G20 DET @CHA Notes & Observations

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Til sunrise? He needs to get some sleep. Doing all nighter video games must mess up your biorhythm.

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when lin is in as the third guard next to batum and kemba, he will rarely see the ball.

when he is the exclusive playmaker next to lamb, they run many sets for lamb, so there really is not much dynamic reading-the-defense role for lin to play. tonight lamb shot 11 times, and often its just lin waiting for lamb to run around offball screens (which lamb isnt very good at doing, actually. he turns too slowly.)

there are not enough pick and rolls for lin. its mostly setting up lamb. so its hard to see much scoring production from lin aside from in-the-flow offense. thats fine but the rest of the team do not really play ‘in the flow’ so hes going to get the short end of it.

overall, it is not at all obvious that setting up lamb is more efficient than playing four out and letting lin run high PnR. proportionally, there isnt enough of lin. lin has shown he can regularly get at-the-rim assists with pick and rolls. he does that better than anyone on the team, and its not even close.

like tonight, he should be able to dominate some stretches but he is disinterested. the disinterested lin is evident when he overpasses and forces passes into the paint instead of just shooting it himself.

Yes!!!heat lose!!!

That is funny. It means you have to graduate from Harvard.

Most of the losses that Clifford and CHA fans deemed “acceptable” look awful now. Heat, Hawks and Cavs are far from great, especially this early in the season. Not playing Lin down the stretch cost them at least 3 wins.

that’s not a good answer.. it shows you are a mama’s boy. lol
but I guess I couldn’t even come up with something better without insulting her.

i don’t think this is a diss on Lin. I think what Cuban is saying is that Lin had to work hard to get where he is now whereas Porzingis is a natural.

ok fair enough.

what is that fragic stats?

Be nice if Phoenix can beat Chicago. Especially with Miami losing.

I don’t like Hawes as the big man next to Lin but Lin made the best out of it.
JLin got excited with nice overhead assist to Hawes for a dunk so he tried to be too fancy with a difficult pass in traffic.

But he’s slowly finding his balance to facilitate and shoot 9-10 FGAs which would be good to earn him 25+min in the past 2 games.

I wish Clifford will play Hansbrough more with the 2nd unit instead of Hawes.
Kam & Hawes gave too many rebounding to Pistons at 1 stretch.

maybe that’s why cuban didn’t make lin a bigger offer.

Didn’t you notice her handle. ..ashhole…. mod don’t ban me…lol

could be 18 and 7 if
1) he gets a 88% ft shooting
2) he gets his 3 pointer to over 36%
3) his teammates doesn’t have butterfingers or that they know when lin will pass out of the blue or that they know how to roll with him where hawes starting to get.

notice how slowly lin walked the ball up tonight, unlike his usual style of pushing the pace and looking for transition opportunities.

the reason is that they were running many set plays for lamb with lin as distributor.

yeah well, 15/5 is the BOTTOM AVG.

I thought he was just playing under control and controlling tempo with a big lead. His TOs are way down of late, even adjusted for minutes/touches.

https://twitter.com/FSKPart3/status/674060890270863361

I don’t know…but he committed a crucial offensive foul…that may have cause the Miami luke warmth the game…hehe

I don’t think there are many players on Hornets who can push the pace with Lin. Which is why I felt earlier in the season, Lin wasn’t getting a fair shake cause he was making “circus” plays according to Clifford.

Truth! Lin will often speed ahead for a fastbreak…but no one can/will pass him the ball. Or Lin will go into the teeth of the offense, but no big will follow for an easy dunk.

it makes a big difference the kind of big man the PG gets to play with. reggie can be dangerous cuz he gets to play with drummond, but when drummond is not in the game — like long stretches tonight — reggie becomes much less effective. tonight, with drummond in early foul trouble, reggie was a non-factor.

al can’t be trade..
he hurt..who would want him when he hurt.
(yes, I know that is broken english.. I did it on purpose =)).

https://twitter.com/hornets/status/674052629945647107

Ya! Hornets fans seem to like Lin a lot.

I am glad to see another media joining Greg in the basketball to speak for Lin on the regular basis.

they rooting for him. I’m pretty sure many are Lin fans and just want to see him succeed in Charlotte.

Hornets needs to keep playing Lin 27 minutes and they’ll be 1st team in EC a week from now. My prediction that they’ll be top 4 team in EC will come true soon.

doesnt matter much what his minutes are if he is often playing next to kemba.

Been busy with work, but I’m back.

I’m just glad that Lin got his.

But the free throws? ARGH!

lin leads one of the top benches in the league, while not interfering with the team ‘stars’ getting their stats. and lin’s contract is cheap. no way charlotte trades lin.

Probably Lin won’t get any offers, but your optimism is admirable.

I expect Lin to come back to the Hornets next season, but I also expect the Hornets to draft a rookie PG or shop for a more expensive veteran to replace Lin even if Lin comes back for another $2 million.

No matter how much Lin produces, his race and his unwillingness to abuse PEDs makes him unwanted around the NBA.

Bulls lose

I could picture Mama Lin’s reaction to the girl’s Twitter handle…

Pre-game. 12/7

Melo + Kobe.

Didn’t seem to affect Wes Matthews trade, despite Achilles rupture.

Blah blah…, I find it entertaining that Cliff only compliments Lin’s defense.

ed davis leads all non starters in nba with 6 double doubles this season.

Lin played CONSERVATIVELY and EFFICIENTLY.

He’s simply overconcentrating at the line.

Lin has historically SCHOOLED Reggie Jackson.

Walker coming out early meant that Lin could handcuff Jackson in the 1st quarter.

No Jackson, no Drummond.

He is a good bb player but the lakers didnt appreciate him

they sure do but want him on a cheap money…so Ed signed with other team.

yup, he didn’t learn from Swaggy’s misfortune

i didnt watch the first quarter, but tonight lin mostly guarded blake, and walker was guarding reggie.

Top 7 teams in the Eastern Conference are all within 1 game of each other. Good opportunity to move up in standings if they can beat Miami Wednesday.

russell will be going to that byron place that is ‘not the doghouse’

He will be BSed.

Serious, even the rookies don’t give a **** anymore. LMAO @ Lakers.

Au contraire, I think he learned too much from it, so now is forcing Lakers’ hand.

Let us wait.Really hate the lakers franchise for sabotaging players future

They will not DNP him next game but don’t think he & Randle are Lakers future. They both are really not good. I watched some of their games… Tonight’s their best game I saw & from the bench maybe it’s right thing for them.

BS already cost Randle one year by literally causing him injury with the absurd running drills.

yeah, maybe they wanted to see how many DNPs BScott can hand out?

Revolution!

Note: Tonight’s game Lin scored double-digit, 13pts, for the first time since four games ago.

roid raging?
Lol

Excellent reminder.

I do too but will Cliff Lin have more minutes like tonight?

Not in the minutes he’s had, that’s not possible.

With free throws.

Anybody got a video of “Frank is Awesome” handshake?

Jerry Buss would rollover his grave just to disbelieve his kids are being bullied by his ex-players.

JLin. A great defender and very good not turning the ball over. Haters don’t have anything to say now. Offense flows very well with him at PG. My god conditions are ripe for some magic. Just need to deal with FO politics.

https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/674069002591727616

No, I have not changed my mind at all.

I thought Lin was APPROPRIATELY used today.

Just because I think Clifford would be better off playing Walker less doesn’t mean that I disapprove of his usage of Lin.

https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/674070458271068163

Kobe lives in an entirely different reality. The Kobe distortion field:

Defense probably giving him that because they know he’ll miss it and lose the game.

Baxter HolmesVerified account‏@BaxterHolmes
Kobe on why he is still shooting so many shots this season: “You have to just take what the defense gives you.”

https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/674074076143607809

Agreed.

The Hornets have UNDERACHIEVED,
largely because their starters have played terribly.

LMAO

Cha commentator: bench outplayed starters most of the time during practice.

Not unlike the Rox during Lin’s first year with them. KKKlutchfans praised McHale for taking young Rox into playoffs (8th seed) when in fact Rox would’ve gotten to 5th EASILY had they not faltered in the last 12 games, and 3rd or better had they played Harden and Lin like GSW is doing now with Splash Bros.

charlotte commentators said that tonight?
i was listening to pistons feed.

what does ‘most of the time’ mean? is that just recently? or pretty much all the time?

I think he said in practice, bench outplays the starters. He was talking about Tyler being ready to play even though he doesn’t play much.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tag-heuer-android-wear-smartwatch-111518682.html

ok. i take it to mean recently.

in any case, cliff has been defensive in interviews when asked about starters in comparison to bench. its even more interesting, that comment, now that we know the bench also beats the starters in practice.

Well the bench has also been bailing out the starters in games too

thats what i mean. a reporter asked cliff about that before, and cliff just deflected the comment/question by saying the starters are playing fine. haha

this new fact is also interesting because lin was moved to play with the starting unit in a recent practice. maybe thats bc the bench kept outplaying the starters, so cliff re-balanced the teams. and to see different lineups with lin.

I guess Cliff is taking a page from McHale to avoid a direct comparison between Lin and a stud, we will see.

these ppl talking about the situation as if it’s news. SMH. thats how it was last year too.

“Kristaps Porzingis is “the real deal” and owns the talent that Jeremy Lin didn’t”. I think ny daily news is trying very hard to convince people Knicks #12 is better than Hornets #5.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/cuban-knicks-porzinigis-s-not-lin-article-1.2458189

face reality kid.. you have to pay your dues.

well, it’s almost a rephrase of cuban.

https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/674081857084911616

But Lin could win the games for NYK not this kid. We will see what happen two teams in the end of season. Cuban just not really high on Lin before & even now. He’s also mad at Lin for not take the cheap deal to play for Mav that’s why Harris had that Linsnaity Heat type against Lin when two teams met in Dallas. smh! I really hate this fat guy.

He can put up big number for sure w his skill & chance but just like lots of players in this league they just can’t matchup well even w good stats.

Ha ha. So true

Ya! Like vs King. Kemba could have big number but he couldn’t stop the opponent to score either. But Lin could that’s why he won that game. Matchup. I think what Cliff said about this sure it’s from MJ. LOL!

Maybe Lin could help them change.

They can but they still want to loss so….

Lin is really good in D now.

https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/674034424015659009

Finally the reporters are turning their backs on Scott

Where did ya go?

Let make it a payback for Heat.

I agree, these teams are all winnable especially if play at home..

Rockets are just another game to me. Lakers are so pathetic that it hardly matters.

Heat always play JLin tough.

Hope Lin will dissipate the Heat on Wed

they have different talent though..

Rook needs to earn his minutes.

Only possible if they all the sudden try to win…. If the FO is tanking, it’ll be h*** for Lin…

i think it is 24mins?

I think every GM knows bc they sure got the report from every game.

they would say they never seen it.

Lin mostly guarded Blake, not Jackson. Did Nathan watch the game?

With Kobe, 10 Lins wouldn’t make a difference.

Those are good teams you are underestimating them
Heat Grizlies Celtics Raptors Wizards Rockets arent bad at all
only guatanteed wins are against Magic and the Lakers
they’d be lucky to go 5-5

He said in 12 min.

It is whether that difference is significant or not

Too cheap to be worth any click.

Faker fans were yapping last year about how they missed Blake and Blake > Lin.
Tonight Lin showed who was better.

Welcome back. Where have you been?

He looks controlled. Probably because he has accepted his role for what it is and is familiar with his teammates tendencies.

thanks for the heads up

Lin wasn’t on Reggie for 12 minutes. Maybe 3 or 4.

No way. He will not.

Suffice to say no one there has any ego (or dignity) left…perfect setup for Linsanity 2.0.

The kid can play. He does his job well. Give him a bit more NBA experience he’ll make it to the All star in a few years. I want him and Towns to play together with Jeremy one day.

only hope is if Hairston is demoted to bench. KW is considered new franchise player by MJ 🙁

no doubt he can play. but he has god-given ability and physical attributes.

MJ has fairly low standard for franchise player.

which Lin doesnt… thats what Cuban said….

Kemba is playing well & his $12M salary makes him a starter

Kemba/Lin backcourt would be possible but with JLin anchoring Bench Force 1, it’s better if JLin doesn’t play too much time with Kemba.

Rookie spoke up
Not sure if thats a good thing
Lakers arent as invested in him as they are in Clarkson

Exactly. Cuban is always too emotion to judge things… Like that big contract to CP bc he hates Rox & Morey… smh! No need to spread his comment anymore.

Yes, he is just as good as Dolan in recognizing talents, but he is luckier.

I don’t think the offense looked better with Lin at PG tonight. With Kemba at PG, he gives it to Batum and the first unit had good ball movement mainly because Batum made most of the good plays. Kemba moves around a lot and cuts towards the basket where Batum finds him. Batum found Zeller and everyone else. With Lin there wasn’t much of a difference, Batum did most of the facilitating.

In the 2nd half, they were sloppy, Kemba, Batum, all of them. Then they settled down and got it together. When Lin came in without Batum he looked kind of skittish and probably was the roughest part of his very good game. He did make a nice drive and dish to Hawes but he turned it over driving to the basket and almost turned it over trying to thread the needle when a ball got kicked. There were some rough spots at times. It settled down, Lin and Lamb and all just started making better passes and the 2nd unit looked more unified. But I don’t think it looked any more unified than when the first unit kicked in. Both units benefitted from the play of Batum. While Batum had a few TOs as usual, he made some really good plays as well.

I think sometimes the offense looks better in the 2nd unit, sometimes not. Same with the first unit. When both units are sharing the ball, both look good. And a lot of the time, it’s Batum helping both units look good.

This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

There’s a book called Competitve Fire which suggests that great athletes are ultra competitive because of some deep rooted psychological problems with insecurities and the intense need for attention, adoration and love. I never liked the book because it paints a very negative slant on why great athletes get their personal drive to be the best. However, this book definately describes Kobe to a tee.

Kobe’s delusion has driven him to seek as much external love and adoration as possible to fill an emptyness that juts can’t be filled. It’s an bottomless pit of Black Mamba darkness. This urge is similar to a drug dependency. The book brings up how some athletes turn to real drug dependency after they retire to get the high they used to get from fans and endophyen highs. Kobe is in full danger of falling into this type of dangerous habit once he loses everything he so desperately held on to for so long now despite embarrassing himself and destroying the Lakers at the same time.

Exactly, but Donnie works for Cuban. So Donnie probably had to convince Cuban and Cuban ok’d it since he’s the owner.

Hope the hornet well prepared for the upcoming games

I saw pj play better with Lin at point this game. At least every player gets to touch the ball at every other possession.

my prediction:
1) Cavs
2) Heat
3) Bulls
4) Pacers
5) Hornets
6) Wizards (will bounce back)
7) Raptors
8) Celtics

Those teams are NOTHING to worry about. The Hornets main concern is…drumroll…Clifford.

The not-so-old Chinese adage: Fear not God-like opponents, only the pig-like (dumba**) allies.

The least chemistry of any two players on the court may be between Lin and Kemba unfortunately. Batum now has great chemistry with Cody, very good with Kemba, good and getting better with Lin. Batum is by far facilitating the best on the team (didn’t say he’s the best facilitator, but he’s facilitating the best) and helps both Kemba and Lin. Yes, he has TOs, but he makes some seriously good plays. He occasionally has a nightmare game. But so apparently so does Drummund and Jackson.

BTW, Cuban also trash Kidd after he didn’t stay w Mav…. smh! No need to care what he said too much…

It’s a great answer to deflect a celeb-chaser with an unappealing handle.

Feel the same way. I don’t think Lin wants to be starting SG bc w Kemba he can’t do too much but stand in corner & waiting for ball to come.

PR response no not offend the fan.

I think if Hornets from now on really going to play team ball, they will be on top 3 in the Eastern C.

i have a feeling Lin will stay in Charlotte for many years.

It’s interesting you say that because either it was this game or another one I noticed very specifically Kemba motioned to Lin to get OUT of the corner. He then passed it to Lin who passed it to someone else who passed it to someone else for an easy basket. He motioned to Lin to start an offensive sequence and motioned Lin go to near the foul line.

they wont clifford too stubborn

Please don’t speak it yet…I’m leery about Hornets. Let’s see how the season turns out… I’m praying a miracle will happen somehow for Lin to show case his skills especially playoff time. Lin is too good to be a ‘backup’ PG.

what

But after big lose to GSW, they did change more team ball so maybe MJ agreed?

well, if lin was at the 2 instead of batum, it won’t be too bad because batum get to shoot a lot more. so kemba will end up playing iwth lin due to set plays.
right now, lin is not a 2 or a 3 or a 1 if kw, batum and lin are in there together. … lin is the one to stand in the corner if that is the case.

you are so right…a major injury to Kemba would propel this team to a top 3 seed

Magic is not an easy team to play. They have beaten many good teams; winning five out of the last six games. The East is better than the West this year; specially when the East teams meet the West.

You see how Lin’s hair can destruct the opponents

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Re: Game 22: Detroit Pistons (12-9) @ Charlotte Hornets (11-8) – 7:00 PM ET

Post#145 » by Arp590 » Today 12:58 am

I’m just impressed Jeremy Lin’s hair stays up like that the whole game.”

yep.

Honestly, that’s a right call by BS. Lou Williams is better at this point. Russell = rookie has lots to learn. I don’t give a damn about Lakers. whatevers.

Lin has been used more if he cuts. I noticed that Kemba moves around a lot more than Lin. If you have Kemba and Lin moving around it can lead to a disorganized offense. Kemba moves, Batum moves, Lin has to more or less be an outlet. I would just like for them to rotate that and have Lin cut some more. But it isn’t always the case Lin stands in a corner. Batum has been looking for Lin more to cut to the basket and sometimes it is Kemba on the perimeter. Kemba/Batum/Lin chemistry is a work in progress.

Yes. Until Lin will be in the closing lineup with both of them. So they might as well get practice. Lin will close based on matchups says Cliff. I think he will much more because Lamb doesn’t have the defense and big-game clutch playmaking abilities Lin has.

Let’s not wish injury to any players.

Hornets team wins will give chances for JLin to shine in playoff where it matters the most

Oh uh, Heat game is tomorrow, back-to-back for both teams. Heat just lost so they’ll be motivated. Cliff better gives Lin more minutes like tonight.

Tomorrow is Wednesday.

No, it’s 12/9 Wed. not B2B

NBA is unique or any sports
You actually have to be born with the talent
Hard work alone isnt enough
and some employers only want the best
people who were born to be smart

Batum brilliantly set up a nice assist to a wide-open 3 by JLin by drawing 2 defenders inside.

JLin drained it from a zipcode outside downtown #CurryRange

https://twitter.com/jlinforum/status/674062400988016640

BS has lots of room under the bus early in the season.

all these teams Charlotte can beat if coached right. +10 wins right there.

Lakers News: D’Angelo Russell Accuses Kobe Bryant Of Ball Hogging
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-news-dangelo-russell-accuses-kobe-bryant-ball-hogging-2347524.html

And that’s why he got benched. Guess who made that call and who carried it out?

Marvin likes Lin’s shot. This is after that running floater shot he made before being taken out in the 4th.

they ran a hammer set by lin, for lamb.
this is the first time ive seen lin do that this year.

There’s a difference between saying Cliff can’t go anywhere doing what he’s doing than saying you’d like to see Lin do more. I would too. But Cliff is winning and that’s what he’s paid to do. I do think Lin puts less emphasis on points and stats than fans do. He seems to enjoy getting assists more.

On the court, that’s certainly true. And I see Marvin and Lin always talking to each other on the bench and on the court.

Ya! Mav is real Kemba only talk.

林書豪Jeremy Lin’s Offense & Defense Highlights 2015-12-8 Hornets VS Pistons

So maybe that play Lin did for his last shot tonight was something that is supposed to happen more. Lin got the ball from Frank who was double teamed under the rim and didn’t hesitate to just go into his drive. That’s what I like from Lin. No shot fake, not jab steps, just go. And for some reason, he hits that whatever it is, kind of a running hook floater acrobatic shot a lot. It’s like he’s not thinking, he just puts it up and he hits it. But that play did start off with Lin behind the arc. He wasn’t quite in the corner, but he was on the side driving into the basket.

Their fanbase might not allow it. Byron was trending on twitter and there are angry Lakers fans out there.

yes, Lamb can’t impact defensively, create for others or draw fouls
All are important to finish games & gain momentum

liked how the the video had a White guy sporting the JLin jersey toward the end of the video, helping block the stereotype that only Asian people are JLin fans.

well I dont see them going further than first round Kemba-Batum-Lamb wont be hot every game
Yah Lin doesnt look to pad his stats hes a team player he does not try to take over or anything
Thats why cuban said he doesnt have what it takes

The secret is the ball was moving beautifully.

There were 4 passes with 4 players touching the ball in that possession alone.
Bench Force 1 has developed more chemistry and become more dangerous now.

It did take time for new players to gel but great to see Lamb-Frank-Hawes-Lin connection there

JLin was simply reacting to an opening and finding a way to finish the offensive flow to invent a new type of “Floating Butterfly, Hairy Dragon” shot =)

Simpy Beautiful!

If not this year then when Hornets host ASG if Batum stays he will.

Yah they might select him this year cuz france just got a terrorist attack
they might do it to show support for france

and a reason to play french anthem again

Marvin is always proud of Lin when he scores. I think they have good chemistry.

Like little Jimmy gives a cr*p about the fans.

Oh! Maybe….

https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/674058681571348480

I noticed hawes passing to lin quite a bit tonight. Lin kept feeding him for threes and easy buckets and he would pass to lin to start fast breaks n stuff. Nice to see that finally.

For those who wonder why Kemba came back into the game late in fourth quarter, here’s one theory: FACE of the franchise.

Catch my drift?

kemba coming back made sense if you were paying attention to the rotations.

I guess if not for big won today. Lin will back around 3 to 2 1/2 min for close game. It’s like schedule from Cliff.

its not a blowout until drummond and reggie are out of the game. at that pt, they were put INTO the game. so obviously van gundy didnt think it was a blowout.

20 pt lead (95-75) with 7:11 left in 4Q is NOT a blowout?

When Drummond and Reggie left with 3:55 left, the lead was 22 pts (101-79), what’s the difference?

Hornets didn’t need to bring in sick starter to extend 20 pt lead by 2 more.

Time remaining and personnel.

at the 7:10 mark in the 4th quarter, van gundy put in a dual-PG lineup with both blake and reggie, so cliff matched it with a dual-PG lineup of lin and kemba. thats why cliff put in kemba.

this is clear, because when reggie came out of the game, so did kemba.

check for yourself by looking at the rotations:
http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151207&game=DETCHA

van gundy was still trying to win the game, and cliff wanted to ensure the win. the lead was large, but 7 minutes left is still a long time.. when van gundy gave up, so did cliff.

you are right that the bench was doing fine, but you are wrong if you are using this 4Q kemba substitution for your ‘face of the franchise’ theory.
that theory might still be true, but the evidence for it is certainly not in the example you pointed out.

Point conceded, as Cliff did take Kemba back out after Stan raised the white flag.

ya but Walker’s PER of 20.2 is really bad for a guy that plays 34mpg and has a high usage rate. With Lin on the floor, Hornets are way more effective. Every advanced stat will confirm that.

he is such an inefficient shooter too. if you look at his career stats. the only thing walker does OK is defense and hustle. he is a hardworking player but lacks real skills.

about 20 games into the season, lin finally gets to do a “hammer” play with his crew. this spurs-inspired set is fun and it truly utilizes lin’s driving ability, decision-making, and passing skills.

you can see it at the 4min mark in the highlight vid. (9:48 on the clock in the 2nd quarter)

lin gets a double ball screen on the right wing, and drives towards the basket. if the defensive big is too slow to rotate, then lin gets a layup. if the defensive big does rotate, then lin passes to lamb in the opposite corner for a three. lamb is freed up by a flare screen set by marvin.
(in this instance, lin doesnt pass accurately into lamb’s shooting pocket, and the flare screen timing isn’t totally right, so lamb doesnt get an open look, but marvin gets open as a result. nevertheless, lamb is the intended 2nd option in this play, and lin is the 1st option.)

lin will excel with sets like this. it puts him in the tony parker role.

this is also nice to see because byron was too stu pid to coach, and mchale could not even draw up a play. not to mention the fact that under mchales offense, lin wasnt the main playmaker like this, and harden was unwilling to play off the ball either (like lamb in the corner)

sets like this utilize lin’s skills, and give him an opportunity to score himself. this is a positive aspect of playing for charlotte this year.

Kemba and Batum are the closest things Charlotte has to stars. One nice thing about the Hornets is there is no superstar, but a team likes a marquis star or 2 to show off. They are the on the court stars. The marketing star, after owner Jordan, may well be Jeremy Lin. That could be why there is so much PR around Lin. The hair is another fun thing going on with him. If and when Lin goes on a run he could be an on the court feature, but not called a star. He in some way is being marketed with Lamb as part of the strong performing Charlotte bench. But Kemba and Batum are the stars, and MKG I guess will be the defensive star, the Tony Allen, of the Hornets when he comes back. Lin the off-the-bench personality, doesn’t even have to be the 6th man, gets high visibility.

Just checked box score. Lin made 10 shot attempts this game. he’s been increasing his shot attempts but it’s not enough he needs to shoot at least 13 FGAs. Especially when Walker and Batum starts icing him out and his minutes are limited. He had more minutes than Walker which is a first in a while! This time Batum got the special treatment with 30+ minutes. When will it be Lin’s turn have 30+ minutes?

Batum genuinely comes close, Kemba’s just manufactured pseudo-/quasi-star.

2 nice JLin GIFs (refresh for pics)

http://i.imgur.com/1q42Gbe.gif

http://i.imgur.com/3LGvxd3.gif

I’m curious to see what MJ will do to keep JLin if he wants to be a starter in a team.

MJ certainly knows what JLin brings to the table to bring energy and teamball into this 12W-8L record
He can also appreciate the Asian marketing aspect as he wants to penetrate Chinese billion dollar market.
I can’t see him easily let JLin walk away next season.

But JLin needs to stick to his All-Star and starter goal; otherwise they’ll be glad to continue offering the anonymous energizer off the bench

#TheThickeningPlot

Think Lin’s been watching Kuroko’s Basketball too much. Cause that form and shot looked liked Kuroko Phantom Shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lk3j6CYJ2A

The latest BDotAdot5 impersonation of the Clippers.
JJ Redick’s one is the funniest =)

https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/674127838451208193

lol Cody gets punched in the face I thought I saw that in the game.

smooth plays

no foul on defense? ok

Seem like JLin’s back is still bothering him.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12314564_10153732233678350_1251909661497868649_o.jpg

Lin had the game under control. See the last run Q1 in the highlights – so cool, used clock, scored like it was against me and you. He is a0k, that boy of ours.

Wonder if JLin guided R. Jackson. His stat was he played 24:05 and only had 4 points 2-9 0-4 3PM-A 1 ast 1rbd 3 fouls 3 turnovers.

are you sure? At 7:10, they put in Reggie and take out Blake, so it is not dual PG line up. Clifford put in Kemba and take out Lin. It is not a dual PG line up either, not sure what you are talking about.

JLin pregame fun with Williams.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12342424_1133516450001413_2908482713110004236_n.jpg?oh=8b28c198fc38035230653e72bf6b71ac&oe=56DFFEED

Looking at popcorn machine, they did not have much overlap on the court.

http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151207&game=DETCHA

“Cliffraud” is a site rules no-no. I kind of agree with the rest of it. Seems like Kemba’s confidence is eroding under the pressure of Lin’s competence.

LOL. I thought BA upgraded to a real indoor gym, now he has regressed to a parking lot??

Since Lin wouldn’t be a start unless injury to Hairston or Kemba, Hornets second unit bigs are a decent fit with Lin (Kaminsky, Hawes, Zeller). Wish they had better rim protector and not Brian Roberts though.

Very good point. I change my mind. I think that’s the biggest factor right now. Not to mention Lin’s shooting always heats up over the course of a season anyway with more reps, rhythm and team chemistry.

My guess is that Clifford was signaling to Lin what to do on defense on the next possession, not referring to Lin taking the shot.

Because if Clifford was not happy about Lin taking the shot, he would have shown some facial expressions during the shot attempt. But Clifford did not make any gestures until after the shot went in.

The only common link between all three 2-man combos is Lin. Lin + competent player = elite.

Kemba doesn’t even crack the Top 10! I’m actually pretty shocked. I figured he’d be in at least one of the combos.

Three interesting Lin articles (latest):

All-Round Jeremy Lin Steers Hornets Past Pistons
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/round-jeremy-lin-steers-hornets-past-pistons-2347470.html

Jeremy Lin Twitter Interview: ‘Like to Play Videogames Until Sunrise’
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/jeremy-lin-twitter-interview-like-play-videogames-sunrise-2347479.html

Mark Cuban Takes Cheap Shot At Jeremy Lin
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/mark-cuban-takes-cheap-shot-jeremy-lin-2347505.html

Kindly like and share. #jLin7

Wow, Kemba!!! Sounds familiar? The famous cornerstone vs role player from Harden. I have been saying Kemba is faking being humble.

Very late to the victory party but it was thoroughly nice seeing Jeremy’s acrobatic shot and pass again.Whoever said that during practices, the bench unit lead by Jeremy probably destroys the starters, where the h*** was that announcer been all his/her life?!!? Kidding aside, it’s nothing new already. It’s a gospel.

Cliff told Lin not to help on Drummond cuz Blake just a three play prior to Lin making the shot

I don’t know, Batum has been passing more to Lin than Kemba has.

Kemba had the same wrap on… I think this is just to keep them warm and ready to go .. prevent injuries.

They ran Hammer b4…just saying I mean with Lin

Lol, I had a friend who is almost a grand master in chess that cramped up his leg so bad that he was limping for a day or two. He was so intense during a game that he forgot to move his leg and it locked up on him. Lol

It’s a higher probably win but not a blowout. I think Lin has brought team back from the brink like this against wizards.(?).

All things considered, It was a schedule lost for them so it was near garbage time,

I think Batum is neutral to everyone.

Marvin seems like a veteran who is comfortable with himself and his game. There is no anxiety with other succeeding so he is happy for all his teammates, including Lin. I’ve liked Marvin’s composure and game since the start of the season. He kind of reminds me in this way to Boozer last year.

first time i saw Marvin W play, i was not impressed as he’s just an average to below average player then, but after several games pre-season and regular, i saw maybe what Cliff has been seeing with this player, a solid contributor and a team player, and now i’m impressed on how he is making a chemistry with Jlin and co. hope this last for i see in him the Morris and patterson of Hornet, the Jeffries and Novak and the couch friend (LOL) of NYK. i hope they can forge a solid play together and with the team!

He is having too much on the court already…:P

Exactly

Exactly.

Feel the same way. Lin sure do give him lots of pressure & he just took more shots w Lin on court w him. Competition.

Lin wasn’t mentioned because the reporter specifically asked about those guys and for some reason left off Lin. He asked the same question of Marvin Williams and included Lin.

I think the opposite. I think he now has help and doesn’t have to always be the man and he’s striving off of the competition from Lin. He’s not really threatened, Lin isn’t getting more playing time or showing any real trend towards being considered a starter. He has that position solidly. He now can have confidence to implement what he worked on without having to overwork on the court. Yet, in my opinion, he still has those tendencies out of habit.

Kemba and Nic start the offense, score, and in the full interview that I listened to, Kemba said he no longer has to try to have the ball all the time and take the shots. It helps to have others. The reporter completely seem to forget about Lin when asking about the new additions and Kemba this time didn’t add Lin. The reporter asked the same questions to Marvin Williams but included Lin and Marvin answered that all of the same guys have great skills they offer, but he didn’t specifically focus on Lin just mentioned him with others. And we know Marvin seems to be extra pumped with what Lin does on the court.

I wouldn’t read much into this other than yes, Kemba and Nic are the two constants on the floor and first options and that we already know. That quote is out of context and shouldn’t be considered a Lin omission by Kemba when it is not.

RJ scored 2/9 (4 pts) with KW, not Jeremy Lin!

They know but they have to protect their pets!

I believe it was Hornets announcer, Dell Curry, Stephen Curry’s dad. At least I give him credit to bring that up. Others don’t dare to.

Pls do read the whole q&A!!!…Cuban was complementary of Lin….

Del Curry said on the telecast the bench wins more times than not against the starters in practice. I wouldn’t characterise this as “destroys”.

That what fans do…get mad?! ain it?! lol

yes, this year he has been shooting & scoring well.
Could be Lin’s presence pushing him. Plus Batum & Lin’s presence giving more space for him to operate

When he goes ISOs too much, Hornets waste a lot of possessions

good saver lol

Why Mavs fans need to mad at Lin?

Really, he said that as an in a general thing. He said, that’s the way it usually is in the NBA meaning that on most teams, benches tend to outplay the starters in practice.

was there more to the q&a than what was written in the article?

When asked if Porzingis would be another “flash in the pan” like Lin,
Cuban said, “Jeremy Lin went from undrafted to we had him on our Summer
League team to getting past around. Jeremy Lin worked his way through.
He wasn’t just a flash in the pan. Porzingis is the real deal. He’s got some s**t to him and that’s the real difference.”

really nice to see Lin actually running pick and rolls the last two games, and run in the way that I think that only he can do on this team. (e.g., the one with hansborough to end the 1st half of the Bulls game… and others.)

then again, I normally only watch highlights so I don’t get a chance to see kemba running pick and rolls; maybe he does. anyway, i hope the coaches see that Lin does this well and runs more of them. i think that kemba and batum do run a potent offense, but i think it should be good to intersperse with lin’s pick and roll, for a more potent overall offense.

A little off topic, but this is the best half time interview I’ve ever seen – if you haven’t seen it before, I’m sure you will get a kick out of it (and even if you have). Greg Popovich is quite a guy!

You haven’t seen Greg Popovich before?

Yeah, funny how some latched on to that comment as if it was some specific praise of Lin as opposed to general praise of all NBA players.

Lin did not get a formal offer.

But Dallas DID strongly consider it before deciding to not offer a contract to Lin.

Dallas had its eye on “All Star” Deron Williams, as Mark Cuban is obsessed with “All Star point guards” whether they can play or not.

This sequence of events was officially reported in NBA.com and hoopshype.

Getting consistent role and minutes this season helps MW’s consistency and confidence which translates into happier and productive MW on and off court w/teammates. And of course, Lin always provides and feeds off positive energy w/any teammates, especially those who are willing to get along and play team ball w/him. MW is one of them.

It’s incredible that the chance of GSW to beat the Bulls 20-year old record of 72-10 is 54%
If they did, it will also impact positively players who can play team-ball, hit 3s and play defense.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/674277755236786178

Good to see Craig. Most of the NBA players/coaches have a lot of respect for him.

Check out @HornetSportSpot’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/HornetSportSpot/status/674273763488174080?s=09

So is it fair for us to say Kemba doesn’t pass the ball? He’s the assist leader. He’s getting them some way. The assists rates are very close. And maybe why one guy isn’t leading by more, they are shared in the team. That’s actually good.

Wonder what it would be if you only count time Lin is the PG without Walker and Roberts on the floor. 4.6 assists per 36 min is diluted by time he’s standing in the corner watching Walker play PG and Walker and Batum have the ball.

As per touch and pg duties, Lin has the highest assists

He had 21.5 before being pushed to the corner and never sees the ball again from Kemba “Teamball” Walker.

Whats important is that he shows his worth to teams that have overpaid PGs like reggie jackson

So, we’re saying everyone wants to be traded and pumped up their stats?

That’s positive not negative.

No….so that Lin will not even think about being traded…letting him feel at home and that he is being utilized the right way. But after the trade deadline things might change again back to few games back. Just a thought.

Roberts is barely on the floor. Lin isn’t PG with Walker on the floor. Lin doesn’t get as many assists while Batum is on the floor because Batum also gets a lot of assists. As does Hawes actually.

I like the Hornets Fans…they do like Lin.

Yes but few times Roberts playing PG and Lin at SG probably still enough to reduce Lin’s AST/36 min stats. Whereas Walker is always PG. He should have the highest AST. 5.0 is pretty poor when you’re the full time PG.

Here I am, thinking they want to win, lol. Interesting theory tho. Why didn’t they sit Kemba last night?

It’s all of the factors, Roberts being the least of them. It’s Batum, Kemba and other guys assisting like Hawes that brings down the assists of all of the guys. One guy isn’t looked at to get the assists, or 2 guys, they are spread around.

If you look at Lin’s 2nd quarter AST / 36 min when he’s usually the primary PG with the bench his AST / 36 min is 6.5. Rest of the time Lin mostly SG next to Walker at PG.

1st Qtr: 5.8
2nd Qtr: 6.5
3rd Qtr: 2.3
4th Qtr: 3.4

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202391/stats/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Per36&Period=2

No…heart. Lin was helping down low with drummond prior to that play. Cliff just telling Lin no more help and he nodded. You watch to watch the play before that. Blake made a three because Lin was helping

Haters always seem to be louder than the people like him.

I re-watched. Why didn’t Cliff signaled then? Why was it only after Lin made the jump shot? Either case, I’ll be observing the side line more if the video is available.

I don’t care about the fans, I care where he has good chance to shine. Can’t really see it in Charlotte.

Yeah. I watch the game last night. I have league pass, I’ll watch it again. Next play coming back he didn’t help anymore.

Why is everything Lin related? Maybe Kemba just wants to play every game he can. You don’t think Lin played with a not so great andle because he wants to play every game he can this season. Everything other players and coaches do isn’t because of Lin.

And Kemba is 6 foot 1. You say he’s short like he’s 5 foot 9 Isiah Thomas. Chris Paul is shorter than Kemba and he’s a star in the NBA at the same position.

Wow, What a great accomplishment for Kemba to lead the assists per 36 minutes!!! Kemba the anointed PG vs Lin the mostly 3 point corner SG on the team. SMH

Lin answered Steve Blake with that jump shot right before he left Steve Blake wide open 3s because he was helping to guard Drummond. Very possible Cliff signaled not to help anymore.

Exactly. Lin’s stats are diluted because he’s playing SG and not getting the ball. If you look at when he’s the PG his assists would be better than Walker who’s always the PG.

Ya! I agree NY likes Lin.

Lin is a pushing around player, not just from team to team but also from role to role. So sad.

However, Cliff has been very micromanaging Lin, opposite with what he said he would do and comparing to unleashed Batum and Kemba.

Well done Cliff

He wants Lin not to get the foul and prefer Drummund gets a 2 and Lin not give up a 3 to a very good shooting Blake. It’s normal player/coach interaction and it makes perfect sense. I think Cliff was pleased with Lin’s overall play last night.

At around 0:54 Batum starts dribbling with the ball, Lin points to Batum like he’s supposed to pass to Hairston but Batum ignores him and shoots and misses a 3. Looks like Lin kind of shook his head after that like Batum is going off script.

Hopefully Lin will emerge strong at some point in this season and solidify a big part of Charlotte. That is in case he wants to stay in Charlotte and is tired of going from team to team, system to system, city to city.

Yep. But Jeremy must stop to overhelp and follow the ball.

Feel the same way. Right now they seem to move more toward Lin’s team ball now. Don’t think he will be traded. Hornets tried to figure it out to keep Lin & hope he will stay but I don’t think he will… just hope they can let him plays his game more & more from now on.

It’s not that short for a PG. PGs are 6 feet to 6’4″ with a few taller. Many are around 6’1″ or 6’2″.

It’s all too easy to jump to conclusions and start making up stories. Some of the Hornets fans still express frustration with what they still seem to see as Kemba’s habitual iso-style play, plus I must still have a little lingering ptsd from past teams. Generally I try to avoid negative scenarios, but looks like I might still be lingering in the shadows a bit much. Thanks for talking me back toward some sunshine 🙂

To me, right now, only 2 teams can give Jeremy a starting role:

Sixers, cause Hinkie knows stats;
Clippers, if Paul asks a trade in offseason cause Ballmer was a Harvard alumni.

Exactly. MDA has his limitations. Some have gone beyond him. And, as you said, having other playmakers is the way to go. And that’s what Clifford is doing. I think he is kind of a point forward even though he occupies the 2 position in the starting lineup.

If height were the only thing, there would be a lot more NBA players, lol.

And me being Asian will not help

Not at all. But Yao, Lin are pioneers. We have a long way to go but it is never easy. Please don’t lose faith.

You need to bring up all games up to last night, His min was ranged from 13-31, his role from PG one moment to sit in the corner the next. He’s the 2nd unit PG only when all Batum, Kemba and even Robert are not on the floor.

Kemba was sick yesterday, otherwise he wouldn’t be used that much.

That’s the truth unfortunately

I think Spurs rested some of their key players too lol

Even with the inconsistency of the min & role (which Clifford attributed to matchup but I think it’s about shooting 9-10 FGAs, defense, rebounding over Lamb), Lin still helped Hornets win.

Does Clifford see that JLin helps them win? I think he does. But he’s treading lightly to keep everyone happy to help them win.

Lin is very tradeable & will help lots of teams but I just can’t see anyone with equal values to help Hornets.
If Kemba is sick, JLin can step in smoothly. JLin is their insurance plan and empowers the bench for now.
And JLin knows that. So it’s pretty good so far.

I expect by end of season, if JLin continues to perform and help them win, Hornets would have to offer a bigger role to entice him to stay. JLin has to drive a hard bargain.

Linsanity 9-1
Porzingis look at the standings

yes, they’re thinking Porzingis is a consolation prize.
But Linsanity winning record is much better than Knicks 10-12 record (#12 in East)

If Knicks doesn’t make the playoff, Linsanity still had more impact than Porzingis.

Clifford had to say following practice Tuesday, Dec. 8. He praised Lin can play 2 & 1 and both effectively.

http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/2015/12/08/1449603407476-151208PracticeCoach.mov-160200

What’s your opinion if the lineup with Lin replacing Jose Calderon?

He didn’t look sick to me last night. LOL!

Just got this from the other side, very good read:

http://www.facebook.com/jeremylin7/posts/1709493672618567

Wade? Why not Dragic?

Wade runs offense lots more.

He can guard Dragic or Wade. He frustrated Wade last time. It has been proven that Lin likes challenge and can overcome if and when he gets Coaching/mgmt support.

I doubt it too, just curious.

Ya! Dragic seemed to be doing much better next to Wade now. Just from check box score.

On the first game Hornets vs Heat, he said the same about Lin….Haha!

Anything else he said? Can’t put audio up at work at this moment.

At least not in the doghouse.

great share!

To the best of my audible ability, here’s a transcription of Cliff’s mentions of Lin after today’s practice 8 Dec 2015. Starting at mark 2:15, Cliff said: “…when you have guys to me that can play smart, for instance like Jeremy Lin, he can play the two; he can play the one, both effectively. And not only helps you in terms of you know where stretches when guys get hurt or into foul trouble, but…uhm you know you’re able to adjust the match ups during a game…”

Thanks, first time I heard Cliff talk. He sounds bball smart, we all might take stock of how we might be second guessing him vs McHale and Scott. This guy is a step or 2 above them in honest bball convo, and that may indicate he’s a wiser coach than we give him cred for …

For example, grooming players up with humility, etc. The pace of contracts doesn’t allow him to do that in steps (JLamb), and if he goes by his experienced intelligence, it’ll be ok in the long run.

yep.

It is.

Indeed. Something happened…. Well, as long as they can let Lin plays his game … it’s not matter what it’s…LOL!

Not getting my hope up to be disappointed again….it’s game by game for me.

Any less would only hurt their chance.

Very true. Me too.

100% agree.

Wow, BS has declared war with Mitch? These two are his top picks.

https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/674323557590114304

How do you know that?

He seemed to lack energy in the first quarter to me.

that would the obvious answer to at least part of the equation: the lakers were coachless when randle was picked. and on would assume (for the other part) that the then current coach (bs) would at least have input into the pick.

the lakers spent a long vetting process (some may remember) before choosing scott, another reason for me to believe that got exactly who/what they wanted:

someone to baby sit kobe and lose to tank to draft picks.

whether scott was in on the deal or not was an open question but his increasingly bizarre statements this season seem to indicate he was not.

(or else he’s going for a clinical insanity defense)

oh yeah of much faith.

I’m still hoping Lin can go back to New York next year….I’m hoping he will only be in Charlotte for 1 year and leave because MKG will be back and he’s a 30 minutes player..That would mean less time for Lin at SG and we know Kemba plays 35minutes per game at PG…So there won’t be any minutes for Lin next year in Charlotte.

Knicks needs a PG badly and as you said, he’d be perfect replacement for Calderon who is 34year old.

Cliff is very basketball smart in concept and good with people, unlike Byron who insults his players for instance. Beyond that, his rotations don’t always agree with what he says. He’s not the offensive/defensive genius that Pop or a top coach is, but he does a decent job with offensive/defensive schemes and uses his time outs wisely.

He was pretty sick. He ran out of gas early in the 1st quarter. And in interviews you could tell he was sick.

Of course they are not happy but they are not Lakers future …

https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/672507847440142336

https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/672508028675948544

I always watch for plays out of TOs to see how good a coach thinks, and so far, Luke Walton has done ok (maybe they are part of the coaching system). For Cliff, some have been good and a lot have been bad plays.

So we agree sideways lol :-0 !!

ill weigh in here on porz-god (as his fans call him) after watching the end of knicks loss last nite cause when kp had his first big game against hornets i was pointing out he hadn’t really done anything yet before that.

but since then he has.

he’s working his way already past okafor and headed to kat as rookie of the year.

his play at the end of the game last nite was amazing he’s doing everything. he’s really knowledgeable and really works hard. and does things at 7’3″ that normally only a point guard or long range gunner could do. watch the tape of the last few minutes of that game and you will be impressed.

calderon is arguably the worst veteran starting point gurad in the league at this point, yes lin would be unconcious with porzingis. but youd have to get rid of melo.

which knicks fans have been wanting for sometime anyway.

fantasy only some kind of 3 way trade that sends the melo one to la to replace kobe; some youngsters from the laekrs to charlotte and lin and ??? big al ??? & maybe marvin williams (so the hornets dont have to pay big all next year) to n.y. (knick go small to finish anyway and he wouldnt be worse than robin lopez).

dreaming only.

Ya! That’s for sure. BS will out of Lakers along w Kobe.

i suggest this FB-post as something to maybe highlight on the page? jlin’s “performance” via this writing is more valuable, I think, than his having 20pts/10assts or whatever.

To save the shots and spotlight for Kobe ?

Exactly. They would need to get a coach that FA would want to play for. ?Thibs, ?Luke Walton

I’m forwarding JLin’s post to my high school kid and have her forward it to her friends. I read the Atlantic article by chance a couple of weeks ago and it was truly eye-opening in terms of the tremendous pressure high school kids feel these days to “succeed” in high school in order to “succeed” in life. It’s so great that JLin took the time to write the post.

That’s the big problem. There are always few cases each year for 2 to 3 years now… This year already 2 I think…..

Check this from LA time.

Kupchak was interviewed before the Lakers lost to the Toronto Raptors, 102-93, at Air Canada Centre. He expressed support for Scott, who demoted promising young players D’Angelo Russell and Julius Randle for Monday’s game, ending their six-week run as starters.

Most of the kids did this bc the pressure for get into brand name college…. few bc love.. lots of them are boys. (Asian)

Yes, this topic needs to address. I saw first hand of the devastation when I worked in hospital over 25 years ago. It was my first day of orientation. Couldn’t handle it and hence my assignments changed to adults after that.

This tell you Mitch agreed to send them to bench.

LOL

https://twitter.com/Vines4Guys/status/673632067968724998

I can watch that 1000x.

I dont know why that Vines Guys think it is childish. It shows they are friends and comfortable with each other and having fun! When they are off court i am sure they enjoy each others friendship!

.27% is too low, like 3-1000 FGM/FGA. LOL

https://twitter.com/hoopshype/status/674357526654296064

funny…batuum never plays pg but his assist ratio is still similar to lin and walker

you have no idea what youre talking about.

Nick is more like this:”How many more times do we have to endure this circus show?” and he is secretly counting his fingers

This is easy to fix. Just make it so that if noone commits suicide that year, 5 extra students from that high school get to go to stanford. All these over achieving students will then become the tightest bunch of students youve ever seen.

he’s probably thinking, boy look at all these suckers

warriors need another league to play in. put up 44 on arguably their toughest opponent yet in indiana in the first quarter.

infinity88‏@linfinity88

micahannemarie: Trying to keep my cool in front of @JLin7 on the court,he shook my hand & said Yo to me… #DETatCHA

https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/674390075203973120

there are so many JLin fans from across the spectrum, we only see a microcosm here. Thanks for reminding me it’s a bigger community out there.

And we will start to see ppl paying to kill someone for Stanford…jk

Lakers News: Nick Young To Be Traded Very Soon
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-news-nick-young-traded-soon-2347645.html

Pacers not offering much resistance to GSW (28pt lead in 3rd qtr). They were supposed to be their biggest hurdle to their undefeated record. After that. Seems more and more likely they will be undefeated still on Christmas Day against the Cav’s. Going to be a big game.

Celtics
Bucks
Suns
Bucks
Jazz

Cavs

r a The way GSW can lose is if they get bored of winning and lose focus. If not they can always aim as close as they can for a 82-0 record and make history.

Clippers? To be next to Johnson..?

LakeShowLife has explored three possible tradedestinations for Young:

1. To Atlanta Hawks for a return of Tim Hardaway Jr.

2. To Los Angeles Clippers for a return of Lance Stephenson or Josh Smith.

3. To The New Orleans Pelicans for a return of future draft picks.

Where will Nick Young play when Christmas comes around? Only time will tell.

Wherever he plays, at least he will be playing. And not under BS. That’s all that matters.

I would be so upset if I was lance or Josh and came to clippers only to not play and get traded to the Lakers. Lol

Klay Thompson Goes Ballistic, Shoots 10/16 From Deep As Warriors Make It 23-0
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/klay-thompson-goes-ballistic-shoots-1016-deep-warriors-make-23-0-2347685.html

they did that today, yep …

2nite rockets starters: 29 pts bench 52 pts

harden 1 of 7 for 6 points with 6 turnovers.

Harden pushing to establish new stat: TO per FGM ratio.

I can’t believe he went out there and said he should have been MVP. Sometimes when people have money, they think they can just say what they want even if they can’t back it up.

Barnes, KT out, that is a serious thing. Bogut nursing a back. They have to focus on closing it out. I know 28 its uo gets boring, but the 2nd unit have to stay focused. We can’t afford to have the starters coming back in … too many games left for the streak and the season.

Mitch has little choice if wimpy Jimmy allows it.

This works well.

Me too, I think the Hornet fans are reasonable and humbler because they never had much success before. Anyway I’m a sucker for underdogs, just like Jlin and Hornets (or Leicester City in the Premier league). Really hope they do well this year and not just because Lin is in the team.

What is the chance of 82-0?? Any bets?

It’s weird. Why Harden took so less shots? Their bench played well almost could win the game for them. Thanks God, Nets won. LOL!

Lawson became really so so player in Rox now??! They don’t really trust him w D so he couldn’t get more min.

Haha…beverly try to pick a fight with ref after the game…sore lllllloooossser!

When he finally leaves that team, I bet Nick will talk about how bad it was. I really can’t wait.

Watched the Cavs. They were playing terribly and turned it around in the 2nd half. LeBron is still the best in the game. He makes a lot of tough shots due to his great one-on-one moves, can hit jumpers and scores when he needs to but he’s just a great playmaker. But where he’s better than Curry is his physical presence and defense. He made 6 great defensive plays including 2 blocks. LeBron is still King.

Not really. LeBron is just the go-to guy. When it came down to it, he couldn’t be stopped. But throughout the half the team executed. There were a lot of lobs in the game and good ball movement off of screens and so forth. But, if the shot clock winds down, LeBron still can deliver when needed.

i think clippers are ready for lance or josh smith trade..they are looking for takers as news got out recently..

Yes you bet he will talk, he’s not afraid of speaking up even now even if it means DNP!

thanks .. my phone wasn’t working too well earlier

Makes what Lin did in Houston more impressive.

Jlin write well, very inspiring. Vs Miami 4/2/15.

He probably may not even want to contribute anymore to the team. For the love of the game and maybe to the fans, but this team and coach, doubt it. Wonder if Lin, Davis, Booze, J Hill, Wesley or Ellington talk to him or Kelly, Sacre or anyone else on that team. The remaining guys who are not Kobe could use the support.

Stop Tanking, NBA Warns Philadelphia 76ers
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/stop-tanking-nba-warns-philadelphia-76ers-2347728.html

Such disrespect to BS! No warning to Tanker Supreme?

Better yet, I hope he writes a book and make some money on the side.

BS vs Hinkie competing for award for Best Tank Commander

Yep, and I think Curry is better than LeBron all the way around. Really.

Lakers Rumors: Lakers Ready To Trade D’Angelo Russell, Julius Randle For Demarcus Cousins
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-rumors-lakers-ready-trade-dangelo-russell-julius-randle-demarcus-cousins-2347739.html

Come Christmas time, the Lakers starting lineup could feature Demarcus Cousins – Larry Nance Jr – Kobe Bryant – Lou Williams – Jordan Clarkson.
http://www.morningnewsusa.com/lakers-rumors-lakers-ready-trade-dangelo-russell-julius-randle-demarcus-cousins-2347739.html

Wow! Randle + Russell for Cousins? I thought they tried before season started… but failed…(not sure at that time Lakers agreed to + Randle or not?)

they will have to give up expiring contract of hibbert.

What plus Hibbert?

Not like LeBron. Not close. LeBron had 2 blocks tonight, and can guard 1, 2, 3, 4. I don’t even know if Curry can guard 2s. Even offensively there’s stuff LeBron can do from a presence and understanding of the game standpoint that I don’t think Curry quite has yet. Curry is great, but LeBron is ultimately one of the best ever. Maybe top 5 or 6. I think Curry is the best shooter ever, but overall player ever, don’t think he’ll be in the top 10.

I dunno … you put them in the same series again and I still say Curry outplays LeBron overall.

A package Hibbert, Randle and Russell should be enough.

That wasn’t my argument. That I know. But LeBron after watching him for years and watching a good amount of GSW games and their system, and seeing LeBron take a not great team to a finals and hang in with an injury plagued team last playoffs, is a force.

For takemeback2reaganyears

Here is the news you asked for it. From the above article.

According to Yahoo Sports, the decision to bench Russell is puzzling since it was Byron Scott’s decision to pick Russell ahead of Jahlil Okafor in June’s NBA Draft. Stay tuned for Lakers Rumors.

Curry just can’t do all of the things LeBron can do. Defensively, LeBron is so far ahead. Put Curry on LeBron’s team and he probably can’t take them as far as LeBron can. GSW is a way better team than Cleveland.

What? Randle + Russeel don’t worth a lot in the league now… smh!

Moreover, Morey chose the wrong stud to replace the real star picked by his boss. There is going be a backfire sooner or later.

that’s a very competitive five i believe!!!

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7654196

I’d put my money on cousins. Blast both with one punch

Now, that’s Real Chemistry! Like them guys… just too bad JLin can’t find a big role there. They should have held onto Fredette.

Rookies don’t win. 76ers have proven that time and time agan.

its the mentality that FO is doing to them right now..but given encouragement and drastic changes within the orgAnization can change even an average player in the nba in the likes of Jeffries, Novak etc…

Colangelo to Sixers could bring D’Antoni in Philadelphia

76’ers are doing their 3rd tanking, and LAL are doing their 2nd and should get a public warning too.

I had the same thought.

Will Colangelo try to recreate the Suns with MDA system?
Jahlil Okafor can be Amare Stoudemire
And who might be the perfect Steve Nash?

If the unlikeliest turn of events happen, that’s another miracle waiting to happen!

Thanks, what I’ve never heard of doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Lol who is she?

He’s from Harvard???

Please God, let it happen!

UPenn undergrad & Harvard MBA but at least there’s a connection =)

What’s important is if Colangelo would bring up MDA name by end of season (or sooner)
I’d imagine changing a coach is a must to change a losing culture.
The talents are so raw. It’d be hard to win some games with young guys. A lot of good vets will be needed

Hinkie will be gone soon. The myth of Morey and bball analytics is falling flat on the face. Both master and disciple treated players like fantasy chips believing that one great one would save them. Look where Houston and Phili is, they are twin loservilles.

Lin on Sixers next year would be excellent. They’ll have nice talent for Lin to work with, and no longstanding ‘stars’ on the team that have a sense of entitlement.

This year. ASAP.

anyone see the rockets-nets game? besides nets shooting really well, what happened? lol

he only took 9 shots. thornton took 18.
what? even drunk harden would take more shots, i would think.

im still marveling at the boxscore. harden had 7 TOs.
brewer took 16 shots. thornton, 18. lol, what is this?

lawson had more blocks than pts. haha. sorry, this boxscore is amazing. i cant stop looking.

yeah thornton’s stat line is amazing. ive seen him get hot for 3P streaks. i guess that happened tonight.

imagine lin taking 18 shots for a game. thats just crazy.

They better get it together soon. Any more nights like this and they might just miss the playoffs. They’re lucky the West isn’t very good this year.

Oh and there’s speculation that the Rockets had too much fun at Dwight’s 30th birthday party. Might explain why they looked half asleep on the court.

i read that rockets have never won by double digits this year.
their average pt differential is -4.4
think about that. they are even worse than their record indicates.

why is lin’s block on nene not in here?

Copyright it! LOL

George Karl would probably be for it… 🙂

Wow, very very well-said.

the 50 point loss th spurs with most spurs starters sitting out i think was the last nail in the hinkie coffin.

im very pleased with this. was so sick of pundits and fans generally still buying into the con job that old stock spinner hinkie was pulling with his “process”; like he’s some kind of genius.

one writer noted that bringing in coangelo (who’s arguably the godfather of basketball operations in the nba) effectively means hinkie is “fired” regardless of what is being spun.

no one deserves their head on a pike more. what he was doing besides being fraudulent and doomed to fail was not only bad for basketball but bad for sports generally.

morey could be next if alexander still has any part of a brain left, but at that point still up to organization (team) here it was the orgainization (league) just had enuf, other teams were losing too much revenue to the

less than d-league status of the tank team in philly.

its was even more fun while happening. at one point the rockets bench had outscored the starters something like 60 to 20 something.

harden most of the game had more turnovers than points.

and it wasn’t like the starters weren’t getting minutes. thornton and brewer were doing all the scoring.

yes rockets are much worse than record; especially early in the season like this a much more reliable gauge is team point differnetial and rockets have been down on the bottom all year.

its been pointed out before than when things start to go south for harden he just sort of gives up, tunes out;

no heart of a champion here. champion partier maybe.

miami early in the season has benefited from a schedule quirk of playing 14 of their first 19 games at home! this is not even close to being matched by any other team as most all teams are somewhere close on either side of 50/50.

and as we know espeicaly in nba; home team wins the majority of the time; ie. home court advantage means more in nba than any other professional sport.

this game will be a good test to see how heat do outside the “freindly confines” where they have (to date this season) not had to venture often.

so thats one thing in hornets favor.

note: on furhter examition the lakers are at the other end of the scale having played a high porportion of their games on the road, thats probably the ONLY reason for their lack of success this season.

….hahahaha.

Sorry, I don’t agree …

First time in 3 years, Lin has a real coach and what has happened to his game is phenomenal. He has developed to be a great defender, a great player off the ball and his crossovers and dribblings have fooled even the elite players like LeBron James. Now let me ask you a question. Have you seen the best of Jeremy yet?

According to the local paper, it’s the other jl that’s on track for 6th man of the year…
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article48703410.html

Our boy is growing up to be such a fine young man

All you need is a good coach and the TO machine becomes one of your most reliable ball handler.
Lin didn’t have this kind of luxury under ex-NBA player as coaches for 3 years

Always same things. When will they stop?

At this point in the season, Lamb is statistically better on offense (although clearly no comparison on defense), and it helps that he’s been such a surprise. Let’s see if that’s sustainable.

I don’t actually mind if our Jeremy doesn’t win that so long as he keeps improving and is an impactful player. Jeremy will carve his own destiny.

The marginalization is constant and unfortunately expected. I don’t know what I’d do if Lin is treated like any other player. Probably die of shock.

No, jeremy worked on his own to improve his defense, it has nothing to do with this coach.

I disagree. In fact, I find LeBron more of a team player than Michael Jordan was. I just have to disagree with you. I think LeBron is a fine leader, didn’t bully people as much as Jordan or Kobe did. MJ won due to staying with the same team and system and having help like Pippen and Paxon and Kerr. Kobe had Shaq. Right now LeBron went to a mediocre team. He has talent around him, but they are often injured and he didn’t have key guys playing in the playoffs last year and still made it to the finals.

The comparison is to Curry because people are saying Curry is the best player in the league. I haven’t seen that watching both for years and many games this season. LeBron still is the all-around best player in the game actually based on his team play and how when needed he can carry the team but he also makes the team better with his great playmaking, rebounding, defense–he makes big defensive plays when needed, he close to shut downs 1s, 2s, 3s and 4s yet they can’t shut him down, and his physical presence almost makes him a rim protector. He also can score from the post, perimeter, and finish incredibly well around the well with either hand. Yes Curry is a brilliant shooter, great ball handler and passer and can put up a lot of points, but he also benefits from being on a great team with other great 3 point shooters and scorers and ball handlers and they have versatile players like Green. Nobody like Green exist on the Cavs, well, except for LeBron.

All great teams need more than one great player and most often a great coach. But for now, LeBron’s combination of skills and leadership has him number 1. I have not seen a selfish player with LeBron. In fact, the rap on him is he wasn’t selfish enough and didn’t put his team on his back enough. He’s found the right balance now.

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/673928239165800449

And some Lin fans are just happy w/ him getting ‘crumbs’/’leftover’, while knowing that the scale of treatment are tipped in favor of other players. Forgetting that while being suppressed, Lin’s skills are still able to shine, therefore, Lin deserves the ‘sixth man award’ nomination more than anyone else on his team.

@JLin7 fans, let’s kick-start 2015-16 JLinPortal Fundraising for JLin Foundation so we can present the check on Jan 6 Hornets vs Suns game.
Total = $100
http://www.jlinportal.com/2015-16-jlinportal-fundraising-for-jlin-foundation/

Here are the steps:
1. Donate directly to Jeremy Lin Foundation on their website (to get US Tax Deduction if you qualify)
Add ‘Collective Fundraising Effort by JLinPortal members‘ note in the Comment section to let them know it’s part of a group effort. http://www.jeremylinfoundation.org/
2. Send a copy of the email receipt to jlinportal@gmail.com so I can add the total in the post and your name in the card for Jeremy. You may choose to be anonymous.
3. Present card with donation list to Jeremy Lin on Jan 6 2016

Let’s make a difference by supporting Jeremy Lin Foundation together! Deadline is Jan 3, 2016

Thank you for all your support. Let’s hope and pray JLin will continue to make an impact on-court and off-court!

Last season’s $4100 JLin Foundation check presentation
https://twitter.com/YeungPhoto/status/557438773416697857

Here is Part 1 of JLin’s Q&A on Jan 19, 2015 with his response to appreciate his fans effort

Exactly! Thank you Heart for sharing your opinion. I always read them.

He has to make the most of what was given to him. He always work his way through the obstacles. Like water that finds its course.

Thanks Adele.

stop postimg garbage hive…sentence nobody want to sign him

Just like Lin & Boozer last season. smh!

https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674652082910052352

Setting the record straight about the latest false statement at AtTheHive article about “Cho signed Lin when no other teams wanted to”. I agreed with good comment on 6MOY but nicely corrected the false statement.

Even AtTheHive 7/10/15 own article contradicted that statement:

“He had other offers for more money from other teams but decided to rebuild his image by moving to the east coast and settling in Charlotte instead.”

https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/674657399613984768

He was afraid JLin might pull a Deandre Jordan locking himself in a house while Cuban tried to come in LOL

Check out excellent Adi Joseph article on JLin’s time in Charlotte.

This is the most important statement from JLin:

“They were just expecting me to do what I did in New York, which — it’s just not possible if you don’t have the ball in your hands,” Lin said last month.
https://twitter.com/AdiJoseph/status/674651389876936704

Why not ours? Dedicated fans. Of course we are a very large, world wide “we”, expansive enough to be pushing the limits of what “ours” could mean…but what the heck 🙂

No, It should be “Mine”…. all mine! LOL.

Why does this always happen to Jeremy with contracts? *sigh* why did he sign with HOU and not NY? No other team wanted him? blah blah blah. So sad that misinformation gets spread around.

From that sportingnews article they referred to production by position. It allows one to look at statistics when playing a position. JLin’s stats were always diluted by him playing SG half the time as opposed to Walker playing PG. Now this chart shows stats when split out when he’s playing PG. And not surprisingly they are better across the board to Kemba:

http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/nba-playing-time-estimates-by-position/

Walker
NetRtg 0.1
eFG 49.1%
Points per 36 18.5
Asst per 36 4.9

Lin
NetRtg 14.9
eFG 50.6%
Points per 36 20.2
Asst per 36 6.1

So even in a shooting slump his eFG is better than Walker who is shooting the best in his career. Critics will still say though that Lin is playing against lesser competition though.

No, we want Lin to be the All Star.

Yep, Hornets were afraid that Lin would do the ‘Jordan’ on them?

Oh oh. There will be retribution. Didn’t Russel learn from Swaggy about speaking Kobe’s name in vain

https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/674653678272438273

He doesn’t deserve any respect. I hope he never gets a coaching job anywhere again when the Lakers come out of their fog and fire this fraud.

Co-6th man of the year? I guess that’s not possible. I don’t even know if either one will get it. Where I disagree with PFV is him saying Lamb is 6th man. I don’t think so. I think it looks like Lamb is for a few games, then Lin, then Lamb. Ultimately, since Lin’s defense is better and his ability to make big plays in the clutch, I think Lin may get the tip for the 6th man usage. And yes, that’s with him coming off of the bench usually 9th. But even that may change later in the season.

This youngster is not wise
DNP will follow, or even worse 10min PT to destroy stats

But it could be purely “accidental” =)

OMG, Russell really can’t wait to be traded…

he’s definitely frustrated and not thinking straight.
Someone needs to give him advice before his career stops to a halt

Maybe he wants to be traded along with Swaggy.

if you want to come on Jan 6 game, let me know =)

He is a really good actor. 🙂

https://twitter.com/hornets/status/674680776236118016

Unfortunate situation. I hope this means Hansbrough gets more play time, but probably not likely

Hornets & Al’s statement
https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/674682496231968768

devin kharpertian
‏@uuords
I believe there’s only one anti-drug violation that comes with a five-game suspension: testing positive for marijuana three times.
https://twitter.com/uuords/status/674681653311184896

drug testing?

genius fired. who could imagine.

so he has to be ceritifed as off whatever sort of equivalent of the dl is in nba and only then would his suspension begin? yes?

could that be juggled as desired by team? ie. if they want him back; ok hes ready to play now (even tho hes not) and then take his suspension, or if they dont want him back; hes not ready to play yet (even tho he is) and extend his abscence?

ie. who determines when his injury time off is over and his suspension time off begins?

Lol, lol.

Panzer division. They’ll never run out of gas if they can somehow harness all that biofuel from BS piling up for 2 years.

I thought about it but unfortunately, it is middle of the week. If it was close to the weekend, I would definitely go 🙂

yeah, I prob. won’t have time to do it full-time for them 🙂

It’s just a dig that’s so wrong. Even their own article contradicted them.

probably through some random drug-testing

new game thread is open
http://www.jlinportal.com/g21-mia-cha-game-thread/

1. Would the Hornets take the home game against the Heat after losing the 1st game on the road?
This win can potentially place the Hornets as the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference standing so it is an important game.

2. Will JLin play well against the always-tough-Miami-trapping defense?

Let’s go, JLin! Let’s continue to shoot at least 8FG & 4 FT attempts. Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens