G28 BOS @CHA Notes & Observations

The Hornets lost another game 89-102 against the Celtics.

  • They’re quickly slipping in the Eastern playoff race, slipping to #10
  • It’s the same problem with starters unable to build lead and allowing the Celtics to blow up the lead to 17-20pts in the 3rd quarter with unorganized offense consisting of Kemba and Batum ISOs without much ball movement.
  • When Lin was inserted, he helped with the ball movement but it’s clear that the Hornets way of Batum and Kemba ISOs + some team-ball is not working. Coach Clifford needs to do something big to emphasize excellent ball movement.
  • Starting JLin at PG to stress great ball movement would be a start before more losses pile up.
  • JLin played quite well despite losing his shooting touch in the 2nd half with 12pts/3asts/8rebs/2blk in 32 min

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Guess JLin's stats in Game 29 vs CHA
  • heart

    1*

  • blubell

    1st

  • heart

    Hi Mod!

  • cdblue10

    By the way…Merry Christmas to you all!!!!!

  • blubell

    ๐Ÿ™‚

  • heart

    It becomes a ‘CHORE’ to watch Hornets play. After a game like this, I may as well cut and paste and post my assessment bc the same thing keeps happening over and over again. KW handled PG duty too long in the 1st and 2nd. He only switched w/NB. Either intentionally or clueless that Cliff just won’t let Lin leads 2nd unit by himself. I’d say both. Cliff does not have the “FEEL” for the game in terms of subbing, rotations, time out adjustments, set plays, etc. KW and NB don’t know to control game’s tempo. Cliff’s offense is too simplistic. There are really no good set plays like Celtics.

  • LinMad

    Kemba and Batum on the floor is toxic. Why?

    -Batum is playing PG/facilitating too. Having more assists than Kemba some games.
    -Kemba needs to shoot more/be a SG knowing that Batum is actually the facilitator or else he won’t get any stats
    -Both are stat padders. Batum wants to stat pad for a big contract. Kemba is being Kemba.
    -Narrow vision.
    -Purposely icing out Lamb and Lin?

  • kittyhead

    : ๏ผ‰

  • rookie75094

    I am so mad and sad right now … don’t even know what to say….smh

  • CJSHYY

    Well, Lin got 12. Cliff & Hornets just got what they asked for L. I am OK.

  • rookie75094

    It’s like ground hog day….but not even remotely funny like the movie

  • heart

    Read my post below. We have nothing new to say bc it happens the same way over and over again.

  • rookie75094

    Did the Celtics announcer went racist on Jlin today?… that Hinson guy.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Everything back to old days again. smh!

  • kauaiblue

    What happened?

  • rookie75094

    He went racist on Yao back in 2007…wishing Yao breaking his fingers so can’t use chopsticks

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t think so.

  • rookie75094

    Cool

  • leeda harun

    well it is coaching problems

  • Dorothy

    Don’t forget to vote for Lin

  • Chopz

    They say the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again hoping for different results. Well it’s not working guys, we need to stop the insanity and start the linsanity.

    Clifford waits til the hornets are down 17 points in the 3rd quarter before he finally puts in Lin. Why would you leave your best playmaker on the bench when the game is starting to get away? Lin comes in, runs point and the team gets it back to 9 points, and coach takes Lin back out.

    Then he puts him back in a minute later but this time, Kemba is running point, need I say more? Beginning of the end.

  • LinMad

    If Lin leaves this team and Hornets FO ask why, he should respond, “You already have 2 backup PGs and their names are Kemba and Nic. Enjoy the rest of the season.”

  • golfhacker

    You forgot Brian Roberts too!

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Lin will not stay & Hornets will back to old days again no matter Batum stays or not.

  • John Focker

    The number of Hornets Ls due to politics stands at 9 now. Meaning they could’ve been 24-4, second in the League behind only GSW now.

    But hey, showcasing Kemba and catering to Batum is WAYYYYY more important than being top EC team and playoff run. I’m glad they have their priorities straight. /S

  • Chopz

    yeah, their priorities are “straight” wack.

  • LinMad

    and Troy?

  • leeda harun

    They gonna wait for mkg to comeback

  • heart

    Yep. I posted that very question during that stretch! Why hasn’t Cliff call a time out already? Cliff actually was helping Celtics w/o calling timeout to make adjustments! After Olynyk’s dunk, Cliff still let it go on for a few more possessions… if I remember correctly, SMH!

  • John Focker

    I’d play Tyler and Troy a lot more than Hawes and Lamb.

  • Chopz

    Exactly. Call a timeout, do a backflip, do the splits, do something. This is not a veteran team, this is still a new team so you can’t just let it ride. Phil Jackson you are not Clifford, guys aren’t just gonna play their way out of it.

  • CJSHYY
  • Guest

    Who is the MOD on duty now? Think this site has funny thing going on. Whiteout blacklust..funny

  • John Focker

    Classic case of putting the means before the end, the cart before the horse, etc. The goal is to win, not to woo the players. If Hornets can’t figure that out they’d be the next Sixers. There’s a reason Bobcats had two of the longest losing streaks at 18 and 23.

  • Chopz

    I understand why guys like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson shoot threes from anywhere on the floor anytime they want – it’s because they make most of their shots. At least they shoot some of the highest percentages in the league that is.

    Batum and Walker are a whole different story. They take these long 3 pointers that they miss more often than not, the other teams usually capitalize and score on the other end, and then they try to make a flurry of 3’s to catch up.

    But it’s usually too little too late. You dig a deep enough hole by flinging up every shot under the sun, that by the time it’s all said and done, you’re already buried. RIP.

  • LinMad

    BTW, IT pushing off Lin and no offense call by the refs? C’mon NBA refs. Not again.

  • John Focker

    This is mild considering last game vs. Rox, especially that one PF called on Jeremy’s nose!

  • Brent Yen

    IT particularly loves to shove Lin..

  • John Focker

    So…the point being Kemba/Batum aiming high? (pun absolutely intended) LOL

    Or they just aspire to “Be like Steph”.

  • John Focker

    Thuggish like his friend Mayweather.

  • LinMad

    we need to compile all the bad calls on Lin this season in a Youtube video and send it to Adam Silver

  • John Focker

    Five-hour long movie. Second only to the beard’s flop-cumentary.

  • adele

    Clifford deserves that and all the anointed stars in the team. The face of the franchise? Yes he deserves that too!

  • Acbc

    Sorry guys and gals, didn’t even bother to watch because it just too frustrating. Lol.

    I’m not even sure now if Cliffrod is actually this dumb or can he be playing us all along to force GM and FO to make wholesale changes. Can Clifford be this inept??? I guess we’ll know soon enough.

    One thing good coaches must do is manage team energies and resources. When you have 2 of your most “important” players play 40 minutes a game, there is simply no way they can go 82 games. Is Cliffrod trying to take their legs out like how BS would run suicides the day of games or is he trying to just injure them?

  • Chopz

    Everyone wants to be a sharpshooter but these guys can’t aim, they ain’t Tom Berenger in the movie Sniper. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are the Navy Seals of shooters.

    In other words, Kemba and Batum should be passing more, taking fewer threes and trying to hit more two point shots. That’ll keep the hornets in games so at least they’ll have a chance.

  • grover chang

    I just heard scalabrini, the white mamba, who has a good understanding of the modern offense and defense highlight that LIn was dangerous and Celtics had to be mindful of his playmaking.

  • Acbc

    “The phantom menace”!

  • kauaiblue

    Lol

  • John Focker

    More like all three of Plinkett’s Star Wars prequel trilogy Reviews combined!

  • heart

    Saw that and also the ref didn’t even call a foul on Lee for pushing Lin from behind while he was driving to the basket. That’s why he lost the ball. The ref was standing nearby the action. SMH! There’s something going w/the reffing against Lin… SMH!

  • rookie75094

    Silver will instruct the refs to injure Jlin by not calling anything for him

  • John Focker

    That something is either incompetence or racism, neither of which is pretty.

  • heart

    exactly!

  • grover chang

    So true. What happened to Lin having the 2nd unit to himself for 10-12 minute stretches, remove the deficit, and get the lead. Was this little attention to bench force 1 fame too threatening? Are the starters that insecure?

  • adele

    I’ve been posting about that since then. Same old coaching pattern. Kemba and Batum, the anointed stars need to get their stats win or lose. I’m watching the game just to check if they let Lin manage the rock. But that won’t happen unless somebody will get hurt or somebody is ill. I guess Linsanity can only happen if somebody is ill or hurt on this team.

  • John Focker

    I believe Brad Stevens game-planned for Lin, but wasn’t worried about Kemba/Batum at all. If anything he counted on those two helping the Celtics.

  • adele

    No. This is only good until the all star. They will try to make a run on the play-offs but their goal is to have their star this season. The predictions is that they won’t be in the play-offs so it will be a bonus if they can make it. Otherwise, Kemba has to get his stats no matter what.

  • Chopz

    Yup, you lose enough games and you start to lose ticket sales, and when money gets involved, people start to notice. Just ask the Sixers, just like you said.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Was out until almost the end of 2nd qtr. When I saw how deep the hole was in 3rd qtr when I finally was able to watch, I quit watching altogether but just checked the stat periodically. Guess I’ve lost all my interest to watch Hornets games now despite of JLin playing heavy minutes. The games were just too ugly for me. Not sure whether stubborn Cliff will ever change his lineup and how the games are playing. As long as he continues to let Kemba and Batum to be pgs and JLin has little chance of touching balls, not going to waste my time in watching Hornets games anymore.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Ever since the returning of Batum to the lineup, the HORNETS has lost 3 games with steady decline in offense.
    First game against Washington, first unit scored 62 points out of 101 points.
    Second game against Houston, first unit scored 52 points out of 95 points.
    Third game against Boston, first unit scored 42 points out of 89 points.

    The team points totals and the first unit points total have declined noticeably.

  • Charlie S

    As long as the Hornets are in the playoff hunt (hovering around .500) nothing will change. The organization is too committed to KW and Batum to make drastic changes. Expect this mediocrity to stick.

  • heart

    Very true. Win or Lose NB and KW will get minutes to boost their stats for All-Star. They’re ‘manufactured’ not true stars who cannot make an impact to win in a close game. The few times that have happened were when Lin was allowed to play PG.

  • Acbc

    Don’t blame you. It’s just bad for your sanity when you keep banging your head on the screen.

  • CJSHYY

    Magic plays well now. They beat Rox today. Don’t get why Hornets gave up that good ball movement game for more L?

  • Acbc

    IMO, it started with the Kemba flu game.

  • leeda harun

    Its batum

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  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Safe to say, after the Linsanity game, the Hornets sinks gradually.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL Not going to do that. I just stop watching games. Not going to be upset. Have seen this too many times in the past 1.5 seasons.

  • leeda harun

    Other team going forward but hornet going backwards

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Chopz

    Don’t lose faith lil ms. crocodile Dundee from down under. There’s positives to all this madness as well, I’ve never seen Lin play this well on defense or grab rebounds or be at the right place at the right time than this year.

    Even when his shot isn’t falling, he’s literally willing his team ahead in games or closing the gap from behind. There’s no denying it this year, the stats don’t lie, our eyes don’t lie, and people are starting to notice.

    Brighter days are ahead, remember your birthday brought us the 35 points from the man himself.

  • leeda harun

    Nice shirt ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Acbc

    Yeah, we’re vets of being a Lin fan. I haven’t watched the last few myself.

  • oh my…

  • leeda harun

    Hi Andrew…lol

  • heart

    Like Lakers, do you think that Hornets/Cliff will allow Lin to play his brand after All-Star? Bc right now, Hornets are trying to boost stats for their core players for All-Stars. Hornets narrative about NB has been passed around the media. Bc Celtics commentators discussed NB’s stats and All-star possibility. If it’s the case, will Hornets make the playoffs?

  • leeda harun

    Hoping the progress continues

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! They talked more high on Batum than Kemba. I think Hornets still wants to win but w the style they play right now…. it’s not going to happen.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Merry Christmas to all global JLin fans from Downunder!!!!! This is our Christmas eve here!!!! Weather is uncomfortably humid but not very hot. Can’t sing “I’m dreaming of the White Christmas…..” anymore:-)

  • leeda harun

    happy holidays ๐Ÿ™‚

  • CJSHYY

    Merry Christmas to you too. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • heart

    On a lighher note: Tonight’s Lin sported the headband for the first time in a game (I think). I’d rather like to see his hair spiked up. It makes him look tougher, Not that it has anything to do w/his skills. Just saying…

  • Chopz

    Game recognize game, yes sir.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    No worries! I’m not losing faith on JLin or doubt about JLin’s improvement. It’s just too frustrating to watch Kemba/batum games. I just don’t want to be upset about it. I still have the games on when I can watch but just don’t pay full attention on it. I will watch games when the ball is moving. I will continue to watch highlights and archive games if I miss the actions:-).

  • heart

    Have a Blessed Christmas! Glad to hear from Down Under. Celebrate the true meaning of Christmas!

  • Dan Cohen

    because he is short and some asian guy is taller than him
    so he has to show who is da boss in da nba. not letting no chinese guy beating me at my game.
    it’s semijoking..but I’m sure there is some truth to it.
    either that he is bitter still…about linsanity era.

  • blubell

    very short highlights vid.

  • Dan Cohen

    man, I was watching play by play and it was ugy on ..every time I see ‘missed jumper’ missed jumper..from the hornets.. esp lin,, I cringed. they don’t have the shooting tonight…all of them.

  • leeda harun

    Thanks

  • spiderman

    the stupidity is that playing unselfish team ball would INCREASE their stats, plus wins

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Glad one game I didn’t miss was the one with Toronto. I was glue to my laptop:-) Haven’t watched much besides this one.

  • blubell
  • leeda harun

    Ha ha…..so embarassing

  • Dan Cohen

    zammmmm 0.18..!! eli manning in 1st superbowl win..houdini act..
    I didn’t even see anything..until he cleared everyone and shot it in.. I see all green and out comes a white jersey.

  • Dan Cohen

    u know what is interesting..the law of large numbers..all the eastern conference top teams are what you expect..except for detroit…and boston and charlotte is at the area fighting for it.

  • rookie75094

    I have an idea…Jlin,kemba,and batum each take turn to be the man for 5 games each…whoever win the most get to run the team for the rest of the season….git’er done cliff.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Won’t be able to even watch and/or follow games from Christmas til 3rd January. Will travel around when the games are on. Hopefully JLin will play well with Lakers:-)

  • Dan Cohen

    u don’t have to hope. he will..even with one hand ..with the current state of da lakers.. 2nd worst team of the nba.

  • leeda harun

    With how the team being outcoached….pray for jlin to play his game

  • Chopz

    There goes that spider sense again, wish Clifford, Batum, and Kemba would have some of it.

  • heart

    Yes, or play like in pre-season, right?

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL With current starters how they play their games, I’m not 100% that it’s a win.

  • heart

    After 28 games, most Lin fans on twitters and here echo similar view, i.e. Cliff is stubbornly using KW and NB as floor general and misusing the true floor general Lin who’s waiting in the wing (corner 3).

  • CJSHYY

    Kobe plays well now… I really hope Hornets will not loss to Lakers.

  • heart

    Celtics had same number of TOs in first half. This is what I called CLUELESS:

  • sws94

    Clifford didn’t like the TOs. Said the ball movement and offense did not play world 1st quarter and got better 2nd quarter. It should be off the 2nd PnR and move the ball around. Got the feeling he thinks Frank isn’t strong enough yet but making good progress. Sounds like he was saying they don’t have a guy like Isiah Thomas to create all of the shots so they have to move the ball and play their offense. Said TOs led to being down double digits and they have to stay with the game plan.

    For those thinking he’s going to change the lineup, didn’t see any indication about that. Nothing about Lin specifically either.

  • wu kong

    Merry Christmas! Hot and humid here too. Tornados in the southern USA. No white Christmas here either. ????

  • CJSHYY

    It’s not IT can create better… more like their coach had better game plan than Cliff. As for TO, IT had 5 TO today.

  • Dan Cohen

    still only 5 wins ..individual stats doesnt mean sht…we jlin fans should know that by now…

  • leeda harun

    Jlin can create….but he still depend on batum and walker

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    Lin was 90% or even higher as SG today. He couldn’t do too much w/o the ball.

  • CJSHYY

    Even Lin got the playing time but just no one passed the ball to him again. smh!

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/679823570328010752

  • Dan Cohen

    zammmm .. bringing the big vocabulary now… why not just say confused,etc. For a sec, i thought he said disembowel-ulated or that sort.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    the only hope is that al comes back and the rotations go back to normal: kemba/batum/pj/marv/al then lin/lamb/frank/cody + batum or marv. at the least al demands defensive attention and can hit a jump shot. he also rebounds. zeller has been playing the deandre jordan role but he so soft. he cant finish around the rim and cant get rebounds.

    hopefully al rights this ship. i cant believe im saying this but he is a big part of this team. our bigs simply suck. al is the best of all of them and frank is coming alive. shooting with confidence and finishing much better down low.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    they move the ball back and forth on the strong side, but not side to side. look at spurs and gsw and you see real ball movement: side to side…

  • sws94

    no side to side movement is the problem. Lin tried to cut and such but there was nothing clean. He was game-planned for well and Clifford didn’t counter.

  • CJSHYY

    Somehow I feel they set up for Frank today… maybe they want to start him instead of Al…?!

  • Dan Cohen

    I’m surprised why there is not stephencurry.net site or something like that or currisanity or something like that.

  • Dan Cohen

    the way he is playing this year…it is currisanity.
    So if lin plays like him..there is linsanity? I don’t know.. sound so …condescending on lin.

    If there is no currysanity or westbrookmania, etc, when lin gets to those level, we shouldn’t call it linsanity,no?
    that word is specifically for that era when he was undiscovered and came busrting through the scene.

  • Dan Cohen

    but zeller is starting in place of al..so one has to move.. pj or mw.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    no off ball movement at all. no cuts, nothing. they were switching everything on the perimeter and we just chucked. every single 3rd quarter there is a collapse because for some reason they always come out chucking 3s. we need al to post up. i know its not modern nba, but maybe this team needs some old school to get their groove back.

    look how sullinger abused us tonight with his…. girth…. maybe we need our girth: AL!!!!

  • occupatio

    so psalm, you said 4-5 games. now its down to 3-4 games. im waiting…

  • blubell
  • sws94

    Sullinger is a wide body. He does his job well. Doesn’t have the offensive game Al does but has presence down low.

  • Dan Cohen

    you know… with the team losing like this and lin playing more minutes than during the time when they were winning, they might make lin play less minutes because during the time they were winning, lin played lesser minutes..and al was there. So when alo comes backo, lins minutes will reduce if they are ‘superstitious’.

  • sws94

    Didn’t sound that way from Cliff’s comments. He said Frank is still learning and improving and he needs to get physically stronger. He said good things about him, but I didn’t hear that he wanted to start him. He just had a good game so they went with him.

  • Dan Cohen

    speaking the truth.

  • Dan Cohen

    geez.don’t do tha.t….you are doing lin a disservice by saying that everywhere.

  • sws94

    Lin is going to get minutes. Al is needed to have an inside presence, but his D isn’t great. But he’s there to be that inside guy they can work from. Lin can then go back to running the 2nd unit but Lin is going to finish games and most of the time halves. He came in too early today out of Cliff’s needing another good player in there. But it didn’t really turn it around. When he didn’t come in as early in the 3rd, the deficit was just worse.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    thats also how al gets his rebounds, people cant move him. he surely doesnt out jump them. then we have cody who is soft as charmin… even his dunk tonight was soft like wth throw that ish down!

  • sws94

    Cody’s not a center. I don’t know what he is, he doesn’t really do anything that well.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Lin will get his min maybe not get the ball that much but he will have his playing time & close the game.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    he’s 7 ft tall. if he cant even dunk with force, there’s no helping him… 100% bust

  • sws94

    What happened is the first unit was doing so poorly, they brought him in early so the tide may turn. But Boston kept playing well and Batum/Kemba still were running the Hornets offense poorly.

  • Steppen03

    All for one and One for all.
    We’ll win some and we’ll lose some. I’m disgusted like most Lin fans but reality is: It’s the Nic & Kemba show. At least Lin get more PT. I’m not too frustrated about the losses because it’ll be learning lessons for all involved. With playoff hope on the line – Lin’s usage will only go up. So, I’m fine. Can’t have everything but things are looking better than before. I’ll take 30+ min over 20+ min any day. Can’t win all games – Celtics are a really good team and this means the Hornets still have much room to improve.

  • tom

    If only Kemba had a better vision.
    His handle is really good but he doesnt seem the best at finding open men and batum thinks hes vintage kobe
    Clifford is right this team doesnt have anyone who can do all that thats why they need to move the ball
    They can beat bad teams just fine the way they are but kemba&Batum aint good enough to beat good teams they need to play teamball at least clifford knows

  • tom

    Not the same kind

  • sws94

    I agree, I don’t think IT is as good as Cliff thinks he is. I think Lin is better than IT also.

  • sws94

    He doesn’t get good screens. When he gets decent screens, he’s deadly. This team guys don’t know how to screen that well.

  • occupatio

    lin tonight, it wasn’t simply a bad game, like how players just have bad games sometimes. the main thing is that he wasnt reading and adapting to the celtics defense, seeing what they gave him, but instead he tried to force things that werent there. I have no interest in reviewing the tape so i can’t get into specifics; that’s just my general impression. i consider tonight a learning experience for lin instead of just dismissing it as an ‘off night’.

    cliff really did not prepare the team for the celtics, it’s not just lin looking lost/frazzled, none of the players are seeing the bigger picture.

    there are some things about cliff that after 26 games are clear:

    1. he is not an offensively minded or offensively creative coach. its basically give the ball to certain guys, keep the same sets they run, and pray things go well.

    for example, a very basic thing that will improve the team is to put lin near the middle so he is situated one pass away from kemba instead of in the corner where lin is two passes away from kemba.

    2. cliff does not understand the importance of moving the ball to the weak side to shift the defense and be able to attack closeouts. this idea is so basic that even mchale understood it. EVEN MCHALE. think about that for a second, LOL.

    3. cliff does not look to exploit individual matchups. during two boston games, cliff does not have his team attack IT, but instead initiates the offense with the hornet player that bradley avery is guarding, which is usually kemba. it makes no sense to attack the celtics’ best perimeter defender. what is the point of having ‘multiple playmakers’ that cliff talks about if cliff just uses kemba that is defended the best (by avery) and not use the one who is defended the worst (by IT)?

    generally, when there is a mismatch, cliff does not adjust to it at all. the only person on the court who sees and reacts to mismatches is lin, and he only gets a chance to do that when he runs the offense. lin will either directly feed to the mismatch himself, or, if the mismatch is on the other side of the court, lin pass to a teammate and point to where the mismatch is located to indicate where the ball should go. kemba never does this because he is a clueless PG, and cliff doesnt look for mismatches either.

    4. kemba is untouchable. it doesn’t matter how poorly he shoots or how poorly he runs the offense, he will get 35-40 minutes a night, always.

    these four things will not change even if lin’s role is increased on this team. it’s a very sobering thought.

  • Steppen03

    It’s Not. … When it’s the truth. We all want the Hornets to win more games – and they DO need Lin’s help, More of Lin. KW & NB can still have their PT along with JL7. PG duties have to divide up evenly to involve all 3 playmakers. Now, that’s the right way to play the game.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But too bad, Cliff just wants Lin to be SG all the time…

  • CJSHYY

    I agree.

  • tom

    Couldn’t agree more.
    I might wanna add Batum to No.4 but Kemba is more untouchable.
    Lin forced a lot of shots tonight kind of seemed like he was looking to get his on some of the posessions, which I really don’t mind but He definitely played better on Monday where he was feeding the bigs more and he seemed a little lazy tn…on offence at least and yes Clifford needs more variety in his offence its always the same play didnt really take it in until you mentioned it(1,2 and 3)

  • heart

    As more games played, opponent teams are gelling and getting better. They have studied and game-planned against Hornets’ offense enough by now. Hornets’ offense is too simplistic so it’s easy for opponents to defend. Al returns might help being an inside scorer, but until drastic changes are made in terms player/positions changes, Hornets will have more difficulty going forward. Cliff should at least allow Lin be the floor general PG for longer time w/2nd unit, otherwise it’s harder for the bench to keep bailing out starters.

  • CJSHYY

    Totally agree. I don’t know why Cliff just keep going back to the lose formula? I doubt he will make any lineup change. Cliff needs to let Lin be PG more min. He just refuse to do so. smh!

  • occupatio

    i could keep adding to the list about cliff, but whatever. i dont care.

  • oh yeah, 3-4 more losses will force Clifford’s hand to make some changes.

    But it might be Al starting, or Frank starting as @sws94:disqus suggested; not necessarily Lin starting as he’s still seen as the “1 yr rental to power the bench + will move to another team next year” player.
    I expect Lin would need to “take over” like Linsanity in NY to be a starter but with no finishing big; it’s not as effective as 2012

    I honestly don’t know what Clifford will do to start getting some wins. Batum and Kemba ISOs are misfiring.
    I hope Clifford is desperate enough to try to start Lin in place of Hairston to see how it impacts the starters but actually asks Lin to orchestrate offense.

  • sws94

    I think he wants Lin to be able to facilitate from anywhere on the court as SG when he plays SG. In this game, he didn’t get to run the second unit as long because he came in so early. He wants Lin, Batum and Kemba to facilitate whenever the defense loads up on one or two of them but he hasn’t come up with the schemes and reps to make it happen reliably.

  • occupatio

    and that’s cliff’s fault. after 26 games, no one can set a solid screen except pyscho and that’s because psycho always could, even before he ‘benefited’ from cliff’s coaching.

  • Discombobulated brings the image of ‘convulsing’ next.
    Everyone will see what Clifford will do next to resuscitate the ailing patient

  • occupatio

    more lin can’t improve things by much. less kemba will do wonders.

  • KHuang

    Because Clifford is LOSING HIS TEAM in the Walker Batum vs Lin Lamb conflict!

  • KHuang

    Sorry, but I cannot agree with your insistence that Lin had a “bad” game.

    Lin’s true shooting was more than adequate, his two way team play was terrific, and he won in the minutes allotted to him despite Walker and Batum messing up his minutes.

    To me, this was a more than satisfactory effort by Lin. ONTO THE NEXT GAME.

  • KHuang

    The Hornets have completely abandoned Clifford’s motion offense due to Walker and Batum’s Kobe wannabe hogging.

    Thus Lin cannot truly play his game.

  • KHuang

    Superb post.

    All we can hope for is that LIN GOT HIS – which he did!

    Honestly, I want Charlotte to lose. Any team playing this selfish brand of loser freezout isoball deserves to lose. Not even Lin can or should repair that.

  • KHuang

    NO.

    Say it LOUD AND CLEAR, the louder the better.

    Why should anybody be afraid of LIN’S STATS?

    How about Walker and Batum raising their games? How about it?

  • Spot

    The sooner Jeremy will be traded to Sixers, the better it is.

  • KHuang

    No need – Curry has US!

  • KHuang

    It won’t work.

    Al Jefferson returning simply means more loser isoball.

    The problem is that Walker and Batum refuse to play teamball because they’re being SPANKED by Lin and Lamb!

  • KHuang

    Put him with Lin with Batum and Walker off the court.

    Then Zeller would look like a PLAYER.

  • leeda harun

    The bf1 outperformed the starters

  • KHuang

    In tag team matches, Lin and Lamb are beating the crap out of Walker and Batum in practices and in games.

  • KHuang

    As long as Lin GETS HIS, it’s better for us NOT to care!

  • leeda harun

    I hope lin got many offers

  • KHuang

    But that would mean Walker and Batum actually running the plays that the cannot run and playing the teamball that they’ve dedicated themselves to avoiding!

  • occupatio

    it’s a matter of whether we should be invested in his time in charlotte and whether lin should commit to this team.

    given what i see, i think lin should go do like batum and look for his own stats. it’s a contract year for lin and it’s not worth sacrificing for a team like this.

  • Spot

    I’m good with the one with MDA

  • tom

    Which hes been doing lately

  • occupatio

    well, there is too much trying to pass to bigs who can’t roll or catch the ball, and not enough trying to finish it himself.

    in terms of raising his own value, 2 pts is worth more than 1 assist. half those passes will be asiked anyway.

  • KHuang

    There’s no way the Sixers will trade for Lin this season, but they hopefully will look hard at Lin this offseason.

  • blubell

    Highlights from Jun

  • KHuang

    But Lin IS looking for his own stats.

    He’s playing unselfish teamball, and that’s why his shot attempts and overall stats are rising.

  • CT

    I do think Clifford is the one should take the responsibility for tonight loss. Just like you said he fail to made the adjustment.
    However, for Lin’s play tonight, I have to respectfully disagree.
    Clifford is very detail oriented and very controlled the game play at both ends. I doubt Lin had too much choice when coach asking him kept attacking the rim.

    However, it is a good read of your post indeed.

  • yes, that’s the truth. And less Batum ISOs

  • I agree. I don’t know why Clifford doesn’t insist on Kemba and Walker to stick with the ball movement until people are open

  • Thanks!

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t think Lin will go to 76 this season.

  • occupatio

    on first play, cody doesnt even come up all the way to set the pick.

    on this team, many of lin’s so-called pick and rolls are just lin using the big bring up his defender so lin can blow by him. the ‘screener’ doesnt even set the screen.

  • KHuang

    Clifford KNOWS how to coach all the Xs and Os to win big.

    But he’s too AFRAID of the franchise players Walker and Batum to hold them accountable for not running the offense.

    If Walker and Batum ran the offense properly instead of constantly abandoning it, Clifford would be winning and Walker and Batum would be doing much better.

    Clifford is soon going to learn that NBA coaches that are afraid of their players always get kicked out first.

  • KHuang

    With the team totally abandoning Clifford’s offense, Zeller’s weak picking is excusable.

  • occupatio

    it’s not as if cody was any better about screening earlier in the season.

  • KHuang

    Because Clifford is AFRAID of ENRAGING those two “franchise” players.

    But if Clifford doesn’t start disciplining them, Clifford won’t be around much longer. Doesn’t matter if he has the extension.

  • KHuang

    That’s not Lin’s call.

    Lin’s just trying to get the offense going again so that he CAN take shots.

  • KHuang

    Cody Zeller plays terrific solid teamball when Walker and Batum are off the floor and Lin is running Clifford’s offensive and defensive sets properly.

  • CJSHYY
  • occupatio

    cliff doesnt use minutes management to control kemba and batum. therefore they are uncontrollable.

  • KHuang

    C’mon, Golden State and San Antonio and OKC all do that.

    Most teams do start their best players.

    It’s just that Lin’s teams have NEVER started their best players, which is what happenes when Lin is on the bench.

  • KHuang

    EXACTLY

  • CJSHYY

    He seems to talk about East Conference teams.

  • sws94

    I’m getting the feeling Cliff isn’t ready to start Frank yet from his post-game interview. He just harped on turnovers and lack of ball movement.

  • Briiick

    I haven’t got to watch the game, but I am glad that the 1st unit continued digging holes and Rox kept losing games. Lin’s opportunity to shine gets bigger when Hornets are in a losing streak, which is inevitable as opponents tighten up their defense gradually toward playoff.

  • occupatio

    the distinction between 1st unit and 2nd unit has gotten blurry in the last two games. cliff is using a lot of kemba in the 2nd unit so that unit stops being’s lin’s crew and becomes more like kemba’s. that’s also why the team is worse than before.

  • sws94

    Batum can’t ISO well. Kemba, well, he can dribble around and sometimes free himself for a semi-open look that he’s not knocking down now like he did earlier, so that’s ISO I guess. Batum can play a semi-post up sometimes, but he usually passes out of it.

  • Lam

    How do you know that?

  • sws94

    That’s Lin’s game. Lin loves to get others going. I think we saw Linsanity where Lin drove to the basket so much and scored we have a skewed view of him. He’ll occasionally get his points. But much of Lin’s points come at the line, in either lay-up attempts or penalty fouls. Lin likes to dish.

  • occupatio

    lin won’t change this about his game, for better or worse, so i guess it’s not worth discussing.

  • sws94

    Cliff said they aren’t executing the offense. But he has to change that. Next game. He’s the head honcho.

  • sws94

    TOs, forcing the issue, ball-security, field-goal percentage, none of these were as good as the last game. Lin also had no 4Q magic. That’s not a good game for Lin. Ended up with empty stats, but not impressive empty stats.

  • sws94

    I don’t know if it is but if coaches tell him play his mid-range game, hopefully he’ll look for that more. Funny thing, he took a wonderful mid-range shot soon after he came into the game.

  • cdblue10

    Trade Kemba and Zeller with a 3&D guy with a solid ball handling ability and a center that really can play center and this team would be a contender

  • sws94

    When he first came to the Hornets I just kept wondering who is going to set screens for him. The answer is, nobody really does. Sometimes Zeller manages to set a decent one. Sometimes.

  • occupatio

    early in the season, i can understand why cliff didnt play hansbrough — he fouls too much and he prolly didnt understand what cliff wants from him in team offense. but after 26 games, you would think that a decent coach would have done something with hansbrough to make him useful. but no, it hasnt happened.

    instead cliff goes to cody who can’t do most things bigs are supposed to do. nor does he a jumper to make up for it.

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff just never made any adjustment well or even think about to change it?! smh!

  • KHuang

    OK.

    But even in the East, most teams do start their best players.

  • KHuang

    That’s what’s happening in games, and Lin has a history of being frozen out by irate teammates that Lin beats up in practice.

  • cdblue10

    If us as a regular fans can see it,I guessed Clifford knows about this but it seems his hands are tied or just so scared to butt heads with his players.

  • KHuang

    NO.

    Lin was a PLUS player in a rugged roughhouse but clean game.

    Last game has no bearing on this game. Different opponent, different day, different everything.

    Lin played well enough to WIN in the minutes he was given. That’s what basketball is about, WINNING.

  • KHuang

    Totally agree.

    Let’s see if Clifford does anything.

  • Acbc

    Cliffrod got outcoached. The zone defence takes away the Kemba interior attack and forces ISO is range or 3s. Frank had length and shooting to take it inside but it was more that they focussed on stopping Lin than Frank.

    I just don’t understand why people keep wondering why Lin tries to involve his teammates. He’s the only one that changes the opponents defence to have to cover 5 guys and not 2. Kemba and Batum makes it so easy to create defence that guarantees a win. Make them shoot as much as possible from outside and brick all day. Lin express makes the team unpredictable. That’s why you have guys like Frank, Lamb, Hawes, Zeller, Marvin feeding off of Lin on second unit.

  • Briiick

    Yes, this is the same as McHale did to Lin, always paired him with Harden so that he won’t get the blame from Harden if Lin outshined Harden, because Harden always controlled the ball.

  • sws94

    The team lost.

  • Acbc

    Del Curry mention something to that effect on air. Quite shocking really.

  • KHuang

    SO?

    Lin is NOT RESPONSIBLE for the team getting beaten to death when he’s sitting on the bench and isn’t even in the game.

  • KHuang

    I wish that Clifford would go back to his preseason lineups, as the team would win almost every game.

    But that is not realistic because Walker and Batum and Al Jefferson were not playing that much.

  • Lin Win

    I believe the culprit to Kemba’s shooting is just because he’s playing too long. He’s reverted back to shooting very poorly at 0.355% in the last 5 games and 0.13 3P%

    Kemba often plays even when Lin gets subbed in in the 1st quarter. He then continues to play a few minutes into the 2nd and leaves. Batum takes over and we all know what happen’s to Lin.

    Kemba is playing insane mins for the last 4 games! 41mins 41mins 41mins 44mins.

  • KHuang

    Clifford has sorta adjusted.

    He sends LINSTRUCTOR into the game to try to get enough teamball going such that Walker and Batum’s bricking iso game would be offset.

  • KHuang

    With Walker and Batum selfishly breaking the offense, adding or reducing their minutes will not get better results from them.

  • heart

    We have to remember, Hornets’ goal is to get KW & NB to stat-pad for All-Star votes. Hence, longer PT than others no matter how they play. Yet, they still couldn’t make that many points or assists for their teammates. They cannot even make an impact for a win. FO/Cliff allow this!!!

  • 2 great passes by Lin and Zeller with Frank to finish

    http://i.imgur.com/m7i9NIv.gif

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    We had a 15 minutes heavy rain earlier when I helped to prepare Christmas dinner. Now it’s just some drops here and there!!!!! Since I left US ages ago and now resides in DU, can’t even dream for white Christmas anymore. For all those years that I resided in US, didn’t believe I experienced even one white Christmas:-(

  • 1mtoldman

    well i was just doing these numbers except i was doing them for last 6 games of the 1-5 stretch;

    over that time walker is 351 /185 and yeah that mins line. besides playing 4 strait games of 40+ minutes the amazing thing to me is that exact 3 games 41 minutes each game like, its set in stone regardless.

    he will play 41 minutes. (set in cornerstone i guess i should say).

    meanwhile (again this is over last 5 of 6 game losing streak) batum isn’t a lot better:

    378/250 (overall and 3p%)

    lin on the other hand is 478/375

    another interesting number walker and lin have scored the exact same # of points in those 6 games:
    97

    so…with walker playing 41 minutes leaves 7 minutes for the “backup point guard” role lin allegedly came here to play.

    except lin is almost never on the court without either walker or batum and when batum is in the game he is the defacto point guard. so leaves lin about what 3 or 4 minutes at his supposed position.

    actually its interesting to me it seems lin is basically hairstons sub. lin tends to spend at least half his time guarding the 3 of the other team.

    when batum is on the court he seldom drops to the 3. and of course any minutes lamb gets (declining) are at the 2. so even lins minutes as shooting guard decline. i guess its supposed to be a “positionless” league now, lins’ primary position it seems on 80% of the plays is the “go stand in the corner on the side away from the play”.

    it seems lin has been down shifted from 1 to 2 to 3. (not sure about this last supposition but no question it is hairston he’s replacing in the lineup both early and late for the most part and no question he is in recent games finding himself guarding the other teams 3 as much as 2 or 1.)

    course this last game i had flashbacks to houston where it often seemed like lin was guarding all the players on the other team in sequence on the same play by himself.

  • sws94

    At the end of the night, he’s answering reporter’s questions on a loss, not a win. After the Toronto game, because of a bad time out call, he got to play OT and score 35 and answered questions on a W. If your team doesn’t win, it’s a losing effort. Linsanity was great because the Knicks won, not because Lin got his. It’s because was the key to them winning.

  • Nice Batum pass to a cutting Frank. Watch how Lin slowly walked back knowing the deed is a done-deal

    Plus a great intelligent play by Frank to get off a shot. Lin/Kam are 2 intelligent players

    http://i.imgur.com/U188lZH.gif

    http://i.imgur.com/LT81Wqk.gif

  • tom

    He cant always scoreSome assists help
    11-4 is better than 16-1

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It’s time to bring back lin’s recent comment; they wanted me to play like Linsanity but how can I do that without the ball?

  • your son’s voltaire

    serious big boy play by Lin right there

  • sws94

    Not sure if Lin got lucky that Cody was there or that was his plan all along. Cody made good feed to Frank who had good read to do a fake and then shoot it. Good ball movement and good results.

  • your son’s voltaire

    kemba has Lin-blinders on

  • your son’s voltaire

    key to winning.. “Walker and Batum and Al Jefferson were not playing that much”. give those guys 25 minutes each

  • Lin Win

    Sorry I wholeheartedly disagree about the All-star stuff, I don’t think coaches care about it. It’s just an absurd reason!

  • John Focker

    Kemba shoots poorly but 0.355% is abysmal, making 4 per 1000 attempts!

  • John Focker

    If so then only GSW and Spurs can give them a fair fight.

  • occupatio

    i dont put much stock in the all-star-game theory regarding kemba and batum. but that explanation is as good as any, considering that cliff’s actions dont make much sense as it is.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Batum is not an efficient playmaker and he’s rather slow in playmaking.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Brilliant play making.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Coach gives Batum a new role on the team that he has not done before. So far I’m not impressed with Batum’s play making capability. Ever since Batum comes back, the Hornets are playing without a soul.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Too big the hole.

  • adele

    Im with you Heart. People here might not see it but they don’t listen to the Hornets announcers during the games and check the Hornets website in the nba. They are actively promoting Kemba for the all star. The coaches know about the all star because they have to vote the bench players in the all star. The starters are being voted by the fans. All coaches are required to vote for the all star!

  • adele

    Yes but if you check with the Hornets website, Kemba is playing great like an all star caliber player. They don’t mention the poor shooting percentage. All they mention are the stats. They know that Kemba doesn’t have a lot of followers but they know that all around nba, it will be circulated and talked about. So even if the coaches are not really paying attention to previous play of the player, they look at the stats and of course the face of the franchise and how he is mentioned all the time and promoted by the franchise.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    PFV & John D. Villarreal

  • adele

    We paid for the league pass every year and we record all the hornets games with the Hornets announcers. Every game, they have to mention about how Kemba is playing well. At least one or two mentions. And of course it made me sick to my stomach. Plus when I go to their website and check the news, the big vote for Kemba is there.

  • adele

    No matter how deep your analysis about the plays, but the result is a successive loss, you think the coach is doing a good job? No matter how many question marks and wondering why Clifford is doing this and that, you can see the answers in their billboards. Losing doesn’t matter as of this time the franchise needs an all star. They have to have that. We can only complain about it but we just have to understand. I don’t care anymore if they lose or win. All I care about is for Lin to open his eyes and ears and play his part well. Just dont get hurt or injured in the process. Keep up the excitement and know that someday soon your moment to shine like a star will come.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You call that play making!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Let’s settle this once for all.
    Close door match: the first team vs the the second team
    Hairston, MW, Cody Zeller, Kemba, Batum vs Lin, Lamb, Hawes, Kaminsky + whatsoever left.
    Winner gets the starting role

  • adele

    We can only wish but maybe that will happen after the all star when the Kemba all star campaign is done. Then their goal is trying to win. Hopefully Lin will capitalize on that goal and improve his stats for next season opt out and signing.

  • adele

    Hansbrough dont forget.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Jeremy walked with the ball at 2:53…he took 5 steps..wow, pretty funny..lol

  • 1mtoldman

    moi? yer asking me if i think “clifford is doing a good job”? hey ive never said that. ive never given clifford the benefit of the doubt that was some other wind blowing from another direction (maybe at a very high rate of speed?)–in fact i said earlier in the season: perhaps lin has been thrown over a “cliff”. (or “lance-d”)–but (with the hairsanity game and even b4 that) lin has turned his season around despite his circumstances, adapted to them as he also has and is actually statistically having overall and especially in terms of analytics that supposedly people pay attention to now the best season hes had since linsanity/new york.

    as batum/walker continue to fall back “regress to their norm”. (or worse), and (if) lin continues to rise as the hornets fall riding the batum/walker continuum it will be interesting to see where those two trajectories intersect.

    i dont think cliff will continue to be given the benefit of the doubt even outside lin fans if the team keeps on losing big time.

    btw i like that line “you can see the answers in their billboards” could be used and extended as descriptive phrase for many things.

  • Kwok Wai Lai
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Anyone still believe the Hornets made the right choice not re-signing Bismack Biyombo?..Bismack is averaging 9 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per game…They could had really used him last night on the glass.

    Charlotte still need a rim protector…With Lin and Kemba as guard, the opposite team will get dribble penetration and Bismack would had been good at protecting penetrations.

    Also, how bad is Hawes?…I know he’s good for at least 1 3point shot a night, but overall, he’s been terrible…He has poor hand, average rebounder, no rim protection…Basically, you only have him on the floor to shoot 3 and nothing else…I think they need a bit more than that from Hawes

  • Acbc

    Good work as always.

  • Dan Cohen

    no…
    he has tunnel vision to the basket.

  • Dan Cohen

    hahahah i read some comments here and it’s all talking about batum, lin, walker, al, zeller, kam… this and that..and if you change them to that you might win and etc.

    somehow, I have a feeling that they can actually really form Voltron….just that the pieces are there but aren’t connected to the right positions..the feet is the arm and the arm is the feet and the black main center body piece is right now an arm fitting into a blue lion. when before it was acting as a feet fitting into a blue lion. (yes voltron..love voltron as a kid and ‘into the badland’s’ episode 6, the epic finale, also reminded me of voltron recently when the abbots/monks formed ‘voltron’ during the sword fight with sonny.)

  • Acbc

    When Clifford said in the post game that they don’t have anyone like IT with speed and quickness to distribute, I SMH. Clifford doesn’t put Lin on IT and control the 5’9″ mouse and insists on using Kemba to make IT look good. But it says a lot about what he really thinks of Lin’s game.

  • grover chang

    Zeller to second unit and Jefferson takes usual role in first team.

  • CT

    Wow!! Congrats Batum!! Happy for him.

  • grover chang

    Well, for the casual fan it doesn’t work. No one knows who Walker is. Was sitting with Rocket fans in Houston the other night. They didn’t know who played for the Hornets. All they knew was Jeremy Lin and Michael Jordan. LOL. Did you know who played for the Hornets before Lin arrived?

  • grover chang

    No.. Lin-blinders. He passed to other players, just not Lin. He knows now what Lin will do with the ball. Basically things he is incapable of doing.

  • Guest

    My post was upvoted after posted then completely disappeared.

  • guest

    I think Lin knows it too well by now that he can’t clean up the mess and reverse the deficit the starters created every time he and the 2nd unit subbed in.
    There will be 54 games that Lin and the 2nd unit will have to play very hard to win the game for the Hornets but its simply too taxing to do it day in day out and it isn’t guaranteed that they will eventually get the last playoff berth…so maybe it’s feasible to have decent stats eventhough the team is 10th in the Eastern Conference…sigh

  • grover chang

    Also difficult when the starters don’t ever really leave the 2nd unit alone. Walker or Batum is always on the court cramping the bench’s game.

  • guest

    That’s right…just too difficult..thanks to whoever make such decision to “protect” the starters

  • KHuang

    Of course you are right.

    But imagine Voltron with the head going off doing it’s own thing while the body does something else.

  • BobbyH

    It seems that Hornets wants to pad their stars stats before ASB at the cost of winning. Here comes the brutal January schedule with 11 roads games vs. 5 home games.

    At this rate of playing, bye bye playoff. Just get yours Lin,

  • KHuang

    It definitely was the right choice.

    Biyombo is a clueless player whose only skill is standing in the middle on defense and waiting for guards to attack the lane to block shots.

    Biyombo doesn’t actually stop anyone (Lin 35 Walker 27), cannot guard his man, cannot read the court, and cannot play team basketball.

    On this Charlotte team, he’d slow the offense to a crawl and would not help defend the perimeter. It would be the worst of both worlds in that Biyombo would be a sieve drfensively but would add to the isoball problems that Walker and Batum already cause.

  • KHuang

    Unfair to the 1st team.

  • Acbc

    Walker 41/10pts is just sad. Bench lin 12, Lamb 12, Tank 23= 47pts. Starters total 42 pts.

  • Acbc

    Come on Khuang, the guy had 7 blocks that night. 2 on Lin and 2 on Walker as well as 18 rebounds. I don’t care how clueless the guy is in the past but he’s definately a force now. He just had a 20 rebound game 2 nights ago.

  • Dan Cohen

    exactly.only a few limit minutes are they not on the floor..
    i don’t get why they have to have a starter in there..

  • Acbc

    Totally unfair. They’d need a handicap, maybe just have Clifford coach the bench! Lol

  • your son’s voltaire

    not voltron but the three headed serpent monster

  • CJSHYY
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He starts to be like bs, blame his players first.

  • JoeTeam

    wow, I missed the game and this says it all. I saw the highlights and JLin was fighting from behind the whole time. seemed. Ah well, it’s up to the coach to decide to win.

  • CJSHYY
  • David Kim

    No Rose? Maybe they need Rose for Valentine’s Day? LOL just kidding..

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly, they didn’t let Lin be PG. Cliff didn’t have any idea what to do? smh!

  • 717

    A message of hope for JLin’s faithful fans

    (you know who you are)

    At this current low point in the JLin saga, take encouragement from the realization that JLin is only a heartbeat away from regaining his rightful place as an NBA starter. In fact the heartbeat may belong to any one of three players: Hairston, Kemba, or Batum. How do we know this? When Hairston was unable to play in the Sixers game, Jeremy got his first start of the season. When it appeared that Kemba would be unable to play in the Pistons game, it was announced that JLin would start in his stead. And, when Batum sat out the Raptors game, JLin got the start and delivered an epic Linsanity game: 47 minutes in the tail-end of a back-to-back, lock-down defense, 35 points, and, as always, a clutch performance. The benefit of this tour de force game for elevating Lin’s status in the minds of the team’s coach and FO cannot be overstated. It has cemented Lin’s entitlement to heavy playing time, playing in crunch time, and the status of “starter in waiting” whenever Hairston, Kemba or Batum cannot go.

    With Batum out, the result was a Linsanity game. Kemba normally freezes Lin out totally, but in the absence of Batum, Kemba treated Lin as Batum’s replacement and shared the ball. If Kemba were to sit out, we should expect Linsanity heaven as Lin would be able to run the point most of the whole game. The least desirable start is when Lin replaces Hairston: Kemba and Batum basically treat Lin as the invisible the man.

    Which is where we stand now. Lin is playing heavy minutes including crunch time, but he is not being included in the offense. Nevertheless, playing heavy minutes is an essential first step toward the restoration of Linsanity. The next essential step is getting Kemba to pass the ball to Lin on a regular basis. As the losses keep pilling up, the pressures on Kemba and the FO should reach a breaking point. Then the last essential step will be Lin getting promoted to the starting lineup and running the point whenever he’s on the court.

    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/657990302154805248

  • Michael

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  • heart

    Glad to have you on this forum, another voice of reasoning w/keen discernment.

  • heart

    Thank you Michael. Merry Christmas and many Blessings to you, to LIN, and to ALL Lin fans at-large!

  • heart

    Thank you 717 for the review and description of potential case of Linsanity!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree with that…I’ve always felt that Cliff needed to keep the starters, specially Kemba/Batum, on the bench for a bit longer….specially when the bench unit was doing well.

    It almost feels like Cliff do not want the bench to get too much credit, so he has to bring in Kemba/Batum to make sure no one can make it a bench vs Starter thing….He also wants to protect the players he feels are his best players..

    The whole “bench force 1” is an affront to the 2 stars that they are trying to promote since Kemba/Batum is not part of it..and this is why Cliff always brings Kemba back on early, even when Lin id doing well as the PG…He wants Kemba to also take the credit

  • heart

    Yep! Adele and I and some others are noticing and saying this all along.

  • JoeTeam

    Michael, why thank you for including me in your list. It’s been a fun journey with JLin since before Linsanity. Sort of gives me a new way to look at being Asian American. This site has changed it up for me, as I don’t think I’m alone and yes, it is very important to keep it positive.

    Merry Christmas to all of you, whatever your faith. To me it’s important to say Merry Christmas as that was more the western standard with all its holiday myths, etc. We are all tied together in goodwill by the TV ads lol.

    More on gratitude – I got up early to meet with a Taiwanese electrician, and he told me how much he loves the US. That there are laws, standards, the freedom to work hard without worry. He has a master’s degree … it gives me a lot to think about, this gratitude for what we have, and how we can work hard to give hope to ourselves and ones we love.

    Have a great celebration, for all of you and your families. Thank you all for being you.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Exactly….Bismack is a “poor’s man Mutomb0″….Yes, he will never be a scorer, but honestly, you should not have to depend on him to score…you should have others to do that.

    Dude can give you 10 boards and 2-3 blocks per game..what’s not to like here?…specially with a team that is weak inside…

  • TTNN

    playing together with bench is the stats padding time for Kemba and Batum, they somehow both scored well in that group.

    Yeah, I don’t like that part. They throw that bench group out of rhythm.

  • JoeTeam

    He’s quite impactful … I only have time watch CHA and GSW, and those GSW games he was a force as well.

  • 717

    Merry Christmas to you, heart, and all the other faithful Lin fans!

  • occupatio

    Woop. Happy holidays!

  • CJSHYY
  • heart

    Adele, I want to personally wish you and yours a very Merry and Blessed Christmas. Be safe and enjoy your Holidays. God bless!

  • Merry Christmas, @Dinoneseus:disqus!
    Thank you for introducing us to the concept of sleep-watching :]
    I’m thankful to get to know such unique personalities in this site although most of us will never see one another in real life.

    May everyone get to celebrate Christmas and the holidays with family, friends and loves ones!
    May Jeremy have such merry Christmas with his family in Charlotte!

  • blubell

    Well, this just makes it impossible for me to ban you now ๐Ÿ˜›
    Merry Christmas, our favorite Sleeping Troll!

  • JE Ballew

    Jeremy Lin should become the Green Hornet by dying his hair green.

  • tom

    That’s way too ratchet

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Merry Christmas To You and Your Family.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Pau? Wow.

  • JoeTeam

    Thank you TakeMeBack … here’s a nice old school song for you, From Rocky! Happy Holidays!

  • tom

    Yep, Biyombo is who he is
    Pretty useless the second coming of reggie evans
    Their current bigs are horrible too thou, Zeller Hawes..Al Jeff isnt a good fit they should go for DH12

  • tom

    He does that a lot a lot of players do

  • JoeTeam

    this makes me think ownership need to promote stars to get the seats filled. There has to be a financial reason for this to happen when KW is seemingly causing losses with self-ball. Every team is headed for SAS and GSW style, so yep, there must be a financial reason.

  • kauaiblue

    What an mf…

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Russell probably will out of Lakers soon…?

    https://twitter.com/supjackjack/status/678690470222934016

  • blubell

    Don’t forget to vote for Jeremy!
    http://vote.nba.com/?referrer=asv16_cha&cid=asv16_cha

  • spiderman

    Whatever one may think of his game, D’Angelo has courage. Hope he gets traded soon, for his sake

  • spiderman

    “sleep-watching”
    what a great concept

  • KL

    The unfortunate pattern with Clifford is that he continues to try to win with Walker and Batum at the forefront.

    I actually think Clifford is a knowledgeable coach, Lin was probably right in his assessment about Clifford. However Lin probably did not anticipate that Clifford would be so firmly based on hierarchy and politics of “superstars”.

    I agree with Khuang that Batum and Walker are not running Clifford’s offence (or defence). Hence Clifford’s knowledge is wasted. That ties up with my observation at the game that Clifford kept trying to pass instructions through Lin, since it was a hopeless cause with Walker and Batum.

    He initially confined Lin to the 2nd unit with few minutes. But the disparity between the 1st and 2nd unit was embarassing. He tried playing Lamb more with the starters but realised that the magic to Lamb’s performance is Lin which Walker cannot emulate. Now he is hoping that Lin can somehow fix the starters with more minutes.

    The only hope was already evident in the preseason – Lin should have the most minutes and play PG most of the time. Less Kemba, less Batum at SG and not too much Al. However we will continue to be frustrated because this is probably not palatable from a politics viewpoint.

  • adele

    Always. Business as it is. I think we have to understand and pass through our frustrations with the way they are handling Lin. That way, we can still enjoy watching him play and wish that he can be a star someday.

  • adele

    I wish you and your family Gods blessings each and every day. Good health to enjoy all throughout the years. I’m blessed knowing you even just sharing thoughts about Lin in this site.

  • adele

    Wishing everyone more blessings and good health always. Enjoy your holidays!

  • adele

    It’s ok. We need to trust Lin in this from now on.

  • sws94

    Lin said the same thing. He just said it in a way that it had to be picked up between the lines. D’Angelo is just saying it straight out.

  • Briiick

    Voted.

  • 22cents

    Passed midnight. Waiting to ambush Santa.

    Huh?

    Ha Ha. Good Luck!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    If he made such comments, it would also make Kemba looks bad too…Not just Lin.

  • 1mtoldman

    wow i made the named list! im happy now; you can go back to sleep.

  • 1mtoldman

    whats interesting to me is the 3 strait games with exactly 41 minutes. like its set in stone before hand (or should i say set in “corner-stone”).

  • 1mtoldman

    yes now lin gets almost no minutes without being in the company of one or the other; how he’s despite that continuing to improve his #’s (while theirs continue to decline) is a little bit magical, bordering on mysterious. or some might say: linsane.

  • Steppen03

    I usually don’t like outspoken players but I couldn’t be more proud of D’Angelo. He’s like Nic Young – get straight to the point, no sugar coating – esp. towards someone like BScott who threw his own players off the bus. Way to go, Russell! You will be in a better situation real soon.

  • Briiick

    As I said before, I am optimistic about Lin’s opportunity and ability to shine in Hornets because Hornets want to get in the playoff, and it’s difficult to win because eastern teams are strong and even this season. Cliff will be forced to empower Lin from time to time when he needs to pull out of a losing streak.

  • Steppen03

    Hopefully, we all get to see something different after ASG. Less KW and little more of JL7 with more PG duties. They have to find the right balance OR there will be No playoff run.

  • Acbc

    You are either on the nice list or naughty list. Take your pick!

  • Acbc

    Merry Christams to our favorite anti troll. You should go to sleep now and Santa will bring you some nice “Linning” for your bed. Lol lol lol. Yeah, that way, we’ll all be able to enjoy the “Linning”

  • Steppen03

    Oh, I’m not worried about that at all – They WILL make playoff, enough to make it through. But the problem is: I don’t want to see A Hornets Sweep in the 1st round.

  • Acbc

    Unless he’s being naughty and staying up!

  • Acbc

    Haven’t seen you for some time Je, hope all is well with you and your family. Merry Christmas and happy new year. Hope to see you more often next year.

  • CJSHYY
  • Spot

    Hopefully there’s still room for Jeremy.

  • cdblue10

    Don worry Spot Ish is an assurance just to run a team as a filler,good enough to be a back up until they can find their true PG.

  • sws94

    There’s your 76er startomg guard. As some have been warning, D’Antoni has more choices for PG than just Lin. Ish Smith is a decent player and he’ll likely be the starting PG for the Sixers. I hope he can get them some wins.

  • blueCypher

    Lin is staying with the Hornets this year. I don’t see the Hornets giving him up in a trade.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, and very thoughtful post helps add to our understanding, share face or opinions. It helps for sure. I’m just triggering on all those empty seats and realizing that I heard once that the arena revs are the owners, so ppl like Dolan of NYK don’t care because it’s filled anyway, etc. It’s getting that way with GSW, where at some point, business leadership may start to think they did it themselves and start to mess with the formula. Right now they are great, because they were under a lot of pressure in early years from fans, getting boo’d when Joe Lacob tried to talk at I think somebody’s number retirement ceremony. I hope all teams can keep up the good team spirit top down in out.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    HoHoHoHo Merry Christmas to you. Why was I not on the list while I was sleeping!!!!!!????? ๐Ÿ™‚

  • JoeTeam

    you’re on my list high5 and thank you for great mod all year! and more.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks! You have just made my Christmas merrier:-)

  • Yascar

    And with that, our boy has spoken. Merry Christmas everyone!

  • Yascar

    Yes I’ve seen the way he plays, only in a few games. He’s in the mould of a D’Antoni PG isn’t he? I wonder who’s leaving though. They still have Marshall, Canaan and I think one other.

  • 1mtoldman

    see my post above.

  • 1mtoldman

    si is reporting this now as a done deal with ish going for 2 dp’s.

    the 6ers would then have 5 pgs: t.j. mcconnell (who started the season), cannan and worten (who have alternated between pg and sg) ish and yes kendall marshall. (once proclaimed the next lin).

    but si is also reporting wroten will be waived.

    ish is going out of one log lam of point guards into another; presumably he’s been promised some more time. he started the season for pels only because of injuries but now with norris cole, holiday,. t evans all available. again no room in the inn.

    wait a minute! didn’t the 6ers waive ish? isn’t that how he got to nawlans in the first place?

    now they’re having to give up 2 dps to get him back? re. (10th team in 5 years for the ish-man).

  • JoeTeam

    May you have a great Holiday. I lived in Melbourne once, so very hot about now no? I’ve never been to the Gold Coast, got as far north as Sydney and west as Adelaide. Go Aussies!

  • JoeTeam

    Lucky Lin is not on pace for that many teams / year.

  • HY C

    Jeremy’s Prayer Requests 14

    ` Praise God that our team has started to find a good rhythm!
    ` Praise God that I feel closer and closer to a breakthrough in terms of being content where God has put me. Please pray that I continue to stay on this path. Psalm 16:5 and Ephesians 2:10 have been helpful verses for me to find and maintain joy, regardless of life’s circumstances.
    ` Please pray for our team that the Holy Spirit would soften the hearts of my non-believing teammates and to sanctify the lives of the believers. Also that our Bible study would grow in vulnerability, accountability, and community.
    ` Please pray for love and peace in the world as there have been a number of tragic events recently. And also please pray for healing of the families and friends of the affected victims.
    ` Please pray for Cathy and Ava, two tremendous individuals that I got a chance to meet personally who are fighting through illness. Please pray for supernatural healing, as well as tremendous peace and joy through tribulations.
    ` Please pray for you guys as well. Hearing about your prayer requests reminds me how much we all need Christ daily!
    ` Praise God for the Christmas season!! We received the greatest gift we could ever receive in Jesus Christ, born to us as a child to die on the cross for our sins and rise from the grave to overcome sin and death!
    ` THANK YOU everybody for your continued support and prayer!

  • 1mtoldman

    u exceed the 10 character limit; you notice all the named parties do not exceed ten characters, michael can’t stay awake long enuf to remember more than ten.

    the king of sleep watching. lin or santa same approach.

  • sws94

    Zbo not starting for Memphis now?

  • sws94

    Yup, Zach Randolph is coming off the bench now. And he’s getting around 25 minutes a game since.

  • Yascar

    Thanks just seen it, didn’t refresh. Log jam of PGs indeed! Didn’t he stop off at Hou as well after Lin left?

  • Spot

    He could be a pretty good back up PG. Not a starter for me.

  • Spot

    Pray for a reunion Lin + MDA too. A successfull one. Jeremy is too shy to ask that.

  • Whitman Lam

    Biyombo would have been great for the Hornets, far better defensively than Spencer Hawes has been. However, at the time Charlotte didn’t have much cap space and were trying to extend MKG (Which I think is a waste because he can’t score).

  • Whitman Lam

    And Isiah Thomas gave him a hard shove to free himself for that 3 pointer. The ref was standing less than 10 feet away and did not call an offensive foul.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks! It has been hot very early this year, since October. Good that it has cooled off once again in the past 2-3 days. We had a heavy 30 minutes rain yesterday. It’s cloudy thus far and possible of thunderstorm and/or shower in the next week because of cyclone effect I believe. We are around 20-30C (66-88F). Not so bad for summer:-) Normally we are in mid or high 30C at this time of the year.

  • PPP

    Ish Smith contract is only 1 year and non guaranteed. Why they give up 2 picks for him is really strange. Sixers are not going any where anyway this season. Did he play for MDA before?

    Both McConnel and Marshalls contracts have 3 years left after this season but also are non guaranteed. Flexibility there. Marshalls contract 2.1m and McConell 800K+ for next season. Not sure if they keep both.

    Cannan has 1 year left and is also non guaranteed so he may not be re-signed.

    Lin can opt out and sign with the Sixers and be their starting point guard next season depending on the contract terms (12m+?) and whether MDA remains as the associate hc/HC, if he so chooses.

    I dont think lin gives a damn about what team I want him to play for as Im not smarter than him obviously. As such, I just continue to support him wherever he goes or stays.

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets is in trouble that’s what Lin concern the most now….

  • CJSHYY

    I really have no idea what 76 is doing right now bc they already had 3 PGs. Why needs one more…? 2 picks for non guaranteed player? Is he really good or what?

  • CJSHYY

    Really on this…? — wait a minute! didn’t the 6ers waive ish? isn’t that how he got to nawlans in the first place?

    So weird…lol!

  • sws94

    I know what they are doing. Losing. 1 game win and 30 losses is record-breaking in futility.

  • Briiick

    They just need to do something with low cost, short term to give their “fans” excuses to watch, also to show the league they are doing something LOL.

  • CJSHYY

    But to pick up a guy you don’t want from last season it’s not really doing something good for the team….smh!

  • Spot

    Psalm, I sent you a mail. See if you like it.

    Merry Christmas to all of you!

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • I’d need to see if Disqus automatically categorizes posts into spam.
    Sometimes it happens for some users.

    Let me if putting into whitelist would help

  • Linzen

    Merry Christmas to you all. Hope you enjoy this beautiful song.
    https://youtu.be/M7Ux80jK3bI

  • KHuang

    Or Clifford could simply demand Walker and Batum actually run the plays.

    That would solve everything for not just the starters but Lin.

  • KHuang

    YOU DA MAN

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • KHuang

    Lin would be a fine starting SHOOTING GUARD for the Sixers or any NBA team.

    He has amply proved that he can hold his own against the best, at least when the refs aren’t cheating him the way they do when James Harden is amassing phantom fouls.

  • KHuang

    Colangelo seems to think that Ish Smith can somehow put up starter numbers if given starter minutes.

    Colangelo will find out that it won’t work.

  • LinMad

    that girl on the right is hot. He should ask her out.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Hornets has lost five of the last six games. The only victory came with Lin being the starter in place of Batum.

  • 1mtoldman

    ish smith carreer bounces hard to follow and i was just trying to pick up from some headlines…it turns out (i think) he wasn’t actually waived by 6ers (tho there are some reports seem to indicate he was. its one of those alonso gee things.)

    anyway. i think, i think the actual recent trail is:

    with philly last year, was free agent in summer 6ers did not choose to resign; went to washington where he was waived by washington after philly let him go. (so the basic story line is the same, they already had him, choose not to keep him and now giving up dp’s to get him back)–

    anyway, lasted less than a month with washington pre season was waived at start of season picked up by pelicans ( the pelicans btw had him for 1 day earlier in the year, calendar year, the previous season, then they waived him!).

    3 days after being waived by the pelicans (earlier 2015, last season) he was picked up by philly who had him the rest of last season; they didn’t resign him then cycle back to the earlier part of the story to find the pelicans this time not waving but trading him back to philly…

    now in his 6th season he has been transacted 22 times!!!! (trades, waviers, assignments and reassignments).

    if that isn’t the definition of a journeyman i dont know what is.

    but to yer question: no the sixers did not waive him previously they just did not resign him as a free agent; washington did, then they waived him, then the pelicans (who had also previously waived him) picked him up; used him until their other pg’s came back from injuries and then traded him back to philly who had him last season for the dps.

    if you can follow that yer a better man than i am gunga din.

  • KHuang

    That’s how it’s gonna be the rest of this season.

  • 1mtoldman

    in answer to yer question about ish smith without having to slog thru all the history i dredged up below:

    why they give up 2 picks for him is even stranger when you know they had him last season and just didnt resign him.

    the answer would seem to be confirmation that genius hinkie has been as reported “essentially fired” (tho this is denied of course) and colangelo is taking over.

    it not that smith was with coangelo before but was with philly b4 and …

    nerlens noel (it is said) has been quoted as saying ish was his favorite pg so far. thus, apparently it would seem the 6ers new regime is intent on keeping noel and bringing the ish-man back (at the cost of a couple of hinkie’s beloved dp’s).

    at least thats one explanation.

  • KHuang

    Well, Ish Smith was the starter on last years 76er last place team.

    Rinse repeat reject

  • KHuang

    Yes, another “savior” in Houston to replace the hated Asian guy.

  • your son’s voltaire

    decent for a 3rd stringer

  • 1mtoldman

    aww you dont want to go there. read my other reply to cjshyy above or just note that in his now 6th nba campaign the ish-man has been “transacted” 22 times!!!!! (trades, wavied, assigneed, recalled, etc, etc. etc). and yes been in and out of houston along with way more than once i think.

  • 1mtoldman

    and to all a good nite.

  • Brent Yen

    That means they will have 54 Gm losing streak coming up…..ooooops

  • kjch

    She looks 13…..

  • Brent Yen

    So…who starts over him?

  • Brent Yen

    For a guy who sleep a lot, you have a really good memory…LOL Merry Christmas to you and your fam too

  • your son’s voltaire

    and that relates to Lin how?

  • Brent Yen

    One rightfully so, and one is not….thats the difference

  • your son’s voltaire

    it’s just 2 second round picks. no big deal

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Why didn’t the Hornets go back to the lineup that they won with Jeremy, the only win in the last 6 games?
    Reason: The 2nd unit only scored 18 points in that game. Their first unit scored 91 points with Jeremy (one overtime).

    Sat, Dec 12, the bench scored 36 points against Celtics.
    Wed, Dec 16, they then scored 49 points against the Magic.

    Thu, Dec 17, the bench scored only 18 points against the Raptors without Jeremy.

    Sat, Dec 19, they scored 44 points against the Wizard.
    Mon, Dec 21 against Rockets, they scored 43 points.
    Wed, Dec 23 against Celtics again, they scored 47 points.

    The logical choice should be to start Batum from the bench and start with Jeremy but of course this won’t happen and the Hornets is forever doomed with their first team producing incredibly low.

  • Brent Yen

    we all saw it….too bad we do not have enough share of Hornets stock….to make the change..:P

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The best situation that Clifford can hope for now is to have Big Al back and put Cody Zeller in the 2nd unit .
    Then both the first unit and the second unit will increase their production.
    Nic and Kemba had played much better with big Al and their ISO plays and they played less minutes, which is good for the team.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Looking forward to having Lin turn around the mess of 76ers next season.

  • sws94

    They play Memphis next.

  • sws94

    Didn’t check, was surprised he was moved to the bench. He’s one of their big stars.

  • your son’s voltaire

    Zbo isn’t much of a factor defensively against Lin. slow, lazy, not really a shot blocker. i’d be happier if he played more than 25 minutes and started for them

  • Rick Johnson

    And the Hornets bloggers like At the Hive keep saying “why change anything while we’re winning”. How much losing does it take for them to stop using that excuse to change PG?

  • 1mtoldman

    ahh but if hinkie were making the decisions it would be a big deal; he loves his 2nd round drafts picks. he loves all draft picks. he had 12 of them i think. he doesn’t (didnt) give them up rather he ” strip(s) his team of its most talented players and absorb(s) other team’s bad contracts in exchange for draft picks,”….

    giving up 2 would be part of the process. however, the process for all intents and purposes is no mas.

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff or Hornets will not change starting PG. From the beginning, all the ask for Lin to play it’s starting SG.

  • your son’s voltaire

    can’t blame them. they’re so use to losing. they got a loser’s mentality

  • Brent Yen

    His skill set is rare in today’s NBA…..

  • your son’s voltaire

    sure, but he’s being pressured by the league to change all that. Colangelo and MDA are running the show now

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Do you have a sister looking after you?

  • occupatio

    lol, ok.

  • David Kim

    Jeremy Lin is much better player than Ish Smith.

    I will be very up front about it: Ish Smith is not a very good NBA player. In four seasons, Smith has played with six different teams. Think about that for a second. Heโ€™s been bad enough that he has been on more teams than the years heโ€™s played in the league. And somehow, teams keep signing him. Let me show you just how bad he has been. Here are his career numbers:

    Season G MP FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2010-11 43 10.3 .374 .300 .571 1.1 1.8 0.4 0.0 0.8 0.9 2.3
    2011-12 26 9.0 .383 .333 .700 1.3 1.6 0.6 0.1 0.5 0.6 2.8
    2012-13 52 9.9 .352 .296 .429 1.2 1.7 0.4 0.2 0.7 0.5 2.4
    2013-14 70 14.4 .423 .043 .564 1.8 2.6 0.7 0.2 0.9 0.9 3.7
    Career 191 11.5 .392 .217 .571 1.4 2.0 0.5 0.1 0.8 0.8 2.9
    Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
    Generated 9/25/2014.
    He isnโ€™t an offensive threat at all, only averaging a career 2.9 points per game while shooting an absolutely horrendous .392/.217/.571 line from the field. He canโ€™t really pass the ball either, only averaging two assists per game, which projects to only 6.3 per 36 minutes. He shoots free throws at a very Dwight Howard-like 57.1 percent, which would be terrible if he was a center, but as a point guard, itโ€™s completely unacceptable. He shoots the three-pointer like a big man as well, shooting an awful 21.7 percent from deep for his career. Thatโ€™s simply not going to fly with the Rockets, who need the three-point shooting to help provide space for Howard and James Harden to work.

  • sport

    LOL your standards must be really low then.

  • tom

    He’s playing well this year
    No need to trash him because he might indirectly be Lin’s competition its so uneccesary
    He went to the 6ers good for him but its still a bad team I dont think hes their long time solution anyways
    Lin is better off with the hornets right now

  • tom

    Cody Zeller isnt that good
    They just need to take out Hawes

  • tom

    She looks 15….

  • tom

    Yep he does not have to jump

  • tom

    Matt Barnes I know because I closely follow ZBo

  • tom

    tanking

  • TTNN

    I think now a days, 6ers had so many picks, that if they could not convert them into something, it will be useless. Since they could not have that many spots on the team for them.

  • FrankW

    30 year old Asian could pass for 15.

  • tom

    They are useless

  • tom

    nahhhhh thats pushing it
    I’d say 29

  • FrankW

    All mature ladies with a healthy portfolio, good
    balance sheet and great cash flow are hot.

  • FrankW

    Some Asians by old customs add one year to the birth year.

  • Rick Johnson
  • sws94

    This comment is for Lin now and no imaginary future for Lin on the Sixers. Frankly, I’m bored with all the Sixers talk. My feeling is he is not a Sixer, there is no official talk of him becoming one, they are a 1 win team and MDA is not the head coach. So they have no interest to me. I wish we’d play them so it would be a W, because it is hard to lose to them.

    He is a Hornet now. He has an interesting role in that he is playing with 2 other facilitators at times and then runs his own unit that is considered one of the best bench units in the NBA at times. He is also now an official closer. He’s played one Linsanity game and has had a few Hairsanity games where he was a big factor. I think he’s overall playing well. He had a bit of a setback yesterday with TOs but he’s been pretty good keeping them down. He’s finding his groove.

    However, what he hasn’t done yet is find a bunch of games where he’s Mr. 4th quarter. It almost happened in the Houston game but that was a weird game in that he hardly played the first half. But in the 4th, and I don’t want to get into bashing Kemba or Batum either, he hasn’t really gotten it going yet. If he takes the option to stay on the team I would hope that Lin stays in the closing unit with MKG coming back and considered one of the game’s best defenders. So, I hope Lin thinks in terms of having stronger 2nd halves than first halves. That used to be the case but that hasn’t been lately. If he proves he’s Mr. 4th Q then Cliff would have him play with MKG hopefully, which might be awesome.

    And let’s not make any excuses. The conditions are what they are. He’ll have to do this on the floor with Kemba and Batum and when he gets the ball, make things happen. He’ll have to gear himself up that way. He’ll have to make shots, layups, floaters, get to the line, get big men easy baskets, create shots for Batum and Kemba, all of that. It’s a challenge but he can do it.

    Merry Christmas.

  • CJSHYY

    BS is just BS. Russell sure is not CP3. I don’t think BS can really teach him anything at all.

  • JoeTeam

    I would have loved to have seen Ayers Rock with my own eyes, … ah well. You;ve traveled wide and far. Ive been to the worm Grotto in Gunns Plains, such a marvel. I hope it’s still viable for young visitors today.

    Happy Holidays from US to down unda ..

  • JoeTeam

    yep, that’s the reality and JLin would do well to be 6moY.

  • sws94

    That would be nice. But I just want to see him be the most impactful player he can be on whatever team he’s on. Now it is Charlotte, so while he’s here, let that happen. Happy Holidays, JoeTeam.

  • sws94

    Matt Barnes. Ugh.

  • Brent Yen

    Let me re-organize/summarize your post, and the result is…

    Merry Christmas.!!!!!

    ๐Ÿ˜›

  • your son’s voltaire

    haha u didn’t even read his post. lazy guy! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • your son’s voltaire

    there’s zero chances of Lin joining the 76ers this year. people are talking about the chances of him joining them next year. this year’s 76ers are a 1 win team. next year 76ers can be completely different with new players and a better syste

  • your son’s voltaire

    he was very impactful on the rockets team

  • occupatio

    like al…

  • sws94

    I don’t get wrapped up in the 76ers. I thought Lin was going to the Mavericks and he throws a curve ball and ends up in Charlotte. I said Charlotte? totally didn’t expect that. He has months more basketball to play now. That’s what my post is about mostly, what he can do this season.

  • your son’s voltaire

    would you have a problem if people talk about other teams that Lin may or may not sign with this offseason? i get that hornets are Lin’s team right now but why should a message board be limited to just that?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m happy for Lin getting more minutes per game lately.

    This is going to be a difficult season because Lin has less help and his blown assists increase because of the ineptness of the bigs in the team. However Lin has changed a lot in this season. He becomes a well balanced player on the court. He has not only created plays for his teammates, he has been used as a SG and his cutting, back door plays and one on one moves has improved a lot. He is definitely the starting PG for an NBA team and he should be the one that some team should build around.

    The way I see it, MDA will be the offensive coach for 76er and Brett Brown is the defensive coach for the team. Lin should flourish on both. With bigs like Noel and Okafor, Lin will be more productive. Lin loves to play with younger teammates. His unselfishness should be contagious. Joining MDA is definitely a big plus next season. 76er will immediately make Lin a big draw for the game. There is nothing more you can lose in 76er and everything to gain. Lin is reaching his prime and better things is going to happen soon.

    Lin would be sought after as a starting PG for the 76er and I expect him to get a decent long contract to give him more security for seasons to come. He would be used like a franchise player by MDA (offensive coach) and Brett Brown (defensive coach). MDA + Brett Brown both have lots to prove and they would love Jeremy Lin. 76er is not a bad team with their draft picks and a better FO, the turning around of the team is coming soon. The experience of this season can only help Lin. God bless Jeremy. I see hope and revival of his career. Lin would be a legend in this league having changed to so many teams misusing him for so many seasons. Finally his call will come. 76er no doubt would recruit him hard because Jeremy is the best they can get on the market without a trade. They would be fair to Jeremy.

    Linsanity will live again in Philadelphia, one of the biggest basketball market in NBA. The impact of MDA and Brett Brown on the team would be obvious in a few months. I have confidence that Jeremy is going to be the center piece there. In fact I can’t see a better long term investment for Philadelphia than him in the market. Jeremy will get what he wants there; almost everything that he has hoped for. Next Christmas is going to be great. This is going to be the end of the beginning for Jeremy Lin. From then on, he will be the franchise player.

  • sws94

    Merry Christmas. I’m not talking about the 76ers. That’s not the point of this post. The board I think can talk about different things but if we get fixated on the idea that he’s going somewhere with no official connection at all that he is, there gets to a point where there could be too much of that.

  • your son’s voltaire

    don’t look now but there’s another 76ers related post right above. lol merry xmas! g’night

  • sws94

    Again, I think this type of talk is jumping the gun and putting way too much eggs in the 76er/MDA basket. Some are falling in love with this idea, and that’s all it is, an idea, right now, as if it were a reality. He can go anywhere his heart desires, not where we want or think he may go. All the great reasons we can come up with don’t add up to a hill of beans if it is not inline with what Lin may want when the time comes. And it is all so premature now, this season is now and he’s a Hornet. That’s all we have right now.

  • sws94

    He kept saying he had one. It seemed very limited what he would run.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Jeremy is in the best position for a new long termed contract next season. If you look for a starting calibre PG in the league without giving up your draft choices and talents on your team, Jeremy Lin is the best one available. For this reason Lin’s agent will be able to negotiate a good contract for him to finish his career in high note.

    Jeremy Lin is everything that 76er wants and hopes for. They are going to build a team around him with the least effort. Immediately, Lin will raise them to a level that few teams can match. The 76er team is underrated because they do have talents. Once you take Hinkie out of the picture in team management, the team is going to flourish. NBA would try their best to give this team a chance to revive. Lin’s revival will step in the right time at the right moment. Without a doubt, Lin will lead this team to playoff next season with the help of MDA and Brett Brown. They both are good coaches.

    Plus the team will have their best chance next season in draft picks to strengthen their team. Lin finally will be offered a lifelong contract; might be the best contract for his career.

  • sws94

    You’re just making an argument for your own idea. All I said is we don’t know what Lin will do. And we were all wrong about him going to Charlotte. So, yes, you can make convincing arguments for that idea but it doesn’t mean that’s inline with Lin.

    Personally, I don’t think Lin is thinking about next season. He probably wants to get back winning, to do more with the challenge that is playing with Kemba and Batum. And that’s my focus. Next season is next season. I don’t want to look past the next 40 something games Lin will play for some unknown greener pasture. It may not be there.

  • your son’s voltaire

  • sws94

    Joyous and safe holidays for all. See you a bit tomorrow. Good night.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin is going to give his best every day and he doesn’t even need to think about his future because it’s all good after this season. Who is the PG that MDA wants most in this league and no other PG will want to go to 76er without a decent contract. At this moment, Lin is the best available PG for 76er next season. The Divine planning couldn’t be wrong about this.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It will be all good.

  • JoeTeam

    you too, I agree with you. I just want our Ronin to grab an accolade while he’s at it. Happy holidays to you too. It was nice out here in CA … rainy, the Christmas lights worked without shorting, and everybody was smiling …

  • kjch

    I was thinking it.. You said it ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • kjch

    If you zoom in on the right picture… JLins nose sort of looks like a turkey lol or a puzzle piece =)

  • james brown

    then if the other player played poorly, they should go to the bench and let the other player manufacture a comeback..

    but bringing Lin just to be the 4th option with no way to facilitate will not turn the tide as you said..Celtics playing well is an offshoot of poor offensive as well as defensive lapses of the starters..

    Let JLIN run the starter or the bench when he comes in and let see what will gonna happen.

    I know it will not happen because CLIFF can’t do that to their Franchise players..so what kind of coach is he? can we consider Cliff a Quality coach who can go against his star players or FO for that matter?

  • aras

    why would lin even want to join the sixers? rebuilding takes time..Lin is 27 going for 28 if he does go to the sixers which i hope he wont, he is taking a risk.

  • JE Ballew

    Merry Christmas to you and all on the side. Thank God, that Jesus was willing to come to earth as a man to give his life for us. What a wonderful gift of love and eternal to all who receive him. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that who so ever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life”. John 3:16

  • Hope

    Last year free agent, we thought lin had a chance to join MDA in Denver.
    This time around, lin will join him in Phillies.

  • Findersam

    Merry Christmas JLin Fan Family! Hope next year Jeremy is in a Christmas Day game. But glad he is able to celebrate with some of his family this year and enjoy the day off. Hope you all have an enjoyable day too. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You have a strange way of making your point. Merry X’mas.

  • Spot

    Hope you’re right. Please God, please.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A much better scenario now than ever.

  • gum

    What can Mike Dโ€™Antoni do for the Philadelphia 76ers? on Yard Barker.Com..12/25/15

  • Spot

    With Jeremy? Miracles.
    Without, nothing.

  • Hope

    He even mention in his prayer that he’s feeling closer to breakthrough and content. He knows he’s joining mda soon.

  • KHuang

    Frankly, I’m tired of you complaining about other Lin fans.

  • KHuang

    Let the Hornets change NOTHING.

    The worse the Hornets starters play, the more Lin is needed!

  • KHuang

    That means Lin will be NEEDED for the remaining 54 games!

  • gum

    Not a good writer for this article. Mike D’Antoni is demoted to an ASSISTANT coach….

  • 22cents

    Huh? I thought MDA was hired as an associated coach???

  • John Focker

    The playbook isn’t necessarily one that relates to basketball. It may very well be one about how to shift blame and demoralize own players, basically the tanking Bible.

  • John Focker

    Charlotte intends to break their own record of losing 23 straight (2nd all time).

  • gum

    Yes, the writer made a mistake, It should have been an ASSOCIATE coach!

  • 22cents

    Ho Ho. Thanks.

  • Merry Christmas, fellow JLin fans!
    He’s #8 in Eastern All-Star voting. Let’s keep voting
    Batum is #10

    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/680427255030398976

  • joyce ward

    I wonder what’s Charlotte’s strategy after these initial votes? Will they try to push lin/batum?

  • CJSHYY

    Yesterday they only promoted Kemba & Batum.

  • CJSHYY

    Yes. Keep voting.

  • joyce ward

    Kemba didn’t even make the list

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Don’t think he’s popular even in Hornets. LOL!

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Spot

    Same as Rockets, probably

  • Lin Win

    Game Over for Lin! Only at 61000 behind 6/7 players. Even Whiteside has more votes than Lin.

  • occupatio

    dantoni knows how to use different PGs. it doesnt have to be lin.
    cliff only knows how to use kemba.

  • occupatio

    since derrick rose is #6, that should quiet the naysayers who talk about who ‘deserves’ and ‘doesnt deserve’ to be an all-star.

  • occupatio

    well, if cliff diminishes kemba’s role all of a sudden, that gives some credence to the all-star-vote theory. i didnt take that theory seriously to begin with, so im doubtful anything changes. but it will be interesting if it does.

  • occupatio

    and kobe has 200K more votes than curry.

  • occupatio

    whether hoarding picks is useful depends on what the goal is.
    it is clear that philly has now changed their goals.

  • BobbyH

    Now a distinguished coach fight back with a rookie on media? That’s very high of BS, the high that most sees as low of low.

  • Charlie S

    Don’t focus too much on the head coach. Don’t forget D’Antoni had his hands tied and had to play Carmelo back with the Knicks. Clifford has his hands tied because of how much money FO gave KW and Batum. Do you trust the 76ers FO? The Spurs work great because there is a great coach and a great GM. Do you trust the whole 76ers organization? I don’t know much about them.

  • BobbyH

    Things over there are still unclear. Even the insiders don’t know what future would be like after years of tanking and now with injection of new power coming from the top and NBA. This would be a very interesting development.

  • heart

    Lin is the only Non-starter who makes top10 list voting so far. The rest of the names above him and even IT and NB below are starters. That has to STAND OUT among NBA inner circle!!!! Lin Fans need to continue to use our VOTES as our VOICE for LIN!

  • heart

    HAPPY CHRISTMAS DAY EVERYONE! Blessings and Good tidings to ALL!

  • JoeTeam

    Hmmm, can we discuss? I’m thinking ‘that he gave his only Son” and then again, I was thinking Easter ties into that. Pls help me understand.

  • Dorothy

    I don’t believe this. There is no way Lin only has 61K votes so far. Think about Taiwan and China fans. Especially this year, NBA opened WeiBo and QQ. There is NO WAY Lin only as 61K votes by now.

  • heart

    That’s what I was thinking too. It’s very suspicious…

  • Briiick

    True. But only Lin (previously Nash) can make him outshine other coaches.

  • JoeTeam

    yes but you gotta point out the pass from Batum to KW on the fast break. Lol.

    The thing is, ball movement on CHA was really good early in that game, but for some reason, it stops and since I don’t know the plays, I can’t tell why. We don’t have the 1-5 that Harden inspires, it’s not so bad where the other 4 give up or get passive aggressive to signal the coaching and fans, but something does go awry.

    Notice how in many games for GSW Steph scores lower than KT or someone else? That keeps ball movement alive.

    So anyway, I dunno what it is, but that to me is the CHA thing when they lose … they get away from team ball that they do have, and then the team is easy to beat in crunch time. Just like Rox was easy to beat in the last few mins. Somebody here posted it best in how you handle that … you lull Harden (KW maybe) into easy scores, and then you tighten down and the rest of the team already got cold, gave up.

  • blaznazn22

    maybe the screen for chinese/taiwanese votes, since it would not be fair to other players. Still, if thats true then it shows how popular lin is outside of asian countries as well.

    other scenario is, that asian fans stopped caring about lin as much as before

  • Briiick

    Voted for Lin today.

  • blaznazn22

    i feel sorry for kemba, but to be honest he is not well known in nba ranks outside of charlotte. His basketball skills is not really on the level of the best starting point guards. He is likely getting more recognition this year since lin and batum joined the team.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    To be honest with you, I strongly don’t believe Lin should make the all-star anyway….His numbers is simply not there, so I wouldn’t want all of Lin’s fan in China/Tawain to vote him in.

    Maybe even Lin fan who loves and support him doesn’t believe he’s played like an All-Star…I’m one Lin fan who refuses to vote for him to go to the all-star.

    Now, if there’s a sixth man vote, I’d probably vote for him.

  • JoeTeam

    I’m with you because the first accolade should be starting and the 2nd should be fair treatment by the refs. I know he earned it already, and that’s where the rubber meets the road toward something more fitting.

  • Dorothy

    I believe someone already discussed about this. All-Star is a popularity vote, not about who “deserves” it. It is about who we as fans want to see playing at All-Star.

  • blaznazn22

    thanks for your honesty, i as a fan couldn’t resist but voting for him once. Not that I felt good about it either, but this is a fan vote and fans vote for who they want to see.

  • spiderman

    Christmas celebrates Christ’s birth into the world. Easter celebrates Christ conquering death by rising from death

  • JoeTeam

    guess so …

  • JoeTeam

    so, I guess it’s the gifting that is humble and sacrificial? I will have to think and understand why it is humble to give this gift, maybe I can do that in gift giving too … lol, at least do that in FB sharing I’m srs.

  • BobbyH

    Happy Holidays to all Lin fans here.

  • heart

    Whys is “not fair to other players”? I’m sure other players have global fans voting for them, since the NBA league has multinational players from different countries. And this voting is open to all…

    I’m just going to do my part voting for Lin. I leave the end result to God. He knows the behind-the-scene maneuvers.

  • KHuang

    I’ll trash Ish Smith.

    He’s a career journeyman who was ejected from the 76ers last year.

    Lin’s toyed with him before a few times.

    Colangelp should have offered the two second round picks to Charlotte for Lin. Heck, Colangelo probably could have Lin with ONE pick!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Kemba will stop playing 40 minutes per game..if the theory is correct that the only reason he plays so much minutes is so he can pad his stats…Let’s hope this is right and Kemba goes back to playing 30-32 minutes per game….That would mean Lin playing a bit more as the main PG.

  • Linzen

    100% agreed! It’s like only 6000 Lin fans voted in 11 days, NO WAY!!!!

  • tom

    You too

  • Guest

    Has Jeremy ever been on the top ten on All-Star voting list before?

  • spiderman

    Yes – sacrifice is something we give up for someone else. Christ gave up his pre-human life to come to earth, face the fallen-ness of humanity in every way (yet without sin), and finally to give his life for us

  • spiderman

    Very good questions about humbleness. I’m motivated to look into it further….
    I guess Lin is. Good example of someone who tries to be humble. We know he specifically requests prayers for his struggles with it.

    Merry Christmas!

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here are the final vote totals for the 2013 NBA All Star game (Western Conference, backcourt). As I recall, this was Jeremy Lin’s best showing :

    Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,591,437
    Chris Paul (LAC) 929,155
    Jeremy Lin (Hou) 883,809
    James Harden (Hou) 485,986
    Russell Westbrook (OKC) 376,411

    Steve Nash (LAL) 270,741
    Tony Parker (SA) 176,168
    Stephen Curry (GS) 169,083
    Ricky Rubio (Min) 150,227
    Manu Ginobili (SA) 118,293

    See : http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/17/all-star-2013-starters-announced/

  • tom

    Thank you so much!
    I love Lin but I know Lin is no where near that level yet.
    I refuse to vote for him out of respect for Lin.

  • Guest

    I thought I’ve seen all of Jeremy’s highlights, but just found thus youtuber “aman2k”. Has great highlights from beginning of Jeremy’s career. Most of highlights are for offense, but these videos include defensive play as well. KHuang mentioned that he’s always had the same level of defense is right. Not enough highlights of his defense, but it was definitely there.

    Jeremy Lin (2/3/2012) NYK vs BOS 2 pts 1ast 2 rebs 2ndQtr

    aman2kSubscribe1K

  • tom

    Just think how you guys are trashing Kobe for getting voted in
    and thats gonna be everyone else for Lin when he gets it and even bigger

  • tom

    Or maybe it’s just embarrassing
    the only bench player to make the All star and his number isnt even there yet

  • tom

    He was the MVP a few years ago

  • tom

    Ugh Wade..
    Butler and Lowry should make it John Wall deserves some consideration too
    Isiah Thomas should also get some love

  • tom

    Kevin Durant is a great player
    His FG% is always above 500 and he doesnt have a lot of open shots because hes always heavily guarded lots of isos and contested shots yet his FG% is still above .500 people dont realize just how great he is and he doesnt even hog the ball as much
    unlike Batum sometimes I wonder who Batum thinks he is…

  • NONONO

    He was in top 10 guards every year since Knicks. He had 21000 votes last year even playing for tanking Lakers

  • Acbc

    Colangelo has been known for a no-nonsense ownership style. Players like the Suns’ Dennis Johnson and Jason Kidd and the Diamondbacks’ Bobby Chouinard have been traded or released after their personal problems became public.”

    He was instrumental in acquiring Nash and Barkley to the Suns. MDA you already know about. The story behind the scene is that NBA is worry about the state of the Sixers franchise with the tanking and has stepped in forcing change with Colangelo.

    Hinkie and Brown are basically lame duck GM and coach. The timeline of their transistor is very political because the ownership has been put on noticed to change or face even more serious league actions.

  • NONONO

    The problem is Lin’s games did not get on national TV and news much. Few people know he was so good if they have not watched much his games this season. He got more votes last year because it was LA and the games showed on national TV more.

  • Phoenix Rising

    I have voted for Lin 2 times this year, but I felt bad after each time. Have stopped now. I remember Lin, a couple of years back, said he was glad he wasn’t voted into the game because he didn’t think he deserved it or something like that. Made me respect him more, and obviously made a big impact on my level of fandom ๐Ÿ™‚

    I support your pov!

  • NONONO

    I vote for him because i believe he is one of top 5 PGs in the EC, but he has not got as much as chance to play pg as #16 PG in the east.

  • heart

    To the poster below: Why would it be “embarrassing for the only bench player to make the All star”? He’s not given a chance to be starter and still able to garner votes to be in top 10 vote-getter list, but in your eyes he does not deserve to be in All star. That’s your prerogative. However, to me, it’s even more a ‘statement’ and an ‘honor’ to be nominated by fans who believe in him through thick and thin and can see through the biases and stat-driven smoke screens. The All Star voting may be flawed bc it’s geared toward popular fans votes to see their ‘preferred’ players appear in All Star. This is all about economics. Players get more credentials w/All-Star label behind their names for contract negotiations. I believe Lin deserves it too!

  • Acbc

    We are all born to die. That is the physicality of our existence. Time is man’s invention and our way of measuring our finite existence. God however lives in eternal time, a time we can’t even comprehend. We are mayflies in eternal time. Christ was the gift to man to be the bridge between human time and eternal time. That’s why Christ is the saviour and a physical representation of God.

    Life and death is a measure of us in physical corporeal time. Christ showed us that eternal time exists beyond that corporeal time. Once you’ve entered the body of Christ, you then begin to experience eternal time. It is only by faith and process that eternal time becomes real and corporeal time becomes meaningless.

  • heart

    Joe, may I ask you a question– have you accepted and received in your heart that “sacrificial gift” from God’s Son?

  • adele

    They still go for the coaches vote. That’s what they’re rooting for Kemba to be picked…by the coaches. Not by the fans. The coaches pick are going for the stats. The fans pick for popularity.

  • tom

    He even said it himself a few years back that he was glad he didnt make it in.
    Right now, he’s averaging 12-3-3 coming off the bench, no way is that all star worthy.
    It’s popularity contest for sure but most players get voted in their skills
    In Lin’s case, people vote for him because of his background and other things

  • heart

    “It’s popularity contest for sure but most players get voted in their skills”–> Sorry, not totally true.
    “In Lin’s case, people vote for him because of his background and other things”–> Sorry, not totally true.

  • adele

    Correct!

  • tom

    1. well most of those players are highly skilled so…yah it is true
    2. really? then why are u voting for him?

  • heart

    Lin has the skills, talents and the character to be an All-Star. Obviously, it’s my prerogative to vote for Lin to be an All-Star bc he deserves so. Everyone has a choice. Lin is my choice!

  • tom

    Sounds good!

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lin is the only backup guard on the list and plays the least amount of minutes. starting matters. period

  • heart

    Yep. That’s what I said. Read my post exchanges below.

  • your son’s voltaire

    yup just saw it. good post!

  • DX

    Yao Ming was easily getting 2.5M even the Internet wasn’t popular in Aisa that time. Lin should reach this number nowadays. Don’t know why only 0.6 M.

  • Yascar

    God’s Son was made flesh, born in a barn and placed in a manger. It was God the Father’s ultimate gift to humanity, to have His own Son borne in such a manner and then walk the Earth in flesh and blood, then later die in our place for our sins.

  • sport

    KD is a great scorer bu playing along an iso-centric OKC and along side chucker Westbrick won’t get him anywhere. If he had a team that played teamball like Curry’s than maybe.

  • sport

    YM was no.1 draft pick averaging double doubles and was allstar! Lin is averaging around 10PPG as bench player not exactly allstar status.

  • JoeTeam

    It depends if you’re my mom or not lol.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, ok now it is more clear thanks.

  • wandertheglobe

    While I agree that his numbers are not All Star material. And as Lin’s fans, we know that if given an opportunity Lin could produce All Star worthy numbers.

    But, the All Star is still a popularity contest, many players have gotten in based in popularity, and not merits. I wouldn’t mind if Lin gets voted in.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, the humble gift.

  • blubell

  • JoeTeam

    You too spider. Yes, I wanted to focus in on Lin’s choice of humble to understand it more.

    It is awe inspiring to think about:-)t, do grand a gift and anchoring it on humility. What did Lin mean dang it I wanna know now ๐Ÿ™‚

  • JoeTeam

    Wow infinite hmmm ..

  • JoeTeam

    It will be good to see kd away from Westbrook

  • JoeTeam

    Dang jharden just made it on my Christmas tv in the form of an adidas adv. Yuk.

  • heart

    To help you understand further, that’s why I asked the question. Perhaps to clarify the meaning better if you read John 3:16-17. Picture this, if your ‘mom’ who loves you w/all her heart gives you a gift, and you refuse to accept it for whatever reason. How do you think she would feel? A gift not received is not deemed as a gift until a receiver accepts, right? So God’s ‘sacrificial gift’=redemption for the sins of mankind is still there waiting to be received.

  • Yascar

    I agree with you to an extent because the All Star Game is “supposed” to feature the best performers in the league.

    Having said that, they shouldn’t then open the voting to fans. I believe they do that to enhance interest and ultimately revenue from around the world for the ASG. But that marketing ploy is just greedy and it’s what makes the whole thing so confusing.

    They should accept that the league’s most popular players aren’t necessarily the “best” ones based on their own metrics, stick to that principle and live with the outcome. Not open it up to fans then shake their heads and fix it anyway, when they don’t get the results they want.

    I vote for Lin because I’m a fan of his, I pay good money for NBA merchandise and the league is making out like they want my voice to be heard. Well they’re going to hear it because they said that’s what they want.

  • Lin Win

    Because China doesn’t fully support Jeremy Lin. They mostly support Kobe Bryant.

  • JoeTeam

    LeBron missed 3 fts just now. Pls note lol.

  • Yascar

    Yeah that game is over.

  • Yascar

    Ooppss 4 pt game with 8 secs. Maybe I spoke too soon. Haha.

  • Guest

    A lot of competitions at pg/sg positions. Dallas GJ Barea got 32 pets 11 assists

  • Yascar

    Welp Warriors won. Now all we need is for the Spurs to beat the Rockets.

    And for me to stop talking to myself. ?

  • 1mtoldman

    and the lakers to beat the clippers (and taking care of the 2nd thing here at least 1 time).

  • tom

    they still went to the NBA finals
    thats how good he is

  • tom

    Unacceptable
    He is no longer the best player in the league
    I’d take curry, PG, Durant Griffin and Harden over him any day.

  • Yascar

    Thanks! Merry Christmas to you!

  • 1mtoldman

    thanks. exclamation points are always good.

  • JoeTeam

    Analyst said it was 3 of 4 missed to get to a one possession game, so I’d say that was good for orcl crowd.

  • JoeTeam

    It was a game until lebron missed his and iggy, dgreen made their last threefoff two layups by steph.

  • adele

    Just got a Lin jersey as Christmas gift.

  • Seahawk

    JLin cannot miss a ft so does Lebron.

  • Findersam

    I agree with you that it is awe inspiring to think about. It reminds me of what Paul said in his letter to the Philippians – “…he made himself nothing, by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness” It’s easy to see his humility and sacrifice on the cross… but when you think about his birth – that (as another version says…) he emptied himself – he gave up all the glory and majesty of heaven – everything that made him God – all the power, knowledge, transcendence, etc… he who had no beginning and no end and was in no danger of death gave all that up to be born a fragile, frail, dependent human being – born to die like Acbc said. It’s amazing. Any humility we can “achieve” can never compare because none of us could ever start out in the place and position he did. Anyway – thanks for the discussion… thinking about it has made my Christmas even more special and meaningful. Blessings!

  • Acbc

    Now you are comparing apples to oranges. Lin’s game is a lot better than Kobe’s. I would even say that if he was given a chance like the other “deserving” stars, Lin would produce Linsanity level stats….stats and records that still stand. How Kobe still gets voted in isn’t based upon stats now, it’s just popularity. In that measure Lin SHOULD be voted in.

    I don’t vote because of my antagonism towards the NBA system of favouritism for popularity and the star system. I’m boycotting the process all together. I don’t ever watch any all star games because it is narcissistic and does nothing to promote the team concept of what could be a beautiful game. If it wasn’t for Lin, I’d never even watch NBA and watch only sports that define greatness by merit and not popularity.

    For the fans that chooses to play in the game as it is set up, the popularity contest is meant to drive fan interest and media attention. The ballot system doesn’t stipulate players merits or how much they deserve to be in the game. ITS A POPULARITY CONEST. you have your way but other Lin fans are doing exactly as the rules are set up and how this popularity contest game is designed.

  • sport

    That was a long time ago, Dwight also went to the NBA finals carrying his own team yet look at him now, no where near Championship.

  • sport

    KD plus a great coach similar to Erik Spoelstra or Phil Jackson. With Curry most likely winning his 2nd ring this year. I’m sure KD will have lot of thinking to do once his contract is up.

  • DX

    Actually, there are millions Lin fans in China, but don’t know if they are voting or count by NBA.

  • DX

    Just make an example, Yao can get over 10M votes if 30% his fans voted in China.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    It’s however one perceives it. If it is a popular vote, Lin in there indicates popularity. But objectively for all-star, no. Can he be 6th man? That would be nice. Even if he’s in the running that would be great.

    I think Lin’s popularity is well-known. It’s almost a hinderance to him.

  • sws94

    I hope not. They’ve fallen off badly. They couldn’t keep up their level of play, Batum isn’t really charismatic or a guy so many tune into watch. Kemba is fairly likeable but I don’t think he’s a much-watch guy either.

  • Lin Win

    The majority of them love Kobe! They sold more Kobe Jerseys than Yao Ming .
    Of course voting is counted by the NBA.

  • JoeTeam

    yup he wants that ring.

  • tom

    He can definitely be in the 6th man conversation
    but if he ends up starting in the ASG, thats not gonna look good on anyone
    is all I’m saying
    Already looked a little ugly when Yao made it year after year even when he was injured

  • tom

    His production went down
    Durant is still killing it
    and it was not a long time ago

  • JoeTeam

    I see, Jesus is the Son, the prince of peace and he became a baby in a manger. Thank you for the reference. The example is a good one, to give it all up and be a servant of mankind, of peace.

  • JoeTeam

    “I’m the best player in the world” can miss 3 to put his team out while he’s taking his team on his back. LOL, only thing that could have been better for a Lin fan’s values is if TDuncan and KL won today. Ah well, it’s a great Christmas, with the convo on humility and sacrifice below, started by JLin.

  • JoeTeam

    btw, thanks, do you post here much. Good post!

  • tom

    “Lin’s game is a lot better than Kobe’s.” thats very subjective and i dont know if thats something you can compare

    “If he was given a chance…” you can say this about many other players but they aren’t theres only one ball to go around

    Usually, the most skilled players are most popular. Lin is popular because he has a unique background lets not forget that also
    Kobe is not deserving this year wasnt last year either
    and people trashed him for getting voted in
    This year is his last. For everythng hes done in his career he deserves it and Jordan started too in his last year.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin is available at his prime. 76er doesn’t have to give up draft choices or players to compete for the service of Lin. All the team needs to do is to make an offer to Lin that he can’t refuse from his favourite coach whom Lin called a genius.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Both are not players that command high energy from teammates.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Now MDA has received the recognition from the league because of the success of Golden States and their style of play over old school. In fact old school coaches have all been schooled badly in the last few seasons. Even Indiana has changed and they immediately become an much improved team. BS has been the worst coach consistently. McHale is fired. Any more old school left to be fired!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Rebuilding doesn’t take too much time. Indiana has just rebuilt their team by changing their playbook. Look at their result. Of course rebuilding needs a master mind and MDA is exactly one of the best in the league. He is a pioneer. Now the old schoolers are all submissive to the new trend of NBA basketball because teams like Lakers, and others are at the cellars looking up.

  • sws94

    I think the Philly wish is becoming an ungrounded this must happen scenario for a lot of people on the board. Fact is
    a) LIn has a lot of games left with his present team and who knows how that will play out.
    b) Forgetting general stuff we know about MDA and Lin, neither is saying anything about him joining Philadelphia
    c) When Lin decides he has his own criteria. Fans are now going into great detail to make a case for one team that may be way off from the criteria that Lin decides on next season

    My position remains the same. It is way to early to think of who he plays for in October 2016. This season hasn’t defined itself and I seriously think fans are getting way ahead of themselves with an almost obsession about MDA with Lin again. Right now they are what they are, a team in transition with an abysmal record.

  • sws94

    It’s your wish along with others. Fact remains, Lin has said nothing about it. It still remains many fans wish and nothing else.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The coach will always have the final words because he has the power to bench the player.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I prefer gold like the Super Saiyan.

  • Michael

    Merry X’mas to you Australia…tbh I kept typing @Australia …..

  • Findersam

    I post a little, but not very much or very often. I do lurk a lot though and enjoy reading others’ posts.

  • Michael

    Should be able to go neck to neck with bay-watch.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is X’mas. Go to bed and dream your impossible dream.
    Jeremy Lin is in good hands and his future is drawn and ordained before you know it. LOL.
    Nice talking to you.

  • sws94

    Sir, I don’t mean to throw cold water on a wish but it is taking on a proportion I think that now makes little sense. And the timing also isn’t right. Let Philly play out and Lin in Charlotte play out and to me it makes more sense to wait until more is clear. Right now, it is still a bunch of people’s wish over anything substantive regarding Lin or MDA.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s just too obvious that Lin will move to another team next season. At present, the cold water helps Lin and refreshes his game. What an enlightening festival to talk about Jeremy and his future. Thank God.

  • sws94

    Why do you look past this season? That’s my question? Understood you may not love Charlotte or this team but his future is his future and his present may determine that future. Right now, nothing is decided. That’s my whole issue of talking about November 2016. There is a lot of season left and it is December 25. 2015. There is all of Jan, Feb, Mar, April with, I don’t know how many, 54 or so games left to play. That’s a lot of time left to play and I lot more Lin will learn about his status and skills as a player, if there is a future for him in Charlotte as the team may improve and get more chemistry in a few weeks or so, and if not, considering all he’s considering that we don’t know, what he’ll do. But again, *he’s not there yet*. Because you and others are looking past now doesn’t mean he is.

  • Steppen03

    Aww, Spurs lost to the Rockets (Parker’s only 3 points) !
    Thunders lost to the Bulls !
    It’s anybody’s game… like always!
    So, that’s why I wasn’t too down when the Hornets didn’t get it done with the C’s and Rox. There’s still plenty o’ games left to prove.

  • sws94

    I guess Parker plays poorly on Christmas. Lin did a great defensive job I think it was Christmas a few years ago. Spurs didn’t play that well tonight. Bickerstaff has the Rockets playing well. But can he sustain it?

  • sws94

    Clippers are blowing out the Lakers. Hornets should as well, or at least win a no-doubter against them.

  • Steppen03

    Absolutely!
    Curry & Warriors – Two-Peat!!! That’s What I want since last season!!!
    KD – IDK- Westbrook and him IS still a deadly duo – they certainly can go toe to toe with Curry & Co. I’m not sleeping on OKC. KD can go somewhere else but the grass is not always greener on the other side.

  • Steppen03

    Nah, the Rockets is a yo-yo team this season. Last year was a fluke. FLUKE!
    It’s time for me to say that word (a payback as you will)… Disgusted by that word…. Rockets’ success is a FLUKE!!! I call it now: First Round Exit if they do make playoffs.

  • Steppen03

    I’m with you on this. We really don’t know what’s behind closed doors in the Sixers. I just don’t want to get all worked up for nothing much in the end…. But sure it’ll be great if the good friendship and bond can be together again – May Wishes Come True.
    But for now: Hornets grab Top 4 EC and go deep into postseason with a lot of Linspired basketball.

  • cdblue10

    Can’t trust Hornets if their superstars are Batum and Kemba,if they will play as a role players then they can easily win this game.OTOH,they’ll lose this game if they’ll marginalized their best player.

  • JoeTeam

    Post more for 2016! It’s a convo, you in? (Coach Nick)

  • Rick Johnson

    Can’t train a cat to bark, can’t train BScott to coach.

    https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/679911473238298624?s=09

  • JoeTeam

    he got hit in the face by Bev.

  • sws94

    The Hornets play as a team, they’ll easily beat LA. If they don’t, then they can lose to almost anyone. However, it’s hard for LAL to beat anyone. They really just aren’t coached well.

  • spiderman

    Kobes mind blowing wisdom

  • Acbc

    What is ungrounded about a wish for lin to find a better job? It’s a wish that’s all. WHAT IS GROUNDED HOWEVER is the way Lin IS BEING USED RIGHT NOW. What is fact is that Lin has been used exclusively to be a support player that does the heavy lifting with very little of the merit that would promote him ahead to leadership position. Lin is not the leader on this team and unless something drastic happens to change the situation his foreseeable future is not such a rewarding one.

    Khuang and I and other veteran Lin fans have come to appreciate Lin “winning” at whatever scraps he’s given by coaches. So even while Hornets are losing, we can appreciate Lin and BF1 “winning”. Lin controls his circle and he wins within that circle. This is probably how you view his place in Charlette as well. There is one big difference between us and that is just being a defensive specialist, a SG scorer or a perfect receiver for passes isn’t nearly as gratifying to either Khuang or I as Lin running the point. That to us is the most disappointing aspect of Clifford’s usage of Lin. The genius of Lin is being untapped and unused in Charlotte! Horents are losing and may lose even more games yet. I’d much rather see Lin lose in Sixers while “winning” by building chemistry and being the transformative player that Lin is.

    What we wish for is for MDA to put the ball in Lin’s hands again so that he could create that magic again. Losing games in Philli while “winning” within his circle is what matters to us. Lin “winning” is helping his teammates to be better players. With a coach that understands him and appreciates how important coach Lin’s role is, we will again see the true beauty of team play, Linsanity style. The Sixers under guidance of winners like Colangelo, MDA and Lin will turn the Sixers around.

  • sws94

    Lin played one Linsanity game but also well for being one of the main parts of the win in other games. He’s not reached a real hot streak yet. There’s so much more from Lin. I just hope pieces come together as in Frank and Cody catch and convert his passes, Kemba looks to Lin to create shots for him and Lin finds Kemba and Batum on passes, more lobs to Lamb and Batum come and maybe others, stuff like that. The better Lin’s team mates work for him, the better he does. He can’t do it without his team mates. You can’t lift guys weighed down by anchors of their own making (playing poorly).

    On Lin’s own end, watch tape. Cut down on offensive fouls, use mid-range more, use floaters more, recognize traps and double-teams earlier, take shots sometimes instead of dish off if they are there. When you receive the ball in the 4th, always look to create a play that will lead to a basket, not just dribble and pass without setting up a play or scoring.

  • cdblue10

    Every good team can easily beat a bad team but for Hornets I can’t trust them esp.if they don’t play the right way.The problem with Hornets is their so called superstars are just role players but their trying to pad their stats just to be look like superstars so that they can be included in the ALL STAR GAMES.Batum and Kemba are just role players nothing else,if they can’t accept that then Hornets can lose even to lowly 76’ers.

  • sws94

    On a really historically abysmal team because of MDA. That’s ungrounded. There’s a lot of myth surrounding MDA, and Lin to an extent here. Not reality.

    Looking at his overall record, he’s not a winning coach. He had a horrible 6 game losing streak leading to him resigning from the Knicks in 2012. He had losing records with the Lakers and then resigned from them before Lin joined the Lakers. That’s his LATEST accomplishment. He isn’t a turnaround a bad team coach. So, saying Lin is going to come in at this stage in the game and just turn the team around is a lot of hope and not a lot of realistic, concrete examples of him doing so. Lin lost the games after the nice win streak. The loss streak happened. You can blame it on Anthony or not, but Lin was on that team and MDA was coaching it. Where’s the reality in there? Where is the sustained example of Lin being able to win over a season for months, not just for weeks of Linsanity? It’s not there.

    This isn’t to slight Lin but let’s be realistic about him rather than giving him qualities that haven’t been proven over sustained time. Lin is ridiculously scouted now and a lot of teams aren’t going to let Lin go crazy like he did in 2012. And we see this. A few nice games and then Lin is neutralized. That’s reality. Sorry to throw cold water in people’s faces but it is. If Lin was capable of going on these long runs he would have with MDA in 2012, with the others. He’s a wonderful guy to watch and root for and can be the essential part and leader of a team that wins. But he needs others as a great 5 on 5 player. In reality, he doesn’t turn around a team as pathetic, as absolutely abysmal as Philly, by himself with guys that don’t know how to win in the NBA.

    The problem is Philly. You want to think of Lin turning around the Pelicans, I’m 100 percent behind you. But there is nothing realistic in MDA’s history that shows he can take a worse than horrible team and make them winners over an extended period of time. And Lin’s either. So it doesn’t fly with me to wish Lin to create some miracle that is more based on wishes and hopes than anything else. Why oh why are you not seeing just how abysmal, just how utterly awful Philly is? Their record speaks for itself and it isn’t getting any better. Will they even win 10 games this season?

    We have a real situation in Charlotte and we talk so much about a horrendous team and wanting Lin there, I think is just overkill. And again, nothing is showing now there is any REAL possibility of Lin going there. Nothing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_New_York_Knicks_season

    Look at the game logs Feb and March. Let’s not pretend March didn’t happen.

    And:

  • sws94

    I’ve heard no one at all call Batum or Kemba “superstars”. They are the leading players on the team and have the biggest roles and may be borderline star players at most. They were winning and they can win again. I can’t take a 3 game losing streak and jump to conclusions about them just as I can’t take their winning streaks and make them world beaters. They are good enough to compete with the Eastern teams any night and lose or win depending on how the game evolves and how they execute. But, there is a lot more than just Batum or Kemba, there’s also Cody, Al and others that matter in how they play.

  • sws94

    Dogs and fire hydrants and barking cats. OK, Kobe.

  • cdblue10

    There’s is no execution of plays on this team,it’s just Kemba and Batum trying to pass to each other and bricking their shots most of the time.I’m tired watching this 2 players trying to lead this team that they aren’t capable with.With their selfishness,they can’t even recognized that they’re the reason of losing games most of the time.

  • sws94

    Lin’s numbers and why it is not a bad thing if they are never as they were in his Linsanity run

    Lin’s numbers were absolutely through the roof during Linsanity. Why? He was the guy who needed to make those numbers. He was the sole facilitator and assist maker and was ball dominant. So, huge numbers. And he can do it. No doubt. And he still can now under similar circumstances come close, even well scouted and game-planned. No doubt.

    But here’s the reality. In most cases, Lin will not be the sole facilitator. If he never plays for any coach that makes the PG the focus of the offense and plays with coaches that have the PG set up some plays and other plays through another ball-dominant player, he needs to be the best he can be NEXT TO A BALL DOMINANT PLAYER.

    That’s why what is going on with Clifford is important. He’s actually figuring out how to be an impact player next to a ball-dominant player and a designated main facilitator. If Lin still is able to make huge impacts in the 4th quarter and throughout the game in that scenario, do you realize how complete a player he is? One of the biggest places Lin needed to develop was thriving next to a ball-dominant player. If Lin can find ways in his play and with a coach that will allow some of that to DRIP in, not be done wholesale like having Lin become PG to take out another PG, but to have Lin more and more facilitate incrementally and be involved in each play, he can thrive in any system.

    Putting Lin into a PG or nothing basket is limiting him. It’s limiting him to being fluent and great in that system. But truthfully, that system while wonderful at one time, is not the way the NBA is going. And there are a lot of ball-dominant guys on many teams. Not ball-hog types like Monta Ellis. But ball-dominant guys like LMA. Now LMA is learning how not to be so ball dominant with the Spurs. That improves LMA.

    I don’t agree Lin is not reaching potential or improving or getting valuable playing time and growing his game under Clifford. If you can accept his numbers won’t be what they could be if he was sole PG, and that he’ll get insane numbers just some of the time, I think you may open up to perhaps seeing that he can thrive as not an off-ball player, but the great all-around player he is becoming next to almost any type of player. And in a system that is not catered to the PG, but to another player and he is key in working his game WITH that player or players.

  • sws94

    Oh yes there is. That’s an extreme and a looking at only the downside. They execute fine sometimes and the team is not just Kemba and Batum. Marvin, Cody, Hawes, Lamb, a bunch of other players aren’t playing well either. If you throw the ball to someone and they fumble it, that’s not on Batum, Kemba or Lin, that’s on them.

  • cdblue10

    We see games differently and there’s nothing wrong with that,if they don’t change their game plan,this team won’t reach the playoff.

  • sws94

    They have to start winning and make adjustments. But they can win. They are just in a slump right now.

  • Solo

    and soft toilet tissue…….

  • cdblue10

    Yes they made an adjustments making Kemba as the sole PG both on 1st and 2nd unit.Kemba is not a facilitator.he is a small SG,while Batum is a SF not a SG.Until they won’t correct this mistake,pile of losses will come up.

  • sws94

    He is not the PG on the second unit. Bashing Kemba to elevate Lin isn’t cool. It’s like anti-Lin fans that bash him and say he’s why the team lost games and such. Kemba is a decent guy and he and Lin are teammates. I don’t care what they call any of these players, they all facilitate or score and they have to find a better balance. Lin has to work with Kemba. If that doesn’t happen, then turn them off because you won’t be enjoying the game and hope he joins another team. If he doesn’t, then I guess you won’t enjoy any of his games.

  • cdblue10

    I’m not bashing him,I’m just stating the facts.We have different views about Lin situation,you have your own integration about Lin on this team and that’s fine,but if you keep insisting that Kemba and Batum is the leader of this team then that’s your own perception and own view but don’t try to stop me about my perception of Lin’s situation on this team.

  • real-dsb

    It is atrocious that Kobe is leading ASG voting by a massive margin. 1mtoldman was right in his prediction.

    Yes, I know that ASG is about popularity and not merit, but this is still egregious. Only 23 days left, just vote for Steph (to beat Kobe) and Lin. http://vote.nba.com

  • real-dsb

    If Lin had 77,000 votes this year, he’d be #6 in the EC. Let’s keep the votes coming.

  • real-dsb

    I understand and respect your point of view. I had the same sentiment in 2012-13 year.

    But rest assured, Lin will not make it to ASG this year neither by fan vote nor coach selection, so you can comfortably just vote for him out of support without the fear of backlash if he gets an ASG spot.

  • 1mtoldman

    hey! my name mentioned in a postive way 2 times in a row (also on michael “sleep-watcher” named list and now this.)

    must be christmas miracles. (or at least gift).

  • Acbc

    What you are saying makes no sense. Would you ask Stef Curry to be a defensive specialist or SG?Would you ask a quarterback to play running back or receiver just so that he could be more capable as a player to fully understand the nuances of those roles? No!

    What you fail to grasp is that Lin can be all that if asked to do it. Yes it will prove to haters that he doesn’t need to be a ball dominant player. Yes he can defend , yes he can go left, yes he can be this or that to silence all the critics; but in the mean time he’s unable to do the one thing he really wants to do, and that’s to help create for his teammates. Even with the small role he’s given, he’s always a pass first “whatever”. Haters will hate. The one thing I do know is that a player like Lin will fit his game to the role a coach will ask him to be and do it well. But when a player does that, they are not practicing the special talent that makes them unique and special.

    Finally Lin has a chance to reunite with the one coach who may actually want Lin to do what he does best and you keep insisting that Lin’s better off in Charlette. We will know soon enough what Lin will choose to do.

  • adele

    They are not in the play offs at this point. Some people has to wake up. If they will change their game plan after the all star, it might be too late. But at least Lin can gain some stats. I hope.

  • adele

    Oh. Heart, youre so special. You’re the best!

  • adele

    Asking this question is humble enough in reaching out. You are already in God’s grace. What Heart had explained is very enlightening and full of wisdom and spirit.

  • Acbc

    Yeah that’s what happens when the superstar stops playing for you and tries to get you fired. Both Melo and Kobe hated that MDA tried to run the team his way and that’s why MDA was shown the highway.

    You can rewrite history whatever way you want, but the truth is that the system MDA invented is the one that is now winning and all the others are doubters are scratching their heads wondering how GSWs are doing what they are doing? Yeah Curry is a great shooter, BUT the system is taylor made for his strengths. (Look at Lin’s one game where plays were ACTUALLY DESOGNED FOR HIM TO SHINE, Lin scored 35 easily while not even having ball in hand. Lin was playing the SG role.)

    Let’s see how Curry would do playing in Charlette in Lin’s role for a coach that has no clue about offence. A great player needs a coach and system to make him shine. MJ and Kobe had Phil Jackson and Tex to design a system to bring out their strengths. Why would you want Lin to be denied an opportunity to play for a coach that can taylor make a system that could bring out Lin’s strengths?

  • Acbc

    You must have been on the good list after all.

  • Hope

    Since AJ is back, will Lin minutes be in range 15-23?

  • Acbc

    I wonder if they called a foul on Parker? Lol

  • sws94

    I guess my fact to all fans who follow Lin and something I’m aware of now is you never have a perfect team. You always have a player that compromises Lin’s production. I don’t know why you think I’m insisting that Kemba and Batum are leaders on the team. Kemba is a leader. That’s something everyone should know as he’s been on the team a long time and just about every team member has said so. That’s just observation to know that. Batum is a floor leader and again that’s by observation. Lin is a leader too, but he is behind Kemba and Batum and that’s by observation.

    If all us fans do is find a way on EVERY team that somebody prevents Lin from doing things then our critics are right about us in saying we are always claiming someone holds Lin back. There are no teams when another player may not want the ball and Lin has to share responsibilities with the team. Not even the Linsanity Knicks. Lin only was “the man” due to an injury to Anthony. Once Anthony was back, he was the main guy on the team and Lin’s numbers went down.

  • sws94

    Highly doubt it.

  • sws94

    I think you’re making excuses now. If it happens once, yes, if it happens twice, maybe, just maybe MDA isn’t the end all and be all of coaches and that’s a weakness in him. George Karl is making Cousins play now, and a few weeks ago it seems like that would never happen. Some coaches control star players better than others. And like I said before, Okafor can turn into one and think he’s one. In my opinion, if players don’t all buy into MDA system, then he doesn’t win that much.

    What history am I rewriting? You haven’t disproved what I said about MDA not turning around a bad team. Going by his latest record on bad teams is prudent. I said it is a wish and only a wish that he can do so. He hasn’t.

    I wrote why Lin having a system tailored to his strengths is not necessarily a good thing. Because in reality, in most situations, say even if he did play for MDA and say again MDA doesn’t turn the team around and he gets fired and say Lin did play for him, how well prepared is Lin to play in another system? I think very well if he continues on the road now, because if he can play with ball-dominant players and still be a big factor, then he’s a complete player that doesn’t rely on a crutch of a system tailored for him.

    I fundamentally and strongly disagree with you that he should go to a system tailored for him where he has an opportunity to figure out a way to play well with 2 other facilitators now. And I won’t change that. So we might as well not go back and forth if we are going to deal with perceptions of what MDA can do or not do. It won’t go anywhere to make the same points over and over.

    Fact remains, and this is fact. MDA is not the head coach, on Phily. They’ve won 1 game only this season which is abysmal. Lin is not over there, what happened in NY happened with the Knicks in both the winning streak and losing streaks and MDA didn’t finish out the end of that season. It’s Woodson that saved the team because he utilized Lin and Anthony and that’s what a coach sometimes has to do, tweak his system to the players he has to keep a team engaged and productive.

  • Chopz

    Exactly. Go big or go home. If jlin were to think he was second fiddle, he never would have made it in the nba and stayed here til now.

    Steph curry just said in an interview that in his mind, he is the best player in the nba. It helps him to stay uber competitive and remain physically and mentally prepared to play well every single game.

    We believe in you jlin, you da man, swing for the fences my friend, the world is yours.

  • Acbc

    Have you ever coached before? I have and I can tell you that when players look you in the eye and you get a blank stare back. There’s absolutely nothing you could do or say to make them do the things you need them to do.

    I happen to think MDA is a great coach. His record with the Suns was stellar. Had they not been cheated by the Spurs in game 6 of western conference final, they would have won the ring that year. So don’t give any garbage about his record. You know something, I don’t think MDA needs Lin to turn the Sixers around. That’s how good a coach he is. The set up there now is pretty much like the Suns FO and the winning attitude will filter down from the top in a no nonsense way. Guys will play the System or be shipped out.

    We will continue to disagree on this subject, but if you keep posting BS about how great the system is in Charlette and how great Clifford is as a coach for Lin, I’m going to post contrary ideas to counter you’re memes to balance out the points.

  • CJSHYY
  • Acbc

    Melo came back and made sure to put Linsanity back into a can. MDA didn’t want that to happen and he was fired for it. Melo replaced MDA with a yes man. Where’s Woodson now? Yes man is now back to his former assistant job and the Knicks still needs a PG.

    You understand that Lin was the man when given the opportunity by circumstance and MDA, Linsanity records were made with only one starter. Lin and MDA can do it again in Sixers.

    Why do you want Lin to be stuck in a situation that has no chance for him to be “the man”. You said it yourself, Lin was the man in the right circumstances. Well Sixers is the right circumstance. The fans want to win, the players want to win, the coach wants to win and the GM wants to win, AND THEYLL HAVE THE LEAGUES PULLING FOR THEM TO CHANGE THE FRANCHISE AROUND. The circumstances are aligned in such a way that all Lin needs to do is take the chance to go there and play his game.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Let’s keep voting everyday.

  • Chopz

    Jeremy lin is a “cool cat” and kobe barked at him all last year. Kobe’s so full of it cuz he barked at everybody the last few years.

    “It makes no sense to be yelling at it” – well u made no sense in the last few years because there wasn’t anybody u didn’t yell at.

    Make buckets at least, if you’re going to be yelling at people. Retire already old timer, oh i forgot, you are.

  • sws94

    MDA went on a winning streak, went on a losing streak, done. There’s no more to say, we’re going in circles now.

  • your son’s voltaire

    AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHY LIN SHOULD CONSIDER PLAYING FOR MDA NEXT SEASON. everything you wrote are pretty much arguments that supports it

  • sws94

    It’s not BS, it’s what you don’t want to hear. We don’t need to talk about this anymore. What I wrote is I think objective and maybe different from a popular line of thinking, but it doesn’t make it invalid.

  • sws94

    If there is someone with new ideas on this, fine. Otherwise, it becomes a pro LIn to Philly camp vs. my ideas story and both have been stated and restated enough. Above is a summary and I want to get back to Lin and the more games he’s playing. Maybe I won’t look at this board in-between games because seriously, I’m bored with the MDA stuff. There’s other stuff to talk about.

  • your son’s voltaire

    well, you’re the one who keep bringing up the topic yet you’re bored with it? strange logic. which is what i’ve been trying to tell you. everything you wrote are pretty much arguments that disproves your own views

  • Hope

    Thแบฅy is great news. Lin will be 76ers for sure if this is true.

  • Acbc

    If you stop running that circle I’ll stop running as well.

  • sws94

    I’ve stopped. Why did you even reply? I’m done and have said so already.

  • Acbc

    “In 2003, he was hired with 61 games left in the season as the head coach of the Phoenix Suns[3] and, despite leading the team to a poor record in the second half of the year, he received a vote of confidence for producing inspired play from an injury riddled team. With the acquisition of free agent Steve Nash before the 2004-05 season, who was experienced in a run-and-gun style from his previous stint with the Dallas Mavericks, this began an incredible turnaround for the Phoenix Suns. Nash excelled running D’Antoni’s pick-and-roll offense.[4] D’Antoni won the NBA Coach of the Year Award after his Suns went 62โ€“20 to finish first in the regular season. His style, dubbed “Seven Seconds or Less,” was described in a book of that name. Overall, his Suns won fifty or more games in four consecutive seasons, while Nash earned NBA MVP honors in 2005 and 2006. In addition to Nash, D’Antoni’s Suns also featured All-Star power forward Amar’e Stoudemire and high-flying small forward Shawn Marion. They made consecutive appearances in the Western Conference finals in 2005 and 2006, losing to the San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks, respectively.”

  • kittyhead

    Why is it great news? Kind of disappointed.๏ผš ๏ผˆ

  • sws94

    Post Suns is what concerns me. Knicks and Lakers, resigned from both teams. Can’t stay with the Suns glory, his later tendencies are what they are.

  • sws94

    There is no news. Lin is not going anywhere as of now. Members are speculating and that’s all this is. Speculation.

  • CJSHYY

    Great News? I don’t think Lin will be a 76 this season. As for 76 to give up 2 2nd round picks for a player they didn’t want this summer….? Looks pretty weird move to me. ??

  • Hope

    If mda has that influence on personnel, then he can bring in lin. I believe mda is really high on Lin.

  • Hope

    It’s great news in tem of mda influence on getting personnel.

  • Hope

    I don’t really care about the now. I’m excited talking about the possibility that lin will finally can run his own team which he has not had since Melo came back.

  • sws94

    I know. Answer remains. Nothing but speculation and posters hoping for something more than any real evidence to show Lin is going there.

  • 1mtoldman

    as i think i tried to explain a bit before to me it reaffirms the change in wind direction in philly w/ colangelo in and hinkie (effectively) out.

    hinkie want picks.
    dont give up picks.

    colangelo dont care what hinkie want. winds of change. it is reported both mda (now) and (previously) noel like smith.

    so what it says to me is last summer hinkie and the process in charge.

    now hinkie and the process over and this is a symbolic example of the change.

  • Charlie Sun

    That’s weird that they would grab a guy that will be UFA at the end of the season.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I said… plus they didn’t want him this summer… but now gave up 2 2nd round picks for him???

  • heart

    Thank you Adele. God bless you.

  • Acbc

    It has nothing to do with Sixers. If MDA was coaching on the moon, we’d want Lin to play for him there. We’ve been saying it for 3 years just waiting for MDA to get a chance to coach again. It just happens to be in Sixers.

  • CJSHYY
  • Acbc

    Same reason you replied.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    He’ll play some with Lin and Kemba. But he may be in Lin’s unit. We’ll see how Cliff rotates him in.

  • cdblue10

    Ish Smith is an upgrade on their current PG’s and bringing him now will solidify 76’ers bench next year.Lin’s situation in Hornets is just a 1 year deal.I don’t think they can afford Batum,Marv,Al and Lin next year unless they trade someone with a caliber of Kemba to improve their roster.Meanwhile ,Philly has a lot of assets and money to run for veterans and a PG that can run the playbook of D’Antoni with perfection without hindrance.

  • cdblue10

    Now,Hornets has a perfect combo on their second unit and that’s their real starters…LOL!!!!As long as Kemba won’t play 41mins and run the 2nd unit as a PG,Hornets adjustments will improve their offensive flow tremendously.Al is a big threat in the middle and that’s a perfect situation for Lin to operate and read what the defense give.

  • tom

    It’s his last year
    Let the man live a little lol

  • Spot

    Please Mike, please. You know who get now

  • JoeTeam

    Bev and Parker talked about it for a long time, that Bev … you know.

  • heart

    Does this mean Ish Smith is a placeholder for Lin after this season? MDA recognizes talents and has no qualms of giving a chance to Ish Smith, an undrafted 6.0′ PG. Lin is also an undrafted 6.3′ PG. Is it too far-fetched to speculate that perhaps this move is to get Smith up-to-speed MDA’s offense? And once Lin is ready to join the team, he will be allowed to lead it since Lin is already familiar w/ MDA’s system? MDA and Coangelo are working together to change the direction of 76rs. Bret Brown and Hinkie are just following their lead. So many questions, but one thing for sure MDA is an active NBA Coach again, albeit from behind-the-scene. At least this time MDA has a powerful ally and is exercising his power. The stars are aligning for Lin? This will be the hottest news in the NBA if and when this happens…

  • Spot

    To me Ish could be like Barbosa in Phoenix… Or in GS last year ๐Ÿ˜€

    But we know who they miss now…

  • JoeTeam

    That is true, the heart (lol) of it for Christians is accepting Christ as lord and savior, on a personal level. That’s the gift, by grace it is said. It’s very hard to live in gratitude to that standard every day, with all one’s heart for any faith, so the journey may be more important than the meeting a hurdle. Sort of like Lin in the NBA, but he has to be playing and playing well the role he sees as his calling. Then the lessons of letting go – to accept the humble gift. Lots to balance to do our best, I guess …

  • heart

    Yep. Biding time I think. MDA mentioned to Lin when they both missed crossing path in LA. We’d think MDA knows that Lin will be FA and available soon.

  • tom

    Lin is not Curry
    For one, he’s not the shooter that Curry is.
    They are different types of players.
    I think the 76ers would rather go for a younger PG who seems to have more upside.
    He had a good thing going with MDA but things are different now this team is trying to rebuild and Lin is already 28

  • Spot

    Curry is not the distributor Jeremy is.

    Nash wasn’t much younger when he went to Phoenix.

  • Spot

    It could happen now but depends what Hornets ask for.

  • Rick Johnson

    So seeing as how there is no way Kemba could be in the All Star Game will they stop catering to him trying to build up his numbers trying to create a fake All Star and let JLin play the PG more?

    https://twitter.com/SwarmnSting/status/680782278159536128

  • jakey

    I wonder if Wade is so high up there because he’s signed by a Chinese shoe brand? The company might be pushing the votes hard for him in China. Just my thought

  • occupatio

    since it IS a popularity contest, why take it so seriously? relax.

  • occupatio

    that sounds like hawes is going to DNPCD-ed this game, or get few minutes.

  • Spot

    Even Harden got less votes than Jeremy. Then Houston pumped up his number to get him in ASG by stats.

    Jeremy will be in ASG when or if he will have his team.

  • PETE B

    its like the show hoarders , Hinkie is begrudingly clearing out his hoard of “assets”
    MDA has to give Gentry his close friend colleague some fair friendly price for Ish Smith

  • Rick Johnson

    At lease Harden was close. Kemba isn’t even in the top 10. Don’t know what the full results are. Wonder where Kemba ended up?

  • Spot

    They’re tied to Kemba, not to Jeremy.

    They will pump Kemba and Batum even harder.

  • PETE B

    heres my analysis , win-win-win deal ,
    MDA gets a PG for Brown and his new MDA offense
    76 win games
    Noel gets his PG back and redmeption from Hinkie tanking and tampering
    Gentry gets Hinkie assets to build around Anthony Davis
    Josh Harris refurbishes his team valuation
    lastly Hinkie gets to keep his job

  • TTNN

    no, Kemba had the reputation of weak starting PG for years, there is no way he will go ahead of all other EC guards. Also, Harden could get to the FT line, thus as long as he had ball in his hand, given playing time, he will get his stats, Kemba was not able to achieve that, he had that opportunity for past couple of years already. Only chance is they push for Batum.

  • adele

    Nice to know people like you and Heart with a profound spiritual sense in them. I guess that’s one of the benefits of knowing and following Lin.

  • TTNN

    I actually liked AI play with Lin, he is legit threat under the basket, and if Lin was let to play PG, Lin will feed AI enough to make damage, way better than have Hawes/Cody there. As long as coach don’t play PJ in that line up, I think their defense is enough. Oh, as long as coach don’t start Kaminsky, I like AI/Kaminsky pair, not AI/Cody pair.

  • adele

    Yes because they don’t need the fans votes. They know Kemba is not that popular. They need the coaches votes.

  • Charlie Sun

    Nah. When your strategy isn’t working you double down on it duh (see BS for example)

  • Chopz

    Mda on the moon. “Lin-ar New Year” on monday feb 8th, love it. Moonsanity.

  • JoeTeam

    adele, every day I tell myself I gotta improve so it keeps me young. M Scott Peck wrote in The Road Less Traveled (Robert Frost wrote the great poem The Road Not Taken) and People of the Lie: people let world maps get our of date, and they then start to navigate to wrong places. So anyway, no matter what I think I know, I end my day with asking what I learned or did wrong. I guess I should also have gratitude added to that, to accept grace more.

  • new MEM game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g29-mem-cha-game-thread/

    After a road win at Memphis, Hornets has lost 6 out of 7 games before they face the Grizzlies again tonight.

    The only game they won was when JLin started in place of an ill Batum.
    1. Has the Hornets offense become too predictable with too many 3s and not enough PnRs?
    2. With Al coming back with the 2nd unit tonight, will it help the Bench Force 1?
    3. Will Kemba and Batum poor 36% shooting in the past 5 games improve tonight? They will need to improve their 3pt shooting accuracy (13% for Kemba and 27% for Batum) if the Hornets want to increase their chance to win.

    Letโ€™s go, JLin! Letโ€™s continue to shoot at least 10 FG & 4 FT attempts. Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens

  • Guest

    If Al is a starter, why not give him a few minutes at a time with the first unit to get back in rhythm and game shape. Hornets are not giving Jeremy enough credit in helping his teammates be better players.

  • JoeTeam

    JLin will be especially centered after a Christmas off from work, parents (lol), hanging with the bros and sister-in-law, and watching LeBron-ball lose to team ball. But I take that back, he also had to suffer through SAS losing to HOU.

    Today should be a great game I sense.

  • adele

    Very profound Joe Team. Makes me feel so blessed meeting somebody like you even if its in a Lin blog site. Knowing Lin can do wonders to a lot of people not just basketball.

  • tom

    Curry is actually a pretty good passer
    He’s definitely a better player than Lin
    Nash already established himself as a really good PG then
    Completely different story Lin isnt like Nash at all

  • Spot

    No, he’s not.

    Curry has great ball handling to create his own shot;

    Jeremy always look for passing, not scoring. He’s an old school PG. And that’s why players like Tyson Chandler, Omer Asik, Steve Novak, Iman Shumpert, Landry Fields etc had their best stats with mr. Jeremy Lin.

  • tom

    If you think Lin is better than Curry and Nash then wow its you against the world
    and Lin’s still better at scoring than passing hes a good passer too but not as good as Nash and them hes not a great one

  • Findersam

    Haha – I’ll try to do better this year. ๐Ÿ™‚