2016 Brooklyn Nets Roster & Free Agency Moves

Let’s focus the discussion on Brooklyn Nets roster moves in this thread

2016 Nets Roster Moves timeline

(credit to @DrewBear2)

Feb. 18: Sean Marks, GM. Nets are 14-40 at this point.
Starters: Brook, Thad (team captain), Joe Johnson, Ellington, Sloan.
Bench: Shane Larkin, Markel Brown, Thomas Robinson, Bojan Bogdanovic, Chris McCullough, Sergey Karasev, Willie Reed and Andrea Bargnani.

Feb. 20-25: Waived Andrea Bargnani and Joe Johnson.

Apr. 17: Kenny Atkinson, Head Coach

Jun. 23: Traded Thaddeus Young to Indiana for the No. 20 pick in the 2016 NBA draft (Caris LeVert) and a future second–round selection. This clears ~$14M in cap space.

Drafted Marcus Paige in the 2nd round (55th pick) of the 2016 NBA Draft. Traded Marcus Paige and Cash to the Utah Jazz for Isaiah Whitehead.

July 1: Jeremy Lin ($36M/3-year)
Justin Hamilton ($6M/2-year)

July 2: Trevor Booker ($18.5M/2-year)

July 3: Tyler Johnson ($50M/4-year)

July 4: Allenn Crabbe ($70M/4-year) unconfirmed until a scheduled meeting on July 5

Link: http://www.basketballinsiders.com/brooklyn-nets-team-salary/

  • adele

    Happy 4th of July to all US Lin fans enjoy!

  • Lin Dunn

    You are first, I am second to wish everyone happy 4th.

  • NONONO

    i want to be the 4th, but wait 3rd too long. Happy 4th

  • sws94

    So, about Barclays. I like the floor. It’s a parquet type of floor. Don’t like the uniforms for the Nets, just black and white. They need a stronger one. Barclays seems like an almost nondescript new arena. Of course, going to an old arena that has history often makes one feel that it has more character. When MSG was new people weren’t crazy about it compared to older arenas. It’s very convenient for subways, many of them go there that go through Brooklyn. More trains go there than MSG. T

    I think it is now take a modest on-paper team and see what they are like when they play. That means be ultra-patient. Lin will work on his jump shot and other areas of his game, and hopefully his ankle/back and other problem areas will be healed. But we won’t see him and his team play until late September or early October.

    For Comcast viewers like me, I found a service called Sling. They charge 20$ month to view YES and some other channels. I don’t know about League Pass from another VPN, I may decide to use Sling if they have reliable picture quality. That’s all I want. A good, high-quality stream to watch Net games.

    Happy 4th.

  • NONONO

    I hope Nets get Johnson. If they got both Crabbe and Johnson, it seems no more space for the big(s)

  • Jamie

    Dont they already have him, pretty much?

  • NONONO

    I think black and white is cool. Got strong character.

  • sws94

    Spurs are also black and white. The Nets have another color, a kind of gray with a small blue area. I remember seeing that last season.

  • NONONO

    no yet. Heats needs a strong SG backup.

  • psalm234

    @kietchayla
    Hope these guys still keep their shirt and wear them at Nets game.
    https://twitter.com/kietchayla/status/750056879397621761

  • sws94
  • Linzen

    Have been away the whole weekend… So, I have probably missed all the discussions about possible SG & PF.
    Anyone interested in Novak? He is UFA… and certainly a sharp shooting 4 & an excellent teammate. I know he doesn’t do much else, but we can use his 3s.

  • ProLin

    I’m okay with this format, just don’t call this GARM and I’m good. 🙂

  • NONONO

    I use VPN for LP. it was fine. But if Sling covers it, i might use Sling because it covers ESPN and ESPN 2. But I will go to BKN to watch some games too.

  • ProLin

    I think only Interest in Novak so far from anyone is Lin himself… lol… my guess is they’re keeping him on the back pocket and may bring him in if there’s money left.

  • ProLin

    wrong color! The new Nets Linsanity fans are gonna call out the old Knicks Linsanity fans! Brawls on the stands!

  • Jamie

    hmmm well they are paying DW 20m so idk if they can still match

  • ProLin

    If they lose Dwade I think they’ll match.

  • ProLin

    you write fascinating things.. What’s your opinion on just calling the Nets the New York Nets? Why are they forced to stay in a borough anyway? Any other team named after an area smaller than the greater metro area? I mean we have a team named after a whole state….

  • ProLin

    yeah I don’t like that gray color.

  • Linzen

    2M/year to warm the bench? Yeah, Lin is certainly interested. 🙂

  • Linzen

    I thought the last two years are the problem for Heat (poison pill)?

  • psalm234

    Yeah, never 😄

  • ProLin

    Novak I heard is on coaching track so he might be interested in teaching the kids how to shoot the 3. More vet on the bench is all good. Novak is a loyal friend of Lins and I think the reunion should be sweet.

  • ProLin

    But I heard Spo is really high on TJ, seeing him as the future franchise PG. They might bite.

  • sws94

    I like the sleeved black uniform. The gray/blue one is the worst one.

  • HVJoy

    Happy Lindependence Day! 🎉🎉

  • NONONO

    Nets PF – Chris McCullough has been working on his game with Nets coach Kenny Atkinson this summer.
    “Yeah! That’s my dude, man,” McCullough said of Atkinson. “Once he got there, we clicked. I’m working with him all the time, and he’s always in the gym, working hard. He reached out to me when he got hired, so we’re well connected now. It’s great.” The Nets traded away Thaddeus Young to the Pacers, so McCullough is currently the only power forward under contract for the 2016-17 season. He’s going to be a name to watch at the summer league.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2486/chris-mccullough

  • Spot

    Are you sure about Crabbe? I only see that offer is not true on internet

  • ProLin

    Offer is there but he didn’t take it yet. He could not until after the Blazers formally said they won’t match anyway.

  • Click Click

    Ewww get D-Will outta here! :p

    I like the one on the right most. Just the B with ball logo. The 2nd one is cool too but it does look like Spurs uniform.

  • Ben Johnson

    We should know the Crabbe situation tomorrow…like others have said, Crabbe, Atkinson, and Marks are with the same talent agency, so I’m not sure if the contract leak, which seems to be an intentional leak by his agents to get more money, will damage the negotiations…I think Marks will stand pat with the 4/70 offer, or maybe bump it up to 4/72…Portland may be bluffing, and may not match it…

  • ProLin

    Oh I’m big on Chris. Love to hear that! Atkinson will make a formidable Stretch 4 out of him yet! I knew Kenny is gonna make him a project!

  • TVN

    Very talented. Left school too early like a lot of guys do nowadays. Needs to get a lot stronger. It’ll be interesting to see how he does in Summer League.

  • NONONO

    I am not sure Nets should make the 4/70 offer unless TJ is off.

  • Ben Johnson

    I looked at the SG free agents next year, the prospects stink, the only vet they can realistically sign is Reddick, and I project Crabbe to be Reddick but a better defender

  • NONONO

    Knicks seems got a good deal on Brandon Jennings. 5M?

  • Click Click

    I feel for ya… having Comcast must suck. 🙁

    I’m with Optimum / Cablevision. Always wanted to switch to Verizon FIOS, but never bothered with the hassle. Gonna be sweet watching Lin and Nets on YES next year.

    As for VPNs, I personally use Private Internet Access. It works well and is affordable. Not sure how it works with League Pass though.

  • Click Click

    Lin should get Novak a job as a Nets shooting coach or something if that’s what he wants. Nets owe Lin a favor or two after the bargain he gave them.

  • ProLin

    It’s overpaying for a just a decent piece to the puzzle. We can live w/o Crabbe.

  • Spot

    The guy shoots 40% from downtown. Could be good

  • ProLin

    Yeah decent, but if we sign him we won’t be able to sign much more.

  • ProLin

    I’m calling him to be a break-out young player this coming year. If he can learn fast Atkinson will give him a lot of playing time. Lin will feed him well.

  • Click Click

    I personally think the Nets need him. He’s no all-star or anything and yes, Nets will need to overpay to get him, but IMO he’s a very important piece to the team. He is a legit SG and a threat to shoot anywhere, as well as being able to drive to the basket and finish. He can take the load off of Lin if Lin is being trapped or double teamed. Most importantly, having Crabbe means TJ will be a quality 6th man, which the Nets currently doesn’t have.

  • Jamie

    Maybe leaking it to see how Portland reacts?
    highly unlikely but who knows its owners money so it doesnt hurt marks to pay more

  • Click Click

    Kenny doin’ work already. This guy doesn’t stop. When even Lin is impressed with your “motor,” you know the coach is very special.

    Atkinson is no regular head coach. He’s going to be the head coach AND a player development coach at the same time. Players love him too. He’ll easily command respect and trust from this new Nets team.

  • sws94

    He’s a big piece to get and can make a big difference.

  • Ben Johnson

    I don’t think Crabbe will ever be an all-star, but the guy would literally boost JLin’s assist total by 1-2 assists a game, I’m not kidding

  • Click Click

    Yeah, I hate having to overpay for him, but if Marks has to, he really needs to.

  • sws94

    That would be the whole point of getting it. If LeaguePass didn’t block out games that are broadcasted locally, I’d just watch the Nets on LeaguePass. The VPN would make them think I’m somewhere else, so the game wouldn’t be blocked out.

  • sws94

    They play in the fairly new Barclay’s Center in Brooklyn, so they named the Nets after that borough. The Dodgers were the Brooklyn Dodgers at one time before they moved to LA. So it is the NY Knicks and Brooklyn Nets as the area basketball players.

  • sws94

    He may end up being one if Lin can elevate his play to one.

  • Click Click
  • Click Click

    LOL I know how VPNs work and why people need them. :p

    I said I don’t know how it works with League Pass because I never used it with LP.

  • Jamie

    Lin/TJ/another Rookie
    Crabbe/TJ/rookie from michigan
    RHJ/Bog
    Trevor Booker/rookie from 2015
    Lopez/Hamilton
    not too bad a little weak on the front court rotation but its do-able
    Back court would be amazing! so dynamic
    so yah gotta get crabbe maybe a terrence jones or david west for dirty cheap if possible

  • ProLin

    LOL, really torn on this one. 50/50 in my head now… I guess that means I’m good either way. I do want to see more lowkey, high potential signings though.

  • Ben Johnson

    Looks good to me! I’d roll the dice on DMo, see if he can get healthy and recapture his 2014-2015 performance when he was a top stretch 4

  • Ben Johnson

    Actually, the 2year offer from Miami is starting to worry me regarding the Johnson signing…they may be saying to Wade “Ok, here’s 2 years for you, but we’re done with you after that and Tyler is gonna step in as the starter”…if that’s the case, then 18-19 mil for a starting 2 guard will be the average cost, maybe even below average at that point

  • Linzen
  • Jamie

    do they have the cap space for TJ and Wade thats 32 mil right there

  • Jamie

    that foes to both Tjones and Dmo lol

  • Click Click

    They’ve been shopping Hawes since before the draft. Nobody wanted to take on his $5.7M cap though. Charlotte would have to make that deal a sweet one for some team to take Hawes.

    Right now, Nets need to be worrying about Crabbe, and a plan B if we can’t get Crabbe and/or TJ. Hawes would throw a monkey wrench into their plan, so I doubt Marks is worrying about trading for him right now. Yes, he can help with depth on the Nets, but there are more important holes to plug ahead of depth at the 4 or 5 slots.

  • Ben Johnson

    Cap hit for Miami would only be 6mil for the first 2 years, then 18 mil in year 3 and 19 mil in year 4

  • Ben Johnson

    So, 26mil cap hit for their SGs in 2016 and 2017, not bad at all

  • Ben Johnson

    Nah, I like Hamilton as a backup more at this point

  • Linzen

    Oh, I didn’t know he’s that old…
    He had good chemistry with JLin at the end of the season… can help open the lane. For Hamilton, I like him A LOT from the youtube video, hope his 3s are better than Hawes.

  • Click Click

    Yup, you hit the nail on the head. Miami is basically saying that they’re gonna do right by Wade and finally give him his payday, but only for 2 years. The ball is in Wade’s court now. Heat fans and media can’t blame them for not offering a fair deal to Wade now, whether he stays or goes.

    That 2 year deal means that they want TJ to be backup for another 2 years, while they get to develop TJ more and on the cheap too. Once that 3rd year comes though, Heat has no problem letting TJ take over and replace Wade with his $18-$19M years 3 and 4 contract.

    This doesn’t look for the Nets now. Nobody thought Heat would match that poison pill contract yesterday, but they’re clearly signifying they’re willing to match now. They know Wade is on the decline and he’s not the future. TJ is.

  • Ben Johnson

    Hawes isn’t that old, I was mistaken…but Hawes doesn’t fit well in an uptempo offense…he’s just too darn slow

  • Alaingrvis

    he is 28

  • Alaingrvis

    spencer is exactly what we need. He shot the three at 37 percent. Our best defense in the playoffs was when he was on the court oddly.

  • Ben Johnson

    They need to make Crabbe an offer the Blazers will refuse, can’t lose both of these prospects, need to get at least one…otherwise the ONLY shooter on the roster is Bog, my oh my

  • Click Click

    Umm, Hawes is 28 lol. He’s not old nor is he done with the NBA… what the heck?

    He’s really good on the pick and roll and would definitely help with the Nets’ depth at the C or PF slots. $5.6M cap hit is a little high, but nothing too bad. The problem is, Nets have other holes to fill before they should be worrying about acquiring someone like Hawes.

  • Linzen

    Agreed. Crabbe certainly is a priority.
    What do you think of Gerald Henderson? I think he is a promising SG/SF from Portland too. I remember he gave GSW some match up (not too much of course) problems during this playoff. Is he as good as Crabbe?

  • Ben Johnson

    5.6M isn’t bad if they don’t end up with Crabbe…maybe they could use him along side Brook for some stretches

  • Alaingrvis

    How fast can a pf who shoot three be though.

  • Click Click

    Yup, Hawes was actually amazing playing pick and roll with Lin during the playoffs… until he got hurt.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChZxUMlU4AAAhok.jpg

    He’s not starter material though. Can be a good backup.

  • ProLin

    Yes he’s a stretch 4, but he’s old and slow. Not sure how well he can run & gun with Lin and the young’ems.

  • ProLin

    He’s 28…

  • Alaingrvis

    Nets need a 3 shooting 4 man. Having that on the roster to use on them that trap Lin will be helpful. Although he can be hot and cold

  • ProLin

    I guess a little competition won’t hurt.

  • Alaingrvis

    He is the same age as Lin

  • ProLin

    Works well with Lin. Only if we don’t overpay.

  • Alaingrvis

    roughly

  • Alaingrvis

    Its a trade so his salary won’t go up

  • DX

    Pros: 3 pts, good passer, smart player
    Cons: weak & slow, can’t attack rim, bad at PnR

  • Jamie

    damn i would if i were the heat

  • Linzen

    It’s a trade… they may even get a pick back… if lucky. 🙂

  • Click Click

    Yeah, this is a very dangerous simultaneous game of chicken Marks is now playing with the Heat and Blazers. He wants to poach both SGs off of them and both teams wants to keep them. It sucks so much they’re both RFAs and their offers can be matched. Otherwise, I’m sure Marks would’ve already acquired them.

  • sws94

    I know you do, but that’s my only interest in one. Some do it for other reasons.

  • TVN

    He’s a stretch 5. Can’t see him guarding anyone of note away from the basket. Imagine when the Warriors go to their “Death” lineup. Who does he guard?

  • Linzen

    Agreed on all of them. That’s why he is a good fit to play with Brook. He can stretch the floor for BrookLin to operate their PnR, while he is outside for PnP.
    When needed, I think both Hamilton and Booker can crash the board.

  • DX

    Agreed, Spencer will be good if someone else secure the paint.

  • Click Click

    Hawes wouldn’t be a starter lol. He’d be a good fit on the 2nd unit, just like he was with the Hornets last year.

    It’s not like the Warriors are in the Nets’ division or even conference. They’ll probably play each other twice or something next year.

  • Linzen

    Not saying Hawes is good on D… But, Green and Durant both present HUGH match up problems. That’s why they are called “Death” (now super death) lineup. I can’t think of a single 5 in the league who can hang with them.

  • Linzen

    Hey Click. It looks like Henderson can be a good plan B. I didn’t even know he was a starter back in Hornets… hmmmmmmm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Henderson,_Jr.

  • zxcvb

    Yes! They need a PF/C off the bench and we know he and Lin can work together.

  • zxcvb

    BTW, it looks like Haralabos knew what he was talking about: he predicted KD to GSW yesterday at noon!

    GSW may be the most “stacked” team ever, but the lack of interior presence and the fact that there’s only ONE ball for FOUR stars is a legit concern.

  • zxcvb

    As long as he comes off the bench, he’s a great addition.

    My bold prediction is that Hamilton becomes starting PF by the end of the calendar year. And Hawes could back up both Lopez and Hamilton as the “3rd big.”

  • Linzen

    Another idea… Think Gerald Henderson (SG, Portland Blazers) can be a good plan B if they don’t get Crabbe? What do you guys think?
    Here is a little bio on the guy… I did’t know he was a starter back in Hornets.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Henderson,_Jr.

    Edit: He is surely undervalued now.

  • sport

    Wow just found out KD joined GSW, seriously unexpected. Guess he really is a team player with less ego 🙂 Most stars like Lebron would never join GSW and rather beat them with his own team. Lin will have a tough job beating GSW for a ring now.

  • zxcvb

    If they don’t get Crabbe, they can just roll with Bogdanovic, Kilpatrick and Johnson. Or even get Troy Daniels for dirt cheap if they just want pure 3pt shooting (we know he can work w/ Lin).

  • Click Click

    Henderson is really good at driving, cutting, and dunking. He’s got crazy hops. However, he’s not good at shooting 3s and we need a SG who can catch and shoot from deep. He’d be great for the 2nd unit, but the Nets are already packed with Guard reserves. We need a legit starting SG and I’m not sure Henderson is that guy due to his poor shooting. He’s a good player, but I’m not sure he’d be a good plan B in our current situation.

  • Linzen

    Fair enough. Thank you!

  • zxcvb

    KD probably wants to do what Lebron did. Leave for a super-team, win a ring, come back to his old team, win a ring. Cleveland forgave Lebron and OKC would probably forgive Durant if he did that.

    Personally, I hate all this ring-chasing.

  • ProLin

    Really I tend to see him more as PF and he’s listed as such.. but I guess at that height u can play both.

  • sport

    How long before Westbrook’s contract ends? My guess is that for KD to return Westbrook would have to go. KD is probably too nice to push his long time colleague out of OKC to build around “himself”. That was always OKC’s biggest issue, they were stuck between KD and Westbrook when KD should be the one handling the ball more.

  • ProLin

    ah I see, I thought he’s RFA.. what do we have to trade for him? 🙂

  • TVN

    Henderson can’t stretch the D. Hollis-Jefferson is a likely starter at one of the wing spots, so you need a guy that can shoot the 3 at the other wing spot.

  • ProLin

    KD is getting old and he just don’t see OKC winning the big one, so he joined his enemies. I’m tell u, this is a player realize the rigging of the NBA and only certain teams gets to win. KD choice wisely. Mark my words – 2017 Finals – Cavs vs Dubs, 7 Games, Dubs win with KD heroics.

  • ProLin

    Isn’t he a little too old for that? He should have done this years ago then.

  • ProLin

    Yeah Carbbe maybe nice, but I’m okay without him.

  • ProLin

    yes I mispoke.. he’s SLOW, but not that old.. 🙂

  • Alaingrvis

    nothing lol. I guess it would just be a salary dump

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Teams in opposite conferences always play each other twice. Teams in the same conference play each other 4x with the exception of 4 team pairs in each conf. that only meet 3x.

  • Linzen

    I really hope the poison pill works. It’s nice to have a Johnson/Lin backcourt.

  • sport

    Years ago GSW wasn’t such a favorite Championship team and it wasn’t his FA yet. There was no way KD would join Lebron’s team to chase a ring. With Curry he can still handle since Curry does have his limitations and is a much friendlier teammate and leader. Though I’m curious how the team reacted during the “meeting” with KD. Wouldn’t it be awkward after such a competitive series? O.o

  • Ben Johnson

    Hmm, now that the Warriors have gotten Peculia, maybe Portland will break open the bank for Ezili (which they didn’t want to do), and they’ll have to let Crabbe go

    http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/7/4/12094382/nba-free-agency-news-zaza-pachulia-festus-ezeli-trail-blazers

  • sport

    Green x Durant in one starting lineup sounds like a nightmare for other teams.

  • Linzen

    Westbrook is a FA next year. So, the rumour is that Pasti is going to trade him and get back whatever he can. Well, I’m sure that’s going to create a lot of drama too…. Lakers? LOL

  • ProLin

    doubtful Hornets would just let him go for cap space… I’ll be shocked it we land him.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Nah, Nets vs. Dubs. 7 games. Nets win with JLin heroics.

  • ProLin

    That would be 2 years from now, when Silver decided Nets is the Dubs of the East and he wants a new rivalry of Lakers/Celtics proportion. Silver wants his own legacy I tell u… Lakers will never win a ring again.

  • heart

    Had to bring this up when we talk about KD. Still can’t forget how KD intentionally nudged/pressed into Lin’s contused chest caused by Thabo Sefolosha, after he called a timeout. KD knew that Lin was play hurt and was in pain there. So I’d say KD is not as ‘nice’ as some people might think, at least not ‘nice’ to Lin for sure.

  • TVN

    KD has no connection to OKC. He really didn’t like it when they moved there from Seattle. IMO, had that franchise stayed in Seattle, he wouldn’t left.

  • Click Click

    SAS’s almost 20 minute rant from his hotel room on the KD to GSW topic:

    https://youtu.be/2Bp9kJucv44

    I don’t like SAS at all, but I agree with him here and he’s right.

  • sws94

    Wow.

  • zxcvb

    He’s been with the franchise his entire career.

  • zxcvb

    I can see why they went after Pau (he’s so offensively skilled), but Ezeli ain’t worth it. They already have Ed Davis, who’s as good or better, Miles Plumlee and can re-sign Meyers Leonard.

  • Click Click

    LOL what is Cho thinking?

    Free agent center Roy Hibbert is finalizing a deal with the Charlotte Hornets, league sources tell @TheVertical.

    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/750116198252175360

  • Click Click
  • ProLin

    Another rental deal, just using up the cap space.

  • ProLin

    He’s gonna hate unless KD signed with his Knicks.

  • Jamie

    he’s only a back up
    not that bad of a deal

  • Click Click

    Well, yeah. It’s another career rehab / rental just like Lin’s situation.

    Tank commander Scott destroyed Lin’s career and Hibbert’s too. Difference is, Scott actually let Hibbert play as much as he could and started him in 82 games because he was so bad and could help with the tanking.

    I don’t think he can come back, but who knows. Maybe Cliff, Ewing, and Silas can somehow revive Hibbert’s career.

  • takeme2cruz

    Nets have been doing well and responsibility until Tyler Johnson. He hasn’t proven anything yet to get that kind of contract.

  • ProLin

    I fear that it’s gonna be so bad for Hornets that he’ll get a lot of playing time,

  • ProLin

    Its not that bad, not exactly over-paying in this market place. plus, there’s a good chance Heat will match if they lose DWade, which is looking like a possibility.

  • takeme2cruz

    Miami is not crazy. They have no cap room.

  • ProLin

    I think some analysis online said it’s plausible.

  • Click Click

    If Dwyane Wade takes $39.2M, the Heat could still match Tyler Johnson’s offer sheet and retain both Josh Richardson and Briante Weber.

    https://twitter.com/albertrandom1/status/750045370676289538

  • zxcvb

    Anything to give Lin a chance to pull off a Leicester City. He can’t be the only ballhandler on the entire team, which he is right now. I think there’s some hostility towards TJ because people think he’ll try to “usurp” Lin because of his contract.

    In truth, Johnson is the perfect complement to Lin whether backup/6th man (which is what’s reported) or starting SG:

    Lin: only 29% of 2s & 76% of 3s are assisted
    Johnson: 46% of 2s and 96% of 3s are assisted

    For comparison, here’s a guy we KNOW would be a bad fit for a Lin-led team:
    Clarkson: only 30% of 2s & 75% of 3s are assisted

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s not the stats to justify $50 mil.

  • Ben Johnson

    Yup, that’s what I was afraid of

  • takeme2cruz

    Still the question is will they?

  • ProLin

    Cho.. might be building a rep as a Player’s GM.. think about it. He knows his stunt with Hornet is limited. He’s offering these savior deals to players like Lin to salvage his careers. Plays talk and deemed him a good guy. It would be easier to recruit players on his next job. Notice how Marvin Williams took less money to stay and Batum didn’t get wooed by big market teams – that’s because Rich Cho is a good guy the players trusted. I hope he’ll leave Lord MJ’s team soon and get his own FO. Asians’ gotta fight extra hard, ya know.

  • zxcvb

    Yes, it is. It shows he’s the perfect guy for a Lin-led team. So you pay what you have to.

    The market says TJ is worth 50M. Actually, he’s worth a little more because at least one team offered more. But he wanted to be in the rotation right away. He can be 6th man and maybe even starting SG on the Nets.

  • Jamie

    Spo really likes TJ

  • Jamie

    Overpaid but everyone is overpaid
    Lin could’ve potetially got like 4 years 60-70m if he waited a little

  • Click Click

    Yeah, Marks knows what he’s doing. He’s not handing out these fat contracts to just anybody. He’s targeting guys he knows will play team ball, work hard on both ends of the court, and have little ego. Guys that has something to prove and wants to win instead of stat padding or ballhogging. Guys with high potential that’s been wasted on teams that didn’t give them the proper opportunity or utilized correctly.

    Both TJ and Crabbe are important pieces to the Nets. The problem is, they’re both RFA, in high demand, and Heat / Blazers both want to retain these young studs. Even with Marks throwing money at these 2, their respective teams are still going to try and match. Marks is smart though. He’s probably got plan B, C, and D lined up if we can’t get 1 or both TJ and Crabbe.

  • ProLin

    Lin might be doing something extraordinary like taking the Nets to the playoffs, but a Leicester City means HE HAS TO BEAT THE DUBS for the Chip. Thats not gonna happen this year.

  • takeme2cruz

    Really, one single pick and choose stat? What happen to all the numbers that matter? PPG, assist etc…?

    If he make one shot out of one he’s 100% shooter. In other words cheated stat.

  • takeme2cruz

    So he kept TJ on the bench most of playoff.

  • Click Click

    They will. TJ is their projected replacement for Wade in 3 years. Or if they lose Wade this year, he’s their starting SG. You act like TJ is a scrub and nobody wants him except Marks/Nets and that we’re overpaying for someone that doesn’t deserve it. Hornets, Bulls, Kings, Heat, Nets, Pelicans are very interested in getting this guy.

  • takeme2cruz

    You don’t jump over the clip just because everyone else does.

  • blueCypher

    So , now it is unlikely we get Crabbe since Portland will likely match ?

  • takeme2cruz

    TJ projected to replace Wade? Wow, the all-star/rings Wade?

  • zxcvb

    You have to watch his game. When given a chance, he’s excellent and capable of being a great role player.

    Should Lin have gotten more in this crazy market? Yes. But life ain’t fair. According to contracts like Turner and Mozgov, Johnson got a fair contract.

    Bottom line is to put together the BEST team possible. Getting Johnson is the right move for that.

  • Click Click

    The declining Wade, yes. You really don’t have a clue what you’re even talking about, do you?

  • zxcvb

    Hehe, just using the term loosely. Although, for the record, Lin ALREADY has enough to make the playoffs. With Atkinson coaching, Lin, Lopez, Bogdanovic, Booker, Kilpatrick, Hamilton are enough.

  • NONONO

    If it is the best player they can get in this crazy FA market, it is fine. No level I and few strong level II player wants to come Nets. I think Marks and Atkinson know it. They seem to build a team with hardworking young talent with less ego players. What has made many of us so supportive for Lin is how he has been dealing with all king big challenges on and off court. It is going to be a tough year. But i expect it is going to be a fun year.

  • takeme2cruz

    I can’t watch his game because most of the time he’s in for garbage time or sitting on the bench. Again, no one can justify his $50 mil paid raise.

  • takeme2cruz

    Hey moron, TJ is bench and you say he will replace Wade? are You that dumb or what?

  • zxcvb

    Market value is whatever people are willing to pay. Doesn’t align with quality.

  • Click Click

    LMAO you must be trolling. We’ve already told you 6+ teams are interested in TJ. Nets was even outbid by some other team for him. Heat is willing to let go Wade if it means keeping him and they’re willing to match the Nets’ poison pill contract for him. Yet you’re still here whining about him not worth $50M. Not even gonna bother responding to you anymore after this.

  • psalm234

    yes, Tyler Johnson is a lot more effective as an SG than a PG based on Net Rating per48min.
    He should thrive playing his natural position as an SG next to JLin.
    Lin fans don’t need to worry.

    Player Production by Position 2015/16

    Position NetRating %PlayingTime
    SG +9.5 48.1%
    PG -8.7 51.9%

  • takeme2cruz

    No he’s not the best player in FA market. Heck no.

  • NONONO

    He is not the best SG or PG on the market. But who else Nets can get?

  • zxcvb

    Psalm, have you thought about having a full-fledged Lin message board (with threads and sub-forums)?

    Now that Lin is getting a real chance, there will be tons to talk about and it would be great to have a real forum to keep track of common topics of discussion. Also easier to moderate posts and dismiss trolls/spammers. Just a thought…

  • takeme2cruz

    Here we go again, this is why I told you moron, Nets are overpaying him. Never said he’s not an NBA player that teams are interested to sign,

  • ProLin

    Yeah, if everyone is healthy, an 8th spot is very plausible. Just want to see the look of those Net doubters when that happens… I mean most existing Nets fans don’t see the team more than 30 wins. They just don’t know Lin.

  • ProLin

    If Portland still wants Crabbe. There might be other FA they’re after now that KD/TD rocked the NBA.

  • Click Click

    Just missing a few pieces now and I’m 100% positive we’ll make the playoffs. Right now, with this incomplete roster, I’m only 80-90% sure.

  • takeme2cruz

    Are you joking? Lee is for one just go the the Knicks for the same money.

  • NONONO

    Lee? First, i do not think Nets could get him for the same money. Second, I prefer TJ over Lee because TJ is very good combo guard and Lee only better them him on D (maybe).

  • Jamie

    yep strangely

  • Click Click

    That would be a great idea. Posting comments with a format like this is fine, but I much prefer forums / message board format. Reddit isn’t exactly a forum, but I even prefer that format better too. Right now, Lin fans are very spread out over Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, here, and another place.

  • takeme2cruz

    Where’s your cursing words at me?

  • Alaingrvis

    Wade wants more money and a third year if he gets it we get tj. Crab is an unknown. nets done want to offer him money and have to wait 3 days for a response. Free agents are flying off the books. They need to know for sure he they can get him

  • blueCypher

    wait, what happened to tim duncan ?

  • Jamie

    but they did lol

  • ProLin

    Timmy retired today. Spurs signed Pau.

  • Joe what do you know

    Very likely to retire

  • blueCypher

    really, all reports say he is leaning . not official yet

  • ProLin

    With signing of Pau it’s pretty much official. Unless he’s staying around as a backup, he’s gone.

  • blueCypher

    that would be a very tim duncan move – to retire beneath the kevin durant hoopla

  • Joe what do you know

    Those report were out before Gasol officially becomes a Spur…

  • zxcvb

    Yes, he’s being way “overpaid” — like 90% of FAs this summer. But the market dictates the price and if the Nets want him, that’s what they have to pay. And they should want him because he’s a great piece around a Lin & Lopez-centric team.

  • blueCypher

    i guess we’ll eventually find out . although back up minutes might be good for him since he’s old

  • takeme2cruz

    I rest my case, Lee is better D and better everything else.

  • zxcvb

    I can understand not having one while he was just a backup, but now that he’s starting in Brooklyn for a coach and team that wants him…it’s time to regroup on a formal message board.

  • zxcvb

    “I’d like to announce that this was my last year with my beloved Spurs…

    …I’m leaving to play PF for the Brooklyn Nets!”

  • ProLin

    I’m so tired of this waiting… please get all the pieces in place so we can start debating who’s to start and what role they need to play in which situation please? Please Get My Lin-Year-1 team ready!

  • Alaingrvis

    so we need miami to give wade more money and Portland to sign fetus ezeli https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750140463374561280

  • ProLin

    “… I heard they’re building the Spurs of the East over there!”

  • ProLin

    I just realized it.. it’s less than 3 hours to Tuesday!!!!

  • zxcvb

    Marks was basically hired to install Spurs culture in Brooklyn. So far, he’s doing a great job.

  • Alaingrvis
  • NONONO

    I prefer let the data do the talk besides TJ is 7 years younger. Nets does not seem to target any player who seems already over or reach his prime.

  • psalm234

    We actually did experiment with BB Forum but it was an overkill in the beginning and not so much participation as Disqus so we killed it.

    I’ve been trying to create a Forum-like environment for over a year using WordPress posts and I finally succeeded after some low-level coding so hopefully this works. I still need to do cosmetic changes to make it look good. And I’d like to get users feedback after users find some time to get used to it.

    Those who’d like to create threads just need to register for WordPress account then I will give author permission. We don’t want to give all registered users ability to create threads to prevent trolling. Only trusted users for now

  • Alaingrvis
  • David Kim

    Nets planning to offer Crabbe?? if they gets both Crabbe and Johnson,
    what will be Nets starting 5?
    I went to camping for 2 days..there was no internet connection…
    i got no idea whats going on?
    Nets also interested in Ezeli??

  • zxcvb

    Having BOTH forum and disqus comments is what hurt it. Confusing and spread out. Just having the forum alone would work. Everyone here would register their BB forum account.

    Also, when Lin is just backing up, it’s just not as exciting and discussion-worthy as when he’s a true starting PG. It’s your decision of course! I just think it’s worth reconsidering. You might have more traffic too w/ greater ad $$$ potential to help your costs.

  • Click Click

    We were already spared from the waiting game when Lin agreed to the deal so quickly this year. I’ve been just chillin’ and relaxed, watching how much work Marks has been doing. Everyday, he’s made good moves except today. I guess Marks is just waiting for the dust to settle after the KD aftershock lol.

    Patience my friend, patience. :p

  • NONONO

    Actually TJ’s defense seems a bit better than Lee in every category.

  • FreetheMind

    If Nets have any cap space left after done with free agency, I hope they give it to Lin and increase his offer like Mavs did to Wesley Mathews last year when Jordan changed his mind. Lin should have got more money this off season.

  • NONONO

    TJ was not much recovered from his injury by then.

  • Click Click

    From what I gathered reading Heat fans’ posts on Reddit, they’ve been saying TJ is a future all-star SG. They said he’s a pretty bad PG because he loses his dribble and makes turnovers. His passing is also lacking, as well as his court vision. I think he could learn under Lin and be more helpful as the Nets’ 6th man, but his true calling and natural position is at the 2 spot.

  • FreetheMind

    I am here Marks analyzed Heat’s cap situation two years from now before they made that poison pill offer. I hope Miami does not match. TJ definitely should leave. He should not have to play behind Wade for two more years.

  • psalm234

    Thanks, I’ll keep it in mind.
    It would be such big change to switch back but I might investigate the latest feature of bbPress forum when I have time. The biggest downside is it’s hard to scroll through messages and search for things.

    I will try to add Facebook and G+ comments soon to see how well it works.

  • ProLin

    LOL, I’m actually loving all this… never cared about the NBA soooo much.. but its exciting! A deal can land anytime! And they do! Entire 4th weekend camping on twitter and the forums, no regrets.

  • Jamie

    you guys do the web development yourselves?

  • Click Click

    TJ definitely wants to leave, that’s why he accepted the offer from Marks, even leaving money on the table from another team. He wants to come to Brooklyn and shine. Problem is, Miami wants to keep him locked up like a prisoner. :p

  • psalm234

    I agree 100% from watching his highlights. He looked to be a natural SG, he doesn’t have court-vision like Lin but he’s very athletic and got super bounce.

    I’m concerned that the Heat might match it because they see him as DWade’s replacement.
    I’m crossing my fingers that he’ll go to the Nets.
    It’s good to hear he turned down higher offer to go to the Nets 🙂

  • Jamie

    He’s one of the better ones
    Lee is a better fit to Lin but i dont think the Nets wanted to go for him
    TJ can be the 6th man scoring off the bench like Lin did with Houston
    not the best way to spend 12.5m cap space but not awful wither

  • Alaingrvis

    They already have 70 million locked up. add tj and thats 90 something. Thats why wade is an issue. Not to forget the fact that they aren’t contender as constructed already.

  • psalm234

    as much as possible we try to find available plug-ins

    But in this case, I had to do low-level coding myself because nothing exists like the features that I want. It’s still a work-in-progress to make it resemble reddit more

  • zxcvb

    Oh okay, thanks! I just think things have changed enough to re-consider. Myself and others are always switching back and forth between this site and the other one, addressing the same topics over and over again.

    It also allows various trolls w/ any Disqus account to drop in and spew nonsense whereas a forum requires them to make a new account just for the forum, be verified and even wait a day to post.

  • psalm234

    Nice poison pill 🙂

    I like Sean Marks’ brilliant tactical move!

  • NONONO

    Lin has bonus (any idea how much?) in his contract and could have multi millions more endorsements if he likes care more money at this point.

  • zxcvb

    I can see them doing that if they don’t reach the cap floor, which is 90% of the total cap. They’ll want to be flexible for next summer though once Lin & Atkinson make the Nets respectable again this coming season.

  • Jamie

    Nice!!
    I guess you are a software engineer yourself too ahaha
    Thank you for all the hard work!!!

  • ProLin

    and Lin will offer it to his buddies Novak and/or Landry for them to have another shot. He’s not about the money.

  • zxcvb

    He probably would prefer that. I think they should get Novak anyway for vet min. He’s still one of the very best 3pt shooters in the league and a high character veteran.

  • NONONO

    Good point.

  • ProLin

    Eh, if Lin start to be as hot as he was during Linsanity, do you know how many millions will roll his way from Chinese endorsements? He would be busy swimming in money. NBA salary is nothing if he’s able to lead the Nets deep into the playoffs.

  • Click Click

    Have him on the 2nd unit or reserves and park him in the corner, draining 3s all day lol.

  • ProLin

    As I recall Novak was clutch too. Might be a missing piece.

  • psalm234

    you’re welcome 🙂
    a lot of faithful Lin fans also contributed

  • zxcvb

    He’s a guy who can sit 30m, check into a game, run a set play and splash a clutch 3. Then sit back down again. That’s valuable and almost no one in the league can do that.

  • Click Click

    Yup. Situational specialist. When you need a sharpshooter, put him in. Get the lead, sit him back down unless he’s hot and nobody else is hitting their shots.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Max bonus can be is 25% of salary. So Lin has the potential to earn 12 + 12/4 = 15M.

  • grover chang

    LOL. I’m not going to hold my breath.

  • Rocky

    I simply called League Pass and convinced them to open up the local channels for me. It took two phone calls with one associate gave me some kind of regulation excuse. I then was able to watch via LP.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    At some point during the season PFV and others started preaching that Lin and his fans should be eternally grateful to Cliff and the Hornets for allowing Lin to resuscitate his reputation. We should all thank Cliff was the chant. That annoyed me to no end.

    Starting from game 1 of the regular season it became clear that Lin would be marginalized as usual. Yeah Clif was better than the tanking BS but so what? Lin agreed to sign with the Hornets at a huge discount because of the promises Cliff made but never kept. This was most clearly seen in games 6&7 of the playoffs when Lin was benched rather than allowed to shine. If Lin had been allowed to play to his strengths and true potential, the Hornets would have gone deeper into the playoffs and Lin would have gotten a salary closer to what he deserves.

    If you think the $12M Lin got is too low, then maybe you should “thank” Cliff for that. To get the salary Lin really deserves, he’s going to have to prove himself one more time and hopefully the Nets finally give him that chance.

  • Jamie

    I’m a software engineer too so i would love to contribute too if theres need!! ahah

  • NONONO

    I agree. Lin could have got nothing (minutes) in Hornets if MKG were healthy and Batum did not miss those big games.

  • Alaingrvis

    well it should be noted what his value was after lakers. And the increase in his pay after Cliff. Not saying it was ideal but honestly after Lakers hornets was the most Lin could hope for.

  • Epie

    I’m just happy that we no longer have to deal with Cliff. Oh.. and the never ending debate on whether Lin should start or better as a bench player. Thank God.

  • martan267

    Agree with you 100%. Lin really lives up to the old adage, “when life throws you lemons, you make lemonade.” Or in Lin’s case, “when your Coach and FO marginalizes you, you SQUEEZE out every minute of opportunity and blow them up to all star performances so they have no option but to almost DNP-CD you to stop you from drastically out shining and outplaying the starters.”

    Cliff did lie or seriously misled Lin from the beginning. He gets very little kudos on how Lin did this season. Lin did well IN SPITE of Clifford.

    I’m not concerned too much about the money. I think Lin moved fast to help out his new team be in a great position to get great assets. I think they told him that he will be one of the main components of the team and they will build a great supporting cast to make a run for the championship.

  • FrankW

    Like the tech bubble of 1999-2000 where value not based on realty, then came the dotcom crash? I think Lin will hold his value, the blue chip guy.

  • martan267

    Good point! The only reason he was able to play significant minutes were when injuries struck key players… Or when playing in front of the Chinese audiences during preseason. Otherwise, I think Cliff would have made him ride the bench oh so so much more. And Lin would have been S.O.L.

  • ProLin
  • Click Click

    I don’t know who PFV is, nor do I care. I’m not a fan of Clifford’s at all. In fact, I got flamed and hated on hard for criticizing Clifford on the Hornets subreddit after the season ended…

    It’s simply not true that Clifford didn’t keep his promise to Lin. He told Lin before Lin agreed to sign the contract that he will give Lin a chance to play and that he’ll be backing up Kemba. Clifford kept his promise. I don’t understand why people are still hating on Clifford and saying he lied to Lin, when he didn’t. He played Lin as a proper 6th man and more minutes than most bench players get.

    Clifford might not have trusted Lin and it was completely unfair to bench him at the end of game 6 and halfway through game 7. Lin was not allowed to overshadow Batum and Kemba because those are MJ’s franchise guys. Have you ever thought about that? Instead of constantly blaming Clifford for everything, maybe you should think about the fact that he was handcuffed and had to play politics, keeping Batum, Kemba, and MJ happy. There was unity among the team and very little ego because Lin was not allowed to take over and replace Kemba or Batum as the starter.

    Why still be mad and bitter about Clifford when Lin himself said last year was the most happy he’s ever been since playing with his high school team? Why complain about his contract when Lin himself doesn’t care and agreed to it? It’s not Lin was mistreated in Charlotte like he was in Houston and Lakers. Hornets organization helped him rehab his reputation and career. Just let it go man. Having so much resentment inside you is not healthy and constantly bringing it up on this forum is really annoying.

  • martan267

    I am eternally grateful to the Hornets fans, though. If it weren’t for them, I would have lost all hope that there was anything good about the NBA. Brought back my faith that there are intelligent, appreciative fans out there that are not biased, racist, and bought by FO or the NBA. Thank you Hornets fans!

    No thank you to Cliff and FO…

  • Maknusia

    phew….dont want to see you turn blue! kiddin kiddin 🙂

  • psalm234

    can you please repost in the NBA Free Agency Moves thread?
    I know it takes time to get used to post to separate threads but it would help everyone 🙂

    http://www.jlinportal.com/2016-general-nba-free-agency-moves/

  • Click Click

    Just the first piece of the banana boat boys, coming together to form the NBA’s 2nd superteam…

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/the-banana-boat-boys-have-reunited-for-the-offseason-of-2016-062816

  • I am The Jason

    Lin’s tenure with the Lakers destroyed a lot of his perception in the NBA. Lin was label as nothing more than a backup at best. Lin’s market was extremely small. Clifford let Lin play his game coming off the bench. That is what Lin’s role was with Charlotte. Lin was never going to supplant Kemba. Lin’s season with the Hornets put him in the prime position he is in right now with the Nets.

  • ProLin

    oh oh oh, yes I will

  • Alaingrvis

  • Click Click

    Exactly. His role was 6th man and he far succeeded in his role there. In fact, Hornets might not have even made the playoffs and they definitely wouldn’t have won any games against the Heat if Lin wasn’t the 6th man. He led that bench so well and outplayed most other teams’ benches. That’s how Lin was able to be #10 on the list of best NBA +/- lineup… with a bunch of bench no-names on the Hornets. Who would’ve been the 6th man if Lin wasn’t going to be? He was brought onto the Hornets to be a 6th man, not to start or to take Batum’s and Kemba’s starting jobs.

    The important result is, Lin was actually wanted by teams this summer and now has his own team to lead. Hornets was never going to be Lin’s team. It was Kemba’s. The Nets is now Lin’s and Brook’s team. Lin finally got what he wanted and it couldn’t have happened without being allowed to play by Clifford.

  • sws94

    Thanks, Rocky. I’ll give them a call then. Glad it worked out for you.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The first game that Lin was allowed to be the PG was the game against Cleveland that clobbered Walker every time without exception. After the monumental game that Lin played more than even with Kyrie Erving, Lin was immediately put back on the bench. Lin, you showed too much of your potential. Remember you are just a one year rental.

    Damn, how many Hornets records are broken by Lin?

  • james brown

    i read somewhere that there was a signing bonus for Lin at the amount of 25% of his salary.(not sure about the percentage) plus a win bonus and Playoffs bonus and performance bonus if in case he performed well..(subject for verification)

  • james brown

    and he was the only one that was given such kind of agreement/contract to accommodate Nets making a good roster this year. Its a win win situation for both parties indeed!

  • Jamie

    Lol this guy is hilarious
    also a biiiiiiigg Trump supporter like paul but a smart and reasonable one

  • james brown

    can miami make another contract for TJ dismissing the offer sheet by the nets? and if not, so miami has to bite the bullet to retain the player?

  • james brown

    did he played as wade back up or gorans?

  • Rick James

    it was awesome how much love he got from the hornets fans though, they all seemed very sad about it. Small market teams really are the best!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    To put things short, I’m trying to compile a list of Hornets record broken by Lin. Real Lin fans, please pitch in. Don’t wait.

    (1) Lin is the first starting Hornet PG to beat LeBron James and company.

  • james brown

    i think JLin signing as immediate as possible was one way of showing consideration for people who followed him..

  • Ben Johnson

    FIrst Hornet to lead the team to 3 straight playoff wins?

  • Rick James

    hehe…its funny what happens when a real star like jlin can do when he comes to a semi decent team with a competent coach…ie tons of broken records

    -beating cavs, beating raptors, beating spurs (this one was huge), leading scorer in hornets first playoff win, kept them afloat in hornets second playoff win, made big time plays in getting hornets 3rd playoff win.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    enough to cover Bosh’s contract?

  • Rick James

    I doubt it…i think at some point even cliff came to a realization how important lin was to the team. I think it was when lin torched raptors for 35, or when he brought back the team from the second biggest deficit in hornet history (against the SPURS!!), or even when he beat the cavs. Cliff figured out that hornets needed lin, and he rode him out like secretariat as much as he could.

  • sport

    Doesn’t hid the fact that Cliff called Lin “he’s been a bench player his entire career” and purposely marginalized him like any other coach when he should’ve started. Lin got his big contract on his own abilities and previous relations with Atkinson not because of the Cliff who was obviously another hater and yes man coach like Mchale. In fact Cliff copied Mchale and Rockets’ playbook of how to marginalize Lin to a tee!

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    True. TJ for one would prefer Nets over Knicks for the same money.

  • Click Click

    LOL no. He agreed asap because he already had his mind made up way before that night. He agreed so fast to give Marks as much time as he could to make more moves and craft a team around Lin and Brook that can win games next year. Also, Nets was putting pressure on Lin by faking interest in Jennings and Rondo. Lin cares about us fans a lot, but we’re not the reason why he agreed so quickly.

  • Rick James

    its politics…what do you expect him to say? Cliff- “Yes lin is better than kemba, he should be the real starter not kemba”. Cliff would lose his job the next day, after MJ fire his azz. I think this was difficult for cliff too, seeing how lin played BIG in big games, and he had to margilinize lins accomplishments to not upset the order/heirarch.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Tyler definitely should be the SG. Lin could make those assists easy.

  • Lam

    I think Hornets fans already know that Lin is a great loss to the team and will have impact on their push for playoffs this year. To quote a regular poster at the Hive :
    “Yes, we lost a big impact player in Lin, who can do a little bit of everything, shoot, score, penetrate, run the team…clutch when needed…and not afraid to take over…and ability to come through big when needed…like he did in the playoffs after 2 losses…..we lost a guy who can lead the team. So that’s a big loss.”

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Cliff simply doesn’t want the Hornets to go into 2nd round of the playoff with JLin. He down right knows that his team next season couldn’t.

  • Click Click

    Yeah majority of Hornets fans were awesome. Of course there were haters and people that were afraid Lin was a threat to Batum’s and Kemba’s starting jobs. But those were the minority of Hornets fans.

  • FreetheMind

    Yeah it was good to see Hornets fans embraced him. They know basketball and they also more someone like Lin don’t come around very often.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Just tell me how many Knick’s teammates during Linsanity are still in NBA. Not many! Now Jeremy is blossoming as the starting PG despite all those double-standard trash thrown against him. The recent one. Lin is paid Steve Curry’s salary. Starting PGs nowadays who doesn’t get paid more than Curry? Very few.

  • Lam

    God, Bryon Scott isn’t qualified be to be a sports commentator. Hope his coaching career is now dust.

  • Morlock O

    He is a natural SG, but I am quite sure nets will try him at PG at times… he will be a harden lite… both are also left handed… but Johnson is better in defense and athleticism… lets just hope for the best… salary wise is about the same (only 500k per year diff) as Jlin so I’m not really worried.

  • Rick James

    hornets fans really are some of the best in the nba. Way better than trash in houston.

  • Lam

    Agree,classy and very knowledgeable.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Byron Scott is the trash of the trash holding the one of the all time worst coaching records in NBA if you don’t count those coach disappearing after their first season. Oh yes, he is still better than Brett Brown!

  • Jamie

    Gonna miss everything about Charlotte except that coach who is in fact completely useless when game is on the line.
    But overall, it was a good experience for Lin fans after Lin being the scapegoat for 3 consecutive years.
    Still, Clifford was an imbecile

  • Briiick

    Clicks…

  • Morlock O

    I’m just happy he got his starting job… hope he plays at least 32 minutes a game this time… I predict 15 pts 7 rebounds… and playoff appearance.

  • grover chang

    23 point deficit comback win. Largest comeback against Duncan in Tim Duncan’s career.

  • Ben Johnson

    oh yeah, that’s a good one

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    It would be funny if next season the Hornets is ousted by the Nets in the playoff run.

  • Click Click

    Too many Lin fans around here are blinded by their love of Lin and wanting what’s best for him to ever consider or totally ignore the complex political realities of multi-million dollar sports organizations where the owner, board members, share holders, GM, etc. has to always be kept happy or you’re out of a job as a head coach.

    Clifford was never going to sacrifice his own job for Lin, especially because he knows Cho and MJ never had Lin in their long-term plan for the future of the team. Cho/MJ got Lin on a super cheap rental and promised him they’d give Lin playtime so he can rehab his career. In return, Lin would help the team win and create “buzz” for the franchise. Both parties delivered on their promises and Lin left Charlotte super happy, now with an opportunity to lead his own team.

    Really don’t get the deep-seeded hatred and resentment for Clifford around here. Seems like every day or every couple of days, people would go on a Clifford rant and hate-fest would ensue. Disappointing to see it keep happening and so many actually support this behavior. McHale and Scott deserves the hate, but even with those 2 jobless coaches, it’s pointless to keep hating on them too. What’s done is done. Just move on a look forward to the bright future ahead for Lin.

  • grover chang

    LOL, too late

  • Rick James

    excellent post! Should be featured at the top where everyone can read!

  • sport

    There’s a saying ” If you don’t have anything “nice” to say don’t say anything”. What Cliff say was very insulting and indirectly saying bench player was all Lin could achieve”.

  • Rick James

    in the media, not saying anything is a confirmation of the truth. Sad but true. Its how people say “no comment”, every one will infer the truth whether you like it or not and make alot of people uncomfortable.

  • sport

    Because Cliff pretend he “knew” Lin’s game and gave him false hope that he would start if he played well. In reality he did the same thing as Mchale, even allowing a rookie to start before Lin!

  • Click Click

    Provide proof of where Clifford ever promised Lin he’d have an opportunity to start or that he ever gave Lin false hope he’d start. What rookie started ahead of Lin?

  • Rick James

    there were a few times I was upset with him, especially game 7 of playoffs when kemba suxing. He should have played lin a lot more minutes. Even game 6, cliff should have played lin in the final minutes of the 4th quarter. He might not know it, but even lin played bad, the team felt much more confident in themselves with lin on the floor than when hes off!

    There were also alot of games in the regular season where I felt he should have used lin more, and that lin could have gotten the team the win if allowed to. Still, he is human and I give him the benefit of the doubt..I will not say he didn’t marginilize lin, but he obviously knew how important lin was to the team!

    Other than that, I have to give credit where credit is due, cliff was the best coach lin has had in the nba since MDA…PERIOD!

  • Rick James

    no point conversing with the blind. They will not accept anothers view or are not even open to it! They live in their own world and have their own beliefs. Sort of like TRUMP and his followers.

  • Click Click

    Let’s not bring Trump / Hillary crap into this debate. There are other places to discuss those heated topics.

  • sport

    He couldn’t said something else to avoid the question instead of insulting Lin that’s for sure.

  • Rick James

    I agree with this actually, some people are not good with words in high pressure situations. I am one of those and alot of times I regret saying things LOL!

  • sport

    Pretty sure there were more than a few times. It was so bad that I stopped watched Hornets game entirely until playoffs came. By then we knew exactly fans could predict when Lin would be marginalized.

  • Click Click

    To end this stupid Clifford debate and hate train that keeps happening everyday or every few days, watch Lin’s exit interview over and over and over again until you people finally get it through your brains that Cliff did not lie to Lin about his role on the team. Fast forward to 4:46 and listen to Lin’s own words before you lie about Cliff lying to Lin again:

    http://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2016/05/02/1462212273508-Exit-Interview—Jeremy-Lin.mp4-491582

  • vincent

    do you guys think Lin has been training much?usually he posts stuff on his facebook or twitter regarding his workouts

  • sport

    Please without Lin, Hornets they won’t even make it to playoffs. I can already predict Batum thinking he can play SG will be moved back to his original SF position with Lin gone.

  • sport

    That’s too little I predict 20pts at least if Lin gets 32-35 minutes a game.

  • sport

    Cliff also joked that players could get him fired or something along those lines. Pretty sure that’s how truly how he feels. A coach afraid of being fired and propping up a a fake volume shooter as a star will eventually get fired (ex: Mchale, BS). Mark my words Cliff will get his share of Karma.

  • Rick James

    I hope so…the coming season is likely the biggest test of his career. He needs to work hard and put in alot of effort. This opportunity at starting might not come again.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    What Nets need right now is 4 and 3.
    There are still a few available: David Lee is the first one pops into my mind.

  • Rick James

    I hope not..I would not mind if lin comes back to play for cliff some time in the future. He is also correct…coach cliff is not the boss of the team, the players have much more clout. I personally trust him and lin does as well. If lin is a starter on cliffs future team then I would not have any big problem with that.

  • Chris B.

    Lin ain’t getting 7 rebounds unless he grows another 6 inches over the summer.

  • Ben Johnson

    The 3 is fine with Bog and RHJ…Booker is probably better than anyone out there right now for a Linsanity type system…David Lee is in decline and plays no D…they do need a starting level SG, Crabbe would be the best best, one of the top 5-10 best catch and shoot/stand still shooters in the league right now

  • Ulysses Modder

    I would like Boris Diaw and Crabbe

  • zxcvb

    Yes. He trains all the time, even during his Asia tour, whether or not he posts about it.

  • zxcvb

    I’d take Kris Humphries at PF. Very good rebounder and good midrange jumper.
    Also: Gerald Green at SF/SG. He’s 6-8 and insanely athletic, perfect for Lin alley-oops. Streaky 3pt shooter.

  • freemind

    700-1000 shots daily when back in Cali

  • Briiick

    If Cliff didn’t keep his promise which I believe to be true to certain extent, it was due to the pressure from MJ and the management. Cliff seems to be a fan of Batum, not Walker.

  • james brown

    mayube this is not a proof, but the word came from JLIN himself after he did signed with hornets and was interviewed afterward:
    link:http://www.jlinportal.com/candid-interview-jeremy-lin/

    Partial quote on the translation of the interview:
    “QQ Sports: You also mentioned
    you had a long talk with Clifford. Did he talk with you about whether
    you will start or come off the bench because Kemba plays at the starting
    1, and things like you will be at 1 or 2? Are there definitive answers
    to those questions already?

    Lin: He said if I was asking him now,
    then I would come off the bench, But he emphasized if I play well and
    the team needs me to start, then he wouldn’t limit me to a bench player.
    The coach also said he will let me play with Kemba for a long time and
    even if I don’t play well in Charlotte, he will give me a lot of room to
    play with mistakes.”

    this was JLIN impression on Cliff’s handing and offerig to JLIn the opportunity to play with the hornets.

    pls read the entirety of the interview if you haven’t done it yet..

  • james brown

    they like him as a person and as a player they are willing to retain him unless he accept a cheap price? i think thats conflicting views coming from hornets fans.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Rebounds is not only about height!

  • Rick James

    they wanted to retain lin to fit the cap so that he can return next season and hornets pay him much more money when they have his bird rights. Its possible hornets maybe even paid him MORE than what nets are paying him, especially considering austin rivers got such a big contract even though he is a scrub.

  • james brown
  • Click Click

    Well, Clifford delivered on that promise. He did end up starting Lin for 13 games. He also played Lin alongside Kemba for 30% of the Hornets’ minutes all season.

    Notice how Lin said “the team needs me to start?” That means if an injury happens and someone has to sit. Lin did not say “Clifford told me I could replace Batum or Kemba if I played well.”

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Lol

  • Rick James

    jeremiah17, I don’t know if you intentionally troll or not, either way I am grateful to cliff for saving lin’s career. He may not have been perfect, but he was good enough! Comparing Cliff to Mchale and BS is not even a competition my friend!

    Lin getting only $12M is not cliffs fault, it is 100% the fault of lin for not waiting for other teams to offer more money. If lin only cared about money, I am almost 100% certain that rockets would have paid double the offer nets made. They are DESPERATE for a point guard that fits with harden…a player like lin who played with harden before and has improved in every single way would have been extremely valuable to the rockets. Of course no one here wanted lin to return to cesspool, but this is the TRUTH! Lin chose much less money to go to atkinson and the nets.

  • james brown

    whats the reason why cliff started lin on those 13 games? was it because he played well or its because of injury? if its because of injury , i can’t say its voluntary on the part of cliff because he was Forced to play him as a starter due to the fact that one on those injured was vital to the balance of the team.

    Cliff has opportunity to voluntary start JLIN on PJ’s case but because of certain issues on his mind i guess, he opt to make him still a bench player. That is in relation with the principle that you start you’re best players…but with other reason, i guess cliff was just doing what cliffs wants to do as a coach.

  • Maknusia

    To me at least…CC fulfilled those promise…you can check the league minutes for 6th man or backup PG, Lin is pretty much top or top 2 in minutes.

    Could CC have utilized Lin better, answer is yes, but that didnt make him come short in his promises

  • Maknusia

    hmmm

  • Lin Dunn

    How about watch the joint Clifford/ Lin interview on 7/15/15. Clifford kept talking about Lin’s size, versatility and play making. At 2:50, Lin seems to have the impression that he is allowed to create plays and attack the rim. No Lin fans expect Clifford to start Lin over KW. But the letting Lin to play his game is the impression.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jeremy+lin+steve+clifford+first+interview&&view=detail&mid=71BAD985DB1CC00CA1C671BAD985DB1CC00CA1C6&FORM=VRDGAR

  • swijaya

    Believe 15 tps and 7 assists will be more likely to happen.

    Do not really care for points scored too much, as long as he makes the team better – as mentioned by the controversial , but knowledgeable KHUANG – the highest double digits scored by his team mates & W …. off course

  • TTNN

    follow his snapchat then. you will know

  • james brown

    but it can be also understood that JLIN’s might thought that such starting position was because he was playing well and not just patch up work to stay as a bench player? if cliff start him on his presumption, he will remain starting because he gave his best and such best was seen by cliff.

    starting because of injury is not a reward but a temporary relief that a player knew he will be back to where he was originally when such emergency stop, BUT starting because he was playing well is a reward that JLIN knew would happen later if he submit his great performance and not a tem[porary one.

    we know the JLIN always signed with the thought of starting on a team, and if there is a possibilities, he will take those chances. Hornets was a year rental, jlin knew and accepts well, but he was not remiss on showing how he can help the team for sure!

  • Lam

    Yes, I remembered early in the season when the starters were digging holes. Without the benchforce1 coming to the rescue, Hornet would not have made it to the playoffs.

  • SeaKing33

    Justin Hamilton looks like a solid add as well!

  • Maknusia

    To me at least…..Lin knows well, he is not gonna take over Kemba’s job. ANd Lin had mentioned this many times. CC had used Lin in alot during Q4. The first half of the season, Lin closed majority of the game and had long minutes Q4.

    That says alot…or at least keeping his bargain of using Lin when Lin steps up

  • Maknusia

    true…CC let Lin run BF1 and those wins did indeed contribute to playoff birth

  • james brown

    a slower version of zeller though i like him better than zeller..LOL!

  • Click Click

    So moderators, are there going to be any punishment handed out to 7Jeremiah17 for calling me stupid and arrogant, while saying Lin’s basically a liar because he wants to say the right things to the media?

    http://i.imgur.com/cK3I1Sc.png

  • TVN

    Humphries is a last option kind of guy. If no one else takes the money, he’ll probably be there. He’s such a lousy defender, though.

    I’d rather gamble on an Anthony Bennett, who’s still young enough to get it together.

  • SeaKing33

    Zellar was pretty athletic, but Hamilton can shoot which is a HUGE plus.

  • james brown

    but sadly it did change dramatically when Lee arrived and majority of cliffs decision cater more to Lee than with LIN..

  • Lin Dunn

    It is fine to be the 6th man. But Lin was not allowed to make plays or play his game while he was on the floor. J. Crawford is an example of a 6th man in the Clipper team, and he was used appropriately as 6th and allowed to play his game, likewise Manu.

  • TTNN

    uh, we all know Clifford said that Lin could not only back up KW, but also play with KW. And he said that Lin will play together with KW a lot.

    But when MKG was hurt and there was no starting SG, and Clifford starting PJ over Lin, that’s pretty telling.

    It is obvious that when the best opportunity for Lin to play together KW, coach Clifford eat his word.

    I don’t think we would anticipate to hear Lin say the truth when he is still on the team, and then when Lin left the team, it is not that important for him to say that anymore.

    So, yeah, what Lin said in his exit interview, really don’t mean anything, he said he want to go back to Hornets too, we all know that won’t happen.

  • james brown

    i go for the thought process of favoring LIN on his words rather than justifying others act detrimental and prejidicial to lin’s interest

  • takeme2cruz

    He did say he wants to go back to the Hornets but within the first hours of freedom, he couldn’t even wait to announce leaving. That tells all the true how he felt for being lied.

  • james brown

    we all know that your voice will be rosy before you leave from a team not to burn any bridges only by to those who are of High Character players..

  • TTNN

    you do know that Lin could not say everything he thought or everything he know, right?

    I of course favoring Lin’s words, but I don’t take it word for word though. I have my own eyes, and use my own brain.

  • takeme2cruz

    While you used the f word to me?

  • Ben Johnson

    Yeah, he has a really nice shot, should hit at least 36-38% of these 3s in the NBA

  • james brown

    i was so disappointing whenever lin give him the ball just to dunk it and he still missed those easy ones…

  • Click Click

    Lin did play with Kemba for 30% of the Hornets’ entire team minutes together. For a 6th man to be playing with the starting PG that you’re supposed to be backing up, that’s a ton of minutes.

    So now you’re also insinuating that Lin’s a liar in front of the media as well? Because he always has to put up a front and say the right things, eh?

    He said there’s no doubt in his mind he wants to be back with the Hornets and it’s true… until Kenny Atkinson most likely spoke to Lin about wanting him on the Nets. People change their minds, especially after an emotional season just ended. It doesn’t mean he was lying to the media just to make Hornets fans love him.

    Some of you Cliff haters really grasp at straws and are now even saying Lin’s lying to the media and us fans, as if his words don’t mean anything. It’s really sad to see so many people’s blind hatred of Cliff cloud your reasoning and judgement here.

  • Maknusia

    yup…bcoz Lin was not in their bigger picture…its their lost

  • 7Jeremiah17

    That’s just not accurate. Lin’s damaged reputation by the tanking Lakers is exaggerated. The truth is Lin was all set to be the STARTING PG of the Mavs until the DJ situation blew up. By that point, Lin’s second and third choices were off the table. He still had better offers than what the Hornets actually planned for him but Cliff convinced Lin that he would get very favorable conditions in exchange for a big discount.

    Everyone agrees that Lin wasn’t expecting to replace Kemba but he was supposed to play alongside. Once MKG went down he should have been starting SG over PJ. He should have gotten more minutes to run the point instead of Kemba often playing 40 minutes etc.

    Lin is in the position he’s now in despite the broken promises of Cliff. Being an actual PG backup for just about any other team wild have been better than playing for the Hornets.

  • Click Click

    I never used any f word on you. Nice job lying. You’re such an obvious troll.

  • TTNN

    More like Kaminsky.

  • takeme2cruz

    You did then edited. Now I know you’re also a coward.

  • TTNN

    No David Lee please, they need a stretch 4.

  • Maknusia

    I guess, you captured that faster than me deleting the post.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Lin being given the chance was only incidental when the preferred and coddled so called stars of Hornets was out injured or simply took time off/sidelined themselves on some sort of ‘injuries’ for some tough games which could very well be loses if they played. Haha

  • cdblue10

    This guy improved a lot since after his Minnesota tenure,he has range now,the footwork was better.Zeller is more athletic but this guy had a better range.PnR is his bread and butter and he’s a good partner for Lin when Lopez is resting.

  • Maknusia

    ok guys…this stops here….plz

  • SeaKing33

    I know…there were a ton of assist Lin could have gotten if only his big mans (besides Al) could just finish at the rim…

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Bench force 1 was broken up by Cliff because it was embarrassing the starters. Stop posting revisionist history to defend precious Cliff.

  • Click Click

    Yes, because you allow these trolls and haters to continue to pollute these boards with their hatred of Clifford and then flaming anyone that disagrees with them. Something should be done about it, but I doubt anything will be.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Until he disbanded BF1 because it was embarrassing the starters. Surely you remember.

  • takeme2cruz

    Pls read his tone and tell him or her

  • Maknusia

    The above is meant to all this personal attacks back and forth… @disqus_ofjj1NSn9P:disqus @Jeremiah717:disqus

  • james brown

    its given, JLIn is a classy in Basketball politics and i get where you’re coming from,

    looking at the thought process of a person needs analysis rather than blindly following him to the letter. Words has 2 meaning , extrinsic and intrinsic..EXTRINSIC are easy discernble thought, just like when he said, he like “In and OUt”, but intrinsic word are hard to analyze for you need to look on many factors to arrive on a conclusive definition of his statements.

    as against his words with other interprtation, i go for JLIn’s words as favoring him and not the other party.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    I’ve posted it several times already. Do you have amnesia?

  • Maknusia

    Folks….as mentioned below….any more of these personal attacks….i would need to reopen the vacation house

  • Click Click

    takeme2cruz also called me nasty names. Nothing was done about it except to delete his comments against me. Now he’s here starting crap again, saying I cursed him out when I didn’t and that I’m a coward. Unbelievable.

  • Maknusia

    I dont think its bcoz embarrassing the starters…having that…one could read either way…so of you feel thats how its in your book….so be it

  • takeme2cruz

    I only responded after you used the f word on me.

  • james brown

    that was the final nail on the coffin where cliff finally utter silently to LIN that what i thought before that i like you as my player now change for i find another that i like better!

  • 7Jeremiah17

    Exactly!

  • TTNN

    you go ahead then. I don’t agree with you, but don’t really need to change your thought, you have the right to keep yours.

  • 7Jeremiah17

    This post shows me that you’re delusional. Thank goodness for the new block function.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. A self respecting coach ought to have resigned if team politics does not allowed you to start arguably your best player after you promised to start him if he perform well being your team most impactful player. When MKG went down that is the opportunity right there to start your most impactful player if your are not a biased nor an inept coach. Haha

  • TTNN

    yeah, he sounds like a troll, and obviously they was faking the “Click Click” ID to pretend his is the Lin fan on Reddit site.

    How to use block function?

  • takeme2cruz

    And 99% of that 30% was to stand in the corner.

  • Click Click

    http://i.imgur.com/5aoIZGc.png

    Gonna let it keep happening?

  • Maknusia

    The vacation House had been opened…Jeremiah is the first visitor….

    I wont hesitate to bring others in as well…

    Folks comeon…why is it so difficult to have a matured discussion without calling name and personal attack.

    Most of you here are old timers and know the forum rules well!

  • Click Click

    Anyway, I’ll be taking time away from these boards. It’s obvious that the same posters who constantly start trouble and flame fests are allowed to persist and get away with it. It’s sad to see this Lin fan community turn out this way. I tried ignoring these people before whenever they called me nasty names, but enough is enough. If you moderators and administrators don’t want to clean up this place, then I will just post my opinions elsewhere.

  • TTNN

    Do need to be careful for guys trolling and baiting people into it though.

  • DrewBear2

    I went through this whole thing a month or so before you. It’s futile. We’re looking at the same animal, but one sees a pet while the other sees a dangerous predator. One sees a blue sky, the other sees gray. We sip from the same cup, but one tastes sweetness and the other bitterness.

    It took a while, but I finally decided that it’s not worth my effort. I wish you well if you choose otherwise, but I’ve found it more enjoyable for me personally to just ignore inflammatory language. I figuratively shake my head and move on. You can’t agree with everyone and not everyone can disagree while staying civil.

  • Morlock O

    I clearly recall it was broken up because of injuries…

  • Morlock O

    Sorry I meant assists not rebounds

  • Maknusia

    I need a cup of coffee now…..

  • Rick James

    very wise words! This post should be posted at the top as well! Leave it on the home page so everyone understands!

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. IMO you are pretty good with your posting in the sense that you managed to consider your kindself to be Lin fans on these site despite some perceived not so positive post which may be quite annoying at times. Sorry in advance if I read somw of your posting wrongly. Haha

  • DrewBear2

    Thanks for trying. I know moderating is often a thankless task.

  • Click Click

    It’s a disgusting to have to constantly read hatred on these boards. Certain people here are no better than those racist Lin haters on Clutchfans who are still to this day, hating on Lin. Just let it go people. So much anger, animosity, negativity, and resentment is not healthy for both yourself and this community.

    Anyway DrewBear, you’ve been a great poster and I’ve enjoyed my time conversing with you and sharing my opinions with those logical and reasonable Lin fans like you here. It’s sad that such a happy time for Lin is being ruined by a few trolls who constantly spew hatred and negativity here, never happy for Lin and always drumming up the past.

  • psalm234

    Thank u for looking into it & taking swift action.

    I am still away from my machine but I will also look into it

    Thank you

  • Rick James

    I dont even mind his irrational hate of cliff, he probably can not accept anyone as a good coach for lin..now or in the future. But the personal attack has gone too far in my opinion.

  • james brown

    actually, i am not disagreeing with you and maybe misunderstood the last statement i made. when theres a clear definition on JLINs words given all factors to consider, then i follow his thoughts rather than other interpretation because in the final analysis, it was coming from jlin himself.

    however, i take other general statement he made with a grain of salt considering especially where such statement was coming from and what experiences jeremy went through to make those statement..reading between the lines!

    out of curiousity, where in my previous statements were you disagreeing??was it all..LOL!

  • Maknusia

    exactly…everyone entitile to theor opinion but personal attack is way too childish…..anyone has issue with a poster just bring it to us (Mods) rather than engaging to further attacks…

  • Maknusia

    hahaha…np

  • casual bb fan

    LOL. “Hahaha! I am very confused now as who is actually trolling”
    Haha cheers.

  • TTNN

    oh, wow, look at their banner.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GoNets/

  • DrewBear2

    I have limited experience with forums, but it’s spread over many years (all the way back to AOL boards). Sadly, such flame wars happen just about everywhere at some point. I understand your need to take a break, but hopefully you don’t stay away too long. I appreciate your contributions here.

  • Maknusia

    sweet! BrookLin

  • ProLin

    I gotta say, although still some nay-sayers, the Nets fans has been pretty awesome so far. Very little racist crap and more and more are beginning to have hope in the team. They were so bad for so long, I’m so happy Lin’s here to change their fortune.

  • ProLin

    thanks for keeping trolls out of here..

  • james brown

    theres a kaminsky on him too, but i really don’t like kams game(developing an arrogant stand later maybe), so i think its zeller/kams game merged in one player..Cheap..LOL!

  • ProLin

    dude, this place is much better than the other place already..

  • ProLin

    yeah please make sure this is not like the other place. I go there because I have a thick skin and I can deal with trolls, but seeing them derailing conversations on personal crap gets really tiring.

  • Elon Musk

    banner on this one is pretty cool too haha

    https://www.reddit.com/r/JLin7/

  • ProLin

    nice touch on the guy but I wonder how he’ll deal with NBA defense.

  • james brown

    divergence of opinion is a welcome relief because we can learn more with such environment for as long as we don’t force our opinion with others and leave a respect with others opinion too.

    this forum seems much a better place than others forum where attacking poster is the order of battle everyday..LOL!

  • Hope

    Disque has block feature. Use that and no need for moderator. Since jlin is back in nyc, it’ll be more fun if all lin fans just post on original forum.

  • TTNN

    yeah, I don’t feel Lin was this accepted before the deal, but after Lin took a way nice deal to Nets, I think they just took him in. I don’t love Lin’s contract, but love the Nets fan base’s reaction.

    So, maybe there is a reason Lin take it this way, way easier to enter that team. And things will go smoother.

  • Uh-Oh

    Bye!

  • ProLin

    yeah I don’t know how many face-palms I have seeing that.. seriously dude, how does a tall guy like you miss easy dunks like that. You’ve barely jumped.

  • ProLin

    nah, both places has need to exist because some prefer nicer place and some prefer heated exchanges.

  • TTNN

    yeah, just figured that out, could be useful.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. I don’t think there was faking of interest in Jenning nor Rondo. Jenning was considered for a backup slot and for Rondo case, he was not even considered at all by Nets.

  • Uh-Oh

    Jeremiah happens to have the good gut to calling out the right ones. Have a great time in your vacation house! I will visit you when I can. Haha. Cheers!

  • TTNN

    LOL

  • Maknusia

    ooooh ya… @psalm234:disqus has work to do on the banner….hahaha…fans help and suggestions as usual would come in handy!

    Folks, if you have any idea…do design them post it….if we receive overwhelming response, probably we would create a separate thread on it. We have time…so rush…we need not!

  • Maknusia

    ready go?!…..hahaha

  • Uh-Oh

    I am already there! Its so lovely here with palm trees, crystal sand, aqua blue sky and yummy raw fish. Hope to see you here soon too!

  • Yascar

    Have a break, my friend. You deserve it.

  • Maknusia

    here?!!

  • Maknusia

    lol…having one with @Uh-Oh

  • Uh-Oh

    Exactly there, right behind the tree is me naked doing the sun bath. Come join me!

  • Maknusia

    shhhhh!

  • ProLin

    The contract is win-win bro. Lin will get his big payday 2 years later. Nets gets more cap space this year. Everyone wins.

  • psalm234

    Let me give a fresh reminder for users about the importance to observe our forum rules because heated exchange can escalate into fights.

    We are about to embark on an exciting chapter in JLin’s next journey and we would hate to enforce a short-term ban or even permanent bans on long-time Lin fans but we won’t hesitate to do so for recurring offenders. Fights and personal attacks take away precious real estate of discussion from other users.

    Rule 1. We take the “Be Polite & Be Respectful” rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.
    No cursing/swearing or any substitute/variation. Keep the language to PG to be family-friendly.

    Even if you disagree vehemently with others’ opinion, refrain yourself from launching personal insults breaking Rule 8.
    Calling others ‘trolls’, ‘delusional’, ‘moron’ would quickly result to your posts getting deleted as a form of warning and if you don’t refrain yourself, receive short-term bans. Multiple violations will earn you permanent bans

    Mods have full-time jobs and responsibilities so we can’t be here 24×7 to moderate every disagreement. We expect long-time users to observe the rules and new users to review them quickly. For new users, please review our forum rules.

    Let’s keep cheering for JLin and respect each others’ opinons. Thank you again for our mods who performed the thankless jobs.
    Great cheers to @maknusia:disqus! Let’s go, Brook-Lin! Let’s hope for the best to the Nets to surround Lin with talented teammates so they can reach the playoff next season

    http://www.jlinportal.com/website-rules-must-read/

  • Rick James

    no problem, I am a lin fan from the bottom of my heart. However I always feel he is is a human that is all, not a god/idol as some people here take him as. So while I may worship him sometimes as a fan, I try not to get carried away and look at things in with an open mind. Sometimes other lin fans read those posts and think im a lin hater, but this is not true…i just try not to see the world in only black and white. There are many many more colors to this world to be seen.

  • psalm234

    Kudos to Hornets fans/blogs for defending Lin after he departed.
    I’ve never seen Lin’s fanbase/blogs defending him a lot after he left.

    @HornetsSwarm
    Sessions doesn’t have ability to take over games like @JLin7 (see vs #Spurs) and a far lower ceiling… #WinWithLin
    >> @Kroeger Sessions is competent PG option for #Hornets. Lin was great, but he disappeared for long stretches too. Sessions should be more even-keeled.

    https://twitter.com/HornetsSwarm/status/750090010251132928
    https://twitter.com/Kroeger/status/750065578296111105

  • Maknusia

    lol…whatever! will see when we ball!

  • psalm234

    According to NY Post, the Nets is watching DWade’s negotiation with the Heat closely to see if they might match the Nets offer to Tyler Johnson.
    Wade asked for a 3rd year after being low-balled by the Heat

    Getting Crabbe from Portland will be tougher as they declined pursuing Festus Ezeli from GSW to focus on him and other young players.

    Several players the Nets were targeting are headed elsewhere in the division.

    Real Madrid PG Sergio Rodriguez, who’d lost interest when they signed Lin but they continued to pursue for a backup role, agreed to a deal with the 76ers. Brandon Jennings, who is believed to have canceled Friday’s scheduled workout when they reached an agreement with Lin, came to terms with the Knicks, as did forward Lance Thomas.

    https://twitter.com/jlai4747/status/750232159198154753

  • psalm234

    The Nets is dead-last in NBA Title Odds with 1000/1.
    Noone gives them a chance to reach the playoff.

    I would be interested to see what are the odds for the Nets to reach playoff.
    I’m not a gambling man but this could be a fruitful Linvestment!
    https://twitter.com/RJinVegas/status/750010310413606912

  • psalm234

    yeah, I want to see if Sessions can bail out the starters repeatedly like Lin did 🙂

  • Maknusia

    lol…I like 1000!

  • Maknusia

    He is a good player….but the thing is people on denial or fail to see…what Jeremy brings…especially elevating his team…thats intangible and hard to quantify if not given the key to fully operate.

    Lin is multi-dimensional compared to others who are only good or specialist on certain things…whereas Lin is not specialist or perfect on a single thing, but he has multiple weapon that he could discharge and a game changer

  • Ben Johnson

    I’ll will bet anybody who wants a million bucks that Sessions does not appear TWICE in the top 10 lineups in the NBA

  • casual bb fan

    I tend to agree with you here. IMO, there are still ‘hidden’ talented posters here who are effectively ghost bloggers ever waiting to get on the nerves of the fans in some subtle manner. Alas the annoyed fans probably need to be level headed or they may need to be put on ‘vacation’. I wish these ghost bloggers refrain from baiting fans here. Wishful thinking on my part here. Haha cheers.

  • psalm234

    Great point!

    We need to add these nice stats to the STATS thread

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Your kindself is subtly baiting again! Please bro, be more considerate may I request your kindself. The “now or in the future” gave you away. Thanking you in advance. Haha cheers.

  • Maknusia

    lol…you are reading too much into it

  • casual bb fan

    Ok fair enough. Anyways I trust my opinion. Thanks for your reply. Haha cheers.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    seems the Nets FO picked this guy with Linsanity in mind

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Anyone here watch EPL (English Premiere League)?
    Bookmakers put Leicester City odds of winning the EPL Championship at 5000/1.
    You know what? LFC won it in 2016. who knows, you can be a millionaire.

    Excerpts: http://www.mirror.co.uk
    Leicester have done it – THEY’VE WON THE PREMIER LEAGUE!
    That’s why we thought it might be worth reminding the world just HOW nuts it is to see Claudio Ranieri’s side create such mad history.

    How? By remembering that, on the first day of the season, Ladbrokes were offering odds of 5000/1 on Leicester to win the Premier League.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    JLin and Brook will make you a millionaire!!

  • JoeTeam

    And, I see Lin’s choices as wise for him. Rox would have destroyed his career … again. Some other time, with Harden outta there …

  • Lam

    I think the true odds are more like 1000 to 1. They use 5000 to 1 odds to suck people in. Unfortunately for them the Foxes pulled it off. Nets will be the next Lester, Lin will be MVP like Mahrez. Can’t see any Claudio equivalent though..

  • Lam

    Wow if Lin can pull this team by the scruff of the neck into the playoffs his value will skyrocket. Looks like nets is the new Philly of nba.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The difference is the NETS has no incentive to tank.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    LOL
    They couldn’t help it.
    All those excitement in the last five days really got into their vein.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    great fundamentals. Talking about court spacing.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    this guy can shoot 3s.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Brook Lopez was fourth in the league in points scored off the pick-and-roll!
    Lin was the guru in running pick-and-roll if he’s allowed to do that.
    Brook-Lin is a match in heaven. They are going to stay put for a long time.
    Talking about underdog, you couldn’t beat the Nets; dead last in NBA Title Odds.

  • CJSHYY

    What about they can try Lawson or AB?

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! To most of people, Nets will be the worst team in NBA next season. Those people probably don’t trust or never watched Lin’s game from Hornets last season. Low expectation is good. They will be very surprised when season starts …..

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    So far, the Nets has signed 4 players;
    Lin, Hamilton, Booker and Johnson.
    Now they can put these together with Brook Lopez which would be the most part of the starting five.
    So far the team has used their cap space to recruit FAs to cover the need of the team. The other source is from their drafts. It’s up to Atkinson to develop them in the Summer League. They have Isaiah Whitehead and last year’s players like Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Chris McCullough.
    Don’t know how long that Caris LeVert, their first rounder, could help?
    As to veterans, they still have Bojan Bogdanovic that could help.
    How many players that I have mentioned?
    Ten players already. A few more to go before they really used up their cap space to build up the depth of their team.

  • CJSHYY

    Johnson is not a done deal yet.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Almost done. Guess Miami Heats couldn’t match that after going through with Wade.

  • CJSHYY

    But Wade is not agree the deal w Heat yet.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Eventually the Heat would strike an agreement like last year.

  • CJSHYY

    Hope so.

  • Bulldog

    Not strong enough to compete within 6-feet in NBA.

  • Chris B.

    Even if they sign Wade, they can still keep TJ. Wade will be a 2 years deal. Their cap hit for TJ is only a couple of millions the first 2 years. It’s only the 3rd and 4th years that his cap will spike due to poison pill. By that time, Wade is already gone.

  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The rebuilding of the Nets is apparently more difficult than what we think. There are just too many holes to fill with the capspace they have.

  • SeaKing33

    Frank Kaminsky 6’11…Justin Hamilton 6’11…242 lb…265 lb…Not everyone’s gotta look like Dwight Howard

  • sws94

    I think that is completely wrong. Cliff wanted to team to go to the 2nd round. He just foolishly believed too much in Batum.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Overpaying definitely doesn’t help the Nets

  • sws94

    Lin was up and down. Can we realistically look at how many BAD games Lin had, how many single digit games, how many 2-9, 3-11s he had? Cliff trusted Lin time and time again in the clutch to play. Lin has plenty of 2-9s and so and Cliff brought him in the last 3 minutes to close games. Lin had periods where he just didn’t look right out there and other periods he looked like superman and that’s the quality Lin has that he needs to lessen to get him to the next level.

    We do very little objective analysis here. We do protective putting him on a pedestal sometimes,. I love it when Lin fans just look at his game and say these are his great qualities, this is what needs work, while still knowing we root for and believe in him.

    Coaches want to win and they aren’t always right. Sometimes a coach will have a player in whether or not he plays well, like Cliff did with Batum, other times he’ll play him in other roles or against matchups. Cliff didn’t go in thinking I’ll prevent Lin from playing he had a base time he’d play, around 24 minutes, and usually go up and down from there. But he did have his pets, play Walker too many minutes, Batum, and post ASB, Lee too much which impacted Lin.

    24 is too small for Lin. So move on and go to another team.

  • CJSHYY

    But that’s the only way bc there are so much money in the league… 76 have more than Nets.

  • sws94

    Lin isn’t a real star until he strings together a solid 82 game season. He has all-star, dare I say superstar games and periods of games, but he has too many down games to be a star. Hopefully, this is the year he strings together a solid 82 games with minimal bad games (single digit scoring, or if he has low scoring, he has high assists).

  • sws94

    If you look a personnel, there is a logic to the odds. However, basketball isn’t always logical. There are a lot of unknown elements on the Nets. But they may come together.

  • KHuang

    Nah, I think it’s EASIER than even the Nets realize.

    Having a player like Lin who is a “force multiplier” on both ends of the court, that allows a team to be creative and cheap with personnel because Lin consistently elevates players way beyond their ordinary production without him.

    The Nets are more likely to get a quality player out of summer league or cheap free agency than by chasing the expensive guys that don’t want to come to Brooklyn anyway.

  • sws94

    You don’t want Lawson. He’s not high-character. Plus, he’d think he was the starter over Lin. AB would be fine, but Tyler is a better solution. Big and strong, young. We’ll know in a few days if he stays a Net or if the Heat match.

  • KHuang

    If Chase Budinger’s health could be proven to be good, he’d be an ideal athletic pickup to combat the Lebrons and Iguodalas and Durants.

  • sws94

    I agree with both. As much as we love Lin, he’d have a few games at times where he’d not disappear, but just couldn’t get in sync. Sessions would not have as many like that. However, those superstar-level take over and step up games and become THE difference in games he doesn’t seem to have like Lin has. And he’s nowhere near the defensive player and tough, hard-nosed player Lin is.

  • sws94

    Yay! Beautifully put.

  • SeaKing33

    This was pretty interesting on the Tyler Johnson matter if anyone missed it.

    http://www.netsdaily.com/platform/amp/2016/7/4/12093332/will-the-miami-heat-match-on-tyler-johnson

  • sws94

    Hi Yascar! Great to see you posting.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Just look at the Nets’ roster, there is nobody who can play 3.

  • sws94

    Thank you. Some people just have to learn to disagree respectfully. That’s the key.

  • sws94

    That’s what bothered me. The childishness of name-calling. Just disagree, even strongly. Then, if you reach an impasse, move on.

  • casual bb fan

    Well said. I hope every fan can post here in a resposible manner without subtle comments to bait and annoy fellow posters. Thanking you in advance.
    IMO, quoting outlier negative stats which are common to most star players in some off games but trying to apply it to Lin in a negative way on him without stating the circumstances could be view as baiting a reponse from fan whom may be annoyed. Haha cheers.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Another “Harden” phenomenon? plse don’t let it happen again…

  • CJSHYY

    What? Harden? Why? He’s SF…

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Maybe one day Nets gonna retired Lin’s number 7 or 17…..that would be great!!

  • casual bb fan

    I am confused by your logic thingy. “Basketball isn’t always logical”! I would appreciate it if you could elaborate more on the unknown elements on the Nets. Thanking you in advance. Haha cheers.

  • DrewBear2

    And this is only the beginning. These players have yet to work together in a new system. The degree of difficulty is more like cliff diving in Acapulco, not like belly flopping in your own swimming pool.

  • FreetheMind

    Wade has yet to agreeing to a contract with the Heat. Wade is also thinking about joining LeBron in Cleveland. If Heat does not get Wade, will they match Johnson’s offer? They could very well be. I hope Nets has a plan B. Right now that looks like Crabbe.

  • takeme2cruz

    Based on the article, I was right yesterrday about the Heat would not match tj contract due to the way the salary cap hits. Plus it’s an overpriced the Nets are paying.

  • DrewBear2

    Do the bookies normally post odds on a team making the playoffs? I would imagine they would at least wait until most free agents have signed, maybe even wait until preseason.

  • lalalalala

    These are old quotes

  • takeme2cruz

    But the situation hasn’t changed.

  • DrewBear2

    Salaries are market driven. They are what they are. We can opine that this guy is over or underpaid, but only time will tell. Obviously the Nets think they can help Tyler develop into player worthy of a $19M salary in 2019-20. We’ll see.

  • lalalalala

    Yes it has. Wade is talking to CAVS and might join James there. If he does, Heat can and probably will match the offer for TJ

    Those quotes happened before KD decided to make a super team at golden state.

  • takeme2cruz

    You don’t mortgage your future based on only hope.

  • Kevin

    Hey Linsanity Fans,

    My name is Kevin and I work in group ticket sales for the Brooklyn Nets. We have some incredible deals we’re rolling out for the 2016-2017 season. If you want to save a ton of money on group tickets to come see Jeremy tear it up on the hardwood, please contact me at:

    Kevin Guidette
    Group Sales Account Manager
    Barclays Center | Brooklyn Nets | New York Islanders

    15 MetroTech Center, 11th Floor
    Brooklyn, New York 11201
    phone 718.942.9053
    fax 718.942.9595
    KGuidette@brooklynnets.com
    barclayscenter.com

  • DrewBear2

    Here are a few more names:
    PG: Ycgi Ferrell (Agreed to a contract with Brooklyn (BKN) – partially guaranteed)
    SG: Sean Kilpatrick
    Markel Brown (unsigned, $1.2M Qualifying Offer 6/29)
    C: Egidijus Mockevicius (1 year $543k contract – partially guaranteed June 26)

    Summer league roster: http://www.nba.com/nets/news/2016/07/04/brooklyn-nets-announce-summer-league-roster

  • takeme2cruz

    Not about if the heat can or can’t, it’s the team future salary cap. $20 mil will eat up their cap just for an unproven guard?

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Kevin, I am definitely interested. Please provide the details.

  • lalalalala

    They might be tempted if they lose wade, we will have to see

  • Linzen

    Can they pull this off? Don’t know about their cap situation…
    Anyway, my main concern is TJ… I think Heat will match the offer if DW is gone
    https://twitter.com/SN_Ohio/status/750185903151259649

  • Ben Johnson

    Hey mod, maybe u could sticky this and work out an arrangement to get some sort of cut from this deal?

  • negsintheair

    Guys, just remember season 11-12. Who was Jared Jeffries, who was Steve Novak, who was Landry Fields before Linsanity? But Under JLin they became great players!! So I think Jlin will turns this medium NET Roster into great!!

  • Linzen

    Great idea, Ben!

  • psalm234

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you for reaching out to loyal Jeremy Lin fans.
    Can we talk to about getting special group discount for Lin fans?
    We have a lot of Lin fans traveling to NY including from abroad so it would be helpful for a lot of us.
    I’m the owner of the site. We can certainly publish a special section on how to get season tickets or 3-4 games so it helps fans to plan.

    My email is jlinportal@gmail.com. We can discuss more via email.

    psalm234

  • DrewBear2

    I doubt they’re doing this based on “only” hope. They have a vision for the team and a plan of action. Everything in pro sports is a calculated, but educated risk. Some organizations are better at these calculations than others. We don’t know how this new management group will do.

  • psalm234

    yes, I will contact Kevin to see if we can get group discounts, not just season tickets but a few games tickets for some of us who will travel to Brooklyn 🙂

    It’s very nice of Kevin to reach out to us.

  • Peter Truong

    I think Wade is going to the Cavs after Durant decided to go to the Warriors.

  • CJSHYY

    I know LBJ will do something after KD went to GSW.

  • Parent of Lots of Kids

    Psalm, please make this happen! I live in the NY area and would participate in any group sale situations. I’ve got a lot of kids too and they too would love to participate.Thanks!

  • Linzen

    It’s a real possibility.
    Then, Heat will very likely match TJ’s offer. If things doesn’t work out, they can always trade him after the 2nd year (much like Lin’s situation). 😞

  • Maknusia

    I know…thats the reason I gave repeated chance….its just a short cooling period

  • DrewBear2

    Cavs are already paying luxury tax. Another $10-20M/year is chump change to Gilbert. JR & Shump would probably go.

  • Maknusia

    lol…thick skin it is

  • DrewBear2

    The Heat have a midnight July 6 deadline to match TJ’s offer, right? Let’s hope Cavs take their time.

  • psalm234

    awesome 🙂 Good for you. Don’t forget to share game reports with us.. haha
    Yes, I’ll talk to him to have special group sale for Lin fans
    If we have a permanent section on how Lin fans can buy tickets at awesome prices, it should them to plan well.

  • Rick Johnson

    May have to trade some players to shed cap and also James probably needs to take a pay cut. But he may not want to get beaten by the Warriors.

  • Maknusia

    Thanks for reaching out, Kevin

  • takeme2cruz

    Miami will lose wade, the can do sign and trade to get someone back from the Cavs.

  • CJSHYY

    Love?

  • takeme2cruz

    Possible

  • Kevin

    Hi Parent of Lots of Kids,

    Thanks for your response! Let’s jump on a call or follow up via email whenever you have a few minutes. I’m in the office M-F 8:30AM-6PM. My contact information is as follows:

    KGuidette@brooklynnets.com
    (718) 942.9053

    Best regards and I hope to touch base with you soon!

    Go Nets!

    Kevin

  • Linzen

    Sorry Kevin,
    Can you please verify yourself? I am afraid I don’t see your name listed on the Barclays Centre directory (Link below, Group Sales is half way down)

    Not saying that I don’t trust you. Please just verify.

    http://www.barclayscenter.com/arena/front-office

  • takeme2cruz

    Heat will not make $20 mil cap hit 2 years from now for their 3rd string backup.

  • Peter Truong

    Scroll down and you see his Pic, E-mail and Phone#. It matches what he put on here
    http://www.nba.com/nets/tickets/group-tickets/

  • takeme2cruz

    What a way to do business. That way nobody can leave til the deal is done.

  • Linzen

    ALL GOOD! THANKS PETER!
    Scare me a little when I didn’t his name on the other website…

  • KHuang

    Terrific compliment by Dwayne Wade to Tyler Johnson.

  • ViNuyork

    psalm—this legit???—if so, count us in too…..we are nuyorkers who would like to get barclay tickets instead of MSG…Please update us–thank you

  • KHuang

    Will not.

    Crabbe lacks the ballhandling skills to hog the PG position away from Lin.

  • heart

    Thanks Kevin for checking and posting on Lin Fan website and inviting us to Nets game. We’re excite for Lin and Nets. We’ll pass this on. You may want to post your info on other Lin fan websites, too. Thanks!

  • HVJoy

    The 2016 NBA off season is getting even more intriguing l after KD move.

  • Linzen

    Dan: Pen or parachute, your choice! 😈

  • KHuang

    Not all those new players will start.

  • KHuang

    Welcome, Nets spokesman.

    As a long suffering ex Knicks fan, I look forward to a great Nets season!

  • CJSHYY
  • Kevin

    Hi Linzen. No problemo! Always good to be cautious of who is reaching out with special offers. I assure you I am an employee of the Nets and Barclays Center. Please feel free to look me up on LinkedIn or at the following link: http://www.nba.com/nets/tickets/group-tickets/

  • Maknusia

    Pick your P?! lol

  • Linzen

    Thanks for understanding, Kevin. Just want to look out for fellow Lin fans.
    I wish I can take advantage of your offer… time to convince the wife… :)))

  • Maknusia

    So were with wall street and DJ previously?

  • Alaingrvis
  • DanCohen

    I think I will bet 100 bucks..
    to see it skyrocket hopefully to $1,000,000
    hahahaha

  • Linzen

    I think Mark’s betting TJ won’t be a 3rd string backup in 3 years. Otherwise, it is insane to offer him 12.5M/year.
    Same logic applies to Heat… In 3 years, TJ should develop into a solid SG/PG. If the Heat still wants to avoid any taxes, they can trade either Dragic or TJ then, right?

  • Linzen

    WOW 😳

  • occupatio

    Yep

  • ViNuyork

    hi Kevin, you are legit :)…checked you on the website…. we are nuyorkers who are also JLin fans and would like to watch him in the Barclay Center…..so how will this work?…will we just email you if we want to buy tickets? or maybe you will have a plan set up with psalm-the moderator of this site ?

  • ProLin

    that’s nice ultimatum in public: you give me a 3rd year, or I’m going to the Cavs.

  • ProLin

    My guess as well. It’s the only comparable asset Cavs might be willing to lose.

  • ProLin

    HOLY CRAP this is really happening. LeBron is desperate, Silver’s gonna allow it. It’s happening.

  • Kevin

    Yes I was 🙂

  • KHuang

    If I recall, the Cavs paid $54 million in luxury tax alone immediately after winning the championship.

  • KHuang

    Given that the underachieving Evan Turner is earning $18 million a season for only 10 ppg, it’s safe to say that Tyler Johnson will likely vastly surpass this unless Johnsons keeps getting injured like he does every year.

  • Linzen

    Hope you can set up something with Psalm. Lots of overseas fans come to this site to talk JLin. I’m sure he can create a ton of interest. 👍

  • Tolin

    Psalm234
    Can you have a separate thread for us to join the event such that we won’t lose track in this thread.
    I am more interested in games against Warrior ( I live here), Huston (Chinese player), Charles (Lin’s previous team), and of course Knicks ( the official Linsanity and Nets local rival). I may only go to at most 2 games. But we should lock it when price is low and get a future priority to purchase the playoff including the dreaming NBA final.

    Thanks for the extra efforts for all of us Lin FAN!!!

  • DrewBear2

    Exactly. And I think they’ve already penciled TJ in as 2nd string behind Jeremy or, if they can’t land Crabbe, possibly even the starting SG. They’ve got nothing to lose in giving these young guys a shot.

  • psalm234

    yes, I will create a special thread for JLin fans who are interested to attend games at the Barclay center.
    I think this would help us to get the Nets home tickets at the Barclay center.

  • psalm234

    yes, I will create a special thread for JLin fans who are interested to attend games at the Barclay center.

  • ProLin

    well this kids is doing his Internet Marketing well, LOL…

  • Rick James

    oh maaan!! Durant, Curry, Klay, Green VS Lebron, Wade, Irving, Love

    Its going to be crazy!

  • psalm234

    yes, I’m still working through the logistics with Kevin on how to provide the information on a Sticky Thread or Section on the website. Stay tuned 🙂

  • Kevin

    Hey ViNuyork,

    Thanks for reaching out. I am discussing a few options with Psalm234 now. I work in group ticket sales, meaning I can offer incredible discounts to groups of 10+. As the season approaches, I will have a link I can send out to individual buyers/small groups to get a small discount. We also have a great 5-Game Plan.

    Opponents: Cavs, Warriors, Lakers, Sixers, Celtics

    Available seats and pricing as follows:

    • Upper Level – Sections 205, 211, 227 and 221 Rows 11+: $175
    • Upper Level – Sections 206, 210, 226 and 222 Rows 3-10: $275
    • Lower Level – Sections 3, 13, 19 and 23 Rows 10+: $550
    • All Access – Sections 7, 9, 23 and 25 Rows 16+: $1,150 (includes unlimited Food & Beverage)

    You can purchase through this link if you’re ready to go.

    https://oss.ticketmaster.com/aps/nets/EN/link/buy/details/16MP2?camefrom=kguidette

    Please don’t hesitate to contact with me with any questions.

    Kevin Guidette
    Group Sales Account Manager
    Barclays Center | Brooklyn Nets | New York Islanders

    15 MetroTech Center, 11th Floor
    Brooklyn, New York 11201
    phone 718.942.9053
    fax 718.942.9595
    KGuidette@brooklynnets.com
    barclayscenter.com

  • Alaingrvis
  • Linzen

    I secretly hope they don’t sign Crabbe, and have a TJJL backcourt. 🙂

  • ProLin

    and we’ll watch Lin beat them both! Once! LOL

  • ProLin

    it’s more exciting than the Finals even for me, LOL

  • ProLin

    Sign and trade probably, but someone will go….

  • ProLin

    When did a team reach out to Lin fans before? This is Amazing? Usually a team rather we don’t exist, LOL

  • ProLin

    you’re doing a good job. Lin fans are usually well-educated and loaded, just so you know, LOL

  • ProLin

    we’ve never seen anything like this so troll alert sounded, LOL.. PTSD I tell ya…

  • ProLin

    will we get our own section? Cheer? matching head gear? Glow sticks? Fight song? LOLOLOL.. “Crazy Internet Lin-Fans Only”

  • ProLin

    while u at it, see if you guys can like take a photo with Lin afterwards, lol…

  • ProLin

    Also Kevin, you guys should plan special Lin-fan package where they’d also get a few min with Lin after the game. You’ll sell a tons of these in Taiwan. And a few here too, lol

  • Linzen

    So true, ProLin. It’s too good to be true. The world is nice again… LOL

  • psalm234

    folks, I know it takes some to get used to having multiple threads but please post other NBA FA moves (non-Brooklyn) in the other thread so we can focus on just Brooklyn Nets news in this thread

    I believe it will benefit everyone in the long term to have a forum-like experience with multiple threads. Thank you!
    2016 General NBA Free Agency Moves
    http://www.jlinportal.com/2016-general-nba-free-agency-moves/

  • Kevin

    Thanks ProLin! Hope to see you at Barclays Center next season. Please feel free to contact me directly for any ticket needs.

    Kevin Guidette
    Group Sales Account Manager
    Barclays Center | Brooklyn Nets | New York Islanders

    15 MetroTech Center, 11th Floor
    Brooklyn, New York 11201
    phone 718.942.9053
    fax 718.942.9595
    KGuidette@brooklynnets.com
    barclayscenter.com

  • Brent Yen

    Forum format is back!

  • Kevin

    Thanks, Heart! I’d very much appreciate you passing on the information to your friends.

    All the best,

    Kevin

  • psalm234

    The upcoming Brook-Lin experience deserves professional forum format for Lin fans 🙂

  • Tolin

    Thank you.
    Please add some upfront markup fee on each ticket for additional risk, handling, etc. I fully trust this site and believe that those extra fees/costs are needed and if remaining exist the amounts will be donated to Lin’s non-profit org for better usages.

  • Alaingrvis

    oooppsss. Takes some getting use to

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Agree. He’s the first one that comes into my mind when I see no SF in the Nets’ roster. He’s inexpensive and he can really shoot the ball.

  • freemind

    is this part of the negotiation tactics?

  • Alaingrvis
  • psalm234

    Thank you for the great idea & your vote of confidence, @wenew:disqus

    It’ll be great if a portion of Lin fans purchase of game tickets can directly benefit JLin Foundation!

  • takeme2cruz

    His salary starting at 12.5 starting this coming season, not 3 years from today. They are overpaying based on his current ability which has never been tested by the Heat.

  • psalm234

    Brooklyn Nets coaching staff is finalized, announced:

    Coach Kenny Atkinson has 8 assistants:
    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/7/5/12098712/brooklyn-nets-coaching-staff-is-finalized-announced
    1. Jacque Vaughn, 41, the former 12-year NBA veteran who spent two seasons with the Nets and finished his career off with three seasons in San Antonio, which is where he earned his first coaching gig. Vaughn had spent his 2009-2012 years with the black and silver as an assistant to Greg Popovich, who’s obviously on the short list of greatest coaches of all-time.

    2. Chris Fleming, 46, will be second lead. The New Jersey native most recently spent last season as an assistant with the Denver Nuggets. That might not excite anyone, but over the years Fleming developed a reputation as one of the best and most noteworthy head coaches in international basketball.

    Fleming was one of the most decorated coaches in Germany, having been a 4-time German Cup&German League champion, a 3-time German Supercup champion, and a former German League Coach of the Year. Since 2015, he’s also been the head coach of the German National basketball squad, which gives the Nets two international team head coaches with Atkinson leading the way for the Dominican Republic since last year.

    3 Adam Harrington, one of the younger coaches on staff at age 35, is one of the more interesting additions on hand for the Nets, player or otherwise. He was formerly Kevin Durant’s personal trainer, the Oklahoma City Thunder shooting coach, is known as a shooting specialist who assisted Durant in adding the Dirk Nowitzki single-legged (kind of ugly but effective) fadeaway jumper to his already potent arsenal.

    In Brooklyn, Harrington will be an assistant coach, and more importantly he will serve as the director of player development. In recent years, Harrington has trained NBA and college athletes using With Purpose Basketball Training.

    4 Jordan Ott, 31, is following Atkinson from the Hawks organization and will serve as an assistant coach along with director of advance scouting –that is scouting opponents.

    While with the Hawks, Ott helped run draft workouts. He notably worked with Atkinson on the Hawks’ Las Vegas summer league squad as well as the Dominican National Team last summer. Before his time in Atlanta, Ott was the video coordinator for the Michigan State Spartans for half a decade.

    At Michigan State, Ott also accompanied players to grow accustomed to new technology, as well as participating in scouting opponents.

    5 Mike Batiste is yet another assistant with extensive overseas experience. He too will deal with player development with a focus on big men.

    Batiste has an extensive background as a former player. In the late 90’s, the 6’8 former big played for Arizona State and was a First-Team All-Pac- 10 player. In his lone NBA season (2002-03) he saw 16.6 minutes per game over the course of 75 contest where he posted 6.4 points and 3.4 rebounds per contest.

    Over the next nine years he carved out a niche in Panathinaikos in Greece where he achieved many significant honors including Greek League MVP in 2010, Greek League Finals MVP, All-Euroleague First and Second teams, and he was a three-time Euroleague champion.

    He coached the Cleveland Cavalier D-League affiliate Canton Charge as an assistant for the last two years.

    6 Bret Brielmaier, 28, who comes from the NBA champion Cavaliers, will receive a promotion from his job in Cleveland. He being elevated to the front of the bench. Sean Marks and assistant general manager Trajan Langdon have a close relationship with Brielmaier, who they’ve worked with in San Antonio.

    Brielmaier in fact started in San Antonio, working for four seasons with the Spurs (2009-13), beginning his career as a player development assistant before becoming the team’s video coordinator for his final three seasons in San Antonio. Brielmaier played collegiately at the University of Arizona and he began his coaching career as an undergraduate assistant coach under Hall of Fame head coach Lute Olsen during the 2008-09 season.

    7 Will Weaver, 31, whose title is special assistant to Atkinson, is coming over from the Philadelphia 76ers. He will have a helping hand in player development and analytics. He will have the same role he did with the lowly 76ers.

    Another tie to Durant, Weaver was an assistant at the University of Texas in KD’s lone season as a Longhorn.

    8 Dan Meehan, 34, who is the head strength and conditioning coach/sport scientist for the Nets. Meehan is making the transition to life in Brooklyn from way out in Australia, previously working for the North Melbourne Football Club.
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750395329720225792

  • ViNuyork

    ok–thanx

  • takeme2cruz

    These are young assistant coaches with full of ambition.

  • bolero

    this guy is awesome.

  • psalm234

    What’s the latest on Tyler Johnson, Allen Crabbe and the Nets?
    TJ: highly dependent on whether DWade moves on
    Crabbe: depends on multiple meetings on July 5-6 (today and tomorrow)
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750403733301985280

  • DanCohen

    or lacka experience in the nba.

  • DanCohen

    hahaahahahahh
    great mind thinks alike

  • DrewBear2

    Those who have access to NBA TV can scout some of the players fighting for a roster spot.

    “The Brooklyn Nets will play in the Las Vegas Summer League in July, and will not, for the first time in a decade, play in Orlando’s Summer League.

    The Nets will play on Saturday, July 9, against the Cleveland Cavaliers at 1:30 PM. Then, they’ll play Monday, July 11, against the Atlanta Hawks at 1:30PM and Tuesday, July 12, against the Washington Wizards at 1:00 PM.

    Should they be one of the bottom seeds — 9 through 24 — they will then play in the first part of the tournament knockout round on Wednesday, July 13. Should they advance — or be among the top 8 seeds — they will play on Thursday, July 14, and so on, with the Finals being July 18.”
    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/6/21/11993158/las-vegas-summer-league-schedule-brooklyn-nets-open-up-against-the

    “Leading up to the event, the team will hold practice at HSS Training Center on July 5, 6 and 7. Players, along with Head Coach Kenny Atkinson, will be made available following practices.”
    http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/7/4/12094040/nets-announce-las-vegas-summer-league-roster

  • DanCohen

    wow they really promoting lin.

  • psalm234

    Jackie Vaughn and Chris Fleming have the most experience being the Magic coach & German National team.

    I like Harrington being Kevin Durant’s personal shooting coach as a shooting specialist who helped him to develop Dirk Nowitzki’s single-legged (kind of ugly but effective) fadeaway jumper to his already potent arsenal.

  • Linzen

    Totally agree with you. TJ is not proven at all, and yet he gets a 12.5M yearly contract… does it mean you think this is an insane move for Mark? 🙂
    Where was this kind of gamble/risk when Jeremy was a RFA or FA?

  • sws94

    I dont know what else to say. You can’t always predict chemistry and how what’s on paper will unfold in reality. Sounds kinda the same.

  • Linzen

    Not trying to create any negativity… but where did we ever see a backup PG making more than the starter? 😞
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750424622324191232

  • adele

    When Lin was in the Rockets, he was earning more than Patrick Beverly and when he was in the Lakers, her was earning more than their starting PG as wel..

  • Keyo

    How’s 5mil > 12mil? Stop this nonsense.

  • Linzen

    hahaha. Good memory Adele! You got me.

  • Linzen

    So, you see this as 5M instead of 12.5M?

  • Alaingrvis

    He is not 5 mill the first 2 year by the 3rd year Lin will opt out

  • Keyo

    i believe it is a poison pill contract. 5mil first year, 6mil second year, 19mil third, and 20mil fourth. very similar deal houston gave lin when he was in knicks.

  • Alaingrvis

    exactly

  • Linzen

    Yes, you are totally right. But, just like Lin’s original poison pill, there was a debate back then weather he was “perceived” as 5M player, or 8M player, for the first two years.

    I know TJ will make “only” $5M the first two years. But, on the book, he is $12.5M cap hit.

  • adele

    I’m trying to be more realistic and just accepting for now. We don’t know the whole scheme of things just yet going into the new season. Any news that affects the Nets will be significant. As of this time, we can only speculate and wish and dream for Lin and his new team. Me? I always pray for his success. That I can do.

  • Ray Lam

    I know right??? I think we should all face it. There will always be bias in some form for Lin. Lets really hope he is the starting pg this coming season or we will riot!

  • TTNN

    Lin? Both in ROX and LAL

  • Linzen

    Amen. Same here.
    But, I do sense that there is really hope with this new team. GM Marks is doing a good job so far. And Lin seems to be trusting coach Atkinson. That’s a good start!

  • Vintage

    Thanks!

  • Rick Johnson

    It’s actually like 5.6 / 5.8 / 19 / 19. So by 3rd year Lin will have opted out and getting a max by then. Whereas Lin getting 12 / 12 / 12 option. So unlikely he actually puts more in his pocket each year than Lin. Lin also getting performance bonuses. So we got to really vote him in to all stars because he may get a bonus for it.

  • takeme2cruz

    They were both different due to both Harden and Kobe demanded to have the ball more. Lin started as a starter for both team until their dirty politic kicked in.

    This time with the Nets, Lin and Johnson are both free agents and they give the “starter” less money. Linzen’s comment was very legit.

  • takeme2cruz

    You’re wrong. Only if the Heat matches the offer and they will start to pay him $5 mil. But if the Nets sign him, they will divide to the equal salary to 12.5.

  • NONONO

    I would rather not to talk about Lin’s salary in next two years.

  • Rick Johnson

    Maybe they can trade Shumpert to the Nets to create space. Would open up $9,662,922

    https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/750388783015657472

  • NONONO

    Is Shumpert available ? He could fit Nets and Lin well.

  • Yascar

    Hi sws! Still here mate. 🙂

  • Rick Johnson

    He’s not a free agent but if the Cav’s want to clear space to make room for Wade they can trade him. He’s on first year of a 4 yr contract so Nets could get him locked in for $9.6 mil / yr which is reasonable at today’s prices.

  • HVJoy

    I believe you are mistaken.

    Lin’s “poison-pill” contract of $25M was paid as follows:
    1st year $5m, 2nd year $5m, 3rd year $15m.
    So Rockets paid Lin $10m in total and Lakers paid him $15m.

    Johnson’s contract of $50m is also “back-end loaded”:
    1st year $5. 8m, 2nd year $5. 9m, 3rd year $18.9m, 4th year $19m

  • NONONO

    it would be good deal. But I doubt Cavs wants Wade. Maybe Lebron just wants to help Wade to get max in Heat.

  • takeme2cruz

    While teams are trying to make room to clear salary cap, the Nets are pushing to give unproven benches for hundred of mil salary. (Crabbe and TJ) $120 mil.

  • Rick Johnson

    Could be. Or it’s an arms race to try to bulk up against the GSW. Otherwise LeBron can just lay down and get hammered by the Superdeath Lineup of Durrant / Iquadala / Green / Thompson & Curry.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think part of their strategy is to wait to see what fruit drops from other tree’s chasing big free agents.

  • HVJoy

    Johnson’s contract of $50m is “back-end loaded”:
    1st year $5. 8m, 2nd year $5. 9m, 3rd year $18.9m, 4th year $19m

  • CJSHYY

    I think bc both are consider as their future player that’s why… I think they should get some good vet players to the team that will have more chance to win more games.

  • takeme2cruz

    The cap will count as 12.5 per for the Nets. TJ will get his $70 mil regardless how much he gets paid, but if we are talking what’s the most important for the team salary cap is what’s counted against the team cap.

  • Rick Johnson

    Yep, counts against the cap 12.5 / yr to the Nets but actual money he gets to put in the bank is $5 mil / $5 mil / $15 mil / $15.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s a lot of money for the hopeful future without any proven in the recent past.

  • HVJoy

    I thought we were talking about how Tyler Johnson would be paid in salary.

    We were not talking about the cap size if each team.

  • takeme2cruz

    The average is still unchanged.

  • Rick Johnson

    I think people were talking about Johnson making more than Lin not what the cap hit is. In actual dollars Lin making more. How about this if Lin becomes face of franchise All Star player he can opt out and get a 5 yr max salary starting in year 3. so will get 12 / 12 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30 = $174 mil

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. TJ seemed to only play 30 something games for last season, right? Crabbe did have good playoff game. Since there’re so many teams w so much money want them so the only way to get them it’s overpay…

  • takeme2cruz

    By the contract total or average, he’s making more than Lin but what matter is they are paying too much for the unknowns.

  • Rick Johnson

    Looks exhausted. Maybe he’s doubling it to 2,000 3pt shots per day to be ready.

    https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/750444426535718917

  • HVJoy

    The fact is for the first 2 seasons with Nets:

    Lin gets $12m/ year, and
    TJ would get $5.8m/ year, significantly less than Lin.

    For the 3rd season, Lin has the right to opt out and likely see huge increase for his pay. He could be getting max deal > $22.2m ( this year’s figure).

  • Rick Johnson

    $22.2 is this years figure. Makes big jump next year. Also Lin will no longer be a 6 yr player but the next bracket up to mid level max. May be closer to $30 mil by that time.

  • occupatio

    not interested in shump. he has not improved at all in years, and his defense belongs to the overrated beverley school.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s not fact. That’s bake and switch method to mislead people aka “poison”. Like you bring out the trash from the kitchen to the living room instead of to the street curve.

  • freemind

    eye roll for deed tired or kd? Haha!

  • HVJoy

    You are absolutely right.
    I am confident our boy will see offers of MAX salary starting 2018-2019 season. 😀

  • occupatio

    this is not a worthwhile discussion to have. the main pt is that Tyler is a restricted free agent, which you have to overpay to get otherwise his home team will match. it doesnt make sense to compare his salary to lin’s tho lin’s salary is obviously below market.

  • Rick Johnson

    Well I doubt they trade Tristan Thomson, maybe Channing Frye? Or maybe the let JR walk. See list of contracts:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/salary

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    if Wade is unhappy with the Heat’s offer and decides to bolt, then the Heat would wanna match Net’s offer to retain TJ. Nets would just sign one out of the two big contracts to unproven bench players.. Crabbe. i’m good with that since Crabbe see like a perfect fit with Lin and Brook on the starting lineup. i rather overpay (if i must) a someone who will start and is a good Linsanity piece then someone who will be a backup

  • occupatio

    i scoff at the ‘assemble the old linsanity gang’ sentimentality. especially in the case of shump since he has spoken disrespectfully of lin after he left ny.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    at this point, it would be wise for the Nets to wait and see who becomes available in the market due to teams trying to clear up cap space to sign big name players. it would be foolish to blindly hand out huge contracts to unproven players

  • takeme2cruz

    GS, Cavs and SA, 3 best teams in the NBA full of experience and winning championships with great role/great contributing players are all trying to clear out the cap to welcome superstars. Most of those guys they have now are making less than bench or 3rd string backup Crabbe and TJ.

  • HVJoy

    TJ would NOT make more than Lin.
    Please see posts below by Rick Johnson and me. ⬇

  • HVJoy

    Which part of my post is not fact as we know?
    I don’t understand what you are saying. Please elaborate.

  • takeme2cruz

    Heat will NOT swallow the poison pill for their 3rd string backup. Pat Reiley can always find another un-drafted for $800K.

    Crabbe is far from being as good as $70 mil based from what he’s done.

  • takeme2cruz

    No matter where you move, it’s still added up to the same number. The Nets will move the numbers to later year, does not mean it disappears.

  • HVJoy

    That’s a good question. Lol.

  • Lin Dunn

    I agree they should get some vet players, was hoping they will sign Boris.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    you bring up a good point. there are a lot of players in the league who can become great role players when developed properly, given a chance, and plays in a good system. the great teams like the Spurs and Warriors put in the time and effort to develop their players within. they don’t go around overpaying other team’s role players that may or may not fit their system. the Nets have been great so far but it seems they’re way in over their heads on trying to find diamonds in the rough. they need to trust their player development once they have a good system in place which may be a few months into the season when they have a better idea of their new system, play style, and personnels

  • TVN

    The Nets are looking at Johnson and Crabbe basically like they’re high draft picks. That’s what happens when you don’t own your own 1st Rounder until 2019. Getting veteran washed up talent won’t help the Nets get better. Potentially, Johnson and Crabbe will improve and become very good players that will help the Nets win big.

  • Lin Dunn

    According to Nets daily, if TJ signs, he will likely be 6th man and backup PG. Everything I read about him points to he is a natural SG. I know he can go L. and has speed etc. But does he has the court vision and play making ability to be PG? Anyone here who knows how to analyze details care to share your insight?

  • Rick Johnson

    Perhaps that is why the Nets seem to have been quiet the last few days other than meeting Crabbe. Gauging what is available and what players or getting shaken out of the trees.

  • takeme2cruz

    Absolute agree. Patience is a virtue. Nets are pushing hard on something not making sense. No wonder others teams seem to run away from their bidding for TJ and Crabbe.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i would wait and see what becomes available in the market as teams are trying to clear cap space. there are bargains to be had if you’re patient. the Nets don’t even need become great instantly. they can be great next year. with Lin and Brooks, you’re already pretty damn good. if they need to spend, i’d rather spread the money around for solid players at all the other positions they need to fill

  • Rick Johnson

    Oh, what did Shump say?

  • takeme2cruz

    Great question but no one seems to know due to his lack of time on the floor.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    they drove up TJ and Crabbe’s value. i don’t think other teams were even considering that much for these players

  • CJSHYY

    Nets seems to favor younger players maybe for the rebuild mode. And they want to try out who can be the piece for the future. But they forget if you want more good players to come you need to win. Good vet players is the key.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    too much $ for an undersized SG that is expected to be the 6th man. there are plenty of undersized SG’s in the league

  • Rick Johnson

    Right but years 3 and 4 for Lin are not fixed. So he could be making $30 mil in those years. So Johnson could be making 5 / 5/ 15/ 15 = 40 and Lin could be making 12 / 12 / 30 / 30 = 84

  • CJSHYY

    I really think Nets needs to sign Vet PG. So far none? I want Lin to play more min but not 40 min on court every game.

  • sws94

    I think KD. Get some rest, JLin7.

  • Lin Dunn

    I want Nets to sign some Vet, Vet PG, VET SF, VET PF e.g. Boris Diaw. None so far. How is that Galloway guy from the Knicks. Not exactly VET but at leas some experience.

  • CJSHYY

    I think TJ it’s OK for SG bc JC from Lakers it’s the same high like him.

  • Lin Dunn

    But he is expected to be backup PG. It takes a long time to develop a PG.

  • takeme2cruz

    People pay thousands of dollars for big strong grown trees BUT no one would do that for a plant then hope for its’ “potential”.

  • CJSHYY

    I know…. they should not just chase the young players only they do need to get more vet players.

  • Lin Dunn

    Sigh.

  • CJSHYY

    I believe he will play like SG most of the time even his position it’s backup PG. Just like Lin in Hornets.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    it’s different because JC plays the point guard position but doesn’t have the skills for it. JC can’t play the SG position effectively either because he is a smaller, slower, and weaker than other SG’s. JC is best used as a 6th man

  • Lin Dunn

    Sigh, I hope so. It is easier to develop into a reasonable SG, besides he is a natural SG.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    TJ is definitely more of a SG than PG…..he has decent handle but not enough court vision and passing ability

  • takeme2cruz

    I would leave out what Lin can make after 2 years from now but Johnson would be making estimated 5/5/20/20 = 50.

    20 and 20 for TJ in his 3rd and 4th season? That’s already 1/5 of the cap and ‘we” all have no idea what he would be like.

  • CJSHYY
  • Lin Dunn

    What do people think about Nets signing Langston Galloway, since Knicks is letting him go. He can backup and seems to have some experience and is young enough.

  • takeme2cruz

    Remember how the Lakers got Lin and 1st round pick from Houston? Yes the Nets can do the same and have their first pick back.

  • Lin Dunn

    According to some yahoo writer, they give the contract solid A.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s indeed.

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s good sign right there. At least we know he’s talented.

  • Mr Chuckles

    I was just talking to my coach, who just happened to have coached TJ back when he was in high school (and Joseph Lin too), about the current free agency and some of the crazy contracts. He actually mentioned JLin’s contract at which point I had to set him straight. He argued that Lin’s “body of work” as a starter always ended with him on the bench, so I went through his time in Houston and LA to fill him in on the real details of that. He seemed to be satisfied with my explanation and we both agreed that his gig with the Nets should be what defines what kind of player Lin really is to the general public.

  • CJSHYY

    I read NYK maybe will sign him back.

  • takeme2cruz

    But they lose the restriction so he can go anywhere now.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks. Does your coach has any opinion on TJ?

  • Mr Chuckles

    Well, since TJ is his guy, of course he thinks the world of him. Athletic and productive.

  • CJSHYY

    Unless we hive him more money otherwise I think he will stay w NYK.

  • takeme2cruz

    Glad you went through with him about Lin but not wasting time on TJ.

  • Lin Dunn

    Actually, how is his HS and college record?
    Oh what does your coach think about Joe Lin?

  • takeme2cruz

    That’s true but what they did to him because of Jenning, he might not want to be there as their 3rd string backup.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lets hope, he can be 2nd string PG Backup at Nets.

  • takeme2cruz

    I like him, very humble guy on the floor.

  • 1mtoldman

    christian wood is looking really good in summer league; 6ers have a lot of really big guys unlikely he will make it there, does any know his exact contract status at this time?

  • Mr Chuckles

    I don’t know about TJ’s record. He said that Joe was small but could really shoot.

  • Lin Dunn

    Thanks

  • CJSHYY
  • vincent

    i hope the nets can get a good stretch 4 before the conclusion of FA. im concerned about booker clogging the lane

  • CJSHYY
  • martan267

    I’m reading so much back and forth on whether JLin will start with TJ as backup. And, when he does start, how much PG duties does he get. I’ve seen 75/25 or 70/30 split. I’ve heard he should take a lot of shots or he should set up plays for a lot of assists.

    In thinking about this, I thought, why not use, as an example or baseline, an actual game where he was the starting PG in the most recent season. I wanted to pick a game where he was the clear cut starting PG and the most recent game since that would reflect where JLin is at from his skills standpoint.

    So, the best game example I thought of was the CHA vs CLE on 2/3/16. Obviously, I picked this one because Kemba was out and it was definitely clear that JLin was replacing the Starting PG spot, not the SG or other PG/SG mix role. So, below are his stats for that game and if we emulate most of his stats around this set of data, would that not set up JLin for success without playing too many minutes, without taking too many shots or not enough shots, etc… I’ve inserted in the ( ) what we could say is a good range or average, just my opinion.

    Minutes Played: 32:25 ( between 30 – 35)
    FG: 7
    FGA: 13 ( around 15 avg?)
    FG%: .538 (is 50% a good number? Should it be more around 45%?)
    3P: 2
    3PA: 4
    3P%: .50 ( is 40% a more realistic, but challenging goal?)
    FT: 8
    FTA: 11
    FT%: .727 ( I think I’ve heard at least 80%)
    ORB: 1
    DRB: 4 (not sure what’s a good rebound stats for a guard)
    TRB: 5
    AST: 8. ( I think at least 7?)
    STL: 0 ( 1)
    BLK: 0
    TOV: 5 (2 schools of thought here; high risk, high reward? Or less TO, but more scoring? Frankly, I think this will go down if JLin runs the team more consistently as his teammates will get used to his play calling and passing, so I’m fine with a higher TOV)
    PTS: 24 (I’ve seen 20 as an average number in the threads)
    GmSc: 19
    +/-: +3
    DFS: 40.8

  • David Kim

    Offer him max then Let them pay…..LOL just kidding

  • Phoenix Rising

    10-15 fga sounds right, depends a lot on the system run by Coach
    40% 3p might be high given Lin’s current year, I’m hoping this season he just reaches or slightly exceeds his career average
    50% fg is on the higher side, but achievable for Lin with his talents finishing at the rim; I think in coach’s system we will see a lot of pnr, drives by Lin, which can push the fg% up
    Lin has shown he can be a great guard rebounder – 4-5 per game

    Not so concerned about TOVs to start. But since Lin has taken a major step last year in curbing the same, would like him to continue. Again, I think this will depend on the system Coach runs, a faster system is bound to have slightly more TOVs

    Nice way to look at potential lin stats… unfortunately, I think so many things are system dependant, we will have to wait and see how the team plays in summer league and pre-season to see what they are going to run with.

  • vincent

    i hope lin can take 15-20 a game fga that is

  • CJSHYY

    I think Mark will have plan B if Nets can’t get him.

  • Rick Johnson

    Hi Kevin,

    I’m looking to fly there from the West Coast after the schedule comes out like a cluster of 3 home games within like 6 days or so. Any possibility of setting up a Meet and Great with JLin to get together with his group of fans? I’m sure fans coming for Asia would love this too.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. There is where positive thinking of fans come into play knowing the history of how Lin can elevate the games of team mates to win a 5 on 5 basketball games. IMO, the current parameters of elevating strength on paper is overrated and the logical thing about the Nets FO is rebuilding the team around BrookLin both in actual game strategy and high character players. The winning of basketball games will come sooner than later and more consistently. Haha cheers.

  • TTNN

  • David Kim

    You playing in college now??

  • Mr Chuckles

    Haha. No, although I do still have my four years of eligibility.

    At my work, we have a beautiful college-sized basketball gym and on Tuesdays at lunch they bring in a basketball coach to teach whoever wants to learn. I’ve been doing it for almost a year now.

  • casual bb fan

    Great obvervations and deductions of the nature and type of games Lin will generate when he is given the opportunity to play point guard and be the leader and ‘quarterback’ of his team. Haha

  • Phoenix Rising

    Regardless of your views on this guy, you have to agree with 1 thing – It will be JUDGEMENT DAY!!! For all of us 😛

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. If Lin is allowed to take so many fga he is destined to be a ‘superstar’ basketballer as in Linsanity stretch of games. Haha cheers

  • heart

    Kevin actually replied and confirmed his status to us. This is really encouraging for us Lin fans… I’m very optimistic for Lin!

  • martan267

    Thanks for the input. I think we sync up on most things.

    Yep, it was just a straw an on what Lin’s stats could look like WHEN he is finally the main PG of the team.

    And, if he does close to what he did in that Cavs game, well, those are all star numbers.

  • zxcvb

    If Wade leaves and Miami matches Tyler Johnson, Aaron Brooks should be the backup PG/6th man target. Like I’ve said, he’s still got enough game, he said he’s happy in a backup role and he’s already buddies with Lin. And he’s cheap.

    Sounds like Portland will match Crabbe as well after Pau chose the Spurs. Gerald Green should be a target at the wing. He can play both SG and SF and gives them an insanely athletic dunker and streaky 3pt shooter.

    Add a PF/C (Hawes? Humphries?) and they’re done. Don’t go overboard this summer. See what you got with Lin and Lopez leading this team and then reevaluate next year. If you’re short of the cap floor, boost existing FA contracts a bit like Mavs did with Wes Matthews last year.

  • Phoenix Rising

    My bold prediction for this year – Lin WILL be an all-star!

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Said coach qualify a player who is a point guard as small has confirmation biases right there. Just look around the league with so many small point guards who can really play. IMO he is not a good coach with such attitude. Haha.

  • CJSHYY

    I like AB & he can get along well w Lin. Not really too old. Even he’s a little bit short but it’s OK. I really want Nets to get one vet PG.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah backup PG is one bench role where you really want experience. I also like the idea of AB and Lin playing together in a small-ball lineup.

  • CJSHYY

    He can shoot 3P but so far Nets only like more younger players…. maybe after few more days they will start to get some vet players in all position.

  • zxcvb

    I saw some videos of Chris McCullough and his physical tools are outstanding. But he is very RAW. He barely played in his one year at Syracuse due to injury and got drafted based on his potential. I think he could be good with proper development from Atkinson and Lin. But I’m not sold on Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. Not sure what he brings to the table.

  • SeaKing33

    I think AB is a good guy and all, compatible with Lin…but if you want the Nets to be play-off contenders I don’t know if AB can get the job done…And say he can’t get the job done and Nets are losing games…who does the blame go to?…but regardless I guess even if we do have a decent back up PG, people may shift the blame to Lin, saying he’s not “starting material”. Man I wish the Nets could get TJ…

  • zxcvb

    Everyone except us expects the Nets to lose 55+ games. Lin has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Also, AB is a good choice for backup. He had a very good year as backup in 2015. Off-year last year because Chicago was a total mess, but it’s not like he’s injured or too slow now.

  • Alaingrvis

    RHJ is mostly a defensive player and has a ton of athleticism. Like a shumpart. Cant really shoot. I think we may need him on the court. We need a defensive minded player on the court.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Rondae is supposed to be a poors man MKG…he’s not guaranteed a starting spot because he’s very raw…not much of an offensive game and can’t shoot

    his bread n butter is suppose to be his defense,,he’s an effort and high energy guy who will be guarding the best wing on the other team.

  • sws94

    He almost looks MKGish. I have to see more. I say that because he seems to like to dribble the ball up the court and push the pace. But, need to see more.

  • zxcvb

    That’s what they say, but I don’t see it. He seems fundamentally sound and a great defender at the college level, but I don’t see the necessary athleticism at the NBA level for a 6-7 guy. McCullough is 6-11 and he moves faster with more spring.

  • Alaingrvis

    Well we will find out.

  • Alaingrvis

    lol most of our players are very raw

  • zxcvb

    Poor man’s MKG is probably a good comparison. The thing is, I think MKG is the minimal amount of athleticism needed to be a quality NBA defender. MKG is stronger than RHJ as well.

  • SeaKing33

    lol yeah I guess so. I’m just biased, because I remember watching Lin play the Bulls and he would EMBARRASS AB…totally expose him haha

  • zxcvb

    *Marks trades RHJ for Jeremy Lamb*

  • Alaingrvis

    Im not all that high on Lamb. Don’t think Charlotte would do it

  • zxcvb

    When given a chance, Lin embarrasses even the top stars. Tore up Kyrie and Lowry last season.

  • Lin Dunn

    Wow , he predicts all star.

  • Lin Dunn

    Is this guy officially from the Nets?

  • sws94

    He played really well with Lin, but he drifts offensively and defensively and he tends to try to facilitate too much when he plays with Lin and not pass it to Lin to make decisions. Pass. RHJ can provide a high level of defense and athleticism at the rim.

  • Alaingrvis

    We have to wait and see. How well the group mesh. It looks like we won’t get crab so who do we get?? Everything is still fluid. wade situation will impact us

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    Agreed with this guy and Lin needing to improve his midrange game and better 3 point shooting.

    If Lin could improve that, he could really be a star…I’m hoping Lin really zero-in this summer on adding a better floater alongside a mid-range game…Glad to hear he’s started his training…Let’s hope he’s training the right skills.

    Ball-handling, floaters, and 3 point shots..

    18 and 6 looks good…I tend to go lower on points just to be safe…15 and 6 for me.

    Agree that Lin is a great distributor…Lin is more of a scorer, so I agree that 6 assist is probably where I also see Lin….

    I do agree his point per game is where Lin’s potential is at..18ppg is the best scenario..be glad if he can that.

  • TVN

    Sorry, but you’re way off. McCullough is a 4 and a year or two away. RHJ is ready start right now.

  • TVN

    Would be a stupid trade. RHJ is an elite-level defender already. Some of your suggestions have been sound, but some of the recent ones I’m haven’t been a fan of.

  • MEL LIN

    no lamb pls

  • TVN

    RHJ is a building block for this team. He can slash offensively and crashes the glass. Why anyone would trade him on a team already devoid of talent is, I don’t know.

  • TVN

    Charlotte already has MKG. Off the bench they’ve got Bellineli. They have no reason to trade for RHJ. They have someone with his skillset on their team already.

  • CJSHYY
  • Mr Chuckles

    What are they supposed to say? “Coach is whack, man”

  • sws94

    I don’t know, but I want to keep RHJ. I don’t want Lamb. If Tyler stays with Miami, then I would think Marks has another plan.

  • zxcvb

    Didn’t say C-Mac should play SF. I said he’s 6-11 and more athletic than RHJ at 6-7. That’s why I don’t think that much of RHJ’s raw physical tools.

  • zxcvb

    It was a joke. But no, RHJ is not an “elite defender” already.

  • TVN

    Why choose one over the other when you both? Anyway, RHJ has the makings of an elite Kawhi-level defender. You don’t trade that away. If you can’t see that, a prefer a guy like Lamb, then I can’t help you.

  • zxcvb

    Nice gesture for the actual head coach to coach Summer League too. Only 2-3 coaches are doing that.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Hear what the HC has to say about them. 😂

  • zxcvb

    Not choosing. Just evaluating the two prospects on the roster.

    I was clearly joking about Lamb (I’m an avowed Lamb disliker after how he handled last season), but for the record, Lamb has more talent than RHJ. Just needs an attitude adjustment.

  • ProLin

    He’s actually teaching them stuff, rather than barking orders. Great to hear it! I’m giddy with excitement!

  • ProLin

    Yes, his problem is just he’s injured and he didn’t play a lot last year. Atkinson saw him as a project already. I think this maybe why they are not too overly concern at PF because if he develops this guy is a legit stretch 4 for Lin.

  • Rick Johnson

    Not running them into the ground until they have to vomit in trash cans?

  • ProLin

    That’s fine, there’s got to be that guy who defends and get rebounds. As long as he’s able to jam it down, he’s gonna get his points.

  • LinMadd

    I think Brook may be #1 option with 20 ppg. Lin will feed to him and break the defense up. But it’s going to be like peanut butter and jelly. I think Lin can bring the Nets to playoffs and he will end up with 16-18 ppg.

  • ProLin

    RHJ seemed faster than CM and more athletic. CM is more of a finess stretch 4 type player.

  • ProLin

    Is that the official nick name? C-Mac? at 6-11 he’s should be PF.

  • ProLin

    Year 1 is not playoff contending, it’s let’s get into the playoffs year. AB will do if they can’t get Tyler, just as a short term vet backup.

  • ProLin

    A lot of Lin fan is still coming to this realization. If he can get that close to be elite in the dire situation he was in, a team build around him, a coach who believe in him, would be all-star easily. I’m starting to see that, as I see how well these pieces fit into Lin’s game.

  • ProLin

    He’s not Asian “Tiger Coach”, geez.. LOL.. no more Slam Dunk for you!

  • ProLin

    He knows how loaded Asian Americans are lol…

  • Rick Johnson

    I was describing Byron “run them until they vomit” Scott.

    http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/09/10/lakers-byron-scott-tentatively-penciling-in-veterans-as-starters/

    Amid the shrieking whistles, swishing nets and perhaps profanity-laced trashtalk, another sound might emerge that provides the soundtrack to capture the beginning of Lakers’ training camp.

    Players puking in trash cans.

    To anticipate that possibility, Lakers coach Byron Scott will place four trash bins on each corner of the court for a simple reason. “I don’t want guys throwing up on my floor,” Scott said. He reported four undisclosed players needed to hunch over during his stints with the New Jersey Nets (2000-2004), New Orleans Hornets (2004-09) and Cleveland Cavaliers (2010-2013), using a series of demanding conditioning and defensive oriented drills to expose immediately any of his players’ weaknesses.

  • Sundown

    Lin is going to be cooking on this team! 🙂

  • ProLin

    HAHAHA, I didn’t know that about BS.. well that’s why he sucked and players hated him I guess… LOL

  • Chris B.

    You are crazy man. Rondae is one of the most freakish athlete in the entire NBA. He is 6’7 with a 7’3 wingspan. His vertical heap is leap is 38 inches. He has a defensive rating of 102 and is rated as one the best NBA rookie wings.

    http://thesportsquotient.com/nba/2016/3/28/the-best-nba-rookie-wing-is-rondae-hollis-jefferson

    “His defensive box plus-minus of 3.0 would be good for 11th in the entire NBA if he had played enough games.”

  • Rick Johnson

    So stupid. Players wouldn’t have any legs to shoot anymore during games. Guy was either incompetent, or a master stealth tanker.

  • ProLin

    “Tiger Scott”, abusing players since Y2K.

  • CJSHYY
  • TVN

    I’m a huge Rondae fan. Lin needs other good defenders in the lineup with him. Lopez isn’t Andrew Bogut or DeAndre Jordan. He can be solid near the rim, but he’s not the type of defensive center that erases his teammates mistakes.

  • BobbyH

    Follow the $

  • CJSHYY

    Go to Lakers they will give him 4 years deal. LOL!

  • BobbyH

    Give Wade some credits. Even 5 years max, he won’t go there.

  • CJSHYY
  • Steppen03

    Hello folks! We expect so little from JL7 – only 15-18 ppg ?? He can achieve that being as backup if not restrained (as in last 3 seasons). We’re talking about starter minutes, folks, being Leader of the team can’t be just 15-18 ppg because this ain’t the Spurs or Warriors team. If this Nets team want to make some serious noise, have a fighting chance for anything, then our JL7 needs to bring it like Linsane 2.0. There’s No Other Way. Linsanity was No fluke. He could’ve much better seasons in Hou if not for Harden & non-believer McHale. But he’s removed from that – better skill sets and more experience under his belt. This is the season for 23-25ppg & 8ast. The Nets needs it! He needs it! We needs it! And he will deliver.

  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I’d rather we keep expectation low or realistic and if Lin does better, than great…You just don’t want to raise expectation too high and have him fail to reach these high expectation…just like in Houston..everyone expected Linsanity and when that didn’t happen, he got hit hard, although there were legit excuses why Lin did not do Linsanity in Houston

    For me, my expectation are 15ppg and 6 assist…If he can put up these stats, he’ll be top 15 PG in the league and will likely get the chance to start again in the league.

    If he can get more, than great…Lin still needs to improve his 3point shooting and add a legit floater.

  • Joe what do you know

    If he is used properly and the Nets playbook taylored to his abilities, I’m expecting a seasonal average of 20/5/8 @ 45/38/85….

  • Phoenix Rising

    Bold prediction – so do I 😉

  • james brown

    but just a bit late for the love, but well taken i guess by JLIN…hope when the proper time comes, hornets FO can decide to secure his services again and let go of walker…just in case.

  • Steppen03

    I’m not concern about JL7’s ability to score – making shots two’s, three’s, drives… I’m not worry about him. When he’s unleash and play freely without any restrains his game will always be there. Some nights, maybe 15-18pt, and some nights maybe 25-40pt.

  • vincent

    if lin can even average 17 and 7 i will be very happy

  • CJSHYY

    When is Walker contract end? After 2 years? LOL!

  • james brown

    what do you mean by this?…”will likely get the chance to start again in the league.”..Lin will now start with Nets, and if just get the 15/6, its a starter stats now. but i also believe better than this will be the best!

  • james brown

    yes and coincidental that JLIn by that time has a player option with nets and with the best price ever!!!

    well by that time, not only hornets will try but many more team will pitch in for his services.

  • vincent

    remember he averaged 15 points during the month of novemeber in 2013-14 season on the rockets. and that was alongside harden so he hardly had the ball in his hands. imagine if he was given full control of the team

  • james brown

    moderate expectation can be good but hoping he notch higher and strive for his best potential!

  • CJSHYY

    Really? Interesting…..

  • SeaKing33

    Eh, I hope he doesn’t go back to the Hornets…unless MJ gives him a sneaker deal =)

  • sws94

    17/7 is tough to do over an 82 game duration. Especially since Lin doesn’t shoot as many shots as other PGs.

  • Elon Musk

    Also, remember that he is currently practicing his shooting. We should expect a higher percentage next season.

  • james brown

    he will change his shooting stats here at nets just like his stats with nyk i guess. He will not defer to any dominant SG or Frowards and up his scoring as well as his assist being the primary ballhandler.

  • Steppen03

    No, I’m being realistic too.
    Ppl were saying Linsanity was a fluke for years and I’m really sick of it (like all of us here…)
    15-17ppg will prove that Linsanity was a fluke.
    Im not asking for anything that JL7 doesn’t ask for himself – play freely and lead team to victories. But in order to do that – he really needs to bring it every night. And I believe he will. 23-25ppg will help the team climb over the hill and get to the other side.

    MDA was good – but there was also many flaws. JL7 is no joke. Atkinson maybe just the coach to bring it all out.

  • james brown

    yeah speaking only due to Tweet that Fans loving him there.

    its just a speculation but no proof that it will happen later..AND If u you ask if its “REALLY “…my thought, the answer is yes . Not a hornets team fans because of Cliff, but maybe with my delusion (LOL), MDA will by then the HC of the hornets and the reunion finally come between JLIN and MDA..LOL

  • Jamie

    What’s the word on Crabbe and Johnson?
    we gonna lose both?

  • Steppen03

    Was it tough for IThomas Jr., Walker, Lowry, Dragic, and on… ?? Again, JL7 looks “different”. And he’s Asian – not as athletic, I guess…
    I know you mean no harm but that’s doubters talk.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO with pick n roll heavy offence Lin could easily get to the paint and line and average 5 to 8points from free throws if offiating is on fair basis. Add the 12points from the field based on 9fga would have achieved the 17-20points game. Not too high an expectation I reckon for a starting point guard of Lin’s caliber. Haha cheers

  • james brown

    IMO…ypur statements are the true sentiments of all JLIN followers, but some here without disproving anything against JLIN potential just temper their expectation this season maybe for a stress free watching of his games, but if one can control his rage and not be disappointed when jlin stats does not live up to ones expectation, i think anyone can Expect such performance and preach it!

  • james brown

    i guess what SWS says (if he may correct me) , it will be hard to average for the entire season higher stats than 17/7

  • Ben Johnson

    Reasons why JLin will get TONS of freaking FTs in Brooklyn:
    1) He’s their best non-Center on the team, and the refs tend to give fouls to the team’s best players
    2) The league is on notice about JLin and the ref’s tendency to swallow their whistles around him (see infamous youtube flagrant foul video)…
    3) JLin is now in the Sports Media mecca of the world…if you don’t give him fouls when he deserves them, expect all the major newspapers to cry bias, unfairness, rigging, etc.

  • james brown

    what was walkers averaged stats last season? sorry i don’t have it at my disposal tahts why i’am asking just for the reason of comparison with other starting guard.

  • sws94

    Has nothing to do with how they look. IT, Lowry, Walker shoot more. It’s a difference in approach. You’re using the doubters label when it doesn’t apply. I think Lin is far less interested in 17/7 than he is in who is hot tonight, who can I get going, do I need to shoot, pass, defend, what do I need to do to give my best chance to win. And some nights that’s someone else is hot or hot for periods of the game, even, if I get the ball to X team-mate, he’ll get it in to the team mate with the best look. That’s a hockey assist for LIn, but it doesn’t show up on the stat sheet.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. I totally agree with you on the doubters talk thingy. No positivity there on a lin fan site. Hope for more positive posting from the learned poster without the constant doubting spoiler some how somewhere subtly hidden in the postings. Haha cheers

  • CJSHYY

    Ask Wade when he’s going to make his decision for his future.

  • sws94

    THat’s crap. Because someone points out some other aspect of Lin that says he is not interested doesn’t mean they are doubters. Us against them on a Lin site? That’s when the site goes bad.

  • Steppen03

    I know…
    But history has already written. Did he disappointed us in Hornets run in the playoffs ? Did he disappeared in LA ? Did he in Hou ?
    No. No. And NO. No matter what, we’ve stood by him all these years. Did we run away ? I don’t think so. No, there’s no surprises, no disappointments – if JL7 scores 15pt or 50points.

  • sws94

    Maybe. No official word. Can’t say we ever really had Crabbe.

  • james brown

    preach it Bro!!!!

  • sws94

    Go in with the lowest expectations and then he’ll likely beat them.

  • Jamie

    great
    I actuallly thought they might have had a shot at making the play offs but oh well

  • Rick James

    I don’t care if he scores only 15 points or more at 17 points, as long as the team wins, wins wins and his contribution is acknowledge. He doesn’t need to be like westbrook, scoring 25 ppg, 12 assists, 10 rebounds but people complaining he is iso ball hog, ie durant. He only has to play his game and find success, then be recognized. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t get mvp or all these stupid awards as long as he WINS!! lol

  • sws94

    I agree. Footwork too. But vary the scoring more, change speeds more. Secure the ball handling in tight situations to match the superb open-court ball handling and ability to weave through defenders.

  • Jamie

    what future? he’s all washed up and old just go back MIami stop being annoying!!! ugh i hate Wade

  • james brown

    i think this is the one being pointed out…”17/7 is tough to do over an 82 game duration”. that’s why the response of why it will be hard if most starting PG can do it season long…

    of course JLIN needs to change his shooting stat by having more than 10 shot a game…and i believe his shots will increase now that he will be the primary handler of the ball!

  • casual bb fan

    My friend I am basically refering to your kindself based on Steppon post. Hope it stop here without making it ‘goes bad’. Sorry in advance if it annoy you a bit. I don’t mean that. Haha cheers.

  • Ben Johnson

    Actually, if that contract news was never leaked, there may have been a really good chance to snag him…now, I feel like there’s still a decent chance…I can’t stress enough the importance of having a deadly catch and shoot wing next to JLin

  • sws94

    I tend to agree. Get them from 21 wins to 34-35 and he is a huge success. If he just goes off every night and scores 20 and his team loses, he’ll be knocked as the guy who can start on a bad team and get his stats, but doesn’t improve his team. Improve the team. Plus, that’s what Lin has always been about. Not 17/7 18/8 or anything like that. He’s about winning and him doing what it takes to contribute to it. He also doesn’t have to be “the man” every night either.

  • Jamie

    fair enough he truly believed Lin was a back up
    for that I put McHale over him but its whatever

  • sws94

    The doubters aren’t here. They are elsewhere. I deal with them on RealGM. Here we may disagree on how Lin may get it done or how much he can do to affect others on the team, but there is no doubt with any poster that I detect.

  • CJSHYY
  • Steppen03

    I don’t doubt you..
    Yes, there’s many options – to score but it all starts with the leader leading the way. JL7 can pass all he wants but it will eventually come down to him being aggressive to the rim (scoring whatever ways)… 23 points out of 90 point game is not a lot.

  • Rick James

    AGREED. team mates dont like ball hogs, teams with ball hogs play worse in the long run. The best teams are the one where there is ball movement and not much selfishness. Of course, if the team needs him to step up because the offense is stalled, then lin needs to take over, or step up and contribute to the teams benefit.

  • sws94

    Don’t agree. Wade is an all-time great who won game 6 for the Heat. He may not be the Flash of all, but he is still a big, winning, all-time great. Maybe he’s not the nicest guy in the world, I can understand disliking him for that, but he is a winner and he plays many aspects of basketball the right way (not flopping and dirty tactics, but seeing the floor, involving team mates, taking over in the clutch, hustling on defense, and is a superb shot-blocker for his height).

  • sws94

    I really hope so. Hope Marks and company made him seriously consider the Nets.

  • james brown

    having ball in his hand will offer more opportunity for him to score and he shoots efficiently. His stats in scoring si very efficient and dictated by the need to score but not the need to up his stats. This is where JLIN differs among his co PG/Players.

  • Steppen03

    It’s automatic playoff bound with JL7 leading the way. Other good players will make it “more” interesting, that’s all.

  • CJSHYY

    I agree. Don’t want all the teams just target Lin only. Plus I heard Crabbe played really well against Klay during playoff (my friend who’s big Klay fan said so…). Hope We can get Crabbe.

  • Ben Johnson

    What?!? Really?? Vet min I’m guessing, but that is awesome, JLin was good buds with Delfino, good 12th man if true EDIT: This has got to be BS, he hasn’t played in the NBA since 2013

  • james brown

    good addition and cheap, not a showoff and know what team ball means.

  • sws94

    Sometimes he’ll score that and much more. He may score over 40, in fact, he probably will one or two games. But how much he scores ultimately depends on how well others in his team score. I think we’ll know more when they actually play, and that won’t be for months.

  • Ben Johnson

    What I like most about Crabbe is that he keeps on improving at an alarming rate…give him a year under Atkinson and JLin’s mentorship, I think he’ll be a 80% version of Klay

  • Rick James

    I think one issue in linsanity was jlin taking so much shots and not relying on his team mates as much as he should have. This was one reason for the other players having bad thoughts against him, including melo and J.R, and others.

    One way Lin has grown in the past year especially, and something I think is very important is to play well OFF the ball. He needs to rely on his team mates as much as possible but at the same time BE THE MAN when the team needs him.

    Either way I still prefer lin take at least 15 shots per night as a starter, maybe something closer to 17 or 18 if he can get it.

  • Ben Johnson

    JLin will do what he has to do to win…if that means score 12pts with 15assists, then that’s what’s gonna happen…each roster is different, as is the offensive strategy, and his role in the team…we’ll know by the first 10-15 games what kind of year he’s gonna have in terms of stats

  • sws94

    Yup. That’s his growth. Linsanity was fun numbers. But Lin isn’t that Lin anymore. He can have games that resemble that, but his approach is different now.

  • Steppen03

    But that’s the point!
    The Team needs an elite scorer PG and well as everything else. Other teams PGs will go off big time scoring 18-25ppg and the Nets need to match that – in order to have a chance for many wins possible. It’s not like The Nets is elite or something, here. It will be bottom feeder without JL7 (it is in everyone else’s eyes beside JL7 fans ). This is where Linsanity can unleash again… on a lowly team.

  • Rick James

    lins game is also high risk, driving to basket and if he keeps on doing this it is only a matter of time before some injury happens(maybe concussion). Better to take more mid range jumpers, work on the 3 pointers and passing. Lin plays TOO much like lebron james some times, they both drive to basket 80% of the time because their jump shot sucks bad LOL.

  • sws94

    But it also means 12 points and getting the ball to a player in a position to have 7 assists to his 8. It’s still 15 team assists. As long as the team is assisting and the ball movement creates good baskets, Lin doesn’t have to be the one getting the stats. That is real teamball, a happier team because everyone is involved in aspects of the game other than getting it from Lin to score, and that’s better basketball. Some guys like to assists almost as much as score, not only Lin.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. You got it . My only wish is these posters do not turn to bashing Lin on his off nights. History has shown that these doubters would appear whenever Lin didn’t play a good game and having off night. Haha cheers

  • sws94

    I agree. I really want Lin to more have the Wade game. Some drives to the basket, but really great mid-range shots to go with it. Wade did injure himself badly with his maniacal drives to the basket in his flash era, around age 24-27. But I think he’s working on the jump shot and mid-range game.

  • Steppen03

    It’s Never change.
    JL7 will always feed others and score as much as possible – That’s where the real threats lie. He’s not selfish. But he’s not stubborn. Leave him open then he will attack the basket. That’s not selfish plays. He HAVE to be a real threat in order for his teammates success.

  • Maknusia

    Its ok…if posters point out where Lin lacked for the nite…bashing only constitute when the poster says he is a scrub with no upside to be better, or dishes him off for the season or career

  • CJSHYY

    I hope it’s true bc he’s in the Argentinian national team now. So sure it’s good and he knows Lin that’s great!

  • Maknusia

    Its too early to say how Lin is gonna come into the season…I’m pretty sure he is working on few new forte as an add-on to his skill

  • Ben Johnson

    Yeah, until the 4th quarter…then it’s Linsanity TIME!!! 😀

  • casual bb fan

    My friend I understand you are one of the mod. Sorry to awaken you to dispell my wearying of the doubters here Haha cheers

  • Rick James

    this might be one of the big reasons for rondo’s decline. He never takes an open shot anymore, he tends to pass it even with a wide open lane. Some people think this is because he is trying to stat pad, but the real reason may be a combination, maybe he is much more afraid of getting injured than he was when he was younger.

    Also, wades game would be PERFECT! Its similar to the MJ plan that all players follow..when young go hard to basket, dunk or layup all the time. When getting older take more mid range, and 3pointers.

  • Maknusia

    hmmm

  • Rick James

    hmm, is that manu I see on the right? Wow, Luis Scola is also argentinan, surprise surprised

  • casual bb fan

    Good post. IMO if your kindself post as such nobody will doubt you again. The same request goes to the two other posters here who happens to post in reply to each other and your kindself and create subtle doubts and negativity in their posting just like your kind self use to doing before this post. I hope I have reponded enough to all those postings and would appreciate positive posting as your kind self just did. Thanking you in advance. Haha cheers

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Sure fierce looking there. Haha cheers.

  • ProLin

    How old is the guy? 40? LOL

  • ProLin

    Honestly, we are probably not gonna hear anything until the 10th.

  • Rick Johnson

    He’s 33.

  • hchao

    33, humble team player, not bad a shooter eFG% ~0.5, 0.53 when with ROX

  • zxcvb

    If true, this is another great sign. It’s like they’re specifically building the team around Lin.

    I distinctly remember Carlos and Lin playing really well together when Delfino was in Houston. Needless to say, McHale didn’t care and didn’t take advantage (it was all about Harden).

    This would give Brooklyn some valuable shooting and veteran experience at SF. Delfino was also a scrappy, in-your-face defender.

  • hchao

    In 2012-13 season when with ROX, his eFG% was 0.532, better than Harden’s 0.504.

  • Geoffrey

    isn’t this dude out of the league for a few years?

  • hchao

    This turned out to be a fabricated news from a troll account from Baidu Tieba.

  • zxcvb

    Oh okay. What a weird rumor to make up.

    Still think they should get a veteran wing who can shoot. Nets offered Jared Dudley 2y/18M and he would have been great. Someone in that mold would be a perfect fit.

  • ProLin

    oh that cesspool.. I remember one of the tieba decided to take over FB to protest against Taiwan elections… lol.. made fools out of themselves..

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • ZcodeSportSystem.com

    I meant to say that if he can get 15ppg and 6 assist, the likelihood of him being pushed back into the bench is small.

    At this moment, Lin is viewed by many as a “stop-gap” PG..A place-holder for next year when they will be much bigger name PG on the market…This is why Nets didn’t offer Lin too much money…so that they can slide him on the bench and go after a higher name.

    At the very least, let’s say Nets can sign Wesbrook, Lin stats would be good enough to at least have some other team interested in trading for him as a starter.

    I5 and 6 would put him at top 15 PG in the league, and that’s what’s needed..

  • Kevin

    Hey Rick,

    I look forward to meeting you at Barclays Center next season! We’re very excited to have J.Lin joining our organization. How about we jump on a quick call or start an email conversation? I can go over some different options with you.

    Best,

    Kevin

    phone 718.942.9053
    KGuidette@brooklynnets.com

  • David Kim

    Nets didnt offer Crabbe yet, right??

  • CJSHYY

    No news. Base on what he did vs GSW in playoff games, I really hope Nets can get him now.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Nuggets offered $50M to Wade for 2 years. That would put the Heat in odd situation because the Heat only offered $40M. Perhaps, the Heat wouldn’t keep Wade and they would have money to sign Johnson.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The only defense against Lin is to foul him hard.

  • David Kim
  • David Kim

    He will be very good backcourt duo with Lin..

  • David Kim
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    NY Knicksroster:

    PG: Derrick Rose, Brandon Jennings
    SG: Courtney Lee
    SF: Carmelo Anthony, Justin Holiday, Mindaugas Kuzminskas
    PF: Kristaps Porzingis, Lance Thomas, Kyle O’Quinn
    C: Joakim Noah, Willy Hernangomez

    This is a team for Lin to play against. Now that’s going to be interesting.

  • CJSHYY
  • CJSHYY
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    PraY THAT Jeremy will have his teammates ready for him next season.

  • Sesshie

    A bunch of recognizable names versus Brook-Lin and some unknowns. Will they be a worthy test for the Nets?

  • DrewBear2

    That’s good, but the question is whether the free agents they want buy into the Nets’ plan. In the case of Crabbe, there’s a further question of Portland’s plan: do they still need Crabbe? If the rumors are correct and the Nets have put concrete offers on the table, it’s out of their hands right now and they should be prepared with contingency plans.

  • BobbyH

    I have full confidence in Nets FO. Their signing in FA so far has shown their intention of building a Spur-like culture. I believe they have plan B and C and D …

  • Jamie

    east is getting competitve he needs help

  • Jamie

    I like Wade a lot actually and I dont mind his flopping and dirty plays thats part of the game and hes just one step a head of everybody
    it just doent make sense for him to change teams now and he is washed up compared to what he used to be so being too greedy at this point is just unreasonable and i hate him for that

  • ProLin

    I’m sure Crabbe is fully inform of the Net’s plan already. The question is what will Blazers actually do.

  • ProLin

    Wade wants to stay. If he doesn’t he would have left already like KD. He’s just trying to get the Heats to agree to that 3rd year. This bolds well for our chances of landing TJ.

  • DrewBear2

    I agree with you. It’s just that contingency plans, by definition, are the less optimal route to their primary goals. For us as fans, it’s also going to be less fun to watch the games.

  • ProLin

    It’s a good test. IF we can’t beat this old and weak Knicks team, then we need to step up big time.

  • ProLin

    I think wade wanted another year rather than more total money. He’s 34; he knows his playing time is limited so another year is more important to him.

  • ProLin

    I trust Marks to know his talent so I would like for now to see them sign him. Even if he’s reluctant at first I’m sure the new Nets will convert him.

  • BobbyH

    You never know what you uncover under the stone. Good perls could shine if uncover.

  • Rick James

    i don’t think he would leave miami. He is more old school and faithful/loyal to the heat and heat fans. Wade is definitely trying to get paid though…mickey arison should stop being a cheap and pay the man whatever he wants to keep him happy!!

    Side bonus for us, we get TJ!

  • DrewBear2

    Top 12 sorted by points per game.

  • DrewBear2

    I don’t get the sense that the Nets picked Jeremy as their main free agency target to use him as a place-holder. They understand this is a process and it will take time to build the proper team culture. They won’t achieve that if they marginalize core players after a single season. It’s the same reason I don’t believe the persistent rumors that they want to trade Brook.

    I know you’re just using WB as an example, but I don’t think he’s the kind of leader they want for their team (even if they could even get someone like him to come to Brooklyn). Steph, CP3 & Kyrie? No chance. Lillard, Lowry, IT, Jackson, etc? Who’s available next summer that’s not a longshot? And who would fit into their culture-building plans better?

    I know it’s tough for both players and fans to avoid stat-watching. I just think it’s more important for Jeremy to fully embrace what Atkinson & Marks wants to do with the team. Do what they ask of him and the stats will follow. Jeremy picked the Nets mostly because he trusts Atkinson, so that’s what he needs to do.

  • DrewBear2

    2016 NBA Summer League is taking place right now. Few of the players participating will be invited to the Nets’ training camp, which starts in late September. I wonder when Jeremy will move to Brooklyn to start working out at the Nets’ facilities. The following is an excerpt from a 2007 article:

    “NBA training camps are the first full activity leading into the NBA season. Each team comes together for full practices. NBA training camps involve every single player on a roster, but there are also lots of players that get signed to “training camp contracts,” which in reality are simply nonguaranteed or very short term deals. Just before and possibly during training camps, lots of fringe players often get signed, only to be cut during the camp or just after it, possibly during preseason.

    NBA training camp rosters are often not set until days before training camps open. Each team has their own separate training camp, and they often take place in facilities/locations that the team never uses during other times of the year. Some teams use training camp as an opportunity to be together in a remote place. Others stick to more regular locations, around where the team is actually based.

    NBA teams can have up to 15 players signed for the regular season. But teams often bring more than 15 guys to training camp.”

    Read more at http://insidehoops.com/training-camp.shtml#BiFLfMFLUS4PoYiw.99

  • ProLin

    Wade was drafted by the Heat. HE’s 34. He will retire a Heat. The Heats knows that and low-balling him. He’s pissed but he still want to stay if he can. Not a show of good faith and loyalty by PatR.

  • psalm234

    Finally, DWade will meet with the Heat owner today.
    My prediction is he will stay with 3-yr contract so the Heat won’t match Tyler Johnson’s deal with the Nets.

    Regardless the salary controversy to steal Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA), Tyler Johnson would help JLin and the Nets to have any hope of reaching the playoff. I hope Brook-Lin and underrated teamamates in the Nets would shock the NBA when they open the season!
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/750744138493095936

  • DrewBear2

    I’d blame Arison instead of Riley. Lakers paid Kobe crazy money to end his career there because that’s what the Buss family wanted.

  • psalm234

    A Nets SBNation writer is learning more about JLin, he can see that Lin’s approach on team sacrifice for one another will fit Kenny’s PG role

    “We were willing to sacrifice, willing to play for each other.” Jeremy Lin sounds like the PG Kenny Atkinson needs
    https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/750710520865488896

  • DrewBear2

    May your predictions come true. 🙂

  • KHuang

    Hrmph.

    I don’t agree with Lin as far as the Hornets and Walker and Batum are concerned.

    I saw tons of incredibly selfish awful play out of those two, and that’s why the Hornets did not win more games and were easily bounced out of the first round by the Heat.

    I know Lin’s trying to be gracious and professional, and he genuinely feels that way. But that’s not how it played out on the court.

    Of course, Lin will have much better chemistry on the Hornets.

  • ProLin

    Then we should blame Jim Buss then, lol

  • KHuang

    I openly admit to being lukewarm about the very raw and VERY INJURY PRONE Tyler Johnson.

  • CJSHYY

    So far Nets media are all very warm & high on Lin. Really good to see this.

  • CJSHYY

    I am so tired of this…. Just give him the money.

  • CJSHYY

    I read somewhere said he likes west coast & Portland better but I really think as a NBA player that’s no need to concern too much about it. Bc you will have almost 5 months ( off season) you can stay in West Coast. Half season it’s on road games…

  • takeme2cruz

    The Heat won’t match regardless Wade will stay or not. They will not swallow the poison pill so they can keep their 3rd string backup guard.

    Reiley will easily find another un-draft similar or better than TJ in just under a mil dollars.

  • Alaingrvis
  • ProLin

    I’m surprised you are even warm, lol

  • DrewBear2

    It’s more an attitude rather than something that can be measured empirically. No one accuses Steph of selfish play even though he averages 20 FGA, but Harden is universally considered selfish with the same number of shot attempts.

    Kemba and Nic practiced and played on the starting unit and were more in sync with each other and their group for the most part. We here are mostly focused on watching Jeremy, so of course we’re sensitized to noticing when he’s being ignored (“dude, J’s wide open!”). But I don’t sense that they were chronically selfish or malicious. Some of the best highlights involved Kemba or Nic passing to Jeremy.

  • Rick James

    all I know is, the knicks vs nets game will pretty much be a new kind of rivalry…possibly even a bloodbath (alright Im exaggerating this part). Brooklyn vs Manhattan two boroughs fighting for supremacy of NYC. The rivalry between the two probably wouldn’t have gotten this bad if nets hired ANY point guard other than JLin. Going to be awesome!

  • CJSHYY
  • psalm234

    I like his work ethic, defensive hustle, and style of play that reminds me of JLin (minus the court vision)

    I trust Kenny Atkinson and Lin will be able to help him develop further

  • DrewBear2

    Any idea what kind of shoulder surgery he had a few months ago? I could only find references to a strain, no mention of a torn labrum like MKG.

  • takeme2cruz

    Highlights often mislead fans just like those using highlights to determine the 3rd string backup, injury prone guard TJ deserve $50 mil contract (average more than his starter Lin). Khuang’s comment based on watching full game after game after game etc…

  • Arsenium12 .

    via Mike Mazzeo (ESPN)

    Nets coach Kenny Atkinson on Rondae Hollis-Jefferson’s shot: “I think he’s coming along. Listen, I think shooting is a lot of confidence and a lot of the system we’ve put in. But we don’t want him be obsessed with his jump shot: we want him driving, we want him cutting, we want him playing to his strengths. But I told him, if he’s got an open jump shot, and it’s open and he’s got space, we want him to shoot it.”

  • CJSHYY
  • Sesshie

    It’s all relative. Compared to JLin’s ex-teammates including Melo, Harden, and Kobe, I guess the Hornets were better in that category.

  • Sesshie

    I will give the Nets GM and coach the benefit of the doubt on the personnel they want to bring on the team. I’m hopeful that whoever that ends up on the team will be a good fit. Maybe JLin will help his teammates unlock their potential.

  • CJSHYY
  • Rick Johnson
  • CJSHYY

    I wish Nets can start to bring in some Vet Players in specially PG. But looks like as long as Wade is still open to the market we will not move on…. smh!

  • NONONO

    It reminds me Clifford made Lin play of the bench with Roberts and let Robets play pg. They knew Lin would not be a backup next season.

  • NONONO

    Wade contributed to Heat a lot. But he is on the way down like late stage Kobe. If Bosh cannot recover, Heat could be a so so team in next two years.

  • DrewBear2

    Rivalries are good publicity. A New York rivalry would garner national media attention; add Jeremy and it goes international. Nets need to upset the Knicks (wonder what the Vegas odds will be) in that first game to really get the ball rolling.

  • KHuang

    Balance is restored

    No more Bench Force One.

  • KHuang

    Great post.

  • KHuang

    My wish list for Lin’s Nets:

    1) Bring in Jimmer Fredette on a two year guaranteed vet minimum contract, play him as the backup PG.

    2) Charlotte trades Spencer Hawes and Jeremy Lamb to the Nets. Hawes becomes the backup center along with Justin Hamilton, Lamb becomes the starting SG
    averaging about 15 ppg in barely 30 mpg. I know I’m the only Lin fan that LOVES Jeremy Lamb.

    3) I’d still ask for Tyler Hansbrough, but the Nets already have semi proven power forwards ahead of him.

  • heart

    I have a feeling that all Lin’s past coaches and almost everyone who saw Lin’s play knew in their heart that Lin is a starting caliber pg. Yet, bc of their preconceived biases and politics, they continued to pigeon-hole Lin in bench role to do all the hard work so their chosen players can get the credit. But looking forward to the coming season, HC Atkinson will give us a different story when he gives Lin the freedom to play his game!

  • Jamie

    Lamb can be a good scorer still not sure on defense though
    Hawes is pure trash trying too hard to handle the ball no toughness

  • Lin Dunn

    Has any team signed Lanston Galloway the Knicks backup PG who was released?

  • zxcvb

    Even if you believe Jimmer can play (I don’t at all), he has a well-established attitude problem with a strong sense of entitlement, poor work habits and an ego that his game can’t back up. He’s the last guy Marks would bring to the Nets, who are serious about culture and character.

    I’m fine with Hawes as a backup PF/C. I’ve soured significantly on Lamb, but he is legit talented and if Atkinson can get him to focus and play within a Lin-Lopez PnR system, then I prefer him to overpaying Crabbe.

  • Michael

    Make a switch on Porzingas and it’s oley to the hoop for Lin 😛
    PS : Beware of uppercuts.

  • grover chang

    I really like young for his skill and his character. He may seem like a bad boy but I get the feeling he is a good guy on and off the court. And Ellington was not bad. Resign him.

  • takeme2cruz

    You still can get that if you play SP4.

  • NONONO

    We would not see the Hornets’ situation again – that everyone (especially Hawes and Lamb) became pg when KW/Batum was out and BF1 was gone long before the playoffs. When everyone mind their own roles and defend their own men, Hawes, Lamb, Hans could bring BF1 to Nets.

  • zxcvb

    “I think shooting is a lot of confidence and a lot of the system we’ve put in”

    Smart guy! Lin keeps talking about improving his jumper, and he certainly can improve (even Curry improved over time). But it’s also true that Lin is 1000x better when he gets REGULAR TOUCHES (46% from 3 as a starter). It’s as much about usage and freedom as it is about form.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no

  • takeme2cruz

    It’s a wish list so you can include anyone and even yourself too. lol

  • CJSHYY
  • ProLin

    so much flirting.. just do it already Wade!

  • I am The Jason

    DWade, Rondo, and Jimmy Butler?????

  • ProLin

    sounds like a fun locker room about to happen.

  • jlim7

    Jimmer Fredette is in Denver Nuggets Summer League roster.
    Landry Fields is in Brooklyn Nets Summer League roster.

  • grover chang

    Hinrich and Ellington. Guards who could play off ball and still played defense. I did not like how bulls fans kept using hinrich as a scapegoat. He was a hard-working player for them. Hinrich could also play pg.

    Someone mentioned budinger. The guy could shoot. I also would love to see speights if possible. Big, clutch, and has playoff experience. Of course could play off ball too.

  • DrewBear2
  • takeme2cruz

    Nets are stuck with $120 mil for career bench players.

  • Jamie

    Johnson and Crabbe are probably gonna be better than career bench players

  • takeme2cruz

    You don’t spend 120 mil for hopeful probably.

  • Ben Johnson

    Not our money, plus they’re better than any other perimeter players on the team right now and would give JLin more weapons to work with

  • takeme2cruz

    You root for team you root for cap availability. They are bench n never proven as starter n long min and games.

  • Ben Johnson

    The new CBA is coming up, and will probably have an amnesty provision like the old CBA, so whichever overpaid RFA that doesn’t plan out between TJ and Crabbe, you can just get rid of them

  • DrewBear2

    Right. Lakers $114M Mozgov/Clarkson. Hornets $120M Batum. Grizzlies with the grand prize $247 Conley/Parsons. All sure things.

  • Ben Johnson

    Blazers are meeting with Center Festus Ezili today…hopefully they’ll make him a big offer and won’t want to match the deal that the Nets will presumably make to Crabbe 😀

    https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

  • Ben Johnson

    I still can’t fathom all that money to going to players with so many injury concerns…

  • DrewBear2

    It’s nuts, but nearly all of the owners/groups will do very well with their NBA investment over the next decade. It’s a crazy game among the rich & famous.

  • Ben Johnson

    Oh, only 3 hours and 6 minutes away from JLin officially signing his deal and ushering in a new era for the NBA 😀

  • zxcvb

    Ezeli seems unnecessary when they already have Ed Davis. Unless they plan to trade ED…

  • Alaingrvis
  • psalm234

    true.. man, we really are only waiting for DWade to stay in MIA then Blazers not to match Crabbe.

    If we’re waiting impatiently, Sean Marks would have to wait nervously for 3 days after TJ and/or Crabbe sign the offer tomorow on July 7. In the meantime, the salary cap is locked so they can’t make any other offer without any remaining cap.

    That’s why Markel Brown was released to get an additional $1+M in cap. Perhaps they want to pursue another FA

  • zxcvb

    Might not be right away. I know this is wishful thinking, but if the Nets strike out on TJ and Crabbe, they’ll be way short of the cap floor with all the pricey free agents gone.

    Marks might up Lin’s salary a bit like Mavs did for Wes Matthews last year. Same goes for Booker and Hamilton.

  • Ben Johnson

    hmm, very good point

  • Alaingrvis

    Id be shocked if he leaves. chicago isn’t that good. And he is getting older. Lol stranger things have happened

  • DrewBear2

    You think he’s in Brooklyn to sign or at home with his agent?

  • psalm234

    hm, perhaps the Nets pretended to want Crabbe from POR but all along they want Ed Davis (per JLin’s tip) LOL

    “You match Crabbe? ok, maybe you want to move Ed Davis in return?” 🙂

  • Ben Johnson

    What a Diva, just play ball with Arison, and he’ll hook you up for the rest of your life and will build you a nice statue outside the Arena

  • psalm234

    only if Wade is really angry at Pat Riley.
    Wade just wants to get his sacrifice when signing LeBron and Bosh to be rewarded

  • zxcvb

    In the past couple years, they’ve done “electronic” signatures via iPad. So he doesn’t need the physical papers anymore.

  • Alaingrvis

    davis is more of a PF while ezeili is a center. I think thats the main reason given the lost lopez to the knicks last year

  • DrewBear2

    I thought TJ already signed the offer sheet and the deadline is tomorrow.

  • Alaingrvis

    Not really. Wade win a lot of ways has been like brady. Taking far lass for years now. Just want an extra year but miami is saying no.

  • Ben Johnson

    Deadline is 7/10, 3 days after the moratorium ends

  • zxcvb

    “We’ll take Davis off your hands so you can sign Crabbe and Ezeli…”

  • DrewBear2

    Cool. Thanks for the info.

  • Alaingrvis

    To be fair he has always taken less then his value far less. If melo could get what he did imagine what wade could do.

  • psalm234

    no, we’re still in moratorium until July 7, which is the 1st day FAs can sign sheet

    Then for UFAs, teams like the Heat and Blazers has 3 days until July 10 to decide to match the offer for their players

  • zxcvb

    I think ED is more a center now. He doesn’t have an outside jumper or the ability to face-up and attack the rim. I also think this Hamilton guy will end up playing PF unless the Nets add a PF who can shoot.

  • Ben Johnson

    Wade deserves it, but it would really mess up the future of the team…the system is broke, there should be no max salary, just a basic hard salary cap

  • psalm234

    “yes, we’re helping you to sign Crabbe & Ezeli by taking Ed Davis so throw us a 2nd-round pick too :)”

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. IMO the NBA scouting system is so inept its effectively a lobby group and the player’s agencies are mostly marketing outfits and lobbyist. Its no surprise that potential starters are everywhere in the league but the FOs and inept coaches are too dependent on these setups to give the opportunity to this talents to play to their full potential. The biased media and ghost bloggers also play a part in pushing false narratives. Haha

  • Ben Johnson

    Hamilton actually looks pretty quick, I think he may excel as a stretch 4

  • DrewBear2

    Got it.

  • Alaingrvis

    If wade leave would they pay 50 million to tj. I don’t see how that gets them closer to the playoff. I don’t think wade leaving means they will match nets offer. Also wade want an extra 10 million. Wade of all people cant get it but 50 mil for johnson. Thats insulting.

  • Ben Johnson

    The NBA is seriously the most screwed up run sports entity…it basically only exists to sell shoes and line the pockets of sport talent agencies

  • zxcvb

    Yeah he moves well and he’s very polished offensively (3pt, midrange, cuts, putbacks). And he already had a stint in the NBA and didn’t look overwhelmed at all. Played well for Minny in 2014-15.

    Probably wanted a decent contract and big minutes in Europe instead of being 3rd string for a loser.

  • Alaingrvis
  • Alaingrvis

    During the playoffs wasn’t the rookie starting over Tj. Had great defense. From what i saw in the playoffs josh richer son is much better. May start anyways if wade leaves

  • zxcvb

    If TJ is desired by other teams, they can trade him for assets later. Otherwise they lose him for nothing. With Wade gone, TJ will get more minutes and touches and they can increase his value.

  • Jamie

    yep TJ off the bench for them is pretty nice too

  • Alaingrvis

    josh richardson I’m guessing would start.

  • zxcvb

    He would start next to Dragic since he’s a great 3pt shooter. TJ would be the backup PG/6th man. Which is the role the Nets want him for.

  • Alaingrvis

    year but 50 mill nice for the heat who already have 70 mill locked up in 2 years. Seems a bit much for the heat

  • psalm234

    [NYPost] Kenny Atkinson this morning: “We’re very happy with how things have gone so far. I like the place we’re in.”

    So they’re following the plan for a slow rebuild w/o spending carelessly.
    Maybe the only upside is JLin has to post 20pts/8asts in the 1st year to carry the load 🙂

    Atkinson understands fans can hope they wave money at Dwyane Wade or bemoan not getting Kevin Durant or Mike Conley or Al Horford. But he’d tell those fans to have faith because the Nets’ rebuild is for the long haul.

    “We’re following our plan so far. It’s a plan we stated from the beginning and we’re sticking with it,” Atkinson said. “It’s not always the big, splashy headlines. I think where we are and our stage right now, I think we’re very happy with how things have gone so far. I like the place we’re in.”

    Where they are is coming off a 21-61 mess, without control of any of their first-round picks until 2019 as they attempt to clean it up. And the stage Atkinson and general manager Sean Marks are at is doing the only thing they can: Preach patience for a slow build.

    After rescinding their $1.08 million qualifying offer to guard Markel Brown and once their four-year, $50 million offer sheet to Tyler Johnson becomes official, they’ll have $21 million in cap space. But they’ve resisted the temptation to waste money on aging Band-Aids who will be gone (or a cap drain) by the time the team has improved.

    Rather than chase high-priced vets and immediate gratification — that’s how the last regime got them in this mess — they hunted for bargains and targeted young restricted free agents. That meant getting Jeremy Lin for three years, $36 million instead of Conley for the NBA-record windfall he received. That meant agreeing to an offer sheet with Johnson, and pursuing Portland’s Allen Crabbe.

    “Yeah, I think we’re following the plan. And the plan is not always perfect. Obviously there’s going to be bumps and twists and turns. A lot of this is scenario-planning: A, B, C, D, E, F. Hopefully we don’t get to G,” said Atkinson, who lost out on targets Jared Dudley and Sergio Rodriguez. “We’re on course.”

    The course will have more bumps. Deals could not become official until 12:01 a.m. Thursday, and Miami still has three days to match the Nets’ offer sheet to Johnson. That means Brooklyn is waiting out Wade’s decision, after he reportedly met with the Bucks, Nuggets and Heat owner Micky Arison on Wednesday in New York.

    “You’ve got to be ready to adjust if things take a turn and you go in a different direction,” said Atkinson, who departs for the Las Vegas Summer League on Thursday but still has one eye firmly on free agency. “[It’s] exciting. Very exciting, very busy, a lot of moving pieces. [I’m] excited to see how this shakes out. You guys know the whole process, how complicated it is. I like our approach. We’re sticking with our values, how we talked about coming in. So I’m excited about that.”

    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750849940025274368

  • zxcvb

    Nice to hear! And it’s clear that “the plan” all started with signing Lin (their first signing, morning of July 1st). At least for the next year or two, the team will be built for a Lin-Lopez PnR attack.

  • Ben Johnson

    Yeah, but if they only win 25-30 games, then the media/haters/troll will say is “oh, JLin can put up numbers on a horrible team that just gives him the ball and runs Linsanity style offense”…but if he goes 17/8 and makes the playoffs, there will be nothing they can say, they’ll finally have to acknowledge his skills

  • Jamie

    thats the least they can do to honor Lin’s sacrifice and loyalty
    if they srtrike and still dont increase Lins salary, then I’m not gonna be supporting the Nets

  • Jamie

    well everyone is now
    so thats just the trend this off season
    cant really blame anyone

  • Acbc

    When I hear a Lin fan pull the inconsistency card as an example why we should hold back our excitement for Linsanity 2.0 this coming season. They inevitably start by citing all the low scoring games he’s had with no mention of how he impacts the defensive flow of the game. In many of his low scoring games, Lin was an impact player just the same. Perhaps the greatest centre of all time is Bill Russell of the Boston Celtic. He played one of his greatest games in a playoff without scoring many points, but his rebounding and other stats made him say afterwards that it was one of his greatest performances.

    Kyrie Irving and Love has had many of those low scoring games too but no one calls them inconsistent. They get plays set for them and put them into position to score and are given ample opportunities to look good but often don’t help impact play even if they score star stats. Impact is high character stuff that looks at team stats and helping teammates be better.

    The best way to look at Lin’s scoring inconsistency is how NFL receivers rely on QBs to set them up to shine. Even Jerry Rice would look bad if he had the limited touches Lin gets. Every time Lin has a great game, he’s had to pay for it by getting limited touches for next few to protect their “star” players. In LA, they’d allow Lin to play better at home just to please the crowds and then started to yap about how Lin was too inconsistent playing home vs away. They lied about his inconsistency to promote “anyone but Lin”. YOU CANT SCORE IF YOU DONT GET PLAYS OR TOUCHES! NFL receivers routinely complain about not getting passes thrown their way and would ask for trades if they don’t get any.

    Morey and Mchale deliberately took the ball out of Lin’s hands just as BS did in LA. They made sure that Lin was always under their thumbs with limited access to touches. Lin was made inconsistent by design and nothing else.

    WHEN LIN GETS THE BALL IN HAND AND CONTROL THE FLOW OF THE GAME, GOOD THINGS HAPPEN FOR THE TEAM. this fact is in the records, only the weak minded fans believe and listen to the propaganda from team control medias and lying coaches like Byron Scott and Mchale. All indications are that Nets will put Lin in charge of the team. I’m expecting Nets to be fighting for a playoff this year. Lin has done it with Houston and Charlette, two teams that weren’t expected to do anything and brought them to heights unseen. WHY SHOULD WE BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THE PROSPECTS FOR THIS YEAR?

  • Jamie

    Yep im hoping they dont match
    Heat dont need TJ
    Nets can really use TJ’s help

  • Jamie

    What’s taking Crabbe so long to sign the damn offer sheet
    if all he cares about is money then, the Nets are better off without him,
    Jesus what an annoying tease
    can’t the nets just walk away with Lin TJ and Crabbe

  • zxcvb

    Can’t sign any offer sheet until 12:01 EST (9:01 PST).

  • Ben Johnson

    I wish man, but their teams know they don’t have to lose them for nothing, they could always trade them in the future for other assets and picks

  • Alaingrvis

    If they do they can sign anyone with that money for 3 days. They want to see what portland does first. Its quite smart actually

  • zxcvb

    Posting this here since it affects the Nets…
    https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/750862014772371456

  • Alaingrvis
  • Alaingrvis
  • Ben Johnson

    damn, no TJ 🙁 Time to offer Crabbe 80mil

  • Alaingrvis

    The heat need to wake up now. For some reason i think its a ploy.

  • Ben Johnson

    Butler is probably gonna be royally p-ed off and want out

  • Ben Johnson

    I mean, that would be pretty underhanded to pull that ploy

  • Jamie

    i thought TJ already did

  • Alaingrvis

    I think the heat deserve it. They basically paid everyone else but Wade. Including bosh btw

  • Jamie

    ugh but TJ will be hard to move lol cuz he aint gonna be starting

  • Jamie

    I want a Mirotic for my boy
    80mil for crabbe and the rest to Lin

  • grover chang

    Raising Lin salary is nice for Lin but it is bad for the team. That would give Nets less flexibility to add a big free agent the following two years. If they don’t meet their cap floor then just give everyone a bonus. Win for the whole team.

  • Joe what do you know

    I wonder what the loyal Heat fans think about all these Wade drama…

  • Jamie

    meh they are not gonna be able to get anyone anyways if they strike out lol

  • Vintage

    Hopefully no NBA scout have watched Lin’s Laker highlight videos recently…

  • grover chang

    LOL, whose “team” is it now? Butler just got rid of one chicago native in Rose for a more famous chicago native in Wade. Will be hilarious if Wade really goes to the Bulls.

  • JLin fan from Australia
  • Alaingrvis

    back up plan if Tj is off the list.

  • Jamie

    get out at least get Mirotic

  • David Kim

    He is not bad for backup PG

  • Alaingrvis

    40 percent from 3.

  • Alaingrvis
  • CJSHYY

    Nets seems to like player from Spain??? Why not take AB instead. At least a little bit younger.

  • Alaingrvis

    colder on only getting 7 million a year. A much cheaper option

  • David Kim

    that deals help not matching Crabbe??

  • David Kim

    Nets fans want picks for that deal..

  • Joe what do you know

    I’m under the impression that if Ezili goes to POR then Crabbe’s most likely going to Nets

  • Jamie

    free agent i think

  • PPP

    that could mean ed davis is available for trade?

  • Ben Johnson

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242732/Dwyane-Wade-Agrees-To-Sign-Two-Year-$47M-With-Bulls

    It’s a done deal with Wade, 2yr/47mil to da Bulls…TJ I’m guessing will be matched by Riley

  • martan267

    THIS!! I’m with you Acbc! I get so exasperated when this BS about Lin being inconsistent is being brought up as if it’s something to do with him lacking in BB skills or mental toughness. I keep saying, “Stop this false narrative!” How can he be consistent when he is not even given consistent minutes, not inserted in the game appropriately, and then gets a mix of his role from PG (like only 20% of the time) to SG to PG/SG mix and even a darn Forward (it seems at a times). And yes, the inconsistency seems to be deliberate especially when after he has a Linsanity game, the next few games he is very limited in playing time. We even talked about here several times that “wow, what a great game! Oh darn, in the next game, he probably won’t be allowed to play as much so the FO and the HC can mitigate the Effect of the Linsanity game.”

    So frustrating! Anyway, I believe Lin will finally put to bed this false narrative about him being inconsistent, once he is finally able to actually play CONSISTENT minutes in a CONSISTENT role, and inserted in a CONSISTENT appropriate manner.

  • PPP

    they certainly will ask for a pick at least.

  • Ben Johnson

    Rondo/Wade/Butler??? Haha, that team is gonna implode!

  • 1mtoldman

    “Timeline for Miami to use cap space in the next 72 hours becomes critical. The Tyler Johnson pending offer sheet looms over the Heat.” –bobby marks

  • I am The Jason

    Miami should have paid Wade. Now we might not get TJ

  • Ben Johnson

    I hope Riley doesn’t go all crazy and offer Crabbe a deal :0

  • Ben Johnson

    https://twitter.com/HornetsGIFs/status/750867831982592000

    Brings back some recent memories 😀

  • Alaingrvis
  • Ben Johnson

    Hey, at least we know for a fact that Jose knows his place in the NBA, as a backup role player…who knows about TJ with his CAA connections

  • DrewBear2

    My guess is the salary floor penalty applies only for the season and doesn’t affect subsequent years. Anyone know if they divvy up the money evenly between players or by some % or seniority metric?

    “To ensure the players get their share of the basketball-related income, teams are required to spend 90 percent of the salary cap each year. Failing to do so means the team would have to spread the amount needed to reach the 90 percent salary floor to the players on the team.”

    http://fansided.com/2016/07/01/nba-free-agency-salary-cap-salary-floor/

  • Elon Musk

    what do you mean by picks?

  • Elon Musk

    what does it mean when nets wants that pick by getting jose from bulls?

  • 1mtoldman

    “Enough room to match the #Nets offer to Tyler Johnson. But Riley is all about that “cap flexibility,” so will he?” –brian lewis (new york post).

  • Alaingrvis

    If 7 million makes them lose wade i doubt he matches it. Unless they hit the reset button

  • Alaingrvis
  • 1mtoldman

    to be willing to take calderon off the bulls hands they want a draft pick thrown in

  • 1mtoldman

    jason leiser palm beach post projects heat will match johnson offer and he will be a starter next year. (thats just one mans opinion of course, but a local)

    “Jason Lieser is the Post’s Miami Heat reporter. He has covered sports in Chicago, New Orleans and now South Florida”

  • CJSHYY

    So he will replace Wade in starting lineup?

  • 1mtoldman
  • Ben Johnson

    The happiest man in this whole Wade saga…Goran Dragic

  • DrewBear2

    Bulls need to dump Calderon’s $7.7M salary to make room for Wade. Nets want a pick to take the salary, since they might not have room for him either depending on what’s happening with Crabbe.

  • Jamie

    yuuup
    but he sucks so doesnt matter

  • DrewBear2

    I agree. You know the 2nd unit will be in good hands with him, while TJ might still need seasoning. Also doesn’t hurt to have a older veteran presence among all the youngsters.

  • Ben Johnson

    Lakers just traded for Calderon, he’s not coming to the Nets

  • Joe what do you know

    Dunleavy going to Cavs…

  • CJSHYY

    Of course. I think TJ just like JC. Bc Wade doesn’t like Dragic so TJ got his chance to play more… Right now Dragic sure will be so happy finally can play free on court.

  • I am The Jason
  • David Kim

    Adrian Wojnarowski
    Adrian Wojnarowski – Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA

    Chicago has traded guard Jose Calderon to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell @TheVertical.
    7:15 PM – 6 Jul 2016
    1,376 RETWEETS679 LIKES

  • CJSHYY

    What? We can’t even get this? smh!

  • zxcvb

    1) Get Aaron Brooks, Kris Humphries and Gerald Green to fill out roster.

    2) Increase Lin’s salary by 2-3M/year and Booker and Hamilton’s by 1M/year to reach the cap floor.

    3) Call it summer and save cap for 2017 once Lin & Atkinson make Brooklyn respectable again.

  • DrewBear2

    So in about 1.5 hrs we should see a bunch of tweets about offer sheets being signed?

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way. Better hurry up. I hope we can get Crabbe.

  • Ben Johnson

    Meh, sign Crabbe to an 80mil/deal (the SGs next free agency stink), and sign DMo for cheap

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i like 2 & 3

  • zxcvb

    20M/year for Crabbe??!!! Not only is that a ginormous overpay for a guy who’s not even better than Bogdanovic (only younger). But that kind of contract might be the only thing that can wreck this team’s chemistry!

  • Alaingrvis
  • zxcvb

    Gordon Hayward is an UFA next summer. I’m thinking way too far ahead here, but that’s the kind of “star” that I’d love to have alongside Lin. I guess staying in Utah is his 1st option, but as we’ve seen this summer, anything can happen.

  • Arsenium12 .

    The Players Association makes the decision. The following quote is from the Collective Bargaining Agreement …

    In the event that a Team’s Team Salary for a Salary Cap Year as of the start of the Team’s last Regular Season game of that Salary Cap Year is less than the applicable Minimum Team Salary for that Salary Cap Year, the NBA shall cause such Team to make payments equal to the shortfall (to be disbursed to the players on such Team pro rata or in accordance with such other formula as may be reasonably determined by the Players Association). The Players Association shall provide the NBA with its proposed distribution of any such shortfall within thirty (30) days after the completion of the Audit Report for such Salary Cap Year. The NBA shall cause the Team to make the required payments, less all amounts required to be withheld be any governmental authority, within ten (10) business days after receipt of the proposed distribution from the Players Association in accordance with the preceding sentence.

    See : http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/07/08/salary-floor/

  • Alaingrvis

    bad day for the nets. Couldn’t get colderon nor tj

  • Alaingrvis
  • zxcvb

    Not a big deal though. Atkinson will run his offense through Lin and Lopez, so the other guys just need to be scrappy role players. Already have several and can add more. Not big names, but solid enough for Lin/Lopez.

  • Alaingrvis

    Well move on. Tj was a bet that could of failed.

  • Alaingrvis

    imdissapointed but more cap space I’m moving on

  • zxcvb

    True. I hope they don’t sign Crabbe for some crazy contract. His shooting is great, but Nets already have Bogdanovic and he won’t cost 18-20M!

  • Briiick

    Sometimes less is more, GSW wouldn’t have gotten this far had they not traded their previous short SG.

  • Alaingrvis

    We have a lot of money. Still some pieces on the board.

  • DrewBear2

    Nothing’s actually happened yet, right?
    1. TJ gets offer sheets (in just over an hour)
    2. Miami has 3 days to match or decline

  • zxcvb

    Exactly. More freedom for Lin and others to grow. Less expectation/pressure to succeed.

  • Jamie

    well at this point might as well go all in for it

  • Morlock O

    TJ is a hit or miss… not wise to spend poison pill on that… 19mill on 3rd year will kill nets…

  • Alaingrvis

    true i don’t get the logic of not paying wad 47 but tj 50

  • Jamie

    man just give him 6-6-24-24might as well at this point

  • zxcvb

    I don’t think he’s worth going all in for. You could argue that for Horford but Crabbe?

  • 1mtoldman

    correct

  • CJSHYY

    Portland starts to talk to Festus Ezeli so maybe we will have good chance to get Crabbe.

  • Morlock O

    Don’t worry, I didn’t like to Calderon option anyway… he will make the locker room very troublesome… remember Lin hit the game winning 3 on his face… he might try and injure lin during practice…

  • 1mtoldman

    i still like kirkpatrick who no one is paying any attention to. check his numbers after he came to nets last year and got playing time.

  • Jamie

    well yah but the Nets are desperate

  • sws94

    And that’s an easy offense to defend. For Lin to get breathing room he needs to have other offensive weapons that he can distribute the ball to. And he needs another ball handler to relieve him, or it’s traps, traps, get the ball out of Lin hands and a lot of frustration watching the Nets next season.

  • Jamie

    no he would never
    he is a super nice guy

  • blueCypher

    Starting to get worried about the Nets roster ….

  • CJSHYY
  • Jamie

    so…whos still left…

  • Alaingrvis

    7 years ago

  • I am The Jason

    A 2009 tweet

  • Ben Johnson

    Um, Wade isn’t gonna feel like a winner when he has to share the ball with Butler and Rondo!

  • CJSHYY
  • blueCypher

    Damn damn damn …. who would be another option

  • Ben Johnson

    What the heck is up with all the weird leaks regarding the Nets targeted free agents!!!

  • CJSHYY

    Will Del.

  • CJSHYY

    AB.

  • zxcvb

    Because Brooklyn has tons of capspace and none of their own picks till 2019, agents and GMs are using them as leverage. Spreading false reports of “interest” to push for the deals they want.

    Rondo’s agent kept trying to show Nets wanted him…busted. Nets wanted Lin all along. Now Chicago used a false Nets rumor to scare Lakers into taking Jose without any assets!

  • zxcvb

    Hey, I wanted Tyler Johnson even before he was rumored! Just saying it’s not a big blow to lose. Atkinson is a smart coach and Lin excels at raising the game of others.

    Bogdanovic has a lot of unused talents as a ballhandler/passer. Hamilton could be a major steal. And a guy like Brooks is a great backup/6th man in a 3-guard lineup.

  • Lefon Jang

    Rondo is ok. He’s not a ball hog. He’ll feed Wade.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah he could match Crabbe’s %s next to a PG like Lin.

  • Lefon Jang

    That’s exactly it. For the first year it’s best for Lin to have the ultimate freedom to operate without much interference. The net would have to rely on him. They may bring couple of pieces in for the second year. And the third year, Lin is a max contract.

  • Alaingrvis

    ! good thing from wade to chicago is miami got worse and chicago not much better. Lol I’m an optimist. Easier for nets to the playoffs

  • sws94

    Need to fill in that spot. And get someone else to that can do some of what Crabbe does. Maybe Europlayers if possible?

    Brooks is small, but Lin and Brooks can play well together. He doesn’t have the D that TJ would give the team.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! Just hope Marks to get some good Vet ASAP to help Lin.

  • Alaingrvis

    a ton of money left

  • CJSHYY

    In Heat, Wade is the one who’s in charge the ball not Dragic so Rondo maybe needs to learn CnS now. LOL!

  • vincent

    can trades still be made after the 7th? how was james harden able to be traded so late to the rockets after the preseason back in 2012-13 season

  • Alaingrvis

    yup

  • Bulldog

    Now Dragic is relieved. Good move for Heats, but more difficult to get Tyler Johnson for Nets. The Bulls will be in a storm in the locker room and in chaos on the court.

  • psalm234

    plus technically, if the Nets couldn’t find other FAs, Lin and his teammates could get a raise to reach the floor of the cap 😀
    https://twitter.com/_bk_chino/status/750886567229677571

  • casual bb fan

    Yup. The Nets just need some decent high character vet to help nurture the impressionable youths. Haha

  • Alaingrvis

    Im sure they’ll gets a bunch of low value free agents. but a raise would be nice

  • CJSHYY
  • Bulldog

    The Nets needs to hit the salary floor anyway. Don’t be stingy. Get Crabbe with 80m.

  • zxcvb

    Useful Free Agent Tracker. You can scroll down and see all the remaining FAs left:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4pbxqi/2016_nba_free_agent_tracker/?st=iqbrh6s8&sh=c7243057

  • DrewBear2

    25 minutes to go. Seems to me there’s a higher probability TJ signs a $50/4-year sheet than Crabbe signs a sheet from the Nets. Then the waiting goes on.

  • Ben Johnson

    HAHAHAHA…I am LOVIN’ this free agency year, best ever!

  • DrewBear2

    This list is going to change drastically in 22 minutes.

  • Joe what do you know

    Certainly very entertaining if not crazy…

  • zxcvb

    It’s only updated daily, but for anyone wondering, “Who else is out there?” It’s a complete list.

  • CJSHYY

    Ya! This year really had more big move than last season. Never thought Wade will leave Heat?

  • DrewBear2

    My mistake. I didn’t scroll down far enough. Good list. 🙂

  • zxcvb

    If Heat are going to match, then it’s best they saved everyone’s time and signed TJ directly. I don’t think the Nets want to waste 3 days for a contract they know will be matched.

  • zxcvb

    Yeah for some reason, I can’t find another organized listing. Even Hoopshype only has “top FAs” at each position and ESPN is not updated daily.

  • Ben Johnson

    Lots of Nets fans are saying they want to offer contracts to the Blazers restricted FAs SF/PF Harkless and Crabbe, and make them choose which FA they want to let go

  • blueCypher

    Yup, I think this is reasonable and can be arranged.

  • DrewBear2

    But what’s in it for the Heat? Maybe they want to delay the Nets in order to make other moves.

  • zxcvb

    Lock him down at a fair price right away so they can move onto next steps.

  • zxcvb

    Harkless can’t drive, shoot, rebound, pass or block shots…not sure what he’s still doing in the NBA.

  • Ben Johnson

    I don’t like the idea, I don’t know why a lot of them want him…

  • zxcvb

    Probably the same fans who wanted Rondo over Lin.

  • Ben Johnson

    Barbosa only got a 2yr/8mil dollar deal from the Suns??? Wow, what the heck??

  • CJSHYY

    Why we missed all these good deal?

  • DrewBear2

    Still a decent raise from $1.5M/1-year and not bad for a guy going on 34 yrs. of age.

  • Maknusia

    others just need to be scrappy?! lol then we’ll have a scrappy team

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. All these are good deals just because Lin can be had for a song last year and this year Lin is still a steal at 12M per year. Haha

  • casual bb fan

    I am of tje same opinion , you ‘hit the nail on the head’ right there on such fans, and probably they are either confirmation biased or paid ghost bloggers of other players agencies. Haha cheers.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO the Nets young players have the potential and upside to develop into decent players. Most importantly they are all high character guys and the good leadership from BrookLin, Nets is ready for the playoff this year. Haha cheers

  • casual bb fan

    Yup. Ellis was a ballhog in GSW system. He is just a very ordinary player without the ball just like what Harden would be and both have no defence. Haha cheers.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO most probably all the youngsters will be having career stats year with Lin as their quarter back. Haha

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. The Nets are not desperate. It may be better to develop the current players and rookies and see what happens down the road. Haha cheers

  • CJSHYY
  • Joe what do you know

    What does he mean by “more cap friendly version”? Isn’t the whole idea of RFA being that home team needs to match the exact or better offer by the other team?

  • casual bb fan

    Yeah. IMO it’s not advisable for Nets to sign any player to a max or near max contract which may let the said player to undeservingly feel like a star or entitled. No star for the Nets with high character guys only and teamwork and chemistry will be ensured. The Nets will be the trial blazer to change the culture of the NBA where lobbyists and coddled ‘stars’ will not feel at home anymore. Haha cheers.

  • Ben Johnson

    Not signing an offer after you’ve verbally agreed to the offer sheet is a bush league move

  • CJSHYY
  • zxcvb

    It’s actually a honorable move if Heat are going to match. Don’t waste the Nets time. Tell them up front so they can go after other FAs. Otherwise 12.5M in cap room is tied up for up to 72hrs.

  • Ben Johnson

    Just saw that, darn you Riley!!!!!!

  • zxcvb

    Nets offered poison pill contract: 5.6, 5.6, 19, 20. But the Heat would prefer 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 since they have room now with Wade gone. Nice even cap hit instead of huge jump.

  • Ben Johnson

    Whatever, Tyler is a luxury, but this team needs a solid SG who is an elite shooter and can play some D…Crabbe is that man, and with Atkinson and JLin’s mentorship, he’ll become an above average starter, a better version of JJ Redick

  • Lin Dunn

    If Heat is offering 12.5 per yr, TJ will take. He will receive more money up front. You don’t know the future whether 3 yrs later, he will be hit with an injury that ends career.

  • Joe what do you know

    I figured that much out but isn’t the RFA offer matching means you’ll have to match the same contract structure as well?

  • Lin Dunn

    In it for the Heat is they need to fill the SG spot.

  • zxcvb

    If the Heat match the Nets offer sheet, then their cap hit will be 5.6, 5.6, 19, 20 over the 4 years. But the Nets cap hit would be 12.5 each year if they got TJ.

    If the Heat want a 12.5 cap hit, they have to structure a contract where he gets paid 12.5 each year. Can’t just match the poison pill offer sheet.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    Bad news losing tyler… plan B is to max out crabbe. if portland matches, then so be it. nets have to make salary floor regardless…. worst case scenario is lin gets no help and another wasted season….

  • CJSHYY

    I really want Nets to get some Vet players now.

  • Lin Dunn

    Not too many vet players FA are left

  • zxcvb

    Not a wasted season at all. Lin is starting for a good coach who trusts him — huge victory already.

    1) For Lin fans, the worst case scenario is Lin putting up big stats for a bad team. Whatever. That’ll still establish him as a legit quality starting PG and with Lin’s global popularity, he’d likely start in the ASG.

    2) Even with the current roster, Lin can make the playoffs. That’s Lin’s specialty — getting his teammates involved and overachieving (like he did beating the Cavs and Spurs this season). Lin-Lopez PnR, Bogdanovic, Kilpatrick shooting. Booker’s dunks and boards. Hamilton could be a real find. And Nets will add other role players yet.

  • Lin Dunn

    Even with Crabb and TJ joining their chance of making the playoff is 50/50 IMO. The Nets will get more FAs

  • zxcvb

    Disagree, but like I said, Lin’s primary goal this season is to establish himself as a quality starting PG. And he’s going to do that as long as he stays healthy. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

  • Lin Dunn

    Lets agree that Lin will establish himself as a quality starting PG. I don’t care about Nets making playoffs the first yr. I care more about Lin’s STAT.

  • zxcvb

    Agree! I know it’s selfish, but we’ve all waited too long for this fair chance. So I’m good either way.

    Also, Lin doing well can only help the Nets. He’s not a Rondo or Jennings just collecting empty stats for himself while the team suffers as a direct result.

  • Ben Johnson

    True on both accounts…with the lack of established talent on the team, there’s no reason why the JLin-Brook PnR shouldn’t be run on 90% of all half court sets, which would result in no less than an 18/8 season for JLin…with those numbers, he’s pretty much a lock for starting PG with the all the votes he’d get, and the other players would have a weak argument that he didn’t deserve it, since stats trump all (though in JLin’s case, they’ll probably find some excuse to rip on his selection)

  • FreetheMind

    Pretty sure money is guaranteed in the NBA whether TJ gets hurt or not. Of course, it also depends on TJ’s financial situation. He will go for the bigger payday upfront so things are in Miami’s favor.

  • zxcvb

    Exactly. The attacks on Lin will never end, but at least he’ll have a chance to show how wrong they are.

  • Lin Dunn

    So how come Nets can get rid of Jack with 500 thousand?

  • Joe what do you know

    Well the answer to what I’m asking is whether if NBA has rulings regarding how a team are supposed to match their RFA offers. I thought the current ruling means the team with RFA is supposed to match not only the total amount and length of the contract offered to their RFA but also the contract structure (ie poison pill etc)….
    I wanted to know whether if that is the case…

  • FreetheMind

    Because Jack has a clause in his contract that Nets can buy him out at $500K after so many years. Nets simply exercised that clause. It was done basically as a team option, like Lin has a player option in year 3. Team can choose to exercise the right to keep the player or let him go for an amount or nothing, depending on the clause in the contract.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    stats without wins are meaningless… nobody cares about losing teams. if he were voted into the allstar game, he’d be RIDICULED even worse. they’d say he puts up empty stats, and that his stats dont lead to winning. lin deserves better….at this point im scared, very scared….

  • Hope

    Nets will make the playoff this year. Lin is that good.

  • zxcvb

    Yes. For RFAs, you match the same contract structure in terms of the $$$ amount (5.6, 5.6, 19, 20). However, the cap hit is different for each team. For the Heat, their cap hit is the actual salary paid, but for the Nets, their cap hit is the average salary (12.5). Strange policy but that’s how it works!

  • zxcvb

    1) I personally don’t believe the Nets would be losing big if Lin plays well.
    2) Never stopped Kyrie/Liliard/Melo from being called a star. Stats talk. Everyone cares about that.

  • FreetheMind

    Lin needs couple more pieces. Nets needs a decent SG and a stretch 4 for Lin. I hope Booker can be that guy. He is somewhat like Ed Davis so that should help. Right now they need a good SG and a backup PG for Lin. It is possible one of the guys on the summer league can be that backup PG. Nets might not have any choice other than dipping into the summer league team.

  • FreetheMind

    One way Nets can get the cap space down if they lose both Crabbe and TJ is to increase Lin’s year one pay. They can still keep the cap big for year 2 so they can go after other big FAs.

  • casual bb fan

    Best post of the day. Keep it up bro. Haha cheers

  • Spot

    I personally am not disappointed on losing Johnson who would’ve been selfish.

    I am high on Levert, the rookie. If he stays healthy he would be great from the bench.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    im not so sure lin CAN score a lot if he has no help. he’ll get doubled every night and the defense will key in on him.

    kyrie for a long time was the prototypical stats but no wins guy. this perception changed only when lebron came back. lin, who already gets a lot of hate, will get even more if he gets voted in….

  • PETE B

    is miami matching Tyler J?

  • zxcvb

    I’m sure because we’ve already seen it! Look at the Knicks during Linsanity. Look at the Lakers when Lin was allowed to play his game (which was about 10 games all year). Look at the mediocre Hornets when Kemba or Batum was out.

    Make no mistake about Kyrie. People still called Kyrie a superstar talent because of his stats. He was “overrated” but still a thousand times ahead of a winner like Derek Fisher or even Mike Conley in most people’s eyes.

  • InfiniteWisdom

    kyrie was 1st overall pick. lin starting in front of him, a reigning nba champ pg, would cause all sorts of chaos. every other article would talk about online votes and votes from “overseas” which they mean china. this happened with yao, and it would happen a helluva lot more with lin…

    the only way this wont happen is if lin is leading a winning team. then you cant say anything. if he puts up numbers on a bad team, couting votes from china will be the talk all over twitter and espn….

  • InfiniteWisdom

    wade ruined the hornets playoff run, now he ruined the nets off season… god i hate him even more now….

  • Joe what do you know

    I see. Thanks for the explanation.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    no, clifford and batum ruined the hornets playoff run. and now because wade decided to sign with the Bulls, the Nets could very well dodged a very expensive bullet they’re trying to sign to play backup

  • CJSHYY
  • Morlock O

    Cool

  • SeaKing33

    The more I look at that $50M…the less appealing TJ gets…same with Crabbe. Forget it lets just see what Jlin can do without these two guys and like someone mentioned…1st year is to just get into play-offs and I am confident they can do that with the current roster…

  • psalm234

    So now Miami has to be willing to swallow the poison pill.
    It sounds like Miami might not match after all.
    TJ must’ve wanted to join the Nets or Miami low-balled him on the ‘friendlier’ cap

    @NetsDaily That ship has sailed. Miami now has to match according to Nets offer sheet.
    https://twitter.com/NetsDaily/status/750940585620480000

  • Elon Musk

    so, did heat match or what?

  • PETE B

    The heat are gonna make us wait 3 days after being “served”

  • PETE B

    Because there were multiple offers on the table and even one that was more than that, but he had to choose what was best for him. So he felt like the Nets was the best choice.”

    According to multiple sources, the Kings’ offer was slightly higher.

  • BB Fan

    Stay calm people. We must faith in Jeremy’s leadership and elite play-making abilities. Even if the Nets cant get any “preferred” players this summer, JLin7 and his teammates, whoever they are, will definitely make a deep playoffs run. So we will see more players willing to join the Nets and be legit championship contenders. o/

  • hchao

    I think Miami tried to convince TJ not to sign and instead to consider Miami’s non-poison-pill version. Obviously that effort failed, so I think now it’s unlikely Miami will match.

  • casual bb fan

    IMO If the NBA didnt rig voting Lin would have been an all star in his 1st year in Houston even then he got more vote that Harden.
    Anyways if the coaches selected him as the reserve he stated that he wouldn’t accept it since he didn’t have the stats to support as he was marginalised in Houston. Anyways IMO the voting was rigged by the NBA. Haha cheers

  • casual bb fan

    Can someone advice If TJ signed offer of Nets can he go for a less favourable offer from Miami? Haha cheers.

  • hchao

    Lets not forget the head coach himself is a master of transforming mediocre players to better players, and making mediocre players play like star players is LIN’s specialty. Perhaps those factors have been taken into account for those two contracts.

  • takeme2cruz

    The Heat must be in suicide mode to take the poison pill.

  • Singapore BB Fan

    Is it Lin’s Effect that swing TJ to sign with Nets??

    In interviews conducted before the Wade move, Johnson’s mother , Jennifer Johnson, and 16-year-old brother, Logan, spoke about how thrilled and emotional he was when he agreed to the Nets’ offer sheet over the weekend.

    “We’re very humble and he was pretty emotional, feeling pretty sick.,” she said. “You know, just like what do you do? Because there were multiple offers on the table and even one that was more than that, but he had to choose what was best for him. So he felt like the Nets was the best choice.”

  • Joe what do you know

    I heard people saying it’s mostly because he wants to play for Kenny Atkinson… But apparently it’s all rumours…

    I didn’t realise Atkinson is THAT famous…

  • Brewkowski

    Playing time.

  • spiderman

    To the contrary, NBA is loaded with so-called “superstars” who put up meaningless empty stats, but are worshipped.

  • zxcvb

    When he agreed to the offer sheet, Wade was staying in Miami so he wouldn’t play much next year. But according to a NetsDaily source, Brooklyn wants him to be the backup PG and 6th man — lots more minutes.

    As for signing the offer sheet tonight, it’s 50M guaranteed! Why risk it? If he waits, Marks might withdraw the offer. Riley might low-ball him. He might hurt his knee during a morning workout. Just take the money ASAP.

  • joyce ward

    Just a little side note: I really feel bad for Dwade and how the Heat is treating him, but did he not learn from Lebron on how Riley rolls? It is amazing to me that these athletes are stunned when the rug is pulled from under them. Dwade in a state of shock right now…..Well welcome to Lin’s world……….just sayin……

  • xeroid

    That was the reason Knicks declined Lin’s offer sheet, it was 5, 5, 15 for 3 years, Rockets got cap of 8.3 for 3 years while they paid Lin only 5 and 5, and Lakers paid the last 15.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Who has been the best free-agent pickup in terms of money and fit?
    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-nba-free-agency-best-deals-biggest-surprises-and-most-baffling-moves/
    Ananth Pandian thinks it’s the deal of Jeremy Lin with Brooklyn Nets.

  • CJSHYY

    I think it’s money & more playing time. I really want Nets to get either Crabbe or TJ bc don’t want all the teams just target Lin on court only. What Happens to Crabbe? Why no news on him w Nets at all? I really want Nets to get him more than TJ.

  • NONONO

    Nets got TJ!

  • David Kim

    Miami didnt match??

  • NONONO
  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Now it’s up to Miami to match it.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The Heat has a capspace of $23M. They could match if they want to. The poison pill makes it more difficult when TJ’s salary blossoms to $19M/year in the third and fourth year.

  • SeaKing33

    …lol I thought it was official

  • Sesshie

    That’s just a little taste. At least there’s another team waiting in the wings that wants him for the salary and role that he demands.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Miami has really lost many of their key players: Deng, Green, Wade, Joe Johnson. Stoudemire might leave too,.About 1/3 of the team.

  • CJSHYY

    Green? I thought he’s still free?

  • DanCohen

    no.. don’t over think it’s all lin. which we are all bias about.. but keeping a level headed you will see that the coach is important too.

  • SeaKing33

    I always liked Lin and Stoudemire on the court together, would be nice.

  • DanCohen

    Even though Lin’s stats as a starter and in control is way up there with the elite, I still wonder whether whether he can sustain that 18points and 10asists stats with 82 games of it as a starter. It’s one thing when you start intermittently, but it’s another when you start constantly every game for 35 minutes. PER 36 is not an exact measurement either. I guess that is what many ppl or gm out there thinks..besides him being aisan.. because I have that concern…plus many bench player become bench players since they don’t have the chance. Until they show they can play as a starter for a while, that is when others might think about them as a starter role. Those coaches and gms all count linsanity period as a period when he wasn’t scouted and ppl didn’t take him seriously enough so to them, they don’t care about that. They care about how he is as a player after linsanity without the hype and in hornets he shows that. That is the reason why he is getting offers now.

    So when he does kill it as a starter as in consistently starting, then all perception will think of him as a starter. (except haters)That might be one reason why TJ wants to sign with the nets because of big playing time. If you get playing time, it can also let other gm and coaches see how you play in 30+ minutes which is a starter minutes.

    But even with that concern, I think lin now knows that he can 1) sustain in the nba which he doubt at first (and don’t argue with me.. in an interview he wasn’t wondering about that himself during linsanity). 2) play long minutes now.

    Now, he wants to see how far he can go because he knows that he can sustain and play long minutes now , plus the playoff experience helps. So I’m wondering how his stats are like as a starter with REAL minutes.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Now why wouldn’t anyone say that TJ is making Steve Curry’s money at his 2nd year.
    Look Lin is getting his contract at his 6th year. Why wouldn’t they say TJ is making Curry’s money now? Double Standard at its worst!

  • SeaKing33

    22 pt / 9 ast / 3 stl : my 2016 Prediction

  • CJSHYY

    It’s. Plus they just tried to use Lin to get more attention. smh!

  • Alaingrvis

    every free agent is making curry money.

  • Guest

    We should askCNN for clarification

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Antonio Davis simply picks on Jeremy Lin, the only Asian American in NBA.

  • DanCohen

    zamm… that is too much..

    I say 18ppg and 10 apg and 5 reb and 2 stls and 1 TO

    Even that I think might be a bit high.. because ONLY 2 PLAYERS in the nba ever averages that before..and you

    are saying 22 and 9!!!???
    But I keep saying.. mind over matter.. we all think
    18ppg and 10 apg and 5 reb and 2 stls and 1 TO for lin with 82 games
    next year

    he will get that.

    Hey, we all think he was going to the nets? no? so it was mind over matter to make it happen…but mind over matter have to have realistic limits… else we all say 50/30/15/5/0

  • BobbyH

    Good post and fair analysis. One thing for sure, his assist number will increase a lot. Lin is smart enough to know how to control his games in a long season with 82 games.

    This season will be a test for Lin to prove if Linsanity is a fluke.

  • SeaKing33

    Mark my words, it’ll happen

  • DanCohen

    you got a highlighter.

  • Chris B.

    Steve Nash highest scoring average was 18.8 PPG and his highest assist average was 11.6. If Jeremy has 22/9/3, that would be better a season than Nash ever had as a player for one season. Jeremy would be the MVP of the league. You are speaking out of emotion rather than reality.

  • Jamie

    If they weren’t desperate, they wouldn’t be throwing all that money at bench players.

  • Jamie

    14-17p/6a/1.5s/2.3TOs is a more realistic goal depending on who they will get

  • casual bb fan

    IMO. Your posting is very biased towards Lin, sort of confirmation biases as usual. Many players can’t even get Lin stats despite being coddled and are not discounted like Lin whenever they have good stretches of games no where near what Lin can perform. Over the years Lin has always performed well in offence when given the opportunity to start when the so called stars were out injured etc. Even if not apparent in the stats, he has impacted the game in defence and other advanced stats. I wonder why you always turn up to post negatively on a Lin fan site. Haha cheers.

  • Chris B.

    But I also think Jeremy can have a big impact on the Nets even though his stats wouldn’t show it. Jeremy is very unselfish. I think he just want to win.

  • Jamie

    20m for a 34yo Wade is really not that bad

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    Portland is going to make an offer to Festus Ezeli which means less cap space for them. They are less likely to keep Allenn Crabbe.

  • Chris B.

    For me, I think will more likely be 16-18p/8a/1.5s/3.0TOs. Remember he already got 6a playing with Harden the first year.

  • SeaKing33

    But that is Steve Nash, I think if given the chance (which he’s finally given), he’ll shine. Linsanity in 2012 what Insane for a reason. I’ll come back at the end of the season to this post and formally apologize for my irrational emotions if it doesn’t happen =)

  • CJSHYY

    How come no any news on Lin from Nets? Press conference?….

  • DanCohen

    hahaha..because I’m a realist and a devils advocate.

    After years of doing deals, you seen enough to know and be real as oppose to when I first started as a teen and have high hopes and excitment of everything. I learn to be real even when it’s good.. so that the result exceeds my expectation, but I’m always prepping for the other not as rosy or as smooth side so I don’t go nuts due to disappointment..

    You know those hope or ‘positive thinking’ which all MLM opportunites preaches? They don’t work. They are to battle big disappointment and to also to motivate you to continue to be their downlines. Real business use positive thinking in a different way. They keep it real… just like in life.

    That is what I’m seeing here and there. Yes.. it’s exciting that he got offers (and yes I did say at least 1 starting offer before here), Yes, he has a chance to show what he can do so have to cherish the opportunity. Lin thinks he himself is astarter..like we all do. But what is his statss? can he get 18 and 10 as shown when he was a starter intermittently… even he is not sure..but he knows he is capable of starting. But we and him will not know what stats he will get.

  • Steppen03

    Darn Right!
    22-25pt & 8ast is “not too much” to fathom. Again, I’m asking something that Lin hadn’t already asked of himself. He will not be going in there with a mindset “not ” to score and take over games if indeed he’s the leader of the team. Once again, he will be playing within the offense and under control but that doesn’t mean he will not have a chance to be super aggressive. He’s a starter now. He will have a chance to score big every night. And the Nets needs him to be just that. He’s no Rondo or Rubio. His game will always be the same. What’s at stake – a chance to prove that he’s a starter material “all over again,” and get wins. The Nets is no super team – they will need “every” ounce of JL7 to get them far… Not just scoring but leadership that you can’t buy.

  • Chris B.

    Ok. Apology already accepted. Just waiting for you to formally apologize this same time next year. 🙂

  • DrewBear2

    Atkinson’s busy with summer league & Marks with free agency. Besides, it’s too early to build up buzz for next season.

  • Jamie

    8apg is pretty high Lin has to initiate offense on every possession
    also dont think the players on the roster right now are good enough

  • DanCohen

    no, it’s not ,…it’s not high if your teammates don’t have butterfingers.

  • Chris B.

    Nets currently have no playmakers. Assists have to come from somewhere. I doubts the Nets will average less than 10 assists per game as a team.

  • Arsenium12 .

    This trade is now official.
    __________

    https://twitter.com/MazzESPN/status/751053923650248704

  • psalm234

    Perhaps they would wait until the dust settles after TJ and/or Crabbe signing and 3-day matching deadline on Sat?

    My best-case scenario is the Nets would be generous to improve Lin’s salary number if there is any money left 🙂

  • CJSHYY

    I like this…”..to see what he can do when he’s responsible for a team not just be a back up….”
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/750956193154101248

  • CJSHYY

    Every team all have the same schedule like Nets.

  • DrewBear2

    Very few basketball fans know TJ; I didn’t until last week. Lin’s name is famous globally. These commentators just are trying to draw attention to themselves.

  • CJSHYY

    I think they already agreed to give him more on that bonuses.

  • Chris B.

    Totally agree. Does these names ring a bell? Asik, Hawes, Kaminsky, Kelly. Now they have Booker, McCullough, Brook.

  • psalm234

    Nice article on TJ and Lin on Mercury News

    “It’s amazing,” Jennifer Johnson (TJ’s mom) said. “Two undrafted guys from 15 minutes apart in schools. It’s pretty darn awesome.”

    “I just know that at this stage of his career, he wants the opportunity to be a starting point guard and to see what he can do when he’s responsible for a team and not just be a backup,” said Peter Diepenbrock, the boys basketball coach at Paly when Lin led the Vikings to a state title as a senior in 2006. “So he’s real excited and he’s got a coach that knows him and has coached him, so a lot of trust there. And that’s really important.

    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/751076077695410177
    https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/750956193154101248

  • DanCohen

    rondola will have a fit if he played with those players you mentioned above.. as oppose to garnett and pierce.. his assists will drop below his average.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    I think I make a mistake.

  • DanCohen

    one caveat is that nash say he could’ve just hit another 3 and will get to 20 points average .. but he say it’s not just shooting for selfish deeds or soemthing like that… he said that to lin when he was teaching lin how to use the offhand when they were with lakers.

  • SeaKing33

    It’s on

  • casual bb fan

    Hahaha. “After years of doing deals” so you revealed your kindself as an agent or agent rep and come to a Lin fans site to post stats numbers/expectation in an unrealistic manner as aggregates so that if one of the numbers are not met than your kind can chastise him! I must apologise if I read you wrong. One more thing I would appreciate it if your kindself can refrain from pouring cold water on the FA excitement here with Nets getting their preferred high character players like Lin. Haha cheers.

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    LeVert is an injured rookie and Young is a productive veteran. I really doubt if the trade help the team at all.

  • DrewBear2

    I haven’t been following other teams. Have they had press conferences introducing all the free agents they signed? I’m talking “normal” players, not KD/Wade types.

    I think they want to use the publicity of introducing Jeremy to Brooklyn in the best way possible. Right now is not a good time. It would get drowned out by free agency.

  • Jamie

    Brook is more of an iso player
    Booker is not a good scorer
    McCullough is still a rookie

  • Kwok Wai Lai

    The roster is not finalized.

  • Jamie

    ugh 8.7-3-2.2 still gets 50m
    still doesnt sit well with me how thats more than what Lin is getting
    crazy FA

  • cash bb fan

    Great observations and post. Haha cheers.

  • Jamie

    not many ppl average 8+apg these days

  • DrewBear2

    They needed salary cap space and Thad didn’t fit their “high-character” profile.

  • Jamie

    That’s the lease I would expect from them
    Lin took a pay cut for them to go after other players
    if they fail to do so, thats the only right thing to do
    otherwise I’m not so sure about this team anymore

  • CJSHYY

    At least some of them already said welcome from the tweet… Anyway, Not sure Lin signed it or not yet….

  • Chris B.

    Huh? It’s still count as an assist if Jeremy gives him the pass down low to score whether it’s iso or not.

  • CJSHYY

    Nets GM prefer young players maybe bc they are in rebuild mode….

  • Jamie

    damn they both from palo alto?

  • Jamie

    Lopez likes to initiate his own offense and post up
    you dont get assists from post up
    for the others if they do score sure Lin gets the assist but thats still a pretty big IF

  • CJSHYY

    This GM is new so he still needs more time …. Coach is nice guy & I am sure he will needs Lin’s help a lot.

  • DanCohen

    but there is no money or things at stake..so it’s easy to say it’s on.. you need something to risk.

  • CJSHYY

    No, TJ is from Mountain View. Saint Francis High School is a private high school.

  • Jamie

    yah but show of some respect is also nice

  • Sinners_Gospel

    Those are exactly my numbers too. 16-18p/8a/3TO and 33-37 wins

  • lleepar

    I don’t know if this is a tip-off that the Heats are not going to match the Nets’ offer for TJ, but they’re signing another (presumably cheaper) guard …
    https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/751078347371798528

  • KHuang

    Oh, it’s merely ANTI ASIAN RACISM like the American media always does and will always do.

  • Sinners_Gospel

    lol 1TO made me chuckle. he is going to average 3-4TO when he is averaging 10 assists. Thats his game, high risk high reward. a**/TO around 2.5-3

  • DanCohen

    No I’m not an agent.. I’m an independent. agents work for me…and it’s not just real estate.
    You ARE reading me wrong.. so your ‘apology ‘ is I guess accepted.
    And no, I’m not pouring cold water. If I am I will be like sws94… in fact worst than him.

    In fact, you can call others who have PSTD to be pouring cold water when they think TJ is starting over him which I was never scared off. When Jose was avaiable, I was even scare of Jose eating into lin minutes more because Jose is a veteran and knows how to play and coaches in general loves veterans.

    I’m starting to think you are the one who is trying to attack me first… (but don’t you start to continue) when I finally give a truthful thoughful analysis which ppl can agree as to saying sht… You might think lin is god (like few people here) and therefore whatever ppl say slightly bad is pouring cold water. But I don’t think lin is god. I say whatever I think it is and my concerns for lin. Else there is nothing to say.. if you think lin is god. He is perfect what else can you say if he is perfect. smh.

  • CJSHYY

    Feel the same way. They are new so give them more time….

  • sws94

    If Wade didn’t make those sick clutch shots late in the 4th quarter, the Hornets win game 6 and move on to play Toronto.

  • heart

    See, everyone knows Lin wants to be a starting pg and can be a great one except doubters and haters… Let’s pray that Nets find humble guys w/ talents to build around Lin.

  • KHuang

    The high flying way Caris Levert plays, he’s going to be at risk for injury throughout his entire career.

    He’ll have to learn from Linstructor how to go up and not fall awkwardly even after being hit hard in the air.

  • sws94

    If Lin gets no help, we aren’t going to like what we see IMO. The Nets aren’t a good team right now. They need both Johnson and Crabbe and then we’ll see how they do.

  • DanCohen

    haha that is my thought of his stat limits of realistic expectation…else I would say zero TO.

  • CJSHYY

    I think Lin will agree w Nets so quickly not just this starting PG position but also they will allow him to play his game. Hope to see more good players around him soon.

  • sws94

    I agree. I also don’t think Lin being a starting PG will be the smooth transition that a lot of other posters think. I think they’ll be bumps in the road. He’ll be good in the end, but we’ll see some ugly stuff about him when he struggles and I’m prepared for that.

  • DanCohen

    official signing hasn’t happen yet.

  • CJSHYY

    If so I think they will not match bc I really think Nets do overpay TJ.

  • casual bb fan

    LOL. Or if Heat didn’t complain on Lin getting foul calls and consequentially Heat got so called superstars call or non calls in the next few games. Haha cheers.

  • David Kim

    Still no news for Crabbe??

  • CJSHYY

    I want to know too. It’s so weird. Did Nets even offer him contract? Or did he sign yet????

  • Sinners_Gospel

    or if batum rested one more game, we would’ve had 4 wins in a row and done to the next round. oh i wish….

  • Sinners_Gospel

    He signed the contract. Miami has 3 days to match it.

  • sws94

    No. Lin played poorly game 6, then Kemba had a spectacular 4th quarter, and Wade made 3 pointers he shouldn’t have made and falling away at 20 degree jumpers that only a great superstar like he is makes in the clutch like that. Lin fans CAN credit other players for doing well and CAN acknowledge when Lin has a poor game.

  • DrewBear2

    That’s Tyler Johnson. No news on Allen Crabbe yet.

  • David Kim

    You mean Tyler Johnson

  • sws94

    I don’t know. He may not want to come to the Nets. Portland went to round 2 of the playoffs. Or does he want a bigger role? Then he may want to come. He may be mulling it over but it is up to Portland to match or not.

  • DanCohen

    tj’s mom’s excited about him playing with jeremy lin..
    but is tj himself excited about him playing with jeremy lin..

  • Jamie

    If he makes a few moves then Lin wont get the assist
    thats basketball 101

  • Brent Yen

    Does not matter, he will be impressed by Lin anyway

  • casual bb fan

    LOL. So you have problem with Sws94!
    I am sure nobody think Lin is god. IMO Your 2 steal 1 TO stats and mind over metal stats of 5steals 0TO.!!! etc..(I need not post further .) …. haha cheers

  • TVN

    Crabbe probably won’t sign until after they find out what Portland does with Ezeli. IMO, the Offer Sheet likely has been agreed to. It’s just a matter of timing. It’s a chess-match right now.

  • casual bb fan

    Lol. Trying early to start the ball rolling to discredit Nets FO for such mundane issues!!.purportedly on Lin fans behalf to boot!!!! Smh! Haha cheers!

  • sws94

    Very few players dislike playing with Lin. He’ll get plenty of opportunities alongside Lin.

  • SeaKing33

    ill shave my head

  • Sinners_Gospel

    i know. But cliff would’ve rolled with lin at end of games if there was no batum option who was limited even in game 6 cause of injury. kemba was left all by himself to do all the heavy lifting on offense and did great, but was exhausted on defense where miami was hurting him with pnr with dragic and wade, and thats when i saw lee a step behind wade and wade hit those jumpers. thats why i said i wished…

  • casual bb fan

    Great observations. Haha cheers

  • sws94

    Yes. Play his game, not worry about his minutes and not dealing with fluctuations in minutes. Also, he has a history with Atkinson. He has to see how far his game can go with a bigger role. As for the Nets, it’s tough. They don’t attract a lot of interest from quality players so Marks has to find the underrated ones or the good ones that he can give a bigger role to.

  • sws94

    Not the right time yet. It’ll come. And it’ll be in the NY papers and press when it does.

  • DrewBear2

    First he has to decide which offer sheet to sign; Nets are one of several rumored to want him. Unlike TJ, Crabbe is less decisive or maybe just has harder choices to make.

  • casual bb fan

    LOL. It would appears that high character guys whom can play team ball are not easy to come by. IMO the current team is ready to roll. Haha cheers

  • Sinners_Gospel

    yup its a process. Nets have a bad rep, they got to build their rep from scratch. its a clean slate now. getting to 33-37 wins this year with the limited roster will be a good beginnings for next season where big FA’s will be available.

  • FreetheMind

    Freaking amazing. I don’t live far from either. It is amazing two undrafted NBA players are from down the street.

  • DrewBear2

    If Crabbe has signed an offer sheet (we still don’t know which team he picked), why would that team want to give Portland time to sign Ezeli? Wouldn’t it serve their needs better to put pressure on the Blazers to choose between Ezeli and Crabbe? Or do they even have cap space to sign both?

  • SeaKing33

    People give Kemba and Batum too much credit. A lot of you think the Net’s won’t be .500 (a few of you)…but if you looked at Charlotte ever since Kemba got drafted, their record was pretty much the Nets record…Jlin seriously was a HUGE part of their success last year. I’m just sayin…either with good players around him or not, he’s going to make a difference with what he has. Like he had Zellar, Hawes, and Kaminsky to work with…

  • Rick Johnson

    Not sure if source reliable. This guy previously said he already agreed to Nets but later refuted by other sports writers. We’ll see if his sources are correct:

    Legion Hoops
    ‏@LegionHoops
    As Allen Crabbe gets ready to meet with teams today, source says the Nets have made him a significant offer. #CrabbeWatch
    https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/750329150641213440

  • DrewBear2

    Hornets win record in 5 seasons with Kemba (1st season he started 25 games): 7 -> 21 -> 43 -> 33 -> 48. The 33-win blip was caused by injuries to Kemba & Marv and the addition of Lance (the locker room cancer) Stephenson. Clifford entered the picture for the 43-win season.

    Nets win record past 5 seasons: 22 -> 49 -> 44 -> 38 -> 21. Notice the downward trajectory vs the generally upward trajectory of the Hornets.

    I agree Jeremy was a major part of the Hornets success last year. But there were other people involved. You can’t give Lin all the credit.

  • sws94

    We have to go with Lin’s sprit and lead. Lin always says it isn’t all about him but the collective, he always says the winning is due to his team mates and he just does his part.

    Anyway, the interesting thing is that 22 to 49 wins for the Nets. Now it is 21 to ?. Moving it up to the low to mid 30s would be significant, anything above that would be quite good.

  • Sinners_Gospel

    An increment of 12-16 wins from last year is what I envision and that will make heads turn in the league and but not us fans coz we know lin is going to lead and win games. Anything above that would be a breakout season.

  • ManuGinobilin

    POR has about 8 million in capspace right now, and three RFA (Crabbe, Leonard, Harkless). Crabbe is the best player out of the three, and has a caphold of about 2 million (Leonard and Harkless have capholds in the range of 7-8 million). All of these three’s caphold counts against Portland’s salary RIGHT NOW.

    An important note that we’ll get back to later: POR can renounce any of these capholds at any time. For example, if POR renounced Leonard’s caphold of 8 MIL, then they’d have 16 million in capspace, but in doing so, Leonard would become an Unrestricted Free Agent.

    For the Nets, the Key point is this: the moment Crabbe signs any offer sheet, (Like 17/m with the Nets), his 2 million caphold will become 17 million. So if this very second, Crabbe signed an offer sheet with the Nets, the Blazers would be 9 MILLION OVER THE CAP (8 million minus 17 million). This means that even if they renounced Leonard and Harkless, they would only get back to about 8 MIL, which would make signing Ezeli impossible, AND WOULD GUARENTEE THAT CRABBE WAS MATCHED.

    In short, Crabbe signing his offer sheet right now would guarantee that he returned to the Blazers, which I don’t think he wants, since his minutes will be restricted in Portland playing with Lillard/CJ/Evan Turner.

    The best option for Crabbe is to wait until Portland renounces one of Leonard/Harkless, and then spends their remaining 16 million capspace on Ezeli. At this point, matching a 17-20 million offer for Crabbe would be a much more bitter pill to swallow, knowing that they have to MAX CJ McCollum next off-season.

  • DanCohen

    not 5 steals.. 5 rebounds.

  • DrewBear2

    Yeah, I just noticed that big jump from the 2011-12 season to 2012-13 for the Nets. One factor was firing Avery Johnson & replacing him with P.J. Carlesimo. This was Brook’s breakout season and they traded for Joe Johnson, who became the 3rd leading scorer behind Brook & Deron Williams.

    The potential for a big jump in wins is definitely there. I’m excited for the season to start.

  • CJSHYY

    It’s true. Nets is not an attract team for lots of players now bc they were so bad last season. I bet no national TV game for them. I think Lin will try his best to bring this team to as far as they can go….

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  • DrewBear2

    You sound like you know the salary cap technicalities, so these are more questions than statements from me.

    Crabbe signs the sheet, but it’s up to the team to deliver (via email) it to Portland, right? It’s not up to Crabbe when the 3-day clock starts.

    If the team delivers the offer sheet and the Blazers go over their cap, couldn’t they release/renounce Crabbe to give them space to sign Ezeli and either Harkless or Leonard? As you said, “matching a 17-20 million offer for Crabbe would be a much more bitter pill to swallow, knowing that they have to MAX CJ McCollum next off-season.”

  • DrewBear2

    Translation? I thought salary cap was jumping again next year by $10M+ and who knows how much the year after.

  • FreetheMind

    It looks like Tyler Johnson really wants to be a Nets. I hope Miami does not match. He is ideal kind of teammate for Lin, and I think both would thrive under Atkinson.

  • ProLin

    nah, I still think Riley is in rebuild mode and 20 mill for a backup PG is a little steep. He would have to basically start TJ now or see him as the future francise PG, which I don’t think he does.

  • ProLin

    We see it over and over right? Starting unit sinks the team, second unit saves the day. W/O that second unit constantly saving the day, how many games would have been lost? I think we’ll see the moment of truth soon enough. None of their new PGs can do what Lin did.

  • Bulldog

    Pat Riley prefers established players to developing ones. Tyler Johnson didn’t have a monstrous numbers like Whitside last season, I don’t think Pat Riley will match this poison pill.

  • Bulldog

    Don’t think Pual Allen care about 30M luxury tax.

  • sws94

    I’m not seeing the squad for a big jump yet.

  • Bulldog

    M Conley’s 153M contract has justified every numbers in any players in NBA. Lin could have waited for a few days. But giving consideration of every NY media praising Lin as a bargain and thinking high in the Nets, it is still a good call from Lin.

  • sws94

    The Hornets needed Marvin, C Lee, someone to step up. If Cliff figures Lin just had an off game and didn’t play him at the end, someone else should have stepped up. I would have went with Lin regardless to have another ball-handler/scorer with Kemba and because Lin has a way of stepping up late even when he had those games.

    I think Lee’s defense was fine. It’s a case where the Hornets gave Wade the shots because he wasn’t hitting 3 pointers the whole season, but he hit them. And the 2 point fadeaway shots, he’s done that to the best. He beat the Hornets that game.

  • Bulldog

    I think he can maintain 18/8/4 easily the whole season. It’s obvious to me.

  • Rick James

    22–>49 was when they added deron williams, paul pierce, kevin garnett, brook lopez. They traded al their future picks during those 3 seasons and trashed the franchise

  • DrewBear2

    hehe…you gotta squint real hard to see it.

  • psalm234

    well, salary increase/bonus will be nice but the final measure should be how Kenny Atkinson coaches Lin and set him up for success as a starting PG.

    If that earns JLin All-Star, the salary in 2 years will take care of itself.

  • psalm234

    true, I’d love to see more about how those bonuses would work

  • DrewBear2

    Brook was drafted in 2008. DWill came 2 seasons prior. Here’s the full roster for the 49-win season. I don’t know when that big trade happened.

  • Rick James

    i knew him from before, hes actually been with the heat for a while., but yeah he’s definitely not as well known as some of the other guys. I feel bad for mozgov, getting a 64M/4yr deal but everyone bashing him. Dellavedova getting a $38M/4yr deal and also Lin. These guys are all famous and well known

  • Rick James

    riley and mickey arson are cut throat business men without any sense of loyalty to their franchise star. Honestly, their stupidity in maxing whiteside before maxing out wade was probably the last straw.

    Lakers paid kobe 24million in his final season just to go around game to game parading himself. Say what you want about lakers, but they know how to treat their franchise players. The heat organization is just pathetic!

  • DrewBear2

    Maybe, but I still don’t think “What the…? Mozgov makes more than Steph?” attracts more attention. For good or bad, Jeremy’s name is a sure way to get clicks/hits/views/whatever.

    As for the bashing, I doubt those guys give a fig about what people say. They’re laughing all the way to the bank.

  • takeme2cruz

    The question is not just over or under the cap, it’s about should the Heat shutdown window of opportunity to sign new talents just because they ate the poison pill contract for 3rd string backup TJ?

  • David Kim

    Chris Levert (SG) can shoot and pass.
    I like this guy.

    http://youtu.be/lxtrKOmHS2I

  • Hope

    Have jlin signed the contract officially?

  • CJSHYY

    Don’t know…. no any news from Nets.

  • sws94

    I hope with the s in front, not without, lol. It’ll be more entertaining, I’m just not sure about how much better the record will be than last year. I think the fun part is the life Lin injects into Barclays.

  • sws94

    They’re close to it. They need to have something competitive on the floor. Some teams in the East have gotten better, not Miami though.

  • CJSHYY
  • Briiick

    A new dynasty is born!

  • KHuang

    I absolutely do not want to criticize AtTheHive because I have so much respect for everybody at that forum, but they’re openly talking about 55 wins!

    I kinda totally doubt it, but we shall see.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Ya! I like this…. ” he’s responsible for a team…”

  • KHuang

    During the 43 win season for Walker, Josh McRoberts was essentially the point guard.

    Losing McRoberts sent the Hornets into a tail spin the next season. McRoberts WAS the entire passing system for the selfish Hornets.

  • DrewBear2

    Too bad his foot isn’t healed enough for him to join summer league.

  • sws94

    A Kyrie Irving/Kemba type of PG needs a passing PG or another type of facilitator besides him. That’s the shortcoming with Kyrie and Kemba.

  • DrewBear2

    I wasn’t watching the Hornets that season or any other season. McRoberts is listed as PF. Kemba started 72 games and averaged 17pt/6.1ast/4.2reb, while McRoberts had 8.5/4.3/4.8.

    Look, all of us here would’ve started Jeremy over Kemba if we made the decisions in Charlotte. But we don’t and I don’t get this persistent bashing of a guy who’s performed well with the opportunities he’s been given. Most of us would be pretty happy if Jeremy posted that kind of stat line this coming season.

  • Arsenium12 .
  • DrewBear2

    Doesn’t Steph have Draymond? Isn’t it better to have multiple facilitators on a team? Isn’t that why a Jeremy/Tyler backcourt might work well in the event they can’t get Crabbe?

  • Maknusia

    really?! wow….I guess any fans would have high hopes….lets see

  • DrewBear2

    Doesn’t someone here usually tweet a screenshot of Jeremy’s snaps?

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  • psalm234

    Here is the video 🙂 Cheetos celebration lol
    https://twitter.com/_bk_chino/status/751141313064669186

  • Maknusia

    finally…its sealed now 🙂

  • CJSHYY
  • freemind

    time to change profile photo 🙂

    *found these online credit to the respective owner as watermark.

  • David Kim

    I really hope Miami signs JR smith or Lance Stephenson…

    NBA free agent rumors: Miami Heat could pursue Allen Crabbe, JR Smith, Lance Stephenson to replace Dwyane Wade
    Paul Jones | Jul 07, 2016 03:28 PM EDT

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    Allen Crabbe #23 of the Portland Trail Blazers guards J.R. Smith #5 of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the second half at Quicken Loans Arena on December 8, 2015 in Cleveland, Ohio
    Allen Crabbe #23 of the Portland Trail Blazers guards J.R. Smith #5 of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the second half at Quicken Loans Arena on December 8, 2015 in Cleveland, Ohio (Photo : Jason Miller/Getty Images)

    Dwyane Wade is gone and the Miami Heat will look at potential replacement for the veteran guard either via free agency or through trades. If the Heat decide to sign a free agent to take Wade’s spot on the roster, there are still several viable options for them on the market.
    According to Sports Illustrated’s FanSided, the Heat could look at the possibility of signing Allen Crabbe, J.R. Smith or Lance Stephenson to bolster their backcourt rotation. Washington Post also linked the Heat to a possible trade for Russell Westbrook but it is highly unlikely at this point, which means they could settle for free agents.
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    Crabbe had a solid year for the Portland Trail Blazers last season, as he averaged 10.3 points and 2.7 rebounds in 81 games. The 24-year-old shooting guard is still unsigned and is testing his market value. It is widely speculated that the former California standout is looking for a $15-million deal per year.
    If Crabbe commands for such deal, the Heat will likely shift their focus on other free-agent targets, considering how conservative they are in free agency this summer. Miami let Wade go, and will likely lose Tyler Johnson, who signed a four-year, $50 million offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets.
    Smith, who has not signed a new deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers, could eventually become an option for the Heat. Aside from his ability to shoot from beyond the arc, the veteran shooting proved that he can also defend the top guards in the league.
    According to the report, Smith is a cheaper alternative if Miami cannot give into Crabbe’s asking price. However, it remains to be seen, though, whether or not the 30-year-old will actually be available on the free-agency market for long. The Cavaliers look set to offer a new deal to the 12-year veteran, who averaged 12.4 points last season.
    Meanwhile, Stephenson, who played for the Los Angeles Clippers and the Memphis Grizzlies last season, was also included on the list of possible replacements for Wade. The 25-year-old improved his market value in the second half of last season, averaging 14.2 points and 4.4 rebounds in 26 games for the Grizzlies.
    The report pointed out that Stephenson could play a big role in South Beach because of his versatility on both ends of the floor. It remains to be seen, though, how much the Heat are willing to offer to Stephenson this summer.
    Watch Crabbe’s 2015-16 season highlights with the Trail Blazers below.

    Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/139073/20160707/nba-free-agent-rumors-miami-heat-allen-crabbe-jr-smith-lance-stephenson-dwyane-wade.htm#ixzz4DktfK2jk

  • CJSHYY

    JR will stay w Cav. Lance is going back to Pacers.

  • freemind

    “When I’m gone
    When I’m gone
    You’re gonna miss me when I’m gone
    You’re gonna miss me by my hair
    You’re gonna miss me everywhere, oh
    You’re gonna miss me when I’m gone ”

    Anna Kendrick – Cups Lyrics 🙂

  • takeme2cruz

    Hornets will be back to be an almost NBA forgotten team.

  • Maknusia

    hahaha…definitely…need to find one…first

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  • psalm234

    CHA is not a long-term place for JLin but most media have been great and fair .. compared to his previous all-math-no-chemistry team.

    I wish them well .. until they meet Lin and the Nets 🙂
    Lin should know the best way to stop the Hornets; it’s just a matter of having the right personnel/teammates

  • freemind

    Lin will give them some discount 🙂

  • takeme2cruz

    I was interested and kept on reading until the end and found out it’s from yibada news.

  • CJSHYY

    Haha! Yibada is a fan side?

  • takeme2cruz

    It repeats other site opinions and prediction then called rumors or news.

  • DrewBear2

    Based on what? MKG healthy > loss of Jeremy & CLee? Plus Kemba, Nic & Marv will have to repeat their career-best seasons. They’ll be fortunate to hit 48 wins again.

  • David Kim

    haha…i agree but i have heard that he is meeting with some teams today… one of the team might be Miami…

  • DrewBear2

    hahaha…maybe he’s negotiating a deal with Pepsi (owner of the Cheetos brand). If not, he should splurge a bit. Doesn’t he like sushi?

  • David Kim

    Mike Mazzeo @MazzESPN
    Kenny Atkinson expects Caris LeVert (left foot) will be ready for training camp. Likes his length and versatility. “We got our guy.” #Nets
    11:46 AM – 7 Jul 2016

  • Lefon Jang

    Lin will shoot over Kemba’s head!

  • takeme2cruz

    Good luck to Kemba attacking the rim guarded by Lin, one of the league top in block in pg position.

  • 1mtoldman

    cap for next year has actually been revised downward not upward.

    projections beyond next year would be just guesses.

  • DrewBear2

    Yup, that’s what I understood…just guesses. Even this year’s salary cap changed from the last estimate, right? So the tweet at the top means what?

  • ProLin

    Someone needs to ask Lin – was that selfie with the little net a hint to the fans? Was this deal done way back before his Iceland vacation?

  • DrewBear2

    Nah, he’d take the 5th. It would implicate the Nets and himself.

  • sws94

    I think MKG will be put on Lin at times (if he’s actually on the floor). I can even see Marv on Lin. They’d play each other hard and then give each other a big hug after the game. Kemba on Lin means Lin just goes nuts, Kemba can’t guard Lin.

  • takeme2cruz

    If Pop had to put Kawhi on Lin, you know you’re thinking right.

  • sws94

    It’s not unusual to see a team’s best defender be put on Lin. in the playoffs, Miami was desperate. They put Whiteside, Deng and Haslem on Lin. And two of them at the same time, sometimes.

  • ProLin

    It means he’s a heats fan. 🙂

  • ProLin

    I don’t know why they just can’t see what happened during the first few playoff blowouts – starters get in a hole, Lin tried to salvage but can’t save the day. KW+Batum is not going to lead to more wins.

  • ProLin

    oh right, that dumb NBA rule, lol…

  • ProLin

    Look at what Marks has to say about Lin after the singning… Is this real life? A GM who really knows Lin that well?

    https://twitter.com/andy_vasquez/status/751159341911248897

  • Epie

    Am I dreaming? I’m just happy for Lin.

  • heart

    Lindependence Day, 7/7/2016!

  • DrewBear2

    Just watched Portland introduce Evan Turner. At ~12 min. mark he mentions looking forward to playing with Crabbe in the 2nd unit, but later the GM only mentions Dame & CJ. Earlier the coach also only mentioned Dame & CJ.
    http://www.nba.com/blazers/trail-blazers-sign-evan-turner

    I lost the link, but it sounds like Crabbe is getting offers in the $15M/year range. The disputed rumor of $70M/4-years from the Nets sounds plausible ONLY if they desperately want him. It doesn’t seem likely the Blazers would want to pay Crabbe (bench) as much as Turner (starter).

    Said Wojnarowski: “By all indications they want to keep him. They developed Allen Crabbe. He’s become a very good bench player. Will he be a starter? That remains to be seen… I would be very surprised if one way or another if Allen Crabbe is not back with the Trail Blazers and not playing for them next season.”

    So Crabbe has a decision similar to Jeremy’s: return to a playoff team as 6th man for less money or start on a team building from scratch for more money?

  • psalm234

    #7 JLin’s signing on 7/7 with Flamin’ Hot Cheetos deserves its own thread 🙂
    I found an old Feb 2015 pic of JLin as a Laker sneaking to 7-11 to buy Cheetos LOL

    I included Sean’s Marks’ high praise to JLin. Plus any complete transcripts later
    https://twitter.com/JLinPortal/status/751164222898266113

  • sws94

    Nice. However, does Lin have enough to work with. Reading the Nets boards, there are 2 big time Lin doubters. I went at it with one of the them. But, the good news is, there are Net fans that believe that the culture-building is important, and Lin is the vet to look at for that. So that’s good. We don’t know what is ahead of us, it’s exciting in a way, frightening in another. Net fans are pretty sensitive, their team has not given them much to cheer about. Lin can change that but does it result in a significant amount of winning? That’s what I think we should hope for. And I hope that Marks’s words match how Lin will be treated. Because if Lin has a series of down games, then how they treat him then will be the real test.

  • sws94

    It’s a tough decision. He’s younger than Lin by quite a bit. That may matter in a positive way for him going to the Nets.

  • DrewBear2

    Marks is not done filling the roster, so we can’t answer your first question. It sounds like they want Crabbe, but don’t want to pay what he’s asking. Would Brook-Lin-Crabbe-Bogdanovic-Booker backed up by a 2nd unit lead by TJ be enough? Lots of youngsters on the list, so lots of uncertainty.

  • Lefon Jang

    If Kemba doesn’t guard Lin who can he guard? Kemba is so small, he’s not able to guard SG.

  • ProLin

    Please don’t go to the Nets board and “go at” the Nets fans… let Lin make a fan out of them. We do not need to speak for him.

  • sws94

    There sure is. I hope Lin has incredible chemistry with hopefully Crabbe and Booker, and Lopez as well. Bogdonovic on a good day is nice, but he’s not that reliable. I look for Crabbe to knock down the 3s. But Lin will find Bogs when he’s going hopefully. What is the system like. With Lin having to handle the ball so much, will defenses try to trap him and have him give it up? And if so, is the next ball-handler competent enough? Will Lin get the ball back in those situations? How well will Atkinson adjust to defenses targeting Lin and Lopez? and on and on and on.

    The best scenario is that the team gels, wins some games, is competitive in some, and don’t get off to a 2-14 start or something like that. But it is truly impossible to know what will happen now.

    We’re at step 1. That’s Lin has the coach that we approve of and a position to lead as starting PG. But a big part of Lin is that he ignites teams to win. That’s the part of this that is the biggest question mark that won’t be answered until after a bunch of real games are played. And also, how much confidence the buzz is around Lin in that role will be in the air.

  • ProLin

    I’m sure Mama Lin’s not gonna be happy about the junk food Lin seemed to crave… LOL…

    “小豪豪啊, 夭壽喔! 啊媽媽不素跟你說過了? 你怎麼還在吃那些垃圾食物啊? 還公開給大家看喉? 啊你不素要當小朋友的榜樣嗎? “

  • BobbyH

    LOL, he has to drag the city into the remark. Well, that’s true.

  • DrewBear2

    Very tough. Stotts is a great coach who was able to handle a radical transition after losing so many key players (LaMarcus, Batum, Matthews, Lopez). Portland is a team with fairly young guys, but some have been together a while and they now have decent playoff experience.

  • sws94

    I’m fine with that. I went after one fan who a lot of other Nets fans went after. You know I’m not the type of poster that is going to go and say Lin will put up 20/12 and it is a guaranteed playoffs. I also wrote several times this is a Nets team board, not a Lin board and urged Lin fans to respect that.

  • ProLin

    alright, just be nice, sws-san. 🙂

  • ProLin

    It’s a dig at Dolan & the Knicks, no doubt… “With Lin we’re going to steal all those Knick fans, yeah.”

  • sws94

    Well, nice, I don’t know. 🙂 But I try to be balanced everywhere. Here too. Gets me in trouble everywhere as well 🙂

  • Lefon Jang

    I really don’t think there’s high expectation on Net unless they can bring in a couple of key pieces. What’s important is for the Net to rely on Lin so he can get his stats. Just look at Kevin Love when he’s with the Wolves. He was able to pad his stats coz there’s noone else. Ultimately if Lin can improve his stat and somehow make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t, his next contract is going to be huge. Show Me The MONEY!!! And please don’t tell me money can’t buy happiness…I’m sure Conley is smiling these days!

  • Lin Dunn

    Well Cuheetos is a guilty pleasure kinda addictive.

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  • Rick James

    hahahaha dont mess with us!!

  • sws94

    The part that makes it tough is the same question Lin had, go somewhere to have a bigger role on a questionable team or stay with a team that has a good chance to go back to the post-season? And being younger, I feel Crabbe has more time to be with that team while they improve. If it is 3 years, he’s 27, in his prime. Lin is 30/31 in 3 years. Big difference.

  • ProLin

    it’s good, not hot enough…

  • sws94

    Conley is really rich. But he has an established team. You’re right, Lin has a lot of work to do with the present team. But we’ll see how they play together in a few months and if Crabbe and TJ are part of it in a few days.

  • Alaingrvis

    let jeremy or the nets trademark it

  • sws94

    I don’t know, may depend on who is with Lin at the time. Maybe TJ if he’s with him. But, that’s a good point. Still in all, Kemba gives up a lot of height to Lin.

  • sws94

    Probably MKG health. When, not if but when, Batum is out for 6 games with whatever injury he’ll get, what will they do. I don’t think Sessions can provide the high-level games Lin did. Not as many, anyway.

  • ProLin

    I think he’s a goner. Might even be a smoke screen to mask Mark’s other interests. There was never a formal offer sheet made to Crabbe yet right?

  • sws94

    Yes. The old PG does everything type of offense is going the way of the dinosaur IMO.

  • Rick James

    cheetos needs to endorse jeremy now..they’re sales are going to go up lol

  • Rick James

    lin will make him flourish into a better basketball player and probably get him paid $$$

  • Rick James

    they are around the same height!! Some will say lin is much bigger but those are exaggerated claims, lin is at best 2 inches bigger

  • Jamie

    a lot of team did
    they need to overpay bench players now

  • Jamie

    it is what it is
    it all comes down to respect

  • Jamie

    Over pay him

  • psalm234

    Actually, we tried but there might also be others. I don’t know the status.
    But the goal is not to prevent the Nets from using Brook-Lin promotions.
    Besides, they probably will use a more common variation #BrookLin

    We’ll continue working with JLin to see what he’d like to do best to support him and the Brooklyn Nets.
    The thought was it’s good if JLin can make the call, not any individual 3rd parties.

  • FreetheMind

    His city statement is a dig at Dolan, who let Lin walked without any attempt to match. I hope Nets beat the crap out of those Melo Knicks.

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i think we as fans should not get involved in this kind of stuff

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    main goals for this coming season..
    1) destroy Knicks
    2) build a culture
    3) improve

  • David Kim

    Crabbe should sign contract before 12 right??

  • your son’s legendary voltaire

    i remember watching a Hornets vs Nets game on Yes Network via live streaming on their website last year for free. can we expect to see all of the Nets games on Yes Network this coming season too?

  • jlim7

    KHuang is correct. It was Josh McRoberts who was their facilitator at that time. Miami stole Josh McRoberts because of this success. Hornets thought they could replace Josh with Lance, but failed. An that was why they recruited Batum to follow the success pattern of Josh. If you don’t believe what KHuang said, check out all Hornets’ forum. Hornets’ fans said the same thing.