G32 CHA @TOR Game Thread

Will JLin play? He is listed probable but since he was seen limping 2 days ago, let’s hope he rests his ankle until he is 100%. He simply can’t afford to have lingering injury this season.
Edit: It’s good to finally get the update that he will be out for this game

It will be another interesting game to see if the Hornets struggle defensively like the last game vs the Clippers by giving up the season record 122 points in a loss. But another loss means the #9 Hornets in Eastern Conference Standing is slipping further away from the playoff run. Let’s go, Hornets!


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Guess JLin's stats in Game 33 vs OKC (if he plays)
  • heart

    1***

  • DX

    2nd

  • Brent Yen

    Happy new year!

  • heart

    HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL! LIN FOR THE WIN 2016!

  • 1mtoldman

    oh i get it the * are for each time you get a first.

  • heart

    GOOD JOB! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

  • Rick Johnson

    Wonder if they play with Batum / Walker and lose and remember they beat the Raptors without Batum but with Lin they will make the connection? I’d guess probably not, they will attribute it to home court advantage.

  • sws94

    Lin is out so it’ll be a game some won’t watch and others will to see what unfolds. Happy New Year.

  • sws94

    Lin’s contributions and worth to this team is known, in my opinion.

  • CJSHYY
  • tom

    What a bummer
    Just as he was starting to solidify his role as the team’s 6th man, this happens.
    Team really needed to win some games here.
    Oh well, not getting injured is an important skill too.

  • Alain Gervais

    some say he is hopeful some say out??????

  • tom

    Officially out now

  • sws94

    Look, it’s 2 games. We don’t know how many more. It’s not a Jefferson situation. Hawes has already missed 3 games and yes, I realize Hawes isn’t anywhere as central to the team as Lin. Batum missed a game and came back so-so in the next. Lin may play tomorrow night or not. We’ll just have to be patient, injuries happen, and hopefully he won’t be out that long. Him not playing also solidifies how much he’s needed in my opinion.

  • Alain Gervais

    well better safe then sorry

  • tom

    If the Hornets lose, then sure but if they go on a winning streak then Lin will become obsolete especially if Lamb goes on a run.

  • sws94

    Fair point for sure. We’ll see what happens. But I don’t think when Lin scored his 35 Cliff was thinking Batum wasn’t necessary. Lin is needed for defense badly on this team plus leadership, taking pressure off of Kemba and Batum, etc.

  • CJSHYY

    Too bad he can’t play… all these jerseys…Haha!

    https://twitter.com/ChrisFredric64/status/682994310116175872

  • tom

    Batum and Kemba are his 2 best players I don’t think Lin is there yet but yah we’ll see

  • Rick Johnson

    No Houston jersey though.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Hate Rox. Me too. LOL!

  • jolno

    Can’t really see the Hornets winning this game without their best player Lin and the Raptors having extra motivations after the painful overtime loss in Charlotte.

    It’s extremely unlikely that Lowry will have another awful shooting night again and unfortunately the Hornets will not be able to put the defensive stopper Lin to stop Lowry when he gets hot.

    All in all, I will be very surprised if the Hornets pull out a win. The only way I can see them winning is if the Raptors partied too hard over New Year at home and Batum all of a sudden decides to impress his preferred destination team during free agency after this season.

  • Rick Johnson

    If they lose with Cliffs “2 best players” but win with Lin without Batum maybe Cliff will start rethinking who his most important players are.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Raptors will win.

  • jolno

    The Raptors is just a better team than the Hornets now because the Hornets are more interested in politics than actually building a winning basketball team.

    With that being said, now is a good time to see how valuable Lin is to this team (even this very limited often ordered to stand in the corner version).

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Excellent prediction.

  • TTNN

    I hope Hornets win, they need every win to get into play off. However, if they lose, it is okay with me too.

  • Acbc

    Whatever, the “2 best players” are always digging holes that others have to make up. Can’t change minds already drunk on coolaide. Fold and move on.

  • donsmacau

    Deep down, I believe Cliff isn’t stupid he knows how good JLIN is but the entire organization from MJ on down is aligned toward their superstars. Superstars take precedent over wins and can’t really blame them.

    They know JLIN is almost surely gone at season end if a team gives him a starting job.

  • heart

    Nice family pic!

  • Arsenium12 .

    This was New Year’s eve in Toronto, at an outdoor skating rink near City Hall. Best wishes, everyone, for the New Year.
    __________

  • JoeTeam

    Lin is their best player if you consider his on-court leadership, knowledge, and actually performance in keep the game 5 on 5 when he’s PG.

  • JoeTeam

    Is it too late to vote for Harsanity given Lin can still play that game today? happy new year lol.

  • kauaiblue

    ha! they have harvard instead… these guys rock!

  • tom

    I don’t think anyone outside of Lin fans sees him as that

  • tom

    Dont think he will

  • kauaiblue

    he should be a starter.

  • donsmacau

    What I remember of Raptors first game was it really was never that close until the end of the 4th quarter when imo Kemba decided to get away from the ball movement/find open man plays they used to lead the whole night, and force KW heroball.

    Because up until then I thought Hornets led by JLIN easily answered every run Raptors made with another run to stretch lead back up; also good team D forced off-balance shots/questionable looks causing some bad shooting by Lowry.

    Of course if Raptors BLOW Hornets out tonight — we’ll have JLIN’s detractors say that Hornets just squeaked by in the first game — but frankly it should have never even gotten to Overtime had Kemba not tried to do too much in the endgame.

  • sws94

    I think spot starting but Lin as versatile player from the bench and mostly closer is his role on the team I think Cliff is establishing. The starting considerations are what they are and unless PJ is out or Batum for some length of time, they aren’t likely to change.

  • sws94

    He’s not PG much. Because of Kemba’s scoring in the clutch and Batum’s central role in the offense, they are considered best. I don’t think “best” is that important with Lin. He’s central to them winning in a variety of ways.

  • sws94

    Disagree. In this system, Lin is way better used the way he is. As a starter he doesn’t get the significant usage he gets in his current role.

  • sws94

    There was a tweet posted saying he was out in the old thread. I don’t think psalm saw that before he made the writeup. Lin is out for this game.

  • sws94

    Primary reason for me wanting them to win is what you’ve given. I root for the Hornets because Lin is an active member of the team. The only time that didn’t happen was last year where I didn’t care if they lost or won without Lin because playoffs wasn’t a possibility.

  • JoeTeam

    hey well, I’m just talking about who Lin is, regardless of the role he’s playing. Else we would have never survived Rox and LAL.

  • TTNN

    I’m still debating whether I should look for tickets for Jan 4th game when Lin visit Bay area or not. With his ankle problem, not sure how long that will take for him to recover.

    I re-watched the play, looks like he came down onto Hilbert’s foot, that sound similar to his last sprain in Lakers in pre-season when he landed on Sacre’s foot. I think that time it took him more than a week to recover. So it will be exactly one week then, it is hard to predict on Monday.

    Though he usually tried to play when he visit Bayarea since he had lots of friends here, but now his family are not around, and he is in the league long enough, not sure whether he would still try to play or not. I hope he wait till it is fully recovered.

  • JoeTeam

    don’t lose faith and go with what seems to be the river when it could be not so – there are many people who are Lin fans by that definition because you can hear the announcers and positive press this year. They are not just following the money, there is real emotion when they say great things about Lin. Also, who cares if it’s just Lin fans or not – JLin is himself by God, as he’s said it, so looking at him from a higher perspective is all one needs to do.

  • tom

    Its against the Hornets You can wait until last minute I suppose

  • JoeTeam

    Hey bro, you are Bay Area. Cool. I like your posts. Doesn’t mean I’ll go emo on you and ask you out for coffee lol. Go JLin. Jan 4 … hmmm, he did play through it the rest of the game and D is pretty hard on an ankle. Hard to judge good luck with the decision. Me, I’m going to enjoy it on TV why not. GSW is a lot of money these days and it buys a kid a bike, etc. so I’m onto the barter system to evaluate spending risks lol. Happy New Yr TTNN!

  • JoeTeam

    Not with GSW and JLin. That’s a popular ticket in the Bay Area, costs have gone up 4-8x from even 2 yrs ago. Blame it on Steph 🙂

  • Kw Lee
  • TTNN

    thanks! Exactly, GSW tickets are getting more expensive now, and traffic is something. 🙁

  • donsmacau

    Like that stat, Nice. Looks like an All-Star performance on that stat to me.

  • TTNN

    exactly, I just feel that Lin will shine more if they get into playoff, and people all have short memory, one great game in playoff is more useful than couple of good games in regular season.

    I just really really want Hornets to get into playoff, and now East is so competitive which is harder now.

  • JoeTeam

    When I go, I take the late afternoon off and go early like around 5. Then I can do my mobile email etc in the car, and I don’t worry about being late. Then I go in when it opens, and I get to watch Steph warm up and guess if he’s hot that night or not. Just a way to avoid traffic. Also to get out, I park in the south lot away from the arena, in the first row out. Then, whenever I leave, I can zip out and go south on the freeway. Any further north than that and you’re stuck going north in heavy traffic. I’ve also parked in the far north, again v close to the exit lanes. Saves 20 mins after some games. Happy day!

  • Rick Johnson

    Wouldn’t it be better to park at a BART station and take that in? Or is it pretty crazy catching BART when the area empties out?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Even Lin himself would not know 100% either. But it’s worth the risk for Lin only visit.

  • tom

    Yah damn curry
    but if both Lin and curry are out
    nobody wants to see the game lol

  • TTNN

    that’s cool tips I should remember. Thanks.

  • tom

    I’d bike there

  • JoeTeam

    Bart’s easy too.

  • JoeTeam

    around there is v industrial with fast cars on may over-passes and run down neighborhoods. That’s why GSW are moving to SF, because it’s hard to attack a good neighborhood crowd with people hanging out after like at the Giant’s baseball PacBell Park.

  • JoeTeam

    you got a point, but I liked seeing GSW beat HOU with KT and DG and Iggy, etc stepping up. Good bball, and also a nice reprise of that classic (star wars) story of good vs you know …

  • JoeTeam

    acdc: This is the power of a coach over his/her apprentice:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-report-20160101-story.html

  • Acbc

    Raptors won last game at home with a lot of help from refs. Some very questionable calls late in game against Wiz, especially one on DeRozen in the paint that looked like a clean block by Wall. The differential was 38-17 or something like that. I’m a raptors fan and even I was smh. The home court refs are really out of control.

    Bismark Biyomba had a double double again with 12 points and 10 rebounds. Unreal how Cho and Clifford let this guy walk away.

  • Acbc

    There are over 500,000 Asians in greater Toronto. It was crazy when Lin went there the first time when he buried that 3 scoring 6 of the last points for the Knicks. It was almost a home game for the Knicks.

  • tom

    I actually like Isos if done by great players

  • Acbc

    Thanks for the article. Amazing reflection on Lin to have endure so much mistreatment.

  • Rick Johnson

    More and more I’m liking this guy. Like JLin kind of an anti-Harden.

    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/683028580037718016

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I don’t understand how they would let the closest thing to a “rim protector” leave for nothing….Biyombo balances out Jefferson nicely…Al is slow and an average rebounder and shot-blocker, so if you want someone to back him up, he’d be the athletic Bismack who can offer what Jefferson can’t.

    Terrible decision by Cho.

  • LinMad

    anyone know if Lin is playing today?

  • LinMad

    Lin isn’t listed here and it’s a tweet 25 mins ago

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/683071076113330176

  • Alain Gervais
  • Acbc

    This stat pretty much say it to all the doubters that if Lin gets to be 2,3 option on any team he’d post all star numbers. He was second option when Batum went down and he posted 35pts.

  • blaznazn22

    hes big but hes still only a 19 y/o kid and a new immigrant. Only American kids without proper parenting and guidance end up doing dumb stuff, like the two nba players last week who were robbed by escorts and the other one shot and robbed outside gentlemans clubs

  • tom

    Is Nic playing?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Yes

  • blaznazn22

    i think so. lin and hawes are out again.

  • tom

    well thats a relief at least
    if they lose both nic and Lin they are dead

  • grover chang

    C’mon Hornets: play hard, play defense, and share the ball. Need the win. Lets stay in the playoff race.

  • Lin Win

    He’s over-hyped! Carl Anthony Towns and Okafor are far better. Only reason people think Porzingis is good is because he’s marketed well by the Knicks.

  • Acbc

    Clifford put him on the bench for 2 years first.

  • BobbyH

    The leadership should step up, not leading to ISO but to team-ball. And we all know that.

  • TTNN

    Hornets don’t really have money for him last summer. They have only mid level exception and Room exception there, and then they could only sign minimum contracts. If they kept Bismack, they will need to pay tax. I don’t think the team has that high view about him to pay tax.

    Also, they are trying to free up as much salary next summer as possible, so they don’t want to give Biyombo long term contract, I do think that’s the same reason why they don’t want to keep PJ. They are okay player, but not the player worth to lock up their flexibility for.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I personally would had traded Zeller and keep Biyonbo..I don’t know whether the money that would had been clear by trading Zeller would have been enough to keep Biyombo.

  • HY C

    CCYAA (@CCYAA)1/1/16, 6:35 PM
    Swoosh! @JLin7 out for tonight but still makes it look so effortless #asianheritagenight pic.twitter.com/Kt56ryiFxG

  • HY C

    Jee-Yun Lee (@JeeYunTV)1/1/16, 6:36 PM
    Incredible to see @JLin7 @clt_hornets warm up @AirCanadaCentre. #raptors sherbets #WeTheNorth #Raptors #Toronto #nba pic.twitter.com/hCc7UePlE4

  • sws94

    Missed Cliff’s interview until the very end and he said miss his defense right now. Was he talking about Lin?

  • Michael

    Happy New Year!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Marvin Williams has hit a horrible slump.

  • DX

    Always believe Lin is better than Lowry.

  • DX

    Prepare for tomorrow’s game?

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • sws94

    They actually look decent so far. No slow start.

  • DX

    Because Raptors played bad at 1Q. Even that Raptors got 29.

  • I see they put more effort on defense after the Clippers game so it’s good to see that

  • Alain Gervais

    where the defense

  • Bench Force 1 is missing JLin’s defensive energy

  • stam

    Roberts playing well today

  • Alain Gervais

    everyone on both team doing well thanks to the defense

  • stam

    lol nice.

  • sws94

    They were chewed out I’m sure. It also helps the shots are falling so they are keeping up with Toronto in scoring.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m rooting for Hansbrough to have a break out game.

  • Alain Gervais

    no defense on both sides

  • Without Lin’s presence, Cory Joseph scored 6 pts in 6 min.
    Last game he had 7pts in 34min

  • LinMad

    The only way we can win this game is if we outscore them cause our defense is not there. We’ve been tied up 9 times already. It’s just trading baskets now.

  • Alain Gervais

    to be fair everyone on both team having a good time

  • Acbc

    Lowrey is a very good player. He put up 41 against GSW but he missed a FT in the last minute to tie the game. They are a good regular season team but needs someone to clutch their playoff run. Lin’s game when he made that last 3 was typical of his clutch play. That whole game Lin struggled until the 4th. In the last minute he tied the game with a drive and one. Then made the 3 to put the game away.

  • LinMad

    Batum almost lost the ball right there…He tried to do a behind the back no look pass which was careless

  • JoeTeam

    Yeah, it really says a lot about Lin’s spirit to read an article like that about someone who has a red carpet from dad, luke lol.

  • yes, Raptors also don’t play much D in this game

  • JoeTeam

    Lin was in the zone and his coach saw it clearly and said use the force, Luke.

  • Acbc

    I want Lin to win defensive player of the year more than 6th man of the year.

  • it’s very possible since TOR defense looks slightly worse than the Hornets

  • Alain Gervais

    lamb on lowry is a bad idea

  • tom

    lol Lamb is back?

  • stam

    i think kemba might have gotten slightly hurt (he was holding on to his chest a few times after) on that play but it was a good drive

  • DX

    1-8 before made this.

  • DX

    2-10 now.

  • Alain Gervais

    2-11

  • stam

    Wish Lin had the freedom to continue to shoot like that

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • TTNN

    looks like still applying pressure on the ankle, so still trying to stop the swollen then.

  • tom

    Jesus!
    I just wanna watch him play
    is that too much to ask?

  • TTNN

    yeah, looks like Lin could not play tomorrow either….. by the way he is limping

  • Acbc

    Yep, Lin turned it on late in the game and made it when needed. I always compare that MDA moment with Mchale and the last play against Spurs where Lin had 38pts. MDA gave Lin a stare that said ” I have faith in you ” and Mchale turned away from Lin and left him with doubt. Coaching is about these transcendent moments when you can either open possibilities for the player or lock them down to your expectations of failure from them.

    That article you sent me talks about that very thing.

  • DX

    Raptors played so bad. Will be lead 20 if LIN is in.

  • JoeTeam

    That’s why mchale is not a good coach. Yeah, good post.

  • JoeTeam

    My version of that is the post up. Shaun Livingston had a fun one because he had a nice step back jumper. More fun than a big post up, more options.

  • JoeTeam

    That was a great time fir Chinese Canadians.

  • JoeTeam

    Great hair tonight

  • spiderman

    It takes maturity to do the right thing. A real man does not need to pay women cash for their company. Porzingis is more mature then many NBA players

  • Hornets up 82-74 at the end of the 3rd quarter.
    They can steal this one if TOR continues to struggle on offense (37% FG vs 47% for Hornets)

  • Yascar

    Can’t shake them off so far. Toronto keeps closing every time there is any sort of separation. I hope Hornets win, it will be good for their standing in the East.

  • And .. just like that TOR tied it 82-82 with 10 min left
    Let’s hope they can withstand this run

  • Guest

    Clutch time, hornets will miss Lin. Hornets might loose a close game.

  • sws94

    Yep. Lowry again is not playing that great but them close in their own building can have them coming out on top in the end.

  • DX

    Lowry 32mins, 3-10, 8 pts, 6 TOs. Kemba 6-16. Who said Lin can not be a starter?

  • sws94

    I rarely see Lowry play well. He can get streaky and hit bad shots, but I don’t find his game that great.

  • Yascar

    Agree with you. Strange how he drops off big at certain games and times of the season. Last year it was very marked coming into the playoffs.

  • Yascar

    Oh c’mon Hornets!! This is starting to get ugly.

  • Alain Gervais

    hornets defense and rebounding is pitiful

  • very true. Even if Lin struggles in shooting, he can always drive to get FTs at the rim with his speed

  • sws94

    He can be for sure. It’s just teams use him differently. Kebab’s not shooting great but made timely hoops. Shooting too much though.

  • yes, these 2nd opportunities are killing the Hornets 92-86 now w 6 min left

  • sws94

    They’re fading, Raptors are getting the momentum.

  • Epie

    Is Lamb guarding anyone?

  • I think his strength is driving like Lin but you’re right, he’s very streaky

  • Lin Win

    Lol at the rate we are going Kemba or Batum will get injured. There’s no way both of them can carry Lin’s load.

  • DX

    Yes, also he can make others score too. Lin only need enough PT and ball in hands.

  • Alain Gervais

    without lin the hornets offense is predictable. its either in kemba or batums hands all game.

  • sws94

    Yep, Lin’s absence is really loud in this game.

  • Alain Gervais

    And i didn’t even mention defense

  • Alain Gervais

    Lol Lambs defense

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    My wish for JLin is to let him heal well before he plays. No point to cause further injury for anyone and any team!

  • Marvin clutch 3 made it 91-94 with 5 min left

  • MW-sanity.. 94-94 now 😀

  • Alain Gervais

    lol yep

  • haha .. keep the hot hands going!

  • Briiick

    It looks like that Hornets are losing the game without Lin. Last time Lin helped them win without Batum. So who is the difference maker ? I am not putting Batum down but Lin is the only difference maker of the team even when he not fully empowered.

  • sws94

    Bad Kemba, there. Had Lamb open.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lamb being abused by refs

  • this is the main problem with Hornets.

    No one can drive to draw double-team to create open shots for teammates like Lin.
    Kemba can drive but only to shoot for himself.

  • Lin Win

    That Kemba Iso was so lol.
    Tried to look alpha but failed

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin is that guy. Thats his role.

  • Epie

    Kemba always misses the most critical shots and quit defending after he misses. Saw this too many times before.

  • Alain Gervais

    why lamb shoot that

  • Lin Win

    No assist plays only isoing

  • Unfortunately, he’s only doing so if Kemba and Batum ISOs+playmaking don’t work

  • your son’s voltaire

    oh my. that selfish shot by Lamb. looks like Batum was fuming about it

  • Alain Gervais

    Cliff talking to Lamb.

  • didn’t batum miss a shot from reeeeaaallly far away when Lin was open, at a crucial moment toward the end of a game?

  • Frustrated Batum buried his face on the towel..
    Poor guy is missing JLin now

  • your son’s voltaire

    yeah. that was the boston game. i was gonna say, Batum does the same lol

  • JoeTeam

    The kw way to finish.

  • Briiick

    Batum is not Lin the difference maker after all.

  • Epie

    GG Batum

  • Alain Gervais

    game over

  • oh my… Batum weak pass to Zeller got stolen

  • Alain Gervais

    Lamb 2-10

  • your son’s voltaire

    at least clifford sat Lamb for that seriously selfish play

  • Batum is a good SF but this SG experiment is very painful to watch

  • props to brian roberts, he had a nice game (from stats).

  • MoominFloren

    Hornets only got 12 pts in Q4…

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    over 27 minutes for 5 points as SG

  • he’s in the Lamb dog house now

  • Lin Win

    Lin > Batum
    Lin + Kemba = Win
    Batum + Kemba = Lose

    No Lin No Win!

  • 8pts in 17 min but the worst -12 is probably not good

  • Yascar

    Cliff is going to hit the roof. Post game will be like 7 seconds or less.

  • I think Hornets fans are missing JLin very much by this time

  • oh yeah, that’s true.

  • Lin Win

    Our hard earned 2 wins from Mem and Lakers just went to the toilet

  • Linsanity2.0

    NO LIN NO WIN!

  • Hornets was outscored 30-12 in the 4th quarter. Yikes!
    #GetWellSoon @JLin7

  • ghost

    No Lin, no win! No way! No how! With Lin Shu Hao, you win some how!

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lamb was playing SF (guarding Terrance Ross). obviously a mismatch but the last time they met, Lin also played SF (guarding Terrance Ross) and destroyed him.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Have no desire to watch the game except follow the stat periodically. Well, it’s an interesting loss by the sound of it. Guess Hornets/Cliff learns to appreciate JLin even more than a bench player. Give him a starter job rather than push him to be the 4th/5th/6th/7th…… player/scorer for the team.

  • Briiick

    Hornets need to re-think about who they should give the offer first in the summer.

  • rookie75094

    Cliff is in a tough position now….win with Lin playing pg or lose with Lin stand in the corner.

  • tom

    So Clifford played Lamb 28mins tonight he wasnt even that good
    shouldve played other guys

  • Epie

    Same here.. No desire to watch anymore. Off to the Sixers game..

  • your son’s voltaire

    yup. Lamb better get use to the cramp living space cus it may end up being his permanent home

  • heart

    Sorry Hornets for the loss. Hornets got this game for 3 quarters, and they could have used Lin, Mr. 4th quarter. Batum seems to always makes crucial TO at the most critical time. Hornets’ leadership on the floor was missing from their designated core leaders/players, NB & KW.

  • tom

    he still played 27mins tonight smh not sure what cliffords thinking

  • your son’s voltaire

    just as i predicted. kobe out with shoulder injury due to his jealousy and hate filled flagrant foul committed towards Lin last week. karma is a b….

  • Singapore BB Fan

    KW is not a true leader. Simply Overhyped overrated. Glad hornet loss. Chucking 7-21 will not get to the playoff anytime anynight.

  • your son’s voltaire

    actually, trying to win. notice it was either Lamb or PJ. i’d still go with Lamb. i mean, who knew Lamb would pull that stunt at the end of the game

  • David Kim

    No Lin No Win!!!

  • tom

    He wasnt good at all tonight
    people are complaining about it hornets fans

  • occupatio

    Hornets starting PG plays 36 minutes and gets only 3 assists. The NBA, where amazing happens.

  • your son’s voltaire

    both equally bad tonight. but PJ is worst most nights and usually don’t get to finish games. it was always either Lin or Lamb

  • CJSHYY

    That’s the way he’s… I am watching Bulls vs NYK now. Butler got 23 pts but he also got 6 AS.

  • heart

    Same thought here. Biyombo is a gold rebounder and rim protector. I think he can play better than Valanciunas as he gets PT and more experience. He also makes FTs.

  • tom

    They might need to play Lin tomorrow can go 0-3

  • CJSHYY

    Lin is still walking limp why plays?

  • Steppen03

    Happy New Year! , fellow JL7 fans =). Best wishes to y’all !
    Tough loss for the Hornets but it comes to show just how valuable Lin is to this team and now there are games to prove it.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Cliff makes sure JLin is no savior. Hornets rather lose than making Lin the hero.

  • your son’s voltaire

    the Hornets are now losing games without Lin. he will need to bail them out of the losing streaks just as he always bailed them out of point deficits

  • tom

    Don’t think that’s the case here

  • Professor Lin wished he could help his teammates on-court

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/683094166214066177

  • Epie

    Looking sharp

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Maybe…$2M player to the rescue… That’s ridiculous

  • tom

    Not at all Clif has been playing him 30mins lately

  • DX

    Is there a dress code for out players on bench?

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Sry I loss faith in Cliff when he did not keep his part of the deal with Lin. 30min with Kemba running PG just makes me sick.

  • ghost

    But that didn’t stop Kobe from aggravating Lin’s injury with that slick help me up while I step on your ankle maneuver.

  • If Lin is still walking with a limp today, there’s no way he’s in a good condition to play tomorrow

    https://twitter.com/Sam_Huang_Fan/status/683099474978291712

  • CJSHYY

    I think so it’s no need to play tomorrow.

  • DX

    Lin should just stay in Charlotte instead flight to Toronto.

  • heart

    Why did Batum only take 9 shots and KW 21 shots? Is NB’s toe still hurting? Does anyone know?

  • I think he wants to support his teammates and test during morning shoot-around if he’s healthy enough to help.

    But if he can’t run, there’s no way he can help the team in a meaningful way to win.
    Maybe it’s more for moral support

  • CJSHYY

    I think Batum is still not fully recover yet… but since no Lin they asked him to play tonight.

  • ghost

    At least 36 minutes is reasonable. I bet you when Lin comes back Kemba gets 41 min again.

  • blueCypher
  • DX

    You are maybe right. But should be better for him if just stay and recover.

  • oh, he’s doing Asian Heritage Night in TOR now

  • Briiick

    I guess the management has come to realize that Batum is 50/50 on signing with them and he is not winning more games for them at 2.

  • ah so JLin had to fly to Toronto to speak at the Asian Heritage Night

  • tom

    take** you mean?

  • heart

    Thanks. No Lin to draw defense to take pressure off KW and NB is felt tonight for sure.

  • heart

    thanks, edited.

  • Yascar

    Yea there is.

  • Briiick

    We had seen similar rotation back in Rox.

  • Dan Cohen

    all kobe’s fault

  • Dan Cohen

    No Lin Trade Him

  • Guest

    That’s right. The last Raptors game, Hornets were leading 12pts at halftime with Lin leading the team. Enough said.

  • BobbyH

    Tank vs Tank live. Young guns vs Young guns (-Kobe)

  • Lin Win

    Worst 3 teams for catch and shoot!

    Charlotte no doubt is the worst team. Even though we have an offRtg of 9 it is still bad.

    Which is why we will die by Kemba/Batum/ and especially Frank/Zeller’s stupid 3s.

    Lin is also to blame since he is the dude who usually drives and kicks.
    One of the main reasons why Lin is also to blame is because:
    – his drives and kicks aren’t towards an open target
    – the open shooters are just bad

    – Lin’s drive doesn’t get any shooters open

  • Guest

    But Lin still Wins.

  • Lin Win

    What’s surprising to me is that our catch and shoot 3’s are 5th in the league.
    Houston is 24th with their sharp shooter Ariza and Har en!

  • Lin Win

    Of course but Lin can’t win all the games.

  • NONONO

    No Lin, No win, No pizza. I did not watch, but the result is what I expected, although it was not I wish for.

  • Hope

    Want to watch the 76ers game, but can’t.

  • DX

    Need a link?

  • sws94

    Still don’t see anything that impressive about Hansbrough to make KHuang rave about him so much. He’s very limited from what I’ve seen. Unless he’s very rusty, he just really was a negative tonight.

  • BobbyH

    2 minutes into game, PHI 1 vs LAL 2. Yes, scores, not RB, or blocks or TO.

  • Hope

    It’s not on lp. Not sure why?

  • tom

    Was a beast in college
    kind of struggling in the NBA
    He’s all hustle

  • DX

    I am watching on-line streaming.

  • sws94

    He doesn’t play very smart.

  • CJSHYY

    Not see anything special about Ish yet… But these two teams play so so to me. No Kobe tonight.

  • rookie75094

    Smith blew an easy layup

  • CJSHYY

    This game is sort of boring to me. After 1Q I am out.

  • rookie75094

    It is on lp..I an watching it

  • joyce ward

    Way of Spades ‏@RealJamesBeck 6m6 minutes ago
    These last two games w/o @JLin7 make that absolutely clear.

  • rookie75094

    I tune in to watch MDA on the bench…lol

  • DX

    When watching the game Lakers vs 76ers. These bottom teams don’t even want good player, just tanking. This makes Lin hardly get starting position in NBA.

  • CJSHYY

    I am watching 76 feed but not see him yet… These players just can’t make me stay to watch…. LOL!

  • joyce ward
  • CJSHYY

    He needed to do so but never … smh!

  • joyce ward
  • rookie75094

    I saw him on the bench and begin of a time out…MDA stood up and start tapping butt of players walking by him

  • Whitman Lam

    I agree. There’s no way Lin would allow Austin Rivers to score 22 points in that Clippers game. Or let Toronto go on a 13-2 run to start the 4th quarter and put the game out of reach.

  • joyce ward

    Way of Spades ‏@RealJamesBeck 13m13 minutes ago
    Having Jeremy Lin on your team changes everything about your team…how other teams defend u, better shots 4 teammates and ball movement

  • joyce ward

    Bring Back The Buzz™ ‏@BringBackTheBuz 1h1 hour ago
    I’m getting real sick of these Batum turnovers.

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Really well said…

  • Whitman Lam

    I think his injury might be a lot more serious than just an ankle sprain….

  • joyce ward

    Travis (CAR 14-1) ‏@Mr_Travy 1h1 hour ago
    Can someone tell Kemba to pass the ball like a PG should?

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! I turned off the game already…Sorry MDA, I like you but I’m just not interested in the game …. LOL!

  • Whitman Lam

    Roberts had 0 Ast, and he did nothing to stop Corey Joseph from driving and dishing.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    It’s a very young team. Noel can be fun to watch, sometimes Grant and Okafor does some cool stuff sometimes. Noel would be good with Lin…on another team. Not Philly.

  • Whitman Lam

    Without Lin, Kemba shows his true colors as a volume shooter and not a passing point guard.

  • CJSHYY

    W or W/O Lin, Kemba is always the same guy. Just shoot…..

  • tom

    LOL exactly ahaha

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets is #10 now. Anyone knows what did Cliff say in his postgame interview?

  • PETE B

    if he had dr x ray/mri and they let him shoot in practice few days ago then he was cleared for practicing shooting but not contact or walk through but a bad sprain for sure

  • sws94

    I’ll check it and report back.

  • CJSHYY

    Thanks.

  • JoeTeam

    A foul a minute.

  • joyce ward

    Seems that the Charlotte fans have got the memo that lin is the “it factor” to Charlotte winning games.

  • JoeTeam

    I like it!

  • Briiick

    Time to vote for Lin !
    Lin is the difference maker (even when not playing LOL !).

  • CJSHYY

    Good to know that… Haha!

  • spiderman

    Now if only management, owner and coach would get the same memo

  • Briiick

    LOL but well said !

  • sws94

    Cliff: Team did a lot of good things, should have been up 8-12 in the 3rd. Team didn’t rebound, big difference. They have to fight for the board in coming games. Defending a lot and them getting rebounds took away their spirit. They had a stretch of games earlier in the year where rebounding was a problem, they rectified it, but it is again a problem. His interview was less than a minute.

  • tom

    Austin Rivers, probably not but Toronto going on a 13-2 run? thats out of Lins reach He cant defend all 5 of them

  • Briiick

    If he doesn’t stop the losing streak he could be fired before his contract extension becomes active.

  • tom

    Seems like he’s feeling pretty good about it except for the rebs

  • CJSHYY

    Again. Short interview… smh!

  • sws94

    Definitely wasn’t mad like the other night but frustrated that Toronto had a higher effort in rebounding in the 4th.

  • CJSHYY

    Didn’t watch the game, So it’s true?

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • joyce ward

    The team sucked. There was no defense, no urgency ,no teamball, and most of all no leadership on the court. Batum/Walker are mediocre one dimensional players,who themselves believe that they are so much more and they are not.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I agree this team will be suck again next season when Lin is out of Hornets.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • sws94

    I think they made a lot of shots and kept the score close but they didn’t have the same amount of effort for loose balls and rebounds as the Raptors. They aren’t a cohesive offense and really miss Lin’s presence on both ends in my opinion.

  • tom

    So after PJ hmm

  • tom

    Needed their glue guy tonight

  • CJSHYY

    Well, I think Cliff means in 4Q Lin was in for D (PJ would not close game, Batum was in for O…) Don’t know I should say happy or not… Why not Lin is in for O & Batum is in for D?! I think it’s for ASG purpose.

  • tom

    Because Clifford is a company man lol
    His offence is subpar

  • Steppen03

    No Way. Cliff cannot get fired. Who’s a promising coach out there right now ? Gonna risk coach/players chemistry ? Plus, Cliff is not the one holding all the cards – think Cho & MJ got some.

  • Alain Gervais

    Lin- a little to close buddy lol

  • kauaiblue

    how do you know?

  • your son’s voltaire

    clifford loves to water down LIn’s abilities by grouping him with other players like when talking about Lin’s pick and roll, he would always say, “Lin, Batum and Kemba are excellent pnr players”. no, Lin is the real deal on pick and roll and on defense. those other guys don’t even compare

  • LinMad

    nice to see his fans are so diverse

  • LinMad

    That’s so true. Lin is known for his PnR. It is what made Linsanity and it’s what makes him, him. To even compare Lin’s PnR game with Kemba and Batum, especially Batum who has never played PG before, is a huge stretch.

  • your son’s voltaire

    you said it, sista. it was definitely no DEFENSE, no urgency, no teamball, and no leadership. it wasn’t really rebounding which the fake coach tried to put it on. and at the of the game kemba and lamb just took turns hogging the ball and isolating. AND, both guys took turns getting scored on. something about these uconn guys.. smh

  • your son’s voltaire

    all politics with this coach. he just doesn’t want Lin to start so he made stuff up like “Batum is a great passer and pnr player” and “PJ is a great defender”. that way he can slide Batum to the shooting guard position and start PJ at the small forward position. the sad part is people actually believes it

  • joyce ward

    By some of the tweets, which I posted above.

  • occupatio

    ive said before, in cliff’s eyes, Lin is just the PJ for the second half of the game.

    he’s there to play D, and eat from kemba and batum’s leftovers.

  • PETE B

    Yep

  • Yascar

    This Lakers-Sixers game is like Dumb and Dumber.

  • Hope

    what are the reasons that lin is not a starter for hornets?

    1. He was brought in to be bench player

  • Briiick

    It is up to MJ to pull it. MJ didn’t want Lin to start in order to protect KW’s status ( in his mind), I guess.
    Therefore they
    preferred Batum to Lin for the off-season re-signing. if they let Lin
    start, Batum will have to play at 3 which eliminates the possibility of
    re-signing him when MKG returns.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! I know so I gave up don’t want to waste my time… smh!

  • kauaiblue

    Ok, got it… thx

  • Yascar

    Yeah just turned it off myself. I think Lakers will win.

  • sws94

    I’m hanging with it but this game is ugly. You guys know my opinion on Philly.

  • kauaiblue

    Lol

  • Hope

    Lin to the 76ers already. Let’s get this team train early and ready for next year playoff run.

  • kauaiblue

    Jlin doing the dirtywork for batum and walker…

  • kauaiblue

    BS… clifford is just like the others.

  • kauaiblue

    Ur right on point…

  • tom

    Did you not see just how bad they were…

  • tom

    Not at all
    its up to Clifford

  • sws94

    Do you ever watch the 76ers? Did you see how they played tonight?

  • Ben Johnson

    I saw how bad the guards were…the front court looked decent, and with possibly 2 top 3 draft picks and plenty of cash to pick up good SGs in the offseason (Beal or Harrison Barnes), I’ll take the Sixers over any team

  • your son’s voltaire

    not as bad as the hornets without Lin

  • Ben Johnson

    They should just trade injury prone MKG in the offseason for some quality 3 and D players…sign Beal or Barnes to play SG, play Batum at SF, and beg Jeremy to come back as the 6th man

  • CJSHYY

    Lakers won! Ish played bad tonight.

  • Hope

    You don’t see what I see.

  • sws94

    Not at all. Philadelphia looked terrible tonight.

  • linspiredinla

    Practiced shooting today also orior to Toronto gm.

  • sws94

    Lakers played only a few minutes of decent basketball. The Sixers less. That was just painful to watch.

  • Acbc

    No matter how good the coaching or system, the players must make some points. Both ish and cannon couldn’t hit the side of a barn tonight. They both took the most shots and had both had less than 10 point each.

    Didn’t help that Kobe was there to brick as well.

  • Hope

    They lack a leader who can lead. organized teamball. They have many young talents who can really run with lin.

  • CJSHYY

    I only watched few min of the game from 1Q but really not impress w Ish at all. Both teams were bad …. from box score, Ish didn’t do well.

  • cdblue10

    With healthy Embiid and Okafor next year plus good veterans,76’ers will be a team to beat esp if Lin is running the point.

  • Ben Johnson

    Ish is garbage, I’d rather have McConnell back up Jeremy next year 😀

  • sws94

    Kobe wasn’t there you mean?

  • Acbc

    He was much worst than Walker and that says a lot.

  • sws94

    Well, they are raw and young guys take time to develop. Lin, at age 27, 28 going into next season is more advanced in his understanding and execution of the game and with like players, is in a better position to be a piece of a playoff team that perhaps go into round 2 or beyond.

  • sws94

    He can play better. But he’s not as good as the first few games with Philadelphia once teams make adjustments to him.

  • tom

    if they sign Beal, Lin wont play more than 15mins a game

  • tom

    Thankfully

  • your son’s voltaire

    they won cus kobe sat out

  • tom

    That was some ugly basketball

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    If they sign Beal, it guarantees Lin will play 25 minutes minimum because Beal STINKS and would need Lin to protect him just like how Lin protects Kemba Walker.

  • sws94

    I like Kemba’s guts. And he has the ability to take a team on his back and be clutch. But he’s just not that mature a player. Batum isn’t the game-winning type. He can look great with some plays but he doesn’t have that internal force to go hard and be that winning player. Frank has potential. Lamb is what he seems to be so far. He’s young so maybe he’ll get better. Cody isn’t the most talented, but I like his effort and force. I kind of like Cody. Marv is OK with me. He puts effort out there and his shots fall or not, but he’s a good effort guy and feels like a smart veteran out there.

    Lin and Kemba could win together if Lin could get Kemba to work with him. Can he? Kemba may be too much a -I carry the team guy with me creating for me- guy to reach the potential he could have with Lin. It’s not that Kemba is a bad guy at all. It’s just that’s his way, and he’s strongly in that way.

  • occupatio

    3 assists in 36 minutes as the team’s leading ball handler is not ‘putting the team on his back.’ it is simply trying to do it by himself, and failing. he has guts, to be sure. that doesnt mean he’s effective. he’s a gutsy but stupid player.

  • KHuang

    Huh?

    Didn’t Lin WHUP this Toronto team in that 35 point special?

  • sws94

    Lin’s had those types of stats too. KW has had stats where he got assists and played the same ways. Assists aren’t always the tell-tale sign. With Batum hobbled and just the type of player Batum is, Kemba hasn’t figured out how to get shots for Frank, a weapon, Lamb, a weapon in the right spots (here’s where Lin is so missed), and Cody. He gets shots for Kemba and that takes other guys out of the game. But Kemba can win some games as well. He needs to find the balance of involving and being the guy to make buckets, him trying to make buckets is way out of proportion to involving others.

  • cdblue10

    Hornets problem can’t be fix because their PG is their SG and their SF is their playmaker and both of them has subpar defense and playmaking ability

  • KHuang

    I think it’s GUTLESS of Kemba Walker to deliberately refuse to adhere to Coach Clifford’s gameplan.

    A real winner would try to play teamball the way his coach envisions.

  • tom

    They will try to stat pad Kemba Beal AND batum and thers only 1 ball

  • occupatio

    lin never had those kind of stats WHEN he got the opportunity to be the lead ball handler, and do it for 30+ minutes a game. youre talking nonsense.

  • sws94

    I’m not talking nonsense at all. He’s had games where he was the lead ball handler and had those minutes with 2 or 3 assists. That happens sometimes, guys may not make shots you pass it to or they get fouled.

  • occupatio

    utter rubbish.

  • KHuang

    The defense by Walker has reached James Harden lows.

    He doesn’t even try to contest shots anymore, and he’s being ATTACKED because other teams know that they can get secondary big man scoring off Walker.

    Lin’s sole importance in the minds of the Charlotte coaches is that Lin’s help defense helps protect Walker’s teammates after Walker gets broken down off the dribble.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    Hornets with Lin could barely beat the Sixers.

  • sws94

    But he has guts to try to hustle and do what he can to win games. It’s just mostly too often shooting or pounding the ball around. Batum just kind of fades.

  • KHuang

    Such a group would need Lin MORE, not less.

  • Hope

    Maybe this is a good bet for jlin foundation. With Lin joining the 76ers next year, under/over .500 the first 20 games for $10.

  • sws94

    Why are you arguing with me? He has. I remember games like that in Houston. Anyway, I’m agreeing with you for the most part about Kemba’s shortcomings. But, I think Lin and Kemba are the two guys that have enough in them to get the Hornets over the hump. If Kemba is reeled in.

  • tom

    They are all role players none of them are max players but the Hornets have a lot of good role players so they have to stick to teamball because none of them are good enough to take over the game by themselves. They have no superstars.
    Kemba and Batum wont be the best or 2nd best player on any other teams that are trying to win none of the Hornets players will except maybe Kaminski in a few years and Al jeff a couple of years back. Thats just how I see it

  • sws94

    I agree. No max players. Nic may get max, but he’s not max.

  • sws94

    They went on a 4Q run and almost lost the game at the end if that TO wasn’t called.

  • KHuang

    If you want to see it that way, go ahead.

    But I think it’d GUTLESS for a single selfish loser to place his individual needs above that of the team.

    To me, that is ULTIMATE WEAKNESS.

  • tom

    Its not soleyly up to the PGs to get high assists if your teammates aint making shots you aint getting assists
    Even CP3 and Rondo have had those games LOL

  • KHuang

    In today’s NBA, there is NOT A SINGLE PLAYER who can take over a game singlehandedly and beat opponents all by himself.

    This is not the 80s where a single player can beat 5 guys due to the illegal defense rule that was mercifully abolished.

  • sws94

    He doesn’t always lose. Sometimes Kemba’s effort contribute big to wins. The 35 point game against Toronto isn’t won without Kemba’s play. That Kings game where Lin goes off in OT isn’t possible without Kemba’s 4Q play. Kemba has had some borderline spectacular scoring 4th quarters. That shows guts to push the ball and take big shots like he does. But it is also his main problem as well. It’s his only way.

  • cdblue10

    In just 2 games,Kemba and Batum was exposed as a role players,nothing is so special on these 2.If Hornets wants to reach the playoff Cliff needs to make Kemba as a 6th man and Batum as SF.Let Lin and Lamb,Batum,Zeller and Kaminsky starts and alternate Kemba and Lin to lead the 2nd unit.

  • KHuang

    I don’t know what games you were watching, but Lin wasn’t a point guard in Houston.

    He was a low usage off the ball shooting guard for two seasons.

  • sws94

    Not by himself, but be the force that takes on the team and makes the big buckets or plays down the stretch. I think sometimes Lin has done that. Guys like LeBron, Curry, do this.

  • Acbc

    No Clifford is much much better. Even tonight, Clifford said some very positive things about Lin before the game. BS and Mchale never said anything good about Lin and went out of their way to spread lies about him.

    If MDA was coaching again, I’d be okay with him staying with hornets becuase there’s not many teams without political agendas. As much as hate the politics with Clifford and FO, they at least always say good things about Lin. They give him playtime and even though it is as 9th option, he has started to make a name for himself as a defensive force.

    Clifford is a defensive assistant that has no skills for offence. He has no clue about making adjustments and keep hoping against hope that his players will magically beat their own man and make a play. He has no concept of player development and how to set timeline goals with plotted steps in game situations. Cliffrod runs a motion offence but keeps getting the same ISO garbage and he has no clue how to change it. He keeps trying to force square pegs into round holes. They’d be better off running a triangle offence to dumb it down for kW and Batum. Split the court in half and let them play a 3 man game or even a 2 man game. They aren’t using the weak side anyways. The only one running good motion is Lin but they don’t even bother passing it to him anyways.

  • occupatio

    youre talking as if kemba was repeatedly setting up teammates deftly, but they were missing shots despite the opportunities kemba created. was that the case tonight? nope. it rarely is.

    we really talking stats or the substance behind the stats? no need to reply, you just talking the same gibberish.

    tonight, when kemba was doubled he passed too late out of the double team. u see CP3 or Rondo repeatedly make that mistake? nope.

    but stick to your stat watching. no need to talk about anything substance.

  • Lin Win

    Please tell me you’re trolling.
    MJ couldn’t even take a good wizards team to the playoffs in the weak east.

  • KHuang

    If you look at Kemba Walker’s HISTORY, he’s only had one barely winning season.

    He is a CAREER LOSER who is known for breaking the offense with his selfish no defense play.

    You are trying to convince us Lin fans that Walker is some sort of great player and Lin’s some inferior understudy that must meekly kowtow to Walker’s superior ability. THAT WON’T WORK on the veteran NBA fans like myself that have been watching for too mnay years.

  • tom

    That’s true but there are superstars like LBJ, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Blake Griffin, Khawi Leonard, P George who can carry a big load

  • sws94

    No I’m not. I don’t know where this hostility comes from because my views are only slightly different from yours.

    I said he didn’t set up his team mates and only creates for himself. I’m not going to look at Kemba like you see him. But you aren’t accurately reflecting my opinion on Kemba at all. And I’m not stat watching. I’m watching Kemba’s energy more than anything else compared to others and he and Lin are the two, in my opinion, that have winning energy when both of them are on their games, in crunch time of games.

    I did not praise Kemba AT ALL in my assessment of him. I was critical of him.

  • DX

    Never going to happen.

  • sws94

    When Harden was out he was. And in a few designated games when Harden had to sit in foul trouble or whatever. It’s not that important. A player can get low assists because of what PFV calls “blown assists” or hockey assists or good looks leading to fouls.

  • occupatio

    above comment was for tom. as for you, we have little in common to discuss.

  • KHuang

    Not a single one of those players can take over games as a one man team.

    Every one of those guys is playing on a stacked team with more than one “superstar”.

    So no, I don’t buy the notion that a single guy can’t beat 5 even though I agree with your premise that Charlotte doesn’t have a single superstar worldbeater including Lin.

  • cdblue10

    And they will never reach the playoff,as long as Cliff will let Kemba and Batum lead this team forget about this year because they won’t make the playoff.

  • sws94

    I think we have a lot in common actually. I’m not anti-Kemba. I’d take Kemba over Harden or Kobe any day. And Anthony as well. But I have criticisms of him as I do most NBA players. And see the good qualities with the not-so-good in my opinion.

  • KHuang

    Like I said, I don’t know what games you were watching in Houston.

    In those games, Lin was STILL low usage because McHale steadfastly refused to play through him.

  • Lin Win

    You’re dreaming. Clifford is trying to setup fixed roles for each player in the team. Lin was brought in to the a spark off the bench and that’s it. They aren’t alienating their franchise boy who still has a contract over a 1 year player who could leave.

  • tom

    Are you unstable or you just can’t read? did I ever say Kemba was trying to set teammates up?
    I never said Kemba was like CP3 or Rondo
    You said Lin never had low assist games LOL I was telling you even the greatest PGs have low assist games you must be so delusional
    You are the one talking rubbish now

  • tom

    I’m not saying they can beat a team by themsleves but they are superstars who can do special things

  • tom

    Lamb cant start

  • KHuang

    Role players can be winners.

    Selfish ego defensiveless hero ball losers usually cannot win unless they’re Kobe Bryant playing on stacked Lakers teams that are stronger without him than with him.

    I’ll sorta let Batum off the hook because he does demonstrate some teamball tendencies. But Walker? NO, because he breaks the gameplan on both ends of the court in order to pad his stats. Walker literally doesn’t care if the team loses.

  • sws94

    And that’s because assists aren’t always the telling factor. Guys have to make shots when you throw them the ball to get them. Leading to fouls and points through fouls is the same thing if the guy is a good foul shooter. And if perimeter guys are knocking down their shots all it takes is a not so great pass to them to get an assist.

  • KHuang

    If Lin started, Lamb would not only be good enough to start but would be a fine defensive player.

    But you are right in that if Lamb started with Walker, Lamb could not protect Walker like Lin can.

  • DX

    Maybe, anyway they haven’t maken for long time.

  • cdblue10

    How’d you know?yeah his defense is poor but he has an above average offensive games.

  • sws94

    I know this. My point was if you combine the best of Lin and Kemba, these two guys have the makeup to win games for you. Not Kemba alone, who doesn’t know how to win on a consistent basis because of his create shots for me way about him.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    Lin can do those things too, and that’s why the Hornets need him.

  • cdblue10

    That’s why if they want to be a contender make Kemba as a 6th man.

  • tom

    Even the greatest PGs will have low assist games here and there to say the otherwise is just pure stupidity and ignorance beyond saving

  • sws94

    How can Lamb be a fine defensive player? He’s lost out there now on defense. It’s not Lin’s job to position him at all times.

  • KHuang

    Now THAT is something I agree with.

    Kemba Walker has more than proven that when he CHOOSES to play teamball, he can do so brilliantly in a way that makes everybody and himself look terrific.

    But the hard truth of Walker is that he’s UNWILLING to play teamball over the years – and that will never change.

  • sws94

    But that’s the point all along. Lin and Kemba combining forces. We see what happens with Kembaball. It’s usually a loss.

  • KHuang

    Your boy Kemba Walker is SO BAD defensively, it throws the entire Hornets team out of whack.

    But when Lin’s PG, Lin shuts down the opposing PG in a way that prevents teamwide defensive breakdowns that affect Lamb negatively.

    Walker STINKS defensively. He’s James Harden bad.

  • cdblue10

    It’s just a basketball knowledge and I’m not dreaming,I know Hornets will not do that since the coach will let the politics play.

  • tom

    Current rotation is fine
    Just stagger Lins and Kembas mins let Lin run points

  • Lin Win

    You think Lin to the 76ers means playoffs? Are you kidding me?

    We are struggling to make the playoffs with the Hornets and all our players are better than the 76ers except Okafor.
    What a joke to even suggest that.

    The only person that could even stand a chance to take the 76ers to the playoffs might be Lebron James and Lin is no where even close to Lebron.

    Lin to 76ers = No rings
    Rings > Stats

    The harsh truth is that Lin hasn’t proven to anyone he could carry the load of the team on his back on a night to night basis after the 2 weeks in NYK(Not saying Kemba or Batum can). We can whine and complain like we did for 3 years saying no chance was given to him but but Lin doesn’t even take the initiative to take charge.

    Too many times have I seen Lin just pass up the shot instead of just taking it like what Lamb and Batum does all the time. Screw the open shots when you have shooters like Frank/Zeller/Hawes missing wide open 3pointers.

    Look at the stats:
    We are dead last ! 26.4% 3FG% from Drive and Kick. That’s where Lin’s assist are going down the drain.

  • Lin Win

    It’s not even politics. It’s about management and Hornets are correct into doing that.
    Lin and Batum are 1 year deals and Lin has a higher chance of leaving the team. They aren’t going to risk 2 or more seasons with Kemba over Lin.

  • sws94

    Lamb’s defense still isn’t good though. And Kemba’s is better than Lamb. He just quits too much. But he’s not as lost on defense, just not giving the proper effort.

  • cdblue10

    I didn’t say that Lamb has a good defense at all but with a good defensive PG like LIn,he can actually tell him where to position himself where to defend.

  • DX

    Hope Lin keep out for tomorrow’s game. It will be mostly a loss even Lin play. Without Lin, probably blow out.

  • sws94

    He can and does. Doesn’t mean that Lamb won’t get burned due to not reading and positioning himself correctly once the offense goes into their sets. Lin has to see to himself and others on the court as well. Would need help from coach and guys like Marvin on the team to position Lamb.

  • Briiick

    I don’t think the 6th man’s role is attractive to Lin if he has other options (Hornets know it too). They could be abandoning their order of preference, trying to sign either Lin or Batum to the starting combo guard position in the off season.

  • cdblue10

    Whatever you want to think then go ahead since you know their team better.

  • CJSHYY

    I think if he’s not 100% health then it’s best not to play then….

  • Acbc

    So true, in today’s open game with so much blitzing double teams to force out ISO, there’s just no place left for hero ball. The fact that Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 pts is because of the no zone rule. It’s a very rare occurrence now for players to score over 50pts.

    Lebron lost in 2 straight finals because he couldn’t carry his team on his back. In fact they single covered him to tire him out and covered his teammates instead. Then they put waves of players on to build up the score.

    Good teams now must run multiple screens to free up players for good looks. The problem is that hornets don’t use even one screen for Lin to help him free up his man and force defence to react to him. That’s why high PNR is such a great play. But it needs someone with speed and quickness of mind and body to take advantage of the mismatch.

  • TTNN

    he looks limping and walk very slow, I hope he don’t play tomorrow.

  • occupatio

    u saw him walk between court and locker room tonight? or you talking about how he looks in practice?

  • CJSHYY

    If so don’t think he will play…. he can’t run on court how can he plays?

  • Spot

    100% agree. Kemba’s been ballhog whole of his carreer with an entire organization behind without proving anything to anyone.

    He just chucks shots after shots and sometime he get 20 points.

    Let the Hornets sink with him.

  • TTNN

    when playing with Lin, Lamb’s defensive rating is 94.1, and without Lin, Lamb’s defensive rating is 101.8.

    Lin really helped Lamb on defense by communication, help defense, and help to position him on the court. Kemba don’t do that. Lin/Lamb switch a lot, Lin help on Lamb’s guy a lot too.

  • occupatio

    a team is more than the sum of its parts. just comparing the individual players on the hornets versus the sixers does not mean much, especially since the talent disparity between the rosters is not big. given the proper role on the sixers, lin’s team would certainly outperform the hornets as they currently are.

  • Spot

    Lin can turn around Sixers since day one.

    Noel is bread and butter with pnr. A good defender too. Jerami Grant could be the next Shawn Marion. The rest are all role players with decent defense and 3 point shooting.

    Novak Shumpert Fields Jeffries Asik and so on were far worse than Sixers players.

    All Sixers have to do is to get rid of Okafor, a giant kid who only thinks about playing in post and getting his own stats.

  • TTNN

    yeah, in the first half, saw him pounding the ball for good 10+ sec and trying to look for his own shots, and then pass the ball to Marvin when there is 3 sec left, really hated that play.

    The other thing I noticed and I really don’t like with Kemba is, when he is double teamed or when he don’t have a good opportunity, he pass the ball out only to ask it back right away, so his pass is not trying to set his teammates up, rather trying to set himself up. That’s why he had way higher passes percentage than traditional ball hog like Kobe or Young, but he is still a ball hog. If you look at his potential assist/passes, that’s extremely low.

  • occupatio

    yep, i saw this as well. when kemba is double teamed, the ball still stays on his side of the court most of the time. even when he does pass it towards the middle, he does it too late, when the defense is settled.

  • Spot

    He always tries to overcome double team with his overrated crossover.

  • Acbc

    The system is set up for PGs to initiate offence. Both ish and cannon took more than 25 shots and made nearly nothing. If Lin had been pg, they’d would have won in a laugher. Lin would have been able to set up easier scores for his teammates as well. MJ, not so much.

  • bolero
  • bolero

    They interviewed him by csnphilly at the LA vs Sixers game..

  • Acbc

    Whatever, kW and Batum were horrible and not able to clutch when needed. At least MDA is 500 so far with a young team and bad shooting PGs. How do explain KW’s bad shooting tonight? It’s okay to give Clifford a pass with “team needs more time to gel”. Yeah thankfully others don’t see the situation like you 2. Lol

  • Lin Win

    Just being able to see Hornet’s record and 76ers record shows which team is far superior. The only player to turn a franchise around and win a ring was Larry Bird. I think it was from 20wins to 60 wins. Are you saying Lin is close to Larry Bird?

    By the way Okafor will be leaving the 76ers asap. 76ers have no market value! No above average player would waste their career on that team even if they have Lin who no one cares. You think Lin can single handedly win a ring ? Allen Iverson couldn’t do it.

  • Lin Win

    Please! We also said Al and Frank would be amazing with Lin but guess what?
    Don’t blame Okafor! He’s padding stats so he can have a good contract when he ditches the 76ers.
    76ers has no market value! No above average player would waste their career on that team even if they have Lin who no one cares.

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  • Nice! So Ish Smith is not the long-term answer?

    I have no doubt MDA will lobby JLin in the off-season but MDA can also be a Head Coach somewhere else other than Philly next season. It will be interesting indeed!

  • Peter Truong From Riverside CA

    Sound like that are waiting for Jlin. We will see.

  • CJSHYY

    They will try to get on next summer….Lin?

  • Spot

    Okafor is a selfish kid with no defence.

    Frank could be great with Jeremy, Al is selfish too with his ISO post plays.

    Lin can run both MDA and Brown’s plays with ease. If given the opportunity.

  • Spot

    Oleeeee!!!!

  • rookie75094

    If you think no one cares about Jlin you are grossly mistaken

  • Ouch, I see Ish Smith with 3-19 shooting to finish with 9pts/3asts

  • TTNN

    exactly, he don’t swing the ball to the other side, and he get the ball back right away by play a 2 man game, the rest 3 players just sit and watch.

  • Lin Win

    Anyone that knows Lin knows Lin doesn’t take more than 11shots on a regular basis let alone 20+ shots.

    I love your optimism but let me bring you back down to reality.

    Larry Bird : Only player to turn a franchise around and win a ring during his rookie or sophomore year . 20wins to a 60 win team.

    Allen Iverson: Only player to take the 76ers to the finals by himself but couldn’t win a ring.

    What is the point joining the 76ers when there’s no chance of winning rings. You guys only care about Lin getting stats and bragging rights but at the end of the day rings matter.

    I laugh at you saying that MJ couldn’t set up easy buckets for Lin. I can bet you MJ’s final 2 seasons would be better than Lin’s final 2 seasons.

  • Lin Win

    When you watch more basketball you will know how trades are done.

  • TTNN

    a little glimpse during the game, during time out…..

  • Spot

    At first Sixers have to fix their own mess:

    2 GMs and 2 coaches is a crowd, not a staff.

    Hopefully Colangelo and MDA will be the winners.

  • Lin Win

    If teams do then where did Lin’s fat contract go?

  • Lin Win

    I don’t blame Okafor being selfish! He’s the best player on the team. His whole team is trash. His goal for the next few years and pad stats and get out.

  • rookie75094

    It’s so obvious they will be the gm and coach next year

  • rookie75094

    Jlin turned down the fat contracts to play for the hornets. …where gave you been?

  • Acbc

    MDA will stay if colegiano is GM or head if basketball operations. There’s no telling with other teams if they will push politics above his coaching. They have a history and trust. That’s worth a lot more than being sole head coach. It’s pretty much like us and Lin with MDA. We trust him to give Lin a fair shake. MDA has the trust of his GM. That’s why Sixers are so right for Lin. Young talents, good no nonsense management, players and fan base desperate for a winning season. Lin can definately make it happen.

  • Lin Win

    What fat contract? 10million a year?
    All talks but no offer?
    GSW paying 10mill a year?
    Bulls paying 10mill a year?
    Dallas paying 10mill a year?
    Lakers paying 10mill a year?
    Nuggets paying 10mill a year?

    Only team that seems reasonable is 76ers. We all know why Lin didn’t go there !

  • tom

    Iverson definitely one of the best players to ever play the game(biased, i know), Iso’s his way to NBA finals

  • rookie75094

    Oh…he will go there next year…if MDA is the coach there.

  • tom

    Okafor has no team to play for LOL

  • Acbc

    That’s what I’m saying both ish and cannon couldn’t hit the side of a barn tonight. They both took so many shots but was so bad that even Marshall would have been an upgrade.

  • rookie75094

    You forgot memphis…lol

  • Spot

    Hope and pray you’re right. Brandon Ingram would be their ideal fit in the draft.

  • Lin Win

    haha you know they just resign their head coach right? You know how the NBA works?

  • rookie75094

    Is there a no fire clause in that contract?…if not…then that extension is browns separation package.

  • Let’s hope MDA would win enough games to have more HC options.
    I’m not totally sold on the Associate Coach plus reversing the 76ers losing culture quickly. I’d rather have Lin play for MDA as a Head Coach somewhere else but not sure NBA teams is ready to name MDA HC again

  • yes, I agree. They need to sort out the org structure first.
    If not somewhere else

  • let’s hope not. If Lin’s not sure, I don’t think he’ll play.
    He knows this year is super-important for him.
    Another loss will also solidify his important role in the team.

  • tom

    LOL did say any of those things?
    MDA is just an associate coach .500 will not be fully credited to him and what does batum and kemba being bad have anything to do with this? Did I give Clifford a pass? Do you ever make sense? LOL maybe thats where you should start lol

  • tom

    LOL MJ had 10+assist games when he had to play PG and he always tried to get teammates going to start the game you really dont watch ball LOL Lin is good at it but MJ was great at it too

  • Yascar

    What do you mean? Kobe didn’t play tonight.

  • Spot

    I’m good with Sixers IF D’Antoni is there.

    The other possibility could be Clippers if Paul and Rivers leave.

  • occupatio

    I watched most of the sixers game. it was embarrassing for ish and canaan, cuz the 3rd string PG mccowell outplayed both of them. also, without a doubt, the scrappy mccowell is the best defender amongst those 3 PGs.

    ish, aside from pushing the pace well, i dont see him having any above average skill in any area. one thing that jumped out at me is he can’t go left. when he does dribble to the left, he either crosses back, or spins, to the right, or pulls up for a midrange jumper instead of going all the way.

    canaan, im surprised he seems to have made no improvement since his houston days. he was throwing desperate and inaccurate lobs to nowhere during his PnR. he’s still slow, and he turned the ball over twice just by misdribbling. his jumper is so bad that its obvious the shot won’t go in even upon release.

    overall, the team moves the ball well, but they have no one like lin who can consistently put pressure on the defense. it seems no one has a reliable jumper. but the bigs do set competent screens.
    im not sure they keep anyone on the team next year besides okafar/noel, and covington. its likely that the roster will be so different next year that it will be unrecognizable compared to this season.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Interview: Jeremy Lin reflects on 2015 and talks future
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-01/02/c_134971677.htm

    TORONTO, Jan. 1 (Xinhua) — During Charlotte Bobcats’ 104-94 loss against Toronto Raptors on Friday, guard Jeremy Lin was on the end of the bench sporting a two-piece tuxedo and glasses.

    The 27-year-old Lin was forced to miss his second consecutive game due to a right ankle sprain.

    Following the game, Lin took time to speak to Xinhua about the events that took place in the past year.

    “I think I grew a lot as a person, I learned a lot about myself,” said Lin. “I took steps in terms of slowing down and appreciating life instead of being so fixated on what I wanted to accomplish.”

    In 2015, Lin was part of a rebuilding Los Angeles Lakers team where he lost his starting role midway into the season in favor of developing younger players. After earning back his role, Lin was shortly forced to miss the remainder of the season with an upper respiratory infection.

    “It was a tough year and I learned a lot. I can look back and be thankful for all the experiences.”

    In the offseason, Lin became an unrestricted free agent for the first time in his career and was in full control of the next chapter in his career.

    “When the free agency time came around, we had done a lot of homework and research before that to see what the potential best fits were,” said Lin.

    After playing in large markets his entire career in Golden State, New York, Houston and Los Angeles, Lin chose an atmosphere that was conducive to his development. On July 9, 2015, he agreed to a 4.4-million-U.S.-dollar, two-year contract with the Hornets.

    “Of all the final options, I felt very confident in Charlotte, I’m just happy to be here.”

    The six-year veteran is embracing his backup role and is a key member of the 5th best bench in the league. Lin’s 11.1 points per game average ranks second in the Eastern Conference among qualified players, trailing teammate Jeremy Lamb’s 11.3 points per game.

    Lin’s mentality is about living in the moment and enjoying life.

    “I’m just taking it one day at a time, that’s just a part of me. Trying to enjoy each day,” said Lin, who did not think too much into the future.

    The most notable example is his spiky hairstyle that has drawn attention from fans all over the world.

    “I’m just having fun with it. A lot of my friends and family have requested that I do something in a certain city or in a certain game,” said Lin.

    Rather than putting pressure of himself to replicate the success from near four years ago during the Linsanity period, Lin has found a cozy atmosphere in Charlotte and hopes he can continue to grow as a player and person.

    “I’m going to keep work at some of the things I want to get better at and enjoy every day for what it’s worth.”

  • Yascar

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nba/la-sp-philadelphia-76ers-elliott-20160101-column.html

    Interesting article and interview with Colangelo. Good insight on what he plans to do with the Sixers. Ish does look like some sort of stop gap.

    Still not convinced on Sixers for Jeremy. They’d have to convince him that they can build a winning team in such a short time. He can’t do it by himself and it was disheartening seeing them play today.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • kauaiblue

    Wow, nice analysis… ill keep my conclusion until i see more then… but you know how weve been burned bf by these idiotic teams…

  • kauaiblue

    He has proven he can carry the load? How long have u been watching this man play? Weve seen time and again where he has totally taken over the game. There is nothing to suggest he cant!

  • kauaiblue

    Guts? He like a prince who is given freedom from the king to do whatever he wants…

  • kauaiblue

    You go boy… walker is no jlin… walker is a vinnie johnson type 6th man at best…

  • adele

    Sad but true.

  • adele

    Right to the mark.

  • adele

    In other words, they cant win against playoff teams without Lin as their decoy and helper.

  • adele

    Good to know

  • Guest

    Jeremy Is the superstar of the Hornets if he’s allowed to run point.

  • Guest

    Out of the names you alluded, only LBJ and Khawi Leonard have won rings. If these players were superstars and could carry a big load like you claim, then their teams would have won many rings. So no, they are not superstar eventhough they have been given superstar treatments.

  • Acbc

    By the way Colangelo and MDA turned around the Suns to a 60+ win season once they got Nash back from Dallas, a difference of 41 games. Lol. That was MDA’s second season as a head coach and Nash became league MVP twice right after that.

    Every point you make against Sixers is moot because look at how badly hornets are playing without Lin! So your pinning hopes on Hornets because of their record? They were below 500 club and will be again when Lin leaves. I’d much rather Lin struggle with MDA somewhere and be the leader with ball in hand than playing 9th fiddle and doing all the heavy lifting to promote others.

    AI was a selfish player and stat padder. How could he ever carry a team. He was a detriment to a team becuase he never played as a team player.

    It’s been a long time but you probably never heard of Dr J aka Julius Erving those were glory days of Philli not AI.

  • Guest

    This is what they call cross selling by inept management for promoting substandard core products that can’t create demand but the less-focused products are actually very much sought after by consumers.

  • sws94

    He’s not looking at the end of season, he’s dealing with the now. That’s why I’m not into end of season or next season stuff because I don’t think he is. Good to hear he’s happy where he chose to be.

  • sws94

    It says a PG. Not which PG. A PG. That doesn’t mean Lin. It doesn’t not mean Lin, or Lin either.

  • Guest

    The Hornets FO have their heads buried in the sand if they don’t see that JLin is the most impactful player on the team.
    Maybe they are happy to push Batum and Kemba to be All-Stars next season. That probably is their biggest lifetime achievement.

  • cdblue10

    You post like you know everything!!!LOL

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You’re a hopeless lin hater.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin is the best point guard in the team.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    A smart husband would never tell his wife she’s fat.

  • Martin Chong

    Typo. In the “league”

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Among the best.

  • grover chang

    I don’t know why they don’t allow Lin play pg anymore but Clifford and the hornets better stop messing around. They are in 10th place, fallen from 2nd place when Lin controlled the offense more. The season is 40% done. There is time, but winning needs to be the priority above individual goals if playoffs are their target.

  • cdblue10

    When he was traded to Lakers,he said that he was very happy too ,same thing with Houston,and I’m pretty sure after Hornets he will say the same when he got his new team.

  • cdblue10

    How can he ditched 76’ers they have the bird rights for him.

  • Acbc

    Most of us would never understand what it takes to be an elite athlete. The dedication, hard work to practice and practice, weight room and cardio. We wouldn’t last a day. We think it’s some mythical power or maybe they seek fame, money and adulation. To Lin, that’s the least of it and I suspect most if not all NBA players trying to make it to the NBA would say the same thing. They just love to play the game. What appears to be hard work is more an obsession to be the best. The ones that are the greatest are the ones that loves to work the most.

    So what separates the top from the next level down. They have a goal, a dream and a belief in who they want to be. These great players define themselves by incremental growth and process. There’s been talk about how the Sixers are trash and that they are a bunch of losers. It’s lazy to just look at stats and draw conclusions. These players were all winners before being drafted by a loser organization. They force these kids to lose and and just as it is in LA, the kids have spoken out about the FO and coaching. A young player’s career isn’t defined by just what they’ve done, what they are doing now but by who or what they want to become. Okafor is young and talented but he needs guidance and real coaching. Lin turned Howard into a pretty good PNR partner. He can certainly help Okafor to learn to play an easy game of PNR to pad his stats.

    What goals do you and I have? Find a good college, meet a beautiful wife, get marry, get a great job, get promoted, make lots of money, buy a fancy car, live in a big house and retire early. To me that’s not dreaming, it’s accepting what the world has to offer you and getting as much out of that as possible.

    There’s a lot of NBA players like that, they’ve stop growing, they’ve stop dreaming. It’s now a job. I’ve seen it over and over again as a tennis coach. Players get to a stage when they aren’t willing to risk making changes to a game that has served them well to get to the big stage. They start protecting there place in the pecking order instead of pushing beyond what they are today. Lin’s not wired like that. He’s a lot like Kobe than you think in that they both love to practice. Lin has a vision and he will never accept playing the game as a means to a pay check. That’s what really separates Lin from other NBA players and us.

    Lin has had more peaks and valleys than most NBA players. Those peaks often coincide with injuries to teammates and he’s allowed to become relevant. There’s a lot of people that want to define Lin as the one whose at the bottom of that bell curve. Mchale kept lowering that curve and ignore any highs of his games. Meanwhile John Walls struggles were considered growing pains. The bias against Lin to measure him at the bottom of his curve while Wall gets to be measured only at the top of the curve is totally unfair. MDA was and still is the only coach that believed in the peak of Lin’s bell curve. And Lin didn’t disappoint MDA. What’s really sad is that some Lin fans actually want to measure Lin at the bottom of the bell curve and chooses to ignore why Lin’s stats went down due to marginalization.

    Lin has always love Naruto. Naruto was a delinquent and everyone in the village hated and was feared him. Lin like Naruto never let other define who he was. They always focused on what they wanted to achieve. That’s the power of dreams. It’s easy to condemn others by one action, but over time, the process to repair and change people’s minds is why Naruto and Lin is so similar. As Shikamaru said of Naruto “he has a way of making you want to follow him”. Lin also has that way as well and he keeps making friends in the NBA everywhere he goes. That is Lin’s way of the ninja.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Exactly. Unless he really asked for a trade otherwise this is pretty standard answer when you are still in the team. I think he’s OK in the team but really happy about everything… not sure.. from his prayer’s request…” have been helpful verses for me to find and maintain joy, regardless of life’s circumstances.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Excellent. Excellent. Bravo. Bravo.

  • Acbc

    Guts is not scoring in the first 3 and fading like a wimp in the 4th. Mr 4th quarter Lin would have saved the game…that’s guts.

  • sws94

    There’s a huge difference between Lin in Charlotte and the Lakers at the same time last year. Those that want to read into Lin will do so. But I think it is more what they want than what Lin wants which really is unknown.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    It’s now noon in Charlotte but still no Lin injury update for game tonight. They must be trying hard to get him available.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope not…..

  • donsmacau

    Same can be said of your own personal interpretation.

    JLIN has said nothing and he plays for the Hornets now; NOBODY has any idea what JLIN and his Agent are doing behind the scenes right now. He has shown thru his career he says to the media the standard tripe that team players say, never will he confirm or deny a thing.

    You’re opnion is as good or bad as anyone elses. This is a fan site.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    As much as I missed watching him playing, I hope he won’t force it unless 100% feel good.

  • DX

    Maybe, even play 20 minutes will make game different.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    10 in the 2Q and 10 in the 4q. They lost last night because of no mr. 4q.

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way, if he’s not 100% then it’s not good for him to be on court.

  • DX

    That’s obvious. Hope not only Hornets but other teams see Lin’s value too.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That’s our sacrificing part as lin fans? Lol

  • Acbc

    I really take offence to your attack on a lady. It was totally uncalled for. I don’t mind your personal attacks. Bring it on but don’t go being flippant with the ladies again.

  • Acbc

    Guts is not scoring in the first 3 and fading like a wimp in the 4th. Mr 4th quarter Lin would have saved the game…that’s guts.

  • cdblue10

    I’m pretty sure about myself that I played and watch basketball since I was 12 years old.So I think I know enough.How about you?

  • sws94

    FWIW, when Lin was in Houston and they played Portland, Batum would have some real big games against the Rockets and some regular ones. I noticed his defense and scoring and have to say that I didn’t notice his passing so much that he’s displayed on Charlotte (not without issues however, he’s TO prone). Looking at him in Charlotte I also don’t find his defense to be as strong as advertised or as I perceived it playing against him.

    In my opinion, Lin has outplayed Kemba head-to-head in the contests I remember. Watching Kemba everyday, he has more “will” in his game than previously thought. I think he isn’t a good creator for others more in his approach than abilities. But he can get his own shot well, and is something of a volume scorer who had a long hot streak earlier in the season. His defensive approach is inconsistent in my opinion as well ( I think he’s a better defender than most on this board, however).

    Kemba is the established PG with the handles to keep him such. His numbers for the year in points and assists are good. We know how he gets them, but they are good. Lin doesn’t want to usurp Kemba from what he’s said. Lin in his position is a powerful player, one of the top 5 on the team and not so much arguably the top 3. Should he play more PG? Absolutely. Should the 2nd unit with Lin at the helm stay more intact while Kemba sits? Absolutely. But Kemba is not a 6th man. He’s a high-minute, high-usage, ball-dominant, shoot-first, create for himself PG. And the league is full of these types. I think of the two, Kemba and Lin, Lin has more versatility to become a valuable 6th man and I think 6th man is just as important as any starter which again, most people don’t seem to agree with me on that point. That said I don’t ONLY think Lin is a 6th man. I do think he is on most NBA teams, but a STARTER in some systems. Not so much in Charlotte, however.

  • sws94

    Kemba has scored more i 4Qs than Lin has. He’s scored over 20 at least in 1 game and has had a lot of games where he was Mr 4Q. Lin is Mr 4Q but hasn’t been that much as a Hornet. It’s not true that Kemba fades in most 4Q games, he actually tends to take a lot of shots and makes some. And, unlike Lin, who absolutely has a tendency at times to pass off or turn down shots, Kemba doesn’t. Call it guts, will or whatever you want, he’s willing to make or miss big shots.

  • tom

    Hopefully

  • occupatio

    based on article, to put it succinctly, the only assets of value they have are big men, who need a pass-first PG in order to develop. thats why ish is there.

    that article gives further confirmation to my thinking that the roster will look radically different next year (not just getting free agents, but also bringing in veteran players), and secondly, that they arent tanking next year.

  • sws94

    They need him. I think Charlotte appreciates Lin more than we think and that includes coaches, his team mates and Hornets fans. The announcing crew notices him as well and are fair to him.

  • KHuang

    Ish Smith was the starting point guard a few months ago for this last place Sixers team.

    He didn’t suddenly transform into a big time winner overnight.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think starters were stinking it up so bad Cliff using Lin to shore up their defense to the detriment of the bench. Walker at PG with the bench is a waste. They do better with JLin as THE PG. He gets a little run at PG with bench at beginning of 2nd quarter but it’s so little time by the time he gets going Walker is coming back to close the 2nd.

  • KHuang

    Sorry, totally disagree as usual.

    I remain unmoved in my stance that Lin would take the current Philadelphia team in the offseason and singlehandedly lead them into the playoffs next season.

    The only caveat would be that Coach Brett Brown would not allow any single player to selfishly break the gameplan.

  • KHuang

    Al hasn’t spent much time with Lin this season.

    Kaminsky looks terrific with or without Lin.

    76ers would be TRANSFORMED by Lin on and off the court.

  • KHuang

    Ex Rockets tank man Sam Hinkie was running the 76ers this offseason.

    But ever since the Colangelo and Dantoni moves, Hinkie has lost power.

    I’m sure Lin will look hard at the 76ers this offseason.

  • tom

    what lady? Are you imagining things?

  • tom

    k.

  • KHuang

    You don’t know your history.

    It wasn’t just Bird that turned that season around.

    The whole team had a bunch of new players and returning young players who got more time.

    Bird was no one man team, then or later.

    This topic has been written about.

  • KHuang

    Nash wasn’t the only addition.

    Joe Johnson, Quentin Richardson, and some other key guys were all added at the same time.

    There’s no superstar that has transformed a team all by himself.

  • tom

    lol you obviously dont know ball at all
    John Stockton and Karl Malone never won a ring together
    Reggie miller, vince carter, T mac, Yao, AI, Ewing, barkly
    If they weren’t super stars enough for you.. then you are beyond saving
    thats pure stupidity and ignorance

  • KHuang

    I totally disagree.

    I’m a big Iverson hater because I didn’t think he was a team player.

    The record of Iverson’s teams reflect my statement.

  • KHuang

    Batum was facing off against nondefenders in Chandler Parsons and James Harden, so that’s not saying a lot about Batum’s wildly overrated ability.

  • tom

    Yah he’s definitely in a good situation but people will never be happy

  • KHuang

    The numbers do not support your bias in Walker’s favor.

  • KHuang

    Lin’s been doing it for so long, it’s getting old.

  • KHuang

    But it WON’T happen because Walker is not the winner you mistakenly believe he is.

  • rookie75094

    Saying they appreciate him is one thing…they need to show it through action like let him play pg and not standing in the corner waiting for scraps.

  • KHuang

    For a one year rental who likely will be GONE after this season, Lin is a guy who’s really valued for his ability to win games.

  • KHuang

    NO.

    People can be satisfied with Lin’s situation like I am but still strongly believe that he deserves to be paid better and coached better.

  • KHuang

    Disheartening?

    It would be disheartening to me as a Lin fan if the Sixers played well!

    I want Lin to be NEEDED by the Sixers so that they’ll sign him as either their starting SG or PG.

  • Spot

    100% agree

  • tom

    Everyone including non-Lin fans knows Lin deserves way more money but he chose Clifford who has no idea how to run an offence

  • sws94

    I want to like Lamb. He’s out of position a lot as a defender. He has poor defensive instincts. He has great length, but poor instincts. Kemba doesn’t get lost so much, he gets steals and blocks and deflections on a more consistent basis than does Lamb.

  • sws94

    With help he is. Not by himself. I’ve stated Kembaball is not winning ball so I don’t know why you’re interpreting it to mean winning ball. But Kemba can hit big shots. That’s been shown all season and I don’t see anything wrong with acknowledging that.

  • tom

    He still went to the nba finals one year
    he was still fun to watch
    theres a reason why he was so popular
    he was never a team player but doesnt mean he wasnt a great baller

  • sws94

    You know what, I missed your point re-reading it now. So, you may be right and it doesn’t happen. He’s used to playing his own way.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think the longer he’s out and the Hornet’s keep losing the more his value goes up.

  • new OKC game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g33-okc-cha-game-thread/

    Will JLin play? He was still seen limping in the TOR game so let’s hope he rests his ankle until he is 100%. He simply can’t afford to have lingering injury this season. Besides he won’t be able to help the Hornets much if he can’t run well.

    – In 2 games absence, Jeremy Lin’s missing impact on defense is truly felt. The Hornets gave up the season record 122 points in a loss followed by being outscored 30-12 in the 4th quarter against the Raptors. The Hornets has slipped further to #10 in Eastern Conference Standing so they can’t afford slipping further.

    – But OKC has 8W-2L record in the last 10 so it will be very difficult opponent to beat tonight

    Let’s go, Hornets!

  • Acbc

    That’s true but Colangelo did draft Stat and assembled a good mix of players. Sixers have a stable of wild stallions but don’t have any riders or trainers. I expect that they will add the pieces and trade some assets to build a team that could win the east.

  • Yascar

    To be fair, at this point last season, Jeremy had stopped saying he was happy with the Lakers. He had lost his starting job and was very obvioisly being jerked around.

    At least this year, he talks about being at peace. Not to say either of you is right, but trying to give context here.

  • Acbc

    Watching lots of bball doesn’t amount to much if you watch with blinders on.

  • jakey

    Someone in Charlotte was waiting for that pizza promo, sad day lol

  • bolero

    yah, I watched the game too last night. Its seems mcconelle has a decent D kinda Bev 1 on 1 but can’t really stop anybody. anyway just 1 game but his O was good not sure when his guarded. Same Canaan no D. Ish hmm. no comment. and they really moved the ball..

  • kauaiblue

    Right on, Acbc!

  • martan267

    This is such a well thought out commentary and very timely for me as it’s the new year and I’m breaking out of that cycle of only “accepting what the world has to offer” and going to strive out and become an entrepreneur. After over 25 years in the corporate rat race, earning that steady and perceived safe paycheck, I’ve decided to finally go out and start up my own business. It’s totally out of my comfort zone, but I want to grow and be challenged and feel like I control my own destiny.

    I think what Jeremy did to get his 2 year deal with the player option after year 1 is a way to control his destiny, to be nimble when the time comes when the best team, the best coach, the best organization for his situation arrives. This is such a well planned and smart business move, to be flexible so that you have choices/ options when the time comes. I commend him, his agents, and his support team.

    He’s grown so savvy in the short but fiery beginning of his career. Trial by fire and tribulation is how he’s been honing his skills in basketball and in business.

    Well done!

    PS. I love Naruto too!

  • adele

    Right. Lin should be smarter this time.

  • KHuang

    It’s not Lin that Clifford is failing.

    It’s Walker and Batum.

    Those guys are STRUGGLING because of Walker’s selfishness and Batum’s skilllessness, and Clifford is NOT COACHING THEM as effectively as they should be coached.

    A tougher meaner coach would rip into those two or bench them for struggling like they are, but Clifford’s too weak to SAVE those guys from themselves.

  • KHuang

    The reason is because the Hornets have nobody that can defensively guard his own position AND provide additional help defense to the guys that step in to defend Kemba Walker’s man whenever Walker lets his guy stroll last him on defense.

  • KHuang

    If I were the mean coach that I’d like to be, I’d start Lin at PG and back up Lin with Brian Roberts.

    Kemba Walker would be a DNP CD until he decided to start playing teamball especially on defense.

  • tom

    Yah thats why CLifford is inept

  • Acbc

    So happy for you that you’ve decided to invest in yourself, to make your dreams a reality. Good luck and wishing you all the best.

  • kauaiblue

    Nice post!

  • kauaiblue

    Awesome! Well be rooting for u!

  • Lin Win

    Last time he was interviewed about the 76ers Lin said “I don’t know what they are trying to do” then he goes on to say ” I want to join a competitive team”

  • Lin Win

    Transformed yes but not enough to win rings. I don’t see the logic to joining a team just to pad stats. Look at Melo? No one cares about his offensive abilities, they just talk about him being ringless for the rest of his career.

  • Lin Win

    Watching and playing basketball is one thing, reading about it is another.

  • Lin Win

    I never said he’ll ditch. He’ll leave when his rookie contract is up.

  • Lin Win

    I know enough ! It’s like what some Lin fans were saying that Lin to the Lakers will make them a playoff team.

  • Lin Win

    Do you think Lin is better than Nash?
    Can’t blame Hornets losing since we don’t have MKG and Al.

    Let me explain our position:
    You want Lin to be in 76ers simply because of stats and bragging rights.
    I want Lin to be in a competitive team because of rings.

    Having a career with rings is better than a career with stats. I don’t think Lin is better than Nash so I think the maximum unlikely stat line is 20ppg 8apg.

    Al was a stat padder? are you for real? He single handedly took a irrelevant team to the NBA Finals. He even won a game against the Lakers that had a perfect playoff record.

  • Lin Win

    Wrong again. Lin only had a handful of games and most notable ones were 38points on the Spurs and Lakers. His scoring on the 76ers doesn’t count because the team wasn’t even considered a basketball team.

  • Lin Win

    Thanks for proofing to me what you know.

  • martan267

    Thanks so much!!

  • martan267

    Appreciate that!