G14 Hairsanity in Overtime Win

Jeremy Lin started slow but was his Hairsanity was tremendous in scoring 8 points (7 straight!) out of his 14pts in the 127-122 OT win vs the Kings. His 8 out of 15 Hornets points were simply the definition of clutchness! CBSSports even commemorated this excellent Hairsanity game to tell our future grandkids someday 🙂


MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 15 vs WAS
  • MorlockO

    First?

  • Dorothy

    first

  • cshot

    Second

  • Singapore BB Fan

    just shoot….don’t defer

  • Chopz

    4th, crap. Just like Lin on this team, I’m the 4th option.

  • Hope

    Linn has no fear. Clutch…

  • Alain Gervais

    Wheres that troll saying Lin was nervous in the game ???

  • Charlie S

    It’s pretty simple. When the game is on the Line give it to Lin. Can I be a head coach now?

  • blubell

    Yup 🙂

  • MorlockO

    YEY my first first!!!

  • Chopz

    Well the chickens(lins hair) have come home to roost for the haters tonight. Never nervous in crunch time baby.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Did you guys see Kemba hugged Lin in overtime?

  • David Kim

    Lin = Mr. Overtime!!!!!

  • blubell

    Yay and Jeremy was clutch. This is your night!

  • MorlockO

    yup awesome game!!

  • LOL Check out this appropriate Q4 & OT summary

    https://twitter.com/ianeBeE/status/668991306648174592

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Probably went over to the Knicks-Heat game.

  • JW

    great win with Lin playing so many minutes. Hopefully this will continue.
    Crazy though that the game was so close against a 5-10 team.

  • blubell

    Hahahaha……… I don’t get it. lol

  • I don’t fully get it either but it’s some kind of fusion of power LOL

  • Alain Gervais

    Knicks lost btw

  • blubell

    Can this night get any better?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Nope

  • Singapore BB Fan
  • AlexBB

    NBA is just not covering much of Charlotte games.. Just 2 highlight video..SMH. Where are all the post games interviews??

  • Dorothy

    Congrat, LOL

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    They lost big!!!!

  • Kaminsky, JLin and Zeller had the Top 3 +/- off the bench with +23, +18 and +16

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/668996970501935104

  • MorlockO

    Thanks haha

  • AlexBB

    wow only 78 points. Heat defense good

  • blubell

    We’ll see. The night is young in the west coast 😉

  • LinMad

    The bench saved the game and Kemba’s unbelievable scoring in the 4th.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Sweeeet!!!

  • yes.. Lin+Kemba can be the most lethal backcourt in the NBA!

  • blubell

    Why is Hawes at the way back? Lol.

  • Rick Johnson

    Spacing the floor.

  • George Karl is good! “Lin was busting us”

    https://twitter.com/JackNieto3/status/668996616053911553

  • sws94

    I think I can say this with confidence. MW likes Lin. He looked really pumped up by Lin in OT, especially after making the jumper.

  • NONONO

    Wow, some Hornets fan on Atthehive had the gut to say this at starting of 4th quarter.

    ” With as bad as he was in the first half, Lin might be our only hope {ONLY HOPE!} in this one…
    by calamity.12 on Nov 23, 2015 | 8:42 PM”

  • sws94

    Link to Karl postgame interview?

  • LinMad

    Kemba does too when he’s not closing games. Well actually Kemba looked pumped today too in OT when Lin was scoring.

  • blubell
  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Starters lose it in 3Q but bench & Kemba saved it. OT, of course all Lin Lin Lin.

  • blubell
  • leeda harun

    i still dont get it with clifford coaching… Only when he is desperate he let lin in the game…and when lamb cant do anything..smh

  • LinMad

    there are quite a few Lin haters there. They will eat you alive for praising Lin like he’s not a Hornets

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Clifford is slow but he’s getting it =)

  • Hope

    Marvin William is really good teammate to jlin. I saw his reaction when jlin scored in ot couple times. In the knick game, he got ejected for knocking that 17 guy out. That 17 hard fouled lin earlier in that game. Keep an eye on MW. I think he might be the enforcer for jlin on this team. Kind of like JJ.

  • LinMad

    Why Zeller and Lamb in front of Lin?!?! jking

  • james brown

    one is Jeremy and the other is Jeremiah???LOL

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • joyce ward

    Right now NBA not paying attention to the Hornets right now, but they will make them notice.

  • sws94

    In some ways, we have to be thankful to Rondo for throwing that pass to connect to G a y? with .07 left putting the game into OT. That set the stage for Lin who decided it was time to flip the switch.

  • james brown

    yes, (time out huddle), after that made basket by JLin

  • james brown

    yes you may!!!

  • Very true! Marvin Williams just acted like one of us congratulating JLin for making the clutch jumper in the OT =)
    He’s a good guy!

  • sws94

    That’s what I think too.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    WOW, did not know that. New Jeffries. Respect!

  • Chopz

    Jared Jeffries, yeah. I’ve noticed that almost everytime Marvin Williams gets a rebound, he looks for Lin and gives the ball to him immediately, not anybody else. He knows who the playmaker is.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • Thank you, Rondo!
    You made Hairsanity Hero in OT possible =)

  • ViNuyork

    …their lost would make the game interesting this Friday in MSG–glad we got tickets for their next meeting

  • LinMad

    theres that tweet I was waiting for

    EDIT: it’s usually on NBA twitter account not NBAcom. I guess this is new

  • blubell

    Yup, they will make noise. Buzzzzzzzzzzz 🙂

  • james brown

    Thanks Rondo, nice game and do it next time!

  • LinMad

    i thought it was 17 points deficit?

  • blubell
  • james brown

    noticed that one too for this game alon. he was the happiest when Jlin finally connecting his shots.

  • joyce ward

    You see, I don’t agree. I think Clifford is the defensive guy and Ewing is the offensive guy. It ia matter of them figuring out what is needed for the team win. jmo

  • CJSHYY

    I like MW a lot. He’s good teammate & good player.

  • james brown

    for fastbreak purposes!!!LOL

  • Chopz

    he still needs someone to help teach him basketball fundamentals, so he’s flying “coach”.

  • james brown

    they needed him more than the other

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! Another fan from Taiwan.

  • blubell
  • Dorothy

    we should vote for him at All-Star when we vote for Lin, like we did for Asik

  • #8 seed for the moment =)

  • LinMad

    We’ll break .600 pretty soon

  • CJSHYY

    Pacers? I thought they are not good?!

  • blubell

    Great veteran to have in the locker room for sure.

  • sws94

    I think MJ is going to like what he saw tonight from Lin. He’s going to see that clutch quality, that will the ball in when it counts.

  • khomphuong2
  • Love JLin’s expression after he made it

    “Been there, Done that .. Thank you for the assist, Nic!”
    “Let’s get back to defense”

  • blubell

    I love MW’s reaction at the end. Like big bro rooting for the little bro 🙂

  • blubell
  • khomphuong2

    I think Hornets is the best group Lin is w/ since Knicks (-melo, -JR smith)

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • Chopz

    hey touch my hand, not my head.

  • blubell
  • “You got it, Bro!!! Aaaargh!”

    Great to see =) I’m loving this team’s unselfishness

  • CJSHYY

    Any comment from Cliff postgame?

  • LW

    Just like Jared Jeffries

  • Alain Gervais
  • CJSHYY

    Thanks.

  • NONONO

    I know some Hornets fans at atthehive do not like Lin fans much including this guy…. but he finally said


    All you Lin fans TURN UP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

    It’s your time to shine!!!

    I’m gonna live forever, I’m never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I’m never gonna fly.

    by Charlotte Bobcat on Nov 23, 2015 | 9:37 PM up “

  • joyce ward

    I think Walker is a good guy, he gave lin props in the comeback

  • blubell
  • Chopz

    Roger that.

  • CJSHYY

    Bc they had fight w some of Lin’s fans…. Well, Hornets media are nice compare to Rox.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin said his agent was doing the same hair. Did he mean Montgomery? I don’t think he has hair. Must be another agent.

  • sws94

    Kemba had a good post-game interview up on hornets videos page. Mentioned J Lin a lot, good positive stuff.

  • Chopz

    Roger Montgomery was his previous sole agent. Jim Tanner is now his new leading agent. I dunno if he has hair.

  • JW

    From Cliff’s postgame interview, he mentioned he wanted to bring Lamb back in, but the guys on the floor were doing so well that he kept the lineup. I wonder if that means Lin would’ve been out for the final minutes.

  • blubell

    Haha. So much hair conversations this season.

  • Alain Gervais

    Doubt it

  • CJSHYY

    I think maybe the one from Taiwan? Don’t think it’s Roger.

  • sws94

    Nah, probably means Frank K.

  • CJSHYY

    No I think it’s either Zeller or Kaminsky.

  • JW

    I think Marvin could’ve subbed for Frank. Coach touched on that as well. Frank said he was good to continue

  • Alain Gervais

    “It’s really cool that I can get some rest. JLin made huge plays for us and other guys as well,” Walker said.

    “We have guys who are consistently ready, consistently working on their games. That’s one thing I love about this team – guys stay ready and those who don’t play are up on the bench cheering us on.”

    Case in point: When Lin made a breakaway layup in overtime, forcing a Sacramento timeout, Williams ran nearly to half-court to give Lin a chest-bump. Williams totaled 18 seconds of playing time in the fourth quarter and overtime, but was ecstatic over being part of such a big comeback. That tied for second-largest deficit overcome in Hornets history.

    “We weren’t supposed to win that game.,” Walker said. “Guys just made some great plays. JLin made huge shots in overtime.

    “That goes back to our depth – they’re always ready.”

    And they’re not always the same five and likely won’t be the rest of the season.

    Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article46167045.html#storylink=cpy

  • CJSHYY

    Thanks.

  • blubell
  • Dorothy
  • Rick Johnson

    So if Pacers beat the Wizards tomorrow then Hornets will move to 7th place. It sets up an interesting game Wednesday when the Hornets play the Wizards. If the win they put 1 1/2 game distance ahead of Wizards, if they lose they will be back 1/2 game behind the Wizards and perhaps back out of the top 8.

    Wizards will be on second night of a B2B and Hornets playing at home so they will have the advantage.

  • Chopz

    Another great game for lin. Offense not going your way in the game, pass the rock, get other guys involved, play great defense, and then boom! Clutch in OT, just like we Lin faithful knew what could happen and we saw what did happen.

  • Chopz

    I guess not then : )

  • Rick Johnson

    Hmmm wonder which agent JLin was talking about? Montgomery certainly doesn’t have enough hair either:

    http://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/03/10/sports/10montgomery1/10montgomery1-popup.jpg

  • leeda harun

    not a compliment to lin?

  • NONONO

    Hornets tied Wizards #7 on EAST

  • CJSHYY

    #7? Wow!

  • sws94

    There was no question about Lin. I don’t believe Cliff mentioned Kemba much either. He talked about the depth on the team, what they had to do to overcome the deficit, and Frank. He said Lamb played well and he was thinking of bringing him back but the group on the court was getting it done, especially defensively.

  • NONONO

    One more win could put Hornets to top 6.

  • Rick Johnson

    They are both 3 games behind but Wizards .600 vs Hornets .571. If Pacers beat the Wizards the Hornets will be in #7 alone. Then they need to beat them Wednesday to get some distance.

  • CJSHYY

    So weird. Lin played big in OT. Not even one reporter asked about him? So obviously coach let him played big in OT.

  • NONONO

    Hornets vs Wizards on Wednesday at home after Wizard come back to back from Pacers tomorrow. It is good for Hornets.

  • CJSHYY

    Didn’t watch any Wizards game this season yet. Hornets vs Wizards? Who will win?

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes Wizards will be on 2nd game of a B2B and Hornets will be at home after a days rest. But to move to #6 ATL or TOR will need to lose a game. TOR plays CLE Wednesday so maybe.

  • John Focker

    How about BOTH TOR and ATL lose and Hornets move into 5th? LOL

  • Linzen

    Fortunately my anti jinx didn’t screw up Hornets and JLin’s game ?

  • NONONO

    It is likely. Hornets only lost 5 pts in previous two ALT games. Now, Hornets players get to know each other more and better. I hope Hornets beat Cle.

  • Rick Johnson

    ATL playing BOS tomorrow so I would think they are favored but BOS good enough they could pull out a win.

  • Dan Cohen

    I don’t blame him for not liking lin fans. I’m a fan and I don’t even like some delusional extremist ones.

  • NONONO

    Lin can handle John Wall as he did it in Summer League 2010.

    https://www.google.com/#safe=strict&q=lin+wall+summer

  • Dan Cohen

    see.. as long as kw get his, then it’s all good if lin also get his.
    you know what I”m talkin about.

  • occupatio

  • CJSHYY

    Kemba will do the job not Lin.

  • Hope

    Lin hit the 3 in 4q, them miss a 3. He’s open again, but didn’t take the shot. He drove to the basket all in ot. It’s a good sign. He’s raising his game to another level soon both O&D.
    Let’s start wit wizards.

  • John Focker

    Fields and Shumper: “But…but…that’s OUR hip bump!”

  • Alain Gervais
  • JoeTeam

    This sounds like gsw lite. Dang I’m getting lp.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I have been suspecting that the FO demands Clifford to give minutes to Lamb. We all witnessed that Lamb is a just a pure shooter and in this game trading basket won’t win this game for the Hornets.
    Lin please opt out next season and let them as much Lamb as possible. This team is not for you; just for Lamb.

  • Chopz

    Well I reverse jinxed your anti jinx so that fixed it.

  • Rick Johnson

    There’s the acupuncturist / massage therapist. Hope he can help JLin’s shot soon. Big game against John Wall Wednesday.

    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/669021344646885381

  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m not going to at the hive anymore. In fact I don’t even think much of the organization. After this season, Charlotte will be all but history. Lin will get to play somewhere and they can have as much Lamb as they want. Adios Hornets.

  • John Focker

    Byron’s quitting? LOL

  • Rick Johnson

    He has to pretend like he’s doing something and that he knows what he’s doing.

  • Chopz

    League Pass? I got the team pass for $119. Better then full league pass for $199.

  • John Focker

    Don’t speak so soon. What’s if Lin opts out 2nd year and Hornets offers a fat one?

  • CJSHYY

    I think so. He needs someone to take the heat from him. Wed vs GSW it’s a sure loss game. Russell maybe it’s his target?

  • JoeTeam

    One of us … meta world peace.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m not the extremist but the presecution of Lin has taken steps further to Lin fans. Fancy no more Lin in Charlotte after this season. Lin haters has already caught up with Lin fans wherever Lin goes. Adios Charlotte after this great season.
    Clifford wants to put Lamb back (after his 5th foul). What kind of message this is? The coach is forced to play Lamb more. The early extension of Lamb’s $21M contract is taking its toll. If Lamb played the 4Q, the Hornets couldn’t mount a comeback at all. They might just send in the third team in front of their home crowd and lost by a blowout.

  • John Focker

    Bodies are piling up under the bus in less than two years. Lakers need to procure a second bus now.

  • sws94

    The fans there are annoying. Not all, but enough to turn Charlotte fans off.

  • JoeTeam

    Really, what about kt Steph? 2nd maybe.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I didn’t say anything in the last month there and then Idiscover I was banned for no reason. I wouldn’t even care to go to the site again.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Check Russell’s interview… he’s still very young kid….

    D’Angelo Russell Has Little To Say After Another Lakers Loss

  • Rick Johnson

    Russell is the future of the Lakers. If he goes down then the whole tanking from last year was a waste. He has to keep Randal, Russell and Clarkson. He won’t touch Kobe so I’m not sure how much he can change.

  • DX

    Maybe Lin will do when play PG or in 4Q.

  • DX

    Keep up!!!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    To be a backup PG to Walker? I doubt it

  • CJSHYY

    Russell is the only one he can move… he’s not Lakers future… saw few times from his postgame interview can tell… he’s too young & not really that ready yet.

  • JoeTeam

    I gotta watch gsw too so I have to pay full freight. It’s ok, Lin is doing great and I git to many gsw fan friends. Lp mobile was only 50 two yrs ago. They $mart.

  • sws94

    That’s a sad interview. I hope for his sake that Byron is let go as soon as possible.

  • Linzen

    Thank you! lol

  • John Focker

    I hope the Lakers get stuck with Byron forever, even long after Kobe retires.

  • CJSHYY

    BS will out of Lakers when Kobe retired. Before that… not very likely.

  • CJSHYY

    Got this from the other side.

    Lin getting big props on SportsCenter. SVP loves him. Says Lin owns OT. First highlight shown

  • sws94

    SVP?

  • Chopz

    Scott Van Pelt?

  • sws94

    I don’t watch that show usually. Don’t know who he is. But good to hear.

  • spiderman

    SVP for the PPP, GMT in your SDL yo!

  • Dan Cohen

    Sad Very Poor
    Senior Vice President
    Sick Vice President
    Something Vs Predators
    Scott Van Pelt

    Choose one.

  • Dan Cohen

    lets’ have all the players except kobe ‘boycott’ bs.
    let’s see what happens.

  • CJSHYY

    I have no idea who he’s?

  • occupatio

    lakers reporters are so worthless. so glad i dont have to listen to those guys anymore

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s not going to happen from the trend they are treating Lamb and Lin. They prefer Lamb to Lin even before the competition. There is no competition; it’s predetermined. The coach simply accepts this and is trying to put Lamb back as much as he could. There is a reason that Lin doesn’t get to play in the 3Q. If they put Lamb in the 4Q, either he got fouled out or the team got clobbered. Lamb is not they tough player that the Hornets FO thought he could be. Lamb is not tough like Lin.

  • Chopz

    When Byron gets fired from the lakers, he can apply to be a bus driver, we all know why he’s qualified.

  • SacBee article on GKarl comment on JLin busting them so quickly.
    Cousins got a stiff back to he left late in regulation.
    In the end, JLin survived because he’s strong and made the most of his opportunities.
    We should pray for 1 OT every 4 game =)

    “Kings blow 22-point lead in OT loss to Hornets”

    Kings coach George Karl said he deserved some of the blame.

    “There’s always could’ve, would’ve, should’ve in these situations,” Karl said. “We probably should have went to blitzing them a little bit more … . We let (Kemba Walker) get to his right hand. Jeremy Lin was just busting us so quick that the help couldn’t come.

    Cousins watched the finish with ice on his back.

    “It’s the worst feeling in the world,” he said. “I wish I could be in there to help, but my body wouldn’t allow it.”
    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/kings-blog/article46172150.html#storylink=cpy

  • Chopz

    yeah, he got a back Lin-tusion.

  • John Focker

    It all depends on Batum’s contract. If Batum walks then Jeremy could become starting SG.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m so glad this is the home court for Lin fans.

  • Maknusia

    Oh man!…missed another great game!!! 🙁

    Happy to see many comments (tweeter) recognizing Lin’s talent, especially when the game is in line and for his clutchness!

    Go Lin.

  • back Linjury due to Stif-Lin D, you mean? :]

  • I got to watch last Q4 and OT .. that’s when the Linning started happening lol

    Waiting patiently for Jun Liu 7-min highlights 😀

  • Maknusia

    GK…always had recognized Lin for his plays…good to see it continues

  • Chopz

    That’s right Kwok Wai Lai. Forget At The Hive, we’re cool here At The Jlinportal.

  • Maknusia

    will wait for tthe highlights in the interim…but I would need to download the game to see him in full action! Leasting (Beasting) lol…

    BTW…what happened the first 3 quarters?

  • Chopz

    Aw, you don’t know that, you’re just Lin-sinuating.

  • DX

    Can’t wait to watch next game vs. Wizards. Hope have another win, then Hornets will be at 6.

  • John Focker

    I’d like to nominate myself for tonight’s OT win MVP, as opposed to our regulars @Michael and @LAJane.

    The Hornets were trailing by 20+ when I visited my dentist. After replacing my crown with permanent cement and then prophylaxis, I walked out of the clinic and saw the Hornets’ OT win.

    Learn Kemba! THIS is taking one for the team! 🙂

  • I just skimmed through the Hornets comments on the game from atthehive, linked below. You can tell they’re disappointed w/Lin early on in the game, but it’s interesting that even then, a couple of them believed that Lin could bring them back. And then they were mostly very supportive of Lin when he took over in the OT. I was overall pleased with their friendliness and attitudes.

    What bothered me was that toward the end, there were a couple Lin fans who started pushing really hard to get Lin credit for certain things. It’s not necessarily that they were wrong, but that they were just doing it in such a divisive way, and toward people who were already pretty appreciative of Lin anyway. (For example, one was pushing really hard that it was Lin, and not Kemba or the bigs, that sparked the 4th quarter return. Again, regardless of whether he was right, he was just making such a big deal out of it toward people, many of whom were already giving a good deal of credit to Lin.) Everybody was friendly and cheerful until then. It’s unfortunate. Actually, after reading them, in some weird way, it made even me feel like I wanted to cheer for Lin a little less because of the Lin fans. I could feel how they felt, and I felt a little sad that Lin fans might make Hornets fans not like Lin as much.

    Anyway, that’s how I read the situation. Some people here might disagree with me or interpret things differently. I’m just sharing how I see things, and urging Lin fans to please be careful how the present themselves.

    http://www.atthehive.com/2015/11/23/9788824/charlotte-hornets-vs-sacramento-kings-gamethread

  • CJSHYY

    Too bad, Lakers was thinking about to hire George Karl for coach but Kobe wants BS… smh!

  • spiderman

    Cool quote from Lin (as posted in a great article by Howard Megdal https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-redemption-of-jeremy-lin)

    “It’s not so much proving to other people as it is being free, having that happiness on the court again, as opposed to feeling put in a box,” Lin said. “It really was a lot more personal—play the way I’m capable of playing, do the things on the court that I could, versus anybody else’s perception of me. Getting out on the court, feeling free to do the things I’m capable of doing—that was everything.”

  • lol, yeah .. as long as we’re Linning, we’re good!

  • LinMad

    Does Lin have post game interviews anymore? I haven’t seen one in awhile was hoping for one today

  • sws94

    I agree with you. The fans there got carried away. atthehive is not a Lin fan site, it’s a Hornets fan site. The people there were fine and the over-zealous and over-bearing Lin fans, not all, but some, will end up turning people off to Lin with what they were doing.

    Also, when any team member plays not great the fans will get on them. If it is Lin, don’t take it personally. Because when they do well the fans will then say great things about them. It’s just how fans act.

  • idk .. Q3 is supposed to be Kings beasting time
    Lin took full advantage of Kings loading up on Kemba in OT then he hit that clutch shot

  • joyce ward

    So the Hornets are 8-6 in the eastern conference in 7th or 8th seed.

  • CJSHYY

    Someone said radio….

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Someone said #7.

  • james brown

    yet some fans here feel and shows the pressure when they feel that Jlin is not performing to their liking and becomes the FIRST one to throw stones at JLIN’ even though and obviously that fans don’t deserve throwing that stone. #FairweatherFans

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    This is from the article
    “The Redemption of Jeremy Lin”

  • I’m also concerned because there might be Lin hater pretending to be Lin fan to stir up the pot; good thing there are big Lin fan being trusted by Hornets fans.

    True Lin fans shouldn’t hijack the conversation on Hornets fans to be about JLin; they should be open to discuss other Hornets players too.

    If I visit there, I would definitely talk more in balance about how well Kemba, Frank and Zeller played and how JLin played so well with them. It should be about Hornets as a team.

  • james brown

    some fans becomes overzealous to the point of reason because they want their opinion and point to be the winner.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There are definitely imposters there pretending to be Lin fans or even one of us.
    Lin hating is not that simple. It’s a well organized effort to get rid of Jeremy Lin; perhaps, it’s because Jeremy doesn’t really play like any elite basketball player. We all know that Jeremy is really one of a kind basketball player.

  • Lam

    Yeah I felt embarrassed reading the comments of these lin fans.Some of them are behaving like Justin Bieber fans in their zeal.

  • AlexBB

    It is a team efforts at the end. We all should be glad that Lin played a key part of the team win..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Despite our effort to keep peace, the Lin haters have never stopped provoking and stirring things up to give us a bad name. Ever since the days of Clutchfans, they have never given up on this. Who is behind all of this nonsense? Is it related to the Knicks, the Rockets, and the Lakers. Lin has never had a moment of peace to develop his game like other NBA players such as Kemba Walker.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, the infiltrated Lin fan who’s really a troll. We’ve seen lots of those.

  • Sundown

    Atthehive was going WAY out of their way to be nice to Lin fans – crediting him when he played well, not responding to the crazy LOFs with anger or animosity. But some folks wouldn’t let it be and tried to make that team board a Lin fan site. Very rude and disruptive to the game.

    Also don’t understand why normal Lin fans want to argue for more Lin credit in the middle of a game thread. Let it go. Everyone’s heard those arguments. If you have to argue that Lin’s defense is why Kemba scored so many points, save it for a non-game thread.

  • Sundown

    LinMad seemed like a troll, maybe Tinman. But some of the others just seemed like fan who thought they were posting here.

  • JoeTeam

    Tues

  • TTNN

    I honestly think those are trolls.

    That board is extremely nice place and nice people. Actually, most Hornets boards are nice.

  • LinMad

    the LinMads on that site isn’t me

  • TTNN

    but you two sounds like the same though…..

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Of course who else? It would be Lin.

  • LinMad

    ok it is me. I said what I honestly felt.

  • TTNN

    yeah, that LinMad was banned once already, I think he was banned again. Good that their mod now act faster.

  • Sundown

    Hard to tell they are trolls when they post exactly what gets posted here, where such comments are appropriate for a fan site.

  • CJSHYY

    So weird. The Charlotte Observer just like Cliff’s postgame interview couldn’t talk about Lin’s OT performance…? smh!

    The Charlotte Observer:

    Kemba Walker’s 39 points give Hornets 127-122 overtime victory

    Walker’s put-back of a missed layup by Jeremy Lin clinched the game with 5.9 seconds left in OT.

    The above sentence is the only place Lin was mentioned.

  • TTNN

    then stop it.

  • JoeTeam

    Maybe the trolls are just copying what we post here to incite heh heh … just alternate universes.

  • Sundown

    Kemba was the lead story tonight. The second story was bench (especially Lin). It Lin by himself isn’t the story tonight anywhere except a fan site.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    who cares. espn knew who dominated ot. they get way more views

  • TTNN

    they are. When they consistently ignore other people on the board, and when they keep posting extreme statement.

  • lol .. At this rate, your dentist will get rich from your frequent visits to help make #Hairsanity happen!
    At least you need to go at Game 20 vs GSW!

  • CJSHYY

    That’s true. Also Sports Center.

  • LinMad

    My love for Lin is too strong

  • LinMad

    I feel like in the background they already have their mind up that Lin cannot be the face of Hornets. Cause they want to sign him again or he’s going to a diff team next season

  • TTNN

    I think there is another Observer article give Lin enough credit…..

  • Hope

    Is there a game that jlin plays in overtime and didn’t score a single point?

  • CJSHYY

    Really? That’s good. I got the from Taiwan’s article fan’s comment….

  • TTNN

    Gosh, you are a true hater!

  • occupatio

    there are some lin fans (so many, so there are many kinds) who are just socially clueless. i dont know if its an age thing, or they also dont know how to talk to ppl in real life even. unintentional trolls.

    for example, fishing for compliments for lin in a hornets team game thread. its so pathetic, as if they just need to hear others say something positive about lin.

  • LinMad

    how? Cause I defend myself from Lin haters? I’m sorry I’m too hardcore

  • TTNN
  • occupatio

    whats unfortunate and sad is you dont even realize how obnoxious you are.

  • TTNN

    I will ignore him…..

  • CJSHYY

    Thanks.

  • JoeTeam

    ha ha, we had a joke in college. Whenever someone was fishing for compliments (today’s equiv of a humble brag on facebook), we’d all break out the big fishing poles and do a big deep sea fishing act. Fishing for complements sort of got rooted our of our dorm by and by.

  • LinMad

    explain. All I did was praise Lin on a Hornets site and if I can’t do that cause it’s a Hornets site, that’s pretty lame cause Lin is a Hornets. They can praise Batum, Kemba all they want but once a Lin fan praises Lin, it’s “This is a Hornets fansite, a team site”. I’m not buying it. There is some ignorance there.

  • I’d like to call this
    “Dr. Lin making a sharp #Lincision inside the paint”
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/669045641968906241

  • sws94

    Why say it’s not you. You have a voice here. You can go other places that are just for Lin. atthehive is for Hornets fans. And most there are not hostile to Lin. Much of the time, they’ll look for whoever is the outstanding player of the team to credit. Tonight, clearly, it was Kemba.

  • occupatio

    many kings fans have crucified karl for not playing cauler-stein (their best rim protector with cousins hurt) in the fourth quarter.

  • LinMad

    ya but I disagree that the minute a Lin fan praises Lin there they immediately jump on you and say “This is a Hornets fansite” when we all know when Kemba or Batum has a good game it’s Praise Kemba/Batum time. I don’t really care cause I’m not going there anymore. Lin Fans are not welcomed there. Charlotte media doesn’t seem to appreciate Lin either.

    Also the things I’ve said on that site is the exact same things I do here when I praise Lin so why can’t I speak my mind on a Hornets fansite?

  • sws94

    You have to expect that. Look, if Lin scored 25 points in a quarter and was the captain of your team for many season, would you talk about a relative newcomer that got some big points in overtime much? Maybe they could have talked about Lin some, but it isn’t surprising that they wouldn’t mention him that much when another player had an extraordinary game.

  • Nice pics

    Match captions to pics:
    “Ref, you serious?”
    “From tanking to FrankTheTank!”
    “Fist-pump time”
    https://twitter.com/linspiredinca/status/669045467045433344

  • I wonder what was Karl’s reason?

  • JoeTeam

    any long highlights yet, sorry I missed the game.

  • sws94

    They said Lin had a great OT. That’s good enough. Then it is time to come back here for more talk about Lin. There is not the place to do it because it isn’t focused that much on Lin.

  • occupatio

    im not familiar enough with the kings and their roster to even attempt to guess.

    but it seems like karl likes to play 3 guards at once (eg, rondo, collison, bellinelli), so perhaps cauley doesnt fit into that small lineup. collison and bellenelli are negatives on defense.

    i thought this was a good read for a kings fan perspective about the rotations.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/kings/comments/3u13vo/that_was_fucking_pathetic/

  • LinMad

    Well when I made my post it was for the Lin haters who said Lin sucked early game and also after game they even said some things about Lin that wasn’t nice. I can’t come in at the end of game to defend Lin?

  • james brown

    its their forum and they are saying what they need to say and hear. Some uses the ears but most of the time most don’t!

  • sws94

    They say players will suck in a game no matter who it is, especially on a game thread. Then they change when they do better. They get on Kemba or Al much worse than Lin when they aren’t doing well but I doubt you pay attention when they do that. Do you?

  • occupatio

    and from the comments about casspi, it sounds like hes still doing the same thing he used to do on rockets (like kaminsky), ie, fake the shot and try to do something in the paint that doesnt turn out well.

  • sws94

    It’s amazing how players keep their same bad habits.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    If Charlotte lost this game, they would be tied with Detroit Pistons at 11th spot @50% but now Now Charlotte is at the 8th alone.
    In fact, Washington and Charlotte are both 3 games behind in the playoff picture at 7th and 8th.

    Charlotte can’t afford to lose this game. Every game matters in the playoff race which starts really early this season. Right now 13 teams are still competing for the playoff. The 11th team or above is playing at 50% or above in winning %. This is how competitive the conference is.

    I dare say if Clifford played Lamb instead of Lin, the Hornets would lose this game for sure.
    That’s wonderful because if the team wants to go to playoff which is not even option for Chao and Clifford, they have to go to playoff to keep their job. Lin then may have the space and minutes playing for the Hornets.

  • LinMad

    I’ve been on that site for awhile but they are more harsh on Lin. They ripped Lin when he was 0-3 shooting in the first half. 3 missed shots only.

    Also I feel like they don’t give Lin enough credit and as soon as Lin fans come on there to praise Lin when he’s doing good they are like “I’m outta here cause the Lin fans are coming to ruin the board”

    Some of them definitely feel inferior once the Lin fans and Hornet fans who like Lin start praising him.

  • i appreciate how you want to defend lin, but think of the overall outcome of your arguing with them. as a result of your arguing with them, they might actually end up liking lin less. then what have you gained? very little, and this is with people who are still acknowledging many of lin’s good plays.

  • Karl definitely likes his guard plays but usually there was a reliable big like Kenneth “Manimal” Faried in the Nuggets. Maybe it was the lineup that was working for offense but not defense

    This game definitely is a blemish in Kings history

  • LinMad

    The ones I argue with probably already hate Lin. Same ones who ignore a good play from Lin and let other fans praise Lin and they reply with “Oh please” like we’re blowing it out of proportion.

  • Chopz

    People will always hate on Lin, he is a pioneer. He is the first Asian American to make it big the NBA. This just does not match peoples’ perceptions of what NBA players are supposed to look like or be like or play like.

    People see what they want to see in the world. If their lives are filled with openness, they tend to see things from both sides. Others however, dwell on bringing down others to feel better about themselves. They use every possible excuse to find a way to say Lin is no good and he doesn’t belong in the nba. They will say Lin is no good, rather than admit they have a deep dislike of a person just because.

    Because of what? we all have different opinions or answers on that. Hate on haters, Lin will continue to prove you wrong and you will continue to swim in your own misery. Sucks to be you Lin haters because Lin will continue to be clutch and you will continue to clutch to fear and hatred, and lose your grip like the kings did tonight.

  • you might be correctly perceiving some wrongs done. my point isn’t about whether what you’re saying is correct, but whether anything you’re saying is helpful. notice that EVEN HERE on a lin fan site, people are getting annoyed with you. in the end, i think you’ll hurt lin’s status more than help him.

  • occupatio

    cody does a nice job of shielding his man to open space for lin’s drive

  • Maknusia

    but but @johnfocker73:disqus technically could only make 32 visits (that too provided he have all intact)…what happens to the rest of the games?!!! Unless he is wiling to redo all over again?!!! If so…we should post a big banner to support JF

  • LinMad

    Actually they weren’t annoyed with me until someone posted the link to ATH and read the comments there. I think many of you are trying to suppress Lin fans who are very passionate about Lin. Calling us Clutchfans when we’re not.

  • blubell

    Enjoy 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    same post. del

  • Chopz

    To be fair, when Lin was on the rockets, he could do no right. Even when Harden would screw up over and over again, he could do no wrong. We’ve seen it before so Lin fans are well aware of what’s going on, we’ve been keeping an eye out this year too.

  • blubell

    Just posted 🙂

  • Lx

    Hornets need to move up in standings , so they don’t have to play the cavaliers. Refs really love the cavs.

  • Spot

    So Jeremy is doing it again:

    Turning a bad coaching team with selfish divas into a play-off team.

    Jeremy, now, is probably in the top 5 of NBA’s best players

  • Maknusia

    Happy to see Lin has good mates in his team!

    Jeremy Lin and Marvin Williams

  • Dan Ang

    From what I’v seen of coach Clifford, it could’ve been anyone of those guys, except Kemba of course. By leaving JLin in, its already a compliment in itself.

  • Maknusia

    Kings coach George Karl felt his team’s fatigue was a factor down the stretch.

    “I should have substituted probably earlier and more often,” Karl said. “I thought we were going to win the game with the switching. We probably should have changed it up with more blitzing.”

  • LinMad

    I like that other play where he uses Zeller as a screen and weaves in and out to the basket.

  • blubell

    Jared Jeffries 2.0 🙂

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I haven’t done half of what you did and I got banned. In fact, I had not been there for a long time and I suddenly discovered that I was banned from at the hive. It’s probably because I posted somewhere discussing about the extension of Jeremy Lamb. If you still remember that article. Lin fans are not always treated fairly. Same is true for Jeremy Lin.

  • LinMad

    I disagree, they downplay Lin all the time. Even say that he had a little bit to do with the win today. Not a lot.

  • Maknusia

    seriously…I dont find it weird at all. When Lin scored 38…did we or the media talked about anyone else who had contributed….it was all Lin….

    Similarly, Kemba did really well in this game….let him shine…he deserves it

  • occupatio

    its actually quite cool that karl talks openly about his coaching mistakes. i guess you have to be an established coach to feel comfortable doing that.

    ah, mchale, never once admitted any mistakes. it was always the players’ fault.

  • LinMad

    I haven’t been on that site reading all the comments.

  • blubell

    I’m sure the hair helps him make that Lincision

  • blubell

    Don’t forget BScott. The worst of them all.

  • JoeTeam

    worth the wait, time for a 14min snack and beer ha ha.

  • occupatio

    i dont think bs could even talk about his mistakes in a coherent way because he has little idea what hes doing. explanations require giving a reason, some basic concept of tactics hahaha

  • LinMad

    All I did was point out the fact that when Lin came in the 4th, our deficit decreased and I mentioned that just like I mentioned it here. If that’s trolling then I don’t know why I got so many thumbs up here for the same point I made over there but instead of likes I got a ban there cause it’s a “team sport” apparently. Not like I’m denying it isn’t a team sport.

    They just don’t like hardcore Lin fans. And if you want to call me a troll go ahead but I’m pretty sure I got more thumbs up on this site than you have.

  • sws94

    Cliff has Lin closing close game after close game and still there are these suspicions that he wants someone else over Lin.

  • blubell
  • sws94

    Same with Frank K. And maybe Cody Z. And maybe if the same Lin vznx would mention the other players as well as Lin with more balance you’d seem to be part of the spirit of a Charlotte Hornets fan site instead of acting like it is a one-player fan site. It’s the one-player only look, that almost tunnel vision that doesn’t acknowledge or credit other players on the team yet what they may think overly defends that one player type of postings that will wear on people and not want to have Lin on the team simply because his fans have hijacked their forum.

  • LinMad

    My first comment i made on that site praised Kemba as a scoring machine.

  • LinMad

    no they aren’t. You can say what you want but there is a reason why ATH has bumped heads with some Lin fans on Twitter. Even the ones who were professional. Did you already forgot the immature tweets they made last month to Lin fans?

  • CJSHYY

    Saw Joy from the highlights…..

  • LinMad

    aint’ nothing extreme about what I said there. It’s same thing I say here. Are you implying that this site is extreme compared to Hornets fansites?

  • Infini

    Call them out and ask them what their handle is on this site or the other.

    If they are a true Lin fan, they will post on one of these sites. If they don’t, then we will know they are a troll.

    And if the do post here, at least we’ll know if they are trolls or not.

  • LinMad

    I post here and I’m admitting that I got banned there. So did Kwok Wai Lai who got banned from there.

    The truth is that 50% of the viewpoints we make here that is transferred over to ATH will probably get you banned.

  • Infini

    That’s why we need a Lin fan registry hah!

  • JoeTeam

    ding!

  • Brent Yen

    You know Superhuman Registration Act ends up became a Civil war…right?

  • CJSHYY

    I like MW. He’s very nice teammate & also good player too.

  • LinMad

    looks painful

  • LinMad

    ATH wouldn’t like it if you said “key part”. Lin was just another Hornets player who played today.

  • Chopz

    You are very passionate about Lin I’ll give you that, some will say a bit overzealous. Try not to battle with those people because they won’t see your side of it anyway. People see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear.

    Come over here and you’ll have people like me who will listen to you and understand where you’re coming from. I see both sides of what you and everyone else here is talking about. I’ll tell you this though Linmad, if I have to choose between a Lin defender or a Lin doubter(because of his fans) or what, I’m gonna choose the Lin defender. I will not apologize for being a diehard lin fan to anybody, especially the haters. Remember it, write it down, take notes, I don’t care.

  • Steppen03

    LinMad,
    You’re NOT alone…
    But every team sites are the same – There will always be Haters of Lin. You can’t keep arguing with them – on and on. I will do it for here and there, one sentence or two and then I’m done and gone. You can’t convince All haters. I will say – Let Lin prove them wrong with his All-Stars performance with games to come, with more seasons to play.

  • AlexBB

    Well facts are facts. Lin was key in OT and many NBA observers have acknowledged that. IN such case ATH is not being fair and balance. But fans are fans and you can’t pleased everyone..we should just ignore

  • LinMad

    ya I’m not going there anymore. Apparently I’m not welcomed there to express my Lin feelings about the game. I do feel sorry for some Lin fans who are being banned cause they are grouped into one group. But the sad thing is that the same thing happens here too where Lin fans are grouping passionate Lin fans into the Lin trolls category. Both communities have misclassified Lin fans.

    I’m used to it though. I’ve been banned from so many Hornets and Lin fan sites. I don’t think there is a home for overzealous Lin fans but so far this site the mods haven’t banned me.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I agree with you. The team management has already made up their mind. Management of a team normally controls the media. If you discuss something questioning their decisions, you could be banned such as the signing of Jeremy Lamb for the extension.

    There is already an article openly questioning their decision too but that’s OK, because it’s from SI.com.
    http://hoopshabit.com/2015/11/02/charlotte-hornets-three-years-21-million-much-jeremy-lamb/

    Trying to go to the sbnation at the hive discussing it, you might be banned there.
    http://www.atthehive.com/2015/11/1/9656592/charlotte-hornets-sign-jeremy-lamb-to-three-year-21-million-extension

    My point is when I look at the drowsy eyes of Jeremy Lamb, I immediately sense a lack of energy there. I trust Scott Brooks is a good coach. He didn’t start James Harden and he’s right because Westbrook so far is the better PG no matter how much effort Morey put into the media to make Harden the choice of MVP. I still think Westbrook is a better choice. Scott Brooks didn’t think too highly of Lamb for a reason. I trust his judgment too.

    The Hornets has a habit of giving extension early but it may really backfire on them. For the time being, these issues are better discussed here than elsewhere. Jeremy Lamb has all the look and measurements, wingspan, and shooting % to succeed in this league but Scott Brooks wasn’t impressed at all. He’s also Kemba’s ex-teammate in UC too. I haven’t heard Kemba Walker mentioning him at all. It’s weird.

    Just wait a few more seasons, the truth would be uncovered. Whether the Hornets management has made a heck of a bargain signing some super talent at $21M or otherwise could be told soon after this season.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Washington and Charlotte are tied with 3 games behind the Cavaliers but Washington indeed has a slightly better winning percentage than Charlotte. After the next game, we could tell who is still going to be there. The losing team would immediately drop below the 8th rank in Eastern Conference.

    It’s crucial that Hornets win as many games as possible in their home court. The Hornets could have easily lost this game if this was not a home game.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    They don’t allow you to question the decision of their FO specially when there are articles openly challenging them.

  • Chopz

    Well I’m a passionate Lin fan, and I think that I’ll call a spade a spade when I see it. Sounds like they have a mob mentality over there so best to avoid them. This is our website here and we’ll keep an eye out on how things go. Don’t worry, we’ve got checks and balances here on this site. We got Lin fans from all points of view, so we’ll keep each other honest.

  • LinMad

    Ugh, we all know Lin fans outnumber Hornet fans so I don’t get why they can’t just welcome us. Lin is making a big profit for Hornets. There is no way he will take another $2M contract after this season. His fan base grows every year cause he’s been moving from team to team and those fans who liked him will follow him.

  • Spot

    Yep. It’s all bout Kemba and pad your stats

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Don’t worry about that. Just leave them alone, Jeremy wouldn’t stay in Charlotte for long with FO like that. Clifford might not even be the coach there next season. Houston ClutchFans was even worse. Sure glad we have our home court here freely discussing and supporting Lin.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    That was history.

  • LinMad

    ya i’m gonna leave it at that. No more going on that site for me. Not that I don’t support Hornets, but the Lin fan haters like to cry too quickly.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Give up. Some of them aren’t listening. It’s not the end of the world. I have agreed to disagree with some of them. Rest in peace. It’s all good.

  • LinMad

    I don’t think anyone is trying to make a Hornets site into a Lin site. We’re trying to join the Hornets family and express our feelings about the game. Lin is on the Hornets therefore you’re going to get comments about Lin. Whether it’s extreme or not. I just feel like the old Hornet fans don’t like change within their fandom. They can’t allow all the Lin fans to be part of the Hornets fandom. They want to pick and choose which Lin fans can be a Hornets fan.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    One of the two teams will make the 6, and the other would fall out of the playoff picture for the time being because both Washington and Charlotte are tied with 3 games back in conference ranking. This home game the Hornets can’t afford to lose. Coach Clifford will have to play his best players to win. May the better player be Lin not Lamb. I’m a Lin fan not a Lamb fan.

  • real-dsb

    That was Harden-inspired defense by Rondo, the reach around attempt after getting burned by the defender.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The selfish player in him deserves another dismal season; perhaps even worse than before because they have to tank even more to keep their draft choice next season.

  • LinMad

    To all the abused Lin fans out there,

    I just want to stand up for you guys and say that NO ATH,

    YOU CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH LIN FANS YOU WANT TO KEEP IN YOUR HORNETS FANDOM. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT US ALL.THE GOOD AND THE UGLY. I DECLARE MYSELF A HORNETS FAN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.LIN SAID HIMSELF THAT ITS OKAY TO BE WEIRD BUT NOT OKAY TO BE BULLIED.

    /drops the mic

    http://media.giphy.com/media/13py6c5BSnBkic/giphy.gif

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He will always pay attention under the bus..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Russell is still an asset. BS just can’t change this because Russell’s not Asian American that could be toyed easily.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Well deserving!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    God will make sure Lin can play at the clutch like today, I believe.

  • Dan Ang

    Too obvious guy. Also doesn’t help that your fellow trolls upvoted you.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Strange as it may seem, the teams that Hornets are going to play are progressively more competitive not to mention the Bucks. Wizard < Cavaliers < GSW.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Tied for 7th 3 games back.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Charlotte ties with Washington which they are going to play against in their home court. Edge is on the Hornets.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    PFV is right while the team is giving the go to other guys, Lin should just facilitate and defend waiting for the right moment to shine just like today.

  • Dan Ang

    I don’t know, but Clifford reads like a drama-free type of guy to me.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    If Hornets wins, this team is going to be at #6.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He’s just telling the FO he heeds what they want him to do but still he wants to win the game. Sorry I can’t put Lamb in the den while the Li(o)n is winning..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There is a game video in nba showing Lin’s contribution in OT.

    Lin Scores 14 Off the Bench vs Sacramento – 11/23/15
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/

  • Chopz

    Here’s a great article on Curry vs. Kobe Bryant by Marcus Thompson of the San Jose Mercury News.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-thompson/ci_29156980/thompson-curry-not-kobe-now-nbas-chief-assassin

  • Rick Johnson

    Robin Lundberg‏@robinlundberg

    A lineup of Cody Zeller/Frank Kaminsky/Nic Batum/Jeremy Lin and Kemba Walker has absolutely destroyed Sacramento in the 4th quarter.

    https://twitter.com/robinlundberg/status/668976415770021888

  • 1mtoldman

    batum the alleged imported hope to keep star was actually the weak link in this lineup then; (not that he hasn’t been the star in other games and not to be critical overall, just sayin for this particular time that was pretty clear both in stats and eye test of what was transpiring on court, he made some very poor choices).

  • Chopz

    And overtime

  • 1mtoldman

    i noticed every time lin came off there was one guy who always was extra enthusiastic after lin had done something good; was in williams then? (seems like here at least).

  • stam

    I agree. From the interactions I’ve seen from the highlights, Walker, Al Jefferson, and Marvin williams have been very supportive of Lin, cheering and picking him up when he’s on the floor.

  • 1mtoldman

    yes and overtime, especially overtime for lin. mr. 5th quarter. also: with all the credit (deserved) to walker, not walkers numbers both scoring and especially +/- before lin was in the game and after.

    lin was clearly the catalyst to make it possible for walker to move to another level that was not just putting up numbers but winning (lining).

  • 1mtoldman

    i completley messed up on my immediate post game posts about hornets current playoff standings; understandable cause i was busy with other things and i didn’t take into account washington cause i was just looking at partial data and didn’t realize they have played so few games; their 6 wins could be in the picture!

    so i guess it appears at present then hornets are sitting 8th yes?

    and a deeper question i dont even know how the playoff spots are structured now it is just 8 best records in each conference, east and west now that division spots have been scrapped, or are there still other modifiers?

    would appreicate a response.

    in any event then the washington game becomes extra important.

    also just looking at the sked; the hornets are going to hit a very long very tough patch somewhere in the middle where they could lose a lot of games in a row.

    its absolutely critical now that they are in the middle of a relatively easy patch that they win the games they should win; so far they have been doing that for the most part.

    but as we know “past performance is no guarantee of future results”.

  • 1mtoldman

    like the spike, fear the spike.

  • Rick Johnson

    That Lineup has OffRtg: 130.4, DefRtg: 67.3 NetRtg: +63.1

  • stam

    If the Ref’s weren’t so biased against him then Lin’s stats would be signficantly improved, decreased TO’s from Non-calls, increased FTA from fouls, and increased steals/blocks/charges instead of fouls.

  • 1mtoldman

    lamb tho capable of some occasional offense espeically playing of lins presence is incapable of defending anyone and has that what would have once been called “space cadet” aura.

    as you i beleive pointed out several times during the game; had lamb remained in the game the comeback would not have occured.

  • 1mtoldman

    i said 7th but i was wrong.

  • 1mtoldman

    so…hairsanity is a state of mind, a state of super-reality then not any particular statistical definition? but just something that a truly lin-sane person automatically knows when they see it happen?

  • Andrew Ho

    Just going to add my 2 cents to the discussion earlier about Lin fans (i am one too) posting on other forums. Us fans post on other forums to put our point of view across. Sometimes we want to reply to certain comments because we think it’s wrong. Just remember the old saying, “it’s not what you say, but HOW you say it”.
    Our goal is NOT to make people dislike Lin more, but sometimes if you say things a certain way, even if it’s factually correct, it ends up having the opposite effect – making people dislike Lin more…because of HOW you said it! For example, can’t remember who exactly, but someone said Kemba did well in the 4th because of Lin. Look, that might be partly true, but if you go around repeating that sentence, people are gonna get irritated. It’s like if I am actually a genius at something and helped a lot of people, but I go around repeating “I AM A GENIUS AND YOU ARE ONLY WHAT YOU ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF ME”, even if it’s true, it’s damn annoying to others. Nobody likes arrogance and putting yourself or your heroes (Lin in this case) on a pedestal. I’ve also read some saying Lin is the reason Novak and others on the Knicks team got good contracts….come on, firstly Lin is not the SOLE reason, he is a PART of the reason, but if you go around saying “LIN IS THE REASON NOVAK GOT A GOOD CONTRACT”, it’s annoying to others. A better and more tactful way imo to talk about the Kemba good 4th for example, would be: Kemba can play better and more efficiently with another playmaker next to him who’s also a decent defender like Lin, they can elevate each others games.
    Second, when you are invited to someone’s house, even if you are a “hardcore” person with “hardcore” opinions that you consider factually true, it’s still basic manners and respect to be polite, and tactful. When on other people’s forums it’s the same, you may be “hardcore” but it’s good make an extra effort to say things tactfully. As another posted said, Andrew Moon I think, think about what the end result is: if you go”hardcore”, sure you may have felt good about it, but is it really doing Lin any good? Or is it making people dislike him? So sure, if you have a strong opinion, by all means state it, but do it in a tactful manner! In order to be persuasive, it’s often not what you say but HOW you say it!

  • Spot

    If they stick with this lineup they could do great things

  • Michael

    = =. Truth be told, I was actually watching the game and this forum up til the third quarter, but I didn’t post cause ..well you know. The game looked like it was out of hand, so I went to bed, and tada….all I can say is this J-Lin kid is pretty good.

  • PETE B

    I up vote the vid but I really really down vote the referee
    He should be fired

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL That means you need to stay in bed for JLin to do well:-)

  • Michael

    …and giving birth to the hornets win.

  • KL

    As you mentioned, division champs are no longer guaranteed playoff spots. And if there is a tie the head-to-head record will prevail. I think there are other modifiers but you can check the official nba website.

  • Phillycheese

    No pain, no gain.

  • Phillycheese

    Under the bridge we find another.

  • wu kong

    I am flat out amazed at the number of ‘fans’ that have followed Lin from Houston to LA to Charlotte stirring up hate and causing general havok on this and other sites. Psychotic Stalker behavior. I do not understand that level of hate. That desire to see the world burn. That obvious pleasure when you hurt others. Such black hearts.

  • real-dsb

    please go to bed for rest of Hornets games. =p

  • real-dsb

    Kobe hasn’t been an assassin in a long time

  • Maknusia

    All..I can say is…keep sleeping…

  • Phillycheese

    They are too obvious. They’re here too.

  • Maknusia

    oh really?!!!…sorry been away for couple of days….and missed most of the day today…

    nevertheless…unfortunately many has double face, when they write on internet and how they behave in real life…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I like Kemba game in 4th qtr. He didn’t force it but he scored within the flow. That was great to watch. That was the teamball. As long as Horners play teamball, I have no issue at all.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I’m still unable to find such comments that stirred up hate.

  • Michael

    As Daryl Morey would put it : The correlation is 3 deviations above the norm….

  • Michael

    My expression in bed is like Lin getting that post game massage, if I know a game is going on.

  • Michael

    I am right here.

  • Maknusia

    you are a sweet casper

  • Michael

    That “transparent” huh.

  • real-dsb

    Kemba had 2.1 PPS with Lin on the floor, 1.0 PPS without.

    https://twitter.com/datastats/status/669110926780444672

  • Rick Johnson

    GSW favored by 17 points over the Lakers

    I hope the Pacers beat Wizards and Celtics beat the Hawks. Then the Hornets would move up in the standings.

  • Acbc

    I did a Michael today and just turned the thing off. The site is really getting annoying. Glad the team won and Lin did well in ot.

  • Acbc

    Kobe may not be the same assassin but still really good at being an ass_assin.

  • Maknusia

    not worth the mention…lol

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Credit must be given to Clifford to find ways to give playtime to Lin.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Maybe sleep away the rest of the season esp during offseasons:-) LOLOLOL Guess I join the teasing you team now:-)

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    whatever yu say doesn’t make haters turn around, and wouldn’t turn Lin supporters either. All those excuses for hating are so sickening and repetitious. Lin didn’t do anything wrong. Why do people hate him. Explain! They hate Lin for no real reason. What makes the difference to hating Lin fans.

    Haters are going to hate. Hungry lion is going to swallow yu and the excuse is superflous but there will be plenty, pal. After so many years following Lin, I have learnt that long ago. Knock it off.

  • noob

    Actually many people hate Lin because of the irrational segment of his fan base. Hey I’m a JLin fan myself but I just have to smh at much of the craziness that some people put out on the message boards

  • John Focker

    Actually, many of us fled from the old site when (and because) it became infested with Lin fan extremists. Fortunately Psalm had foreseen the decadence of the other site, and labored hard to build this peaceful sanctuary we now enjoy.

  • John Focker

    Clifford and the Hornets fans are beginning to see how clutch Jeremy is down the stretch, and Jeremy closing games is becoming the norm (minus the Bulls game exception).

  • chan c

    Wow! wow! 🙂

  • Bearness

    What a comeback! Games like this make me believe what Clifford says about Lin is not just lip service. Although I hope Lin’s role becomes a little more defined and consistent, Hornets still seem like a pretty good situation, especially compared to Rockets and Lakers. But, I think Lin is getting this many minutes only because MKG was injured. If not, I have a feeling Lin might have gotten around 15~20 minutes per game because it seems like Clifford is getting a lot of pressure to play certain players this season (but not necessarily to play Lin less) and there are only so many minutes to go around.

  • John Focker

    No worries, I compensated your not sleeping with some dental work on my part.

  • John Focker

    Kelvin Sampson would be proud that you’ve elevated his Japanese algebra into Japanese statistics.

  • 1mtoldman

    i fled then got kicked off when tried to go back to get other people to flee; weird. (at least i still find it weird).

  • 1mtoldman

    there’s the details to back up what i wrote earlier:

    ” with all the credit (deserved) to walker, note walkers numbers both scoring and especially +/- before lin was in the game and after.

    lin was clearly the catalyst to make it possible for walker to move to another level that was not just putting up numbers but winning (lining).”

  • 1mtoldman

    the michael sleeping factor significant correlative effect actualization

  • John Focker

    Was first at work and then at the dentist today, so I missed the game. Only after watching the highlights did I realized how many baskets were robbed by the refs from Lin and the Hornets (Zeller, Lamb, etc.)

    However, little did the refs realize that by shortchanging Lin, they helped stage one of the most dramatic comebacks this season, and a spotlight display of Jeremy’s heroic clutchness. Karma works in mysterious ways…

  • John Focker

    I’d guess trolling is allowed at the old turd, but poaching isn’t? LOL

  • 1mtoldman

    he’s still an assassin its just hes target has changed from the opponent to his team.

  • Phillycheese

    Or maybe because Al was not on the floor. You keep pushing that agenda on the Hornets forums it just makes you look bad.

  • 1mtoldman

    if “you” refers to me ive never posted on a horents forum if by that agenda you mean some criticism of walker or walker versus lin there is no such content in my comment. which indeed gives “all credit deserved to walker”.

    but just a fact (or at least one set of facts to offer an explanation)–you certainly could make a statistical case otherwise that the primary reason for the advance in walkers effectiveness was due to the absecne of al and not the presence of lin

    however i dont see how that would not be addtionally another “agenda” that would make “you” (me?, who?) look bad.

    ie. making al the target of criticism instead of kemba. (who i didn’t criticize!)

  • Yascar

    Slightly OT – one of my friends who lives in LA and knows I’m a Lin fan remembered that Lake Show Life “writers” Jacob Rude and Valerie Morales used to get my blood boil with their blatant Lin hate. She mentioned today that they no longer write for Lake Show Life and she doesn’t know if they have new gigs elsewhere. I don’t know if they change writers every year, but I skimmed through some recent articles and they seem to be much more balanced.

    Nevertheless, so glad Jeremy is out of LA!

  • Dan Cohen

    I find those people annoying just like those people find me annoying.
    Anyways.. it sounds like ido or maybe ng.

  • Dan Cohen

    if charlotte lose this gmae this whole site will start blaming walker again for 39 points iso.
    But if charlotte lose this game with lin having 39 points, this whole site will probably its other players and coaches and not lin (like lin’s 38 with the spurs in houston). that is way double standard. Give credit to his teammates when credit is due. Walker in and they have doubled deficit, walker in and they came back from his shooting. Without kw, there is no lin showtime in OT. smh. Remember where you came from just like in life.

  • Dan Cohen

    it’s a full OT, not slighly OT.
    hahahaahahaha.

  • Dan Cohen

    should not confuse people with OT for Off Topic when everyone is talkinga bout lin’s OT for Over Time

  • John Focker

    It’s not OT to inform that Lin Haters got served their karmic justice…

  • Dan Cohen

    Too bad they need OT for that.. should be in regular time.

  • Dan Cohen

    But dude.. 14 points is nothing to be elated about..especially most in the OT.. been there done that
    If it was 18 to 21.. especially most in the OT..that will be excited about… missed 1 ft and 1 3 pointers in OT and that wide open layup!. 15 of his 21 points in the late 4th and OT or all in the OT, then that is something to be elated about. That’s why I’m still calm and down.

  • KHuang

    If the refs didn’t hit Lin with tons and tons of bad calls, Lin would be doing Linsanity every game off the bench and throwing the entire NBA out of whack as a bench player.

    Bench players are “not supposed” to dominate – and even the race based refereeing can’t truly prevent Lin from doing that anyway.

    I shudder to think what Lin would’ve done this game had he been properly officiated. My guess: 18 points, 6 apg, Charlotte wins by 30.

  • Yascar

    Ooops sorry I did mean Off Topic rather than Overtime!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Gosh! You have been making really unreasonable assumptions. Purely speculative. Of course you couldn’t be more wrong. Most of us have been really fair to Kemba Walker. Kemba made 5 assists in this game. not like a game with one or zero assist. Kyrie Erving did that. What did LeBron say?
    You are as biased as those Lin hater in making these accusations.
    Who is having double standard? That is you, of course.

  • Dan Cohen

    hahaha I was just playing with ya.. it’s all cool. at least you can take a joke.

  • John Focker

    From the highlights alone I counted five bad calls / non-calls that involved Lin directly or indirectly (Zeller and Lamb).

  • Dan Cohen

    Yo, what is up cousins.??? at 3:05 where cousins was down and when he got up, he sorta pushed lin away and rondo was there to interrupt it???!!!!

  • John Focker

    Rondo was preventing Cousins from getting a technical or worse.

  • KHuang

    As usual, Lin PROTECTED Walker.

  • Dan Cohen

    right..but WHY did cousins sorta pushed away lin..
    is that the norm when playes do that?

  • John Focker

    He’s just acting like himself, personality issue.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You are not a Lin fan. Many people hate Lin because of racial differences. The irrational segment of fan base for many NBA player has existed in every fan base. How about fans of Kobe? You are just like the hungry lion trying to swallow little animals for an excuse. Americans like you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Martin Luther King Jr. died in vain because nothing has changed since his death except the discriminated turned around to be discriminators.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Those are wolves in sheep skin.

  • Joe what do you know

    Let’s put it this way. All of us are Lin fans here. Some are truely devoted to Lin and his causes by practising what he preaches, that is, being humble and modest, avoid conflict when possible (involves possessing high EQ) and gives credits to his teammates and coaches etc. But some certain Lin fans are merely obsessed with Lin himself, as an idol, as a god-like figure.

    It’s often the latter ones that get themselves banned from some “team-oriented” forums with their overzealous comments that basically states “my idol can do no wrong and if he performs poorly it’s all because of (please insert anything here)…..”

    To me, being a fan of someone, I’d like to become the sort of fan that heeds the words of my role model. Because that, to me, is the whole point of having a role model; to walk his walk and talk his talk. Also, I’d like to empower him in reaching out to more people by making more friends rather than creating more enemies. Think about it, if it weren’t for the effort and devotion of some frontline missionaries back then, would Christianity be so wide spread throughout the world today? Of course there would’ve been some bad ones that were “men of God” just by the title.

    But the important thing is if you’re given the chance to choose, would you like to be a true devotee carrying out by action or just a empty shell that carries the name? I leave this question for the people of this website to contemplate…..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Yes the SAC Kings w/o Marcus Cousins was destroyed by this lineup. If Cousins was 100%, the Hornets may lose this game.

  • John Focker

    NBA Power Rankings Week 4 (prior to game vs. Kings)
    http://www.nba.com/2015/news/powerrankings/11/23/week4/

    Hornets rank 14th, Rockets 28th and Lakers 29th. So funny compared to ESPN’s predictions that basically had them backwards.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Kemba has played extremely well tonight not like those nights with little assists. Batum made 8 assists in this game much more than Kemba though.

  • Yellow

    On the Hornets team, I like Marvin Williams as Jeremy’s teammate the most. Frank the Tank is a distant 2nd, and then whoever genuienely friendly toward Jeremy is a distant 3rd…*.*

  • John Focker

    Not really. Hornets would’ve put the Kings away in regulation had refs officiated competently and fairly.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Gosh! You are making a big mistake. Clifford is a darn good coach.

  • Yellow

    Jeremy Lin obviously is Mr. 4th Quarter. I attribute Jeremy’s elite performance in the 4th Quarter to his natural leadership to take it upon himself to win game for his team. Other than that, what attributes one must have to win it all in the final minutes of the game?

  • Yellow

    Spot, I know you’re a huge Jeremy fan. Coach Clifford isn’t a bad coach. He has his hands tied. I think he trusts Jeremy and he put Jeremy the whole 4th Q. That’s trust and to some extent, good coaching to recognise talent.

  • David Kim

    One thing I really like about Lin is his defense. His defense is really awesome. To be a elite player I think they have to be good in both ends of floor. I don’t consider melo and harden as elite player. They are one sided player. They never gonna be no 1 player in championship team. I think Lin will be better in both offense and defense this year. I don’t worry about his shots. It will get better.

  • Rzo Vlade
  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think it’s MW.

  • Dan Cohen

    See some are fair to kw.. like me and I’m not even a fan of kw.. and some like ‘hey’ or some others are not that fair and start bashing kw whenever becasue it’s like they think lin should be the starting pg. It’s a team sport… kw is not like harden.. but kw also have to watch out for his ‘job’ which is secure anwyays and if he doesn’t produce, ppl will know and say sht, so I don’t blame him. The same will go for lin when lin does get the starting gig anywhere. The worst thing is to have certain lin fans instigate that on twitter and start destroying chemistry in the locker room and it’s a vicious circle. It’s a reminder for them. And I”m surprise ido doesn’t even post here but posts on twitter.

  • Yellow

    hips don’t lie..

  • GoodDayLA

    Lin should play PG, Kemba SG. on offense. would be better

  • Wow, what a game. I’m so glad Jeremy played his part in getting the win. He got his chance to shine in OT and he grabbed it with both hands. The man is just fearless, he steps up when the team needs someone to get them across the line. I just want to say that Kemba was terrific this game. That 4th quarter was something else, he got the Hornets back into it and got the crowd buzzing. Great come back win for the Hornets.

    I’ve wrote up an article. Why the one game experiment starting Jeremy Lin didn’t work. http://bit.ly/1NNfCfU

    Hope you all enjoy. I can’t thank you all enough for your support :D.

  • Yellow

    Kemba is a scoring machine but the odd thing is that he couldn’t lead the team to cut the deficit and stage a comeback. Only when Jeremy’s called in on the court did the Hornets slowly but surely turning around…it’s the Hairsanity effect. No doubt.

  • Brent Yen

    Thanks!

  • Spot

    Agree with your article. But Jeremy went cold thru the season but he started on fire.

    I could imagine it’s just he puts too much energy on defence but only him can explain that.

  • Spot

    Agree.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Really surprised & happy to see Cliff finally let Lin run the show in OT. I am sort of glad Rudy G. to tie the game last night. Otherwise there was no show for Lin yesterday.

  • Spot

    Not necessarily. Jeremy cuts better than Kemba. They can share the ball.
    Unfortunately it never happens.

  • Preseason his shot looked so good, hopefully he can find that stroke back soon.

  • Brent Yen

    That was a pass…lol

  • Lin was the man in OT, we can’t forget that 4th quarter performance from Kemba to get the Hornets back into the game. That was some last play from the Kings to get them into over time.

  • Spot

    When there are good shooters on the floor opponents can’t load up on Kemba so he can have great games like this one;

    Batum is one of the best 3 in the NBA. Let him play his position.

    Zeller sets good pick. When Al is in ball is stagnant.

    Kaminsky needs playing time to improve. I was so glad to see Marvin Williams run to Jeremy after every time out.

    Good game by Jeremy. Couple of silly mistakes (the charge on Collison for example) and he has to trust more in his jump shot. He can’t be beaten down every single game.

  • CJSHYY

    Kemba played well in 4Q but it’s also lousy play from starters in 3Q to make them needed to fight so hard in 4Q. I also think Rondo that last pass to Rudy was good.

  • GoodDayLA

    frank or marvin, zeller, kemba, nic, Lin.

    now if coach didd all the time, it wouuld be great.

    the combo of al, nic, kemba, is too much for lin to fight through where clifford makes him the 4th/5th wheel behind those 3.

  • GoodDayLA

    clifford played the right players 2nd half much closer to the right way. Cliff gets it,,, I think. well i hope.

  • KHuang

    Great post

  • KHuang

    There’s no such thing as “one game as a starter didn’t work” for Lin when his team easily beat the lowly Sixers without the customary BEATDOWN the starters experience EVERY SINGLE GAME.

  • KHuang

    Unlike anybody in the Hornets starting lineup, Lin DOES NOT PANIC in crunchtime.

    Lin doesn’t abandon the offense for selfish iso play the way the starters do.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    For the first time this entire season, Coach Clifford didn’t leave an underperforming Hawes out there to wreck Lin and the bench like Hawes usually does.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    Lin will play for sure.

    Kaminsky and Zeller probably will because they’re active defensively and actually run plays unlike the other starters.

  • Yep, that was me. I appreciated this wise and thoughtful post from a fellow ‘Andrew’!

  • KHuang

    Absolutely Lin will close.

    He IS the Charlotte defense.

  • I felt Coach Cliff experimented with Lin as the starting SG against the 76ers while it was low risk since the other team are so poor. He could have put Lamb as the starter instead of Lin. While it was only for one game, the Hornets didn’t utilise Lin in the right manner.

  • KHuang

    Actually, they’re doing just fine with Lin at SG and Walker at PG.

    When Lin spaces the court with SG cuts and siphons the defenses away from Walker, it’s on Walker to ATTACK especially if he’s “guarded” by a useless defender like Rajon Ron-o (no D).

    Then when opponents finally get sick of Walker torching them, they’ll load up on Walker and then Lin takes over.

  • KHuang

    Disagree.

    The SG’s job in halfcourt sets is to space the court with intelligent cuts and put pressure on the defense by moving without the ball.

    Lin DID THAT, and that’s why the starters essentially won the game in the first 10 minutes with Lin as starter.

  • LOL .. so graphic

  • Acbc

    It’s called being in the zone. Anyone that has played sports at any reasonably high level has provably experienced it.at least once. It’s elusive and otherworldly. This is why the Greeks invented the Olympics. They believe that when athletes enter this state, they are nearly godlike. Unlike us, sport was almost a religious experience that created a stage for humans to experience that “mana”. Lin has that uncanny ability of o call it forth when a Superman is needed, like he’d go into a phone booth somewhere to change identity. We call him mr. 4th quarter because he does it all the time.

    If you’re interested read a book called “Entering the Zone, exploring the spiritual dimensions of sports”. By Andrew Cooper.

  • Yes I agree that’s the SG job but Lin’s game is compromised hugely. Coach Clifford and Lin said he understood Lin’s game. I obviously expect Kemba to have more of the ball than Lin but against the 76ers Lin hardly even had the chance to run a play. When Batum plays SG he gets to run plays for himself and team. I was just curious as to why Lin didn’t get much of an opportunity.

  • sws94

    That’s true but there were bad calls/non-calls on all of the Charlotte team. Kemba getting hit, Frank blatantly getting hit on a layup and Batum on a putback and more. The refs just did a bad job but I guess the game was so physical, they swallowed the whistle. But some of the non-calls were unacceptable.

  • sws94

    I’m elated that after a frustrating game and one where Kemba was the man, Lin was the star of the OT. I don’t think Lin had a particularly good game in regulation although his defense was a key factor in it. Offensively, Lin didn’t really have a going until OT. He did score 5 big points in the 4th.

  • Chopz

    Theres a saying that goes: “i hate to lose more than i like to win” – many star athletes have this attitude and have said so such as jimmy connors, larry bird, chris paul, charles barkely, etc. I believe Jeremy posseses this attribute. He has shown time and again in big games, that in the end, he refuses to lose, everything goes out the window and there are no consequences in his mind. He will not surrender, its just him and the basket, “Lin, lose, or draw.”

  • sws94

    I think Lin’s role is pretty defined and consistent. Lin was shuffled to the starting role only after 2 key players were down and thankfully Cody was back in this game or the Hornets don’t win it. Lin comes in very late in the 1Q and 3Q and plays most or all of the 2Q and 4Q. He usually closes close games. He has some overlap with Kemba and then plays PG and has Batum and/or Williams with him in the 2nd unit. At some time Kemba may come back and he slides to SG. There are a lot of Batum/Lin/Kemba on the floor too where Lin can be inbounder and floor spacer. He plays D on PGs and SGs and is counted on to play tough D. If another PG comes on to play other than Kemba, Roberts, then Lin switches to SG. That’s pretty consistently Lin’s usage.

  • Spot

    I’m all in! Oops, I mean All Lin !! 😀

  • Something I noticed watching the highlights a second time is how Lin’s and-1 in OT was helped by having the right screens. You first have Kaminsky set a screen, and then you have Zeller set a screen, and then you have Zeller kind of set a screen (he more kind of walked around getting in opponents’ way as Lin zig-zagged around), and then Lin get the layup-and-1.

    I think this helps me see how Lin’s game gets so much improved when he has bigs doing their jobs properly.

    https://youtu.be/yVOfR6vwll8?t=601

  • sws94

    I don’t agree. Kemba is fine as PG. Lin can perhaps facilitate a little more, but the team is effective with Kemba running PG and he’s playing quite well at PG the past few games. When Kemba and Batum play Batum also facilitates. I think offensively, Clifford is still trying to work Lin in more with Kemba and Batum and also Al if he’s on with Al. It’ll take time.

  • sws94

    I don’t see where Lin cuts better. Kemba cuts well too. Both could do it more.

    Right now, Kemba is playing like an all-star. He not only is scoring, but he’s doing reasonably well at assists and he varies the way he scores or gets the ball to his team mates.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    Al and Lin are two different positions. Maybe Cody Zeller had an impact too, or Frank. Big men open up things for guards as well. If you put it in a team context, say how other players can free up Kemba then I think you’ll be well received. I think we all have to be careful, myself included, to not have an overfocus on Lin and give other players on his team credit where due.

  • David Kim

    Hawes doesn’t set screen properly for Lin.

  • KHuang

    The Charlotte Hornets are not all about Lin.

    Besides, Lin GOT HIS that game.

  • Clifford will be on WFNZ radio interview

    https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/669189767406317568

  • KHuang

    Hey RICH CHO.

    Trade Spencer Hawes for Steve Novak.

    Novak is a tougher defender, smarter player, and better shooter than Hawes.

  • james brown

    i like the way it was reported:

    “Walker was excellent in the fourth with 19 points, including three
    3-pointers, something we rarely see from him. He also finished with 5
    assists in his 47-minute night. However, this is fool’s gold expecting
    him to be this good each night. He didn’t play any differently than in
    other nights, except being faster thanks to a lineup that enabled that.
    The Hornets will do well when they play the right basketball with the
    right lineups, which includes Lin and Batum next to each other and Lin
    dominant on the ball, with options for outside shooting; not by letting
    Walker go wild and hoping for the best.”

  • kittyhead

    I dont understand why the Kings didnt try to get Lin…though I dont like Cousins at all. lol
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/669183623984123904

  • CaliUSMC

    he sucks

  • Phillycheese

    Well someone used that exact word “catalyst” on RealGM or ATH, can’t remember which forum. Lin helped but there were 2 other bench players along with him.

  • Chopz

    His role has only really been consistent in the last 3 or 4 games where he’s finally been given more minutes and fully closing out 4th quarters. Clifford used to yank him out, put him back in, yank him out in the 4th.

  • CaliUSMC

    I just watched full highlights of Lin. Did cousins really push Lin after he got called for a blocking foul? lol w0w

  • David Kim

    That’s good trade…Lin will get more assists. More space to drive in for Lin with good shooter outside.

  • Dan Cohen

    if cus is there, chem problems and also it’s gm’s who gets players kittyhead

  • Phillycheese

    Stirring hate might be strong. But definitely taking this opportunity to rub it in. Not sure if it is real fandom or pretend. But it is certainly postings to fan the flames so to speak. No need to rub it in when Lin has a good game. Been there done that, act like it’s the norm. One can be happy for Lin without tearing the other players down.

  • Dan Cohen

    His name is David Kim.
    And whatever happen to novakiano these days.

  • CJSHYY

    This report from where? I like this statement — The Hornets will do well when they play the right basketball with the right lineups, which includes Lin and Batum next to each other and Lin dominant on the ball…

  • kjch

    Yup I saw that as well ~ instantly dislike him

  • Rick Johnson

    Needs a PnR big. Like Andre Drummond. Ed Davis good too but I think too small to guard some of the bigger bigs in the league like DeAndre, Memphis.

  • it’s from the sportige link a couple posts below.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I saw that too..It was pretty funny but also shows Cousin’s immaturity…He acted like Jeremy knocked him down on purpose and shoved him as he was walking by…Jeremy was kind of puzzled by the whole event.

  • CJSHYY

    I have not read the article yet…LOL!

  • Phillycheese

    Questionable refereeing all night. That charge on the two-on-one was a blatant miss. On the long pass out to Lin to go one-on-one, he was fouled but they gave him a missed shot. Even on that layup in overtime, Rondo grabbed him as he ran past, should have been an and1.

  • CJSHYY

    I hate ref… just never gave Lin the credit. smh!

  • Phillycheese

    Lin is stronger than he looks, ran right over a 285lb Cuz. If Cuz wasn’t in the restricted area it would have been called a charge by those sucky refs.

  • Chopz

    If you were calm and down after this game, then your missing the picture. We know lin didn’t do well offensively in many parts of the game, but he did well defensively, and when the game was on the line, he took over. All the reasons you mentioned are exactly why Lin fans are ecstatic about this win. Basically have a bad game offensively, and still will your team to victory in the end. This is what an underdog is, this is what movies are made of – the struggle, the battle, the failures and then the victory, it’s all about the journey.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Not as good as Zeller.

  • KHuang

    Off the court, Lin and Cousins are actually acquaintances at worst.

    They have played together in informal summer workouts at UCLA.

    Cousins probably lashed out because Lin aggravated Cousins’ bad back on that drive.

    It’s OK – what happens on the court stays on the court.

  • Acbc

    Before the preseason, there was talk already about how bad a shooter Walker was from his pass 2 seasons. I tried to tell everyone to just be patient and wait till Lin gets on the floor with him. My reason was simple. Kemba had no one else to rely on. Even this year with the addition of Batum, he was still the focus of the team defence. Once Lin steps on the court with him, the effect is immediate. The defence has to shift to Lin and all of a sudden Walker has time to do his thing. It’s not rocket science. I’ve coached and know well how one player can change the offence an defensive schemes.

    Walker or his fans may not want to admit it, but sure as heck, he wants Lin on the floor with him.

  • Phillycheese

    When Lin hit Cuz I think he really hit him because you could see Lin’s head snap back. But when Lamb ran into Cuz on that charging call, I think Cuz flopped like a fish out of water.

  • Chopz

    I agree with you, but on that 2 on 1 it was a foul on lin. Even after you pass it, if you come down on someone, it’s a foul. I hated the crap out of that call, but it was correct.

  • KHuang

    Lin is not a King because their ownership and management don’t know a good guard when they see one.

    Two seasons ago, the Kings had Jimmer Fredette who was AVERAGING 49% from BOTH the 2 and 3. But they ejected Fredette despite Fredette being the Kings’ best and most impactful player.

  • KHuang

    Before the season started, I wrote on this forum that Kemba Walker plays like the All Star of All Stars against inferior defenders.

    This game, Walker faced one of the worst and most wildly overrated “defenders” in Rajon Ron-o (no D).

    Then you add Lin putting extreme pressure on the defense with his relentless SG movement off the ball and no wonder Walker AND Lin exploded late!

  • Phillycheese

    The defender mirrored Lin and moved sideways away from the ball. Normally a defender would have moved with the ball, but he had no chance and sold the charge. Good play by the defender, fooled the ref.

  • KHuang

    Both Lin and Lamb are BIG STRONG guards that can injure anybody they fly into.

  • Phillycheese

    No idea why Ben McLemore sat. He should have defended Lin in the fourth.

  • KHuang

    I know that –

    I’m just putting out a generic siren for Rich Cho just like I did in Summer 2012 when I requested that he pick up Lin, Lamb, and Hansbrough.

  • KHuang

    Both Kaminsky and Hansbrough (ESPECIALLY Hansbrough) can eventually be that big.

    A properly utilized Hansbrough alongside Lin would be a 20-10 player in 30 mpg, better than Drummond or Aldridge or Griffin or any big man around.

  • KHuang

    Had McLemore “guarded” Lin, Lin would’ve went off in the 4th even more than he did and there would have been no overtime!

    Lin FEASTS on young inexperienced guards who don’t have the veteran savvy to read Lin’s trickstering.

  • Chopz

    Walker has already admitted before the season that Lin being there takes the pressure off of him.

  • sws94

    Clifford usually plays Lin most of the 4th. If he’s out and in it depends on matchups and that’s not unusual for any basketball player. Lin has a consistent role.

  • sws94

    I don’t think the 76ers game is that important. They are a terrible team and Clifford was trying different lineups and matchups. You can toss that one aside, it wasn’t a typical game. The Sacramento game is back to the norm.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    That’s the key. Lin moved a lot off ball. When Lin moves off-ball it opens a lot up. Lin in the corner not moving helps the other team.

  • kjch

    Hmm I think it’s more a case of cousins being weaker than he looks lol.

  • Rick Johnson

    Also looks like Rondo got between them to break it up.

  • ICYMI JLin interview with Kiss 95.1 radio yesterday
    – iPhone guy,
    – what MJ might think of his Adidas shoes
    – Thanksgiving favorite meal,
    – Hairgel

  • Rick Johnson

    Should get the NBA Officials report today. Usually comes out in the afternoon.

    http://official.nba.com/

  • CJSHYY

    Interesting question… what MJ might think o his Adidas shoes?

  • kjch

    Any predictions on what JLins final hairstyle is going to be? Could it be dreadlocks?!?!

  • Acbc

    When Lin fans go to other sites please observe a very simple rule and its as simple as this. Don’t go to a friend’s wedding and start telling people that your wife is more beautiful than the bride. You’re wife may be a swimsuit model but no one will agree with you because you’re just being an insensitive know it all. Even if it’s truth, it doesn’t give you the right to say it. THE HORNETS ARE MARRIED TO KEMBA FOR NOW, GET OVER IT.

  • sws94

    There’a big weight difference, 200 vs. 285 lb. Cousins wasn’t moving his feet, easy call. One of refs got right but they got a lot wrong or didn’t make many.

  • Chopz

    Earlier in the season, Lin would get into games earlier and get pulled out midway thru the second quarter. Now Lin, gets in near the end of the first and plays all of the second. Just that right there is different. Also against Philly, he got the start. It’s a work in progress, but most people that have been watching know that Lin in the last 3 or 4 games finally got substantial minutes. Just last week, most of us on this forum were complaining about Lin’s lack of minutes. If you mean Lin’s has gotten consistently low minutes, then you are correct. I’m saying he just recently got consistently higher minutes.

  • kjch

    P.s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46neNgxv_RQ. Doesn’t seem like anyone has posted part 2 here yet

  • Dan Cohen

    hahaha, I was making a corny joke.

  • KHuang

    Kemba Walker is PLAYING GREAT.

    I’m Kemba Walker’s biggest hater, but I LOVE the way he’s playing when Lin’s protecting him.

    If Kemba Walker can maintain this level of play alongside Lin, I’m happy with Walker as the starter.

    Besides, I never saw it as “Lin vs Walker”. I always saw it more as “Lin vs Batum” when Charlotte had the cockamanie idea of starting Batum at SG.

    Right now it appears to me that Hairston is the token starter and Lin is the “closing SG” in the 2nd half.

  • KHuang

    It’ll be as unpredictable as Clifford’s closing lineups.

  • Chopz

    “but I LOVE the way he’s playing when Lin’s protecting him.” – wink wink

  • sws94

    I think you’re nitpicking now. Earlier in the season was earlier in the season and a lot of players other than the starting 5 were going in and out. If you were to take each individual player, even the starters, you’ll find variations from game to game because game situations change, how they perform change, the matchups change, which units are effective against other units change, and sometimes a bench player may be inserted with the starters or the other way round and work out and a coach will go with that. You can only look for some general ways a player is used to go by. It won’t be exactly the same every game.

    The bottom line is Clifford is going to go with the guys he thinks are going to help them win or combo of guys in a particular game. A lot of the time, Lin has been one of the guys. And even when Lin hasn’t played great, Clifford put him in the end of games to finish and Lin has responded mostly well.

  • wu kong

    ON OFF Def Off and Net Rtgs through 14 games…

  • sws94

    it was. but that’s ok.

  • Dan Cohen

    Very realistic and logical and excellent analogy. It’s better than me and someone else trying to post 10000 comments to tone it down with saying your wife is better than the bride. You can whisper to your wife..but don’t go stand on a chair and yell ‘hey, my wife is better looking than the bride..I don’t know what all the fuss is about’… everyone there (analogy to hornet’s team and fan) will stare at you and smirk at you, because you just did a kanye west!. You look like cr-p.(analogy to Ido). You look like you need mental help. Even if it’s true, you don’t do that as that is ruining the whole party (analogy to hornet’s team and forums).

  • Dan Cohen

    and also needless to say, you (lin fans) and your wife (jlin) will be targets by others in the party.

  • Dan Cohen

    what about his jlin foundation on every thanksgiving?

  • Rick Johnson

    Game flow for SAC vs CHA

    Shows dramatic turnaround when Kaminsky, Zeller, Lin come in in the 4th quarter

    http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151123&game=SACCHA

  • kjch

    Lol.. Trying to picture him with iverson dreadlocks. Going to be interesting……

  • pandaboy99

    From Zach Lowe Article things he likes and doesnt like:

    8. New York fans, booing Jeremy Lin

    I will never understand this. The B.K. (Before Kristaps) Knicks have been
    exciting for like 50 games over the past 15 years, and Linsanity was
    the main attraction in most of them. The Knicks never made Lin an offer
    in free agency; like a lot of teams, they told Lin to draw an offer
    sheet and planned to match it.

    We know what happened next: Lin
    signed a funky three-year deal with Houston that included an untenable
    balloon payment in Year 3. Is that Lin’s fault? I suppose any player is
    complicit in the structuring of his contract, and some New York fans
    felt jilted when Lin decided against playing through a knee injury
    during the 2012 playoffs.

    But this is the kind of stuff that
    happens when you nudge a player into the market without understanding
    all the cap ramifications, and Lin did the very human thing by securing
    as much money as possible for himself.

    It just feels as if everyone should get over this and celebrate a unique, feel-good moment in sports history.

  • Chopz

    I think you’re nitpicking. Now earlier in the season is earlier in the season? Who’s picking and choosing “when” to include playing time and/or minutes? You said consistency, so we talked about consistency. You can’t pick and choose what best suits you? Count everything. We know Clifford is experimenting with this roster, so be it. I didn’t say it was wrong, but definitely not consistent for the full season so far. Even Al Jefferson and Kemba Walker didn’t finish some games, and they’re starters.

  • Rick Johnson

    Zeller’s on / off was much better in the last game. Surprised he’s the lowest for the season so far though.

  • wu kong

    ON OFF for single Game 11/23

  • sws94

    There’s nothing inconsistent about going with the lineups that work. Inconsistent is having vastly different roles every few weeks or so. Lin’s role has been the same and what’s happening is the natural variations that happens with coach’s and personnel regarding what is working on the floor at any given time. Lin is being used in a consistent way compared to the Lakers and Rockets and his role is expanding in a natural way. He’s in a good situation. Not ideal. But good.

  • sws94

    They were good natured boos. I had no problems with the Knicks fans booing Lin this far from 2012. When he first came back they cheered him but started booing him in the game when he torched the Knicks. They boo the enemy and he’s not wearing a Knick uniform. They booed other Hornets too. Get a thicker skin, it’s no big deal.

  • wu kong

    third quarter they lost the game… 4th Q and OT they won the game…amazing graphics… I love popcornmachine!

  • Chopz

    “There’s nothing inconsistent about going with the lineups that work.”

    That’s exactly the point, the hornets are 8-6, it’s only 2 games above .500 because Clifford played Lin the most minutes he has this season. Their record could’ve been at least slightly better if Clifford went with the lineups that “did” work. Like Pj hairston starting, that’s just a waste of time for everybody.

  • KHuang

    Knick fans don’t hate Lin.

    It’s the NY tabloids that hate Lin.

    They keep citing Lin as a terrible influence and player even though Lin didn’t play an entire season and was kicked off the Knicks for playing too well.

  • KHuang

    But the NY tabloids?

    That’s DIFFERENT.

    There are so many Knicks who played longer and did harm to the Knicks much worse than Lin did, but Lin gets singled out because of his RACE.

    I am from NY, so I know how Asians are HATED over there.

  • KHuang

    Actually, there’s no need for me to go elsewhere to write that because Hornets fans themselves write the exact same thing!

  • wu kong

    and taking Melo’s limelight

  • GoodDayLA

    Cho is said to be close family friend of Hawes family. No way this happens

  • CJSHYY
  • golfhacker

    Of course the Lin haters will conveniently ignore stuff like this.

  • KHuang

    Corny joke –

    That’s how I felt too in 2012 when I wrote that the Bobcats should offer Lin the full four year max RFA, draft Lamb #2 overall over MKG who I accurately predicted would be a draft bust, and pick up Tyler Hansbrough to be Lin’s enforcer!

  • sws94

    I’m from NY too. I know how the Asian kids were treated in school and on playgrounds. Until they fought back.

    I think Knicks fans booing were more them booing a former Knick on another team.

    The media? Do you remember American beats Kwan to get the gold.
    Michelle Kwan is AMERICAN.

  • GoodDayLA

    Al Jefferson sat which is why Lin has aces to move. With the fake big 3 Lin is rendered useless by coach.

  • JoeTeam

    Little Rascals haircut now I like it!

  • sws94

    The winning 3 will become Kemba/Batum/Lin, Al will fade out of the big 3 and I think he knows that. Al is trying to be a team player. The actually clutch 2 are Kemba and Lin though, I don’t think Batum is clutch.

  • Chopz

    We call that the Stephen A. Smith effect.

  • Rick Johnson

    You can see in the 3rd trying to stem the tide he first takes out Hariston for Lamb, doesn’t work, Then Zeller for Jefferson, doesn’t work, then Kaminsky for Williams goes sideways. Once Lin in the tide is turned back and they go on to win.

  • JoeTeam

    now that’s social wisdom!

    unless the person is trying to be a boar at the wedding … it happens, speak now or forever hold your peace.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree that boo was for he’s no longer a NYK. Not really big deal. But NY media just love Lin so… W Lin, always can get attention. LOL!

  • Acbc

    Wow!
    Thanks for this info. Shocking how the numbers show what an effect Lin has. CHO is supposed to be an analysis guy. I wonder if the FO will choose to recognize these stats or will they stay with the status quo.

  • blubell
  • blubell
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    What’s up with Jeremy’s wearing earrings?…Would Jesus piece his earlobe and get Women earrings if he were still walking this earth?

    My fear is Lin is starting to adopt un christian stuff…maybe that is why God has removed the Linsanity skill from him…I believe Linsanity was influenced by God…But when Jeremy started doing stuff Jesus wouldn’t do, his Linsanity power slowly started evaporating.

    Jeremy needs to come back to God so he can have Linsanity again…That means get rid of the women earrings and the rock n roll hairdo too.

  • Wandais38 .

    LOL!! he had his ears pierced before linsanity.

  • blubell
  • blubell

    Which mama Lin did not like… lol.

  • NONONO

    It could be the timing he got into the game. I think he usually got into the game at late 1st quarter or 3rd quarter which usually Hornets performed the worst so far this season. He did well in last game because he played all 4st quarter and OT when Hornets won by about 22 pts during that period.

  • wu kong

    He had some terrible game in the beginning… could be due to the dehydration issues??? that cumulatively he is working out off that hole… but his def numbers are always pretty bad…

  • kjch

    Hmm not sure if your comment is serious or not lol…

  • wu kong

    this. is. ridiculous. please stop.

  • kjch

    Wonder how he’s going to deal with porzingis

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    That’s how Lin’s shot looked in warmups before the Knick game. He hit most of them. But missed them in the game.

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh, that’s why he was out. Good for him.

  • Rick Johnson

    Shot seems okay there. Small sample size though.

  • wu kong

    circumstances are different Porzingis was drafted.. Lin not. I am sure melo had some input into the draft of Porzingis so approved from beginning. A LOT of JLIN hate is from the fact that he was NEVER a part of the NBA system. In any field when someone comes from out of nowhere and shows people up that have been there for decades people get embarrassed for not seeing the potential and for not having a hand in the grooming of the potential and most importantly the $$$ and fame that goes with that process. JLin did not fit anyone’s mold and was not on anyone’s radar and that tends to make people uncomfortable.

    hence the flash in the pan stuff even to this day…and for so many people their ego is attached to proving that it was a fluke.

  • wu kong

    same for the game on 11/15 pregame looked great. I still think his uptick in defense is hurting his shot.

  • NONONO

    I think is it is hair issue. He needs to have the same hair (look, weight, height, and so on) on and off the court to make the shots consistent. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I think he’s OK bc last night he did make some shots finally.

  • spiderman

    Jesus also hung out with prostitutes and other “sinners”, but condemned the Pharisees of that time.
    We need to be careful to not be a Pharisee

  • BobbyH

    The last 3 pointer that Lin shot in 4Q, it seemed to be new form, with quick release and smooth. No hesitation or wait.

  • Acbc

    You’ve watched the game long enough to know that players perform at an optimum speed and level. We still haven’t seen the best of Lin yet, Kemba however is a fine support level player that can perform well when he’s given time and space. It’s a commodity he hasn’t had for a few years because opposing teams load up on him. Kemba just doesn’t have the speed and quickness to create enough spacing to make himself and others shine at the same time. With Lin on the floor, the defence must shift attention away or be run over by the Lin fright train carry the rest of the team behind him. Karl knows that all too well and he has said in the past and last night.

    Karl will give Walker 30+ points but he’ll take that trade any day. Look how they lost to the Knicks with 13 ast. And Walker scoring over 30. Karl will gladly trade that for the Lin express. When that freight train comes through, Lin brings a team load of guys scoring over 10 points. That train doesn’t just bring in points, it brings along vibe, excitement and positive energy that can overcome an opposing team.

  • wu kong

    FYI Interview with Kaminsky… asking for questions…
    https://twitter.com/TheFanchise_/status/669222614615855106

  • sws94

    Yes. That’s why opposing coaches fear Lin and try to keep him, well, from having the ball. It’s not only his scoring they fear.

  • FreetheMind

    MW is a great teammate and he and Lin really do seem to get along. Kemba really gets along with Lin too. MW is also a good player who can knock down the 3s. He does remind us of Jefferies from the Knicks days.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    He didn’t hang out with prostitute as a form of support of their lifestyle…He tried to bring them to his side and get them to stop doing what they were doing since it was a sin…So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

  • I’ve been thinking the same way 🙂
    IF “Practice makes perfect”, then JLin should gel up his hair during practice so he’s fully in the same groove during practice and games!

  • sport

    Agree, like dressing up for work makes you more awake.

  • sport

    Lets hope JLin’s finally out of the shooting slump. Got to take more shots.

  • blubell

    Are we all going to ignore how adorkable Zeller is at the beginning of the video? lol.

  • CJSHYY

    He seemed to shoot better compare to 2 or 3 games before last night…. not worry.

  • heart

    Agree. Lin makes others around him better.

  • DX

    Right on the money!

  • blubell

    It wasn’t a problem during preseason though…

  • DX

    can you tell Lin this great suggestion?

  • sws94

    I’m going to throw away the SG and PG stuff.

    I think of Kemba as a scoring guard that sometimes facilitates. He’s a good rebounder too. I think he’s a better bring the ball up the court and dribble around guy that passes it off rather than a floor general that sets up plays. When he’s shooting well, he scores well.

    I think of Lin as a energy creator for all of his team that often starts with his scoring. If he’s scoring he then opens it up for lobs to guys and hitting cutters, but he’s really a PnR guy and a dribble/penetrator creator. If someone else is pressured handling the ball and gets it to Lin, he has to expend much less energy.

    Batum is the scorer/creator too, but he doesn’t have the energy of Lin bolt of Lin. He can make great passes at times and is a good CnS player, but he also makes bad passes, more than Lin does. He too is counted on to create.

    So those are the 3 main facilitators on the team and 2 of them are looked on as big scorers. Lin is looked on as getting timely hoops, sometimes clutch hoops, but his energy, commitment to defense, hustle, and making big timely plays that causes time outs distinguishes him some from his team mates.

    From there it’s a balancing act between Kemba, Lin and Batum. It’s easier when Lin is off the court or Kemba isn’t. Lin brings the ball up without Kemba and Batum alternates with Lin in facilitating, though LIn does more of it. Wth Kemba, Batum does more facilitating, Kemba does a lot of having the ball and scoring while Lin has to figure out how to fit in and pick his spots to attack and score or facilitate.

  • DX

    The strength of preseason can’t compare to the really game.

  • sws94

    It’s not the hair.

  • blubell

    that’s my point 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think it’s hair more like his body bc his private massager flied from Taiwan to NC last week… Lo wouldn’t fly all the way to NC just for the games.

  • blubell

    The Great Hair Debate 😛

  • DX

    When Lin and Kemba together, Lin is taller and stronger than Kemba, so he can do better D vs. SG. Since spend lot energy on D, he better to avoid handle the ball too much. If Lin plays with 2nd unit, he can do PG since the D side won’t be too heavy.

  • KHuang

    Good post.

    When I think of “PG”, I think of a designated “1” in a prearranged X-O halfcourt set.

    Just because Walker occupies the 1 position does not mean he should focus on passing. If he’s able to score especially when Lin is at the 2 facilitating, he should attack.

    Now if opponents finally decide to start guarding Walker like in overtime, it’s on the Hornets to get to ball to other open players like Lin but not exclusively Lin.

  • KHuang

    Not necessarily.

    When Lin is playing with the 2nd unit, Spencer Hawes’ inadequacies on both ends of the court will wear Lin out physically since Lin compensates for Hawes’ weaknesses.

    If Clifford simply sat Hawes and played Kaminsky in Hawes’ minutes, that would improve Lin’s offensive performances with the 2nd team.

    With the starters, Lin is appropriately a low usage SG glue guy.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    I was the MEANEST TOUGHEST kid who fought back relentlessly in NY.

    I didn’t back down from anybody.

    I experienced far more racism from older generation NYers than I did from people of my generation.

  • KHuang

    I was the MEANEST TOUGHEST kid who fought back relentlessly in NY.

    I didn’t back down from anybody.

    I experienced far more racism from older generation NYers than I did from people of my generation. Those are the ones writing hate articles in the NY tabloids.

  • KHuang

    The only Charlotte Hornet that the team absolutely cannot win without is Jeremy Lin.

  • Acbc

    Your comment is why people don’t like “Christians.” How would you know what God would or wouldn’t like. Why would you even think you could understand God? You’re way of seeing or understanding of God is your own personal and intimate way. How you dress or interact with people you meet or interact with is dependant on your life and experience. You should try to make those people you are trying to “save” as comfortable with you as possible. If you work with inner city kids don’t go there with a brooks brother taylor suit and swag in like a million bucks. Lin is dressed to be part of the community he has to thrive in. His outward appearance is only there like a warm handshake, it helps to gain him acess to people that would otherwise shut him out.

    Christians need to understand others and not judge others by how they dress or present themselves. To “stand under” means to walk in their shoes and be a part of their experience.

    Lin’s action as a Christian speaks much louder than his words, or appearances. There’s a lot of perfectly dressed bankers who’d happily steal your money dressed to the nines. They go to church on the weekend and pretend to be perfect Christians. Lin walks the walk of love and forgiveness. When people step all over him he tries very hard not to judge them and tries even harder to be their friends.

    Being a good Christian isn’t how you appear or how you dress, it’s how you live the gospel.

  • DX

    No Lin, No win. Maybe except Lakers. ;D

  • DX

    There are some advantages when Lin play SG with starters. Beside the D improved, Lin will attract the D from opponents since they know Lin’s O ability. So that will make other teammates much easier. That was one major reason why Kemba like pairing with Lin. That’s why Cliff insisted keeping Lin on court. Of course, I want Lin play PG and handling the ball.

  • Hope

    Lol, now I believe that will happen.

  • sws94

    This is interesting if he doesn’t start. Cliff can go Lin at the 2 to start or Lamb. But both will probably get more minutes. Lin could possibly get 32 plus if Nic can’t play.

  • KHuang

    No, Lakers couldn’t win without Lin either.

    They artificially limited his minutes in favor of nonAsian nonproducers who caused the team to lose.

  • KHuang

    As long as Lin receives touches, I’d prefer him at SG because this Hornets team desperately needs Lin’s traditional 2 guard cuts and skillset to prevent ball stoppage.

  • wandertheglobe

    Like the Warriors needed any extra motivation tonight. If I were BS, I would be worried about not getting fired by Xmas.

    Byron Scott: Showtime Lakers would "absolutely" beat current Warriors in seven-game series https://t.co/oWDHEgxy9Q— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) November 24, 2015

  • Al

    Lin shooting much better with gel on his hair?

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Tonight is going to be ugly. LOL!

  • Rick Johnson

    Warriors favored by 17 in Las Vegas. Will probably be worse than that.

  • LinMad

    Lin will probably get to start again cause starters need a stronger defender

  • CJSHYY

    NBA probably will ask GSW don’t let Lakers looks too bad. LOL!

  • Steppen03

    Hellooo fellow Lin fans =)
    We have to make a Statement now (not for others but to ourselves) – GRAB the next 3 games, continue the mini-run with Wins over the Wiz, Cavs, and Bucks will go a long way. We Can do this!

  • DX

    Is BS’s “beat” meaning “Basketball‘?:D

  • LinMad

    After watching the Lin highlights in the featured post, you can tell Lin was playing defense really well when his shots weren’t going down. He played defense well the entire game.I don’t know why some people said Lin didn’t play D well the first half, he did.

  • Steppen03

    Still living in the past, the Lakers are. That’s all there is for ’em… Sad. Really sad. All they have to show for is Kobe’s yesterday years.

  • DX

    I meant vs. Lakers.

  • Acbc

    As if they don’t have enough motivation already! What a jack donkey of a coach, it’s always about him. Smh, he’s just disrespected MJ and the Bulls, Lebron and every team in the league for being charmin soft.

  • got it. Asked Cody Zeller for help so teammates can ask JLin to gel up his hair during practice.
    They’ll love to tease Lin about it

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/669256746880253952

  • 1mtoldman

    “yesterday when i was young”

    “those were the day my friend/we thought they’d never end”

    “oh we wont give in/well keep living in the past”.

  • DX

    Awesome!

  • 1mtoldman

    actually lin had an equally dramatic effect on lakers record wise with his abscence of presence of minutes over his average as he did on rockets.

    its just that with the rockets it was the difference between 1 and 8 seed; with lakers it was the difference between tanking to the dp or not.

  • 1mtoldman

    oh yeah i see sorry we both misinterpret your point.

  • DX

    No worry!

  • Rick Johnson

    I just hope they don’t fire Byron Scott and Kobe keeps playing until at least 12/28 when the play the Hornets and preferably 1/31 when they play the Hornets in LA. I’m hoping for >20 pt beat downs.

  • jakey

    Lin thought Kemba was the basketball lol jk

  • JoeTeam

    I gotcha it was funny.

  • CJSHYY
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL JLin! Literally a 3 years old child behavior after dentist appointment:-)
    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/669258526330523648

  • blubell

    Haha. I hope his dentist is not on twitter.

  • Sophie Paris

    Hahaha well said !

  • Sophie Paris

    Popcorn ready lol

  • Game 14 Poll Results
    We have a LOT of winners for this Game 14.
    For the 1st time, we have an exact match of the stat this season so @CJSHYY:disqus , our defending champ, earned an extra 0.5 point due to its degree of difficulty. But @gojlintx and jakeyy increased their wins to #4.

    I forgot to vote so don’t wait for too late 🙁

    (refresh for pic of leaderboard)

    14p/3a vs SAC
    (14/3) @cjshyy #3.5 (0.5 bonus for exact stat)
    (15/3) @gojlintx #4
    (13/4) @jakeyy #4
    (Hairsanity!) @blubell#3, @nitron #2, @juanlegend, @acbc, @sog117 #3, @jlim7

  • Joe what do you know

    As much as I would like to be optimistic, Wiz and Bucks are possible…. Cav will prove a bit hard. Nevertheless, if the Hornets really beat the Cav, I will have no doubt in my mind that they would be capable of snatching one of the middle seeds in the Eastern Conference Playoff….

  • Joe what do you know

    Byron Scott is on cracks for sure. I’d give the matchup a stalemate at most. Showtime Lakers has the size advantage in Magic and Worthy being 6’9″ and Kareem being 7’2″ with Skyhook. But their overall athleticism and team 3pt shooting ability will become their pitfall against the current Warriors. And I’m speaking as a Kareem fan since my childhood…

  • jeremy

    take this in
    Clifford and tom thib were in Houston with Yao Ming
    what a small world

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Major complaint to @psalm234: Not fair with the vote of Hairsanity since it doesn’t give any number. This gives any likely “insanity” event to be the “vote.” Believe it should give a “definition” on what is considered as “Hairsanity.” What I’m trying to say is “Hairsanity” is so easy to win the poll as those voters that voted exact number. I want a “fairness” in the poll.

  • blubell

    Yes! Hairsanity #3!

  • Linzen

    I’m so gonna watch this game tonight. wahahaha

  • CJSHYY

    Thanks. So glad Rudy Gay made that shot to have OT… LOL!

  • CaliUSMC

    Does lin even drink alcohol?

  • blubell

    Yes.

  • Dan Cohen

    and???

  • Steppen03

    They can and they will. I’ve been saying since the beginning – If CCliff is a really good coach (which I don’t doubt he can be given that he brought this franchise to 7th seed just two seasons ago) and he knows how to maximize Lin with Kemba, Batum, Al – no doubt, we will be Top 4 team in EC.

  • I’ve been thinking “Hairsanity” might happen a lot more often than last season in the Lakers.
    The simplest definition is how JLin contributed big time in a game to pull a win or be the best player.

    IMO it’s good to create excitement but it could be unfair to others with more precise number.
    What if we reduce the point to be 0.5 to be fair for others who worked hard to crunch a number?

    That way, it still creates excitement but still be fair.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! If this really happen… it will be Magic… LOL!

    https://twitter.com/latimessports/status/669284624489512960

  • CJSHYY

    BS is really unbelievable bad….. smh!

    https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/669230967110787072

  • Dan Cohen

    if lakers really beat the warriors, you will be hearing BS trash talk..that arrogant clueless son of a gun

  • Spot

    Agree.

  • Dan Cohen

    zamm khuang.. I mean I do respect your bball knowledge and opinion (probably also because much older than moi).. but this is really over the board.. I mean lin is important, but couldn’t win without him??!! they can scratch a win here and there. Even the knicks now can win without lin.

  • Dan Cohen

    suppose to practice 3 point shots.. no wonder why he is missing them in games.. he is not practicing them because it’s not a big requirements like the houston to shoot 3s.

  • Spot

    Congratulations!!! ?

  • Dan Cohen

    he is not in shotting slump… he is in a 3 point shooting slump.

  • JW

    Steve Kerr still recovering from his surgery, isn’t he? Wouldn’t Luke get the wins?

  • Spot

    Eye test vs analytics.

    Same story everywhere.

  • Acbc

    Lol, BS is for Byron Scott. He runs the LA Lakers, literally, because he doesn’t really know how to coach them. He was a minor part of the “show time” LA Lakers with Magic and Kareem.

    But you may have something BS does seem to “beat ” his own team really well.

  • Acbc

    Especially after that comment. GSW just threw out the mercy rule.

  • Acbc

    I’m filing a complaint too because I should have 2 wins now but I was way for that last Hairsanity game. Had you just pencil me in for Hairsanity for every game like ask, I woulda had that one too. Lol

  • spiderman

    it’s hyperbole to emphasize Lin’s importance to the wins they were able to get last season. Without Lin, season would have been worse

  • 1mtoldman

    a very good question and the answer:

    There’s an NBA paradox on the horizon, as we’re very likely to see a winless man receive an NBA coach of the month award. Due to a quirky rule for interim coaches, Luke Walton’s wins during the Golden State Warriors’ historic 15-0 start to the season all officially funnel to Steve Kerr, who’s still out with painful complications from his first back surgery.–espn

    (i dont know what the “quirky rule” is but it appears from this quote that the wins go to kerr officially).

  • 1mtoldman

    “could this be the magic at last.
    Could it be magic”

  • blubell

    🙁 hmmm… can we then at least get a full point when it is clearly Linsanity game where he fills up the stat sheet?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    This is just a very very very very short clip. Don’t make the assumption based on this short short short clip.

  • Joe what do you know

    Yeah what’s the point of this statement?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes. That isn’t ideal but at least fairer to those who vote on numbers rather phenomenon.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Stat sheet does fill up in Hairsanity. Hairsanity can’t be anything with points plus assists. That’s why it’s clearly unfair to those who vote on numbers/assists. Like last game 14 pts/3asts. Another game can be 17pts/5asts and so on. Hairsanity can win all different pts/asts whereas the pts/asts voters have very little window can win. My thinking is: the exact pts/asts can get 1.5. Close pts/asts can get 1 and Hairsanity only can get 0.5. Fairer to all voters. Deal or no deal???!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL 🙂

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Keys to tonight’s game: Kobe can be sneaky. If he limits himself to less then 12 shots and plays the facilitator role, this could be just an ordinary blowout. But if Kobe continues to show his truly astounding IDGAF attitude and chucks up 20 shots during this highly anticipated game, then the sky’s the limit. Another thing to watch for are those pesky refs. Lately, they’ve been sending Kobe to the free throw line because someone dared to breath while Kobe was rearing back to fling a brick.

  • bolero
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    jlin7? head #justwokeup #concerned #onlyGodcanjudgeme #whichmeansyoucant #hah
    https://instagram.com/p/-eP7mbuP_M/

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOLOLOL JLin. You are really in funny mood:-)

  • CJSHYY

    Saw that…Cousins always mean to players…. I saw later Lamb run into him too… then Lamb run away from him…LOL!

  • Rick Johnson

    I think even if Steve Kerr is well he shouldn’t come back until after the Warriors lose. Otherwise if he comes back and then they lose which they would have eventually he will be blamed.

    Might be superstitious but could see why it might be wise not to return.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Ref & NBA will help Kobe & Lakers not to loss too much… LOL!

  • Rick Johnson

    Should wear a hair net on his beard, eww

    https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/status/669291533342871552

  • blubell

    FYI. New poll is up. Refresh page if you don’t see it.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • LW

    He meant ‘show time lakers’ of his era, not the current team.

  • spiderman

    Mom: Son why don’t you play some defense?

    Harden: I can’t mom because I need to score baskets… Duh

  • GoodDayLA

    jordan brand

  • CJSHYY

    Just check box score… both Pacers & Wsh shoot well in 3P. Wow! Never thought Pacer is that good now.

  • blubell

    Wizards playing tonight?

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! vs Pacers.

  • blubell

    Good. I hope the Pacers wear them out. 2nd night of back to back for Wizards when they play the Hornets tomorrow 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I know. Wizards always up & down in shooting. But Pacers is good at least today.

  • blubell

    Who needs to lose in order for the Hornets to move up in the standings?

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes if Pacers beat the Wizards Hornets will move up to #7 place. Then they play the Wizards Wednesday and they need to win to keep the #7 position.

  • CJSHYY

    Wizards. I think maybe they will… Pacers is good.

  • blubell

    Maybe we should take a poll? LOL.

  • DX

    Wizards has good bench players as well.

  • CJSHYY

    Sessions is good too. When he was w Hornets, that’s the year they made it to playoff.

  • jeremy

    what more do u need

  • DX

    Saw Lin’s Lakers’s team mate J. Hill.

  • spiderman

    Hansbrough clapping so hard. Clifford has got to let him loose

  • CJSHYY

    Wsh bench beat Pacers bench now. Hill just like Ellis can’t really play free like their old team…

  • Dan Cohen

    older generation as in what ages?
    I don’t know.. I’m in NY. I don’t see stuff you describe to my friend who is chinese… maybe because I’m with him and another non -asian is with him?

  • 1mtoldman

    paul george is back better than ever.

  • 1mtoldman

    pacers made their first 8 shots from the field over all and still were only up by 1

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The 1 2 punch of Monta Ellis & Paul George is going to be awesome.

  • Dan Cohen

    so why they don’t sign him.. action speaks louder than words.

  • 1mtoldman

    bradley beal is back.

  • jeremy

    Lamb cant guard him so Lin will play extended mins again

  • 1mtoldman

    ellis actually isn’t having that good a season so far but george has been huge.

  • 1mtoldman

    i haven’t seen lamb able to guard much of anyone.

  • blubell

    Coaches don’t sign players.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! He is shooting well w 3P.

  • 1mtoldman

    is this the only game 2nite that can impact hornets theoretic current “place”. ?

  • CJSHYY

    Ellis can’t get to handle the ball that much like he did w Mav. So he didn’t play that well.

  • blubell

    Was he traded or signed as FA/RFA?

  • CJSHYY

    FA.

  • jeremy

    John Wall doesnt get a lot of mins
    Wizards coach is another McHale I see

  • blubell

    Celtics vs. Hawks and CHI vs POR

  • jeremy

    He can guard back up SGs

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe save it for tomorrow. Their bench play well. But Pacers starters play well.

  • 1mtoldman

    the wiz announcers in discussing their upcoming games just said the hornets are averaging the most points per game of any eastern conference team, i think they said that: is that true?

  • occupatio

    offense is either measured in terms of points per game, or points per 100 possessions.

    based on PPG, hornets are #2 in the eastern conference.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsfor

  • blubell

    Right behind Cleveland.
    stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/

  • 1mtoldman

    indiana shoots 80% from 3 in the half still only leading by 1.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No, that was it, 4 shots then he hit the shower. lol

  • 1mtoldman

    maybe i mishear. i probably only heard part of it. like….they said second highest in the eastern conference and i just came in at highest in the eastern conference.

  • TTNN

    maybe points per 100 possessions? Hornets is rather slower paced team though…..

  • 1mtoldman

    im probably confused at what they said; like i thought nene was who riley curry was dancing to.

  • blubell

    You’re not alone 🙂

  • 1mtoldman

    speaking of points per something as regards hornets hot offense; walker, batum, lamb and lin are all top 60 in points per shot among qualified players.

    at the other of the spectrum interestingly kobe, rondo, monta ellis and dangelo russell are all bottom 10 among qualified players.

  • Rick Johnson

    If Atlanta loses Hornet will pass them but then that means Boston would win which would tie Hornets so I guess they would be tied with Boston for #7. If both Atlanta and Washington lose then Hornets move to #6 but I think they will be tied with Boston so tied for #6? If Chicago loses they would still be ahead of the Hornets so that wouldn’t change the Hornets standing.

  • blubell

    And if the Hornets win tomorrow they can move up to 5th?

  • occupatio

    it is just as likely the announcers got it wrong.

  • occupatio
  • occupatio
  • Rick Johnson

    It is possible but things would have to fall just right, BOS would have to lose to ATL, then MIN would have to beat ATL Wednesday, TOR lose to CLE on Wed, Hornets got to beat WAS on Wednesday.

  • james brown

    LOL!!! but that’s TRUE.

  • blubell

    I think all of these are possible except MIN beating ATL.

  • Maknusia

    Looks like he tried the SuperSaiyan hairdo by himself…lol

  • DX

    John Wall had 7 TOs in 22 mins. -20 wow

  • Lx

    Still better than James Harden.

  • Rick Johnson

    Poor volume shooter. Probably similar to Kobe’s

    https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/669317845688434688

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Have good feeling Kemba will get the All-star selection if not starter.

  • Rick Johnson

    Or BOS beat ATL. But then BOS would also likely beat 76ers and would be ahead of the Hornets so Hornets won’t get to 5th.

  • blubell

    Plus Hornets facing Cleveland on Friday (possible loss)… I’ll be happy with the 6th/7th for now.

  • MorlockO

    Lol Cousins is 7ft 300 pounds and flopping to lamb and lin… he is crazy… no wonder sacramento is not going anywhere… its not because of coaching, not because of management its because of cousins!!

  • Rick Johnson

    That would be a statement game if Hornets could beat Cleveland on Friday. Would get a lot of attention around the league. Cliff would have to utilize Lin correctly for that to happen.

  • james brown

    JLIN will be voted in..while KW will be selected by the coach..SWEET!!!

  • blubell

    Hornets are barely beating teams below .500 (SAC, Nets) but getting better each game… we’ll see.

  • Maknusia

    SKerr is still very much behind the scene on how GSW are playing..he still joins their training and talks to training staffs on daily basis.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Bench starts and starter bench? Lol

  • Maknusia

    Lol….nba world and luke had given the credit to SKerr….for the way they are playing now

  • Rick Johnson

    Well if Clifford could skip the part where the starters get into a hole and just jump to the part where the bench dominates and brings them back they could win. Maybe they should just swap the bench and the starters.

  • Andrew Ho

    thanks fellow “Andrew”! Great name by the way 🙂

  • Rick Johnson

    Dennis Ginobili
    ‏@manu77728
    After last night’s heroic OT win, Apple Daily of Taiwan computer graphic Jeremy Lin as Full Power of Dragon Ball.
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/669336378497347584

  • Maknusia

    Totally!!! Agree with you on this….hairsanity should only be credited for any extra ordinary performance

  • DX

    Yes, Harden is at his worst now.

  • Rick Johnson

    Looks like Indiana will beat Washington. 114 to 101 3:45 to go. Hornets will move to #7

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Chances of Wizzards win the game with 2:43 left??? 117 vs 104.

  • DX

    Great, hope can beat Wizards tomorrow!

  • DX

    No way, Pacers plays really good and J. Wall is on court now. These 2 teams are good at O but weak on D, especially Wizards.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Don’t watch the game. Maybe JLin is in the team:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Ok. Impossible. It’s 119 v 105 with 1:43 left.

  • DX

    Wizards has given up.

  • 1mtoldman

    i didn’t know it was that convoluted im sorry i asked.

    i think the simple answer to my own question as i see it right now an hour later is: washington loses, boston most likely loses.

    charlotte sits 7th after 2nite and i dont want to try to calculate beyond that.

    and actually im not even sure if thats right; but i think so.

  • 1mtoldman

    watching denver/clips –gallinari is being very agressive this year; his hair is more of a mohawk but has elements of a modified lin spike.

  • CJSHYY

    He will as back up bc Hornets host this year’s ASG.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yeah, Hornets now at #7:

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Chicago vs Portland. Which team is most likely going to win???

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Rick Johnson

    Tomorrow we need CLE to beat TOR and MIN to beat ATL and the Hornets to beat WAS then Hornets will move to #5.

  • DX

    That’s the plan. The MC of Wizards mentioned next game vs. Hornets is tough one.

  • Yascar

    I’d say Bulls. Portland is a depleted and not very good this year.

  • 1mtoldman

    minny over atl would be a reach but atl is not winning by much their point differential is not very good. so…..

    wheres the game? didn’t check but i believe thus far minny has been more successful at home than on the road.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Just want Hornets win the game:-)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Ok. Just wonder whether Chicago will move down a little in conference standing if they lose:-)

  • 1mtoldman

    i actually like the portland team and dont think they will be/have been as bad as many preidicted and i think need to get myers leonard back and chicago is inconsistent but yeah would be a definite “most likely” for chicago.

  • CJSHYY

    Bulls.

  • CJSHYY

    So happy Mem beat Mav so bad now. Ya!

  • occupatio

    why happy about that?

  • kauaiblue

    Bc they didnt indicate that much interest in jlin and thats parsons team… i root against mavs… so many teams to root against!

  • occupatio

    hah okay. lin fans have the most vengeful memory hah

  • kauaiblue

    Lol

  • CJSHYY

    Hate the way Mav treated Lin when they vs Hornets. Harris… remember… smh!

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Lam

    Parsons jilted lin and may be having a secret affair with a German guy in the team.

  • CJSHYY

    Thompson 0-7 but GSW still up by 16.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Kobe: 0/4. And his 3 point shooting for the season in now in the teens.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! So far can’t make any shot?

  • 1mtoldman

    on a lakers fan chat someone compared kobe now to that gold fish that has lived too long and is just sort of floating on the top of the tank.

  • JW

    they should leave him open to get the ball. I would be more worry about Randall getting the ball.

  • 1mtoldman

    its like they’re just playing around with them; its like an exhibition game between a pro team and some long amatuer team.

  • JW

    “There’s no defense” talking about the LAL. Thought that’s what BS suppose to be good at.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But Lakers is really bad. Kobe 0-4. JC 0-3? Russell really made 2 shots?!

  • 1mtoldman

    “we just gettin beat on little things”–byron scott

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    But still eating all the fish food.

  • CJSHYY

    What Little things? LOL!

  • CJSHYY

    Only Russell makes the shot? Haha!

  • 1mtoldman

    think scotts auditioning for standup after he and kobe have done their job of tanking to dp’s.

  • DX

    Last season, Lin was helping Lakers won Spurs, Warriors, Rockets, Celtics. It won’t happen again.

  • CJSHYY

    GSW already tried their best not to score… but still win by 20 now. Maybe Curry & Klay both will not play in 2nd half.

  • Brent Yen

    lol

  • 1mtoldman

    warriors 13 assists; lakers 1

  • DX

    Lakers only has 1 ast. so far.

  • CJSHYY

    Bc they can’t make the shot…. LOL!

  • blubell

    Who dared to pass? lol

  • 1mtoldman

    “riley curry over or under 10 points”

  • CJSHYY

    GSW always up around 20 pts …. NBA told them not to embarrass Lakers too much?

  • CaliUSMC

    Lakers lookin like charmin out there. So embarrassing.

  • 1mtoldman

    the refs should call a tko.

  • CJSHYY

    Young can’t make the shot either….

  • Rick Johnson

    Only little things is between Byron Scott’s ears.

  • sws94

    Kobe is horrible. Randle and Russell actually look decent. GSW isn’t even playing that well. They’ll probably really put them away in the 2nd half.

  • CJSHYY

    I think they don’t want to make Lakers looks so bad what’s why GSW played OK only. Kobe & JC both looked bad for 1st half.

  • sws94

    JC looks like he’s having a bad game. Kobe looks shot. Like he should retire at halftime and then go to some rehab to let his body recover from so many years of hard basketball.

  • Pete Roces

    watching acrobatic performance at half time is far more exciting than the game!!!

  • joyce ward
  • CJSHYY

    Haha! This is funny.

  • sws94

    There’s nothing between his ears. Empty space.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    Great shot Kobe.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Stranger things have happened. But not tonight.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Dog left to go piss on a fire hydrant.

  • sws94

    1-11

  • sws94

    1-12

  • occupatio

    this game is unwatchable

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • 1mtoldman

    “stop the fight”

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • occupatio

    curry makes everything look so easy

  • sws94

    The Lakers have no plays. They get the ball, someone dribbles, passes, someone iso’s, passes and then shoot mostly contested shots.

  • sws94

    At least it hit the rim.

  • occupatio

    i havent been watching lakers games previously. i dont get why russell was picked so high. im not seeing it.

  • CJSHYY

    Right now I really hope Kobe can make one shot… feel sorry for him. smh!

  • sws94

    He’s made 1. I think he’s 1-13.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Chicago (82) v Portland (80) with 4:01 left.

  • CJSHYY

    I mean one more… OMG….

  • joyce ward

    Right about now, Kobe needs to fake an injury.LOL

  • CJSHYY

    What? Only up by 2?

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Ref needs to give him some help…

  • joyce ward

    Yall already know this going to be on Shaqquin the Fool

  • 1mtoldman

    allrite i admit it this is the 3rd time ive said this in one form or another but just seems too appropriate: if this was a fight the ref would have stepped in and called it by now,

    dubs by tko

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep. Chicago lost 2 points before this:-)

  • sws94

    I don’t know, I wouldn’t bet on it. If he keeps putting them up maybe he’ll hit one but he’s got nothing on his shot. No legs.

  • 1mtoldman

    with the commander playing him this many minutes he probably wont have to fake it.

  • joyce ward

    LOL

  • real-dsb

    lol

  • sws94

    His whole game tonight can be one episode of Shaqin a Fool

  • occupatio

    who is more awful to watch? lakers or sixers?

  • sws94

    Lakers.

  • occupatio

    sixers are bad. but lakers are offensive.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • 1mtoldman

    on a lakers chat previously in the nite someone put up a over under ? on 50

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    He needs to close his eyes and maybe he’ll get lucky.

  • occupatio

    swaggy looks happy tho. haha

  • Acbc

    If this was a fight, it wouldn’t have happened to begin with. Kobe couldn’t even beat an old lady across the street, never-mind climbing into the ring.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I believe Kobe needs to be in the conversation about MVP. But his teammates need to man-up.

  • Job713

    They should just end this Lakers game after the 3rd quarter.. New GSW Mercy Rule

  • joyce ward

    This is true. LOL

  • occupatio

    curry used to be a below average defender two years ago. now hes solid to good, and most of all, he can put defensive pressure without risking getting a personal foul.

  • MoominFloren

    I feel sorry for Young, Hibbert and Russell…. I hope the kid can survive from this toxic lakers…

  • CaliUSMC

    If ur bored with the gsw/lakers game.. 89-88 bulls leading in 4th 13 secs left.

  • occupatio

    thx.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    See who is the real soft Charmin….pissing all over the fire hydrant…Kobe Bryant!

  • Acbc

    This is an embarrassment to the league. It says everything that is wrong with the fake star system in place. It illustrates the travesty of tanking. It undervalues everything sacred about sportsmanship and Olympic spirit. When a team allows owners to put such a fake star on the floor, it is like placing a 70 year old man to try to outrun Usane Bolt. Where else is it possible to have such a total mismatch of talent and pretend it’s fair? This game is a total indictment on the NBA.

  • occupatio

    itll be a lillard 3 shot at end

  • CaliUSMC

    McCollum fail lol

  • grover chang

    MDA as coach. Lin as pg. Kobe on bench. Would these changes make the Lakers vs GSW competitive?

  • CaliUSMC

    So many boring games tonight… BORED

  • occupatio

    yeah didnt look good heh.

    but too bad, would be nice if bulls lost

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang

    Too bad. he has been good this season.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Love Lin

    Cant imagine how Barkley makes the comments abt this.. 🙂

  • CaliUSMC

    It was a trip though… Dirty green

  • rookie75094

    Remember when Jlin led the tankers Whooping the w’s…. oh mine…how times changed…hehe

  • CJSHYY
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • CaliUSMC

    Definitely a breakout year for him

  • CaliUSMC

    It looks like he prayed in mid-air.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Does 2-25 looks any better?

  • james brown

    Nice defense…with folding arms like his coach!!!JC’s arms were Xfactor here!

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang
  • grover chang

    I posted below, if Lin and MDA was in and Kobe was out, I think Lin and the Lakers could win. If everyone played well, but Lin has that kind of effect on teams.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • joyce ward
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Guess it’s time I need to stop to bring tweets on Lakers:-) They are already in too misery place.

  • lol .. duly noted. For some reason, I can only find your name once.
    I checked twice =)

  • JoeTeam

    Kobe was so bad. He’s done just doesn’t know he has no clothes on.

  • grover chang

    This guy should check the stats before tweeting something like this. Lin is only ave 2.9 assists this season. His line this season. 11.7/2.9/2.9.

  • CJSHYY

    Still 5 more min… Lakers sure wish the game end right now. Tomorrow Kobe will be the headline for his bad shooting day. 1-14?! smh!

  • JoeTeam

    he’ll just say it’s a shoulder acting up again.

  • JoeTeam

    this one was so funny … shaqtin’

  • it’s a tough one to judge for sure, let me think about it some more.
    we might need some cap

  • Yascar

    True but he’s playing SG most of the time. I think it was more a dig at actual playing style.

  • JoeTeam

    I didn’t and you messed of the o-fer for me ha ha.

  • it’s a tough one to judge for sure, let me think about it some more.

    we might also need some cap.

  • JoeTeam

    the Harlem Globetrotters actually.

  • Steppen03

    Yeah, but Lin had more when he was on Lakers… That’s what he meant, I think…

  • JoeTeam

    It’s official, I am now hoping JLin can stop GSW, they’ve eaten at the trough just fine. Win until then, then let’s have a Linsanity time !

  • CJSHYY

    If Cliff let Lin be PG & plays the team like vs Bulls game 1.

  • Steppen03

    Loving “Clutch” Curry’s finger rolls – A Thing of Beauty! I cheer for everyone on GS Team – Teamball at its finest!

  • JoeTeam

    Anything, just make it more challenging. The way they have it, GSW are favored for 64 games left, 2 underdogs to SAS. Steph is going to need challenge to stay sharp as they ramp it into next Spring.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, they play beautiful bball, like a team of 5’7″ guys.

  • real-dsb

    what if GSW get to 19-0, then Lin + Hornets hand them their first loss to prevent 20-0? 😉

  • CJSHYY

    We will know next Wed.

  • Steppen03

    Eh, I want to grab the game against Cavs more. That’ll be much more satisfying – a redemption from losing to Hawks, Heat and they’re same conference.

  • LinMad

    that would be a big confidence booster to the entire team.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Ben Johnson

    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but ESPN has finally started
    calculating RPM and WAR for this season…Jeremy’s numbers are pretty
    disappointing 🙁 He in the bottom 25th percentile for PGs with a -2.17
    RPM…I’m kind of surprised how low his RPM currently is given that his
    overall plus minus stats and Net Rating for the year are very good, in the top 15th-25th
    percentile…very strange

    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1

  • JoeTeam

    it doesn’t matter, it’s his usage. It’ll steady out as this team figures out the roles and what keeps them winning.

  • JoeTeam

    ok, I’m with you. Anytime Lin beats the best player in the world, I’m in.

  • Steppen03

    It doesn’t what stats are out there – haters will secretly hate – stubborn people will remain stubborn. Plenty more games left to play – JL7 will pick it up and give all he’s got. Everything else – I tune them out if it’s negative.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    But that was his flu game. Now he shoots 1/14 when he’s feeling good. Looking on the bright side, tonight he shot better from deep then overall: 14% vs 7%!

  • joyce ward

    So who will Scott throw under the bus tonight? Probably Russell.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    You mean harakiri or euthanasia

  • blubell

    eenie meenie miney mo?

  • Seahawk

    I’d say Jeremy Lin.

  • Steppen03

    To The Lakers,
    Consider yourself lucky that you didn’t get blown out by 50 points (like Memphis). And I do like The Grizzlies – they will be my team to keep kicking the Rox out of the building. =)

  • james brown

    just stats..too early to conclude!

  • CJSHYY

    But Russell did good compare to JC..?! Wonder who Scott can use now?

  • james brown

    young!

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! Maybe bc they use Young’s picture for the lose tonight. Poor guy!

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t worry this will change….

  • blubell
  • james brown

    its his turn…LOL!

  • james brown

    NBA can do that because this is business!

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But Young is already a bench… BS said he will make the lineup change… So, Young will be DNP?!

  • CJSHYY

    ESPN & TNT maybe will cancel some of Lakers games now.

  • LinMad

    Keep broadcasting them so their fan base will die out and move to GSW

  • james brown

    its his turn to be thrown under the wheel of the bus because he wasn’t able to score while riding the bench bench!!!!

    anyway, scott and young will TALK about that later as usual because they always Talk, talk, talk!

  • CJSHYY

    Scott don’t like Young & I think he will be the target for sure…. Poor guy has to deal w BS for this season. But next season will be OK bc I really believe once Kobe is retired from Lakers. BS will be fired.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I wouldn’t even care if JLin hadn’t lost one year of his prime playing on this kafkaesque team.

  • LinMad

    probably if not enough viewers

  • CJSHYY

    Lakers still have a very strong fanbase so need more time…

  • grover chang

    Would be awesome but on a scale 1-10 how much do you believe Hornets will win? Does not even look fair the way Warriors are playing.

  • occupatio

    it makes sense when you consider that lin gets no assists bc his playmaking timespan in each game is limited (and playing with hawes), and he is shooting an awful 29% from 3 at a considerable volume. that’s pretty much it, esp the 3P shot.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it has to do w what game plan Cliff wants to use… teamball or ISO…?

  • Steppen03

    Against this GS Warriors Team… Eh, it’ll be a very tall task even for Linsanity. “Clutch” Curry & Co. is on another level. Lin at his finest will still be below this GS Team. It’s Team Not about “one” player.

  • Steppen03

    Very funny, indeed. Lol… I like Clarkson tho – just be little less selfish.

  • Steppen03

    99% likely. Certainly be more competitive this bias BS team. Real coach Vs Fake coach.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I love Lakers games. I just get bored when Kobe sits.

  • CJSHYY
  • Acbc

    No need, lol. I’m just messing with you. I really don’t care that much. I try to remember to vote and when I do I almost always vote Linsanity or Hairsanity.

  • Steppen03

    I really hated Magic when he bashed MDA… How about now, Magic ?? Time to bash BScott ?!!?

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    BS is powerless. It’s all Kobe.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    As if NY likes to pass? I wish he had said that Miss Daisy needs to retire or at least stop shooting so much.

  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    At least he dared to speak out the problem from the team…. Maybe he has nothing to loss now… But still glad someone said something…

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    This has to be the tipping point. Kobe has to retire. How can he be so shameless?

  • CJSHYY

    $$$$$

  • DX

    Speechless!

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Did Serena ask who is that one guy you’re referring to?

  • DX

    Really like Young.

  • CJSHYY

    No. They are the one. Kobe & BS. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. I saw his another interview.. what he said just like what Lin said… needs to be have fun on court. Play fast break, share the ball…. If Kobe & BS are out of Lakers. I think Lin maybe will go back to Lakers. He said Young is funnest teammate he knew.

  • Maknusia

    @psalm234:disqus is something wrong with the voting poll? I think I voted twice?!!!

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    He’ll get the money anyway. He’s humiliating himself. Even lowering his career stats which will tarnish his legacy. Jordan still shot well in his last two seasons.

  • CJSHYY

    Kobe wants to continue to play bc there are more money next season but I guess Lakers will not give it to him now. smh!

  • Rick Johnson

    Is Kobe starting to throw BScott under the bus?

    https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/669405978375385088

  • grover chang

    Zzz. LED Lakers vs Warriors last season.

  • sws94

    Zero. This is an elite team.

  • CJSHYY

    Sounds like that… LOL!

  • khomphuong2
  • sws94

    Boozer, Big Ed, Lin, Jordan Hill, all have to be really relieved to get away from the toxicity that is the LA Lakers. Yes, great at one time and now an absolutely dysfunctional mess of a franchise.

  • sws94

    That doesn’t help Kobe. He needs to shorten his time on the court. 25 minutes at the most.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    They are the one. BS can’t decide anything.

  • Andrew Ho

    nice analogy!

  • Maknusia

    lol…dont even need to ask 😉 there is no comparison between the two teams. The record speaks.

    but obviously we want a good show…and is possible a win for Lin and Hornets! I only see it possible with @Michael:disqus going into his sleeping beauty mode

  • wandertheglobe

    How can you loose faith in your own boss? BS is talking out of his you know what….Father’s time is undefeated, there ain’t no turning back the clock. It’s sad to see Kobe playing like this….

  • DX

    Also Ellington, Wes, Price.

  • wandertheglobe

    Nick knows it’s a sinking ship and he doesn’t have anything to loose by speaking out.

  • DX

    These 2 come to end.

  • sport

    No team in their right mind would.

  • CJSHYY

    Fun game. Really hope Cliff can let Lin play like this tomorrow.

  • sport

    Young was a fun teammate and has talent too bad he couldn’t get out of Lakers like the others.

  • james brown

    no need to lie! LOL

  • AlexBB

    just watched the highlight of GSW and Lackee..GSW team work and chemistry is just WOW..just telephatic..looks like they can played with eyes closed and still above to score..SMH..

  • CJSHYY

    They are really improve even more this season. I guess they will get another ring.

  • Maknusia

    thus far…I dont see any teams challenging their stand

  • sws94

    Lin’s stats aren’t that great for this game. He’s 4-11, played 25 minutes but he does have 5 assists and 3 steals with only 1 TO. He hit 3 3s in that game.

    Lin could have a bigger impact in tomorrow’s game, I don’t know if he’ll hit many 3s though.

  • CJSHYY

    Me too.

  • james brown

    i don’t think that Young is a team player before and will ever be. He has pride with himself and you could easily discern his character, on off the court.

    He was fun then because they were both having difficulty understanding scott then, but when he was given time and opportunity by scott, he was no where when Jlin was marginalized heavily. i saw during jlin’s time there that young could easily sway by his ego and has no loyalty. He stayed at LA thinking that he can be their franchise.

    I believe JLin should stay away from this kind of player.cocky and braggart!

  • james brown

    he needs to let go of his ego and need to share the ball. system is ok,its just he’s messing with it that’s why his teammates play loose.

  • no, you’re good. I only see 1 vote.
    My 2nd attempt to vote failed so it works

  • CJSHYY

    I didn’t mean stats but game plan. Wizards can shot 3P well. Even not as good as Pacers. Their bench are also good. There’s one very good shooter… so not sure about tomorrow’s result.

  • james brown

    if i am the coach, i will allow KOBE to shoot 3 and leave the midrange and inside with the other players. i will ask him just to stay outside and camp there so he can sustain his energy and prolong his game. i will tell him that he has not to worry because he will not be guarded by opponent and his teammates will pass him the ball for his 3’s (and i am serious about this. ;P )

  • Maknusia

    cool thanks…will try to hack again 😉

  • CJSHYY

    Like Young said He has been doing this for 20 years. Kobe will be Kobe….

  • sport

    I hope GSW 3 peats. So much for the premature talk of Lebron’s legacy. More like Steph Curry and GSW legacy!

  • sure, hack away =)

  • Maknusia

    i dont think he did ever think that he could be their franchise player. There was an interview posted some years back…where he mentioned he prefers/dont mind coming off the bench

  • PETE B

    These numbers draw the profound yet simple conclusion of
    No Lin , No Win

  • james brown

    but during those games that he was hot , he seems to show thats he’s another KOBE and i think he believe that so. He was called last season little Kobe and he like it then.

  • sws94

    Kemba and Lin both do well against Washington. Even if Batum is out, the matchups are pretty good against Washington and the Hornets are home and trying to protect a winning streak. Washington is traveling and played last night. I think the advantage goes to the Hornets.

  • Maknusia

    no doubt he likes to shoot 😉

  • sealtrader

    Laugh OUT LOUD !!!

  • Maknusia

    Warriors make NBA history as first team to start season 16-0

    Now, the Warriors can aim for two more NBA records: 33 straight or 72 total wins.

    http://www.si.com/nba/game/2015/11/24/lakers-warriors-tuesday-november-24th-2015#

  • jolno

    If we assume Kobe’s efficiency number does not drop further with more FGA (BIG IF), for Kobe to average 35 points a game he would need to attempt roughly 37.76 shots a game!!!

    If his efficiency drops further, we’ll be looking at breaking Wilt Chamberlain’s FGA/game record (39.5FGA/game) for Kobe to hit that 35PPG LOL. By the way, Wilt averaged 50.4 points that season.

  • Joe what do you know

    This deserves 10million retweets….

  • Joe what do you know

    Swaggy really reminds me of Johnny Drama from Entourage….

  • Maknusia

    lol

    The need is there, and instead of finding ways to control Kobe’s play on the court, Scott is simply allowing it to happen and point to Bryant’s Basketball-Reference page as an excuse for why it’s acceptable.

    He’s become Kobe’s personal assistant, instead of his coach in many respects. This is the issue.

    This isn’t a fraternity where you get to do things because you’ve been there for a long time. Everything should be about the quality of play on the court and not creating a country club mentality. The Lakers are ranked 28th in both offense and defense. Who is holding Scott accountable as he pretends to hold others accountable?

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25388059/byron-scotts-double-standard-for-kobe-bryant-is-only-hurting-lakers

  • Joe what do you know

    Man…. This “Real Coaches of NBA” is hundred times more entertaining than the “Real Housewives” series….

  • Maknusia

    lol…nasty remarks on that page…poor clarkson

    Stephen Curry is doing his usual tricks. Jordan Clarkson, who was the
    recipient of this crossover, went back to his toddler years.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Byron still gets paid for doing nothing.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin has recognized his role in the team now. He just waits for his turn to shine. In the last game, PFV told us that Lin relaxed until the very end when Batum, Walker were all very tired double teamed and couldn’t lead anymore. he picked up his game in the flow. Lin took what the Kings gave him and he challenged and won the game literally before the Kings could react to it.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    What happened last season when the team won without him, BS didn’t like it. Things were wronged again soon after. You reaped what you sowed. Kobe wanted to win it by himself or nothing. Naturally He got nothing.

  • Michael

    Thanks for the tip.

  • Michael

    That’s strange I have no problem when I play CHA#7.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It was so much fun w/o Kobe.
    Did you all recognize that Jeremy made the play @0:26 He broke up the GSW pass and tipped it to Clarkson. All they care was Clarkson got the dunk. The commentation was negative towards JLin as much as they could be.

    Lakers were full of crooks. They deserve what they are.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin was making plays though he was not given credit

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    LoooooooL

  • 1mtoldman

    golden state is/was elegant basketball

    course it helped they were playing against the mostly dead all day kobe and the lackers led by tank commander scott.

  • 1mtoldman

    no kobe no you couldn’t be out there averaging 35 points a game. sorry no. lakers fans were like at half time playing a sad music like a eulogy of kobes carreer and begging him to retire now. before he embarasses himself and his legacy even further.

  • 1mtoldman

    i have always submitted from day one that scott was hired to do just 2 things:

    1. be kobe’s personal assistant
    2. tank to draft picks.

    he’s been absolutley fabulous at both.

  • 1mtoldman

    yeah see my note above about lakers fan chat line music/gif eulogy for kobe at halftime.

  • 1mtoldman

    i have not been impresed with washington this year; i sort of lump washington and toronto as teams that complie reasonable records in the east but nobody really takes them seriously as a “contender”.

    it should be a winable game. (course doesn’t mean hornets will win, but they have incentive, momentum and opportunity).

  • JW

    You kind of have to feel bad for Kobe now. The guy was feared by all the players for so long. After his injuries, he is just not able to come back to his old self. The guy is hard worker, and you know he must’ve spent hours trying to come back after his first injury only to suffer another one when he first came back.
    He could’ve saved himself all these grief and retired after that 2nd injury and he would’ve still been loved by his fans. At this time, he is simply tarnishing his image the longer he plays. He should be concern that he may have screwed up his future endorsement that Jordan is still getting. Jordan is a smart business man, and I don’t think Kobe has that business smart. Maybe that’s why Kobe wants to get his last pay day before finally retiring. I wouldn’t be surprised his wife ask for the divorce and leaving Kobe even less $.

  • K. P. Chan

    Andrew: I agree with most of what you’ve said. I also think it is just not classy for anyone to distract from Lin’s teammates’ performance and to cast aspersion on their accomplishments, and to always attribute these to Lin’s contributions to them.

    But there are a fews things some people say that I always have to struggle with:

    (1) “The behavior of some Lin fans just make me dislike Lin more” Why? It’s the fans’ behavior, not Lin’s. Why is that a reflection on Lin? Lin doesn’t not encourage that kind of behavior. In fact, he discourages it.

    (2) I am not on any forums except for this one, but I am on Twitter a lot. I have seen some of the stuff you’ve described in your post, but my impression is that these are isolated and not prevalent. I haven’t not seen too many people do this. Is this very wide-spread? Fans will be fans. They play favorites. Some are overly-zealous and biased, and step over the line. But why generalize? The over-whelming majority of Lin fans are classy and fair-minded, and do have genuine regards for Lin’s teammates. At least that’s my impression. Am I right?

    (3) Lastly, I do understand how some Lin fans can grate on people, especially on the media folks and popular bloggers. In these cases, the writers can freely address these fans directly and call them out. But I have seen on more than one occasion in which some bloggers group all the Lin fans together and paint them with a broad brush, tweeting to them sarcastic and highly provoking comments. That’s wrong too.

    So Andrew, I think your advice is right on. But I also think there are two sides to this.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOWOWOWOW! Great news for Hornets?????!!!!!!
    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/669506976741765120

  • KHuang

    I don’t feel sorry for Kobe Bryant at all.

    He chose this path, now he gets to enjoy it.

    Bryant’s all about the money, not winning.

  • KHuang

    It is impossible for Charlotte to reach such chemistry.

    The only way that could happen is if you played Lin, Lamb, Williams, Hansbrough, and Kaminsky together.

  • KHuang

    Trade Nick Young to Charlotte.

    Let him play with Lin again!

  • KHuang

    Good news for Clifford.

    I don’t think it changes anything for Lin.

  • KHuang

    Sounds like Kobe is angry that he’s not getting enough shots.

  • KHuang

    The Lakers are a CIRCUS FREAK SHOW and Byron Scott is the ringmaster!

  • Maknusia

    absolutely…he gets A++

  • BobbyH

    If FO had a hand on Lin’s PT before this, this will change it.

  • 1mtoldman

    kobe now has the lowest fg shooting % this season of any nba player playing at least 23 minutes a game.

    interesting footnote: second worst is ty lawson.

  • JW

    Let’s hope he does better than McHale. 1st year of his 3 year term, and he’s out now.

  • JW

    I like to think it wasn’t always the case. I think he’s always crazy focus to be the best player ever. Don’t know what he’s thinking now for these last 2 years.

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • KHuang

    Bryant is focused on being “the best” player so that he can make the most money.

    If he actually cared about producing like “the best”, he’d have changed his game twondecades ago.

  • JW

    He does have 5 rings to say why does he need to change. Not saying he shouldn’t since game has changed and he hasn’t.

  • Acbc

    Kobe deserves whatever karma he’s getting now. How many more rings could the Lakers have had had he not been such a egomaniac. Shaq and Kobe were 2 superstars that could have won at least 2 more rings together. But the thing I hated the most was the way he ruined Steve Nash’s last chance to get a ring when the Lakers assembked Howard, Nash and Gasol with Kobe. Kobe deliberately sabotaged that superstar team. Last year was the last straw when he faked his intentions to help Lin become a star only to stab him in the back with the help from BS.

    The Fakers and Kobe deserve one another. That franchise will turn to dust and it will be because of Kobe.

  • NONONO

    It is good news for Lin too because Cliff trusts him as a game changer. And he dares to sit Kemba and AL if he feels right.

  • Acbc

    What Kobe means is that the system is flawed because he wants a system that sets him up for an uncontested layup 30 times a game with 2 bigs carrying him on their shoulders.

    I can just imagine Kobe as an old decrepit angry grandpa at thanksgiving dinner yelling at everyone to serve him first.

  • sport

    Now that Cliff is set as coach he will have less worries about politics. Wonder if this extension will finally allow Cliff to start Lin.

  • sport

    I think so too, Cliff had to do what FO said since he was in the hot seat but now that he is set, he’s got more power to do what he wants. Hopefully that means starting Lin.

  • NONONO

    that tells about Rockets and Lakers.

  • Acbc

    Kobe wants to be the assassin, BS gets to be a**~assin. I suppose that’s still A++.

  • Acbc

    Gasol was the smartest to jump ship so early when his value was still unaffected by Kobe singularity.

  • Acbc

    DRose probably has a higher % of 3s with one eye. Kobe should get some reading glasses like all us seniors.

  • CJSHYY

    To my surprised, maybe now he will execute his promise to Lin & let him plays his game more since he got job extension already.

  • CJSHYY

    I feel the same like you about Lin is only one year deal w Hornets. I think that’s part of the reason he picked Hornets. One year only not long term contract w low salary.

  • Acbc

    You might as well wheel him out there in a wheel chair and tell grandpa to sit still and someone will come by once in a while to check on you. The Lakers might just win a gem that way.

  • NONONO

    I hope so too. Maybe he can let Lin play PG and Lamb backups Kemba as SG.

  • wu kong

    I thought it was funny that the Rockets were throwing his name around as a possible McHale replacement. Good for Coach Cliff and the Hornets to shut down that nonsense quickly.

  • Acbc

    Go back to bed, it’s game day. Lol

  • CJSHYY

    I think that’s more idea lineup bc Kemba is more SG than PG to me now.

  • sws94

    Kemba is PG, Lin is his backup and maybe 6th man. I don’t think that will change. In a Ewing interview he said their best four players are Kemba, Al, Nic and MKG. I don’t know if Clifford agrees with that but Kemba will be the Hornets starting PG for years.

  • NONONO

    Ewing might be gone soon, because He was supposed to make AL good. Now, AL is on bench when the games are close. Big men in Hornets cannot play PnR which Cliff likes to do with Lin. Ewing was not good at PnR. I hope Karl Malone or John Stockton is available for coaching PnR for Hornets.

  • sws94

    I doubt that.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Well said but kobe is a deek and deserves everything he’s getting.

  • CJSHYY

    Lin is only one year deal & came here just to help them win of course he will not be in the list. All Ewing said it’s their long term contract players. I guess Baum agreed to stay too.

  • CJSHYY

    Why they put bench w him for his extension news? Bc he got Lin to the team this year?

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/669529734695493633

  • Acbc

    Like Khuang keeps saying, these old guys from the 80s don’t know anything about the new game. They don’t understand why the GSW are killing everyone. They think it’s just Curry. It’s all MDA that has made a system that allowed someon of Curry’s ability to take advantage of.

    Clifford may or may not be the great offensive coach we’d hope for. That remains to be seen. What we do know is he’s a good defensive coach. His biggest test is coming up against the GSW. The next 5 games will tell us a lot about Clifford.

    I really like Clifford for being consistently positive with Lin. I believe he may be the next best thing right now for Lin. No other coach is as vocal about his belief in Lin. Now that he’s got a secure contract, let’s see how much he actually believes in Lin. I’ll give him another 15-20 games to convince me if Lin should stay a hornet or not.

  • Maknusia

    I doubt its FO…lets see

  • JLin Fan from Australia
  • Wandais38 .

    ha ha. because no matter how you slice it Jeremy generates more interest and they know it.

  • Acbc

    That’s because, these 3 guys are the future of the team!?

  • CJSHYY

    If Lin can’t be starting PG for this team he will not stay… He turned down GSW backup job why he wants to stay here as a backup? Don’t know about the other two.

  • sws94

    Much bigger role in Charlotte than GSW. Plus he may be 6th man in Charlotte.

  • CJSHYY

    6th man w his stats? Don’t think so.

  • sws94

    He’s played as 6th man in most games. Stats can change and I hope for the better.

  • NONONO

    Lin and Karminsky could help Cho’s extension.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope so bc he needs to have better stats than he’s right now.

  • CJSHYY

    Cho’s extension? His last year too?

  • NONONO

    Six month ago, “Jefferson has saved Cho’s job, so far, but time is running out. If the Charlotte general manager cannot turn lemons into lemonade this summer, then he may find himself unemployed yet again.”

    http://swarmandsting.com/2015/04/22/charlotte-hornets-is-rich-cho-the-problem/

  • CJSHYY

    Oh! I think maybe depending on he can keep Batum & Lin or not? Batum maybe Lin no.

  • gum

    Living in the suburb of Wash.DC, I will be able to watch the game this evening on TV. My out of town guests all agreed to root for the Hornets…..especially Jeremy. Go Jeremy!

  • NONONO

    Cho will help Jordan to keep the “biggest acquisition”. “I think (Lin) is GOING TO BE our biggest acquisition”. Jordan wouldn’t not say “Lin is the biggest acquisition” yet, until Cho can keep Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets do want to keep Lin but I don’t think he will stay. IMO.

  • guest

    No 6th man for Jeremy. He’s bigger than just a 6th man.

  • NONONO

    Maybe. Only if they offer him starting PG job after he can prove his value in next 20-30 games.

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly. People still don’t get it. When he told NY Post, he turned down GSW deal… that already said it all. He wants to start…

  • CJSHYY

    I am not sure you can really trust their offer as starting PG job w this team. Bc Kemba just will not allow this to happen… That’s why Cliff keeps asking Lin to be SG… smh!

    In this team, starting SG is not like Harden or Klay. It’s Lance.

  • sws94

    Nothing wrong with being a 6th man and that’s what he is on Charlotte. He would not have been a 6th man on GSW.

  • KHuang

    NEVER trust the NY Post which constantly flames Lin even right now.

    NOBODY other than the Hornets offered Lin a formal contract to sign, not the Warriors or any other NBA team.

    NBA.com and hoopshype never reported the Warriors as being in the running for Lin. Had the Warriors even been interested in Lin, those two sites would have reported it the way they reported Dallas’s reaching out but eventual rejection of Lin.

  • sws94

    Why? Has Lin performed like a starting PG? Most of Kemba’s numbers are better. And with Kemba improving why would the Hornets want to mess up the chemistry they have with the team by replacing him at PG? Are you looking at the team and how Lin fits in or just stating what you want as a Lin fan?

  • CJSHYY

    Right now he maybe got 6th man min but not the real 6th man bc he played as SG w No Ball. Not like he can really run O as most of 6th man.

  • KHuang

    The Hornets will want Lin at his player option $2 million but not a cent more.

    I don’t expect any other team wanting Lin next year either.

    So Lin may end up as a two year rental, but even that could be curtailed when Charlotte replaces Lin via the draft or free agency. In that case, Lin would be a practice player like Tyler Hansbrough but would not actually play in games.

    I expect Charlotte to SHOP HARD for a backup point guard to replace Lin this summer.

  • guest

    Kemba is locked in as Hornets starting PG. We have no issue with that. Lin will land on a team that gives him a huge role, next season.
    Some GMs and coaches work for a living. The great ones have the burning desire to accomplish their dreams. Lin will team up with that special great mind for the ultimate big thing in the NBA — Championship!

  • CJSHYY

    Kemba plays well but Lin didn’t get the same chance like him. Kemba has the ball in his hand all the time but not Lin. Like vs King, if not for OT, Lin couldn’t even touch the ball in late 4Q. 6th man. Ya! smh!

  • Phillycheese

    Iggy is the 6th man on GSW. Lin would have been the fourth guard on that team. Role is much bigger on Hornets. It’s obvious.

  • KHuang

    If a nonAsian bench player put up Lin’s current stats, that player would command over $10 million in next season’s free agency.

  • sws94

    Kemba should touch the ball in the 4Q in the Kings game and most of the Hornets should have given it to him. I think Lin touched the ball plenty and made good plays. I think Lin’s defense is needed in the 4th, and ability to make big plays. But Kemba scored 21 points and didn’t miss a shot and was just in a zone. He deserved that chance, he earned it. He is steady with the ball and doesn’t look like he will turn it over where Batum and Lin look like they may.

    Lin fans can’t be blind to the qualities of why other players are chosen over Lin. Lin had a shaky game and OT is why we are happy in this game. Were in not for OT, where he was fantastic, Lin would not have had a good game against the Kings. Not offensively anyway.

  • CJSHYY

    I just said Lin can do the same like Kemba but he didn’t have the chance. Not that why other players are chosen over Lin. smh!

  • cdblue10

    Lin will always have a shaky game if you won’t play him w/ his strength.ASk D’Antoni,he might look like a scrub if not played with the right system.

  • sws94

    Lin has made his money. I think the small salary makes him feel like a bargain and was a good strategy for him to take. Lin hasn’t even hit his stride as a player for the Hornets yet. It’s coming.

  • sws94

    But he doesn’t need to run O to make his impact. In the OT who was the most impactful player? Lin. Did he run O? No. He has plenty chances to run his own unit, so that’s fine. When he’s in with Kemba he just has to move off ball and attack when he gets the chances and he’ll be fine in that role.

  • sws94

    Based on what? What championship caliber team doesn’t have a franchise PG? Why do you think Lin wants to keep changing teams and dealing with uncertainty of politics there plus the new system and coaches and team mates and cities?

  • KHuang

    Lin WILL NOT get paid.

    His Asian race prevents it.

  • Phillycheese

    If he averaged 35 a game, they’d be 0-14 and battling 76ers for the top pick next year. Even if Kobe took 100% of shots, there is no way he would score 80 points. Average number of possessions is about 96 per game. His effective shooting percentage is like 35.3% which means he will score like 68 pts per game by playing all 48 minutes and taking all shots.

  • CJSHYY
  • sws94

    He had a bad offensive game up to the 4th quarter and then he started to play well later in the 4th. He had a solid, excellent defensive game but not offensive game. He’s had great games in a small amount of minutes bringing the team back by making assists and buckets in this same system. He had no more chance in those games than he did in this game. I don’t like making excuses for Lin when he doesn’t perform to his standards. Sometimes he doesn’t, sometimes players don’t play up to their capabilities. Lin included.

    This system is fine for Lin. It’s not ideal, but it is a more organized, better system than what he had in LA and Houston.

  • KHuang

    Cho might be kicked out simply for having gotten Lin, regardless of the record.

    If the team excels and Cho’s booted anyway, then I’ll know I was right.

  • KHuang

    Oh good.

    That means Lin won’t have to carry the starters until the 2nd half after the starters have stunk up the game.

  • KHuang

    As long as Kemba Walker is PROTECTED by Lin, Walker can put up great numbers.

  • sws94

    Huh? I’m thinking Lin is fan favorite and he’s doing enough to keep MJ happy. I think MJ seeing Lin making big plays in the clutch has him believing in Lin. Lin just has to be less mistake-prone and impose his will on the game earlier, but his clutch performances have been big.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I want Batum to play bc don’t like Lin back to starting SG for standing in 3P corner for no ball. smh!

  • KHuang

    Correct –

    BUT

    being a fan favorite has never helped Lin stay with a team in the NBA.

    The negative stigma of having an Asian American on a NBA team is still too strong, and I seriously doubt even Charlotte will be able to resist that.

  • Phillycheese

    Money is about status and what that confers on the basketball team, not how much he needs it.

  • KHuang

    Believe it or not, I don’t mind Lin in the corner.

    Lin’s best scoring usually comes from the corner. That’s because opponents cannot bring over an additional defender due to the baseline sealing off the defense.

    No, what I’m opposed to is the $2 million Asian unwanted reject being made to clean up the messes caused by the expensive starters.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t like Lin just as corner boy. smh!

  • cdblue10

    We have all witnessed Lin as a player,he’s always as a rhytmn player…he needs the ball on his hands before he’ll figured it out to dissect opponents,and he always have that clutch gene that separates him from other players,he’s always on the right place and in the right time when gme is on the line.It seems Batum is starting to recognized Lin as a significant teammate.Lin,Batum and Kemba can help each other out to maximize their potential but if they just put Lin on that corner and won’t even let him touch the ball then this team won’t even see the playoff…But I guessed Cliff and Batum have finally figured out Lin’s strength and tendencies.

  • sws94

    Lin is a great team mate and locker room guy and more than that, brings in so much marketing to any organization. Plus, he’s a winning player if used strategically which is what I think the NBA teams are trying to do. They feature him in marketing and use him strategically on the court. On the Hornets, he’s something of a hidden weapon or a spark weapon off of the bench.

  • cdblue10

    This is a significant game ….he needs to play.

  • CJSHYY

    BTW, what do you think about Wizards bench? Their bench seem to be good. There’s a good shooter.

  • sws94

    He got out of the corner plenty in the OT and 4Q last night. When he needs to score and make a difference, he does. He picks his spots. If Kemba and Batum are going well, he becomes the corner option if they drive into traffic and need to outlet a pass there.

  • sws94

    I think he should watch his PT. If he’s still feeling the bug, that’ll effect his play. He won’t have his usual energy.

  • CJSHYY

    Wizards bench are good. But it’s B2B game so…

  • cdblue10

    Our bench is good too…the only suspect on this game is the frontline but if Cliff will reduce Hawes minutes we willl win this game.

  • sws94

    He was considered overpaid in the Houston years and the 1 year with LA. So now he’s a bargain. Good strategy. He’ll have chances to make big money again. But he has to produce, more than he’s doing now.

  • CJSHYY

    I am surprised to see Hawes played so less min vs King? I don’t like his game.

  • cdblue10

    A lot of smart fans from Charlotte knows that Hawes is only effective if his 3’s are falling but other than that he is more of a liability than anything else.

  • KHuang

    Wizards bench is solid inside, a bit soft outside.

    Lin and Lamb shouldn’t have any trouble doing whatever they want against Sessions and Neal.

  • KHuang

    Until the Hornets sign Lin to a long term extension equal to what a nonAsian player of Lin’s statistical stature would do, I see no evidence to disprove my belief that Lin’s a two year rental who’ll be phased out next season even if he exercises his player option and opts in.

  • cdblue10

    There is one team I think that will gamble for him next season and that’s going to be NETS.I still believe that LIn can still end up as a 7-10mil player/year.

  • NONONO

    ” Were in not for OT, where he was fantastic, Lin would not have had a good game against the Kings.”? Really? Without Lin’s best defense through entire game, Hornets could have lost big in the first half and never had chance for OT no matter how Kemba did. If you could recalled the 3rd quarter, you should have had fair comparison. So far, as long as the game close, Cliff would keep Lin in the game, not always for Kemba. Why?

  • NONONO

    I really do not believe so. But we might have to wait for the season over to know it.

  • KHuang

    Nets, NO WAY.

    I cannot imagine Lionel Hollins even thinking that Lin can play in the NBA.

  • sws94

    Offensively Lin did not play well until the 4th quarter. He played alright in parts of the 2nd, but not well. I mentioned he was great defensively. Kaminsky was just as important as anyone in this game. Kemba doesn’t go crazy scoring in the 4th, with the support he got from everyone on the floor with him, not only Lin, everyone. There is no OT without Kemba’s great performance. 21 points in 1 quarter with the variety of ways he scored is amazing. Kemba only didn’t finish one game, Lin didn’t finish a close game once. Both have finished most games.

    I say I like Clifford because Lin finishes close games. He does for defense and his ability to make big plays. Kemba is in the game to run the offense and because he has secure handles. Batum is in the game too for facilitation/scoring/defense. It’s a good combination of players having strengths they bring in the crunch time but Lin and Kemba are more clutch than Batum is.

  • DX

    There were rumors that the Houston Rockets and the Los Angeles Lakers could have made a run at Steve Clifford if he was a free agent coach.

    http://swarmandsting.com/2015/11/25/the-charlotte-hornets-and-steve-clifford-agree-to-a-three-year-contract-extension/

  • sws94

    Lin is also a sloppier player than a lot of starting point guards and that’s the weakness of his game that makes organizations want to use him as a strategic element but not have him as a primary ball handler. Lin is so dangerous as a PG, the opposing teams looked at film and concluded the way to slow Lin down or prevent rhythm was to go at him defensively to disrupt his dribble. Lin still hasn’t totally overcome how to still get to his spots, a little slowed down, but get there under hard pressure. I watched Shroder of the Hawks get hard pressure and he got to his spots and he’s a backup for Atlanta. That’s something Lin continues to need to work on.

    When looking at a players game we have to look at everything. Every year defenses scheme and adjust and players have to adjust. Lin has to adjust to more pressure and schemes against him. Kemba remains a stronger PG to get to his spots under pressure, and Kemba won’t be schemed like Lin because he doesn’t involve his team mates as much. Even when he is, he handles pressure well. He takes bad shots, but he doesn’t look like he’s as disrupted by the pressure.

    Yes, Batum is passing to Lin and I was never, ever worried that he wouldn’t. I think the plan is to get Lin into the Kemba/Batum unit at more times in the games and figure out just when to have Lin go for his vs. Kemba and Batum.

  • NONONO

    Kemba does not run offense. He is only doing his own offense well when he has hot hands. How many times Lin led the 2unit to save the game? If you look the stats, the best lineups for the past 7 games which Lin had some meaningful mins, can you tell who is in the best lineups and who is not.

  • DX

    Hawes? Really?

  • cdblue10

    I think Hollins will be out next year,his type of coaching is obsolete and boring

  • sws94

    He runs the offense as a shoot-first PG. But he has plenty of times gotten the ball to Al, his favorite target, or shared facilitation with Batum. He runs it in the sense that when the pressure is on, the ball goes to the PG as the best ball handler on the team. I think we are underestimating the importance of having a secure ball handler. That’s Kemba’s appeal, his ball handling.

    The first unit has had some terrible starts where Lin saved them but they’ve played quite well plenty of times too. Lin doesn’t always save them in the 2nd unit. Some games yes, but some games no like the SA Spurs game.

    Lin is in a lot of the best lineups. But his production has been uneven offensively (and will get better when his jump shot improves). It’s his steady defensive production that I think has Cliff put him in the lineup with the starters in crucial times in the games.

  • sws94

    And there’s no guarantee his replacement would be any better. Jared Jack is also playing well as starting PG. He’s not my favorite player, but he’s playing ok. Lin would be better starting on the Knicks as he’s head and shoulders better than any of the PG’s there.

    Nets aren’t a good team, Hornets are better.

  • NONONO

    I like use the facts (data) to prove my points. It is not because i am a Lin fan. I thought he did just OK with pts and TOs until i check more advanced data. Believe me, Cliff knows more than this data to sit Kemba in 4q of two close games. Kemba’s passes seem more to AL. It does not work most of time this season. So they sit AL. Kemba would only be in the close game if he is hot. Lin will because he could play well on both ends.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Media malpractice. Somebody’s opinion NOT a rumor.

  • cdblue10

    Right now,no doubt…Hornets is a better team than Nets but remember that Lin signed on Hornets to justify his next contract on next season,he’s just playing this year out as a leverage….I still don’t count the Hornets as a contender to resign Lin,if they’ll give him 7-10mil next year he will resign but if a bigger role will emerge,Lin will go on that franchise.

  • sws94

    I watch a lot of basketball and can see areas where Lin needs to improve vs. other PGs, starting and backup, and areas he is way ahead of them, and my pointing out where he needs to improve will make him improve. If we just talk about what is great, he won’t be as good as he can be. Ball handling under pressure is something he needs to improve at. Mid-range jump shooting is another. The PG duties are harder to know because if a player is out of position, that messes up Lin’s timing and where to throw the ball so he has to come up with something else.

    I don’t think the game is always about stats. I think it is more about feel and really, confidence. When Lin gets his handling the ball under pressure stronger then that makes both his confidence and players confidence in him stronger. That’s why I mention what I do. To show where he can improve and gives a better chance to get the confidence of the NBA coaches and players higher in him.

  • sws94

    I’m going to put it this way. What we say won’t improve Lin or what I say or any fan. What I mean is he improves by working on the parts of the game that needs improvement. Lin works hard and he will. Curry improved his handle and passing and defense, LeBron improved his shooting and post-up play when he was in his prime, Lin like anyone else needs to improve areas of his game. And I think he will because he’s a hard worker and a winner. I think as the season goes on, he’ll show improvements in ball handling and shooting.

  • sws94

    That’s up to Lin. Right now, he just needs to have fun playing with Charlotte and do the best that he can. He can weigh his options when the season is over and hopefully he won’t be traded. How he performed will give him leverage as to what he may think is his worth in whatever he decides to do.

  • NONONO

    the stats are the best for predict the future or help players to improve.

  • NONONO

    I only compare Lin with Kemba on PG position here. They both need to improve. Both have ups and downs. I wouldn’t use Kemba’s one big game (ONLY in 4th quarter) to compare Lin’s 38 pts over Spurs and Lakers when he played as PG. I could compare them from last years two head to head games when Lin led tanking Lakers made Hornets miserable.

  • sws94

    Lin’s 38 point game was 2 years ago, Kemba’s 39 point game and other 30 point performance in NY were very recent. Kemba and Lin head to head favors Kemba. I didn’t say Kemba didn’t need a lot of improvement either but in the very important aspect of ball security and handling, Kemba is quite ahead of Lin and he’s scoring too. He’s shooting more efficiently and getting more assists. Lin isn’t outplaying Kemba in Charlotte and hasn’t had a game that is close to Kemba’s two 30 point plus games yet. Nor has he had as big a 4Q yet or that I can even remember in his career and Lin has had some big 4Qs.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I hope Lin will get to play with Kemba more especially in the 4Q. Seem like most people are underestimating the deadly important of 2 quick ball handlers on the floor together. Once Lin gets back his shooting touch, they will become a very hard to guard back court.

  • NONONO

    Please compare them when they played as PGs. Out of hundreds games they played, how many times Lin actually played as PG? But when he played as PG for 20+ mins, his average TEAM stats is much better than many top PGs, not just better than Kemba.

  • cdblue10

    If Lin,Batum and Kemba will figure out how to play each other and set aside ego,this team will be dangerous.

  • JoeTeam

    good one, media malpractice. Since media is so fragmented now, with small ad dollars going en mass to google etc, then what is social media malpractice? Incited maybe. That’s a problem with democratizing the public voice, where there is no incentive to report in editorially correct ways because it is not popular so loses half the audience. Then it amps the point counterpoint until there is never consensus around the truth, if that can be understood for any situation.

  • sws94

    I said in the other comment, things have changed. Lin is being scouted and defenses are scheming more against him. Lin also doesn’t have a PnR big now, and that impacts how he plays PG. The only reason to even think of Lin and Kemba changing PG roles is if Lin, based on how he has performed as a Hornet and only that, performed way, way better than Kemba. And he hasn’t. So Lin has to be used best going forward with Kemba as starting PG and Lin as a facilitator that just doesn’t bring the ball up or start the offense. But he’s still a facilitator when need be and he still has a chance when not on the floor with Kemba to run an offense.

    Anyway, Lin said in a tweet to fans he doesn’t want to take Kemba out of the starting role and wanted to play besides him.

  • sws94

    That’s what they are doing. But it takes time. And Kemba will have the ball in his hands more than Nic or Lin. He just has to make sure Nic and Lin get touches and make decisions of what to do with the ball. And I see signs of that happening. But it’ll take time to get the balance right.

  • JoeTeam

    GSW on the LAL win streak … I just read an article where they say GSW now have to go after the 30 or so win streak that LAL holds. That game will be against … you guessed it, JLin in Jan. So, let us root for GSW taking it all the way to that brink, and let us hope for an excellent game by JLin, if GSW gets past the next 10 games. How fitting, give our man the big stage.

  • Rick Johnson

    It’s pretty bad when you’re playing so bad its a story that makes it to non-sports media.

    https://twitter.com/esquire/status/669568852393664512

  • cdblue10

    Two more thing that Cliff needs to fix are that offensive alignment where Lin is standing in the corner and Hawes being the PnR player.Hawes should play the Tyler role,he’s insignificant on this team.

  • sws94

    Hopefully, Frank takes over Hawes’s role. Go Frank.

  • NONONO

    If we can stop John Wall, we can beat Wizards.
    We all know Wall is one of top PGs. People and media keep criticize Lin’s TOs. Do they know John Wall avg TOs is 4.5 with 33 mins play time and same fg% as Lin.

  • cdblue10

    I love his game,even he’s just a rookie he’s always on the flow of the game where ball and body moves constantly.I’m rooting on this rookie too,hope he gets Hawes playing time.

  • JoeTeam

    Kobe was at his best in the past 3 yrs when we saw pics of him at the World Cup, and there was talk about him getting into a soccer team. That is, he was looking like planning a retirement that was fitting of a past great athlete. We saw that in Ronnie Lot, who formed a group to invest in startups … called Champion. They had some good deals and I think there was one troubled one, but that was a good try to graduate to the next step in life at such a young age (30s). There are probably thousands of people who made that transition well for their families, community.

    Kobe chose a losing path, and he doesn’t like to lose and look bad. Let’s hope he takes his resources and what’s left of his reputation and moves on to help the world in a better way.

    We know one thing – JLin is already setting himself up for being very effective on the starting team, court, and game of using his resources to help the world. I’m a fan of this and future times!

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    I believe media lost their half the audience when they’re caught lying/misleading or hiding the true. Thanks God for us to have multiple sources to choose before making our own conclusion.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    My major concern was at least couple times, Clifford said he was trying to insert Lamb to close the game, after their major come back victory which was led by Lin’s defense.

  • wandertheglobe

    Too late, MJ locked Cliff up for 3 more years, just announced.

  • cdblue10

    I think that’s only a lip service for Lamb bec. Cliff is a closet LOF….lol.Kidding aside,I think Cliff had already figure out that his defensive especialists on this team are Lin,Williams and Zeller and these 3 are better closer than Lamb.

  • NONONO

    He really missed Lin. So he would have blamed on him like last year.

  • cdblue10

    I hope the Asian kid is still here and he can get all the blame.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    They won’t make it, their first lost will be on 12/2 if they put Lin to guard Curry.

  • NONONO

    I wish JLin could convince Cliff to let him play 25 mins as PG by then.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Isn’t it a good feeling to know that Lin’s no longer there?

  • KHuang

    Kobe is not a winner.

    If he was, he’d have done his entire career differently and handled people like Lin much better.

    Bryant has had ample chances to reform himself. But he has refused them all because he DOESN’T WANT TO WIN.

  • cdblue10

    Absolutely.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How he treated Shaq tells all about who he is. If the Lakers didn’t get Gasol, Kobe would never had another ring since.

  • John Ly

    Not to take anything away from Lin but how Curry is performing this season with his quick release and deadly accuracy, I don’t believe anybody can stop him. Even if Lin tries to guard Curry, the screens that will be set by GSW to free up Curry will give Curry enough time to hit his shot. Lin is an okay defender and tend to slack off every so often with his mental lapses when helping out his teammates in help defense. Lin will not out perform Curry because Lin doesn’t have the shots, he doesn’t have Bigs who can set good screens for him, the ball is not in his hands most of the time and he can’t build a rhythm because he doesn’t have the ball in his hands.

  • sws94

    Nobody is guarding Curry. Not Bradley, LeBron, Leonard, absolutely nobody. GSW is clicking now and playing a higher level of basketball than most, if not all, NBA teams.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    You’re right about Curry. Lin won’t stop him but he can slow him down. Lin knows him best since he’s a Rocket. They’re also teammates/ friends and practiced together. To make Curry to need screen for help free from Lin is a big plus, Curry does not need that when play against other guards.

  • John Ly

    If Lin has control of the ball and he is making his shots and also involving his teammates by making plays then people can overlook his TOs because if you follow all of the other PGs such as Lillard, CP, Rondo, etc. they sometime have like 3+ TO per game and nobody says boo to them about the TOs. The media has spun it that every time Lin makes one it’s like he is prone to do that. Some of his TOs are bone headed plays, but the majority are due to teammates not being position or not being able to catch his pass. NBA is a crooked stat league and it depends the way the wind blows for the media coverage. You can have 7 TO and score 30+ points and people will herald you as a hero.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    What would be funnier? If Kobe shot a 3 and it bounced off Byron’s head? Or if it hit Byron in the chest and he finally had to unfold his arms to catch it?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    If I hated a super model, I would find one of her toes ugly to call out.

  • NONONO

    GSW might be the greatest. But I think Hornets might have a chance to beat them if Hornets put up their best lineups to fight.

    On Dec 23, 2014 ( GSW is 23-4, Lakers was 9-19). Lakers beat GSW 115-105! Check the TEAM stats, Lin played as PG for 20mins for the tanking Lakers. Kobe did not play! Please look who was playing with Lin for the winning lineup – the bench!

    GSW is much better this year, Hornets is much better than last year’s Lakers. Why wouldn’t Hornets have a chance?

  • cdblue10

    In NBA basketball,the only things that the fans remembered the most were the players that scores more in the 4th quarters and the buzzer beaters.

  • JJ Hui

    Isnt Harden had 13 or 14 TO in a game before?

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Washington post predicted 5 best chance games GS will lose but they missed the first 3. Their fifth/last prediction is Charlotte on 12-2.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/11/17/five-games-that-could-end-the-warriors-winning-streak/

  • NONONO

    well said.

  • Rick Johnson

    Soft. LOL

    https://twitter.com/kc1nyk/status/669595105746132993

    Though we know Byron Scott and Kobe are the root cause.

  • blubell
  • NONONO

    Unless Hornets did not believe themselves. I think what made BS hate Lin so much was that Lin had been trying so hard to WIN for Lakers even with his very limited and inconsistent roles. It threaten BS’s tanking plan.

    “Lin, who wasn’t thrilled with his demotion to the bench, claims that he believes the Lakers can miraculously qualify for the postseason in the brutal Western Conference.” (Dec. 8 , 2014, after Lakers 5-16 starts).

    http://www.slamonline.com/nba/jeremy-lin-lakers-think-team-can-make-playoffs/#FVRDAhOQWIDEDFhh.97

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The extra extra motivation of beating the undefeated team is overwhelming. Oh yes, the Hornets are going to treat this game like the playoff one.

  • FrankW

    He had 12 last season against GS, set the NBA playoff record in a single game.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Their last victory was not just any victory. To come back win like that gave them the reason to trust more among themselves. Bonding.

  • sws94

    I wouldn’t expect to see much Lin on Curry and I don’t think Curry is can be guarded anyway. Kemba will guard him, then Batum if the game is close while Lin would be put on Thompson. I don’t think Curry needs picks to deal with the better defensive guards and Lin is one of them. He has a lot of quick lateral movements plus the ability to get his shot off super quick. That is what makes him so hard to guard, how quickly he gets his shot off by space he creates off his handle/lateral movement.

  • GoodDayLA

    anyone with eyes can see Chartlotte will be blown out by the Warrios as things currently stands. Clifford is not subbing right and using the right players in the right roles for all 48 minutes.

    Warriors will proably blow out Charlotte by 15 points in December when they meet in Charlotte.

    To think otherwise is just ridiculous barring Clifford having an epiphany.

  • Acbc

    I’m surprise you would make such a blanket statement. Look at the stats! Curry shoots 44% from the 3s. That’s insane numbers but it also means he misses 56% of the time. Until curry shoots 80-90% from the 3s, I’ll never conceded that Curry is too good for anyone.

  • Linja

    And KB blamed the Coach’s system.

  • NONONO

    Check out how the worst team beat the best team by slowing Curry down (7 TOs, 22pts, -10) in Dec, 2014 Lin had 3 steals, 5 assists and +4 in 25 mins as PG.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-golden-state-warriors-live-updates-20141223-story.html

  • Linja

    Is there a possibility that Hornets give Lin a long term before the season ends?

  • NONONO

    I hope they do it on 12/15 trading deadline. Possible? Teams owners would try to make offers before 2016 cap increase.

  • Rick Johnson

    Ya, Clifford’s usual starting lineup got blown out by lowly Sacramento. Forget about GSW.

  • NONONO

    I hope he will makes corrections after he just got the contract extension,

  • sws94

    How should he sub?

  • CJSHYY

    I agree w you on Clifford is not subbing right and using the right players in the right roles for all 48 minutes.

    Unless GSW have bad shooting night otherwise Hornets will be hard to beat GSW.

  • sws94

    44 percent from 3 is excellent. Who is guarding Curry and holding him down to less than 20 points a game? Who? Even if Curry has a lot of TOs and relatively sloppy game and stuggles under some pressure he still has stats that are all-star impressive.

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe throwing first coach, now teammates under bus?

    https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/669593309875208192

    “Somehow, last year’s 21-61 record might seem like an achievement.”

  • 1mtoldman

    oh i expect it will; last years team had the talent the talent was just not utilized; this years team is a mix of raw youth and old has beens.

    i fully expected all the way that lakers would absolutely acheive their real goal of falling to bottom (top) three to keep their dp.

    this years team had to be worse than last cause last year all they had to be was bottom five this year they have to be bottom 3.

  • 1mtoldman

    wall is not having a particularly good year; a bigger factor for me would be how bradley beal does just recently returning from injury.

    washington doesn’t have any other particularly top notch players, the hornets have been getting pounded (not surprisingly) by big men: boogie kporz but also brook lopez, joe johnson, pretty much anyone they go up against, its clearly recognized hornets bigs defense is suspect but the thing is washington doens’t have any dominant scoring bigs, even big al mite be able to contain marcin gortat.

    nene (not the naenae riley curry dances to with lin)–had a good game last game but that was probably an accident.

  • 1mtoldman

    i would say the later.

  • Rick Johnson

    I hope they get to the bottom 3 and then lose the top 3 pick in the lottery. Karma

  • 1mtoldman

    it is hinted by some hornets fans that cliff’s camp leaked this themselves to push to get the extension.

    no evidence but just a “sauces say” speculation. would make sense and just be good strategy if cliff wants to stay in charlotte. (wanted to stay in charlotte)>

  • CJSHYY

    Here what Kobe said about his poor performance.

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/669408585852567552

  • Rick Johnson

    Wish Hornets teammates / coach would care as much about JLin:

    https://twitter.com/forumbluegold/status/667945825968898048

  • 1mtoldman

    that could very easily happen cause last year they moved up; of course passed on kporz for the forgettable dlor

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes. NYK finished bottom 2 but fell out to 4 due to lottery. They still did fine at 4 picking up kporz. But if that same thing happens to the Lakers they would lose the #4 pick to PHI. And I hope BScott is their representative there again when that happens

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    According to normal rotation then yes you’re right but as game plays on, Lin will guard Curry eventually so Kemba can focus more on scoring.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    How about keep it internally? To get somebody more means less to someone else.

  • Rick Johnson

    Denver melting down now? They should have gone with D’Antoni and JLin. Bad choice:

    https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/669606369486487553

  • LinMad

    I’ve predicted 5 wins this season for the Lakers before preseason even started. I’ve also predicted that Hornets will be a top 4 team in the Eastern Conference. Lets see if that happens.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Did they even interview D’A?

  • Rick Johnson

    Yep:

    Report: Denver Nuggets interview Mike D’Antoni for head coach position

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13007244/denver-nuggets-interview-mike-dantoni-head-coach-position

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Bad decision after all.

  • 1mtoldman

    denver already melted down last year remember when shaw said his team was conspiring against him to play bad so he’d be fired?

    its too early for them to be melting down again.

  • CJSHYY

    That’s really good. It’s contract year for Lin too. I hope they can let him has good stats too.

  • 1mtoldman

    washington is giving up more points per game than any team in the east and actually has the 4th worst point differential in the east.

    hornets are virtually tied with cleveland for most points per game.

    in theory: hornets high powered offense vs. washingtons weak defense should favor a hornets win especially at home where hornets have been much more sucessfull than on the road

    of course as always: “past performance is no guarantee of future results”.

    note: washington is actually giving up more points per game than the lakers.

  • Rick Johnson

    Run and Gun with D’Antoni would be deadly in Denver. Opposing teams would run out of gas in the thin air of Denver trying to run with a young fast team. Definite home court advantage. George Karl used that to his advantage.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think they started out okay, they are now 6-9 after losing last 4. So they must have been 6-5 before that.

  • 1mtoldman

    dont even need japanese algebra to figure that out.

  • sport

    Big contract and starting role as PG/SG sounds about right. Especially PG with 2nd unit when Walker’s resting.

  • new game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g15-was-cha-game-thread/

    After a slow start, JLin contributed big time in the OT Win with his clutch 8pts out of 14 Hornets OT points. Against John Wall and the Wizards, the Hornets could have a great chance to win tonight since the Wizards played a game last night against Pacers so their tired legs might slow them down a bit

    1. Would we see Kemba/Lin/Batum/Frank/Zeller lineup that were the most effective in the 22-pt comeback win?
    2. Will Jeremy find the comfort to shoot well in the 1st half?
    3. With 4 consecutive games of averaging 28+min/game (31 min), would Coach Clifford run some plays for JLin to get going quickly? JLin presence in the closing lineup has definitely provided good defense and offense in the 2nd half and OT.

    Let’s go, JLin! Relax, be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens

  • sport

    Lin will definitely be motivated this game, just hope he doesn’t pick up tacky fouls from the always bias refs.

  • blubell

    Funny because before the season started so many BB “experts” and media were saying this year’s roster is much better talent-wise than last year and they might have a chance of making the playoffs. LOLOL

  • Linja

    Thanks.
    Too much KB, worthless use of mind.

  • JoeTeam

    But social media news is also problematic even as it opens up channels for truth.

  • GoodDayLA

    Lin should get 10 minutes per half at the exclusive ball dominant PG position. With Lamb, Zeller, Frank, and Marvin or Nic

  • Andrew Ho

    Hey K.P. thanks for your thoughtful reply! I also agree there’s always two sides to a story, unfortunately since I can’t control what others do or say, I can only try and hope to do my part well – which is imo to be a “classy” (as you put it) poster on other’s forums. I like your points too so here’s my reply to them:

    1) Totally agree that it is irrational and immature to dislike Lin because of some of his fans! There is no logical reason for this at all. But people are creatures of EMOTION a lot of the time imo. And at the height of emotion they will say or do illogical things. I actually think the number of people who HATE Lin in the literal sense of the word is few. What I think is going on is that people dislike some of Lin’s FANS and this makes them automatically take the opposite side of the argument. They will focus/over-emphasize on Lin’s mistakes for example not because they HATE Lin, but because they want to take a shot at the Lin FANS. It is not logical, it is totally emotional. Take McHale – now I don’t know if he HATES Lin or not. This could be debated till the end of time. What I do notice is that whenever reporters asked too many questions about Lin he got annoyed and tried to cut the answer short by not talking too much about Lin. So one could interpret this as he HATES Lin, or he got annoyed at the reporter (or Lin Fan in the context of my overall point) and thus played it down in his answer about Lin’s performance.

    2) No it’s not widespread. I do think the majority of Lin fans are classy posters. Unfortunately it is human nature (actually studies have been done on this) that “negative” things are remembered more than “positive” things. So the “non-classy” comment and posters are remembered more! In couples counseling context, studies have shown that it takes 5 “happy” events to neutralize just 1 “unhappy” event! So if we apply this math to Lin fan posting, then for every “non-classy” Lin fan poster, it would take 5 “classy” Lin fan posters just to erase the bad taste in the mouths of the non-Lin fan readers. And this is just to break even.

    3) Have seen this over-generalizing of Lin fans too and it sucks. As I mentioned at the top of this post, I can’t control what others think. I will try my best to control what I say, which imo is to be mindful of HOW I say things. Which in turn, imo, will make what I say more persuasive. After all, I assume we as Lin fans post on other forums to try to be persuasive. If we post in a manner that is not persuasive and actually triggers others to argue against us just for the sake of it (because of our tone or impoliteness), then we have just sabotaged ourselves!

  • K. P. Chan

    Hi Andrew! Really well-put. I agree with you whole-heartedly after you’ve expressed your views this way. I think you are very perceptive.

    One thing I hadn’t thought about as I casually dismissed Lin detractors was that their resentment was actually directed at us, the Lin fans, and not necessarily to Lin per se, because of the negative manner in which some of us expressed ourselves. And in doing so, they must necessarily cast aspersions on Lin in order to refute our views.

    As a result, our actions can directly cause harm to Lin, and certainly if nothing else, become fodder for the haters’ ridicule of us.

    So your advice is extremely valuable. Thank you for taking the time to explain to me.

  • Andrew Ho

    Hi K.P.! Thanks!. At the end of the day, whether we are debating Lin or any other topic under the sun, I think at the core of it is interpersonal relationship and communication. I try to read up on this kind of thing because as a married guy, it’s key to smooth sailing imo. I’m guilty of it too, e.g. when having an argument with the wifey if I feel her tone is bad, then sometimes I can’t help to bring up something small or irrelevant just for the sake of firing back! It’s like an auto-defense mechanism.
    Of course, there will always be those who really just dislike Lin per se (for whatever reason, jealousy, racism), and nothing we say will change that!
    Anyway, great to see kind words for my post from a long-time active Lin fan such as yourself (I’ve seen your posts in various places like Twitter etc)! Looking forward to the GSW game!

  • K. P. Chan

    Haha! Andrew, great advice on marriage. I see exactly what you mean as someone who has been married to the same woman for the last 43 years. Sometimes it’s hard work, but mostly it is just a smile, a shrug, or silence, with a good dose of understanding and affection.

    Yes, I do tweet quite a lot. Most the time it’s just getting stuff off my chest. But hopefully enough people will advocate for Lin (calmly and cordially of course!) so people will take note.

    I look forward to the GSW game too. No Lin, no win! Oops! Sorry I did it again. Lol!

  • Andrew Ho

    43 years! Good job mate! Haha no lin, no win….you’re off the hook this time 😉