G69 DEN @ CHA Game Thread

That first free throw by Marvin was so bad. His whole body was lunging forward.

would have been nice if Wade drained that last 3 pointer attempt to force it into OT. Lin would have played OT for sure

See the headline of the Chinese article concerning JLin’s FA. I didn’t read that article. However, I did see this tweet hours ago and let you make the decision of what it means.

https://twitter.com/tradestreetpost/status/710855016953696256

It’s pretty apparent from early this season that Al’s game does not fit the style of play that Hornets is trying to adopt. So it’s really no surprise his name was neglected in this tweet.

Another thing is, I think Trade Street Post is just a Horents fan’s account right? I don’t think whatever comes out of that account is a representation of the Hornets in any official capacity. However it seems that while this account holder was saying that Lin is important to the Hornets, he’s hoping they can get another bargain deal on Lin. That kind of peev me off…

I would like to think Lin, with his performance this year, would still be worth AT LEAST 10-12m in the new year with cap space increase. Fair enough they probably won’t have enough money to give Lin for his true worth, but at least show a genuine gesture by offering like 8-10m and beg him to stay if they really appreciate his service. Another attempt to low-ball Lin would be an insult…

I’m hoping Lin will get the Sixth man award. I think that will increase his value even more.

Playing in Denver is always a challenge.
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Batum will be #1 guy in the team next season.

Anothe good day…LIN FOR THE WINNNN!!!!!!

Game is in CHA.

Welcome back bro!

just too busy at work….and this season is not really that exciting for me to get up early to watch…LOL

I know, i dont even watch a lot of the games. I used to rush home from work, neglecting everything else. Now, i go out with friends and have reconnected with a few. Its awesome. But once jlin gets the keys, ill go back to obsession. Lol

I know,same here I slipped in every now and then when there is a chance.

And it’s an hour earlier.

What? Kemba for MVP? True?

This game is going to be difficult to win. No Cody Zeller means Big Al, Kaminsky, and Hansbrough need to step up. So far, Kaminsky and Hansbrough have disappointed.

He’s got some tough competitions for that category. It’s a pretty tight race like the east conference playoff spots. He’ll probably have to pull off a few more games like against the Cavs and Rockets to be ahead of the other contenders… We shall see

Would have been nice if Lin had defended Wade in those last 2 Heat possessions and made him miss the shot.

Check NBA.com

Not that I don’t believe what you said. What I meant was someone in NBA obviously likes to joke for nominating Kemba.

Chris DempseyVerified account ‏@dempseypost 4h4 hours ago
#Nuggets F Kenneth Faried (back) is doubtful for today’s game at Charlotte. He also missed the team’s last game, at Atlanta.
https://twitter.com/dempseypost/status/711223468285497345

Can’t believe this? Lin came here to help them a lot but what he gets so far? Low playing time w low stats… Hornets only take care those players want to stay w them. smh!

So if Zeller out does Big Al play with starters and Hawes play with BF1? Lin and BF1 were doing better with Hawes.

Charlotte Hornets PR ‏@HornetsPR 4m4 minutes ago
INJURY UPDATE: Clifford tells media that @hornets center Spencer Hawes will be available to play tonight. #DENatCHAhttps://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/711286657723531265

https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/711288441762410496

Oh crikey…. Does that mean Al is back to the bench again?

@JLin7 is ready! Go JLin!! ✊💪🏀🙌#DENatCHA
https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/711313291977424896

yes, unfortunately

Don’t know if Hawes is really injury.

It’s the lady ref tonigt. good for Lin

Very good sign!

That’s 3 consecutive blocks for Zeller. Good for him

I see. Fun is more important.

but if team is doing well he should be there supporting the team.

Not this one.

Hornets C barely looks good, but today is one.

hes coming in…

Oh yeah Lin and Al PNR all day long!

did they do one? i missed it…

just being sarcastic!

oh, i missed that… lol

And he like to do something else.

I am a big fan of big al though after he stood up for our boy… he is added to my “good” list, which includes tyler H and M. Williams…

need some plays set up

I love her… what is her name?

I never understand why Kemba would shoot a contested 3 immediately in a possession without any passing

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Because he like and he can.

Good to see Kemba passing to Lin who cut to the middle to drive for an easy layup

Nice steal by Lin

Denver ‘s uniforms are more like honents

Frank doesn’t wear long socks today. 🙂

he hasn’t passed to Jeremy for 3-4 games IIRC
so it’s surprising

Lin getting some touches tonight

yes, let’s hope it keeps going!

It was well contested.

he initially hesitated but did not shoot the 3. instead, he was hesitating probing, then shot a bad shot…

Note: KW 1/6 for 3FGM in 12min (1Q).

Don’t worry, he will keep shooting.

Good to see Lin taking that midrange

God help Lin find his shot soon!!!

yes, keep shooting and it will fall in

Lin posting up for a banked 2!

Aha…. Definitely something up with his right ankle to affect his jump shots… Layups (right-handers use left foot to jump) are all fine, FT not a problem…. It’s only the jump shots…

Post up, hmmm.

Yes, he’s in the doghouse.

no free throw on that foul?

They’ll say it wasn’t in the act of shooting and I don’t think the Nuggets are in the penalty.

Franks defense = 0, lin gourds 2

Team has low energy

How can you not be angry at the 2nd unit playing like this?

Zeller couldn’t catch Lin’s hand-over pass, TO credited to Lin

so, BF1 is officially disassembled?

Just checked in.
Interesting to see that Hornets is struggling to play with Nuggets:-(

The focus has been on the starters a lot recently, I don’t think the 2nd unit plays with high energy anymore cause of it. Those games where KW gets 40+ minutes and bench gets less than 20 minutes each while KW/Batum babysitting them. It messes up the chemistry.

It’s a thing where the 2 don’t look comfortable playing PnR together.

Zeller couldn’t handle Nurkic’s big presence in the paint

Lee look away from Lin too

it’s clear they don’t practice together

Lin caused Denver another TO, no credit

Lin probably out soon.

actually that was his only personal foul

Lin out

It seems everyone forgets who is pg when Kemba was out,

horrible system especially for Lin

Lin should shoot more when he’s near the rim. Look for his scoring on the drive game more. Hope he does in the 2nd half.

48-33 for DEN

Ahhrrgh

lol then idk. They look really tired and slow

Thats probably the best answer.

have not looked at the game had better things to do to be honest. so how does it look?

Is Lin still in?

DEN has made some difficult shots.
They shot 49% FGM and 50% 3FGM

Good drive by Lin but missed contested layup

should have made that imo used to make them

Indiana vs Kentucky ncaa is more exciting than this game

lol… they brought the thin air to charlotte…

Good drive by Lin, difficult fadeaway J missed but tapped in by Marvin

Lin needs a comeback game badly right now. if single digit games continue stuff like this may affect playoff playtime.

It’s just not happening for him. He had some good looks and some at-the-rim shots but they just didn’t fall. It’s frustrating. He’s trying, though. He looks active tonight and that’s all he could do.

When Lin is missing layups you can tell the funk is real

I doubt it he got there easy its just the roll thats off. His bad shooting is effecting his layups as well

hes trying but he is missing shots he usually makes. i dont know man i just feel this team is not for him. i know i’ve said it many times but it’s like when i see courtney lee play on this team i feel like yeah this guy is an instant fit. he is not a better player but he fits the system better. Lin i feel is getting the short end of the stick. not much you can do just go out there and play. But its just annoying seeing his stats. because that affects his future. Hope he makes a wise decision offseason. because this season im mentally out of for Lin it’s clear how they want to utulise him. Hope The bulls get going!

of course thats normal. as the season goes on.

The whole BF1 focus is gone now. I think the changing of personnel on it has thrown Lin off. He isn’t running the PnR with his usual efficiency and getting guys going like we know he can. His shots still aren’t falling and he’s even missing at the rim and bunnies. It almost feels like he’s forcing now because he wants to get both his facilitating and scoring game going and neither one is really kicking in.

His stats can improve somewhat but there’s no real sign of it. After the Houston game, it’s been the same thing every game. Single-digit scoring with assists going to Batum and sometimes Kemba.

Kemba is back to his vintage form lol…

when Marvin’s and Kemba’s hot shooting slow down a bit, this team will be in trouble

They should rely on team ball movement and passing more than their shooting

It’s probably similar to mine. I have bad ankle as well but I still plays. I don’t limp but it hurts and stiffens when I try to get up after sitting for a while. My wife didn’t notice anything until I brought the issue up…

there’s some truth to that

Oh yea, and maybe spurs. but these 2 teams right now are really boring to watch…

Gee wiz, i don’t know how they are going to expand into other parts of the world… most teams are terrible, and it’s so boring!

This is a good game for Lin to heat up. I hope he can. Kemba, Marvin and others are off tonight. Lee is missing shots too.

yes, it’s a good chance to rely on some PnRs but it might not be on the menu tonight

That Cavs game was so fun to watch. Why wouldn’t Jordan, who was there, want to recreate that?

If he gets the chance to do it but I don’t think so….maybe more min today but less than 10 shots. That’s it. smh!

Stephanie Ready: “Wow, 25% 3pt shooting is low for the Hornets”

(looked at Kemba 1-8, team 4-16)
Ms. Ready: “……….”
#crickets

He has 6 already. He actually played a good amount of minutes and took shots, they just didn’t fall.

I find NBA 2K more interesting than most of these regular season games. At least I’m in control of what happens on the court….

wow smack down tonight

Clifford thinks he is a point guard.

He maybe will take up to 10 shots today so 4 more… His shots didn’t fall so he maybe still will take less than 10 shots… smh!

Batum worth max? puuuuhlease he should be happy he can be in a team where he plays so freely. dumbfounded as to why he is allowed to….he is not a star not even borderline

8 assit to 4 tov is better then what kemba can ever do

I’ve been cringing all season long. He has very good court vision and can see lots of passing lanes. But he’s execution is just sloppy. I guess no one is perfect….

If GSW can lose to LAL then this is not too surprising.

He just want to get easy ast. but it’s not that easy most time.

Yes, but still. Those TOs are going to be costly in the playoffs.

anybody can get good amount of assist when you never get punished for not thinking when you pass….he can get 7 assist but 4 turnovers every game…any other team he’d be in the bench for 10 min straight.

Why coach not using Lamb since everyone has a poor shooting game?

Clifford way overrates him. Batum is OK but he doesn’t have the great BBIQ Cliff claims he does.

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YESSSSSSS!

DIdn’t think, just made the shot. Great to see.

Great D by Lin
Mudiay can’t back him down

14 point game

This is what I wanted to see. Lin is now getting the guys going.

much better ball movement with Lin as pg

BAHAHA batum my god that was deandre type of post moves the h*** was that? went in though.

nice reb

It seems I can watch a longer highlights tonight

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hornets in bonus Lin should go inside and draw foul

is it too early to say Lin is back?

https://twitter.com/At_The_Hive/status/711337649051537408

Haven’t seen Lin hit a tough layup like that. Maybe, something has clicked in. PLEASE. Loving what I’m seeing from him this stint.

he was so wide open and the pass was still slow in getting to him.

Come in FOR Kemba, not with him so much. That way he’s initiating things and is involved.

Shhh dont put he basketball curse.

aww i missed it, just tuned back in

our bigs can’t rebound

the other guy is just too big

they should at least jump for it

Al playing real well right now

they need more variation they’ll give it to al 10 times in a row

Don’t like the reduced Lin involvement with Kemba back in. Make sure ball continues to go through Lin and keep the ball moving. Kemba is NOT good at playing with Lin.

nope they should not play with each other imo

Al is out

EDIT: nvm

i swear when kemba is in it’s like Lin is not even there. might aswell play with 4 guys on the offense let lin stay behind

Like that its a 15 point game

Kemba played no defense on Augustin

Lins probably cooled of right now not exepecting much from Him. Harden is a better facilitator than this guy.

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WOOOOOOO SOMEHOW LIN GETS 12!!!

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kemba cant guard dj

If only Cliff fed Lin more every game.

Lin aggressive tonight

WOW! Didn’t expect Hornets to lose this game. Glad that JLin does well thus far.

Really Lin out?

why?

Lin was playing great, BAD move by Clifford.

Just a stupid move. Bring Lin back in the game. Lee isn’t even playing that well in this game.

Lin does the hard work. Now Cliff wants Kemba and Batum to get stats and glory.

Exactly. smh!

Of course… Kemba will try to get the highest point….

bad foul

No bc he got 16 pts.

No way in H*** Cliff is letting Lin get 20+ and outshine Kemba/Batum. Not even for one game.

Cho=Morey!

we need clutch player aka Lin

That helps his stat to go up today.If he will end up with 14 pts ave this season then that’s a great numbers considering his limited playing time.Nice game,good to know that he didn’t forget to shoot.

Batum lost his man, this is why Nic shouldn’t have went in for Lin. That was Lin’s man.

Then demoted him and ruined his value. Lin’s value is still feeling the effect! Cho/Cliff took big discount from Lin but don’t let him play his game, therefore, Hornets are continuing what Morey had started.

Lin always had been a great player. C Mon hornets do not let Lins work go to waste.

Les did. Morey didn’t want him.

https://twitter.com/PeteStopTire/status/711343725985660928

Cliff will always try to defend Batum or KW but not Lin

The good thing is he got a lot of winning games that can be vividly remember by everyone .

True and its sad.

His defense alone would have saved 2 DEN buckets.

All those games Lin was in late cliff acting like it never happened

So just let Hornets loss this one today.

16 pts shot 6/10 fg, 2/2 3fg. Good.

That’s it…we can’t win unless we push the pace. Lin’s the guy.

dribble and pass to KW

Yea i thought so. Thank you just wanted to check

What do you think of Lins shooting tonight?

DJ closes, Lin doesn’t? This was the game screaming for Lin to close and Cliff goes away from his PROVEN closer. That’s it, no Hornets for Lin next season. Lin has to be really frustrated on the bench knowing what he can do this time of the game and has done for this team.

Kemba has 15 pts – 6/19fg, 1/9 3fg. smh.

Lol i see Charlotte forum A guy wants to trade augustin for Lin…my god some people.

Exactly.

8-10 yea that happens everyday

I just wish Lin would fake an injury and see how Hornets hold up without him. KW would have to play 50 minutes every game lol

LP just reacts to stuff. He’s as fairweather as they come. DJ is alright but Lin is way better.

game over Cliff deserved that

i know man its just annoying he has no explanation to 90% of the things he says its just ooh im too lazy to explain.

No Lin No Win 🙂

agreed, at least have Lin in the last minutes. He was doing great. Why replace him with Lee who did nothing?

Well at least those 5 get the limelight for losing and not Lin.

this loss is on Kemba. 1-9 on 3s and no defense on Augustin.

And they likely will lose to Spurs. Two loses in a row when the middle of the pack is so tight will really hurt.

Hornets loss cause of the defense. Right when Lin sat down, the defense broke apart.

But will he learn his lesson? What’s with the love affair with Lee? He’s acclimated now, there was absolutely ZERO reason to have Lee replace Lin. Maybe it is a win with Lin in, we’ll never know now.

and the ball stop moving. Batu iso failed. Making bad shots is still bad shots

How did Clifford become NBA coach? What a joke, zero IQ.

Yes we all know that but Cliff and Hornets. He is their hero!!!!!!!!!!

Lee is Cliff’s son besides Kemba and Batum.

like last season, no tacos

As I thought, more min & 10 shots for Lin today. That’s Cliff’s standard for Lin’s game now if they need him. If not less than 10 shots. smh!

I hope Rich Cho took notes on why we lost the game.

Lin benched so Batum/KW can shoot. No defense. Augustin outscores Batum even though Batum was making 3s over and over again. Augustin made it look so easy.

we know Cliff isn’t happy Lin got his points. Next game we might see Lin with those 2-5 pt games again.

LOL ! so cute.

Yep. Single digit point is to be expected for each game from now on, until he sees a need. Again, Lin’s PT is dependent on how others play not how well he plays. Cliff has learned from the last game vs MIA to not allow Lin to be the clutch hero player again. Cliff is so predictable now.

Like I said Lin took less than 10 shots per game now. Today bc they needed him so 10 shots. Ya! Next game probably 6-8. Hope so.

Only caught the final 50 sec of the game tonight. I am glad Lin scored 16 points, but surprised that Hornets lost to a team with worse W-L record (28-40 before game), and 10th rank in WC.

sure…
https://twitter.com/JTyree704/status/711349676885348352

https://twitter.com/JTyree704/status/711349190513795072

He abandoned the have JLin in in the clutch even when he was instrumental as part of getting Denver’s lead down. That’s unacceptable. If he wants to step it up as a coach, you don’t do stupid things like that. Clifford also knows how clutch Lin is. There was no good reason for Lee closing tonight, defensively or offensively.

https://twitter.com/kianainhi808/status/711351218635800578

Kemba Batum hero ball doesn’t win every game. More often than not, it loses games.

Broke the starting lineup I guess.

That’s what I had in mind…Kemba didn’t play long enough min & took too less shots…. smh!

It can never beat any good team. That’s why he has literally never beaten a Lebron team in his entire career.

It’s so sad/funny watching them diss Lin. We all know what’s going to happen: EVERYBODY LOSES. Just like HOU, NYK, LA. Lin gets marginalized and held back, and his team craters and crumbles without him.

That jump shot looked good tonight. It looked like his old form. He took it up slow and long and release at the top.

Who wants Lin to stay in Hornets next year?

go spurs

i missed the second half. what happened? Lin seemed good. Hornets would not missed the 50% pizza if Clifford let Lin played 1 more min PG

Lin got hot was taken out with 5 minutes to go for Lee. who had no stats after that period. We lose

Really? Clifford was just insane. He just cannot let Lin shine.

nope

Yup lee added nothing i don’t get why he finished Kemba couldn’t guard his man but was left in.

Ask them what GPA or SAT they got.

In his career Courtney Lee has averaged less points, rebounds, assists and steals than JLin. His upside is far, far below Lin. Lin has been Mr. 4th quarter his whole career. Why on earth is Lee playing more minutes and closing games over Lin who is clearly the better player?

He is taller

Clifford has been successfully devalued Lin for whatever reasons. Lin showed his value in 14 seconds last game. It did not make Clifford look good.

no lin, no win…

lol… youre giving them way too much credit for assuming they even took it…

If Lin closed this game with win. you know what questions would go to Clifford.

No. It’s in then a news. You see the headline being flashed.

i hope he is asked the appropriate questions now after bone head moves…

Thank you for the briefing. I am waiting for the long Lin highlight.

Not me. I don’t even want them in the playoffs

Yes but he was pulled out because Clifford thought he will get lucky again with his formula.

would love it even if he got 15 min i’d love it.

Sounds like Rox; Bev’s D for Harden’s O.

Heart’s earlier posting:
“Cliff learned from MIA game not to allow Lin be clutched again… Or else he should have kept Lin in bc he was in the groove and was helping Hornets trimmed down the lead. After Lin having the highest points at the time 16pts, Cliff subbed Lin out for Lee. Cliff thought the momentum has turned to Hornets when NB hit 3s 3times, but he and Cliff’s chosen players couldn’t carried through w/ a win.”

Welcome to the club.

Spurs second unit is lacking

Patty is in the way….

wow. exactly.

no better chance to grow than going to san antonio if he has the chance? no brainer

Thats on u coach…

He may not play a lot at first

and i’d have no problem with that. because its the spurs not charlotte lol..they have an ACTUAL SYSTEM

Thanks HVJoy for helping & understanding me.

I did not see Hornets player and coach said any good thing about Lin last game. Now you know why few players would pass the ball to Lin. NOT KW, NB,FRANK,LAMB (not sorry),LEE, CODY

Me too.No other choice but Philly or Nets.If Kidd will get him I will be very very happy for him

You got it Sport.

But he’s another midget SG playing PG… Unless Spurs are willing to give up on him and trade him, Lin will not be totally freed in the Spurs. Damn Lin just can’t catch a break…

Off topic but i have to say those dumb state farm commercials with chris paul, kevin love and others r so bad that it makes me want to switch to progressive… lol

I so believe they follow Clifford’s instructions or Clifford just encourages them did so by not saying anything

thats how commercials work. they dont care if its bad or good. they just want to get you talking about it bringing up their name

Saw a clip of Lamb’s face. He looked sad on the monitor tonight. Probably bc of the loss but his situation is dire. We’ll see when Cliff let him out of the doghouse… Daniels plays team ball but he couldn’t make shots tonight either. He’s a shooter and needs to be set up for good shots. He’s also covering too much D which could tire him out too to be an effective shooter.

I actually feel nauseous when i see those commercials… geico and progrrssive have the best

it seems everyone is suffering because of kemba-ball

I dont think he cares about the loss.

Hes lying about charlotte bc jlins on that team rt now

I’m thinking: Dire=PT, not $.

The only teams worth watching.

Spurs are so wonderful. 11 players with a 15 plus PER. only 3 players scoring in double figures.

only 2 with over 30 minutes 32 minutes is the most. Everyone play and does so unselfishly

THe one in traffic was great to see. It was such a tough shot and it shows he can still finish like that when he’s determined to.

Is this reverse psychology? Bc Lin is still on the team? It’s good that his brother does not say anything negative regarding Lin’s team… To me, that’s smart of him…But we fans can speak like we see it.

You want unselfish thats the best option

Should have been an and-1 as well, but ref swallowed his whistle.

I honestly think MJ likes Lin. By far the most excited MJ has been this season was the CLE game and it’s not even close. It’s Cho and Cliff who don’t want to bet on the Asian guy. Too “risky.”

They love their pet favorites. Lin is leaving so they have no real desire to see him succeed. They’ll use him for dirty work and Lin is so good at that, they can make the playoffs that way.

those organizations are notoriously run terribly

Lee is an aging role-player. He’d be happy to stay in CHA for 3-4 years for moderate salary.

Lin is definitely opting out and leaving. They want to see if Lee can replace him.

Ya!

Not ideal, but better than this!

Too early to settle, though. Lin has elite ability and just needs a chance. So many PGs are role-players until they get a chance and BAM, they’re putting up All-Star stats for winning teams.

Why would you say this of Cho? I really haven’t heard or seen much of anything from him to get any conclusions of how he feels about Lin.

He could be one. But, maybe not. Maybe he just doesn’t make his opinions public. I think you have a point that he may not want to show favoritism to the NBA’s Asian player. And may even overcompensate not to.

Al is mud off of the bench, not a spark. I don’t see him coming off of the bench as such a great idea.

In terms of what is in Lin’s power to change, he had a wonderful 2nd half. He struggled some in the first half but really, when he was needed to score and get the offense in gear, even with Big Al in Lin got the players going and himself. 16 points in however amount of minutes was good. OK, so he didn’t get an assists, but he still was doing the right stuff to set up assists, which is something that doesn’t show on the stat sheets. And Al blew some more chances that Lin set up for him.

so, has Lin reverted back to this old form?

Lin was the most important acquisition this summer was solely because of the 2 preseason game in China for marketing purpose. You can see how Hornets see him which is a solid back up role player with about 20 mins a game.

But I would say Clifford still a lot better than BS.

I can’t even tell the difference… his new one, his old one, the quicker release now versus the older slow release. it all looks the same to me, haha. that’s why i need other people to tell me.

has always been the new form. inconsistent due to the system and forcing shots. kemba handling the ball means no open shots

From my observation, ever since Lin became marginalized after the Cavs game (where MJ stood on his feet and was really into the game), MJ never showed up to anymore home games. I really do think MJ likes Lin and wants him to be the future of the Hornets but Cliff wants KW/Batum. It’s kind of strange for MJ to not show up when we’re winning so many home games. I think MJ knew it was about to happen.

Spurs playing small verses Gsw and its working. Mills and Parker even though they are short. Real coaching.

He will use Lin for defense. As usual. Cliff probably is mad because Lin got his points and they lose.

We will not drop that low. We face too much bad teams. 3 games from the 7th spot. We face detriot, brooklyn, and philly twice

oh please he’s the owner and kemba was his pick and has jordan shoe deal, you honestly think if MJ wanted Lin to start he wouldn’t say anything? the

True. Cliff chose to win w/o Lin, but his chosen players couldn’t carried to a win. So sad that we have to think this way…

Who has more power Dolan the owner or Phil Jackson? It’s definitely Dolan if not Melo would’ve never gotten his extension. It’s MJ’s team and he’s the owner if he wants something there’s no way he won’t have a say. Their plan was always Batum and Kemba, Lin was used for marketing purpose in China.

Even Curry can have a bad game. It doesn’t happen often, but he had one tonight.

Great win by the Spurs.

Rox caught cheating. The ball is literally “sticky” in Houston:
https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC/status/711360842487504896

Stickum on the hands for a better grip.

Can you explain what’s this about? Stickum?

http://www.myajc.com/news/sports/basketball/rockets-howard-caught-using-stickum-spray/nqpRC/?icmp=myajc_internallink_megamenu_link

Still need to add 1 year opt-out clause just in case.

Lebron had it with his Cavs contract. It’s to protect himself from being stuck with a bad team!

He is not lebron. he will get with inflation he will get 4 mill which is equivalent with the 2 mill he got this year because of the raise in pay next year. He also would be in a situation where team doesn’t need him to succeed. Team doesn’t have to play him like the lakers. 3 year deal or no. ITs becoming a running joke that Lin last 1 year for each team

14 games left b4 d the playoff,Cliff better not get comfortable since his centers and 3 chosen players are really shaky against fast and long players.

You have to wonder if he had done this before. Milsap brought it to the ref attention. According to report, they said that Bickerstaff slid over to hide the bottle…http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25523933/rockets-dwight-howard-busted-for-using-stickum-spray
“Official Monty McCutchen grabbed the ball and went to each bench to issue a warning, saying ‘Stickum is illegal in the NBA.’ After first going to the Hawks bench he made his way toward the Rockets bench. Rockets coach J.B. Bickerstaff slid in front of the can, still at the scorer’s table. McCutchen noted he knew what Bickerstaff was hiding.”

Not only was Howard cheating using a banned substance but Bickerstaff obviously knew it and tried to hide it…

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25523933/rockets-dwight-howard-busted-for-using-stickum-spray

“From the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Chris Vivlamore:

As Howard was about to check back into the game, he sprayed his hands at the scorer’s table with a can covered in white tape – apparently to hide its contents. He entered the game as Paul Millsap was at the free-throw line and grabbed the ball after a made attempt. When Millsap got the ball back it clearly had a foreign substance on it.

Official Monty McCutchen grabbed the ball and went to each bench to issue a warning, saying ‘Stickum is illegal in the NBA.’ After first going to the Hawks bench he made his way toward the Rockets bench. Rockets coach J.B. Bickerstaff slid in front of the can, still at the scorer’s table. McCutchen noted he knew what Bickerstaff was hiding.”

https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/711351211874717697

the Warriors have two excellent ball handlers/passers (Curry and Green) and they make sure the ball is always in their hands. the Hornets on the other hand.. uugh

It was playoff atmosphere tonight on Spurs home floor. Pop made adjustment to sit Duncan. He’s all about winning. And they won. GSW will learn from this game and do better. I really like both teams. Their team spirit and team ball are very admirable…

Something about first pick draft IIRC.

More turmoil in houston. Gotta luv it…

yup. in the off-season prior to Lin signing with the hornets, i argued that Lin should really consider his team wisely and join either the Spurs or Warriors but the haters keep saying he won’t get playing time. well, look at his situation now 😀

They’re intended to keep him until Kobe and Scott ganged up on him

MDA looks like best scenario. He needs a good pg

But they’re the owners. They can do whateva they want.

Kobe dictates what needs to be done in LA,owners thought that Kobe can still reel his team into the playoff.

They need Kobe for the rating & money….

Buss should have instructed kupchac to knock some heads down there.

I don’t trust any team other than MDA’s and Lin needs to reunite at all costs! He’s the only coach he won’t marginalize him over “fake stars”.

Bad teams like the Nuggets were supposed to be ? This team can’t seem to close out weaker opponents.

Spurs still has Parker while Warriors are loaded with guards and star players.

Warriors who didn’t even give Lin a chance when he first signed with them? Right…Lin wants his own team as starter, not play backup behind Curry and Thompson!

I remember some drama… so she calls the shots?

Rockets really lack morals as an organization. Even their head coach, J.B. Bickerstaff was trying to hide the spray can of Stickum. The coach was in on the cheating. One has to wonder how long this has been going on, and how many games have been fixed due to the Rocket’s cheating.

Yep. This could be big if they can get to the truth. Unless someone comes forward to spill the bean, NBA won’t want this to get any bigger…IMO.

If MDA has any say/power, Lin will start for sure. It depends whether Jerry Colangelo will buy into JLin. MDA can rave about JLin but he will have to back it up with stats and wins.

Ryan Kelly Jr? you get the idea

My son told me JLin would get good shooting after watching Zootopia 🙂
After 60% FGM and 100% 3FGM, he should watch it before every game LOL

Disclaimer: there might be some kids & veterans involved in the game but they were tough 😀

Missed today’s game….from game play and the score…Lin was hot Q3 and Q4….was he playing PG?

Overall NB and JL had good game…KW shots was not falling I guess and trying to force the shots? Going 1-9 on 3s is bad.

MW couldn’t get it going too, I guess..

CC should have kept Lin for the whole Q4…that could have made a difference!

Happy that Lin’s shot starts to fall…great game for Jeremy! Go Lin

GIF time: JLin Circus Shot!
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-20-2016/8nKsbx.gif

today?…not everyday?!…lol

Oh! Almost but vs Cav…bc they probably thought they would loss anyway. Why not gave Lin a tryout….

Or let Lin be the scapegoat. Why sub Lin in at 0:14secs left? Cliff wanted Lin in for defense to pass the rock to KW or NB, but instead Lin got the rock and made the heroic clutch FTs to win the game. So thanks to MIA who fouled Lin whom actually made Lin the hero of the clutch win.

Ultimate question!!!

Not the first time they’ve pulled Lin like that when he’s scoring well and won’t be the last. Cliff didn’t want Lin to out score Kemba and take the glory! I hope they do that a few more games with Lin getting his points so they’d be out of playoffs! If not for Lin they won’t even be in playoff picture, they don’t deserve it.

LOL pre-game ritual just like MJ’s applesauce!

always..leave JLIn there to get the lead and then insert and replace JLIN for KW and Batum to win!

yup, it happened in the ATL, PHI games now the DEN game
It’s definitely intentional to let Lee close no matter what

i just hope the HOrnets fans can see it clearly that their coach had shown bias towards JLIN and shout it loudly (maybe a wishful thinking!)

yes, things changed after the ASB or the Cavs game

Before ASB, Cliff would ride Lin’s hot scoring to close games but no more.
My guess is they asked Lin for a verbal promise to resign but he refused so they try to phase him out.

maybe, a non committed Jlin with hornets will change hornets view and plans for him, but with such role, JLIN knew he can get the breather as a true PG. before asg, they knew they can’t rely with PJ hairstone thats why the Jlin usage, but after Lee arrived, cliff like Lee much and maybe persuaded by usage to resigned with them, thats why the confidence on his play!

What about Lee? They gave up picks for Lee trade and he’ll be FA also. Did they also got verbal commitment from Lee? They’re given him Lin’s minutes to integrate him for next year.

yes, Cliff’s comment of “wait until you see Lee in a few weeks” after Lee had the 1st good shooting game showed he planned to feature Lee as the perfect “3 and defender” next to Kemba because he doesn’t need to ball like JLin does which takes away some scoring from Kemba

Maybe there was a verbal commitment from Lee that he will stay on for next season…we really dont know whats happening behind the season…never the less, keeping Lin as a closer would only provide Hornet a greater chance of winnning

My guess is they like Lee enough to promise him he’ll be a perfect defending SG next to Kemba as the future All-Star. Otherwise, it doesn’t make sense not close with a hot-scoring Lin over Lee

Bc Lin will not stay & Lee likely will stay…. They want to build their own team chemistry for next season. Lin is just one year deal. Consultant + Firefighter.

Rox lost to Hawks today…while watching the highlights…man! Michael Beasley can really pick and roll…wish he plays with Jeremy…this guys sets some strong and smart picks and he goes strong on the roll as well

yes, it’s pretty clear that’s the direction they’re going

nothing so special about Lee and Lee knew that a good trusting team is ok with him, so he will stay with Hornets because cliff promised him to be a starter and will not be traded..LOL!

Ya! My friend told me. He’s better than Ariza… hope he can be the same team w Lin next season. Don’t want Rox to get him next season.

cliff making a wishful thinking then that Hornets win without using ahot JLIN!!! a LOST CAUSE!

G – Jeremy Lin, Charlotte Hornets – The years following the Linsanity breakthrough in New York have been at times rather trying for Jeremy Lin, but he looks like he’s finally found a bit of comfort on this blossoming Hornets team playing behind Kemba Walker. In 26 minutes a night, Lin is averaging 11.4 PPG and 3.0 APG, while turning the ball over only 1.8 times per game. Ever since Michael Kidd-Gilchrist was declared injured for the season, Lin has stepped up considerably and really helped the Hornets establish themselves as what appears to be a sure-thing playoff team. That early-season Mohawk was the real MVP, though.

https://twitter.com/bolero2010/status/711439684115693568

Really? Oh! Harden OK w that?

That was great defense!

Wait…there is good ole’ Marvin Williams.

Abusing dj

I’m surprised Cliff didn’t let Lin post up on DJ more than once tonight. Lin clearly has the height advantage. Kemba was hopeless against DJ.

They might not even make it this season let alone next.

lefon got it right

Don’t have that much faith in MDA. He digged out Lin from the end of bench 2012 just because he was out of option. Then Linsanity was out of his control, he had no choice but played Lin.

The Stars have aligned. Something great is coming for Lin. Sometimes when you think that everything is not going well, a better situation will surprise us! That’s what hope and faith and perseverance can do. And I am positive in my thoughts in this aspect. The coming of Linsanity 2. I don’t give up my hope for Lin 🙏

Clifford doesn’t mind the loss as long as Kemba is not outshines by Lin. Their goal is still with Kemba. Playoff is a bonus.

Clifford deserves to lose every game now if he insists on using Lee and not Lin

Nobody knows yet before Linsanity. After Linsanity mda trusts Lins play. He is like Lins second father in the NBA.

The fake stars r so bad. Yesterday made me realize that nba has terrible teams sans gsw and spurs…

Laughable.

Oh nope. He did vs Nate Robinson couple of years ago… And another one maybe but don’t remember against who.

You got it! Cliff really “didn’t know that Lin could win the (MIA) game”, but the fact that Lin did win the game for Hornets to have home advantage on MIA is a testament to Lin’s clutch skills & ability, not to Cliff’s credit. And yet, after that important win, Cliff still determined to win w/o Lin at cost of losing winnable game vs Nuggets that his preferred players could not bring it home. Even Spo and Wade had to give Lin credit for the FTs, but did we hear Cliff give Lin any mentions or praise for his Clutch FTs for the MIA win? NADA…

I have long maintained that Lin is in a better situation compared with Houston and LA. I will explain my reasons. But first I should set some parameters.

I believe Lin should be a starter and I believe Lin has not completely given up hope of starting.

So when Lin signed with the Hornets to be Kemba’s backup, there were only 3 good outcomes:-
1. Lin supplants Kemba as starter.
2. Lin starts or plays starter minutes alongside Kemba.
3. Lin improves his marketability for the next season.

Option 1 is out of the question (it was always a long shot anyway). Option 2 was promising at first but politics killed it.

We are left with Option 3 (audition for next season) and thankfully Lin has done a lot to improve his image this year.

He saved the Knicks and led them to the playoffs. He then also brought the Rockets back to the playoffs. However with all the hype around Harden, Lin never got the credit.

In Charlotte we have an interesting situation whereby Kemba has enough political power to ensure no one overshadows him, including Batum. At the same time Kemba is such a long term proven loser, you can’t help but to think that Lin has helped to turn the team around. So the narrative is that Lin and Batum helped to bring this team back to the playoffs, unlike Houston where the media machine was only focused on hyping up Harden.

Free agency is really all about perception and not hard stats. So even if the system or his stats were better in the past it does not matter as the general perception is more important.

Remember that Harden got his big contract after he was Sixth Man of the Year and his team was in the NBA finals.

Yes Lin may not get the same opportunities due to prejudice but he certainly has the best chance in the longest time for getting a proper starting role. Or put it another way, if there was an “Asian discount” it would be even worse if he was in a bad situation like in Houston or Lakers.

Highlights …
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We are on the same page on this issue.

https://twitter.com/Sportige/status/711531114750480385

It’s very interesting to me living in New York City to see what happened with Lamb and the Charlotte media lack of reaction. As far as I know, they haven’t asked Clifford about Lamb. Here was the highest scorer off of the bench earlier in the year and now he doesn’t play for 3 games. Where are the questions about him? In NYC Cliff would be drilled about what is going on with him.

I’m not a Lamb fan and yes, Lamb hasn’t played all that great, but does he really deserve 3X DNPs without the coach saying anything. If you are following Lamb that must really feel terrible to get nothing from the coach and not having your player play at all. I really dislike that Cliff could do this to Lamb without saying anything and it’s hard to tell if Lamb will play anymore or in the playoffs. And it isn’t like Daniels plays well most games, he’s played no better than Lamb. And sometimes, this team could use Lamb.

I doubt that they would rather loose. I can see the scenarios where Cliff thinks Lin and Lee are interchangeable defensively. So, he subs in the “fresher” player to finish the game. But to us Lin fans, Lin is a rhythm player so taking him out at the wrong time has negative impact on the team.

I agree..The Lamb drop out of the rotation is very weird…Lamb is not a good defender, but is Troy Daniel any better?…At least, Lamb has some length to bother the guy he’s marking.

My guess is Lamb got into an argument with Cliff..He probably snapped because of Clifford constant yelling at players, just like we saw Al Jefferson snapped at Clifford during an previous game earlier this season…This probably happened during practice and Clifford is showing him who’s boss…Of course, that is just speculation of my part.

Anyway, if you check Lamb per36 stats, it’s pretty good….Shocked that he was dropped like that with no explanation.

Maybe Clifford didn’t like the fact that he got paid…Probably felt Lamb did not earn that type of money yet.

Or maybe there’s a war between Clifford and the general manager who decided to sign Lamb..How can Lamb be given such a contract with the approval seal of the coach who is in charge of playing time..Did the manager who is Cho, checked on Clifford before signing Lamb to this contract?

Of course, if the coach says I don’t trust him on defense, Cho should had held off on giving Lamb such a contract.

I’m hoping that William and Lin will play together next yr. either in New York or Philly.But Bucks won’t be a bad choice since Kidd just play to win not for anything else.No Spurs or GSW for me.It’s just me.

The Hornets signed the contract with Lamb too prematurely. It was based on a small sample size early in the season. Lamb is a player with low basketball IQ and he’s constantly a disruption of the offensive flow especially when the offense is running through Al. But I do agree that Cliff should not shut him down entirely. Lamb is still a useful matchup against longer player. From a basketball standpoint you have to give a player enough minutes to find his rhythm. I think that’s what Cliff is doing now to Troy Daniels. Troy’s 3 is needed in the playoff.

I meant Hornets is not a bad team.

Lol, Kawhi Leonard is a young 24 years.

I am with you! Someone in this forum always gives him a reason doing this or that to Lin, this is already end of the season, so obviously C lost all the benefit of the doubt!!! Like Miami game, C didn’t give any credit to Lin but Daniels n Tyler H.

Actually GSW and SPURS would fit Lin better because their system seems cater to his strength but these2 teams are already set with their players unless their coaches will let him play for more than 20 mins and that will be a big IF.With his strong performances with Hornets even with the circumstances ,he still posted a solid numbers which is good enough to buy him a team that will give a shot to be either a starter or be a really solid 6th man .With Philly and Nets he has a big room to improved for a 3-4 years contract,then prolly join a caliber championship team for a possible shot to a ring when he will reach the age of 32 and up and if he’s still playing.

Clifford’s mentality is easy to understand.

He has his “stars” in Walker and Batum and Lee and MKG and Williams.

Everybody else is regarded as “underneath” those guys, and anybody who outplays those guys gets punished.

Lamb just suck. Lin is clearly being misused/marginalized. don’t confuse the two

Didn’t like a bit how Lamb played lately. But to flat out say he just sucks is a bit harsh…. His main problem lately has been that he forces and hogs too much. I remember at one stage we have quite a few here wanting Lin to do the same. I don’t blame Lamb for trying what he has done. It’s really a result of offensive orchestrating duty being taken away from Lin that players like Lamb graduately losing his share of touches. If we are in his shoes, I’d guess we would do the same.

I’d say most of the problems we see lately are related to Clifford over-prioritising his pet players namely Kemba and Batum. I’d say the other 3 in the starting lineup are put there to cater for them. While the rest just gets dumped on to the bench… Clifford could’ve been a good coach if he can get rid of his obsession with his pets and focus on chemistry building for the entire team instead of trying so hard to devide them up into starters squad and bench squads…

Charlotte Hornets: What’s Up With Jeremy Lamb?
‘ via FanSided Android

http://swarmandsting.com/?p=40276

decent players.

Lamb outplays Kemba as SG that’s why Kemba doesn’t like him when they gave him that big contract, he felt threatened. Then Cliff just benched Lamb entirely. I have no doubt Lamb’s mistreatment is the same reason Lin is mistreated.

Nope Cliff is played Lee just like he played PJ so Lin doesn’t get to start and outscore the “stars”.

First time? then you didn’t see Lin’s game enough. LOL

I find this extremely amusing because Kemba Walker does not play defense nor share the ball on the offensive end of the court but he is handed minutes after minutes even in games where he could rebuild the great wall with all his bricks.

To put it simply, Lamb probably pissed off the wrong people in the organization and he got black-mailed as a result. He really needs to learn to behave better since he was not drafted by the Hornets nor designated as the “star” of the team. The silver lining here is mostly all NBA contracts are guaranteed so Lamb’s got 21 million reasons not to get too mad through this mess.

The actual answer is far simpler than the article makes it out to be.

Clifford simply doesn’t want Lamb to outplay Nicholas Batum in Batum’s contract year.

Troy Daniels is not as good as Lamb, especially defensively. He doesn’t threaten Batum the way Lamb does.

The three best Hornets players are Lin, Lamb, and Hansbrough. None of them play very much.

As usual, the superb defensive numbers that Lamb puts up contradict your hater eye test position that views Lamb strictly as a player that takes shots away from Lin.

NO.

Contrary to what you think, basketball isn’t just the “Jeremy Lin Show”.

YES

OK, since you are a diehard legitimate LOF.

But I’m not, so NO.

NO, you are ONLY thinking in terms of Lamb in relation to how he “takes away” touches and shots from Lin.

You only want Lamb to meekly pass up all his shots to Lin because you only want Lin to be the star to the exclusion of everyone else.

I want lamb to shoot and to drive to the rim BUT NOT BY HIMSELF COAST TO COAST. WE ALREADY HAVE KEMBA.

That does not make sense. Lamb had played the first half of the season. And so you think Lee is okay to beat Batum? Batum is now playing SF, and he is in different level with Lamb.

NO.

Lee is playing like crap and doesn’t have enough game to outplay Batum or even Daniels.

Lee and Daniels don’t threaten anyone, but Lamb and Lin do. That’s why Lamb and Lin don’t play despite putting up massive production.

Ok, Lamb rebounds n go coast to coast. Now how many dnp games already?

Never disagree lamb attacking and stay agresssive, Not by himself. He has 4 other teammates too.

You are looking at things from a fan’s view, which also happens to be the correct view as far as actual basketball production goes.

But the way Clifford perceives it is completely different.

Clifford is TERRIFIED that Batum will walk in free agency.

Thus Clifford is giving Batum every privilege while making sure that any competitors at Batum’s reserve PG and starting swingman positions are eliminated. And that’s Lamb and Lin, specifically.

If Courtney Lee were not playing like utter trash and the team had a backup point guard, Lin would be DNP CD just like Lamb.

The problem is, lamb freelances and tries to do more than he’s capable, just like kemba.

That’s a GOOD thing.

It opens up the court for Lin, and that’s why Lin’s numbers are much better with Lamb than without Lamb.

Unlike Walker who is not gifted enough to truly create, Lamb can actually make things happen. That’s why the Charlotte Hornets win so much more with Lamb than without him.

I agree with take me back here. Lamb is very hard to watch, he’s trying to play alone a lot. He doesn’t do that well. He’s not on the bench because of great play..

Sorry, being judged is part of a discussion forum.

And you STILL believe that Lamb shouldn’t be taking the ball “away” from Lin even though that’s part of the game.

You can call me wrong too. I can take the heat AND not take it personal. You have good points, even thogh I COMPLETELY DISAGREE.

Please do not bring batum out justify lamb iso coast to coast. Lamb has been a freelance nba player hitting a 24 mil jack pot

oh pahlease. Lin gets tons of assists if Lamb plays the right way instead of going 1 on 5

no Khuang. every time Lamb forces horrible shots, every one on this board predicted he would get benched

My speculation is even simpler: KW doesn’t like Lamb who can pad better stats than him yet doesn’t do many intangibles.

Nop, according to reporter, JLin looked rather “sad,” angry, and non-smiling face, the reporter didn’t know what to do for few seconds after he was able to catch JLin. He was speechless when he caught an eye with JLin. After a while, he finally found a way to reach out to JLin and get the smile from JLin.

Jeremy Lin’s Brother talking about Jeremy playing with Rockets, Knicks and Hornets

https://youtu.be/O_dFp-eyK8k

Khuang, I haven’t seen lamb play it according to the script you wrote.

Wow really…. Then I guess we shall see some bible verses very soon…. Hope all is well for him.

I think perhaps Joseph doesn’t have the time to really sit down and watch Jeremy’s full game… He wouldn’t say the coach knows how to play Jeremy correctly if he has seen the games from the past 2 months or so…

the difference between lamb and Lin here is their approach regarding their PT..Lamb always go rouge and coast to coast to score more for himself rather than to follow a set play, and most of the time Lamb failed on that situation, hence cliff was force to bench him because on other player not named KW. Batum,LEE and MKG, errors and mistakes are magnified and thus make cliff pissed, so the natural tendencies is to bench or DNP the player. while JLIn take the subtle approach , that is to at least follow the norm and take his when theirs opportunity and when cliff’s head turned (so to speak)..Cliff can’t DNP JLIN (even he wants to) because on everygame, JLin played the right way and it helped the team win..he do try sometimes just like the denver game but his actions was seen and was looked upon as questionable and his decision was a head scratcher.

horrible offense and defense possession. on defense, kemba fell asleep ala harden but Lin helped out which left his own man wide open. of course, batum doesn’t bother covering for Lin either. on offense, kemba just stands there while everyone else tries to execute the play. Lin is forced to pass it to kemba who then makes a bad pass..
https://youtu.be/mpUPZ_ppAJI

@penny10654
ashcheekssssss:driving by the stadium n @JLin7 was outside,Held up at least 6 other cars to get pic n got honked at

https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/711742628979560448

I’m sure deep down he’s not happy not having the chance to help his team win. 13 more regular games to go 🙂

I agree Lamb probably disobeyed order by playing selfishly and got DNP-ed as a result. Kemba has the Harden treatment for now; it’ll be interesting what happens if he slows down or gets fatigued

https://twitter.com/AthIetesForGod/status/711784755231125505

wow…only 13 more…time flies!

I agree, lamb list his gambit. Lin is winning, randomly lol

was very encouraged by Lins performance this game. He showed signs he is growing in confidence. As soon as he nailed that 3 in the second half his game flourished, he looked more like his old self which we haven’t seen much of late. I hope he can build on this performance and improve offensively with each game.

My new article on Jeremy Lin shooting Struggles. It’s tough for Lin right now but I’m confident he will become a better player coming out this poor stretch.
http://bit.ly/1T40P7P

Game highlights…for those who missed the game…

Playoffs Defense…right here!…wow

Thanks for the kind words Maknusia :D.

Lamb was been playing dumb basketball lately and just trying to play by himself so being in the doghouse may help him realized that basketball is a team game and needs some defense to guard an opponent .

new Spurs Game Thread
http://www.jlinportal.com/g70-sas-cha-game-thread/

After a relaxing family time of watching movies with his cousins, JLin had a good shooting game (6-10) with 2-2 perfect 3pt shooting in the Nuggets game. It seems family time always helped Jeremy to relax and perform better on-court.

1. Jeremy spent time enjoying cooking for his family and friends. Will more family time help him to perform well against the mighty San Antonio Spurs?

2. Will Jeremy even get a chance to close if he performs well? It’s more likely that Clifford will continue to close with Lee and the rest of the starters since the Hornets have tried to close games consistently without him no matter how well his performance (i.e. JLin shot 61% in the Hawks/76ers/Nuggets without closing)

3. This trend has further increase the possibility that the Hornets have moved on from JLin as he might exercise his player option in the off-season and they have no plan to resign him. This might explain why JLin doesn’t close even if he performs well since they prepare to build team chemistry without his presence.

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s hope and pray JLin would continue to play well after some relaxing family time no matter if he finishes or not.
http://i0.wp.com/www.jlinportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lin_LINE_LetsGo.jpg?resize=131%2C126

let the countdown begin 🙂
playoff here we come!