

      In and out. Nice attempt though.

    • golfhacker

      Lamb has no conscience about shooting. Lin needs that.

    • GoodDayLA

      current lineup sounds good on paper

    • cdblue10

      Not a good start…

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Bulls destroying Hornets on the inside… I am not surprised.

    • zxcvb

      Oh oh. Off night tonight and Lin isn’t allowed to play through any bad quarters.

    • Hornets offense is not working now .. bad spacing w/o Zeller

    • Sundown

      And Hornets totally confused on offense.

    • sws94

      Lin needs to sit now. Hope he comes back in stronger. He’s out of sync tonight.

    • zxcvb

      Guys aren’t moving quick and sharp. Maybe a little fatigue?

      Everyone seems like a step slow.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Lin is playing fit in basketball again.

    • DaVinci633

      poor spacing, they’re all Pick N Pop. No rolling. No cutting, No Space, shots seems forced.

    • Alain Gervais

      We cant break down Bulls defense.Idk if its a spacing issue.Still Lin playing great defense

    • cdblue10

      Al is not used playing with Lin

    • zxcvb

      Not really. Just missing his shots. Only passed up one look.

    • orLinaryjoe

      Yeah. Just a bit off, but close

    • sws94

      Not decisive and imposing his will yet tonight. Not going out to get touches tonight and direct things. Maybe focused too much on defending Rose.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Not about shooting, about not aggression.

    • zxcvb

      Last jumper looked great…in and out. It happens.

    • zxcvb

      Exactly. 4 shots already with not much room.

    • blubell

      Jeremy is out. Walker in.

    • exactly ..

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Lin sits. Good, he needs to. 2nd half.

    • sws94

      It’s his aggression that isn’t there. He’s trying but he’s not quite right now.

    • zxcvb

      It’s there. He just missed his shots. Open layups aren’t always there.

      Every cool shooting streak isn’t a cause for alarm and regression to 2013.

    • Unfortunately, w/o Zeller .. Al Jefferson is the best threat inside
      He can create good spacing by drawing people in

    • blubell

      Lamb is getting Hairston’s minutes.

    • GoodDayLA

      well Lin is not getting 14-15 PPG tonight. Unless 2nd half miracle. And if he fails to get 15,4,4 type stats each and every game and close 4th Q, it will be very hard for him to establish himself in the NBA again even as a strong bench guy.

    • cdblue10

      Lin needs speed this time,they blitzing him left and right

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      What’s wrong with with Clif, Zeller out and Tyler still can’t find a min?

    • GoodDayLA

      at least Holberg finally got the memo and didn’t even play Brooks on Lin again. It took him 2 games to figure this out.

    • KHuang

      Ridiculous WRONG post.

    • Dan Cohen

      links anyone?

    • GoodDayLA

      its true. NBA is a stat whole community. It’s how you get noticed in the NBA to average fans and stupid GMs

    • KHuang

      Lin needs teammates to step up.

    • blubell

      Kaminsky getting more PT.

    • Did you try the goatd.net link above?

    • stam

      Al jefferson is such a bad defender!!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Thanks God starters play well so far.

    • Alain Gervais

      Bulls smarten up and put rose on Lin

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      They got out rebound. He needs to be whispered.

    • sws94

      Get more into early offense. When he plays this type of defense and athleticism, it’s best for him to push the ball down and make the other guys run with him.

    • GoodDayLA

      Oh i see Bulls changed lineup on Charlotte right? Bench now has snell. Also no more Aaron Brook I guess since goggles is back.. Bulls bench now better. and it’s got the long athletic wing to make Lin life tougher.

    • golfhacker

      He doesn’t jump in the air. Always flat-footed, outstretched arm.

    • My guess is Clifford will try to get Lin going in late Q3 but if he’s not scoring, he might not close.

      That seems to be his formula to close games. Whoever can score & play good D

    • Dan Cohen

      thks..that’s better than firstrow.. which is getting worst.

    • MoominFloren

      I want to see Tyler…..

    • sws94

      Rose is getting help when Lin gets by him. He’s actually getting different looks on defense. Lin now has to show he can meet the challenge and counter them in the next half.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Don’t mind Lin is benched at all. He played in comfort zone too much.

    • cdblue10

      Batum is carrying them on this game.Not forcing issue too.

    • yeah.. they keep it close for this game
      Zeller-less 2nd unit really hurts them

    • sws94

      I really think Lin is a finisher. If he looks out of it he won’t finish. If he improves, even if not scoring but setting other guys up, he’ll finish.

    • blubell

      Daniels is in.. hmmm.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Clifford played small earlier which was new. Lin Lam and Kamba.

    • Alain Gervais

      Kimensky is not ready

    • LALIN
    • cdblue10

      No foul for rookies,such a BS mentality for refs

    • sws94

      Kaminsky isn’t looking that good but he really needs to get the PT to get into the NBA pace.

    • golfhacker

      What’s with our bigs shooting runners?

    • he’s trying to set up offense and his shots didn’t fall.
      Trying to get to the rim but DRose got a hand, I think

      Should try more to attack rim
      That 3 min w/ Kemba in Q1 was useless

    • Alain Gervais

      Yep

    • orLinaryjoe

      Ugly

    • Let’s hope so

    • cdblue10

      Need Tyler here with Lin

    • sws94

      That’s why he shouldn’t start. He needs to run his own unit. But LIn should look to do more when in with Kemba and Kemba has to utilize Lin better when he’s running the point with LIn in with him.

    • golfhacker

      They are together – on the bench!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      He stood still dribbling too much today.

    • cdblue10

      Nice quality minutes for Troy

    • Alain Gervais

      Hornets making the game a bit ugly But at this rate we will lose. We have to get some rhythm going

    • Dan Cohen

      zamm.. over 8 minuts and 0-4 and 0 assists!!!! wth?!

    • cdblue10

      They’re teammates after all

    • DX

      Even as Lin fan, must say he didn’t play well.

    • CJSHYY

      I think so.

    • Dan Cohen

      so he missed shots?.. jump shots? or layups?
      oh geez.

    • sws94

      Not an entertaining game. Hope Lin steps up in the next half. He needs to get into double figures to keep his stats up. Get to the line, just play better.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lets see how Jeremy react to the first haif. Hope coach does something. Have to say That group of Lin, Kemba, and Lamb had a bad effect on the game.

    • DX

      Both.

    • sws94

      He didn’t play well. It wasn’t just missing the shots.

    • cdblue10

      Too premature to say that but he’s not playing well

    • Dan Cohen

      what do you mean? I thought lin kemba and lamb together in there?
      I thought they were suppose to be good?

    • CJSHYY

      I think so. Don’t see Kemba passed the ball to either Lin or Lamb that much.

    • KL

      Actually Lin made some good passes but the teammates fumbled or could not convert. He could have had 3 assists. He is driving but the bulls defence is making it hard to convert at the rim. Then he has not really had an open catch and shoot in the minutes he has played. He should do better in the second half. At least the starters are ok.

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba iso all day

    • Dan Cohen

      kemba needs to prove he is da boss still..uhoh..smells like harden

    • Dan Cohen

      then that means he is trying to show he is da boss ..not the JLS.

    • Alain Gervais

      Anyway Lin played great defense on both DRose and Butler. My how far he has come

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! I don’t think he’s happy got benched in 4Q vs NYK.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I’m hopeful for a much improved second half for Lin, God’s willing.

      Most of his shot were a bit too short…needs to push it a bit harder….The last shot which was a 3point was good, but it simply rimmed out…I was sad to see the 3 rimmed out because he really needed that one.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Someone tell Cliff don’t fix what’s not broken. Playing Lin Lamb and Kamba all the way to the end of the first. All mismatched with McDermott, Butter and Rose. Plus without Zeller, they need rebound, where’s Tyler? Hawes can’t jump.

    • Dan Cohen

      hahahaha if it rimmed out.. it’s not good.. so how can it be good!?
      a miss is a miss. in is an in..
      there aer 2 times when the ball bounces and rattles in..so they don’t count as ins in your term right?

    • occupatio

      lin hasnt made a bucket right?

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Oh they watched him.

    • occupatio

      the 2nd unit is disorganized. part of it must be that cody is gone and they have…is it kam?…someone else in there. no one knows what theyre doing and lin is dribbling the ball many seconds waiting for ppl to get into their spots, or directing them. its a mess.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Lin always does that even during Linsanity. Remember game vs Wolves and Raptors? All need come back.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      It started with playing Kemba too long.

    • sport

      LOL on the bright side they just showed Harden also has 0 pts so far for tonight.

    • occupatio

      lin started out looking for his shots, then, when he wasnt hitting them, he shifted to trying to run the offense. except the team is disorganized and they couldnt even set up without a delay. not looking for his shot and trying to run offense on a disorganized team, thats where its been.

    • sport

      Wanting to know whether they can “start” with Kemba (wishful thinking).

    • sws94

      Honestly, I really don’t care.

    • DX

      Haha, only 4 mins. and Rock has only 6 now.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      When you play big men spacing, Tyler is the best of the team.

    • sws94

      Lin’s style is to probe and direct but it isn’t going to work tonight. He has to get into everything quicker.

    • sport

      Cliff should really take Hairston out for Lin!

    • Lx

      Keep on shooting rose!

    • sws94

      He’s playing OK. He’s penetrating inside and looking to dish.

    • Lx

      Yeah true.

    • DX

      He just shot a 3

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba 4-12 8 points

    • Alain Gervais

      4-13

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      0-13 still wouldn’t matter.

    • spiderman

      yet you will not see him benched for that or other poor shooting nights

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin wasn’t either played about same time.

    • DX

      Another 3.

    • Alain Gervais

      as last game

    • DaVinci633

      Lin is not playing as badly as the stat looks. Its definitely more of a team thing rather than himself.

    • spiderman

      rose 2-9, butler 3-9

    • Maknusia

      Overall he is dong fine….with 6 AST, and 8Reb

    • Alain Gervais

      Aaron brooks in

    • CaliUSMC

      LIN IN … I MEAN LAMB IN lol

    • Alain Gervais

      Nope

    • DaVinci633

      I was about to say, put Lin in cus AB is in. Lin always torches AB!

    • DaVinci633

      I mean Lin not Lamb! Put Lin IN!

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin at table now

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba 4-14

    • Alain Gervais

      I cant believe we are close with so many people struggling

    • sws94

      Yes, he’s kinda of moving the ball and dishing. At the same time shooting a lot.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      The Hornets is only saved by 3 pointers.

    • CaliUSMC

      LIN IN FOREAL

    • occupatio

      rose has been nobody for the most part.

    • Maknusia

      yup…lol

    • CaliUSMC

      GOOD ASSIST BY LIN

    • spiderman

      kemba can go 4-22. it’s cool

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba has to stop shooting

    • CaliUSMC

      4-16 HAHAHAH

    • heart

      Kemba tried to be the hero. He should have passed.

    • Dorothy

      4/16 lol

    • sport

      Kemba should’ve passed back to Lin who was trailing behind!

    • sport

      Lin was trailing from behind!

    • LAJane

      For sure he’s under a lot of pressure to shine a bit. All the Lin/Lamb love has to have affected him, even if he tries not to let it.

    • heart

      Lin has not a touch since he came in except for that assist to Kaminsky! Kemba is hogging the ball.

    • zxcvb

      Lin’s defense never quits. He got that last steal too, but Kemba got the credit after he came up with the ball.

      Let’s just hope he can heat up as usual in the 4th.

    • sws94

      Terrible fast break by Kemba. He had both LIn and Lamb trailing him. That’s bad execution.

    • CaliUSMC

      I just want Lin to get at least 10 this 4th quarter. plz

    • sws94

      Hope so. He may have to get them at the line.

    • zxcvb

      Frustration for Kemba. Last game he was off. Tonight he’s off too.

    • redking79

      Aaron Brooks is in full shut down Lin mode. He is probably pissed from last game.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Jeremy could have made that fastbreak blown by Kemba.Ah well…

    • zxcvb

      Kemba doesn’t have that drop-off pass in his arsenal. Requires real PG skills.

    • DaVinci633

      2nd bad fast break execution by Kemba.

    • LAJane

      Haven’t checked in too much until now. Been doing housework…for real. Hope it’ll have some influence on the 4th 🙂

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      It’s so important Kaminsky gets hot this quarter.

    • heart

      I noted earlier bc he was benched last game in 4th qtr. He wants his today and not letting go of the ball when Lin and Lamb are in. What he does is taking everybody out of rhythm.

    • Dorothy

      22222222222222222

    • CaliUSMC

      GOOD DRIVE BY LIN WOOHOO LINSANITY QUARTER

    • zxcvb

      WOW. That was some drive.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Finally a teardrop.

    • redking79

      Big time move by Lin. Seems like every PG wants to pick up Lin full court or half court.

    • zxcvb

      Ach! Almost got that layup too!

    • spiderman

      it’s working

    • redking79

      Just spinned out. 🙁

    • Alain Gervais

      Lol rose back

    • spiderman

      they know who the real threat is

    • DaVinci633

      Hawes Clogging again! Geez, get a clue guy!

    • redking79

      Too many passes by the Hornets on the offensive end.. Nobody wants to take open 3s… why?

    • LAJane

      That they do!

    • zxcvb

      A couple barely missed in-and-out shots by Lin. Difference between 1-6 and 3-6. Can’t complain.

      Hawes is killing the Hornets. He didn’t step out to get the pass again.

    • zxcvb

      Nice move though. Shows confidence…even went left!

    • your son’s voltaire

      Lin blows by them going right or left but their big guys are waiting at the rim

    • sws94

      I’d like to see Lin go into offense faster. There’s a lot of dribbling and wasting time before going to his move. That’s something he can improve on as a PG.

    • zxcvb

      I’ve been a Hawes defender but this is unacceptable. Can’t do anything right now.

    • heart

      Trying to get guys move into right spacing and reading offense.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Good time out; unanswered 7 points.
      Bad defense.

    • joyce ward

      Exactly

    • your son’s voltaire

      i don’t know why Lin doesn’t use his floater, Curry never goes all the way for a layup when the bigs are waiting

    • sws94

      It’s sticking to him a little. It’s not a major thing, but if he did that the offense would move faster.

    • zxcvb

      Another steal/stop by Lin!

    • redking79

      Is that really the play called by the coach?? A rookie Kaminsky vs Gibson??

    • LAJane

      Don’t suppose Rose is lovin’ that steal 🙂

    • sws94

      Lin stole that from Rose, right?

    • Dorothy

      2222222222222222222

    • redking79

      Something is wrong with the rim the Hornets are shooting at.

    • zxcvb

      Confident J!

    • zxcvb

      No more Eremy Lin.

    • your son’s voltaire

      i love Dell Curry. such a professional

    • Rzo Vlade

      jeremys are off tonight

    • zxcvb

      Lamb blowing a lot of EASY buckets.

    • redking79

      Lamb passed up an open 3, why?

    • DaVinci633

      pull hawes out! Put Batum!

    • IsabeliJane*17

      I cringe when Lamb is inside battling it out against Noah and Taj.

    • redking79

      Lamb should’ve done that LAST posession.

    • zxcvb

      Phantom foul. Lin snuffed Rose…should be jumpball.

    • LAJane

      Jefferson for Hawes. Will that be better? Not sure.

    • cshot

      lin done?

    • your son’s voltaire

      game over. no Lin no win

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Lin for 3

    • DaVinci633

      Hawes just stuffing the paint on offense the whole time. Lin played some good D on Rose

    • golfhacker

      So Kemba can go 4-20

    • redking79

      Yea, no way Clifford is taking out Lamb.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lamb playing well looks like Lin is done

    • zxcvb

      Lamb gets to keep playing and scoring.
      Lin benched to keep his stats down.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      For some reason Jeremy rolling off Pau’s screen gave me the shivers.Too bad he was whistled

    • Dan Cohen

      well, lin is not playing that well I even have to admit now watching.

    • DaVinci633

      Announcer Credited Lin an Lamb for scoring on 4th

    • Dan Cohen

      lin has 4 points..could’ve been 6.. doon’t know why the baskt doesn’t fall in that layup.

    • sws94

      He was beginning to find something. And he’s the best defender on Rose.

    • zxcvb

      No. He’s playing great defense. All he did wrong was miss a few shots.

      He was heating up on offense and they yanked him.

    • heart

      Lin was did not have that many touches and was good on defense, please!

    • cshot

      honestly, i would’ve kept lin in just for his D on rose. Kemba not doing much

    • Dan Cohen

      but others are playing better.. even if lin is doing well.
      they need offense right now.

    • zxcvb

      No they’re not. They’re just playing more. Lamb went cold…let him play until he got hot.

      Lin was heating up. 2-3 right there. No excuse other than politics for this.

    • Dan Cohen

      yes, but they need offense.
      lin doesnt have offense rigt now.. while others like lamb does.

    • sws94

      He wasn’t getting fouls called. A lot of the Hornets were hacked inside and no calls. Lin wasn’t bad this half.

    • zxcvb

      Lin was starting to heat up, too. It’s all politics and race.

    • Dan Cohen

      he did get steal and blocks.. that is defense.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Lamb will frizzle in 4Q. Gameover.

    • heart

      He didn’t get that many touches. How many did KW missed???

    • DaVinci633

      Put Lin IN!

    • Dan Cohen

      face it, his basketball wasn’t falling.. A LAYUP COULDN’T FALL IN!! I was aghast. that tells you something is wrong.. everytime if a layup doesn’t fall in a FEW times.. not jst one.. it’s not good for lin.

    • zxcvb

      GO BULLS. Kemba letting Rose blow by him easily.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      No JLin no win. Take a poll! Let’s see how many points Hornets is going to lose.

    • your son’s voltaire

      by 10

    • zxcvb

      Everyone misses shots in the NBA. Even superstars.

      Lin made 2 of his last 3. YANKED. Silly to yank him.

    • Alain Gervais

      Game close to being over

    • DaVinci633

      Bad defense by Batum and Kemba

    • heart

      See Lin is needed for defense to get stops! t’s not just offense only! Lin was getting hot and got yanked!

    • John Focker

      Actually Lamb not as efficient with Walker as he is playing with Lin.

    • Dorothy

      No Lin No Win

    • zxcvb

      LOL, Noah gave them 3 freebies.

    • Dan Cohen

      you can’t bench kw consecytively.. he is 10 and 8 so far, so that is ok and yes that is more minutes but still.
      don’t compare kw with lin.. it’s starter franchinse player vs a bench player. Lin always HAVE to do well.

    • zxcvb

      Bulls got this.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Maybe 10 is too little:-)

    • Alain Gervais

      Lins minutes can Fluctuate from 15 – 25 its just too little time for him to start slow

    • Dan Cohen

      that’s true f-cker =)

    • Maknusia

      I dont think, Lin is not in because of his shooting or anything. It seems CC wants give it a go with the starters more minutes and see how they perform with certain lineups.

    • Dorothy

      People still think Clifford is a great and fair coach???

    • your son’s voltaire

      he’s the 9th man off the bench

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Cliff is the last person I would trust.

    • CJSHYY

      I think Kemba & Al were not happy so today it’s make up for them. Looks like Lin will not close today.

    • John Focker

      Kemba out to get his, but just look at that FG%. Coach tries to pair Walker with Lamb instead of riding the Super Jeremy Bros. but it brings Lamb’s game down while it doesn’t enhance Walker’s.

    • sws94

      If Clifford is experimenting with closing with Lamb over Lin, doesn’t work.

    • Dorothy

      Exactly

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      No much of team balls. Everyone is so wanted to be “hero” in this game.

    • your son’s voltaire

      nope. never have

    • Dan Cohen

      I know.. but dude.. frank kam missed so many layups.. so he is benche..
      lin missed how many layups??? in this game? From the past when his layups doesn’t even fall, it’s usualy bad game for him.

      kw can miss some but not a lot.. If a lot the coach will bench him… but he has a bigger margin of error because he is a franchise player… so you can’t compare lin with him.. it’ nba business.

    • cdblue10

      Cliff went back to his losing formula,it seems Lin’s teammates doesn’t see him on the court,no players mov’ts just whoever can get the shots.

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! From the beginning…. Kemba ball.

    • heart

      Yep! What have we been saying. Wake up people!

    • Dorothy

      Can not let Lin and Lamb shine

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Want stop? Send in Lin.

    • blubell

      Learning that the hard way. ..

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Yep he is really “selfish” in this game. Guess he really “hates” to be benched in last game.

    • Dan Cohen

      too early.

    • Dan Cohen

      of course.. part of coaches job is to keep them happy.. I knew this will happen.

    • CJSHYY

      I hope Bulls win this game. smh!

    • cdblue10

      Hat off to Batum he’s been a one h*** of a player on this game,Kemba one h*** of a chucker

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Yep they are going to win.

    • Maknusia

      yup…i think so as well…this is just the 9th game and CH is in good position, being a .500 team now…to do any kinda lineup experiments. Once you reach 20 games…there wont be much experimental options then….its way too risky

    • zxcvb

      No clutch scorer on this team but Lin.

    • redking79

      That’s game. Hero ball Batum trying to earn a new contract and misses another big shot.

    • cdblue10

      Put Lin in …

    • golfhacker

      Put Lin in!!!

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Not great but better than BScott or Mc.If this was Mc or BScott Jeremy would be DNP-coach decision

    • Maknusia

      sometimes…coaches need to prove a point or two to their players as well

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Agreed.

    • sws94

      Batum hit a lot of big shots this game.

    • CJSHYY

      No, Lin in will not get any ball at all.

    • John Focker

      Loss on Kemba and Clifford. Kemba wanted to prove himself and he did, just not in the way he would’ve liked.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Let Hornets lose.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I hope Lin will continue to do well with his low minute and leave Charlotte….I simply don’t see how Lin will get enough minute on this team.

      My hope is a team like Brooklynn or even the Knicks will sign him next year…but Lin will have to be very efficient with his low minutes…

    • sws94

      He’s going by feel. He’s feeling the guys now have the best chance to win the game.

    • CJSHYY

      Feel the same way.

    • zxcvb

      No chance at going in. Bad coaching.

    • zxcvb

      None of the clutch shots at the end here.

    • Dorothy

      Go Bulllllllllls

    • Dan Cohen

      if they just go nimble away with 2 2s, it will be 101 to 100.. sigh.. they have to go for the big ones.

    • Dorothy

      No, Clifford does not value Lin

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin has to play amazing to get 25 minutes

    • zxcvb

      CHA is lucky this game wasn’t a bigger loss. Noah gave them a free 3pt on a shot that was 50/50 spinning out.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Hopefully Cliff learns that no JLin no win. Let’s see how many more games he needs to learn before it hit him and Hornets. If they don’t learn, byebye playoffs!!!!

    • sws94

      If you go by feel, the guys on the court make sense. They have a chance to tie it up at least and get it into OT. I’m rooting for them.

    • heart

      Can’t stand to not seeing Lin playing in crunch time!!!!

    • zxcvb

      Even then, it won’t matter. Depends on how Lamb or Kemba is playing.

    • golfhacker

      NOT NY as long as CarMElo is there.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      GO Bulls. Make the shot!!!!

    • sws94

      Guys don’t hit all of the clutch shots. They hit some of them.

    • Dan Cohen

      game over

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Too late to take Lamb out.!

    • zxcvb

      BALL GAME. No Lin, No win, Clifford!

      Gotta have Lin in the clutch. He’s BY FAR the best 4Q player on this team.

    • occupatio

      the equation for cliff is that he wants to play lamb, and he trusts, or needs, to play kemba. and the rest of the rotation falls into place. thats why no lin.

      this is what he wanted to do against minnesota but lin was defending so well

    • Dan Cohen

      you odn’t know if he will be any better either.. so it’s all hindsight.

    • heart

      No defense on Butler?? Who guarded him?

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      I told you Lamb can’t take the pressure in the 4Q

    • zxcvb

      Hornets lose a close game w/o Lin in there.

      Here’s my shocked face ‘__’

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Do they have the Papa John’s free pizza thingy for away games?Papa John can rest easy for now.

    • Maknusia

      yah…and its been a close game and not a blowout…I dont think its wrong to give this lineup a chance

    • redking79

      Brooklyn would’ve been perfect. They have nobody and Lin could’ve been the featured player. However, Deron was still there when Lin signed with Charlotte.

    • your son’s voltaire

      they get 1/2 off papa johns

    • Alain Gervais

      The opportunity on their team is low for Lin

    • zxcvb

      Lamb ain’t got it. Cho and Clifford’s love affair with him has to end.

      Getting 32m tonight is a disgrace, esp. since he doesn’t defend anyone.

    • sws94

      Friendly bounce for Butler may have sealed the deal. Wasn’t a great game tonight for the team. They have to reset and play better next game.

    • DaVinci633

      Kemba playing surprisingly selfish…

    • joyce ward

      This site is becoming more and more toxic with these bandwagon trolls. Get a clue, the 2nd unit beat the Kicks 1st unit. Did you not think the bulls were ready for this. You should have known that big Al/Kemba were going to try to put on a show. Lin is the only player on this team that when his shots aren’t falling he does other things to help the team win. That’s why I hardly come to this site anymore because some of you act like the sky is falling if lin doesn’t play a linsanity game.smh

    • rookie75094

      No Lin ..no win

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Sounds good either way.Anyway do they have have it for away games?

    • sws94

      He’s one of the best players. He was scoring.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      I guess the trend will have to be Lamb Lamb Lamb; Lin will sit on the bench for most of the time unless Lamb is cold every night. They will try to make it work with Lamb. If not, the Hornets will start a losing streak.

    • zxcvb

      Back to his old ways! I blame Clifford. Without Lin on the court, any good defense can shut him down. And Lamb can’t score on his own either.

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      No many can including all the starters. JLin is a unique player. That’s why he is called Mr. 4th quarter! Well, seem like Hornets doesn’t value that at all. It’s a loss to them.

    • heart

      No clutch Lin on the floor, you’ll increase your chances to lose game, stiff Cliff!

    • your son’s voltaire

      i think so cus they advertised it before the game

    • Alain Gervais

      Every game ill roll a dice for how much minutes he gets

    • sws94

      After one game? Let’s not get carried away. And it wasn’t like Lin was lighting it up today.

      Sometimes a coach goes with who he thinks looks best that night. Tonight, it wasn’t Lin. No big deal.

    • cdblue10

      Jealousy is looming on this team,I hope I’m wrong

    • deesee5

      The other site is worse right now. I just stopped by here to see how it is.

    • heart

      You’re not wrong. Some of us have detected long before you did.

    • sws94

      Everyone has off games. Lin will be fine. Just couldn’t get into the flow. The team missed Zeller.

    • TTNN

      trying to stay selflessness is a hard process, so…..

    • zxcvb

      Clifford contradicting himself every game. Never has any consistent rotation or minutes.

      He’s totally flailing out there with no plan whatsoever.

    • golfhacker

      Lin had just made a jumper before he was taken out.

    • GoodDayLA

      I honestly believe Clifford is a Lin ally. I think its just Clifford’s hands are tied so there is only so much he can do. And Lin isn’t a sure enough thing like Lebron where Clifford can go all Lin and risk his coaching career on Lin.

      So this is what we have.

      Lin will probably be a career backup in the NBA, which is fine. I wish he could always just try to do the most he can in the minutes he gets, whether its 10 minutes, 20 minutes or whatever it is.

    • Alain Gervais

      This team won’t go far. its far too uncertain. Who evers hot plays is a ridiculous way to play. People watching their back now

    • Maknusia

      ditto…many still dont see the positive thats going on…..if we want to fill our live with negativity, then there will be no life to live

    • IsabeliJane*17

      I value defense more than offense.Jeremy played great defense tonight.
      No matter how many baskets Lamb got,he still ain’t good to me when he can’t even guard a wheelchair.

    • sws94

      All the guys came in their usual minutes. When the 2nd unit wasn’t really keeping the lead he brought back in the first unit. It wasn’t that inconsistent.

    • Alain Gervais

      Every game i see a new lineup. Like he is trying to kill the chemistry

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Lin will continuously be demoted until until the experiment with Lamb fails.

    • LinLinLin

      Missed the game by nick of time…wow, LIn is like, 8th/9th option off the bench?

      Well, it’s confirmed. No Lin, No Win.

    • GoodDayLA

      maybe he IS!

    • sws94

      I’m thinking Lin may not have finished due to size and Cliff compromised defense over size/rebounding. We’ll say what he says in the postgame.

    • golfhacker

      Coach said last post game conference he won’t play someone just because he’s hot.

    • GoodDayLA

      anyone wonder why WOJ did a feature article on Clifford before the season? There was an agenda by someone to push that piece out by Woj. But no clue who.

    • zxcvb

      You can’t justify Lin’s benching in any way. Even superstars go 2-7 for stretches…and then they heat up.

      Lin also played elite defense tonight. I’m grateful that Lin is able to play his game when he’s in there. But Clifford needs to MAKE UP HIS MIND. Stop jerking Lin around.

      No doubt Jeremy is furious tonight. And he should be. His loser teammates lost another one.

    • LinLinLin

      Ever wondered what did he and LIn discussed during the few-hour meeting?

    • deesee5

      I think it does. I didn’t see the first half but was Lin horrible or what? He didn’t score until 4th. I didn’t tune in until around 3rd. I dont know how first half went but I’m guessing not all that great I assume. When stuff like that happens, I can see why Lin dosen’t see much time. But the last two games Lin was awesome and he played plenty.

    • your son’s voltaire

      it doesn’t make any sense to close the game out with Lamb if you’re not closing it out with both Lin and Lamb cus how else will Lamb get his shots off?

    • DaVinci633

      Lamb scored only 1 basket after Lin got taken out in 4th.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Using Lamb is just like using a child to do a man’s job. His 4Q stats would always be his worst for the day.

    • cdblue10

      If Lin didn’t drive on the lane and get his shots he won’t get any points,they just don’t want to give him any chance to orchestrate the play

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      JLin is the 9th option in the past few games.

    • DaBoss

      No.

    • sws94

      Lamb is in tandem with Lin most nights. We really aren’t helping ourselves making other guys the enemy when the coach chooses to not play Lin as much as we’d like. Lin is fine. He is finding his role and being efficient. Wasn’t his night tonight. Next game maybe things will be different.

    • heart

      No. We actually witnessed live what was happening on court. Lin was playing great defense and just getting hot and got yanked. Defense was badly needed to get stops when he was out. Please!

    • zxcvb

      He’s very mediocre. CHA thinks he’s their future 6th man, but he doesn’t have any shot creation skills. He’s just a catch and shoot, catch and drive straight-line scorer. No defense or passing or dribbling skills.

    • Alain Gervais

      Anyways even with Lin shooting bad, I am sure he will bounce back. I really don’t know what imma get from Cliff game to game. His lineups come from no where. ITs hot potato out there. 1 year of this i guess. so much potential but Cliff is wasting it

    • sws94

      He had open looks. He missed them.

    • GoodDayLA

      no what

    • Sinners_Gospel

      lamb and spencer played no defense. Thats why the bulls bench ran up on the hornets bench.

    • Alain Gervais

      He has contradicted himself a few times this year

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Lamb’s minutes inflats to starter’s minutes and the team is right on its way to start on its losing streak.

    • David Kim

      jeremy 16min
      jeremy 31min
      Didn’t Coach say that he will let Lin play enough minutes? LOL

    • zxcvb

      Ever since Lamb signed that extension, Lin was demoted from 6th man to 8th man.

    • your son’s voltaire

      here’s the problem with playing iso heavy offense. your iso players aren’t as good as their’s. simple

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Not anymore. He has changed his mind once they are so happy to get the leftover from OKC.

    • DaBoss

      You’re wrong.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      For someone who preached defense,his lineup was questionable tonight.

    • GoodDayLA

      ok…

    • Alain Gervais

      When Cliff said he won’t just lay people because they are hot, He meant Kemba cause clearly he wasn’t hot.

    • your son’s voltaire

      nah, Clifford was always high on Lamb from this interviews. he views Lamb and even PJ above Lin

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      They might as well start Lamb. It wouldn’t change the situation. He couldn’t compete in big time.

    • zxcvb

      I have nothing more to add. Same old stuff Lin faces.

      He’s best player on the floor for CHA, but if he misses a few shots (like everyone in the league), he’s benched. And if he plays AMAZING…he’s benched to give someone else more stats.

    • DaBoss

    • sport

      Even when Lin plays well he only gets 20+ minutes at most. Look at all the starters getting 34-32 minutes including Lamb who comes off the bench! Every team refuses to give Lin 32 minutes nor a starter role when he can shine the brightest.

    • LAJane

      No to how you start out great and then take it a little too far. Do you HAVE to go to the extreme of “career backup”?

    • LinLinLin

      Good for HOrnets that Batum is playing SG well for now and his starting SG role is cemented. If MKG returns to play again after full rehab, he can still play SG.

      Next question, if Troy and Lamb are shooting lights out and they are natural shooters, will LIn be perennial backup to Kemba? Looks like it then will Lin be happy just by staying in the NBA playing for a non-playoffs team and never be voted to All-Stars, no ring?

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Don’t think about hot plays. Kemba wasn’t but he was still in the game. Cliff’s choice is really getting more peculiar to me. He chose to play Kemba, Lamb. Looked at their stat: Kemba 36:48 6-19 16 pts; Lamb 32 4-13 12 pts.

    • heart

      Believe not in his words but judge his actions from now on.

    • GoodDayLA

      I still think if this season doesn’t go well for Lin, he should consider opting out and going to star in the CBA. I would gladly follow him there. I know he can star in the NBA but it’s really too much politics involved.

    • zxcvb

      I’d be fine with that! Hairston should not be playing at all. And then Lin should be the 6th man as promised. Clifford is either a total dummy or Cho/MJ is making demands.

    • Joe what do you know

      Totally agree with you Joyce. I know Lin has bad nights but I won’t go all doom and gloom with it. I just can’t understand why some people seems to love letting negative energy taking themselves over….

    • Alain Gervais

      Lamb stats was better then he missed his last 3 shots

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Last game they won by taking Lamb out. This game they lost by taking Lin out.

    • zxcvb

      *eye roll*

    • DaBoss

      He does this all the time. Covers his negatives with fake positives.

    • your son’s voltaire

      yep. they can close with Lin, or Lin and Lamb, but not Lamb

    • LinLinLin

      Is Coach Clifford really on the same page with Lin for him to play his brand of basketball? Does he have faith in Lin that he can turn the momentum of the game to win it if he’s the man to lead the team?

    • Steppen03

      I’ve been High on Coach Cliff reg. Lin’s minutes up til now. Tonight, NO LIN, NO WIN. Period, it’s that simple. You don’t bench your clutch player of past two games. What happened to the Lin/Kemba duo ?? He didn’t try that long enough. Or he thinks Lamb > Lin…. ?? Smh… Go back to losing to some games….

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Lamb isn’t hot as well. His stat is 5-15 with 15 pts. Oops they changed his stat.

    • zxcvb

      It’s like he’s trying to play people when they’re cold.

      Lin only played 7m last night in the 1st half when he was hot. Tonight, he was cold and played 9m. And then he hit 2-3 in the 4Q…and was promptly pulled for more Kemba and Lamb. ???

    • sport

      If Lin goes to CBA then his career would really be over. Even Lin said if he retires from NBA he’d join his brother in Taiwan to play basketball together and he’s far from retiring.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Even Hairston is way better than Lamb.

    • LinLinLin

      Please stop this going to CBA nonsense!!!

    • GoodDayLA

      I think we are fooling ourselves that Lin will get a chance to start on this team or any other team, barring a disaster injury to Kemba that allows Lin to shine by accident. I think the sooner we come to that acceptance, the sooner this site can feel better about his achievements and not be frustrated for him.

    • Alain Gervais

      i wouldn’t go that far

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin didn’t get bench last game

    • DaBoss

      No.

    • golfhacker

      Too many drinks tonight?

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Relegate Lamb as exclusive c&s guy and he’ll be fine.

    • your son’s voltaire

      well, Clifford talked about playing a faster pace game but he’s doesn’t seem to realized some of his players aren’t exactly passing the ball or pushing it up the court

    • GoodDayLA

      there’s not enough opportunity for him to make his mark. it’s not a knock on Lin. the opportunity is simply not there. So he can’t establish himself.

    • LinLinLin

      8th or 9th doesn’t make much difference. Lin isn’t given PG role really kills the team’s chances of winning

    • zxcvb

      I wonder what’s going on in Clifford’s head. Nothing he does makes any basketball sense.

    • joyce ward

      Because that governs their lives.

    • LAJane

      This is how I’m looking at it….you have to give guys, especially the bigger contract guys, enough rope to either get with it or hang themselves before you can totally push a new agenda.

    • DaBoss

      You can fool yourself all you want.

    • cdblue10

      Since the 1st Q,Kemba already freezed Out Lin

    • GoodDayLA

      after watching decades of basketball, there are many coaches and organizations that run this way. Lin’s just stuck on a mediocre organization. I’ve seen it before. Just painful when Lin’s the one on a team like this.

    • heart

      Exactly!

    • DaBoss

      So you should stop following him if he’s that hopeless and rest easy.

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba gets 20 minutes more then Lin

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      They couldn’t wait to make Lamb a superstar for the FO to look good on signing him. But it would never work out else OKC won’t give him up. Lamb is just a lamb when time gets tough. He needs somebody to feed him for catch and shoot. Putting Lamb in his currently hold. He would sink pretty soon.

    • LinLinLin

      Lin will get his chance.

    • DaBoss

      Then stop following him.

    • zxcvb

      He’s letting Lin play his game when he’s in there — that’s an improvement from McHale and BS.

      But Lin’s playing time is laughably low. I think Cliff has orders to play Lamb (extension) and Hairston (draft pick) so Lin’s PT suffers as a result.

    • cdblue10

      Lin is a rhythm player,he needs to feel the game 1st but Kemba didn’t give him the chance to do that

    • joyce ward

      Well the Hornets lost, so we will see how they adjust

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Honestly I don’t like how Kemba played tonight. Well, hopefully this loss wakes Cliffs up with how isos don’t win games.

    • GoodDayLA

      you guys on here say I’m insane and negative but so many people here just hating on Kemba and Teammates. It’s not everyone else’s fault.

      This is the NBA where there’s a reason Russel Westbrook just ball hogs and Melo never passes and Kobe shoots till his arm tore off.

      This is a league where it’s about “me” and you have to dominate the ball and score 1 on 5.

      That’s just the way this league is unless you luck into a perfect opportunity.

    • your son’s voltaire

      and he’s twice as bad tonight. shooting 5-18

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      The shackling of Lin will go on until someone get fired.

    • sport

      Yes even when Lin plays well he doesn’t get 32 minutes yet other players can have poor games and still get to be starter. No reason why Lin shouldn’t be starting. It’s really up to Lin to get 20+ per game.

    • JoeTeam

      As people have said, no Lin no Win.

      But alas:

      JLin didn’t play well and here’s why –

      Good D on Jimmie B
      Jimmie B too long and no Cody to work with, so easy for Jimmie.

      Chicago bigs > CHA

      Hawes ineffective

      JLamb, Hawes, Al Jeff … nothing on 2nd effort on offensive boards.

      Combine all that and when Lin is in, he wasn’t able to change the game.

      Now, … he did blow by Aaron Brooks at will.
      He did ok against DRose
      DRose got revenge on Lin with a chase down.

      One of those nights – you go out there, the game isn’t going your way, and coach went another way. Coach lost.

      This just goes to say, if beating Melo is such a hard battle and so glorious, this is going to be a long season.

      I liked Batum tonight, good playing.

    • cdblue10

      Hey wazzup?

    • jakey

      I hope the crowd chants Lin’s name at their next home game. That might be the only way to get more playing time…

    • GoodDayLA

      why continue this frustration when you know he can dominate elsewhere without the BS politics?

    • DaBoss

      Then just stop following Lin and stop posting on this board.

    • LAJane

      Equally also slimes his positives with fake negatives.

    • zxcvb

      The only “consolation” is that Lin wouldn’t have played more even if he were hot from the start.

      It’s clear Clifford is playing guys the minutes he PRE-determines, not based on performance. Just look at the last game. Lin played well all game and barely cracked 21mpg…and it was for “defense” according to Cliff.

    • JoeTeam

      lamb was roaring

    • joyce ward

      Hey:)

    • LinLinLin

      So FO is Cho alone or MJ alone or both?

    • John Focker

      Kemba shot NOWHERE near WB, thus hogging not justified.

    • your son’s voltaire

      no Lin no win. also, no Cody cause Hawes is bad

    • leeda harun

      There is going to be alot of experiment…. On to the next game

    • Jim

      Think this is on clifford

    • DaBoss

      Yes – it’s a long season and there’s a long way to go.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Uhm but based on your example:
      Melo-can shoot his arm off every game-STILL NO RING
      Westbrook-can shoot his arm off every game-HE’S PLAYING WITH DURANT,STILL NO RING
      Kobe-can shoot his arm off every game-CAN’T WIN ANOTHER RING WITHOUT A SHAQ/PAU GASOL

    • Jim

      not trying to put down the coach but I think what happens here is that
      Clifford does not look to play Lin like he does Lamb
      Remember 2 games ago when Lin finished the game, he said he tried to insert Lamb but really couldnt because Lin played such good defense
      thats when I realized that they are really trying to play Lamb more and more
      Lin not so much, only when he plays so well that they cant take him out
      Lin usually gets 2nd or 3rd fewest mins

    • zxcvb

      No one knows. It used to be MJ alone…but now it’s a group effort. I think. MJ also has other personal advisors.

    • cdblue10

      I know I missed you Joyceiiii…:-)

    • LinLinLin

      He’s very intense and emotional yet made heading scratching rotations?

    • Steppen03

      Every stars will miss shots and then they will get hot again… Lin didnt get his chance to get hot.

    • GoodDayLA

      yeah good point. Beating NYC should be easy. When its that hard to beat a crappy NYC, it’s not a good sign even with Lin shining. It was too hard fought. I get that as well.

    • your son’s voltaire

      well, he’s been talking Lamb up way before that

    • Maknusia

      lets not get personal here….

    • GoodDayLA

      nobody is getting fired. Lin will just walk in the summer onto yet ANOTHER team. would be horrible but he probably will.

    • JoeTeam

      chicago are a talented team, even a brooks

    • Jim

      Oh well this is gonna be another painful year for Lin fans

    • sport

      Up to Lin to ask for the ball from other players. Can’t just stand there and hope they will pass to him.

    • Jim

      seems like it
      dont think he really wants to play Lin big minutes

    • GoodDayLA

      I never thought that highly of Chicago. I still don’t. This Charlotte team could beat them if Clifford was better at substitution patterns and played the right people.

      His randomness is annoying but it’s not going to change.

    • DaBoss

      So now you’re a prophet.

    • your son’s voltaire

      i think Lin is a way better player this year though, so that will soften the blow a bit

    • David Kim

      Only thing that Clifford kept his word is that
      “Batum will start as SG and he will be 1st or 2nd option in offense”

    • cdblue10

      He did he was free at one point when Kemba was double on 1st q..watch it again on replay of you have DVR

    • IsabeliJane*17

      Chicago a good team,as long as they have Noah.

    • GoodDayLA

      I can tell you for sure nobody is getting fired. Not Clifford at least until the end of the season. This team will hover around .500 all seasons long until rotations are fixed.

    • sport

      Lin’s minutes are by far the worst this season. Seems like no other coach besides Mike D’Antoni will ever give Lin a starter PG role with 32+ minutes even when he’s obviously the better than the starters. :/

    • JLin Fan from Australia

      Next game is home game against Portland. Will be interesting to see how the team is heading. If they play teamball, it’s a win. If isos, chances of losing is higher. Really hard to predict how this team is doing because of peculiar rotation with players. Still can’t make up of Cliff.

    • sws94

      They didn’t take Lamb out until 20 seconds left in the 4Q. Lamb played most of crunch time alongside Lin.

      Remember, Lin and Lamb are a great combination.

    • GoodDayLA

      the point is those ball hogs are the team stars with big stats and big role on the team and star of franchise. It’s a sad pattern the NBA endorses.

      I am not a fan of it. but that’s how the NBA rolls.

    • KL

      There is a Clifford scale in my head between 1 to 10. 1 for abysmal and 10 for excellent. At preseason it was 7. For the first 6 games it was around 5. Then it was 6 for the last 2 games. After this game it is at 2.

    • Alain Gervais

      You know what i won’t complain anymore. This is how it will be and have been the last 3 years. Something is always off. Lin will not get the right minutes all year. Hornets will miss the playoffs. i Think Lin will get pretty good stats despite this fact. Im becoming numb to stuff like this. Lamb will get all the opportunity in the world. Someone always comes from the back of Lin and all of a sudden becomes the teams darling. Ive seen all this before. 1st Melo wanting his team back then harden being traded right before the season starts. The following years Bev pops his ugly head up. Then I forgot the scum who was the “head of snake” and last but not least Clarkson the first Asian backcourt takes Lin out. Another year another man come in to take Lins minutes. Lamb is that guy. Cant even play 6th man anymore lol GEEZZZ!!!!!!

    • DaBoss

      oh …ok.

    • LinLinLin

      Lin is definitely a much improved player compared to the last 3 years. I’m not worried about Lin’s performance just the head scartching subbing and erratic PT really kill my hope for the Hornets to advance deep in the off season.

    • GoodDayLA

      Kemba understands boxscore matters. NBA is all about stats.

    • sws94

      Good summary. It took a team POV and we should do that more here.

    • GoodDayLA

      I mean he got 16 minutes. Only 5 less than NY game. If he gives Lin any more, Kemba will revolt against Clifford.

    • Hope

      Lin played well.

    • Alain Gervais

      Good defense. not rewarded

    • LinLinLin

      Ok, I will watch the game later.
      Thanks!

    • DaBoss

      Yes, we can count.

    • JoeTeam

      noah, and i watch bulls for mirotic. he’s what kam is not, yet.

    • GoodDayLA

      Lin literally has to shoot 90% every game and play lights out. It’s his only way out. To create a discussion why a guy playing so insanely is unfairly benched.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      In case you forgot,the ultimate goal here is the LARRY O’BRIEN TROPHY.Any star power is out when the trophy is in talks.The closer you are to getting a trophy,the more money rolls in.

    • Lx

      I don’t understand what Cliff is doing. Hornets won’t win without Lin on the court.

    • GoodDayLA

      so LinLinLin is wrong there is erratic PT for Lin.

    • Linzen

      Guess who has the same FG% as JLin, but played almost 35 minutes? SMH

    • GoodDayLA

      the real concern now is that we can see Lin will not close games regularly. I think that is the true fear for Lin fans now.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin taking Low pay to bet on himself may be a mistake. Clearly he cant seem to get any opportunity.

    • KL

      Honestly I don’t think Clifford has changed or anything like that. It just takes time to read his real intentions.

    • Jim

      He is i think he will end up 10-12ppg in 22mpg and get out of charlotte

    • LinLinLin

      I want Lin to be happy.
      Is he happy after this game?

    • sws94

      Yes. Tonight I’m not pleased with Clifford’s handling of Lin. Lin should have stayed in after that Rose foul call. He was trying to steal and tie up the ball, it was an aggressive defensive play. Kemba wasn’t shooting efficiently and made a number of terrible plays. He also played a lot of minutes. Lin was beginning to heat up.

      Lamb for rebounding? Maybe? Kemba can’t not finish tonight due to ego. So, go with Lin as he has been doing. Lamb is not a finisher, he doesn’t have the defense or that finisher savvy yet as a player.

    • Hope

      Bulls took out the short pg right away the minute lin droves by him. Chicago zoned in on Lin.

    • Chopz

      The fact is this: the Charlotte Hornets don’t have enough firepower without Lin. Like everybody is saying, no lin no win. Clifford is gonna have to get it through his thick skull that Mr. 4th quarter Jeremy Lin will make something good happen if he’s in the game. Continue keeping him out at the end, and you will continue losing every single time. Stay tuned …..

    • David Kim

      dont thinks so

    • Jim

      He barely cheered for the team today
      Looked pissed

    • kauaiblue

      How did he do??

    • sws94

      OK. Don’t agree.

    • Guest

      God will take care of Lin. There will time when Lin will shine. God will create the opportunity for him.

    • Alain Gervais

      Its amazing how much opportunity Kemba gets

    • GoodDayLA

      well the truth is he is not playing well enough. Clifford cannot stick his own neck out there to play Lin over Kemba and others unless Lin is on fire or playing out of this world.

    • DaBoss

      I guess you aren’t fearful then.

    • LinLinLin

      I am not happy either if he isn’t happy.

    • Alain Gervais

      All he has to do is play him over Lamb

    • your son’s voltaire

      got 18 opportunities tonight

    • JoeTeam

      my j-team name.

    • GoodDayLA

      I think God already did when ILnsanity happened.

    • Lx

      2-7 shots. Played great defense. Didn’t play much at all, only 16 measly minutes.

    • DaBoss

      whatever you say …

    • LinLinLin

      rightfully he isnt happy

    • GoodDayLA

      Lin is a PG, not SG.

    • Alain Gervais

      37 minutes. lol when was the last time Lin got 37 minutes

    • sport

      Except Lamb got contract extension. Lin should’ve asked for a bigger contract 2 Mil bench player won’t be valued over those with bigger contracts.

    • Steppen03

      I’m lost… Lin playing behind Lamb… I CAN’T take this. Playing behind Kemba is already painful but … Huh, …. No Lin, No Win. Period. Guess the coach or FO want to lose 10-20 games before they wake up to the Truth. If they don’t ever wake up and smell the coffee Then please trade Lin to someone that values him more. Please, I beg…

    • Jim

      at least 2 years ago

    • sws94

      That’s true. Lin wasn’t pleased being removed in the 4Q and he didn’t really cheer hard for the team. Of course, there wasn’t that much to cheer for. Charlotte never got ahead in the closing minutes or even tied.

    • Alain Gervais

      You telling me Lamb play better defense then Lin. He more then held his own

    • JoeTeam

      they needed better plan … bigs bulls had it tonight. not much inside.

    • your son’s voltaire

      while playing with the Reno Bighorns

    • Jim

      We all know these coaches dont learn

    • Alain Gervais

      In houston maybe the timberwolves over time game where he scored 30.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      The stats of Lamb goes down with increasing minutes.

    • LinLinLin

      Let the losing streak starts early and they have LIn play major role and minutes then only the team has a chance to get into the playoffs.

    • JoeTeam

      why? the point is to move on with a good k.

    • Hope

      Lin wasn’t forcing anything tonight. He played well and under control.

    • DaBoss

      Don’t even go there.

    • heart

      Cliff thought Kemba was able to stop Rose and Aaron… Wrong!

    • Jim

      McHale inserted Lin when team was in trouble
      now Clifford doesnt look to play Lin more than 17mins a game

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin plays so little if he plays great he won’t score 30 points because if he scores 30 in 25 minutes you’d better just call him the MVP

    • sport

      Except which coach would treat Lin fairly. Lin’s been on 5 different teams and coaches with all having bias and politics against him.

    • GoodDayLA

      Lin has never been close to that. Not even close. Charlotte is not getting close to that either.

      Even if Lin was on Cavs or Spurs or Warriors playing 5 minutes a game winning the title, that means nothing.

      We simply disagree.

      What Damian Lillard is doing is an example of how the NBA works. He ball hogs, shoots 11-34 sometimes and gets 42 points. He forced out LMA and now is the face of the franchise.

      That is how the NBA works.

    • leeda harun

      let see if clifford thinks that way. I am afraid that maybe they see lin as a role player not a star player

    • Jim

      when every one got up at the end he was sitting down
      I barely see Lin this discouraged but i think he was more frustrated with his own play more than anything

    • Alain Gervais

      Yea thing have gotten worse year by year. Even though Lin is getting better

    • Steppen03

      Lin will not get his 30+ points on this Hornets team with this kind of PT. At least, we got to see those in Houston.

    • Jim

      Im not happy if Lin isnt grtting the mins he deserves

    • LinLinLin

      Good to hear that. Thanks

    • JoeTeam

      his unit let him down so coach tried something else.

    • sport

      Except there will be manyy games where he’d only get 15-18 minutes. Unless Lin can score 20+ with such lose usage it’ll be difficult for him to shine. He’s gotta look to score every opportunity he gets when on the floor.

    • Jim

      funny how the NBA works

    • kittyhead

      Lin never has a chance to get a core players treatment-learn and play through mistakes or slump on court. His leash is always shortest. He tries to play teamball but it won’t work in NBA. Even PB could get the treatment.

    • Alain Gervais

      I cant believe lin took a pay cut for this

    • Hope

      I am hoping lin is traded to NY. He fits better in big market.

    • sport

      Been saying since Houston, bigger contract guys are valued over lower contract ones. Lin should’ve asked for more money!

    • GoodDayLA

      I think Lin knows Kemba is a weak starting PG and thought he could supplant Kemba. Clifford gave him the feel it was possible.

      But the reality is far from it. And Lin will be in a tough spot.

    • leeda harun

      maybe on nets team but nets is a tanking team

    • guest

      I want to know who in the NBA is behind Lin’s marginalisation…I want to skinz him/them if I could.
      MOD you can delete the post if you find it offensive!

    • sport

      Not with Melo and Dolan still there, forget it.

    • JoeTeam

      example of lin being let down … he pushed an awesome fast break to lamb. easy 1-1 slam or layup. lamb let himself get jammed in traffic when it was open space.

    • kittyhead

      Bad coaches and GM.

    • Lx

      o____o too extreme hahaha

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      It’s for the signing of $21m. You have to make the signing look good. So they inflat Lamb’s minutes but the response gets worse. The more minutes they give Lamb, the worse the result. They even want to make him the hero by giving him the last shot. It didn’t work!!!!!!!!

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      Even Byron Scott gave Lin more minutes than Clifford.

    • Alain Gervais

      He got a choke hold on it

    • guest

      Just want to vent!

    • Alain Gervais

      LOL

    • Lx

      screw bs and his bs.

    • leeda harun

      i know. There is no perfect team.

    • GoodDayLA

      he’s not going to do enough in 15-20 MPG to move onto a good contract. He is not doing anything new that the NBA has not seen before. It’s been more of the same.

      good game, 2 bad game, 2 forgettable game, 2 ok game, bad game, 2 really good games, bad game, ok game , ok game, good game, ok game, good game.

      NBA seen it before. Nothing will change for Lin.

    • GoodDayLA

      its not Kemba’s job to let Lin shine. It’s Lin’s job!

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Lin will opt out.

    • leeda harun

      Getting above 500 is not that easy…more competitive team in the east now

    • GoodDayLA

      I’m serious. I have no problem with it. I will watch the CBA for the first time in my life if he goes there.

    • kittyhead

      But he DNPed Lin.; )

    • GoodDayLA

      the only way is if something serious happens to Kemba via injury.

    • Chopz

      If a player has been mainly responsible for getting you the last 2 wins – Jeremy Lin, you would think that you would play that player in the 4th quarter to try to get a 3rd win in a row. Sounds like common sense to most of us, but apparently not to Clifford.

    • JoeTeam

      ok as you say. i dont want it that way tho.

    • GoodDayLA

      Clifford is not playing at all costs to win. He has to play politics and also make sure he doesn’t alienate the team just to cater to Lin.

    • DaBoss

      So now you think you know what Jeremy knows.

    • Rick Johnson

      On the bright side Lakers lose again. Now 1-8. LOL

    • your son’s voltaire

      just like last year. Lin plays great then gets marginalized in the next game

    • sport

      Almost forgot Lin has an Opt-Out clause for 2nd year so if Hornets don’t work out he can sign with another team.

    • DaBoss

      Not the truth.

    • Lx

      They are going for a record.

    • Alain Gervais

      Idk this is the 4 coach now who really don’t trust Lin all that much.

    • David Kim

      One thing i am sure is that closing 4th qt with Lamb will not work..may be some games but hornets will lose lots of game.
      in 4th qt, defense is a lot tighter than first 3 qts..
      Coach will realize later that Lin must close 4th qt in every games…
      if he can’t realize that he gotta check his basketball IQ….

    • CJSHYY

      I know I feel so bad about it. Not again. So Kemba is not happy… Today’s his time to show he can win but he can’t do it just like last season.

    • kittyhead

      Great job for BS! Please keep him for another 3years!

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      Exactly….It looks like Jeremy is under a very short leach….If the opposition team start scoring and Lin’s man scores a few baskets, Lin quickly gets taken out for Kemba..

      While Lin started cold, 0-4..in the second half, he shot 2-3..so maybe if he had gotten an additional 4-5 minutes, he could had score more.

    • Chopz

      Eventually Lamb will brick so many shots, he can build a house. If you don’t reel him in, he’ll shoot you out of the games like Kemba’s doing now.

    • your son’s voltaire

      Kemba was playing like doodoo and chucking yet Clifford plays him 37 minutes. zero accountability. bad coaching

    • Rick Johnson

      At the trade deadline he can say he’s going to opt out and and demand a trade. Hornets would lose him anyways the following year and maybe Hornets could get a 2nd round pick for him. He could go to a contending team that needs a PG like New Orleans.

    • grover chang

      Missed the game. Saw the box score and minutes. By the numbers seemed like Lin had a bad game. Came here to check the mood. See there are more things to be frustrated about. Somedays the clock is turned back and we have Linsanity. Somedays the clock is turned back and we have PTSD. Not even surprised.

    • Alain Gervais

      Ty lawson 0-5 in 29 minutes. ohh the opportunity everyone has

    • DaBoss

      Says the person with inside knowledge of what is going on in the Hornets organization.

    • your son’s voltaire

      coach is showing he’s not a very good coach at all. he wants to close out the game with Lamb but Lamb plays awful defense and needs Lin to feed him the ball but he doesn’t want to close with Lin

    • Rick Johnson

      I didn’t see much dribble penetration by Kemba. They got a bunch of guys trying to get a 3 but Kemba didn’t draw the defenses in to get clean looks for the shooters. But then even if he did he’d just run into a tree. They need a PnR big to go in with him who he can drop it off to.

    • CJSHYY

      I don’t know it’s Cliff or the top, today just tried to make Kemba happy. smh! Always the same like Rox. One good game then bad game again. smh!

    • GoodDayLA

      its self evident.

    • DaBoss

      Not really.

    • David Kim

      Even Mchale let lin play more than 28 mins.. What makes Clifford not to give Lin more than 28mins??
      Why????

    • GoodDayLA

      politics

    • Whitman Lam

      Lawson can do no wrong for the Rockets. That’s why Clutch fans has the Jeremy Lin thread, so they can hate on Lin to feel better about themselves.

    • David Kim

      there was politics in houston too…

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      It would take the Hornets several more heart breaking losses before they find out what Lamb is made of. He’s a lamb; that is it.

      The Hornets think they got lucky by having Lamb from The Thunder. The Thunder could have kept him rather than Dion Waiters.OKC chose Reggie Jackson, Dion Waiters ahead of him during almost over a 2 years span. The experiment has failed. The rushing of Lamb to the starting minutes has proved to be a failure! Nobody could cover for his softness in this game.

    • Alain Gervais

      Its mostly the strong hold Kemba has on the starting minutes 36 minutes a game. Then add the Lamb the usual sneak behind Lins back and take his role

    • Chopz

      Whatever. Rockets ain’t goin anywhere. Speak these 3 words and they’ll be shaking in their boots: Golden State Warriors.

    • Steppen03

      So, politics IS: Not care about winning ?? Cater to Kemba, Al, Nic, and now Lamb – let’s see who I’m missing… ?? Oh, yeah, the biggest acquisition (MJ’s ) ? Guess, losing trumps politics then.

    • IsabeliJane*17

      I don’t look at basketball like you do.I don’t even hog basketball stars like you do.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      Chao and Clifford.

    • GoodDayLA

      he was paid and brought over to be a starter. here, he is a low paid backup and being used like one. he is lucky to get off the bench.

    • sws94

      He’s not a lamb. He’s a good scorer. He’s fine. He’s not a big defensive player.

      I think you know you have a problem with Clifford. If Clifford played Lin 40 minutes you wouldn’t care about Lamb, would you?

    • GoodDayLA

      yes now you are starting to understand.

    • GoodDayLA

      he is a cheap 2 million dollar safety net if Kemba goes down. No way he is getting traded.

    • DaBoss

      Well if you’re frustrated then just stop following Lin. He has plenty of supporters who are not fair weather fans.

    • Lx

      GO GSW!!!! woo

    • occupatio

      rockets are going to lose this game. down 10 with 4 min left

    • Uh-Oh

      Doesn’t matter where he is, because that’s the not the issue and the cause of whatever you are seeing now.

    • Goodday

      Where did you hear this?

    • sws94

      I think you guys are missing the issue. If Lin plays with direction, coaches play him. When he plays without that authority and direction, other PGs are chosen above him. If he plays less strong D than coaches think he’s capable of, other guys are chosen above him. But it changes game to game. I really think coaches want to sense Lin is confident and has direction. They don’t trust him when they don’t see it and I don’t think that’ll change. That is just how coach’s act.

      Lin played not great today. Let’s hope he plays great next game. I thought he may have a quiet game but it was quieter than I thought it would be.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      In the past Lin would have a bundle of turn overs but today he made 2 steals and no turn overs playing just 16 minutes. The sign of maturity of not forcing the game. It’s still a long season. Things will pan out shortly in this league.

    • Chopz

      We love watching Lin on the hornets but we love them dubs too.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      Lin doesn’t have to be treated like a star…All he needs is to treat him fairly and give him at least 25minutes…Lin is averaging 13 point while playing about 21 minutes per game…this stat alone should be enough to give him more time.

    • GoodDayLA

      Just because I’d like to see Lin in greener pastures does not make me a fair weather fan. It takes a real fan to say he’d watch Lin play in the CBA.

    • Whitman Lam

      Yeah, but the drawback is, he’s not being aggressive in making plays or getting to the FT line. Just drive and kick to teammates for a contested 3.

    • cdblue10

      I was about to believe that Lin had found his home but now I have my doubts.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      The hard fact is closing games with Lin works for the team but closing out with Lamb has shown nothing.

    • DaBoss

      No, not really.

    • sws94

      Didn’t set the offense up. I think that’s why Clifford wasn’t high on him tonight. Problem is, didn’t have Zeller that plays a big role in it.

    • John Focker

      Sure, but then all the teamball talk becomes hypocritical.

    • DaBoss

      Not true.

    • xeroid

      Who other than Batum played great to day? Lin played excellent defnse tonight, much better than Lamb who got 2 times the minutes.

    • David Kim

      i think one of the problem is that coach doesn’t let lIn play freely as PG.
      In lots of offense sets, coach tells give the ball to Batum or Lamb.
      Lin looks at the coach more than before. he sometimes looks uncomfortable and doesn’t know what to do…

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      You have missed the point. Ever since the signing of $21m extension, Lamb becomes the first one to sub in the game and won’t be taken out until the game is on the wire and Clifford wants to win because this is his contract year. Today is special, Lamb is called upon to close out a game and he’s even given a shot that could win the game for the Hornets over his mediocre performance.

      Lamb has size, the look, the measurements such as arm span, and shoots gracefully at leisure. Chao and Clifford believe that giving him the minutes would make the GM and the FO look good signing him. Too bad he had sucked big time. He has never shown anything at the clutch in NBA. The last 3 seasons, he just sat comfortably in his backup role and has never been used big time and there is not a thing that supports that he can do it now.

      In fact taking him out in the 4 led to game winning. This time, Lamb was left to finish a game with starter minutes and the play for him to be the hero, he simply blew it.

    • zxcvb

      Can’t blame Lin when he’s not allowed to play significant minutes or even regular minutes. No one in the league can succeed under these conditions — being benched for missing a few shots while playing great D and heating up in the 4th.

      Lin playing great this season despite impossible circumstances. Give him 34mpg and then you can bash him.

    • zxcvb

      Cho made his choice of Lamb over Lin. A major disaster in the making when Lin leaves and Lamb plays like he always does w/o Lin to protect him. Tonight Lamb was junk minus a few layups created by others.

    • CJSHYY

      The problem it’s not Lamb. It’s Kemba. I don’t think he’s happy about got benched vs NYK in 4Q. Don’t know it’s Cliff’s own idea for Lin’s min today or from top. But this is from Lin’s cousin allen Lu on FB:”I’m glad in the end we ended up w Jeremy in Charlotte. Even then the compensation doesn’t match the talent but that’s not the most important thing. Let’s just get some Wins and good team basketball.”

    • BobbyH

      16 minutes, 8th man. Wow, Clifford, good job. This is how you reward a player that always plays his heart out on both ends, compared to other so called star players. You are really really better than BS in acting. At least BS won’t hide his intention, only with different lame excuses.

      Just hope MDA get a job next year and Lin follows there. After this, I don’t see which coach Lin can trust.

    • occupatio

      pretty depressing when you look at where this is going. the writing is on the wall. lamb is going to get his minutes now, and kemba isnt going to lose many minutes. and batum. there isnt any math that gets lin anything close to acceptable playing time.

    • xeroid

      Lamb is a poor defensive player. He can be a good offensive player if not defended closely. It’s not by chance that when Lamb played with Lin, with Lin drawing defenses/double team to him. that Lamb scored well.

    • Yascar

      He posted this today?

    • sport

      It’s obvious that Kemba and Batum can chuck misses every game yet still get long PT 32-36 minutes while Lin has to score and play amazing only to get 21minutes!

    • sws94

      You are “passing the buck”. This isn’t about Lamb. You’re scapegoating Lamb. Lamb is Lin’s team mate and the other “Jeremy” off the bench that add firepower. I like what both bring and I like them on the floor together. So do most Charlotte fans that are talking on the boards.

      When Lin doesn’t do something that is *perception* you blame others. That isn’t going to help Lin. Batum, Kemba or Lamb aren’t the problem. A coach wants to see a player have command and direction. Lin has it in droves sometimes and he has very little of it sometimes else. That’s a reality. And I feel that is why this particular coach is not playing Lin sometimes. He sticks with Lin when Lin shows it even when Lin’s shots aren’t falling because the team is responding to him. If the team isn’t responding to Lin, Lin has to fix that. Nobody else.

    • GoodDayLA

      don’t tell that to people here. they will call you a troll.

    • Whitman Lam

      There was no offense. Just guys looking for their own shot.

    • Chopz

      For all of us concerned about lack of minutes for Lin, imagine what it would be like if Michael Kidd-Gilchrist didn’t get hurt. Yikes.

    • CJSHYY

      I don’t know I got it from a group posted it today.

    • GoodDayLA

      I personally suspect that when it appears all hope is lost and Lin is done, Kemba will get injured and the Hornets will be force to turn to Lin once again. Lin always rolls that way.

    • sport

      MDA is the only coach willing to start Lin and play him 32+ starter minutes.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      After a few games like this, the coach would be under hot seat. The Eastern Conference is so competitive right now, it’s not easy to secure a berth in the playoff. Could the Hornets say for sure they can beat out the Bucks, Pacers, Pistons and the Magic for the 8th berth?

      It wouldn’t take long for a team to fall to the level of 76ers and the Nets.

    • CJSHYY

      So happy Den won over Rox tonight. I am glad Rox & Hornets both lose today. Ya!

    • DaBoss

      Not true.

    • GoodDayLA

      MDA wanted to start Deron Williams. Don’t get too excited.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i knew this was going to happen. no zeller means no big to pnr with. means lin will suck. the whole 2nd unit stank really. yeah lamb hit some shots but he didnt get to the rim like before. it was all jump shots all night on both unts. really wished psycho t played instead of frank. frank isnt ready. too weak down low.

    • sws94

      Tonight wasn’t Lin’s night. Kemba, as I’ve said before, had direction. He made terrible decisions, was inefficient, but he had direction. It’s something that a coach wants to see.

      Lin’s defense tonight wasn’t enough for Clifford to keep him on the floor. He needed to get back in the game and score, not just preserve a lead or a see-saw game. I thought Clifford pulled Lin too early but I understand what he was seeing in this game from Lin.

      The Lin impact wasn’t there tonight. I think he was finding it, but apparently Clifford thought it best to go with others.

    • GoodDayLA

      I guarantee you the front office is annoyed with Clifford for not playing Frank even more.

    • CJSHYY

      Maybe Lin knew in advance he will play short section today… not bible tweet?

      https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/665386374602731520

    • GoodDayLA

      Rockets are a joke. They just got luck last year. This crappy version is what I always knew they were. Payback takes a long time though. so much patience is necessary.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lol

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      This is a long season so only the toughest player could survive. Lamb is not tough enough even if he’s given the security of his $21m contract.

    • BobbyH

      Hornets defense get better as season goes? I don’t think so.

      And the offense is so predictable that it is either Walker ISO, Al post up or Batum/Lam at the top shooting 3. Where is ball movement? Where is team-ball?

      Talk is really the exact opposite of scores in NBA, cheap. Only scores is the currency. Not win or team-ball.

    • sws94

      I think first unit played with more direction. At times, the 2nd unit had some. But not enough.

    • DaBoss

      Well, you know what they say … if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck …

    • John Focker

      Everyone talks teamball, only the Spurs play it.

    • CJSHYY

      Rockets has the same record like Hornets?!

    • InfiniteWisdom

      not gonna say he’s a bust, but it has always been obvious his body isnt nba ready. i still want to see him replace hawes and play with zeller as stretch 4. this game, he played with hawes and there simply wasnt any physical presence down low.

    • CJSHYY

      Haha! For the first time I agree w him.

      https://twitter.com/RedNinetyFour/status/665386941093818368

    • occupatio

      so im a troll? haha
      there are worse things than being a so-called troll, which i am not.

    • David Kim

      i am still positive that Lin plays well this season…

    • leeda harun

      No postgame interview?

    • Alain Gervais

      He will but

    • Alain Gervais
    • Alain Gervais

      Look up

    • Chopz

      Warriors too

    • DaBoss

      Not you.

    • leeda harun

      thank you

    • I see things the same way with you about how coaches see JLin now.

      They just don’t have the same level of trust with us YET in what JLin can do if he didn’t show the aggression early. The outcome is actually ideal that JLamb got his chance to be the hero and failed with 2 missed 3s.
      0-5 shooting in the past 2 min with Batum and
      0 FTs for CHA vs 6 FTs for the Bulls in the 4th. In 5pt loss, that did matter a lot.

      They can use JLin’s ability to drive & draw fouls but didn’t.
      JLin would definitely need to get going early to earn coaches’ trust, despite missing Zeller & having bad spacing with the 2nd unit.

      So JLin would need to continue to figure out the puzzle on how to score early to have a chance to close the game.
      It’s a good challenge for him.

    • GoodDayLA

      i don’t expect Lin to close games regularly.

    • John Focker

      Fair enough, close second. Still very Curry-centric.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      A few losses like this losing close would change everything. I have been telling everybody that Lamb is not ready for the big time. He has been given good contracts sitting on the bench for the 3 seasons that Lin has gone through h*** like trainings. Despite people believe that players with the look and the physical features of big players will succeed, many players has failed big time with very impressive heights, wing spans and good shootings when left alone.

      I believe that Lin will slug it out and getting back to his position to lead the bench. Given over 32+ minutes in this close game, Lamb did not help his case. He was given every chance but has failed so far except the time when Lin also played well.

    • occupatio

      getting 20 min a game is not a good season, no matter how he plays, even if he plays superb.

    • GoodDayLA

      he said nothing.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      cant complain about minutes tonight. lin played bad. he just isnt the same player if he doesnt have a big that rolls to the rim. pnr is his game. last year playing with boozer/hill = this year playing with hawes/frank = bad jeremy. last year playing with davis = this year playing with zeller = good jeremy. this is obvious by now.

    • Alain Gervais

      not really any good questions

    • GoodDayLA

      I don’t think Frank is a bust. Frank is like a stretch 4

    • GoodDayLA

      Rockets are a product of ineptitude by Daryl Morey.

    • occupatio

      theres nothing kemba did tonight that merits the minutes he got. unless you consider chucking and messing up fast breaks as deserving of time.

      its a not a merit system. and lin did not play so badly as to ‘deserve’ only 17 minutes.

    • xeroid

      Lin’s facial expression was not happy. he said, we just got ready if our number is called, when asked about second unit meshing.

    • CJSHYY

      It became Batum’s interview not Lin?

    • CJSHYY

      Did Lin look unhappy or…? No video now.

    • FSW

      I know that Lin is only a bench player, but he is not a machine. It sometimes takes him most of a game to warm up. He has earned by his play last few games to play through rough patches. Every athlete will go thru them, none of them will tell you that they gAined confidence and got better by being benched vs playing thru rough games. If you really think that Lin only deserves minutes if he plays really well then explain Hawes, pj and other hornets who don’t deserve the minutes they get.
      Let’s face it these are double standards, and making excuses for bad behavior in the guise of reasonable coaching strategy is missing the real issue.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      cliff literally said it wasnt a merit system so nobody can be salty. do i agree with this personally? mostly no, but its not like he’s lying…

    • InfiniteWisdom

      yes, but playing with hawes is a joke of a front court. going up vs noah and gibson? this was surely a loss once cody was a no go…

    • Chopz

      The way he’s shooting, I’ll take Curry-centric all day. Hey maybe we can trade Lamb to the warriors and have a Lamb Curry-centric offense : )

    • GoodDayLA

      Holberg got smarter and realized you cannot use midget to guard Lin.

    • GoodDayLA

      Frank should be with Zeller.

    • GoodDayLA

      yeah Frank is soft. Needs t o be with Tyler or Zeller.

    • John Focker

      Not saying Curry-centric ain’t good, just that it’s not fully teamball.

    • Alain Gervais

      In the last bulls game Lin played 19 minutes even in a blow out. When ever we face a team that has a tall SG and he is regarded as a superstar. Lin will likely not play much. Lin has to adjust to that

    • GoodDayLA

      flat

    • GoodDayLA

      what’s he expect? shot 0-4. Needs to be perfect like a robot. Of course I jest.

      I hope Lin takes his talents to CBA. and says h*** to the NBA. The gap is not that big anymore. And Lin can improve CBA basketball.

    • Pete Roces

      Don’t expect too much from Lin, his window to excel is getting smaller day by day…not his fault but entirely on NBA not allowing an Asian to dominate a black/white sport. Unless MDA returns, Lin will never ever bring back Linsanity.

    • CJSHYY

      I even don’t know why Lin needs to do this interview? He played less min among 9 players? Why not just let Kemba did the talk?

    • occupatio

    • BobbyH

      You meant MDA?

    • John Focker

      Perfect way to be labeled quitter.

    • It’s a good adjustment by Hoiberg not to let Lin have his ways with Brooks.

      JLin got messed up by playing with Walker in the last 2.5 min of Q1 but also struggled trying to organize offense & get to the rim covered by DRose.

      Just missing Zeller very much in the 2nd unit & didn’t score enough to make coaches trust him to close the game. JLamb had his chance and failed. They might give him more tries before realizing he’s just a jumpshooter and can’t draw fouls to impact game like JLin & Harden could in crunch time.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i dont understand why its so hard for cliff to understand: al, zeller, psycho t are your interior bigs and marv, hawes, frank are your stretch bigs. NEVER play 2 from the same category for long stretches. simple stuff really…

    • CJSHYY

      I think unless Lin back to NYK otherwise no more that Linsanity crazy media period again. I don’t think Lin will stay w Hornets & since he’s just one year deal. He always will be the last one on court… smh!

    • heart

      Yep. Cliff is being micro-managed on Lin’s plays only. I don’t see KW or NB have to look to the court side to get ‘permission’.

    • orLinaryjoe

      Just not credible. Especially coming from B.Scott. Lin was playing ok. His shot was not going in at first. Kemba had a longer leash during the Knicks game and he was horrible. Politics.

    • Hope

      I thought Lin played well. He played under control. He didn’t get to play much pg role today.

    • GoodDayLA

      by whom? Lin haters?

      NO real Lin fan will call him a quitter.

      I know Lin will never leave the NBA until no more contracts, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    • GoodDayLA

      asians watch his videos.

    • CJSHYY

      But he didn’t do much on court today? So just let him showed up to his fans he’s OK?!

    • Acbc

      Since Lin has declared that he trust Clifford, I also must have faith in Clifford as well until he proves to be as spineless as the lot of you think he is. So now that one game after 2 in which Clifford gave Lin a run to make a case for more minutes and maybe even to start, everyone is calling his head.

      IMO, there is a battle between the coach and the the FO for how the team needs to be run. I believe that CHO or CHO and MJ are wanting their own picks and expensive signings to shine and forcing Clifford to play the “stars”.

      BTW, this has been already been publicly documented between Phil Jackson and Jerry Krause. Krause was so jealous of Phil that he fired Phil because he felt he didn’t get enough credit for the Bull’s success. Krause was warned by Jordan that he’d retire if Phil was let go. The rest is history.

      Lin has been victim already to another power hungry GM in Darrell Morey who hired a coach who is nothing more than a puppet that follows his orders. You can also add BS to a puppet coach to Mitch and Kobe as well.

      Last game I suggested that Clifford was making a statement to CHO and MJ by playing the bench in the last quarter to prove a point. He had let the starters play most of the first half to stick up the place then put in the second unit at the end to win the game. This game was FO making Clifford play their people.

      The recent long blog I wrote about how Lin has had no luck in any organization he’s been a part of since MDA. We have grown used to seeing totally irrational moves by coaches that makes absolutely no sense. From what we have learned from 3 different organizations, we can see with 20/20 in the rear view mirror that each one of them had multiple personal reasons that caused them to make these irrational moves.

      The politics behind the scene is in the shadows but the facts are in the rotations and the noticeable lack of play time for the star of the last 2 games. We’ve seen how GMs would risk even losing Jordan to promote their own pride. Morey also got rid of Lin for the same reason. Mitch and Kobe also got rid of Lin to make sure Kobe was the only star. IMO opinion, it’s not Clifford pulling the strings on Lin’s minutes, it someone in the FO. Clifford wants to win, but his hands are tied. Clifford is doing everything he can to get the fans on his side and it’s working. Clifford is letting the stars enough rope to hang themselves with their bad play. The buzz is calling for Lin to have more playtime. Our only hope is that the FO will finally lose enough to let Clifford run the team his way.

    • GoodDayLA

      personally, I think so yes.

    • DaBoss

      Oh ye of little faith … SMH

    • Hope

      After he hit the shot to stop the bleeding, I felt he started to get going. But he was subbed out. If he played the entire 4q, the outcome would have been different.

    • GoodDayLA

      I have said what you said here for a while but got hated on for it. I do not believe Clifford is the one hating on Lin.

    • Chopz

      Exacty what i was thinking and was gonna write, you beat me to it. The bulls were on a 9-0 run til lin hit his shot.

    • sws94

      Paul made a lot of the same points I’m trying to make.
      Kemba can get to the place he wants to on the court. Cliff is familiar with Kemba and knows Kemba can run the plays. Lin wasn’t showing he could get to where he wanted to on the floor consistently or run the plays.
      Lin gave up height to Butler or others, so it didn’t make sense to go small.
      Lin is not as good without Zeller.
      On to the next game.
      Lin wasn’t getting to the FT lines, the CHA wasn’t getting the calls.
      Offense was more stagnant with 2nd unit.

      It’s not that Lin played terribly. It’s just it’s hard to sometimes find a spot for Lin when the team is down and the matchups don’t favor his strengths.

    • Maknusia

      troll…lol…you guys are funny….lol

    • CJSHYY

      I don’t think Cliff hates Lin but just don’t trust or like the way Lin plays… too free style & just can’t under his control at all. I don’t know what Cliff said to Lin before he signed the contract but I just don’t think they like each other now.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      lin was ok on defense. on offense, he had no zeller to run pnr. he just held on to the ball while everyone ball watched. if he passed it, he never got it back. it is what it is. we’ve seen this all last year when he wasnt allowed to pnr with davis. the only problem i see is that cliff doesnt realize lin with a pnr big is much, much, much, MUCH better than with these soft stretch 4/5’s… he sould have played psycho t tonight. and franks mins should come at the expense of hawes.

      i remain VERY confident that once zeller returns, the bench will “magically” dominate again. but it isnt magic to me, instead it’s quite obvious…

    • sws94

      I’m not buying it. The Asian market is huge. The sport is dominated by black players so having Euro players and an Asian-American player come in and play well is good for the market. And China with that population and Lin’s popularity. He’s a rock star there. The black stars are still there. When Lin dominated he was all over the place.

    • grover chang

      Can you please change your avatar. Looking at BS is very upsetting.

    • sws94

      Not with Dolan there and NYK is running through Phil Jackson and coached by Derek Fisher. Nope.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i disagree. without a pnr partner he had no chance to attack the rim. hoiberg learned his lesson and took brooks out after 2 consecutive drives on the midget. the entire team settled for jumpers tonight. it would have been no different if lin was out there, he would be chucking as well…

    • DaBoss

      Stop.

    • Whitman Lam

      There was no difference except the team set picks and ran plats for Kemba, but ignored Lin on the court. Lin can get to the rim just as well as Kemba without getting it blocked like Kemba. Lin did a good job defending Butler, way better than Hairston or Batum. You don’t have to be taller than somebody to defend them.

    • sws94

      I don’t think it is that. Looking at Lin tonight and some other nights, either the second unit looked organized or not. Tonight not so much. Last game and in Minnesota it was. And Lin plays most of the 4Q and a big role in the game. I think too much little picture just Lin and Cliff thinking here. He’s coaching 10 guys in rotations, not just Lin. He looks at how the units, matchups and such go and makes decisions some of us like or don’t.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      seriously? he’s the most comical coach in the nba. you should be laughing at him like i am.

    • orLinaryjoe

      Fair enough, hear what your saying. But I agree with Grover, that Avatar and the voice does not match.

    • sws94

      I don’t think Lin would have that much touches. He goes in with Kemba, it goes through Kemba and Batum and Al down low with Marvin and him at the corners. Maybe Lin gets a steal and a fast break or something or he inbounds, but Lin wouldn’t have had any huge impact IMO tonight. Better to go with Lamb and hope he can knock down some 3s even though his defense isn’t that great.

    • Maknusia

      totally….

    • jolno

      Only watched part of the game and for the minutes I watched, Chicago really adjusted their defense tonight to make sure Lin does not go off like the last time by collapsing to him on his every drive to the basket.

      On the other hand, they dared Kemba to shoot the Hornets out of the game. With tonight’s 5/18 Kemba is shooting below 40% again this season. I mean, when you are shooting below 40% in your CAREER and your team just kept losing, one would think any sane person would stop this madness by doing something different. So far I haven’t seen much that suggests the Hornets are more interested in winning than politics.

      Now I know why the bookies in Vegas had the over/under of Hornets’ win total to be in the low 20s. Fortunately, Lin signed a one year deal so he is not stuck in a possibly horrible team. Nevertheless, I am really not optimistic on Lin’s future in the league if he can’t even crack 20 minutes in a Eastern non-playoffs team.

    • DaBoss

      No real Lin fan would suggest that he leave for the CBA.

    • Whitman Lam

      Well then why isn’t Yi or Sun Yue still in the NBA? Why does Lin get called for silly fouls, phantom fouls, and non calls ?

    • orLinaryjoe

      Wouldn’t mind Lin being a little Curry centric at this time. Hey you change your name at some point?

    • kittyhead

      Lawsons stats are amazing…: )

    • CJSHYY

      I believe this contract it’s trade off deal. If not for them agreed to let Lin plays his game he would not pick this team. His playing time for 1st half already very shot so I believe what Lin wants it’s 4Q & close game. Today’s very obviously for Kemba’s ISO day.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      yes. lin the jumpshooter isnt the lin you want. lin the attacker is the one you want and he only comes out when he plays with zeller. this should be obvious to all by now. trotting him out there with a garbage non-pnr lineup is setting him up to fail. he NEEDS a pnr big to play with, that’s why he isnt a superstar. but pair him with a pnr big and “all of a sudden” he approaches superstar level and the big “all of a sudden” looks like a beast. coincidence? not even close…

    • sport

      Except NBA can get money from China regardless of Lin. Last time I checked, Lin’s endorsements money don’t go towards the NBA.

    • sws94

      I just flat out disagree. I think Clifford is feeling things out and trying to win games. Batum is no big name, Lin is probably the biggest name of them all. Lin created a buzz and excitement in that crowd that sounded almost MSG like that I haven’t heard in that stadium before. People want to watch Lin and his spiked hair play.

      Al doesn’t have a “sexy” game nor does Batum. Kemba has some flash but people want to see Lin on the floor playing. There is no reason why Cho or MJ in their positions wouldn’t want Lin to play.

      But beyond that, if Lin can help them win, then I think they want Lin in there helping them win. I don’t even think they’ve talked to Clifford yet that much about personnel or assess personnel. That comes later I think.

    • sws94

      He’s a tandem player. Yes. And folks here want to be against everyone else on the floor because they are stealing Lin’s minutes and there’s some FO conspiracy to keep Lin’s minutes down. If Lin needs a PnR big to look like a superstar, so be it. That doesn’t change that he’s a fun exciting player and fun to watch. It’s just he needs help. And you’re right, the big also looks like a star. Ed Davis is a great example of it.

    • Hope

      They determined to trap him and not allowed lin to get going. Once lin hit that jump shot, I’m sure he can do that again. He has no problem creating the space against rose and the charging center.

    • sws94

      Can MW and Lin get some PnR working?

    • sws94

      They have good help defense. Plus, Charlotte wasn’t getting calls. Lamb got mugged a few times underneath and there were no calls. Lin gets his usual foul calls, then he gets some momentum going. Wasn’t happening this game.

    • Acbc

      It’s time to stop thinking like a boxer with 2 punches and think like a ultimate fighter than can use arms, elbows, knees and feet to fight. I believe in Lin to use all the assets properly instead of simple match ups. Matchups are for simpletons. How did Lin make the bench and rookies shine in NYC? Where are those players now with out Lin? He was entrusted by a coach who actually saw that magic. When MDA said”sometimes you just have to let them play”, he meant that Lin was doing things he couldn’t draw up yet. Lin was find people in the right places and feeding the guys who were hot.

      Last year it took Lin till February to finally understand how to play with the Lakers and he went on a string of great games until BS shut him down. Lin will do that eventually even if he isn’t starting.

    • Hope

      Lin the jump shooter ain’t bad. His fg% is really good in close game.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      can he roll to the rim and finish hard? i wanna say he’s not exactly looking for contact. zeller? dude gets flagrants thrown at him, gets busted open with elbows, etc and he keeps on trucking. he may not be the most skilled guy out there, but what he has cant ever be taught: size, athleticism, and heart. on a different note, psycho t has such a high motor, i really dont see why he cant have even a few minutes on court…

    • Rick Johnson
    • CJSHYY

      I think Lawson will go to bench soon. That’s what Harden wants…. It’s also weird… I watched last few min Rox vs Den… they didn’t pass the ball to Harden so he had to get the reb to take the shot…?

    • sws94

      Yes, high motor. Volatile sometimes. Is that keeping him off?

    • CJSHYY

      I agree… Lin started to get going but Cliff took him out? Why? Bc his playing time for tonight’s up. smh!

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i disagree, his step back is a work in progress. and even then, you’re talking about jump shots. he needs to get to the rim. layup, floater, drop off to the rolling big, dish to the corner 3, etc that’s linsanity. settling for contested jumpers is falling right into what the defense wants you to do.

      i even think the trap might not work as well if zeller rolls to the rim.

    • sws94

      Do you listen to Paul’s videos? I think Paul explains what happened today and why the coach chose Kemba tonight for so much playing time. It’s not that Paul or I agree with the coach, but his reasons make sense.

    • CJSHYY

      Good answer. So weird they didn’t even put Lin’s interview on their tweet today?!

    • Hope

      Agree to disagree. lin has clutch gene.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      aint bad, but lin pnr is elite.

    • CJSHYY

      I like Paul but I don’t agree or think what he said it’s right every time.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i think hawes’ contract is the only thing keeping him in the lineup. both frank and tyler should be ahead of him…

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      The best way a magician to trick you is he talks and talks and talks and he tells you where to look so he can really do the trick. I watch Clifford NOT listening to him. It does not matter what he said because all I care was what he does. This is where I had more respect for McHale than Clifford.

      The very day Lamb signed the extension, I was the first if not only saying Lamb will close the game and eventually he’ll start. Why did Clifford play Kemba all 1st and 3rd Q today? That’s 5 mins of Lin handling the ball. Why did Lin again today looked at the sideline for play from Cliff? After the Wolves game, he said he wanted to insert Lamb in the 4Q but found Lin played D so well, WHY? Why did he have to try? So Lin was NEVER the plan to close game? The proof was today. Lin was benched no matter how well he closed the game the night before. It does not matter how all other teams saying their concern about Lin being let loose. No it does not matter. This is dirty and lies and the politic from this coach go all the way to the front office.

      Keep your promise or Please trade Lin please.

    • sws94

      Compare Lillard to Lin. Both clutch. How does Lin make an impact compared to Lillard? You’ll find far more jump shots with Lillard. That’s how the team was playing tonight. If Kemba was Lillard, might be a W.

    • sws94

      He’s awkward and makes mind-boggling decisions.

    • sws94

      OK.

    • Hope

      Lin played well and under control. He didn’t have any TO.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I was also warning people that with Lamb new contract, Lin’s minutes will surely decline…There were some who felt that we needed more time to see and that Lin only play small minute because “they were resting him” since some of the games were blow-out.

      Resting a bench player is simply laughable, so I never understood people who believed that Clifford was simply resting him for a long season…You want to play your bench players during blow out because it is the only time they can get big minutes….Lin doesn’t need rest since he barely break 25minute per game…and Lin is not old like ginobli.

      Do you guys think Clifford was also resting Lin tonight?

    • heart

      Me too. Thought Cliff knows Lin’s game as Mr.4th qtr, guess not when it comes to Lin.

    • sws94

      Agreed. I think Clifford just didn’t like the way Lin looked and hope Lamb sunk shots so he closed. Lamb’s defense won’t have him closing games. I think he’ll go back to Lin most nights. But Lin doesn’t do enough when he plays with Kemba.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Anyone can make a record and call himself an expert. Youtube is free to post too.

    • heart

      Yep. They could have used Lin for defense like they did so many times, though Lin should also be a scoring option too for last shot moment.

    • Spot

      Sooner or later Clifford will be fired. Charlotte want to make the play-off.

      Don’t worry, everything’s gonna be alright

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Clifford is a political time management not a coach. Position by position, he plays you more if you get paid more.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I agree…Hawes is simply terrible…This guy is 27 but he moves like a 40 year old..way too slow and lambering…Bad pnr partner for Lin.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I’ve lost the respect for that guy.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      i agree that lamb will probably close out most games. i agree that after lamb “broke out” it’s his minutes to lose. but we just saw a game where both kemba and al didnt close. i dont think this is as black and white as you make it sound. if the 2nd unit of lin, lamb, zeller continues to beast, it would be dumb to not play them more. and considering his job is on the line…

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      The true was out today. Lin was not THE POINT GUARD until the second quarter. WHY? Cliff wanted to make Kemba happy from last game, period.

    • heart

      It seems like you and I and a few others saw this coming before the crowd.

    • sws94

      I don’t think Lamb will close out most games. I think Lin has a very good chance to close most games. Lamb doesn’t have the defense nor does he looks like he is the big time will a team to victory player Lin is. I think Clifford can see that. It’s just that LIn doesn’t get to do that with Kemba on the court when he’s finishing. The combination of Lin having that quality and far better defense than Lamb, I think has Lin finishing out most games or at least the chance to if he asserts himself during closing games.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      y’all have to realize that lin only played 2 games where zeller was setting all the picks for him. and in those games the 2nd unit dominated. tonight had no zeller, so the bad performance was a given. all hope is not lost. once zeller comes back the lin led 2nd unit will dominate once again.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You did maybe even before me.

    • sws94

      Lin always plays secondary guard with Kemba. Once Kemba sits, Lin runs the point.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I had made the same point a few weeks ago…The math looks dodgy at this moment….Lamb will get his minutes because the Hornets FO has to justify giving him the big contract.

      Kemba will also get his big minutes, about 32+ because they want him to make the all-star..Kemba also has a big contract that needs to be justify.

      So when you look at it closely, Lin is only guaranteed about 15 minutes..and if he’s shooting very well, he only gets about 21-22minutes…..That’s simply awful.

      I wonder whether Clifford and the Hornets lied to him just to get him to sign, knowing that Kemba had been injury prone….Lin is simply assurance policy in case Kemba gets injured.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Hope is gone. The true was disclosed. Lamb is the closer. Lin is the last to sub-in and the first out. Lin needs to play like Linsanity to have 25 min.

    • sport

      After going through 5 teams, with 4 treating Lin horribly because of politics and hidden agenda what’s so surprising if Hornets FO doesn’t think much of Lin? They only offered him 2 Million and bench role. If they were high on him they’d promise he’d be a starter. I highly suspect they signed Lin just so they can market their team better for the China preseason games.

    • kauaiblue

      Thx!

    • JLin: “(For end game situation), guys are comfortable playing with each other …
      We’re gonna stay ready … if our number is called

      Jeremy’s last statement in the post-game interview said it all. He clearly wasn’t happy that his number was not called.
      But he knew that coaches didn’t call his number due to the early struggle to get the 2nd unit going despite 2 strong games vs Wolves & MIN.

      He probably realized he’d to continue to start hot in scoring otherwise he wouldn’t get a chance to finish games. Especially as a newcomer & 1 yr rental status, he’d have to score a lot to be given as many chances as Kemba and Lamb who have long-term contracts. The level of trust from Clifford is just not there YET.

      That’s okay. JLin is strong enough so he will regroup and think of ways to get going early to earn the trust to have his number called to finish games.

      The great thing is Hornets went 0-5 in shooting (Lamb, Batum, MWilliams) in the last 2 min and no FTs in the 4th quarter. Bulls had 6 FTs in Q4, which mattered a lot in a 5pt loss. For the game Bulls had 24-31 FT and Hornets merely 10-12. Contrast that with the Knicks and Wolves game where Hornets got 28 and 27 FTAs. They clearly missed Lin’s & Zeller’s presence.
      Eventually Coach will realize they need JLin’s ability to draw fouls & draw defenders to finish games strong. JLamb is just not a game changer like Lin and Harden who can draw fouls at end of games. Jumpshooters will simply stop being effective when they can’t be a scorer.

      No Lin, No Win!
      http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/11/14/1447476001373-151113-Lin.mov-115587

    • sws94

      And if Zeller is down for any significant amounts of game? Lin needs a backup plan. And it ain’t Hawes.

    • sws94

      Yes, because Lamb closed one game and Lin closed 5. Does that really make sense?

    • heart

      We’re NOT crapping on Lin’s performance. It’s Cliff who didn’t give Lin a chance to play out in the 4th when they truly needed defense. Lin was heating up and got yanked.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You forgot Batum? Kemba was always out when Lin in but not today.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      well one thing about cliff is that it looks like he likes lamb’s size/length. there’s just no getting around that age old bias. so unless lin plays incredible defense, it’s lamb’s minutes to lose.

    • heart

      You affirmed it. I was going to give him a longer benefit of the doubt, but once he started PJ. The picture was clear.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I am looking at what happening. Lamb didn’t even play game 1. Soon the contract done, he’s the team 2 guard. Wake up.

    • Hope

      Whatever, I’m going to sleep.

    • leeda harun

      I believed in lin abiity to maximize his opportunity on the court but the coaching staff is not desperate enough to win and use lin properly

    • sws94

      That’s the narrative you’ve given yourself. Don’t tell me to wake up. That’s your opinion. Not mine.

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      He isn’t even the first to sub in the game. He can only get in when all things failed with Lamb. Without Zeller, Lin really can’t compete with most teams by himself. Perhaps it’s the drawback of being the bench player. Lin from now on has to work on his shot so that he can come in and immediately put points on the score board instead of running the type of plays that he wants to.

    • heart

      Maybe Cliff does NOT know how. Don’t let his talks fool you.

    • leeda harun

      Let see which coaches going to get fired first….BS, Mchale, george karl, clifford etc

    • InfiniteWisdom

      lin was not heating up. he hit a layup on midget brooks and hit a step back along the baseline. he didnt get to the rim much, didnt draw fouls, etc. and that’s his game. no zeller, no linsanity… im fine with him sucking without a pnr partner cuz that’s who he is. i’d get worried if he had a pnr partner and still sucked. but he hasnt. and probably wont… cuz that’s who he is…

    • sws94

      Lin looked agitated in his post-game interview. But, he’ll find his center and be ready to give his all on Sunday. He’ll be ready when his number is called. Hope Zeller is back soon.

    • yes, they thought they’d go with the hot hands to close games.
      But they’ll find out that Lamb won’t be the guy since he can’t draw fouls. He’s only a jumpshooter and sometimes he can slash. Chandler Parsons is actually 2X better in BB smarts & slashing skills than him

      To win close games, they need players like Lin and Kemba who can get fouls & get to FT line.

    • leeda harun

      now I can’t imagine when MKG back on the team…will Lin get even 17 minutes PT?

    • Unfortunately yes, he’d have to have Jamal Crawford ability to be an instant scorer first then he can orchestrate the offense. Otherwise he runs out of minutes to play

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      I sort of agree. The team is doing everything to help Lamb to succeed. Unless Lamb fails big time, Lin doesn’t stand a chance to play significant minutes in this team. That is what most Lin haters hope for. Now the $21m extension makes this a certain thing to come.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      That’s not an opinion, it’s the fact.

    • sws94

      Really, nobody on Charlotte was getting fouls. So many calls didn’t happen.

      I’m not worried about Lamb. I like Lamb as part of Lin’s team. You know, if the coach thinks Lamb can finish games due to his 3 point shooting, then he’ll use him. But I think the coach has a lot of basketball smarts and Lin is a proven 4Q player. Again, the problem is, Lin doesn’t do much with Kemba on the court. That Kemba/Lin tandem isn’t producing. And Kemba closes games.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      then he and the hornets are screwed. psycho t is a band aid solution but he’s not skilled enough or big enough to make an impact. high motor and heart can only take you so far…

      i’d love to see a trade to get rid of al and pick up an extra pnr big…

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      When Cliff told the world that he tried to insert Lamb in for Lin but because Lin played D so well, that spoke volume. Lin never was the closer since Lamb signed the contract

    • I really hope so. Lin needs his athletic big men to be fully effective.
      If not his shooting better be ready.

      He gets to see his buddy Ed Davis wearing Blazers uniform 🙂

    • Kwok Wai Lai

      He played good defense and under control. He just doesn’t have enough minutes to get his game going at a high level. Coach Clifford mentioned that it takes a certain minutes to reach the optimum game level for players. Lin won’t be given that many minutes before Lamb gets his starter minutes.

      Perhaps my wish is for Lamb to start for the team. Lin can work with Hairston better than with Lamb in the 2nd team.

    • sws94

      MKG won’t be back until near the end of the season. We’ll know a lot more by then. It’s a long season. I think a lot of people are forgetting that.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      What else can he say? His face tells all.

    • Kemba is so ball-dominant and insecure at the moment. That 2.5 min in the 1st quarter was wasted as Lin was just watching Kemba pulling 1-on-1 moves & be the PG.

      Too bad Clifford doesn’t have Pop-like authority in Spurs to enforce ball movement.
      I hope he designs plays for Kemba/Batum/Lin for end-game situation. Otherwise, they won’t ever click to win big games.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      yeah that was eye opening. however lin closing over kemba means there’s still a chance that there is a bit of a meritocracy. but to be honest the best we lin fans can hope for at this point is 20-30 minutes and him balling out with the 2nd unit. using whatever min he gets to the max. with zeller pnr we have seen that so i remain encouraged.

    • sws94

      I don’t agree. Lin is there to run the 2nd unit. Get assists, keep it flowing, play strong D. But the biggest part of Lin’s unit staying on is the scoreboard. He brings the team back they stay on like they did in Minnesota and against the Knicks. He doesn’t, he goes back to Kemba. Lamb stays on because Lamb is a scoring threat that doesn’t need to touch the ball as much as Lin does to have a big impact.

    • CJSHYY

      I think Lin will be fine on Sun.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      you have to admit tho, he literally said he was looking for a chance to put lamb back in but lin’s defense was so good he didnt. that’s pretty damning if you start out with the premise that it’s lin’s minutes to lose.

    • I think so too.
      He always bounces back well because he can figure out the solution quickly.
      He needs to be a Linstant scorer now to earn PT

    • sws94

      That’s the problem. That’s why Lin is coming in so late. I think Cliff’s original plan was that Kemba played with Lin at the end of quarters and they would pose a double threat. But, nothing really happens good when they are on together. And Lin doesn’t do much.

      I think Cliff knows that Kemba/Batum/Lin is the best end-game situation. And really, that Al on the court isn’t. Nor is Lamb.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Lin not starter? Some still ok.
      Lin is last come in? Oh oh.
      Lin is first come out? Oh NO.
      Lin not the PG when Kemba and Batum on floor? Not good
      Lin not closing game? %^#^
      Lin under 20 mpg…….

      What next will you need to convince you Lin is a bad situation?

    • CJSHYY

      BTW, anyone watched Cliff postgame interview? What did he say about today’s lose? This team is really different… no news or talk on the lose?

    • leeda harun

      yes.I remembered what lin said before in every win or lost games you learned something.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      No chance, Lin has to play like Linsanity and Kemba has to be really suck based on game by game only.

    • heart

      You saw it differently than a few of us here. We saw that Lin made two baskets and was playing good defense. With good defense, he was just getting hot so scoring will come w/ his smart plays. Things got ugly when KW ball hogged and hardly passed to Lin and Lamb. When Lin did get touches for a few minutes when KW was out, he was trying to make plays, directing 2nd unit teammates to get into the right spacing for offense, but they couldn’t react fast enough. This may be due to their low bb IQ or having to make chemistry adjustment bc Zeller was out, whatever, etc. But Cliff should have let Lin played through 4th qtr & crunch time. KW, Lamb, Batum, etc. were not getting stops. Period. No defense. No FTs. Period!

    • sws94

      Lin is closing games. He didn’t tonight. It’s a knee-jerk reaction to say he’s not.
      You’ll be right only if he doesn’t the next few games but you aren’t right now.

    • CJSHYY

      I think today’s not Lin’s shot didn’t fall or poor D…. it’s Cliff’s plan… smh! Well, just like the old days in Rox. One good game & when Lin thought everything will be fine from now on…NO NO…As long as he’s not #1 guy in the team, this will just keep repeating…. smh! But he will know what to do… it’s not the first time sure hope it’s the last time.

    • heart

      Probably not. By that time it’ll be 30 games in or near the end of the season. If they don’t make the playoffs, then he will be glued to bench even more I’d think.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Hope someone had a nerve to ask why Kemba played all 1st and 3rd Q and Why Lin wasn’t playing to close game?

    • sws94

      I think 2nd unit needs to look organized. That’s his job at PT. And if the shot is there he can score. If he gets guys open looks or is able to penetrate with ease, he doesn’t necessarily have to score himself to be effective. Also play good D. That’s what Cliff wants to see.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      He still does sometimes in this season and he will, but that’s not what he signed up for.

    • sws94

      I’m watching Cliff’s interview. So far it’s all about Batum and the real-life situation of what happened in Paris. Since Batum had a big game even with the horror happening, he may be the subject of many questions.

    • MKG might be back in playoff but most likely it will be next year.
      If things don’t change regarding PT & finishing games consistently, Lin is better off finding another team

    • InfiniteWisdom

      totally disagree. he wasnt aggressive at all. no pnr = no aggression. once he had brooks on him he attacked twice in a row. that’s aggressive. then hoiberg put rose in and he became a jump shooter again. without zeller nothing wouldve changed much. take a few more shots maybe but even if he made them it doesnt change the game like when he’s attacking, getting fouls, etc. its night and day how he plays depending on if he has a pnr partner…

    • CJSHYY

      I guess not.. bc no tweet on what coach said… smh! Well, I really don’t think Cliff is good (not bc he did not let Lin close the game or short playing time.) He seems to like old ISO game plan more than Lin’s team ball or free style to me. Really don’t know what he & Lin talked about it before Lin signed the contract….

    • CJSHYY

      Ya! I really don’t know why needs to interview Lin? smh! Why no Kemba’s postgame today? His plan didn’t work….

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You have to be a third string backup to get benched if you missed some shots.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Kemba does not make news, in fact none of the Hornets does. Nobody would tune in Charlotte if it wasn’t for Lin.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I hope Lin will be traded by then. Many playoff teams would need backup pg especially one with injuries.

    • heart

      You’re just second guessing. Don’t you know Lin by now, he’s a rhythm player . He can adjust if given time, but his minutes are being yo-yo ed. How many times we saw Lin played w/ scrubs and he still made them look good. If Cliff played him in the 4th and didn’t do as you said, then I’d would say you have a point. But he was not in the 4th. And yes, he was just heating up and got yanked!

    • CJSHYY

      Exactly. In fact, Hornets is not that popular in Asia either. No matter it’s Taiwan or China. I read one report from Taiwan about that Bulls wants Lin for trade rumor and the reporter seems to like the idea bc Bulls is a famous team. LOL!

    • InfiniteWisdom

      way too much overreaction here. let’s see what happens when cody gets back. then and only then will you see the real lin. i find it hard to believe that cliff will sit lin and cody in the 4th when they both beastin…

    • sws94

      Coach loves Batum. Says it’s only 9 games in but he’s hoping to give him opportunity to use his high BB IQ. Says he likes his reaction time to make good BB decisions. Says rebounding is not a Charlotte strength. They have to improve rebounding. Question about Frank. Said Frank is a good offensive player. Has size and skills and is confident. Not physical enough, defensively needs work to get to the NBA level. Sounded positive on him. Said it took Cody awhile too to get to NBA level. Said, 4 man is important in help defense, like PnR and Frank is aware and learning quickly. Talked of Lamb, said he worked on strength since getting to Charlotte, can pass well and pass off dribble, better PnR player than he thought and drive and quick. Asked if he will get a bigger role, he says too soon to know. Can’t tell till after 30 games or so. And a few games doesn’t determine how it is going to be long term. He repeated starters are good with some firepower off of the bench and doesn’t seem to want to mess with that. No questions about Lin. HE did say that some guys are good in limited minutes but it was general, not about any player.

    • sws94

      And too much pointing fingers at other players and imaginary directives from the front office to keep Lin down. If that’s the case, we’ll find out. But a lot of stuff is coming straight out of frustration that Lin isn’t playing as much as we’d like him to and coming in the game after other guys on the bench.

    • aras

      hello´new here on the board..just wanted to share my thought about jeremy lin in this game and the positive thing i got from it is that he penetrated with ease the few times he tried to..negative would be the minutes i get that clifford is still experimenting with the lineups so i would give it 10-15 games or so before people start wanting to curse clifford.

    • sws94

      No questions about Lin. Questions were about Batum, Frank, Lamb. Cliff keeps saying he can’t tell anything after 10 games, needs about 30.

    • CJSHYY

      Thanks for the report. I guess this is from Hornets reporters… So weird, why no one asked him about Lin’s short playing time today?? I guess not allowed… ?

    • Steppen03

      Still don’t make sense. Lin is Still Better than Lamb: Playmaking, FTs, sometimes Shooting, and D – Lin with Kemba is Better than Lamb/Kemba. Just like I would pick Kemba over Lamb: Kemba/Lin >. Lin/Lamb. Two playmakers or game changers is better than one.

    • CJSHYY

      Lin? some firepower off of the bench and doesn’t seem to want to mess with that.

    • heart

      If this Lin’s treatment continues, then perhaps he should go to a playoffs team that will give him playing time. But I don’t see too many friendly teams… Hope a miracle will happen somehow for Lin’s sake.

    • sws94

      When I listen to the coach he sounds really intelligent and measured about basketball. He may not see Lin as we do and he may not play as much as we’d like. I don’t know yet. The coach is trying to figure out what he has. He loves Batum and he thinks the starters have been good. The rest is still up in the air as I see it. And remember, Lin was confident in the coach. Lin may not be pleased tonight, but he’ll move on and be ready to play. Big picture. I’ll see what happens by January. I’m not judging the coach now.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You don’t need to experience on the guy who just won the last two games for you. How about 5 more min in the 4Q and Lin would still only had 22 min game.

    • sws94

      Lin brings a lot of fans. No doubt. Even though it is MJ’s team, no big names. Lin may be the biggest name on the team.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      how is hitting 2 shots getting hot? cmon now, let’s be real here. lin needs the pnr to get him going. i often think him getting an easy layup or him getting fouled, shooting ft’s and seeing the ball go thru the hoop gets him going. but none of that happened tonight. so how was he going to get hot? selfish chucking? that’s not his game. he is an elite pnr player. he had no partner tonight. it’s as simple as that…

    • sws94

      It’s not weird. The reporters were mostly focused on Batum. It makes sense today. It’s not the day to talk about Lin. Last game was, not tonight.

    • heart

      nope, Cliff implied or alluded 30 more games in his post game. He threw out that number. So that’s a hint.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      It does not matter what they say anymore. Lin must keep it within himself and he only speaks wisely in front of the press. Cliff, he’s a hypocrite.

      https://twitter.com/IdoAmir/status/665366177087115269

    • sws94

      Lin with Kemba isn’t as good as Lin with Lamb or Kemba with Batum. Batum has a role in Kemba’s offense and can get the ball to Lamb. In Kemba’s offense, Lin doesn’t do much. If Lin did more, then what you say is correct. Right now, he’s just a body on the court and there for defense.

    • CJSHYY

      I guess that’s just good excuse to switch the focus on lose game. smh!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I hope so too.

    • aras

      agree with you that Lin should of had more minutes but im not going to worry about it yet give it some time. Lin looks comfortable out there can only get better. but they have to get rid of hawes that guy is cancer to that lineup.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      yeah when cody comes back, i dont expect more minutes than before, just his minutes are more of an impact. he wont ever supplant kemba or even lamb for that matter, but he can have such an impact that he’ll force cliff to close with him. the same goes for cody closing over al.

    • CJSHYY

      I thought last postgame said 20? smh!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      I am worry for Lin, this will be his new norm.

    • heart

      He had moved the bar again.

    • aras

      9 games in too early patience you can already tell this is miles better than houston and LA

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      …and it will be moved again. This guy has a sincere voice speaking but the contents are not trust worthy.

    • sws94

      he can also attack in early offense if he doesn’t have PnR. I think he should do that more if PnR is taken away or Zeller is out. I agree with heart that Lin is a rhythm player and he may have started a rhythm. I think he was pulled too soon and I just trust Lin in there in late-game situations. He might have made that big steal or drew a charge or something. I think he could have gone with Lin, but Lamb was shooting OK and had a few buckets in a row. So, a compromise either way. But Lin didn’t play enough this game. Cliff has to play him more.

      LIn needs more practice with the step back. In preseason, he utilized it and that will open his game up. He also used it in Minnesota in some one-on-one moves, not PnR.

    • deesee5

      This is what i’ve always been saying!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You don’t understand how the team agendas work. Lin will be used within its system, that’s all. You don’t need to see anymore.

    • Spot

      Better than Houston, no. Better than LA, definitely.

    • aras

      when it comes to the coach yes

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      yep.

    • aras

      i still say its 9 games in you people are blowing things out of proportion way too early

    • CJSHYY

      Anyway, I don’t like him & I really think he don’t like Lin’s game either. He & Mc are all the same …don’t like dangerous pass or playing free style…

      I don’t even think bc Lin’s 0-4 in 1st half got him not close the game bc in 4Q he already started to heat up… Look at Kemba, not shooting well either… Just use this as good excuse for not playing Lin in close game. smh!

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Cody back only to take Kaminsky’s minutes away. Unrelated.

    • blubell
    • sws94

      It’s not a fact. Lin has been closing games and you are making it a competition. The only reason to me why Lin may not close is that he has no chemistry with Kemba. Lamb has still the defensive hole and that is enough to keep him on the bench unless the team needs his 3 point shooting. If not needed, I see Lin closing. At least right now I do.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      The system is in place, what are you waiting for? Miracle? If that’s only miracle.

    • sws94

      Multiple screens. He brings the ball down, someone else swings it around, he works off multiple screens. It’s something Cliff is trying to lift off of Pop’s system. Lin just can’t get stuck at top before going into that type of swing around offense. If he’s playing with Al, Lin can find ways to work with Al and get him the ball deep.

    • heart

      Today, once again Cliff repeated to the reporters/listeners that the starters or starting line up are good. When the questions are being asked over again, something is amiss. It scares me to think perhaps this is Hornets narrative, so you may hear Hornets commentators ferreting it soon. Remember Rox?

    • sws94

      They aren’t going to just discuss Lin with Cliff. They did a lot the last 2 games, no need this game.

    • CJSHYY

      Not worry, I think top wants Lin but Cliff is not… Well, maybe top wants to change the lineup? Let us wait & see then…

    • InfiniteWisdom

      there’s no such thing as early offense on this team… sigh…

      to get lin more minutes i can see subbing him in earlier, but as for closing out games, it has to do with how well he is playing. and suffice it to say, he didnt show much tonight.

    • sws94

      I’m not sure ultimately what his minutes average will be. Kemba won’t play 37 minutes most games. And really, this is the first game Lamb has had significantly more minutes than Lin. I have to see more.

    • sws94

      I’m exhausted with the minutes talk. It’s 9 games and Clifford keeps saying it’s just 9 games and he’s trying to figure things out.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      They all work the same in this kind of business. They are acting like experts but in reality they are the team spoke person.

    • LinMad

      hey i just found this site.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Remember this about what Cliff said?

      https://twitter.com/IdoAmir/status/665379782595579905

    • LinMad

      sure did. what happened?

    • Alain Gervais

      A unknown player usually come every year and make the most of having Lin infant of him. This year its Lamb. Like Bev, Clarkson, and Ronnie whats his face. its back to being average as a player once Lin leaves. Any player behind Lin should lick their lips. Once Lin leave the opportunities will dry up, Just ask Bev. All they have to do is play well and You’ll get a ton of opportunity. Lin should be holding on to his role like Kemba is. But Lin has never gotten treated good in the NBA. I can see the writing on the wall. From now on id advice Lin watch Lamb closely. I am no longer hoping he does well. I hate being a fan of a player and not a team but i just cant trust Hornets yet. I was optimistic like always but its decreasing every game

    • heart

      We’ll never know bc he didn’t get to play in the 4th. Simple as that.

    • sws94

      This coach is smart. This team is competitive in most games. He has a good system compared to other coaches and his manner seems good with players.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Do you think 17 min and not closing game will bring Lin the same success he had in NY?

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Let me make a bet, if Lamb is injured, Daniels will be next.

    • Steppen03

      I don’t like it one bit And I’m a CC supporter from the very beginning (hoping that CC is that special bond for Lin after MDA). Lamb’s contract has a lot to do with everything about Lin’s role on team. CC favors length: Lamb > Lin. Even Felton gets more PT , 20min, as backup on Mavs than our JL7. This is Crazy…. I really don’t like the look of it. Sure, it’s only ONE game But I now Know abit more about CC and FO…. Lin can only gets more PT if the 1st unit is really, really under-performed which … is a bad way to go – cause that’s not how I envisioned – I want everyone to play well and that will cost Lin’s minutes…. So, root for the Team = Lin’s minutes reduced. How can I root for the team ??

    • LinMad

      no, that is not giving Lin the chance the shine

      they are suppressing Lin

    • InfiniteWisdom

      sounds like something they’d do….. for lamb.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      That’s what Cliff said early of the season and he does the opposite now.

    • Alain Gervais

      Ofcourse, Anyone but Lin. I forgot who was the guy before Bev who was on the Knicks. HE finished games all the time in houston. i think his name was douglas. When he was traded i was happy like yes Lin will finish games now. then bev pops up out of no where. These dudes pop up like terminators. They will always be back.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      No he’s not, they were out rebounded by 45 to 57 but still leaving team best rebounder (Tyler) on the bench especially the night without Zeller.

    • heart

      thought you knew.

    • sws94

      I know. Clifford has talked about it and there was a hint of it in the Knicks game. But Lin needs to try to implement that.

      He’s played not great and closed out previous games. Game 2 and 3 and he closed out Minnesota and NY close games. The others were blowouts. Lamb closed tonight and was close to a non-factor. Al didn’t close out 3 games and Kemba 1.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Tony Douglas.

    • Ben Johnson

      Amazing that the coach that verbally called out Jeremy on a constant basis to the media (McHail), treated him the most fairly of any of his coaches since MDA.

    • Alain Gervais

      Being a Lin fan is tough

    • CJSHYY

      That’s before season started & history now… I don’t think Cliff likes Lin’s game at all. He tried so hard to make this team to play like last season. Bc Cliff thinks now w Batum & Lamb. He had all his O guys to help him to keep his job. smh!

    • the old ‘play him more minutes to get him going’ argument is getting very stale….

    • We just have to be patient. If Linsanity can happen in 2012, anything is possible.

      Let’s put it this way. Coach wants 20-30 games to get enough data & lineup that wins?
      If he keeps getting 0FTs in 4th quarter for 10 games, he’ll get 10 losses.

      So if Coach is too slow to use Lin well in 4th quarter to win games, that’s his loss for loving to lose so much.

      I’m giving his method of “Play-who-score-the-most” to finish games some time.
      If he doesn’t trust JLin to be a playmaker, then he doesn’t deserve winning.

      I understand his difficulty of trying to keep Kemba/Batum happy but it’s up to him to figure out how to make Kemba/Lin/Batum lineup to work to finish games.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Lin was a starter in 82 games first season there. He closed all 6 playoff games in the 2nd season despite being a backup.

    • sws94

      McHale did not treat Lin fairly. He would sit Lin out for entire 4th quarters. He was horrible to Lin.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      The season wasn’t long ago.

    • Alain Gervais

      say what you will about mchail but he had a small list of player who finished lin. if Lamb was in houston he would not finish games. No way

    • Ben Johnson

      yeah, but he still treated him better than BScott or Clifford…when Haren was out in Houston, McHale let Jeremy RUN the show….I mean, McHale was favoring Haren over Jeremy, but at least he’s a top 10 player…Kemba or Batum don’t hold a jockstrap compared to Haren, and Jeremy is arguably better than both players

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Neither was in OKC.

    • Steppen03

      We’re only venting on this site. Among Lin fans. SO, Calm down… We’re NOT causing Any discomforts to players. You think they care ?? Kemba Wants to be the head of the snake, you don’t think so… ? But, Kemba is set. Lamb is set. Batum, MKG – set. Who is not ?? Right, out Lin …

    • Yascar

      No it doesn’t seem fair at all. But we all know one thing – he’s going to make the best of this situation. Jeremy will be fine. He might never have a chance to be a superstar, but I have faith he’ll be ok.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      he did, and only hit 2 shots. one of which was a layup over a midget. now that lamb is in the picture, lin has to outplay him to close out games. and has to significantly outplay kemba to play as pg. he did neither tonight.

    • sws94

      Lamb is a 2 guard and he is a lot more talented than Beverley. Lin is a PG behind Kemba who is the starter. Batum is your swing guy from the 2 to 3. Lin can be a small SG but he is another facilitator if going with a small lineup. Not really comparable.

    • heart

      yep.

    • heart

      We’ll see. Hope Lin will get a break soon.

    • GoodDayLA

      there should not be anything for him to figure out after 5 seasons in the NBA.

    • Alain Gervais

      Ofcourse he will be fine. he will score well and adjust. Potential is there if he just had a little trust from coach we would see Lin explode

    • Alain Gervais

      Good point still fool me once………

    • CJSHYY

      Hornets will not keep him no matter they will make it to playoff or not.

    • Pete Roces

      I think atm Lin’s career is already at a downward trend, NBA just won’t allow him to excel, so why waste his prime years in this rotten league. In CBA, he will be a superstar that command respect and at the same time can help improve basketball skills of Chinese players. I think he should consider CBA as an alternative already. NBA is thrash.

    • InfiniteWisdom

      how can he if no one else runs? we’re gonna have to live with the fact that cliff doesnt play that way.

      that was before the contract and subsequent lambsanity. i fully expect that lamb has replaced the “lin will play WITH kemba” idea…

      all we can hope for now is that he plays whatever limited minutes with zeller and that they can cause some damage as a pnr duo.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Training camp, 8 preseason games, 9 games regular season games, practice….. 20-30 games is just his excuse to buy time not to explain what the heck he’s doing.

    • sws94

      No way does he treat him better than Clifford and I have no idea after 10 games or so how you can say anything about Clifford on such a small sample size. Clifford has been pretty steady in his use of Lin. We don’t like the minutes, well we don’t like them. But McHale had Lin going from position to position and not knowing when he’d play or not and then bad-mouthed him and put Beverley on a pedestal.

      McHale was horrible to Lin. He played him when he needed to. But he had Lin walking on eggshells and was the beginning of Lin’s uncertainty in himself as an NBA player. Clifford is nothing like that.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Now you predict too far ahead.

    • CJSHYY

      Will see.

    • sws94

      I think the vision for Batum is working. The vision of Kemba and Lin together isn’t. A good coach then goes to plan B. We can’t fault Clifford for that. He’s coaching for Charlotte, not for Lin. But he still may be trying to find ways to use Lin in the right context if he’s hoping for Kemba and Lin to be a force together. And he also knows he needs Lin to step in if Kemba goes down for games so Lin has to have some familiarity with the first unit guys.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Let just concern Lin mins for now, that’s what he needs for next contract. Plus Lin has the option to stay or to go next season not the Hornets.

    • sws94

      He didn’t explode on Tuesday and Wednesday? Today is just one game. Maybe he didn’t like Lin’s demeanor on court. Who knows? But in most games, he seems to be encouraging Lin to do Lin things. It’s not Cliff’s fault he doesn’t have an Ed Davis. I don’t see Cliff separating Lin and someone like Davis the way BS did.

    • heart

      Same thought. He talks about stability in roles and minutes, yet we keep seeing constant changes, especially w/Lin.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin worked with harden really well late. with chandler parson who you could replace with datum. so how isn’t it working. Kemba is just inefficient. His style of play is iso heavy. Datum and Lin worked great together. Lamb and KEmba the last few minutes wasn’t that great. Datum made crazy shot after crazy shot to keep it close but it wasn’t really close.

    • heart

      Go w/your instincts. Evidence is piling up…

    • heart

      Sorry, let’s agree to disagree. You’ll not convince me otherwise.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Season 1 average 32 mpg. Season 2 (backup) average 29 mpg. and those minutes were with Harden

    • LinMad

      I don’t think Batum can be a play maker. He still gets a lot of TOs. Also, he won’t shoot over 20 points per game but the 35+ minutes per game does help him get over 20 points.

    • Alain Gervais

      Im not giving up, Its just i would rather me be wrong then you be wrong. ill be cautious until the season is over .

    • sws94

      Forget other teams. Clifford has Kemba who he knows well. He’s still seeing and evaluating and learning about Lin. He thinks Lin is a strong defensive player that will get stronger. I think he’s confused to why sometimes Lin looks so decisive and mentally strong and other times more hesitant and not as commanding. I really think that’s what he is weighing. I wonder why we refuse to look at Lin’s performance and demeanor on court and talk about all these other things rather than that.

      For Lin to play with Kemba he wanted some version of a Splash brothers. Guys that can score and facilitate on both sides. Try to load up on one and the other will get you. Then you have Batum as another weapon. A 3-headed monster. The Kemba-Lin part hasn’t worked yet. He’s tried. He’s inserted Lin early some quarters but it hasn’t happened. I think its Kemba’s fault but I think Kemba doesn’t really know how to play with another PG. So, until Kemba learns, Lin has to be compromised. I think that’s what is happening.

    • GoodDayLA

      Paul is almost never right these days. I disagree with him quite often now.

    • sws94

      Batum is playing well. He’s adapting to the new team fine. His TOs are going to happen but he’s an asset to the team.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      You should be a criminal defense attorney. Unfortunately all the excuses you had for Cliff would not be allowed in court, those are not evidence. Those are fiction of what you think.

    • linlin

      You can see Clifford swear after Lin tried to set up offense but ended up dumping to Lamb and the ball bounced to top of backboard. I think he was mad at Lin. It was either end of 3rd or beginning of 4th.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      If that’s true, it confirmed more about how he truly feel about lIn.

    • Steppen03

      Before, I said gave CC 10-15 game to figure out (BY THAT is, staying with the “same” lineup – Kemba/Lin finishing). I don’t care who’s in – Lin Has to be the closer. If we’re only hoping for Kemba to be unavailable in order for Lin to close games then it will a very long wait – and it’s not the right way to go either. CC favors Lamb right now – there’s no hiding that. I don’t think it will change, PERIOD. So what if Lin gets to close some games… It’s Not what he signs up for. We want to see 25+ min. Not 15+ min.

    • heart

      Then he does not truly understand Lin’s game.

    • LinMad

      I do see Clifford frustrated with Lin a lot when I believe it’s the teammates not being in position.

    • Ben Johnson

      There is no evidence indicating that Clifford understands the nuances of running an NBA level offense…guy has always been a defensive minded coach

    • sws94

      You actually are writing speculation. Agendas and stuff like that. Anyway, let’s remember the rules. Disagree politely. OK. We’re on the same side. We support Lin. But I’m looking at the basketball scenarios and the whole team and how Lin contributes to it. I don’t know Clifford but Lin chose him. I’ve heard what he’s said. He has established players, Lin is joining them. They aren’t joining Lin.

    • Lx

      If Clifford wants to experiment then he should do it by giving Lin 30+ minutes a game.

    • LinMad

      If that’s true he should have left Lin in longer

    • Ben Johnson

      Yup, but he’s too dense to realize he doesn’t know Jack about NBA offenses

    • Alain Gervais

      Ill say one last thing. Lin needs to stay one place long term. Where ever he goes unfortunately this will happen. Mchale had to play him and had to start him but didn’t let him finish. Mchale got used to Lin and trusted Lin in some way. We have to remember it took 1 year for mchale to use Lin late in games. I don’t think Lin will get a better option then the Hornets. The opportunity is there. Cliff is clearly still feeling out Lin. He know Kemba like Mchale knew Lin. HE knows what Kemba will do . Knicks game was important because that was the beginning of building the trust. Cliff also tried Lamb but it hasn’t worked. Maybe we have to wait a year. This is what being on one team Helps with. Going from team to team means you have to rebuild trust. We want him to trust Lin off the bat but would you. in a contract year. Lin has to build trust in Cliff it may take 30 games like Cliff said. Again we are learning three year with mchale was better in the since mchale knew Lin. He hasn’t had more then 1 year with one coach yet. i think after 1 year or more with Cliff it would get a lot better. Even for supposedly top pg r like ty lawson changing teams sucks. Look at Lance stephenson who has been a shell of himself since Pacers. Lin needs a home. The only issue is minutes and thats a trust thing. Trust just takes time

    • heart

      his offense scheme is suspect.

    • sws94

      I don’t think he favors Lamb. I really don’t. I think he wants to win and favors putting in who he thinks is going to win. But in terms of having a consistent closing lineup I think he favors Lin. Lin is more complete and proven and way better on defense. And Lin fans are obsessed and hung up on minutes without looking at what Clifford has to consider for his whole team. Until you do so, it’s just it’s X amount of minutes or there has to be an agenda. Maybe there isn’t and it is for basketball reasons that Clifford is doling out the minutes he does to certain players.

    • sws94

      The new addition I see Cliff clearly favoring is Batum. And he knows and goes with his starters (and not even going with Al down the stretch for a few games). As for Lin, he goes as the starting unit goes but he’s been finishing most close games. That he doesn’t one close game isn’t time to conclude anything. Especially when Charlotte didn’t win it.

    • linlin

      actually it was in the 2nd quarter at 7:00minute mark.

    • takemeback2reaganyears

      Facts are right there, no speculation from me. Watch what Cliff does not what Cliff says.

      Have you heard of making a bad deal? Do you think Lin was promised to be an inconsistent “backup” role? Not even with more money.

    • LinMad

      What I don’t understand is how Batum, a newly signed Hornets, is getting so many minutes so soon compared to Lin. Lin looks like he’s on the decline. Moving further back in the rotation and getting less minutes. Today was his lowest this season at 17 minutes. I think his lowest before was 18.

    • Alain Gervais

      ITs like Lin after linsanity. He has to get the minutes except he is only here for 1 year so he has to play even more. Charlotte is a small market so player like datum usually go else way.

    • sws94

      The thing is, we have to look at the whole team and ask ourselves what is he weighing. What is he evaluating. How is he trying to find the combo of players in what minute allotment to try to win the most games. It’s not a question of Lin. It’s seeing Lin as a piece of the puzzle. Not the piece that has to be X amount of minutes. If we continue to see that, we may not be happy about his time in Charlotte.

    • Yascar

      They obviously value him more. They need to keep Batum happy so that he’ll sign with them next season.

      Lin may or may not figure in their plans although I think you’d have to be blind or biased or both to not see that Lin is one of the best value players in the NBA today.

    • Alain Gervais

      After 2 years in houston and Los Angeles lin don’t have that type of value. it has to be rebuild.

    • LinMad

      Yes, for a small franchise like Hornets, Lin is worth more than keeping Batum imo. If Lin isn’t happy and leaves Hornets, Hornets will remain a third tier team forever.

    • It’s frustrating indeed.
      But he’s the coach with smart BB IQ but can be slow to make game adjustments plus the politics.

      I have learned that in 3 yrs being there, he’s always rigid in first 3 quarters to make adjustment in the 4th. That’s way too late for my taste.

      The good part is he knows JLin can help in his PnR system to win a lot of games.

      The bad part is he currently favors future players w/ long-term contract at the expense of winning; although he might have some pressure to save his job.

      I believe he’s sincere but have difficulty to navigate politics.

      There’s no other way except for JLin to keep showing he’s the most dangerous scorer who needs to play more PT. All this talk about ball-movement was set aside by who can score the most.
      The past 2 games Lin took the right approach & was given a chance to shine. Today his leash was short.

      We’ll just have to wait to see JLin keep seizing chances after chances.
      It’s a long season; anything can happen.

    • Alain Gervais

      Thats not true

    • LinMad

      How so? Hornets/Bobcats were never a big name.

    • LinMad

      Lin is also one year with a player option? If Lin isn’t happy, he may leave just like Batum.

    • Alain Gervais

      Datum is more valued because of the way portland valued him

    • Alain Gervais

      To what??

    • LinMad

      However, Batum was a role player not a superstar. Hornets is trying to paint him like a superstar who can do everything.

    • Alain Gervais

      There is no superstar on this team. He was just hot. The SF position isn’t deep so he will play alot

    • LinMad

      Doesn’t matter what team. He will be offered more than $2M. If he doesn’t like the way he is treated in Hornets, he may leave. It’s not like Lin is asking for 30 minutes. I’m pretty sure if Lin got 23-25 minutes per game, he would be satisfied. If Batum needs 35 minutes per game to be satisfied, that’s fine but coach needs to find a balance with Lin. Lin isn’t ask for much. I don’t believe he is happy with 16 minutes.

    • sws94

      Batum is around Lin’s age, 27 in December, and very versatile as a player. Lin’s minutes has to do with basketball situations and combos with other players. Let’s not forget Tuesday and Wednesday’s games.

    • Alain Gervais

      The hornets will likely offer him more then lamb. other teams as well. The issue is building trust with another coach takes time. Time is something Lin has less and less of. He cant jump from team to team.

    • Alain Gervais

      The only issue we have is MPG. Thats easily fixed. Finding another system that fit is a work. With the right players…….

    • LinMad

      That’s the thing though. He’s not playing like a SF. He’s playing like he’s a PG/SG/PF. He soaks the roles from Lin and Lamb sometimes. And I think the coach knows this and that’s why he doesn’t play Lin with Batum as much as he used to. However, now that he’s playing Kemba with Lin, it’s a no win situation for Lin. Lin will have limited minutes, his role will become smaller unless Lin makes it known that he is not happy.

    • sws94

      What are Lin’s attributes as a player. What are his weaknesses? Who are his competitors in the market? What is the best way to maximize his talents at this time in his career? That’s what really matters for his playing options IMO. Not the stuff we keep getting stuck on.

    • Alain Gervais

      Not really he is playing the Parson role. Datum and Lin play Well together. He does everything well. Him and marvin for the knicks game was perfect with Lin.

    • sws94

      Actually Lin and Batum are good together. Batum hasn’t been needed because Lin was running the show great without him and he could get more rest. It’s Kemba that Lin hasn’t clicked with. Off court, yes. On court, not so much.

    • LinMad

      I know, I want Lin to find a home in Charlotte. I don’t like him moving from team to team either. However, if he gets disrespected like this, he needs to stand up for himself and let the media know he’s not happy with his minutes. Yes, it may sound selfish but he’s been through this many times before and never said anything. I think now is the time and his fans should support him.

    • LinMad

      From what I’ve seen, Batum doesn’t like to pass to Lin. Maybe the last game against Knicks he did but I haven’t really seen Lin click with Batum because Lin just sits in corner while Batum is the primary ball handler/shooter and he rarely passes it to Lin.

      It’s usually Zeller or Lamb that he passes to first.

    • Alain Gervais

      Thats the issue. Trust don’t build over night. Its like us fans we knew Lin for years now. Cliff just met him. Mchale at first never let lin finish after a year if it was a tough game or in the playoff guess who finished and played over time. It takes time. If he leaves its another year of time the needs to be put in.

    • heart

      But Cliff keeps moving the bar. Praying for a miracle that Lin will get a break somehow.

    • Alain Gervais

      He is evaluating trust. Knowing a player takes time. who works where with whom takes a good amount of time.

    • Alain Gervais

      What do you mean moving the bar. As for praying for a miracle Lin had to great games already. If he played 30 minutes he would get 30 points. I don’t think one performance will fix this but rather a year of coaching and getting to know and trust Lin

    • LinMad

      Then maybe he should just voice his honest opinion to the coach and front office if he wants to stay on this team. Let them know he wants to stay on this team but they got to give him more minutes. Since 16 minutes is not enough for a player like him. He deserves more. If he doesn’t voice it, many Lin fans on Twitter will out of anger. It has happened before last season and some of it today. The franchise will take a hit. Team chemistry might hurt.

      I do hope after today’s episode, Coach Cliff will get the message from someone in the front office to play Lin more. I believe a lot of fans were angry today.

    • TTNN

      maybe he will not earn min if he had a great game, but he will lose min if he was not hot?

      I noticed that he was on a short leash, he got pulled very quick when he had a mistake…….

    • Alain Gervais

      If i was an agent of Lin i wouldn’t tell them i want to stay. That kills negotiation. Just play well and earn trust

    • sws94

      Watch the Knick game. Batum and Lin were playing well off of each other. Batum also had his arm around Lin on a time out and just let Lin run the show. Lin was the primary ball handler down the stretch. Not Batum. Difference is, no Kemba until 20 seconds until the end of game and then he went out when he got hit by a Knick big man on a rebound attempt. Batum and Lin look OK.

    • Spot

      Lin already had a break. But it wasn’t enough.

      Eye test vs numbers. Clifford prefers eye test

    • LinMad

      Yes, like I said the only one was the Knicks game. The other games, Batum didn’t look like he acknowledges Lin’s existence on the court.

    • sws94

      He just didn’t look right. I think it wasn’t a short lease more than Cliff thinking the unit just wasn’t clicking so get Kemba in and try not to let the lead get out of hand.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lins new stats 12.2 PPG 19.9 PER

    • LinMad

      I thought preseason where Lin was shooting 50%+ was enough experiment

    • LinMad

      So he’s basically like Byron Scott.

    • LinMad

      From what before? How much did it fall?

    • Alain Gervais

      Not neccesorily Lin play 19 Minutes Last Chicago game. Like PFv said could be Matchups.

    • Alain Gervais

      13.3 21 PER

    • sws94

      That was the most recent game before tonight’s and really, that was the game Lin took charge. I’ve been saying Lin has to take charge. That’s the NBA. If a PG takes charge, then he’ll get the ball. Sometimes you have to show leadership, and Lin did that in that game.

    • Alain Gervais

      21 minute per game

    • Ben Johnson

      that’s actually not too bad of a drop in his PER…even though I hate the stat, it is used by the media to rate players. As we all know by know, the media’s perception of a player actually influences the front offices in making their decisions

    • sws94

      Folks, take a breath. He’s not disrespected. In fact. he’s valued. Let’s watch more games.

    • LinMad

      Imagine if he had 35 minutes a night…

    • Alain Gervais

      What ever happens lin will have amazing efficiency. His year will be find. i still expect 13-14 PPG

    • LinLinLin

      I noticed the NBA is co-branding Lin with other relatively unknown players very hard to Lin’s fans. It seems to be a trend on the Rox, Lakers, and now the Hornets.

    • Alain Gervais

      Thats why i want him to stay and build that trust. Look AL jefferson didn’t finish last game. So did Kemba. Cliff is figure out this team. Clearly trust some players more. Mostly because he knows them. Batum has no real competition for minutes.

    • LinLinLin

      Even the relatively known Rich Cho is renamed Rich Chao here bcuz of Lin’s FOTB role in Chao…lol

    • sws94

      That can change with a 22 point game in 22 minutes. He likes to play Portland. Hope he plays well against them.

    • Spot

      My opinion:

      Jeremy was a Cho’s choice. And so Lamb. And Kaminsky.

      Clifford asked D’Antoni how to use Jeremy but to him, he’s a role player at best. And so Lamb. Probably for him he’s too skinny.

      Clifford likes tough and tall players. Cho built up a team of skillfull players. As long as Clifford wins, he stays. When he will start to lose he will be fired cause he and Cho are not on the same page and cause Clifford is wasting talents right now in Charlotte.

    • Alain Gervais

      Yep its still early. HE will play better. Coy will be back. He is playing his stylee of ball

    • LinMad

      Lets be honest here. If Kemba or Batum was in Lin’s shoes, was the last person to come off the bench with 2 minutes left in the 1st qtr, then be the first to be taken out in the 2nd qtr. Then the last to placed back in the game in the 3rd qtr. Then yanked out early 4th. I think they would be super pissed too. There is no way Lin will find a place on this team like that. I mean this isn’t even a little fair for Lin. It’s the worse rotation I’ve seen for a capable backup PG.

    • Yascar

      He definitely has value over 2.1m. No one else of his caliber will play for less than 5M imo.

    • sws94

      He isn’t used inconsistently. He’s used more sparingly than we would like. But he’s used fairly consistently with the normal variations that happen based on basketball situations. And again it’s TEN games. Not 40.

    • LinLinLin

      When the starters play well, Lin’s minutes reduced.

      When there’s a blowout win, LIn wasn’t needed, so his reduced minutes justified.

      When the 2nd unit isn’t clicking, LIn’s subbed out quickly just so the lead wldn’t disappear or enlarged.

      Who’s Lin in the coaches’ eye? Superstar who’s allowed to play his game or dispensable 9th option off the bench?

    • LinMad

      dispensable 9th option. I think all you’ve listed is just a way to explain why Lin isn’t getting his minutes so that other players like Kemba, Batum, Al can get theirs. Sad thing is all these players can get fair minutes including Lin. It’s just not happening cause some player need 35-36 minutes.

    • sws94

      This was mentioned by Cliff for Lin. Lin is good at getting the ball to Lamb various ways, but he also works side to side.

    • Alain Gervais

      The more i think about it the more I’m relaxing. Even in so called bad games Lin PER barely dips. Shows the potential on this team. PTSD is Effecting me. Lin and Cliff needs more game time with each other to gain trust Like Lin and Mchale had the second year together. This time though Lin is playing in a system that is perfect for him and with player that fit him.

    • LinLinLin

      Hate to say I agree with you.

      Now Lin has to tell himself let’s do his thing and put the “trust the coach’s promise” behind him. Not to say to disobey the coaches, just not get emotional about the broken promise and be calm to play his game within the confine of the coaches gameplan…sound easy here, does it work that way?

    • LinMad

      yes, I agree the trust is not there however Lin didn’t play worse than some of the players who got more minutes than Lin. I think Clifford was frustrated with Kemba today too but Kemba still got his.

    • Alain Gervais

      Kemba and Cliff been together since 2012

    • sws94

      But Lamb has only closed one game compared to Lin’s how many? Lamb was subbed out for 20 sec of the Knicks game, not Lin. Can’t be Lamb’s if he hasn’t been closing out the games. In terms of overall minutes, Lamb may get more. But, I don’t know. Lin’s pairing with other players may emerge with some great chemistry that has yet to surface. I feel something with MW may happen. And really, Lamb has the best chemistry with Lin. And Keller and Hawes love to talk about how much they enjoy playing with Lin.

    • LinMad

      I agree but I think this means Lin needs to play more selfishly. And that will hurt team chemistry but I’d rather he shoot 12 times in 18 minutes than shoot just 6 times.

    • LinLinLin

      In the hindsight, I think McHales KNOWS Lin is an elite PG but he tried to contain him just so Harden won’t be outshined and Linsanity won’t happen and haunt M&M again.

    • LinMad

      That’s only 3 years. I think Kemba doesn’t mind allowing Lin play. He even cheers for Lin when he’s playing. It’s not that I’m mad Kemba gets 35 minutes. I’m just mad coach can’t find Lin an additional 5-7 minutes. I’m also mad that he’s coming in last every game and taken out so early.

    • LinLinLin

      No no, I don’t mean to play selfishly. Just be calm and not disappointed. He can be pissed and angry but not feel betrayed to the extent his shooting/performance is affected.

    • heart

      You’re coming up w/justifications again to make yourself feel better, don’t you? Remember, what I said before, go w/your first instincts.

    • Alain Gervais

      Next 5 games portland, knicks, nets, 76ers, and kings. Lin will bounce back. The way he is player. Only top teams can stop him. Like Chicago and Atlanta especially as the team find itself

    • Alain Gervais

      It took Lin 1 year to get trust from Mchale. 3 year in ball time is forever by the way

    • LinLinLin

      Lin gotta be very angry but be in the full awareness that the NBA has lots of double headed snakes whom he can’t trust just based on empty words.

    • LinMad

      I’m afraid if he keeps getting low minute games, his confidence will slowly get buried and he will perform worse. Coach is not empowering him to be the best that he can be. We saw what could happen in preseason when Lin was empowered by the coach. But now, it’s just not the same.

    • Alain Gervais

      Instinct is just what you’ve experience. So of course being a Lin fans from what I’ve experience I’m still very cautious. Anyway I’m moving on. Cant stay pissed it won’t change nothing

    • LinMad

      I don’t know, the amount of minutes Lin had per game in Rockets and Lakers is looking a lot better than Hornets.

    • Alain Gervais

      Look at the stats. 25 minutes in La land equates to 5 minutes on the hornets. Rox was after Insanity and He was there for a while with Mchale.

    • heart

      Yep. Just be cautious and judge actions not words.

    • LinMad

      How did it equate to 5 minutes on Hornets? Lin did well in Lakers actually. Just didn’t win games cause the coach was so bad.

    • Alain Gervais

      Lin himself said he didn’t fit in that system. He made there most of that situation. He fit in charlotte/ just needs minutes

    • LinMad

      I’m hoping next game will be better. I hope Lin gets more minutes and politics are thrown out the window. I hope this will happen next game but if it doesn’t, I can no longer call myself a Hornets fan. I’m already starting to hate the coach. I don’t hate the players. I just think Coach needs to let Lin run the 2nd unit and stop delegating that duty to Batum and Kemba. 2nd unit looks confused cause no one really runs that unit. It’s usually 2-3 players trying to be the floor general.

      However, some games when Lin finally gets to be the floor general we see exciting things like what happened in the Knicks game.

    • LinMad

      I agree Lakers was a bad season for Lin but I can’t say that Hornets is better when Lin is getting less of a chance to play.

    • Steppen03

      You’re so right about that. How the actions from T-Hans ? Daniels ? Do they even exist ? Give them some minutes. Play the starters for far too long with No results. ( Did not watch games… No league pass.). Saw enough. Where’s the fast pace games ? Where’s the PnR ? Even tried ?? I still have faith in coach, FO, teammates – for Lin’s sake.

    • adele

      We can be a Lin fan with our eyes wide open. Not blindly follow and agree with the people that surround him. We all know about the politics. We can be happy when he is given the minutes and the proper role. We can just be simple in our happiness and witness a few moments of Linsanity whenever that will happen. To me, I’m happy to see my “Dragon Ball Z” character come into play like a beast. Only he is being toyed by the coach and management. He’s is not unleashed. He is still in a cage. They throw him crumbs and some few meat, but if he starts beasting, they contain him. They don’t want their anointed stars to be out-shined.

    • sws94

      It was supposed to be with Kemba. That’s why I keep saying it isn’t Lamb that’s the problem. Or Batum or anyone else. It’s Kemba and Lin aren’t clicking in the way Clifford hoped they would. So Lin has to play not with him to play and that means the 2nd unit has to have the lead and be going well or Clifford goes back to Kemba and mostly the first unit.

    • adele

      I can feel your frustration but I have come into understanding the whole situation. We can still hope for another miracle. The two games that Lin was given minutes, it’s not that Clifford really trust Lin. Hairston was injured. And Kemba was injured and was embarrassed with his play. And besides, it’s the Knicks. Clifford knows that Lin has an ax to grind with the team. So he let him have his Linsanity time. At least Clifford is somewhat sensitive towards Lin. For now, I’m content with that. But deep inside I know that their anointed stars will always (repeat) always have the minutes and the freedom to get their needed stats.

    • Steppen03

      I don’t think so. McHale IS only Harden’s pet coach. McHale is Not a Linsanity believer. Never will be. Its the hard truth – No coach is going to ride Linsanity like MDA. Only MDA was willing to correct his own mistake – overlooking Lin the first time. Only MDA saw “Nash” in Jeremy Lin.

    • LinLinLin

      Oh one depressing observation I have about Lin’s game highlight on utube has less and less views as the years go by…

    • adele

      Unless somebody is injured, we can’t see Linsanity. Sad but true.

    • adele

      Rockets and Lakers are history. We are now looking into the current team. Some people here just want to see the positive that’s why they seem to give positive comments to the coach and the management. We express our opinions and vent our frustrations here. We are longing for Lin to be treated fairly. But as we all know life is not fair. But Lin trusts God and we should look beyond the games. Life is short and let us see Lin in a different light. Not just basketball. Sports is an entertainment. Being in this forum is a part of the entertainment. We can be frustrated but we get over it. Then onto the next game. That’s the way it is. It’s like watching a movie. This will get very interesting. As somebody said “as the plot thickens”

    • adele

      Yes and a bench player. Not a starter and not as a star not a face of the franchise. He is there to support the stars. He can’t be allowed to shine in their eyes. We can only hope.

    • adele

      Agree. Clifford is not as smart as what I thought he is in the Pre-season. He did not believe what happened in the pre-season line up production. To him it’s just a show. He doesn’t really trust and believe in Lin. He said he does but his actions are different. He is not only “not smart” he is also “hard headed” and we call that “stubborn”

    • adele

      Don’t be blind. Kemba was hurt on the last game.

    • adele

      I don’t believe in the “trust takes time” Either you trust and believe or not at all. Clifford will only give Lin minutes if somebody will get hurt. Lin is a Bench player in his eyes. A substitute. Not a star and not a franchise player. That’s the kind of idea that they have to pound into our minds. Again and again and again.

    • adele

      Cifford is not smart period. And stubborn. Not a good attitude combination as a coach. Basically if we really understand the meaning of a coach, it boils down to the attitude of a person. It all starts with the coach.

    • adele

      Every person have different attitude and characteristic. Let’s just say he is somewhat similar. But he can change his ways if somebody is hurt. Byron Scott is a Kobe believer so he treats everybody like scrubs except Kobe.

    • adele

      And why are they not keeping him?

    • adele

      That’s your opinion. If there’s no superstar in the eyes of the coach and FO, why are some players allowed superstar minutes and freedom of their play? They are anointed superstars in this team. The face of their franchise. Not our Lin. we have to understand that they are looking Lin as a bench player. A solid back-up if somebody will get hurt or if the coach wants to save his job in the nick of time. The coach will also pray for a miracle when the time comes. It’s not about trust on Lin. It’s about saving his a…..s

    • adele

      Don’t worry too much. Just enjoy each game whether he is given minutes or not. To me, I fully understand the whole situation. I was so frustrated and very emotional. That’s not a smart way to see things because there are people who will disagree with you. But if you believe that Lin will someday get his chance, then join the fun.

    • adele

      I know what you mean. 🙂 I’m not reading his narratives anymore.

    • John Focker

      Yes it would. A fair-weather-only fighter is no fighter at all.

    • adele

      If you argue with a person with blind beliefs, it won’t get you anywhere. The best thing is just to move on and enjoy the game with or without the minutes that we expect. I was frustrated before because I did expect when somebody will promise you something and you get excited, and they it’s there and sometimes not, I checked why? Now I see for myself and just be content with what’s happening and cheer on the Dragon Ball Z when his is beasting.

    • adele

      Being a Lin fan is entertaining. Just like watching a movie. That’s why you follow him.

    • adele

      Try that with Curry, Harden, Lebron or any anointed stars if they can keep up with their stats.

    • adele

      Because when he signed in Huoston, they thought he is the face of the franchise and was given a star contract until Harden came into the picture and everything changed and the promise was thrown out of the window.

    • John Focker

      Quick but important Q: When is the earliest we can ascertain whether Hornets will renew Clifford’s contract, end of season?

    • zxcvb

      ???? There’s nothing for him to “bounce back” from. He’s not playing poorly. He just needs to play more.

      Even Steph Curry misses 5 shots in a row. Lilliard goes 4-18 every week. Lin just needs 25+mpg every night.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      That’s my biggest issue…How can Clifford justify giving Kemba 35 minutes in this game where he’s shooting poorlyHow about giving Kemba about 29minutes when he’s shooting poorly and give Lin the additional 5-6 minutes

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      That was my biggest issue that I brought even 2 weeks agi when everyone was telling me I needed to relax and wait because Clifford was simply “resting” Lin.

      The rotation is awful for Lin…He’s not even a real 6th man on this team since he’s the last guy to come off the bench + he gets subbed in very late at about 2 minutes left in the first quarter.

      And just like you stated, unless he’s very hot, he gets taken out early in the second quarter, at about the 6th minutes.

      How can any Lin fan be optimistic about the rotation Lin is under…I pray that Lin stays professional about it, but I’m getting very annoy at Lin….

      Every time I see Lin get subbed in with very few minutes left in the first quarter, I get very pissed…Why can’t Cliff bring him in a bit earlier..like the 4th minute?..Why is Kemba playing so much minutes.

    • JW

      It is so idiotic to be interviewing Lin when he didn’t really get to play as much. Lin looks to be trying to contain himself in the answer and be diplomatic. They just wanted him to be praising Batum.

      Hornets Postgame | Jeremy Lin – 11/13/15 http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/11/14/1447476001373-151113-Lin.mov-115587 via @hornets

      https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/665406130730962944

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      He can not score 13-14 point per game if he consistently get about 20minutes at best

    • zxcvb

      I don’t know if Clifford’s agenda is racial or “political,” but he’d better play Lin a lot more than 17mpg if he wants to keep his job. He’s 100% fired and the Hornets are 100% dead in the water for the next decade (who the h*** want to be in Charlotte LOL), if they don’t play Lin 30+mpg.

      CHA has already lost at least 3 games because they don’t want to let the Asian guy lead. Burn, Hornets, burn. I wish Lin would intentionally sabotage them the next game just to make a point. Barkley said he would intentionally cause a 3s violation when guys weren’t giving him the ball.

    • zxcvb

      Hornets are total garbage. Jeremy knows they’re Nets/Lakers awful w/o him. And yet he sits so Lamb can miss 4 easy shots my grandma could make and Kemba can brick 10 shots in a row.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I wonder whether Lin’s agent had called the Brooklynn Nets…they had signed PG Shane Larking under similar deal that Charlotte signed Lin…Lin is much better player than Larkin…..Lin in Brooklynn would had been best for him, as for minutes.

      My guess is Jack Jarret would had still started before Lin, but he’s 32 with no big contract to justify, so Lin would’ve gotten a fairer chance…At the very least, Lin would had definitely gotten 25 minutes at the very minimum.

      While Brooklyn is not doing too good right now, they do have better big men…Brooks Lopez is a top 10 center with rim protection skill sets…He would have made a decent PnR partner for Lin…defensively, he would had protected Lin from guard who penetrate into the paint.

      So Brooklynn would had been such a better fit….wonder why they never called Lin…I’m sure Lin would had taken the same type of money that Charlotte was offering, which is not much.

    • John Focker

      Precisely. Hornets should’ve won BOTH games against the Hawks and BOTH games against the Bulls had they played Lin more min and more time as PG.

      Hornets could and should be 7-2 and 2nd in EC right now, but sure never let winning get in the way of good ol’ politics.

    • Barry Allen

      I hope they lose every single game when they play Lin less than 20 minutes.

    • kauaiblue

      Allow? Should be lin allowing walker to play but another clueless team with its nba politics…

    • adele

      Lin thought that the coach likes him. He is somewhat deceived by the sweet talk again.

    • adele

      Don’t care if Hornets will give him an extension or not. What I care if Lin will be offered an extension or will have a contract anywhere in this league.

    • KL

      I have known from school days and throughout working life that politics always has an impact and true merit rarely gets to shine. However, in sports the ugly side of politics is so obvious (to the experienced observer). We can clearly see with our eyes and we have stats to back up what we believe.

      At the same time, in a team sport like basketball, Lin’s tremendous ability cannot truly shine unless everyone cooperates.

      So it can be very frustrating.

      Honestly it is unrealistic to expect Lin to succeed without politics holding him back, anymore than we can expect our lives to be completely free from unfair impediments like politics.

      Ultimately though, I have found great teams and great workplaces in my life. They are rare and greatly cherished by me.

      May Lin also find a real home one day.

    • KHuang

      Walker 6-22 is not “getting his”

    • KHuang

      Weak game by Lin standards.

      BUT

      at least he prevented his opponents from going off on him.

      If Lin struggles with scoring, he drags his opponent down with him.

      Lin DIDN’T get his – but neither did the Bulls against him!

    • KHuang

      If Zeller had played, the Hornets would have EASILY won.

    • KHuang

      NO.

      Coach Clifford does like Lin.

      It’s just that with Zeller out, there’s no court spacing.

    • KL

      Coach could have played Tyler Hansbrough.

    • KHuang

      Yes – and should’ve.

      Simply removing Hawes off the court so that Kaminsky and Hansbrough could be the big men would have easily gotten Lin more minutes and the win.

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      What’s so frustrating about Lin low minutes is the fact that he deserve more based on his statistics…

      Before last night game, Lin was averaging 13.3PPG while shooting 44%FG with 3 assist under just 22 minutes..Named me another player averaging that much under such minuscule minutes

      He also had a 21 PER…..That’s extremely efficient…Yet, Clifford seems to not take these numbers into account when distributing minutes.

      Clifford also stated something during the Knicks post match interview, which really bothered me…and it is that he believed in “fixed rotation and minutes” for every player, regardless of how they are playing…So even if he has a sub that is doing well all season, Cliff will give him the same minutes..I guess he will believe that the reason this one guy is doing so well is because of the fixed minutes and if he were to increased his minutes, his stats would decline.

      This seems to explain why Lin’s minute hasn’t increased as his efficiency and stats increased..Clifford doesn’t believe in rewarding players who are playing well with increased minutes…That has got to really bother Lin…He looked a bit frustrated on last night post match interview.

    • 1mtoldman

      fact: jeremy lin in the month of november so far with the charlotte hornets has played fewer minutes per game than in any other month in his career since pre-linsanity days.

      only one other month ( dec with the lakers) is even close.

    • 1mtoldman

      you are correct sir. all historic statistical evidence suggests this.

    • 1mtoldman

      dramatic difference between pre-season and regular season: the question mite be—why?

    • 1mtoldman

      ill repeat my post below here as it seems appropriate: fact: jeremy lin in the month of november so far with the charlotte hornets has played fewer minutes per game than in any other month in his career since pre-linsanity days.

      only one other month ( dec with the lakers) is even close.

      as to yer observation: “name me one…” well there isn’t one, no one rated above lin has fewer minutes except back up bigs.

      he plays fewer minutes than any other backcourt player rated above him; trey burke woud be the player his stats most closely resemble and even burke gets 1.5 more minutes per game than lin.

    • 1mtoldman

      that is correct. see my posts above.

    • kittyhead

      I think they could do this any time if they want it? The Mavericks just extended RC’s contract for 5 years and they have a team option in 2016-17.

    • Phillycheese

      After the second quarter I could tell Lin was not doing well. I had hoped he would have had a chance to recover. But as a back up he does not get those opportunities.

    • Phillycheese

      It’s not healthy having one’s self-esteem tied to a professional basketball player. So why is my day ruined?

    • Phillycheese

      You give Lin so little credit. He will be alright. His fans? Not so much.

    • Brent Yen

      Well…..overcooked Philly cheese steak?

    • David Kim

      I think Clifford set lin’s minutes 16-27. If Lin plays extremely well, he will play around 24-27mins. If Lin plays average, Lin will play around 20-23 mins . If Lin plays poorly, he will play 16-19 mins.
      That’s ridiculous.

    • adele

      He like him but he doesn’t give him consistent minutes. No trust then and not believing in Lin

    • Brent Yen

      That is not entirely true I think

    • David Kim

      Do you have any idea about lin’s minutes?

    • Brent Yen

      I mean you are not wrong, you just lack of one pre-condition….which is it depends on how others do too. LOL…

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      I agree with you here..I believe your numbers may be slightly on the high end since Lin only played 21 minutes during the Knicks game eventhough he played very well.

      If Lin plays poorly, he gets between 13-18minutes.

      If he plays average, he gets between 15-20 minutes.

      If he plays very well, he gets between 19-23 minutes.

      As long as Lin gets subbed in very late in the first quarter, he’s destined for low minutes here….Lin needs to get subbed in at around the 5th minute mark in the first quarter and third quarter..That would give him an additional 7 minutes…

      The only thing Lin can do at this point is make the best out of his low minutes.Be as efficient as possible..Even when he plays well, he won’t be playing that much more anyway.

    • grover chang

      Social studies documented Fan’s mood and self-esteem to their teams success. They were correlated. You are not alone. It’s a real phenomenon. I always feel better at work when Lin Wins.

    • CJSHYY

      Exactly. But Cliff didn’t give him the chance. smh!

    • David Kim

      Yup I think so..

    • kauaiblue

      Me too!

    • David Kim

      Lin gets subbed in around 2:30 min left in first and 3rd qt. Even though Lin plays whole qt of 2nd and 4th that will be 29mins. That’s not gonna happen. Lin should sub in earlier than that.

    • spiderman

      Lol

    • kauaiblue

      The asian comminity is growing and has highest income in usa as a group… why would nt a team want to capitalize on that alone? Instead, its turning it against nba with its poor treatment of jlin… not to mention asia!

    • kauaiblue

      uou should become a friggin coach and git him out there playing!

    • Brent Yen

      I think become a owner is better…LOL he can build a team around Lin

    • Brent Yen

      Who knows…maybe because even Kobe can get a lot of money from this particular group..?

    • kauaiblue

      Oh even better… everyone, lets pitch in and buy a team and make khuang coach…

    • kauaiblue

      Gold mine untapped…

    • Brent Yen

      We may need to use kick starter…to get about 2 billion….

    • grover chang

      I recall Lin +25 min with Rockets was .850 winning percentage. Less then 25 minutes their record was closer to 0.500. Will have to keep track this season to see if there is a similar benchmark of minutes Lin needs to play for the Win.

    • spiderman

      Silly media tends to interview Lin when team loses. Hateful media also likes to post his picture in losses (remember that game when he didn’t even play!?).
      And when they win, media likes to give any other player credit.

    • Brent Yen

      Not sure if you will get any sample point on +25 min
      LOL

    • cdblue10

      I don’t want to have a new hated site but my first time to go at the hive although not all of them,they call our site as groupies and doesn’t know anything about basketball…I just wanna say that there’s a reason why their team was sucking for the last decade because of their assessments during or after games.

    • grover chang

      He stayed productive under BS and that coach was completely clueless. I would not be surprised if Lin had a lull for a period because he does get depressed. But I have seen Lin play better after he adjusted to a bad situation.

    • sport

      25 minutes still too little, Lin needs 32 minutes every game which he’s not getting while Lamb, Batum, Al, and Walker are.

    • Brent Yen

      It is ok…..fans are like that…LOL

    • sport

      Kemba still got the most minutes 36.

    • cdblue10

      I guessed you’re right to each his own in the world of sport.

    • Brent Yen

      Focus on Lin….he will be fine..

    • cdblue10

      That’s what I’m doing right now trying to strain myself in everything….

    • Brent Yen

      Or go to sleep like Michael…LOL

    • sport

      Lin and Walker has barely played together in the past games how can they click? At least I see Lin and Walker clicking more than Batum.

    • cdblue10

      LOL

    • cdblue10

      I just woke up though…lol

    • Brent Yen

      Then here is your chance, I mean…you can’t go to sleep while you are sleeping….can you?

    • cdblue10

      LOL you didn’t change at all

    • Brent Yen

      LOL…..sounds bad….

    • cdblue10

      I mean in a good way

    • grover chang

      Soooooo…. you are advocating that we try to think smart. LOL!

    • Brent Yen

      LOL..thanks

    • ZcodeSportSystem.com

      25 minutes would be a good start…He can’t even get that, so 32 is simply a pipe dream at the moment.

    • Acbc

      The reality of this world is full of reasons to hate and to become depressed. Like last night, like the endless gun violence we see every 3-4 months. There was a statistic that more Americans die from gun violence than any domestic terrorism since 9/11. Our reality is full of negativity if we choose to let it suppress our will to be positive, and it takes a lot of will and effort to seek out the positive.

      Jlin’s reality is such a difficult one. It’s full of garbage and hate, yet he levitates above it with the will of a man possessed. Yeah, he is possessed by his faith in God. He finds love where there is hate and light where there is only darkness. For one so young to have so much strength is beyond my imagination. That’s what great athletes all do, there reveal to us that what is our limits is only defined by our own imagination. How Lin continues to remains positive is what inspires me to try harder to remain positive and to have faith and trust in the future. Athletes have to have this faith in themselves because they’ve all been told that they’re not good enough. They have to have so much personal faith that it borders on delusion. When people tell me that my faith in Lin is delusional, I just nod my head and say, absolutely.

      This site is for those of us who choose to be delusional. We deny reality and place our faith on what can be and what we hope to become.

    • Acbc

      Food again? Lol

    • Acbc

      This game was a coaching battle that Clifford lost. Why he lost or chosen to let it be a loss is another question that we’ll only know much later when we have a bigger sample size.

    • new POR PreGame thread+POLL is open. It’s good to move on to next game

      http://www.jlinportal.com/g10-por-cha-pregame-thread/

      After 2 games of hair-raising Hairsanity performance, Jeremy Lin didn’t do very well in this game to finish with 4pts/1a/1r/2stls in 17 min with 2-7 shooting. Only Nic Batum did well with 28pts amidst the horrible news of Paris terrorist attack.

      JLin: “(For end game situation), guys are comfortable playing with each other …

      We’re gonna stay ready … if our number is called

      Jeremy’s last statement in the post-game interview said it all. He clearly wasn’t happy that his number was not called.

      But he knew that coaches didn’t call his number due to the early struggle to get the 2nd unit going despite 2 strong games vs Wolves & MIN.

      He probably realized he’d need to continue to START HOT in SCORING otherwise he wouldn’t get a chance to finish games. Especially as a newcomer & 1 yr rental status, he’d have to score a lot to be given as many chances as Kemba and Lamb who have long-term contracts. The level of trust from Clifford is just not there YET.

      That’s okay. JLin is strong enough so he will regroup and think of ways to get going early to earn the trust to have his number called to finish games.

      The great thing is Hornets went 0-5 in shooting (Lamb, Batum, MWilliams) in the last 2 min and no FTs in the 4th quarter. Bulls had 6 FTs in Q4, which mattered a lot in a 5pt loss.

      Eventually Coach will realize they need JLin’s ability to draw fouls & draw defenders to finish games strong. JLamb is just not a game changer like Lin and Harden who can draw fouls at end of games. Jumpshooters will simply stop being effective when they can’t be a scorer.

      NO LIN, NO WIN!

      JLin Post-Game Interview

      MEMBERS POLL

    • Acbc

      So now Lin is blindly following the people that surround him? Smh.

    • heart

      I know you’re a Hornets/Kemba homer– so Lin couldn’t do much w/Kemba yesterday bc Kemba was hogging the ball. Please!

    • 22cents

      Lin is a one-year rental. He is not going to be used heavily unless things changed. When Hariston starts, it is clear that things are not going to change. Well at least for the moments. If they continue to play like this, watch out……No Lin…No Win.

    • 22cents

      I am not sure about that. It is obvious that Hawes did not do his job. But….he is still on the court.

    • Brent Yen

      Yes sir!

    • LinLinLin

      Tell me about it. Almost every Saturday when Lin isn’t properly utilised by the Hornets and his mistreatment witnessed by millions of fans in China live, my whole weekends ruined, just like that…sigh.

    • chronoshifter

      i think in the video lin said “when” our number is called, not “if”, just fyi.

    • LAJane

      Well said. Except, for me, the last sentence and the idea that seeing the “glass half full” instead of half empty is somehow delusional or a denial of reality. Both are nothing more than points of view by our small, filter-biased minds – both equally unreal constructions. One side leans towards possibility and the other leans towards protection – yin/yang, if you will. And of course “reality” is the play of both. In this particular case, I’m leaning, as Lin does, towards the possibility side you so eloquently start with.

    • LAJane

      It’s quick and easy to blather out the emotion-of-the-moment and opinion-pulled-out-of-your-backside. Much more effort to actually PAY ATTENTION. You are discovering that most humans are just not willing to put in the effort. Why bother, when you can find validation with other herd members, and can have the fun of an invigorating shouting-match as a bonus. Don’t look for reason where it will not be found. Learning to skim doesn’t mean only picking out who is agreeable. You can learn to quickly find those with intelligent differences of opinion while filtering out the algae on the surface 🙂

      Of course, some ponds have been completely deadened by toxic algae. Don’t bother to go to those places.

    • 22cents

      Lin is a prototype player. His existence may have significant impact of the NBA in the near future. Like Curry, he is having his chance now. Let’s hope that Lin will get his chance.

      When you are breaking paradigm, almost everybody is in denial mode. Ha Ha.

    • Steppen03

      Why the h*** Lamb got 30+ min. ? JL7 haven’t gotten 30+ min game yet – Not even one… and he’s the clutch player from the start (preseason and regular). Why Lamb got a chance and not Lin ? contract, long term player, etc… But isn’t the purpose IS to win game ?? Not faith in Lin ? My high on CCliff drastically deminish after this game. If we’re blowing out team then I understand resting Lin for another game but… Just like last Bulls game he benched Lin in final few minutes – and I refused to blame Cliff due to the fact that we’re winning. I don’t want to have negative feelings but this does not good – not in the direction that we all hope for. Lin is simply a one year rental – a good role player for the FO. Lin is playing behind Lamb. Period.

    • Acbc

      Sorry for the poetic licence with the wording. I don’t believe that we are delusional at all, but rather, I accept the opinion by others who call me that as a put down because that to me is infinitely better than accepting to just exist in fear of this reality.

      The existential world we live in is given as proof that we are an insignificant speck in time and space. When life is meaningless, life becomes without value and death is just another experience of that existence…like Hemingway blowing his brains out las just aother validation of his existence. I deny this reality completely.

      Some believe that the universe and reality itself is a construct of our beliefs. It has been proposed by writers and novelists that the science we discover reveals itself by the dreams and visions we create for the science to follow. The reverse pyramid of science we live on is precariously balanced. Our existence even for those who claim to have no faith is held upright by that faith in the construct of that pyramid. Lol. In the end we are choosing to believe in our own insignificance. In the end, the difference between having faith is God is no different than having faith in our own construct of our existence.

    • Barry Allen

      No idea, mine is still intact and I am having a great day. Maybe don’t let 1 game affect it 🙂

    • GoodDayLA

      I know we are all glass half empty, but looking at it, Lin’s finished like 3/4 of the game so far and against NYC, Kemba was just benched. That rarely happens to starting PG with Jordan Brand shoe deals, on a team Jordan owns no less.

      So credit the team or Clifford for even allowing Lin to close 1 game at all at PG.

      It is risky business and I’m telling you Clifford is putting himself out there for Lin because Clifford does believe in Lin but knows he will lose his job if Lin does not come through for him while he benches Kemba.

      Lin has to be playing so insane, Clifford knows there is no chance Lin can fail if he benches Kemba.

      Clifford was not feeling that against the Bull from Lin. And Kemba had ok scoring stats. So of course he will play Kemba.

      It’s really up to Lin to make it easy for Clifford.

      It’s not Clifford job to ressurect Lin’s career. People here get confused.

    • GoodDayLA

      If Cho is a closet Lin fan, he will trade some people soon for a great pick and roll man who can athletically finish because that will allow Lin to look like gold.

    • LAJane

      …looking down our hall of mirrors. 🙂