G78 CHA @ NYK Game Thread

With 5 games left, the Hornets would need to win the majority of the games in order to have a chance to secure a home-court advantage as the 3rd or 4th seed in the first round of playoff. Jeremy Lin showed why he can be a true starter in the NBA after finishing with 21pts/7asts/4rebs in 40 minutes with 4-6 sharp-shooting from 3pt land. Had Kemba shoot slightly better than 4-16, the Hornets would have a chance to win the game vs the Raptors

  • JLin continued to raise his starter stats in 12 games to an impressive 18.1pts/4.9asts with 45%3PG. Hopefully it will impress many teams convincing them that he is a true starter in the NBA when given the chance. The impressive part is he doesn’t need to always have the ball in his hands to play well

    • Would Lin play a lot due to a swollen elbow (elbow bursitis) in the next night vs the Knicks?

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s hope and pray JLin continue to hit his stride and carry the momentum to lead to big wins.


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MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 79 vs BKN

  • 1mtoldman

    not first. guest appearance since i dont post here anymore. but how can i resist this naked thread.

  • jason

    First-time

  • hi @1mtoldman:disqus, good to hear from you 🙂
    Hope you’re doing well

    Let’s hope JLin stays healthy and can make a NY-size splash tonight and more importantly in the playoff!

  • DX

    2nd, hope Lin will play if feel well.

  • vincent

    hoping Lin will start again. Want Batum healthy, but would love to see Lin drop some Linsanity back at MSG tonight

  • HVJoy

    Wonder about the elbow injury — if Lin gets treatment in time for the Knicks game. If Lin does play, hope the elbow injury does not slow him down. Go, Lin!

  • cdblue10

    Any word if he’s playing tonite?

  • Arsenium12 .

    Off topic. Here is a nice video of Sun Moon Lake in Taiwan, done by Eric Lu and Elaine Coin. Eric is a co-founder of the Jubilee Project. He and Elaine were in Charlotte a few days ago to interview Jeremy for a film Eric is involved in.
    __________

  • heart

    Beautiful nature setting!

  • Someone here asked if JLin shooting gets better when he gets 30-40 min.

    Yes, when @JLin7 gets MORE min, his shooting% gets BETTER
    45%-54% 3FG in 30-40min #Unleashed
    47%-49% FG in 30-40 min
    It’s amazing to see how all his shooting % (2P, 3P, TS% including FT) gets better as his minutes are increased.
    Note: The same doesn’t apply with all players as they tend to get less efficient with more min.
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/717761868756979713

  • picture of JLin’s swollen elbow 🙁
    we need to pray and hope for quick healing

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/717746102510833664

  • Acbc

    Lol, I haven’t posted for a couple of weeks but couldn’t resist answering you’re naked response.

  • Sophie Paris

    Hi, where have u been?
    Cause I never see u out
    Are you hiding from me, yeah?
    Haha

  • dave lam

    Just a shout out to my spiritual brothers and sisters to keep believing for deep playoff run with Lin and the Hornets.

  • donsmacau

    Will never show on a stat sheet but most of JLIN’s true fans will consider Spurs game a start – a baffling 7pt Q1 – the game really STARTED when JLIN answered the call for a LEADER.

    if you add the Spurs game as 13th Start:

    18.9 pts
    4.7 asts
    52.6% 3PG

  • Rick Johnson

    Sounds like another Archaic old school Byron Scott type situation. Hope Lin doesn’t go back to the Knicks:

    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/717563373911584768

  • donsmacau

    Seems like an odd tweet because Phil Jackson is the President of Basketball Operations so only Dolan can object but Dolan has made clear that Phil makes the decisions. So who is Phil trying to convince when “pushing for the team”? since he has the power to make Rambis the HC by fiat? Could it be Carmelo he is trying to convince?

  • Rick Johnson

    Maybe it’s a sneaky way (spread false rumor) to get Carmelo to waive his no trade clause and leave the Knicks. He will think “I’m not staying around for this train wreck” Knicks can’t rebuild with Melo taking up cap space and play time on their roster.

  • Ronnie Nunn confirmed the Flagrant Foul on JLin video is fair along with the letter.
    Congrats to @JAD7534:disqus and friends who worked hard to bring awareness to @nba and @nbaofficial
    This is very important to prevent and deter future flagrant fouls in JLin’s career.

    @NunnBetterRefs Ronnie Nunn
    Fair video and letter to NBA for both JLin and any other mishaps in FF judgments affecting other players as well.

    https://twitter.com/NunnBetterRefs/status/717791405884719104

  • donsmacau

    I like this theory!

  • Rick Johnson

    NBA Trade Rumors 2016: New York Knicks Should Move Carmelo Anthony, Says Charles Barkley

    http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/61208/20160403/nba-trade-rumors-2016-new-york-knicks-should-move-carmelo-anthony-says-charles-barkley.htm

    The retired NBA superstar said that the Knicks cannot rebuild while Anthony, who is playing in the second season of his five-year deal worth $124 million, is in New York.

    “Yes for draft picks or something, whatever you can do you,” Barkley said via SNY, when asked if the Knicks should trade Anthony this summer. “You can’t have one guy making $30 million on your team if it’s not going anywhere because you won’t never be able to rebuild.”

  • kauaiblue

    Stick around a while, 1mtoldman!

  • DX

    ‘Charlotte Hornets’ Assistant Coach, Patrick Ewing, Interested in Knicks Head Coaching Job’ via FanSided Android

    http://swarmandsting.com/?p=40487

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    What Barkley said was his opinion as he gets paid to say…..NOT a trade rumor like these webs claimed to be.

  • heart

    Thank you @JAD7534, @K. Chan, @Psalm. Every time I watched these videos, my stomach gets knots and then my anger arises. I would also suggest that this complaint letter and videos be sent to the Hornets organization and its media. If you don’t hear any responses from the NBA, then send these out to the press at large. Since the NBA and biased refs have allowed these types of barbaric bullying behaviors to go on against Lin w/o any kinds of retribution nor punishment; therefore, these players will continue their bad deeds w/o any conscience. Documentation is key to bring these bad behaviors to light. Ultimately, even after fans bringing attention/notice to the NBA and they still allow this kind of unsafe working condition/environment to exist w/o taking any immediate correction, then the NBA as an entity is a culprit and Lin has a case for damages. His agents and lawyers need to get on this too!

  • sws94

    Porzingis is doubtful. Makes it a lot easier on the Hornets if he doesn’t play.

  • I’m also appreciative that this was put together.

  • TTNN

    Hey, sws94, see that behind the back crossover in the game? how do you think about Lin’s handle now? LOL

    https://youtu.be/D5YXU4SSkWU?t=6m33s

  • TTNN

    Lin has been icing down his shoulder the last couple of games. And if you look at this, starting 5:59, obviously his shoulder is giving him some problem. i hope he could sit out some games to rest it up.

    https://youtu.be/D5YXU4SSkWU?t=5m59s

  • NONONO

    Rest Lin and he would do great in the playoffs (if Clifford did not try to stop him).

  • Rick Johnson

    Wouldn’t that be interesting if Lin / Parsons / Howard reunite and really take off? Would mean that without Harden, Beverly & McHale that 2014 team could have gone far:

    https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/717803298124763136

  • NONONO

    If Clifford would rest Kemba tonight for the playoffs, I could see Lin got 25 points, 10 assists in 30 mins and EASY win. If Kemba played 35 mins, Knicks would win.

  • Rick Johnson

    Cliff would rather drive Kemba into the ground, blow the playoffs than give Lin a chance at starting PG.

  • sws94

    I thought Lin’s handle was very impressive in this game, but not only this one, others as well. I’m beginning to think Lin could play on a very high level against most opponents. Just my opinion, and this relates to what I do for a living, but I think sometimes our own thoughts and awareness of self makes us notice things and make mistakes. When we just let things happen, if the skills are already there, without too much thought and go more on instinct, then we come closest to reaching our highest capabilities. He can continue to practice skills, but he mostly has them down.

  • NONONO

    HAHA. i wonder if it was Clifford’s intention too.

  • NONONO

    “Charles Barkley implores NBA to move All-Star Game from N.C. over anti-LGBT law”
    I totally agree with it and stop Hornets’ Kemba hype before it is too late.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/04/06/charles-barkley-implores-nba-to-move-all-star-game-out-of-north-carolina/

  • donsmacau

    Oh, you’re “beginning to think Lin could play on a very high level against most opponents”.

    Study up a bit on JLIN’s history in the NCAA and NBA, most who take an objective, open-minded, fair& balance examination of JLIN’s basketball career come to that conclusion remarkably quicky.

    Just apply some effort and a few minutes to learning about JLIN’s game it does wonders to strip off prejudice and preconceptions.

    Good luck to you.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too.

  • sws94

    No, good luck to you. i’m fine.

  • donsmacau

    It’s amazing how oblivious you are to how conceited your comments are in relation to JLIN.

    Borders on amusing how you simply have absolutely no conception of how such a passive backhanded compliment such as “beginning to think Lin could play on a very high level against most opponents” plays, — very telling.

  • Rick Johnson

    Wonder if he had to show ID at security?

    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/717830340207894528

  • Rick Johnson
  • sws94

    TTNN, can you please post that pic of Lin’s elbow here?

    It’s amazing he could play with that. It looks bad.

  • kauaiblue

    Charles doing good work… what a backward place charlotte is! Im surprised bc so many nyer liberals have moved there…

  • kauaiblue

    Rambis or ewing? Knicks in trouble.

  • kauaiblue

    Thank you. Ronnie nunn cool on my book.

  • kauaiblue

    I second heart… thank you!

  • kauaiblue

    Moron #2

  • Feel free to use this pic to call attention to “JLin Flagrant Foul” in tweets/FB to promote @JAD7534:disqus video to Adam Silver or @nbaofficial

    @NBA @NBAOfficial Please protect players safety by calling #FlagrantFoul on headshots on air
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/717834220685504512

  • Rick Johnson
  • sws94

    Here’s the picture TTNN posted on the RealGM site in the Hornets Lin thread.

  • Alain Gervais

    wow

  • blubell
  • TTNN

    Easy…. It is still a progress, and baby steps is okay….

  • Clifford > McHale in praising JLin to shape media opinions

    That’s 1 important thing that JLin did right this year.
    Not choosing a coach who won’t praise him (i.e. BScott, McHale)

    This is also important for the impending FA

  • yes, a lot of work was definitely poured into it

  • DX

    Lin is really tough.

  • sws94

    What’s the most amount of 3 pointers Lin has hit in a game this season? I believe he hit 4 last night. Is that the most this season? I think his record is 9, that he had in a game against Philly as a Rocket.

    I think Lin’s shooting will be much better next season.

  • Guest

    How could he shoot straight with that swollen elbow?I hope there is enough time for the elbow to heal.

  • blubell
  • sws94

    How do you treat an elbow like that? Ice? Do you drain it? Anyone know?

  • sws94

    Shot looks good. Fluid.

  • CJSHYY

    Really want to know who is this Dennis Ginobili? LOL!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    He is a journalist from Taiwan. He refused to tell me his name but I sort of know which one if I see his name:-)

  • CJSHYY

    I know he’s from Taiwan. My guess probably from 緯來體育組. That’s why Lin knew him… haha!

  • bolero
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes.

  • yes, check out Top 3 games that Lin hit at least three 3pointers

    4 SAS 29pts (bench)
    4 TOR 21pts (starter)
    3 LAC 26pts (starter)

    When JLin hits the 1st 3pointer, he tends to take more attempts.
    And he naturally will hit the 1st shot when he’s in rhythm after the shoot-around before the game starts.
    So it’s more incentive to root for him to start games and get lots of PT

    We might see close to 9 3pointers with him being a starter 😀

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/linje01/gamelog/2016/

  • TTNN

    the best is 4, the most 3FGA is 6. The got 4 3FGM in that spur game too.

  • sws94

    That’s a nutty response, way over the top and typical of that guy.

    Anyway, very high level means more like in the Linsanity run, but it is closer to his normal all season. Maybe not so much points, but almost every night, on a consistent level, against any opponent, he could do this. Lin said himself he plays better when he goes on instinct and doesn’t think too much. HOF player Worthy said Lin is a very good player but sometimes thinks too much. Manager Joe Torre was saying about a pitcher who wasn’t hitting the strike zone he was thinking too much, not just letting go and letting his natural talent take over. This isn’t anything new I’m saying. It’s what some in the know have said on some athletes. Just my opinion, I feel it applies to JLin and sometimes gets in the way of his playing on his highest level.

    You mentioned handling. I sensed no doubt or thinking last night. Just him doing what he’s capable of doing and it was very impressive.

  • spiderman

    Notice 3 of 4 flagrant-foulers above are so-called “superstars”
    They can’t beat him in basketball, so they literally beat him with referees help

  • sws94

    Thanks.

  • KWC

    Yeah, this is especially important for the bad defense narrative. Much more credibility when coming from the coach than from screaming fans.

  • heart

    Is this the same sports group that had a video made when Lin went undercover as a salesman or sports trainer?

  • Linzen

    Maybe he is asking for JLin’s credentials like, “this is restricted area, you know?”… hahaha…

  • donsmacau

    Baby steps.
    Here is a poster that comments on JLIN incessantly but is still at the baby step stage in understanding JLIN and how JLIN’s game fits in the NBA world.

  • Linzen

    More importantly, Clifford is a coach known for his defense.

  • CJSHYY

    Not really sure that it’s w 緯來? But Lin did a TV program w them for his foundation fund.

  • Rick Johnson
  • heart

    Ok. Must be someone that has connections to the Taiwan media in order for them to have access to the team.

  • CJSHYY

    So Lin is not start today… Kemba show time….?

  • Linzen

    Booooooo

  • Rick Johnson

    One playmaker. Shut down Kemba that’s it.

  • Rick Johnson

    Ok 1/2 a playmaker

  • CJSHYY

    Lin probably will play less min today due to injury?

  • adele

    Smh!

  • heart

    Politics at work. Lin assisted Frank yesterday to make some buckets. Lin was the key of offense while playing off the ball. Yet someone on this forum credited Frank for playing well. I guess Cliff thinks so too. So today instead of rewarding Lin for his good work, Cliff rewards the beneficiary of Lin’s good work, Kam gets to start, SMH! Though I already knew this would happen but I still want to get it off my chest! SMH!

  • Win

    Well. No complain after a 40 mins game yesterday and a bowling ball elbow. It is ok for Lin to play less today. I actually think he should sit out. He has done enough to proves that he is a TG STARTER!

  • Win

    PG Starter I mean. 🙂

  • Win

    I doesn’t matter if Clifford means it. All GM can see Lin is not a liability on the defensive end. The is BIG for Lin next free agency.

    And McHale, please go to h***. Thanks to you Lin has spent 2 season to rehab the “Can’t Defense” labeled by this jerk!!!!!

  • TTNN

    I think coach want Marvin to guard Melo instead of Lee.

  • CJSHYY

    Looks like Lin probably will have so so stats today w less min & took few shots only… smh! Why Plays? Kemba will play hard today to get the win unlike last night… smh!

  • TTNN

    Kemba was from NY so he will always try to impress when he is playing in the Garden.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is that even a real picture?..That looks cartoonish.

  • CJSHYY

    Why not ask for a trade then? MJ so dumb he should trade Kemba this summer & get the backup PG from Hawks instead.

  • It’s possible that Lin won’t start due to:
    1. bigger lineup matchup that the Knicks presents (Grant/Vujacic/DWilliams at 6’4″/6’7″/6’8″) compared to Raptors smaller lineup
    2. JLin’s swollen elbow need more rest
    3. Kemba not playing well yesterday so Cliff hopes he gets a good start not sharing the ball with Lin

  • heart

    Redemption game for KW of course. Lin will take his spot light if he starts w/ him. Very obvious.

  • CJSHYY

    Frank will do that.

  • TTNN

    Don’t agree with #3, I think coach don’t want Lee to guard Melo, so he shift Marvin to SF.

  • heart

    #3 is most likely!

  • Win

    Good catch. That’s what I thought too. At this point i hardly think Clifford will still mess with JLin PT. All he wants is W. Whether or not he believes in Lin as X Factor /Game changer is a different story though.

  • bigger lineup is definitely the biggest factor, I think

  • TTNN

    Frank guard Melo? Not sure you trust that rookie’s defense on Melo though

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I personally feel the NBA should stay out of politics and keep it sports.

  • CJSHYY

    #3. Maybe Lin didn’t want to play w Kemba… from his post game interview last night. He’s not happy about Kemba’s performance. Haha! It’s OK only 5 more game to go. LOL!

  • sws94

    Sure does. When I saw the Hornets he scored 39 I think. They lost.

  • TTNN

    yeah.

    however, I doubt coach will ever think Kemba not playing well though. LOL

  • adele

    Very true. Politics at work all right!

  • Win

    Agreed. No matter what he has show he is willing to play Lin over 30 mins.

    Whether or not he is a smart coach then is a different story. By still he is WAY WAY WAY better than McHale and the dumb Byron Scott. Especailly Scott, he is a joke.

  • Win

    Ehhhh. I hardly believe any teams will give much back to Hornets for Kemba to be honest. Another word, Hornets is kinda stuck with Kemba and have no where to go.

  • sws94

    But Porg is not playing. It’s OK. Lin may need to play less minutes tonight. He went 40 last night. But last night, they needed Lin in there and Toronto is a strong team. Knicks aren’t so Cliff can experiment a little.

  • adele

    Thank you heart. You’re basically right.

  • CJSHYY

    I know Kemba always wants to do that… but NY media don’t care about him. LOL!

  • sws94

    I think Scott is a borderline disgrace. No, disgrace.

  • Win

    Glad you agreed. 🙂

  • bolero

    or benched for criticizing Kemba. lol

  • sws94

    Careful of site rules, Win. But I agree with you!

  • Win

    No worries. Lin can shine as a starter or coming off the bench. What really worry me is his elbow though….

  • Win

    He should also stay away from Melo as far as possible. Whom know what he gonna do to Lin. That jerk.

  • CJSHYY

    I hate Cliff, he knew Lin doesn’t have good stats why asked him to play for few min w few shots to lower his stats just to make himself feel safe to win the game? smh!

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think Melo is that bad compare to Kemba… LOL!

  • donsmacau

    Lowry/Powell/Derozen 6’/6’4″/6’7″

    So Kemba now on a significantly taller man – but Lin and Lee could guard Knicks if Clifford wanted but Cliff has different plans.

  • Win

    What??? Melo push Lin out of NY. Calling his contract ridiculous, upper cut Lin, etc, etc.

    And you actually using Kemba as comparison to Melo???

    NO WAY!

  • heart

    Melo undercut Lin’s face; chased him off the team; back stabbed him w/ his ‘ridiculous’ comment. Sorry, Melo is just as bad.

  • TTNN

    LOL

  • Win

    Melo is way worst. I understand why people hate Kemba which I am not agree with it.

    But Melo, Harden, Kobe, Mchale and BS, I will hates them for life!!!!

  • CJSHYY

    We all know what Melo did but Kemba is smiling all the time but who knows what’s behind the door? I really believe why Lin couldn’t play his game & PG in this team.. sure had something to do w Kemba not feel comfortable on that….

  • CJSHYY

    Go NYK.

  • TTNN

    ???

  • CJSHYY

    I want NYK win this game even I don’t think they will.

  • Win

    You were right. Who knows? Therefore I can only see Lin is enjoy this season so I believe Kemba is cool with Lin. Most of the Lin fans hate Kemba is solely because he is playing the same position as Lin and he is the face of the franchise which Hornets have decided to bet on Kemba way before Lin’s arrival.

  • KWC

    Why? Because Lin not starting?

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t hate him just don’t like him. Well, season end soon.

  • Yascar

    Looks like they are praying.

  • Wouldn’t JLin 20+pts and Hornets win be better for NY publicity and Jlin FA?

  • CJSHYY

    No don’t matter. In fact, I don’t want him to play.

  • Win

    I don’t hate him but I don’t think any special about him. I also wants to see Lin start as a PG next season. Even if mean he has to leave Hornets.

    Go Lin!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Lin will not today.

  • Over Lin’s elbow 😄😄🙏😂

  • blubell
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Have to say, miss Frazier the man.

  • Win

    Exactly as TTNN said. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    PR. Or Lin’s fans go mad…LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    Lin will start next season in another team. He will out of Hornets for sure IMO.

  • LAJane

    Crazy high NY rents are driving folks out into the weeds.

  • Yes I miss his exquisite vernacular 👍👍

  • Let’s hope so if he plays

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Hope so.

  • CJSHYY

    I will listen to Frazier not Hornets.

  • Win

    Haha. As long as he can get the “key” from the FO and he can start as PG, I have no problem with it.

  • DX

    Guess hope many points starters will behind before Lin come in.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK sucks, Hornets will do well today I think…

  • sws94

    MSG just did on a piece on Lin showing his excellent starter stats. But also mentioned the bursitis in his elbow that may affect his play. Said he has discomfort in it.

  • KWC

    Hmm don’t know. Want him to have a good game but not have to work too hard.

  • sws94

    In the realgm they changed the logo to say Wesuck, lol.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Lin should really back to NYK… NY really loves him. hope Melo join LBJ this summer. LOL!

  • jimmyL

    What?

  • sws94

    TTNN knows his stuff. Great poster.

  • cdblue10

    i love the knicks commentator better

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. Really like them a lot.

  • cdblue10

    let’s go!!!!

  • sws94

    I think many Knicks fans would love to see that for sure.

  • David Ly

    As expected, Fox Sports Charlotte cover Lin in Cold Hard Facts because they are playing in New York and starting yesterday. Are they pushing for Lin to start next year? Probably not, but good to see this from the media hoping for it to emanate across he league.

    Actually just found out he isn’t starting tonight.

  • Win

    MW on fire early.

  • KWC

    Frazier = voice of Linsanity. Automatically link you back to the good times.

  • jimmyL

    So I guess Lin is not starting today

  • LinMadd

    any mods here? can I ask how long my ban is for LinMad? It’s been 6 days. I don’t think it’s fair that I get banned so long for calling some people old perverts (that weren’t specifically called out. I didn’t mention any names on here.)

  • Win

    what is up with the box out?

  • LinMadd

    i think it’s a cover up to start Frank over Lin. It’s a cover up so Kemba can ball hog more. They said they put in Frank for rebounds cause we had trouble with rebounding last game but Frank isn’t even good at rebounding.

  • cdblue10

    mods i agree,6 days is too long for a punishment

  • KWC

    Anyone saw the latest game of zones? Kaminsky has a part.

  • LinMadd

    its longer than 6 days…i dont know how long it is

  • Win

    Hornets D really take a hit with out Batum. Not that he is a elite defender imo though.

  • LinMadd

    they take a hit without Lin and Lee

  • only supposed to be 3 days..
    sorry, just removed it 🙂
    Disqus needs to step up the game

    welcome back 🙂

  • Win

    Sorry to see u got ban. But always a first time right? I got banned once too.

  • jimmyL

    Courtney Lee 6-5 simply cannot guard Melo 6-8
    Let’s be realistic here. Melo is an elite scorer with sharp shooting
    He would score over him all game with ease

  • LinMadd

    that’s odd, maybe some other mod added extra days.

  • kauaiblue

    lol… must be a desperate situation… lol

  • Win

    Lin for sure. Lee is only ok yesterday. Kemba was just bad yesterday.

  • grover chang

    Walker loves MSG.

  • no, Disqus needs automated feature implemented soon 🙂

  • LinMadd

    i think my other username is still blocked. I just tried to login.

  • LinMadd

    I called it. Kemba is ball hogging hardcore right now. No ball movement like Lin.

  • ok, try again..
    there were 2 entries

  • kauaiblue

    whoa, surprise! walker doing well against a really bad team!

  • Linzen

    Notice Cody just rolls hard to the rim, then realize, “Oh, I am not playing with Lin now. Just focus on rebound…” lol

  • Promo Sports World

    Walker and Lin love MSG should be a good night

  • LinMadd

    Cliff lets KW statpad against bad teams. Against good teams, he will only bring Lin to start or play lots of minutes from the bench only if starters got embarrassed in first quarter or previous game.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK D is bad. Everyone seems to be shoot well vs this NYK team.

  • KWC

    3pts falling tonight

  • gum

    I see Rosebud with her boys by the court side. The boys are wearing Lin shirts. Go Jeremy!

  • heart

    No defense from Knicks. Lots of space/separation to shoot.

  • LinMad

    ok my username is back, thanks

  • CJSHYY

    Rose always shows up to support Lin. Haha!

  • Guest

    As long as hornets are winning Lin can rest his elbow, getting ready for the playoffs。

  • LinMad

    i wonder if Batum sits out this long, when its time for playoffs he might be on a shooting slump.

  • KWC

    No need to do too much today, Lin. Get some rest. Just a trip dub is fine.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! They are bad in D.

  • Win

    Ehh. Kurt Rambis seem like a nice dude from the interview just played.

  • Win

    Agreed

  • Check out how the media is catching-up on JLin’s impressive stats in 12 games as starter vs Jerian Grant
    #BringLinBacktoNY campaign 🙂

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/717859871635275777

  • LinMad

    i should be watching Knicks feed…

  • CJSHYY

    Of course.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin in

  • CJSHYY

    So early?

  • Michael

    I’m right here

  • DX

    Good for Kemba found feeling back. But no way to get a win in play off if play like this.

  • LinMad

    lets see, Cliff decided to start Frank for more rebounds early on. Currently, Frank has 0 rebounds but 4 shot attempts only making 1. Cliff doesn’t know his players.

  • DX

    Not really, already 5 minutes.

  • LinMad

    Wow, Carmelo just PnR against us. That’s how horrible our bigs are at interior d.

  • Win

    I honestly thinks Cliff is willing to play Lin as PG more often in playoffs if it mean the team can win. Clifford not a smart coach but he surely wanna win no matter what.

  • Pete Roces

    That’s what a clueless coach would do.

  • heart

    Lin has not had any touches yet. Please keep an eye on it.

  • Michael

    So basically Rick is saying Melo has a fat….you know.

  • LinMad

    Something tells me Cliff will try the Kemball strategy a few times though until it fails the first 2 games. Then he’ll decide to start Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    I know. NO chance yet.

  • DX

    Good for his elbow.

  • Pete Roces

    This will be a boring game, Lin being freezed out by selfish teammates.

  • Win

    If KW play the role like Nick young or a purely scorer and let Lin run the offense more often, Hornets might surprise a lot of people imo.

  • Rick Johnson

    Carmelo out already. He soft.

  • LinMad

    lol maybe he pulled his groin again

  • Lee and Lin share this ‘minimum touches’ role when Kemba is hitting shots
    Lee 0-2 for 0 pts in 8 min

  • LinMad

    Lin’s only window is 2nd quarter when KW sits. But with KW having a good day, he might keep playing.

  • Win

    Yes. He will try Kemba first. As I have mentioned before, he has no choice.

    But he still not a smart coach.

  • Pete Roces

    Walker is an all star against cellar dwellers, what a stat padding wannabee he is.

  • heart

    Lin has Not one touch of the rock yet!

  • Win

    I don’t even know why he still play. He is a SUPER START, CORNER STONE so sit you butt out since Knicks is not going anywhere this season.

  • Sophie Paris

    Lin will get touches once Walker sits

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! WE know…

  • Pete Roces

    Hornets will be the dark horse. However, the owner, manager, coach, players all have their own agenda, they will never sacrifice their own cause for the team’s success, thats what separate these bad teams from the elite ones.

  • heart

    Only if he sits. KW is hogging the ball to pad stats and to redeem for yesterday’s poor shooting. Knicks don’t defend him like Raptors.

  • DX

    Lin’s game usually starts at 2nd Q.

  • Michael

    Purely basketball wise I’d have to agree with CJ, as for personalities I totally agree with thee, Melo is as petty as they come. (petty not pretty )

  • LinMad

    phantom foul

  • Linzen

    That’s a BBBBSSSSSSSSSS call

  • heart

    PHANTOM FOUL on LIN! SMH!!!!

  • Pete Roces

    Unless Lin has his own team, NBA refs will never respect him, they just consider him as an asian scrub. That’s NBA!

  • Win

    gotta box out man!

  • Pete Roces

    time to wait for highlights, this game sucks!

  • Win

    Hornets Bigs are going to be the biggest weakness in the playoff.

  • KWC

    Not a single shot in 5+ min

  • CaliUSMC

    5MINS AND LIN STILL HASNT TOUCHED THE BALL WTF?

  • cdblue10

    That’s a 4 mins wasted time on the court

  • Sophie Paris

    Can’t wait xD

  • LinMad

    5 minutes of statue of Linberty. How can Cliff do this to the “catalyst” of the team.

  • GoJLin!

    Because KW Play 12 min entire 1stQ!

  • DX

    Still someone want Lin stay Hornets as Kemba’s backup.

  • cdblue10

    The thing that I understand is that Walker always played the whole 1st quarter?

  • heart

    ONLY AJ passed once to Lin to run up court. Once he’s there Lin passed to Lee then Lee passed back to AJ. ONE short meaningless touch!

  • LinMad

    and sometimes part of 2nd quarter start too

  • Win

    Can Al even jump?

  • Sophie Paris

    Yea they still do this stupid MIP campaign

  • cdblue10

    it’s a stupid rotation

  • Win

    Smart move to put MW back in to guard Melo.

  • Rick Johnson
  • Win

    The Alfense is not working tonite.

  • cdblue10

    it’s happening!!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Morey next hopefully

  • Win

    LMAO Melo gonna be in Shaqtin’ A Fool

  • LinMad

    lol that pass by Carmelo

  • cdblue10

    flagrant 2

  • KWC

    Hawes awesome as usual.

  • Michael

    I just saw a ufo fly by..lol

  • David Kim

    Marc Stein
    Marc Stein – Verified account ‏@ESPNSteinLine

    ESPN sources say Sam Hinkie has stepped down from his posts in Philadelphial
    5:02 PM – 6 Apr 2016
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  • Win

    I say flagrant 1

  • CaliUSMC

    He got scared and helped marvin backed up lol

  • KWC

    Where is Mulder

  • Alain Gervais

    Team looks dead

  • cdblue10

    Brown would be next

  • LinMad

    from the other site…made me giggle

    “who kemba?

    you mean like against okc, san antonio, la clippers, toronto, utah, detroit, cleveland, memphis, and indiana?

    all playoff teams Kemba dropped 25+ on

    obvious troll is obvious”

  • BobbyH

    The first domino has fallen.

  • LinMad

    iced Lin, ball movement takes a hit.

  • zxcvb
  • sws94

    Yeah, tired team.

  • Win

    What a bs call.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba hogging, Lin frozen out and banged up.

  • Michael

    Do the knicks practice head blocking..

  • Win

    My god. Al really got to go. He can’t jump at all!

  • Rick Johnson

    Jefferson weak on defense. Hornets need a real rim protecting big.

  • LinMad

    2nd unit playing like a bunch of Kemba’s except Lin. They are looking out for their own shots.

  • Alain Gervais

    The offense looks clogged.

  • Alain Gervais

    No one is moving around its iso every time

  • Win

    Exactly. Put Hansbrough in.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba hogging makes everyone else hog. They’re worried about their own stats. Kemba is a kancer.

  • LinMad

    lessons will be learned by coaches if we lose to Knicks today. I hope we do.

  • CJSHYY

    Why Cliff asked Lin to play today? As I thought he will get bad stats… smh!

  • zxcvb

    That’s why! Let Kemba statpad against a terrible team, lower injured Lin’s stats while doing dirty work.

  • LinMad

    Lin should just sit cause Cliff doesn’t want to let him be backup PG. Why does Lee, Lamb handle the rock so much? They are put in to shoot the ball and play defense, not create plays.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree he should not play today… if he only will pass the ball just ask Lee to do it.

  • Alain Gervais

    We look so lifeless right now

  • LinMad

    tied game lol, this is what happens when you ice Lin for 5 minutes and then ice him some more.

  • CJSHYY

    Hard to believe it’s not winning big yet?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Bigs are so bad

  • zxcvb

    Game is irrelevant Kemba statpadding.

    Real drama is in Philly! Just as we predicted, Hinkie is out. Colangelo (albeit BRYAN) is looking to take over as GM.

    Will Brown be let go this summer w/ MDA taking over?

  • Win

    Al was the main reason why.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba iced first. Then Al. Domino effect of Kemba’s selfishness.

  • LinMad

    Is Colangelo a good thing for Lin? Does he like Lin?

  • Win

    Zeller! Way better than Al

  • Rick Johnson

    Zeller at center much better than Big Al

  • Lefon Jang

    3333333333

  • Win

    Lin 33333333333

  • zxcvb

    Colangelos are very close with MDA. And we know MDA is Lin’s only big head coach fan.

  • Win

    Offensive foul!

  • KWC

    And out

  • sws94

    There you go Lin. Exploded by a guy guarding him too close. Hit the 3. Drew offensive foul. Good job.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • LinMad

    that 333 was over Carmelo

  • zxcvb

    Gotta keep his stats down.

  • wow.. Hinkie is forced to step down this early?

  • zxcvb

    Even I’m surprised. I thought they’d wait till summer.

  • Win

    You can tell KW is willing to play with Lin. He has pass the ball to Lin many times last night imo

  • HVJoy

    33333 finally!

  • CaliUSMC

    ASSIST TO LEE

  • Win

    Who is guarding Vujacic?

  • I am The Jason
  • sws94

    Geez. Lin’s speed.

  • Lefon Jang

    Vuj fouled Lin no whistle!

  • CaliUSMC

    LIN GETS NO CALL WTF

  • LinMad

    i heard that slap

  • sws94

    Lin went so fast, the refs couldn’t see him. Obvious foul though.

  • Alain Gervais

    Guys playing slow

  • Alain Gervais

    Lacking energy. Clearly back to back game showing

  • Michael

    The refs are used to the knicks pace I guess.

  • Alain Gervais

    50/50 call

  • CJSHYY

    What tie w NYK? Hornets will be in trouble to play like this in playoff.

  • heart

    If we could see from our monitor, the ref should see and heard upfront in person. They’re deliberately ignoring/turning the blind eye.

  • Win

    Lin is on his way to another 30+ mins game

  • LinMad

    Cliff should have started Lin, the pace would have been so much quicker.

  • Lefon Jang

    lol they’re still jogging back

  • sws94

    Snails pace, yes. 😉

  • KWC

    They lost last time when they were here too.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Good step forward

  • BobbyH

    I doubt the others can keep up with B2B.

  • LinMad

    worthless when 10 of the minutes he probably touched the ball only 5 times.

  • KWC

    5 times? That many?

  • zxcvb

    I don’t even care about this game. Lin didn’t even touch the ball for first 7m.

    I wanna know what’s happening in Philly! I don’t think they’ll fire Brown right away. No point in that. But his small 2yr “extension” makes him easy to dump once the season is over. A lot of people saw that as “severance pay” to begin with.

    MDA being hired as “special consultant” always felt like a coaching transition.

  • Rick Johnson

    Jefferson is kind of a drag on the team. Should give Hansbrough some minutes.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin needs more gel at the back

  • heart

    Frazier said he’s considered voting for someone on Portland team for MIP.

  • cdblue10

    i agree with his preference

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Good… LOL!

  • Lefon Jang

    C’mon Frank!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin had some words for frank

  • heart

    Lin has a band aid on his right index finger and his right elbow is hurting. He seems slow today.

  • Win

    He is fast. Just the shots aren’t falling for him tonite.

  • cdblue10

    Mccollum really become a very good player as the wing man

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Why did kw leave 4 sec on the clock?

  • Alain Gervais

    None of those shots came with real rhythm. The team just has no momentum. The pace is not there. Only one three was in rhythm and he missed it. The whole team came out dead

  • sws94

    Very fast. He’s trying. His elbow has discomfort.

  • cdblue10

    He doesn’t give a damn abt time management,he just wanna get the last shot every possessions

  • heart

    Lin said something to Kam for leaving the corner 3 open.

  • KP said earlier “Lin was holding his right elbow, the one with bursitis, after being fouled by Vuljacic. Hope he’s not hurt.”

    Perhaps JLin shouldn’t play if the elbow is hurting :[
    But we all know he’s warrior so he’d give it a go

  • sws94

    I agree. But I also think since Batum isn’t playing, Lin will just fight through the 2nd half. Sometimes, he goes on adranaline, and maybe in the 4Q he’ll make some big plays/buckets.

  • LinMad

    Wasn’t it Frank? Lin talked to Frank first then he spoke to KW but not sure if he was angry at anyone.

  • let’s hope so.
    I’m concerned this elbow bursitis will affect his finish and shots

  • Rick Johnson
  • LinMad

    i said something similar a few game ago. That Kemba lacks BBIQ. I always see him taking shots whenever he wants to instead of running the clock down or going for a 2-for-1.

  • CJSHYY

    Lin should not play today…

  • zxcvb

    According to the article, Bryan Colangelo is all but hired as GM. In “advanced negotiations.”

  • MEL LIN

    btw just noticed that jlin didnt start tonight

  • golfhacker

    Here you go!

  • LinMad

    Cliff not starting Lin was a big mistake

  • CJSHYY

    Coach next?

  • heart

    Very good news! One down, BBrown next, please. MDA as Head Coach and Lin to Sixers.

  • Guest

    Lin has the worst stats at half…

  • zxcvb

    Seems so. Smart people said all along that Colangelo joining Sixers meant the end of Hinkie; MDA joining Sixers (as consultant) meant the end of Brown.

  • LinMad

    maybe less

  • zxcvb

    *shrug*

    Badly swollen elbow, frozen out for first 7m. Who cares? If Lin were starting, I’d care. But in this usage, IDGAF.

  • Rick Johnson

    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m1 minute ago
    One source close to the situation in Philadelphia tells http://ESPN.com that Bryan Colangelo’s arrival with the club is “imminent”
    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/717875087060242432

  • Lefon Jang

    his game can’t measured by stats

  • donsmacau

    I just posted an article this morning where Hinkie said he lost 20 pounds this season and I said the writing was on the wall.

    Fantastic news. Now the Sixers entire organization should be on board, both Colangelos, MDA and the wonderful words Brett Brown said about JLIN recently.

  • zxcvb

    That would be the best move. Even if they draft a PG, that PG will not be ready as a rookie. All top prospects are non-PGs. Drafting Simmons and signing Lin would make them from jokes to playoff contenders.

  • sws94

    So far it is. That’s why I think if he just goes on adrenaline later he may finish some and make some shots.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba gotta statpad after another stinker against a top team. Injured Lin playing to do dirty work off the bench.

  • donsmacau

    Agree, Jerry Colangelo and MDA will not allow a rookie or even a young player to start at point guard.

  • cdblue10

    I don’t know what they saw about this player,DJ Agustine would be prolly better if they gave him a freedom like him

  • sws94

    Sometimes that happens. He’s not having a great game, or usual game against the Knicks, but he’s just giving what he has. Man down, Lin not in great shape but he’s playing.

  • zxcvb

    Now I’m 50/50 on Philly vs. Brooklyn. All depends on MDA’s situation.

  • David Kim

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    Sam Hinkie stepped down as the Philadelphia 76ers’ general manager Wednesday, according to ESPN.com’s Marc Stein, but the team reportedly already has a replacement in mind.

    According to The Vertical’s Adrian Wojnarowski, ownership has targeted former Toronto Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo—son of Sixers chairman of basketball operations Jerry Colangelo—and his candidacy “has been gathering momentum.”

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It’s foolish to deny lin and MDA are regularly in touch. We just don’t what they talked about.

  • Win

    Agreed. He attacks the basket and even if he has missed, frank get the easy rebound and score as he drawn all the bigs to defend him.

  • zxcvb

    Maybe Lin really is carefree…because he knows what’s gonna happen? Let’s see this summer.

  • Win

    I actually thinks he played fine so far.

  • golfhacker

    I am at the game. Kinda boring – haha! Anyway here are some pics. I’m in the upper level, so not the best view.

  • #WinWithLin campaign? 😄👍

  • I am The Jason

    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/717875913732411392

    It seems Hinkie is upset. We he so mad lol.

  • zxcvb

    Bad luck! Lin good game last night, Kemba bad game = Statpad Time for Kemba against lowly Knicks.

    Combined with Lin’s swollen elbow…zzzzzzzzzzz. Maybe some 4th quarter magic?

  • zxcvb

    Either that or #BrookLin.

  • golfhacker

    Here are some more pics.

  • donsmacau

    Previously I had Philly at 70% and Brooklyn at 15%

    now modify my chances to 85% Sixers and Brooklyn 10%, darkhorse falls to 5%

  • heart

    Thanks for the pic. Does Lin look ok to you? His right elbow looking swollen? Did you see him got fouled and no call? How’s the crowd?

  • zxcvb

    His mentor Morey may be next. 100% fired if they miss the playoffs. 50/50 if they sneak in and inevitably lose 1st rd.

  • heart

    Thanks Golf.

  • Lefon Jang

    he made that shot!

  • Win

    KW is hot tonite.

  • heart

    Against non-playoff, bottom pole teams.

  • golfhacker

    Welcome. I’m too far to see if his elbow is bothering him. Crowd cheered when Lin made his shot and had no reaction on his misses.

  • Win

    KW cant handle Grant

  • sport

    Oh wait is Hinkie finally gone?!! Stars are aligning!!

  • Pete Roces

    WOW, this off season will be the most exciting one for us, the Lin fans. Hooray!!!

  • zxcvb

    He already stepped down! Bryan Colangelo hiring is “imminent.”

    The only question is whether MDA will take over as coach this summer.

  • sport

    I totally said Jerry should hire his son as GM and now there are rumors! Father and son has same mentality and trust MDA. It couldn’t be better!

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin’s in

  • HVJoy

    Thank you. Now I am going back to the game…

  • sport

    Nope Brown has to go too! Tanking coach doing fake PR talk just to save his job like BS but the Colangelos won’t buy it!

  • Win

    Good D!

  • NONONO

    Melo pushed Lin’s hand away before reached the ball

  • Win

    I think it was a 50/50 ball.

  • Guest

    Lin’s elbow does not help his shooting

  • Win

    Nice!!!

  • NONONO

    Lin did not start this game? Punished by Clifford because out shined Kemba as starter???

  • Lefon Jang

    Hornets up by 9 after Lin came in

  • Win

    Good ball movement. Kemba move the ball well too!

  • Lefon Jang

    what a pass by lin to kemba.

  • Win

    Lin is actually very good at high PnR situation too.

  • CaliUSMC

    this is so boring..can’t wait for the dallas houston game. lets go mavsssss

  • NONONO

    you never seen the other way around.

  • Promo Sports World

    Heck Jeremy ain’t shooting well….but he is contributing….extra passes. Defense is there

    Jimmy ain’t falling

  • Lefon Jang

    and wasted an assist.

  • Win

    If the team play like that and Kemba is willing to move the ball like that and once Batum is back, Hornets might really surprise a lot of people.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin has helped Big Al but seem like Big Al has been detrimental to Lin and BF1 as a whole. Lamb seems to have been doing poorly since Big Al game to BF1.

  • NONONO

    Kemba has always played like that – me me me

  • Win

    He game can’t not only tell by his shot. When he is on the floor, the offensive flow is better.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    right, Kemba is gonna start moving the ball now. ha!

  • Alain Gervais

    That a not true. Lin has no issue with al there.

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin played well as a starter coz he didn’t have to deal with Al as much.

  • Win

    His did the last 3 or 4 possessions. And Lin did a few touch pass to Frank.

  • Rick Johnson

    No issue with Big Al but his slow post up game doesn’t fit Lin’s push the ball, speed and passing.

  • Win

    Yea. Lin is nice. He always try to get big Al involved. A true PG!!!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    hardly

  • Alain Gervais

    Its not ideal but he knows how to score with Al in there and where to get his points

  • NONONO

    he is PG, 3 or 5 possessions is nothing

  • Win

    Lin has played really well tonite even it doesnt show on the stats. You can tell as Clifford already let him played 22 mins.

  • Lefon Jang

    Alfense!

  • Lefon Jang

    Alfense again!

  • Win

    Lin knows how to fit Al

  • Win

    I meant feed

  • NONONO

    Lin makes everyone better, KW for himself

  • NONONO

    I know, i know that is how super star likes Kobe or Harden always does

  • swijaya

    Typo … Selfish star

  • Epie

    OK, I want that T Machine

  • Lefon Jang

    nice rebound by lin

  • Lefon Jang

    Alfense one more time!

  • Lefon Jang

    Another one!

  • great timing

  • Win

    Alllllllll

  • NONONO

    AL knows Lin is better – PG

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes, you do the best with what you have. But orginal BF1 with Zeller, Lamb, Lin was very good. Had the best backup backcourt in the Eastern Conference.

  • Knicks can’t stop Big Al!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Big Al now knows what it’s like to play with a real PG

  • Lefon Jang

    Spencer is sooooo bad!!!!! what a waste of an assist.

  • Win

    Lin is smart. Lolll. If he drove in, melo gonna give him a super hard foul!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin in defense and floor general mode

  • LinMadd

    Lin roughed up Carmelo

  • Rick Johnson

    I was afraid Melo was going to uppercut Lin again before he passed to Hawes.

  • Win

    Yea man! Lin played really really well tonight.

  • NONONO

    LIN is killing Knicks without scoring

  • gasparthe2nd

    I love it how Lin schools ‘the Melo’ on PG maneuvering.

  • Win

    Exactly!!!!

  • Win

    Same here. Lol

  • Good challenge by Lin on Galloway missed 3

  • Lefon Jang

    18 pts lead after Lin came in. Should I say more?

  • NONONO

    Clifford dares to put Kemba back to pad the stats

  • sws94

    Even with Alfense, Hornets are playing Lin ball now.

  • NONONO

    all he is doing is PG and defense

  • NONONO

    did i just say that?????

  • jimmyL

    Come on Lin 7 more

  • Win

    27 mins so far. I said over 30 mins before the game. So let see

  • Win

    Lin!!!

  • NONONO

    NNOOOO REASON to put KEMBA back at all!!!!!

  • Win

    They are leaving the door open for the Knicks.

  • Rick Johnson

    Only 3 assists? Seems like should be more than that.

  • Lefon Jang

    Al should take Lin out to All-You-Can-Eat tonight after all the passes he fed Al.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lopez mad. Fouled Jefferson with his chin.

  • swijaya

    Still more than the assigned ball hog PG

  • NONONO

    Kemba just wants drive through

  • John Focker

    Of course there is, Kemba needs to stat-pad for MIP.

  • Win

    Haha. Good. No come back for the Knicks pls.

  • LinMadd

    Lopez just mad that Al kept doing the same thing and it kept working

  • Win

    Kemba 2 TO in the 4th

  • Epie

    LOL nothing works since Kemba came in

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    gotta mix it up. can’t just go into AL all the time. too predictable

  • I am The Jason

    This was quick. Now I see why Hinkie had a 13 page resignation letter.

    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/717888405166665728

  • jimmyL

    Why cant Lin just not leave his man wide open? He always does that

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    IT’S HAPPENING!

  • cshot

    hornets trying SUPER hard to make kemba thr MIP lol

  • Hornets made 20-9 run after Lin checked in the 3rd quarter with 3:49 left (74-67) and facilitated so well
    Hornets led 94-76 with 6:15 left when Kemba checked in.

    Since Kemba checked in, the Knicks made 17-8 run to make it 102-93

  • Win

    If they lose this game, I am gonna laugh at Clifford.

  • LinMadd

    slow the game down.

  • sws94

    He goes too far in the paint to recover. That’s the one area of his D he has to work on.

  • Epie

    And Kemba

  • John Focker

    Kemba’s most improved in the area of “losing the lead”.

  • Win

    KW made up his defense by his offense tonite.

  • Rick Johnson

    Think the guards have to help the bigs because they don’t have a shot blocker. They need to get a bonafide shot blocker.

  • Win

    Lin!!!!!!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lol 333333

  • sws94

    Dagger. Wow.

  • CaliUSMC

    33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

  • LinMadd

    the daggerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • I am The Jason

    Lin with the dagger.

  • Win

    In your face! Melo!!!

  • Alain Gervais

    Game was over since 8 minutes left. Al was hot and won the game

  • LinMadd

    Lin has some patience. He was so busy defending/playmaking today but took the last shot.

  • BobbyH

    2-9 6 pts is much better than 1-8 3 pts. I am good.

  • Rick Johnson

    Okay, now to root for the Mav’s to eliminate the Rockets.

  • gasparthe2nd

    Hehe…Lin with the ending Three! How cool. Very good game for Lin.

  • CaliUSMC

    Kemba always the mvp against CRAP TEAMS

  • zxcvb

    I just like the 3pt% going up.

  • sws94

    Good combo of Lin and Al. Al made the shots, Lin set up a lot of them and the ball movement by the bench was just really good.

  • LOL … JLin with a deep dagger to provide the EXCLAMATION POINT!!!!!
    WOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • jimmyL

    So frustrating
    he does that with guys who are known to knock down those 3s and guys that are hot
    not very intelligent of him

  • sws94

    It’s OK. He had his fun in NY for his fans there.

  • zxcvb

    Today was meant for Kemba to statpad after Lin outshining him yesterday.

    Lin is playing injured but he continues to beast as a starter while having “Derek Fisher” games as bench guy (low stats, big intangibles). Whatever…he’s proven himself as starter. Again.

    Now he just needs to watch the situation in Philly!

  • noob

    Lin with the meaningless 3 on the Knicks to end the game….. “Payback” according to Clyde

  • Did you see the crossover move that Lin made before pulling up for a DEEEEEP 3333?
    Very nice 😀

  • kassiek

    sweet

  • jimmyL

    He does that every where he plays
    I doubt its the coach at this point

  • David Ly

    Love how Lin shot the 3 with the uncalled for end-of-game pressure from Sasha.

  • BobbyH

    Now on to Mav vs Rox. Let’s go, sprank the Rox.

  • sws94

    Something to clean up. He’s done this for a long time, has become a bad habit.

  • LinMadd

    Lin is always clutch at the end when there is a lot of pressure. I don’t think Lin wanted to shoot that but Lee kept passing it back to him.

  • CaliUSMC

    Yes, intense game for both. Lets gOOo MAVSS

  • Win

    Yea. I want the Mavs to beat the Rox too. Even I don’t really like Mavs neither.

  • jimmyL

    It wasn’t a good game for Lin tonight lol
    Last night proved he can still be a starter
    not so much tonight

  • zxcvb

    He didn’t start tonight, lol.

  • sws94

    Yes. That’s what I loved about that shot.

  • BobbyH

    If he started tonight, it would be a different story.

  • LinMadd

    The two 3s that Lin made were both over Carmelos head?

  • jimmyL

    I wonder if coaches tell him to adjust

  • Win

    It was a good game for Lin. He was one of the main reason that Hornets up by 18 pts at one point.

  • Rick Johnson

    Hopefully at end of season MDA announced as new head coach of the 76ers.

  • JLin might only shot 2-9 with 6 points but he had 40% 3FG (2-5)
    hehe…

    Great facilitating even when he had trouble shooting.
    That’s a real PG there!

  • Win

    Couldn’t agreed more!

  • Phillycheese

    When did Hornets make their run? That’s right, at the start of the quarter 4 with Lin at PG and Jefferson doing all the damage. Game was effectively over at that point.

  • That’s a great move! Reminds me of the move he pulled on LeBron although the shot missed

  • HVJoy

    He was not a starter tonight…Bad shooting game, but he was impactful with 3 assists and 5 rebounds.

  • Looking forward to reading the possibility of Colangelo/MDA connection soon!

  • LinMadd

    Lin and Al working together was amazing. Main reason Lopez got 2 techs too.

  • zxcvb

    It would make Linsanity look like nothing. 82 games with Lin’s game so much stronger overall.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin has pretty high BB IQ. I doubt he does it because it’s a dumb thing to do. Must be playing the odds and in the long run it’s what is best for the team. It’s not like something difficult to change if it is the right thing to do.

  • Win

    True but we are talking about Kemba. So it nice to see. If he plays ISO ball then Hornets won’t have a chance in playoff.

  • jimmyL

    “he’s proven himself as starter. Again.” i was referring to this
    bad shooting night

  • jimmyL

    All credit will probably go to Al Jeff He needs to score more

  • HVJoy

    3 Assists and 5 Rebounds! Still impactful despite bad shooting (due to elbow injury?)

  • jimmyL

    But nobody will talk about him because he didnt shoot well and nothing much stats-wise
    people will talk about how big Al Jeff was in the 4th

  • jimmyL

    “he’s proven himself as starter. Again.”

  • HVJoy

    1 more in the W column!

  • Phillycheese

    Excellent ball movement from the second unit with Lin, Hawes especially finding Jefferson. That one play where Lin made the entry pass to Hawes under the basket, who wrapped abounce pass to Jefferson for the uncontested slam. Ball movement baby.

  • jimmyL

    Lin puts pressure when his team is down

  • yesss, I think the swollen elbow did impact him at some level

  • HVJoy

    But, since he played with an injured elbow, you sounded like a “tiger fan”. lol.

  • Phillycheese

    All those plays where Al gets the ball, takes a dribble, fake, fake and scores do no count as assists stat to the passer.

  • james brown

    as joyce always say: and the plot has thickened!!! they are now starting the changes..hope others now can see it, NDA as coach after? lets wait!

  • Rick Johnson
  • jimmyL

    Just being fair
    When kemba and batum had bad shooting nights they didnt catch a break here
    He has good form and he made 2 beautiful 3’s tonight we know he can be a very good shooter

  • james brown

    although his getting his stats?

  • jimmyL

    By the way, Sasha is Kobe’s best friend

  • Phillycheese

    There were some many instances where the perimeter guys made an extra short pass to each other to give the best angle to get a pass in down low to Jefferson, or a pass in, quick pass out and then reestablish position for another pass in. Some great in-out play there in the 4Q.

  • james brown

    not forcing it?

  • Gotta give credit to Clifford for recognizing JLin’s great facilitation to play him the last 15+ min

    Hornets made 20-9 run after Lin checked in the 3rd quarter with 3:49 left (74-67) and facilitated so well
    Hornets led 94-76 with 6:15 left when Kemba checked in.
    Then the Knicks and Hornets traded points 19-17 to make it 111-97

  • HVJoy

    maybe meaningless as the game was won by Hornets already… but satisfying to his adoring NY fans with his good shot!

  • Hope

    So , Sam Hinkie is out. Jlin&mda reunite in 76ers.

  • GoJLin!

    Yes, too bad it did not showed up at his stats, even Clifford cannot avoid to see his impact to win the game, NO LIN, NO WIN! Poor JLIN with all kind of injury, CHA still needs his presence to give the pressure to the opponent. Best wishes and speedy recovery to JLIN!

  • Win

    IMO, it was only because Clifford like to ride with the hot group. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • james brown

    cliff needs to win, that’s why!

  • james brown

    lets wait for sixers to name MDA as HC!

  • Win

    Agreed I surely do hope what psalm234 is true though. I wouldn’t mind see more JLin PG time in the playoff.

    🙂

  • Rick Johnson

    I would think they would wait until end of season ( next week) but before the NBA draft.

  • jimmyL

    He was gonna play Lin regardless

  • james brown

    if kw was able to hold his own during the game, i know cliff will keep jlin on the bench, but nyk are making their run and needed to stop the bleeding somehow!

  • heart

    Not necessarily true. Cliff wants spacing and defense so KW can shoot to his delight to pad stats for his MIP campaign.

  • james brown

    that surely will be the date..let’s hope that those hugs and talk with jlin and mda was the beginning of their next move!

  • HVJoy

    Part of being a fan is the passion and the support for Lin without reservation.

    I don’t understand the need to be “fair” to other players in a “Lin” fan site by criticizing Lin, the object of our passion and support when it is clear that he played with known injury.

  • I am The Jason

    If Lin was quicker with his release from that crossover, he would be lethal.

  • HVJoy

    Wow!

  • Brewkowski

    Seem like so long ago

  • So Kemba Walker finishes tonight with a career-high for threes in a game (7-10)

    He’s a good scorer .. if he keeps working hard, he might be able to get closer to JLin’s career-high of 9 threes in a game 🙂

  • james brown

    i think cliff knew now that JLIN will sign with MDA as the coach of sixers that’s why he can now freely give his praises not to close bridges with jeremy!

    cliffs hoping jeremy keep playing well for the playoff even though he will not be a part of team future for it will benefit both hornets and jlin, that’s why his open praises for him.

  • Rick Johnson
  • HVJoy

    Pray that you are correct!

  • james brown

    i noticed that too, not that fast as curry’s release right now..need for him to make it a bit faster than this usual if that is his target.

  • leeda harun

    too early to say…i just say lets wait

  • leeda harun

    He is the prince of new york…he he

  • Rick Johnson
  • Win-Win! Yessss!

  • cdblue10

    Lin wanna be there no doubt

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Smart girl. She will graduate from Harvard 1 day.

  • you mean forcing it by playing?

    perhaps yes

  • BobbyH

    That’s is a first. Smart girl.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Jeremy’s stats does not show he’s the best PG today despite showing KW had his good shooting.

  • Vincent

    Didnt watch the game… Did lin get frozen out

  • james brown

    well FA is there and variables are singing to the tune of MDA AND COANGELO with sixers, jlin had showcased his wares even with limited PT,USAGE,BENCHED, so jeremy has options now unlike last summer.

  • yes, CLiff wants to desperately win in the playoff
    So this is good!

  • zxcvb

    BC already hired. Second domino falls…
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/717878772867866624

  • james brown

    you heard brett praising how good jlin is? kissing with coangelo for him to stay as coach? just like BS:”i like JLIN, i really do” statement!

  • Rick Johnson
  • LAJane

    😀

  • Steppen03

    Let’s Go, JJ Barea! =)

  • cdblue10

    I saw that,but I think that won’t happen I see Brown as a good coach,Hinkie was just a bad GM trying to repay other people for his indebtness

  • james brown

    he will, for the ball is always in his hands!

  • As we expected from Lin, he doesn’t blame any injury

    @manu77728
    Jeremy Lin said elbow’s ok. He just had an off night.
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/717899149744738304

  • cdblue10

    You need to drain that Lin,you don’t want that to get infected.

  • zxcvb

    Yes. For the first 7m he had zero touches in the halfcourt.

    After that he got the ball for his next ~10m and was just cold — swollen elbow didn’t help!

  • This is good.
    76ers wants to give players a sense of stability to fans and players for next season

    Credibility comes with Jerry & Bryan Colangelo at the helm

  • james brown

    but look how brett coached, he’s not that polished either and can’t make his player think winning..beside, whats the use of MDA there, :D?..only brown can hope now is to be an associate or assistant to MDA

  • zxcvb

    Sends a good message: tanking is over. The rebuild officially begins.

    If only Kemba would stop freezing Lin out. Might be able to get past the first rd of the playoffs — that would good showcase for everyone. But I expect Kemba’s ego will hold them back.

  • cdblue10

    True…for sure there’s a lot of shaking up that would happen in the next few days for that organization,they have to prepare now for the next season to bring back their fan base,getting Lin to their team will patch some of their losses from the last few seasons.

  • james brown

    reporters – LOOK AT THE WRAPPED ELBOW!

  • james brown

    he’s learning but he’s slow, he will soon find out after jlin already left the court and batum’s a gonner too..hopw MW goes to sixers also

  • donsmacau

    Jerry Colangelo played this brilliantly; after yesterdays 10 win preventing a season record in Losses – JC decided to break the news to Sam Hinkie that he was bringing his son in as GM but Sam could remain as President of Basketball Operations.

    Of course Sam knew that he essentially was shut out completely and resigned.

    Remains to be seen whether Brett Brown lasts another 12 months (my previous prediction) or does not even make it through the Summer in favor of new Head Coach Mike D’Antoni

    JLIN joins Sixers in free agency as starting point guard.

  • K

    Where is mama Lin,? We need her.

  • cdblue10

    Yup,she needs to take Lin to his doctor drain it and tell him to rest for 1 week to prepare for the playoff

  • Yes, 76ers will be the new Phoenix Suns Run-N-Gun of the East!

    A real possibility indeed 👍😄😎🎉

  • HVJoy

    “he doesn’t blame any injury.” What a consummate professional he is!

  • james brown
  • cdblue10

    That’s a scary thought…Okafor and Noel will be stronger next year and that Jeremy Grant I can’t wait for him to improved his game,another jeremy to jeremy

  • cdblue10

    We are seeing the obvious scenario to unfold

  • james brown

    and ish will be a good back up pg for jlin unless he want to test his game again with other team.

  • cdblue10

    Yep Ish will be a good back up

  • donsmacau

    Coach Brett Brown called JLIN “lightning in a bottle”

    It’s hard to see Brown wanting to stay since Sam Hinkie was the man who hired him and extended his contract but if he really likes JLIN and the Colangelos are willing to be more patient since he did get a contract extension – who knows whether Brown starts next season with Sixers

    But longterm the coach will be Mike D’Antoni under the Colangelos

  • donsmacau

    Ish is fine – I like his story and perseverance in the league; but I truly believe the backup to JLIN will be some young player to learn the ropes from JLIN and be JLIN’s understudy

  • james brown
  • Rick Johnson

    Is that woman reporter Dennis Ginobili?

    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/717904161594064897

  • HVJoy

    NY media knows whom NY basketball fans love.

  • Rick Johnson
  • james brown

    if ish stayed with sixers, it will be good because they will not force jeremy that much, but if he decide to go, there are other good back up pg out there, be it a young player or a veteran.

  • heart

    Just speculating but didn’t he Hinkie extended BBrown contract just before Coangelo came onboard. to prevent new coaching hire. Yet, Coangelo still brought MDA on board w/ him anyway…. Do you remember?

  • james brown

    lol!..and that’s exactly what i am thinking ..reporters can’t wait for jeremy to be dressed before asking/interviewing him….guess jlin want to rest immediately after that!

  • donsmacau

    True there is competition but JLIN should not be afraid of competition because of the faith of Mike D’Antoni who knows JLIN’s game, his basketball IQ, court vision, unselfishness, passing proficiency, improved defense, P&R excellency, shot creation ability, leadership in making scrubs play like a team.

  • james brown

    yes, the new team can’t do anything now about that, but they can still fire brown or demote him to lesser position with same pay if he obliged

  • donsmacau

    Yes, that is exactly what happened but many coaches have gotten fired after recently receiving contract extensions.

  • james brown

    remember BS statement:” i like jeremy lin…i really do”!?

  • leeda harun

    I remembered that.

  • james brown

    ish is no better than jlin, but can compliment him during his rest..besides, ish can learn a bit or two fron jeremy!

  • donsmacau

    Yes very true, Ish can be a bit undisciplined and can definitely learn from JLIN if they keep Ish as backup.

    Ishmael Smith is very religious and would fit well with JLIN in that sense.

  • james brown

    this is a good day indeed!!!

    waiting mode again!

  • Rick Johnson

    Severence pay for putting up with the tanking.

  • heart

    Hinkie probably tried to exercise whatever little power he had left while he can. He may have given BBrown some favorable renewal term clauses, so he cannot be fired under certain conditions. God forbid if that’s the case. Sixers are stuck w/him or have to give him separation pay for him to leave. IF Hinkie did that to Sixers and Coangelo, then BBrown should leave on his own volition knowing that Coangelo has someone else waiting in the wing. Unless Coangelo wants him to stay…Just speculating…

  • donsmacau

    At this point I think it’s 50/50 whether Brown makes it through the summer, his new boss will be Bryan Colangelo who in turn works for his father Jerry – if they want to buy him out of his contract, they will.

  • heart

    Raptors Commentator said K. Lowry had his elbow drained prior to the last game.

  • cdblue10

    That’s painful!!!The only thing that I’m scared of is when that inflammation will get infected,he needs to take care of it ASAP

  • Arsenium12 .

    Link to letter from Sam Hinkie to 76er equity partners : http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf

  • @NBA_Skits
    Jeremy Lin doing the Knicks dirty. 🔥#Linsanity
    https://twitter.com/NBA_Skits/status/717919847640928256

  • grover chang

    Let’s go MAVS!!!

  • heart
  • donsmacau

    Jerry Colangelo has announced that the Sixers in turn are releasing a letter about Sam Hinkie’s resignation.

    Probably to rebut some of Hinkie’s points in his own letter.

    Could be starting to get nasty.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK fans really like Lin…. too bad he will not go back to NYK.

  • Thanks, @Arsenium12 .:disqus!

    This is absolutely a fascinating read into the mind behind Hinkie’s investment philosophy for the 76ers!
    He had great assets as seeds but is unable to make them bloom to make the investors start imagining the harvests

  • heart

    Started laughing from reading the tweet replies… lol! Bottom line, Hinkie is out!

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    I think NYK fans really miss Linsanity a lot. Where was Dolan tonight? Did they cheer for Melo?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    mmmh. Anyone is reading this? Please do a summary if you do:-)

  • TTNN

    13 pages, LOL.

    Was listen into Lowe’s podcast with Hinkie, not sure at that time Lowe know he is going to resign or not. But that was the worst GM podcast I have ever listened into. Really hard to follow Hinkie’s thought, and he is really bad communicator, you could listen for 10 min and could not figure out what he is trying to say. So no surprise for the 13 pages long letter. Not sure whether that covers all his thought or not, maybe he already shrink it.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Common Mavs you can keep the lead and win the game.

  • donsmacau

    Read Zach Lowe’s interveiw thsi morning and Hinkie said he lost 20 lbs this season due to stress.

    I knew then that something had to happen.

  • TTNN

    I honest thought that 76ers saw the fail of HOU and start to further confirmed Hinkie is not the solution. Hinkie got hired with that Harden’s trade as half of his resume.

  • Win

    Rockets Choke. No worries

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Please beat Rox.

  • Win

    Smart Foul by Raymond Felton.

  • Win

    Yes!!!! Mavs beat Rockets!!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! So happy!!!

  • BobbyH

    Epic Harden TO in last posseion.

  • cdblue10

    Cuban really hates Houston just watching his reaction after the buzzer

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Rox is #9 now?

  • grover chang

    2 game lead. Four games to go. Very exciting.

  • sws94

    I don’t think they do more than Lin is a PG that can do great on their team and they need one. They’ve adapted Porzingis as the next star of the Knicks and like his game.

  • Rick Johnson

    See, ploy to piss off Melo and get him to waive his no trade clause so they could dump him.

    https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/717906376664735745

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    They have been there for a while:-) Hopefully they will stay there for the rest of the season:-)

  • Rick Johnson

    They’ve been #9, buries them there deeper now.

  • CJSHYY

    Can they waive his no trade clause? I hope he can join his good friend LBJ this summer.

  • sws94

    How many more games do they have left? If they don’t make the playoffs that would be true choke, not clutch.

  • TTNN

    Well, 76ers tanked couple of season but they don’t get any convincing rookie or young players. Compare to Jazz, Bucks, they are all young team, they all had more promising young players and they are not tanking. So for these years, 76ers tanking end up with nothing, other than their owner lost a lot of money. So many teams are rebuilding after 76ers and they are now more advance in their rebuilding process.

    Look at Trail blazers, they lost 4 of their starters, 3 potential max players in LA, Batum and Matthews, and they are still a playoff team with young players.

  • gasparthe2nd

    oh my…. the rockettes lost again to Dallas… good game JJ

  • CJSHYY

    But next game it’s vs Sun? If they win can they move up?

  • BobbyH

    UTA needs to hold on. 1 game lead only.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the first paragraphs is already confusing as heck. what in the world is this garbage anyway?…

    I hope this letter finds you well. I have been serving the Sixers at your pleasure for the past 34 months. Atul Gawande, a Surgeon at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, remains (from afar) one of my favorite reads. He laughs that reading scientific studies has long been a guilty pleasure. Reading investor letters has long been one of mine.

  • CJSHYY

    Good. I hope they will not make it to playoff this season. LOL!

  • Win

    Yea. But Rox is plaing Suns, Lakers, Twolve and Kings. All is easy game except maybe Twolve.

  • TTNN

    they are flying back so they will need to leave on time.

  • grover chang

    I know. Sucks. Next four games between Dallas, Utah, and Houston, rockets have the easiest schedule. No playoff teams.

  • sws94

    Watching Minnesota, KAT and WIggins are two legitimate superstars for years to come. They aren’t there now but are close. Okafor is hurt and a very good player, but Towns has really emerged. They may be very good soon.

    Noel is good but he’s not that second potential player to build the team around. They have a lot of work to do.

  • BobbyH

    It all depends on Mav and Jazz. Mav 2 games lead. Jazz 1 game. But Jazz has easier schedule. Mav has 4 games against playoff teams.

  • Rick Johnson

    Melo needs to chose to waive his no trade clause.

  • blubell
  • grover chang

    You make Lin starting point guard. Melo will ask to leave.

  • BobbyH

    You never know. They might give Rox trouble. But if Mav and Jazz hang on.

  • Win

    I am hoping pop will rest all his starter on the last game vs Mavs

  • donsmacau

    Not necessarily nothing.

    Okafor
    Nerlens Noel
    Joel Embiid
    Dario Saric
    Robert Covington
    Possibly Simmons or Ingraham in draft this year

    and Jeremy Lin leading the squad

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! Please just let Harden & Rox stay out of playoff this season.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope King can beat them too.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW so quick! We are on Thu afternoon:-)

  • heart

    IMO, Hou used Lin’s popularity during Linsanity era at the time to lure Harden and to bring ‘buzz’ to their team.

  • HVJoy

    Yes, we do miss Linsanity. Also, it’s easier to watch his games. All Knicks games are broadcast HD on the MSG channel and the fans don’t need to purchase NBA league pass for games.

  • CJSHYY

    No hope. From the talk he wants to pick next coach can tell… NO trade for him. He will stay w NYK. smh!

  • donsmacau

    What do you think about this son? Looks OK dad. Let me finish my cereal now.

    How hard is it really?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Houston is 38-40 and Utah 39-39. Utah has a tougher game schedule than Houston. Well, it will be very interesting to find out.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Know nothing about him except what fans talk about him and dad here. Anyway it will be an interesting development:-)

  • james brown

    correct me if i am wrong but i re4ad only in part for it was so hard to digest some it because of broad subject it aims…i think hinkies letter boast of justification rather than apology. it is so sour you could taste the bitterness of it..(LOL)

    this letter did just show how incompetent their thinking was and at the same time being proud of it. building can be slow, but it doesn’t mean its strong, you can make a fast building for as long as the standards are met and address. H e was stubborn and same as when he resigned.only morey will accept this kind of thinking in a modern nba league!

  • donsmacau

    The point I was making was the father is hiring the son so I could imagine the negotiations might be quite smooth.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Of course, no doubt:-) Just wonder what comes next:-)

  • james brown

    give JLIN someone to work on and he will share the good news!, be their leader and he will lead by example!

    sometimes, it takes only one drop to make a bottle full!

  • CJSHYY

    I hope Harden continues to have his clutch TO & loss the game… Don’t want Rox to make it to playoff this year.

  • Bryan Colangelo was instrumental to construct the core players of Toronto Raptors (DeRozan, Lowry, Dwight Casey as coach)
    Jerry Colangelo knew what he’s doing in the Phoenix Suns and rebuilding USA Olympics team to win the gold medal after the 1st loss.

    They certainly have the credibility to construct championship-caliber teams.

    Let’s hope both will use their MDA connection to make him a head coach 🙂

    https://twitter.com/suredowish/status/690343716717006853

  • oh .. you miss a comma there for the imaginary convo 🙂
    Yes, smoooooth negotiation over lunch

  • donsmacau

    The team that Bryan built is now the 2nd seed in EAST could still get Top seed.

  • heart

    Yep. To me, lots of rambling. I think he wrote these in parts over the course of time and compile them together probably right after Coangelo came on board. It’s basically a chronicle compilation of his dealings/accomplishments as 76rs GM during his tenure.

  • Man, I’m excited to see what the next move for Brett Brown and MDA 🙂
    Perhaps after the regular season ends?

  • james brown

    i think the master plan was already printed and its execution time now..

  • Rick Johnson

    But if Jackson already chose Rambis without consulting Melo it will piss him off and Melo may want to leave and waive his no trade clause. Then after Melo gone put in a good coach.

  • CJSHYY

    Somehow I think Melo still will win. See Fisher’s out that means Dolan was not happy about PJ… So maybe it’s PJ will out of NYK not Melo.

  • CJSHYY

    But they want backup PG from Alt- Dennis Schroder? Or this just old GM’s idea?

  • james brown

    i think hinkie tried it but coangelo disapproved it, that leads to hnkie making his dissertation of 13 pages!

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Coangelo disapproved to get Schroder? What do you think the other day 76 coach talked about Lin? Sounds like they are interested in him?

  • Arsenium12 .

    Thanks, Psalm.

    I read the letter rather quickly. My take is that Hinkie’s obviously a very bright and well-read fellow. But I think he’d be better off functioning as an internal consultant / “team resource” rather than as a senior manager. I’m glad all this housecleaning will have taken place before Lin goes there (if that’s where he winds up).

  • It’s a good thing that Kobe will retire soon to preserve what’s left of his legacy

    @SBNationNBA
    A Kobe ISO used to be one of the most exciting plays you could watch. Now? https://twitter.com/SBNationNBA/status/717928852102709248

  • james brown

    lol

  • John Focker

    Ideally, Jazz 7th Mavs 8th and Rox eliminated. Jazz’ got a tough schedule though.

  • C Chan

    Here’re some pics I took in tonight’s game. JLin was fouled hard in his elbow in the 1st quarter, guess that’s the reason why he has a bad shooting night. Anyway tonight was a KW show to make up for his bad game yesterday, JLin, Lee & Zeller are big supporting cast. I was sitting right next to the MSG sideline reporter. That lady doesn’t know much about Hornets. While she was preparing for her report, someone came to her with a memo of the name of Hornets’ big 3, Kemba, Marvin & Big Al. A guy next to her telling her to like promote Kemba saying he was off yesterday but tonight he was great, scoring 13 in 1st quarter & hit a big last shot before half time. Maybe that’s why Lin only took one shot in the 3rd & one at the end of the game. There were couple Knicks fans sitting behind me, teasing & harassing Lamb & Hansboro all night. The bench lead by Marvin always stand up to cheer for their teammates, blocking our view, so those guys behind me kept yelling & asked them to sit down. Out of my surprise, Marvin turned towards them & he said sorry then he sat. After he sat down, he turned his head again & waved to those guys, so classy. The Lin fans at my section clapped for him. I have a lot of respect for him. I think that’s the most fun part of tonight’s game.

  • andrew

    so jeremy is most likely to go to siders next season?

  • andrew

    sixers*

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    last time I quick a job I didn’t remember do it on paper.

  • CJSHYY

    I like MW too. Thanks for the report.

  • JoeTeam

    Thanks for the story! Great Marvin is a good man.

  • sws94

    only the shadow knows. Sixers are making moves and some posters are very excited of the possibility.

  • james brown

    lol

  • blubell
  • If MDA becomes the Head Coach to replace Brett Brown, there is a high probability that he will try to recruit JLin.

    He was quoted as late as Jan 2016 by 1 Suns staff during Q&A in Phoenix that he would love to coach JLin again.
    And they’ve been known to text each other so it’s a very good sign if they want to reunite.

  • Linzen

    Really hope that they can reunite JLin and MDA. Hack, maybe they can also bring in Nash as an assistant coach. That would be my dream come true! lol

  • sws94

    Marv is classy. I like him.

  • CJSHYY

    Really? “He was quoted as late as Jan 2016 by 1 Suns staff during Q&A in Phoenix that he would love to coach JLin again.” Wow!

  • james brown

    there’s no assurance yet for it will be definite when jlin say so..right now we are having fun for the development!nice to have news like this!

  • zxcvb

    Not all warriors are in Golden State.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Good one.

  • zxcvb

    If/when that happens, the hype train can really get started. Otherwise, Brooklyn is definitely the best bet.

  • TTNN

    I thought it was PJ get rid of Fisher, not Dolan.

  • yes, right before the Suns Q&A started, the Suns staff mentioned to JLin he had a chance to talk to Mike D’Antoni a few days prior that he would love to coach him again.
    JLin just politely said, “Thank you” (and complimented MDA as a great coach) and they just moved on with the Q&A

  • james brown

    lots of option for jeremy comes FA for sure!

  • zxcvb

    There was also an article during the season from the NY Post (?) saying that MDA was still trying to reunite with Lin. And before the season, ESPN Magazine ran an article full of gushing MDA quotes on Lin — clearly still in contact.

  • zxcvb

    2 back-to-backs for HOU however. It’ll be close!

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! That’s really good news.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so… if he can take this team to deep in playoff that will be even better…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Utah, please do your best and win the games:-)
    https://twitter.com/TheHoChen/status/717928212370690049

  • Yes, the well-publicized one was the one after JLin was signed by the Lakers when MDA was quoted as saying, “Gosh, I can’t believe we just missed each other”

  • CJSHYY

    Looks like Rox has more easy schedule. smh!

  • zxcvb

    The one I’m talking about is the article when he played the Nets or Knicks this season. The main “scoop” was that Lin had considered a return to the Knicks during the summer but they weren’t interested. And then it said MDA still wanted to reunite with him.

  • zxcvb

    2 games are back-to-backs though.

  • gandychan

    But rox keep their draft pick if they miss the playoffs.

  • CJSHYY

    But the teams are more easy to beat… hope Harden will not loss his clutch TO magic… LOL!

  • AlexBB

    I have never came across such resignation letter. He is either nasacistic and/or mentally in-balance:). also took the joy and fun of sport completely out with his thinking and approach.

  • Yascar

    I read the whole Hinkie statement. If you are a true NBA fan, it’s interesting but mostly it sounds like a man trying to justify his actions during his tenure at GM that have thus far produced no results to be proud of.

    Case in point – he talks at length about how young their players are and how they just need time to develop. Well heck, it doesn’t take a genius to know that young uber athletes need guidance and some maturity around them to fulfill their potential. It’s a flaw in his grand plan which he doesn’t acknowledge enough. He’s definitely Morey’s protege – a lot of talk, a lot of deal making, accumulating assets but with no real sense on how to build a winning team.

    Makes me wonder how many more NBA GMs operate with this cold hearted business model. Good luck to the Sixers.

  • John Focker

    They’ll pick a PG and then ruin him with Harden.

  • sport

    Brown knows he’s out the door, trying to say the right things just like BS to keep his job but it won’t work and I totally don’t by it.

  • sport

    He hates Morey after pulling Dwight from him therefore hates Rockets.

  • John Focker

    For as good as the Raptors are, Jeremy destroys them if and when given the reins of starting PG. Bryan can build a new team with Lin to beat his old team -> Most Improved GM.

  • John Focker

    To be fair, Jeremy did start NBA with GSW.

    Once a Warrior, always a warrior? 🙂

  • sport

    JLin will lead the team so long as the coach and higher ups are on the same page; in the Sixers case if Brown is fired or forced to quit next, MDA will be hired.

  • TTNN

    He also cold, cruel and calculated like Morey too. He is reported to some times cut players without notify their agent first, give super low contracts like 4 years with team option, when Okafor having off court issue, he would not face reporters……

  • TTNN

    oh, there is a game between UTAH and Mavs, that’s no good.

  • John Focker

    Glad the a**h*** stepped down in disgrace, he definitely “earned” it.

  • zxcvb

    His approach would have been justified with just one change — NOT tanking this season.

    If he had simply signed a PG like Lin and traded one asset (Noel/Okafor/1st rd pick) for a quality wing, everything would be fine and dandy. They’d be playing exciting games, developing a winning culture and still have major assets for the future (3-4 first rounders this year and Embiid).

    But Hinkie got greedy and showed his lack of understanding about basketball and people. It’s one thing to go 30-52. It’s another to go 10-72 with horribly unwatchable garbage play. It stunts player development, creates frustration from players and agents, destroys attendance/ratings, and makes the NBA office and owners revolt (hurting their revenue).

    That one move — tanking for a THIRD year — was his downfall. Trade mid-level players for assets? Great. Tank for one year? Good. Two years? Bold, but okay. Three years? Get the heck outta here.

  • I agree, it’s definitely a justification of what Hinkie has done correctly (in his mind) to accumulate assets as an investment manager. Straight from the Daryl Morey book of “It’s about Math” without consideration of the people aspect to build chemistry.

    But I believe he benefited from working briefly with Colangelo to learn the people aspect of the GM responsibility.
    He might get another chance somewhere in the future when 76ers reaps the rewards in the next few years.

    Here’s some interesting excerpts:

    ..
    Draft picks
    While the young players on our team and rights-held players internationally continue to show promise, our ability to add to that group by layering in additional high quality talent via the draft, free agency, and trade is at an all-time high.
    ..
    If you were to estimate the value of those firsts and the ones to follow, from this point forward we have essentially two NBA teams’ worth of first round pick value plus the third most second round picks in the league.

    Salary Cap postion
    ..
    Other

    A sincere thank you

    Thank you for the opportunity you all gave me to lead this storied franchise. My gratification is
    beyond my power to express. What is unequivocal is that the principal beneficiary of your largesse has been
    me. Thank you.

    Philadelphia has been wonderful to our family. Two of our children were born here. Lincoln said
    that to meet with the public “renewed in me my perceptions of responsibility and duty.” Those words rang
    hollow until we moved here and I talked with our fans. Everywhere I went, lifelong Sixers fans told me
    stories about how they wanted the team to be good again—really good.

    It’s clear now that I won’t see the harvest of the seeds we planted. That’s OK. Life’s like that. Many
    of my NBA friends cautioned me against the kind of seed sowing that felt appropriate given the
    circumstances for exactly this reason. But this particular situation made it all the more necessary, though.

    Part of the reason to reject fear and plow on was exactly because fear had been the dominant motivator of
    the actions of too many for too long.

    I will be repotted professionally. That is often uncomfortable; most growth is. But it’s also often
    healthier over the longer sweep of history, too.

    Link:http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jun Liu highlights ….
    __________

  • sport

    don’t like that term, “lighting in a a bottle” sounds like he only sees Lin as off the bench. Dude is being too obvious trying to keep his job and the Colangelos aren’t stupid.

  • Let’s hope the Colangelos are drafting the path of Linsane Shock-the-NBA for 2017-20 season with MDA over dinner somewhere in Philly!

  • yes, I remember that one. It’s the most recent one being published by NYPost, I think.

  • sport

    Nope tanking is just an excuse just look at BS, Brown is a bad coach and goner.

  • sport

    This thread will be go crazy if Brett is finally gone and MDA is hired as head coach. 😀

  • yes, you described it very accurately.
    He seemed having problems grasping the people aspect of being a GM

  • wandertheglobe

    I’m wondering too because Dennis G. seems to have lots of inside stuff on Lin, including stuff about his brother, Joe in Taiwan.

  • sport

    Kemba is a worst shooter than Harden, those career highs are meaningless playing 40 minutes and chucking as many shots as he wants.

  • CJSHYY

    CP said he will not mind back to Rox….帕森斯,這次認真考慮要重返火箭效力了嗎?帕森斯今天接受《休士頓紀事報》訪問,強調自己並不排除回到老東家打球,「我在火箭待了3季,在那邊擁有不少美好時光,我樂見比克斯塔夫接下總教練職位,我不會排除重回火箭的。

  • TTNN
  • Thanks for sharing your game experience. You really had good seats!

    No wonder Marvin Williams gets along so well with JLin. They’re both so humble!
    Interesting that the MSG sideline reporter got the narrative on what to say regarding Kemba.
    I wonder where the memo came from.

  • John Focker

    My eyes…my eyes! Look what you’ve done!

    Now excuse me while I rinse my eyes with aqua regia to wipe off that horrendous image.

  • blubell
  • John Focker

    Respectfully making one suggestion: 2017-22, matching D’Antoni’s contract!

  • bolero

    Take that Knicks, payback – Clyde Frasier after Lin hits a 3.

  • jolno

    I really want the Rockets to miss the playoffs altogether but it might not be that bad if they made it as the 8th seed. Actually, part of the Ty Lawson trade is for the Rockets to send a protected 2016 first round pick to the Nuggets.

    Obviously Lawson has worked out so well for the Rockets that they have to end up waiving him and ate his salary LOL. Now that first round pick is top-14 protected so if the Rockets made the playoffs they will lose that pick to Denver which will make the trade even worse!

    It also doesn’t hurt that they will likely face the Warriors in the first round. Bring out the BROOM because the sweep is coming.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Jeremy Lin Hits Vicious Crossover and Buries Late 3 Against New York Knicks.

    Up by 11 over the New York Knicks, less than 10 seconds to go and the ball in his hands.

    Jeremy Lin could have passed or dribbled it out, but facing his former team Wednesday, he opted for a different approach—a dagger.

    Driving toward the defending Sasha Vujacic, Lin suddenly pulled up, sending the unsuspecting opponent careening away with a well-executed crossover. Then he rose up, unloaded…

    …and buried the three from the top of the key, staring down the Slovenian guard from behind the arc (and on the flip side of the playoff picture).

    More Linsane: No. 7’s emergence for the Charlotte Hornets or that the Knicks let him go?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2630947-jeremy-lin-hits-vicious-crossover-and-buries-late-three-against-new-york-knicks

    Favorite Play of the Game!
    https://vine.co/v/iIwrrtMFtAV

  • Spot

    Wow! So Hinkie steps down as Sixers’ GM? Maybe it’s the right time, folks… Keep praying.

    Colangelo jr should go to Philadelphia now and probably Hinkie comes back to Houston.

    Hopefully Jeremy and MDA will reunite together.

  • I was wondering when you will show up to share your joy 🙂
    Yes, keep hoping and praying for the next domino to fall on the coaching status

    All eyes are on Brett Brown and MDA now…

    @netw3rk
    [Brett Brown opens medicine cabinet and takes out tooth brush]
    [closes cabinet]
    [sees Mike D’antoni behind him in the reflection]
    https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/717929148908445696

  • Spot

    LOL!!

    I keep reading but I don’t have much time to post these days.

    Brown could stay as assistant or trying to go somewhere else. He could follow Hinkie for example.

    What’s important is we could see the light at the end of the tunnel.

  • DaBoss

    Listen to that crowd – oh how much they missed out on thanks to Dolan and Melo!

  • DaBoss

    Thanks for the great report. Lucky you – so close to the Hornets bench! MW is my favorite of Jeremy’s teammates – your observations confirm he is a class act!

  • orLinaryjoe

    That one was for them!

  • John Focker

    Rox would’ve been swept by the Clippers last year if the refs didn’t cheat the Clips out of Game 2. So while losing the draft pick to Denver and then swept by GSW is not as embarrassing as completely missing the playoffs, it’s a tolerably damaging outcome for the toxic team that deserves it.

  • DaBoss

    Jlin always so considerate – giving them a nice gift! 😉

  • It’s almost a flashback to 2012

    Jeremy Lin passed to Carmelo Anthony .. through the hoop! 🙂
    Gotta love Melo’s reaction after Lin made it : a mix of despair and surrender

    Knicks fans are definitely cheated out of Linsanity. Feel bad for them

  • Clyde summarized it so well for the NY fans who got robbed of Linsanity since 2012, “Payback!” :}

  • John Focker

    I think that was meant as a parting gift…anything to make Melo happy. LOL

  • zxcvb

    I forgot that MDA is actually the “associate head coach” (i.e. lead assistant) in Philly, not just a consultant. It would be an easy transition indeed.

  • Rick Johnson

    Projected 2016-17 76ers roster

    PG – Jeremy Lin / C – Joel Embiid / PF – Nerlens Noel / SF – Brandon Ingram / SG – Courtney Lee

    Head Coach: Mike D’ Antoni
    Assistant Coach: Steve Nash

  • John Focker

    Courtney Lee is smart, defends well, and is not selfish.

    Not familiar with Ingram though…is this him? LOL

  • Rick Johnson

    Brandon Ingram from Duke, projected to be #2 draft pick, Or they could get Ben Simmons also a forward projected to be #1 draft pick.

    http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/06/nba-draft-prospects-rankings-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray

  • Carolyn Guzman

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  • Rick Johnson

    LOL, that’s what we need as an enforcer to prevent hard fouls on Lin

  • Michael

    Just ask him to take a pay-cut, he’ll be gone once the door opens.

  • John Focker

    Second overall draft, Patlabor AV-98 Ingram, ladies and gentlemen! LOL

    I dare LeBron and Melo to hard foul Jeremy…

  • Rick Johnson

    76ers are in a good position to get good very fast though. They have good bigs, will have ton’s of cap space and top draft picks and 2nd rounds to trade with. If Embiid comes back they don’t need Okafor and could get something good for him.

  • Whitman Lam

    Minnesota has been playing great basketball lately. They just beat the Warriors at Oracle Arena.

  • Whitman Lam

    It’s sad how Golden State waived him just to make a tiny bit of cap space. Lin is a guy who can step up when Curry is struggling.

  • Whitman Lam

    Anybody else follow the Memphis Grizzlies ? Mike Conley is out for the season from an Achilles injury, and in his absence Jordan Farmar is playing point guard and putting up 15 pts 5 ast a game. Not Linsanity numbers, but I think it shows that the Grizzlies system makes point guards like Conley and Farmar look good.

  • John Focker

    Word. If Jeremy’s on this team, they’d be looking at 76 to 78 wins this season, a record that’d be nearly unbreakable

  • Linsurance

    Lin plays a good game…… Proof he should be a starter
    Kemba plays a good game….. He is a product of a system that just wants him to suceed and cut out Lin even though they signed lin to play good for them

  • Linsurance

    Please don’t flame me but I still don’t see how Lins better than kemba

    Kembas stats are 36 minutes per game 21.2 ppg 5.1 Assists 4.5 Rebounds with 43% FG and a 37% 3 point

    Lins stats as a starter 36 minutes per game 18.1 ppg, 4.9 assists, 4.0 rebounds with a 44% FG and a 44% from 3
    and thats not counting Jeremy’s 26 mins per game he gets off the bench

    Am I the only Lin fan who doens’t mind him off the bench?

  • Bulldog

    The reason why I think Lin a better player is the same reason why Steve Nash had gained two consecutive MVP in the Suns. Watching games, not stat numbers.

  • Brewkowski

    Kemba’s usage distorts the stats. The ball is in his hands a lot and he’s the focus of their offense and has the green light to score. He doesn’t play defense or make his teammates better.

    Lin is a superior PG though majority of his time on the floor he’s playing the non-shooting SG and mainly used to spread the floor and to play defense.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    he wouldn’t get much time with the Warriors, so I’m glad he got cut by them.

    Linsanity would had probably never happen if he had stayed there.

  • Pete Roces

    but NBA cares about stats, so bench you go Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    These stats didn’t tell the whole story bc Lin didn’t have the ball in his ball all the time even he started….

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    flagged obvious troll

  • Epie

    omg lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin said from day 1, goal is not replacing kw but to play (start) along side with him.

    Too late for that argument now. Make the best for playoff and move on to a better team.

  • orLinaryjoe

    “And now, we off to playoffs!”

    -the one that got away

  • donsmacau

    So you created a brand new troll account just to bait JLIN fans?

    “Am I the only Lin fan who doens’t mind him off the bench?” ———— YES, Well there is at least one or two other trolls.

    Kemba for the first time in his career can lead wins against “bad” teams however when confronted by playoff caliber teams who play tough defense Kemba collapses. Kemba has NONE Whatsoever History of ever being able to beat the elite teams in the league.

    JLIN has no such problem – JLIN not only can start, he can lead a team over the Playoff elites.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lol. You exposed him.

  • Sesshie

    He exposed himself. Lin as insurance for KW lol.

  • David Kim

    You only think about stats. But you gotta consider how lin is used. Lin has balls in his hands like kemba or lin is staring as pg or sg and etc…..

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Good 1.

  • PPP

    they need to sign/trade for a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson. I like Lee who defends well and doesn’t need the ball in his hands.

  • BobbyH

    The number cited here for Lin is his real starting minutes, 35.6 per game, not 36 minutes per game. Nice try.

  • heart

    Amen. Please keep bringing up this point bc some people conveniently forget or deny this very fact. Lin took Hornets/Cliff’s word at face value that he if he does well he would not be relegated to the bench only–which means he’s not confined to being a bench player but can start if he does well. Lin spoke about this point in his preseason interview. And Lin did well in preseason and throughout the course of the season. Yet, Cliff continues to bypass starting him even though Cliff was presented w/ many chances. Case in point, when MKG went down. That was the opportunity for him to change up the line up, but he didn’t. By starting PJ, Cliff/Hornets’ true motive were revealed and a few of us hear caught on right away.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Absolutely, Cliff had the motive NOT to start Lin whatsoever since the season started unless his starter injuried. Even worse, there were weeks long of “last in first out” substitution average 18 mpg before ASG caused them under .500 standing.

  • heart

    Why do you want Lin to waste his talents coming off the bench when time after time he has proven that he can produce much more when starting? Lin is a game changer and a true PG if he’s given the freedom and reign and support like KW has. You’re comparing apples to oranges on how KW and Lin are being used!

  • donsmacau

    How Far do HORNETS Fall Next Season without JLIN ? Back to 33-49 record?

    Consensus opinion last 2014-15 season not only were starters BAD but bench was even WORSE – Led primarily by Brian Roberts at point guard.

    Refresher: Benchforce comebacks after huge starter holes (10pt+) or losses after large leads (10pt+)
    2014-15: 11 Wins vs. 18 Losses = -7 differential
    2015-16: 18 Wins vs. 0 Losses = +18 differential
    ————————————————————-
    Grand total of +25 games between this & last season where comeback from big deficits or lost after large leads.

    Of course this is not all Bench, but significantly on bench. Could Hornets revert instantly back to a mediocre/bad team overnight? Aaron Harrison, Jorge Gutierrez the answer?

  • Darin Tanaka

    I would say that it’s arguable that Kemba is shooting better than Lin this season as Lin has been struggling with his shot. However Kemba gets a higher usage and more plays ran for him which is why I say it’s arguable.

    However numbers don’t tell the whole story. Kemba is constantly hogging the ball and breaking the offensive system to shoot the ball on his own. On the defensive side he has been TERRIBLE pretty much the entire season as obviously doesn’t put much effort there.

    Lin is the better player for winning that’s the bottom line. I want Lin to be on a team that sees him as such.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This is the best argument for Lin…Too many on here argues about whether Lin should start ahead of Kemba at PG. That was never an option in the first place and Kemba stats makes such suggestion impossible.

    But starting Lin at SG is a legit argument..He’s really done the best playing at the 2, based on his stats.

    Although I can understand Clifford not starting Lin last night against Knicks because Lee is way too small to guard Carmelo at small forward, so they had to go big with Kaminski and let Marvin guard Melo.

  • HVJoy

    You clearly do not grasp the issue or attempt to confuse the issue.

    The issue is that Lin has performed excellently as a starter and has a winning record especially against the top teams. He is a great facilitator, a unselfish team player, and he makes teammates better. He should be a starter which will benefit the team.

    The proof is in his much better stats as a starter than as a reserve on Hornet this season.

    The issue is not Lin versus Walker. Charlotte is not Lin’s permanent home, but a temporary residence for a year.

  • jimmyL

    Nah go for Ben Simmons and Okafor is better than Embiid not way he’s starting

  • The right question that people should ask is, “Is Lin a better PG than Kemba?”

    1. PG Definition
    Check out the wiki definition of what PG responsibilities are:

    Point Guards are expected to run the team’s offense by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right players at the right time. A point guard, like other player positions in basketball, specializes in certain skills. A point guard’s job is to create scoring opportunities for his/her team, or sometimes attack the basket.
    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_guard

    Once we agree that a PG main responsibility are the following:
    1. Control the ball and make sure it gets to the right players at the right time
    2. Create scoring opportunities for his/her team, or sometimes attack the basket

    then we can use a combination of eye-test, game analysis, statistics to answer this question.

    2. Better PG? Better SG?
    My short answer is JLin is a better pure PG because he can run the offense and distribute the ball to the right teammates even without scoring (i.e. Al Jefferson whose post-plays can’t be stopped by the Knicks, MWilliams 3, Hawes on fastbreak). Not all are recorded as assists, just like Hawes shot FTs when he got fouled on fastbreak.

    This ability to make teammates better is very important since it’s the PG job to ensure teammates are involved on offense, which translate to them being involved in defense.

    Kemba is a score first, pass second PG which is why he had limited success because he doesn’t create as many opportunities for his teammates. He actually fits the definition of a Shooting Guard more. And he’s a great scorer

    3. Example of a true PG finding teammates with hot hands
    Example: The Hornets made 13-4 run with JLin as the PG from the start of 4th quarter (81-72) even without him attempting a shot until Kemba checked in with 6:15 (94-76). After Kemba checked in, Knicks cut the deficit a bit with 21-17 run but it’s not enough as the Hornets won with a final score of 111-97

    If you watched the game or look at the game log, you’ll understand why
    1. The Hornets scored 6 out of 10 offensive possessions during the 13-4 run because JLin repeatedly fed the ball inside to Al Jefferson scoring 10 out of 13 pts. Hawes made 1-4 JLin didn’t even attempt 1 shot
    Defense: Hornets won the Turnover battle (4 vs 0)
    2. After Kemba checked in with 6:15 left, the Hornets still scored 6 out of 10 possessions but defense suffered and Kemba did not feed Big Al inside (only 2pts off 1 JLin assist in this period). Kemba dominated the offense with 2 TOs, 2 out of 3 shots, 2 technical FTs.
    Defense: Hornets lost the Turnover battle (2 vs 3)

    From this example, you can understand the different PG mentality that JLin and Kemba had.
    JLin feeds the hot hands of teammates first while Kemba feeds his own hot hands first.
    JLin understands Big Al presents a huge matchup with Robin Lopez who couldn’t stop him at all so he kept going to Big Al. Lopez got ejected because he was finally frustrated unable to stop Big Al. Kemba on the other hand chose to keep scoring as an SG since he felt he got the hot hands (probably remember the #WinWithWalker campaign)

    JLin is a great PG and Kemba is a great SG trapped in a PG body.
    That’s why JLin has a greater ceiling than Kemba in making his teammates better to accomplish more (big wins over Cavs, Spurs). Kemba can work with Lin (Raptors OT win) but too often he shoots too much (inefficiently) when he gets hot.

    But the Hornets have invested in Kemba so JLin would need to find a team that needs him to be a true PG.
    It’s just the NBA business.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Excellent GUARD 1 on 1. One very minor correction, hot or cold Kemba still feeds his own hands first.

  • sws94

    No. I don’t mind him off the bench. I prefer him get the most minutes he can and close games and that is usually through the starting position. However, I prefer he just play and I’m not particularly concerned about classifications such as bench or starter or PG or SG. Just play. If he’s on the court crucial times and with the best players that suit his games, he’ll be in a position to produce. I like Lin at 30 minutes, around 27 minimum per game.

    On the Hornets, the less he plays with Kemba the better as I think he has more involvement in the offense when Kemba isn’t playing and changes the style of play to Lin-ball. But he has to play with Kemba as Kemba plays so many minutes. I think starting with Kemba is a waste of his minutes and fouls he may get.

  • cdblue10

    You might prolly have 2-3 allies but wait until next season and present this argument again

  • sws94

    Good post, psalm. I *do* think the definition of PG has changed because there are a good amount of Kemba-types now. Irving would be an example of a better Kemba. I prefer the other type, Stockton, Nash, CP3 to an extent, etc.

    Definitely see Lin as PG minded. PG is best suited for him but he can also facilitate well from the off-ball PG position, something I think is mischaracterized as SG. Batum plays off-ball facilitator and gets a lot of assists. Maybe he’s a point forward but whatever you call it, it is playmaking/creating/facilitating.

  • James

    Every game counts in the playoffs. By the time Cliff decides to start Lin, they’ll lose the series, maybe not a sweep, but more like 4-1 or 4-2..

  • sws94

    “Doesn’t mind” does not mean *prefers”. You can not mind him coming off the bench yet prefer he starts.

  • Rick Johnson

    But other than Steph, what shoot first, PG dominant team has won the Championship in recent history? Parker is more of a distributing, facilitating PG.

  • sws94

    That’s a good argument against that type. I think the John Stockton type wins. But he didn’t win because of Jordan’s dominance. I think the Irving types aren’t winners and Kemba is not a winner by himself, he needs Batum, Marv and Lin.

    I’m just noticing more shoot-first PGs in the league and a general trend for more scoring and shooting from that position with ball handling. There’s also a multiple facilitators approach for team offense.

  • Epie

    Doesn’t mind also means you have no objections, implying you are in agreement. Little difference.

  • sws94

    anything implying threads on dangerous grounds IMO. Some people mind him on the bench, others don’t. They all may want him to start.

  • sws94

    What happens when Lin starts with Kemba? Does he get more touches? There’s one ball. Lin/Kemba/Batum means a lot of Batum and Kemba touching it with Lin and Lee spacing the floor. Then who bridges and organizes the bench, certainly a necessary part of this team because starters like to dig deficits. Then there are challenges of defensive matchups on 2 guards because Lin is 6’3″ and many of them are 6’6″ or so and already Kemba is undersized at the 1 so you have an undersized front court. It works sometimes against some teams, but not all.

    I can’t find basketball reasons to start with Lin over using him as he currently is used. What are the basketball reasons to start Lin at the 2? You can always play him many minutes from off the bench and close first halves and games with him.

  • rookie75094

    Smell like a troll from cf…hehe

  • xeroid

    I think they’ll be about 41-41. If Lin goes to Philadelphia, then with improved record there and Knicks better, they might fall to 39-43.

  • Mr Chuckles

    This made my day. Too funny.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’d rather Lin start than PJ Hairston and you have the fact that Lin numbers looks better as a starter.

    I don’t know why that is but it is fact..in 12 games, he’s averaged 18ppg…that is a good size sample to not dismiss it…of course, when you start, you get more time + you also get the chance to rest properly, unlike when you come off the bench and have to play straight minutes without rest if you’re playing well.

    When MKG went down, Lin should had at least given the chance to start at the 2 and let him lose that spot.

  • sws94

    What are the team-based reasons to start Lin?

    His better starting stats are without question, but that’s not the main thing a head coach is looking at.

  • CJSHYY

    If you said bc Lin is only 6’3 so he should not start as 2 that’s not make sense bc they used Lin as SG all the time in this team. Not only starting SG all tall so is bench SG….If you think Lin is not tall enough then why Cliff used Lin to close the game all the time to guard starting SG?

  • sws94

    Cliff said Lin can compete with starters in a post-game interview. But then said there are size matchup problems where that would not work with every game and he wanted to keep the playing groups together. So, I’m going inside the thinking of coach’s considerations and basketball considerations over personal considerations.

    He plays 2 then switches to PG and at the end of the game, it’s his offense and ability to be a 3rd facilitator that Clifford went with. So it was more situational management of players vs. the starting playoff groups he preferred for every game that has Lin playing 2 at times. And the times he came in, he wasn’t always guarding the starting 2.

  • it was sad and funny at the same time 🙂
    Watch how both Kobe and DeAndre didn’t elevate much in shooting and blocking.

    Now that gets to be more depressing for Kobe.
    DeAndre barely jumped to block him…. 🙂

  • donsmacau

    How about WINs

    Might a coach be concerned with winning? Might a coach consider, “darn, I’m getting tired of losing to playoff teams; wish I could start a leader who can reliably lead my team to wins over tough playoff teams who play hard playoff style offense and defense”

    Could that happen? Naaaaah not here.

  • CJSHYY

    Most of time when Lin & Kemba together on court Lin always guard SG no matter it’s starting SG or bench SG. I think in playoff Cliff will let Lin close the game more than Lee bc he believes Lin can bring the win for them.

    Like last night, Lin w injury couldn’t shoot well but why he needed to be on court bc no Batum. Cliff will not let both Lin & Batum off court at the same time.

  • sws94

    That’s true, Lin and Batum have not had a game missed together that I can remember. But it is usually Lin playing hurt, not Batum.

    Sometimes Lin guards SFs too.

    I understand why posters want Lin to start. But this particular team I can’t find an argument with this personnel for him to start. And the spot starts were due to Batum’s injury mostly, only a few with Batum and Kemba also in the starting lineup so that means Lin’s role by definition expanded. Mostly when Kemba, Lin and Batum play together there are a lot of posts that Lin is not getting enough touches.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    c’mon mods! don’t let trolls like this overrun this place like the other Lin site. they want you to engage in their ridiculous arguments. Lin is much better PG than Kemba, starter or not. END OF STORY

  • Linsurance

    Why avoid disccusiion we can’t be like Lin is good lin is good we have to ask why is he good? what makes him good?

  • CJSHYY

    I know lots of fans want Lin to start as SG in this team but if you go back to check his interview after came back China… he said something like starts at 2 he has to be 3 option in O behind Kemba & Al…. that’s not what he wants… plus he can’t control the ball… Well, I really think it’s Lin himself didn’t want to start as 2 in starting lineup.

  • Linsurance

    They’ll be fine and who knows Lin might stay him and Kemba seem to get along good.

  • Linsurance

    Kemba averages more assits though, so he does run the offense

  • sws94

    So many things may change with their personnel whenever Lin leaves, whether it is after this season or if he chooses to stay, whenever he leaves then. I’m not sure the Hornets can offer him enough to stay as I think he’s opting out of his contract well under his worth. If he leaves after this season who do they sign? Does Batum stay? Marvin? What other free agents will they get?

    I wish them no ill will. I think they’ve helped change some negative narratives on Lin and the main one is about his defense. Overall, I think Lin looked generally pleased playing with them and more at peace with himself this season.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Sure, they can get together for lunch sometime next season when Lin comes back in town with his new team.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN could be offered $16 million to come off the bench for CHA (if MJ is totally bonkers)

    … but that won’t keep JLIN in a Hornets uniform when the Sixers offer JLIN just $8 million to start at point guard

  • Linsurance

    Im a Hornet fan aswell as a Lin fan, and I’ll say we will get Marv and Batum back, Lin… theres alot of players to fill Lins role but I would prefer him on my favorite team

  • donsmacau

    Fess up, you’re actually just a Hornet’s fan and are quite worried that JLIN leaves and blasts a huge hole in your bench decimating and rolling back all the gains you’ve seen this year.

    Better start shopping for other insurance brokers.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You have it reversed, Lin has helped this team beyond expectation despite marginalizing.

  • Linsurance

    When has Kemba came up short against a good team? In Game 4 of the Playoffs he scored 10 of Charlotte first 12 and finished with a double double, Kemba and Lin both came up big in a playoff type enivorment vs the heat this year. Kemba has bad games yes but so does Lin

  • donsmacau

    Kemba is a STARTING POINT GUARD and JLIN is NOT.

    Kemba is ranked #28 in assists – let that sink in.

  • Linsurance

    Lin knew Charlotte had Kemba at PG- Batum at SG and MKG at SF so he knew what he signed onto and Lin gets good minutes 26mpg

  • Linsurance

    Im talking about when Lin starts vs when Kemba starts Kemba averages more

  • donsmacau

    Nope, JLIN when he is starting with primary playmaking duties he has NOT had bad games this season.
    Kemba has scores of them.

    Kemba has NEVER participated in a winning a PLAYOFF game period. JLIN has

  • Linsurance

    I am but I dont see Lin as our savior like some of yall but I am a Lin fan

  • donsmacau

    Kemba is an orange point guard when starting
    JLIN is an apple shooting guard when starting (primarily)

    Kemba scrapes the bottom of the NBA assists barrel for starting pgs in assists.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Well you finally admit who you are but still lie about being Lin fan too.

    There’s a lot of players to fill Lin’s role? Yes you can find tons of bench player but you can’t find without luck or lies a starter to be bench behind Kemba.

  • donsmacau

    Come beginning of next season when you have Aaron Harrison or Jorge running your bench you gonna wish the man who’s not your savior was back.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Only thing can open your eyes is to wait until next season.

  • sws94

    He’s 2nd option when he doesn’t start to facilitate or first. So, in that respect, he’s more involved when he doesn’t start. That’s been my argument all along. If we want the highest-quality minutes from Lin, they have to be minimal Lin/Kemba/Batum and less with Kemba and more with Batum would be preferred. I’m not sure what Lin prefers.

    btw, sometimes Lamb comes in and upsets things with Lin/Batum where he just starts trying to facilitate and usually makes a mess of things.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    So what’s with the Linsurance? Isn’t he the insurance to save the game from losing? Is he the insurance when Batum was out and he took the team back to .500 with rolled ankle?

  • Sophie Paris

    Big difference is Lin involves other players and make them play better. Which generally ends to a win.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s how a used car salesman defend his scam.

    “You knew we sell used cars when you walked in here”

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    So when MKG was injured what happened?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Even with a bad shooting night, Lin started 4Q to do his PG duty gave team 18 pts lead comfortably until Kemba checked in almost gave away the game.

  • donsmacau

    Yes, JLIN knew what he signed onto and that was to showcase his talents and protect himself from Hornets restricting his movement with an Opt-out.

    JLIN was also told he’d be Kemba’s backup at point guard; Through various circumstances JLIN actually played 85% of his minutes at shooting guard while other PGs and point forwards did the point playmaking.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    When teammates standing around watching their PG shooting is very wrong. That’s why the Hornets were swept.

  • heart

    KW runs the offense when he chooses to and he has more PT and set plays for him than anyone else. Hornets org. is fully invested in KW. From top mgmt to coaching to media, they are catering to KW’s every move on court and off court via media and print press. So this is not a fair comparison between KW vs Lin. When Lin has all those things (hopefully next season), then we’ll talk. Lin did have some of that while he was in NY w/ MDA and he broke the NBA records for his first five starts and would continue to do well if allowed. Since you said you’re Hornets fans, that said it all. You want Lin to be KW’s backup for KW benefit not Lin. If you follow Lin all these years, you’d want to have the best and be the best and that is starting on his own team!

  • Uh-Oh

    I flagged and flagged and flagged its still here.its like cockroaches no matter how many you killed them with how strong the poison is, they always manage to come back! Such strong life! Which came the name in Chinese as 小强!

  • heart

    He’s not avoiding discussion. If you said you’re a “Lin fan”, then you should already know why Lin is good! You should already have seen his game has expanded in all areas since Linsanity days. Lin is a more well rounded and a better player today than in NY days.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s obvious that the ball movement improves with the absence of Walker who looks for shots rather than running plays to involve teammates.

  • LinJa

    When Lin starts as PG, he still doesn’t play 100% PG responsibilities. Batum and Kemba takes big chunks of the PG possession. Thus your stats are skewed and doesn’t apply correctly. What’s amazing is how close they are even when Lin has way less touches.

    Why don’t you add that stat to the touches per game. It will shed a different light.

    I dont mind Lin coming off the bench on the warriors or spurs and get 25+ min.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Making assists don’t reflect that he runs the offense. You could make lots of assist by dumping off the ball a lot. Your teammates are bound to make a few shots out of that and you still get lots of assists from your teammates making bad shots.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s pretty obvious that Walker doesn’t win big games against teams like Cavaliers and Spurs that Lin could. Look at the games of Lin playing big minutes against Rapters, Cavaliers and others and you will convince that Lin is a better PG than Kemba because of his play making ability. Walker only does well against much weaker teams.

  • JE Ballew

    IMO, the most interesting part of the game was the 4th quarter. Lin played point guard for approximately 6 minutes without Walker on the court. During this period of time the Hornets increase the lead by 8 points and the game was iced. At the end of the game after Walker had played the last six minutes and 15 seconds at point guard the team had lost three of their 18 point lead. This was in spite of three points scored by Lin and two by Walker during the last 50 seconds of garbage time.

  • heart

    For the entire game, KW was focused on getting his own stats, for his own MIP campaign, regardless of the flow of the game. Cliff is also the culprit to allow that to happen. He knew he had to win this game bc of the last two losses, so he left Lin in to get the win. Lin was focusing on getting the win regardless of his stats. That was the difference of yesterday’s game vs Knicks. Lin was leading by example, a selfless leader, in that sense to me.

  • You have to realize that when Lin started 12 games, there was only 1 time he played PG full-time when Kemba was out. That resulted in the historic Cavs win for the Hornets franchise after 23 losses to LBJ’s team (with the help of MKG who contained LBJ). He finished with 24pts/8asts/5rebs with 54% shooting (7-11 FGM, 2-4 3GM)

    As a Hornets fan, I’m sure you’re familiar with this but have to ask if it’s a coincidence.
    The 23 straight losses to LBJ-led team and 1 win when Lin was PG is such a stark difference IMO.

    So Lin played SG and part-time PG next to Kemba in 11 out of 12 games and still performed quite well in his stats. That definitely shows JLin’s versatility as a combo guard playing PG/SG but his impact would be greater as a PG in the offensive/defensive efficiency.

    Don’t get me wrong. Kemba is a great scorer, his 1-on-1 moves are better than JLin but JLin’s court-vision as a true PG is better.

    Kemba’s problem as many Hornets fans know is when he gets hot, his efficiency drops and he stopped involving his teammates.

    Check out Kemba’s Stat Splits on FG% based on minutes
    40+min 43.8%
    30-39 42.1%
    20-29 45.3%
    The FG% drops beyond 30-39 from 45.3% to 42.1-43.8%. It doesn’t mean Kemba should play below 30min, it just means he’s not as efficient in his shooting selection above 30min.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walkeke02/splits/2016/

    Contrast that with JLin’s Stat Splits that got better % as his minutes increased (39.6% to 47.2% to 49.4%) That’s 5%-6% better than Kemba so it’s not to be understated.
    It just means that JLin’s more efficient with more minutes. This translates to better offensive possessions for his teammates.
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/717761868756979713

    I’m glad that you’re also a Lin fan besides being a Hornets fan first.
    But if you’re a Lin fan who wants him to achieve his full potential, his ceiling is playing a starting PG somewhere else 🙂 You would need to let him go as the “Frozen” song says … hehe…

    The Hornets is fully invested in Kemba as the PG with his strength and weakness so JLin would need to find a place where he can maximize his potential. As he said, all NBA players want to start so it’s very understandable all of them want to maximize their NBA career.

  • wandertheglobe

    City of Brotherly Love – NOT

    “Hinkie was mortified to see his words in the public arena, never expecting that a private correspondence to his superiors would become public and turn into something of a mocked manifesto.”

    “Colangelo wanted two things: to turn Hinkie into a glorified director of analytics, or run him out completely, sources said”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-76ers-unraveled-sam-hinkie-193118470.html

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    WELL HE SHOOTS LIKE 100 X PER GAME HE BETTER AVERAGE MORE

  • aras

    i usually stay out of things like this because its to no use but. No you are wrong anybody cant fill in Lins shoes. the bench look like a d-league team out there without him. he is their leader and gets them going. not many bench players can do what he can do if any? jamal crawford maybe. without Lin charlotte would not have won a couple of games this season against some elite opponents. i hope Lin leaves and we’ll see how the bench does. im in no way bashing charlotte i geniunly want too see if Lin leaves how big of an impact it will leave honestly.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    you’re only a Lin fan because he makes Kemba better. that’s why you want him to be a backup forever. just wait til next year and your beloved Kemba will turn back into a frog

  • yess! Hi @je_ballew:disqus 🙂

    We see the same impact that JLin displayed in the 4th quarter as a true PG without Walker to make 13-4 run (without taking any shot!) that I outlined below. I’ll make it an article so more Lin fans can understand his true impact to his team with the PG mentality.

    I’m 100% okay with Hornets investing in Kemba as their franchise PG.
    But Lin has proven his true PG potential helped his team to win against top-tier teams like Spurs, Cavs to the extent that Kemba hasn’t been able to (23 losses to LBJ-led teams). It’s not a diss but it shows JLin has a higher potential to lead his team win big games as a PG than Kemba has so far.

    So if he has a chance to be a starter to lead his own team, he should definitely do so to maximize his NBA career.
    As he said several times, “All NBA Players want to start”

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    lol, like Lance?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    oh “savior”.. obvious trolling

  • JE Ballew

    I thought it was an interesting comparison with Lin and Walker playing approximately the same minutes, in the same position, against the same team, in the same time frame to compare the results.

  • Linzen

    What do you mean? Lin IS the saviour! He save us from the eye-sore ISO game known as KW ball.

  • JE Ballew

    A question that can’t be answered with certainity is, how much does an ISO player consistently add to a teams winning? All volume shooters are not ISO players, Curry, LBJ and CP3 for example.

  • orLinaryjoe

    The stats are pretty similar, but don’t confuse numbers vs performance. You have to watch how they play. Is the ball moving around creating better uncontested shots? Is the entire team getting involved? Does the player focus on both ends of the court? Is the player focused on facilitating and scoring.

    Lin is not that scoring spark plug off the bench kinda guy. You want him in the game for balance and stability. If you want that off the bench scoring guy, then you may actually want kemba off the bench. He has not issues shooting before facilitating.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    18ppg is a lot of points to simply ignore…Everytime Lin starts, he scores big time…How can a coach simply ignore that???..That is mind-boggling….Lin also gets to the free-throw line and that has its own benefit in putting the other team in foul-trouble and over the foul-limit quicker.

    Now, compare that to Lin stats and contribution off the bench which is about 10ppg with terrible shooting line and everything…

    In my opinion, the choice should be an easy one for the coach…Lin, for some reason, contribute much more to the team as a starter than as a bench player…

    Than of course, you have the guy that is starting as shooting guard..Lee and PJ..both of them has average no more than 10-11ppg, although Lee has shot much better than PJ…Lin stats as a starter is massively superior to them

    So basically, the choice is have Lin come off the bench where he’s less effective and the starting SG is not that much effective VS Lin starting that gives you maybe 15-18ppg….I think you gain more in Lin 15-18ppg than his 10ppg off the bench.

  • As long as he’s respectful and doesn’t break the forum rules, I hope we can help him understand more about JLin’s unleashed potential as a true PG to make his team better.

    If not, it’s okay. We just exchanged good basketball discussion as civilized people 🙂
    Next season if/when JLin is a starter somewhere else, the raw numbers would certainly speak for itself.

  • yes, JLin chose to feed the hot hands in Big Al and also Hawes, Marvin Williams without taking a single shot since he had shooting struggle himself. As a result, they picked up defensive intensity forcing 4 TOs including Marvin’s steal and JLin drawing a charge.

    But Kemba chose to feed himself since he was shooting hot. The defensive energy went down and Hornets lost the Turnover battle (2-3)

    I wish more people would understand how a team-ball would results in better offensive and defensive energy since all teammates are engaged. I mean like Harden and the Rockets, his teammates just get tired running back and forth watching him score without playing any defense 🙂

  • sws94

    I think Lin becomes more of a scorer in Batum’s absence. The number that would really prove how much Lin would score as a starter besides both Kemba and Batum would be a very small sample as Kemba has only missed one game. No Batum, Lin goes more into scoring mode.

    My observations are Lin is in a different mode when playing with both Kemba and Batum and is much less involved in the offense and extremely involved in the defense. When Lin went crazy with both of them on the court and scored a lot was usually in OTs or very late in the 4Q when defenses loaded up on both of them.

    The reason Lin is off the bench is far more than scoring. It’s organization, penetrating to give Cliff the from the paint kickouts he likes in his offense. Who else does that so well? If Al is not in, it is Lin doing that primarily. He also provides ball-handling and the best facilitating over any other alternative they have at PG. Kemba’s handling may be better, but his facilitating is nowhere near and Roberts was a decent scorer at times, but his facilitation was lacking. Now Gutes has good defense and handles, but he’s not in the same league as Lin in facilitation and basketball skills.

    Lin also adds a “tough” presence that would be lacking from the 2nd unit if he were to start on the bench. Marvin has that presence in the starters. I think that’s something Cliff values.

  • sws94

    Lin’s play was utterly team-play superb in the 4th quarter. I’ve gone out, pretty much on my own, and argued this in the GM team thread. While they say he didn’t play well I said au contraire, the team played the best team ball in the 4Q and had the biggest lead in the game all orchestrated by Lin’s playmaking and facilitation. Not shooting well does not mean not playing well. He was passing, his teammates were passing and getting the best looks for each other.

    Kemba messed up that momentum with his style of play when he entered in the 4Q and then the Knicks got the lead down. He also still doesn’t involve Lin enough whenever he is on. This is in contrast to Batum who works with Lin very well now when both play together. This is a concern in the playoffs. Kemba goes into Kemba ball, tunnel vision, hero ball later in games and still hasn’t learned to recognize what is working with the group of guys and not be the one trying to do everything and score most of the points.

  • Linzen

    A quick browse on the RealGM 76ers’ forum shows that a lot of fans (on that forum at least) really appreciate Hinkie. This is a big surprise to me. They totally buy in on “The Process”. I mean, they are REALLY loyal and passionate about their franchise even with so many losing seasons.

    On the other hand, not many people are high on Brian Colangelo. A Raptor fans even offer condolences. lol

    I hope the trio of Colangelo, MDA and Lin can bring some love & fun & W’s back to Philly. They do deserve some good basketball.

  • Win

    Unfortunately no one will understand except maybe few Realgm Lin’s fan who actually familiar the basketball game. That was the reason I hates realgm so much.

  • Win

    I am sorry if what I am gonna to say might be a little bit offensive but you sounded so much like a “Box Score” NBA fans to me.

  • LAJane

    This is precisely my beef with so-called fans – and I mean most fans of most any player. “Stats” to them mean nothing more than what you can read off the box score. Stats is plural. PLURAL. Meaning the whole picture, because what you can read just off a box score is an extremely incomplete picture. Every time I see high simple box score “stats”, the first thing I do is look to see if Mr. Whoever Fancy Pants actually got the team a win. It’s amazing how many times it did not. You don’t have to have @wu kong level analytic skill, you don’t have to have DefRtg memorized, or blkp48m, to true shooting percentage career average comparisons among PGs. But just have more awareness of entire game flow and notice what it takes from TEAMMATES without which there simply are not starry front-men.

  • sws94

    I think on the Hornet’s boards he has more support than I’ve found on previous teams. There are a few very anti-Lin guys there but that comes with the territory. What I don’t like is when they undervalue him and that’s when I make a case for his worth both in how important he is to the team and fair pay for him.

  • Win

    Most of the posters that like to undervalue Lin imo. But I saw you kept making case for Lin many many time. 100% True Lin Fan! Salute to you.

    Also need to salute to the guy that wrote the letter to Adam Sliver. That is really something.

  • sws94

    Aren’t you jumping the gun with Lin? I hope the air doesn’t bust out of the balloon if there is an announcement that they signed another starting PG this summer. That’s a possibility. I don’t know one way or another but there are a lot of possibilities out there.

  • sws94

    I’m a tired Lin fan because I get the most animosity from fellow Lin fans on Lin boards. It wears me down. I’m not trying to be different, I’m being authentic in my views about him. I support him strongly in my way and totally enjoy his playing and believe in him.

  • Linzen

    Yup, totally! My gun has already jumped so many times… all the way to Philly… and very high too. :)))))

  • sws94

    OK, that’s cool then. Good luck!

  • Linzen

    Well you try to keep level headed. And I choose to get excited about a good situation for Lin. It may not happen at the end. But, at least I am excited now. 🙂

    Peace, SWS.

  • donsmacau

    This is what you posted today on a separate forum, “Hope not [in relations to a question whether Sixers should seek JLIN this Summer]. I want to see Lin go and do well over a season, preferably starting, with none of the Lin only does well because of Mike D’Antoni’s system narrative. ” -SWS94

    You are trying to pull the wool over the nice folks on this site with obvious double speak. I don’t fall for it – I am a witness.

  • sws94

    Peace.

  • donsmacau

    Winning has a way of soothing ill will – If this Philly’s team gets behind JLIN then he will make them competitive – who knows if all the pieces come together the raw talent might be there to even make the playoffs.

  • new thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/how-jeremy-lins-true-pg-mentality-helped-the-hornets-13-4-run-without-attempting-a-single-shot/

    I created an article so it helps all JLin fans and non-JLin fans to understand how JLin’s True PG mentality can make his team better by feeding the hot hands and increasing offensive/defensive intensity. And yes, he can be an NBA starter with True PG mentality in the right system. Also, how Kemba PG mentality is different and it affected team offense/defense in the Knicks game.

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/718190983851028480

  • sws94

    That’s my opinion. Why you bring that here I don’t know but that’s my opinion. I want to see Lin go and do well over a season, preferably starting. That’s Lin support. That’s positive. Coaches and all that other stuff is peripheral in a way.

  • Win

    Haha. I kinda can tell. Just ignore them and enjoy Lin’s game. Hopefully he can plays more PG like the game he played last night. He has shown what a PG should do when a pg is having a off shooting night.

  • sws94

    Sure did. Lin is multi-dimensional. One night he’s knocking down 3s and putting up 21 points, the next night he’s getting Al going and creates total team-ball offense that gets the biggest lead in the game. He can beat you many ways.

  • Linzen

    Really hope so! But it will probably take some time. Even Steve and Dirk needed some time to gel. They won Dallas only 25 games in their first year. It may not be so easy, but i have high hope. 🙂

  • donsmacau

    You appears to have a serious issue with the idea that a trusted mentor such as Mike D’Antoni, who knows your game, understands how to utilize your skills, coaches you for best effect, someone who you can confide in, who will not yank you for menial everyday mistakes, who has committed himself to coaching a lower tier team along with his Colangelo colleagues is wrong for JLIN.

    Ignoring that throughout sports players have enjoyed fantastic success with their mentors throughout their entire careers and you are :

    Not Shy about voicing your displeasure at posters who seek to have JLIN join with his trusted mentor (but only on other sites)

  • sws94

    Can anyone tell me why don is so obsessed with me? Yikes.

  • Win

    I can see a lot of Lin fans are excited about the departure of Hinkie and hoping for a reunion of Colangelo, MDA and Lin.

    However IMO, the problem really lies on whether the team, the FO and the coach have the guts to bet on an Asian PG. Even for MDA, if he really able to be a head coach of 76ers next season, will he has the guts to play Lin like the way he played him with the Knicks? Making Lin a starting PG of the team? This is probably his last shot in his NBA coaching career.

    The fact is, it is a lot less pressure to bet on a african american or caucasian pg.

  • donsmacau

    If a JLIN’s team with Ishmael Smith can get 10 wins in Philly I would not underestimate how many wins JLIN can produce from a rag-tag young group of athletic, enthusiastic players – they just need good leadership

  • heart

    I think the fans and local media was sold on the ‘process’ for too long and now they are still entrenched into believing that perspective. They’re still unfazed and unashamed w/ the ‘losing culture & mentality’, so it will take some drastic changes and some convincing to open their eyes to the new reality to go forward to the winning ways. Remember, Hinkie is the product of Morey. They can manipulate the media well. The media spread their agenda for them. Before Hinkie left, he went on the Zach Lowe show to justify his dealings and brought up the success of Harden’s trade in Hou where he was a part of. I tried listening but had to give up. The guy is egotistic just like Morey. Never give straight answers.

  • donsmacau

    Whenever you deviate from a basketball related issue SWS94 to – obfuscation, denial, blathering anything non-topical and usually personal is when you have lost the audience and you do it consistently Sir.

  • Win

    lol.

  • JAD2456

    I’m glad I finally finished it.
    All the Lin fans have been talking about these blatant flagrant non-calls for quite some time. And the situation is not getting better for Lin at all as Lin has got more hard fouls/hits in this season than ever before. I just hope all fans can push this to the league or social media to arouse the attention and force officials to change. We’re not asking any special treatment for Lin, just a fair treatment would be a great deal for Lin and us fans.
    We should continue to fight!
    Please support!

    Note: There is a typo in the letter. Please change the word in these “fools” to these “fouls” in the last sentence of the 6th paragraph before you send it. Thank you! The letter is attached in the video description.

  • LAJane

    These days, psychology is developing a lot of terms to describe the kind of push-back you occasionally get here. If the choice of language or the angle of thought isn’t strictly conventional there are a lot of folks who feel a discomfort and possibly even anger that is apparently now called being “triggered”, and they react with a distortion of meaning and an an effort to drive away the “offender” in a way that apparently is now called “vindictive protectiveness”. Not my field, but brought to my attention by a schoolteacher friend who was describing the challenge of these behaviors in the classroom. They have to find a way to deal with it. You don’t however…which is why I keep advising to just let go of the rope 🙂

  • sws94

    Got it 🙂

  • donsmacau

    “That’s up to Lin and if the Sixers want him. They may, they may not, he may, he may not. Now is not the time to determine any of that.” -sws94 1 hour ago different forum.

    This is not the words of a poster who necessarily respects the opinions and values interchange with fellow posters. It is the words of someone who seeks to suppress words he doesnt agree with.

    I understand your need to defend your friend – please do your own homework.

  • Linzen

    Good for you, heart! At least you tried. 🙂
    You’re right. The fans are TOTALLY sold on the “process”. I think at the end of the day, Hinkie brought this on himself. He just didn’t do well on drafting prospects. Picking Noel, Embiid and Okafor three years in a roll just doesn’t make any sense. It is as if he is just picking the ‘best numbers’ and completely ignore how to put a team together.
    Plus, learning from Morey is NEVER a good thing! Who has a heart can waive a player on Christmas??!!!

  • donsmacau

    Just to be clear – these quotes that I have posted from SWS94 were posts NOT directed at me – so do not be mistaken that there is some underlying historical animosity.

    These are quotes to random posters – not myself or any of his more vocal critics

  • grover chang

    Sadly agree. Of course MDA likes Lin and knows he could play. But that does not mean MDA only likes Lin. I question how much he wants Lin to be the leader when he wanted Melo traded for DWill. I would not be surprised if MDA goes after someone like Conley.

  • heart

    From listening to the podcast w/Zach Lowe, Hinkie sounds more like a statistician like Morey. He uses ‘the drafting process’ like ‘gaming’, IMO. He mostly talked about numbers instead of characters of the draftees. So that’s a red flag. That’s why 76rs culture suffers. I pray the Coangelos and MDA will change the tide. God had put them in there for a reason…

  • Win

    Yea, I have no idea what is MDA financial but I do know the NBA coaches make a lot less than NBA player.

    After all, it is still all about $. But because of that, I am actually optimistic that some teams and GM might willing to bet on Lin because of the huge Asian Markets behind Lin. We can tell how hard NBA and Hornets have tried to promote Lin even if he is not a starter, a role player (Per Clifford) and a 2 mils contract player.

    And of cause, Lin has the ability to start as PG on this planet.

    Go LIn!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I guess we’ll agree to disagree here….I still feel that you’d get much more out of him starting than coming off the bench..

    For some strange reason, he’s been playing off the charts as a starter and instead of trying to get him to play like that off the bench, just stick him in the starting unit and see whether he can keep it up…That should had been done at the start of the season, so it may be too late now.

    I’m all for Lee starting since he’s a much better shooter than PJ and better defender….But Clifford should had started Lin once MKG went down…Even before acquiring Lee, they should had given Lin a chance to see whether he could run away with the starting SG spot.

    Unfortunately, Clifford had it dead-lock in his head that Lin was coming off the bench no matter what…In my opinion, this is the #1 reason Lin should not return next year…A coach that can only see you as a back-up no matter how well you are playing as a starter, is not worth your time and hard work…

    Most players would like to start and Lin is not the exception since he stated it already.

    At some point, a player would like to be rewarded for getting great result.

  • donsmacau

    Jerry Colangelo signaled with the hiring of his son as GM, knowing full well that he would be accused of nepotism, that he will have the courage to not be beholden to politically correct decisions.

    Colangelos’ now have the opportunity to attract a quality free agent point guard with Coach Mike D’Antoni – some might not like JLIN but Colangelos care little about political backlash – perfect and ideal.

    80% that we are going to Sixers next season.

  • zxcvb

    Obviously, there are no guarantees. But we already know MDA and Lin want to reunite and stay in close contact. So if MDA is hired to replace Brown, then it becomes a very exciting opportunity. Finally a chance to be a real starting PG for a whole season…no more stand in the corner with erratic touches.

    It’s extra exciting because many of predicted, despite denials by media/fans, that Colangelo would mean the end of Hinkie. Then it came true. Many of us also predicted that hiring MDA as associate head coach (lead assistant) could mean the end of Brown (who only got a small 2yr extension). Now many speculate that will come true this summer.

  • Phillycheese

    Seriously, that is some weak sauce “evidence”. Please take your personal agenda elsewhere and stop taking posts from other sites to try to stir up crap here. Philly is a cesspool that I want Lin far away from. Saying Lin can only play for one coach is moredemeaning to Lin, sheesh.

  • Phillycheese

    Psalm, great post.

  • heart

    That’s why you saw how Cliff changed his game plan tactic around the third way of the season to increase KW’s assists. He would have KW do most of the passing/assisting in the 1Q while the starters are still fresh to make baskets. Then once Lin comes in the game, you’ll notice KW would start shooting for his own stats. We’ve witnessed time after time KW avoid passing to Lin. And you would not see KW make any more effort to make assist as the game went on, only on rare occasions.

  • rookie75094

    Let’s go ronnie price! ! ! Spank the Huston rockettes! !!! Hehe

  • Thanks, bro 🙂

  • I’m really thankful that you took the time and dedicate this effort to bring awareness of the senseless flagrant fouls that were not called on JLin.

    I believe it will influence NBA to be more aware of it and take precautionary measures.

    I’m thinking and article with the content and instruction of what fans can do might be helpful. Let me think about it

  • Thanks for trying to explain the impact to RealGM thread.

    We can only hope Kemba won’t get too hot since he can develop tunnel vision and not play a team game. The team needs to play together. The Knicks game was worrisome since it’s way too close for comfort.

  • Rocky

    Do not understand why some have to pretend to be Lin fan, when they are not. Why can’t people talk straight and be honest of their position to have the genuine discussion?

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  • Linsurance

    Never was a Frog he has got better stats than lin every year of carreer but still in linportals eyes Lin>Harden Lin>Durant Lin>Melo Lin>Clay Thompson Lin> Paul George