G39 CHA @NOP Game Thread

It’s great to see JLin looking healthy in his 19pts/5reb bounce-back performance. He seemed to be in groove scoring 9pts out of his 19pts in the 4th quarter that earned the praise from ATL announcers, including Dominique Wilkins who was not known as a fan of JLin’s game before. But after discussing an anecdote how JLin wanted to meet Wilkins in the heights of Linsanity in 2012, it might make Niq’ warm up to see a hot-shooting JLin in the 4th quarter.

  • Will JLin continue his groove against a Pelicans team who just welcomed back its star, Anthony Davis, who had 24pts/10rebs in a win against the Kings? JLin might need to use more of his floaters against the Pelicans big men.
  • Hornets defense would also need to drive the offense as they performed in the impressive win against the Hawks. Zeller, Kemba and Batum would also need to play well in order for the Hornets to get a win on the road.

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s pray and hope that he gets closer to 100% health and maintains his shooting touch


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MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 40 vs MIL
  • Acbc

    First?

  • DX

    2nd, Lin 20P, 5A, 2B!

  • Yessir!
    Gonna be a good game today :]

  • BobbyH

    Timid 3rd

  • Acbc

    first time I got in first. Woohoo

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Linsanity for Tonight against New Orleans…I’m hoping for a 30 point game from Jeremy Lin, in the name of YAHWEH the creator of all things.

  • heart

    Congrats!

  • heart

    I think Brandon Simmons likes Lin’s game. His tweets have been very supportive of Lin.

  • Acbc

    Hairsanity all the way!

  • blubell

    I do like his tweets not only because he is supportive of Jeremy.. he is mostly unbiased.

  • Maknusia

    what good game?!!!! Lin should get 40 for Acbc!

  • Maknusia

    May your first translate to Lin’s first 40pt game!

  • blubell

    Then it will better than a good game. LINSANITY!!! Woooohooo 🙂

  • 1mtoldman

    this time for sure said the moose

    i said before i was not going to post here
    anymore but i didn’t keep that promise
    but uh now seems the time to.

    nothing to do with the site im just
    old

    as opposed to just feeling old,
    actually old

    now and can’t deny it
    and i dont really seem up to
    doing the things ive been doing….

    need to figure out what if anything else
    is left to do.

    will close with this little bit prompted
    by some words here:

    heart & hope

    someone said:
    these are good values here
    but no,

    these are the things
    the only things
    that separate us from
    the beast

    these are the things
    the only things

    that keep us truly
    alive.

    oh and one more thing.

    to paraphrase groucho marx
    who always later in life closed with the line:

    “can you get me hermione gingold’s
    phone number?”

    i shall say:

    “can you get me ‘our blubell’s’ phone number?

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY
  • heart

    You do have heart and hope, why say goodbye? We’ll be feeling blue w/o you here…ringing our bells…

  • Troy can provide better 3pt shooting (45% vs Lamb 31%) although he gave up some size.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    When will the all-star voting end?…If Jeremy can go on a huge streak and push up his PPG to 15, I think you would be able to make a case for him, specially because he’s doing it off the bench.

  • @1mtoldman:disqus, many of us appreciate your posting & musing here =]
    Don’t stop doing for feeling old
    you just have to find hope to feel young inside again

    I know since I keep telling myself once in a while again
    good things are worth pursuing and doing

    stop once in a while since we enjoy your musing :]
    drop me an email at jlinportal@gmail.com so we can chat

    Here’s some inspiring videos from JLin to give you that youth feeling inside
    Note: As for @disqus_3ojL2FVU9I:disqus phone number, you’re on your own lol

  • Acbc

    You have to hang on to that young man inside of you. I too have felt very old recently. I’ve been sick since Boxing Day with pneumonia. Then I suddenly had a gout attack on both feet so bad I couldn’t even walk. Even now, I need to walk around with a cane. I haven’t played a game of tennis since August and basically wasted my membership for the winter. It’s a pain getting old for sure.

    Having heart and hope is good but nothing can begin without faith. It must begin with faith…and I am not talking about spiritual faith. I’m talking about believing in a better tomorrow kind of faith. It is delusional and self deception, but without believing in that roses self delusion first, all else is empty dreams. Look at Stephen Hawkins! You obviously have a great mind and we enjoy you’re banter as well as your insights. That’s how we see you and NOT as one empty old man.

  • Acbc

    I’m going be so jealous if he gets Blebells phone number!

  • the quirky thing is only the young at heart can get blubell’s number 😀
    or the stalker type but that’s the bad type hehe..

  • blubell

    You’re wrong! Only Jeremy can get my number 😛
    I’m just waiting for him to ask…… still waiting… times ticking… LOL.

  • Acbc

    You just broke our hearts. Lol

  • blubell

    blubell may have broken many hearts but I’m sure BB8 can mend them 🙂

  • blubell

    All I can say is, if I was Carly Raw Jepsen, I would say/sing…
    “Hey, I just met you, And this is crazy, But here’s my number, So call me, maybe!”

  • DX

    First look was thinking Jeremy Lin.Second look confirmed.

  • heart

    Sometimes we’re feeling blue, but as long as the “heart” is still pumping, we still have “hope” even though our body might not cooperate. Hope to see hear from you again. As you can see, you break lots of hearts w/your poetic announcement…

  • KHuang

    It’s about time Lamb sat.

    The injury has been nagging him for a while.

  • KHuang

    Oh, GIT OVER HERE whenever you can.

    Talk Lin trash with the rest of us here!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin has better chance in assist with Troy than Lamb.

  • heart

    It seems like my “heart” is being called out lots today…Need “hope” to get going…It’s must be Linsanity day! lol.

  • heart

    We can hear your “bell” is ringing out the “blue” in all of us… Let there be joy and “hope” and Linsanity!

  • CJSHYY

    I thought they played well recently…

    https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/688053814339829760

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Reality, there are only a few pro-sport coaching jobs are safe, stupid “rumor”.

  • LAJane

    The purples and WARRIOR hair!

  • Spot

    Have you told Jeremy to hurry cause other people are asking your number? =)

  • Spot

    You just have to ask Jeremy to make a video in which he says: “dear blubell, please give 1mtoldman your number”.

    We know he’s reading! =D

  • Uh-Oh

    Bye bye!

  • JoeTeam

    we have to wait for BB8 in 2017 aw …

  • JoeTeam

    1m … Thank you for posting your poem. I hope you feel more upbeat sometime and come by. We are all passing on in stages, and being present while we can is a good thing if the community supports you.

    I sometimes marvel how an anon group like this can create community, and part of it is the moderation we have. Part of it is the consistent goodness in JLin.

    I’ve gone to other sites when bored, and not knowing the characters and having it unmoderated so character cannot come through is the difference.

    Hope to see you again. One way I’ve found to expand life again is to focus on the free sharing of kindness and compassion. Life gives us narrowing rules, and those 2 things create the infinite game that all kids know. We do get narrowed by being hurt, so focusing on the big inside calls others to give big back to us. Sorry, I don’t know your situation, it is just me coping too 🙂

    Happy day, and days to come!

  • Rick Johnson

    Haven’t seen any Lin in Chipotle pictures in a while.

    ABC7 Eyewitness NewsVerified account‏@ABC7
    All Chipotle stores to temporarily close on Feb. 8 for food safety training http://abc7.la/1n6ruUP

    https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/688081652912906240

  • Acbc

    I’d be happy if it doesn’t turn out to be a jinx, lol

  • pandaboy99

    Hornets really love to promote lin.. theres no way they dont offer him a nice contract his off season.

  • NONONO

    Have they done anything better after Lin left?

  • NONONO

    Somehow his Mohawk can stay entire game even he got hit many times. How?

  • wandertheglobe

    True, Troy needs Lin to create for him. Lamb can create his own. Troy is a better 3-pt shooter.

  • true, Lamb tries to do too much. Troy just shoots 3s

  • haha.. this I got to see
    How’d you try to get him to ask your #?

  • tom

    Chipotle is cheap but food is very average

  • tom

    As much as I hate to say this, but he’s the best shooter they got coming off the bench

  • tom

    Yah irritates me a lot

  • takemeback2reaganyears
  • Linzen

    hmmmm… isn’t your number 911-258-2355 (blu-bell)?

    :)))

  • tom

    Really hope Roberts doesnt play tonight
    Need Lin to play PG

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That kid in blue must be passing the balls to Kemba and Lin at the 3 pt line.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I don’t get that either, why didn’t Lin play PG when play with him?

  • if Lin plays PG 70% and Roberts 30%, it will be good to keep Pelicans off-balance

  • i think it’s because Lin can play both PG and SG, while Roberts can only play PG. So, it’s Lin that has to move to SG. I heard this some where. don’ tknow if it’s true.

  • Linzen

    Take care 1mtoldman!
    Thank you for all your posts! Personally, I cannot post here very often. But, I do value everybody’s input & insight!
    Although you may not post, I hope that you’ll be with us when we witness Jemery’s (slow) rise to NBA stardom. I still have very high hope with our boy! 🙂

  • tom

    should be 100-0 roberts is useless

  • LinMad

    umm that’s not a kid…

  • tom

    when hes in with kemba kemba plays point and roberts at 2

  • LinMad

    then they should just play Troy Daniels at SG and Lin at PG

  • DX

    No worry, even Roberts plays PG, Lin still get ball, so still can facilitate and attack.

  • donsmacau

    It’s essentially true that Roberts plays PG to JLIN’s SG — that exemplifies how screwed up a coach Clifford is.

    It’s as if you have Lionel Messi, the best forward in soccer today, playing the goalie position because all the other players are terrible at goalie.

  • he can be a good shooter but definitely not a PG

  • John Focker

    Take care man. And you can’t possibly be that old if you still care for asking phone numbers. 🙂

    Cheers.

  • donsmacau

    Team obviously is more effective when Kemba is not playing PG duties – but they will never completely take the PG role from Kemba’s hands.

    Batum came out in PG facilitation mode and was effective. Downside is NOT confident Batum can keep that up; PLUS this EUPHORIA from the Hornets organization that Batum convincingly showed he can be PG will impact their utilization of JLIN in the PG role.

    That means as long as JLIN is on the floor with either Batum or Kemba – the team can readily revert to “ignore a JLIN standing in the corner mode”

  • NONONO

    Hornets needs to win, needs a lot of wins to make the playoffs. They cannot get it if they are still thinking of promoting KW or Batum to All-Star. It looked like Clifford got it in last game. I hope they will make Lin 28+ mins and pg as minimum role until they make or break the playoffs.

  • NONONO

    No Roberts please. He is well below avg shooter and well above Kemba’s iso. NONONO

  • Solo

    Oh, no mohawk today !!

  • NONONO

    NONONO. NO MOHAWK, we will miss some fun.

  • tom

    not that far
    more like selling chicharito when you have no viable strikers

  • heart

    Hornets Pregame Cliff: With Lamb out “more Troy, some Roberts”

  • tom

    lol only “some” this man gets no love but preferably no roberts at all

  • heart

    They emphasize 3ptr is important to win against Pelicans tonight w/ Davis (blocker) back.

  • Solo

    Lol

  • Sophie Paris

    Boo

  • dave lam

    Hi all.
    Nice to see our hero JLin getting some more votes for the NBA all-star game.
    Go Hornet!

  • MoominFloren

    i miss Asik’s solid pick…

  • LinMad

    I hope starters don’t slack off defense today. They should play like last game.

  • golfhacker

    But I don’t miss his stone hands.

  • CaliUSMC

    I dont miss his butter fingers

  • JLin has some kind of wrap around his waist & back

  • NONONO

    it looks so depressed when you see so many empty seats

  • Epie

    Sigh.. Anthony Davis..and his eyebrows…

  • LinMad

    Good plays so far

  • orLinaryjoe

    Cody +1!

  • Good fastbreak Kemba-Zeller plus And-1
    14-14

  • cdblue10

    nice d marv

  • LinMad

    not bad, I like what I see. Maybe a little more effort on D.

  • Fevers End

    Every time you guys say Davis I keep thinking it’s Ed Davis.

  • heart

    Zeller is doing great so far!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He has already picked up 2 fouls.

  • Hornets 3P defense is still non-existent.
    Pelicans shot 4-6 (67%)

  • heart

    I know. Cliff still lets him stay in the game, so he has to be careful.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Once the defense of Hornets settle down, their offense starts clicking.
    They’re pretty determined in defense.
    Pelicans started the game well with great shooting and then cooled down.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Now most Pelicans offense is limited to 1 shot.

  • LinMad

    Kemba is the offense

  • LinMad

    Kemba is fireeeee

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Walker is hot with his 3 pointers. That is going to stretch the court.
    Lin in and stretches the court even more.

  • LinMad

    defense from bigs are breaking apart

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A timeout to cool down the Pelicans because they starts hitting shots again.

  • John Focker

    Kemba shooting the lights out means little when Hornets give up just as many points.

  • Alain Gervais

    kemba getting hot is a bad thing. he is just doing iso

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is why the timeout is called.

  • wandertheglobe

    Lin didn’t even touch the ball in almost 2 mins on the floor.

  • heart

    Hope KW shares the ball. He can’t win by himself. Get the bigs and Lin involved in the offense, please….

  • LinMad

    Frank and other bigs need to play better D. They are watching Kemba too much.

  • NONONO

    To celebrate the MLK holiday, I have a dream…….Jeremy Lin will be a starting PG very soon.

  • John Focker

    The timeout would also mean little if Hornets continue to focus on offense and less on D.

  • MoominFloren

    no one else except Williams touched the ball once or twice…

  • Alain Gervais

    33333333

  • I hope he still plays team-ball but many times he had tunnel-vision.

  • cdblue10

    333333333 dial in

  • CaliUSMC

    33333333333333333

  • Lin for 3333333333333!!!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Bingo Lin makes his 3 pointers.
    Pain for Pelicans.

  • LinMad

    333333333333 Lin’s 3 is so beautiful and high arcing

  • CaliUSMC

    hornets are shooting good.

  • oh yeah, Troy for 3..
    34-27 now

  • golfhacker

    He needs to keep that form.

  • cdblue10

    what is kaminsky doing

  • LinMad

    When team facilitates, we don’t really have good vision. When Lin does it, you’ll see the open man get the ball.

  • CaliUSMC

    he ignored lin lol

  • MoominFloren

    my leaugue pass is 2 min late

  • Guest

    Hornets are milking Walker, they will continue doing it as long as the score is close. Lin will get his chance when Walker’s shooting cools off.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The defense suddenly breaks down when the offense gets going.

  • tom

    damn Kaminsky is awful

  • try to restart .. sometimes it works

  • cdblue10

    he ignored lin,he doesn’t defend his man…it’s frustrating

  • Alain Gervais

    defense has to get better

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Why did Walker play so long?

  • NONONO

    63% 3pts? wow

  • wandertheglobe

    Kaminsky, the rook rarely passes the rock.

  • heart

    Have to re-watch the layup to see the ref #. Lin got fouled, no call.

  • Alain Gervais

    other team is 53 percent

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Troy Daniels needs to pick up on his D.

  • Alain Gervais

    maybe maybe not

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Pls

  • sws94

    That one wasn’t obvious.

  • CJSHYY
  • cdblue10

    or not?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Finally Kaminsky made a layup!

  • heart

    Cliff needs to get the bigs to contain Anderson. He’s having a field day…

  • John Focker

    Can’t be worse than PJ.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    2 TOs for Lin

  • DX

    I like Kaminsky, but he is so soft on O & D.

  • LinMad

    Hawes doesn’t even jump to contest that shot…Lin did

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The defense of the bench is shaky.

  • Alain Gervais

    offense is ugly defense is nowhere

  • John Focker

    Only one. Batum has two.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Another TO for Hornets.

  • John Focker

    Hawes and Kam both soft on either end, should NOT be on the court together.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Hawes and Kaminsky are so bad.

  • LinMad

    Cliff should have put Lin to guard someone better cause it’s needed.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Not sure about Kaminsky. He is really no good in defense.

  • DX

    Batum should just stop forcing pass.

  • Alain Gervais

    spacing is just off

  • CJSHYY

    I know …. these two are not good in D & O. smh!

  • MoominFloren

    we need MJ to give them speech every game

  • cdblue10

    because the bigs are looking for offense first instead of helping their guards

  • NONONO

    Lin needs to attack the rim.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    3/4 of players played among themselves and left JLin out of the game. Everyone is pg except JLin. Pretty bad.

  • LinMad

    i noticed that too on the offense end.

  • LinMad

    good Lin D

  • NONONO

    Lin 8 mins two shots? taking charges! pass ball too early

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. If they want Lin to be SG then passed him the ball. smh!

  • cdblue10

    that’s Lin’s fault he’s the PG he needs to take the ball

  • LinMad

    Lin used the big guy perfectly there.

  • cdblue10

    Fckin Kaminsky

  • Alain Gervais

    kimensky cant guard anderson.

  • LinMad

    Wow….Anderson is crazy

  • John Focker

    That’s what he gets for playing PG: ball stolen and basket.

  • DX

    The D isn’t good except Lin.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    He is really really really really bad. How many times did he leave him open.

  • John Focker

    Jeremy keeps creating open threes, Hawes and Daniels couldn’t convert.

  • fatbob

    nobody is guarding him…

  • aras

    Lin should attack the rim this game. he is easily burning his man

  • LinMad

    ya that was almost a 4 pt opp. He ran into Anderson.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Kaminsky too slow n not smart player

  • Alain Gervais

    he is just not fast enough. Anderson plays like a guard

  • cdblue10

    A big that’s always look for his offense but don’t defend is always a useless player

  • LinMad

    Frank should worry about defense only and not so much offense. 100% effort on D.

  • heart

    Hawes and Kam are getting on my nerves w/ low bb IQ. Hawes held on to the ball instead of giving it back to Lin to drive to the basket. I saw several times. He held on to the rock and didn’t know who to pass to. Kam just got ball ripped out of his hands.

  • heart

    Who’s going to contain Anderson??? Cliff needs to get the bigs to get tough….

  • John Focker

    At last some effort by Hawes, not pretty but finally converted.

  • LinMad

    phew, Hawes with the spinning move

  • golfhacker

    Painful to watch tho.

  • LinMad

    Psycho?

  • tom

    bummer 12:53

  • cshot

    hows jeremy doning?

  • Alain Gervais

    got a little cold but played good

  • LinMad

    defense losing it now

  • tom

    Not bad not great either thou
    missing too many shots

  • NONONO

    pelicans commentators are soooooo boring. it sounds like two guys talking over a dinner table

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The difference is Ryan Anderson keeps on hitting 3s.
    He has scored 18 points now.

  • sws94

    missed a lot of shots near the rim. ok otherwise.

  • LinMad

    good D, offense needs to get better 2nd half.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin not playing that well so far… hes too passive

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is the time that the bench missing Jeremy Lamb and his rebounds.

  • LinMad

    need to push him or something to get him a little ticked

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin has to play smarter not always harder..

  • sws94

    In what way is he passive?

  • LinMad

    what? He shot 6 times. That’s not passive.

  • Linsanity2.0

    hes deferring too much and passing up open 3’s for drives that are harder to convert

  • aras

    he has been ok he has just been missing shots.

  • Linsanity2.0

    he usually finishes halves

  • tom

    he took 6 shots
    just missed too mayny

  • Linsanity2.0

    just because he shot 6 times doesnt mean hes aggressive.. there were numerous occasions where he could have taken the open shot

  • Linsanity2.0

    Ryan Anderson is cookin.. man cannot be stopped

  • John Focker

    He did drive but the low post was crowded by Pelicans. Unlike Hornets, Pelicans hard on D.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Cliff has PJ out there tells me he’s a bad coach also

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Hornets simply cold on offense.

  • John Focker

    And without Jeremy their D’s lacking.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    He didn’t get the ball from what I’ve watched. They always played the other side when Batum touched the ball.

  • cdblue10

    he’s moving bs

  • Linsanity2.0

    lol seriously? Pelicans have one of the worst defenses in the league

  • tom

    No Lin well scrw clifford

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lol, Cliff? Wth you doing?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He sent 2 useless bigs back out

  • DX

    Who guarding Anderson?

  • LinMad

    why do we get so many 3 sec defense violations? I don’t remember getting that so much when Lin was on other teams. These bigs are not smart on defense. We get called for it at least 2-4 times a game and rarely do I see the opponent team getting it.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Kaminsky

  • Alain Gervais

    kaminsky let him get hot. its too late now.

  • kauaiblue

    Hows he doing?

  • Linsanity2.0

    Ryan Anderson 21 pts on 5/7 from 3 wow this man is cookin

  • tom

    Clifford is a very incompetent coach

  • Linsanity2.0

    not good

  • kauaiblue

    🙁

  • John Focker

    Hornets were down one when Lin left, now down eight.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Hornets need a Ryan Anderson he would easily start and be the best Big on this team

  • heart

    It seems that Refs calls are in favor of home team. However, as long as Hornets can make baskets and play defense, they will have a chance.

  • heart

    Why did Cliff take Lin out?

  • LinMad

    I think that’s what Hornets FO’s ideal big is.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Ryan Anderson has scored 21 points while Anthony Davis was in check for 7.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No they need LBJ, Duncant, Durant, curry, …

  • LinMad

    Maybe cause the other team was too tall so he wanted to bring in bigs. Cause I think he replaced Lin with PJ.

  • tom

    Yah Lin needs to get out of Charlotte
    Clifford is a rtard

  • Linsanity2.0

    good luck with that

  • Linsanity2.0

    lets get back to reality

  • DX

    Kaminsky is so soft on D & O.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    His head got f. Up.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Davis can get passive like Lin at times

  • Linsanity2.0

    because Lin being passive and not shooting well

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Ryan Anderson hit 5 out of 7 from downtown.

  • DX

    I have feeling. Today is big chance to lost, so rest Lin and move on for tomorrow’s game.

  • LinMad

    please google passive, i think u don’t know what it means. Lin has been aggressive, in fact he took the most shots before he went out. Him and Marvin.

  • aras

    dumbest thing i have read all day.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Pelicans has been incredibly shooting well.

  • tom

    Even PJ played more minutes than Lin
    what kind of bs is this?
    Hope Lin gets traded to a contender where its justified to play him like a bench player

  • Linsanity2.0

    please watch the game and not the box score

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Reality? If you asked nonsense why not go all the way?

  • LinMad

    please explain why u think he’s passive. There’s difference between being passive and missing shots.

  • John Focker

    Hornets bigs useless at creating spacing, easier for Pelicans bigs to defend the low post.

  • MoominFloren

    our bigs are so bad in defense….i want asik

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Pelicans bench has played really well.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Any big is better than Hornets bigs in a sense.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Useless 7 footers.

  • tom

    but clifford likes them

  • Linsanity2.0

    not really.. just Ryan Anderson he has 21 pts

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Both Holiday and Cole are decent players too.

  • LinMad

    ya our bigs are our weakest players. They are too demanding for the ball on offense but when it comes to defense, they can’t get rebounds or play defense well while getting an unusual amount of 3 sec defense violations per game.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Im watchin the game.. hes deferring too much to Batum and Kemba.. he passes up open 3’s for difficult drives and missed two point blank layups… that is called being passive

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I think Ewing would do a better job now than Hawes and Kaminsky

  • DX

    You mean yourself.

  • John Focker

    Going for difficult drives = passive?

    Wow.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Brandon Simmons ‏@BSimmons25 19m19 minutes ago
    Dam. Lin missing easy layups ?! #CHAatNOP

    see what i mean.. even he is surprised

  • LinMad

    im watching it too. What makes u think I’m not watching it?

    Are you just mad cause Lin passed the ball to Batum that one time cause Lin wanted to shoot? You don’t understand what happened that play. Since Lin was in front of Batum, he passed back to Batum so Lin can setup his shot/play. It’s to get the defense off of Lin while he looks for his shot. But Frank turned it over after Batum passed it to Frank and Frank was going to pass to Lin.

  • Linsanity2.0

    when you pass up open 3’s? of course it is why would you do that

  • Alain Gervais

    yea it happens. he will bounce back

  • CJSHYY

    So? He missed shots..?!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Look at how the game was played in first half. Unless something drastic happens in second half, not looking good as Cliff loves to play the “hopeless” bigs more.

  • Alain Gervais

    layups right at the rim

  • Linsanity2.0

    No.. its not just one play.. its almost every play watch the game without your bias sunglasses and youll see what im seeing

  • aras

    yes i am the dumbest thing i have read all day you got me.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    So? Like no other had missed brfore?

  • LinMad

    ur just trolling now.

  • tom

    Hes not a reliable 3p shooter so why not

  • heart

    So everyone else on Hornets. I think Lin was cautious of shot blockers around him and he rushed. He will bounce back.

  • LinMad

    You’re biased. Go back to Lakersnation.

    You don’t know what being passive is. I suggest you go back to English 101.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There aren’t many easy teams in NBA right now.

  • Linsanity2.0

    lets hope so

  • Linsanity2.0

    I have no doubt that Lin will bounce back, but like I said before he needs to play smarter and not always harder..

  • John Focker

    Lin shot 1-11 3PT in the last two games, you tell me.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    One of the reasons lin needs to go elsewhere because of Hawes and Kaminsky

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin is a great driver.. but sometimes he forces the issue too much when he should just pull up for the jumper.. trust in your jumper

  • LinMad

    you’re contradicting yourself.

    You say Lin is passive today, but here you’re saying Lin is playing too hard. I suggest English 101.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Get in rhythm before shooting the ball. It’s not simply shooting while you’re left open.

  • Linsanity2.0

    but if youre open you take that shot every time hes a career 36% 3pt shooter you have to trust in your jumper

  • John Focker

    More of an unsound logic than a linguistic issue.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    His D was fine, just missed open shots,

  • LinMad

    ok we get it. You have 100 complaints about Lin’s style. Even though you’re contradicting yourself with each complaint.

  • Linsanity2.0

    not his D.. im talking about his offense

  • NONONO

    Frank and Hawes have been miserable these days , weeks?

  • Alain Gervais

    the spacing needs to be better. He will finish at the rim. Lin made pretty good decision out there just didn’t finish.

  • aras

    i dont get what some people are seeing from lin so far in this game? he is not passive he shot the ball 6 times he just missed a couple of easy shots that he usually makes. he has been beating his man alll the time of the dribble and finding some players open at times. decent half for lin.

  • heart

    What do you mean harder? He’s a smart player. He tried to make basket by the rim when his shots weren’t falling. He needs time to heat up. Right now he’s feeling out the game, but Cliff just took him out so the defense suffered.

  • LinMad

    whatever it is, he needs more research before posting.

  • tom

    His jumper isnt reliable either
    His shots come and go

  • Linsanity2.0

    take a breather and stop getting upset over every Lin critique.. this is constructive criticism you have to stop being so bias all the time

  • Briiick

    Cliff had not learn a thing from MDA when he was an assistant, which is the modern small ball. He and his “system” are antiques.

  • 热情的lychee

    JLin still no.8

  • Linsanity2.0

    his jumper is not that bad.. he has to trust in it more

  • Alain Gervais

    is it trash on Lin day lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not much he could do with useless bigs and bad offense coaching

  • NONONO

    Lin needs to take shoots. Do not count on Frank and Hawes. Jordan’s team ball idea means you cannot just pass too much too.

  • tom

    hes 36% because some games he hits a lot and othertimes he misses most of them
    hes still a streaky shooter and he has been missing a lot of open 3’s lately like A LOT

  • Linsanity2.0

    why is it always the bigs or the coaches fault? why is it never Lin’s own doing?

  • tom

    no just justifying Lins desire to drive

  • LinMad

    How many open 3s did he pass? If it’s just 1, you’re out of your mind!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s fact, that’s why

  • Alain Gervais

    His shot is above average i think.His driving speed is one of a kind. So of course he drives

  • tom

    but very streaky and hes been missing a lot of open looks lately

  • LinMad

    take your own advice. Take a breather cause you’re complaining about everything about Lin today. Smarter, harder, passive, trust, blah blah blah.

  • cdblue10

    they double team kemba because they know that he seldomly pass the ball

  • MoominFloren

    i will take javale mcgee over these bigs….at least it’s more entertaining

  • NONONO

    KW 20 mins already, Cliff forgot how they won last game!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    PJ needs to sit, Batum moves to sf, lin starts.

  • cdblue10

    here you go

  • LinMad

    i know u want to help Lin but i’m positive Lin knows more about basketball than you or any of us.

  • John Focker

    Hornets shot 1-2 FTs as a team, Pelicans 4-5. On track for least FTA record?

  • kauaiblue

    This is totally rigged… derozan has more votes than JLin?

  • LinMad

    when was the last update?

  • MoominFloren

    we’ve said that since october…..

  • kauaiblue

    How many pts does he have?

  • LinMad

    and just because you say he’s passive, doesn’t mean Lin is passive.

  • Alain Gervais

    marvin foul trouble. Kaminsky defense is a problem

  • Briiick

    You are talking sense to a “player’s coach”.

  • heart

    Ready said KW’s offense suffered bc he has to play defense against T. Evans who’s a bigger PG… Then why doesn’t Cliff let Lin play PG against T.Evans?

  • LinMad

    Batum doing work!

  • LinMad

    i’ve seen that all season where I think Lin should be guarding someone harder instead of Kemba.

  • tom

    Team phasing away from Lin again?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Bull politic

  • heart

    Yep…

  • kauaiblue

    hes not a good coach…

  • cdblue10

    The only way that i’m going to enjoy basketball again is when Lin play being the PG and a starter on a team

  • kauaiblue

    walker playing revolving door defense again?

  • LinMad

    I seriously think something is wrong with the ASG rankings. Lin is more popular than Derozan for sure but has less votes than him.

  • NONONO

    last AGS push for KW and Batum?

  • MoominFloren

    he played defense? i thought only lin & williams play defense in this team

  • Unfortunately, the Hornets sticks to the plan for JLin to power the 2nd unit.

    They really want to invest on Kemba/Batum as 2 playmakers.
    It’s the biz.

    Lin should know by now there is no long-term position as a starter here

  • GoJLin!

    Lin steal from Evans

  • LinMad

    good defense/steal by Lin!

  • kauaiblue

    Jlin just in for defense… sigh

  • Nice steal by JLin, Evans had to foul him

  • kauaiblue

    anyone else think this game is boring?

  • cdblue10

    I am

  • kauaiblue

    JLin makes it exciting… and yet, he just stands in the corner…

  • GoJLin!

    See, after JLIN come in, CHA catch up now!

  • Briiick

    Cliff and Hornets can’t wait to show their true color after only one win at the end of a losing streak.

  • Kemba and Batum got the hot hands now so he’s waiting for his chance.
    Let’s hope he’s ready with his 3pt shooting

  • cdblue10

    he’s not even an option on offense on this team

  • LinMad

    that was a miss call on Zeller

  • LinMad

    phantom foul by Lin

  • Promo Sports World

    Jeremy in for D…touch foul

  • Lin got a chance to playmake and tried the the pull-up 3.
    Miss but good try

  • Promo Sports World

    Tough shot

  • Alain Gervais

    they gave him the three

  • tom

    Shouldnt have taken that

  • MoominFloren

    will lin get 10pts this game? he’s just standing in the corner..

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Good look but

  • heart

    yep.

  • LinMad

    WTH….foul on Kemba? He was pushed

  • tom

    Lin needs to work on his shooting
    Missing way too many shots lately

  • tom

    Needs to make more shots

  • NONONO

    Lin hesitates

  • cshot

    lol this is stupid. lin gets to stand in corner and not be involved in the offense

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He missed shots.

  • aras

    Lin has been missing wide open shots these past games…hope that does not continue

  • tom

    He needs to make more shots

  • It’s always tough for JLin not to dribble and be playmaker since it affects his shooting rhythm.

    I hope he gets closer shots to get some rhythm going

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I’m used to that. That’s why I don’t care if he missed shots

  • LinMad

    ya he needs to ditch the 3 for now

  • NONONO

    KW is going to shot Hornets out of the game again

  • NONONO

    KW+LIN+BATUM does not work.

  • Yeah, Lin with 222!
    Closer shot! Smart Lin

  • LinMad

    beautiful shot

  • sport

    One game where Lin got to be PG then next game back to iso ball and corner? Exactly why I only watch highlights. Lin needs to be the ball handler for him to player well.

  • LinMad

    Batum still got it!

  • This is unusual. All Kemba/Batum/Lin at the end of 3rd quarter

    Usually Kemba rests

  • cdblue10

    he needs to penetrate more

  • sport

    Not unless Lin gets to be PG! Walker or Batum as PG = iso ball!

  • NONONO

    4 guards?

  • LinMad

    Ok Batum needs to sit.

  • heart

    After one good basket, Batum made two dumb moves: one TO and one foul for 2 pts.

  • cdblue10

    wow

  • sport

    Maybe coach trying to see if all 3 main players can start together? Except Lin needs to be PG for that to work!

  • Alain Gervais

    What a ridiculous shot

  • cshot

    tough d by lin. just a ridiculous shot by anderson

  • LinMad

    omg, that’s going on NBA and he scored it on Lin.

  • heart

    Have to watch Anderson feet, are they inbound?

  • aras

    LOOOOOL HE HIT THAT…..one of those days

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How bad is the Hornets defense? Only lin was there and not even his man.

  • tom

    Damn Lin did all he could to defend Anderson but he still made it
    happens no worries

  • NONONO

    it is very bad idea to play 3 guards and two of them are just too short

  • Alain Gervais

    You mean ESPN. Its ok its not like getting dunked on

  • Linsanity2.0

    RYAN ANDERSON IS COOKING

  • Linsanity2.0

    somebody call the ambulance because Ryan Anderson is on FIREEEE

  • That’s tough 3 by Anderson.
    Lin did all he can to challenge it but he’s hot now (6-8 3pt shooting!)

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin w as everywhere defends everyone

  • pretty bad indeed

  • MoominFloren

    but he needs to get the ball first

  • NONONO

    Charlotte Hornets ‏@hornets 1m1 minute ago
    END 3RD Q – Pelicans 84, Hornets 81

    @nicolas88batum 21pts
    @KembaWalker 18pts BUT YOU ARE LOSING!!!

  • GoJLin!

    Yes, 7 pts within one minute!

  • Lin found Frank under the basket. 1st assist!

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin needs to make that open 3..

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin takes way to much threes

  • Briiick

    Cliff uses him as a 3&D.

  • JoeTeam

    that double t d on JLin is pretty good by NOP. Pinned him 2x on the elbow.

  • LinMad

    is this a 3 point only unit? everyone in is small

  • NONONO

    very very wrong lineup

  • NONONO

    KW plays 44mins?

  • cshot

    oh no hes limping

  • Alain Gervais

    our defense is horrendus

  • Alain Gervais

    yea i saw that

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin hurt

  • Oh no.. Lin is injured :[

  • aras

    Aaaaaand lin is hurt….great

  • LinMad

    Lin hurt

  • NONONO

    Horrible lineup. Cliff is insane!

  • LinMad

    meanwhile, Cliff just yelled at Lin cause he couldn’t out rebound someone who was taller than him

  • travis

    Jeremy constantly doing dirty work as a 6’3 pg resulting in injuries

  • What happened? He was holding his elbow

  • LAJane

    Well…you are talking to the guy who says Lin is too passive and should play “smarter not harder’, so….

  • Epie

    Hornets games are too painful too watch as a Lin fan. Maybe back to watching only highlights.

  • sws94

    No he doesn’t. He uses Lin as another facilitator on the floor and PnR guy that gets in the paint. He’s said that. If Lin takes 3, he chooses to.

  • LinMad

    i think it was his leg.

  • yes. he was battling inside with big bodies :[

  • Hoping and praying Lin is okay :[

  • travis

    No he’s been battling inside with big bodies

  • sport

    Don’t waste your time just watching highlights is enough especially when Lin isn’t starting.

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin comin back in

  • Alain Gervais

    daniel cant guard holliday

  • Briiick

    Cliff uses Lin as the D&3 PG to please the chosen players.

  • David Ly

    I’m glad it wasn’t the ankle.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin sit, Holliday out of control

  • Linsanity2.0

    it was the ankle right one

  • David Ly

    crap it was

  • LinMad

    defense going to take a hit now

  • Ouch, he turned his right ankle ..
    He tried to walk it off

  • JoeTeam

    Kemba boo twisted JLin, he’s back good.

  • travis

    Tbh lin needs to leave Charlotte asap they just don’t use him right

  • LAJane

    yes, so let go of the rope 🙂

  • tom

    thank god hes back

  • LinMad

    He looks like he’s coming back in

  • this guy is super TOUGH

  • JoeTeam

    big frank kept it form lin on that one, good for him he got aan and1

  • sport

    It’s a one year rental. Lin will finish the year with Hornets and then reunite with MDA! He needs to be careful and stay healthy!

  • Great ball movement Batum-Lin-Marvin-Kemba for open 3
    91-95

  • Alain Gervais

    hornets look night and day without lin

  • CaliUSMC

    1pt game wooo

  • Tough turnaround hook by Frank
    93-95

  • Hornets on 7-0 run

  • Frank 3, yess 96-95

  • CaliUSMC

    kaminsky on fire., hahahha

  • LinMad

    lol only when Kemba flies from a foul, he gets a call

  • sport

    Kaminsky exploding in 4th quarter saving the team!

  • Linsanity2.0

    FRANK THE TANK! kids going to be good

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Kaminsky wakeup

  • David Ly

    Has it been the right ankle or left ankle?

  • fatbob

    we couldve used lamb tonight

  • devin23

    Thats why he should rest if he’s injured. Playing through injuries will aggrevate it.

  • right

  • LAJane

    That ankle has really been taking a beating. Wish he could give it more time.

  • CaliUSMC

    damn.. In and out miss 3 for lin.. so close

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    In n out

  • Lin long 3 from downtown almost made it.
    Hornets kept the ball possession

  • Alain Gervais

    having Lin sit at the three and shoot three is not his game. He can do it but sparingly

  • Linsanity2.0

    Lin youve been missin 3 pointers all night and decide to take a 30 footer? lol

  • kauaiblue

    cant make an outside shot

  • LinMad

    Franks D..

  • David Ly

    no time on shot clock.

  • yes, he had to shoot

  • cshot

    shot clock

  • LinMad

    why did Lin shoot so far? was the timer running down?

  • Linsanity2.0

    there was 6 seconds left

  • fatbob

    no choice, 2 secs left on the clock

  • sws94

    Lin shouldn’t take 3s. Drive it in and take closer 2s.

  • CaliUSMC

    I dont know there was 3 secs left, he could have gotten closer lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Fearless warrior not a moron lIke you

  • David Ly

    Looked like 3 seconds to me.

  • devin23

    When’s the offseason so Lin can join MDA again? Lin will never be primary playmaker in this team.

  • 2 ft behind 3pt line .. due to shot clock running out
    Almost made it, though

  • LinMad

    ok nvm, 3 secs isn’t much when ur that far. I wasn’t looking at time.

  • heart

    He Had to take it. Time was expiring. He was the only outlet for them to pass. Besides, the paint is packed, can’t drive.

  • LinMad

    agree but he only had 3 secs to do something from that far away.

  • Linsanity2.0

    3 seconds is more than enough time to dribble one or two steps in and pull up

  • 808JL7

    Probably saving his ankle to play D.

  • sws94

    OK, that one was sort of in and out. But his 3 point shot isn’t there tonight.

  • Alain Gervais

    pelicans defending Lin good

  • Lin’s not playing 100% now but Clifford still plays him.
    He still makes the offense flowing and provide tough D

    Gotta give credit to Clifford

  • fatbob

    why, so he can shoot 20% fg on the 76ers?

  • Promo Sports World

    Lots of credit

  • LinMad

    but it’s less focused shot and his defender is tall. Better to shoot far.

  • NONONO

    Kemba/Frank/Batum completely ignored Lin.

  • and lots of faith in Lin

  • Promo Sports World

    We know other coaches would sit him

  • Promo Sports World

    Exactly man….folks don’t want to see that

  • CaliUSMC

    Good D by LIN!

  • LOL .. Gordon tried to get passed Lin and TO

  • Announcer: “Lin is gutting it out. Tremendous defense on Eric Gordon”

  • LinMad

    good defense

  • CaliUSMC

    Batum loves jacking up shots for no reason

  • Alain Gervais

    datum with those ridiculous threes

  • Holiday shot over Kemba 🙁
    102-105 now

  • David Ly

    Kemba is getting exposed as a mismatch down the stretch today.

  • Promo Sports World

    Kemba is exhausted

  • heart

    In crunch time, he makes some very crucial mistakes. He should have drove to the basket.

  • Promo Sports World

    Too many minutes for Kemba

  • David Ly

    That’s very rare to hear that.

  • wandertheglobe

    Both Evans and Holiday abusing the smaller Kemba, scoring at will.

  • sws94

    True. He’s hurt again 🙁

  • yeah, 40 min.. bad time-management by Clifford
    He shouldn’t have played at end of Q3

  • Alain Gervais

    kemba played good

  • NONONO

    Sorry, Walker, it does not work

  • gandychan

    I just knew batum would take that 3 and miss. He’s done that like 10 times this season and missed them all late in the game. Does he not learn from the past? Smh

  • LinMad

    why do we always let bad teams beat us like this?

  • CaliUSMC

    agreed

  • sws94

    Really can’t complain about Batum. He’s made a bunch of big, tough shots over Davis. He’s feeling it and I think it’s correct he’s shooting. Kemba is not playing great and Lin is hurt, so he’s trying to do it with his scoring and he’s been scoring well in the 2nd half.

  • fatbob

    what is KILLING the hornets is the 2nd chance shots by the pelicans…8 offensive rebounds for pelicans only 3 for hornets

  • Promo Sports World

    Hurts his D….40 is too many

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes kemba

  • Good drive by Kemba 104-105
    Somehow he got it in

    Need a stop now with 45 seconds left

  • Promo Sports World

    Big shot he is dog tired

  • heart

    Yep. He should have drove to the basket! Made so many crucial mistakes in crunch time.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin only decoys now, his ankle not allowing him to drive

  • I hope Hornets can steal this game

    Need 1 stop

  • David Ly

    Kemba made up for his defensive disadvantage there.

  • fatbob

    GOOD…my god cliff is the worst coach ever…where is pyscho T, why was zeller sitting so long?

  • sws94

    He can score. And he’s shooting the ball pretty much well this entire season.

  • yeah, he’s giving his all now
    Let’s hope for a miracle shot

  • Guest

    Hornets have only won 4 road games. They do not know how to win on the road.

  • fatbob

    where was the foul on Anthony davis?? WTF REFS!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin limping heavy

  • Alain Gervais

    Kemba thank you

  • Wow.. huge 3 by Kemba
    107-107!!

  • heart

    Good job Kemba!

  • Briiick

    or, Cliff has no control of his players who save at one end to pad on the other end.

  • Promo Sports World

    Asg votes boom

  • gutsy shot for sure

  • tom

    Way too touch

  • tom

    Lin 3 more!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin did reinsure his legs i saw major limping when he tried to run up the court

  • 1 stop.

    we know ADavis will get this shot

  • sws94

    That’s why I say Kemba is clutch. There are big holes in his game, but he makes clutch shots.

  • kauaiblue

    Why is he playing injured?

  • LinMad

    time for defense

  • Epie

    LOL

  • Alain Gervais

    What was that?

  • CaliUSMC

    ouch

  • Alley-oop & Davis dunk :{

  • cshot

    stupid d

  • CaliUSMC

    🙁 *

  • Zeller shouldn’t have left Davis

  • Alain Gervais

    Thats on cliff

  • CaliUSMC

    lin with game winner?

  • cdblue10

    shoot it Lin

  • Maknusia

    Go Kemba!!!!

  • sport

    Bad defense drawn up by Cliff, JLin defend Anthony Davis ? Is he crazy?!

  • Kemba should get the ball for a 2 here

    2 seconds left

  • cdblue10

    Lin for a 3

  • CJSHYY

    He will get the ball.

  • LinMad

    Lin hasn’t shot in awhile, why would he now

  • CJSHYY

    They will not let him take the shot.

  • CaliUSMC

    wtf clock keeper is retarded

  • and Lin shouldn’t .. Kemba just had a 3, he should take it

  • LinMad

    what happened?

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • Wow… Lin got fouled!!! 2FTs

  • CaliUSMC

    NO FT’S BOO

  • oh wow..

  • cdblue10

    that’s foul before in bound

  • CaliUSMC

    lame.. gg

  • Alain Gervais

    datum takes the dumbest shot I’ve ever seen

  • Batum turn-around 3?
    That’s NOT a good shot *Argh*

  • Epie

    Lin.. Please leave this team.. I beg you

  • cshot

    lol thats 2 free throws stolen by the nba

  • kauaiblue

    This team (absent JLin and maybe a couple others) and coach do not deserve to win…

  • Linsanity2.0

    whatt that was clearly a shooting foul on LIN

  • sport

    Walker and Batum with high scores and so what? No win!

  • LinMad

    late whistle…

  • Linsanity2.0

    In fact Jrue Holiday was huggin Lin before the ball got in… terrible call by refs

  • travis

    Ride or die by batum and kemba you lose against non playoff teams, play team basketball you blowout good teams

  • Alain Gervais

    That type of defensive break down late. We are not a playoff team

  • sport

    They should’ve reviewed that! Cliff could ask for a review right?! That foul was before inbound!

  • guest

    Frank should not have inbounded.

  • yup, it should be continuation

  • travis

    He got fouled before he touched the ball

  • Alain Gervais

    Datum posting at the three. I mean who even think thats a good idea. right near anthony davis.

  • DX

    Lin should shoot FT on the last foul.

  • guest

    1.2.-1.9 seconds, need a quick smart pass.

  • Briiick

    I am not surprise at all that Hornets keep losing games to weak teams on the road, because Cliff is letting a few players to save energy at one end in order to get better stats.

  • David Kim

    In late 4th Qt, its all about Batum and Kemba…

  • occupatio

    sketcy officiating. how can the ball be inbounded before fouling if lin didnt even make it to his hands?

  • heart

    Didn’t I say Refs favored Pelicans tonight… I called it earlier. They saw Lin was held back but waited to blow the whistle.

  • guest

    Jeremy could have lobbed it to Frank or Batum.

  • sport

    Mean while Lin doesn’t get to play PG and has to do the dirty work! Can’t wait until this season is over so Lin can reunite with MDA!

  • DX

    Lin should leave this team ASAP.

  • guest

    Horrible inbound play. Frank the tallest guy should have been on the floor to take away another tall defender.

  • David Ly

    With the ankle inkury, is Lin going to be okay for the next game in 20 hours?

  • kauaiblue

    that was bs!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Didn’t watch the game after first half until the last min. Surprised to see there wasn’t a bigger loss:-)

  • CJSHYY

    I hope he will not play. But if Lamb can’t play Cliff will ask Lin to play… smh!

  • sport

    Lin’s not going anywhere he’ll finish this season with Hornets and then go where where MDA’s hired.

  • kauaiblue

    agreed… this team sux…

  • didi ong

    Is lin injured? It seemed like he didnt drive much and just took 3s

  • guest

    Last 2 minute NBA referee foul reviews will be interesting.

  • Briiick

    Cliff even made it clear earlier in the season that PJ was for Batum to save energy in defense.

  • kauaiblue

    he should not be playing so hard for this ungrateful team…

  • Alain Gervais

    yea i saw limping again

  • Lin is doing the best that he can now .. but he definitely needs the ball in his hands most time
    Let’s hope he stays healthy

  • heart

    Yep. He turned his right ankle on KW foot.

  • kauaiblue

    I don’t know why he plays so hard and when he is injured. He sacrifices for this selfish team… makes me so angry…

  • sport

    So true he has to watch out on defense, don’t want any serious injuries! But Lin hates losing even on defense that’s a true All-Star mindset! Those who don’t play 2 way are fake stars that won’t bring their team a Championship!

  • LAJane

    Well, so much for MJ’s team-ball pep talk. Guys couldn’t hold onto it, and I don’t know how coach’s mind works…

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin has the same injury. It just keep coming back. If he was healthy that would’ve been a 3 point play

  • guest

    Jeremy with ankle injury and the best passer should have inbounded.

  • occupatio

    I don’t see how the ball can be considered by the refs to be already inbounded before the foul occurred. Lin did not even touch the ball, so the clock could not by rights start ticking. Since the clock doesn’t tick at all, the ball can’t be considered inbounded already. Sketchy officiating.

  • LinMad

    another terrible call by refs on Lin

  • DX

    If Lin decide to leave, maybe can be traded to another team, better a playoff team.

  • kauaiblue

    this is clifford were talking about…

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The difference is between Troy Daniels and Jeremy Lamb. Lamb is a better defender. TD’s +/- is -16; the worst of the team.
    You need 9 deep to be competitive in this league. When Lamb comes back, Hornets will be OK.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Please observe the rule of this website. NO cussing!!!!

  • NONONO

    No excuse. 1, Lin should have not hesitated to take some shots early, passes too early and too much. 2. Clifford made a huge mistake to put Kemba, Lin and Daniel, Batum in the same time. it made no defense and made Kemba no reset in almost entire second half and might caused Lin reinjured again.

  • heart

    Lin was hurting in crunch time and still played hard. He didn’t move much, but did get some crucial stops. Lin was robbed by refs on several non-foul calls.

  • LAJane

    Should really give that ankle a rest now. Wonder if he’s getting pressure since they need his D so much.

  • Barry Allen

    Well ankle sprains are tricky, they have ups and downs. you can still play but if you don’t get off it, you’re likely to not be at 100% for a while.

  • kauaiblue

    the batum and walker show… one of the main difference bt their show and the jeremy lin show back in nyc was knicks won!

  • adele

    It’s painful to watch Lin in the corner all the time. Despite the minutes, he is doing all the dirty work. Like a waiter serving all the guests of honor. They will only pass the ball to him when its 2-3 seconds left. Not a good place for him. This team is not good for him and the coach.

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah you can see Batum looking specfically for Walker and looking off Lin at times.

  • LinMad

    Cliff needs to use Lin as PG. Not 3&D

  • kauaiblue

    I know… even lamb and zeller were bringing the ball up… just give him the ball, and you will win…

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah, Linsanity happened when Lin was a PG, not a SG. There is a reason for that. He can control the tempo and get the whole team involved. He’s also clutch.

    Lin is a decent SG, but you’re wasting his talents.

  • occupatio

    its pointless to say that. you know that cliff wants offense to go through batum and kemba first.

  • guest

    A lot of NBA games are won in the last 2 minutes. It comes down to the 2 minute drill for Basketball, like the 2 minute drill for Football. Comes down to execution. It seems that Charlotte loses a lot of close games and can only win by blow outs.

  • kauaiblue

    I despised rox, disliked lakers, knicks eh, hornets indifferent…

  • LinMad

    Problem we have is that coach is playing his new players off their natural role like Batum and Lin. Our bigs can’t do much either besides shoot.

  • John Focker

    Regression after only one good win. Let’s see how many L’s this time.

  • occupatio

    nah,most games are decided before the last 2 minutes. if you are mostly winning games by pulling it out in the last 2 min, then the team is not good at all.

  • Barry Allen

    Hornets I don’t really blame them much. It’s just sad that they don’t know how to use Lin well. Kemba was already there in a contract when Lin arrived. Lin knew the situation going in, whereas Rox they tried to manufacture a star and Lakers just had an old Chucker and a loser coach in the fold.

  • LinMad

    in the end it’s always defense that wins games. We let them score over 100. And that dunk at the end by Davis cause Zeller left his man.

  • David Kim

    At The Hive
    At The Hive – ‏@At_The_Hive

    I really don’t see how that wasn’t 2 FT’s for Lin. It was a catch and shoot. He was essentially prevented from shooting by the foul.

    Sam Patching
    Sam Patching – ‏@samlikesports

    @At_The_Hive Pels fan here, and 100% agree/didn’t understand the call. Unlucky break for Charlotte.

  • Barry Allen

    Hard to defend against Davis imo. I think he can get his shot anytime if a play is run for him because of his size and agility. He’s essentially playing on a nerf hoop.

  • I can see that Lin could’ve tied the game with 2 FTs there.
    Too bad refs gave the home-calls

    The game is lost because they can’t stop ADavis & let them shoot 44% (12-27)

    They really need some reliable big men

  • occupatio

    if there is any improvement in the officiating on lin, it is simply that perhaps the league avoids the kind of embarrassing no-calls like him bleeding in the clippers game.

    but, as we can see, there are so many ways the refs can mess with lin that does NOT show up as some embarrassing short video clip that can go viral.

  • LinMad

    but Zeller should have known not to leave him alone.

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah that happens in home court. It was a bad call.

  • LinMad

    does anyone know if these were the same refs that officiated that other game where Lin got bloodied?

  • travis

    Agree Daniels has a nonexistent presence on d

  • travis

    If lin sat out 5-10 games I think it would benefit his usage and minutes when he comes back

  • LinMad

    need to post today’s play too where Lin was being grabbed and doesn’t get the foul shots.

  • tom

    Lin just didnt have it tonight its okay next game
    Hope hes not hurt

  • heart

    When the bigs don’t play their role properly, instead of playing pg, the team offense gets chaotic. They have no focal point and don’t know who to pass. Case in point–Hawes got confused several times holding onto the rock too long. So time is wasting on the possession, then both offense and defense often get stagnant.

  • LinMad

    cause coach will see how bad the defense is without him?

  • travis

    Defense and offense imo

  • LinMad

    i said it many times before, Cliff needs to make Lin known as the PG when he’s on court by himself. Even with Batum, he should be PG. Only when Kemba is on court, Lin can alternate with Kemba.

  • travis

    Jeremy is essentially a 3 and d small forward on this team

  • travis

    And why Jeremy wasn’t guarding Holliday on the last play didn’t make sense as he easily got himself room to throw lob to davis

  • heart

    Yep. That’s why Hawes and other bigs were confused as whom to pass to KW or NB on several plays.

  • travis

    Hawes and frank tunnel vision is a killer too

  • Briiick

    Let’s vote for Lin ! I don’t care about studs who save their energy on defense to pad their stats and lose.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • fatbob

    yeah NOT going to happen, hornets can’t afford to sit lin out too long. He is the only player who plays reasonable D on this team in most games. Hornets are barely hanging on to a hope of sneaking into the 8th spot for playoffs. In this kind of situation, there is no way that the coach has the luxury of resting lin for long, unless he has a season ending injury.

  • cdblue10

    Lin is not a catch and shoot player,he is a rhythm player.If you take away the ball from his hand he will look just an ordinary player.this team won’t make the playoff unless Cliff will change his mentality about Lin.Batum and Walker are playing great basketball and I won’t take that away from them but if they alienate Lin for a 3& D role then might as well tank the season.

  • blubell
  • heart

    What is he talking about? himself?

  • CJSHYY

    What? Why he said so…?!

  • blubell
  • fatbob

    i agree, he was part of the reason for the loss. Should have played zeller more, should have rotated in hansborough…even the announcers were surprised why psycho T didn’t get any time.

  • blubell
  • heart

    Me too. Psycho should have been in this game to guard Davis or Anderson when he got hot from the 3. That was a no-brainer. Cliff allowed Anderson to go off and had to play catch up. He didn’t disrupt Pelicans’ offense in the first half. So of course, their confidence in their offense continues until the end.

  • golfhacker

    Hornets will be a bottom-10 team next year when Lin and Batum leave.

  • Whitman Lam

    Lin was limping pretty badly towards the end of the game.

  • Whitman Lam

    Last 2 minutes were, Kemba ISO drive on Davis, Batum ISO 3 pointer against Davis, Batum a well contested 3 pointer against 2 defenders. Game over.

  • heart

    If Lin plays tomorrow, Hornets might request him to put on his mohawk. They desperately need a win, lol.

  • Whitman Lam

    It’s FT’s if the ball had not been inbounded yet when the foul occured.

  • Briiick

    Better rest his ankle. They can’t win if Lin is not put on the driver’s seat and the drivers don’t defend.

  • heart

    Yep. Please let it heal completely before playing again.

  • Briiick

    if Cliff wants their defense to be consistent, he needs to reward those
    who defend the best. Instead he has been doing the opposite and thus gradually
    losing control of his team.

  • BobbyH

    One away game, one short act in previous game and all the talks about defense and team-ball are in the past.

    They seemed trying, but not enough, determined, or consistent as Lin did on the court. We all saw it.

    And coaching, SMH. It is the same offense scheme again and again for the past 30+ games with no in-game adjustment, Waler/Batum dribbled and screened and pass and get the ball back and shoot and hope the ball went in. Yes, they got 25 points each. Yes, they got their rhythm, but where were the defense? They lost points more than they scored.

    Tow obvious plays in less than 75 seconds when game was tied: Holiday post up against smaller Walker and scored. The last winning shot by Davis Alley Oop was assist from Holiday where Zeller had to cover the lost man by Walker.

    This team’s weakest link is Walker. And because Walkers has to play PG and save energy for offense, it sacrifices the size match up in defense and other 4 players had to make up with size and energy on the defense end, hence leaving a big raft when opposing guards attacking Walker. It is a flawed line-up if this is meant for playoff design. To me, this team will not go anywhere as long as Walker being the PG, handling the ball and occasionally iso and smile even the game lost.

    Who is to blame? No one. They all got comfy having long term prospects. Coaches, and so called star players, they are all set and fine and good even if the game is lost. Not urgency, no energy, no self-reflect of how to win the games after loss. just same old way to play the old ways. Is this an NBA team?

  • heart

    How did Lin ended up guarding a 7′ tall Davis? Lin was the only one saw that coming so he had to defend Davis. No one came to help him bc they didn’t see it coming like Lin. That is also on coaching. Defensive coach should know this to relay to the players…

  • CJSHYY

    I am starting to doubt about how good Cliff’s D plan for this team? They are just not good at all.

  • KHuang

    Charlotte with Kemba Walker playing selfish iso defenseless loserball ALWAYS plays 4 on 5 defensively.

    Lin’s the only Hornet that actually sacrifices himself for Walker’s sake, and that’s not necessarily smart basketball by Lin.

  • KHuang

    One game of QUALITY basketball.

    Batum and Walker got pissed off afterwards.

    It was good while it lasted.

  • KHuang

    If Clifford wants better defense, he needs to make Walker and Batum run the offense because NBA opponents will rest on defense when Charlotte’s other players are deliberately frozen out.

  • KHuang

    Charlotte’s playing such loser iso Kemba Batum selfishball, even the refs protecting Charlotte wouldn’t save the Hornets from losing to anybody.

  • heart

    I had my doubts on his professed D expertise long ago. These end games losses have happened so many times bc lack of D. Players under his watch don’t know how or who to defend, especially in crunch time. Lin seems to be the only one know where he must be at all times, and he has to cover for others deficient/ inefficient D also.

  • KHuang

    Before this season, Clifford indiscriminately trapped the ball with 2 players no matter the situation.

    But then opponents figured that out and picked the Hornets apart.

  • Acbc

    Cho and Clifford are just hopeless. One game after a team win and it’s back to the same old garbage.

    Hornets have 2 Jacks and they’re trying to make them Kings. No matter how hard they try, they just keep playing the same losing hand. The thing is they have a deuce that’s wild and yet they refuse to turn those Jacks in to a full house. Go figure!

    I hope Lin sits and recover until he’s fully healthy becuase just doesn’t want to play the wild card deuce.

  • sport

    Of course cause Lin got the credit for the win!

  • sport

    I think you mean Walker and Batum needs to stop running the offense because they freeze out teammate right?

  • Briiick

    It is not unlike Morey the paranoid stud maker.

  • wandertheglobe

    Is this guy trolling Lin fans?

    5 most important players for @hornets to retain for 2016-17 season: 1. Batum. 2. Walker. 3. MKG. 4. Kaminsky. 5. Zeller.— Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) January 16, 2016

  • DX

    Anyway, Lin won’t stay here.

  • sport

    Doesn’t mean Lin can’t sit out for a few games just like Batum to heal first! Pretty sure they can’t force him to play! In no way should Lin sacrifice his health for this team doing the dirty work when he’s not a starter and isn’t in their plans! Let the team lose a few more games without him and be even more desperate to the point that they will need him to lead as PG every game!

  • CJSHYY

    No, I think he knew Lin will not stay… that’s their starting 5 for next season.

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/688195779198988288

  • sport

    Sounds accurate, important players in Hornets eyes. Lin isn’t important to them if not he’d be starting.

  • BobbyH

    Good luck.

  • IMO He realized the Hornets won’t be able to retain Lin whose strong plays will get him better offer than his current $2.3M somewhere else.

    Probably starting PG with the Bulls, 76ers or maybe Nets

  • Briiick

    I wonder if Lin is not allowed to participate much in the offense, does it show up in his hair style ?

  • heart

    Rick Bonnell is showing Hornets’ cards in the open now. Those are the core players Hornets want and have in their plan before the season began. They know Lin will walk. They’re using Lin as a 1yr rental. Remember, after Cliff started PJ at the beginning of regular season, it was clear to me then that Hornets didn’t have Lin in their long term plan. I even posted my sentiment on this issue. At the time, even the media was taken aback as to why Lin didn’t get to start when he was playing so well in preseason. Many discussions were on this subject.

  • Acbc

    I wouldn’t go that far, Morey was a snake that lied and weasel about Lin being a scrub bench player. Cliffrod and Cho has been very positive about Lin so far with the press. They are just bad at managing the team.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Batum n Kemba made shots tonight but all tough contested shots while Lin missed mostly open shots. It does happen some nights but in reality bad for a long season. The odd was I would take Lin open shot any night.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin pls sit out next game.

  • Briiick

    Agree 1000000000000000000%.

  • wandertheglobe

    Knowing Lin will walk. It’s not out of the question that Charlotte may deal Lin before the trade deadline to get something of value for Lin.

    I’m not sure how legit is this article. It even goes as far as the Bulls giving Lin the max deal to replace Rose.

    http://www.inquisitr.com/2706148/nba-trade-rumors-jeremy-lin-to-replace-derrick-rose-in-chicago-rose-to-knicks/

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so but I doubt Cliff will let him if Lamb can’t play again.

  • heart

    Now that Rick Bonnell reveals Hornets’ plan. Lin must take care his health and gets stats as much as possible when he plays. One credit that I give is that Cliff has NOT bad mouth Lin, and I hope he won’t ever. That’s the least he can do for Lin, besides PT.

  • Briiick

    I like it.

  • I hope he really does. 1-2 games should get the ankle 100%

    JLin is very competitive but he’s not in the position to help the team if he’s not 100% & keep reinjuring the bad ankle.
    He needs to think long-term (even to help the Hornets to reach playoff)

    Let Kemba and Batum try to lead the win against the Bucks tomorrow.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin did his job but moron n hater like Rick Bonnel would not appreciate. Lin guard Gordon with 1 healthy ankle who shot 4-12.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not just tomorrow, take a week off or more pls Lin.

  • heart

    Thank you for making laugh. I needed that…

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I hope so. Please trade lin

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think Hornets will trade Lin bc what they can get back it’s no value w less than 2M… They need him to push for playoff.

  • Yes, health is #1

    Clifford knows Lin’s values but it’s clear JLin’s role is backup PG/SG, rebounder, glue-guy, hustle guy plus cover any defensive holes.

    He should be mad to whoever blew their defensive assignment that Lin had to cover Ryan Anderson and ADavis.
    Pretty crazy

  • CJSHYY

    I believe most of Hornets knew Lin only came here for one year only. After Lin drop 35 vs Raptors… that woman commentator said something like Lin can be a starter for this league in any team…? I guess Hornets did try to push Lin stays but he didn’t take it.

  • LinLinLin

    At this age, Jeremy is still a stubborn, competitive young man who listen to the elders’ advice. I was like that couple of years ago…hoping that Jeremy would be wiser in making his decisions and it’s not too late in his NBA career to fully realize his potentials.

  • heart

    It was Zeller. Zeller had moved up to help cover for KW (I think). Bc KW got scored on by T.Evans on the previous crucial possession in crunch time. So on this possession, Lin had to leave his corner 3 and run over when he saw Evans was about pass to Davis for a dunk. That was my recollection.

  • Briiick

    Hornets don’t care about winning as much as padding the stats of KW and Batum. When playoff chance is gone, they could do something.

  • LinLinLin

    That’s ok Rick Bonnell. Jeremy Lin will be leading his team to crush the Hornets in the coming seasons! Good Luck Hornets.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Kemba can’t guard any guard one on one, help came and blew assignment

  • CJSHYY

    These two will not make it to ASG by vote for sure. They are pretty much done w their showcase now. I believe Hornets still try to push for playoff.

  • Briiick

    A backup role for KW ? LOL.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think so more like starting SG… Like what he did in vs Raptors…..but I think Lin can get another starting PG job next season.

  • LinLinLin

    LinsanityMovie should make a documentary on all the ridiculous phantom fouls calls on Jeremy by the crooked officiating

  • True, it was a tougher choice for Zeller since he saw Holiday beat Kemba but he left ADavis too early.
    Zeller should risk challenging Holiday left than leaving a wide-open ADavis for the dunk.

    Ryan Anderson 3 was bad since whoever covered him didn’t run back on time.
    The transition defense was horrible.

  • Dorothy

    Someone please send Rick Bonnel’s tweet to Lin, also ask Lin to sit until he is fully recovered.
    Why Bonnel sent out that tweet now???? It is not like someone asked him.

  • heart

    So true. I heard that phrase on opponents’ feeds in several games now. Opponents do their homework, either to let KW go iso or go one-on-one w/ KW.

  • LinLinLin

    You go girl. Many will retweet.

  • LinLinLin

    Wow, Charlotte Hornets are at the 12th spot, bottom 4 in the Eastern Conference.
    Jeremy again is going fishing early this season. Sad!

  • CJSHYY

    I am not surprised bc that’s pretty much like what Lin said in the beginning of season he came here to help them. Don’t think he even planned to stay….

  • Bonnel did tweet that it’s nice to have JLin and Marvin back but not a given.

    Now this is true but the weird thing is Batum resigning is also NOT a given

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/688195779198988288

  • CJSHYY

    I think Batum will stay bc he will be #1 guy in this team. That’s why he got all the rights on court. Also the guy who took the last shot.

  • he might like that role.
    I’d say JLin team should give them a preview of what next season looks like in the next 2-3 games by letting his ankle heal 100%

    I’m concerned it can be a chronic injury now.

  • CJSHYY

    Still have more than half season left….

  • Acbc

    Big fish in a small pond, lol

  • CJSHYY

    I know but Cliff just too stubborn & don’t want to change…. I doubt Lin can rest if Lamb can’t play. smh!

  • Dorothy

    Totally, but once Lin sits they may play D since no one does it for them…

  • LinLinLin

    Jeremy should not stay! This team isn’t going anywhere.
    Playing backup to an undersized Kemba? That’s a waste of Jeremy’s talents.
    No more starter. No All Star. No Rings…nonono

  • Dorothy

    Super

  • LinLinLin

    Still harboring hope that the team will change and play better? Leopard wont change its spot. They make the playoffs. This season is wasted.

  • blubell
  • Acbc

    Give the guy some credit. Lin’s the one making it in the NBA and your not. There are things far more important than being a star. Lin will do it his way and he’ll make it by being a team player.

  • Nice snapshots to show a clear foul before the ball was inbounded to JLin.
    CHA Hornets announcers even mentioned it should be 2 FTs but then … nothing
    @NBAOfficial:disqus should fix the “home-call” but we know they will stay silent

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/688240846844465152

  • LinLinLin

    Corrections: The Hornets won’t make the playoffs! This season is a waste for Jeremy.

  • then it might be even better since they’ll be forced to play D
    Or maybe not since they gave up the most pts (126?) vs Clippers when Lin had to sit out

  • CJSHYY

    Game over nothing will change.

  • too quick =)

  • blubell

    Haha. I’ll delete since you added commentary to yours 🙂

  • blubell

    Highlights from Jun…

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Sad that Cliff didn’t ask for review

  • LinLinLin

    I don’t know whether my conclusion is correct about foul calls by the crooked officiating.

    If Jeremy is a low salary “scrub”, he will be given lots of phantom calls for fouling the opponents while not receiving FT even its a blatant foul on him by his opponent. So Jeremy has to make sure he doesn’t agree to low salary to play his game as he won’t be able to do so given that the NBA referees only favour the “Stars”.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Whatever, damage control for moronic

  • Guest

    He’s happy to be a “Yes” man to his Boss and the NBA officials.

  • Guest

    Would be…whatever.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It’s either before ball inbound or in active shooting. Either way, Lin should be on the free throw line for 2 shots.

  • LinLinLin

    Indeed I am not in the NBA. But I get tired of reading posts blaming Clifford, Cho, etc etc.
    It’s the human nature to be selfish. Jeremy, being as inteligent as he is and Harvard should know it very well that people cant be fully trusted. Alas, we all trusted the Hornets too…who really knew the team is so clueless in winning basketball games.

    My point is that Jeremy is a trusting person. Competitive and will all he can(even risking a chronic injury) to help his team win. Just hope that he chooses the right team next season.

  • guest

    All the team that Jeremy has played for, the Hornets are the most boring team to watch.

  • I have to say the Mohawk a lot better.

    More dangerous and perhaps signal more foul to refs

  • CJSHYY

    I agree bc they let Lin played SG most of the time…

  • heart

    Remember these two refs who both made some questionable calls and non-calls in tonight’s game: Ref# 9, Derrick Stafford and Ref #11, Derrick Collins.

  • tom

    Nah Lakers were just as bad

  • tom

    But he was missing shots badly before that

  • tom

    He has no influence
    he is irrelevant

  • tom

    But the Hornets arent gonna win
    Batum only stays if Cho promises to get better bigs and Clifford coaches better

  • heart

    Mohawk looks sharper like a warrior on Lin. The slick hair is best suited for suits.

  • Guest

    Other than Batum, all the 4 players are drafted by Cho.
    Yeah, nothing wrong to build the team around these players. Cho obviously is a smart guy.

  • a guest

    Lin’s younger has been the best shooter in the family. Why didn’t Lin take a page from his younger bro, instead waiting so long to tweak his shooting form? To shoot 70% this season maybe a pipedream for us fans.

  • Here’s the saddest situation with the Hornets: Non-Physical Big Men who can’t finish strong or defend like Ed Davis & Tyson Chandler. Even Asik who can defend would be 100% upgrade.

    We had a few times when JLin drove to the rim but no big men reads or moves without the ball to get alley-oop, dunk, layup so he had to pass it out.

    Zeller tried hard but he needs 10-15 more lbs, Frank has some nice inside moves at times; Hawes has no moves inside
    Frank/Hawes shies away from contact all the time. At least Zeller tried very hard but curiously he only played 23min tonight
    They made a mistake not resigning Bismack Biyombo who’s a shot-blocker, rebounder and very physical.

    But the biggest reason why Hornets is losing is because they are not serious about defense.
    1. They rank 27th on “Opponent % of Points from 3 Pointers”
    2. They rank 26th on “Opponent Fastbreak Efficiency”

    If Coach Clifford is serious about defense, he should hold players accountable.
    Until then, there’s no playoff aspiration to be discussed.

  • Zeller shouldn’t commit to Jrue too early, left ADavis for easy dunk

    https://twitter.com/NBA/status/688251243840409601

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I have already resigned few in the second/third losing streak that Hornets wouldn’t make it to the playoffs for the reasons:
    1. Hornets/Cliff stubborn of using his chosen men to play nonexistence ingame adjustments.
    2. No teamball but isos–esp Kemba & Batum
    3. JLin — everyone was playing pg except JLin.
    4. Many many many more reasons…..

  • CJSHYY

    I really hate #3… why they just never let Lin plays PG now? Really hate this & I think they really got what they asked for it. Lose more games.

  • Very true. Unless Clifford makes a drastic change, Hornets would continue many losing streak.

    He’s too nice. He didn’t hold players accountable to play defense like Pop does.
    There’s no reason not to play Psycho T if he needs toughness in the game.

    If he fouls out, so be it. But the message is delivered. Right now, Frank and Hawes can play soft on D & tries hard on offense. Kemba plays 40+min and can’t/wont’ hustle on D.

    It’s very disappointing to see Clifford’s coaching so far.

  • Acbc

    Cho will last maybe one more season after this year. He will be fired soon after Lin leaves.

  • sport

    Lin probably didn’t realize this until Steph Curry’s quick release and shooting form became popular these few seasons.

  • sport

    Mohawk grabs more attention, shows confidence, make shim look taller and intimidating! JLin should really just stick with the mohawk from now on.

  • sport

    Doesn’t matter they had a right to call for review!

  • sport

    Only Lin can decide whether he can sit. Coach can’t force his player to play if they’re injured especially when Batum sat for a few games.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Zeller tried to help Kemba for D….

  • occupatio

    for the PnR play against Kemba and Cody, the first mistake is that the team did not talk enough to alert kemba what was happening. since neither marvin nor cody called out which direction the screen was coming from, kemba failed to go under davis’s screen, and also failed to go over it — he went straight into the middle of the screen

    that basically took kemba out of the play.

    after that, cody comes up too far, basically up to the 3 pt line, to obstruct holiday. thats too far up, so davis gets an easy diving lane to the basket.

    ideally, cody would first bump davis very quickly, then shift over to obstruct holiday so kemba can recover.

    so, i think those are the two major mistakes. not communicating on defense so kemba can anticipate the position of the davis screen that is incoming, and how cody positions himself in relation to both davis and holiday.

    what the pelicans did was a simple horns setup, with two guys coming up as potential screeners, which is so common. if the team cannot even defend this, then its obvious that their defense is broken.

  • sport

    Choosing to reunite MDA would be Lin’s best choice. After 5 teams, Lin should know that many coaches will follow hidden agenda from FO and not play him to his full potential. Only MDA who finally doesn’t need to fight with a higher up will have power to choose the right plays and start Lin as PG!

  • sport

    Which is dumb, it’s a no brainer that AD is the no.1 and most deadly scoring option for Pelicans! You don’t leave AD open no matter what! Even if it means closing late on a 3 attempt that most likely misses in these situations. Cliff should’ve made that point to the team during the timeout to focus their defense on AD.

  • LAJane

    And of course look who’s right under AD…saw what was coming but couldn’t cover for Zeller quite in time. Lin. Mr. court vision.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I don’t think they can review whether there was a foul on a specific player…Oncd a foul is called or not called, they stick with it.

    Reviews are only for small thing like, whether the shot went in before the shot-clock vioation, or whether a player stepped out of bound…or whether a particular foul is a flagrant

  • adele

    Most people keep saying why Lin keeps on shooting 3’s, not making his open shots, not shooting more and driving to the basket, etc, etc, etc. Maybe all those people who were questioning should ask Clifford. He managed the plays on each game. He managed the time, and the type of role each player does in each game. Yes, I agree that Clifford is nice. But is he smart? And I don’t like the way he is playing the politics around the team. He is not using Lin’s strength properly. Why? Because he is not that smart. He is more on defense? Really? Except Kemba and Batum? Its ok if these 2 will not do any defense because it’s Kemba’s team and they are Luring Batum to re-sign with them? Last night, Lin stays in the corner most of the time. I said to myself, wow they are using Lin like Novak shooting 3’s. That is not Lin’s strength! Clifford should be aware of that. And all the 3 other players not named Kemba and Batum should play defense and support these 2 stars in anyway to get their stats. Sad…like you Jlin fan, I resigned and not actively watching. No excitement to watch Hornets games because I know that it’s always Kemba’s and Batums show.

  • leeda harun

    Mj’s motivation only last for one day. Lin reinjured his ankle.The bigs is not good,enough. Is the losibg streak going to continue again?

  • leeda harun

    Maybe drastic changes only happens when mkg comes back.

  • occupatio

    its not really an effort and motivation problem. its kinda a personnel thing. eg, kemba really is not effective against anyone on defense. esp when he is outmatched in size.

    and, the help rotations arent there, and thats something they should know what to do, and where to be by now. at this pt in the season, calling it low effort doesnt quite explain it. and pointing to cliff’s lack of preparation doesnt either. these players just dont have it.

    i dont trust anyone to play D on the team except lin.

  • Phillycheese

    Batum is the only one that can go anywhere else as the others are under contract. So not sure what he is implying.

  • Phillycheese

    Start Kemba when the other team has a smallish PG – Atlanta, Boston, Sacramento, Houston, Clippers, GSW, Toronto, Orlando. But against teams with bigger backcourts I would start Lin instead – OKC, SA, Milwaukee, NOL, Chicago, Lakers, Cleveland, Washington, Miami. But that is a dream, and will never happen.

  • TTNN

    Hornets was killed by this kind of P&R defense by GSW, and I’m surprised they have not adjusted still. Cody always goes out too much, and Kemba always had problem with screens. Kemba some how never play ICE, and got stuck on screen. And when Cody go out to help too much, he left the wing defending the rolling big and corner 3 at the same time, they got burn every time.

    Cody need to remember he is playing center now, and with horn, there is no big behind him. Also in this play, Marvin should sink and try to stop AD too, I think because he is defending RA,he can’t give him space there.

  • CT

    Good analysis!! Thanks.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    For Hornets to win, Batum needs not score, neither does Walker. But Lin has to score well for this team to win.
    The other night Batum scored in single digit but the Hornets blew the Hawks away. But when Lin wasn’t scoring well. The team would lose.,

  • Acbc

    Lin’s been changing his form since 2012 or earlier. He’s been working with Doc since then and incrementally improving ever since. That 70% he’s talking about is about doing it in practice, not in games. Lin’s done that already at least once coming into the season in 2013. That summer he was working on his stroke with Doc and was shooting 70% 3s. But that form wasn’t the end result they were aiming for. As a result, it too morph again the next summer into yet another stage.

    What people don’t realize is that each incremental change is like taking a step up to reach an ultimate goal. Each of those steps is a stop gap that breaks his old form and enable a new tweak to take. Lin’s form looks almost correct now and I’m sure he’s working really hard to take this new stage into 70% again in practice to make it muscle memory.

  • Acbc

    Lin’s role on this team is to be a super defensive support player like Patrick Beverly. That’s his role on offence, to get out of the way and be the last ditch outlet to dump the ball to after the Stars have used up the clock. Lin’s not dumb. He knows what they want and it is far from what Cliffrod had promised, that Lin would get a chance to play his game. Lin is using his play time and his role to erase the Morey misinformation that Lin is a bad defender.

    Lin is taking those last minute desperation 3s because that’s his role. Lin doesn’t mind becuase, he needs to keep practicing that new stroke in game situation anyways. Lin knows just how far he can push his envelop to remain on the court to promote himself. It’s a fine line he needs to straddle becuase he’s not the designated star.

    We have to just accept this team losing and stop blaming Lin for it. We’ve learn to look at Lin’s game as a “win” if he plays his define role well. That’s a “Lin win”, all else is just gravy.

  • Brent Yen

    Yes sir! To me….I like to see it this way. Lin will be gone, and he is using Hornets to make his next season a even better pne

  • xeroid

    From the game obvious Lin still not completely healed on his ankle. He still stumbled on his ankle when making sharp cuts and it affected his shootings. I think with the All Star break he might make a full recovery and his shooting percentages will rise. Hornets need Lin on his great defenses, and better use of Lin and allow him to be the PG when the few minutes when both Kimble and Batum both sit.

  • Guest

    Lin is missing his shots. When he can improve his shooting, he will be fine with hornets.

  • Acbc

    Hey Brent, haven’t seen you for a while. Happy new year.

  • CT

    That means Cody is not a smart player. He plays hard and not afraid of contact. That is it.
    All the bigs in Hornets are not physical, except Al, and not smart players, includes Al. They can’t see the court, can’t read the scheme.
    I found usually one can plays P& R well and can move without ball and cut well is a high IQ player.

  • ViNuyork
  • KHuang

    It’s LIN’S TEAM.

  • KHuang

    The smallish PGs have been bashing Walker too.

    The notion that Lin cannot guard small PGs is a HATER MYTH with absolutely no reality in video or stats.

  • KHuang

    Clifford’s way of trapping is to double the ball indiscriminately.

    That worked two seasons ago, but not last season when opponents figured it out.

  • KHuang

    You could add the best big men in the NBA to Charlotte and the Hornets still could not defend because Walker allows too much dribble penetration.

  • KHuang

    Let Clifford keep coaching badly.

    He’ll get FIRED.

  • KHuang

    You’re conveniently forgetting something.

    Lin’s younger brother doesn’t play in the NBA with NBA triple teams engulfing him every time he crosses the 3 pt line.

  • KHuang

    When Lin was earning $15 million last season, that didn’t stop the refs from race cheating him.

  • rookie75094

    F all the racist nba refs….except for the white female ref…I like her…she is fair to Jlin

  • Acbc

    You’re missing the point. We have to let go of this team and just focus on what Lin needs to do for himself while serving out his sentence/ contract with this loser team. Lin will play his heart out anyways. That’s his nature. We can’t change that. Sure we may want the Hornets to win just because Lin wants it, but at the same time we need to remember not to be so emotionally invested. This team is just not worth losing sleep over.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is Lin injured?

  • grover chang

    LOL, but to Rockets credit they have been trying harder and playing better lately.

  • grover chang

    The pelicans announcer said Lin was out of position. Which I don’t get even if Lin was a little closer. Was Lin going to jump above the rim to stop that pass. The previous times they ran PNR Lin stole the ball on a lower pass, I guess Holiday remembered that and so threw it high. Lin had no chance to stop that play.

    Hornets only hope would’ve been to have Lin guard Holiday in the first place.

  • grover chang

    Fixing #3 will sometimes fix both ends of the court. When Lin plays pg and everyone touches the ball on the offense…. then everyone plays on defense.

  • grover chang

    Can’t say Lin sitting out will affect my schedule much anymore. The games are too sad to watch. Not that the games are not close and competitive, but the wasted potential is sad to watch.

    The Hawks game and the time they were winning shows if the team plays as a team they could be a top team in the east. But just 1 or 2 guys could ruin the whole chemistry of a team to take it from the top to the bottom.

  • heart

    We know that but do Hornets realize that!? Probably, but they still want their stats.

  • sws94

    I don’t think many regulars are going to like this post but I’m going to say this anyway. Lin does not look like a starting PG this season. His facilitation is not that good this season. The best thing by far this season is his defense and versatility, not his play at PG. And no, it isn’t because of Clifford, Lin has taken a step back in facilitation execution. And anyone who says he needs DMA or anything like that, no. He could do it in this system, he’s just not.

    The best facilitator by far is Batum on this team. TOs and lazy passes or not, he’s mostly in the flow. Batum does more to make Kemba better than Lin does. When Lin is playing PG he just isn’t quick enough to get to spots and get guys balls (not in terms of ability, in terms of how he’s played). Several times in the PnR over the past few games I’ve seen Lin miss Frank wide open when the 2 defenders were showing where Frank could have at least tried to convert a pass. Several times I’ve seen Lin just come over to Batum or dribble for a few seconds to not advance the ball anywhere and just keep it on the perimeter. I know he needs more touches and he’s a rhythm player. I know his game. But this season he’s just not playmaking as well as he has in the past or like a starting PG and that’s nobody else’s fault.

    We can always want Lin to become a starting PG but let’s just look at number 7 sometimes, not Lin, but number 7 and how he plays. Forget everything you think you know or know about him. How does he look running an offense. I think, needs improvement is a fair grade for him. Some nights his shots will fall and sometimes not and he’s yet to go on a hot streak. He will. He’ll get his points. But his assists possibilities just aren’t cutting it for the amount of time he spends on the court without Kemba and only Batum or either of them. Some of this is attributed to others, but why can they make a play for Batum and not Lin? Because Lin needs to do more than dribble/drive to set them up and create better for them catered to their game like Batum tends to do. That’s why Cliff is so big on Batum, he really does that.

    I don’t say this to praise Batum but this is obvious after he’s come back from injury. He’s the real playmaker on this team, not the point guards.

  • sws94

    Why does Lin have to be a PG to facilitate? He really doesn’t. As soon as Lin gets touches he can facilitate or not. The more confidence and execution Lin shows facilitating, the more the team goes to him. The more all Lin does is get the ball, dribble a few times, and passes it back to Batum or Kemba, the less confidence the team has that he can facilitate. When he’s been on the court without Kemba or Batum, the offense didn’t look organized. Batum comes in and it looked more organized.

  • sws94

    Lin was guarding a 3 point shooter. What was the Pelican announcer talking about? Once Lin realized the defense broke down AD is too big and was too open and too close to the rim for Lin to do anything.

  • DX

    Lin play SG with Kemba. If Kemba off, Batum facilities even Lin plays PG.

  • sws94

    I’m NOT talking about position. Batum plays SG and facilitates great. Lin CAN facilitate well at SG or whatever guard position he’s taking. I’m asking us to look at Lin in game 38 or whatever it was, practically halfway into the season, as any other player and try to more objectively assess how he’s playing rather than using the same types of justifications and really what are now excuses we constantly come up with. You can be a Lin fan and say he’s underwhelming.

  • heart

    I’m still thinking about the Davis’ dunk. This is on Cliff who supposed to be a defensive coach. Usually, he would yell out loud to the players on court what to do or what’s coming, but at this critical juncture, I don’t remember hearing his voice spouting out instructions to what’s coming…Did any one hear? I knew right away it was Cody mistake to leave his spot to help KW. Lin was guarding in corner 3.That was not his defensive assignment to defend Davis. Lin was the only one saw the PnR between Evans and Davis and what was coming that’s why he alone rushed over to defend Davis. Zeller, KW, and MW were in the paint, except Lin. Evans guided the rock to Davis for a dunk and these three players didn’t even realize it.

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff couldn’t blame anyone but himself bc even Zeller was not supposed to leave his guy open but Cliff it’s coach & why he didn’t do anything or thought about what to do? He probably thought it would be OT then…. smh!

  • heart

    Felt bad for Lin bc the last image was him defended Davis. A 6’3 w/ one injured ankle was going against a 7’0 w/eye dunking the basket? Not a fair fight! Cliff is the key culprit for this loss! SMH!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff is not a smart coach & sometimes he’s just too stubborn…. didn’t know when or how to change w the game was not going well….

  • GUEST

    Flagged. TROLL!

  • GUEST

    FLAGGED. TROLL!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin reads the offense very well to play defense, just like the last play he guarded Anderson (not his man) in the first half.

  • heart

    The sad thing is that the NBA circle thinks he’s smart. I believe this is a ‘group think’ syndrome. Their thinking is not objective bc they feed and repeat the same proverbial info/narrative on Cliff.

  • CJSHYY

    OMG, look at this team… Hope Lin will not play today.

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/688395964709761029

  • a guest

    Joseph’s shooting is quite similar to that of Curry’s. Lin and his family aren’t no stranger to the hop shooting form, maybe took it rather lightly as they thought Lin’s playmaking is his strength and the rest isn’t that important?

  • heart

    This team is plagued w/injuries since the beginning of the season. Probably too many hard practices including minutes and rotations are not managed properly. This is on coach again.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes since lin is not in the top 5 players the want to bring back next season, why burn yourself to play hard for this ungrateful organization?

  • DX

    What Batum doing, don’t you think that’s coach’s ask or approve? did you see even Kemba give the ball to Batum even he plays PG. You think Lin like stay in the corner and do nothing. Just think about if Lin plays SG with Kemba and gets 3 TOs in 1Q. Can he still get 40 minutes PT and stay to the end? Batum and Lin get different treat.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin will play ….. smh!

  • DX

    This team barely make the playoff even with full health rosters.

  • fatbob

    i disagree with this post. The reason being, lin does not actually play as a dedicated PG anymore. Cliff is relying on 2 other players: Kemba and Batum to do that job, so lin isn’t needed to do it. Last few games Cliff has played Lin with kemba/batum OR one of the 2, never by himself. He is the SG or combo guard, he is NOT the PG so you can not make any judgements on his suitability as a PG. It is as simple as that. I agree though that Batum is a good playmaker, he passes well, one pass usually directly leads to a bucket. Lin is a better facilitator though, he will pass to one man, who will pass it to another open man who then scores a bucket.

  • Why is JLin’s facilitation not as good as previous seasons?
    Simple, 2 reasons:
    1. his designated role is not playmaker in this team, even in the 2nd unit he’s asked to play SG
    2. And Batum has more practice with 1st unit as the designated playmaker

    But is Batum really a better playmaker with all this advantage of the role & practice?

    Batum doesn’t play a lot better than Lin as a facilitator despite all his advantage. Check out their PER 36

    Batum: 16.6pts/5.6asts/3.2TOs
    JLin: 16.5pts/4.1asts/2.5TOs

    If we simply compare the AST/TO ratio, Lin’s 1.64 is not far from Batum’s 1.75
    And compare with Lin’s Lakers AST/TO ratio from last season: 6.4ast/3.1TO = 2.06

    Batum makes too much TOs on simple passes while Lin usually had TOs trying difficult passes to big men trying to score under the rim

    So it’s clear that with the benefit of being playmaker and all the practice, Lin’s AST/TO of 2.06 in the Lakers season is much superior than Batum’s 1.75.

    As I said, Batum is a good secondary playmaker but Lin is a great primary playmaker if he is designated as one.

  • xeroid

    Well, I agree non of the regulars here will agree with you. The point you are missing is Lin has not been playing as a point guard even when Kimba or Batum were both out which was rare. When Batum was injured the last 2 weeks, Lin was playing mostly with Kimba, and when Kimba was out, Brien Roberts was playing point guard over Lin. If you look at the plus/minus of Lin and Kimba when they were not playing together you’ll find Lin was much superior to Kimba. Playing PnR need cooperation between guard and the pick. When the bigs don’t roll to be available for dunk or layout or like Hawes kept missing lay ups, or Lin with his ankle injury your thesis fell apart.

  • CT

    Clifford is very controlled and detail oriented. He stands at side of the court through the whole game giving instructions for both defense and offense.
    I know your point and your good intentions for this comment, but I disgreed with you about ” Lin can do ….. If he want…..” this part.

  • sws94

    He has. Lin has done more facilitation when both were in the game. I really think that Cliff, Batum and Kemba would like to see Lin do more. I’ve seen Batum give the ball to Lin and tell him to do his thing. Same with Marv. Not Kemba. I’ve seen Clifford run plays for Lin when he got into a rhythm. I think again, let’s look at #7 and see how he’s doing more than continue to think others are limiting him. Lin sometimes limits himself in my opinion.

  • sws94

    This is a good rebuttal to my post. Thanks, psalm234. I think it is more the willingness to facilitate. Sometimes it is there with Lin, sometimes not. And the less he does it, the more rusty he looks at it. He still looks rusty sometimes facilitating to me. And sometimes just willing to let others do it while he focuses on other aspects of the game.

  • sws94

    He played PG by himself in the previous game. That was the worse part of the game until Batum came back. Lin as PG didn’t organize the offense in that stint. And when playing with Batum and without Kemba, Lin is still PG.

  • sws94

    OK, now Kemba has an injury. Batum has a new one. Lin aggravated his old one. Lamb shouldn’t play at all. This team needs the ASB badly.

  • sws94

    Lin looked 100 correct in how he played. The only thing he could try to do is deny Davis position but he was guarding his own man at the 3 point line. Kemba/Cody botched that one. Lin wasn’t part of that PnR rotation really, and he had to stay on his man until AD committed.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    If Rick Bonne gets paid by the Hornets, he should be fired for his stupid twitt. It contradicts with the work of the GM and the coach. In other words he’s saying lin please exercise your 2nd year option and go elsewhere. Hornets don’t need you.

  • sws94

    He would struggle in the NBA. He doesn’t have Lin’s size. I’m glad to see Joe doing well where he’s playing.

  • CJSHYY

    I think he knew Lin will not return. Here is another tweet from him.

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/688195779198988288

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    His damage control was a later twitt

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think it’s damage control more just tell the truth. This tweet just right after the first one.

  • If Clifford designates Lin as the playmaker for 2nd team, I believe we’ll see Lin to be more in rhythm to orchestrate offense. But by now, we know his system wants Roberts/Hawes/Lamb to be multiple playmakers. It’s a bit too much with little success rate.

    I think Clifford #1 weakness in the system is to not utilize player’s strength but force them into a system. How can he not utilize Psycho T rebounding against big physical lineup? Why did he waste JLin’s playmaking and ask him too much to help rebounding and team defense?

    Unfortunately Clifford is too stubborn and too late to adjust.
    I though McHale was bad in the in-game adjustment but Clifford just doesn’t adjust well to use player’s strength. Very disappointing to see that.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    One aft er another is what have I done?

  • rookie75094

    Jlin need to sit out one month for The ankle to completely heal for his next team….not this ungrateful team

  • jlinfan7

    I agree just look at the game against the wizards when lin was allowed to facilitate a little bit. He had 7 assists and he was a third option, but clifford was giving lin the reigns a little more because of in the previous game he put up 35 against toronto.

  • rookie75094

    Lol he knew the unselfish team players won’t be back with this selfish team.

  • CT

    There is valuable point for sure to look at his game only as #7. That is exactly how outsider would look at and evaluate Lin’s game. But respond your comment above,
    1. About Batum pass to Lin, this happened just recently. The more they play together, the more they trust each other. Batum had coach’s green light to do whatever he think was right on the court. Clifford said that before.
    2. Lin could play as true PG more while he lead the 2 unit alone which is by designed. However, this is no longer the case. Clifford staggered three of them, Walker, Batum and Lin, more and more now. With Walker or Batum, Lin is SG and second offensive option. While three of them together, Lin is the third, that also is by designed.
    3. Hornets lack of good p & r players. This significantly weakened Lin’s offense threat and his assistant made percentage. Maybe that is why Clifford prefer Lin as 2 guard base on Honets current rosters.

    I think it is fair the say how Lin should improve as PG while your teammates’ strength are not favour you. But I have to disagree respectfully about your comment ” Lin can do what he want if he really want to” I have to disagree the thing you want to imply behind those words.

  • heart

    Well said. If Cliff continues w/ pregame season having Lin the sole PG play maker/leader for 2nd unit, then after many repetitions in in-game competitions, I’d think that this unit would have been the best and competitive BF1, and Hornets would be in the top ranking team for playoffs.

  • sws94

    You’re looking at selected games. In total, Lin’s facilitation has not been as good as he is capable of doing under ANY circumstance.

  • rookie75094

    Jlin will do major damage with his next team if it includes : Tyson Chandler, Ed Davis , Steve Novak, Carlos Boozer, Delfino, Shumpert,Dmo, and Brooks. Please get it done…MDA.

  • sws94

    I don’t know. I mean, sometimes I look at Lin and the 2nd unit and he looks great. Other times, he looks like he needs Kemba or Batum to help him. I’ve noticed his PnR passing timing not to the level of Lin’s previous abilities in terms of getting the ball to the roll man (when they roll). The timing on his passes isn’t there, he’s late to pass or doesn’t make the pass. I think if you watch a few of the latest games on League Pass, and I have, there are several times he did that. I’m just pointing that out.

    Dealing with the 2nd option, him not being the main PG, he still has opportunities. I don’t think he’s solidified his playmaking ability. I think his value to the team is in other areas. I’d like to see playmaking, one of his big strengths, come to the fore and I think it can in THIS system EVEN though he isn’t a primary playmaker. For me, he still has enough chances to do so.

  • sws94

    I agree with this. I think it is a matter of rhythm, repetition, building chemistry with guys. I think that Lamb and him have a good but not great chemistry. Lamb also has a lot of holes in his game and forgets team ball too much. The other guys are hit or miss. BF1 was messed up when Clifford tried to force the Kemba/Lin chemistry plus the injuries had Lin’s playing rotations more irregular.

  • sws94

    How about more of what he wanted. Of course, he’s in the system. But I think his teammates and Clifford know he can do more. I suspect he does so in practice when he is the leader of the 2nd team without the starters in it.

  • sws94

    Just his opinion. He’s a journalist. He’s entitled to it. Doesn’t make it right, wrong, better or worse than anyone else’s.

  • Epie

    If Lin is given the ball to facilitate in the first place, he would have had his flow. He’s been stuck in a corner barely touching the ball for the most of the times. I’ve watched almost all games and there were only few times he was given a real chance to facilitate and control the offense. I think you are being selective about the games where Lin struggled. Early in the season, he was doing well with his bench teammates. Everything changed when everyone started playing like Kemba and that’s when losing streak began. Since then, his role has shifted to be a defensive player and there’s not much he can do.

  • LAJane

    That’s not gonna work on this site. sws94 is a Lin fan and thoughtful poster here. Sometimes his view of Lin’s play is more critical than others, but he is always open to genuine debate and is respectful of those who disagree. Mods here shut down trolls on the spot, but choking off sincere conversation is not what happens here.

  • blubell
  • CT

    This part I agreed!! Sometime I would wonder why he just do this, why not just do that!? Wondering is there something holding him back!?
    However, after watching him plays those year I learned that Lin knows what he wants and he will do whatever he needs to get there. Just maybe not the obvious way that we thought it should be.

    ” I suspect he does so in practice when……” I agreed with this very much. I even think Lin had earned respect from his teammates by his game and he as person.
    To me, now holding him back is his ankle. I suspect after all star break, ( he can get a real break he needs for his ankle) we would see a more complete version of Hornets with more engaged Lin’s game.

  • sport

    One month would be too long and he would be really rusty. I think 1-2 weeks would be enough.

  • sport

    Aaron Brooks? Heck no he’s too short and a defense liability! Also there’s no why Tyson, ED, and Boozer would be on the same team they won’t get enough minutes! Not to mention all 3 deserves to start on a team!

  • blubell

    🙂

  • rookie75094

    True…but he is a team player…I like him

  • sport

    True but you want a PG who can lead the bench without worrying about defense due to height advantage.

  • sport

    No if Walker doesn’t play, Lin shouldn’t either since both has ankle sprain and Lin’s far worst!

  • rookie75094

    Let put it this way…however long it takes to be 100%…besides the racist haters don’t care if Jlin played hurt.they will gladly jump on him for these mediocre games …so why should he add fuel to that fire

  • rookie75094

    Maybe tony Douglas then…I like him aswell…brooks can be 3rd string..lol

  • sport

    Yes but if he comes back all rusty he will still look bad!

  • rookie75094

    Maybe for 1 game..that’s fine….not a whole strings of games like right now

  • sport

    I think Batum rested for 3 games last time? So Lin should at least rest for 3 games which is about 1 week?

  • CJSHYY

    He’s the beat writer for this team he sure knows more than any journalist.

  • rookie75094

    Agreed at least. 3 if not more

  • CJSHYY

    I think Kemba & Batum will play if Lamb still can’t play then Lin will play….

  • rookie75094

    I hope this is a precursor for a Jlin trade

  • cdblue10

    He’s just indirectly telling the managements to trade them now while they’re still traceable

  • sws94

    But he scored 26 on that ankle. I don’t know. Maybe some days it bothers him less than others. He played a lot of minutes that game to be followed by an 0-fer. I do agree his speed and cutting ability is hampered by his ankle for many games and that holds him back some.

  • rookie75094

    Lol…Jlin highlights from the bench is a whole lot more interesting than the action on the floor…. does that make me a true Jlin fan?

  • fatbob

    i agree with this, especially #3. Batum gets to play with a PnR player like Cody Zeller. Who does Lin get? Spencer Hawes a 7footer who shoots 3’s, can’t make a layup and the most embarassing, can’t dunk. Lin’s other option to play with is frank the tank, 1st year rookie who is also not a good PnR partner YET.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    what was his first tweet?

  • rookie75094

    Jlin needs realize the hornets don’t really care about his longterm health and will use him as much as they can….he has to look out for himself (and his fans…lol)

  • orLinaryjoe

    He’s saying they could live with or without him. Basically, not a must have. My read.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is anyone playing lin on this play??…I hope not.

  • cdblue10

    These 2 would be perfect for 76’ers or Nets for that matter.

  • fatbob

    the lineup of lin as pg, frank kaminsky, jeremy lamb, marvin williams and zeller/hawes is the highest ranking rotation the hornets have, it is called BENCH FORCE 1. The rating is +25 compared to the other rotations. The 2nd best rotation is +10 nowhere near bench force 1 rotation. Bench Force 1 was the unit that was rekking every other team in the league, before Al Jefferson got injured/suspended and Cliff gutted BF1

  • CT

    It is not how much he score, is whether he is hesitated to take shots or not even he missed. I found he more and more without hesitation to take the shot even though he had missed bunch before that one. To me that is a good sign. If you are open, you have to take the shot no matter how. He do that more and more now. That means he is confident himself along with his coach and his teammates. Regardless Hornets is a good team or not, I have to say their team chemistry is really good. On court and off court.

  • KHuang

    Jimmer Fredette would do the trick.

    His defense is nowhere near as bad as what haters of his skin color say.

  • fatbob

    excellent post!

  • sws94

    Yes, that’s a good development. He’s more apt to take shots even though he’s missing them. When watching Lin, sometimes I love to see his passes as much, sometimes more, than his scoring. I think in the Hornets highlights, vs. NY or Houston, there are more defensive highlights and a few nice passes and scoring vs. less defensive stuff in NY and Houston and a lot of nice feeds and scoring. I’d love to see more passes from Lin. There’s been a few lobs to Lamb and Batum, but hopefully after ASB there is more and more chemistry with the bigs.

  • KHuang

    Accurate and fair post.

    Lin holds that player option and likely will opt out.

    Charlotte is going to have to PAY to keep Lin, unless the NBA is still so racist that nobody wants him next season.

  • KHuang

    ALFALFA LIN

  • KHuang

    Wait, don’t we WANT Lin to opt out?

    I thought we were all sick of Charlotte’s zero defense isohogging.

    Rick Bonnell should be CONGRATULATED by Lin fans for such a tweet!

    Lin’s a GONER – and I like that!

  • sws94

    Lin’s mentality is to give whatever he has, sacrifice his body, to make plays for his team. He’s not the type to take himself out of games. If you want to see Lin out of games, the medical staff has to do it or Cliff limits his minutes. I don’t see either of that happening on the Hornets. So, pray Lin doesn’t get hurt too bad. He’s had injuries, but nothing that has kept him out for weeks/months or will impact his long-term career.

  • tom

    because he said its be nice if Lin stayed but not a given? thats stupid?

  • tom

    he said itd be nice if he came back but prolly not cuz they will make money next off season why so negative lol

  • tom

    not at all lol

  • JoeTeam

    this is the kind of team mate and friend we all need, someone who cheers for us with joy when we do it, and someone who is calling out opportunities …

  • fatbob

    i was watching the feed and you’re wrong. The announcer sounded impressed with lin’s defense on that play. Announcer said that lin should have been guarding the 3point player but because of what was happening to kemba and zeller, he came over to help. He didn’t come over fast enough because he didn’t want to leave his man open, and this was why the announcer said lin was “stuck in nomans land”

  • CT

    The same here. Luckily there is a version of Lin’s game highlights now that included both offense and defense along with all the blown out assist he made.
    Lin’s assist is always so creative and fun to watch. Also while he assisted a lot means he controlled the game flow. That is in the ZONE for Lin!

  • JoeTeam

    The modern fan – watching play-by-play at the end of the game last night, not knowing why 1.2 sec time out, and then seeing the uncalled shooting foul on JLin. All here, all over the net. Thanks. Yep, that was it, yet another ref thing.

    CHA is better than LAL, but at least there you knew it was just survival for a tanking team. Here, they are trying to win but they cannot muster the changes necessary.

  • Acbc

    I just knew that Walker was going to go down eventually. No one can play 40 minutes a game without getting banged up eventually. It’s just bad coaching to push someone that hard, especially one that’s coming off of an injury already.

  • LAJane

    Well, on the one hand you rightly note that playmaking is “one of his big strengths”, and on the other hand you feel he hasn’t “solidified his playmaking ability”. So that implies he has the ability but for some reason is not using it. When you say ” I think his value to the team is in other areas.” that implies the team isn’t so interested in his playmaking ability, but values him for other skills. Clearly they value his defense. Our speculation about lack of facilitating swings between coach misuse/teammate selfishness and so-called “passivity”.

    Personally, I will never buy that Jeremy holds back, because his lifelong history is one of competitive aggression. Years of fighting against odds has not blunted this but trained him in efficient control of his emotions and his opportunity. Of course there will be individual games where he’s just not at peak motivation, but his overall pattern is to maximize every moment. I believe it is almost impossible for fans on the FAR outside looking at a team to really know the challenges of the internal dynamics. Lin is NOT a designated star on the Hornets, and may well be considered only a short-timer. No matter your talent or how well your teammates or the admin like you, being potentially not there does change everything. You are a well-liked outsider. “Demanding” and “coming to the fore” can have a moment here and there, but will meet resistance in the overall scheme. We will see this as team inconsistency, but it’s just the underlying reality showing itself. KHuang predicted it, and he was right…that Lin’s talent would be divisive on this team. Well, actually, he said it would TEAR IT APART. I’m not that dramatic 😀 So, I do appreciate sws94’s comments, but for me they describe the pure theoretical lines of geometry, whereas Lin functions in the messy ‘how things change’ of calculus. Imho he’s milking the best rep rehab he can out of a system at odds with itself and with him.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Preach teach! Are you a teacher?

  • JoeTeam

    “A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.”

    Joseph Campbell

  • LAJane

    LOL. Aaahhh….just lots of mileage. Plus I paid attention 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    heart, in the highlights, were the announcers giving JLin a pass or saying he wasn’t cut in front? I missed the game. Thanks, just wondering if this discussion is to fix an announcer gaff or if they called it right. To me Jlin can come in to help, but he would have had to get into the offensive foul position way over where Cody should have been.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Haha. I pegged you for a math teacher. Also calm in yout posts. Compliment intended. At least math major.

  • JoeTeam

    To me people were being harsh on Kemba. Screens are supposed to work. The goal is to allow the harder shot, which would have been the outside shot. Cody should have cheated a little to get the outside shot put up. The AD dunk was a sure thing.

    The game was really lost on the uncalled shooting fouls. I didn’t get to watch the game, but shooting fouls might have won it for JLin. Was the game ho hum because of bad O and D? I’m guessing so.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I must say that I somewhat agree with some of the stuff you stated.

    I’ve also noticed that they would be time when the roll guy would be open and Lin would fail to pass it quick enough…maybe he’s lost confidence with his big men.

    Last night, when Lin came on, I thought he was a bit nervous when he was facilitating…Some of that might be because of the full court pressing…His man was guarding him full court and Lin was clearly flustered and made a few bad passes.

    He’s still not that comfortable when he’s being pressed full court…..He’s not as cool and calm like the other all-star PG, or even Kemba Walker.

  • orLinaryjoe

    It’s the way he said it, intended or not. Nice, not great. No optimism in his voice. Not a way to let him know they want him back.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin should rest and allow himself to heal. Look at Joakim Noah trying to play through an earlier tear in the shoulder now ends up completely dislocating it. Noah in a contract year like Jeremy and now is totally messed up.

  • LAJane

    Well thanks. Actually, I wanted to be a physicist, took all the higher math classes in high school. But back in my day females were quite actively discouraged from continuing with this once we got to college, so I’m familiar with the dynamics of being “iced out”. After the first year I did a 180 and went into the arts. The messy changes of calculus 🙂

  • orLinaryjoe

    I was irate at the non shooting call towards end of game too. In looking in to it, it was the last two minutes of the game, and the foul was committed early while there was no personal fouls already, so no bonus, and no FT. They just needed a couple of more seconds. Nothing could’ve done. Agree? #dumb rules

  • sws94

    That’s what I’m getting at. We are wanting him to be primary PG and with that he guards the best PGs, fights through picks, defensively and offensively has to handle the ball with confidence when traps and full-court pressure comes. He shows he struggles with that. That’s a big part of why Lin may be used on court with other facilitators.

  • BobbyH

    We all know Lin will play with injuries to help the team win. At this point, just let’s hope Lin stay healthy and don’t aggravate his right ankle..

  • sws94

    Jane, I think the ultimate test is when Lin is the primary facilitator, can he handle pressure and still run plays effectively. The answer is mixed. I think in terms of his own choices, and this is my speculation because I’m saying it as an observer, he may be gauging who has the match-up or flow advantage in a game. So if Batum is in rhythm, Lin is complementary. Kemba, to some degree the same though Kemba will be scoring more than facilitating. If neither is, sometimes he gets going but sometimes he doesn’t.

    I think Lin is a challenge to work in with Batum and Kemba, but with just Batum, they could work out quite well. Kemba is a challenge as a shoot-first PG. I don’t think he’s disruptive and no, I don’t understand Lin’s decisions. I give observations only, and any motives I seem to give are by chance, not intentional.

    I’m looking at the physical part of the game, the team part, and I don’t find Lin’s facilitation game to be where it’s been on other teams. Of course, personnel is part of it. But, sometimes he facilitates fine. So look at matchups? I don’t know.

  • JoeTeam

    let me ask … in last 2 mins, I understand you go to vid. If a call is made, would they normally go to vid to see if it’s shooting or free foul to give, or did the ref sequence so correctly to rules? I mean, just generally, I agree the foul happened before the inbound and JLin had continuous shooting motion. And it’s obvious he’s going to catch and shoot given 1.2 sec and where he was, so the play was drawn to him so refs should have at least have known ahead of the play he’s shooting.

  • sws94

    Yeah, that assists zone. Hope to see Lin with a 10 assist game soon. What’s been his highest? 7. Of course, guys have to hit shots and Hawes/Kaminsky aren’t the best to help Lin there. They actually do better shooting from distance than point blank.

  • sws94

    Lin didn’t go to the line as I remember. That’s unusual. That’s one of his strengths. Should have had a chance to tie it on that late-game inbounds play.

  • Acbc

    It was already painfully obvious that Cliffrod doesn’t really understand the new concepts of new offences. He’s still playing the old system with primary designated scorers. Cliffrod believes that by shooting more 3s he’ll be playing the GSW and Spurs game, which is totally untrue. After 30 games, I had seen enough to know that Clifford’s system is totally flawed.

    MJ makes them play one game the right way and then they double down on the same old garbage system that put them into a tailspin. That tells me that Cliffrod has no idea how to fix it accept by doing the same thing harder.

    Lin plays the way he does because that’s his role on this team. Why does Bev keep passing the ball to Harden? He’s told to do it. That’s why he’s on the court! Lin is not dumb, he knows that he needs to stay on the court and get his PT to improve his image and reputation.

    People that choose to look only at the obvious results of his play can apply their own beliefs into it as they like, but to me it’s just myopic to draw conclusions because of the results he’s producing. If we all do that, then we’d be saying Morey was right and that Lin is a third string scrub. The numbers he was producing by the way M&M forced upon Lin made it easier for BS and Lakers to continue to beat down his numbers. Now Clifford is doing the same thing by artificially creating a situation that limits Lin’s role on offence by making him give up the ball to his designated scorers. To me Lin’s talents are being wasted on this team.

    Lin’s tightening his Circle of influence on the things he can control. He plays hard on defence and accepts his Beverly role on offence. Do I think he’s happy about it? NO! Lin has handed over control of his future to his God and is doing everything he’s allowed to do with his total effort. I totally respect his inner peace to be so forgiving. Not many of us would have that type of inner toughness to accept this role when he knows he could do so much more for his teammates.

    I’ve given up on this team now and already is looking ahead to his next destination. There’s just no reason to be emotionally invested in a team like the Hornets anymore.

  • tom

    hes just a writer like who cares
    no need to put too much thought into what word he used

  • heart

    To me, the Pelicans announcers portrayed it like it was Lin’s fault. Instead of pinpointing the deficient defensive assignments specifically on Zeller, KW, and perhaps MW who were misguided to focus on guarding Holiday and not detecting the PnR between Holiday to Davis who was waiting for the rock to roll to the basket for a dunk. Pelicans announcers celebrated Davis’ winning dunk by misinforming the viewers w/their sketch review of Lin’s defensive assignment instead of the other three players.

  • tom

    Ref wanted to go home

  • orLinaryjoe

    Given couple of seconds left with no PF, not surprised NO’s tactic was to foul (holding) to cut time down if req’d. REF had hard decision, call foul early to reserve time? Should have had replay tho, unless they called the holding foul early, which I think they did.

  • rookie75094

    Like I said…hornets will not keep him out long enough for him to heal properly

  • sws94

    All-star break is coming up. That will help. Hope that may be enough.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Opposite for me. Early fine arts background to more finite technical geometry as you call it. Building design.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Nah, don’t care enough to tweet him. Just dumb twit.

  • rookie75094

    Also I hope by the asb…Jlin injury doesn’t get worse where it may become a long term thing

  • donsmacau

    Of course I support JLIN to Sixers however there are much better and younger P&R partners and pure Shooters arriving at Sixers than Marvin.

  • Uh-Oh

    You must be really good at analysing curves and shapes. So what curves you like more? S curve or O curve or H curve?

  • Briiick

    Yeah Hornets can win or lose, who cares as long as KW gets his stats, right ?

  • orLinaryjoe

    Catenary curves. Beautiful and functional. And of course, baby mama’s, lol.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Yeah, Bone head Bonnell comment.

  • tom

    its not even that bad of a tweet

  • Hope

    Could this be lin leading the 2nd unit to a win without kw and nb.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not my point KHuang, of course I want him to opt but I’m talking from their point of view.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You don’ get my point. Not saying Lin should opt or not, they already reject the idea to have Lin back without any effort other than accepting the 2nd year low pay.

  • tom

    LOL “fake Chinese food”
    You’d understand if your parents are from China/Taiwan
    Wonder if it was invented by actual chinese or americans

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • new game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g40-mil-cha-game-thread/

    On the 2nd game of back-to-back game, Lin is listed as questionable with right ankle sprain that reinjured during the Pelicans game. Even Kemba and Nic Batum are listed as probable. If JLin is not 100%, he should really rest but we know he’s very competitive so he might play tonight.

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/688395964709761029

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s pray and hope that he gets closer to 100% health and maintains his shooting touch

  • Barry Allen

    Sorry, that all looks terrrible! lol

  • tom

    the food?

  • Barry Allen

    yes lol

  • tom

    yup
    its like the transition from authentic to american chinese
    panda express is 100 times better

  • ManuGinobilin

    —— The Short Response:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/linje01.html#advanced_pbp::none

    Jeremy is playing 35% of his minutes at Point Guard, and 65% at Shooting Guard… so it makes sense that he doesn’t LOOK like a Starting Point Guard [because he’s not even usually playing at PG…].

    In that case, just the scheme of the team and where Jeremy fits into the team plays a HUGE factor on his opportunity to distribute the ball [You naturally won’t have as many opportunities to playmake, when you’re not the PG/main initiators].

    Obviously, playing position is not the end-of and be-all of playmaking ability, but when watching Jeremy play in live games, I see no dropoff in Jeremy’s ACTUAL ABILITY to playmake this season [I actually think his playmaking ability has been improving over the years].

    ***

    ——- The Long Response:

    With all of this said, if you look on BBALL-REF and check out Jeremy’s Assists-Per-100-Plays, you’ll see that HE IS averaging a CAREER LOW in assists [5.7 ASSISTS per 100 Plays] vs [11.8 A during Linsanity, 9.4 A + 7.1A in Houston, 9.1 in LA].

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/linje01.html#per_poss::none

    If you’re looking at Jeremy solely in a vacuum of stats [without factoring in team roster, fit in scheme, etc], then this “regression” is concerning [in regards to his playmaking]… You might say, “Lin was a fluke in NY… 11.8 Assists during 100 Possessions there, and now he’s regressed to 5.7??! He’s half as good!”

    That’d be missing the reality of how important scheme and teammates are though [not to mention LAZY].

    When looking at the actual abilities of a player in this regard, or another category [etc], you have to factor scheme, fit, AND roster, [before you then factor in the eye-test based on these things].

    If we go in-depth to analyze Jeremy Lin’s ability to playmake beyond stats, I feel that we get a much more accurate picture of what level of player Jeremy is at — but in order to do this — we have to do the work, and factor in team scheme, player fit, and team roster.

    ***

    For example, Lin was playing at PG 96% of the time as the PRIMARY playmaker during Linsanity and producing 11.8A/100. This makes sense since Lin is at his best as a PnR guard, and in NY he was in a spread PnR offense where his roll partner was one of the best and athletic PnR Bigs in the league [Tyson Chandler].

    In Lin’s first Houston season, he played at PG 88% as the SECONDARY playmaker [behind Harden] and produced 9.4A/100. His main roll partner was Omer Asik this season [who had bad hands], but was still a relatively decent PnR big. Houston also ran a spread PnR offense [great for Lin’s opportunities to playmake], but with the emergence of Harden + replacing Tyson’s elite finishing with Asik’s mediocre finishing, it makes sense that Lin’s A/100 fell down to 9.4 [but was still good overall].

    The second Houston season was when Lin’s playmaking numbers dipped the most [and to no surprise], it was mainly because of his use WITHIN THE HOUSTON SCHEME. Though on paper, Lin played PG in 89% of his minutes, he actually WAS NOT initiating the offense from the PG position during most possessions. This was because the primary playmaker was Harden, followed by split secondary options of Chandler Parsons on the perimeter + Dwight Howard on the low-block. In this sense, Lin became a FOURTH OPTION PLAYMAKER on that Houston team, and on top of that, he was given a role SPECIFICALLY to become more of a scoring option off of the bench. When factoring in these dynamics, it makes sense that Lin’s A/100 fell into a CAREER LOW at the time. However, THIS DID NOT MEAN that Lin was regressing in playmaking ability — but rather that his role on the team and his opportunities to playmake were just shifted into a realm where he had less opportunities to frequently to playmake. Additionally [to Lin’s fewer opportunities to playmake], Jeremy also chose to focus more on individual scoring that season, since he was meant to be a scoring punch off the bench, [which limited his playmaking opportunities, but increased his own personal chances to get buckets].

    As a reflection of Jeremy’s actual ability to playmake [proving that he did — in fact — NOT REGRESS…], the next season when Lin played in LA, he played 95% of the time at PG. For roughly a third of the season, Lin was [usually…] the SECONDARY option in the starting lineup [behind a VERY ball-dominant Kobe Bryant]. Then after Kobe’s injury, he alternated between [usually… first/second] options off of the Lakers bench. To no surprise of these events [Lin returning to a position of higher priority in terms of initiating the offense], Lin’s A/100 returned to 9.1 [comparable to his first Houston season with a ball-dominant Harden]. Watching this season, I was actually very impressed with Lin’s overall playmaking performance, because unlike that Houston team, the Lakers ran a Princeton offense that clogged driving lanes, and lacked shooters [that first Houston team was ranked first in 3PA]. This meant that Lin was playmaking despite tighter driving lanes, and a system that itself closed driving lanes down [Note: It helped A TON, that Ed Davis [an elite PnR Big] got some opportunities to play with Lin, as well].

    So now all of that history leads us to this season. But let’s review…

    – 11.8A/100 as the primary playmaker in a spread offense [playing PG].
    – Close to 9A/100 as a secondary option in a spread offense [playing PG].
    – Close to 9A/100 as a secondary option in a half-court offense [playing PG]. *Note: This is more impressive than the previous statement because of the difference in offensive schemes
    – Close to 7A/100 as a fourth option in a spread offense.

    So before the season began, I figured Lin would be around 7A/100 again based on his historical performances. This is because he would probably be taking playmaking duties BEHIND; Kemba Walker, Nicolas Batum & Al Jefferson.

    This would’ve made Lin a fourth option again, so a simple estimate for his playmaking numbers would be to expect something close to his second Houston season.

    However [as of today], Lin is at 5.7A/100 instead of 7.1A/100. So is this concerning…? To me, it isn’t [once we consider scheme, roster, etc].

    For example, though both that Houston team and this Hornet’s team are spread offenses that run a ton of PnR, a large portion of why I attribute Lin being down 1.4A/100 is because Lin’s roll partners on this team are HORRIBLE FINISHERS. Zeller + Kaminsky are below average/average finishers, and Hawes [shudder] is one of the worst finishers in the league. It seems obvious to me that that trio’s underwhelming finishing ability vs Dwight Howard/Terrance Jones’ elite finishing ability would create a huge gap that would cover most of that 1.4A/100 difference.

    Secondly, [concerning “regressing” playmaking ability], is the fact that Lin doesn’t even play at PG [and as a main-initiator] most of the time [as stated once before]. He usually starts off in one of the corners, and the primary playmaker will either be Kemba or Batum. The Hornets love to run a variation of Horns — essentially running a Pick N’ Roll on one side, then immediately swinging to the other side to run another Pick N’ Roll. The two PnRs are run by Kemba or Batum usually, and then if both options fail; the team usually only does one of the three following options…

    – Run horns variation again in reverse [Lin might replace one of Kemba/Batum if he swaps places on a cut to the top of the key]
    – Kemba/Batum isolate from their established positions
    – Lin cuts to the top of the key, and either isolates/calls for his own PnR

    Whatever happens [by looking at the options above], it’s clear that within the scheme of the team, Lin is not designated to be EITHER the Primary playmaker OR Secondary playmaker of the team. He’s treated as the release valve for pressure, and when he’s in a position to facilitate as an actual primary/secondary playmaker WHILE playing at PG [usually as the bench PG in the 4ish minutes Kemba sits], Clifford loves to run a TON of curl plays for the Bench SG [Lamb usually, Daniels last night]. Lin gets some of his assists on curl plays, but even so, he’s really just waiting to make a straight pass, so it doesn’t LOOK TO THE EYE like Lin is making some amazing play even if he does get an assist [as opposed to a Lin drive + dish to Ed Davis for the dunk, etc].

    Additionally, I’d argue [through watching the Hornets games], that the curls the Hornets run aren’t actually that effective [in the first place], and they’d be better off with a Lin PnR more often than not. I think this would actually result in more points per possession, [and simultaneously boost Lin’s stats/the eye test on Lin], but that’s just not how the Hornets want to do things. Concerning the previous point; another point to note is that the Hornets bigs are weak screen setters [along with finishers], so the whole product of fluidity on PnRs is seriously lacking in many areas; from the initial screen, to the roll, and to the finish. I mention this because often, the Hornets’ PnR plays look to be somewhat busted early in the play due to a weak screen. Obviously, this isn’t really Lin’s [or the other PnR initiators — Kemba + Batum’s] fault, but it still makes them all [and Lin] “look bad” to the eye test quite frequently.

    Here are some other closing notes; I still think Lin is the best playmaker on this team in a vacuum [as in, he has the most playmaking skills overall — in general and on most spots of the floor]. However, on this Hornets team, Lin is actually not the most effective playmaker [that would be Batum]. This is because the Hornets are a heavy [BUT POOR SCREEN SETTING] PnR team. Because of this, the Hornets’ screens are busted often [the ball handler’s defender can effectively fight through the screen], and once the screen is busted [allowing the ball-handler to be blitzed/trapped], Batum has the most ability to compensate against the incoming pressure because of his height and length. To simplify, even though the Hornets’ busted screen has caused their ball-handler [Kemba/Lin/Batum] to retreat, the roll by the big still occurs [it’s more like a slip screen at this point… though not on purpose…], and Batum with his vision + length can find the roller [This is why Cody Zeller’s stats are so much better with Batum in the game — Zeller sets a weak screen [bad play…] and his man doubles onto Nic [usually the right move for the defense], but then Zeller gets a layup/dunk anyway on the broken play because Nic can retreat from the trap and find Zeller OVER THE TOP OF THE DEFENSE — because of his height — something Kemba/Lin do not have the luxury to do].

    Also of note, Lin’s FGA per 100 is the highest since Linsanity [18.0FGA], and it has been trending upward for the last THREE SEASONS. He is clearly looking to score more often than he does to facilitate, and the trend is established even more firmly if you’ve watched him play over his career. This trend also ties in, and reflects onto, why his A/100 is at a career low [he’s being more aggressive with his own scoring, and relying less on playmaking on this particular team, since he has confidence in his scoring ability]. I approve of this mentality for a number of reasons regarding the evolution of Lin’s offensive game, but I won’t get into it since this post is so long already. Additionally, I also approve of erring on the side of individual scoring rather than playmaking for this specific team, because the Hornets’ bench lacks shooters + finishers [Spencer Hawes…], so Lin would get more return from his own buckets rather than his from potential dimes wasted on teammates [Spencer Hawes… Hairston…]. Also another note on FGA/100, is that it is only truly conceptualized with all the things we discussed when looking at A/100. You have to factor in team fit, roster, etc. Lin being at 18.0 FGA/100 vs 17.5 FGA/100 with the Lakers is actually much more impressive in terms to his aggressiveness to get his own shot. You may say, “But it’s only a .5 FGA difference!” — but Lin was a first/second option on those Lakers’ teams at times. On the Hornets, Lin is a third option (now that Jefferson is down). If Lin was a first/second option on this Hornets team, his FGA/100 would very likely be above 20 FGA, and it would more accurately reflect the increased aggressiveness he has implemented in finding his own shot.

  • JoeTeam

    Then I see why people are posting the breakdown. To me it was obvious, it’s not JLin’s man and you don’t give up the 3 in the corner so Cody had to cheat a bit. KW getting screened so easily is the problem. JLin is always able to chase and funnel his guy, so it’s not so easy.

  • Brent Yen

    Happy new year!….just being busy