2016 Jeremy Lin Free Agency and NBA Trades

Which NBA Team will Jeremy Lin choose by July 1 Free Agency starting date?

With only 8 days before July 1, some teams have completed trades involving Point Guards:

  1. NY Knicks: Derrick Rose
  2. IND: Jeff Teague
  3. UTAH: George Hill
  4. CHI: Jose Calderon, Jerian Grant

These moves essentially took 2 out of 8 NBA teams (Utah and NY Knicks) who are in need of a starter PG according to Yahoo Vertical Guide to FA PGs:

Teams in need of a starter: Brooklyn, Houston, Memphis, New York, Philadelphia, Sacramento, Utah.

Which team will recognize JLin’s potential (1st in PPG and FG%) among 2016 NBA FA PG Starter Stats?

The Top 5 NBA teams who might pursue Jeremy Lin as their starting PG are:

1. Brooklyn Nets: Kenny Atkinson/Lin connection to create Linsanity in 2012 is the strongest factor. His comment on the importance of PG like a QB in the NFL in his system would be attractive to JLin.

Kenny Atkinson, considered to be a point guard guru, said it’s “super important” for him to have a floor leader to run his system. He likened the point guard in the NBA today to having a quarterback like Drew Brees or an Aaron Rodgers orchestrate an offense.

2. Chicago Bulls: Fred Hoiberg’s fast offense could be perfect for Jeremy Lin. Lin/Butler backcourt would form a formidable backcourt. The higher chance of reaching playoff would be attractive to Jeremy Lin

3. Philadelphia 76ers: It remains unknown how much the Colangelos and Brett Brown would like to sign Lin as a Free Agent but Brett Brown had good praise on Lin on April 2016

“They’re getting ready to go into the playoffs,” added Brown. “They’re playing high-level basketball. There is a chance we’ll see [guard] Jeremy Lin come in the game. That’s a legitimate, at-any-moment, 20, 25-point player. He can just sort of burst off a bench and be lightning in a bottle and score at that rate, and so we’re going to need to play with pace and free and I think that the way they guard, the way they pack the paint, that’s the shot you end up with, and I feel I’m ok with it, given our personnel, and where we’re at. I expect to see another game similar to what we saw in Philly.”

4. Dallas Mavericks: Would Chandler Parsons recruit his old teammates Dwight Howard and Jeremy Lin? The downside is Mavericks didn’t prioritize Jeremy Lin in the summer of 2015 after the Deandre Jordan debacle

5. Houston Rockets: Mike D’Antoni would love to recruit Lin but James Harden would certainly have the ball in his hands, not Lin. A reunion is possible but not likely

NBA Drafts Day on June 23 will provide valuable information on which teams are looking to draft PGs.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Player options: Who’s opting in and who’s opting out
    http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/01/player-options-whos-opting-in-and-whos-opting-out/

    This article has published on 1 May 2016.
    JLin has opted out even then.

  • Sinners_Gospel

    1st

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Nop. 2nd!

  • Sinners_Gospel

    Dayyum!

  • Sinners_Gospel

    Jlin to bulls sounds good!

  • Lin Dunn

    Someone post in another thread that Lin is listed as one of the players in a pro am basketball competition to be held in early July? Anyone knows more about that? If that is true then Lin must be almost 100 percent certain about his next team.

  • zxcvb

    Brooklyn not being linked to any of these PGs is a good sign. But Utah is out as a “wildcard” destination. Looks like they’re punting on Exum with George Hill as a stopgap to give Exum more time to develop.

  • zxcvb

    He’s listed as “when in town after July 1st.” So he could arrive on July 2nd after agreeing with the Nets or on July 7th after singing or not play at all. Doesn’t mean anything either way, IMO.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks, BTW what is that pro am comp, seems like many international players will be participating.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Believe JLin was also listed as player last Summer but he didn’t even play one game if my memory served me right. In his Asia tour, believed I have heard at least couple times that he needed to stay healthy for the season. So, doubt that he would take risk to play games.

  • Lin Dunn

    Makes sense, why risk injury.

  • spiderman

    Lin is the most impactful in the group above…
    Can see Linsanity re-ignited in Brooklyn. Bulls would work if Butler doesn’t turn into a diva

  • FreetheMind

    Chicago traded Rose is a positive sign. They will need a real PG and Jeremy could be a great fit. However, I would still like Nets as the #1 best option for Jeremy since he can put his own stamp onto that team from day 1.

  • David Kim

    If Lin signs with Nets, what other players you want to bring to Nets??

  • zxcvb

    Kent Bazemore at SG is the only strong opinion I have. But even with the Nets existing personnel, I’m fine.

  • psalm234

    yes, we never heard Snyder was high or praised Lin before so I don’t think they ever considered Lin seriously.

    George Hill is 30 so he’s probably asked to mentor Exum in the next 2-3 years

  • David Kim

    i think some Nets fans want to bring Bazemore too…

  • zxcvb

    Team player, not ball-dominant, catch-and-shoot 3s, straight line drives, guards SGs and SFs. similar age as Lin. And he already knows Atkinson of course.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Here is the NBA “Free Agent Tracker” for 2016 : http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2016/

    Note the tabs available : “View All”, “View Available” and “View Signed”. Since free agency hasn’t started yet, “View Available” is the same as “View All”, and “View Signed” is empty.

    You can also sort the results by “Old Team”, “New Team”, “Position” etc.

  • zxcvb

    As for Lin to the Sixers, I’m not against it and I like Brown, but Bryan Colangelo is really sending mixed signals.

    If they offer Lin it will be as a “last resort,” which is a bad sign. Notice how Brooklyn has had no rumors about going after a PG. But the Sixers? “Schroder! Kris Dunn! Teague! George Hill!” Throwing everything at the wall with no real plan.

  • KHuang

    Jeremy LAMB, that’s who I want alongside Lin.

  • KHuang

    Don’t expect anything out of the 76ers.

  • Guest

    Hopefully Lin will sign earlier than last year.

  • zxcvb

    Yep. I thought they may have had a plan with Hinkie being dumped and MDA being brought aboard, but Bryan Colangelo is deviating from his dad’s plan. Just a mess.

  • zxcvb

    Lamb p*ssed me off with his play last year. Ball hogging even when Lin always made sure to set him up. Getting lost and not hustling on defense.

  • KHuang

    But Lamb was #6 defensively among ALL guards.

    Lamb was an electric scorer. He and Lin led the East reserves in scoring most of the season.

    I didn’t think Lamb got burned all that badly when he was on the court.

    Lamb opened up the court for Lin on both ends.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    But often times those rumors come from the players’ agents trying to boost value. Perhaps Lin’s team doesn’t play that game.

  • psalm234

    oh no .. Lamb lack of BB IQ and defensive holes got him benched by Clifford. His surly attitude didn’t help either
    I think Bogdanovic or Hollis-Jefferson are certainly better

  • KHuang

    The stats don’t agree with your negative assessment.

    Lamb led the team in +/- for most of the season, and he outscored both Bogdanovic and Hollis Jefferson in far less minutes and touches.

    The way Clifford treated both Lin and Lamb, Lamb was CORRECT in having a surly attitude. Clifford was afraid of Lamb outplaying Batum and Walker.

  • psalm234

    And another downside is if it things looked bleak early, 76ers might tank again

  • james brown

    i think no more sixers for JLIN because the one holding him to join already left. No reason to join them now except max contract and assurance of a starting position (but a long shot still)…Best team competitive in 2 to 3 years, not so much enticement now!

  • james brown

    maybe so much politics still?

  • zxcvb

    Playing with Lin boosts his defensive profile. He has great potential but I just saw him losing his focus too often. He’s only 23 and got PAID 7M per year despite not achieving 1/100th of what Lin has. He played with a sense of entitlement that he couldn’t back up.

  • james brown

    Lin play FA silently….

  • james brown

    my opinion, not good..lacks the basic defensive skill with his years of playing pro.

  • KHuang

    But Lamb led all reserves in the East in scoring for most of the season.

    Why SHOULDN’T he shoot, given that he was the East’s best scorer off the bench? NBA basketball isn’t just about feeding Jeremy Lin for more shots.

    And Lamb was focused enough to get stop after stop, block after block, and rebound after rebound. Plus, he actually cut off the ball and spaced the court and LET LIN BE THE POINT GUARD (at least when Batum wasn’t hogging it).

    Lamb boosted Lin’s defensive profile, because unlike any other Charlotte Hornets guard Lamb was able to successfully defend the SG position AND turn defense into a positive according to the numbers.

  • psalm234

    In the early season, Lin/Lamb and the Bench Force 1 were great.
    Their positive +/- kept saving the starters from big holes as you said

    But towards the end, after getting the contract and coming off the bench, he didn’t pass to Lin or let Lin create most of the time. He tried to take it to the rim most of the time and didn’t end well

  • james brown

    defends on who he played with..with Lin he’s decent, but with KW, he was so bad!

  • KHuang

    Who ISN’T bad with Kemba Walker freezing guys out and playing no defense and breaking plays for his own shot???

    – Lin included

  • james brown

    LOL!

  • KHuang

    That’s because opponents KEYED IN on Lin.

    Once Eastern Conference opponents realized what Western Conference opponents have – that Lin cannot be stopped by single coverage, Lin got ganged up on defensively. I correctly predicted that before last season too.

    By then, Lamb was playing under 20 minutes a game. He wasn’t in enough rhythm to even shoot consistently, just like Lin wasn’t when Lin was benched for under 20 minutes by Clifford.

  • james brown

    agree!

  • KHuang

    Last season, Lin’s agents called EVERY SINGLE GM around the league.

    Lin was TURNED DOWN because he’s ASIAN.

  • zxcvb

    Lamb could’ve been much better if he let Lin set him up more often. Too much “me time” for Lamb on offense and pouting on D if his scoring wasn’t there. Lin isn’t Jamal Crawford. Let him set you up!

    Ultimately, Lin was the secret sauce that made the bench work, not Lamb. Let’s see what Bazemore or even Bogdanovic or Sean Kilpatrick does next to Lin. Lin won’t miss Lamb, but Lamb will miss Lin.

  • CJSHYY
  • KHuang

    Lamb is 6th among all NBA guards in defensive stats.

    The stats paint a wildly different picture from what you’re saying.

  • KHuang

    Even Lin struggled alongside Walker.

    The stats clearly demonstrated that Lin was an All Star player without Walker and a mediocre bricker alongside Walker.

  • james brown

    no proof that his agent called everybody because there was no news being let out by Jlin’s camp..thats for being a silent FA then and i guess still is.

  • zxcvb

    I listened to interviews with Bryan…he’s very sensitive. He was really defensive and hurt about accusations that “my dad gave me this job” and “I’m going to ruin Hinkie’s process.” Now he’s trying to play the nice guy and not change directions as intended by Jerry.

  • KHuang

    Disagree again.

    Because Lamb DEFENDED HARD, Lin didn’t have to exert as much energy guarding Lamb’s man as well. That saved more energy for Lin offensively.

    On offense, Lamb actually cut and set screens just like a SG is supposed to do. That opened up the court for Lin to roast opponents. And when opponents ganged up on Lin, Lamb ATTACKED. Opponents couldn’t guard both Lin and Lamb, and that’s the main reason why Bench Force One was TOTALLY UNSTOPPABLE and why Lin AND Lamb led all East backcourt reserves in scoring.

    But you are correct that Lin is the secret sauce, not Lamb. I still think that even Lin needs an attacking aggressive fundamentally sound aggressive two way player like Lamb to punish defenses for loading up on Lin and help Lin shut down opposing offenses.

    You’re also right that Lin isn’t Jamal Crawford. Lin’s MUCH BETTER than Crawford on both ends of the court, especially offensively.

  • KHuang

    No, Lin’s agent called everybody including the Knicks who told Lin’s agent that the Knicks did not want Lin.

  • james brown

    but JLIn was better in handling KW than Lamb…Lin was able to turn something not there for his advantage..too bad he was tweaking his shooting form that time that’s why his percentage dropped, but not because of purely KW..there were more games that they were complimenting each other except on games where KW comes back to hogging the ball.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    Opponents respect Lamb but FEAR Lin.

    On any team Lin goes, he’s going to be the prime target for opposing defenses. That opens up the court for everyone on Lin’s team.

    I was OK with Lin tweaking his messed up shot form. Once he nailed it, he NAILED IT.

  • KHuang

    Of course they’ll tank –

    that young clueless team with no backcourt is not going to cure their ills via the draft or any of the free agent PGs other than Lin.

  • Guest

    Was it that bad? Hopefully there will be more interest in Lin this summer.

  • james brown

    there were no proof that his agent called Everybody, maybe a few that comes out of the news , but no Proof that he called “all FO”..as you always ask everybody, pls show your proof that he called all the teams.

  • KHuang

    Put it this way – it’s not as if Lin had a better contract to sign.

  • zxcvb

    Lamb definitely had plenty of moments where he played great on both ends, but those moments trailed off as the season went on. His role was reduced and he did not react well. It’s understandable to be upset, but for a guy who got a very lucky contract and is only 23…that’s not the attitude I want for a Lin running mate. Would rather have a more mature/grateful player alongside Lin.

  • KHuang

    Heh heh.

    Show me the teams that offered Lin a better FORMAL contract than Charlotte then.

  • KHuang

    Lamb EARNED that contract –

    but Clifford artificially benched Lamb because Walker and Batum were being BEATEN TO DEATH by Lin and Lamb in practices and games.

    Clifford tried to bench Lin too, but the Hornets couldn’t win without Lin. So Clifford and Cho went out and got Courtney Lee to replace Lin AND Lamb. That messed up the Hornets anyway.

  • james brown

    let us not deviate….
    we are not talking about OFFERS here sir, were talking now that”his agents called all teams last season” PROVE it and lets see next..

    your words ”
    Last season, Lin’s agents called EVERY SINGLE GM around the league.
    Lin was TURNED DOWN because he’s ASIAN”

  • KHuang

    Given that Lin’s agents were in contact with the Lakers, Mavs, Grizzlies, Knicks, Hornets, Rockets, and a whole lot of other teams that were openly talking to Lin but not necessarily offering actual dollars, it’s safe to say that Lin’s agents did their homework.

  • james brown

    can you let me see the proof? any link?

  • james brown

    agree except that most team doesn’t respect Lamb MUCH!

  • wandertheglobe

    Agree. He plays no D and it seems like he doesn’t know what to do half of the time. No wonder OKC gave up on him…I’ll bet Charlotte is regretting big time giving him the big contract.

  • KHuang

    Here ya go, doubter:

    http://www.atthehive.com/2016/5/27/11744086/looking-back-at-jeremy-lambs-uneven-defense

    Though this article is critical of Lamb’s defense, they still cannot avoid the HARD STATS.

  • james brown

    but not to the extent that “he CAlled ALL NBA teams”. i agree that to ensure better option and as agents job, he needs to sell his client better. and i heard , Montgomery was also a preacher (not so sure on this)

  • KHuang

    I seriously doubt your claim that Lin’s agent is LAZY in checking with NBA teams.

    Lin’s agent stuck with Lin when NOBODY wanted Lin in 2010.

  • james brown

    i am not saying that his agent was Lazy, i was JUST Asking you sir, to Prove your point that his agent CALLED everybody last season and if there wan non, its ok.

    I believe he called some that he thought might give interest with Lin, but not all because to call ALL was an act of desperation if insinuated…they got a last call because JLIN then was Waiting, and waited longer than usual to decide which team to chose.

  • KHuang

    And I disagree with your claim that Lin’s agent DIDN’T call every team because you think Lin’s agent is LAZY.

    Heck, Lin’s agents were even reported to have been in contact with the Golden State Warriors that didn’t even need Lin!

    Your beliefs are not consistent with the VERY AGGRESSIVE MANNER in which Lin’s agents have pushed him around the NBA. Just ask the Warriors, Mavs, and Knicks that had to deal with Montgomery on Lin’s behalf. The Knicks got so angry with Montgomery’s tough tactics, they kicked Lin to the curb and LIED that Montgomery went to the Rockets asking for more money after the Knicks supposedly offered a $20 million contract to Lin!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    where is your sauces?

  • james brown

    don’t change and add something to what we are discussing. Prove that he called everybody! if you can’t, then, we stop because i already agreed with you that his agent was not LAZY! NOT calling ALL is not tantamount to laziness sir…:”work SMART, NOT HARD”!.

  • KHuang

    $2 million.

    Care to discuss why Lin got that little when nonAsian players of far lesser achievement got many more times that even as Lin’s agents unsuccessfully shopped Lin around the entire league?

  • KHuang

    I ALREADY DID.

    You wanna prove that Lin’s agents didn’t call all of the teams that I mentioned (and then some), you’ll be going against what was reported in the media.

  • james brown

    well…this is not yet a good proof of his talents and i might say that i found out, that i am not the only one with my assessment of lamb and i quote:
    “Personally, I would still take
    that data with a grain of salt. The eye-test doesn’t speak well of
    Lamb’s performance on defense. His trouble with screens or even getting
    blown past on a drive can get bad, yes, but Lamb is also prone of major
    mental lapses. He can get completely lost on defense to the degree that
    he just can’t find his man. Sometimes he’ll space out and forget about
    him just for so long that he match-up can get an open shot:

    You also have to acknowledge
    the fact that on/off data can take some real time before its randomness
    is completely lost. After all, the previous season Jeremy Lamb ranked as
    the 52nd best two-guard out of the 81 guards on the list.”

    this proof is a MIXTURE of my point and your points..LOL!

  • KHuang

    This is the NBA where EVERYBODY gets burned, even Lin on rare occasions.

    With great scorers like Lamb, they put enough pressure on opposing defenses to guard them such that opponents cannot save their energy for offense. So even if Lamb is regularly missing coverages, those are not necessarily resulting in SCORES and that’s why Lamb’s defensive numbers are so high.

  • james brown

    show the PROOF as you did with the link on lamb and i will look at it..

    you brought the premise, you prove it….

    i dont have to prove anything to you because i was the one asking you to prove your point so i can believe you…..i am not forcing you to believe me if you push it to that direction.

  • KHuang

    If the Sixers were smarter, they’d be offering Lin a SG contract in line with that of what a nonAsian player with Lin’s stats makes AND drafting a PG to pair with Lin in the backcourt!

  • zxcvb

    Even without MDA, I like Brown and their young bigs. But Bryan Colangelo is sending mixed signals. He’s too reactionary and will dump whoever he signs/drafts/trades for if someone, anyone complains.

  • zxcvb

    True, but even that is concerning. I didn’t hear Brooklyn’s name mentioned by any legit source despite all the PG moves made today.

  • KHuang

    Now you know why Lamb was #1 in the East in guard scoring off the bench for most of last season AND #6 defensively.

    Just because a team doesn’t respect a player, that doesn’t mean that the player can’t burn that team.

  • james brown

    yeah i hear you, but still IMO, his burns were so obvious because of his defensive lapses in my eye test. Lamb was saved by opponents not ability to make the scores and not by forcing passes.

  • KHuang

    Brooklyn has been openly reported to be totally silent in their press announcements of their intentions.

    However, they have been extremely active behind the scenes according to the press.

  • james brown

    i heard that coaches sometimes allowed a certain player of their opponents to score and limit others because they know that player can’t win a game but instead make the team look bad..

  • KHuang

    I don’t need to.

    I’m not your schoolteacher, feeding you information that debunks your claims. Do your own damn homework.

    Your hater claim that Lin’s agent is “silent” has been BADLY DEBUNKED with at least 7 teams, actually far more.

    You go ahead and pretend that Lin’s agents aren’t calling anybody and are “silent”. That’s not reality though.

  • KHuang

    If you’re using that as justification for why Clifford was correct in benching Lamb, then you’ll easily be able to figure out how Clifford benched Lin for the EXACT SAME REASONS.

  • KHuang

    In the end, the only thing that truly matters is a FORMAL CONTRACT OFFER for Lin to SIGN.

    We’ll see if Brooklyn or any other NBA team is willing to extend such an offer to Lin.

  • Lin Dunn

    Has San Antonio spurs named anyone? Since most of the team FO members @ Nets come from Spurs. I think it is just their style.

  • KHuang

    Absolutely the Spurs have named people, they are going hard after Mike Conley and Kevin Durant.

    The Spurs are always LOUD in their free agent dealings. Just look at how they wooed both David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in a very public way last offseason.

  • CJSHYY
  • Lin Dunn

    Dah, everyone is going after Durant and Conley. Actually I read those from bloggers etc. Does that proof that the Spurs are the origin.

  • wandertheglobe

    I don’t think they can put all their eggs in one basket. Of course, they will pursue others besides Lin. But, I still think Lin is the primary target.

  • KHuang

    Brandon Jennings cannot help the Nets.

    I used to be a fan of Brandon Jennings, but then he lost his youthful athleticism as injuries did him in. Now he’s Derrick Rose Lite.

    If the Nets indeed go for Jennings over Lin, then Coach Kenny Atkinson’s claim that the “Nets are looking under every stone” is a bunch of garbage.

  • KHuang

    From Spurs directly – it’s reported on hoopshype.com this year just like it was last year.

  • Lin Dunn

    Nets is not trying to secure a max player like Conley. They are trying to get by for the next 3 yrs and wait out for better draft picks. Lin should still be a better choice.

  • zxcvb

    Not a legit source. LegionNBA is just a content farm account that reposts Woj/ESPN and makes up stuff.

    Again: look for the VERIFIED check mark or at least a legit sports reporter.

    Only legit-ish rumor about Brooklyn so far is that they might look at Joakim Noah.

  • james brown

    ok

  • james brown

    your words not mine

  • psalm234

    @TheNBACentral
    Report: Mike Conley interested in signing with Spurs or Mavs. (ESPN)
    https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/745784839538802688

  • zxcvb

    Just so people know, NBA Central is not a legit source either. This story is legit but they’re just referencing ESPN. Sites like NBA Central and LegionNBA are just content farms. They help aggregate trade rumors for fans, but they have no sources of their own.

  • psalm234

    Here’s the tweet by Tim McMahon (ESPN)
    Source: Mike Conley’s respect for Rick Carlisle gives Mavs a shot at top PG in free agency.
    For Memphis to keep Mike Conley, the Grizzlies would have to commit to a five-year contract for the top point.
    https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/745768765539770368
    https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/745784839538802688

  • sport

    Nick Young a true support of Lin even after he left if Lakers get rid of him he’d be a great offensive threat without being jealous of Lin.

  • PPP

    uh…here goes my surprised team for lin, the mavs.

  • psalm234

    It could be Conley’s camp trying to drum up interest

    Conley might end up taking 5 yr deal to stay with Memphis

  • PPP

    agree.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Unless Lin agrees to their deal otherwise they have to set their 2nd or 3rd option ready.

  • Whitman Lam

    Like another Deandre fiasco, or Chris Bosh tease.

  • donsmacau

    From everything that Fizdale and the Memphis FO have been saying, they will gladly offer max 5yr contract to Conley. I’m unconvinced that Conley leaves Grizzlies.
    .
    Conley is the main man in Memphis and might be third option in San Antonio – no way. Mavs are no better than Memphis if Conley wants to chase a ring.

  • blueCypher

    NBA Free Agency is juicy aint it 🙂

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • InfiniteWisdom

    after today there are only 3 places where lin would sign imo: bklyn, houston, and charlotte. the common thread? the coach and lin’s relationship with him. bklyn and houston have coaches who lin had success playing under. bklyn is a team on the cusp of playoff contention, with lin and another signing using their cap space, they can get there and then some. houston is a playoff contender with a perennial allstar, but have a culture issue. charlotte is a place where lin feels comfortable with. yes he wont start but if he’s going to be a back up he probably doesnt want to start over on a new team and have to earn the respect of the coach and team. in charlotte he already has their respect, especially after that playoff series. imo all other teams are long shots. having played under woodson, milkhair, and my avatar, lin knows his relationship with the coach is a top priority.

    let’s hope bklyn and lin mutually agree on a future together, but if not, we must not ignore the possibility of him going back to charlotte. he was happy there. the best we can hope for in that scenario is that lin plays so well they are forced to play him major minutes or even start at the 2 and move batum to 3 and mkg to 4…

  • donsmacau

    JLIN in Charlotte is your pipe dream.

  • casual bb dan

    Haha. Probably the case of agent’s vested interest ‘breaking news’. Of course there are inept FO like Mavs offering max to so call stars player rather than spending wisely their cap space on impact players. Haha

  • Michael

    No disrespect but I think it is an agents job to explore every possibility out there, I would be worried if Lin’s agent only called the few teams that have been mentioned.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO with Conley Memphis is a middling team not being able to go over the hump. Its time for a change of floor general / quarterback. Haha

  • Pete Roces

    NO TO HORNETS! NEVER!

  • Lin Dunn

    He does not need 3 options only one right one, i.e. Nets.

  • casual bb fan

    Possible for Jennings to join Nets to rehab and remain in the NBA. Haha

  • Lin Dunn

    Conley leaving Grizzlies is not a bad thing for Lin, tht means Grizzles is a potential team for Lin.

  • Briiick

    Hornets want to play the Bobcats’ way, and I don’t like to waste time watching Bobcats’ BB. I only watch competition BB.

  • sws94

    I think he is. I don’t think we know all the possible avenues for Lin. The insider stuff that will ultimately be the deciding factor for him. It’ll be interesting to see how close or far off the general popular feeling was on where Lin will go and why.

  • donsmacau

    Absolutely looking forward to this : “It’ll be interesting to see how close or far off the general popular feeling was on where Lin will go and why.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Nets only can get Lin’s service if they get lucky as that was how Atkinson put it. IMO it would just require MDA to sit down with Lin for a chat in the presence of Morey and Les to get Lin to sign up again for the Rockets. In this scenerio there will be an impending cultural change in Houston, the team and media alike. Haha

  • sws94

    How close were you on what would happen to D’Antoni and Houston?

    It’s not a pissing contest. I’ve been way off as well. So I’m left with a feeling that, we don’t know much. We can have our favorites, but we don’t really know all that much. There are no insiders here.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol great post. A very vivid and cute observations. Haha

  • donsmacau

    Well I’ll tell ya about MDA and Houston. Fact is MDA’s admirable integrity surprised me as it surprised Adrian Wojnarowski, the entire NBA and the Colangelos who would have given MDA the HC job – there is no shame in thinking like the experts and getting it wrong due to MDA’s genuine compassion for Brown.
    .
    I don’t fly by the seat of my pants, I use evidence and rational thinking unlike many others

  • Rick Johnson

    What about Bulls? Lin and Butler would be the best back court in the East. They just need a good defensive rim protecting PnR big. Wish they had gotten Noel rather than Calderon.

  • donsmacau

    Robin Lopez is good enough on rim defense.
    .
    I agree with you that JLIN and Butler in a true partnership is a fearsome duo. That said, when/if Nets make the call to JLIN, we are moving to Brooklyn.

  • PPP

    RUMOR: #Cavs #Cavaliers impending RFA PG-SG Matthew Dellavedova to get offers from #Bucks and #Pistons worth $8-$10 million annually.

    huh!!

    https://twitter.com/kc1nyk/status/745805263983247360

  • donsmacau

    Isn’t kc1nyk the college dropout posting from his Wayne’s World studio in his father’s basement?

  • InfiniteWisdom

    he has no relationship with hoiberg. unless he strikes out with the nets i cant see him going to a new team where he has to earn respect AGAIN… houston is a darkhorse. dantoni obviously is awesome. harden obviously not. les alexander obviously supports lin. morey obviously not. the yin and the yang…. but at least houston can offer a starting position and playoff contention so they are in contention imo.

    even though silas may be on his way out, lin has a rapport with cliff, MJ, and the team. this is very attractive as he doesnt have to start from the bottom in terms of earning respect.

  • Rick Johnson

    Marc Stein ✔ @ESPNSteinLine
    Facing a Wednesday deadline, Charlotte’ guard Jeremy Lin let his $2.2 million option for next season pass and becomes a free agent July 1
    9:11 PM – 22 Jun 2016
    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/745831742980882432

  • InfiniteWisdom

    if he cant get a starting spot, why would he leave a place where he enjoyed?

  • joy

    That ‘if’ is not likely happen, at least for the coming season!

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Read my hips: no more Hornets.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    You ain’t seen nothin yet.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Mavs have my blessing.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    meh

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Expected by whom? Brandon Jennings?

  • Rick Johnson

    No state income tax with Spurs and Mavs might offset more pay Memphis can offer.

  • spiderman

    A real surprise!
    Lol

  • zxcvb

    kc1nyk is yet another content farm Twitter account, though he does seem to repost only legit rumors.

    Let’s stick to ACTUAL sources, people. From the original reporters’ tweets and articles.

  • zxcvb
  • wandertheglobe

    @kc1nyk scouts the internet for news and makes it like it’s his own. He occasionally retweets, but mostly plagiarize other people work.

  • sws94

    Don’t know if Lin is a go back home type. So far he’s been a go out yonder type. He may very well have interest in Chicago if they have interest in him.

  • psalm234

    Please help RT so #Nets fans to know how good JLin’s Starter Stats among the Top FA PGs:
    Brandon Jennings are only 6th-8th in all statistical categories

    @NetsDaily this might help #Nets fans choose Top FA PG
    15-16 Starter Stats
    @JLin7
    #1 in PPG & FG%
    #2 in 3FG% & TS%

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/745856536455557121

  • Whitman Lam

    The haters will just call it a small sample size.

  • Whitman Lam

    Memphis has no state income tax either, it’s in Tennessee.

  • psalm234

    Haters will hate so we can always ignore the 5%-10%

    13 out of 78 games = 17%. It’s not exactly small sample size
    Besides, Jennings only started 7 games with worse stats.
    Lin had better stats in almost 2X the games

    In fact, 6 out of these Top 10 FA PGs started fewer than 13 games

  • supjackjack
  • psalm234

    Thanks, @supjackjack:disqus!

    We definitely need to promote to NY media & fans that Lin is Top 1 or 2 of the Top 10 FA PGs

  • supjackjack

    agreed!!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    because you don’t understand that he meant he found inner peace despite all mistreatments

  • Barry Allen

    Haters are always going to hate no matter what.

  • joy

    Are you the assistant to Lin’s agents? smh

  • adele

    Nets!🏀 BrookLin all the way!

  • adele

    That’s Lins style too. Very silent and full of surprises!

  • joy
  • JLin fan from Australia
  • JLin fan from Australia

    Not sure how much is truth from this article. Just read and have fun:-) We will learn from JLin himself soon as FA begins on 1 July:-)

    NBA/黃蜂開價560萬美元 林書豪拒絕
    http://udn.com/news/story/7/1780963

    NBA球員林書豪跳脫黃蜂合約再度成為自由球員,據美媒「MasterHerald」報導,林書豪拒絕黃蜂開出下季560萬美元薪資,尋求更高價碼,而很多球隊對林書豪都感興趣。

    林書豪去年夏天和美國職籃(NBA)夏洛特黃蜂簽下2年430萬美元的合約,但他第2年握有球員選擇權,決定跳脫合約。

    由於今年夏天黃蜂有不少自由球員,例如貝頓(Nicolas Batum)、威廉斯(Marvin Williams)、傑佛森(Al Jefferson)和李伊(Courtney Lee)等,黃蜂為了要留下他們,因此開給林書豪560萬美元年薪,也是黃蜂的上限。

    「Master Herald」報導,芝加哥公牛和達拉斯小牛都認真考慮簽下林書豪;此外,也傳出紐約尼克、布魯克林籃網、費城76人、紐奧良鵜鶘想要引進林書豪。

    因為「飆風玫瑰」羅斯(Derrick Rose)離開公牛加入尼克,公牛為了要補強後衛缺口,所以除了林書豪,也傳出對康利(Mike Conley)有興趣;而小牛後衛威廉斯(Deron Williams)可能會跳脫合約,林書豪也成了小牛的目標。

  • S.lintendo

    Appledaily reporter posted the “source””
    https://twitter.com/manu77728/status/745857193262596096

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • casual bb fan

    “That is ridiculous” complained Melo n JR. /CAA . LOL

  • wu kong

    I thought FA start July 1 can the Hornets even offer him anything yet besides the current contract? are rules different for your current team??

  • heart

    $5.6M is an “INSULTING” offer for what Lin has brought to the team. Just Ridiculously Insulting! Lower than what Lamb is getting??? Lin is worth far more than KW intangibly and tangibly, IMO!

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Is that a recent offer made by the Hornets or was it an offer made last year when he was a free agent and took the $2.2M because he wanted a 1 year deal with an opt-out.

  • casual bb fan

    Probably last year’s offer wherein he rejected the said offer in favour of player’s option fir year2. Good observation. Haha

  • kittyhead
  • KHuang

    NOT ASIAN

  • KHuang

    No need to worry.

    The Hornets will likely sign a more expensive less productive PG to replace Lin and the $5 million they offered him this offseason.

    The Hornets want Lin GONE because he kept outplaying Walker and Batum.

  • CJSHYY

    Hornets? I hope not….

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe it’s for Lee, he wants 12 to 14M.

  • wandertheglobe

    I agree. I think Lin preferred to be a FA after one year instead of being locked in long term at $5.6M.

  • wandertheglobe

    Right. Besides Batum, they will need cap space for Lee, Marvin, Al and Troy. I doubt they can sign Lin as back up if Nets giving Lin the starting spot. Lin may take $8M for the starting spot with Nets versus $10M as back up with Hornets.

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    Hearing that Minnesota is shopping Rubio and not asking for much in return as long as the receiving team takes Pekovic’s contract as well.

  • wandertheglobe

    Houston loves Rubio. May be they will bite.

  • cdblue10

    Very possible

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    So far we’ve heard PG’s Brandon Knight, Eric Bledsoe and Ricky Rubio are reportedly available. Wonder if #Nets will inquire about any.

  • sws94

    Rubio makes sense to play with Harden. Might be a decent fit.

  • KHuang

    Would be a terrific fit off the court, terrible fit on the court.

    Rubio CAN’T SCORE, and that would cause more slowball with Harden even if D’Antoni was coach. That’s because a point guard that cannot score is a point guard that cannot run a NBA offense.

    Rubio’s defensive prowess would vanish in Houston, as his inability to score would allow opponents to rest against him on defense. That’s been MN’s problem too.

    Lin does everything better than Rubio except impress Houston fans with his race.

  • KHuang

    Hornets won’t offer a single cent to Lin.

  • KHuang

    BUST BUST BUST

  • CJSHYY

    But can Rubio plays well in MDA system?

  • sws94

    Ok, you convinced me 🙂

    So, who fits next to Harden? Any PG?

  • KHuang

    Absolutely not –

    Rubio doesn’t score well enough to siphon defenses toward himself, and that’s the key to D’Antoni’s offense working.

    Defensively, Rubio would still struggle in D’Antoni’s aggressive trapping defense. Even though Rubio has the physical tools and court intelligence to defend nearly as well as Lin does, he scores too little to wear out his opponent for defense. And then there’s conditioning – Rubio likely isn’t in good enough shape to play D’Antoni’s scrambling defense.

    He’d struggle just like slow Kendall Marshall did (another wildly overrated PG who earns more than Lin).

  • KHuang

    LIN fits.

    But so would Jerryd Bayless, Jerian Grant, Jimmer Fredette, and other dribble drive penetrators that can score without a screen and without constant touches.

    Houston thinks that it has to pair Harden with a limited guard like Beverley. Well, that has FAILED MISERABLY.

    We’ve seen firsthand how the Rockets flourish with an elite dribble driving player like Lin that doesn’t need plays run for him to break defenses down. Even if the Rockets don’t go for Lin, they should consider Lin type players like Bayless.

  • KHuang

    Correct.

    Any nonAsian free agent of Lin’s stats would have turned that down as an INSULT.

  • sws94

    Looks like Hornets want to trade Lamb and Hawes and a pick.

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242334/Hornets-Offering-No-22-Pick-Attached-To-Jeremy-Lamb-Or-Spencer-Hawes

    The Charlotte Hornets are offering the 22nd overall pick to any team that takes either Jeremy Lamb or Spencer Hawes into their cap space. Charlotte needs the additional cap space to sign their priority free agents.

    The Hornets acquired Lamb last offseason from the Oklahoma City Thunder and then signed him to an extension.

    Hawes was traded to the Hornets last offseason as part of the Lance Stephenson trade with the Los Angeles Clippers.

    ADRIAN WOJNAROWSKI/THE VERTICAL

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  • KHuang

    No one loves Lamb more than I do, but even I believe that Lamb will not be effective in Charlotte without Lin protecting him.

  • Ben Johnson

    Suns are officially in tank mode, may as well hire the best man to oversee the mission , BS

  • PPP

    Uh…could be a bad news for those who predicts lin will be a Net.

    Phoenix is offering Bledsoe/Knight + a 1st round pick and Nets is offering Young for the highest bidder. A perfect trade for both teams since Phoenix need a PF and Nets need a starting pg and hungry for picks.

    Crossing my fingures here.

  • Jamie

    Ugh that’s gonna affect Lin a lot. The Suns just had to ship their 2 best players out to ruin Lin’s chances.

  • PPP

    Nets can offer Jacks contract for Lamb and their 22nd. But if i were them, i take hawes instead of lamb, a perfecr back up for lopez.

  • Jamie

    LOL Lee for 12-14m?
    That’s a really funny joke.
    The Lin should ask for 30m

  • PPP

    Hmm… dont be surprised lin winds up back to the Rockets if this trade suceeds (very possible). Hope the Bucks will offer Lin a starting spot.

  • cdblue10

    Minnesota

  • CJSHYY

    So weird. Why so many trade on PG?

  • KHuang

    Rockets or BUST

    The Bucks would be looking at Lin as a replacement for Jerryd Bayless – and they’d want to pay Lin less than Bayless’s $3 million

  • Briiick

    I thought Nets got burned by Deron.

  • PPP

    That would be great for lin if they do trade rubio.

  • KHuang

    Because these wildly overrated PGs all STINK.

    Teague is the only exception.

  • CJSHYY

    Right now I really think that’s very likely he will go bc w MDA & they have the best roster among teams …..

  • cdblue10

    I think Rubio would go to Rockets.

  • KHuang

    They did – and they don’t have a replacement.

    They’ll either go young with a draft pick via trade or bring in a failed overhyped player like Bledsoe. But NOT LIN.

  • Linzen

    I heard Suns is shopping Tyson Chandler as well.
    Maybe Young for Chandler + 1st round?

    Can’t stand all these PG offers… 😡

  • PPP

    Hope so.

  • PPP

    Last resort, haha

  • KHuang

    NBA teams should be looking at Lin as a starting SG based on his actual court production, but TOO ASIAN.

  • Linzen

    But they still have Lavine… don’t want Jeremy backing up this scrub.

  • DX

    Don’t mind Lin starts in 76ers if the team stop tanking.

    NBA Rumors: Philadelphia 76ers Sign Jeremy Lin To One-Year Deal; Linsanity Mentors Ben Simmons, Jahlil Okafor

    The Jeremy Lin free agency train appears to have found its next stop. Reports are surfacing that the Linsanity will be donning a Philadelphia 76ers uniform in the next NBA season. With teams like the Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, San Antonio Spurs and Golden State Warriors pitching an attractive contract to lure the Asian basketball star, the promise of becoming a mentor to budding NBA players seem to have won Lin over. That is, the next NBA season might see Jeremy Lin play big brother to Jahlil Okafor and rookie Ben Simmons.

    http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/64847/20160623/nba-rumors-philadelphia-76ers-sign-jeremy-lin-to-one-year-deal-linsanity-mentors-ben-simmons-jahlil-okafor.htm

  • Linzen

    That would take a forward thinking GM/coach, which don’t really exist in NBA today.

  • sws94

    I like alternative thinking. Lin, IMO, is more PG minded. But none of these positions have to be set in stone. If he’s starting SG there’s the playing time one would hope. But that’s not set in stone either.

  • PPP

    Unlikely, Lopez + Chandler? Dont think the nets are paying him 14m to play iff the bench. They would prolly trade with the hornets for hawes+ the 22nd.

  • cdblue10

    Lavine is a combo guard same as Lin so they can easily play together and they can easily switch on defense

  • KHuang

    I don’t think this impacts Lin at all.

    I really don’t think any team other than maybe Houston even thinks Lin is good enough to play in the NBA.

    As a Suns “fan” (I actually hate how the Suns are run), I’d be thrilled to see not just Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight gone but Ronnie Price too.

    The Suns should blow their whole team up, get new management, and start bringing in players like Lin that can actually play.

  • cdblue10

    lol,scrapped this website

  • Linzen

    That’s not a bad idea at all. Hawes had good chemistry with Lin before he broke down (or pulled an Asik)… he is a good stretch 5.

  • sws94

    Bingo. That’s the problem with everything and Lin’s usage. I think it wouldn’t much matter if Lin is placed in any guard position if the GM/coaches were forward thinking enough to just use him optimally. That’s what I’ve been trying to say, but people like to shout me down about starting this and that. I’m not interested in tying starting to ability. I’m interested in the nitty-gritty of proper playing time and involvement and want to hear about him closing over if he starts or not in a very literal way. All that other stuff is how you wrap the package, not the package.

  • sws94

    We’ll see. It’s a new GM there. But same questionable owner.

  • KHuang

    The only thing set in stone with Lin is that some undeserving nonAsian scrub will be automatically handed Lin’s role and minutes.

    The only way Lin gets to play is if other players are injured. Even if those other players play terribly, their nonAsian ethnicity still guarantees them a role over Lin.

  • KHuang

    Nonsense article.

  • PPP

    Lavine is more of a sg than pg to me. But he can back up a pg or play together in spurts. You do need a 2nd ball handler when defenders zero in to lin.

  • sws94

    I’ll say that’s at play for sure. But the teams have shown that if they need Lin, they’ll play him. The excuse was for if another player was injured, then run with him. But every so often they’d forget that and needed to win, so in goes Lin or Lin plays an extended time. Then they go back to their darlings, like a Harden or Batum and we know the results.

  • sws94

    Comedy hour.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! But that’s the salary he wants….

  • KHuang

    Same old garbage from NBA front offices:

    “Lin’s getting his Asian butt kicked every game by nonAsian D Leaguers”.

  • KHuang

    Doesn’t matter.

    He’d still get Lin’s minutes.

    Lin’s PRODUCTION is of no interest to NBA teams.

  • KHuang

    They already have a Byron Scott on Earl Watson who I though was overrated as a player and has been an AWFUL coach.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN left CHA after game 7 and is never coming back; but I find it humorous that Hornets fans are still holding out hope. My how sentiments change – diss JLIN before the season and cry for him after.

    – JLIN gone even before Cho turns his attention to JLIN (assuming his final best offer wasn’t the MLE rumor)
    – CHA has no money to keep Marv let alone JLIN/CLee/Big Al or what they really need in a rim-protector
    – Offer JLIN $12 million as a backup to Kemba and it will be rejected for a $8 million starting PG job anywhere

  • cdblue10

    Don’t be surprised if LIn will end up to either Timberwolves or Kings

  • KHuang

    I can’t inagine either of those two teams wanting Lin.

  • Linzen

    I think all Jeremy’s fans (you included) want a team, GM & coaches to fully trust him, and give him all the opportunities to success. Yes, sometimes (and for some people, like your favourite player) starting doesn’t mean a lot, cause these players have the coach’s 100% trust. They can make mistakes and still get 30mpg.
    In my opinion, if a coach doesn’t trust Jeremy enough to start him and give him room to make mistake, he would be more prone to cut/reduce Jeremy’s minute when he is not performing to his standard (e.g. Charlotte)
    That’s why I still want JLin to start 100%!

  • Linzen

    Then it depends if Lavine is a ball hog… like harden… 🙁

  • cdblue10

    Who knows????

  • KHuang

    True.

    I believe that only the Rockets want Lin – and I’m not even sure about that either.

    I did warn on this forum that Game 7 might be LIN’S LAST NBA GAME.

  • DX

    Lin said his agnet did contact Knicks when he was asking about Rose trading to NY. So Lin and his agent are very busy on FA now.

  • wandertheglobe

    Right on. Thanks Uncle Cho. LOL.

  • sws94

    I don’t disagree with thinking starting should bring trust. But he’s started, the trust wasn’t there. Posters say he has a dream to start, win a championship, and so forth. But he did start, and for a full year. I’m not saying he shouldn’t start again, but he hasn’t gone past one playoff round either. So both are goals of his.

    His path and journey hasn’t been an orthodox one. So, if there is some unorthodox way of Lin getting trust, playing time, I’m all for it. If it is the orthodox way, the usual way, I’m all for it. Just, make it happen already!

  • Linzen

    Maybe that’s Nets’ worry. They are not as optimistic that JLin would pick Atkinson over MDA?

  • ProLin

    where did he say that? From Chinese sources?

  • ProLin

    same here.

  • ProLin

    you mean Les want Lin. I’m sure Morey is like Dolan – never want to see Lin again.

  • sws94

    nothing would surprise me. I think especially Kings due to their location.

  • DX
  • donsmacau

    This trade is fantasy smoke.

  • ProLin

    Isaiah Thomas’ Celtics wants Lin? Warriors needs another scoring guard? Man these Lin-fan c***-bait articles are getting nuttier all the time.

  • Linzen

    I know! The suspense is killing me!
    If Jeremy picks chip over start, then there isn’t many choices for him… Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, OKC (if Durant stays)… cause playing as backup for a team like Clippers (or teams alike) won’t help getting that ring.

  • Linzen

    I think so… I hope so!

  • ProLin

    why do you think they won’t go for Lin? Everyone in the FO from GM down on that team is new.

  • donsmacau

    After reading this it’s not clear what the reporter is saying; most likely JLIN was referring to his agent making overtures to the Knicks LAST Season, considering it is a violation to have any contact with a team prior to Jul 1.

  • BobbyH

    Lin did said his agent contacted Knicks. But is it before or after Rose trade, we don’t know. The context is the reporter brought up the Rose trade to Knicks. But as agent, you got to call all 29 teams as diligent as possible, right?

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! I think when NYK’s coach said they wanted to get FA for PG who’s 27 to 28 yrs old that’s Lin but the talk didn’t go well or whatever…. No wonder NYK didn’t put any highlight from Linsanity. Dolan did the same like 4 yrs ago. SnT Rose immediately. LOL!

  • ProLin

    that’s a smart move. Never understood why they signed Lamb and then just bench warming. I don’t even remember Lamb on the court once during the playoffs.

  • sws94

    Um, you may want to edit this 🙂

  • I am The Jason

    Can’t wait til next Friday. A lot of money will be thrown around and I hope Lin get that team that will pay him well and have him run the offense as the starter. Honestly, the free agent PGs won’t move until Mike Conley commits to a team.

  • ProLin

    Right, he must be talking about last season which is already public knowledge. There’s no way he’s implying it just happened.

  • Rick Johnson

    @kc1nyk ‏@kc1nyk 1m1 minute ago
    Report: #Hornets offering #22 if teams will take on C-PF Spencer Hawes or SG-SF Jeremy Lamb. CHA needs space to re-sign FAs.
    https://twitter.com/kc1nyk/status/746022640570273792

  • wandertheglobe

    Lin is all over the place for clicks.

  • ProLin

    Thank you! I am also big fans of that word too but that’s not what I meant, lol…

  • cdblue10

    Nets is still a strong contender for Lin camp until they start to ask around for PG w/ o mentioning Lin but a lot of strong bloggers from Brooklyn are rooting for Lin to be their PG

  • ProLin

    They’re offering them to anyone who needs a PG… doesn’t mean the Nets will take it. It’s plausible but giving the HC I’d say they’d still want Lin more.

  • ProLin

    A lot of Brooklyn fans knew Linsanity first hand so I can believe the thirst. They’re not even asking for a winning team – just a team entertaining to watch.

  • ProLin

    This is the most hyped post season for me since I started following NBA again after Linsanity. Just want to see Lin as a starter playing for a guy he trusts.

  • 22cents

    We will see.

    Lin’s journey in the NBA is full of surprise.

  • sws94

    He was never as effective on court without Lin. That’s pretty much proven.

  • hchao

    Absolutely idiotic nonsense!

  • wandertheglobe

    If Rubio goes to Philly, scratch that off Lin’s potential landing spot.

    Sixers 'Doing Due Diligence' on Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio Trade Possibility https://t.co/UkG22YhQTl— Liberty Ballers (@Liberty_Ballers) June 23, 2016

  • sws94

    Garbage time.

  • sws94

    For some strange reason, people think Lee is worth $12-14 million without even questioning it. He does play good defense, but offensively, he’s pretty limited.

  • sws94

    I think they will.

  • ProLin

    I don’t think Sixers were very interested in Lin to begin with.

  • freemind

    definitely referring to the last season. reporter paraphrased as “曾经” and that was “in the past” contacted knicks.

  • donsmacau

    76ers were very interested and became less so after MDA relinquished his claim on the head coach spot.
    Perhaps Sixers feel they don’t have a solid chance to get JLIN at this point or perhaps these are set up rumors.
    1. Nets 75%
    2. 76ers 10%
    3. Bulls 10%
    4. Darkhorse 5% (Wolves, Grizz, Mavs…)

  • sws94

    When Linsanity struck the Nets played in NJ. They are sort of a NJ team that moved to an arena in Brooklyn. It was the Knicks fans that liked Lin, Lin tore NJ up. In fact, he had his first Linsanity game against NJ.

    Overall, though, both NY basketball teams are trying to get back to respectability and Knicks fans are hoping Rose helps. But they are about Porzinges now. And Nets fans, they are just hoping for a decent team.

  • CJSHYY
  • donsmacau

    Rox welcome to the club of the other 29 teams wanting to trade with Sixers.

    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/746008193810071553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • Rick Johnson

    Nets trading away players getting ready to tank?

    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746038398486470656

  • cdblue10

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 5m5 minutes ago
    Brooklyn has traded forward Thad Young to the Indiana Pacers for the 20th pick and a future 2nd rounder, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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  • donsmacau

    More like Kenny Atkinson & Sean Marks have met/talked with Young and he did not fit the plan so they got rid of him.

  • CJSHYY

    You really can’t trust what GM said…Young said they told him they will not trade him?? Business is Business.

  • donsmacau

    But the GM said only that Brooks Lopez was the player they were building around, but did not mention Thaddeus as a player to build around.

    Doesn’t matter what Thad Young says.

  • Linzen

    Word on the street was… Thad Young was routinely late for practice… 🙂

  • donsmacau

    Both Marks/Atkinson said they are looking for players with “high character”, we know a unrestricted free agent point guard that is extremely high character.

  • Ben Johnson

    Brooklyn still very much in play after not trading for a pg

  • Linzen

    Nets: Best offer for Young?
    Suns: We have two PGs. Choose anyone!
    Nets: We don’t want PGs.
    Suns: What!?? You need a good PG.
    Nets: That’s taken care of. Again, we don’t need any PGs.

    wink wink

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    My guess is that Rockets are going to make a strong offer to Lin. Les seems to be a big fan of Lin. We have to remember that Les was very aggressive in making an offer to Lin after Linsanity when other teams were still hesitant because they didn’t believe Lin could sustain that level of play. Now that Lin has proved himself to be a top player, imagine what Les would offer now.

    If Rockets could guarantee Lin a starting position (now that rumors are they are trying to trade Beverly), I wouldn’t mind seeing lin on the team. I remember the first game Lin and Harden played together, they were pretty good. They were attacking from both sides of the court, setting screens for each other. McHale obviously didn’t know how to utilize lin and felt he had to cover for Harden’s defensive deficiencies through Beverly.

    With MDA as the coach, I think the offense would be pretty fast tempo with a lot of pick and rolls which can really benefit both Harden and Lin. It might work. I rather have Lin on the Rockets with a chance of him playing for a coach that knows how to use him than for him to go back to Charlotte where it is obvious the coach didn’t support him (remember PJ Hairston was starting instead of Lin).

    I think Rockets or Nets would be great destinations for Lin at the moment.

  • Linzen

    Indeed. I am sure Atkinson has heard of him too. 🙂

  • BobbyH

    This open spot for M W?

  • CJSHYY

    I hate this but I really think Rox has good chance to get Lin back…. smh!

  • JustSayNo2HardensIso

    I know. I remember the days we were on this site complaining about that other Rockets site.
    Different coach is huge though. Especially when you have an owner who supports you.

  • cdblue10

    Houston,Wolves,Kings and Bulls….Nets would be the highest possibility so far.

  • donsmacau

    MDA seeking to trade Beverly is definite signal that cannot be ignored. But truly a guy like PBev does not fit MDA’s point guard centric offense.

    If Les/MDA pitches JLIN to come back, then I feel that Harden also wants JLIN back and would work with JLIN to get wins.

    Problem I see is Morey – he can’t be trusted and will be trying to hurt MDA’s chance to succeed from day 1.

  • DX

    Well said, maybe Lin want to go back the same place and prove him again.

  • Briiick

    I don’t think it is bad as long as he is paid no less than Harden.

  • psalm234

    A word of caution: MDA has been in this HOU situation in his Lakers season with Nash and Kobe.

    We know it ended with disastrous results because Nash was not the same ball-handling Nash in the Suns.
    With Kobe’s presence, Nash just looked mediocre even before his injuries.

    My concern is JLin will end up in the same situation. And he’d have wasted 2 years of his prime by then.
    Unfortunately, the scorers like Kobe and Harden will call the shots in the team. This is a high risk to gamble an insecure Harden wants to share spotlight with JLin and play defense all of a sudden.

    I see Lin in the Nets & Lin/Butler in the Bulls would be a better scenario.
    I guess we’ll know what JLin would do by July 1

  • CJSHYY

    If they can really do like what Morey said (you can’t trust GM specially Morey…) they are going to build around MDA system….. that maybe not too bad for Lin. W this PB trade… Rox maybe really going to change some culture not only listen to Harden anymore…..

  • 22cents

    “MDA seeking to trade Beverly ”

    En…..That is a news to me. ^_^.

  • DX

    Wolves & Kings, not too much.

  • Linzen
  • CJSHYY

    His agent thinks they can get 22M…..CP??

  • Rick Johnson

    Guy can’t even stay healthy. Hasn’t proven anything yet. Should have opted in and use year to prove himself for next year FA.

  • ProLin

    What a huge mistake for CP… he really believed in his own BS hype?

  • ProLin

    If he’s really serious about Lin, fired Morey first.

  • ProLin

    it’s a smart move as they are dying for picks, and Young is one of the two Nets who can actually play.

  • Rick Johnson

    Never know though, so much money floating around, some team might be foolish enough to bite.

  • Linzen

    Yup!
    Chandler: “My look itself should worth the max!”

  • zxcvb

    I was cool with Thad Young at PF, but if Marks thinks he can get a proven stretch 4, then it’s a good trade.

    Hornets put Hawes and Lamb on the trading block with their 22nd pick, so KHuang may get his wish and reunite Lamb with Lin. Personally, I wouldn’t mind having Hawes on the Nets.

  • ProLin

    Interesting… if true then the revamped team culture maybe for realz.

  • Linzen

    You are right though… Nets, Lakers and 76ers all have around 50M to throw around

  • ProLin

    and Ariza was one of those precious Rockets who shows up to play next to Harden too. Morey is just bad-s*** insane. Probably thinks he can land KD.

  • Linzen

    He makes 16M this year. If he did something positive this year to boost his value… 22M is not a stretch.
    But, he didn’t do anything.
    And, like Rick says… teams may be foolish enough to bite…

  • psalm234

    yes, his health was a big problem in the past 2 years.
    I don’t see teams willing to gamble to pay him max

  • Rick Johnson

    Rockets have tried trading everyone except the problem which is Harden.

  • Rick Johnson

    Would be so funny if he ends up with less than 16M. LOL

  • Sesshie

    Make Morey undo his moves by trading Harden, sign Lin, and then fire him.

  • Arsenium12 .

    This is likely the source (Mavs Moneyball) for the above tweet. It’s an article from today …

    “The Mavericks don’t plan on offering Chandler Parsons a max contract this summer, 105.3 The Fan’s Jeff Wade said on Thursday. That fits with rumors I’ve heard about the Mavericks’ front office plans, and with their general free agency strategy over the past few seasons.

    Dallas wants to pursue multiple top-tier free agents, starting with Mike Conley but possibly including Hassan Whiteside or other names beyond that. To do so, they need Chandler Parsons to be willing to take less money, or for him to leave entirely. What’s interesting is that Parsons’ cap hold falls just under $20 million. Because of the way the cap math works, it makes sense that Dallas would want him to sign under $20 million so they can actually get a discount.”

    See : http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2016/6/23/12013598/mavericks-free-agency-chandler-parsons-max-contract-2016-mark-cuban

  • ProLin

    Curious… you said you are from NY area – are you a Knicks fan yourself?

  • DrewBear2

    Unlikely to the extreme. There is no metric used by agents or management that could possibly justify equal pay (~$17M/year for next 2 years). It would also insert massive tension in the locker room between Harden & supporters and Jeremy, which would spell death to any hope of developing team chemistry.

  • ProLin

    Sixers like them young and hot off the lottery.

  • ProLin

    I can see people offer 10-12 mil for CP.

  • Linzen

    Good find A12!
    Wow! We are still talking about 20M (and, how can you say 20M is a discount????). This FA is going to be insane.

  • ProLin

    nah w/o Morey Harden is just another ball-hugging prima donna. Hire a new, respectable GM and give power to MDA to tone him down. If Harden balks then trade him. Morey is the source of all this evil, including disgusting stuff like instructing crotchyfans to attack Lin to get an edge over Les. If Les’ a smart business person, fire that eel already.

  • ProLin

    Eh, no. Lin has total control over his destiney and knowing how much he values trust and loyalty, He’d rather stay a sub in Charlotte than going being tortured by Morey again. JLin is more about money or even basketball.

  • ProLin

    Only Les wanted him back. Morey already hated MDA, and now Lin? He’s gonna get his secret weapon crotchyfans to goto war for him full time!

  • zxcvb

    Nets can’t tank. They have none of their 1st rd picks until 2019!

  • Sesshie

    Both needs to go. Otherwise, JLin shouldn’t consider the Rockets unless it’s the only team that offers him starting PG.

  • PPP

    yep, they sign conley, lol.

  • Linzen

    You got me…. hahahaha

  • Rick Johnson

    Knicks still a petty classless organization:

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/746057103165497348

  • ProLin

    Honestly, I personally think that the only way JLin will ever be involved with that organization is if there’s a new GM, no Harden, and Les sold the team to become the new SuperSonics and they move to Seattle. Basically 0%.

  • Linzen

    If that happens I will buy a season ticket!
    Oh I can only dream…

  • Briiick

    Sounds like Bulls need a good PG now. If they can’t get one (e.g., Lin), they can still use the place holder traded from Knicks.

  • Linzen

    Knicks deleted the video. Too bad I want to see it

  • CJSHYY

    Bc so many people complained about it.

  • PPP

    oh boy…ashamed to be a knicks fan. damn.

  • ProLin

    When did they ever had class during the Dolan years?

  • Linzen
  • ProLin

    sounds like they might offer max to Conley….

  • ProLin

    seemed reasonable if the Bulls are blowing the team up and starting over.

  • Briiick

    Lin is smart to see what we have seen, and more. The only way that could work is to offer Lin higher than Harden to make Lin a true PG, so that Harden understands he is not untouchable any more.

  • wandertheglobe

    Cuban is not dumb enough to give aways millions to a pretty boy as marketing ploy.

  • Linzen

    The only time I can think of… February 2012.

  • Sesshie

    lol let’s hope so. Even though JLin reuniting with MDA is a tempting scenario for me, Rockets is such a toxic organization, starting from GM to players. Too much risk.

  • wandertheglobe

    Ariza was D and 3 kind of player. What happened to him in Houston?

  • cdblue10

    LIn and Howard to Nets…..hmnnnn

  • NONONO

    I know NYK is bad match for Lin. I wonder Lin would go Bulls too because i do not see him to be happy playing with Bulter. You can tell some players could be bad teammates with Lin such as Melo, Kobe, Bulter, IT, Rondo, Wade. Harden is actually not a bad teammate (the problems were their FO and coach). But i still think Nets would be the best choice.

  • ProLin

    Harden has zero respect for Lin and often used his influence to stop Lin from being too much of a spotlight. No doubt he enjoyed seeing Lin playing behind much less talented PG. He’s a terrible teammate to Lin, and from how his other current teammates treat him, he’s a horrible teammate to everyone.

  • ProLin

    D12 doesn’t like PNR so I don’t like this move.

  • ProLin

    that’s not class… that’s just them enjoying winning a lottery. Then they tore the ticket up and return to being Da Knicks.

  • I am The Jason

    A lot players are on the trade today. Add Ibaka to the list

    https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/746063702500204544

  • Linzen

    I should be specific.
    The team and players on court in that month had class. I’m sure the FO and owner didn’t.

  • Sesshie

    Excluding Melo and JR Smith.

  • Linzen

    I thought they were off the court and not signed in February? I can be wrong…

  • zxcvb

    Lin and Ryan Anderson to Nets would be perfect.

  • ProLin

    The only things about MDA which is special to Lin are 1. His system is PG-centric (that’s not unique at all), and 2. During Linsanity he said fudge it and play him as a starter and closer. Any coach believing in Lin could do both easily. I would say the trust between Lin and Atkinson, who really is one of his mentors, is much greater than Lin and MDA, who’s were ready to wave Lin just before Linsanity. So no, I don’t tyhink MDA is that special to Lin and honestly he might need Linsanity more than Lin needs him.

  • Linzen

    Westbrook, Durant, Butler and Adam!? Scary 😱
    https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/746068914883301378

  • bigman fatman

    I thinked derk noweatski telling Cuban he not accepted garbage playered Parsons getting maxed money. Derk tooked pay cut to saved cap spaces but Cuban hiring garbage playered

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i don’t know how you can lump Butler with those losers. Butler and Lin would make the best backcourt duo in the league. he is just like Lin, only bigger and speaks his mind

  • NONONO

    Hornets sends JLamb out and try to keep Lin? I hope Lin will only consider starting pg. It is the best chance and it could be the last chance for a long term contact.

  • ProLin

    well, you forgot how Melo talked about Lin? 🙂 And I guess the point of my comment is that Dolan and his puppet GMs never had any class.

  • zxcvb

    They desperately want to resign Batum and Marvin. Maybe go after Dwight too.

    Lin is gone. He wants to start.

  • NONONO

    Butler is great player. But i do not see Lin play well with him.

  • Sesshie

    Well I remember watching a post game interview where the Knicks lost and JLin didn’t do that well (probably the game against Miami). MDA stood by JLin and emphasized that he’s a great player when reporters implied that Linsanity was over. I became a MDA fan at that point and wish JLin have a coach as supportive as MDA in the future.

  • bigman fatman

    Lin not played well with playered taking 20 shot in game.

  • NONONO

    Just found the same idea on Realgm.

    Re: Not In The Face – The Jeremy Lin Thread 3 + 1
    Post#1124 » by qiantom » Today 4:42 pm

    “I said Lamb was the biggest obstacle to resigning Lin. If they get rid of Lamb, resigning Lin becomes much more likely. No idea though what Lin would do if offered a starting job by another team.”

  • DrewBear2

    Bingo. Great move. They shed a slacker and $12.1M. It would’ve been a good move even if they got nothing in return. They can use the picks in subsequent trades or maybe find a hidden gem in the draft.

  • ProLin

    Unless they did a blockbuster like Chicago and trade KW, there’s no chance we’ll see Lin back in Charlotte.

  • ProLin

    But both Durant and Westbrook might not be back.

  • Linzen

    True. But, if they get Butler, it is a much easier “basketball decision” for Durant.

  • ProLin

    well that’s kinda what you expect what a coach should do though… we’re just used to crappy treatment for Lin I guess. Plus at that time MDA’s own reputation is closely linked with creating Linsanity, so he should stand by Lin. My issue with him was he never recognized Lin and promoted him before Linsanity, yet he tried to take all the credit. It was just luck that he decided to start Lin.

  • lleepar

    In light of today’s trade, this tweet from last week doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy about trusting the Nets front office.
    https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM/status/732334405641863168

  • sws94

    He becomes an FA July 1st, but isn’t it true he may not pick a team until later in the month? When did he pick Charlotte last year, what date?

  • I am The Jason

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/746059710030319616

    We all know that certain player they can sign a max too 🙂

  • ProLin

    yes but I have a feeling Durant is ready to move on.

  • NONONO

    Nets could be top 3 teams in the east next season. I hope Lin would be the key reason for it.

  • DrewBear2
  • sws94

    I heard a scout on the Mike Francesa show (high rated talk show with veteran talkshow host that knows the NBA well) about various players in the draft. He said over and over teams are establishing cultures and he talked quite a bit about 2 point guards playing together, how some teams are looking to utilize that. He also said players that are versatile, can play more than one position and guard more than one position, are highly valued. Ben Simmons is valued a lot of his versatility.

    This is why I’m stressing that Lin’s 2-position player status that Rich Cho mentioned is a selling point in this year’s FA. It may not be what fans here are focused on, but that’s the buzz in the NBA and that may be one of the things that some NBA teams are looking at and can bring Lin’s price potentially up. It also sets Lin apart from some other PG specific PGs or ones that can not guard SGs due to their height. KHuang is onto something when he says consider Lin at starting SG and it is possible Lin may be considered to play big minutes with an established point guard by some teams FOs.

  • sws94

    It’s the NBA. That’s how things are done. There are no promises, just statements of intent. And they can change that in an eye blink.

  • sws94

    OK, not too bad. So July 1st may be uneventful except for a few rumors. But we already have them. And then sometime after he could sign with a team.

  • donsmacau

    Taking one comment and extrapolating it as a rule to the thousands of other comments provided each day by the talking heads means nothing.

    JLIN as a combo-SG is like using a Howitzer cannon to shoot a rabbit, a cannon can do much much more.

    When JLIN is on the floor he should be the POINT GUARD – primary initiator of playmaking, that is the maximum value that JLIN provides to ANY team. When JLIN makes the decisions, then his team performs leading to WINs. JLIN is a good SG but not the top tier; JLIN is a top 5 PG in the league – stop wasting JLIN’s effort on the court – stop misusing JLIN’s talents.

  • ProLin

    yes I think Lin being a combo-guard is great for his career. But his best as a starting PG, floor general. Anything less he’s just above average.

  • sws94

    don, let someone else answer sometimes please. I’ve heard what you have to say and nothing you say is fresh. You’re against it, I get it. But I’m interested in other approaches to Lin. Thank you.

  • donsmacau

    Flagged.
    You do NOT have the right on a free forum to dictate who you wish is allowed to post and what they are allowed to say. Please delete his post mod.

  • ProLin

    I don’t think they will do that and I think Lin might agree. I think 12-15 mil is enough to show their respect. I think if the Nets draft well with their new pick AND signs Lin ASAP, they might attract some stars looking for another Spurs-like system.

  • sws94

    What is the market? Lin is going into a free market and what is his huge selling point over others. And what are the perceptions of how Lin can help a team. What’s offered to Lin will be based on what a team thinks they need for the right place in the context of their system and players. Not what Lin may want. So Lin has to take what he wants as to what is available and negotiate. This is like any other candidate vying for a position where there is competition. What’s on Lin’s “resume” that makes him stand out? That’s more the point of my post, not what we feel are Lin’s best qualities but more putting any and all qualities Lin has to use and matching it to team’s needs.

  • ProLin

    that is a little too optimistic to me. I’d just like for them to have a winning record and make the playoffs at 8th seed. Anything more is gravy.

  • ProLin

    Yup, plus at that time it might be true. But they’re offered a late first round pick and they’ll have no picks for years in the future… of course they’ll make the trade.

  • DrewBear2

    Check time stamp on that tweet. It was more than a month ago, not last week. My impression back then was that Marks & Atkinson said they’d “like” to build around Brook & Thad, but Thad interpreted that to mean they wouldn’t trade him. I don’t think it reflects poorly on the Nets.

  • DrewBear2

    Last year was unusual in that Jeremy had to wait for other dominoes to fall. It’s possible he signs sooner this year, but who knows what might happen?

  • DrewBear2

    No doubt Jeremy’s versatility, as repeatedly shown this past season, expands the demand for his services. Not only can he move between guard positions, he can also perform well either as a starter or 6th man. Yes, yes…he’s better as a starter, but it helps his free agency that he can do both.

  • donsmacau

    Batum was a 6th man once
    Harden was a 6th man once
    .. many more players…

    If a team had a conversation with any starter below the age of 32 about returning to their old 6th man role, how do YOU think that would be received?

  • JLin fan from Australia

    JLin will return to US in 3-4 days. Meanwhile we have drafts and trades to have fun with. Then the real FA begins in slightly over a week. That’s the real fun to begin with. Wonder whether JLin will surprise us again with his choice this round:-)

    My prayer for JLin remains the same: Sign with a team/org that FO and esp HC and coach team trust JLin 100% to be THE PG with at least 15 million per season. Let’s see which team JLin will pick soon.

  • DrewBear2

    Jeremy hasn’t been a regular starter for nearly 2 full seasons, so he’d really be “returning” to his “old” starting role.

    Once again you’re missing the point. I wasn’t arguing for him to actively seek a 6th man role. I was saying that his ability to effectively (critical word) play either role benefits his free agency value.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lin said his free agency process will become more serious after the draft. So time marches on. Hope he will have peace throughout this process.

  • sws94

    The interesting part to me is the ways teams are looking to play different than the standard 1-5 type of definitions. Remember the Spurs twin towers? I’m not sure, maybe there were other twin towers before them, but the idea of 2 centers playing together must have seem off the wall at one time. But not anymore. I like the idea of being creative with the talents of the players. Two PGs gives two different looks and depending on the PGs, can create a huge challenge for defenses. Heck, Phoenix tried 3 one season. That’s where someone like Lin becomes very attractive. Plus he’s proven in a few systems now and has the temperament to start or kill it off the bench without sulking. I just wish FOs would see if you do that to a player, keep the minutes reasonably steady when possible. That hasn’t really been the case yet for Lin.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN’s true fans could care less about the demented organizations and tribalists who have actively suppressed JLIN.

    Detractors love to note, support and embellish the prejudices & injustices put on JLIN by Byron Scott, McHale and Steve Clifford in allowing lesser players to play over JLIN – even with that JLIN is right around 50/50 starts.

    I understand that you are quick to provide an argument which you would not put-forth as an argument to “benefit” Harden/Batum or am I mistaken?

  • sws94

    Exactly. It’s not advocating a bench role. It’s expanding the starter role to SG and then versatility if that’s valued and him being utilized with proper everything he’s looking for on another team that meets most of Lin’s criteria. It’s bringing his own unique resume to the FA table and having an A, B and C plan that don’t fall off too much for the C plan.

  • zxcvb

    In addition to Lin, getting Bazemore or Ryan Anderson would be fantastic.

  • donsmacau

    A shame we only have less than a handful of choir left to preach to since Alain de Gervais has quit his support.

  • zxcvb

    Totally realistic if they let Lin play his game. This year, the 3rd seed only won 48 games. Lin’s Hornets had the same wins only they didn’t have the tiebreak. East it weak outside of Cleveland and Lin beat them last season when Kemba sat out.

  • PPP

    Rockets

  • Jamie

    Yah keep dreaming scrub, is all I would like to tell him lol

  • DrewBear2

    The hard fact is in the past 3 seasons, Jeremy has started 76 of 223 (34%) games he’s played. Now that 34% is significant enough that his agent can tout the higher performance levels when he starts, but they can’t simply ignore the 66% of the games when he was 6th man. It needs to be listed to emphasize his higher efficiency as a starter.

    As for those who can’t acknowledge the distinction being made, I don’t know if it’s intentional or genuine obtuseness. In either case it’s beyond my communication abilities to attempt any further clarification.

  • Jamie

    Stop being so negative man.
    Lin is good enough to play in the NBA
    The Suns are beyond saving. Everyone on that team can be waived and no one will pick them up.

  • PPP

    Unless they have plans to sign some solid free agents, Im not sure Nets are the ideal team now for Lin in terms of winning.

    Only plus is he may be able to play freely and pad his stats but missing the playoffs, let alone the chance of a championship.

    tough decision.

  • Jamie

    Stat padding on a tanking team is pretty meaningless at this point for Lin.
    The Nets are tanking/rebuilding. They really need to bring back solid players from FA or Lin should definitely avoid this team.

  • donsmacau

    Then we are all in agreement – JLIN would be a great addition to the Playoff Bound Brooklyn Nets.

  • PPP

    agreed.

  • Jamie

    I think he’s a very good combo guard. A decent scorer and a decent play maker. I don’t see him as a traditional PG, but more as a dynamic combo guard like Lillard, Lowry who excel at scoring and some playmaking. A modern PG

  • Rick Johnson

    Lin still can’t get a foul call. LOL

    https://twitter.com/kumaw0rld/status/746094302300823552

  • sws94

    IMO, maybe I’m wrong, but I think few posters are interested in the Nets. Most seem to be for Atkinson. If he wasn’t coaching the team, then there would probably be very little interest for the Nets.

  • donsmacau

    “maybe I’m wrong” valid

  • zxcvb

    That kid’s favorite player: Draymond Green.

  • zxcvb

    You overestimate the East. Lin can turn Brooklyn into a playoff team immediately. As for titles, one step at a time. Even GSW didn’t win a ring this year. Let Lin establish himself as a true starting PG first.

  • Lin Dunn

    Not necessarily a tough decision. Lin already stated things he is taking into consideration- a coach who trust him, the team’s style of play, team mates with humility, starter and playing time. I don’t think he will get the best from all of the above. But I believe he will find a reasonable compromise that he will be happy with. BTW he did not state a championship contending team as one of the deciding factor. There is no perfect destination for any FA. (unless Durant goes to GSW).
    Back to Nets- coach -check
    team’s style of play – semi check since HC is Atkinson
    humble team mates – kind of unknown, at least there are no Melo, and JH
    starter and playing time – check

  • DrewBear2

    I’m no NBA historian, but the biggest turnaround I know about in recent history is when Jason Kidd took the Nets from 26 to 52 wins in the early 2000s. This past season the Nets had 21 wins, so it’d be a 27 game jump to get them to 48 wins next year. That’s certainly within the realm of possibility, but “totally realistic” just sounds too optimistic.

    I think Jeremy has the potential to accomplish as much as Jason. But at age 28 (when he joined the Nets), Kidd had already played several years at starting PG. Jeremy is not at that level yet. It would take a full 82-game season of sustained Linsanity-level play to lead such a turnaround.

    Possible? Yes, that’d be a fantasy season. Probable? ehhh…I wouldn’t bet much money on that even if I was a betting man.

  • donsmacau

    “Jeremy is not at that level yet.” I believe JLIN is at that level now, JLIN believes he’s the best he’s ever been.

    “It would take a full 82-game season of sustained Linsanity-level play to lead such a turnaround.” Nobody puts together 82 straight games of Linsanity, assuming you were just being hyperbolic – JLIN will do enough to get the Nets (or any other team in the East) to the playoffs and he will have stellar performances when necessary to accomplish that feat.

  • psalm234

    Many BB Analysts have high opinion of JLin (#2 only after Conley). Hardwood Paroxysm is one of them
    @HPbasketball I’d still kind of rather have Lin. That’s just how good Lin was last year.

    Full conversation:
    @HPbasketball: Houston fans seem to have very high expectations of their team pulling off something with very few assets. But…. Morey’s great at trades.
    @jcordray: Isn’t Bev a better PG than any FA other than Conley? That’s worth something probably.
    I’d put Lin over him, but that’s it.
    Bev at 4y/23M vs Lin at 4y/50 though?
    @HPbasketball: I’d still kind of rather have Lin. That’s just how good Lin was last year.
    https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/746081661964541953

  • Lin Dunn

    Just found this @ youtube

  • Linzen
  • bolero

    yah. “i won’t trade you today maybe tomorrow.. “

  • psalm234

    Did Lin just add ‘where the city is located’ to his FA criteria?
    Perhaps he wants to see if the city has In-N-Out LOL

    YT description

    After a charitable event on June 23 in Shanghai, Jeremy Lin was asked for comments on being a free agent what’s his option criteria of a new team. Lin said: “For me the most important thing is that I want to be happy. There are a lot of factors to take into account, such as the coaching staff, style of play, be a starter or not, whether the team is strong, and the city located. Most of all, I have to be very happy.”

  • PPP

    true dat

  • heart

    It looks like the kids & Lin are having fun. It seems the smallest kid w/ #7 on his TAGHeuer jersey is tagging Lin to the wall.

  • PPP

    “whether the team is strong” – people seems to overlook this over here, haha.

  • sws94

    In my opinion, the higher production as a starter is due in part to involvement. Starting in and of itself just means you play with the first unit, some of the best players on the team, and you play within their sets and such. If there is a key player out, you have to do more as a spot starter which is what Lin did. Other players have seen big stats when they do this, I think Barrea had outstanding stats in spot starts.

    Lin often started when a key player was out so he needed to dole out more assists, had more touches, looked to score more. When Lin started with Batum and Kemba, his numbers weren’t impressive (a game in Philadelphia, most of the time he started with Batum out and once with Kemba out). I look at time on the floor with certain players with him and his touches, and I don’t see a huge difference bench or starting per time on the floor. Also, there was a period in his 2nd year in Houston where Lin started with Harden and the rest. Now, he was coming off a back injury but I distinctly remember the board saying Lin has to do better to keep the starting position before Beverley gets back. Lin just did ok, not like when he spot started.

    The biggest key is Lin is a rhythm player. He comes in, gets the feel, doesn’t have pressure on him to score or sit. But if you just allot the minutes to him regardless, then it boils down to his touches and how much he is needed to assist and score. It’s a rhythm thing, Lin is more naturally inclined to do better starting for that reason.

    As for 6th man vs. backup, we know the difference. And some others here do. Sometimes, that’s all we’ll have.

  • donsmacau

    Right, about as strong as the sportswriters who predicted Hornets would win just 27 games before last season began, hahaha

  • Lin Dunn

    The kids are so cute.

  • PPP

    Rockets have a good chance if MDA is really pushing and provided Les really likes lin. Have doubt now with the Nets as the team seems not ready to win after trading Young for picks.

  • psalm234

    He mentioned playoff before so strong team definitely is a factor

    I can see Bulls w/ Butler can have higher priority over a rebuilding Nets

  • PPP

    agreed with the Bulls and don’t know about Hoiburg

  • Linzen

    Jeremy going to GSW confirmed! :))))
    Coaching staff – check
    Style of play – check
    Starter – NO, but he should be happy playing with Curry
    Strong team – check, and then check couple more times
    City – Big check

    okay, calm down. JK

  • Jamie

    omg Bev is worse than any FA lol he does not belong in the NBA

  • PPP

    uh…..can’t argue. haha

  • sws94

    He may want to play in a warm city, on the West coast as a first choice, who knows?

    I won’t say anything else to keep your job easier 🙂

  • sws94

    But is the city in the right location? 🙂

    idk. You know I’m all over the team boards and forums trying to gage interest. I think there’s a good amount still for Lin in Chicago and as starting PG, so first option. Maybe coming from the media and some say the team.

  • CJSHYY

    Bulls maybe also in rebuild mode or they have someone in mind ….
    https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/746098175606460417

  • ProLin

    Yes, I totally can see that happening provided the Dubs has cap room for him.

  • Lin Dunn

    Location may mean something totally different from a warm ,weather e.g. opportunities for personal growth. Yeah BB players should have some sort of a life outside of BB. In CHA he enrolled in some art/ painting classes. And poor Lin has to learn Chinese via skype. 30 – 60 mins an evening 4-5 times a week post game. How about stay in a city where there are real teachers who are able to teach him face to face. That will point to west coast cities and some east coast cities e.g. NY.

  • ProLin

    yeah well let’s all hope that dreams comes true.

  • Linzen

    Yeah… more news about Bulls rebuilding…
    https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/746100339410010114

  • CJSHYY

    He likes west coast more than east coast that’s for sure.

  • sws94

    I agree.

  • CJSHYY

    So it’s true. They are really going to send Butler out of Bulls too???

  • PPP
  • Linzen

    Looks that way.
    I don’t know why they blow up the team like that. Yes, they missed the playoffs but I thought they were one or two pieces away from contending again. Puzzling…???

  • ProLin

    Blow it up and tank….

  • Linzen

    Without doing any homework… I think they do if they let go of MoBuckets, Barnes and few other small pieces.

  • CJSHYY

    Lakers should do it.

  • ProLin

    I think location is about proximity to his family. Asians really want to stay close to their family.

  • Rick James

    no playing time – check

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe these players are hard to deal so….rebuild …

  • CJSHYY

    If Lakers can get some good players he will pick Lakers if not it’s Rox IMO.

  • ProLin

    He wants a city where his family can attend games easily. Since no Cali teams is suitable and Portland has Lillard, NBA should grant Seattle a team ASAP so JLin can play there.

  • Jamie

    Bulls are so dumb
    Lin Butler in LA?

  • Rick James

    lol, got to love the kid who keeps grabbing his leg lol

  • CJSHYY

    Maybe…if Lakers can get this deal.

  • David Kim

    i am little confused about lin’s destination after all those trades and trades rumors…LOL

  • Linzen

    yeah… maybe around 10min a game… if lucky 🙁

  • PPP

    its fun, isn’t it, haha

  • ProLin

    Lin will not go back to the Lakers…

  • Lin Dunn

    Does Kobe has any influence on the Lakers?

  • ProLin

    okay I watched it.. he didn’t say “the city located”. He just said as a factor “city”. That’s it. It could mean location/weather/culture/# of chruches/# of Asians…

  • ProLin

    but lower than if he’s a starter, choaching, style of play.

  • Jamie

    forever but the lakers wont listen to him anymore
    they dont owe him anything

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks for clarifying, I copied and paste the youtube description.

  • PPP

    all these are lower than happiness, so he should remain with the hornets, haha.

  • Linzen

    Don’t go back. Don’t go back. Don’t go back.
    https://twitter.com/ESPNCharlotte/status/746081994749128704

  • ProLin

    I’d say being a starter with a coach he trusts will bring him more happiness than being pulled for KW’s ISO magic over and over and over…

  • CJSHYY

    Not sure about that but Kobe will be in Taiwan this weekend.

  • pandaboy99

    my guess is lin stays in charlotte, as cho is clearning the books for a huge offer for lin which will show a sign of respect

  • ProLin

    Dubs will only probably do a Charlotte like deal with him – minimal 2 year thing.

  • Ulysses Modder

    Never trade Butler only for pick 2

  • donsmacau

    Offseason gets = Batum at max and Big Al for $2.2million

  • ProLin

    The real show of respect is trade KW and make Lin the starter.

  • Lin Dunn

    No matter how he cleans the books, CHA has 6 mil to offer.

  • PPP

    He can start with the Rockets and MDA is the only coach he could trust together with playing style. Not sure about Atkinson as a rookie coach, He may crack under pressure.

    Ya Rockets, here I come – Lin

  • ProLin

    don’t worry, unless all of NBA team who needs a starter decided to go all racist on Lin, there’s very little chance he’ll return to Charlotte and being blamed for games KW lost from the start.

  • Lin Dunn

    Team mates with humility?

  • 7Jeremiah17

    I bet you ten trillion dollars your guess is wrong.

  • donsmacau

    So Cho cleans the books, offers JLIN $12 million (same money paid to Kemba) and has JLIN come off the bench for 19 minutes per game when MKG back in the lineup – does that make sense?

  • 7Jeremiah17

    I’m trying to make some money here.

  • Linzen

    hmmm… Maybe Cho should offer KW for Butler?
    Lin, Batum, Butler & MKG can do a lot of damage.

  • psalm234

    Let’s wait until all the draft dust settles 🙂

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Should be. He has a very hectic schedule for his trip but he seems to enjoy it very much. He will have a clearer picture after draft and its aftermath. He will talk with his agent about possibilities soon. It’s going to be rather “intense” time for JLin and his team soon:-)

  • David Kim

    just for fun…
    what if lin gets offers from only two teams Hornets and Rockets, which team Lin should choose?

  • PPP

    you mean humble teammates?

    Unless you don’t want to win, or else you need to play with superstars who, 99% of them, have egos. You need to deal with it or just join a lousy team with scrub players so that your stats will look good but vacationing after 4/15 of each year.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Rockets

  • David Kim

    i agree…

  • 7Jeremiah17

    what if lin gets offers from only two teams Nets and Spurs, which team Lin should choose?

  • David Kim

    Nets for starting job…

  • Lin Dunn

    Actually having God’s peace is most important to him. He talks about that often in his testimony, not in these short interviews.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Starter job obviously from my perspective. However I’m not JLin. His “insights” are huge different than all of us:-)

  • Linzen
  • pandaboy99

    Lin would play the 2 and batum moves to his natural 3 spot is how theyd work it. since courtney lee is gone

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Good that they have moved away from JLin now:-) They know they can’t take him back as a discount anymore.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Did you ever answer my question about what you thought of prospective coaches Atkinson and Pop based on their looks?

  • CJSHYY

    What about Lamb & Hawks?

  • pandaboy99

    lol well i guess lin to the nets then ha

  • David Kim

    isnt he shooting Guard?

  • CJSHYY

    I think they knew Lin will not come back.

  • psalm234

    thanks but still ‘city’ really doesn’t explain much

    we know he loves NY, maybe not so much on Houston 🙂
    I guess a city that makes him happy would qualify

    As you said, it could be proximity to family & loved ones, weather, culture, church, etc

  • Linzen

    guess nobody is biting on them…

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! So they will not sign Lee? Too expensive?

  • Ulysses Modder

    As last year, Lin has no options

  • psalm234

    The happiness that he mentioned might play a factor in the city
    The strongest factor could be how close it is to family & friends since he draws his strength from them

    Hard to speculate with so many factors lol

  • David Kim

    so bigger offer for lin?? LOL

  • sws94

    I think he’s an off-the-bench 3 point shooter. Not sure if this impacts Lin.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    He may start for Spurs too, sooner or later. Spurs offer a faster path to a championship, more security, and a coach who can boss superstars around rather than vice versa.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    kemba fans are shaking in their boots now that Lin is absolutely 100% not returning

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Nop. I didn’t. I’m very busy lately. I haven’t had a good chance to view any of these two. So, I can’t give you the answer. I will do something about it when I know which teams JLin might choose to go. I need a good look when they talk about JLin to have a clue. Very hard to do so if it’s nothing to do with JLin.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thank goodness for stars like Curry who can perform well without a sense of entitlement. Every one has ego. You mean behaving in an entitled way right.

  • blueCypher

    Marco is more shooting guard , clearly not point.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Lin had 8 or 9 options last year. This year he’ll have some real good ones.

  • psalm234

    Very interesting.

    Belinelli (SF) has 2 more yrs in his $6.3M/yr contract

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Yep. My guess JLin has told them someway since he signed up with them….

  • CJSHYY

    For Batum.

  • psalm234

    SG/SF

  • David Kim

    will it impact for lin?

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Not sure about the actual offers though. But one thing I did know they didn’t give him a good and decent offer. Glad that it ain’t true this year anymore.

  • donsmacau

    So where do you put MKG at the 4?

  • PPP

    rockets..cluchfans be damned. haha

  • donsmacau

    That settles the whole issue with an emphatic period full-stop at the end.

  • CJSHYY
  • PPP

    very good idea

  • CJSHYY

    I think so.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lee will most likely not want to return.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    We don’t know exactly what happened last summer, but it seems as if the Grizzlies gave him a reasonable offer. Lin chose to take a chance on the Hornets.

  • sws94

    I don’t think this signing impacts Lin or Lee.

  • Lin Dunn

    Parker still has something to give. Spurs may trade away Mills.

  • psalm234

    The made offers that we heard Lin declined was the Nets (low+tanking in previous regime) and Memphis (4-yr backup PG salary)

  • PPP

    not really, they can renounce lee and al after july 1 provided cap goes up to 94m.

  • CJSHYY

    Lamb?

  • Ulysses Modder

    Lin had 8 or 9 options and was playing in Hornets for two million?
    What???

  • psalm234

    Belinelli can be seen as the 6th Man
    I think they’re preparing for Lin’s replacement to strengthen the bench

  • Lin Dunn

    A bit gloomy?

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Not tanking. They made the playoffs that season.

  • Ulysses Modder

    Lamb Out

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Lin was convinced that the Hornets would give him a lot of PT and a big role. Money was not the issue in that decision.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    In your dream……………….:-) Not going to happen even though it sounds good in a way:-)

  • Uh-Oh

    So valid!

  • JLin fan from Australia

    This ended up with another lie JLin received from over the years. This time was from Cliff and Hornets as JLin only played 0.5 minutes in average from previous season.

  • CJSHYY

    I think so too.

  • wandertheglobe

    And Lin is not coming back. Not enough minutes with MKG and Belinelli.

  • Uh-Oh

    Of course rockets. At least Les offered Lin good money, unlike Cheap Cho and Michael Jackson only offered Lin 2 ml and sit on the bench.

  • Uh-Oh

    Oops. Sorry, Michael Jackson.
    I mean cheap Michael Jordan.

  • PPP

    did i say 99% of them, or may be 98%, haha

  • Ulysses Modder

    I may be very crazy, but I think Lin will play in Houston

  • psalm234

    So Nathan’s source said Nets and JackJack’s source (Lin’s buddy) said Rox
    Which one is the better sauce? lol

    https://twitter.com/JackJacktran8/status/746101067247562752
    @JackJacktran8 My Source certain 100% Rox now
    @indigoonearth But who is your source may I ask? know him personally or…?
    ‏@zukovka His source is someone NOT in front office. Ignore Jack. I’ve told him before he has no worthy source
    @JackJacktran8 My source eats Dim Sum and hang out with Lin, enough said..lol
    ‏@zukovka I don’t believe your source. NO Lin friend betrays him by leaking anything. NONE. Tightest inner group in NBA

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Lin opted for a lower salary 2 years with 2nd year player’s option with Hornets whereas all other teams(8/9 of them) have no player’s option and of longer duration and of higher salary as reported. Haha

  • psalm234

    If Lin plays in Houston, I may be going crazy for a while 🙂
    #temporaryLinsanity

  • grover chang

    Doesnt seem so crazy. I just don’t know if I could stomach Rocket fans. Even after watching inept Bev and Lawson try to play with Harden they have “nonasian” glasses . Lin could do no right, Harden could do no wrong. Every turnover is a confirmation that Lin stinks and a blind eye is given to every Harden turnover.

  • Uh-Oh

    There are many crazy pills out there for all kinds of craziness. No worry.

  • blueCypher

    The only positive with the rockets is dantoni.

    Harden will still require a high usage rate

  • Uh-Oh

    Lin should choose to flick a dime or nickel to decide. Head nets. Tail Spurs.

  • grover chang

    PTSD, I already could hear Drexler and houston TV commentators talking about Lin during games. Best TV analyst to Listen to during Lin era – NY>Hornets> >>LA>>>>>Houston.

  • donsmacau

    So rather than clearing the books to bring free agents back, Cho just cluttered up the books some more by $6 million to restrict his ability to bring back free agents.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    In other words, only Nathan is allowed to betray Lin by tweeting to the world.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    easy on the sauce, please. i like to actually taste my burgers

  • Lin Dunn

    Lin’s inner circle of friends seems to be loyal. It is not their style to disclose confidential style. So who is this dim sum buddy?

  • Lin Dunn

    Nathan is not Lin’s personal friend.

  • cdblue10

    I got dimsum sauce too

  • psalm234

    somehow being a scapegoat and the end of racist jokes is the farthest thing from the word “happiness”

    but maybe it’s just me and you blessed/cursed by having good long-term memory 🙂

  • 7Jeremiah17

    No he’s not. But he claims that a Lin confidant hinted Lin will sign with Nets and Nathan is tweeting about it.

  • KHuang

    $3 million a year for 3 years is NOT a reasonable offer for a double figure nonAsian scorer in today’s NBA.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Nathan is more credible since he’s been in the NBA media business. Jack is just a fan like you and me who posts on message boards. Jack does nice work with his graphics designs and he sells stuff like t-shirts. i’d put $ on Nathan over Jack 100% of the time

  • KHuang

    Here comes the LIN REPLACEMENT, just like I predicted.

    I’m sure Charlotte thinks he’s better defensively than Lin is.

  • psalm234

    yeah, I also have a hard time believing Lin’s close circle will leak who JLin will sign after a few years w/ no leak

    Lin probably hasn’t even heard all the offers since the NBA draft is tonight.
    How can he make a rash decision?

  • casual bb fan

    IMO no relecancy of ‘impacts lin” as Lin will not be a Hornets this FA. It only go to show that Lin’s extremely low salary with the Hornets was abnormal/an exception. Haha

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    not only that, Lin doesn’t even know where he is going to sign with yet..

  • psalm234

    true, this whole thing is blown out of proportion
    One friend might hear the JLin team discusses about this and that then jumped to conclusion

  • grover chang

    My long-term memory is not that good. I live in Houston. No one locally is clamoring to get Lin back. His name is not even mentioned.

  • psalm234

    I blame it to nervous energy that long-time Lin fans have to wait 7 more days before July 1

    They have to think of something to hold on to in the mind 🙂

  • psalm234

    oh my. I feel bad for you now

    But your short-term memory is good then!

    JLin or someone in JLin team, if you read this, know that happiness is hard to come when team fans don’t want you to be there

  • CJSHYY
  • heart

    Read Jack’s tweets. He said the source is from his son’s friend who’s a buddy of Lin. We’ll know in 7 days who’s correct. Hope it will turn out well for Lin.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Yeah, I thought the atmosphere would be more fun. It’s actually kind of weird. But Nathan shouldn’t use Lin to promote himself and then trash Jack’s sauce.

  • KHuang

    Houston should try throwing in Capela or even Jones.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    He might have some idea.

  • casual bb fan

    Hmmm. No relevancy there as Lin already indicated to Hornets he will not be returning will the signing of the 2nd year player’s option. There is no fun in your misconceive idea anyways. Haha

  • 7Jeremiah17

    How could they turn down Bev? Bev is an offer you can’t refuse.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    LOLOLOLOL

  • 7Jeremiah17

    And Rox if it lands on its side.

  • Linzen

    Or even harden… that should do it. 🙂

  • casual bb fan

    IMO Nets as he will have a familiar coach he can trust. Of course both offers must be as starter to be of any interest to him anyways.

  • Rick Johnson

    Seems like the Nets are clearing out the few talented players they have. I don’t understand, tanking won’t even help the as boston has their pick.

  • zxcvb

    Need cap space to go after Lin, Bazemore, Anderson, etc.. I was fine with Young, but he’s not ideal next to Lopez. Could use a better rebounder or stretch 4.

    Marks is also a Spurs guy. He may see an undervalued guy in the late 1st rd. Someone to develop.

  • grover chang

    I don’t see how Noel’s is much better then capela and Jones

  • casual bb fan

    IMO it’s water under the bridge as far as Hornets is concerned. He was there to help KW and has moved on. Haha

  • cdblue10

    Lakers will be a good team

  • Lin Dunn

    OK

  • ProLin

    Well with a good offer Lin might stay for THAT.

  • Lin Dunn

    They already have a starting PG.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO Hornets would have done that after the preseason games. Anyways a player of Lin’s caliber can start over most shooting guards in a 5 on 5 basketball game what more Lee. Haha

  • KHuang

    No they won’t.

    Luke Walton has to somehow convince his team of selfish defenseless players to play together.

  • KHuang

    Youth movement by the Nets, it seems.

  • KHuang

    Just another fantasy.

    Let it go.

  • casual bb fan

    You are right on this respect thingy for Lin’s case. Haha

  • KHuang

    Great post

  • cdblue10

    Unfortunately

  • KHuang

    He’s NOT, but any trade to dump the utterly useless Patrick Beverley is good even if the Rockets don’t want Lin.

  • KHuang

    I called it before the season ended.

    TOO MUCH RACISM

  • Rick Johnson
  • wandertheglobe

    Vertical Sources: Chicago and Minnesota talks for Jimmy Butler broke down. Bulls wanted Zach LaVine, not Ricky Rubio.

  • KHuang

    The Bulls should’ve just taken Rubio.

    Lavine can’t play!

  • Rick Johnson

    Hmm. Bulls looking for a PG to replace Rose.

  • casual bb fan

    With Butler Hornets doesn’t need Batum anymore. Anyways Batum helped KW to dig hugh holes most of the time when they are on the court together in the 1st quarter. Haha

  • sport

    Lavine can dunk and is popular with fans they’re looking for someone flashy enough to replace Rose. At least Wolves aren’t dumb enough to trade Lavine.

  • wandertheglobe

    Minny picks Chris Dunn. If they keep the pick, Rubio is gone.

  • cdblue10

    scrapped Minny for Lin they picked up Dunn

  • Ulysses Modder

    Rubio is Out!

  • Jamie

    Bulls FO looking dumber and dumber

  • sport

    I highly doubt Lin would tell anyone who he signs with other then his family. Close friends or not you don’t want news to leak out.

  • cdblue10

    Minny will be an elite team

  • Jamie

    LaVine can’t replace Rose
    he’s just not that good

  • casual bb fan

    IMO should the Bull trade Butler, the Bull is clearing house to get rid of all divas and closet divas to creat a new culture. Haha.

  • Jamie

    in a few years
    Russell-Ingram-Randle can be really, really good

  • Jamie

    LOLOLOLOL who offers Patrick Beverley
    That’s an insult to both the Sixers and Noel

  • sport

    Bulls are smart they are finally going into rebuild mode and clearing all divas out!

  • Jamie

    Buddy Hield is the best talent of this years draft
    He can really score well
    4 years in college is huge
    Good pick by the Pelicans

  • zxcvb

    Boston taking Jaylen Brown at #3 seems like a huge mistake. They need offense or a big man. Brown doesn’t seem to do anything well — just a raw athlete who impressed in workouts with orange cones.

  • KHuang

    No they won’t.

    Dunn is going to get badly schooled in the NBA, especially on defense and in physicality.

    The Wolves still don’t have adequate defense, and they’re not great at scoring. Thibodeau has his work cut out for him.

  • sport

    A healthy LaVine would certainly be better than an after injury Rose.

  • zxcvb

    People keep saying that, but they’re always awful. I love Towns, but no one else impresses me. They need a real PG and Wiggins needs to develop an outside shot and be more unselfish.

  • Jamie

    Boston needs a big but no one is ready yet so a raw talent to develop I guess

  • cdblue10

    LOL!!!!!!

  • zxcvb

    At least could have gone with Dragan Bender in that case. Raw big man talent.

  • Jamie

    Yah Wiggins and LaVine need to learn to share the ball
    KAT is the only star on that team and he’s still a rookie.

  • David Kim

    If rockets trade Bev who will be their starting PG?

  • cdblue10

    Do you really watch basketball?Just asking….

  • KHuang

    Lavine had his GAME OF HIS LIFE against Lin with the Lakers last season.

    He hit every shot with Lin in his face.

    Lavine has not had success against Lin since.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    We shall see…

  • zxcvb

    If I recall correctly, Morey has loved Rubio for a while.

  • KHuang

    Why do you think I’m a liar who knows absolutely nothing about the game?

    Just asking.

  • KHuang

    Actually, Lavine has no court instincts and no skills.

  • Jamie

    Yah I dont see it either
    He looks like a bust to me tbh

  • cdblue10

    A liar???You said that not me.

  • Jamie

    Hmm post injury Rose is a joke but LaVine is really not that good lol
    He can dunk but you play him against playoff teams
    He will choke so hard

  • grover chang

    Totally agree. Lin is out. Expect Lopez gone soon as well.

  • cdblue10

    They’re still young as a team but they will come together as the season goes by especially now that Rubio will be out of this franchise.

  • Jamie

    He is actually an expert
    He knows basketball really well

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    has anyone taken Xhou Qi yet? teams are gonna regret passing him up!!!

  • grover chang

    Morey is about numbers and names. Would not be surprised if he picks up rondo

  • KHuang

    So why do you think I don’t watch games?

    Just asking.

    You started this – and you’ll RUN.

  • KHuang

    I’m not sold on him.

  • vincent

    i’m shocked Lin has so many teams interested in him this year. Its really great to see how much his stock value went up. Thankfully Clifford praised him constantly even if he didn’t always treat Lin right. Lin played better in Houston, but Harden and Mchale tried to burry him. Look at his second year in Houston. hE started off averaging like 15 a game alongside harden.. crazy.. it wasnt talked about cuz harden and howard always got all the credit regardless.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    that’s ok KHuang, you thought Lamb had fundamentals LOL

  • cdblue10

    LOL!!!!I’m sorry you just lost me.

  • spiderman

    Bev even attacks free-throwers..
    can’t beat that

  • KHuang

    You go ahead and PRETEND that Lamb wasn’t #1 in Eastern Conference reserve guard scoring for most of the season and #6 in defensive +/- for ALL guards, then.

  • KHuang

    Lin averaged 15 ppg as a starter in LA too, but people HATED Lin and called that “underproducing”.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    this is where defensive stats are misleading

  • KHuang

    Run, troll, RUN.

  • Jamie

    He’s a good scorer but not sure about his defense

  • vincent

    lol that and Byron didn’t like it because it was anti tanking

  • KHuang

    Oh, I get it now.

    Ignore certain stats just to disagree with me.

    PRETEND the stats don’t exist, that’s what you do.

  • DX

    LA was tanking but Hornets made the playoff and almost pass the 1st round.

  • vincent

    so will it be Lin to the nets, rockets or hopefully San antonio?

  • KHuang

    Sometimes Lamb has lapses, but overall he is ONE OF THE BEST defenders in the NBA and that’s why Bench Force One was so DOMINANT.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Lin often has to direct where Lamb has to be on offense AND defense. Lamb isn’t all there. he got a lot of help from the 2nd unit’s team D

  • KHuang

    I’m doing “Rockets or bust”.

  • Jamie

    I didn’t see anything too wrong with his defence but people trashed his defence all over
    I feel like he can be more team minded

  • vincent

    do u think he and harden 2.0 could workout?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    there is nothing team minded about Lamb

  • KHuang

    Now THAT is a good post because it is totally accurate.

    Young talented fundamentally sound but INEXPERIENCED players like Lamb SHOULD be deferring to Lin’s elite leadership.

  • cdblue10

    TRoll….you’re the troll here and I don’t buy your basketball opinions as simply as that, saying that Lamb has good fundamentals…..LOL!!!!Sorry dude I’m not your fan.

  • KHuang

    The stats TOTALLY DEBUNK your hater analysis.

    You and Steve Clifford feel the same way about Lamb.

  • Jamie

    That’s why he needs to be more of it

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    everyone on the 2nd unit are fundamentally sound except Lamb LOL

  • KHuang

    Don’t get me wrong, Lamb gets burnt REGULARLY.

    But overall, he is one of the best defensive guards in the NBA and the numbers show it.

    Lin fans who focus myopically on Lin have a wildly inflated sense of what “good defense” is. Lin’s THE BEST defender in the NBA, so no player in the league is going to look as tenacious as Lin defensively.

  • KHuang

    Depends on what one means by “work out”.

    If it means playing to the max of their potential, PROBABLY NOT. I cannot see Harden playing off the ball, as Harden doesn’t seem to have off ball cutting skills and definitely is not in good enough shape to cut and screen off the ball.

    But if it means squeaking into the playoffs with entertaining ball, sure Lin and Harden can do that even if Harden dominates the ball and slows the Rockets to his typical crawl.

  • KHuang

    Totally disagree, and Lamb’s ELITE STATS prove you and Clifford to be totally WRONG.

  • Jamie

    Actually Only Lin
    HAwes was trash
    Kaminsky was too selfish

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i’ll give Lamb one thing and that’s his length and wingspan which works in his favor in one-on-one defense

  • KHuang

    You’re the dirty hate troll here.

    You’re the one firing insults and starting fights.

    You’ve hated me for months.

    You’re angry because I STATS PUNKED you and your boy Steve Clifford with Lamb.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Tank was alright earlier in the season but became self absorbed towards the end of the season

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    If anything, I think he relies on them too much.

    Don’t get me wrong, Lamb has A LOT of room for defensive improvement. But he’s not a sieve, he’s a STOPPER. And the numbers show it.

  • 22cents

    Ha Ha.

    Did we hear about this argument over and over for Lin? ^_^.

    Honestly, I am somewhat in agreement with KHuang. Lamb is a good player, especially along with Lin’s side. But I would not pick him up alone without Lin.

  • KHuang

    I wouldn’t pick up Lamb without Lin either!!!

  • Jamie

    The bucks are good
    They need a starting PG who can play make…
    Instant contender

  • KHuang

    Kaminsky was fundamentally sound but was not physically conditioned well enough for the NBA. He’ll be much better next season.

    Hawes is neither sound nor physically fit.

    Hansbrough was fit AND sound, but Clifford didn’t want him constantly dominating.

    Lamb was fit AND in shape, but when he got burnt he got BURNT. It’s still nowhere as bad as Walker or Batum getting burnt, though.

  • cdblue10

    We can back tracks our comments and people can review it and judge who’s the troll here.You’re the one that always has exaggerated and over the top comments not counting your unbelievable over the top opinions.

  • KHuang

    Agree.

    They just need a single veteran PG starter who can pull the team together and pull defenses to the perimeter.

    Lin would be ideal, but I doubt the Bucks want him.

  • Rick Johnson

    I thing SAS has a better culture, Rockets flaw is Harden, too selfish and lazy on defense. Nets are clearing out and starting from scratch.

  • Ulysses Modder

    ibaka in orlando

    Then Durant is out

  • Jamie

    I can see them compete with the Cavs but yah I dont think Kidd wants him

  • psalm234

    wow, Ibaka got traded to Orlando.
    Durant might leave OKC?
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746142657798344704

  • grover chang

    Sabonis son domontas sabonis picked by Orlando. I loved sabonis in Portland. Does anyone know if domontas is like his father, great center. If he played in his prime Portland could have won a championship.

  • zxcvb

    Ibaka’s prime is over, though. If anything, Durant would want an upgrade at PF — promote Kanter to starting PF.

    Ibaka is much older than his listed age.

  • Jamie

    Westbrook Oladipo Durant Kanter Adams + waitors new euro guy off the bench
    thats amazing lol

  • casual bb fan

    IMO Nets having Lin is the prerequisite for the org and the Nets FO priority to build a contender. Filling up the Nets Roster with team orientated decent players and make some noise in the 1st season. Then more talented FAs will choose Hornets. IMO Hornets will be Lin’s No1 destination this FA on mutual respect basis. Haha

  • Jamie

    hes with the thunder now

  • zxcvb

    Nets still look good. Not linked to any of these PG names being thrown around.

  • grover chang

    That was fast. If he is like his dad thunder made a good trade.

  • Jamie

    He’s a good big

  • zxcvb

    If only his dad could have played in the NBA when he was young!

  • Arsenium12 .

    They’re still talking. Marc Stein just tweeted this.

    Stein tweeted some minutes later : Discussion between the Bulls and Wolves have reached an advanced stage, sources say, with a real chance now for a Thibodeau/Butler reunion
    __________
    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/746142363702157312

  • zxcvb

    Great trade for OKC. Durant should be happy. Ilyasova is a capable stretch 4 as well.

  • zxcvb

    Kidd only wants PGs like himself. He’s probably pulling for Rubio.

  • PPP

    sixers are better team than the Bulls and Nets now in terms of starting and having chance to win, if Lin rejects MDA.

  • psalm234

    Orlando will send Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova and the rights to Sabonis to OKC for Ibaka, per source.
    that’s a lot to give up
    https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/746143661470126080

  • Lin Dunn

    Are we talking about Rondo or Rubio?

  • Rick Johnson

    So would Zach Levine go back to the bench? They just drafted a PG Dunn

  • PPP

    he prolly will be traded to the Bulls for Butler.

  • zxcvb

    Nets have cap space for good free agents. Give me a Nets lineup with: Lin, Bazemore, Ryan Anderson, Lopez. Playing with too many rookies and sophs can be a problem.

  • PPP

    Lin is right, he has to wait until the drafts and the trades settle down before he can make any decision.

  • blueCypher

    76ers are making Ben Simmons point-forward, that means his usage rate will be Lebron-like.

  • casual bb fan

    Bravo! great post. Now you are getting it that a player of Lin’s caliber and being versatile can start on any team in the NBA in a 5 on 5 basketball game not withstanding those team having so-called superstars point guards or shooting guards alike. Haha

  • PPP

    i believe in todays nba, you need two ball handlers to be effective.

  • Rick Johnson

    Kind of like Draymond.

  • exel

    You know Ibaka is only 26. He’s only starting his prime. Really bad trade for OKC and probably a sign that OKC know Durant is gone.

  • Jamie

    good trade for both actually

  • Jamie

    Ibaka has been a disappointment for the past 2 years

  • blueCypher

    Interesting OKC trade

  • heart

    So many international players have been drafted. It’s astounding to me that Lin is still the only recognizable un-drafted AA NBA player in the league.

  • blueCypher

    What about that Zhou Qi player from China

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Without MDA Sixers no more a destination for Lin. Not this FA anyways. Let the Simmons being point forward like a Lebron play out first for these one or two years. Most NBA scouting reports were on the wrong side of history more often than not anyways. Haha

  • cdblue10

    Kris Dunn is the best PG in the draft

  • blueCypher

    Apparently he might be in a trade deal involving Butler

  • Ben Johnson

    Any teams on the radar that we haven’t discussed that could throw out a dual pg offense with join next to another pg?

  • cdblue10

    Good trade either way but Bulls would be in the losing end for now.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    nets are “tanking” not for draft picks as they have none, but they are cashing in their chips. thad traded for a 1st and i expect brook trade at the deadline or next summer. nets have to be off of lin’s list. this team is going to be young and very bad… no chance for playoffs now without thad…

    belinelli trade also interesting. he’s either a replacement for lee and they are gunning to resign lin. or they are not expecting lin back and moving on with a win now kinda player…

    houston still the darkhorse. having played with harden, lin may be the only guy with the guts to go there after ty lawson cemented harden as a pg killer…

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Zach, in my opinion, is more of a slashing/driving shooting guard…He does have great ball-handling skills, but lacks point-guard instinct that creates easy shots for his teammates.

    So Wolves can still keep Zach and play Dun at PG, Zach at SG and Wiggings at small forward.

  • zxcvb

    1) Wait till free agency. They can add Lin, Bazemore, Anderson and others.
    2) Most important thing is for Lin to be a true starting PG. Rings can wait.
    3) East is weak. Lin, Lopez and a coach who supports him will get any team into the playoffs.

  • Guest

    The rockets had given Lin the best contract so far. They might do it again.

  • zxcvb

    I agree. Weak draft for PGs though.

  • Ben Johnson

    Agreed, Nets may be looking for a stretch 4 to compliment a lopez-jlin PnR

  • zxcvb

    Yeah, I was fine with Young (Lin can work with anyone who buys in), but a stretch 4 would be a much better fit. Or at least a scrappy rebounder/defender.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    While I don’t like Thad Young on the same team as Lin because he’s more of a old-school PF, I do agree that Lin should be a bit worried about joining the Nets.

    Although they can replace Thad by signing Anderson who is more of a stretch 4 or even Marvin Williams..If the Nets does that, that could regain confidence in some players that they will try to win.

    I also agree that Houston Rockets has now moved up to be one of Lin’s top suitors…Maybe the Bulls could be up there if they don’t draft a PG but they may also be rebuilding too.

  • grover chang

    Bulls feel very dysfunctional. Classless handling of thibs firing. Trying to trade Butler. Why? He is young and good. Does not sound like a good organization.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    butler in trade talks after dealing rose? bulls in full tank mode. they lose pau and noah too… DO NOT WANT!

  • cdblue10

    Yep….but if Wolves won’t trade him he will definitely help their roster.

  • Jamie

    It’s not that easy anymore
    East is getting competitive
    They still need good supporting cast to make the playoffs
    not just a bunch of scrubs

  • InfiniteWisdom

    1.) that’s not enough. baze is not proven. he started very hot and cooled down as season went on. anderson is garbage. just a catch and shoot stretch 4. not dynamic at all. thad was a 15/9 dynamic 4. he wouldve been the recipient of soooo many oops from lin…. sigh
    2.) rings can wait, but he needs to make the playoffs at least. 27 isnt old but it’s also not young… nets rebuilding….
    3.) east was very competitive. will still be competitive. pacers made great moves. lin and lopez + scrubs or semi-stars? not enough. 1st round exit at best.

    im greedy, i want more. i feel lin wants more. nets looking worse and worse with each move so far… nets draft a SG. still hope for lin but im weary….

  • cdblue10

    Nets pick for #20

  • zxcvb
  • psalm234

    Interesting, the Nets used their 20th pick from Pacers to draft Caris LeVert (SG) who had 2 surgeries in the past 2 yrs
    https://twitter.com/TheVertical/status/746158000201662464

  • heart

    The commentators said Caris LeVert has had two foot surgery… .

  • I am The Jason

    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746157699109359616

    A SG with injuries already. I guess its better than no pick

  • zxcvb

    Seems to be a long, versatile guy who can shoot but has major injury problems.

    I guess Marks is gambling. Roll the dice, develop over a couple years.

  • grover chang

    Top ten with no injuries

  • casual bb fan

    Alas Hinkie not in Sixers to receive junkyard dog Beverley ‘the best defender in Morey’s analytics junk from Morey. LOL. Haha

  • zxcvb

    Late first round you gotta gamble. No immediate impact guys, so you take a chance on talent.

    I always like versatile players. Guys who can play PG/SG (like Lin), SG/SF, SF/PF, PF/C. That’s the direction of the NBA now. Multiple positions, interchangeable skills.

  • cdblue10

    I’m positive that Marks and his group knew this thing before they drafted him.His doctor was the same MD who operated on Durant’s foot.

  • cdblue10

    Agreed

  • Jamie

    So this guy for thad young hmmm very questionable choice

  • Ben Johnson

    Get over it, young is good but does not fit well in a dynamic run and gun offense featuring heavy half court sets of a Jlin – lopez PnR

  • cdblue10

    Marks were shedding out on cap space to go for FA comes July 1st,he is just the toppings.

  • casual bb fan

    You mean as a dump together with Beverley? May not be enough, Morey needs to include a 1st round pick. LOL Haha

  • Jamie

    And this guy does? He’s a rookie. Won’t be much of use.
    That’s still a questionable decison. Doesnt seem like they are trying to win and they had told thad they weren’t trading him but did anyways. I thought people were done with lying FO

  • Jamie

    Hope that’s the case

  • zxcvb

    Levert isn’t going to be starting. Or playing PF. He’s a SG from what I’ve seen.

    And they never told Young he won’t be traded. Misreported. Like Lin “accepting a discount to stay in Charlotte.”

  • casual bb dan

    Can’t blame Nathan 100% knowing that Jack sauce is in fact dim sum sauce. LOL Haha

  • Jamie

    Of course he’s not gonna play PF hes a guard. He might as well start they dont have any capable SG anyways. Thad Young was at least a starter level PF. It is what it is.
    Coach also told him he was in his plan so yah.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol, you can be crazy at times but I also think Lin probably will play in Houston. A MDA Lin chat in the presence of Morey and Les will do the trick. Atkinson saying Nets need to be lucky this time to sign the quarterback of his choice is the game there. Haha

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I always thought it was weird to promise Thad Young that he wouldn’t be traded….I’ve always felt that it was wrong to make such a promise to a player like thad because he’s way too old-school for a PF.

    But the worst thing is that the Nets lied to him..They made him think he would be part of the core alongside Brooks Lopez and they now trade him….That’s not a good look for the Nets, Marks and Atkinson.

    If they can lie to Thad, they can also lie to Lin,..They can tell Lin he will be part of the core and than look to move him this summer or remove him out of the starting unit after 15 games.

  • Jamie

    Exactly. The Nets FO has never been known for being loyal or competent.

  • zxcvb

    You thought this guy would replace Young. I’m saying that’s not true.

    I don’t recall Atkinson saying that. He’s not the GM either way.

  • Jamie

    Nope, that’s just your misinterpretation. They traded Thad Young for this guy pretty much.
    You dont have to trade for the guy to play in the same position as the guy you just traded away.

  • zxcvb

    That’s what I was trying to tell you. You seemed confused replying to Ben.

    “Get over it, young is good but does not fit well in a dynamic run and gun offense featuring heavy half court sets of a Jlin – lopez PnR”

    “And this guy does? He’s a rookie. Won’t be much of use.”

    Not there to replace Young. Clear cap room. Get the best talent at any position.

  • TVN

    Nets traded Young to clear more cap space. Not sure why anyone would be tripping about this. He doesn’t fit what Atkinson wants out of a PF.

  • Jamie

    Yah will this guy be a good fit to the dynamic run and gun offence?
    He’s still part of the team last I checked so I assume he would be involved in the offence unless you are saying only PF will be featured in this dynamic run and gun offence? LOL

  • zxcvb

    Probably a bench player playing 15mpg, doesn’t have to play with the run-and-gun starters. Also, his two big skills are catch-and-shoot 3s and unselfish passing. Sounds good to me in a dynamic offense.

  • zxcvb

    Agree. I keep reading posts lately worried that Lin won’t have enough talent to work with on the Nets. Some are probably worried that trading Young makes the Nets too low on talent…

    Yawn. Free agency awaits and Lin as a true PG + a decent big man can make anything work.

  • casual bb fan

    Great post. With this latest clarification and explanation Sws94 can finally be left alone with his misconceived justification to ‘bencing’ Lin whenever he find the slightest opportunity to post as such. Haha

  • DrewBear2

    Rebuilding is accurate, but not tanking. Atkinson & Marks want to build a Spurs-like culture of discipline and focused, continued effort…no quitting. You can’t do that while intentionally trying to lose games. Besides, as others have often pointed out, it serves them no purpose to tank since they’ve traded their 1st round picks a few years out.

  • casual bb fan

    Great post. You hit the nail right on the head there. Wouldn’t be surprised if sws84 has other misconceived ideas to justify ‘bencing’ Lin. Haha

  • Briiick

    A lot of fans were worried about Young’s post game not a good fit for Lin’s game a while ago, LOL.

  • casual bb fan

    Good observations on some of the many shortcomings of Harden. Haha

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t know why NYK didn’t pick Rondo bc Melo likes him?

    https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/746174157679923200

  • vincent

    seems like Lin to San antonio won’t happen anymore

  • DrewBear2

    Here’s the full quote of Marks’ comments:

    “I’m certainly not looking to trade them,” Marks said. “But again, you have to be fluid. You never know what will come your way. I hope they are a part of us. … I have to maximize their talent and build around them. We have to wait and see.”

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15566924/brooklyn-nets-hiring-kenny-atkinson-coach-part-direction-shift-gm-says

  • DrewBear2

    Marks was hired in February, Atkinson in May 2016. They have no track record to judge one way or the other at this point.

  • casual bb fan

    Well he picked Mavs off the bat but something weird happened and the rest is history.

  • casual bb fan

    Good observation. Morey could well be the stumbling block for the return of Lin to Houston. Haha

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Zhou Qi passed up in round 1 is a travesty

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Nets are getting younger without Young. Haha

  • Rick Johnson
  • Rick Johnson

    He can’t even play until 2017. Has to finish his contract with Chinese team.

  • casual bb fan

    You meant the other 28 teams. 🙂 haha

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    didn’t he got out of the contract?

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. IMO he may have vested interest in NYC. Haha

  • cshot

    spurs, rockets, or mavs seem to be the only options left. and chicago if they keep butler

  • cshot

    he seems to be available according to the nba site

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Zhou Qi falls to the lowly Rockets! BOOO!! BOO!!
    rockets are KILLING me

  • CJSHYY

    Rox really likes China players$$$

  • Jamie

    russian owner

  • HVJoy

    Rondo likes Nets? Oh. Boy.
    Hope the affection is not mutual.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    now i’m torn between wanting Lin to play for the rockets or not cus they have Qi and MDA

  • Jamie

    cool bye nets

  • cshot

    i freaking knew the rockets would get zhou qi haha. i guess they’re hoping hes the next yao haha

  • sws94

    We don’t know everything about what options Lin has. It’s trade time, not FA time yet. We must remain patient, not all information is in yet.

  • Jamie

    LOL the Rockets drafted the Chinese kid
    I see you, Les!!!

  • ProLin

    Les likes China money.

  • CJSHYY

    I thought Zhou Qi is not their target? So now Rox picked him bc Lin will come or not?

  • casual bb fan

    IMO Nets should take the dump + 1st round pick from Suns for Young. Getting Lin is a lucky shot for Nets as Rockets with MDA is the main competition. Nets can trade the dump if they are lucky enough to get Lin. Haha

  • devin23

    Marketing…

  • blueCypher

    LOL, Les at it again.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    lol Nets aren’t interested in no Rondo

  • sws94

    Their pick has to do with whatever reason you’d pick a player at this stage of the draft. He filled a need on their team or they think he can develop something that helps them in the future.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t know anything about Zhou Qi but I think Rox picked him more for China’s market$$$

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Zhou Qi will be a really good NBA player but i also doubt the rocket’s scout realized it when they picked him for the Chinese $$ LOL

  • HVJoy

    Lin will not go, so Rox selected Zhou to attract Chinese sponsors/investors?

  • casual bb fan

    IMO the Suns is looking to dump one of their point guards or both with a 1st round pick thrown in as sweetener. Haha

  • CJSHYY

    I hope this is the reason. Haha!

  • james brown

    agree and for all we know, jeremy already chosen a team though he said he was waiting for the result of the draft to make sure his decision is going to be his final destination.(reference- taiwan visit)

  • CJSHYY
  • james brown

    this maybe was a consideration…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    so are the rockets since they’re trying to dump Bev

  • james brown

    but reading his exact quote (if it was really his), he did made a generalization on the two players mentioned, but i don’t see finality..therefore, their loyalty was still not set on stone till its all over (IMO)

  • vincent

    looks like nets still want lin lol. just traded marcus paige

  • CJSHYY

    I know, they want Lin from hired MDA as HC can tell….

  • james brown

    if they dump Bev, Lin will surely be part of their plan.

  • CJSHYY
  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    if they make an offer, i hope he throws it back in their face!

  • psalm234

    So is it a 3-way race by Nets, Bulls, Rockets to win Linsanity as a starting PG?

  • HVJoy

    What’s the secret sauce that you both share? 🙂

    This is the 1st I heard about Bev-dumping.

  • CJSHYY
  • PPP

    don’t count out the mavs and bucks yet…………

  • james brown

    my GUT feeling..LOL!!! its more saucy than other sauce for sure…joke!

  • james brown

    and the winner is……….!

  • PPP

    I would keep that 60-80 million usd…you kidding me. haha.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s likely to be Rox. smh!

  • PPP

    THE HORNETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smh.

  • Whitman Lam

    And trade him to Houston so Les can grab more China money.

  • sws94

    I don’t either. I don’t know why they picked him but maybe he’s a good player or one with potential.

  • CJSHYY

    Rox already got one from China.

  • zxcvb

    Not that it matters (2nd rd guy) but that was picked for the Jazz. Brooklyn got SG Isaiah Whitehead.
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746182814589149185

  • wandertheglobe

    Lin will come to be the translator for Qi….lol.

  • Lin Dunn

    What does the Nets get for trading him to Utah?

  • CJSHYY
  • Rick James

    first mda, now zhou qi, gotta give rockets credit though, they really seem to be pushing hard for lin

  • Rick Johnson

    He has to play another season in China per his contract. I wonder if the Rockets can put him in a Rockets uniform for the Global Games in China this preseason. Would be good from a marketing perspective.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lin will learn to speak Chinese from Qi

  • Lin Dunn

    Great, Rox gets a PG and 76ers do not agree with the Patrick Beveley deal, so PB stays and there is no need for Rox to try to get Lin.

  • Martin Chong

    No~~~he likes Lin, he really do!

  • Whitman Lam

    More salary cap space.

  • CJSHYY

    I doubt both can run MDA system well. Plus there’s still lots of time to trade PB.

  • ProLin

    I think she’s a Knicks fan by the the looks of things.

  • Whitman Lam

    They can have 2 Chinese players in case 1 breaks down.They look the same to Morey anyway.

  • ProLin

    NBA really digs pedigree.

  • Whitman Lam

    Rox think all point guards are interchangeable. Bye Beverley, you got replaced by someone cheaper, aka, you got Moreyed.

  • ProLin

    They need a backup anyway. Doesn’t mean much for Lin situation. Only means they’re probably going to spend money to get FA forwards/centers.

  • CJSHYY

    True, Morey always wants to pay cheap only.

  • ProLin

    How is this guy?

  • DX

    Zhou Qi has ended the contract. He can play this coming season.

  • ProLin

    Even having Paige doesn’t mean they won’t want Lin. No one’s gonna let rookie PG be starter over Lin unless they’re Lakers or the Rockets.

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Oh! So he will show up for preseason game then….

  • ProLin

    I really think the Nets has already won and we’re just waiting for July 1st formality.

  • CJSHYY
  • ProLin

    I think it’s more Rondo is interested in returning to the Northeast.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. In Lin case playing with a bunch of NBA scrubs will do just fine. He has been there and done that already with amazing results. Haha

  • ProLin

    Just 500K to free up 6.2 mil in cap space. I’d do it if I want a few max players.

  • Lin Dunn

    SMH, Rox cut Lin on Christmas first time, dumped him to LA second time and now they want him to run MDA offense + do the job of Patrick Beverley to cover JH’s D. If Lin goes to Rox, I think I will need group therapy.

  • ProLin

    Only China centers will be drafted.

  • DX
  • Rick Johnson

    Unless something more recent this is the last I heard:

    http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/zhou-qi-reaches-buyout-agreement-can-join-nba-in-2017/

    Zhou reached a buyout agreement Friday with his Chinese club, the Xinjiang Flying Tigers, and will be eligible to play in the NBA beginning in the 2017-18 season, Jonathan Givony of Yahoo! Sports reports.

  • CJSHYY

    They still need to pay DW 5M I think… Hard to say what Nets owner will do….

  • vincent

    never say never lol nothing surprises me anymore.. I.E benching of Jeremy Lin in game 7 vs Miami after he was the reason they were still in the series to begin with. Although knowing Atkninson is the Nets head coach and has a well established relationship with Lin does give me much hope.

  • zxcvb

    Need to decide between waiving him and trading him to another team (who will waive him). Trading him could get them a pick from a desperate team trying to get under the cap before free agency.

  • Martin Chong

    Disagree. No fortune cookies are the same! I’m offended!

  • DX

    After drafted, China Sina news said Morey has confirmed.

  • vincent

    come on Brook-Lin! or san antonio but they have murray now ;(

  • james brown

    clarkson’s look-alike? LOL!

  • psalm234

    Sean Marks wants to find the “right” people, not just spend money

    He actually just got $10M more to spend on FAs by trading Young
    https://twitter.com/mazzespn/status/746198223451131905

    https://twitter.com/netsdaily/status/746197507043004416

  • zxcvb

    Well, late firsts and seconds aren’t going to start (may not even make the rotation), but SAS is a Plan C/D.

  • Rick James

    im becoming intrigued by the 76ers too. Ben simmons might be an amazing player in the future, and having Lin run the team sounds good to me.

  • zxcvb

    http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/bkn

    Nets GM Sean Marks on having a ton of cap space but being in a
    rebuilding situation: “It’s not going out there and spending money just
    for the sake of spending it. We’ll hopefully make the right decisions
    and it starts with bringing in high character people.” Marks reiterates
    that Nets “aren’t going to skip steps along the way.” “I think we’ll get
    the right people and we’ll get people that want to come here,” he
    added.

  • james brown

    get lin by hook or by crook…! so to speak..LOL!!!?

  • Rick Johnson

    So he’s available immediately? Needs to put on some muscle. Will be good marketing for Les though going to China and if he can join the team in a jersey.

  • james brown

    meaning, they finalized talks with lin and now talking on how to make it more competitive by JLIN’s definition (MY thoughts for the sause!!!)

  • zxcvb

    At the very least it means: NO RONDO. Exact opposite of a high character, Spurs culture player.

  • DX

    Yes, Rockets has signed a special trainer for Zhou.

  • CJSHYY

    Why no Rondo?

  • james brown

    undecided meaning, need some secure back up for JLIN and waiting for Jack to accept it! (my own opinion)

  • Lin Dunn

    Isiah W is supposed to be a combo guard with a quick first step.

  • zxcvb

    One of the lowest character guys in the league. Even when his stock was high. Rick Carlisle and Mavs hated him. Boston and Doc hated him. Well-known cancer to his team.

  • james brown

    rondo wants to be paired with LIN.. but LIN said NO! LOL!!!!joke

  • zxcvb

    Dude just wants to get paid one last time, so he’s throwing out Knicks and Nets. But neither one wants him.

  • DrewBear2

    So far both Marks and Atkinson have been consistent in hammering home the “high character” tentpole.

  • james brown

    he will be without team if he will insist on his price..sixers might be interested if they can’t get a good one?

  • Lin Dunn

    He is also interested in staying with Kings. Collison will have some difficulties b/c of domestic violence and DUI charges that means the Kings may be more willing to pay Rondo.

  • james brown

    and who is the player of highest “HIGH Character again?”

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    james harden

  • CJSHYY
  • vincent

    I hope Lin doesn’t make the same mistake as last time ( even though it turned out okay for him) and wait too long to sign somewhere and be unable to land a starting gig. Im a firm believer had Lin played for Dallas, he would have surely had a career year last season

  • psalm234

    yes, Sean Marks wants to recreate the Spurs culture in the Nets
    Pop wouldn’t touch Rondo, especially on a new team w/o strong stars w/ good characters

  • zxcvb

    He’s “interested” in anywhere he can get PAID. No one wants to go to the Kings if they have other options, so Rondo may come back after all.

  • psalm234

    lol .. maybe the 1st part 🙂

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    what happened in the draft that made him change his mind?

  • zxcvb

    No control last year with the whole Deandre Jordan situation.

    Lin made the right move — one year deal, rehabbed his reputation, get PAID this summer with the rising cap.

  • zxcvb

    1) Lin’s agents would be smart to make him seem “not so sure” (make 2-3 teams bid).
    2) Bev trade rumors maybe? Might make Houston seem more “apologetic.”

  • Lin Dunn

    What happened to 99 percent sure that Lin will go to Nets?

  • CJSHYY

    I think we will hear his good news soon this year.

  • CJSHYY

    I don’t know… sounds like not sure now.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the 1 percenters hold all the $$

  • DrewBear2

    Big time backpedaling.

  • DrewBear2

    Yup, Jeremy was collateral damage last year.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Should Rondo ended up without a team wanting his service it will be good for the league as a whole. Its will be a good 1st step towards culture change for most franchises to have good character guys and going away from a diva infested league. Haha

  • Lin Dunn

    Houston with or without Beverley is still toxic. They dumped Lin twice. Even if they are more apologetic, Lin will still have to play MDA offense and play enough D to cover JH and himself. Whatever happen to “happiness” is priority. OH NO don’t tell me he will return to CHA

  • CJSHYY

    I am more concern about Jack’s contract…. they probably didn’t want to pay so much money on PG position. (Jack + DW + Lin?)

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Jack isn’t being paid that much and he’s a backup at best. and Atkinson has said the point guard position is the most important piece which he intends to upgrade

  • Lin Dunn

    They only owe Jack 0.5 mil, DW doesn’t cost much, and Lin’s priority is not money, of course they still have to pay Lin the fair value.

  • DrewBear2

    I’d be very happy if Jeremy joined a rebuilding Nets team. But it takes years to build the kind of culture that the Spurs already have.

  • CJSHYY

    But his boss probably think different…. Atkinson is not the one who is going to write the check…

  • zxcvb

    They don’t have to pay Jack. They can waive Jack’s contract (team option). Only 500K guaranteed. Marks is waiting because they might be able to trade Jack as cap relief before free agency.

  • zxcvb

    I agree! But I’m just speaking as “devil’s advocate.”

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    from what i’ve read or heard, Atkinson and Marks is on the same page. they’re both high character guys who’s first name aren’t “james”

  • wandertheglobe

    Ty Lawson.

  • CJSHYY
  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    “all Lin”… it seem they wrote this with Lin in mind
    “spending and Linning”.. and Marks was probably thinking Lin, too
    “D-League”… who is the biggest D-League success story??

  • DX
  • aras

    Lin to the Bulls or The rockets calling it right now your faces when im right hah priceless!

  • ProLin

    it sounds like they are not interested in tanking next year but will try to play to win, so that’s good for Lin.

  • ProLin

    I think someone, maybe the Rockets, has made JLin a huge offer, which made Net’s offer questionable. But I think as long as it’s respectable, like 12-15 mil, Lin will pick Nets no doubt.

  • ProLin

    that guy probably didn’t think Lin would get better offer elsewhere.

  • zxcvb

    That’s why you bring in Lin and Bazemore. They already know and trust Atkinson (and vice versa). Good short cut to a positive culture.

  • Rick Johnson

    Schmeelk: Knicks Made A Mistake Trading For Derrick Rose

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/23/knicks-mistake-derrick-rose-trade/

    “In effect, the Knicks traded two valuable assets in Lopez and Jerian Grant that they had under their control for a chance to make the playoffs (not win a title) for one season. Is either player an All-Star? No. But Lopez is a solid starting center that the Knicks would have controlled for three years, whose contract will look very reasonable after the next two free agent periods.”

  • Lin Dunn

    If Butler is traded, who will be with Lin at the Bulls backcourt? I am not against Lin going to Bulls.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Nets are still the front runner for Lin’s service with Rockets close behind. Rockets will leapfrog Nets if they can find a team dumb enough to take Harden in a trade. Haha.

  • zxcvb

    I would hate a Rockets return no matter what Les did. If I were Lin, I wouldn’t even consider it unless there were zero other chances to start AND Morey were fired. But that’s just me. I’m sure Lin will make the right move…he knows best obviously.

  • aras

    No way butler is traded they are going to build around him imo Lin is a good fit with butler.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the number 1 reason i want Lin to join the Bulls is the backcourt pairing with Butler. but i’m still alright with him starting for them even if Butler gets traded

  • aras

    rather the rockets than another year at charlotte IMO. he will get less minutes

  • zxcvb

    True, but I’d rather have him be 6th man on the Spurs (with a chance to start next year) than return to the Rockets. Just a cesspool of a franchise, from the front office to the locker room to the fans and media.

  • Lin Dunn

    So it is just rumors?

  • aras

    that i would take aswell. but choosing between charlotte being a bench player or rockets to start? no brainer i’ll pick the rockets. screw clutchfans who cares about those idiots. Lin was good in that team and probably the only pointguard who worked with harden. i dont count beverly.

  • aras

    every rumour starts from somewhere so maybe it is maybe it is not. we’ll see, but if bulls trade him they are officially in rebuild mode.

  • ProLin

    Dolan just shrugs. Knicks is just his favorite toy.

  • zxcvb

    I agree with that. Also, Lin has become a much better off-ball player. Even as SG, he averaged 18p/5a/4r on 46/46/83 shooting as a starter this past year.

  • ProLin

    Morey will not trade Harden. Les would have to fire Morey first, then Lin might bite.

  • aras

    yup good thing about that is people are talking about it how much he is averaging when he was starting. One more chance is all he needs if he gets it it’s all on him

  • zxcvb

    I agree with trolls on one point. Lin is just a mediocre backup…but he’s an ELITE starter. Whenever he starts (or is used like a starter), he’s All-Star caliber.

  • ProLin

    a rookie. Not proven in the NBA. They are not going to start him unless Nets is in Lakers style tanking mode.

  • zxcvb

    Knicks are a disaster area. This Rose trade is so pathetic, it’s hilarious. The racist troll who visits this site and the other one is a Knicks fan…so I can understand his recent depression.

  • psalm234

    The #Linning commitment!

  • MorlockO

    would love them to take dwight and lin…

  • casual bb fan

    IMO I wouldn’t be surprised if Morey has been instructed to trade Harden to the highest bidder and Morey ego is holding him back.
    One more thing, seemingly the NBA FOs are heading towards a culture change of looking for high character guys. Only the old school type corrupted by the overrated analytics and dumb owners are collecting divas and over the hill so-called superstars. Haha.

  • CJSHYY

    Dolan is dumb as usual. I don’t think Rose & Melo can get along well. Plus why pay one year rental player w such high price??? smh!

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Very cute and apt response to ‘troll’ on that one. Haha

  • aras

    Btw Hornets got Belinelli which means Lee is probably gone. Lin is still maybe maybe not. Maybe Lin goes and not Lee

  • sws94

    Hornets boards think Lin may be back with cap room cleared and Belinelli signing more means Lee gone, not Lin. But who really knows. Stuff is still in flux in a big, big way. And the decision is Lin’s.

  • aras

    Might work Belinelli has been terrible. Lin Playing backup at Pg and SG? Lin is better than belinelli if Lee is gone Lin should start and belinelli backup.

  • hchao

    Apparently Nets traded Thaddeus hoping for a better replacement in FA. This Nathan guy a couple of days ago still swore on his prediction and “insider source” of Lin going to Nets. Now he’s betraying his “insider source”:

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/746180633928531968

    https://twitter.com/zukovka/status/746173032939528192

  • MorlockO

    Agree, 2nd round PGs are a hit and miss, most of the time a miss in draft… they need a high level learning curve and most likely wont contribute until 2nd season… they just need to fill in positions for practice time… cheaply paid with great contract… need will spend money on FA bigs (dwight, noah, nene, ryan anderson, etc.)

  • bolero

    Funny how grant said before that he’s going to start according to Melo. lol

  • sws94

    Hate the word backup. If Lin is going to play anywhere off the bench it will be high-usage 6th man and hopefully closer for a good amount of games. He needs to come in, know his role, and never worry about playing time because it is fairly consistent in a say 25-32 MPG range. Otherwise, it is a waste of his skills.

    I don’t like Cliff being so enamored to Batum. Batum lacks real heart IMO., Kemba has heart IMO, but not Batum so much who is Cliff’s darling.

  • TVN

    Well, he WAS a backup this past season. He didn’t even get 20 minutes in the final game. His playing time was determined by how well he shot the ball in his first few minutes on the floor. He was not used as a “6th Man.”

  • aras

    Spurs would have been great for Lin IMO great system with a great coach. We’ll see what happens. Lin is important for the hornets team. Now even more if Lee is gone. LAmb has been real shaky. Belinelli has been a disaster this season. Lin has been real good as a backup but even better as a starter. If he stays i really hope Cliff gives him the minutes he deserves. I swear if i see belinelli getting more than 25 min a game im going crazy next season.

  • sws94

    No, it’s not. He was a 6MOY candidate. He played with Kemba, and closed many games throughout the season, so he didn’t “backup” Kemba. I would have liked to see more usage but LIn met the requirement for 6th man. There’s nothing delusional about it and that’s all I’ll say on this matter.,

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Belinelli will be the back-up shooting guard so he won’t be starting for Charlotte since MKG will be back and be the starter.

    M guess is Charlotte had to get a SG since Lee will probably look for money and is probably not interested in coming off the bench..so that move makes sense for Charlotte and it may not mean that they know Lin will be back if they can clear enough cap room for him.

    My guess is Hornets will only offer Lin somewhere between 5-7 mill and I will hope Lin will not take that.

  • sws94

    They are shopping Lamb.

    If Cliff looked to give Lin more involvement and less to Batum, I’d go Lin is happy in Charlotte, it’s good to play 2 years in the same system, it’s a reasonably nice environment to play in, but this whole Batum is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel thing is a bit much with Cliff. Belinelli has lost whatever magic he had as a Spur.

    Lin as a Spur, I don’t know. Don’t really hear any buzz around that.

  • psalm234

    Thoughts on JLin and the Nets after the 2016 NBA Draft

    Somehow I got a good feeling on these Sean Marks moves:
    – $10+M to increase to $45M spending money so they can overpay FAs to come
    – part with Thaddeus Young well (he thanked the Nets so it’s not a surprise) who doesn’t fit their plan
    – low profile in not having rumors to trade for QBs (probably to set sight to acquire PG via FA) unlike Dallas who prioritizes Conley
    – draft 2 SGs who might provide reward in 2-3 years. They also need good mentors with “high character” like JLin

    So Sean Marks said the Nets is ready to spend money on the “right” people.
    BUT they would still need to convince JLin that they’re in the “quick rebuilding” mode by recruiting the right FAs.
    How will they spend the $55+M?

    Kenny Atkinson “The Quarterback Guru” and Sean Marks have to convince JLin that he can surround him+Lopez with the right FAs to have any real chance in the playoff. Sign Horford, Bazemore who raved about Kenny’s mastery of PNR in ATL?
    Or even Dwight Howard? If yes, the Nets can reach the playoff in 2016-17 season

    Backup Plans
    1. CHI Bulls
    But if not, JLin is better off to see if the Bulls have high interest to pair him with Butler in a fast-paced Hoiberg system so the playoff chance is higher.

    2. HOU Rockets
    Or would Lin need to resort to gamble with MDA, Harden in HOU and risking not having the ball in his hands to be frozen out by the MVP of Shaqtin’ Fool, James Harden, who is the opposite of a “humble teammate”. Lin must have known how Nash unsuccessfully played with Kobe in LA even in the MDA system before his injuries.

  • aras

    aaah yeah damn forgot about MKG…he was injured the whole season kinda….so then yeah Lin wont sniff a starting job there

  • sws94

    No, Cliff cemented Lin’s role is off the bench.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    in what article did you read that Grant stated he’s good enough to start?…Grant had nice final week of the season, but that’s only because most team were either resting players for the playoff run or teams were shutting down their stars players because there weren’t much to play for….Guys like Cousin, Rondo and Brook Lopez did not play the final 2 week of the season.

    Grant, at the moment, should concentrate on become a good 6th man..once he accomplished that, he can concentrate on become a starting PG.

  • aras

    Forgot about MKG…so lin wont play much either way to be honest…i think they got Belinelli because he’s not all that wont play much prob 20 min maybe….Lin will prob leave as will lamb probably.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Lin wouldn’t be back even if Hornets offer him max to backup KW. Heck he even would be back as starting shooting guard if KW is the point guard playing ISO ball instead of team ball. Haha

  • aras

    yup…meh charlotte team wont be this good next season not with other teams improving….they overachieved this season.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I agree here…I find it hard to believe they would trade both, Rose and Butler….They have to keep 1 and re-build around him…I’m sure the Bulls aren’t ready for a full rebuilding process.

  • sws94

    See, none of that is set in stone. MKG pushes the pace. If MKG and Lin proved to be a good pairing, who is to say Lin wouldn’t play more? Cliff knows what Lin can do. I see Lin at more than 20 minutes with MKG playing actually. I see Batum missing games again. I’m not sure MKG will make it through the season. But, it’s just will I play, won’t I play again. Time for Lin not to have to deal with that. When he plays, he helps teams win. I hope some fairly middling to contending team gets that.

    And no, I’m not into the Nets. Unless some huge change is made on that team, it’s one of the dullest teams I’ve watched last season. Coach/GM, maybe good, but Lin plays with players, not coaches and GMs.

  • sws94

    I can’t say that either. I actually like Charlotte, they had an interesting mix of skill sets. It’s just the integration and involvement of Lin was too low. But there were good guys on that team and it seemed like a good, healthy team environment that rooted for one another. And I think Lin hopes to get some of that on his next team.

  • aras

    True it’s not set in stone…but thats not a chance i’d be willing to take. that MKG might get injured and BAtum might miss some games. Lin already showed he was paired good with MKG and had good numbers as a starter. I see Lin playing 25 min max if he is not having a hot shooting game or something. Cliff cementing Lin is off the bench..lol yeah Lin is prob gone.

  • DX

    Will be happy as long as Lin plays as starter.

  • aras

    Charlotte had great team chemistry really. But other teams are improving making deals…h*** knicks are making moves. Charlotte will prob contend for the 8th spot

  • sws94

    He didn’t backup KW. He played with him. We complained that KW needed to sit so Lin could play PG. Lin would play off the bench, in whatever role he played. But it wasn’t really backing up KW as KW didn’t sit much while Lin played.

    Just because some announcer called LIn a backup PG doesn’t mean he functioned as one. He functioned as mostly an SG and 3rd facilitator but really, X factor.

  • spiderman

    Houston simply does not deserve Lin.
    MDA, will retire with a blip rather than a bang

  • sws94

    I don’t know. We’ll see. It won’t be a major concern but I’ll watch Charlotte and participate on their boards. Now, will Lin get to the playoffs and build on what he did last season. I hope so.

    I’m more of a playoff fan than regular season game. Because I think some players make their rep there. And Lin has the stuff to make a big rep there. But he needs to get there, and I hope he doesn’t not get there next season and the following one.

  • sws94

    oh yeah, congrats on what Cleveland and LeBron did. Good for him.

  • sws94

    Makes sense. We both have reasons for him not to go back to Charlotte.

  • aras

    THE KING! yeah i was hugging my brother for like 10 min when they won…Kyrie is as clutch as they come MY GOD!!!! that step back 3 on currys face had shooooocked from my seat.

  • aras

    I really want Lin to get one more chance at the starting spot without any bull thats all. If he fails no more excuses…but he has not had a real chance. I love playoff basketball thats when we know what players were made off. Look at Lin in the playoffs his play changed a h*** of a lot in a good way and marvin vice versa lol…..playoffs is when the real game of basketball starts.

  • takeme2cruz

    Lin was kemba, batum’s backup whenever he’s on. Stop denying facts.

  • casual bb fan

    Sorry, I didnt say that Lin is a backup to KW last season although be replaced KW in the Cavs game where the record of that game is history. What I was saying is this FA IMO even if Lin is given Max he wouldn’t sign for Hornets to backup KW. Heck he wouldn’t sign with the Hornets as starting shooting guards if KW as starting point guard ISO and no team ball. Haha

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Agree with your sentiment..I also, would rather Lin go back to Houston than return to Charlotte, even if he’s a back-up for Houston.

    Just think about it..Beverly is not a 35mpg starter, so even if Lin comes off the bench there, he will probably average twice as much minutes in Houston than in Charlotte.

    Than you have Mike D’Antoni who will be much more trustful to Lin than Clifford…Lin will most likely finish most games in Houston than in Charlotte because I simply don’t see Kemba/Batum/MKG not finishing the majority of the games there.

    So Lin will have to alway be in Linsanity-mode just to get a chance to finish games In Charlotte…No way Kemba will sit since he’s the face of the franchise…No way will a newly signed Batum will sit games to let Lin finish….Maybe MKG can sit to fnish games but even him is viewed as a great defender and you need him to guard the best offensive player on the other side….So Lin will not finish many games next year.

  • takeme2cruz

    Hornets looked good the first time last season because lin w as in the mix, period.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Spurs have 2 PG…Lin will have to be a complete fool to go to a team that have 2 legit PG…That means no minutes at the PG spot

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    the only way Lin would agree to return to the lowly rockets if these four conditions are met..
    1) Les promises Lin the starting PG job, never to be taken away, and he gets at least 35 minutes per game
    2) Morey gets on his knees and kisses Lin’s CrazyLights (the Lakers version) and apologizes for the Melo #7 billboard shenanigan
    3) Les fires the 3 Stooges
    4) they offer Lin the MAX
    and even after that, i hope Lin throws it all back in their faces

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Lin wouldn’t join Houston as backup even with max money. Heck he will only join if Harden is slated to be traded in due course during the early part of the year before all star break. Haha

  • sws94

    Yes, it is. If Lin can start on a playoff team as a starting PG, great. But we should be open to alternatives and not think that conditions that put him on the map in 2012 will happen again in 2016. I don’t really think Lin is the same player. Today’s Lin is much, much, much more focused on defense, playing with other facilitators, and picking his spots. That Lin was all about handling the ball and driving to the rim using the occasional jump shot, but he had the ball a lot. He’s changed. So, I look for something different as a starter if and when he starts. I think people may be disappointed that Lin plays differently if and when he does get that starting PG. He may let others run the show more than we would want. Just my feeling based on observations of how he’s played as PG with the Lakers and Charlotte when he’s played PG. I may be wrong, but those are my feelings.

  • sws94

    Kyrie really stepped up. I like his makeup. He’s a skilled player but he also has a good makeup.

  • sws94

    He might. But that’s kind of moot. Clifford says Lin’s role is off the bench. He’s a spot starter only.

  • james brown

    a class of its own!

  • james brown

    the head/chief/CEO/president of “a class of its own”LOL!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    did we all forget? Lin was PJ Hairston’s backup LOL

  • CJSHYY

    One is for sure. #2 after that Morey & Mc did call Lin…. Lin still follows Morey on tweet. #3 I wish.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. If Clifford is inept I don’t think your kindself will emulate him to say that Lin roll is with off the bench again this season? Last season is history and you know how it turned out right? Haha

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Rondo wants to be paired with Lin?..Where did you hear that?

  • casual bb fan

    4) have a concrete plan to trade Harden between now and all stars break. Haha

  • psalm234

    #1 is still not enough, though.
    Lin playing Bev’s role as a defensive PG next to Harden is a travesty to his God-given court-vision and passing abilities.

    I’d like to be a fly on the wall when MDA tries to convince JLin to come.
    I wonder what JLin would ask first (i.e. “Will Harden or I be Nash?”, etc.)

  • Rick Johnson

    Kobe trying to sabotage the Lakers:

    https://twitter.com/CountOn24/status/746230072323932160

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    lol. they just got rid of Magic Johnson and now they have to deal with this clown

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • JLin fan from Australia
  • occupatio

    here’s Jim Cavan on the DRose trade. Cavan is prolly the most entertaining Knicks writer around.

    https://thecauldron.si.com/rose-trade-proves-phil-knicks-are-basically-war-criminals-4489939de4f1#.jnyraom7g

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Kobe trying his head as agent! Although Kobe is a diva he knows Business 101, create a market when there is none. Haha.

  • psalm234

    wow, DRose trade proves PJax & Knicks are war criminals? harsh 🙂

    Perhaps PJax is tired of Melo who doesn’t want to leave NY limelight so he brought in DRose to make Melo even more upset. Who knows if the losing would make Melo have enough to demand a trade to Cleveland to pursue a ring?
    Trading away Lopez for a broken-down Rose was pretty bad.

    Now I can almost imagine Knicks fans chanting “MVP! MVP!” when JLin and the Nets beat the Knicks in the MSG lol

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    he should call his new business Diva Agency

  • psalm234

    If you read Sean Marks’ answer of what he sees in the drafted rookie Whitehead, you can see what he likes in him (high character, versatile, combo guard, energy, passion).
    It certainly reminds us of a certain somebody …

    Mike Mazzeo: When did you work him out and what did you see in particular?
    We actually had a chance to sit with him a few days ago again, and our coaching staff was really high on the character and person that he is. That means everything when we’re starting to build a culture here.

    Alex Raskin, Wall Street Journal: Do you see him [Whitehead] as a one or two or is it too early to make those sort of decision?
    I think he’s versatile. I think we put it that way. If you wanna use a ‘combo guard’. We like what he brings to the table. We like his fire, his energy and his passion he has. You know, that’s even away from the court not even just what he does on the court.

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/746241353051475968

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    rajon rondo?

  • psalm234

    If you asked Rick Carlisle, Rondo certainly has passion .. to curse his coach lol
    https://twitter.com/CFBChttr/status/571664115669725184

  • james brown

    ???joke???

  • zxcvb

    Our coaching staff was really high on the character and person that he is. That means everything when we’re starting to build a culture here.

    It starts with good people. We’re going to bring good people in here and you’ve probably heard me say it many times.

    Seems unusually adamant about high character guys. Mentions it during every interview.

  • zxcvb

    He would be the exact opposite of a good culture, character guy.

    I can see them looking at Conley (though he wouldn’t sign), but definitely not Rondo.

  • adele

    Lol

  • Jedi

    I can’t love this enough.

  • Jedi

    He’s trying to make his agency the biggest in China, with his side job to battle ghosts. Didn’t you see on tv?

  • adele

    NETS🏀😎

  • David Kim

    Anthony Puccio, NetsDaily: What makes Brooklyn an attractive destination for players/free agents to come to?

    I think there’s a lot of reasons why Brooklyn’s attractive. First off the commitment from ownership being number one. They’ve stood behind here and said ‘we’re gonna build this facility’ that you guys are all in. We’re not afraid to spend money. We’re going to spend money in the right places

    Lin? Haha

  • David Kim

    How about this starting 5?

    Lin, Bazemore, Bogdanovic, Horford, Brooks

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • donsmacau

    That was one of JLIN’s disappointments, JLIN was specifically promised the backup to Kemba at Point Guard but instead played off-the-ball 85% of his time and really only got playing time due to injury.

  • donsmacau

    Belly signing means they did NOT clear cap space yet but actually took on more cap.

    They just signed a COMBO GUARD in Belinelli which is the same position that you and all the posters who love JLIN at SG parrot that JLIN played all season and is fabulous at – so why do they still need JLIN?

    JLIN is gone, CLee is gone and hopefully Marv is gone to get his payday – that leaves Hornets going after a rim-protector and with all that offense now gone, Hornets are nearing a tanking season.

  • donsmacau

    No wonder Rondo gets along with DeMarcus Cousins so well, they are cut out of the same cloth and like a pack of wolves feed on each other’s viciousness.

    Woe to the team Rondo next lands on and if he stays with Sac, Joerger better get that resume updated again.

  • Lin Dunn

    Learn something, I don’t know a team has to pick up a player’s legal defense bill.

  • Lin Dunn

    Great if Cousins goes to LA, then the Kings is a more desirable destination for LIn.

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • JLin fan from Australia

  • PPP

    Hopeful:

    Lin
    Bazemore or Courtney Lee
    RHJ
    Marvin Williams
    Lopez

    A playoff team?

  • Brent Yen

    Lin + 4 non KOBE NBA players = a playoff team

  • donsmacau

    Can someone make a Flagrant Foul video from this footage please, I saw a few clear flagrants not called.

  • NONONO

    got this?
    “Brooklyn Nets have agreed to a Summer League deal with point guard Yogi Ferrell (Indiana), per league sources.
    9:07 AM – 24 Jun 2016”

  • NONONO
  • donsmacau

    If Yogi is not a Boo-Boo in summer then perhaps he’d make a decent backup for JLIN.

  • David Kim

    Adam Zagoria
    Adam Zagoria – ‏@AdamZagoria

    Interesting, Bryan Colangelo tells ESPN they will look for a ‘non-traditional point guard” who can shoot b/c Ben Simmons is a point-forward.
    6:22 AM – 24 Jun 2016 from Manhattan, NY

  • kittyhead

    Then why do they reject Beverley?

  • kittyhead

    Nothing special…they will sign or send players to play in the summer league or d league, expecting to find diamonds in the dust.

  • sws94

    That’s the way the league is going. Maybe half the teams in say 10 years can have “point-forwards” and the point-guards will be guys that score and shoot. There is something of a transition away from the traditional point guards now, PGs are scoring more and there are more bigger guys handling the ball as team facilitators. That, and the multi-facilitator type of offense.

  • donsmacau

    Beverley shot better last season but he isn’t a bona-fide scorer and takes few shots, only reason Bev plays is if the other guard refuses to play defense.

  • donsmacau

    If Sixers put Simmons into the NBA fire as their starting Point Forward – likely that he won’t live up to expectations and have his confidence broken. That’ll be a shame.

    There are few point forwards that have immediate success in the NBA or even endure for long, Lebron and Magic Johnson. Then you have some turnover machines like Nic Batum who are PF wannabees. the Greek freak let’s see how that works out for Bucks.

    Sixers had the same notion last season when they did not have a “traditional PG”, by Christmas they got their traditional PG back in Ish Smith.

  • kittyhead

    I think “who can shoot” means more like 3D players who dont need to handle the ball to create, a traditional pg’s job.

  • In one of Lin’s interviews towards the end of regular season, Lin did mention that he misses having access to good Asian food, when speaking about the drawbacks of living in Charlotte. So it might sound silly, but I think this is partly what is on his mind with the “city” comment. I think Lin does like living in NYC for this reason. Of course, he would prefer west coast, but all the California teams are off the table. So could access to Asian food be the thing that gives the Nets an edge? 🙂

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Jeremy!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Fish doesn’t bite, Morey went Lessy.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    No way. Trading a star for a bust!

  • Jamie

    Lol the east back then was way weaker
    He wont get away with it now in a 82 game season

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Harden can’t be Nash. He’s not…tall enough.

  • DrewBear2

    I doubt there are many NBA cities that don’t have a few good Asian restaurants. Besides, Jeremy spent a lot of time eating out with teammates this past season, which meant going to places more toward the fast-food end of the spectrum.

    Just my impression, but I thought his comments hinted that he preferred a less frenetic type of community. Cambridge/Boston & Charlotte over NYC. When back in Palo Alto he probably prefers to stay out of SF, especially when there are so many food options in the greater Bay area.

  • Whitman Lam

    Patrick Beverley type? They already have that in Isaiah Canaan.

  • KHuang

    The Sixers probably needed more actual quality for a young talented athletic guy like Noel.

  • KHuang

    I think it’s more that Lee will allegedly provide defense while Belinelli will allegedly provide defense.

    That’s how the Hornets are happily replacing Lin with TWO players.

    However, the Hornets will get neither defense from Lee nor offense from Belinelli. And neither of those two one dimensional (more like no dimensional) guys will help the Hornets replace Lin’s production and wins.

  • KHuang

    Jerian Grant alone is a better player than Rose, let alone Calderon and Lopez who each helped the Knicks.

  • psalm234

    Yes if the Nets defensive scheme is pretty good

    Offense will be quite good

  • Rick James

    step back 3 was amazing. The play I liked the most was lebron coming up out of nowhere and blocking iguodala from getting the bucket. The kevin love defensive stop was also amazing…hes probably the worst defensive player in the league, but you could see the effort he put on that play, like his life depended on it, sticking to curry as well as he did was really cool, and it paid off big.

  • KHuang

    So the Sixers are going to make Ben Simmons the point guard, huh?

    LOTS OF LOSSES.

    Not even Lin can save the Sixers from this.

    Ben Simmons will be like Nicholas Batum with training wheels.

  • PPP

    LOL. Stop trolling.

  • KHuang

    Gotta KEEP LOSING.

    Add the NBA’s worst ballhog to an already cancerous team!

  • PPP

    Yeah, they still need a rim protecting back up c but perimeter defense is good enough. If they can get into the playoff, chances for a max player to join them next summer could be much better.

  • Rick James

    yes, we need Lin + 4 patrick beverleys. Beverley never shoots, he just annoys the other team, so Lin can just go all out lol.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Harden is no defender; It is highly impossible choice for Lin to go to Houston without some assurance this guy plays defence

  • Briiick

    Bryan Colangelo wants to prove he has a different system from his dad, LOL.

  • Rick James

    dumb idea, they should get Lin and use him as a traditional PG, and use Simmons as a secondary playmaker. Unless they want to follow the “cavs” model, ie suck so bad that lebron james takes his talents to south beach.

  • sws94

    If the ball is going through the point forward so much, then a non-traditional PG can serve as a ball-handler and scorer. It’s not unlike the move other teams are making, and it would be catering to Simmons’s strength. Simmons will have growing pains anyway, so will the Sixers. But maybe now they are really moving forward. It would be good for that city to have exciting and competitive basketball again.

  • exel

    Kemba fits the bill. Trade Kemba for Nerlen, Hornets re-sign Lin as the point guard.

  • Jedi

    I see he got the VIP seats…nice!

  • sws94

    We’re still severely lacking in information. We entered the team sweepstakes way prematurely. FA starts on the first, I believe, and that’s when things will fall into place. The trades may still be going on. The trades are big, and they mean a lot, but the final piece of the scenario is defined by the FA signings. And, if you’re following Lin, not only Conley and Rondo, but other FA PGs as well, and possibly SGs. When slots are filled, that affects Lin. And popular notions of where Lin may go may then be shown not to materialize. Or they may. But it is still too early to tell.

  • DrewBear2

    The “great” thing about the NBA is everybody is entitled to stick with their own dumb idea as long as they can convince the owner it’s actually smart.

  • David Kim

    The Wizards are reportedly prepared to offer Joakim Noah a 4 year, max contract worth around $120 million. Wow. (via @Mitch_Lawrence)

    Wow.. Max contract? LOL

  • sws94

    Insane. Noah’s health is very suspect.

  • DrewBear2

    “Then you have some turnover machines like Nic Batum who are PF wannabes.”

    Nic’s turnover rate per 36 was lower this season than Jeremy’s previous 4 seasons before he came to the Hornets. I agree Nic needs to improve in that department, but he is a very good passer and hardly a “turnover machine”. That more accurately describes someone like Harden.

  • DrewBear2

    Either a stupid rumor or stupid money.

  • psalm234

    It’s definitely an incomplete puzzle at this point but we have some useful information

    NBA Draft & trades helps to see how things shape up.
    After the barrage of PG trades, we can rule out Knicks, Jazz since the main starter PG spot are filled.
    Teams who drafted PGs high in the 1st round (Wolves #5 Kris Dunn) probably wants to give a lot of PT and Rubio might be on the way out

    It will be interesting week leading up to July 1 indeed to see trade rumors of who wants PGs (and who actually waits until 7/1)

  • DrewBear2

    Even if Harden provides “assurances” that he’ll play D and you believe him, how do you enforce that? Jeremy knows Harden well enough to be very skeptical of any assurances from that quarter.

  • DrewBear2

    Weren’t people predicting a similar trend when Magic & Bird came into the league?

  • DrewBear2

    Is this similar to what Jeremy signed with Dallas in 2010?

  • psalm234

    “Chandler Parsons Seeking Max Deal Mavs Won’t Offer”
    Dallas has made it clear to Parsons they don’t intend to offer him a max contract.
    The Mavericks appear to prefer to sign Hassan Whiteside and Mike Conley with their cap space.

    Once again, it’s clear JLin is not Mavs #1 priority.
    Mavs have been vocal about wanting Conley. Nets and Bulls are relatively quiet.
    https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/746402674057240576

  • DrewBear2

    But if Conley can’t refuse a 5th year from Memphis, who is Dallas’ #2 PG option?

  • grover chang

    LOL, Someone should have told Parson the “Lin effect” to bump your salary only lasts one contract per role player. You Gotta cash in the year after LIn is off your team. (I’m talking to you Nic Batum as well). LOLOLOL.

  • Arsenium12 .

    Interesting article from Bobby Marks (Yahoo Sports) on “Max” players. It’s from June 17th. Here’s an excerpt :

    Since the summer of 2013, 24 players have received max contracts.

    Of those 24 players – including Cleveland Cavaliers franchise player LeBron James and teammate Kyrie Irving – 19 have played in at least one All-Star Game.

    The five max players who have not earned All-Star honors: Gordon Hayward, Enes Kanter, DeAndre Jordan, Wes Matthews and Greg Monroe. Jordan, however, earned first-team All-NBA honors this season. …

    The Vertical talked with various league executives and identified 11 players – six of whom have not played in an All-Star Game – who could earn a max contract.

    • Restricted free agents: Bradley Beal, Andre Drummond, Harrison Barnes and Evan Fournier.

    • Players with full Bird rights: Mike Conley, DeMar DeRozan, Al Horford, Nicolas Batum and Kevin Durant.

    • Cap-space candidates: Hassan Whiteside and LeBron James. (Cleveland could use early Bird rights with James, but would have to sign him to a two-year contract).

    See : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-office-insider-max-player-154015932.html

  • KHuang

    Dallas has Deron Williams who is the kind of slow footed injury prone washed up “All Star” that Mark Cuban adores.

  • KHuang

    I’m more concerned about Harden trying to play PG in D’Antoni’s offense and slowing the offense to a selfish low scoring iso crawl.

    Whether Lin is there or not, the Rockets have a BIG PROBLEM with James Harden freezing out his teammates and slowing the pace down.

    Unless Lin somehow joins the Rockets, I see the Rockets being murdered defensively because opponents are saving their energy for offense by resting on defense while Harden hogs the ball on offense.

  • KHuang

    Hoopshype just reported that the Brooklyn Nets are reportedly looking hard at Rajon Rondo.

    Rondo wants to go to NY, though not the Knicks because Derrick Rose is there.

    However, Hoopshype also reported that the Kings like Rondo and want him back.

    Rondo’s signing will directly impact Lin, as NBA teams will try to get Rondo before trying to get Lin.

  • psalm234

    I think the report was only Rondo’s camp showing interest to play for the Nets
    I haven’t seen any reports that the Nets is interested in Rondo.

    And based on Sean Marks’ repeated message about ‘high characters’ and building a Spurs-like culture, it would definitely send the wrong message to choose Rondo as the leader.

    I’ll be really surprised if Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson are seriously looking at Rondo

  • JoeTeam

    In this era, Offense is so important. D during the finals was tough, by both sides, and it was Kyrie’s 3 that did GSW in. If Steph or KT had hit their shots, it might have been GSW. So, I doubt if Rondo is a safe bet for any team nowadays. But you never know, about biases for the positive too. That is, Rondo has positive attribution in the system because he’s been anointed as a great handler and passer, so everything thinks he’s a star. I think I’d rather watch Delly or any other start than Rondo.

  • Rick James

    lol, batum is getting paid next season, but hornets will be getting screwed. This is the “Lin curse” after he leaves the team. If Lin stays, then the curse will go away though.

  • KHuang

    I’d be really surprised if the Nets AREN’T looking at Rondo and ARE looking at Lin.

  • Rick James

    agreed. This is a lin fan site so we see things through rose colored glasses. Unfortunately, the nba sees rondo as “better” than lin…which is ridiculous in my opinion.

    We need an unbiased opinion on who is better…Lin or Rondo

  • Linzen

    Agreed 100%. Plus the fact that Nets dealt with Pacers for picks instead of just getting the two PGs from Suns. I think they really mean what they say… “building a culture with high character guys”

  • sws94

    I’m leery of that report.

  • KHuang

    Had Bogut not gotten injured, Curry would have been able to snuff out Irving defensively and also would have done his normal super scoring.

    Rondo is a CANCER who has dragged every team he’s played on down. He’s atrocious defensively (something I got flamed for saying even while he was lazing around during the Celtics championship years) and is a selfish player who freezes out teammates while passing only to his “stars”.

    This is not a player that is a good influence, as the Celtics and Mavs and Kings found out.

  • sws94

    Rondo is a strong facilitator/passer. But his defense has gone down. His scoring isn’t good and his free throw shooting is terrible. I’ll take Lin. Plus Lin is a great locker room presence and leader.

  • KHuang

    I never have believed that the Nets or any team other than MAYBE the Rockets are interested in hiring Lin.

  • KHuang

    YOU would take Lin because you are like good players, but the NBA cannot handle Lin being Asian.

  • KHuang

    I see the Nets as basically having a 76er Sam Hinkie “scorched earth” policy in which they’re going to gut the entire team in the next 5 years in favor of rookies.

  • Linzen

    Sadly, that may be the case. I have been hearing contradicting reports between 1) Sean Marks don’t want to sign FA just to spend money vs. 2) shipping Young out free up another 10M so Nets can chase another (3 total) 10M+ FA… hard to read at this moment.

  • KHuang

    No, the Hornets are DONE.

    They are not going to be offering a contract to Lin. They already offered the insultingly low $5 million MLE to him and got bluntly turned down.

    Even if Lin stayed as a minimum contract player, he’d be a 12th man. The Hornets think that they replaced Lin’s D with Lee and Lin’s O with Belinelli.

    What the Hornets will painfully learn is that losing Lin will cost the D, O, and W.

  • KHuang

    Hoopshype did NOT report it that way.

    The Nets are officially interested in acquiring Rondo.

    I would add that even if Rondo doesn’t become a Net, I don’t see the Nets going after Lin either. That’s because I see the Nets doing a gigantic teardown, not a build up.

  • KHuang

    As a Suns “fan”, I will REJOICE once the two loser PGs in Brandon Knight and Eric Bledsoe are mercifully moved off the team.

    Even with those two guys, the Suns should offer big money to Lin. That’s because those Bledsoe and Knight are injured so much, Lin would end up starting the entire season anyway. And Lin alone would earn the Suns far more wins than Bledsoe and Knight working together has.

  • KHuang

    To me, it seems that the Nets are doing the “Tim Duncan” approach –

    tank until a Duncan is drafted, then surround him with cheapass role players because Duncan is so good that he can win titles with D Leaguers.

    The goal is basically to amass cheap role players while waiting for the DUNCAN SAVIOR – as if the Duncan savior will suddenly pop up for New Jersey.

  • KHuang

    I suspect that only one team is interested in Lin: the Rockets.

    Even so, I’m not convinced that the Rockets will come through for Lin.

    With various veteran PGs becoming available on the market via free agency or trade, all of those NONASIAN point guards would be far more valuable to the Rockets than Lin is. Doesn’t matter that Lin outproduces every single free agent guard.

  • David Kim

    Coach D’Antoni & @JHarden13 stopped by the draft room tonight – congrats to new Rockets Chinanu Onuaku

  • DrewBear2
  • KHuang

    Just because a player opts out, that doesn’t mean that he is leaving his team.

  • ProLin

    Harden doesn’t look too happy… “two more of THEM?”

  • DrewBear2

    Speak for yourself. I’m totally unbiased. 😉

  • ProLin

    more like the 13th man. I sure hope Lin starts somewhere and just burn these PGs other put before him left and right.

  • Uh-Oh

    Of course, Lin! Go to Rondo site for unbiased opinion. Duh~~~~~
    Roll eyes. WTH.

  • Guest

    does this logic count for Lin too???

  • Uh-Oh

    I seriously hope I can puke through the screen and straight at your face.

  • Uh-Oh

    Duh~~puke you!

  • ProLin

    me too, sounds more like fanboy wishes than reality. Net’s are not going to leak the interest at this time. It’s probably people close to Rondo leaking this in hope to drum up interest. Desirable FA should not be talking about who they want to play for. They should STFU and let teams pursue them. Rondo sounds desperate to leave the West coast.

  • ProLin

    yup. Rondo is anything but. He publicly gave up on his team during a playoff run.

  • ProLin

    I really hope you’re wrong and that at least a few people is not effing racist like you deem them to be. If the NBA is as bad as what you’ve said, then he should just join the Shanghai Sharks now.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Uh-Oh! You’re supposed to be the nice one in your family. That kind of talk is definitely not lady-like. LOL. Do what I do. Use the “Block User’ function liberally. It works wonders.

  • Uh-Oh

    I don’t have the block feature.
    And Uh-Oh! I am a wild lady. ( ̄▽ ̄)

  • TK Wong

    Haha … so true!

  • KHuang

    Absolutely it does –

    the Hornets could theoretically sign Lin.

    But it’s unlikely given that the Hornets just replaced Lin’s defense wiith Lee and Lin’s offense with Belinelli. Or so the Hornets THINK.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Oh, maybe you don’t have that function because you don’t sign in to Disqus. Don’t you want to save all of your posts for posterity?

    Wild lady huh? Kinda like Linda Blair’s Regan role? When you post like that it’s hard for me to resist unblocking to see what was posted by blocked users 😉

  • Click Click

    LOL this comment was poetic.

  • Hope

    Oh cool, just figure out how to block user on Disque. Just click on the user, from the Disque page, select block user.

  • Rick James

    yes, the possibility is there. I know hornets will make a strong effort to try and keep lin’s services at the right price, and probably offer huge increases in his next season with them when they get bird rights. I don’t know if Lin will stay, but he repeatedly says he wants to be on a team that makes him happy, ie not much pressure, more freedom and nobody constantly questioning him. In that case, hornets were the best team lin has ever been on. Lin also said playing time is important to him, money and starting role, AND ESPECIALLY making the playoffs. I don’t think Lin will join a tanking team. So I guess he will weigh all of that, talk with coaches, team mates and figure out the best choice.

  • Rick James

    I hope people haven’t blocked me…I haven’t blocked anyone yet and don’t plan to either.

  • donsmacau

    Let me say that Charlotte Hornets are at greater risk of being the TANKING team than a Brooklyn Nets led by JLIN with the backing of Kenny Atkinson/Sean Marks.

    CHA with what they did last night and the FA’s they will lose are demonstrably worse and when they realize that from losses, they might can the whole season.

  • donsmacau

    How about Sir Charles and Bigman Fatman?

  • Rick James

    hornets are a better team than nets, now that they traded away thadeus young. Im starting to have reservations about them. Regular season doesn’t matter, so I don’t care if Lin gets 20ppg in regular season on a bad team. Its all about play offs. That is the time that tens of millions of people actually watch basketball and really start to care. If lin doesn’t make playoffs, its a failure of a season in my eyes, no matter how good he does in regular season.

    Hornets might lose batum now that GSW seem to be interested in him. If that happens, I don’t mid if Lin returns to hornets. He will still get alot of playing time, and the team will likely retain marvin williams, and get another wing player to help out.

  • Rick James

    nobody, lol.

  • donsmacau

    Exactly what that was.
    Rondo’s character blights each team he is associated with; It is Rondo pursuing Nets for what he wishes would be a payday. Ronda is desperate, and this type of stuff from his camping is transparent and destroys his negotiating position.
    Rondo goes to China/Europe or is on the bench behind someone like Kemba next season.

  • donsmacau

    JLIN is off this Hornets team, the sooner you accept – the sooner you could begin your personal healing.

  • CJSHYY

    Lin to Rox?? Got this from the other side…

    Harden: ““Everything comes with getting more playmakers and getting guys who can create,” Harden said. “So July 1 is going to be very interesting; we’re very excited.””

    http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-rockets/post/_/id/2682/the-offseason-of-james-harden-begins-today

  • donsmacau

    Parsons starting to get the old injury prone reputation and he’s obviously not the player Mark Cuban thought he would be for Mavs.

  • Lin Dunn

    The most important info is MDA plans to let JH handle the ball. SMH

  • Click Click

    There will be tons of teams interested in Lin… in fact, most teams will be. Every team wants a great PG 6th man to lead their bench for them and also be a backup in case their starter PG gets injured. Teams being interested in Lin won’t be a problem this year like it has been in previous years.

    The problem for Lin will be to find a team that fits in all of his criteria and preferences. Not every team will be able to offer him a guaranteed starting spot, nice contract, a chance to win in the playoffs, has unselfish players who are team-oriented, AND has a good coach that believes in Lin. It’s tough to find the perfect fit for Lin. He can probably find a team to meet 2 or 3 of his criteria, but I’m not sure if it’s possible to meet them all.

    Houston is definitely not a good destination for Lin. I doubt Morey will want Lin back there for a 3rd time and I highly doubt Lin wants to return for a 3rd time, even with D’Antoni there. Remember, Lin’s most important criteria is being happy. He was the most miserable during his time in Houston. The fans, media, coaches, GM, everybody blamed him for their woes and didn’t give him credit for their success.

    I believe the 2 best fits for Lin are Spurs and Mavs. The only problem with these 2 teams is, they are going after top-tier free agents, and I don’t think Lin is on their list of top-tiers. However, if they miss out on Conley, I believe they will give Lin a consideration and maybe a serious offer. They would be stupid not to. Nets would be the 3rd best destination for Lin, but the problem there is the fact they probably won’t be a winning franchise anytime soon. I doubt they can even make the playoffs even if they get Lin and another good player.

  • Rick James

    lol, you’re off your rails. I said I don’t want Lin to go to a bad nets team. At this point, 76ers for me is the best choice, they have good players like ben simmons, and a solid core. I’d even prefer rockets, or bulls (if they’re not tanking), possibly spurs. Hornets are a good choice if they ditch batum, otherwise lin should leave.

  • Rick James

    what would rockets trade for rubio? They have nothing…pat beverley, corey brewer, jones? Lol, the only player wolves would consider is shaqtin mvp 2016, james harden

  • donsmacau

    You do realize that the 76ers had 10 wins and Nets had 21 wins.

    Ben Simmons is a rookie who could not get his LSU team into the NCAAs – he might turn out wonderfully but who knows.

    Hornets likely record next season 29-53 and right out of the playoffs.

  • Lin Dunn

    76ers may pay well and get a PG for one yr to be a place holder and help groom the current draft picks.

    There is a good chance next yr they will dump this PG and try to start the groomed draft pick. Remember Jordan Clarkson?

    But I have no problem with Lin going to 76ers for $$$ if somehow Nets does not work out.

  • Click Click

    Rondo goes against the Nets’ new culture they’re proclaiming to trying to build. They want good character players, team-first guys, and they’re trying to go young. Rondo does not fit that mold. In fact, he’s the opposite of what the Nets are supposedly trying to build.

  • Rick James

    its a risk, but Lin is a veteran, and he could lead the 6ers and grow the team into something worthy. 76ers won 10 games last season, and nets won 21….thats not a big difference. Which team sucks more? That is up for debate…and nets even traded away one of their only decent players thadd young. It smells more and more like a tank job to me, even though they don’t have any picks lol. Maybe tanking to save money, who knows?

    Hornets will have more than 30 wins, they got 30 wins with MKG the year before, so if he is healthy and batum is on the team, I would say hornets might hit 40 wins. Probably not as good as this season with Lin on the team, but still a decent record. Maybe enough to get 8th seed.

  • Lin Dunn

    Even though I love to see Lin goes to Nets, but I think he will do well with a reasonable coach. If Rondo goes to Nets, then the Kings PG slot is open. If Conley goes to Nets, Memphis is open.

  • Rick James

    if lin is starting pg and turns 76ers into a playoff contender, I guarantee they keep lin as starting pg and develop other guys as backups or trade them off. Lin has something now that other players dont have..he is a solid 2 way player, which alot of coaches find very valuable. Defense is not sexy but it is regarded very well.

  • Barry Allen

    They are in for a huge suprise when Lin leaves next year. Their standings will drop.

  • Lin Dunn

    More thoughts on Rox/MDA/ JH – “getting more playmakers and guys who can create”. They had a playmaker Jlin, and JH refused to be involved in the plays that Lin created for him. JH refused to play D. So Rox made JH happy by kicking Lin out and created a situation where PB play dirty, play D to keep JH happy. PB is not a play maker so now they want to get rid of him and get play makers. If MDA and Les are smart, they should realize JH is someone who can score 30 points for them in a game but he will also lose 26 points in a game due to his lack of defense. There is reason that JH made Shaqin a fool MVP this yr.

  • Barry Allen

    As usual, the Hornets are undervalueiing Lin. Someone who led the team as a starter to a win over Lebron’s Cavs when Kemba was out. Something that has not been done in years and and what Kemba could never do as starting PG. Huge mistake.

  • CJSHYY
  • donsmacau

    Hardly, Batum does NOT always play the POINT FORWARD position meaning he does NOT always man the point. Oftentimes he is asked to defer to other PGs – therefore it cannot be appropriate to compare Batum’s turnover rate to those players who are charged to primarily play the point.

    When Batum plays the point, he is a turnover machine.

  • donsmacau

    Heres a playmaker for you James Harden : how about Nic Batum…

    … oh wait that’s right, since Kemba has no talent or inclination to be a playmaker, Kemba & the Hornets fall apart if there is no adult playmaker on the team thus are the only team in the NBA willing to pay Batum max, and they will.

  • Jamie

    Hope he finds his game again in NY
    Was such a great player

  • donsmacau

    Rose epitomizes why serious injury is so devastating to a professional athlete and thus the moniker “Injury Prone” is so damaging to a career.

    Rose used to play aggressive and free. – Injury – came back then again Injury.

    Now the guy won’t take chances, he’s more passive, he won’t play through small everyday injuries thus sits quite often for stuff others would just play through. Likely we won’t ever see 2/3rds of the Rose that won MVP ever again.

  • Jamie

    Ben Simmons will handle the ball dont think Lin’d have a big role on the sixers or the hornets

  • Jamie

    nah Lin will get offers
    asian hate is not that strong chill lol

  • Jamie

    He’s not selfish though

  • Uh-Oh

    No idea who’s Linda Blair until I google.
    No~~~I m me like nobody else.

  • zxcvb

    1) Hoopshype is just an aggregator. They don’t break stories.
    2) The story is that Rondo likes Knicks and Nets, not that they want him.
    3) Knicks already spurned Rondo and Nets keep saying “No cancers.”

  • Jamie

    Not true

  • freemind

    thanks for posting this interview. wow it’s over 72 mins long. So many random topics covered . pertaining to FA he only mention about finding a team and hope to stay in it for 3-4 years. He is such a sport too and did the running man challenge on the spot.

  • KHuang

    I desperately hope that you are right, because up until now you haven’t been.

    So far, it’s been ALL RACE HATE against Lin.

  • Jamie

    I won’t lose hope until Trump gets elected.

  • KHuang

    Actually, Hoopshype is the ONLY site that actual NBA players and teams use to follow rumors.

    Hoopshype reported there being rumors of the Nets being interested in Rondo.

    Rondo is not seen as a cancer around the NBA, though obviously the Mavs feel differently. The media reports that Rondo successfully “rehabbed” his career by leading the NBA in assists for that horrible Kings team that got George Karl fired and was wracked with internal strife.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    playmaker huh? hmm, maybe Rox can try to “steal” Parsons back from the Mavs. LOL

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • Lin Dunn

    By nice contract – you mean money, that is not Lin’s priority. A playoff contending team is not his priority either.
    He said he wants to be happy, with a coach who trust him, humble team mates, and starter.
    I have no problem with Mav and Spurs.

  • zxcvb

    They use Hoopshype because it’s an aggregator of original sources. Very convenient.

    There are zero stories about Nets being interested in Rondo. It’s only that Rondo is interested in the Nets. And the Knicks. And anywhere he can get paid! Frankly, it’s kinda desperate.

    If there’s a rumor that “Sources say Nets will offer Rondo…” then that would be different. Although there was already a rumor debunked about Noah being offered max by Washington!

  • zxcvb

    For example, Hoopshype “reported” that Thad Young was staying a month ago. But when I looked at the actual sources, Marks never made any promise to him. And yesterday he was traded! Gotta look at the original source always.

  • Click Click

    By nice contract, I mean long-term stability. Lin said he doesn’t care about money but he also said he cares about contract size because it shows a team respects you and your services. Meaning, the bigger the contract, the less chance of Lin getting benched by a coach that doesn’t trust him.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks.

  • CJSHYY

    MDA is in Houston now?

  • Rick Johnson

    Harden’s in the draft room? Geez he’s the source of all their problems.

  • sport

    JH is the problem of the team and why he can’t win Championships!

  • sport

    Because that’s the FO’s plan, MDA signed on knowing very well who is the star player.

  • hchao

    Indeed, looking at Rondo is like eating their own “high character” words.

  • Rick Johnson

    linspiredinca @linspiredinca
    @JLin7 DOTA2. His team is named the “J team”
    6:41 PM – 24 Jun 2016
    https://twitter.com/linspiredinca/status/746518687469834246

  • sport

    Noah? Max? lol

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Did Charlotte really “RECENTLY” OFFER lIN THE $5M MLE contract?….I thought that was last year offer they made to him before he rejected it and took the $2.2M simply because it gives him more flexibility.

  • PPP

    What if the Rockets offer Lin 60m for 3 years? If I were Lin, I’ll take 40m for 2 years with the 2nd year player option.

    Hmm…..

  • hchao

    I can’t see a couple of my own posts made in the last half an hour. But I keep seeing them upvoted. Can anyone tell me what’s going on?

  • CJSHYY

    I think they will offer him 4 years deal. MDA got 4 years that’s how long Lin will get….

  • hchao

    The sposts were marked as “detected as spams.” I think it’s because they were posted a few minutes apart and they have similar wordings, and that automtically qualify as “spams” by imperfect mod rules. But it doesn’t make sense they kept getting upvoted when they’re blocked.

  • PPP

    but..but…but what if they fire MDA after the first year? haha.

  • DrewBear2

    You have better data sources than I if you can separate his stats by his role. The overall data I see is his turnovers are offset by great assist numbers. Curry also has pretty high turnover numbers offset by even better assist (& steals) numbers.

  • zxcvb

    Seems extremely unlikely, but if that happens, it would be a sign that something has changed.

    Even so, I would gladly take 4y/60M from the Nets over Houston. Any team with Morey and Harden is a cancer waiting to happen. Rox had their chance and did everything to hold him back. If Lin ends up in Houston, it’s because he has no other offers to start.

  • zxcvb

    Even if Rose stays healthy, he can’t fix the Knicks. They’re a lost cause as long as they build around Melo with Dolan chasing past-their-prime “stars.”

  • sport

    Maybe Rose and Phil Jackson can kick out Melo 🙂

  • casual bb fan

    IMO taking Nets 4yr/60M is way better than Roxkets 2yr/40M even with the 2nd year player’s option. Houston fan base is too toxic even with Harden traded . Most importantly Morey need to go for a change of culture in Houston. Haha

  • CJSHYY
  • casual bb fan

    IMO they need a quarterback in the like of a Lin to start the ball rolling. Haha

  • CJSHYY

    I think that sure is on PJ’s wishing list. LOL!

  • pero_square

    Same. I still watch his 2010-2011 highlight reels every once in a while. Dude was dominating. He was supposed to bring greatness back to Chi-Town.

  • hchao

    It appears the two previous posts were deleted already. Let me try one more time:
    There are more teams (probably a lot more) that are interested in Lin than people thought. Lin revealed (in Chinese) in a Beijing Leshi interview: “Now there are many opportunities (for me) to join different teams.” (starting at 49:30 in the following video llink)

  • hchao

    This is absurd: the video link cannot be posted–because it was included in two previous posts which were erroneously detected by discus as spams and automatically went into spam list.

  • Rick Johnson

    JLin is a lot of things: PG, SG, defensive guard, creator, floor general, team leader, force multiplier, team pastor.

  • CJSHYY

    Can you write something different along w the link? That normally will work.

  • Rick Johnson

    Melo and Rose two iso heavy volume shooting prima dona’s. This should be interesting. Poor forever suffering Knicks fans.

  • hchao

    zip

  • lleepar

    I can’t tell you what is going on, but I saw your message and copied it, in case it disappeared again.

    You said: “There are more teams (probably a lot more) that are interested in Lin than people thought. Lin revealed (in Chinese) in a Beijing Leshi interview: “Now there are many opportunities (for me) to join different teams.” (starting at 49:30 in the following video link)”

    https://youtu.be/8O0kDDYUF7A?t=2966

  • hchao

    They can assemble a decent roster if using their cap space wisely with FA.

  • freemind

    and he followed that with ” find a team and stay in it for 3-4 years”

    lol also think the female interviewer has big time crush on Lin trying to stay cool and calm. 🙂

  • aras

    where will lin go hmm. i hope wherever he goes hegoes in with a me first mentality.if its not the spurs

  • blueCypher

    Wish there are subtitles for this segment

  • DX

    During the interview, Lin said he want to find a team which can stay 3, 4 years.

  • Rick James

    lol, he really struggles with his chinese

  • CJSHYY

    Lots of rumors looks like real…. I start to doubt about Rox wants to trade PB….

    https://twitter.com/HoopsonFOX/status/746479436497723392

  • CJSHYY

    I never contact him but I can post your question to psalm in case your post get del again.

  • CJSHYY

    Psalm, Can you help him…? Hchao

    my post was marked as “waiting for JLinPortal’s approval.” And then a few minutes later after I hit “Sort by Newest,” that entire thread was gone. I only started to post in jlinportal.com less than two months ago, and I’m not familiar with how mod operates here.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    nobody talks about Rose’s defense. i’ve watched him play, and yes, it’s worst than James Harden

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Well, you may be right, and I would rather Lin stay away from Rockets if he has better option, but if he does not (ie: no starting role available) I would rather him join Houston or be a back-up in Houston than anywhere else because it offers him the most minutes there.

    Also, James is their franchise player so I don’t see them promising Lin they’d trade James since no one around the league views Lin in higher regard than James.

  • lleepar

    I re-posted your original comments and the video down below so they wouldn’t disappear again. I’m sorry you’re having problems, bit Disqus has ramdomly objected to a few of my posts in the past. Luckily, it’s not a frequent occurrance, but it’s frustrating when it happens.

  • ProLin

    The Net’s Spur-Lite. People who want to see JLin with the Spurs should be very happy if he ended up with the Nets.

  • Jamie

    12hours laler
    Jimmy Butler has been traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves in a trade involving 3 teams

  • ProLin

    I am starting to think he really is not into looking getting a few Max player, but quite a few quality players who might be under utilized like Lin. We’ll see…

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    so, is he a Nets yet?

  • ProLin

    Well they kept Brook who is a quality big-man good with pnr. Lin should make him exceptional. They drafted a SG who can shoot the 3 – that’ll be key for Lin’s kick-outs. Chris McCullough, a very promising 6-11 power forward will be the starter and might benefit from Lin as well. Rondae Jaquan Hollis-Jefferson, another 1st round rookie from last year, is growing to be a defensive presence. If Lin does his job he can really take this team of young players to place.

  • DrewBear2

    Really. All he said was they haven’t received an offer they like enough. What’s the old saying? Everyone has a price?

  • kittyhead

    Be patient! 7/1 is around the corner!

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    but i can’t wait to light my fireworks to celebrate Lindependence Day 🙂

  • BobbyH

    They can instantly find hope in Nets. Switch over is just a matter off switching channels and cross-river subways. And it is closer from Long Island.

  • DrewBear2

    Their record was 21-61. What else could he say? “I know we didn’t do well last season, but I think a couple of tweaks here and there should get us into the playoffs next year.”

  • casual bb fan

    Good observations. IMO Nets have been doing the right thing in anticipation of getting lucky and have a point guard of Lin’s caliber coming on board this FA as the engine to get the team humming at the optimum level to be a contender. Haha

  • CJSHYY

    Got the video. Start from 49 min.. he looked happy hope it’s not Rox.

    Jeremy Lin 林書豪做客樂視體育錄播 炫髮型秀球技寄語周

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    funny thing cus Atkinson said the same thing about needing a quarterback

  • Ben Johnson

    Pretty much definitive evidence that JLin most certainly does not want to return to the Hornets

  • psalm234

    Make sure you keep checking the LinterNets everyday for breaking news :]

  • hchao

    Ileepar, thanks for your kind help. Yes indeed it’s pretty frustrating when you’re dealing with machines + bits&bytes–cannot argue and reason with them. Ha.

  • psalm234

    hm, I don’t see anything put in pending by Disqus software anymore.
    Perhaps other mods free them up already

  • hchao

    Thanks, CJSHYY.

  • psalm234

    I added you to the Trusted list. Hopefully Disqus won’t put the posts in pending automatically.
    If you edit repeatedly or make multiple posts simultaneously, Disqus can mistakenly think you’re a spambot user

  • ProLin

    notice since the opt out, he wore virtually no clothing with the colors of all his former teams?

  • Jason

    According to a poster’s friend on the Nets subreddit, the coach is “Pushing hard for Jeremy Lin”. I am posting the link, but please do no go there and comment on Lin. It’s not a Lin site and some Lin fans are just awful on those subreddits. Providing stats to counter poor defense narratives…that might be okay, but don’t overdo it!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GoNets/comments/4pr5tg/interesting_conversation_a_friend_had_with_nets/

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i hope checking the Linterwebs everyday will net me good results

  • Dan Ang

    Comments have been entertaining lately.

  • ProLin

    just remove the reddit link… u know the trolls will go there and start stuff.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    you go Atkinson!

  • freemind

    this FA is getting Lintriguing leading into a Linteresting month . next season will be Lindomitable with Linsurgent of Linsanity 😉

  • freemind

    yea i noticed all the posters (Adidas,Tag) and even in this video, his jersey colors were changed or former team reference photoshop out 🙂

  • ProLin

    But if this is true, it looks like they are looking at Durant at Max. I think, if KD trusts JLin’s game, which I personally think make the team better than WB’s play, then he might consider it given that NY is a large market team and if Nets go nuts with Linsanity 2.0 and start winning, Brad Silver might allow the Nets to eventually win something more than first round. However, I really think KD is looking for a ring NEXT YEAR so Dubs is more like his destination. I don’t think he’ll come to the Nets.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i have a feeLin some guy like Nathan Gotlieb, Alan Hahn, or Robin Lundberg is the poster’s friend who talks to Atkinson

  • ProLin

    yeah really, whatever GM says now in public is just complete BS. They are fighting with a lot of other GMs out there for talent. They’re not giving their cards away on a interview.

  • CJSHYY

    I think KD only will consider GSW, Spurs, & OKC. He wants to get the ring now.

  • CJSHYY

    Alan Hahn is more likely….

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i guess he’s trying to get use to the dull colors. imo, it looks great on him

  • kittyhead

    https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/746542451301613570
    I dont think the Nets have any chance to get KD.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it’s such a great idea for Atkinson to push hard for Lin because Lin will give him a discount so that he can go after KD. instant success! just start Lin at the PG for 35+ minutes

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! He wants the ring next season.

  • CJSHYY

    No discount from Lin again. Nets has lots of money.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    😂 nicely done!

  • ProLin

    yeah there won’t be any. Nets might not be able to spend all their cap space this year in fact.

  • ProLin

    even though this is reddit rumor, it sure is a nice feeling to hear Atkinson is actively trying to get Lin in the house.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    enough for no-discount Lin and max KD?

  • DX

    Hope this is true, at least Lin has one starting offer now.

  • psalm234

    perfect for Mr. Lincredible! :>

  • ProLin

    a LOT of black and white clothing… hmmm.. what team uses black and white as their primary color… hmmmm…

  • Lin Dunn

    KD is definitely looking for a ring. Of course the Nets may dream.

  • ProLin

    yeah, I think KD is out of Net’s league. Plus, just for JLin’s sake, it’s probably not a good idea to have a huge super-star enter a team with him AT THE SAME TIME. That is what happened to the Rockets. Let Lin lead a team of scrubs and rookies and see how far he can go with it, and then add pieces which complements that. Max FAs can come later.

  • kittyhead

    If they want to trade Lopez, maybe trading for Tyson and ED will be great. lol

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    ED please! Tyson is great but kinda old

  • Lin Dunn

    I don’t want the rest of Lin’s team to be scrubs and rook. If that be the case 76ers fit your wish better.

  • ProLin

    yeah looks like Tyson really wants to get out of the West. I think he’ll come to the Nets if they gave him a good offer. He’s not that attractive of a FA to other teams but we know he works with Lin really really well.

  • ProLin

    old but good vet prescience for this first year Lin’s Nets. Almost all of the remaining assets besides brooks are rookies or second year 1st rounders.

  • kittyhead

    KD doesnt need to handle the ball, so he would be a great teammate for Lin. However, there is little chance he will come to the Nets this year.

  • Lin Dunn

    If they are trading Lopez, then they are getting rid of all their best players, are they tanking?

  • ProLin

    Not necessarily. You can try to win with a bunch of young folks. Winning is an attitude; as long as they WANTS Lin they know Lin is anti-tank. We know how much he wanted to lead his crappy second team Lakers to win all the time. The Nets sign Lin, they are not tanking.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i just love the chemistry between Lin and ED on offense and defense pnr. ED recovers so nicely to swat away layup attempts

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. KD will sign for OKC for 2 years with player’s option in 2nd year and wait for an eastern team other than Cavs to be good enough for him to join nx year if he can’t get out of WC this year. Haha

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i just remember something. the Nets have Ellington. so Lin, ED, and Ellington would be great. they were dominating as the Lakers bench force a year ago

  • CJSHYY
  • casual bb fan

    Good suggestion there. Ghost bloggers with vested interest are everywhere these days. Haha

  • hchao

    Actually he’s been wearing mostly Nets colors throughout his entire China tour, except for promotional events where he needed to wear bright colors.

  • casual bb fan

    Great idea and observation. Perfect scenario for a player of Lin’s caliber but never having the opportunity to play freely without a diva or ball hog in his team accept the two weeks of Linsanity and odd accasions of starting when the divas are out injured. And he has proven himself beyond any doubts on each of such scenerio his real superstar quality as a 5 on 5 basketballer. Haha

  • ProLin

    Is Ed Davis FA this year?

  • ProLin

    yup… black and white in Iceland too.

  • Barry Allen

    Lin will make Durant so much better compared to Westbrook.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no. we’re just entertaining the idea of a trade

  • hchao

    If that’s the case, my repost was deleted by other mods. I guess some mods were probably simply doing a delete automatically on anything pending approval, even though in my case I’ve tried frustratedly to get attention with no avail until just now.

  • ProLin

    no, Sixers doesn’t have Atkinson and the Spurs system. Plus we are not even sure if the Sixers are out of tanking mode yet.

  • hchao

    Thanks for your help–hopefully this frustration will not happen for me again.

  • ProLin

    Plus, a team-oriented allstar who’s not a ball hog is not that easy to find, and most of them are on the Spurs. Let them take their time.

  • ProLin

    ah, I see… yeah if that’s happening, meaning if they are trading to complement Lin, it will only happen if Lin is signed and confirmed starter. Might happen rather quickly after July 1st too. It’s plausible.

  • zxcvb

    There have been some legit random internet leaks in recent years, but this is too shaky to take seriously right now.

    I will say that the part about trading/upgrading Lopez matches what Marks was asked about Lopez last night: “We’ll just see where it all goes.” He said similar things about Young before he was traded.

    I don’t think KD is going anywhere and if he does, then it won’t be Brooklyn. But there’s a lot of speculation KD will sign a 1+1 and hit free agency next year, so maybe they want to establish a relationship now just in case.

  • zxcvb

    They don’t have picks to tank. None of their 1st rd picks until 2019. This is a huge reason to want Lin in Brooklyn. They can’t tank right now…no reason to lose on purpose like the Lakers.

  • ProLin

    I just want to share something I’ve been thinking for months. JLin as you know, is a smart guy. He’s not only a pro-NBA player but a near pro DOTA2 player, and any real gamer can tell you, Dota2 is fracking HARD. Takes months to even know what’s going on, takes years to git gud. Needs hours of dedicated studying and practicing.

    This means JLin is spending hours and hours of his free time not partying or rubbing hookers, but in front of a computer. Gamers tend to have 2 or more monitors, one or two playing the game while one is free for youtube and news, etc. This means, he’s reading everything out there on the internet about himself; Reddit, sports forums, and of course. HIS OWN FANSITES.

    Now I can see how he would be saying a lot of WTF to himself reading the other famous JLin site, but here, this is a nice place where most user are like me, Nice and Sane ™. Good discussions can be had and people don’t rip on each other over mundane things or personal disagreement. This means, given that JLin is a person who is loyal to those who are loyal to him, HE IS ABSOLUTELY READING THIS SITE.

    So, the things you are suggesting to him, I’m sure it will reach him. Think about that the next time you’re commenting something useful; JLin just might be listening.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    The only possible way the Nets can upgrate on Lopez directly is to trade him for Demarcus Cousin…I see no other way.

    Lopez is a top scoring center and the only guy higher than him that is getteable is Cousin…I’m sure Cousin would probably love to leave the Kings for New York.

  • psalm234

    actually, I found them in the Spam folder so I freed them.
    Sorry, mods are sometimes not available due to work/family/obligations

    Yes, you tried the right thing to have another post.
    Sometimes Disqus software can act up so we just have to work around it as much as possible

  • casual bb fan

    IMO you must be joking knowing that DMC has been consider by many as a diva and temperamental and would not meet the high character prerequisite of the Nets FO in building a new team culture. In this connection DMC to Nets is out of the equation. Before you suggest Rondo this opinion is applicable to him also. Haha

  • psalm234

    #TooFlagrantNotToCall 🙂
    Lin vs KIDS

    watch for Harden copycat under the basket
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BG_T46hocJS/

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    How is Lin’s Mandarin?..Is it very good…It is very clear for a madarin speaker?

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    Jeremy, if you’re listening, please sign with the Nets. also, rush Aghanim’s Scepter then Boots of Travel on Pugna, guaranteed win

  • Barry Allen

    That final takedown of Lin to the floor was hilarious. Very close to NBA reality!

  • adele

    Netssss🏀🏀🏀 super exciting!

  • adele

    Just praying that he will sign up with the team who truly believes in his brand of basketball. I won’t mind if Ed Davis will join with Lin in the nets. Maybe a trade might happen. Who knows?

  • sport

    Warriors probably not, Spurs has highest chance of getting KD unless he stays with Thunder. But if KD does join Warriors than their big 3 is complete.

  • sport

    To be fair they will make each other better because KD is huge offensive threat and also a 2-way and unselfish player. But I think Nets stands a chance, KD wants a ring, Spurs and Warriors fit that bill more.

  • sport

    MJ and Hornets don’t care they just want to prop up their fake star in Kemba just like Rockets are doing with Harden. I hope Lin does become starting PG with Nets and makes a huge blast next season. Then Hornets and other teams will look so dumb.

  • JLin fan from Australia
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  • Click Click

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I highly doubt Lin reads forums and fansites. He does have a reddit account and posts whenever he feels like it (which is very rarely). Lin has said before that he avoids reading anything about himself online, good or bad, because he gets too emotional. His friends might read stuff online and relay messages to Lin if it’s important enough for him to know about, but I doubt they’re frequent visitors, readers, and posters to message boards and forums.

  • Click Click

    I honestly wouldn’t put too much stock into internet or reddit rumors where somebody heard something from a friend of a family or whatever. As for subreddits, there is a subreddit dedicated to Lin news and discussion, so not all of the subreddits are antagonistic against Lin fans… /r/JLin7

  • Click Click

    The only NY team that has a chance (a very small chance) to land KD are the Knicks and that’s only because Melo is trying super hard to recruit / convince KD to play there. There’s no chance KD goes to the Nets.

  • Click Click

    He can understand Mandarin, but he’s not very fluent in speaking it. Like most Asian Americans, he adds English words in when he doesn’t know how to say something in Mandarin. He has to think a lot when he tries to speak Mandarin. It doesn’t come natural to him like English would.

    Lin studied Mandarin at Harvard and he also studies it from time to time now. Mandarin is a very difficult language to read and write, even if you’re Chinese or Taiwanese. If you want to speak it fluently, you have to speak it everyday with someone else that also speaks fluently.

  • Barry Allen

    If I were Lin, I wouldn’t bother either. Too many hate trolls and racists around. There is already enough racism and discriminism in the NBA for Lin to deal with.

  • Click Click

    To be fair, his main sponsor is Adidas and their colors are black and white. Yes, he’s been wearing a lot of black and white recently, which could be a sign he’s strongly considering the Nets, but it could also mean he’s just representing his sponsor’s colors.

  • Click Click

    Yeah I think it was his time in Houston when Lin decided not to read about himself on the internet and social media. He had to deal with so much blame from the Rockets’ media, coaching staff, and GM already, the internet trolls and haters made it much worse for him.

  • JLin fan from Australia

    Getting more and more excited each day as JLin’s Asia tour is almost done and FA will start in 5 days time:-) Hope and pray we will know the FACT soon after FA begins:-) Then all speculations are gone and deals with FACTS. Some may be happy and some may get angry…… As for me I will only begin to learn his NEW team/organization/coach…. and teammates when I know the FACT.

  • Spot

    That’s why we love him <3

  • Spot

    Hopefully it’ll be a coach and team who believe in him with good teammates.

  • Lin Dunn

    I think his inner circle read this site.

  • Lin Dunn

    Translation please?

  • Hope

    I hope he’s starting pg for nets. Oh, don’t go back to the stinking Housht town.

  • S.lintendo

    The most difficult challenge in life is to confront with other people’s stereotypes.

  • donsmacau

    “I have a long road left to walk, also much to learn and strive for. ” – JLIN

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks

  • donsmacau

    Yes these are old words but very relevant now:
    https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/223093429947740161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • David Kim

    After lin gets trade to lakers, he wore lakers hat…

    Lin wears black and gray colors even gray hat during china trip. And he showed us the basketball net picture before..

    Maybe he is trying to give us ( lin fans ) hint that he will joins nets??? LOL

  • KHuang

    I’m neither nice nor entirely sane – but I’d rather be RIGHT.

  • sws94

    I hope he doesn’t go to the Warriors. The Spurs could use him but does he fit their style of play? And of course, the Thunder could try to keep him, they have some good players from their trade.

  • KHuang

    Getting DMC would be a MASSIVE DOWNGRADE.

    He’s so toxic, it’s actually better to have a D League center.

  • KHuang

    One can call it that.

    It’s the 76ers scorched earth policy of getting rid of big contracts so that they can “leave the door open” for signing Lebron or Durant.

    The trouble is that free agents never want to join tanking teams because bad teams mess up players’ careers.

  • KHuang

    I would LOVE THAT.

    Lin can take a young pliant team and WIN.

  • sws94

    They could be considered Spurs colors too if one wants to match them to a team. He’s a Hornet on his Facebook and twitter, but that means nothing either. Lin is not sending any signs or giving hints where he’s going by how he’s dressed IMO. As you said, the colors are due to his association with Adidas.

  • Rick James

    LOL! Well, the other site is pretty bad sometimes. You get guys like Will Chang, bigman fatman, donsmacau, DD. Colin128–lets not forget SWS94 and Sir Charles who just fan the flames and then the site turns into a circus. An enjoyable circus but still a circus. But this place is equally wierd at times, with Khuang and Jeremiah17, adele and a few others. So yeah, its not like one site is more of a circus than the other, but the other site has more lunatics at the top.

  • BB Fan

    I believe they are the same person. lol

  • BB Fan

    For some strange reasons i feel that Lin is gonna join the Lakers, not Nets…in anycase, either one works well for me.

  • CJSHYY

    I used to think he will back to Lakers but not anymore bc Lakers FO is really a mess… they don’t have any real plan for their FA …?? Since super stars are not coming… they are so bad now no one wants to come.

  • KHuang

    You’re not only wrong, you’re also full of crap!

    I’m right about that too!

  • Rick James

    Luke Walton is protege of Steve Kerr. LA is close to where Lin lives, so its a good option for him, but I don’t think they want him. They are focusing on their draft pick and rebuilding.

  • KHuang

    “Weird” and “right” ALWAYS GO TOGETHER.

    For example, all Lin fans thought I was UTTERLY INSANE for saying that “Lin would have no trouble scoring in the playoffs against Hassan Whiteside.”.

    Then Lin goes out and posts HIGHER scoring numbers with the NBA’s #1 shotblocker in Whiteside on the court than with Whiteside off the court!

    Nobody has said a peep about that since until NOW.

  • sws94

    I don’t talk about other posters normally. If they give me garbage they get it back. I don’t want to be put in that group. I don’t put Sir Charles in that group much either.

    KHuang is a very outspoken, very knowledgeable poster and debates well. I love his posts.

  • Rick James

    actually, very few people thought Lin would have a hard time scoring on whiteside. I wasn’t one of them anyway. Still, lin surpassed my expectations, I knew he would play good, but not THAT good.

  • Rick James

    lol, its just my observations. I would include myself in that group but i’m biased, so who knows.

  • KHuang

    The Lakers?

    They’ve got two young “promising” (translation: selfish defenseless loserball stat padding) SCRUBS at PG in DeAngelo Russell and Jordan Clarkson who are considered “the future” and are starting.

    Then you have ex 6th man of the year (more “ex” than 6th man of the year) in Lou Williams who came off a bad season but is entrenched as the backup guard. And I haven’t even got to Mr. Ex Iggy Azalea aka Nick Young.

    The Lakers have a total logjam at the guard position. That’s a team Lin would likely stay as far away from as he could, given that he historically chooses teams based on whether or not he feels he can vault past the guards ahead of him on the roster.

  • KHuang

    Rick James, ALL Lin fans are “crazy” by modern NBA standards.

    NBA fans hate all of us because we don’t believe that Lin is a racially incompetent D league scrub with “gaping holes in defense” and “2 inches of pain” and “would rather get 30 points and 9 turnovers than win games” and “is no better than any no name college scrub”.

    How dare we Lin fans throw around STATS AND VIDEO to show that Lin can play, the haters argue.

  • donsmacau

    Rick James what disgraced poster are you really? Alain de Gervais? Webattorney?..who are ya?

  • sws94

    No, you’re not. The difference is you don’t go on about what a proper Lin fan is and are open to many ways fans can support Lin. The biggest problem here and there are people who think their idea of how to support Lin is the proper way and others who don’t, aren’t true Lin fans. And, they get personal in debates rather than just say they agree or disagree.

    I don’t think we should agree with each other. Makes for better reading.I also think that when one points out areas where Lin can improve, understand that is in the spirit of Lin raising his game, and not saying he’s not a good player. Derek Jeter, a future hall of fame baseball player, said when asked about his hot streak “I’m swinging the bat alright, but there’s always room for improvement”. That’s why he was great.

  • KHuang

    I got taunted pretty good for the Whiteside thing.

    I KNEW Lin would play that good.

    See, I knew that Lin had Whiteside figured out. I knew that Lin was going to get Whiteside all scrambled up mentally such that Whiteside wouldn’t know if Lin were coming or going. I also knew that Lin had the ELITE athleticism to challenge Whiteside directly at the rim and literally score at will.

    And thay’s exactly how it played out.

    The only reason Lin didn’t score 20+ ppg against Whiteside’s Heat every single game is because Steve Clifford was TERRIFIED of Lin winning the series and outplaying Walker and Batum.

  • sws94

    The haters are one thing, but venom toward each other on Lin sites is a problem.

  • donsmacau

    “I’m thinking of leaving Lin forums.” – sws94 – 46 days ago

  • KHuang

    You gotta sift the TRUE TROLLS from the actual Lin fans.

    The true trolls say things like this:

    “Lin cannot play shooting guard” or “Lin can only succeed as a point guard with the ball in his hands”.

    “Race is of no consequence in Lin’s career”.

    “You Lin fans know nothing about basketball”.

    “Lin is not aggressive enough”.

    “Lin is not as athletic as (insert any NBA All Star guard that Lin has OUTPLAYED)”

    “Do you even watch the NBA?”

    “You just started following the NBA recently because of Lin”.

    “You have multiple screennames”.

    “You are a (insert sexualized insult)”

    “Lin fans are delusional”

  • sws94

    I agree about Lin outplaying Walker to a degree, and I was hoping Lin would break through with Miami and Whiteside and was delighted he did. I think Clifford thinks Batum is more than he is. Much more. In terms of Walker, Lin, and Walker actually played well with each other in games 3 and 4. They were more like alternative forces on offense, Lin the much bigger factor on defense, and I agree with you somewhat that Cliff wanted Walker to be the force with Lin only a when-needed factor. But he tried to win with Batum in the end, and you called that right. It was a huge failure.

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED.

    Administration, you need to CLEAN THIS FORUM UP.

  • donsmacau

    Flagged

  • donsmacau

    You are right in your dreams.

  • KHuang

    I’m sick of all the HATE TROLLS coming on here to deliberately try to discredit this forum.

    I thought this forum was supposed to be a CLEAN place, free of personal attacks.

    Administration needs to get tougher and sstart BANNING know hate trolls like this donsmacau troll from
    Clutchfans that go from forum to forum spewing vile hate against Lin fans.

  • donsmacau

    Here’s a guy KHuang who believes JLIN will only get a job offer from Houston.

    How often have you been right this year with your prognostications? Prove it.

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED.

    Adminstration, you need to BAN THIS DONSMACAU TROLL.

    This dirty hate troll has utterly no respect for the community guidelines here.

    You need to get MUCH TOUGHER in banning stupid hate trolls like Donmacau who come here from other forums like clutchfans solely to fire endless hate against Lin fans and deliberately RUIN YOUR FORUM.

    This donmacau is a known troll like a Jeffrey Luddell or an Opentruth that finds it FUN to flame Lin fans and deliberately comes here to disrupt the forum.

    Maknusia and Psalm and other forum administrators, CLEAN UP YOUR MESS.

  • donsmacau

    You come after me and INITIATE every attack against me, you should know by now that you will receive pushback in spades

  • sws94

    That’s different from what I’m saying though. It’s the internal squabbling here that I think brings down the groups and have really good posters not here. We can all support Lin differently but equally, and frankly, there should be more flexibility on how Lin can play optimally. That’s all I’m for. Alternative ideas, whether the majority agrees with them or not, should be respected and welcome.

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED AGAIN.

    All of these hate trolls like donsmacau, Opentruth, and Jeffrey Luddell, they CYBERSTALK LIN FANS FOR FUN.

    They have one single goal: DISCREDIT ALL LIN FANS.

    Administration, ELIMINATE THIS CANCER FROM THIS BOARD.

  • donsmacau

    Flagged.

    What’s humorous is for any forum users who read this website, your lies are so blatant as to the nature of my posts that they are ridiculous and delusional – apt description.

  • KHuang

    Once you identify the TRUE trolls like donsmacau who do exactly ALL the behavior that I described above, then you can restrict “discussing” basketball with them and enjoy flame free discourse on ANY Lin forum.

  • sws94

    I agree, when a poster over and over starts badgering other posters on a personal level, please deal with that poster. When someone goes “you, you, you” rather than your point, or disagree with your stance, or something like that, it’s a red flag.

  • webattorney

    Good going Mod. Snide remarks about other posters — as this poster (not KHuang) does frequently here and at the other site — should not be tolerated. Somehow I knew he would end up getting banned from this site because the standard is higher here. Lol

  • sws94

    No one can deal with don. He dictates, not discusses. And he’s into pissing contests and trying to say his predictions are always right when nobody has any perfect record on predictions.

  • KHuang

    You talking about me?

    I’m not talking about you.

  • donsmacau

    Agree.

  • webattorney

    Not you KHuang. The guy who responded to you saying you are dreaming. He has a tendency to unnecessarily attack other posters personally rather than disagree. Therefore, I am in agreement with you.

  • donsmacau

    Good try web, a few more days and lets see where our bet goes

  • donsmacau

    Flagged

  • sws94

    You know, you posting that doesn’t flatter you. It shows you don’t understand what “thinking of” means. And this does nothing to help promote a more welcoming environment for posters. It’s just your usual tactic of going after a poster. Why you are allowed to do this with impunity is beyond me.

  • spiderman

    Scary black suit guys

  • KHuang

    Ok!

    sorry, I really didn’t mean to antagonize you. You’re the last person I want to mess with.

    I actually consider you my FRIEND – and a GOOD ONE by cyberstandards.

    You and I have fought in the past. But I respected you then and I REALLY respect you now. You know the NBA game and Lin’s career as well as anyone.

  • sws94

    Friends disagree and debate and it can get contested. But it doesn’t go over the edge. Both you and Web are quality posters IMO because you respect that.

  • webattorney

    I have my opinions on Lin and his BB game but I don’t go around attacking others or making snide remarks about other posters. Lol

  • sws94

    Absolutely.

  • sws94

    Scott went with Russell where he could have had Okafor or picked another player.

  • donsmacau

    Anyone who frequents this website knows that thou cohorts who repeatedly denigrate the wishes, dreams and desires that JLIN has verbalized are the posters who de-promote a welcoming environment for JLIN FANs.
    Regret that you can’t understand.

  • webattorney

    Only site I got banned from is CF site where I said many posters’ posts are racists and the OP should not allow them. So OP banned me. Lol

  • spiderman

    I foresee a difficult future for Harden-copycat…
    Or maybe he’ll get a max contract too

  • KHuang

    It’s a damn shame because so many of his posts are really knowledgeable.

    But then he starts firing constant personal flames and taunting Lin fans.

    Opentruth and Jeffrey Luddell also have many moments of clean basketball lucidity. But like donsmacau, they JUST CANNOT STOP FLAMING because they HATE LIN FANS.

  • Uh-Oh

    i m visiting jeremylin.net or jlinportal.com?

  • donsmacau

    Flagged again.

  • sws94

    It’s an honor to get banned from that horribly, ugly place. I think most Lin fans were banned from there. When Clutch couldn’t handle info that went against his terribly biased opinion on Lin, he’d ban them.

  • webattorney

    IMO Jeffrey Luddell is not a Lin fan. I believe donmacau guy is a Lin fan. However, IMO donmacau has a tendency to unnecessarily attack posters rather than disagree with the content.

  • donsmacau

    How many days do we have left on that other site Rick James?

  • Barry Allen

    Yeah that Jeffery Luddell is a troll 100%

  • sws94

    You just prove my points over and over. Have you ever once taken a different tone and said I’m not beyond criticism and I’ll listen to what some posters offer? Of course not, you’re the all-knowing don. You’re so full of yourself that you can’t be humble and admit when you come on too strong or concede a point someone else made that you didn’t agree with.

    Whatever, it’s a waste of time dealing with you. It’s always the same exercise in futility. It’s not up to me to deal with you, but you need to be dealt with in a very strong way IMO.

    This is what I mean by give me garbage. Did I come to don? No. He came to me. As usual. But I’m not taking his garbage, especially when I get no support from a mod saying cool it Don.

  • KHuang

    Good observation.

  • cdblue10

    I left the other site long time ago but it seems it’s beginning to turn that way

  • Barry Allen

    Those 2 aren’t even Lin fans. What they do is blatant, deliberate and inciteful.

  • KHuang

    He and I actually ALWAYS used to go over the edge against each other, but we’re way beyond that now.

    I respect his views as much as I respect yours.

  • KHuang

    STILL HATE TROLLING.

  • Barry Allen

    I doubt nets have a shot at KD too. But stranger things have happened I guess.

  • sws94

    Jeffrey probably is not a Lin fan, or a Lin fan that thinks most Lin fans are full of hyperbole about Lin’s ability. Sometimes, as KHuang said, he makes good posts. Other times, he seems to taunt fans. Anyway, don’t want to get too much into the other site. It’s the posters active here, including myself, who need to improve to realize psalm’s vision. But not only me. I’ll try to do my part to be a better poster and uphold the values of the site. But I won’t just sit back and be attacked by the clique that are obviously against some of the points I make and then make it personal against me.

  • Uh-Oh

    True. To set up is easy to maintain is hard. Like any real life business.

  • sws94

    I learn a lot from you. We can agree or disagree, but your passion about Lin is never in doubt. You know, it isn’t passion. It’s dictating to others how they should support Lin that I have a problem with.

  • Uh-Oh

    please go back to the net, with weattorney Rick James and sws94. They need you guys there.

  • KHuang

    I’ll bet that my adoration of Lin as the most fundamentally sound and team oriented WINNER in the NBA is more upsetting to Lin than the hate trolling is.

    Lin would be HORRIFIED if he read my adoring posts of his game.

  • sws94

    Don’t tell anyone what to do. You are very antagonistic and should be dealt with by the mods IMO. You don’t make this place better.

  • donsmacau

    Flagged.
    Unfortunately, your constant denigration of JLIN and your repeated whining to the Mods for respite lands you in the predicament that you find yourself in.

    You have shown a pattern of ill-will toward the dreams and desires of JLIN so often and then try to explain with retractions that you actually do support JLIN’s dreams — that is sounds to most fans of this site like the boy who cried wolf and is utterly devoid of credibility.

    This lack of credibility and hostility toward JLIN grant you little right to humble discourse – that is a bridge you’ve burned.

  • sws94

    I hope you get it together one day. But you have a long way to go.

  • KHuang

    Nah, I’ll stay here because YOU need me here!

  • sws94

    Yup.

  • webattorney

    No one needs anyone at any site.

  • KHuang

    Well, I myself now need Uh Oh on THIS site!

    I’ll make sure that I “satisfy” my need!

  • Uh-Oh

    I hope the mods can come sweep me and you.

  • KHuang

    Well, there are SOME good things about that other site.

    It’s not all negative over there.

  • Uh-Oh

    No. I love to see you at the net more.

  • Uh-Oh

    No. The net needs a clever attorney guy like you there.

  • Uh-Oh

    And I love to be sweep away if I can drag you down with me too.

  • sws94

    Have you read the rules on this site?

  • Uh-Oh

    No. You need someone clever like sws94, weattorney. They seem to visit the net frequently. So yea, go back there. Don’t leave them alone.

  • donsmacau

    There was a FLAME war started today and it was started by again KHuang who made an unprovoked attack on me as per usual – and any MODERATOR who goes back through the TIMELINE can ATTEST.

    It is unfortunate, but I will not take any personal specious attack or any unfounded attack on JLIN lying down and will give as good as a I get, posters should know that by now.

  • Uh-Oh

    Have you?

  • KHuang

    HATE TROLL FLAGGED.

    Had this troll not constantly started attacks including today, this forum would be clean.

  • KHuang

    I prefer to bother YOU.

    You are more fun to mess with.

    kissie

  • donsmacau

    Flagged again

  • KHuang

    Love is not jealous, love is not blind.

    You can enjoy me here and there, DOUBLE THE FUN!!!

  • KHuang

    You and I, we can get CLOSER before that happens!

  • Uh-Oh

    If you want to bother me at least be a fun person to bother me.
    But you are not.

  • KHuang

    He’s just realizing that when one starts a flame, the flame can burn the person that starts the fire.

  • Uh-Oh

    You got too much time. You turn me off.

  • KHuang

    I’ll just have to work on turning you ON, then!

    ooh

  • KHuang

    Oh, so ya like it ROUGH huh?

    I promise that I’ll make it fun for not just me, but BOTH OF US!

  • Uh-Oh

    Bye!

  • Uh-Oh

    You are not fun to even mention double fun.
    Bye!

  • KHuang

    This troll literally flamed like 6 people today on this forum.

  • cdblue10

    Mods you need to clean this place up,it’s turning up to be a messy place.

  • sws94

    Don’t be childish. I didn’t make the statement you made. This is what I mean by antagonistic. I’m done with you.

  • KHuang

    Yes he does – and so do I.

    Don’t go. Come back here and PLAY WITH US!!!

    kumbayah

  • donsmacau

    Go back through the timeline Moderators, the personal naming of posters names began NOT with me but with Rick James and his initial personal rant against me and others.

    Then KHuang as he has done repeatedly viciously and in an unprovoked manner attacked me when I questioned Rick James, that is the truth of story that KHuang attempts to obfuscate.

  • sws94

    I think people airing some things out is healthy and maybe will get us closer to psalm’s vision. I like psalm234. I disagree and agree with him like any other poster. But I agree with his wanting a positive place for Lin fans. And it’s a huge challenge. This may be part of the process.

  • donsmacau

    Flagged.
    Sycophantic flagging won’t help you. (go look up the word)

  • sws94

    Another tantrum. smh.

  • cdblue10

    Yes it’s good and healthy to post comments in a positive way as long as both parties are respecting their POV’s but if the other poster tends to view his opinion as the absolute expectation then what’s fun of putting up your own view points.

  • KHuang

    Fortunately for you and me and everyone here, Administration indeed is cleaning this place up.

    I’m OK with them doing whatever it takes to run a clean forum – including BANNING.

  • donsmacau

    Since when is flagged a tantrum? don’t I need to hit a minimum number of words before it could be construed as a tantrum? Definition of Tantrum — …

  • KHuang

    This is an INTERNET forum where EVERYONE has absolute views – you too.

    We can violently disagree and not hate or flame each other.

  • Rick James

    yep, i think its getting a little crazier with lins UFA coming up in 5 days. Pretty excited to be honest.

  • sws94

    I agree. The hard part is to recognize if and when you do it yourself. When I’m guilty of it, then I need to refrain from it and listen to people when it is pointed out. I’ll start with me. I just hope that posters can recognize when it is pointed out to them and they recognize a collective spirit to the site and adjust accordingly so we could start the process. This site has potential. And good times when things are ok. But then there are other times when things degrade.

  • ProLin

    We all know that. My point is he himself is doing it too.

  • donsmacau

    Agree, if posters don’t want trouble, then they shouldn’t seek trouble.

  • Peter Truong From Riverside CA
  • ProLin

    yes I know what he said, I’m telling u that hours and hours in front of a computer and not reading anything about yourself is nearly impossible. He wanted us to think that because he doesn’t want to pressure any poster into thinking they need to post to suck up to him. Plus he really said that during the sad days of Houston and almost everything was negative. No doubt the emotional part came from reading the drivel on crotchyfans. Due to the nature of THIS particular site, I’m saying he will be more inclined to read it, versus the other disqus site where you still see nearly insane “fans” suggesting he should be backup for life or that his “Asian-ness” is making him mentally weak. He reads reddit be too; posting rarely but sure as h*** reading it.

  • donsmacau

    There is your new backup PG to Parker or Mills, finally we can dismiss with all the fantasizing about JLIN to Spurs.

  • cdblue10

    We both have disagreements in the past but I found it witty and entertaining since we focus only on basketball and doesn’t take it personally after the discussions.However few people here take it as a trophy to think that they know everything about basketball,it’s just sad that a good place like this is turning out to be a nightmare for most of the good posters.

  • Peter Truong From Riverside CA

    Yep

  • ProLin

    Well I think very few people can successfully win an NBA argument against you. 🙂 The difference here is, if you cross the line here making your point, or battling in another Linfan war of personality, the mod here will delete it. They don’t seem to care that much on other sites. This is a warm and welcoming place, and my argument is that this will tend to make Lin want to read it since there is just less negativity and pure insanity here.

  • KHuang

    It’s YOU that has a problem with others here.

    If you stop thinking that you are being antagonized just because Lin fans are knowledgeable about the game, you’ll find yourself having no problems with anyon here.

    You know the game very well too. If you don’t agree with me or anybody else on our basketball or even personal views, STAND UP AND FIGHT! I enjoy your posts, and your views are as respected as mine or anyone else’s here.

  • ProLin

    Phew, I thought you were talking about me… hahaha 嚇我一跳

  • ProLin

    I would not want to mess with an attorney too.. LOL

  • KHuang

    Until the free agency deadline hits, none of us know where Lin is going.

    We all have strong suspicions backed up by good solid data. But in the end, things often turn out wildly differently from what we think. And that’s truer for Lin than any orher NBA player.

  • ProLin

    there are a lot of people from the other site who are probably bonafide Lin fans but post crazy, negative things about Lin all the time.

  • ProLin

    well I see my post has somehow started another Linfan war… mod please do your thing.

  • cdblue10

    This place is not an ARENA where you asked people to STAND UP AND FIGHT,this is a place where fans want to enjoy about the NBA in general and about Lin.I don’t have a problem with other posters here,I just can’t stand people who thinks their ideas are the acceptable and rightful POV of this forum.

  • ProLin

    Well, Lin is Asian, and he’s loyal to his real fans, especially those who are still with him after all these years. He will like to see how people think about this decisions. Once he was having problem controlling his emotions because he was a kid. I believe he’s mature enough now to ignore the trolls. However, there are less trollish posts here because the mod is very proactive. The whole reason this site is created was due to the fact that the other site’s mod allow trolls to engage insane fights. If this place maintain its standards, yes I think Lin will read it.

  • ProLin

    That was over 2 years ago. He’s not a kid anymore.

  • ProLin

    I have a feeling everyone who could have told him to join the Nets, LOL…

  • KHuang

    Nobody here is claiming that they are the only view here, not even the trolls.

    ONLY YOU are claiming that you people are doing this.

    The nature of basketball is that there are many viewpoints. The nature of a Internet discussion forum is that people DO NOT agree and that results in HEALTHY COMBAT. It’s just something that you’ll have to live with.

  • psalm234

    @NBAIndia likes to promote Lin’s huge playoff contribution before July 1 FA deadline

    @NBAIndia
    .@JLin7 led @Hornets to their first playoff win in 14 years this season.
    https://twitter.com/NBAIndia/status/746675162917965824

  • sws94

    Absolutely. And if Lin is thinking next team 3-4 years, then he’s tired of moving from team to team and wants to commit for the long run and from his physical prime to a bit after. That’s a big decision. But I think he could still go with nothing works for me and do a 1-year with options as well.

    He could go anywhere. I have no front-runner at this point. Many on the site do, but I don’t.

  • psalm234

    @KatieElizShaf
    I’m watching a documentary about Jeremy Lin and crying over it. What is wrong with me?
    https://twitter.com/KatieElizShaf/status/746446581478604804

  • KHuang

    I post “Rockets or bust”, but that’s not necessarily how it’s going to go down.

    I have NO IDEA who intends to offer Lin a contract – and I’ll bet Lin doesn’t either.

  • donsmacau

    Allow me to correct Rick Bonnell on one small error : JLIN Chances of a return: 0.004 percent.

    Handicapping the chance of Hornets re-signing 5 key free agents
    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article85959417.html
    “Point guard Jeremy Lin

    Circumstance: Lin was great for the Hornets in general and Walker in particular. He proved physically strong enough to defend shooting guards and the Hornets often played Walker and Lin together down the stretch of close games. He has a knack for getting to the foul line that proved valuable in the seven-game playoff series against the Heat.

    Impression: Like Batum, Lin improved the Hornets’ ballhandling and ball movement. He wasn’t a great 3-point shooter at 33.6 percent, but his drives to the rim were key in this team’s half-court offense.

    Chances of a return: 40 percent. As well as Lin played, it was a foregone conclusion he’d opt out of next season on his contract to become a free agent. Lin said he enjoyed his first season in Charlotte and that money wouldn’t be the single biggest factor in where he signs. But if a team like the Nets tells him he’d start there, at a considerable raise in salary, might that not be too tempting to turn down?”

  • KHuang

    Hrhmph, now she knows how DISCRIMINATION works against Asian Americans in the 21st century.

  • KHuang

    I NEVER feel as if I “win” arguments here or anywhere about the NBA.

    It’s not about winning or losing arguments. It’s about seeing different viewpoints.

  • PPP

    What happened?

  • SeaKing33

    Off Topic: Where can I buy Jlin basketball shoes

  • KHuang

    Tons of FLAMING.

    It’s STILL going on.

  • sws94

    What is the scenario one envisions with their choice? Like say, if it is the Nets, what do you envision will happen during the course of the season?

    Now, if it is the Nets, the personnel is unknown. And, I mean specifically. Not Lin is a starting PG. That’s a given. But, what happens. And I don’t mean he leads a team to the playoffs. I mean, how does it work out for him. What type of plays and ways do you think things will manifest. Specific stuff like that. Not even specific players, but types of players that work well with Lin perhaps. Because it is impossible to predict specific players going to the Nets at this juncture.

    I think, if Lin goes with Atkinson, he’s starting PG and gets minutes. I think, though, Lin may find a designated 2nd guy to run plays and still go into the corner and direct traffic at times because I think that’s how he plays now. I think Lin will still put a lot into his defensive play because he wants to. I hope that Lin would have players that run so he can through his exciting lobs to from any part of the court or great no-look passes. I hope that he would have a PnR center that could finish and make FTs. That being said, Lin will have his ultra-agressive moments where he just puts his stamp on the game. I hope to see more of those periods of play, as much as his body can stand.

    In general, I hope for that scenario for any team however. That Lin has those types of players with him whatever position he ends up in that puts him on the court long enough to do these things. I miss the open-court stuff that we used to see in NY and Houston and not much in LA and Charlotte. And I think Lin’s jumper will improve, but I hope he finds more of a mid-range game to open up his dribble/drive as well as deal with the big men take charges defenses that are sometimes used against him.

    But back to a basic that Lin has stated over and over. He needs to be healthy. Relatively injury-free as he was last season (although he did have the ankle issue and played too much on it last season as well as some back issues and maybe an elbow issue).

  • cdblue10

    This is not a COMBAT,this is a forum where fans wants to enjoy and have some entertainment during their free time.

  • sws94

    Totally agree. I have no idea who will offer Lin what or what Lin plans to do with those offers. I’m almost totally clueless.

  • sws94

    Your intent was positive and pure, whether one agrees that Lin is aware or seeks out what is posted here or not. It was a fine post IMO.

  • donsmacau

    Nets with JLIN as lead playmaker take the Nets to a 40 win season and a playoff appearance. Anyone who has followed JLIN’s career knows that his pastime hobby is to take enthusiastic, nameless/faceless scrubs, 15-20 non-stars have had career stats when playing with JLIN and turns them into a well-oiled TEAM on both ends of the floor they play harder when JLIN leads.

    Hornets on the other hand will collapse especially on the second (2nd) unit and miss the playoffs badly under KemBatum and potentially even deciding to tank the season.

  • adele

    We can only pray with Jlin for Gods guidance and blessing to be with a team that will treat him as a franchise player and a potential star. Then we can be happy except the haters🏀😉

  • sws94

    I think he’s moved even further away from what a lot of players call “noise”. Places like the internet forums and comments on social media. His controlled Q&As he interacts with fans.

  • adele

    Hornets is history🏀

  • Click Click

    I transcribed the Jeremy Lin interview he had yesterday on a Beijing show for Lin fans to read, since it was all in Mandarin…

    http://pastebin.com/5dNzsLat

    https://www.reddit.com/r/JLin7/comments/4ptelm/transcript_of_very_insightful_jeremy_lin/

  • Jamie

    lol wth r u

  • KHuang

    No matter what NBA team Lin lands on, he’ll be playing a lot of 2 guard off the ball on both ends of the court.

    Today’s NBA guards lack fundamentals to cut and screen as traditional two guards. And those who can usually lack the raw athleticism to pull it off at the NBA level. But Lin has both the athleticism AND the fundamentals.

    Every NBA team is overcrowded with perimeter ballhogs that are clueless and incapable off the ball, and those players are not just guards anymore.

    For any halfcourt offense to run properly, the 2 guard has to create motion off the ball. Lin does that better than anybody in the NBA. So even if Lin starts at PG, expect to see him playing the bulk of his minutes at SG against All Star SGs.

    Lin fans need to understand that I’m not talking about Lin standing frozen out in a corner. That’s not 1 or 2 guard, that’s being a ZERO guard.

    What I’m talking about is Lin cutting and moving and having plays run for him the way a traditional 2 guard would. Done right, Lin would easily average over 20 ppg as a starting SG in the NBA.

  • donsmacau

    Wow, that is some sort of yeoman effort. It was so long that I couldn’t even sit and LISTEN to it much less conceive of how long it must have taken to transcribe it – you must have a bunch of little Asian Oscars accountants working in your transcribing office.

  • donsmacau

    There are perhaps 20 – SGs (2 guards) that are as good or better than JLIN in the NBA.
    There are fewer than 5 – PGs (1 guards) that I would trust with the ball in their playmaking hands more than JLIN. It is like asking JLIN to play with a cast on his leg, if you have the option of playing JLIN at the 1 and instead play him at the 2.

  • Click Click

    Nope, just myself. Took about 4 hours.

  • KHuang

    It’s FRIENDLY combat.

    All discussion forums are of this nature.

    Not my rule. It just is.

  • donsmacau

    You deserve a gold medal.

  • sws94

    I agree. I mean, it’s not for me to decide how anyone should watch basketball or what to expect, just that the way things happened in 2012 I don’t think will be repeated in 2016-17. I agree with you. Lin may certainly be used as a 2 guard to cut, used for his D, used for his ability to draw fouls, and other aspects of his game rather than be ball-dominant. So, I’m prepared for that. If he is more ball-dominant that I expect, fantastic! I come in with tempered expectations of how coaches will use Lin. And that includes Atkinson and even D’Antoni should he end up on the Nets or Rockets.

    Also agree corner guard is zero guard. That’s what I mean by involvement. If he starts and is a corner guard, that’s a zero guard and his starting is negated.

  • psalm234

    Thanks for all the hard work!

    – US Fans need to surprise him in LAX airport like @LAJane:disqus once did!
    Maybe he will give them hugs and FA hints 🙂
    “Every year when I arrive at the airport they all come welcome me and receive me. When I get back to America, no fan will come to the airport to welcome me back” (laughs)

  • Jamie

    I thought JJ reddict was moving pretty well
    Lamb here and there

    Also, that’s probably because how they played basketball growing up
    Guys like Lin, Reddick or even Hayward played organized basketball in the AAU or whatever and they know where to be and how to cut, whereas the athletic players or so called star players like Russell Westbrook, DeRosan, Kevin Durant, Kemba walker did not have to play any teamball. Their goal was to show off their skills fancy dribbling skills and play well to get scouted not for team to win and they were talented enough to win some when they were young playing selfish.

  • KHuang

    Instead of taunting your hard work as having been “done by little Asian Oscars accountants”, I’ll offer up a sincere compliment at your effort.

  • sws94

    Good points. Good post.

  • sws94

    Thank you very much.

  • KHuang

    Redick and Lamb are NOT ELITE in raw strength and speed.

    They can’t shake defenders off the ball like Lin can.

    Even when opponents send help at Lin off the ball, he’s so athletic and so fundamentally sound that he siphons defenses away from the ball. And that’s why all coaches play Lin despite hating him – Lin opens up the court for the other four teammates.

  • Jamie

    I didn’t say they were elite but reddick is not that bad
    I don’t remember Lin cutting too much he was usually playing corner guard

  • psalm234

    This last line is so touching.
    Mama Lin is very loving!

    1:03:17 – “Of course my mom takes care of us more. We also take care of our mom. We’re making money now, so we’re taking care of our parents. Most of the time, mom cooks the food. She really loves us. She asks us everyday if she could help us sort out our luggage, cook, or shop for groceries.”

  • donsmacau

    Combo Guard, I don’t have any issue with the definition in and of itself “Combo-Guard” which means a guard can play both the PG and SG position, There are a few good combo guards in the NBA and some who are forced into a combo role because
    a) the team is deficient (e.g. Kemba) in playmaking prowess
    b) the player is deficient in playmaking prowess (also Kemba but others too)
    c) see below:

    For me, I find that on some fansites when speaking about JLIN as a Combo, especially Hornets team fansites and other posters enamored with the notion of JLIN as a hybrid guard 1.5 or Zero — oftentimes “combo-guard” is used to justify JLIN coming off the bench” because why?

    Because if you are a combo guard you almost always do NOT have the STARTING job otherwise you are the PG or SG, you rarely (though there are a small handful of teams) see a backcourt for NBA teams without a designated 1 and 2 guard.

    When you hear Combo-Guard associated with JLIN; you are hearing 6th Man Bench Scrub

  • donsmacau

    Click, was I “taunting” you?

    Or was a making a humorous allusion to the Oscars where the Host perpetrated a racist Asian attack on the Asian community where even JLIN noticed and was on of the first Asian celebrities to speak up?

  • KHuang

    On Redick, I’m in total agreement with you.

    Were he stronger and faster, he’d be far more effective. He’d be pretty similar to Lin.

    Lin did a ton of cutting, both on the sidelines as flare V cuts and along the baseline as flex cuts. He tried to not limit himself to the corner, though often that was the only option if Batum and Walker were hogging their side of the court in order to freeze Lin out.

    In the playoffs, the Heat sent their best defenders at Lin to contain him off the ball. All of those defenders FAILED, even when they sent big men to bump Lin off his cuts.

  • sws94

    Lin does not move as much as Redick. Not sure about Lamb, he’s not as developed a player as Redick or Lin. Lin had a lot of cuts with Charlotte and did them from time to time. He moved well off the ball at times, at other times others seem designated to move with Lin spacing the floor and directing traffic from the corner at times.

  • sws94

    For the most part, they failed except late in one of those games where they trapped him at the baseline. However, they fouled him too and the fouls weren’t called. Maybe due to Miami’s whining about fouls he was getting earlier in the playoffs.

  • 22cents

    LAX? Ha Ha. Forget it. You will run into a lot of security issues. The driveway in the LAX is just horrible ALL THE TIME.

  • sws94

    LAJane, yeah!

  • Jamie

    Yah but overall he was not well used

  • Jamie

    yep thats the thing. Batum and Kemba hogged the ball for much.
    More reason for Lin not to return

  • sport

    Thunders just need a legit play making PG to be great. Moving Westbrook to SG will solve their problems. Of course that won’t happen unless KD requests that to be done and Westbrook agrees to let go of ball handling duties.

  • Click Click

    That’s not a backup PG. That’s the Spurs’ D-League project.

    Spurs know they need an actual NBA-ready PG to either start in the place of Parker or back him up. Everybody saw how Parker and the Spurs were exposed during the playoffs because Parker can no longer slash into the paint like he used to. Guess who can? Jeremy Lin.

  • JoeTeam

    I agree, good Post. Only, Rondo with near zero offense himself will probably get a K before JLin because of the positive attribution he receives.

    Happy summer, KHuang. See you from time-to-time.