G33 OKC @CHA Game Thread

Will JLin play? He was still seen limping in the TOR game so let’s hope he rests his ankle until he is 100%. He simply can’t afford to have lingering injury this season. Besides he won’t be able to help the Hornets much if he can’t run well.

  • In 2 games absence, Jeremy Lin’s missing impact on defense is truly felt. The Hornets gave up the season record 122 points in a loss followed by being outscored 30-12 in the 4th quarter against the Raptors. The Hornets has slipped further to #10 in Eastern Conference Standing so they can’t afford slipping further.
  • But OKC has 8W-2L record in the last 10 so it will be very difficult opponent to beat tonight

Let’s go, Hornets!


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MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 34 vs GSW
  • GoJLin!

    First!

  • Rick Johnson

    No Lin no win.

  • sws94

    We’ll see, haven’t heard any updates. Seems like OKC always beats the Hornets anyway.

  • GoJLin!

    Yes, Hornets can’t afford slipping further but unfortunately their next two games (against Thunder & Warriors) are pretty hard to win, anyway, wish JLIN speeding recover!

  • OKC is at full strength with 8W-2L record in the last 10 games so having a less than 100% JLin might not help much.

    OKC won the last 9 matchups against the Hornets (holding the Hornets under 100 in 8 of them). Ouch!
    http://www.nba.com/games/20160102/OKCCHA/gameinfo.html

  • GoJLin!

    According TORONTO, Jan. 1 (Xinhua) report: “Lin’s 11.1 points per game average ranks second in the Eastern Conference among qualified players, trailing teammate Jeremy Lamb’s 11.3 points per game.” But I check the record for this season’s total 30 games he played (25.5 min avg); his average is 11.8 Pts/3.1 Asts/3.2 Reb/0.7 STL/0.8 BS with 42.8% FGM_A, 33.3% 3PM_A and 78.2% FTM. I think his contribution are much higher then J Lamb.

  • Epie
  • Dorothy

    Finally, we will not see Ref. Crawford much longer. Whew!!!
    http://www.shopversona.com/versona/crochet-inset-slub-knit-top-18306

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Did Lin practiced or did he participate in shoot-around?

  • Spot

    And he will wear a nice dress too!

  • DX

    Still no official news for Lin?

  • Epie

    Finally “the” clip..
    Sneaky.. but looks intentional.

    https://twitter.com/jlinnation/status/682135497112616960

  • KHuang

    Jeremy Lamb is a fine young player who is likely learning a lot from Jeremy Lin.

    Lamb will never be the elite defender and shot creator and court reader that Lin is, but he doesn’t need to be.

  • BobbyH

    When I re-examined the video again, I noticed Lin’s reaction. First, he lift his left foot before Kobe tried hard enough to step on the foot. Second, he looked at Kobe as if Kobe did something unusual.

    Just my interpretation. But when you pull people up in a NBA court, do you step on the puller’s foot to gain the leverage up? Just wondering.

  • Spot

    Without Jeremy, Lamb will be as useless and marginalized as he was in OKC

  • Rick Johnson

    I would think if a smaller player is helping up a heavier one you’d need to brace your foot against the puller’s foot to gain leverage. Also looks like Kobe catches JLin as he looks like he’s about to fall. Grabs his back and chest, then pats him on back of head. Other videos shows him later wiping hands on shorts, probably hair is sticky.

  • BobbyH

    OKC is hot and ready. It is going to be a long and ugly game tonight.

  • Rick Johnson

    infinity88‏@linfinity88

    tony.truong11: Bringing the swarm all the way from Cambridge for @jlin7 #linsanity #kaminsky

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/683395062877667329

  • martan267

    I really do think it was intentional to hurt Lin. This kind of malice is just sociopathic.

  • Epie

    I wonder too, but either way, stepping on ankle doesn’t look right.

  • Rick Johnson

    But it’s the right ankle that’s injured:

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/683395159233441792

  • Epie

    Yes, we all know it’s his right ankle which was hurt. This is a different issue.

  • KHuang

    How FUN.

    Lin kicked Kobe’s butt in the game and then picked him up off the floor. No wonder Kobe felt hurt and LINTIMIDATED.

    It’s almost like the old ABA days when a guy would elbow another player in the mouth to knock out his teeth and then reach down to pick the guy up.

    Ironically, Kobe probably finally respects Lin now.

  • Rick Johnson

    Looks like he was walking okay without a limp after Toronto game:

    https://youtu.be/GWE8C5SNqzU

  • BobbyH

    We will see when Hornets meets Lakers again in LA. Just hope so.

  • Epie

    Hopefully he plays tonight!!

  • BobbyH

    A little limp to me.

  • Spot

    He better stays healthy. They will lose anyway. Walker can’t contain Westbrook

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Seem like lin will be game time decision. If that’s the case he will most likely play but not many minutes. Just my guess.

  • JoeTeam

    nope, it’s just physics. Try picking up a 200# bag of jelly and then try picking up a rod of the same weight. Be right over that weight. Now, consider picking up a barbell set that is 200# by leaning over one end and pulling back. It will nutmeg you. You will put you foot at the other end to create a lever.

    That’s what Kobe did – I wish people would stop changing physics and good intents by both people into a Star Wars epic fight over the Dark Side vs the Force. Just use the force, physics-wise.

  • JoeTeam

    no way see physics above.

  • JoeTeam

    yes you do, I’ve done it in soccer with cleats. It’s better then getting pulling into a guy’s crotch, nobody wants that lol.

    BTW, if it’s unusual, it’s because Kobe is so old and creaky he cannot get good strength to grip the floor itself as it would take more leg power, so he’s doing what old people do – use levers/leverage more to get buy.

  • CJSHYY

    Really? What make you think Lin is game time decision? Check this.

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/683339536437481472

  • JoeTeam

    cool!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s 8 hrs ago twitter.

  • Rick Johnson

    Exactly. Rather than trying to lift that weight and hurt your back, you brace the feet to create a fulcrum and then you can stand upright and use your weight and leverage to counter-weight and help the other person up. Just looked like those Adidas lost traction (which we’ve seen on the court SMH) and slipped.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Nets J Jack broke knee. Waiting for update.

  • JoeTeam

    good on ya, mate! To me this emo is confounding because it’s just physics and creaky bones by Kobe, so whatever. The battle between JLin and Kobe on the court, starting with Linsanity where JLin forced kobe to brick from behind the backboard is more awesome to talk about. Jlin is winning, a lot to do with the age difference but also morally and also by being just a more calm bball IQ guy. I think in Kobe’s prime, he would not have won over JLin either, much like how JLin handles CP3, Conley, etc all the gunslingers that come into town lol.

  • tom

    Yah either way its easier to extend one leg to get up
    try it youll see

  • JoeTeam

    wow, he’s a good journeyman.

  • LinMad

    is Lin playing today?

  • tom

    i dont think they can afford to limit his minutes tonight unless a blow out

  • sws94

    No official injury report was posted today.

  • CJSHYY

    So he will play then…?

  • sws94

    I don’t know.

  • DX

    Really don’t like game decision.

  • LinMad

    i read your response wrong and got bummed out. Thought you said “No, official injury report was posted today.”

  • Acbc

    I really have no comment on the intent but you know that’s the kind of thing you do as get too old to pick yourself up. A supple youngster would just bounce right up like nothing had happen.

    Kinda like the ad ” I’ve fallen and I can’t get up”.

  • LinMad

    its to make Lin look weak. lol jk, I think it was unintentional. I think Kobe did it to get his balance.

  • David Ly
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not bad for a guess.

  • David Ly

    Batum is out, so maybe that’s an incentive for Lin to play since he had his 35 point outburst the last time he was out.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin will play then….

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Rick Johnson

    Talk about mismatch:

    Charlotte Hornets PR
    ‏@HornetsPR
    With Batum out Clifford says that @hornets PJ Hairston will start guarding OKC’s Durant. Will also have M Williams guard him too. #OKCatCHA

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/683412657723019265

  • David Ly

    Haha yeah good guess. I thought you had inside information.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lol. I wish.

  • CJSHYY

    I think most likely Lin will play tonight.

  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    If Lin plays I hope they can beat OKC. BTW, who is OKC starting SG? Is he good?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    My second guess that lin will play.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Westbrook will be the shooting guard too.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! True. LOL!

  • LinMad

    why is Batum out?

  • LinMad

    ohhhh ya

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    toe

  • I am The Jason

    If Lin is not playing tonight, I foresee the OKC starters resting in the 4th qtr tonight. If Lin plays, maybe the Hornets has a shot at winning.

  • LinMad

    he seems to be out a lot

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin will show the people again that he’s the Hornets’ best player.

  • TTNN

    oh, I don’t like that Lin will be rushed back to play, and he will most likely play heavy minutes. This month is tough, 3 more back to backs. Will be hard for Lin. 🙁

  • tom

    nope some no name

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Pray that JLin is healing enough to play. Don’t want him to get further injury because he is needed to play. Can’t watch the game at all. Pray that if he does play, he plays well.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Not really a lot.

  • Epie
  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    I don’t like it either but I think he will play tonight.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Trust his decision.

  • Rick Johnson
  • khomphuong2

    No Nic Batum tonight, Jeremy Lin will start in his place #Hornets.— SportsFromMyEyes (@JTyree704) January 2, 2016

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    In Lin we trust. If he says he can play then it must be.

  • LinMad

    YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • tom

    Lol Batum got scared of Durant

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin knows WBrooks very well.

  • Alain Gervais

    yessssssssssssssssss

  • Alain Gervais

    omg what a happy day

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • tom

    Nah westbrook is scary i dont want Lin getting injured again
    Let Kemba get destroyed by him lol

  • Rick Johnson

    Need team play and a good floor General to pick apart OKC. Not going to beat them chucking. Kemba should let JLin lead the charge. (but of course he won’t).

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin will play. I am happy for them

  • sws94

    Nobody is stopping Westbrook. Lin can do his best to force him into uncomfortable shots.. I don’t like him much but he’s very athletic.

  • kauaiblue

    Some posters said they were going… great news for all of us! Game report please!

  • kauaiblue

    Who r these ladies? From taiwan?

  • heart

    A prayer for Lin on his first game of the new year 2016: Dear Lord, may you protect Jeremy Lin and his team today. And may you be glorified!

  • sws94

    Lin is playing, but he may not be his normal self. Cliff should be real careful about his minutes.

  • Epie

    I pray he doesn’t get injured again tonight

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    These are the ladies from Jeremy Only Lin Gardens, Taiwan. They are going to 6 JLin games. They didn’t see JLin play last game. Glad that they are able to watch JLin play today:-)

  • tom

    I still think Durant is a better player

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You’re a true fan.

    Glad you didn’t mess up with the year 2015. lol

  • sws94

    I agree. Coming back and playing limited minutes yes. But playing on a maybe not quite right ankle and starting against a real tough opponent, I’m hoping for the best and that he doesn’t hurt himself any worse than he is hurt now. However he plays is secondary.

  • TTNN

    not sure about that, Batum game time decision got 40 min nights two games in a roll. Coach will count on him both defensively and offensively, I’m really worried.

  • Ben Johnson

    For tonight, the risk is worth the potential reward

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Came early to lineup……

    Respect!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Some from LA.

  • sws94

    I don’t like it. Batum is getting an MRI after going 40 minutes in Wednesday and Friday game. If he plays, you’re right, Lin may be looking at close to 40 minutes also.

  • sws94

    I don’t think so. It’s one game and it is a long season and career in front of him.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I don’t like it but I think Cliff will make Lin play more min for sure.

  • kauaiblue

    Superfans! I bet they r having a blast!

  • TTNN

    not really, Hornets had no chance now. There are lots of things need to clean up, Walker need to change his playing style, Lamb need to play within himself. I don’t think Marvin is 100% yet, nor Hawes.

    I hope they give up OKC and WOR games, and focus on following game. With 2-3 more days, Lin will definitely be better.

  • HY C

    am I remembering correctly?

    in the playoff the first year when Lin was with HOU, Lin got injured in the chest by Sefolosha.
    when Lin returned a few games later, I think KD or RW intentionally hurt Lin again when a timeout was called,

  • sws94

    KD and it was a punk, classless move. Go after Beverley who hurt Westbrook, not Lin.

  • KL

    Beverly hurt Westbrook. But somehow Lin got hurt by KD’s retaliation.

  • sws94

    Cliff doesn’t have a clue what he’s going to do if Lin doesn’t play tonight.

    Ewing said that the Hornets have to try to limit OKC in fast breaks so that means a lot of running for whoever is playing. I don’t like it.

  • sws94

    Without Batum, there’s little chance. With Lin 100 percent, there is some chance if he plays 40 minutes or so.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! You are right I don’t think Cliff really knows what to do now all he wants just to get a W… smh! I hope Lin gets good stats …. & W…..

  • sws94

    He said that in the pre-game interview. He said Lin will try to play and if he does he’s starting. Asked what he’ll do if Lin can’t start he said I don’t know, I’d have to come up with something.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it should be he can’t play not he can’t start…. Well, looks like he will try everything he can to push Lin to play.

  • TTNN

    Not sure there is anything that he could come up with with the remaining roster.

    Look at yesterday’s 4Q, I almost fainted when he was playing Kemba/Lamb/Robert together…..

  • sws94

    They are I think. I think they are treating and taping up his ankle for him to go big minutes.

    He said Batum’s toe was swollen and discolored and he wasn’t himself in the last 2 games. He didn’t say playing made it worse but I think that’s very possible.

  • sws94

    He has to start Lamb and put him on the weakest offensive player that’s near his height. Other alternative is Frank but not at the 2.

  • CJSHYY

    See, Cliff made them played too long min on court for so many games. That’s not good… I guess today Lin will do the same too.

  • sws94

    Yes. Lin really hasn’t played too many minutes but Batum and Kemba are. But more and more, Lin is playing a lot of minutes. In game where Batum was out, Lin plays 47 minutes in 1 OT game.

  • rookie75094

    Nooooooooo…I rather Jlin sit out or play limited minutes.

  • spiderman

    I’d rather see Lin not play and heal up

  • sws94

    It’s official. Lin is playing. Stephanie Ready tweeted he is.

  • Hope

    Lin is playing. He must be good to go.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too but I think Lin will play.

  • sws94

    Well, let’s pray for the best. He’s playing.

  • sws94

    I think more he’s patched and taped up. Let’s pray for the best that he doesn’t get injured further.

  • Alain Gervais
  • Hope

    Alright jlin , let’s go get 40+pts this time.

  • Rick Johnson

    Cliff getting desperate. They are at 10th place now 2 spots out of playoff contention.

  • Dan Ang

    Yes Lin Yes Win!

  • CJSHYY
  • spiderman

    Not the worst thing when team misutilizes their best player even when he’s available

  • JoeTeam

    Stand in the corner and shoot threes.

  • JoeTeam

    Clap clap!!

  • CJSHYY

    Celtics lose to Nets today. Hope Cliff can relax a little bit now.

  • David Ly

    Based on the excitement from Stephanie Ready and Coach Cliff’s words, I think him sitting out and Hornet’s losing two games has boosted Lin’s value to the team.

  • heart

    Pregame broadcast: Dell Curry said KW should take at least 25+ shots to have a chance tonight?

  • Hope

    Lmao

  • CJSHYY

    What? Still tried hard to push his ASG value now? smh! All I care it’s for Lin to stay healthy & gets good stats.

  • sws94

    That is not impossible. That would be awesome.

  • Hope

    Linn should have 20+/10+ to have a chance.

  • heart

    Surprised too. Thought he’d advocate sharing the ball and defense.

  • CJSHYY

    No, that’s the job for Lin… maybe Cliff will ask Lin to guard RW. smh!

  • heart

    Yep. Lin should also take as many shots available bc NB only took 9 shots last night while KW took 21 shots. Dell noted that bc KW took only 21 shots, he should take more tonight…to have a chance.

  • kauaiblue

    If that happens, guarantee loss…

  • sws94

    I don’t agree with Dell. Kemba with 20 shots may even be too many. If he gets a lot of FTs that’s good. Lin too. Kemba shooting too much means the team isn’t playing teamball.

  • kauaiblue

    Wha? As if 4 more shots wouldve made a difference… he shot 21 times!

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    Sounds like they don’t plan to do so….

  • heart

    exactly… don’t know why and what he was thinking…

  • kauaiblue

    I just lost a lot of respect for dell curry… hes not so smart…

  • cshot

    did dell really say that lol? maybe he didn’t get the message that jeremy was starting and available to play haha

  • occupatio

    lin playing despite not being 100%. mixed feelings for sure, but im def excited.

  • CJSHYY

    Or maybe Cliff just wanted Lin to help Kemba to guard RW so Kemba can take as many shots as he wants…

  • kauaiblue

    20 should be too much? Should be more like 12…

  • heart

    He said it. I was surprised too. You maybe right he probably didn’t get the memo… Don’t know..

  • kauaiblue

    Walker chucking? Great strategy…

  • LinMad

    3rd start for Lin this season. If he does really well I think Cliff should think about starting him for good.

  • Lin Win

    I just hope Clifford doesn’t switch Lin onto Westbrook. It’ll be a disaster!
    PJ on Durant is a 40+ point game in the making.

  • sws94

    These are injury starts. If Batum was playing, he wouldn’t be starting. However, if he has a big game…

  • Lin Win

    Somewhere someplace Batum is crying

  • sws94

    Why would it be a disaster? I don’t think Kemba can do anything with Westbrook. Lin can make him work harder.

  • Alain Gervais

    woooooooooooooooo

  • Lin Win

    Kemba is fast lateral so he’ll at least be able to stop drives. I just hope Kemba is good at fighting off screens.

  • Lam

    Lin’s is probably not fully fit yet so I think it will be likely be a “meh” performance. He was still limping yesterday as reported by people here.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin on westbrooke

  • Lin Win

    Steven Adams!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lin Win

    LOL Durant already using the advantage on PJ

  • Epie

    Come on.. Lin was wide open

  • Lin Win

    haha Pj Blocked on a 3 by Durant.
    No more 3s for you!

  • Alain Gervais

    No foul calls

  • blubell

    Nice block MW

  • blubell

    Awww. So close…

  • Alain Gervais

    This is tough for Lin right off injury. we will have to fight for this one

  • BeastModeCowboy

    COME ON LIN SHOW YOUR GAME!

  • It was going to be a nice bank shot; rattling a few times but in and out 🙁

  • CJSHYY

    As I thought Cliff asked Lin to guard RW not Kemba?! smh!

  • LinMad

    so far Westbrook is getting what he wants

  • Lin Win

    Told you guys Lin can’t guard Westbrook on the drive.

  • Epie

    well he touched the ball like 4 times total. Let him control the ball

  • CJSHYY

    He’s not 100% yet…

  • BeastModeCowboy

    no one can guard Westbrook ….

  • LinMad

    he needs help

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Westbrook is unguardable.. if you think Lin can stop him well no one can

  • cshot

    That and I think he’s trying to avoid early fouls

  • sws94

    He’s a tough matchup for anyone.

  • Lin Win

    Add a screen on Lin and it’s an open drive. Clifford NEEDS Kemba on Westbrook.

  • Alain Gervais

    westbrooke will win some times. just need to make it tough. which lin did

  • Lin Win

    …No! You don’t avoid early fouls for an open drive

  • Lin Win

    At least Kemba on Lateral movement has a chance.

  • Epie

    Just trying to avoid early fouls

  • gandychan

    Lin has to protect the baseline. he got juked

  • heart

    Thunders guys are bigger and taller than Hornets. They play angry to show up on Hornets. Our guys need to be more aggressive to contest their shots, but they are not 100% healthy.

  • LinMad

    good tap by Lin

  • Lin Win

    Dude Lin has no fouls

  • LinMad

    Russell kind of plays like how Lin plays on offensive if he had a big that can dunk. Russell is the attack the rim type like Lin.

  • Epie

    Who said he has fouls

  • blubell

    222

  • CaliUSMC

    2222222

  • LinMad

    2222222222, i hate the camera angle tho

  • Lin Win

    Russell is gifted with a good body. Lin lacks that which is why he is easier to guard. You don’t have to worry about dunks!

  • Alain Gervais

    yea

  • LinMad

    we get killed by PnR

  • Alain Gervais

    no fouls today

  • blubell

    Refs….

  • Lin Win

    I can’t watch Durant is eating PJ alive. Double team Durant and they get an open shot on a PnR.

  • LinMad

    we need 2 on westbrook

  • cshot

    what’s it take for lin to get more touches lol?

  • CJSHYY

    They will not win this game bc Kemba is in charge the O not Lin. smh!

  • JJ Hui

    KW is a train wreck! The Thunder commentator said he couldnt handle ……lol

  • Lin Win

    getting free first.

  • blubell

    22222222

  • CaliUSMC

    222222

  • Epie

    Lin!!

  • LinMad

    good D by Lin and a 22222

  • Lin Win

    Man Durant already 9 points in a quarter! 40+ points for sure!

  • zxcvb

    Lin completely smothered Westbrook. Even with Lin’s ankle, RW needs a screen.

  • zxcvb

    Here come the refs. Russ got smothered again by Lin, bailed out by refs.

  • blubell

    Nice of CHA to praise Jeremy’s D

  • Lin Win

    See! Another easy PnR from Westbrook and Lin bites.

  • LinMad

    Nice assiust !

  • Lin assist to Hairston 3!

  • blubell

    Assist!

  • cshot

    lets go

  • Great job by Lin to draw defenders & finding an open Hairston!
    That’s one good PG there

  • Epie

    Although losing by a lot, team play looks way better with Lin on the floor

  • LinMad

    PJ is getting better and better now

  • BeastModeCowboy

    I like Lins aggressiveness.. slow start but he will pick it up

  • LinMad

    agreed, Thunder is just a very hard team.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    When Lin gets to play PG in the 2nd quarter he will tear the OKC defense apart.. just wait

  • cshot

    lol watch. when lin gets 2 fouls and gets benched, lets see what he has to say -_________-

  • sws94

    Westbrook tries to power through Lin, that won’t work. He has great footwork and hops, that’s where he’s a challenge.

  • zxcvb

    They’re coming alive now with Lin handling more than Kemba. Might be too late though.

    Russ getting major ref help, too.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    I already knew Kemba was going to flop this game.. he crumbles against Top Level PGS

  • Lin Win

    6 out of 10 points now for Westbrook being guarded by Lin. Get Lin off westbrook or Lin will be in foul trouble before the 4th

  • JJ Hui

    Exactly! But Cliff is not aware of it or FO politics!

  • LinMad

    not bad, at lesat Lin isn’t in foul trouble

  • Alain Gervais

    westbrooke out Lin out

  • What a Head Coach say is important

    Announcer #1: “You think not having Lin contributed in 2 previous losses”
    Announcer #2: “Coach Clifford thinks so .. missing his defense”

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Ok Lin getting his rest so he can go HAM in the 2nd quarter

  • LinMad

    Lamb is gonna get beat

  • Lin Win

    It’s bad… 3-5 for Westbrooke

  • zxcvb

    Eh. Fake bailout FTs and good screens. Lin ate his lunch twice already on a bad ankle.

    Besides, Russ is great! No one can guard him when he’s hot.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    come on hornets just dont lose it in these 2 last minutes.. Lin will be back soon to save the day

  • BeastModeCowboy

    omg already 15 pt lead come on hornets dont lose it

  • LinMad

    What’s Thunder’s FG%? I bet it’s higher than 80%

  • LinMad

    Tyler coming in, we need him to be physical

  • BeastModeCowboy

    omg Kemba being torched by a rookie PG really

  • BeastModeCowboy

    PJ having himself a game!

  • blubell

    Jeremy is not 100%…

  • JJ Hui

    I hope Lin comes back second quarter to run the point.

  • LinMad

    when Westbrook is out, this is when we really need to catch up

  • BeastModeCowboy

    he will

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Kemba shoots too damn much

  • zxcvb

    Could be worse. Let’s see what Lin can do as PG. Kemba just makes the wrong decisions — drive when he should pass, pass when he should drive,

  • BeastModeCowboy

    7 shots for Kemba already… thats 25 shots for the game

  • cshot

    move the ball plzzzzz

  • LinMad

    maybe he’ll sit more today

  • Lin Win

    2-5 Lin..hmm Hope he ups his FG%
    Don’t think Lin can penetrate this game thanks to Perkins and Adams.

  • LinMad

    he’ll have to trust his jumpshot today and PnRs with Zeller

  • CJSHYY

    He will.

  • Lin Win

    Yeah he needs to rely on jumpshots this game.

  • Lin Win

    13 -3 rebounds
    60 -40 % FG
    my god

  • LinMad

    lol the ball boy

  • Lin Win

    Lin mucked up that play. SHould’ve shot it!

  • sws94

    2 shots were blocked and one was and in and out roll around. Lin’s jumper looks good tonight.

  • blubell

    Lin in

  • blubell

    Stop it.

  • Lin Win

    Stop what?

  • 808JL7

    Lin finally playing PG. let’s go BF1.

  • LinMad

    they’re moving the ball better now, creating space

  • BeastModeCowboy

    COME ON LIN

  • BeastModeCowboy

    MAKE THESE LIN

  • blubell

    Made both 🙂

  • occupatio

    lin with the harden-esque rip through motion

  • LinMad

    why is he standing there lol

  • blubell

    Lin to lamb

  • LinMad

    Lamb plays well when he’s with Lin at point

  • it’s the old BF1!!!

  • blubell

    Nice D

  • JoeTeam

    Cliff TO, means he wants BF1 to get some catchup going. Let’s go Lin.

  • LinMad

    Good D by Lin

  • LinMad

    Nice!!

  • Lin Win

    Finally a good assist play!
    Haven’t seen that when Kemba was in!

  • blubell

    2 fouls 🙁

  • zxcvb

    CHA looking much better. Lin making good decisions, playing good defense.

  • cshot

    frank starting to piss me off lol

  • zxcvb

    Both laughable BS calls.

  • JoeTeam

    that was a terrible 3try.

  • LinMad

    he plays like a guard lol he’s just an oversized guard

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Kaminsky should have passed that wtf… Lin was wide open

  • BeastModeCowboy

    is it me or Frank is passing to Lin less and less

  • Lin Win

    What? 3 from Frank?

  • Alain Gervais

    relax

  • zxcvb

    Lin was wide-open…Frank has to make that if he’s gonna play bad basketball!

  • JoeTeam

    might be you, he’s just green.

  • LinMad

    he has the green light to shoot obviously. Lin needs to focus on D and playmaking.

  • cshot

    did lin do something wrong to him lol? he completely ignores him and never does the handoff passes to lin anymore

  • sws94

    Frank is playing bad basketball today. He’s got to step it up.

  • grover chang

    Lol. What did you expect Lin to do. Shut Westbrook down to single digits. On a bad ankle too?!

  • TTNN

    that’s a bad shot

  • JoeTeam

    it’s contagious 1-1 ball from KW.

  • LinMad

    no, I think Cliff puts Frank in to score buckets. Can’t really use him for anything else

  • cshot

    I’m with you lol

  • zxcvb

    If this reffing keeps up, the game is over. Both fouls on Lin were BS. Meanwhile, he’s been hammered 3 times in the paint, only one whistle.

  • LinMad

    finally a foul call. he elbowed Lin

  • NONONO

    Just watching.. lin started?

  • Alain Gervais

    yup

  • blubell

    Yes

  • JoeTeam

    sat a bit when westbrook sat then came in early. Now RW is back too.

  • gueat

    wow, lamb did not want to give up the ball to Lin.

  • How’s Lin’s ankle looking?

  • zxcvb

    With 2 fouls, Lin can’t body up Russ. Needs help.

  • JoeTeam

    stable like a hoverboard?

  • Rick Johnson

    Jee, JLin at PG and they’re closing the gap.

  • zxcvb

    Looks off. Has to settle for jumpers, esp. with ref BS.

  • blubell

    Lol

  • NONONO

    i hope he is 100% healthy. Is he?

  • LinMad

    nice he’s getting FTs

  • NONONO

    Wow. just saw the new hair style

  • blubell

    Made 1

  • zxcvb

    Russ elbows Jeremy in the face and complains. Lin touches someone’s jersey and it’s a foul.

  • Epie

    Everyone wants to be Kemba

  • blubell

    Nice D

  • zxcvb

    Lin’s bigs have missed 2 point-blank shots at the rim.

  • blubell

    That was a great pass tho…

  • zxcvb

    Lin’s passes are wasted on these awful bigs. Can’t even dunk!

  • Alain Gervais

    cant give kimansky an easier shot. why cant we defend the three???

  • LinMad

    they don’t know how to pump fake

  • cshot

    bullet one handed pass only to get blooooooocked

  • BeastModeCowboy

    doesnt look good

  • JoeTeam

    well. good point by announcer BF1 outplaying OKC bench = bonus.

    So far, I’m thinking – OKC are not that good, so it’s about finishing at the rim, playing better team D on RB and KD combo.

  • blubell

    Story of the season…

  • LinMad

    we’re down by 14 now even though we were at 7 one point.

  • Lin Win

    Lin cursed with playing with bad Bigs.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    two straight 3’s

  • occupatio

    asiked

  • LinMad

    ya

  • JoeTeam

    need better team D on RB and KD, and finishes at the rim. I see Kam and Lamb miss their inside moves. JLin missed one FT, so that’s it he has to make the rest and he can get the fouls of he wants.

  • cshot

    give lin a big like tyson, thompson, for christ sake free throw troll deandre and he’ll be an all star lol

  • DX

    This game clearly shows how weak Lin’s teammates.

  • spiderman

    Trying to win with 3 ball in first half

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin gets a rest

  • sws94

    Here’s the problem with the assist stat. Right there. Great, great, great pass by Lin, not converted. SHould have been a QUALITY assist.

  • JoeTeam

    there goes another miss at the rim by lamb. They can’t do that anymore.

  • zxcvb

    Not a single decent big on this team. Everyone struggles to dunk the ball.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    so Kemba is going to guard Westbrook now? good luck with that

  • Good thing we’ve got our 5 fouls.

  • LinMad

    the bigs on this team all play like guards except Tyler. Tyler is physical but not very smart.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Durant wow

  • zxcvb

    KD on fire. Nothing you can do. It’s like a 7-ft Curry.

  • blubell

    7 pts, 2 asts, 14 min

  • JoeTeam

    lamb misses a good midrange look. That’s why we are down. People just not finishing on O end.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Lamb is on westbrook now loll wow

  • zxcvb

    Should be 4 assists if bigs could dunk.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Clifford making more questionable decisions

  • Lin Win

    have we scored more than 6points in the paint from the guards?

  • Lin Win

    haha all ball FOUL!

  • Alain Gervais

    we have 9 rebound for the whole game

  • sws94

    Not good.

  • zxcvb

    Meanwhile, Russ throws an off-target pass to Ibaka, but Serge is able to get FTs anyway.

  • Alain Gervais

    understatement

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Hornets just dont have enough talent.. simple as that

  • JoeTeam

    props to Stephanie Ready as usual … enjoying her call, and of course both of them.”What do you think it will take for Tyler H to redeem his reputation? A summer internship somewhere?” something close to that. Funny.

  • zxcvb

    Not in the frontcourt. Bad screeners, bad rebounders, horrible finishers.

  • Acbc

    I’ve seen Busmark Byonmba consistently stuff balls in with Raptors. He’s just so unbelievably strong. One time there were 2 guys on each side of him and he just muscle it up and flushed it.

  • JoeTeam

    yeah but OKC are not that good so this is weird CHA need to start playing as a team as pros.

  • tom

    Is Lin coming back in or is clifford going back to lamb 6th man bs again?

  • BeastModeCowboy

    no idea

  • grover chang

    Greg Smith even. Miss ED

  • JoeTeam

    I agree, I’m been wishing I recruited BB on my fantasy team.

  • zxcvb

    He does have 2 fouls and a bad ankle.

  • LinMad

    our front court D sucks, that’s why teams like these who do a lot of PnRs murder us

  • blubell

    Well Greg could catch anything with those big hand lol

  • JoeTeam

    That KW 3 attempt was way off hitting like the lip behind the rim. Didn’t even back-iron it.

  • rookie75094

    Lol..Collins jinxed kaminsky

  • BeastModeCowboy

    looks like Lin is done for the half

  • Rick Johnson

    Bad ankle. Maybe trying to not make it worse by playing too much.

  • LinMad

    Sometimes I like Kemba iso, like when it actually works and Lin isn’t on the floor

  • rookie75094

    Durant playing no d…lol

  • tom

    Funny how Batum played 40mins last 2 games while hurt
    but Lin gets special treatment i guess

  • cshot

    wicked hesi from kemba to get to the basket

  • Brewkowski

    But it would help if coaches had their players in their optimal position playing to their strengths.

  • sws94

    He can score, but he doesn’t make the team play well as a team.

  • JoeTeam

    oh yeah, JLin effortlessly gets BF1 back to about 9 or less, and KW has to hero it back from over 15 down. Yeah, keep going and there will be no chance in the last 3 mins. I hate this kind of bball, all that 1-1 effort and you spend it all, then a good team just kills you 5 on 1 when it counts.

  • zxcvb

    It’s good in transition if he keeps it himself. In halfcourt, he makes the wrong decisions.

  • sws94

    Also has 2 fouls. Might as well just sit him and play him more 2nd half.

  • Lin Win

    I hope Lin has the initiative in the 2nd half to step it up and carry the load on his back like what Kemba is doing. No Batum and frankly the team sucks.

  • LinMad

    agreed but I’m just tired of seeing our bigs fail close to the rim. Sometimes I’d rather see Lin or Kemba penetrate and score.

  • JoeTeam

    who knows, different injuries.

  • LinMad

    agreed

  • sws94

    There’s a difference between carrying the scoring load and directing plays leading to good chances for scoring.

  • CJSHYY

    I think OKC will try full power in 2nd half… KD & RW all shot less in 1st half.

  • LinMad

    it’s also that they are playing against Thunder

  • guest

    Wheres the off ball movement, cuts to the rim, pnr…only passing on the perimeter is not going to get it done. OK defense is too good to just go 1-1.

  • LinMad

    and playing D

  • Guest

    Thunder is just a lot better team than hornets. There is not much Lin can do, just play hard, practice your moves and shots.

  • rookie75094

    Kaminski rebounding with his eyes…smh

  • Lin Win

    Lin only has 2 ast in one half.

  • LinMad

    We can’t get a rebound…Frank doesn’t even jump for it

  • LinMad

    lol i noticed that too

  • rookie75094

    And just fell over…so soft

  • sws94

    Big deal. Look at the pass he made to Kaminsky that wasn’t converted. Assist totals don’t tell the whole story. He’s getting in the paint and getting guys good looks. It’s up to them to convert them.

  • LinMad

    why do we keep leaving someone open at the 3

  • Hope

    Weird, Charlotte might have a chance.

  • Lin Win

    Props to Kemba! 50% FG
    We aren’t getting blown out before the half.

  • LinMad

    Phantom foul..

  • Lin Win

    Because we are trying to stop the drive from Durant

  • JoeTeam

    KW Hero ball, the follow up leaves CHA handling 5 on 3 in transition. I’m sure there are people who know bball better then us here, right?

  • JoeTeam

    no, he is not orchestrating any proper team offense.

  • tom

    Lin doesnt look happy on the bench

  • Lin Win

    He’s scoring 50% ! It’s good enough!

  • sws94

    Sometimes Lin can shoot more. He did a good balance of the two. I don’t think he passed up shots in this game.

  • rookie75094

    That bald ref looks like a skin head

  • JoeTeam

    no, the flow of the game is all OKC. This team is out of this game right now, and it’s just a guy scoring. Nobody else is in the game.

  • heart

    Troy is on the floor to shoot 3, but he has not touched the rock. KW should find ways to pass him the ball.

  • sws94

    For now. If he can sustain it, that gamble works. But then it becomes all Kemba in the Kemba show and if they key in on him, can he get others involved?

  • Lin Win

    Another FTs from Kemba. Whatever he’s doing it’s at least working.

  • Lin Win

    He’s the only playmaker on the team.

  • cshot

    think cliff wants lin to come in and lead the bench. thats his best bet to get the game even again

  • JoeTeam

    No, CHA is down by 14 and KW is the guy at the helm of that. Bball is a team game.

  • Lin Win

    That was the easiest PnR I’ve ever seen

  • LinMad

    Kemba on fire

  • occupatio

    who is guarding ibaka now?

  • Alain Gervais

    more like whose fouling ibaka

  • Lin Win

    we were down 14 when Lin was in.
    Remember the 2 from westbrook and 2 3s?

  • LinMad

    Lamb?

  • BeastModeCowboy

    15 shots for Kemba.. hes on pace for 30 shots this game.. Hornets will not win playing this way

  • tom

    but Lamb to finish off the half

  • JoeTeam

    that’s the best bet for CHA to get close, and then KW will lead it to a loss. It’s crystal clear now, he causes the game to become KW time. No chance to beat OKC like that.

  • sws94

    I think that’s only due to Lin’s ankle and that he didn’t want Lin to get a 3rd foul. Since Kemba heated up, he could get away with sitting Lin.

  • Alain Gervais

    Cliff did a good job not playing lin too much yet still allowing him to play with the bench

  • JoeTeam

    he brought it back. With misses by Lamb and Kam, with PG usage really much less than his time initiating. JLin is as I said effortlessly able to get the team to warm up to team play. KW effortlessly kills all team play, and then the game is over.

  • Lin Win

    We might have a chance if Lin’s jumpshot is good and joins the party.

  • occupatio

    its unusual that lin doesnt get to close out the 2nd quarter. esp since batum is out.

  • CJSHYY

    Bc he’s not 100% recover yet… it’s good for him.

  • TTNN

    Well, Lin is not 100%

  • LinMad

    probably has to do with his ankle injury

  • BeastModeCowboy

    how do you know that was the reason he didnt finish the 2nd quarter??

  • BeastModeCowboy

    how do you know that?

  • Sundown

    Need to rest while Kemba on floor. Not enough playmakers. He’ll finish the 4th though, if it’s not a blowout.

  • JoeTeam

    Should be a good 2nd half when JLin helms BF1 to see of they can close the gap. Then it’s a question if Lin feels it in his ankle, if he gets the time, and if KW doesn’t iso it to a loss. Still looking good based on Lin’s first half play. Keys on how Lin feels and now much KW will play team ball.

  • CJSHYY

    Thanks to KD & RW didn’t take lots of shots yet…. But so far, I like Lin’s min. Kemba maybe will take 30 shots today.

  • grover chang

    What? Are you a Lin fan or a troll. Lin is the best playmaker on the team. Calling walker a playmaker is a stretch.

  • grover chang

    He also cut it to 7.

  • sws94

    That was a mistake by Cliff. He’s handling Lin more responsibly.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Kemba will be in charge the O not Lin in 2nd half. Not sure there will have lots of time for 2nd unit.

  • Epie

    Just ignore him. He’s a known troll.

  • occupatio

    this chinese circus performer on the unicycle is something.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    always whenever Lin is in town

  • grover chang

    THx. I’m surprised to find him here. Normally mods get rid of the trolls.

  • JoeTeam

    ah well, then it’s over and everyone will say RW and KD are awesome. But we know this game was lost on lack of team D, finishing at the rim by Kam and Lamb, and KW iso.

  • heart

    KW can’t win the game by himself. He needs to involve his teammates when he has help on the floor. Yes, KW can make shots bc he has the rock in his hand most of the times. However, Thunders will allow KW to score as long as he doesn’t involve his teammates, and no one else on Hornets is scoring. Add the math. One person scoring won’t win game. All the more, it’s going be easier for Thunders to save energy on defending other Hornets teammates. Soon enough Hornets teammates will get cold and offense is out of whack. It’s about control tempo, tactical strategy, and many more. Hope to see more team ball…

  • NONONO

    How many times Lin attack the rim? It might tell if he is closed to 100% healthy.

  • Alain Gervais

    lol lin creating jobs

  • JoeTeam

    skill …

  • tom

    3-4 times
    more than usual

  • sws94

    Good post.

  • NONONO

    sounds good.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think KD & RW didn’t really play full power yet for 1st half… They will win for sure.

  • heart

    thanks.

  • tom

    but wasnt allowed to play
    Clifford favored Lamb over Lin it seems

  • JoeTeam

    just letting the line run out a bit, getting the iso guys on CHA tired like fish. It’s so easy to see, you see it.

  • sws94

    Doesn’t seem that way at all to me. Lin is the one starting.

  • John Focker

    Westbrook only took ten while Kemba took 15, shows you how bad the statpadder wants to make All Star while ignoring team’s record.

  • LinMad

    I think Cliff just wants Lin to rest

  • CJSHYY

    No bc Lin is not really fully recover yet… Plus Lin had 2 fouls.

  • Briiick

    For many seasons, opponents have allowed KB to shoot his team to the ground.

  • adele

    You can replace Stephanie Ready. Heart your analysis is great.

  • JoeTeam

    You read it just like me, there is no hope to beat OKC playing indiv ball. OKC are not that great these days, but they can beat you many ways. CHA has show they can win team ball, but they’ve fallen away from it. Even Harden or LeBron cannot win a 1 guy show. Don’t get why CHA cannot coach it, it’s so clear.

  • heart

    thanks, Adele.

  • CJSHYY

    Last few min all you saw it’s only Kemba no one else… glad Lin didn’t have to watch on court… LOL!

  • Alain Gervais

    assist

  • occupatio

    i can see why ewing has never been promoted. he really can’t communicate.

  • Lin Win

    But we lost to back to 14 when he’s in.

  • LinMad

    Nicely done! Is RW injured?

  • Alain Gervais

    sound very jamican

  • kauaiblue

    He sounds like hes drunk!

  • LinMad

    RW runs into his own teammate and gets hurt

  • Lin Win

    Are you a troll? I don’t have to praise Lin every time to be considered a Lin fan. Stop being delusional.

    Hornets have 3 players: Walker, Batum and Lin!

  • TTNN

    got blocked 2 times already

  • tom

    He better not…

  • occupatio

    he has to overclock just to finish a sentence.

  • Alain Gervais

    33333333

  • JoeTeam

    Team ball!

  • LinMad

    3333333333333

  • LinMad

    ah man thats BS!

  • Lin Win

    Through the legs pass! Nice kemba!

  • sws94

    That’s the type of teamwork I think Lin and Kemba are capable of. Kemba’s shot is on, LIn knows that, finds him while Kemba gets tripped up by his own man, assist. 3 points.

  • sws94

    I agree.

  • LinMad

    wow Kemba

  • JoeTeam

    I give KW props for his play this quarter, it is within the team game that is catching us up.

  • Lin Win

    Sigh Lin left his man open and fouled

  • LinMad

    good blocking out by Lin

  • BeastModeCowboy

    these refs are so one sided its hillarious

  • LinMad

    ok i dont like the Kemba iso right now

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Kemba doesnt get the exact same call Durant does

  • BeastModeCowboy

    These refs are so bias its hillarious.. they obviously working for the Thunder

  • Lin Win

    Nah PJ elbowed Durant

  • John Focker

    Any player making 50% more FGA than WB is excessive.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin passing a little too much.

  • LinMad

    PJ thought it was 2 shots lol

  • kauaiblue

    walker is playing heroball again…

  • JoeTeam

    anyone notice now CHA got to 4 pts gap and then KW starts to do his thing?

  • Epie

    Same pattern over and over

  • sws94

    Yes.

  • Lin Win

    Kemba keeping us in the game!

  • LinMad

    PJ needs to stop touching KD, KD doesn’t miss his FTs

  • kauaiblue

    No, he is keeping anyone else from getting into rhythm…

  • Alain Gervais

    lamb screwed lin there

  • BeastModeCowboy

    relax

  • Alain Gervais

    lol

  • kauaiblue

    Why does he hesitate to shoot so much?

  • John Focker

    Exactly as he did in the last two losses.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    PJ is a bonehead defender.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    self confidence

  • Lin Win

    Well one player has to score. Other players are shooting below 50!
    At least Kemba is getting their starters into fouling him.

  • zxcvb

    That 3rd BS foul on Lin was a turning point. Without Lin being aggressive on defense, CHA is falling apart.

  • Promo Sports World

    Two games off will make you a little cold…..liking what he is doing

  • kauaiblue

    Bc he is keeping them from getting into rhythm… lol

  • Lin Win

    3-8 Lin come ON! worst than PJ

  • zxcvb

    He’s not getting the ball when open. He only gets it after the clock is down and he’s 30ft away.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, that last 3 made was pretty.

  • occupatio

    i know how this story goes. it will be said that kemba played great, but no one else showed up to play.

  • John Focker

    And here I thought KW is playing PG, who is supposed to playmake and set up teammates for open shots. Silly me.

  • Promo Sports World

    Your too much man….pJ has been playing better as of late

  • JoeTeam

    what a dumb move by Lamb, that was really a bad effort.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lamb just makes bad plays

  • sws94

    Run offensive plays. Screens. Where are they?

  • rookie75094

    I hate these refs

  • Promo Sports World

    Lamb is a gunner very one dimensional player right now

  • LinMad

    Lamb…

  • Lin Win

    You can whine all you want. Kemba’s scoring on transition so it has nothing to do with rhythm.
    Kemba has 4 assist to Lin’s 3
    So your argument is invalid.

  • JoeTeam

    lin was wide open on the other side.

  • LinMad

    do these refs work for the Italian mob?

  • Pete Roces

    some fans here obviously think Lin is a superman. Come on he is playing with injury, don’t expect too much and most importantly don’t bash him everytime he has a bad play…..hater disguises as a fan!

  • Lin Win

    PG doesn’t mean he has to pass all the time. He’s shooting well so I’m pretty sure he’s going to keep going.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lamb on kd is a big mistake

  • Promo Sports World

    One more bucket or free throws and I’m ok with his game

  • occupatio

    lamb closes out by going straight into the shooter’s chest/center area. its no surprise he fouls ppl shooting all the time.

  • John Focker

    He has more asts because he has the ball in his hands longer. Simple as that.

  • Lin Win

    PJ is scoring on Durant and Lin on a nobody.

  • Promo Sports World

    Okc hated that lamb couldn’t do anything else but shoot …. Liked the potential but he didn’t develop

  • grover chang

    I know. Need the ball to play. Thanks for hogging the ball. Kemba.

  • Lin Win

    He’s the PG right? He’s got another assist while you were typing.

  • LinMad

    Lamb holds the ball too long. When he does that, he’s forced to shoot.

  • Promo Sports World

    That’s why I’m laughing at these posts sometimes it’s like “crazy”

  • i forgot that lamb is playing against his old team.

  • LinMad

    wtf Lin didn’t even touch him did he?

  • Lin Win

    WHAT! That was a hold by Adams WTF?

  • Lin needs to sit after the 4th foul 🙁
    Hard to fight the screen & can’t stop

  • John Focker

    Hornets record during Kemba years speak for itself, useless to argue with me. Please help yourself to http://www.kwalkerportal.com if you feel that he’s superior to Lin.

  • zxcvb

    Refs took this game over. 4 BS fouls on Lin.

  • kauaiblue

    Walker does not make his team better… what are you, his boyfriend?

  • Promo Sports World

    Clifford likes the effort

  • MoominFloren

    what ?!? another foul??

  • Lin Win

    Game Over Lin!
    Foul troubles AGAIN.

  • heart

    Hopefully Troy will get to shoot his 3s. He subbed in for Lin. KW, please find Troy.

  • kauaiblue

    you could see jlin was sayin: “he was holding me.”

  • Pete Roces

    hehe, so obvious, these so called Lin fans are bashing him everyway they can.

  • Promo Sports World

    Talent matters
    Jefferson and MKG are good
    Batum out
    Marvin can’t play anymore

    Hard to win

  • your son’s voltaire

    you know a coach does NOT support you when he never argues the call for you but instead tells you it’s your fault and sits you

  • LinMad

    Good that the crowd is showing they hate the refs

  • Promo Sports World

    Come on now lol….

  • zxcvb

    Refs pre-decided this game. Every time CHA made a run, they start blowing whistles — the Asian guy is always the #1 target. He doesn’t even have to touch a guy.

  • your son’s voltaire

    has he ever argue for Lin? didn’t he just sit him? you come on now. lmao

  • MoominFloren

    i hate the refs !!! they’ve decided to give thunders the win from the well beginning

  • BeastModeCowboy

    this is ridiculous

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Refs taking over this game

  • LinMad

    They calling foul on every play for KD

  • Promo Sports World

    I bet the house he argues for Jeremy and all his players….whether it matters is something else

    And jermey is one of his guys…if the game is close he will get 4th quarter minutes

  • Lin Win

    Oh god that insult! I’m offended.

  • LinMad

    LETS GO!!!!!!

  • your son’s voltaire

    you have to bet? so you don’t know but assuming cus you’re not paying attention. gotcha

  • kauaiblue

    What happened with the fan??

  • LinMad

    no foul call on that 3?

  • troy daniels must’ve been pretty cold when he shot that.

  • LinMad

    still gets to watch the game

  • Alain Gervais

    Kemba doing great on russell

  • Whitman Lam

    No other option. Batum is out and Hairston has 4 fouls.

  • heart

    The power of the whistle is at work in favor of Durant tonight.

  • kauaiblue

    What happened though?

  • LinMad

    man KD gets special treatment by refs, now no one can defend him

  • cshot

    could you pls stop trolling lol?

  • Alain Gervais

    yep

  • DX

    I think he said one Thunders player crossed the line.

  • Promo Sports World

    Clifford has 30 plus years coaching

    Best coach Jeremy has played for since dantoni

    I pay attention to the details….his pattern with Jeremy is fair….you should reflect on how Jeremy was treated the last 3 plus years

  • kauaiblue

    It is so boring when they do that… it ruins the game… the players are like what constitutes a freakin foul?

  • JJ Hui

    Why NBA honors this kind of bias and corrupting referees?

  • Epie

    don’t feed the troll! lol

  • rookie75094

    Kd was being a drama queen

  • your son’s voltaire

    it’s no different. if you can’t see that then i don’t know what to say

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah, it doesn’t exist as much in other sports…

  • NONONO

    Hornets 1 TO, OK 9. Durant has 3. NO problem!

  • occupatio

    been very boring game.

    kam getting eaten alive by adams on the boards.

  • rookie75094

    According to ready…just normal bantering

  • kauaiblue

    ok, thanks!

  • kauaiblue

    got it… thanks!

  • MoominFloren

    No problem. I have refs on my back – Durant

  • Lin Win

    Kemba doing work!

  • Promo Sports World

    Everything this Season is a plus for Jeremy…..if you want Linsanity that only happens in a different system….I got no problems with how I’ve seen Jeremy coached this year

  • kauaiblue

    yeah, boring… bad refereeing…

  • Lin Win

    Surprised Kemba is beating Westbrook off the dribble!

  • LinMad

    Mr. 4th qtr, lets gooooo

  • sws94

    Just want Lin to not get hurt. He looks OK and this game the refs just are taking him out of it.

  • NONONO

    Daniels got 11 mins. Roberts 0?

  • Lin Win

    Roberts is selfish

  • your son’s voltaire

    of course it’s a plus when you’re going from the Lakers/kobe/BS. but that doesn’t mean he is being treated fairly in charlotte. it’s better than LA but worst than Houston

  • kauaiblue

    Reminds me of someone…

  • tom

    Severely getting out rebounded
    These bigs are really bad

  • LinMad

    these refs dont call anything for Hornets

  • Briiick

    Lin is not 100%, his rebound is a good indicator about that.

  • cshot

    daniels is not being used right either…dude needs get some screens and shoot. kemba iso too much

  • Lin Win

    Batum? yeah I know

  • LinMad

    he shouldn’t be rebounding in the first place but I agree that this season he has been rebounding well for a guard

  • Alain Gervais

    don’t need another pg. he is too short to guard sg

  • kauaiblue

    Right, OKC has a good team…

  • Promo Sports World

    Tough game…..Durant getting MJ calls

  • John Focker

    …who took 22 shots in 3 quarters…

  • kauaiblue

    oh, i forgot about him… lol… walker too…

  • LinMad

    Roberts reminds me of how JC played in Lakers. Shoot first, rarely passes

  • kauaiblue

    yeah, that unselfish person…

  • occupatio

    he whines all the time but hes also like harden in understanding the foul-to-FT game. its something he does consistently, not just tonight.

  • Lin Win

    Dude still shoots well. You can’t deny that! Just be happy he’s not scoring 40 on us.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Kemba has already taken 22 shots.. Durant has only taken 12 shots… lol

  • blubell

    Tech for Lin!

  • Promo Sports World

    Great player….he knows he will get the calls…..heard he might be interested in golden state as a free agent wow

  • occupatio

    whats new. cliff is not an offensive mind.

  • your son’s voltaire

    daniels is a good catch and shoot player. he needs a good pass first point guard cus he can’t really create his own. but the hornets system doesn’t really do Lin nor Daniels any justice

  • sws94

    I agree with you. This is the best coach Lin has had in terms of how he’s being treated since D’Antoni. He’s not being featured the same way, but definitely utilized and appreciated.

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lin has had it with the refs

  • Promo Sports World

    He is monster….saw him in Rucker Park several years back….arms are like tree branches

  • blubell

    Never seen Jeremy so mad…

  • Promo Sports World

    Interesting

  • LinMad

    5 fouls already for Lin, these refs…

  • LinMad

    Lin never gets tech lol this is rare

  • Lin Win

    It’s over for Lin!
    5 Fouls AT THE START OF THE QUARTER and didn’t impact the game.

  • Promo Sports World

    Fire and desire — Clyde Frazier

  • sws94

    Lin needed to do that. Good for him. That’s just, I can’t say the word because this is a PG site.

  • blubell

    22222222

  • Whitman Lam

    How many of these fouls are legit ??

  • occupatio

    such a phantom foul and from behind too

  • your son’s voltaire

    best to you cus the last one was the worst. you’re just happy for anything. that’s a loser’s mentality

  • what did Lin do to get the tech?

  • Lin Win

    Does it matter? One more and he’s out.

  • occupatio

    stomped his foot

  • BeastModeCowboy

    LIN IS PISSED

  • JJ Hui

    The referee is just so …..what did Lin do and get tech foul? I hope Lin is mad now and fire up!

  • blubell

    I think he stomped his foot.

  • heart

    The power of the whistle is against Hornets tonight. This is Lin’s 2nd technical fouls in his NBA career if I’m not mistaken. Lin must be very upset on that play!

  • your son’s voltaire

    i’m glad Lin got the technical. he has to stand up for himself. but hoping he doesn’t get too excited and risk injury

  • wow, must have been an emphatic stomp…

  • Promo Sports World

    Lamb should play like sell curry

  • Promo Sports World

    Run off screens

  • your son’s voltaire

    did what clifford should have done

  • John Focker

    Refs paying mad respect to Jeremy, they’re not bothering to take Kemba out. Shows you who’s the real threat.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin has 5 foul so he has handcuffs right now on defense

  • blubell

    Officials: #30 John Goble, #37 Eric Dalen, #31 Scott Wall

  • BeastModeCowboy

    bunch of lame officials

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Keminsky and Lamb are horrible

  • kauaiblue

    Right, does he fight for his players (other than batum and walker)?

  • NONONO

    Lin got a T? IT IS GREAT! LIN should not be too nice!

  • wait, how are they respecting him?

  • Lin Win

    Game looks over now!

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Thunder has 35 FT attemps… Hornets only have 24… thats why we are going to lose the game

  • kauaiblue

    Yesh, like that too… get mean jeremy!

  • your son’s voltaire

    i’ve never saw him fight for Lin. seen him fight for batum and kemba

  • LinMad

    I think what he meant to say is that refs see Jeremy as a threat to OKC so they handing him fouls kind of like that Houston game

  • Alain Gervais

    Lamb does weird stuff sometimes . make me lose my mind

  • oh, okay.

  • cshot

    flag this troll

  • TTNN

    yeah

  • occupatio

    oh please. this is disrespect, not respect.

  • Whitman Lam

    Lamb tries to be Kemba Walker too much sometimes.

  • Lin Win

    Lol? How is it troll? Check the boxscore! Too many sensitive fans here.

  • Promo Sports World

    Dell Curry or maybe JJ redick should be who he mirrors

  • Brewkowski

    Why are you here?

  • TTNN

    good, they took lamb off

  • Lin Win

    Why can’t I? I’m just stating stat lines. Just because Lin is getting a bad stat line doesn’t mean I have to praise him.

  • your son’s voltaire

    catch and shoot Daniels

  • Whitman Lam

    Refs all with their phantom fouls, makes me want to stop watching NBA altogether.

  • occupatio

    having lamb guard durant was simply mind boggling. that lasted a while too

  • Promo Sports World

    Clifford let lamb who is too hyped up get too many minutes but with batum out what can you do

  • Whitman Lam

    Flagged him!

  • Alain Gervais

    Lins speed not quite back yet

  • joyce ward

    Thanks

  • kauaiblue

    so walker gets a call? nba sux…

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Lin gets hacked and no call lol

  • Whitman Lam

    It does matter if these are phantom fouls that the refs single him out for.

  • Yascar

    Second time in one thread that you said it!!! I’m so NOT surprised!

  • Promo Sports World

    Kemba will be an all star this year….having a strong season and the pg position in the east besides wall is weak

  • Yascar

    Ok done.

  • Whitman Lam

    Flagged !

  • Lin Win

    So many sensitive fans.
    One bad post about Lin and I get flagged and called a trolled haha

  • Epie

    Dude, everyone here knows you are KOF and a troll. Don’t have to pretend you care for Hornets.

  • Brewkowski

    Nah, I can’t watch the game but am reading all these entries and your comments are particularly petty.

  • joyce ward

    He don’t got the votes

  • BeastModeCowboy

    *sign Lin having an off game.. oh well on to the next one

  • Yascar

    It’s not one bad post haha. And you keep repating yourself haha.

  • Promo Sports World

    Coaches in thinking

  • LinMad

    refs won this one, they killed the hope for CHA to win in the 4th by handing out fouls

  • Lin Win

    Well is it not true? Is Lin’s 4-12 shooting good? 5 PF at the start of the 4th quarter? -14 +/- worst on the team?

  • Lin Win

    Nah my first post was flagged then stats changed from -12 back to -14 so i repeated it

  • zxcvb

    Hard to play when all the refs gang up on you on both ends.

    Also, Westbrook is 5-14 and Lin guarded him most of the time…on a bad ankle.

  • blubell

    You only comment on the negative. Check your posts. This is fan site for Jeremy.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin not himself tonight.

  • joyce ward

    Nope, too many good players in eastern conference thus year.

  • kauaiblue

    get this guy outta here…

  • Alain Gervais

    he clearly isn’t fully healthy although really close. does look a little slower but that could be the 5 fouls. he don’t want a charge

  • joyce ward

    Lin was injured.

  • Lin Win

    So I’m not allow to say what’s true on the stat sheet? Freedom of speech much?

  • blubell

    Don’t think so.

  • TTNN

    can’t jump

  • Yascar

    Lowry though.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Hornets will be 17-17 by Monday night

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes of course.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    I dont see this Hornets team making the playoffs playing like this.. not happening

  • BeastModeCowboy

    17-17 is 500 ball

  • your son’s voltaire

    when he scores a lot, team loses. it’s been a pattern for years

  • Briiick

    Yeah, he has not got a rebound yet. He used to be on par with the Hornets’ Bigs in rebounds.

  • Lin Win

    back to the 500 club!

  • joyce ward

    Yep Lowry

  • sws94

    Kemba’s not much of a passer.

  • your son’s voltaire

    he’s really pissed at the calls and i think at clifford for not supporting him

  • Promo Sports World

    You take off almost a week and change and with bad wheels….kid still put up 13 shots and played hard….got a tech….played physical D…..this is a totally refined NBA player

    Hornets don’t have the horses…too many injuries

  • occupatio

    thats true. cliff doesnt argue for lin on calls.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    0 rebound tells all

  • LinMad

    Lin should just foul out and foul out big. Kobe chop to the head style.

  • Lin Win

    That’s not what some of the fans said when Batum played sick though?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Take Lin out yet?

  • your son’s voltaire

    yup. there’s absolutely ZERO chance Lin will stay with this lame duck coach. he’s no different from mchale

  • sws94

    Sometimes we expect too much of LIn. Shut down the top players, if he subs for a player put up over 20 every time. Some nights, things just are flowing for you. The effort and desire and heart is there, his body isn’t totally there at all, and that’s the best he has tonight. He’s still done so good things out there but the team is overmatched unless they are a full strength,.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Man Lins shot so off today…wtf

  • Lin’s said before that he doesn’t play well angry.

  • BeastModeCowboy

    Lin is only 4-14.. ankle must not be 100 %

  • Promo Sports World

    Hornets might have to make a trade for a big man….Chicago has Noah and Gibson….worth a look

  • your son’s voltaire

    no. game is already lost so might as well take a chance

  • BeastModeCowboy

    well Lin going back to the Bay Area next game… hopefully he can do something special

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    What chance? He’s injured

  • your son’s voltaire

    talking about the 5 fouls

  • Acbc

    Best to just fold and move on.

  • occupatio

    its obvious from how he moves, and his lack of lift.

  • Promo Sports World

    He is such a better player now….but yea the board is a little crazy with expectations….if he drops 12-15 with some dimes and rebounds in happy for him

  • LinMad

    we don’t care, stop bringing it up

  • well, at least his assist to TO ratio was good.

  • Lin Win

    Honestly I hate frank. That was an open pass to Lin but he would rather turn around and get blocked

  • rookie75094

    You are just trollingnow…smh

  • BeastModeCowboy

    you the fake Lin Win

  • Lin Win

    Just stating the boxscore don’t hate!

  • BeastModeCowboy

    theres two Lin Wins on this post.. find the imposter

  • kauaiblue

    I gotta differentiate between you and this clown above…

  • Promo Sports World

    Newsflash….when a team is getting whipped plus and minus becomes useless

  • blubell

    Just don’t respond.

  • Epie

    LOL

  • Lin Win

    How is it troll when it’s on the stat sheet

  • zxcvb

    This game and the Houston game are the 2 that were pre-decided by refs.

    Notice how the foul-fest only kicked in after CHA made runs to shrink the lead. And then disappeared until the next run.

  • your son’s voltaire

    true. this one is from the lakers board trying to get back at the real Lin Win

  • LinMad

    ur spamming it, we can see the stat sheet too

  • Promo Sports World

    Nba needs Durant to be on a winning team….

  • zxcvb

    He’s been lost in the shuffle this season despite having another Curry-like year.

  • LinMad

    Lin should really foul someone hard. Just to finish this game off.

  • kauaiblue

    it sure looks that way…

  • joyce ward

    Yall don’t get it, since Batum was injured, lin had to play because there was nobody else to play. I applaud lin for what he did, but this game was a fix from the start with refs.

  • blubell

    That’s not him tho

  • kauaiblue

    why is he still in there?

  • Lin Win

    Frank trying to hard and failing as hard

  • Promo Sports World

    Which is why he will leave okc…..he needs to be seen again….

  • Promo Sports World

    And Marvin has lost his way….playing really bad

  • tom

    Lamb or Troy Daniel at 2?

  • CJSHYY

    I thought he asked Lin out but no…Lin came back again?!

  • LinMad

    well do it to send a msg to the NBA, he ain’t a softy

  • tom

    Thought the same thing

  • cshot

    hopefully lin can get his rhythm going. missing 2 games didn’t really help

  • Promo Sports World

    Cliff wants that rust to come off…..

  • LinMad

    We did rely too much on Kemba this game. Ball needs to move more. It looked like team played selfishly when Kemba started isoing.

  • spiderman

    Coach risked further injury. Another example of Lin’s misutilization

  • rookie75094

    I notice your trolling since last night saying no one cares about Jlin thus no big contract….bUT connviently ignore memphis offer

  • tom

    Need batum back

  • your son’s voltaire

    yup. should have taken Lin out when he took Kemba out

  • LinMad

    Frank can’t make a bucket

  • blubell

    And a 100% Lin

  • sws94

    Lin’s shot looked good early in the game. I think it’s the foot and lift more than the shot that accounted for all of the misses.

  • rookie75094

    Fts for Jlin

  • kauaiblue

    at least get some points…

  • blubell

    Made 1

  • Promo Sports World

    Marvin Williams has really regressed to the mean

  • kauaiblue

    wow, what a frustrating game…

  • blubell

    Block 🙂

  • Rzo Vlade

    blk yes

  • KL

    Lin really looks pissed. Have rarely seen him looking like this. Must be the technical.

  • GoJLin!

    JLIN 1 BS!

  • blubell

    2222222

  • Promo Sports World

    Get that rust off

  • spiderman

    Silly ref

  • your son’s voltaire

    Eric Collins telling the story of Jeremy Lin. lol. he’s a fan. Stephanie Ready is a Lamb fan

  • tom

    and fairer refs while we are at it

  • LinMad

    Now …..refs feel sorry and want to give CHA foul calls.

  • Epie

    Well, good efforts, Lin. You’ve done your part well.

  • blubell

    At least Jeremy got his points!

  • LinMad

    They can give CHA all the foul calls and they won’t catch up.

  • KL

    Kaminsky has turned into a useless pile of mush on both ends.

  • kauaiblue

    sick of this crep…

  • Alain Gervais

    atleast lin got some rust off, since he played the whole game he is fully healthy

  • your son’s voltaire

    he was good when he was setting a bunch of screens and playing pnr with Lin a few weeks ago but then he started to get a big head and started to iso a lot and not setting picks for Lin

  • kauaiblue

    lol… soft with lack of skills…

  • Epie

    Don’t know what happened to him. He used to be really selective with shots, but since his big pt night… something changed

  • LinMad

    These refs though, making me hate NBA. And I’m not just mad at the calls Lin got/didn’t get, I’m talking about the calls for KD.

  • Promo Sports World

    Been this way for years

  • kauaiblue

    yes, it is a total scam…

  • kauaiblue

    Was it like that during the 80’s?

  • blubell

    *sigh* yup

  • KL

    Lin looks healthy. That is one positive thing at least.

  • Lin Win

    Memphis wasn’t offering 10mill. Do you know what it means to be a troll?

  • tom

    Refs are horrible
    They calling fouls on everyone
    I get CHA is not a big market but still this is bad
    and it will be that way for a couple more games

  • Lin Win

    True ! Just making it easier for others!

  • Promo Sports World

    I was super young so hard to say but in the 90s heck yeah

  • Alain Gervais

    53 -34 rebound jeez. Insanity cant overcome this

  • kauaiblue

    90’s? jordan got all the calls, huh?

  • sws94

    At points in the game he looked like himself, but he’s on the mend. It didn’t look like he aggravated anything so he should be better in the next game. I don’t know how long Batum will be out so it may be another blowout on Monday.

  • Promo Sports World

    Need big man and Williams brings nothing….call Chicago for Gibson

  • JoeTeam

    kw playin’ his game didnt help.

  • Alain Gervais

    if al wasn’t injured we should trade him

  • GoJLin!

    Not bad for JLIN fight through the ankle sprain & horrible ref; 33:50 min 15 Pts/4Asts (0 TO) &1 Reb, 1 ST, 1BS!

  • KHuang

    It’s a ROOKIE moment.

  • JoeTeam

    joey c retiring good

  • blubell

    I thought it was bad before but it’s worse this year. So bad that Jeremy got a tech.

  • your son’s voltaire

    well, at least Lin got his pent up frustration towards the bias refs out of the way

  • KHuang

    No, GOOD that Lin got a tech.

    He should FIGHT BACK.

  • Guest

    No easy buckets in transition except for a couple of Kemba’s points. Can’t play half court basketball to give the defense time to set up against high scoring offense. Looked like a lakers game to me.

  • KHuang

    EXCELLENT!

  • KL

    I wonder what he said?

  • JoeTeam

    he was bad … looks away from a wide open lin for three, made a strong moved to the basket. major brick. rinse repeat all game. 2/11

  • blubell

    I didn’t say he shouldn’t fight back…

  • tom

    This team needs all 3 of Batum, Kemba and Lin
    Also needs lamb to sustain bench scoring
    Bigs need to ger rebounds They suck, Cody is soft, Marvin looking like a bust(drafted before CP3), Kaminsky is soft and selfish
    Hawes is clueless and Tyler needs to play smarter
    They really need a tough big

  • Guest

    I agree.

  • LinMad

    I have never seen Lin get a technical. Maybe once in the past but it was over something ridiculous like laughing while he’s sitting on the bench. I’m glad he let the refs know he hated the calls.

  • sws94

    Hawes couldn’t go. He was unable to play in the 2nd half.

  • tom

    Nah it was good to see Lin can get heated too
    I loved it

  • Lin Win

    NIce!

  • LinMad

    and to play less selfishly.

  • TTNN

    and scary when he was trying to run coast to coast all the time. Once in a while is okay. Now he likes to bring the ball up, what’s that?

  • tom

    I dont mind him a funny grandpa

  • your son’s voltaire

    it wasn’t so much what he said. it was how he stomped his foot in frustration. and on top of that, his hair was floppin like The Joker’s lol

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It may be time to also replace Marvin for Frank in the starting line-up..He’s regressed greatly.

    Average game by Lin…Didn’t shoot well enough.

  • Guest

    He should be getting more technicals to be more vocal. There’s a difference in complaining, then being vocal. Complaining doesn’t get you anywhere, but being vocal about the bad calls puts a spotlight on the ref, even if isn’t fair.

  • spiderman

    Ref is a joke – a technical for a foot stomp

  • LinMad

    ya he needs to get the rust off, he’s been out for a couple days. And the 5 fouls really constrained him from playing his best defense

  • Lin Win

    Boxscore

    Note:Blubell I love you

  • blubell

    He got a tech for defending unfair call Beverly received which McHale should have done.

  • your son’s voltaire

    disagreed. kemba and batum have been picking up their isolation game lately and ignoring Marvin who really needs a good system to be effective on the offensive end

  • tom

    unfair call on Beverley? no no no he deserves every call on him
    He’s all hype

  • LinMad

    agree that Kemba/Batum is isoing more now

  • Yascar

    Oh look Mister I’m-not-a-troll is back.

  • your son’s voltaire

    i think Lin knew he was getting a technical for it though. he wanted to make a statement

  • joyce ward

    LOL

  • Lin Win

    Oh no! Posts boxscore gets labeled as troll
    feelsbadman

  • LinMad

    flagged for being annoying

  • tom

    probably something about the refs family
    he went to Harvard he knows how to insult people

  • LinMad

    flagged

  • blubell

    That’s not the point.

  • your son’s voltaire

    a few more bans and you’ll run out of places to log in. stop wasting your gas finding free internet at mcdonald’s and starbucks buddy

  • Lin Win

    Why man !

  • tom

    lol I know just haven’t seen that name for a while

  • LinMad

    did u guys notice how refs stopped giving OKC any calls and gave CHA all the calls at the end of the game? So fixed.

  • sws94

    I agree. Why risk it anymore in a game where the outcome is known?

  • LinMad

    flagged again. No reason needed. Just feel like it.

  • tom

    They wanna establish the Durant-Westbrook brand

  • Lin Win

    Well you can’t ban me when I didn’t do anything wrong!

  • Promo Sports World

    Not sure the front office can improve this team

    No one to trade

  • blubell

    Sorry for bringing it up. Will be more careful next time. Lol.

  • Lin Win

    Glad you are honest

  • spiderman

    Lin should try this next time
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MqFz_jmcYF0

  • your son’s voltaire

    i can’t but the mod can because they just did and u came back

  • Epie

    Sad thing here is that he still think he got flagged cuz of his boxscore post.

  • at this point, you’re deliberately provoking people. i thought people were over the top when they called you ‘troll’ at the very beginning. But in response you decided to keep provoking people and start annoying people who would’ve probably originally been on your side. You can keep doing that, and you’ll continue to keep annoying people. If you’re the sort of person who likes to annoy and agitate people and make people not like you, then you should continue. I recommend that you just stop.

  • joyce ward

    I’m glad lin got his stat line,even through he was on the mend. Also Hornets putting their eggs in Batum’s basket and I guarantee you he won’t sign with the hornets. Batum still eyeing the Raptors .

  • CJSHYY

    If they don’t want to play team ball… nothing will change… back to old days again.

  • LinMad

    if u really want my honest opinion, it’s cause ur a troll who likes to hate on Lin for small things like missing a free throw.

  • Yascar

    Nicely said thank you.

  • Promo Sports World

    Yeah kid ain’t staying with the hornets neither is Jeremy

  • Lin Win

    How am i provoking people? I’m just saying that Lin’s +/- was the worst in the team. Is it not true?
    I said it on my first post and immediately labeled a troll and flagged.
    I’m just exercising my freedom of speech.

  • tom

    LOL

  • LinMad

    i don’t think Batum showed anything that would give him a max contract. Yes, CHA might need him but right now, he’s playing so many roles that it’s actually hurting the team.

  • Lin Win

    Is a free throw not important? He’s a guard that shouldn’t be hitting 1 out of 2 shots.

  • Lin Win

    Clearly it was my boxscore post

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lamb played much worst than Lin did. he never defends and never really contribute other than scoring which he didn’t really do this game either. an all around stinker

  • Epie

    Nope. You got labeled troll way before your boxscore post. Not hard to find your old posts.

  • this is a lin fan site. it’s okay for people to say a negative thing about Lin. but it’s not good to repeat it over and over.

    it’s not about freedom of speech. one can use freedom of speech to be annoying and provoke people.

  • Lin Win

    -facepalm- i was being sarcastic -.-

  • KHuang

    I wasn’t actually disagreeing with you.

  • LinMad

    Some days he hits 4 out 5 and u still get mad over that one missed FT. You have been really annoying lately.

  • Epie

    Good night

  • tom

    I don’t think he is
    He has made many good posts
    just has high expectations for Lin i think
    He’s been around for some time

  • Lin Win

    How is it repeating? I said it twice.
    Once when Lin got -14 and another when Lin went from -14 to -12 back to -16.

  • LinMad

    You posted it like 7 times.

  • Lin Win

    Don’t let the bed bugs bite.

  • Lin Win

    Thank you for being understanding!

  • JJ Hui

    May be they got huge Christmas presents this year from….lol

  • blubell
  • KHuang

    For Lakers and Celtics and 76ers, YES.

    The NBA is into “dynasty building” because parity does not generate revenue.

  • LinMad

    I flagged it more than twice. You said it about 7 times.

  • Lin Win

    Trade Al as an expiring contract. Apparently Hornet fans don’t like him!

  • tom

    No thanks we don’t need Batum we really dont unless DeRosan is gone

  • Lin Win

    Just wondering am i blocked forever?

  • KHuang

    Were Jordan fairly officiated, he would have been just another guy.

  • blubell
  • Lin Win

    No friend ! 7 times is an exaggeration and you know it.

  • LinMad

    why didn’t that dude just hand him the card and sit down instead of delaying the game trying to explain it.

  • Lin Win

    Only on free throws because it wins games.

  • Yascar

    Not sure he’s the same one. He’s abrasive today, most days I don’t really mind Lin Win, but today I think he was deliberately provocative and asking for attention.

  • martan267

    That was a snarky comment… Made it sound that Jeremy Lin is not an interesting player… And that only his hair is the only thing worthy of note today.

  • tom

    Fans are allowed to trash talk
    Kevin Durant was being a wuss reporting the fan
    Very, very immature of him

  • your son’s voltaire

    i’m gonna assume he did more than just taunting. he sat court-side and must have done something that could have really hurt a player

  • tom

    I probably missed the “controversial” post but i think both sides need to tone it down a little

  • blubell

    He’s been warned a couple times.

  • Rzo Vlade

    jlin being bash all around is enough we wont bash jlin here we can say he can only tell what we want him improve buts thats about it

  • joyce ward

    No he was doing a lot of baiting. So stop the madness.

  • Lin Win

    That doesn’t sound free and fair. If Lin plays bad then we can say he plays bad. If Lin plays good then we can say he plays good.

    How is that not different from the delusional kobe fans at lakersnation.

  • Rzo Vlade

    dont care all around nba circle jlin view as trash….it wont happen here

  • tom

    Players get trashed all the time, it’s part of the game
    I bet Lin had it way worse but he never complained

  • Lin Win

    Don’t think it’s fair I’ve been warned for posting a stat from the stat sheet. Whatever don’t care!
    I’m not afraid to say what’s factual.

  • Lin Win

    No worries!

  • Yascar

    Fair comment. I can agree with the toning it down generally on this board but I still think Lin Win today specifically was too aggressive. He was gleeful about Lin’s bad points and kept posting to get a reaction.

  • tom

    Gotcha

  • Lin Win

    Only games I’ve been aggressive is: Laker’s game, Houston’s game and freethrows.

  • kauaiblue

    I can believe that… nba is a scam… ive been watching a long time, but onlin the last few years following our boy see this type of thing…

  • kauaiblue

    i love the magic run lakers and dr. j’s sixers… no wonder… nba is duping the average fan…

  • Rick Johnson

    Kid Omega
    ‏@OxfordsXAF
    “@JLin7: first ever technical last night and lost $2000…i realize thats 2000 mcchickens or 4000 jack in the box tacos” jlin is a fatty
    8:43 AM – 21 Feb 2013
    https://twitter.com/OxfordsXAF/status/304632426712428544

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets big are not good enough….

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/683480100520738816

  • LinMad

    i think ur bipolar cause when Lin does well ur become delusional about it and claim Lin is the best out there then when he has one bad game or he miss a FT out of 5 or more, u become a downer.

  • LinMad

    Maybe he needs to train Frank, Zeller and the other bigs how to rebound so that the guards can focus on scoring and defending at perimeter. Too many tasks for every guard right now. Especially Lin and Batum. Batum needs to stop facilitating. He’s not a guard. He’s a SF.

  • CJSHYY

    These bigs are more concern about score than get the reb…..

  • blubell

    You’ve disturbed the flow of the thread many times before with your posts which you were warned.

  • blubell
  • LinMad

    that’s the problem right there. I don’t care how fancy Batum can shoot or facilitate. He did this behind the back pass the other night that almost caused a turn over. It wasn’t even necessary.

    Also, Frank is no guard, why is he penetrating and shooting so much when he should be setting up screens and rebounding? He can shoot when Lin lets him. Lin will pass when he’s opened at the 3. All Frank got to do is set his feet and prepare to catch and shoot.

  • KHuang

    If Walker actually pretended to play defense, the bigs wouldn’t be constantly pulled out of defensive position after he gets burned.

  • KHuang

    Nobody in the NBA scores consistently strictly as a catch and shoot player.

  • your son’s voltaire

    it would make sense if just 3 biggest guys stayed back to secure the defensive rebounds while the 2 guards leek out on transition instead of all 5 guys staying back which doesn’t make any sense to me. same on offense. he has all 5 guys run back to defend and none to grab the offensive rebounds. not very smart. and definitely doesn’t allow for a very fast pace offense

  • 1) “Looks like this is the worst game for Lin this season.
    -15 +/- worst on the team which might be the first time I’ve seen.”

    2) “Flag me you sensitive fans.
    I’m not afraid to say what’s on the stat sheet
    -14 on Lin ! Worst on the team.
    First time this season”

    3) “-14 on Lin ! Worst on the team.
    First time this season surprised!”

    these were three different posts, and this was just from my quick scroll. Well, that’s about all the time I’m going to spend on this.

  • your son’s voltaire

    Troy is an excellent catch and shoot player but the league has gone away from team play so everyone is out for their own. only players who can create for themselves survives this league

  • KHuang

    When Walker isn’t trashing the game with his zero defense isoball and Lin is running the show, the bigs aggressively score and rebound on both ends of the court because they are running Clifford’s team system.

  • CJSHYY

    Well said on Frank why is he penetrating and shooting so much when he should be setting up screens and rebounding? I don’t get it either? Frank or Zeller are not strong enough to protect the rim or what? They care so much to take the 3P shot or score than get the O reb or protect the rim better.

  • tom

    Bigs need to play better defense so guards wont pick so many fouls
    CHA bigs are the worst Actually cant believe how bad they are

    Also, didnt think Lin played great tonight
    a little rusty coming off the ankle injury 5-15 is not good at all and too many fouls limited him a little as well
    but he will be fine going forward playing his usual efficient game
    Even Lin can have this kind of nights I guess we can go easy on batum a little next time lol

  • joyce ward

    Life ain’t fair,but you move on and don’t whine about.smh

  • martan267

    Can you explain? What physics do you mean? I don’t think an athlete who is aware of his body more than the average person would place his feet on unstable locations like sombody’s feet/ ankle. Maybe if they were jumping and colliding in mid air. But not when you’re on the ground and getting up from a sitting position.

  • tom

    gotta develop his skill set

  • Lin Win

    Of course !

  • joyce ward

    Lin scored 15 points tonight. Get over yourselves with he didn’t play well. He was still injured and would have sat out this game if Batum wasn’t jured.smh

  • Lin Win

    One was deleted by the way.
    No worries I’m moving on

  • blubell

    They also talked about Jeremy’s underdog story.
    https://twitter.com/cheesyhoe/status/683478985221619713

  • Lin Win

    You only warned me on the name calling post but no worries. Let’s move on.

  • Hope

    I thought lin relied on outside shot to much this game. Must be feeling the ankle out.
    Lin is really strong this year in the upper body. On that play, he drove in and held himself really well banging against 3 defenders.

  • sws94

    Test.

  • JoeTeam

    to result in a team capability.

  • blubell

    He did say “a little rust coming off the ankle injury.”

  • blubell

    passed?

  • CJSHYY

    Who? Lin?

  • Rick Johnson
  • blubell

    no. tom.

  • KHuang

    She should’ve told him that he did good standing up for himself.

  • KHuang

    Good solid TRUE SHOOTING by Lin.

  • Hope

    HA HA HA …

  • tom

    So? doesnt mean he played great
    15 points on 15 shots is not very good theres no way around it

  • blubell

    Haha. I knew he would tweet about it like last time. Go easy on him Mama Lin 🙂

  • sws94

    Lin is a cool guy.

  • KHuang

    Like I wrote earlier, Lin had GOOD TRUE SHOOTING percentage.

    Even as Errorme Lin from the line, Lin got solid scoring percentages when FT were factored in.

  • joyce ward

    Lin is still mending,so there was no rust. He’s playing through injury

  • tom

    5-15 still not a good shooting night

  • tom

    things are looking good though he was agressive at least and he took those shots

  • joyce ward

    Don’t matter, because the only thing that counts is the points in this league

  • tom

    LOL prolly cuz he’s getting fined

  • KHuang

    You go ahead and PRETEND that Lin’s free throw shooting doesn’t count in the boxscore, then.

  • your son’s voltaire

    Karls gets a technical for arguing on Cousins’ behalf who shows his approval. Tyson gets his own technical in the same game and gets tossed out. Lin argues his own technical also. shows what kind of player you have to be to get this kind of support from your coach..

    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/01/02/george-karl-draws-a-technical-demarcus-cousins-daps-his-approval-video/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

  • KHuang

    True shooting percentage counts A LOT, but you are right in today’s case.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I think that’s the key point. LOL!

  • joyce ward

    So and your point is? Harden got 25 FT’s to get 25 points. In the end it was all about the points.

  • tom

    okay then Harden has great true shooting percentage too

  • joyce ward

    I know.

  • KHuang

    Harden and Lin historically shoot very similar percentages.

  • tom

    Then Harden is a great player too and Batum and Kemba are 2 best scorers on the team
    people can go easy on those 2 as well

  • james brown

    yeah and its because they know that the ball is going to them when the game is a teamball..but knowing it will be one man show, other players lose energy and interest making them play a so so game.

  • tom

    okay then you are right Lin had a good true shooting percentage tonight agree with you

  • blubell

    Let’s not question her parenting. You don’t want to get lecturing texts from Mama Lin. LOL

  • KHuang

    Heh heh.

    Unlike anybody here, I have absolutely no fear of domineering Taiwanese mamas!

  • JoeTeam

    nope difference is harden messes up the team flow so ROX are worse with him, but JLin makes teams better.

  • joyce ward

    Nobody is complaining about their scoring, it”s about them not playing teamball.

  • BobbyH

    How about a Ref Code of Conduct?

  • tom

    fair enough

  • blubell

    There’s always a first time for everything!

  • John Focker

    That sounds so wrong if taken out of context! LOL

  • KHuang

    Harden’s problem isn’t bad true shooting percentage.

    Harden’s problem is selfish play that is compounded by poor D.

    New Rockets coach Bickerstaff has CRACKED DOWN on Harden’s bad habits.

  • JoeTeam

    well, I guess you haven’t wrestled etc. I have seen training to put your feet against other’s feet to lift deadweights. Physics is physics, just go look up levers, fulcrums, etc. and you will see. I can’t explain or argue it’s simple classical mechanics.

  • BobbyH

    Didn’t watch the game. Who guarded Westbrook most of the time?

  • blubell

  • tom

    Lin first half Kemba 2nd half

  • John Focker

    Whatever the refs motivation, it reflects on which player is really influential on the outcome of the game. They’d never do this to Lamb or PJ or even Walker (even though he’s a starter).

  • LinMad

    ur right but if they want to shoot up close, just stand near the rim for a PnR, why get the big all worked up by having him penetrate? It’s the small players like Lin and Kemba who can do that.

  • tom

    Apparently worst D in the NBA according to shaq

    Lin can really help the rockets right now though….

  • LinMad

    KD killed us. RW was also good.

  • John Focker

    It’d send Vegas into a huge panic.

  • JoeTeam

    sorry I’m not being mean below. Just trying not to repeat myself. Maybe this will help: every try to get up on one waterski? They teach you to keep your legs taught in a chair position, push down hard against the water, and keep your belly very stiff. You pop out of the water like magic. Look this up, it’s very cool and also try lifting a friend with him/her in a chair position like getting up on one waterski, and see if it’s easier if they put their feet on yours. They will pop up.

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t like his calls.

  • John Focker

    It’s embarrassing that they needed the refs’ help.

  • blubell

    It goes to NBA Cares. Don’t think he minds 😛

  • blubell

    It’s embarrassing that refs give it.

  • tom

    It’s embarrassing that the NBA allows it

  • blubell

    Tweet after his first technical. LOL
    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/304630745673113600

  • JoeTeam

    back then he could afford a new couch with that lol.

  • LinMad

    13k retweets?

  • JoeTeam

    wow GSW 23-4 v Nuggets. Jan 4 will be interesting I hope to see JLin play really well on that court. He has had great games there.

  • CJSHYY
  • LinMad

    ya i heard it

  • Dorothy

    Totally, and NBA tries to tell us Lin only got 61K votes over 1 month, pleeeeeease. I almost feel not voting any more, since it is so rigged anyway…

  • KHuang

    I’m Taiwanese, so I’m actually dead serious.

  • LinMad

    he might be mad that could have went to JLIN foundation instead

  • JJ Hui

    It’s embarrassing that bias and corrupting referees going on for years!

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • KHuang

    Actually, Harden’s D has been pretty good ever since Bickerstaff took over for McHale.

    While Harden is still regularly prone to bouts of selfishness and refusal to play defense, Bickerstaff will heavily criticize Harden indirectly in the papers.

    Harden is no longer the worst guard defender in the NBA. But now Kemba Walker is.

  • KHuang

    since PRESEASON.

    Allowing Walker to not even pretend to play defense and assigning Batum to cover 2s that he doesn’t have the SG knowledge to follow has decimated the Charlotte defense.

  • LinMad

    PnR defense needs to improve. You can’t have guards trying to get rebounds either cause that leaves the perimeter opened. If bigs played their roles, we wouldnt have this problem where guards over help.

  • golfhacker

    A point per shot is 50% FG% which is great. And that’s assuming 2-pt shots.

  • CJSHYY

    I start to worry that Hornets maybe will not make it to playoff if they continue to let Kemba plays ISO game most of the time… smh! It’s not going to win that many games for them even he did get good stats.

  • FSW

    Yes!

  • golfhacker

    No chance this team will make playoffs with ISO ball, no matter who is doing the ISO. They have no rim protector or a reliable rebounding big man.

  • james brown

    i don’t really get the logic on some posters here..less shooting some says not good, shooting more still not good?(term of FGA).

    Efficiency – some say its better to shoot more even with less efficiency, but other says its not good to shoot less even with good efficiency?

  • Dan Cohen

    @JLin7 “You get a T?? Why not get an A!?” #asiansproblems

  • JoeTeam

    Watching gsw after cha makes it so clear. Lin is trying to play team like gsw. Kw it’s paying hack ball, street ball.

  • Dan Cohen

    hahahahahaah

  • Dorothy

    LOL

  • your son’s voltaire

    well since clifford is primarily known as a “defensive coach”, i’d say he’s lost them

  • james brown

    why do we indulge more on negative rather than take it as it is for JLIn and move on forward to the next game…game over for this game and will be forgotten maybe by some but not on one harping on the negative for some reason i don’t get.

  • blubell

  • james brown

    it’s his fault for not having defense he want!

  • JoeTeam

    Bb …8 ha ha that’s your new nickname.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Hornets used to win so easy but not anymore even Kemba got good stats but team just couldn’t win….

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Wasn’t able to watch the game. Anyone please do a summary of JLin games? Why JLin got a tech?

  • blubell

    New nickname? What was it before? lol. What does that nickname mean, btw? haha.

  • Dan Cohen

    where is da snare

  • blubell

    Jeremy got his stats despite playing with injury and blatantly unfair refs. Lot of iso/heroball, blown assists, etc from his teammates. Same old story.

  • your son’s voltaire

    westbrook looks like he’s running for his life from the lochness monster

  • blubell
  • your son’s voltaire

    that’s what i meant. he lost them because he’s not much of a defensive coach after all

  • JoeTeam

    lol

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks! Can you also explain why he got a tech???? I’ve tried to find out the reason but still didn’t see. Only went so far down the posts as I gave up reading more with so many annoying posts.

  • occupatio

    lin was trailing ball handler and somehow got called for the foul even though he was behind, and didnt make any contact, at least any significant contact. after getting called for the foul, lin stomped his foot hard which expressed his disbelief/frustration/anger at the call. that was the tech.

  • spiderman

    technical for good defense

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW! That is really something. No wonder I’ve lost my interest on NBA again since Lakers. Even this season I have a hard time to watch the games at times. Really would like to watch this game as JLin would be the starter. Seem like there was little point to watch the archive game.

  • Whitman Lam

    OKC has so many shot blockers in the lane, you can’t beat them unless your whole team is on fire from 3.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks! What a _____!!!!!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Does it mean that Curry can’t play next game vs Hornets as well???
    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/683514903160700928

  • occupatio

    all i have to say is that adam silver’s failure to recognize the problem and to deal with it is turning off many fans and a potentially large market.

    it’s not just bad basketball; it’s simply bad for business.

  • TTNN

    He drove and got blocked 3 times. He had no hop inside.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Probably the whole NBA! Need to start off with the refs… esp all the dirty politics!!!! Only still follow Hornets/NBA because of JLin. With my limitation time now, it’s harder to keep any desire to watch even JLin games if Hornets/Cliff doesn’t play him much or so many isos from others.

  • tom

    okay then dont complain when other players have same kind of shooting nights

  • tom

    Thats not my problem
    People have different opinions

  • tom

    I’m not
    and hope you can say the same for batum and kemba when they have simillar stat line
    cuz people go off on them

  • tom

    Thats a big help if he cant go

  • blubell
  • blubell

  • JoeTeam

    geez …

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Good to hear that from Cliff… Never heard that from BS.

  • LinMad

    he’s like an angry rabbit thumping

  • occupatio

    it’s unfair for lin, but when he sees where the wind is blowing with the refs, he really needs to keep his hands close to his body. refs are just looking for an excuse to blow the whistle on him, so don’t give them any excuses to do so.

    that would result in lin playing worse defense, but that’s certainly more effective than sitting on the bench with fouls.

  • have you seen star wars? the new one?

  • any news of how jeremy’s ankle is doing? when i play on a sprained ankle, i normally get worse, but then again, i’m not a professional athlete getting professional treatment. it’s interesting that lin played during garbage time. i hope he plays against a curryless warriors.

  • blubell

    Yeah! Haha. I loved BB-8 🙂

  • Hope

    Lol

  • Hope

    Mda on bench vs clippers thinking “where’s jlin?”

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is it the Chinese press that ask about Lin?

  • JoeTeam

    BB I guess, BB8 is the new R2D2. Trust me, it is beloved.

  • Acbc

    It’s become WWF wrestling in a way. Something needs to be done to make refs more responsible. Video challenge should be available to players on calls. Video challenge has taken out a lot of arguments in tennis and umpires and lines officials are always on notice. The best ones advance to finals and important matches and grandslams. Almost all major events and primary courts now have “Hawkeyes camera systems” that measure trajectory and calculate contact on the court from multiple camera angles. It’s really quick and fans love it.

    I watched the Raptors play against Wizards and the refs were even worst. Home court advantage for raptors and it was so bad something like 38-17. Raptors won with 1/3 of points in FTs. It’s not sports anymore when match fixing is rampant. I’m sure that they can impliment some sort of system that follows the ball like in tennis and take out the constant suspicion of ref bias.

  • JoeTeam

    Just like Melo, Harden, and the Kobe if say 3 yrs ago.

  • JoeTeam

    I played on messed up ankles a lot. No problem if you are wearing a good brace and you do the RICE thing after. The new braces with cross laces and velcro ties are way better than tape, but taping is the pro way.

  • blubell

    Finally!

  • spiderman

    What is Kemba saying in pre game huddle?
    “Just give me the ball oink oink”

  • ah, so you think Lin should be good to go on Monday?

  • JoeTeam

    that knowing look from Lin when he got T’d up … “yep, they’re gonna do it to me so better just live with it.”

  • spiderman

    Laughable that Westbrook would revert to flopping against Lins stellar defense

  • JoeTeam

    they are icing now with professional trainers, etc and they even get shots too, so probably. He played ok today. His stats would have been better had Lamb, Kam finished like Pscyho T on that wraparound. His shots… the 2 3s looked nice but 5/15 is probably because of ankle pain. But he cut ok and I don’t think he was fouling because of any missteps – seemed unfair a few of those calls.

    Steph is another matter. A shin bruise is v painful and it could be chronic. With an ankle, if you just support it against the injured ligament then you can get by (even cross country runners run with taped up ankles, but yep, they aren’t able to peak they just go to displace (not score)).

  • spiderman

    Power tripping

  • Acbc

    That’s why team play is so important. To beat that type of defence you need quick interior passing from a PNR guard. The object isn’t necessarily about forcing a rim attack, the object is to them find a teammate free on the baseline 3 spot. This Hornets team has no idea about such type of interio passing. KW’s selfishness is spreading like a cancer and bigs aren’t running the floor and attacking the rims for rebounds.

    I once watched the Spurs bench take apart the Raptors defence like they were toying with a bunch of kids. They whip the ball around inside and out with multiple options of shot selections. Guys were cutting to the rim and get perfectly timed passes but would pass it up for something better. After what must have able ast 10 passes, the raptors defence was so dizzy with whiplash that they stop chasing the ball. It finally and mercifully ended with a wide open 3 from the right corner.

    This could never happen while kW is PG. no matter how many 3s they take, Clifford will never understand how to implement a new style offence.

  • Yascar

    No, first tweet he mentioned spontaneously, second was in answer to a question from a local reporter.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Briiick

    Lin’s new shooting form takes significantly less effort than his old form. He used to raise the ball higher and a little back resulting in a difficult throwing stroke on his way down.

  • Guest

    The way Jeremy can push the ball up for fast breaks, if he is able to play point guard before half court and Clifford allows him to push the ball up, it creates mismatches and the big blockers haven’t set their defense yet. That’s why Mike D’ Antoni has the 7 seconds or less. The NBA gives them 8 seconds just to cross the court, yet MDA system creates chaos, which JLin excels in.
    I miss the way he played with the Rockets. Perfect system if he is the point guard, unfortunately, not the right coaches and organization.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Number 1, this team does not have JJ Reddick’s run the baseline catch and shoot player and they still run a lot of that plays whenever Lin is the pg.

    Number 2, Kemba is hopeless because he’s allowed to, but Lamb and Kaminsky also go iso whenever the ball in their hands?

    This team will not make playoff this season.

  • sws94

    Same old story.

  • sws94

    Westbrook looks heavier than Lin even though they are both listed at 200 lbs.

  • golfhacker

    Who’s complaining?

  • sws94

    Kemba is playing worse than ISO. It’s more 1 on 3 basketball. ISO is more when others just sit in one place while a player dibbles away and shoots and usually burning clock. Kemba runs all over the the place around many defenders and at some point shoots the ball.

  • sws94

    Lin in first half. Kemba more in 2nd half.

  • sws94

    I was having problems posting under my sign-in. All good now.

  • sws94

    No, it’s not. Lin started off well but it didn’t continue. It’s not genuine to complain of another player with a poor shooting percentage and say it is OK with Lin. It’s not. It’s ok he didn’t shoot well. He played OK seeing that he was coming back from a painful ankle sprain and not 100 percent.

  • sws94

    That’s good to hear. Now can he change Harden’s garbage attitude. Not a lot of people want to play with him.

  • sws94

    Gutted it out. He did stuff that isn’t in the stat sheet like box players out and hustle even on a not so great ankle. He still played hard in garbage time.

  • guest

    People should remember this game:

    https://youtu.be/Cd1zacOBZiI

  • guest

    This should be on the Hornets fan websites.

  • sws94

    Kemba hasn’t found the balance. He can hit big shots through determination. Not enough. Have to bring consistent effort on the defensive end, show leadership as PG to position your players correctly, work with co-facilitators on the court, know when enough is enough of hero-ball and go to involve the teamball and so-forth. Kemba scores 32, not winning basketball. Understood Lin wasn’t total Lin. But still, Lin is a way better passer/creator. Let that part of the game blossom too for Lamb and Kaminsky. Speaking of Kaminsky, he looked young tonight. Good player but showed some bad qualities in tonight’s game.

  • Acbc

    Sorry JT. IMO, basketball is more like tennis on hard court. The rapid change of direction on hard surfaces is by far the most damaging movements in both sports. Soccer on a grass field is much easier because of the give on the turf just as clay surface is preferred by older players for ease on the joints. I’ve had very good club players that I’ve coach quit the game because their feet could take the pounding. Lin might have felt okay when he started, but under game pressure, he probably applied just a little too much pressure on the ankle to make a tough change of direction.

    The grass field produces different types of change of directions that helps to protect from too much forces applied at extreme angles that a hard courts can hold. You probably don’t realize how you make some of change of directions but better athletes on the pitch would pull their inside leg underneath in the exact active balance point to push away to the direction you want to go. In bball and hard court tennis, you’ll routinely see guys just load heavily on the outside foot and use that foot to stop and push off. That slight slippage makes for a softening of the pressure on the stopping foot.

    Lin gutted it out but was obviously hurting because he wasn’t as quick off the jab step.

  • Acbc

    The real beauty of this type of “inside out” offence is that it tires out defences by making them chase a ball.

  • Acbc

    Sorry JT!

  • JoeTeam

    you could be right. I played bball in gyms too. But it’s not pro just for pride, so maybe my experience of playing with sprains doesn’t jibe with the NBA schedule JLin faces. That is, we get a least a week off between games in the gym, etc.

  • JoeTeam

    refs you mean, JLin might have power tripped on that cool hair tonight tho lol.

  • JoeTeam

    somebody up top has to make a decision to win.

  • JoeTeam

    get well, KF!

  • Guest

    Since All Star Ballot started, the Hornets-notably Kemba, Batum and Frank the Tank have been playing selfish ball and lost many games!

  • Guest

    Really don’t mind Lin getting Double Tech tonight. Should’ve done that!

  • Guest

    if you want to break a team, you start from the most impactful player. Refs were doing exactly that.

  • stam

    I can’t believe how biased the refs… this is blatant discrimination that is happening in his own court. just sad.

  • adele

    They would have had a big chance to tie the score in the 3rd quarter, but Kemba went ISO for a long stretch and the lead just mounted up. The moment I saw the heroball from Kemba, I lost interest in watching specially the refs are so obviously biased. If you listen to the announcers, the refs are being warned by the NBA about the calls. It became so obvious because seldom they call foul in favor of the Hornets and a lot of calls in favor of OKC. But either way, I really hate it when Kemba goes ISO and not passing. He thinks he is the savior of this team? Really? Cliff now is a little concern about his job in catering to the Kemba all star movement so he is now making some Lin praises. I was really hoping that Lin would not play this game because I know that he sat for 2 games and the rust is still there. Plus he is not going to be the PG and the offense is still with Kemba. A lot of factors that would prevent him to shine in this game. It’s heartbreaking to watch the Kemba ISO when they would have a big chance to make it.

  • Phillycheese

    When he was T’ed up, did he stomp with his left or right ankle?

  • Phillycheese

    That is why SAS are a tough match up for the Thunder.

  • Phillycheese

    Westbrook is bigger upper body. Lin is more solid down below.

  • Phillycheese

    OKC has too many long players inside. Lin needed his mid range game and 3 ptrs to fall.

  • Yascar
  • Arsenium12 .

    The game in which Lin got his 1st technical was a great one. He played 42 minutes, scoring 29 pts and adding 6 rebounds and 7 assists. Harden had 46 pts. The Rockets came from 14 pts down (107-93) to win 122-119 against OKC. That was also right around the time of a big 10-player trade (Houston – Sacramento – Phoenix) that brought Francisco Garcia to Houston.

    Here is a picture of Lin getting his technical. He comes off the bench to yell at the referees. The lower picture shows McHale looking back toward the bench to figure out who just got the technical. Click to enlarge.
    __________

  • Arsenium12 .

    Some people recognized Jeremy’s potential early on. Here are two excerpts from a Reuters article about a Chinese sporting goods manufacturer that applied for a trademark on Jeremy’s name, 18 months BEFORE Linsanity hit, based on his career at Harvard :

    … in July 2010, Wuxi Risheng Sports Utility Co, which makes about one million basketballs, volleyballs and soccer balls a year, registered his name as a trademark. The company applied to trademark a variation of Lin’s name, “Lin Shuhao (in Chinese characters) Jeremy S.H.L. (initials of Lin’s Chinese name),” according to the website of the trademark office of China’s State Administration of Industry and Commerce. The application was approved in August, with the company paying just 4,460 yuan ($710) … .

    Risheng’s legal representative, Yu Minjie, said Lin caught her eye when she saw him playing on Chinese television in 2010. “I’m a Harvard fan … I like him very much. He gave me a lot of surprises and inspiration,” Yu told Reuters.

    See : http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nba-china-trademark-idUSTRE81Q0QC20120227

  • Acbc

    It’s more about how the top athletes must shave valuable milliseconds off each movement. I’ll give you an example. A division 2 tennis player I was coaching was a pretty good serve and volley player so I tried to improve his court coverage by shaving some time off his recovery step. I asked him to run some very quick suicides from one side of the service box to the other. The box was maybe 7-8 feet wide so he wasn’t developing a lot of momentum but he was still using little little steps to decelerate. I was shocked that he got to scholarship collegiate level play not know simple footwork patterns. I showed him a very simple hop and turn in the air as he was approaching the left stop line. He’d then be extending his back foot out and his other leg and foot would be turned already. This stopping would load his body on top of his right leg and his left leg would act as a spike leg. This maximized his potential to recovery by stopping while loading at the same time to go the other way. The other thing is that for a tennis player, you’d need to keep your chest floating on top of the core facing your opponent. The actual gain was milliseconds but it would help him get to a few more balls.

    Last night Lin looked slower because he was protecting his injury, much like us weekend warriors would do so over time. We’d make compensations and give up milliseconds for the sake of not hurting it more.

  • Acbc

    Unfortunately for Lin, Mchale never praised him and went on media to say the infamous “Jeremy, we’re trying to win here, putting up so many points while making 9 TOs is just no good”. Of course that was pure fabrication from Mchale.

  • Acbc

    Yeah for sure and Duncan is a great unselfish passer.

  • spiderman
  • spiderman

    Great story for all the face-bookers here, but “Maxima”?

    https://www.yahoo.com/tv/mark-zuckerberg-shares-family-photo-170300192.html

    Brilliance in information technology unfortunately does not translate to brilliance in choosing names for new baby. What will they choose for next child — Sentra?

  • HY C

    林家潁 (@jain0517)1/2/16, 11:49 PM
    New Years Day Raptors vs Hornets CCYAA post game event with Jeremy Lin (… youtu.be/OU13oRjKR-8 來自 @YouTube @JLin7 亞洲之夜訪談.2016.1.2.暴龍主場.

  • tom

    a lot of people

  • KL

    To me, the biggest problem with the recent run of games is too much Kemba ball and the breakup of Bench Force 1. Kemba and Batum’s minutes have been too high. I attributed these changes to Clifford wanting to ensure that Kemba and
    Batum are the stars of the team. However, maybe
    Clifford just trusts Kemba and Batum much more.

    Whilst Kemba has been an effective scorer, his lack of defense and failure to involve the whole team is affecting everyone, including Lin who is spending way too many minutes with Kemba.

    The loss of Hawes is also a factor. Whilst I was a vocal critic of Hawes earlier on, I realise now that his passing and genuine attempts to play the offence and defence set up by Clifford is helping the team. I think the advanced stats show that he is a net positive.

    Again, to me the solution is simple. Lin should get the most minutes and should play PG most of the time. Unfortunately this is unlikely to happen.

    However, I have some hope that Lin will figure out how to make the team win again, even if he is sharing the floor with Kemba most of the time. Things should turn around again soon.

  • sws94

    I agree.

    Kemba simply has to play differently and Lin has to do more facilitation. With Batum, Kemba gives up some control. With Lin, if he’s not scoring high, then Kemba takes it upon himself to try to score over 3 players. Kemba has to learn to play off of Lin and trust him more to play make and be the 2nd and better PnR player of the 2 PnR players on the floor when Batum isn’t there and even when he is on the floor with him.

    But Lamb has to do less too, bigs have to get offensive rebounds, bigs have to catch and convert Lin’s passes, bigs have to provide screens for Lin, so the bigs aren’t doing their job either in terms of playing team ball. On the defensive end, only Marvin is giving the consistent effort along with Lin that I can see. Batum doesn’t always either and that needs to change. And I think Cliff knows that without singling out which players need to step it up.

  • Acbc

    I think he just insulted you, lol. Bb8 has a pretty bad figure.

  • tom

    Actually Kyrie Irving has very good shooting percentage for a guard .450+ almost .400 from 3pt with 6 assists and 3-4 rebounds definitely not an ineffective player at all a true super star
    Hope Lin can get close to .450 too this year will definitely help his ppg

  • donsmacau

    “With Batum, Kemba gives up some control.”

    JLIN gets it everyway from the superstars. He never really plays his game on the floor with them…

    Because this :
    is also TRUE “With Batum, JLIN gives up some control.” and this:
    is also TRUE “With Kemba, JLIN gives up some control” AND
    this is MOST CERTAINLY TRUE “With Kemba and Batum, JLIN gives up almost all control.”

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh wow. Nets going to be shopping for a PG?

    https://twitter.com/kc1nyk/status/683726583115464705?s=09

  • donsmacau

    After rewatching the Raptor’s game where JLIN started it was clear that Clifford changed his strategy on what he asked of JLIN for OKC. This could have been because of the ankle or matchup issue or whatever.
    But Raptors clearly JLIN had plays called for him, people setting multiple screens and generally getting his named called often against Toronto.

    I certainly didn’t get that sense with OKC. Ankle? Coaches decision meh.?

  • David Kim

    Nets should bring both Lin and dantoni next year..

  • sws94

    That’s tough. Best to Jarrett in his healing process.

  • donsmacau

    Nets Coach and GM, not to mention the Russian owner are nuts.
    Career suicide for JLIN.

    There is not an executive or Front Office JLIN can trust at their word apart from Mike D’Antoni and Jerry Colangelo and even then it’s still the NBA so don’t bet the farm.

  • heart

    Understood. Just do our part and leave the result to God. Don’t be discouraged.

  • sport

    So JLin got to start because Batum was out again? Seriously he should be starting regardless of Batum playing or not!

  • tom

    These bigs can’t set proper screens
    They are simply ineffective on both ends

  • sws94

    Why? See my post above.

  • ghost

    Lin starts whenever PJ, Batum, or Kemba can’t go.

  • JoeTeam

    I thought about what you said and I confess to being glib online and you called me out. Yep, at Lin’s level, that ankle injury is a real setback whether he plays this coming week or not. Yes, when I worked through ankle problems, I totally forgot as an amateur you can be on crutches for a week, go play in the 3rd week and recover over 6 weeks with nobody tracking your progress with stats, video, and rabid media and fans. So yes to you, that JLin is going to be hampered. I think he will play through it though, and trolls to tiger fans and clici-chasing media will knock him for his ‘slump’.

    And I love your example on footwork. I never got coached at that care level in any sports, though I did reach ok-high in soccer. I had team coaching, but no indiv attention because soccer in the US is not well funded at higher levels.

    So, let’s watch for JLin’s recovery as he snaps on the D and ball. To me last night, he wasn’t cheating on D with fouls, as I felt he got bad calls out there. And, I trust JLin so his anger with the T confirms my bias that some of those calls were bad. So, though he’s a step down, he’s well within the framework of team D performance to me, and I still think CHA team play is messed up because of many things, with one notable being Kemba.

  • sws94

    So the same thing happened. The starters went down early in the game and the bench brought the team back. The starters this time had J Lin in it. To me, the problem is more with how the team starts than whether Lin is in there or not. And the bench, this time with its leader JLin, did a good job bringing the team back. What’s the real issue with the starters? What’s Lin’s biggest impact on this team. Forgetting you are a Lin fan for now, and just looking at the talent of the team, and Kemba is the starting PG, what really needs to change (knowing Al is out for at least 6 weeks)?

  • your son’s voltaire

    westbrook schooled kemba before Lin was able to contain him. simple as that

  • sport

    Just watched the higlight wow those were bias refs on Lin with those phantom fouls and Technical!

  • JoeTeam

    It’s hard for me to understand what the agenda is to drive such bad decisions at the coaching level. This isn’t Rox or LAL where it’s clear there is a star and system they have to please. CHA seems to me a team looking for a great system with what they have, to get into playoffs. The present losses have gone on long enough for anyone with some bball experience to understand the changes or evolution they can male.

  • sws94

    Lin started on Westbrook and I think Westbrook scored more on Lin. Let’s get real here and see what the problem is rather than saying Lin is superman and can stop all great players. He can’t.

  • JoeTeam

    if coached factored in the ankle, he would call plays for JLin as that then gives the team an advantage. dunno.

  • sws94

    Lin’s play is highly affected by the bigs playing with him. Quality bigs or at least fundamentally sound bigs open up a lot of Jeremy. My puzzle with Lin picking Charlotte from the beginning was, who are the bigs he’ll play off of? So far, Cody is the closest to the one he works ok with and he isn’t playing with him that much. But he’s far from ideal.

  • your son’s voltaire

    now i know you’re a troll. cus everything you say is pure bs. 1) no one is saying Lin is superman. 2) Westbrook did score on kemba more. 3) Kemba started on Westbrook, not lin. GET REAL

  • DX

    For me, really doesn’t matter stater or bench. Only the difference of lineups. Best 5 now is PG: Lin, SG: Kemba, SF: Batum, Kiminsky ( or Marvin), Zeller. Of course, Kemba and Batum need to follow their roles, not mess up.

  • sws94

    You’re wrong. Westbrook started off the game with Lin on him. That’s a fact. And he scored a few buckets. Get real goes to you. If you want to go into some Lin is superman fandom I’m not here for that. So ignore me then, but call me a troll and I’ll flag you,. Do it again, I will.

  • JoeTeam

    I agree, I thought they played great team ball at the start of the 3rd and I remembered it getting to 4 pts spread, and the announcers said 2. Then KW decided to take an ISO early in the possession with nobody under the basket and he bricked, and after that, he lost his mind trying to make up for that brick because of course D wasn’t organized on the return trip and so on and so on.

    So yeah, that’s a long thing to say I agree with you wholeheartedly, that the game flow just imploded on that one decision.

  • sport

    Wow I hope Stephen Curry fully recovers soon.

  • TTNN

    Hornets’s starter line up used to be balanced with AI as inside threat and then outside of Kemba and Batum, and then Marvin as stretch 4 but relatively weak inside. And he used PJ to help in defensive side. Then AI got injured, and here is the thing I don’t like Clifford, he really did not change the way the starter play, just replace it with a much weaker Cody inside, now the court is not balanced, and the starter line up is not working.

  • sws94

    That’s the best 5. Problem is, Kemba still plays like Kemba and that means he doesn’t share the responsibilities of play with Lin. Even when Lin starts off the set, unless he completely ignores Kemba, once he passes it to Kemba he plays like Kemba. Lin can’t change Kemba, Kemba has to change himself.

    Batum is better. He’s more apt to pass the ball and play off of Lin than Kemba is. Especially when Kemba isn’t on the floor.

  • your son’s voltaire

    go ahead and flag me. you’re the one throwing “superman fandom” non-sense around for no reason. that’s insulting to the whole site. all i’ve done is argue against your ridiculous claims

  • donsmacau

    Losing like that to a team like OKC in the WAY the Hornets lost says much more about the TEAM and little to nothing about JLIN.

    Ibaka and crew ran ROUGHSHOD over Hornet Bigs both starting bigs and bench bigs for the most part. AND if Ibaka wasn’t running over the bigs. He was intimidating them so the they had the yips on simple layups/dunks or getting the ball handed to them.

    Again, I don’t know what Cliff asked of a previously injured JLIN, but JLIN mostly wasn’t asked to do what he was asked to do against Raptors. Even if he was, a) he needs others to execute when he facilitates; b) may not have mattered when opponent shoots that well from 3.

  • sws94

    I agree. What should happen to fix things? And if Lin stays on the bench which will probably happen, bring him in sooner?

  • your son’s voltaire

    last year, the hornets had biyombo and MKG and so the hornets were a great defensive team. now, they just have Lin carrying them defensively and they’re just mediocre defensively. clifford in my eyes does more harm than good for the team defensively. starting PJ for “defensive reasons” when he’s always getting torched. not getting on certain guys for zero defensive efforts

  • tom

    Yah oh well he probably didnt know these bigs were this bad
    they are all stretch 4’s essentially who cant do the dirty work

  • tom

    Biased refs on the whole team

  • sws94

    Except for Jefferson, who really is a post-up center, yes.

  • sws94

    They took Lin out of the game. No doubt.

  • tom

    Hairston and Cody too
    It’s not like the refs are out to get Lin
    Lin just doesnt get any star treatment and hes playing on a team thats not so popular refs will be more harsh on you

  • donsmacau

    Biggest fallacy perpetuated on the fans the whole season “PJ for defensive reasons”

  • TTNN

    Batum could not change Kemba either. That’s when Batum disappear, and Kemba would hog the ball. Kemba was holding the ball with average 7.5 min per game, consider a team usually hold the ball half of the time, that’s 24 min, and Kemba is not playing the whole game, that means, when he is on the floor, he literally have the ball almost 40% of the time. Batum had the ball average less than 3 min.

    Guys had more time on balls than Kemba usually had almost double the assists there…..

    BTW, don’t quote me, as the numbers were not accurate as that was what I checked two games ago, and I’m refering it with my memory, which is not reliable and also numbers change every game now a days…..

  • tom

    True forgot about him but he doesnt really rebound well any more

  • your son’s voltaire

    exactly, and what’s worst is how everyone believes it. sigh

  • tom

    It was actually the other way around
    Lin guarded Russ to start the game then Kemba switched to him in the 2nd half where he only 1 point i think
    Not saying Kemba played good D but westbrook just didnt even try to do much in the 2nd half
    Lin wasnt able to contain him he was coming off an injury guarding the most athletic man in the NBA nobody can stop him even when they are 100% healthy

  • ghost

    So Kemba 7.5 min
    Batum < 3 min
    Lin 10 milliseconds?

  • TTNN

    what I would think is that Hornets do not have the luxury to keep two separate line up with different style. That was the strategy at the beginning of the season with AI, thus a more traditional team of the first team, and then a more modern style team of BF1.

    Now with MKG down, with AI down, they should just start the best players and then everyone should defense, as well as attack. I really don’t like the coach trying to mix one way players together to have them certain roles. He should start Kaminsky to enhance the front court, start Lin to enhance the diversity. Batum should defend and Lin could share the play making task.

    Then just like every team in the league, starters take turns to lead second team to cover the whole game.

  • sws94

    That could work. What they have now isn’t. I’m good with starting Frank.

  • TTNN

    No, Lin had more than Batum….. Lin hold the ball too, not as bad as Kemba, he probe the defense and try to set up his teammates…….

    Batum is not PG, heck, he is not really a guard, he has limited dribbling skills, thus he only drive and kick, he don’t do what Lin did, or what Nash did, probing the defense, and crowding them, and shake up the defense and set up his teammates, then pass the ball when the timing is right.

  • sws94

    Batum’s biggest plus now is he has a good chemistry with Cody. Some of his other passes may or may not get to the intended target. I don’t think he has a total effort on defense/rebounding.

    Lin is very good at probing but he’s not really playing his style of PG much. As soon as he gets into a rhythm, in comes Kemba.

  • JoeTeam

    A thing that works with JLin and KW are in together is when Lin can get it early in the clock to threaten and then it causes D to get disorganized. A pass to KW then can get KW easy buckets, we saw that over and over. That then sets JLin up to get back on D easier.

    When KW does the Harden-mini, eating up clock, JLin tends to get it with about 7 sec instead of the Harden 4-3. That still is not enough time given people don’t really double or triple KW.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! RW didn’t do too much… more from KD in 2nd half.

  • sws94

    Fair point. PJ gets a lot of fouls called on him. More than Lin. I guess players have to adjust to how a game is called. It’s a challenge because how do you guard Westbrook and deal with screens without some physicality and contact involved?

  • guest

    If Jlin keeps closing out games, the NBA officiating last two minute report, can maybe show patterns if the games are close. It won’t matter if the games are blow outs though or if refs get him into foul trouble early in the games, which they’ve been doing.

  • sws94

    Kemba didn’t play great D on Westbrook. He got help that Lin didn’t get at first. And sometimes from Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    I disagree because everyone knows, refs included, that JLin can change the game substantially. So, easy with the whistle blowing gives the refs more influence if they go with JLin or not. Maybe part of the superstar thing is they don’t want to foul out a LeBron because of fan backlash. Who’s ever going to complain if you foul out Psycho T or Cody? So, blowing phantom fouls on JLin should have the same standard as when you do it for other guards who can change the game to easy buckets.

  • occupatio

    Nice post.

  • sws94

    What is the minutes distribution in this plan? And how do you divide time Lin is not on the court with Kemba?

  • tom

    That’s why hes unguardable and the league is pushing for him to be the next oscar robertson or wahtever he gets superstar treatment

  • tom

    I think the league tells you which players get superstar treatments and they officiate accordingly because they also gamble on the games and stuff
    dont think its just Lin

  • tom

    makes more sense

  • occupatio

    What you’re saying was apparent already from beginning of season. Certainly it’s been said long ago on this site.
    Diff was that team was still winning then.

  • TTNN

    Lin/Kemba/Batum split the time, to have two out of the three on court at the same time.

    Like Lin could came out at 6 min 1Q, start the 2Q, and lead the 2nd team and come out at 6 min, and back in at 9 min. Then second half, come out 6 min at 3Q, and play full 4Q. That will be average 33 min.

    Kemba could play full 1Q, join 6 min of 2Q, and the same as second half, that will be average 36 min.

    Batum could come out at 9 min first Q, come in at 8 min second Q, and the same as in the second half, that will be 34 min per game. You have all three to start and finish every half, and Lin had time to lead 2nd team, and Kemba had time to lead second team too.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin guarded westbrook for most of the first haif. this is a fact. Kemba did better then lin on him. idk why, maybe rust.

  • sws94

    Thanks. I like it. That sort of minute distribution is sustainable. If one is out, then of course, they play more minutes.

  • TTNN

    yes, Lin helped a lot on Kemba. Kemba give up a play way too early.

  • sws94

    Had more help and Westbrook gave the reigns over to Durant to dominate. Lin was slowed down some due to the ankle and he had some rust on him.

  • Rick Johnson

    ‏@JLin7
    West Coast Best Coast!! @spencerhawes00

    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/683747978280964097

  • occupatio

    Optimized Lin should always close quarters. He draws fouls the best so not closing with him is to waste the bonus period that makes non shooting fouls into free throws.

    Cliff has mostly understood this. Whatever the minutes distribution is , Lin should always close quarters.

  • sws94

    Spencer is going out west but he hasn’t been able to play for 5 games now. Does it even make sense?

  • TTNN

    according to that theory, you should start Lin every quarter, get them into foul trouble early……

  • TTNN

    So does that hand gesture means a “W” there?

  • CT

    Yes. “W”est.

  • occupatio

    Kemba’s go to is midrange jumper. That doesn’t produce fouls. Getting into bonus is one thing but maximizing it is another.

  • JoeTeam

    that would be bad, if there is a memo going around. It would take away all things possible from kids …

  • Acbc

    Sorry JT, I didn’t mean to be harsh anything. It’s just that there are so many tiger fans lurking that hopefull my examples about little known athleticism that people take for granted. I apologize if I was rude or anything.

    In tennis, there are footwork specialists that teach top players how to run. I wonder if colleges and pro teams have these types of specialists. We always complain about how weak our bigs are but it just may be that they’ve got weak balance centres. Ki or Chi is a little too hocus pokus for most people, but I think there’s some truth to it. Our bigs are fearful and hesitant and they often get too stiff in resistance to force. IMO, what happens when you push against someone who has good Ki, they are supple like a dead weight that constantly shifts. Like kids that don’t want to go to bed. They squirm and chnage their centres constantly to work doubly hard. Kids that stiffen up and squirm are taken to be very easily. Lol.

    All these white GMs draft black players because they think they are better athletes. Guys like Hawes, Zeller and Frank aren’t helping their own cause. Guys like psycho T are challenging the myth. Unfortunately, he’s a little hyped up anytime he gets to play.

    Lin is trying to break that stereotype as well and it boogies my mind when I hear Lin fans talk about bad Lin handles and lateral quickness. Last year when Lin was with Lakers, he made this sick behind the back crossover move on the top of the key. He did exactly the clay court slide ON HARDWOOD and left his man in the dust. He did everything a great footwork pro would do. It was a thing of beauty.

  • sws94

    Good point. Lin gets fouls a multitude of ways. He draws offensive charges, moving screens as well as driving the ball to the rim. Kemba draws far less that way.

  • JoeTeam

    hi Mod, I got a game recap in Mod, thank you.

  • tom

    This one former NBA ref wrote a book about it
    They liked Kobe and hated AI so they made sure Kobe became a legend and AI dissapeared

  • occupatio

    and more directly to your pt, let’s keep in mind that getting into the bonus and profiting from bonus (by converting PFs to FTs) are not separate. from this perspective, if u can only play lin either the first 6 min or the last 6 ,in of a quarter, it is better in the last 6 minutes because he can do BOTH: get team into bonus as well as profit from it.

    if he plays only the first 6 minutes, he helps get the team into bonus but the team doesn’t fully maximize the profit.

  • blubell

    Thank you for looking out for me Acbc! His ban was long time coming and this is the last straw. LOL. Bb8 was so cute so I’ll take it as a compliment 🙂

  • JLINFAN7

    I do like Lin in Charlotte more than LA and Houston and believe that it is an important stepping stone for him. However, I really want to see Jeremy reunite with Mike D’Antoni because it seems like MDA is the ONLY coach in the nba who will truly give lin the reigns to the offense. Also, with Lin in Charlotte he is playing much more off guard than he was in LA and Houston. Or when he is playing the point, Jeremy Lamb always calls for the ball right away so it makes it impossible for lin to really get anything done. There have been very FEW PICK AND ROLLS set for JLIN recently, which is certainly his bread and butter. I really hope this improves because otherwise, Coach Clifford is wasting lin’s talent regardless of how well lin performs on defense.

  • occupatio

    Lin’s ability and tendency to draw fouls is unmatched on the team, and is top-tier in the league.

    It’s different from Harden and Durant, because they produce mostly shooting fouls, whereas Lin produces all kinds, including many NON-shooting fouls. But during the bonus period, these are equivalent to shooting fouls, so the team should always close quarters with him.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! West coast.

  • blubell

    Hello Joe. Approved 🙂

  • occupatio

    There are actually two separate issues here:
    1. whether Lin gets to run the offense (as well as handle the ball in transition);

    2. whether there are plays run for him to score.

    It’s possible to for Lin to not get #1, but get #2. However, on this team he often gets neither.

    For example, you’ll notice that when Lin does run the offense while Kemba is in, it is a play that frees Kemba off the ball so he can be fed to score. In which case, you could say it’s Lin running the offense, but it’s really just a set play for Kemba.

    In realistic terms, #2 is more likely to happen before #1 occurs on this team. Either way, he’s nothing but a secondary player on this team.

  • Dorothy

    Here is the reason why the guy got a red card last night: He complained to Kevin Durrant he was too close to him. http://www.sbnation.com/2016/1/2/10703258/hornets-fan-screams-kevin-durant-red-card

  • BobbyH

    NBA just doesn’t get customer is always right. If somehow there is a competitive league to NBA, no one would watch NBA. Lin, after you retires, starts one with no biased ref, no hero ball with fair compensation structure. This whole NBA is corrupted.

  • jlinfan7

    agreed. It just sucks that Lin has to create his own plays all the time when batum and Kemba are getting tons of screens set for them. Do you think Jlin moving to Philly would be a good move on his part? He would certainly be the starting point guard, but the main underlying issue would be is Philly going to continue to tank next season.

  • TTNN

    The problem is, when Lin run the offense, he is setting Kemba up, when Kemba is running the offense, Kemba is trying to set himself up. So Lin got no play. He usually is the security one who trying to finish when Kemba or Batum could not get the offense going at the first try, or when the defense goes at them. Batum would pass the ball to Lin when there is 10 s left, but Kemba would kept it even when he had nothing.

    Now Lamb and Kaminsky also started to do that, so when Lin pass the ball to them, it will never come back and they will shoot contested.

  • LinMad

    he’ll be fined for gang signs

  • 1mtoldman

    the interesting thing is: all that being true, not only in terms of advanced types of stats but just in terms of raw simple production: over the last 7-12 games lin is getting minutes, is scoring in double digits virtually ever nite (7 strait, 9 of 10 and 10 of 12 i beleive)–and raising all his ratings.

    now perhaps it has just been injuries illness of other players that have produced that but it doesn’t actually feel that way.

    and with no one really other than walker producing otherwise (al and mkg out for good basically) batum in and out and sketchy when there; lamb obviously reverting to his historic mean and kaminsky clearly not “there” yet as a nightly threat; well the bottom line is:

    whatever the reasons for, after being at a point before the “hairsanity” game where he was in danger of just continuing to decline right down the line to a deep bench player nba projection here in charlotte; that has been reversed and despite any and all limitations is having not only within this stretch of games but in terms of elevation of the season overall the highest productivity since linsanity/new york.

  • 1mtoldman

    there is always and often on all sites a wide variety of opinions tho on what constitutes a troll.

  • 1mtoldman

    no one understands why hairston plays. he doens’t play much. tho its not uncommon a lot of teams it seems have one guy who is kind of useless who starts but then doens’t play a lot of minutes.

    i didn’t see the last game but recently lin had been basically subbing for hairston, lin taking over hairstons minutes.

    some have argued he’s there as a “placeholder” for mkg; but that would only make sense of otherwise sub patterns remain consistent and clearly they do not.

  • JoeTeam

    If you werethere you would know I have no doubt

  • JoeTeam

    Thank you go Lin#

  • JoeTeam

    Thx. Like all money.things, it evolves too

  • JoeTeam

    We’re good. Glib you can get away with but it’s not a good habit so im glad you posted a truth.

  • JoeTeam

    Btw love what you wrote on footwork. Now I’m remembering cross country and trying to teach my college friends who never ran how to stride smoothly. One takes good coaching fir grabbed.

  • LinMad

    If this team ever wants to get back to playoffs, they need bigs who can actually play like bigs. I’m talking about setting up screens and getting rebounds. We have enough scorers already. Why not just use some of the bigs to setup plays to make it easier to score for the guards and then get rebounds for 2nd chance points.

    The reason we lost last game was defense/rebounds. We just have too many bigs who want to score and not do the dirty work. This also makes the guards get tired faster cause they are not only having to worry about perimeter defense, they also have to be around the basket to get the rebound.

  • KL

    I think there were 3 different phases. The first phase, Bench Force 1 was still gelling. Lin’s minutes were erratic. 2nd phase, Bench Force 1 was rolling and Kemba had slightly less minutes. After Al went down, there is now a 3rd phase where Kemba and Batum are getting more minutes and Bench Force 1 has been broken up.

  • KL

    Can you remember if Hawes was playing in the Raptors game? As I said, he might be more important than he is given credit for. Also I think the Raptors defence allowed a lot of backdoor cuts unlike the OKC defence.

  • KL

    Zeller is a mystery to me. He seems athletic and I think his screens are decent. (In my view, Marvin Williams sets the best screens). But Zeller has trouble rolling after the screen and is an awkward scorer. It seems like he only has a few simple ways of scoring and does not have a real offensive repertoire at NBA level. Also his rebounding is very suspect. Overall I think Zeller just lacks court sense and finesse. Not sure why Williams is slumping.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    How much would Biyombo had fixed the rebounding and rim protection problem….Thunders got too many second chance through offensive rebound and their guard were able to come inside at will and dominate.

    Hornets made the wrong choice when they decided to let Biyombo leave and kept Zeller…My guess is it was between signing Biyombo and trade Zeller OR keep Zeller and let Biyombo leave.

    Biyombo may never score double digit point in his career, but he looks like he will average at least 10 rebound per 36 and a few block shots…That’s something I don’t think Zeller will do in his future.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Marvin has a bit of the same problem that Zeller has..He doesn’t have much offensive move in his repertoire..He’s basically a 3 and D guy..Simply a 3 point jump shooter.

    Alongside Zeller, he’s part of the problem why the Hornets are getting destroyed on the board….Even with AL and Haws on this team, they are still an average rebounding team.

    This is where Cho messed up..He doesn’t have no big man that specializes in getting rebound and protecting the rim..The only guy they had for that was Biyombo and they foolishly let him leave for nothing.

  • Acbc

    He just recently had double double with 12pts and 10 rebounds while subbing in for Valentunis. I watch the raptors games a lot and he’s just scary tough. I keep shaking my head every time I see him play. He rebounds like crazy but what’s impressive is that Lowrey just drops easy bunny passes to him underneath and he flushes every time.

  • JoeTeam

    Bummer, check the news feeds esp TTNN … JLin may not play tomorrow night at GSW.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/1772/jeremy-lin

  • sws94

    I don’t know. That’s up to Lin and his team and to weigh their priorities going forward.

    I look at city, standings, organization, media, etc. I was scared that Charlotte with the small Asian community would show a similar racism and stupidity shown in Houston. I’m presently surprised it doesn’t. Philly has its own culture. I think at Lin’s age Philly as it is now is a bad idea. How it will be in the future is anyone’s guess.

    I’m not pro returning to MDA. Although I’d love to see a creative coach utilize Lin I think he’s a multi-dimensional player who is finally getting acknowledged for his excellent defense in Charlotte. With DMA, he’s considered great for DMA’s system and a really good PnR player but a coach that doesn’t stress defense. Since I think the NBA is full of ball hogs and egos, and Okafor, the star player, has a chance to become one, Lin needs to learn how to play great off-ball and with ball-dominant players. In systems where there’s some of that, Lin not as the focus, has a chance to produce even when he isn’t having a system designed around him. And he can as he did in Houston with multiple 30 point plus games, the Lakers after ASB where he had a string of 20 plus point games and Charlotte at least once with a 35 point game. Yes, the ball dominant guys weren’t playing in some of the games, that’s true.

    I think Lin may have to leave Charlotte because MKG will throw him out of the closers squad. And I think it is essential for Lin to close wherever he is. So then there may be the Pelicans, maybe the Nets, other teams to consider. But it is still early.

  • DX

    Damn, he shouldn’t play yesterday.

  • sws94

    Questionable along with Batum and Hawes.

  • Yascar

    News picked up by Bonnell now. A Lin fan asked if he was ok since he played against OKC, no reply yet.

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/683804652387741697

  • your son’s voltaire

    Marvin and Zeller are both excellent in what they do. the problem is batum and kemba don’t know how to get them involved in the offense. the team is basically playing heavy isolation which sucks for everybody except the two guys who are doing it (batum and kemba). Lamb and Tank does it a lot these days too. clifford better fix it soon

  • CJSHYY

    So Lin is back to questionable list?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It really don’t matters how many chances he misses…A good coach will make sure he’s utilized correctly with enough offensive player around him so that his offensive problems is not problematic….At the end of the day, what it gives you is much more than what he can’t give you.

  • I have the same thought that JLin year in the Hornets might be short-lived since MKG return will reduce JLin’s playing time. Kemba’s history and presence will always minimize JLin’s contribution since the Hornets has defined a clear role for JLin to empower the bench in essentially his 1-yr contract so it won’t threaten Kemba’s position as the starting PG (although he’s clearly a talented SG trapped in a smaller body).

    I think as Lin fans we may have different opinions if Lin’s return to MDA system will be good or not.
    Personally I believe the benefit of given the chance to see if JLin can be a franchise player in an MDA system for a whole season is an interesting proposition. It’s definitely better than being a role player to provide defense in the current Clifford’s system in order to survive. When MKG comes back, he will become dispensable. That’s the harsh reality.

    But still, a lot of things have to go right and it depends on what JLin and his team will see as the best opportunity to be thrive in the NBA. I’d like to see if JLin team would think 76ers is a better destination after Colangelo and MDA are present now. I worry about reversing the losing culture that is hard to do but the good thing is JLin team can wait and see if Colangelo and MDA can improve 76ers to play hard and win more games that they shouldn’t have won to reverse the losing mentality.

    It’s fun being a Lin fan to watch him to help the Hornets to go to the playoff (and wait for opportunities to shine) this season while watching what options might open up for him next offseason 🙂
    It’s never boring being a Lin fan to watch his journey to persevere among many trials and give his best in the NBA.

  • JoeTeam

    yup. like curry too, shin in his case. Barnes is coming back Monday, so we’ll see after weeks on his ankle how he plays.

  • donsmacau

    Racism against Blacks in the Black NBA?

    If Blacks (75%) in NBA think this about Whites (23%) what the heck do Blacks think about the Asian kid (0.1%)???
    =====================================================
    “Dennis Marshall (father) alleged Kendall wasn’t seeing more court time because he was black, ripping a 76ers “shooter” who is inserted into games ahead of his son — likely Nik Stauskas.

    “How are you a ‘shooter’ and shooting 27% from three?” he wrote, as captured by a Reddit user. Marshall’s Twitter is private. “Can’t guard but play a lot. What do you think the reason is?”

    He didn’t wait too long to unveil his reason.

    “I always said there was racism in sports,” he tweeted. “White guys in basketball are getting every chance to succeed even when they aren’t doing s–t.”

  • occupatio

    my basic response to your question is that philly is not tanking next year. all indications point in that direction. if that is the case, then you can fill in the rest.

  • Yascar

    Yes unfortunately.

  • occupatio

    cliff has evolved. there is no reason that MDA cannot also evolve. he was brilliant to begin with and has gone through many teams and learning experiences (including being fired twice). things in the league have also changed since his time in LA, including GSW as the newest model. MDA has talked about that recently too, what GSW has taught him in refining his ideas.

    also, team defense for MDA’s teams has been unfairly criticized IMO.

    meanwhile, cliff still has shown himself to be uncreative on offense, and his calling card — defense — is failing this year. after consider what cliff has done, or not done, with lin and how cliff has developed, or failed to develop, his role players, i dont think cliff is anything special. above average, but nothing special.

  • occupatio

    in america, discussion about race is always about blacks and whites. asians are not even in the conversation.

    if you look at the US demographics, its 12% black, about 5% asian but asians are practically invisible in the national dialogue on race. and in the nba, obviously its dominated by blacks so the usual issues about discrimination are different from the regular society.

  • sws94

    Absolutely. On the Knicks Chandler, Shump and Jefferies as well as Lin played great defense under MDA.

  • sws94

    Well, that’s his opinion. Stauskas is shooting under his average and seems to be in a slump now. Then it can be a never-ended argument if the dad is pulling the race card or not. Most of the heaviest promoted players in the NBA are black.

  • occupatio

    the fact that cliff barely played biyombo when he was with the hornets says two things: one, that kemba is so limited as a PG that he couldnt do much with biyombo; and two that cliff doesnt know how to use what he has.

  • donsmacau

    Kendall Marshall’s father Dennis obviously feels anybody not Black shouldn’t be playing in the NBA. Even though the NBA is already 75% Black but to the father anybody not black is just getting to play not because of talent but because charity which is (racism).

    Jackie Robinson and JLIN had to overcome real obstacles to even get to play. Now fathers of Black players want to bring it back to the bad old days where only one race plays.

  • adele

    No they were down by 2 points and Kemba has the ball. He didn’t pass it to anybody. Went straight to shoot it missed. He did it again in 5 positions and missed. So the lead just accumulated after that.

  • occupatio

    the most insidious form of racism is when people don’t even talk about it, and believe it’s normal how things are.

  • early game thread for tomorrow
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g34-cha-gsw-game-thread/

    Despite not having 100% healthy ankle, JLin started in place of injured Batum and finished admirably with 15Pts, 4Ast,1Reb,1Stl,1Blk in 34 min. But the Hornets lost 90-109 against a tough, physical OKC team with a lot of shot-blockers (15 blocks for OKC vs 7 for CHA)

    Will JLin play against GSW to begin the 4 game road-trip to the West? (GSW, Suns, Clippers, Nuggets). Curry also might not play so the Hornets have a greater chance to win

    Let’s go, Hornets!

  • JoeTeam

    Fify, occu, Lin is way more than a secondary player in Charlotte. Jk

  • bolero

    Lin said his OK after the OKC game. One of the Lin Garden asked him..Maybe it swell up again this morning..who knows..

  • TTNN

    well, if that’s from Rick I would not pay too much attention. Rick was not with the team and he was in Bayarea yesterday already. He was in Warrior’s game last night actually.

    And it does not looks like the team practiced today, so that’s most likely just a safe report as the team just continue the status, it might not be any new development.

    I think Lin is not 100% for sure, but just by the way he played yesterday, I don’t see him getting worse, especially he was playing in garbage time……

  • TTNN

    I think that was announced by Hornets PR account

  • TTNN

    I think this team’s bigs set up screens all the time, just they don’t really run P&R that much, the bigs don’t really roll hard, they just set the pick to free up the ball handler. Especially they don’t run high P&R which was Lin’s strength.

    The big’s problem is that they could not finish well under the basket. Zeller is kind of soft in terms of not strong enough, he got pushed around and lost his balance easily, and Zeller/Kaminsky/Hawes all don’t have strong grip of the ball, thus they could not secure the ball once after they touch it, it always fumbled away or simplely got snatched away from their hand by other players.

  • TTNN

    Both Marvin and Zeller are not big enough to effectly box out, and secure their rebounding position. They got pushed away, and trying to over jump other people….. Which does not work….

  • JoeTeam

    fingers crossed, then because it’ll be fun to see him in ORCL again. I wonder if his parents still live in PA so they can come too, etc.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Jeremy Lin Plays Well in Charlotte Hornets vs. OKC Thunder Game – Reaction by JDV and PFV
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BayeiCcTgLE