2016 Brooklyn Nets Training Camp Theme:

711_netstc

Pic credit to ryanimparato (IG)

Before the Brooklyn Nets training camp started on Sept 27, GM Sean Marks and Coach Kenny Atkinson expressed 5 takeaways for the upcoming season in the press conference. The topics range from group expectations to individual roles. One important takeaway is the unselfish team-ball philosophy of Brooklyn Nets style of play resembling San Antonio and Atlanta Hawks. If the young Nets team want to make a splash next season and exceed the projected 20 wins by many analysts, everyone would need to buy into the unselfish team-ball identity.


Marks and Atkinson have brought in players that they think would be good system fits for their ideal vision of Nets basketball, but that the system will reflect the players. Some points of emphasis:

  1. Team defense
  2. Sharing the ball/be a high-assist team
  3. Don’t take contested shots
    “Down the line there’s certainly a feel for how we’d like to play, simply from our backgrounds – San Antonio and Atlanta,” Marks said. “An unselfish style of play, don’t take contested shots, move the ball, make the extra pass.”

And just three days after Brooklyn Nets Training Camp started on Sept 27, the team conducted an open scrimmage for the fans. The short video clip provided a glimpse of what Coach Atkinson tried to instill in the young Nets team. How well did the team practice the unselfish teamball?

Although this is only a scrimmage where teams don’t play all out and the clip only shows part of the game, there are some interesting observation to measure the unselfish team-ball by the starters (black jerseys: Lin,Brook, RHJ, Booker, Foye/Kilpatrick):

  1. Team defense: 3 steals (2 Bookers, 1 Lin) and 1 charge drawn (Lin) in 10 defensive possessions; almost every shot was contested. Only 1 possession shows weak transition defense resulting in Yogi’s alley-oop to easy McCullough score
  2. Sharing the ball/be a high-assist team: 8 out of 9 scoring possessions were assisted (89%) resulting in 20pts
  3. Don’t take contested shots: 9 of 14 offensive possessions resulted in uncontested shots (64%); 1 was well contested ISO by RHJ; 2 were passing TOs in traffic by Foye and Lin; 1 was fast break started by Lin and finished by RHJ’s putback.

Again, it is only a friendly scrimmage in a training camp, but it is encouraging to observe that the Nets players fully understood and practiced the unselfish team-ball that Coach Atkinson preached. Players need to buy in 100% into what the coaches preach in order to achieve great success. Of course, a lot of work still needs to be done especially with transition defense and proper ball-spacing to reduce passing turnovers but this progress will delight fans. Bogdanovic and LaVert also didn’t play yet to show a different team dynamics. And hopefully, the reserve team would have a healthy Vasquez to provide experience at the PG position and potent scorers in Kilpatrick, Joe Harris, Foye.

The Nets fans and Lin fans can expect the Nets to try to play hard, gritty fun basketball where the ball will zig-zag through great ball movement to emulate the Spurs and Hawks style. It’s early but the training camp is off to a great start.

  • Click Click
  • Click Click
  • Click Click

    It’s all about ball movement and looking for the open player.

    For those that missed it the first time I posted this, coach Kenny will most likely use a system similar to the Hawks’ motion offense:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AtlantaHawks/comments/3j8ari/how_the_hawks_motion_offense_works_megapost_gifs/

  • psalm234

    It’s quite amazing to see how quickly the Nets players adopted “trading good shots for great shots” philosophy.

    Only 1 badly contested shot by RHJ in the beginning but he covered it with his rebounding and slashing ability.
    Everyone was trying to make the extra pass for the open shots. Lin cutting to the rim off someone’s assist (Foye/RHJ?) was nice too. It can be highly productive since noone can keep up with Lin driving the open lane.

    Can’t wait to see Bog play to see if it will improve spacing with so many shooters outside (i.e. Kilpatrick, Harris, Foye)

  • Click Click

    Once these guys gel and get used to Kenny’s system, they’re going to be a very high scoring team. Even ballhogs like Kilpatrick is now passing a lot more and looking for open players. They’re all embracing the team-first mentality.

  • KHuang

    That’s really nice that Atkinson likes “open shots”, but this is the NBA where often the only available shot is a contested one.

    Guys like Lin, Bogdanovic, Scola, Kilpatrick, Hamilton, and Lopez should be OK to take and make occasional contested shots.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Houston is playing the Shanghai Sharks tonight in an exhibition game, in Houston. Jimmer Fredette is playing for the Sharks.

    Donatas Motiejunas and the Rockets are still at an impasse. Motiejunas remains a restricted free agent and he can still sign a contract with the team. (via Calvin Watkins, ESPN)
    __________
    https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/782434734164946945

  • Click Click

    Boxscore:

    http://www.nba.com/gametracker/#/20161002/SDSHOU/rockets/analysis

    It’s on NBATV by the way…

    Jimmer not doing bad, but Rockets are obviously a much better team than the Sharks.

  • Rick Johnson

    LOL stupid so called experts comments of Steph. Going to be a lot of those “experts” again looking stupid when JLin breaks out.

    https://twitter.com/myron_TheGreat/status/782629559598477312

  • heart

    Agree. Too many passes can result in TO and clock expiration. Watching the Sharks and Rox the first few minutes, JF was passing too much. He has only 2pts so far. Don’t want Lin to be in similar situation.

  • Click Click

    LOL whoever made this video used the same soundtrack that was in Linsanity and this interview Lin gave in China:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/JLin7/comments/4ptelm/transcript_of_very_insightful_jeremy_lin/

  • heart

    And narrating the same way as Linsanity 1.0 documentary film… One glaring difference is that Curry received a scholarship to play in college while Lin did not, even though they thought Curry was too small to play at high level…

  • guest

    Nice find. Thanks!

  • blueCypher

    Assuming a 9player rotation, who are the 4 off the bench

    Vasquez
    Luis scola
    Kilpatrick
    ?

  • Click Click

    Curry was pampered and groomed to be a basketball star all throughout his life. Yes, he had his doubters and critics, and he didn’t get a scholarship to the school he wanted to go to, but he was given every opportunity to succeed. That includes getting proper development and lots of playing time on the Warriors, something Lin did not receive. Oh, and he was drafted 7th overall and given a $12.7M/4Y rookie contract.

  • Click Click

    The rotation won’t be that tight, especially early in the season. Coach Kenny will most likely play at least 12 guys, if not all 14/15.

    Lin – Vasquez
    Bog – Kilpatrick
    RHJ – Harris
    Booker – Scola
    Brook – JHam

    Reserves are CMC, Whitehead, Foye (or Harris, depending on who is playing better), Bennett, and LeVert (once he’s healthy). They will all get playing time.

  • Rick Johnson

    I hope with that new shot JLin can shoot like Curry. That would put him on another level.

  • Click Click

    Nobody can shoot like Curry. If Lin can have close to a 40% 3P shot this year, he will be great.

    Curry can’t drive or defend like Lin can.

  • Click Click

    Jimmer has 14/4/4 at the half. Harden is 16/2/6.

    Sharks has no defense. Rockets are scoring on them at will.

  • heart

    Exactly! Lin actually experienced the hardships not just mere talks. Even after he broke out in Linsanity 1.0, he still had to prove himself for four more seasons. I have not read or heard any other NBA players’ stories that can compare to Lin’s story. That is why I’m elated for him to finally get a chance to be a leader of his own team. Just pray that he stays healthy always and will achieve his stated goals in Linsanity 1.0 documentary.

  • Click Click

    LOL Jimmer is having a blast. 27/6/7 end of 3rd Q. He made a running 3-point shot beyond half court right before the clock expired. Where’s KHuang? 😀

  • heart

    Glad for him. He was passing a lot in the first few minutes I watched so I turned it off. He seems to be unselfish and the lone bright spot on the Sharks team.

  • Rick Johnson

    https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/782756733940666368

    JLin working with Kilpatrick. This guy posting is an actor. Wonder if celebrities get to work out with the Nets or he’s someone’s friend.

  • KHuang

    Jimmer having another ORDINARY game by Jimmer standards.

    33 8 8 against an actual NBA mid level team despite no help from his teammates.

  • Click Click

    Here’s the soundtrack from Linsanity:

  • Click Click

    Well, he did play 42:11 minutes in a preseason game. :p

    He played well though. Defense was pretty bad, but he showed once again he can score against NBA players.

  • KHuang

    Jimmer Fredette shoots BETTER than Curry.

    Fredette doesn’t need a zillion picks like Curry does.

  • Click Click

    LOL

  • KHuang

    It’s not as if Jimmer lost his defensive matchups against the Rockets players.

    When a major scorer like Jimmer puts up points like that, bad defense is less important because he is way ahead of his matchups.

    Besides, defense is a TEAM sport. It isn’t as if Jimmer had any help defensively either.

  • KHuang

    Laugh all you want at me, but it’s TRUE.

    Fredette is the best scorer in the world – and he showed it tonight.

    I dare Curry to replace Jimmer on the Sharks and see if he can put up 33 and 8 and 8 against the Rockets like Jimmer just did. I seriously doubt that Curry can.

  • KHuang

    Won’t happen.

    Unlike Jimmer who doesn’t even have a single teammate good enough to play in the D League, Lin has a full roster of talented NBA players to work with.

  • Click Click

    Jimmermania!

    38/8/8 in 42:11 minutes played in preseason game.

    11 for 26 from the field, 42.3% FG, 3 for 8 from downtown, 37.5% 3P, 8 for 8 free throws. This boy can shoot.

    https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/782760063316402180

  • KHuang

    If this is how a guy who is supposedly “too unathletic” for the NBA plays, then the NBA is in deep trouble.

    By the way, Jimmer tested athletically almost identical to Deron Williams – but Jimmer actually tested FASTER than All Star Williams.

  • Click Click

    Nice artwork from dtour16 on Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BLEJERoA3RR/

  • Click Click

    He’s a Brooklyn Nets Team Attendant. Says it on his IG page:

    https://www.instagram.com/forrforr/

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh I see, attendant as day job and aspiring actor.

  • Rick Johnson

    Should be Lin / RHJ / Bogdanovic / Booker / Lopez

  • Rick Johnson

    林培元 ‏@paullinball 17m17 minutes ago
    @JLin7 new stage ! go go go ~
    https://twitter.com/paullinball/status/782785904855265281

  • heart

    Read a recent article somewhere said that Atkinson’s offense system will be more similar to the Spurs system. Is this true? And what is the Spurs system? Spurs run more structure/set plays…

  • TVN

    He was 11 for 26, so he was stopped more often than not.

  • norah mackenzie

    god the artist is so talented

  • John Focker

    Disqus should do an One-Click Twitter Like+Retweet function…

  • TVN

    Hilarious. Curry’s proven to be the most prolific shooter in the history of the game based on his stats what he’s accomplished, while Jimmer is playing in China.

  • grover chang

    lol, whose hand is that touching Brooks chin. That hand seems so random and looks to large to belong to anyone in the picture.

  • Click Click
  • Rick Johnson

    Forearm overlaps with biceps to make it look funny, too wide.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is another one from PaulLinBall …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/paullinball/status/677686975151886337

  • John Focker

    While I’m not as high on Jimmer as KHuang is (I doubt anyone else can be), I do agree that he is way underrated and mistreated. Lin himself was very near elimination from the NBA on more than one occasion, for non-basketball reasons, so let’s not make fun of Jimmer just because he’s playing for Sharks.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    if Marbury can do this in China, anyone can

  • Steppen03

    Hello, guys!
    Couple more days to go.
    I think we will try to win as much as possible Even in the preseason games. Last season, JL7 talked about “a winning culture,” and Coach Cliff also wanted to win in every games… I think it’s the right thing to do – Start setting a standard even in the preseason. We’re not the Spurs or Warriors or Cavs – these teams can afford to relax some and all they have to do is turn a switch on and it’s all business. Not us…

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    agreed..I think they should try hard to win the preseason games…of course, that doesn’t mean playing Lin 35mpg…But any win in Nets column could give them some confidence they will not be as bad as people think.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    your white worshiping is out of control

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree with putting Harris ahead of Foye…Harris is about 6’6 and Foye is about 6’3…Problem is you already have an under-size SG in Kilpatrick who is about 6’4, so you need someone a bit taller there.

    Harris has also shown to be a very good shooter..winning practice 3PT competition and knocking down 3’s during the scrimmage…His shooting is really needed since the starting 5 is a bit lacking in that department.

  • Steppen03

    I don’t mind if he have to play 30-35m to seal the win… Just don’t think as “just” a preseason. A game is a game. It still mean something. We play to WIN. JL7 will have time to rest afterwards…

  • zxcvb

    That’s too much for preseason, especially now that Lin is the lead guard. That time is better served testing Vazquez/Whitehead. 24mpg is good for preseason Lin.

  • zxcvb

    I agree. If they can win 4-5 of their 6 games, it would be a very nice confidence boost. The most important thing is their chemistry and comfort with each other, but they need to see that teamball = winning basketball.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Yup + it might be a good idea to let the playing 5-8 get more practice time against decent opposition.

  • Click Click

    Haters and trolls not gonna be laughing, cuz Lin’s about to begin phase 2 of his progression / goals / journey in Brooklyn!

    https://twitter.com/C_L_I_C_K/status/782864890675466240

  • Click Click

    I don’t even want him to play that much. Under 20 minutes is fine by me. Lin needs to save his energy and body for when games actually count.

  • norah mackenzie

    i think we should not forget the significance of what is happening. he will be the first asian american point guard in the nba and that is an achievement by itself. that plus the fact that he is a good player is enough

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • KHuang

    Whoop de damn do, TVN.

    There are guys named “Curry and Lebron and Durant” who get “stopped more often than not” against this same Rockets team.

    And please don’t pretend that Jimmer didn’t get to the line AND also had 8 assists!!!

    Both Joe Alexander and Jimmer Fredette have been booted out of the NBA for being white, but there’s a glaring difference: Jimmer DOMINATES against NBA competition whenever given minutes.

  • KHuang

    Oh REALLY?

    Do you see other players just waltzing in against the Rockets and putting up 33 8 8?

    I know you hate Jimmer and post WRONG INFORMATION about him, but now you’ve really gotten my interest.

    Do you really think that Marbury himself or any other player could simply strut in, effortlessly shrug off the double and triple teams with no teammate help, and put up the same numbers Jimmer did against a mid level Houston Rockets team with its full roster?

  • KHuang

    Lin’s words remind me why I NEVER listen to any player’s words, Lin’s included.

    Charlotte, after that awesome preseason where Walker and Batum mercifully missed most of the games and Tyler Hansbrough was putting up 10 and 10 in barely 20 mpg, started the season 0-3 and limped lazily through the first part of the season as Lin and Lamb tried to kick life into the Hornets from the bench.

    The only “sense of urgency” felt by Clifford was to try to BENCH Lin and Lamb as soon as Walker and Batum could coddle themselves to success (with Lin’s help).

  • KHuang

    You know what’s even more hilarious?

    You PRETENDING that Curry could do these numbers without actual NBA screens and teammates.

  • KHuang

    Impossible –

    Jimmer haters just DESPISE his WHITE SKIN.

    For me, a statline doesn’t have a skin color.

  • norah mackenzie

    ingratitude is very common it seems – thanks batum for dissing lin despite what he did for your team and made you get a max contract –

  • norah mackenzie

    why did fredette get booted out of the nba? i saw bits of the the match seem slike a solid player

  • KHuang

    Disagree.

    I think Lin should play his standard minutes.

    As a first time team leading starter, Lin is not a career veteran starter who has had the same exact role for years. This is his first run as a starting point guard with his own team to run, so he needs to fully acclimate himself to the NBA starter schedule.

    One just can’t “turn on” one’s intensity in pro entertainment. Even Lin wouldn’t be able to suddenly “turn on” his game if he plays too little in preseason.

  • KHuang

    I didn’t see Batum dissing Lin.

    Besides, I never care what players say anyway. I go by what they DO.

    It’ll be interesting to see how the Hornets do now that Lin’s no longer around to SAVE Walker and Batum.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    There is only one black player in the picture. This is an international starting lineup.

  • KHuang

    Jimmer Fredette got booted out of the NBA for BEING A SMALL WHITE GUARD.

    Everybody keeps saying that “Fredette is too unathletic, he can’t defend, he has a bad attitude, he can’t play at a NBA pace”. SIMILAR TO LIN.

    In Jimmer’s last full stretch of barely solid NBA reserve minutes, he shot 49 and 49 for HALF A SEASON before being traded. Every time Jimmer gotore than 20 mpg, he EXPLODED.

    Then last season, Jimmer PUNKED THE KNICKS for dissing him in the papers before he was even signed and trashing his game while he eas there. In Jimmer’s last game, he played 5 minutes and had like 7 points – more than the entire Knicks back court did put together for the entire game!!!

    Jimmer’s NBA dream was over before he even got started, despite his exemplary combine athletic testing (tested stronger and faster than Stephen Curry) and proven NBA production.

    I still consider Jimmer Fredette to be THE BEST scorer in the world, NBA included.

  • KHuang

    Height isn’t everything.

    Height doesn’t read plays, make cuts, get to spots, react to defenses, handle the ball against pressure, or get key stops.

    Randy Foye is a veteran, a longtime pro with tons of experience and knowledge. His athleticism is diminishing, and the talented Harris might overtake him this season. But Harris is so inexperienced, he is essentially a rookie despite that 6’6″ height.

  • heart

    I’d think he wants to get to know his teammates’ tendency and the most effective ways is to play w/ them not just watching them play…

  • rookie75094

    The “Hand of GOD”

  • takeme2cruz

    It had nothing to do with Batum

  • Click Click

    Batum didn’t diss Lin. Not cool to make stuff up about what people didn’t say.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Note the photo of Jeremy and Brook addressing crowd …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/jt894/status/782959234665238533

  • Click Click

    It means Roger got lucky again and is being rewarded for Lin staying loyal to him all these years. Lin did say Roger helped him through the really tough times and convinced him to stay in the NBA, so it’s understandable why Lin stayed loyal to Roger.

  • Click Click

    He’s getting to know his teammates now, starting a month ago. Preseason games will polish his knowledge of them a bit more, but it’s best if doesn’t overexert himself in games that don’t matter.

  • norah mackenzie

    then why did he comment by saying that not having lin or jefferson was not a big deal ? the sportsrageous article on the side of this page says that – my point is why say anything at all? he cd have said it differently or not said anything at all but talk abt his new team mates instead?

  • norah mackenzie

    i understand what you are saying but my point is why did batum say anything abt lin at all? did he forget how much lin was needed to help the hornets esp in the playoffs?

  • norah mackenzie

    so does that mean that roger montgomery is still lin’s agent?

  • freemind

    “We lost Jeremy and Big Al and C-Lee, but we’ve got (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist) back. We’re getting Marco (Belinelli) and Big Roy (Hibbert), I think we got better,” Batum boldly claimed

    hmmm…that’s kinda backhanded dish.. in his words they got better? we shall see .

  • Click Click

    Umm, Lin has “turned on” his A game plenty of times, coming off the bench, cold after warming up. As for preseason, you’re making too big of a deal out of it. Did Lin have preseason games or any practice with his teammates before Linsanity happened? No, he “turned on” after only playing 1 game with the Knicks.

  • Click Click

    Umm, Dragic still in the NBA and has gotten extremely lucrative money, significant playtime, and praise. Dragic 6’3″. Jimmer is 6’2″. They’re both white.

    Jimmer can definitely score, but his defense sucks. You don’t want to admit it because you’re a fan of his, but this is a fact. Here’s yet another example from last night where Jimmer blows his coverage, has no clue what he’s doing on defense, which led to Harden lobbing up an easy alley-oop to K.J. McDaniels:

    https://streamable.com/cr3x

  • norah mackenzie

    it doesnt matter what batum says but i just felt he didnt have to make it seem as though lin and al were just unimportant team mates when they really were impt – anyway i am looking forward to seeing how the new pple do this time around

  • Click Click

    He’s always been Lin’s agent. Lin signed with Jim Tanner and his company, Tandem Sports & Entertainment to handle the legal work and marketing deals. Roger has always handled Lin’s NBA contract negotiations.

  • takeme2cruz

    Now it makes more sense on your previous comment.

  • KHuang

    It’s not just Lin that needs the repetitions.

    The other Nets, almost all of whom are far less experienced than Lin, need to acclimate to Lin and their new roles.

  • Click Click

    That’s a clickbait site with another RUMOR “article.”

    Here is the actual quote from Batum:

    “(Fans) talked a lot about contracts, because of (so many) free agents. But we forgot about that and played for the team and for the city,” Batum said. “Contracts work themselves out. We lost Jeremy and Big Al and C-Lee, but we’ve got (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist) back. We’re getting Marco (Belinelli) and Big Roy (Hibbert).

    “I think we got better.”

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article104810016.html

    He’s not going to say they got worse publicly. No player is dumb enough say something like that about their team / teammates, unless you’re an ahole looking to cause drama.

  • Click Click

    And that’s another reason why Lin shouldn’t be playing tons of minutes. His teammates like Vasquez and Whitehead also need minutes and get used to playing point, being the main ball handler and distributor.

  • TVN

    It basically means Lin is now a Roc Nation client, as well. It all makes sense as Jay Z is a former Nets minority owner and still has ties to the team.

  • takeme2cruz

    We all know why the Horents showed zero offord of trying to resign Lin.

  • KHuang

    Dragic is not a WHITE AMERICAN.

    If Dragic were born in the US and attended the NCAA, he wouldn’t have been drafted because of the NBA’s openly stated prejudice against white American guards.

    As I said before, better defense from Fredette would not have impacted this game or his ability to outplay his matchups.

  • takeme2cruz

    They all think lin was just a backup for them. Replacing lin wasn’t a problem.

  • norah mackenzie

    they spent more money for the new ones than lin – i guess he did what he had to do in charlotte and brought him back to brooklyn but it wd have been nice if the hornets had tried to keep him somehow –

  • norah mackenzie

    so that is good right ? and he will still be involved with lin

  • norah mackenzie

    he was so young here

  • KHuang

    Because it’s “PLAYER SPEAK” where everybody has to talk positive to not undermine the incoming guys.

    This is why I don’t go by what players say. I go by what they DO

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah i guess but it still sucks to hear –

  • norah mackenzie

    i would have been happier if he had said that tbh. LOL

  • norah mackenzie

    somehow i like that guy joe harris –

  • Click Click

    So now you’re changing it to WHITE AMERICAN. Just below you said this:

    Jimmer Fredette got booted out of the NBA for BEING A SMALL WHITE GUARD.

    It’s not just this game that Jimmer sucked on D. He has always sucked on D.

    I’m not saying Jimmer didn’t get shafted. He should be in the NBA because he can score and the NBA has tons of scrubs a lot worse than Jimmer. However, his poor defense is part of the reason why he’s not on an NBA roster right now. Not sure why you keep defending his poor defense.

  • takeme2cruz

    The Hornets don’t believe lin is worth a penny more and easily be replaced.

  • Click Click

    Good for Roger. Not sure how good it’ll be for Lin. I guess we’ll find out in 2-3 years, when Lin and Roger negotiates his next contract.

  • HVJoy

    Indeed! First full-time Asian American NBA starting PG he is!

  • Click Click

    Man, that press pass / season ticket badge looks cool:

    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/782905568662949888

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah it just sucks – i wanted a bidding war over him – esp with all his team mates getting huge salaries . just jealous – marvin got 54 mill and batum got max etc

  • norah mackenzie

    brook is so tall –

  • norah mackenzie

    i hope the issue of fouling lin is addressed – nervous already

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    agreed on this…maybe not 30, but 25-28mpg…he needs to learn as much as possible about his teammates, system and how and when does he pick his spot to score and to pass.

    Him and Lopez should should have plenty of minutes in the preseason to get ready for regular season.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    This Nets team needs work man and Lin needs as many minutes to get used to his teammates…this is not golden states wariors where they have a bunch of all-star….This Nets team does not have much talent so they will have to rely on team chemistry and hard work and that takes time.

    Lin should play as much as possible in preseason to build chemistry with this new team.

  • I am The Jason

    If Lin is going with RocNation, then his next contract will be at least $100 million if Lin puts up Linsanity numbers minus the turnovers.

  • Click Click

    The old dude on the left holding up the phone is Net Income, the guy running NetsDaily. He was filming the open practice and streaming it on Periscope that day:

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/nets/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/g_100316_openpractice-01.jpg?itok=K_q_OG8x

  • heart

    Thanks for the info. Wow, how did you know that?

  • Click Click

    I watched his Periscope stream and that was his location lol.

    I also asked this guy who Net Income was and he told me:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GoNets/comments/50t796/why_i_dont_like_posting_at_netsdaily/d77pil8

  • heart

    Yep. IIRC, read somewhere on twitter or article that they would only offer him minimum deal like $5M or $6M to re-sign him… That was an insult after all Lin did for them…

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah – what else does he have to do for his teams? even with the nets if he is happy and respected and looked after i am glad for him but his earlier teams still suck

  • grover chang

    Funny I ready it differently. I read it as Jeremy, Al, and Lee were important pieces, that is why they are mentioned as being a lost to the Hornets. I also expect him to say they got better because the season should start with optimism not pessimism. I see what Batum said as a compliment, not a diss. Not mentioning Lin at all would have been a diss.

  • Click Click
  • I am The Jason

    Batum is showing the Charlotte fans some confidence. Nothing wrong with that.

  • heart

    His first (rotational player) and second (starter) wishes have come true. The third one is winning the championship. Praying we’ll see it happens for him!

  • Click Click

    Nets are making all of their players work on 3s. Here’s Anthony Bennett, not known for 3s, hitting top of the arc 3 (longest distance away from basket):

    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/782986423234355206

  • takeme2cruz

    Then you must have agreed it’s a diss in kemba’s summer confession article made no mention about Lin.

  • Rick Johnson

    Bryan Fonseca ‏@BryanFonsecaNY 1m1 minute ago
    Corner three’s starring Jeremy Lin. #Nets #NetsTrainingCamp
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/782988344913453056

  • Rick Johnson

    Interesting. Here is a video interview of him from 2014.

    https://youtu.be/nEGNAGx42a8

  • Vincent

    form looks great!

  • lleepar
  • Rick Johnson

    And so it begins. LOL

    Stefan BondyVerified account
    ‏@SBondyNYDN
    Joakim Noah has a sore hamstring and did not practice today, according to Knicks
    https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/782985248544022528

  • Click Click

    ROFL serves him (JR Smith) right.

    https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/782991355803033601

  • Click Click

    LOL

    AARP Knicks are getting injured a lot earlier than I thought.

  • Click Click

    No skepticism and generally optimistic because they got KG and Derron. After being let down so many times, Net Income is now skeptical and full of pessimism.

  • CJSHYY

    I really like to read the news from NYK…. so fun. LOL!

  • Rick Johnson
  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    Cav said they don’t have money for JR but now signed Toney Douglas? Looks like JR can’t get what he asked for 15M per year.

  • grover chang

    Why the hate for Toney Douglas? I don’t recall him mistreating Lin.

  • Click Click

    Where did you see me hate on Toney Douglas?

  • Click Click

    The amount of zingers the Knicks provide…

    https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/782959350239428608

  • rookie75094

    It’s jr being hated on…hahaha …jr is a Lin hater.

  • Win

    Same here. Lolll

  • grover chang

    I’m confused? Why are you laughing about Toney Douglas being signed?

  • Rick Johnson
  • Click Click

    ROFL serves him (JR Smith) right.

    JR thinks he’s worth $15M, but he’s not. He’s been holding out, not attending training camp, and refusing to make a deal with Cavs front office.

    JR was also one of the players jealous of Lin during Linsanity.

  • Win

    I am glad to see that. I think LBJ has too much control of the team. If I am Dan Gilbert I will not sigh JR this season.

  • HVJoy

    Toney Douglas’ contract is not guaranteed. Cavs need another reserve PG behind Kyrie Irving because Mo Williams retired.

    http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/10/cavs_sign_point_guard_toney_do.html

  • rookie75094

    Reading about the nics sure make my day…hahaha

  • Rick Johnson

    Bryan Fonseca ‏@BryanFonsecaNY 7m7 minutes ago
    Atkinson praised Bennett’s commitment to getting in shape. Says he’s been i’mpressive,’ would like to use him as a dual threat. #Nets
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/783003216975888384

  • Rick Johnson

    Does it even relate to JR? I thought they had to release another player to make room for Toney Douglas?

  • Rick Johnson

    It’s JR’s response to the tweet that Toney Douglas was signed that people laughing at not the signing of Toney Douglas

    https://twitter.com/TheRealJRSmith/status/782986717028638721

  • grover chang

    I try to tell people Bennett discovered he had obstructive sleep apnea as a rookie. That means he literally stopped breathing while sleeping. That is very damaging to fatigue, stamina, metabolism, his ability to breath on the court.

    Ever since he got tonsil surgery all reports I hear is of him getting leaner and stronger.

    I don’t know how good he will be but he will be better then his reputation now that he is healthy.

  • KHuang

    I envision Anthony Bennett as the second coming of Chuck Hayes:

    a 6’6″ center whose sole role in the NBA is to act tough and facilitate others.

  • KHuang

    You’ll see that what Batum says WON’T MATTER if the Hornets struggle to win games without Lin.

  • KHuang

    There will be absolutely NO PROBLEM with fouling this season.

    After the bash video, the NBA no longer wants any more bad press from abusing Lin.

  • KHuang

    Excellent argument

  • KHuang

    You’re not wrong.

    He’s talented enough to start for the Nets.

  • psalm234

    Interesting.

    According to this Nov 2014, he actually battled 4 health issues (sleep apnea, asthma, weight issues, and poor eyesight.)
    Ex-No. 1 NBA Draft Pick Anthony Bennett Lost 20 Pounds, Got Eye Surgery So He Can See The Scoreboard
    http://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-bennett-weight-surgery-2014-11

    Let’s hope AB can help Lin and the Nets shock the NBA!

  • KHuang

    NO.

    The NBA bias against white American guards is well known.

    And poor defense? I don’t care if the NBA’s best defender was playing on the Sharks, that defender would still get scorched because basketball is a TEAM sport especially on defense.

    Jimmer has bad defense? Well, so do a lot of players including All Defensive 2nd team defensive “star” Patrick Beverley who got ROASTED by Jimmer even worse than Bev usually gets roasted in the NBA.

    This is the NBA where a player’s contribution is his NET overall contribution, not individual lowlights on defense. There are tons of NBA players that defend far worse than Jimmer but still get NBA contracts.

  • grover chang

    Forgot, yes asthma too. Did not know about the eye sight. He is pretty young to have so many issues. He should see a specialist in new York to be sure there is not some syndrome he has and they are still missing stuff.

  • KHuang

    I still don’t see Bennett’s athletic #1 pick greatness.

    He’s slow, can’t jump, and is shorter than his listed position. Those physical attributes cannot be changed by hard work and smart play.

    We’ll see soon enough whether Atkinson’s plan of playing Bennett real minutes actually helps the Nets or not.

  • CJSHYY

    JR still didn’t get the contract he wants from Cav so who knows….?

  • CJSHYY

    Go to trial in LA…. I think. LOL!

  • KHuang

    Years ago, the Cavs pulled this same refusal to pay their double figure starting SG with a player even better than JR Smith: Alexander “Sasha” Pavlovic.

    The Cavs wouldn’t even offer the minimum, so Pavlovic’s agent took to the press and said “My starting SG double figure scoring client kn a 60 win team deserves to be properly compensated for his talent”

    Pavlovic landed a $2 milliom contract, which was low but not minimum.

  • KHuang

    “Happy” birthday???

  • Icelander

    Then Vásquez should be good dealing with Bennett. Vásquez played with Chuck Hayes for two years in Toronto.

  • spiderman

    That may explain a lot

  • freemind
  • psalm234

    Coach Atkinson on AB, Rondae, LeVert, Vasquez, McCullough, Harris, Hamilton (per Bryan Fonseca)

    1 ‘The great thing about him is, in the new NBA, he’s like an undersized middle linebacker. He’s long and fast’ – Atkinson on Bennett. Atkinson praised Bennett’s commitment to getting in shape. Says he’s been impressive,’ would like to use him as a dual threat. #Nets

    2 More of Atkinson on @RondaeHJ24 work ethic: “He’s off the charts – he’s desperate to get better, that’s what I love about Rondae,”

    3 Atkinson on LeVert: “He’s about to strangle the coaching staff – he’s anxious – we think it’s a smart approach with a young player,”

    4 Atkinson on Vasquez: “He’s such an elite passer in the pick and roll. He’s like a 6’6 quarterback – can see over defense.
    When asked if Vasquez will play against Detroit Atkinson responded: “We haven’t even discussed our minutes yet,”

    5 More on McCullough: “He’s got more opportunities for growth b/c he hasn’t had a chance at any level.” Adds ‘loved him in summerleague’ #Nets

    6 Kenny Atkinson says Joe Harris has been a pleasant surprise. Also says Justin Hamilton has been great. #Nets

    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/783003938173878272
    https://twitter.com/BryanFonsecaNY/status/783001373126365184

  • lleepar
  • webattorney

    That’s how to motivate players. Hope it shows on the court.

  • Sundown

    BS used to talk about how bad all the players were. This is a much more intelligent approach.

  • Steppen03

    Yes, BScott known not to be a good coach. But I think he knew what was expected of him – glorify Kobe and lose lots of games. Not saying he cannot do it on his own – but he’d to took extra measures.

  • Steppen03

    People tends to be more motivated when given a second chance to redo their careers. But X factors are still coaching staff and leadership on the court. Many Nets players will have career stats – above expectations.

  • heart

    Speculation: This may mean that JayZ seeing Linsanity 2.0 on the horizon and wants in early so he may have exclusive rights or closer access to have some kind of collaboration…. And since JayZ is a ‘big name’ in NY, Montgomery may see that Lin will need more backing, so he’s joining hands w/ the big guys early… Either way, Lin will definitely get more interests once he puts up Linsanity #s or leads Nets to the playoffs. Barring any injury or unforeseen circumstances, Lin will get more suitors for the next contract, and hopefully it’s going to a max…

  • Keyo

    what’s that one leg hop for?

  • Click Click
  • Whitman Lam

    Mike Conley only had to put up 15.3 Pts, 6.1 Ast, and shoot 42% FG% last season, and not play 1 minute in the playoffs, to get his 5 year $153 million contract w/ Memphis Grizzlies …. The biggest contract in NBA history.

    Conley and Lin are about the same age, 28.

  • Click Click

    I hope we don’t see this happen with the Nets…

  • fungch1218

    When Lin interviewed about his agents, he only talked about Roger Montgomery.
    Is that mean Jim Tanner will be leaving?

  • takeme2cruz

    Should have said that when he’s gaining weight.

  • Geoffrey

    so JLin will definitely get better referee treatment this season! yes!

  • spiderman

    And Lin will continue to elevate everyone’s game, setting them up for better future contracts

  • Click Click

    Wow, Real Madrid just upset OKC, 142-137 in overtime. It was a crazy game.

    RM was the champions of Liga ACB, the 2nd best basketball league in the world.

    http://www.nba.com/gametracker/#/20161003/OKCRMD/thunder/analysis

  • Acbc

    Players do that also to suck up to bosses and be talking heads for them. BATUM is going to bat for them to make sure media knows that the bosses did a good job of assembling a good team.

  • heart

    This may be the only way Donatas can get away from Rox. Hopefully, someone will pick him up!

  • Arsenium12 .

    It seems that Robert Windrem (aka ‘Net Income’ from NetsDaily) is/was a longtime employee of NBC. This is from an article (2013) on the Seton Hall University web site :

    [Robert] Windrem is an award-winning producer for NBC News. For the past 32 years, he has been the network’s Investigative Producer/Special Projects, specializing in international affairs. At NBC, Windrem has focused on international security, strategic policy, intelligence and terrorism, working with industry figures such as Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams. In 2006, Seton Hall University named him a Distinguished Alumni. He is currently a member of the President’s Advisory Council, and also serves on the University’s Communications Advisory Board and the WSOU Advisory Council. [See : https://www13.shu.edu/news/article/438541#.V_LG0vkrLmF%5D
    __________
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcdea9879f0be6df06a1a73e8ad69a9c9289b5d19e870327567524482f95111e.jpg

  • Rick Johnson

    Is he the guy replying on Netsdaily twitter feed?

  • Rick Johnson

    Kind of sucks though because he’s still a restricted free agent.

    >> Motiejunas remains a restricted free agent. He just can’t unilaterally accept his one-year, $4,433,683 qualifying >> offer.

  • heart

    DMO wants to break free so bad from Rox, but Morey keeps holding him back and won’t give DMO appropriate PT or enough $ compensation. The only way is for DMO to get a new offer higher than the qualifying offer that Morey can’t or won’t match. But that’s highly unlikely, unless a team is desperately, or DMO gets waived or negotiates a buyout?

  • HVJoy

    Nice find! Thank you.

    Look at the the intense stare (with total admiration?) at JLin by JayZ. 🙂

  • HVJoy

    Thank you for the info on the “Roc Nation Sports”, heart.

    It seems to be a mutually beneficial business relationship for Lin and Roc Nation.

    JayZ, the successful musician, businessman, and former Nets partial owner, may have been impressed with Lin since Linsanity days. (Proof? See the photo below posted by Freemind).

  • heart

    You’re welcome. It’s very interesting to me too. God works in mysterious ways. It’s all good for Lin, no matter what…

  • Michael

    = = that franchise is held together by duct tape

  • Rick Johnson
  • Arsenium12 .

    Yes, as far as I know. On the @NetsDaily site it says “Tweets by Net Income”.

  • HVJoy

    I agree. 🙏

  • spiderman

    It must be a real challenge to not get a big head when you’re a celebrity

  • Arsenium12 .

    On HoopsHype I came upon the following list of the “all-time best undrafted players in the NBA.” Currently active players are highlighted. [see : http://hoopshype.com/2015/03/09/the-best-undrafted-players-in-nba-history/%5D

    Could anyone who has long exposure to the NBA comment on its validity? Is it without value? Thanks.
    __________
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe10996e6dbccb8021b8955f8fd865f81a881f00e5754e99e45a622197ccaedf.jpg

  • 1mtoldman

    there are more recent lists where he places higher.

    btw hornets game about 2 start.

    both teams not playing all assumed starters tho; mavs didn’t send any of starters except barnes to previous pelicans game.

  • KHuang

    Lin should be #1.

    Ben wallace #2

    John Starks #3

    Brad Miller #4

  • spiderman

    “Lin should be #1”
    Yes of course

  • Whitman Lam

    Lin and JJ Barea should definitely be in the Top 10. Barea especially, because he was a key piece of the championship Mavericks teams.
    Don’t know why Jose Calderon, Darrell Armstrong, or Andres Nicioni are ranked so high.

  • KHuang

    The gap between top international pro basketball and the NBA is not as far as Americans think.

    Also, I recall Justin Hamilton nearly being MVP in the Spanish League which is nearly as tough as the NBA in my opinion.

  • Geoffrey

    any Jimmer fans here:

  • takeme2cruz

    Lol, Btw for those didn’t know until now, Session is wearing number 7. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

  • kauaiblue

    Yeah, he was wierd there… makes me not want to ask fo an autograph… lol

  • kauaiblue

    Seems like a ballhog… but hes good…

  • BobbyH

    Only the performance matters. We shall see.

  • norah mackenzie

    yeah – why did he put on so much weight though ?

  • norah mackenzie

    hoping for the trial tbh – yikes to even have the guy on the roster – ” innocent till proven guilty” i know but his comments abt “consent”

  • norah mackenzie

    you mean surgical tape and band aids and by doctors on standby –

  • norah mackenzie

    someone sd make a prediction as to how many games noah and rose will play this season.

  • KHuang

    This has been soundly discussed:

    pro Jimmer me vs everyone else here who is totally anti Jimmer.

  • norah mackenzie

    toney douglas was with lin in the knicks – ironic that he is now on the same team as jr smith –

  • KHuang

    Cool then – he’ll get a nice gentle SCHOOLING from Lin fans about how good Lin is.

  • norah mackenzie

    can you add me as a neutral jimmer person – never heard of him much before the game

  • Click Click

    Sessions has been horrendous. 0 for 8 at the end of 3Q. Only points came from free throws… 3 points.

    http://www.nba.com/gametracker/#/20161003/CHADAL/hornets/analysis

    Not even Hornets homers and trolls on Reddit can defend his performance. They are completely screwed without Kemba.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/55qxll/game_thread_charlotte_hornets_dallas_mavericks/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CharlotteHornets/comments/55qwab/charlotte_horents_00_dallas_mavericks_10_preseason/

  • norah mackenzie

    fyi mavericks beat the hornets by 75-61 i think

  • Arsenium12 .

    Seth Curry has come of the bench for the Mavs to score 20 points in 22 minutes, so far [10 mins left in the 4th].

  • Click Click

    Please KHuang, I’ve been pro Jimmer and so are some others here. Most of us just aren’t willing to give him a pass on defense or think he’s a better shooter than Curry.

  • Steppen03

    Nothing is wrong there. He’s human with good and bad moments. Probably had a long tired day.

  • kauaiblue

    I was just kidding… although he seemed un jeremy like there

  • KHuang

    No, it’s a lot closer.

    Kaminsky and the bench pulled a “Lin” and brought the Hornets back.

    Bench Force 1/2.

  • Click Click
  • KHuang

    I didn’t think much of him last season, but I’ll pay him special attention this year.

    Seth Curry as a slow unathletic but freaky fun PG reminds me of Dwayne “The Pearl” Washington a bit.

  • KHuang

    If you don’t give Jimmer a pass defensively, then you are NOT PRO JIMMER.

    Jimmer’s defense is nowhere as bad as you claim.

  • Click Click

    88-95 Hornets lost. Hornets caught up with Lamb and Frank the Tank scoring in the 4th, but the game was never that close.

  • Click Click

    *sigh*

  • KHuang

    NOT MY CALL.

  • KHuang

    sure why not

    I know I’m the ONLY true pro Jimmer fan among Lin fans.

    The thing about most Lin fans is that they have no idea how SPOILED they are by watching Lin defend.

    Lin fans unaccustomed to watching other NBA players think that all guards defend as well as Lin.

    I keep trying to say it’s not like that, that Jeremy Lin is THE BEST defensive guard I’ve ever seen and that NOBODY defends as hard or as effectively on the perimeter as Lin does.

    So of course, an average or even below average defender like Jimmer looks like a SIEVE compared to Lin.

    But if Jimmer’s actual defense is compared to the rest of the NBA, people will see that he actually does a good job of keeping his man out of the paint and fighting around screens and reading coverages.

    Jimmer’s NBA numbers on defense look bad, sure. But that’s because Jimmer played on BAD TEAMS that had poor defense whether he was there or not. It’s no different from how Lin’s defensive numbers took a dive when he played for the Lakers, and yet Lin defended the same as he always has done despite no real help.

  • KHuang

    Correct as usual.

    Earlier in the game, the Hornets starters were being MURDERED by the Dallas reserves.

    For us Lin fans who had to endure the Charlotte starters getting bashed into garbage time before Lin even hit the court, we all know how frustrating that was.

    Lin’s not even a Hornet anymore and STILL it frustrates me!

  • KHuang

    Excelllent!

    Now let’s see this Lin hater watch how the Linless Hornets do…

  • Vincent

    lol bf1 was the best bench in the league at the time. they were the reason for the hornets success early then when it got broken up there were talks about the hornets not even making the playoffs.. However, i felt like Cliff seemed to want to put the ball in lambs hands more than lin when they were together

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    oh for love of God

  • lleepar
  • grover chang

    I’m thinking of buying NBA league pass. Are the preseason games being shown on pass. If not, how do I watch Nets preseason games.

  • freemind

    according to Forbes article dtd Feb 11, 2015 – A two year partnership between Creative Artists Agency and Roc Nation Sports is no more. RocNation separated from CAA Feb 2015

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/02/11/what-happens-now-that-roc-nation-sports-and-caa-split/#204fb6371fde

    …. then I saw this photo and had to do a double take … so Brett Yormark Brooklyn Nets & Barclays Center CEO has a twin brother Michael Yormark, the president and chief of branding and strategy for Roc Nation . Now the puzzle pieces are falling together … The Yormark twin power !!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a69c1cf0a8eec2c9391d9ca527a84f47dc4310af3adc40fa7aa1ae1a215b436e.jpg

  • Mr Chuckles

    I see at least some of the preseason games on League Pass.

  • Click Click

    Got another one! Like Tommy Dee, this moron blocked me on Twitter as soon as I exposed him.

    https://twitter.com/C_L_I_C_K/status/783144495865032704

  • Click Click
  • heart

    Good find. Investigative work. I should have researched further. Yep, the puzzle is falling into places… Either way, I think the dots of connection will show up eventually. BTW, if you can or don’t mind, could you paste the article here. Can’t see it. Thanks…

  • spiderman

    Lin’s the most generous celebrity there is for photos and autographs…

    I was just suggesting that all the adulation and coddling from public would make it hard to be humble for anyone

  • DX

    I just watch on free streaming website.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is a YouTube video showing the celebration on the 4th anniversary of the opening of Mari Vanna. An interesting choice for dinner …
    __________

  • DX

    The biggest gap was 19 points.

  • Rick Johnson

    Russian restaurant. Perhaps Prokhorov’s choice.

  • freemind
  • ProLin

    figures. lol…

  • ProLin

    plenty of lin fans will make this guy eat his words.

  • freemind

    Here goes Forbes article

    SPORTSMONEY 2/11/2015 @ 9:05AM 22,704 views
    What Happens Now That Roc Nation Sports And CAA Split
    A two year partnership between Creative Artists Agency and Roc Nation Sports is no more. Such was confirmed by a Roc Nation representative. The companies have opted not to extend the business relationship that largely empowered Jay Z to create a sports agency under the title of Roc Nation Sports, which now represents numerous star professional athletes including New York Yankees pitcher CC Sabathia, Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant, Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant.

    As of yesterday, CAA and Roc Nation are no longer intertwined in the formal partnership that began in early 2013 with the duo signing Robinson Cano and eventually negotiating Cano’s $240 million, 10 year contract. However, a Roc Nation spokesperson noted that while the two companies have officially separated, the representation of athletes they currently share will stay the same.

    “It was a very amicable split,” said the Roc Nation spokesperson. ”It’s not like Roc Nation will take Dez Bryant from Tom Condon. Tom will do his thing; Kim Miale will do her thing.”

    As of now, Dez Bryant is still represented by both Roc Nation and CAA. Photo: Mark Runyon | Pro Football Schedules

    Condon is a veteran football agent with over 40 NFL clients signed to Standard Representation Agreements. He has worked at CAA for many years, but has also been the subject of recent rumors regarding his potential departure from the company.

    Miale was hired by Roc Nation Sports soon after the sports agency opened its doors. She was added to Jay Z’s startup for the specific purpose of representing NFL players and quickly signed New York Jets quarterback Geno Smith.

    When Roc Nation launched its sports agency, Jay Z’s startup did not have any agents under contract. The partnership with CAA served its purpose for Roc Nation; the company was put on a fast track for growth, signing the previously named athletes as well as Victor Cruz, Yoenis Cespedes, Todd Gurley, Skylar Diggins, Hakeem Nicks and many other household names.

    Roc Nation certainly benefited from the short-term association, but so did CAA. The commission on Robinson Cano’s contract will continue to reach CAA’s bank account (as will all other jointly negotiated contracts) despite the end of its partnership with Roc Nation. There is no guarantee that Cano would have signed with CAA without the partnership in place.

    “We have had a great relationship with CAA in this short time of 2 years and are grateful,” said Juan Perez, President of Roc Nation Sports. ”We are ready to stand on our own. We built Roc Nation Sports into a home for hard working, dedicated world class athletes.”

    Roc Nation’s partnership with CAA had a 2 year term. It ended. The key is that nothing changes for the athletes that the two entities signed together. However, if Roc Nation signs an athlete tomorrow, it will be a Roc Nation Sports athlete both for team contracts and for off-field work.

  • TTNN

    who start as their point guard? I thought Walker is not playing yet, right?

  • Click Click

    I kinda guessed that but didn’t bother to Google it lol.

    Just read that article. It was a rumor that Proky owns the joint. He doesn’t, but probably could if he wanted to.

  • Arsenium12 .

    FYI : The current Roc Nation bball client list includes :

    Kevin Durant
    Caris Levert (Brooklyn)
    Justise Winslow (Miami)
    Wilson Chandler (Denver)
    Willie Cauley-Stein (Sacramento)
    James Young (Boston)

    They represent about 30 athletes in all. See : http://rocnation.com/sports/

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    I was driving into Manhattan today via downtown Brooklyn, and I must say I got happier just thinking about (1) the Nets season starting with JLin as the starting PG, (2) the potential of Linsanity 2 happening, (3) the pre-season game this Thursday I’m going to watch with my family, and (4) the fact that JLin lives right there in Brooklyn! For a New Yorker like myself, JLin coming back to NY as a Nets’ starter has so much potential for a drama and ride cooler than the first NY ride back in the original Linsanity days. I was so sad when he wasn’t signed by the Knicks that season. I must admit that the potential for what could be a really sweet revenge this season has been worth the wait!

    Will send you updates from the Barclay Center this Thursday!

    -Megan-

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    BTW, I might be able to give away some free tickets to this Thursday’s preseason game against the Pistons and next Thursday’s game against the Celtics. I don’t know the exact numbers yet but please email me and I’ll put your name on the list.
    mdekhre@gmail.com Please put “preseason ticket request” in the subject line.

  • Rick Johnson

    So does Montgomery joining Roc Nation have any bearing on Lin? Is he now partly represented by Roc Nation?

  • norah mackenzie

    well it is universal abt ramon sessions. maybe too early to tell but spencer not doing well – or marvin very surprising

  • norah mackenzie

    i have no idea – just read the comments – wanted to see the score

  • TVN

    This Dowsett guy is basically going off of last season in regards to Lin. I just checked their stats, and Sessions did have season as good as and maybe a little better than Lin in terms of stats. Sessions shot 47% FG which was better than Lin. His per 36 numbers were similar. Both had similar roles as backup PG’s, though Lin played a majority of his minutes off the ball, as well, while Sessions was strictly Wall’s backup.

    Lin has a chance to show what he can do, and hopefully he does it.

  • CJSHYY

    Wait for your report.

  • norah mackenzie

    agreed – to compare lin 2012 vs lin 2016 is unfair cos he has improved on all aspects of his game – but pple dont want to praise him for that for their own reasons – maybe like jimmer who knows

  • norah mackenzie

    ok i better check the result again – thks

  • blueCypher

    I was wondering this too. Since roger is a co agent for lin, is lin a co roc nation lol

  • norah mackenzie

    i guess his vibe feels right – like lin and brook and rhj and harris – they just seem to gel – but pple were passing the ball very spurs like

  • Click Click

    That’s the problem with guys like this. They only look at stats. Stats are very useful but only tell half the story. Sessions and Lin might have similar stats, but Lin is waaay more valuable than Sessions and that’s not even debatable. It’s also not because we’re huge Lin fans. It’s just facts and common sense.

    Also, he was totally wrong about Lee having a negative NetRtg. He’s somehow a senior writer for BBall Insiders and worked for other stat-tracking media outlets. I linked an article to his own site that destroys his factually incorrect comment. That’s why he blocked me from Twitter.

  • norah mackenzie

    i hope that seth curry does well there tbh –

  • norah mackenzie

    why put lin so low down? calderon has been on so many teams – raptors/mavs/knicks – i dont think his being “undrafted” was that big an issue

  • Arsenium12 .

    I don’t think that Roger Montgomery has been very successful building his agency beyond Jeremy. I don’t really know why Roc Nation would want Montgomery if Lin didn’t go with him. I could be wrong but that’s my guess.

  • TVN

    But his argument is that Sessions was “better than Lin last year”, which some stats support. How would you go about arguing that?

    If I wanted a starting PG, Lin would be my choice, obviously, but that’s based on the body of work of his career, obviously the run he had as a Knick, and what I believe he can potentially do.

    As a Lin fan, I really don’t care about the “haters” and don’t spend any time on them. Lin has as good of an opportunity as he ever will to prove he’s as good as we all think he is. His play and how the team performs will be what matters, not what his army of fans say.

  • Click Click

    ESPN’s “Future Power Rankings” has Nets 2nd to last.

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/3/13158230/espn-sean-marks-moving-nets-out-of-future-basement

    http://insider2text.xyz/articles/97b37c5ac5ec313c

    https://i.sli.mg/9bpQco.png

    They’re so clueless and these rankings are so pointless.

  • Click Click

    Easy. I argue that Lin played a major role on a good, playoff team. He was one of the main reasons why Hornets even made it to the playoffs and the main reason why they won 3 straight games against a favored Heat team. He led the Hornets to victories against some of the best teams in the league, including the champion Cavs and one of the best regular season teams Spurs, after being 23 point down. Sessions can’t do any of that.

  • orLinaryjoe

    So cool, and so sorry I’m not in NY.

  • TVN

    I get that you’re upset as a Lin fan about these things, but what did you expect? Would you disagree about this if Lin was on another team? The Nets are the most unknown commodity in the NBA. They return the least amount of players from last season and none of their newcomers were starters last season except for Scola, who ended the season out of the Raptors’ rotation and is in his late 30’s.

    My hope is that somehow the Nets can surprise everyone and shock the basketball world by winning big. I’m looking forward to seeing how they look so I can gauge just good (or bad) they are.

  • Brewkowski

    Very cool and considerate. Wish I lived a wee bit closer to take advantage of this. Thanks!

  • Click Click

    I was in shock and completely disappointed when Knicks, Dolan, and Melo didn’t make Lin any offer and lied to him and the fans about matching. I still followed Lin and watched him play on the Rockets, Lakers, and Hornets, but it wasn’t the same. New York City was where his NBA career blew up and took off. It was where fans embraced Lin and loved him.

    Now he’s back where he belongs, where he has said multiple times that he felt he needed to be and has unfinished business here. It’s the beginning of phase 2 of his dreams and God’s perfect plan for him!

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is an excerpt from an Aug, 2016, article by Dowsett. He’s all-in on the Hornets …

    The Hornets were already better than you thought they were, and they’ve only improved after one of the best offseasons in the league. They’re primed to compete for the two seed in the East, and could stand above starrier names as the greatest challengers to the conference’s dominant defending champion.

    See : http://www.basketballinsiders.com/how-charlotte-became-clevelands-biggest-eastern-obstacle/

  • Click Click

    I’m not upset. I used to be, but not anymore. Now, I’m just laughing at these clueless critics and pundits.

    That’s the thing, if Lin was on another team, the Nets would be where the media says they should be ranked at. However, we all know what Lin can do for a team. These critics and pundits don’t believe in Lin’s capabilities. They underrate him, dismiss him, and look down on him. They think he’ll help the Nets improve, but only slightly.

  • takeme2cruz

    Ben Dowset is on his way to overdosed.

  • Rick Johnson

    NetsDaily.com
    ‏@NetsDaily NetsDaily.com Retweeted JT894
    Told all 20 Nets, coaching staff and front office dined together. This is how teams bond in New York! Tab could rival luxury taxes paid!
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/783164753749413888

  • KHuang

    What?

    You’ve been trolling me over this.

    You got a problem with me liking Jimmer’s production?

    Administration, please don’t protect this troll by keeping his taunts and deleting my posts. Let this one STAND.

  • KHuang

    Terribly WEAK argument as usual.

    Sessions doesn’t defend, score, play great against elite teams, or break records like Lin does.

    We BOTH get that you as a LONGTIME LIN DOUBTER has never truly believed in Lin. But for basketball’s sake, please don’t PRETEND that a career scrub like Sessions had a dramatic winning impact like Lin last season.

    Don’t make nonLin guys more than they are, just to make Lin look weaker than he actually is.

  • Click Click

    Yeah, the guy is delusional. Not even most Hornets homers are this delusional. I bet he didn’t even watch the Hornets play last season.

  • KHuang

    I’ve argued those things against TVN for the LAST 4 YEARS.

    He’s got a lot riding on his belief that lots of guys are “statistically better than Lin”.

  • KHuang

    Bench Force One wasn’t even close to the strongest lineup that Clifford could have put out.

    The strongest Charlotte lineup was the one game special that Clifford mistakenly nearly put out in preseason in a massive blowout against NY last season. I called it before the season started, and Lin didn’t even play that game:

    Lin, Lamb, Williams, Kaminsky, Hansbrough.

    Hansbrough had 10 points and 10 rebounds in 20 minutes that game, which absolutely is All Star level production that someone like Charles Barkley would do in the same amount of time.

  • Vincent

    i felt like lin and spencer hawes had good chemistry even though he lacked the ability to finish around the rim. however he could knock it down from 3

  • Click Click

    Yeah, I can tell he’s not a believer of Lin’s capabilities, just like the critics, pundits, and haters, but claims he’s a Lin fan.

  • Click Click

    This was the actual strongest lineups from last season…

    Lin, Kemba, Big Al, Marv, and Batum was by far the best lineup. However, they only played 89 minutes together, 6th most out of all lineups.

    https://i.sli.mg/jXqZZp.png

  • KHuang

    TVN and I used to have fights about whether Lin could even play in the NBA – during THIS offseason, I might add!!!

    He’s moved beyond that to wondering whether Lin can succeed with the Nets, which is a legitimate question.

  • KHuang

    Spencer Hawes turned me into a believer.

    In the beginning of the season, I hated his weak out of shape softie game where he played SCARED on the perimeter and passively drew defenders over to jam Lin up high. He was SO BAD, I felt that Clifford should’ve DNP CD’d him.

    But as the season progressed, Hawes got stronger and tougher and meaner and more productive. He got into much better shape and Lin made sure Hawes was playing the right way.

    It paid off because in the playoffs, Hawes was the 2nd most productive Hornet behind Lin!

    That said, Hansbrough was the most productive player of the bigs. He deserved to play over Hawes simply because he produced more.

  • Click Click

    It depends on what the definition of success is. Everyone has their own subjective opinion of success.

    Is it surpassing 30 wins this season because everyone is predicting 20-29? Is it an appearance in the playoffs? Is it winning a series or two in the playoffs?

    Or personal stats for Lin like 16/7 or 18/8 or 20/5? Maybe Lin being selected and voted into the all-star game for the first time?

  • KHuang

    I guess for TVN, the definition of success is “Ramon Sessions is better than Jeremy Lin.”

    To that, I highly recommend AtTheHive as a pro Sessions forum that feels that “Sessions is “better than Lin”.

    However, TVN would have to argue his case very strongly over on that forum because many of the hardcore NBA fans there don’t believe that “Sessions is better than Lin.” It’ll take a lot more than what he wrote on this forum to convince the astute Hornets fans there of his stance.

  • ProLin

    well it’s boss’ restaurant so not that bad, lol

  • ProLin

    this is great, another writer gonna eat their words and say crap like “shocking!” “unexpected” when the Nets do well.

  • Icelander

    Waiving the flag as an “amateur” Jimmer fan … Khuang takes care of the “pro” side!

  • casual bb fan

    LOL. “Nets were deceptively good.” Haha cheers

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Gather their names and hold them responsible. Of course, they could use a new name but it will be a deterrent for writing nonsense..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    When the fact comes out, remind them their faulty statements! Justice will be served eventually.

  • norah mackenzie

    the hornets lost – the bulls lost

  • norah mackenzie

    what sort of food is served there? maybe soup?

  • TVN

    LOL, you haven’t been a fan since maybe a couple of years ago. You barely know anything about Lin. I first saw him during his Junior Year at Palo Alto. You claim to be some expert, but you’re just a younger version of KHuang.

  • TVN

    LOL, you love to twist people’s words to whatever delusion comes across your mind. Few of your opinions and views align with reality–like this weird infatuation you have with Jimmer Fredette.

  • TVN

    Where does it say that I believe Sessions is a better player than Lin? Ramon is a good backup PG.

    Jeremy is potential All-Star, but that has to happen now, in his Age 28 season. If that’s casting doubt on his abilities, then you have some lack reading comprehension.

    Hopefully, you don’t find some weird ways to twist those words.

  • TVN

    The critics and pundits aren’t people that closely follow Lin. Based on what he’s done since his season with the Knicks, they have no reason to believe that his addition alone can bring the Nets to the playoffs. They look at the other additions, and they believe there’s not much to see there either.

    I personally believe the Nets can be a playoff team, but I’ll know more after maybe 4 preseason games. It all depends on what Atkinson’s approach to the preseason is. It is to give the back-end players PT to figure out the final cuts or is it to use the games to establish chemistry with most of the team new?

    For me, I’ll be looking to see how Lin and Lopez play with each other and whether the supporting pieces (whoever emerges) are there to help.

  • norah mackenzie

    didnt check –

  • 1mtoldman

    just scanning some stuff below…probably not the best time to be defending ramon sessions after he goes 0 for 7 and gets torched by jj barea; the entire hornets backcourt (kemba didn’t play) was useless against both seth curry and barea and whoever for mavs and 3 of the mavs starters didn’t even play; only when the mavs put in their “third team” (and the hornets did not) did the game get some semblance of closeness.

    rescanning the boxscore correction sessions was 0 for 8; hawes led the horents in assists (tied) and the only hornets backcourt player with and postive “+/-” was jeremy lamb.

  • BobbyH

    Without Lin and Al, Hornets and so called experts will be in a shock period of wondering what is going on when they start losing.

  • grover chang

    Your not alone. I’ve followed sessions before and he is not bad player. He has the mindset of a true pg.

  • grover chang

    When Nets start winning I’m very interested in what the reasons the experts will say. The Nets will be so much smarter and fundamental I wonder if people will recognize that. Because fundamental basketball seems to be lost on the talking heads.

  • Sueki

    that’s his opinion. no big deal 🙂

  • BobbyH

    Anyone knows why Lin stop and stand on the left foot for a second when shooting 3s in the corner in the video below?

  • norah mackenzie

    so what happened to him during the game? he’s been around for a long time – was he nervous?

  • norah mackenzie

    and this was only the pre season –

  • norah mackenzie

    somehow the hornets just looked like headless chickens running around – they needed a floor general for sure

  • norah mackenzie

    they will never admit that they were wrong – same thing for the hornets last season they said they wd win abt 30-35 games and wouldnt make the playoffs –

  • norah mackenzie

    why did they choose sessions i wonder?

  • Arsenium12 .

    I noticed that the second year of the Hornets’ deal with Ramon Sessions is a team option. So, they don’t seem to be totally committed to him.
    __________
    See : http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sessira01.html

  • BobbyH

    We shall see how the two leaders fan out without Lin.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • heart
  • norah mackenzie

    looking forward to that – batum and walker –

  • norah mackenzie

    because he is making sure that any knicks fans dont cast the evil eye on him probably – maybe carmelo was hiding in the stands. LOL

  • Alaingrvis

    he did it with both legs as well as the right and left. i guess it helps him get use to shooting from awkward positions but still keep his form right

  • Acbc

    You’ve probably seen lots of players do a step back corner 3s. In almost all cases, the player will be off balanced and pushing off the left leg. This is what Lin was practicing.

  • grover chang

    Sorry. Didn’t watch the game. Just know sessions from his past seasons.

  • Acbc

    You combine two trains of thought together and mixed into one. Yes the nets are an unknown commodity. Yes if Lin wasn’t on the team, we’d all be saying they have no chance.

    However when you add Lin into the equation WITH the Nets, then you and the rest of the people on this board have a known quantifier. Lin will make the unknowns great with the help of only Lopez just as in Linsanity when he only had Chandler.

    The ignorant masses may know nothing about what Lin can do OR SIMPLY IGNORE THAT LIN HAD ALREADY DONE WITH THE KNICKS DURING LINSANITY. We know better and it annoys us that they ignore that fact that Lin IS A NET! So yeah we do take it personal.

  • KHuang

    You’re the one twisting words.

    When you write that “Ramon Sessions had better stats than Lin”, your WRONG analysis will be DEBUNKED.

    You’ve been doing anti Lin analysis for the last four years, TVN. Seems that you won’t change. So head onto atthehive and follow your boy Sessions if you think he’s “better than Lin”.

  • KHuang

    You wanna talk DELUSION, TVN?

    Your cockamanie notiom that “Sessions had a statistically superior season to Lin” is a FLAT OUT LIE.

    You go ahead and PRETEND that Lin didn’t break records and beat elite teams and dominate the playoffs and lead NBA guards in blocks and all that over stuff.

    That’s what you Lin haters do. PRETEND.

  • KHuang

    TVN is entitled to his opinion that “Ramon Sessions had a statistically superior season to Lin” and that “Ramon Sessions is better than Lin”.

    But where are the block party stats, the playoff dominance, the broken records, the massive +/-, the singlehanded beatdowns of playoff teams, the All Star level starting stats?

    If TVN wants to claim that Sessions is “statistically superior”, I say that TVN should step up and name examples of Sessions “statistically outperformed” Sessions in these key areas.

  • KHuang

    A true 2nd or 3rd string unimpactful PG, yes.

    Yesterday’s game was a TYPICAL Ramon Sessions game. – and this is THE GUY that TVN says is “better than Lin”.

  • KHuang

    I’ve known about Sessions since he was a D League player trying to break into the NBA long before he ditched the Lakers starting job to sign up with Charlotte to be a reserve nearly 10 years ago.

    Sessions is an athletically limited 3rd string PG who is fundamentally sound enough to put up inconsequential stats on mediocre teams. He’s not a player that impacts games, no matter what TVN says about how Sessions is “better than Lin”.

  • KHuang

    Oh, so Lin repeatedly turning around bad teams is “no reason to believe that Lin can succeed with the Nets”, huh?

    You ARE a Lin hater indeed, just like you always have been and always will be.

  • norah mackenzie

    well i saw him with the wizards thought he was pretty ok but judging by this pre season game – very disappointing tbh – i thought he was supposed to be ” hot stuff”

  • norah mackenzie

    who paid?

  • Brent Yen

    He tried both legs….

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I don’t know what effect this will have with Lin…Not really into the ROC Nation thing anyway….so does that mean Lin is with ROC Nation or is it just the Roger guy going to work for them to sway other clients.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    does anyone know whether the preseason games are on NBA league pass…I’m thinking about ordering now, but only if they have the preseason games on…I would also like to see the Nets/Detroit game tomorrow.

    I remember that someone had stated the preseason games were free last year….the league pass channels are all locked for me unless I pay for it.

  • grover chang

    I asked and was told no Nets preseason games.

  • CJSHYY

    What? Why?

  • Sundown

    Their website says the game will be on League Pass:
    http://www.nba.com/games/20161006/DETBKN#/matchup

  • takeme2cruz

    That the Apache traditional dance before going to war.

  • BobbyH

    Statistics in a basketball sport is sometimes misleading when
    eventuating individual contributions and performance on the courts and
    the games. Different players on different teams have different coach-controlled roles and
    minutes.

    If Sessions played for Scott and Lakers in 2014, I would say Sessions would have better stats than Lin as he will become the head of the snake instead of Rice.

    If Sessions played for Clifford and Hornets in 2015, would he play better than Lin? That is a question to be answered the coming season, as the question if Linsanity is a fluke will be answered the same year.

  • Tolin

    My guess is that he want to have his 2 weapons open (shooting and penetration). It all depends on his first step which is his right foot. It makes sense to me.

  • grover chang

    I was told by a rep YES network is showing preseason games.

  • CJSHYY

    I can’t watch Yes Network in CA. smh!

  • 1mtoldman

    with 10 NBA preseason games in the books interesting that 2 of the 4 top individual scores are NOT NBA players. (fredette and llull)

  • Alaingrvis

    maybe they play longer

  • Arsenium12 .

    An early clip (2008) of Jeremy. The YouTube caption says: “Lin blows past Jerry Showers, then dunks over Jon Sanders and Maurice Brown.” [Hat tip : jeremylin[dot]net].
    __________

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is another video I noticed on YouTube with some really nice sequences of Jeremy in action.
    __________

  • pandaboy99

    Geez that step at 2:30 is like a flash step.

  • heart

    #32 tried to show up on Lin by dunking on him. From that dunk, you could tell from Lin’s face that he got motivated and would answer him. That guy knew it so he tried to avoid being near the basket whenever Lin gets near the basket. Later, Lin still got a dunk back, but on #35, along w/ several layups and steals. Lin alone got 40 or 50pts on this game w/ a win if IIRC.

  • Arsenium12 .

    The Mari Vanna restaurant Facebook page says that the dinner was “arranged” by Irina Pavlova, who is one of Prokhorov’s executives (President, Onexim Sports and Entertainment Holding, USA).

    For the menu (very upscale), go here : http://www.marivanna.ru/ny/#/menu/

  • TVN

    No one is “defending” Sessions. The whole discussion is based on some Jazz beat writer claiming that Sessions was “way better” than Lin last season. The poster Click Click threw a hissy fit over that, but I just noted that statistically, that Jazz beat writer could argue for Sessions. Then that devolved into a notion that I think Sessions is a superior player to Lin, which isn’t the case. Pointing out that Sessions’ per 36 numbers were similar to Lin’s is not “defending” him.

  • TVN

    He’s a backup PG, why would they be committed to that?

  • ProLin

    I’m sure they ate for free.

  • Click Click

    You’re definitely defending Sessions in your posts below. Stop lying. You even claimed that I can’t argue Sessions had a better season last year than Lin… which I promptly did.

    LOL hissy fit, nice one. Dowsett claimed that Sessions is better than Lin, EASILY. I called him out on that and also on his statement that Lee had a negative NetNtg. Before I could destroy him on the Lin part, he already blocked me because I destroyed him using his own website that he writes for on the Lee part.

    https://twitter.com/C_L_I_C_K/status/783144495865032704

  • Chris B.

    For anyone doubting Jeremy and the Nets, I went back and took a look at the rosters for the Rockets and Hornets and did a comparison of those rosters to the current Nets roster. A little context will help. In the 2011-2012 season prior to the arrival of Jeremy in Houston, the Rockets had a record of 34–32 (.515) due the a shorten season.

    On that roster, they had: Dalembert, Scola, Parsons, Kevin Martin, Tragic, Lowry, Greg Smith, Patrick Patterson and Marcus Morris. That is a pretty decent roster.

    When Houston started the 2012-2013 season, they had Omer, Aaron Brook, Francisco Garcia, James Harden, Jeremy, Terrence Jones, DMO, Parsons, Greg Smith and James Anderson. They ended the year with 45–37 (.549) record and made the playoff.

    If you compare the rosters based on the start of that season to the start of this season, the Nets will come out on top. Here is the break down.

    Jeremy Lin >>> Jeremy Lin

    He was coming off injuries and not as experience as he is now, also not as good defensively

    Bog << Parsons

    Based on the result of their rookie season, RHJ comes out ahead. Parsons was a lower first round pick from previous season. RHJ has more hype for him now than Parsons does when he started the season that year. RHJ is a much better athlete and a better defensive player. If RHJ can be a decent shooter, I will add another > for him

    Booker > Terrence Jones

    Booker is a known player and is much more experience than Jones. He is also more athletic, and is in his athletic prime right now. It was TJ rookie season

    Brook >>> Omer

    Hands of stone. No need to explain.

    Nets backups >> Houston backups

    Skilpatrick, Scola, Vasquez, Foye, Hamilton, Harris > Greg Smith, James Anderson, Carlos Delfino, Aaron Brook

    Atkinson >> McHale

    McHale is possibly one of the worst coach ever. His one and only single play was to give to Harden to iso.

    So, this season, I expect the Nets to blow that Houston team out of the water in term of win/loss.

    Now, lets compare this Nets team to the Hornets team last season. In the previous season, they had a 33-49 records (.402). They ended up with a 45–37 (.549) records. At the start of the season, the rosters consist of Batum, JLin, Walker, Marvin William, Cody Zeller, Spencer Hawes, Kaminsky, Al Jefferson. I don’t count MKG because he was injured most of season. Looking at the roster, it look quite decent. A closer look reveal that it was a below or bad a bad one. Batum was coming off a terrible year with Blazers. Blazers was all too happy to dump him. He is still wildly overrated. He is more suited as a role player on Blazers where there are other talents to protect him. Prior to last season, Kemba was one of the least efficient PG in the league. He was known as a chucker without the defense. He as shooting below 39% and 30% on 3’s. Frank was a rookie. And he still sucks by the way. Marvin William was a journeyman. Nothing really special about him. You can make the case that Al Jefferson was their best player. Spencer was so bad, Clippers wanted to dump him at all cost. Cody was and still is one of the weakest Big in the NBA. The guy can jump, but can’t even finish a dunk. Lamb was just a journeyman as well. Nothing to brag about.

    Jeremy Lin >>> Jeremy Lin

    I give Jeremy 3 > because he is now actually getting to play PG. It’s not that his skills is much better. He will get to play with his own pace and style unlike Clifford who intentionally made Jeremy go stand in the corner as ballboy for Batum and Kemba.

    Jeremy Lin as PG >> Kemba

    Jeremy is a much better leader and floor general. Kemba has tunnel vision and doesn’t know how to pace the game. He does not know or understand about personal and how to distribute the ball to the right player at the right time. All he ever does is to iso and chuck. I can’t remember how many times he shot the team out of the game because of his selfishness. Jeremy is also a better defensive player.

    RHJ > Courtney Lee + PJ Harrison

    Courtney Lee defense was actually underrated. He usually appeared in some of the Hornets best lineups. However, we have to remember that Courtney Lee came much later in the season. RHJ has more potential though as he is much longer, and more athletic. He is was one of the best defensive player last year even as a rookie. He is younger, but not just a raw rookie this time around.

    Bog > on this one.

    Booker = Marvin

    Both players were coming off so so year. Nothing to brag about for both player statistically. However, I will give an edge to Booker because is more athletic and younger.

    Lopez >>> Al + Cody

    It’s not so much that Al was bad, it’s just he was a misfit in the new offense. He ended up on the bench. Lopez is one of the top 5 centers in the league. With Jeremy on this team, he might be a top 1 or 2.

    Atkinson < Clifford

    Clifford is not as good as everyone think. He stunk the season before. He is also very stubborn and rather lose by not having Jeremy as a true backup PG . The could have gone far in playoff if he had done that. I cannot respect any coach that doesn't place winning above all else. As a coach, politic is secondary to play to win. However, with that being said, Atkinson is still a rookie coach. He is unknown. With that being said, you really can never know. Players can have have breakout year, and so do coaches. Just like how Mike Budenholzer turned the Hawks around. Sean Marks and Atkinson all came from the same organization and coaching tree.

    Nets bench < Hornets

    I give the Hornets a slight edge one this one. If you actually look at the bench depth, Nets have a better all-around bench compare to Hornets with the exception of Jeremy. Al, Frank, Spencer, Lamb are not better than Scola, Foye, Skilpatrick, Vasquez and Harris. I haven't even mention Whitehead and Levert yet. They can be solid players by season end. Net's have a good balance of solid veterans and young promising players. They can sustain leads for the starters. I really believe that the bench will surprise a lot of people.

    Overall, just having Jeremy play at his best position will make this Nets team a lethal force. Jeremy has helped so many players had some of their best years when Jeremy was playing with them. Once Jeremy left, most regressed and became pretty average again. This year is no different. Many of the Nets players are on short-term contract. They are young and hungry. This Nets team has the potential to be much, much better than last year Hornets. Nets have a chip on their shoulders. They even have a better, more sustainable culture than Hornets. Call me crazy, but they if Hornets can get 48 wins last year, Nets will win at least 50 this year.

  • Click Click

    To be fair, they didn’t have Kemba last night. Sessions was not able to do what Lin did for the Hornets last year: lead the team, be the floor general, and score when Kemba and/or Batum are out. Heck, Sessions looked worse than a D-Leaguer last night. Batum also couldn’t be that lone leader last night. So yeah, the Hornets was playing like a headless chicken lol.

  • BobbyH

    LOL. War dance.

  • Click Click

    LOL Tragic. 😀

  • webattorney

    They are being shown. That’s why I signed up for League Pass. Also, the first game against Pistons is not tomorrow but on Thursday, Oct th.

  • webattorney

    Good job Click. Some of these so-called sports writers make up stuff. Ramon Sessions is a decent 15 minutes per game player from what I saw, but he doesn’t have Lin’s ability to shift to the 2nd gear.

  • TVN

    Where exactly did I “claim” that you “can’t argue that Sessions had a better season than Lin last year”?

    All I asked was “how would you go about arguing that”?

    Reading comprehension, buddy.

  • Click Click

    Keep falling back on semantics, buddy. When you get exposed, that’s all you got.

  • TVN

    LOL, you are one or two steps away from KHuang territory, which is a bad place to be.

    You’ve tried to misrepresent what I’ve said, and nothing YOU come up with can change that.

  • Rick James

    going 0-7 is a typical game?? If that was the case, he would not be in the nba, let alone making 6m/yr. Your blind lin fandom prevents you from accepting facts. Yesterdays game was a pre season game, ie, everyone is sloppy after their first day back. How many 0-X, 1-X, 2-X, games has lin had last season? More than you think.

  • Click Click

    LOL it’s nice to have trolls, haters, and doubters like you back on this site. Where have you been all summer? Hiding in your troll cave or on the other site trolling with alt accounts?

  • takeme2cruz

    Great research. People can disagree a few positions you listed there about their but your points were well set, the Nets shouldn’t be the worst team in the league, not even close.

    BTW, it should be Atkinson >>> Clifford since Atkinson will put winning above anything else.

  • BobbyH

    Great post. But I have to disagree on the last two. Atkinson>>Cliff and Nets bench >> Hornets bench. Just my opinion.

    Yet, I won’t be surprised if Nets can get the same 45 wins like Hornets did last year.

  • TVN

    Where were you before last year? I don’t remember you posting here in 2009 or 2010, before Lin was even in the NBA, so pipe down. You think you’re some “Super Fan”, which utterly laughable.

  • Rick James

    tragic bronson:

  • Click Click

    I didn’t bother with Lin fansites and forums or Twitter before last year. Too many people like you constantly trolling and doubting Lin.

    I never claimed to be a Lin fan before Linsanity. That’s when I first started watching him. I also never claimed to be a “Super Fan.” Nice job making that up. You’re utterly laughable.

    Still not going to answer where you were all summer, eh?

  • TVN

    Nice post.

    On the Atkinson < Clifford thing, I'll disagree. Clifford yo-yo'ed Lin, which had an effect on his stats. We were led to believe that Lin's role would be consistent, but it changed from game to game. Imagine if MKG was available, what kind of minutes would Lin have seen? 20 maybe? If Atkinson lets Lin lead, like logic would dictate, Atkinson comes out ahead, in my book.

    Pretty agree with everything else. You have two gifted offensive players in Lin and Lopez in their primes along with a supporting cast that could potentially complement them at a decent level. That looks like a playoff team to me.

  • lleepar
  • Click Click

    I personally believe Marks is set with his roster. The Nets’ substantial extra money in cap space will be utilized in other ways; better ways… such as being part of a 3-team trade for salary dump, in return for picks.

    Donatas is too scary for most teams to make an offer. His back issues are pretty bad. Morey has been trying to get rid of this guy for a while and no teams have shown much interest. I wouldn’t be against the Nets offering Mo a value contract, but I don’t think that’s what Marks will do.

  • LinMadd

    He wants to master shooting while unbalanced

  • LinMadd

    They’ll need Batum and Walker to show up every night. Only problem is that Batum is very inconsistent and Walker requires back court help to light up.

  • LinMadd

    Anyone know where I can catch the preseason games online? Does league pass broadcast them? I forgot.

  • takeme2cruz

    They do but with purchase.

  • BobbyH

    Coincidence?

    ROC Nation President: Michael Yormark, the sports agency that Lin’s agent just joined.

    Brooklyn Sports & Entertainment CEO: Brett Yormark

    BTW, they are twin brothers.

  • Click Click

    Sixers using the best foot doctor in the business, who performed Brook, LeVert, and Durant’s surgeries:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct8TYY9XYAQH7Wa.jpg

  • Chris B.

    Yeah. As much as I like DMo, I don’t think it’s wise to sign him. Hamilton is earning rave review from Atkinson. He and Scola will be more than adequate. Having cap reflexibility will help them in free-agency next year as well has helping facilitate trades down the road. I don’t think Sean Mark will risk it for an injured player.

  • Dan Ang

    That was EPIC, Click Click, fantastic job! Wished you’d tweeted Crying Jordans for the cherry on top.

  • JW
  • psalm234

    Brett Yormark, the Nets marketing guru, sees the immense global marketing potential that only Lin uniquely offers in the NBA and invests in a long-term relationship. This can only help Lin to get favorable calls on the media and hopefully on-court as the face of the franchise.

  • Steppen03

    Good work! Well said!
    That’s what I’ve been saying all along. The Nets have potential to grab 3rd to 6th seed. Remember: that Rockets team 1st year was also looked down by many critics. Same for Hornet. Same for The Nets. Thing here is: I really believe Marks/Atkinson tried to surround BrookLin with good supporting cast – and believe that they “Can” make the playoffs.

  • psalm234

    I’m inclined to agree that Sean Marks wants to preserve that $15M cap space for 2017 Free Agency or potential trade this season.

    I like DMo but I think his back issues will scare a lot of teams away

  • takeme2cruz

    Sound like he’s joining a firm instead of practicing his agency individually. Good for Lin, his agent now has more influences power when dealing with GMs and the potential to get more clients.

  • takeme2cruz

    I don’t think it’s set. It’s just DMo not attractive enough for him to make a move……yet.

  • JW
  • takeme2cruz

    He’s running on air. Lol

  • psalm234

    Excellent breakdown of 2016 Nets vs 2012 Rockets vs 2015 Hornets.

    50 wins is a tall order for a first year team but I can see it being the high ceiling in the 30-55 Wins range if the Nets are healthy, emphasizes defense and plays as a team.

  • webattorney

    The biggest difference is Lin no longer will be leading the bench force, so I suspect the bench will be a problem.

  • Click Click

    Going to his left…

  • freemind

    but he can’t go left …that’s a deceptive camera angle…LOL

  • psalm234
  • Click Click

    He should just use a VPN to get around the blackout restrictions of League Pass. There are also other methods of watching the Nets other than League Pass.

  • psalm234

    I think Paul had some health or work-related issues that occupied him for 3 months?

    as far as LP, the blackout period and glitches were bad. They should have bought BallStream and keep it that way.

  • spiderman

    I’m sure Lin truly wishes them the best.
    But the Hornets, like the Knicks, Rockets, and Lakers will falter, scratching their thick heads, unwilling to admit they were wrong

  • KHuang

    You are a ROOKIE when it comes to following Ramon Sessions.

    You’ve really never followed Ramon Sessions before, it seems.

    Like the typical NBA 3rd string backup, Sessions has clunkers interspersed with good games.

    This has been going on for like 10 years.

    Know your place, ROOKIE.

  • lleepar

    Interesting … Thanks for the info. I found the following article interesting, especially the part about choosing and recruiting the athletes they want to represent.
    http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/08/michael-yormark-interview-august-september-2015

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Man, I don’t think people understand how lucky Lin was with MKG getting injured…..Session will be playing about 15mpg, the amount of minutes Lin would had been playing last year of MKG was not hurt.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    what’s behind the meaning of the “head of the snake”?…never understood that..was that one of Scott created terms?

  • takeme2cruz

    I like the words yo-yo’ed.

  • kauaiblue

    I get it… no worries… im glad he got a masarati and not that volvo…

  • kauaiblue

    Finally someone who sees this potential marketing wise, image wise, winning wise… all those other trams r morons!

  • kauaiblue

    Agreed. Clifford was a horrible coach for jlin… tried to suppress him but uet turned to him when he needed him…

  • KHuang

    Disagree on most of these.

    Bogdanovic > Harden and Batum. I expect Bogdanovic to put up HUGE scoring numbers this season, maybe 20+ ppg. And Bogdanovic will not play zero defense and freeze out teammates like Harden and Batum did.

    RHJ < Parsons
    RHJ is a frailer and far less skilled player than Parsons. I also openly suspect that RHJ is a defensive SIEVE who also bungles up the offense.

    Booker <<>> Clifford. Clifford’s totally fatal flaw was that he was coaching to butter up to Walker and Batum, not actually win games. That alone makes Clifford worse than McHale, especially since McHale at least played Lin nearly 30 mpg off the bench. The only reason Lin played at all was because MKG got injured. When MKG came back, Clifford handed Lin’s minutes to Lee and held Lin under 20 mpg which was the ORIGINAL PLAN to phase Lin off the team. Atkinson won’t do the Clifford by benching a productive Lin to make Lin’s teammates feel better about their piss poor play.

  • KHuang

    Excellent post, agree completely.

  • KHuang

    I consider the Nets bench equal to the Hornets “Bench Force One” and the Lakers “anti Kobists”.

    Bench Force One had BEASTS like Kaminsky, Lamb, and especially Tyler Hansbrough who played exactly like a cross between Charles Barkley and Moses Malone.

    The anti Kobists had Wes Johnson playing like Scottie Pippen on steroids, Carlos Boozer and Jordan Hill eventually playing solid pick and pop ball, and Nick Young scoring 17 ppg (24.1 in Feb).

    The Nets have some beasts of their own on their bench.

  • KHuang

    longer and BETTER

  • KHuang

    Jeremy Lamb, the 2015-2016 Hornets leader in +/-

    I love his game and wish the Hornets would dump him onto the Nets. Lamb would then start at the 2 with Bojan at the 3.

    Lin Lamb Bojan would be a bigger and tougher and more athletic modern version of Run TMC (Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullin).

  • Rick Johnson

    “You’ve changed bro”

  • Chris B.

    It’s yet to be determined, but of all the players excluding Jeremy, Bog has the biggest potential and upside. He could explode this season. He was unstoppable in the Olympic. I wouldn’t dismiss Olympic competition like some people do. That is as high level as it gets besides the NBA finals.

    Here is his 44 points explosion last season. It wasn’t an abnormality. He had many games scoring in the 30’s. Like Jeremy, it’s his inconsistency that has been troublesome. I think he is in a much more stable situation now.

  • Chris B.

    Clifford offensive and defense were both top 10 in league last year. That is very hard to do. He must have done something right. I don’t like some of his roster moves, but he is a good coach. Atkinson might be better. We will only know by the end of this season. He is unproven at this point without any coaching history. Clifford is a head at this point.

  • Click Click

    CBS Sports still bashing the Nets, but at least they gave recognition to Lin as the team’s “most important defender”…

    https://i.sli.mg/VUhxYA.png

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/breaking-down-the-most-important-defensive-player-for-each-nba-team/

  • heart

    They have Trevor Ariza instead of Beverly for Houston Rockets? So why is PB starting along side Harden?

  • Rick James

    who the heck follows ramon sessions?? 3rd string nba guards making $6M/yr?? Damn! You realize your description of sessions “clunkers interspersed with good games” pretty much describes Lins career so far, and pretty much what happened last season on the hornets. Obviously Lin will be more consistent with a starting role, but can you really not say the same for Sessions without any proof?

  • grover chang

    Rockets vs Knicks tonight. Should be interesting.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes, small taste of NBA excitement is back because Lin can finally show what he’s made of as a leader this season.

  • spiderman

    2 dysfunctional teams. Only bright spot is MDA

  • Michael

    So you say they are wise…

  • grover chang

    Knicks will be bad. Rockets will make the playoffs and Harden will look good doing it.

  • kauaiblue

    No! Just common sense! Lol. I cant believe charlotte didnt take advantage of jlins popularity and skills…

  • Acbc

    I gave Clifford a very long pass on his coaching until Christmas last year. I wanted to believe so badly that what he promised Lin was just about to happen. It turned to be all lies. Even though Lin was already leading the second unit to salvaging so many games for the team, Cliffrod started to dismantle the second unit and even take the ball out of his hands. It became obvious at that point that Clifford was just like Mchale and used his method to force Lin to accept his role as backup to Kemba.

    “A good coach adapts to his players” as quoted by John Wooden and Atkinson. Without knowing anything else, I can say that the Nets coach is already better than Clifford who obviously has his own ideas and will make players fit his own ideas. That lack of visions alone makes him a bad coach.

  • blueCypher

    I think the Rockets will make the playoffs and not squeeze into it last minute like last year.

  • KL

    Yes Byron Scott called Price “the head of the snake” on defence. It was a joke but was used to justify benching Jeremy Lin.

  • webattorney

    Relative to BS and McHale, Clifford was actually good. I would give him a B- coach for Lin.

  • KL

    I am glad that Lin got to play with Jordan Hill and Carlos Boozer 2 years ago. After a while the pick and pop was lethal.

    I am also glad that Lin got to play with Al Jefferson last year. Lin had many great games feeding Al in the post and Al used his whole repertoire of offensive moves.

    I think Lin will figure things out with Lopez soon.

  • Click Click

    ESPN is actually airing it at 8PM EST. A preseason game… on ESPN… during primetime.

    Clippers vs. Warriors after that.

  • grover chang

    Knicks get all the love. Nets are on national TV maybe twice?

  • kauaiblue

    He was horrible… played him erratically, making sure he did not do too well, lied about his role… mchale and bs were horrible too… those 2 (add keith smart and u got 3) are poor standards to compare clfford to… of course mda was the best… even woodson was relatively mediocre…

  • Click Click

    Once on ESPN… against the Knicks.

    4 times on NBA TV… once in preseason… against the Knicks.

    Pretty ridiculous.

  • Arsenium12 .

    This tweet is from the summer (July, 2016). Apparently, Springsteen has several properties in Rumson, NJ, and a farm elsewhere …
    _________
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/754378263330328576

  • Click Click

    Kenny Atkinson instills confidence in rebuilding Nets

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nets/kenny-atkinson-instills-confidence-in-rebuilding-nets-1.12405505

    “Coach Kenny is tough,” said Greivis Vasquez, who’s had about half a dozen NBA coaches for comparison. “It’s grit and grind . . . He holds us accountable, he lets us know, and that’s important, because he doesn’t have a preference for anybody. He treats everybody equally . . . ”

    “I think the strategy and the direction that we’re going, it’s really good,” Hollis-Jefferson said. “I’m really proud of our guys. They’re working hard, putting a lot of effort in.”

    Lopez added that practice takes on a unique type of intensity when Atkinson is running the floor, because he’s so hands on — often pausing practice to show his players where they’re making mistakes.

    “He’s showing us exactly what we need to do, running to the corners or whatever it may be — getting back in transition, showing us the transition defense, pick and rolls. He gives us a lot of examples,” Lopez said. “No question, it’s different and unique in the league. You never see that.”

    Speaking of how Atkinson holds all his players accountable, he acknowledged that “that doesn’t guarantee we’re going to win 50 games.”

    “But I’ll tell you what, I’ll guarantee fans, you guys, everybody, is going to be thankful for what we’re building over here.”

  • Alaingrvis

    knicks iso iso iso

  • norah mackenzie

    i know but the fact is batum and mkg sd be able to step up no matter what but they didnt. they are definitely crazy headless chickens running around in circles then.

  • norah mackenzie

    team bonding at its best – yes

  • Click Click

    ESPN and Jeff Van Gundy are trying to so hard to talk up Harden. They don’t say anything about Harden’s completely horrendous defense, except to make a quick excuse for Harden on his D. They just keep going on and on and on about how great he is.

    Knicks starters got rolled by Rockets starters. No Bev, no Noah.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Apparently, Patrick Beverley is going to miss the Rockets’ trip to China due to soreness in his left knee. (via Calvin Watkins)

  • CJSHYY

    How’s Harden as PG in MDA system?

  • Chris B.

    What is funny is that try so hard post the number of categories he was first in and brag about.

    1st in minutes
    1st in turnovers
    1st in FT attempts
    1st 3 pt attempts

    Those are categories I wouldn’t be bragging about.

    I would be more impressed if it was FG %, 3Pt %, 3pt made, Asst, Pts and Reb

  • Click Click

    Lots of behind the back passes, alley-oops, some decent ball movement, a mix of shots and drives. Loses the ball from time to time like Harden usually does.

    We’ll see how he does during the regular season when games actually matter.

  • Acbc

    He was shooting really well but then he stopped and deliberately stood on his left leg and made the shot that way. Often on step backs the outside leg or the spike step will do both a stop as well the push off jump. IMO, that’s what he was mimicking that shot.

    Shooting off the other leg is also important for the right corner 3.

  • Click Click

    Yeah, I chuckled a bit at that graphic.

  • kauaiblue

    I don’t really see a difference. he was playing like this for the last 4 years!

  • Click Click

    ESPN finally mentioned the fact that Harden led the league in turnovers… in which Van Gundy promptly made another excuse for Harden, saying it was because his usage was so high and he had to create on every play. *facepalm*

  • Click Click

    Knicks got owned by Harden and the Rockets. 26-point deficit at the half. Getting real ugly…

    http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400899170

  • blueCypher

    It is preseason but I will always be pro-D’antoni haha.

  • takeme2cruz

    Is the Rockets’ offense that good or the Knicks are so bad?

  • 1mtoldman

    knicks …bad…? arent they a “superteam”?

    van gundy says the shanghai sharks put up more competition.

  • Click Click

    It’s a 3-point shootout now between Porzingis and Ryan Anderson. Zinger made FOUR 3s in a row!

  • Steppen03

    It’s Only preseason But still show you who’s ready and who’s not. It will show you which “team” is more prepared for regular season. Honestly, I do not see the Knicks making playoffs. Rockets may get #4-#6 but not higher than that. Harden is No-Nash even under MDA.

  • takeme2cruz

    “Super-choke” yes.

  • Click Click

    Lin speed signing those 7s for jerseys…

    https://twitter.com/kumaw0rld/status/783423043892678656

  • FreetheMind

    Knicks are looking pretty pathetic. Anthony is playing with zero energy. This could be another long season for the Knicks new coach or not.

  • takeme2cruz

    Rockets scored 100 points with still 15 min to play.

  • norah mackenzie

    I am so sorry that the knicks lost – NOT

  • norah mackenzie

    superteam of the d league – the knicks are – thanks d’antoni

  • norah mackenzie

    perhaps if harden shaved his beard the team can go further

  • norah mackenzie

    was he wearing those short shorts ? since he is a new PG etc

  • norah mackenzie

    wait ? does Anthony actually play with energy? I must have missed that “energy”

  • kauaiblue

    lol… he was “trying” to play defense. it wont last.

  • CJSHYY

    Good finally. LOL!

  • norah mackenzie

    was he trying to play defense? my mistake – I thought he was playing his usual game

  • Chris B.

    MDA is secretly scheming to break Harden knee cap, so he can trade for Jeremy by middle of season. It’s a preseason game and Harden has already played over 28 min with the game already won like 15 minutes ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if Harden average over 40 min for season. He was already leading the league in minutes last year.

  • norah mackenzie

    no way will Jeremy go back to Houston – morey is still there –

  • norah mackenzie

    only 100 plus points – I am disappointed – lol

  • CJSHYY
  • kauaiblue

    He was but he didnt do the matador thing. He will.

  • spiderman

    Van Gundy should win the Harden brown-nose award

  • heart

    FYI: We’ll see if Reggie Jackson will play this Thursday, Oct 6, 7:30pm. Lin said he’s excited to play….
    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/783380877736677377

  • Chris B.

    So many players injured or recovering from injuries, and the season hasn’t even started. Kemba, Wall, PB, Noah, Steven Adams, Simmons.

  • heart

    Speculation: I’m beginning to think that they’re perhaps saving their body for the long season… Too much of a coincidence to have that many sitting out…

    Edit: Simmons’ case is not, but others may be yes…

  • blueCypher

    Just watching the warriors game. They are gonna beat teams not even TRYING hard. I think they are going to “purposely” lose a few games as to not beat the 73 wins haha

  • cshot

    i agree. this is one scary team. they have soooo many 3 pt shooters that can drive to the rim as well. steph, kd, klay, draymond looooollllls

  • blueCypher

    They have 3 players that needs to be doubled haha. It is almost unfair 🙂

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Last call for free Nets v. Pistons game tickets for this Thursday at the Barclay Center. Please send me an email with the subject line Preseason Ticket Request and the number of tickets you need. mdekhre@gmail.com

  • cshot

    if only i lived in ny lol

  • cshot

    I need Brook-Lin action………..2 more days……

  • psalm234

    Possible starting 5

    @linfinity88: Nets Starting 5? Brooklyn Grit #BKNets
    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/783493520539590656

  • DX

    Very kind. Unfortunately, not live in US.

  • blueCypher

    I feel bad for CP3. He is a really good point guard. He is not getting out the west this year.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Jeremy out to dinner tonight … . At a Malaysian restaurant in Park Slope, Brooklyn.
    __________
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/783495199808819200

  • grover chang

    MDA was spoiled by Nash. Players should not play so many minutes at that pace. MDA never took his foot off the pedal. Including with Lin. Kindve glad Lin is not with MDA.

  • Lin Dunn

    He will be a free agent next yr. Speculate Sam Antonio may recruit him.

  • Steppen03

    Thing about SC30 last season is I didn’t get to see his good passing, assists. That will change this season. GS is still my favorite… in the west. However, I’d LOVE to see the Nets steal one from GS.

  • CJSHYY

    NYK too. But I think he will stay w Clippers.

  • cshot

    wow the warriors are going to be unstoppable lol. its splash fam now lol

  • NONONO

    Finally we can watch Lin has the role he was supposed to have for the past 3 seasons. Recalled Lin had average 10 mins playtime as a backup in many games, i would enjoy every game this season as long as Lin is healthy to play starting pg.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    try to get some money at the day of the game at the stadium. there will sure to be people looking to buy some

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    wow. getting blown out already by the awful rockets. that just shows how horrible they are

  • blueCypher

    Damn, Clippers getting hammered. I know it’s preseason but this can’t be good for confidence.

  • Yura

    Nice read. Thanks for your insight.

  • rookie75094

    I used to like jeff…he is dead to me now.

  • Yura

    🙂

  • Yura

    God I would LOVE a pic with him!!!

  • Yura

    I know right. I hate New York but I would love to live there for 3 years now.

  • blueCypher

    He will be 32 . That next contract might be his last “big deal” .

  • Yura

    Lol, yes, I agree with your speculation :>

  • Yura

    You hate his beard so much, lol

  • Yura

    Whoever wrote that sounds like an elementary school kid. Obviously uneducated and clueless!!!

  • Yura

    Lol, I’m just trying to image everyone literally eating soup there.

  • psalm234

    and the Linsanity Love-fest in NY continues 🙂

    @newyorkerlive
    .@JLin7 brings the Linsanity to #TNYfest, where he’ll be in conversation with @vcunningham. Get your tickets here: http://nyer.cm/jpi2kIA
    https://twitter.com/newyorkerlive/status/783511299460300800

  • BobbyH

    Don’t forget Harden no need to play defense. He is the POINTS Guard. So he can just stride on the defense.

  • Click Click
  • Click Click

    D’Antoni, before a 130-103 thrashing of the Knicks on Tuesday in a preseason game, admitted Atkinson was influential in having him start playing Lin in January of that 2011-12 season.

    “I love it,’’ D’Antoni said of Lin signing with Brooklyn. “I think it’s a good opportunity. He was with Kenny anyway with the Linsanity thing. I know he’s excited. I texted him a couple times, said he’s excited to go. The assistant coaches [back then] were saying, ‘Hey this kid’s not bad, you got to try, got to try him.’ I said, ‘OK, OK, I’ll get to him.’ So they kept pushing.’’

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/04/dantoni-happy-to-talk-nyc-coaches-but-dont-ask-him-about-carmelo/

  • norah mackenzie

    yes – god knows what is hiding there ? – maybe if he shaves it off he will become a top class defensive player as well. I am thinking abt his career after all- heh

  • norah mackenzie

    come on – even pple who are no “experts” like me know that the knicks are not a play off team. I think I will become a nba expert now.

  • Click Click
  • Maknusia

    Good the hear that….this solidifies how much Kenny trust Lin in leading the NETS.

    Can wait for tomorrow’s game.

  • Maknusia

    Hunting time! 🙂

  • Maknusia

    Good read from the Scrimmage

    http://nothinbutnets.com/2016/10/03/brooklyn-nets-starting-lineups/

    For example, the Nets could run with a starting lineup of Lin at point guard, Bojan Bogdanovic at shooting guard, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson at small forward, Trevor Booker at power forward, and Lopez at center. That’s a lineup that the Nets may rely heavily on. Lin, Lopez, and Booker are all veterans. Bogdanovic could be poised for a breakout season, and the Nets are counting on Hollis-Jefferson’s continued development as well.

    ..

    Lin will likely start the majority of games running the point, but if Atkinson wants to move Lin over to the two for a stretch of a game, he’ll have other options at point guard. Greivis Vasquez, if healthy, could run the point with Lin at the two, or perhaps one of the rookies, Caris LeVert or Isaiah Whitehead, will get a chance beside Lin.

  • Yura

    Awesome. Can’t wait for Nets v. Rockets!

  • Maknusia

    Yeah…..its kinda scary…..as long they dont get carried away and focus on the bigger picture of Finals, and not get caught in the regular season……playoffs is a different animal with 7 games, this is where mind games and coach strategy comes to play as well

  • Click Click

    I remember a while back how certain posters tried to bash me (forgot if it was here or on NetsDaily) when I said Lin could play besides Vasquez and switch between point and off-guard roles. I’ve always said how important having a healthy Greivis is to the Nets because he’s the only other reliable ball handle and playmaker besides Lin. They are both very versatile players who can play both PG and SG. It will be a pain for teams to have to deal with both Lin and Vasquez at the same time.

  • Maknusia

    yep, and they could use both if they decide to go small…

  • Uh-Oh

    Once you live here for three years, you never want to leave. And if you ever leave, you will found yourself miss it very much once you did.

  • joy

    That’s right! And it’s good for Lin to have another veteran who can share the load. I hope they two can compensate each other and become another duo when it’s needed.

  • joy

    ESPN’s projections have them finishing last in the Eastern Conference — tied with the 76ers, who would at least get a lottery pick for their trouble (the Nets don’t have control of their first-round draft pick until 2019). They also have them finishing with one fewer win than they had in last year’s woeful 21-61 season. What’s more, ESPN isn’t alone in thinking this season will be a rough haul. So, what’s a team to do?
    “I don’t think we’re concerned with that,” Atkinson said. “We’re going to have fun, we’re going to compete very hard.”

    I like Atkinson’s answer. He sounds exactly like Jeremy!! Just like the logo they put: Brooklyn Grit!

  • Maknusia

    Brooklyn Nets: Four Takeaways From Open Practice

    1. Heavy Ball Movement

    Differing from previous years, this Brooklyn Nets’ offense did not have many isolation-type plays. What we saw instead were two teams that relied on passing and moving the ball. Led by Brook Lopez and Jeremy Lin, there were instances of the pick-and-roll offense being used.

    Mainly, however, the ball was passed to the open man, regardless of who the face was. The Nets’ revamped methodology of approaching the game is evident.

    The emphasis on team chemistry is indisputable, and Kenny Atkinson has already begun leaving his mark as head coach

    2. Threes… and Attacking the Glass

    In this new era dominated by jump-shooting, the two sides restrained themselves from taking long threes and rather went for the easy two near the rim by taking a layup or close bucket. Ironically, one of the first threes we saw in the beginning was by Brook Lopez. Are the Nets training him to shoot the three? It took him five years to shoot his first three pointer in the NBA – remember this?

    We haven’t seen many at his length and size do the following, and he’d be part of the new generation of big men that successfully master jump-shooting both inside and outside the arc.

    3. Turnovers and Improved Defense
    More from Nothin’ But Nets

    Despite the fast pace of both sides during the scrimmage, bad passes quickly became common. This is the first time the team played together in public, and it could’ve been a bit nerve-wrecking playing in front of their fans. Nevertheless, each player is still getting to know each other, so we need to be patient with the process.

    There were several moments when turnovers dominated the game on both ends. But the aforementioned can be seen in two ways. The downside is that the offense needs some improvement, but on the other hand, the upside is that the defense has improved significantly. Rondae Hollis Jefferson, especially, has the opportunity to emerge as the best defensive player on the Nets this season.

    4. New Beginnings

    We received our first sneak peak of the Brooklyn Nets, though there is still room to improve. Ball movement is a great bonus to have, but they need to watch out for miscommunication. Reducing turnovers is another issue they need to tackle. By placing an emphasis on getting easy shots, their ability to attack the rim has significantly improved. If everyone gets involved, they will only get better from here on out. They need to continue to support and look out for each other in order to perfect their team chemistry.

    Given that this was a scrimmage, we do not yet know the full potential of the offense or defense at this point. All we can say is that Kenny Atkinson and the rest of the front office has definitely put both the time and effort into developing this Nets squad, and the upcoming season will be an entertaining sight to see. It’s refreshing to see that the Nets have moved on from the past and started anew.

    http://nothinbutnets.com/2016/10/04/brooklyn-nets-takeaways-open-practice/5/

  • norah mackenzie

    yummy

  • norah mackenzie

    I thought that noah and rose wd be the “savior” for the rockets but it seems that it is kp instead – where is Carmelo? MIA again

  • joy
  • Maknusia

    Nets to Unveil Brooklyn Remix Uniform

    The team will wear a uniform that pays homage to both the New Jersey Nets’ 1984-1990 uniform and the Brooklyn Nets’ current uniform between October 28 and March 30.

    “The Brooklyn Remix uniforms represent a fusion of the past and the present,” Brooklyn Sports and Entertainment CEO Brett Yormark said in a statement.

    The uniform – a collaboration with Adidas — will combine elements and color schemes reminiscent of both the Brooklyn and New Jersey uniforms.

    The black jerseys will feature the word “Nets” across the chest and “Brooklyn” down the left side, a design reminiscent of the old-fashioned NJ uniform.
    http://sfctoday.com/sports/2574-nets-to-unveil-brooklyn-remix-uniform.html

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    OK. All tickets have been taken! See you guys tomorrow night. Will report live from the game!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Just finished watching the Rocket/Knicks game and I must state that I was very impressed with Houston’s offense.

    Basically, they have good 3point shooters everywhere except at center..and this is exactly what will make it hard to guard them..

    Anderson at the stretch-4 shooting 3s will be huge for them..Wished Brooklyn could had signed him instead of Booker.

    Not surprised they crushed the Knicks by 30points…..They looked like the Golden State Wariors out there and as much as I don’t Like James Harden as a person, he’s a superb offensive weapons…Under D’Antoni, he’ll probably make a strong run at the MVP title.

    Harden ran the PnR really well and could be even more devastating than Lin was with the Knicks since he’s a much more skillful player who has better handle and is a better outside shooter.

    I think Houston makes the playoff and Harden wins MVP….Matterfact, I may place a bet on Harden winning MVP and even the western conference.

  • Click Click

    LOL people always overreact to preseason games. Even the first 2 months of the season can be misleading and premature in determining how well or bad a team plays for the whole season. It’s the same in any sport, not just basketball.

    Yes, Houston looks good so far and Harden has played great, but that doesn’t mean this will continue for the entire season.

    Knicks were horrible in their first preseason game, but they haven’t gelled yet. Just like how the Nets are a brand new team, the Knicks are similar in their personnel changes and new head coach. And I’m saying this as a person who don’t like the Knicks.

    FYI Ryan Anderson’s contract is ridiculous (not as ridiculous as some others). $80M/4Y is way too much money to spend for him. Yes, he’s a very good stretch 4, but his defense is sub-par. He also has a history of injuries. I’m glad Nets didn’t go chasing after him.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Hi guys. Long time since I spent some quality time on this site 😉 nice to see activity picking up! Is Click Click becoming our official content guru? Good stuff pal! Also, nice post by Chris B.
    I was playing with excel in my free time yesterday, and wanted to post the result.

    How many points will Jeremy average this season? – A subjective mathematical construct 😛

    Lin averaged 11.7 ppg last season, in 26.3 min per game (mpg).

    2pts – 5.8 pts @ 45% fg; 3pts – 3.0 pts @ 34% fg; and Ft – 3.1 pts @ 82%

    Three key factors are going to influence increase in Lin’s scoring this year:

    1) Increase in playing time: Easiest to see. As a starter Lin may average between 34 – 38 mins a game. That’s a straight increase of 29 – 44 %

    2) Increased number of shots: Lin is gonna be the playmaker this year. THE playmaker. Gone are the days when Lin had to stand at the perimeter for majority of plays. He can and will get his choice of shots this year, and knowing Jeremy that means the most efficient outcome. Lin averaged 0.354 field goals per min last year. Compared to Harden (0.517), Westbrook (0.526) or Steph Curry (0.587!) that’s pretty low. Lin will become a main scoring option this year, but he loves to pass and get his team mates involved. A range of 0.4 to 0.5 (or even higher) all seems possible, depending on how the team plays this year. That’s a jump of of 13 – 41%

    3) Better shooting: Last season was arguably Jeremy’s worst shooting season, efficiency wise. The reason is obvious, a lot of us pointed it out last season – a change in shooting form; Jeremy has admitted as much. While Jeremy was still a Ferrari, engine tune-ups often need readjustments before we see real results. He seems to be pretty confident in his stroke this year, which gives me confidence in an increased efficiency. His career averages are 47% for 2pts and 35% for 3 pts, which I think are the minimum he can achieve this year. After comparing percentages for good interior scoring guards (2pt %) and upcoming 3 pt scorers (3pt %), his shooting for this year could as easily go upto 50% and 38% respectively. That translates to an increase of 4 – 10%

    So combining all 3 factors I calculate an increase between 52 – 123%. That’s anywhere between 17.7 pts to 26.1 pts per game!

    There is an inherent assumption in these calculations that may be wrong – Lin will shoot the same percentage of two, three pointers and free throws. But Jeremy will probably increase his 2 pointers and free throws, but that makes the comparisons and analysis too complex, so I ditched it 🙂

    This mathematical construct is just for fun, and not nearly as accurate because it lacks nuances. But it gave me a good idea of how much Lin has been missing out, especially when compared with like players in the NBA. Based on what I see (especially in number of shots Lin has been allowed to take) I always thought Lin was going to score well over 20 pts per game, and now I am completely convinced.

    Sorry for the long post.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    We’ll disagree…I’d rather take the Rockets offense with D’antoni than the current Brooklyn roster full of unknowns and role players.

    While I understand this is preseason, you can’t ignore how efficient they look in their past 2 games and we already know James Harden is an elite offensive weapon…and we already know D’antoni will have this team running and scoring a lot with James running PnR and being surrounded by shooters will be crazy…

    I think James will probably average 9+ assist easy because he’s a guy that need to be doubled and having guys that can shoot around him will make the Rockets tough to defend.

    I still think Rockets looks very good and I don’t see their offense to all of a sudden crumble when the season starts.

    While I’m not a fan of Harden, I like D’Antoni and I think he’ll do very well there.

  • norah mackenzie

    i guess it is early days yet – but if they blew out the knicks that is a good sign for the rockets –

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    My low expectation for Lin is 16ppg and 6 assist…..43%FG and 35%3PTFG…..Anything better than hat will be great.

    On top of his new shooting form, one other reason why he didn’t shoot well last year was because of the inconsistency in his role and minutes…Lin is a rhythm players and shoots better when he’s offered more time on the floor….He’s a better shooter as a starter than a bench player.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Yes, absolutely good point. Didn’t want to use his starter numbers, but those FG percentages would shoot further up if we do so!

  • Acbc

    While you continue to say that you don’t like Harden’s game, you keep bring up the rockets and how great they are. I’m just not interested in the Rockets doing well. In fact, I only want to hear them fall flat on their face.

    I can’t speak for everyone on this board, but please don’t bother us with Morey’s shark tank team. Harden and Morey are the worst kind of representation of human character, no matter how great their record maybe, that team will always fail in the post season.

    Leave us alone so that we can continue to apprecaote the Nets high character team that actually is built to win and not to show off.

  • grover chang

    I agree with you. Some Lin fans maybe a little blinded by resentment for Lin’s time in Houston. Understandable.

    But they don’t miss Howard with Nene and capela. Added shooters. Gordon is much much better then Beverly. Harden is athletic and good period. And now they have a good coach and system in MDA.

    Houston will be good.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree here…While I’m a Lin fan, I can’t blind myself to the obvious…Harden is still an elite offensive player and playing him at PG and running PnR could be huge for them….It also forces Harden make use of his teammates a bit more..He had 11 assist last night.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    You have the right to speak for yourself……I have my opinion and if you don’t like it,than just ignore me instead of acting like a big baby simply because you hate the Rockets.

    I like D’Antoni and was simply making an observation about how good his team looks. You can’t take it because I stated the Rockets looks good, than too bad…You don’t own this forum.

  • Pistolpete

    Anybody know of a website that will stream the game tomorrow night?

  • Phoenix Rising

    I dislike (hate) the rockets too! D’Antoni should have never joined them!

  • Acbc

    The highlights showed how hard they ran and it a little out of control. It was almost like a college game and the intensity and adrenalin was ramped up too high. The spacing was not good and the lanes were too crowded with people that looked lost. I agree that the TOs were not great but high speed and passing is bound to create errors, especially with little play time together to create chemistry.

    I suspect the coaching staff knows all this and is just letting guys learn now in the preseason. Good coaches know when to pull in the reins and when to ramp up a team. John wooden used to say ” if you’re not making mistakes, you’re not doing anything”. I’ve always contended that Lins high TOs were always in an effort to lead people to learn new patterns by forcing them to chase a pass. They become better simply by knowing that if they make the effort to run to open spots, they’ll be rewarded. Good coaches recognize this and let the process build character and chemistry. Bad coaches like Mchale would complain instead about the mistake as a character flaw and a representation of the limits of the player.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Houston will never be GOOD. They will only score a lot of points and win games. Thanks (no thanks) to new coach.

  • Acbc

    Yeah it’s too bad, I hate having hate for them but they still have claws in my psyche as I suspect a lot of other Lin fans have.

    It’s kinda like a friend who keeps bring up how great an ex looks when all you want to do is forget about them. It hurts but what’s worst is you allow it to hurt.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Hi coach.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    You can ignore my post..No one is forcing you to even answer to it…..Whatever issue you have with the Rockets means nothing to me, so you can whine about my post all you want.

    I’m also not a hateful Lin fan who hates Harden or the Rockets…I don’t even think Lin, himself hates the Rockets or Harden, and Lin, himself congratulated Harden after he signed his Adidas deal.

    Maybe you should learn to let bygone be bygone instead of holding a grudge and letting this grudge blind your rational thinking.

    I like D’Antoni and I believe his system will fit Harden very well.

  • takeme2cruz

    Come back tomorrow before game time.

  • Pistolpete

    Ok thanks!

  • Click Click
  • HVJoy

    Great “ex” analogy!

    Be sensitive, folks!

    If really wanted to know how my ex is doing, I might ask his friends. But I would hate to come “home” every day and hear repeatedly how great my ex is doing.

  • 1mtoldman

    if yer in the nyc area and you missed the cut with the individual who was offering free tickets to tomorrow nites nets preseason opener there are over 1000 tickets still available on stub-hub as of 10 am et today “from $10 dollars”.

  • 1mtoldman

    lin is the “poster boy” for the insider “fantasy sleepers of 2016-2017” article over on the right column here.

  • rookie75094

    Lol..Mike D’Antony expose camelia as a liar when he said it was Kenny Atkinson who push him to play Jlin before Linsanity.

  • kauaiblue

    When did mda say that? P.s. i agree with the defense.

  • norah mackenzie

    he got that much for 4 years – that is ridiculous.

  • norah mackenzie

    the rockets are a bad memory just like the lakers as far as i am concerned. yet you keep on wanting to discuss the rockets here just to remind everyone of this bad memory and the tough time lin had in houston for 2 seasons when he was there. what kind of “fan” are you tbh? i know that the nets are not the best team around but i am just hoping that the team does well esp for lin’s sake. perhaps you sd go over to the clutchfans site and say nice things abt houston over there. this is the current jeremy lin site and talking abt the rockets and the lakers is a bad memory imho.

  • norah mackenzie

    d antoni is 65 years old and this is probably his last gig as a HC so i dont blame him

  • norah mackenzie

    i wonder if i can start a prayer circle for the game coming up – and i am not even religious.

  • rookie75094

    He said it was the assistant coaches specifically Kenny Atkinson, who push him to play Jlin..during Linsanity,camela said he was the one asking MDA to play Jlin…what a liar!!
    It’s in the article down below.

  • xeroid

    D’Antoni is a good coach, and his teams are always enjoyable to watch, but as others posted, it’s early in pre-season, wait until the grind of the season takes its toll, and Harden’s strip joint adventures worked its way and affect him and his teammates. Harden is undeniably a good player, but does he make his teammates better or worse. If last season is guide, I were not count on Rocket will out perform expectation.

  • takeme2cruz

    Absolutely

  • Win

    Off topic. I used to gamble on sports but I stopped a long time ago. However, I have just bet 3,000 on Nets win over 20.5 game as JLin is the full time PG.

    Wish me luck guys. 🙂

  • BobbyH

    Just wondering where I can bet?

  • Win

    I did it on 2 websites which both were suggested by my gambling friends. One of them is http://www.betus.com.pa/ and the other one is https://www.betonline.ag/. According to my friends, they have been betting and cashed out constantly. But the cash out time will take a week to 2 weeks, depends on the cash out amount.

  • kauaiblue

    Thanks!

  • norah mackenzie

    may the force of lin be upon you .

  • takeme2cruz

    Good luck

  • Win

    Thanks buddy!

  • Win

    Thanks! 🙂

  • norah mackenzie

    i think i need a prayer circle for myself at the rate

  • 22cents

    You did your analysis by yourself or just guts feeling?

    Sports performance is perhaps one of the most difficult prediction in analytics analysis. The parameters are so huge that it is not easy to have a over 50% or below 50% prediction in average.

    So, 50% to 50% is about to bet by feeling. Good Luck!

    May the Lin’s force be with you! Ha Ha

  • Win

    Haha. I believe it JLin. The key is now in his hand, no one can stop Linsanity 2.0 (Improved version) this season if he is healthy.

  • Win

    And thanks. 🙂

  • psalm234

    don’t forget to take deep breaths 🙂

    any prayers for the Nets team health is definitely important after seeing the injuries around the league.

    In a way, the prayer has been answered with the new Nets Performance team headed by the Navy Seal guy. They didn’t overwork the players during TC like BScott once did. Very smart move indeed

  • KHuang

    Is there ANY player in NBA history who ISN’T a rhythm player?

    We’re talking guys that shoot, not brick handed big man who only rebound and defend.

  • KHuang

    No, you can’t get too excited about the Rockets offense when they’re playing that lazy clueless uninterested broken down Knicks team that likely will finish near the bottom of the league in defense.

    The Rockets look significantly WEAKER to me than they did last season.

  • psalm234
  • HVJoy

    nyp.st/2drhGD7

    It is good to know that Coach D’Antoni still keeps in touch with JLin 4 years later. I love his candidness regarding Linsanity.

  • KHuang

    You be a Rockets fan, the rest of us here will be Nets fans.

    Nets fans like professionalism, grit, hard work, team play, and RAW TALENT (especially on the front line and at PG).

  • KHuang

    But your Rockets lost ALL your big man defense and looks even lazier defensively this season than last season.

    Your boy Patrick Beverley is banged up, your so called “elite” player Harden is already playing 40 minutes, and your Rockets have not faced a REAL opponent yet.

  • KHuang

    I hate that FAKE term “elite” to describe James Harden’s iso selfish game.

    Just you wait until the Rockets play a team unlike the Knicks that actually plays real defense and also will go hard at Harden all game
    long.

    You’ll RE-learn why your boy Harden is so disliked around the NBA, and not just by Lin fans.

  • KHuang

    Oh, D’Antoni’s system will fit Harden –

    but will it fit Harden’s teammates once the traps start coming hard and opponents start going HARD at your Rockets’ tissue soft defense?

  • lleepar

    Is Fox going for racial ridicule of Asians here? I couldn’t imagine them going into an African American or Hispanic community and doing a piece like this.
    https://twitter.com/PabloTorre/status/783695365740568576

  • KHuang

    Depends on what you mean by “good”.

    The Rockets still have problems with conditioning, effort,
    and defense.

    Once the REAL opposition comes in, the Rockets are going to be bashed up pretty good. Even wimpy old NY was whomping them until NY’s lazy uninterested unconditioned players ran out of gas late.

  • psalm234

    Nicely done Excel analysis 🙂

    It’s true that factors such as how defense will trap Lin more won’t be easily factored in the analysis but it definitely makes sense that by simply increasing PT, Lin will increase his scoring and assist numbers.

    My personal gut feeling is Lin will get similar stats to Jeff Teague (~ 16pts/6ast in the past 3 seasons) in the Hawks under similar Kenny’s system. Lin can get more FTs so I would guess 17pts/6asts or 18pts/7asts since on paper the Nets has less talent around Brook-Lin.

    For comparison, CP3 averaged 19pts/10asts last season but he dominated the ball too much

  • Win

    I am happy for Mike D’Antoni at the very least.

    🙂

  • kauaiblue

    Thanks!

  • Maknusia

    hahaha…all the best…you mean winning more than 20.5 games…I think its doable…no worries then

  • Win

    Thanks Mod! Honestly I was worry if I have broke the rules by telling other that I have placed a bet. But I am just too excited for this season. I used to have NBA season pass every season but I stopped ever since Lin went to the Lakers. But I am gonna get the league pass for the Nets this season. Go JLin!!!

    🙂

  • Steppen03

    I would still put my money down for 30+ wins, just saying. I’ll gamble from time to time but not online.

  • takeme2cruz

    Are you kidding me? This is funny. This guy goes to all community including Muslim, Red necks, Black, Gays etc….

    Don’t be ridiculous Mr Torre, not everything is racist. Have some humor.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    who did you placed the bet with?…What sports book?

    3k is a lot, but I think it’s good bet…Nets will win more than 21…Just think about this..they won 21 games last year and Lopez did not played in the final 10 games…RHJ missed half of the season and Jarrett got hurt and missed half of the season through injury.

    So given that, with RHJ back and an healthy Lin who is better than Jack, they will definitely win more than 21 games.

    The problem is if Lin or Lopez gets hurt, you’re doomed.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Talking about the team’s defense …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/783716885011558400

  • Arsenium12 .
  • grover chang

    I expect rockets to succeed as previous MDA teams. GOOD regular season and BAD post season once defense picks up.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Another sponsor for the Nets …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/783722948070780929

  • CJSHYY

    Another tire com…. good.

  • grover chang

    What is he talking about? Are they running a zone defense?

  • grover chang

    Where did you go. I want to make some easy money

  • grover chang

    Praying already

  • Phoenix Rising

    Hey Psalm, good points as always! 😉

  • occupatio

    whatever atkinson emphasizes now, it’s surely a version or variation of what he has said before about his ‘defensive principles’. and more generally, these are things that are common throughout the league after thibodeau.

  • Phoenix Rising

    Exactly! All guards are rhythm players. Only the top bigs are able to push through bad form with hustle / effort.

  • takeme2cruz

    Smart move by Kenda, this time unlike the last , Lin is the leader and starter.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    “your Rockets”?….I’m not a Rockets fan…I’m just a fan of D’antoni, the guy who helped Lin during Linsanity.

  • Click Click

    Oh look, another ESPN Insider article that is using Lin to sell some subscriptions…

    Jeremy Lin among biggest fantasy sleepers of 2016-17 – Fantasy Basketball

    http://insider2text.xyz/articles/e5260b9771517070

    http://insider.espn.com/fantasy/basketball/insider/story/_/id/17714249/jeremy-lin-biggest-fantasy-sleepers-2016-17-fantasy-basketball?ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_FantasySleepers

    https://i.sli.mg/3OxAqu.png

  • Yura

    Not everyone has the ability to be a leader. Glad Atkinson sees that in Lin.

  • Click Click

    Kenda, Kemba, hmm…

  • Whitman Lam

    Detroit already has Matthew Dellavedova and Steve Blake …. but they are white, so I guess they don’t count as Reggie’s replacement.

  • Click Click

    Lin had the most stuff to sign yesterday, but the whole team had to sign stuff as well…

    http://www.nba.com/nets/gallery/2016/10/05/brooklyn-nets-signing-session

  • lleepar

    Good Grief! Talk about a bucket of ice water!

    here’s what i expect
    — enormous roster turnover with some movement possible even before the season begins. Most players ever to wear a Nets uniform in a single season is 22. I expect that record will be broken.
    — Lopez will remain a Net, barring a complete meltdown (which I think is possible)
    — Atkinson will become increasingly frustrated with the losses.
    — There will be trade offers for Rondae and Chris McCullough
    — Isaiah Whitehead will get a lot of minutes at PG early, Caris LeVert will get a lot of minutes at PG late.
    Posted by Net Income on Oct 5, 2016 (in comments)
    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/3/13158230/espn-sean-marks-moving-nets-out-of-future-basement

  • HVJoy

    I wonder what happened to Maxxis Tire sponsorship?
    It followed JLin to all his NBA teams since 2012.

  • Click Click

    I said it 2 or 3 days ago, he’s been pessimistic and cynical because of how many times he’s been let down by previous Nets teams he thought were serious title contenders.

    I don’t pay attention to Net Income’s comments or his extreme liberal politics. I only care about the articles he writes.

  • Click Click

    I personally don’t like the sound of this. Kenny is taking things way too seriously for a game that doesn’t count. I hope people don’t get injured or exhausted from overplaying…

    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/783748037017538560

  • g ho

    I never bet but this is one bet I will take. Where can I place it ?

  • CJSHYY

    That’s the way he’s…. no need to worry.

  • lleepar

    It’s certainly his right. It’s his site (or at least he’s it’s mod). So he can set whatever tone he wants for NetsDaily … just as the mods set the tone here. I do understand the PTSD syndrome aspect of it. Lin fans have had some of that themselves in times past. But the absolute and total bleakness of his expectations just stood out. Maybe it’s not a place for me to hang out much until after a few games into the season. By then, either we may be joining him in the dungeon of doom, or maybe things will have lightened up a bit.

  • takeme2cruz

    Sound like a no nonsense coach to me.

  • Rick James

    thats a very low bar. If you’re a true lin fan, bet $5k that nets win over 30 games. I’d like to see khuang put his money where his mouth is and put $50k that nets win over 45 games. He has professed this will happen as a FACT without any basis. Alot of people here talk the talk, lets see you walk the walk.

    Even though im a Lin fan, im much more realistic about this year, and don’t think the nets will do well. I do think that lin will have a record year for his career.

  • takeme2cruz

    Too much of disappointment has become his new norm. Don’t be mad at him.

  • Whitman Lam

    He’s one of those Nets fans who have gotten used to seeing big name players and coaches on his team. Lin, Lopez, and a bunch of no-names under a former assistant coach, doesn’t exactly scream “Championship Contender”. He will be surprised how good this new team is.

  • lleepar

    Oh, I’m not mad at him in the least. I think he’s one of the most valued and articulate members of the community. I was just shocked by the sheer depth of his dismal outlook. I may join him in the months ahead in that outlook. But not now.

  • lleepar

    There are guys fighting for a place on the team. Decisions about who stays and who goes have to be made soon. So I don’t might the coach throwing some of the guys into as close to a “regular game” situation as possible to see how they cope. As long as he’s not playing Lopez & Lin for 44 minutes a game in an attempt to win these games, I’m okay.

  • Dongmen

    MD went to Bucks and Steve not signed yet—

  • Steppen03

    I LOVE IT!!!
    A serious coach that will hold every player accountable. And win games. That’s the bottom line isn’t it ?? They need to start winning right out of the gate. And they can’t do that IF they’re not serious. This team need “heart” and “grit” for every games. JLin7/Brook can’t do it alone. However, I do not think the starters will play more than 25min. I’m fine with 25min.

  • rookie75094

    cant signup …says us address is not eligible to open an account

  • Click Click

    That’s because online gambling is only legal in 3 states:

    http://www.gamingtheodds.com/usa

  • Click Click

    A Lin fan just won tickets to the preseason game tomorrow lol…

    https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/783763713153200129

  • takeme2cruz

    $2 mil player broke some serious record from the bench:

    -2nd most come back win (23 points) in Hornets franchise history. (24 was the most against Milwaukee).
    -1st Playoff win in 14 years (should have advance to 2nd round).
    -Give the Spurs first lost with 23 pt ahead during the Tim Duncan era.
    -First ever win by M Jordan’s owned team against LBJ team.

    What’s next as he’s now a leading starter?

  • LinMadd

    If I buy LP will I get access to the preseason games?

  • Click Click
  • LinMadd

    just bought my LP, I’m ready for tomorrow

  • Whitman Lam

    Oh, ok. Sorry, I don’t keep up with the news on those teams.

  • takeme2cruz
  • BobbyH

    Set the tone for the team. Building a winning culture is not easy. Need to start from the very beginning.

    But I can see Brook-Lin play less. Maybe 20 to 24 mins.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Happy for him. He’s really a big fan of Lin.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I disagree with you….I personally like the idea of taking these games seriously and hope that they could take any positive momentum in the preseason unto the regular season.

    The Nets need to show some positive stuff because no one believe they will win more than 20 games..the exception are Lin fan…Not even long time Nets fan believe they will be any good.

    So by making a positive start to the preseason, it could build some positive feeling and get the players to believe they won’t be as bad as everyone thinks.

    So I like it that Kenny wanmts to see some positive result now…Nets is not the Golden State Warriors…they can not afford to take it easy..They need to show something.

  • Click Click

    You always disagree with me and vice versa. I’m not saying the Nets should not “take these games seriously,” or that they should “take it easy.” I’m saying Kenny is taking preseason games way too seriously and it could lead to exhaustion or injuries if he pushes his players too hard, too early.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Again, they aren’t a great team that can afford to rest their stars like Cavs, GSW…Brooklyn needs to play their best 8 players as much as possible so they can build chemistry since they lack talents.

    Lin/Lopez needs as much time possible to jell before season start..You don’t want to do that during the season…Try to get them to gel during preseason so they when season starts, they’re ready to go all out.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Agree with you..I love it…I hate the idea of taking it easy and being afraid of injuries.

    Looking forward to watch Lin/Lopez.

  • Click Click

    It doesn’t matter how good or bad the roster is. No team takes preseason games this seriously, as if they’re regular season games, especially not the first preseason game. You ramp up players’ playtime during these 3 weeks. It’s dumb to go all-out in the first preseason game like Kenny is indicating he will.

  • HVJoy

    Fortunately, this season I could watch JLin games on cable TV. This is the YES Network TV schedule for Nets:

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/schedule/nets_schedule.jsp

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Well, glad you’re not Atkinson…He’s clearly trying to make a statement early so that his team can build up confidence…specially after all the media prediction predicting the Nets as top 5 worst team in the NBA.

    Also, Kenny understand that he has to allow competition for spots since no one but Brook Lopez is considered a legit NBA starter…So everyone needs to play hard to prove they belong.

    Booker, RHJ, Bogs and even Lin have something to prove and needs to show something even during preseason.

    That is specially true about Booker and Bogs…Booker needs to prove he will not kill floor-spacing.

    Bogs needs to prove he can be a reliable scorer to support Lin/Lopez….and preseason games are the only game to show that before season starts.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    are you in the try state area?

  • Steppen03

    That’s what Coach K said but he didn’t mentioned about playing time…. Starters can go all out in 20-25min and SEALED the win. I don’t think they need to play 35+ for the win… if opposing staters are sitting resting as well…

  • psalm234

    Thanks. I do think Lin/Bog/RJH/TB/Brook will be the starting lineup although I wonder about Bog’s D

    Vasquez’s health is also important so he can give Lin some rest. Lin/Vasquez backcourt will also give different look and versatility.

  • Click Click

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nets/nets-begin-preseason-and-jeremy-lin-has-no-idea-what-to-expect-1.12410286

    The massive roster renovations still are in the construction stage, and despite having more than a week of training camp in the books, even new point guard Jeremy Lin admits he has “no idea what to expect.”

    For now, Lin is saving his butterflies for the regular-season home opener on Oct. 28. “Honestly, I’m not that focused on that part of it,” Lin said of the excitement of his Brooklyn debut. “I’m more focused on, ‘How do I keep building this team?’ When opening night comes around, I’ll really feel that.

    “It’s one thing to practice, but a lot of stuff that might work in practice is going to be different in a real game. This is going to be our first experience of really what it’s going to look like, and I have no idea what to expect.”

    The most noteworthy aspect of the preseason opener will revolve around the aggressive, help defensive style that Atkinson has installed. “I think it’s a great defense,” Lin said. “The best way I could describe it is that I hate playing against this type of defense. That’s my ultimate sign of respect for this defense. Now, it’s a great defense conceptually, but we have to get it down to the point where we’re doing it and executing it the way we need to.”

    “Realistically, we all understand where everyone’s expecting us to finish, and what everyone is thinking about us,” Lin said. “We know that, if we’re going to do anything, we’re going to do it together. There haven’t been any egos. We’re going to move the ball, and if we don’t, I’m sure we’ll be held accountable.”

  • 1mtoldman

    “no one believe they will win more than 20 games.”

    well not entirely accurate now as of yesterday vegas over/under odds on nets up to 21.5

  • HVJoy

    No. Not in NY metropolitian area, but further north from the City

  • 1mtoldman

    as ive pointed out on this site previously (and got attacked for doing so) there is a wide divergence of opinion on the relative merits of the nets team between general nets fans and lin fans even as there is a generally common bond in view of the positive merits of lin.

    they just dont beleive (tho yes lately there is more optimism, obviously not from crusty old “net income”) lins acknowledged talents are enuf to pull up what is considered another lackluster to very poor roster beyond brook

    (and the one thing “net income” did say that lopez would remain with the team is something a large number of nets posters do not believe; i would say the if not majority opinion at least most often suggested lopez scenario is him being traded at the trade deadline for draftpicks).

  • 1mtoldman

    yep. thats why they made him the “poster boy”

  • 1mtoldman

    hmm i just read an article (i thought) that said blake didn’t have any offers yet; in fact he was the focus of the “when is it time to retire” piece. yes? no?

  • 1mtoldman

    my question answered here should have scrolled down one more.

  • psalm234

    I can see Brook will stay a Net barring a complete meltdown because they will reward his loyalty in the past few years.

    But enormous roster turnover even before the season begins? I don’t know where that comes from. I thought the Nets have rosters that other teams don’t envy? Why would they trade with the Nets.

    Besides, it’s not fair to undermine Coach Atkinson’s TC by trading players unless it’s a blockbuster deal.

    I agree it’s a downcast outlook to prevent dashed hope of any high expectations.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    he’s gonna break the record of breaking the most records

  • Click Click

    Solid Lin article. Not sure if this has been posted here before…

    Brooklyn Nets: Can Jeremy Lin Play At An All-Star Level This Year?

    http://elitesportsny.com/2016/09/28/brooklyn-nets-can-jeremy-lin-play-at-an-all-star-level-this-year/

  • Michael

    Yeah makes no sense. They are trying to instill a new culture there. How can they accomplish that if they haul the roster.

  • zxcvb

    On a similar note, Lin is on ESPN’s NBA frontpage as a top “fantasy sleeper.”

  • Goodday

    yup, a game is a game. when u step on the court, u play with the right mindset. i admire Atkins for being serious. of course hope he also manages playing time well.

  • Yura

    Yes, agreed. He’s setting the tone – no laziness, no slacking off no matter what game they play. I like his mentality and this will rub off on the team.

  • Acbc

    If you don’t understand why many Lin fans harbour or as you say ” blinded” by resentment, then you have very little understanding of the relationship between the human emotion of love or hate.

    Lin fans love Lin and will naturally resent anyone or any organization that hurts him. You and others may still like Houston, but many don’t, myself included. If you’ve ever been jilted by someone you loved, you should know well how it annoys you when others keep bringing up how great you’re ex is doing. It’s insensitive to say the lease. If you have friends that insists on bringing up the subject of you’re ex, you’re either going to start avoiding them or worst, start to actually dislike them.

  • lleepar

    I was a little puzzled by the list, myself. If I had to decode the parts of the message, I’d say that he thinks Vasquez is going to be traded for picks soon to some team who needs a PC. That would be unfortunate IMHO because Vasquez is really the only other one with experience in running an offense when Jeremy sits. It’s nice to push the two young PG’s he mentioned into action for development, but neither are anywhere ready to take Vasquez’s place in the rotation this early.

  • Win

    Haha. I have already maxed out my friends’s account limit. As long the winning can cover some Nets hoodie and a few tickets, I am happy.

  • Win

    I did it on 2 websites which both were suggested by my gambling friends. One of them is http://www.betus.com.pa/ and the other one is https://www.betonline.ag/.

  • Win

    These are off shore gambling website but both focus on client in USA. Maybe you need an address in USA?

  • Win

    Both of these site are off shore. You can bet any where as long as you live in USA and have a valid credit card.

  • Win

    Mike D’Antoni just did it. Maybe only to the Knicks/Melo? Lol.

  • Win

    Hello, Is this the same LinMad from last season?

  • Arsenium12 .

    Another one for Adidas …
    __________
    https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/783845274225479680

  • Win

    Sorry missed read you email. No way, both of my friends live in USA and able to open an account. One of my friend even play Texa Hold’em every night on betonline.ag.

  • Click Click

    Yeah, I posted it below.

  • takeme2cruz

    Yes he can and when he does, he will awaken millions of oversea Chinese fans.

  • Win

    I have a feeling that the Nets’s preseason games are gonna like the last year Hornets’s preseason game which they have won 7 out of 8 preseason game I believe?

  • ProLin

    nah, I don’t see it that way. First game for a new team, new HC, new GM is to set the pace for the rest of the season, so the player knows what to bring. I like this attitude a lot. There won’t be any changes comes regular season.

  • ProLin

    I hope so but we really have to see how the other role player perform. I am optimistic though.

  • Click Click

    Then they lost 3 straight games to start out the season and played like hot garbage from mid December to mid January.

    The same principle applies in all sports: “It’s not how you start, but how you finish.”

  • Win

    I kinda blamed that on Cliff as he had using Lin a lot less and more on SG once the season has started.

  • joy

    Well, this is Atkinson’s first year as a head coach. I think, even in the preseason, he should be very serious to treat every game. After all more than half of his players are less experience. The preseason games are the best opportunities for them to get ready and hopefully, to give them best. They’re equally as important as the games in the regular season.

  • ProLin

    I did a little search and it seemed that Cheng Shin Rubber (owner of Maxxis brand) is still profitable but is changing their marketing focus away from the US in fear of TPP. They might not spend a lot in marketing in the US this year, and thus Kenda, 2nd biggest Taiwanese tire maker, probably out spend them and got the official tire sponsor title. It’s interesting that they used to sponsor Rockets and the Cavs as well. They sponsor a lot of sports teams.

  • Maknusia

    I think its all about setting the tone…since this is a new team with untested chemistry….hence you want to give all out on a first game….do it right the first time….and move on from there…..

    unlike established teams like GSW, etc where there aint many new pieces and strategy change or setting a tone is needed at high level

  • Maknusia

    maybe…maybe not…the reason is everything is new in NETS…so obviously Kenny wants to run/switch as much as rotation that he wants to see on a live game instead from just a practice show…where the pressure is different in a real game hence, players tend to sway away from game plan, easily

  • Win

    Agreed. I meant Atkinson don’t have to play the starters almost 30 mins like Mike D’Antoni did to the Knicks (Big Lol), but even if the 2nd unit sharing half of the minutes, they all should still try to win the game even if it is a preseason game to set the tone.

  • KHuang

    Legendary Celtics coach and president said “Basketball is not a faucet. It can’t be turned on and off”.

    He also said “If you don’t practice and play hard, those habits get ingrained into you and you start doing false hustle”.

    Besides, I think that the excellent depth of this Nets teams will provide Atkinson more than ample personnel to not have to play any starter more than 34 minutes.

  • KHuang

    I don’t think it’ll lead to exhaustion or injuries.

    If anything, not playing his rotation players enough would cause them to lose their conditioning AND become injury prone.

  • KHuang

    I think preseason games SHOULD be taken seriously.

    The Nets are so new to each other, even starting point guard Lin is saying in the press “I don’t know what to expect”.

  • KHuang

    The Nets are going to play a very simple defense – at least in concept.

    It is essentially the same as the old Bad Boys Pistons “Jordan Rules” but MUCH STIFFER because the hated old illegal defense rule prevented the Pistons from playing roaming zone defense like the Nets do today.

    Basically, wherever the ball goes there are at least two players on the ball and the team is aware of all the driving and passing lanes. Ideally all shots are contested by at least two defenders. The ball is surrounded on all sides by aware defenders.

    Most teams in the NBA TRY to play a defense like this, but they rapidly find out that can’t because they either have incapable players or incapable coaching. The Nets have neither of those problems.

  • KHuang

    That’s nice wishful thinking by the moderator of Netsdaily, but it’s also UNREALISTICALLY PESSIMISTIC thinking.

    Now if there are trade offers for RHJ and CMC, I’m all for it. Maybe they can be packaged to Charlotte for Jeremy Lamb and Spencer Hawes.

    We’ll see how much Whitehead actually plays at PG, and I’m honestly not sure if the kamikaze crashing Levert with 3 surgeries in 3 years of college ball is even NBA capable let alone the teams future PG.

  • Click Click

    Again, I never said they shouldn’t take preseason games seriously. I said they shouldn’t take it THIS seriously.

  • Click Click

    Good point. Maybe D’Antoni couldn’t resist embarrassing the Knicks’ “superteam” on live national TV.

  • Vincent

    won’t that leave a man wide open? against teams like golden state or any good 3 point shooting team this could be trouble

  • joy
  • KHuang

    Net Income is just having pre-preseason jitters.

  • KHuang

    I don’t remember a NBA team ever being this participatory with fans, especially kiddie fans.

    This is all about Lin’s LEADERSHIP – though even Lin knows that kids OWN HIM.

  • KHuang

    This is TRUE community team basketball, exactly what NBA teams should aspire to.

    I shudder at the thought of imagining how the Knicks or other teams would handle this kind of event.

  • SeaKing33

    http://hoopshabit.com/2016/08/29/2016-nba-offseason-grades-30-teams/4/

    If I hear/read “back up pg” one more time….

  • takeme2cruz

    It’s easy to change your look but very hard to change your reputation. Thanks to his last 3 coaches.

  • rookie75094
  • Phoenix Rising

    “The Nets have spent 70 percent of their time in camp working on defense”- Excellent

  • Win

    Wow. The line on the other site is better. My is risk 100.00 to win 105.00 for over 20.5 game.

    Anyway. Good luck buddy!

  • blueCypher

    Risk 200 to win 160 for over 20.5 wins ?

  • Win

    Yea. I think the line is risk 125.00 to win 100. It mean Nets over 20.5 is favor

  • blueCypher

    Am I reading that right ?

  • Win

    Yes.

  • Chris B.

    Yeah. Mine is $115 to win $100 for over 20.5 wins. Also, I am getting $50,000 for every $100 bet on Nets to win Eastern Conference. Yours is $50 to win $10,000.

  • blueCypher

    Brooklyn Nets winning over 20.5 wins during regular season would be the bet that highest chance. I would bet more on that one

  • takeme2cruz

    Very good money odds on division champ

  • blueCypher

    Nets winning nba championship basically 0
    winning eastern conference – I do not see them beating Cleveland even if they make it that far
    winning atlantic – i’ll have to “think ” about this one haha

  • Win

    I think the safest bet is Nets over 20.5 game. Almost like a sure win.

    🙂

  • blueCypher

    Yes to this, barring Lin injury

  • HVJoy

    Interesting story! Thank you for the information.

  • Win

    Here is the line from a local bookie that my friend just introduced to me today. The line is risk 100.00 to win 105.00

    🙂

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/655cd263cf1de96819d629f30237185b5b664552b6affca5cb89df89f8461101.jpg

  • rookie75094

    Originally I tried to bet 500 but the site won’t allow it..so I break that bet to 2 bets…after that they won’t let me bet on the same bet…so I went for the other long shots…the site is bovada.

  • Win

    Yeah. Because most site for NBA Future bet is limited to 300.00, except the sites that I have sent you earlier today. But no credit, you either already have money in the account or you have to deposit by credit card.

  • Win

    Charlotte Hornets under 41 games is a pretty good bet too.

  • blueCypher

    them winning the atlantic means beating out celtics and raptors . hmmm..

  • Win

    Yea. That would be tough. But the odd is good. Consider it as lottery.

    🙂

  • KHuang

    If the Nets can crack their own defense, they’ll crack everybody else’s defense too.

  • rookie75094

    Thanks for the info…I was not able to create an account with those sites…sigh.

  • Chris B.

    I think it’s not likely for them to beat Cavs, but I don’t think it’s out of realm of possibility. Remember Raptors gave Cavs a fight at the end of last season. Also, Cavs are weaker this season. No more Delly and Mo and Mosgov. There is also turmoil with JR contract. Cavs are not united like last season. Last season Lebron was on a mission to prove everyone that he could lead Cavs to championship. I don’t think Cavs is as motivated this year. They are also very thin at the center position. I wouldn’t bet on Nets to win Atlantic. The reason is that you are not getting good value for this bet. The return is 40/1 to win Atlantic. I think that if can win Atlantic, then they can certainly win the East, so why not go for the homerun and bet on Nets to win the Eastern Conference. Instead of a 40/1 return, you will get 500/1. So for $100, you get $50,000 instead of $4,000. That is a big difference in return. No way Nets will win Dubs though.

  • KHuang

    Of course.

    The trick is to know which players to abandon and which teams are going to hit shots even with people in their faces.

    This is the NBA where even the best defenses are overpowered by even below average NBA scorers. The Nets will get scored on more than they get stops, that’s the NBA game. But at least the Nets will put up FIERCE resistance defensively and that’ll be enough to win many games.

  • Win

    Sorry to hear that. I am not sure why so I have asked my friend and they told me that for BetUS, he had an account with them for more than 6 years. At the point you only need a US address and a credit card. For betonline, my other friend created an account for Texas Holdem at first then he has been using it for sport betting as well.

  • blueCypher

    Even though I am not sold on the Celtics being this elite team . I don’t think they will win 50+ games. Not sold on Horford

  • rookie75094

    I think may be he set up his account before the us outlaw online sport gambling

  • Win

    The odd of the local bookie for the Nets to win Atlantic Division is risk 100 to win 20,000.00, the odd is very good. But as I said, it is almost like a lottery…

  • blueCypher

    Points I consider for the cavs this season
    – they are going to rest lebron james like hardcore , he can then beast in the playoffs
    – less likely for him to get injured
    – they all got that championship halo
    – kyrie has more confidence
    – love will get more touches since i think lebron will go “easy” mode during the season

  • Win

    I think so too, but it all started because of all the online Texas Holdem sites.

  • blueCypher

    I only see Warriors vs Cavs finals in my magic ball 🙂

  • rookie75094
  • blueCypher

    If the max limit is 300 , doesn’t that mean you can put 300 on eastern conference, nba champion , atlantic divison each ?

  • Chris B.

    I am not sold on Cavs. I thinks it’s Warriors and someone else. Not likely Nets, but anything can happen. If I will bet for Nets, I would only bet just a little on them winning East. I would also bet a lot on them winning over 20.5 just so that I can make that money back.

  • blueCypher

    Indeed for that over 20.5 🙂 But h*** I want them to win the east haha

  • blueCypher

    Aren’t those “different ” bets ?

  • rookie75094

    I tried and kept getting rejected…so I keep lowering the bet until they allow it

  • Win

    Haha, Good luck buddy. But the line in your site is better. My is under 41, yours is under 42.5.

    🙂

  • Win

    300 each bet.

  • Win

    I say Warriors this year. Or the Nets. 🙂

  • blueCypher

    That warriors are DISGUSTINGLY good. Not fair 🙂

  • Win

    But, but but, they don’t have JR this year. Lol. Just kidding.

  • blueCypher

    And I heard they were going to “rest” Kyrie during the season too. This only bodes well for his playoff performance.

  • blueCypher

    Ok cool. Although I would have started with that over 20.5 bet with the max haha . Isn’t the max 500 or something.

  • rookie75094

    Apparently not because I started with 500 for that bet and got rejected 🙁

  • Win

    It is really depends on the online betting site, some have higher maximum.

  • blueCypher

    What’s the difference between this and bodog ?

  • rookie75094

    I have 155 bucks of bonus money left…you have any other almost sure bets?

  • rookie75094

    I don’t know bodog.

  • Win

    Nothing much. Just a different site I guess. I used to play Texas Holdem on bodog.

  • Win

    Or maybe a sister company?

  • Win

    Ehhh. I am not really that good to be honest. I had stop betting on Sports for a very long time. I bet this time really all because of JLin finally a starting PG and have the key in his hand.

  • rookie75094

    Lol…cool. thanks for the bees suggestion anyway.

  • Win

    No problem man!. Maybe you can ask KHuang. I do believe he knows a lot about basketball and have watched basketball for a very long time. The same go for me but I hardly ever win so I stop betting.

  • rookie75094

    Lol…(for a very “lin”g time)…you sir are a true fan and I salute you.

  • Win

    Haha. Not all because of JLin I guess. It makes it more exciting to watch the Nets season and after I win, I will be the one who gets the money after all. Lol.

    But someone just posted this on the other site.

    Bet your house on 40 wins or more, but don’t come crying to me when you are homeless. There’s optimism and then there is delusion. You’ve clearly crossed the line, not even the most optimistic, glass-half-full Nets fan would tell you that this roster is a 40-win roster. There are many, many, many moving pieces that exist outside of Jeremy Lin that you must take into consideration, and not only for Lin’s current situation, but the situations in which he has helped other teams in the past. So while you are busy blaming all those “ball hogs”, and excellent individually talented players, just know that there is at most one of those on the Nets, and he isn’t a guard, he isn’t even really on a par with some of the excellent players Lin has played with throughout his career. There will be no champion defensive player of the year Tyson Chandler or all-star Amare, no all-star Melo, no all-star Harden, no triple double threat Batum.

    You may have “faith” that Jeremy Lin can be the difference maker and can make all those young, inexperienced and general swathe of random career bench players become a 40 win team, but this team is a lot more Lakers than it is Knicks/Rockets/Hornets

  • blueCypher

    Jlin with the key in his hand , coach that trusts him – all signs point towards positive season 🙂

  • rookie75094

    Who ever that… is..dead to me…hehe

  • blueCypher

    To win the atlantic divison I imagine you need close to 50 wins. That is why if they are at best 40 win team , I don’t know about betting on them to win the division

  • blueCypher

    IMO Brook Lopez is significantly better offensive center than Tyson Chandler was.

  • Win

    Let me make myself clear, the only thing I have agreed on is the young players such as Rondae, Chris McCullough and even Sean Kilpatrick. I think our starter is good. But our bench is a little weak.

  • blueCypher

    I was thinking about this bench
    if vasquez gets back to his preinjury play, he would be solid at the point
    i think kilpatrick could have a “breakout”
    not sold on mccullough
    scola should be solid.

  • Click Click

    That guy is one of the worst Lin hater / trolls. Not sure why he hasn’t been banned yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another Clutchfans troll and Lin hater or that he has other alt accounts. Pay no attention to scum like him. Just a waste of time reading and responding to people that pathetic.

  • psalm234

    Jeremy said the preseason opener vs the Pistons is likely to produce some surprises.

    After practice Wednesday, Jeremy Lin talked about Thursday’s preseason opener vs. the Pistons. He admitted that game is likely to produce some surprises.

    “The big thing right now is that we’ve been practicing. It’s one thing to practice, but when you get in the game and see the film, a lot of stuff that might work in practice in a real game is going to be different. This is going to be our first experience of really what it’s going to look like, and I have no idea what to expect.”

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/783865808703385600

  • psalm234

    new Preseason Game 1 thread.
    Let’s go, JLin!

    http://www.jlinportal.com/preseason1-det-bkn-game-thread/
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/783903709176541184

    Finally, the moment Lin fans have waiting for a long time has arrived. Jeremy Lin will start a game as the starting PG and the face of the Nets franchise along with Brook Lopez and Rondae-Hollis Jefferson.

    Jeremy expressed his excitement to start playing preseason games after one and a half week of good training camp. Despite being preseason games, fans can expect to see the starting lineup that Coach Kenny Atkinson envision for the regular games. Multiple lineup will be experimented to assess which players play well together to help as the starters and the reserves. Will Coach Atkinson play the starters sparingly for 2 quarters or would he use the regular season rotation to get a win to inspire this young team? Only time will tell us.

    Let’s hope and pray the Nets can enjoy playing together in their first preseason game and be healthy throughout the season. Let’s go, JLIN!

  • Steppen03

    Click, Click,
    Know what you mean. But that’s the Hornets with Kemba offense. And this is JLin at the helm. How about try hard to win them ALL. I have no problem if they lose as long they go all out. Preseason or not. But, think 25m max for starters. I think they can win some with that amount of time because not All starters playing on opposing teams.

  • sport

    Thanks for posting this only deposited less than $100 to bet 1$00 on Nets to win Altantic Division since they had 50% Welcome bonus. I figured it’s a low risk and high rewards bet.

  • sport

    Except NBA is rigged and they will want another Warriors vs Cavs rematch. Winning Eastern Conference means Nets going to Finals which I don’t see happening in their 1st season together.

  • sport

    Certainly not with the organization and coach behind him and also being full time starting PG!