G2 CHA @ATL Game Thread

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Rick Bonnell
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Steve Clifford said at shoot around same 5 starters for Hawks game.
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@rick_bonnell Hmm… after how the Heat game started off, I was hoping for Lin instead of Hairston and Zeller instead of Williams.
12:44 PM – 30 Oct 2015

A hornet fan tweeted lin should start.

https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/660179724266807296

wow, that sucks for Noah. Trade him for Al. =p

That’s a pretty late start for a game, 8pm

I have them winning tonight

As long as Lin gets his stats, it’ll be a good night.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qj8cosk

no way, why?

shot blocker and defender and joe 3pt I hate him but you gotta add him to make it work

If you want to ship out someone, it should be Hawes not Cody. Lin only has Cody and Hansbrough as PnR partners and PnR defender. Others are PnP or soft pick in PnR like Hawes. Those who cannot do PnR properly usually also cannot defend PnR properly.

Question, why Clifford assigned Hawes to do PnR with Lin against Heat 2 days ago? He set a soft pick, hardly stopped Green and Winslow, and rolling to wrong direction, to the place that Lin difficult to pass. What is your guess? Is it because he is Clifford’s favourite, or Clifford wanted him to learn, or Clifford version of pick should be soft to avoid offensive foul or other reason?

Another alternative is the “NJ Nets Linsanity game” recipe ..

Hornets looks sluggish .. until JLin checks in and makes all kinds of crazy wild shots, assists, 3s for the Win then he rests. Rinse & Repeat.

It might take 5 games but then he should start

Then 40, 41, 42…and the Hornets keep losing until Clifford says uncle and sends Hairston, Al and Williams to the bench.

You always try to find the positive way of getting it done. But I’m afraid it’s gonna take some hardball. 🙂

you need to add him if you want brooklyn to say yes…and also to make the trade works

Pretty early for us West siders…5pm.

You want Lin’s team to lose? And folks wonder why Lin fans have such a bad rep out in the general NBA world.

They don’t wonder. They know it’s because of you. LOL

I think only losses will get their attention. Otherwise there will be no strong incentive to change.

I respect your sentiment… maybe it is the only way.
But, in all fairness, besides from this starting lineup mess, Hornets has been really good to JLin. MJ the GOAT even came out to endorse our boy. So, I will still root for them to win.

Also, if they keep on losing, how would JLin feel? He is such a team player… he is so happy now.

but if CHA/ATL split the games, more likely for the home team to win?

So CHA loses tonight and wins Sunday?

Some promising things from Game 1:

Lin actually had more PT than 2 starters. And he was 5th on the team in minutes played. So he was a virtual starter in terms of minutes. And he closed the game from 3Q 4:46 onwards, I can’t remember the last time that happened.

Some Lin fans wanted to give Clifford the benefit of the doubt, saying that maybe he would start Hairston, but play Lin more and let Lin close. You guys were exactly right, kudos!

I would, of course, prefer Lin to start with Kemba, Batum, and it doesn’t matter which PF/Cs. But if Lin continues to put up numbers like 17 pts on 10 shots, and transform Kemba from an inefficient player to an efficient one (like he did in Game 1), it’s only a short matter of time that he works his way into starting lineup.

https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/660219810949816320

https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/660220113552072705

yes, Lin sit because Green got a run, and coach thought he was over powered. But I think the coach later on figure out that was due to our bigs run back late, and caused the problem, thus AI was sit in the second half. I’m pretty encouraged by coach’s decision in that game. but in general, I still feel coach do not trust this small line up’s defense, thus he don’t want to start the game with it.

Is that Del Curry interviewing Lin?..If so, he works for the Charlotte Hornets?

What a journalist!!!!!!!!!!! Decide to unfollow this guy!!! He has definitely offended me as a big time!!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/QCHspencer/status/660192016794435584

Totally agree. Lin needs media now. It’s OK if some of them don’t like his game. No big deal. This is not Rox period. Hornets media are fair & nice to Lin.

The Hornets announcers were basically calling for more PT for Lin during the game, and so is Bonnell. I hope Lin can get 30 mins today, and get some quality time with Kemba and first unit.

can you give more details? which 3 mins? 2nd quarter? 2nd half?

https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/660230354884784128

2nd quarter when Heat went on a run so he went back to the bigger lineup.

The coach keeps the same lineup and expects different result.

Totally agree.
Armchair coach Lin fans are terrible and annoying

Please, media people want a reaction…any reaction. Why do you think they post Lin related things when they have little/no knowledge of him. They just cry foul when their lack of knowledge or biased comments get pointed out.
I, myself am not a ‘super’ enthusiastic Lin fan, but I give those that are big kudos for expressing their support for Lin, despite media whining.

While Cliff talks about League’s changing offense, teams are implementing…

Long 2s?

Nice, Lin has made over 100 shots in a row… Or was it a loop? :p

And you give them exactly what they want, Also the media is a big label. Theres a lot of people under the term media. You cant say it like its everyone. Some are just miss informed. so be nice and respectful like you would do if you were to meet them in REAL LIFE. Don’t be a key board warrior. Ignore the haters because non of what you do will change them and Educate the ignorant. If he was ignorant i agree with you but if you were rude then i don’t.

No, JLin did a good job held on Green in first half. At 2Q 2:17 Lin Substitution replaced by Hairston, Green only got 2pts at that time; then after Lin sit, within 90 sec, Green made 2 of his 3pt shots.

For you info, I don’t tweet to any journalist unless they really annoy me. I only read what they wrote and retweet if it’s a good quote. So far I only made few responded tweets in Lakers and not Hornets at all. For this journalist put me as “all Linsanity fans” really anger me.

It’s Hornets org.

If so then don’t listen to his show anymore.

Non of what i wrote was toward you specifically. Yes i was really annoyed by the second guys generality. Talking like he knows all of us.

Good. Lin haters need Lin fans to grows.

the second guy is an analyst and was a guest on the first guy’s show. he’s actually alright when he talked about Lin. he’s high on Lin’s game. but he seems to get ticked off easily here

Yes I decided to unfollow the second guy. Didn’t get much good info from him anyway. Other ones are much better and more JLin fans friendly.

Got my chips and my game face on! Ready for the game, go Lin!

LOL Maybe you need to go back to sleep in order for Hornets to get a win instead:-)

Thought he just sounded smug & a little arrogant in the thread but didn’t realize he was negative on LIn (in previous podcasts)..,

haha i like dell curry so much haha. good man and he’s got that southern accent.

Me to 🙁

batum steals the tipoff and gets and1!

Larry Bird used to poke fun at Dominiques defense.

Batum too slow

1q10 hairston brick 3

Starting lineup too slow with Al.

1q830 Al with good post move

Lin’s hair is up, he’ll be playing tonight LOL

Real time commentary from real-dsb! Thanks mate, you’re better than the game flow!

1q6 Kemba misses midrange (because Lin is not in)

Hornets starters quite evenly matched against the Hawks starters.

no, Kemba is much higher efficiency when Lin is on the floor with him. Gets much better looks.

https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/660249319656656896

1q6 Zeller in for Marv

1q530 batum with a bad pass tov

1q446 Marv in for Hairston?

Hornets looking a little stagnant.

Now I see why Hornet fans cringe when Al has the ball

Batum is hot shooting!

Big Al hardly ever passes it back out.

Batum 10 pts 4/4, Al’s 2 pts 1/7…someone sit his ***!

1q210 batum called traveling

batum trying too hard to pass, wish he would shoot a lil more

Are those lays?

still a close game, could be worse!

At this rate he will have 20 shots

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Lin in.

dominique lol….lin hater

I’m more interested in what that kid sitting behind him is eating.

Lin in paint loss ball. could of been a very easy layup …dam

yeah almost had an assist too but zeller couldn’t finish.zeller with 2 fouls

nope

1q1m 2nd unit plus Marv

Hawks commentators talking about Lin’s hair.

Hornet shooting has really cooled off at the moment 🙁

wilkins-unit has no one to create of dribble.

Wilkins is such a hater.

Also saying Hornets second team doesn’t have anyone that can create off the dribble. SMH

maybe he is mad because they cut Damien =)

Lin seems to being doing that thing where he picks up the basketball, holds it and gets stuck :/

missing shots

HE needs to shoot the ball.

lin has been bad. he had a layup before he lost his dribble, and still looks nervous and uncomfortable afterwards.

Lets see how lin reacts to this rough period

Yes he’s been hesitant since last game :/

hornets defense is terrible….lin not very good either

Atlanta. I was supposed to go to this game but I sold it, because I had work.

Awful starting lineup by Clifford/MJ/Cho. Makes it so easy to defend CHA.

Starters suck. 2nd unit is 100% reliant on Lin, so Heat/Hawks just swarm him.

Wilkin said lin not quick times now

2q10 Lin picks up foul from Bazemore. Announcer Stephanie gives Lin credit for diving on the floor

Ignore Wilkins, people. He’s an illiterate moron even Hawks fans cringe at.

At last!

does the team suck or Lin suck today? Just turned on and down by like 10?

Hey and some nice commentators props for how Jeremy took the contact and made that score happen

is there a hornets feed on NBA league pass (Free), this atlanta commentators keep dissing lin at every possible opportunity

2q9 Kam in

man that is not good

Marvin “Asik” Williams…

yes, go to another game, then switch back to CHA game, but choose AWAY feed

people wathcing LP, switch to AWAY feed!

Cable TV only showing Atlanta feed

How to switch to away feed?

Lin slipping twice, was the floor wet or are those Adidas shoes really that bad?

Getting into rhythm on that 3.

this looks like rockets-version of lin instead of what weve seen before. game is not slowed down for him; the opposite.

Lost shoe last game now slipping losing dribble.

He hasn’t really shot yet

Nope.

Lamb’s heating up…two treys in a row.

why did the big guy bring the ball down court – was about the gawkiest thing i’ve seen! Why did he do that!? Jeremy was right next to him.

Lamb is the only offense the Hornets got right now. Lin is not playing well so far.

lol, caught up in the moment I guess

Adrenaline shot to the brain.

They trying everything lol

lin gotta find a way to score despite the attention he’s getting or he’ll end up with minimum contract again next year

i was considering getting the adidas crazylightboosts but not anymore lol!! jeremy tripping and slipping everywhere

This is truly the kind of ideal lineup for Lin. He plays PG, there are no players that really need the ball in their hands to play. Lamb is a true SG. The bigs set screens. They play defense as a 5-man unit.

Shots just had not been falling for the guys up until that last run. But they are starting to do the right thing and the results will come.

Not blatantly just doing the little stuff, hooks, grabs, bumps…etc.

2q723 second unit plus Kemba.

Kemba on Schroder, Lin on Patterson

2q6 lamb bricks 3

2q550 Kemba embarrasing behind the back dribble turnover

Schroder can’t stay in front of Lin. Too weak and low IQ.

Gotta attack him more.

2q528 Announcer called Lin elite FT shooter

Kaminsky is a very willing passer!

and shooter!

Loved the Hail Mary passes…hilarious!

Seems like Lin isn’t getting the ball much?

Kemba is doing too much!

2q335 super ugly shot by al

Al Is so iso and boring to death!

WOW that was really good defense by Lin.

Energy went way up with the Lin Batum Walker Kam lineup…and here comes AL…orz.

Batum is PG? This is getting strange!

Can Lin stop with the head fake at the 3 point line already? Just let it fly. ><"

Except he’s been doing it every time. He needs to make some 3s so people would actually respect his shot and believe in his head fakes.

Lin playing very well, not forcing bad shots or getting TOs or PFs.

Problem is bad lineups. Al sucks and Hawks swarm Lin because the 2nd unit are all scrubs minus Lin.

Kemba is hogging all the possessions..shoot more Lin!

And go 0-5? No thanks.

that’s what he wants ATL to think

call a jj redick play for jlin

Only thing is Lin is hesitant to shoot or the defense is good on him.

2p246 Lin makes both FTs

Batum can’t play SG. And Al sucks…even when he scores.

I really want ATL announcers to eat their words.. “JLin not so quick, good first step”

2q140 Kam teardrop!

I am beginning to laugh at Wilkins. I think he is obsessed with Jeremy.

Al is 1-8 with 2 pts, Lin 0-1 with 4 pts; and Al refuse to pass to Lin while Lin is open, not nice.

Get them dimes tonight, Jeremy. Buckets will come in the 2nd half.

Even worse, though.

Dimes and free throws!

2q030 Kam with major brick, Al follow LOL

batum got tunnel vision there. a lot of sticky hands again

2q002 Aww, Batum with very bad TO, leading to breakaway layup

Batum should have passed that!!

Batum is totally overwhelmed at SG. Thabo stealing the ball at will.

yeah I saw Ballstream comments mocking Wilkins

Seriously Batum has been very nonchalant handling the ball and receiving the pass as well: standing in place as opposed to moving towards the passer.

batum needs to stop trying to handle the ball lol. i respect everything else about his game, but he seriously dribbles like guys i play at the YMCA

Batum!!!!! So frustrating

yes.. ball movement lacks a lot to be desired..
should be zipping to 1-2 people quickly

wow Batum bringing the ball up and JLin stays in the corner…coaching error?

Exactly. Take what they give you!

yes, he’s being a good PG to find open people & takes what he gets

4 to

Twice, Batum made critical turnovers to allow Hawks lead instead of Hornets.

I don’t think Batum is handling the ball cause he wants to show people he can play Point F, the coach wants him to learn how to do it. He just doesn’t have the awareness to play that way, at least not yet.

Isn’t he the ‘sharing’ pg/sg/pf? lol

absolutely and i think it’s because he tried to bring up the ball both times. the coach needs to tell him to STOP now

I think LIn needs to step it up. As a PG, he didn’t look good. Don’t know why he looks tentative now and not using his step back jumper. He featured that a lot during the preseason and he needs to not get stuck when he’s PG and direct traffic.

This Batum 1 guard experiment is getting uglier every game, reminding me that McHale used Parsons to help Haren’s not so brilliant ball handling.

TROLL FLAGGED.

Maybe I’m too sensitive…it looks like Walker is not too willing to pass Lin the ball….
Anyway, the team moves a lot better tonight.

Lin pls shoot a few more, I voted 21pts this game 🙂

I guess that could be. I feel like Clifford has been giving a lot of rope and challenging them to step it up. Plus it makes it easier for him to get his preferred lineup later if it’s clear he’s already handed out the chances

It’s starting to look like he//coach/Char wants him to be haren. smh

I’m just happy Lin got to play 14 min and stayed in the whole time without getting subbed out. I was worried when he checked in at the 2 min mark in the 1st quarter.

Defense loaded on Lin?

Lin is getting starter minutes.

big time

He needs to get back slapped by the coach for that

Batum is a horrible ballhandler, but they want to make him into Lebron. His baskets come from wide-open shots someone else created and his attempts to pass result in TOs. He’s also given up 20 pts by himself, Harden style, getting blown by every single Hawk and my 81yo grandmother.

That explains why Kemba isnt pasisng to Lin

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Go ahead, Adminstration. BAN ME and protect the hate trolls.

There’s a reason Hawks and Heat are top EC teams: their coaches know who they REALLY need to stop. Karl’s not the only one who knows who the engine/motor is.

Lin plays well. Look good without a field goal

Yep. That’s the problem with Lin leading the 2nd unit.

The 2nd unit stinks, so you just load up on Lin. Not rocket science except for MJ and Cho.

Its 2 games right?? We’ve played 2 games.

But when he is open, Al still did not pass to Lin.

Yes!

Good eyes (or amazing sense of smell)

I don’t think he’s playing well.

Al doesnt pass to anybody

also stop comparing players lin is playing with to previous player he played with. sounds a bit ptsd.

polished rookie…should get more PT

I vaguely remember someone posting a comment today that said: The problem is Batum
Who posted that? I’ll kill’em

He is trying its definitely not a good match up for him

2 games

I think Batum wants to be like Klay Thompson (a tall shooting guard) with some playmaking ability. The difference is that Klay plays within his means and doesn’t try to handle the ball wrecklessly in the open court.

Batum is shooting 5 out 5 too; how is he being a trash?
Calm down.

I agree with this. its a challenge for him no doubt especially if teams go small.

maybe his agent for next big contract

4 points & 2 shots.

Yea i know. Just remember he is on a new team and system so there will be rough patches

they are sunk costs. hornets need to move on in order to win!

Want next big contract? Then play him as a 3 where he’s a natural at, not as swing forward who is getting stripped by players smaller than him.

To give credit to coach he said he plays the same guys at the same time no matter what. He did so by not keeping lamb in instead of Lin.

In a fire sale, I’d get rid of 3/4, keeping only Batum.

I agree. He’s great glue guy SF. But he sucks at SG. As KHuang says, Batum has no moves off the dribble.

He’s a catch and shoot, pinpoint pass to cutters/shooters player.

Yeah but also seems like kemba and batum are more selfish than usual~ from my sort of objective point of view lol

What are you talking, Charlie?

3q12 same as starting lineup

BTW, Dragic is 1-7 with 2pts tonight after 8/6 last game. 99% of casual fans and even lots of Lin fans think Dragic is better than Lin. But he’s way worse then Lin when he’s put in a similar situation.

He seems to be swarmed with every drive.

3q1120 Hairston draws charge. (i’m not sure he was set before teague started upward motion)

3q1040 oh dear, terrible TOV by batum =(

yank hairston put lamb

3q941 batum missed c&s 3

3q930 teague midrange jumper

3q915 hairson missed c&s 3

hairston sucks put lamb out there

are u doing this for every possession?

3q850 batum hits long 2 (6 in inside 3pt line)

3q815 kemba missed uncontested 3

Walker’s pretty active on defense

3q720 schroder explodes to the hole and scores layup

nice 2 by kemba.

So much work to get one shot off.

Hows he doing??

3q557 great offensive rebound by marv for layup!

not necessarily every possession, just whenever I get a chance

Opponents don’t double team them at all, daring them to shoot.

batum on pace for triple double: pts reb tovs

The Hornets is killing the Hawks on the board.
That stinks the hawks.

Are you serious? Seriously!

Some grow the fruits, some pick them.

3q550 zeller in

3q530 millsap dunk, defense screwed up

Remind me when Lin is on the court.

I’m cringing seeing the bigs camping at the 3 point line. No one banging on the inside.

BATUM – 6TO

Zeller not so effective without Lin.

as long as not cost the WIN

Good, aiming for triple double.

3q415 batum missed wide open 3 c&s

Batum going for the triple-double: 14 Pts 7 Reb 6 TO

3q355 excellent finish by kemba in traffic fast break

3q330 batum is a very good rebounder

What is Hairston doing? at the corner!

Personally, I’ve never been impressed w/his playing.

I suspect that it’s Batum who wants to be a SG.

This team is terrible!

7-3 -> 5-5 -> 3-7

Yep, turrible…

Walker’s average PG, Batum is terrible PG. Politics suck.

If Lin is not in to close the game now, his min will be bad.

Hornets got no shooter, missing all those open 3’s. I am beginning to agree with the assessment they won’t make the playoffs.

Sitting…it’s batum’s game.

Opposite. To keep him, he allows TO. This reminds of Harden’s TO.

MJ must thought, Gee, I got a good ball handler in Pipon, let’s recreate it.

that selfolosha is dirty

Shiot the ball#

He was 4th or 5th option in offense

Never mind Batum’s 6TOs, dog the guy who has NONE.

They only want to focus on Jermey’s TO smh.

i was thinking same thing

whose to is that, need to check your eye sight, wilkins

Lin really hesitant to shoot this game. :/

3q238 lin guarding teague

Where’s the pre-season Lin man…. dude changed.. lol

Yes, but Lin has NONE. Why dog on someone about TOs when he doesn’t even have any?

preseason doesn’t much much

lin, now is not the time to defer….its time to carry, unless you want to go down on the sinking ship as well

why bring Wilkins’ diarrhea over here. Turn off the sound.

Where is Charlotte’s feed? lol

Lin keeps picking up his dribbles and getting stuck not being able to move his pivot foot. What is it doing?

3q139 Lin tried to drive in traffic, tov

I want to shove a rag in Dominique Wilkin’s mouth

3q130 Lamb on fire

I’m from Atlanta, so I actually like the hawks… 🙁

3q045 Lin with bad dribble tov

lin needs to shoot it from 3 to open up space

Lin as PG right now with TO after TO, it’s really hard to watch ><" WAKE UP!!

WOW 3 turnovers for Lin

If only he would stop dribbling and dribbling and just take some shots.

3 TURNOVERS BY LIN in 2 minutes wow

3q001 teague gets pick, makes jumper

and 6 TOs for Batum. The whole team not playing well…

First bad quarter by Lin. ATL is swarming him, but he should do what he did in the 1st half — get to the FT line.

4Q is Lin’s quarter and he’s mad by now. Show us what you got, Jeremy!

Trolls are out here like lord of the rings

Batum has been worse.

The main reason Lin’s not doing well is because @Dinoneseus:disqus is awake. We should always drug him before the game from now on.

I dont like wilkins anymore… he keeps trashing jeremy

As much as I idolized him growing up.. he is getting on my nerves..

Lin is not himself this game for some reason. He should be pulled.

Come on Lin find something

Why does Lin keep picking up his dribble? Not playing his game….

Lin hesitates too much!!!!

4q1150 oh dear Hawes 5 pf

Folks are on this board losing their marbles…Jeremy has always been like a roller coaster….nothing new

4q 1110 good drive by Lin, absorbs contact, no whistle

4q1100 Lin good defense draws charge on horford

take the 3, lin

And Lin takes ANOTHER charge!

Then you should be used to the roller coaster comments lol. It is what it is.

oh really

Hornets interior D is pretty bad. Can’t allow layup like that

YOu’re fine.

No spacing.. no set plays.. atrocious playing Batum as SG/PG.. atrocious interior defense

yes, that’s true.. Lin can shoot 3s or attack the rim to get FTs

Jeremy’s inconsistency has always been about spacing….no shooters no PnR Jeremy will look lost…been like that for years

Bottom line, yes atrocious in all aspects.

thats the generous take on it. it could just as well be said that teams think that liin will cough the ball up if they swarm him.
its not necessarily about respect — its disrespect. and lin has not punished them for playing him so tight.
he has coughed up the b all.

I thought this was supposed to be the Lin breaks out.. what happened?

Hornets are famous for its defense but they’re losing the identity?

Plus I like bears.

You are a wise man.

fans not allowed to post as guest? smh

this team is giving up too many 3s to pump fake and shoot a miserable midrange pullup.

4q9 lamb with the block!

You are like a game updating robot!

No ball movement and inside-out passing.

stealth tanking

I don’t understand how they can just forget all the preseason goodness.

4q807 Lin out

kemba isnt afraid to shoot.

still cannot see the floater and his jumpshot

Kemba just plays with so much confidence.. something that Lin lacks

Lin played well in the first half, took what they gave him. Second half? He was passive and too unselfish.

Lineups are the problem, but Lin has to learn for the next game.

And he shoots 38%, lol.

Not afraid to shoot… not afraid to miss

time to play hasborough.

Story of his career on full display tonight….come
Back later or next game with a better mindset….id stopped being mad when I began to understand what creates safety for him….lamb coming up tonight messed him up

lin did okay…i’m just going to lower my standards for him now. Solid bench player will be my new standard for him.

Because getting that outrageous haircut symbolizes Lin is confident in hiimself.. so he needs to show it on the court

Hawks swarmed him with double and triple teams every touch.

And in the 2nd half, he was too passive and unselfish (constantly pushing others to shoot).

Lin back

I rather him shoot 38% than take no shots at all

Lin is out again!

Lin back in…Clifford is a great coach. Benched him to make a point and then put him back in.

Good.

Credit Coach Clifford for putting Lin back in although he was struggling
Hope Lin can get lots of FTs

“Stop being nice and attack!”

He’s passing again.

Wow. At least he just proved he is different than previous coaches.

He sees what Lin is doing. Defense is loading up on him and Lin is too unselfish.

What if Buzz comes back and wins.

Think coach should give Tyler a go

When Lin plays with second unit, he gets lots of double team and defense focused on him.
When Lin plays with first unit, he can play better because defense is not focused on him too much.

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yes. finally shot the 3

Much more aggressive now!

MJ and Cho are keeping Lin out of the starting lineup.

Clifford is 100% in Lin’s corner. He proved it tonight,

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FINALLY LIN!

Yes! Mr. 5th quarter.

ABOUT TIME LIN!!!!!

FINALLY LIN!

THIS IS LIN WE KNOW!!!!

He has to prove he can consistently play at a high level, regardless of whether he’s starting or 6th man. Def credit clifford tho. He sticks with his rotation, not the hot hand.

THIS IS THE LIN WE ALL COME TO LOVE! YOU NEED TO PLAY LIKE THIS EVERY SECOND EVERY MINUTE LIN

wilkins is like tinman. obsessed with lin

Sure… for more stats? lol.

No need to all cap….

didnt he just say something nice? “Nice drive and kick to marvin williams?”

This is the starting lineup that Clifford should use.

its so he can balance out his hater comments.

Hawks are hitting panic buttons.

He has always criticizing every little thing Jeremy does.

Missed the shots but good aggression.

And what is your point of putting RWB’s stats here?

thank you marvin
!!!!!

Close game.

Yep. Even Curry missed 5 shots in a row during his 40pt game.

You should just follow Westbrook and leave Lin alone, since he sucks anyways. Why trouble us with you’re negativity?

Wilkins has been criticizing Lin’s defense all game long. Can’t wait to see Lin make a massive defensive stop soon.

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lin sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Don’t tempt me….arrr

OMG finally another 3 for 12 pts.

Safety matters

Shoot they almost had this game..

Lucky bounce by ATL.

Another game LOST by not starting Lin. Lin is 10X better — and so is Kemba — when he starts.

Coach Cliff! Believes in Lin…only benches him to make a point (stop being nice and attack!).

Huge props for cliff to still let lin play the 4th after 3 mediore quarters. Lin delivered in the 4th.

yep

Okay, I love Coach Cliff. He benched Lin…and put him back in. And then Lin attacked, make or miss.

What took you so long?! LOL

This is a road game and the Hornets showed character coming back.
Win or loss; the team becomes together.
Zeller doesn’t have a good game and old Jeff can’t deliver. What else can you do?

Start Jeremy as 2

Would probably better as a swingman for second unit. Get a “dummy” PG for second unit.He can set up plays as SG anyway.

What an intense game

Nice aggression by Lin…missed the layup tho.

was he fouled?

mine too… lol

Why Hornets always have to catch up if there is a way to win easily…..

Start Lin!!!!!!!

damn wish he made that in man it would have been awesome!

Walker seemed to have gotten fouled twice prior to that though

No

Even though it was a bit frantic.. I like the way everyone was passing to the open man.

on replay, it was a clean steal

Plz OT.

Lin was DWA (Defending While Asian).

Looked like a clean steal

yep…

Hahaha you hit the asian with the hammer…or whatever that saying is.

ouch…

Guy needs some burn for 2nd unit, along with Jeremy.

God, how long can they keep starting Hairston.

CHA 0-2 because they refuse to start Lin.

What was that?

Trust is a two way street. We’ve all had PTSD from the last 3 years. Can you imagine how much more intense that fear is in Lin? With this trust from cliff, Lin should feel more confident in his status and not have to constantly look over his shoulder.

The lost today was well worth this vote of confidence from his coach and it bodes well for Lin to feel much more confident.

Batum stepped out of bounds

Lin had a subpar game and he’s still +2.

Stop holding the team back, MJ and Cho. If you guys want to insult a “subservient” Asian, insult Cho.

It was the only pass option. Bad set by cliff

BTW, I actually sympathize with Cho. If I were him, I’d be worried about being mocked/fired for supporting “my own.”

OT please!

Batum should ask for a stop himself, tell them he is a rental or his stats will be ruined along with Hornets.

Please OT

Wow

That WOULD reignite Linsanity!

Set up Lin for 3 please…

Come on, miracle 3!

That’s my point. It would look “bad” supporting the only Asian-American player in the NBA.

Of course, Kemba…

Wrong guy for that three

Walker taking the last shot for a three????? WHY!!!!!!!

Why do you only comment negatively on Lin and not on the other players? To be honest, interesting…

Hornets will continue to lose so long as Lin doesn’t start, I’m serious.

Kemba now 2/9 from behind the arc, while Lin’s 4/7. Sure, let’s give it to Kemba.

well.. at least rockets are in the process of being crushed. Some consolation.

No Lin start No win

haha lol.

They really need to start Lin walker Batum

haha true

haha….finding comfort in others misery…ok I’ll take that too…

No the hawks left him open rather then datum,Lin,kimensky, or even marvin. Good hawk defense

I don’t care if it’s 20M vs 2M, the three either goes in or it doesn’t.

Thanks to the coach benched him for 1 min? smh! Lin always had passive game once a while & that’s really bad for him.

They are road games!
This is going to be a good lesson for the team!
Nobody gives up!!!!!!

I hope Clifford told Lin in 2Q to step up and shoot. Too late in 4Q to wake up.

Finally you said the magic words.

BOTH Rox and Lakers are being crushed. I’m finding some joy in that…

I do! I love Cliff! I don’t trust MJ and Cho. They think Kemba, Al and Hairston are better than Lin.

And …. Al?

TurnoverS.

And the Kings are spanking the Lakers. Game of the night is Thunder/Magic.

Watching Hornets games is like watching a good ending movie…but just a little short of perfect ending…80 games to rectify their errors and build upon the last 2 losses..

Completely agree. Batum is not quick enough and doesn’t have the handles to be a SG. Sefolosha destroyed him defensively when Batum tried to facilitate.

Politics SUCKS.

Early losses like these really builds character and the team.
They would remember this game.
Heck what can you expect from a road game.
The Hawks is really lucky to stay alive.

Not with the same starting lineup!

No. He was fine in the 1st half. They swarmed him and he did well in limited touches.

The 3rd quarter he was bad and too timid, leading to TOs. But guess what? Even Lebron and Durant and Curry stink for games at time. Lin has NO DEFINED ROLE right now and plays with different guys every game for the past 4 years. Give him a break.

Not with the same starting 5.

Cody Zeller has regressed a bit

KHuang do you think there is any way Al’s postups can gel with the the way the other players are trying to play?

Three out of those six were inexcusable.

I agree but Politics dominate.

Whenever Lin, Kemba and Batum play together, they dominate the other team.

When they don’t play together, the other team has an easy job defending.

Politics always Fock up.

I’m having a problem with Al on defense. Slow. Inconsistent in clearing the boards. Maybe he should test putting Hansbrough in at second unit.

the closing line up is still the best, somehow those three need to be together to be really good.

I give credit to Clifford to allow Lin to play through his mistakes and 4th qtr/crunch time. I thank him for trusting Lin.

Lol 2 of the 3.

Relief is an understatement, bro.. it’s like freedom at last hahha, with all of what Jeremy went through with his past two coaches.

Which is why it sucks. Basketball should dominate.

What was going on with lin in the 1st 3 quarters?

And Lin played poorly. But, it may just be that Lin needs to find his rhythm again.

Even with the LIN/Batum/Kemba lineup, Lin will always be the last scoring options, based on the 4Q of these 2 games. You can tell clearly who the team value most.

What are you talking about. They share it pretty well

What’s Lin’s line tonight?

Nobody seems to be upset with this loss. Hahaha.

Willis.

Love hornets’ commentator- Lin is 0-5 but he is not afraid to shoot.

Whatsoever, does it matter?

Noah is not an offensive threat, but he is a great defender, rebounder, and good passer.

Would that not be a better fit with this current Charlotte team’s style of play than Jefferson?

I don’t want Lin to start. I want him to play better leading the 2nd unit. He needs practice as the point guard. He’s overly relying on someone else to lead the offense and he needs the work in to sharpen his skills, pacing, etc.

it was awesome to see him have the confidence to shoot, even the three and the elbow shot he missed, they were good shots. and that layup that barely rolled out! arrgh! If any of those had went down, would have changed the rest of the game for sure.

For some reason seeing Bosh’s game in the season opener reminded me of Zeller’s.

Oh, my God. Zeller’s +/- is off the chart, downward!

Wow didn’t notice that

While I don’t exactly share KHuang fervent passion for T, I don’t understand why he doesn’t get any love at all from coaches.

Yes, but the 2nd unit has no one else to facilitate; which means ATL just focused on stopping Lin’s drive and taking away his passing lanes.
How many times did Jeremy end up picking up his dribble with nowhere to go and no one to pass to?

Agreed. To be honest i put how he played and the team on Cliff.

I like your grammar. All without D, no offense.

He’s dealt with double teams before. He has the skills and experience. No excuses. He needs to get the time to get his groove back as a PG.

lol hehehehehe

While a lot call for Zeller to be the 5 for second unit, his skills are not truly fit for 5. He’s better as a forward though. Reminded me of how Bosh was when he is played as 5 in early Heat seasons.

He means what he said.
He is a master of writing.
We all know these teams play with no D.

I hate it when my prediction backfires into my skull.

Ironic how people didn’t want any other playmaker and want lin to be have the ball in his hands all the time. That won’t cut it against good defensive teams.

Then he has to shoot more or something. He has to find a way to deal with tough defenses. Lin has the ability. He didn’t want to overdribble but he was thinking too much and ended up too much inbetween. That’s something Lin needs to work on.

Good minds are all alike.

That’s why Lin has to use his step back jumper. Lin has to learn how to be an effective PG when dribble-drive penetration is taken away.

Yup indeed, Q4 was the upside of what Hornets could strive to become

Significant changes from past seasons: 1) HC (Clifford) allows Lin to play through his mistakes; 2) Reinserts Lin in game & 4th/crunch time; 3) Lin plays w/starters in the 4th; 4) No Yelling at Lin on sideline after 3 turnovers; 5) Hornets announcers still give praises instead of criticisms. 5) He’s wanted on the team. 6) No big egos on team (that we can see).

Clifford needs to give Hansbrough minutes, hes like the only rim protector and would make the opposing bigs/guards think twice about tryna score in the paint. He would also add toughness to the defense. Take away minutes from Big Al/ Hawes and give it to Hansbrough.

Perhaps even start him(as KHuang had suggested numerous times). That would certainly set the tone for the team defensively.

NO

Lol, I hear you loud and clear.

Even that is debatable.

The FG% is 25%
His 3P% is 50%
My God. It sure looks good.

No, it wouldn’t help.

Jefferson is too much of a black hole shooting maniac who cannot read the court and bricks too many shots early.

Lin cannot save Jefferson.

My eye test: Lin/walker are net positive when they are on the floor together.

Well obviously that too… =).

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I don’t like Lin at PG.

The other players don’t have the fundamentals to play aggressive team basketball.

Lol yeah I feel the same. I just think giving Tyler a go has minimum risk with a big potential payoff so why not. Can’t be a worse decision than starting Hairston lol.

Is it just me or did Ballstream not have Charlotte’s feed for this game?

Point is, is it too much to ask for Clifford (or perhaps FO) to give Hansbrough a chance to show how he can affect the game…

Yeah, only Alanta feed.

Any of you think Clifford benched Lin briefly in the 4th because he wanted to help Lin re-focus? If so, that is brilliant.

I liked CoachC’s attitude, although his plan did not constitute to a Win. But still he stuck to his plan and trusted Lin. Thats is huge, we havent seen that in the past 3 seasons…..Lin continuously getting bench for various reasons

Before the season Lin had mention, CoachC would let Lin play thru his mistakes…CC is man of his word…respect him for that.

As for the game, we should cut some slack to the rotation/lineup that the Coach trying out. Its a new team, with alot of unknowns. I feel it will take atleast 10 season game, before the Coach settles down in finalizing the rotations.

Lets have some patience. Go Hornets, Go Lin

One of the biggest factors in the loss: Turnovers…more specifically Batum’s turnovers.
Clifford made it a point in pre-season to stress that the team needs to minimize turnovers, due to the fact that this Charlotte team is not a good transition defense team.

18 turnovers in a 3-point loss.
Batum’s 7 TO’s led directly to 11 ATL points!
He doesn’t seem to have the handles to play SG.

Beverley gets no playing time now

I think so. I was surprised he came back that quick.

Lol, Ty Hans is ideal at the 4, and Hairston shouldn’t even be in the starting lineup(smh).

Should’ve benched him sooner so he could calm down. Lin was playing so bad almost the entire game.

That is something that has really surprised me. I think they both play at about the same speed and complement each other in offence and defence.

I don’t think T will mind playing 3 as long as he gets minutes. At this point I think he’s willing to play any position. LOL

My day keeps getting brighter…Lakers and Rox being crushed, Beverine not getting minutes…

Oh, btw guys, I just got my preferred assignment for the next three years…in Taiwan, where I’ll join @Michael.

I agree.

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Anyone has any take on Zeller? He literally disappeared in the last two games. He is first sub from the second unit. If JLin is in before him, would it make any difference on how the team looks?

Another loss unless Lin starts. The “NO ASIANS” policy of the Rox, Laker and Hornets is really hurting them.

The first 5 games are tough. Cant wait for the easier east games

You can’t waive him because he has already been nominated as the 30th starting small forward in NBA.

I don’t mind him being benched to have him refocus his mindset.

yeah I think he should be a catch and shoot or penetrate when there’s an open lane. preferable shoot only.

He’s nobody. Not good, not bad. Lin makes any decent big look great.

Greg Smith is waaaay better. Ed Davis is waaaay better. Hawes is way better. My grandma is equally good.

He still doesn’t shoot fast enough. curry could do it. Durant and Dirk have the length.

No, Lin played bad w 2nd unit now… don’t know why it’s nothing like preseason game at all. smh!

As I said previously, both parties should just admit that Batum plays the 3 as a rental. Otherwise it hurts not only Hornets but also Batum’s next contract.

Kemba Walker drove to the rim several times and made some shots that’s about it.

Jeremy helped make him good.The problem, too good that Zeller’s game is reliant on Jeremy now.

I want to see more of Jeremy-Hansbrough and Jeremy-Kaminsky pairing.