G13 Brooklyn Nets (4-8) Needs Jeremy Lin against Portland Blazers (7-7)

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1 Dec 19:30
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With the Nets losing the last 3 games in a row, they desperately need Jeremy Lin to come back to give them a boost to start winning again. But Coach Atkinson did not set a predetermined date of Jeremy’s return and relies on the performance team to ensure Jeremy Lin does not come back too early to have recurring hamstring issues throughout the season.

The last 3 games have exposed the Nets tendency to frequently turn the ball over too much due to lack of experienced Point Guards.

The Nets and the Blazers share similar offensive abilities in Points-per-game with the 10th ranking Blazers at 106.7 and the 11th ranked Nets not far behind at 106.3

But there are only 2 worse teams defensively to allow more Points per game than the Nets at 105.7 and thankfully Portland Blazers is one of them at 106.9. It helps to know they have lost 3 straight games against the Bulls, Rockets and the Pelicans. Both teams will be hungry to get back on the winning track soon.

KEY OF THE GAME: Can the Nets play tough defense in the rebounding department and not allowing wide-open shots? Can Jeremy Lin come back to steady the ship and cut down on the recent sloppy turnovers? We can only hope for the best.

Let’s hope and pray JLin will heal quickly to help the Nets get back on the winning track, and most importantly finish the game healthy!

Let’s go, JLin and the Nets! 

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  • Barry Allen

    First

    GO LIN!

  • psalm234

    ShaqTin a Fool
    Javale McGee & Spencer Hawes made an appearance

  • psalm234

    nice JLin meme

    @NBAMemes
    Jeremy Lin’s new gig.
    https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/799009473213976582

  • psalm234

    Important insights from Lin on KA in the latest Nets video

    @JLin7 on choosing #Nets & his relationship with coach Kenny Atkinson.

    Full video: Kenny Atkinson gives Nets hope
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/799943582857560065
    https://youtu.be/VK21M3p8jKs

  • aggressiveplayer

    Don’t think Lin will be back vs Portland. Probably back vs Celtics but it sucks because he sort of needs to rebuild chemistry with his team again

  • Barry Allen

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/11/19/13684998/nets-missing-jeremy-lin-with-no-date-for-return

    “Watched .@JLin7 stretch & go through rehab exercises for hammy after shootaround. Had to leave as he was beginning to shoot. Getting closer.”

    “But since .@JLin7 is not required to talk to media again until he practices fully, that tells you he’s not part of team practices.”

    “It’s starting to sound like we’re another week –or two– away. Hamstrings are indeed tough to predict and the Nets, starting a long rebuilding process, are not going to risk long-term damage or Lin playing, then sitting, then playing again. It’s not worth it.

    The problems are not just about the loss of the Nets starting point guard and all that means day in, day out. It also is going to delay development of on-court continuity and chemistry. Lin had only played four and a half games before being injured. It’s almost back to square one when he returns.

    In the meantime, Lin has become sort of an assistant point guard coach, with clipboard, natty suit and matching eyeglasses. It’s frustrating to him as well, obviously.

    So, for the moment, we like he have to hang in there.”

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Repost from last thread:

    As I went to see two games on 28 Oct (vs Pacers) and 12 Nov (vs Suns), I witnessed the genuine and unique relationship between JLin and KA. JLin basically could do a lot more than just a starting point in this team, he was even allowed to “coach” his teammates.

    As I met up with number of JLin fans who went to many JLin games with different teams plus other team games in my US trip (just got back this morning), they confirmed to my observations that it was not a norm for any player even star/franchise player could talk to their coach about their play in games and/or called a player (SKil) back to the sideline (a midcourt) and told him what to do when he was at the bench because of injury.

    I like what I witnessed. I have no issue of how this team is being run. We fans know little what is going on but what I have seen, I would like JLin to stay in this team as long as SM, KA are with this organization.

    I also like that JLin’s health is being taken care of. Yes we fans want him to return to court yesterday. I know many JLin fans like Hornets but I don’t. I don’t like how he was used. I dislike Hornets in many fronts. One major issue was often they disregarded of JLin’s health. We know JLin would like to be back and play even though he maybe even 50% or less. I’m glad that Nets doesn’t allow him to play until he is 100%….

    I maybe minority of most JLin fans but I like all of his teammates. I have very little concern about JLin unable to mesh with his teammates when he is out. If you have a chance to watch his interaction with his teammates (on and off court), plus the way he studied the games while he sat at the bench (have you ever seen any player did that in your time to watch games?) and continued his “coaching”/teaching of his teammates, you won’t have any concern.

    One last piece I’m going to say is I have no reservation at all for JLin to play for Nets. This is so different than last 4 seasons. Even last season I had major concern during preseason games. Then My disliked of Clifford and Hornets grew soon after MKG hurt…. Consequently I had very little desire to watch games. I’m totally relaxed this season. I even want to watch Nets games even when JLin is out…..

  • aggressiveplayer

    I didn’t like the way the Hornets used Lin either, but that’s what he signed into. Lin wasn’t really in a position to just take up a starting role, at least not with Kemba and Batum there. Other than that, I’d say the Hornets treated him well.

    The Nets are in my opinion, a top tier organization. We just don’t have the talent at the moment, but I have never seen an organization pay this much attention to the details.

  • Spot

    Me too Melody! Let’s enjoy a great season. Keep having faith!

  • HVJoy

    I think you speak for many Lin fans (yours truly included) when you said,
    “I’m glad that Nets doesn’t allow him to play until he is 100%…” and
    “I even want to watch Nets games even when JLin is out.”

    Thank you for your “witness report”. Hope you enjoyed your journey in US and rest well back home.

  • Rick James

    Poor Javale McGee, Shaq has been picking on him constantly for the last 7 years. The new season just started and again it’s back to javale McGee. It’s funny, most people wouldn’t even know who McGee is if not for shaq.

  • kauaiblue

    Thanks! And totally agree about hornets…

  • james brown

    hornets during that season CAN make Jlin as a starter but unfortunately, they didn’t and has no intention, simply because Jeremy was not on their long term plan and also don’t want to rock the boat. I understand it on its business sense, but as a pure basketball team spirit, i don’t.

  • KHuang

    McGee brought it on himself.

    If he had better fundamentals, he would not be on that show!

  • spiderman

    Clifford did not seem to care about all those malicious fouls on Lin. Not someone you’d want to go to battle with

  • kauaiblue

    Not at all… clifford was a sackless yes man…

  • Dorothy

    I disagreed “Hornets treated him well.” Clifford did not have the backbone to play his best players. He bowed to the politics which I can understand. The only thing he did ok was occasionally said few things good about Lin, but I will always remember he said Lin was, is and will be always a backup. I can not wait for a healthy Lin leading this “untalented” team to spank Clifford, Cho and Jordan’s superstar Kemba.

  • kauaiblue

    It took an amateur video from a fan to change it… i lost respect for clifford, jordan, and the nba for not backing our boy up… that one clip where jeremy was hacked by aldridge and no team member came to help sickened me… dwight howard was standing 2 feet away and ignored jeremy kneeling on the ground…

  • kauaiblue

    Agree agree agree, dorothy

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It all depends on whether Lin is truly 100% now or is being kept out because they are overly cautious..

    No one really knows the answer to that and Lin doesn’t decide when he can play, Marks makes those decision, just like Lopez does not decide whether he takes a rest, Marks does…Lopez is on record stating he doesn’t like it but will accept the wishes of the front office.

    From my understanding, Lin’s injury takes about 2 weeks on average before players gets back on the court….But because it’s the Nets, a player may come back after 4 weeks but not because the player is not 100%.

    If you look at the way Marks had been dealing with Lopez who hasn’t had any injuries for more than a year, one can see that Lin is simply being kept out because of their personal method of dealing with injured players coming back….

  • YellowClaw

    That’s kind of annoying
    Lin is known for his durability and he’s their 2nd best player
    He is in his physical prime

  • CJSHYY
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    To be fair to Nets, we really do not know what is really going on with Lin injury since they are more secretive than the C.I.A, but I do get the sense we will see Lin miss quite a few games this year because of their new model of extreme cautiousness.

    We can see that cautiousness in massive display on Brook Lopez, which I really don’t agree with.

    Lopez has been averaging 32mpg, but this year, he’s averaging about 27mpg and is also forced to sit on back-to-back games…That has got to annoying as a player when you are told when you will play and he has nothing to do with your body.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I don’t remember him saying he is and always will be a backup. Do you have a source?

    And what do you mean Clifford did not have the backbone to play his best players? It really depends on the matchup and circumstances and politics.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Yes but you can’t just start Lin over Kemba or Batum. You can’t start over Kemba for political reasons, and you can’t start over Batum because Lin is undersized for an SG.

    Clifford also isn’t the type of coach to adventurously try new things. He sticks to what he’s comfortable with.

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  • DX

    So what schedule?

  • YESYESYES

    I would still try to enjoy the Nets games until Lin comes back someday.

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  • Dorothy

    You think PJ Hairston, who was chosen to be starter over Lin after MKG went down, was one of the best players on Hornets last year? He was almost out of NBA this summer after no team signed him until Sept 30 byt Rockets, then waived by Rockets Oct 24. Now plays for Rockets D-League.

    The famous quote by Clifford that Lin was, is and will not be a NBA starter got so many Lin fan upset. I will ask the source for you.

  • Dorothy

    Can someone please find the famous quote by Clifford that he was, is and will not be a starter in NBA? I tried to google it but can not find it. Thanks in advance.
    Some people on this board are not aware Clifford made that comment publicly and asking for source.

  • Dorothy

    I meant Clifford said Lin was, is and will not be a starter.

  • grover chang

    Uh? How could you progress on “schedule” with no “timetable.” 🤔

  • BobbyH

    I don’t recall him saying that. I only remember that he said Lin “will be a backup PG” in the context of playing for Hornet.

  • YESYESYES

    Clifford said it right after Lin led Hornets beat L. James’ Cavs.

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  • sws94

    That’s exactly what he said. And his 5 minutes of what type of player Lin is shows that he knew what Lin can bring to a team. On Charlotte, he had a role off the bench. But Cliff never said that he should be limited to just playing off the bench overall as an NBA player.

  • Dorothy

    Clifford did. I clearly remember people here were so upset saying Lin was a starter at Knicks and first year of Rockets…etc I will find the source if no one has it handy.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I was aware that Cliff had stated Lin was not going to start on his Hornets team because he was signed to be a bench guy, but I wasn’t aware that he had stated that Lin was not an NBA starter.

  • takeme2cruz

    He said lin has always been a backup in the league before and he will be a backup here now.

  • sws94

    He didn’t say Lin was not an NBA starter. He was talking about Lin’s role on the Hornets only. I mean, the guy just answered as a Hornet questions about Lin for 5 minutes and clearly said Lin is a starting caliber NBA point guard. Doesn’t that show how he feels about Lin?

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    That’s what I can recall..the fact that he didn’t want to start Lin on his team, eventhough I thought Lin should had started ahead of Hairston.

  • aggressiveplayer

    You don’t understand.. MKG was playing the SF role and PJ Hairston was filling the SF role for him. You can’t just start anyone at any position unless you’re playing serious small ball. Lin plays SG and PG role.

  • aggressiveplayer

    But how would Lin play the SF role unless we had two SGs in the starting lineup which is some serious small ball?

  • I am The Jason

    Hairston job was to guard the other teams wing player. That is why he started. Lin would have had a hard time guarding other small forwards. Besides, Lin was better suited leading the 2nd unit on the Hornets.

  • sws94

    Stopgap for MKG and didn’t finish games. That was the role of PJ.

  • sws94

    Hornets brought back joy to Lin’s game. I don’t agree with how Clifford preferred Batum over him in the playoffs, which I think was a bad strategy and lost them the series, but overall he was a positive for Lin. Lin attributes Clifford to improving his defense. And his teammates were terrific, especially Marvin, and Lin really liked that group of players. The announcers also treated Lin pretty well, especially Dell Curry.

  • sws94

    Lopez tends to hit early 3s so it’s no fluke. Lopez can make 3s. Portland looks like a tough offensive team. Nets are playing hard. Whitehead’s D looks good, though his inexperience shows.

  • sws94

    Bogs needs to score but I don’t like his iso tendencies. He needs to play within the system some more.

  • Epie

    Foye time 😛

  • aggressiveplayer

    Please no.. I’d rather have Whitehead

  • aggressiveplayer

    Agreed on this. He’s working on his finishing at least.

  • Win

    Pls win this one Nets…

  • CJSHYY

    So far so good. But Net’s problem is not in 1st half but 2nd half…. hope they can have the same good game in 2nd half today.

  • Epie

    Nets must win the first half by 20pt to make up for the 2nd half.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope…..

  • Epie

    Foye hurt

  • Win

    lol.

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  • BobbyH

    Where is the defense?

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    Brookie is 6 for 6, 2 of 2 from the 3!

  • Click Click

    This game is crazy. Both teams just running and gunning. If only Nets could play some defense…

  • Joe what do you know

    I think it is safe to say Brook is one of top 3 offensive Center in this league… He just knows how to get buckets.

  • sport

    Not liking this lineup or what I’m seeing too. RHJ made 1-2 lucky baskets but then he just kept going to the rim and wasting possessions without the skills to do it. Also Brook Lopez isn’t features enough, everyone’s just going for their own iso points.

  • Joe what do you know

    He lacks refinement in the finishing move department. But I think his aggressive attack of the basket is the right thing to do.

  • sws94

    RHJ is showing flashes. He has to learn how to get in control of his athletic abilities.

  • sport

    Don’t like seeing Foye as starting PG he’s too short and just not skilled enough. You’d think that with McCullough’s skills he would be betting more minutes but nope.

  • guest

    So much for the “D” that Atkinson focused on for preseason and beginning of the season. Should have won the games by playing their stars when he could.

  • Win

    Pretty much ever single Nets will go over. $ bets. 🙂

  • sport

    Even when Lin’s out, Lopez just doesn’t get more plays. He’s the star give him more plays! I’d rather him take it in the post or 3s then seeing guys like RHJ or Foye dribbling aimlessly or forcing things and wasting a possession. Also McCullough should be starting he’s one of the most athletic young guys they have.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Good defense takes a long time to build…..

  • guest

    I still feel the lack of playing time that Lin had in the beginning caused the injury. His body was not in game shape because of the style they focused on, but come game time and desire to Win, Atkinson let Lin play his game. He needs to let Lin play his game all the time with cautious minute restrictions and not be afraid to use him extra minutes for important conference games.

  • guest

    That’s why I’m more bummed that Atkinson didn’t allow Lin and Lopez to play extra minutes for conference games, that were winnable.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think they’re building up Lopez. He should play more and more as the season goes along. As for Lin, he won’t play if the games gets too far out of reach. No point to since it would increase chance for injury and also very tiring.

  • guest

    I really love the fact Atkinson is expanding Lopez’s game. But is rotations have still been questionable. We need Lin, but some of these games that were competitive still comes with coaching and not adjusting.

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  • YESYESYES

    Nets needs to focus on defense, it is so bad

  • YESYESYES

    RHJ is forcing so much

  • sport

    Yet Lopez doesn’t get enough plays tailored for him or enough minutes.

  • Epie

    Foye comes in, immediate TO and again gives 3pt, same pattern over and over. now it’s 17pt game.

  • sport

    Foye should not be the starting PG along Lopez. KA haven’t played McCullough at all this game. He can totally contribute with his height and athleticism.

  • guest

    Lin the “General” on defense is sorely missed. Testament to how valuable an on court leader is needed in the NBA. There doesn’t seem to be much communication on the defensive side.

  • Win

    The Nets have played 12 games and only 2 games that the opponents has scored less than 100 pts. That pretty much sum it up on how our defense is.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I don’t think Foye even belongs in the NBA.. he’s terrible.

  • YESYESYES

    it is getting so ugly. totally disorganized

  • sws94

    Kenny has to get the team to play 1) D 2) consistent O throughout the game. The 3Qs aren’t getting any better.

  • sport

    He has height disadvantage and can’t really make plays.

  • YESYESYES

    Nets should put Yoqi in instead of Foye

  • sport

    It’s getting worst doesn’t help when the right guys aren’t getting the start. Foye should not be getting so many minutes and McCullough needs to start or get 6th man type of minutes.

  • CJSHYY

    KA still don’t do anything to improve the 3Q again…. smh! Developing time for 4Q…..

  • sport

    This game has gotten so one sided and boring. The talent is there but I just don’t think KA’s offense is working. Sorry to say but this team would be doing so much better if MDA was the coach with his PnR offense.

  • Geoffrey

    nets are unwatchable without Jeremy. season could be lost quite quickly if he doesn’t return soon and by then, Jeremy would just be playing meaningless minutes. sucks that Jeremy just can’t catch a break.

  • guest

    Without Lin, I don’t see players coming together and discussing how to help each other or remind each other of their assignments and defensive rotations. And, I haven’t seen Foye go on one shooting streak this year. Pre-season or regular.

  • CJSHYY

    KA has no idea what to do but developing young…. smh!

  • Win

    Couldn’t agreed more. MDA will ride the players more than 30+ mins to win game. KA won’t.

  • sport

    Yes MDA actually wants to win games and gives 30+ minutes for the starter players to do well. KA restricts his main starters like Lin and Lopez’s minutes and doesn’t write any plays for them. Lopez is out there either ignored or relying on himself to score while his teammates just goes for their own shots and miss. No one rushes to the basket behind Lopez when he is going to the rim. Then when he misses no one’s there to rebound.

  • Geoffrey

    man, this Lin situation reminds me of Yao. once Yao got really good, his foot would fracture every year. hope the rest of Lin’s career isn’t riddled with injury…

  • sport

    Lopez was open in the corner but no 3 point pass.

  • sport

    Yogi chucking up bricks after bricks instead of looking for teammates. It’s 4th quarter and somehow Bojan isn’t on the floor? I’d rather see Bojan handle the ball seriously at least his iso goes in! Take Kilpatrick out please!

  • Win

    Mind as well put in McCullough and Bennett, since he likes developing players so much.

  • sws94

    Bad game for Skil tonight.

  • sport

    McCullough and Bojan should be starting and closing 4th! Seriously Bojan should be handling the ball not Foye, not Yogi, not RHJ!. Somehow he played well last game and this game he’s benched with limited minutes. Not sure what KA is thinking.

  • grover chang

    What’s everyone’s theory why third quarter’s are bad for Nets.

  • guest

    As much as I’m all for Kenny, but I’m losing confidence. If it wasn’t for my belief in Lin and Lopez and what they can bring to a team, I’d say Nets are done. If Lin can get the team on a win streak before end of December, then we’ll be ok.
    Portland for the 15-16 season started off through November 18th, 4-9 win/loss. They ended up in playoffs and winning 1st round of playoffs.

  • BobbyH

    Adjustment. Especially defense end.

  • YESYESYES

    giving up. bye.

  • guest

    Atkinson’s rotations!

  • guest

    Portland plays similar, but Lin is out and there isn’t another point guard on the Nets that can contain do what other top team point guards can do.

  • CJSHYY

    I believe if no Lin in this team, KA & Nets will loss all the games so far this season. KA is not smart or good coach yet in this league. Nice person for sure-KA.

  • Epie

    So many players having a career high stats against Nets.

  • HVJoy
  • CJSHYY

    Indeed. Like I said. If no Lin Nets will loss all the games this season so far. smh!

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t get why they didn’t sign another vet PG instead of rookie again???

    https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/800466509931880449

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    It could be that he’s simply taking order from Marks…For some strange reason, they believe in playing players as less as possible and will also hold on players coming back from injuries for longer.

    Marks was the one who shut down Lopez last year for the final 6 games, eventhough Lopez would have had plenty of time to rest during 6 months off-season.

    No one gets more than 30 minutes and rest time for Lopez…I think it’s Marks’s idea.

    I also believe Lin is probably 100% ready, but they believe in extra rest.

  • sws94

    Agreed.

  • Steppen03

    There’s really NO knocks on KA. This Nets team really lacks the talents, athleticism and experience (outside of Lin, Brook, Booker). But it’s not a “bad” team – there’s No floor general or engine to run the team right now. Can the Clippers be really good without CP3 ? Blazers without Lillard ? That’s what Lin meant for this team. They will go on a winning streak when JL7 comes back running on all pistons. This team KNOWS how to win but it’s hard when the X-factor is not there.

  • YellowClaw

    If they hold Lin back for any longer, this season will soon be a lost cause.
    Let the man play if he’s 100%!!

  • Lin Dunn

    Obviously he will play if he is 100%

  • Lin Dunn

    Who is willing to sign with them?

  • Steppen03

    It’s STILL very early in the season. Even if they lose the next couple games they can still get back to .500 when JL7 lead them on a winning steak. It’s not February.

  • Spot

    Some players deserve to be cut and others deserve to play more.

    But I keep the faith

  • Lin Dunn

    I know individual players may not be talented in D, but they need to play as a team for team D.

  • HVJoy

    True! It’s too early in the season to hit the panic button.

  • CJSHYY

    I hope Lin comes back next week. Otherwise Nets game standard procedure it’s like this.

    1stQ-Hot
    2ndQ-Cool down
    3rdQ-Collapse
    4thQ-Give up

  • CJSHYY
  • Grace

    “Lin is progressing according to plan but I can’t give you a timeline because we don’t have a schedule.” –KA

  • YellowClaw

    That’s such bogus

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Don’t like the way that sound at all..Lin has been out for 2 weeks and 3 days, so you’d think there would be some timeline on his return by now…May not be a hard one but something close.

    My guess is Lin is 100% healthy but they just want to keep him out for extra time to rest…..They believe in minimizing the amount of games and minutes a player plays.

    It also allows them to assess younger players like Yogi and Whitehead.

  • psalm234

    It’s another tough loss hard to swallow but I don’t mind the Nets continues to prioritize JLin’s health as the #1 priority.
    We can expect the performance team would want to see Lin participates in practice games 2-3 times before letting him play.
    JLin really needs all the prayers he can get to come back healthy very soon.

    Here’s a good article explaining the severity of hamstring injury if not treated properly

    At it’s core, hamstring strains are tricky, particularly so because that word itself is misleading. These strains aren’t like tweaking an ankle or dislocating a finger, and they often linger far past their expiration date. In fact, they can even be small tears and, if they’re not given rehab and time, can leave athletes shelved indefinitely.

    https://twitter.com/nedough/status/800426108701343744

  • pistolpete

    Are the Nets tanking? Looking to trade Lopez for draft picks?

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t think they are tanking but do feel Lopez will be traded for picks.

  • psalm234

    There are no incentives for them to tank since they traded their draft picks away for the next few years.
    Also, I’m not sure they’re ready to trade Brook since he starts making these 3s (unless the offer is too good to decline)

    I think they will stick to their plan to develop this young high-character team. If anything they need to win enough to attract FAs to sign with the Nets next off-season.

    But it’s definitely tough to absorb these losses without Lin.

    I expect they will look to find experienced backup PG in between Dec 15-Feb trade deadline

  • Win

    develop this young high-character team = Tanking, but not the same like 76ers as they are tanking for nothing.

  • fungch1218

    All trading rumors of Lopez don’t make sense to me.
    If I was the Nets, I would play Lin and Lopez like stars to attract more talented players in FA market.

  • psalm234

    I’m not sure if they’re ready to tank for the sake of development to play only rookies.
    They still need to win 30+ games if they hope to attract FAs to come to join the Nets.

  • fungch1218

    Trading Lopez means they will do what the Sixers did in the past few years and Lin won’t exercise the player option.in 3rd year.

  • Lin Dunn

    If they trade Lopez, they may end up with a 12 and 70 record. Ahh.. Boston will get a very good draft pick.

  • CJSHYY

    I feel the same way but I don’t think that’s what GM & Coach had in mind…. Soon we will know the trading Lopez it’s real or just rumor.

  • psalm234

    Great to see the Nets help to serve Thanksgiving dinner to the community after the Blazers game

    #Nets host Thanksgiving Dinner event at the 40/40 club after the Blazers game.
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/800496521758195712

  • psalm234

    @linfinity88
    Jeremy thanking everyone for coming to our community dinner tonight.
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/800498615214977024

  • psalm234

    Alan Crabbe talked about the “what ifs” if he had joined the Nets as Plan A.
    The Nets would’ve been more formidable with Tyler Johnson and Crabbe joined them.

    Crabbe, who’s putting up numbers similar to those that the Nets liked last season, finished Sunday night with 14 points, shooting 5-of-10, including 4-of-7 from deep.

    Exclusive: What Allen Crabbe might have been

    On being a “Plan A” in the Nets’ new system:
    “It was cool, man. Just hearing how they were going to use me, it was a good feeling knowing I was a big part of the puzzle. For them to invest that much in me and be that interested, it’s a good feeling.”

    “As a basketball player, everybody’s dream is to be a starter and I had that chance here in Brooklyn. And if that isn’t your dream as a basketball player, then you shouldn’t be playing.”

    “When I met with them, they were straightforward and told me, ‘Look we’ve got a lot of young guys here that are looking to compete. We’re going to try and build from here.’ So you know, I felt like that was a positive first step going into something good being built here.”

    “I liked everything about how they were going to use me. But you know, everything happens for a reason and I’m back here and I’m happy with that.”

    On whether there’s a sense of ‘what if?’
    (Laughs) Yeah man. I think it’s human nature. You think ‘what if. What if I was playing here?’ So there’s always that. I don’t think about it too much, but I’m focused on being here and helping this team be successful.
    —-
    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/11/20/13694390/exclusive-what-allen-crabbe-might-have-been

  • pistolpete

    If they trade Brook for draft picks they will be tanking for something.

  • pistolpete

    The “performance team” is being over cautious in my opinion. They rested Lopez the fourth game of the season and we lost at the buzzer. Levert has no timetable to be available. It will be 3 weeks since Lin was injured this Wednesday when we play Boston and no word on his return. Does the “performance team” think players are China dolls or that NBA players only play when 100% healthy? Do they live in an alternate universe?

  • zxcvb

    Welp, let’s hope that the radio silence is some kind of gamesmanship and Lin is back Wednesday. On the bright side, 2-6 without Lin is an overperformance.

  • CJSHYY
  • pistolpete

    Nets should kept Gutierrez as pg. Maybe they can recall him.

  • YellowClaw

    It’s not that easy can’t be losing too many games

  • YellowClaw

    they are being too cautious

  • aggressiveplayer

    We still have about 1/8th or 1/9th of the season left dude

  • takeme2cruz

    Nets took bad gamble on Vazquez’s health.

  • takeme2cruz

    So truth especially tough road trip. But how they lost was ugly.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Like Marks said, can’t bat a perfect 1.00 =(

  • aggressiveplayer

    Just wait until LeVert and Lin are back. We should be better.

  • Guest

    There are other free agent point guards on the market, but Nets elected to go with the current players. Nets might see a higher upside in the players they have.

  • sport

    Glad NetsDaily see the same things we do. They should also mention giving McCullough more minutes.

  • guest

    The high scoring Nets does not equate to efficiency, due to the pace where both teams will get more touches. What is obvious, is the defense.
    Nets as a team rank the worst in Misc Stats:
    1. Opp Pts off TO: worst team @ 21pts
    2. Opp 2nd PTS: worst team @ 15.5
    3. Opp FBPs: 8th from worst team @ 14.8
    4. Opp PITP: 6th from worst team @ 46.5

    These should improve once Jeremy comes back.

  • guest

    When every player is on the perimeter looking for a 3pt, it’s hard to get a rebound for a 2nd shot attempt. Hope Atkinson adjusts this and does boxing-out drills.

  • takeme2cruz

    Have strong feeling lin will come back on next game vs Celtics. If not, the problem is much worse than we thought.

  • CJSHYY

    I think he will be back vs Celtics too.

  • aggressiveplayer

    That’s what I’m expecting too. If not, then yea, either the problem was worse than we thought or the Nets being extremely cautious.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Great information. These should improve with Jeremy back, but I’m not sure by how much.

  • guest

    I think a lot of athletes have a proper stretching routine in their daily life before and after games away from the practices. Hope Lin incorporates a better stretching routine.

  • guest

    I mean, “Don’t have a proper stretching routine”

  • aggressiveplayer

    I saw that today as well. A bunch of players are out at the 3 point line, so when someone shoots a 3 and if we want offensive boards we’re really not going to get many because a majority of our players are camped out there.

  • guest

    in the mean time.
    https://youtu.be/ddtRAFEKsMA

  • CJSHYY

  • psalm234

    I was hoping Celtics will be the return game.
    But I’m concerned he hasn’t participated in game scrimmages in practice.

    He might not get a green light from the performance team if he doesn’t look okay in 1-2 scrimmages.
    It’s hard; we want him to get back soon but we don’t really know the extent of his injury

  • psalm234

    Lin said he’s able to run now & slowly recover from his injury. He’s thankful for his family & God this Thanksgiving http://weibo.cn/3800480539/4044184614466118

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/800525446420959232

  • psalm234

    I’m thankful to hear that Lin said he’s able to run now & slowly recover from his injury.

  • takeme2cruz

    Two days ago a report told us he didn’t paticipate with team shooting around but he ran and did some shooting.

  • psalm234

    so he’s been able to run for 2 days then? That’s even better.
    For some reason, I thought he was only doing shoot-around.
    I really want to see him play in practice

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes it’s been 2 days at least since in okc.

  • DX

    It seems still need 2 weeks.

  • guest

    Once a shot goes up, one of the players need to rush the paint and either try to box out, or at least hassle the rebound to prevent the fast break.

  • guest

    Lin will come back guns blazing! He’ll be well rested and won’t skip a beat.

  • grover chang

    I think third quarter collapse is due to starters being cold to start the second half. They need more minutes in the first half.

  • aggressiveplayer

    If I remember correctly, when Foye was listed as probable, that was his first shootaround. He didn’t play that day, but after he was able to do the shootaround we had a game a few days later and he played.

  • psalm234

    there are 6 more games (Celtics, Pacers, Kings, Clippers, Bucks, Bucks) in the next 2 weeks
    Dec 5 is the Wizards game

    hopefully it won’t be that long

  • aggressiveplayer

    It sounds like he’s already on track.. He’s able to run faster now and I think by the Celtics game he should be ready to go, though no rush. I wouldn’t want him reinjured.

  • CJSHYY

    slowly means needs more time? So maybe he will not come back next week then?….

  • DX

    I hope so too, but “able to run” is still far from play high competed game.

  • takeme2cruz

    I have doubt that the Nets are rushing lin back by the way they’re reporting his injury status. But I hope lin is 100% by then.

  • psalm234

    thanks, hopefully the Nets follows the same process to clear Lin

  • psalm234

    @NYPost_Lewis
    #Nets’ defense at a crisis point in humiliating home letdown

    The Nets were outrebounded 50-36 and have now surrendered a mind-bending average of 126.3 points during their current skid.

    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Lewis/status/800562966013812736

  • Dan cohen

    geez.. whathappened.
    I was watching the first half.. they were pretty close.
    but I guss the melltdown occur in the 3rd quarter again?
    smh.

  • CJSHYY

    Nothing happened… just a typical Nets game as usual… smh!

  • Dan cohen

    u forgot to add ‘without lin.’

  • CJSHYY

    True…lol!

  • aggressiveplayer

    Same. The Nets really need Lin back asap but at the same time can’t rush him for these short term gains.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Hopefully man. The Nets desperately need Lin. Pelicans without Jrue Holiday are horrible. But with Holiday back they look pretty decent. Utah Jazz without George Hill lost to the Nuggets. Point is, losing the PG makes a huge difference.

  • joy

    It’s probably the safest way to do that. We just have to wait patiently, especially for Lin!

  • Dan Ang

    Thank goodness, no tear for JLin. Speaking of tears, I have AJ Green on my fantasy football squad. And after two plays in the opening drive, he got carted off the field. It turns out he got a tear in his hamstring, which means the season over for him…and possibly me too. =(

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Believe I saw a tweet from SKil/Whitehead that Guiterrez had a successful surgery again if I’m not mistaken soon after he was released from Nets.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Clifford did state that JLin was the career bench player.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Huge officiating controversy on Raptors vs Kings game. Makes me appreciate games like today where there wasn’t any bad officiating I can recall for either side.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    No wonder I root for JLin:-) He is so cool:-)
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/800586756688998402

  • LinMadd

    when is Lin playing again?

  • joy

    No one knows.

  • LinMadd

    lets protest

  • KHuang

    You’re talking about Vasquez, not Gutierrez.

  • grover chang

    All I want for the holidays is Linsanity. Is that too much to ask?

  • Acbc

    AggressivePlayer said that the Nets is an organization that seems to have great attention to detail. That meme started thinking about this latest step in Lin’s journey.

    Attention to detail is what a good organization separates themselves from the rest. It starts from the top and influences every rung from the FO, to coaching, to team and individual player. The Nets seems deadly serious about building a culture that uses this attention to details as a means to a dynasty.

    As a player, your own responsibility is to take the same approach. Not many would have made note of an elite skill that Lin has but BBallBreakdown video on “Jeremy Lin torches the Spurs” did exactly that at 2:08 of the video. Lin came back to the ball from a soft screen at the elbow and did a split step while catching the ball. The separation of that split step was massive with the right leg angled way out to accept the force of the breaking. Simultaneously his inside foot on that split step had already turned his ankle towards the direction he was going to take the ball. That inside foot was also positioned exactly where it was needed to be to become the spike step to push off from. It’s self evident that when you gain a split second of time in change of direction, it’s gain makes the separation almost impossible to make up. It was total body control and proprioception that made it happen.

    Some wonder why bigger guys aren’t better rebounders. The truth is that they lack what we mistake as athleticism when in fact it’s a learned art of body control. From my own experience coaching, I was shocked that my best college player didn’t know about these footwork. ITS ALL IN THE DETAILS, just as “AggressivePlayer” said. It’s not about size or reach, it’s about body control and the minute details of how to position yourself just enough of an advantage to put yourself in front of an opponent as the ball reaches the rim. It’s then that the lower body must prepare a fraction faster than others to angle your knees to jump towards the bounce off the rim. Great rebounders aren’t great athletes by accident, they’ve learned those skills by attention to the details of how to make use of their bodies. This is why Lin is a very good rebounder.

    In the same way a judo master uses minute details to gain an advantage by the slight edge they can gain with a fraction of an angle to throw an opponent. Great post up players and defenders use proprioception to gain an angle edge with their bum to peel away a defender. I and others have always LOL when bigger guys try to do it against Lin and fail miserably only to pass it off or take a ridiculously tough fade away. The body control to maintain a postup guy requires instantaneous reaction to what little angles the opponent try’s to do to gain an edge. Lin just has full control of his body positions and total awareness where every part of his body down to the little pinky toe that will make the angled adjustments needed to set the right body angle to accept the bump.

    Being heavy is an art and skill that big men need to learn. Power and strength is useless “if you fire a canon from a lifeboat” Nick Bolliteri Attention to detail teaches an athlete to maximize their ground-force. To be heavy is to be supple to be a dead weight, while the toes and feet actively search out the angles to keep that dead weight in the way. Great ones uses that skill, no so great ones lock up their body with tightness. They use massive force, teeth clenched to resist and push, only to get easily pushed over like a stiff tippy pile of lumber.

    The best example of how skill can overcome size is Wilt Chamberlain vs Bill Russell. Chamberlain was 7’1″ and 275 while Russell was 6’9.5″ and 225. It’s a good thing Clifford wasn’t Russell’s coach because he would have sat on the bench for lacking length to handle Chamberlain.

    I’m sure there are some bandwagon Lin fans who don’t know a thing about destiny or faith. It’s easy to hope, not so easy to make it happen. ITS ALL IN THE DETAILS. That’s how it will happen.

    Hope is looking at a distant mountain range you wish to climb with wide eyes but no plans to make it happen. Faith is knowing you will get to the peak of that mountain. Belief is actively applying the emotional strength to the steps you need to take each day towards that destination. Those that do not dare to believe, will accept failure before the journey has begun. Atkinson and the Nets BELIEVES whole heartedly in that journey. Attention to detail is watching each small steps ahead and planting them firmly so they can’t fall back

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Concurring with Grover Chang who replied to Acbc, “All I want for the holidays is Linsanity. Is that too much to ask?”
    “All I want for Christmas . . . is LINSANITY2” Absolutely! Imagaine, the Nets are down like 8 games in a row, and then Lin comes back, re-energizes the team and they go on a 10 game winning streak!! New York City and the media will explode with Linsanity2. New Yorkers (and probably people everywhere) need and are waiting for inspiration and passion.

  • takeme2cruz

    History does repeat.

  • Dan cohen

    but ka doesn’t want linsanity 2.0. in a way. he wants motion offense where pg is not truly centic. you can only get linsanity 2.0 if the system is pg centric.. look at hardenio.

  • psalm234

    ouch … it goes to show how dangerous hamstring injury can be 🙁

    fantasy football certainly requires a lot of waiver wire searching due to lots of injuries

  • psalm234

    so true.. having a solid floor general certainly helps teams not only on the offensive end but also to cover defensive holes. Lin’s help D and timely read to draw charges are momentum changers that Nets dearly missed :[

  • psalm234

    yeah, noone really knows .. let’s hope for the best.
    The good thing is the Nets are being extra careful with Lin so it’ll be good for his career

  • CJSHYY

    This one is more clear to hear exactly what he said & more details…….

  • HVJoy

    Straining Issues: The Problem With Jeremy Lin’s Hamstring (Mods, please delete if it was already posted)

    Chris Paul, Avery Bradley, AJ Green, Rodney Stuckey, Jeremy Lamb… all had the same condition.

    “The point? No hamstring injury is equal, each one deserving of its own rehab based on severity or circumstance. For the Clippers, it was imperative that Paul return quickly, but for the Nets (and Pacers, Hornets, and Hawks) in November? It’s an entirely different story.”

    http://thebrooklyngame.com/straining-issues-problem-jeremy-lins-hamstring/

    http://i2.wp.com/thebrooklyngame.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/AP_16324077954756-e1479670527983.jpg?zoom=3&resize=800%2C533

  • Arsenium12 .

    A sign of progress, I guess ….
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Lewis/status/800751369455968256

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy can be seen shooting in the background, by the window ….
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/800756133589880832

  • CJSHYY

    Looks good. Hope he can come back soon.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • psalm234

    The scary stats backed up #NoLinNoWin

    @NYPost_Lewis
    The scary stats that prove how much the #Nets need #JeremyLin

    They were 2-3 with their starting point guard, but have lost 6 of 8 without him. And the advanced statistics tell an even grizzlier story.

    With Lin on the court, the Nets’ offensive rating is a 109.3 and their defensive rating is 107.4, for a respectable plus-1.8. But without their floor leader, their ratings change to 103.6 and 109.0 for a terrible minus-5.7.

    In short, Lin’s presence is worth 7.2 points every 100 possessions. That’s a game-changer, and his absence since Nov. 2 has been just that for the Nets.
    http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/the-scary-stats-that-prove-how-much-the-nets-need-jeremy-lin/

    https://twitter.com/NYPost_Lewis/status/800583747087241216

  • CJSHYY

    I can’t see anything?

  • psalm234

    @BryanFonsecaNY
    Brook Lopez taking 3’s. Rondae working on his corner jumper.
    Jeremy Lin shooting on the far end. #Nets #Practice
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/800756133589880832

  • EliChu

    Me too.

  • psalm234

    LeVert might be able to help soon (maybe 1-2 weeks?)

    @BryanFonsecaNY
    Kenny Atkinson says Caris LeVert went through the whole practice today. No timetable yet. #Nets
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/800751336031711232

  • CJSHYY
  • DX

    Good to watch Lin is practicing, but It seems missed some shoots.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s OK. As soon as he doesn’t feel sore then he can come back.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Rick James

    Linsanity 2 won’t happen, not on the nets the way they are right now. New Yorkers are die hard knick fans. Nets are a new team and need to grow their history in NYC.
    Another thing, there were lots of cases of mini linsanity in charlotte last season. Against the cavs, spurs, the playoffs. All those games the crowd literally went crazy as if it were NYC. Good times.

  • Barry Allen
  • Barry Allen

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/the-scary-stats-that-prove-how-much-the-nets-need-jeremy-lin/

    “The Nets aren’t saying when injured Jeremy Lin will be able to play again. But it can’t be soon enough. They were 2-3 with their starting point guard, but have lost six of eight without him. And the advanced statistics tell an even grizzlier story.

    With Lin on the court, the Nets’ offensive rating is a 109.3 and their defensive rating is 107.4, for a respectable plus-1.8. But without their floor leader, their ratings change to 103.6 and 109.0 for a terrible minus-5.7.

    In short, Lin’s presence is worth 7.2 points every 100 possessions. That’s a game-changer, and his absence since Nov. 2 has been just that for the Nets.”

    …..

  • Barry Allen

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/11/21/brooklyn-nets-jeremy-lin-kenny-atkinson-nba-team-stats/

    “With starter Jeremy Lin still not cleared from the strained hamstring he incurred during a victory over Detroit on Nov. 2, the Nets crashed back to Earth following a promising 4-5 start.”

    “Without Lin, the Nets’ lack of depth at the position has been exposed. Atkinson had Rondae Hollis-Jefferson attempt to tackle Paul and Westbrook, an impossible task for the second-year wing.”

    “Lillard and McCollum combined to score 51 points on 20-of-33 shooting from the floor on Sunday. Not too much different from how the Clippers’ Chris Paul (21 points, 8-for-11), the Lakers D’Angelo Russell (32 points, 11-for-20), and the Thunder’s Russell Westbrook (30 points, 13-for-21) previously toyed with Brooklyn’s lame perimeter defense.”

    ….

  • takeme2cruz

    With some reports today, it’s clear that lin has been ready to come back even with limit minutes. But the Nets are looking at more than that and I don’t think they put playoff now their top priority. If lin can run and shoot, he must play. Over protecting would not be good for business. Lin should play at least 20 mpg.

  • KHuang

    Kenny Atkinson needs to learn that putting the team’s worst defender in RHJ on opposing best players is DESTROYING the Nets.

  • takeme2cruz

    Rhj would be lucky if he’s in the nets rotation. He’s no starter.

  • CJSHYY

    But from the video w Asia’s reporter, Lin said they have to see if he’s sore feeling the next day after practice…. So I guess Lin probably have the sore feeling after practice that’s why he is not OK to go yet.

  • takeme2cruz

    He ran hard again this morning mean no sore.

  • aggressiveplayer

    YES!!!! LEVERT!

  • aggressiveplayer

    What are your predictions on when Lin will be back?

  • takeme2cruz

    Next game.

  • CJSHYY

    That will be great bc that interview was from last night.

  • aggressiveplayer

    From what was tweeted today it sounds like a possibility, but from what Atkinson said about “no timetable” it sounds like he could easily be out for another week.

  • takeme2cruz

    It’s more of my wish than my prediction.

  • takeme2cruz

    KA is 100% opposite with BS.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Same.. =/

  • Grace

    It’s easy to criticize many of the Nets players and RHJ is really hurting this team at both ends of the floor. But who on this roster would you start in his place? (And please don’t mention Bennett.) We don’t have a better small forward because we don’t have ANY other SFs. We have like 0 depth at the 3,4, and 5 positions. That’s why our defense is atrocious. Then add to it the total lack of a PG besides Lin and it’s a wonder we can compete at all.

  • Dorothy

    I am asking this again. Does anyone have the quote which Clifford said Lin was, is and will always be a backup in this league? I have been going back to the old archive trying to find it since yesterday but could not. YesYesYes said it is after Feb 3 2016 Cav game. I still could not find it.

    BTW, YesYesYes, how is your job going? While searching for the archive it reminded me that you wrote you were facing some instability at your work, but you worried more about Lin than your own job. How is everything going?

  • Barry Allen

    Clifford said that? Wow, that seems like a bad comment.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I don’t think he said something like that. He may have said something along the lines of Lin being a backup pg for the Hornets team, but I have never heard Clifford ever say he will always be a backup in this league.

  • Lin Dunn

    Clifford never said LIn was is and will always be backup. I believe multiple times last season he has been asked when will he start Lin. (one of the very first interview was during pre season, some Chinese interviewer asked him). Then another time late in the season, Lin played pretty well in a game, he was asked a question somewhere along that line. Clifford got irritated. He answered Jlin has came off the bench before, so he is coming off the bench currently.

  • Lin Dunn

    No he did not say that.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I think this is the correct answer. I think Dorothy got it mixed up thinking Clifford said he will always be a backup while he’s in the NBA.

  • Dorothy

    You and another person I don’t want name the name keeps saying it is referring to Hornets. But my collection is Clifford referred to the league not just Hornets. This is part of the reason why I want to find out the exact quote to see if my understanding was wrong.

  • aggressiveplayer

    But if you can’t find something like that, he probably didn’t say it, no? The closest information we have is what Lin Dunn said.

  • Lin Dunn

    Clifford said Lin has history of coming off bench, and he was comfortable OK in doing that.

  • Dorothy

    Clifford definitely said it, I just want to see he was talking about Hornets as some of you said, or he actually was saying Lin will always be a backup in NBA. That is why I want to find the exact quote. Clifford did say something that is for sure.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I guess if we can find that video of Clifford mentioning Lin will be a backup we can clarify whether he said it was for the Hornets or the entire league

  • Dorothy

    Clifford probably said that too. But he definitely said something alone the line that Lin was, is and will always be a backup. I remember he meant NBA, but some people here said he was referring to Hornets. I could be wrong, but that is not my recollection.

  • Lin Dunn

    It was a vid, at the time was on Charlotte hornets website. He didn’t say Lin WILL be backup. He said Lin has history of coming off the bench, so there is not problem for him to come off the bench at CHA. Clifford never said anything about future. Most of the time when he refers to LIn’s future, he said he believed Lin’s future 3 pointers will be good b/c he fixed or was fixing his shooting. He also generally said Jlin has good defense.

  • Dorothy

    He did. I just can not 100% say he meant NBA since some are saying Clifford meant Hornets only. I remember right after Clifford said that, there was huge outrage on this board.
    Come on, no one else remembers it now except me???

  • Lin Dunn

    If you remember then find the reference. He might have comment on Jlin’s not playing as a starter multiple times b/c he was asked many times about that.

  • aggressiveplayer

    If there was a huge outrage, I’m sure there would also be some articles on the web about it. For example, I didn’t know Isaiah Thomas said there’s guys like Lin, ahead of him in all-star voting (which he feels like Lin doesn’t quite deserve). But when I Google “Isaiah Thomas Jeremy Lin” I can instantly find some results on it.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Also, this isn’t the video, but here’s Clifford saying Lin starting is definitely a possibility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwycjQ9LDo

  • Dorothy

    No, I believe it is not in a formal interview setting. If I remember right, he was asking by one reporter only.

  • Candy

    “He’s come off the bench all year. Most of his NBA career he’s been coming off the bench,” said Clifford. “That’s where it’s going to be. That’s his role.”

    Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/112147/20160328/nba-news-rumors-jeremy-lin-stay-bench-despite-big-numbers.htm#ixzz4QgSdSdC2

  • aggressiveplayer

    Ok I finally found the video. Clifford never said anything about Lin’s future being off the bench. He only said he’s going to come off the bench for the year. The captioning in this video doesn’t even make any sense. Clifford never said Lin will forever come off the bench yet whoever made this video is extrapolating way too much. I hate videos like these when people just assume things.

  • Arsenium12 .

    I think this is the interview you’re looking for. Clifford says effectively “most of Jeremy’s career he’s come off the bench. That’s his role …”
    __________

  • aggressiveplayer

    I posted this as well.

  • Dorothy

    Yes, this is it. Thanks.

  • Chopz
  • Dorothy

    Yes, this is the interview. People can draw the conclusions themselves now. Thanks.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I’m still sticking with my conclusion and not going to instigate anything.

  • Dorothy

    Yes, this article. It shows how political Clifford is and no backbones.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Damn, your memory is 100% correct.

  • Barry Allen

    Sounds like he was talking about his time on the Hornets? Makes sense since they were paying Kemba a ton of money to start.

  • Candy

    It was not true before Lin came to Hornets: “Most of his NBA career he’s been coming off the bench”

  • KHuang

    Oh, it’s a VERY EASY FIX:

    I’d do exactly what I said the Nets should do this summer:

    Start Bogdanovic at his natural 3 position and start Harris at the 2.

    Then bring Kilpatrick off the bench at the 2 and Trevor Booker as the backup 3. It isn’t as if Booker can compete physically against opposing starting 4s anyway.

    Send RHJ to the D League where he belongs, stash him there for an entire season and see if he has any NBA potential at all.

    I’d start Hamilton at the 4 to give the Nets more of a fighting chance up front, and then I’d indeed play Bennett and especially CMC more. But I’d pair them with veterans like Scola and Lopez and Booker when they come off the bench.

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah he could be wrong about that, I’m not sure how many games he played off the bench or as a starter, never counted it. But he says ‘that’s his role here’.

  • KHuang

    I never go by what anybody says, but I go by what they do.

    Clifford refused to start Lin unless injuries were decimating his team.

    By his ACTIONS, it is clear that Clifford does not feel Lin is capable of starting in the NBA.

  • aggressiveplayer

    It was true… On the Knicks he started but he was technically “off the bench”. It’s like the same deal as Whitehead right now. On the Rockets he started for one season but then got moved to the bench eventually. On the Lakers he also started but later played off the bench.

  • Dorothy

    Should we say James Harden for majority of his NBA career he is a back up since he was a back up for OKC for many years?

  • Dorothy

    therefore, back up is Harden’s role?

  • KHuang

    YES HE DID.

    On this board, Clifford’s comments sparked huge outrage.

  • Candy

    He has been a starter a whole season (2013-2014) with Rockets. How could he come to a conclusion that most of his NBA career has been a back-up?

  • aggressiveplayer

    I’m not saying at all what the role should have been.. All I’m saying is it was true that the majority of his career he was off the bench.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Because for 3 seasons he was considered off the bench while in only one season he was considered a starter?

  • Dorothy

    no, majority NBA players started as a back up then grow into starter. How could Clifford use that to define a player whom he knew is better than his star PG otherwise he would not try to marginalized Lin at every possible chance? He was just being a pet.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Again, I’m not saying at all what role Lin should or should not have been defined as. All I’m saying is it’s true when Clifford said the majority of his career was off the bench.

  • Dorothy

    I think Clifford knew Lin is good, that is why he tried not to let Lin outshine his star Kemba. He knew Lin was mistreated and marginalized at both Rockets and Lakers. I believe that is part of the reason Lin felt Clifort “know” his game and came to Hornets. For Clifford to say majority of Lin’s career is a back up therefore that is Lin’s role is disgrace. Then several days later after the outrage, Clifford trying to backtrack what he said.

  • KHuang

    I believe Clifford genuinely thinks Lin can not physically compete as a starter.

    Like all Lin hating coaches, Clifford never learned how WRONG he was.

  • Dorothy

    I am saying for Clifford to say that, that means Clifford believes Lin should just be a bench player (no matter Lin deserves of not) because he would not use the prior years of the player’s role to define a currently strong player except when it comes to Lin. That is why I used Harden as an example. He would definitely not say Harden’s role is a back up because majority of Harden’s role was a back-up since he knows Harden is definitely a starter now.

  • Grace

    For example:

    “After another very good game from Jeremy Lin, Steve Clifford had two interesting things to say: That the win over the San Antonio Spurs was in no way better or more special than the win over the Nets, and that Lin has always been a backup player after questioned whether Lin’s recent form (66 points over the last three games and being the catalyst in the two consecutive wins) merits a place in the lineup.”

    http://sportige.com/charlotte-hornets-jeremy-lin-steve-clifford-michael-jordan-93593/

    So it was after the Spurs game (not Cavs). If you go back to that thread it will be easy to find the whole interview, including quotes, etc.

  • Arsenium12 .

    If you check basketball-reference.com, from 2011-12 (New York Knicks) until the present, in the regular season, Jeremy has started 188 games and come off the bench for 157.

    In 2010-11, with the Warriors, he appeared in 29 regular seasons games as a reserve, none as a starter. I think he was up-and-down to the D league that year.

  • aggressiveplayer

    I mean, I understand what you’re saying but it’s really hard to say whether Clifford had any malicious intent or not, which is why I’m not going to assume anything. There are a lot of factors for why a player might come off the bench other than whether a player is good enough or not. Like system fit, roles, etc.

  • Grace

    I asked you nicely not to mention Bennett. The guy chokes in garbage time. Could you imagine counting on him to come through in crunch time?

    Bogdan is not much better on defense then RHJ and both Harris and Hamilton are poor defenders as well. Kenny basically rotates the whole roster and there doesn’t seem to be any lineup that can get stops. Maybe that’s the problem. Too little continuity to to establish a well-organized team defense.

  • psalm234

    Very encouraging to see the #Nets have Jeremy Lin’s best interest at heart

    Atkinson on the injured Jeremy Lin: “We’re trying to build him up so he has his best chance at long term success,” #Nets.
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/800775045148712960

  • aggressiveplayer

    Does that mean Lin is going to get an extension from the Nets after he might or might not opt out?!?!

  • psalm234

    I’m sure the Nets will work out a new deal once they see Lin’s breakthrough on-court and off-court (marketing revenues).

    If the Nets win 30+ and 40+ wins in the next 2 seasons, I think Lin and Atkinson would want a package deal to stay together

  • aggressiveplayer

    I really hope so. If I were the Nets I care a lot about loyalty and what the players have contributed to the organization, hence why I wouldn’t trade Brook. The players show my organization respect, I give them respect back by offering them an extension =)

  • Dorothy

    I actually feel Lin will give Nets a huge discount for next contract if Lin plans to stay with Nets and Nets keeps him as the franchise player, so that Nets can have room to recruit good players.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Probably. Lin is a generous person and will sacrifice to help make the Nets better.

  • psalm234

    Clifford is good to JLin’s career to some extent to help get the Nets starter job but he’s definitely not an ideal coach for JLin.

    I read Clifford ‘owes’ Kemba when he got into a hot water but Kemba expressed confidence in him.
    Perhaps Clifford-Kemba relationship is similar to Atkinson-Lin’s

    In a way, it’s good that Clifford only believes (or follows the FO direction) in Lin as Kemba’s complement.
    I was quite concerned Lin might entertain to stay if they gave him big minutes in Game 7 playoff because of his sense of loyalty.

  • Joe what do you know

    I don’t think he specified the context that he referred to but the statement was in response to whatever the reporter asked at the time. So it could be pretty open to interpretation. But to really know the context of his response, we need to know what the reporter had said and the extire interview process. Anyway, why dwell on the past? Lin is in a good situation now and Clifford is no more than an ex from a forgettable breakup.

  • psalm234

    I’m sure Lin doesn’t mind giving discount to a franchise that is loyal to him but professionally he also knows the $ invested in player shows the level of commitment from a franchise so hopefully it’s not “Black Friday” huge discount 🙂

    His marketing appeal is so rare that I wonder how much of his salary is recouped from the Asian marketing revenue. He’s like a golden goose to Brett Yormark, the CEO of Nets and Barclay Center.

  • Grace

    heart kauaiblue • 8 months ago
    Paraphrasing: Cliff said most of Lin’s NBA career has been coming off the bench…that’s what it’s going to be…that’s his role..yeah..
    Go to Hornets website, click on videos and search for Cliff’s Nets post game on 3/22/2016.
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/vid

  • Lin Dunn

    I don’t think Jin will give Nets a huge discount. I think at end of 2 yrs when he can exercise his FA players option, he will do so. Nets have plenty of room to recruit reasonable players e.g. Tyler Johnson and Crabb, they did not sign, it is not an issue of money. I don’t think 2 yrs from now Kevin Durant will sign with the Nets no matter how much Nets will pay. I also think no matter what SM or KA said, in 3 yrs i.e.2019, Nets will have their own draft pick, and Nets will tank. I don’t want Jlin to be anywhere near the Nets at 2019.

  • Dorothy

    Agreed. I have already moved on, but when I read people said Hornets treated Lin well, I could not resist rebutting it 🙂

  • aggressiveplayer

    It doesn’t make much sense to tank in 2019 from my perspective. We’re going to rebuild for 3 years and then play a bad season and continue to rebuild for a couple more years? I don’t know.. that just doesn’t seem at all to make any sense. Why don’t we just continue to build from what we have 3 years from now and get a not as great 1st round draft pick?

  • aggressiveplayer

    I still think they did treat Lin well. This was just one small and very nit-picky comment that has no real bearings. The bigger picture is that the Hornets as an entire organization and community didn’t treat Lin poorly. You can argue that he didn’t get to start, but that’s about the only real thing worth arguing but it’s what he signed into anyway. Clifford has already mentioned that Lin knew what he was getting into and not once did Lin complain.

  • Joe what do you know

    Well… Hornets is the whole organisation including front office, players, staffs, fans and communities. Clifford himself has not enough representation for the entire Hornets community. I want to believe that Hornets as a collective community did treat Lin quite well and that was why he seemed to really enjoyed his time there.

  • spiderman

    golden goose lol

  • Rick James

    backbone? sorry but its not worth building a bad relationship with your core players and eventually getting fired. You guys are acting like clifford should be a saint, but if you were in the same position as him, what would you do? You would do the exact same thing as him. Clifford was very fair to Lin, more than fair, he trusted him more than most players on the team. He had the 3rd most minutes on the entire team, which to me speaks volumes. Actions speak louder than words.

    When nets faced hornets a few weeks ago, Clifford finally said what he thought: Lin was the most important player in the biggest games of last season. He said it now and not then for obvious reasons, and you guys need to understand that. Reality is crueler than fantasy.

  • zxcvb

    Sounds like he’s not playing Wednesday…but I understand. Hamstring is the darnedest thing. It’s not like a sore ankle where you can play on it and the worst case scenario is missing another week. If he aggravates a minor strain, he could end up missing 2 months.

    Sit out for November if need be. It stinks for us fans, but only a healthy Lin should be out on the court. He’s worked too hard to risk ruining his season. And Jeremy is really solidifying his leadership role as an informal assistant coach, so it’s not all wasted time. Even more than before, his teammates know they can trust him.

  • Dorothy

    Disagreed. Clifford said what he said a few weeks ago is because he did not want to look too bad when Linsanity 2.0 surfaces. He was trying to protect his own reputation just like what McHale is doing now.

  • Dorothy

    Yes, I could see Kemba doing that for Clifford. I think Kemba is a nice person, just do not like his tunnel vision as a PG.

  • TTNN

    No, I think Clifford know how good Lin is and he was using Lin to threaten Kemba for his own extension. He has been talking about Lin could play a lot along Kemba, and Lin could push Kemba, but he changed 180 after his own contract extension, from that day, he has been making sure Lin will not over shine Kemba.

  • Dorothy

    Good point. Did not notice that, but look back now it does seem to align with the timeline.

  • KHuang

    If I were Clifford, I’d have mercilessly started Lin at SG and let GM Rich Cho figure out what to do with MKG and Batum.

  • KHuang

    Bennett doesn’t play enough minutes consistently to “choke”. I’d play him because he is producing more than Booker and Scola.

    Bogdan isn’t the greatest defender, but at least he puts tremendous pressure on his matchups by scoring. RHJ doesn’t do that.

    Harris and Hamilton are still getting in shape, plus they have had to deal with poor PG defense from Whitehead (not so much Yogi).

    This is the NBA where NOBODY truly get stops (except for Lin) and the key to a good defense is wearing opponents out by scoring on them.

    Benching RHJ out of the rotation completely and sending Booker back to his career 20 mpg bench role would immediately erase the 3rd quarter beatdowns even with Lin not there. Even your guy Bennett would be a better starting fit than the slow unathletic Booker, and ANYBODY is a better fit than RHJ who is a 6’6″ Patrick Beverley with no skills whatsoever.

  • ViNuyork

    they really need him…we went to almost all home games and yesterday was bad—most of the crowd left at the beginning of the 4th quarter…….if they keep losing games -they’ll lose fans too…

  • KHuang

    It doesn’t mean anything, no.

  • KHuang

    I doubt it.

    This is the NBA where players always try to get as much money as they can, provided that the situation is right.

  • joy

    “…We want to make sure he progresses the right way and when he returns to play, he’s ready to go.”

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/800846493301305345

  • CJSHYY

    “I think with all of us, we’re super focus on the long term approach,” coach Atkinson said of the recovering Lin whose averaged 15.0 points and 6.2 assists in five regular season outings as a Net. “I know from a coaching standpoint I prefer to take a cautious approach and I know my performance team agrees with that, (general manager) Sean (Marks) does and this organization that’s the way we are. We want to make sure he progresses the right way and when he returns to play, he’s ready to go.”

  • joy

    That’s one of the things a great coach does – focusing on the long term goals, care about his players’ health so their career can be prolonged.

  • sport

    Does this mean no Lin on Wednesday? I was sure he’d be back by Wednesday for Celtics game. Maybe they’ll announce it on the day?

  • sport

    If that was the catch Cliff wouldn’t have started him at all. He only chose to start Lin when Batum was out but not along side Batum and Walker. That’s cause he didn’t want Lin to get in the way of signing Batum or getting the “franchise player”, Walker unhappy. Cliff was playing politics and a yes man. That’s why I didn’t like him and when he said that “Lin’s been a bench player his entire NBA career” that made me mad.

  • KHuang

    Adminstration, why are members here blocked from using the pejorative term “s c r u b”?

    Sure it’s highly insulting and derogatory when used on a NBA player. But it’s also TRUE most of the time.

    “S c r u b” is NOT PROFANITY. So why can’t we use that term here?

  • joy

    My guess is he’ll miss another 2-3 games. KA is playing safe which is wise. We’ll just have to wait patiently.

  • takeme2cruz

    He was ready despite being used very limited but STILL, that hamstring did occurred.

    AK and the Nets are starting to annoy me.

  • joy

    Lin in his recent Chinese interview said, “I’ve been able to run and jump slowly… slowly recovering and still in the assessment.” This tells he’s not 100% back to himself.

  • takeme2cruz

    That interview was days old and he has been running. I don’t know but this just gets so frustrated.

  • guest

    The real reason Lin was moved to shooting guard on previous teams was due to his ability to shut down their so called starters in team practice, let alone outshine them in his natural position. Lin better incorporate an easy stretching routine throughout normal life besides just at practice. He has chronic lower back and hamstring issues, due to tight hamstrings and possibly weaker quads.

  • joy

    You’re not alone. Many Lin fans in Taiwan are anxiously to see Lin play too. It is frustrating!

  • Brent Yen

    When this site was built….this particular word is basically banned. We did see it has been used from time to time, but still it is not a word we wanted to be used here. Just use more positive (what am I drinking?) or at least neutral words, e.g. average, not good, bad…….. Not sure who was blocked tho……I did not see it

  • guest

    Jeremy Lin (hamstring) was spotted going through a hard 45-minute workout during Monday’s practice.

    Mon, Nov 21 Rotoworld
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4795/

  • YellowClaw

    Agreed

  • Maknusia

    If I remember correctly, during that interview, we here ran some stats…and the number was close to 50/50 (start vs bench)…so its was not far off

  • sport

    KA has been annoying me with his strict minutes, bad random lineup, and rotations. If they didn’t have draft picks, I’d seriously think they were secretly tanking.

  • Maknusia

    I dont think they are tanking…just bcoz there is no incentive for it

  • sport

    Just feels like they are tanking for so called development which is BS. You are obviously not developing the right players and offense if you’re losing every game and giving up before the very end.

  • sport

    Did you watch last 2 games? Bennett contributed better than RHJ! Bennett showed off some post moves and scored as well as made a 3 with confidence! When was the last time RHJ made an actual FG before charging aimless at the rim and missing with an ugly attempt 90% of the time? The only Thing RHJ can sort of due is cut to the basket, he can’t shoot to save himself nor create shots for himself.

  • sport

    KHuang I agree with everything you just said! He’ve been trying to say the same things regarding the players that should be starters and those who shouldn’t! Move Bog to SF and start Harris or experiment with McCullough as starter. WIth McCullough athletiic and shooting abilities and height advantage he should either be starting or getting 6th man type o minutes. When Lin’s not PG, Bog should be the main ball handler for the starting team, definitely not Foye, RHJ, or Whithead. Whitehead can be the backup PG and play with Kilpatrick as SG.

  • sport

    “lucky?” He “is” in the Nets rotation since the beginning of the season and we kept asking WHY? KA Why? It’s as clear a day that RHJ needs to go to D League. The way i see it, since the beginning KA’s had to infatuation with bad players. He didn’t let go of Vasquez until he got injured and I’m sure it was the Nets FO decision not his. Imagine if Vasquez didn’t get injured?! How long would we have to endure his unmotivated playing and hurt on the team?

    Seriously do we have to wait for RHJ and Foye to both be injured before KA can see they are not the players who should being playing on the team at all?!

  • Joe what do you know

    Does anybody remember what the clauses are for JLin to get his bonus under his contract? I remember there being a minimum game played clause, it now looks like he might very well lose that part of the bonus… He has already missed 8 games.

  • Maknusia

    As you mentioned its not profanity but its derogatory…thats not what we stand for here…lets whisky whisk things positively

  • Maknusia

    The scary stats that prove how much the Nets need Jeremy Lin

    The Nets aren’t saying when injured Jeremy Lin will be able to play again. But it can’t be soon enough. They were 2-3 with their starting point guard, but have lost six of eight without him. And the advanced statistics tell an even grizzlier story.

    With Lin on the court, the Nets’ offensive rating is a 109.3 and their defensive rating is 107.4, for a respectable plus-1.8. But without their floor leader, their ratings change to 103.6 and 109.0 for a terrible minus-5.7.

    In short, Lin’s presence is worth 7.2 points every 100 possessions. That’s a game-changer, and his absence since Nov. 2 has been just that for the Nets.

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/the-scary-stats-that-prove-how-much-the-nets-need-jeremy-lin/

  • Maknusia

    http://thebrooklyngame.com/straining-issues-problem-jeremy-lins-hamstring/

    Good article…gives you better perspective on the hamstring injury and how long one could take….

    ….

    Unfortunately, the Nets are at the mercy of Lin’s muscles, as hamstring recovery is an issue of finicky time. Unlike, say a broken finger or twisted ankle, the start-and-stop nature of basketball makes it tough to tell. Although physical therapy and stretching exercises are key, the best advice for a strained hamstring calls for getting rest, icing the area, and taking anti-inflammatory help like Advil.

    From Chris Erskine’s article in The Los Angeles Times following the aforementioned Paul injury, he noted:

    Michael Vick, Lionel Messi, LeBron James have all struggled with strains and tears. Fickle and merciless, hamstring problems recur with agonizing frequency — the re-injury risk is 12% to 31%, the Columbia study found.

    And therein lies the biggest issue of all: reinjury.

    If you think the water is choppy now, imagine how treacherous the sea becomes without Lin for the remainder of the season. Could you imagine the disappointment if he came back too early, reinjured his hamstring, and then required surgery? Remember how dreadful the final six games of 2015-2016 were after Sean Marks shut down Brook Lopez and Thaddeus Young? Well, this would be worse, particularly so if it occurred even before Christmas. The precious Celtics’ draft swap that everybody is worried about sacrificing suddenly becomes far more desirable should the Nets lose Lin indefinitely.

    The moral of the story, then, is patience.

  • Barry Allen

    Well Dirk gave a discount to the Mav for years in order to get more talent into Dallas.

  • Barry Allen

    Clifford definitely didn’t play Lin enough. If he did the Hornets would have beat Miami and got to the next round of the playoffs. Instead, Kemba goes 3-16 (18.8%) for 9 pts and shoots the Hornets out of the playoffs in Game 7.

  • golfhacker

    Can you please block posts with unnecessary caps lock usage?

  • KHuang

    OK Adminstration, thank you!

    I’m satisfied!

  • KHuang

    Sounds good!

  • KHuang

    NAH!

  • Spot

    Great video by Speed of Lin. That’s why Nets defence has become a shamble after Jeremy’s injury

    https://youtu.be/3OphJ3V8MiQ

  • David Kim

    Blazers score 18pts by pick and roll play in third qt..
    Not sure pick and roll play is predictable….
    I think lin and lopez runs more pick and roll plays when lin comes back..

  • Acbc

    I had to pull out of a finals of one of our club doubles tournament after winning the first set ( years ago, lol). Everyone was disappointed, including our opponent’s pride. They were widely expected to beat us handily. It’s like everyone says, a hamstring injury isn’t one you play on or you risk a much longer term recovery.

  • Acbc

    I guess this guy thinks that “Lin’s done” with the Nets, lol

    It must suck to be part of the microwave generation. Everything is now, now, now with no plan for any future.

  • Acbc

    Andre Agassi in his final great years with wife Steffi Graf inked a deal with Adidas/ Head in which it included a sizeable donation to their charity and Agassi’s now famous charter school in Los Vegas.

    There’s many ways for both sides coming up smelling like roses. The obscene amount of money that will benefit the people of NewJersey will further grow their franchise TOGETHER. It would allow both sides to save face and Lin gets his monetary stamp of approval that so many seem to think is so important. I’m sure Lin has his sights on very little of thie worldly goods we seem to hold so dear.

  • Acbc

    So true, snake oil salesman mentality. What’s sad is that there is yet another sucker born every minute.

  • takeme2cruz

    All patience have its limit. Over patience will lead to too late situation.

  • takeme2cruz

    If lin feels fine the following day, it’s time to unleash.

  • Maknusia

    cant do much if the body is not ready…been there done that…chances of recurring is high if you dont let it heal, unlike, joint pains

    ps. it took me 3 months to get back to full recovery mode after my second injury…no one wanna go thru that

  • Maknusia

    lol….on and off…it fun….hahaha…variety is good

  • takeme2cruz

    Every situation is different. You probably didn’t have world class doctors and a master flying from Taiwan to treat you and to monitor you daily. Lin was seen going through hard practice yesterday for 45 minutes. If his body shows no reaction today, he should play tomorrow.

  • Maknusia

    lol…if you are so adamant to your point…so be it…cheers

  • YellowClaw

    more like 5/6

  • YellowClaw

    unless, of course if the Nets are trying to tank then they will take forever

  • takeme2cruz

    I feel you spot, it comes to the point that we have watch lin highlight video now instead of live game.

  • psalm234

    Linsanity Lives On 2016: A Jeremy Lin Tribute Film
    https://twitter.com/hawj44/status/801001194743328768

  • psalm234

    Speed of Lin: Episode 2 Defense in the 3rd Qtr by @SpeedofLin:disqus
    An in depth look at how the Portland Trailblazers were able to break down the Nets’ defense and how Brooklyn might be able to improve going forward.

  • psalm234

    Good article exposing the 12%-31% re-injury risk of hamstring strains and tears.

    I want to see Lin play very soon but I can be patient if the Nets and Lin want to make sure he’s 100% ready.
    If Lin is sidelined multiple times throughout the season because of coming back too early, that would be a lot harder to swallow.

    The positive thing is all the Nets media recognizes the importance of Lin (the 2-3 record WITH and 2-6 WITHOUT)

  • psalm234

    🙂 how long were you sidelined with your hammie injury?

  • psalm234

    true, the enthusiasm built up in early season is waning now with blowout losses. They really need to discover the tough, gritty defense that has disappeared

  • psalm234

    Kemba is a good guy and a great scorer but yeah, he doesn’t have Lin’s innate court-vision 🙂

    It’s really a win-win. Kemba and Clifford can be happy in Charlotte while Lin is destined to make his mark in greater Brooklyn/NY area

  • psalm234

    agree 100%

    the last thing we want is Lin has a chronic hammie injury throughout the season. Hard to be patient but patient we must be … #Yodastyle

  • GoJLin!

    Lin need to play at least 61 games, that means be able to miss 21 games the most. Wish him speedy recovery and completely healthy afterwards!

  • aggressiveplayer

    My bad, I forgot to take subtract that from 1.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Exactly. I don’t understand why people on here are so caught up with winning this season when that’s NOT the main goal of the Nets. Everyone complains about how much “player development” is going on when they’re just upset that Brook and Lin aren’t getting more minutes and aren’t running their strengths. Truth is, their strengths are not enough if you just keep running the same sort of plays every time. It’s easily counterable. If you only rely on those two players to impact the game, then how many weapons will the Nets have in the future? Not much, because they didn’t plan for it.

    I understand that Lin is getting old now, but this is what he signed into and I’m going to continue supporting him, regardless of whether he wins 50+ games or not.

  • aggressiveplayer

    We just couldn’t defend the pick and roll when they ran it.

  • aggressiveplayer

    Get well soon Lin.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I sadly agree with you here…Remember, we do not know the level of Lin’s strains and I believe it’s a mild one but the Nets probably don’t care and were already set to force Lin to sit back for a long period.

    When Chris Paul went down with his hamstring injury, it was a more severe type in which he had to be helped off the floor…Lin wasn’t and the type of pain where he had to be helped by teammates to get off the floor…

    and when Lin came back, you really couldn’t notice any type of limping…This suggest Lin suffered the mildest type of strain and from my understand, these mild strain can keep you out for an leverage of 1 to 2 week…Players have been known to come back within a week from them….

    So when you consider how durable Lin has been throughout his career, I now believe Lin has already been 100% after 2 week, but the Nets protocol on injuired players is forcing him to take an extra 1-2 weeks of rest, no matter what.

    If you look at the way they are handling Lopez minutes + the way no one on the team can play 30 minutes, that right there is enough to accuse them of being overly cautious with Lin injury.

    Now, if I’m wrong, it’s their own fault since they are so secretive about the injury severity…It is clear to everyone that Lin suffered the mildest type of strain…This wasn’t a severe type that could leave him out for a month, but I fear it really doesn’t matter for these overly cautious people.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • aggressiveplayer

    Jeremy has that “what’s happening?” look.

  • aggressiveplayer

    It’s not being overly cautious. The mild strain can take up to 2 weeks to heal, yet it is recommended to take 3 weeks off before getting into rigorous physical activities like sports. If the Nets rest him for 3-4 weeks that’s definitely fine and not overly cautious. Rest him for any more than 4 weeks then I would say it’s overly cautious. Also, Lopez’s minutes might be due to him recovering from plantar faciitis, which can be reoccuring.

  • Acbc

    There isn’t any point in preaching patience when there’s only mental patients in wait. Lol

  • Spot

    Unfortunately, that’s not even a Lin highlight :'(

  • Spot

    Exactly

  • KHuang

    Atkinson as an inexperienced head coach, he’s fronting the ball with two players at all times.

    The problem is that opposing coaches are spreading the court against Atkinson’s simplistic scheme.

    In the NBA, one has to vary his pick and roll coverage based on the opponent. Any set defensive scheme will be dissected and then roasted.

    When Lin returns, he’ll quarterback the defense, especially in maneuvering his teammates into a loose zone that can react to any type of offensive action.

  • Dan cohen

    OH ZAMMMMMMMMM!!!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Are you aware that not all pulled hamstring are the same??..The Nets never told us the severity of Lin’s injury and I believe there is a reason why.

    The more severe types are the one that can keep you out for up to a month or more…the mildest type is 2 weeks at most…..Of course, the Nets can get away with bringing Lin back whenever they like since we do not know what level of strain he suffered.

    You nor I have no idea what’s going on, unless you are 100% convinced Lin suffered something more severe than the mild pulled.

    If Lin had suffered something higher, he would have been a much more pain than he showed when he got injured…I gave you the example of Chris Paul and his injury during last year playoff…We knew it was not a mild strain because Paul had to be helped off the floor.

    Lin, on the other hand, was able to continue playing even after he pulled his ham-strain…A person who suffers a higher grade strain, will not be able to even run or move anymore.

    But hey, I get it that you want to give them the full benefit of the doubt…I’ve seen enough from them to know that their model is overly-cautious and it will be that way, which I understand.

    Since winning is not the main priority, it does makes perfect sense to add extra rest time for injured player coming back from injury.

    This also allows them to give more time to their younger players…Kenny had clearly stated that Lin injury is great opportunity to give the younger guys more minutes.

  • takeme2cruz

    He said no time table for lin to come back really bothered me.

  • aggressiveplayer

    For all the reasons you said, I’m assuming this is a mild injury as well. That’s why I think if we go over 4 weeks it’ll be overcautious.

  • Acbc

    Not long, 2 weeks because I stopped pretty much immediately and walked off court. Mostly after returning to the court, I just stood and fed balls, played social hit and giggle stuff. Back then, I could loaf around and get away with it. I doubt if I would come back if I was competing.

  • joy

    Lin looks sleepy. lol

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The reason they do not want to give a time table is exactly so that they could get away with keeping him out for longer than expected.

    It is also the same reason why they’ve refused to tell us the grade level of the strain…Every pulled hamstring has a grade-level and an expected time-table for full recovery…

    Not giving us this crucial information means they can keep Lin out indefinitely and tell us Lin is not 100% healthy

  • Arsenium12 .
  • CJSHYY

    Lakers beat OKC & NYK beat Portland??? Hope Nets can catch up ASAP. Luke is really good …. a lot better than I thought….

  • aggressiveplayer

    Oh dear… we’re getting further and further behind and really are looking like one of the worst teams in the league like the image people have of us. We need to win tomorrow, with or without Lin.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I really want to see KA do more than just developing young. Needs to fight to the end not always gave up in 4Q. smh!

  • aggressiveplayer

    He is fighting. But if the game gets too far out of reach he’ll rest the guys. Let’s face it, it’s very hard to come back down 15+ points in the 4th quarter when the momentum has never been there.

  • CJSHYY

    Their problem started from 3Q since preseason…. he should do something about it …..

  • aggressiveplayer

    Since we’ve had some time finally at home to practice, I expect us to look better in this game vs the Celtics.

  • CJSHYY

    The problem is not home game it’s our coach needs to fix 2nd half lousy play….

  • spiderman

    Seems Lakers are finally making some waves now that Byron and Kobe are gone.

    Impressed by Luke Walton

  • CJSHYY

    Luke is really good coach. I thought he’s OK but he’s good.

  • aggressiveplayer

    No I meant we finally had some time to practice since we’re at home. On the road we had no time to practice, probably just watched film.

  • CJSHYY

    Got it. But If he doesn’t fix problem we sure will loss tomorrow. smh!

  • aggressiveplayer

    Takes time good sir

  • zxcvb

    It’s a long season. As long as Lin STAYS healthy when he comes back, the Nets will easily get out of the bottom tier. Even last year, the Hornets lost 9 of 10 to go from 17-13 to 18-22. But then they recovered.

  • occupatio

    nets are for the most part unwatchable without lin.

    aside from not having lin to watch lately, it’s very unfortunate that he’s been out of the spotlight and out of the conversation this entire stretch. I think this hamstring injury could kill his chances of getting enough all-star votes this season. it’s coming up quite soon.

  • CJSHYY

    If they are not in playoff then he can’t make it to ASG. Unless he gets enough votes….

  • occupatio

    those two timelines are unrelated. no one can know the playoff cutoff at the midpoint in the season which is when the ASG is decided.

  • CJSHYY

    Last year, Kemba & IT both wanted to make it to ASG but IT got it bc Celtics had better record than Hornets at that time.

  • occupatio

    thats a bit different. IT was coach’s pick. lin will not get the coach’s pick, but will have to get it with fan votes.

  • CJSHYY

    If he can get into top 2… he needs to beat Lowry & Wade at least. Nets is not NYK so… we needs to do more

  • aggressiveplayer

    Thanks for the positive notes.

  • Steppen03

    No Worries. I’ll leave this season’s success to Higher Power. I have faith in God taking care of JL7 – more than ever before. My take is still the same since the beginning – a 40+ win season. A winning season.
    All stars or not, I’ll put it aside for now, it’s team success that will Make the Difference for me!

    I higher recommend going out and catch Hacksaw Ridge and Arrival in theaters – Very Awesome!

  • joy

    Yes, when Lin is ready to go, I’m sure he’ll surprise everyone!!

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I predicted about 40 wins, but I did not fathom them to be so cautious.

  • Vincent

    come on we should atleast hear something about when lin will return… even the spurs give a timeline on their injured players

  • Guest

    OT but I must get it out of my chest:

    Luke Walton is no doubt the key to the Lakers’ stellar records thus far. Steve Kerr is somewhat overrated.

    And Luke Walton is much much better looking than Chandler Parson. If not for the Lin-factor, that CP wouldn’t have landed lucrative deals from the Mavs and Griz. He was never a true friend of Lin!

  • Guest

    opps, get it off my chest!!!

  • Barry Allen
  • norah mackenzie

    you think that luke walton is better looking than cp? you are so wrong – and why do you think that cp isnt a true friend to lin?

  • norah mackenzie

    the mavs arent doing too well either that makes me very happy

  • Maknusia

    lol….the fan!

  • Acbc

    The biggest problem with a new team is that there is steep learning curve to gain chemistry and knowing what one another will do. When it becomes instinct then it gels into something miraculous.

    Talent would help as well because when a system breaks down to one o one, pure talent will defeat any system half the time. That’s why Lin is the glue to the team.

    Unlike other teams with system in place and with chemistry, second half adjustments can be made. With the Nets, that’s simply like asking a trotter whose raced “galloping” left to all of a sudden go right, especially when it’s only just learning to do so. It’s not going to happen.

    It’s like I keep saying, even super teams don’t win championships in their first year together, let alone a basement team like the Nets. It takes time and patience and a willingness to not panic by sticking to a long term game plan to build from the foundations up. Without a system, there is only chaos. Lin was injected into a team with a system in place in NYK but no one was able to run it. That’s why linsanity happened.

    As a coach, I know that you must first find the bottom keystone to build from. It’s the fix that must happen before anything else can be done. It doesn’t matter what sport it is, it has its own foundational fix and you must find that first. YOU MUST BE PATIENT AND NOT DEVAITE FROM IT NO MATTER HOW GOOD IT LOOKS. I’ve been guilty of pushing to the next level too fast when the muscle memories and instincts haven’t been set and having to go back 2 steps because of wanting to move ahead.

    The Nets will continue continue to struggle in the 3rd because they can’t make adjustments because they don’t have much wiggle room while opponents with chemistry can. All we can do is keep hoping they get it sooner rather than later.

    The flip side is that this losing streak without Lin will hopefully build their system in so that when Lin comes back, he can make a linsanity run just like 2012. CAN WE SAY GRANDE DESIGN….?

  • Maknusia

    magna design it is!

  • CJSHYY
  • YellowClaw

    because the Nets are not trying to win
    They are holding Lin out for as long as they can

  • Dorothy

    x1000

  • DX

    OK, skip one more.

  • takeme2cruz

    $@#!^&^!.

  • takeme2cruz

    There’s only one biggest problem in one word, DEFENSE.

  • Dan cohen

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • psalm234

    new G14 thread

    G14 Brooklyn Nets (4-9) Needs to Rediscover Defense vs Boston Celtics (8-6)
    http://www.jlinportal.com/g14-nets-vs-celtics/
    KEY OF THE GAME: The Nets simply has to find a way to play the gritty defense to contest every shot and not allow opponents to shoot >50% shooting if they hope to stop the losing streak.

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/801503189728043009

  • psalm234

    Brooklyn is allowing 113.3 points per game overall but in this skid, the Nets have allowed 126.2 points per game and no fewer than 27 points in the 12 quarters. Besides the points, the Nets allowed opponents to shoot at least 50 percent in three of those games and are among the worst defensive teams in shooting percentage and other areas.

    “It’s been consistent for the past four games. It’s just different teams, but we’ve been the same,” center Brook Lopez said. “A lot of it’s the same. It’s not any one person, glaringly obvious. It’s just team-wide, whatever it is. I don’t think you can fault our effort or energy. … It’s a team-wide situation we need to figure out.”

    KEY OF THE GAME: The Nets simply has to find a way to play the gritty defense to contest every shot and not allow opponents to shoot >50% shooting if they hope to stop the losing streak.

    Let’s hope and pray JLin will come back soon to help the Nets get back on the winning track, and most importantly finish the game healthy!

    Let’s go, JLin and the Nets!

  • Steppen03

    Yes, I agree. I think it Can be something wonderful and even magical when JL7 come back and start where he left off except this time around the team is more prepared to take off and hold the fort.