G21 MIA @CHA Game Thread

  1. Would the Hornets take the home game against the Heat after losing the 1st game on the road? This win can potentially place the Hornets as the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference standing so it is an important game.
  2. Will JLin play well against the always-tough-Miami-trapping defense?

 

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s continue to shoot at least 8FG  & 4 FT attempts. Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens


Game link

  • Rzo Vlade

    1st

  • heart

    1st

  • Rzo Vlade

    lol nice try

  • blubell

    Not 1st 🙂

  • DX

    2nd, even there are two 1st. haha!

  • blubell

    Go JLin!

  • heart

    Are you 1st? I did type 1 first and it was held up. You can be I don’t mind.

  • DX

    This will be a close game! So hope Lin can step up!

  • real-dsb

    Let’s go Lin!

  • NONONO

    Al got suspended 5 games due to drug issues. it does not any good for his career. It might not hurt Hornets starting lineup much. But i thought he would be good to pare with Lin for PnR in 2nd unit.

  • sws94

    Lin has spoken. Kemba has spoken about Lin saying he’s always been comfortable with him. Lin said Cliff is learning more of his game and how best to pick spots to utilize him. He’ll play more at the 2 than 1 even though he produces more at the 1. He takes pressure off of Kemba when he’s in but still, Kemba will be playing the point and dominating the ball when they are on the floor together. Lin says his role may expand as Cliff learns more (paraphrasing). It’s a process. So let’s all be patient now. This is close to what I’ve been saying all-along in my uninformed observations. Not to say I’m right all of the time, I’m certainly not, but sometimes we have to detach from what we want for him vs. what he thinks is best available for him and to work within that. Let’s all keep believing in Lin and his decisions and judgments.

    Hoping for Lin to stay healthy enough to stay on the court every game and for him to enjoy himself on the court whether he is as productive as he could be in any given game or has a Hairsanity type of game. I support his team too. Go Lin, Go Hornets.

  • Rzo Vlade

    after I submit your comment pop up

  • yes, life is too short to worry about things.
    Next season will take care of itself.

    Lin’s smiling again playing with an unselfish team finding his role. If Hornets can finish in Top 4 of Eastern seed & advance deep in the playoff, more accolades will come. He’ll have plenty of options next season.

    For now, let’s go JLin & Hornets!

  • NONONO

    a W would make Hornets #2, a L could mean #8 statistically. It should be an exciting game. I wish Lin had a freedom to play his way for at least 20 mins.

  • CJSHYY

    #8 if L why?

    I think Lin will get more min (more than 20 min) from now on.

  • NONONO

    actually #9. #3 – #9 in east only separated by 1 game.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin is playing 52.4 percent of his minutes at shooting guard, according to Nylon Calculus’ Seth Partnow’s player production statistics, but he is averaging 13.0 points and 3.1 assists per 36 minutes there. Compare that to 20.2 points and 6.1 assists per 36 minutes at point guard — while leading the Hornets to scoring 14.9 points per 48 minutes more than their opponents.

  • CJSHYY
  • zxcvb

    The nicely timed SportingNews article may explain Lin’s increased PT over the past couple games (and hopefully going forward). I’m glad Lin politely called out Clifford for not quite living up to his promise yet. The money quote:

    He’s done that to some degree,” Lin said. “I know clearly what he expects from me. … But that’s why I feel like it’s a process. I feel like he’s going to continue to learn my game to see what I can do. Obviously watching film is one thing, but implementing it into a game, into a full situation is another thing.

    With Kemba as starter, he knows he’s not getting huge minutes, but he has to get 25-28 no matter what.

  • Check out how many 1st GSW has.
    I’m not sure if it’s ever been done before.

    We’re witnessing the future of NBA style

    https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/674715398743265280

  • blubell

    Wow. Even blocks? It would be even more insane if they keep it up throughout the season.

  • Further validation that they win with both Offense & Defense.

    Luke Walton for Coach of the Year! =)

  • Al will meet with CHA media, possibly to make public apology

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/674717507618406400

  • blubell

    Yes, Luke Walton deserves it… not Steve Kerr lol.

  • blubell

    That’s unfortunate. He seems like a good guy… just made a bad decision.

  • Luol Deng will come off the bench for the Heat tonight.
    Heat went 3-3 in his 6-game absence.

    This game will be tougher

    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/674720287070490624

  • cdblue10

    Let’s win this Hornets!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Bad for our 2nd unit?

  • David Kim

    Harry Johnson
    Harry Johnson – ‏@HarryJohnsonNC

    @At_The_Hive @DRomanoff37
    “Oh yeah, Al’s TOTALLY ready to play! Let’s go ahead and activate him!”

    LOL

  • 1mtoldman

    w/o any victories.

  • 1mtoldman

    high price weed.

  • possibly ..depends on how healthy he is

  • 1mtoldman

    this i have tried to point out previously and i feel is the most significant declining aspect here for lin more than minutes; (basketball reference i think actually has him even less minutes at point guard)–and the reason why regardless of geniality of the parties involved.:

    at least to date lin was in a much better situation both in houston and l.a. where at least he got to play point guard.

    as the numbers you point to here clearly reconfirm the overall pattern of more general declining production in charlotte to date (again to date) based on the way he is being used in charlotte as compared to previously in his career.

    and the last line you quote explains why (to date) the “no lin no win” factor has not been present for the hornets.

    its not just for lins best interests that he play point guard; its in the teams best interests.

  • Curry’s handle is very impressive & beautiful to watch

    https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/674359483615846405

  • 1mtoldman

    all depends on how other games play out but yes lot of tightly stacked teams in the east. so one win or loss can tip big.

  • 1mtoldman

    i would consider deng even if fully healthy at this point in a long nba career not a signfiicant factor.

  • Spot

    He should be one of Stomp’s drummer 😀
    https://youtu.be/tZ7aYQtIldg

  • Spot

    Hinkie on hot seat. Bryan Colangelo could replace him. Who knows… Maybe…

  • rookie75094

    One thing I do enjoy seeing is the haters at clutctzfan having daily meltdown over their rockettes.

  • 1mtoldman

    nba east teams ranked by point differential not winning %.

    boston
    indiana
    cleveland
    toronto
    charlotte
    miami
    orlando
    atlanta

  • CJSHYY

    What do they say right now?

  • 1mtoldman

    first time ever (or so its said) huge crowds show up b4 the game just to watch curry’s dribbling exhibition.

  • rookie75094

    They are trashing the hog bigtime.

  • Michael

    32nd! Go JLin!

  • blubell

    Ahhhhh, troll!

  • jakey

    Bad for AL but good for the charity

  • kjch

    It’s a pity he’s getting 0 wins to his name…

  • blubell

    All part of NBA Cares.

  • BOS 1st? That’s very interesting
    Wonder if their had an easy schedule

  • But he would make a history to be the 1st Assistant Coach who will win the Award =)

  • kjch

    If I was Al’s PR, I’d say he did it for charity 😉

  • kjch

    haha nice, you always see the positives 🙂

  • kauaiblue

    He he…

  • kauaiblue

    Hes so articulate… very impressive.

  • Pete Roces

    Unbelievable stats! Best team ever?

  • blubell

    Is that even possible? Make it happen, psalm 🙂

  • David Kim

    28-32mins

  • Guest

    About time for the rockets to resign Jeremy Lin to right the ship

  • Dorothy

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, are you kidding?

  • 1mtoldman

    i know this is not what yer addressing but what is significant to me about tonites game is the ease of schedule for miami in terms of home and away games.

    as you probably know home court advantage in the nba is more significant historically than in any other profesional sport, put simply the home team wins 60% of the time (more or less).

    miami has had an unusually skewed schedule to date with i beleive its something like 14 of its 19 games at home. no other team has had that luxury.

    it could be argued their sucess to date is thus highly distorted by this unusual and statistically deviant vis a vis the rest of the league home court advantage: one they will not have tonite.

  • 1mtoldman

    ship of fools that would be.

  • blubell

    Yeah, even if Morey, Harden, Beverly, etc leaves, Jeremy should not go near HOU. The fans and media are horrible.

  • Whitman Lam

    The Eastern Conference is tough! Almost every team except the 76ers and Nets can realistically make the playoffs.

  • CJSHYY

    NO NO NO.

  • orLinaryjoe

    That would be too smart for them. You give them way too much credit.

  • CJSHYY
  • cdblue10

    I love it!!!!!Go Lin just express yourself!!!!!

  • blubell

    OMG. Now I have to get use to this…
    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/674739487830843393

  • zxcvb

    Solidarity with Hawes. Samurai hair!

  • jakey

    Did yall see Lin’s new hair style?!?

  • 1mtoldman

    actually i beleive someone here (initially jokingly) predicted this deveolopment some time ago.

  • LinMad

    just wondering how did they find out AJ was smoking weed?

  • LinMad

    lol this surprised me.

  • TTNN

    exactly my response……

  • LinMad

    just saw it in the post below lol. I like it.

  • 1mtoldman

    see omg below etc.

  • CJSHYY

    What response?

  • Hope

    HahahaHAHA

  • LinMad

    its gonna make him move faster

  • TTNN

    OMG

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I’m only beginning to get used to JLin’s spiky hair and now this:-)
    Guess it will take me a long time before I like his hair again:-(

  • cdblue10

    Aerodynamic.lol

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. Can’t believe this… ???

  • TTNN

    totally not prepared…

  • LinMad
  • blubell

    Totally…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOLOL

  • CJSHYY

    I like spiky hair looks good but this one is ugly to me… OMG!!!

  • Rzo Vlade

    wow it fits nice style

  • NONONO

    Re: The Jeremy Lin Thread 2 / realgm/hornets
    Post#1008 » by Roy Tarpley » Today 9:32 pm
    I think the mods need to regulate some of the unwarranted jabs/snark against Lin fans. I’d say 90% of the Lin fans on this site have been team-oriented, and even some of the bizarre ones who harp about more playing time believe that this is not only to Lin’s benefit but the benefit of the team. I haven’t seen a single Lin fan who has argued for more playing time if it meant that the Hornets would play worse.

  • DX

    This hair style is just for warm up, right?

  • cdblue10

    Embraced it…he might color his hair with teal next time.

  • Lin Win

    Looks bad…like Hawes

  • NONONO

    That hair might distract and annoy his opponents more. LOL

  • LinMad

    all he needs to do now is shave the front a bit and grow the pony tail

    http://www.china-expats.com/Images/FilmTV/JetLi_Wushu.gif

  • cdblue10

    That’s our point…but until the team or some teammates would marginalized Lin,someone will talk with displeasure.

  • blubell

    So much gel… I’m gonna need some time to recover from this shock. LOL.

  • heart

    That and opponents won’t want to touch the grease. I’m laughing reading all the comments and yours makes me respond, LOL.

  • jakey

    Michael Jackson bad, R.I.P MJ

  • rabit1111

    here we go….hope for a good game

  • cdblue10

    Nice 3 Kemba

  • LinMad

    that dude to tall for Kemba to defend

  • rabit1111

    got to contain Green…he burned the bees last time

  • LinMad

    Batum gave up on D right there

  • Mr Chuckles

    I wonder if Lin doesn’t own a mirror. lol

  • NONONO

    Lakers mods are the worst. I commented “Kobe should retire” on the “what do you think about Kobe this season” thread. I got a warning. 2 weeks into the season, i just went back in and made a final comment, “once a Lakers hero, now a Lakers buster.” Did I just simply say the truth? I am glad I did not got back there again.

  • Mr Chuckles

    Harden-esque defense.

  • LinMad

    nice 3 by Batum

  • cdblue10

    Ba3um

  • LinMad

    WOW THAT STEAL BY KEMBA, in the air steal

  • rabit1111

    did u guys see that steal from kemba…wow

  • cdblue10

    Williams on the board

  • LinMad

    i dont like those running 3s by Batum. He jumps forward while shooting the 3. I know it makes the basket closer but you need really steady hands.

  • cdblue10

    Williams!!!!!!!!!

  • LinMad

    wow they look good so far. Ball movement is good.

  • rabit1111

    wow….what is up with Lin’s hair tonight????? hahahahaha

  • Vincent Lee

    Lin’s got quite a bit of cloth wrapped around his waist. Back acting up?

  • Lin Win

    Lol we killin em!

  • LinMad

    i just hope it makes him play better

  • rabit1111

    what happen to the super saiyan hair? i like that style better, what do u guys think?

  • John Focker

    Ran out of gel…?

  • LinMad

    if he wanted to, he can spike his hair up again.

  • NONONO

    Wait, Lin is really going to play with new hairstyle? Just watch – It might help his FG%!

  • Rzo Vlade

    i like this 1

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. Don’t like new one hope just for today not next 20 games.

  • John Focker

    Lower coefficient drag…

  • cdblue10

    This is one is more intimidating

  • LinMad

    it will increase his movement speed by 5%

  • Lin Win

    Decrease distraction by 50%

  • heart

    Lin is going to keep all of us and opponents off guard this season w/his ever-changing hairstyle. The final look is not here yet.

  • NONONO

    create better view

  • LinMad

    he probably tested his hair in a wind tunnel for aerodynamics

  • rabit1111

    what kinda defense was that

  • orLinaryjoe

    Lower center of gravity. Should help.

  • cdblue10

    Needs to sub

  • LinMad

    what if crowd laughs when they sub Lin in cause of his hair? LOL

  • rabit1111

    I’m sorry but no thug like…lol (not trying to be mean or anything just my opinion)

  • cdblue10

    Take PJ out

  • NONONO

    if it works, we might see him bald next game.

  • cdblue10

    Nice J Zzz

  • blubell
  • orLinaryjoe

    Bald is beautiful.

  • LinMad

    wow they are playing with great ball movement today

  • Lin Win

    Got hit when Green did the dunk. That’s why defense was wide open

  • LinMad

    They look like a Lin team now.

  • Lin Win

    That’s why whiteside will be a monster in a few years! He averages 2 blocks more than anyone in the league.

  • sws94

    Batum is the facilitator on this team.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! More Lin’s game now.

  • LinMad

    I think he helps Kemba and Lin but in the end it should be Kemba/Lin as the floor generals. Batum should not dribble much. He tends to get turnovers when he dribbles.

  • rabit1111

    so far so good…love the ball movement and fast decision. everyone is moving and need to keep this up.

  • LinMad

    ya the pace is faster than what they used to do. This is how Lin likes to play. It makes the game more exciting to watch too.

  • CJSHYY

    Good ball movement. More & more like what Lin wants now…LOL!

  • orLinaryjoe

    Better facilitator with starters.

  • Toby M

    Lin has a new hairdo? Looks slicked back?

  • NONONO

    It shows Hornets plays better without too much AL/Kemba .

  • cdblue10

    22222

  • Dorothy

    2222222222222

  • your son’s voltaire

    ACK! OMG LIN. IM NO LONGER A FAN!

  • NONONO

    NEW HAIR BETTER!

  • rookie75094

    Bye#..lol

  • Dorothy

    NOOOOOOOOOO

  • LinMad

    I like the hair

  • cdblue10

    That’s too fancy Nic

  • your son’s voltaire

    MAN BUN??!

  • blubell

    I hope this phase is very very short… How can I unsee this? LOL.

  • LinMad

    Nice try though Batum.

  • blubell
  • rabit1111

    hahahahhaha…..i laugh so hard when i saw that…..trying to be like hawes

  • your son’s voltaire

    lets hope he doesn’t start playing like Hawes

  • Lin Win

    Bet Lin wasn’t expecting a pass at all

  • NONONO

    Lin did not expect Batum think of him today.

  • cdblue10

    3443444444

  • Dorothy

    3333333333333333333333333

  • LinMad

    NICE!!! Batum is really looking for Lin now.

  • blubell

    I’m so confused it is a 3 or a 4?! LOL

  • NONONO

    New Hair 100% FG

  • cdblue10

    I’m just so excited …lol

  • rabit1111

    should have pulled Curry on that one instead a turnover

  • Lin Win

    DOn’t know what’s happening with Batum. Too many passes to Lin.

  • LinMad

    too much passing but whatever, good turn over.

  • blubell

    He wants easy assist?

  • LinMad

    i like it though. He’s playing unselfishly. And we’re winning haha

  • cdblue10

    Nice closer by Tank and a good team D on the 1st Q

  • NONONO

    Lin have nice hair LOL

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets really plays Lin’s team ball now. Good.

  • jeremy

    LOL at Lins hair i prolly like the one before

  • your son’s voltaire

    i blame the man bun

  • rabit1111

    now that’s unselfish basketball right there….i loving it……hope this will sustain..

  • heart

    Like the ball movement. Wish Lin just shoot that last 3. Seems like his shot is back. Thank God!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The hair, wow. Love that.

  • your son’s voltaire

    the super saiyan was bad a$$. the man bun on the other hand..

  • blubell
  • Lin Win

    He doesn’t start wanting easy assist this game and not the last 10 or so games.

  • LinMad

    Batum will have over 10 assists today. I’m pretty sure.

  • cdblue10

    He knows that he needs everyone to win a lot of games..No more hero ball.

  • Lin Win

    Batum wants those triple doubles lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You hurt my ears.

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Finally Lin’s team ball game.

  • Dorothy

    lol

  • cdblue10

    Nice Tank

  • blubell
  • wandertheglobe

    I was shocked at the hair at first, but I think I like it. It’s unique and it shows that Lin has personality, some punkishness in the style.

  • your son’s voltaire

    the 2nd unit is now “Bun Force One”

  • cdblue10

    Ball movements are awesome

  • LinMad

    the ball movement is crazy!!!!

  • jeremy

    hawes not very good

  • cdblue10

    Hawes why you’d missed that?

  • Alain Gervais

    HaWes!!!!

  • your son’s voltaire

    damnit. hawes messed up that bun-to-bun connection

  • cdblue10

    Lol

  • Lin Win

    Lin finally gets to play with his own unit

  • rabit1111

    good find by lin…unlucky by hawes

  • sws94

    Hawes blew a bunny.

  • blubell

    CHA: 13 FGM, 11 assists.

  • cdblue10

    Was it Lamb or Lin ang Lang?I’m confused..

  • rookie75094

    Miss layups

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin finding the right under the hoop but not finishing

  • rabit1111

    LOL….that just doesn’t sound right…

  • LinMad

    Lamb committed the foul.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    7 footer under basket go for layup? DUNK IT.

  • LinMad

    I dont think these bigs are good PnR players.

  • cdblue10

    Ok

  • your son’s voltaire

    IT AINT RIGHT!

  • blubell
  • rookie75094

    Rockettes up 11… booo

  • LinMad

    hawes laughing at his little pony? lol

  • cdblue10

    Try Hansbrough Cliff

  • LinMad

    dang bad foul

  • Chopz

    Beautiful basketball so far. Everyone’s passing the ball and i’ve never seen lin get the ball back this much.

  • heart

    Hawes needs to step up! Zeller turns his up. He can hit jumpers now. Thanks to Lin gave him first made jumper!

  • stam

    2 blown assists so far from what i’ve seen but miami defense is good.

  • LinMad

    they are double teaming Lin lol

  • Mr Chuckles

    Trapping Lin hard now.

  • cdblue10

    Nice Lay Lang

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Grreat job Lamb, forget Hawes.

  • NONONO

    Heat double Lin

  • LinMad

    yep, Lin is going to start passing a lot now.

  • Lin Win

    Hawes please sub yourself out

  • dlin2

    They are proud of killing linsanitu

  • cdblue10

    Swoosh for Williams

  • stam

    are refs being fair? just tuned in.

  • Chopz

    Starvin like marvin, 3.

  • KL

    Hornets are really trapping Lin
    EDIT: Heat are really trapping Lin

  • rookie75094

    Yes!!!!

  • LinMad

    this is looking good!!!

  • dlin2

    They shd bring another scorer

  • Chopz

    Swingin the ball, love it.

  • jeremy

    the heat you mean?

  • blubell
  • Rick Johnson

    Wish Hawes would dunk those under the basket.

  • rabit1111

    nice….

  • cdblue10

    Hahahaaha this is really a special team,nobody expects this only US if Lin is used well.

  • Alain Gervais

    you mean heat. Thats what they do. Very good PNR defense. Hornets finding ways to eat it up. Feeding on the double team.

  • Lin Win

    Everyone yoloing 3s now!

  • LinMad

    it’s good that they are trapping Lin, it leaves at least one person open. If they swing the ball around they will get a good look.

  • NONONO

    That is what Lin dreaming about – TEAM BALL.

  • Lin Win

    *could

  • rabit1111

    can he dunk…he has like a 2 inch vertical

  • LinMad

    Hornets today look like 1st team in Easter Conference.

  • Chopz

    Trap lin and leave our bigs to shoot wide open threes, pick ur poison.

  • Alain Gervais

    yup

  • sws94

    Lin handled that trap well and they found the open guy. Just didn’t convert.

  • stam

    Nice to see lin playing PG.

  • LinMad

    i think the time out is adjust this mistake now.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! This is big news…LOL!

  • heart

    Hope Hawes switch to dunk those easy baskets. He got blocked and missed some easy baskets from Lin’s passes.

  • cdblue10

    Pretty much

  • blubell
  • GoJLin!

    Lin willing to sacrifice for the team ball!

  • stam

    they just took lin out didn’t they?

  • cdblue10

    Lamb

  • rookie75094

    Yes

  • Mr Chuckles

    Yup and instantly the Hornets lose a point (on a review of MW’s foot-on-line 3).

  • jeremy

    Lin the only bench out smh

  • cdblue10

    Williams is killing it today making up for the last game

  • LinMad

    Marvin is killing it.

  • sws94

    Lin and Batum may come in later together.

  • Lin Win

    Marvin be like: TAKE MY 3??? EAT THIS 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rabit1111

    i think cliff will sub in back in for lamb in a couple mins

  • CJSHYY

    He will be back before 2nd Q end.

  • cdblue10

    Need to front him Z

  • cdblue10

    Lin coming in

  • LinMad

    interior d is bad now

  • rookie75094

    Jlin going back in

  • CJSHYY

    Lin is going in.

  • Great block by Zeller

  • LinMad

    goal tending!!

  • cdblue10

    Nice interior D

  • cdblue10

    Tylerrrrrr

  • Lin & Hansbrough time!

  • jeremy

    took forever for Lin to come in

  • zxcvb

    I like this new rotation pattern by Clifford.

  • LinMad

    TYLER AND LIN. SHIP IT!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Yeah, Lin Hansbrough

  • zxcvb

    No stoppage of play. Can’t sub after a goaltend. Has to be a foul or out of bounds.

  • Let’s get ready to RUMBLEEEE, Lin & Hansbrough!

  • jeremy

    Come on Lin dont let Lamb outplay you
    score 5 more before HT!

  • blubell
  • Rick Johnson

    He must be reading our forum.

  • NONONO

    Wade is too old and too slow.

  • cdblue10

    This is a regular scene now,they’re always like up 20 now every game

  • Chopz

    Linsbrough

  • rookie75094

    TyLin

  • LinMad

    Hornets will be #1 team in EC if they keep playing like this.

  • noob

    Hornets running them to the ground. Too much speed and depth

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I am sorry but Lin did not improve his defense, he’s just totally another person play great D.

  • zxcvb

    Miami is not that good. CHA could be 15-5 easy if they just played Lin down the stretch.

  • occupatio

    i missed 1Q. who was lin guarding in the game before he came out?

  • LinMad

    dunno their names lol

  • sws94

    Dragic, some Green.

  • cdblue10

    Just playing D nothing spectacular ,you know….lol

  • Rick Johnson

    Dragic I think

  • rookie75094

    Evrryone…hehe

  • occupatio

    lol. good answer

  • Chopz

    See when everybody swings the ball like that and all five guys constantly get to touch the ball, thats unselfish basketball and i don’t care who scores what. Teamball makes everybody look good.

  • LinMad

    they obviously try to shut down Lin by trapping him with 2 defenders. That’s good the opponent coach knows how good Lin is.

  • linfan

    Batum is 1 for 5, but with 8 assists

  • blubell

    its the only answer. lol

  • cdblue10

    Nice recognition for the mismatch

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin saw mismatch here batum.

  • LinMad

    he’s playing great

  • cdblue10

    Too much passing this time,reset to 14s

  • Thanks for the kick 🙂
    1.4 to 14 sec shot clock

  • blubell
  • cdblue10

    Hornets by 20000000000

  • rookie75094

    Up by 20….ht…yeah

  • LinMad

    good half for team. Did not see any PnR with Lin and Psycho T.

  • occupatio

    wasnt lin fouled on that 3 shot?

    eric collins just said lin ‘fell’, leading to transition layup

  • zxcvb

    Heh. Lin is a little too comfy shooting jumpers now. Should’ve attacked the rim for FTs.

  • jeremy

    He should have made at least one of those 3’s

  • Mr Chuckles

    if he is passing well, he’s playing great.

  • Alain Gervais

    wow i never thought this team could be this good

  • rookie75094

    Fell by himself

  • zxcvb

    Could have been a foul, but I’m not mad — no phantom fouls on defense from these refs.

  • LinMad

    ref didn’t call it a foul so it’s a fall lol

  • occupatio

    ok

  • cdblue10

    Batum will get his triple double this game book it.

  • Lin Win

    Can’t attack against Whiteside.

  • rabit1111

    agree…he needs to drive to the lane….

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin missed 2 affordable wide open 3s. Would be nice if hit one.

  • occupatio

    my feed is pixelated because my ballstream account expired.

  • sws94

    Batum: we tried to involve everybody on offense. Good. Everybody. Lin definitely got the ball a lot more with Kemba and Batum. Team looks terrific.

  • blubell

    Haha. Not renewing?

  • Lin Win

    It’s only foul on shooting motion. Lin was going down when he got hit.

  • cdblue10

    Have u seen that even Kemba is passing toLin now..This is how to do it!!!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin has higher shooting percentage in 4Q as always.

  • sws94

    Whiteside. Better to shoot jumpers.

  • zxcvb

    Sore back. Not worried. He always heats up over the season anyway.

  • LinMad

    team looks like a championship contender

  • noob

    totally unselfish basketball. You can’t complain about anybody this game so far

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • occupatio

    i tried to. but they shut down automatic renewals.

  • rookie75094

    And the result is hornets blowing out their opponents

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes this is the team we always hope for.

  • zxcvb

    That’s not true. Foul on 3s is usually from going down — must give the players room to land.

  • blubell
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I am smiling.

  • occupatio

    lol

  • LinMad

    tbh, if team plays like this every game, I don’t even care what results Lin gets.

  • blubell

    yeah, their billing system is messed up right now.

  • zxcvb

    Lin can get Hassan in foul trouble. He’s got moves if the refs don’t cheat him.

  • LOL Sokka from the Avatar series!

  • Briiick

    I am glad Hornets are playing toward Lin ball more recently, hope they keep doing this. This resembles the HUGE winning stretch of Rox when Lin first returned to MSG. But we all know after that professional jealousy eventually caught up and ruined it.

  • spiderman

    Would have occurred much sooner, if Clifford wasn’t so slow

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    LMAO! That’s fast.

  • Rick Johnson

    Celtics need to beat the Bulls. Bull’s 54 Celtics 51 in the 2nd

  • cdblue10

    Yup

  • KL

    Hornets offense adjusted and got Lin 2 open threes. Pity he missed but I believe his long range shooting will get better sooner or later.

  • Chopz

    Thats what i said below. Pass the rock and u are being unselfish, so who cares who scores. Team wins.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Hornets can beat Heat today.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Too bad NBA not allow earrings.

  • LinMad

    i want to see more back cuts since his 3s aren’t there yet. Get easy 2s instead.

  • CJSHYY

    No big deal. His shooting is not too bad now.

  • heart

    Yep. The ball movement and passing gets everyone involved.

  • blubell

    Everyone who played scored except PJ… didn’t even attempt one.

  • LinMad

    i’m positive they will.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He’s unselfish too.

  • JJ Hui

    Go to http://www.ifeed2all.eu and then click basketball and then click Channel 1, it is so crystal clear. But you have to cross out those junk at least 10 times before you can reach your destination Chanels selection, lol!

  • Chopz

    Everybody on this forum is happy right now. All those naysayers who say we only want lin to do well are wrong, we want everyone to do well, just involve our favorite player lin thats all.

  • sws94

    Heat will make adjustments. They are going to clamp down on Batum and try to make Kemba turn into old Kemba. Offensively they are going to attack, try to draw fouls. They may also clamp down on Lin when he’s in.

  • LinMad

    not just Lin but before I also felt Lamb was marginalized too. I’m happy Tyler gets some time on the floor too. Cause I know Tyler and Lin can connect.

  • cdblue10

    Best post of the nite

  • CJSHYY

    Heat didn’t expect Hornets new O game plan – team ball. But I think they sure will make some adjustments.

  • LinMad

    they already tried to clamp down on Lin by double teaming him. I think next half they will attack the basket ball like you said cause they know our interior D isn’t that good in the starting unit. I think Cliff will have to play Lin more in the 2nd just to help with D.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    As long as ball moment, things won’t change.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Holding the Heat under 20 each Q, Charlotte is playing superb defense. The shots start to fall with good defense.

  • blubell

    Jeremy must be trending right now… lol
    https://twitter.com/sportingnews/status/674757903505629184

  • 1mtoldman

    i was going 2 say that but couldn’t get logged in: actually what i was going to say was “an astute and important observation”.

    but yers is better.

  • LinMad

    yep, he’s #3 on nba pulse behind Kobe and Lebron

    http://www.nba.com/pulse/

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Batum is a smart player, his shots are not falling so he gets the assists. Stop forcing.

  • 1mtoldman

    pic.twitter.com/paKyA6Qs7D

    IMPORTANT UPDATE: Jeremy Lin has changed his hair from the mohawk to whatever this is.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Awesome awesome hair.

  • CJSHYY

    I think he was assigned to AS more in 1st half but in 2nd half maybe will score more.

  • LinMad

    yep that’s what he should have done in other games where he shot 3 for 16

  • cdblue10

    PJ 333333

  • Chopz

    Got my fingers crossed for second half, continue to pass, or our lead will not last.

  • LinMad

    PJ scored!

  • LAJane

    Couldn’t get to the game thread until just now. Always check in at NBA.com for score so I’ll know what mood I’ll find here. CHA up by 20?!!! Checking the thread now, looks like [at least for tonight :)] even Kemba’s meshing a bit with Jeremy and they’ve been swinging the ball well. My chores don’t seem to work as well as Michael’s sleeping, but I’ll keep this up if there’s any chance for continued team play. Go Lin!

  • cdblue10

    Pjjjjjj 33334 sir!!!

  • rookie75094

    Pj!!!

  • LinMad

    PJ 66666666

  • cdblue10

    They’re making it as a shootout

  • blubell

    Yay, good for him.

  • spiderman

    a car can’t run without the engine

  • LinMad

    trading 3s

  • Lin Win

    Heat getting extinguished !

  • grover chang

    Quarter way through season not that bad.

  • LinMad

    great steal by Kemba

  • Briiick

    Great great hair.

  • GoJLin!

    Walker 3 ST!

  • cdblue10

    Good t/o Coach

  • LinMad

    ya they are killing us inside

  • rookie75094

    And that is a tragedy of the Goran tragic proportion

  • Desperately Seeking Hansbrough

  • spiderman

    need hansbrough

  • Briiick

    Calling bench force.

  • LinMad

    Cliff mad at Zeller for not being in right spot

  • blubell
  • rookie75094

    I just notice tragic is wearing his idol number…lol

  • spiderman

    dragic is tragic lol

  • cdblue10

    Time for the bench

  • rookie75094

    Pun intended

  • LinMad

    Zeller got elbowed on the nose

  • Chopz

    “Tragic”, thats messed up. Hehehe

  • GoJLin!

    KW played good tonight, 7-11 with 15pts/4asts & 3 ST.

  • Chopz

    Nice no look batum

  • John Focker

    Batum better PG than Kemba, 10 asts already!

  • cdblue10

    Batum for 3ple double

  • LinMad

    told u batum would get 10 assists today

  • Steppen03

    Let’s Go, Wizards!!! Put this one away in Washington.
    Let’s Gooo, HORNETS =)

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Total domination!

  • John Focker

    Batum playing very selfless, 8reb 10ast, only 8pts (2-7).

  • NONONO

    I think Lin is coaching

  • Chopz

    Whiteside didn’t just travel, he took a vacation.

  • GoJLin!

    Yes also with 9R & 8pts! probably going to hit triple double!

  • blubell
  • Lin Win

    Batum on NO PASS mode now ! NEeds his triple double

  • blubell

    He’s always coaching

  • CJSHYY

    He will get in.

  • anyone else having trouble with BallStream?

  • blubell
  • Briiick

    Yeah. Lin’s magic is contagious, will dissipate one year after Lin leaves.

  • John Focker

    Kemba/Batum passing tonight.

  • LAJane

    Well…good way to get your earlobe ripped in half the way these guys slam into each other.

  • cdblue10

    Game over

  • Is that JLin checking in?

  • NONONO

    He was actually standing alone on front of bench and waving his hand.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A bucket for Batum!

  • rookie75094

    Even cliff is learning from Jlin

  • LinMad

    yeps

  • he looked taller in my blurry free stream lol

  • CJSHYY

    He will & gets his tri double today.

  • NONONO

    Forget about PG, Hornets hires Lin as assistant coach or head coach for 76ers after 12/15.

  • John Focker

    Al out blessing in disguise, more Kaminsky and hopefully Tyler gets time.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He gave up the ball to Zeller for a dunk.

  • rookie75094

    Psalm. ..contact lp …advertising in exchange for free lp

  • cdblue10

    Someone needs to tell Nic that he needs to shoot the ball

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Heat is still under 20 for the Q

  • blubell
  • Lin Win

    Damn Lin missed that one too

  • Chopz

    Beautiful defense by hornets, me likey.

  • LinMad

    I think Lin wants to give batum his last shot so he can get the triple double already

  • LinMad

    overpassing now lol

  • Lin Win

    Lin was suppose to shoot when he got a screen from hawes

  • Chopz

    I’ll take overpassing rather than underpassing anytime.

  • blubell

    Walker: 5 steals.

  • occupatio

    what were lin’s two shots that he made? what kind of shots?

  • cdblue10

    Let’s go to the playoffs

  • JoeTeam

    Alright, any Lin action coming up when KW sits? He’s been quiet, I jus turned it on.

  • rookie75094

    1midrange,1 3

  • jeremy

    Overpassing is never good

  • LinMad

    Here’s Lin’s chance to get his buckets.

  • occupatio

    thx

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    For 3Qs the Heat scored under 20 each.

  • rabit1111

    not really…if this keeps up, he’s going to sit soon….unless he comes out firing in the beginning of 4th.

  • LinMad

    defense is good + ball movement = top team

  • CJSHYY

    It’s easy there is 4Q. He can make 2 pts for his tri-double.

  • Lin Win

    East sleeping on the Hornets. Gonna get stung for it!

  • occupatio

    why is everyone passing so much? did cliff say something to them?

  • rabit1111

    that’s a good start for ball movement..

  • blubell
  • John Focker

    Al is out, no need to play low-post grinding game.

  • KL

    Dragic is quite lost.

  • LinMad

    ya Hornets are the underdog becoming the top dog

  • John Focker

    Overrated and exposed.

  • NONONO

    Lin need to attack rim.

  • GoJLin!

    Batum got 11R/11A/1ST/1BS with 8 pts and +20; he need 2 more pts; go, Batum, you doing a good job to pass to LIN!

  • CJSHYY

    Why Kemba is still up?

  • KL

    Agreed

  • Lin Win

    Ranked us 2nd to last in the East by BR. What a joke!

  • Lin Win

    SEATTLE!

  • Briiick

    Not needed in garbage time.

  • blubell

    Walker out Batum in

  • LinMad

    too much over passing now. LOL

  • thanks My Ballstream just had a hiccup

  • Lin alley-oop to Batum!

  • cdblue10

    Lin to Batum

  • blubell
  • LinMad

    WOIW!!

  • Lin Win

    Lin needs to shoot like Lamb! Yolo it!

  • Lin Win

    CLifford just yelled again! Shoot the ball!

  • jeremy

    Come on Lin why you do this to your self lol

  • Chopz

    Did batum reach triple double from lins pass? Nice.

  • KL

    Wow!!!

  • occupatio

    did lin try to pass on that layup or was he blocked?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin helps Batum with his triple double by an Alley OOOOOO dunk
    That is style.

  • Lin Win

    Did Lin block that shot?

  • GoJLin!

    Great! Battum triple double & Lin got AST!

  • rookie75094

    Yes..the Batum leave the game. ..lol

  • LinMad

    the overpassing started with Lamb than to Frank then to Lin lol

  • zxcvb

    Blocked.

  • JoeTeam

    Did Lin block that before the Batum ally oop?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A stylish assist to triple double and a 30 points lead.

  • occupatio

    ok. its like i am watching legos on the screen

  • Alain Gervais

    yes

  • Alain Gervais

    yup

  • Lin Win

    Frank didn’t even pass or look at Lin.

  • Batum needs to give early Christmas gift for that stylish 3D

  • Phillycheese

    Ally oop

  • zxcvb

    Too big a deficit, Clifford might bring in the 3rd stringers soon.

    I don’t care too much because this just proved that Clifford’s new sub pattern for Lin (on pace for 25-28mpg) is the right move. Points will come over time with this new rotation.

  • LW

    Nice! Triple double in style! Thanks to Lin.

  • Phillycheese

    Pace too slow. Wade is also ball dominant.

  • blubell

    Batum is out. GG 🙂

  • kauaiblue

    Hea in garbage time?

  • occupatio

    OMG i just noticed lin’s hair. LOL. what is that

  • zxcvb

    Lin got his back! If only other guys would help Lin like he helps others.

  • LinMad

    2 buckets?

  • 1.7 left in shot clock. @JLin7 drew foul in 0.3 sec

    Just need to make FTs, plzzzz

  • rookie75094

    Hit your ft Jlin!!!!

  • JoeTeam

    some kind of cartoon character.

  • blubell

    missed both FT? 🙁

  • Lin Win

    Lin should be passing like Batum. Not the same run into the paint kick out or pass at baseline only to get it passed back out !
    I haven’t seen a lot of Lin good passes.

  • LinMad

    awww

  • zxcvb

    WTF Lin? 0-2 Fts. Might be the back.

  • occupatio

    he looks like a coolie. like a 19th c. chinese railroad worker.

  • jeremy

    wow Lin he really cant score now

  • maybe need some hair adjustment time 🙁

  • JoeTeam

    I was thinking that or some bad early 60s movie out of HK.

  • Lin Win

    Lin hasn’t even hit a pair of FTs in ages. IF he can’t even make FTs how does he expect the coach to let him shoot 3s?

  • kauaiblue

    Good, hes out..

  • rookie75094

    Lin out

  • cdblue10

    Good game for Hornets

  • zxcvb

    Must be the sore back. Game is over. No need to play with the scrubs.

  • occupatio

    haha

  • Dan Cohen

    that’s why coach pull him out.. someting is obviously wrong or off.. maybe off night.

  • JoeTeam

    ok, no all done. V inefficient game I didn’t see it. only 5 shots. Hmmm …

  • Chopz

    Yup, we don’t want injuries. See what happened to klay thompson yesterday with sprained ankle.

  • Briiick

    It is garbage time in the second half. There is no need to over analyze everything.

  • Lin Win

    You mean off month? He’s been shooting like a scrub for so many games.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    After beating the Heat like this, Charlotte ought to lead the conference in time to come.

  • JoeTeam

    What happened to Lin’s back? I hadn’t read.

  • LinMad

    whatever, Lin would have been out anyways. If he made those FTs, would have been 7 points.

  • LinMad

    I just hope this team plays more like this in future games.

  • jeremy

    Only scored in double digits once in the last 8 games wow
    Lin isnt what he used to be
    He’s been getting the real back up stats
    looking at his stats of past 10 games
    It’s looking like a very average back up pg

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Take Lin out. Next. This game is over.

  • zxcvb

    Just minor soreness for the past week or so. Even flew in his acupuncturist a couple days ago.

  • LinMad

    well the only games he’s really had the chance was like 2 games out the 8. The rest he shot only like 4-6 times per game.

  • DX

    Agreed, Lin’s D is improved a lot. But O is off.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    NBA pulse shows Kobe is number 1. I bet at least half is negative like selfish SOB.

  • JoeTeam

    Ah …

  • jeremy

    O is what matters the most
    He keeps this up he will never be an NBA starter again probably not even a 6th man

  • spiderman

    still do wonder if Lin misses intentionally sometimes. Like game is in the bag, so why bother

  • jeremy

    Well still doesnt change the fact that his stats are awful

  • Lin Win

    Pretty disappointed in Lin’s performance.
    20mins 5pts 2ast 1blk.
    2 missed FTs.
    2 missed wide open 3s.

    He’s not generating good offense to let him team mates get easy buckets.

    Lin better start working on his shooting because no coach will let him on the floor when he can’t shoot or get easy buckets for his team mates.

    Another surprising blowout against the Heat.
    Credits to Kemba Batum and Marvin doing most of the work this game.

  • zxcvb

    It’s early. Relax. Lin’s sub pattern has changed now and points will come over time.

    30pt destruction of Miami is not a good gauge.

  • LinMad

    ya, either he stays on this team or he works on getting his more.

  • LinMad

    This unit looks pretty bad. Good thing they get time to play.

  • jeremy

    He is no longer an offensive threat

  • LinJa

    Lin didn’t look like himself

  • LinMad

    put up the percentages man. If he made all his shots then he’d have 13 pts but no one shoots 100%
    40% FG and 33% 3PT 0% FT

    Even if he played great he’d be under 10 points.

  • sws94

    He could have had a lot of assists. Shots weren’t converted. At least 6. He missed a few shots, got one blocked. I thought he did well in the flow of the offense and didn’t allow Dragic to go off. He did his job. And he got that beautiful lob highlight to Batum for B’s triple double.

  • jeremy

    Thats the thing he wont
    hes content as long as team wins
    he doesnt care about his stats
    thats why hes where he is now
    a very average back up even though he has the potential to be more

  • blubell
  • jeremy

    last 10 games..a pretty good measure imo

  • sws94

    Yeah, right. Keep watching this season. We’ll see.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Nice guy never kick a dead horse.

  • Lin Win

    40% and 33% 3ptfg isn’t good.
    Lin shoots way better than this.

  • rookie75094

    Next goal…50% off papa john pizza…hehe

  • Dan Cohen

    tonight is worst.. how can you miss 2 ft.

  • LinMad

    i know but it’s not 26% like Batum the other day. It’s below his average but not that much lower. He’s just too focused on defending. He needs to shoot more cause he’s losing his shooting form.

  • zxcvb

    Love Lin’s new sub pattern — consistent for 3 straight games, make or miss. Points will come over time and non-30pt blowouts! Lin also has a sore back nagging him.

    He looks confident, playing controlled w/ low TOs, teammates passing him the ball. Just needs more of this current treatment by Clifford and if they keep WINNING BIG like this, he’ll get it. Recent article was very telling/encouraging.

  • Chopz

    Called up the homies and I’m askin y’all
    Which park, are y’all playin basketball?
    Get me on the court and I’m trouble
    Last week messed around and got a triple double.

    Nic batum, today was a good day.

  • Lin Win

    Batum makes up his shooting with assist and rebounds.
    Batum as of right now is playing like what Lin is suppose to be.
    Lin won’t get a starting role if he plays like this.

  • LinMad

    he won’t even if he plays well.

  • Lin Win

    Can’t say that for sure

  • jeremy

    Lin played really well this game but thats as a very average back up PG
    I think he can be a top 30 PG in this league and start somewhere
    But he is just far from it right now
    Team is winning so Lin’s role isn’t gonna change
    Whatever Clifford is doing is working very well for them so cant really blame him for not featuring Lin more
    Lin is just not an offensive threat anymore
    He is playing the role PJ hairston is playing

  • blaznazn22

    i noticed that his free throws has been especially bad this season…crap free throw = crap jump shots = crap 3points. Simple, his shooting is obviously off for some reason. The only good shots he has is the layup…and nobody ever misses a layup, its just not possible.

  • Dan Cohen

    if he doesn’t hit over AT LEAST 10 consitently for anymore games.. he will NOT be playing more minutes.

  • KL

    Overall I am happy with Lin’s game tonight. Good passing and good defense. I think the shooting slump needs just one good game to get fixed.

  • yes, 9-10FGAs in the previous 2 games.
    It’s too bad he only had 5 FGAs in this blowout.

    Those 2 missed FTs are very unusual. Stiffened back? I hope not

  • spiderman

    Lin did well. He only cares about winning (and winning big they did).
    He seems to have thrown stats out the window. And sometimes he seems to intentionally miss free throws

  • LinMad

    seeing 3rd string guards play…if Lin leaves this team…omg they would not have a chance.

  • zxcvb

    Not really. New sub pattern only started for 3 games — with 2 blowouts!

    Last game against DET? 13p/4a/3r/2s in just 26mpg.

  • NONONO

    Lin needs his mohawk back.

  • jeremy

    They are winning without Lin being featured in the offence

  • zxcvb

    He’ll get stats if they keep playing like this. Again, this treatment of Lin has only lasted THREE games.

    CHA is 3-0 with 2 blowout wins w/ this Lin usage. He was also 13p/4a/3r/2s in just 26m last game!

  • LinMad

    18 points lead now…lol. 4 minutes left. Maybe need to bring in other players now.

  • Lin Win

    He’s either changing his shooting form or he’s getting too nervous when he shoots. When you miss both FTs it’s pretty disgraceful for a point guard.

  • jeremy

    Not neccessarily
    Lin plays good defence but they dont need his offence

  • CJSHYY

    He didn’t have shooting slump just didn’t take enough shots. Good ball movement from the team.

  • occupatio

    i rushed home to watch the game, and before i know it, its garbage time and lin is out. boooo!

  • zxcvb

    ??? Last game against DET: 13p/4a/3r/2s in just 26mpg.

    Give it more than a 3-game sample size w/ 2 blowouts!

  • LinMad

    they need his defense and his spreading the floor. Also playmaking and scoring. When Batum can’t make a bucket, they need Lin.

  • rookie75094

    Pizza!!!

  • LinMad

    wow 15 points game now…omg

  • yeah, blowout is not good for Lin’s min *sigh*
    But a Win is a Win

  • LinMad

    phew! that 3

  • jeremy

    Last 10 games?
    5
    13
    9
    5
    7
    7
    5
    14
    9
    13

    thats horrible

  • DX

    Yes, it’s true. Lin isn’t the 6th man now.

  • zxcvb

    Not awful for a 23mpg backup. Compare them to Dragic who’s getting major minutes! Lin is almost matching his production. Now Dragic has awful stats.

  • spiderman

    2 more 3’s and they’ll make it a game

  • occupatio

    so when did lin come in during 1Q? 5 min mark?

  • jeremy

    Yah as a back up

  • zxcvb

    Again: New sub pattern only started for 3 games (CHI, DET, MIA) — with 2 blowouts!

  • KL

    He was just playing in the flow of the game. I agree that he did not take many shots this game so may not be fair to say it was a shooting slump. But over the whole season, his 3p% and FG% is still not where he is capable of reaching.

  • LinMad

    4 min

  • KL

    Kemba and Nic were shooting well so I think Lin was just playing in the flow of the game. No need to worry about the offence. The drives and mid range are still there. 3 point and FT will get back.

  • occupatio

    ok not bad.

  • Rick Johnson

    Celtics leading the Bulls by 10 with 6 minutes left. Bull’s loss means 2nd place for the Hornet’s

  • jeremy

    If Lin keeps putting up single digit games he wont be able to help spread the floor anymore
    gotta make shots

  • sws94

    Hansbrough really doesn’t look that great out there.

  • jeremy

    It’s not that
    he doesnt even look for his

  • LinMad

    he’s better at PG position. he’s playing 50% SG and 50% PG. It’s kind of confusing for him. He needs to adapt quickly.

  • occupatio

    his fouling rate is impressive. LOL
    no doubt thats why cliff has been reluctant to play him.
    and i dont think pyscho can really change that part of his game, at least not by much.

  • blaznazn22

    yeah..im not sure whats going on with that, but if he perfects his free throws, ie 90% and higher on a consistent basis, I think all his other shooting percentages will improve as well. He needs to go to the gym and just throw 1000 free throws every day and perfect his form.

  • jeremy

    5 13 9 still not good
    new sub pattern doesnt have much to do with it
    no need to make excuses for his subpar offensive game

  • LinMad

    so after this win, where are in the conference standings?

  • zxcvb

    No, you’re misunderstanding completely. Please read carefully…

    I’m saying his new sub pattern will HELP him. “Unfortunately,” Hornets have won by 20 and 30 the past two games, so he’s not really needed for extra minutes or shots (Lin’s best quarter is always the 4th). Also, he has a sore back nagging him.

    He’s playing well, just not getting stats yet because 2 blowouts and sore back. And a 3-game sample size under this new, GOOD sub pattern. And he played well last game.

  • MJ joked around with JLin =)

  • rookie75094

    MJ chatted and laugh with jlin

  • sws94

    Did you see that exchange with MJ and Lin? Hope someone makes a gif of it.

  • LinMad

    Marvin and Lin standing up together cheering the team.

  • linfan

    Probably asked what happened to his hair.

  • I wonder what MJ said to JLin, “Gotta love the hair :)”

  • LinMad

    LOL MJ clowned Lin’s hair I think. HAHAHHA

  • yeah, good to see MJ ribbing JLin

  • Joe what do you know

    OMG. MJ and Lin having a good laugh together after the game. That was GOLD!!

  • jeremy

    He should look for his own this is his contract year as well

  • LinMad

    screw his stats this game, that’s all that matters right there. And the team win.

  • jeremy

    Agreed lol

  • Singapore BB Fan

    about his new hairdo

  • Chopz

    LinMad, you are LinHappy : )

  • rookie75094

    Wiz down by 2…let’s go beat the rockettes

  • Joe what do you know

    Yeah man. Not that his stats isn’t important. But when the real GOAT share a moment with you, that means heaps!!

  • CJSHYY

    I think they finally played his team ball today. It’s from Lin’s idea that’s why….

  • zxcvb

    I agree! And he WILL if they keep using him like this. Just give him time to heal his back and more games that aren’t 20-30pt blowouts. Even in the DET blowout, he shot 10 times in just 26m.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    4 teams tied for 2nd place in the conference.

  • jeremy

    Does anyone have the clip of MJ messing with Lin!?

  • even more the owner GOAT =)

  • LinMad

    next couple of games should be easy teams

  • LinMad

    We are 2nd in EC now. What a turnaround compared to last season

  • Guest

    Lin took too many falls in past games. He mght be hurting.

  • cool!!!

  • zxcvb

    Imagine if Cliff let Lin play more minutes in the 2 ATL losses and the CLE loss!

    They’d be in first with AT LEAST 2 more wins.

  • LinMad

    i liked what I saw out of the players today. Batum, Kemba is playing more selflessly. And Lin still got his chance.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    At worst tied for 2nd place.

  • jeremy

    Forget the stat talk it doesnt matter
    MJ had a moment with Lin! thats all that matters in this game

  • LinMad

    I have LP but I don’t know how to record that moment

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I believe this Hornets team can kill the Hawks.

  • LinMad

    so far the trend of playing Lin more minutes is working. Also it is making players we normally don’t see do well actually do well. Like MW, Hawes, etc.

  • LinMad

    Hornets is a sleeper. EC slept on them. Even the media/analysts slept on them.

  • jeremy

    Nah Hawks bigs are too good for them

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Hornets is currently only 1 game behind Cavaliers, the leader in the Eastern Conference.

  • Had they let JLin finish the Cavs game, they’ll be #1 seed now

    But hope they learned their lesson.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I hope ABC, ESPN, TNT and NBAtv now consider airing the Hornets’ games.

  • Joe what do you know

    Can you blame them? Even majority of Hornets fans slept on this team…

  • LinMad

    ya they thought they wouldnt make playoffs without MKG. I told them we will still be top 4.

  • Joe what do you know

    I really do believe if Lin is used correctly, Hornets will have a good chance at cracking 50 wins…

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Hornets 8-2 the last 10 games. 2 loses to NBA final teams Cavs and GS.

  • sws94

    What’s his FT percentage?

  • LinMad

    thing is this team has so many shooters. Even the bigs are shooters. I think Cliff wants Lin to be the defense guy and play maker first before shooting.

  • golfhacker

    Hornets have 4th best record in entire NBA. Wow!

  • blaznazn22

    you guys are going crazy….getting a little ahead of yourselves.. Yeah the hornets are doing better than anyone expected, but the reason is because they played a ton of home games this season. If all the home games are done early in the season then they will tire out later with all the consecutive road games in the second half. Its only 20 games and they played like 13 at home and only 7 on the road so far.

  • LinMad

    i said they would be top 4 this season. Before preseason began. i also predicted Lakers would only have 5 wins this season and it looks that way.

  • sws94

    I’m sorry you can’t feel good after this game. Ball went to him, and he played in a team concept. There’s an article interviewing Lin about his role on this team. I suggest you read what Lin himself has to say.

  • LinMad

    I disagree, they played a lot of away games too early season.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Isn’t that how fans supposed to react, winning and losing? Don’t make a big deal.

  • CJSHYY

    They played well not bc home game bc Lin’s team ball.

  • sws94

    I think Cliff wants to contribute overall what it takes for wins. If it is D some nights, if it is being the guy getting assists while Nic is out, if it is the guy throwing lobs in the open court, or drawing fouls and getting to the line in the 4th. It’s what the game calls for, not playing for his own stats which Lin doesn’t do anyway.

  • blaznazn22

    check out the schedule, there will be 4 consecutive away games coming up in january, february, march and april. Its heavy loaded on the back end of the season. I don’t know if the hornets decided the schedule or someone else, but this will hurt them for sure.

  • Briiick

    I think they are more like a transient wonder, and will disappear after Lin leaves next season.

  • LinMad

    I counted 12 home games vs 8 road games this season so far. I know they do worse in road games but I honestly believe that the road games we lost we could have won if we played more like this. Where Lin actually got to play his style. We could have been a 15 wins team right now.

    If they continue to play like this, I think we will see more wins than we normally saw early season. And it looks like the team is actually allowing Lin to play over 17 minutes a game now.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Don’t observe the website rule. This is the borderline of labeling. This is the first warning!

  • sws94

    There is no 6th man. And Lin is the closest thing to one. Lin and Lamb are the sixth men types but on Charlotte, there really isn’t a 6th man.

  • spiderman

    it’s okay to celebrate. Team is playing well

  • khomphuong2

    Hornets fans aprroved (not that some of us care)

    Jeremy Lin's ponytail is 1-0 on the season…just saying #keepit #statsthatmatter— Queen City Hoops (@QCHblog) December 10, 2015

  • LAJane

    He would never do that.

    Apart from that, I think it’s his back.

  • LAJane

    He’s been shooting like a guy with a sore back.

  • sws94

    His back isn’t terrible, but you could see it’s not right and affecting his game in some ways.

  • james brown

    Cliff wants Batum to be the option#1 in offense thats why he placed PJ in the line up so he will shy away with hard defense. Cliff knew that good defense will waste the energy of one player to the detriment of his offense. He let KW plays with minimal defense so he can make his shots falling too..Now JLIN can only play IF his defense is excellent and to make it happen, Jlin has to give away his energy on offense and put it all in defense.

    That’s how cliff use JLIn capabilities with the team who has 2 offensive players already.

    see the pattern of play and not having lin be the real PG inside the court. Its always Lin with Batum or Lin with walker tp make sure that it will check-out lin’s offensive capabilities.

  • LinMad

    Do you guys really want Lin to leave the Hornets now? I mean it looks like he’s getting his chance again to play, even though it’s more defense than offense as long as Hornets make the playoffs as top 4 team, would you like him to sign again next year or find a different team? I honestly am tired of seeing Lin moving from team to team so if the conditions are right in Charlotte, I would say yes, stay with them forever.

    Ofc, if he’s marginalized again later down the season, I’d say go to a different team.

  • blaznazn22

    its 21 games played so far this season, 13 played at home with a 10 wins 3 loses record, 8 games played away with a 3 wins 5 losses record.

  • blaznazn22

    ?? sorry what?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    After today, Hornets may be tied with Raptors for the 2nd place of Eastern Conference.

  • Briiick

    Never say never, and enjoy the winning streak while it lasts.

  • LinMad

    they are 2nd. No ties.

  • jakey

    +1 for ABC since I don’t have cable lol

  • blaznazn22

    its part of the reason, but a big reason also because the schedule has been good to them so far. If they keep playing team ball in road games i think they will rise to the top of the east.

  • LinMad

    ya those road games I think we could have won more if they played Lin ball. (what we saw today)

  • LinMad

    The only bad thing I saw today was the over passing. Somehow it always ended in Lin’s hands lol. These players who are opened need to take the shot, they just kept passing and it ended in Lin’s hands.

  • Charlie S

    Had the Hornets beaten the Cavs… they would be in 1st =O

  • CJSHYY

    I think bc they finally played Lin’s team ball, he just showed how unselfish he’s… I really think he needs to take more shots even they played his team ball theory finally. I guess Lin will make adjustment…

  • JJ Hui

    Enjoy the win and why speculating the future that is unknow?

  • LinMad

    I think he hasn’t been taking a lot shots in the pass 8 games so it’s like really hard to change now. He needs the coach to draw him plays more so he can get the feeling back. IMO, he’s 100% defense now and like 50% offense.

  • Joe what do you know

    It doesn’t really matter. We are just his fans. He will not stay or leave a team for us. And rightfully so because it’s his decision and future. We can only support each and every moves he does….

  • james brown

    he likes charlotte as his game actions dictates. But JLIN promised to himself that he will find him a team that will used him to juice out and max his potential. That doesn’t mean Jlin doesn’t want anymore to score points because in all honesty, Lin knew that scoring win games also. So if Hornets offered him something in the table and a good one at that, he might consider it and stay.

    factors: USAGE + ROLE + PT + money.

    I placed money as the last factor because money for Jlin is less of a hindrance in considering players contract.

  • LinMad

    ya they need to set Lin up for success cause it will draw in more money for Hornets too. Everyone wins. Hornets FO wins, players wins, team/coach wins.

  • blaznazn22

    his career ft% has been fluctuating around 80%. Currently its around 77%, lowest its been since his golden state warriors days of 76.0%. At houston he was shooting 78% ft first season, and 82% ft second season. At la he was shooting 79% ft but he also had highest 3point shooting in his history at 37%. Currently at houston hes shooting around 77% FT and 29.8% 3 point. Pretty ugly. When you compare steph curry, his ft shooting has been 90% throughout his entire career on average and his 3pt shooting at 44.2% career. So maybe there is some correlation between the two? Players who are better free throw shooters generally have better 3point shooting.

  • CJSHYY

    In fact, he could have more chance to take more shots but he just passed it…

  • james brown

    right on cue..

    cliff made some plays for Lamb already even when Batum is in, while cliff make some cue plays for Jlin (esp during the OT win) when necessary. it seems that Lamb need to be cued always because he lacks certain awareness. while Lin can make shots for himself.

    A play design for Jeremy must also be practiced for it to be perfect.

  • Martin Chong

    I want to see as well, please share!

  • LinMad

    Lin didn’t have a bad game for a $2M player

    Dragic $18M 24 mins 2/7 5pts 2 asts.
    JLin $2M 20 mins 2/5 5pts 2 asts.

  • Martin Chong

    yaaaa……please!!!

  • blaznazn22

    it was just a quick convo, mj was messing with lin about his hair, lin smiled and went to locker room. Brief, maybe 4 seconds, nothing big.

  • Martin Chong

    MJ said man you have to shoot more.

  • Briiick

    Agreed.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    First they wanted us to wait for 20 then 30 game samples, how many so far has Cliff increased the way he uses Lin so far?

  • sws94

    LIn had a way better game than Dragic. Dragic didn’t really impact the game. And Lin isn’t a 2 mil player. He’s an at least $8 mill player that settled for 2 mil. Dragic isn’t coming close to living up to his contract playing with the Heat. He’s an excellent player but this isn’t the right team for him.

  • LinMad

    Al Jefferson suspended for smoking weed is 1-0 on the season…just saying #keepsmoking #statsthatmatter

  • DX

    I think no one said Lin had a bad game, just had bad stats.

  • Acbc

    Raptors won against Spurs but sits 3 with 14/9. Charlette is 13/8 so mathematically better.

  • sws94

    There’s a good feeling in this team and they are winning. All Lin needs to do is stay the course. His plan is to ride out the process to contributing progressively more as the season progresses.

  • LinMad

    i think ppl are just pissed he missed the 2 free throws. That’s rare. If he made both and Cliff sat him the rest of game with just 7 pts, I think no one would have complained about his stats.

  • grover chang

    I’m a little surprised the are so many complaints about Lin tonight. He played hard, played the right way, didn’t make mistakes, controlled, his whole team played the right way, and won.

  • Acbc

    If MDA is coaching somewhere, I’d like him to go there and take his chances.

  • LinMad

    is there a lot of complaints? I only saw like 2 ppl complain here.

  • sws94

    I agree. Also I don’t like comparing Lin’s stats and saying he has a low salary. And that’s not to point out anyone that has done that. Lin had plenty stinkers when he had the 3-year $25 million contract and guys had better games against him. If Lin is playing a series of games where he does a good job on a good player, that’s what really matters.

  • Tgvcbhujm

    On the other site people be mad complaining…

  • DX

    The problem is his stats gets lower and lower even lower than career average. He won’t have a chance become a starter if keep doing these.

  • CJSHYY

    Bc his stats looks bad… Well, he will take more shots next game.

    I am glad they finally played his team ball today that means MJ also believe more in Lin’s game now.

  • It’s early but my guess is if JLin:
    – gets 25-30min PT,
    – regularly closes out games and
    – Hornets advanced deep in the playoff plus Batum coming back;
    – no other starter position or MDA as a coach

    he might stay with $7-8M/yr (cheap in new NBA salary cap).
    But he has to forego his starter and All-Star dream

    I think Lin is just enjoying a great chemistry with an unselfish team so he’s not thinking beyond this season yet

  • LinMad

    well ya, that site is always bashing Lin when he doesn’t get his double figure stats.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Clifford treated Lin today like a bouncer, taking him out when things under control then oops, come back in Jeremy.

  • kauaiblue

    I really dont like how hes not the pg… its such a waste of talent… these coaches dont see how l8n controls the game!

  • Briiick

    There is no way Lin would accept a bench role in Hornets next season for less than 10M/year.

  • 200% yessssss …

  • sws94

    Who?

  • JJ Hui

    Lin had rebounds n steals, played great defends too!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The most important game is the next game.

  • LinMad

    well if he’s ever going to find a home, I think as long as Hornets give him his minutes and he has a role in Hornets, that’s all that matters. Lin even made a post about how results don’t matter. Ofc, he wants to do well but the big picture is winning on a team that has a defined role for Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s pretty much match his last two game’s schedule. Only today it’s more a blowout game so he played less min.

  • LinMad

    ya it looked normal too me. It’s better than being last in, first out. If this wasn’t a blowout game, Lin would have closed. I don’t think Cliff pulled Lin at the end cause he couldn’t make a basket. Cause the 3rd stringers lost a 30 pt lead, it was cut in half. Cliff would have yanked everyone out if that was the case.

  • Acbc

    Don’t need anyone to approve of Lin. Lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He’s working for more but in no way I can guess how much.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think so.

  • sws94

    If he played longer, he may have had more points. Maybe not that much more. He didn’t really need to score that much today and took the shots the defense presented. Don’t know what happened with the FTs, he just missed them.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Agreed!

  • CJSHYY

    Well, I think they finally agreed to play his team ball & Lin just tried to show I’m unselfish….But I wish he can be more selfish. Bc unlike Batum, even he took less shots but Hornets set up tri-double to make it up for him. I think he’ll stay but not Lin yet… so not the same treatment.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Kobe is not closing game?

  • blaznazn22

    thnx for stating the obvious

  • Acbc

    Considering that no one expected Hornets to even be competitive, I would think a little enthusiasm is warranted. No one likes a wet blanket when team is doing well. Lol

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Let me check…

  • CJSHYY

    Russell & Randle play well since move to bench.

  • blaznazn22

    just realized something. If golden state warriors win the next 10 games, they will tie the all time record set by the lakers in 1971 lakers for continuous winning streak. Their 34th game will be against….guess who…yepp its the hornets. If hornets somehow take the top spot in the east, it will be the best of the east vs the best of the west final showdown. It would be absolutely epic if it happened and hornets end up beating them.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Must be something reversed BS call.

  • wandertheglobe

    That was a winnable game had Lin got a chance to close out the game. Too bad Cliff took Lin out when it was anyone’s game.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Everyone plays well without Kobe

  • Hope

    Did I win? 4/2/15min

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Interesting but this time they play at home. VERY hard.

  • blaznazn22

    true…just a hypothetical situation, it would be pretty interesting either way to see it happen. The only way its possible is if the golden state can beat the cavs on christmas…otherwise it won’t even matter the next time we face them

  • Rick Johnson

    Depends on how they count it. If you include winning streak continuing from last year the 33rd game is Christmas against the Cav’s.

  • wandertheglobe

    Where are the potential landing places? Not Lakers for sure. Probably not Houston either. Nets and Kings are the only 2 teams that may hire MDA.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Beating GS is still and always great. Hope Cliff will put Lin on Curry this time, that’d also free Kemba to run the offense more effectively.

  • blaznazn22

    i don’t accept that because when you look at the lakers record, it was 33 games continuous in same season which is much harder than combining 2 seasons. If you want people, and magic johnson to accept that this golden state team is the best in history you need to beat the continuous streak in one season. You can’t count last season since they got beat by cavs twice in the post season.

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe benched at end of close game? B Scott actually trying to win? This is where he’d usually shoot the Lakers out of the game.

  • LW

    The Hornets winning is no fluke. They have multiple guys who can shoot 3’s, multiple guys who can facilitate, multiple guys who can play-make, they play good defense (lead by Lin) and they have a very strong bench (lead by Lin) that have saved their starters multiple times. With building chemistry, they are becoming a really versatile team right now.

  • maybe there is a little @Hope:disqus :]

  • Briiick

    I think Lin plays BB correctly for winning, but he also aims high. If Hornets want him next season for a bench role, they have got to pay him more than a starting PG.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    lol

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. Russell plays well from the bench. He got 23 to tie the game. It’s OT now. Young is also playing tonight.

  • LinJa

    They’re treating Lin like avg pg

  • JJ Hui

    I think Lin looks the best and most handsome was when he had the first Hornets media day with Coach Clifford. That hair made him look so good! Fresh, young, handsome and stylish!

  • blaznazn22

    yeah if that game happens, they should have their strongest lineup ready to go from the start: nick batuum, kemba walker, cody zeller, marvin williams, jeremy lin. Then slowly rotate in lamb/ zeller/ hawes and kaminsky

  • Hope

    AJ is guaranteed coming off bench or be traded. This team is doing without him. KW is better git with the system or he’ll be falling off this wagon.

  • Hope

    Goofy

  • Rick Johnson

    NBA recognizes both:

    Is it 22 or 26? Your primer on the Warriors’ various winning streaks

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25404690/is-it-22-or-26-your-primer-on-the-warriors-various-winning-streaks

  • wandertheglobe

    Watching the Knicks vs Jazz game, Clyde Frazier just said, “Only Linsanity would surpass Bill Bradley’s debut at the Garden”

  • Dan Cohen

    probably not.. franchise have to play against franchise players…else you are disrupting their confidence.

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Wow! Love Clyde Frazier.

  • Dan Cohen

    that will hurt his career and free agency. there is no stats for defense.
    so imho, I think he better perk up to score. he is like giving up about 3 to 5 points off the table ALL the time.. for a bench player that is huge.. it’s not 13 points last time.. it can be 16 to 18 points ..it’s not 5 points today it can be 8 to 10… that is huge for the average.

  • james brown

    i think Batum has now more or less make reason to stay with Hornets next season unless something comes better for him. But as player, he is now a starter and 1st option in scoring, maybe liking the position of Sg with less defense for him not to tire and money is in the table. They catered to Batum the right way and biting is forthcoming.

    Hope they now turn to JLIN and cater to him now so they can see the big chance of JLIN being with them in the long run.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Then let witness the 2nd massacre.

  • kauaiblue

    Jeremy!

  • blubell
  • Mr Chuckles

    #letalsmoke

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Love him and he spoke the true. Mr. Frazier was there since day one of both incidents.

  • james brown

    it will come i believe when he knew finally that cliffs giving him the key to make his offense work. Cliff showed JLIN how he can be a defensive stopper though at the expense of his offense, but carefully balancing it with the team help (they are now buying onto the team Defense) Lin will somehow give extra juice to his offense in the coming games.

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    Thanks. I turned off TV when Lin was off.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s something else not hair…

  • CJSHYY

    Lakers lose but Russell played well today. Really surprise to see all these players who BS don’t like to close the game for him today? Russell, Randle, & Young!!!

  • Chopz

    Hilarious

  • David Kim

    sixers?

  • CJSHYY

    I know I don’t like that but that’s Lin…. he’s so happy that Hornets finally played his team ball today. I think he has team to go next year that’s why he did’t really care about his stats… otherwise it’s not make sense at all why he doesn’t care about his stats? It’s his contract year.

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    I think they did talk to Lin & cater to Lin in preseason but I guess Lin didn’t make the decision yet… that’s why everything was off…. Batum probably did that’s why everything it’s Batum now. Hornets sure wants to keep Lin but not sure Lin wants to stay…

  • leeda harun

    Hello, what is lin stat for this game?

  • Steppen03

    Kemba ain’t going anywhere… He’s Jordan Brand. =)
    If we Desire to go deep into postseason AJ need to go – for the better of the offense and defense. If he comes off the bench and play with Lin – think Lin can help him ?? AJ need to be a much better defender for sure…

  • I’m going to use my basic lip-reading skill to interpret what MJ said:

    “I looked at your new hair … What happened? (laugh)”

    I’m not sure about the 1st part since JLin’s head blocked it but it looked like MJ said “What happened?” in the end

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Steppen03

    He did played well. Just need to knock those FTs down – like a “Russell Westbrook”. We all hope to see his 45% 3-FG real soon.

  • Joe what do you know

    I REALLY, REALLY want to know what MJ actually said… He looked like he was very pleased…. Or amused???

  • occupatio

    head of the snake

  • james brown

    like this write ups for JLIN:
    Jeremy Lin strides toward comfort in Charlotte after the mania of ‘Linsanity’ by “ADI Joseph”

    and i quote:

    [“He’s done that to some degree,” Lin said. “I know clearly what he
    expects from me. … But that’s why I feel like it’s a process. I feel
    like he’s going to continue to learn my game to see what I can do.
    Obviously watching film is one thing, but implementing it into a game,
    into a full situation is another thing.

    “As time goes on, we’ll just be more and more comfortable, and I’ll
    be able to pick my spots in the offense, and he’ll be able to see what
    really works, what I can do well — not just what I can do well, period,
    but what I can do well that fits with the guys and the system. … It
    takes time.”]

    Obviously, JLIN knows that Cliff’s can’t still see what he can offer offensively because he still rely with KW at the moment and they are winning. a win beats all and JLIN knew it that’s why he has said, he is patient and its a progress.

    adding quote from said article…..
    [ “They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s
    just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands,” Lin said last month.” ]

    to all whose expectation are all grandeur, must be willing to invest on more patience for Jlin is also waiting for the right moment and at the right time whenever Cliff finally found the right way to use JLIN both defensively and offensively.

  • occupatio

    #2 in the eastern conference now.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings

    1 win behind cavs

  • LinMad

    a win is a win. ofc he’s happy. his team is now 2nd in EC. I’m happy Lin is happy and MJ is too.

  • Dan Cohen

    Actually the biggest acquisition for hornets is Batum. He is the only starter in that acquisition.

  • LinMad

    im proud that Lin is on an underdog team and is now #2 team in EC. Keep it going!

  • Dan Cohen

    MJ must be like rubbing his eyes to see if it’s true. hahaah

  • LinMad

    I’m starting to see it but I think if Lin had 30 minutes every game and the green light to do what he wanted, he would have been in better shape. People said Batum is biggest acquisition cause he’s replacing MKG but he really isn’t. Batum’s defense is not that great. His offense is good though just needs to lower his turnovers some games.

    I think Lin is still the biggest acquisition cause he’s the one who is willing to sacrifice his stats just to fit the mold for the team. What team really needs, Lin is there for defense and play making and scoring when he can.

  • gandychan

    Not 1 win. 1 game behind the cavs. 1 win with cavs idle would only put Charlotte at 0.5 a game behind.

  • Acbc

    Batum wouldn’t be looking so good if not for Lin and second unit. BF1 is as good as a lot of starters on other teams and this depth is saving the starters and giving them a lot of confidence to not get too tight. Kemba and Batum are playing with very little pressure that other starters feel if the team is losing. How many games did we see them struggling and then bench comes in to give them the lead?

  • Briiick

    Batum plays more correctly than Walker. But when facing tough situation, like in the OT vs King, we have seen who is the difference maker of the team. Next season when Lin is likely no longer a Hornet, people will see how good Batum really is assuming he is given a contract bigger than Walker’s.

  • sport

    “They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s
    just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands” In other words Lin’s not being the ball handler or PG which hurts his game! Seriously did Hornets expect him to be Linsanity playing off ball? That’s not going to happen with Walker and Batum fighting to be the star.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • occupatio

    lol, russell has no fear of repercussions.

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674653678272438273

  • CJSHYY

    Right now Batum is their #1 guy to please on the team.

  • occupatio

    got it

  • james brown

    not biggest but the teams NO.1 priority to sign comes next FA, and they have the means to sway his mind on not to look for other team than hornets.

  • james brown

    he might be the nest one because they already signed Lamb, Al Jeff seems tradeable..so might be Lin come next after all star…

  • sws94

    How does the NBA highlights not have Lin’s lob to Batum for the triple double score?

    http://www.nba.com/games/20151209/MIACHA/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6d

  • james brown

    maybe i forgot the premise for this reply from JLIN…..

    as i quote again:
    [But after three years of unrealistic expectations yet solid production with the Rockets and Lakers, the spotlight has turned.
    “They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s
    just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands”]
    end of quote!

  • bolero
  • james brown

    basketBender!

  • sport

    Lets hope they will start Lin soon. These minutes are just horrible, making these games unwatchable for Lin fans.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I thought.

  • james brown

    that’s why Cliff’s inserting Batum/KW with the second unit from time to time to erase the notion that second unit playing better with the starters…why not rest Batum and KW when Jlin is in the floor for him to go all out everytime? thats the question and that’s why Jlin still persevere.

  • Acbc

    The Lin hornet!

  • occupatio

    this is worth listening to to see cliff’s understanding of when batum looks people off even when they are open. this is interesting, so cliff approves of ignoring open shooters and not passing to them depending on the personnel/situation.

    so if batum looks off a player next time, you can be sure cliff approves.

    post game interview
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video#

  • bolero

    Lin ignored Batum too a few times

  • sport

    Been saying this every season, Lin needs to shoot more by himself instead of going “passing mode” which cause predictable TOs.

  • sport

    Lin should ignore Walker even more.

  • JoeTeam

    Lin’s Queue:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

    Somewhere in Asian American history I think there was a rebellion when all the railroad workers cut their queues. Anybody know the history? I’d be proud if JLin has a message with this current style.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! W Kemba, Lin usually didn’t get the ball…. LOL!

  • bolero

    he did sometimes..lol

  • sport

    That’s why when Lin gets those rebounds he shouldn’t pass to anyone else and just go on his one man fast breaks or a stop and pop 2/3!

  • JoeTeam

    Q!

  • Rick Johnson
  • The LinManBun?

  • JoeTeam

    I like it !

  • JoeTeam

    but you can count on GSW beating CLE on Christmas Day lol so you were right ha ha.

  • JoeTeam

    ha ha, Serena is the PR lady. Hmmm the plot is thick in there.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I don’t like it even I am his fan. But probably have to accept it for next 20 games. LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s by order ….

  • InfiniteWisdom

    i think i get it. lin is the team’s glue guy. i originally thought batum was because he does a lil bit of everything, but he’s really their number 1 or 2 option. lin is the glue guy. he hustles, plays d, supports teammates, is friends off the court with teammates, does what he can on offense without forcing, doesnt complain, coachable, works hard, high character guy/humble, etc…

    if you think in these terms, you cant be disappointed. sure we all want him to dominate the ball, but can we as fans complain about iso play and yet want lin to do that? the ONLY thing i dislike right now is his shooting has been bad. i believe he will get better as time goes by.

    i think he’s happy and we should be too. the handshakes are back. his shot will improve, points will go up a bit, playing time will stabilize. but in terms of impact, this team needs him. he leads the bench and when he plays with the starters, he does whatever is needed: defense, floor spacing, clutch shots/drives, drawing fouls, etc. the stats arent there, and i dont expect them to get significantly better, but in terms of impact, he’s never been more important to a team (since linsanity). he may have found his role as glue guy, and im fine with that cuz we winning…

  • JoeTeam

    they will count it from last year so the tie game is 12.28 at 33. By the time CHA get back to GSW in Jan, it will be over.

  • CJSHYY

    I really don’t like Kemba to play w Lin for too long. Why not let Lin just run few min of PG in the beginning of 2 & 4Q?

  • JoeTeam

    I think it’s the game after.

  • Briiick

    Spotlightshield

  • JoeTeam

    sportscasters said they will count from last year. Of course GSW can go for 33 this year, but the official count is just a streak.

  • JoeTeam

    He killed me in fantasy but I liked his swag on the court and he missed 2 FTs so he sat. Someone here said he’s nursing a bad back and had to fly in his own acupuncturist.

    Nobody looked worried, least of all him. He was v calm.

  • leeda harun

    i hope he put on stats more because people tend to forgot his contribution

  • LinMad

    i hope some games he gets to play linsanity

  • sws94

    Clifford said Nic throws the ball to guys where he knows they are in a good position to do something. If the guys is open, but in a spot where he isn’t in a good place to do something he’ll look them off. That’s a good quality. Lin does that too but sometimes he bails himself out by throwing to open guys who aren’t in a position to make a play due to the position they’re in. Not much. But that is an excellent quality Nic has.

    But Nic isn’t perfect either. He is TO prone and sometimes he’ll misread where someone is or going. He does seem to be in a passing groove in the last 3 games or so.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    linsanity happens every game in the 2nd quarter. it’s not what we fans want, but lin is really important for this team. does he get enough praise? imo no, but at least there’s no vitriol from the homer fans. for the first time, he’s getting positive vibes from the media too.

  • sws94

    Doesn’t apply to the last few games. HIs TO total is low. He’s passing because he’s trying to build chemistry with team mates. That’s how it is when you join a team. It takes months to really build full chemistry with most of them. Lin will shoot more post ASB in my opinion.

  • jeremy

    avg back up pg

  • JoeTeam

    awesome share!

  • JoeTeam

    what can help is injuries to opponents as the season grinds on, and this team gel-ing properly.

  • LinMad

    ya im not saying it doesn’t happen. He had one in OT the other day and being #2 team in the EC right now also feels good. Better than being on Lakers. I just like a good story and Hornets so far is a good story cause no one expected they would make playoffs but they are #2 team rn. They need to keep at it.

  • jeremy

    I dont complain about the iso plays Those are fun to watch if the player’s good like Vince Carter, AI, Kobe and T mac. Not a lot of teams play isos any more the only players who can do that now are Durant, Harden and Irving, PG, westbrook and Crawford(theres probably more) Lin doesnt possess the skill set to play that way so nobody expects him to play iso or dominate the ball but every once in a while he can look to get his if the shots are there then again its his decision
    Fans can decide to be happy that Lin is contributing or not happy his stats are awful.

  • sws94

    Clifford uses the best personnel on the floor at any time and that’s the best together. Batum is his number 1 facilitator and he helps Kemba. The 2nd unit still has a lot of inexperience so having 2 solid facilitators on the court at the same time makes sense for Lin’s unit. There are times Lin is there alone, but some of the bonehead stuff that Hawes does, and then inexperience from Lamb and Kaminsky can bog the offense down. That’s why Batum and MW or at least Lin with MW is there with Lin to help organize the offense.

  • sws94

    He’s playing great. They aren’t a smart organization if they don’t cater somewhat to his basketball abilities.

  • jeremy

    Lin is a good distributor but hes not great at it its not his strongest suit
    He is more of a score first guard or combo guard but lately hes not even that his offence became quite irrelevant
    He’s more of a D guy now

  • jeremy

    When he tries too much he gets a lot of TOs but everyone does
    its whatever
    He doesnt wanna take over anymore like he used to
    back when he was fighting for the starting job in Hou

  • sws94

    I don’t think he plays like a score-first guard anymore. He did at first with the Knicks and occasionally with the Rockets. But he’s more play within the system and pick your spots to score, otherwise dribble-drive create type of PG now. And D too, yes. His offense isn’t irrelevant, it’s just not always on display.

  • james brown

    ignoring the open plaayers and tries to pass because of position sometimes gets Batum into a bind..thats what happened when Batum commits TO’s..

    In todays game batum been passing to the open man and not held the ball longer than expected because passing creates open man for an open look at the hoops

  • sws94

    They also moved faster, it opens things up. That’s what opened up the lob. Batum figured if I beat my man down the court and Lin gets the ball, he’ll outlet it to me. Batum was ready for that lob pass.

  • jeremy

    He was still considered a 6th man in hou and kind of in LA
    without his offense theres not much to him thats appealing
    His offence has always been inconsistent to some extent but now its just bad

  • CJSHYY

    That’s one thing I am not happy about it. Bc Lin didn’t get any credit for the team won… Good D. None… I listen to Heat commentators. All they talked about it only Batum & Kemba. Also a little bit on Lamb. None for Lin but this is his 6 years in NBA.

    Hornets played Lin’s team ball but no one really cares just good ball movement….

  • Rick Johnson

    Harden and Howard don’t seem to be on the same page:

    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/674780611534426112

  • sws94

    Another thing is Batum is playing with Cody more. He’s more mobile than Al Jefferson. Helps Batum out a lot. When you get chemistry with one guy you can go to him but also opens it up for others. He has chemistry with Kemba and Cody, his misread was with Lin on a play resulting in a Batum TO.

  • sws94

    Relax. They aren’t going to talk about Lin every game. Some games, other guys will emerge. Last game, the away team talked about Lin alot. And maybe next game. Not every one.

  • Acbc

    You insult Lin by assuming that he can’t do what you think is manly or cool. The truth is Lin could dominate the ball like he did whenever he’s allowed to do so. That unfortunately only happens when fate intervenes and Lin gets the call to be the “man”. How many times does it happen? Only when everyone on the bench is injured and Lin is the last man standing.

    As in Star Wars, ” I find you’re lack of faith disturbing”.

    Lin chooses to accept his role as dictated by the team and coaches because that’s how he gets PT. if he goes rogue, he’ll get benched just as he was in LA or openly lying and ridiculed by Mchale for scoring “29pts while turning over the ball 9 times”, which of course never happened.

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t mean they had to say something like Hornets commentators too over sometimes. But just from the way they talked you know Lin is nobody now…

  • james brown

    no reason to say that you’re second unit best the starters if it really happened…so if the second unit is Best on their position, you need to rest your starters during those times..i am saying this because stats say so and eye test says so..

    second unit Inexperienced??? Hawes? Lamb? JLIN? maybe with Kaminsky because he’s a rooky..Zeller can also be called second unit but now starting..it was so obvious during the previous games that the second unit gives the separation the team needs.

    Obviously, Batum plays well with the second unit rather that the starter…KW doesnt’t coz he’s a ball stopper till last game, but not on this game i saw!

  • sws94

    He’s not nobody. Really. He’ll emerge in some games. I don’t think they were quiet with that lob he made to Batum. I didn’t listen to their feed but that was a nice play. It was Batum’s day and Kemba played well. It’s ok.

  • sws94

    If that’s how you want to view it, so be it. I think as the season progresses we’ll see more of Lin’s offense, he’s figuring out how to use it with this deep team.

  • occupatio

    this is hilarious. felton doesnt even jump

  • CJSHYY

    I picked Heat feed on purpose bc I want to know what other teams really talk about Lin now… Bulls was surprised high on him… (maybe bc they want to get him next year…) But so far I don’t see anyone think he’s good in D as we thought or talked….Oh! NYK is always good to Lin.

  • occupatio

    the response by beverley, in the corner, is funny

  • sws94

    Yes, Lamb still shows inexperience. Hawes just plays dumb. And Kaminsky has inexperience. MW is very experienced and plays smart basketball as does Batum. Lin plays mostly smart and gets a little amped up and over-agressive at spots in games but then calms down. You have to look at the balance of the 5 on the court so adding Batum makes sense. Kemba doesn’t add much, but sometimes Cliff prefers he runs the plays and Lin slides to 2. Sometimes it is for defensive reasons. He’ll put Lamb on a weaker offensive player and Lin on the stronger one if the height difference isn’t too much.

  • Funny. After McHale is gone, Harden tried this home-run pass =)

    https://vine.co/v/iZahTpvdbLJ/embed/simple

  • sws94

    That’s good but when someone gets a triple-double, that’s who they’ll talk about. Lin was very solid in this game but he didn’t do enough to have the other team talk about him. He will in other games, just not this one. This one Batum, Cody Zeller stood out and Kemba had an efficient scoring game and 5 steals. So that’s who they talk about.

  • CJSHYY

    Lawson is really short?

  • Felton be like, “You’re still here? Block!”

    Their ground game is strong

  • james brown

    with KW he’s a scorer..with Jlin he takes the facilitation plays. Misread do comes against the player who has the TO. But seldom Jlin misread batum.(misreading comes from doubting,its either i pass or not pass, thats why it will come late when you decide to do it)..Batum when reacting gives the best passing because he pass what he seeing.

    KW before this game pass only when he’s on a bind and you can count it almost always a TO..remember the jumping and passing? KW almost do this on all his games especially when he has nowhere to go. but on todays game, we saw that early on the play, he release the ball and pass that makes the game today funt o watch. hope this continue for KW got his points even at this kind of system.

  • sws94

    Went for the lob but Dwight wasn’t in position to jump up for it. That was a terrible read by Harden. Should have gone to the wide open Beverley.

  • sws94

    Yes.

  • CJSHYY

    Not Batum’s tri-double. Just in general Lin is not high from Heat commentators. Well, I hope now Hornets finally played his team ball… Let’s see what Lin will do next then….

  • james brown

    Howard thought that since harden always shoot the ball, so whats new this time..oooopppps, he did pass the ball..LOL!

  • For some reason, Harden thought Dwight will go up to jam it.

    Yes, Bev was so wide-open that he faked Bev

  • yes, how is he supposed to know Harden will pass it? lol

  • sws94

    They think they stopped Linsanity. Some commentators don’t like Lin. Atlanta is the worse one with stupid Dominique Wilkens insulting Lin almost the whole time he’s on the court. The fair away announcers complement Lin when he plays well, the unfair ones don’t.

  • Acbc

    Only too true. PR and politics follows Lin every where. I don’t fret too much because at least with Hornets he’s getting some good PR and reversing the 3 years of beat down by ahouston and LA. The way I look at it, Lin is too smart to be used by ignorance. He’s fully eyes wide open because he’s getting enough out of the situation to go forward.

    Ultimately Charlette is shooting themselves in the foot by not taking advantage of all they can get out of Lin. By using Lin to shine up Walker and kiss up to Batum, lin becomes a one year rental that will have immediate impact on this team. Hornets will revert as all teams that have tried to use Lin but deliberately suppress Lin.

    Think of Lin as being subversively disruptive to the team by being so important to them without anyone noticing it that only when he has flown the coop that every team regrets losing him. Lin makes them pay for their ignorance by being too good to them. Lol

  • james brown

    thats the whole aspect of an injury, playing your starter more minutes because coach seems doubtfull of his players..KW made some errors too but no doubt TRUST is there, but i don’t see the reason of inexperience. JLIN alone makes wonderful plays and when he’s aggressive comes the fun of it, so aggressiveness comes off hwen he’s not the focal point..KW or Batum in there will make JLIN only as the second or 3rd option.

    if you are addressing the team concept, i agree with you that balance of the starters and bench are needed and to make both units works well, needs to have at least the best possible composition every plays. so PJ position on the starting unit doesn’t warrant any reason at all but because cliff wants tyo use him (bonus if he score) but i don’t see that Pj makes the starter better. If cliff wants to make bench better, he should also think and arrange the starter for it to be the best!

    But 20 games counting, i doubt if inexperience is the reason why KW or Batum was there. maybe Trust issue is the culprit and that is because cliff couldn’t see Jlin or Lamb can handle the second unit…so its on cliff and not on the player, except the players themselves proved that they can handle things if given the opportunity..look at the separations they made on the times that they are playing.

  • jeremy

    Way too fat

  • sws94

    Kemba knows Clifford’s sets, expectations more than others. So, when Cliff feels a need for that, I guess Kemba comes in. But a lot of what he does is for matchups. The substitutions may be based on what the opponents do as to why Kemba comes in and Lin slides to the 2. It also looks to me now that Lin is favored to close halves and games. I have to see more about games because Cliff hasn’t committed to it to the press, but his actions show a preference for Lin to close games and sometimes halves.

  • CJSHYY

    Bc Hornets started to play more & more team ball that’s why Batum was in passing groove also that could help him get his tri-double record.

  • Hope

    Hope MDA will be coach next season and Lin will join him.

  • grover chang

    His game is so quiet but important for the team. He has settled into being one of the guys that makes the whole better and not the center of attention. The rest of the NBA likely prefers to not have the undrafted Asian guy from Harvard be the star. I think we need to make a new -sanity. Not Linsanity, Not Hairsanity, But Subsanity ( a smaller, effective sanity below Linsanity) that “subs” in from the bench.

  • CJSHYY

    Well said.

  • CJSHYY

    He plays well but also bc they do cater for him to do well. Ya! Since not that many players will come so they have to try everything they can to make Batum happy & stays….

  • sws94

    I’m really leery of this sentiment that Lin will go off with MDA and that’ll be best for Lin. In fact, I’m against it.

    It took a perfect situation, including injuries, for MDA’s Linsanity to happen. And that meant no Anthony on the floor. Lin had both the system and players and coach and no ball stopper to do his magic. And what happened a few games after Anthony came back? The Knicks went on a losing streak and that was the flipside to Linsanity. Eventually what happened? MDA left the Knicks and Woodson took over. He didn’t make it till the end of the season.

    There is no guarantee that MDA will recruit Lin to play him so many minutes or even as head PG in whatever new team he has. There will be politics there of who to use and they may want to go with a different type of PG. So all of this wanting MDA to be Lin’s designated coach I just can’t go along with. I totally want to see Lin play well with another coach that encourages ball movement. If it isn’t Clifford and he doesn’t stay with the Hornets, why not someone else? Is Lin so limited that he can only play well under MDA? I don’t think so.

    I don’t go along with this at all. MDA has shown limitation in how long he’s welcome as a coach lately. There are coaches that are now better offensively and defensively than MDA.

  • heart

    I stopped listen to Hornets feed. I learn more from opponent’s commentators whether they like Lin or not. Except I don’t listen to Lin’s past team commentators.

  • JJ Hui

    Yes, clyde Frazier!

  • sws94

    I don’t know about the Asian thing so much anymore. Lin is now a real NBA guy and is considered a dangerous player if not contained. I think Lin himself wants to not be the center of attention but still wants to make a substantial contribution to winning. And he’ll be Hairsanity some days and the glue guy the other days. The Harvard/Asian thing isn’t so much on the forefront as much as it used to be. Now he’s almost a veteran who can be a weapon for the opposing team. Some people will never accept Asians in the NBA, others just kind of see the player to plan to contain.

  • CaliUSMC

    I would like him to go to the Spurs and be a back-up for the aging Tony Parker whos #’s have been on the decline for the past few yrs.

  • sport

    After 5 teams with no coach willing to start him, it says a lot about the bias Lin has to face! And if MDA is the only coach Lin can do well so what?! Where would Jordan and Kobe be without Phil Jackson?! Both of their careers fell off after Phil left!

  • Mr Chuckles

    I know the Hornets are winning and #2 in the East. But as a Lin fan, I am not that happy with Lin’s game right now. Yes, he is playing strong defense but he doesn’t touch the ball much. And when he does, he isn’t shooting well (even with really good looks), he isn’t finishing drives that well, he isn’t creating a lot of great looks for teammates, and when he gets fouled, he is missing a lot of free throws.

    Maybe it is his back that is bothering him. Some will say he is spending a lot of energy on D. Maybe it is a little of both, but the games are kind of boring for me when Lin isn’t more of a two-way threat. I’m sure he will eventually get things righted but it just isn’t the same thrill watching him play right now.

  • sws94

    McHale and Scott started him. I think both were poor coaches. Lin chose Charlotte knowing he wouldn’t start. Clifford is a good coach. I think he’s fine in Charlotte so long as things progress and so far they are. I don’t need him to start. If he has power to play his game and knows what the coach wants and most of his teammates tendencies, he’s in a good place to do well.

  • Hope

    I think Lin rather builds his success from ground up than joining a successful team. 76ers is a very good candidate next year.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. Bc I know they will always say nice about Lin. I just want to know more what other teams really think about him now. Bc I don’t think Lin will stay w Hornets next year. I want to know which team is really high on him….LOL!

  • sport

    Only averaging 18 minutes per game and not even considered 6th man in rotation, what do you expect? That’s why I just watch highlights now. It by far the most disappointing season and about time Lin learns to do more iso plays and ignore passing to teammates for his own shots. He should know that some iso plays is completely fine. He doesn’t always have to pass the ball just cause a teammate asks for it!

  • occupatio

    not much to say here. shooting-wise, this is the worst season of his career.

    but on the plus side, consider how effective lin is without a perimeter shot right now. when he finally fixes his shot, it will all come together nicely.

    as far as not handling the ball and controlling the offense — that is the worst thing about being on this team. cuz kemba is not a PG.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I like him. NY fans & media like Lin…

  • sws94

    He fits well with this team. Did you see him in Portland? It was very different, more featuring LMA and Lillard. Batum didn’t get a chance to show off all of his basketball skills.

  • james brown

    thats why i was almost confused during the previous game where cliff sit KW and let Jlin closed out games..

    I thought Cliff saw already how to make out of JLIN…but when post interview do comes during some other games, he specifically mentioned that He’s finding ways to reinsert some players as against Jlin but couldn’t find the chance…so more often, Trust is still the issue for if one is playing good, why says to the media what your intentions during the games where the player you’re supposed target of sub played hard for you but still not enough to believe that he’s the real deal..

    just like JLIN had said…its a Process and patience is a virtue. whether is a pattern of substitution, etc, JLIN know that come right moment and open trust by his coach , his time will come.

    If it will be on the other teams after FA, i follow!

  • sport

    Don’t need him to start?! Are you crazy? Not starting means he’ll only get 15-18minutes per game with many single digit scoring!

  • james brown

    see the pattern with JLIN..Batum has potential but can’t get off because its lillard and LMA’s team, moreso that this KW and Batum’s team, so JLIN will find it hard (20/80 chance because he is a PG and KW is a PG also) to showcase himself and “get a chance to show off all of his basketball skills”

  • Hope

    He’s not sticking around in Charlotte if he gets offered starter somewhere.

  • james brown

    so portland is not a smart team?

    at least you are seeing that they are CATERING to batum …….maybe because of “fit and Basketball skills” as you mentioned below.

  • occupatio

    thats for sure.

  • Mr Chuckles

    Unfortunately, who will offer him a starting position with the way he is playing/being used now?

  • blaznazn22

    alot of people say *when* he fixes his shot, but never consider the *if*

  • leeda harun

    if there i.s an offer but usually they looks at stats first..sigh

  • occupatio

    its possible his shot will be broken for a long time, ie for most of this season. that is def possible.

    it is still unlikely tho.

  • sws94

    He said Lamb in a game in the 4Q only because Lamb went something like 8 for 10 and didn’t play at all in the 4Q. That doesn’t mean he was looking for Lamb to close the game. In the Knicks game Lin closed with Batum and Kemba wasn’t on the floor, no way was Lin not going to close due to how he was playing. In the Minn game I think Lamb was 8 for 10. Lin was playing well and was the only one to defend a guy, I think it was Kevin Martin, who was scoring on everyone else. But Lamb shot 80 percent and deserved to play because he played well. He didn’t play because the unit on the floor played better. It was more directed about the great play of Lamb at the time and why he didn’t get inserted than Cliff wanting to replace LIn as a closer.

    I think you are finding a lot of anti-Lin stuff where Cliff isn’t being anti-Lin. He’s looking at the whole team and trying to balance things out. It’s not a knock on Lin or distrust in him when he said he was trying to put an 80 percent shooter for the game back in but couldn’t due to the unit on the floor playing well.

  • Rick Johnson

    Something seems to have happened. He was shooting the best of his career in the pre-season. Now he’s having trouble with free throws.

  • sport

    Exactly! Lin just doesn’t get it, he needs “stats” to show he’s a star! Without a high average PPG for an entire season he will continue to be stuck as a bench player!

  • Hope

    It’s only 1/4. The season is long.

  • occupatio

    i was disappointed to see that steve van gundy gave the starting PG role to reggie jackson, and overpaid him too. makes me wonder he is bad at evaluating PG talent. he should have taken lin.

    lin would be killing it right now if he could play next to drummond.

  • sws94

    NO. I. don’t. need. him. to. start. Period. I’m not crazy. Is he getting 15-18 minutes now as a bench player? Have you looked at Iggy of GSW and how many minutes he gets? Lin can start from the bench and get his 24-28 minutes and have a huge impacts on games. In fact his first Linsanity game was off of the bench.

  • blaznazn22

    he might not get a “starter” position but if he plays at this level and contributes to the team this much he could probably be offered a backup pg spot on a title contender, ie cavs next season. He has proven his worth, big time and can sub in for lebron james/kyrie irving and be an offensive threat or sub in with one of the two and be a defensive threat. Either way I could see him getting 20+ minutes on the cavs, and judging how much irving/love and now that lebron getting older, are getting injured he would probably be a starter anyway. The real question is how much is the cavs willing to offer, and if lin will accept it.

  • leeda harun

    Yes the season is long… Wish that he get good stats now and we dont have to wait until ASB to find out.

  • sws94

    He has only been the primary handler of the ball in MDAs offense. In Woodson’s the ball flowed through Anthony. In McHale’s Harden handled it. In Scott’s, as a starter Kobe hogged the ball. On the bench, Lin mostly handled it except when Nick came in and hogged it. At least in Charlotte, Lin runs the PG in the 2Q and with Batum, they both run the offense and there is less ball hogging with a system that actually encourages ball movement.

  • jeremy

    This is the worst season for him
    Paul and everyone are saying Lin is improving thats great and all
    Lin is just going down the path to be a solid back up pg who plays the way coach wants him to
    no more taking over like he did in houston

  • leeda harun

    no to the cavs…

  • sws94

    Nothing is for sure. And why are we looking beyond this season that is currently defining itself? Lin said it’s a process. I take that as his instruction to have patience with this season and see what more develops.

  • occupatio

    the woodson offense going through anthony, and the mchale offense going through harden. those are at least reasonable or arguable decisons.

    but the offense going through kemba instead of lin, especially at these ridiculous proportions, is simply stupid.

  • sws94

    I think it is pretty much going through Batum, not Kemba as much. That’s the interesting development in the most recent games.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I seldom have any chance to listen to Hornets feed as my streaming is always linking to opponent teams:-) Having said that I seldom pay attention to what the announcers said unless it talked about JLin. I concentrate on watching the game when JLin is in rather than listen to announcers. Often I turn the voice rather low.

  • Hope

    I think he’s been playing really well this year. A lot more under control, plays with confidence, improved D, a very good captain, at least the bench unit and couple starters look to him to lead.

  • Mr Chuckles

    I would hate to see Lin on the same team with Lebron. It would be so hard to cheer for a team with Lebron on it.

  • CJSHYY

    I am not happy about his stats either. Not sure how long this only took few shots will last but today’s different bc they really played more team ball w good ball movement since vs Bulls game1. Lin probably just showed he’s unselfish…. I really hope Hornets & Cliff can give Lin more credit & freedom to play his game. Not just help your guys win but sacrifice himself.

  • occupatio

    batum is perfectly justifiable but im not talking about him. im talking about how much kemba handles the ball when hes in the game with lin. and that lin doesnt get enough kemba-free time.

    kemba is simply not good enough to justify his outsized role. replace lin with kemba in the 2nd unit, and that 2nd unit certainly is not going to be better as a whole — it will be worse.

    replace kemba with lin in the 1st unit, and that unit wont be worse, and i bet would be better. kemba is not needed to do so much on this team.

    kemba cant play off the ball. that is his limitation. and lin has to pay for kemba’s limitation by letting the inferior PG run the offense.

  • jeremy

    He will never be a star
    he seems to have already accepted being a role player coming off the bench
    but he’s still my boy the only asian in the NBA
    He will never achieve Yao’s greatness but hes done better than any other asians

  • james brown

    but we are now talking about closing…i am not looking for an anti=cliff things because i am reading what you are reading also..maybe dismissing one write up against another to sort whats happening. you are not changing you’re stand since the beginning even though it was clear that Cliff still has no trust with Jlin but trust PJ..what Pj can do, Lin can do it better and if you don’t believe that, then i don’t know what we are talking about here.

    He’s talking about Lambs performance not to spite JLIn i know, but why put it in that context when JLIN himself were doing better (scoring is not alone basis by what we mean by better) scoring wise meant not you’re per se performing well as we saw during that game. Lamb was a liability on defense but scoring well, yet cliff thought of bringing back a scoring player to replace a doing it all player, good that he didn’t and reasons and winning prevails. That’s why cliff is still better than Mchale and BS and not better than MikeDanthony in terns of Lins usage.

  • jeremy

    Cavs dont need him
    already have Irving Delly and Mo Will
    JR and SHumpert at the 2
    He wouldnt any minutes
    and his offense has took a dip no longer a threat

  • CJSHYY

    Paul said that….Lin is just going down the path to be a solid back up pg who plays the way coach wants him to …?

  • sws94

    I think the 17, 18, 24, 14, 28 pt games are coming. I’m not sure when. But when Lin starts knocking down that jumper and goes on a streak, that’ll start it in motion. I think it’s having faith that it will and being patient or just worrying about how his scoring is lately. We’re not 61 of 82, we’re 21 of 82 now.

  • Mr Chuckles

    I wouldn’t go that far. He clearly has the ability to be a star. It is just the unlikely situation where a team would let him be a star. I don’t think he has accepted being a role player off the bench, he just isn’t complaining about it. He is picking his battles.

  • CJSHYY

    In fact, w NYK, Lin was 100% PG after that … always mix w SG. In Hornets is really the worst one bc about 80% SG only few min PG w 2nd unit. smh!

  • blaznazn22

    yeah, sure they can consider it 33 continuous wins (even though technically they lost like 10 games in the post season) but if they DON’T get past the hornets on the 4th there will forever be a footnote, a small footnote, a tiny footnote, but still a footnote. The footnote will read: “not longest win streak in a single season”, and that will forever leave some nagging doubt as to which team was truly the greatest, no matter what a “sports caster” or the NBA says is technical. If they can beat the hornets, they leave no room for any doubt who the greatest team in history is and that is what they should aim for. Lets watch and see what happens, it should be an enjoyable ride. Hopefully if it does come down to it, hornet don’t get blown out again and be embarrased on national television…that would be the worst case scenario.

  • Hope

    The last 2 games Lin is shooting better. Maybe vs Memphis will be the game that Lin will score lots of points.

  • leeda harun

    i wish some reporter ask lin what happen to his shooting form… Really want to hear what he says about it.

  • sws94

    I think they’re trying to get Kemba in the all-star game. His numbers are better than ever. Cliff seems to leans towards either Kemba or Batum on the floor most times. Lin won’t get much PT with both of them off of it.

  • jeremy

    nope he only said hes happy lins developing
    but the way hes developing hes gonna end up a 15mpg back up

  • Hope

    Twinterview him the question.

  • leeda harun

    hope so. With lin you just can t pred ict his game

  • CJSHYY

    Developing? For what? stand in 3P corner for CnS SG? smh!

  • jeremy

    He can be a good starter but being a star will take more than that
    Lin hasnt shown hes got what it takes yet
    He doesnt have to complain just pad your stats a little bit

  • james brown

    then you are not wishing him well because you want him not to show what he’s capable of..
    not starting here had shown for now that he will only play less because coach with set plays in mind will not make him his options. hope this change and let see what happen next.

    i can wait for him to finish his tenure at hornets but i like him to be the focale point of a team where he will be given priority to carry it to the team because i know he can!

  • sws94

    I don’t know if Lin can play at a star-level for a sustained period to be considered a star. Lin can for some games and in spots in others. But stars do it for most of the games they play. And they play differently than Lin does, are more aggressive going to the ball or know the ball will mostly go through them. Love, for instance, knows that when playing with LeBron but he also dominates on the boards so he gets the ball.

  • blaznazn22

    he offers a different kind of offense that delly and mo will don’t have. Thats the ability to open up the floor and create plays. Delly is decent at playmaking but not as good as Lin. Mo Williams is a volume shooter who offers no benefits on a team already stacked to the brim with volume shooters. They would be better off with someone who can increase the offensive potential of the entire team, be able to read the other teams offense and play lock down defense, and im sure lin would fit that perfectly.

  • jeremy

    Yep playing within the system and all that

  • sws94

    Based on what? He’s a 23 MPG back up now. And he’s a 1/2 combo guard that plays crucial minutes of the games closing some. Based on what he’s doing, he’s likely to do that and more.

  • leeda harun

    i dont have twitter…lol

  • sws94

    That’s NOT what he did today. It’s not right to keep saying that. Lin is being utilized more in the offense and just doesn’t stand in the corner. They are moving away from that. And he certainly isn’t just a CnS SG. When he gets the ball he is another facilitator, but we have to accept that Batum has been the best facilitator on the team and he’s the main one. Lin is actually the 2nd best, he can beat out Kemba for that.

  • occupatio

    thats silly. you cant do much if you rarely touch the ball, except for some 8-10 minute stretch with the 2nd unit.

    its like your silly assist-comparison between kemba and lin. how do you compare assists between two players when both are often on the court at the same time and there is only ball, and that ball is rarely in lin’s hands?

    how do you get transition opportunities and easy shots if you arent the one who gets the outlet after the defensive rebound? how do you do anything without the ball?

  • jeremy

    He is not much of an offensive threat if he doesnt look to get his shots
    His defense improved but hes no tony allen or Bruce bowen
    So where does that leave him?
    I said he will go down that road
    his minutes will go down as Lamb picks up defense

  • james brown

    first Linsanity game, he was unknown then even with MDA, but Cliff told everybody he knew well JLIN’s game, so no more research and experimentation…

    what we have now is a given state..Hornets has a Franchise PG with a Catered SG, and then all role players (MKG i don’t know where to place, maybe Catered because PJ is a hold over for his position till he comes back)

  • sws94

    That’s a negative question. They won’t ask him that. They may ask him what he’s working on in the game, what he’s happy with and what he’d like to get better. But probably not. Team is winning and really, most reporters think he’s playing well.

  • leeda harun

    cliff is doing his job to make kw the face of the franchise and the owner happy.

  • jeremy

    Thats the thing thou
    If nobody gives you a chance, then thats it
    You are not gonna go too far

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. I don’t like or want him to stay w Hornets. Bc the only starting position for Lin it’s SG. W Kemba he will not get too much touch of the balls… That’s not good for him & I don’t think Lin like this role either.

  • blaznazn22

    being on the same team as lebron james, and actually being a decent help to him would be huge for lins career and stardom.

  • james brown

    is this a recognition that politics plays also with the team?

  • sws94

    Nonsense. I’m not looking for some ideal place for him because in my opinion no such place exist in the NBA. The NBA is a nasty place of egos and politics and always wanting to find the new young guy to replace all but the established stars. If Lin looks like he has a place he’s comfortable in and can have his imprint on the team in a reasonable amount of time, then I support that.

    I think a lot of Lin fans want what may not be attainable. You are looking for him to be a starter and if he does, will it be on a joke of a team that has a Laker-like record? That would not be good. I’d rather see him contribute significantly to a winner. Just because I don’t see it as you do doesn’t mean I don’t support him. That’s not fair. I support him. But I don’t need him to start. I think he can still be a great Lin getting 24-28 minutes and solidify his place in the NBA that way.

  • jeremy

    Delly distributes the ball better than Lin so is his defense
    Lin is a better scorer than him but he hasnt done that in a while he lost quite a bit
    and Cle is doing great the way they are now
    Lin really doesnt fit in that team

  • bolero
  • sws94

    How can he not have trust in Lin when he brings him back in so many games to close? He won’t always close, but he’s closed more than any other player not named Batum or Kemba.

  • LinMad

    Heat is just a really good interior D team. Lin had trouble driving in today cause that particular team is good at defending inside. We killed them by moving the ball around the perimeter.

  • blaznazn22

    cmon dude..delly distributes better than lin?? Distributes to who..to lebron 95% of the time? What happened last time when cavs faced against hornets and jeremy lin. Lin shutdown delly, scored like 7 points in 13 minutes off the bench, locked down their entire defense too. After he was subbed out, Cavs fought their way back in. Lin>>Delly, and I actually like delly so nothing against him.

  • kjch
  • leeda harun

    oh please not to sixers. Not when hinkie is gm….absolutely no….loloh

  • sws94

    You have to go with the best 5 and showcase the best producers. Lillard is amazingly clutch and LMA can put up huge points as the focal point of the team. Batum was a big contributor, but here, Batum has found that great combo at least for now.

  • sws94

    I think Lin is a far superior player to Delly. And Delly also resorts to wrestling guys, not playing BB when things don’t go his way. Lin’s facilitation is way better than Delly’s.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Like Batum last year in Portland, he’s lousy performance. But in Hornets, they set up the game plan & cater everything for him to do well…. Like today’s tri-double… LOL! That really means nothing to me bc they set up for him since he took less shots today. If you have the ball in your hand, you can really easy to get AS plus if you are the one who gets Reb most of the time…. that’s how easy you can get tri-double on purpose like today. (Hornets did that for him in the past 3 games.) Lance got the most tri-double in his contract year but what about him now?

  • sws94

    That’s the standard definition of star.

    My comparison of assists say that Kemba has the better number, not that he is the better assist producer. I think Kemba is poor at getting assists compared to Lin. Lin’s assists are usually more skilled. Kemba throws the ball to MW, MW knocks down his 3s, Kemba gets an assist. Lin draws defenders and passes out of traps on dribble-drives and gets an assist. It’s much more difficult. Most of Kemba’s assists are easier, but to say Kemba doesn’t pass and just shoots isn’t right. Kemba is passing more, it’s just not the best part of his game.

    Lin chose this team and he’s working more at seeing where this team can use his skills but realizes, Batum is great at facilitating also. Lin is still in feeling out mode.

  • sws94

    So Batum has no skills, it’s just that he gets the ball because he’s coach’s pet. That’s essentially what you are saying. Batum has earned every right to be first facilitator on this team. He’s played that well. Even with the TOs, Batum has shown great basketball IQ and solid court vision in his role as facilitator.

  • heart

    That’s good too.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think Lin is developing in this team at all as PG. They ask him to be SG most of the time. They are training him for good D only. Consider that’s one good thing came out from this team.

  • sws94

    Kemba has said why. Adding Batum, adding Lin, has helped make his job easier. He doesn’t have to force shots as he did and can be more efficient. He’s really only had one horrible game I can remember when he shot terribly. The GSW game. Otherwise, he’s been pretty efficient. And Batum and LIn help him space the floor and get the ball in positions to get good shots or make better passes. Kemba has been there a long time, he seems easy to coach. The team is trying to reward him and the ASG is in Charlotte.

  • sws94

    According to stats, its 52/48 SG vs. PG.

  • CJSHYY

    Stats not really tell the whole story… The time he really can be PG only from the beginning of 2Q. (That’s the only time w/o Kemba & Batum)

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t say he’s no skill but if not for coach to set up for him he wouldn’t have the stats he got today. Check his last year’s stats from Portland. If they think that high on him he would not be traded to Hornets.

  • occupatio

    youre missing the pt. consistent production comes from consistent options available to the player. those options are not available to you if you only get the leftovers as lin does when kemba is on the floor.

    kemba — like anyone who is a decent player — can produce because he gets consistent range of choices throughout the game and can therefore consistently choose what is advantageous to him.

    for example, if lin gets the outlet from defensive rebounds, he can probe to see if you can a transition basket or assist available.if there are no good opportunities, then he can pass it to other players or set the half-court offense. but the point is, he got first dibs at the easy opportunities. consistent production comes from constantly getting first dibs, taking the good opportunities and foregoing the bad situations. kemba gets all those consistent opportunities, while lin does not.

    another example, if you have the ball, and they run picks for you, you get first dibs at layups and assist opportunities and if the opportunities are not there, you have the choice to do something else, like pass the ball to someone else. getting constant picks means you get to CHOOSE from a set of options and take the best ones and give others the lesser opportunities.

    if your role, like lin so often, is to just do catch and shoot, then you dont get first dibs. you just leftovers. no one can produce consistently without a consistent ‘menu’ of options available to take advantage of.

    so its not just about minutes or touches, but about being the guy who gets first dibs, who has the biggest menu of options. good players that get many chances at looking at the ‘menu’ produce consistently. if youre just a spot up shooter or there to make cuts, the menu is limited and you cannot decide to look at the menu whenever you want.

  • sws94

    Coach recognized the skill and this team is good for him to do it in. But he really has the skill. Nic is better on the Hornets than Portland because it is a better fit for him. Charlotte, due to lack of Lin type of players, PnR big man like Davis being central, isn’t as good for him. With Davis, Lin would have way better numbers. Cody Zeller is Batum’s Davis. Nic’s assists numbers are up due to Al not being in vs. Cody.

  • CJSHYY

    They said not this year- AGS in Hornets.

  • sws94

    I get it totally what you’re saying. But, Lin does more than spot up and shoot. He’s that load up on Kemba and Batum guy that then emerges. That is your definition of leftovers. Yes, that is what he’s getting. What Lin is trying to figure out is how much more can he do.

    I’m against saying Kemba doesn’t pass at all. He does. He’s a shoot first PG but so is Irving, Westbrook and other “PGs”. He’s that type but not as skilled. But they all get assists too because their shooting opens up their getting balls to others. They are also very ball dominant.

  • CJSHYY

    Well said. consistent production comes from consistent options available to the player.

    Why Lin couldn’t get good stats bc he didn’t have the same playing time like Batum & Kemba. Also didn’t have the same amount of shooting # like them to catch up bad shooting night.

  • Spot

    We must pray something happens in Philly…

  • james brown

    other than he score before , his efficiency were not that good, thats why many here were asking why he shoots when he’s not making it, so in terms of efficiency, it needs to be seen. Both KW and Batum shoots alot and their efficiency were not evident except on some few games, but generally, they are not efficient and TO was atrocious at times expecially Batum…

    well people tend to forget easily and sees only whats present, so right now, KW and Batum Efficiency are at best (this game i accept).

    If JLIN helped KW and Batum more, why not make him a starter because his defense warrants it. but no because PJ is better? (according to cliff?) why not reward Jlin also on this aspects of plays making great basketball? coach needs to see everybody and not only 2 or 3 players isn’t it?

    another question (not post for you but generally) the reason why JLIN is on the Bench was because he makes the Bench BETTER, so cliff reluctant to make him a starter? but now it seems the making the bench better is no longer being asked thats why after making the bench better and making the starters seems the bench, cliff now plant KW or Batum in the second unit for what reason again? isn’t it the Bench is already BETTER with JLIN running it?

    LOL!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    What’s going on?

  • james brown

    its happening NOW..changes will be forthcoming!!!

  • james brown

    hired somebody will overhaul the system in Philly..no one will be spared even FO!

  • occupatio

    what i just said in my wordy write-up has nothing to do with how often kemba passes. i dont think we are actually in the same conversation.

  • CJSHYY

    Do you think they’re really going to fired the coach?

  • Spot

    Please God let them choose Jeremy and sacrifice Noel…

  • Spot

    Coach is good (remember what MCW did with the Sixers at PG). But they have to trade for Jeremy first.

    Anyway, if the Colangelos riunite and want to recreate what they did in Phoenix….

  • james brown

    not noel…he’s needed thgere come JLin time there..maybe will come next FA with all rookies intact..then there’s a chance the Jlin has work to do there..make the team competitive!

  • Warren
  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I really don’t like Kemba or Batum w Lin in 2nd unit? Bc why can’t just let Lin run O by himself along? These two already take enough shots why needs more playing time w 2nd unit?

  • Spot

    Noel and Okafor can’t play together.
    Embiid and Okafor can, in my opinion.
    Noel is on the trading block…

  • Rick Johnson

    Dwight for Al Jefferson?

  • james brown

    i like the way you assess the intricacies of where Jlin is coming from on this team. its a basketball analysis and it makes sense right now thats why i am not asking for any sort of consistent points with jeremy because of inconsistent role and “menu option” left for him.

    we are talking about Jeremy at this forum and we analyze his predicaments and we are not here because we follow KW or Batum, but talked about them because they are part on whats happening with him on the team.

    Batum do play selfishly sometimes but comes back when he commits 3 to 4 mistakes and try to play team ball there after. KW seems playing with agenda..He’s passing i know, but other than this game and few games before, he pass only when he’s in a bind. i saw also that on every games 2 to 4 possession on the entirety, he let Jlin facilitates, which maybe is a good sign or a bad sign, depends on whose looking at it.

    I still do believe that Batum and KW are the CATERED player and the rest are role players in the eys of Coach Cliff…but still waiting that time will come it will change and for the resove of Jeremy’s development with this team

  • Warren

    that is whenever Embiid CAN play.

  • james brown

    good trade..i take it immediately!!!LOL

  • CJSHYY

    I like the NYK one & Hornets Mohawk. Hate the new one the most. LOL!

  • Warren

    doubt rockets would settle for that. Jefferson is a solid scorer but terrible defender. Rockets will be looking for DeAndre, Drummond, Cousins or Whiteside.

  • CJSHYY

    I thought Lakers wants Cousins?

  • sws94

    Problem is, Lin doesn’t play in a vacuum. He plays with KW and Batum as part of that team. That’s how he’ll have to produce until his situation changes.

    Batum and KW are considered to be higher placed players than Lin whether we like it or not or agree with it or not. That’s the reality I make my comments on, not what I’d like it to be.

    The other problem is Lin is team-oriented, not self and stat oriented. So, in a player that doesn’t show the latter trait, it is anything other than frustrating to keep wanting him to more serve his stats?

  • sport

    Agree NYK and Mohawk with nice. this new one looks too weird in the front and has way too much gel.

  • Linja

    My father at young age of 20’s, went to Nanking from Taiwan, wearing three-piece suit & tie and a pancake hat, and white shoes, doing business. He was called “Fake Foreign Ghost” by the natives with long braded pony tail in the back and a shaved front and sides. Ha

  • james brown

    better than dwight??? well they are settling for capella now, so alJeff seems better than Howard if they are trading him now.

  • sport

    Hope they rehire MDA that would be the best!

  • james brown

    it will heal for the chemistry solution by Jeremy when he’s there..LOL!

  • Spot

    Yep 🙂

  • jeremy

    They have Lebron and Irving to facilitate Lin is not needed there
    They need a delly to do the dirty work

  • sport

    Lin + Dwight to reunite? sounds good to me. This is assuming that Dwight will ask for Lin to start!

  • Spot

    Agree 🙂

  • jeremy

    Delly has more assists than Lin
    but Lin scores better imo
    Any team would take Lin over delly prolly thou

  • Warren

    too much gel not good for hair roots 🙂

  • spiderman

    Dwight is not good for a team

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think Rox already picked Capella to replace for D12 … if he leaves…. I heard they said even now Capella is just a backup…(he starts sometimes…) but I can see him to starts for this league …..

  • CJSHYY

    I also think that’s possible for next summer….

  • james brown

    that’s why i have no expectation because i know whats happening and what i hope now is the things ‘TO COME” and that will be a REALITY too if it happened not so much that its what i wanted too!! ..
    and i am not delusional to say that even with the catered player he will break out..but i am hoping that after they signed Batum, things will change and will now focus on Jlin and there , changes will come.

    Jlin is a team player that’s what i like about him, but it doesn’t mean he has no wishes too. real as the sense of the word, he’s real and wants to help also on offense, as it is frustrating to some fans, much more maybe with Lin.

  • jeremy

    Al Jeff will be useless over there
    the rox need a rim protector
    D Jordan is perfect for them

  • kjch

    Yup Mohawk looked great, I never understood why people were making a fuss. But this new hairstyle……..

  • jeremy

    They are trying to lose
    even if Lin goes Linsanity they are still an awful team
    better a back up on a good team than a star on a losing team
    rememebr evan turner? lol

  • spiderman

    I’d speculate that Lins new hairstyle had negatively affected his shooting tonight.

  • zxcvb

    Hinkie is good as gone next year, but they seem committed to Brett Brown, who’s a smart coach from the Spurs system. He was one of the only coaches who praised Lin last season (Brown,Clifford and Stevens).

    I honestly believe that MDA and Lin will reunite next season if at all possible. With the Nets as a major possibility.

  • I like Baby Lin’s style a little better, like Gangland Boss-style
    Maybe it will be thicker on the top

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/674828295813271552

  • sport

    Joe Lin’s man bun looks way cooler. Lin should use less gel and give his hair more volume!

  • Rick Johnson

    Anybody know how Memphis has been? Looks like they’ve lost to Cav’s, GSW, Nets, Port, Jaz, LAC, Spurs, ATL, OKC,

  • james brown

    like it you already knew JLIN’s future with the words “WILL NEVER”..so much positivism there?

  • sport

    Same here, hope after such horrible team like the Rockets, Dwight will finally be willing to play PnR and appreciate a PG like Lin instead of insisting on doing old style post moves that he’s not good at.

  • james brown

    i either don’t get it when one compare JLIN with another PG who has More PT and higher usage rate and expects him to gathered stats in the process

  • spiderman

    Houston cut was good. Mohawk started to catch on, then BAM, new style!

  • sport

    Not if Lin’s the star of the team and making everyone play teamball! Linsanity was also a bunch of bench players minus Tyson Chandler. Lin just needs the key to a team as PG and teammates willing to play team ball.

  • occupatio

    i dont mind the shape but it just looks so greasy. a big greasy clump.

  • I agree, too much gel IMO

    I want it to look like this (refresh)

  • sws94

    It’s not what you said specifically. It’s something said here often. That Kemba has no passing game at all, doesn’t pass to others. That’s not true.

  • I think spikey Mohawk & greasy Shaolin-style have 1 thing in common:
    make defenders afraid to touch them =)

  • occupatio

    this might sound strange but i never noticed how short lin’s forehead is until looking at this picture.

  • james brown

    well he’s defining the reason why KW plays with Lin and JLIN needs to accepts that it his reality right now…

    JLIN has ans some followers and me too accepts it as hard as it could be not because it will be the norm, but because theres no option right now but to play and play with the opportunity thats in front of him..I can’t even compare KW to Jlin now, because they are in different situation with both same position. Kemba as Catered and JLIn as role player..so role player will have lower stat line and catered will excel..

    unfortunately, even with limited minutes before, Lin had shown he can best KW if given little room to worked on that why now, KW will be with JLIN or Batum will be there.

    so far Batum works best with JLIN and KW works best with JLIN but you can’t say vice versa….with Batum maybe.

  • sport

    Still the man bun was too flat should spike it higher!

  • occupatio

    i saw this on reddit. i think its relevant to your question.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3w37eb/whats_up_with_memphis_being_solid_but_also/

  • jeremy

    Not bad still good defense
    Offense is a bit messy they phase out Conley too much sometimes
    He passes the ball and a lot of the time it doesnt come back he stands on the corner a lot too
    Gasol isnt as effective as last yeat but still demands touches
    Zbo keeps shooting
    Lee Green meh inconsistent
    Barnes works hard
    Chalmers doing pretty well actually
    basically they are not featuring Conley a lot
    they cud be better

  • jeremy

    nobodys gonna buy in
    the org is trying to lose

  • occupatio

    i dont see why you reply to my post by saying something irrelevant to the discussion.

  • james brown

    watch the game sir…he only pass to Batum and Al and sometimes to MW..thats why his assist was so low compared to the time JLIN PT..almost equal with more minutes KW plays…you already said KW has less skill in passing and he’s a shooting first PG.

    Traditionally, PG facilitates, but kW facilitates first to himself and if he’s in a bind pass or commit TO.

    Let’s accept that because even old time hornets fans knew about his assist and facilitation, so no need to exposed it becauuse it was well documented already..AGAIN, except this last game, He did REALLY PASS the BALL…that’s why even Jlin didn’t pad his stats (no chance) i enjoyed the win because it was a”TEAM WIN”

  • Interesting, it’s the players who prefer the slow-pace since they’re so used to it

    They’re gonna get wrecked by the Hornets RunNGun style

    -50 point loss to GSW
    -37 point loss to OKC last night
    -30 point loss to CLE
    -20 point loss to SAS
    -19 point loss to POR

    This isn’t true at all. Dave Joerger has tried to implement more pace into the offense every year he’s been the head coach and the players have revolted against it every time. It’s the players more than the fans or coach who want to stick with the slow-paced ground and pound style. Earlier in the season Mike Conley tried to explain away our struggles by saying we were “playing too fast” and needed “to get back to doing what we do.” We were 27th in the league in pace at the time. Last year it was Tony Allen publicly complaining about the new sets.

    The players will be the last ones to doubt their style. Everyone else – including Dave Joerger – has been doubting it for years. I’m sure there’s a lot going on internally. But doubts about their style of play is not behind the struggles.

  • leeda harun

    i like this style lol

  • occupatio

    basically, memphis is like hornets stuck in the Al Jefferson era but with no shooters.

  • occupatio

    it should be noted that chalmers recently joined them in the middle of the season. i think he makes their team much better. at least more modern.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes that was what I was thinking. They look like they can’t handle fast, good ball movement teams that shoot 3’s.

  • and they’ll meet the Grizz twice in the next 10 gms!

  • and they wanted to sign JLin cheaply
    Good thing JLin declined, such a contrast in style

  • JLin needs to copy the look, too lol

  • occupatio

    if you are losing the game, its hard to make a comeback without 3s and more pace.

    old hornets fans would say that when they were down by 10 pts, it would be nearly impossible to make a comeback. thats because they didnt have enough perimeter shooting before.

  • Whitman Lam

    Anybody else notice that Wade shoved Lin to the ground in midair as Lin shot a 3 pointer in the 3rd quarter? Announcers only said Wade got an easy fast break layup at the other end because “Lin just fell down”.

  • occupatio

    hrm, i smell a blowout.

  • occupatio

    wade is a dirty player.

  • Whitman Lam

    Because the refs let him get away with it.

  • james brown

    then why it didn’t happened with his previous team portland?

    all players having “skills” when catered can be an all star player..and that’s a fact. Look at melo, catered with good statsline (but can’t carry the team to a championship)..look at harden now, they chose Harden over Jlin, (and see what’s a mess the team has been), but stats wise harden is still ok…

    and let’s see the time when JLIN was CATERED..only in NYK..he did fine with his stats, but look at what happened with the team and his teammates, winning and happier than ever

  • occupatio

    and hes a jerk with an endless sense of entitlement.

  • james brown

    who says that i want him to be useful there, all i’m saying is Dwight will be USEFUL here at the hornets!

  • james brown

    it means , jlin can’t play defense onthat occassion thats why wade was able to break away with a fast break? but what happened to other players who also needs to play defense and safety? if one guard shoots the ball, the other guard needs to be the safety isn’t it?

  • adele

    But easy for an opponent to pull it down.

  • Guest

    Send the clip to NBA. Tweet to NBA.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Any time you can hold a team like Miami below 20 points in 3 straight Qs, it will be a feat by its own right. This is possibly the worst game that Miami has played for the season.

  • Dan Cohen

    talking about his new hair.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Again,I’m so late to the victory party, but congrats to Jeremy. I like his pacing this game, how beautiful it is against Miami Heat…

    Except probably the hair. I like the spiky, “Akira Sendoh” hairstyle better than the short ponytail.

  • Guest

    The hair got MJ attention, that what’s count

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Sure. With the exception of Kobe (thanks to Shaq and Pau), those players you mentioned are either still waiting or retired without the ultimate goal of an NBA players – a championship ring.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    So far, my preference is important to myself. That’s what I meant by that post.

  • KHuang

    Lin is EXACTLY the player that Memphis needed to lead their team.

  • Guest

    He might read your post and go back to spiky hair:)

  • Brewkowski

    Can’t ball with that. Not intimidating enough. Maybe for Parsons. lol

  • Dan Cohen

    can also be that heat has an off night.

  • jlim7

    Gel is Jeremy’s defense. Opponents who touch his hair will risk turnover, due to cannot hold ball properly.

  • Yascar

    Oh please let it happen! I really don’t like this new look.

  • Guest

    I really don’t like most of your posts.
    Honestly, I don’t come here as often because of your frequent posts to justify the favoritism that Walker and Batum enjoy.

  • Guest

    His hair makes him looks like Manchu. I still prefer his spiky hair.

  • stevesmithisgawd

    You guys are hella selfish on this forum Lin is not a All Star caliber player smh Im a lin fan to.

  • Hope

    Lin is super star.

  • Dan Cohen

    so you happy if he gets 2 ppg and 2 assist in 30 minutes, right? I will not be because that doesn’t warrant much to keep watching. We watch him becasue of the breakout of linsanity. It’s fun to watch.

  • Dan Cohen

    and still hope there is one day linsanity again, but I doubt it..unless all circumstances fall into play ..again.

  • Dan Cohen

    and btw when I say linsanity again, I mean 20 and 10 AND WINNING …even thought I hated that word if used by others.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s what I am happy for Lin & also worry about it….They finally played team ball as Lin wish but…..???

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674771805161279488

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674772230484729859

  • Spot

    Neither Kemba, Batum, Al & co.

    But Kemba, Batum and Al are treated like ones. Jeremy, not.

  • kjch

    You’re like a Konoha ninja doubting Naruto is of Hokage calibre… If this made any sense lol

  • Dan Cohen

    lol.. you know something.. I might as well not watch.. i always end up watching 2nd half..and he didn’t do jack 2nd half for couple of game already…but reading play by play in the first half made me watch.

  • jlim7

    It is just normal for player’s fans to hope the player to start, or to have more FGA or to have more minutes. If Hornets cannot give that to Lin, what is wrong with hoping Lin move to other team which can give that.

    You are not happy with what Lin’s fans said, only if you are not Lin’s fan, but instead team’s fan who selfishly hopes Lin stays there as bench so the team can have no 1 bench or a fan of other player who will be demoted if Lin become the starter.

    We instead say it is not up to you or the team’s fans or Lin’s fans, but it is up to other teams’ GM and coaches. It only needs 1 team who believes in Lin. If Hornets cannot give Lin that, we believe there will be a team next year who wants to give Lin a chance. After all, It is just a business decision for NBA team and there is no such thing as All Star materials, except for handful HOFs, all other All Stars are manufactured ones that were produced by business decision.

  • CJSHYY

    Just found out. D12 took almost the same # of shots like Lin last night. 1-4 for 4 pts?! But on the other hand, Harden was13/23 w 12 FT?? Harden is more & more like Kobe now…

  • heart

    Come on now…Last night Lin had 19:50 minutes recorded on the books. But during the first half or most of those ‘limited’ times, he didn’t have much control of the ball or set plays or screens for him. And we all know he said that he’s tweaking his shooting style. What do you expect? I’m not making excuse for Lin. We all want him to do well, but we also have to take into consideration the circumstances that he’s currently in. Hornets and some Lin fans expect All-Star production from Lin, but Hornets are treating Lin as a 2M ‘backup’ player? What that means is they expect perfect production and shooting from Lin w/o even one miss in a game given the limited minutes? I don’t know if any NBA player could or had ever done that in the history of NBA basketball? Lin can do well eventually once he’s adjusted, but he is not Hornets priority or focal point! According to Adi Joseph’s recent article, Lin is still learning to fit his game w/Hornets playing style/teammates, and Cliff is a prescript game planner, (inflexible and micro-manager, IMO). At current, he is still learning Lin’s game by watching what Lin can do on-court according to the article. Make your own conclusion about the promises made to Lin.

  • Acbc

    Politics follows Lin every where. I don’t fret about it. Lin is too smart to be used by anyone without his knowledge. He’s in Charlotte fully eyes wide open because he’s getting enough out of the situation to go forward. Already he’s changing the narrative that he’s a weak defender. It’s not an equivalent exchange but Lin is using them to further his own destiny as well.
    Ultimately Charlette is shooting themselves in the foot by not taking advantage of all they can get out of Lin. By using Lin to shine up Walker and kiss up to Batum, lin becomes a one year rental that will have immediate impact on this team. By not using Lin as PG on the second unit, coach Lin can’t teach the youngsters how to play properly in a system. Every team Lin’s been on has benefitted from coach Lin’s patterns of play. Unfortunately for Hornets they will not get the full benefit of his input. Knicks and Rox held onto for a year. Hornets will revert even more quickly as all teams have when they deliberately suppress Lin.
    The joke will be on Hornets if this politically driven way continues much longer. There is obviously no meritocracy to who gets to lead and who gets the ball in hand right now. My only hope is that a trade or Allstar push is at work. However, it’s still a weak excuse for what’s happening.

    What comforts me is that Lin’s role as glue guy will come back to haunt the Hornets. Think of Lin as being subversively disruptive to the team by being so important to them without anyone noticing it. It’s only when Lin leaves will the gaping hole of his absence be felt. All too late of course just like every team that has let him go, they will regrets losing him. Lin makes them pay for their ignorance by being too good to them. Lol

  • sws94

    Hornets aren’t treating Lin like a $2M backup player. His role is much bigger than any $2M backup player in the league. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Lin played within the game. Dragic and Reggie Jackson had bad games against the Hornets. They happen to players. Lin didn’t have to score much and played within the game and really, he is much more respected on the Hornets than he was on the Rockets and Lakers.

  • jeremy

    Politics is every where
    A lot of people are affected by it lol

  • jeremy

    No, Kobe would go 2 for 20
    Harden makes shots and he distributes the ball well
    He almost had a triple double

  • jeremy

    Lol this is the NBA
    Wade has been doing this kind of stuff for years
    He’s one of the best for a reason
    Dirty plays here and there
    its not even a big deal

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    from Acbc:

    It’s only when Lin leaves will the gaping hole of his absence be felt. All too late of course just like every team that has let him go, they will regrets losing him. Lin makes them pay for their ignorance by being too good to them.

  • jeremy

    So were MJ, Pippen, John Stockton(you think the all time steals leader got all those steals w/o being dirty?), Isiah Thomas and all other Legends.
    If you aint dirty, you aint even trying

  • jeremy

    so HOF, yep

  • jeremy

    John Stockton never got a ring, is he miserable? was he selfish?
    Not playing iso doesnt guarantee you a ring.
    and AI went to the NBA finals with a subpar team
    AI is a legend he changed the game, the players now all grew up admiring him. It’s not always about the ring,

  • jeremy

    Then why would the rockets do the deal that only helps the hornets

  • jeremy

    Not hard to tell

  • heart

    To answer post above: Lin is not even the 6th man rotation on this Hornets team and most of the time Lin has had the least minutes in a game. Contrary to the ‘promised made’, Lin has not been able to play his brand of basketball. Lin’s role and minutes have been jerked around to benefit the core players. Hornets are taking advantage of Lin’s talents knowing that he’s worth more than 2M. So, yes, they’re treating him as a 2M ‘backup’. Their actions speak of their intention, not their words.

  • CJSHYY

    Younger vision of Kobe.

  • jeremy

    Younger Kobe was more athletic was more like westbrook than Harden

  • CJSHYY

    Shots # made not the athletic.

  • CJSHYY

    Well said- Hornets are taking advantage of Lin’s talents knowing that he’s worth more than 2M.

  • CJSHYY

    I am not happy bc Lin should get the credit for they played well w the team ball not “just jerked around to benefit the core players.”

  • heart

    Me too.

  • noob

    Not much you can say about how the Hornets are handling things. They are currently 2nd in the East. The results speak for themselves

  • jeremy

    what

  • xeroid

    I would disagree with your sentiment. We are not the coaches with all the information. The way I see it Jeremy may have a nagging injury with icing on his midsection as we can all seen. Batum has been doing a fantastic job managing the traffic, and Clifford might not have the need for Jeremy’s full use at present in offense. Walker may be overused at present, and as we can see Jeremy is doing fantastically in defense, as season wore on his worth will be more obvious. He maybe a rental, but I think they will value him and offer him a new contract at season end. Just as Batum will have a close to max contract later.

  • CJSHYY

    In Rox, if Harden didn’t play well w his ISO game then they used Lin’s team ball to win next & Lin would be the one to do it but not in Hornets… Ya! Got your idea but Batum & Kemba could do it for us. smh!

  • sws94

    Batum has been fantastic. He is the right choice on this team to do much of the facilitating. He’s done it better than Lin has. Lin’s combination of talent will help the team down the road, and he has some qualities Batum doesn’t have. But right now, Clifford has found a winning combination.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Very interesting highlight video, watch MJ in yellow/green jacket in far left corner.

    1) Lin made 1st 3, MJ Clapped hands enthusiastic.
    2) At 3:50, Lin made nice pass to wide open Hawes under basket but blew layup, MJ leaned back and crossed his arms express disappointment.
    3) No call on Wade hard fouled Lin caused him unbalanced landing. Ref was right there.

  • CJSHYY

    The way I see from this team, Lin is not use for PG duty more like PB for this team only – D & take few shots per game. At least for now.

  • heart

    Right now KW & NB are benefiting from many offense options around them and will get all the glory of any wins. They have the comfort and ease knowing that they have consistent minutes, role, mgmt/coach support, and the help of strong 2nd unit which can keep Hornets in the game. Confidence and support do translate to on-court performance. On the other hand, Cliff has not once allowed Lin to have complete control of 2nd unit. Either KW or NB or both are in at the same time w/Lin in the 2nd unit. And each time, they would control the ball, not Lin. So yes, Hornets have many offense options, contrary to Rox. Rox had to rely on Lin and Lin was able showcase his talents then.

  • CaliUSMC

    Lol. When I first watched this video- I was paying really close attention to MJ. He seems to really enjoy watching Lin play. My dude just needs more mins mayn.

  • sws94

    Not at all. Beverley doesn’t dribble/drive penetrate to set up team mates. In the highlights you saw plenty of that from Lin. In fact, Lin doesn’t even take that many 3s. Lin will be used, in time, for a period of time to make shots and plays even when on the court with Kemba. It’s not the limited role of Beverley who has very limited offensive skills.

  • CJSHYY

    They need Lin bc it’s him to turn this team around w his team ball idea. Even not show from his stats… that’s why MJ was warm w Lin after the game… just not sure how long this progress for Lin to be more in O will take…. ? But as long as Kemba will not share the ball duty w Lin it’s not going to happen…

  • sws94

    Batum shares the team ball concept with Lin, just does it a little differently. Kemba is designated as ball handler whenever he is in. Then Batum can facilitate and Batum is involving Lin more.

  • PETE B

    Team importance rank for hornets players
    Nic
    Al / Kemba
    Zeller
    Lin
    Williams
    Lamb
    Frank
    Hawes
    PJ
    Hansboro
    B rob
    A Harrison

  • CJSHYY

    Batum is not the problem. Kemba is bc they both are PGs & Kemba just don’t want Lin to handle the ball as long as he’s w Lin. I guess Lin never thought this will happen when he signed w this team … bc coach said Yes then everything should be fine? Too bad, more than that….

  • DX

    Is this your own rank?

  • CJSHYY

    He will be out of Lakers w Kobe at the same time.

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674993152722268160

  • sws94

    I don’t know if it that Kemba doesn’t want to share the ball more than Kemba is used to playing a certain way and that comes out. According to long-time Hornets fans, Kemba is sharing the ball a lot more than he used to. But that doesn’t mean he will as much as other team members.

  • blubell

    What is there to evaluate…

  • CJSHYY

    He’s fine w Lin in the beginning (he said Lin is here to help us win… that’s the plan Lin came here for one year to play his game only) But since Hornets show that video about Lin find home w Hornets…. Kemba sure feel the pressure & competition from Lin bc Hornets wants to keep Lin…. From the way Kemba plays w Lin on court now… NO way he will share the ball duty w Lin…

  • kjch

    If you’re ranking from FO’s perspective, I would move frank to above Lin. It’s interesting to note that for the past two games, the players with the most minutes excluding batum have been kemba, frank and cody (KFC 🙂 ). And guess what, KFC are all sponsored by the Jordan brand. Perhaps FO are more involved than we previously thought. Usually I only check Lin’s minutes so I only noticed this recently. Anyway, I shall start paying more attention to this, especially when AL returns. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if batum signs with air Jordan in the future whenever his current sponsorship deal expires.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Listened to Coach Clifford’s post-game interview from yesterday’s game. He is distinguishable from both McHale and Scott in that Coach Clifford’s responses and explanations contained a lot of details and observations not only about his own players but also about other players too. I’m not a basketball guru by any means but Clifford appears to be more cerebral and analytical than Scott and McHale. JLin is a smart basketball player – if he trusts Clifford then I will trust Clifford. JLlin is in the ring with the coach. The team is playing really well, I must say.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! How bad BS was….Let’s pick the worst game from the this year. LOL!

  • sws94

    The last 2 games were blowouts where Frank played garbage minutes to get experience.

  • if Byron is still the right baby-sitter when Kobe wants to mount another comeback =)

    #NeverSayNever #LetTheCircusGoOn

  • sws94

    I agree. Lin finally has a qualified, smart coach in Clifford. And Clifford is positive about players, he always talks about their positive attributes, not their weaknesses.

  • heart

    Yep. As long as Kobe stays, BS stays. Once Kobe leaves, BS leaves. No more excuses. I think Kobe and BS fate are tied together.

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly. They are one.

  • kjch

    Good point. So I’m waiting for more games

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Evaluate is the nicest way to say you will be fired. But for now the damage is just so great under your coaching, no one and nothing can possibly turn it around.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He’s finally done something right in the past 3 games. Have Lin in early and play him at least 10 min before taking him out. Hope this will continue in the right direction.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You have to be super confident to take time to prepare your hair before game. That’s a mind of a warrior.

  • JoeTeam

    Amazing times, wish I had time to learn more history. Thanks for sharing.

  • JoeTeam

    I get the asterisk thing. I personally want LAL given their present dysfunction to lose that record, as it looks like they sold out the sport and it must hurt the players that helped to build that refutation. Rome fell, and so will LAL and GSW later too. People sell out. Go Jan 4! May JLin play great over 20 pts, and LAL’s record fall 🙂

  • adele

    I can sense Lin is not happy and just making the most of the situation. Last night when I was watching the game, I felt sick to my stomach listening to the announcers about Kemba comparing to Curry, Westbrook and other all star pg and they are openly promoting Kemba for the all star. Sigh…

  • adele

    I know…almost everybody are content and happy with this Hornets team just because they are winning, but for some reason, I’m not. Im Lin fan. Not a Hornets fan. I follow Lin every team he goes. I don’t need to like the team.

  • JoeTeam

    adele, take solace in knowing that when Lin is on the big stage, he will perform. They only got there in Rox for fleeting moments, and Lin played great against Portland. He was not able to play in post-season for NYK, and he was injured by Sefalosha on their first Rox playoffs. For me, I’m looking for him to keep improving, stay healthy, and let’s see how March April shakes out. If they can get to playoffs and go 2 deep, that’s the deepest he’s every been and not bad for early mid-career.

    The opposite is ending his season in April and with nothing but a bad taste, like last year for LAL

  • Rick Johnson

    Basketball Reference
    ‏@bball_ref
    The @Hornets’ best 2-man combination (min 70 minutes)? Frank the Tank and Big Handsome http://bkref.com/tiny/1L5Rp
    https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/675010896935129088

  • JoeTeam

    if Steph gets a lifetime contract, so should Lin because you know he’s going to do good and be in the press in positive ways for a long time to come.

  • JoeTeam

    The hair is a change, which is good. I wonder where it’s headed in 2 mos …

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    Williams shot really well last night.

  • Rick Johnson

    But notice Lin makes everyone better as c/w Walker.

  • LAJane

    I agree with both of you – about FO priorities and the possibility that they do see Lin as short term benefit, but I also agree that (imho) Lin is being carefully used because of what I believe is a nagging back problem. All we can do it the moment is speculate about how the plot will thicken (to use one of Joyce Ward’s favorite phrases).

  • adele

    I understand what you mean. Im just expressing my sentiments about Lin being supressed with his shining moments because the Hornets have already anointed their stars not named Lin. Deep in my heart, I really want Lin to shine in his chosen field. And I know it’s not in this team.

  • Our friend, Greg, from @sportige made great observation @JLin7 great D is due to being stronger physically so it improved his ability to stay with plays.

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/675037178146197504

  • Briiick

    Don’t see Walker in the top 19 combinations.

  • sws94

    He’ll have shining moments on this team. He already has. I think more. I’m not sure if a really great situation where Lin can be maximized will happen. Seems like it could have been Dallas but D Jordan messed that up. NBA has a way of looking for other starting PGs and liking Lin an energy/hustle and now defense guy off of the bench.

  • Rick Johnson

    If you click the link you will see the entire 39 listed. Walkers are all mostly below 20.

  • sws94

    Nagging something. That explosiveness to beat guys off of the dribble isn’t there and even in the dribbling warmups he seemed more curved rather than upright in his back. It’s not his mileage, although he has some I don’t think that’s it. There’s something physically not optimum about him now.

  • Nathan had the right concern that JLin grimaced while doing this drill.
    Along with flying acupuncturist from Taiwan, I’d say we have a valid concern that his back or something else is bothering JLin and his shots.

    I thought JLin shot very well early in games then went cold towards the 2nd half is just being out for too long; but this video & Mr. Luo coming from Taiwan makes me think otherwise.

    Better pray hard for JLin to get well quickly

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674986644492173312
    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/674739487830843393

  • CJSHYY

    Anyone knows Master Lo still w Lin in NC or not?

  • sws94

    That comparison wasn’t saying he is as good as them. He leads his team in categories like they do and that may make him an All-star candidate. Charlotte hasn’t had many on the team so they are excited about that. I don’t know why you don’t think Lin is happy. His communications sound like he’s at peace with his situation now.

  • Briiick

    Cliff is moving slowly toward what they did in the preseason after Curry exposed Walker badly. Lin is being used more correctly in the short PT allowed but I can still sense the containment of his stats to prevent him from outshining Walker and Batum.

  • DX

    NBA All-Star Voting 2016 begins today

    http://vote.nba.com/?iref=asv16_nbadrd&cid=asv16_nbadrd

  • adele

    Im sure some people here will vote for Kemba. 🙂

  • adele

    Good for you Clifford and the Hornets stars not named Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    Just vote. Thanks for the link. This year is different….

  • Briiick

    Khuang please designs the All Star teams for us to vote.

  • sws94

    Not to be harsh, but I think that’s invented. While Walker’s getting playing time, it’s not to keep Lin’s stats down. Clifford makes considerations for a deep team, he’s not trying to suppress a key player in my opinion. Any key player.

  • Linzen

    Bookmarked this. I will vote every single day… so, that should count for at least 39 votes!
    Therefore, it should take only 10,000 fans to reach 390,000 votes. Don’t tell me JLin don’t have that many devoted fans!

  • sws94

    I’m not going to vote for Lin because I don’t think he’s played like an all-star. The ASG is an exhibition game anyway. I don’t vote in these things and if I were it wouldn’t be for anyone on the Hornets.

  • Briiick

    Count me on ! I will vote for Lin every day. My All Star teams won’t have any stat padders.

  • sws94

    Also, if Kobe is anywhere near the ASG it would show just how much of a joke he is. He’s a former all-star but a horrible player now, but individually and as a team player.

  • Linzen

    Awesome! Only 9998 to go! 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    Me too even I don’t think he will make it but needs to show support & hope he gets more votes than last year. That’s the goal. LOL!

  • new thread

    Jeremy Lin Samurai Bun Hairstyle, Injury Concern and All-Star Voting
    http://www.jlinportal.com/jeremy-lin-samurai-bun-hairstyle-injury-concern-and-all-star-voting/

    Jeremy Lin sported new Samurai-Bun hairstyle (credit to @wukong) & contributed with 5pts/2asts in a Hornets blowout against an outmatched Heat team. https://twitter.com/hornets/status/674739487830843393

    He started well with 2-2 shooting then missed 2 3-point shots (one which DWade’s foul was not called by the referee). But he curiously missed 2 FTs, upon which he rested on the bench. Is there an injury concern?

    Nathan Gottlieb made a good observation in that same video above that JLin grimaced when doing ball-handling drill, which is not normal. Along with an acupuncturist from Taiwan (Mr. Lo) who was flown from Taiwan, I’d say we have a valid concern that his back or something else has been bothering JLin and affected his shooting performance. https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674986644492173312

    NBA All-Star Voting has also started today

    https://twitter.com/NBAAllStar/status/675027546023530496

    Please don’t forget to donate to Jeremy Lin Foundation before Jan 3 for our fundraising effort

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/674637360282267648

  • Rick Johnson

    I’m voting for Steph Curry and Klay Thompson to make sure they get more votes than Kobe.

  • sws94

    They deserve it. I don’t see voting for players because we like them. If they play like all-stars, they deserve it. If not, they don’t. I don’t put Garnett or Kobe or others in there because they were former all-stars either.

  • heart

    Voted for Lin and Curry. Don’t care what Lin’s stats say!

  • Rick Johnson
  • Briiick

    Well said. One purpose of marginalizing Lin is to prevent his fans from voting for him for the All Star so that the other chosen players in his team would benefit comparably. Unfortunately some clueless fans buy into this stats manipulation.

  • sws94

    Why? They don’t play the same. Crawford is a chucker, Lin is a penetrator. Lin wouldn’t play much with Griffen if he went there and back to the LA media culture. No thank you.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Some might call me crazy but I can’t imagine how great it would be if Lin had Jordan as big man.

    Lin backup CP3, Rivers moves to 2 backup JJ.

  • heart

    You can vote up to 10 times a day. Twitter, Text, Team, Facebook, NBA.com login, NBA App, Instagram, etc.
    Here’s a link: http://www.nba.com/2015/news/12/10/2016-all-star-ballot-official-release/

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    20 mpg, 6 fga. Little chance to run as point to get assists, No thank you. If Lin is a backup be a backup for a real PG.

  • heart

    Exactly! It happens in Rox, Lakers and now Hornets!

  • heart

    What is the name of that cartoon caricature on the right? Lin asked what should he called this hair style? I can only described as ‘slick-bun’?

  • heart

    Yep, not if Hinkie is still there. Loser mentality/culture. It’s going to take a while to get the team out of that mind set.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Done.

  • Lin Win

    I would put Williams over Lin. He’s been doing a lot of 3pt shooting for us and a lot of clutch rebounding.

  • Acbc

    Something has changed and it has to do with the extention to Clifford’s contract, IMO. I am still willing to give Clifford a chance to live up to his words to Lin and I still keep up hope that he will after the trade deadlines and the all star selection. If Clifford doesn’t change the way he uses Lin, then I must abandoned all hopes that Lin will ever get a fair chance where he is now.

    From what I’ve seen of Clifford’s coaching so far this year I’ve accumulated enough evidence to establish some sense of his competency. The good is that Clifford doesn’t throw people under the bus like Lin’s past coaches. He likes what Lin brings and praise him accordingly. All the same, the little nagging things adds up to a resume of a coach that is good but not great at being forward thinking in the game. Clifford doesn’t think outside of the box and its this inability that he fails to recognize the potential Lin brings.

    As a coach, Clifford can’t compare with Pop for his management of egos and Playtime. This recent flu game with Walker is an example of that inadequacy. I’m not angry that Lin didn’t play much because the team did well. What I find disturbing is that he played Walker in garbage time and not utilize bench players to close out the game. There was 7 minutes left and Detroit could have made a charge. But what is also true is that this a game where a coach could gamble and win by putting bench players under fire and to temper their steel. Pistons were on a back to back so even with starters back in, their reserve energy was limited.

    A coach must push buttons to see who will rise to the occasion. A lot of times, players don’t even know their own potentials until they are put under the gun. A good coach must find ways to push players beyond their own perceived limits. What this showed to me is his inate distrust of second string players and favouritism to his stars. What is damning is that Clifford seems to want to micro manage the players to fit into his own schemes so that he can control their outputs to his own preconceived limits of that player. Phil Jackson said in one of his books that he likes to let the players sort things out for themselves on the court and would only intervene when absolutely necessary. MDA said in a interview during Linsanity that ” sometimes you just need to let them play.”

    Part of being a great coach is to be willing to take calculated risks for future benefits. A lost game in the beginning of the season isn’t that important if you learn a valuable lesson from it. Mchale’s short bench was because he couldn’t gamble on a loss. To him every win was important. Great coaches play the games like poker hands. They know winning only counts when it’s the right time to win. Just like in poker, you need to lose some to win the big ones. The trick is to lose them the right way. Losing a game early while teaching bench strength and creating clutch situations for your players to practice is a good gamble. When you take a chance on players, you gain confidence for them and playing experience, experience that adds up to competency I playoffs.

    I believe Lin wants to find a place for himself to be able to rise through the ranks by earning his way up within a merit systme.

  • PETE B

    yea I want to see what others think too
    i forgot troy Daniels below B Roberts

  • PETE B

    yea , Al has fallen off alot currently due to injury and suspesions and team success without him

  • PETE B

    yes from FO AND COACHING with respect to winning games not development , these ranks change.
    these are heiarchy of leadership and gameplan politics

  • kittyhead

    He already went back to TW b4 Tue via his FB.

  • LinMad

    they are also treating Frank really well too and he’s $2M and a rookie. But Frank really doesn’t have much competition on the team. Lin has Batum, Walker, Roberts and Daniels.

  • kittyhead

    No. ppl still remember who Austin River is? His father lets him handle the ball and play long time. Look at Lances treatment. Lin won’t get any fair chances over there

  • JoeTeam

    Yep for me too, I would like to see him get his negotiating numbers up by end of year, maybe have 2 rounds in playoffs doing meaningful things, and then move on to a fresh start that is his. He has it for life, I believe, for millions of people around the world who respect him as a person and as a pro athlete, so there is long term direction for what he wants to achieve. Short term in BBall, it’s about the next negotiations, I believe.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, and maybe that’s why Williams is emotionally with him whenever Lin gets his own.

  • blubell

    Who here dares to vote for Kemba! It’s JLin or nothing! lol.

  • adele

    Correct! Voters beware. ..

  • IsabeliJane*17

    I want you to tell that to a player’s face, that it’s not about the ring.

  • jeremy

    I dont have to because they know

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Uh huh, sure.. I would believe if you were actually Iverson or Stockton.

  • jeremy

    do they seem depressed? no
    you can ignore their acheivements despite not having a ring