G20 DET @CHA Notes & Observations

Jeremy Lin played well with 13pts/4a/3r/2s/1TO in 26 min He rested with 20pts lead (95-75) after 1 Linsensational acrobatic floater/shot. Hornets won 104-84 against the Pistons.

5-10 shooting, 2-4 FTs, +6

Notable points:

  • Lin looked to facilitate early in the game but found the balance between facilitating and scoring
  • Batum was setting up Lin’s wide-open 3pt with a great assist as he drove to the rim drawing 2 defenders.
  • The Pistons looked tired in the 2nd night of Back-To-Back game
  • These are 2 consecutive games where Lin actively looked for his shots with 9 and 10 FG attempts earning him 27 and 26 min of playing time. These are good shot attempts to earn him 25+ min

HIGHLIGHTS

MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 21 vs MIA
  • blubell

    1st

  • NONONO

    Good to see Lin smile. Not sure why Cliff insist playing half-ill Kemba for 24 mins.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • blubell
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  • Rick Johnson

    Til sunrise? He needs to get some sleep. Doing all nighter video games must mess up your biorhythm.

  • rookie75094

    Come on wizards…beat the heat and tragic

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • occupatio

    when lin is in as the third guard next to batum and kemba, he will rarely see the ball.

    when he is the exclusive playmaker next to lamb, they run many sets for lamb, so there really is not much dynamic reading-the-defense role for lin to play. tonight lamb shot 11 times, and often its just lin waiting for lamb to run around offball screens (which lamb isnt very good at doing, actually. he turns too slowly.)

    there are not enough pick and rolls for lin. its mostly setting up lamb. so its hard to see much scoring production from lin aside from in-the-flow offense. thats fine but the rest of the team do not really play ‘in the flow’ so hes going to get the short end of it.

    overall, it is not at all obvious that setting up lamb is more efficient than playing four out and letting lin run high PnR. proportionally, there isnt enough of lin. lin has shown he can regularly get at-the-rim assists with pick and rolls. he does that better than anyone on the team, and its not even close.

    like tonight, he should be able to dominate some stretches but he is disinterested. the disinterested lin is evident when he overpasses and forces passes into the paint instead of just shooting it himself.

  • NONONO

    He only needs sleep 50% Kemba’s time based on their on court avg minutes.

  • rookie75094

    Yes!!!heat lose!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Yeah, Heat going to lose.

  • NONONO

    That is funny. It means you have to graduate from Harvard.

  • LinMad

    Mark Cuban believes Kristaps Porzingis has the talent – or a colorful word for talent – that Jeremy Lin doesn’t.

    “No, not at all,” Cuban said when asked if the Knicks rookie would be another ‘flash in the pan’ like Lin. “Jeremy Lin went from undrafted to we had him on our Summer League team to getting passed around. Jeremy Lin worked his way through. He wasn’t just a flash in the pan. Porzingis is the real deal. He’s got some s**t to him and that’s the real difference.”

  • zxcvb

    Most of the losses that Clifford and CHA fans deemed “acceptable” look awful now. Heat, Hawks and Cavs are far from great, especially this early in the season. Not playing Lin down the stretch cost them at least 3 wins.

  • Michael

    2nd

  • Dan Cohen

    that’s not a good answer.. it shows you are a mama’s boy. lol
    but I guess I couldn’t even come up with something better without insulting her.

  • CJSHYY

    At least they finally played more team ball. Even Lin didn’t have lots of PnR but it’s OK for now.

  • LinMad

    i don’t think this is a diss on Lin. I think what Cuban is saying is that Lin had to work hard to get where he is now whereas Porzingis is a natural.

  • Dan Cohen

    that is what I was wondering..
    does cuban still think lin is a ‘flash in the pan’, so that’s why they didn’t get him?

  • Dan Cohen

    ok fair enough.

  • rookie75094

    Tankers lose again…haha

  • Dan Cohen

    what is that fragic stats?

  • zxcvb

    Actually, he said that Lin *wasn’t* a flash in the pan. He’s saying he worked his way up through the NBA. But he’s obviously placing Porzingis on a higher level.

    Who cares what Cuban thinks, though? The mediocre team he’s built and colossal mistakes he’s made (Rondo?!) speak for themselves.

  • Rick Johnson

    Be nice if Phoenix can beat Chicago. Especially with Miami losing.

  • LinJa

    Guys, please don’t lower your expectation of JLin’s performance. He should be 15/5 close to 30 min on avg based on his skill set. Seems people are happy when he played more than 20 min.

  • I don’t like Hawes as the big man next to Lin but Lin made the best out of it.
    JLin got excited with nice overhead assist to Hawes for a dunk so he tried to be too fancy with a difficult pass in traffic.

    But he’s slowly finding his balance to facilitate and shoot 9-10 FGAs which would be good to earn him 25+min in the past 2 games.

    I wish Clifford will play Hansbrough more with the 2nd unit instead of Hawes.
    Kam & Hawes gave too many rebounding to Pistons at 1 stretch.

  • Dan Cohen

    and that girl is not loyal.. she also want cam for xmas. geez.

  • Dan Cohen

    maybe that’s why cuban didn’t make lin a bigger offer.

  • zxcvb

    He’d be higher than that. Lin scores in bunches like most PGs. Nothing for 5-10m, then super-hot for 3-5 minutes. Even 5 more minutes would be 5-7 more pts.

  • rookie75094

    Didn’t you notice her handle. ..ashhole…. mod don’t ban me…lol

  • Warren
  • Dan Cohen

    could be 18 and 7 if
    1) he gets a 88% ft shooting
    2) he gets his 3 pointer to over 36%
    3) his teammates doesn’t have butterfingers or that they know when lin will pass out of the blue or that they know how to roll with him where hawes starting to get.

  • LinMad

    he should have showed interest in Lin during off season

  • occupatio

    notice how slowly lin walked the ball up tonight, unlike his usual style of pushing the pace and looking for transition opportunities.

    the reason is that they were running many set plays for lamb with lin as distributor.

  • CJSHYY

    Cuban is mad at Lin didn’t take cheap salary to play for Mav but instead for Hornets. smh!

  • LinJa

    yeah well, 15/5 is the BOTTOM AVG.

  • Rick Johnson

    Phoenix only 2 pts behind Chicago with less than 5 min left.

  • zxcvb

    I thought he was just playing under control and controlling tempo with a big lead. His TOs are way down of late, even adjusted for minutes/touches.

  • noob

    Agreed. Porzingis has something you can’t teach….height

  • blubell
  • zxcvb

    Earliest possible trade date for Lin is 12/15. Wonder if that’ll have any effect on his situation. Get his value up and trade him (e.g. to MIL)? Trade Al and play more PnR? Acquire a swingman like PJ Tucker (no more Hairston)?

  • rookie75094

    I don’t know…but he committed a crucial offensive foul…that may have cause the Miami luke warmth the game…hehe

  • LinMad

    I honestly believe during the next off season, Lin will be offered a lot of money from many teams knowing that he was picked up for $2M only and is outperforming many PGs who are being paid a lot more. It looks like a lot of teams need a player like Lin. Not just for his skills but also his marketing.

    A PG who can defend and PnR all day. Can draw lots of viewers and revenue. Charlotte isn’t an ideal team for Lin cause the bigs aren’t PnR bigs. They are 3 points shooters. Also, it doesn’t seem like the coach likes Lin. I can hear him from the side line everytime Lin makes a mistake. Whereas other players like Batum who gets 9 TOs is ok.

  • LinMad

    I don’t think there are many players on Hornets who can push the pace with Lin. Which is why I felt earlier in the season, Lin wasn’t getting a fair shake cause he was making “circus” plays according to Clifford.

  • blubell
  • zxcvb

    Truth! Lin will often speed ahead for a fastbreak…but no one can/will pass him the ball. Or Lin will go into the teeth of the offense, but no big will follow for an easy dunk.

  • blubell
  • occupatio

    it makes a big difference the kind of big man the PG gets to play with. reggie can be dangerous cuz he gets to play with drummond, but when drummond is not in the game — like long stretches tonight — reggie becomes much less effective. tonight, with drummond in early foul trouble, reggie was a non-factor.

  • Briiick

    30 inches behind the 3pt line.

  • Dan Cohen

    al can’t be trade..
    he hurt..who would want him when he hurt.
    (yes, I know that is broken english.. I did it on purpose =)).

  • Warren

    hello. request you to please highlight this:

    All-Round Jeremy Lin Steers Hornets Past Pistons
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/round-jeremy-lin-steers-hornets-past-pistons-2347470.html

  • Rick Johnson
  • LinMad

    the crowd is pretty loud

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Hornets fans seem to like Lin a lot.

  • zxcvb

    If MDA gets a coaching gig, Lin will follow. It’s been reported that MDA is still trying to reunite with Lin, which makes sense since Lin can run his system to perfection but w/o an ego or drama.

    GSW’s success is helping repair MDA’s reputation. High-octane spread PnR system with lots of 3s can win titles. I’m watching Brooklyn very closely this season. No draft picks till 2019 (no tank) and MDA & Lin is just what they need to sell tickets and take attention away from the Knicks.

  • Briiick

    I am glad to see another media joining Greg in the basketball to speak for Lin on the regular basis.

  • Warren

    kindly share.

  • LinMad

    they rooting for him. I’m pretty sure many are Lin fans and just want to see him succeed in Charlotte.

  • zxcvb

    Minor injury, won’t be out too long. He had a nice start to the season and is expiring.

  • LinMad

    Hornets needs to keep playing Lin 27 minutes and they’ll be 1st team in EC a week from now. My prediction that they’ll be top 4 team in EC will come true soon.

  • Warren

    Jeremy Lin Twitter Interview: ‘Like to Play Videogames Until Sunrise’
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/jeremy-lin-twitter-interview-like-play-videogames-sunrise-2347479.html

  • occupatio

    doesnt matter much what his minutes are if he is often playing next to kemba.

  • LinMad

    true, he needs some time alone as PG.

  • KHuang

    Been busy with work, but I’m back.

    I’m just glad that Lin got his.

    But the free throws? ARGH!

  • LinMad

    his reputation was damaged by who? Lakers?

  • occupatio

    lin leads one of the top benches in the league, while not interfering with the team ‘stars’ getting their stats. and lin’s contract is cheap. no way charlotte trades lin.

  • LinMad

    ya we could have won those if the game was coached better.

  • KHuang

    Probably Lin won’t get any offers, but your optimism is admirable.

    I expect Lin to come back to the Hornets next season, but I also expect the Hornets to draft a rookie PG or shop for a more expensive veteran to replace Lin even if Lin comes back for another $2 million.

    No matter how much Lin produces, his race and his unwillingness to abuse PEDs makes him unwanted around the NBA.

  • occupatio

    hornets had a big lead, so lin played disinterested tonight. his bad free throw shooting reflects that.

  • Rick Johnson

    Bulls lose

  • sws94

    Clifford said a lot about Lin during pre-game comments. Said Lin had solid PnR defense. When it comes to closing the game the difference between Lin and Lamb is matchups. How they play with others and have gone during the game is a factor, but the biggest reason is matchups.

  • John Focker

    I could picture Mama Lin’s reaction to the girl’s Twitter handle…

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff’s post game interview?

  • sws94

    Pre-game. 12/7

  • John Focker

    The Rondo trade threw Mavs out of contention last season.

    While Nelson, Crowder and Wright were not stars, they were hard-working players with good team attitude, which helps the team.

  • John Focker

    Melo + Kobe.

  • Briiick

    Yes. I have noticed that Lin has the nerve system of a real super star, he shines the most when others are scared of the ball under the highest pressure, and quickly loses his interest in stats padding time.

  • John Focker

    Didn’t seem to affect Wes Matthews trade, despite Achilles rupture.

  • occupatio

    as far as his ‘nerve system’ goes, under low pressure situations, lin plays like an average guy who mistakenly believes his role on the team and place in the league are secure.

  • Briiick

    Blah blah…, I find it entertaining that Cliff only compliments Lin’s defense.

  • Rick Johnson

    If GSW beat Indiana tomorrow and Charlotte beats Miami Wednesday Charlotte could be in 2nd or 3rd place Wednesday.

  • 1mtoldman

    ed davis leads all non starters in nba with 6 double doubles this season.

  • Dan Cohen

    oh he has 20 and 9.. zamm it.

  • KHuang

    Lin played CONSERVATIVELY and EFFICIENTLY.

    He’s simply overconcentrating at the line.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    Lin has historically SCHOOLED Reggie Jackson.

    Walker coming out early meant that Lin could handcuff Jackson in the 1st quarter.

    No Jackson, no Drummond.

  • Rick Johnson

    Going to be DNP-CD next 3 games.

  • leeda harun

    He is a good bb player but the lakers didnt appreciate him

  • Which one is “Frank Is Awesome” handshake which JLin helped to create?

    https://twitter.com/FSKPart3/status/674060890270863361

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/674059677903163392

  • james brown

    they sure do but want him on a cheap money…so Ed signed with other team.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I think they will trade him.

  • yup, he didn’t learn from Swaggy’s misfortune

  • sws94

    He just missed a few foul shots. The last 2 looked good.

    I thought it was smart to play conservatively and efficiently. He only had one short period where the 2nd unit was just trying to find the rhythm starting the 4th. Once they did, everything fell back into place.

  • occupatio

    i didnt watch the first quarter, but tonight lin mostly guarded blake, and walker was guarding reggie.

  • KHuang

    Damaged by all the haters that have egg on their faces for believing that Asian Lin could not play in the league.

    There are so many NBA front offices that are angry at Lin.

  • Rick Johnson

    Top 7 teams in the Eastern Conference are all within 1 game of each other. Good opportunity to move up in standings if they can beat Miami Wednesday.

  • james brown

    or he wanted to have what swaggy has right now so he can also be put on a trade?LOL!

  • occupatio

    russell will be going to that byron place that is ‘not the doghouse’

  • John Focker

    That anger stems from hating oneself being wrong, and exposed of being closet racist despite appearances.

  • Briiick

    He will be BSed.

  • John Focker

    Lin has also regularly schooled Walker, Conley, Teague…and even put Parker and Curry in check.

    Haters just turn both blind eyes.

  • Joe what do you know

    Serious, even the rookies don’t give a **** anymore. LMAO @ Lakers.

  • JJ Hui

    that’s what he wants probably, I pity him playing with LA stinker!

  • occupatio

  • John Focker

    Will he get same DNP-CD treatment as Swaggy? He knows as 2nd overall pick he gets media attention.

  • John Focker

    Au contraire, I think he learned too much from it, so now is forcing Lakers’ hand.

  • Acbc

    Did you have a good nap?

  • leeda harun

    Let us wait.Really hate the lakers franchise for sabotaging players future

  • KHuang

    That’s because Clifford only values Lin according to defense and doesn’t give a hoot what else Lin brings to the game.

    I’d go so far that Clifford deliberately undercuts Lin to an extent because Clifford doesn’t want a roid raging Kemba Walker lashing out.

  • CJSHYY

    They will not DNP him next game but don’t think he & Randle are Lakers future. They both are really not good. I watched some of their games… Tonight’s their best game I saw & from the bench maybe it’s right thing for them.

  • KHuang

    Lin’s production today was stellar.

    If he has games like this all season, I’ll be completely satisfied.

  • John Focker

    BS already cost Randle one year by literally causing him injury with the absurd running drills.

  • Briiick

    That is exactly what I like so that Cliff won’t have much leisure not playing Lin.

  • yeah, maybe they wanted to see how many DNPs BScott can hand out?

    Revolution!

  • Briiick

    I am glad you change your mind about how Cliff plays Lin.

  • heart

    Note: Tonight’s game Lin scored double-digit, 13pts, for the first time since four games ago.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Again, no offer?

  • spiderman

    roid raging?
    Lol

  • John Focker

    Yeah, if enough Lakers start voicing, Huertas will start pretty soon. LOL

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Excellent reminder.

  • leeda harun

    I believe he can do more

  • heart

    I do too but will Cliff Lin have more minutes like tonight?

  • KHuang

    Lin’s role:

    Facilitate whatever high paid players the coaches want to protect.

    Ironically that actually has the reverse effect of hurting the players that the coaches want to prop up and then Lin gets better looks.

    This is not surprising at all because with the way opponents load up on Lin defensively, it actually takes pressure off Lin when he’s being forced to defer especially as a PG.

  • KHuang

    Not in the minutes he’s had, that’s not possible.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Parsons is an ungrateful friend.

  • leeda harun

    With free throws.

  • Joe what do you know

    Despite all the hate, I have to give it to Byron Scott. His skin is thicker than the concrete walls of a nuclear bomb shelter. If there’s ever a nuclear blast, just hide behind him and you’ll be safe. Seriously, if I have a reputation being a recognisable member of a legendary basketball team, I would not put my reputation on the line for a diva like Kobe…. So I truly think Byron needs help…. Some serious psychiatric help is necessary….

  • LW

    Anybody got a video of “Frank is Awesome” handshake?

  • leeda harun

    Yeah, i would like to watch it.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Jerry Buss would rollover his grave just to disbelieve his kids are being bullied by his ex-players.

  • blubell
  • Charlie S

    JLin. A great defender and very good not turning the ball over. Haters don’t have anything to say now. Offense flows very well with him at PG. My god conditions are ripe for some magic. Just need to deal with FO politics.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • KHuang

    Most players in the NBA are DOPED OUT on PEDs.

    Everybody knows that.

  • KHuang

    No, I have not changed my mind at all.

    I thought Lin was APPROPRIATELY used today.

    Just because I think Clifford would be better off playing Walker less doesn’t mean that I disapprove of his usage of Lin.

  • Charlie S

    It’s way too early but fun to think about. Could the Hornets take over the top spot in the Eastern Conference?

  • blubell
  • John Focker

    They would have topped the EC ALREADY wasn’t it for politics.

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe lives in an entirely different reality. The Kobe distortion field:

    Defense probably giving him that because they know he’ll miss it and lose the game.

    Baxter HolmesVerified account‏@BaxterHolmes
    Kobe on why he is still shooting so many shots this season: “You have to just take what the defense gives you.”

    https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/674074076143607809

  • KHuang

    EASILY – as long Lin plays over 20 mpg.

  • KHuang

    Agreed.

    The Hornets have UNDERACHIEVED,
    largely because their starters have played terribly.

  • If they keep giving JLin 26+min and 10FGAs, they could do it very soon!

  • occupatio

    LMAO

  • LW

    He is probably right, because the defense don’t respect him anymore!

  • Hope

    Cha commentator: bench outplayed starters most of the time during practice.

  • spiderman

    Lakers should change their name to LA Skunks

  • John Focker

    Not unlike the Rox during Lin’s first year with them. KKKlutchfans praised McHale for taking young Rox into playoffs (8th seed) when in fact Rox would’ve gotten to 5th EASILY had they not faltered in the last 12 games, and 3rd or better had they played Harden and Lin like GSW is doing now with Splash Bros.

  • Briiick

    Yeah, it has been well known in NBA for at least 4 seasons that you don’t want to double team Kobe, you want to let him pad his meaningless stats and shoot his team out of the game.

  • occupatio

    charlotte commentators said that tonight?
    i was listening to pistons feed.

  • blubell

    Dell Curry

  • occupatio

    what does ‘most of the time’ mean? is that just recently? or pretty much all the time?

  • CJSHYY

    Glad you are back, Rose was asking your opinion few days ago from the other side.

  • sws94

    I think he said in practice, bench outplays the starters. He was talking about Tyler being ready to play even though he doesn’t play much.

  • LOL

    Defense: “We have to take what Kobe gives us”

  • Rzo Vlade
  • John Focker

    Not only that, his perception of reality is distorted as he take everything for granted. He was coddled like a baby yet complained that he had to hard-earn his spot in Houston.

  • occupatio

    ok. i take it to mean recently.

    in any case, cliff has been defensive in interviews when asked about starters in comparison to bench. its even more interesting, that comment, now that we know the bench also beats the starters in practice.

  • occupatio

    LOL

  • Charlie S

    Well the bench has also been bailing out the starters in games too

  • John Focker

    Wonder whether Tag would take the chance and produce Jeremy watch Hornets Edition. Pretty certain Lakers Edition sold out despite disappointing season.

  • occupatio

    thats what i mean. a reporter asked cliff about that before, and cliff just deflected the comment/question by saying the starters are playing fine. haha

  • Rick Johnson
  • occupatio

    this new fact is also interesting because lin was moved to play with the starting unit in a recent practice. maybe thats bc the bench kept outplaying the starters, so cliff re-balanced the teams. and to see different lineups with lin.

  • John Focker

    …everyone except Kobe…and BS himself!

  • Briiick

    I guess Cliff is taking a page from McHale to avoid a direct comparison between Lin and a stud, we will see.

  • CJSHYY

    BS & Kobe are one. Don’t think BS will let Kobe shoot less or cut his playing time.

  • occupatio

    these ppl talking about the situation as if it’s news. SMH. thats how it was last year too.

  • LW

    LW: bench outplayed starters most of the time during real game.

  • NONONO

    “Kristaps Porzingis is “the real deal” and owns the talent that Jeremy Lin didn’t”. I think ny daily news is trying very hard to convince people Knicks #12 is better than Hornets #5.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/cuban-knicks-porzinigis-s-not-lin-article-1.2458189

  • occupatio

    byron says dangelo will be moved to bench for the next 5-10 games

    https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/674009107494526979

  • Dan Cohen

    face reality kid.. you have to pay your dues.

  • Briiick

    Kristaps Porzingis is “the real deal” and owns the talent that Melo lacks.

  • Dan Cohen

    well, it’s almost a rephrase of cuban.

  • Mini JLin7 sports his hair now =)
    They like Bench Force 1

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/674078926617059328

  • blubell
  • Briiick

    Don’t click it !

  • CJSHYY

    But Lin could win the games for NYK not this kid. We will see what happen two teams in the end of season. Cuban just not really high on Lin before & even now. He’s also mad at Lin for not take the cheap deal to play for Mav that’s why Harris had that Linsnaity Heat type against Lin when two teams met in Dallas. smh! I really hate this fat guy.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! No need to help them spread the news. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    He can put up big number for sure w his skill & chance but just like lots of players in this league they just can’t matchup well even w good stats.

  • His family nickname “The Big Kid” is so fitting =)

    No wonder kids love him. He’s one of them!

  • leeda harun

    Ha ha. So true

  • james brown

    big numbers doesn’t tell the whole story.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Like vs King. Kemba could have big number but he couldn’t stop the opponent to score either. But Lin could that’s why he won that game. Matchup. I think what Cliff said about this sure it’s from MJ. LOL!

  • Lin Win

    76ers lost by 51 (Largest in Franchise history) to the Spurs and some of you guys wanted him to go to 76ers in free agency.
    MJ can’t even save that team let alone Lin.

  • NONONO

    Maybe Lin could help them change.

  • Briiick

    Agreed. Nothing is worse than stuck in a team specialized in tanking.

  • CJSHYY

    They can but they still want to loss so….

  • jeremy

    That team is trying to lose
    Lin going there is the worst case scenerio for him

  • CJSHYY
  • Briiick

    Well said. Click !

  • jeremy

    Finally the reporters are turning their backs on Scott

  • The next 10 games are
    1. Heat
    2. Grizzlies
    3. Celtics
    4. Magic
    5. Raptors
    6. Wizard
    7. Rockets (Dec 21)
    8. Celtics
    9. Grizzlies
    10. Lakers (Dec 28)

    My guess is we can go 7-3 or 8-2 so Hornets record could be 20-10

  • Mr Chuckles

    Where did ya go?

  • Lin Win

    Fakers tanking before 20 games

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Let make it a payback for Heat.

  • CJSHYY

    Rox plays well now. damn it. Raptors is also good. Maybe 8-2.

  • DX

    I agree, these teams are all winnable especially if play at home..

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It only matters most if Cliff, Cho and MJ all saw it.

  • sws94

    Rockets are just another game to me. Lakers are so pathetic that it hardly matters.

  • Dan Cohen

    depends..

  • Heat always play JLin tough.

    Hope Lin will dissipate the Heat on Wed

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I believe Lin can make a difference.

  • bolero

    they have different talent though..

  • Dan Cohen

    wow.. that hurts..
    if that was in the playoffs.. gms will take notice and they wil lhave orders to stop lin at all cost so they don’t look that bad for paying others more than lin.

  • Phillycheese

    Rook needs to earn his minutes.

  • bolero

    Heat is tough but winnable..

  • Joe what do you know

    Only possible if they all the sudden try to win…. If the FO is tanking, it’ll be h*** for Lin…

  • CJSHYY

    They know a lot more than us for sure. Somehow I think Hornets is going to play more Lin’s team ball from now on?

  • NONONO

    i think it is 24mins?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    NY daily news is a phony newspaper.

  • CJSHYY

    I think every GM knows bc they sure got the report from every game.

  • sws94

    He played a good first game against them. He just needs to stand up to them when they try to bully him which is what he did the first game of the season.

  • NONONO

    they would say they never seen it.

  • CJSHYY

    Jackson only got 4 pts that’s true. LOL!

  • sws94

    Lin mostly guarded Blake, not Jackson. Did Nathan watch the game?

  • CJSHYY

    After saw how good Lin vs Harris in Dallas I am not worry now.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    With Kobe, 10 Lins wouldn’t make a difference.

  • NONONO

    After they got another top 3 picks, Lin can lead them to playoffs.

  • jeremy

    Those are good teams you are underestimating them
    Heat Grizlies Celtics Raptors Wizards Rockets arent bad at all
    only guatanteed wins are against Magic and the Lakers
    they’d be lucky to go 5-5

  • occupatio

    wizards, magic, lakers are the only ones that the hornets should be expected to win. the rest is a tossup.

  • CJSHYY

    He said in 12 min.

  • Lin Win

    No…. No one can save that team. They need to trade everyone and get new players.

  • Lin Win

    It is whether that difference is significant or not

  • Warren
  • Briiick

    Too cheap to be worth any click.

  • Lin Win

    Faker fans were yapping last year about how they missed Blake and Blake > Lin.
    Tonight Lin showed who was better.

  • jeremy

    Meh, barely a diss
    He does recognize Lin as a good player
    but Pozingis does have more upside

  • grover chang

    Welcome back. Where have you been?

  • Joe what do you know

    We all know Mark’s mouth runs independently to his brain….

  • grover chang

    He looks controlled. Probably because he has accepted his role for what it is and is familiar with his teammates tendencies.

  • Warren

    unfair to compare the two. porzingis is a 7-foot-3 giant. lin has done wonders despite physical limitations. lin has succeeded because of high b-ball iq. porzingis is just a overgrown child.

  • LAJane

    thanks for the heads up

  • occupatio

    reggie played 24 minutes. walker was on him for 19 of those minutes so i dont know what nathan is talking about with that ’12 min’

    http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151207&game=DETCHA

  • sws94

    Lin wasn’t on Reggie for 12 minutes. Maybe 3 or 4.

  • Hope

    Hope kw coming off the bench next game vs Miami.

  • CJSHYY

    No way. He will not.

  • jeremy

    Now you are taking a cheap shot at Porzingis

  • John Focker

    Suffice to say no one there has any ego (or dignity) left…perfect setup for Linsanity 2.0.

  • Following the win over the Detroit Pistons, the Hornets Jeremy Lin sat down to answer your Twitter questions for a “Twinterview”:

    @joyfreeminds: how do you relax after a game?
    @joyfreeminds 1st thing is to get some good food, then end it with a night of video games, occasionally playing til sunrise – @JLin7

    @strodas236 how has the absence of Al change the way hornets are playing?
    @strodas236 we try to play in the pick-and-roll more, but we miss #BigAl – @JLin7

    @SpursDiva7 will he dye his mohawk teal and purple?
    @SpursDiva7 will you change your Twitter handle and avatar? #BuzzCity lol – @JLin7

    @JoshVDub what is your favorite fast food restaurant?
    @JoshVDub In N Out but on my epic cheat meals (once or twice a year) my trainer lets me hit up 4 fast food spots at once #beast @JLin7

    @NotMikeTolbert how long does it take to style that perfection of a hairstyle?
    @NotMikeTolbert perfection is a great way to describe it #humblebow … but foreal just like 2-3 minutes with hella strong gel – @JLin7

    @ashholecenteno @JLin7 @NBA will you marry me?
    @ashholecenteno you have to ask my mom, shes the real boss – @JLin7

  • Joe what do you know

    The kid can play. He does his job well. Give him a bit more NBA experience he’ll make it to the All star in a few years. I want him and Towns to play together with Jeremy one day.

  • heart

    That’s so unnecessary of Cuban. He’s probably still bitter that Lin didn’t choose his team after he gave Lin a chance in summer league. I questioned his judgement once he got enamored by CP and signed him to max $.

  • Warren

    only hope is if Hairston is demoted to bench. KW is considered new franchise player by MJ 🙁

  • Warren

    i got the same feeling when i read his comments. and everyone knows mark cuban is a bigot. he even admitted in an interview.

  • Warren

    no doubt he can play. but he has god-given ability and physical attributes.

  • Rick Johnson

    Byron Scott really messing with Russell’s head.

    https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/674009107494526979?s=09

  • John Focker

    MJ has fairly low standard for franchise player.

  • Warren

    exactly. great player but terrible owner.

  • jeremy

    which Lin doesnt… thats what Cuban said….

  • Warren

    lol so funny. i think russell and randle will be traded. maybe thats why benched.

  • Kemba is playing well & his $12M salary makes him a starter

    Kemba/Lin backcourt would be possible but with JLin anchoring Bench Force 1, it’s better if JLin doesn’t play too much time with Kemba.

  • heart

    He had a chance to sign Lin this past FA, but didn’t again once Jordan changed his mind. His action reveals his heart and now his mouth speaks for the world to know what he truly thinks of Lin.

  • jeremy

    Rookie spoke up
    Not sure if thats a good thing
    Lakers arent as invested in him as they are in Clarkson

  • Warren

    he also said: “He’s (Porzingis) got some s**t to him and that’s the real difference.” Is he trying to say Lin doesn’t have s**t?

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly. Cuban is always too emotion to judge things… Like that big contract to CP bc he hates Rox & Morey… smh! No need to spread his comment anymore.

  • Hope

    Hope “kw coming off the bench next game vs Miami.”

    Fixed!

  • Briiick

    Yes, he is just as good as Dolan in recognizing talents, but he is luckier.

  • John Focker

    The “brains” behind Jeremy’s Summer League stint was Donnie Jr., not Cuban.

  • sws94

    I don’t think the offense looked better with Lin at PG tonight. With Kemba at PG, he gives it to Batum and the first unit had good ball movement mainly because Batum made most of the good plays. Kemba moves around a lot and cuts towards the basket where Batum finds him. Batum found Zeller and everyone else. With Lin there wasn’t much of a difference, Batum did most of the facilitating.

    In the 2nd half, they were sloppy, Kemba, Batum, all of them. Then they settled down and got it together. When Lin came in without Batum he looked kind of skittish and probably was the roughest part of his very good game. He did make a nice drive and dish to Hawes but he turned it over driving to the basket and almost turned it over trying to thread the needle when a ball got kicked. There were some rough spots at times. It settled down, Lin and Lamb and all just started making better passes and the 2nd unit looked more unified. But I don’t think it looked any more unified than when the first unit kicked in. Both units benefitted from the play of Batum. While Batum had a few TOs as usual, he made some really good plays as well.

    I think sometimes the offense looks better in the 2nd unit, sometimes not. Same with the first unit. When both units are sharing the ball, both look good. And a lot of the time, it’s Batum helping both units look good.

  • Warren

    this is the same owner who let tyson chandler walk a year after they won a championship.

  • Acbc

    This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

    There’s a book called Competitve Fire which suggests that great athletes are ultra competitive because of some deep rooted psychological problems with insecurities and the intense need for attention, adoration and love. I never liked the book because it paints a very negative slant on why great athletes get their personal drive to be the best. However, this book definately describes Kobe to a tee.

    Kobe’s delusion has driven him to seek as much external love and adoration as possible to fill an emptyness that juts can’t be filled. It’s an bottomless pit of Black Mamba darkness. This urge is similar to a drug dependency. The book brings up how some athletes turn to real drug dependency after they retire to get the high they used to get from fans and endophyen highs. Kobe is in full danger of falling into this type of dangerous habit once he loses everything he so desperately held on to for so long now despite embarrassing himself and destroying the Lakers at the same time.

  • CJSHYY

    Well, from his mind. If not for me, there is no Lin in the league… smh!

  • heart

    Exactly, but Donnie works for Cuban. So Donnie probably had to convince Cuban and Cuban ok’d it since he’s the owner.

  • Steppen03

    I think the Standings will be like this: EC Teams that are Top 8 now will mostly remained by regular season’s end. I predict: Cavs, Raptors, Hawks, Hornets, Heat, Pacers, Bulls, Celtics.

  • leeda harun

    Hope the hornet well prepared for the upcoming games

  • you’re probably right.

    Most of them have winning record except for Lakers & Wizards

  • Hope

    I saw pj play better with Lin at point this game. At least every player gets to touch the ball at every other possession.

  • occupatio

    when kemba’s shooting comes back down to earth, it will be apparent that kemba really doesnt do that much for a team. he doesnt make many mistakes, but his positive impact is limited.

  • Warren

    my prediction:
    1) Cavs
    2) Heat
    3) Bulls
    4) Pacers
    5) Hornets
    6) Wizards (will bounce back)
    7) Raptors
    8) Celtics

  • jeremy

    yah the sh*t = “god-given ability” and “physical attribute”?

  • John Focker

    Those teams are NOTHING to worry about. The Hornets main concern is…drumroll…Clifford.

    The not-so-old Chinese adage: Fear not God-like opponents, only the pig-like (dumba**) allies.

  • Warren

    subject to interpretation. only cuban knows what he meant.

  • sws94

    The least chemistry of any two players on the court may be between Lin and Kemba unfortunately. Batum now has great chemistry with Cody, very good with Kemba, good and getting better with Lin. Batum is by far facilitating the best on the team (didn’t say he’s the best facilitator, but he’s facilitating the best) and helps both Kemba and Lin. Yes, he has TOs, but he makes some seriously good plays. He occasionally has a nightmare game. But so apparently so does Drummund and Jackson.

  • jeremy

    the hornets are a good team too
    but if Clifford continues to be stubborn not featuring Lin in the offense
    They are not gonna go far

  • CJSHYY

    BTW, Cuban also trash Kidd after he didn’t stay w Mav…. smh! No need to care what he said too much…

  • jeremy

    LOL yes!!!

  • LAJane

    It’s a great answer to deflect a celeb-chaser with an unappealing handle.

  • sws94

    PJ really played poorly. He was foul prone and made some terrible plays. He had two good plays. I think he made an open 3 and he had a nice drive. I don’t remember with what unit it was though LIn may have been on the floor with him when he did that. Otherwise, he wasn’t good at all.

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way. I don’t think Lin wants to be starting SG bc w Kemba he can’t do too much but stand in corner & waiting for ball to come.

  • jeremy

    LOL @ the last one
    Only funny when your parents are chinese immigrants hahaha

  • John Focker

    PR response no not offend the fan.

  • sws94

    Any major injury can change things drastically. Too early to say. Cavs/Heat yes. most on the list will make the playoffs but anything can happen during the course of a season.

  • CJSHYY

    I think if Hornets from now on really going to play team ball, they will be on top 3 in the Eastern C.

  • heart

    So Lin can cross Mavs off the list for next FA?

  • Warren

    i have a feeling Lin will stay in Charlotte for many years.

  • Steppen03

    You cannot discredit last season’s No.1 … That’s crazy. The last spot may be Wiz or Celtics. This season is the Hardest to predict. 1. Cavs 2. Raptors 3. Heat 4. Hornets (more JL7), 5. Hawks, 6. Pacers, 7. Bulls, 8. Celtics

  • sws94

    It’s interesting you say that because either it was this game or another one I noticed very specifically Kemba motioned to Lin to get OUT of the corner. He then passed it to Lin who passed it to someone else who passed it to someone else for an easy basket. He motioned to Lin to start an offensive sequence and motioned Lin go to near the foul line.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Haha!

  • jeremy

    they wont clifford too stubborn

  • Warren

    🙂 actually i completely forgot about Hawks. Maybe last spot is a toss-up.

  • heart

    Please don’t speak it yet…I’m leery about Hornets. Let’s see how the season turns out… I’m praying a miracle will happen somehow for Lin to show case his skills especially playoff time. Lin is too good to be a ‘backup’ PG.

  • Phillycheese

    Means he was a high draft choice therefore gets more chances. That is the diff. Cuban was not dissing JLin.

  • jeremy

    what

  • sws94

    Thank you. This sure has been posted and discussed a lot on Lin forums with many posters misinterpreting it.

  • CJSHYY

    But after big lose to GSW, they did change more team ball so maybe MJ agreed?

  • Warren

    let’s hope for the best. i just feel this is the perfect team and set-up for him. only wish his mts would increase to 32-32 mpg.

  • Dan Cohen

    well, if lin was at the 2 instead of batum, it won’t be too bad because batum get to shoot a lot more. so kemba will end up playing iwth lin due to set plays.
    right now, lin is not a 2 or a 3 or a 1 if kw, batum and lin are in there together. … lin is the one to stand in the corner if that is the case.

  • Rzo Vlade

    highlights???

  • Ben Johnson

    you are so right…a major injury to Kemba would propel this team to a top 3 seed

  • jeremy

    who knows
    he might go back again
    we all see how Lin doesnt get featured in offfense at all

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Magic is not an easy team to play. They have beaten many good teams; winning five out of the last six games. The East is better than the West this year; specially when the East teams meet the West.

  • Phillycheese

    Not cool.

  • NONONO

    You see how Lin’s hair can destruct the opponents


    Re: Game 22: Detroit Pistons (12-9) @ Charlotte Hornets (11-8) – 7:00 PM ET

    Post#145 » by Arp590 » Today 12:58 am

    I’m just impressed Jeremy Lin’s hair stays up like that the whole game.”

  • CJSHYY

    That’s not surprised bc someone don’t like him to be too shine.. so now only can talk about his D… ?!

  • heart

    yep.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

  • Steppen03

    Honestly, that’s a right call by BS. Lou Williams is better at this point. Russell = rookie has lots to learn. I don’t give a damn about Lakers. whatevers.

  • Joe what do you know

    Employers won’t care how smart you were born to be. They look at your performance and behaviour…. What I wanna say is, everything in this league is comparable. It’s only the matter of whether if people wants to dig deeper when comparing thigs….

  • sws94

    Lin has been used more if he cuts. I noticed that Kemba moves around a lot more than Lin. If you have Kemba and Lin moving around it can lead to a disorganized offense. Kemba moves, Batum moves, Lin has to more or less be an outlet. I would just like for them to rotate that and have Lin cut some more. But it isn’t always the case Lin stands in a corner. Batum has been looking for Lin more to cut to the basket and sometimes it is Kemba on the perimeter. Kemba/Batum/Lin chemistry is a work in progress.

  • Joe what do you know

    That’s not the only thing that stays up the whole game…..

  • sws94

    Yes. Until Lin will be in the closing lineup with both of them. So they might as well get practice. Lin will close based on matchups says Cliff. I think he will much more because Lamb doesn’t have the defense and big-game clutch playmaking abilities Lin has.

  • NONONO

    No idea why Cliff put Kemba back in second quarter and 4th quarter when Lin was play well as PG and Hornets had big leads.

  • Let’s not wish injury to any players.

    Hornets team wins will give chances for JLin to shine in playoff where it matters the most

  • sws94

    2nd quarter to avoid 3rd foul in the half. Not sure in the 4th either. Lin just made a great shot and was taken out.

  • heart

    Oh uh, Heat game is tomorrow, back-to-back for both teams. Heat just lost so they’ll be motivated. Cliff better gives Lin more minutes like tonight.

  • NONONO

    it could be a x factor.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

  • Dan Cohen

    Batum has been looking for Lin more to cut to the basket
    besides cutting to the basket, batum has been ‘hoping’ lin would moved and get open when batum was in a little of trouble. I have seen that..and at one time he was looking at lin but lin didn’t bulge. There was at a time when batum had to hand out the ball at the perimter as a signal to tell lin to come get the ball.

    I think it’s ok if lin stands still as an outlet when the driver is driving in, but not when batum was still moving along at the perimeter or when batum was in midrange with his back to the bucket dribble because defense is ‘blocking him’.. that is when lin should read and move to get slightly open. If lin gets open at certain times, I ‘m sure batum would’ve passed it out to lin.

  • NONONO

    Tomorrow is Wednesday.

  • sws94

    Yes. Lin can move more. Sometimes moves a good amount with Batum or Batum and Kemba, sometimes not. I’m not sure if it has to do with play, or just Lin deciding to keep that position and let someone else get the ball. Since Lin is a major ball handler, I think he could be more assertive sometimes in going to the ball when Batum and Kemba get doubled or pick up their dribbles.

  • CJSHYY

    No, it’s 12/9 Wed. not B2B

  • heart

    Sorry I’m ahead of myself.

  • jeremy

    NBA is unique or any sports
    You actually have to be born with the talent
    Hard work alone isnt enough
    and some employers only want the best
    people who were born to be smart

  • heart

    Got it. Just checked the calendar.

  • Batum brilliantly set up a nice assist to a wide-open 3 by JLin by drawing 2 defenders inside.

    JLin drained it from a zipcode outside downtown #CurryRange

    https://twitter.com/jlinforum/status/674062400988016640

  • sws94

    Clifford is beating teams the way he is using Lin. His way of using Lin with the rest of his team has resulted in a winning record and wins over winning teams like Chicago and Detroit. Clifford himself said they have to improve. Lin is part of the team so he would be part of what improves. But, he may never use Lin how we want him to, and still win.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    BS has lots of room under the bus early in the season.

  • jeremy

    He might, then good for him but so what? Lin fans will still want Lin to be featured, nothing wrong with that
    they are just barely a playoff team, not that good they are not beating everyone
    Lin can score, its not a bad idea to feature him instead of focusing on 3 players only

  • LinMad

    all these teams Charlotte can beat if coached right. +10 wins right there.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Jeremy has steadily been making improvements in his game. What will be become of him after the all star break when the team gets their all star making out of their system? Lin will shine much brighter than now.

    Jeremy begins to play almost faultless basketball early this season; what PFV called the Linsanity Plus mode last season after the All Star Break.

  • Warren

    Lakers News: D’Angelo Russell Accuses Kobe Bryant Of Ball Hogging
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-news-dangelo-russell-accuses-kobe-bryant-ball-hogging-2347524.html

  • John Focker

    He’s on bus #2 already, so yeah, plenty of room down under.

  • heart

    And that’s why he got benched. Guess who made that call and who carried it out?

  • John Focker

    That being said, Hornets play Rox Dec 21, and Pat “Harding” Beverley is back in the starting lineup.

    Just saying…to watch out.

  • sws94

    Marvin likes Lin’s shot. This is after that running floater shot he made before being taken out in the 4th.

  • John Focker

    Only Warriors and Spurs “should” be able to give Hornets trouble.

  • occupatio

    they ran a hammer set by lin, for lamb.
    this is the first time ive seen lin do that this year.

  • John Focker

    Marvin’s the REAL team player, Kemba’s either only lip service or just flat-out incapable of playing teamball.

  • sws94

    There’s a difference between saying Cliff can’t go anywhere doing what he’s doing than saying you’d like to see Lin do more. I would too. But Cliff is winning and that’s what he’s paid to do. I do think Lin puts less emphasis on points and stats than fans do. He seems to enjoy getting assists more.

  • sws94

    Good for Russell. Kobe is ball hogging and taking awful shots. He’ll be gone at the end of the season. Russell doesn’t have to care that much about dealing with Kobe. Hopefully Scott will be gone with Kobe.

  • sws94

    On the court, that’s certainly true. And I see Marvin and Lin always talking to each other on the bench and on the court.

  • John Focker

    Hopefully BS stays with Lakers forever. The crooked org under Jimmy deserves no redemption.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Mav is real Kemba only talk.

  • yes, Marvin let out one big scream =)

    Frank also set up a good screen on Blake. That was Lin feelin’ and reactin’ to the moment.
    Pure clutch!

  • CJSHYY

    林書豪Jeremy Lin’s Offense & Defense Highlights 2015-12-8 Hornets VS Pistons

  • LinMad

    After watching the highlights here, I noticed Clifford made a “NO” motion to Lin after he shot and scored his first bucket. What is that all about? Cliff used both his hands to wave a No gesture and Lin shook his head. Maybe that’s why he wasn’t looking to score at the start.

  • sws94

    So maybe that play Lin did for his last shot tonight was something that is supposed to happen more. Lin got the ball from Frank who was double teamed under the rim and didn’t hesitate to just go into his drive. That’s what I like from Lin. No shot fake, not jab steps, just go. And for some reason, he hits that whatever it is, kind of a running hook floater acrobatic shot a lot. It’s like he’s not thinking, he just puts it up and he hits it. But that play did start off with Lin behind the arc. He wasn’t quite in the corner, but he was on the side driving into the basket.

  • yeah, Bev’s risky play can be dangerous.

    Nice Kerrigan reference there =)

  • sws94

    Their fanbase might not allow it. Byron was trending on twitter and there are angry Lakers fans out there.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    More to come.

  • yes, Lamb can’t impact defensively, create for others or draw fouls
    All are important to finish games & gain momentum

  • I notice lately when it’s Lin/Batum, good things are happening so Clifford might allow them to overlap more than Kemba/Lin

  • liked how the the video had a White guy sporting the JLin jersey toward the end of the video, helping block the stereotype that only Asian people are JLin fans.

  • CJSHYY

    The highlights is from Hornets feed they said Batum can be an All star… not Kemba?

  • jeremy

    well I dont see them going further than first round Kemba-Batum-Lamb wont be hot every game
    Yah Lin doesnt look to pad his stats hes a team player he does not try to take over or anything
    Thats why cuban said he doesnt have what it takes

  • james brown

    no foul..i guess?? because previous game, that’s how he says to the players that no need to foul on succeeding plays..

  • The secret is the ball was moving beautifully.

    There were 4 passes with 4 players touching the ball in that possession alone.
    Bench Force 1 has developed more chemistry and become more dangerous now.

    It did take time for new players to gel but great to see Lamb-Frank-Hawes-Lin connection there

    JLin was simply reacting to an opening and finding a way to finish the offensive flow to invent a new type of “Floating Butterfly, Hairy Dragon” shot =)

    Simpy Beautiful!

  • jeremy

    Batum has a better chance as a back up SF
    Kemba is still not better than Irving, Isiah Thomas, John Wall, Kyle Lowry and Reggie Jackson
    They really dont have a spot for him

  • CJSHYY

    If not this year then when Hornets host ASG if Batum stays he will.

  • John Focker

    Before marginalization and the rise of Kemba ISO, Lin and Lamb had PER of 21.6 and 23.7 (IIRC) respectively, while Kemba hovered in the 16 range.

    After much ISO, heavy min, and ball-hogging, Kemba’s finally up to 20 (not including Pistons game), while Lin and Lamb are down to 15.5 and 19.

    This is NOT how a “real team player” should roll.

  • jeremy

    Yah they might select him this year cuz france just got a terrorist attack
    they might do it to show support for france

  • John Focker

    If Kemba keeps his ISO up then he has a shot at competing with Irving in terms of selfish-ball.

  • jeremy

    and a reason to play french anthem again

  • jeremy

    not at all
    Irving is leagues better at that and hes no longer selfish with Lebron coming back

  • LinMad

    Marvin is always proud of Lin when he scores. I think they have good chemistry.

  • is that at 3:50? I don’t know what a hammer set is.

  • John Focker

    Like little Jimmy gives a cr*p about the fans.

  • John Focker

    Clifford was saying: “No Linsanity please!”

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! Maybe….

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Bc LBJ took all the shots for him now. LOL!

  • LinMad
  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Batum & Kemba took almost the same amount of shots per game. Now I believe Hornets really tried hard to push either Batum or Kemba to be in ASG.

  • Chopz

    I noticed hawes passing to lin quite a bit tonight. Lin kept feeding him for threes and easy buckets and he would pass to lin to start fast breaks n stuff. Nice to see that finally.

  • I have seen Kemba tried to evolve the game by not shooting too much but when he passed, terrible TOs happened.
    Kemba is a great scorer but a natural PG he is not. Even Westbrook might have more PG instinct.

    There might be a certain ceiling for Kemba to play team-ball but I guess Hornets might ride this season out to try how this Kemba/Batum plus Lin-powered Bench Force 1 will turn out.

    I see more Batum/Lin chemistry develop quicker than Kemba with any of them.

    It will be interesting to watch how the team chemistry would further develop.

  • John Focker

    For those who wonder why Kemba came back into the game late in fourth quarter, here’s one theory: FACE of the franchise.

    Catch my drift?

  • John Focker

    Batum is neutral towards Lin, I don’t think he either likes or dislikes Lin. I think Lamb’s the same, although I suspect he’s inclining towards Lin more after Kemba hogging.

    Marvin Williams, Frank K are pretty tight with Lin.

  • occupatio

    kemba coming back made sense if you were paying attention to the rotations.

  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    I guess if not for big won today. Lin will back around 3 to 2 1/2 min for close game. It’s like schedule from Cliff.

  • John Focker

    Yes, but he’s sick and it’s a blowout win.

    The likes of Curry and Parker would NOT have come back in under the same situation.

  • occupatio

    its not a blowout until drummond and reggie are out of the game. at that pt, they were put INTO the game. so obviously van gundy didnt think it was a blowout.

  • On off-court chemistry, Batum might be more a loner or reserved type.
    We haven’t seen him interacting much with teammates like in JLin’s videos.

    Funny how Kemba has more off-court chemistry with Lin while Batum has more on-court chemistry with Lin

    Lamb might be even more professional in the relationship.

  • John Focker

    20 pt lead (95-75) with 7:11 left in 4Q is NOT a blowout?

    When Drummond and Reggie left with 3:55 left, the lead was 22 pts (101-79), what’s the difference?

    Hornets didn’t need to bring in sick starter to extend 20 pt lead by 2 more.

  • occupatio

    is that a rhetorical question? or are you actually interested in understanding what cliff was doing?

  • sws94

    Time remaining and personnel.

  • John Focker

    Just trying to point out the main reason Kemba came back was to stat pad, rather than the game needing him back in.

  • occupatio

    at the 7:10 mark in the 4th quarter, van gundy put in a dual-PG lineup with both blake and reggie, so cliff matched it with a dual-PG lineup of lin and kemba. thats why cliff put in kemba.

    this is clear, because when reggie came out of the game, so did kemba.

    check for yourself by looking at the rotations:
    http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151207&game=DETCHA

    van gundy was still trying to win the game, and cliff wanted to ensure the win. the lead was large, but 7 minutes left is still a long time.. when van gundy gave up, so did cliff.

  • John Focker

    Bench was doing just fine. In fact they were doing better without Kemba than with.

  • occupatio

    you are right that the bench was doing fine, but you are wrong if you are using this 4Q kemba substitution for your ‘face of the franchise’ theory.
    that theory might still be true, but the evidence for it is certainly not in the example you pointed out.

  • John Focker

    Fair enough…for this particular game. 🙂

  • John Focker

    Point conceded, as Cliff did take Kemba back out after Stan raised the white flag.

  • John Focker

    Maybe it’s just me, but I see less and less of the Lin/Kemba/Al/MW goofing video clips now compared to a few weeks ago. Glad to see Frank still having fun with Lin and calling Lin the greatest friend.

  • Warren

    ya but Walker’s PER of 20.2 is really bad for a guy that plays 34mpg and has a high usage rate. With Lin on the floor, Hornets are way more effective. Every advanced stat will confirm that.

  • John Focker

    Agreed, though I doubt that he cares about PER as much as getting his face plastered all over the place. 🙂

  • Warren

    he is such an inefficient shooter too. if you look at his career stats. the only thing walker does OK is defense and hustle. he is a hardworking player but lacks real skills.

  • John Focker

    His D is not limited by effort, but by his size/wing span.

    Bottom line is, Walker is a often mismatched defender (think Aaron Brooks vs. Lin situation) who lacks good court vision and playmaking skills, and relies on streaky shooting. Kemba simply has too little to offer as a 12M PG (more than Steph Curry).

  • occupatio

    about 20 games into the season, lin finally gets to do a “hammer” play with his crew. this spurs-inspired set is fun and it truly utilizes lin’s driving ability, decision-making, and passing skills.

    you can see it at the 4min mark in the highlight vid. (9:48 on the clock in the 2nd quarter)

    lin gets a double ball screen on the right wing, and drives towards the basket. if the defensive big is too slow to rotate, then lin gets a layup. if the defensive big does rotate, then lin passes to lamb in the opposite corner for a three. lamb is freed up by a flare screen set by marvin.
    (in this instance, lin doesnt pass accurately into lamb’s shooting pocket, and the flare screen timing isn’t totally right, so lamb doesnt get an open look, but marvin gets open as a result. nevertheless, lamb is the intended 2nd option in this play, and lin is the 1st option.)

    lin will excel with sets like this. it puts him in the tony parker role.

    this is also nice to see because byron was too stu pid to coach, and mchale could not even draw up a play. not to mention the fact that under mchales offense, lin wasnt the main playmaker like this, and harden was unwilling to play off the ball either (like lamb in the corner)

    sets like this utilize lin’s skills, and give him an opportunity to score himself. this is a positive aspect of playing for charlotte this year.

  • Warren

    no doubt. especially when you compare Walker to other elite PGs in the league.

  • sws94

    Kemba and Batum are the closest things Charlotte has to stars. One nice thing about the Hornets is there is no superstar, but a team likes a marquis star or 2 to show off. They are the on the court stars. The marketing star, after owner Jordan, may well be Jeremy Lin. That could be why there is so much PR around Lin. The hair is another fun thing going on with him. If and when Lin goes on a run he could be an on the court feature, but not called a star. He in some way is being marketed with Lamb as part of the strong performing Charlotte bench. But Kemba and Batum are the stars, and MKG I guess will be the defensive star, the Tony Allen, of the Hornets when he comes back. Lin the off-the-bench personality, doesn’t even have to be the 6th man, gets high visibility.

  • occupatio

    i dont care about any of that marketing stuff. i want to see lin play his game, not just promoted on flyers.

  • sport

    Just checked box score. Lin made 10 shot attempts this game. he’s been increasing his shot attempts but it’s not enough he needs to shoot at least 13 FGAs. Especially when Walker and Batum starts icing him out and his minutes are limited. He had more minutes than Walker which is a first in a while! This time Batum got the special treatment with 30+ minutes. When will it be Lin’s turn have 30+ minutes?

  • CJSHYY

    Kemba played less min today bc he’s sick today. Next game maybe back to 30+ min again. But I think Lin will get his min too around 25 more or less.

  • John Focker

    Batum genuinely comes close, Kemba’s just manufactured pseudo-/quasi-star.

  • Check out how #SuperJeremyBros dominate Top NET PTS in 2-man lineup to help produce 12W-8L record

    To say that these Top positive Net Pts wouldn’t make Lin and Lamb be MVP candidates of 12W-8L record would be an understatement

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/674135659737579522
    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/674120408359112704

    Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHO/2016/lineups/

  • Spot

    I love when Jeremy can run plays… <3

  • I’m curious to see what MJ will do to keep JLin if he wants to be a starter in a team.

    MJ certainly knows what JLin brings to the table to bring energy and teamball into this 12W-8L record
    He can also appreciate the Asian marketing aspect as he wants to penetrate Chinese billion dollar market.
    I can’t see him easily let JLin walk away next season.

    But JLin needs to stick to his All-Star and starter goal; otherwise they’ll be glad to continue offering the anonymous energizer off the bench

    #TheThickeningPlot

  • Frank and Hawes actually had some nice moves around the rim today (refresh for GIFs)
    Bench Force 1 continue to be more dangerous

    http://i.imgur.com/9C4YYgU.gif

    http://i.imgur.com/KdRcAky.gif

  • sport

    Think Lin’s been watching Kuroko’s Basketball too much. Cause that form and shot looked liked Kuroko Phantom Shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lk3j6CYJ2A

  • When a picture says a thousand words

    https://twitter.com/mcristaldi/status/674028164373331970

  • The latest BDotAdot5 impersonation of the Clippers.
    JJ Redick’s one is the funniest =)

    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/674127838451208193

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JoeTeam

    lol Cody gets punched in the face I thought I saw that in the game.

  • Rzo Vlade
  • LinMad

    smooth plays

  • LinMad

    lets just hope for 27 minutes per game consistently

  • LinMad

    no foul on defense? ok

  • LinMad

    “Everyone knows that me and Nic are the guys who will shoot and start the offense but we need other guys like Cody…” – Kemba’s post game interview

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JoeTeam

    let’s do it!

  • JoeTeam

    Lin had the game under control. See the last run Q1 in the highlights – so cool, used clock, scored like it was against me and you. He is a0k, that boy of ours.

  • Ben Johnson

    Translation: Everyone must realize by now that the Charlotte Front Office has anointed us the team “superstars”, a direction which Cliffraud must follow like a dog, but we need to pretend to get other players involved because all the really successful teams play team ball, so we need to give the illusion that other guys are important to the team’s success…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Wonder if JLin guided R. Jackson. His stat was he played 24:05 and only had 4 points 2-9 0-4 3PM-A 1 ast 1rbd 3 fouls 3 turnovers.

  • LAJane

    That’s because those guys have true confidence and don’t worry about being shown up by others if they’re not on the spot claiming territory.

  • TTNN

    are you sure? At 7:10, they put in Reggie and take out Blake, so it is not dual PG line up. Clifford put in Kemba and take out Lin. It is not a dual PG line up either, not sure what you are talking about.

  • LAJane

    Some have pooh-poohed the idea that Lin’s shooting has been off because of his back, but I’m in the camp that believes something’s up. You don’t wear the back pack all the time if you don’t need it. The team has full staff of professionals to baby players’ fitness. If you live in the same town as your own health practitioners it’s easy to get that extra benefit, but when you actually fly a Master across the country to treat you as he did, it’s because something’s a nagging issue, imho. He’s been knocking himself out on defense…I’m praying for full health for his shooting as well.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • kjch

    Cody and… Did he mention Lin?

  • real-dsb

    Looking at popcorn machine, they did not have much overlap on the court.

    http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151207&game=DETCHA

  • real-dsb

    That would definitely explain it.

  • LAJane

    “Cliffraud” is a site rules no-no. I kind of agree with the rest of it. Seems like Kemba’s confidence is eroding under the pressure of Lin’s competence.

  • real-dsb

    I told you Lin and Kaminsky would be BFs. Look for Kaminsky in the next Lin youtube video.

  • real-dsb

    LOL. I thought BA upgraded to a real indoor gym, now he has regressed to a parking lot??

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Yeah..That was weird…I would hope he wasn’t telling Jeremy not to shoot…Although this particular shot was a low % shot that coaches hates….But these shots are the one Jeremy makes when he’s on.

    Lin shot was a contested long 2 point shot. As long as he makes it, let him take it..If he misses, than you can tell him to look for better shots.

  • real-dsb

    Since Lin wouldn’t be a start unless injury to Hairston or Kemba, Hornets second unit bigs are a decent fit with Lin (Kaminsky, Hawes, Zeller). Wish they had better rim protector and not Brian Roberts though.

  • real-dsb

    Agree with “With Lin on the floor, Hornets are way more effective. Every advanced stat will confirm that.”

    PER is affected by Usage, but not minutes. PER is a “per minute” metric.

  • zxcvb

    Very good point. I change my mind. I think that’s the biggest factor right now. Not to mention Lin’s shooting always heats up over the course of a season anyway with more reps, rhythm and team chemistry.

  • zxcvb

    Kemba forced himself to play rather than risk a Linsanity game, ha.

    Honestly, I don’t care what words people say. It’s all about on-the-court action and Kemba has been a much better teammate than Nic or Lamb. Just wish he’d play some defense…Kemba’s been useless on that end.

  • real-dsb

    My guess is that Clifford was signaling to Lin what to do on defense on the next possession, not referring to Lin taking the shot.

    Because if Clifford was not happy about Lin taking the shot, he would have shown some facial expressions during the shot attempt. But Clifford did not make any gestures until after the shot went in.

  • Rzo Vlade
  • zxcvb

    The only common link between all three 2-man combos is Lin. Lin + competent player = elite.

    Kemba doesn’t even crack the Top 10! I’m actually pretty shocked. I figured he’d be in at least one of the combos.

  • zxcvb

    It favors volume scoring, though. So playing lots of minutes to score 20 on 18 FGA helps big time.

    PER is good to judge bench players who don’t get to shoot much. But it also makes chuckers like Ellis and Walker look good if they take 20 shots in 35+mpg.

  • Warren

    Three interesting Lin articles (latest):

    All-Round Jeremy Lin Steers Hornets Past Pistons
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/round-jeremy-lin-steers-hornets-past-pistons-2347470.html

    Jeremy Lin Twitter Interview: ‘Like to Play Videogames Until Sunrise’
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/jeremy-lin-twitter-interview-like-play-videogames-sunrise-2347479.html

    Mark Cuban Takes Cheap Shot At Jeremy Lin
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/mark-cuban-takes-cheap-shot-jeremy-lin-2347505.html

    Kindly like and share. #jLin7

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Please no name calling. It’s against the website rule. Please change it. Otherwise, I’ll have to delete the post.

  • Dorothy

    Wow, Kemba!!! Sounds familiar? The famous cornerstone vs role player from Harden. I have been saying Kemba is faking being humble.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Mark Cuban getting salty that Jeremy chose to go to Charlotte instead of Dallas? Meh.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Very late to the victory party but it was thoroughly nice seeing Jeremy’s acrobatic shot and pass again.Whoever said that during practices, the bench unit lead by Jeremy probably destroys the starters, where the h*** was that announcer been all his/her life?!!? Kidding aside, it’s nothing new already. It’s a gospel.

  • John Focker

    Maybe bad posture during extended (’till sunrise) video game sessions?

    Someone get him a Lazy Boy!!!

  • MEL LIN

    Cliff told Lin not to help on Drummond cuz Blake just a three play prior to Lin making the shot

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Whenever his shooting is way off, I always think his body is aching somewhere.

  • John Focker

    I don’t know, Batum has been passing more to Lin than Kemba has.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL Welcome to the party!

  • wu kong

    Kemba had the same wrap on… I think this is just to keep them warm and ready to go .. prevent injuries.

  • Brent Yen

    Oh ya!

  • Brent Yen

    They ran Hammer b4…just saying I mean with Lin

  • Acbc

    He needs to get on the excercise bike on the sidelines again. Lol.

  • Acbc

    Lol, I had a friend who is almost a grand master in chess that cramped up his leg so bad that he was limping for a day or two. He was so intense during a game that he forgot to move his leg and it locked up on him. Lol

  • linfan

    One thing I am curious about is whether or not he got an actual offer from Dallas. The people who know apparently aren’t saying.

  • Acbc

    It’s a higher probably win but not a blowout. I think Lin has brought team back from the brink like this against wizards.(?).

    All things considered, It was a schedule lost for them so it was near garbage time,

  • Joe what do you know

    I can see Frank and Marv clicking with Jeremy off the court. One is goofy and the other is just a fun loving character. Jeremy is blessed to have good teammates everywhere he goes.

  • grover chang

    I think Batum is neutral to everyone.

  • Joe what do you know

    Playing video games til dawn is a BADDDDD idea…. I see too many gamers with poor postures.

  • grover chang

    Marvin seems like a veteran who is comfortable with himself and his game. There is no anxiety with other succeeding so he is happy for all his teammates, including Lin. I’ve liked Marvin’s composure and game since the start of the season. He kind of reminds me in this way to Boozer last year.

  • Acbc

    I wouldn’t put “great” and “scorer” together to describe KW. He’s been better this year but his career average says otherwise.

  • james brown

    first time i saw Marvin W play, i was not impressed as he’s just an average to below average player then, but after several games pre-season and regular, i saw maybe what Cliff has been seeing with this player, a solid contributor and a team player, and now i’m impressed on how he is making a chemistry with Jlin and co. hope this last for i see in him the Morris and patterson of Hornet, the Jeffries and Novak and the couch friend (LOL) of NYK. i hope they can forge a solid play together and with the team!

  • james brown

    seems that the more they played together, the pressure kept mounting on with KW to produce..I kinda see while watching games that KW seems a bit aggressive wheneven JLIn was on the court and seems with his actions tend to show that he;s the best player of the team..maybe thats normal but when no one is trying to get your position one becomes complacent but when threat comes in, players do become so watchful to being paranoid that he always think someone is trying to steal his thunder

  • Brent Yen

    He is having too much on the court already…:P

  • your son’s voltaire

    what is the “sh*t” that cuban kept referring to that Lin ain’t got to be successful? white? lol

  • Rick Johnson

    Exactly

  • CJSHYY

    Not surprised. In fact, Lamb didn’t play well last night.

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Really don’t like Cuban. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way. Lin sure do give him lots of pressure & he just took more shots w Lin on court w him. Competition.

  • sws94

    The reporter asked specifically about those guys. In the interview with Frank, he included Lin. That’s why Kemba didn’t mention Lin in that interview.

  • sws94

    Lin wasn’t mentioned because the reporter specifically asked about those guys and for some reason left off Lin. He asked the same question of Marvin Williams and included Lin.

  • cdblue10

    Can’t jump in with any of the conversation since I’m at work but it was a good win last night.Lin played great!Its been a while that we didn’t see him control the tempo most of the time like that.

  • sws94

    I think the opposite. I think he now has help and doesn’t have to always be the man and he’s striving off of the competition from Lin. He’s not really threatened, Lin isn’t getting more playing time or showing any real trend towards being considered a starter. He has that position solidly. He now can have confidence to implement what he worked on without having to overwork on the court. Yet, in my opinion, he still has those tendencies out of habit.

    Kemba and Nic start the offense, score, and in the full interview that I listened to, Kemba said he no longer has to try to have the ball all the time and take the shots. It helps to have others. The reporter completely seem to forget about Lin when asking about the new additions and Kemba this time didn’t add Lin. The reporter asked the same questions to Marvin Williams but included Lin and Marvin answered that all of the same guys have great skills they offer, but he didn’t specifically focus on Lin just mentioned him with others. And we know Marvin seems to be extra pumped with what Lin does on the court.

    I wouldn’t read much into this other than yes, Kemba and Nic are the two constants on the floor and first options and that we already know. That quote is out of context and shouldn’t be considered a Lin omission by Kemba when it is not.

  • cdblue10

    Are you the blogger or writer on this column?just curious.

  • JJ Hui

    RJ scored 2/9 (4 pts) with KW, not Jeremy Lin!

  • JJ Hui

    Yes 2/9 that 4 pts with Kemba defending him not Lin! i m not sure Nathan knows that!

  • JJ Hui

    They know but they have to protect their pets!

  • NONONO

    Cuban must have been pissed off by Lin in the summer. I guess Dallas was Lin’s #1 choice and it might have a pending offer for him as starting PG position. It made Lin defer all other possible offers (6). But Dallas was holding the offer and busy dealing DeAndre Jordan trade mess, which might have forced other teams to defer or cancel on Lin. So, Lin had to pick the best choice among other “no so” ideal candidates. Hornets showed up from nowhere and some how convinced Lin for the contract with minimum wage but “bigger role, freedom to pay”. It happened during DeAndre trade mess, Cuban must got more pissed off – “How dare you publicly canceled my PENDING offer before I made up my mind.”

  • heart

    I believe it was Hornets announcer, Dell Curry, Stephen Curry’s dad. At least I give him credit to bring that up. Others don’t dare to.

  • heart

    His true character is showing revealing his ‘grudges’ and what he truly thinks of Lin.

  • Maknusia

    Pls do read the whole q&A!!!…Cuban was complementary of Lin….

  • kjch

    Kaminsky is pretty goofy. I became a fan after he did that funny dance during preseason lol

  • Phillycheese

    Del Curry said on the telecast the bench wins more times than not against the starters in practice. I wouldn’t characterise this as “destroys”.

  • NONONO

    I thought it was NY daily news twisted the story and tried to made Lin look bad. But somehow Mavs fans seem mad on Lin too.

  • Maknusia

    That what fans do…get mad?! ain it?! lol

  • NONONO

    as a Lin fan, i got mad at Mark on the “pending” deal too.

  • yes, this year he has been shooting & scoring well.
    Could be Lin’s presence pushing him. Plus Batum & Lin’s presence giving more space for him to operate

    When he goes ISOs too much, Hornets waste a lot of possessions

  • Hansbrough should really get more time but Clifford likes Hawes shooting & playmaking more than Hansbrough rebounding and strong finish

  • good saver lol

  • sws94

    What did you call that shot again, psalm234?

  • CJSHYY

    Why Mavs fans need to mad at Lin?

  • Phillycheese

    Detroit not really a good team so it was nice the hornets blew them out. But they were playing a BtB so were probably tired. Still good game from Lin. When they brought him back in the 2Q after a short bench stint, I was like wow. He got 17 min in 1H I think.

  • sws94

    Really, he said that as an in a general thing. He said, that’s the way it usually is in the NBA meaning that on most teams, benches tend to outplay the starters in practice.

  • sws94

    Yes, he played a lot in the 1H. Clifford will play him big minutes when necessary. I think Detroit is better than the team the Hornets saw last night. Drummond is a monster on points and boards, he wasn’t last night. Reggie Jackson was player of the week, last night he had a miserable game. So the Hornets did not get the usual performances from those 2 guys last night.

  • your son’s voltaire

    was there more to the q&a than what was written in the article?

    When asked if Porzingis would be another “flash in the pan” like Lin,
    Cuban said, “Jeremy Lin went from undrafted to we had him on our Summer
    League team to getting past around. Jeremy Lin worked his way through.
    He wasn’t just a flash in the pan. Porzingis is the real deal. He’s got some s**t to him and that’s the real difference.”

  • Good to know JLin is having the 2nd best PER in his career even with limited min recently.
    It can still get better with more min

    https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/674202084275847168

  • really nice to see Lin actually running pick and rolls the last two games, and run in the way that I think that only he can do on this team. (e.g., the one with hansborough to end the 1st half of the Bulls game… and others.)

    then again, I normally only watch highlights so I don’t get a chance to see kemba running pick and rolls; maybe he does. anyway, i hope the coaches see that Lin does this well and runs more of them. i think that kemba and batum do run a potent offense, but i think it should be good to intersperse with lin’s pick and roll, for a more potent overall offense.

  • NONONO

    From the graphic, it looks like R. Jackson twice went to bench few mins after Lin went on the court. Lin helped the team for bigger leads in the both periods. Pistons coach properly knew Jackson R. Jackson was too much off and did not want to force him play much.

  • linfan

    A little off topic, but this is the best half time interview I’ve ever seen – if you haven’t seen it before, I’m sure you will get a kick out of it (and even if you have). Greg Popovich is quite a guy!

  • I think Clifford does see the PnR potential between Lin/Hansbrough.

    But he will only use it it in the context on how to add another weapon for Bench Force 1 when the matchup is right.
    The #1 priority for Hornets is to keep Batum happy so he’ll come back next season; #2 is to help develop Kemba/Batum chemistry.

    It’s early in the season and Hornets need all the Wins they can get so as a Coach Clifford would want to make everyone happy. So far it’s so good. Lin seems to be happy with his role at the moment to be part of team that utilizes his strength despite him not being the starting PG. But I still think he would entertain other offers if he can’t realize his dreams of being starter and an All-Star as a Hornet.

    It’s a Win-Win arrangement so far despite limited role. Analytics show Lin’s contribution in dominating Top 2-3-4 lineup in getting Net Points. If Hornets offer a starting position next season, it’s great. If not, other teams will notice his major role as a Hornet.

    For now, winning and deep playoff runs will benefit both Hornets and JLin’s career.

  • Sundown

    You haven’t seen Greg Popovich before?

  • CJSHYY
  • Sundown

    Yeah, funny how some latched on to that comment as if it was some specific praise of Lin as opposed to general praise of all NBA players.

  • Rick Johnson

    If Indiana loses to GSW today & Chicago loses to Boston and Charlotte beats Miami (home game) Charlotte could find themselves in 2nd place by Wednesday.

    https://twitter.com/Hornets__Nation/status/674278549038215168

  • KHuang

    Lin did not get a formal offer.

    But Dallas DID strongly consider it before deciding to not offer a contract to Lin.

    Dallas had its eye on “All Star” Deron Williams, as Mark Cuban is obsessed with “All Star point guards” whether they can play or not.

    This sequence of events was officially reported in NBA.com and hoopshype.

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! #2… I think they maybe can be #1… haha!

  • heart

    Getting consistent role and minutes this season helps MW’s consistency and confidence which translates into happier and productive MW on and off court w/teammates. And of course, Lin always provides and feeds off positive energy w/any teammates, especially those who are willing to get along and play team ball w/him. MW is one of them.

  • Rick Johnson

    If Cleveland loses to Portland they would be tied % wise with Cleveland but Cleveland has the better Conference record so would be in 1st.

  • It’s incredible that the chance of GSW to beat the Bulls 20-year old record of 72-10 is 54%
    If they did, it will also impact positively players who can play team-ball, hit 3s and play defense.

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/674277755236786178

  • Rick Johnson

    I agree. He had the same back pack when with Houston and had that shooting slump. It seems to have even effected his free throw shooting. If you are going through a slump because you’re changing your shot should it effect your FT shooting too? I’m not sure trying to have an earlier take off (like he said he was working on) would also effect your FT shooting.

  • sws94

    Good to see Craig. Most of the NBA players/coaches have a lot of respect for him.

  • sws94

    There are 62 games to go. It’ll fluctuate through the season. Hopefully it’ll be higher than last season in April.

  • blubell
  • MEL LIN

    Don’t want to sound negative. I think they are letting Lin play his style till Dec. 15….then it’s going to revert back to set plays again….Elbow…Elbow…Elbow…that’s just my take.

  • sws94

    So is it fair for us to say Kemba doesn’t pass the ball? He’s the assist leader. He’s getting them some way. The assists rates are very close. And maybe why one guy isn’t leading by more, they are shared in the team. That’s actually good.

  • orLinaryjoe

    What’s the significance of 15th?

  • Rick Johnson

    Wonder what it would be if you only count time Lin is the PG without Walker and Roberts on the floor. 4.6 assists per 36 min is diluted by time he’s standing in the corner watching Walker play PG and Walker and Batum have the ball.

  • CJSHYY

    Trade? I don’t think so. More bc that lose to GSW, Hornets started to play more team ball now. They need Lin & it’s good for Lin too.

  • David Kim

    As per touch and pg duties, Lin has the highest assists

  • CJSHYY

    Trade starts….

  • John Focker

    He had 21.5 before being pushed to the corner and never sees the ball again from Kemba “Teamball” Walker.

  • orLinaryjoe

    That did surprise me, but other factors including PT and time controlling ball helps. Lin seems to get more players involved.

  • pandaboy99

    Whats important is that he shows his worth to teams that have overpaid PGs like reggie jackson

  • sws94

    Small sample size. Now he is back to his norm. Lamb too, his number will go back to his norm.

  • orLinaryjoe

    So, we’re saying everyone wants to be traded and pumped up their stats?

  • MEL LIN

    More PNR….just to appease Lin so they can lock him in for the rest of the year and back to 15 mins per game.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s positive not negative.

  • sws94

    Lin looks for more players. But like Kemba, he is a PG and is sometimes ball dominant. When Batum is on the court, he gets others involved but doesn’t seem to possess the ball as long while doing so. Kemba is helped by Batum especially because he promotes ball movement. Lin does OK with his 2nd unit, but few of them have the qualities that would help him like a PnR big man like Ed Davis, spot up 3 shooter like Novak, athletic wing that can run out and catch his lobs though Lamb can to some extent. So his assists are down because he does things more out of sets now.

  • MEL LIN

    No….so that Lin will not even think about being traded…letting him feel at home and that he is being utilized the right way. But after the trade deadline things might change again back to few games back. Just a thought.

  • MEL LIN

    why would that be positive…it’s an illusion.

  • sws94

    Roberts is barely on the floor. Lin isn’t PG with Walker on the floor. Lin doesn’t get as many assists while Batum is on the floor because Batum also gets a lot of assists. As does Hawes actually.

  • also, it will be interesting to see stats for hockey assists, pts created for others per drive/possession vs own pts

  • MEL LIN

    I like the Hornets Fans…they do like Lin.

  • Acbc

    Yeah, Stef Curry is a game changer for sure. His shooting has proven once and for all that athleticism is but only one facet of being a great player. Fine twitch motor skills has to become a major part of scouting again. Even the great Jerry West, who was a great shooter himself, as GM drafted with the priority on athleticism. The game must change back to adapt to how the game has been transformed by rule changes. MDA understood where it would ultimately lead to. The system installed in GSW followed MDA ideas and has created a platform for another PG to shine. Steve Nash was the first MDA creation, then Lin and now Stef Curry. People put down Lin for “only” being able to shine in an MDA system. The real truth is that MDA system is created to take advantage of how the rules changed the game. The dinosaurs like Mchale, BS, Smart and Woodson are stuck in the past playing checkers while MDA is playing chess. The players that thrive has to be much smarter to be great.

    The biggest question is if Hornets will be willing to adapt to the MDA game and utilize the proven MDA product in Lin.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes but few times Roberts playing PG and Lin at SG probably still enough to reduce Lin’s AST/36 min stats. Whereas Walker is always PG. He should have the highest AST. 5.0 is pretty poor when you’re the full time PG.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    If you have lowered Lin’s standard then I agree.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Here I am, thinking they want to win, lol. Interesting theory tho. Why didn’t they sit Kemba last night?

  • heart

    My observation: At the mark 2:10 on the video above posted by Kwok Lai Lai or (at 1:58 1st QTR on the bar screen), after Lin made a pull-up jump 2pt shot, we saw Cliff signaled a horizontal wave of both arms and Lin nodded as he looked over to Cliff on the side line. I wonder if Cliff signaled to Lin that’s enough scoring??? Whatever the case, it’s weird that Lin had to look over to the side line to see Cliff’s reaction after he made his first 2pt shot.

  • sws94

    It’s all of the factors, Roberts being the least of them. It’s Batum, Kemba and other guys assisting like Hawes that brings down the assists of all of the guys. One guy isn’t looked at to get the assists, or 2 guys, they are spread around.

  • sws94

    He would shine then more than others except perhaps Batum. Also on plays leading to looks leading to FT attempts.

  • Rick Johnson

    If you look at Lin’s 2nd quarter AST / 36 min when he’s usually the primary PG with the bench his AST / 36 min is 6.5. Rest of the time Lin mostly SG next to Walker at PG.

    1st Qtr: 5.8
    2nd Qtr: 6.5
    3rd Qtr: 2.3
    4th Qtr: 3.4

    http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202391/stats/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Per36&Period=2

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They like him everywhere.

  • MEL LIN

    No…heart. Lin was helping down low with drummond prior to that play. Cliff just telling Lin no more help and he nodded. You watch to watch the play before that. Blake made a three because Lin was helping

  • MEL LIN

    Not in NY

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Haters always seem to be louder than the people like him.

  • MEL LIN

    don’t understand why they need to boo him. It’s not like he chose to leave the team. It’s the team that didn’t want him.

  • heart

    I re-watched. Why didn’t Cliff signaled then? Why was it only after Lin made the jump shot? Either case, I’ll be observing the side line more if the video is available.

  • MEL LIN

    Because Kemba was afraid that Jeremy will explode and take his spot…although I don’t blame Kemba. It’s hard to be short and be the star player.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I don’t care about the fans, I care where he has good chance to shine. Can’t really see it in Charlotte.

  • sws94

    But has MDA won a championship? MDA’s offense is beautiful to watch and many players like it while some don’t. But it is Pop’s system and whatever Kerr/Walton are using at GSW that has won championship. But GSW has an extraordinary blend of talent. I’ll say when Miami won it was the dominance of LBJ added with the greatness of Wade and talent of Bosh with solid role players.

  • MEL LIN

    Yeah. I watch the game last night. I have league pass, I’ll watch it again. Next play coming back he didn’t help anymore.

  • MEL LIN

    Yeah. Me too. If Kemba was not there, he will shine with this team.

  • sws94

    Why is everything Lin related? Maybe Kemba just wants to play every game he can. You don’t think Lin played with a not so great andle because he wants to play every game he can this season. Everything other players and coaches do isn’t because of Lin.

    And Kemba is 6 foot 1. You say he’s short like he’s 5 foot 9 Isiah Thomas. Chris Paul is shorter than Kemba and he’s a star in the NBA at the same position.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They both can have great year together but Kemba does not seem to be…

  • Dorothy

    Wow, What a great accomplishment for Kemba to lead the assists per 36 minutes!!! Kemba the anointed PG vs Lin the mostly 3 point corner SG on the team. SMH

  • sws94

    Lin left NY years ago. Lin is liked in NY, actually more than most of the stars while he was here. I’m from NY and went through Linsanity. He’s liked here. Booing him is a form of flattery and it isn’t mean-spirited booing.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin answered Steve Blake with that jump shot right before he left Steve Blake wide open 3s because he was helping to guard Drummond. Very possible Cliff signaled not to help anymore.

  • DX

    Maybe that’s on other side of court. Usually, Lin looks coach when close to him.

  • Rick Johnson

    Exactly. Lin’s stats are diluted because he’s playing SG and not getting the ball. If you look at when he’s the PG his assists would be better than Walker who’s always the PG.

  • DX

    MJ and GM aren’t that simple.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I agree NY likes Lin.

  • sws94

    If you want to look at individual stats, Lin isn’t in a great situation to get them. That’s the problem with basketball. It’s a team sport and players are judged on individual stats to get their contracts and prestige in the league. As a team, Lin is part of a more team-oriented system where these things are shared.

    As far as the corner thing goes, there’s progress being made. He’ll be in the corner more than we want but especially with Batum, chemistry is building. I’m not sure it can happen with Kemba but if you want minutes for Lin, Kemba is on the court a lot and Lin may not develop great chemistry with Kemba.

    So you can focus on what is not happening with Lin or you could look at some good developments like Lin getting chemistry with others. And when it is with a key guy like Batum, there may be situations in the future where Batum/Lin lead the comeback, closing or OT and more of that may happen with Lin’s shot coming back.

    I want Lin to be healthy. That’s the main thing. If he’s healthy he plays and anything can happen. He seems more or less healthy now.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin is a pushing around player, not just from team to team but also from role to role. So sad.

  • CJSHYY

    True. Consider how less ball Lin got but still could get this AS rate.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    However, Cliff has been very micromanaging Lin, opposite with what he said he would do and comparing to unleashed Batum and Kemba.

  • Spot

    Then Cliff is right. He’s sooooo right in this case.

  • Spot

    Well done Cliff

  • Spot

    They should also put there assist per possession.

  • sws94

    He wants Lin not to get the foul and prefer Drummund gets a 2 and Lin not give up a 3 to a very good shooting Blake. It’s normal player/coach interaction and it makes perfect sense. I think Cliff was pleased with Lin’s overall play last night.

  • The problem with Lin trade scenario is Hornets can’t find someone better than him with $2.3M/yr to help them win this season and advance deep in the playoff.

    I can’t see Hornets will trade JLin this season to jeopardize their winning ways. The most logical step for them is to try to find a role to keep JLin happy so he stays next season. But JLin will get better offer next season.

    We should hope for Hornets to keep winning by utilizing Lin more. It will only help JLin’s career.

  • Rick Johnson

    At around 0:54 Batum starts dribbling with the ball, Lin points to Batum like he’s supposed to pass to Hairston but Batum ignores him and shoots and misses a 3. Looks like Lin kind of shook his head after that like Batum is going off script.

  • Spot

    Exactly. They need him this year but hopefully Jeremy will find something better the next one.

  • sws94

    Hopefully Lin will emerge strong at some point in this season and solidify a big part of Charlotte. That is in case he wants to stay in Charlotte and is tired of going from team to team, system to system, city to city.

  • MEL LIN

    Because I am all about Lin. 6 foot 1 is short in NBA standard. Chris Paul and Kemba living in Giant world. Short man syndrome. = )

  • Spot

    Yep. But Jeremy must stop to overhelp and follow the ball.

  • MDA’s offensive system is genius but his weakness was defense & only playing 9-players in rotation which burnt out the Suns players.

    He was too stubborn to chance in the area. GSW took the PG-driven system to another level by having Curry, Draymond Green, Iggy to be playmakers

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way. Right now they seem to move more toward Lin’s team ball now. Don’t think he will be traded. Hornets tried to figure it out to keep Lin & hope he will stay but I don’t think he will… just hope they can let him plays his game more & more from now on.

  • sws94

    He did less of it last night. Others got Drummond in foul trouble.

  • sws94

    It’s not that short for a PG. PGs are 6 feet to 6’4″ with a few taller. Many are around 6’1″ or 6’2″.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You’re 100% correct but the problem would be do the Hornets see that? With how they’re pushing Lin round inconsistent role and min, I don’t believe he’s untradeable.

  • LAJane

    It’s all too easy to jump to conclusions and start making up stories. Some of the Hornets fans still express frustration with what they still seem to see as Kemba’s habitual iso-style play, plus I must still have a little lingering ptsd from past teams. Generally I try to avoid negative scenarios, but looks like I might still be lingering in the shadows a bit much. Thanks for talking me back toward some sunshine 🙂

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No need to hope if Lin will, hope if he’s allowed.

  • Spot

    To me, right now, only 2 teams can give Jeremy a starting role:

    Sixers, cause Hinkie knows stats;
    Clippers, if Paul asks a trade in offseason cause Ballmer was a Harvard alumni.

  • MEL LIN

    Then I should be playing in the NBA I’m taller than Kemba lol

  • sws94

    Exactly. MDA has his limitations. Some have gone beyond him. And, as you said, having other playmakers is the way to go. And that’s what Clifford is doing. I think he is kind of a point forward even though he occupies the 2 position in the starting lineup.

  • sws94

    Batum is the point forward.

  • sws94

    If height were the only thing, there would be a lot more NBA players, lol.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Batum is allowed to shoot from anywhere anytime without consequences. He was .27% last night.

  • MEL LIN

    And me being Asian will not help

  • sws94

    That premise isn’t correct. As the PG for the 2nd unit there isn’t anything inconsistent in his role. He comes in around the same time most of the time unless injuries change the rotation patterns. He slides from PG to SG when Kemba is on the floor or the occasional times Roberts is. His minutes are a range from 20-28 minutes and if you look at other “back up” PGs, it is more than many of them with the usual amount of range.

    And he is the PG for the 2nd unit. Even when Batum is on with him. Batum will always be either the 1 or 2 playmaker when he’s on the floor because he’s earned the right to be with his play.

  • sws94

    Not at all. But Yao, Lin are pioneers. We have a long way to go but it is never easy. Please don’t lose faith.

  • sws94

    Well, I always love your posts. But I don’t know how much sunshine I have regarding Kemba and Lin. I think Lin/Batum can be a great tandem but Kemba just seems almost hard-wired at this point to play how he does. It goes against so many tendencies not to fall into his learned patterns and they surface as the game goes on.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You need to bring up all games up to last night, His min was ranged from 13-31, his role from PG one moment to sit in the corner the next. He’s the 2nd unit PG only when all Batum, Kemba and even Robert are not on the floor.

    Kemba was sick yesterday, otherwise he wouldn’t be used that much.

  • pandaboy99

    So people dont realize that when lin helps its the product of coaching decisions. Sometimes fans will call lin bone headed for helping too much when in fact hes just following the game plan!

  • Spot

    That’s the truth unfortunately

  • DX

    Unfortunately, Hornets isn’t Spurs and Cliff isn’t Pop.

  • jakey

    I think Spurs rested some of their key players too lol

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Interesting just to wonder why the media still talk about Linsanity then compared to Porzingis? Couple weeks ago they did a poll who’s better and yesterday they asked Mark Cuban what he thought of those two?

    Do NYers still miss Jeremy Lin?

  • Even with the inconsistency of the min & role (which Clifford attributed to matchup but I think it’s about shooting 9-10 FGAs, defense, rebounding over Lamb), Lin still helped Hornets win.

    Does Clifford see that JLin helps them win? I think he does. But he’s treading lightly to keep everyone happy to help them win.

    Lin is very tradeable & will help lots of teams but I just can’t see anyone with equal values to help Hornets.
    If Kemba is sick, JLin can step in smoothly. JLin is their insurance plan and empowers the bench for now.
    And JLin knows that. So it’s pretty good so far.

    I expect by end of season, if JLin continues to perform and help them win, Hornets would have to offer a bigger role to entice him to stay. JLin has to drive a hard bargain.

  • LinMad

    yes, I think they do. Or Porzingis just brings back memories of Linsanity.

  • Spot

    Linsanity 9-1
    Porzingis look at the standings

  • CJSHYY
  • yes, they’re thinking Porzingis is a consolation prize.
    But Linsanity winning record is much better than Knicks 10-12 record (#12 in East)

    If Knicks doesn’t make the playoff, Linsanity still had more impact than Porzingis.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It rocked the city and the whole world. Even city politicians got involved to solve cable contract so NYers can watch Knicks games.

  • DX

    Clifford had to say following practice Tuesday, Dec. 8. He praised Lin can play 2 & 1 and both effectively.

    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/2015/12/08/1449603407476-151208PracticeCoach.mov-160200

  • DX

    It seems Kemba has recovered.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    What’s your opinion if the lineup with Lin replacing Jose Calderon?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I hope he will put Lin on Wade tomorrow to have better chance to win.

  • CJSHYY

    He didn’t look sick to me last night. LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    Lin is on his favor list now?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Just got this from the other side, very good read:

    http://www.facebook.com/jeremylin7/posts/1709493672618567

  • LinMad

    Micromanagement. I think Lin takes orders from coach almost every play.

  • CJSHYY

    Wade? Why not Dragic?

  • As long as they share the ball, they can do well.

    They mentioned they’re close to last in fastbreak due to trying to master the triangle offense first.
    They played great vs the Hornets so I’m not sure why they’re slumping lately.

    But really, I doubt Melo or Dolan want JLin back. They weren’t interested last summer and it’s better that way

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Wade runs offense lots more.

  • David Kim

    When I went to watch the hornets vs Knicks game, I thought Knicks starting line up with Lin would be pretty good.

  • heart

    He can guard Dragic or Wade. He frustrated Wade last time. It has been proven that Lin likes challenge and can overcome if and when he gets Coaching/mgmt support.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so… but too bad, Lin didn’t back to NYK this season. smh!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I doubt it too, just curious.

  • David Kim

    I think it’s melo

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Dragic seemed to be doing much better next to Wade now. Just from check box score.

  • heart

    Finally! First time in a long time Cliff said positive thing about Lin w/o prompting.

  • CJSHYY

    On the first game Hornets vs Heat, he said the same about Lin….Haha!

  • CJSHYY

    Something changes now… I think they really going to play more Lin’s team ball now bc it works.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Anything else he said? Can’t put audio up at work at this moment.

  • LinMad

    This is why I love Jeremy Lin!

  • DX

    At least not in the doghouse.

  • rookie75094

    dolan still butt hurt over Jlin…haha…still searching for a Jlin equivalent. … keep searching petty guy.

  • JoeTeam

    great share!

  • LinMad

    i wonder how much of it had to do with the media/fan backlash

  • heart

    To the best of my audible ability, here’s a transcription of Cliff’s mentions of Lin after today’s practice 8 Dec 2015. Starting at mark 2:15, Cliff said: “…when you have guys to me that can play smart, for instance like Jeremy Lin, he can play the two; he can play the one, both effectively. And not only helps you in terms of you know where stretches when guys get hurt or into foul trouble, but…uhm you know you’re able to adjust the match ups during a game…”

  • CJSHYY

    I think more bc that lose to GSW show ISO is not working so they play more Lin’s team ball now.

  • JoeTeam

    Thanks, first time I heard Cliff talk. He sounds bball smart, we all might take stock of how we might be second guessing him vs McHale and Scott. This guy is a step or 2 above them in honest bball convo, and that may indicate he’s a wiser coach than we give him cred for …

    For example, grooming players up with humility, etc. The pace of contracts doesn’t allow him to do that in steps (JLamb), and if he goes by his experienced intelligence, it’ll be ok in the long run.

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! This is the best he talked about Lin so far since season started…. Can’t believe it…. LOL!

  • heart

    yep.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Something going on. Thank you heart.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It is.

  • heart

    any time.

  • CJSHYY

    Indeed. Something happened…. Well, as long as they can let Lin plays his game … it’s not matter what it’s…LOL!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin can do many different things but at least the min has to be consistent, 28 to 32 per night.

  • rookie75094

    Not getting my hope up to be disappointed again….it’s game by game for me.

  • CJSHYY

    I think he will get around 26, 27 min more or less….

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Any less would only hurt their chance.

  • CJSHYY

    If blowout game…

  • heart

    Very true. Me too.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s no issue. Kemba still can have his stats. LOL

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    100% agree.

  • Spot

    Wow. No matter what he’s a winner.
    If with his words can change one life, he’s accomplished more than an NBA Championship.

    Of course, hopefully, he can also do that. Cause he’s great in it too.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Wow, BS has declared war with Mitch? These two are his top picks.

    https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/674323557590114304

  • CJSHYY

    Randle was picked by Mitch but Russell was from BS’ idea. I believe BS’ decision sure got the approval by Mitch.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How do you know that?

  • rookie75094

    Haha. ..all the tanking for this???poor lakers fans. … on the other hand. ..tanker fans deserve this.lol

  • Rick Johnson

    He seemed to lack energy in the first quarter to me.

  • CJSHYY

    Randle was picked before they hired BS. They picked Russell bc BS suggested to Mitch… you can check the news…

  • 1mtoldman

    that would the obvious answer to at least part of the equation: the lakers were coachless when randle was picked. and on would assume (for the other part) that the then current coach (bs) would at least have input into the pick.

    the lakers spent a long vetting process (some may remember) before choosing scott, another reason for me to believe that got exactly who/what they wanted:

    someone to baby sit kobe and lose to tank to draft picks.

    whether scott was in on the deal or not was an open question but his increasingly bizarre statements this season seem to indicate he was not.

    (or else he’s going for a clinical insanity defense)

  • 1mtoldman

    dragic has not been able to be sucessfull with wade nor wade with dragic from the beginning.

    the reason dragic’s number have been down this year is once they cleaned out all the other point guards who wade could work with (ie pbev/ronnie price type nothings) it forced dragic and wade together more.

    perhaps over time dragic is starting to adjust and pick his spots.

  • 1mtoldman

    oh yeah of much faith.

  • CJSHYY

    To be honest, I really think these two really need to be on bench. I watched their games this season. They are not good. JC is the best among them. Last night they played their best game for this season from bench. BS of course it’s the worst thing can happen to Lakers. But FO wanted to do everything to please Kobe so…

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’m still hoping Lin can go back to New York next year….I’m hoping he will only be in Charlotte for 1 year and leave because MKG will be back and he’s a 30 minutes player..That would mean less time for Lin at SG and we know Kemba plays 35minutes per game at PG…So there won’t be any minutes for Lin next year in Charlotte.

    Knicks needs a PG badly and as you said, he’d be perfect replacement for Calderon who is 34year old.

  • 1mtoldman

    but they (the benched) were not happy about it. openly saying so, obviously churning up the already present kobe farewell tour + nick young + on and on drama. well it is hollywood.

    i guess its good (for okafor) that lakers by-passed him; if he can get in all the trouble he has in a short time in philiadelphia think of how much trouble he’d have gotten in in l.a.

    probably gone lamar odom them by now.

  • sws94

    Cliff is very basketball smart in concept and good with people, unlike Byron who insults his players for instance. Beyond that, his rotations don’t always agree with what he says. He’s not the offensive/defensive genius that Pop or a top coach is, but he does a decent job with offensive/defensive schemes and uses his time outs wisely.

  • It’s great that JLin took the time to write something meaningful to lessen the pressure that HS-ers and collegians put on themselves. This might help to prevent suicides that are so devastating to families & loved ones.

  • sws94

    He was pretty sick. He ran out of gas early in the 1st quarter. And in interviews you could tell he was sick.

  • Acbc

    Suns should have won one but was cheated by refs and league on a last minute flagrant on Nash that took Stat out of game 7. Spurs hard foul Nash with a goon when Nash was bringing up the ball. Stat reacted instinctively and jump off bench to protect Nash and was ejected plus was penalized one game.

    Spurs easily won the final.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    JC has most experienced. But he probably listens to the coach and Kobe more than Randle does at least. I think Russell should still play, he’s a rookie and he was beginning to figure things out.

  • JoeTeam

    I always watch for plays out of TOs to see how good a coach thinks, and so far, Luke Walton has done ok (maybe they are part of the coaching system). For Cliff, some have been good and a lot have been bad plays.

    So we agree sideways lol :-0 !!

  • CJSHYY

    These two are top pick but they are just not Ofafor or Porzingis. Lakers probably need them to have good stats so they can trade them in the future. Last night they played well off the bench. Feel sorry for them but….

  • 1mtoldman

    ill weigh in here on porz-god (as his fans call him) after watching the end of knicks loss last nite cause when kp had his first big game against hornets i was pointing out he hadn’t really done anything yet before that.

    but since then he has.

    he’s working his way already past okafor and headed to kat as rookie of the year.

    his play at the end of the game last nite was amazing he’s doing everything. he’s really knowledgeable and really works hard. and does things at 7’3″ that normally only a point guard or long range gunner could do. watch the tape of the last few minutes of that game and you will be impressed.

    calderon is arguably the worst veteran starting point gurad in the league at this point, yes lin would be unconcious with porzingis. but youd have to get rid of melo.

    which knicks fans have been wanting for sometime anyway.

    fantasy only some kind of 3 way trade that sends the melo one to la to replace kobe; some youngsters from the laekrs to charlotte and lin and ??? big al ??? & maybe marvin williams (so the hornets dont have to pay big all next year) to n.y. (knick go small to finish anyway and he wouldnt be worse than robin lopez).

    dreaming only.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Nobody will come until Kobe keeps his promise to stay retired and BS gets fired.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! That’s for sure. BS will out of Lakers along w Kobe.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No more protection.

  • i suggest this FB-post as something to maybe highlight on the page? jlin’s “performance” via this writing is more valuable, I think, than his having 20pts/10assts or whatever.

  • we can definitely create an article to feature the post later.
    The original article of Silicon Valley Suicides is quite sad

  • Briiick

    To save the shots and spotlight for Kobe ?

  • great, thanks!

  • Rick Johnson

    Exactly. They would need to get a coach that FA would want to play for. ?Thibs, ?Luke Walton

  • spiderman

    What are the estimated stats on that, Khuang?
    I know sports like Track & Field are notorious for roids, but I guess NBA is not exempt. I’m not aware of ANY testing done in this sport. I guess stronger muscles can also help the shooters touch (or at least the power, speed and leaping ability to get to the rim).

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    I’m forwarding JLin’s post to my high school kid and have her forward it to her friends. I read the Atlantic article by chance a couple of weeks ago and it was truly eye-opening in terms of the tremendous pressure high school kids feel these days to “succeed” in high school in order to “succeed” in life. It’s so great that JLin took the time to write the post.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    JLin’s response to The Silicon Valley Suicides (Post it for those can’t access to FB)
    https://www.facebook.com/jeremylin7/posts/1709493672618567

    As someone who was raised in the Bay Area, I’ve always taken great pride in being from Palo Alto – the greatest city in the world, as far as I’m concerned. Like many others, I read “The Silicon Valley Suicides” in this month’s Atlantic and it led me to reflect on my own experience at Palo Alto High School.

    http://theatln.tc/1NY7nlK

    The pressure to succeed in high school is all too familiar to me. I distinctly remember being a freshman in high school, overwhelmed by the belief that my GPA over the next four years would make or break my life. My daily thought process was that every homework assignment, every project, every test could be the difference. The difference between a great college and a mediocre college. The difference between success and failure. The difference between happiness and misery.

    I remember not being able to sleep well on Sunday nights, waking up covered in sweat from nightmares that I had just failed a test. I dreaded Sundays because it meant I just finished my weekend basketball tournament – my precious outlet from academics – and now faced a whole week of immense pressure at school. I felt the pressure coming from all around me – my parents, my peers and worst of all, myself. I felt that I had one shot at high school and that my GPA, SAT score and college applications were the only barometers of my success.

    One day, I remember attending a panel discussion where a college student was asked, “What is your
    biggest regret from high school?” Expecting to hear about opportunities missed or paths not taken, I was surprised when the student replied, “My biggest regret is not enjoying high school more and thinking that my grades and test scores mattered so much. In fact, I don’t even remember what I scored on the SATs.” I had filled out more Princeton Review practice test Scantrons than I could count and one day, I wouldn’t even remember my SAT score?!?

    As each year of high school passed by, I realized that even though there was pressure to be great, I had to make a personal choice not to define myself by my success and accomplishments. I learned through my brother, my pastor and my friends that my identity and my worth were in more than my grades. Growing up my parents always said, “Do your best and trust God with the results.” When I learned to truly understand what that meant, it was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders.

    Separating myself from my results is not an easy lesson and I’ve had to relearn this in every stage of my life. The world will always need you to accomplish more, do more, succeed more. After I got into Harvard there was the pressure to get good grades and stand out at Harvard. After Linsanity there was the pressure to have great performances every night, to become an All-Star, to win championships. I still dream big and give my all in everything I do, but I know that success and failure are both fleeting.

    When I was a freshman at Palo Alto High, a classmate who sat next to me committed suicide. I remember having difficulty registering what had happened. A year later, a friend committed suicide. I saw up close the pain and devastation of their loved ones and in my community. I realized then that there are so many burdens we don’t see the people around us carrying. I told myself that I would try to be more sensitive and open to other people’s struggles.

    We may not have the answers to how to completely solve these issues, but we can take more time to really listen to each other, to reach out and have compassion on one another. I don’t have any great insight and I don’t know exactly what it’s like to be a high school student today. I do know that I’m proud to be from Palo Alto, a resilient community that I see striving to learn how to better support and care for each other. I hope that my personal experience can remind someone else that they are worth so much more than their accomplishments.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s the big problem. There are always few cases each year for 2 to 3 years now… This year already 2 I think…..

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Happened everywhere. Just last week a very bright and also movie/TV star high schooler in Malaysia committed suicide because he couldn’t answer the high school exam. It shocked many.

  • CJSHYY

    Check this from LA time.

    Kupchak was interviewed before the Lakers lost to the Toronto Raptors, 102-93, at Air Canada Centre. He expressed support for Scott, who demoted promising young players D’Angelo Russell and Julius Randle for Monday’s game, ending their six-week run as starters.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    mmmh. Not very good! Most heartbreak when heard news like this. It’s so “preventable” as compared to those who suffered from terminal medical condition and accidents.

  • CJSHYY

    Most of the kids did this bc the pressure for get into brand name college…. few bc love.. lots of them are boys. (Asian)

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Wow, I head a couple of parent groups. I plan to organize a forum on this topic. Jeremy’s post reminded me of how pressing and urgent this issue is. We have to spread the message and the truth that we could be free from the pressure that seem so big.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes, this topic needs to address. I saw first hand of the devastation when I worked in hospital over 25 years ago. It was my first day of orientation. Couldn’t handle it and hence my assignments changed to adults after that.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That does not say Russel was BS’s idea.

  • CJSHYY

    This tell you Mitch agreed to send them to bench.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He supports coach decision as PR, I think they want good term when they fire BS after Kobe is gone.

  • Rick Johnson
  • Rick Johnson

    Just noticed something. GSW trying for their 23rd straight win tonight looking to top the NBA 33-0 record. If they make it that far guess who is the 34 team? Yep Hornets on 1/4/2016.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I can watch that 1000x.

  • CJSHYY

    I think GSW can beat Pacers today.

  • JJ Hui

    I dont know why that Vines Guys think it is childish. It shows they are friends and comfortable with each other and having fun! When they are off court i am sure they enjoy each others friendship!

  • Rick Johnson

    Reminds me of this:

    https://youtu.be/ZIHCW9xnv90

  • John Focker

    .27% is too low, like 3-1000 FGM/FGA. LOL

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Look like F word from Lin.

  • CJSHYY
  • occupatio

    i see. i didnt notice.

  • blaznazn22

    funny…batuum never plays pg but his assist ratio is still similar to lin and walker

  • Nick Young be like, “Let’s get this circus going”

    So glad we’re not stuck watching the same circus this season =)

  • occupatio

    you have no idea what youre talking about.

  • good for you.

    Yes, we need to spread this to parents because they can help their children by talking about it.
    It’s not the end of the world to fail, what’s important is to get up and try again
    I posted it on some parents group and youth group.

    This is so very important

  • Sunny Sullenberger

    Nick is more like this:”How many more times do we have to endure this circus show?” and he is secretly counting his fingers

  • Rick Johnson

    Swaggy looks like he’s scratching his thumb rather than clapping.

  • pandaboy99

    This is easy to fix. Just make it so that if noone commits suicide that year, 5 extra students from that high school get to go to stanford. All these over achieving students will then become the tightest bunch of students youve ever seen.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! In Detroit game, only Young & JC didn’t clay their hand…

  • your son’s voltaire

    he’s probably thinking, boy look at all these suckers

  • your son’s voltaire

    their reactions are so hilarious. like 3 kids

  • JLin Fan from Australia

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • 1mtoldman

    warriors need another league to play in. put up 44 on arguably their toughest opponent yet in indiana in the first quarter.

  • CJSHYY

    Pacers will loss this game. Cav didn’t do well so far vs Portland.

  • Rick Johnson

    infinity88‏@linfinity88

    micahannemarie: Trying to keep my cool in front of @JLin7 on the court,he shook my hand & said Yo to me… #DETatCHA

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/674390075203973120

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A blown out is a blown out. The Pistons is a very competitive team and the blown out happened when Kemba was sick and that would make the win sweeter.

  • JoeTeam

    there are so many JLin fans from across the spectrum, we only see a microcosm here. Thanks for reminding me it’s a bigger community out there.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    This Kobe thing is just so overdoing it.

  • Brent Yen

    And we will start to see ppl paying to kill someone for Stanford…jk

  • Brent Yen

    This has to be spread around as much as possible…not those NBA crap….

  • Warren
  • Rick Johnson

    Byron Scott is so egotistical and petty. He and Kobe are destroying the franchise and owners / Mitch letting them do it.

  • Rick Johnson

    Pacers not offering much resistance to GSW (28pt lead in 3rd qtr). They were supposed to be their biggest hurdle to their undefeated record. After that. Seems more and more likely they will be undefeated still on Christmas Day against the Cav’s. Going to be a big game.

    Celtics
    Bucks
    Suns
    Bucks
    Jazz

    Cavs

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think Cav can beat GSW either. They have hard time to beat Portland now….GSW is just too good.

  • sport

    r a The way GSW can lose is if they get bored of winning and lose focus. If not they can always aim as close as they can for a 82-0 record and make history.

  • noob

    you mean “Fudge” ?

  • CJSHYY

    Clippers? To be next to Johnson..?

    LakeShowLife has explored three possible tradedestinations for Young:

    1. To Atlanta Hawks for a return of Tim Hardaway Jr.

    2. To Los Angeles Clippers for a return of Lance Stephenson or Josh Smith.

    3. To The New Orleans Pelicans for a return of future draft picks.

    Where will Nick Young play when Christmas comes around? Only time will tell.

  • Warren

    i think Cavs would be a good destination for him. Cavs need some scoring punch from bench,

  • John Focker

    Wherever he plays, at least he will be playing. And not under BS. That’s all that matters.

  • grover chang

    Lebron will excuse himself from that game for rest.

  • grover chang

    I would be so upset if I was lance or Josh and came to clippers only to not play and get traded to the Lakers. Lol

  • 1mtoldman

    klay thompson injured late as starters had to come back in as bench gave away lead.

  • Warren

    Klay Thompson Goes Ballistic, Shoots 10/16 From Deep As Warriors Make It 23-0
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/klay-thompson-goes-ballistic-shoots-1016-deep-warriors-make-23-0-2347685.html

  • JoeTeam

    It was v close, and Draymond lost his cool and Klay rolled his ankle. 2nd unit let them have a run. Hope Klay is ok and we move onto Christmas!

  • JoeTeam

    they did that today, yep …

  • 1mtoldman

    but injured at end of game when had to return as bench gave away lead. could be costly win.

  • 1mtoldman

    2nite rockets starters: 29 pts bench 52 pts

    harden 1 of 7 for 6 points with 6 turnovers.

  • 1mtoldman

    way they can lose is if klay thompson injury (which shouldn’t have had to be in game then) proves serious.

  • John Focker

    Harden pushing to establish new stat: TO per FGM ratio.

  • grover chang

    I’m not holding my breath that hornets beat golden state. Even 42 minutes of Lin at the point would change the outcome.

  • JoeTeam

    I can’t believe he went out there and said he should have been MVP. Sometimes when people have money, they think they can just say what they want even if they can’t back it up.

  • Our friend JP from Jlinforum shared his observation on Hlin shooting form
    https://twitter.com/jlinforum/status /674410290377805826

  • JoeTeam

    Barnes, KT out, that is a serious thing. Bogut nursing a back. They have to focus on closing it out. I know 28 its uo gets boring, but the 2nd unit have to stay focused. We can’t afford to have the starters coming back in … too many games left for the streak and the season.

  • JoeTeam

    Delly will give it a PBev shot lol. I actually like St Mary’s Delly.

  • John Focker

    Mitch has little choice if wimpy Jimmy allows it.

  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    This works well.

  • Yascar

    Good share. Thank you both.

  • Lam

    Me too, I think the Hornet fans are reasonable and humbler because they never had much success before. Anyway I’m a sucker for underdogs, just like Jlin and Hornets (or Leicester City in the Premier league). Really hope they do well this year and not just because Lin is in the team.

  • John Focker

    Ty Lawson being buried in NBA’s PG graveyard (aka HOU). 0pts (0-3) 5 asts 1 stl 1 blk in 19 bench minutes.

  • AlexBB

    What is the chance of 82-0?? Any bets?

  • Briiick

    Happen to see Rox lose to lowly Nets LOL. It seems that the league isn’t selling fouls to Haren’s performance art as much as in last season, exposing him badly.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s weird. Why Harden took so less shots? Their bench played well almost could win the game for them. Thanks God, Nets won. LOL!

  • Briiick

    poor FG %, could not buy FTs as easy as before.

  • CJSHYY

    Lawson became really so so player in Rox now??! They don’t really trust him w D so he couldn’t get more min.

  • CJSHYY

    Rox starters played bad vs Nets….?! I really don’t think D12 will stay…

  • rookie75094

    Haha…beverly try to pick a fight with ref after the game…sore lllllloooossser!

  • Rzo Vlade

    he wants to be in L.A……..to be with khloe…….its the otherway of sying pls trade me to LA teams

  • Yascar

    When he finally leaves that team, I bet Nick will talk about how bad it was. I really can’t wait.

  • rookie75094

    Daryl Morey is shaking in his boots thinking about that scenario. ….he chose the wrong star… haha

  • sws94

    Watched the Cavs. They were playing terribly and turned it around in the 2nd half. LeBron is still the best in the game. He makes a lot of tough shots due to his great one-on-one moves, can hit jumpers and scores when he needs to but he’s just a great playmaker. But where he’s better than Curry is his physical presence and defense. He made 6 great defensive plays including 2 blocks. LeBron is still King.

  • John Focker

    Amazing as some of the tough shots are, having to shoot (and make) those shots means one of two things:
    1) Poor shot selection (ego? show off? not getting help?)
    2) Poor offensive strategy to create spacing for easy shots

  • sws94

    Not really. LeBron is just the go-to guy. When it came down to it, he couldn’t be stopped. But throughout the half the team executed. There were a lot of lobs in the game and good ball movement off of screens and so forth. But, if the shot clock winds down, LeBron still can deliver when needed.

  • sws94

    That would be good news for Nick’s sake. He’s not a bad guy and he’s in a terrible situation.

  • james brown

    i think clippers are ready for lance or josh smith trade..they are looking for takers as news got out recently..

  • Lin Win

    Pretty obvious he’s the first to go. Next will be D Bust for sure.

  • sport

    Yes you bet he will talk, he’s not afraid of speaking up even now even if it means DNP!

  • james brown

    i think this will be Jimmy’s second year to make LA a competitive one otherwise his sister will take over the operation and might get back Phil jackson to run the office..Goodbye BS, Mitch and jimmy!

  • thanks .. my phone wasn’t working too well earlier

  • JoeTeam

    we saw him v gsw. he’s not better than curry. that’s whuts got gsw winning mad.

  • grover chang

    Makes what Lin did in Houston more impressive.

  • grover chang

    New boss in Philly, Colangelo. The word is 76ers need to add veterans. Need vets other teams want to get rid of. How does a 76er line up of Lawson and Swaggy backcourt and Okafer, Noel, Josh Smith Front court sound.

  • Hope

    Jlin write well, very inspiring. Vs Miami 4/2/15.

  • sws94

    GSW is a better team. Curry doesn’t have the balance of a 2-way player that LeBron does. LeBron’s defensive plays and overall imposing presence I think still make him the better player. Curry is the better scorer.

  • sws94

    He probably may not even want to contribute anymore to the team. For the love of the game and maybe to the fans, but this team and coach, doubt it. Wonder if Lin, Davis, Booze, J Hill, Wesley or Ellington talk to him or Kelly, Sacre or anyone else on that team. The remaining guys who are not Kobe could use the support.

  • John Focker

    GSW is a better team because they really ARE a TEAM.

    In no way to diminish LeBron, a TEAM will always beat a STAR, no matter how good he is.

  • Warren
  • John Focker

    Not what I’m talking about… LeBron can still take the shot, but move the ball around so that there’s a BETTER (less or non contested) shot for him, or if someone else gets wide open, you know…

  • John Focker

    Such disrespect to BS! No warning to Tanker Supreme?

  • John Focker

    Absolutely. Lin gets benched and does a TD in under 30 min, Ty just mopes.

  • John Focker

    Better yet, I hope he writes a book and make some money on the side.

  • John Focker

    THIRD already.

    Never seen anyone dig his own grave better than Jimmy. If someone intentionally tries to ruin the Lakers any worse, he won’t be able to.

  • Warren

    BS vs Hinkie competing for award for Best Tank Commander

  • JoeTeam

    I wouldn’t underestimate Curry’s D. He’s pretty good.

  • JoeTeam

    Yep, and I think Curry is better than LeBron all the way around. Really.

  • John Focker

    No competition there, Lakers lost to the tanking Sixers. Philly out-tanked, case closed.

  • Warren

    Lakers Rumors: Lakers Ready To Trade D’Angelo Russell, Julius Randle For Demarcus Cousins
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-rumors-lakers-ready-trade-dangelo-russell-julius-randle-demarcus-cousins-2347739.html

  • spiderman

    I would add that Lin was never a liability on defense, so yeah that’s simply a myth invented by haters

  • Warren

    Come Christmas time, the Lakers starting lineup could feature Demarcus Cousins – Larry Nance Jr – Kobe Bryant – Lou Williams – Jordan Clarkson.
    http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-rumors-lakers-ready-trade-dangelo-russell-julius-randle-demarcus-cousins-2347739.html

  • james brown

    so its his last year of the 3 years jimmy promised that he will step down and will give the reign to his sister if things not worked out as should happen……lets see what comes next!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Randle + Russell for Cousins? I thought they tried before season started… but failed…(not sure at that time Lakers agreed to + Randle or not?)

  • spiderman

    Will continue to stink

  • Warren

    they will have to give up expiring contract of hibbert.

  • CJSHYY

    Cousins & Kobe? Not sure can they get along well? Fighting!!!

  • CJSHYY

    What plus Hibbert?

  • james brown

    cousins against kobe & BS..lets see what happens next????

  • sws94

    Not like LeBron. Not close. LeBron had 2 blocks tonight, and can guard 1, 2, 3, 4. I don’t even know if Curry can guard 2s. Even offensively there’s stuff LeBron can do from a presence and understanding of the game standpoint that I don’t think Curry quite has yet. Curry is great, but LeBron is ultimately one of the best ever. Maybe top 5 or 6. I think Curry is the best shooter ever, but overall player ever, don’t think he’ll be in the top 10.

  • james brown

    maybe a good landing spot for Jeremy comes for a trade or next FA…changes will happen and 76’ers has good pool of rookies who can be guided by JLIN to become powerhouse team…
    i kept on dreaming , Am I????LOL!

  • JoeTeam

    I dunno … you put them in the same series again and I still say Curry outplays LeBron overall.

  • spiderman

    Lebron also has the support of the referee association — he can travel til his heart’s content

  • Warren

    A package Hibbert, Randle and Russell should be enough.

  • JoeTeam

    Good one I saw a lot of that during the finals.

  • sws94

    That wasn’t my argument. That I know. But LeBron after watching him for years and watching a good amount of GSW games and their system, and seeing LeBron take a not great team to a finals and hang in with an injury plagued team last playoffs, is a force.

  • JoeTeam

    The point is to make your team great, not take a team on your back. That’s why LeBron is not as good as Curry or Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    For takemeback2reaganyears

    Here is the news you asked for it. From the above article.

    According to Yahoo Sports, the decision to bench Russell is puzzling since it was Byron Scott’s decision to pick Russell ahead of Jahlil Okafor in June’s NBA Draft. Stay tuned for Lakers Rumors.

  • Warren

    no doubt. imagine a starting 5 of Okafor-Noel-Ben Simmons-Stauskas-Lin

  • sws94

    Curry just can’t do all of the things LeBron can do. Defensively, LeBron is so far ahead. Put Curry on LeBron’s team and he probably can’t take them as far as LeBron can. GSW is a way better team than Cleveland.

  • sws94

    Huh? That’s exactly what LeBron did to the Cavaliers that made the finals in his early years as a player? They weren’t that good. And last year with all the injuries, it’s amazing that they got as far as they did with LeBron having to play and guard multi-positions both offensively and defensively.

  • CJSHYY

    What? Randle + Russeel don’t worth a lot in the league now… smh!

  • sws94

    Yes, you are. Philadelphia is a horrible team and has been for a long time. Lin is winning now and if he has to move somewhere, that is one of the least desirable places to go.

  • Briiick

    Moreover, Morey chose the wrong stud to replace the real star picked by his boss. There is going be a backfire sooner or later.

  • james brown

    get out of your dream too!!!..

    even JLIN wants a starting job and this season is just his stepping stone to further that, and the more Coach Cliff limits his time is way of seeing Jeremy’s foot is already at the door, UNLESS something happened that we aren’t expecting….A trade perhaps (not JLIN!)

    Somehow someway, changes are now being taken for the 76ers to stop doing what they are doing because it affects NBA itself. They Hired a New EMPLOYEE who is higher than any FO right now there. so changes will come, and this will MIGHT BE be a nice landing spot for JLIN just in case..

  • james brown

    that’s a very competitive five i believe!!!

  • Steppen03

    Agree! Lebron is the greatest player in this time. Look: you put Lebron on “any” team that team will be going to the playoff, and if you surround him with few key players the team will be a contender. You cannot say the same for another player.

  • spiderman
  • Steppen03

    It was a close one !
    Just so glad GS were able to hold it to the end. Pacers shown some hearts tonight, they’re a force – going to be Top 4 in EC. Pacers > Hawks > Raptors > Bulls.
    I’ll take 82-0 but that’s like… Impossible. I’m very, very happy if 75-7 .

  • spiderman

    I’d put my money on cousins. Blast both with one punch

  • cdblue10

    I don’t why Lakers can’t see this,Scott and Kobe ruined this franchise at the tail end of their careers,if the old Buss is still alive,he won’t allow this stupid*ty.

  • Steppen03

    Now, that’s Real Chemistry! Like them guys… just too bad JLin can’t find a big role there. They should have held onto Fredette.

  • Lin Win

    Lakers’ Russell: ‘There’s more ball movement’ without Kobe

    Russell…..you just bought yourself a one way ticket out of Fakerland.

  • Lin Win

    Rookies don’t win. 76ers have proven that time and time agan.

  • Warren

    injuries have killed them. first, noel missed his rookie year. then, embiid injured 2 years in a row. now, okafor controversies. they haven’t had any luck. but they will get ben simmons

  • james brown

    its the mentality that FO is doing to them right now..but given encouragement and drastic changes within the orgAnization can change even an average player in the nba in the likes of Jeffries, Novak etc…

  • occupatio

    that site is nothing more than clickbait. ive seen so many articles linked from there and so many are ridiculous.

  • Spot

    Colangelo to Sixers could bring D’Antoni in Philadelphia

  • Steppen03

    Yep. That’s what he want. And I think it’s good for his career. This Lakers team will be bottom feeders for long time. A very long time even after KB.

  • Briiick

    76’ers are doing their 3rd tanking, and LAL are doing their 2nd and should get a public warning too.

  • John Focker

    LeBron is GREAT on his own, but basketball is a team sport and a good leader is someone who LEADS the team to greatness, not CARRY the team to greatness.

  • I had the same thought.

    Will Colangelo try to recreate the Suns with MDA system?
    Jahlil Okafor can be Amare Stoudemire
    And who might be the perfect Steve Nash?

    If the unlikeliest turn of events happen, that’s another miracle waiting to happen!

  • Briiick

    Maybe it was Silver’s plan LOL.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Thanks, what I’ve never heard of doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

  • Joshua Harris, 76ers owner, reached out to Colangelo 2 weeks ago to save his franchise.

    He has the Harvard MBA degree but it would be interesting if Colangelo wants to replace coach right away or sticks with Brett Brown/

    It’s really hard to change the culture but Colangelo would be the one who knows how to do it. It will be interesting if he relies in old connection to MDA. Nothing is guaranteed for sure

    Check out the history of how Colangelo turned Sun’s 29 wins to 62 wins in 1 season (record 33 game improvement) by signing Steve Nash from DAL. They already had Amare for 2 yrs. MDA was a first year coach

    2004–07: Division Champions

    The beginning of 2004 saw the departure of the face of Suns management since the team’s inception, when Jerry Colangelo announced that the Phoenix Suns were to be sold to an investment group headed by San Diego-based business executive (and Tucson native) Robert Sarver for $401 million. However, the 2004–05 season marked the Suns’ return to the NBA’s elite, finishing with the best record at 62–20, and tying a franchise record set by the 1992–93 team. This was a major improvement from its 29-53 record just the season before. They ended up setting a team record for greatest 1-season improvement, 33 games. This feat was made possible by the off-season unrestricted FA signing of All-Star point guardSteve Nash from Dallas who had formerly played for them at the beginning of his career. Nash went on to win the MVP award that season. Amar’e Stoudemire and Shawn Marion were named All-Stars and first year coach, Mike D’Antoni, was named NBA Coach of the Year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Suns

  • spiderman

    Lol who is she?

  • Spot

    Lin Lamb and Kaminsky for Noel and and Wroten.

    Then Nick Young for a second rounder.

    Anyway, it really could be another miracle. But let’s not build castles in the sky and see what happens.

    D’Antoni+Hinkie’s stats could do great things.

  • Spot

    He’s from Harvard???

    Please God, let it happen!

  • spiderman

    Kobe Dearest

  • UPenn undergrad & Harvard MBA but at least there’s a connection =)

    What’s important is if Colangelo would bring up MDA name by end of season (or sooner)
    I’d imagine changing a coach is a must to change a losing culture.
    The talents are so raw. It’d be hard to win some games with young guys. A lot of good vets will be needed

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! He’s from Harvard.

  • Acbc

    Hinkie will be gone soon. The myth of Morey and bball analytics is falling flat on the face. Both master and disciple treated players like fantasy chips believing that one great one would save them. Look where Houston and Phili is, they are twin loservilles.

  • Spot

    Teams is pretty good.

    They only lack a PG and a SF. Lin+Nick Young and they can start winning.

    Stauskas is a great 3 pointer. Okafor is a beast. Convigton and Canaan 2 great role players. If Embiid comes back too…

    If they want to win they must change fast and they could make the play-off.

    It would be another film story made by Jeremy 😀

  • occupatio

    Lin on Sixers next year would be excellent. They’ll have nice talent for Lin to work with, and no longstanding ‘stars’ on the team that have a sense of entitlement.

  • occupatio

    wow, i missed this. i guess its time to stop by CF for some enjoyment.

  • Spot

    This year. ASAP.

  • occupatio

    hrm, did you watch the game? the boxscore is so weird. thornton took 18 shots, while harden took only 9, with 6 FTs.

  • occupatio

    anyone see the rockets-nets game? besides nets shooting really well, what happened? lol

  • Yascar

    Harden appeared to be either totally disengaged or hungover. I’m not joking.

  • occupatio

    he only took 9 shots. thornton took 18.
    what? even drunk harden would take more shots, i would think.

  • Yascar

    I don’t really know but he was just so off. Howard was awful as well but seemed to put in a bit of effort. Lawson didn’t even score (took 3 shots) and Beverley got into a fight with the referee in the end.

    Oh how the mighty have fallen.

  • occupatio

    im still marveling at the boxscore. harden had 7 TOs.
    brewer took 16 shots. thornton, 18. lol, what is this?

  • Yascar

    It was just really strange. I guess Harden is such a focal point of their offense that I think he threw everyone off with how bad he was. He really looked like he just got up and was almost sleepwalking.

    Thornton very nearly saved the day. The bench was obviously trying to do something because the starters just stunk.

  • occupatio

    lawson had more blocks than pts. haha. sorry, this boxscore is amazing. i cant stop looking.

  • Acbc

    The fact you start the comparison with Curry on an individual skill means already you’re going down a metric discussion that matters little in a game that is played as a team. This particular metric of physicality presumably makes one player more valuable than a team is why the game has degenerated to the stat lockers of Houston Rockets change room. You are comparing apple to grapes.

    Lebron was and always will just the physical grunt that tower over all others by his physicality and yet he’s only won 2 rings? Why? The same excuse that he made before leaving for Miami was that he can’t do it alone, just as he complained in last year’s final. That in a nut shell is why Lebron will never measure up to the greats of the game. Lebron never had any formal discipline of learning the game as others have and his lack of team play is why his record isn’t that great. He’s playing checkers like a superman, but he can’t compete against teams that play him on a chess board. He simply doesn’t undertsnad the intricacies of team play. Lebron needs others to make the team function as a team for him. Lebron needed Wade and Bosh to form the platform for him to perform, without that, he runs basically solo without knowing really how to elevate others on his team.

  • occupatio

    yeah thornton’s stat line is amazing. ive seen him get hot for 3P streaks. i guess that happened tonight.

    imagine lin taking 18 shots for a game. thats just crazy.

  • occupatio

    i looked at reddit post-game thread, and ppl said that harden got doubled every time he touched the ball. that worked.

  • Yascar

    They better get it together soon. Any more nights like this and they might just miss the playoffs. They’re lucky the West isn’t very good this year.

    Oh and there’s speculation that the Rockets had too much fun at Dwight’s 30th birthday party. Might explain why they looked half asleep on the court.

  • John Focker

    Such an expressive, well-versed piece, makes me wish Disqus had a bookmark function.

  • occupatio

    i read that rockets have never won by double digits this year.
    their average pt differential is -4.4
    think about that. they are even worse than their record indicates.

  • blubell

  • blubell

  • Rick Johnson

    Kardashian curse

  • occupatio

    why is lin’s block on nene not in here?

  • John Focker

    I doubt someone with so little dignity would actually keep his word. Would be pleasantly surprised if he does.

  • John Focker

    Copyright it! LOL

  • John Focker

    Never forget that the team literally has nowhere else to go but UP!

  • John Focker

    George Karl would probably be for it… 🙂

  • Warren
  • JeremyLinthebest

    Wow, very very well-said.

  • 1mtoldman

    a wise thought for all reganites…or old men (like u n me) in general.

    or maybe we did hear of it we just…”can’t recall”.

  • 1mtoldman

    the 50 point loss th spurs with most spurs starters sitting out i think was the last nail in the hinkie coffin.

    im very pleased with this. was so sick of pundits and fans generally still buying into the con job that old stock spinner hinkie was pulling with his “process”; like he’s some kind of genius.

    one writer noted that bringing in coangelo (who’s arguably the godfather of basketball operations in the nba) effectively means hinkie is “fired” regardless of what is being spun.

    no one deserves their head on a pike more. what he was doing besides being fraudulent and doomed to fail was not only bad for basketball but bad for sports generally.

    morey could be next if alexander still has any part of a brain left, but at that point still up to organization (team) here it was the orgainization (league) just had enuf, other teams were losing too much revenue to the

    less than d-league status of the tank team in philly.

  • 1mtoldman

    hinkie so-called stats are what are responsible for this mess; with coangelo there hinkie can take a back seat on the bus. or hopefully under the bus.

  • 1mtoldman

    its was even more fun while happening. at one point the rockets bench had outscored the starters something like 60 to 20 something.

    harden most of the game had more turnovers than points.

    and it wasn’t like the starters weren’t getting minutes. thornton and brewer were doing all the scoring.

    yes rockets are much worse than record; especially early in the season like this a much more reliable gauge is team point differnetial and rockets have been down on the bottom all year.

    its been pointed out before than when things start to go south for harden he just sort of gives up, tunes out;

    no heart of a champion here. champion partier maybe.

  • John Focker

    I just shuddered at a thought…what if Hinkie joined BS in LA in any capacity?!

    Greatest tank in human history!!!

  • 1mtoldman

    miami early in the season has benefited from a schedule quirk of playing 14 of their first 19 games at home! this is not even close to being matched by any other team as most all teams are somewhere close on either side of 50/50.

    and as we know espeicaly in nba; home team wins the majority of the time; ie. home court advantage means more in nba than any other professional sport.

    this game will be a good test to see how heat do outside the “freindly confines” where they have (to date this season) not had to venture often.

    so thats one thing in hornets favor.

    note: on furhter examition the lakers are at the other end of the scale having played a high porportion of their games on the road, thats probably the ONLY reason for their lack of success this season.

    ….hahahaha.

  • rookie75094

    Jlin is known to be a miracle worker.

  • JoeTeam

    Sorry, I don’t agree …

  • JoeTeam

    It’s ok, I don’t agree.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    First time in 3 years, Lin has a real coach and what has happened to his game is phenomenal. He has developed to be a great defender, a great player off the ball and his crossovers and dribblings have fooled even the elite players like LeBron James. Now let me ask you a question. Have you seen the best of Jeremy yet?

  • adele

    Praying for another miracle as always. Somehow I have a feeling its going to happen.

  • Brewkowski

    According to the local paper, it’s the other jl that’s on track for 6th man of the year…
    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article48703410.html

  • xeroid

    The total turnovers by both teams were ridiculous, each team was more than 20 and close to 25, and Jeremy was called a TO machine by Rocket analysts. I laughed.

  • Brewkowski

    Our boy is growing up to be such a fine young man

  • Brewkowski

    No technical for Bev? No suspension? Can’t find any news about this. 🙁

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    All you need is a good coach and the TO machine becomes one of your most reliable ball handler.
    Lin didn’t have this kind of luxury under ex-NBA player as coaches for 3 years

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I don’t think so. George Karl finally has something good going for his team. I’m sure they will catch up and becomes a playoff team this year.

  • Spot

    Always same things. When will they stop?

  • Spot

    Really hope you’re right

  • Yascar

    At this point in the season, Lamb is statistically better on offense (although clearly no comparison on defense), and it helps that he’s been such a surprise. Let’s see if that’s sustainable.

    I don’t actually mind if our Jeremy doesn’t win that so long as he keeps improving and is an impactful player. Jeremy will carve his own destiny.

  • LinLinLin

    I have tears of joy reading this…

  • Brewkowski

    The marginalization is constant and unfortunately expected. I don’t know what I’d do if Lin is treated like any other player. Probably die of shock.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Ours?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No, jeremy worked on his own to improve his defense, it has nothing to do with this coach.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    This coach benefits everything lin has learned in the past three years, the ability playing off the ball.

  • sws94

    I disagree. In fact, I find LeBron more of a team player than Michael Jordan was. I just have to disagree with you. I think LeBron is a fine leader, didn’t bully people as much as Jordan or Kobe did. MJ won due to staying with the same team and system and having help like Pippen and Paxon and Kerr. Kobe had Shaq. Right now LeBron went to a mediocre team. He has talent around him, but they are often injured and he didn’t have key guys playing in the playoffs last year and still made it to the finals.

    The comparison is to Curry because people are saying Curry is the best player in the league. I haven’t seen that watching both for years and many games this season. LeBron still is the all-around best player in the game actually based on his team play and how when needed he can carry the team but he also makes the team better with his great playmaking, rebounding, defense–he makes big defensive plays when needed, he close to shut downs 1s, 2s, 3s and 4s yet they can’t shut him down, and his physical presence almost makes him a rim protector. He also can score from the post, perimeter, and finish incredibly well around the well with either hand. Yes Curry is a brilliant shooter, great ball handler and passer and can put up a lot of points, but he also benefits from being on a great team with other great 3 point shooters and scorers and ball handlers and they have versatile players like Green. Nobody like Green exist on the Cavs, well, except for LeBron.

    All great teams need more than one great player and most often a great coach. But for now, LeBron’s combination of skills and leadership has him number 1. I have not seen a selfish player with LeBron. In fact, the rap on him is he wasn’t selfish enough and didn’t put his team on his back enough. He’s found the right balance now.

  • David Kim

    Here’s how it breaks down year-by-year (note: the Sixers owe the Kings one future 2nd-round pick).

    2016: Four 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick

    Own 1st-round pick
    Los Angeles Lakers 1st-round pick (top-3 protected)
    Miami Heat 1st-round pick (top-10 protected)
    Oklahoma City Thunder 1st-round pick (lottery-protected)
    Denver Nuggets 2nd-round pick
    2017: One 1st-round pick, one 2nd-round pick

    Own 1st-round pick
    Own 2nd-round pick
    2018: One 1st-round pick, three 2nd-round picks

    Own 1st-round pick
    Own 2nd-round pick
    Brooklyn Nets or Cleveland Cavaliers 2nd-round pick (the 76ers will receive the better of the two)
    Los Angeles Clippers or New York Knicks 2nd-round pick (the 76ers will receive the better of the two)
    2019: One 1st-round pick, three 2nd-round picks

    Own 1st-round pick
    Own 2nd-round pick
    New York Knicks 2nd-round pick
    Milwaukee Bucks or Sacramento Kings 2nd-round pick (the 76ers will receive the better of the two)
    2020: One 1st-round pick, three 2nd-round picks

    Own 1st-round pick
    Own 2nd-round pick
    Brooklyn Nets 2nd-round draft pick
    New York Knicks 2nd-round draft pick
    2021: One 1st-round pick, two 2nd-round picks

    Own 1st-round pick
    Own 2nd-round pick
    New York Knicks 2nd-round draft pick
    Other notable assets:

    Future 1st-round draft pick from the Sacramento Kings (top-10 protected)
    Dario Saric (2014 1st-round pick who is playing overseas)
    The right two swap 1st-round picks with the Kings in two more drafts
    The most important year is 2016. If all goes according to plan, the 76ers could have four 1st-round picks — their own, the Lakers’ (if it falls outside the top-three), Miami’s (if it falls outside the top-10), and OKC’s (if it falls outside the lottery).

    In total, the 76ers already have 10 extra picks in the next six drafts. In addition to acquiring so many future assets, they’ve also given up very little. Hinkie has only dealt one future draft pick, a 2016 2nd-rounder.

    If they sign MDA and Lin , I think they can win championship in 5 years. They already have good players and so many picks to trade for good players or pick good player every year.

  • CJSHYY
  • heart

    I do mind if Lin does not win. Lamb has been catered, given more minutes and bigger role. Lin has to work hard for everything he’s earned so far.

  • heart

    And some Lin fans are just happy w/ him getting ‘crumbs’/’leftover’, while knowing that the scale of treatment are tipped in favor of other players. Forgetting that while being suppressed, Lin’s skills are still able to shine, therefore, Lin deserves the ‘sixth man award’ nomination more than anyone else on his team.

  • KHuang

    That’s a lot of picks for Jerry Colangelo to mess up with.

  • @JLin7 fans, let’s kick-start 2015-16 JLinPortal Fundraising for JLin Foundation so we can present the check on Jan 6 Hornets vs Suns game.
    Total = $100
    http://www.jlinportal.com/2015-16-jlinportal-fundraising-for-jlin-foundation/

    Here are the steps:
    1. Donate directly to Jeremy Lin Foundation on their website (to get US Tax Deduction if you qualify)
    Add ‘Collective Fundraising Effort by JLinPortal members‘ note in the Comment section to let them know it’s part of a group effort. http://www.jeremylinfoundation.org/
    2. Send a copy of the email receipt to jlinportal@gmail.com so I can add the total in the post and your name in the card for Jeremy. You may choose to be anonymous.
    3. Present card with donation list to Jeremy Lin on Jan 6 2016

    Let’s make a difference by supporting Jeremy Lin Foundation together! Deadline is Jan 3, 2016

    Thank you for all your support. Let’s hope and pray JLin will continue to make an impact on-court and off-court!

    Last season’s $4100 JLin Foundation check presentation
    https://twitter.com/YeungPhoto/status/557438773416697857

    Here is Part 1 of JLin’s Q&A on Jan 19, 2015 with his response to appreciate his fans effort

  • a lot of things would have to go right for sure.

    I’m only focused to see if Colangelo will ask for MDA’s help =)
    The rest will follow

  • adele

    Exactly! Thank you Heart for sharing your opinion. I always read them.

  • Please help to retweet JLinFoundation Fundraising effort.
    Thank you =)

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/674637360282267648

  • adele

    He has to make the most of what was given to him. He always work his way through the obstacles. Like water that finds its course.

  • SuperJeremyBros support as 6th Man of The Year (despite votes might cancel each other)

    https://twitter.com/bolero2010/status/674639696752848896

    Jeremy Lamb, given consistent minutes for the first time in his career, has become a dependable scoring spark off the bench. Jeremy Lin is playing his best basketball since the Linsanity stretch, and has become a crucial component of the team.
    ..
    I would be remiss if I didn’t start pushing Jeremy Squared for Sixth Man of the Year honors. Lamb and Lin have been the key to the revival of Charlotte’s bench, which is now one of, if not the best in the league. The two combine to average 22.8 points, 7.7 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.4 steals and 1 block in an average of 23.6 minutes per game. The biggest issue the two may have would be that they may take votes away from one another.

  • heart

    Thanks Adele.

  • blaznazn22

    ” He signed Lin when no other team would sign him.” Im pretty sure there were like at least 10 teams interested in signing lin…the spurs and warriors being two, the bulls, mavs, bucks, lakers, rockets, nuggets, nets, suns, pacers as well. Spurs don’t just want to sign anybody, they never sign people who Pop thinks are scrubs or doesn’t think can contribute…its an exclusive club and even being considered for the team is a big honor.

  • Rzo Vlade

    stop postimg garbage hive…sentence nobody want to sign him

  • I missed that one. That was certainly a false statement.
    It’s well known JLin chose to sign with Hornets when it was not in his radar because Clifford convinced him after talking on the phone for 5 hrs. Cho even flew to JLin’s house to have him sign the contract before anything like Deandre Jordan fiasco happened.

  • CJSHYY

    Just like Lin & Boozer last season. smh!

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674652082910052352

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Don’t click for them. I know lots of Lin’s fans don’t even follow them anymore. In fact, what they said mean nothing to the team at all. Only Pete Gueli and Rick Bonnell that count.

  • Setting the record straight about the latest false statement at AtTheHive article about “Cho signed Lin when no other teams wanted to”. I agreed with good comment on 6MOY but nicely corrected the false statement.

    Even AtTheHive 7/10/15 own article contradicted that statement:

    He had other offers for more money from other teams but decided to rebuild his image by moving to the east coast and settling in Charlotte instead.”

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/674657399613984768

  • blubell

    If no other team wanted to sign Jeremy why did Cho fly all the way to Palo Alto to get the contract signed!

  • He was afraid JLin might pull a Deandre Jordan locking himself in a house while Cuban tried to come in LOL

  • blubell

    I keep forgetting to donate… will get on it soon! 🙂

  • Check out excellent Adi Joseph article on JLin’s time in Charlotte.

    This is the most important statement from JLin:

    “They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands,” Lin said last month.
    https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/674651389876936704

  • blubell

    I think that was part of the reason because CHA tweeted the pic of Jeremy Lin signing the contract and that to lock him in a closet until it is finalized LOL

  • LAJane

    Why not ours? Dedicated fans. Of course we are a very large, world wide “we”, expansive enough to be pushing the limits of what “ours” could mean…but what the heck 🙂

  • blubell

    Very humble 🙂
    “He was a shooting guard in college, he’ll remind you (without bringing up that the college was Harvard).”

  • blubell

    No, It should be “Mine”…. all mine! LOL.

  • yes, it was a big signing for Hornets and quite a steal!

    That’s why this revisionist history needs to be set straight politely =)

    We really need a timeline page so we can go back and get these links easily

  • blubell

    Why does this always happen to Jeremy with contracts? *sigh* why did he sign with HOU and not NY? No other team wanted him? blah blah blah. So sad that misinformation gets spread around.

  • heart

    I’ve noticed that Lin has been more vocal to set the record straight when things get out of hand this season. I hope Lin will continue to do so. Only then the press has something to write about, hence the past false narrative can be mitigated and corrected for the record. I like Psalm highlighted statement from Adi Joseph’s article: “They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands,” Lin said last month.

  • Rick Johnson

    From that sportingnews article they referred to production by position. It allows one to look at statistics when playing a position. JLin’s stats were always diluted by him playing SG half the time as opposed to Walker playing PG. Now this chart shows stats when split out when he’s playing PG. And not surprisingly they are better across the board to Kemba:

    http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/nba-playing-time-estimates-by-position/

    Walker
    NetRtg 0.1
    eFG 49.1%
    Points per 36 18.5
    Asst per 36 4.9

    Lin
    NetRtg 14.9
    eFG 50.6%
    Points per 36 20.2
    Asst per 36 6.1

    So even in a shooting slump his eFG is better than Walker who is shooting the best in his career. Critics will still say though that Lin is playing against lesser competition though.

  • heart

    Yep. Cho knew he had a bargain and was probably afraid that Lin would change his mind or other teams would change Lin’s mind, IMO.

  • Briiick

    No, we want Lin to be the All Star.

  • CJSHYY

    Well said Lin. ““They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands,” Lin said last month.

  • heart

    Yep, Hornets were afraid that Lin would do the ‘Jordan’ on them?

  • CJSHYY

    I like that too. Haha!

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh oh. There will be retribution. Didn’t Russel learn from Swaggy about speaking Kobe’s name in vain

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674653678272438273

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Excellent research.

  • sws94

    He doesn’t deserve any respect. I hope he never gets a coaching job anywhere again when the Lakers come out of their fog and fire this fraud.

  • Briiick

    Agreed. One tanking team means one-thirtyth of the TV revenue of the league is thrown in the water.

  • sws94

    Co-6th man of the year? I guess that’s not possible. I don’t even know if either one will get it. Where I disagree with PFV is him saying Lamb is 6th man. I don’t think so. I think it looks like Lamb is for a few games, then Lin, then Lamb. Ultimately, since Lin’s defense is better and his ability to make big plays in the clutch, I think Lin may get the tip for the 6th man usage. And yes, that’s with him coming off of the bench usually 9th. But even that may change later in the season.

  • sws94

    Some of the writers are good, others aren’t. Anyway, some Lin fans were over-the-top there and stirred every comment section into a Lin discussion. That shouldn’t happen on Hornet-specific sites so I don’t blame some of them for not welcoming those types of fans.

  • This youngster is not wise
    DNP will follow, or even worse 10min PT to destroy stats

    But it could be purely “accidental” =)

  • sws94

    Young and unwise moment from the rookie.

  • CJSHYY

    OMG, Russell really can’t wait to be traded…

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s not wise to do so when you are still on the team w him. 19 years old….

  • he’s definitely frustrated and not thinking straight.
    Someone needs to give him advice before his career stops to a halt

  • Hinkie is ‘essentially’ fired.
    What will Colangelo do next?

    https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNBA/status/674670039648174081

  • Rick Johnson

    Maybe he wants to be traded along with Swaggy.

  • KHuang, do you think Colangelo will call upon Mike D’Antoni?

    IMO Brett Brown would eventually have to go to do house-cleaning on the losing culture
    But not sure what Colangelo would do next

  • if you want to come on Jan 6 game, let me know =)

  • Rick Johnson
  • DX

    He is a really good actor. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    No more dumping ground for Morey anymore.

  • Rick Johnson
  • wow.. Big Al, why?
    To lose weight or for not playing?

  • spiderman

    Unfortunate situation. I hope this means Hansbrough gets more play time, but probably not likely

  • DX

    It means he will miss next 5 games?

  • Rick Johnson

    He will miss 5 games more than he otherwise would have after recovering from his injury.

  • Rick Johnson

    devin kharpertian
    ‏@uuords
    I believe there’s only one anti-drug violation that comes with a five-game suspension: testing positive for marijuana three times.
    https://twitter.com/uuords/status/674681653311184896

  • CJSHYY

    Why NBA knew Al use drug?

  • 1mtoldman

    drug testing?

  • 1mtoldman

    wow. anyone see this one coming?

    legalize it!!!!!

    dont know big al doesn’t seem the ganja type.

  • 1mtoldman

    genius fired. who could imagine.

  • 1mtoldman

    if you took time to “set the record strait” on every dubious statement on at the hive you’d have a full time job. imo its not a credible site; the lakersnation of charlotte.

    if you want some thoughtful moderated reasonably balanced debate on hornets you need to go to charlotte realgm. (again imo).

  • 1mtoldman

    so he has to be ceritifed as off whatever sort of equivalent of the dl is in nba and only then would his suspension begin? yes?

    could that be juggled as desired by team? ie. if they want him back; ok hes ready to play now (even tho hes not) and then take his suspension, or if they dont want him back; hes not ready to play yet (even tho he is) and extend his abscence?

    ie. who determines when his injury time off is over and his suspension time off begins?

  • heart

    Hornets will have more reasons to trade AJ now… Very sad for both sides. And it happens on AJ’s contract year?

  • Acbc

    Lol, lol.

  • heart

    Zeller and Kam will get more PT like the last game.

  • Acbc

    Panzer division. They’ll never run out of gas if they can somehow harness all that biofuel from BS piling up for 2 years.

  • Acbc

    Morey will be gone soon, if not by January. Les has already put him under notice. Harden is making sure that his benefactor gets fired. Lol. What an ingrate.

  • blubell

    I thought about it but unfortunately, it is middle of the week. If it was close to the weekend, I would definitely go 🙂

  • Acbc

    He instrumental in resigning Nash who was let go to Dallas. Mark Cuban gave up on Nash just as he had turned the Mavs around. The Suns almost got down on their knees to get Nash back. They asked the owner to attend in person to make a pitch to Nash to convince him to resign with them. Cuban gave up the MVP Nash for a up and coming hotshot that turned into a dud. Lol. Cuban talks big like he’s some sort of bball genius, but he’s made a lot of questionable moves to sabotage the team.

  • yeah, I prob. won’t have time to do it full-time for them 🙂

    It’s just a dig that’s so wrong. Even their own article contradicted them.

  • yeah, it’s pretty bad

  • probably through some random drug-testing

  • DX

    Maybe not, Hornets won’t extend him anyway. Hope trade a young C who could and would like to PnR.

  • new game thread is open
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g21-mia-cha-game-thread/

    1. Would the Hornets take the home game against the Heat after losing the 1st game on the road?
    This win can potentially place the Hornets as the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference standing so it is an important game.

    2. Will JLin play well against the always-tough-Miami-trapping defense?

    Let’s go, JLin! Let’s continue to shoot at least 8FG & 4 FT attempts. Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens

  • John Focker

    I hope the Lakers keep him forever, it’s the only justice.