G04 LAL@GSW Game Thread+New Chat

This is the 4th game for the Lakers in 5 nights. Fatigue would be a factor so it would almost a miracle if the Lakers can pull off a win. This is what usually is called a “schedule loss”. A loss because the packed schedule is not favoring one team.

Will Lin be able to repeat its 17pts/9asts performance by running the offense? Let’s hope so and Lakers will stay healthy.

  • The Los Angeles  Lakers play on the 2nd night of a back to back for the 2nd straight time. The Lakers have 16 back-to-backs this season which is tied for the least of all 30 NBA teams.
  • Kobe Bryant is leading the Lakers in scoring with a 23.7 points per game average.
  • There is a big drop off scoring-wise from Kobe to number 2 on the list Jordan Hill who is averaging 12 points per game; however, there is some balance as Lakers have 6 players total averaging double figures: Ed Davis 11.7, Carlos Boozer 10.0, Wayne Ellington 10.0 and Jeremy Lin 10.0.
  • The Lakers have been having a hard time defending the 3-point shot in their first 3 games where teams are averaging 13.3 3-point makes per game and shooting 42.6 percent from 3.
  • Defending the 3 will be very important tonight playing against Klay Thompson and the Warriors. Thompson averaged 22.5 points in 4 games against the Lakers last season which included 15 for 31 from 3.
  • Last season the Warriors torched the Lakers from deep, averaging 12.3 makes out of 26.3 attempts from the 3-point line.

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  • blubell

    First!

  • blubell

    Let’s hope our bigs take advantage of Lee’s absence.

  • JoeTeam

    David Lee is not a tough inside man, as far as I can see. I wouldn’t call him soft, but he’s not tough. So, missing him won’t help too much. Not sure.

  • JoeTeam

    I hope today, KT is emotionally relieved with his contract and will not have a great shooting night. Don’t get me wrong, I love GSW. But, I want the Lin/Kobe duo to have a hard-won win so they can keep building on that chemistry.

  • joyce ward

    I wanted to re post this from the other thread:

    I have to say that God could not have chosen a better mentor for lin than Kobe. I say God because I really do believe Lin landing on the Lakers was a destiny tract for him. There is a passage in the bible that states, God says if you can be faithful over the small things, I will make you ruler over much. I believe that Houston was lin’s small things because he had to sacrifice his game for someonelse, and he never complained. He just got better every year. I believe that LA is his ruler over much. Scott/Kobe have given him the keys to the offense to run the show. Kobe is the perfect mentor for lin because he will be hard on him and challenge him everyday. The thing about kobe is that he grew up in Europe (his dad played professional basketball overseas) and he didn’t have the so called “African American” upbringing. He was a foreign kid who came to the US and was mostly ostracized in school because he was labeled “he wasn’t black enough”. Kobe probably knows that is what lin has felt like in this league. Also, you have to know that Kobe sees himself in lin because I think they are just alike in many ways. So this season of the Lakers will have it’s ups and downs, but I am stilled excited that lin gets to learn how to “put on his big boy panties ” from one of the best teachers in the league.

  • joyce ward
  • JoeTeam

    Lin never complained, but his brother did. I wonder if his parents or Lin told him to remove that tweet. So right, what you say, that HOU was little and Lin had the big picture faith in God and calm inside. I’m sure he learned over and over how it is, like broken ankle, no college scholarship, no draft, D-league, 2 cuts, etc. that HOU was just a speed bump.

    Your post highlights contrast to all those with little faith. You are a faithful person, and so is Lin. I shall continue to try …

  • JoeTeam

    WJ was the weak link during the end-game yesterday. He and the refs …

  • joyce ward

    I am just one of those people who truly believe that the power of your life in his in the words that you speak out of your mouth. Your words frame your world. If you speak only of negative things, then that is what you will receive in life.If you think positive thoughts and and continue to believe nothing is impossible, you have won half the battle right.

  • JoeTeam

    I read once that the vocabulary you have influences how you think, what you can think about. The mouth is the next thing, as it convicts your thinking … very nice what you say about speaking to the positive. It sure can go inward too, as well as get socialized.

  • joyce ward

    Also joe Team, i refuse to give anybody power over my life where they will determine the kind of day I will have. I always tell my employees that when they walk in the font door to go to work, put their game faces on, because whatever bad thing that happened to you on your way to work will not have a negative output on the job that you were hired for.

  • JoeTeam

    You and your spirit here would be amazing to be with in an organization! I learn from you and all our great posters. This is what makes it worth being a part of this community. Thanks to psalm, brent and others, we can have a respite from how bad it got in the unmoderated world.

  • JoeTeam

    New chat box looks promising. Last night, I could not sign into portal so just had to disqus comment. The new chat box, if it works:

    I would like to ask the bball pros to call out the plays they see so I and others can start to see the structure of the systems they run. Me, I’m sorry I cannot contribute to that, I’m more a gym player.

  • joyce ward

    You too, I love your wisdom and candor. I learn a lot from your posts because somebody will touch on the tip of something and you take it to another level giving examples of how it has been done. So i really have learned alot from you in that aspect, and I really respect your opinions. you still are my favorite poster crush .❤

  • joyce ward
  • joyce ward
  • JoeTeam

    Aw, Joyce, I big LOL hug on that one. I thank you and graciously/humbly accept your compliment.

    I dunno, I just try to share the passthrough learning because that’s what Lin ball is about. My personal journey is reaching the heights of boards by 31, and like Kobe or Lin, knowing my immigrant self, I didn’t belong with those people with secret back room power and biases. You can’t judge any group harshly, but I can attest back in the day, I heard plenty of racial and gender slurs and I could not continue to be an insider being that I’m myself a genuine person who strives from D-league, from the immigrant position that I know makes a big difference to the people in the center all of us to strive. I used to think … “what I my, the invisible “good” minority? Are you testing my ability to join you? (I could not)”

    So, Lin, you, others here who are the real deal … that’s my community. And, we can make a difference, seeings how Lin is doing it. It inspires …

    (finally, I don’t usually talk about faith, because I myself try not to do that to give everyone around me freedom of faith. I did grow up in church, and family members are born again. It’s all good and alright with me … I just don’t express it as a respect for other’s views, beliefs, etc. because my born again family members push it too hard. I have if you can imagine how funny this looks, had laying on of hands for 6 hours once. I came away quite tired 🙂 but relieved I was able to make others happy.

  • JoeTeam

    The difference is trust … people trusted Curry with the shot, with the ball. This year is Lin’s first year he has the trust, and we are seeing it come alive in front of our eyes.

  • joyce ward

    I get it, i grew up in that church based christian faith, which I have discovered has nothing to do with the real God, who I serve. He is forgiving, understanding and faithful, so to this day, i have abandoned my family’s church views on christian beliefs because it has too many rules and many Christians are hiding because they can’t live up to these rules.

  • joyce ward

    Yep, exactly…

  • joyce ward

    Also, did you see the playoff history of 35 and they still don’t make it out of the 1st or 2nd round.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Thumbs up. Just update the panties to pants, LOL.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, the rules make it hard to be a real person loving others and God. In find I have to constantly adjust in Christian ways even with Christians. Life has a way to throw curve balls, and dogmatic rules had hard to employ.

    Someone once said to me … ‘God doesn’t drive parked cars.” So, we have to pull it out of the garage and drive it ourselves, and then he’s there with us …

    I love Lin’s desire to help LA see God, his last prayer request, and I’m guessing that’s Linsanity mode and not the norm of what can be achieved lol. It really does show his different levels of goal setting, though, so it’s good to have faith in the man on simple things like bball and his NBA career.

  • joyce ward

    I guess you can say pants, but the term used was in reference to a girl. so big boy pants is right..Thanks☺

  • joyce ward

    LOL, that is the problem with most christian churches that they think that need to help God. I also agree that if Lin stays focused when kobe is being hard on him and challenging him, he will come out of this with an attitude of how become a champion, because he has been taught by one of the best.

  • JoeTeam

    If you mean GSW, yes. We haven’t had good post season since Rick Barry days, I think. Lacob’s new ownership with Peter Gruber seems to be moving GSW forward, and this year’s team is strong. Lynchpin is Bogut’s health, I think because we don’t have a good answer to the big man, PF depth. We’ll see.

    Financially, GSW will be strong too with the 2016 new ad revs, plus the SF arena development project. So watch for GSW to become better contenders. The Busses have a good pedigree and can build around Lin to head that off, and for me, it would be spectacular if GSW, LAL, SAS grow in the NBAs and fans’ esteem for the next decade. I like the way these teams play. I don’t like the way Lebron’s teams play, and of course HOU. I don’t like the big 3 theory because the game has 5 plus bench play is key to stay in contact with or even crush an opponent.

    If LAL and GSW continue to strengthen, I’ll have to make more money to bring kids to games 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    Yes, follow Kobewan in bball and put his saved energies to saving LA 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    btw, LA has so many good Chinese churches Lin would love. Back in the day, people would drive from Bay Area to visit LA Chinese churches … just sayin’

  • orLinaryjoe

    Saw the 3s
    Kobe sharing
    the floaters
    offensive scheme
    Lin to the challenge

    Guess the only big thing missing from Lakers, is just that, a great “big”.

  • joyce ward

    LOL..

  • Per HY C’s request, I added Biaiyan’s latest highlights to the Video Gallery on homepage
    Thanks, @HY C!

  • Yes, plus more transition offense, more 3pt shooters (Swaggy+Ryan Kelly).
    And most importantly 3pt defense (esp. against GSW)

  • joyce ward

    How do the Lakers defend GSW 3 point shooting?

  • Arsenium12 .

    It’s only by taking a moment to look back that it becomes clear what a dramatic and fluid time this is for Lin. I don’t know where things are going to end up, but I was struck to read these quotes from the SI article by Ben Golliver, published just 4 days ago:

    “[Being named starter] is more like a game-to-game thing than a permanent thing,” Lin told SI.com by telephone on Sunday, a few hours after learning the news from the media. “I know how fast things can change. … If [coming off the bench] is what the team needs, I’ve shown I’ll make sacrifices.”

    and

    Lin believes his time with Harden has prepared him for life with Bryant. “I challenged myself to become a multidimensional player because James was ball-dominant,” Lin said. “I became a better spot shooter, a better cutter, and I got better at moving without the ball.”

    See : http://www.si.com/nba/2014/10/28/jeremy-lin-kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers

  • Rick Johnson

    Poorly

  • cdblue10

    The only way that they can defend the Warriors 3 point shots is to pay attention w/ their set picks since that’s the only way they create spaces and free up their shooters.Lin and Kobe are almost at the same height same as Thompson and Curry so there is shouldn’t be a problem in switching w/ their man.At the post the only problem would only Bogut since Lee was on injury list and I think Davis/Hill/Boozer can contain him.The only big disparity on this game would be the SF since Johnson can’t guard Iggy.

    While from the Warriors side they will be surprise w/ the offense of Lakers since they are not expecting where the offense would be coming from since they would only be focusing on Kobe at this game.The Lakers can pull out a win tonight as long as they will pay attention w/ their man and continue to build up what they’ve started last night at the offensive end.

    Let’s get the W tonite Lakers!

  • cdblue10

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2252674-kobe-bryant-praises-jeremy-lin-warns-lakers-not-to-be-chumps-and-pushovers?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

    I’m totally surprised w/ BR for their positive remarks for Jlin these days.I think they knew that Lin would put up big numbers and will play an important role as the second best player on this team.Keep it coming BR since this is Lin’s contract year.

  • cdblue10

    http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/40265/lakers-empower-lin-and-he-responds

    Another good article for Jeremy.I’m not used to this kind of treatment for our man from the last 2 years that he stayed in Houston.Everytime a column would come out you need to battle it out in the comment sections.I’m so glad since those days are gone.

  • Rick Johnson

    Librafree‏@Librafree
    After Game vs Clippers, @JLin7 said: I’m Going To Do More When I Feel Empowered. 湖人快艇賽後, 林書豪受訪時說: 當我被授權自主, 我就可以做更多

    https://twitter.com/Librafree/status/528696049670447104

  • joyce ward

    Good stuff…Thanks

  • Rick Johnson

    Eric PincusVerified account‏@EricPincus
    The Lakers have made Roscoe Smith, Keith Appling and Jabari Brown affiliate players with the D-Fenders – also back with team – Manny Harris

    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/528702957705900033

  • joyce ward

    Lin will be happy for them

  • joyce ward

    Hahaha!!

  • cdblue10

    I would love Roscoe to be on the 15th man roster since he seems to play well w/ Lin

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Approval by men. Empowered by divine.

  • Joseph Fung

    I like this site very much. What a pity that sometimes it has become a forum of religious gathering, praising God. If we could cut it down a bit, it would be perfectly tolerable. No pun intended.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Not asking for much. Baby steps, LOL. So how do we stopped the splash brothers with these starters? Rotate the quicker 2nd team in sooner?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    @psalm234 please have a look @Joseph Fung post. Thanks!

    Please read the rules in the home page before making this kind of statement whether it’s intended or not.

  • Rick Johnson

    Notice how JLin is the last one the leave the court and stays to congratulate and hug the Clippers. Good sportsmanship.

  • joyce ward

    Thanks for posting that and to be clear me and @Joe Team were discussing lin’s faith and our own personal experiences which is very relevant to the namesake of this site

  • Michael

    Almost down voted you. great restraint 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes I don’t see there is an issue at all of your discussion with Joe and I haven’t seen any “religious gathering” like @Joseph Fung claimed here. It’s a fair go of discussion between two posters about their own experiences of Christianity. Many of us root JLin because of his faith. I’m tempted to ban @Joseph Fung but believe I should make the rule clear first. If he offends the second time, I won’t hesitate to do so. To me this is really out of line.

  • Lam

    Just my 5 cents opinion, I think you are overreacting. A gentle reminder first if this is the first infraction of the forum rules would suffice. There’s a fine line between over policing and complete lack of moderation(as in the other site).

  • Joseph, while I understand some discussion on faith might cause uneasiness for those with different beliefs, let’s make a concerted effort to celebrate the differences positively.

    Let me reiterate our #1 vision in this site:

    About Us
    “Positively bringing together JLin fans”
    Build a community to enjoy interaction and positive discussion among Jeremy Lin fans.

    – See more at: http://www.jlinportal.com/g04-lalgsw-game-threadnew-chat/#sthash.HNx64QmV.dpuf

    Jeremy Lin’s background appeals to many people with different background (i.e. Chinese/Asians race, Asian-American background, Christians, underdogs, discriminated people, etc.). I would encourage everyone to be positive to celebrate the differences rather than focusing on the negatives. Otherwise, the discussion would quickly be filled with fights and disrespect. That’s what we try to avoid in this site. Let’s not just stop at tolerance but show appreciation of each others’ different background.

    I know many of big Lin fans here are not Christians (Brent Yen , webattorney , etc.) and we can respect one another. Christian faith is a large part of Jeremy Lin’s background and identity as evident in his current email subscription requesting for prayer support. So it can be part of the current discussion. I hope non-Christians can also support in their own ways with moral support or well wishes.

    I would be the first to reprimand people if any discussion turns to putting down other groups (Christians, non-Christians, Moslems, non-Chinese, etc.)

    Again, I would encourage everyone to focus on being positive to acknowledge and support other backgrounds. I would also encourage non-Christians to feel free to express the admiration of Jeremy Lin in positive ways. I hope you understand and continue to support our vision in this site.

    Note: If you have further questions, please feel free to PM me or email me so we can have good discussion. Thank you for your support!

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Don’t believe I’m overacting like u claim. That’s why I just remind him of the rules and request psalm to look at the post. Otherwise I would have ban him straightaway.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Select what you want to read. If you disagree with others’ comments simply skip over. In other words “No Comments” .

    Lets not impose on others. Like JLF said observe the rules. Otherwise it will erupt and becomes ugly.

  • Let’s be patient with one another. I created a post to implore many Lin fans to support the diversity rather than tearing one another down.

    Let us let love cover all offense 🙂

  • Lam

    Hear hear.

  • yes, Lam. We are trying to be patient with any concern. I don’t think @joseph_fung:disqus is breaking any rules, it’s just a voice of concern that definitely need to be addressed well.

    Thank you for your input 🙂

  • Lam

    well, if you look north of your country, you my have read how ridiculous the situation has gotten. That is why, its my instinctive response as to be a bit more forgiving unless the posters keep repeating the offence.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Agree.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Agree but really dislike when I exercise my patience but then was accused of being overreacting. That is quite annoy!

  • Lam

    Sorry if I annoyed you. Not my intention. Just providing some input but may have to phrase it better in the future.

  • Arsenium12 .

    This reminded me of Hubie Brown talking about how his teams defended Dirk Nowitzki:

    https://twitter.com/LakersReporter/status/528715219866877952

  • BobbyH

    Hear Hear Hear

  • BobbyH

    Does this image look familiar?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1YwSeRIYAAdt4I.jpg:small

    Jeanie Buss’s tweet with 17/24 jersey side by side. That makes you wonder.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks! We all need to exercise our “polite and respectful” here. Appreciate your reminder.

  • Did Jeanie tweet it? Wow, when the owner shows approval of the next possible ‘Chosen Heir’, that’s huge support!

  • Singapore BB Fan

    24/7

  • Michael

    Let’s hope they keep shooting those 5 pointers.

  • KL

    I always believed the best way to beat Curry is to make him defend Lin. Lin should run Curry into picks as much as possible. Setting a tough, bruising pick is a special skill. Asik and Tyson Chandler were really good at that. For the Lakers… I am not so sure who can set great screens.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    What do u think about this interaction between JLin & BS?
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/528708383684063232/photo/1

  • KL

    Maybe it’s “chosen backcourt” and not “chosen heir”? I dunno. But I definitely sense the front office’s support for Lin as a starter.

  • BobbyH

    Yes, before the game Lin started for Lakers in pre-season. Some said that Scott wanted to start Price but changed b/c the boss called.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I can’t see enough of this pic. Let’s see what to do with this pic:-)

  • BobbyH

    I think this will become a symbolic image for the years to come.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes no doubt about it. It’s all over in Taiwan newspaper.

  • BobbyH

    Not this pic. But another one.

  • BobbyH

    This marks a beginning. Very significant in every way.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    JLin fans love it so much!

  • Boss called? Kobe or Jeanie? :>

  • Yeah, Jeanie said in her welcoming JLin video they’ve been trying to get him for years… I think she’s telling the truth (either business or basketball reasons)

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    MC said the same in JLin’s media conference. So, they really meant what they said. Sure glad to hear that. Now I’m more firm to believe that Lakers is JLin home. They won’t develop him if he isn’t. Good for JLin and his fans!

  • sorry for the late notice, I just created the Voting booth in the post above.
    20 min before game time 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol continue with my sentiment of JLin to get at least 16/7 each game. Of course the higher the better:-)

  • sorry for the late notice, I just created the Voting booth in the post above.
    20 min

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    If anyone is interested to watch the game but has no access to. Here is one:
    http://nbaliveonline.tv/streaming/

  • Arsenium12 .
  • detso

    Jeremy, just keep shooting.

  • joyce ward

    That’s right keep shooting lin

  • Maknusia

    Its all good….happy to see LAL been more than fair thus far

  • SamC89

    My biggest concern for this game is that it’s a back to back while GS had a day to rest. Hope this means the older guys aren’t too tired.

  • JoeTeam

    hey bro, lighten up. If I can handle 6 hrs of getting my hands laid on in prayer to honor someone else in life, you can handle a little experience knowing how others experience religious stuff. For me, it’s not about telling anyone what or how to believe, but to make sense of how Lin takes his belief and moves mountains for himself. Then I can see if I can do it …

  • cheapjing

    thanks !!

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, what we talked about was genuine, not heavy handed, and human/humane. Let’s keep going …

  • Maknusia

    Yeah…I hv changed my Avatar as well! 🙂 cant resist

  • JoeTeam

    good rotations, but they can’t stop Curry or KT if they are hot, so they must stay calm and stay in contact or claw back with mid-Js to break GSW’s will to dominate if they are hot.

    So, it’s not any one thing but one of team spirit because you cannot stop a hot Splash bros.

  • JoeTeam

    Man, you got there first I love it.

  • Keys of The Game:
    1. 3PT Defense
    2. LIN Offense
    3. … (I forgot 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW! Thinking about changing mine to the back one but it sounds too crazy even to myself. Can’t make the move yet:-)

  • bolero

    Let see if Steve Kerr will underestimate Lin.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol thought u r much younger than me to forget this:-)

  • Boozer started well with a beautiful rainbow midrange jumper

  • 2-2 Lin outstretched hands caused Curry to miss

  • JoeTeam

    Lin nice D, nice pass for 3.

  • Maknusia

    are we gong neck to neck 3s with GSW?

  • 5-2 Lin’s 1st assist to wide-open Wes!

  • JoeTeam

    That’s Barnes, KL lite.

  • Lakers continued with great ball movement finding open shooters! Beautiful to watch!

  • Maknusia

    Is Lin competing with Ricky Rubio?!!! for assist?!! 🙂

  • 11-6 Lin finding Hill to who drained long jumper .. again. 2nd assist

  • Maknusia

    and now its time take his shot

  • joyce ward

    Don’t worry Kobe will remind him…LOL

  • cali7

    Lin being smart and making the extra pass.

  • cali7

    Nice hustle. Lin looked like he got fouled

  • JoeTeam

    LAL really keeping last night going, surprising GSW I feel.

  • Joseph Fung

    I really liked your posting before. I also understand religion helps a lot of people overcoming their hardships, physically and mentally. I also admired your courage and optimistic attitude toward life. But if any poster posted something you don’t like and you tend to “ban” that person from expressing his or her opinion right away, then your are abusing your “power” as a moderator. I don’t believe that you were excercising “patience” rather than expressing anger. I will not post again. Hope you’ll feel better.

  • JoeTeam

    Lin holding Steph I like it.

  • joyce ward

    Lin needs to put some points on the board

  • cali7

    Stu saying that Hill block was similar to DJ, but other guy keeping it straight. DJ hit Lin much harder.

  • JoeTeam

    yeah, he’s in his sensing mode. Figuring out how the game is going still. I don’t think he’s in a mode to start and take over yet, maybe will take 1-2 mos.

  • IsabeliJane*17

    I don’t see this site as like that.Feel free to leave anytime though if you don’t like it.No one will stop you.

  • joyce ward

    ok:)

  • JoeTeam

    And did DJ even touch the ball? When I saw the replays, I didn’t see him touch the ball but I could be wrong.

  • Maknusia

    as i said earlier…he needs to…everyone has 3-4 shots

  • cali7

    Agree. It is time to get some points.

  • cali7

    He should have at least 10 FGA. Hopefully.

  • JoeTeam

    notice he already delivered great D on Steph and then gave it to the right corner for an assisted 3? That’s where he’s working the game now, on D and assists.

  • JoeTeam

    There you go, he took one!

  • JoeTeam

    Hey IJ … what do you think of Arnel Pineda’s story? Lead singer for Journey. I just learned about it, and it seems Lin-like.

  • cali7

    Price and Davis in. Lin and Boozer out.

  • cali7

    Price can’t keep up with Curry…

  • cali7

    Good steal from Price.

  • SamC89

    Wow seems like no one is missing and they’re just trading buckets.

  • Does anyone have any problems loading the Game Thread?

  • SamC89

    On Disqus? Loading fine here.

  • JoeTeam

    no problem tonight, and is chat off?

  • cali7

    I did before the game, but not right now.

  • Brent Yen

    So quiet here

  • Lin not scoring yet 🙂

  • cali7

    GSW is always a concern because they can come back into the game so quickly with a couple threes. lakers can never let up.

  • joyce ward

    Can somebody please do the comments on what’s happening in the game?

  • Brent Yen

    He was sit for a mistake I guess

  • Brent Yen

    you are not watching?

  • joyce ward

    No, I get to nervous.LOL

  • ok, thanks.. just wondering if the Bottom Chat is causing issues.
    I’m having Chrome browser problem for a moment

  • Brent Yen

    LOL

  • IsabeliJane*17

    Hey Joe!Saw him perform live in his local band (not yet Journey front man).Guy has AMAZING voice.Yes his story has similarities with J’s.

  • there’s new chat on the bottom right corner.
    You need to click on ‘Public Chat’

  • Brent Yen

    LAL got 35……wow! just wow!

  • Love Lin

    just turned in… hows lin doing so far?

  • BobbyH

    62.5% shooting

  • AllKpop<3Ailee'sBoobies

    Ed Davis is so good

  • BobbyH

    Na, rest for closing.

  • cali7

    Pre-game comments from Worthy and Horry… Davis maybe should get more minutes.

  • kassiek

    They are playing as a team with confidence!

  • BobbyH

    I think Hills and Booze got words from Scoot, that if you don’t perform O&D, some one can will start.

  • cali7

    Warriors starters in?

  • Brent Yen

    Not good or bad, I just thought Lin would shoot more……

  • BobbyH

    Yes, more flow and more ball movement, empowered by kobe.

  • kassiek

    Lin and Kobe are discussing again 🙂

  • cali7

    3 more quarters. Let’s go Lin!

  • Maknusia

    he should have 12-15 FGA…LAL is expecting him as the second option in terms of board

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Didn’t have much chance from what I saw. He did have 1 or 2 overlook though.

  • Brent Yen

    LAL’s bigs are waking up

  • cali7

    Nice hustling!!

  • Cookiemole

    I wish I could watch, but I’m ah dinner with the gf’s mom and grandma. In fact, I should het off the phone before someone notices

  • Michael

    Maybe they thought going to bed would help…I have heard that theory before.

  • Brent Yen

    Price is playing with more energy! Let see how Lin respond after he comes in

  • cali7

    Good to have Ellington back.

  • BobbyH

    The bench plays with fire and moves the ball well.

  • Maknusia

    good to see, keeping the offensive rebound

  • SamC89

    This isn’t Houston ;p

  • Maknusia

    yeah…he needs to as a second option on the team; other than shooting, so far, good game for him

  • cali7

    Bench really playing well. We needed more from them yesterday.

  • cali7

    Too bad Davis missed both FTs

  • BobbyH

    The bench defense is better than the starter.

  • Maknusia

    wow…that was a good chase!

  • Brent Yen

    OMG LAL’s defense is airtight

  • BobbyH

    Maybe they are playing against bench. But still.

  • Rick Johnson

    Faster more exciting play too.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep they have done very well. I like it.

  • cali7

    Bench doing great defensively. Running and hustling.

  • Dorothy

    Hope Lakers will win this tonight.

  • BobbyH

    He will if needed. Now the team is shooting well across the board. Everyone contributes.

  • SamC89

    What’s funny is in the first quarter they were trading buckets. Now they are trading missed buckets!

  • SamC89

    Same, but I want to be selfish and hope they win with Lin scoring at least 10+.

  • cali7

    BS talking about when to switch in zone dependent on line-up

  • cali7

    Kobe and Boozer in.

  • That would be a big boost for them going forward

  • cali7

    Curry just ran by and away from Price

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    JLin continues to sit.

  • cali7

    Again, Curry getting away from Price

  • SamC89

    And things start to swing in GS favor…

  • Love Lin

    didnt see Q1, did he score?

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Why JLin still sits on the bench?

  • Lin not in yet.
    He needs to be aggressive to attack Curry otherwise he doesn’t “look” like he’s running the offense in Byron’s eyes

  • cali7

    Price has been good but Lin defends Curry better IMO.

  • SamC89

    He didn’t really get a chance but he did have 3 good assists. Hope to see more of him soon.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yeah Lin back in

  • SamC89

    I think Lin gets subbed in at a set time? Like around the 6 min mark?

    Edit: Nevermind, he’s back in.

  • BuzzerBeater

    Anyone know how many points Curry got on Lin?

  • Q2 6:48 Lin and Hill in
    Good!

  • JoeTeam

    Zoo … very touching story. You were there before the big break. I hope he’s a family man like he says. Seems classy how he would give the band lead back to Perry if he wanted it.

  • Great block by Hill!

  • not looking “aggressive” enough

  • SamC89

    Only 3 but that was with Lin being screened off with no help defense coming to his aid.

  • Dorothy

    yes.

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin should attack the rim and rack up some fouls on Bogut.

  • cali7

    Boozer and Kobe came in and the 10 point lead disappeared so quickly. Lin needs to score.

  • cali7

    14-0 run by GSW

  • cali7

    There was contact by Curry on the Lin 3 but no foul call says Stu

  • SamC89

    Ouch. GSW is scary like that.

  • Maknusia

    GSW had outscored by 10 points for the Q

  • Dorothy

    Lin please be more aggressive and get some points.

  • yeah, that’s the superstar call.
    Another reason stars get more calls since refs tend to think they would’ve made it

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    It is well too long. He took out with almost 7min to go in 1st and didn’t go in until almost 7 mark. Almost 11 minutes playing time.

  • Maknusia

    he needs to remember, when he is given the green light to shoot; in the eyes if NBA if one doesnt shoot, he is not being aggressive

  • Love Lin

    hes a lil cool tonite… gogo lin~~~

  • I hope Lin would be more aggressive to establish his scoring by attacking the rim.
    Is Lin tired?

  • SamC89

    Curry hacks Lin, no call. Lin breathes on Curry, a foul. Sigh…

  • Maknusia

    thats , called aggressive, and you get the calls

  • cali7

    Kobe’s shots have been short. Tired?

  • Brent Yen

    have to live with that….until Lin gets his status

  • BobbyH

    Lin has a tendency of covering the paint, looking over where the ball is going. And sometimes in doing so, he lost his man.

  • probably more tired than Lin.
    The difference is Kobe keeps shooting 🙂

  • SamC89

    Yeah, I’m surprised by how passive Lin is right now. Either he’s tired or just not feeling it yet.

  • kobe has to take his time

  • Maknusia

    they are at 55%!!! not good? LAL is 20%

  • SamC89

    Maybe. Lin’s shots have been a bit short too.

  • Love Lin

    mamba mentality.. fearless..

  • nice, tire curry down, make him defend

  • Maknusia

    he was forced to take tat shot, and I like it, even though he didnt sore…but he got the ast!
    Thats aggressive…he needs to keep that going!

  • Kobe expression on being called on travel: “Who me? I’ve never traveled since 1999” haha

  • Brent Yen

    WES loves to be trapped in the corner…..m…

  • SamC89

    If that’s the case maybe they should just let the bench play a bit more. Of course the bench was playing against the bench so not sure how they would do against GS starters.

  • very rushed. The passes were not pinpoint. Maybe tired legs

  • JoeTeam

    Livingston is why GSW weren’t around for Lin when HOU blinked.

  • cali7

    Hill with 3 fouls

  • JAD2456

    And a rebound!

  • cali7

    Davis in, Hill out

  • BuzzerBeater

    Jeremy needs to attack the crap outta the basket!
    I need him to get some points 😛

  • Maknusia

    YEAH!!! seriously….no kiddin, that is called aggressive and Lin needs to understand it, and its not just creating shots for his teammates

  • where’s that high pnr

  • SamC89

    Ouch. I think Kobe really is tired. Maybe he should sit for awhile.

  • cheapjing

    seems sloppy

  • Great!.. That’s the 1st time Lin attacked the basket tonight.
    2 FTs coming

  • cali7

    6pts vs 33pts – Lakers starting guards vs. GSW guards

  • cali7

    and the short shots

  • SamC89

    Nice! Eurostep! Thanks Harden!

  • When Lin attacks, good things happen! Curry 2nd foul?

  • BobbyH

    So what. It is team vs team.

  • darn only asserted himself under 2 minutes to go

  • cheapjing

    lin to the rescue

  • Lin can do this all day! :]

  • cali7

    Lin – 4-4FT made; 4 pts, 4 assists

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Only when Kobe is tired:-)

  • Lin likes balance :]
    I want to see 12-12-12

  • SamC89

    WOW KOBE!

    (And 1!)

  • JoeTeam

    circus Kobe!

  • the thing is tho, kobe was tired almost whole of second quarter

  • That’s one RIDICULOUS circus shot by Kobe!
    Aggressiveness, baby!

  • Love Lin

    was it reverse layup?

  • maybe double-reverse layup LOL

  • cheapjing

    superstar shot

  • Maknusia

    good going there by Kobe

  • cali7

    Kobe is 3/10; yikes

  • LOL…. Lin got fouled with 0.6 second

  • tsk tsk superstar call lol

  • cali7

    Ellington tripped on Lin and they both went down

  • Maknusia

    yeah that was funny…2 down on floor

  • cali7

    about time

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I know but he kept on going until ran out of gas:-)

  • I like that swish from the FT line.. 6 Swishes! :]
    That Biaiyan highlight would be funny to watch

  • but seriously, that was a foul in the open court, dumb move by warriors

  • Maknusia

    that I could take! 🙂 anyday

  • Brent Yen

    This is the 1st time I see something like that

  • Arsenium12 .
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    LOL no field goals but 6 FTs is what the commenters said.

  • flopping? :]

  • JoeTeam

    Ok, I have to Lin fan this:

    1. Hill fouls when Lin had an open lane … 2 pts
    2. Lin drives into corner drawing 2 men in, kicked back to Kobe, Kobe has an open lane for his circus shot.
    3. Lin gets Iggy to foul. Before that 2 FTs.

    He’s making a difference now that he’s getting aggressive.

    Let’s hope he continues this in 2nd half. He makes a difference until the bigs wake up. Not going as well as last night, team wise.

  • Lin can do this all day long since he’s too quick for everyone (even with tired legs)
    Quite amazing really!

  • Brent Yen

    Let,s get 18 pts all on FTs today!

  • JoeTeam

    That means they are really sharpshooting on Lin to prevent him a legit way to the hoop.

  • JoeTeam

    Helps very much with his efficiency rating.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Did wonder what happened there. Just saw 2 went down and then couldn’t find JLin.

  • JoeTeam

    because he’s dangerous …!

  • BobbyH

    Kobe has 5 TO. 3/10. I think the tired legs effect kicks in. Scott need to sit him more till 4Q.

  • JAD2456

    No, It’s 14pts vs 33pts.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That will be Linteresting!

  • cali7

    Beat me to it.

  • Brent Yen

    6 pts. 4 asst., 1 reb, 1 steal

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe on 2nd B2B in 5 days. Scott should put him on a tighter minute restriction.

  • webattorney

    You and I can discuss agnostic views then. 🙂 I think since Lin is a Christian, he does have a lot of Christian fans, which is good. I do wonder like you that even if God exists whether he will be involved in who wins a BB game, that kind of things. It does seem minor in the scheme of things.

  • JoeTeam

    remember the 2 man flop last season?

  • joyce ward

    I rather for that 6 to be 16 pts..LOL

  • The refs are thinking, GSW just fouled him twice to get 4FTs so they must give 2 more FTs…

    Funny how a series of events just did the trick

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin got to step it up and take over. Kobe is out of gas.

  • Brent Yen

    I might need to re study what is a move screen. Almost everyone Bought set, I felt it was illegal.

  • Brent Yen

    I feel Lin is, too.

  • joyce ward

    He always sets illegal screens.

  • cali7

    Lakers have 10 TOs, with Kobe having 5. Scott really should restrict minutes or at least have Lin handle the bar much more on the second of a B2B

  • Brent Yen

    Exactly, just watch how Asik set it. Day and night different.

  • cheapjing

    that 19 point swing really hurts. lin asserts himself to take the momentum back. nice job

  • Lakers only down 6 at halftime (55-61)

    If Lin stays aggressive to be PG and attack the rim plus Kobe doesn’t try to playmake when tired, Lakers has a good chance to steal a win

  • cheapjing

    who are u referring?

  • Michael

    Do they look at the feet first? Some screens setters bump you with a lot of force from the hip but they do it with such a small movement that they get away with it.

  • Michael

    Asik is just a brick wall.

  • Lin just needs to help Kobe by handling the ball. Lakers get good results.
    Kobe has no consciousness. He’s gonna shoot everytime Lin gives him the ball

  • BobbyH

    Sometimes the best defense is attack, attack and attack. Lin shows some in late 2Q.

  • joyce ward

    Scott needs to pull the plug on kobe. Lin needs to comeback out and get the team back into the game.

  • Brent Yen

    setting picks. Asik is like a wall, Bogut is like a moving road block in Mario Brothers.

  • Michael

    Haha. Must have eaten a mushroom..

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Joyce, watch the game! It’s fun! Get your blood up to the head. Need a strong heart to watch though:-)

  • true, this back-to-back is not gonna help Kobe’s health

  • yes, GSW bench is worse than Lakers that time

  • cdblue10

    Most of their screens are moving pick,they should be calling it

  • webattorney

    Lakers never started their season 0-4? Since what year? That’s pretty amazing.

  • Brent Yen

    So you guys agree with me too?

  • Brent Yen

    1953 I think

  • JoeTeam

    Bogut

  • Rick Johnson
  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Believe it was in 1950’s.

  • cdblue10

    Yep especially Bogut and those screens under the rim

  • JoeTeam

    consolation – he did get called once.

  • webattorney

    Lin might want to spend some of his own money on taking acting classes, so he can better sell getting fouled to refs. He’s in Hollywood, so that should be easy: facial expression, body language, etc.

  • cali7

    But they said when they went 0-3, they nevertheless made the playoffs

  • Love Lin

    dont break the record, plz…

  • Brent Yen

    THis definately helps

  • JoeTeam

    made a big difference finally. Most of first half, he was focusing on Curry channeling his Rox role.

  • webattorney

    Should carry some fake blood to put below his nose when refs are not watching.

  • cdblue10

    go watch out for the screens all of them are moving pick

  • cdblue10

    Kobe sit down

  • He did the penance by being Harden’s understudy for 2 years in Houston :]

  • JoeTeam

    I am liking Hill … is that bad bro?

  • Maknusia

    Like Bscott said the other…for now they are playing like they are afraid to lose, rather than playing to win

  • Brent Yen

    Not sure, why would your say that? they are not leading at all

  • cdblue10

    I apologized Kobe.lol

  • cheapjing

    kobe

  • Michael

    He did…on the floor for a few seconds.

  • Maknusia

    Except fr the last two run…the paly previously, was like they are rushing to shoot or going to the paint

  • cali7

    Lin’s shoes

  • Rick Johnson

    Jeremy seems to slip a lot. Maybe Adidas not such a great shoe

  • Rick Johnson

    Adidas. SMH

  • Brent Yen

    M……that is weird

  • cali7

    He slipped yesterday too

  • Love Lin

    slipped again.. whats wrong w/the sneakers? 🙁

  • Maknusia

    if you notice…when Jeremy dribbles he likes to slide and glide…sometimes, he over do it 🙂

  • Brent Yen

    But Nike can handle it….LOL

  • cdblue10

    No traction

  • BuzzerBeater

    Need a fire hydrant asap for Jeremy to mark his territory.
    Seriously, I want him to hit a couple of shots so I wont have to hear/read the word ‘passive’ again.
    He needs to do like Kobe and end up 0-30 if need be.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL 0-30

  • cali7

    Hope he takes a couple more threes. They have only taken 7, and he took 1.

  • JoeTeam

    do the Kobe!

  • JoeTeam

    this offense is working v hard to get the ball to Kobe. What’s going to happen in fourth quarter with all that I dunno …

  • cheapjing

    gotta admit. when kobe takes over the game and shoot the lights out. it is beautiful.

  • Great ball movement by the Lakers.
    Kobe-Wes-Davis

  • webattorney

    Man, Curry and Klay are good.

  • I hope Lin will get his 2nd wind in the 4th quarter.

  • JoeTeam

    Yes they are. 3rd year like this I think.

  • joyce ward

    What is up with lin?

  • cheapjing

    i am surprise that kob eis not resting for the 4th

  • Love Lin

    unstoppable back court..

  • Rick Johnson

    Seems to be going back to passive mode. I thought he had a breakthrough last time and would continue it. SMH

  • Kobe will start missing and GSW will increase the lead.
    Lin needs to take charge to run offense in the 4th but idk if he has enough left in the tank?

  • JoeTeam

    he’s not passive at all. They just have the ball called for Kobe every f’in play and before that, he missed from the field so he’s not shooting through it because they were down by a lot.

  • Love Lin

    sigh.. hes maybe tired as well.. n the slippery shoes.. 🙁

  • Lam

    the dreaded c word. Consistency.

  • webattorney

    It’s basically Kobe vs. GSW. And GSW is going to win.

  • Michael

    I am surprised Kobe can still get that kind of elevation on a shot.

  • Acbc

    I’m not a Christian, but I appreciate the fact that LIN is a devot Christian himself and thus attracts a lot of other devot Christians. This site was created by some like minded people so I am fine with their interest in sharing their beliefs on this site. It is also why this iste is so well monitored for negative influences of trolls and haters. If you are embarassed by the association with a Christian site then it’s more a reflection on your own insecurity. I actually admire people of good faith, the ones with pure hearts who walk the walk like LIN are truly inspirational. It’s a pity that you don’t appreciate how important it is to be tolerant of different faith and personal beliefs.

  • not sure.. my guess is fatigue because he didn’t look to run the offense enough or take it to the rim like last night.

  • JoeTeam

    no, they are facing the Splash bros and even Iggy is a force tonight (not just D). So, with lin tough covered, Bogut moving screens, etc. he’s tired. He missed a few from the field, so he can’t afford to shoot through it because they rely on him to QB the ball right. They’ve been calling it for Kobe and Kobe has had a few clutch shots but v inefficient. Kobe can be inefficient if they stay close.

    Let’s see what happens in 4th. Lin is not passive or inconsistent – the are under pressure from a v good team.

    Hill is doing great.

  • JoeTeam

    Hang in there fans … Lin will be back and the game is close.

  • Brent Yen

    Over one Q…of course, but….

  • Rick Johnson

    Hope he does more than just pass it to Kobe when he comes back in.

  • joyce ward

    i wander if that is by design

  • Lam

    thanks. as usual unable to watch the game. depend on you guys.

  • JoeTeam

    he can’t do much more if that’s the call. Kobe will take a break from his one man game, he’s already tired. Yesterday he was not good in final minutes.

  • I have hope for Mr. 4th Quarter to do what he needs to do .. fatigue or not
    Even if 0-30, let’s do it, Jeremy!

  • Michael

    I think chasing Curry off all those moving brush screens all over the court after a B2B is tough.

  • Lin-Price backcourt to start the 4th.
    Plus Davis, Clarkson, Ellington

    Come on, Lin! You can do it!

  • Rick Johnson

    What’s wrong with Jeremy? Tired from defending?

  • Not sure, something looked really off with him tonight.

  • livyrlife

    you can’t watch the game bcoz of no access to the live telecast or you are at home to watch?

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t know he has a tough assignment on D and not much room to move.

  • Love Lin

    gotta keep consistency.. its been what he n fans hope 4…

  • JoeTeam

    Ok, Kobe chucks, Hill is there to o-rev. Lin stands behind kobe. Great offense.

  • BuzzerBeater

    In all honesty, we all know Jeremy always struggles on back2back, which sucks.
    After a great game yesterday now we gotta hear those dreaded words again: ‘inconsistent’, ‘passive’ etc ugh.

  • JoeTeam

    so stop typing it. I see a disorganized team with inconsistent team play playing against a very well honed team with 2 deadly 3 pt shooters. Look at this – Iggy hits a nice shot. He’s so much a D man.

  • let’s hope for the best.
    4 games in 5 nights definitely is not easy

  • cheapjing

    lin! nice pass

  • Great assist by in to find Hill for easy dunk

  • Here we go!

  • AllKpop<3Ailee'sBoobies

    Stat update?

  • Love Lin

    r there any teams playing like this? 4 gms in 5 nites

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Game done.

  • Michael

    Sigh Boozer…

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    What was Boozer doing? Hold the ball for too long. Move the ball Lakers!!!

  • JoeTeam

    example of unorganized LAL play … wide open corner 3, inside man holds it and then finally passes out, to a trap. Curry scores a 3 the other end. Difference? 6 maybe? Crazy math I know, but that’s why Lin is not making you guys happy – this team is not playing well against a v good team.

  • Brent Yen

    Boozer basically just set a trap for Price….poor price…LOL

  • Ken Chatsworth

    It was supposed to be a fast break…

  • JoeTeam

    Yes,t hat was it.

  • k.smith

    Boozer rather pass the ball to Price than Lin. Lin was calling for the ball.

  • Michael

    Price was right there in front of him, wide open 3….

  • Well, things don’t look good. Lakers are dragging their feet.
    They might not have much in the tank.

    As I said before, this is a schedule loss, 4th game in 5 nights.
    Let’s hope Lin gets the Laker going with 5 min left even if it’s a loss.

  • 311

    And wide open for a while.

  • Michael

    Yeah he waited too long. I guess he wants to get some shots off to pad his stats.

  • not so far. Whoever scheduled it doesn’t like Lakers very much

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Not a single field goal tonight. Sad.

  • cali7

    What is up with Kobe’s FTs.

  • cali7

    Still time to make one

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    This happened too often to my liking in this game. Ball from JL and never got it back. Formula for losing!

  • SamC89

    Tired. Usually when good free throw shooters miss it’s because they’re tired.

  • BobbyH

    Lakers only play team ball for first quarter. The rest so far, all ISO. The whole Lakers team is like support cast of Kobe.

    Even Kobe can shoot the light out, it ices out the teammate. Just too bad. Personally I think Scott designated this schedule loss as Kobe’s shoot out game.

  • Michael

    Like Howard.

  • 311

    Yeah, this team still has a long way to go.

  • cali7

    No, he’s missed several yesterday.

  • k.smith

  • Rick Johnson

    He must be tired, can’t get it over the rim.

  • SamC89

    Ok, can tell that Lin is tired, especially when he missed that drive. 4 games in 5 days. Just going to chalk this one up and stay hopeful for next week!

  • k.smith

    everyone else is tired. No one is making excuses for the other players.

  • I think so. That layup was short.
    That’s a sign of fatigue

  • Price is 0/4 with 0pts (thankfully?)

  • SamC89

    Not making an excuse for anyone. They do all look tired.

  • k.smith

    wow, Lin.

  • Michael

    Boozer looks fresh.

  • BobbyH

    Tired Lin just can’t catch up with Curry.

  • SamC89

    Hah! The bench actually looked fresh. Should have played them more.

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Just can’t buy one

  • k.smith

    can’t buy a bucket.

  • k.smith

    take lin out of the game.

  • Love Lin

    4gms in 5 nites really hurts…esp. b2b.. 🙁

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Wow, so bad.

  • kassiek

    DONE

  • livyrlife

    Alright, Jeremy said he’s 26 and he can play 48mins…

  • JoeTeam

    ok, that’s it. It not a Lin night. Kobe taking over in the 3rd quarter is very bad for team play, his inefficiency really hurts because nobody else can get their game going. Only guy who played decent is Hill. I could be wrong, you folks call it.

  • Rick Johnson

    And pretty much against 4 Western probable playoff teams. Refs, NBA schedulers all working against the Lakers.

  • yeah, too bad. short and long
    just didn’t have it tonight, I guess

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Killer schedule for playing with all the “playoff teams” in 4 out of 5 teams.

  • joyce ward

    some nights it will be other people who step up. Lin is with new team, new offense and still trying to figure it out with kobe.

  • k.smith

    Kobe and Hill kept them in the game. Lin had many opportunities to playmake/score. Really disappointed in his performance.

  • BobbyH

    You pretty much sum it up.

  • well, folks.. this is not for the faint of heart.
    At least Lin didn’t give up fighting and kept shooting

  • Michael

    Good thing is even after a B2B they still hung with the Warriors unlike game 1 and 2.

  • Dorothy

    Lin is hurt.

  • oh no, Lin got the worst of that collision with Curry.
    Forehead

  • webattorney

    Gotta shoot at least 12+.

  • JoeTeam

    yes, 0-6 or 7. But I see see that big block of time in 3rd quarter where just about every play went to Kobe was a team killer. I just don’t get it.

  • BuzzerBeater

    but isnt that where Kobe wants Jeremy to take the reins and wave him off?
    If the ball keeps going to Kobe, he’s gonna take the shot, but he’s given Jeremy the green light to prevent that.

  • SamC89

    Not going to get too down just because of this game. We’ve already seen what’s possible. Just need more time to gel. I’m in this for the long haul!

    (But I will turn the game off now because it’s slightly painful, heh.)

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Not anymore

  • Rick Johnson

    Need to replace Boozer with Davis in the starting line-up.

  • Michael

    Well yeah the game was over a few minutes ago though.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep! Hope JLin is ok.

  • k.smith

    At least they waited until the 3rd qtr.

  • his teammates are making shots so that wouldn’t be wise IMO

  • Ken Chatsworth

    And they don’t have David Lee. Sad.

  • JoeTeam

    You could be right, but someone is deciding to go through Kobe.

    Here’s the rub … last 2 years, we saw Lin passing to Harden and camping in the corner. This year, we see Lin passing to Kobe and camping back and opposite to Kobe. Kobe has a different ISO, but it’s the same to me. Team killa … Hope Scott is a better coach than McHale. There is tape and there are adjustments ….

  • just didn’t have it esp. in the 4th

  • JoeTeam

    forehead better than temple, my friend.

  • Love Lin

    scott’s rotation.. dont get it, why..

  • cali7

    Kobe and Lin are not sitting next to each other. Not suggesting anything by it. Just stating a fact.

  • k.smith

    On this team, yes.

  • Rick Johnson

    Bay Area has such good sports teams. Giants, 49ers, Warriors.

  • Michael

    Kobe did give him a little pat before Lin sat down..

  • JoeTeam

    LOL, yes. Lin should have shot through his slump first half I agree.

  • cali7

    that’s good. I stopped watching a bit. too painful

  • Hill has been making his midrange Js the past 2 games in high clip and tried hard on D (nice blocks). So it would be hard decision to sub him with Davis

  • joyce ward

    OK, I am a die hard Lin fan and sometimes he brings it and sometimes he doesn’t, but if you want to be a starter in this league, he has to find a way to bring it every night. I am glad he is on the Lakers because this where the men are separated from the boys. Lin time in Houston was because they didn’t care about him, and they left to fend for himself. Kobe is not like that, he is a hard taskmaker and lin will have to step up to the plate and being tired is not going to cut it as an excuse. I am afraid Lin is in for a very rude awakening.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Just check, this is the 2nd of Golden States while this is the 4th game of Lakers. With so many injuries in preseason and then played 4th game in 5 days, the result is still pretty good esp they just began to make some gel since Game 3. Not going to feel down because of this. They have done very well considering. If in preseason, they may lost more than 30 pts.

  • Michael

    Judging from his body language on the bench now, he knows.

  • cali7

    Well said. This is the first time that Lin will really have the chance and have a mentor. He’s proven to be a quick study and it will just take time. They have to string the first quarter into 4 quarters

  • SamC89

    Yeah, I’m also a bit disappointment to see this version of Lin. He was so different than last game. Still, I’m going to move on from this and look forward to next week. Hopefully with each loss it will be a learning experience and they can all start winning.

  • Lin has been historically not performing well in B2B.
    Kobe on the other hand has been nothing short than amazing with the conditioning.
    Unfortunately, that’s the current situation.

    But yes, Lin would do well learning Kobe’s secrets of superb conditioning

  • k.smith

    If Lin continues this jekyl and hyde act, Kobe isn’t going to put up with it.

  • joyce ward

    Oh i am sure Kobe has told him off already. Kobe is not the one for excuses. Lin being tired is not going to cut it.

  • webattorney

    Agree 100%, even though I am a “doubtful” fan of his BB game. Strangely, I am not even disappointed that much — maybe I sort of expected this inconsistency.

  • I know many are disappointed with Lin’s performance after last night’s high.
    But it is what it is. Hope he will learn from Kobe on how to stay fresh in the 4th game of 5 nights.
    I have to admit Kobe is truly amazing.

    Lin just has to seek deep to bring his best next game (Phx in 3 days)

  • cali7

    I’m just wondering, where is Lin/Davis PnR? Rarely seen. Wanted that chemistry to build.

  • BobbyH

    I think he tried his best. The body just couldn’t let him. 4 games in 5 days as PG, handling most of the balls.

    Yes, excuse. But you can’t deny this is a factor. If you ran a marathon. Then next day you play a NBA basketball, anyone could be weary.

  • Michael

    Am I correct when I say it’s not about his stats, but that he didn’t play with that aggressive edge like yesterday?

  • BobbyH

    Yes, if B2B games is Lin’s weakness, he can learn a lot from Kobe.

  • Jlinning

    this season will show who he truly is as a player

  • k.smith

    JoeTeam, if Lin continues to play this way on the lakers then he deserves most of the blame. Scott/Kobe have been very generous to Lin. This is a make or break year for Lin. This is the BEST situation for Lin and he’s not taking advantage of it or doesn’t know how to take advantage of it.

  • BuzzerBeater

    Could not agree more Joyce.
    The tired angle doesnt work as Jeremy wasnt the only one to play last night. Sadly, b2b’s have always been his kryptonite.
    His shot not being there from fatigue is fine, but it shouldnt stop him from orchestrating things or putting pressure on the D.
    Unlike in HOU, this team’s star has openly given him the green light to run the offense. Some will say Kobe’s ISOs are to blame but that’s exactly what Kobe wants Jeremy to prevent. Kobe will shoot if he gets the ball everytime, if he’s ISOing too much then its up to Jeremy, the PG, to runs plays for others.

  • webattorney

    What I can gather so far is this: Lin has to hit outside shots for him to be effective because for various reasons, he is going to have a lot tougher time scoring at the rim this season. If he keeps on trying to score at the rim all the time, he is in for a rude awakening.

  • JoeTeam

    Hang in there fans, now we hear what they say in the locker room and also, PFV. Lin will learn from this.

    But I’d like to still say, let’s not underestimate GSW. GSW are the strongest it’s ever been, and KT had a monster night. Chasing Curry around is pretty hard work, because he can drop 12 on you in 2 minutes.

    It’s not like Lin had an off night against the Knicks (Lebron, 1 pt in first half right? LOL).

  • Love Lin

    its gone since the preseason gms.. 🙁

  • joyce ward

    Yeah, I agree, but what about the other starters in the league. He can’t use that tired excuse. Lin knows that he everything he does is being highlighted even more. So saying you want to be a starter in this league, means much more than he think it does..

  • Rick Johnson

    Next up is Phoenix again so not gong to get easier.

  • k.smith

    It’s a make or break year for him. This is the best situation he could ask for. This team is begging him to step up. I don’t know what it’s going to take for him to play with confidence. I am perplexed.

  • BobbyH

    Yes, you got the point. He needs to step up.

  • joyce ward

    That is why he has to adopt that mentality to shoot. Shoot out of the slump.

  • webattorney

    Old man plays with more energy than a 25 year old kid. I give Kobe a lot of respect, even though he gets tired during 4th quarter. He competes every game.

  • Love Lin

    dont hv 2 much bball knowledge.. got it.. thx 4 the explanation.. 🙂

  • JoeTeam

    Your point is well taken. There are objective lines drawn by guys like Kobe. Lin is going to have to figure out how to make his mark next to Kobe so they win together yes.

  • webattorney

    Agree with you 100% again. I wanted and want him to shoot at least 12 shots per game. Man, Klay and Curry shoot so effortlessly. To me, basic skills are: dribbling and shooting. Going to the rim is an extra talent after you have the basics down.

  • joyce ward

    Kobe is going to be hard on him and challenge him and call a spade a spade.

  • k.smith

    when his shot isn’t falling, he becomes passive, and plays like he’s afraid to make a mistake…which makes him play worse.

  • cali7

    BS: GSW took it up a notch but Lakers cant right now. Could have been better. Bigs have to do a better job against Curry and Thompson.

  • Brent Yen

    Scott is saying bigs needs to be better to guard splash bros

  • k.smith

    thanks for the update.

  • Rick Johnson

    Two days off before next game. Wonder if they will change the starters like put Davis in?

  • webattorney

    Anyone can miss 5 shots in a row. But great players keep on shooting because they can also make 5 shots in a row.

  • yeah, I’d love to see more of that.
    Ever since Lin plays with the starters, we haven’t seen it.

  • Brent Yen

    Given how Hill had played….probably not

  • BuzzerBeater

    Suns got blown out by the Jazz today.
    Either the Jazz are really good this year (please dont let this be the case XD) or the Suns are not as good as we fear.
    Yeah they kicked the Lakers’ butt in preseason but the Lakers have improved and built some chemistry since then.

  • cali7

    1957 was last time they went 0-4.

  • k.smith

    Do you think he’s always going to be inconsistent?

  • cali7

    BS: Hill right now is the second best player. Asking more from Hill and Boozer defensively

  • Rick Johnson

    Davis in for Boozer

  • KL

    Golden State shot almost 50% from 3 point range (11 for 23). This is a big problem. I wonder if the lack of a true shot blocker is causing the perimeter defence to shrink in to help pack the paint. They seem to be doing a good job protecting the paint but are getting killed by teams that shoot the 3 well, e.g. Houston, Golden State and Phoenix.

  • joyce ward

    You have to understand that kobe has been doing this for 19 years, and this is really not about the physical abilities of his game, Kobe plays a very skilled mental game. That is where I want Jeremy to get to.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Did anyone see that JLin didn’t get the ball back once he passed? Did anyone see when Kobe bring the ball up and JLin didn’t get to touch the ball much? or Am I under delusion not to see this happened over and over again??? When JLin got the ball, he was guided heavily by Curry and he tried to drive in, few players were there to wait for him? He didn’t have his first quick step tonight. Maybe it was because Curry knows his game well or caused by heavy legs. Yep disappointed that he didn’t do more but if there was no ball in his hand, what did u expect him to do??? I don’t have the answer. Maybe u can. This is just some of my observations with the time I spent to watch the game. Admittedly I didn’t watch the whole games and most of the part when JLin was in.

  • bolero

    Scott thought LAL ran out of gas, which isn’t surprising, but said the bigs have to do a better job getting out to help the guards.— Mike Trudell (@LakersReporter) November 2, 2014

  • Brent Yen

    My theory is what Kobe did in the 3Q killed the whole team.

  • JoeTeam

    You and me both, buy me a beer?

  • webattorney

    To be honest and sincere, yes. That is because IMO he is not a good shooter. As a tennis player, some players just have a great serve, i.e., Serena. But some players, no matter how hard they try, have very inconsistent serve, i.e. Maria Sharapova and Anna Invanovic.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL I still got a lot in the pantry! come get it..

  • cali7

    I think this is where BS was saying it was a Catch 22 when Kobe gets into that mode, because opposition loads up on him, but that guys have to be ready.

  • joyce ward

    No lin’s problem is that he goes into that sulking mode. He is not being passive,, he is sulking because it didn’t go his way. That is what he needs to snap out of. I hope kobe calls him out on that.

  • JoeTeam

    here, I’ll go get one if you do. boo hoo, not happy with how it went tonight. But I have to remember, I love GSW and they are v good this year. Just wanted Lin to keep it up to help this team ramp their game toward contending.

  • orLinaryjoe

    Lakers missing alot. Bigs is the main. Lin is having terrible night. I’ll support him, but his future again is in his own hands. Just an observation and theory, he looks bulked up a bit since summer. Not sure if it cost some of his agility.

  • Ken Chatsworth

    I saw in numerous occasions Lin was directing traffic (or was he waving his arm for some other reasons??) but then just passed the ball to Kobe which ended up being Kobe iso. Don’t know what that was about.

  • joyce ward

    I think Kobe knew lin wqs not on his game tonight and he was not going to trust him with the ball. Lin has to learn that he has earn trust, because as the offensive leader of the team, he didn’t do his job.

  • Brent Yen

    Can’t haha……we save it for the good games!

  • JoeTeam

    I don’t think in hindsight we should kick Lin’s butt quite yet. It is telling his first half was 6 FTs. They really had him in a box, and yep, he started off cold. Cold is cold as everyone including Lebron has. But that 6 FT is telling on how ready GSW were for Lin.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    That is what I observed. 1 half of the game was fun to watch. Beginning of second quarter, JLin didn’t have much chance to touch the ball at all. Don’t even mention about shooting like posters here suggested. Maybe u can shoot the invisible ball but I don’t think JLin can. I

  • JoeTeam

    good idea …

  • cali7

    Worthy: Sometimes when Kobe is hot, you go to him but have to use him as a decoy.

  • Brent Yen

    Well since most ppl are talking about Lin having a bad game. So I just did not point this out

  • cheapjing

    same feeling. lin was too tired. kobe thought he needed to take over as he doesnt really trust anyone else but lin

  • Brent Yen

    My family have a saying, only drinks to good things.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    The first two was the 2nd and 3rd time JLin played with starters. Couldn’t expect much. That was the disaster plan of BS. I put that on coaches. They messed up badly.

  • cali7

    Haha. You attended a pivotal game. One thing I will say is that the Lakers store in Staples Center is horrible. For kids/boys, they only had Kobe jerseys and one t-shirt. I highly suggest everyone order something online, and not wait to buy at the store because it seems poorly stocked.

    Yes, we were standing up at times, high-fiving, and fist pumping.I must still have a high from yesterday and then to see them start the game off so well and continue what they were doing yesterday, but they ran out of gas.

  • ah, same with Lin before at 38

  • joyce ward

    What are you talking about? I am not going to bad mouthed him the way you do on the other site. Unlike you, I am actually a lin fan, not a lin critic. I will stick to what I said about the Lakers wanting to keep him. It is up to lIn to keep the starting job, and staying in LA. This season is is going to be a very rude awakening for lin. He might up his physical game, but now it will be his mental game that will be tested this season.

  • cali7

    One thing that is refreshing is that there isn’t this weird media agenda against Lin and he didn’t become a scapegoat. I prefer this silence as opposed to unwarranted blame.

  • Brent Yen

    I guess I will weight in a bit LOL. Tired legs can not be an excuse indeed. Lin just could not get going but the team was winning. LAL loses when the ball does not move. Lin jacking up shots are not going to make the ball moves better. It will just turn the team with one black hole into a team with two black holes. Lin played terrible does not equal to him played passive. Maybe not completely aggressive like some other better games he played, but he gave it all.

    If Kobe is going to play this mentoring thing going forward. He better be playing on both ends of the floor. Lin defened very hard. I could not say the same about Kobe. Not after the 3rd Q, the whole teamball thing just went down the drain. Carrying the team? give me a break. What team? just 5 ppl.

    Everyone is going to have bad games, some will have games way worse than this one, Lin included. As a PG, if Lin wants to shoot out of a slump, he probably will shoot the team out of the TOP15 in the west conf. as well.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL

  • cali7

    Just as a reminder: don’t forget daylight savings time ends in the US

  • joyce ward

    Did Scott say anything about Lin’s play?

  • I agree with what PFV said in the short video.

    GSW is 5-7th best team in the NBA but Lakers managed to just trail 86-93 (7pts) before getting outscored 34-18 in the 4th quarter. That’s a sign that Lakers ran out of gas in the 4th as a group.

    Lakers started with great ball movement to continue the momentum from last night but just couldn’t sustain it. It’s funny how they’re truly dependent on Jeremy to run the offense well. It’s a great opportunity and challenge for Jeremy to steer the offense for the Lakers this season.

  • SamC89

    Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I feel the next 4 games are very winnable, (Suns, Hornets, Grizzlies, Pelicans).

    Also I just realized that the Rockets game (on the 19th) is the second night of a back to back.

    Oh well, good night everyone! Or good morning depending on where you are ;p

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yeah. I try to see JLin’s situation from all angles that I know of, rather than…. Too early for me to worry about his contract and so on.

  • JLin’s Post-Game Interview
    As usual, Lin took responsibility for not giving the team what they needed for him.
    That’s what great leaders should do to acknowledge the problem so they can fix it.

  • cali7

    Also, this is unrelated to the game, but I hope those test results you were waiting on for Monday, come/came out well. Not sure what time it is there.

  • Only 4 teams remain winless. Who’s going to win 1st?

    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/528790258926628864

  • JoeTeam

    lin needs one this year, and for his team to feed him to get 45.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Thanks for asking. My appointment with GP (fam doc in US term) is 10:50am tomorrow (about 18.5 hrs from now). If you don’t remind me, I don’t even think about it:-) Definitely have medical issue(s) but pray that don’t need any medical procedure/intervention except medicines.

  • webattorney

    I don’t know if sulks; I think he thinks about it too much.

  • cali7

    Kobe had 7 TOs. Both Horry and Worthy saying that Kobe should pass out when he gets double, triple teamed, but that it is tough because feels obligated lead

  • JoeTeam

    LOL, “moral victories kinda suck” now unLinChristian jk.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol Like your strategy!

  • JoeTeam

    dang, they can’t be alcoholics. Good self-dampening I’d say. Brits and Americans need to learn that lol.

  • If Lin fans are grasping for positives other than health, here is one of them:

    Lin 6pts/6asts/4rebs/1stl 0-6 FG in 32 min
    Price 1pt/6asts/2rebs/2stl 0-4 FG in 22 min

    It could have been worse outcome for Lin if Price came out hot-shooting since Byron would have rightfully played Price more minutes. Then we’ll have PG controversy.

  • JoeTeam

    I like that analysts are able to talk about this and not blame Lin like our tiger community 🙂

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol my hope for JLin is breaking his own record at least once or twice this year. I believe it can happen:-)

  • Perimeter defense has been the biggest weakness for the Lakers.
    I guess they haven’t fixed it completely.

  • webattorney

    Agreed. All I know is Kobe is a special player.

  • cali7

    I will just clarify that the topic was Kobe. Chris McGee wanted their thoughts on Kobe

  • joyce ward

    I agree, but lin as a starting pg in this league has to figure out a way to break out of that mode. He has to learn to bring it every night. Lin is in for some painful days with kobe as he schools him about the type of player he can become. It is all good because Lin is up for the challenge.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol To him, loss is loss; no way to get around that and he will take the responsibilities.

  • JoeTeam

    maybe the o-fers by guards has something to do with the game flow messing with their play. I was frustrated watching Kobe ISO, and I was just sitting here.

  • cali7

    Kobe: I’m “festively jovial” about going 0-4. (insert sarcasm)

  • JoeTeam

    dang lol.

  • webattorney

    How about TOs?

  • joyce ward

    I think that the Lakers want lin to be their PG for a long term, but Lin is in for a very rude awakening being mentored by kobe. Lin will be alright, but this is going to be a wake up call for him.

  • k.smith

    It is what it is.

  • JoeTeam

    I’m ok with what you say. Tough love from Kobe is aok by me. I’m a believer not to ever take a person down unless you are willing to help him up, so if Kobe takes Lin down and teaches him up, that’s a great leader and teacher. I’ll go for that.

  • The great ball movement that gave Lakers lead for a while did slow down when Lin rested. But even more when Kobe started going into hot-shooting streak.

  • JoeTeam

    the question Joyce asked before the game … now to stop GSW 3s. Nobody had an answer, and this is the result.

  • Brent Yen

    It totally died in 4Q

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Lakers Facts @LakerFacts 3 minutes ago
    Lakers: Are 0-4 for first time since the 1957-58 season when franchise was located in Minneapolis

  • cali7

    Lin: Felt terrible about how he played tonight. Didn’t give the team what they need from him.

  • Ken Chatsworth

    That 10 point lead actually gave me some hope…but it died in 2 mins

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I disagree with most posters of what they said. That’s why I wanted to point it out. Even as a very amateur NBA watcher, I saw what it was out there. JLin indeed has tried his best. Playing with Kobe is much harder than JLin anticipated I believe. He just walked over you and didn’t even take it back. Guess my prayer to JLin is for him to be able to scream at Kobe when he does that is what JLin needs to overcome sooner than later. Otherwise we are going to see game like this over and over again. No trusting to any players except himself. He can’t win playing like that.

  • cali7

    That’s good you don’t think about it. 🙂 I really hope that is the case.

  • JoeTeam

    Splash bros are 0-60 in 1 sec when they are on.

  • k.smith

    I disagree. If Lin doesn’t become more consistent/impact games like a starter should, he will not be in their long term plans because they can find someone cheaper to replace him.

    Honestly, he didn’t play any differently than Price and I don’t think Price is that good. The fact that we’re even comparing Lin to Price is sad.

  • it’s ok 🙂 .. but you better return the favor next time before Lakers come to Phoenix again haha.. Do you plan to watch games in person again?

  • cali7

    Moral victories suck so they have to go out and win a game. Lin sounds very down and disappointed.

  • joyce ward

    That is what sulking is. Lin is a cerebral ball player, it has to make sense for him to understand it.

  • Ken Chatsworth

    Aren’t they buddies? Can’t Lin ask them for some shooting tips?

  • SamC89

    Exactly, what’s worse than the haters and trolls are tiger fans. Just need to give Lin time to find his groove and gel with that team.

    I sear, some “fans” are so easy to give up on someone just because hey had a few bad games. Heck, if you are a fan of someone, even if they have a bad YEAR you should still be a fan as long as they are trying and improving.

    And please don’t take this to me that we can’t complain or point out his mistakes. It’s more towards those fans that just want to give up on him completely.

  • k.smith

    Heard this before.

  • Lin 5TOs in 32 min (0.15TO/min)
    Ronnie 2 TOs in 22 min (0.09TO/min)
    Kobe 7TOs in 36min (0.19TO/min) but the Boss scored 28pts so it’s all forgiven by Lakers

  • JoeTeam

    A lot of what Kobe says is media savvy. I would think it’s hard to waive him off. I notices lots of Kobe ISOs were too tight, and he never kicked it back out to Lin. Lin was just sitting back there, like ok, I’m ready for defense if you turn it over.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yes GS knows if they can contain JLin. Kobe win turn to Kobe mode. They can win easily. That’s what I witness of what is happening tonight. Easy game planning with Lakers. Kobe alone can’t win the game. For me, I believe not only JLin needs to learn to play with Kobe but also believe even more so that Kobe needs to learn to play with JLin and the rest of the players.

  • cali7

    True, but this time he is getting his chance so it is his response that will mean the most. We will see what he is made of.

  • JoeTeam

    That’s what I keep wanting, because Curry is tops. Lin to me is ok, he needs a great reliable pull-up jumper.

  • BuzzerBeater

    Jeremy currently has Nash, arguably the best shooter ever on his team to give him tips, but is Nash even with the team?

    lol I swear after the bags incident he just went home to chill and get paid.
    He should be mentoring the young guys.

  • wow.. the Daylight Time Savings caused some comments to be deleted

  • Brent Yen

    Just testing….Disqus is weird. I repost.

    —-

    I guess I will weight in a bit LOL. Tired legs can not be an excuse indeed. Lin just could not get going but the team was winning. LAL loses when the ball does not move. Lin jacking up shots are not going to make the ball moves better. It will just turn the team with one black hole into a team with two black holes. Lin played terrible does not equal to him played passive. Maybe not completely aggressive like some other better games he played, but he gave it all.

    If Kobe is going to play this mentoring thing going forward. He better be playing on both ends of the floor. Lin defened very hard. I could not say the same about Kobe. Not after the 3rd Q, the whole teamball thing just went down the drain. Carrying the team? give me a break. What team? just 5 ppl.

    Everyone is going to have bad games, some will have games way worse than this one, Lin included. As a PG, if Lin wants to shoot out of a slump, he probably will shoot the team out of the TOP15 in the west conf. as well.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Jeremy Lin: “feel terrible about how I played tonight. I didn’t give the
    team what they need from me…Nothing really more else to say”(on TWC)

  • Brent Yen

    not deleted, just been resorted

  • JoeTeam

    shhh … don’t tell anyone ha ha.

  • joyce ward

    I disagree. Lin is probably the only player that can coexist with kobe. I think they want it to really work with lin because of the Asian mark rt, once kobe retires that market is gone from them and LA has the largest Asian community in the US.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Honestly I don’t want another big one to go thru after what I have gone thru this year. Too much!

  • Here we go again.
    JLin Post-Game Interview

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    lol I’m just a very amateur bb fan can see that, obviously professional bb can see that. That’s the strategy of every team to play with Lakers. Too much to ask Kobe for not turning into his Kobe mode. He should know better after playing 18 yrs.

  • Yes, more accurately Kobe wants Lin to be a long-term PG (“now we just have to make Jeremy championship-level PG”)

    I’d say this is part of the process that Kobe talked about. Either Kobe will teach Lin how to get great conditioning throught diet/exercise, it will be quite a process. Lin is not quite championship-level PG yet but I’m glad Kobe is up to the challenge in mentoring Lin.

    The process will take some time, hopefully sooner than later because Kobe only has 2-3 years left.

    Playing consistently in the playoff would require great conditioning and Kobe would be the right mentor to teach Jeremy.

  • JoeTeam

    it would be easy to prove that Lin is a net cash-flow positive if I had some LAL numbers or knew about sponsorships dollars. That Taiwan Tire company that pulled from HOU cost them $. Lin is way cheap if you factor his ticket, shirt, and sponsor sales for the team.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    I know. It became very weird on your side of the globe.

  • PFV Short-Game analysis

  • JoeTeam

    So, midnight shooting drills for Lin.

  • cali7

    I agree. They kept asking him questions about being at home with the Lakers and such, but if he doesn’t deliver this season, maybe not.

  • Brent Yen

    He just need to rest.

  • Rick Johnson

    Good news is JLin will be a starter for a while. Bad news is that so will Boozer:

    Bill Oram‏@billoram
    Sorry Ed Davis fans, Byron said four games in is much too early to consider a change to the starting lineup. Said maybe 15-20 games in.

    https://twitter.com/billoram/status/528779198845181952

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Hey @psalm234:disqus @brentyen:disqus all your posts are still there at least in my side:-)

  • JoeTeam

    2 were wild ones trying to get some points up with just under 4 mins, down by way over 10.

  • k.smith

    That’s just not true though. Other guards have been able to co-exist with Kobe.

    Every year, LA is the 1st-5th most profitable team. I don’t think they will lose that much money or fans if they don’t re-sign him.

  • some of the shots that Curry made was just too good.
    Lin did quite good in the beginning to cause Curry to miss a few but Curry got off some ridiculous threes with a little screen.

    Klay got some wide-open 3s towards the end. Yup, stopping 3s as a team will be tough for the Lakers

  • khomphuong2

    So depressing after tonight’s game. I think I am going to listen to Christmas songs.

  • joyce ward

    I agree lin. Lin now knows that he has a long eways to go. I am sure that he will come out next game on full blast. Kobe was not his best tonight physically, but his mental game kicked in ,and I believe that is what he wants to teach jeremy.

  • JoeTeam

    I would shoot to relax a bit.

    Bay Area news … “Warriors just had too much firepower …”

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    At least this gives them sometimes to adjust/gel with each other.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep. I saw it plenty of time. Even other starters did the same. Just like Game 2 except first quarter. Even in 1st quarter, it happened. JLin was wide open but none of the players passed it to him. Sad to see. Kobe and the starters kill JLin games. That’s what I see. For JLin playing in Lakers, he has to fight 2 fronts esp Kobe and starters.

  • joyce ward

    You sdo you and I will do me. I think they want him to succeed. You think what you want and I will think what I want.

  • cali7

    I dislike Kerr so I am doubly disappointed by how they lost this game.

  • it’s another “schedule loss” 🙂
    Suns won last night against the Spurs but lost today vs Utah.
    Just didn’t have it in the tank.

    It’s quite common occurrence in B2B games as far as I know

  • Brent Yen

    LOL….they are supposed to lose tho

  • JoeTeam

    yes, it isn’t SAS coached by Pop. Guess we’ll be happier but not as happy as nirvana.

  • sure, and don’t forget Lakers paid him $9M so they wouldn’t want to bench him so soon since they’ll look bad.. haha

  • k.smith

    I’ve been following Lin for a long time, so don’t tell me who is and isn’t a Lin fan. I wasn’t disrespectful, so don’t come at me.

  • Acbc

    For once I agree with Brent. Haha, fatigue is when bad form creeps into fine twitch muscle sequences. It would be not only a waste of time, it could in fact set him back.

  • The scheduler hates the Lakers :]

  • Brent Yen

    exactly…

  • The real key for Lin’s future with the Lakers is Kobe.

    For him to say, “Now we just have to prepare Jeremy to be championship caliber PG” along with the time he spent to mentor Lin on the bench in the past few games really speak volume to me.

    Kobe will only speak his mind so combined with his actions, I think he really sees something in Lin that he respects and wants to help develop. Let’s see what Kobe says about Lin after a struggle or two like this. If Kobe’s still high, that means he’s patient with Lin and truly believes in him.

    Kobe mentoring Lin is the best scenario that can happen for Lin in the Lakers or even in the NBA. Where else will Lin go to have better support?
    IMO What Kobe said goes in the Lakers.

  • cali7

    I know, but it completely fell apart 4th Q. That shouldn’t happen. They need to win one fast so that they don’t stay in the doldrums

  • JoeTeam

    I’m talking not about muscle memory etc. or the western body work, but just to go out alone and enjoy how it feels to remember all those late nights, stroking the shot for a bit. It’s time to gather in the Qi.

  • JoeTeam

    you guys have gone all western medicine on me.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL I would just go eat something and go to sleep

  • JoeTeam

    They are trying to give KT his scoring record.

  • k.smith

    This year they’re gonna be scary. Kerr doing everything he can to open these guys up too.

  • I kinda expected it as a “schedule loss” (4th game in 5 nights). That’s why I posted in the Game Thread description to set our expectations low.

    If we noticed, Kobe also went down in energy in the 4th after trying hard in the 1st 3 quarters. Everyone was dragging their feet while GSW was still fresh zipping around the court.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Scott thought LAL ran out of gas, which isn’t surprising, but said the
    bigs have to do a better job getting out to help the guards.

  • cali7

    I completely understand. You need time to rest and recover, and I truly hope that the result(s) can be treated with medicine and nothing invasive. I’ve come to also realize that we are more resilient than we think or know.

  • what’s his career high?

  • cali7

    I concede that they played hard last night, traveling then playing again. On to the next.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Well I have no choice but accept that this is Kobe team. JLin has to learn how to play with Kobe. It’s hard in a sense but JLin has turned a corner yesterday. JLin is a quick learner. He will learn. Like he said, he anticipated problems but didn’t know the growing pain came this early. So, he has to readjust himself as it goes. My prayer for JLin is that he will overcome each obstacle as fast as it comes. We will see some result in next game. No doubt about that. As long as he improves each game, I’m all good. He wasn’t passive like some posters here said. He was aggressive. That was why he received the FTs. At least he got some calls tonight.

  • JoeTeam

    me too, when one is older, with kids, one cannot spend time on the bittersweet lessons. But I remember younger days, hard days, going out, frosty clear nights, just shooting or kicking the soccer ball against the wall, to remember why we do what we do and love what/who we love … or just going for a run in the fog when you know you have to sleep. Qi is so important. Talking about it releases Qi.

  • Biaiyan Highlights

  • JoeTeam

    i think so, hope so. Plan to go to some games …

  • yup, I also suspect that Kobe is very strict with his diet regimen that affect his physical conditioning. Mental is just not enough, the body has to be willing.

    It reminds me of Novak Djokovic that improved his conditioning greatly when doing gluten-free diet, winning 5-setters and only lost record 2 times in 2012(?). I suspect something similar for Kobe.

  • Brent Yen

    LOL, I like to shoot in the morning when young….like 5 am

  • JoeTeam

    I think it was 38. today 41.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Also remember that this is only the 2nd of GS and this is the 4th of Lakers. With so many injuries, new players, new coach…. Give Lakers some slack! They did a great job considering esp the first half.

  • JoeTeam

    that is then Qi time, where you get way better.

  • JoeTeam

    ok, night all this was fun. I’m off to watch Cal try to beat OSU go Bears!

  • octaviaaa

    Compound it with been the first week of the season, not in mid season condition. Jeremy just looks to have dead legs. I don’t doubt his heart and effort.

  • cali7

    That’s true. But the first two were blow-outs and so they hardly played the 4th. That’s why I’m being more critical, but all that matters is where they go from here. What’s done is done.

  • I lament the fact that you watched a great game in person while I got to watch the Suns game that started the Kobe-Lin talk to be aggressive :] haha..

    Good for you, though. I heard from my cousin the atmosphere was great that fans were standing up during games.

  • cali7

    Go Bears!

  • k.smith

    That’s what you’re resorting to?

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    JLin PostGame Interview

  • Brent Yen

    @psalm234 maybe a new thread will be better? I can not do it because I am using my phone now. Lol

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    @psalm234:disqus May happen in your side but mine is fine. I saw all these posts:-) Appear as many times u repost:-)

  • livyrlife

    Glad to see many of my fav posters from JLindotnet making their ways to this forum and post.

    Hope to see KHuang and Michael Terry post here too as that would be icing on the cake!

    Would like to share MT’s comment which I can’t agree more:

    ” Lin thinks he wants to play some Platonic version of basketball where he doesn’t force shots, but forcing shots is what puts pressure on a defense. Defenses love for you to take what they give you, because what they give you is low percentage shots.

    It’s not a slippery slope. Lin won’t turn into Kobe. He needs to f’ing shoot the ball. That’s his strength. He’s never going to be Nash or Stockton. He’s a high TO, score first point guard at heart, and that’s how he needs to play to be successful.

    Lin is the most athletic player on the Lakers and he should be taking more shots than everyone but Kobe. “

  • Brent Yen

    What did KHuang said?

  • I sent JLin words of encouragement through the words of great MJ himself about overcoming roadblocks. May it be encouragement to the rest of Lin fans, too.

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/528796909763575808

  • livyrlife

    Didn’t go through the whole thread and didn’t see any posts from him either.

    But he and Je Ballew met up in Phoenix and went to the Phx vs Sas game, i think.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Yep saw that post a while back. Did go to jlindotnet a very brief time late last night. WOW! It was really bad. Couldn’t even see one good post that was worthwhile to read after going thru pages. Also didn’t see familiar names anymore.

  • I think it’s just a misunderstanding here.

    I know we are all big Lin fans including @disqus_NiYAYdjvfo:disqus
    Let’s be patient with one another. I know it’s not easy after a bad loss.
    Let’s just focus and hope Lin will bounce back strong against Phoenix in 3 days

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    Having said that I also saw jlindotcom mod was active in Twitter earlier. Can’t remember before or during the game. Soon after that I didn’t read tweets but spent energy in watching game until 4th qtr when Kobe went to Kobe mode. I took a break and returned the last 3-4 minutes. No idea whether he was still active or not.

  • Love Lin

    Grow stronger fm the pain, dont let it destroy u. Dont give up, fight 4 urself n the team. U gotta go through the worst time 2 get the best.. ~~ thats what i tweeted him a few hrs ago..

  • Love Lin

    still see a few old posters, 2 many trolls there.. 🙁

  • cali7

    I plan to go to a couple more games. I am eyeing the one against the rockets in particular .

  • livyrlife

    Also, I love this site for being Jeremy-basketball-Jeremy’s Christian faith-JeremyLin fans centric. These are the foundations for building a community to enjoy interaction and positive discussion among Jeremy Lin fans. JLindotnet has lost its appeals as it has too much trolling and hypocrite chatters. Sad.

  • KL

    I remember in the first season in Houston, Lin struggled in the second of back to back games. I am not sure if this improved in the second season in Houston (he was on the bench anyway).

    Fatigue is definitely a factor. Also I recall Lin has elaborate pre game rituals including naps, meals, bible reading and probably lots of film. Less of preparation due to back to back games and the travelling schedule also probably plays a part.

  • Michael

    I watched the game again and changed the way I thought about how Lin played. The warriors not only took away dribble penetration, but also rarely gave Lin the space to make a jumpshot. Lin on the other hand had to guard Curry, and had very little help. In the first two pictures look at where Bogut is. He isn’t even going to care about Hill way over at the top of the key, but just camp in the paint. There were almost always 2~3 players keyed in on Lin. (Then when Kobe went into ISO mode they adjusted and started doubling Kobe).

    Now if people are saying Lin should just shoot the ball, then
    1. We should either see someone else getting doubled teamed and passing to Lin when he was open, which did not happen,
    2. Someone setting nice screens for Lin to come off of, which again did not happen
    3. Or maybe he should settle for taking difficult contested shots…

    As for defense picture 4 shows Boozer calling out the screen when Lin is already screened, too late. Then Boozer chases Curry with his hands down. Picture 6 shows Boozer face guarding??? While Lin is getting but-screened by Bogut.( This maybe what BS was talking about the bigs need to help more). After four quarters Lins legs were just gone, and that is an observation not an excuse.

    So all in all the Warriors game-plan worked and the Lakers did not. Now they can go back and see what they can do better as a team.

  • SamC89

    Excellent analysis!

  • SamC89

    I actually like that Byron will stick with a player for awhile and let him play through it.

  • livyrlife

    I always feel that Jeremy needs to find a holistic treatment that can help him sleeps better(sleeps through the night without waking up a few times), Chinese style massage which he doesn’t resist or Shiatsu/TCM on certain pressure points to induce sleep.

  • KL

    Whilst I feel that the fatigue of back to back games does affect Lin’s performance. It is not the main reason and should not be an excuse. There is a larger trend of “inconsistency” at work. My take on it is as follows:-

    1. Jeremy treats every game like a chess match (he has used the word ‘chess’ to describe basketball before). He is a coach on the floor and is a good decision maker. However this results in overthinking and also frustration when he can see the solution in his head but the teammates don’t get it.

    2. Jeremy is a great iso player but shooting contested fade away jumpers against a double / triple team is not what he does. This may sound strange but it is actually very easy to stop drives with team defence. You have to adjust and make the defence pay another way. But Lin is not going to force up shots for the sake of it.

    Ultimately Lin will do well but he needs time and support. The good thing is that if Scott can be patient with Wes Johnson, he can be patient with Jeremy.

    We remember Linsanity fondly but it was not all that easy. If you watch the whole games there are stretches where Lin really struggled. Yet he prevailed and even eventually learnt to excel with Melo and had that 6 game win streak which was just as impressive as the original Linsanity streak.

  • JLin Fan from Australia

    WOW! Extremely good analysis. That was what I saw and glad that you confirmed all these. Please repost this on postgame thread. Appreciate it. I would love to make this as feature item but don’t know how to do it.

    @psalm234:disqus @brentyen:disqus Please do something about this post. Appreciate it.

  • Lam

    Games occurs during work hours mainly and no access to live telecast.