G13 PHI @CHA Observation & Notes

In Jeremy Lin’s surprising 1st start of the season, Jeremy finished with 9pts/2asts/3rebs in 29 min.

  • It was a mixed performance since Jeremy energized the starters in the 1st half as an SG but did not have as many chances to be the playmaker as he shared the ball with Batum and Kemba to initiate offense.  It’s understandable as they continue to learn to play together to develop chemistry.
  • Unfortunately, Coach Clifford also experimented with having Brian Roberts to play as a PG in the 2nd unit but he was not able to direct the offense. The ball movement was not as fluid as Jeremy Lamb, Hawes, Roberts would be too quick to pull the trigger. Perhaps it was due to multiple changing lineups that Coach was eager to try vs. the winless 76ers.
  • 76ers as a team kept shooting themselves on the foot with 17TOs so they were not a threat to make this into a competitive game.
  • JLin 3pt shooting stroke seemed back to his good preseason form so it’s a great progress as Hornets finished their 2nd of 7 game long home-stand. There will be 2 days before the next game vs Rondo/Cousins with the Kings on Monday so JLin would definitely benefit from extra practices to regain his excellent preseason shooting form.
  • Lin would also need to be careful with not over-helping on team defense as he left 6’6″ Nik Stauskas too open to drain 3 threes. With tall SGs, it’s harder for JLin to run back to challenge them with 3pt shots.

A win is a win as the Hornets has 7-6 record. It remains to be seen if Coach Clifford will continue to experiment with JLin at the starting lineup when Hairston and Zeller are back from injuries. One thing JLin has to do is to remain aggressive by being a playmaker or PG role; what makes it complicated is when Coach Clifford set up a game plan for him to be the SG. In the long term, Coach Clifford will certainly recognize JLin can contribute the best with the ball in his hands. JLin also made a great, well-timed block as he continued to showcase his great defense

Earlier today. JLin conducted a fun interview with WFNZ Radio


MEMBERS POLL

Guess JLin's stats in Game 14 vs SAC
  • Spot

    First!

  • Spot

    From now on we will know if Hornets can be a real play-off team. Next games are:

    Sacramento
    Washington
    Cleveland
    Milwaukee
    GSW
    Chicago
    Detroit
    Miami
    Memphis

  • leeda harun

    The second phase…need a lot of grit, chemistry, sacri fice and team work…if the hornet can do this they are going to the playoff.

  • DX

    Hope 6-2.

  • Spot

    I’d be shocked if they win the majority of these games.

  • CJSHYY

    Why?

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s divine design to stop the FO from meddling with coach Clifford’s design for the team. Trust God will take Jeremy to the next level when the team has to merge really well for this phase of schedule. Boy, it’s a real challenging to any team except GSW.

  • CJSHYY
  • zxcvb

    Obviously, it’s annoying to see Lin not get stats in a start, but it’s important to remember how good he looked in the first half.

    Once the game was over (at the half), Lin’s immature, low IQ teammates went stat-padding for themselves, hogging the ball and ruining Lin’s touches when he was open (fouls, TOs, etc.). The ironic thing is that almost everyone shot worse by trying to “get theirs.” Only Al was hot both halves.

    Anyway, I know people will grouse since there’s 2 days off, but let’s see what happens in a REAL game that’s not a 25pt laugher in the 2nd quarter. Even during Linsanity, Lin would have low stats in a blowout win. When he’s not needed, he doesn’t force shots, and if his teammates don’t pass to him when open, there’s nothing he can do.

  • sws94

    I’d take 5-4. That would be respectable.

  • CJSHYY

    I think if they continue to play like this they sure will not make it to playoff. Today was vs 76…

  • zxcvb

    I agree. The first half shows me how good they can be when they share with Lin.

    The second half showed me why they’ll likely miss the playoffs: because they only care about their own stats. Selfish, low IQ teammates are the bane of Lin’s existence.

  • occupatio

    I dont think Kemba is ‘selfish.’ It’s more like he’s incapable of playing much differently than he currently does. It’s a mix of habit from his previous role on the team up till now, and limitations in how much he can see the floor, plus his confidence in himself.

  • sws94

    I don’t think Lin was frozen out by his team mates in the 2nd half. I think that Kemba reverted somewhat to creating just for himself and that since the lead was so big that the others just didn’t buckle down and execute offense like they did in the first half. Lin also reverted into not involving himself. You can’t always look at others with Lin. Lin really didn’t have to stay in the corner, it seems like he just became an observer for most of the 2nd half and I’m not sure why. He even did that in the 2nd unit.

    I say Lin didn’t have to stay in the corner because he didn’t do much of that in the first quarter nor did he do much of that in the 4th quarter with the starters closing out the Brooklyn game Wednesday night. I think he made that choice in the 2nd half tonight.

    It’s possible Lin lost his focus in this game some due to it not really being that competitive. He lost his guy on defense a few times too. I’m not going to put that much into this game past the good first quarter with the starters. After that, some of the guys didn’t give a big effort, their game intensity wasn’t that high. And that includes Lin.

  • zxcvb

    He’s been mostly unselfish this season with two exceptions. His 31pt loss (where he was -17!) and in the second half tonight. When he DID pass Lin the ball, he screwed up so royally it was almost 2 TOs on the same play. Couldn’t even make a simply feed to Lin near the elbow.

  • Acbc

    The timing of this start coincides with other events. The firing of Mchale, Morey being on the hot seat and the lies spread by M&M have all swung positively for Lin, while Morey,s reputation keeps dropping like a rock. The truth is coming out for all to see that Lin was never a bench player and that Linsanity is alive and better now than ever. The article today and others recently have all made the experts shudder in fear for their complicity in the effort to bury Lin.

    The Hornets and perhaps MJ jolted the media that Lin would be the most important signing this year for his team. Maybe MJ finally decided that he had to intervene and keep Lin a happy Hornet player.

  • CJSHYY

    Even coach said 2nd half it’s not right… I think the key it’s Kemba.

  • occupatio

    I guess he wanted to put on his show for his fam in NY.
    But more to the point, Kemba will be Kemba. It’s not a problem in his attitude, but an inherent limitation.

  • sws94

    Lin Kemba chemistry needs work. I think the bad Kemba passes were lack of execution, not selfish intent.

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t forget vs NYK in MSG. That sure showed Batum I am still #1 guy in the team. smh!

  • sws94

    Lin actually pointed away from himself to pass to others when Kemba looked at him one time. For some reason, it almost seems like Lin wanted the play to go to the side opposite himself.

  • zxcvb

    The pass wasn’t selfish. The fact that he didn’t even think to pass to Lin until then was selfish.

    And when he did pass, he was incompetent. How can Lin score when he’s not even getting the ball? Kemba couldn’t even get him the damn ball!

  • sws94

    In all fairness to Kemba, Batum had a bad game. Batum just wasn’t hitting his shots or really in sync for most of that game. When Al was going early, Kemba fed him. In the 2nd, nobody was really going so Kemba got going.

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  • occupatio

    You said it yourself, Kemba is incapable of seeing it and executing it. It’s not just a matter of him choosing not to.

  • sws94

    I don’t think it’s selfish more than trying to work Lin in. He’s used to Al and some others in the starting lineup and getting used to Batum. But he’s still figuring out how to work Lin in.

  • zxcvb

    He doesn’t have to pass to Lin directly. Just move the ball. That’s what they did in the first half.

    In the 2nd half, everyone but Lin just hogged for themselves. Again, I excuse the behavior a little since it’s a blowout win — it happens. But I’m not gonna sit here and blame Lin for not scoring w/o the ball.

  • occupatio

    disagree. if they get the ball in good spots, they will hit them at a decent rate no matter how ‘cold’ they are. if they arent playing 5-on-5, they are not going to get those looks.

  • zxcvb

    That’s why I excuse it for now. Lin’s first start ever in CHA and it was a blowout. Easy to stop playing teamball and resort to streetball.

    I just don’t want to hear that Lin “played passive” tonight. No, he didn’t. He did great in the 1st half when the game was on the line. When the game was over (2nd half), guys stopped passing him the ball regularly and he coasted.

  • CJSHYY

    Kemba sure wants to keep #1 guy position as simple as that. That MSG iso show said it all. NBA is very competitive work place. Anytime & anyone can replace you.

  • occupatio

    i dont think anyone said lin played ‘passive’ tonight.

  • zxcvb

    A ton of people did. Even the post above my original post says Lin stopped shooting because he chose not to.

  • CJSHYY

    Exactly, Batum didn’t get the ball for a LONG LONG time…. how could he get ready for sync…..

  • sws94

    Lin’s first basket was a feed from Kemba. Lin got inside and Kemba found him and fed him the ball. Part of Lin getting the ball is moving off ball. If Lin just stays in the corner, and he really isn’t shooting the 3 well, not a lot of guys are going to pass him the ball. If he’s inside or at a place where he can get into the lane and make things happen, then they get him the ball.

  • occupatio

    ok, i guess i read posts on the board very selectively haha

  • sws94

    It was a blowout in the 3rd and then Philly chipped away. The team reverted to a lack of urgency that translated into a lack of ball movement that was present in the 1st quarter.

  • sws94

    He shot. He didn’t move off of the ball as much. I wouldn’t say passive, more it seemed he didn’t go to the ball as much and watched the plays happened on the other side of where he was. This was in the 2nd half. Not the first.

  • Guest

    Mmmmm…observation and notes! That’s way more better title than “Post game thread”!

  • occupatio

    i get your point about lin camping in corner. its hard to say where the blame goes. this is not a sophisticated offense run by cliff in which ppl are constantly moving. its not clear WHEN and HOW he is supposed to cut or move from the corner.
    at the same time, lin makes no indication he wants the ball, doesnt call for it, or look like he is ready to get a handoff from the wing guy (often batum). its hard to say from the outside what the real choices are.
    im not talking about tonight, but other games.

  • zxcvb

    Looks like Coach Clifford agrees with me. All his compliments about tonight are about the first half only:

    http://www.nba.com/hornets/coach-clifford-live-postgame-11/20/15#

    “Our game is ball movement… Our ball movement and our offensive purpose in the first half, I thought was really good.”

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin started today it’s from FO. Of course they do want to keep Lin & have to make him happy… Bc if not for a starting job why Lin needs to stay here next season? Like Lin said he turned down GSW back up PG job so why Lin will take Hornets back up PG job? This team is not even sure can make it to playoff in EC….

  • TTNN

    come on, Lin start because PJ and Zeller are injured.

  • sws94

    Exactly. I’m not sure why Lin didn’t make any indication he wanted the ball. He did very strongly in the first half. He didn’t very much in the 2nd. Only a few times. I have no idea why the change from the 1st to the 2nd halves.

  • sws94

    That’s what I thought. It’s simply who to put into the slot from the 2nd team.

  • occupatio

    cliff doesnt trust lamb on defensive assignments so he doesnt get the start.
    and tonight, looked at roberts running 2nd unit

  • TTNN

    He doesn’t have much energy, he used his most energy in defense, defending a 6’6 SG who likes to shoot 3s, Lin need to jump extra high to challenge it, that takes a lot of energy, so he could not take too much offensive load. Most of his missed shots were short. Lin’s offense took a lot of energy, and would not be effective when he is tired. That’s why coach want to start PJ, since he could not ask Batum to do both defense and offense.

  • sws94

    OK, that makes sense.

  • TTNN

    you could see the rank of coach trust in defense: PJ>Zeller>Lin>Lamb. You could also say the coach want the offense in the reverse order: Lamb>Lin>Zeller>PJ. So that’s the rank order of people sacrifize their offense for defense there.

  • Lam

    The leanstern conference is not so lean this year! 50-50 for hornets to be a playoff team.

  • occupatio

    yes. lin is in the role of worker bee tonight. playing defense so others can go on offense. its kinda sad.

  • TTNN

    He is playing the PJ’s role, pretty much. Kind of not happy coach take the ball out of his hand, to play him as SG. Lin had to defend harder players, and he has to play out of his position. I think Lin don’t mind to play SG to play along with Kemba and get more minutes, but not full time SG. Lin is currently play a filler role, basically playing whatever is needed by the team.

  • Spot

    My opinion

    Sacramento L
    Washington L
    Cleveland L
    Milwaukee W
    GSW L
    Chicago W/L
    Detroit L
    Miami L
    Memphis L

  • CJSHYY

    What? Only Milwaukee?

  • Steppen03

    No worries. Lin have to take what he gets. More minutes = more opportunities, period. Esp. with the starters – because they have more skills than 2nd unit players. Cannot judge by one game – KW, Al, Nic, Lamb, Lin – Not one will be Hot every night, every game. They are still learning how to play with each other. And they Will need have to rely on each other to do their part. Jeremy in for D or O, doesn’t matter – he’s on the court is what matters.

  • PETE B

    https://soundcloud.com/wfnz-610-am/steve-clifford-expectations-were-too-high-for-lance-4-20

    Guys and Gals this is what I feel Cliff and Lin spoke about this Free Agency , It’s a good listen to understand some of the background of Hornets and why and how Lin was recruited , and Batum added
    Interview is 13 minutes
    Needed 3 pt shooting range , BB IQ for passing , defense etc

  • Acbc

    Lol, none of are privy to the whys of FO or coaches actions. We can only agree on the fact that someone or something created the situation.

    I choose to believe a scenario that creates a path that allows Lin to be more relevant on this team AND add to the momentum building to chnage the misinformation about Lin.

    It wasn’t long ago when all the negativity on this board was calling for the head of the coaches. I choose to be hopeful instead of focussing on what lurks behind every shadow.

  • Spot

    To me it’s about matchups:

    Cousins will eat Al alive against Sacramento;
    Washington… OK, it will be interesting;
    Cleveland title contender;
    Milwaukee it depends Al vs Monroe;
    GSW title contender;
    Chicago depends on Rose and Gasol;
    Detroit Drummond is too athlethic for Al and I don’t think they can stop their pnr
    Miami Bosh and Whiteside under the rim
    Memphis Gasol and Zach under the rim.

  • PETE B

    I think its ironic that Clifford pushed the ball int Lance’s hands and Lin can’t get the ball in his hands enough this season
    and Linsanity only happend bc the ball was in Lin’s hands

  • Spot

    Clifford is McHale part 2

  • Spot

    What makes me sad is we got used to this treatment for Jeremy.

    This is worse than Houston: at least Rockets were a pretty good team and major touches went to Harden and Howard who, at least, are 2 really good players.

    Hornets are a mediocre team and major touches go to mediocre players like Al and Kemba.

    While we said bad things about McHale about letting Jeremy in the corner here we say good things about Clifford and his words, forgetting Lin is receiving a much worse treatment (Kemba, Al and Batum aren’t as good as Harden, Howard and Parsons. OK, Batum is better than Parsons).

    I usually don’t like Jeremy’s tiger fans but thank God they exist! At least they keep value Jeremy as a future star, which I agree.

    We’ll see what happens.

  • joyce ward

    This site is becoming so negative. Some of you are overthinking things. We are only 13 games in and you guys are complaining. Lin played 29 minutes and some of you, still are complaining.Lin needs to figure out how to balance his scoring and defense and he will.I am very hopeful about this team. They are having bible study together and that is always a good thing. So can yall chill for a minute.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Yeah. Lin is on his way taking his game to the next level. There are still lots of rooms for him to improve. Lin is working hard defensively and I think he has made some improvement. Of course, while he’s working on defense, his offense suffers a little bit. There got to be ups and downs this season. The important point is to get ready when it’s about time to fight for the playoff.

    This conference is a very competitive one; not like last year. The way I counts it. There are 13 teams fighting for 8 spots with Even Toronto Raptors is at the 8th and the Bucks at 13th right now.

    This is the situation which is most beneficiary to Jeremy Lin because the team has to put the best talent on court to survive. I’m all good even Lin has not been playing really well.

  • Spot

    I’m not complaining about teammates but just the fact Hornets don’t play good basketball and, regarding Jeremy, he’s playing out of position.
    It’s like using Lebron as spot up shooter. His weakness.

  • joyce ward

    He played out of position last night because Zeller had an ankle sprain.Lin will be leading the bench when Zeller comes back on rotation. Clifford knows the 1st unit is slow and a bunch of ballhogs. Besides lin is a combo guard. Clifford wanted lin to play the defensive position with 1st unit. Now lin has to put his offensive/defensive game together. Also lin is not a 25 million dollar man anymore where they are obligated to play him more minutes.Also I think it’s very rude of you to call his teammates mediocre. smh

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    who are the players that are having bible study?

  • joyce ward

    Lin didn’t say.

  • steven ko

    leaving his corner would interrupt the spacing on the floor

  • Guest

    I agree.

  • LinLinLin

    While I’m still hopeful, the stickiness in the 2nd half worries me a bit. The team still needs lots of practice and bonding. Championship or even 2nd round of playoffs can be only pipedream if Jeremy’s teammates chose to pad their stats instead of playing teamball in this blowout win.
    You need discipline and unselfishness to win in the playoffs.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Lin as starter simply is not getting enough touch…and when he plays with second units, Clifford has Roberts playing PG…That is where the mistake is made…Lin needs to play half of his minutes at PG so he can create and use PnR to get going.

    If starting means Lin doesn’t get to play PG at all, then I’d rather him come off the bench to get most of his minutes on the ball..

    If Clifford would bring Lin in the game a bit sooner in the 1st quarter, I would not have any problem coming off the bench..As long as he plays at least 25 minutes.

    Before the game, when I heard Lin was starting, my worry was that Roberts would play point guard and Lin would play mostly as SG.

    Glad Lin made a 3point shot…Let’s hope this will now open the flood gate as far as his 3point shooting.

  • real-dsb

    I was really busy past couple weeks, haven’t kept up with the posts. psalm234 did you ever follow up on the first 10 games prediction? http://www.jlinportal.com/predict-charlote-hornets-first-10-games-win-loss-record/

    I looked back and not only did I get the 5-5 right, but I got every single game W/L prediction right. =) Hopefully my playoffs prediction will be true as well.

    That’s a tough starting schedule, my honest prediction is 5-5.

    My season prediction is 43-39 (.524), make it to playoffs as #7 seed.

    MIA – L
    ATL – L
    ATL – L
    CHI – W
    DAL – W
    SAS – L
    MIN – W
    NYK – W
    @CHI – L
    POR – W

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    What do you mean by “he decided to stay in the corner”?….Does Lin call the plays?…Aren’t either the PG or the coach call the plays?….Lin can not go anywhere he wants when the play is called..He has to follow order and go wherever the play-calling orders him to go…Only a star can break the play and call his own play..Lin is not there yet when he can do that.

    I think tonight’s game was average…I’m mainly looking at jeremy’s Fg%…I think there were a few shot in which he forced..I would had prefer that he not shoot after the first half and concentrate and driving and kick to his teammates…He would had been 3 for 4…

    All the shots Lin took in the second half weren’t good shots..and I believe he was pressing and wanted to score at least 15point so he could force Clifford to keep him in the starting line-up for next game against Sacramento.

    Lin needed to let the game come to him and not force the issue…If he does that, at least his FG% will go higher…right now, it’s at 40.5% which is not too bad…I don’t want him FG% to go lower than 40%, but if he keep forcing shot, I worry he will shoot below 40%.

  • Spot

    OK, gimme next matchday results now 🙂

  • real-dsb

    next game, CHA beats SAC

  • Spot

    Does DMC play? If he plays they lose, in my opinion.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’m not sure this is the right way to go about it…to send this type of tweet to Hornets fan, specially when the team won and players like Kemba and Jefferson played very well and shot well…This is what makes rockets and Lakers fan irritated with us…Just chill out and lay low..this game was not a good game for lin and didn’t do too well with the shot he got.

    Lin shot 3 for 8, so it’s difficult to make a strong argument in this game he should had gotten more shot.

    The fact is, if Lins starts, he has to compete with a lot of offensive players like Kemba, Al, Batum who are all ahead of him when he comes to scoring options.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There are a few things that I believe about Jeremy Lin.

    First and utmost is Lin hating is real and it is nationwide and organized; specially through the media.
    Throughout Lin’s career, there are only a few people who has given Lin a fair chance to succeed. There are many more who wanted to degrade Jeremy for unknown reasons. Anything about Jeremy would be under attack. Since they couldn’t anything about Lin’s personal life to attack, they attack on Lin’s fans. They even pretended to be Lin fans to trash Lin’s teammates, coaches etc without reasons. They have started this long ago. Lin fans have been abused with stereotypes just like Jeremy did.

    Frankly, I don’t really think Charlotte would be the home for Jeremy but I do think they have treated Jeremy better than other cities at least for the reason that they got Jeremy on their team cheap. Lin has already generated more income for the team than he’s paid. Would Lin be treated fairly. I wouldn’t even hope for it. It’s unrealistic.

    God has been taking good care of Jeremy and helping him all along. Situations has occurred that Jeremy Lin got his chance of succeed despite all the unfairness. I’m all good about Jeremy right now. He’s given a new role and he’s currently trying hard to adjust. Even Batum has had bad games too.

  • Hope

    Will Lin start vs Kings?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Depending on Cliff’s plan. If it’s my guess, probably not.

  • AlexBB

    JLin’s post about him being at peace and playing for God now and forming a cell group with his team mates are 2 very significant news from him. The former means that his primary aim is not about his performance such as statistics. Playing for God means that all his actions are to glorify God and spread His message. So we can expect him to do his best for his team and team mates rather than himself. He is likely to focus on creating and helping his team mates to do well like getting better statistics and be praised. He has to be extremely unselfish and sacrifice himself for a good of the team. The second news re-enforcing the first. Assuming some of the team mates like Lambs and Jeff are part of the new cell group and he is the cell leader, he will sacrifice himself for this cell members. As a fellowship cell group, all members are treated by family and they one should not be above fellow members. The cell leader will do all things to help the cell members to his own detriment even. We should there expect more selfless plays, less shootings from Lin and I presume more defence to cover up for cell members. So we should expect lower stats from him this season.

  • Spot

    When Batum shoots 1-19 no one question his shooting though.

    That’s the difference. And that’s why I don’t believe Clifford rides the hot hand

  • kittyhead

    Cousins didnt play todays game due to the suspension so he should play next game. But Gay strained his shoulder today and is possibly absent.

  • kittyhead

    Now I’m confused why they signed Lin…for defense?lol

  • sws94

    To get to the 28-30 minutes us fans want to see he has to play SG and he’ll be on the floor with Kemba. It’s not considered out of position for him, he’s considered a guard that can play PG or SG. Even off ball, I think the coaches want him to have the same approach, play like Jeremy Lin. Infnot PG he doesn’t bring up the ball and maybe call all the sets, but once getting the ball, he has to still attack and pass like Lin. Defensively things change, he doesn’t have to fight through as many picks as playing PG but he’s often playing bigger players and some are good 3 point shooters.

  • sws94

    I totally, and I mean totally, disagree.

  • sws94

    Batum is higher regarded than Lin for all of these. But Lin has more grit and winning quality in the clutch and the Hornets will find that out.

    Sounds like he talks more to MJ than Cho about guys on the court.

  • sws94

    He left it in the 1st half. The question is why in the second half did he not move off the ball more? What are the factors? Are they the sets, the plays called? Clifford didn’t like the 3Q play and liked the 1Q so it wasn’t like Cliff was saying to the team, freeze out Lin.

  • sws94

    Compare his 1Q and 3Q. If Kemba called the plays and if Lin cut to the basket and received the ball, why didn’t that happen in the 3Q? This has nothing to do with a star or not. He’s a bb player that’s pretty established and can make things happen if he’s active.

    I watch his activity and if he is commanding integration into the game. Can’t see everything on TV but it sure seemed Lin was watching the offense more in the 2nd half in general than making sure he’s involved in it if he saw and opening in the 3Q and much of the 2nd half.

    How much of this is Lin and how much other factors? I’m not sure. But I’m not going to start thinking it is only the team mates and Lin didn’t contribute to it with his own activity or lack of it.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It’s not in the game plan.

  • Brent Yen

    Well…..there is nothing called out of position for lin…..lol….he can play PF if he likes……..LOL…..I love that lin got to start and to play 29 mins……CLT is not the ideal situation for Lin, but it is a better one so far….It does not matter if he is at 1 or 2. It is just about how much time he gets to touch the ball or not…good game…..a good win….today

  • CJSHYY

    True it depends on Cliff’s plan. But I really don’t think this is going to work if they only ask Lin to be a CnS SG only. When Lin w 2nd unit, Cliff should just let Lin be PG instead.

  • sws94

    Lin and Batum aren’t directly comparable. And if Batum had a 1-19 people would take note. Patrick Ewing said Batum had a poor game in NY and bounced back at home against Brooklyn. If Batum started stringing together a bunch of poor games people would say what is wrong with him.

  • spiderman

    “Can yall chill”

    Lol

  • sws94

    People, be careful what you ask for. You wanted more minutes, you got them in the last 3 games. Now you don’t like his involvement when he gets the minutes. You wanted him in the starting lineup, you got it. Now you don’t like how he was used. He gets to play point in the 2nd unit, so that’s what you wanted to see. But he didn’t last game where 2 players were injured. But isn’t that the context?

    For all of those pining for Lin to be on some other team conditions and preferences in the NBA don’t go away because someone goes to another team. One could hope to minimize them. Is that what is not present in Charlotte? Everywhere Lin goes there will be ball dominant players that may not love passing to their team mates. But is that not minimized in Charlotte? There are no ideals for Lin, that’s happened already. Briefly. And D’Antoni? Nope. In NY he flew high just to be mutinied by Melo a few weeks later and didn’t make it to the end of the season. And what happened to Nash? Went to LA to play with D’Antoni. How did that work out for either of them? What happened to Nash and D’Antoni in LA?

    I think there are conditions in Charlotte that favor Lin to have a good season. We are panicking because we want this breakout season. That probably won’t happen in terms of stats. Lin doesn’t even have the same I’m going to get to the rim no matter what mentality he had in NY and Houston. I don’t see it. I think his game is evolving and changing and he looks to add his game into a system to help a team win. That means playing D and getting rebounds and not as much scoring and assists as we saw previously. Does he have the same opportunity? No. But I don’t even think he has the same approach. Not fully anyway. Will Lin have big games with Charlotte? I think so. I think he’ll have a huge stretch. But really, he’s still feeling it out. He’s still getting used to guys in the first unit. He’s expanding in the second unit. And that’s what it is for now.

  • Brent Yen

    29 mins made me very happy…lol….anything beyond that is bonus..

  • spiderman

    some cool action here (most have probably seen)
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=508i65D6BOc

  • Yascar

    Exactly. And to be honest, if being in such idealized conditions (great coach,system catering to him, unselfish teammates, 30+ minutes etc) is the only way Jeremy succeeds, then he maybe isn’t as good a player as we think he is. Worse, he’ll be no better as a person than all those ball hogging superstars that we all purport to abhor.

    I will admit to wishing his stats were better but I am also fascinated by the way he’s coping with what life is handing him in general. Jeremy himself no longer defines success in the way that we still do. I think we would do well to follow his example.

  • KHuang

    I’m perfectly happy except for one minor thing out of Lin or even Clifford’s control:

    Going back and forth between being a low usage starting SG and a high usage PG is slightly jarring for Lin.

    I’m sure even Clifford would like to get Lin into a single role and stick with it.

    But so far, the team needs Lin to go back and forth for now.

  • rookie75094

    It is awsome to see kkklutchfans having an epic meltdown ten times the size of chernobyl…hehe

  • KHuang

    Jason Kidd was All NBA First Team for playing EXACTLY the way Lin is right now but in more minutes and less efficiency.

  • DaVinci633

    All we want is Jlin to be treated like superstar. Starting PG with 100% Usage. Then we’re all happy

  • DaVinci633

    Did you guys see Kemba ran to Lin to help him up when he was fouled hard? I thought it should great team unity with hornets. I don’t see any politics anymore. I just see everyone trying to do what’s best for the team to win

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Tell us more… I saw few min of Rox vs Mem last night… so happy they didn’t pull the w like vs Portland. Hope they keep playing like this for the rest of season. LOL!

  • sws94

    There are a lot of similarities between Stockton and Lin and Nash and LIn. Stockton threw the football passes and often “probed” on offense. Lin gets the rep for over-dribbling but Stockton used to dribble quite a lot. Stockton played in a great system and with Malone, I don’t know how Stockton would have played if he jumped from team to team or was asked to play SG. Stockton was a tough defender, much more so than Nash, and Lin has some of that gritty quality to him. One area Lin is not as good at is 3 point shooting and shooting. Both Stockton and Nash were really good shooters. Stockton wasn’t a fancy ball handler, but somehow he had the toughest defenders on him and took care of the ball well. Nash had TOs but was a good ball handler. Nash had great footwork probably helped by his soccer playing. Lin is the fastest of them in speed and first step and also probably with creativity around the rim.

    Vid of Stockton getting over 20 assists in a game. Notice how much me probed and waited for cutters. That is what Lin tries to do.

  • sws94

    Karma.

  • sws94

    OK, gotcha!

  • sws94

    Fair point.

  • KHuang

    I’m the biggest John Stockton hater on this forum.

    I never thought he was that great a player, plus I considered him dirty and even selfish in a way.

    That said, I think Stockton would have been even better had coach Jerry Sloan ALLOWED Stockton to play freely instead of micromanaging every single play Stockton did.

    The game you put up, I saw it when Stockton was playing in the 80s. Back then it wasn’t Jerry Sloan coaching. It was Frank Layden – and Layden let Stockton attack and play and get guys going.

    Lin actually has more offensive freedom now than John Stockton did under the Jerry Sloan years.

  • KHuang

    Speak for yourself.

    I’m totally happy with Lin’s role NOW.

  • KHuang

    Lin, like other truly great players, will do whatever it takes to win.

  • KHuang

    The Knicks are still writing hate articles about Lin right now.

    They are utterly obsessed with him the way clutchfans is.

  • KHuang

    Kemba Walker is playing GREAT when Lin’s on the court protecting him.

    Now when opponents finally start guarding Walker, that’ll open up touches for Lin.

  • sws94

    Yes, it was Layden coaching here. This team ran. If Lin had guys running like these guys are running, and finishing like these guys are finishing, he’d have double digit assists also. I think maybe Lin should try to get back to pushing up the court faster again, get Lamb and his unit to run with him.

    Look at how much Stockton helped on Kareem yet managed to get back to the 3 point shooter. That’s what Lin tries to do but I think Stockton did it when Kareem wasn’t as far in the paint as when Lin helps. That’s how he was able to get away with it.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Thanks for your post, sws94.

    I was surprised and pleased to read in Jeremy’s latest prayer request that he had found “supernatural peace and rest, regardless of my circumstances” and that he’s “enjoyed the first couple months of this season more than any other season … .” It just underscored how little I understood his circumstances and state of mind.

    My hope is that he can use his experiences in Charlotte to enrich and deepen his faith. That seems to mean most to him.

  • KHuang

    Gotta rebound to run.

    Utah under Layden could rebound, Charlotte with its soft bigs other than Kaminsky and Hansbrough CANNOT.

  • sws94

    And even the great Stockton made a mistake by not getting the ball to a shooter before time expired on the clock at the end of the game.

    And the great Magic Johnson had the ball stolen on a drive down the stretch of the game. Great players make errors too.

    The more I look at Stockton and Nash, the more I think Lin fans are not crazy to say there are comparisons. People may think Lin fans overvalue his talents but saying someone has similarities and qualities of another player doesn’t mean they had the opportunity or the circumstances to excel therefore haven’t accomplished what the great player has. When Lin had that opportunity, he was just as good as Stockton or Nash. We just don’t know if he had continued with the opportunity could he sustain it for years like they did.

  • sws94

    The guards get more rebounds than the bigs. That’s another thing slowing Lin down.

  • KHuang

    I PREDICTED that Lin would do this.

    I knew that he was feeling anxiety over his decreasing minutes.

    Frankly, Clifford decreased Lin’s minutes because Lin was PRODUCING SO MUCH in low minutes that Clifford didn’t feel Lin had to play that much. But Clifford snapped out of that real quick.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Nobody here questioned Cliff to play Lin more minutes only, we questioned about his role also.

  • KHuang

    Really, the ONLY difference between Lin’s role and Stockton/Nash’s role is that Stockton and Nash had MAX CONTRACT SUPERSTAR BIG MEN to feed and play off of.

    When Lin had Howard in Houston and Chandler in NY – neither of whom could hold a candle to Nash’s Stoudemire or Stockton’s Malone – Lin was even more potent than Stockton or Nash.

    Lin’s “problem” is that he’s always playing on bad teams.

  • KHuang

    If both Kaminsky and especially Hansbrough were out there with Lin, it would be LAKERS SHOWTIME every game.

    By the way, Kaminsky has finally come alive.

    That’s because Kaminsky is now bullying his way into the paint and throwing his size around.

    And Hansbrough? He just needs about 10 minutes a game to do MAXIMAL DAMAGE.

  • sws94

    Yeah, even when Lin had Stoudemire, it wasn’t the same Amari that played in Phoenix. His back limited his playing. Malone was a great player. Stockton gets a lot of picks in those highlights. And when Stockton was trapped and double teamed, he was slowed down just like Lin is. He was steady, but slowed down.

  • sws94

    Kaminsky will play more. I don’t know about Tyler, just seems like Clifford isn’t into playing him.

  • KHuang

    Keep in mind that when Stockton played, the illegal defense rule prevented teams from REALLY guarding Stockton the way Lin is routinely guarded now.

    Stockton – and any 80s guard including Michael Jordan – would have STRUGGLED against today’s crushing zone defenses that send 3 guys at Lin.

    It now takes an entire team effort to score in today’s NBA, unlike Stockton’s era.

  • Rick Johnson

    This guy got issues. If he is able to even have a full career in the NBA not sure where he goes after:

    J.R. Smith Accused of Choking Teenager Who Made Fun of Him for Getting Traded to Cavaliers Outside NYC Pizza Shop

    https://twitter.com/Complex_Sports/status/667808489268318209

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Stockton and Nash were both the team super star point guards with 100% control of offense without worrying to guard a bigger shooting guard. Lin? God knows where or what he plays now and next.

  • sws94

    They had hand checking then but the illegal defense benefitted Jordan a lot.

  • KHuang

    I think Tyler WILL play more and that Clifford does believe in him.

    I think that if the starters are able to feel good by having Lin protect them, it’ll offset the BEATINGS Hansbrough is inflicting on the starters just enough for Hansbrough to be played without the starters getting fearful jealous.

  • sws94

    Bad guy. I never liked him. Some guys have emotional and substance issues like Metta World Peace. But I don’t think Metta is a bad guy deep down. I just think JR is not a good guy.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    That kid deserved it if true.

  • joyce ward

    Gotta tell you it’s much fun watching the rockets and clutchfanforum implode. Now they have poll to get rid of Morey at 70%.LOL

  • sws94

    NBA player has to exercise self-control. Kid may have been a jerk but still.

  • KHuang

    Pfft, Lin gets hand checked NOW.

    No player in the 80s was hit as hard or handchecked as illegally as Lin is right now.

    Lin would not only have easily survived the 80s handchecking, he’d be even more unstoppable than he already is because opponents cannot zone him off the ball like they are doing now.

  • Acbc

    More and more Morey is becoming maroon on an island and the tide of opinions against him is closing in on the maroon. Less and less is Les Alexander willing to put up with Morey and his layers of lies. Les had to personally apologies to Jeremy for the “Bannergate” affair when it was obvious that Jeremy was victimized by Morey’s total disregard for a valuable asset to Les Alexander’s Asian interests.

    The story goes that Morey released Lin on Christmas Day and picked up by Knicks. What happens is a script that even Hollywood couldn’t write. Linsanity made Les really upset at Morey for failing so badly with his vaulted analytics. Les then told Morey that he wanted Lin back as a rocket at whatever the cost. Only now does Les realize that Morey betrayed his wish for Linsanity to repeat in Houston. Morey systematically tore down Lin from saviour to useless backup. Les envisioned Lin s the natural replacement for Yoa Ming.

    Enter Lawson who came into town as a “star” PG to help Harden advance to the finals of the playoffs. Instead we have a worst start to the season and Lawson failing miserably next to Harden. The house of cards with Harden as ace is tumbling down and Les Alexander realizes that Morey was the instrument to destroy the reputation of the player he himself wanted to promote for his team and as a helpful asset to his Asian interests. With Lawson, les can see that Morey defied his wish for Linsanity and destroyed a lot of good will to his Houston Rockets in the Asian market.

    The truth is hitting home like a tidal wave and Morey has no place left to hide. Lawson has shown the league and media that it wasn’t Lin who was a failure, it was Morey who made him a backup, just as Lawson is now being made into a pricy useless ball boy for Harden.

  • sws94

    It was inevitable. That place is terrible.

  • Whitman Lam

    I think back in those days, the 3 point line was closer to the basket, so it was easier to help in the paint.

  • 22cents

    Ho Ho. As a fan, we “wish” for everything.

    However, we (at least me) realized that this is just fantasy. Coach has his on court decision to make. What he cares is to win. Not a player’s ego or minute. Well, somewhat of that.

    At this point, Clifford did not treat Lin badly like MC or BS did. That is a good sign.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    NBA player is not a preacher. If you provoke a dog don’t blame it’s gonna bite you.

  • KHuang

    Actually, Lin HAS IT EASY when he’s guarding today’s shooting guards.

    It’s the high usage little ballhog point guards that run Lin through more bruising picks that cause Lin more trouble than slower shooting guards that Lin routinely shuts down.

  • sws94

    I didn’t say it was called 🙂 Technically, it isn’t allowed.

  • 22cents

    Ha Ha. I wish Lin play alone (i.e, one against five) and score 120 alone by himself and win the game.

    Ha Ha. Just kidding.

  • sws94

    I know briefly it was the same as the corner all around but they changed it back since too many guys were hitting 3 pointers. I don’t think it was any longer than 2 or 3 seasons though. I have to check.

  • KHuang

    I’m a JR Smith fan, but he does these knucklehead things off the court especially in NY.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Jumping to block a jump shooter will a lot of energy out of your legs compare to just running, especially you re inches shorter.

  • sws94

    In 1994-1997 it was changed to 22 feet all around. But changed back to 23’9″ at the arcs after that. So this is before the brief change.

  • KHuang

    Les Alexander learned a painful lesson about Lin.

    Les should have stuck with his instincts about Lin.

  • KHuang

    Let’s break out the MARSHMALLOWS.

  • sws94

    As long as he doesn’t give them space he mostly shuts them down. But some of them get screens too or Lin loses them and doesn’t recover quickly to contest their shots. A few tall SGs and PGs can shoot over Lin.

  • KHuang

    It’s actually not Lin’s call.

    Charlotte plays a helping defense where Lin’s newer teammates aren’t yet used to helping!

  • sws94

    And a thinking, professional, physically strong basketball player is not a dog. An adult human has to exercise restraints and knows that he’ll be taunted in the world.

    If you think JR is a good guy I disagree with you. He’s always been a jerk in my opinion.

  • joyce ward

    LOL

  • sws94

    Hope so. Tired of seeing Hawes.

  • DaVinci633

    I’m just being sarcastic. Lin is nowhere close. He is right where he needs to be. He knows where God puts him.

  • joyce ward

    Harden doesn’t want to be in Houston anymore. He wants to be in LA with Khloe.

  • Acbc

    Burn baby burn.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    You’re putting a bit too much blame on Lin for not getting more shots…It is the coach or the PG job to call play for Lin so he can get on the ball and be involved more.

    Sure, Lin could had cut to the basket and do a few stuff like that, but maybe these stuff weren’t available…Fact is, they have to call some plays for him so he can be more involved.

    Lin has to compete with at least 3 players in the starting unit who are ahead of him as offensive options…so he’s not going to get too many play called for him and Lin will have to settle for garbage shots by cutting to the basket and hope they pass it to him..or maybe Lin should crash the board to get some offensive rebound and put backs.

  • KHuang

    It wasn’t the 3 pt line that caused paint scoring to be more dominant.

    It was the hated illegal defense rule that prevented double and triple teams off the ball like can be done today.

    Post players back then had much higher true shooting than today because they simply faced less defenders down low.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    On the Highlight video, at 1:41, I wished Lin could learn how to use his left hand on this particular lay-up on the left side of the basket…..By coming back with his right hand to make a lay-up, it makes it a bit easier for the defender to block his shot since he’s on the right side of Lin’s body…..By laying it with his left, his body shields any block shots attempt or at least make it harder.

    A quicker or taller defender would had probably blocked this layup…I’ve seen Lin missed some of these layup because he refuses to use his left hand.

  • sws94

    I disagree. Here his right hand is further away than his left as his back is to the basket. This is his patented shot actually and very effective. He’s used his left plenty when he needs to. He worked on that a few off-seasons ago.

  • KHuang

    Lin at CENTER.

    That’s essentially where Lin’s playing when he dives into the paint and catches the ball down low.

  • heart

    Can someone tell/show me how to post a picture or image to the thread? Thanks.

  • Rzo Vlade

    its that a woman intuition…..you know women can tell if the guy is crazy on a girl….and if thats true if rockets miss the play offs then…….

    harden make a trade request in off season 3 possible LA teams kings, lakers, clips

    trade scenario

    clips—-harden + players for de andre jordan+redick

    kings—–harden+fillers for cousins+fillers

    lakers—–harden for jclarkson, russell and 2016 1st pick

    whay do you think…..and btw morey get canned

  • KHuang

    I know I know.

    I agree.

    Lin plays against tougher officiating and opponents than any 80s player ever did.

    Michael Jordan never was guarded as hard as Lin. EVER.

    If Lin were officiated the same as an average NBA player, let alone a superstar, he’d be scoring 20 ppg a game in 20 mpg mostly off free throws!

  • Rzo Vlade

    harden make a trade request in off season 3 possible LA teams kings, lakers, clips and morey get fired

    trade scenario

    clips—-harden + players for de andre jordan+redick

    kings—–harden+fillers for cousins+fillers

    lakers—–harden for clarkson, russell and 2016 1st pick

  • sws94

    That doesn’t explain the difference between Lin in the 1Q and him in the 3Q. Coach already said he approved of the ball movement in the 1Q. It makes no sense for coach to have Lin in and not have the same type of involvement he had in the 3Q as he did in the 1Q. And Ewing said starting the 3Q that they should stick with what they did in the first half. They really didn’t, Lin included. Maybe some of it is on the team and some oneLin. But I don’t think it is on the coaches.

  • sws94

    Jordan got the friendly whistle for sure. Can’t say that for Lin. He rarely gets it and often he gets mauled and doesn’t get the fouls called.

  • KHuang

    The ultimate solution:

    Trade James Harden for Jeremy Lin, Tyler Hansbrough, Frank Kaminsky, and Jeremy Lamb.

    The combined salaries of those four studs wouldn’t even add up to Harden’s single salary.

  • Rzo Vlade

    joyce said is to be with khloe….so stop it he doesnt want to go to charlote he wants LA

  • KHuang

    I want to see Lin vs Harden at SG.

    We’ve watched two seasons of Lin BEATING UP Harden in practices and scrimmages.

    I want to see those two face off.

  • sws94

    Drag it from your folder or wherever it is into the text box. It’s that easy.

  • KHuang

    I don’t need to “stop” anything on a HYPOTHETICAL post.

    I say trade Bev outta there too.

    Speaking of Bev, I’m pretty sure you can trade Lin and Kaminsky and Hansbrough for Bev with the salaries matching!

  • Acbc

    IMO, we should all be ecstatic with all that has transpire so far this season. Lol, Lin fights against greed but Lin fans are way too greedy.

    If we polled everyone last year about all that’s happened so far this year, people would be saying no way, not going to happen.

    MJ says Lin is most important signing this year for Hornets..
    Lin plays great in preseason and continues to post good numbers.
    Lin gets more PT.
    Lin gets to start.
    Coach continues to sing praise for Lin.
    Coach puts Lin in all the time to close out games.
    Coach puts Lin out for defensive purposes and sings praises about it.
    NBA fawning over Lin
    Houston implodes
    Kobe sucks
    BS on the chopping board
    Mchale gets fired
    Harden sucks
    Morey is put on notice for team failure by owner
    Truth about Lin marginalization finally is accepted as fact.

    Lin fans everywhere should be dancing in the streets. “Free at last , free at last”.

  • Rzo Vlade

    LA is where khloe is so your hypho is way off

  • Rzo Vlade

    ctrl+alt+del

  • KHuang

    ALL hypotheses are WAY OFF.

    Yours are not better than mine or anyone else’s.

  • David Kim

    I want to see harden team up with melo. It will be fun to watch… LOL
    They will fight for the ball and there will be no defense..

  • Rzo Vlade

    last time I check khloe is in LA not NY

  • David Kim

    Just joking…

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is it a fact that Les went to apologize to Lin…That would be a class act considering how McHale and Morey treated Lin.

    Also, last season, they were report that Houston wanted to re-sign Lin..I of course, was against it, but was this Les telling them to re-sign Lin…and also, did they ever call Lin’s agent to ask whether he was interested in coming back as back-up to beverly?

  • sws94

    No PG they have brought in since Lin has had his impact and production. As much as the clutchfan jerks don’t want to admit it, they know it’s true.

  • Jim

    for real?
    if he really requested a trade, i’d lose all the respect I had for this man

  • Rzo Vlade

    if they fail this year…….he wants to be with khloe so LA teams will be the target

  • spiderman

    Les deserves exactly what he has now.
    In the words of Forrest Gump “Stupid is as stupid does”

  • Jim

    Hope hes not that stupid
    the kardashians destroy their men
    they are cancers to whoever comes close to them
    Harden can do better than this

  • KHuang

    Jeremy Lin, Charlotte Hornets BAND AID player.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Was Lin beating Harden in training session?

  • Rzo Vlade

    Love is blind……and….. THAT AZZZZ!!!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Dang those Kardashian’s must use some type of dark magic. Really don’t know what he see’s in Khloe.

  • Rzo Vlade

    THAT AZZZZ …..the magic use

  • Rick Johnson

    Or you can click the picture icon in the lower left corner of a text entry box (desktop using browser). If you hover your cursor over it it says “Upload Images” then select the location of the picture.

  • Jim

    They are a bunch of donkeys
    they have no brains
    w/o morey they’d still be a lottery team

  • Rick Johnson

    Yes, he would have had Lin, Lamb, Parsons and Kevin Martin.

  • Jim

    The kid probably deserved it

  • Jim

    exactly everyone knows hes a jerk, then why provoke him
    we all know hes got issues
    and to be fair JR smith isnt a “thinking’ and professional bball player LOL

  • Rick Johnson

    They are trashing and hating on the whole team. Not very dedicated fans.

  • Jim

    We’ve seen it?

  • Jim

    ew no K-Mart

  • heart

    thanks.

  • heart

    thanks

  • heart

    thank you.

  • Rzo Vlade

    LOL

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    No, somebody played with fantasy trade machine.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He was mostly a player played 3 point contested shot defense.

  • Right, Lin uses this move a ton, and with success. This is one of my favorite instances of him doing it, passing by Matt Barnes and using his reverse right-hand layup to block of fPaul Gasol.

    Love the two angles. It’s from Linsanity.

  • 22cents

    I am not. JR is an animal on and off the court. At the crunch time, he can help you and fail you with equal probability. His off court problems may eventually catch up with him.

  • sws94

    Sir Mix A Lot can help you with that.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The big question is whether Clifford stays with Lin in the starting lineup against Sacramento on Monday..Wht do you guys think Cliff will do?…Did Lin do enough to keep his spot in the first unit?

    I also heard that Clifford had stated he consider PJ Hairston his best wing defender and it was being suggested that he would be back on Monday, which means Lin would be back on the bench.

    The negative is that Lin did not have a great game which was needed to force Clifford not to remove him out of the starting 5.

    On the other hand, the team started very well with Lin starting and Lin, I believe, scored 75 points in the first quarter before being taken out at about the 5th minute mark in the first quarter.

    Unfortunately, Lin scoring rate did not continue past the first quarter…I had hoped Lin would have returned to start the second quarter as the main point guard, but Cliff had Roberts manning the point…So Lin played the entire game off the ball…Maybe if Lin had played some PG, his natural position, we would had seen better statistics…Maybe.

  • sws94

    Lin started because Cody and PJ were out. The results were fine. It was against Phili so Roberts played. The 2nd unit will be much more important against the Kings and Lin probably will play his regular role in that unit whether he starts or not. I think he probably won’t start on Monday. But he may.

  • sws94

    KMart did not like Lin. no KMart.

  • Chopz

    No need to be careful what we ask for, i don’t fear the unknown, you don’ know things til u try. We asked for minutes, we got them, i’m happy. The rest will work itself out.

  • sws94

    I have no problem with exploring the unknown, giving it a try.

  • DX

    Doesn’t matter start or not. What I focus on only PT and handling the ball.

  • LinJa

    Last night starter line up was the best for Hornets. Cliff used them alot to close games. But last night was an easy win, Jlin didn’t get to play much.

  • Sophie Paris

    Lol that makes Harden an easy target

  • GoodDayLA

    nice imagination you have. highly doubt this is the cse but im sure you feel better writing it

  • GoodDayLA

    lin looks like crap to les. otherwise lin would not have benn traded with a 1st rd pick like garbage

  • Rick Johnson

    Seems like with this team he’s best able to show his skill / value is as PG on the 2nd team & close out games with the starters. I wish they would put Hansbrough in with bench though perhaps to replace either Hawes or Zeller. He looked pretty good in the 2 minutes he was given last game. Rolled to the rim and even hit a 3 pointer. Hornets need some help with rebounding too.

    Hansbrough:

    http://on.nba.com/1I2ReKM

  • CJSHYY

    I agree if Lin could play PG w 2nd unit that sure would be much better…

  • real-dsb

    dream team:
    SF Melo
    SG Kobe
    PG Harden

  • Acbc

    The problem would be that they’ll be plague, locusts and famine to follow. Lol

  • real-dsb

    If you’re using an image from the web, you can just paste the URL directly in the textbox. That saves the extra step of first saving it to your computer.

  • real-dsb

    But Lin’s doing a reverse layup, so his body is still shielding the defender away from the ball. When he reverses his body, now the defender is on his left side.

    This is probably Lin’s signature move and it has been very effective. I think it’s because the defender is typically not expecting it.

  • heart

    thank you

  • Michael

    Just a thought, did Lin have to over help when he was playing with Tyson Chandler? Lin knows where his man is, and he does his homework so he knows who can shoot and who cannot. If his man is open, it you cannot say Lin is over helping if he is trying to get the ball out of the opponent who is abusing his teammates in the post. That’s called being a good teammate. The bigger issue may be why the opponents bigs can get so deep in the paint.

  • grover chang

    We want Linsanity again. This will not happen. Therefore all these circular discussions root cause is frustration that Linsanity is not coming back.

    I think from Lin prayer request is he knows something like Linsanity is not coming back.

    He was hired as a role player. He is used as a role player. His stats are role player like and this is the season unless walker gets injured.

  • occupatio

    funny thing about CF meltdown is they just saying what lin fans been saying for years, and only finally come around to it. esp that harden cant lead a team anywhere.

  • LAJane

    I NEVER get tired of watching these clips 🙂

  • grover chang

    GO ROCKETS GO ROCKETS GO ROCKETS!

    I know not a popular thing to say here but got tickets for tonight’s game and rockets need to beat the Knicks. Rockets need to beat eastern conference teams. The east is tight and east teams losing only helps the Hornets.

  • real-dsb

    Overall, Lin fans have actually been quite good at predicting things well before the mainstream picks up on it. It’s easy to discount due to rabid fans, but many of them came true.

    I know there’s many more, but the things I could think off the top of my head that Lin fan forums already concluded before mainstream:

    Warriors days:
    – Lin is good enough to play in NBA rotation, not D-League. (Lin became NBA starter)
    – Keith Smart was a terrible coach (Smart fired after the season)
    – Monta Ellis was not helping the team (Ellis traded away)

    Rockets days:
    – Harden is a terrible defender (then the Harden Defensive Juggernaut video went viral and then mainstream realized)
    – Harden will not lead them to championship (Rockets losing despite Harden’s pts)
    – Beverly is overrated (Beverly benched)
    – McHale was a terrible coach (McHale fired)

    General:
    – Lin is a good defender. (mainstream still has not realized this)

    Can you guys think of other things that Lin fans had already realized before mainstream?

  • Rick Johnson

    True, but I like watching CF implode with every Rockets loss.

  • real-dsb

    I’m going to disagree and root for Knicks. I don’t care about the East race yet. It’ll sort itself out later. First things first. =)

  • Rick Johnson

    Byron Scott is obsolete coach that doesn’t know what he’s doing.
    Kobe’s poor shooting efficiency & lack of ball movement causing them to lose games and minimizes Lin’s strengths
    Morey’s lack of understanding of team culture, mentality and only focusing on stats detriment to team

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin needs to have a break out season to complete the CF meltdown.

  • LinJa

    I’m going to lakers vs rockets with my office people lol. I’m soooo excited….

  • real-dsb

    Yes, good ones. Lin fans realized those things way before mainstream.

    Byron Scott – I don’t think mainstream has realized how bad Byron is because they had so many injuries last year. I think that Byron doesn’t get fired this year because Lakers might as well tank this year also.

    Kobe – Mainstream finally realized that now.

    Morey – Lin fans identified long ago that Morey’s analytics don’t take into account team culture, chemistry, etc. Mainstream starting to realize that now.

  • Rick Johnson

    Tyson Chandler was a top defender with high BB IQ especially on defense. He’s usually overseeing and coordinating defense and putting guys in the right position. I don’t think JLin had to help him much. Also Jeffries and Shumpert were good defenders, two way players.

  • Guest

    He did, 2012

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    One Basketball will not be enough for such a team…wow..Melo, Kobe and Harden on the same team!…These 3 would be fighting each other for the ball.

  • Rick Johnson

    I hope Les is there to watch the Knicks beat down the Rockets and totally embarrass them on their home court and hear reports of Les slamming the phone down on Morey again. Rare time I’m actually rooting for the Knicks.

  • real-dsb

    That’s a good question. I don’t remember Lin getting burned overhelping while with the Knicks.

    But in general, Lin’s defensive style does prefer to help. I wish he wouldn’t though.

    It’s like at work, if you have a coworker that’s slacking off, and you help him with his work. Then your work falls behind and you get blamed.

    Lin may be helping the team in that particular moment by his help defense, but in the long term, I don’t think it’s beneficial.

  • real-dsb

    3 balls then! =)

  • your son’s voltaire

    wow. not exciting at all. i hope you enjoy it some how!

  • real-dsb

    Nice! who are you rooting for?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    They are video on youtube which claims the Kardashian family are indeed into sorcery and they use black magic to bring them fame, money and to make men that they want to fall in love with them.

  • your son’s voltaire

    the funny thing is how they’re always saying Lin fans know nothing but in fact we see things way before they can even fathom the idea. or they could just be hating, hoping, and now denying the facts

  • your son’s voltaire

    no, because Shumpert, Fields, and Blackmon were good perimeter defenders

  • KHuang

    Some more badly debunked race based haterade:

    “Lin can’t go left”.
    “Lin can’t defend”.
    “Lin is turnover prone”.
    “Lin can’t guard small guards”.
    “Lin can’t guard big guards”.
    “Lin is a shoot first player who can’t pass”.
    “Lin is a pass first player who can’t shoot”.
    etc…

  • KHuang

    My old tired favorite:

    Lin keeps playing for coaches that think that the hated illegal defense rule was never abolished.

  • KHuang

    Nah, let the Knicks beat the weak Rockets.

    Let people see that simply ejecting McHale is NOT ENOUGH.

  • Rick Johnson

    Chris Baldwin‏@ChrisYBaldwin

    Leave Kevin McHale’s Wife Alone: Jeremy Lin Sins Aside, Twitter Rant Against Daryl Morey Justified — and Human http://bit.ly/1I3lWTY

    https://twitter.com/ChrisYBaldwin/status/668153188965453824

  • Rick Johnson

    New York media will have a field day if the Knicks beat the Rockets. Knicks haven’t beaten the Rockets since 2009 and typically embarrassed by them when JLin was on the Rockets. Rockets downfall will get more widespread media attention by the NY media machine.

  • KHuang

    I saw what Mrs McHale wrote.

    She also was RIGHT.

  • KHuang

    There’s also a meltdown on the other Lin site as the known hate trolls are still trying to stir up trouble there too.

  • KHuang

    When Lin “overhelps”, that’s actually Lin RUNNING THE COACH’S ORDERS while his teammates FAIL to cover Lin’s man when Lin helps.

  • Rick Johnson

    And firing McHale won’t change a thing. Morey enabling Harden’s ego is the problem and those things are still there. McHale also enabled Harden and the team was angry at him for that but I don’t see Morey nor Bickerstaff reining in Harden.

  • KHuang

    Frankly, I was hoping to see the Rockets GO DOWN with a full season with McHale and Morey together.

    But I’ll settle on Morey overseeing the sinking ship since McHale has already been knocked out by COACH KILLAH.

    3 years ago, I wrote that no coach who’s abused Lin has ever survived Lin.

  • KHuang

    Here’s the one that I did that applies to the Hornets:

    Tyler Hansbrough CAN PLAY (Hansbrough has utterly dominated in what few minutes he has received.

  • LinJa

    LOL Probably the Rockets, home team. I hate the lakers more because of BS and KB.

  • KHuang

    I predict that any game now, Lin will suddenly start hitting his jump shots.

    Lin’s not been shooting badly overall, but his jump shot is off. All the coaching game plan changes are affecting Lin negatively.

    Once Lin starts hitting his jump shots, it’s OVER.

  • LinJa

    Lin has Lintellingent fans =)

  • your son’s voltaire

    i predict you’re right

  • LinJa

    Thanks! Just having fun with the coworkers.

  • BobbyH

    I missed that part. Could you elaborate?

  • your son’s voltaire

    i kinda feel sorry for mchale. he doesn’t have the skills to be a better coach elsewhere. whereas, when he screwed Lin over, Lin still has his skills

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Hi-5 Khuang, I’m with you.

  • 22cents

    My interpretation is that all of the coaches abused Lin is an inadequate coach in the modern NBA games. Lin is a master of the modern NBA games and is doing something these abusive coaches do not fully understand. When Lin is gone, these abusive coaches are going to be in trouble and thus the firing.

    Ha ha

  • KHuang

    It’s not Clifford, it’s not Walker, it’s not anybody BUT LIN.

    Just as I predicted that Frank Kaminsky would suddnely stop bricking every shot, Lin will too.

    Right now, Lin’s adjusting to his role as the STRETCH 4 on this Charlotte team.

    Lin’s actually playing the same exact role of offense that Draymond Green is on the Warriors. Like Green, Lin’s the player that cuts around near the hoop to catch inside passes for layups while also stepping to the perimeter for 3s!

    The sole reason Lin has to play as an inside power forward is because Zeller and Hawes and Williams are TOTAL FAILS in playing hard physical inside basketball on offense. But as Kaminsky gains momentum and continues to aggressively battle inside, that’ll lessen pressure on Lin on the perimeter.

    Lin will adjust to being the Draymond Green of the East.

  • 22cents

    Why should I root for a team abuse Lin? Have not paid any attention to them for a long while.

  • your son’s voltaire

    i’m not sure what clifford is doing with Lin. it’s like he’s making Lin do everything that a point guard shouldn’t be doing. even though i think Lin will succeed in the end, i don’t think it’s right. i kinda feel that clifford is just as bad as mchale or even worst

  • KHuang

    Totally agree.

    All those hater coaches have one thing in common: they don’t acknowledge that zone defense is played in today’s NBA.

    Lin as a very modern player recognizes this and will sacrifice himself to zone opponents as a one man defense for his hater coaches. But all those hater coaches think Lin’s “losing his man” when Lin’s actually guarding 3 players all at once.

    On offense, the zone traps engulf Lin but Lin hasn’t had help. The hater coaches think Lin’s “hogging” and should just “make the easy pass” out. But unlike Clifford who has tons of outlets and open driving lanes, these hater coaches have no idea that their outdated 80s iso offenses are being torn to shreds by modern day zones.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Lin is not Green. Lin occasionally got that play but not his specialty. Lin is the point guard. Catching the ball inside design for big man.

  • KHuang

    But on this Charlotte team that has the 3 point line jammed with bricking big men who are too soft to fight inside, Lin’s HAD TO go inside more than he should have to.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He does only when they let their guard down rarely. Lin is heavily guarded now, double, triple you name it.

  • TK Wong

    Yes, yes, yes.

  • KHuang

    There are some Lin fans, even on THIS forum, who constantly trash Lin fans too.

    One of them in particular is REALLY TOXIC.

  • your son’s voltaire

    that could be due to poor spacing on the 1st unit. clifford needs to fix this. i think it’s kemba and big al, but that’s hard to fix

  • KHuang

    Kaminsky is a TOUGH RUGGED player who’s more than ready for NBA physicality.

    He’ll eventually show he’s the toughest big man second to Tyler Hansbrough (nobody in the entire NBA is tougher than Hansbrough).

    Both Tank and Psycho are not only unafraid of inside contact, they can produce even when stiffly defended down low. And that takes pressure off Lin to be an inside player.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Hope he gets some more mins after last garbage time. This is another problem I have with Cliff, I thought he’s the D coach. Such a waste to keep Tyler on the bench. Their bigs are bad in the paint.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin been practicing with Hansbrough. Hope they start to use him. Perhaps Kaminsky and Hansbrough in stead of Zeller and Hawes. Spread the floor and have a presence in the paint, & rebounding.

    https://vine.co/v/e0XKuXEXrtz

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    at least 3 games happened after that practice. No sign of Tyler in the regular rotation. He can PnR with Lin.

  • Acbc

    That alone is worth the price of admission.

  • Rick Johnson

    Here is Hansbrough doing PnR. I could see him and Lin working on that:

    http://on.nba.com/1I2ReKM

  • Acbc

    Douglas was too good a replacement for Lin. Morey had to go to the hinterland to find Beverley to prove that someone who couldn’t even make it in the NBA was better than Lin. We predicted that once Lin was gone, Beverley will have outlived his usefulness.

  • your son’s voltaire

    i just wish clifford would stop trying to find a way to fit out, and just fit in! whatever that means..

  • your son’s voltaire

    is this recent?

  • Rick Johnson

    Wonder how many coaches would come to a Byron Scott Coach’s Clinic?

    https://twitter.com/hornets/status/668170154442948608

  • Rick Johnson

    Dated 10/10

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Oh yeah. What’s going on with Cliff? I wouldn’t mind Lin be the PG even off the bench.

  • Acbc

    I still maintain that Morey hated Lin because he proved that Morey’s analytics was a fraud. He let Lin go for nothing, he drafted Whiteside. Morey got chewed out over the phone by Les and set out to prove to his boss that Lin was a fluke and bench player.

  • he’s done that behind-the-back pass a couple of times (once in preseason and once recently to Al Jefferson)… it’s nice to see it in his arsenal.

  • Acbc

    It’s definately coaches orders. Hornets are a bad rebounding team.

  • your son’s voltaire

    Lin actually does this quite often and not only on this team. he’s usually over-helping even in the post. guys like Hawes and Big Al often miss their own defensive assignments so Lin tend to slide down low until those guys recover

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    He has the top 4, 5 guys and he try to rotate the rest with them see what work best. SMH.

  • Rick Johnson

    You mean Royce White? Ya that guy was a disaster.

  • your son’s voltaire

    i think clifford has a huge dilemma and that’s kemba. can’t make him a 6th man but can’t space the floor or run a fast pace offense with him being on the 1st unit either. big al is also a problem in that aspect but not as much as kemba

  • Acbc

    That actually is more reflective of management style than anything else. A good boss who understand team performance would single out the weak link and call him out. Clifford did that with Lamb constantly screaming at him to get into position. He discusses quietly strategy with Lin because he recognizes the help.

    It’s like I said about the team zone defence concept, Clifford wants his perimeter guys to sag in but leave enough spacing that they can still get back to them to contest shots. Lin just got 9 rebounds because the team is weak inside. They can really use psycho T inside for toughness and rebounding. What we tend to selectively see are the “mistakes” but what we don’t see is that while Lin may allow the 3 to go in occasionally, the effective net positive he creates on defence is less obvious.

    One of the huge payoffs of Lin helping was the last minute help he gave to Beverley to save the game against Portland late in the game. On an inbound play, Beverly lost Lilliard instantly and was heading to the basket for an easy score. Lin left is own man and ran to the spot Lilliard was heading to received the pass and knocked it away for a steal. We’ve been brainwash to see Lin’s faults but not his good plays. The numbers show that we are right.

  • LinMad

    is this recent footage?

  • rookie75094

    Newsflash: China has reported they discovered a meltdown hole originated from huston…. one interesting aspect of this melt hOle is that it has the shape of the word “clutchfans”.

  • Chopz

    Kemba the dilemma, i like it.

  • Steppen03

    Grover,
    We don’t need Rox’s help, do we now?? Perfect scenario: Rox get abused by WC teams AND by EC teams and they miss the playoff for Three seasons to come. I have NO sympathy for McHale & Morey tho I kinda like Les Alex (for signing of Lin’s contract). Hornets don’t need any help. If they are ready – They’re Ready – To make some noise. Not just sneaking into the playoff but be a Top 4 EC team and that’s what I’m optimistic about.

  • Steppen03

    I still have the NY highlights- that game the ROX only won it by a basket. This NYK team Can Blow out the ROX by 15+ points. That’ll made my day, tomorrow, and all the way to next week. Let’s Go, ROX – go on a losing streak for next 14 games. (Back of my mind, I do hope Lawson secretly despises Harden).

  • Rick Johnson

    Bring us back some game reports. I’d be interested in Hardens interaction with teammates, Howard and the coach especially. Is he aloof or actually interacting?

  • LinJa

    Will do! All the local sports talked about the aloofness in the players meeting only before McHale was fired. It is clearly showing Harden’s selfishness. Clutchfan’s hypocrisy is also exposed. I can’t believe there’s a Lin thread with over 200pages. Those are true Lin-haters. The mods are getting owned and reduced to name calling without any ability to drop facts. They clearly missed Lin’s potential as an NBA player. Clutchfans, Morey and McHale were the type of people that were blind to Lin’s ability before Linsanity and even AFTER Linsanity in Houston and crazier, even with Hornet’s success.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Here’s my crazy, speculative prediction of the day:

    Hansbrough kept cornering Cliff demanding to get some quality playing time.
    Cliff stuck his finger in Hans face and said when you show me you can hit a 3 in an NBA game!

    Now that he’s done that (for only the second time in 20 attempts during his entire NBA career) Hans will play some PnR with JLin and thus provide the final spark necessary to reignite Linsanity.

  • james brown

    some couldn’t feel the contentment that jlin has at the moment. We asked for his playing time and when it do come, some becomes greedy and wants him to shoot more..its a baby step with this team that in the long run will benefit both parties..the Hornets and Jlin.

    let us not forget that KW is the main guy in PG position and Cliff trust him the key. the team will not do harshly just because its Jeremy Lin. He came to this team with lots of things to do to comeback and reclaim what was taken from him by his previous teams. let us not lose our patience and just like joyce said, its still early and more things will comes Jlins way!

  • james brown

    No…oct 10,2015

  • james brown

    done that to kaminski and recently, with Al

  • Spot

    Jeremy is what Spurs miss to win the title.

    A PG who can guard the best playmakers in the league;
    A player who can score points with the second unit;

  • DX

    Should be also lot coaches to learn 1. how to tank? 2. how to cross arms? 3. how to train head of snake? hahaha.
    Beside joke, just learn the opposite thing what BS did.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Kemba is the key. Cliff can’t use the game plan worked so well in preseason & vs Bulls game 1. So right now he tried to put something into the game plan didn’t work well to make it better….

  • DX

    This video was on Oct. 10. Maybe just for pre-reason.

  • Michael

    I bet all those coaches would be running all day long.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so too. That’s why he still tried hard to figure it out the game plan & lineup….

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/668213590567067648

  • Spot

    He doesn’t need to satisfy Al. He got an expiring contract and maybe they could trade him.

    Kemba looks no Harden anyway even if sometimes he got that attitude

  • Spot

    Anyone noted Clifford looks like Coach Durham in One Tree Hill? LOL

  • CJSHYY

    I think maybe no Al, but they don’t necessary have to or even like Lin’s PnR or fast break… They do pretty well w their ISO game.

  • Rick Johnson

    Noah Miller
    ‏@noahrmiller
    @JLin7 thanks for talking my parents today! They said you were a great guy. Good luck with the ref of your season.
    https://twitter.com/noahrmiller/status/668218119018647553

  • FYI
    I see posts went missing after being posted. I think sometimes there’s a problem with Disqus since I couldn’t find them in Spam/Deleted folder. If you have a long post you might want to save it somewhere before posting it.

  • Rick Johnson

    infinity88
    ‏@linfinity88
    Fans ran into @JLin7 at SouthPark Mall today. ?:big_al_hudson & hanjujyfruit
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/668217992291815425

  • Game 13 Poll Results: No winner

    Lin had 9p/2a and the closest one is 14/4 so it’s good that we all have high expectations on JLin’s role.

    Will last year’s champ & runner-ups repeat their feats? New leaders @sbbr, @gojlintx & @jakeyyy are leading with 3 Wins while our reigning champ, @cjshyy, and other members are lurking behind with 2 Wins

    LEADERS
    # of Wins UserName

    3 @sbbr, @gojlintx, @jakeyyy
    2 @cjshyy, @melody, @sog117 , @sbbr0 , @sbbr1

  • CJSHYY

    Hans set good screen for Lin also gets reb well. Don’t know why Cliff never really let him play that much?

  • Michael

    Triangle offense…

  • CJSHYY

    Wow! This boy is even taller than Lin?

  • JoeTeam

    SG is fine if they give him the catch n shoot. They don’t so it’s just an unused position whether it is Lin or not. It isn’t beautiful bball like GSW, so we needn’t blame Lin.

  • CJSHYY
  • your son’s voltaire

    “Good luck with the ref of you season”. haha. so true

  • Rick Johnson

    Guess that’s why his handle is: “big_al_hudson”. Instagram site says he’s 6′ 6″.

    https://instagram.com/big_al_hudson/

  • your son’s voltaire

    i keep reading that clifford is a possible replacement for mchale. that would be great. he would have his star iso player. no need to force him to run a fast pace offense like how the Hornets FO are doing. and we can get MDA here! haha

  • CJSHYY

    I really don’t think so bc just check their record for their own team. Mc got the team to WCF… (even I really don’t think Rox is that good…but the fact is fact.) Cliff? Only one year to 1st round playoff. W so many coaches out there… I doubt Alex will pick Cliff. Plus Harden will pick his own coach for sure.

  • Spot

    Clifford is Howard’s favourite. Had him in Orlando and LA.

    Rumors could be true. But… Next season?

  • CJSHYY

    D12 maybe will not stay w Rox. Plus he hates MDA….not sure how much he will like Cliff?

  • CJSHYY

    The one w glasses it’s Lin’s private Massager. He flied from Taiwan to NC for Lin.

  • Spot

    Howard already liked Clifford.

    Clifford was defensive coach for Van Gundy’s Magic and defensive coach for MDA’s Lakers.

    Hopefully this could happen this year 😀

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh, good pick up. Hope it helps his shooting.

  • JJ Hui
  • Rick Johnson

    I would guess Lakers would be looking for a coach by next year too (maybe sooner). Perhaps they would be pursuing Clifford too.

  • Spot

    Lakers’ coach will be chosen by Kevin Durant and co.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think maybe his back…? Otherwise Lo would not fly all the way from Taiwan w Lin’s Dad to NC.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    The nicest way to say, you has not delivered what you promised.

  • gum

    someone from the other site inquired how to load the picture from an Iphone to disque. I am curious about it too but as of this date nobody offered any instruction. I am pretty sure there are many tech saavy posters here. Anyone?

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    It’s so simple. Play Lin just like he played last night. But DON’T bring in Roberts to play PG for 13 minutes. Those 13 minutes are precisely the time when Lin can play PG while Kemba sits. And give TH some burn now that he’s shown he can hit 3’s at least as well as old man Kobe.

  • CJSHYY

    Send the tweet to Hornets. Haha!

  • Parent of an 8th Grader

    When you log in and start typing your comment, you’ll see the little picture icon at the bottom left of your comment box. See a screenshot of the box I attached here. The you select “take photo” or “iPhoto library”. Select a photo from the library or take the picture.

  • Parent of an 8th Grader

    I replied to you. See my comment right above.

  • sport

    KD decided to go to Lakers already?

  • gum

    Many thanks. I shall share this information with another poster on the other site. I hope to get a good shot when I attend Hornets game in Verizon Center (at Wash. DC) on December 19th. I bought 2 tickets many months ago and I believe our seats are pretty good ones.

  • jeremy

    this guy loves jeremy lol

  • CJSHYY

    KD will not go to Lakers.

  • gum

    I do not see a screenshot of the box that is attached here.

  • CT

    You have to re- fresh the page to see it.

  • Hope
  • gum

    Thank you very much….

  • CT

    : )
    Thanks to Parent of an 8th Grader.

  • joyce ward

    Charlotte Hornets ‏@hornets 4h4 hours ago
    SUPRISE! These kids now have brand new beds waiting for them thanks 2 @ShopAshley & @beds4kidz! #HoopsandDreams2015

  • KHuang

    It’s the OPPOSITE.

    Clifford LOVES Lin and plays Lin to bolster struggling lineups.

    However, that does result in Lin playing strange roles all the time.

  • KHuang

    CANNOT be fixed.

    Can only be stopgapped by Lin protecting them.

  • KHuang

    But Popovich HATES LIN.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Young girl in the middle in pink t-shirt tells all how nice those beds are.

  • JoeTeam

    All y’alls: Joyce W posted something about how negative this site has gotten, and I just want to say whaaa to those who keep using Lin as their fav whipping boy, indirect as you are being. Pay attention now, here below is what our Lin does to show you got nothing, so go away.

    Notice how Lin could have done his thing on this run, anytime, but he gave to AJ and even before AJ caught it for the shot, Lin was done with the play and off to D. NOW THAT IS CONFIDENCE and leadership. So yeah, please be + or go away me no Mod.

    Everybody else thank you for keeping me on the Lin bus even when I get busy and miss games.

    https://youtu.be/9TJlJhUQGz8?t=2m51s

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    mmmmh interesting! Seem like I should keep my stat going until I get more wins:-)

  • Chopz

    Chris baldwin’s da man! Got mad love for lin.

  • Chopz

    Yeah, i hope they don’t call fouls on him the REF of the season.

  • joyce ward

    Thanks my friend ☺

  • Sophie Paris

    Lol nice catch

  • CJSHYY
  • JJ Hui

    Off topic here.
    It is funny, i just tuned in to watch Rocket n Knicks 4th quarter, i saw JH throwing his both hands down like a tandrum or something during time out walking towards the bench! Lol!

  • joyce ward

    Ok, of topic, but this kind funny

  • Rzo Vlade

    if they fail this year doc said they might break up who do you think is gone by may……..crawford is sure shot gone but the big three who will go? dj,griffin or cp3

  • joyce ward

    Griffin might go.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK is going to beat Rox. Ya!

  • joyce ward

    nsideHoops.com NBA ‏@InsideHoops 1m1 minute ago
    #Sixers up 3 on #Heat, 2:51 left in game.

  • rookie75094

    The Huston rockettes lose again…yeah.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! So happy to see this… Poor Lawson, got 0 pt w only 16 min. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    Rox lose. YA!!!

  • joyce ward

    Makes you wander why are Heat struggling to beat the Sixers

  • grover chang

    Knicks win four in a row. Porzingis is the real deal. Eleven of the 15 eastern conference teams are above 0.500. Hornets need to give their $2 million dollar man the ball if they want to make the playoffs.

  • CJSHYY

    Too bad, if Lin is in NYK now they will win lots of games. Hornets? Let’s see what Cliff will do on Mon?

  • grover chang

    CP3. Age before beauty.

  • golfhacker

    You learn something new everyday! Thanks)

  • grover chang

    Honestly, Knicks look just fine without Lin. They needed Lin and then they needed Kidd to move the ball and not let Melo hog the ball. The triangle moves the players and forces Melo to pass. Now Jackson has the type of players to do that. Melo has accepted the triangle. Jordan, Kobe, Melo are all shooters that needed to share the ball more. This is why Jackson always says he likes the triangle. Great scorers now need to pass and move.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope ISO shooters in Hornets can do the same.

  • Steppen03

    Hellooo, Lin fans =)
    Porzi! Porzi!
    HooWoo!!! Knicks blow Rockets out their building! well, just by 5 points. Too bad the 76ers didn’t get the W over Heat. Dragic – 6 pt in 25m played. I’ve told the Hornets fans that Lin >> Dragic. before season began. Clearly, Lin is the player that can make the most out of bad situations.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Even Dragic got the money but he sure didn’t get the 18M player treatment from Heat… plays bad now. Another poor guy it’s Lawson bc he’s in bad situation too but he just couldn’t carry the team like Lin did in Rox…. But of course Lawson got even worst treatment from Rox only played 16 min w 1 shot? I think when PB comes back he will be 3rd option.

  • Rick Johnson

    Chris Baldwin is going to have a good season rubbing it in on the Rockets.

  • Rick Johnson

    First time the Knicks have beat the Rockets since 2009. They’ve never beaten the Rockets when JLin was on the Rockets even when the Knicks were playing well.

  • CJSHYY

    I really happy for NYK. Hate Rox so much… Now they are really not good. LOL!

  • Grace Nsns

    🙂 Harden saw kardashian on the court?

  • Steppen03

    I hate ROX more than Lakers. Others are nuts that they think Hou was better than LA, Hornets. So much bad press in Hou. It was a big joke when Bev started over Lin just because McHale can’t coach. Bev came in for defensive stops while our boy warms the bench …. Big Freaking Joke. I don’t care if Lin had the first year there – playing heavy minutes- however, even then, he wasn’t fully maximized. The good cannot outweighs the bad over there ?

  • grover chang

    I have not gone back to CF for the past two seasons. Went back to see what they thought about this implosion called the Rockets. Others have mentioned it but I was like, “really?” There was the the game thread, various other rocket related thread, and 3 Lin threads. Really?! I can’t believe they are still discussing Jeremy Lin on clutch fans.

  • kittyhead

    Please let Dantoni go to the Hornets now!

  • joyce ward

    I saw that too, and I’m like really yall still got a lin thread.LOL

  • MoominFloren

    And those haters are still in full force bashing Lin…that’s crazy

  • TTNN

    Oh, Master Luo is with him now. Yeah, a full week without away game, he will get things settle a bit. Hopefully he will get himself physically and mentally fixed during this time.

  • Steppen03

    To others posts:
    Don’t really think Hornets gonna let CCliff walk away. He seemed like a good coach. Yeah, he never made past the 1st round But who did he had ? This year IS his biggest challenge, test what he’s got as a coach. This is the best team he had so far. We CAN be the Top 4 EC team – Its all up to CCliff to make it work.

  • TTNN

    Play Hansbrough instead, should work perfectly.

  • joyce ward

    I think Clifford might have considered going to the rockets at one time, but not now. I think he likes the team he has assembled and if they do well, then he will have some bargaining chips for his next contract. I think rockets got way too much drama for him.

  • CJSHYY

    They have no life in Houston w Rox. LOL!

  • Acbc

    That’s how I feel as well.

  • grover chang

    Read a couple of the threads. Besides them mentioning Lin, they also bring up Asik and Parson. I guess just a consequence of Morey’s “fantasy basketball” style of management. He goes through so many players there is a higher chance of Rocket Fans becoming nostalgic about past players.

    I hate how Morey treats players like numbers instead of people. The fans are cheated from really having a team to grow with and attach to. A lot of the callousness in the Rocket fan base I blame on the environment Morey created. Already calls for trades are starting, including their former missing piece Dwight Howard.

  • CJSHYY

    Rox is only 2 games ahead of the Lakers! Thank you. Kardashian Curse do the magic!!! LOL!

  • grover chang

    And first thing Clifford focuses on is defense. He would pull his hair out if he could, dealing with Haren and his lack of D. Could not see Cliff going to Houston. (Unless he could bring Lin with him as his starting pg, LOL).

  • CJSHYY

    Me too. Rox is why Lin got so many bad press from…. M&M are really evil to Lin. Now one gone wait for the other….

  • grover chang

    No worries, Kardashians are teaching Harden how to take the only SHOT that matters.

  • Acbc

    I call it a shark tank team where only the chosen big fishes gets to eat. The little ones get abused and thrown eventually. It’s no way for teammates to ever care about anyone else but themselves when you know that either you step on others to become one of the feeders or you yourself will be eaten.

  • JoeTeam

    who would want a Harden on their team? Hard to play bball with 1 guy. Most key games are won in last 2 mins, and Harden just demands that ball.

  • kittyhead

    If the Hornets don’t extend his contract in the mid-season that’s possible.Maybe DH suggests it?

  • Whitman Lam

    James Harden lost his job to a drugged out Lamar Odom in a hospital bed.

  • JoeTeam

    DM is gone. He fired McH as a last ditch. He’s next.

  • jeremy

    Thats just unfortunate
    no need to make a joke out of it

  • your son’s voltaire

    the whole thing is hilarious. i can’t get enough of it

  • Renmei

    It kinda sucks being both a Lin and Rockets fan on here, ya’ll carry grudges lol I grew up in Houston watching Hakeen and Yao so I’ll never give up on my team even though this current version is very painful to watch and not very likable.. *sigh*

  • jeremy

    That Lamar almost died?

  • LinMad

    is that Michael Jordan?

  • JoeTeam

    I’m for Rox getting stronger. DM and JH are not good for the team game. I like Les (at least what I’ve read. Yao and Hakeem were good yrs. McH, DM, JH … crashed it. CF Dhardisty … not a good place. Rox good.

  • sealtrader

    Somehow I feel that state of the Rocket currently has something to do with the thing called “KARMA.” it all started with the HAR_REN trade involved with both JL boys. How ironic !!! Live with haren and with haren !!!!

  • your son’s voltaire

    don’t be stupid

  • your son’s voltaire

    talk about grudge. CF site still has a Lin tread where they bash on Lin and his fans constantly

  • I feel for ya =)
    I actually enjoyed watching Hakeem’s Dream Shake and Kenny “the Jet” Smith championship years during MJ’s baseball years.

    But Morey and McHale definitely are the Darth Sidious and Darth Vader characters in JLin’s career. It’s only by God’s grace that JLin is strong enough to survive the belittlement and yanking to shake his confidence. If you remember, he had to endure no praises and being scapegoated in the press conference and media.

    Besides Lin handling, Morey and McHale are very unsavory characters and went about building championship teams in the wrong way, treating players like assets. Now Morey sacrificed McHale and he’s soon going to be gone. Which real coach would want to play for Morey after what he did to McHale?

    I don’t think many Lin fans necessarily hate the franchise but only these two characters. Oh yeah, the HOU media is the 3rd unsavory character. Even Jason Friedman had to leave his job because he’s a good guy.

  • joyce ward

    Actually the truth is we could care lees about the rockets. The rocket fans still hating on lin, so you get no empathy or sympathy here.

  • your son’s voltaire

    don’t be stupid

  • joyce ward

    I love you Joe Team, sorry I am indifferent to the rockets . Their treatment of lin was atrocious. All I can say is karma is a bish

  • jeremy

    well thats part of it
    not funny when someone almost died

  • please, no personal attack

  • sealtrader

    Word!! Girl, I second that.

  • kauaiblue

    Agreed.

  • Steppen03

    What’s so good about these K-girls ?? They have hypno eyes… Smh… The family is Not good for kids, family values.

  • Steppen03

    Most people deserve a second chance, one like Odom. Can’t say that to “real” murderers, serial killers, IS extremists.

  • Joe what do you know

    So I take that D’Antoni is Master Yoda…?

  • JoeTeam

    You’re right about how they treated Lin. Vengeance is God”s. We can watch.

  • JoeTeam

    Ps, the harden khardas thing just makes it a joke. Karma is yet to come, they just jumped the shark.

  • kauaiblue

    No one here cares about rox…

  • PETE B

    I liked Rox and Harden and Morey , they could have been better if Lin could lead more IMO

  • spiderman

    Can’t be happy people carrying all that hate

  • GoodDayLA

    I like seeing moreys downfall for killing the career of the first talented asian or asian american nba guard of the modern era.

    The guy is a crook and will land on his feet elsewhere though. He is good at the game.

  • GoodDayLA

    I said for years it was a harden vs lin debate. So many blind lin fans got worked up over pat beverly. It was always harden versus lin. Lin had the game but not everything else to wrestle the throne away from Harden. And now Lin is asian tony allen.

    Hardens a bad joke and so lacking in so many ways. I dont think lin will break through again like i want him to but at least im seeing the fall of morey harden and mchale. D12 too because thats one stupid guy as well who didnt see how lin could have turned him into ed davis on steroids.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The bad experience of Lin with the Rockets really stink and I have never been so upset about the management and coaching of a team. Both are inept. They treated a player like Lin as inhumanly as possible. The ClutchFans in Rockets sort of declared war with us before we do. I wouldn’t care less if Rockets turning out to be 76ers since their GMs are buddy buddy.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He could leave for a contender.

  • GoodDayLA

    Clifford so far is terrible at the most important facet of coaching: deciding who plays, when, and for how much. I have no doubt he is a brilliant bball mind but the most important and only job of an nba coach is extremely simple yet oh so difficult.

  • GoodDayLA

    Clifford is not doing well so far. I give him a C on his coaching ability. He is fair with Lin but he’s not coaching smartly.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You think it’s easy to find a coach for Harden.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Karma, McHale.
    Who’s next?
    Byron Scott, you’re on hot seat now. All eyes are watching. What are you going to do about this. There is no more Jeremy Lin to throw under the bus. You’re on your own.

  • Guest

    support your team like usual, all you can and forget what the rest have to say about it. Support Lin like usual, all you can and forget what the rest have to say about it. It’s really that simple. i assume you are not looking for common ground with others, you just venting like everyone else here, and it’s understanding.

  • GoodDayLA

    Lol. I think byron makes it through the season. Winning 1 or 2 out of 10 is enough to get by.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Nobody thought Clifford has the talents to succeed since the last season. Clifford deserves lots of credit of taking the team to the position now. Nothing enough credit has been given to this coach and I think the FO has not been very helpful to him too.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Perhaps he would then make to take his team to a really shameful record; much worse than the NY team who has been enjoying some success so far. All of a sudden the Knicks becomes watchable again; not like the Lakers. Give one tick to Phil Jackson and Fisher.

  • GoodDayLA

    Porzingis is really good. That is why nyc is watchable!

  • Rick Johnson

    Lakers are starting a more difficult stretch. I see them only beating the 76ers in the next 12 games. So they’ll be 3 / 22?

    Portland
    GSW
    Portland
    Pacers
    76ers
    Wizards
    Hawks
    Pistons
    Raptors
    Timberwolves
    Spurs
    Rockets

  • occupatio

    going up against cousins on monday. If cliff doesnt play psycho for this game, he’s a stubborn clown.

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah, i agree… lol

  • Yascar

    I’m sorry, but this is hilarious!

    I remember one time when Jeremy was trying to defend and hit Harden’s arm and how everyone in CF called him stupid for weeks.

    Well… take this from your superstar! What goes around comes around.

    http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/11/21/9777128/james-harden-jumped-right-into-jose-calderon-playing-leap-frog

  • Lam

    Words of wisdom that applies to some Lin fans too.

  • LAJane

    Looks like a primo Shaqtin’ moment to me 🙂

  • real-dsb

    I also think that Byron will last the season, because the Lakers will realize they have no shot this year again and need to tank.

  • real-dsb

    Well, it is quite unbelievable that Clutchfans’ Lin thread is still going (so I’ve heard, I never go to CF).

    On the other hand, Lin fans are still checking on CF as well.

  • Michael

    Lol, thanks for the new word that can pass thru spell check…a bish.

  • real-dsb

    LOL

  • Phillycheese

    Agreed. It’s all on Lin. He’s got the opportunity. He will realise soon that his natural ability, plus lots of practice will see him through.

  • sealtrader

    Ladies and Gents, there is a new thread in Crutch Fans the title is, you ready for this: Would you prefer Ty instead nof JLin? What’s the obsession with JLin after all this time with Houston ??? Lin still has most page on “Crutch site” even after he left that toxic place!!!! Sight…. just sight………..

  • NONONO

    Rockets 5-9? I like to see how would they compete with Lakers.

  • Rick Johnson

    Something has got to be wrong with JLin physically to be in such a shooting slump such as his back and hence flying out the acupuncturist / massage therapist. Hopefully the 2 days off between games will help get him healthy.

    Has anybody had experience with back pains and acupuncture? Did it help?

  • NONONO

    I just read the last comment:
    “Part of Lin’s problem here was because of his contract, but now Lin’s getting paid 2 mil a year. I’m sorry but unless you’re completely trolling, I don’t see how any rocket fan right now can prefer Ty Lawson over Jeremy Lin thus far this year.”

    But I think Lin’s contact would go over what Rockets paid him (8mil/year) by next year. BTW, He wouldn’t not play for any team if he cannot play BIG part of team. It means he wouldn’t play for Hornets neither if he still played the role he has right now.

  • NONONO

    I think it is mental issue. He seems confused his role in the team. He comes to Charlotte for being big part of team success. But his role is very limited so far.

  • Rick Johnson

    Interesting thing is that that thread was started 3/2013 and there were many positive comments back then. It was just recently bumped.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe Master Lo does more than acupuncture….. Yes they do help. That is my concern since the first couple games. Believe he does have some minor injuries. Good that Master Lo is with him. This will help him to recover faster.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Don’t believe it’s mental issue.

  • Rick Johnson

    My opinion is that its his back. He had a similar slump after shooting starting his second year with the Rockets then had back problems and shooting slumped. Remember him riding a bicycle on the side and having big pads wrapped around his back. He’s dealt with worse stress and marginalization before and he’s relatively happy with his team and teammates as per bits we’ve been getting and from Lin fans going to games and sitting behind the bench. I don’t think it’s mental.

  • NONONO

    mental issue does mean mental weakness or something bad. the situation “chip on shoulder” with limited role could cause “over drive, over defense, over shot”.

  • NONONO

    I disagree. He did much better shooting when the as starter than a backup sg in 76ers game.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Saw him a few times that he touched his shooting arm/hand after a bad fall. Combined with back issues…. JLin never uses all these to hinder his play even when he deals with them but they do affect his shooting….

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep I understand. Read his new update prayer list that he just sent out this morning. You know he is in the right place.

  • NONONO

    I hope so. can you send me the link? thanks.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    There is no link. Believe I saw blubell copy and paste in last thread. It showed on the featured comment. Hope it’s still there.

    Update: Just checked. It’s still there.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Repost JLin’s prayer requests #13

    First
    is a praise to God for softening my prideful heart to have recently
    found supernatural peace and rest, regardless of my circumstances. As I
    start my 6th year in the NBA, I’d say I’ve enjoyed the first couple
    months of this season more than any other season, mainly because God is
    showing me more and more the intricacies of understanding that my
    identity as a person isn’t in my job or performance, but in Him.

    Please
    pray that I would stay in this state of mind. As a very emotional
    person, I know it can be a quick change from being in a great place
    mentally/spiritually to worrying and being anxious about my life and
    future.

    Prayer
    that I would strengthen my prayer life. God has been tugging at my
    heart telling me that I am not the center of the universe. I wake up
    everyday and think about what I need to do and what I hope to
    accomplish. Most of my thoughts center around me, but recently I’ve been
    reminded that its not about me, it’s about God. I am His servant and
    vessel. So prayer for me to not be so self-centered and to spend more
    time praying for other people would be great!

    Prayer
    for our team as we’ve started a Bible study and many of my teammates
    have shown a hunger to either learn more about Christ or strengthen
    their relationship with God.

    Prayer
    for my mom to find refreshment and revitalization personally and
    spiritually as she takes a couple of weeks off from work.

    Prayer
    for all the individual requests that you guys have been sharing through
    this email thread. We have spent time praying for many of the requests
    you guys have sent, and hope to see God work powerfully and miraculously
    in your lives.

    Please
    pray for those affected by the recent evil and violence in the
    world including Paris, Beirut, Syria, and other war torn countries.

    Please remember the JLIN team reads and prays over your prayer requests
    although we unfortunately we cannot respond to you individually.

  • spiderman

    That some Lin fans continue to go to that dung dump is surprising. I guess some go there to be entertained by their implosion

  • NONONO

    “As a very emotional person, I know it can be a quick change from being in a great place mentally/spiritually to worrying and being anxious about my life and future.”

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Only been there once and twice before I’ve found JLin fan forum more than 2 years ago. No point to go to such a negative place. I even don’t like and stop reading when posters here become too negatives. Life is too short to fill with negative thoughts.

  • Spot

    A game he plays with 2nd unit as PG, then SG with starters, then ball to Lamb and di what you want, then wait in the corner a see if a ball happens in your hands.
    Jeremy is the only player who tries to play team ball in a team without gameplan.

    Look at Nash’s stats with Bryant.

    Oh wait, but Clifford is a good coach, he truly believes in Jeremy…

  • Rick Johnson

    I wish Davis came with JLin. But good for him:

    Portland Trail Blazers Forward Ed Davis Praised After Huge Game

    http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/11/21/9775286/portland-trail-blazers-forward-ed-davis-praised-after-huge-game

  • Yascar

    Undoubtedly!

  • kjch

    There’s a fan on this forum who supported Knicks for almost 50 years before he started rooting against them because of how they treated Lin…. So anything is possible lol.

  • wu kong

    What I find interesting is that there can be ‘team’ fans anymore. Especially Rockets. The players have been turned over and over so much. What do you follow? What makes you still a Rockets fan. not meaning to pick specifically on yo or Rockets but i find it fascinating. expect for a few teams like say Spurs or GSW who have a core set of players that have stayed for extending time so you can grow from a players fan to a team fan?? The NBA promotes the player, the star of the team. fantasy leagues promote the player, the star over the team. NBA promotes fantasy league…how is anyone suppose to be able to support a team under these circumstances?

  • wu kong

    and they come here often. cut and paste postings and put them over there to laugh and ridicule… Geesh talk about stalker psycho behavior…

  • Spot

    How can I send my personal prayer request? It’s for a friend of mine

  • Brent Yen

    Yep…as simple as that

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Sign up JLin prayer request, then you can post one.

  • kittyhead

    I think it’s natural for people to support teams in their own hometown even if they’re bad. It never occurred to me that I would detest an NBA team so much. It’s hard to imagine its fans/head coach/FO/medias could blame a player who’s done nothing wrong for EVERYTHING.

  • kittyhead

    wow I didnt know their stalking psycho behavior. Look like they’re so fascinated with Lin and his fans. For their own good, they had better ask for some help ASAP.

  • KHuang

    You mean the same Ed Davis that was a near zero against Lin’s Hornets?

  • kittyhead

    That ED is also Lin’s best pnr big after Tyson! I will never see enough of their connection!

  • CJSHYY

    I agree w you. Cliff so far is not doing a good job in Hornets. Don’t think Rox will take him.

  • NONONO

    Most NBA teams are more like or worse corporate america. GM/Coaches are all looking short term gain by gambling on few “super starters” and ignoring health and competitive long term team culture.

  • NONONO

    Why Rockets is falling?
    “Dwight (Howard) and I are the cornerstones of the Rockets,” said Harden. “The rest of the guys are role players or pieces that complete our team. We’ve lost some pieces and added some pieces. I think we’ll be fine next season.”

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Here’s an example of one of your “Top10” dead wrong opinions. You don’t seem to understand the value of “chemistry.” Lin has made it known that “Ed is his guy.” Lin made a sincere effort to join the same team as Davis in FA. When you belittle the Lin-Davis connection you are going against Lin’s own BB judgement.

  • webattorney

    Nothing wrong with him physically IMO. He just expands a lot of energy in defense and has worked on some changes in his shooting motion. Will not be surprised to see his shooting percentage for this season go down.

  • webattorney

    Hakeem was a very humble and great two-way player worthy of being the franchise player in Houston. MJ said he would pick Hakeem as the center of his dream team. Enough said.

  • webattorney

    I agree. It doesn’t make sense to me to be a fan of certain team, let’s say Lakers, just because I live in Southern CA. In this “connected” age, we become fans of teams which we can relate to. For example, I am a fan of Barcelona over Real Madrid because I can relate to the way they do things even though I never lived there.

  • webattorney

    To be fair, the bashing is done by around 5 posters. Other posters make fun of them for being obsessive about Lin, calling them even secret Lin fans. Essentially, these around 5 posters do not dislike Lin because they think he s*cks, etc. or Lin fans because they think Lin fans are crazy, etc., but because they are racists IMO. I am talking about just these posters, not all Rockets fans.

  • David Kim

    SI.com: I read about the presentation you gave during the Las Vegas Summer League and, essentially, you said to build a team’s offensive attack around a post player playing with his back to the basket is wasting an opportunity offensively. Why do you think that?

    D’Antoni: If you look at the stats around the league, a post-up is not a very good shot. [Laughs] It just isn’t. Now again, in our business and leagues, a lot of times you say something and people take that as 100%: You’re always going to have post-ups and you’re always going to have 15-foot shots. They have not become the best shots. The best shots are layups and foul shots and three-point shots. So you try to gear your offense to where you can exploit those three things. And then, other teams are smart: They run you off the three so you have to shoot a 15-footer, or you can get a mismatch inside where you can post-up, and when you get a mismatch, you have to exploit that. But to go down and put your best offensive player on the block against their best defensive player, it’s just not a great option anymore. It just isn’t.

    Mike dantoni is really good coach. I hope he can reunite with Lin

  • webattorney

    Good one.

  • webattorney

    Yeah, even though Lin made Ed better, we have to keep in mind Ed made Lin better also. It goes both ways. If were Ed fans, we would be saying “Man, only if Ed had PGs who would run PnRs with him, he could be a really good player.”

  • webattorney

    Knicks have decent 3 point shooters now also. Knicks offense looking better than Rockets offense. Porzy making opponents change their shots so they are even missing lay-ups. Porzy as a rookie is already better than Dwight who’s getting paid max money. What a steal by Knicks. Phil Jackson has managed to rescue Knicks from its downward spiral with this single move. I have rarely seen Harden get his shots blocked several times!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    What makes it worse for Scott is the fact that there’s a lot of top coaches who can’t wait until Scott is fired so they can have a chance at the job.

    Scott will definitely be gone…The reason he’s not gone already is because of guys like Worthy, Magic and Kobe…After this year is done, he will be fired.

    Scott needed to show improvement from last year to keep this job and the team has gone backward.

  • CJSHYY

    Can’t agree more on this… hope Cliff will find how to adjust well….

    https://twitter.com/Sportige/status/668463887935778821

    While it’s great to see Jeremy Lin show up in the starting lineup for one time this season, if it remains with the current settings, it’s not going to help him or the Charlotte Hornets.

  • wu kong

    one of the biggest culprits over there from the beginning was Clutch himself. I really believe he started and continues it for Clicks on his site. He may now actually hate Lin and the fans but I believe it started for $$$. The entire site is a cesspool.

  • spiderman

    Greg; ” For some reason, he’s trying to do the same things that made the Hornets miss the postseason a year ago instead of embracing the changes and new players he has, which includes shifting the balance of this team into more capable hands, that mean playing better basketball. Maybe at some point he’ll be fully committed to the idea, but so far he’s having a hard time accepting it”

  • Spot

    Already subscribed long time ago 🙂

    Thank you Melody 😉

  • spiderman

    a very good point

  • Spot

    “Clifford won’t keep his job without making the playoffs. For some reason, he’s trying to do the same things that made the Hornets miss the postseason a year ago instead of embracing the changes and new players he has, which includes shifting the balance of this team into more capable hands, that mean playing better basketball. Maybe at some point he’ll be fully committed to the idea, but so far he’s having a hard time accepting it.”

    Thank God I’m not the only one in saying this

  • Rick Johnson

    Same lineup as Friday?

    Rick BonnellVerified account
    ‏@rick_bonnell
    Zeller and Hairston both practiced today. @hornets listing them as questionable for Kings game Monday.
    https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/668485190596091905

  • KHuang

    As usual, you cannot fire posts without personal attacks.

    Besides, I was talking about Ed Davis struggling in ONE GAME against Lin’s Hornets without Lin to protect him. You PRETEND that did not happen.

    Let’s keep fighting, your made up stuff against my hard stats and video.

  • KHuang

    Before the season started, I wrote on this forum that the Charlotte Hornets starting lineup would probably need a lot of Jeremy Lin if Jeremy Lamb wasn’t the starter.

    The Hornets need a savvy two way SG who can space the halfcourt and play solid defense. So far, Lin’s been the only player that can do that.

    I’m not necessarily for or against Lin starting.

  • Rick Johnson

    I’m against him starting if he’s going to be 5th option. What a waste.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    You PRETEND that you haven’t put Ed Davis down in dozens upon dozens of posts. Every time Ed is mentioned you never fail to belittle him. Every casual reader of this blog knows that and has rolled his eyes at you. This is just one of your top 10 head shakers that you love to bombastically post over and over again. Now admit you’re wrong as you claimed you would instead of flying off the handle and responding with nonsensical attacks.

  • heart

    I pray that his mom is ok. First time Lin is asking prayers for his mom.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Putting JLIN in the starting lineup is an essential first step in right direction. Now Cliff has to lay down the law and insist that everyone try to pass to the open man including JLin. It’s hard to lay down the law when you’re blowing out the pathetic Sixers. Plus Cliff took the opportunity to experiment with Roberts. We need to see what Cliff does against more challenging opponents.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    What are the negatives?

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe…It’s really hard to predict what Cliff will do…

  • JoeTeam

    nice article!

  • occupatio

    with the lack of ball movement by batum and kemba, even al, lin is wasted on the starting unit. theres no saving them.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Can anybody list one negative that is an unavoidable consequence of Lin starting? The only way I can explain large numbers of Lin fans thinking that starting is a bad thing……….PTSD!

  • occupatio

    lin in starting lineup is just doing a Hairston: hope to get the ball from cuts, get fed for open 3s, and play intense D. its just getting the leftovers.

    the problem isnt the lineup per se but that the starters dont play 5 on 5. especially kemba and batum.

  • JoeTeam

    Some of the overlap between Batum and Lin has been good, a few plays. I don’t watch the first unit.

  • occupatio

    in those instances, lin cut to the basket. (that’s doing a hairston).

    and if lin didnt make that cut, batum would be stuck because he cannot create off the dribble, and gets stuck frequently.

    it should be reversed: letting lin create off the dribble and the screen, and batum cutting. but cliff, that’s cliff’s love for batum.

  • JoeTeam

    great share.

  • JoeTeam

    Dmorey is next.

  • JoeTeam

    yep, I think with the web, a fan can follow his fav 5 players around the league. More winning moments 🙂 and you don’t have to live with your team blowing every season like most fans do.

  • CJSHYY

    Lin/Batum is better than Lin/Kemba.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, I see. But Lin is not PG so they are just doing it. I see your point that Lin made it work – but do you think Harden would pass to Lin or Kobe, in that situation? Melo might have done, but he would have taken the shot first.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    So Lin starts, plays about 6 minutes “like Hairston” and then plays the rest of the game exactly as if he were coming off the bench. He’s lost nothing. He’s gained 6 minutes of PT and has starter status.

    And we agree that Batum and Kemba have to pass to Lin more whether Lin starts or not.

  • occupatio

    who cares about harden. why are we revisiting that ? its not relevant to charlotte.

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t care about Harden. My point is Batum and Lin have some good plays together. more so then he had with Kobe, Harden, and Melo. Your point is it’s Lin’s doing – ok, I can see that. Relax, we’re just talking about Batum and I don’t think he’s as bad as what ppl are saying, though I didn’t watch first unit play.

  • occupatio

    that sounds good, but lin might not have the legs to play intense defense for such long stretches.

    i would rather see more lin and less hairston, but ultimately the problem is not hairston-lin minutes distributions but that kemba is doing way too much out there.

  • occupatio

    it would be nice if they werent so rigid in making kemba and batum be the main playmakers. if they just moved the ball more, then ppl’s natural playmaking ability will show. right now, they are just ‘taking turns’ playmaking and heroballing instead of making it come from the flow of things.

  • PETE B

    Clifford is backwards. If you want Al and Kemba to learn western conference ball movement. you need a western conference PG i.e. Lin to guide on the floor . He wants the team to learn from the coaching bench and not from the court in game. yes you will lose at first but if you learn from losses you will start to develop the new offense sooner than later
    Start Lin and play 35 + minutes

  • occupatio

    put differently, batum is also an excellent cutter, but he’s being made into the playmaker. lin does fine as a cutter too but the roles should come from the flow of the game instead of lin just slotted into the hairston role amongst the starters and batum getting so much shot-creation responbilities.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I think that’s the negative that come from playing for a defense minded coach. Lin has to expend a lot of energy on D so he might be limited to around 30 minutes total. I still think he should start though.

  • occupatio

    lin starting will benefit his reputation in the league. but realistically, hairston will be put back into the starting lineup. because cliff values keeping batum fresh and hairston can guard bigger ppl than lin, so hairston gets the edge, at least for the first half of the game. hairston is primarily there to minimize batum’s defensive responsibilities.

    even when lin closes games, if kemba is doing so much, lin often doesnt even touch the ball. again, the main issue is not lin’s role — there will be a place for him — but the oversized roles of his teammates.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, that’s why I liked that article posted below by CJSHYY. Basically, Cliff is going to stay near the failure cliff if he continues to play Kemba over Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    coach then should read your post, I think I agree. Batum will be more volume scorer if he has Lin at PG, working his play the way around you are saying.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes because his role is also to play touch D and Lin needs to decide when he put on the D fire. If he can make the team run downhill fast, D is not so important unless they cannot get separation.

  • occupatio

    IMO, the biggest failing in the starting unit is when batum gets a side PnR called for him or he calls it for himself. batum is excellent in the catch and shoot and very average and not efficent if he has to dribble pullup.

    what that means is that batum is best against catching the ball off screens and attacking closeouts. having him create against settled instead of scrambled defenses, is just a total fail. he’s not good at that, but cliff keeps putting him in that role.

  • JoeTeam

    I am amazed at how many effortless minutes Curry can play, and how his lows are mid20s and nowadays media hype a 25 pt game by others. This is a high five to your reference to WC PG. The standard is so high.

  • occupatio

    kemba will get his minutes, and kemba will be the starter. for various reasons, those are not up for debate. but kemba’s role has to change if this team is trying to do anything special instead of treading water at .500

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    So in Cliff’s mind, starting Hairston is preferable to Lin. But when Lin fans think Lin is better off coming off the bench that sounds like desperation to me.

  • JoeTeam

    there is always hope people will want to win over their way. Then again, you can be just a citizen and do it your way, so nobody has to step up and change. Guess that’s the reason we watch sports, we are looking for that moment of flash greatness so we can learn how to risk a change.

  • occupatio

    if Lin can get back to 20 PER and maintain that, it really doesnt matter whether lin starts or not. and more to the point, cliff will not start lin and i personally dont think it is very good for the team, UNLESS kemba and batum play better 5 on 5 basketball.

  • JoeTeam

    Nice, I’m learning … I’m not sure why Cliff is not adjusting faster. Seems to me Luke Walton is making changes to keep GSW in tune, and that game is much harder because everyone is gunning to stop the run. To me if you are paid that much, you’d try new things and try to converge on better results.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Let’s agree to disagree.

  • occupatio

    for the record, batum’s catch and shoot is above 50% (which is stellar, and this is also for 3 pointers) but is only around 33% for dribble pullup. the stats dont actualyl reflect how bad he is at dribble pullup bc many times he is incapable of even getting the shot off so its not counted in his percentage.

  • CJSHYY
  • occupatio

    i dont disagree with you, i just dont debate issues that cannot realistically change. specifically, the starter issue.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    A trade cannot be ruled out but you have to accept that Cliff is not going to taking the starting PG role away from Kemba and hand it to Lin. That’s a constraint that Cliff cannot avoid.

  • occupatio

    it would be bad for morale if kemba (somehow) lost his starting job to lin. thats something d’antoni would do, but d’antoni is not good at managing egos. he has lost his job bc of it, for both knicks and lakers.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    If Cliff suddenly got replaced by some random coach my PTSD would be out of control too.

  • occupatio

    i can prescribe medication for u. haha

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Lin did start and the team won. I don’t think Hairston’s “great D” is an insurmountable barrier to Lin earning the starting SG role.

  • occupatio

    the best thing about hairston is that he does not try to do more than he is capable of on the offensive end. this is such an unappreciated part of a player’s game. that cannot be said for other players in the starting lineup.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    But that’s hardly justification for the elite status of being a starter in the NBA.

  • CJSHYY
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Let him have the privacy. He’s so nice to fans in public already.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Imagine Lin and Step in the same team?

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    Good for PR but not really sure it’s good for Lin? Bc Curry plays so good now Lin will not have the chance to do too much….

  • CJSHYY
  • JoeTeam

    Yep, that’s why I don’t watch Linless minutes. Waste of time, I cannot learn anything front that. I have GSW to watch to enjoy team bball. I watch Lin minutes because he’s my top NBA guy because Linsanity is there in him every game, and that inspires. Steph has that too, and it’s been great to see and try to see how that team play applies to life.

  • JoeTeam

    Then it’s obvious because it’s off the charts good. Cliff either doesn’t know how to think about stats, or has politics, or has something causing him to be stubborn. We cannot tell, I guess.

  • Spot

    Charlotte Hornets: the only team who have bench better than starters.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    So Cliff claims that he starts PJ because of his defense. Never mind that the stats don’t support that claim. But if PJ is such a defensive stopper, why does he play so few minutes? And doesn’t it make more sense to play tighter defense at the end rather than the beginning? I don’t see a BB reason for starting PJ only a political one such as saving a spot for MKG.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    But I disagree with that post: starting is more important than a slightly higher PER (doubters will point out he played against bench players); Cliff may start Lin on a regular basis. We have to wait and see; and I think it is good for the team.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    To tell you the truth, I think it may be best that Jeremy plays off the bench so that he has more touches and can also play most of his minutes as the point guard.

    The other issue with Lin starting is the fact that he’s the 4th option on that unit when it comes to play calling…Kemba, Al, Batum are all ahead of him…So he barely gets to touch the ball to shoot….The only time he sees the ball is through cuts and maybe put back offensive rebounds.

    So as long as Cliff gives Lin his 25 minutes, I won’t mind him coming off the bench and run the second unit by dishing and scoring….

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I’m waiting for that new technology where they can erase bad memories. I’d erase that entire season with the Lakers.

  • occupatio

    i have a special potion. key ingredients are food scraps from harden’s beard, pus from kobe’s knee, venom from byron’s snake, stickiness from mchale’s hands. its like chemo, a poison strong enough to kill the bad stuff.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Kemba sits for only 13 minutes a game. So Lin can be PG for only 13 minutes and that should always be the case. Now where does the remaining 12-17 min come from? Lin must play SG for those min. So why not be starting SG?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Kemba is playing well enough + team is winning, so there’s no argument to start Lin ahead of Kemba at this point.

    On top of that, Lin is not shooting well….Lin is shooting 40%fg and 28%3point…….Kemba is at 43%fg and about 32% 3points…….So starting Lin ahead of Kemba should not be discussed anywhere at the moment…And I say that as a Lin fan…We need to be reasonable.

    If Jeremy numbers were much better than Kemba, than yes..but not when they are inferior to Kemba.

    Even if Lin’s numbers were much better, I doubt a switch would had occured this early UNLESS team had a terrible record like 2-10 with Kemba shooting 35%FG….At that point, I think Clifford would had made the switch while hoping to save his job.

  • Guest

    I hope that’s for the shirt term. What will be the long term goal? A perennial bench player?

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Sounds very tempting but I’ll still hold out for personalized, precision medicine.

  • Guest

    The now and future plan if Hornets have MKG, Nick Butm, Kemba Walker to be their starters. What will be Jeremy’s role? A perennial bench PG/SG? I can’t imagine e that Jeremy will be happy to be a back up the rest of his NBA career.

  • Steph the MVP

    Just run a Steph Curry fan site already..

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Whenever Lin starts, Roberts plays backup, so that means Lin doesn’t play PG at all when he starts.

  • Tim Pham

    does anyone know where I can buy lin gear for my nephew that is about 10 months old? Thanks

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    MKG is out for the season so I’m just focused on Lin restoring his reputation and then going back into FA.

    If Hornets want to keep him next season then perhaps MKG can play the 4. Or they’d have to trade Kemba. I don’t think Lin will stay a backup if he can help it.

  • Here is a link for a quick Amazon search on “Jeremy Lin kids hornets”
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=jeremy+lin+kids+hornets

    Ebay might also be a good source

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    That was one game against the hopeless Sixers. IMO Roberts should not step on the court if Lin and Kemba are healthy except for garbage time.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Good point on PJ is good D player but why he played so less… In fact, my friend & I were talking about this before… bc if PJ’s the best D player in the team then why he never closed the game? Just excuse only.

  • Steppen03

    To Others posts,
    We can only take One season at a time – Live in the now! Kemba is staying, he is the face of Hornets, Period. All we want is fair treatment of JL7 which is: 25+ min., play when it matters – for D & Offense, and close out in Q4. Everything else – they’re Not in our hands and maybe not in CCliff either. We don’t know. The positives are there. We can’t just dwell in the negatives.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Lin makes dreams come true. On his teams we’ve had starters like Bev, Ronnie Price, Sacre and now PJ. They must be more surprised than anyone.

  • CJSHYY

    Of course Lin will not want to be a backup only in Hornets bc he didn’t even take GSW back up job why he needs to take Hornets backup job? This year it’s all bc he thought he comes here they will let him plays his game. Just one year deal.

  • CJSHYY

    Got this from the other side…. Bulls really wants to get rid of Rose?!

    https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/668560310865817600

  • Steppen03

    Off Lin topic:
    This GS Team can go 20-0 and end the season with the best ever record. I sure hope so. I believe!
    I also believe that we will see Linsanity period again – with Lin getting more comfortable and going off and Linspired the whole team to go on a long run.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Yes. short term…Then, Lin can leave via free agency to a team that is willing to start him….Brooklyn Net and even the Knicks might need a starting PG…Both of these team have PG that are inferior to Lin statistical speaking….Jack has good stats but he’s 32…Lin is better than Calderon and Galloway.

    My hope is if Lin can put up some very good numbers coming off the bench for Charlotte, he may get a starting job next year + better contract….For this to happen, Lin will have to average about 13ppg with very good PER and Per36 numbers…His per36 will have to be 20ppg..Right now, it’s at 17ppg which is very good…I’m surprised his per36 is still very high, eventhough he’s in a shooting slump.

    If Jeremy can shoot up to his career FG% of 43%, I suspect his Per36 will go back to 20ppg…He will need great Per36 to get a starting PG job next year.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Garbage in, garbage out. (Is that too harsh?)

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It has happened again and again..This is the only game..I agree with you that Roberts should only play if Kemba/Lin are injured or in foul trouble.

    But Clifford seems to not agree at this point.

  • Steppen03

    Clippers just lose to the Raptors by 10 -but they were down by 28pt at the half. Doc and his stupid comment about GS’s luck in the playoffs…Smh!!!
    Real disappointments: Clippers & Pelicans.

  • CJSHYY

    A little bit. LOL! But I really don’t think any team wants to take Rose now even he’s MVP before….

  • CJSHYY

    Clippers is supposed to be good at least from the players’ list… Doc didn’t do a good job to bring out the best of these players.

  • KHuang

    I can think of one consequence:

    Lin’s touches DROPPING because Walker and Batum and Jefferson won’t pass Lin the ball.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    So what if I don’t think Ed Davis is the greatest?

    Your constant personal atttacks are getting TIRING.

    You hate my guts and are trying to flame me. So I’ll fight back.

  • jeremy

    none of these players are garbage
    they are all quality players
    but D rose needs to go

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I mean the Bulls trade Rose for a PG that’s even less efficient despite his injured state. The Hornets would get a $20 mil player who is just a shell of his former self, injury prone, and seeing double to the point he can’t shoot 3’s. GIGO.

  • KHuang

    Correct on both counts.

  • sport

    Clifford needs to have offense flow through Lin, Lamb, and Batum and less on Walker and Al for this team to make the offs!

  • 1mtoldman

    looking at the sked; they could quite realistically hope to not see their first loss until indiana at home with paul george playing back to his pre-injury standards; which would i think give them 22 strait. but thats just speculation of course.

  • occupatio

    dont need to get rid of rose, hes practically disappeared already.

  • 1mtoldman

    raptors score 30 in each of first two quarters then fail to score 30 in the entire second half: still get double digit win over the clueless clippers.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Lin has to play with Batum and Walker for MOST of his minutes anyway. So why not start the game with them. And Big Al is not a problem. He passed to J for his made 3 on Friday. And J got an assist from Al as well.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    This is the only game Lin started. And his minutes have gone up. I think things may continue to improve.

  • Whitman Lam

    Morey would do that trade. He wants to add more superstars to help out his under performing superstars.

  • Hope

    I say Lin will start vs Kings.

  • CJSHYY

    Why? Zeller said he is good ….

  • CJSHYY
  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I don’t dislike you at all. I like most of your posts. But you always state your opinions so confidently as if they were established facts. I’m just pointing out that sometimes you’re completely wrong. I’ll give you two more examples. You’ve softened your stance today but you have argued many times that you prefer Lin coming off the bench.

    Another example is when you deny that the Lakers were tanking last season. One of the reasons Lin’s season was so miserable with the Lakers is because Byron was purposely losing.

  • Yascar

    And this is why people should never underestimate team chemistry. Clippers are stacked with talent but like the Rockets, they’re imploding and really performing below expectations.

  • Rzo Vlade

    need boston to lose…pathetic clippers did not take care toronto… F@#k clip chokers

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I don’t know. Morey is more slimy and evil than he is stupid. Rose is damaged goods. He’s got to be the worst value in the NBA second only to Kobe.

  • I’d predict :
    1. Lin will also start again vs Kings because Coach Clifford liked how Hornets started well vs 76ers
    2. But he will be rested earliest (4 min left in Q1) so he will be fresh to lead 2nd unit in Q2
    3. He will play PG 50-50 with Brian Roberts to help them play team-ball.

    I think Coach Clifford will continue testing whether starting JLin at SG will still work to give starters good +/- against tougher opponent than 76ers.

    But he needs to figure out what’s the best way to use Lin in the 2nd unit w/o burning him out to be the main playmaker?

    Managing JLin’s energy to facilitate ball movement in the 1st and 2nd unit will not be easy.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Kemba plays about 32mpg..although, on some night, Cliff tend to play him 36-37……But the stats has Kemba at 32mpg…So that leave 16 minutes for Lin…That’s still not a lot, but enough to do something with and maximize these 16 minutes.

    Sacramento starts 2 point guards…Rando and Collison….So maybe Lin could stay in the starting lineup for at least this game since you would not want Batum to guard a much smaller and quicker Collison.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    Is Steve Ballmers a patient man? Or will Doc be the next coach to be McHaled?

  • CJSHYY

    Doc will not be Mc anytime soon… Ballmers seems to trust him well…. unless Clippers really can’t make it to playoff.

  • Eastern teams play more cohesively this season while Rockets and Clippers are imploding due to bad team chemistry.
    It will be tough for Hornets to be a higher seed this season

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  • gum

    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/51702568-video

    A huge fan of Jeremy established this non profit program in New York City.

  • NONONO

    Rose is like Grant hill. I do think Hornets wants him as starting PG. Backup PG maybe..

  • John Focker

    A Hornets fan would give a resounding no, a Lin fan would be more accepting as DRose is likely to go down and give Jeremy more opportunity to rise (only downside is that Marvin is a GREAT teammate).

  • CJSHYY

    It’s Rose? Just saw her picture w Lin in MSG on the other side. Really want her to visit this side… guess she didn’t know…

  • occupatio

    nets might beat boston

  • gum

    Yes, it is Rose. I am not sure if she knew of this site….but I just sent her a link to this place.

  • CJSHYY

    Good job. I don’t think she knows bc she is not on all the time….

  • John Focker

    Bringing in Austin to play daddyball (ridding Farmar) was a bad move, and possibly an early sign of things slowly falling apart.

  • Acbc

    It’s never good to have a son in the mix, especially one who has not been proven elsewhere.

  • LinMad

    what’s her net worth?

  • Acbc

    They got a lot of help against the Raptors by the ref. In the last minute they called 2 really marginal fouls aginast the Raps. One of an offensive rebounding foul against Lowrey where both were stretched and both had incidental contact. The last one was a moving screen lol. Raptors were cheated on GSW home court by home court refs.

  • Yascar

    They did. Good for CHA.

  • gum

    Absolutely I have no idea!

  • Guest

    She knows. She posted like once here before.

  • NONONO
  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is Rose’s web site — http://caiolaproductions.com/theater/

    Her husband is Luigi Caiola, the Managing Member and CEO of B and L Management LLC, a real estate development company. See : http://www.bandlmanagement.com/About-Us.htm

  • Acbc

    Enjoy it while you can JT. Stef Curry has changed the game and no coaches have yet devised a game plan against it yet. But eventually someone will. The fact that he shoots so well from so far out has created an unbalanced trading of points. No other player has done it yet, but they will. Just as the bigs are now shooting 3s all over the place, some kid is out there pretending he’s Stef Cirry and hitting 200 3s in a row. Right now it’s the experts and coaches who just can’t believe it. They still believe that Spurs will win it all with 2 bigs. Trading 2s with 3s is just not good math.

    When Shaq was dominant, coaches devised “hack a Shaq”. Traded 2s for 1. That math was obvious. Some coach will find a big shadow for Curry and force him off the ball or make him beat them with 2s and gamble on the other Splash Brother to make them.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    No. Not even one of them.

  • JoeTeam

    You are right and this is why this year had been a delight. Steph and GSW seems to have improved, and it’s not Kerr lol.

  • JoeTeam

    you can since you took the time to make up a name and troll me.

  • Thanks for sharing.

    Kudos for Rose who took the time to set up great basketball program for inner-city kids.
    Making a difference especially to the next generation is awesome!

    Perhaps if Jeremy ever has the chance to play for Brooklyn Nets; he can make an appearance
    Double Thumbs-Up!

  • true, .. Master Yoda is resting at the moment, waiting for the right time =)

  • your 18/4 might hit more often than not =)

  • Acbc

    Lin is playing the Parsons role or the Green role as Khuang suggested. He can slash and cut for 2s at the basket, make the occasional midrange if nothing inside and make the 3 off ball because Lin’s 3 is still the best on the team. It is because Cliff needs Lin to break the defence by forcing it open and it is also because he can only trust Lin to do it on bothe ends of the court.

    Lin will break out soon if he’s given the green light in that role as slasher splash 3. The real problem is keeping the jealousy fire down.

  • John Focker

    You’re absolutely right. If you’re gonna be bringing a son in, his name better be Stephen Curry (or his game is just as good).

  • Acbc

    That may indeed be political to keep Batum happy because he was promised that role. Th FO probably feels they have a better chance of keeping Batum than Lin after this year.

  • JoeTeam

    it’s brewing for a series of great games.

  • gum

    It would be super if Jeremy can make it. I wonder if he has access to this site.

  • Acbc

    No any team with Lin on the bench has it.

  • JoeTeam

    Seth was at GSW and they let him go to PHX last year. Now he’s with Sac.

  • TTNN

    This is petty funny.

  • Yes, Nets won 111-101

    Hornets/Detroit/Celtics are 7-6 now, only have a game behind Knicks at #8th with 8-6

  • Great sideline clips showing JLin chemistry with assistant coach & teammates..

    Awesome & hilarious Cody Zeller Sock Drive skit =)

    PS: Good hug from Covington in the end

  • TTNN

    yeah, for that sock drive, it was their real voice…..

  • John Focker

    Lakers now 29th record in the league, defending that top-3 protected pick.

  • TTNN

    this season East is crazy, and West is exploding….

  • yeah, I thought it was a parody but that was JLin’s real voice.

    Great things they’re doing for charity.
    It would be funnier if they appear as themselves wearing socks as hats =)

  • LinMad

    Jeremy Lin on bench highlights?

  • TTNN

    76er is beyond sad. I don’t mind seeing Lakers sink…..

  • blubell
  • Lakers & 76ers seem to always be contenders in the Great Tank Race!

  • LinJa

    Off topic. So the team I’m rooting to win it all would be 1. Spurs, I want Duncan to have more rings than Kobe in the decade. 2. Warriors, steph to have more rings than lebron. After that it’s be hornets lol. If they all lost, I’d be rooting against cavs, and thunder. I’m more a player driven guy. My rox team is not worth cheering since Yao unfortunately. I thought when Lin came to rockets we’re gonna be like Spurs then with Howard came, I thought we’re set. But major disappointment how ego and politics came to play.

  • sport

    Seth is from the same basketball family of Dell and Stephen Curry, pretty sure he’ll develop into a great shooter over time as well. It took time for Marc Gasol to develop into a star as well.

  • during the season I doubt he reads fan sites but there might be JLin team members who keep him in the loop for interesting things

  • JoeTeam

    yes, I would love to see him do well. I talked to him at a game last year. Asked him where he was and he said he was down in Ariz. V nice, he was, his dad, mom, and family. That’s what I love about that family – they are cohesive and hang out at the games with each other.

  • Love Lin

    Ha.. Lip sync.. hes cute.. 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    That’s different Rose…

  • plus Marvin Williams is indispensable as 3pt shooter & rebounder

    I don’t know if DRose can be half-Kemba or Lin at this point in his career.
    So many injuries … I guess he didn’t change his dangerous game as quick as DWade did

  • John Focker

    It must be great getting paid millions to FAIL. I just don’t have that kind of talent, I’d feel too ashamed.

  • Maybe Lin is practicing to audition for Jimmy Fallon’s lip sync battle =)

  • John Focker

    Glory to teamball and death to heroball, in other words. 🙂

  • John Focker

    Much better if it was straight DRose for Kemba.

  • JoeTeam

    Watching Mudiay of Denver v GSW. He’s not as good as Lin. He is aggressive, but he doesn’t make anybody else good so while his stats are good, Denver is not able to muster anything against GSW.

  • Rick Johnson
  • Guest

    No. It’s not “Rose”, it’s “Rosebud” I’m talking about.

  • GoodDayLA

    false.

  • GoodDayLA

    zcode completely check mated every statement and argument you put forth. zCode spoke to fact while you speak to hypotheticals.

  • GoodDayLA

    i said it was lin vs. kemba since summer but lin fans didn’t want to hear it. unless kemba gets hurt, lin is toast.

  • MorlockO

    Funny thing is if we were in the west, we would be 5th seed! loool!

  • Brent Yen

    Rose!!!!

  • kittyhead

    Gorgeous Rose and hansome boys!!!

  • Steppen03

    You got to go with GS Warriors winning it all: Two-Peat – Nothing can beat that Sweetness. They’re playing Beautiful basketball. But the sweetest will be: Warriors Vs Hornets (Lin-led) in the Finals – That’ll be the …

  • So GSW will have the chance to celebrate a 16-0 record start at the expense of Lakers?
    That would be ironic for Byron “3s don’t win championships” Scott

    GSW currently leads the NBA with 12.3 3FG Made/game
    Guess who’s at #3? Yes, Charlotte Hornets at 9.7

    https://twitter.com/LetsGoWarriors/status/668633555543719937

  • LinJa

    Hope they go 25-0

  • maybe 19-1

    Game 20 is at Charlotte =)
    JLin with 23pts/10asts in 2OTs

  • CJSHYY

    GSW will win for sure.

  • steven ko

    now that’s one hot MILF!

  • Acbc

    I’ll sign up when you do. I happen to think Curry can help Lin because the way Curry has change the game promotes the way Lin plays. It’s all good.

  • CJSHYY

    I like that… if Hornets really beat GSW then that sure will be big news in NBA. Hope Curry will not shoot well vs Hornets.

  • Acbc

    If Clifford can come up with a new game plan for D. The Horents have a chance. It will confirm my estimation of Clifford’s ability to coach Lin.

    To beat the GSW, hornets can’t sag off perimeter defence and force Curry off the 3pt line and make him beat them with 2s. Make him drive to the basket and single cover him with Lin and a rim protector. Cut off passing lanes to the 3pt lines where they like to shoot from and beat them by trading 2s.

    Run offence through Curry and make him work as hard as possible on coverage. Take his legs out and keep the game close until 4th. Then it will be clutch Lin against tired Curry for the win. If it comes down to that, I’d bet my money on Lin.

  • Jeremiah (the Grey)

    I heard the Warriors are installing gutters and drains around their court to catch the flow of purple and gold that will pour from the bloodbath. I wonder if Kobe has the nerve to show up that game. Tonight he shot a smoking 27% (6/22); 0% (0/5) from 3. He still got it! Just not enough talent around him.

  • JoeTeam

    I totally was thinking that. There aren’t many guards like curry in the league, Mudiay included. Lin is the closest thing to making his own shots and making his team great. Nice we agree.

  • JoeTeam

    That’s going to be so great … I wonder if Kobe will make the trip to be humiliated lol. I bet not.

    Now, wouldn’t it be great if they streak onward until JLin stops it. I’d love that, given the streak has to end sometime and it won’t be approached for years to come.

  • JoeTeam

    I’m with you, great mind!

  • rosebud68

    Hi Guys:)

  • rosebud68

    Hey Brent!

  • rosebud68

    So sweet. JLin always kind and says hi to us. Makes my boys feel special

  • JoeTeam

    Gonna be tough because GSW can get you all ways: KT, DG, Bogie, FEz, Barnes, Livingston, even Barbosa … those guys are playing team ball and it’s really fun to watch. You oughta check out Tues with LAL … they’ll smoke them.

    If Kobe stays home, LAL will do better 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    if you mean by record, I guess but you know, it’s pretty hard to get the same record in the west.

  • JoeTeam

    You’re famous! I’m so glad you are doing all you’re doing. I bet Lin would come to NY in Summer to help your nonprofit (I think I read that here).

  • JoeTeam

    Hello Stranger!

  • JJ Hui

    Saw your EPIC basketball program! Super impressed with your awesome personal award and achievements!

  • bolero

    wow. Rose is here.

  • DX

    Even Lin moved to Charlotte, still can’t be forget.

  • rosebud68

    Hey Guys. I started a not for profit basketball program in NYC.
    It is called EPIC sports. Fox 5 NY did a segment on it last Thursday
    And filmed my boys and coaches training and interviewed us all. If you want to check it
    out go to the Fox News website and search EPIC sports. We offer
    Basketball training by top NYC coaches as well as free academic
    Tutoring for inner city kids. Jeremy Lin has been a great role model
    For my boys and the program represents and I instills the same values
    Which Lin represents; team work,perseverance , brotherhood,
    Diligence and honor. We had our first league games today and
    I was so glad to see all the kids suited up in real uniforms made
    Possible through donations and seeing kids from all walks of life
    Supporting each other and playing as a family. I don’t know how
    To post the link but it is on the Fox News website under EPIC sports
    Have a great night !

  • rosebud68

    Thanks so much. 🙂

  • rosebud68

    Hey Joe. What’s the good word my friend 🙂

  • rosebud68

    I hope so. I will try to reach out to him through his agent. It would mean so much to the kids.

  • Steph the MVP

    Isn’t Curry the MVP?
    Oh sure you will have many fans signing up. You always have another supporter whose name is different from yours but identity is the same. LOL

  • bolero

    I checked the website, It’s cool. I hope JLin will visit you guys someday..

  • rosebud68

    Thanks hope so too 🙂

  • Hi, Rose =)

    Congrats for starting a great basketball & academic tutoring charity for inner-city kids!
    You are truly making a difference for the youth. I hope someday JLin would come and visit, perhaps in the off-season!
    @disqus_rRz5KCSRmB:disqus kindly posted the link below.

    Thank you for making an impact just like JLin and his foundation!

  • Yascar

    Hi Rose, somebody posted the link to the Fox segment further down this thread. Great stuff! Thanks for letting us know and for dropping by here. ?

  • Rick Johnson

    Hi Rose, Good to see you’re still a die hard Lin supporter like us!! Any first had game observations?

  • CJSHYY

    I saw the news & really great program. Good job, Rose!!!

  • Rick Johnson

    Here is the link. It was posted further down the page but I’ll repost it:

    Fox 5: EPIC basketball league
    A Broadway producer is helping get kids onto the basketball court

    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/51702568-video

  • Love Lin

    Just checked the website, its really nice 2 see one of huge Lin fans pays effort n put it into action 2 do non-profit program 4 the society.

    A heart that luvs is always beautiful.. To young n pretty Rose.. 🙂

  • Mr Chuckles

    At the ESPN website, they have a graphic with the next 5 teams they play with a percentage chance for a GSW win. It is interesting that the fifth game against the Hornets is only listed as a 70% chance of a win.

  • Acbc

    That’s a given. They have a great team, great players, great chemistry and best of all great team culture. I hope they keep doing well but just not against Lin. Lol. GSW are teaching the rest of the league a lesson that they don’t even know about. They are in a total state of shock and refusing to believe anyone can shoot so well from so far out.

    Winning must start by believing in it. If you can’t even see the possibility, you play blindly with no purpose. A game plan proves 2 things, it will either work or not. By process of elimination you’ll eventually find the best way to beat someone. No matter how tough, you must never stop believing.

    Lin can also teach the league a thing or two if he’s given a chance. Linsanity 3.0 is coming and no one can stop it. In 2 years Lin will be shooting 40% 3s or higher because Lin is too smart not to realize that if Curry can do it, so can he. With Lin’s size, speed and quickness, all he needs to do is keep working hard and he’ll get there.

  • CJSHYY
  • grover chang

    Awesome to see like Jlin a heart to help others and I’m sure this took a lot of time, energy, and work. Will definitely check out your site.

  • grover chang

    Hornets have no rim protector. I could only hope Hansbrough plays to deter some drives to the rim and rebounds to minimize 2nd chance points. Will have to clear the schedule for that game. Hard to see GSW losing to anyone.

  • Acbc

    It always starts with one. Lin is an inspiration by always being the one to make the difference. It’s up to every…ONE to also make a difference.
    Thanks for making a difference.

  • grover chang

    How does Dell Curry broadcast that day? His role as a father vs his job as Hornet analyst makes broadcasting awkward. How does he comment on Lin when he plays his own son?

  • Rick Johnson
  • Rick Johnson

    Didn’t watch but let me guess. Selfish hero ball iso shooting.

  • LinMad

    really cool

  • Acbc

    Lol, don’t even need to look to know.

  • JoeTeam

    I like it – the greatest players never lose, they just run out of time. That actually is the spirit if the entrep … as long as you are alive, you can pull off a Colonel Sanders! Love the rest of what you wrote too …

  • LinMad

    6-22 Kobe

  • JoeTeam

    Lin at >40% is fine. Steph is only at 44% today as they said, and so is Iggy. I always cringe when Iggy shoots the 3, but man has he been clutch lately.

  • Acbc

    I always lmao whenever I see BS like this. All I can think of is Captain Ray Holt on Brooklyn 99.

  • Rick Johnson

    Good one

  • JoeTeam

    You can always just ask him when you see him in MSG, or just fly down to CHA it’s so close. He is such a good guy – he does kids stuff around the Bay Area in the summers. People here link all the evens, I dunno how they keep up with the info.

  • JoeTeam

    heh heh, thanks for calling me a friend. I just know you are such a genuine fan, sharing with us pics and stories of your kids with JLin. I’m more recluse.

    The good word is I’ve had some very nice GSW experiences, even got JLin to sign my tickets for my son, after warmups. This was earlier when Lin was with the Rox. These days GSW is so explosive tix are about 8x more than those old days, and people vie for every ticket. So, I don’t think I’ll be able to see JLin court side anymore until GSW cools off or unless I move 🙂

    Please keep coming here sometimes, we here would love it. Psalm and Mods have made nice enclave. The allow a certain amount of baiting, but clamp down pretty fast if people get to trolling.

    Hope to talk more with you. If you were on the west coast, I’d love to help you with your non-profit. Best for now … and one question … aren’t your kids just in love the Steph Curry and his swagger style too? To me, JLin is the only other guard in the league with the Steph swagger, ability to lead the team. While Steph is tops, Steph has not had a Linsanity all to himself. 15-0 and counting is pretty good, but Steph did not do it like JLin did – he really needed the entire team and system, which is fine too. JLin did it alone against all odds – all he had was the green light from MDA.

  • Acbc

    Lol, great find.

  • JoeTeam

    Awesome.

    Check out this organization for positive linkage as you grow your program:

    http://www.positivecoach.org

  • JoeTeam

    This guy looks genuinely tough. The other guy …

  • John Focker

    If Lin can do a decent job locking down Curry, it will completely obliterate the malicious (not to mention false) narrative put forth by the Rox about Lin being bad at D. Someone who can stop Curry is nothing but ELITE defender, and not the knee-breaking kind.

  • JoeTeam

    But I think this year, that narrative has been put to bed. Lin probably can contain Steph from getting his ankle breakers to open up space, but everyone has problems stopping Curry’s fast release. The trick for Lin is he has to have team D because GSW is playing very good team offense.

    Even though I want to see Lin inspire his team to stop the streak, I think CHA are not strong enough as a team to do it. Hope so, that game will be amazing as psalm has calculated that is 19-0 point, and that’s only 4 games away.

  • John Focker

    Lin was able to lead the sorry Djangos and defeat fully staffed GSW last year. GSW has gotten better since, but Hornets are leaps and bounds better than last years’ Lakers, and not to mention a real coach.

    Unlikely, but it can realistically happen, if Hornets play as a team and move the ball the way they did in Shanghai.

  • blubell

    Congrats! Thank you for all you do and your never ending support for Jeremy 🙂

  • Acbc

    Lol, ONLY 44%. Just think about that comment for a second and you’ll realize how quickly our mind adapts to what is “known to be possible.” 44% shooting period is pretty good already.

    In tennis, we’ve seen how one great player can drag a whole nation of players to greatness. Borg produced 2 other slam winners Villander and Edberg, Russian ladies had sharapova, the Belgiums had Clyster and Henin. The rest of the team watches Curry shoot 3 like its nothing and they learn to believe it’s also possible for them as well.

    The power of self belief is what drives humans to advance as a specie. Great empires die off because they’ve lost that will. When negativity settles in, it destroys will and self belief. We must not ever lose that self belief.

  • Steph the MVP

    Isn’t Curry the MVP?
    Oh sure you will have many fans signing up. You always have another supporter whose name is different from yours but identity is the same. LOL acbc

  • Acbc

    Only a sick mind can think sick thoughts. When someone accuse others of unseen crimes committed, then it actually just exposes that person’s own willingness to committing that crime.

    Hypothetically of course.

  • Steppen03

    No, I don’t want anybody to spoil this Perfect season of the GS Warriors… Not even from the Hornets =).
    I’m Satisfied when Lin-led Hornets beat down the next 4 games – it’ll be great wins over the Wiz, Cavs, and Bucks. Blow by everyone except GS – And that’s all I’m asking (… EC Top 2 …)

  • Steppen03

    Why are we even discussing about the GS game when it’s NOT even that important. It’s just ONE game. I don’t mind losing to GS – they’re Champions. Better think about how to beat Wiz, Cavs, Bucks and then Heat, Raptors – and then go on some mini-runs, then grab Seed 2 in EC. Now, that’ll be More of an accomplishment!

  • Steppen03

    Honestly, nobody gonna give a Hoot about who can beat GS in a game… One game. End of the day, GS is still the Better team, the Best team in the league. More important is: Play hard and win as much as possible – And be Top 2 in EC – That’ll SHUT everybody up.

  • LAJane

    Not her husband. Her brother.

  • Steppen03

    Yes, big news for a day and gone the next. Certainly, I want the Hornets to have the structure and consistency first. I want us to Not just win “one” big game but go on a real tear like 5-1, then 10-3, then 10-2, and before you know it – we’re 65 wins. I want the Hornets in EC Finals. Now, that will be a Bigger Statement, don’t you think… =)

    Matchups:
    JL7 >> Harden, Irving, Lowry, Lillard, Wall, R. Jackson, Dragic, Bledsoe, I. Thomas Jr., D.Will, MCW, – a long list…

  • Steppen03

    I disagree. Linsanity had Novak, Tyson, Shump, Fields. Give credits to those guys too – they were part of the journey ? No one can do it alone – No even Mr. Legend, MJ or The Great, Magic Johnson, or The Masters – Bird, Lebron, Kobe…

  • Steppen03

    Steph Curry’s Run (2013-14 season to present) is Much, Much Bigger than Linsanity. NY overhyped Linsanity. In the end, Both are Awesome! Can’t compare apples to oranges.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I think he will eventually comes out and surprises lots of people. The other night against the 76ers and started firing a 3 after getting his 2. That’s what Clifford wants, isn’t it. Just keep chucking and shooting yourself into the game. I believe Hansbrough can shoot 3s, 2s and makes his layups consistently rather than dunking or making offensive fouls. In the Hornets, you will eventually get your call to breakout because there isn’t any dominant rim protector and players like Zeller, Hairston have been banged around so much.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    You know Clifford really tries hard to give him the minutes by putting him under different hats for the game. Lin has played SG, SF, defensive specialist like Hairston and Zeller for the team. His minutes might vary but his average minutes fortunately still around 22 minutes. Hopefully, next season Hornets won’t have Jeremy Lin and Clifford to be kicked around any more.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    If there is anything that Clifford wants to experiment, the combo guard Lin will be the first to come into his mind.

  • james brown

    i salute your idea of bringing sports into the values of kids. I do believe that having a role model in Jeremy Lin will encourage these youngster to strive even when the chips are down,persevere when everything seems not falling in place. This is a great task that can only done with the passion that you have and compassion to bridge HOPE and LOVE to these kids.

  • Rzo Vlade

    this team need to lose today

    piston
    knicks
    magic

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Curry is the classy player that Harden would never be. I really want to puke when I saw all that media hype for Harden to be the MVP in the off season. See what is Harden doing now. I really don’t want to call anybody a fool or moron but it’s pretty close if you look back at what the media have been doing and compare to what you are seeing now.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I’m not sure that I want Lin to start like that. Lin’s PER plunged and I want to see Lin doing well and play his game. Now he’s made to wear many hats while none of them are what he really wants to wear.

    Hairston’s PER was in single digit after he started for so many games. No way I want to see Lin play like that.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The only consistency about Jeremy is the inconsistent situations that he had to deal with and the roles he’s asked to play for this team. For other players, it would be nightmare for a player days in days out to go out and play to fit in Cliffords’ game plans as what Lin had been asked to.

  • Michael

    They win dynasties. Byron is wise.

  • gum

    I think Jeremy will be very happy to read or hear about it. Wishing you much on going success with this program.

  • Spot

    Pistons vs Milwaukee… W
    Magic vs Cavs …. L
    Knicks vs Heat…. LL

    Tough schedule is coming. Let’s see if Clifford is a good coach now.

  • Spot

    Curry is a basketball player;
    Harden is just one of the characters NBA tries to promote.

  • Rzo Vlade

    so who gets the lose and win…….kinda confusing what you just wrote

  • Spot

    Pistons Cavs and Heat in my opinion.

    But I think Sacramento will beat Charlotte too. Cousins/Jefferson is a bad matchup

  • JoeTeam

    Lin elevated their game from to big time. Yep, I know that TChandler was top D already. Steph … his teammates are already tops. He doesn’t really need to make his fellow starters great. I may be able to …

  • JoeTeam

    ok, I can go with that. GSW are favored for 65 games left – only SAS are slated to win 2 against them. Could be a one-of year.

  • JoeTeam

    I want to see Lin do something unique, but I think GSW are too tough if they have an on night. An off night, maybe …

  • JoeTeam

    yep, getting spoiled. That’s why I need to focus on other things like life … lol.

  • gum

    My husband told me someone like you brings faith in humanity!

  • Acbc

    Now you are just talking from both sides of your mouth. Look, I get that you love the GSW. This is a Lin site and we are discussing a game coming up that some have suggested Hornets don’t bother showing up because Curry is unguard-able. That’s not how sports should be played. Great feats needs great challenges. If every team folds like a cheap deck of cards for GSWs and just don’t show up, everyone loses.

    It must come first with believing that Hornets can win. Then find a way to make it happen. Set a game plan and follow through. If it fails, try something else. The key word is try and believe in it. That’s why we are discussing it. You on the other hand just don’t want Lin to win that game and that’s why you don’t even want to think of any possibility for Lin to win.

  • Acbc

    That’s why we shouldn’t worry too much about Lin starting with no touches. I believe that the narratives that Lin is a poor defender needs to be put to bed because experts love to use that as a excuse to say he’s better coming off bench. I WANT LIN TO STOP THE MOST FEAR PLAYER PLAYING THE GAME TODAY. I WANT LIN TO GIVE CURRY THE TONY PARKER TREATMENT.

    If Lin can defend Curry then the experts can’t say Lin’s only scoring and defending bench players. I firmly believe Lin starting is a good thing.

  • Spot

    Well done Rose!

    Tanti saluti dall’Italia 😉

  • Rzo Vlade

    While players tried to keep details of the meeting private, two themes emerged, three people told USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation. Harden’s play and aloofness have frustrated teammates, and McHale took the brunt of the blame for the team’s play

  • Rick Johnson

    He better be careful. That Kardashian curse is pretty powerful stuff. Lakers are just already so bad it’s not noticeable like on the Rockets. http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/11/03/kobe-bryant-teasing-dangelo-russell-dating-kendall-jenner/

  • webattorney

    GSW win streak is even making a non NBA follower like me watch GSW games. It would have been so great to watch Lin play in place of Shaun Livingston.

  • NONONO

    Hornets could beat Cavs and Heat at home if Cliff let Lin play PG for +25 mins and never let Brain pair with Lin as back court!

  • 1mtoldman

    brain is brian and what you propose is not happening. lin is not even playing pg half of his minutes (carreer to date never did not play point guard less than 88% of the time).

    this to me is the most significant and dramatic change in lins circumstance here in charlotte.

  • NONONO

    ” He’s made to be the painkiller, the quick fix and the player with the most inconsistent role in the team.” Well said.

  • 1mtoldman

    the primary concern regarding lin this season thus far would seem on deeper investigation to be his abysmal 3 point and beyond that long range shooting generally.

    he is getting 6th man minutes and is shooting well enuf (nearly making half) on his 2 point shooting overall; but his 3 point shooting is running 286. kobe/monta ellis/harden/rubio/d.rose range.

    further his long range 2pt shooting (beyond 16 ft) tho declining year over year already has fallen off the table this year thus far at 059 % thats right: 059% .

    and its not like hes not taking any shots in that range, he’s taking roughly the same % of shots there as historically and combined with taking more 3 pt shots (%wise) than ever– overall long range shots accounting now for almost half his shots.

    this is particularly surprising in that in the 8 game pre-season; lin was shooting almost 50% from three and similarly well from long range two.

    it could be argued that his use or misuse depending on how one preceives it once the regular season began and continuing to now (fans here in general seem to be falling on the side of seeing lin as being treated well here but i wont get into that) could be directly related to this state of inefficent long range shooting.

    but regardless the signifcant point of attention at the moment in terms of what is not working for lin is his dramatic (to date again, but do what has been done again 6 times and the season is over) decline in his shot beyond 16 feet.

  • NONONO

    I hope the only chances Cliff used Brian to play PG to pair with Lin as SG is when the team had big lead vs weak teams. It seems Cliff wants to train Brian with the cost of Lin. The experiments seems so bad so far.

  • NONONO

    I am not concerned about his fg% and 3pt%. He would be fine when he was in charge. I think he usually did bad when Brain was PG or when Kemba was starting ISOs.

  • David Kim

    I agree with you.. I still don’t understand why coach had to put Roberts as PG not Lin..

  • NONONO

    I think Cliff know how good Li is when he is in charge. But he wants to train Brain’s PG and Lin’s SG skills when the team has big lead.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY

    I don’t get it either.

  • Acbc

    Let’s not look at a gift horse in the mouth and complain it’s not “American Pharaoh”. Lin’s getting minutes, starting role, finishing games, coaches support, fans support, owner support, NBA support, media support.

    It took 3 years to turn Lin into a back up. It’s going to take time to reverse that injustice.

  • KHuang

    NY Post writing hate article after hate article about Lin.

    The lastest crap they wrote is that Lin “didn’t excel in practice” unlike Porzingis.

    It’s bad journalism for the NY Post to be flaming one minimum wage Asian player who didn’t even spend an entire season with the Knicks and shuffled in and out of the D League when there were so many more higher paid and longer tenured nonAsian Knicks who had a far worse record with the Knicks than Lin did.

    Such hate articles are typical for Lin.

  • KHuang

    I’m sure Lin will put up positive minutes with the bench, no matter who the opponent is.

  • KHuang

    I wanna see Kemba Walker shut down Jimmy Walker and Kevin Martin.

  • Chopz

    If NY loves Porzingis so much, they should just talk about him, but apparently he’s not popular enough because they have to include lin to get more attention. They can hate all they want but you can never kill the Legend of Linsanity. He will always be beloved by the true knick fans, he will always be known as the “one who got away”.

  • Rzo Vlade

    lol so practice is better than the actual games no wonder all these yrs knicks are practice team

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    when he wasn’t comfortable on the court.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He has doubts after Lin’s ability as PG because of his TOs.

  • Rzo Vlade

    lol guy is lottery pick he should do well 7’3 no4 draft against undrafted PG out of harvard and asian…….LOL knicks are garbage

  • CJSHYY

    I think Porzingis plays well now but it’s just not Linsanity. No matter what….

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    A good coach will make his game plan for a tough opponent differently.

  • Chopz

    Speaking of practice, let’s refresh our memory with the man himself who knows all about practice, Allen Iverson:

    We talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Coach Clifford typically won’t put Kemba Walker on these roles. He would put Lin on them instead.

  • Acbc

    What is a really glaring weakness is the ast. If this team wants to become a threat in the playoffs, they need to pass the ball a lot more. Kemba and Batum must not ISO so much.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Lin at the end gets bad stats and his next contract will hardly be a good one though.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Sneaky Snaky.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I feel sorry for BS that he couldn’t find any easy one to blame this season.

  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Enjoy witnessing Lakers making history again when Lin’s gone.
    Next one up, how about the Rox.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It would be a great achievement by itself if the Hornets can win either one of these games.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    BS would try to be serious when saying that again.

  • Chopz

    He can play well all he wants, be rookie of the year and people will love him, but they will still love Jeremy Lin. It’s like asking the Knick fans to forget their first love. Not gonna happen.

  • NONONO

    Don’t be upset. Lin will give them a lesson when they meet next time. (Only if Cliff let him take charge.) Hornets could have beat Knicks last time if Cliff did not take ball away from Lin in the final quarter.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! They really no need to talk about Lin here as he’s not even in the team. smh!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Because Hairston could only be effective for short minutes and then it would be all the way downhill. He’s used like the lamb to be sacrificed for a win.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    To prepare for the next season, postseason, etc.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    He’s just trying to do his to win more games.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Then Lin will be put back to run the lethal 2nd team again. Spencer Hawes has improved as most of us would expect that he would after playing with Lin for some games.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so… Lin run 2nd unit it’s better than Roberts…

  • NONONO

    Here is the bast lineups for Hormets after vs Spur blowout game loss (The lineup need to play at 3 games for the stats)

  • Kwok Wai Lai
  • takemeback2reaganyears

    NY Post have been very pro-Lin, they probably have 1 negative in every 9 positives.

  • CJSHYY

    Depends on who wrote the article.

  • TTNN

    In Linsanity movie, D’antoni said himself that Lin didn’t even get chance to get into practice…… He was picked up mid season and that was a short season with super tight game schedule, and they don’t even have much practice either….

  • JJ Hui

    Those cheap greedy low writers used Jeremy Lin for clicks, they like to bash Lin and at the same time love to collect the $$$ because of Lin!

  • wu kong

    On a non JLin related note.. but a funny and almost perfect use of the internet… https://twitter.com/monkeyes2/status/668849195948843008

  • noob

    My theory is that Lin has really stepped it up on the defensive end and it is coming at the expense of his offense. He only has so much energy to expend

  • wu kong

    waiting in NBA to update Charlotte numbers. right now only updated through 10 games…

  • Chopz

    Here’s part 2 of Asian Guys talk nba with jlin:

    https://youtu.be/46neNgxv_RQ

  • DX

    Best? It shows 12 last week.

  • sws94

    Law of averages. He’ll have a hot spell and those numbers will come up.

  • sws94

    Don’t think it is TOs. Batum has more. I think it is sometimes Lin doesn’t advance the ball confidently when he is TO when back court pressure or traps are applied if he has any doubts at all.

  • NONONO

    vs Kings. We will seen how Lin defends Rondo. Rondo has been played well recently. Lin 6’3″/2mil vs Rondo 6’1″/1.2mil. Good match.

  • CJSHYY

    Cliff probably will ask Lin to defend SG not PG.

  • NONONO

    Either Walker or Brain cannot guard Rondo. Batum and Lamb, nope!

  • DX

    It’s hard to defend in a good PnR team.

  • NONONO

    The following comparison doesn’t look good for Lin. But let’s see what head to head looks like tonight. I bet on Lin.
    https://www.fantasysp.com/start/nba/18128/jeremy-lin-or-rajon-rondo

  • sws94

    AI doesn’t get it.

  • sws94

    It’s a Lin vs. Kemba matchup, not Lin vs. Rondo. In Charlotte games, Lin is a how do you deal with this guy coming off the bench issue, not whoever is starting in the game matching up. It’s who do you put on him if he starts heating up.

  • LinJa

    Rondo assist avg is pretty crazy. Lin needs to get 5apg. I think people worry more bout his ppg. Lin might be more focused on apg. So he looks selfless.

  • takemeback2reaganyears

    Players usage between those two are miles different. Rondo, their starter, has the ball and run the offense 100%.

  • DX

    Understand what you mean. Lin mostly come from bench this game. There won’t be much time vs. Rondo even Lin plays PG as well. I only hope Lin can get enough PT and have a good game.

  • NONONO

    Rondo might be only G who could stop Lin during Linsanity. I did not pay any attention when they met since then. I really like to see what it would be like tonight.

  • DX

    It seems PJ will back on the starter line.

  • CJSHYY

    No news yet but I think so.

  • NONONO

    I hope Hornets would not have a blowout game (either + or – ) by the end of 3rd quarter.

  • DX

    Actually, it’s OK. At least, Cody can play with 2nd unit, Can you image if PJ plays with 2nd unit?

  • CJSHYY

    I guess not bc King played well now.

  • CJSHYY

    I am OK w that bc Lin plays better when he’s PG not SG.

  • DX

    Only if starters dig a big hole.

  • DX

    Yes, that’s another major reason. But hope Lin can get at least 25 mins.

  • CJSHYY

    I think he will just not sure Hornets can win or not.

  • DX

    I think Hornets has the big chance.

  • new game thread
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g14-sac-cha-game-thread/

    With PJ Hairston and Cody Zeller back,:
    1. Would Jeremy Lin go back to energize the 2nd unit?
    2. Or will Coach Clifford continue to experiment how to utilize Jeremy Lin to help starters build a lead.. but at the same time conserve his energy to power the 2nd unit that seemed unable to sustain great ball movement without his playmaking?

    With 3 consecutive games of averaging 28min/game, Coach Clifford seemed to know that inserting Jeremy Lin in the starters or bench unit would greatly facilitate ball movement and spacing necessary to get open shots and build lead.

    But managing his minutes while playing great defense and helping with rebounding is no easy task; it’s very taxing to the legs and stamina. That’s why great offensive players like Harden and Kobe don’t always play defense to conserve their energy, too much to the detriment of their teams.

    Let’s go, JLin! Be your aggressive self & just play your game on matter what happens

  • Sundown

    Lin does a great job connecting with fans.

  • Acbc

    And where are these guys now? Novak, Shump, Fields are all bench guys again. Lin had very little to work with but he made them great. Are you saying the rest of the GSWs are bench players?

    Look I get that you’re a homer, but you are at the wrong home. If Lin had the same support Curry had, I’d bet he would have won a title already with the Knicks or Houston. You’re comparing oranges to lemons.

  • rosebud68

    Grazie Mille

  • rosebud68

    Thanks so much. If we were in the west coast I would’ve been grateful for the help. People have been coming forward here in ny and the Fox segment helped raise awareness. Of course my boys like Curry. Who doesn’t. Ha ha. But strangely my 12 year old tend to gravitate towards underdog players and teams ; no surprise he is such a Lin fan 🙂 do you live in San Fran? If so, lucky for you! Looks like your home team is on its way to an other championship.

  • rosebud68

    Nice of you to say so, psalm. Take care 🙂

  • rosebud68

    Thank you so much 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    Rose: If your 12 yr old likes underdogs, he will go far in life because he will strive to overcome and win. So many gifted people don’t try.

    I live in the Bay Area, on the east side. Grew up when you could roam Monterrey to Napa, SF to Sacramento all on day trips. If you look at all the money that has gone into building computers, networks, and now web and web apps + mobile … a region really changes and now it’s big money and crowds. It’s good for a region to have that kind of explosive growth, but I miss the lazy CA afternoons, country roads, etc. I guess I’m nostalgic for the days of the big rock bands by the Bay. You know …